Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #800 Daniel Penny INDICTED, Subway Hero Charged With Manslaughter In NYC w/BillBoard Chris

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

Tim, Ian, Seamus, & Serge join Billboard Chris to discuss a grand jury indicting Daniel Penny, a group of middle school students rejecting pride day and celebrating America instead, Ron DeSantis & Elon Musk slamming the white house for saying "our kids," and Bill Gates' new medicine to help cows stop farting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A grand jury has indicted Daniel Penny, the subway hero, on second-degree manslaughter charges. Now, an indictment is, you know, they say you can indict a ham sandwich. It just means there's enough evidence to go to trial. It doesn't mean he's guilty or anything like that, but it is a disgrace. Crime is getting worse in these cities, and the policies enacted by the people who have been historically running these cities for a long time is only making them worse. And we've got the big story coming out of coming out of San Francisco is the collapse of their downtown district. Several hotels have been surrendered to their lenders, and now the Westfield Mall has been surrendered to its lender. So we'll talk about how all of that

lumps together. Of course, I've been talking about it all day, civil war. And I'll just say it here as you know, we'll get into it later on in the show perhaps we might not but you know because we've talked about it quite a bit hillary clinton mocking donald trump as he's being indicted the first time a president has been federally indicted in the history of the united states joe biden is criminally charging his main political rival the gop front runner and it's unprecedented as an understatement. I often say, if you went back in time and told someone, hey, this thing would be happening at this point, you know, they'd say, oh, you're crazy. If you went back 10 years and said, you know, in seven years, there would be

street clashes all throughout the United States. There would be massive rioting. A guy with a communist tattoo on his neck would shoot and kill a conservative in the middle of the street in Portland. They'd say, you're nuts. It's never going to happen. If you told them that January 6th would happen, they'd say, you're nuts. If you went back three years ago, four years ago and said, the president will arrest his chief political rival, they'd say, well, is it going to be Trump? But people wouldn't believe it's going to happen. It's not going to get that bad. That's crazy. And now we are at that point. So, you know, we may end up getting into that. But I do want to talk a lot about what's going on with these bills targeting children, because we do have a very based story of kids in a school protesting against their school for trying to force them to engage in Pride Month at a time when we're seeing bills pass in California, being advanced in California, I should say, that would take your children away from you if you don't affirm their gender identity. So we'll talk about all that stuff.

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You'll even be able to call in if you've been a member for at least six months or you sign up at the $25 per month level. So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Billboard Chris. Thank you so much for having me, Tim. Who are you? What do you do? So I'm a dad of two girls from Vancouver, Canada. And for almost three years, I've been traveling around North America and now the world having conversations on the street about what I consider to be the greatest child abuse scandal in modern medicine history, which is the transition of our kids. My expression is there are two sexes, zero genders and infinite personalities. Our children are beautiful just as they are.

And no drugs or scalpels, no drugs or scalpels are needed to help them be their true selves. We should leave them alone, let them grow up. And so I have conversations about this. Right on. Well, thanks for joining. It should be fun. We got Seamus hanging out. Yeah. And thank you for coming on the show. Excited to talk to you. One thing I just want to mention this idea of a true self, right? It almost always means a false self when the left says that they're trying to change the child into something else. But I'm Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. I make cartoons there. We're going to be releasing one tomorrow. I think y'all are going to enjoy it.

It's about Donald Trump being put on trial. So if you guys want to go over there, check that out, support the channel, go to Freedom Tunes and hit subscribe. Yeah, I'm very excited to see you again, Chris. It's been a while, been maybe over a year, but you've been had some hot activity. I've been watching from the sidelines, so it's quite enjoyable. It's been wild. Yeah, man.

Can't wait to hear about it, dude. Got Mr. Dupre on my right over here yes uh i am here it's going to be a good one pleasure to meet you chris and uh i'm ready for the episode when you are too all right here's the first story we got grand jury indicts daniel penny in chokehold death of jordan neely neely's death was ruled a homicide according to the medical examiner they say the exact charges will not be unsealed until Penny appears in court at a later date, the sources said. Penny was initially arrested on second-degree manslaughter charge. Okay, so to clarify, I thought they had indicted him for that reason, so we don't know exactly

what he was indicted for, but he was arrested for second-degree manslaughter. Video showed Penny putting Neely in a chokehold. On May 1st, several witnesses observed Neely making threats. Assistant District Attorney Joshua Steinglass told the judge. Some witnesses told police that Neely was yelling and harassing passengers on the train, authorities said. Police source told ABC News that Penny was not specifically being threatened by Neely when he intervened and that Neely had not become violent and had not been threatening anyone in particular. Neely was homeless at the time of the incident. So there is another witness on the train who said that he was threatening all of their lives.

Saying he was going to seriously hurt them. And that she thought they were in serious danger. And that Penny saved their lives. But this is what's happening in big cities. So it's unsurprising to hear that they've actually issued this indictment. The fact that they arrested him in the first place. I have questions about these police officers. I have questions about where this country goes I have questions about, you know,

where this country goes if this is the case. We had that story that we talked about, and we'll get into more detail with San Francisco's downtown district being totally obliterated. And I want to show you this tweet. This is a tweet from Ellen Barkin. Ellen Barkin, I'm not familiar with, you know,

what her career is. I think she's a writer or something. But she just responded good. So you have people who live in New York who every day are facing serious threats of violence as the city is rife with crime. I Google

searched, and I hate to be a little crass, but I Google searched rape on New York subway. If you Google search that, you will see a ridiculous amount of stories almost every week, something like that happens. It is shocking to me that there are women in New York City with all of that going on every single week, and they're celebrating the fact

that someone tried to help people to save people from a violent, dangerous individual. Well, I mean, none of these people have any ability to look more than five seconds into the future. And their general worldview is if something makes me feel positive, happy emotions, it's good. If something makes me feel negative, sad emotions, it's bad. And so hearing about somebody intervening and saving other people's lives potentially, but knowing that that cost the aggressor their life might make somebody feel negative in the immediate short term. And so then they're going to try to find a rationalization for that negative knowing that that cost the aggressor their life might make somebody feel negative in the immediate short term and so then they're going to try to find a rationalization for that negative emotion because they don't want to challenge it they just want to stick with what they feel

and similarly when you have these stories of people being harmed of course you've mentioned this before tim that there are people who are pushed in front of the subway this never becomes a story right when there's completely senseless violence or when a woman is sexually abused in public, it doesn't make headlines the same way that a man defending citizens does. And that's for a very simple reason, because the media wants us to know that if we stand up for ourselves against violent criminals, we will be punished for it. I mean, this is by design. They want criminals to overrun the cities. They want to make life as untenable as possible because this is something Marxists virtually always do

when they're trying to upset the social order. Make things as unstable for people as possible. Just generally make cities unlivable, I suppose. It's like the ice cream shop in Seattle that's suing now because their business suffered a loss of revenue when the autonomous zone the capitol hill autonomous zone chas was established but the same ice cream shop was calling for them to defund the police that's right yeah that was asked for that was that was a good headline ice cream shop that supported defunding

police is now suing the city because the police didn't help him. It seems like, as I often say, it's a chaotic and destructive force that is its intention is just to destroy it. I can't I can't put myself in the shoes of these voters, of people in New York City, people like Ellen Barkin, who are like, I'm glad that people are stopped, are not allowed to defend themselves. It's like bizarro america you know it's like it's like intentionally nonsensical illogical and destructive yeah what the left has effectively done is it's gotten people to cheer for the prospect of defenselessness right so we're going to defund the police and then we're also going to prosecute you when you defend yourself, and we're going to do everything we possibly can to ensure it's as difficult as possible, if not impossible, for you to get a firearm to protect yourself or your family. And we know whenever the left is in control of anything, things don't get better for

people. I think one really hilarious example of this was the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest, or Autonomous Zone, depending on how you want to refer to it, where leftists literally took over several city blocks in Seattle. And not only did no one in the media call it an insurrection, but ironically enough, this was done in order to protest police violence. And then over the course of this being set up, two teenagers were shot in this autonomous zone that they set up. So they'll try to pursue these insane utopian solutions without actually knowing anything when they're trying to implement you know these solutions without actually doing anything that's going to improve life for people but just trying to shirk off the authority that's already there and then when people get get hurt they're never

held to account for it because they had good intentions and what else matters when i used to talk about the escalation of conflict in this country and the risk of civil war 2017 there's an article in new yorker i i went back over that article today because we just saw the president federally indicted by i'm sorry the former president uh future president perhaps uh very likely we saw donald trump indicted federally by Joe Biden. So this is a president targeting his political, his political rival. That's the highest level.

That's it. What I was saying back then was all of these conflicts that we're seeing, this political conflict, it will reach higher and higher levels of politics. And I was told that I was crazy and I was wrong. It wasn't going to happen. Now what we're seeing and the reason i bring this up in this context is the people that are celebrating a former marine

trying to save lives celebrating his criminal indictment arrest and charges when he was trying to protect people is it's it seems like opposite day. It seems like an inversion on American morals and values. It seems like literally bizarro America. Yeah, this is what happens when people are led by their emotions and not logic. When they've given away, like you look at the pictures of this NBC, is it NBC or ABC? ABC news article. There it shows Daniel Penny, bad guy.

I mean, he's got handcuffs on. He's got five o'clock shadow. Luke's got shadow on his face. Then you scroll down and you see the other guy, the homeless guy. Look at this. In this glamour picture. This is the guy that was screaming he was going to kill people on the subway. But man, you're not going to know that by looking at that beautiful picture of him with all that really nice lighting and the city in the background.

So I think what happened is this guy walked on the train it was like i'm gonna kill some and but he wasn't specifically targeting any one person and that's the that's the argument they're making but he was obviously yelling and making people uncomfortable enough that people felt like they had to intervene stop this guy before he started apparently they all went to like one side to avoid him like he was threatening that is common maybe not common new york behavior but that is like if you have ridden a new york subway you know when the guy starts screaming that smells like poop down the way you get up and you move otherwise he's gonna come sit on you well these are people who say that words are violence and misgendering somebody is incitement and then this guy is

screaming that he's not afraid to go back to jail and he'll kill somebody so and there was no need for anyone to step in and neutralize that threat it's it's patently ridiculous on its face and you're right ian they're showing uh they're showing nice looking pictures of the person who was an aggressor and they're showing pictures that make the defendant in this case look as unlikable as possible every single time there's a story of a police officer shooting somebody in the news, the media has this unwritten rule. Never show the mugshot.

Never show a picture of this person in police custody. Always show them when they were younger. Always show them in their most attractive moment. And then this guy's on trial, and of course they have to represent him as some kind of violent maniac and not someone who did something reasonable and tried to help people.

So they're showing you pictures where it doesn't look good. It's they show a photo of Penny in handcuffs looking at scowling, right? They show the perpetrator, the person who is the aggressor with a glamour shot and city lights. It's probably 10 years old, too. Yeah, absolutely. My question now. I'm sorry. This once.

So this. Yeah, it feels intentional. It is. It feels like the media intentionally wants to gut and rip apart and destroy. And the legal system is playing the lapdog of the media, whether it wants to or not. They don't want their careers to be ruined. I bet Daniel Penny's lawyer was like, don't say anything in public about it. But I'm wondering if Daniel Penny did.

I haven't seen it yet was it an emotional plea because if he hasn't captured people's emotions yet i feel like he's doomed to the legal system but if he can get out ahead of it and start making internet videos nope then maybe like the guy sorry there's questions about whether or not people in new york on a jury will actually convict him because they're probably going to be like there will be regular people saying i experienced this no way we can't convict him because they're probably going to be like, there will be regular people saying, I experienced this. No way we can't convict this guy. But I have a feeling that after a few of the riots and Antifa smashing windows and setting fires, after a couple of those, then the jury will go in under armed protection and just say, I just want to be left alone.

