Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #805 COUP IN RUSSIA, Media Reports Possible CIVIL WAR Starting In Russia w/Benny Johnson

Episode Date: June 24, 2023

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If you noticed, for those of you that listen to the Culture War podcast on Friday, there was a point where I was like, coughing something up, like I just lost my voice. And then I was kind of like sick Sunday, and then I'm like, yeah, I'll be fine tomorrow. And then I woke up on Monday

being like, I can't talk. And then Tuesday, I was like, I still can't talk. And then by Wednesday, I was like, okay, we got to get somebody to host the show because like one or two days out, and I thought I'd be fine.

But so a special thank you to Jack Posobiec and Seamus Coghlan for hosting the show. In my absence, I have returned. We are here to talk about news. And as we're preparing for the show, huge news is breaking. We don't know what's true and what's not. There's a lot of propaganda. You've got to be careful.

But the reports that are coming out is that there is a potential military coup or civil war starting in Russia. I'm going to stand back and be like, I am skeptical of this, but apparently the private military contract of the Wagner Group apparently is saying that they're going to stop the corruption in Russia, and then Russia is deploying troops to try and gain control of things. I don't know how much of this is true. We're going to talk about all of that, plus a lot of other big issues. I think we've got to talk about this cage match with Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, because, you know, I've been out all week.

I do want to address the debate that Joe Rogan offered up and the money. I know this is a week-old story, but I haven't been here all week, so explaining my position on why I offered the $100,000 to add to this and to refute a lot of the points that were made by some of these people that are clearly lying and just absolutely address. Look, they say don't have debates. We had a show with Emma Vigeland and Sean

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really really do appreciate it joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the wonderful benny johnson what up how we doing we out here we are i've been reading the comment section yes it is me up in the comment section with my timcast beanie. This is a 50 Cal. This is inside of the thumbnail, but it is also- Reveal. A reveal. A pen. It is a pen.

A sweet, I have another one here. This is from a company called Accidentally Awesome. And I saw these on their stand. They were in West Virginia at Charlestown. And I'm like, oh, 50 BMG, what's that? And I grabbed it.

I'm like, this has got to be something. That's a pen. It's wonderful. So, there you go. Cheers. Yeah. We got. That's a pen. It's wonderful. So there you go. Cheers. Yeah. We got Sean hanging out.

Hi. He's back. I live here now, actually. Yeah, yeah. After the early morning appearance, Tim is like, I guess you're here, so just stay here. Yeah, I was like, when are you leaving?

He's like, I'm not. I'm like, oh, come on the show. There you go. All right, we got Brett hanging out. What is going on, guys? It's Brett. I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday. You should go check out today's episode, but let's talk politics. Let's do out. What is going on, guys? It's Brett. I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday.

You should go check out today's episode, but let's talk politics. Let's do it. Before we get started, I just want to thank you, Tim, for taking the week off. It's a strange, bittersweet thing. It was an example of how this company can function and flourish without Tim having to be on the floor every day. The amount of people you know that are cool, the amount of employees that you've hired that are cool, that can take the reins and move this thing along, whether you're here or not.

It is, I think, when you look at companies like the blaze the where glenn beck started it but now he's able to just have a show and have a huge awesome company of interviewers and shows like that's the direction i love it it was wonderful to be a part of thank you what's happening surge uh yeah it was good but i'm glad you're back tim it's uh gonna be easier to keep on the rails than with uhamus running everything. I heard he spilled water during the show. Yeah, he spilled it right on your keyboard. During the whole thing. During the show. And everybody saw it happen. Yes, it was live on air.

So, anyways, glad you're back, man. Let's go. Alright, so here's the first story from the Daily Mail. Coup fears as Wagner Army marches on Moscow to target evil military chiefs. Kremlin accuses a leader of mercenaries, leader of mercenaries, leader of mercenaries,

of inciting civil war, puts its troops on Capitol streets and vows to smash armed mutiny as state TV runs emergency bulletin. This is crazy. They say there are fears of a coup in Russia as military vehicles were seen in the streets after the chief of the,

is it Wagner Group or is it Wagner Group? Wagner sounds cooler. I think the chief of the Wagner Group. Is it Wagner Group? Wagner sounds cooler. I think that's actually the appropriate pronunciation. They called for an armed rebellion and direct challenge to the Kremlin. Yevgeny Prigozhin tonight, Prigozhin, said his force had crossed into Russia as he called for the ousting of Russia's defense minister and vowed to punish military leaders whom he accused of killing 2,000 of his fighters. The Wagner chief said, we had crossed state borders.

We'll destroy anything that gets in the way. We go all the way. We got this photo here. Armed vehicles were allegedly on the streets of Moscow. So the first thing I had to say is, what is that saying? Believe half of what you see and none of what you read or hear or whatever. I don't know, something like that.

Take it all with a grain of salt. I don't know for sure. But I will this when i first heard this story i was like what did nato offer him double like this is how it goes with pmcs he's fighting in ukraine they're getting demolished and then he's like it's not worth the money he's a he's a private military contractor what does he care and then nato says what are they paying you dude and he was like you know 50 million he's like okay we'll give you 200 and he was like okay sure that's all it takes right money printing machine goes brr this is the danger of hiring mercenaries to fight a war uh happened to the rome i don't know if this is exactly what happened with the romans but they were having they were bringing

in mercenaries from all over the world to come and fight for the romans because the roman citizens got to a point where they didn't want to fight anymore and then uh that's the beginning of the end because those people do not have any allegiance to your country this is the american revolution they brought in the british brought in german mercenaries hessians yeah uh is that it yeah and those are the people who got routed by uh when when when when george washington i almost said joe biden my god uh when george washington crossed the the Delaware, it was the Hessians who got routed. Christmas Eve. Yeah.

The famous painting, right? The most famous painting of the Revolutionary War. That's who he was going to fight. The Germans, actually. Yeah. I mean, there is obviously value to having a more robust fighting force, including mercenaries. But if you're relying on mercenaries, you're in a very precarious position. This is what I never understood. You see a movie where it's like someone hires a hitman i'm like and they always say like what are they paying you i'll pay you double it's just like why would why

would not the it hasn't be like well okay sure are they going to turn me in if i if i don't do this i don't think they're you have a reputation to protect as a hitman though but this is something that we see there's a great book called the modern mercenary and there's a phenomenon that they call neo-medievalism because one of the problems during the middle ages was that people had an allegiance to their lord their god and their king so whenever there was like a you know a conflict broke out that was between any of them you had to pick your own um you had to pick which master you would serve. So, you know, mercenaries have different interests, different loyalties and all that. So obviously we might be saying if this is

true, that neo-medieval order like establishing itself once again in our modern society. So they're, you know, they obviously aren't loyal to Russia. No. He says, quote, there are 25,000 of us and we are going to figure out why chaos is happening

in the country promising to tackle any checkpoints he said he uh i asked that no one offer resistance is 25 000 really enough to do anything i mean if they're centralized just in moscow yes like they could take some building or something but i just want to point out that we are no longer in the era of being able to take over a country by occupying a building. And it's kind of crazy to think that was the case at some point, like a bunch of dudes would run into a building and they were like, we're in charge now.

And everyone would be like, well, crap, they're in charge now. Yeah. Worked in a Pinochet did that. I think with, uh,

what was I end a Salvador? I end a, and, and Chile, there was in London's in the seventies, I think it's like, they just went in. But once you get the leader, that's what he wants is he wants the defense minister.

If this is real. He doesn't care about the building. But if you can get the people, if you get Putin, then you get Putin at gunpoint to tell the people, I concede. I step down. You know, you get the leader to do what you want them to do, I think. Well, power is influence, right? So symbols of power do matter. So occupying Moscow, even though strategically you're like, you're right, like they could move to another city. You know, the Russian government has access to nuclear warheads. You would think this doesn't matter. But symbolically occupying Moscow is a huge deal. And if people believe that this mercenary group is more powerful than the defense minister, guess what? It's more powerful than the defense minister.

Has anybody ever occupied moscow since the beginning since the kiev the the old kievan princes yeah kiev i mean everyone right every empire died trying but like that's the latter group right like it like this is it the u.s finally figured something out they were like hold on hold on we can't invade let's pay someone else to do it. There you go. Oh, the French occupied Moscow. We didn't just figure that out. I think America's been doing that for a long time.

Moscow's been occupied six times in its history by foreign armies. Wow. The Polish in 1610. Do you want me to tell all of those? When was France? France. When was France? French occupation, 1812.

Napoleon made it to Moscow. I i didn't know i didn't realize that i thought it was crazy napoleon the summit of the french but then what did he try he tried going further he lost his army on the they only occupied it for 36 days the city was devastated by fire this is all from wikipedia um and i'm just kind of oh yeah it wasn't like they destroyed everything the russians napoleon couldn't have any supplies and then he got screwed over in the winter and was like we're dying scorched earth policy as you retreat you burn everything so that the enemy doesn't have anything is that scorched earth i thought was when you destroy everything so they cannot raise a defense like you destroy farmland and kill civilians you could be right because sherman's march to the sea i think was the first modern

example of scorched earth whereas he south, he just started destroying farms and killing civilians and just wiping them all out. You could be right. The Romans did it to Carthage. But there is a tactic where as you're being occupied, you destroy everything. Didn't they do that with Richmond? The south, they sacked Richmond to prevent the Union from being able to utilize it or something like that. I don't know. That is common.

It's a very common and when you're desperate you to burn your uh your defenses as you as you retreat so that the enemy's not able to occupy i mean they're doing that in ukraine who do you think blew up that giant dam the nova dam wasn't the russians well this is the funny thing like nord stream for instance they're like russia blew up its own pipeline and you're like nah like nah that's no ukraine blew up the dam is this this is not definitive though this is like you've got warring propaganda so the new york times uh did a report on how ukraine has sort of poison pills all throughout the country to blow up their own infrastructure and the washington post said that they did a test strike on the dam uh earlier in the year like they did an operation to test so you can just connect the dots there

yeah and i think that the blowing of the dam flooded or has potential to flood crimea the crimean peninsula that's right it really hurts the russians to blow up the dam and it's always a bad thing who benefits from this so the pipeline that was destroyed is the one that allows them to transport oil and gas without going through ukraine so obviously that gives them the ability to cut off the ukrainians from energy so that would be a prime target for the ukrainians to destroy or their allies being the united states or whoever like it wouldn't make sense for russia to cut off their own strategy this is a it's a good kind of and they're and they're sorry they're winning

too aren't they it's all propaganda it's tough to tell. But here's what I noticed. They've been saying, Western forces, Western media has been saying Russia's been losing the whole time. And then I keep looking at these maps of territory and Russia's expanding its control over the Donbass. And I'm like, I'm confused. Now they're saying that this region where the dam is, is controlled by Russia. And I'm like, wow, Russia controls how much? I thought they were losing.

They're getting pushed back. I thought there was this big offensive that pushed back into Russia. But Russia controls all this land? I was like, it doesn't sound like they were losing that they're getting pushed back i thought there was this big offensive that pushed back into russia but russia controls all this land i was like it doesn't sound like they're losing i mean i'm not here to say they're winning or anything but it doesn't sound like they're losing dude i don't know though i don't know there's a lot of propaganda this will be if this truly is that the russians accidentally shelled 2 000 of their own mercenaries and now the mercenaries turn on them that will be remembered for tens of thousands of years if we have history for that if we can maintain it it'll be remembered as one of thousands of years if we have history for that if we can maintain it it'll be remembered as one of the largest military blunders ever in the history of humankind i just

don't believe it yeah it's a it's a for that convenient piece of propaganda exactly and it's it's much simpler that a multi-billionaire went to the wagner group and said we will give you 100 billion dollars to your company you will be the preeminent in the Eastern Hemisphere, military contractor for all of our work forever. You will want for nothing, side with us. It's a simple question. You go to the guy and you say, do you think Russia is going to win?

And he's going to be like, is it really worth how much money he's paying you? Well, this is what we do. It's like, we'll pay you 10 times as much and you'll win. And he goes, that simple we did just have a what 6.2 billion dollar accounting error that's where it went no joke maybe whoops and now the guy's got six billion dollars i hate it probably like dude he made he makes a video claiming whatever he wants how much money they have to give him to make it happen probably not a lot he makes a video claiming whatever he wants, how much money they have to give him to make it happen.

Probably not a lot. He's a private military contractor. He runs a business. If he works with Russia and Russia ends up succeeding or pushing in this fight, his only customer is going to be Russia. He's looking right now. They're probably telling him, listen, once this whole thing dies down, you've got potential conflict in country A, country B, country C, country D.

