Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #811 Cocaine Found In White House, Biden LAUGHS It Off w/Matt Braynard
Episode Date: July 6, 2023Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Matt Braynard to discuss cocaine being found at the white house, Peaky Blinders condemning Ron DeSantis for using their character in his campaign video, & Bud Light firing... over 600 employees. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We are back from the 4th of July holiday.
And, you know, I made a mistake on Friday.
I said we were going to be back on Monday,
and then immediately was corrected after the show ended,
and I was like, oh, crap.
You know what the thing is?
You will not be able to get guests on July 3rd or 4th
because nobody's going to want to travel right before the 4th,
and nobody wants to do a late-night show on the 4th
when there's fireworks going off and people have gotten out of work
and there's burgers. So I was just like, let's just take the opportunity and celebrate America.
But there's a lot of news. So they found cocaine at the White House in the West Wing,
where the Oval Office is. Joe Biden's laughing about it. And I'm just look,
they're trying to make it seem like it might have been a tourist or something.
You're not getting cocaine in the White House past security if you're just a tourist. So, of course, everybody's suggesting maybe Hunter
Biden. Maybe, maybe. I honestly think it's probably somebody with high enough clearance where they're
not being stopped by security. But we'll talk about this. We'll get into that news. We've got
some news from the past week. Ron DeSantis, when he did that, when the DeSantis campaign posted that
ad about trump
being uh pro lgbt or whatever desantis is actually getting a lot of flack for this and peaky blinders
that's what's called right peaky blinders that's the show they've they've they've come out and
publicly denounced the desantis campaign over this ad that desantis's campaign didn't even make they
just reposted but i think this one's particularly just particularly interesting and then we got a
bunch of other news but one one big story, a couple.
There's a Bud Light bottling plant is shutting down.
Two plants, actually.
645 employees are being laid off because Bud Light sales have tanked so much they can't handle the volume anymore.
So, wow.
And we definitely got to talk about Sound of Freedom.
If you guys haven't seen it, I really do recommend it.
It's an amazing movie.
It's about trafficking. Jim Caviezel. We went and saw it seen it, I really do recommend it. It's an amazing movie. It's about trafficking.
Jim Caviezel,
we went and saw it last night,
so we'll talk about that.
And it's rivaling Indiana Jones.
It was released on a Tuesday,
not for the weekend,
but for Tuesday.
Sound of Freedom is just short
of Indiana Jones' take,
so that's actually quite amazing.
I'm really impressed with that
and really excited.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Matt Brainerd.
Glad to be back.
Thanks for having me, Tim.
Absolutely.
Who are you?
What do you do?
Oh, I'm just a mere community organizer and civil rights organizer fighting for a good fight for the January 6th prisoners, fighting to get election integrity restored in the country and on the side helping out campaigns here and there right on we got philobonti hanging out hello everyone i am philobonti lead singer of
all that remains anti-communist and counter-revolutionary i swear that was not my
cocaine at the white house search ian you don't do hi uh sorry uh hi ian crossland and i do not
do cocaine i have done cocaine in the past i will will admit, but I do not do that stuff anymore.
I imagine you're a mushrooms guy.
Way better.
I think if you do it
in the right dosage,
it's really,
when you talk about drugs,
you want to talk about dosage.
Isn't Nixon that created
this whole drugs thing
and put them all into this
basket of like
forever chemicals?
Crocodile works great
if you microdose it.
That stuff's nuts.
No.
None of that stuff.
Yeah, none of that.
It's really sad to see
like all over West Virginia, they have these like emergency treatment things for the drugs of that it's really it's really sad to see like the the the all over
west virginia they have these like emergency treatment things for the drugs and how it's
really damaged everybody's crocodile and people their flesh no we don't well let's talk let's
talk about hunter biden's problem yeah because other chemicals they call them drugs and they're
nowhere near as dangerous and so let's just move on when i heard this story my mind immediately
went to the disparity of justice
in this country how many people are sitting in prison right now because the exact same amount
of cocaine was found somewhere near them in their car in their home and when it comes to the white
house oh they're just laughing about it they're making jokes there's a video that circulates of
joe biden like if they're found within this much crack prison and it's like the same amount and then it shows hunter with like
rocks we'll get into the news yeah let's let's introduce our man over here to the right yeah
i'm just laughing about that this is pretty funny yeah it's good news now like i said like trump's
trump's where uh trump's white house had coke all over the place you know pretty openly it's
that diet coke though it's not the same thing so all right anyways let's get to it here's the
first story we got it from timcast. Cocaine found in the White House prompts evacuation.