I'll do whatever you say. Yep. Yep. I mean, there's a question that the United States has to ask itself. And I'm taking this from a conversation that I had on my podcast the other day, and it actually didn't come from my guest. It came from him paraphrasing a book that he'd read recently, which unfortunately I don't remember the name of, but you really have to ask yourself the question, who are you rooting for? Right? And whenever you look at these stories, whenever you analyze anything the media is talking about, whenever you're looking at a public policy prescription you have to ask

who is this rooting for who is this helping who do we care about well take a look at this story from the new york times westfield gives up gives up san francisco mall signaling more pain ahead retailers have been fleeing the city's downtown and some analysts say there may be more to come it's an issue facing various downtowns around the United States. I love how they try and, once again, obfuscate what's going on. It's affecting everyone. Yeah, no, the Hilton and Park 55 massive hotels in center San Francisco being surrendered to lenders and a massive mall, which is several hundred thousand square feet being surrendered, is particularly unique to San Francisco. Maybe it's all of the human feces littered about the streets or the rampant open-air drug use but this city has been gutted and destroyed and the question to ask is should we be happy or sad about this should we gloat ha ha look

what your policies have wrought why even though these policies are destroying these cities you still have these liberals cheering for it. So maybe we just say, well, okay, then you're getting what you want, I suppose. They are. I still think there's reason to be sad about it because this is something that is being destroyed by people who didn't build it. And that's always very important to remember. This city was built up by their parents and grandparents and great grandparents.

And then they came along and they tore it down. And part of the reason they tore it down was out of envy. There are people who have worked harder than me, who have made more beautiful things than I've made or could even hope to make or am interested in making, and that makes me mad and I want to rip it all apart. And so when they start to do that by implementing insane policies that say things like, you can steal and we won't prosecute you as long as it's less than $900 worth of theft that's occurred and you rewire people's thinking into this very insane short-term paradigm that rewards people for taking and

not for making, then this is the exact scenario you end up with. You get destruction and nobody builds anything. Why would they? You've only punished them for it. Can we go back to when they passed that law in San Francisco where they were like, or I don't know if it was a law or a policy or whatever. Anything under $990 or whatever, you would not be criminally charged if you stole. And then we immediately started seeing videos of people filling garbage bags full of merchandise. Well, I guess because none of those items equal up to $1,000.

So they would just start dumping entire shelves into bags, hop on their bike, and then ride out and everyone just shrugs why wouldn't these people keep doing this if they get arrested they get let out a couple hours later and they can go right back and they do this 20 times yep and then we have these employees at lululemon who reported on or tried to stop the they just filmed it they just filmed it yeah and they got fired just for filming because the policies don't intervene they went outside like father i'm filming or something like that well right i've mentioned this a hundred times in the show but anytime someone's doing something degenerate immoral or destructive we have to engage in every level of socio-economic analysis to excuse their behavior they were only stealing from that store because we didn't spend enough

public money on the library in their neighborhood or they didn't have a good enough public school but then when these people film someone who's stealing something from their store which is an abundantly reasonable reaction to people committing an act of theft in front of you they're evil they have to be fired there's no mercy we don't engage in any kind of analysis of their behavior we just dispense with them you look at aoc cheering or demanding the criminal charge the charges for saying that, oh, it was murder. So a murder happened in public. How is he not getting it?

It's wild. They're creating the problem. They're exacerbating the crime. And then they're trying to imprison and destroy the lives of anybody who tries to protect themselves. They genuinely don't want you living in these cities. And where does this all come from? We have communism being rebranded in Western culture.

Yeah. A lot of this stems back to Karl Marx. It's the same policies. It's the theory that there is class warfare, there's an oppressor class, and there are the oppressed. And a lot of people, when you're talking about this with normal people, it's not probably good to talk about communism because they look at you sideways like you have a hole in your head and you're some conspiracy theorist but marxism has been rebranded to be equity and up in canada where i'm from we even have the conservative leaders calling for an equitable society well equity is just equality of outcome that's not what we want we want equality of opportunity if martin luther king were alive today they'd be calling him the black

face of white supremacy just as they did with larry elder in california because he was calling for equality of opportunity but he would be aghast at what's happening today i mean but we're also talking about the civil rights era back in the 50s and stuff so he's fairly conservative on a lot of issues and uh i don't know what his religious background was obviously he was their king yeah obviously he's christian but i don't know which which sex is baptist baptist yeah i mean just that alone makes him a fascist right a christal fascist right if you're a christian today you're a christal fascist i get called it all the time people assume i'm a christian i'm not i'm basically agnostic but i deal with these crazy people all the time these violent people i've been arrested

twice after getting assaulted just because it's easier to get rid of me than it is to get rid of all the crazy people. I've been saying that. We had a Press for Truth. Dan Dix was at a protest. Do you know the story? That's me that he was filming. Oh, he was filming you. And then they pulled him out. I'm the guy that got assaulted. And then they removed him.

They said, you gotta get out of here. And they pulled him out and threatened him with arrest. Oh, that's happened to him as well. Right. He was was sorry i'm confused because he was recently just interviewing me when i was assaulted and then they threatened you with arrest or did arrest you no they the main police officer who was there to investigate a previous assault that already occurred smiled as i was getting assaulted wow and this video had 80 million views it went all around the world wow dan was just a couple months ago. But I've also been arrested after getting assaulted twice in Vancouver. Dan was filming a protest.

They attacked him. The police then come in and they say, you have to leave. And he's like, me? He's like, they attacked me. And he's like, don't care. You get out now or you're going to be arrested. It happened. It happens.

I've been telling people... It happens to street preachers as well in Canada. The police are going... Well, look at that preacher in Reading, Pennsylvania. Do you see this story? No. There was a pride event happening, and a guy was in the street,

and he started to quote a Bible verse, and the cop just grabs him and arrests him. Oh, I did see that. Because the cops are thinking it is easier to arrest one person than deal with a riot. That's right. Yeah.

Absolutely. But it's good. It's great when they do that because this backfires. Backfires every time. I got charged with causing a disturbance after getting assaulted by a union rep, actually, of the British Columbia government. And I was hoping it would go to trial because this would have been a slam dunk victory. But of course, one day before my course hearing, the charge gets dismissed.

In the meantime, I was banned from walking on all these streets in the middle of downtown Vancouver. But all it does is bring in more support for the cause. So it backfires every time and we have to i mean we have to expose this every time but we have to also take it and use it in our favor as we have been doing and it's working people are waking up finally to what's going on in western culture yeah uh you you just worry though and i think there's kind of an intellectual and governmental arms race occurring which is the left is trying to become as powerful as possible and get as much leverage over the average person before people wake up to what's happening, right? Ideally for them, everyone hasn't woken up to what they're doing and what

they're trying to do until it's already too late and they have all of the power. So we have to get as many people as possible informed before we get to the point where they're literally able to do whatever they want and it's getting close i mean it really is getting very close and my biggest concern for all of this is the universities because that's where these kids are really getting indoctrinated yeah yes a lot of them have left as parents or whatever but they get into these universities and these are indoctrination stations now i disagree okay i think it's tick took yeah i think it's that for sure yeah it's in high schools too especially for the younger kids i think kids are starting to to push back but i

think you know i've had this debate with uh dr peter bogosian who shares a similar view to yours that this this stuff originates in universities and i think a component of it does but i think social media algorithms have perpetuated this the reason why we're seeing so many companies now backtrack and panic even like you know everyone's saying oh esg is driving this stuff and i'm like i don't think so i think this stuff is driving esg or there's some correlation but not a direct causation target saying they wanted to hide their pride merchandise in some stores the bottom line is everything and if their cost-benefit analysis is we make money when we do pride stuff they'll keep doing it now that the bud light thing happened they're starting to say we actually are going to lose a lot of money if we

do this so just stop doing it what's the point so i think that's actually a very promising sign i do think there's something turning around here and i think we are on a major path towards victory yeah i've been hearing some crazy stuff like people who are completely outside of politics posting things on YouTube and stuff and saying like, hey, man, I'm not cool with this. That's me. That was me. Yeah.

I used to be in the investment arena. I used to have a real job before I was a crazy billboard person standing out on the street getting assaulted and arrested. Crazy billboard person. It amazed me that Wall Street essentially was captured by communism because that's as capitalist as you get.

Yet we have ESG coming through the back door. And you mentioned ESG. And why is ESG capturing Wall Street? Well, ultimately, that even comes down to communism because you have firms like BlackRock managing this $30 billion pension fund or whatever it is in California. And you get the leftist politicians pressuring BlackRock that if you don't start pushing our agenda, we're not going to let you manage our gigantic pension fund. So ultimately, they bow down to some of these pressures, and they start, in turn, putting these pressures on the companies that they invest in, otherwise they won't invest in them. And when it comes to investing, it's all about the institutional investors that these corporations care about. They

don't care about the retail investor, it's all about the institutional investors that these corporations care about they don't care about the retail investor it's all about the institutions and so kind of through this back door they've gotten in there but all this is coming from so many directions it's the wef it's the who it's the u.s right well i mean the activist organizations exist but what i see happening is when it was about what's socially acceptable and what's not before the internet racism is not socially acceptable any like most bigotry hate speech other stuff people are like hey we don't want to do that because it can cost us money if i'm selling donuts at my donut shop the last thing we want is for someone to feel unwelcome to stop buying from us that simple component along with the 1964 civil rights act which enshrined civil rights

created algorithmic pressures you end up with social media running two different worlds right away. One was nationalistic, one was progressive. The progressive one seemed to be more socially acceptable because it was in line with movies and Hollywood and things like that. The nationalistic one seemed to be conservative, so it's no good. So what do they do? Facebook almost immediately starts having conservative stories pulled from their trending news tab. That was the big breaking revelation from Gizmodo. Then they start from like 2007, 2008, start actively promoting as much as possible things that were socially acceptable. So companies started mass producing articles that just played the social justice game because that's what was getting promoted and that's what made them money so if you've got a kid who's nine years old in 2009

and they just get on facebook for the first time even though that's what you're supposed to be 13 but let's say they their parent got him a cell phone and they find a way to get on it all they see every day are videos of black people being beaten by police why because it made money for corporations that's the only reason. Media websites made money off of it. That kid, nine years old, it's the only thing he sees. Now he's 23.

His whole world growing up, the only thing he ever saw was these kinds of videos. Then you end up with that video where it was Nuance Bro. I don't know if you saw this one. Nuance Bro is having a Twitter space with this Gen Z for Change guy.

And the Gen Z for Change guy said 30% of black people are killed each year. Like, just by the police. By the police. A number so insane. Nuance Bro is like, that means all black people would be dead in three years or so. Are you nuts? And then the kid goes, would you agree that 15 to 20 percent is more is more fair and then they're just dying laughing like have you lost your mind no they never had it that's why long

story short i think it's the algorithms that are manipulating these kids into believing this fictitious version of the world and then you end up with a lot of people saying they're delusional or they're crazy and i'm like no no no no no there's a difference someone may be suffering a a disability a an ailment developmental uh disability is absolutely different from a kid growing up and being lied to their whole life yes the problem with society today so we think we're this advanced society i said this on a video the other day that took off a little bit when talking about the transition to kids we think we're this advanced society technologically and all that we are. Yet psychologically, we're the same as cavemen used to be. Our minds are very malleable. We're prone to groupthink. We're prone to mass psychoses. And now you bring in social media and these algorithms, and it's so easy to manipulate vast swaths of the population.

And that is what's happening. And you say, this isn't necessarily coming from the universities, but all these people working at these social media companies, a lot of them became radicalized and got pushed further left while they were going to university. And then they get these jobs. Facebook was built at a university by Mark Zuckerberg while he was at the university. But why is it,

you know, pre-2016, Twitter is the free speech wing of the free speech party. And then all of a sudden it starts to change. That think may may have been the result of the election of donald trump you see that video where google executives are crying saying i can't believe we let this happen and things like that why is it that in the early days of these uh these these websites these media companies that were getting traction the one i often cite is mike.com which is you know woke progressive when it started it was ron paul libertarian because it wasn't and these are

the same people who went to university who started these companies at the time held very different views and then it changed i think the reason is over a long enough period of time if the pressure is on conservative view bad liberal view good then you end up with hyperpolarization towards the liberal and the banning of conservative ideas. I don't think it's anything to do with universities. Universities theoretically should take generations to indoctrinate a society. You're there for a few years, you come out, and then you're dumped right back into society. Spending a few years in an indoctrination center, you come out, you have those ideas, you try to then apply that pressure to the rest of the country which is millions hundreds of millions

of people you may you will hold those views but it's not going to be as pronounced because you can only go so far but why are conservatives so hesitant to to express their views because i go to universities and hang out on campus for hours days at a time and i have these conversations about child transition or whatever and i have a sign it's very basic it says children cannot consent to puberty blockers. The conservatives have to hide their views. They come up to me in silence. I can hardly ever show our conversations.

Well, that's just cowardice. But this is just the way it's set up. You're allowed to have these radical leftist views, but you're not allowed to have a normal view. We call them conservative views. They're not even conservative. They're just normal. But this is exactly what I was explaining, right?

