Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #810 Italy Offers COLOSSEUM To Elon Musk And Zuckerberg For FIGHT w/Alex Stein

Episode Date: July 1, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Kellen join Alex Stein & Ashley St. Clair to discuss Elon saying the Zuckerberg fight could be held at the Roman Colosseum, DeSantis' new attacks on Trump, PornHub pulling out of Virginia over new age verification law, & Michigan passing a bill making misgendering a felony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Italy has offered Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg the use of the Coliseum for their fight. Please. I don't know who may be out there, a higher power. Whatever you are, please, all I ask is to make that happen. Could you guys imagine? The Coliseum, lights, cameras, the stage, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg. That would be the greatest thing ever.

So, yeah, we're going to talk about that. And then we got a bunch of news. I guess it's news. Joe Biden is going to bypass the Supreme Court rulings because, you know, he's fairly corrupt, but sure, whatever. Michigan is making it a felony to use the wrong pronouns. What else is new? And in France, there's a major riot going on. A Republican congressman said that he thinks alien ships may actually be from a lost civilization.

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Ashley St. Claire is still here hello i haven't left they've kept me and kidnapped here i had to eat sushi and look at a skate park yes that was fun so you admit it there's a skate park that's a big conspiracy it's there hannah clara's here oh hey she's already talking sorry i'm hannah clara i'm a writer for timcast.com hi everyone ian crossland here too i read that comic i like it silence do good cool stuff man you guys did a great job that's really interesting it's intriguing for for like a six page preempt that's really cool thanks it's well done it's kellen filling in friday for surge uh and i just want to say happy birthday grimace so shout out we love you grimace

r.i.p all right yeah i think he diedI.P. All right. I think he died today, too. It's his birthday, but I think he died as well. Let's jump into the first story. The only story that matters. Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk, Italian government offer, fight like true gladiators

at the Coliseum. The Ministry of Culture's office issued a statement saying, there have been no... Okay, so they're already raining on our parade. This is the update, literally, as of right now.

There has been no formal contact from the ministry nor any written document. Even if the news appears tasty, it is unfounded. The initial report was that an official from the government of Italy contacted Zuckerberg

about staging a UFC fight against Elon at the most legendary battleground in the world. You know why I think it's more likely they did make the offer? I think they're panicking and they're saying, no, no, no, no, no, we never made this offer. No, I think someone probably did. I think it's more likely they did make the offer? I think they're panicking and they're saying, no, no, no, no, we never

made this offer. No, I think someone probably did. I think someone was like a preliminary look, if someone in Italy was going to entertain the possibility, the first thing you got to do is figure out if Elon and Zuckerberg would do it. You can't go to the government and say, hey, let's prepare the Coliseum for a UFC fight. We'll

book them later. No, no, no. The first thing we'll do is they'll go to Mark Zuckerberg and say, hey, how would you feel about fighting at the Coliseum for a UFC fight, we'll book them later. No, no, no. The first thing they'll do is they'll go to Mark Zuckerberg and say, hey, how would you feel about fighting at the Coliseum? Zuckerberg tells somebody, the story goes viral, and it was preliminary in the sense that

you need to know for sure they want to do it before you make any moves to prepare for it. But what do you think, Alex? You don't think they would just fake it for the publicity and just say that,

I mean, it's a possibility? I just, I don't believe anything that I read in the news. You think he's just lying about it? Yeah, they're just trying to get some clout. I just want to believe it's true. He tweeted it. Elon said there's a high possibility the fight happens at the Coliseum.

That's where it should happen. And as he says, the most entertaining outcome is the most likely. I highly agree with that. That would be the most entertaining outcome. Do you think Elon's just manifesting though? I don't think he needs to manifest. He probably actually got the opportunity. I highly agree with that. That would be the most entertaining outcome. Do you think Elon's just manifesting, though? Like, no one from Italy was... I don't think he needs to manifest.

He probably actually got the... What if he's a huge believer in manifesting? That's how he's going to get a fight at Coliseum. We got his tweet right here. He said, some chance fight happens in Coliseum. I told you. See, there you go. He needs to work on my endurance.

It's a non-zero chance. He said he needs to work on his endurance? Yeah. You know, Lex Friedman sparred with both these guys, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, and at the end of it all, he said, I love these guys. I had so much fun. I want them to be sparring partners. I don't

want them to actually fight because you break Elon Musk's brain. That's a big problem for a lot of people. Same with Zuck. So I'm kind of with Mark. I don't even think it has to be like wet blanket. Like womp womp. It could be really great to see Elon and Mark spar and to see them become friends

and work together for the future. I would agree. I don't think Elon's mom is too happy either. You've seen her tweets. Do you think Elon would consider a performance enhancing neural link to help him in the fight if he hooked himself up to a computer

to give him an advantage. His neural net versus Zuckerberg's meta net? Yeah, I mean, somehow they both need to hook up to a computer and fight in the metaverse, and then nobody gets hurt. If you were going to do a boxing match and you could somehow have an augmented chip or system so that you could read your opponent's algorithm,

like you could see their muscle, you could see what part of their muscles were getting hot, how fast parts of their body were moving. Would you augment? Well, yeah. I mean, I think the future, you know, we joke about this a lot, Ian, but I really am a conspiracy theorist. I'm a tinfoil hat wearing.

But I do believe that that is the future, that they're going to tell people to plug into a computer, some sort of vanilla sky fake world, and you're going to live in some sort of pod. But on Earth, they're going to say, you only live until 70 years. But in this pod and you're going to live in some sort of pod, but on Earth, they're going to say, you only live until 70 years, but in this pod, you're going to live for a thousand years. Because, more than that. Or more than that.

No, no, no, but I mean, more than just being immortal, they're going to say, in the pod, you can fly. Yeah, oh yeah, you can be quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. What was that? You identify as a carrot? In the pod, you can be a carrot. Exactly right. In the pod, you are a carrot. Carrot world. Imagine somebody being like, I just feel like I was born in the pod you can be a carrot exactly in the pod you are a carrot carrot world imagine somebody being like i just feel like i was born in the wrong body i'm a carrot and then they plug you in and you go into a fake world where every other person has an ai generated npc and they're

carrots and you live in a world where everyone's a carrot that'd be better than what's happening right now to be honest well that's why they're making the world so bad metaverse carrot they want you to have such a terrible life you know just be totally based basically destitute can't make any money so that your only option is that you live in this computer where you're a millionaire it's a long-term marketing scheme yes i mean is is cypher wrong when he's eating the steak and he's like i don't care that's the best part of the movie really yeah think about it because like do you really want to go back to the Matrix? I probably would.

I mean, if you're on a ship with a bunch of dudes, like, pooping, you know. In a bucket. In a bucket. You know, that movie's terrible. Or you can go to the fake metaverse where you can just eat steak and be a billionaire. But once you know, dude.

Once you know, it's like, knowing that your body is in some metal tank, you know, in a pod, being pumped full of bugs, no steak would ever taste as good. You'd some metal tank, you know, in a pod being pumped full of bugs. No steak would ever taste as good. You'd be like constantly like, you know what I mean? Well, I don't know. My dreams feel real sometimes. You've had a dream that felt real.

How do you get? Well, I'm just saying in the metaverse or whatever, when you're plugged in, your dreams could feel like it's real. I mean, I've had sex in a dream and it felt real. I i've i mean i've eaten in a dream it seemed like i was eating food every time i try punching in a dream my hands move real slow that's weird running away you're like but you know what i still have do you guys have stress dreams i have a dream and it's recurring i don't have it as much anymore where i wake up in the middle of the night and it's a friend calling me and he's like why aren't you at the exam right now? And I get his email on the text. I have that regularly.

I don't have that because I didn't go to school. You guys have regular dreams about missing exams? No, it was like, I always had this dream when I was in college that I had signed up for a class and then somehow forgotten about it. And on the last day of the semester, you remember, and you have to go take a final. Yeah, or it's like, it's something like that. Something you have forgotten, that sense is always there. It'll be like a football game.

I'll be in high school, and I'll be like, I got a football game tonight and I can't get there. It's weird. Yeah, I have dreams like that, but it's more like I missed the show. Seriously. Yeah, that's a dream. I'll have a dream where it's like our car broke down in DC

and it's like we're not going to make it back in time. What do we do? And I'm like, wow, I'm going to miss it. Mine where I'd have a play that night and I didn't know my lines. I forgot to memorize my lines, but I'm all going on stage in the dream and it's like ugh. I have this recurring nightmare

where Alex Stein is boxing a guy and that's terrifying. That's a scary dream. Is that what's going on? I'm boxing. Yes, guys. Everybody, July 22nd. Misfits 008. You're looking at the newest Logan Paul wannabe. Primetime

Alex Stein. I'm going head to head against Mo Dean and a no holds bar well there are rules so it's there are whatever there are bars yeah so you can hold some bars there are rules and boxing gloves but no uh helmet no headgear and uh it's three two minute rounds and modine you better watch out dog because i'm gonna bring the thunder and the lightning if you mean. I was noticing you're looking a little thin. I am. Thank you, Tim. Tim's been very nice to me. And to that girl last week, there's a – I'm telling you, I've never seen more sushi in my life. I thought I was in Japan when I walked in.

You have a refrigerator full of – why do you have so much sushi? It's Friday. I know, but you've got a lot. I mean, there's a lot. There's a platter. There's 30 people who work here. That's a lot of sushi. We get two trays for like 30 people normally like the scraps we throw to the chickens but the chickens are in an emergency holding

facility due to the air quality that's what i heard which is improved so nothing can come home yeah the air quality is totally safe now it rained i'm very happy this morning i was inhaling that oxygen stuff really works yeah i got a question about about everybody getting put in pods you guys were talking about that earlier so you said they think like they want people in pods just because like they want you to, at least I've talked about this. They want, they want to like control people and make sure they don't go crazy. Put them in the pod.

Do you think that they, people really believe that if we were happy and we started pairing up and having families and like communities, that that would actually be a bad thing? Do you, is there like a thought that that would be bad somehow? Yes, because they hate you.

Like, what is it they hate? What do you think they hate? You are the carbon they are trying to reduce. You're a peasant. They want to eradicate. If you're trying, like, imagine this. Imagine you have roommates who keep pooping on the floor.

You would like to not have those roommates, correct? That's true. That's how they view you. They're like, look, we're over here trying to worship Malik and create a one world currency. And this guy Ian Cross is making these videos about abolishing the Federal Reserve. That's a problem for us. And Ian, it said it on the Georgia Guidestones. They want to reduce the population.

It said maintain a population under 500 million. It didn't say reduce the population. Oh, I see what you're saying, yes. But there's a reason why they want a small population, because they just want the elites and then basically like a housekeeping staff. So they just don't want there to be like two classes. And that's kind of where we're going. There is no middle class anymore.

And that's why I think people have lost the American dream, because nobody can afford a single family home. And if you look at like the price of a single family home in the 60s to now, I mean, it's just, it's impossible impossible our parents had a lot easier when it comes to i came to the american dream the u.s government and big pharma and tech companies love depressed people because who's gonna get into these spots like if you have friends a community and a family why would you be like i need to live in virtual reality whereas if you don't like your life you're lonely you're depressed of course you would get into the pod. You're the first to go.

But they like everyone here. They don't like liberals. I maintain this position. What do you mean? That when we're talking about powerful, wealthy elites and people who run corporations, if you went to the average CEO and said

which group of people would you rather have? Rural conservatives or urban liberals would you rather have rural conservatives or urban liberals they'd say rural conservatives hands down unquestionably you think that i i would say it is fairly obvious for a lot of reasons the first think about climate change big problems but it's all stemming from cities think about all the problems Democrats talk about with overpopulated prisons. Cities. Then think about the fact that conservatives don't protest. But they don't say that.

They're killing cows in Ireland. Sure, sure, sure. It's not absolute. But what I'm saying is conservatives don't protest. They live on little farms and mind their own business. The amount of pollution produced by the average conservative is substantially lower than produced by the average liberal. So if you look at everything these global elites are talking about, all the problems they're experiencing, it is dense cities, not rural populations. So I always put it like this.

Alex, if a person came up to you and said, Alex, have you considered aborting your children? What would you think? Do you think that person's your friend or do you think they hate you? Would you consider sterilizing your kid? Just wondering. Yeah, I would think you're a psycho. That's not a person who likes you. So when you have these Democrat politicians

and people like Bill Gates or whatever being like, I think people should be allowed to remove their children and abortion should be available for all of these people. It's like, I kind of think you hate them and you're trying to have less of them. You know what I mean? Yeah, but to be fair, did you see that Lindsey Graham where he was talking to zielinski and how he was so happy about more

dead russians i think so that was a while he's like oh if that means i guess they were talking about giving them more weapons and he said a month ago he said oh if that means more dead russians good so he's i guess conservative but it doesn't matter the right side or the left side they don't care about us they don't care about us. They don't care about their kids. This is my point. This is my point. The way I describe it is, you've got a chicken coop. The chickens keep pooping in their water. You go into the chicken coop and you say, hey, you chickens, you stop pooping in your water. The next day you come outside, half the chickens are still pooping in the water.

The other half have stopped. Which chickens do you eat? Yeah, the water pooping ones. The ones that won't listen, that keep polluting and destroying everything. So when I look at, when you go to West Virginia and you drive around, what do you find? People have solar panels. People have septic systems, which are very self-regulating in a lot of ways. You've got to get them pumped.

But if done right, it could be, you might not have to. So the pollution produced in rural areas dissipates. In cities, it concentrates. And then what do you see? The advocacy for, in blue states, things that stop liberals from having kids so it may be they really don't care about us at all and all they're saying is let's enact policies that result in less people but those policies disproportionately reduce liberal populations yes but i also see a disdain from the elites for people who are self-sufficient and they continue to pass legislation that is contrary to who are self-sufficient, and they continue to pass legislation

that is contrary to people being self-sufficient. And there's a huge... You can't even collect rainwater, for God's sake, in many states. There's... The war on the Second Amendment... But those are in blue cities. Those are not in, like, West...

