Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #797 Call of Duty AXES NICKMERCS For Saying PROTECT KIDS, COD BOYCOTT BEGINS w/Riley Moore

Episode Date: June 10, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, Elad, & Kellen join Riley Moore to discuss Call of Duty cutting ties with NICKMERCS, Dr Disrespect deciding to boycott Call of Duty, Target losing over $15 Billion since pride backlash, & Trump being charged with 47 felonies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Well, there certainly is a lot of political news. Donald Trump has been indicted on 37 counts. It's insane, including espionage charges. I think we have we have that story, but we do have a very big culture war story. Ladies and gentlemen, the gamers have joined the culture war, I guess, because technically they started it, but they're back. I guess it's younger generation of gamers. This is big news as far as I'm concerned.

Call of Duty has pulled, Activision has pulled a streamer named nick merckx who has millions of subscribers because he tweeted leave the little kids alone he said he stands by what he stands by what he said he appreciates everybody who has his back they pulled him and said yeah well we're going to remove your stuff because we celebrate celebrate pride here then another very big streamer dr disrespect came out and said no dice sided, sided with Nick Merckx. What we are seeing here, while it may have always been gamers were very much opposed to the creepy woke stuff, we are seeing

now high-profile personalities join in, call for boycotts of these companies and these games outright on live streams to massive waves of younger people because regular people are rising up and they're saying no more to this. So when you get a guy, and you know what are rising up and they're saying no more to this so when you get a guy and you know what they're saying they're saying that nick merck's dad

instincts kicked in because he said he just had a kid and all of a sudden it's like now he gets it this is what's starting to happen as the younger people are getting a little bit older and they're realizing what woke people are doing in their name they're starting to say no so not only are we seeing this major move in terms of a call for a boycott on a major video game, Target has reportedly lost $15 billion off their market cap. Now, we've got CNN and the likes of other companies, other media outlets saying, no, no, no, no, it's nothing to do with the boycott, despite the fact that Walmart isn't suffering. Their stock seems to be just fine. So we're going to talk about this and more. And obviously, we'll talk a bit about the political

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Right on. Good to have you back. Yeah, thanks. We got Allad El-Yahu's hanging out again. Hey, what's up, everybody? Riley, thanks so much for coming on. We have, I'm sure, a great show planned with you. My name's Allad El-Yahu. I'm a reporter here at TimCast News. Check out my work and other journalists who work here's work on Twitter at TimCastNews. Hello, everybody.

I am Phil Abante, lead singer of All That Rem that remains anti-communist and counter-revolutionary and i'm ian crossland number four uh i was on the culture war today if you guys haven't seen that yet with zach vorhees it was epic tim zach and i talked about ai for like two hours i got crazier and crazier as the conversation went on highly recommend checking that out on youtube at uh tim pools the culture war it was very fun youtube.com slash Timcast. There it is. And to my right, this beautiful man. Hey, what's up? My name is Kellen. I see a lot of times people are like, hey, who is this?

Who's this fake Serge? Well, I work behind the scenes most of the week, but on Fridays, I do live switching. Fake Serge or, you know, whatever they want. They've got all kinds of nicknames. But yeah, so that's me. It's good to be hanging out with you guys. Yeah. Let's jump into this first story from IGN.com.

Activision polls FaZe Clan streamer Nick Merckx's skin from Call of Duty following anti-LGBTQ plus tweet. Quote, we are focused on celebrating pride with our employees and our community. So first, who is this guy, FaZe? I believe i have his youtube right here he's a streamer plays video games he's got four million subscribers and what exactly did he say that got his skin pulled from this game he said they should leave little children alone that's the real issue that's leave them kids alone so uh there's a great and

powerful revelation in this tweet and what's happening. In response, Activision tweeted this, a Call of Duty on Twitter, which is an Activision game. Charlie Intel says, it appears Activision has removed the Nick Merckx bundle from the Warzone and Modern Warfare 2 store this evening. Activision has not commented on why it has been removed, but the removal of his bundle comes a day after Nick Merckx's recent comments about the LGBT plus community. Call of Duty says due to recent events, we have removed the Nick Merck's operator bundle from the Modern Warfare 2 and Warzone store.

We are focused on celebrating pride with our employees and our community. It's actually pretty amazing. Let me get right to it. Nick Merck's did not say anything anti-lgbtq he said they should leave little children alone that's the real issue let's break this down let's dissect what this uh prominent streamer with millions of followers on twitter and millions on youtube said leave kids alone if a leftist showed up to a school where they were protesting, parents were protesting these books, an Antifa person said, leave the kids alone. Is that anti or pro LGBTQ?

It's very vague. If a leftist said, leave kids alone, they would assume it was a leftist statement and say the right is targeting kids. Nick Merckx didn't say anything specific other than leave kids alone it could have been left or right wing so there's something else you can see here the fact that simply by saying leave kids alone the left got triggered angry and pulled him from this game shows they actually understand that they are targeting children with something negative. What is this? It's a response.

What's it in response to? So this Puckett account says, this happened four blocks from my Overwatch League apartment. Americans are in a sad place right now. Let people love who they love and live your own life. And it was in response to the video of the parents fighting with far leftist activists. You can see the sign here, protect trans kids. He says they should leave the little children alone that's the real issue now hold on

why is it that the immediate assumption was that this was a right wing or anti-lgbtq post i mean the sign in the video says protect trans kids wouldn't his statement be in agreement with what that sign says protect the kids, they should leave those kids alone. Yeah, I mean, they've totally exposed themselves on this, right? And the funny thing is, the hypocritical thing is, this is supposed to be like the party of choice. And that's really what this battle is about, is that parents want to be able to have the choice to have their kids opt out of the Pride Month educational program

that they have mandated every child has to go through. Now, a long time ago, when I was in school, you could opt in or opt out of sex education. Now, I'm sure as it relates to heterosexual education, I'm sure that's still the case. But apparently in Pride pride month there's no opt-out like these are the guys of choice right well no they're not actually this is about compulsion it's about control and i think it's about brainwashing the young people in this country yes i got that i saw a video of them dancing through the hallways of the elementary school like the little kids and they were like a rainbow they were like dancing through a rainbow portal or something i saw that

i thought about it when i was six and seven and like first and second grade and like what i would have felt going into that would have been very afraid like not and i maybe that sounds crude but like i don't just like i i it would have made me nervous because i didn't know what it was and everyone's screaming but like they want to, it's a chance to not have to do boring schoolwork. So everyone's in for a lot of people are into it, but like, I can see how kids would be like not comfortable,

but not saying anything about it. Cause when you're seven, what the hell can you say? And who can you say it to? Well, and this is just one event that's happening in the unified school district of Los Angeles. They've now instituted, I think it's like

five separate days of, you know, trans awareness and a day of silence and another pride month and this and this and that. If these people celebrated like the 4th of July, maybe perhaps like they celebrated this, we'd have a very different country, right? I mean, it's insane. Let me show you this. Nick Merckx responded to the backlash saying friends are created in good times but families are built through adversity appreciate all of you that have my back understand my position as a new father and recognize the love i have for all ain't no hate in this heart p and l i mean that's it i mean it's very well said. Go back down. I have three kids, right? And no one is in control of my kids except me and my wife.

That's it. They want control over everyone's kids. I mean, we've seen that debate happen over and over again. They want to have the control of shaping our child's future, their thoughts, what they're going, how they view the world. That's me. I am in control of them. I am their parent.

Not these teachers, not these activists, me and my wife. The left is motivated to affect what they call cultural hegemony. So when you have kids and you send them to what you assume are schools that are going to teach them how to be good americans how to be liberals how to be you know uh live in a in our society when you do that you make more capitalists that's what schools used to do nowadays the well and what happened was the left realized that to to break that reproduction of the society is the only way that you're going to get to a socialist united states so they go into the schools using a freerian method and they break that hegemony by teaching

children their morals and their uh you know moral the way that they want society to be. What's the Frearian method? Paulo Freire was a Portuguese Marxist, and he is the most influential in current schools. Basically, he wants to have generative issues. So the way that he wants to, or the way that his method is teach children in a way that introduces political themes to them, right? So if you're teaching math,

the Freerian method figures out a way to not only teach the math lesson or teach the math lesson and additionally teach the political aspects or teach political aspects like how many stars are on the flag how many stripes are on the flag yeah stuff like that but um so they would maybe they're talking about uh you know maybe they're talking about how much it costs to get into maybe they're talking about about money right or talking about you know using using money as a as a as an example um they would try to direct the conversation and this is just an example this is not like this is not the directed way but they would you they would try to say well maybe you're going to get everyone in the car and go to the

amusement park well there's a bunch of ways that you can make that political first of all you can talk about the car well does everyone get into everyone gets in the car but is that really good for the environment are you going how many people are going in the car is it is it bad for the environment to go to the amusement park who's been to an amusement park everybody's been you haven't been to amusement park how come you haven't been to an amusement park well you know your parents don't have the money these are all ways that you can bring up politics in what is ostensibly a math or a geography or whatever lesson and if you can teach kids, if you can bring up politics,

they call it a generative issue. It can generate questions. That's all the LGBT stuff is. When you have kids in front of a drag queen, kids are going to ask questions. Why is that person dressed like that? And then you can start talking about LGBT issues. Grooming.

Exactly. That's exactly what it is. That's why it's called grooming. Because it makes it normative yes exactly it gives it gives politically motivated people an opportunity to bring up leftist talking points and leftist politics well and to that point though part of this is as human beings we have what's called observable reality, right? So to Phil's point, I could say, Phil, I'm colorblind, but that wall looks green to me. Phil would say, well, I can see with my vision. That is a gray wall. Tim would say, that's a gray wall. As society, we can say objectively, in reality, that's a gray wall. But my perceived reality, it's green. So we're having to accept

everyone's perceived reality. If somebody says, I view myself as a woman, and we're all looking at that person saying, no. Objective reality says, no, you're not. Observable reality says you're not. But we are now having to accept their perceived reality. Do you know where that's a problem? North Korea. They are controlling what is objective and observed reality, right? They are able to control what is reality and control language. That is where we are headed on this.

That's what's happening here and it starts in the schools it's all it's all grooming in a variety of ways but but there is overt targeting of kids with sexual sexual grooming but there's also ideological grooming and it all follows exactly what you said generative issues i know i know i explained it a lot but just for the sake of context for anybody who hasn't heard i, I'll give you a very simple version. Modeling. They say, do you want to be a model? Modeling is a normal job.

Lots of people model. There are famous models. The groomers who use modeling to groom kids will say, you're a model. It's normal. Everyone does it. Then they'll say, why don't you wear this bathing suit? Then they'll say, why don't you take this piece of clothing off? They're slowly inching you towards something sexual if you want if you want to make the claim that you're just trying to educate kids it would not start with books that teach the kids how to use gay dating apps and that's what they're doing

there's a book called this is gay for those of you that don't know a teacher in illinois gave it to middle schoolers with it with it in the book there's instructions on how to use adult anonymous gay hookup apps yep like that that that is beyond just the the intro level grooming like she's out right now instructing them on these behaviors well and to your point on the introduction target right where you had this huge protest over target they're introducing bathing suits generative issues right yeah they're introducing bathing suits where kids can tuck right and they were adult bathing suits yeah adult bathing suits. Generative issues. Right? Yeah. They're introducing bathing suits where kids can tuck. Right?

Well, they were adult bathing suits. Yeah. Adult bathing suits. But, I mean, it's in a place where a family shop. Right? And then the kid's going to say, Dad, what's tucking? Yeah. What's tucking?

They're going to say, what's pride? You know, young kids that don't, you know, the first time that they're cognizant and aware and be like, Daddy, what's pride? Mommy, what's pride? Right off the bat, the whole month june has become a generative issue and if you don't want your kids to be exposed to that stuff at four five right six now you're called a bigot yes it's unacceptable every all the schools are doing it yeah it's unacceptable i think conservatives moderates anybody who's anti-woke needs to sue the schools to get the flags removed.

100%. Yes. And just say it's a political flag. It is offensive to a lot of people. That's just reality. You should not have offensive things. And if the courts deem that you can have it, then start flying the flag you want to fly. So there's that issue in Massachusetts where a kid wore a shirt that said there are two genders.