It used to be back in the day that all of our information and our narratives came from television or radio, newspaper, but mostly TV. That's where we absorbed everything. And so you had a small handful of networks that dictated what was. So we all basically agreed on what was. It was socially acceptable. Now what is allowed to be on the Internet is what is socially acceptable. And now what is allowed to be on the Internet is actually changing. It gets heavily censorious. It goes back and forth. YouTube changed its policies. Of course, these big tech companies

have gone very, very woke. Elon Musk buying Twitter has started to change the game on what is allowed. Rumble's emergence has started to change the game on what is allowed because these companies know that they'll collapse. What I think is first cowardice and bravery. They don't mean that you are or are not scared. Bravery is when you are scared, you act regardless of your fear. Cowardice is you don't, you do not act because of your fear, right? And, and, and I'm not saying to be a dick to people. I'm saying it is, people take, people are offended by being called cowards because it has a negative connotation. But if you are too scared to say how you really feel, how you, how you really, which, because you, you know, then that's cowardice. And if you are offended by being

called that, that I think that's internal to you, right? I think someone who refuses to act in the face of fear and danger, despite knowing that they must and that there's important things to be done, is cowardice. Seeing someone facing like, you know, the enemy troops are coming in and they drop their weapon and they run full speed, knowing they needed to defend their homeland or whatever. We call that cowardice. Bravery and heroism is knowing that you might die in the great battle in World War II, but you charge those beaches anyway because you have to.

You have no choice. That's how we define these things. I feel bad for a lot of these people who know that they could lose their jobs, could destroy their lives, could destroy their families. But the reality is if every single person just spoke up, there would be no power there anyway. Right. The issue I believe is that majority of people are only acting based on what they feel is socially acceptable. What is the quote unquote right side of history? And the reason why now we are seeing companies back down with the because of Bud Light, you know, we're saying Starbucks, the workers union saying they're being told to take pride

flags, pride decorations down. But the company is denying it. I don't believe the company, the major corporation is worried about their stock price or their bottom line. The workers are ideological and there's videos of the decorations being taken down so that seems to be more likely but you know who knows who knows all of a sudden now we're seeing prominent personalities come out and say hey i'm not okay with this more people are starting to speak up why the bud light effect showed people mathematically and definitively there is a large

faction of people in this country who do not like what's happening when the sales drop by 30 and it persists for now two and a half months you start to see people say is is it cool now to do this well here's what happens the people who started making videos about bud light started getting millions of hits now it's definitive now if you're a regular person you don't know what's up and what's down. All you know is, hey man, when they make fun of Bud Light, they get millions of views. I want millions of views. That's the social pressure

and the quote unquote right side of history. Now we're starting to see a major shift. And with movements, it's never the leaders who are the most important people. It's always the first followers because those first followers make it okay for other people to come along and

that's exactly what we're seeing today in canada this last week we had the biggest protest against gender ideology in canadian history led by myself and a student a 17 year old boy who got kicked out of his catholic school because he stood up for some girls in his school who didn't want boys in their bathroom and he refuses to yield with to his scientific factual belief that there are two sexes so he got kicked out of catholic school but he's leading a movement with students and now the muslims are getting involved christians were finally coming out we had hundreds of people there whereas two years ago i couldn't get two people to come out on the street and we're seeing this all over north america now and it's not going to stop. Let me jump to this story from the Post Millennial to give everybody a good bit of optimism.

Quote, my pronouns are USA. Massachusetts Middle School tries to make children wear rainbow clothing for pride. Students revolt, wear red, white, and blue. This video is fascinating, where you have parents furious that these kids

were saying no to Pride Day. Some kids were chanting that their pronouns were usa they were wearing red white and blue and pride decorations had been torn down parents said the hate starts at home this is fascinating so kids at a school revolted against what the school is trying to impose on them and other parents came in and blamed the parents of those kids. I got to tell you, that's fascinating to me. Kids acting out and you're furious and upset. But you know what is? You know what is amazing?

Is that we're seeing more and more of this. There was another video where kids are in a classroom and they play a pride video. And the kids all boo and groan and say, why are you showing this to us? And the teacher threatens them with a quote unquote Saturday school if they don't stop acting inappropriately. I think the kids are all right. I think this is cause for hope. The kids are all right. The kids are more than all right.

And I've known this for a long time because I'm out on the streets and they come up to me. But I'm going to read you guys a message I got from a grade 10 student today. Hi, Chris. Thanks for getting back so soon. Oh, here it is.

I'm in 10th grade. This has to stop. I'm tired of going to school, thanks for getting back so soon. Oh, here it is. I'm in 10th grade. This has to stop. I'm tired of going to school scared of getting pressed because I said something bad in a language they made up. It's not fair that they're insecure teenagers whose parents didn't give them enough attention. Who knows if that's true? But as kids, why do I have to pay for it? And he told me that in advance of this protest we had last week, over the PA system to the whole school, they said that if kids didn't get support for pride or for transition, that these kids would be likely to commit suicide or have self-harm. A child said this over the PA system to the whole

school. This is the propaganda that these kids are receiving everywhere. And when they hear this a thousand times a year, they believe it. And so when people like us come along and talk common sense, they've been so indoctrinated by these school systems to believe that kids are coming to harm that they think we're the devil. But they're planning a walkout. The students now are planning a walkout next week against their own school. Where is this at? This is in Ottawa, Canada. Oh, wow. Wow. But this is happening all across the country. In Nova Scotia on June 1st, 33% of students didn't go to school. The parents withheld them to protest Pride Month. Whoa, really?

That's massive. I mean, Canada is in serious trouble. Big time. Yeah. But we're fixing it. I wipe people all the time because I have faith in humanity. And I know that we're going to get the truth out there. But yes, I think we're probably the worst in the world. If you, like, children especially have a kind of a,

I don't know, just a reputation for being like, why am I having trouble with the words? You know, like to say no to revolt against authority. There's this whole like punk counterculture. Yeah, whatever's popular. Children are great young people because their brains are still like very open to seeing what's real and what's not.

Now, there are kids that will get manipulated. But I tell you, if a school for a year force-fed kids meatloaf and all they did was put meatloaf propaganda all over the school, you better believe that half a bunch of those kids are going to be like, screw meatloaf. I don't want anything to do with meatloaf. I hate meatloaf. And then you're going to see that with pride. It's not that it's because they hate transgenderism, gay or bi.

They don't want to be indoctrinated. Exactly went too far popular thing i've been bamboozled by this 20 something generation who love government authority wear masks you're evil for not wearing a mask get jabbed do everything the government tells you that's what all these 20 somethings are doing yeah but i'm seeing a generational shift with younger kids they're tired of this. And it's beautiful. Well, I wonder if it's because, as we often mention, conservatives are more likely to have kids. And I think one of the reasons

the left is so panicked and desperately trying to indoctrinate schools is because they know they don't have kids. 20 years ago, it was like four to three. For every four conservative kids,

there were three liberal kids. And this means that voting patterns are going to shift very very very heavily now people on the right often say well they're going to bring in illegal immigrants for that or whatever and i'm like yeah but they can't vote they they can change the census in a decade which will favor certain urban populations that do this but in the short term they will not win if this is the case right older people are are passing on younger people are entering voting age and there's more younger conservatives than than left conservative i'm sorry than left kids and so they their only option as the saying goes socialists don't have kids they

have yours that's their only option yes and i've had probably 15 000 conversations out on the street my number one allies i hate the word ally people who support me the most are black men yeah it's so rare for a black man to have an issue with my message which is that we shouldn't be transitioning kids they all agree with me the women too yeah and hispanic communities and they are they are conservative when it comes to family they like the nuclear family yeah well you know but they've all been taught to believe that Hispanic communities. And they are conservative when it comes to family. They like the nuclear family. But they've all been taught to believe that they have to vote Democrat as though Democrats are representing their interests, and they're not. And we're going to see a shift in this

as we've already seen happen in Florida. It is a fascinatingly white liberal family thing to not have families. You know, if you look at, we've talked about Shabbat and Jewish families and how powerful that is in protecting your kids, your family, and your community. From Friday sundown to Saturday sundown, you are with your family.

You're not working. You're not, you know, they take Sabbath very seriously. And even for Christians going to church, these form protective barriers for your community from outside influences that seek to destroy you. But if you look at a lot of like immigrant families, if you look at, as you mentioned, black families, they're very much so. They say that the church is heavily involved in politics, although it's not as true as it used to be. It is fascinating that it seems to be more so white liberal families that are opposed to family in general. Yeah, well, it's, I was going to touch on this, and you sort of mentioned this, Tim, but these are the views of a very specific subsection of affluent white people. This is not something that the black community is calling for, the Hispanic community is calling for,

and it's not something the vast majority of white people are calling for either. It's just a very, very small minority of very affluent people. And when you look at BLM and the fact that they've tied it up so closely with this gender nonsense, and they've even put a black and brown stripe on the pride flag to try to link these perverse sexual lifestyle choices to being a minority in this country becomes obvious that they really know that they have to try as hard as they can to get the support of these groups. And so they're going to try to do that just by claiming it's the case and shouting you down if you disagree with them, having a few spokespeople who are black or Hispanic, when in reality, those communities, they don't like this, right? They don't want to be called latinks.

They don't want you trying to trans their kid. They're not taking their kid to drag queen story hour. This is something white suburban mothers with too much time and money think makes them special. That's all. That's affluenza? I mean, I thought it was a joke. What was that guy's name? Affluenza was no regard for consequence.

Some kid, rich kid hit uh and killed somebody drunk driving i believe and they let him out and they were like wow his problem is that he's too affluent he's got affluenza yeah that was an actual thing like it's not an actual medical condition but they purported like it was and i'm wondering if that's this is actually affluenza when people get too rich and white and i'm white people get too rich they got too white too rich and too like what's the what would be the word not too white but too like socially stable complacent yeah complacent because it's like oh you don't have to work to get ahead in society they just start looking in word for problems it's it's that uh it's that meme of the guy he tweets uh in the and he lives

in los angeles and he tweets yay they're riot it up. Look, like watch the building burn. Then the next day he tweets, oh no, they're coming to my neighborhood. Get out of here. You beasts. Yeah. As soon as the party of empathy, as soon as the problem is out there, you realize all this inner crap is not that important. Look, James O'Keefe did this.

It was fantastic. They went to, I believe it was James who did this. They went to people's houses and they said that they were people who were in favor of gun control. And then the people in the house were like, oh, that's fantastic. Like, do you support gun control? Like, I do. Absolutely.

And they were like, you don't own guns, right? And they're like, no, who does? Like, can we put a sign in front of your house saying proud, proud gunless home? Like, we oppose guns. And every person goes, well, no, no, you can't do that. Like, you're inviting criminals. Like, what do you mean? I thought you were in favor of gun control.

That's the perfect example the wealthy uppity people who are protected by police will complain about police because they don't see the problem then later on they go oh heaven's me oh how can this be like that uh was it the ice cream shop in it was at seattle i think you mentioned they say defund the police and then they got it they start losing money and now they're suing the city because the police didn't help them yes i've had police called on me 150 times always by police people who say let's defund the police yeah every time they're the first to call the police as soon as they see an opinion they don't like no it's violence you know well there's there's a certain kind of person this happens to but i find this is also true of people who uh are wealthy and particularly when they're

very wealthy to the point where they will never have to worry about their material needs for the rest of their life, there is an increased emphasis on reputation and other people's perception of you, which I think would be considered extremely unusual if it were seen in a poor or working class person. And then once you no longer have to concern yourself with having your basic needs met, how you look to other people becomes much more important. And so what happens is you want to be seen as high status within your community, but everyone else is already X Y or Z social cause and even if you're not necessarily doing anything that actually helps people if you claim that you are if you say you know you you're contributing to some cause like BLM which doesn't actually do anything besides destroy but purports to help uh black people and and others who are disenfranchised then you can get this unearned social capital.

And I think that's what matters to them more than money in many instances. Let's talk about the White House here. We have the story from the Daily Mail. They are not your kids. DeSantis and Musk slam White House for pride tweet celebrating LGBTQI community and quote our kids that are part of it. In the post, it says these are our kids, not somebody else's kids. They're all our kids that are part of it. In the post, it says, these are our kids, not somebody else's kids. They're all our kids.