If it's the old executive office building, it's likely staff, tweeted Ari Fleischer.
If it's the mansion, it's likely Hunter.
It's amazing.
The White House was evacuated around 8.45 p.m. on July 3rd after the substance was discovered
by members of the Secret Service Uniformed Division during a routine patrol of the building.
The item was sent for further evaluation and an investigation into the cause and manner
of how it entered the White House is pending, the Secret Service said in a subsequent statement
per NPR.
The agency will review surveillance footage and visitor logs as part of its investigation.
The location of where the cocaine was discovered has become a point of controversy.
And as your reports claimed, the drugs were discovered in the ground floor library of the presidential
residence. The Washington Post quoted a dispatch
from D.C.'s Department of Hazardous
Materials team in which a firefighter stated
we have a yellow bar saying cocaine
hydrochloride.
Yeah, I saw this story over the weekend. It was like hazmat
situation. And
I can't remember who we were talking to, but they're like, oh, that sounds like
something's actually happening. Turns out it was
cocaine. And now they're saying it was in the West Wing. So it's kind of like either way, no matter where it was. Look, the highest probability is Hunter Biden. Hands down. No question. And they've said cocaine. But I'm wondering, could it have been crack or something? from Hannah Clare mentions his crack cocaine addiction. We have an update on the story. Biden laughs off White House cocaine scandal and refuses to answer reporters questions
while press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre suggests drugs found in Westing belong to a visitor.
I'm sure they did. This is the first time someone's claimed to have done drugs in the White
House. I think Willie Nelson and Snoop Dogg claimed they did. I was talking about this earlier
and I was thinking about it and I could be wrong but my view of this whole thing is the founding fathers
probably did a ton of drugs in the white house then there was probably a period from like the
early 1900s to like the 70s where there were no drugs in the white house and then you started
getting probably a lot more drugs in the white house after that i think oh john kennedy i think my i bet he partied hard he would have like well yeah that's true and she was like
she did a ton of drugs you know i i don't know because i actually had a good friend of mine who
worked with me on the trump campaign in 16 she worked very very hard and because of that she
earned a white house job uh under president trump however she tested positive for smoking weed.
And that was yanked.
No way.
Not getting in here.
I don't know what the standards are
for this White House,
but I know historically
that has not been tolerated.
Dude,
if someone came to me
and said,
Bill Clinton did not do drugs
in the White House,
I would bust out laughing.
I'm sorry.
A little different, I guess, out laughing. I'm sorry.
A little different, I guess, back then.
I imagine as the president, yeah,
but to your point,
if you're going to be in the Oval Office and stuff like that,
even if you're some kind of clerk
or something like that,
you have to have some kind of clearance.
And if you have any kind of drug history
or if you lie on the polygraph test then you can't get a clearance
so it makes sense that there would be you know issues with like your average person if you're
someone higher up like if you're a chief of staff or if you're the president or if you're you know
someone like that i imagine you could probably get the Secret Service to overlook or ignore or something like that.
But if it's just your average, like one of the lower tier people that actually has to work for the president or in the office,
I imagine they're getting tested, you know, because they have to have the clearance.
It's got to be somebody who doesn't have to go through security.
Yeah.
Or someone that has enough clout where if they go through security, security can't be like, yo, you know, weird.
Yeah. Because not only would the Secret Service overlook it, they might also cover it up.
It'll be like, hey, terrorism, everyone, look out. We got to mask up. This could be dangerous.
Like, uh, really? It's cocaine.
Nobody who has to go through security is bringing cocaine into the White House. I just...
And what level of staff member has to go through security
and would be like,
I've got clout and I have to go to security
and they're going to find out I have this,
but they can't do anything about it.
No way.
I bet there's a lot more than we realize.
No way.