They told him to take it off. Can't wear that shirt sued over it the judge said until the until we have a resolution you still can't wear that shirt and my response is okay well then they shouldn't fly the pride flags if saying there are two genders is offensive to some the pride flag which appropriates god's covenant the rainbow should be offensive to christians and that's a protected class as well, religious belief. Therefore, it should all go. If you can't have one, you can't have the other. And that goes back to that observable reality of two genders. Like when children are born, that gender is not determined at birth.

It is observed. We observe what that child is. I want to jump to this next story from comicbook.com because the boycotts are getting crazier dr disrespect boycotts call of duty following nick murk's controversy they say following the call of duty has enjoyed an absurd level of success blah blah blah last night nick murk's skin was removed from the game etc etc we know this dr disrespect uninstalled call of duty and said he won't return until they apologize or add Nick Merckx operator bundle back into the game. For those that are just tuning in, Nick Merckx, a prominent streamer with

I think like eight million followers. No, he's got more than he's got. Six million on Twitch. He's got four million on YouTube. He's got two million on Twitter. Yep. Said leave the little children alone. That's it. So they ax him from the game. Now you've got this guy, Dr. Disrespect, who's extremely also with millions of followers saying, I won't play the game till they apologize. What we are seeing is a major shift. I don't know if Bud Light has anything to do with it, but I wonder if after everyone saw a 30% sales drop from Bud Light for doing this, two things happened. People became less afraid thinking

hey you know what if i speak out i can clearly see most people are on my side and the other thing was opportunists thought it was popular and they jumped on board but also now real quick just now you have more prominent high-profile people willing to boycott powerful brands over going in this direction yeah the bud light fiasco and boycott and success of the boycott powerful brands over going in this direction. Yeah, the Bud Light fiasco and boycott and success of the boycott globally showed people globally that you have control with social media of markets. And now they're emboldened and are willing to twist the market at will. It can go bad as well. I mean, it can go in any direction depending on what side you're on. I've always been concerned about people like organizing a mass withdrawal of money from a bank on a day. We've

been trying to crash the economy. Bradley, I wanted to ask you on this. I know you talk a lot about ESG. You mentioned Target and what's going on with Activision now. Could you explain to us what ESG is and does that play into any of this at all? Yeah, ESG does play into this actually. So Anheuser-Busch, right? Guess who one into this, actually. So Anheuser-Busch, right? Guess who one of the largest shareholders are of Anheuser-Busch? InBev. BlackRock? BlackRock. BlackRock is, and Vanguard. And so since they are some of the largest shareholders through the dollars that they manage in retirement funds and everything else, they have massive amounts of voting power there. And so what they do is push initiatives like this at board meetings because they've been able to

install their board of directors on those corporate boards of governance. And that's how we get here. And that's how decisions like this get made. In simple terms, what is ESG for people who don't understand in plain language and how does it affect this? So very short and quick, ESG, which stands for environmental social governance, what it is doing, it's forcing dollars towards ideas instead of returns, which is the opposite of the free market. Dollars should flow towards returns, not ideas. And what they are doing is coercing capital towards ideas instead of returns, and which is going to ultimately, I think, destroy the free market in this country. You know, Vanguard, State Street, and BlackRock, I noticed with almost

every public company we talk about has about 22%. The three companies combined, BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, have about 22 22 of all these public companies 22 22 of microsoft of apple and it's they never really have that much more they never really have that much less so at 22 what kind of board power can you access well i mean think about what is elon o of twitter right i mean into like 13 something like that like controlling interest or something but i mean when he uh ended up buying it uh i think the amount of stock that it took to get there. So he owns it entirely. He owns it entirely now, but the amount of 13 couldn't get him what he wanted.

Right. So he had to buy it out. Yeah. He had to buy it out. And, but that amount of leverage that they have, like each one owning 22, 22,

each one owns about 7%. Yeah. Yeah. 7%. But these guys in totality cast 25% of every vote cast on every publicly traded company in the country.

And the assets and our management that they have is larger than the GDP of the United States in a given year. So it's not just about voting though. Voting with 25% power doesn't sound like a whole lot.

I know. The bigger issue is if they went to, they have 7% of insert company, and they go and they say, we're holding about $250 million of your company. If you don't do this, I'm sorry, we're going to have to protect our clients by selling off all of this stock, which will cause a panic and a dump on your company. Oh, and they're all three coordinated in their approach. I mean, 22%, look, I mean, is a substantial amount of control given, I mean, depending on the publicly traded company that you're talking about. And it gives them a tremendous amount of leverage.

ExxonMobil was a great example. BlackRock was certainly not a majority stakeholder there, but through working through proxies who they were able to put onto the board, activist members, in 2021, they were able to put board members on there coordinating with their other ESG woke capitalist buddies. They put activist board members on there that moved and were successful in reducing oil production at ExxonMobil by 20% and increasing green energy production by 20%, which then, guess we could have used that oil production right about now, right? With gas prices. So can you, it was three companies, right? Three firms?

Yes. State Street, Vanguard, BlackRock. Okay. So who owns BlackRock? Well, BlackRock is publicly traded, right? Right. So who's got the largest stake in those companies? Let's just say BlackRock. Okay, so who owns BlackRock? Well, BlackRock is publicly traded, right? Right, so who's got the largest stake in those companies? Let's just say BlackRock. Well, yeah, I mean, Larry Fink's like one of the top guys. Well, do you want to know who the shareholders are? First, we have the Vanguard Group.

Next, we have State Street Corp. Then we have Bank of America. And there's a list of others. But I just highlight this because they own each other. Yeah. And Larry himself owns a significant amount in there as well, who's the CEO of it. Yes, but they all do own each other. And so there is, you know, and look, if I'm elected to Congress, these guys got to get, in my view, they need to get broken up.

Yeah, for sure. I'm looking at BlackRock Inc. and own five percent of its own by blackrock fund advisors yes riley for a moment i wanted to follow up on this esg stuff and um kind of play the devil's advocate's role because a lot of people are pushing for this many people are saying that free markets aren't working for everybody across our countries now nowadays and we need to start worrying about the stakeholders i.e employees or workers more than just the shareholders like the capital is coming from. How would you respond to somebody who's saying, this is really about helping workers? Yes, stakeholder capitalism is fake. That is not a real thing. Stakeholder capitalism. So when we in West Virginia, we did a restricted financial

institution list for companies that were boycotting the fossil fuel industry. And I spoke to a lot of the biggest financial institutions in the country. And the end of the day, a publicly traded company, their job is to maximize shareholder value, right? And when I talked to them, I said, well, what's stakeholder capitalism to you? And they're like, well, people that have different interests, we have communities of color, indigenous people, we have green energy interests we have uh you know communities of color indigenous people we have uh green energy we have environmentalists and this and that and i said well what about the shareholder where they fit in they're like well they're one of the stakeholders let me just kind of real quick just one second to insert this pull this up according to yahoo

finance the top institutional stakeholder of vanguard is blackrock it is you are right it should be broken up yeah anyway anyway you're not sorry the follow-up was going to be that like oftentimes that because it's uh this is what people would argue that when it's just the shareholders in charge some companies get gutted out and it doesn't help the workers and some people are just looking to benefit on the back end stock side finance side of it so that that's kind of yeah i mean the, the shareholder capitalism, I mean, is not helping the employees. Sure, so exactly.

The stakeholder capitalism, the idea of it is supposedly, although the devil's in the details and it doesn't actually, but I misspoke there. So in terms of shareholders, some of these guys do get some type of stock option and blah, blah, blah, and some of this. The share or the stakeholder stakeholder version of that. It's not helping the employees either.

I mean, this isn't helping. Like, so at Exxon Mobil's board, it's not a bunch of employees that said, like, we want to reduce oil production. So we're working less. No, this is pushed by BlackRock and then Engine One, which was a former employee of BlackRock, who started their own company and were able to get onto that board to help facilitate bringing these leftists onto the board to try to destroy Exxon Mobile from the inside out. I mean, all this does is essentially redefine, and this is where it gets slippery, and this is by design, what risk is, right? What risk is. How do you define risk? Well, they define risk by not being diverse enough. They define risk by global climate change.

What they need to define risk is by the very simple definitions, what are called pecuniary factors of material financial risk and return. They're going to end up destroying people's retirement funds. I think the idea here is that they're arguing to end up destroying people's retirement funds i guess my the i think the idea here is that they're arguing that their version of stakeholder capitalism is going to work to employ um it's going to work to help the average employee i believe free markets actually help the workers more than what they're saying with stakeholder capital and esg i just want to understand you don't think this is actually helping the workers then no this isn't helping the workers at all because that's what they're arguing that this is for them no because you have larry fink at the top of this thing

right you know over there black rock they all own each other and they're all in coordination do you think anybody in these publicly traded companies have any vote or any say in this top down larry fink has made very clear he was of course at at the World Economic Forum just recently talking to Aaron Sorkin and saying, we are going to force behaviors. We're going to force behaviors. That is what we are going to do. We're going to force behaviors. And he has said, capitalism, in his view, this stakeholder capitalism, has the ability to essentially control people's behavior, right? Has the ability to shape the world, is what he said, essentially. I got a correction.

That last stock I showed wasn't Vanguard. It was a different company called American Vanguard. And they're confusing. And it's actually very difficult to find who are the largest shareholders of Vanguard, which is different. But I will pull it up. So Larry Fink says it has the ability to shape society. But what if we don't want the same shape of society that Larry Fink does?

I want to interject on that. The idea that we should be shaping society, every time that's been tried in human history, it's ended with piles and piles of dead bodies. Yes. If you listen to Marx, he talked about new socialist man, that man is not ready for the socialist system. You have to remake man. Nietzsche did the same thing when he talked about the uber man the uber mensch the overman he believed that without god man had to come up with his own new morality and normal man us would not understand the overman's morality and the overman isn't in any position or isn't obligated to explain to us what they're trying to do is nothing new like the idea that we can reshape the world

to prevent climate change which i i mean there's a lot of things that i have problems that i have with the arguments for climate change um but the effort to remake humanity always ends with piles of dead bodies the nazis did it the communists did it more than once pol pot two million people died in cambodia that was 20 of all of the people in cambodia there was eight million people in cambodia before pol pot they killed two million people mao tried to change mal believed that the sparrows were caught were were a problem and they weren't communist so they were trying they were eating the seed and so he told all the people in china kill the sparrows don't let the sparrows land and what happened was because the sparrows were not there to eat the bugs the bugs ate all the crops and there was a famine and

millions of people died when you try to affect the whole world when you try to change mankind humans always screw it up and it always ends in piles and piles and piles of dead bodies this esg stuff is aimed at affecting climate change you talk about the stuff that was going on in i think it was the dutch farmers that were having the problem that's because they wanted to they wanted to limit how much they could produce they want to limit how much you can use fossil fuels all of our fertilizer is fossil fuel base it's all petrochemicals yes if you don't have fertilizers then you're going to have famines millions and million if if they are successful with the in getting control of basically the markets global markets there will be millions and millions and millions and millions of people

probably a billion people that will die of famine this is not hyperbolic either all you have to do is look at the 19th or at the look at the 20th century and see the death tolls that have that were that were a result of governments trying to reshape human nature. I want to real quick, just, there's no shareholders of Vanguard. Vanguard says they're the only investment management company owned by its investors. Basically means the people who put their money in it, they're quote unquote the owners, but someone still runs it. Right. And to Phil's point on, you, if the listening audience is curious,

Nietzsche, go look at Will to Power. That's a book that he wrote. It's a terrible book. But look, it's very interesting because that is kind of where we are right now. But to his point, in Ireland, they're telling them that they're going to have to cull, that means kill, all of their cattle to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from cows. I mean, this is how they've lived there for centuries, for centuries, right? I mean, so what is that going to do to the island of Ireland, the Republic of Ireland,

right? And at the end of the day, we have this collusion as it relates to esg in between corporate power and left-wing ideology so it's this unholy merger of corporate power and left-wing ideology that you've seen before let's jump to this story we got this from the daily mail targets market cap slumps by 15 billion amid backlash over tuck friendly swimsuits analysts say retail giant is hemorrhaging customers to Walmart. Oh, no. Now, all that stuff we're talking about, I'm just going to sit back

and say we're winning. Yes. Yeah. You hate to see it. Oh, no. You'll love to see it. Regular people, we saw parents rising up

saying, get this stuff away from my kids. We're seeing gamers who have long been in the culture where, in fact, gamers started the culture

war back with Gamergate now still being very active and now taking center stage once again. now we have the bud light effect target coals north face these companies are getting slammed by people who are just saying i'm fed up when did the target boycott begin middle of may it was on may 21st when it things just started to plummet and yeah it was like may 17th or something. Two and a half weeks ago. Wow. People are just tired of it.

