Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #808 Trump Audio Leak HOAX, Trump NOT CHARGED In Iran Docs, Media Lying w/Michael Seifert

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Michael Seifert to discuss the leaked audio tapes of Donald Trump being debunked, a new poll saying 35 percent of democrats think RFK Jr will win 2024, weird mar...ks showing up on Joe Biden's face, & NBC News defending the pride marchers chanting "we're coming for your kids." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So the other day, you know, I said that we could start by talking about this audio leak of Donald Trump that CNN put out. But I said, you know, the rule is you got to wait a couple days before you do, because the context will always change. The narrative was that Donald Trump was caught on tape saying he had these documents and they were classified. Then the leak comes out. Everybody hears it. The view and many others say this is damning evidence. Trump's going to go to jail. This is proof positive. Now we're learning that the whole story was a hoax. Sure, the audio exists. Donald Trump was talking about declassifying
Starting point is 00:00:37 certain stories, but it appears now that Donald Trump wasn't actually holding classified documents in the audio. He was talking about a news report that had come out a few days earlier. And Trump is not being charged in relation to anything having to do with the Iran memo. So the only thing we can surmise, Donald Trump is telling the truth when he says in the recording, when you hear him flipping through papers, he's talking about a New Yorker story and saying he should have declassified the intel behind the story and the media running with the lies so they say the walls are closing in but they're not it's all fake news so we'll talk about that but we've got a whole bunch more news
Starting point is 00:01:14 joe biden's got dementia i guess he's saying that uh putin's losing the war in iraq i guess that makes sense considering he doesn't have any any divisions or battalions in iraq so okay i guess technically that's true. And then you've got Bud Light's, Anheuser-Busch's CEO coming out saying they're actually paying distributors now. They are giving money to them. They're effectively paying people to carry their beer. That's how bad things have gotten because they're being hurt by the boycott. So we'll talk about all those stories.
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Starting point is 00:02:39 We already have the story that we want to talk about. And I don't want to say too much because it's not for the kids, it's not for the families, but it's a very, very humorous story you may have seen on Twitter pertaining to definitions related to women and the woke are getting some flack for how they're describing women once again and it's actually kind of hilarious. So become
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Starting point is 00:03:59 And we'll win that parallel economy. So thanks for hanging out. It's been fun. Yeah, thank you. We've got Hannah Clare hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. How you doing? I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Here with my friend Serge. I should introduce you, I guess, in between. I'm sorry. This is just occurring to me. There's nothing wrong with what you said. Yeah, it was fine. I am Serge.com. I am ready to start when you are, Tim.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Let's jump into this story. We saw this last night. From The View, they say, as a media reporting, lock him up already. The View gets wild as hosts suggest Trump's selling documents predict he gets 10 years in prison. So I want to give you this context first. Here's what they say. I mean, short of this judge fundamentally scrimped the case,
Starting point is 00:04:43 I don't see how he gets less than 5 to 10 years. He's what they say. I mean, short of this judge fundamentally screwing up the case, I don't see how he gets less than five to ten years. He's literally in this. He discusses the contents of classified information with people without security clearances and then acknowledges he can't declassify since he's not president. Heavens! They got him! They got him. I knew
Starting point is 00:04:59 that if we waited a day, the context around the leaked audio would come out and it would debunk the narrative. And lo, it has from CBS News. Iran memo not among the 31 records underlying charges in Trump federal indictment. It would seem that the context around this story is actually relatively clear. Jack Posobiec tweets, DOJ claims Trump is on tape showing classified docs on July 21st. The docs have never been found. But six days before, on July 15th,
Starting point is 00:05:32 the New Yorker had an article where Milley accused Trump of wanting to strike Iran. Is it possible he was just holding the article? Donald Trump had said that he had in his documents newspaper clippings and other things like that. In the audio, I can understand. Even I thought initially it does sound like he's holding these documents. Donald Trump said immediately of that recording, he's like, these are magazine clippings. These are copies of news reports. Now it's all starting to become clear.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Donald Trump did have classified documents to some degree or whatever at Mar-a-Lago. This was in Bedminster. They didn't find the documents. Why would Trump get rid of these, but keep those? It makes no sense unless Trump not being charged with the Iran memo documents, the DOJ not finding Iran memo documents, a story coming out about Milley and Donald Trump saying he was holding the story. Yeah. The most likely outcome is that Trump is sitting with this reporter and he's like, take a look at these papers.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You know, this is what they give me. And he's pointing to a story from the New Yorker and he says, I should have declassified this. I can't now. He wasn't talking about classified documents. He was saying the proof behind the lies, he could have declassified and debunked the story. So it would seem that everything they're saying about locking up Trump, once again, just another, the walls are closing in bombshell report, all lies as predicted.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Didn't, by the way, the view like two days ago in response to Hunter Biden's leaked WhatsApp messages say that the true story of Hunter Biden and his father, Joe Biden's corruption was a story of a father's love for his son and overcoming addiction. So while that's their response to blatant corruption that we're actually seeing in leaked WhatsApp messages where Hunter is literally telling a Chinese official, I'm sitting here with my father, send us the money that gets released. And instead, the view jumps on this story without the facts. It all crumbles, as it always does. And we play the same reel over and over and over again. Let's look.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I want to pull up the document from the Trump indictment. Take a look at this. This is how corrupt the DOJ is. They say that Trump no longer was president, gave an interview at the office of Bedminster, blah, blah, blah. He was recorded with Trump's knowledge and consent. Before the interview, the media published reports at the end of Trump's term, a senior military official purportedly feared that Trump might order attack on country A. Take a look at Trump's quote. We now know senior military official is Milley. We know country A is Iran. Trump said, well, with Milley, let me see that. I'll show you an example. He said that I wanted to attack Iran.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Isn't it amazing? Whoa whoa whoa if donald trump was holding a classified document the document would not read millie accuses trump of wanting to attack iran it would say proposal for attack on iran or donald trump you know it was at least reasons not to yeah yeah it's like it would be a document explaining. Instead, Trump says, I'll show you an example. He said I wanted to attack Iran. And then you have the New Yorker story. Milley says Trump wanted to attack Iran. It is actually kind of clear based on what Trump said. He's talking about a news report. They're just lying about everything. And here we are once again, having to call this out now look i'll say this it's entirely possible i'll always although it's not absolute maybe this goes to court and they're like no actually it really was a document but they have no document they found no document trump says there was no document the story just come on this is insane yeah sometimes you have to take the simplest explanation which is that the left-wing media wants trump to be a terrible person and i think obviously without context you can frame
Starting point is 00:09:06 anything anybody says to give it a negative light but in this case all you needed was very slight information to make it clear what was going on the way i describe it is like imagine there's some kid playing grand theft auto and he's talking about his plans and then you take a quote a recording of a kid playing gta and it will sound like this kid's like going to be a man like a maniac talking about stealing cars and kidnapping people and you're like oh man someone's got to stop this kid and then you go in his room and it's just some some 12 year old kid playing gta this is basically what they do because no one can see what trump is actually doing they twist the context listen to the paperwork trump's saying
Starting point is 00:09:43 he could declassify these papers he was talking about the story behind the story yeah the documents behind the story could have been declassified he can't do it now because he's he's not in office he doesn't have the documents anymore but well i was just gonna say well and the problem even for the left that loves to jump on any stuff like this it's the boy who cried wolf at this point so everybody's assumption anytime anything like this gets, quote unquote, exposed is that it's just another bureaucratic nonsense. The left's coming after Trump and Trump probably didn't actually do anything that was wrong. And this is another one of those examples where it looks potentially bad because they're only revealing part of the story. And so part of the problem is nobody trusts our institutions anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So it's the same thing now we're seeing with actual corruption with the president that's in office. To be fair, can we really call the view our institutions? No, we can't. That's a group of empty headed people. Yes. But it's been around for a long time. A lot of people watch it. I think I'm not totally sure.
Starting point is 00:10:39 There are a lot of wine moms that have nothing to do. And that's where they're getting their information. So now they're hearing that Trump obviously 100% did a terrible thing. And they won't look for the nuance. I think that's the biggest thing. White women must be stopped. We're crazy. What can I say?
Starting point is 00:10:54 Can I play this 20 second clip from Family Guy to help you guys understand the view? This is important context. And I'm providing commentary on this clip. So I want you all to watch this clip. Can we get the audio? Yeah, audio's on the wrong channel. Hey, Stewie, three o'clock. Time for the view.
Starting point is 00:11:13 No, no, no, not again! Let me out of here! I can't watch another second so my favorite part of the gag is when the woman box and then she gets up and there's an egg and the camera zooms in on the egg very very well done joke family guy that's basically what the view is so uh fair point phil we can't call the view one of our institutions but it is sad that all of our actual institutions don't look that different than The View. New York Times is posting pretty much the same content. The DOJ says the same thing The View says
Starting point is 00:11:52 on the same days. It's insane. You're 100% right, and it's something that I've talked about before. It's not just something like The View and The New York Times. It goes to Teen Vogue. So it's like not just about
Starting point is 00:12:05 one narrative coming from one perspective or whatever. Why would Teen Vogue have the same kind of stories that GQ runs? And they really do. They all come from the same perspective. But hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Remember when Teen Vogue ran that like Mark's puff piece? Yeah. Like what's going on at Teen Vogue? Commies everywhere. Teen Vogue ran a what to do to help your friend who just had an abortion and they suggested you get funny movies and pins that support planned parenthood teen vogue is a classic they're really helpful and they're helping
Starting point is 00:12:34 but but they they pass it off as well we are making news palatable to younger readers so we can raise more informed people but we only want them to be informed in our perspective and that's effectively what all these institutions do right they they don't want you to follow no one is going to issue a correction the view is not going to come out and be like turns out there was more context you know we we jump to conclusions they're just going to pretend like they were right all along or like this never happened until they think they have some sort of actual evidence i mean compare this leaked audio to actual whatsapp messages one is clear and one is taken out of context they're propagandists and they're just they're literally
Starting point is 00:13:11 i mean thirsty for for just a drop of of something to some way to cast trump as the bad guy well and they the problem with what that that exact scenario just laid out is that anybody that actually reports the WhatsApp messages with Hunter Biden is now labeled conservative media. Right. So it's like, no, no, no, we're not conservative media. This is just objectively what happened. The vice president's son is literally texting this Chinese official saying, we've got your money if you're. But now, if you report that, you're seen as right wing. So, like, I know people real well in my life that were like eighties blue dog Democrats that were taught to trust our institutions.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You listen to CNN, you watch these shows, you read time magazine, and that's supposed to be the reliable forums. Well, now anytime anybody's reporting the truth, they write it off. Cause it's like,
Starting point is 00:13:58 well, no, that's conservative right wing news. And I don't, you know, I don't want to get involved in the political divide. So they just take whatever the regime is saying. Cause they have these mouthpieces and they never actually get exposed to the truth.
Starting point is 00:14:06 That's why when you tell people like, hey, Biden actually said this, they're like, nah, that wouldn't be real or else I would have known about it. There's a lot of that going on. And it's been going on for a long time. When I think it was 2018 or something like that, and I was talking about Biden had said
Starting point is 00:14:23 that he was going to come after rifles. They were AKs and AR-15s. And friends of mine that are pretty left-leaning were swearing up and down. No, they don't. No, they don't. No, he didn't. And I'm like, I literally had to send them links.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And they were like, they actually had to be like, wow, okay, well, that's a terrible idea for him to say that because he's going to, I'm like, well, yeah, but it's, you don't know even what the people that you ostensibly are going to be voting for are saying. So where do you, you know, how can you consider yourself an informed voter? Did you have a moment where you stopped trusting the media? Like, do you remember? Oh, yeah, but it was a long time ago. What was it?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Tell me. A yellow cake. What was that? Yellow cake, uranium in in iraq that was when i was like okay because initially like when i was young i i kind of thought bill clinton was cool he you know he played sax and smoked pot and i was like you know that was my you know i was a kid and so i thought he was all right and then when when uh when it came out that he had you know lied under oath and stuff and impeachment i figured that he was going to get removed from office because the president's supposed to be held to higher
Starting point is 00:15:26 standards and then when he wasn't i was like oh well then that means that and this is a simple mind to take i understand but i was young that means the democrats are the lying party and the republicans are the party that tells the truth and then we went to you know eight years later we're in iraq and i'm like wait a they both lie, so I can't trust any of them. And the media had sold both of them as acceptable arguments. And I just felt like they're... And unfortunately, the Libertarian Party is the party where the guy takes his pants off on stage and then they start arguing about selling drugs to kids. Or walks around with a boot on his head.
Starting point is 00:16:00 No, that's a Democrat. He probably actually... Is that Berman Supreme? Berman's a Democrat. He hangs out with the Libertarians now. Yeah, but he runs as a democrat oh thank god like you know it's it's not fair to include the satirical candidate into the legitimate libertarian party candidates who actually have taken their clothes off on stage and advocate for selling drugs to kids so but the libertarian party has improved dramatically with the mises caucus so we're big fans of those
Starting point is 00:16:24 guys and they're a much more serious political party now so we'll see how that you know how But the Libertarian Party has improved dramatically with the Mises caucus. So we're big fans of those guys. And they're a much more serious political party now. So we'll see how that, you know, how that plays out. It's going to be interesting. I mean, let's jump to this story first. I was going to pull up a different story, but let's pull this one up. From Rasmussen, 35% of Democrats think RFK Jr. could win. The latest Rasmussen report, national telephone and online survey found 49% of likely-used voters have a favorable impression of RFK Jr., including 14% with a very favorable opinion.