You look at red states, and they're doing the opposite of that. No, even in red states, there's still a lot of restrictions to a restrictions that i don't agree with i think they have a we are winning a lot of flyover states and the people there i think they do have a disdain for we have absolutely one on two way the expansion of constitutional carry is unprecedented the expansion of shell issue in recent years yeah i mean the past 30 years you know in the 80s you couldn't get guns and it was until 2008 the supreme court i think it was heller was a heller versus dc when they were like actually it is an individual right

to keep in bare arms you know outside of your home and stuff like that so we're winning on that all that in new york you struggle. In blue, dense blue areas, life is a struggle. They're releasing criminals into the cities. There's an increase in violent crime. People are getting pushed

in front of trains. You come out to West Virginia, you got no problems. Crime is down. It's lower than the national average. Haven't seen one crackhead since I've been here

from New York. And they do have drug problems in West Virginia. You know, they do have opiate problems. But I didn't know this. I actually thought crime was fairly bad here.

And then we had, I think it was Riley Moore talking about it. I pulled up the stats. Below average crime in West Virginia, statewide in all jurisdictions is below average.

So if you want to live in New York where they're releasing criminals and justifying it, where they're allowing lewd and lascivious performances, advocating for people to terminate their kids

or sterilize their kids, those things all result in the destruction of that population. Meanwhile, in red states, they're doing things that allow the individual to thrive and to flourish. You can't even have pizza. Why is this agenda, is it agenda 2030?

They're trying to create mega forest. They're trying to re-naturalize large segments of earth and not have humans go there. No more human footprints in these big forested areas they want people away from like the out the what do you whatever you would call this the the rural areas and they want to pack people into these mega cities i don't know i'm not speaking for everybody but yeah but but a 15 minute city is not it's not a mega city it's a small pod city

yeah where everything's 15 minutes away yeah Yeah, where everyone's like... The hospital, your grocery store, everything you would need. A 15-minute city is not going to be 20 million people in one circular city. It's going to be small pod cities all over the place. But the reason why that's bad, too, is it's easier to shut down when it's a small city. Well, exactly. Well, I don't trust these people at all anyway,

so it doesn't really matter. To wrap it all up with a nice little bow, who cares who they like and don't like? They do bad things all up with a nice little bow. I'm loving the rural life. Who cares who they like and don't like? They do bad things. Dude, rural life is nice. I'm really starting to love it. Well, you know, it's funny because everybody talks about Texas. I remember, Ian, you were just like, oh, you know, Texas and Joe Rogan.

People are moving there. And the reason why Texas is good is because it's for fat people. There's like a CVS on every corner. There's a McDonald's. And so it's like, yeah, I love the rural life, too. But I kind of like that I can just go to the Walmart or buy my tug-friendly bathing suit at Target and my Big Mac all within half a mile.

I want to pull up this tweet from the DeSantis War Room. And, okay, let's pull this up. My personal opinion is slightly negative on this tweet. I think it is cringe. I think DeSantis' team is correct, and they deserve... So on the political point of this video, they deserve the credit.

Their criticisms are fair, but man. You guys ready for this? Let's go. They tweeted to wrap up Pride Month. Let's hear from the politician who did more than any other Republican to celebrate it. Here we go. Oh, can you fix the audio? Yeah, try it now. Nope. Wait, there we go. Oh, can you fix the audio? Yeah, try it now.

Nope. Wait, there we go. I will do everything in my power to protect our LG BTQ citizens. If Caitlyn Jenner were to walk into Trump Tower and want to use the bathroom, you would be fine with her using

any bathroom she chooses. That is correct. In the future, can transgender women compete in Miss Universe? Yes. Make America's ladies. Psych! Man, it's growing on me. I cannot think of anything more horrifying. It really has shut down drag. Just produced some of the harshest, most draconian laws that literally threaten trans existence.

Congratulations, Ron Sanders. Mission accomplished. You win. I can't do it. I like the music. I think the point being made is correct. I don't, I am not as critical as Trump for, you know, in the past when he held up the LGBT flag and all that stuff. He is not talking about what we are currently seeing. He was talking about other things. There are many people that we are friends of and fans of that previously did align themselves with the traditional LGBT stuff.

And Trump, I believe, was correct to be like, hey, those people are good. They're going to vote for us. What we're seeing now is very, very different. To smear him over that, I think is wrong. But Trump absolutely was not as harsh. Ron DeSantis is absolutely going after this in the culture war more so than any other leader. But the American psycho bit and the Chad meme stuff, it's just,

it's, it's like if they took that out and just showed clips of DeSantis, like pointing to the press and like answering questions with news articles, I'd give it an a plus the weird meme things is too much. Like I'm with it. Oh, kids. I like it.

I have a preference for Trump over DeSantis, but I, I like this video. I think it's good. Do you like it? It's catchy. Yeah. I like it. I have a preference for Trump over DeSantis, but I like this video. I think it's good. You like it? It's catchy, yeah. I like it over the top. Yeah. The music works for sure. Yeah. They only need to show Brad Pitt's face once. They showed it twice. And American Psycho

is great. Yeah, the second shot of the Psycho. That's so good. Is he trying to align himself with being a psychopath? No, it's very Gen Z. So the Patrick Bateman, the American Psycho memes, those are big on TikTok and Gen Z. So it's very Gen Z-esque.

You're the one that's not with it. But that's my point. Ronda Santis is older than me. Why is he trying to... Are the kids going to be like, wow, he's so cool? He's like me. They're not going to vote for him anyways. Statistically, Gen Z just doesn't turn out but are you genzy yeah you're gonna vote for him right no would you would you vote for him if it wasn't trump no really no who's on your who's your top contenders right now i don't know i don't know to be honest trump would be at the i have a

preference for trump at the moment what about vivek i? I do like Vivek a lot. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? RFK I love because he challenges the system, but he's still anti-2A. Yeah. Oh. But I do, I will support him just because I think he has an important message. He still is a Democrat, so if you leave Republican, you're not going to like him. Yeah. This Trump stuff, I didn't know that Trump was all in on the inviting. See, this is the thing. democrat so if you leave republican you're not gonna like him yeah i was this this trump stuff

i didn't know that trump was all in on the inviting see this is the thing if someone had asked him are you okay with letting a trans political movement indoctrinate children into becoming trans and having sex surgeries he probably would have been like no like what are you talking about of course that's crazy so i don't think this is stuff from back in 2015 eight years you didn't see it coming i mean remember it whenever he debated palin joe biden was against gay marriage everyone's opinion shifts over time as especially if their their uh political cohorts change their opinion and i think we have to give trump a lot of credit when he was talking in 2015 no one knew exactly where it was going some people could have predicted that we'd be selling gender-affirming bathing suits

to children in Target, but not a lot of people believe that. Those are for adults. It's just gender-affirming when it's for children. To what Ian said, it's like, listen, I love the pride flag because now I know if I'm on a street, I know which are the gay bars. Oh, that's

a gay bar. So I think that's good that we should have pride flags. I'm not against canceling the pride flag but what does a pride flag symbolize is the only difference between me and a gay person or a straight person a gay person is their sexual preference so this flag basically indicates your sexual preference why does that need to be in a school like that does that need to be on a flag well i mean i listen you want to have that on a flag? Go ahead. You want to do butt stuff and have a flag for it?

Actually, go ahead. But why are we going to put it in the kindergarten classroom? That's where, and I think even though they're kind of trolling Trump, I think Trump, like you said, would probably have that same feeling. Like, obviously gay people exist, but I just don't want you grooming my children. Yeah, right. I also think just both the Trump and DeSantis teams on social media, especially on Twitter, are really cringe. It's just getting too much. The internet is so cringe right now with Trump and DeSantis teams on social media, especially on Twitter, are really cringe. It's just getting too much. The internet is so cringe right now

with Trump and DeSantis. Just stop. Look, if this really worked for Gen Z, I stand corrected. If the kids on TikTok are watching this video and now they're inspired to vote for DeSantis, they're not going to. But I like the production value of it.

I think it's good. I don't think it was made by them either. They're reposting Proud Elephant. I'm just like, it's getting, I don't know, man. It's cringe. It's cringe on both sides. Yeah. Both the Trump and DeSantis influencers.

What's going to happen, though, is the Trump influencers and the DeSantis influencers are just going to kill themselves, and we're going to have the same outcome of 2020 probably. They're going to nuke each other in the primary then refuse to vote for each other. That's what we need is the Trump-DeSantis get-along meme where they grab arms and they're like, together strong. I think they should just fight in the Coliseum.

Oh, that would be good. Winner gets the nomination. I won't vote for DeSantis. If he apologizes, has his team apologize and take down that deepfake video, then he's back on my list. But it's like, at this point, we're over a month out. I don't know if it's... He probably didn't even approve that.

Doesn't matter. How hard would it be for him to be like, right away? I didn't approve of that. Take it down. That was wrong. Sorry about that, guys. That's all. Five seconds.

If he put out a video, here's the thing. If they delete the tweet and then put up a tweet saying we deleted that video because it had deepfakes, Ron is unhappy that it was put up without his approval. It is no longer, you know, live. Then I would be like, okay, cool. Is your issue with the dishonesty of the deepfake?

So, for almost a decade, the media has been lying about every single thing trump has ever done and it's more than lying it's what it's one thing when you have these political videos that are like did you know that you know john smith voted for the for the hating puppies act or like you know alex stein voted against the we love puppies bill why doesn't he love puppies it's like oh that bill had nothing to do with puppies like we get it it's manipulation that's annoying it's bad and everybody hates it with trump it was even worse they were editing

videos out of context lying about his quotes and i spend almost the better like the better part of a decade constantly talking to everybody saying that's not true that never happened and it is annoying and i hate having to do it all the time and then ron desantis comes out with a video his team did where they they made deep fake images of trump hugging and kissing fauci and so now it's just like all of that stuff i'm angry about they just decided to one-up it so i'm pissed yeah i think it's bad precedent too right like we're gonna have a republican candidate attack another republican candidate by fabricating something like yeah that would never work for journalism why are we allowing it to stand for

social media because otherwise we just open the door for it i would be a hypocrite if i said ah it's no big deal because i've been complaining about the media lying about trump non-stop the entire time now don't get me wrong people are are like, yeah, but Trump lies about DeSantis. And I'm like, and he should not. But he did not create fake images to smear Ron DeSantis. Well, he kind of did. And again, I have a preference. I have a preference for Trump again. What did Trump create?

He didn't. No, he didn't do an AI. But they were posting photos of the empty DeSantis booth saying nobody came by all day. But that wasn't the case. And they ended up getting community noted on it. It's all dishonest, and I think on both sides it's wrong. And I hate all of it,

and the Trump camp shouldn't be posting misleading things, but it is substantially worse to have someone go onto a computer and create several different iterations of fake images to trick people into thinking a thing happened that didn't happen. Well, to be fair, and I'm not trying to be contrarian or white knight for DeSantis,

I love Donald Trump. But Donald Trump was besties with Fauci in a way. I mean, I know those are artistic representations. I agree with the point. I know. I mean, they were kind of made, even though they used a fake artificial photo, they were making a true point. So it's kind of, I know, i hey i'm just saying that to be

contrarian if they didn't do that the video's fine yeah but instead they do it i say hey that's not cool you take that down and then they attack me for it and i'm just like okay these people are disingenuous like how about you prove that you're better than all of the bs we've been dealing with is trump posting out of context clips or whatever, like every other politician always does and we all despise it? Okay, that's really bad and I'm annoyed by it. He's as bad as all the rest of them. Did DeSantis just

do worse than all of them? Great. All the politicians are at baseline lying pieces of trash and DeSantis is one degree below them. That's where I'm at. So, you know, all they gotta do is delete the tweet and be like we shouldn't have done that. And I'll say okay guys because i gotta look this video they're right ron desantis has it has really done a lot as it pertains to the culture war and in protecting kids and and putting up barriers to protect the cultural values and the moral values that we do have

and that's a winning position that's fantastic it's better than trump he's got a lot to go after trump on in terms of the primary. But they're certainly not doing themselves any favor with this current press team. They seem to be just digging a hole for him. No, and he's a young man. I don't know why he's making this push now. I think he, I guess, maybe sees blood in the water. Maybe like a shark right now.

I think he sees Trump as vulnerable. Do you see Candace Owens tweeted that he's done? Who, DeSantis? Candace Owens said that he's done. Let me pull that tweet up. Yeah, but I don't think they're going to stop trying to investigate Trump. I mean, I don't think this... They're not. I mean, it's never going to stop. They're going to find something. I mean, it's just... It's going to...

Never-ending cavalcade of charges to try to stop him from running. And I think it's going to win. I think that there will be a time and I know Trump says he'll fight till the end or whatever, but I think there'll be a time where they'll say, hey... I mean, this is just pure speculation where maybe he does get in trouble for a crime and I know Trump says he'll fight till the end or whatever, but I think there'll be a time where they'll say, hey, I mean, this is just pure speculation where maybe he does get in trouble for a crime and I think they're kind of laying the groundwork

for Biden to get in trouble for a similar crime and then maybe they both get pardoned. So Candace Owens tweeted, sorry to say, sorry to the say, sorry to the say it, but the DeSantis campaign was dead on arrival and it's time to admit it. Tons of mistakes.

Needed to be more upfront about his intention to run. Doesn't come across as honest and he's boring. You can say it shouldn't matter, but it does. He also needed someone more like Kayleigh McEnany rather than petty Christina Pichot running comms. The influencers that are still cheerleading for him are those that recently moved to his state and want to

reap the benefits for standing firm beside him through his inevitable loss. I'm not knocking the influencer hustle, just calling it as I see it. They know he can't win either. Also, their weird takeover of their community notes gives people a fact checker vibe. Sometimes the notes they add don't actually debunk anything, getting very Snopes-like. Jenna Ellis says, Candace probably consulted President Jeb for this spot on take. Candace says, when you authored this tweet, did you think it was funny clever interesting generally interested in

your thought process on this honestly chat gpt could have come up something better um highlighting that one just because like is this it consulting with jeb to criticize the dissonance campaign his polls are tanking i'm just he's just on the fighting like i just i i don't understand why this is the conversation we're having i think it's a legitimate conversation to have should we allow or permit faked images to be used in any sort of campaign setting i think that's a good question for journalism for integrity but generally like i am tired of republicans fight each other like just come up with something interesting to say about policy. That's actually all I need right now.