That is unbelievable. I mean, I shouldn't say it's unbelievable. It's predictable. But that is like, they're just openly saying the quiet part loud. It's obvious because they're not, liberals are not having kids. They're aborting their kids. And in many instances now, they are sterilizing or increasing the the likelihood of sterilization of these kids but what kind of creep says that right

of someone who knows that their political faction doesn't have voters yes they're not just saying this is my point they're not just saying it you're right they're acting on it but if anyone else like if somebody came up to you in public and said those aren't your kids those are our kids how would you respond to that i would show a picture of the communist meme with drake pointing to go like this to my kids and then pointing to our kids i would call the police yeah if someone said your kids are mine yeah i'm calling 911 your kids are mine i would i'm not sure if i'm able to say on air what the i would ask i would ask if they live in that but i would ask if they live in a house made of candy they're passing legislation in all sorts of blue states to make this a reality

right where they can take your kids away from you if you don't agree that your girl is a boy that was california has a lot of something through the house of representatives i think into their senate hasn't gone through their state house it's now advanced to their state senate in california and they're saying that if you don't affirm your child that uh they could they could restrict visitation or take custody of your kids yeah they consider it child abuse they're already a sanctuary state so that if there's a custody dispute going on in texas for example and this mom wants to transition the kid she can take the kid to cal, and California will now ignore all court orders, subpoenas, arrest warrants, or custody agreements so that this child can be transitioned, or a runaway as well. They'll hide the runaway from the parents and they won't return them home.

They'll ignore the laws of the home state, which should violate the Constitution. This needs to be challenged. And this is reminiscent to me of the American Civil War. When they had the runaway i think was the runaway slave act you had uh states in the north saying that we will absolutely not abide by these uh by this law and the south saying then why are we a part of this union southern states were like if we have a law then and you don't follow it what's the point now the circumstances of course are different the moral questions are different i'm wondering what the major catalyst will be maybe it's abortion abortion seems to be a direct 14th amendment uh question in this country and uh

14th amendment violation in most regards so i wonder if that'll be the catalyst but i also kind of think you know i don't know if the uh transgender kid stuff will be the catalyst and it's because i listened to audio from matt walsh of a father saying they took his kid away and we're putting her on cross-sex hormones and it's like he's upset about it and he doesn't want it to happen but that's the extent of the action that he's taking right i feel like when it came to john brown and when it came to slavery you had active conflict for a decade of people killing each other over this stuff that you don't really have right now in any of these social issues yeah well i think there's a few so i hear what you're

saying about this not necessarily being a potential catalyst for massive conflict but i also think that when you're talking about people's children it's just a question of how many kids you do this to before somebody gets violent. It's going to happen. You're right. I guess they haven't landed on those people who are going to respond violently to them, but they will eventually.

No, no, no. I'm not talking about civilians. I'm talking about government. You're talking about at the state level. At what point does the federal government or law enforcement say you must return the child under the code of law and then california says no and then troops will have to be sent to california to enforce the law when when we're you know so i you know people get bought for all sorts of things and we definitely don't of things and we definitely

don't want that and we need we we want civility we want peace and at this point i think violence actually just empowers them because it terrifies people and they're able to use terrorism as a weapon yeah i'm saying like at what point does texas say we we we are demanding the return of this man's child to california and california says we're not going to answer your subpoena like you said they're going to they're going to ignore subpoenas warrants etc at what point does is how can there be an intervention does texas then petition the federal government saying we need federal assistance to to enforce these laws between states what will likely occur i'd imagine is a lawsuit under original jurisdiction going to the supreme court the supreme court might

just reject it outright and say we're not going to listen to this. And then you're going to have Texas be like, we're sending the Rangers. We're going to send law enforcement to California to retrieve this man's child because we have the force of law behind us and these people have committed crimes. California is now harboring criminals. What point do states actually send law enforcement after each other? Yeah, that's a good question. How does this all go? How does society go? So this is a big question. Because it seems we're so divided,

almost irreparably so. And each political party, really Stoke division, the media of course Stoke's division, it almost seems irreparable. I think we need an extremely strong and truthful and compassionate

leader who can unite but that's almost impossible as well with this social media age but i'm an eternal optimist and i do think it's possible but i don't really see that trump winning is he a uniter there's no uniting there's only um weeding out corruption so was reconstruction after the civil war in the united states uniting the country now you can argue it was but it was brutal i mean uh getting rid of slavery i think was paramount and it was good that it was done but if you hear the stories about how the civil war went down what the north was doing in the south i mean it's brutality it's untold brutality i mean it's it's it's horrifying uh sherman's march to the sea the ransacking of civilian property the destruction of everything in his

in in in his path just because they're like we're going to win and we're going to destroy it's scorched earth if donald trump gets elected and these states openly defy the federal government insurrection he will then cite everything they've said about january 6th and insurrection as his justification for sending the troops in to enforce the law in these jurisdictions as as the federal government dictates now the funny thing is the right who is currently saying we want smaller government the government's oppressive will find themselves behind a more oppressive government what worries me is is that the trojan horse to get federalized a federalized united states in that the federal government now is local law enforcement. We've talked about this during the Summer of Love riots. We don't want the federal

government to be local law enforcement. We want states to have their own jurisdictions, especially when it comes to things like Roe v. Wade, the states have the rights to decide what their laws are. If California is allowing the kidnapping of children and they will defy subpoenas and the rule of law outright because they assert that their morals, their legal code supersedes anyone else's, then the only option is for federal law enforcement to intervene to uphold these laws. If Texas issues a subpoena, the federal government says, like, we're going to have to make sure you can't do these things. So let's talk about Portland, because Portland is, to a certain degree, a lawless society. Police have orders to stand down if Antifa are committing violent assaults against people.

Now, for me, we cannot live in a society like that. We cannot allow crazy, mentally disturbed anarchists to determine how our society is run. But this is how it's being run in Portland. So recently I went to Portland State University, stood outside with my signs, with Peter Boghossian, Dr. Peter Boghossian and the incredible James Klug.

I don't know if you know him. Yeah, of course. He's amazing. Dude's a pro. But we specifically went there because that's the one place, the one place in the United States of America I was a little afraid to go to. And you cannot let fear stop you from doing anything. So we went there, we planned it out. We didn't announce when we were going beforehand because of course Antifa will then have time to mobilize because you can get killed

there. But we went there in the morning. We stayed for a few hours, got amazing footage, and we left. And I think we showed people that we don't need to let these anarchists tell us where and when we can have conversations, which is what we do. They're not anarchists. But why doesn't the federal government move in there? Well, so just to clarify, they're not anarchists. They're hardcore authoritarians and communists.

Right. Well, they think they're communists. Put them in an actual communist system and they'll revolt against that as well. They'll lie to you and tell you they're anarchists because the idea of anarchy literally means lacking or without authority. That's how they lie to you. They come to you and say, we don't want to be in charge. We're anarchists. We think there shouldn't be a big government. By the way, do as we say or else. They're tankies. They're commies. They're authoritarians all the way. But it comes from the mayor and the governor there, this lawlessness. So do you think the federal government should intervene to restore the rule of law? Yes.

I don't disagree, but I also think that can lead down a dark path when you have people who live in California and say, these are our rules. These are the laws that we've passed. And now the federal government comes in and with National Guardsmen patrolling neighborhoods, military police, and federal law enforcement, federal, I guess they'd be civilian law enforcement, telling people that those laws don't matter anymore.

That the way they voted doesn't matter. Imagine the inverse. But if you're going to be a state in this union, you have to abide by some collective agreement. But they have their own within their states right they keep voting for this they're celebrating daniel petty being penny being indicted imagine the inverse joe biden sending national guard into oklahoma to enforce abortion at any point saying your laws violate national order. So we are going to enforce

like the point is, you may think you're right. Certainly, we here on this show have our own opinions. And I think we are right. But if you zoom out and look at the picture holistically, you can simply say faction A, faction B, and what powers can they wield? And if we assert that we are right, so we should be able to go into their state to enforce our rules on them, regardless of how they voted, they would assert the same right. And then we just hope that we win. Yeah, I look, I understand there's a lot to this and it's not just. But I'm not saying I'm not saying we shouldn't. I'm saying Trump should get elected and Trump should go in on federal law and supersede

these governments. They're violating the law in Oregon. It's not like they're following their own rules. They're violating the law and no one is doing anything to bring these criminals to justice. They won't even stop them committing the crimes. They won't even stop them assaulting people when the assaults are happening. The police will just stand and watch it. They'll arrest you if you stop the assault. There's a video of cops in Seattle. They'll arrest me for getting assaulted.

Yeah, yeah. There's a guy being threatened by a bunch of Antifa with weapons and the cops run up and grab and arrest the victim. It happens all the time.

And then they apologize to Antifa saying sorry about that. Yeah. So yes, I think that, you know, I'm not an anarchist.

I'm not a big Al Libertarian. I lean Libertarian on most issues. But I believe the big questions about how government is supposed to a speedy trial or a jury of your peers and uh innocent until proven guilty he may not understand why he holds those values but if you study history if you study the traditions of the united states and where this morality comes from and the legal system going back to the magna carta etc you'll be like wow these people were all very christian and learned these lessons from the bible i'm not saying you need the bible i mean seamus may disagree i'm just Nicaragua, et cetera, you'll be like, wow, these people were all very Christian and learned these lessons from the Bible. I'm not saying you need the Bible. I mean, Seamus may disagree. I'm just

saying that there's a route to where this morality comes from. And if you go to Eastern countries like China, their roots on morality are very, very different. So that brings me to the question of how do we successfully run a country, the United States, when we're dealing with a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic? Well, the multicultural democracy is basically breaking into our constitutional republic and trying to supplant and subvert it. We must defend ourselves from that. And that means that if we have a moral worldview and a moral framework that for the most part we agree upon, we act upon that, not under this guise of codified logical legal code. I come to this conclusion because we were talking about Florida

and parental rights. Does a parent have a right to determine what medical treatment their kids do get or do not get? Do you think parents have the absolute right? Yes, with very few exceptions. So where I'm from, British Columbia, we have a law called the Infants Act, which essentially states that parental approval is not needed for any medical procedure at any age, provided the doctorinologist, a man named Brendan Hirsch, sent him a letter saying he could be a friend and advisor to his own 13-year-old daughter, but he couldn't stop her from receiving testosterone.

Now, the only way that law would ever make sense for me is in the case of maybe a Jehovah's Witness who won't allow a blood transfusion because their child's going to die and they'll let their child die. In that case, I'd say, sure, intervene. But in almost any other circumstance, I don't get it. So the reason I bring this up is the left's argument is that parents should have final say over what treatments their kids get. And that if, you know, the child wants to get a, you know, sex change surgery or whatever, that the parents and the doctor decide the government shouldn't intervene. But parents don't have the right to abuse their children.

But parents, and I'm not arguing, I'm saying the left argues this position while simultaneously arguing the government should be allowed to mandate children receive a medical treatment, i.e. the vaccine. Conservatives have an inversion. Conservatives argue the government should stop a parent from trying to give their children a sex change under the argument you just made. It is it is abusive. At the same time, the government should not be able to apply a mandate on a vaccine.

I am not saying one idea is right or wrong. What I'm saying is there are different views under the very similar parental rights argument. And of course, we on this side will assert we are actually right and we can break down the logic of that. But ultimately, when it comes down to explaining the principle of parental rights, you run into a simple question. When is where is the moral line for you? When do you say the parents are abusing their kids and not giving them treatment? Well, obviously, for us, a child sex change is abuse. No question. The left doesn't see it that way. Therefore, the principle of parental rights means nothing. All that matters is the moral question that we

agree upon. And if that's the case, then I believe this country should be run on what is our collective moral framework, and we must defend it. I just want to say one thing. I use this expression, the left, all the time. It is the left who are pushing this, but it's not all the left. Most leftists agree with us on this. When I was at Boston Children's Hospital last year, I had a protest there. There were 200 Antifa people on the other side of the street. There were about 10 parents standing with me. Eight or nine of them were lifelong Democrat voters, moms, who know that their girls are girls and not boys. Now the mayor of Boston, Mayor Wu,

said that I was a white supremacist on a tour of terror. Wow. They're standing with me were a bunch of lifelong Democrats. The far left has taken hostage the entire left. Because if anyone on the left speaks up about any of this, they're then deemed the bigot. They're anti-LGBT.