Starting point is 00:16:50 38% view Kennedy unfavorably, including 18%, with a very unfavorable impression, while another 14% are not sure. So this is it. We don't have the rest of the data. That's the general idea right here. RFK Jr.'s polling in the double digits we're seeing something interesting a lot of people have suggested this could be our last election both on the left and the right or maybe maybe 2020 was our last sort of election i guess with ballot harvesting and all the rules being changed and all the and covid lockdown can you really even call it maybe 2016 was the last because whatever's going to coming up in 2024 it'll approximate an election yeah like 2020 did but it's going to be very very weird so there will be something but you're going to have what rfk jr trump like who i mean who are the candidates going to be the fact is the sanders people don't
Starting point is 00:17:41 want to vote trump trump people don't want to vote to sanders they are fighting to an extreme degree you've got the media smearing r. They are fighting to an extreme degree. You've got the media smearing RFK Jr. to an extreme degree, but he's polling in double digits consistently around 20%. It seems like the system's starting to fracture in a bunch of different ways. So it's hard to know exactly who's going to win. But I did see another poll that said Democrats are more likely to vote third party than Republicans, which suggests a Trump victory. Because if RFK Jr. runs as an independent,
Starting point is 00:18:07 not getting the Democratic nomination, or if they put Biden in, then it will split the Democrat vote. Do you think RFK Jr. would run as an independent, or will he pull a Bernie? There's all kinds of reports that he's considering running independent. He hasn't told me personally what he's going to do, but he might as well.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I mean, he has so much momentum. There's no reason. If he has the funding, there's no reason for him not to and do you think the democrats would let him touch the debate stage no you don't think so no of course not i mean look they cut andrew yang's microphone yeah remember that that was hilarious it was absurd well you can't put biden on a debate stage no like there's no way that he would be able i mean already i'm trying to find the numbers right now but uh a significant number of democrats democrats feel biden is too old so yes there's infighting the republicans but the democrats don't want their most likely uh incumbent nominee right now i mean this is not looking good for me and i'm not a political consultant by any means but rfk can
Starting point is 00:19:04 only benefit. Even if he doesn't end up being the Democrat nominee, why not just push forward? So many moderates are looking at him like, hey, this guy's interesting. The same way that there were moderates who didn't think of themselves as any particular party who ended up voting for Trump
Starting point is 00:19:19 because they felt like he represented something, I think RFK in some way could win ground back for the Democrats. Not every single one, but I think like he represented something, I think RFK in some way could win ground back for the Democrats. Not every single one, but I think that he represents something the Democrats haven't had in a long time. There's a lot of boomers, I think, that would appeal to him or that he would appeal to just because of the fact that he's a Kennedy. Adrienne Curry made this great or called him this great thing,
Starting point is 00:19:42 and I picked it up from her that the son of camelot there's a lot of people that are older letter older gen x and and boomers that still hearken back to that you know the camelot era that the way that they looked at at uh the kennedys and and all that stuff and a lot of the stuff that he's saying is the stuff that people that are fairly anti-government get into even he's got a lot of influence even in the libertarian party um which personally i don't understand it so much other than his anti-war and anti like kind of pharmaceutical stance um or at least skepticism but i do think that he would appeal to a significant portion of the older democrats yeah he doesn't have the same progressive
Starting point is 00:20:24 edge in some ways i mean look at what's going on right now he is spending all of his time in new hampshire he's focused there where is biden going to concentrate south carolina the democratic the the d triple c is already saying we want south carolina to primary first and this is really upsetting new hampshire's voters and they are saying you are going to give the states for republicans obviously don't carry a lot of electoral votes on the other hand they are traditionally the first in the nation so kennedy saying i'm going to focus on you guys you are the state that i i will pay attention to shows uh an interest in keeping with some traditions and some balances of power that the biden wing of the democrat party is willing to abandon. What if it is RFK?
Starting point is 00:21:05 I mean, you look, Biden can't campaign. He can't travel around the country. No. I mean, the big news, which we'll get into in a second, is that he's got CPAP marks on his face now. He's 80 years old. The dude is unwell. And we've known he's been, he's got metal plates in his head.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He can't talk straight. He can't travel around this country. RFK Jr. can. And what is he, 69 years old? Yeah. He's also fit. Got that video of him, you know, doing the, he's lifting. Bench press and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Bench press and stuff. Yeah. And he's going to be able to go around and get votes. He's going to be able to build his profile. He does have a difficult time speaking, though, with all due respect. And that matters. But he's still been able to, he's still going to be able to get those ideas across. He's still going to be able to go on podcasts, do town halls.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Biden cannot. How could Gavin Newsom beat someone like RFK Jr.? True. And I think even with, I'm not sure what to call it, maybe a speech impediment, that RFK has, you hear it once, you get used to it. With Biden, he just doesn't have any actual cohesive thoughts. I mean, there is not, it would be terrifying to put him on it yeah he doesn't have a speech impediment the lights are literally out whereas rfk jr is a really smart
Starting point is 00:22:09 guy but do you you know tucker last night came out and basically made the prediction on his twitter show that it's going to be gavin newsom and as a california that scares me uh to death like you you think you think rfk j. could be Gavin? Yes. Really? Absolutely. Do you think the establishment would let that happen? No, no, no. I'm saying if you were to place Gavin, if you put Gavin Newsom on stage
Starting point is 00:22:36 with RFK Jr., RFK Jr. wins, no question. I totally agree with that. Now, whether or not the establishment, the machine, the media would allow something like that to happen is an entirely different question. But I think in terms of, I think Trump would have a hard time debating RFK Jr. RFK Jr. is doing a fantastic job. He's got Trump supporters being like,
Starting point is 00:22:52 we like this guy. And people actually saying Trump RFK Jr. or Trump Kennedy is the ticket. Yeah, which would be legendary. Yeah, I mean, seriously. Massive. I mean, RFK Jr. I would like to see the court.
Starting point is 00:23:04 That'd be great. If Elon's right about it being like the funniest outcome being the most likely then then bring it on then trump kennedy well he he got that twitter spaces where he had uh kelly slater on it tulsi gabbard like all of these people that sort of represent this anti-establishment wing that's not even tied to a political party it's just a cultural sentiment happening so when you have the best surfer in the world that's getting like twitter spaces yeah dude he was on the he was invited to the spaces and so when you have the best surfer in the world like backing a political candidate and then jack dorsey comes out and offers that support too so it's a very interesting coalition he's building and uh it is interesting though you go back to the libertarian
Starting point is 00:23:41 side of him that on issues like pharmaceuticals he is pro 2a at least he says but then he's hyped not always and there are old clips that are coming out now where he's like okay dude but on top of that like he's super big government on issues of environmentalism it's like okay so are you a green new deal president because that's yeah he probably is and there are a lot of people who are probably saying yes i want that there are there are probably a lot of democrats who know that biden can't win and absolutely vote would vote for rfk jr probably older ones the younger ones they just believe whatever they hear in the media it's laughably sad not all of them but a lot of them it is is a kind of weird thing right you you find like older democrats won't believe you when
Starting point is 00:24:20 you tell them what the media says and younger democrats believe whatever the media says because they were raised on tv their parents have been putting them in front of the tv they just trust it it's like having another adult in their lives uh i also think they have made it so distrusting the media is a right-wing thing and so if it's trendy to be left-wing you can't uh well that's what you have to trust it's what you were saying. If Joe Biden hypothetically is in his bathroom and stumbles out of the shower to grab his dog's tail and then breaks his ankle, if you
Starting point is 00:24:52 report that in any way that's negative, they'll call you right wing. That's a thing that happened. Yeah. And by the way, shouldn't everybody be concerned about his age? If he were to run again, he'd be 85 at the end of his next term. Yeah, there's no way he can run.
Starting point is 00:25:06 No. He's going to beat his own record as the nation's oldest president. Yeah, but we've long speculated that they will criminally charge Joe Biden. He will get indicted and he will get arrested, maybe on the documents, maybe on the corruption. And then they'll say, we're not biased. We're going after Trump and Joe Biden. Clearing the way for someone like newsom 538
Starting point is 00:25:25 has them at a 54.8 disapproval rating right now and a 4% approval wow so it's like historically bad it's like i think only only behind carter right i mean it's it's awful and it's been awful all the time and he's not doing anything to make it better i mean right now he's on his tour about broadband internet which is interesting and great but you actually can't have him talk at all because and this feels so disrespectful say but he is ill he is not okay he is not capable of being compelling to an audience even with uh which should be a slam dunk this broadband tour you know he he can't win support because the more he's in public the more people become. I think that part of the reason,
Starting point is 00:26:06 I think, I don't think that that's a compelling issue for the American people. Like, I don't think you really think the broad, especially after COVID, there were so many rural communities that struggled. Well, everyone else is like,
Starting point is 00:26:17 you just do things online and communities like, like I think of West Virginia and all the mountains, like you could not have school online because there is not, there are communities that don't have internet at home. And it took us six months to get internet at both locations. It's insane. And it costs tens of thousands of dollars
Starting point is 00:26:35 to get them to actually trench and then lay the lines down to the note or whatever. It was nuts. I'm not saying it's like the single biggest issue, but I do think it makes a difference, especially if you're a state that wants to develop business. I mean, you might be able to speak to this more, but if you're trying to lure young people in, you're saying, oh, you can work remotely now. Well, then you need guaranteed solid Internet access.
Starting point is 00:26:53 So it's not enough to have affordable housing or people by land. Like if you cannot work from home, then the idea that you would move to a rural state like West Virginia, Maine, Wyoming, to a certain extent. I feel like there are issues that are more motivating, that are more top of mind. I'm not saying it's the only issue. I'm just saying I think it does make a big difference, especially in the post-COVID era. Because I feel like people now are still feeling pressure from inflation. And I do think that one of the things that's most salient, most pressing on people's minds is the stuff with this year's Pride Month.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, in June in particular. Yeah, again, like I said, I was out in California a couple weeks ago talking to my friends that are not super politically active and they are talking about the things that are going on in schools and stuff that's going on at Target. And that's something because it deals with kids and parents are laser focused on the thing that is going to most make them anxious or concerned about their kids.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And I think that that kind of stuff is the stuff that if he were going to be able to produce a compelling message that could help his his numbers i feel like that's where it would be and i don't think that he is in a in a place where or i don't think the democrats at all are in a place where they could actually say look we do condemn these types of things and i think that that's probably one of the reasons why he's got such bad poll numbers i think ladies and gentlemen i think joe biden may be not long for this world and it breaks my heart it breaks my heart um look we know the guy's 80 and these photos have emerged showing strange markings on his face the guy's 80 we know he's got health issues he's already passed the life expectancy for the average us male i think it's like 79 years old.
Starting point is 00:28:45 He's 80 now, I believe, right? So these images pop up showing these marks on his face. And of course everyone is concerned as to what this may be. The media is reporting that he is now using a CPAP machine because he suffers from sleep apnea. I believe
Starting point is 00:29:02 they're lying. I believe what's more likely is that he's an old man. He's probably on oxygen. They're probably supplementing him and they use, they're probably using these bands as a way to obfuscate what's actually going on
Starting point is 00:29:13 with his ailing, with his failing body. They claimed that his, his gaffes, speech impediment. He doesn't have one. He's never, you listen to him talking in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:29:24 He was speaking just fine. Then they say, oh, but when he was younger, he did. And now that he's getting older, it's coming back. No, he's getting older. That's just it. Sure, fine. Call it whatever you want. It's still because of age, right?