I don't care if your staffs hate each other. I don't care about any of that. Because what I want is someone, the person who is leading policy conversation for me right now is RFK Jr. And he's a Democrat. So what are the Republicans doing? It seems like a waste of energy.

He's got in worse stances. Sure, but he's a Democrat. He's not going to have the same chance. Alex and I both had to preface. We. Sure, but he's a Democrat. He's not going to have the same chance. Alex and I both had to preface. We're like, I swear we love Trump. Yeah. Because it's terrifying. They become very culty, especially on the influencer

side and online. They're a little rabid. I have no worries about Trump supporters. The DeSantis people are ravenous. I think they both are. I've gotten it from both sides because I get accused of being paid by both of them. I think they both are. I've gotten it from both sides because I get accused of being paid by both of them. I think they're both pretty,

pretty vile. Certainly Trump has his pit bulls that are, you know, yelling. But like, when I, when, like, I don't know how to describe it. We've been doing this for a long time.

I've been critical of Trump on a lot of things. People got really mad at me when I said that he lost in 2020 and they were like, you're crazy. And then sure enough, Trump was a lot of things. People got really mad at me when I said that he lost in 2020, and they were like, you're crazy, and then sure enough, Trump was never inaugurated. They were like, in March, it'll come. But it is nowhere near as bad. Having

people be like, yeah, Tim's an idiot, but it's okay, because I say these things versus the DeSantis people. Yo, I put out a tweet about Trump doing something wrong, and I'll get Trump supporters being like, yeah, I hear you. I put out a tweet about DeSantis and I get a hundred tweets instantly of people insulting me and I'm just like yeah dude all you're doing is making it worse for DeSantis maybe that's their intention well this is they're just trying to hurt him this is why I don't think the fighting

will ever stop because I mean politics is just Hollywood for ugly people so they're going to continue to create a way to fight with each other to get more clout or get more clicks. I mean, that's why they always put in these fake bills that are never going to get passed. So I think that's like, to be honest, DeSantis probably loves this now, this fighting. I mean, I'm just once again speculating that because now we just talk about him. Now Ron DeSantis is on the same level as Trump. So it kind of helps to start. But he's not.

That's the point we're making is his polls have been cut in half. Well, yeah, I know. But I'm just saying he has the cachet that he's a threat to Trump. But he's not. That's the point we're making. His polls have been cut in half. Well, yeah, I know. But I'm just saying he has the cachet that he's a threat to Trump. Trump does seem a little threatened. Here's what I think. I think Ron could be the frontrunner right now if he had a good press team. Despite the fact that he was hemming and hawing about whether he was going to run, his policy says enough.

Like what he's done in Florida. Like he is probably the best politician in terms of leadership that we have in this country. And then his press team comes out and just keeps setting fires over and over again. And for whatever reason, they aren't fixing it and they think it's good. I don't get it.

I would agree with that. Well, Veep, the show Veep on HBO, that's like a documentary. Like really, I'm telling you, the people that are working in these staffs, even the high people that I meet with, you know with that run Marjorie's or any politician, these people aren't that exceptional, Tim. They're all just like normal people.

I mean, I'm just being honest. So they're just trying to figure it out. This is probably Christina's first presidential campaign, so they don't have any idea what the hell they're doing. I mean, I don't think Michael Malice would take a job doing something like that with them. He would with the Libertarian Party or whatever, but they need a Michael Malice. Michael would be good for them, yeah.

I don't think he would work with DeSantis. Maybe if the price is right. Michael being an anarchist, he might ideologically say, I'm not interested. But for the Libertarian Party, that was the thing, that he was going to be the press secretary. Someone like Michael Malice is so culturally, historically, and press

savvy, if the DeSantis campaign were to hire someone of his caliber right when they started, he'd be the frontrunner. No question. And he's snarky. He's good. I mean, Malice would be a great mouthpiece. And he's a good person. He's a really good person. Apparently a great actor too. He just did an episode of Normal World

with... Oh yeah, I saw that clip. Yes, we were on that. Everybody can check it out. Actually, do not check out Normal World. Go to Primetime with Alex Stein right now. Do not subscribe to any other Blaze show. Do not mention any other shows while I'm on TimCast. Do not mention. Get your super chats in. Get your super chats in.

Tim, would you consider ever getting into politics at this stage? No. Do you have any idea how much power I would have to give up? Do you have the power I have? That's a Lex Luthor quote. Well, I'm the same way. We go down to Congress, we do these shows, and I'm like, I can feel the invite. They would be happy to have newscasters come and support the campaigns,

but I don't want it. I don't want that. I don't want to go take the title. I don't need the title to change the world. It's also very disheartening getting involved in politics on the campaign level because you realize that a lot of these people are just kind of circle-jerking each other,

and that's why nothing gets done. And by that, you mean it's a circle of jerks who are patting each other on the back changing directional momentum yes it's just a bunch of guys all patting each other you mean it's like a like a fraternity because it kind of felt like college when i was at congress like a bunch of yeah isn't it funny yeah it's like it's seriously when you're walking through the halls of congress it's like college dormy yeah no really it's like you walk through long fellow hall in those halls it's very weird though because i actually did an official

tour and i don't know if i said this last time but as soon as you go on the official capital tour they bring you in for like this 20 minute video that gives you the history and like within the first minute it's like these are hollowed grounds that was built on the backs of slaves like like literally immediately they make you feel so guilty but then after i watch that video then i'm walking around everywhere and then dc for the rest of my trip i'm like oh my gosh this is built by a slave this is built by a slave it is it has this kind of creepy old college weird deal the funny thing about what is it like uh what building were you mentioning long longfellow yeah i think it's there's there's like a little market where you go in and you can grab stuff and then like scan a card or whatever to pay for it.

There's like a Subway and a Baskin Robbins. You know, it like walking around and then it's like the rival team is like across the hall and they're like, that's where AOC is. And I'm just like, this is so childish. Well, the George Santos, I remember going there and there was literally people camping out. CNN, when he first got in there, camping out in those hallways and just the vibes in there it's just very weird i love him you do i like vish what's george santos all about he's like our anna delvey oh i think he's just kind of like

didn't he say he was i love him say something like i didn't say i was jewish i said i was jewish well i'm kind of jewish i kind of vibe with that too but uh no you know there's this weird thing now where the conservative movement is the counterculture so george santos being like an openly gay man that is like you know he's worn drag but he's like did he really though he denied it didn't he well who cares who cares i've worn a dress whatever but my my point is uh it's like he's the counterculture because he's like the gay guy that's not for the gay agenda. So that's like, I think that's why he's successful or fits in because he's like that. He did a review of the White House Correspondents Center fashion on Twitter.

Yeah, see, that's funny. It was funny. It was fresh. Like, apparently he's interested in it. And it's like something that conservatives sometimes need because they have this reputation for being too buttoned up his tweets are great too but if you're gonna slam george santos for being a liar why don't you get the rest of them in congress yeah they all lie yeah i want to i want to jump to this story here because we'll talk about cultural stuff this one is it's it's terrifying and funny at the same time the post-millennial

pornhub pulls out of virginia over age verification law what wait wait what are you hold on there a minute they blocked users in Virginia from accessing the site in reaction to the state's new age verification law according to 8 News the new law which takes effect July 1st would require porn websites to verify users in the state are at least 18

before they can access adult content so instead of you know verifying age they were just like then you don't get any porn they did the same thing in utah in early may they they are so desperate to show children adult images they boycott the state when they can't well i don't think that's it i just because they don't want to deal with any of the legal ramifications and having to certify all these people because then now they're liable if they show kids porn. So I just think that's why they do it, because the laws even. Right.

So what you're saying is Pornhub has no problem operating in the state if it means children can access their content. Yeah, I mean, they want kids to access it, but they don't want to have the risk, the legality. It's too much work for Pornhub to have to make sure kids aren't using their services. That's fair. Yeah, I agree with that statement. Yes, it's too much. for porn hub to have to make sure kids aren't using their services that's fair yeah i agree that's a yes it's too much it's not cost uh beneficial for them in may when they blocked utah because utah made the same you have to be able to show your driver's license or verify it they're like this is crazy having to show your id every time you come to porn hub it's just not going to protect children like that was their actual complaint they said that this is

a ridiculous way to handle it so like strip clubs that don't check ids yeah but tim we're joking about this but the united nations came out and saying they want to get rid of age of consent law so it's like they really do want to show kids adult content and then when we talk about porn up like you know they say it's so crazy for a kid under 18 to look at porn which i agree with but like a 14 year old can get a mastectomy? It's just so weird. 18-year-old, you know, 17-year-old can't get a tattoo, but they can get gender reassignment surgery. They're chanting

that they're coming for our children. And then when people are like, hey, did you hear what they said? They're like, no, no, they didn't say it. But, you know, they do say it all the time. We say it every year. It's our chant we always say. It was just a joke. No, we say it all the time. But this one time, we actually didn't say just a joke We say it all the time But this one time we actually didn't say it

Another weird twist in the Pornhub thing Is that Louisiana also has an age verification law But Pornhub never blocked them And did comply And I don't know why that is They just said okay Louisiana It's because they're so backwards They wouldn't be able to prosecute it

I went to LSU It's the wildest place. Have you guys been any time in Louisiana? Because it was the last state to change its drinking age laws from 18 to 21, they were like the last state to get federal funding for the roads. So the roads and highways suck in New Orleans.

Good for them for holding out, though. Yeah, see, that's Louisiana. It's like this thing. It's called Lagnappie. It's like a little extra. They have this very nice kind of party atmosphere, but because of that the city's like run like trash you know the whole state's just not run very well it's crazy to me we talked about this uh this past week there are tons of things you can't do in public that you can do online in public which makes no sense there

are tons of things we wouldn't allow someone to do at a brick and mortar establishment we allow them to do online which makes no sense i think it's because things we wouldn't allow someone to do at a brick-and-mortar establishment we allow them to do online, which makes no sense. I think it's because... You can't walk into an adult bookstore, you get your ID checked. You can't walk into a sex shop, you get your ID checked.

Online, you can. No ID check. That's insane to me. It should be that every porn website or adult website requires registration and verification before you can use it. Sorry. That's just the way it works.

Well, there's an interesting discussion going on about Twitter in that regard, too, because you can create a Twitter account at 13, but they also allow porn on Twitter. Hold on. Hold on. I think Twitter... Here's the technicality. It's not so much Twitter's business.

If you go out into Times Square with a big photograph of porn, you'll get arrested. So if you post porn on Twitter where children can see it. It's illegal. It should be the same crime. I don't understand the argument for, yes, I understand you can't play videos of porn out in the public, but I should be able to play it in the public on twitter where children can see no no no none of that none of that what do you think the remedy for that is police enforcing the law well how would they enforce that they would see an account post the illegal content then subpoena the company and say

under this law it's illegal and a judge orders you to hand over the data of the individual then they would go get a warrant like they would go to the house and investigate and like any other criminal case like let me ask you a question a guy wearing a ski mask is is handing out porn mags to people in time square and holding a big how do they stop that they go there i mean it's rampant on twitter though i mean it's like. There's a lot of replies. Hold on. Shoplifting is rampant in San Francisco because we're letting it be. Just because we never enforce the law

doesn't mean we just don't do it anymore. We have to be like, yo, we gotta stop it. We need more resources for cybercrimes. I was gonna say, do you think we need to expand cybercrime resources? Absolutely.

Because what you're saying with shoplifting, you send a police officer in person. Do we have a gap in law enforcement where they are not trained to advocate? It's not that because many of these people post their own videos to the public under their own names. It's that law enforcement and government can't keep up with technology. So like they don't have a big enough presence on Twitter to catch these things? No, it's that if you go to a cop and say, if you go to a police officer, a police station right now, and say there's a guy who lives a block away from here who is posting, he was showing pornographic images in public and children could see it. The cops are going to go, whoa, okay, let's write this down.

Where was it? It was on Twitter. He'll go, oh, I don't care about that. What's the difference? and I, I think I told you this before, Tim, but they,

I had a serious stalker who was talking me through Twitter, YouTube. That was me. No, he was not. He, he wasn't funny. It was a pretty serious stalker and the FBI ended up getting involved. And I had an agent from the cyber crimes unit who called me and he said,

have you tried calling Twitter and YouTube? And I said, with all due respect, sir, if you think I could call Twitter or YouTube, you should not be working in cybercrimes. And this was a federal agent, FBI agent. You can't take a big poster of two adults having sex and put it in your front window for everyone in the world to walk past and see. You can't do that. If you want to legalize it, by all means, go to legislature and have them all vote to make that legal. Yeah, but my buddy Cassidy Campbell and another guy, Alex Rosen, they do these predator poaching

videos, Tim, and I'm sure you've seen those, where they'll go, in some cities, the cops do get involved, but they'll show cops a whole cache of these are texts, messages. This guy thinks he's messaging a 13-year-old kid, and the cops, they have the evidence. They'll say, oh, we can't touch it. So I think it comes down to- Yeah, baby yeah i know it comes down to you know are they actually they'll they'll give you a ticket for having a busted headlight that you didn't know about they'll they'll they'll you're a day past your plate registration you'll get a ticket you'll be speeding you'll be under the limit but they'll pull you over and give you a

speeding ticket anyway these stories are rampant. Everybody has some ridiculous story. I knew a dude who turned right at a red light and they mailed him a blowing a red light ticket. Yeah, because he didn't stop long enough. No, he did. They said they thought he ran the light outright. Yeah. They don't care. When it comes to petty

crime, they'll enforce it with a hammer. When it comes to COVID restrictions, they will lock you up. Hair salon owner, right to jail. You own a cafe in Minnesota and you open up for a couple days, they hunted her down in Iowa to make sure, and this is the sheriff, to make sure she suffered. A till-less gym, you want to open

your gym so people can exercise? Because you disagree with the edict issued by the governor, the cops will show up with smiles on their faces and arrest you. But heaven forbid, any one of these cops when they're standing outside of a club that is doing a sex show that they've invited children to the cops in texas said sorry we won't do anything about that i think it's the the difference of putting up like porn in a front window facing out onto the street and putting it on twitter is

that on twitter it's parentally supervised likeally supervised. A kid can't get internet without buying a router or buying a phone. That's not true at all. To kind of agree with what Ian's saying, there is a difference between posting a picture and then sending that posted picture directly to somebody, if that makes sense.