You've got China, Taiwan. You've got the entire continent of Africa and South America. We can hire you for all of these things. But if you operate with Russia, that's the only customer you will ever have. And what are you going to buy? They may have even gone on and said, after we flatten Russia, where will you live? With all of the great money they paid you will you buy a building in siberia perhaps or how about this we give you a billion dollars you turn out of russia and you can buy property anywhere in the world heck we'll give you an island not a hard deal that's the danger of using mercenaries there's an island called little saint

james that is recently unoccupied and it has a special temple on it that's brand nearly brand new lightly used special blue and white temple those are your colors right wagner blue and white you'll love this place it's got a real eastern european flair to it yeah this is the pro i mean yeah i mean i think you might i i mean obviously i think you might be right here i'm i'm furiously searching for the map the wartime map because actually russia's gained a enormous amount of territory of ukraine's and this ukrainian offensive that they've been talking about has done nothing it's actually been an absolute total failure you don't hear about it because we're propagandized as much as anyone else in the world but the the the ukrainian spring offensive has been very, very bad. And as you can see where all the money is gone, it's now in flaming tanks and personnel carriers all throughout the eastern front of Ukraine.

And the most effective group, if you go through on the YouTube and some of the YouTube channels and you're able to do the Google Translate thing and you're able to listen to these Ukrainian generals talk, the people they're actually scared about is the Wagner group. That's the people they talk about. They say the Russian army is ineffective. It's this Wagner group. These guys are actual operators. They are sophisticated. They're smart. And they also have a wartime experience.

So they're not rattled at all because Russia's putting a lot of young guys on the front lines. And so if you go through and you watch some of these YouTube, the Kiev post is the one that I watch, right? Because they have these insight and these interviews with these Ukrainian generals, and they talk about how worried they are about the Wagner Group and how skilled of an operation that is. And so this is clearly something that is,

if you were to take them off the board, off the chessboard, well, hot damn. I mean, this would be a big thing obviously for ukraine i always thought about mercenaries and what a what a a hard life that is because the the people that hire you to fight want you to die in the battle that they win they want you to win the battle but die so they don't have to pay you so it's like they don't have russia doesn't care about these people like the russians they want to win and they would rather not pay them, to be honest. Obviously, they would like loyalty over non-loyalty, but mercenaries know that.

And if you kill their men, man, they are not going to wait. We don't do very well with taking care of the people who fight our wars either, though. So it's not like that's, I mean, I see what you're saying. But in general, I don't really think that in most cases, many of the people that come back from war are really taken care of in any way, shape or form. So veterans make up 11% of all the homeless population in America. Veterans make up 11% large portion of the suicide. Our veterans. Yeah. We do use mercenaries in part because the soldier death number is what always gets reported

because the American people care about soldiers dying overseas. And when it's personnel, even though they're former soldiers that served our country that went into these mercenary groups, it's not as scary of a number. So there is some more concern in the United States for at least the death toll, especially overseas. And we started upping our use of private military after we started withdrawing troops at a certain point, right? Back in 2013 or something like that. In Afghanistan? Yeah. So just to clarify, because people are pointing out scorched earth,

two super chats saying that it's when a defending army destroys everything. Another person responded, it's actually both. But most famously associated with offending armies destroying anything of use to the place they're occupying but there are several circumstances in which people in their own countries destroyed everything as they were fleeing but scorched earth uh the specific examples when you pull up sherman's march to the seas like the most notable modern example and that was when he was like destroy the farms destroy the railroads anything they can use the the purpose was to destroy their will to fight so just to completely demoralize i've thought about

the third right did this in russia like when they they were on the edge of moscow as far as the third right got in russia and they were as close as any modern army's been to to conquering moscow and man they burned the they they burned everything on their their way back. But we got to talk about a more important fight. That may be on our hands. Ladies and gentlemen. And it's not Ukraine and Russia. It is Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Vox.com reporting.

Why in the world are Elon and Zuck planning to punch each other? Their supposed cage match has petty online roots. All four of us as the boys are fighting. Okay. I love this. They are 51 and 39 years old, respectively. And we'd like to inform you that they're gearing up for a cage fight in an unconfirmed location, but possibly Las Vegas,

on a to-be-decided date. Elon Musk signaled his interest in the match on Twitter a few days ago. Zuckerberg naturally confirmed that he was in through Instagram. So what's the latest on this? This is going to happen or what latest is dana white uh came out and acknowledged this is real they're very serious about it they want to do it this is the coolest thing zuckerberg has ever done they're saying the weight classes like the the different weight classes will make it difficult for them i think this is why they should go to mars they should have this fight on mars that's it's like um But the other thing is like

Elon's mom was saying she doesn't want him to do it. I put a poll up on our chat today. I asked people, I said who do you think would win? And I think they're wrong. I think people are saying Musk is going to win. And if you've seen the videos of Zuckerborg doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu,

he looks like a robot when he's doing it. His face is completely blank. I think he ends up winning this one. So I just want to say this. First, the first question is, will this actually happen? And I lean towards it won't. I hope it does.

Can you imagine the insurance policy you'd have to have to run this fight? There's a 37-second video of Dana White. This is a good point why it won't happen. Because every investor in Facebook and every investor in Tesla will file an injunction immediately and be like, if one of you gets knocked out,

we're gonna lose billions of dollars. You know, that's a good point. Cause Dana said, Dana White, the owner of the UFC said that it would raise a hundred million dollars in pay-per-view and it would be the biggest, most popular fight of all time. Yep. But you're right. A head trauma to Elon Musk could end Tesla. And then they're just like, you make one bad decision and your board votes you out.

They're like, we saw you get hit in the head by Zuckerberg. Like, we can't trust you to make decisions anymore. And Musk is 51. Yeah. And Zuckerberg's a trained, I mean, I don't know how trained but a trained jujitsu fighter so let's let's talk about this though zuckerberg does jujitsu he does i've there's that video that went viral where he claimed the ref claimed that he tapped out but he didn't and zucker got all got all mad about it uh elon musk is just a guy however elon musk is also much much

much larger than zuckerberg zuckerberg's actually a little dude. Also, do we- Is he like 5'8 or something? 5'7. 5'7. 154. 150. And what's Musk? 6'1, 6'2.

And 195, which I think is kind of conservative for his weight. He looks pretty big. There's no way he's 195. That's what he's listed as, minimum. What? Yeah. Nah, I think he's more than that. I think he's more.

I'm saying it's a minimum. I'm 190. Oh, his height is 6'1", 6'2". Right. For that height alone with his build, he's looking at 210, 220. So my executive producer just went to Twitter and met with Elon. ALX. He's been on the show.

Everyone knows ALX. Great guy. Awesome. Great dude. Follow him on Twitter. Blew past 500,000. And also, by the way, Benny Brigade, thank you for 1 million subs this week. We just crossed that milestone on Wednesday.

So God bless you. Thank you. ALX has been my executive producer for five years. Met with Elon Musk. And he's like, yo, I'm 5'2". I'm sorry, 6'2". ALX is every bit of a tall dude. And Elon Musk was taller than him.

Wow. Elon Musk was a big guy. ALX tweeted. He's like, Elonk is way bigger than i thought he'd be in person have you seen the photos of him on the on the boat with bezos he's a he's a big dude he's a big dude also the the other thing for it for for musk is like i just don't know if like can they find the time to do something like this is there really time to to get something like this done uh when you're running five companies i think so because they're both robots you know and they know

that they don't sleep time is relative so when you create a piece of art that goes on the internet that is seen a hundred million times it creates like when you think of time you're creating a hundred billion minutes as opposed to spending maybe 7 000 minutes to get it done you you've actually made more time more importantly if then if they can find the time to do this is is Elon going to make the time to train? Because Zuckerberg has a head start, and he's younger than him, and he is fighting right now, and he's training with the best. He's a billionaire.

He can afford anybody. So can Elon, but Elon's older. Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate says, I'll train you. Jorge Masvidal says, I'll train you. Jorge Mas, Jorge Masvidal says, I'll train you. Elon Musk. There's been a bunch of MMA fighters that are like,

I will train you. Sam Hyde, Sam Hyde. He's the guy. No, I think, I think Andrew Tate, if he goes to Romania and trains with Andrew Tate,

that'd be hardcore. Cause even that would be awesome to watch. We live in such a weird world where it's like, you just kind of accepted this dude who might or might not be a human trafficker is going to train the guy who runs five of the biggest companies in the world to fight another dude who's worth more than some small country's GDP. And you're just like,

whatever. Like back in the day, this would have happened on Celebrity Death Match. No more. The simulation is broken. The simulation is broken. Take the cartridge out, blow on it, put it back in. Reset The game. You just accept that.

Like, is this dude who's maybe guilty of unspeakable crimes really possibly going to train this dude? Who's now got people mad at him because he won't let them say sis on Twitter. It's, it's a weird world we live in. Do you think it's a good idea for them to fight?

I mean, yeah. Cause I think I'm, I'm all for the hilarity of it all. I think, I think it's hilarious, but like, I mean, if I was an investor in either of these companies i don't know if i want the guy especially musk who's like the brainchild of those companies facebook is kind

of its own thing now right face like i think facebook does fine if if zuckerberg isn't around anymore musk is very much a forward-facing persona that is the face of those companies you can't have that dude coming out here looking like reagan in the second administration and like looking like he doesn't know what he's talking about right like he has to be coherent he has to know what he's talking about he has to look like he's on this game all the time two things one um do you well first of all elon musk smoked with joe rogan and tesla tesla stock plunged immediately so this would have an impact if he got knocked out.

Great time to buy. Something to be worried about. And number two, are you guys a little bit worried that Bezos is getting into shape? Zuckerberg's doing MMA. Like they know something we don't know? No, they know something most people don't know. And it's you got to eat right, take care of yourself.

That's just it. That's right. Do you think they're preparing for something where they might have to engage in mortal physical combat? like societal collapse no no no i mean bezos is in shape because he's got his new wife he's going to take his other half of his money i think if you take a look around you'll notice a few things people are drinking a lot less i mean i've noticed we've noticed that anecdotally because we do this great booze selection and people come in and we hear this all the time oh i stopped drinking recently we also know that millennials drink a ridiculously lower amount of soda than past generations yeah

it's the first time in american history that soda is not like the number one drink in america i mean i hate it we have these uh these liquid deaths where the total sugar count is six grams i've actually in this whole can i've gone to kombucha uh it's not expensive you get a lot of it it's it's like a sweet tea fermented no sugar it says yeah i think they sweeten it with an alcohol sugar but this is my point when it comes to all of these guys we see them they're very visible but the reality is the trend and getting healthier is just across the board well you should the wealthy do eat better than us like covet it was covet freaked me out i i'm fully focused on physical health tell that to bill gates Gates, though. Bill Gates.

Ian has a filet mignon every day. Every day, a nice wagyu beef. Raw. I'm just kidding. It's good to have your heroes and the people that you look up to in society be masculine men. If you're a man, it's good to have testosterone flowing through your veins. Mr. Beast tweeted recently that he's getting in shape and that he called himself obese and that he's been training

every single day and eating right and stopping drinking. And I think this is a wonderful example to set for young men, actually. You shouldn't want to be a slob filled with microplastics

and unable to defend yourself or support your family. In my case, physically support my family because I need to pick my little kids up and down or you know or walk up the stairs right to literally be a father you have to be a masculine man you have to have energy if if not a cage match for the issue of the stock and potential lawsuits and injunctions they need to do some kind of like manly sporting

competition arm wrestling p in contest arm wrestling baby yeah they're not gonna get hurt they're not gonna get hurt arm wrestling at least not not severely but don't let me do the slap game though right no like the helmet thing but maybe wear like helmets right or something american gladiators make fun of them but yeah but our visors they fight with the giant toothpicks american gladiators yeah bring that back that feels very mus Musk to me. There's meme potential in that that I think would be fantastic. That's a good one.

Maybe we do like five events. It's like arm wrestling. It's the giant Q-tip thing where they bop each other with them. Maybe a sock-em-bopper on a bridge where it's like you got the big airbags. So I do want to say this as somebody who was raised in Iowa, that don't count out Zuck because he's shorter or smaller. We've been having this size comparison. Elon's a big man.

Like, dude, these short guys, growing up in Iowa, the reason I say that is because it's wrestling country. Everyone's a wrestler. And these little guys, these little guys who've wrestled featherweight, like 120, right? 120 or 110. They're little dudes. And they have those cauliflower ears.

They will kick your ass. Those guys will cause you more pain. It's not the little guys at the bar with the cauliflower ears. You gotta stay away from. Those guys will hurt you. I don't know if I'm supposed to tell this story, so I'll just keep it very vague, but someone we know who was a fighter said that

he was at a bar once, and some guy was mouthing off and he was like, just leave me alone, dude. And then his buddy was like, dude, dude, dude, stop and pointed to his ears. Oh yeah. He said that on the show. I was watching that show. Yeah. That was awesome.

Yeah. And it's just like, I'm pretty sure like you see that and you're like, it's not that they're a good fighter. It's that they are a fighter and you are not. Don't, don't go in that room. Also, when you're little, you always feel like you have something to prove. Never piss off a short cop ever in your entire life it's the worst thing in your entire life because they're quick to anger and they're always going to be trying to prove themselves

just don't do it so if this fight if this fight comes to term i prophesy zuckerberg goes for there's going to be some weak weak strikes zuckerberg goes for the legs wraps them up really fast puts him in some pain that he wasn't expecting and and musk is out that's my then the undercard can be all of the people that work for their companies like their vice presidents fight and i i love it i love it you know it'd be even better though if they're if they're in the middle of their fight all of a sudden there's like a sound or a horn trumpet and then they look up in the rafters and there's Jack Dorsey. And then he like ropes down. Yes.