These four letters that paralyze people. They're kicked out of their political parties. the left speaks up about any of this they're then deemed the bigot they're anti-lgbt these four letters that paralyze people they kicked out of their political parties so all the normal leftists i say normal leftists i don't agree with many of their ideologies at all but the the moderate leftists aren't allowed to say anything it's really this 10 of the party that's taking the whole party hostage but look here i am banging on the door of the right wing, begging to be called a conservative, but Seamus keeps calling me a liberal. I keep, yeah, this guy's a liberal over here. But Seamus

has made the argument on this show, if you are pro-choice, you can't be a conservative. Yeah, I think that's a weighted issue. I don't think that you can be a conservative and be pro-choice. That's such a fundamental issue to the parties. In classical terms, you're a liberal where yeah the word liberty comes from the latin libertad meaning freedom but now the left says

the word liberty itself is a dog whistle for fascism but that's right not even not even the classical sense not even the philosophical sense if you look up traditional liberalism or social liberal liberalism this country you'll be like that actually sounds like tim a whole lot this is where democrats were for a long time so these people you're mentioning they're probably very much in a similar political space to where we on this show are yet they call this show conservative they call me a conservative commentator despite the fact that i argue with conservatives all the time yeah especially on issues like this yeah i'm called the far right but i'm pretty centrist it depends on the issue well i also think it's hilarious that you were referred to as a white supremacist on a tour of terror because they'll just say anything they'll just say anything no i don't

know i mean i've seen a bit of your work but i haven't heard much uh on racial politics from you how can they even claim white supremacists is this just because everything fits under the alphabet soup label and so if you oppose that stuff you're a white racist well they put like because you're white yeah yeah so that's it well hold on hold on brilliant you're tall so you must be scaring you're a supremacist and you're white therefore get it yeah at portland state this professor he's a geology professor he's an adjunct professor he came out to counter protest us on his bike standing right in front of us so i couldn't talk to people and then he took his shirt off his sweater off to reveal that he's been on estrogen now this guy said that we were white supremacists and i said hold on what what makes me a white supremacist

he said well look at you i said well you're white so his explanation ultimately was that transphobia is the tip of the spear of white supremacy let me tell you i was at occupy wall street and they were trying to figure out what their main goal was going to be and they're talking about the banks and the corruption and then in exasperation some guy stands up screaming at the top of his lungs how do you people not understand fracking is everything just furious fracking and i'm just like yo fracking like call the frack down okay fracking has nothing to do with this president getting elected and like but this guy in his brain the only thing it could process was fracking he thought the president was only elected because big oil companies were investing in those who would allow fracking, and that the reason why

climate change is happening is fracking. The reason why there's social disorder is because these big oil companies, that was the center of his universe. It was the only thing he could comprehend. Very much like this guy, his whole world is trans issues. So any argument is the most paramount problem the world is facing. Yes, these leftists would sooner have us import oil from Saudi Arabia than produce it ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what they put forward. How dare you?

That's right. I mean, we can't drill in the United States because when we pull oil out of the ground and burn it, that's bad for the environment. But when we burn oil other people pulled out of the ground, that's good for the environment. Well, how about we just say when we create completely emission-free energy nuclear yeah they also don't want us doing that either it's almost like they just want to neuter energy independence or something like that like they don't care about our country and want to fail ireland is about to kill 200 000 cows to stop i heard about this. That's demonic. It's just insane. Just kill all these animals.

Meanwhile, China opens a coal-fired power plant every week. Have you ever met a cow? I've seen some. I don't know if I've been introduced, but I've seen some cows pretty close. Bill Gates has developed a drug. He's patented a drug, a pill, to give to cows so they'll produce less methane.

That's gotta be really good for them. should google that that's super healthy cows oh my gosh ultimately i think we need to go back to something that are called nations because this whole globalist thing isn't really working out we need to pull out of the world health organization we need to pull out of the un we need to pull out of the World Health Organization. We need to pull out of the UN. We need to pull out of the World Economic Forum and start governing our countries like they're actual countries. Amen. Seaweed-based feed to reduce methane emissions in cows. It's just like, okay,

how many levels of scam do you have to be on to be able to sell people pills to make their cows fart less? I got a better idea. It's unbelievable. We should make helmets for cows. They go over their heads and they have a pipe that goes down right in front of their mouth but at a good distance away and their butts and there is a fire so when they burp it goes

and now the cows are breathing fire that would actually be really cool could you imagine you're walking down you're driving down the road and you see a bunch of cows and the cow looks and goes brah and fires goes we just have to find a way to harness the power of that methane yeah so you know what you know i was saying is we should get a big dome and put it over the cow pasture so all the methane gets sucked up and then we used to to warm our homes that's a really good idea do you think the pendulum's swinging back tim absolutely i mean i think the bud light effect is the main it's a bud light was the catalyst and now we see the bud light effect all these companies panicking over potentially getting boycott you know netflix lost millions of subscribers oh yeah it wasn't just bud light this stuff is happening i think

look someone like me right grow up in chicago moderately liberal individual traditional uh socially liberal person. I see a pride parade. I go, whatever. I see pride flags and stuff. I'm like, oh, that's cool. I have friends who wave the pride flag. I'm like, good for you.

I'm glad you're happy, man. Congratulations. I'm fairly liberal in the traditional sense on issues of gay marriage and families and all that stuff. And I've had arguments with conservatives on these issues. We get along, but we disagree then all of a sudden i start seeing them send books like genderqueer to kids which have overt sex acts in them from an author who outright says in the book that she has sexually aroused the thought of being a man and then wants children to say affirm her as a man i'm like i'm putting two together two and two together here yeah they're grooming kids right now all a man, I'm like, I'm putting two and two together here. Yeah, they're grooming kids, right? Now, all of a sudden, I'm like, hey, can we not do this?

And what happens? They attack me. They call me a conservative. So this is the point where people like me, who are traditionally liberal, are now hanging out with conservatives. And the simple way to put it is this. I am beset on both sides by activists. On the right, there is a man saying, I think abortion is wrong. Life begins at conception and we should not be killing these babies. And I say, okay, well, there's a lot of challenging questions there around the rights of two individuals now who are sharing one body and how we deal with that. But I hear your argument, right? Then I look to my left and they say, anyone for any reason at any time should be allowed to abort the baby, even if the baby can survive.

And I say, that has no logic and makes literally no sense in any capacity. If the baby must be delivered from the woman, no matter what, why kill the baby? They made this argument about like, what if the baby's stillborn? Well, it's not an abortion then, if the baby's already dead. What if the mother's health is in jeopardy? I agree. The baby must be removed. I'm sorry. If the baby would survive, abortion is specifically defined by the federal government

and Planned Parenthood as ending the life of that baby. So what ends up happening is a person like me who has traditionally been pro-choice says, if the only options you're giving me is we ban abortion outright or we allow babies gestated at nine months to be killed. I'm going to vote for the guy who's banning abortion because I'm like, it may not fit my worldview perfectly, but man, that's graphic and psychotic. And they're doing it in so many states. Now we come to the question of child sex changes. Look, you take a look at what's going on in Europe. You take a look at Finland and you know better than I do. They are shutting this stuff down. The research isn't backing it up. And so I say, okay, well, you know, the best assumption I can make is clearly this doesn't make sense. It's not working. And you look at desistance rates, these studies that we've said

in the show several times show, what is it, 65 to 95% of children desist and live happy, normal lives. So there's an important thing about that statistic this is based off all the studies up until about 2004 before they started giving kids puberty blockers so these studies and there's about 12 academic ones that have been done i'll point to yeah over 80 on average of these kids desisted but this is when one out of 30 000 were affected and they'd go through puberty this yeah and they'd go through puberty puberty itself was the cure yep now we're blocking the cure but this is real gender dysphoria. This affected mostly boys, not girls. Most grew up to be gay.

What we're seeing today, totally different. Mostly adolescent girls. They're all going to grow up to be fun. So here's my point. Yeah. Well, not if they carve them up first. Whatever argument the left wants to make about their views on these issues, Something maybe I could potentially agree with. Let's say they're like,

we want to tax the rich. And I'll be like, oh man, you know, I don't know. It's universal health care. We want to create a public option. And I'm like, there's a lot of questions about that, but I'm not, you know, as polarized on that issue. And they say, vote for us and we will create universal basic health care.

It won't cover very expensive cancer treatments, but it'll cover your flus, your broken bones. And I'm going, OK, that sounds pretty good. And they go, and by the way, we're going to give children sex changes and we're going to abort babies at nine months. I'll be like, I'm going to go vote for the other guy. And the other guy says, no health care for anyone, but at least babies will live. And I'll be like, I got to take what I can get, I guess. Well, what you just said is what's called Obamacare.

Right. That's exactly what happened under Obamacare. Then they were mandated to pay for these child sex changes. And I think that went into effect in 2015. And surprise, surprise, that's also a year this started skyrocketing. Now, it's not just Obamacare. That's the year that Bruce Jenner became Caitlyn Jenner. Yep.

And I believe it's the year I Am Jazz became a reality show. That might have started earlier, but that's helped to popularize this. It's been, Jazz, how long has it been on TV? It's like, uh. Maybe it's longer than that's longer than that no maybe nine or ten years almost so there have been breaks around there 2015 but but uh there you go oh okay 2015 is a yeah eight but my year and all of this my my my my my statement is very simply when it comes to liberals look man i i would vote for like a moderate. You know, I would prefer someone who's moderate for me. I can understand the arguments coming from conservatives.

We have sane, rational, logical arguments. I often cite the conversation I had with Glenn Beck on abortion that was, I thought, wonderful and ended with a handshake, smiles, and we'll learn to live together and try and find the best way to build a great America. And I'm like, this is fantastic. And it was friendly and it was great. And I have tremendous respect for him. And then we have these people on the show and these leftists who will say things like i'm for forced abortion like nonsensical i i matt bender said that i don't

think trans people exist and i said who are you talking to yeah i was like what do you i i absolutely think trans people exist i don't what does that mean what are you saying and you think they don't exist i'm like you're not you're just saying words that doesn't mean anything means nothing means literally nothing to me i i have trans friends i think trans people exist i want them to have civil rights i want to be protected i just think we're talking about kids here and it's a different question so if my option is that or a conservative guy at least the conservative guy makes sense well this has happened on the show where i've had this conversation with left-wing guests and i have explained that i do not use the made-up pronouns i call somebody uh reality-based

pronouns based on what they are and they were saying wait so like you don't think trans people exist conservatives don't think trans people exist no i recognize that there are human beings who exist who identifies the opposite sex i'm saying that doesn't actually make them the opposite sex what is this slogan you you're debating their right to exist what no i can't i can't stop them from existing with my words i can only accurately identify what they are and say i'm not willing to lie they say this because it silences conversation yep because it shuts people up it's the same reason they say kids are going to kill themselves if you don't let them transition but here's the deal it's a label right now an adult can take on whatever label they want but the way way we should be framing this, especially with kids, is there are children with gender dysphoria.

Or I would prefer the word sex dysphoria, but whatever. There are children who are struggling. These are children in distress. Half of them are on the autism spectrum. All these kids have some other mental health comorbidity going on. They need to be screened for trauma and abuse because that's very common. A lot of these girls, and some of the boys too, have been sexually abused. Some of these kids have come up to me and told me stories. There's always

something else going on. And I don't want anyone to believe me. I want everyone to go onto Google right now and look up a story by Jamie Reid, an article published by Jamie Reid in the Free Press. She worked at the Washington University Transgender Clinic, connected to St. Louis Children's Hospital.

She describes herself as a queer woman who's married to a trans man and she's politically left of Bernie Sanders. I didn't know that was possible. But she filed an affidavit with the Attorney General of Missouri and she wrote this devastating expose where she confirms everything

that people like myself have been saying. I just want to point something out. So recently we got news that Starbucks was taking down the pride decorations. This came from the Starbucks workers union and I posted about it and I had a bunch of leftists tell me that I'm wrong, that I was hoaxed, that the right is pushing fake news. And my response was, how did it come to be that the quote-unquote left would side with the corporation's spokesperson over their workers union it's wild it's probably tribal like they just literally makes no sense it's probably it's no no it's because the idea that they would lose

a culture war battle is more important than the fact and i'm like you know the thing me siding with the workers union is on brand right i'm not a big fan of unions but of course we often side in the more populist side of things the left tends to side on the corporatist side of things yet they're supposed to be the ones that are working for the workers yeah clearly just makes no sense yeah they're the anti-fascists they'll tell you they're not the ones that are pushing the lucrative merger of a state and all the corporations for the record on this starbucks thing workers union said starbucks is pulling trans stuff starbucks corporate said no we're not and then there's video of specific stores removing there's videos of employees complaining they're being forced to take down pride decorations but they're not saying it's by corporate necessarily

it's by middle management oh they're saying corporate sent an issue well i mean i don't think anyone gets that specifically. They're saying, I was told I had to take these things down. So it might just be select micromanagement. The workers union said that across the country, they've been instructed, numerous stores have been instructed to remove their- Oh, and then corporate denied it. And then corporate denied there is no policy to take these things down.