I'm not talking about that. I'm saying if you post a tweet of porn, as many people do, I view that the exact same as taking a big sign of the porn picture and sticking it in the ground outside. Anyone can see it. A kid in a school library.

Well, then the school should be... An argument over resources and an argument for public access. Oh, yeah, it is. No, it isn't. No, it's not. If it costs $100 to get into something, then it's not public. A kid who doesn't have bus fare is not the issue. If you post it in public, you are granting access to public.

That's the issue. Just because some kids can't get on Twitter doesn't mean it's not public. It is public. That's the argument. It's not. I don't know if legally you would consider internet public. It is. It is.

It's literally and legally considered public. It is legally public. It's like a legally considered public. It is legally public. They've already ruled in courts. If it's public, then how come a guy can shut it down? You can't shut down a public park. You need the government to do that. But Elon can shut down Twitter.

Slow down there, Ian. First, there's things called privately owned public spaces where, in New York for instance, that's what occupy walsh zuccotti yeah zuccotti and chase plaza and deutsche bank privately owned but public and so there were certain restrictions on what they could and couldn't do and so once it got to a certain point of the protest they couldn't shut it down chase was smart and shut down their plaza instantly before any of that could happen twitter is privately owned but it's already been ruled a

public space hence hence politicians. When they tweet, they create public forums. They cannot block people. Courts have already stated that. Now, I think this... I'm suing AOC. Right, over this.

Because she blocked you and it's a public space. She doesn't have a right to do it. It is in public, period. It's not up for debate. It is. The courts have already said it. So the issue is,

law enforcement knows that adults are publishing images in public that children can get access to, but for some reason they don't care. They won't go anywhere near it. Our society is in decay. Go back 30 years and watch what happens if a guy would print out a big poster with people having sex on it and stand in the town center waving it at people.

He would, like, bad things would happen to that guy. And he would get arrested. Data proliferation. We haven't been able to keep up. You can make 100 million copies of something now, but we don't have 100 million copies

of the cop. We only have one cop. So you need AI. I think we need artificial intelligence to police social media. No, no. I mean, you give me a better option. No.

I'd love to hear a better one. But AI is terrible at distinguishing things, right? Didn't at distinguishing things right but it's better than no people like zero people is even worse than ai the issue is not that we need a better system for it the issue is quite simply the culture police will see it and go meh it's like how do you find out who did it even because a lot of the accounts are fake or... So how about this? You can't, if you sue Twitter, then you destroy Twitter. How about this?

In all instances where an individual under their given name and photograph publish it, then the investigation is quite minimal. You then go knock on their door and say, Mr. Smith, did you publish this image to your Twitter account? You did. Place your hands behind your back. You're under arrest for posting lewd images in public.

Did you know that in many states, if you have a gun and that gun is in a position where a child could get access to it, that is a felony? Yeah. So like if it's in your room locked in the closet oh hold on there a minute it's got to be in a safe they have these child protection laws what about west virginia we already talked about it open lewdness is illegal what about retweeting porn should that those people also be arrested that's an interesting question that will be up for it is kind of a gray area well that's a court that requires precedent and that's a normal process in the United States law. A police officer will say, you published this image to your 10,000 followers.

They'll say, no, I retweeted something that was already public. Then the argument becomes, a guy was handing out pictures of porn in public, handed you one, and you held it up in the air for everyone to see. You are now in trouble. With, like, when data is leaked,, like government leaks and things, and then people retweet the data, like are they committing the same felony that the person... No, that's a whistleblower. But they're basically holding up the illegal. No, because it's not illegal to share it,

it's illegal to steal it. So when it comes to like the Pentagon Papers, the question is, was it illegally obtained? Well, there's whistleblower protections. The news media committed no crime by publishing that information. Tim, I want to make a point about the culture, though. And this is a more simple analogy, not just the fact that everybody's trying to basically give kids gender reassignment surgery and make everybody get an abortion. But just look at the change of our architecture from the 60s and 70s.

Brutalism. I mean, it's this weird postmodern era of just crap. Like even the newest baseball stadium in Texas, we had the ballpark in Arlington built in like 99. It's just beautiful post-modern era of just crap. Like even the newest baseball stadium in Texas, we had the ballpark in Arlington built in like 99. It's just beautiful, grandiose, epic ballpark. The newest one they built, I forget it's called Globe Life or I forget what it's even called. And it looks like a Costco. I'm just saying in the past 20 years,

we've gone down when it comes to architecture. Just imagine. Brutalism. Everything's a white box. And that's crap. That's terrible white box. And that's crap. That's terrible for society. There's no art. But you know what it is.

I was talking to Seamus about it. He was saying that before the internet and print, this was the art medium. To see the great works was the buildings we would produce. Then as we move into newspaper and radio, art and creativity

moved into those spaces, buildings started becoming less and less relevant in the discussion i think that's part of it i think it's also there's a lot of planned obsolescence that goes into that yeah i feel like it's like to make everyone feel like there's no uh regional significance right like if you're in new york city you can tell by the buildings and they're supposed to be different than the buildings that are in san francisco which are supposed to be different than the buildings that are in san francisco which are supposed to be different than the buildings that you might find in like a major city in montana whereas now you get major corporations

that put up the same blank building everywhere so there's no sense of identity and therefore you can't cultivate any sort of uh regional pride and it's like when people build new houses there's always problems but houses built in like the 70s and 60s just last the test of time it seems like so there's something there's like a degradation of the carpenters like like look at this the the uh gargoyles and stuff outside of these buildings in new york city they can't even repair them we don't even have the same people the stonemasons that can even do that plastering which used to be like the big thing there are very few true plastering crews left on the issue of porn let me give you guys a very simple scenario if you want to post it to your twitter account your account

has to be age verification locked that's it so you will make a post and if you publish it to people now you're in trouble if like to if open to the public for children if you want to do adult content to make it safe and legal you put a age restriction filter on it and then if a kid comes across it they can't access it and the only people who can are those who verify their accounts on twitter i'll give you a real world example you walk into a 7-eleven back when i was a kid and there were some magazines but those magazines were in black plastic you could not see the magazine you could see the top that it would say the name hustler playboy but you'd like oh man you couldn't see it and kids weren't able to buy it they'd be like i can't sell you that so you

couldn't actually open it up it was wrapped you couldn't see you could only see it was a product so it was in public but not displaying anything for kids to see what about if someone's sitting on a park bench with a playboy reading it and there's a kid like 500, 100 feet away walking by? Yeah, typically then a cop will be like, hey buddy, come on, there are kids around here, put that away. But if the kid walks up behind the guy and looks at the magazine over his shoulder, then typically someone will say, hey buddy, put that thing away. And ultimately the kid would be the one that made the mistake. Now you're talking about simple judicial discretion. I guess the question is,

is it illegal to have a Playboy open in a public park? The question of legality is the interpretation of the judge. A cop could say disorderly conduct for anything you do. You can fart in public, and a cop can be like, that's disorderly, you're under arrest, and tell it to a judge. The judge will then determine

whether or not you actually violated that statute. I know, I got a felony for farting in public. It was a gross fart. It was really bad. A lot of poop in that fart. Oh, one of those. Yeah, it was a really bad situation. Like a horizontal fart. Yeah, I went to jail for a long time. I just got out. It was a loud burst. No, but

I don't know. You just got out. When it comes to the porn stuff on the internet, I think that's kind of the most cancerous thing of the reason why kids are so sexualized and i think that's why we have a lot of this and depressed well not just a depression but this sexual confusion because you look at like a trans person you might be attracted to the boobs and then you see a penis because they go to a drag queen story time at a young age so i'm just saying we're over sexualizing our children and that's having just, it's having an effect

that we can't, you know, quantifify or whatever. We can't figure out what the hell that's going to equal because we don't have any past generations that were exposed to all this pornography.

We kind of do. It's creating sexual dysfunction. We're seeing that erectile dysfunction is skyrocketing among young men. And testosterone's way down. That could be plastics. I think that's probably our diet and stuff like that but kids kids human beings were never meant to be exposed

to this level of information period that okay but i understand information access is just a thing that we're gonna have to learn to adapt with children being able to get instant access to porn on twitter that's a problem that was an oversight of the 2000s. 2000, that people didn't realize when the internet arrived that they should be protecting kids' brains from it. Well, Ted Bundy said they should. Ted Bundy said if you don't want your kids to end up like me, keep them away from porn. I think

the way Twitter should work is the moment your account posts porn available to the public, you get an instant age verification. That's what I'm talking about AI. You would use AI for something like that. But it could fail. But I think you could use ai to do that because if a person's like oops i forgot you don't want to throw them in prison for that necessarily i forgot what i forgot to post 18 age verification on that on mine and you're like whoops i accidentally

threw a playboy in front of a bunch of kids like what that's when you bring up like wanting to read a pornographic magazine in a park, for me it's like, but why do you want to... If you're going to a park where presumably our children, whoever, like, why? Why are you doing that?

Yeah. But the point I was making earlier is there is a reasonableness to enforcing the law that is upon the discretion of the officer. It is unreasonable,

in my opinion, that officers do not arrest the people who are engaging in these crimes. Completely unreasonable. It would be unreasonable... It is unreasonable, in my opinion, that officers do not arrest the people who are engaging in these crimes. Completely unreasonable. It would be unreasonable, it is unreasonable, in my opinion. So, if you get pulled over, and it's

an honest mistake, and you weren't speeding that much, the reasonable thing to do is a warning. And cops do that a lot. That's police discretion, and many officers do a good job. I have had some negative encounters with police officers, as most people where one time i was not speeding i got a ticket cop told me to basically screw myself and that got my license suspended that bothers me it bothers me that that kind of thing can exist where a cop can screw your life up through no fault of your

own but we can't get him to arrest people who are exposing children to adult sex shows? Like, that's my... Like, I recognize pencils have erasers, bad cops exist, and these things happen. I'm not... It's water under the bridge. I'm like, okay, you know, these are things that are part of the system.

But why, then, do we struggle to stop this? Because they are focused primarily on immediate public safety. So, like, driving is a big part of it. They don't want a car to hit a human and the human like the kids getting sexualized doesn't have like an immediate thing you notice like there's no immediate change in their physical health when they when it happens so the cop doesn't really have like a thing to stop right away i mean when you think about it and you realize what's happening then you can start to make the argument that we need to do

some preventative measures but they're more interested in just like stopping violence i just think our culture is shattered i think that it's the internet has ripped it to shreds there's no more unified sense of morality and now among cops for the most part they're just like i want to keep my head down and stay out of it so in texas famously you had a drag show with kids and there were sexualized things going on in there and the cops were like i ain't doing anything about this. And it's just like, yo, we could just Google the law and show you it's illegal, and the cop's like, don't look at me, I'm not getting involved. That's insane.

Yeah, because cops are just going to follow orders from whoever is telling them the order, whether it's the chief or go down a different level. So these cops aren't going to go out of their way to actually do any vigilante justice or stand up for what's right. They're just going to literally follow procedure. I'll tell you what will happen. Check out the story from the Post Millennial. Michigan House makes using wrong pronouns a felony.

The bill makes it a felony for someone to make an individual, quote, feel terrorized, frightened or threatened and is punishable by up to five years in prison and $10,000 fine. They write, on Tuesday, Michigan State House passed a bill making it a felony. HB4474 is designed to replace Michigan's Ethnic Intimidation Act to expand categories of protected classes to include identity, gender identity expression, and sexual orientation, and it passed 59 to 50. It is not yet law, but I guarantee you, guarantee, we will see, if this passes, I'm not so sure that it will but maybe i mean it's michigan you got you know i think whitmer still there right you will see people arrested for this and you know why i i have absolute confidence in saying that because jordan peterson warned us

how many was it seven or eight years ago and then in canada we have seen several instances where people have been criminally charged for using wrong pronouns. I imagine this violates some sort of first amendment issue. Like, you can't tell me what I can and can't say to you. That's my right to say whatever I want. There might be, you know, I'm not saying that the person's not going to throw a punch if I anger them and then they'll go to jail or whatever. But that's like the essence of this nation. The Supreme Court ruled on 303 Creative, this Christian web designer who said,

under Colorado's anti-discrimination laws, I feel as though I would be compelled to make wedding websites for same-sex couples if they approach me about it, and I don't think that's fair. And one of the things that came up in the decision today was uh the justices wrote colorado under the interpretation of the law colorado currently has they would compel this woman into speech that she doesn't agree with and so it's kind of similar to what you're saying i wonder if in some way there is already legal precedent that you know this is michigan so they can't necessarily take colorado law but if we have federal law that says you can't compel speech like at what point do you prioritize the first amendment maybe they would what they're saying with this is that if you it's like an it's i'm pretty sure the bill is specifically about in the in the act of committing

a crime if you do this thing it's a it's a it's um what do they call it like a hate crime thing it's a hate crime thing but it's um it's uh i forgot what it's called in law when they add on to the crime because of a thing you did i forgot what i'm i can't think right now yeah yeah like a secondary offense i think is what they call it like you can't get pulled over enhancement or something once you get pulled over yeah i mean it's bad it's a bad precedent but i think it was nuance bro who was talking he's like mean, it's bad. It's a bad precedent. But I think it was Nuance Bro who was talking. He was like,

it's kind of comparable to the lynching bill. It's like, well, lynching's already illegal. It's already illegal to harass people. It's already illegal to do these things in this bill.

To make someone feel terrorized. That's not up to me. The way you feel is the way you choose to feel. I'm not, my words are not making you feel anything. I'm making noise and then you are interpreting that and making yourself feel a certain way.

We will see someone arrested for this. Yeah, me. I'm probably gonna get arrested for this. I'm gonna yell at Governor Whitmer and call her a boy and go to jail. Can't go to Michigan anymore. No, they'll say that you are, it's like wing terror and all that stuff. Can you get arrested for it or is it just an additional say that you were white-winged terrorist and all that stuff.