Like Shawn Michaels. Yes. Exactly. That's right. And then you start hearing this like glitchy house music and Elon Musk calls in a Tesla bot that comes and takes his place, taps in and it's like an AI, AI versus Zuck. And then Zuck rips his human exoskeleton off his face and he's like lizard people they fight right ai versus the lizard people they finally have the

battle we've all been waiting for somebody can just make this movie now we don't need this to actually happen and joe rogan's calling it right joe rogan's there hold on hold on can we just can we just go back to reality for one second? Joe Rogan will be calling the fight. How insane. So when we saw that story where it was Trump's in the audience with like Kid Rock and like who else was there? Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson. And I'm just like, what?

What's this? Dana White. Dana White. Donald Trump. Donald Trump. Kid Rock. Mike Tyson. And Joe Rogan's in there calling the fight i'm like this is the weirdest we live in a simulation they just tell me i'm sorry that's just it rogan we

got to give some credit to joe rogan this guy people love him obviously but like he brought people together humans together across so many strata of reality like it is so awesome to watch doctors hang out with fighters sorry benny were you about to say something i'm just everyone's saying that uh donald trump needs to be the ref i'm gonna be hot get him a nice pin white stripe black and white stripe shirt i i have so much love for rogan not only just because of what he's doing with the show but the fact the grand macro scheme of what he's how he's been able to bring people together i think i'd rather have trump do announcing with Rogan.

I think he would be better off in the announce booth. Like as the color commentator? Yeah, that would be amazing. It's tremendous. Trump would be biased against Zuckerberg, right? In the fight. That's funnier. It's funnier if he has clear favorites that he's picking.

He's going to run all his grievances against both of them. He's like like this guy begged me for support during uh now he's gonna submit so the real question we need to ask is like how do we make something like this actually happen even if it was wwe style where it's all fake and silly and over the top would be the best thing ever that was my pitch it's like maybe you should just have wwe do it because you could actually write storylines for these people and it would be really really funny to watch the the writers come up with something absolutely ridiculous i'm here for it bezos like shows up and then it's like battle royale and they're all just in the ring bezos comes in and helps zuckerberg and then

dorsey comes in and helps elon elon because like, yeah, you're my Twitter brother in arms. You bought it. You bought it for me. And then they become the Twitter tag team. Like, let's do this. This is this is the it is a simulation. I mean, Jack Dorsey is wearing Twitter 1.0 and Elon's wearing a Twitter 2.0 shirt. Suddenly, like the lights go out in the entire arena and you hear, I don't know some type of latin music from the amazon and in comes an

amazon drone with an amazon box and in the box is jeff bezos he bursts out of it right he comes in an amazon truck they back up an amazon truck and a guy's got a dolly with a box that he carts into the into the into the cage and they're like what's this then he puts it down and then all of a sudden it just bursts open. And there's precedent for this because Stone Cold Steve Austin. And he's like, I'm in my prime. Stone Cold Steve Austin once drove a beer

truck to the ring and jumped on Vince McMahon. We can have Bezos drive an Amazon truck to the ring and just jump on top of both of them. This is perfect. Let's do this. I want to see them bust Elon, pick up Zuck and like smash him through the ground

and as he falls down lands on like the next scene which is they're fighting on a starship. Can we make that happen? The Babylon Bee had a meme today that said like

Zuckerberg and Elon solve their differences by playing GoldenEye 64 only slapping each other in two player mode. Yeah, but you got to play on a license to kill mode where one hit kills

if you want to do that. It's awesome. And then you're like going like this back and forth. One of them takes Blofeld because he's smaller, so they can't actually slap him. Oh, Oddjob. Oddjob, sorry. What did you say? Blofeld.

Blofeld. Who's that? That's another character. Oh, really? No, Oddjob is the short one. And we always had the no Oddjob rule. Yeah, you can't cheat. Jaws sucked, too.

What do you mean? He threw his hat yeah people the best would be the one person that like unites them all right because that's the thing you need if you're writing the wwe script somebody has to show up that unite then they have to for join forces right like the power rangers i don't know communist party like i don't know if anyone's opposed to the the oligarchs you know what i mean like yeah she's here. The, I have to be like Logan Paul, but Xi Jinping would be the best heel. Xi Jinping would be amazing. Evil.

Like the, the bad owner. He'd love it too. That's right. The sweat shops in the background. He always did the, like the evil foreigner stereotype and all of them. I mean,

that's his name. The iron chic just passed away. So Xi Jinping would have to take over for the iron. He doesn't even have to say anything. He just kind of stand there and like chill and smiles a little bit and you're like do I trust him or not? I don't know. Put him in a Winnie the Pooh outfit. Yeah. Let's just we're going to completely jump off the cliff on

this story and just move on to politics. We have this one from Fox News. Karine Jean-Pierre spars with reporters refuses to answer Hunter Biden questions in testy exchanges. I thought it was interesting because the way it was described to me is that the press corps has completely turned on the Biden administration. I mean, Ian and Benny were both like, it was bad. Dude, we should watch at least part of the four minute

video of the reporters, one after the other, picking up where the other one left off. Creamy, like, I'm not answering that question. You, what do you want? And they're like, well, I just want to continue with their question. She's like, I'm not answering it. Okay, you. And he's like, I want to continue with the old reporter's question. It was stunning. But you were saying, Benny, that they're like, they're done with them. And this is, they're getting pushed out because there's the Hunter Biden story. And then there was more importantly, the Ocean Gate scandal.

Yeah. Where apparently the government knew for a week that this sub had likely imploded and they didn't tell anybody. This is the this is our federal government's version of order 66. Joe Biden's getting order 66 right now. If you see it, you'll never be able to unsee it. Follow some of the New York Times writers. Follow some of the Washington Post writers. Follow Chuck Todd. We have to do it professionally. I would never recommend you do these things Because you'll never get anything useful What you'll see is the order has gone out You are now allowed to attack You are now allowed to ask your question

Why does Chuck Todd After three years Chuck Todd finally finds this story interesting And he leads NBC Nightly News With a seven minute episode on this CNN's reporter at the White House Was the one house was the one who's the most savage in this video that we're going to watch hopefully uh to corinne jean pierre

oh yeah cnn new york times nbc news they're all ganging up on biden nah man order 66 went out let's play this clip here we go oh it's not working what's going on i'm wondering if you could take us into the thinking and decision making of why CNN asking this question. I'm just not going to get into family discussion, personal family discussion. As you know, Hunter is his son. I'm just not going to get into this. If Hunter Biden wasn't the president's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors? A couple of things. Again, that's his son. It's a he's a family member. It is not uncommon for family members to attend events at the White House. You could look at past presidents. I'm sure you have. So that is not uncommon. Let's jump ahead.

So here's the thing, and I appreciate it. The United States was involved, as this message seems to suggest, in some sort of a coercive conversation for business dealing by a son is that something so this is they were referring to this text that went out where what hunter was basically like i'm sitting here with the big guy right now and we'll put all our force against you as you do it he says i'm sitting here with my father and he says it twice in the text multiple times yeah uh it's a whatsapp text and it has not been refuted this text seems legitimate so his lawyer responded to the text today confirming hunter biden's lawyer responded the, confirming that it was a legitimate text, that the text is real to the communist Chinese apparatchik. Wow. And what was the defense? Oh, my client was on drugs at the time.

Sitting next to. I just want to point this out. I kid you not. So this morning we did the first of our new. So the idea for the culture war show was always to be like having the debates that we sometimes have on irl but don't fit the format we do topical news here having someone on who's going to debate turns into a debate show so friday morning will be we had on emma vigeland and one of the conversations we had was me saying i don't quite understand why there are so many people on the left who don't like joe biden but will absolutely defend him on these scandals instead of just saying, sure.

And for some reason, we got into the argument. And this individual, she was very much like, I don't think it's real. The Burisma stuff's not true. You know, there's no evidence to prove it. Shokin was not investigating Zlotchevsky, yada, yada, yada. I'm like, I just, he was like, I don't understand. But now i'm wondering if if they're going to change tune these uh these these lefty types now that we're seeing

the signal flare has gone up it is now open season to to go after joe biden on the on this corruption scandal i think so this is i was like this is one of the most jaw-dropping pieces of news media i've ever seen in my life i mean it is it is incredible anyone that cares or has been following the hunter biden scandal the stuff with barisma anyone over the last three to four years watch this video watch it from start to finish so if you're gonna want more when it ends i don't know if they they only got three and a half out of her but i mean this is a tactic that can be continued to you be used by the news media until forbid they were supposed to it's like they're supposed to ask about these stories but it's but this is this is the point i

was bringing up in the in the in the debate show i'm like how about if you don't know whether or not joe biden did or did not engage in a quid pro quo you just say yeah i don't know enough about that but i don't like biden so i'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt how about you just say i'm not going to comment for some reason there's this adamant need among these left personalities like i'm not talking about liberals either like leftists will be like i don't like joe biden i won't defend him but this story is not true and i'm like you don't know anything about the story why are you defending him this is what we see it is it is the establishment narrative line it is it is you are not approved the new New York Times can come out. How about this? Politico magazine can come out outright and be like the Biden family.

A fortune has tracked perfectly alongside Biden's career in government. His brother getting contracts to do construction in Iraq and things like this. They Politico made a timeline of it. And then they come on and say, never happened. And I'm like, I just don't understand this need to be like nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. Biden's perfect now all of a sudden with the corporate narrative shifting probably because they don't want biden for 2024 now i'm wondering if we'll see these left personalities

be like we never liked biden what are you talking about that's exactly what's going to end up happening because they consider the mainstream narrative to be their kind of god in a lot of ways they don't know how to see things through any other lens because they track anything else as propaganda and anything else is anti as anti-establishment, which gets a label of being like it's against them inherently. You can't ask questions. Honest. They don't think you're asking your questions.

Honestly, they think you're asking your questions to trap them in something because you have your own agenda rather than the agenda of just wanting to know what the hell is going on. That's a cult, bro. It's because you're evil and you brought it up and right-wingers brought up that Burisma tape thing. So, like, therefore it has to be invalid. And, you know, you've asked two people about this on air and they haven't seen the video, which is fascinating. Yeah, every time we ask a liberal or left personality about the quid pro quo Joe Biden thing, fire the prosecutor, knock him to a billion dollars, I've never heard of that.

Or they say it's RT, so it's not reliable. But it was just a clip from the CFR. It was like... No, it was C-SPAN. Yeah, he's bragging about it. But if you want to see that clip now, isn't that on RT? That's on Twitter. The behavior isn't necessarily solely on the left.

It's a reactionary behavior. And you can get it from people that are either, it kind of comes from fear. I mean, that's a vague term, but like people that are afraid to be trapped, I think for sure. I think that's a big part of it. It's like people like you,

they feel like you're about to lead them into a corner where they don't have enough information. And so their inherent reaction is to just lash out. Plus they've had a lot of things held from them for the last two years, three years, after all the social media networks made sure you didn't know what was going on with Hunter Biden, made sure you didn't know what was going on with Burisma. I know plenty of people who just don't even know what that is, who don't know anything that's going on there. It's because, but for a public figure or an online figure, agreeing with somebody on the right or the

people who shared that Burisma video is worse than the hypocrisy because who's going to call them out on the hypocrisy? Only people that they perceive to be more on the right than them. That's a cult. So like they don't see this clip. Like again, people, prominent news cover headline news and politics on a daily basis. Come on and they say, I've never seen that clip. You had

the show with Hunter where he said that clip doesn't exist. And then he actually smuggles like that never happened. Yeah. And I was like, let me pull the clip up for you and you can watch it happen. Like I don't understand and I he didn't he didn't know and for him for him that might be fair because he does more cultural stuff and he admits that but like for her and she does presidential politics on a

daily basis and she's like I've never watched the clip. It's a question of why Hunter said that never happened instead of just being like I'm not familiar with that, but I'm not going to defend Joe Biden. Yes. I still don't understand. This actually.

Oh, man, this just happened. Keith Oberman saying that Hillary Clinton never smashed her cell phones. He just got destroyed. Nancy Mace tweeted. Nancy Mace. This just happened online for all of us to see. And he got community noted into the sun on Twitter. Nancy Mace goes, well, it's a tweet, and please feel free because it's awesome.

It's the best community note ever. He's like, you know that didn't happen, right? Yeah, Nancy Mace is like, Donald Trump gets arrested, right? Classified document thing. Nancy Mace is like, yo, Hillary deleted all these emails and then smashed all of her phones with a hammer. And Keith Oberman says that never happened. Duh. That's just lying.

That's literally like a couple of days ago or what? It was about, it was at least a week ago now. Like that. The thing is about that is that's just bad faith. They're doing that because they know that they have large audiences and there's no way they're going to agree to what you said because that tweet then lasts forever.