Starting point is 00:29:35 The argument they're making is, oh, he's getting older, so now it's coming back. Well, yeah. The point of making a comment about the stutter is because of his age. That's ridiculous. But take a look at this. I mean, he's got these stutter is because of his age that's that's ridiculous but take a look at this i mean he's got these these markings on both sides of his face and you know look how long do those markings stay pressed into his face did he did he wake up literally right before he went out for his flight took off the mask and had the marks on his face the dude is is unwell.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So in speaking about whether or not he can run in 2024, I don't think there's a question. He can't. No, he really can't. Well, and I think your strongest case for the oxygen argument is that it almost looks like any moment he's not in front of people, he has to have something strapped to his face. He's got IV marks on his hands at one point. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And I'll stress this. They mentioned that, let me pull up the caption. His sleep apnea has been public knowledge since 2008. And he wasn't using a CPAP machine? Only now he is? I don't buy it. No, also people who have sleep apnea wear it while they're sleeping, from what I understand. Not while they're just sitting at their desk in their office.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yes. Well, this is a picture from him in the morning about to get on some plane. But the question is, did he just wake up he's wearing a suit how long did it take him to put that suit on and how long would those markings stay on your face i can't i can't imagine they'd stand his face that long his suit actually goes on like the iron man suit just stand him up and the stuff just gets thrown on him no i mean part of what's happening with biden i have always found it annoying that the mainstream media treats it like it's super normal that he spends basically all of his weekends at one of his two private residences uh and that the white house
Starting point is 00:31:17 made this big shot of being like we're so transparent here are the white house visitor logs but we don't know who goes to his house in delaware you can make an argument privacy should he be allowed to whatever but it seemed clear to me and again this is my personal speculation that he is receiving some kind of medical treatment when he goes home to delaware on the weekends because he was always i mean even if he wasn't full-on sick he's always been getting older i mean he was the oldest person elected president and this has only continued to be true as he has aged uh it seems like maybe things are getting worse i it's hard to tell uh but it feels to me like we're getting more and more gaps now we're seeing these markings uh it's only a matter of time and i i mean it's a good bet it's a good bet and for me i kept saying when is he going to announce that he's
Starting point is 00:32:01 running for re-election because his press secretary seemed to be hesitant even when he was saying yes i will run and i think that should tell you that the people around him don't think he should continue forward even if he himself feels like there's no problem and maybe he's not in a position to make that call you know i don't think he is here was the other story from around the same time they say uh president 80 says putin is clearly losing the war in iraq while clutching notes on wagner uprising and yet another blunder yet another blunder and look in this story you can see the marks on his face cheat sheet this dude can't handle it man he never could handle it no and at this point too it, it's really frustrating because I remember when they used to say Trump goes to Mar-a-Lago too much or golfs too much, I should say. And they criticized DeSantis for being on potentially Ozempic and RFK Jr. is on testosterone.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And so all the things that we should all be talking about with Biden, he gets a free pass. He gets a free pass to potentially be using drugs that keep him awake at day. He gets a free pass to not medically disclose to us what he's actually doing that's keeping him alive and somewhat sentient. He doesn't get criticized for going to Delaware every seeming weekend. He vacations more than any president we've had in the last 40 years. And he gets a free pass for all of it. So it's really frustrating because it just feels like we're all ignoring this massive elephant in the room we're not obviously but a lot of the country is and my greatest fear that would cause me to uh really be disappointed in our country in its current state would be that if he actually does run again and were to somehow get re-elected i
Starting point is 00:33:38 think it would be a massive indictment of our country my biggest problem with which are with i i'm in agreement with you but my biggest problem is the fact that the American people, I think, are generally aware of Biden's problems. At least people that that actually are politically aware that pay attention to enough to vote and stuff. And they're they accept the obvious fact that it is not the president that's making the calls. That means it is someone else or it is a group of people. It's probably his advisors that get together and make a decision and tell him, well, Mr. President, we're going to do this because blah, blah, blah. And the fact that the American people are comfortable with that, to me, is a problem.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. We've gotten so comfortable with the bureaucratic state that we just don't even expect the president to lead anymore. One of the biggest problems is that you don't ever have anyone that's accountable when the situation's like this. If there's multiple bureaucrats that are making decisions at the end of the day, really the ones making the decisions, they will never, ever pay for any bad decisions. They will stay in office. A lot of the people that are still in the Biden administration are people that were
Starting point is 00:34:51 in the administration of George Bush when we went into Iraq. A lot of the same players are still in Washington, D.C., in the quote-unquote deep state. So you're not going to get any kind of significant change until you address that problem. Yeah, well, I think it's another sign of that is that there used to be a day in geopolitical environments when like, if you had a president that had a gaffe like this about major geopolitical actors, like the world would stand on notice because oh my gosh, the president of the free world just said something that about another political leader related to war, like everybody used to really pay attention and care. And now it's like even the other foreign of the free world just said something that about another political leader related to war like
Starting point is 00:35:25 everybody used to really pay attention and care and now it's like even the other foreign leaders are like oh it's another tuesday with a gaffe and he could call for war and no one would even really take him seriously we brought this up when he was talking about syria but kept saying libya yeah exactly and he kept saying libya over and over again and the media of course downplayed saying oh it's no big deal it is a big deal if he goes to his generals and says, I want to see some territorial gains in Libya. And they go, you got it. Next thing you know, it's like, why is there no fly zone in Libya? It's like, well, Biden made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So what are the generals supposed to do? Defy his orders? This is the conundrum. Yes, we know he's not well in the mind. And he said the wrong word. I think the average person can assume he did not mean Libya. What if he did?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Are the generals going to be like, sir, are you sure? And they say, yeah, of course, come on, man. I'm talking about it. Okay. Or do they just say, no, he's incapacitated so we're going to defy his orders and ignore him. The way that goes back to your point is like,
Starting point is 00:36:21 I don't even know who's in charge of the generals at this point. Yeah. How do they make decisions? You really think they ask him for military strategy? Who knows? Like, no way. The way that goes back to your point is like, I don't even know who's in charge of the generals at this point. Yeah. How do they make decisions? You really think they ask him for military strategy? Who knows? Like, no way.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I think it was Andy Card, I think, is his chief of staff or something like that. I'm not sure the chief of staff, but it may be just a name that I'm remembering. But I'm sure that it's not Joe Biden. Yeah. It's a council or I'm not one of the guys that thinks that, you know, Barack Obama's running stuff from behind the scenes. There are people that make those kind of remarks. I don't think that's the situation. I think it's just people that are high up in the in the administration that are the
Starting point is 00:36:54 bureaucratic. You know, I think it's Joe Biden and I think Afghanistan is proof. You think it's him? You think he's making look at Afghanistan. Any sane person who sat down. You could take your average, middle-aged, overweight American dad, sit him down in the Situation Room and say, here's Afghanistan. We want to get out. And that person would do a better job.
Starting point is 00:37:19 That's true. That's a good point. So I wonder if, like, abandoning Bagram Air Force Base, not notifying the Afghan Afghan security forces, everything they did, every error. It was insane how bad it was. It was pure chaos. So it could be that there is no leadership at all. So people were doing random things. But considering the U.S. abandoned that we the U.S. abandoned the Bagram Air Force Base.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I kind of feel like that was a leadership call from someone who is not right in the U.S. abandoned, that we, the U.S., abandoned the Bagram Air Force Base, I kind of feel like that was a leadership call from someone who is not right in the head, Joe Biden. We got to get our troops out of there, man. You know, not September. Get it out of there. Like, okay, well, where should we draw? Get them out of the air. Just get them out.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Get them out of the Air Force Base. Get them out. But he wanted to withdraw them by the anniversary of September 11, right? He made it in an emotional place instead of following a tactical argument. I would be shocked if he was that hands-on with how the withdrawal was done. How do you explain it? I don't have a better explanation, but I would be very surprised if President Joe Biden was that hands-on about how to carry out the withdrawal. Because I, too, agree that it was ridiculous to have the combat troops come out before the civilians.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Absolutely. And abandoning the Air Force Base. Yes. And leaving all of our gear. Where you could get them out. Why am I out of the air force base i am as flabbergasted as you guys are that that was the actual process that went that actually happened i just would be really surprised if joe biden was was you know that granular about about commanding but that's
Starting point is 00:38:56 the point he wasn't he's like hey we're going to get our troops out of there and it's like well look mr president we've got an air force base we can't just get them out of the air force base then are you sure? Yeah. Like, oh, whatever you say, sir. And I always wonder if the generals that receive those orders are also as incompetent or nefarious. Oh, come on. Like Millie.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Exactly. That's where it's like, I don't I wonder if it's literally just a comedy of errors across the entire leadership of the U.S. government. Our intelligence sucks. If you were naive enough to believe that Afghani officials and forces there could hold that region and then it fell in no matter of days like how do you get things that wrong across an entire organization as large and profound as the u.s military it's a comedy of errors and i always struggle with how much do you attribute to malicious intent versus incompetence that is always a tough thing for me
Starting point is 00:39:45 but sometimes it's both yeah i think in this case it was and i think in most things happening in our government right now there's a small faction of people that are genuinely evil and then the rest of the the people in the nut house are just pure incompetence at the highest degree it's the p buddha judge that have no ability or uh resume to lead. Mayor of a nothing town in Indiana, don't get me wrong, South Bend's fine, but like, what? Do you even have public transportation? And you're leading this.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Like, our whole government in the bureaucratic state at this point is this massive hodgepodge collaboration between malicious intent, evil actors, and incompetence at the highest level. And ultimately, I think that's why, like like anybody that's even remotely normal and is able to present any sort of sense of leadership is rising to the top of the cultural conversation. Let's let's jump to the cultural conversation.
Starting point is 00:40:35 We got the story from CBS News. Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says financial assistance is being sent to wholesalers, beer distributors impacted by boycott backlash. Let me provide an alternate context for what this information is. First, we'll take the neutral approach. The Anheuser CEO states that they are giving money to people who carry their beer. Let me make it a little bit more hyperbolic for you. The boycott was so effective that Bud Light now has to pay people to carry its beer. Because let's ask this question.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Why would Anheuser-Busch send financial assistance to wholesalers and distributors? These distributors could simply just, I don't know, carry different beers, like shift their business, reduce their workforce, say we're going to get off Bud Light. No. This is Eneser Bush saying, we're going to pay you to keep operating at this level because we're going to try and pull out of this one. Otherwise, the wholesalers say, see you later. The boycott has gotten so bad that they are now paying people to carry their beer.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Good job. It's incredible to watch, actually. On our app app the day after bud light that ad campaign was released with dylan mulvaney we saw an 800 increase in searches for beer on the platform because people are tired of it they're actually looking for other options now modello is the top beer above above bud light and it was funny because some of the media tried to paint it as like well that's because people are done with domestic beer that's why that's why bud lights tanked and it's like dude all these other domestic beers have actually risen in value this
Starting point is 00:42:08 exactly and so uh you know what's interesting in all this is that we don't think much about how the actions of that man and uh the ceo of anheuser-busch if you can't see the screen um and his cronies and the ad campaign agency out of san franc, how much that actually negatively impacted the people caught in the crossfire of all of this, which is the distributors, the middlemen, the salespeople. They absolutely got screwed because you cannot sell this beer anymore. Have you ever seen The Dark Knight?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Oh, yeah. Good movie. You guys have seen that one, right? Absolutely. I love the fan theory that the Joker's actually the good guy. And the reason is, by the end of the movie, he's gotten rid of a dangerous vigilante, Batman. Batman retires. He's gotten rid of the mob and all the criminals. What the Joker did throughout that movie
Starting point is 00:42:53 destroyed the organized crime in the city and destroyed the vigilante fighting it. It's crazy. And then in the next movie, it's like he's been retired for a couple decades. I bring this up because what if this Anheuser-Busch CEO is actually just that? He looks like the bad guy, but deep down he was sitting at his office and he was looking at all the ESG and woke stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And he's like, the only way this changes is if someone pushes it over the top. And then a single tear rolls down his cheek and he's like, I will do the right thing. And then he gets on his phone and he's like, Dylan Mulvaney. And he's like, we've got a job to do. Because in this interview, apparently the Anheuser-Busch CEO has not ruled out hiring Dylan Mulvaney in the future. Yeah, it's absurd.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And has doubled down on pride. And has said they will continue and they have always been big supporters of this stuff. When your customers tell you, we won't buy customers tell you we won't buy your stock we won't buy your beer and we will advocate for everyone not to buy your beer to the point where you have to pay wholesalers and distributors money to keep up keep up their operations you'd think at that point you'd be like we're gonna listen to our customers and get away from this stuff we're sorry he won't do it no what we're kind of through the guilt card he's like i'm really sad because it really impacts the employees who've been working. They have pride in this, you know, 165-year-old company that's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like, he is trying to say people boycotting this beer are the ones hurting these people who work in their, you know, breweries or whatever. And it's like, you made this call. You're not taking any personal responsibility. In fact, you seem to be willing to risk their jobs again it's crazy well yeah his doubling down is a controlled demolition like if he actually feels bad for his employees he has single-handedly caused that problem by the way like i run a company you run a company if something bad happens in the company it ultimately at the end of the day is is your fault because we take responsibility for the company
Starting point is 00:44:43 because the buck stops with us this has has been the exact opposite. Blaming your consumers for pain that's been put on your employees rather than taking responsibility is like the most low life thing that I've ever seen a company executive do. The target CEO is doing the same thing right now. And now for you to paper over it with this house of cards sham organization you've created by having to literally do a rebate program and pay people to buy the beer, just propping up the house of cards further. I have never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Plus, to your theory, he was former CIA, and they specialize in regime change. No way! So if he is trying to topple the woke regime, maybe that is his ultimate goal, because it, across the board, has decimated these woke companies. $50 billion of market cap dropped just between Anheuser-Busch, Disney and Target alone in the past two months.