Can you get arrested for it or is it just an additional charge that you would get or it makes the charge more severe if you're also

misgendering them? I think this in and of itself is a hate crime to make someone feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened.

By misgendering them. Well, in any way. Literally, I don't think it specifies. To make someone feel afraid, is that what it says? Intimidate means willful course of conduct involving repeated or continuing harassment of another individual them well in any way it literally i don't think it specifies to make someone feel afraid as i

would intimidate means willful course of conduct involving repeated or continuing harassment of another individual that would cause a reasonable individual to feel terrorized frightened or threatened and that actually causes the victim to feel terrorized frightened or threatened intimidate does not include constitutionally protected activity or conduct that serves a legitimate purpose well constitutional protected activity is calling a man a woman. That's right. But apparently not. No, it is. You would think.

So that will be up for the courts, but we are marching in that direction. So look, Jordan Peterson, this was his big thing. Was it Bill C-16

or whatever it was back in the day? He was like, what's the next thing? He's like, people go to jail for this. They all mocked him and they said, you lying they were like dr peterson the penalty is a fine and then he goes and what happens if you don't pay the fine and everyone's like oh you go

to jail and he's like oh so what did i say that was wrong and then sure enough we've seen it there was like one guy who wouldn't call his daughter male pronouns so they arrested him or something like that what did that canada oh let me see if let me see if i find we had a member uh one night that was afraid to say anything bad about trudeau because he was a canadian and he's like i can't like you guys can make the jokes but i won't make any jokes here on your after show danny polishuk doesn't even make that money trudeau jokes and he's 2021 father's like 2021 father arrested for discussing child's gender transition in defiance of court order i mean you know i would a teenager was born female and he was uh kept referring to her with the look at this look at

the new york post wrote referring to his teen daughter uh referring to him with the pronouns she and her born female okay. Okay, New York Post. He was found in contempt of court and arrested Tuesday for calling the teen his daughter and publicly referring to him with the pronouns she and her. The teenager was born as a female. And that's in Canada? Yep.

That's already happening here though. In California, they want it to be child abuse if you don't affirm your child's received gender. Everybody got really mad at Target for the Tuck-friendly bathing suit They want it to be child abuse if you don't affirm your child's received gender. Exactly. I'm telling you, it is coming. Everybody got really mad at Target for the Tuck-friendly bathing suit, but then when you really looked at it, their marketing of VP was giving $2.1 million to Glisten, which actually is a corporation that helps kids transition behind their parents' back. So they really are.

They're not secretive about what they're not supportive of. No, it's out in the open. They've been partnered with organizations like that for like over a decade, though. Target is one of the headline sponsors for New York City's Youth Pride and was one of the founding sponsors of New York City Youth Pride. So it wasn't just, I'm just surprised it took this long for people to realize how far their tentacles were reaching. I think the narrative around pride in these organizations shifted over time. Like over the last decade, it went from being like, you're going to come out to your parents and they're not going to accept you and you need a chosen family who will embrace you and love you to being like, you're going to tell your parents that you want to undergo medical intervention surgery to alter your sexual characteristics. And they're going to say no. And that's terrible. And you're going to have to look for people to support you.

Like the conversation has dramatically shifted as uh our our leftist progressive counterparts have embraced gender ideology it's the bolsheviks they took the ownership of children imagine a court ordering you to not refer to your own daughter as a as your daughter and he got arrested for it this is back in in 2021, March, I think it was. And so, yeah, like in California, they're passing that bill that says you have to affirm your kids, otherwise it's child abuse.

They'll take your kids from you. No compelled speech laws. I don't like that. I mean, affirming the kid isn't necessarily a speech thing. Because if they start making you, compelling you to say something, then they can make you say things about your leader.

And no, that's not. I mean, this is, like I said before, this is a specific thing the Supreme Court just ruled on yesterday, that we shouldn't be, that state laws shouldn't compel you to do something that violates your, the way you would otherwise speak.

But again, they're dancing the line. They're sort of saying like, well, we're not saying that you can't say something. We're just saying that we'll punish you if you don't say this other thing. Well, I think the dad was really disappointed because if you notice in this particular situation, this was a female to male transition

giving them no advantage in sports. Now, if this was the other way around where it was a male transitioning to a female, maybe she would have been a great athlete like Leahah thomas and then he would have been more proud of her maybe it's on the dad maybe it's on the dad that's what i'm saying i think it's the dad's fault the father was trying to find medical solutions that didn't involve drugs and they were they were like nope drugs yeah wow well that's the thing tim they literally this has happened with the chloe cole they'll tell the children's parents that the child is going to kill themselves

if they do not get this gender reaffirming surgery. When in actuality, desistance rates are between like 65 and 98%. So your best opportunity, the best course of action seemingly for the child, this is what Europe found, is nothing. Yeah. Non-intervention yeah non-intervention non-intervention and when they say stuff like if you don't do this your kid will take their own life or harm themselves it's actually the inverse if if the suicidality uh ideation and action is

higher among the transgender population but children are 60 to 90 likely to desist with no intervention then intervention actually increases the rate of of suicidality yes we don't want to get medical misinformation but ssri's actually increase your uh suicidal idolization well i'll keep it simply make sure you find a good doctor you trust yes all of this stuff because we're just people on the internet okay i'm not a doctor do not listen to anything from me medically yeah so i So I'm speaking not as a medical doctor who can talk about mental health. I'm speaking my opinion based on the studies showing distance rates are this high. So what I should say is if those studies are true, logic would dictate the best course of action is X.

Not a doctor, though. You are, to confirm what you're saying, Alex, antidepressants and suicide risk from the National Institute of Health, 2005 systematic review, controlled trials, compared SSRIs with other active treatments or placebos found almost twofold increase in the odds of fatal and nonfatal suicide acts among those exposed to SSRIs. Yeah, National Institute of Health. Wow. That was the first thing that came up when I typed SSRI suicide. It's no joke. And I'm not a doctor at all, but I'm telling you, not once during the pandemic did they ever tell anybody

to go get some exercise and eat better. I mean, that's like, I think that's where it comes down to a lot of our mental health problems too is the crap that we eat and that we don't exercise. And just because I'm sure

a lot of people are like, what's an SSRI? It's a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. There you go. Now you know what SSRI stands for. The more you know. Serotonin selective reuptake inhibitor.

You've been working out a lot. How do you feel? I feel better. I think that's like, you know, for me, I've had challenging stuff. I lost my mom not that long ago, and I remember exercising and stuff because I was very depressed about that. That's the only thing that made me feel better. So I think if it helped me with that, it would help everybody else.

And I know it's not a placebo. It's not just going to fix problems with people that exercise that are depressed. But I'm just saying there are natural remedies, I believe, instead of just taking a magic pill. I've been doing a mile on the bike, on the assault bike, and it's like it lowers my blood pressure. Like I was just working my lower body, a little bit of the upper body, but afterwards for like six hours, I just have lower blood pressure. It's fantastic for my mind. I don't think a human body is designed for a sedentary lifestyle and that's unfortunately you know one of the the nice things about having you know non-manual labor jobs is

that you could get to be in the air conditioning and you know whatever else on the other hand now you are putting your body at a permanent state of rest which is not good for it so unless you actively try to find ways to be active you are more likely to harm your body essentially i think that's why a lot of people are just more mentally ill in general because our entire society and lifestyle is antithetical to the human condition both mentally and physically yeah well you mentioned birth control and that's one of the things that i find super interesting because you probably tell us too there's this study that says uh if you start birth control before the age of 20, you're 130 percent more likely to develop depression and commit suicide. And all women. This is like one of the largest studies ever done on this was 260,000 women is published by Cambridge Press University Press.

They found that women any of any age are 90 percent more likely to develop symptoms of depression if they take birth control and to me one of the interesting things about this and maybe you can talk about the two but uh my anecdotal experience is all know girls who it's not to sleep around i know that's the thing conservative men always bring up and it's not an unreasonable thing to question about society but they're told oh you have bad really painful cramps it's disruptive to your education to your job get a birth control, your skin, anything. They'll use it as this treat all pill. But really, those are symptoms that your hormones are out of whack. So instead of treating the hormone imbalance through diet, through food, through exercise, they just say cover that and progress, prolong the problem.

And then we don't talk about the consequences. 2020 was the 60th anniversary of when the FDA signed off on birth control as a form of contraceptive or the pill. And yet we're still just now acknowledging that women become extremely depressed because of it. Like, that seems crazy to me. You put your body's hormones on pause for years on end and expect there to be no consequences? No, and that's the issue is that there's not informed consent for women for so many things that are given to them, especially birth control. These young girls, I was put on it at 14 for acne, for something minuscule. And I wasn't told, hey, you might get

really depressed. Hey, you might become suicidal. And none of these women are told this. They're expected to read. It's like the terms of of service nobody reads what's in the damn box and so they but female unhappiness nobody's talking about this relative their subjective well-being our subjective well-being as women has fallen both absolutely and relatively to that of men despite there being so much progress and there's actually a really funny study that talks about this the paradox of declining female happiness, female unhappiness, because they talk about it. They're like, wow, we're making so much progress, but women are more unhappy than ever. Because we're severing women from their biological nature, from femininity and pumping them full of hormones and telling them the only way you're happy is if you're like a man and you don't have children. And then you get depressed.

They're like and have some SSRIs, which we now agree. Then they're on a pharmaceutical cocktail. Oh, the birth control. They don't even ask you. If I'm on birth control and I go to my doctor and I say I'm depressed, they do not even ask you most of the time or mention that it might be the birth control. They just pop you on an SSRI or they pop you on something else. And now you're on a pharmaceutical cocktail and it gets even worse. Well, I look at a doctor a lot like a mechanic basically where they don't actually want to

fix the problem. They just want to cut off the check engine light so you can't see what the problem is and that's basically why they just medicate you instead of actually trying to fix the problem, fix the engine, actually do the hard work. They just want to give you this placebo cure-all. Yeah, but are you talking about bad doctors? Yeah, but most doctors are because they'll just give you an SSsri you just walk in and say i'm depressed you know they don't even ask you 10 questions about why you're depressed maybe you're going to bad doctors yeah but this is like no no it's like this is the

problem with doctors though tim is that you know this they go to college they come out with huge debts any doctor that spoke out against this pandemic protocol you know got fired so they are they are emboldened to listen to whatever they're... Sure, sure, sure. My point is this. There's no house MD. There's no doctor that's like, you know what?

I'm going to try this unorthodox approach because if they did, if they try to prescribe ivermectin... There are. No, there's people... So during COVID, famously Joe Rogan found a doctor who gave him a prescription he wanted.

There's an exception to that rule. He probably paid cash for him. And that's... He probably paid cash. Sure. Good doctors are not accessible to most people. I just... there's an exception to that rule my point is this cash for him and that's that he probably paid cash sure good doctors are not accessible to most people i i just this argument is like man i hired a plumber and he broke my toilet and i'm like so find a better plumber like if if most plumbers you find are bad you just gotta get a good one i'll tell you because good doctors are inaccessible for most people because if they accept insurance what happens is they turn into

patient mills where they're just getting in and out. Have you ever been in a doctor's office? See, the plumber is not a good thing because you're not arguing my point though. The plumber analogy is not good because basically the same company that sells the plumber the pipes is telling the plumber to keep messing up the house so they can sell the plumber more pipes to replace the house.

I don't understand this argument where it's like my life should be easy and I shouldn't have to do any work to find people who can work with me. Because the majority of doctors have to have one train of thought so so it's their whole livelihoods on it they'll get fired they can't even speak out against it so you say oh fine there's one good doctor there's only one peter mccullough good doctor but there's not that many i'm telling you like how did we find like doctor like okay look my point 99 of doctors are going to say the covid vaccine is great i I don't even think it's just that. My point is, and I don't know about 99%, but the overall majority,

it's just, it's not an answer to say, because most people in this field are bad, we're screwed. It's just, it's your responsibility to make sure the people you are working with are doing right by you it is not my or anyone else's response if you go to a bad insert any trade that is your fault i think that's multi-faceted though because most people don't know that their doctor may not be giving them the best advice and i don't think it's i think a lot of doctors are becoming dishonest and they're doing brand deals but i also think because they're they're focusing on volume and getting people in and out i think a doctor should be sitting with you for an hour or two really diving into but they don't do that this this i i just i

feel like it's not really arguing what i'm saying so many people said i went to my doctor and they gave me bad information i checked online and found a different doctor but most people don't know like what is it what is your argument do no research no no people don't know it's bad. What is your argument? Do no research? No, no, no. Do research, but can you install a transmission in your car? My brother can. I'm saying,

can you install a transmission in your car? No, but I trust my brother. I know, but I'm saying, so you go to an expert. So what if every mechanic you went to was lying to you, Tim? So here's what I do. I go online.

I look up basic transmission stuff and and you're gonna learn how to install a transmission if what let me ask you a question when you go to a car dealer do you take his word for it a lot of times yeah that's a that's a mistake well what this how it works because I actually have my dealer's license how it works is in Texas if you buy a car through a licensed dealer you have to give them basically like a post-sale inspection you have to give them make sure that it passes inspection and if not you have to tell them it's as is. So in that sense, it is good because,

listen, I don't like the government getting involved in business, but at least when I sold a person a car, they knew it was either as is with no warranty or the car is perfectly fine. If the argument is Big Pharma is corrupt and many doctors just accept whatever they say and Big Pharma sponsors universities,

there's no question. But I do not accept the the argument that a person it's it's not a person's fault for not taking the responsibility to do research on who they're hiring to treat their bodies yeah but i wouldn't know how to treat cancer i wouldn't know how to i mean there's a lot but let me tell you if you went to a doctor and they prescribed like splashing bleach in your face you'd be like hey wait wait a minute well wait a minute there's a lot of doctors who say oh here get this chemo and then but you're not you're not arguing any like you're not arguing what i'm saying i don't understand well i guess what i'm saying i don't

trust the doctor you say oh you can just find these great unicorn doctors i don't think that i think the whole entire industry has been infected that's clearly not true though rfk jr was saying it's the fda there are tons of people who got prescribed a bunch of different treatments during covid there there are there There are people posting on Twitter how their doctor is doing these treatments. Yes, but there was a coalition of doctors doing it. But even that coalition couldn't, the government could still stop CVS from prescribing ivermectin. So it doesn't even matter. Even if the doctor has his best intentions.