So they're just lying because it's beneficial to them but then it got community noted uh uh through like through the stratosphere with all these links including a cnn fact check which is the greatest cnn fact check to ever air ever on any the probably the best 60 seconds to ever air on any cable news ever where cnn had to get fact checked on air that hillary clinton did in fact smash all of her devices with a hammer that was from their supreme court reporter it's great it's boris epstein it's classic have you seen the fact check from one of these websites on that specifically it's that hillary clinton destroyed her devices and they were destroyed with a hammer but she had a staffer do it therefore it's like

mostly false right right she didn't acid wash she didn't acid wash it it's like the the weasel words are almost unfathomable it's like when you make a claim it's you better be the most specific as humanly possible otherwise you're a liar but they can make any general claim and then it's like well you know it's obviously true about you though like you are especially if they're accusing you of something. You're right about specific. It is so important in this age of if you think we're in a culture war that you use the right words, that you are very specific. And then Hillary Clinton, no, I'm sorry.

A Hillary Clinton staffer then took a hammer. It was this ounce hammer, and they smashed it on the ground. You have to literally say the exact thing. Otherwise, they're going to use that because they know they don't care if people read the fact check they just want people to see that there's a fact check on it false partially false or mostly so this this is a really good so i pulled the tweet up uh nancy mace hillary clinton used a hammer to destroy evidence she did but you can argue the semantics of it wasn't her personally but uh she used bleach bit which is an open source software to purge a hard drive, make it

unrecoverable, and then her staff used hammers to destroy the phone devices. He responds, you know that didn't happen, right? Are you okay? You seem to have been hallucinating a lot lately. Of course, he's fact-checked then by CNN, Business Insider, and Snopes, proving Hillary Clinton did in fact have her phones destroyed by a hammer.

This is a crazy thing. I don't know if they're lying or that they're just... Is the problem stupid people on the internet are tribal and will attract followers and continue to say stupid things? And then we're just arguing with brick walls. I used to give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. Very rarely do I give them the benefit of the doubt that i think that he just didn't know that i think that a lot of them are just acting in bad faith like like because that's because

semantics do matter right he says it didn't happen like he said says everything you're saying is false it's wrong not that your words are somehow incorrect or hillary didn't do it personally he's saying everything you're saying is a lie which is really important she said hillary clinton did it and that's not true her staffer did it and that that's stupid that's that's incorrect it's it's if if you were going to if i claimed definitively a statement of fact hillary clinton used a hammer to destroy evidence in a private email server as a hard statement of fact that that that's action proof like judgment proof that is a fact statement that is true and provably true now if i were to say hillary clinton grabbed a hammer in her bare hands and in a blinding rage shattered those phones that would not be true hillary clinton did use a hammer to destroy the devices she had her staffers take

a hammer and use the hammer to do it so it it's a question of when it comes to statements of fact, whether there is defamation or not, what Nancy May said is a true statement. You might argue, well, you should clarify Hillary Clinton had staff members destroy phones with a hammer, and that's probably a better way to phrase it. I don't think she was thinking, I don't think Nancy Mace was like, how do I articulate this perfectly? I think she was like, Hillary Clinton used a hammer to do this because she did.

Just if it does imply that Hillary personally did it, I think clarification is fine. Keith Olbermann is either lying or just, this is the problem. Keith Olbermann clearly is either lying, which I think we all would agree may be the case,

or he's really really really dumb and arrogant that's possible he is both dumb arrogant and lying the point of semantic arguments is to obfuscate the point of the discussion it's to get you distracted and now you're no longer talking about what the actual consequences of the emails are the point of it is to talk about oh now we're talking about that's very bad i'm waving it's no longer so now, now we're talking about, that's very bad. I'm waving at shame. It's no longer, so now you're no longer talking about why she destroyed the emails,

why she destroyed any of this, why she deleted all these things. Now you're talking about the semantics of the argument and then you don't even get to the actual debate about what happened. And that's basically

social media in a nutshell. And they would do anything in order to say it's mostly false or partially false. So if you said she destroyed her BlackBerrys and one of the seven devices was a Nokia,

they would be like, oh, you liar. Who was the guy with the Nokia? That's the real question. Who was the guy with the Nokia? And they use the red and green color too. This is what Snopes does. You will come out and say, Hillary Clinton had her phone smashed with a hammer.

Snopes won't take that statement because that statement is yes or no. They will make up their own question did Hillary Clinton smash her phone with a hammer we're not saying that we're saying that she had it done they've reframed the question so they can then say mixture

well Hillary Clinton did not personally destroy what I love what they do is the headline question of the game is one they do there's also the false qualifier statement they'll do. Donald Trump will do a backflip off the balcony of the White House and land in a superhero pose. And they'll say, did Donald Trump actually do a backflip off the balcony of the White House into a superhero pose, comma, on Sunday? False in big letters.

They'll then write 500 words about the story and the claims at the bottom and say, well, it is true. He did the backflip. It was on Saturday, not Sunday. Lie by structure. Exactly. Making sure that they read. You got to click the CNN link. That nobody ever reads to the end of the article.

The CNN one's the famous one where they're like, no, no, pull that up. Pull that up. This is from a while ago. Let's play it. Is it going to play? They might have an ad. It might be in there. Oh, no.

No ad. Why? Because the FBI had an exhaustive year-long investigation. They talked to probably dozens and dozens and dozens of people.

Hours and hours of testimony. And the decision not to recommend prosecution for was absolutely unanimous. Was it careless? Yes.

Was it a mistake? Yes. As Hillary Clinton said, I should not have done this and if I ever had to do it again, I'd make a different decision. But was it criminal? No. It was not criminal. So I guess that's the it again I'd make a difference it was a criminal no it was not criminal benchmark president is not

to be to be calm let's go through the farce is unlike 17 17,500 emails that she lied about turning over the server wipe within weeks of there being a report the share of private server it was wiped she thought that C which stands for classified stood for cookie or something which stands for class She thought that drone strikes are not classified. She said that the reason she used the private servers for convenience is that she only had one device. She used 13 BlackBerrys, let me finish, and five iPads. At least she doesn't just stick to either BlackBerry or iPad. This is somebody who is absolutely disqualified from becoming president. They destroyed BlackBerrys with hammers in the State Department.

That's not what won the presidency. Actually, Evan, Evan, Evan, hold on. Can you fact check that? Hang on, hang on, hang on. Here we go. Hang on, hang on, Evan Perez. Hammers? Fact check that for me, please, on the fly.

Yes, they did. As I mentioned, there were 13 devices, mobile devices and five iPads. She thought she did something there. The FBI said that, you know, in some way were used with her private email server. And they did, in some cases, just destroy them with hammers when they were done. Which doesn't do anything to stop, to get rid of the data on it. You can easily, you can, I think, I'll be very careful with my words. Even after these things are burned in fires, you can still you can i think on if i'll be very careful my words even after these things are

burned in fires you can still recover data from them and it's it's the smash it with hammer absolutely idiotic so the question then is why is olbermann asserting something that is not true is it because he's stupid and arrogant or is he intentionally trying to lie i i believe that the left has a munchausen by proxy relationship with their audience and that they intentionally lie because they know that they're a cult that will only believe what comes out of the glowing box and they want that cult to be manipulatable they need that cult to be actionable and there's they need them to be the npc meme right where you just take you take the chip out of the back of the head and you replace it with Black Lives Matter or the transgender flag or whatever.

So you need to be programmable. They want programmable people. George Orwell talks about this in 1984. You need these people to be programmable. The the value of a loyal servant is what lie will you swallow the value of the loyal servitude of the left the borg is will you say that two plus two equals five that's right there are five lights you mentioned the borg so i had to make it a star trek reference yeah my game is the famous uh story is when captain picard's being tortured there are four lights and he's told to say there are five and he refuses so they keep torturing him until, but he never does it.

I was yesterday, I was pretty down thinking like, oh, actually maybe evil triumphs over good usually. And they just tell everyone that they were the good guys. Like, what is this whole, I felt so down and so like hopeless. And then I was like,

oh, how easy it would be to just say, yo, go Ukraine. I'm all in. I'm gonna get my central bank digital currency. Just let me live in peace. I don't want to think about it. How easy. Yeah. Yes. The B't wanna think about it, how easy. Yes, the Borg, the Borg life is easy.

You sit back, you ever seen WALL-E? You just sit back, you're a slob, you're in your floating chair. Have you seen that movie, The School for Good and Evil? So I'm unable to work, so of course I'm just watching whatever's available and I watched this movie. And it's basically, it's like a kid, teenage movie or whatever, where, I don't know what the point of the movie was,

it was pretty dumb. But the idea is that in the fairy tale world, there is a school that has an evil side and a good side, and they train all the Prince Charmings, and they train all the wicked witches. And spoiler alert, I'm going to ruin the story for all of you to go on to, but you've been warned, spoiler.

The actual outcome of the story is the good side was corrupted hundreds of years ago and they had become vain and vapid and snooty and narcissistic and they were gloating about how good they were but they're actually fairly corrupted and evil and so you know that was your point like i just watched this movie and that was the idea they they actually conveyed that what we think of as good has been corrupted a long time ago and now it's just vanity it's like the biden administration you see this all the time signaling And that was the idea they actually conveyed that what we think of as good has been corrupted a long time ago. And now it's just vanity. It's like the Biden administration.

You see this all the time. Virtue signaling. They just wrap themselves in the American flag. They wrap themselves in democracy. Merrick Garland said it today. He was called on his bullshit today on going to a party last night at the White House with the guy he's supposed to be investigating. Two guys, Jim Biden and Hunter Biden. He's supposed to be investigating both of them. And Merrick garland is at a party with them so you said earlier so

merrick garland said today sorry to interrupt you but i just got to finish his comment today was if you attack the department of justice you're attacking our democracy that's what he said if you question the department of justice you're attacking our democracy lame that's doing it's always our democracy evil and you were saying smart people would impeach merrick garland and let joe biden run the reason that the reporters are going haywire now and just turning on biden is because they feel ashamed about how they were misled about the submersible story was that assumption that's what i that's what i think i think when you embarrass them and make them look bad personally they're petty and they get mad at that and as for the keith oliverman thing remember he's an anchor

actor he doesn't do what you do where you do your research and then somebody else puts the things in the prompter. So he might not be, I don't think he's technically stupid, but he might actually not be lying. Look, I think,

I genuinely think that a large component of the culture war divide is intelligence. And we were having this joke about doing a culture war episode where we uh i think seamus made the joke he said there's this new podcast where they get a bunch of you know young girls who have never was that was that shame yeah young girls have never been challenged on anything and then make them look stupid or whatever and then we were all joking about how we should have like a 56 year old phd conservative guy debate and like

three 18 year old like whatever podcast already do that yeah they did recently actually with like a 55 year old PhD he was like a doctor and he was talking to girls or he had some credential but the the joke was that the girls would actually win because the guy would be like when you read this study here we can see this from you know Sordenson at all they talk about and they're like oh you are so dumb and they're gonna start they're gonna start being like don't you think he's stupid say it again say you're dumb and he's gonna be like can you let me finish my point and they're gonna laugh then they're gonna start calling him names and he's gonna be like do you agree that there is a larger percentage of x when it comes to y and they're

like you mean like at a pizza shop he's like no i'm talking about the economics in this country and i mean you're you want to buy pizza and he's gonna be like i can't do this it's impossible these people and they'll be like that's not hot i'm gonna go have babies this is the culture war yeah this is the culture war when we sit down with someone and this is why you don't see liberals come on shows like this they rarely want to there's a small handful that do and they often grift and then i'm like this is the problem we run into when we do things like this when you and i and i it's kind of like rehashing the show we did this morning i know that but at the same time when i see keith uberman tweeting this it just it it it brings this up to me that you can't have a conversation with someone who is you can't argue policy with someone who can't comprehend policy.

And that is the culture war today. If you say something like, you know, I think that we need to, I'll give you an example. We were talking about the issue of trans kids. And I said, we have a study that shows desistance is 68 to 95, 61 to 95% with no intervention. That would indicate that no intervention is the safest course of action for children and emma did not understand that and said but the doctors say it's good so we should do it and if if my point is the study we have suggests x and the responses but the government but i shouldn't say government but the the authority says it's good we're not

you can't you can't convince someone who doesn't understand the math or the science or the argument it just it's a brick wall i think that's a debate tactic appeal to authority it's literally i said that over and over and over again appeal to authority and that's why the school system's so good at it right because they're trained to appeal to authority right from the very beginning so they're just going to defer to whatever the person in charge says even if there's data that proves that person in charge to be incorrect. So a really good example of the challenges we're facing in the culture war from this morning, for those that listen to this show, y'all know that we've actually had this debate quite a bit over what it means to, uh, to, uh, support parental rights. Rhonda Santus passes this bill for the legislature, the parental rights and education. And then we have the

conversation of what, what does it mean to be in favor of parents' rights? What if the parents want the right to have a doctor prescribe a sex change to their child? Well, every conservative media says, no, you don't have that right. And the government should stop you. Okay. So it's not parental rights. Then on the left, I actually asked Emma, what about the government mandating children get vaccine? She goes, well, yes, I believe in public health. And I'm like, okay, so you're not in favor of parental rights. You can, saying you're you're you're for or against parental rights is a completely meaningless statement because everyone's moral line is going to be completely different we talk about that quite a bit she could not grasp that concept and it's very difficult

to have a real conversation with someone who doesn't understand the or not even that but can't actually comprehend basic moral philosophy so it's if we're if we're sitting in a room and we're saying let us break down why we have the policy should we enact a different policy and how can we make the lives better for everybody and they say duh i don't understand what you're saying we can't carry on that conversation she called hypotheticals right wing. She was like, I'm not going to engage in your right wing tactic of hypotheticals. It was amazing.