Cool. I don't believe the corporate spokesperson, like when Deepwater Horizon happened and the BP is like like we're sorry i'm like yeah you guys are full of it right i don't believe when fukushima happened in the japanese you know government they're saying like everything's under control like no you're lying right what makes more sense a bunch of workers were told to do a thing they filmed videos about it they said it's happening probably happening but now you have the left on the side of the massive multinational corporation so no no they they never never said that they're keeping it up

it's like okay whatever dude yeah i i kind of wanted to mention this as well i mean the left does back the massive multinational corporations we've seen this for a while they're not really interested in workers rights and that's something that's new in an overt way, but they've always advocated for policies that enrich big business like illegal immigration, which we know just cuts workers' wages down and also pushing them into the workforce. Bernie Sanders in 2015 was against illegal immigration, and he was the left, and he had all the young progressives screaming as loud as they can for him. But the official democratic establishment.

Yeah, but they're neolibs. They're corporatists. They've never been like actual socialists or left. When I say left, I'm talking about the actual left, not the neolibs. Well, even most left wing people, at least I've spoken to through the course of my life, have been very much in favor of illegal immigration and have argued that if you oppose that, you're a bad person who's motivated by a hatred towards brown-skinned people no i i can agree with that but but but also if we're talking about like the there's also right anarchists and libertarians who are like totally fine with illegal immigration too yeah no you have that in the libertarian party i'm just saying overall when we talk about left-wing right exactly when we talk about left-wing and right-wing people usually right-wing

people are against the illegal immigration or believe we need to actually enforce our immigration law left wing people generally don't believe that but you're you're right that it's not entirely partisan there have been left wing people who have been on the other side of that issue yeah i guess my point is but my point is this is certainly not the first or only time we've seen left wing people come out in favor of the position of corporate america you know on illegal immigration it's interesting Let's talk about another country for a minute. Canada. We're further left than the United States, for sure. We have no illegal immigration.

And if we did, people wouldn't like it. Well, you do. It's not like as massive, right? Yeah. It's minuscule. Yeah, it happens. I guess so. You have people crossing the border illegally to get health care.

Yeah, there's this place over in Quebec where if you come through, but it's tiny. But my point is, there's all this outrage from the left in the United States because they say, well, we shouldn't be stopping this. We shouldn't have a wall. We should have millions of people coming in.

Guess what? As soon as you guys fix this one day, and it will get fixed, that's all going to go away. There won't be stopping this. We shouldn't have a wall. We should have millions of people coming in. Guess what? As soon as you guys fix this one day, and it will get fixed, that's all going to go away. There won't be the outrage. They just want something to be outraged about. They want something that differentiates them from conservatives. And this is one of those issues.

Well, it helps them electorally too, right? Because they know that if they can fill certain counties or states that are dark blue with many new immigrants, even if they're not citizens, or states that are dark blue with many new immigrants even if they're not citizens that increases their level of representation so they get uh more electoral votes i think it's a lot it very much is people that are miserable personally are lashing out at the people around them and they're doing it sociologically through stuff like if you're playing a video game and your guy keeps dying in the game and you're like that you're getting angry and then someone walks into the room and tries to talk to you and you snap at them like that's like what

this stupid like online they're the bad guy they're the bad guy like look inside of you how many drugs are you taking to get through the day like what's wrong with you that you need to villainize your surroundings and the people around you no god lack of like stability because there's no god in your life there's no like center point. If you die, it's okay. That's a hugely important point. It's a hugely important point because with postmodernism, with the fall of traditional religions, what do you have? You have a void in a guiding belief system for how to behave, what to believe in. And wherever there's a void, that void gets filled with something.

So postmodernism has taken over this. There's no purpose. It's gender ideology. Why are we here? What is the end goal of anything I do if we just die when it's all over? The premise of queer theory is there is no morality. Everything is acceptable. Right.

And they believe that there is no truth but power, which is a fascistic moral framework. Constitutional republicanism and classical liberalism like in the United States, we do not agree with that. We believe that there is an objective reality that we seek to better understand and work towards. Yeah, back in the day, if you disagreed with somebody, you would have to fight them. And I'm talking about a long, I think Andrew Tate was talking about this, Patrick Bet- Dueling? Yeah, basically. you would have to fight them and i'm talking about a long i think andrew tate was talking about this patrick beth dueling yeah basically and before that if the tribal leader was said something was real and you knew it wasn't either you kept your mouth shut or you say you're lying and then it would become a physical fight to the death and whoever wins is the one that gets to

speak the truth now and then if someone challenges you you have to fight them but we don't have that because power is not true we do we don't really have that in this society you're allowed to disagree with someone without fear of getting attacked or having to fight them. As Norm McDonald said, I was looking back through history and isn't it crazy? The good guys won every battle. What are the odds? That's a big problem. Andrew Tate's an interesting character. Now, before people attack me online, I obviously don't agree with everything Andrew Tate says or does. However, he is filling a role. There are all these boys and young men who feel very emasculated by this society. And right or wrong in how he does it, and Jordan Peterson as well, so many of these young

kids look up to Andrew Tate. In Ottawa last week, I was at this huge protest that we organized, and this man came up to me. He told me when he was younger, he's probably in his early 20s now, when he was a teenager, he came to believe he was transgender, that he should be a girl. He saw a psychologist three times, three appointments, and the psychologist was ready to send him off to get hormones, estrogen. A friend of him introduced him to Andrew Tate. Wow. Nice. And he started watching Andrew Tate's Wow. Nice. And he started watching

Andrew Tate's videos and he rejected this whole mind virus that had taken over him. Now he's working out all the time and he credits it to Andrew Tate. So Andrew Tate saved that guy's life to a great degree. Yeah. And then you've got really interesting questions about why they're going after Andrew Tate and his brother. He's not been charged so i understand he still has not been charged they're increasing the the potential charges in the investigation but he's currently be he was he was put in jail then he's under house arrest house arrest not charged for any crimes very interesting and then you have these women who are they claim we're victims actually came out and said we're not victims we think he's great and then the judge said no you're brainwashed yet the anonymous the anonymous people that have accused

him have been totally fine they continue to use those anonymous people's uh references and say that this is this is totally reason to hold the tape brothers for as long as i have an under on house where i have like the little collars and such i mean they should not have chosen romania yeah i i gotta tell you like it's an awesome country like i've been there and it was a really awesome pizza joint had a lot of fun beautiful but their legal system is uh not very good he did like a five and a half hour interview with andrew with uh patrick bett david on the pbd podcast i've watched 40 minutes of it it's awesome highly recommend it but apparently he just got served he and tristan brother, just got served with upgraded charges.

Andrew said he met with whatever the person's called, district attorney, whatever, and that they rearranged the charges to make them much more minor, but they're still charging him. But has he been charged formally yet? My understanding was that he was under investigation, but not formally charged. I think he has, but don't quote me on that um this says from today from cnn um charges yes served with legal papers by uk lawyers upgrading the severity of the trafficking charge against him and his brother oh a uk charge no i don't i don't think so no i don't think he's been charged this is the cnn yeah he's not been charged he's so they're using the word charge haphazard the bbc says they're expanding the case and the investigation right and my i've not seen it i

could be wrong i could be wrong but i had not seen any news that they'd actually ever been criminally charged with any with any crime really a mess if they think that you might be guilty for some reason they're allowed to keep you up to six months in jail and they kept him in in solitary for for that's crazy thinking my gosh i don't know how he did it not the whole time he wasn't i've been in i put it i've been put in jail charged with causing a disturbance for standing and walking peacefully i was in there for five hours in a cell on my own we're going crazy yep i was pretty relaxed but my heartbeat was going and i cannot imagine staying in there for a long period of time because when all you got around you is white walls.

And they leave the lights on. And you can't. He said the weirdest thing was like, if you get a thought, like, when did Constantinople fall? He couldn't figure it out. He couldn't look it up. There's no way to like satiate your need for answers. And so you just got to live with the question for like, I don't know. He didn't say how long, but it just never goes away.

That's how the world used to be, dude. That's how the world used to be. And it used to at least be able to ask somebody but like he couldn't even ask somebody he'd just be stuck there with his own thoughts you have i i i my recommendation to everyone i've been i i spent a night in jail one time rest of her skateboarding is a funny story because when i ended up going to court for it the judge was so pissed off they actually showed up too they charged me with they tried charging me with a felony but the cops were like are you nazi can't like he's skateboarding down the street you're crazy but they were trying to make an example of me because i was skating in downtown chicago so they gave me um criminal damage to a

state-supported location because i was riding my skateboard down the sidewalk and so when i went to court so i go to jail and i'll tell you the story quickly and then talk about jail i go to jail and i was there for i think it was like 16 hours i'm there and i don't even it's it's a room the lights are on it's a concrete block with a toilet connected to a water faucet and that's it yeah they took all the shoelaces uh anything that they they took my uh i think i had an over shirt like I'm wearing now. And they took my shoelaces off my shoes. And so I used my shoe as a pillow and I just laid there. But I get out.

I ended up going to court and the judge was like, next on the docket, whatever. I can't remember what he said. You know, Timothy Poole. And I stand up and he was like, so what's going on? And then the prosecutor standing with the security guys who had filed the complaint said he was skateboarding at this address and the judge looks down pulls the glass and he's like he was what and they're like he was skateboarding around and he goes are you joking and then he he's just like he's had i can't remember

that's what he said but he was like get out of my courtroom all of you now case is sol which apparently means like they could bring it back or whatever but it's like we're gone this is a waste of my time and then i was like can i leave and he was like i'm sorry you can go and i was like but anyway what i learned in that uh half day in jail prison time is slow was uh don't there's nothing you can do so six months probably substantially harder than just doing a half day don't get me wrong people have done way worse but they have me in this room. I could hear someone screaming. The door is just a big metal door with a tiny little window.

It was, the light was on full blast all night. It's a concrete block. And so you just have to immediately accept it. Fighting, thrashing, panicking, freaking out only makes it worse.

You just have to calm, breathe, meditate, and take control of your mind, and then just accept it. Yeah. Andrew said his life training was paying off and that you make your body strong so that the outside world doesn't destroy you, and you make your mind strong so that you don't destroy yourself. And he found the best way to stay positive because it was just constantly like what you're talking about having to deal with it is to be nice to the guards and to be nice to the lady that would bring him a meal and he'd make people smile and he said it would make him always make him feel better even the people that like looked at him like they hated him started to like him and there just started to be kind of an uplifting

energy in the jail and that was what got him through it there's a guy a vietnam captive this captain that went down in vietnam his plane went down he got taken to a hotel hanoi where a lot of the prisoners of war were kept in vietnam and he said everybody was just it was just misery so he would do these smiling exercises with the other prisoners just to like stretch up and keep their their jaws and their lips you know in a smile and that it actually would would improve people's moods, that there's something about the physiology with smiling. I'll notice, like I look at Mitch McConnell,

you'll see a lot of politicians and people in power with permafrowns, like where the creases just go down. What a miserable way to live. And I'll catch myself in the mirror sometimes looking like that, or we'll just be on the show talking about depressing stuff, and my lips are like, I can see it on your face. I know, I know. So you constantly got to work it. It's almost almost like you gotta force your body to be happy no it's well there's actually something to that uh you

you don't just respond to your emotions physically your emotions respond to your physical state if you if you improve your posture take on the pose of somebody's more confident you actually start to feel more confident if you smile more yeah this is more happy they teach you this in uh fundraising stuff stand with your feet apart your feet along with your shoulders and keep your hands open and it boosts your confidence i know the hands on the hips that's why trump does this if you're doing a sales call you're supposed to stand up not sit down yeah and walk and they tell you to uh stand on the balls of your feet and bounce up and down wow yeah great stand when while you're pitching while you're doing a sales pitch when you're when you when you're pitching a a fundraise uh a membership to a random person they want your feet directly so you spread your legs yeah i get

that but like they actually want you bouncing while you present wow they want you slightly bouncing and leaning forward wow uh maybe because it makes you appear taller. Energetic. I don't know. Excited about it. Yeah. You believe in it. But I got to tell you, I wonder, I know people who have done solitary. Like you talk about the January 6th people, two years or whatever, some of these people in total lockdown. It feels like eternity.