Oh, well, I do have this medication. I'm going to prescribe it. Then you go to your CVS. Oh, I'm sorry. We're not going to fill out your prescription, Mr. Poole, because this isn't authorized for that. So even the doctor can be superseded by the government. No one is arguing that there's no corruption. The argument is you can't come to me and be like, I hired a plumber and he broke my toilet.

It's their fault. I'll be like, dude, why didn't you do any research before? Like, I don't know what the argument is. Doctors take an oath to make sure that they have their patients best interests and i don't think doctors follow that oath i i think i'm viewing it from an individualist and you're using it from a collectivist it's more fair to think of it as a fireman than a plumber because the fireman it's life and death they come they have to put the fire out the right way if they go in there and they create some sort of arson or do something faulty you're gonna know immediately and it's the same way with doctors i mean plumbers obviously it's just not life and

death um how about this look at your cat mr bocus oh they want to euthanize it they just want to do doctors in canada right now are literally prescribing people medically assisted suicide because they can't afford the chairlift and we also found a guy who said give us 10 grand we'll give him we'll give him stem cells. And the stem cells didn't work. Did he? I think they're working. I don't know if they could grow his heart or anything.

It's not working. I mean. So who do we? That's accessible for most people. Yes. And so who do we trust? The guy who said, pay me a lot of money and I'll save your cat. Oops, it didn't work.

Maybe he had the best intentions and he was correct. It just didn't work. Or the doctor says, this treatment's not going to work. I recommend you not do it. Who turned out to be correct to be correct it's just no i don't trust a doctor that says kill your cat and then if you say no he says okay then give it this medicine until it dies i'm like no fuck off dude i'm gonna heal my cat thank you okay i don't disagree but my point is we we pay for the expensive treatment that didn't work i think it worked it's just it's not a super hero treatment was it supposed to work or prolong his life yeah just like regeneration stem cells was We pay for the expensive treatment that didn't work. I think it worked. It's just it's not a superhero treatment.

Was it supposed to work or prolong his life? Yeah, just like regeneration. No, stem cells was supposed to work. But it's experimental. The drugs are supposed to prolong his life. And Tim, did you know the third leading cause of death is doctor malpractice? I don't know if that's true. Google it.

Third cause of death? Yeah, I think it's the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer. Who would admit that? That's like a funny statistic well look it up medical medical error is the third leading cause of death according to ihi.com yeah so so this is a problem and this is what no but let me let me just say this tim and i'm not trying to get emotional because once again i have to bring up my mother dying it was the worst thing in my life but we told the doctors not to give her remdesivir they still gave her remdesivir because they could still bill her insurance without our authority as soon as we signed a dnr they were able to do whatever they want they could care less they know remdesivir

they know for a fact i know i know we can't say something no no no my point is you're telling me that you are like i told the doctor not to do something a doctor could still do it do you understand that the doctor has full control they can just mess up on your heart surgery so sure what i'm saying is so these so it's like so here's my point you're going this doctor is Do you understand that? The doctor has full control. They can just mess up on your heart surgery. Sure. What I'm saying is, so these doctors... So it's like, so here's my point. You're going, this doctor is clearly wrong. Would you do heart surgery on me? No, I wouldn't get that.

I wouldn't have you... If you go to a doctor and the doctor says something and you're like, that doctor's wrong, I should have him do my heart surgery. That makes no sense. No, but I'm just saying, all doctors are basically corrupt. Do you think that, like, there's no Trump-supporting doctors? Of course, but I'm just saying all doctors are basically corrupt. Do you think that like there's no Trump supporting doctors?

Of course. But I think that they're in the I think that's them. They're the major minority. It's that they're centralized. OK, we can only talk about so much stuff because of medical misinformation. There's a lot of stuff I'd like to be talking. I would sound like RFK. But I think if you just look at RFK and you look at correlation and causation and you

could look at a lot of stuff, Tim, you could see some numbers. He's also I think he's wrong about a lot of stuff, Tim, and you can see some numbers. He's also, I think he's wrong about a lot of stuff. And I'm in favor of him debating health tests. I think about childhood vaccines. I mean, we can, like I said, medical misinformation is going to say so much. But I do think it's weird, some of the schedules of vaccines for young children at that young of age. And then you look at the occurrence of autism at a rate that we've never seen i'm not saying that they're totally connected but i mean it's hard to not you know so so do

ourselves a favor investigate that's i mean yeah raise the yellow flag and let's take a look at all this stuff man one of the biggest issues when it comes to any of this stuff is if there are 50 variables in a problem and you're aware of two of them you might think those two things are correlated but you don't know the other variables so uh the trans kids for instance is a good argument conservatives often talk about social contagion and then i immediately say endocrine disruptors like there are other things that are disrupting the hormones of children that could be causing this.

But it's like cancer clusters. They can usually figure out what's causing something if there's a cluster of people getting sick from the same thing. Especially with AI, you can put that data in and very quickly, easily know. We should be able to figure this out. The answer is not that we know for sure,

but that we should take all the data available. Not, it's, it's, I think we should, we should take kids... Not eight mice. Right, we should take, we should have any kid diagnosed with autism, and we should talk about where they live, environmental factors,

density of, like, uraniums or selenium or whatever may be in their water, medications, vaccines, not just any one, but all, load that into an AI, a density of like uraniums or selenium or whatever may be in their water medications vaccines not just any one but all load that into an ai and it'll show us the patterns and then we can assess that move forward my main point with doctors is i do not disagree that most doctors just say this is what we're told to give you my point is that is the reason why it is incumbent upon you to go to a doctor ask questions and then shop around. Well, do you think most doctors would listen to Peter Hotez?

The answer is yes, but to what degree? Because if you go to rural areas and MAGA country, you'll find most doctors there probably would not. But most could be 51%. I actually think you'll find a lot of doctors who you're going to have a higher density of doctors in major urban liberal centers and as Democrats believe what CNN tells them and just march in lockstep.

But I guarantee you if you go to a Trump supporting doctor, he's going to agree with you. Yeah, a Trump supporting one, yeah. And there's many of them. There's a lot of them. So we can put it this simply. If you are distrustful of the medical system find a doctor who politically aligns with you and then do your research politics is enough though because i think there's trump supporting doctors who still will prescribe yeah just because they want to make money girls they're

still going to give out sri you still have responsibility it is not the responsibility of everyone else like yeah but you when you come to me tim you say i have cancer i i need help and i'm a doctor and you're gonna take whatever they give you because you're gonna trust them no when you have doctors are gonna lose their medical license if they don't adhere if your argument is people don't have agency you should do your own research but i'm just saying there's questions that we don't have the answers when a fruitarian Steve Jobs do on a fruitarian diet when he had pancreatic cancer and then died? I don't think that that helped him, but I'm saying you look to experts. You should have listened to his doctors and meditated.

But you look to experts for answers that you don't have. So yes, you can do your own research, to you and says, the sky is green, and you go, I'll take your word for it. That's on you. Well, sometimes the sky is green. When there's a storm coming, especially, it's really cool, and you let go. My point is, you cannot just say, they're the experts, so everyone just does what they say.

That's a problem. But here's one. You should not. Here's an example. I think that's my point is that most people don't know that you shouldn't take a doctor's word as the Bible.

There's nothing you can do about this. That's the biggest issue. So you as individuals should not, like, we should be telling people, and this is my position, shop around

for a doctor you trust. That is the answer. I believe it is counterproductive to be like, no, no, there's no point. What if it's an emergency? You just go in the emergency room, you don't get to pick your doctor. It's an answer. I believe it is counterproductive to be like, no, no, there's no point. What if it's an emergency? You just go in the emergency room. You don't get to pick your doctor.

It's an emergency. You're out of luck. The world is not fair. The world is not perfect. The world is not safe. If you are in New York City... But isn't it a bad system that if you have an emergency, you're going to go to a doctor that's more than likely bad? No one is arguing against that. But you said all doctors are bad. Not all, but I'd say the majority of them are. And the majority could be, what, 51% or 99?

I think that they're giving bad information because they're not, that's why I think it is. I think they're actually probably good inherently, like morally they're probably good, but they're going off bad information. Yes, we need the average person to take responsibility for their health and not just go, oh. That means instead of saying all doctors are bad, it's pointless, we say, no, you just have to work hard, and if you don't, you don't deserve it. If you blindly trust someone to inject you in a 7-Eleven parking lot, you deserve whatever happens.

But if you do research, and to the best of your ability decide what is right for you because the responsibility is incumbent upon you, then, sure, malpractice, I believe, kicks in. What if you can't afford that, doctorpractice, I believe, kicks in. Well, what if you can't afford that, doctor? Yeah, I would, exactly. If you can't afford medical treatment, welcome to real life.

If you can't afford a spear and you're in the woods and a bear attacks you, that's not my problem. Not to be contrarian, even though I am conservative, I actually do believe that our medical industrial complex is totally crooked and that we need to have caps or we should have some sort of socialized healthcare. I know that sounds crazy and that's not a conservative viewpoint, but I think the basic necessity of having insulin, the fact that insulin is $200 in Texas, but it's $2 in Mexico, that's because of corruption. So we have such a corrupt system. I think it is corrupt. And that means you have to personally do the work to find a good doctor.

But I can't change the price of insulin. You can go to Mexico, you can go to Canada. Do you think there needs to be reform in the medical industry? Hold on. This is the main issue right now. You cannot be like, no, all doctors are bad. End of story. Well, the problem is they're coming from a centralized authority.

That's too general. I reject the idea that it's like, nope, even if there is a good doctor, it's too expensive. That's not true. It's just hard. Life is hard. You are not entitled to anything. You do not have the right to walk into a city and be like, I demand the doctor do things perfectly. That's not how reality works.

You can hire a security guard. You can hire a cop. And then that cop runs away from the mass shooting event and gets criminally charged for it. Well, that's not true because a cop and an attorney, they take an oath. An oath? The world is not a rigid mathematical system. It is a system of people and fallibility. A cop can fail at his job and then you sue.

A doctor can fail at his job and then you sue. You as an individual have the responsibility to make sure you are doing everything you require and it's, to me, the point is this. I guarantee you, if you walk into a random clinic and say, Doc, whatever you say is law, you will end up

with problems. But if you read some reviews online, do some research, let me tell you a story. I got prescribed an antibiotic once, and it had joint issues were associated with it. I said, I will not, I looked up online what this was, I won't take it. I skateboard. And they said, okay. And then I said, I read online about this alternative treatment they said okay and they

handed me my prescription if you don't do any of that and bad things happens it's not because doctors are bad it's because you don't take responsibility for your own life but sometimes the the the data they have is wrong and then people are hooked into a system that they don't let's take a heroin addict trying to get a heroin addict to realize that they're in a bad place so you need from the outside be like a white knighting for these people that are stuck like or what about this real quick what about a cancer patient that's dying that can't get access to opioids because we're having such a fentanyl crisis to a patient that actually needs it so this is like a leftist view that we should be able to give everyone everything but no but i'm

talking access i'm not talking about for free if it doesn't exist i'm sorry you can't have it i would like to fly but i don't have a jet pack no but i'm talking about have you noticed now doctors will not prescribe opioids to people that are actually in pain because they do not want to get in trouble because there's such an over i think it's a good thing but what about the cancer patient that is in actual pain that's not going to abuse the pills i don't think you're entitled to any of these i don't i don't understand i don't i don't get it you don't think the cancer patient that is in actual pain that's not going to abuse the pills? I don't think you're entitled to any of these. I don't understand. I don't get it. You don't think the cancer patient should be entitled to pain medication?

No, absolutely not. I do not think anyone is entitled to just be given things. It just makes no sense to me. If it doesn't exist, you can't have it. I'll tell you this. Wouldn't they be entitled to a cure for their cancer? No, because we don't have that. But I'm talking about if somebody's in pain and we have a cheap thing that will fix their pain, I think that they should be able to have access to it.

Instead, doctors are saying, no, we can't because you know what? A few years ago, we over-prescribed OxyContin and then we got in trouble. And so now we can't actually give people with pain pain medicine. I'm sorry. Oopsie poopsie. I'm a doctor. The system is imperfect. Find a a doctor. The system is imperfect. Find a better doctor. This is also wild. I don't know if you guys saw,

the World Health Organization just classified aspartame as a possible carcinogen. And that's another thing we need to talk about. The level of cancer in young people now is at the highest levels it's ever been. So we're talking about autism earlier. You were talking about all these different factors that could happen in the 80s.

The amount of aspartame that pregnant mothers were drinking. Look at me, I'm drinking it right now. I'm getting cancer right now. I'm getting cancer right now. Aspartame. I've been beating the drum about how nasty this stuff is for about a decade. There's so few studies on this thing, aspartame. Well, they kept on declining it when it originally tried to get approved by the FDA. Donald Rumsfeld.

Reagan put Rumsfeld in with this and got it with like a, they wouldn't vote to make it a food because it was like i don't know if they used it as rat poison or something in the 60s and then when reagan got in it was like the day he got into office he he stacked this five-man panel and then they they made it legal i think it's a little bit ridiculous though that they're they're coming out oh aspartame causes cancer first of all we knew that second of all it's i think it's just kind of signaling like look guys don't worry we'll tell you if something's bad for you meanwhile the fda just approved lab-grown meat like give me a break in the same breath that they're approving lab-grown meat they're like oh by the way diet coke might cause cancer took them 40 years to say that i want to ask for tame might be cancerous 40

years what else are they not saying we gotta go to we gotta go to super chats so i'll start by reading two recent ones, and then we'll go back to the thing I normally do. And Jason Hutchison says, Tim just went full Ludwig von Mises. You're all a bunch of socialists, and it's awesome. I stand with Tim on this. However, Doc Holliday says,

Alex is right. Docs are pushers for big pharma, and Ashley is hot AF. So, you know. And then Doc said, Tim failing miserably. This is embarrassing. You are wrong. I am right. are pushes for big pharma and ashley is hot af so you know and then uh doc had said tim failing miserably this is embarrassing you are wrong i am right the fact is it doesn't matter if docs are corrupt you are not entitled to a system that works as you want it to be unless you work to build it if it is truth and reality that most doctors show for big pharma and we all accept

that it is incumbent upon you to find someone you trust to prescribe you medication. And if you simply go, nope, no such thing exists, then you are entitled to nothing. Hey, but Tim, Tim, I can kind of be your argument right now.