It was wild to hear that. So, but this is exactly the point. You get a bunch of people. When I was mentioning the conservative PhD guy and a bunch of young girls who are just giggling and laughing and saying, you're dumb. There's no conversation to be had.

Now here's the real challenge. Those three giggling, dumb, vapid teenage girls have three votes to that conservative PhD's one vote. And this is what we're dealing with in the culture war. And I bring this up because I'm seeing like the Keith Olbermann thing. When it comes to issues of Burisma, when it comes to issues of Hillary Clinton doing these things, these are not left or right wing things. These are things that are discernibly true that we have questions about. I can sit here and be like, Barack Obama killed Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki

in a drone strike in a civilian restaurant in Yemen and he should be criminally charged and prosecuted and if found guilty, be held accountable for murder of an American citizen.

Donald Trump ordered a commando raid in Yemen, which reportedly, according to the family, resulted in the death of an eight-year-old girl, Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki's sister. That should be investigated.

If it is brought to an investigation trump should be charged same as obama however i think that story might be a bit less credible than the obama one which we know for a fact did happen they've admitted to i still think both warrant the same legal jurisprudence i can say those things but for some reason when you have a conversation with someone like keith oberman many liberals, they will just be like, the Burisma video never happened. And I'm like, you know, you're making that up because we have the video to play. It did happen.

And they're saying he was never being investigated. But we know for a fact, and there's a sworn affidavit from Shokin, there were a dozen investigations into into Mykola Zlotchevsky. Instead of actually engaging with you, they'll either be unable to actually comprehend the moral philosophy or the math and science by what you're arguing, and then they'll just lie. I think the tribalism nature of it short circuits their brain just a little bit. Like you can't actually go forward when you have a dog in the fight of who wins. if we're okay with the idea that Obama is prosecuted for war crimes and you're also, you also have to be okay with the idea that Trump would be prosecuted for the same thing if he did indeed do that same thing. But if they have a dog in the fight, if they say, no,

I cannot let Barack Obama or Joe Biden or whoever fall because I believe so strongly in the leftist cause, I guess it's not really liberal. It neoliberal at best like you can't allow new data because you're just not going to believe that that's actually true you just think they're trying to get one over on you because they believe that you're every bit as tribal as they are sort of but i but i do think cognitive incapabilities is a strong uh is a stronger component of this a couple examples when we had Matt Binder on, he kept saying, you think trans people don't exist,

which is a nonsense statement that conveys no logical thought other than it's a thing the left says. And when I responded with, they certainly exist. I think trans kids exist. We've had trans people on this show. What are you saying?

He didn't have a response because if you're not smart enough to actually understand a position, you'll just say thing. Then we had Lance from the surf side and he said, you're for forced birth. And I said, what does that mean?

And he did not have a response because it's a thing they say. There's no actual substance behind it. It is very much like an NPC in a video game you walk up to. And he says, welcome to the end. And then you'll, you can type in whatever you want. How is your day to day?

And they'll say the end sells wares and they'll never respond to you proper like they never get past the they never get past the slogan right so they hear the slogan repeated enough times on social media it's almost like your brain bypasses actually putting thought into what that means so it is kind of like what you're saying they are just kind of programmed and i i do think there is an aspect of it because like i don't i'm i'm a dummy i'm i. I'm a dummy, but I'm also not biased. I don't really care who's guilty or I care about who's guilty and who's innocent. I don't have a dog in the fight of whether it's Trump, whether it's Obama. I just want it to be, I want the facts.

But everyone in this room right now, and I would say the overwhelming majority of guests we have on the show, can understand a concept of A plus B equals C. So if I i say here's my position they go oh okay i understand i disagree with you whereas these conversations with these lefties is just like blank stare confusion and then nonsense response i really think a lot of it more just has to do with the tribal i think this the tribalism short circuits their brain but also maybe they don't engage in enough healthy debate with people that they generally agree with people here are going to agree and disagree on various things all the time, right?

Like we could have a debate on any topic here tonight. We may fall in line on some things and see eye to eye on other things. We'll see things differently. I don't think that happens to them that very much. I think they go with consensus. So Ben Rhodes did an interview. He was Barack Obama's national security advisor. And Ben Rhodes is the guy who's also found weeping when Hillary Clinton lost in 2016. You remember that video? He's actually sobbing out back.

And Ben Rhodes does this really instructive interview about how they were able to get so many lies manufactured and merchandised and laundered in the Obama administration about the Iran deal, about what they were doing in the Middle East, about the drone strikes. And he says oh guys do you know who makes up reporters you think it's a bunch of walter cronkites shuffling around with dandruff on their jackets being like well actually in the carter era he's like no and i'm paraphrasing ben rhodes he says it's 27 year olds they don't know anything they've done one campaign gig that's it one campaign gig for bloomberg

and they come here for the cocktail parties they'll believe anything i tell them and i can merchandise anything i want about the iran deal to them it's i can tell them any lie i want and they will just print it in bloomberg it's worse than that you get some 24 year old fresh out of college fifty thousand dollar a year starting journalist and you go to them and say i am you work in the government you say i'm going to be your source you are going to have all of the inside scoops on all of these stories and it's going to make you a household name and then they go oh boy i have a source and then they're going to go to their boss and they're going to be like here's my source in the government they'll tell me whatever i ask and that person's going to be like we are gonna get so many clicks

so they'll come to them and say source says that donald trump you know kicked a dog and they'll be like well then write the source said so and then we can't be sued for defamation because it's a true statement not that he kicked the dog but that a source said he did and that's my favorite was sources familiar with trump's thinking you remember all those stories yeah they're just writing nonsense garbage yeah so my my my my main point with all of this was you know and we're going to be doing these these these culture war shows every friday so it's going to be a whole lot more of this i really think that the challenge we face is the culture war may be people of the social media is granting access of people of low cognitive function to spaces of high level discourse and we respectfully allow them to have these conversations but it's

like a 55 year old you know phd political scientist having a debate with three 18 year old teenage girls who like don't don't do anything other than go on tiktok and instagram that's the and that's it and and you know here's the funny thing those 18 year old girls they'll tell you all about blm they'll tell you all about you know pride because they're on social media oh they posted the black square yeah they they were excited to post that black square and then they'll be like i know because i saw the video yeah and you you can go to them and be like here's the study it says you're wrong they'll be like nope i'm right yeah it's called cognitive dissonance at least one way to

term it and i think it is a good thing to have those conversations even when they feel fruitless sometimes because it doesn't all happen at once you don't change someone's mind in a moment. Every once in a while you do, but it's pretty rare. It usually takes time. And a lot of it is just about making people calm. I think that's a big part of the culture war and winning the culture war show today go to youtube.com slash tim cast check it out it was live uh emma vigeland uh sean uh fitzgerald aka actual justice warrior we were all having this this conversation i will say again i felt a little bad because it did seem like two two versus one because i wasn't intending on on that but i think there's one really important point that people need to understand about why i want to do shows like this i do not believe believe we will convince Emma or anyone at the majority report or any liberal or leftist of any of our positions, but I don't care.

What I think is important is that we produced a show where Emma said that she wanted children to be able to watch porn at the age of 10 years old. And so I'm like, I don't need you to argue that point to me. I don't care. What I need to do is when I'm talking to my, my, my, you know, my friend from back home in Chicago, who's telling it never happened. I'm going to

play that clip of me being like, we should not be showing a book to children that contains blowjobs and have this person on the left say we should, and it's fine. And they're okay with it. And I'm like, that's all I needed. I needed for you to say it so i can prove to people you believe these things so they can i'm like you're allowed to believe that uh and she did adamantly defend uh kink education and pornography for children and i'm like you can absolutely be be on board with it i'm not telling you to just to stop believing any of that i think it's disgusting i just need you to say it say it right there to the camera for everyone to watch. So that finally, when I go to my friend and say, you know, these people want put porn in schools, they'll say, that's not true.

I'll be like, let me play the video for you. Let me let me show you the clip where they and here's the book. And now they now the book. Oh, I guess they do support those things. The Borg will end up ending your career. So to come here today, I flew into Virginia and Virginia, by every right, should have a Democrat governor. Why don't they? Many would argue that Terry McAuliffe was just unpopular or whatever.

Nope. Actually, it goes directly back to a single point in time. Their previous Democrat governor on a radio show live like we are now said that children should be born and then the mother should stare at her child in the bassinet and decide whether it should die he said they should comfort the babies resuscitate them comfortable and then the mother should have a decision of a post-birth abortion i tried to explain that to because i'm i'm from minnesota what's the governor uh northam so in minnesota they just passed similar legislation, right? And I was trying to explain to my friend

this was 2018 when this happened, right? It was 2018 or 2019. And somebody's like, that sounds crazy. Like, that's a one-off. That's where I'm like, no. This is becoming mainstream. And in a couple of years, it will make its way to places like Minnesota where the government is shifting very, very farther left with

what's his name um Walt right so it's like you you don't get to just laugh it off and stick your head in the sand and say this isn't happening or I don't think it's that huge of a deal like it's like there is an argument to me like depending on how politically active the person you're having this discussion with you have to watch your tone because if you get too because these things upset people right you're like no this is real and you shove it in their face a lot of times people just shut down and they don't want to they don't want to have that discussion right that's a lot to just throw on someone at a moment's notice but i think it goes to what you're saying about keeping people

calm because you have to keep them calm and informed because as these things continue to happen as these things continue to grow in other legislations you need the evidence that these people actually think this way because it does sound ridiculous that's child sacrifice by every definition that's the sacrifice of a child that's child sacrifice it's not like i'm it's not a pejorative okay metaphorical child it's a literal child sacrifice like aztec level child sacrifice is what the governor of virginia advocated for and so democrats need to own that because that's their party and you need to absorb the fact that that's what you represent they just run fact checks saying it didn't happen it didn't happen it didn't happen and then what they'll do is they'll run a headline says didn't ralph northam in on a video advocate for and

explain post-birth abortion false and then what they'll say is the governor was referring to babies who were born with abnormalities who could not survive on their own and need resuscitation he was not talking about abortion weasel words is that true the point is you you can't abort a baby that's already been born wouldn't be post-birth abortion it'd be a murder exactly sanctioned death if you make it legal and so they they can say he wasn't talking about abortion because the fact of the matter is he's talking about killing a baby but he was talking about killing children that had like severe deformities and wouldn't survive. I don't think so.

No, no, he was not. He was talking about a bill on the floor of the Virginia Senate. They had written that bill and the bill was written in a way that the mom could decide that once the baby's born, she doesn't want it. There was a judge that asked, what was her name? Was it Nancy Tran? Was her name? do you want some of the facts real quick he said something at this rate with your bill a woman could get an abortion up to the point of birth and she goes there are no restrictions and he goes the baby is crowning and she goes there are no restrictions yeah and so that's what he was talking to specifically was it was it uh it was

like if they botched it a late term and then the baby was out of the womb then what would you do i think was the context for north i'm saying yeah well i always make a decision it's kathy trend i always say nancy for some reason sorry they're saying they're they're taking a mother who's gone through something that is like physically traumatic right the entire process right and she's starved of oxytocin her body's going through all these things they're saying hey you want to keep the kid that's insane that's insane it's insane that's insane but oh snopes did you see it uh the the claim virginia governor ralph northam uh quote stated he would execute a baby after birth mostly false i hate these people it's not totally false just mostly false because it's ambiguous they don't make us play the're going to make us play the clip, aren't you?

Alex Jones was on our show and did a great Ralph Northam impression. Did Virginia Governor Ralph Northam say he would execute a baby after birth? They put it in quotes. And they put mostly false. So it's kind of true. He did not state he would execute a baby. See, nobody said he said that. And the ambiguity of Northam's remarks about late-term abortions, which has not since clarified, raised questions about

what exactly he was proposing or advocating. He literally... All right, do we have the clip? Do they even play the clip? Oh, man. Hey, props to them for playing this. Can we... This bill would remove the following statutes.

Trap or targeted regulations of abortion providers... Let me see if I can... ...is worthy of an abortion. I'm not going to play the whole thing. Mr. Chairman, I am... This is another thing. Like, they should play this clip. The Northam clip

is short. And if you can find that, that's short. He's just like, you know, the baby will be kept comfortable while we decide. Let's turn back to NBC4's Julie Carey. And governors, you know, the issue of abortion rights emerges every year in the General Assembly session. This year, no exception. There was a very contentious committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County Delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions as well as other restrictions now in place. And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion even as a woman is essentially dilating ready to give birth. And she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor. Do you support her measure and explain her answer?