It's like, you know, it's the crazy thing that about, you know, getting locked up in a room where they never turn the lights out. You're in a building with no windows. So there's no natural light. The lights are on 24-7. You don't know how long it's been. You don't know what time it is. All you can do is sit there.

You can't. It's hard to get tired when the lights are on full blast. And so you're just sitting there staring, having no idea what's going on until finally someone comes and opens the door. And I think this should be, you know, I think it should be illegal. There should be a mandated humane treatment if you are presumed innocent in this country. cash bail i think cash bail is problematic but i think that in certain circumstances pertaining to a certain amount of crime and uh the severity of the crime we at we should just have remand it's like you're a violent criminal okay well if there's a preponderance of evidence there's a chat i think that people who are arrested and charged should be given full quality life like quality of life standards in jail yeah i think the reason is because you don't want people to get destroyed by the process, especially when they're innocent. You should get the internet.

You should get a room. The room should have a comfortable bed, a refrigerator, a TV, and the internet. You can't leave. You can go online, depending on your crime. If you're like a financial fraudster or whatever, you're accused of that. We're going to be like, look, we're going to restrict your access to certain websites or something like that. But if you're presumed innocent, why would i not be allowed to work yeah well i agree with you it's very strange right and you understand why it happens just for you know flat economic reasons but to be subject to punishment before you've actually had your day in court and before you've been found guilty of any kind of crime which you may not

have committed you could actually be totally innocent is totally unfair i think it's one of the magnificence parts of the united states because i don't think in human history that's really been considered that you would treat a prisoner well i mean they they would treat them well like especially the really rich dukes that they would capture because they were going to sell them back but like that you would give the common man like adequacy and and while they're waiting to be remanded or charged or whatever that's it's pretty fast some may argue we can't afford it. There's too many criminals.

And I'm like, well, therein lies the problem of classical liberalism. They just created trillions and trillions of dollars out of thin air. But the idea that we would give everyone who is accused of a crime who must be remanded a standard hotel room is substantially more expensive and hard to do. You don't have to do that. There are parts of the world where prisons are much more humane. Right.

It depends on the crime you commit. Norway. Women's prisons are much more humane because they're not usually in there for violent crime. Well, not even prison. I'm talking about jail. Yeah. Right? Right. Yeah. Jails are worse. It's actually the first holding facility you go to that's usually the worst. Yeah. I was in a room with just like, it was like a hallway basically with two glass walls

on each side. Glass, you know, walls and doors. And they put you in there and you have to stay there for a while and they take all your stuff from you. But if we're saying someone's innocent until they're proven guilty, how are we then allowed to strip them of their quality of life and punish them before anything has been proven? And I'm a capitalist, but privatized prisons, total nonsense. Yeah, I completely agree. Shouldn't do it. All it does is end up abusing these people.

I mean, don't get me wrong. Government-run prisons are bad too. Yeah. But we don't want to incentivize the pipeline of prisoners. But let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,

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meantime you can download the google app we do have the apple app done as well but you can't just download that to your phone the same way that you can with uh android so that's why i don't like apple anyway let's read i'm not your buddy guy says the mere fact that every single evil person on the left and right are uniting to stop Trump no matter the cost just shows they fear he will finally put an end to their corruption and expose the traitors for who they are. I agree. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's absurd to think that Donald Trump, who would not invoke the Insurrection Act in the summer of love, is somehow a fascist dictator. Yeah, I we talked. We watched his speech last night and after it was done, I basically hijacked

the talk session that we were going to chat about it. And I started to talk about Nazi propaganda. I felt like I got twisted to make it look like I was comparing him. I was just concerned about when you make political speeches, when people are like, talk about really depressing, depressing, depressing things. And at the very end of the speech give a rallying cry that was the point i was trying to make i think donald trump has been an immense um opportunity for humanity and its wake-up call and he's been a big part of this like revolution of consciousness i have a lot of respect for what he's done i got issues with his personality from time to time as anyone would but uh mad respect for the human being i'm downloading looking forward to talking to you real quick because we we it went up uh i think yeah i downloaded it too yeah people are saying it works great all right jesus believer says tim and company if you haven't read the blueprint

by schaefer and witwer you need to it breaks down the blueprint the left has been using to flip states blue well all right hunter killer says the kenyan president says africa is going to use afraxim bank for trade instead of u.s dollars america is going to crash hard yeah yep and this and this is the question right the reason why they want to make sure that trump doesn't get elected is because trump wants to actually uphold the desires of the american people that not have international conflict and war but the reason one of the reasons they want international war and conflict is to force the use of the u.s dollar yeah yeah i was just i mean i was gonna make a cynical joke there about like i don't know if the dollar's gonna crash if we're just gonna go to war

with those people or both this is when you have to find some reason to find some reason our freedom's over there if the pendulum was swinging back i think you asked us earlier on the show i feel like the pendulum is national supremacy. And for the last 80 years, it's been this American liberal economic order that's controlled the world. And now the internet has caused this backlash. And now the pendulum is like,

maybe nationalist superiority isn't the way. But as the pendulum is swinging back, it's not on a flat plane. It's not left and right. It's being pushed towards you, but people are trying to push it to the left as it's going back and other people trying to push it to the right so like how is the pendulum going to swing back is it going to be someone like donald trump that like upends the liberal economic order is it going to be something

like a communist revolution inside of the country is it going to be a technocratic revolution will there even be a revolution like will it end up being a new form of american military supremacy that's that's in the other direction i wonder but i think inevitably it is swinging back and that people do not like american military bases all over earth pretending to be like global police or functioning trying to work as global police when you can see the writing is on the wall most of the world is not happy with the american dollar being force-fed to it yeah however i'm going to push back on that a bit. I've got a financial background for 18 years.

The entire world depends on the U.S. dollar being strong. Right. Or else the entire world fails as well. That's the thing. We all go up and down together. That's the thing about this Afrexian Bank thing. It's not really supported by a lot of things. You have to just convince a lot of people, especially in Africa, to just suddenly say,

oh, we're not going to use our... Maybe saying not our currency is a good idea because of places like zimbabwe etc but i don't it's not backed by anything there's no major superpower backing that like there is with the u.s dollar there's no there's no major economy backing that like there's the u.s dollar i don't think it's gonna just go over just like that yeah when i got into the financial business back in 2001 u.s debt was i don't know two three trillion something like that yeah when i got into the financial business back in 2001 u.s debt was i don't know two three trillion something like that now it's over 30 and for the longest time they were able to get away with this because interest rates were so low so your debt burden your interest cost was very small now with interest rates of five percent on 30 trillion that's one and a half trillion a

year what are you gonna do you're getting pretty close to the entire gdp of the country and as we saw in i think 2008 it was in europe we had greece we had portugal we had iceland we had ireland right all about the default so they brought in these extreme austerity measures now they have huge taxes they have consumption taxes we have goods and service tax in canada it's called gst, 7% on everything. Same in Singapore. There's nothing like that in the United States. There's still taxation ability in the US. But you guys can't tax your ability out of this debt anymore. So it's simply a matter of time

until there's some sort of default. And it's going to be bad. What would that look like? Well, you know, a lot of the US debt is actually owed to the Federal Reserve. So it's like they took money from their left pocket and gave it to the right pocket. I don't know.

Can you cancel some of that without having total disaster? Of the $30 trillion, the Federal Reserve thinks we're going to give it back. We just give zero of it back. We're going to keep our money. Thanks. They just can't keep going like this. It's just going to keep going higher and higher. Have you ever seen the Three Stooges?

Where they have the $20 bill? He's's like you owe me 20 bucks and he's like well you owe me 20 bucks it's like okay here you go but what's the bucks you owe me like so then he's like okay now we're all even and he puts the money back like well there you go you just do it that way all right the whole financial system is extraordinarily fragile the whole thing can come crashing down so way more fragile than people as we almost saw saw in 2009. Raybert G. Stanbert Jr. says, just downloaded the app and it looks clean. A lot of time for bug fixing, I suppose. Also, have you seen the new Tate interview?

He's quite the wordsmith. I have not, but I heard that it is up. Yeah, Patrick Bet-David and Adam Sosnick went to Romania and sat down at Andrew's house with him. That's amazing. Five and a half hours. He was also on Rumble today. He's on Rumble today as well. I saw it, but i didn't know what andrew was on rumble today yeah

he uh went live afraid it was a lot of people that are watching on rumble so the uh the value attainment guys are awesome by the way shout out to the value attainment and david good dudes they're doing really awesome stuff uh down in in uh florida yeah it's the pbd podcast andrew you'll find it on youtube super cool yep all right uh what do we got ryan font uh fontanez says my wife works as a production employee target in indiana and they had a meeting about the employees being accepting to other ideas boycott working wow target very interesting there it is super bet brev says

let me know if y'all would be interested in having an ex fanny may executive during the 2000s economic crisis on he's also an expert in economics federal banking and christianity uh yeah that sounds amazing actually yeah yeah that's wild absolutely yes but you didn't include a name yeah name them yeah name them and then we'll invite them on what are we at legumath again says rittenhouse and penny are both heroes who have taught us the exact same thing get it on tape all of our physical persons are now civil war battlefield physical persons are our civil war battlefields of the woke cult who seek to erode our basic rights and assert their anarcho-tyrannical power over our entire lives. You know, Tim, if I may interrupt for one second.

What do we do about all these lying media companies who just lie without any consequence? Sue them. When you can. But they're clever. They know how to bypass the rules. But they're the source of so many of the problems in society. There'd be no transgender craze affecting children if not for the media. I mean, it's not just that.

I mean, there's a lot, like, Trump would not have been impeached if the media wasn't lying to... I mean, even right now, you had the story where Target faced bomb threats, and almost all of the corporate news outlets framed it as though it was the right doing it when it was a left-winger threatening them for pulling pride merchandise so and so they they they they obfuscate these facts to lie cheat and steal yeah i mean look they're losing their ratings are collapsing it's absolutely incredible how um uh cnn jake tapper is like don't don't don't show any more of this Trump stuff. He's lying. And it's just like, you are so ideologically captured, you can't even show the front runner for the GOP. You are so ideologically captured, you cannot show a former president give a speech after a historical indictment. CNN is not going to exist in a little while they can't even talk about the news sooner or later it's going to be like two left-wing activists talking about how great each other are it's gonna be it's gonna be two left-wing activists and be like you're very smart no you're also

smart that's it you're better all it will be because they're gonna be like well if we do talk about what trump is doing people get mad so let's not do that let's just talk about how great chameleon is yeah let's do that i'm totally fine with tall thank you good looking thank you oh my gosh you guys and i'm super straight all right andrew roland said someone make a batman comic where batman beats up the joker and gotham city tries to make joker look like the victim oh he wants to bring smiles to gotham and so police are forced to chase batman and arrest him i strongly recommend andrew that you read uh or watch any of the Justice League because they've done this stuff. I don't know about Batman and Joker specifically, but

I posted a clip from Justice League Unlimited recently where, and this actually makes perfect context because this is actually what the story was. Lex Luthor claims to be reformed and he wants to run for president. He claims he's built Lexor City to help underprivileged people. And deep beneath this park where there are children, there is a machine with a timer going off. Superman panics, fights Shazam, aka Captain Marvel, busts through the ground and destroys the machine. He was set up, made to look bad when he was trying to stop what he thought was a supervillain

planning to set off a bomb or some kind of device. you know he's gonna get chased by the cops or anything but he gets framed he gets made to be made out to be the bad guy the bad guys like it's not the same story but the general idea is you know they're gonna make you out to be the bad guy when you're trying to do good anyway i posted this clip because uh captain marvel at the time he was called captain marvel now they call him shazam he's like i'm quitting the justice league and then superman goes he's right and then batman goes they set you up clark and then superman goes what does it matter if it they and then batman goes they and then it plays ominous music and i'm like the context around that clip is very different

18 years later yeah you know yeah has it really been 18 years i can't believe it's been that long wow yeah they now now if you were to say something like that you'd be accused of being a bigot and anti-semite and all this other crazy stuff but it was just like a kid's show at the time but there's a bunch of stuff like that in comics where they ask these questions and entertain these ideas and they're uh they're they're great i'm sure people who are fans of uh dc comics i mean after what is how long has batman been around 70 years or something i think since the 30s they're 100 years 90 years old at this point yeah all right let's read more what do we got

really now 1939 yeah 39 wow uh sorry this will be harsh towards ian for those of us who have been those of us have been to war, seen it firsthand. This is also the SD argument you have presented when you say that you don't know the details, you are arguing to argue. The best skill is listening. Well, okay. No idea what they're referring to. Listening is the ultimate skill. I don't know what SD is, though.