Have you ever heard of Nigeria? Yes, I've heard of that. They had the lowest levels of COVID. Yeah, right. How would you compare their medical system to ours? Would you say that theirs is better or worse than ours? I don't know. Well, I would you compare their medical system to ours? Would you say that theirs is better or worse than ours? I don't know.

Well, I would say that it's worse, right? Why would you say that? Well, let's just, because the infrastructure, the schools, I think that... Do you actually know

about their infrastructure? Well, I know that we have more top universities in America than Africa when it comes to medical school. So my point is, but let's get to the point. To answer.

To answer the point, I'm saying a place that had less medical supplies and probably less medical infrastructure did better with the pandemic than the country that had access to everything. A lot of assumptions were just made that I can't answer. Look up Nigeria's COVID rate. So why was Nigeria with less medical infrastructure able to handle? Do you know they have less medical infrastructure? For a fact,

Google, you and I both know this. Look, we can be cute. No, no, no, no, no. You know that the United States has a better... Excuse me. You know for a fact

the United States has a better medical system than Nigeria. Don't just tell me the whole thing was corrupt and doctors are prescribing bad things to people. I don't know what you're saying.

Life expectancy in Nigeria is 52 years? 54 years? Does that include infant mortality? Maybe. Okay. I don't know what you're saying. Life expectancy in Nigeria is 52 years? 54 years? Does that include infant mortality? Maybe. Okay. I don't know anything about Nigeria. I'm looking at Wikipedia.

The point I was going to make was it is reasonable to assume their medical system is much, much worse than ours. Yes. But I just don't know. And they handled the pandemic much better.

So half of the population lives on less than $1.90 a day. So it's like less doctors saying... It's like dude says things about country I don't know anything about. But what I'm saying.90 a day. So it's like less doctors saying... It's like dude says things about country I don't know anything about. But what I'm saying is less medical intervention in that country.

Let's just, let's agree that there was less medical intervention in Nigeria. I don't know that. But assuming that's the case, there might have been... Assuming that's the case. That might not be the reason. Let's just, just for hypotheticals, let's just assume... I never, I never do that. But even if that's true, Alex...

I never, I never say, let's choose a country I know nothing about, did no research on. I have no idea what they're doing in the country. The country with less medical supplies did better during the pandemic than the one with access to every single medical supply and medical expert in the world. Why is that? Probably because they just did less for COVID, not that they had some genius COVID policy.

How much did Nigeria spend? Because they did less. Because they did less and more people live. What was their COVID protocol? Well, the reason why is less and more people live. What was their COVID protocol? Well, the reason why is because there they have parasites. What was their COVID protocol? What was it? I believe it was ivermectin in Nigeria.

They have it. Frequency? I'm not sure. I know the American protocol for COVID. I know exactly what the United States did. Well, in Nigeria, they had to take ivermectin because they have parasites in their water. So they already take it regularly. So I don't know if they had to take a different scheduling of it because they already take it.

So what was their COVID protocol then? I don't know what their— So this is the problem. I don't know how you can use them as an example if you don't even know what they were doing. I don't even need to know. Them doing nothing was still more beneficial. Maybe they did something. Maybe they actually did, though.

Well, I would guess that they did less in America when it came to— Well, a guess is okay, but if we don't know, why is it as an example? This is how I know, because I know that they administered less vaccines. Sure, sure, but... So they did less vaccines and they had less deaths. I cannot even begin to have a conversation if you don't know what they did. I have a general idea, so I have enough of an idea to form an opinion. So your opinion is, I assume they did a thing, but I don't know exactly what they did.

No, my opinion is that their medical system is not as good as america's medical system i think we could all agree on that that nigeria does not have as good a medical system as america i think it's reasonable to assume okay i don't know anything about nigeria we had the worst pandemic in the history in recorded history other since what the whatever uh spanish flu spanish flu in 1920 but other than that in a country in africa had less covid okay dude dude i you what what about so because they had a because they had insert random country it's not random it's not random uganda what i'm saying in uganda and uganda had more i don't know what they did. I don't know the numbers, but I'll just say it. In Africa, they had lower COVID rates than North America.

Yes. My point is, there is no conversation to be had if you're going to say a thing that I have no information on. My point is, less doctors are better. Not necessarily. That's insane. Could it be a better diet? That's what I assume. They have less bad diet.

Here, we have a lot of plastics, like food colorings made from coal tar, aspartame high fructose corn syrup which is like a franken chemical uh in in obesity 60 obesity rates like that's a big part of covid was obesity maybe they didn't have that in africa it could be a lack of reporting you said their medical systems yeah not as superior as the united states you can't be like i don't know what they did. I don't know their reporting system. I don't know their population. I know the number is a big enough discrepancy that it wasn't just because of underreporting. This is the issue.

I'll tell you another issue I take with RFK's stance. He's taken the false stance that ivermectin was not approved because if there was a treatment for COVID, it would ruin the vaccine emergency use authorization, which makes literally no sense at all because monoclonal antibodies got an EUA as well. And if ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine worked,

they could give it an EUA as well. You don't need to hard approve something to allow it to be used off-label for treatment. So this statement- It would not have, the vaccine, it would have affected the approval for the vaccine. Then how come the monoclonal antibodies

didn't affect the approval for vaccines? Maybe because that's in the same class as a vaccine. It's not? Well, I don't know that to be the case. Okay, so monoclonal antibodies

is a therapeutic. It is not a vaccination. The reason why they're able to not do the standard testing, the protocol, that they would normally do is because of the emergency use authorization.

And so everyone keeps saying, so if ivermectin would have been protocol that they would normally do is because of the emergency use authorization. Everyone keeps saying, so if ivermectin would have been effective, they would have not been able to use it with an emergency use. E-U-A. They could have put it under EUA the same as monoclonal. You're talking about putting in ivermectin. Yeah, but they didn't want to do that because it costs two cents and everybody can get it

because they wouldn't have benefited financially from doing that. For a fact. So what I said was the argument from RFK that the reason it was not approved is because that would end the EUA is wrong. And you agree with me, right? Well, it would have if ivermectin would have been given to more people. I don't think ivermectin just is some cure all for COVID. I just want to say that.

OK, this is my point that it could have helped. RFK was wrong when he said that. And so that would have maybe lessened the vaccine's emergency use authorization. The position taken by RFK and many others that ivermectin was not approved because it would have affected the EUA is an incorrect statement because there were treatments approved under EUA outside of vaccines.

If the argument is that it couldn't make money off it, I agree. If it had been approved... I think that's what this all comes down to for Big Pharma is money, though, Tim. I think if ivermectin had been approved not I think that's what this all comes down to for big pharma is money, though, Tim. I think if ivermectin had been approved not for emergency use, but actually just approved as a functioning therapeutic, then maybe it would have disrupted the EUAs for the others. Right. And so long as monoclonal antibodies, which were exorbitantly expensive and unavailable to the average person...

Yeah, ivermectin costs one cent a pill. ...did receive an EUA, then they could have put it under eua so the problem i have with this is it is a false argument and if you want to make the argument it was because of price i i agree they don't want to approve cheap free drugs because big pharma is corrupt and evil yeah so i yeah so so here's my issue that is logically and discernibly true but people get so knee-jerk defensive about any of this. They're like, nope, RFK's right. I'm like, but there's no logic.

It makes no sense. The money thing makes sense. The EUA thing does not. But people get mad at me like, you know, Tim won't admit it. He's wrong about this one. No, I'm right. Well, think how much money they made with just the vaccines that nobody took. Oh, just the mass-produced from the garbage left-in garbage and the idea the idea that we would give no bid no liability contracts to massive multi-net

contracts to massive multinational corporations and mandate medication is psychotic yeah but that's what's ruining the world is that we're not run by human beings i think i said this last time we're being run by multinational corporations that don't have the ability to feel empathy when they can buy and sell these politicians even donald trump i love donald trump but he's inviting the johnson and johnson family on stage i'm saying every politician has a price in these multinational corporations like pepsi trying to put aspartame in our soda or whether it's raytheon trying to sell more tanks in the ukraine they can actually affect the world you and me complaining about it can't do jack i actually i actually think complaining about it we do have a pretty big impact on the world.

Yes, with the boycotts. The boycotts have given me hope. Yeah, but... You've got to believe, man. You've got to believe. But the Pentagon budget, I think they had, what was it? $900 billion was unaccounted for. Oh, it's trillion.

No, no, no. I'm talking about just $900 million was non-accounted for non-military spending for the past year. So almost, I mean, it was $900 billion, excuse me, almost a trillion dollars. Yeah, because a trillion is $1,000 billion. It was $900 billion unaccounted for. They don't even have a paper trail of what that's for. That's been happening. I know, but listen, I'm not a socialist, but we should reallocate those funds and help people instead of just killing people in foreign countries.

Let's read some super chats. Cody Griffin says, Tim, will you have RFK on and grill him about his wish to pass common sense gun restrictions? Would love the debate. Yes, I think we're talking to them. I'm not entirely sure what's going on. The idea is to have RFK on the Culture War podcast, but we will see. And I think it would be a really interesting discussion as it pertains to covid lockdowns vaccinations etc i am i am so in favor of rfk debating hotas i offered 100 000 to a charity of hotas's choosing if you would have that debate and i have said right here i staunchly

disagree with some of what rfk jr has said a lot of it i'm not completely you know apprised to so he's welcome to have his opinions and say things it is insane to me that the one of the leading experts is refusing to have this conversation i am not an expert i have no problem sitting before alex stein and being like no here's what i believe and here's why i believe it why is hotas afraid to do that my personal thought is that he was threatened, maybe not threatened, but asked politely not to do it by some of his compatriots in the medical industry. I don't know why.

Other than that, he likes doing podcasts and movies and stuff, so I'd love it. I feel like he just knows he couldn't keep up. I mean, information aside, I don't think he can present as well. And a debate would open him up for that he could be wrong. So there's no point in him having a debate because then it's like oh well i'm having a debate because maybe you could give me

the answer is the answer is simple he does not believe what he says would you have a adjacent person come on and debate rfk absolutely listen and tim i think what you said is exactly right because once again medical misinformation but peter hotez has an autistic daughter, and he wrote a book saying that vaccines do not cause autism. That is very weird, right? I'm not saying that he's not right in that, but that he, it's like, I don't know. He's trying to run cover for something. It's so sinister that he would write that book if you did have an autistic daughter. Here's why I disagree with the vaccine causes autism crowd.

Okay. What is your basis for that assumption? Well, if you look at the MMR vaccine, if you look at the scheduling of MMR vaccine, and Dale Bigtree did a really good video about this called Vax, and there was a time when Robert De Niro had this playing in the Tribeca Film Festival, and they got it taken out. Do you remember that? I don't know if you remember. Do you want to just tell me the basis for your... Well, of the MMR vaccine.

Well, they even did it with the scheduling of the MMR. If the measles, mumps, rubella, if they actually gave it to them at an older age, they had less of an occurrence of autism. And as a matter of fact, it was the MMR scheduling. Even when they had the stats saying that if they spread it out, there was less autism, they still kept the normal scheduling. And there's a whole documentary about this called Vax. And it affects boys and people of color even more so here's the issue

if you say we've got a generation of kids with higher rates of autism let's look at that and then compare their vaccination well the numbers did and what the big pharma said is correlation does not mean causation that's what they said and they said correlation does not mean and then we have to consider every other variable that exists in human development and the environment. I would agree with Tim there. And Cernovic talks about that a lot. But we do need to look into why. I agree there's other stuff.

Special ed kids, kids with autism. It is rising dramatically. I wonder why Peter Hotez would say it doesn't. Like, you've got to say it. That's fine. That's the thing. He's running cover for it. My point is, I do not like conspiracy theories.

I love them. Because what people do is, there's a big painting before you, and they'll look at one portion of it and say, that proves it. And I'm like, listen, if you want to talk about the transgender youth issue, if you want to talk about autism rates, there are a thousand variables that need to be assessed in this before we can say we know for sure. 5G. You certainly, 5G perhaps, the advent of cellular technology over the 90s, I believe absolutely

has some degree of impact on the human body. And they say, don't worry, it's non-ionizing radiation. So my issue is this. If we know that plastics are causing problems, birth control in the water, see my issue is this if we know that plastics are causing problems birth control in the water seeping into the water causing problems and these are proven we we know that there's pcbs we uh we have an increase in in uh vaccination scheduling all of those things are true i will not come out and be like but this one thing i will say definitively did thing i don't i

don't know we need a and this is impossible to do, but it's not necessarily impossible. We need a long-term study looking at children born in the 80s in a plastic-heavy country and children born in a country with no plastic. Then we need to take a similar data set, kids born in a country with no plastic but high vaccination rates specifically from this brand, and kids born in countries with no plastic and no vaccination. It is very, very difficult to accurately get the information that we need to figure out what's really going on. This is the most effective measure. And I do think no disrespect to Alex here, but I think connecting autism and vaccines is counterproductive to actually figuring out what's going on with our kids, because then just say oh you're just a conspiracy theorist like you said but instead we should demand answers it very well may be that vaccines that is the issue right but until we demand answers and say hey why is this

happening why is there a dramatic increase in kids with autism why do we have a dramatic increase in kids with learning disabilities i think it's plastics i think we will find a demand for that research i think it could be a combination of both but i mean it listen just everybody do not listen to me i do not want to keep on spewing medical facts on here but everybody needs to go watch the documentary vaxxed with del big tree and that i know tim i'm just saying that will have some stats in there that you're going to say even when they question big pharma they say they have to say oh well you're right these numbers are weird and the scheduling is different if we give them this at a lower age they have less autism but they say correlation does not mean causation so i've seen the numbers i mean i've

watched documentaries with the numbers in it whatever but my point is these are real numbers from real agencies and they look us in the face and say oh well i know you're putting two and two together but sorry it equals five not four yeah rather than say that it causes, I think saying it may be contributing to that. Yes, maybe contributing. It does not cause. That's a very good point. Final thought, and we'll read more Super Chats because we've been talking about this. It is really simple.