Yeah, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for Delegate Tran, but I will tell you, one, first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers. Programming. Here's the programming. The program to answer. The mothers and fathers that are involved. There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.

And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion. But again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers. And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way,

shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body. Nonsense. Wait, wait, wait. Should have to weigh in as is currently required. She's trying to lift that requirement. Well, I think it's always good to get a second opinion. I wanted it to play out to show you that the context did not circle back and that there was no other further clarifying points and i want to stress he outright said the context of the conversation was no restriction abortions up to the point of birth and he said yes and the doctor and the mother should make that decision and then he goes on to

explain a circumstance in which the baby is delivered and brought into another room and i'm sorry for interrupting my headphones cut out i thought that the clip had ended sorry about that though that this is i mean be be capable have the moral fortitude to call people demons be capable of calling out demonic blackened spiritual activity when you see it they want to desensitize you they want you to think that this is normal. This is not normal. This is depraved evil from the pit of hell. Do have the capacity as a moral person. You don't even have to be a Christian, Muslim, Jew.

It doesn't matter to me. As a moral person, you should be able to stand up for the life of a small, helpless infant who was just born, as I have held my little newborn babies in my hand, and say, you do not deserve to die. And someone who is wishing to take your life is a literal demon. Thank God that man and his party lost in the great state of Washington. So I want to point out the Snopes headline. Mostly false. He did not state he would execute a baby after birth. Well, that's an opinion statement. If we said that he verbatim said he would execute a baby, that's false. But if I were to say Northam talked about executing babies and said that that's exactly what would happen, that's a true statement. Snopes is obfuscating

this. They say the ambiguity of his remarks about late-term abortions, what? She asked, could a woman get an abortion at the point of labor he says well yeah you know it's up to the doctor and the mother to decide if it's up to the doctor the mother decide he's basically saying that they could choose yes if need be so the simple point is the left immediately goes to he's talking about deformity and abnormality and my response was like you think deformed people should be killed like that that's crazy to me i don't think so i if the baby's alive don't kill it what a great question okay so should all deformed people be killed like what about a 21 year old deformed person what does that mean this is the crazy thing even when wheelchair be deformed me and this guy over here pro-choice arguing with a leftist about this stuff and it's the weirdest

position to be in there it's because there's no moral position behind their words they are just regurgitating what they were told. And they're trying to, you know why? You know why Snopes lies about this? This is the point I was making. The reason why I want to do these shows, why we had, I believe, Matt Bender, as well as Lance, say there should be no restrictions at all on abortion, even up to the point of birth. Let them say it.

Because I'm not here to try and convince them otherwise. I need them to just say it to the camera so that we can show people they actually believe that. You got to point out where this leads, though. This leads to eugenics. This is simply eugenics. Iceland. They've eugenics down syndrome. That's right.

That's and the third right did the exact same thing in the comment sections. When you talk about that are crazy. Just like, yeah, of course you should get rid of the people. Like they actually believe that. Like the people in the comment sections, anyone on Twitter talking about that, absolutely 100% believe it. I just want to point out that I hate the way that Northam talks.

Like the way that he answered that question, it's like this lefty newspeak and you should really like listen in. So the first thing he says was, I wasn't there. When the question was, there's a viral video of this woman answering questions it's like who cares if you were there i wasn't there but i can see the video so it's a misdirect all right off the bat he says consent two or three times because consent is a positive word like are you against consent what's wrong with you like and it all that leads up to him own goaling himself and saying well the baby will be

delivered and you know we put a blanket around it and then we'd have a conversation about killing it it's it's the craziest thing possible yeah right it's insane but he masks it and all this like distraction here's cbs news from 2017 uh what is it okay they obfuscate the headline inside a country where down syndrome is disappearing iceland is on the verge of eliminating Down syndrome. Okay, now hold on. We don't want people to have Down syndrome, but we don't kill people for having it. The left advocates for the termination of a life

if it does have Down syndrome. I do not believe that having what they would describe as Down syndrome. I don't believe any view of that, negative or positive, it's mostly negative, warrants the death or cessation of life. That's insane to me. But the

left and Iceland, for instance, they literally argue a goal of abortion is to end the life of someone who has Down syndrome. To me, that is psychotic. And I'm pro-choice. Traditionally. Not in the current leftist sense, which makes no sense. I think they've gone off the rails. The whole point of him bringing up the part about deformities is because what he's preying on is the idea that you would think that nobody would do it if there weren't deformities, right? Why would somebody do that? Not realizing that most of the time when this

stuff is happening, that's not necessarily going to be the situation that's going to come of it so when they leave that conversation they don't leave that convert they don't leave that clip watching that clip thinking he just advocated for people to be able to abort abort a child after it's born what they leave with is him saying well he's saying that if somebody's deformed then why would you do you understand what he said most of these cases are deformities and other problems but the question was blank at all no restrictions and he did not say he was against it he said he was in favor of that he just shifted the what about when you're the narrative what about when your deformity is wearing a maga hat yeah or like having a sixth

toe right what about when your deformity is that your dad was a conservative what about that well what about when that's the deformity? Because that's how this always goes. It always goes like that. And that's the way it always goes. The deformity for Margaret Sanger was a race she didn't like. And that is why Planned Parenthood was started with the express intent of getting rid of a racial population that Margaret Sanger didn't like. And that's why Planned Parenthood was started in the inner cities. These are facts.

These are straight facts about Planned Parenthood and where they come from and what they were intended to do. What's amazing is that eugenics is that if you're in favor of curing down syndrome, like, you know, some kind of medication

that would like raise their IQ so they no longer have down syndrome, they would be against you. They call you an ableist. Like you're a bigot. What's wrong with you? But killing them before

they even exist, like eliminating them in that way. Well, that's woman's body, woman's choice. Like what's wrong with you? Like, why do you hate women? So it's wild. Like if you know, they went after that autism organization

because they had finding a cure still on their website. Also, I mean, that's very common also in the deaf community because they consider it part of their identity. So a lot of, they don't want the cochlear implant. They don't want to change it because they've considered it part of who they are, right? So they're saying the same thing amongst, uh, about learning disabilities, which is not inherently, but it's one thing for you to not want it, but it's very interesting

that they don't, they find the idea of curing deafness to be offensive. Like, yeah, I think it would be great. Like designer. I'm, I'm open to this conversation about designer babies, uh, CRISPR technologies, like genetic technology of things in the womb babies in the womb things but creatures in the womb of any kind um and i think if you could cure blindness or deafness in the womb early on of course you would do that i i can't imagine anyone why anyone would would want not to do that if it was safe if it was tested there's like a there's like a there's a zoo in tampa and there's a small animal that has, there's a there's like a manatee that was born with like a little flipper Nemo, yeah like a

Nemo, right, and these manatees are really cute and it's in Florida, right so there's this big manatee tank and you go underwater and it's cool lighting and there's neat music and you watch the manatees eat these giant balls of lettuce and they just gobble up these lettuce, it has this huge animal only eat lettuce

anyway you see this famous little manatee only he's got a little flipper you're arguing for the killing of that manatee like look what you're doing as a leftist is you're saying that you should have seen the manatee's flipper and as soon as it was born as a little teeny

little ball of goo a joyous little ball or a, or whoever you happen to be. The pandas in D.C., they're very famous. You're taking the panda who's born. That's a miracle because it's very hard to breed pandas in captivity. And you're taking that panda and you're like, ooh, but the panda's black stripe isn't exactly down the middle of its face. So see ya. And you take it out back.

You keep it comfortable while you take it out back you keep it comfortable while you uh take it out back an old yeller that thing that's what you're arguing you're arguing that these deformities apply the deformities to uh cute little animals now you see how monstrous it's the logic well i'm actually against the pandas like if we set this whole thing up for you to hook up and you just refuse then honestly like you kind of don't deserve like to continue i understand like tribal hard life where it is like we are on the move and if we do not keep moving we are gonna our entire tribe will be wiped out and you're like your baby is not able to breathe properly it's not coming with us kind of like i understand where it comes from but we don't live in that society right now we don't although but still i i still support you know a woman's right to choose early on in the pregnancy personally uh up to like you know what

what is it 16 weeks or something when it's still in early development that's my personal thing and if you find out that but i think a lot of times autism doesn't or uh down syndrome doesn't show up until later in the pregnancy so that conversation what i was just making is kind of a moot point like i don't know what point does that start to show up in the pregnancy? I don't know either. I want to play this very short clip from Freedom Tunes, because we're big fans of Seamus. So, Seamus, we're playing your clip. Let me unmute this and just play this for you.

Have no fear! Democrat Man is here! Democrat Man! I knew you would come save me! What seems to be the problem? I'm poor and have a rough family situation. I know just the trick! Oh, boy!

Where did you go? I traveled back in time 12 years and had your mom get an abortion. What? Yeah! All in a J's work. What a Democrat man! Oh, my God.

Or if it's Canada now, you can just choose maid. Look at that. Perfect. Get that camera out of my face! Ha! Yeah, that's right. You got paid. Shout out, Seamus.

Yeah. I thought that was really good the the argument that a child would be poor is not an argument for ending the life of the child yes that and it's just i don't know i had to play that clip it's too good oh i looked up down syndrome usually detected between 10 and 13 weeks in the first trimester that's what they start testing sometimes they're wrong and i've heard really horrible stories from a lot of parents where they were told by their doctors the child is sickly. It's not going to make it.

So you need to get an abortion. And then they said no. And then they had a normal, healthy kid. What a strange term. Down syndrome. Like it's supposed to up syndrome. Like down. Like is that because it's down?

I think it's named for someone. It's just down. There's no S. I thought it was downs also. It's a down syndrome. So my wife and I had our second child last year. And the doctor comes in. This is something that is horrible for every parent.

You get all these checkups and you get the ultrasound. And they do these very sophisticated ultrasounds. The doctor comes in and goes, I'm really sorry, but you got a problem. You have a, let me see if I can remember this right. An aortic, some type of aortic affibulation where your daughter's heart is not developing correctly.

And you'll, worst case scenario, she won't be able to survive when she's born. Best case scenario, we could maybe do, we could maybe do a open heart surgery when she's born. And so we'll have the team there and we'll try and we'll make sure that like, you know,

we'll have the open heart surgeons there. No promises. That's what they told us. No promises. And that's what the medical experts at this very sophisticated, very good hospital, excellent hospital, a private hospital a private hospital catholic hospital told us i'm not trying to put them on blast because my daughter was born and she was perfect she was perfect she was a perfect angel from god and then we brought her in she was breathing her heart rate was perfect even after every expert told us we're going to need to do open heart surgery on your daughter when she's born we bring her in for her first week uh checkup to check this specific heartbeat issue where her heart valves weren't developing correctly and they're like it's fixed it's a miracle wow it your daughter's heart is the exact words were

perfect now i'm not saying that anyone advocated for me to get an abortion they never pushed us to that but what if you are young and what if you didn't know any better and what if you didn't have the same life that my wife and i have and you heard that and oh man i'm just gonna carry this baby to term and it's not gonna have a heart and won't be able to survive and then everyone in the media and all of these prominent influencers are like don't feel guilty don't feel guilty just just no no this is you living your truth and you actually you are doing the kid a favor and so my beautiful bubbly one-year-old named juliet would not exist today uh because medical science which was wrong which was 100 wrong or i'm just the recipient of a miracle

i'll tell you the other way is that i'm a recipient of a miracle i'll tell you and and and god healed my child i think right either way either way they were wrong and my child is the i couldn't imagine my life without her conservatives need to understand that you're not going to legislate cultural morality. This idea that you can make something illegal is nonsense. Marijuana is illegal. Everybody in the country is smoking it like crazy. So this idea that you would approach the issue of abortion by saying we should just completely ban it outright, I can certainly understand the pro-life argument.

Well, you would get rid of a lot of it. Sure. You need to focus on mending the culture. I think Ron Paul said it well. I think it was Ron Paulul he said it should be it shouldn't be illegal it should be unthinkable if you have a culture that gloats and laughs and mocks and does like what's that comedian who went on netflix and said everyone gets abortions you get an abortion shaw wolf i think that's her name and i think lena dunham said that although she'd never been pregnant she'd wished she had gotten abortion or something to that effect that is a diseased culture that is like a culture that is sick and in need of help

so that we get to the point where we say like that shouldn't happen why is it happening that people are promoting these things that are bad and then you know we say let's not do those things we have a movement to de-stigmatize everything because stigma is considered a dirty word but stigma is actually valuable and we should use it more often in specific circumstances like shaming is also a good public tool for bad behavior like we need societal pressure to disincentivize poor behavior and it goes well beyond this topic in my opinion yeah i feel like we could take another two hours to talk about the porn industry and making that illegal part of it but it's 9. We're probably going to Super Chats pretty soon.