Yeah. And the great thing is, is that right now the free market does still work, right? We're watching that. We're watching that as it relates to Target. But in a not too distant future, if we don't continue to push back against this. And look, I think we are starting to chip away at this ESG issue. We are. Vanguard has dropped out of the net zero asset managers alliance. Now, I think they're still doing it. They're still involved in it, but they're starting to hedge. You're seeing

people start to hedge. And these folks are going to have to learn their lesson in free market economics. Guess who shops at Target? Not your woke liberal elites. They're driving Subarus to Whole Foods, right? Riley, so I wanted to follow up with you. You're running for a very important in the second congressional district here in West Virginia. I know ESG has been a big part of your campaign so far. Are there any other big issues that you're especially concerned about? Yeah, certainly. Obviously, we've done a lot in the state treasurer's office, which I'm in currently on ESG. But some of the other big ones is China is something that we're going to have to contend with as a country and moving forward. I mean, the idea that we're still making pharmaceuticals over there, I think,

is hugely problematic. They're going to be one of the biggest threats, I think, in the near and long-term future for us. But domestically, where I'm focused, and I run what's called the Hope Scholarship here in West Virginia, it's an educational savings account. We must, and underline this, we must eliminate the Department of Education. It has to go. Wow. It has to go. That's a big proclamation right there. No, the Department of Education must be eliminated. If you look at when Jimmy Carter

instituted that to where we are now, we used to be number one in education in the world, and where we are now, it is not working. And so we need to move that money back to the states and then take a portion of that money to create educational savings accounts all around the country because not as many states are as free as West Virginia but every American child whether in California or New York needs to have educational opportunity and choice so that's going to be a big issue as well that I'm going to work on. I wanted to follow up with you there's a very contentious Republican presidential primary going on I'm not sure if you heard What do you think of the primary so far? I have heard. I've heard a little bit about that. I have endorsed President Trump. And so that is certainly who I'm supporting.

Can I follow up with you on that? I talked a lot about this. I talked about it with Seamus yesterday. I see that you were endorsed by the West Virginia for life. Yes. In a lot of Trump statements, he actually sounds less pro-life than Ron DeSantis does. I think Ron DeSantis was trying to push six weeks bans while Trump puts out tweets blaming the abortion issue for Republicans losing in the midterms. So how do you square, you know, supporting, endorsing Trump and being so pro-life when there are other more pro-life people in the field? Yeah. You know, I've seen some of those statements. I can't say I'm necessarily happy with that.

In West Virginia, we passed a ban, and it's zero weeks in West Virginia. So obviously... When was that? That was in the last session. It passed? Oh, so this is January. Yeah. Wow.

West Virginia always gets ignored when these things happen. Yeah, so that's a law in West Virginia. There are some exemptions in it. Rape, incest, life of mother. But yep. So that's what happened in West Virginia. I don't even understand the incest one though. Like I understand it's bad.

Don't get me wrong. I think it shouldn't happen. When it comes to the issue of rape that i certainly understand for for exceptions and it's a horrible thing still but i don't i don't understand the conservative argument on why incest yeah i don't i don't really understand that one either um like if the baby's not viable and can't survive there's not a question of exceptions it's an issue of like well the baby can't survive if the incest results in deformity now again obviously incest should not be happening right but i just don't understand what the conservative argument is why we give that an exception also

like how often is that happening like i don't what i've heard from conservatives is that it's it's it's meant to refer to child abuse right you know like parents yeah and i guess at the end of the day in like rape still covered by that like that's why i just don't understand i mean it's a eugenic argument it's a eugenics argument that that incest results in abnormality and i'm like i get that but wouldn't the conservative position like i'm i'm i'm more pro-choice than probably you guys i think i don't know about a lot or whatever i'm more appreciative yeah 14 weeks 15 but so i just don't understand the conservative argument that's all yeah i don't i don get that. I have another question for you. So you come from a political family.

Your grandfather was, he served in the House reps for a decade. Then he was also the governor here in West Virginia for a decade. Your aunt is currently serving in West Virginia as the junior senator, Ms. Shelley Morcapito. How would you respond to somebody who says, we've seen enough nepotism in our country and government already, and that you undoubtedly do benefit from the family name, your aunt still keeps her, she has a hyphenated last name to still keep that Moore name. How would you respond to somebody that you're benefiting from your family name and, you know, not necessarily your merit? Yeah, look, it's a great question. I don't want anybody to vote for me because of my name. I want them to vote for Riley.

And it is a fair point that people make on that. And I wouldn't argue for a minute. But look, I'm not running on my name. I'm running on my record. And look, I got a very conservative record. And I think it stands for itself. And I think it stands on its own. Don't vote for me because my last name I I you know and if that's an issue for you I totally understand I

just take a look at my record I don't I don't really care like Jeb didn't make it Jeb was trash but part of why they get some of some of that bump initially is a result of the last name same with Kennedy I think a lot of Kennedy support just comes from the last name same with the Bush same with the clintons i mean but ryan's pretty based yeah ryan paul yeah i don't think i would have had the opportunity though had it not been for his father and i'm not knocking your credentials but the benefit from your grandfather was very influential but and your aunt is still very influential let me just say does does ron have any other kids as rand have any siblings i don't know. If there was like a... A third?

Rand at Paul and she was running, I would be like, show me no more. Well, he's the third one in the family. Like, Ron, Paul's children, I would vote for in a heartbeat. Like, anybody who fell for... Any apple that fell from that tree

gets my vote. But isn't that nepotism then? You're voting them because... Well, nepotism is favoritism. I'm half kidding. I'm half kidding. You could argue that someone that is related to someone else is the most qualified

person for the job. In those situations, I don't consider it favoritism and therefore not nepotism. What is a nepotism? Voting for someone because they're a father. That's not nepotism. Because nepotism, it means that you get someone a job because they're related. Nepotism is the practice

among those with power influence of favoring relatives. Yeah, but that means that's... Right, I don't have any power influence. Riley's not appointed. Yeah, I'm not appointed. I think you undoubtedly benefit from the name, but the follow-up would be

the Thanksgiving dinners must be interesting. I don't know. Are you going to get the endorsement from your aunt? I might be in trouble if I don't. Did she endorse you? I don't... Yeah, I mean,. Did she endorse you? I don't. Yeah. I mean, yeah, she supports what I do.

She's supporting what I'm running for. She's the junior senator in West Virginia. Oh, I thought you were talking about Mary Tyler. She is Shelley Moore Capito. We're not fans. I know you're not. And look. Why aren't you a fan?

Because she signed on to red flag laws and then lied about it. What do you think of that? Look, I don't support red flag laws. And look, we what do you think of that look i don't support red flag laws and and look we're we're related she's my aunt a lover but you know doesn't mean we're gonna agree on everything right so it's i don't support i don't i don't support any restrictions on the second amendment whatsoever we don't need to do yes we don't need to do anything new as it relates to second amendment yes we Yes, we do. We need to repeal. Oh, yes.

We have to repeal. I'm talking about moving forward on any type of restrictions whatsoever. Hey, look, we've been winning on 2A across the... One of us. One of us. One of us. If you look at the maps of gun rights, it's just been victory after victory after victory. I got to be honest.

I think people, they hear us complain about bad things and they get blackpilled and they're like oh tim's blackpilled and he says and i'm like look man just because i'm saying like hey thing over here is really bad does not mean the totality of things are moving in a positive way that's why i often try to say like look i know it's getting really really bad but my vision really is the end result is going to be awesome stuff happening yes like we we the reason we are in a conflict culturally with like the targets the bud lights the anheuser-busch or whatever is because we are now standing up and pushing back when you get sick you are already infected that's that's pain you're feeling is

fighting back against it so so the stuff we're going through now means we have engaged and we are seeing victory after victory after victory so i'm feeling pretty good i think it could get bad especially with the trump indictments and all that stuff it is getting bad yeah but i think it's that we're seeing when when when someone is drowning and they can't breathe they start thrashing around as violently as possible and they say if you're trying to rescue them you've got to approach them from behind and lift them up. Otherwise they'll drag you down. The machine is in a death rattle. It is gurgling and shaking as it, it ends itself.

It's, it's struggling. So I see, I see the sun rising. I think we're heading in a good direction, but it doesn't mean there's going to be some hardships along the way. We got to sail through that storm. Well,

first indictment, what do you think the indictments against Trump? You want to do indictment one or two? Let's start with two. Let's, let's, let's do this. Let me, let me up the uh the the current story on this one from politico trump haphazardly stashed military secrets throughout his home indictment says prosecutors charged trump with 37 felonies including 31 counts under the espionage act of willful retention of classified records 37 felonies i mean this is this is breakdown of

political and social order in the united states and in how many they have in new york i can't remember how many was that seven yeah something like that but you know the timing on this is so interesting right it's literally the day that the Republicans in Congress announced that they have Biden dead to rights on the Burisma bribe deal. Same exact day. And we knew it the whole time.

Yeah. Remarkable moment on this show. I'd like to give a shout out to our friend Hunter Avalon when I brought up that Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the loans. And he goes, that never happened. And I was like, that's on video. I pulled up the Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the loans. And he goes, that never happened.

And I was like, that's on video. I pulled the video and I'm like, there's the video of it happening. And it's remarkable to me how many people are willing to opine on the Ukraine conflict without having done the research into the Burisma scandal,

the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Gazprom, et cetera. We've been talking about this for some time. I went through Ukrainian, Russian, British, French, and US news reports tracking down what was going on. I went through Wikipedia, which is, I know not the best, but I'm trying to connect the dots. And the dots are pretty clear. The guy who was running Burisma, you got a former CIA guy on the board. You got Hunter Biden on the board. It is clear that there is something nefarious going on. When,

when Biden came out and said, you know, we want to fire the prosecutor because he wasn't good. And then he gets fired and they put someone good in lies. The CEO of Burisma was, was, had fled the country when the, and the prosecutor had about a dozen or more. This is according to Matt Tybee,

open investigations into my Cola's Lachefsky and Burisma. When the prosecutor got fired those those investigations go away zlachevsky returns to the country he was a ceo lucheski he's the founder i think he was ceo he's the founder yeah when uh when trump then starts asking questions what's going on flees the country again yeah yet yet but so so when biden's intervention resulted in the guy coming back. Right. Nonsense.

It is clear as day. And so that drops the exact same day as this. Not to mention, how many boxes does Biden have next to his Corvette in his garage? I mean, like, what the hell are we talking about here? I mean, you know, this is so obviously political and this Department of Justice has been so politically motivated now for so many years. I mean, we've seen it. I mean, how many investigations into Trump, right? Oh, Russia collusion, fake, totally fake. Everybody knows that it's fake now, right? And so now here we are on this one as well. I hope everybody knows that it's fake if it's fake, because I don't I have a feeling that 70 million people have no idea. I think I think you're right about that. But I bet everybody in this room knows it's fake. So I believe it's

fake. Teflon Don, every many people have taken shots at him. He's gone through many like impeachments and whatnot. I can't even remember all the scandals. But it seems as though they're saying there's like a smoking gun here where there's this transcript in the indictment where it's saying that he's talking to a staffer about declassifying when he's not able to. Have you seen this stuff? And do you think this will be the one that gets him or?

Let me just real quick. Go ahead, Tim. Hey, you want to buy a bridge from me? If it's cheap enough, I don't know. Do you have a deal for me? Yeah. Yeah. Do I think this one's going to stick? I don't. I don't think it Do you have a deal for me? Yeah. Yeah. Do I think this one's going to stick?

I don't. I don't think it's going to stick. And I would say in the psyche and the conscious of the American people out here who are not kind of like brainwashed into thinking that Trump colluded with Russia and all these other things, I don't think they're going to believe this either. I mean, how many of these things are going to keep coming up that they're going to try to get him on? To answer your question, in New York, he's been charged with 34 felony counts. Yeah, 34 felony counts in New York, and nothing came of that.