Starting point is 00:45:32 So I have never seen a more suicidal campaign from a company than doubling down on. What about Public Square? What are you guys seeing? The opposite? Yeah, that $50 dollars has to go somewhere like that's the interesting thing is that these boycotts are only effective if you can ultimately shift your lifestyle spending away to something else which is why we exist so we created the app so that if you're tired of bud light if you're tired of target you can actually go to something else so that's why when bud light toppled uh we actually 27 billion dollars of market cap dropped we saw an 800 increase
Starting point is 00:46:03 in beer when target came out and did what they did, we released a Target shopping guide that actually drove our app to top five apps in the entire app store for a week across all genres. So anytime one of these cultural mediums for commerce decides to be insane, we're trying to be there to clean up the mess and provide an alternative so that you can actually shift your spending away. And what's happened is we've had some people that said, I said that I was not going to go to Target for June, but I just couldn't imagine getting Target away from my life in its entirety. And now they're saying, I'm actually finding my toilet paper, paper towels, household cleaning products on Public Square. I don't even need to do this anymore. And we have people asking us, can you
Starting point is 00:46:40 open retail stores? Can we have this literally be a replacement from Target? So that's where we're going. But I think the success of public square is a sign of two things. One is that the boycotts are working and that people are tired of woke capital. That's number one. Number two is that people are actually hopeful enough to go the extra mile to do something different. Because the worst indictment of our country and the economic state currently would be that if people either just kept shopping at these companies, even though they hated them, and these companies obviously hate us in return, or the other thing, which is that these people basically, you know, boycott for a week and then lay off because we don't have any other options. Neither of those things are happening. People are actually shifting their spending away, and this is actually working, which is pretty incredible to watch. I think Bud Light, this is why I made the joke about this guy being the secret hero. Because what Bud Light did was shattered the dam. The cracks were forming and then the CEO of Bud Light just took a sledgehammer to that thing and the floodgates have erupted.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And what happens is, for the longest time, regular people are scared. If they speak out, they will get canceled. They live in fear of this, especially younger people. Then people notice that Bud Light is tanking, and they think to themselves, whoa, if I say something that's actually popular, now people aren't scared anymore. Now they feel good. Now it feels good to go shop somewhere else. Now you post a video about how you're not going to Target, and you get a million views yep so there's even opportunists here we're going to jump on
Starting point is 00:48:09 board this is where i think the tide shifts because the the wokeness is falling into it's falling into the lame cultural space where it is it is it is becoming negative it's not it's not interesting and you know it interesting. And what is kind of interesting is if you look at punk rock stuff, these guys were dressing in very, very weird ways that were supposed to be shocking to the average person. You had, I think it was, correct me if I'm wrong, Sid Vicious wore the swastika.
Starting point is 00:48:37 The idea was to offend people, to be like, I'm not a part of your thing. Then all of a sudden, punk became cool and it became mainstream and it became mainstream. And it became multi-billion dollars. How things kind of go. Underground has totally disappeared.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like the actual underground has completely and totally disappeared in the world of the internet. Because part of the underground used to be you had to physically go to places to find this music. You had to go to certain record stores. You had to go to certain places to buy certain magazines. You had to go to shows that were at certain locations. It wasn't presented to you and it wasn't given to you. So you had to put effort into it to work for it. Yeah. Then those underground things became popular.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And so here's what I think. For a period, you get this rebellious anti-woke subculture pushing back on the corporations, on Disney, on Bud Light. Bud Light, the number one brand. Like all trends in counterculture, they start to become more and more dominant. Because people who are passionate about these things, believe in them, don't give them up. And the average person just doesn't care. So what happens now bud light went from number one to number two modello is now number one and to be honest
Starting point is 00:49:52 bud light was always kind of number one haha it's very funny i'm very funny and uh and now it's just crap it always was but uh this shows that regular people are this counterculture is now becoming more and more dominant and moving into the mainstream space. My prediction is in a few years, we win. I don't know what that means politically. Well, I think,
Starting point is 00:50:15 well, obviously, I think on the political ramifications, like if you want to know how decisions are made in society, look at where the money goes. And so if you can shift the profit structures of society back toward the values
Starting point is 00:50:23 of everyday actual normal people, I think we win even politically. But people ask me often, like, do you think Bud Light can redeem themselves at this point? And I think the clear answer is no, because they've become the butt of a cultural joke. Like I saw somebody tweet recently and it went super viral. The biggest insult of 2023 is you look like someone who would drink Bud Light at Target. And I'm like, you're now screwed. You see all these funny videos going around of people buying a Bud Light and it totally alters their personality. It's like, you can't come back from that. And I think that what's really
Starting point is 00:50:55 exciting about that is people are waking up to have a general sort of... We talked about this earlier. There's an anti-establishment sense in society at the moment that I really embrace. I think it's wonderful. That should also carry into small businesses. So instead of going to Bud Light, why don't you go to a local brewer that's making awesome local craft beer that a lot of this is actually super affordable. They don't hate you. They're not going to lecture you about gender. And it is that simple.
Starting point is 00:51:18 If you can do that for all these different industries, like on Publixware, 90% of our businesses are small businesses. And it's great because those are the ones that are not going to lecture you about stuff. They're not bought into an ESG agenda or DEI agenda. And they're actually shifting society back to like normal people's values. People all the time ask, like, are you political? And I'm not political.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I'm like a normal person from 2006. And it's just the country left us. Somehow you've ended up here. Exactly. And so when commerce has become so politicized and we're just trying to offer this solution that is not going to tell you about gender while you're trying to buy pants for your kids, like it's kind of a refreshing thing for people. So you're seeing normal people wake up.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And you talked earlier about how like the social issues of gender are becoming such a hot button political topic for the mama bears. 70% of American consumers are moms. So if you get that audience pissed at your brand and ready for an alternative like that's our number one demographic on the app it's 70 percent moms because if you have the mama bears mobilized to a product they believe in they're going to tell other friends they're the best evangelists for things and alternative is true if they hate your brand if you become the target in their eyes they're going to tank you well that's why influencer marketing initially started with like mommy bloggers right who were on the internet and being like here's my life and people were like what products do you use tell me everything you
Starting point is 00:52:27 do because i am looking for your recommendation i think that is an army that uh bud light did not think maybe they should have courted the moms instead of donald mulvaney they should have been like well they were trying they did that commercial with uh that actor and his wife and it's like the woman is sitting on the couch and she's on hold and then that miles what's his face the actor grabs two beers and cracks them open and dances over that was like couples they didn't like chase the moms they weren't like that that was specifically targeting women that was like report covered in like the ad marketing news as this is how they'll get women because typically bud light was like it wasn't effective what i'm saying is they should have gone harder
Starting point is 00:53:03 in the we're chasing mops like they should have been replacing all of the stereotypes of like a wine mom they should have been like you're a Bud Light mom my point is
Starting point is 00:53:11 they tried that ad it probably didn't work so they went Dylan Mulvaney yeah market to kids I guess Bud Light
Starting point is 00:53:20 that certainly didn't work that's always a good conclusion to market beer to children Bud Light wasn't exactly or isn't exactly a great tasting thing. No, it's number one. I don't think they really could have won moms. I think that's a fallacy.
Starting point is 00:53:32 But I think it's important to note that women control spending in most households. Yeah, that shouldn't be a surprise to people. I mean, that's been the standard for as long as I can remember. When I was a kid, I heard stories that women can do most of the, you know, do most of the grocery shopping and purchasing for the household because they run the household. They also typically control
Starting point is 00:53:50 most of the philanthropic giving too. So any charities decided by women. So this is this strange paradox where women are constantly being told, you know, men are oppressing you, but really they have all this power. They control basically American spending and they don't acknowledge it's been alive for a long long long they don't
Starting point is 00:54:08 acknowledge it and that's that's what bothers because it's not convenient true i mean like if you're in a position where like you know everyone's telling you that you're oppressed and you're you're you're the the second class gender and yet you're still bossing your husband around are you going to make a whole lot of noise about, no, we don't need extra benefits from the government and blah, blah, blah. No, you're going to just shut your mouth and you're going to go ahead and say it's fine.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I was going to jump to another story if you wanted to wrap it up. Oh, I was going to say, Ali Wong has this bit where she says, feminist ruins everything by saying, we can do anything. It's like, stop talking. Don't tell them.
Starting point is 00:54:45 We got to jump to this story. This is from last night. Post Millennial says, NBC News defends We're Coming for Your Children chant at NYC Drag March, arguing it's been used for years at Pride events. But it's more than that. They tweeted,
Starting point is 00:55:01 The Coming for Your Children chant has been used for years at Pride events, according to longtime march attendees and gay rights activists who said it's one of the many provocative expressions used to regain control of slurs against lgbtq people shoes here's here's the funny thing the new nbc news article says in the 21 second clip circulated by a right-wing web streamer channel. Is that you? That's us, by the way. Oh, hey. That's Tim Guest News.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Former voice member. NewsGuard certified, by the way. It says, dozens of people in the streets can be heard chanting, we're here, we're queer, we're not going shopping. But one voice that is louder than the crowd, it's not clear whose, or whether the speaker was a member of the LGBTQ community, is heard saying at least twice, we're here, we're coming for your children. First of all, in the video, you can hear they're all chanting it.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Multiple people. And you can see their mouths. You can see multiple people saying this thing. Now, here's my point. Also notice they didn't add the clip. They did. They're linking it, but they didn't embed it in this article. My point is this.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Why are they simultaneously arguing? It's a totally normal chant they always have done and also nobody did it it's some it's one weird person we don't know who that person is which is it pick one now here's where here's here's the good part shoe on head tracked down one of the sources pointing out that nbc news said a leaderless group of activists with the radical fairies a loose-knit lgbt and the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, a charity and protest group, have helped organize the march in more recent years, according to Huffington Post. There are no sponsorships by companies at the drag march. To just clarify, NBC News is reporting, a leaderless group of activists with the Radical Fairies helped organize this march where they chanted, we're coming for your children.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Okay. Thank you, Shoe we're coming for your children. Okay. Thank you, Shoe on Head, for this one. Henry, Harry, Hay, Hay Jr.
Starting point is 00:56:51 was an American gay rights activist, Nambla activist, communist, labor advocate, co-founder of the Mattachine Society, as well as the radical fairies. So it was an outright
Starting point is 00:57:04 Nambla activist. What is that, North American Man-Boy Love Association? That is the North American Man-Boy Love Association. So it was a communist pedophile who founded this organization that now goes on to help organize a march in which they're chanting, we're coming for your children. And NBC News says,
Starting point is 00:57:21 nothing to see here, folks. Shout out, by the way, to Elad Eliyahu, reporting for TimCast News on the ground, who caught this video. And I want to stress this. When Elad tweeted this video out, we didn't think that much of it. We're just like, here they go again, chanting this thing. These crazy people. And then it went crazy viral, and it's gone this far. But shout out to Shoe and Head for pulling this information up.
Starting point is 00:57:42 This is why you should follow at TimCastNews on Twitter because you'd see a lot of stuff first. Let's go. Which, by the way, the headline's so interesting. It's not that big of a deal because we've been doing it for years. Does that make it better? That doesn't make it better.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That makes it worse. That thing you're scared about? We've been doing it for longer than you realize. They've been writing books about it since, I mean, Eros and Civilization by Herbert Marquis came out in like the 60s or something like that. longer than you realize they've been writing books about it since the i mean eros and civilization by herbert marcus came out in like the 60s or something like that these are these arguments
Starting point is 00:58:09 for intergenerational relationships have been made by queer theorists for the better part of 50 years this is a this is a normal leftist perspective if you're a leftist like philosophers like scholar or whatever that is normal to hear people will are going to feel more comfortable as lgbt issues become more topical people in academia are going to feel more comfortable making the argument that there is no such thing as innocence. That there is no reason to prevent children from seeing sexual activity, being sexually active themselves. These are not arguments that I'm making. These are arguments that are made by people like Michel Foucault, Herbert Mark Hughes, and people that are cutting edge in the field of queer theory. And communists. They're all Marxist. They're all leftist.
Starting point is 00:59:09 They're all communists. But when they organize an event, we should think nothing of it. It's fine. Don't question this. I think different things than what you're saying. But that's why this article is so weird. Tim is totally right. They're saying, we do this this article is so weird they're they're tim is
Starting point is 00:59:25 totally right they're they're saying we do this all the time and also it's not a big deal there's nothing and also that person's not a part of our group and we don't even believe it's real this is not a bad thing this is right now this is a resource if you look on twitter the uh actual tweet that nbc made had a has a community notes thing on it and stuff. So that is a good thing. And it should be used by everybody that wants to fight the left and the, the literal attack on children, because what we're talking about is their admission that they want to target children. The specific reason is because they want to interrupt the way that adults raise their children because grown-ups raise children that are well-adjusted and happy are not revolutionary they don't end up in queer
Starting point is 01:00:12 lifestyles generally they they just don't end up in in you know doing a lot of drugs and out on the street and the left wants people in those conditions because unhappy people are revolutionaries. Happy, satisfied people are not revolutionaries. And the left is full of actual communist revolutionaries. So your kids are their target. And that is not an exaggeration. They want to raise your kids to be revolutionaries. They want to raise your kids to hate revolutionaries. They want to raise your kids to hate you.
Starting point is 01:00:46 That is a true statement. Sorry. Don't let your kids be on TikTok. No, for real. Like Vivek Ramaswamy right now saying kids under 16 should not be allowed on any of these social apps. Like, I think it's one of the best political positions I've heard in a long time. Because if you I'm fully convinced if kids did not have tiktok at 14 and did not i don't know what you're allowed to say on youtube but corn they didn't have corn or they didn't uh watch
Starting point is 01:01:12 tiktok like i'm convinced the trans thing wouldn't even exist it's this weird fetish culture paired with these tiktok algorithms that are just prolonging it and that is why we have well you you have you have children i want people who have kids to imagine this right i just i mean i shouldn't even say that anybody just imagine this you have a 12 year old they go outside and they're uh walking around by themselves and let's say they're riding their bike they ride their bike a few miles and they come across an old warehouse to sex club. They go inside by themselves. And there's a bunch of people engaged in lewd and lascivious behaviors.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And they all start talking to the kid and inviting the kid over to partake. That's the internet. The internet with your kids on the internet is you being like, have fun, good luck. And your kids could stumble across these sex clubs. And they're going to see these things and watch it and have groomers groom them. And we've heard this from many individuals. In fact, what you're referring to, we actually had a couple of detransitioners explain to us that they're going on places like Tumblr. And they'll get people saying like, hey, why don't you try wearing some boys clothes and see how you feel?