Uh, D. Claw says, Tim and Cast, it was Prop 47 in ca that raised the felony for retail theft up to a thousand dollars it was voted on and approved in 2014 only during covid did people finally see the effects of it in my opinion ah interesting it was supposed to be like a thing to stop people being incarcerated for like minor crimes and then it became this massive problem that people still try and say oh it's not true but like i've been in la i've seen it happen in front of my eyes many times this is what i'm talking about also nine hundred dollars like come on i think i think law is mostly meaningless mostly like what the problem is is no shared moral framework true the fact that someone is willing to steal shows that they don't care about you as a member of their community and they don't care about the morals of society it should be what what did ron paul it was ron paul said i think it should be

legal but unthinkable you talk i'm talking about abortion yeah um i disagree with him there it should be illegal and unthinkable but on this question of people stealing things part of the issue here as well is is not just um the fact that there's no longer law and order massive massive part of the issue i agree i i i'll also say that what's happened is because we have moved away from ma and pa shops to just these massive corporate conglomerates setting up their stores everywhere people don't feel a sense of brand loyalty and they actually don't understand that they're stealing when they're stealing to some extent because they think this is a massive brand that can afford the loss when that isn't necessarily true for a lot of these brands.

The profit margin is razor thin, but because they're less relatable as a massive brand, it's more difficult for people to see that. I think the employees also and middle management tend to hate the corporations that they work at. If they work at like, I'm not going to call any out right now but um you know in the what are you what that into the all the the retail industry and stuff people don't really tend to love the corporation they work for if they're there they're there for a paycheck so if it's getting robbed it's like i'll be happy to turn turn that another out cities also take humanity away from people because they're they're kind of

unnatural yeah we're supposed to know our neighbor. I got to tell you, you know, I was giving a tour of the grounds to a friend and there's fruit everywhere. We got mulberries, too many mulberries. I can't eat them. I'm allergic. We've got black cherries everywhere. They're not ripe yet. The black raspberries are now ripe and I've been eating a ton of them.

We have Allegheny blackberry. We have, I just found this, what is it called? Greenbrier, I think it might be called. There's berries. They're not ripe yet either. I've never heard of them. I don't know if you can eat them. Apparently, you can. I don't know.

But there's grapes everywhere. Grapevine is taking over everything. Nice. And then I was asked by my friend, did you plant all of this? And I'm like, no. This is just how the world is. There is food growing but you live in these concrete blocks you don't see it you know and one thing we haven't touched on

pharmaceuticals are destroying the country i agree so many of these people are on ssris oh yeah whatever and it's just destroying opiates man let's uh let's read some more we got jaded soul he says jank uger was was on density. Was he on density? Destiny. I'm assuming it was destiny. It was destiny a little while ago. Jank said, if Rittenhouse was hit by a skateboard, he likely wouldn't die,

and that didn't justify using a firearm. What an idiot. Also, any chance on cast brew coffee promo with Timcast members, bought all four, rise is fire. Rise with Roberto Jr.

is insanely good. Did Jank, I mean, Jank has said some questionable things, some pretty unintelligent things, but that is unbelievable. Did he really say that? I have known Cenk for a very long time.

I do not believe he actually believes these things. Yeah, because that's an insane thing to say. The idea that when you have a firearm and someone else knows you have a firearm and they hit you in the head with a skateboard, you shouldn't defend yourself with that weapon. You're going to lose control of it and this maniac is going around hitting people with skateboards gonna take your gun and then i'll have that yeah you'd be charged

for shooting him in canada even if he came into your house and did that that's insane every every province in canada yeah if someone breaks into my house and i happen to have a handgun which you can't buy anymore they're illegal to buy or import or transfer i would have to actually be about to die before i could defend myself otherwise i'd end up getting charged that's like the soviet union that's how it was totally that's what it's like in africa you know there's a town in canada or in america that's actually technically in canada but i think it was due to like a map drawing error between the two countries. The only way to get there is by ferry.

Oh, this is in Washington? Not in Washington. 10 minutes from my house. Is it Michigan? Oh, really? Well, there's a place like that. There's a couple. From Washington State, you have to take a ferry, or you can drive through Canada for a little bit. Right. You drive through Canada, and then there's a post where you walk in. There's no one there. You pick up a phone, and you call, and you're like,

hey, I'm just letting you know I'm an american coming in they're like okay now i'm leaving bye roberts washington yeah it's point roberts they do have a border crossing now i go i used to go golfing there once in a while but it's a very small border crossing dude when we so when i was oh sorry oh no no you go ahead you go ahead yeah some of the nhl players like the russian players who played for the vancouver canucks they'd go live in point roberts because it was so close to vancouver but they had a lower tax rate because it was washington state wow yeah i remember when i was a kid uh i was going to canada with my dad and my brothers and when we were like going across the border it was just a trip my dad was taking my brothers and i on

and they were asking him all these questions was the mother okay will you take them he's like my wife yeah she's fine they're like do you have any written consent from her to bring them to canada he's like i could literally just write a note right now and give it to you why are you doing this the guy's like step out of the car and they started asking us questions like do your parents ever fight it was like oh my goodness yeah when i went to canada the first time it's like they they uh the canadian immigration guy said give me your phone and i was like okay and he's like unlock it and i was like sure and then he started going through everything and then he was like close and gave back to me it was like oh my gosh yeah i drove through and they they looked in the back seat and then waved at me and i just kept going well so i i have several phones and so it's like the phone that

i use on a day-to-day basis is not like my personal stuff with my bank or my dms or anything it's just got like basic apps like twitter or whatever so he like opens twitter and he's scrolling through and he's like i don't know whatever he's like these are some pretty good hot takes sir he's like you're actually pretty based here he doesn't say white supremacy on it didn't have the word based back then all right let's grab another a super a chat tn says tim have you have the conclusion the end result is the destruction destruction of cities that is the side effect the end is to destroy retail markets those that enacted the lockdowns will make billions on amazon at all was it a cummering cornering cornering sorry yeah that looks like cornering the online retail

market no i don't disagree completely but i wonder if the end result is literally just part of the malthusian climate cult people i think they want less people they want you to eat bugs and they want you to live in pods yeah i think that's gonna help i think like now one question would you live in the pod hear me out if the pod could fly around now now now hold on i would drive around in the pod it feels more like a flying car than a house but how big is the pod we talking like an rv type thing like van life but it can fly or we talking i it's like a coffin no not a coffin like the pod is going to be relatively small okay like a car okay so like a car size pod car size pod so like the the the driver's seats fold down into a bed but it flies you see the flying thing is super cool but no there's just

if you could stand up in the pod and it had a shower and a toilet and uh how would something like that fly would you fly around it would just be like basically we're talking about like a private plane that's an rv yeah yeah basically that's what they want you would you live in a private plane they want everyone in private planes trying to put us in private jets. Everyone's got to live in a blimp.

Now this is starting to sound like a very cool steampunk novel. I think that using vacuum density to fly is untapped. When they realize the vacuums are

lighter than air we'll be flying around in vacuum cars. You know what we should do? We should get like a hundred blimps and then build a platform across all of them

so you can walk around on top of the blimps and have a floating city. And you make each blimp very small like a little sphereimps and then build a platform across all of them so you can walk around on top of the blimps and have a floating yes and you make each point very small like a little sphere so if one of them gets broken all the other sphere vacuums will be keeping the system afloat yeah i think we just solved climate i think we can't afford not to do it right that's right when we're talking about this they were going to build a private city yeah no years ago uh a bunch of libertarians were sharing this i can't i don't know if it was a libertarian who came up with it but probably it was just a massive floating city that would be in international water so you would never have to pay taxes you just be a citizen but they could also do crazy

research and development without any laws or regulations oh that's horrifying it sounds a bit like uh like china right no yeah and then the city can go underwater yeah dude that game was great they really did not have a good view of objectivists but you know the game was still great i thought it was fun what do we got what's this joshua says the app looks clean and runs incredibly well so far awesome job timcast team Now to log in for members content. So is that not working? We ran all the tests and we've had tests running for months and everything was working perfectly. Yeah, I was asked to log in to watch something

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I think people that are these hardcore hardline socialists, Marxists, et cetera, are just seeing an opportunity to use the useful idiots to try and further their own goals. Not necessarily that it's born of Marxism. I think it's just a convenient time for them. You see, this this super chat actually made my point. Hanzo says, Tim, the right are not cowards. Pause. I think they are. They've been conditioned for decades to not protest, rally, or speak. The right are victims of this conditioning too. Instead of bashing the right for being cowards, empathize with them and decondition them. I specifically said that calling someone a coward is not, it is not my intent to be

derogatory insulting, but people take it that way because it is a negative thing to be. So if I say a coward is a person who, when facing fear, refuses to act and courage and bravery is when facing your fears, you decide to act regardless. That is not to say I am insulting someone for choosing one or the other. It is just to say that someone is or someone is not. If the right, many of the people on the right, facing these problems choose not to act out of fear for what may happen to them, that is the literal definition of cowardice. And I am not saying that to insult anybody.

There's just no other way to describe it. 100%. There are, though, situations where you would not act out of fear and not cowardice. If there's a flaming pit to your right, you're afraid of it. You don't want to dive in. But that doesn't make you a coward because you don't need to go into the pit. If you need to, then you're a coward for not doing it. That's exactly what my point was.

But we're not talking about bullets and fire. We're talking about exercising your freedom of speech because... Well, we're talking about your job. Okay. Your livelihood. Yeah. Your your friends your family social ramifications like you can't get another job i look i i agree but i understand that people will be scared of these things i get it but but the point is facing your fears is not about

arbitrarily facing your fears like you know if there's like a hornet's nest in front of me i'm not gonna be like well i'm gonna be brave today and punch that thing. That makes literally no sense. That's just stupidity. You should do it. That'd be base. Now, if there was a hornet's nest that had fallen and a friend of mine had fallen off their bike and the hornets were zooming past them and then I'm like, I got to do something about this, but I'm terrified of those hornets. I'm not going to let something bad happen to my friend and I start running full speed

to try and help them up. That is bravery. If I went, oh, they're going to get stung get stung it's gonna be really bad but i'm too scared so i better run away too that's cowardice i'm not insulting someone by saying you're being a coward right not trying to insult someone i'm trying to just state a fact refusal to act in the face of of necessity we've had good times for a long time and good good times create weak men. It's true. Did you guys see that streamer had her car set on fire? What?

Yeah, some Twitch streamer, some guy, she went to her house and set her car on fire. Was this Pokimane a while ago? No, no. This literally just happened. This story is from this morning or whatever. I didn't see it then. A Twitch streamer?

Yeah, some stalker guy. It's like, I understand people are would be scared and i understand why when watching something like that or seeing us get swatted so many times people would say i am choosing not to act but i but i think the literal definition of bravery is when you must and you are scared you do and cowardice is when you must and you're scared you don't i suppose i wonder if these people feel just don't feel like they must speak up they're like it's not a risk my friend's not about to get stung so why and so they don't to them they're not yeah perhaps my pet peeve in doing what i do has been all the people online telling others that you can't do what i do because you'll get rape threats because people will say mean things to you you've been physically assaulted numerous times probably 40 yeah yeah wow less i've had my arm broken but that was you know you don't have to do what i do you

don't have to go out at 7 p.m on montreal street like i did when i got my arm broken by antifa there's all sorts of ways to exercise your freedom of speech in the united states you can walk right into a state capitol through the metal detector and stand in the rotunda of the state capitol holding your signs you can't do that in Canada. In fact, if I go outside the legislature in British Columbia, even if I'm near there with my signs, they won't let me into the restaurant for a few hours after. You have to have a cool-down time.

Alright, we'll grab one more here. CLJ says, solitary confinement is one of the worst punishments you can inflict on a person. Had to do 48 hours as part of probation. I was in the cell by myself the whole time felt like a week yep especially when they don't turn the lights off my friends if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this youtube channel and share

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