He's the first former president to be criminally indicted, as I understand. Many people say this will escalate with a tit-for-tat once a Republican is elected. Do you want to see different former democrats um indicted on things well i'm sure they could find this abysmal stuff with joe biden but would you like to see democratic uh former presidents also um searched through and possibly i mean not in any political manner but look if they have broken the law then yes i mean then yes look i mean people need to be answerable to the law and i mean our current president uh certainly isn't and somehow his son is not the law a good a good prosecutor could indict iraq is you know one of the sayings if you have a good prosecutor you

could find anything to indict on so that's why i kind of ask it becomes political once they start indicting republicans and then them trying to do it back to them. So on that- Yeah, and this isn't the first time you've seen this, right? So they started down this path, impeachment with Richard Nixon, and then they came back in revenge on Bill Clinton, right? I mean, so you've seen some of this before, but it's like, you've gone through two impeachments with Trump. You've gone through all these investigations and all that.

I mean, it is, in one sense though, I'd say what's very interesting about it is that it shows you the power of the deep state. It shows you how powerful they are, and it is exposing who is actually in charge here. Absolutely. It's Joe Biden. Every day it's Joe Biden. It's the relentless nature of the organization. It's funny that me saying Joe Biden was in charge is a joke and everyone laughs. Man, I saw a video of him today just staggering around on stage with a vacant stare and then I saw his profile and it

looked really like a fat cheek. It's Mr. Magoo as our president. Man, that show was funny. And that's, it indicates like why is the Justice Department going sideways? Well, we have no leadership or a lack of leadership. Like a good president, no matter who you are, is going to know that you don't want to disrupt and destroy your political establishment.

Oh, if you're part of the deep state right now and you're working there, this is like the greatest time of your life. Yeah. You think they enjoy it? Oh, this is great. Very little. I mean, you just left your own devices. It's all political appointees and people that have been there forever that are just having the time of their life and they're

getting a lot done uh unfortunately and i mean it's unfortunate for all the people in america but i will say this about hunter hunter could play a very critical role in ending the war in ukraine i do believe all he would have to do i think for a like a brief period of time given the nature of his consumption boycott perhaps russian liquor and hookers and the war's over i mean i think it would have an effect on the economy that would be irreversible perhaps like that putin would fly him out yeah it's like hunter we need you back please it's this is oh what we need you back, please. How do you feel about this war in Ukraine situation? What kind of resolution do you see?

You know, I think the unfortunate thing is that you're not seeing, and of course, out of this administration, there seems to be no diplomatic overtures whatsoever to try to end the war in Ukraine. And there needs to be some type of negotiated end to this. If you think that the Ukrainians are going to be able to categorically and strategically defeat the Russian military and defeat Russia, that's not a likely outcome, right? And so they need to be in a position where there can be some type of negotiated peace settlement here. The Ukrainians, though, for them, they want Crimea back. They want the Donbass. I don't know if that's necessarily possible, but there needs to be some type of diplomatic overtures from our secretary of state who seems to be, has anybody seen him? Tony Blinken, the secretary of state? I hear nothing from him,

nothing from him on this. I feel like I've heard more from like Henry Kissinger, who's like 100, right? I mean, like he's talked about this more than Tony Blinken. It's funny you mentioned that because Tony Blinken actually went to Henry Kissinger's 100th birthday in New York City like sometime last week. Not to derail the conversation too aggressively do have to deter China as it relates to Taiwan. And I think that there can be deterrence in that because you're talking about a massive area that is hugely important to the United States as it relates to the economy of the United States, right? But deterrence is the key here.

I mean, somebody said a long time ago, if you want peace, prepare for war. If we do say we will defend Taiwan, that would be setting deterrence, then. So can we get a yes or no answer on it? Deterrence is different than war. Well, we'd be deterring China by telling them that we would come to the defense of Taiwan. Yes, but deterrence is also power projection, right? So we, I'll give you a great example. We deterred the Soviet Union for decades, right? I mean, that was the detente.

That was the deterrence strategy there. Deterrence can be a viable option here because they're going to make the calculation because for them, they're going to have to look to see, okay, they're going to take airstrikes into Taiwan. Eventually, they will have to put boots on the ground and an amphibious assault, right? But then they're also going to have to take out our assets in third fleet, right? Who's out there in the Pacific.

That is going to then incur massive casualties on their side and ours. Amphibious, they've not done amphibious invasion, right? So they're trying to think that hundred mile stretch that they're going to have to cross with that looks like. We have to make that calculation as difficult as humanly possible for them. if i just could joe biden has repeatedly said that we will militarily intervene if taiwan is attacked by china do you agree with joe biden

or disagree i feel like i know we could put a lot of but at the end of the day like yeah i mean that statement is like so basic i guess it's what he says is why I'm asking it kind of specifically like that. Yeah. I mean, it's like with anything with him. It's like it's such a basic answer. It's like we should like what his answer should be is like we should deter China from invading Taiwan. He'd argue that he's deterring them by saying that he would come to their defense. And Trump did something similar.

Yeah. Trump famously bragged that he told Xi Jinping and Putin that he would nuke, what did he say, Shanghai? Moscow, I think. Moscow. And he was like, and you know, they don't really believe me, maybe 5%, but it was enough. And that was like, I'm like, man, I like Trump. I get why he's doing it. If it stops the war.

Yes. I'm pressing the biggest geopolitical issue. And that's the thing we have to the the stated objective here is for me to stop war like we don't want a war with china over taiwan there's i just i just think to to come out and be like yes or no should we militarily defend tai? It's not so easy to say. Well, that's deterrence. The idea of deterrence is to prevent. I get it, but it maybe makes sense for a commander in chief.

I don't know what I could say about it. As a congressman, though. I know this is related. There's talk about China setting up some kind of base in Cuba. Would you support military action to prevent that? Yes. Oh. of course. Well, I mean, that's like on the table.

You know why China's doing it, too. They're like, you want to come to our territory, we'll come into yours. Yes. They've been sending their boats up to Alaska and Hawaii. It's the Monroe Doctrine is what it is that prevents it to keep anyone from basically Asia out of the Western Hemisphere. Anybody out of the sphere of influence of the Western Hemisphere. Although we still have communists running around in Cuba and Venezuela. We have literal communists in the United States.

The FBI picked up Chinese police, policing the Chinese people in the United States. I want people to to understand this i'm i'm like ridiculously anti-intervention and anti-war but the only thing i can say is when war starts your pieces of paper your constitution your laws mean nothing yep the only thing that holds the constitution together is a community of people who all agree these are the rules but if it came down to china sending up a military base in cuba we're talking what what is it 50 some odd miles not is it 90 miles it's 100 miles to key west from that listening station they want 100 miles so we're talking 100 miles away from u.s territory not to mention our waters

if it came down to actual bombs falling do you think anyone is going to stop in the middle of a war and be like okay we've got a wave of enemy troops and spies in this area and you go hey i have a right to stand here they're going to be like dude my children will die you will not block me right now we are at war when war happens you're not you're going to be hard pressed to find anybody so we talked about this the other day with Abraham Lincoln. We were taught throughout our lives how much of a hero he was. But, yo, dude had a suspension of habeas corpus corridor going up through Maryland. The federal government arrested members of the Maryland legislature because they had pro-Southern sentiments.

Ain't nobody care what you think your rights are when people are fighting for their lives so if war were to break out if china invades taiwan we can all sit back and argue the merits but if it came down to bombs dropping on our allies i don't think there's even a question to be had like war hit us the moment other countries are being blown up now i know there's a bunch of very very hardcore anti-interventionists i'm friends with a lot of them a lot of libertarians are gonna be like under no circumstances but i'm like it's not so simple as just to say we can't if they're if if if the war escalates into u.s territory we have military bases in south korea maybe we shouldn't

but if they're under fire if their ports are blockaded if there is massive warfare breaking out we are in it whether we want it or not 100 i think the u.s sphere of influence should not be as pronounced we need better international agreements i wish there was an easy answer as to how you solve for this but i i do think if the u.s does pull out of these places china just slams right through they will and then and then you get war and then you get war it's just i wish it was so easy that's what it is pacific i i wish it was so it was as easy enough to be like the u.s should stay out of it in all circumstances but that's that's the one thing that keeps me from being an absolutist anti-interventionist yeah and i guess that's my point is that our objective should be to prevent war it should be due to to deter war certainly i guess with his statement he's trying to do that.

But what we should do is everything in our power with our allies there is to deter war. South Korea, we have tens of thousands of forces there. Whether you agree with that or not, they're there. Japan, obviously in Okinawa, we have forces there as well. And we have a lot of trade in between Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, and this country. Those international shipping lanes and waters will be closed. I think it's 60% of world GDP that goes through those. Yes, they will then control that then, right?

So our goods and services will not be able to reach those areas any longer. And maybe somebody might say, well, we shouldn't trade with them anyway. Well, I will tell you as an economic effect here in the United States, it would have a massive negative effect in the short term, uh, and likely the longterm. I want to, I want to ask a question for the people, the anti-interventionist, uh, individuals in the chat. We have military bases in, in South Korea. We have military, uh, bases all over the Pacific.

We have allies. If war broke out with taiwan and then we were just like we can't do it we don't want world war three so we don't get involved i can understand the position if china then starts blockading the this area of the pacific causing resource strain in south korea which causes economic collapse and do we then say okay we've got to at least tell them to open up trade and do we then militarily intervene intervene not not in terms of war but to send a presence to be like we are opening up a trade corridor back off what happens if in the conflict missiles go flying and you end

up with uh elements of japan or south korea taking damage do we then intervene like physical conflict happens taiwan's fighting there's now jets there's bombs going off and then it spreads throughout the region do we intervene then if you say no no i totally get it i am i am like 99 i there's so much i don't get involved uh would not would not want the u.s involved in because we're it's not us but the question is, at what point is the conflict escalating to where we would have to, in your mind? Maybe the answer is never, because I'm genuinely asking. What if the conflict reaches the point where U.S. military bases are locked in, our troops can't get out, and now the conflict has spread, South Korea is now involved,

and U.S. military bases are taking active flak in the conflict, do we then get involved? Well, I think you raise a really good point, right? So how many troops did we have in Afghanistan? There were 18,000? We have about roughly 60,000 just in South Korea. And these are remnants of World War II and the Cold War. And the Korean War. Right, absolutely.

And so, you know, my stance very much is like. We shouldn't we should like the U.S. is just it's there's I believe that the establishment, as we refer to it, is the empire and the American people want nothing to do with any of this. We want to live our lives, work hard and have a great, great, great country. Instead, we have these powerful worldly interests, global interests, internationalists spending our money and our labor on Ukraine, printing money, Federal Reserve, all that garbage that I think is trash. The question realistically, though, is and genuinely not rhetorically, when do you do you think there is a line at which the U.S. has to engage? Should we decommission our military bases and bring our troops back? Or do we say a conflict in the region has now has now resulted in American lives lost

we're involved well if american lives are lost then yeah we got to get involved and i mean it's tough yeah it's tough right and the problem is you're going to have a lot of dominoes fall do you think for any 28 000 in south korea yeah any reasonable including contractors and all those other uh and civilians in there i think it's close to 60 and the do you think under any circumstances china stops at taiwan no way if taiwan falls then we have no credibility among our allies in the region and i just also wanted to mention because of our troops in korea they are strictly there as deterrence to get killed there is no chance of them being able to fight back in case of an actual attack those are just there to increase the lives lost the political cost

than if an attack were to happen yeah and then let's say that's a good reason for them not to be there and well no that is the deterrence that is what the deterrence is at play there and so now if north korea wants to do anything to the south or china wants to help north korea do anything to the south it's going to cost you 30 000 american lives and the consequences of that in mainland usa yeah if we had 30 000 troops in ukraine putin would have would not have invaded he would have killed them and then the consequence here would have been killed them then we would be at war so that's the idea of deterrence i think that if the u.s issued a no-fly zone before the invasion putin would not have invaded if the u.s there issued a no-fly zone before the invasion, Putin would not have invaded. If the U.S. asserted interest in Ukraine.