Starting point is 01:02:26 Post some pictures. They do. What happens next? They get bombarded by likes and comments about how cool they are. They feel good. Then they say, did you feel good when you did? Like, yeah, it felt really good.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And they're like, do more. What actually feels good is the social acceptance. Yeah. Belonging. Belonging. Yeah. And then they keep telling these kids to do more and more and more and more.
Starting point is 01:02:46 And that was the story we heard explicitly from one detransitioned individual. So, all that really matters, don't let your kids go to adult events. Don't let your kids be exposed to this stuff. But I agree with you, Vivek's position on this stuff, we were talking about this last night.
Starting point is 01:03:01 If you go out in public and you hold up a big sign, a big picture of porn you're going to get arrested or at the very least the cops are going to take it from you they're going to cite you or arrest you or it's like obscenity laws if you speak your political mind you're fine if you go online and speak your political mind you will be destroyed but of course porn is everywhere and totally acceptable on the internet so it's backwards the internet is is is a is a lawless wild west place and a lot of people are saying it's losing its wild west edge and there were good things about it when it was the wild west in fact in the in that you could have a decentralized network of your friends actually doing productive
Starting point is 01:03:37 things but what happened was the internet started with a bunch of tech nerds. And that's why you end up with, in the early days, cool things happening online, cool stories. Then people who want to hide from the mainstream start using it and you get weirdos using the internet and weird things on the internet. Now you have the mainstreaming
Starting point is 01:03:57 and the centralization of the internet where everything's becoming more like apps. It's less free flowing, less about the domain and more about the app you're using. But still, we've not codified anything to say keep kids out of these adult facilities on the internet.
Starting point is 01:04:14 That needs to happen. Yeah, I don't think there's a benefit to it. I was thinking about recently, I wrote this story about how middle school test scores are sort of tanking. And we saw a huge drop in the national report card in 2012 and for me it's impossible i know i can't prove correlation
Starting point is 01:04:30 or causation but uh snapchat got released in july 2011 and instagram got released in october of 2010 and i think it's interesting because a specific study talked about how fewer kids choose to read for fun on their own. And that's true of all performance levels. And now you wonder, what are they doing? Are they outside running around more? Are they what? No, they're all on TikTok. They're on Instagram. They're on Snapchat. They're completely devoted to the screen. And it's they're suffering because of it. Again, there are probably lots of things that factor into this. But I don't think we can deny that social media has changed childhood or at least preteenhood forever. And I don't know that it's beneficial. People who say, oh, you have to connect with people and find your community. Like, shouldn't we be encouraging kids to do this in person, to have in-person conversations and to
Starting point is 01:05:19 find communities that they see face to face that we know are not someone else there was a reason that show catfish got so popular right because it reminds you constantly that you don't know exactly who you're talking to the on the internet unless you have actually met them and if it can happen to you when you're you know 21 and talking to someone online think of what can happen to basically an even more gullible child who gets online at 12. Yeah. Well, and it's so widespread. And sadly, like most of society does not live on Twitter and see these videos go viral. We have 340 million people in our country. The vast majority of them will never see that video of that chant.
Starting point is 01:05:55 So what's concerning is you'll tell them they're trying to groom your kids. Look, they're admitting it, but they don't see that. Like most average moms and dads still believe that the public schools are wonderful our teachers would never groom the kids they're not actually they just want equality like there are again a lot of people stuck in this they don't realize it's changing i hope so but but bud light proves it that's that's my point prove it that's true once it becomes that mainstream my problem is is that there's still too much of a denial that our country has related to things like this do you remember two years ago when the san francisco gay choir during zoom came out and
Starting point is 01:06:29 literally saying we're coming for your children it's like they've been telling us for years what they're trying to do why are we just now waking up to it i think part of the reason why why we're just now waking up to it is is because people have not had a lot there's not been a lot of voices articulating what the actual intent is like the fact that the that there is a an effort made by people on the left to interrupt the raising of children so that way they can change their opinions to be a socialist opinion. That's looked at as a conspiracy theory, right? I think that's only one small element of it. I think the bigger picture is just that Occam's razor suggests there are people who want to abuse kids.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Well, no, there are. What I'm saying is I'm saying that the the the fact that the that people can articulate that that there is a process that happens like when you raise your kids you create more liberals essentially it's what happens in america liberals have liberal values raise your kids to be liberal what the what a socialist wants to do is interrupt that raising that instillate instilling kids with liberal values they want to stop that prevent parents from instilling liberal values in their children like classical liberal yeah well you know things like freedom
Starting point is 01:07:54 of speech yeah the idea that of freedom of speech is no longer something that gen gen z looks as really really valuable and there are people that make the argument that the freedom of speech might not be a good thing. And the reason that they make that argument is because there are people that are teaching them. Well, instead of saying, look, it's super important because if you don't have free speech, X, Y, and Z happen. Well, you have people that come in and say, well, you know, X, Y, and Z might happen,
Starting point is 01:08:19 but you also need to be worried about A, B, and C because if you say bad things it'll hurt people etc and and the the importance of liberal values is not being instilled in in the younger generation and without the younger generation being instilled with liberal values they're not going to be they're not going to look at at our society as as this know, the same way that their parents did. And so the left is looking to interrupt that, that creation or recreation of society. And they're looking to, to interject their own values into more kids.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And I think that that are the fact that parents have heard that somewhat and may have been aware of it. You see that when, when there are people saying we're coming for your children that is a tangible reality that you can associate with a story that you told them right i'm i'm telling you look the left is coming for your kids and they're like can this is why and they want to teach your kids and parents be like that guy's crazy whatever they could blow it off you show them that and they're like whoa do you think we should change how we phrase it then like instead
Starting point is 01:09:25 of being like the left's coming for your kids should we say like hey you have to be careful about the content that your children are consuming i think people get turned off by politics and so they start saying like oh you're just being too political but if you were to say hey i don't think you want your kid exposed to sexual material you probably shouldn't take them to this event or you should be wary about this thing it becomes more palatable well that's why Vivek's trying to make it policy is because most people don't respond to the hyper social
Starting point is 01:09:51 like culture war language they'd respond more to like here are the dangers of social media and the government's role is to protect you from danger that's the way he's trying to frame it I think social media is for at least for me personally I think the effect that the the government's involvement in social media should be very delicate i'm not super i'm very against the government you know censoring or whatever i
Starting point is 01:10:15 do think that the government should be extremely aware of what curriculum is being taught to children and that's not just something that, that is in public schools either, because there are companies that are private companies that produce the curriculum that gets put in schools. And if those companies are producing corrupted materials, they're producing books that have these, these ideologies written into them, things that are influenced by people like people like Palo Freire and stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:43 If that's the curriculum being sold to private schools as well as public schools going to private schools is no longer a good enough thing because they're still being taught the same curriculum so it has to be you have to make sure that the ideology that is the ideology is not injected into the curriculum and that takes parents being aware of what the ideology is they have to be able to identify gender issues and it's not it's not a small in any way it's not a small ask like this is a big long-term project that people need to undertake if they're going to save the united States from a legitimate cultural revolution. But don't you, because I agree on a lot of that, the social media part I have a tough
Starting point is 01:11:30 time with because like Twitter says that 13 and up is allowed to use it and Twitter also has pornography. And you've been on Twitter before where people replied to popular posts with like sexually explicit content that kids are now able to see, 14 year olds. It should be illegal. It should be illegal. Absolutely. You either up the age or you make porn on Twitter illegal. with like sexually explicit content that kids are then now able to see 14 year olds like illegal it should be illegal absolutely you either up the age or you make porn on twitter illegal i i i think that you should probably do both but um back to an earlier point you made do you think though that parents reverting to liberal values will help things because isn't liberalism essentially live
Starting point is 01:12:03 and let live it's that this is the way they choose to live and you got to respect everybody chooses to live because i actually see it a little different i think that the only people that have been right consistently for the past 10 years were the religious conservatives that were like it's a slippery slope it's a slippery slope they're coming for your kids and they were laughed off as uh fundamentalists that were too prissy and sort of Bible thumpers, when in reality, they were right. Like, my grandma, who warned us all that this is a slippery slope, and if you let them get away with the stuff,
Starting point is 01:12:33 they're going to teach your kids and adopt your kids. Like, that wasn't seen as a liberal value. I don't see it as a slippery slope. I see it as, hey, here's the thing that we now think is acceptable, and here's the thing we see as unacceptable. So you just see the Overton window shifting. Well, I mean, I don't care if
Starting point is 01:12:52 some dude and a woman go into the privacy of their own home and swing around on ceiling fans and do backflips on weird bondage frames. I care when they film it and then start showing little kids. It's not a slippery slope.
Starting point is 01:13:08 These people have always existed and have always tried to do these things. The slippery slope, if there is one, is the internet and it's not that we say allowed gay marriage. But don't you think
Starting point is 01:13:16 culture has become more accepting of more radical and extreme things? It's the internet. If the idea was live and let live means whatever you do
Starting point is 01:13:24 in the privacy of your own home, that do in the privacy of your own home, that works in the privacy of your own home. The problem now is some person will post obscene images on the internet and expose kids to it. And we don't do anything about that. That should be illegal. It's kind of crazy to me that we are in a day and age. Come on. Anybody knows if you go to a playground and you post obscene material you're going to get arrested but if you go to pride they don't care there's a there's a clear double standard on the internet i have questions this is what i proposed to youtube there is a there's a video out of santa i think it was a um west hollywood where two men are on a truck performing a foreplay sex act on each other in public in front of everybody.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Children were present. So I said, OK, YouTube, let's see how you tolerate this. Will YouTube allow this video? I need to check to see if it was demonetized, but it wasn't banned or anything like that. The issue is this. You cannot do you. Ten years ago, we talk about a slippery slope. Yeah, in the privacy of your own
Starting point is 01:14:25 home you could two guys two women whatever three guys two women two guys whatever they weren't doing in public so nobody was concerned about it the internet is public they're now doing it in public that's the problem and if there is a problem needs to fixed, it's you should not be allowed to publish these things in public. There you go. Problem solved. I think it's a both and. I think, yes, it's the internet that's basically numbed our culture to a bunch of awful content that should be seen as egregious and people absolutely revolt against.
Starting point is 01:14:59 But at the same time, I also believe, like in California, we've got State Senator Anthony Weiner who's coming up with some new crazy radical proposal related to sex every single day and that's not internet related that's purely policy it's talking about what forms of abuse they can get away with to kids and it's consistently passing the legislature like it's making it through these committees because 10 years ago we would have said well it may be because of the internet but the fact is people in there i do think there's a level of this like well i said live and let live 10 years ago i still believe that i have this sort of framework of people do
Starting point is 01:15:33 what they want and i who am i to judge that's a very liberal principle whereas someone who's more conservative like me would say i actually think there's an objective line that we should all agree to if this wasn't on the internet people would not fear the negative press. So these politicians are like, if I oppose this, people will attack me online. It's the internet. So many of these politicians are just going to say whatever they think is popular. Well, the video from Pride got a million clicks. That's what they're going to agree with.