I don't want to take us too deep in. We're going to Super Chats. What do you mean? Well, like you porn. There's potentially underage people on there and it's not very well. Even I think Emma on the show was saying that it should be legal for nine or ten year old step.

I wasn't there and I didn't see the show. I'm not putting words in your mouth, Emma. But to have access to, to be able to see pornography, like you were, you were referencing a book in the library. I specifically showed genderqueer. And then she, I,

she, she didn't give like a good direct answer because they, they, you can't, but she said that I was in favor of censorship when I argued that children shouldn't have access to books that depict kink and porn. And I said, yes,

I am. And she goes, so your support censorship. I was like, yes, I am. And she goes, so you support censorship? I was like, of course I do. I was like, first of all, if you watched this show, and if you watched my show at any point, you'd know that we actually praise censorship all the time. When we talk about how some things you, I was like, so do you want Playboy for kids in schools?

Do you want Hustler? Like, what's the line? This book is teaching children about having kink sex with an auto androphile. Children should not be reading that. And she actually said that she defended the teacher who gave instruction on using Grindr to 10-year-olds. I'm like- She said it was a good book.

Right. She said, this book is called This Book is Gay. And she said it was a good book. And I'm like, kids should not be learning how to go on Grindr to have sex with adults. We need a revolution in sexual education in our current society because of the way pornography is proliferated for nine-year-olds to gain access to on the internet if their parents aren't watching or if they go to school and a kid has a cell phone yeah um and i i don't know if if making it illegal like you're saying if we can legislate it away i mean you can take you porn down and that

will reduce the amount of it but it doesn't mean that it's not gonna we people will still share things on their phones uh kids will still share pictures of even themselves which is still illegal uh but if they were to when when they went after porn hub it eliminated a good portion of their content because they did not verify the ages of a lot of the girls. I don't think that we should, let me put it this way. When the internet first emerged, nobody cared because it was small and they were like, eh, nobody uses it. There were those, there's those famous videos where the newscasters are like, this internet thing's not taking off. And there, and then someone was explaining how you could buy a movie ticket. And he goes, what's the point? I can walk down there and hand them cash. You're wasting my time.

This is never going to take off. And then of course, the internet is everything now. We need to recognize that we're not, we're no longer talking about someone walking in a dark alley with a dirty magazine and those things sometimes happen. We're talking about someone buying a billboard in Times Square of Goetze or something like that.

And any kid can just stumble upon it and go, ah, and we probably need to say, yeah, you can't do that. But we, but I got to say say we have become in many ways it's it's our it's anarcho-tyrannic we've become authoritarian in a bunch of ways and horrifying libertarian in very very bad ways so we need a cohesive culture that permits liberties in some areas and restricts things in other areas we have it backwards right now we we open internet access to insane psychotic porn where kids are getting access to it should not be capable it shouldn't be able to happen but we're just like well it's free speech it's legal you can show all of it and then it's like okay there's a moral question about the limits here

you might say don't tread on me or whatever. And my argument is, you're literally allowing people to sell graphic images to kids and we need a way to deal with that. There are serious challenges. When we saw the CISA and, do you remember these? CISA and- CISPA.

Yes, I do remember these. CISPA, CISA, whatever. They were under the guise of child protection. We're going to try and censor free speech on the internet. So figuring that out is very, very, very difficult. But I don't accept- CISA.issa sissa that we're in this era where everyone just knows and accepts that a 10 year old kid with their phone is going to see you want to talk about dark stuff they can get access on their phone to videos of murders happening of like snuff films yo when i was a kid back in my day i'll tell

you what these are things of vhs legend it was like faces of faces of death you ever seen now if a kid a little kid wants to watch someone die they just google it you know and but for us it was like dude john's got faces of death no way and. And you might, might get to see it. Maybe. I never actually saw it. I only heard about my friends who one time saw it. That's one place. You'd go to the,

you go to the, you go to the video store and they would have a room with a curtain where it's like, you got to be 18 to go in that room. Kids could not go in that room. So you couldn't see these things. I was just the other day,

I was on, I was looking on Twitter as the video of the rapper dying on stage. And I'm just like, he, they're saying it's like, people are like the conspiracy is that it was from vaccine injury right but like rappers just on stage had like i don't know if it's a heart attack just keels over and dies and i was like was it a big

show uh yeah it was i mean it was it was like uh i don't remember his name but uh it's like a houston rapper and yeah just it's like a 45 second clip you see him like he's performing he kind of stops he hesitates and then he just keels over and dies probably a hard attack the founding fathers of the united states were dudes like these guys were legit as far as i can tell the evil if evil wins they will tell you they were the good guys but i think they were pretty good the constitution stands for itself what would they have done with this internet he was he was a big dude yeah he's a big dude he's not super he's not like morbidly obese he's obese but you watch the video and you see him he his body just kind of tenses up and he

looks like he's like he stops and then he just keels over like i'm i'm literally legitimately they they deleted on my twitter account the video of the immigrant stabbing people in france i think they deleted that twitter right yo and And do you agree with that? That's tough because Twitter is not a space for children. It is a it is a news reel. So I think a sensitivity filter with an age restriction probably would be the appropriate way to deal with it. But Twitter was probably reacting to negative fears of advertisers and negative press.

It's simple. Put a put a sensitive filter on it. Make it so that not only do you have to be signed in to see it, you've got to press a filter button and enter your age, so it's triple layered, and then it keeps the newsworthiness available for people. You make it so ads will never appear next to it, and kids shouldn't be able to get access to it,

assuming they're logged in and of appropriate age. We do got to go to Super Chats, though, but there's a difficult question there. All right, I'm not your buddy guy says, our socialist healthcare isn't great. Here in Alberta, a woman who needs an organ is being left to die because she won't get the covid jab even our federal courts have refused to hear the case wow he goes on to say congrats to benny for the 1 million subs finally i hope people still hear what happens here in canada once bill ccc 11 bill c11 comes into effect we'll find out soon

i guess we'll welcome china da congratulations on a million was that you just hit a million or this week yes oh wow fantastic benny johnson show on youtube or on twitter on youtube nice dude benny johnson they're gonna send you the gold plaque is that what we we have uh many gold uh uh awards we use one to prop the window open shout out to youtube you know look youtube's been uh youtube demonetized you know we we should talk about this we brought it up uh days ago and it's it's it's it's and glenn greenwald's tweeting about it elon responded to it youtube unquestionably is interfering in the election for the benefit of the democratic party

hands down luke rudkowski has been on the show all the time and the Democratic Party. Hands down. Luke Rutkowski has been on the show all the time and he talks on his show about the exact same thing he talks about when he's on this show. Well, he might get a little spicier in some areas and talk more on foreign policy and they claimed reused content, which is a false demonetization. Luke does very similar

videos to me where he shows articles and comments on the news and they claimed it was reused content. Reused content is for when you take someone else's video and post it to your channel without doing anything with it so here's the thing that got luke and i dm'd him i said luke hit me up dude i know exactly what happened to you because i have it in my channel when you're doing shorts which youtube is pushing and pushing a lot of eyeballs to shorts. You need to be in those shorts and you need to be commenting on them. They need to say Luke was posting. Luke was posting full minutes of other people's videos.

Luke was posting clips and that hit my channel too. About a year ago. Without him in it. So you need his face in the corner or something while it's happening. So you need to comment on it, right? Dude, you got to see this photo of this kid in California. You you can't believe he did this at a blm rally you show the clip and then you're like dude that's that's crazy that's what you're right and then you you react right to to this youtube needs you to be in the creator needs to be in the content i'm not trying

to do shorts luke was doing for youtube shorts this happened to my channel so youtube shorts is brand is a relatively new product. I see, I see. You just upload a clip. Joe Biden falls down the stairs. You just slap in the clip in there. You just send it out. I wanted to talk with Luke.

I'm like, dude, this is what it is. You need to, you can't just upload any clip to Shorts. You got to be a part of that clip. I will say, stand corrected. Apologize to YouTube in that regard. And then criticize YouTube for taking down the video with rfk jr and jordan peterson which is a contending presidential candidate having his opinions taken down with massive approval in the polls that right there is interference i'm just trying to be a dude screwed up i'm just

trying to be a dude and say this is how like luke this is how you fix that that that issue um well the demonetization and the unoriginal content. Because it happened on my channel. All right, let's grab some more super chats. Atkinsu Ocha says, glad to have you back. Just like all leftists, that woman was hard to listen to because she kept putting words in everyone's mouth and wouldn't let others talk. But it needs to be done to further the conversation and respect it. Well, look, I appreciate her coming on. I know the majority of people really do want to come on this show.

Out of all the people we invite, they're the ones who are begging to come on the show uh emma hit us up and we're like absolutely we'll have you on but i do want to point out my favorite moment in the show was when she repeatedly asked she she asked me why what i liked about desantis's policy and then i started talking about covid restrictions and leadership and then she interrupted me and said no policy and then i said okay well the culture war stuff obviously matter a lot and then when i brought up specifically she goes no what is he doing now and i'm like okay well removing these books she goes i don't want to hear about anecdotes i want to talk about the bigger picture and i'm like you literally asked me for a specific example i gave you one and you got mad at me for it so it was like what i think happened was i believe that she was given talking points before the show

likely by sam or someone else at the majority report. And she had a list of things that she was Cedar all along. Well, probably. And so the issue is if she's told to say something and then I respond, she won't know how to respond to it because she only has one canned question and no canned. I got to watch the interview. It's getting it's building up. I've only seen like 15 minutes of it so far so i'm excited to watch this saying like what do you

support about desantis and my response is does he even have a presidential campaign i don't even i don't know what he's running on and i'm not for the guy like why are you asking me this there's but but i assure you they'll edit all of these things to be like here are gotchas that don't make sense i saw a lot of it on twitter so far tim are you being triggered right now i've loaded my voice after i've aggravated you right oh there's a term for that in psychology where you get the other person upset and then you're like you're so upset what's wrong with you i call it npr voicing when they go to the npr voice right it's funny i was watching a clip with joe rogan i was watching the joe rogan podcast and then he goes one guy asked

him a question i can't remember the question he goes what are you doing you're trying to make a viral clip right now he's like yes yes now his friend probably wasn't doing i think you joe was being silly but this is literally why we don't have these people on the show because they intentionally come on will say something shocking provocative or nonsensical so they can get a drama clip to make money let me just stress the majority report has like 170 clips about about dave rubin okay dave rubin it has his own channel and he talks but he is like look we we have a bunch of clips about biden and hunter and trump david packman has a bunch of clips about these people okay i get it we're talking politics here we're gonna talk about world leaders but dave rubin why are you making clips about dave rubin why

making clips about me world leaders baby they're not it's not it's because it gets it gets rage it's rage bait it's e-drama it's internet blood sports so this is why i'm like i normally don't invite people like this on the show because i know that all they're going to do is come on and they're going to say things with the intent to get a viral clip well know that that's going to happen it's called reactive abuse in psychology so if someone does try to trigger you or work you up in a conversation stay calm oh yeah but i don't care like you know the benny knows the thing where she got where she was like i'm sorry i triggered you was because she did the she literally said why do you think your show appeals to neo-nazis oh yeah i have an answer for that because i think people

that might be radicalized into becoming a neo-nazi in their lifetime will see shows like this and become de-radicalized because but but the point is the show doesn't in fact we get threats from neo-nazis and even staunch conservatives are very critical of us it was the the goal of it was to get a viral clip on the internet that didn't it didn't matter what i said to her it didn't it didn't matter if i responded at all all that matters they get a clip of her saying it it spliced together with something else and then make a fake segment for their show because that's what their show is drama grifting garbage and how aggravated you got when she accused you by the way of inspiring a violent terror attack which you should be angry about like well but somebody tries to put that on my point is it didn't matter if i got aggravated or said nothing at all no matter what i did no matter what i did they would take

that clip and then splice it with something else and so we then bring up the point there was there was one guy who was posting stuff who had had watched the majority report uh you mentioned the guy gavin long who said he was inspired by the young turks and then she just means like i don't know i don't know i don't know and she didn't respond to it because the goal, here's my assumption. Sam said, specifically ask this question. It doesn't matter what they say afterwards. We need this clip for our show because it'll trick a bunch of morons into watching. Right.

I don't think he said that specifically. That's what his intent is. So afterwards, when Sean then brings up a legitimate point of how could you say that when you have, say, the Young Turks where you used to work was the actual inspiration for a guy who claimed it was. And she goes, I don't know. I don't know. She didn't respond in any capacity because it wouldn't do anything for their clip. She said the thing.

It's on camera. They can make the clip. Anything after that is pointless. So now it's like she's just literally like, I'm done with the conversation. I came here, I got what I came for. You know? Yeah, okay.

It's grifting garbage. And so I even said that, I was like, this is why people, you know, Sam Seder's blacklisted from a whole bunch of shows. Sam Seder, baby.