There were so many things that could have happened right before the invasion. It did not have to happen this way, mismanaged under the Obama administration. I disagree. I think we sell it. Intentional. Sell the Donbass to Russia. Make them pay for it. If you want war with Russia, your best scenario is to be able to blame Russia for starting the war.

Then you destroy him if the u.s implemented a no-fly zone over ukraine and asserted interest in the region they could have done the same thing we should do with crimea with a vote and you have a you have a lot of people who are pro-west in ukraine u.s could then put troops that are already in europe station them in ukraine for uh training of the ukrainian troops if there's a no-fly zone then we'd have to shoot down a russian jet in the ukrainian territory it would mean that would be war it would mean that if russia flew in it's a declaration of war yep and that's kind of the tit-for-tat escalation though because then it's putting the onus on russia on yeah but it's us shooting down their

jet for no no no you misunderstand if we put up a no-fly zone and russia violates it they've declared war on us that's a like that's a dangerous easy way to slip into war with russia which is why we're at war with russia i don't think we're at war with russia we lit we have u.s troops on the ground in ukraine we support their allies but to say war we're at war with russia is like to say that we were at war with russia when we fought in vietnam so you mean so you're saying that it's u.s actual actual u.S. special forces on the ground in Ukraine, armed with U.S. weapons,

providing U.S. intelligence and U.S. missiles and NATO resources to Ukrainians with U.S. veteran volunteers is not the U.S. at war with Russia. Was that reported beyond the... Yes, New York Times.

It was reported in the New York Times. The Green Berets are definitely... This came out in the Pentagon Leaks. We know for a fact U.S's special forces. I think it allows me to get a good point because in Vietnam, we did that. And but we weren't at war with China. Same with Afghanistan.

China was funding. Look, look, look. We're at war with the war. The war is there. If the U.S. said we have an interest in Ukraine, we are training them. We are going to supply them before the invasion. It would have put Russia in a very difficult political spot i think the biden administration the the the neocons the u.s establishment wanted the war because we can't

invade russia and remove putin yeah well now we now hold on yeah sorry sorry now we can now you look at the drone strikes in moscow you look at the terror attacks you look at the incursion into russia belgarod now it's oh well russia started the war and now people are fighting back what what may happen is if putin gets desperate and escalates in ukraine the u.s can then say we have no choice putin must be removed he used nuclear weapons and then we go into russia so and to that point why didn't they invade when trump was president because they probably thought he was going to nuke moscow yep right because there there was a level of deterrence there there was a level of deterrence there that and that kept the peace right and you know clearly that was not the case

uh we're not in that case at all whatsoever under the biden administration i think to answer the question why didn't putin invade during Trump administration? I think John Bolton was a national security advisor, so I think maybe that had something to do with it. I just wanted to throw that in there. Nice mustache. I think he's in favor of about five wars right now.

Five? 500 wars! I do think that is part of the actual serious answer to your question. I think John Bolton helped play a role in deterring Putin. Yeah, but there was a serious level of deterrence because, I mean, Trump was not to be trifled with. That's the image he projected. I think there's a couple different factors.

One, Trump is, to a certain degree, the madman. Whether you view that positively or negatively, his fans call him a madman. The left calls him a madman for different reasons. Putin probably saw that. But also, Donald Trump's interests are in strengthening the United States, making America better, securing our borders, ending this ridiculous imperialism. And I think Putin was like, okay, we don't need war. Trump crushes ISIS.

He's setting a timeline for getting us out of Afghanistan. These are good things for the world. He tries to negotiate peace with North Korea. Not that he did a great job in terms of success, but crossing the DMZ was a great show of peace and faith. Abraham Accords were fantastic. For those who believe in world peace, respecting the various cultures of the world and their borders and their rights trump was doing a heck of a good job yes but the people in the united states right now at

the top who hate trump they want world domination they want a liberal economic order which controls all spheres of influence they want a unified sphere of influence and that requires removing putin and putting in someone who will do as we say. That involves working with China. That's why we see that across the board. And then what we're seeing with ESG is effectively these DEI offices and businesses, it's just like how the Communist Party of China puts their Communist Party offices in corporations. Trump was basically like,

hey, we don't want to rule the world, man. We want the world to be stable and peaceful. And Putin was like, that's a good thing. And then what did they say in the media in the United States? He's supporting Putin's agenda. And it's like, like well if your agenda like putin's not a good dude and his agenda is not world peace or anything like that i'm not saying that right i'm saying he was like as long as you know trump's not trying to conquer russia or whatever then we don't need to go into ukraine and do any of that stuff yeah i mean look that didn't what people need to understand and you use used the term, Tim, liberal, like the liberal order.

People need to remember, in terms of the classical liberal, not liberal conservative, but the liberal order, classical liberal order, liberalism in the classical sense. And the difference in between progressivism and neocons is neocons are progressivism with a fist. That's really the difference uh in terms uh i mean progressives have been thrown fists quite a bit yeah yeah i mean but in terms of a lot of the foreign policy that you've kind of seen out there and obviously they're they're geared towards that as well right i mean who who was the bigger interventionalist obama or trump right obama yeah yeah obama hands down is a murderous he was playing cleanup for bush though bush made a big mess over there yes yes yes libya not really in libya no no no it was hillary clinton's thing yeah oh come on it's under obama and syria obama that sydney blumenthal hillary was instrumental in setting

up the fascists. He's the commander in chief. Buck stops with him. And these are his people. Oh, yeah, for sure. He hired all those people. And he is responsible for all of the military action that happened during the eight years he was in office. So at the end of the day, it is Barack Obama's fault because he was the commander.

They went in and said, we're going to go topple the government in Libya. We're going to get rid of Gaddafi. We came, we saw he died. What's wrong about getting rid of Gaddafi? Gaddafi sucks. They made a commitment to Gaddafi that if he turned over his nuclear material that they wouldn't take him out of power. And then

what that does, you can go look it up, but he's disarmed, get him. What that does is was a there was you go look at it but what he's disarmed get him what that does is that makes other states understand that okay they took uh qaddafi out of power they took saddam hussein out of power that means that iran only wants a nuclear missile more that means that that uh the uh north korea north korea only wants nuclear missile war because what it did was told despots that if you have nuclear weapons, the US won't do anything.

If you don't have nuclear weapons, the US will kill you. But let's be real. Is Libya better or worse off now? Worse. No question. And so when we're looking at a mess of a leadership of a government,

is it really the right thing to do to destabilize a country to the point of warring military factions militias and slave trade not anymore just because it's bad in that country doesn't mean that we are not capable of making it 10 times worse it used to be a good tactic before air travel like you have if you have enemies across the globe that are literally cannibalizing and murdering and you want to destabilize one of them so that they all fall into a war, they killed each other. Then you're able to go in and set up liberal,

real liberalism. That's understandable. But now that we're interconnected chaos over there is chaos over here. So it, we're now we're stepping on each other's feet. We're stepping on our own feet. You want to know what's amazing. So these Arab world leaders never saw it it coming twitter popped up in their country and

they said what does it matter if people are posting where they're going to breakfast and when they're using the toilet and what happened was facebook and twitter which come on let's be real you know they have back doors for the federal government intelligence agencies they were operating sock puppet accounts to sow discord in these nations. This is a fact. We know that they did this. They create fake accounts. They'll have 50 accounts run by one individual to create the perception of popular opinion. Then for the people who live in these countries, when they log into the app, the only thing

they see is dissent. They see horrible videos of police brutality, of government atrocities. They start getting angry about it. Then they see everyone tweeting or posting on Facebook how there's going to be a big protest. And through the manipulation of the mind through social media, they're able to foment these protests. It is a fact that the Arab Spring was ignited by social media posts. Now, to what degree was it legitimate versus psyops? I don't know. The psychological operations could have have been minimal but we know they were doing it it could have been

very minimal it could have been hey this is an opportunity for us it could go go as far as it was orchestrated by us i get the vibe that it was uh organic in that only because there was no follow-up from the u.s they got crushed by the the mill the governments of the middle east and then there was no like american justice here to stop you from crushing your civilians they just let it we all watched it happen in 2011 basically from the sidelines libya escalated the point where we removed gaddafi yeah but wasn't it like five years later or something four years i mean the country was ripped into civil war you know it is what it is that's a good point but maybe maybe the results aren't just what you think you know what i mean yeah yeah i mean look if your justification is we need to go

take care of every bad guy in the world we're going to be in we're going to be in war forever that literally makes bad guys like if you go out and you're like we're going to take care of the bad guys all you're going to do is multiply the number of bad guys do you think that hitler was made to be a bad guy or did it was it just happened because we sat back and didn't intervene had nothing to well let's clarify what do you mean by that do you mean like like the actions taken against him made him crazy or world war one obviously made him crazy uh and made germany poor and forced forced Germany into a poverty state. So they were kind of like desperate. And, but so if we hadn't done that war,

the world war one, would it, would that just never really, well, had we done, it wasn't us, but it was the British basically. No,

no, no, no. The war started in Europe first. Right. But hold on. Look, the Archduke Ferdinand,

come on guys. Come on. It's basic. But look, the, the, the fact that the, the, the treaty of, right but hold on look i mean archduke ferdinand come on guys come on this is basic but look the the fact that the the treaty of it was a treaty of versailles that ended world war one yeah but but it was a it resulted in the germans getting angrier and their territory split up and and like nobody made hitler intentionally right these these are these are circumstances that arise that give gives uh give give opportunity to psychopaths and strongmen to manipulate control and then do horrifying things if we knew for a fact that an action we took today would lead to something like that i'm

sure we would avoid it but people don't know like nobody can see the future yeah and the actions that the that individuals take like whether you're talking about hitler or stalin or anything these actions were informed by philosophy so like all of the all of what happened in the first half of the 20th century world war one and world war two that was all informed by marx nietzsche and the and hegel and the philosophers of the century before it is crazy if you look at europe a lot of people just think they focus on world war ii but it's like no you gotta look at russia you gotta look at spain italy a lot was going on split between the ultra progressive uh progressivists and the traditionalists break up of the habsburg empire

yeah i'm trying to slow down and understand for a second you guys don't think we should be going after any bad guys in the world no weren't we just diving into that about not being world police and not trying to chase after bad guys because we'd make more of them as a result i don't want to misquote the we should not be going and taking going into countries and removing spotting dust spots or dictators or communists no no and you call yourself an anti-communist but yes you should stop because i don't think you're an anti-communist if you don't i'm an anti-communist no you do not liberal liberals do not go and export war liberalism does not it does not make for a does not justify a country exporting war you're neutral on communism i'm anti-communist and i see no no no because out

of your mind this is not anti-communism as i understand it in any sense of the word communism is a philosophy first and they're communist governments phil not an argument you're out of your mind like articulate oh okay so the idea that i'm not anti-communist i'm so like you don't support overthrowing and fighting wars because like so i i am i spend most of my time learning about the philosophies that inform communists so i can articulate in a way that people can understand the philosophies that are affecting our country here. We are in no position to go overseas and fight communists because right now we have a cultural revolution going on in our country. If you are not on the same page about the cultural revolution going on in our country,

you can go and export all the war you want, but you're going to fall apart in your own country. The United States will fall from the inside. If we make any effort to go to someone else's country and, and remove their despotic leader, because he's a, he's a, he's a strong man that has used communist rhetoric to get into power. So you're anti-communist domestically,

internationally, not anti-communist domestically internationally not anti-communist the biggest the biggest threat to liberalism in the world is the united states falling to communism currently we are fighting to prevent the united states from having a complete cultural revolution which turns us into essentially china with american characteristics and and being for or against intervention does not mean you are for or against communism no because slow down actually um because as countries countries interact with one another and there are communist countries that have existed and i think we should work against them because they continue to spread the values that you continue to say that that's not invading also

communism also oppresses the people within their countries we should be worried about the millions oppressed in other yeah i i i don't like antifa far leftists i do not actively go out and seek out their events to try and stop them from holding them that does not mean that i'm i'm supporting antifa it would make you not in it i wouldn't say anti-communist that's a ridiculous argument no phil calls himself constantly an anti- Yes, because he clearly is in opposition to communism. But just because he has a different stance on war

than you doesn't mean he now supports communism. I guess let's clarify. I'm militaristically anti-communist. Absolutely. And you are a pessimist. I'm not an interventionist. I'm a libertarian. Well, I'm not a libertarian. I'm libertarian-ish. But anyways. I'm not. Shout out to, I'm not a libertarian. I'm libertarian ish. But anyways, I'm not.