Starting point is 01:16:02 So I really just think when it comes to liberals there's no moral framework there's literally not they're just they'll lie about everything they i mean look at this we we had that person on the show and i'll and i'll keep it somewhat vague because i'm tired of talking about it who said they they like this with this book right here this book is gay that describes things children should not be hearing. And they said it shouldn't be censored from schools. Advocacy for a book that is
Starting point is 01:16:32 not for children being given to children, that would teach children how to use adult sex apps. They agree with it. Why? Because the internet said to. If there was no internet, they would just say whatever the TV told them to say. So I guess my question is, what ideology stops that from happening? Because I would argue that it's not
Starting point is 01:16:47 classical liberalism anymore. I think my opinion is that there is the need for a conservative uprising against this of family values-led policies, ideologies, cultural statements, companies that say like, no, no, we're going gonna go back to the basics here
Starting point is 01:17:05 stop talking about any of this no matter if you're an adult or a kid we don't want to hear about your sex life at all anymore the founding fathers were classical liberals yeah i think they would roll in their grave at the social stuff we've allowed in our classical liberalism though so but but it's not classical liberalism it's it's corruption and degradation and degeneracy but you just said liberals don't have a moral framework. So where does the line start? So when I say liberal, I'm talking about the culture war left. So colloquially, we use liberal to refer to a body of people, but it doesn't actually describe liberalism. Thomas Jefferson, a classical liberal, would, as you're correct,
Starting point is 01:17:36 roll in his, he's spin so fast in his grave, he would generate free energy. Yes. So Tesla. Exactly. Just, you know, we could hook up some cables to those coffins and we'll be power in this country forever yeah so classical liberalism is more about individuality meritocracy etc and even conservatives agree with the principles of the founding fathers in that
Starting point is 01:17:56 regard the seeds that were planted this country that granted people civil rights someone going outside and plotting and declaring they're going to come and commit crimes against your children those are criminal acts the cops aren't arresting these people it is not classical liberalism that we have laws being broken every day that police won't arrest people for it's it's just general social decay yeah so i guess i come back to like our constitution's only built for a moral and virtuous people even amongst the classical liberals they had such a sense of conserving something pure that we all have to agree on that or else the society is going to fall apart so i guess my thing is like if if we wanted to redeem so much of the cultural degradation that's taking place like do you is the goal just to bring
Starting point is 01:18:38 it back to a state where everyone's just sort of live and let live except for when it affects the kids what what's the goal because i see most of my classical liberal friends sort of not being on the front lines of a lot of this and not really karen where it's my conservative friends that are the ones leading the charge it's the mama bears that are conservative leading the charge are you talking about classical liberals or traditional liberals i'm talking about uh classical liberals that would not in terms of leftist, I'm making a distinction between leftist and liberal. I'm hearing you say that parents lost the teaching of liberal values to their children. And that's what led to a lot of cultural and societal decay. And I would argue
Starting point is 01:19:15 that it's actually parents becoming too liberal, that has led to a lot of this decay, and that there's a need for more conserving and conservatism back in society and in the household because we've allowed the the line of acceptability to just completely leave sight it's it's past the horizon at this point the way that i understand or the way that i use liberal and stuff like that i to me conservatives are conserving liberal values right progressives are trying to progress beyond liberal values um and i'm i think more about the philosophy behind the left and the right so someone like rousseau would be like the kind of the father of modern leftism and where and whereas like adam smith and and would be you know the founders of this country would kind of be the liberal idea that or what i think of as
Starting point is 01:20:06 a liberal so i i don't think that we need to have strict controls on people's private lives i don't think that the that that we need to worry about who's having sex with who i do like i'm i'm the guy that wants to get rid of the whole department of Education. Just get rid of it. Yeah, I'm with you on that. So like I'm a very small government guy. I want to get rid of as much bureaucracy as possible. And I think that the combination of getting rid of the bureaucracy behind the education of children is – I think that's a start, but it's not going to fix everything because like i said this stuff is in the curriculum as well so there has to be people that are looking that are teaching liberalism as in the fundamental rights of individual liberty and stuff like that and that even goes to the idea that your word is
Starting point is 01:20:59 important so like progressives the philosophy on the left doesn't come from the philosophy of that we can actually interact with reality. Right. They believe that perspective matters and lived experience matters, et cetera. And these are broad ideas that I'm talking about. So there's going to be people that are going to disagree with me. for purposes of this argument, people on the left don't think things like your word or being honest are important because they're consequentialists and they're postmodernists.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And so they don't believe that truth is a thing that you can actually come in contact with. They believe that the consequences matter, so they'll lie to you. So we need to have people explain why things like consequentialism are bad. And you don't do it by telling a child that consequentialism is bad.
Starting point is 01:21:51 You tell them, look, it's important to tell the truth and here's why. That's something people can understand. I think one of the big issues is conservatives for a long time blindly just supported cops. Yeah. And so you have, you have right now,
Starting point is 01:22:07 one of the issues in West Virginia is they did a drag show with kids. And so the people in the community are like, hey, are they going to arrest these people? Well, we've seen nothing so far. It's only been a couple of weeks. We'll see. But no one really thinks
Starting point is 01:22:19 the AG was going to go after them, despite the fact it's illegal. And it is illegal because here's the funny thing, and I pulled the whole law up again. It's so illegal, in West Virginia, it is illegal to cohabitate with someone.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Seriously. No persons not married to each other shall lewdly and lasciviously associate and cohabitate together, or whether married or not, be guilty of open or gross lewdness and lasciviousness. That's still a law, an an active law one of six states that still has a law in the book says if you're not married you can't live together wow i'm not suggesting they actually
Starting point is 01:22:53 enforce a law like that yeah my point is if that law is still in the books you better damn well believe a man wearing skimpy women's clothing and engaging in a sex show in public with children on stage is illegal. Yes. Why won't they just enforce the existing laws? Now, hey, if the left thinks the laws are bad, they can go to legislature and change those laws. But in West Virginia, this democratic institution has spoken and it is illegal to do these things. In fact, Jefferson County explicitly recently passed a norm and saying you can't do these things. The problem is, as people in big cities started engaging in and pushing the boundary more and more and more, cops were not enforcing the law. And so conservatives just kept saying, keep doing your your your good old job. And now we're at the point where I guess they're called what blue laws where it's like their laws, but no one would seriously enforce it.
Starting point is 01:23:46 So you'll end up now with an adult having a sex performance. I mean, look at that kid, that little kid dancing at an adult gay club, taking his clothes off on stage in exchange for tips. And this was like four or five years ago. It's disgusting. And no police action. You had the drag show with kids in Texas and the cops cops were like, we can't do anything about it. And a bunch of people pointing out like, yo, there's a law right here saying you can't do this. You absolutely can do
Starting point is 01:24:10 something about it. But the cops are like, no. And conservatives just kept saying back the blue. I'm like, I think we should just abolish the police. Just, look, go back to militias. Go back to the law enforcement is in the hands of the community.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Exactly what the left wanted. Right. But let's let's entertain this. I'm not talking about social workers showing up and going, everyone, calm down. I'm talking about if you come onto a public if you come onto a residential street, it is the neighborhood watch who is empowered to enforce the laws in their residences. That means when Antifa shows up with bricks, it is the local neighborhood watch who comes out, detains the individuals, and then has them arrested. Instead, what happens is the cops show up and they say, you know, look, if we arrest these guys, it'll make a bigger riot, so we're going to let them rampage through your neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:24:58 No, enforce the communities. How about that? Give the left exactly what they're asking for. Because if the cops aren't going to arrest the people breaking the law, why should I care if we have cops? Look, we've got mass rioting. Is the federal law enforcement arresting Antifa? No, they're arresting Trump supporters. They're arresting pro-lifers. I am not going to sit here and defend police when law enforcement is going to some pro-lifers house because they stood in front of a Planned Parenthood.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Okay, fine. You want to make that illegal? They went in front of a Planned Parenthood. Okay, fine. You want to make that illegal? They went in front of the homes of the Supreme Court. Justice is also illegal. And those people didn't get arrested. They closed all businesses during COVID. So they don't shut down a drag march, but they do shut down the church that stayed open in Kentucky during COVID.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Absurd. I'm saying, look. Trust me. I agree. I think that I have more hope for local police departments than i do for the fbi for example because it's so centralized and bureaucratic and corrupt at this point you can't redeem it so just get rid of it local police departments it was interesting during covet in california because if you were if you were with riverside
Starting point is 01:25:58 you were a cop that respected the rule of law you were not going to shut down businesses you had a sheriff in the county that was very much on the side of individual liberties. And you had a really respecting police force that actually did their job really well. If you're in L.A., though, you were shutting off people's power who were hosting house parties during COVID. And it was by those cops that did the same thing. So trust me, I'm not blindly back the blue. I'm not saying you are. No, no, no, 100%. There was a... I'm not saying you are, but...
Starting point is 01:26:25 No, no, no, 100%. There was a woman in Minnesota who opened her cafe. They filed charges against her. She fled. And the sheriff hunted her down and arrested her. It's cool. And so, look, you see this across the board, right? In New Jersey, in suburban southern New Jersey,
Starting point is 01:26:44 cops went and shut attila's gym down these cops don't care no they don't they don't enforce the law they will stand like luke ridkowski filmed uh an interview with a guy who's on a train a madman with a knife started stabbing people and the cops were like we're not going to do anything about that the cops in new york city are going to give you a ticket but they can can't stop crime. Now, don't get me wrong. There are good cops. We have a video going viral right now of a cop talking to kids about seatbelts. Then he hears gunshots.
Starting point is 01:27:10 He runs straight into danger. Hero. You got the cops who ran into that school when that trans mass shooter was shooting, and they did it by the book, and they stopped that threat, and they saved lives. Heroes. There are a ton of good cops. The issue, though, police have are no longer members of the community in regard to what we think is acceptable they don't want to be involved so when
Starting point is 01:27:32 in texas you have angry people from this area being like these people don't live here and they're putting bringing children to a sex show the cops go well i'm not going to get involved all it takes is for one cop to be like i I'll arrest him. It's illegal. Nope, they don't do it. They're afraid they're going to lose their job. And society has given them every reason to be afraid they're going to lose their job. It's why culture celebrates the victim, or excuse me,
Starting point is 01:27:58 they celebrate the perpetrator of the crime instead of the guy who jumps in and stops it, Jacob Penny or whatever in New York recently. Daniel Penny. Daniel Penny. Just today pleaded not guilty. Well, good good he was not guilty of anything it was a perfectly legitimate scenario where the women and the children on the subway were literally saying thank you to this guy so why are we not taking a lesson from him that's what i really agree with
Starting point is 01:28:17 your point that like it should be communities that are responsible for him yeah it's absurd and that right there was the best case story i think for what you're describing which is how on earth was the the the guy who uh was terrorizing women and children on the subway seen as some sort of hero because he used to dance on the on the subway platform while the guy who's actually stepping in to protect women and children is the one getting arrested liberal values would have said that you could you protect people like that's what that would be the liberal thing to do protect the individuals yeah it's just sad how those terms have become so distorted because if you're daniel penny was initially questioned by police and released and then later alvin bragg was like just kidding we need to arrest that guy so so you mean to tell me that alvin bragg
Starting point is 01:28:59 in new york will arrest a guy even though the police already determined it's self-defense but morrissey in west virginia won't arrest the people putting on sex shows in public with children. That is the problem. So, you know, I've met Morrissey, and I'm getting more and more upset. One of the issues is that we're trying to open businesses in West Virginia, but if it is the case that West Virginia is a state that allows adults to have sex shows in public with children present, as they did in Martinsburg this past week, and we got video of it, and the AG won't do anything about it, then I suggest divesting from West Virginia. Because screw that. Texas and Florida are doing a lot better on these fronts.
Starting point is 01:29:38 And everybody kept screaming, go to Florida instead. I got to be honest. I just, I like the mountains. I like the people here. It's MAGA country. It's 86% Trump supporting. Most people are in agreement. So I'm not trying to come down hard on the AG right now because I don't know what he's doing. But I expect to see action taken in this regard. Jefferson County banned this stuff. The people who live here are pissed off about it. And the people who are coming and bringing the stuff here don't live here. So I am frustrated that you get an AG in New York. You get an AG in D.C. You get two AGs.
Starting point is 01:30:12 You get Alvin Bragg. Well, in both instances. Going after Trump. Going after Penny. Clearly ideological prosecutions. When we actually have a law on the books, we see nothing. This is the problem. You want to fix all of this?
Starting point is 01:30:26 It's really simple. Red states need to actually just enforce the law and stop being whiny little crybabies who are like, but the New York Times will insult me and I'm up for re-election. Fine. I ain't voting for you. But we'll see. Maybe Morrissey will do the right thing and
Starting point is 01:30:42 it'll actually start bringing charges against the people who organized this event because we've got video footage of it and I'm supposed to start a business in this, a multiple, I'm supposed to move my business here, I'm supposed to set up a public, a brick and mortar shop and you mean to tell me that nearby they're putting on
Starting point is 01:30:58 sex shows and they're bringing kids to them? I expect the AG to actually bring charges to people who organized and put on this event as the law states you cannot do. Look, I can simplify it for you. This law says if two people, whether married or not, engage in open, gross lewdness, it's a misdemeanor. That's every Pride March. Well, look, call it whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I'm telling you, if we've got video of people putting on adult sex shows and bringing kids involved, that is more than just open lewdness. Where is the AG to immediately come? Now, you know what? They're scared. They're terrified. They're scared of all of these people. Well, if you're in West Virginia and you're law enforcement
Starting point is 01:31:34 and you are letting this stuff happen, I assure you, the people who live in West Virginia are very, very angry. Very, very angry. Look, the joke is, up on the mountain, it's a bunch of right-wing nutjobs. Jefferson County explicitly banned children being at drag performances.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Where are the cops? Granted, granted, granted. What I'm talking about outside of that is Berkeley County. My point is, the residents of this area, the opinion doesn't just shift when you cross county lines. No, the people in Berkeley County are pissed off about this. I talk to them. I'm pissed off about it because I'm spending money here. Mostly, let me clarify, I'm not saying that
Starting point is 01:32:11 we will see what the AG does, what the Sheriff's Department does, what the local police do, if anything. I'll give them time. I'm just pissed off that we can see in California, in New York, in Illinois, they release all of these criminals.
Starting point is 01:32:27 They arrest the victims. And then where we live, when we expect a rule of law, we still don't get it. Well, if you can't have it happen in West Virginia, this is supposed to be like the safest haven for people that believe that this type of nonsense is disgusting and grotesque, like 86% MAGA country, you would think that the DA here of all places would say, yeah, you know what? I can go arrest and know that I'm going to have a win in the court of public opinion, that the public will back me. My constituents will reelect me because they see me taking a stance against child indoctrination. If that can't happen here, something's deeply flawed because this should be the place.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Well, I don't want to jump the gun just yet because this was just like two weeks ago. Right. So there and there are people telling me that they're reaching out to the office and they're demanding action in this regard. Maybe we'll see something. I hope you do. Maybe we need to organize some protests. Maybe we need to take a page out of the Alinsky's book and start utilizing their own tactics against them. Maybe we need to bring people out for a peaceful march through these streets, demanding an end to this, not letting it happen again.