I love that guy. He's blacklisted, he knows he is. And I loved that she goes, it's because they're scared of him. It's like, oh, shut up. It's because they loathe him. Destiny did say,

if there was any liberal or anyone on the left he was afraid to debate it would be sam cedar he sam is notoriously he's a brilliant man whether or not you like him personally is almost irrelevant in that in that capacity i think it's just e-drama nonsense and then he makes videos about dave rubin and me and other youtubers because it's just you've got people on youtube and you want to get clicks. So you target the community that they're a part of, which is YouTube. So we're a podcast, we're on all different podcast platforms. She made comments about how they can't get the corporate investors like we do.

And I'm like, what? Like, we don't have any corporate investors. She goes, we can't get sponsors like you do. And I'm like, what? We currently have no sponsors on the podcast. I think we like four like what are you talking about it like it's they're saying things that are plum not true because they're lying to their audience and their audience just believes it it's just it's low tier internet drama garbage i like to extricate that from people's careers and and kind of refine the process to have more elucidated educational

conversation it's going to be rex t-rex pet shop says when emma accused you and asked why nazis watch your show to clarify the context it was a guy who posted four screenshots was it screenshots screenshots from like the youtube app of the same video of the same video and it shows that he wasn't subscribed to the channel and then she said he posted clips from the show i said no he didn't it was screenshots and to be clear so she didn't even know what she was talking about it was actually two because they're like the same time code more or less like a second off so it's like something i do when i'm looking when i see something and i want to respond to it screenshot the app and like you save that time code so you can go back and revisit it what if the nazis could have won world war ii by taking pictures of americans and putting them on

their walls at home oh they they took them they were watching us therefore we must what what does that have anything who cares who's what i'm gonna read this i digress t-rex says when emma accused you and asked why nazis watch your show in the culture war all her future arguments weren't taken seriously in my mind that was the stupidest argument ever her reputation is now ruined support anti-woke pro freedom t-rex pet shop the point is she did not come here to have a real conversation in fact before the show started i said is there a subject you guys would like to start with and she says i'm fine to talk about whatever and then i said i was under the impression that sean and emma you guys want to talk about crime we can talk about uh jordan williams i believe yes and then sean said yes and then emma said yes and then as soon as we

started the show she immediately started talking about sam and music videos and just the personal social compound like i'm in your compound so you have money like she was like i am here in your compound you have money i'm like yeah it's all members like we have we have we got rid of all our sponsors we only had four now we only have on the podcast side of thing like four or five and all of the revenue is basically programmatic, but primarily members. And then she said something about like us having rumble money or something. She's disappointed.

She didn't see the skate. It was like rumble has investors or something like that. Therefore you have rumble investors. Like rumble. This is a fun. It gave me an award for having subscribers. It's like YouTube did. The other funny thing they like to do is they have to they have to claim that tons of

people live here they don't this is an office with a skate park in it and try to make it seem like it's creepy and culty or i guess sam was implying we have children here or something like that in the basement oh my god what uh i don't know exactly what he said are you people are you keeping them comfortable tim saying something like who are these kids he's bringing to come skate how old are they but i don't watch it this is just what i was told and so cedar but they have to do it because the reality of it is we have a building that has one two let's see one two three four, three, four, five floors. So there's a basement and a sub-basement. Sub-basement has a skate park in it.

And then there's three above-ground floors and actually split into two different above-ground sections on 10 acres plus the construction of Freedom of Sand. If you were to go to someone and they say, where do you work? It's like, I work at a recording studio studio it's got a music studio it's got two podcast studios we have rock stars coming and going presidential candidates and there's two skate parks inside people gonna be like that sounds like the best workplace ever yeah there's

a bunch of food there there's there's booze you know within reason people drink when we know when they feel like it you can hang out downstairs and play pool or just go to the skate park skate park outside fresh fruit all over the trees there's a sauna on the premises as well and i and there was a hot tub for a minute that they have to tarnish because it's like oh we can't we can't let people think that something cool is actually possible or happening here so then they try and do things where they say on these shows that like it's a bunch of guys living in a weird house what what a creepy cult it's like that's not these shows that like, it's a bunch of guys living in a weird house. What, what a creepy cult. And it's like, no,

that's not, that's not true. No, it's a company. If there was no company and you were just like, Hey guys, come hang out at my house. Then it would be a weird cult,

but it's like a company where people, except skate, skateboarders literally do that. Famously. I think America had the skate mansion where all their, all their pros and ams lived in one big house in California. Like that's literally what they did. Razors used to have that in skating as well.

It's a good thing that these companies do, but we should definitely read more Superchats. Even if it were true that you had all the people living here, which I've looked around, I didn't find anybody hidden in the basement while you weren't looking, but their content creator houses are so normal in other non-political realms.

They never criticize those as far as I know. Like that's like an actual thing in a business model. But that's, that's the point. Like hype house, they, they, I was like half a tick tocks,

hype houses. So I'll tell you another thing they did. Uh, we were skating at freedom Plaza in DC and they got really, really angry because they couldn't muster up any kind of cultural defense. I said, we're all going to go skate in dc everyone show up and they started issuing threats they started calling companies

threatening them if they dared associate with me in any way it didn't work tons of people showed up but i'm skating in uh uh the freedom plaza and someone goes online on a skate forum a prominent one and says tim pool was there and he couldn't do a pop shove. Pop shove is a very, very basic trick that children do. Why would they lie about that? Because if they went out and said Tim Pool rolled up and did a nollie 540 big spin first try, and he did a switch hard flip late flip, you have no idea what I'm saying, but skateboarders would be like, damn, I didn't know Tim was that good at skateboarding. And then all of a sudden it's like be like, damn, I didn't know Tim was that good at skateboarding. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, we can't let this guy have cultural influence.

So I will shout out the barracks, the most prominent skate brand in the world posted a clip of me doing a one foot nollie 360. So my point is this, they're very, very terrified of our cultural endeavors to the point where they're desperately trying to make it seem bad yes that's why the majority report played our song you know in such a way i'll describe that made it sound really really bad and then said it sounded really bad and then she comes on the show and she's like we don't have the technology to do that i'm like you literally did it you played it through like some speakers so it sounded like garbage and then said the music was garbage and look how bad it sounds to trick your audience is what they do anyway we should reach that we should

read super chats instead of me just uh rampant ranting where where we go um uh-oh i'm gonna have to read a lot more about it david toronto says sean strickland needs to train elon get him on the show by the way the after show would be phenomenal i'm 6 3 33 waist not huge at all and i weigh 200 elon is at least 230 agreed yeah this is 198 on his profile fake 198 yeah 6 2 198 legameth the gayen says that uh i'm going to paraphrase because i i think there's a bit too much invective but i do want to appreciate your super chat and read it he's basically he said seeing emma vigeland uh mouth off at sean about crime was um was sad he said a lot more than that uh he said it was like seeing a disoriented baby first he'll arrogantly charge into the swinging arc club wielded by a burly disgruntled drunken canadian fur trapper who haven't who haven't who hasn't

had the comfort of a woman or a hot meal in a year. Okay, so I read it anyway. Because it was good, but a little too much invective. That's a good one. Write a screenplay. The thing that's really interesting about these conversations with leftists is they never know what my political positions actually are. That's amazing. Right, and so they're like right-wing shows like this. The funny thing was in the beginning she claimed this show had appealed to neo-Nazis, but then later claimed that you were too right-wing shows like this. The funny thing was in the beginning, she claimed this show had appealed to neo-Nazis,

but then later claimed that you were too right-wing for our audience. Your moderate audience. Our moderate audience. And she claimed that the reason I say that we have a moderate audience is to try and trick people. And I'm like, the people who are listening,

who view themselves as moderates are being tricked into thinking everyone else is moderate. What is their argument? I just don't get this. They're so scared they're so scared that we're creating culture because culture is intrinsically edgy artistic something that pushes the limits and they are now the establishment they are the ones shilling for forever war they're the ones shilling for the justice department and the super state and the police

state they are the establishment and we are actually the punk rockers and they can't believe that we're the ones now running rolling stone and like but there's a belief that it's a competition like if timcast wins majority report loses or vice versa but the reality is we lift each other up these conversations emma coming on this show earlier being here we're all gaining from this this is oh yeah this isn't twitch like we're actually not competitors like because we're both on youtube but like twitch you have to stream and all that but but like uh we can grow in our own separate areas and have crossover because you know people can always come back and watch the content all right roma nation says tim and benny you are two you two are the reason why i've started the roma

rise of middle america cast you're an inspiration to truth and look forward to chatting with you too soon right on man appreciate the super chat that's based dude based this is a podcast i will sub roma is it a youtube channel or podcast uh it just says roma cast roma r-o-m-a okay uh let's see jason hutchinson says tim you're explaining the dunning kruger effect yes that's right when people are too stupid to know they're stupid yep that page is romanation by the way romanation romanation yep raymond g salen jr says emma kept trying to do gotcha clips for her show not trying she literally was it doesn't matter if she actually gets us or not or me particularly what matters is they're going to edit that anyway like look we put out a song and you don't have to like it there's a lot of songs that come out all the time

by a lot of people and most people don't like any of those songs. Taylor Swift may be the most popular musician in the world, but out of 7 billion people I'd imagine 95% of people don't like her music. And that's okay. You make things for the people who like the things. So we made a song and then they played it on their show in such a way that it sounded

really awful through some kind of filter and then told their audience, it sounds awful, look how awful it sounds, it sounds like Nickel told their audience it sounds awful look how awful it sounds it sounds like nickelback which it literally does not because and that's a really good example of the culture war too saying that our music sounds like nickelback it's because as i think you were mentioning benny programmable people nickelback is a buzzword for uncool and and you know it's a meme like Like Creed. Yeah, it's like... Both great bands, by the way. You're not allowed to like Nickelback.

That's basically it. If you're on the left, and you like Nickelback, they're going to laugh at you. Which is ridiculous. I think Nickelback had the best cover of Devil Went Down to Georgia ever, though I'm not really a big fan of their music. What's the one to the bottom of every bottle? To the bottom of every bottle! That was a billboard number one for like six weeks. But that was the point. Even though our music

sounds literally awesome. Look at this photograph! Yeah. That's like a meme. That's a billboard number one for like six weeks. But that was the point. Even though our music sounds literally awesome. Look at this photograph. That's like a meme. That's a bank bill. A pre-Federal Reserve bank bill. Look at this bank bill. I'm going to be singing Nickelback tonight. The Federal Reserve sucks. We'll grab a couple more Super Chats here.

Is Nickelback based? I don't know. But man, when you sing How You Remind Me, and you sing it like he's singing it, and you start to feel it, it is based. He might have had an alcohol problem at the time. El Luna says, totally disagrees, Tim. Your goal for Culture War shouldn't be to get

the sound clip of talking about them showing kids graphic images. The win is two hours exposing her total cognitive dissonance. Great job today. I appreciate it. I think Destiny is fantastic. showing kids graphic images the win is two hours exposing her total cognitive dissonance great job today i appreciate it um i think destiny is fantastic uh you guys know destiny yes he he's we've had him on several times we have real conversations we have disagreements on morality political structures but i know that when he comes he'll actually listen to the words coming out of

my mouth and then we'll end up by saying like, that's a good point, but I still disagree. And he'll say, okay, the same is true for conservatives. When I, when I,

like, I think, I think I also watched a clip of destiny just mouthing off at someone. That was the funniest stuff. I think he's great. I disagree with him a lot. I think most people who watch our show might probably disagree with him a lot, but probably actually like him a lot too.

That, that to me is a real conversation. that's the conversation i want to have i would like to have destiny be like here's my position on surrogacy and then sit down with a conservative who opposes it and then we'll actually have a real discussion on the issues we do that all the time with libertarians and conservatives but it's so hard to find liberals yes because they don't actually have positions the krassensteins come on here right they came on once the krassensteins come on here i thought that was great yeah i thought so too they i interact with them a lot on twitter and i think getting getting banned fixed them like it helped them understand i should say i don't want to be i don't i don't saying fixed them is is is is uh

rude i apologize for that i think that they understood finally when they were wrongly banned what was going on and then came out of it like maybe we should have paid attention a little bit because that was an unjust banning. And now I disagree with them a lot of their positions, but it genuinely seems like they'll actually engage with you in an honest way. So I believe that the beginning of everyone's journey to actual real knowledge politically is being able to criticize your own side. That's how you can tell if you are talking with a cult member or somebody who's actually a rational human being who's on their way to namaste, right? If you're able to criticize your own side, you should listen to the Johnson household. Kate and I are doing nothing but talking

S on Republicans. I hate Republicans so much more than Democrats because Republicans, Democrats at least have the goodness and kindness in their hearts to stab me in the face. They tell me exactly where they're going to stab me and how they're going to do it.

Republicans stab me in the back. And so I am so much angrier at Republicans than Democrats on a daily basis. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,

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Time. He's doing a favor for me because I had the show tonight. So he might be staying up a little later than normal. But we'll find out when we go live on Slightly Offensive. Yeah, Elijah Schaefer is a good dude. I talk to him on Twitter quite a lot. Yeah, anyways, good show. Pleasure to see you, Benny. And pleasure to be acquainted with you, I should say, rather.

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