Shout out to our friend. Was it George? Yeah. No. So like communists in Cuba, communists. Should we work towards anything towards helping the people in those countries? Or we should do what we did in the Cold War, which is export. That's war.

Listen, you need to you need to stop cutting me off but like you we should export export liberal ideas and liberal philosophy because it beats communist philosophy it beats the the idea that the world should be reshaped to make a communist world we do not need to export war to do that we do not need to go and bomb everybody we disagree with well do you i think i agree with you on one thing that we should go back to the cold war shave your mustache handling these communist nations if you shave the mustache you would feel totally different you'd be like oh the ghost is gone. I can see again.

What actually happened was Bolton's mustache is actually an entity. Yes. And it was breeding. It has a brain of its own. I saw Elon outside with no mustache, and the mustache jumped on his face, and he went. It's like a face hugger. It sounds like, Phil, you're particularly against this CIA doctrine of the jackals, setting the economic warfare, the economic hit men where they'll send in first.

They try and bribe the country. If it doesn't work, then they'll send in hit men to assassinate. That doesn't work. They send in the troops. I don't have I don't have a particular policy preference that the United States should take about how to deal with other countries and their their their political philosophy. What if they start invading and conquering their neighbors? Well, I mean, it depends on... I think you need to make a U.S. national interest calculation on that. How does that affect us, right? I mean, does that threaten our security?

Does that threaten our country? There's a U.S. national security interest, a kind of real politic that you got to take a look at when you're looking at these issues and is it an existential threat to our way of life to our economy to what there are times where we do have to act but it's not every time it's a nice nuanced position uh to take it's nice yeah to hear and then what if it's our economy is not going to get hurt but like the british economy is but then you would argue that that's our economy is not going to get hurt but like the british economy is but then you would argue that that's all then and is going to like a domino going to affect our economy could right i mean i don't think that there's you know you can't live in like black and white in this uh you know it's like well if this happens do you do this i mean it depends on

the circumstances are we talking about china's invading uh you know the united kingdom well no particularly russia invading ukraine because i think people think it's like germany invading the United Kingdom. Well, no, particularly Russia invading Ukraine, because I think people think it's like Germany invading Poland. They're looking at it like the beginning of the Nazi conqueror of Earth, and that's why we're there. But it's not so simple. NATO's expansion is a component of this as well. But I think the breakup of Germany was the reason why it happened the first time. The breakup of Germany? Yeah, after World War I, they split it up.

They took pieces of Germany and gave it to Poland. So Hitler was trying to take it back. And then we can go back in time further and back in time further. As we're talking right now, NATO should not have been expanding into the Baltic states bordering Russia. And I'm not saying that for that reason we are at fault. I'm saying a lot of things played a role in how we ended up at this point with Ukraine. The U.S. is not served by what they're doing the the the the globalist elite the davos group these psychopaths the imperialists they're benefiting from it if they win but the american people are only losing out because of it to be

fair there's a such a big complicated picture i love this so much the united states has all of its wealth because we have guns and because we're willing to go to war the federal reserve we we print money and we have the reserve currency and then these powerful elites are willing to just go and destroy whatever to maintain that and this is why we have lazy entitled city urban liberal types who don't do real work but somehow have access to all of this food and wealth and luxury i do not believe that's good for this country i do not believe the path that we've been going on culturally in this country is good for humans or americans what america should be is hard-working individuals who take responsibility for themselves who who let give people the the civil rights they deserve instead what we have

is powerful global elites who think that we should be at war with in in ukraine be at war with russia remove putin remove all opposition expand our military bases so that we can maintain the reserve currency so that we can live fat and happy in our country without doing any work i don't see a net benefit to that in the long run i think that if we culturally were sufficient people around earth would be joining us they would try to create a united states of their own i think that that's a whole lot of assumption when we went to when we went into iraq they were of the mind that all they had to do was get saddam out of power and then all the iraqi people would say oh we want democracy we love democracy now we're liberals and that's not the way people work do

you think they really thought that or that absolutely that's what they told us absolutely they absolutely thought that i think they believe that truly i think they were i don't think so you don't think they did what are your thoughts on it i think these people totally understand what they're doing i think the the war machine knew we're going to go into an entirely foreign culture that does not care for what we think has a different god than us and we're going to have to shape the minds of these people and it's And it's going to be very difficult. The reason why we wanted our troops in Afghanistan for as long as possible was because we wanted to create three generations of Americanized Afghanis to create and build a country. We knew we weren't going to be welcomed as liberators in Iraq.

We had to spark a culture revolution and force these people to live under our rules. I think they were true believers. I think they were smelling their own farts and they believe their own stuff i think george bush believed it that we would go in there and then they would join us i think george bush was just mad that he went after yeah he was mad about the assassination i think the massive the massive miscalculation on their part though was uh not taking in the ethnic and tribal dynamics of the country right um that you know sunnis and shias and kurds are all of a sudden going to hold hands across uh iraq and now all of a sudden yeah we believe in this those um those identities far predate um the arbitrary

lines that were made to create the nation of Iraq by the colonial powers at the time, right? You know, the Shias that are living within Iraq, right, feel more affinity towards Iran, right? And obviously the Sunnis feel more affinity towards the Arabs. The Kurds are up there in the north and they're in their own kind of separate ethnic identity up there. I mean, there's a massive miscalculation that there was going to be this like kind of like multiculturalism kumbaya like we have in the United States over in Iraq. And that's not a word. The Sunni and Shia, and I'm not an expert in any fashion, but is it the derivation from

Muhammad's direct descendants became the Sunni and then Muhammad's daughter's direct descendants became the Sunni, and then Muhammad's daughter's direct descendants became the Shia? Anyone? Yeah. So actually, if I remember correctly, it was so when Muhammad died, and then there was a succession, right? And there was like, if I remember correctly, it was either his cousin and then his son-in-law, something like that. I could be wrong. Somebody on the internet is going to be like, you're wrong, Riley. But there was two individuals essentially in the family and it split. And that's kind of how they ended up heading in that direction.

Then there's different sects of Shia Islam that exist out there as well. Also, I mean, within the Sunnis, but... You also have in a lot of these areas, tribal factions. Yes. And they're smaller and they don't get along and trying to unify all these different tribes is is nigh impossible just bring them internet get them fresh water hope for the crazy thing is you guys hear about that uh shopkeeper in san francisco who said that uh the san francisco is worse than afghanistan oh god no did the person serve in afghanistan that said he uh he was from afghanistan he was afghani he moved here and he said he had he had robbers break into his store and steal all his stuff and he was like at least the taliban terrifies these

people by threatening to cut their hands off the democrats let all these criminals go until they just get away with everything and he was like this is worse yeah how's crime in west virginia crazy crime in west virginia is low uh we have constitutional carry in West Virginia, and we also have a castle doctrine. I don't think per capita it's low, but I think it's numerically low. Yeah, numerically it's low. Is that for like a business? Does castle doctrine function with business at all? That's your home.

So if you ask someone to leave your business and they don't, they're trespassing and you have a right to shoot? Yeah, castle doctrine. Oh, castle doctrine is mean oh oh castle doctrine it's only in your home right that's your home and but you know i it is funny to think about though just to go back if we invaded like iraq today and we're like hey guys we got this thing called pride month we're gonna bring to uh we're gonna bring to iraq what do you think west west virginia sorry west virginia's violent crime is below the national median a little bit I don't know in Afghanistan I hear they do groom kids maybe they're even worse over there that's true

we should bring those liberal values over there I heard a saying that dudes in the military brought back that they had heard Afghani men saying boys are for pleasure, women are for babies I just want to make sure I think I was pretty wrong I just just looked it up uh property crime is below the national median uh crime per square mile below the national median uh violent crime uh per capita

below the national median west virginia is a very safe place a very sale safe and well-armed place yeah absolutely yep you know rainbows now that we're talking about it are actually circuit circles did you know and we only see half of them but a skydiver caught one on camera like four days ago and it's a complete circle on the ground you can see them from planes and it is awesome to look at trying to figure out where that gold went i'm gonna look that up portal it's just a light you know deep and go deep inside that that rainbow portal you go through the portal you end up in downtown san francisco what's that's what i'm talking about virginia is 1.78 million people Go deep inside that rainbow portal. You go through the portal, you end up in downtown San Francisco. That's what I'm talking about.

West Virginia is 1.78 million people? It's only 1.78 million. Yes. Yeah, so I guess, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's that when the settlers came to the country, they settled in all these areas where it was easy to travel, but West Virginia is very mountainous. So getting wagons up there was difficult. So they mostly avoided it. Now we have improved roads and travel. It's a lot easier to live here. And so you end up with a decent amount of people,

but it's only like eight generations removed, 15 generations removed. But it's crazy. Like surrounding West Virginia is a very, very dense population. We have the high ground. Yep. We got the high ground.

We're in a good, we're in a good position. And yeah, I mean, look, that's why our West Virginia University, our mascot's a mountaineer. That's what we are. I mean, we're mountaineers. We're people that are kind of out there on our own. We got a great state motto. Mountaineers are always free.

Do you ever think about bringing Virginia and West Virginia back together? I would not want to be part of Virginia. No, I, you know, I don't need Loudoun County actually being part of, uh, Jefferson's got it rough enough.

Yeah. Trying to push out all the woke nonsense. Yeah. So for those that aren't familiar, Jefferson County is like the panhandle and it's a, it's like an hour drive from here to Baltimore or DC. You go straight or you, you go,

you go East or you go a little southeast you get dc or baltimore so all of that urban liberal stuff is is very close and the funny thing about dc and baltimore is that a lot of these uh well-to-do liberal types buy property in west virginia where it's safer the property's nicer and then they bring their their garbage views with them but they're trying to escape what they've built they work in dc they come they come stay here and it's like no no what i really love is uh the facebook groups where you can tell who's who's from dc when they move out and i'm seeing all the locals laugh they'll be like there was a raccoon in my yard what do i do and they're like get your gun what yeah i don't have one of those yeah there was one was like someone left the trash out and it's like welcome to a mountain full of right-wing nut jobs.

Are you nuts? Like, don't come here. What's it like getting a gun in West Virginia? What's the process like? It's pretty fairly straightforward. It's pretty easy. Like, I'm a super new. I will explain to you.

You walk into a gun store. You say, I would like to purchase this gun. And they say, please give me your ID and fill out this federal background check form. You fill it out. They say, we will now have your federal background check run. We'll let you know. It may take a few minutes. For the average person, it will then be brought back, cleared.

And then they'll say, you are now cleared to purchase the weapon. Any weapon, like a handgun or a rifle? Yeah, same day. I, a few months back, just got an AR-10. 6.5 Creedmoor. What kind? 6.5 Creedmoor. I don't,

custom-built Harper's Ferry Armory. Oh. I'll plug them real quick. Yeah. And they actually made one for Don Jr. Oh.

Harper's Ferry Armory did? Yes. You know, it's, I don't know if it matters, but the Harper's Ferry Armory brand is a heck of a brand name. You know what I mean? It is. Dude, the AR-10 NATO Armory brand is a heck of a brand name. You know what I mean? It is.

The AR-10 NATO battle rifle designed by a dude named Eugene Stoner. Yes. What's happening? What's up? No red flag laws there. So Ian, if you tried to buy a gun first, you have to have an ID in the state.

You have to be a resident. Okay. They would probably, the federal government would probably delay you by the maximum, which I think is 72 hours, right? Yeah. Yeah. You'd be max delayed, basically them gr grumbling saying they don't think you should have weapons.

He said air is too long. When I, the first gun I bought, they put me on a three day. They did not respond to the background check until there's a law. Basically, they cannot deny you. So after three days, their right to a background check expires. Do you think that background checks are reasonable it's it's a difficult question um because you open the door to restrictions on all things and it's like how many how many how many inches do i want to give the people that want to strip me of my rights so in the honest and the most honest sense yes

they're reasonable in the political political sense, absolutely not. These people who are coming out being like, we need universal background checks. I'm like, we have them. What are you talking about? You can't buy government. No, no, no. We got to do it. They want registries.