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Starting point is 01:33:49 All right. I'm not your buddy guy says I don't know or have any relation to Annette Lewis, but she's the Albertan woman I mentioned last week who was denied an organ transplant for not being COVID vaxxed. If we can help her with prayer as an aid, that would be amazing. Sorry to hear that's horrifying. Hope for the best. Lee Fagan says, DeSantis just said on Fox that he supports eliminating the Departments of Education, Commerce, Energy, and the IRS. Wow, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:34:15 I look forward to him deleting that War Room tweet where he put up deepfakes, and then we'll consider voting for him. How about that? Yep. Yeah, I'm not... I like all the things he's saying, but actions speak louder than words.
Starting point is 01:34:26 If DeSantis is saying he's going to do all these really great things, I mean, he's got to prove he actually cares about doing the right thing and take down one tweet. This is a funny thing. It's from the 4th, I think. It's been a month. And they can't just delete it and be like, we shouldn't have put that up. I do not believe they're sincere and being genuine when he says he wants to do these things.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Sorry, but y'all can do whatever you want. I'm not saying you don't have to vote for him. You got to look at who funds them. To me, it all comes down to the funding. Who's backing it with money? And I don't love the community of funders. That's true. I'm not as big on that.
Starting point is 01:35:00 You know, they ragged on Rubio for getting NRA money. And he was like, they're not giving me money to do things. They're money because of the things i do and that's the point i don't care who's giving desantis money but understand the people who are giving him money are giving him money because he's doing something they like yeah or expect him to do yeah i i i love that too i i get concerned that sometimes though with some politicians especially ones that have been known to sort of go where the political winds blow i.e sort of jeb bush in 2016 that the funding really does matter
Starting point is 01:35:30 and there's a reason why trump was the most grassroots funding campaign that the country's ever seen because he spoke in language of the people so he wasn't beholden to anybody at least removes a temptation when you're funded by the people because you're not having to answer to anybody else that may remove their campaign funding if you're not operating in a way that they like all right dark gift says super coincidence just heard of public square last week and love the app so much just got my business listed as of yesterday hey thank you thanks for joining us that's awesome what's your business shout it out we'd love to promote you right on boceva says do do you think New Hampshire
Starting point is 01:36:05 will remain a free state or will its blue neighbors slowly forced to become a commie woke state? Will freedom win? You know, Luke Rutkowski was like, you got to go to New Hampshire.
Starting point is 01:36:13 You got to go to New Hampshire. Now he's in Florida. Yeah. But I said, dude, the issue with New Hampshire is you're surrounded by blue states.
Starting point is 01:36:19 So, I mean, it may be a nice little safe haven so long as this system is existing, but in the event of social breakdown, you're surrounded. The worst thing about Florida is January. I'm sorry, worst thing about New Hampshire is January.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Yeah. New England's such a weird- You mean there's snow? Oh, God. It can be awful up there, yes. Nah, I think that'd be awesome. New England's weird because- As long as you got a good, strong internet connection and, you know-
Starting point is 01:36:42 Hunker down. You prepare, you go snowboarding. We're returning to the internet connection. Broadband. No, I mean, New England's weird because you do have people who vote right, but there's just not enough of them to turn the state. So like Maine is very famously, you know, they send Angus King up every year and it is a purple state, but they will ultimately always end up blue, at least right now.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I'd love to see a shift. It's probably not going to happen. We just moved our headquarters to Florida this month. Right on. June. Moved from San Diego. We're political refugees to Palm Beach, Florida. I can't do the snow.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I'm with you. I have a lot of... Well, I like the snow. West Virginia didn't have any this year, which kind of sucked. But I thought... None of this area had snow. No.
Starting point is 01:37:19 No snow this year. Wow. It's like the first time in a long time. And the fruit is all massive. So we have pawpaw, is they call hillbilly banana and normally you'll notice little buds growing this time of year and then in october they're massive they're already massive so i'm wondering if the warm weather has caused them to grow earlier the the fruit season happened a lot earlier but uh it's crazy we got grapes everywhere. I'm wondering if that may be because it was so warm.
Starting point is 01:37:47 The year before, we had snow several times. And you get grapes out here. They're called frost grapes. At first frost, they become sweet. It goes from tart to sweet. Now they're everywhere. And we think it may be that because it was so warm, the plants got an early start in sprouting and growing and stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:04 What's the hillbilly banana called? Pawaw pawpaw does it look like a banana no it looks more like um i don't know potato yeah i'd say potato what's it supposed to be like the texture it tastes like if you took mango banana and avocado and mashed it all together avocado's interesting to that yeah maybe mango banana mix is probably a better way to describe it gotcha but it's kind of sweet oh it's definitely sweet yeah it's a it's a it's a it's like a it's a you peel it open and it's got a it's like mango inside you know people make it like into all kinds of things but first time one of the first times i had it was as soda uh and it you could you could sell it alongside you know citrus sodas or pineapple or whatever it's really nice the fruits that we typically have in stores are because they're easy to grow and transport so we have probably five billion mulberries and the people i can't eat them i'm allergic but everybody loves them and they pick
Starting point is 01:38:55 them off the tree just eat them and uh you can't transfer them they break too easily then we've got wild black raspberry you can't buy them in stores for the most part because the yield is too low, so it's not a cash crop. But you've got little black raspberries everywhere. You can pick them and just eat them. Nobody wants to invest in growing a low-yield crop. Then we have wine berries everywhere. They're wine raspberries. They're Chinese raspberries.
Starting point is 01:39:18 There's probably 50 billion of them. They're literally everywhere. You can just grab a handful. They're like little candies. This is amazing. All right, T-Rex Pet Shop says, we're so grateful for Public Square. T-Rex Pet Shop has grown significantly as a result of Public Square.
Starting point is 01:39:31 If you don't like woke pet stores like PetSmart, Chewy, and Petco, support us as an anti-woke alternative. Michael, do you have pets? I do not have a pet. I'm allergic to pretty much everything, but T-Rex Pet Shop, you guys are awesome. I was actually introduced to your stuff last week, so big fan of T-Rex Pet Shop. Why were you introduced to their stuff? Are you allergic to pretty much everything, but T-Rex Pet Shop, you guys are awesome. I was actually introduced to your stuff last week. So,
Starting point is 01:39:45 big fan of T-Rex Pet Shop. Check it out. Why were you introduced to their stuff? If you're allergic to everything? Well, because our Instagram community loved them. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:52 So, everyone was messaging about T-Rex Pet Shop. There's some really cool pet brands on the app and they were the one that kept getting shouted out last week in a certain post.
Starting point is 01:40:01 We do these shopping guides where we say, ditch Chewy and replace it with these companies that are on the app and they were one of them so shout out to t-rex pet shop that's pretty yeah we we have a uh mr bogus has to get a very special food it's like prescription food so i don't know i don't t-rex i don't know if you mentioned if you had that we were talking about it before but we're going to like specialty shops like online to find it maybe t-rex you got him hook them up what do we got here eric miller
Starting point is 01:40:25 says question for michael how about having a media tab for public square you could advertise movies like the sound of freedom comics like rip a verse and music like trash house records it's an amazing question uh i will say this our philosophy as a company is to nail it before we scale it and so we have a massive mountain in front of us which is commerce we are trying to literally become the Amazon replacement. And we're trying to do it in half the time it took them. And so we have a massive set of challenges ahead of us, which we are going to excel at and exceed all expectations on.
Starting point is 01:40:56 But we will focus on that mountain first. And then we will worry about others. Having a media alternative, though, is an amazing idea. And I would love to one day incorporate it. There's actually an incredible company called Lore. You familiar with Lore.tv? They're amazing. Check out Lore.tv.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Yeah, it's really cool. They're basically us for films and they actually allow for consumers to help fund the films they want to see created. Pretty cool. So shout out to Lore. But I love the recommendation. We certainly want more freedom media
Starting point is 01:41:23 and liberty-focused media. That's for sure. Jack Domingo Conway says, I had a work social in San Diego last week. I was able to push the conversation to Mike Hess Brewing. I didn't tell anyone it was a Public Square business. Here's what you do. Right now, all of you, download Public Square,
Starting point is 01:41:39 go onto the app, look for companies that your company, your business uses, and switch to those businesses. So imagine you go to your, maybe you have an office and you go in the break room and there's coffee and there's snacks. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:41:55 You replace all the coffee with Casper coffee. You go to anything you need that you normally have to buy from one of the big chains, go to Public Square first and see if you can find something from a company that doesn't hate you. You know what? And I'll even say this. Even if a company just
Starting point is 01:42:14 doesn't care one way or the other about you, you're still better off going to Public Square because those companies agree with you on American values. This is what it's all about. A lot of the stuff that people need to understand when it comes to purchases are like business scale stuff. So, you know, we were talking about Anheuser-Busch's stock going down.
Starting point is 01:42:32 How much of that is retail investors? Very little. It's big institutions that are buying stock. And the reason it only goes moves in certain directions a little bit is because a big investment firm isn't going to sell off every single share. Retail investors probably sold, but they make up a small portion. Think about this. Imagine there's like a guy who's got an office building with like 10 floors and there's 10 break rooms. So they're spending $5,000 a month on coffee for their couple hundred employees. Imagine if you went to public Square, found a coffee company that was competitive
Starting point is 01:43:05 and liked you, and switched to that coffee instead. Or to those notepads, or to those pens, or whatever it is you might want. Now, you're taking funding away from the massive multinational corporation and giving it to people who actually care about your values.
Starting point is 01:43:19 That's what's got to happen. It's amazing. That's the plan. Yeah, so it could be anything. But this is what Jack Domingo is mentioning, a work social. Okay, the next time your company is like, hey, we're doing a picnic, a big thing for the family, why don't you order stuff, say, okay, go to Public Square and try and get everything you can from those businesses. Some local, some order online, whatever it is you can do.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Did they say Mike Hess Brewing? Was that in the comment? Mike Hess Brewing. Oh, yeah. The guy's a legend. He's a patriot. And a San Diego business that's really well known for super high quality stuff and actually that's an important note we were talking about bud light earlier how it's basically liquid
Starting point is 01:43:51 piss um like if if a company like that was able to get so successful and their product sucks like i i what i love about your coffee company and the companies that have been already mentioned that are on public square is like the only way we win is ultimately if the products are really high quality also because if we're promoting alternatives that are garbage we're not going to win in the long run people will go find the quality but what if you knew that there are actually tens of thousands of businesses that like you they don't hate you they don't want to indoctrinate you or your kids and they happen to offer really high quality stuff so So shout out. So this is our Appalachian Nights. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:44:26 We got a bunch of samples sent to us from a distributor, from a roaster, and then we made our own blend and then tried it and it was really good. Then had them perfectly formulate it and I think it's the best coffee I've ever had. Can I read your mission on the back? This is so cool.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Born of a desire for a bold coffee and a need to build companies that support American values, Cast Brew Coffee was built to provide an alternative to the faceless corporate ecosystem and to foster a parallel economy that supports freedom. That's amazing. You tapped into a desire too. We've talked a lot about the right-left,
Starting point is 01:45:01 conservative, progressive, all that, but there's a much deeper desire that goes way past political lines, which is there are a few corporations that run everything, and they don't like us. And regardless of political affiliation, nobody likes shopping with Amazon because it's a bunch of nameless, faceless corporate brands that don't actually have a story to tell,
Starting point is 01:45:19 whereas there are thousands of small businesses like this that actually contribute something positive to society more than just a good profit margin, which I appreciate. Starbucks views you and me like bees producing honey. If a bee dies, they don't think twice. They walk up. They wear their protective gear because they're worried about potential backlash. They go and they harvest the honey as we swarm around. And they don't care what we're saying or what we're doing. They just want to make sure they're not going to anger the hive
Starting point is 01:45:48 and cause problems while they get the honey out. I don't like that. I want to make a coffee company that is trying to earn the business of an individual by going to them, looking them in the eyes and being like, hey man, I have a good coffee. It tastes great. Would you try it? You do? Would you like it? You should buy from me. Whereas the Starbucks approach being so large is more like we have 300 million people in this country. If we
Starting point is 01:46:13 change the price in this way, we'll increase by X percent and all that stuff. It's all looked at by numbers. If we do a pride campaign, what's our risk assessment? It's like we're going to lose 3% here and 4% there, but gain 6% here and then lose 2% there. I don't care about any of that stuff. That's the faceless sales act of the massive multinational corporation.
Starting point is 01:46:35 We want to be like, hey, why don't you come hang out with us at our store? You should come and we should hang out and play video games. We want it to be community-based. The goal of the coffee company is not just to sell bags of coffee on the internet. That's just the start. The goal is to create a physical space where people can come and communicate with like-minded people. The idea is you walk into a coffee shop for your morning coffee and there are TVs and
Starting point is 01:46:58 those TVs are playing Tim Kast, Steven Crowder. They're playing Ben Shapiro and things like that. So when the average person is just walking by and getting their coffee, they are now a part of this community too and welcome to the conversation. And for other people who don't know who else agrees with them or doesn't and is scared, you know that if you come to a place like this, most people are going to agree with you.