There exists, as hard as it may be, a trustworthy doctor. They exist. And maybe you're right. It's 99%. That means you've got to make 100 phone calls before you find them. If you really do think you want sound medical advice, you better make 100 phone calls. Tim, I'll be honest. I looked

at 50 different doctors before I got my penis enlargement, and I chose the wrong one. And I'm paying for it every day. I'm sorry about that, man. Too big. Alright, let's read some more. Turkey Robot says thanks for the shout out to him if you liked that symbolism of the authoritarian regime in silence do good you're going to love the rest of the series by the way that president is based off gavin newsom it may end up predicting the future

it's a really cool picture it's clearly you know biden's staying there going ah but the the symbol for the authoritarian regime it's a red line line and a blue line going up and over. That was brilliant. Very, very well done. I like how it was written, man. You guys, that was really good because you took it was almost cliche, but it wasn't. It became a very high powered, fast action movie within like six pages. I really like that.

All right. Paul Tascalo says that DeSantis video was awful. That came across to me as anti-gay, very divisive. Trashing Trump because he isn't being mean enough to gay people. That is the best DeSantis can do. The DeSantis team is horrible. What DeSantis did in that video that I disagree with is he conflated the current issue of the weird grooming of kids with eight years ago, Trump being like, Hey,

if you're gay, it's all right. You know, it did come off a little homophobic. The video that, well, the Santa's one. I don't like,

I don't like that term. I don't know if it means anything. You know what I mean? They call me homophobic, but I'm just saying it did seem a little bit like Trump loves gays. I don't. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. I mean, it's just like the, the issue we have is, I'm not saying it was that bad, but like trump loves gays i don't yeah yeah i mean it's just like the issue we have is i thought it was funny i'm not saying it was that bad but that is the vibe again like yeah it definitely seems like and i put him in jail it was the first first i heard trump say that he would encourage um a trans woman to use a bathroom with other girls so i don't know if how he still feels about that with caitlin jenner what he said that was a big deal when caitlin jenner went and pooped in the Trump Plaza

or whatever but he would let Caitlyn Jenner go to his house so Caitlyn Jenner is probably the one off. Yeah, I think he really doesn't care but once you start to understand what is happening to kids I don't like the way they prop up Caitlyn. Let's read some more. Cain Abel says RFK Jr. is a Democrat and has stated he is willing to work with the parties.

I am voting for Trump 2024. Trump for the scorched earth policy. Fire them all. Agreed. a democrat and has stated he is willing to work with the parties i am voting for trump 2024 trump for the scorched earth policy fire them all agreed dave murdoch art says culture win after being stonewalled by steam for 30 days and banned in china drag the dead will officially release 707 pearl clutching zombie shooter starring zane dimage and uncle hotep oh wow we're taking the space back early access keys available. Timcast want one. You want to try that game? Yeah. Send it to me on Twitter.

Hey, let me get one too. I'm a big gamer, so that sounds fun. There you go, Kellen PDL. Let's grab some more super chats. Neboop says, Megan Kelly, when she grasped it, if you think these MAa people will vote for anyone

but trump you weren't paying attention correct we cut the brakes in the trump train maga ride or die just not into party politics and the desantis people said the same thing they said if it's if it's trump they're not voting so okay then you get newsome i guess i'm gonna let go of the cult worship for this one oh everybody's been talking about Newsom who would be his running mate Michelle Obama I think Michelle would be the president

yes she will be I'm just saying I think he would be her running mate dude it's gonna be Obama remember you joked if I could just sit in my basement

in my sweats and talk on the phone and have a front man you guys laugh and think it's Joe Biden no no it's Michelle and she will be president and it will be Obama

Barack running the country for eight years from his base Barack was just at the White House with Joe Biden for lunch earlier this week, I believe. So there's something going on.

Well, you know what makes me mad? It's like they know each other or something. But they give us the impression like the Bidens and Obamas get along. No way. They hate each other. No, remember Obama said never underestimate Joe's ability to add things up? Well, and they knew that Hunter was smoking crack for forever ago when he was vice president. The FBI found a rental car

with crack cocaine. Well, it's also because he was vlogging all of it. Yeah. All right. Aliad says, Tim, I love you, but you're wrong

about the posting on Twitter. In Twitter, you have to search to get that type of content. It's not promoted like Google. I did not say it was promoted. If you post something on Twitter, it is available to the public.

That would be akin to putting up a big poster in the front window of your home. Yes, people have to go and find it, but it is still readily displayed to the public and you can't do that. It is a crime. Is it what if you have it in like a pile of trash out on your front lawn? There's like a picture, a nude picture, but it's stacked in a big pile of papers and some

kid goes up to it and sifts through the papers and finds it. Yeah, that's different. Cause if you threw it away, I think that's, but, but we can, we can create a million different scenarios and ultimately it's just ask some random guy that happens to be a judge.

That's how it works. That maybe didn't even have the internet when he was a kid. Yup. Because this is how the law works. The law is human beings who make mistakes. It is remarkable to me, especially when you see in movies where someone will be like, did you sign the contract?

I did. You're screwed. Oh, that new show, the Black Mirror episode. Did you see the Black Mirror? Did you watch the new Black Mirror? Did a new season come out? Yeah. Oh, I love Black Mirror.

I haven't seen the new season. I got to watch. The new season is just a series of horror movies. I don't even have Netflix. Yeah, basically. The first episode is a Black Mirror. The rest is just horror movies. So I enjoyed it. It's not Black Mirror, though. It's just horror movies. Oh, it's a new kind of show a Black Mirror. The rest is just horror movies. So I enjoyed it.

It's not Black Mirror though. It's just horror movies. Oh, it's a new kind of show like Black Mirror. No, no. It is Black Mirror. It's called Black Mirror. It's a production company

but it's kind of a different The creator wasn't comfortable doing the dystopian stuff so he's kind of changed gears. But in the first episode there is a I'm not going to spoil the story for you

if you haven't seen it. Thank you. There is a woman and she has her lawyer going over her contract and she goes how can they do this to me? And she goes that's's right here in the contract. He goes, but what? Are you kidding? That's in there too? Yep. Well then I'll do this. Nope. That's in the contract

as well. Well, gee gosh darn it. I guess they got me. That's not how law works. You can be like, good luck enforcing that contract. There are companies that have non-competes in New York. You go before a judge, he'll be like, nah, throw it in the garbage bag. It's done. I've said so. People don't understand that a judge can literally just be like, nope, have a nice day. They don't like being overruled in appeals and things like that,

so they try to be correct. But it's a human being who says, I don't think the law was intending that, so get out. We should get some judges on the show. But you know where that's a real big deal, though, Tim, is where the parent's getting getting divorced and one parent wants to transition their kid behind their back and it's a judge who gets to decide right you know yeah literally so it's you know some judge that has nothing in you know all right we got a good

yeah exactly he's nothing in sean says atf's frame and receiver rule was vacated the atf tried to regulate the sale of 80% receivers, which aren't firearms by law. Firearms Policy Coalition just kept bending the ATF over a barrel. Does that mean that guy, what was this? There were people who got arrested over that, weren't there? Are they going to get their charges dropped now? You could buy kits where it was legally not a gun,

and then you could get the parts to make and build your own gun and they start going after people for it. So interesting. It's really two A's winning across the board. Let's grab some more super chats. Another other man says from what I know a lot of women get put on the pill to help with

endometriosis. Luckily my sister said no. What is that? Endometriosis is my sister said no what is that what is endometriosis it's a pain rather painful condition um but and it helps some women it's which if it i believe scar tissue developing yeah so it makes it makes your time of the month very painful it can cause infertility yes that so and that that's helpful for some women and if that's the trade-off they want yeah i think you have to weigh the cost. The problem with birth control is that women aren't effectively,

aren't really informed about the cost of birth control. So if you have extreme pain because of endometriosis, maybe this is the best course of action. But if you have bad cramping because you're not getting enough of a vitamin and they never test your vitamin levels, then probably birth control is not worth the risk. It helps with cysts, too, birth control. But, you know, they should know.

But it also is linked to an increased risk of cervical cancer and breast cancer. We have to weigh the risks. Yes. And it can't just be like, oh, you might gain weight, because I think that's the biggest risk that doctors warn women about, which is not enough. Endometriosis is a condition where the tissue similar to the lining of the uterus grows outside of the uterus.

So that's what it is. Oh, and that's another side effect of SSRIs is sometimes you overeat weight gain, so that's not good if you're depressed to get fatter. Alright, TK Graham says, while I'm for minimizing kids watching porn, jail for posting porn on Twitter is a bit much. Why not

just ban the account? My response to this is, I find it remarkable that our society has eroded to the point where that is the assessment. That, well, it's only people, you know, posting pictures of lewd and lascivious activities in public that kids can find, but maybe we should just ask them to stop. It's like, okay,

if that's your position, fine, but understand 20 years ago, you'd get arrested if you did something like that. What if it's a kid that posts it? You get arrested. Throw him in juvie or throw him in a full penitentiary? Dude, if you commit a crime, you get... If you don't like the law, then change the law.

Don't just be like, we've decided not to enforce it. Only here, though. That makes no sense. Ian, the interpretation of the law is not an argument. You're like, okay, I know it's the law, but what if this happened? What if this happened? What if this happened? Oh, yeah, because we're kind of talking about the morality of the law.

And the internet, it's so new, so we need new laws. So I'll give you an example. Enforce them. The law says that you can't take pictures of children and, you know, loot pictures of children and share them. So they've begun arresting teenagers for posting on Snapchat. Yeah, even if a kid, if someone under 18 sends a picture of themselves to someone, they're distributing child porn.

The law does not say not of you. There's no exception for it. So they've arrested kids for this stuff. And then judges need to, and they have said, okay, no, the purpose of a judge is to be like, the law is not intending to destroy the lives of children because they're doing dumb things on the Internet. They'll get a slap on the wrist. Don't post this stuff again.

But it's very, very different from what we're trying to stop. Well, in states like Massachusetts, they're trying to just totally make it okay for peer-to-peers to send nudes to engage in sexual intercourse. Of any age? Not any age. Tim, you'll like this. I think it's like 12 or 13. Yeah. So there's this girl, Michelle Evans. I think it's like 12 or 13. Yeah. So there's this girl, Michelle Evans.

I'll just tell the story real quick. She's actually being charged in Travis County because she was at the protest at the Capitol in Texas. And she just took a picture of a trans person in the bathroom. They weren't peeing. They were at the sink. And because it is legal to take a picture of a person in the bathroom, even though she didn't take it, she transferred it and transmitted it she's being charged wow wait is that the photo where there was no it's just it's just a trans person in the capital in the capital the texas state capital and they're just using the sink and because it was a picture in a bathroom even though it wasn't pornographic it's uh she's

being charged well michael tb says tim you're wrong on the doctor thing there are many dirty doctors out there if you're not rich or you're in insurance plan you don't have the choice and then Jason Hutchison says Tim is arguing ownership of self of mind and termination and everyone else is going re someone should do the work for me because I want them to you know who's doctor I'd go to

Prince Phillips or George Soros' doctor or Bill Gates maybe not Bill Gates but Prince Philip he lived to what? Like 109? Or whatever, 101? Wow. Good doctor. Yeah, that's whose doctor I want.

But he's probably a lizard, so it doesn't matter. I like talking to doctors about meditation. I can't stand defeatism. And if there's only one in a thousand doctors who are good, it is your responsibility to call the thousand doctors so you find them ain't nobody gonna do it for you prince philip was 100 almost 99 so pretty good yeah man i agree when people are scared and they are going to doctor and they feel like they have to make a split second decision because their body's health is

on the line that's when i worry the most that bad information can really screw someone. So you've got to just stay calm. There's no rush. Yeah, because listen, there are doctors that can help you out. I'm not saying every single doctor wants you dead. I don't believe that at all. I'm just saying, generally, these doctors don't have...

They don't have... They're not legally allowed to actually basically doctor with their mind. They have to follow certain protocols. And if they don't, they lose their livelihood. So that's why I don't trust them. There were doctors

in the past that would prescribe drinking mercury. I know, and once they used to prescribe cocaine, I'm trying to find one now. I wish I had a time machine.

They used to take morphine and cocaine. I just say this, you know, I remember the story where some kid had a genetic disease and there was a cure for it

and it cost a million bucks. So the family sued the state being like, you have to give it to us because it exists. And the state was like, we don't have the money to do something like this. So my answer is, you are not entitled to any doctor. You're not entitled to a good doctor. You're not entitled to good medical care. You're entitled to what good doctor you're not entitled to good medical care you're entitled to what you work hard to find and if that means every doctor is really bad but one is one degree

better it is your responsibility to find the doctor who's better than the one in canada you're entitled to it you're literally not though what about entitled to fire department the government saying you can go in and get a service does not mean you'll get good service yeah i know you're gonna get terrible service but and so you have get good service. Yeah, I know you're going to get terrible service, but... And so you have no guarantee towards good health care. Like, if you broke your arm, you know, you wouldn't... Like, this is the problem. There's people that are afraid to call an ambulance, and they'll call an Uber to go to the emergency room.

Well, I don't disagree with you. Right. My point is, you're not actually entitled to anything. I get what you're saying, yeah. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.

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So maybe it would be wise to just go full hog. That's why we do both. Yeah. We also have K kellen am i right yeah the uncensored ones are fun but i feel like we're not that spicy in general you know maybe we are maybe we are i'm not anyway you follow me at kellen pdl this one was a fun one he only said that because i was looking at him all right everybody thanks for hanging out it's been a blast uh we'll be back with clips throughout the weekend and then we'll be back monday we're gonna

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