They want national gun registries. So if it was a read-only process where they can access data, but they're not putting in data that I'm getting the thing, that might be more reasonable. You know, it's funny you bring this up because we dealt with this in West Virginia. I had a big win this year around this. So we did a piece of legislation out of my office on the national gun registry that the credit card companies and banks were trying to institute through the merchant category code. So they were going to recode. Right now, firearms had always just been sporting goods. So I could have bought a fishing pole, some ammunition, whatever. It's sporting goods.

That's how it's coded. Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the crew wanted to put in guns and ammunition specifically so they could start to track that and then have finance. This is an ESG issue and then have the banks and credit card companies flag what they deem as suspicious activity. So we put a bill in the legislature passed. And this was the tricky thing. Not to necessarily just ban the code, but create, you know what banks hate? Ballsuits. We created a cause of action.

So you could sue for every time your data was shared, which they said, this could cost us millions. I'm like, yes, exactly. It could. So Visa and MasterCard then issued a statement publicly, nationally saying, due to the legislation in the state of West Virginia, we're going to pause implementing this, not just in West Virginia, but in the entire United States. I want to clarify, too. What I should say is, idealistically, there are a lot of things when it comes to guns that would be good, if possible, but aren't. So realistically, I don't think you could implement any of these, anything. Like, saying that, there's a couple ways to consider it. Due process exists. If you, through the through due process, your rights can be curtailed. If you in some way say you're notorious son of a politician well son who does a lot of crack is trying to buy a weapon because we don't trust this guy but realistically you can't do it without infringing

on someone's rights so the only thing you can really do is just say no the the real issue is if we say through due process you can't buy a gun and you do you broke the law and then we have to then go and arrest you could be wrong but i think you have the right to own a gun but not necessarily does it say anyone in there about purchase does, does it say anywhere in there about purchase, does it? Does it say anywhere in there except? Does it say the right to keep a bare arm shall not be infringed unless? No, so I guess having one would entail receiving one. You have to be able to buy it.

Yes. You have to be able to make it. Yeah, absolutely. And they put all these restrictions on it would clearly violate Second Amendment. It's crazy. Absolutely insane. You know what you need to get a uh concealed weapons permit in west virginia nothing that is your background because it's in the constitution oh we have constitutional carry all you need to do

is carry it but but if you get your concealed carry in west virginia it's considered a in like a high intensity background check that's not the legal term they use. But that basically means you have proven beyond a great doubt about your background. So with a concealed carry in West Virginia, you don't actually do a background check per weapon because you've already done it. Yeah, and you do get reciprocity with other states.

So you would get reciprocity in Virginia. So if I'm crossing the West Virginia- Virginia border, my concealed weapons permit is recognized in Virginia as well. Is it all the bordering states? No, Maryland does not work. And be careful. Yeah. Yeah. That makes me always has made me very nervous. I'm going to just go to the wrong spot without knowing it. And I know some stupid trouble. I know people. I know people who have gone to prison i know a guy who was not from illinois from california had guns in his trunk drove through illinois got pulled over arrested him on the spot put him in prison on the spot and now he's a permanent he became a quote-unquote permanent resident of illinois because they wouldn't let him i guess it it does require mass responsibility and knowing the law

is a big part of number one you have federal you have certain federal uh presumptions in that if you're on an interstate highway and you're carrying a weapon in your trunk or something they aren't supposed to be able to criminally charge you in in these uh these states but you got to get gas don't you yeah never tell anyone like if if you get pulled over stand on the fourth amendment some some states have requirements you gotta know you gotta be careful these are evil states and they'll assert requirements that you and you inform the officer if you have a weapon or not sure sure yeah that those kind of things i mean you are required to tell them but if you if you know the state yeah yeah no no no

the state some some states will require you to tell them and stuff like that. But if you do what the officer is telling you, you're probably not going to get searched. You know, like you have a Fourth Amendment right to say, no, I don't submit to searches. They're probably going to say, well, then you got to get out of the car and I'm going to detain you. And I'm going to get a dog and I'll run the dog. They'll make up a reason. Yeah, they'll come up with a reason. I've had a cop pull me over and say whoa it smells like weed and i'm like oh

please dude no it doesn't don't smoke you know you don't have to plead guilty or innocent and they used to kill they used to crush people to death if they wouldn't plead guilty or innocent there's only one guy i think in the history of the united states that wouldn't plead it was the witch salem witch trial they crushed that they put him on the ground they covered him with boards and then they started putting rocks on top of him until he would plead one way or the other. And he's like, I'm not doing it. Because if you don't plead, the state doesn't take your property when you die, when you're

arrested or whatever. And it went to his kids. Wild story. We're going to go to Super Chats. Tim, can I jump in real quick? One quick thing. There's this band called Rivers of Neho. I pulled their story up.

Yeah. They're a bass player. Like some tweets that that from me and tim from from other conservatives and they're getting just reamed out on the on uh on twitter by the garbage blogs that are the metal blogs they're going on tour with between the married and me they're going to be starting next week i think the first show is the 16th in charleston north carolina go see this tour if you're into metal. Between the Buried and Me is

great. He issued a tepid non-statement statement. Did he really? He said, look, I'm not endorsing these people. I'm just tracking some of these Mark Schumann's views. Some of these people are obviously bad. Andrew Tate, of course, blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay, dude. You don't need our support if you

don't want to stand up for what you believe in. mark said i stand by what i said yeah he's tracking him like his media matters or something i don't know is it a good band oh i think well between i haven't i don't know uh uh the band of the dude that actually uh said that stuff i do know that uh that between the barrett and me is great so what's it called between the barrett and me between the barry and barry the berry and berry yeah look maybe look if it's true that he was only liking these tweets so he could basically tab them yeah i do i do similar things if i don't want to retweet i'll like so i can go to my like tab and see it basically bookmarks them for me if that's the case well it's not an issue of cancellation of

somebody who believes in american values it's a lefty type who hates us so why support him yeah i didn't realize that he was uh oh i mean look up look up the story from i think it's a lamb of goat or something lamb goat yeah lamb goat there you go they wrote a story about it and then he issued a statement let's go we gotta go super chats all right uh smash the like button subscribe to the channel share the show with your friends buy cast brew coffee Coffee at castbrew.com. Go to timcast.com. Become a member. Voice of the People says, saw culture war about AI. You missed an opportunity to say, the AI probably knows about the blade to cut the cables. If it were centers, they've got literal blades where you hit a button and the blade can drop down and cut the wiring, the cords. And he was like, he almost pressed it once because the alarm went off. And he was like, do I hit the button? I don't know what to do.

And then it was like a false alarm. It's primarily for electrical fires, but I think if the AI starts to, you know. It cuts data connections. T2 style yo you guys should watch the culture war episode at youtube.com slash timcast because it's a two-hour conversation on ai and i had just taken some like weird joe rogan brain juice or something yeah that new and i was like what is that is that the alpha brain no no it's something else it's made of mushrooms or something i don't know i can't remember what that's called tech someone it was like a little it was an orange pouch called like brain boosters delicious stuff

it tasted like uh melted freeze pops yeah yeah caffeine in it but we were talking about all the different scenarios that ai is going to bring about and um zach was talking about how in his work with ai it started to it started to create its own moral moral structures and he was like it's crazy to see that a predictive language model is now making arguments about its morals crazy dude all right definitely watch that one that one gamer says tim ian i hear you talk about god and i want to recommend michael jones from inspiring philosophy he covers anything from philosophy to quantum mechanics could be good for the culture war podcast thank you we'll consider raymond g stanley jr says tim i am so done with this

pedo ideology we need everyone to stop just doing business with these companies like step the f up people if we want to stop we must be committed agreed no more call of duty or activision oh that's a tough one that that is uh that's Activision Blizzard, isn't it? Yeah. No more Hearthstone. Overwatch, too. Yeah, Overwatch is rough. Diablo 4? I've actually slowly stopped playing Overwatch. Did you guys play Diablo?

No. Diablo 4 just came out. It's pretty good. We got to just start our own game studio. Yeah, that's true. Now's the time for independent creators to start their own gaming. I mean, one guy can make a game that blows a whole bunch of the other ones out of the water.

All right. Balian says, Phil, you were dope on Camelot's show the other day. Sick, man. Thanks for coming and checking it out. Right on. Let's grab some more super chats. Michael Diamond says, glad to see Ian back in the office. Smiley face.

Hey, yo. James says, start happened happened where have you been the last five minutes ian are you feeling okay tonight i don't know that's in reference to start happened is that what it said i think you said you must have said something and then they responded to it so where are we at let's grab some more super chats rusta says tim you are just as slow as the media gamers have been against this creep from the left for a while now i know that was the that was the joke gamergate was the start of the culture war it's literally gamers who started the culture war i gotta well i should say like the left encroachment started the culture war but it was gamers who

gamers rise up was the first thing i got i got a name of that stuff we were drinking earlier. It's called true brain. Is that true? Nootropics. Is that on it? Uh, maybe. I don't know who makes true brain. I think I want to order a whole bunch of it.

It is delicious. I mean, it's, it's very sweet, but like it was, it's like a, you're supposed to shoot it. I mean,

it was, it was weird. It was like sharp. I always feel better. I tried that out. I tasted sharp. That's all I can describe it. Yeah. I liked like that i like some of the on it stuff they got that rogan does there's pretty good uh-huh a lot of the mushroom stuff yeah yeah shrimp tech yeah

trash panda says anizer bush has awoken a sleeping giant this thing with dylan mulvaney has very likely put a stake through the heart of esg and the wef no joke man i mean it's kind of crazy this this wave is happening and the media is. No joke, man. I mean, it's kind of crazy. This wave is happening. And the media is desperate. They're like, no, no, no, no. Target stock is not falling because of this. It's market conditions.

And I'm like, Walmart's up. What are you talking about? No. Joseph Ray says, while I'm listening to this live stream at work through my headphones, my Gen Z coworker is listening to Hassan's stream at the exact same time. That's America, baby.

Yeah. It's's gonna be really interesting when like i don't know how hasan maintains it to be completely honest like he's a he's a very very wealthy socialist you know and he's like there's no real argument so i think the only real issue is that there's general personality fan base. Hassan is dumb. He is the himbo. He is pretty. That's why. He's a big, attractive-looking man. He is not a smart guy. Him and Lance, same level.

Lance from the Serfs. I respect Lance for trying. He really did. He actually came with notes and everything. It was really funny how one example i can give when i asked him why did why did he think so many kids are coming out as trans he holds up the left-handed thing yo i wasn't arguing with him i literally asked him what his thoughts were and then i talked about endocrine disruptors but all these leftists made videos where they were like lance owns tim pool questioning trans kids or whatever and i was

like bro i wasn't questioning him i was literally asking him what his thoughts were i noticed they don't know what the point of this they don't know the difference between men and women they're like what do you expect there's a there's a funny tweet uh elon musk i think tweeted something and uh that angela what's her name belcamine or whatever and she said something like conservatives have a hard time understanding the difference between sex and gender and i responded i was like actually i think it's liberals who who are having a hard time understanding the difference between sex and gender. And I respond, I was like, actually, I think it's liberals who are having a hard time understanding the difference. Oh, yeah. Because like we didn't make a female sporting events because sometimes people wear dresses.

That's gender. Yeah. We're talking about a distinction between sex, but they can't seem to figure that out. I'm starting to buy there. There's there's an argument that there is no gender right like that is that is relatively new concept if yeah that it's it's not actually different from your from your sex like they're so closely related that to call them different things is wrong dude the idea that if you wear a dress you're a woman is absurd considering people wear flowy robes in other

countries and they're dudes. Go to a Scottish guy who's wearing a kilt and be like, you must be a woman. I used to understand it like this. So like, my dog is a female. She is not a woman, right? And I was like, well, so that kind of makes sense to me that a woman is different than a female human.