Starting point is 01:47:16 And you're going to be watching that show and if they get mad about it, they'll leave. But the average person is probably going to be like, he makes a good point. I do think he makes a good point. And then you'll talk with like-minded people. That's the big vision for for doing coffee because otherwise it's like you know we could do a bunch of things we could sell supplements we could sell t-shirts whatever people are like why coffee well the real reason is because we want physical spaces and hanging out having a cup of coffee is the
Starting point is 01:47:39 place for people to to do things and we want to put up stages we're going to have comedy we're going to have shows we want to we want to bring back community and one of the. And we want to put up stages. We're going to have comedy. We're going to have shows. We want to bring back community. And one of the big things we want to do is Saturday morning cartoons where parents will come at 7 a.m. with their kids. Cartoons will play
Starting point is 01:47:54 that are approved, family-friendly, none of this weird woke garbage. And there will be pancakes, sausage, and eggs, and whatever. And the parents can hang out and talk while the kids
Starting point is 01:48:01 hang out and play. And that creates communal bonds between people who are in these local areas. That's what I want to do. That's why I'm pissed off about what's going on in West Virginia when I see them doing drag shows with kids because that is a problem.
Starting point is 01:48:14 But I will admit, I think that our mission in the long run does away with that culturally by making it unthinkable. Like Ron Paul said, should abortion be illegal? It should be unthinkable. Well, some things Ron Paul said, should abortion be illegal? It should be unthinkable. Well, some things should be illegal.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Some things should be enforced, but we will work to make it so that certain things are unthinkable and we have a good family friendly community where people work for each other, believe in each other, we respect individual liberties and rights, but we protect kids from predators. Let's read more Superchats. Gina Thomason
Starting point is 01:48:44 says, rumor has it that public square is coming after Amazon. Is that true? When take my money. I love it. Uh, well, we hope not to take your money, but we would love for the businesses on the platform to take your money. Certainly. Uh, we are definitely coming after Amazon. That is our goal. That's where we're going. That's ultimately in the long run, what we aspire to do, but not just by recreating the wheel and doing it the same way Amazon did it. We actually have a few really key differentiating factors. For example, the small business point we're talking about, Amazon, the way they've structured it is that you only see the mega corporate entities that they want
Starting point is 01:49:16 you to see that they have 30% rev share deals with. So you never actually get to see organic small business exposure. The other thing that's different is obviously that Amazon doesn't have any local functionality. You don't have an ability to go pick up something from your community or for that to default there, which is a primary difference that we will always keep present. The future of Public Square, similar to how you're describing this, is very community focused. It has to be. Otherwise, you're not really scratching the itch. If you don't feel like you belong in a community because you need trust in a transaction, you're not going anywhere. So we are definitely going after Amazon. We're actually going public so we can be a company that's well-funded enough by the people with
Starting point is 01:49:53 some special protections against activist investors, which is really exciting, so that we can be by the people, for the people, owned by we the people, and have that capital to be able to confront this. This movement is very expensive. People don't realize that. Amazon has had billions of dollars to play with. And so we are going after their power source. We need people that agree with the principles of liberty and the foundational values that this country was built upon to actually shift their dollars toward companies that embrace those values. And that has to also be capitalized. The markets need to be democratized where we, the people, actually have investment opportunities for people to pour money into because right now
Starting point is 01:50:28 in the investment world it's dominated by ESG and DEI. So from that framework we are absolutely going after Amazon and we got something exciting. When are you going public? We expect to close here in the next month or so. It's really exciting. To go public and you go to the stock exchange and everything? Yeah, yeah. Do the big banner drop? The whole
Starting point is 01:50:44 nine. Wow. Yeah, yeah. We're partnered in a SPAC transaction. So CLBR on the New York Stock Exchange is the SPAC we're partnered with. So that's the company that we're essentially taking over. And then we're the existing company on the stock exchange. Same way that they went public. So DSPAC transaction.
Starting point is 01:51:01 And it's an incredible partnership. And it's a like-minded team that is wanting to take us public. This will allow us to be a company that's not just funded by angel investors and accredited ones, which I love. Are you a billionaire yet? No. You're going to be a billionaire. I'm very poor. You're going to be a billionaire.
Starting point is 01:51:17 We're pouring everything into the company. When I look at this and I look at Bud Light, the Bud Light effect proves what you're doing is is needed and let me read the super chat for you from uh cam cam he says my wife was about to buy a new dress at target after all of their pride she went over to public square got a whole new wardrobe let's go so it's awesome the the stuff that we're seeing this guy's complaining because you cost him a lot i know i'm sorry target was supposed to save you money by that boycott happening, but yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Here's what happens first. People say, hey, don't go to Starbucks, boycott Starbucks. And they're like, where am I supposed to go? Yeah, exactly. I gotta be honest, like, I went to a small cafe, a local cafe, because I was like, I'm not gonna go to Starbucks.
Starting point is 01:51:54 And I went in there and I was like, I would like a cold brew with heavy cream. And they went, okay. And then, I kid you not, the lady pours the coffee and then she takes the coffee around like somewhat behind the counter where I can still see her turns her back and does something
Starting point is 01:52:10 then walks back over with coffee I look at her and I'm like that's half and half and then she's like, yeah and I was like, dude, come on you could have just told me you didn't have it I know that if I go to Starbucks, they've got everything and that's unfortunate because I'm not a big fan.
Starting point is 01:52:25 I do like that Starbucks is going the capitalist route of being like, hey, we shouldn't do these decorations anymore because our customer is getting pissed. That's a good thing. So I'm of the mind to incentivize corporations to do the good thing. So I'm not anti-Starbucks. If they made that move, I think that's where you say like, hey, Starbucks, instead of they're all striking and trying to take money away from you. I'm going to keep giving you money if you keep doing things that we like.
Starting point is 01:52:47 But what we need is what Public Square provides, an actual way to find what you're looking for. When you're used to these big corporations like Target having what you need, it's hard to know how you just go and find something. Public Square created that directory. Now it was easy for this guy's wife to go find a dress. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:53:04 That's so good to hear. Another thing is like all of the big corporations are already fed right to you. I mean, if you Google something or if you search for something on the internet, it's probably going to go through Google. It's probably going to be powered by Google and it's probably going to give you an option to buy it from Amazon automatically without any kind of input from you. So the ability to search is a big deal you know yeah it's cool it would be really cool if we get to the point where
Starting point is 01:53:32 the the businesses that are super activisty they're just it's gonna get to the point where you're gonna go you're gonna go on the app and you're gonna find most businesses being like we absolutely agree with this because the average person does and then you're going to find these weirdo activist businesses struggling and going out of business like that one anti-cop cafe in Seattle was it oh yeah I can't remember they were like
Starting point is 01:53:54 they were saying defund the police or whatever they wouldn't allow cops to even be served and then because of the crime they went out of business or something like that there was a car dealership near us that suddenly there were no cars. And when I looked it up, it was like, woman owned. It's like, this is a bad sign. There was a communist coffee shop in Toronto where you could have your coffee free and it was donation based and they didn't last nine months.
Starting point is 01:54:16 But you're right. is that what actually takes place is a total transformative shift from corporate entities that have made a bad bet on woke activism and ESG and DEI. And it actually totally dismantles those philosophies because the goal too is that those companies wake up and realize like we took a bad bet.
Starting point is 01:54:36 This was a bad move and the profits are moving, not just because people yelled at them, but because they actually move with their feet and shifted their dollars elsewhere. So stories like that are amazing. Thank you for sharing. That is absolutely the goal.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Yeah. All right. Let's grab some more super chats. Neglectful Sausage says, imagine a state which not only doesn't stop, but actively promotes child abusers who touch kids. And you sit here and do nothing. Just go, I'm outraged. How is this different?
Starting point is 01:55:01 You won't stop this right now. You're referring to me. I'll tell you what we're doing. We actually have people reaching out to the attorney general. We are absolutely taking this seriously where we have the ability to do so. I don't live in these other states where this stuff's happening. So what am I supposed to do? What am I going to do in New York?
Starting point is 01:55:15 Well, I don't know if it's directed at you because states like New York with Kathy Hochul and California are doing enough damage on their own and they have enormous populations. I know they lean blue, but surely someone in there should be trying to complain at some point. Look, I went to the reps here in West Virginia and I was like, I find it absurd that blue states have legalized social poker clubs, but West Virginia hasn't. And they immediately were like, you're right. Let's draft legislation and figure out how to make social poker clubs. The only reason the action is being taken is because someone has to go to them and say, guys, I want action on this. And they're going to, if they agree, they agree.
Starting point is 01:55:53 I think there's a strong likelihood that the people we have reaching out to the local law enforcement about these issues, they're going to be like, you're completely correct. We're going to navigate this. What I believe will be likely to happen is we'll probably get a state-level law specifically covering these things. Instead of being like, we're going to apply what they're doing to an existing law,
Starting point is 01:56:16 they'll probably want to say, let's from this point forward say we put an end to it because that's typically the easier legal thing to do without starting a bunch of fights. But we'll see because I think the laws already already have it but you'll get the arguments like oh that that cohabitation law is is ridiculous nobody would ever enforce something like that even though it does cover open lewdness in public we'll see what happens nathan c says carl marx had an incestuous relationship with his daughter evelyn
Starting point is 01:56:43 she committed suicide when he remarried. His other children died from neglect. Is that true? Looks to Phil. I mean Phil's the one who was always talking about Marx. You know the philosophers. Well, I didn't even hear that. I'm sorry. What was that? Karl Marx had an incestuous relationship with his daughter Evelyn. There's a lot of things about Karl Marx that I've
Starting point is 01:56:59 heard. I've heard incestuous relationships. I've heard that he had issues with boils because he didn't wash. I heard he constantly was asking for money from people. These are all things that I hear from people that tend to not be partial towards Mark. So I don't know how accurate they are, but I mean, they're fun to talk about. All right. What is this?
Starting point is 01:57:21 Matthew says, re-Biden CPAP. I'm late 30s with CPAP. Needs to be worn at night and during naps. Marks disappear after a quick face wash. This is more than CPAP. It could be that he's just so old that the marks stay. He doesn't have a collagen to bounce back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Yeah. But what I'm saying is, because some people are like, no, those straps are CPAP straps. Yes, I know they are. My point is, they are trying to hide that he's on oxygen. I'm not saying he is on oxygen. I'm saying he isn't oxygen i'm saying i don't believe them they lie so often i would not be surprised if they said look if we do the typical method of putting the oxygen tubing in then people are going to notice yeah let's do a c-pap machine and claim it's just sleep apnea it's not a big deal which this means it's implying i know that photo was you know early in
Starting point is 01:58:05 the morning presumably it would be like you weren't at night but then he has these marks throughout the day then are you implying that he's napping throughout the day like that also doesn't look good none of these options are good the iv marks on his hand yeah yeah i bet it's so much that it's bruised up uh once a week i'd bet well remember during the debates they had the remember you saw the the cord that came out of his wrist remember this was it really yeah yeah yeah there was that picture that got leaked of this little cord it looked like a tube that was coming out of his sleeve right here they had him on an iv drip while he was debating how else do you keep him awake for two and a half hours i bet i bet nad i bet they're nicotinamide and i know nadiv treatments yeah
Starting point is 01:58:46 so it's got like b vitamins and stuff in it and it's rejuvenating yeah hey man it's expensive a lot of people do tax dollars joe rogan uh i don't think he does it anymore he's now he takes the the nmn i i think i i he someone told me he mentioned on his show that doesn't do any d but he used to do uh i think charlie Charlie Kirk swears by it as well. Yep. You know Biden's doing it. I think Hunter gives 10% of his crack cocaine to the big guy. That's what keeps him.
Starting point is 01:59:11 While he's sitting next to him. Sprinkling it into cereal. 100% for the big guy. All right. All right. We got one more here. One more here. Samurai EAC says, I got my company on public square.
Starting point is 01:59:22 We're the largest direct to civilian body armor manufacturerian body armor manufacturer in the U.S. Let's go. We changed the market. Our company mission is to glorify the Christ by equipping the free men of the United States with tools of liberty. Wow. What a mission statement. I feel like these men have so much fun writing these mission statements. Like, they're powerful.
Starting point is 01:59:37 They're cool. Yeah. When we were writing this, I was like, we need to, like, hit these points. Like, this is what it's all about. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,
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Starting point is 02:00:40 and see stories from me, from Chris Burtman, from a bunch of other great people. I did, I recorded Seamus for two hours today for his podcast Seamus. It's on Rumble. At the end of it, he told me, you make me want to rethink the First Amendment. So I think that's interesting.
Starting point is 02:00:55 Go watch it tomorrow. That's a heck of a tease. Yeah. I don't know, man. I think I'm interesting on Rumble. No, I'm just kidding. If you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Instagram at HannahClear.B and on Twitter
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Starting point is 02:01:24 always good to see you Michael good to see you pleasure man let's get to the after show music on YouTube, all the things. And I'm Serge.com. That was a good one, guys. Always good to see you, Michael. Good to see you. Pleasure, man. Yeah, let's get to the after show. We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple of minutes. Thanks for hanging out. you

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