But I think in the context of humans, they're so closely related that I'm not so sure that I buy that argument. Look, when Lance was on the show, he outlined it very, very perfectly how their ideology is literally insane. When he said that if a man has adult relations with a small, effeminate looking man, he is straight. I'm like, OK, wait, what? Yes, because his so they've backed themselves into this corner with their own broken ideology so here's what starts they say trans women are women therefore if and

i asked him i was like so if you're a straight if you're like a male and you engage in relations with a trans woman is that gay says no of course not because trans women are women and i'm like okay but trans women are biologically male they've got male parts now because women it's like you you look at how their body type is their their skin their height all of these things play a role i said okay so what if you have a man who identifies as a man and he's effeminate five foot two 120 pounds and another man who is six foot tall and burly decides to have relations with that other man is that gay and he goes no wow but i'm like but they're both men yeah he's like but he's effeminate and then i think ian asked like what if the woman is like what if a guy has sex

with a woman who's like really big and masculine is that game goes yeah and it's just like what because there's no there's no logic to what they're saying it's just like, what? Because there's no logic to what they're saying. It's just like, you know what they've done? They got a jigsaw puzzle in front of them and they started mashing random pieces together and they're just bashing them on the table to make them fit. And it goes back to this observable reality, right?

Like what you can observe is real and what they're trying to do is control language and control the way that we associate with each other now, right? I mean, it all comes down to control. And what they are forcing is our compliance in this ideology. It's just another just facet of the total control ideology of the left. This is just one facet of it and look like i said i mean a child when they are born that that gender is not determined it is observed right i mean there

are intrinsic immutable characteristics of women right that's just the way it is i would say their sex is is observed when they're born but gender i don't really understand i still i learned about it in when i was young gender gender is not a thing it was created in like the 50s 1950s or something the idea and the problem is so look the left they are yes their sex is observed did i say gender gender yeah yeah yeah but but so what what the left would consider gender united states doesn't exist outside of it you if if they're saying that the social constructs around the uh a person's sex is gender it's different in different countries so the problem would be you get a scottish kid from a traditional scottish family who for some like let's just say

the kid was wearing a kilt comes here and they're going to be like that's a woman get him the surgery it's like no no they wear kilts like it's not a skirt you might think's not a skirt. You might think it's a skirt. Kids make jokes about it. Yeah. And if you're talking about other countries, think about this. Not just get outside of the English-based language countries like United Kingdom, United States. Think about Latin America or any of these other places like Spain that speak Spanish, right? The entire language is based around masculine and feminine, right? You know, so if you say, sir, you know, you're senor. If you're a woman, senorita, right? So, even every object has essentially a masculine or feminine word uh word attached to it that's how the entire language works yeah yeah l or la yeah yes and french too yeah le or la all right let's read

let's read some more we got trine 54 he says screw the eve six cover i'd love tim cast cover of pink floyd's another brick in the wall imagine phil shredding that chorus hey teachers oh yeah that actually is a really good idea let's do it leave those kids alone leave those kids alone i we should do it and then but we should also do the 86 cover just to make him mad i was that song we should do i don't know about that maybe here's to the night here's the night okay we can do that's that song's inside out rock my world inside out to uh one of the one of the most notable songs of our generation, and I believe one of the best of the 90s, hands down. It just came out of nowhere, man.

Those guys hit the road running. They were young, too. Splash. I think Promise is like early 2000s pop punk treasure. I think Here's to the Night is... I don't know where I would put on the list of the best songs, the top songs of all time but i put it on the list i'm not going to compare it to another brick in the wall or time by pink floater anything i think that'd be silly it's like it's not the lord of rings lord of the rings like which is an epic but it's it's up there in one of those you

know songs like you you like the mummy two or something you know the song here tonight right like i don't not have you played it i would you played it for me before but i didn't hear it it's a good one it's a good one and then they also have um what i said uh yeah promise here's the night and they have a bunch of other ones um what's that what's that one uh well curtain is good that was that was later i would love to do a cover of any one of these but i gotta be honest the reason i won't is because i think this this this uh eve's this guy max is probably too ideological to allow something to succeed and you'd run into him just filing dmcas or something for for political points which is like hey it's unfortunate unless the cover's really good then he's gonna be jamming

along nah nah he'll get a bunch of people tweeting at him being like look what he's doing and then he'll be like okay i'll take it down i mean if you do it with respect for the song, it might transcend politics. It's worth trying if you really like it. It will transcend politics for the listeners. It will not transcend politics for Max. We need that in the world right now. The battle of the bands has returned. Get ready.

Oh, Trump's having a rally on Tuesday? Apparently, according to Truth Social. Where is it? Trump posted a thing calling for a rally or something. Where is it? In Miami. It's an all hands on deck Trump document hoax rally in Miami apparently on Tuesday.

Hopefully they bring the boat song back. Do you remember the Trump Spanish language song? Yes, that was amazing. That song was awesome. I just want to say this everybody. Be careful. Because y'all know how january 6 went down you might you might be walking down the street and then they're going to be like 20 minutes ago there was a barrier there and now you're now you're violating federal property so

you got to be peaceful but beyond that you have to like have your lawyer at your side at all times advising you on what to do there were a lot of people on january 6 who had no idea what was going on and watched people walking into a building as police fanned them in and those people are now sitting in jail so keep that in mind all right logan culver says phil with massive 20s tonight thank you massive 20s yeah when you asked a lot to stop interrupting you i was like this is genuine discourse this is we need more of this. I got love for love. It's mutual. We just fired up.

I'm not, I'm not your buddy guy says, I want to give a shout out to a great documentary everyone should watch called The Great Awakening. Please help share with your friends and family. We have a chance to stop this evil. But that window for the West is closing. I don't know what that documentary is, but thanks for the super chat.

I don't know. Is that a Q thing or something don't know it's by jeffrey morrison all right let's grab some more super chats there was one that i wanted to read because someone was making a point of something uh well this one sounds good what is this domestic tourist says shout out to joshua from ark. My AT&T rep from this afternoon. Tim cast was the medium, which brought two strangers together to discuss politics while waiting on hold. Nice. By the way,

sorry to cancel my line, man. That was a good one. Nice. Lunderwear says, I'm not a coffee drinker, but since you went with, went with focus with Mr.

Bocas, I'm going to buy the crap out of that when it comes out all right yep yeah it's all it's all coming i think but first i think uh we have unwoke sleepy joe and mr bogus pumpkin spice experience we want to keep the pump pumpkin spice and stocky around because it makes no sense not to but everyone does so we're going to capture the market a sleepy joe decaf is that the that's right that's got to be a decaf it's a decaf and unwoke is as well okay there's no waking him spencer jones says love the guest tonight elad love your work ian keep it weird okay the first i was going to say this earlier the first time we ever talked about black rock vanguard state street state street ian's the one

who brought it up i think it was out i think it was Alex Jones in his episode. But I started hitting it really hard right away when I heard about it. And it was, I think, yeah, Vanguard was the first one I heard of. Glad you guys have been talking about it. I mean, when I divested from them two years ago, people were like, what the hell are you talking about? What is this? And here we are now. It has been going on for so long too like most people don't realize how long they've been doing this uh or working on this project the the esg project

i i think it's been going on for longer than a decade it's about it's about 20 years i remember it 2012 is when i think as when i it sparked my radar. So it actually, ESG, kind of the investment strategy, was started actually by a bureaucrat in the United Nations. Ugh. And that's where it originally took hold

and of course, here we are now. All those alliances that they have, like the Net Zero Asset Managers Alliance, it's run by the UN. So these are all

UN organizations. All right, we got self-made woman saying two things one your reporter is rolling a lot of ones two pride month is cringe captured and regulated ideological narratives by governing elites well all right kalishnikov says shout out to shane cashman he had a masterful interview with alex jones the other day alex was so happy he looks so happy in the interviews it's actually a really funny story because uh shane was going to interview alex and we were like trying to track alex down because he's he's so busy and like alex was like yeah definitely let's let's do

this we'll have to find a time and then we were like we don't know if we can figure out where he's going to be because he's getting bounced around and called all these different things and i'm talking to shane i'm like shane look man you know alex is very very busy it'd be really cool if we were able to get but if you can't do it you can't do it he's like yeah and then like the next day it's like shane cashman on info wars and i was like oh i guess and you guys can follow shane cashman on instagram he's got clips up from the show it's at shane cashman where are we at flying failure says mr moore we spoke after i called into your office concerning West

Virginia financials. Are you concerned with the companies like Citadel who post record earnings, but hold billions in the hole with assets yet to be purchased? Yeah, certainly. I'd say it is concerning. It is concerning. What was the commenter's name? This is Flying Failure. Ah, okay. Well, then I don't't remember don't remember talking to flying failure but no it's certainly concerning jason gardner says tim stop saying lgbt is using god's covenant god's rainbow is seven colors and lgbt is six not the same it's the devil's rainbow no no you misunderstand i said they're appropriating god's covenant they are trying to take the general

concept of rainbow for themselves and taking it away from christians i understand god's covenant they are trying to take the general concept of rainbow for themselves and taking it away from christians i understand god's covenant is different but that would be like someone taking the american flag changing it to pride colors and waving it around and you'd be like no it's a totally different flag like no they're taking the american flag and they do this i told shamus i'm christians should absolutely take the rainbow like and use it fly it's god's covenant i'm seeing it a lot of outside a lot of churches, so maybe they already are. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Seriously.

I think those are mostly Episcopalian. Is that what that's? I don't know enough about the denomination. Was there a joke? No, those are the ones that are generally kind of flying it. Yeah. All right. What do we got?

Let me see. Red Line says, Tim tim throwing money at you gays against groomers and scott nugent hosting a peaceful protest at st louis pride saturday the 24th uh people even lgbt are tired of kids seeing lewd crap too and we're speaking out but antifa found out would greatly appreciate if you helped signal boost the thing well i read your super chat you know so there you go what city was that in specifically st louis st lou boost the thing well i read your super chat you know so there you go what city was that in specifically st louis st louis the thing that people are are fed up with always be peaceful is the queer theory right like most people have got we're we're comfortable or most

people are comfortable with gay people with with homosexuals lesbians and i think that our society will have very little problem assimilating so that or making making concessions for trans people but what we can't do is allow a in a an ideology that is intentionally subversive to undermine the structure of our society we are a liberal society queer theory is based on authoritarian leftist authoritarianism and that's the problem the problem is not that there are gay people or that there are lesbians or that there are even trans people our society can easily handle all of that stuff with minimal actual changes in your in everyone's day-to-day life it's the communism it's the communism like 100 people people in this sphere love blair white the issue is the communism the the the american traditional and and classical liberalism works but communists

are trying to subvert and destroy it and it's not are you're not saying that like hate and ignore the theory of queerness when you say queer theory it's actual indoctrinated tactic is that what the queer theory is based on the idea that there is no that there should be no gender there are gender abolitionists um and i i can't i don't want to try to get too uh too deep in explaining queer theory because i'm not well-versed enough to explain it to someone. I can understand it. I can identify it. But for me to articulate it properly, I would probably do a disservice. And we've got one more super chat.

Retro, how do you pronounce this? Retroclipse. There you go. Says, there are two sexes, zero genders and infinite personalities, I heard that from Billboard Chris, love you all and with that my friends, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends become a member at TimCast.com

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I am Elad Eliyahu. You can find me under that name um and i do all of my reporting alongside other great reporters on timcast news um on twitter so make sure you follow us at timcast news on twitter thanks for having me on i am phil labonte i am phil that remains on twitter i am phil that remains official on instagram the band is all that remains we're available on spotify apple music uh amazon music the old YouTube here. There you go. I'm Ian Crossland. You guys, thanks for keeping me honest in the chat, in the comments, in the video responses and everything.

It's great. Do Riley. Awesome, man. Thanks for bringing the economics. Thanks. I love talking about that stuff. So I hope we get to do that again. We could do this again.

Yeah, I'd love to. Anytime. Rolls down the road, man. Awesome. Awesome. I look forward to working with you tomorrow so that's gonna be fun yeah we're gonna skate tomorrow so that'll be fun kellen pdl yeah how hilarious sorry just like if you me and richie went to uh like freedom plaza

in dc they these people would lose their minds uh they'd be pretty bummed oh you know richie too he's been hanging out yeah no i love that that guy. What's up, Richie? Yeah, you guys should do it. That would be awesome. Follow me at KellenPDL. It's good hanging out with you guys tonight. All right, everybody. We will see you all in the clips we put up throughout the weekend,

and then we'll be back Monday. Thanks for hanging out.