It's just that they're addicted and they're like,
I'm not doing another day without it kind of mentality.
How does surveillance not catch it?
But how does surveillance not catch it but how does surveillance not catch
it because you know they the discord leaker of all those secrets they found him real fast but
for some reason they can't immediately figure out who dropped it in a certain room like there's
parts of the white house that are not monitored where the story is is this is where tourists are
allowed so there are parts of the white house where a tourist can go and is not monitored does
anyone really buy that yeah no way i bet i think they they know i'm pretty confident they know exactly
who's that belongs to good luck figuring out and and and i'm gonna say this
they have surveillance all over that building the idea that they don't do not is insane we
know they do we have they have men on the roof when you roof. When you go and visit the White House, you can see
there's guys up there. They're watching you. And they're
armed. And they've got sniper rifles. Yes, they do.
So, if you're going to try and
tell me they don't have
surveillance in that building, that is
untrue. So I'm going to say this.
That suggests they
know who did it, are covering
it up, therefore, it was Hunter
Biden. I mean to say this,
let's clarify. I'm not saying I really
believe it was Hunter. I don't know.
I'm just saying
until they actually come out and say
whose it was, I am just going to say
it was Hunter because, you know,
Occam's razor.
You got a crack addict, drug addict
guy with access to the White House
to the degree he will not be stopped by security.
They know who he is, the president's son, as probably his.
You know, whether it's Hunter Biden or somebody else, what we do know for a fact is there's two tiers of justice.
Just like Hunter Biden got treated very gently with his prosecution for his crimes that other people are suffering badly for, losing their families in jail for.
Possession of cocaine in a place like that anybody else even in your house in your car you park your car next to the white house and they find that in you in your car you are you're in a world of pain
but the white house one of the protected people two-tier justice we're just gonna laugh it off
yep jack posobic said he thought there's actually a three-tier justice system there. This is a little bit of an aside, but that there's the protected class.
There's the plebs, the regular people like everyone else, you know.
And then there's the persecuted class, which is like a unique class like Julian Assange or at the moment Donald Trump.
Or Jay Sixers.
Exactly.
I guess so, yeah.
Where it's like it doesn't really matter what you've done.
They want to, it's personal kind of class of people.
There's the persecuted, the protected, and then the we don't care the we don't care people can get scooped up and pushed around sometimes and sometimes they get ignored there might be
someone who committed a crime and they're like oh i don't know about this whatever then you have the
protected the political elites and their cronies and their followers and worshipers and then you
of course have the persecuted the people like jay like people like the woman in Alaska's home was raided because she looked like a woman who went
in the Capitol building. That's crazy. You know, I actually went to the DC Gulag. I was allowed in
to visit a prisoner. And just the fact, just going in was completely dehumanized. If you ever want to
come in, I can get you in too. But I went there to meet a guy named William Cressman. This is a
great example of what Jack was talking about. this guy has not been charged with any violence he's a
military veteran he's not been charged with conspiracy or organizing anything he's just a
guy who showed up he was arrested in january 2021 he still doesn't have a trial date wow and they
have denied him his psychiatric medicine they have have trashed, he's tried to keep journals,
and they just come through and throw all his papers away.
He's not been given, he has two daughters that he had not seen
for those two years plus, two young daughters.
And he was finally going to get to see them the week after I was in to visit him.
And that is just, whatever the wildest thing in the world they wanted to accuse him of
that they might even charge him with.
He would have already had time served.
But they're keeping him in there in dire conditions.
Still not a trial date.
Military veteran not charged with any violence because they can.
Because not of what he did, but because of what he believed.
And that's a great example of what Jack Posobiec is talking about.
Is this the indefinite detention because of the clause and like what the ndaa i think no it's worse this is unjustified
constitutional violations speedy trial man it's right it's right there so i mean where are we at
is someone going to file a lawsuit or something to get some movement on this you know he's been
doing his best his lawyer's been doing his best but they just keep blowing like i said not even a
trial date not even bail he has he's a record. He's a military veteran. He fought
for this country overseas. And the only thing that I've been, look, I've been doing a lot of
things on this field. The last thing we have decided is that the only person who's really
going to be able to make an effect on this is the next president. So we've launched a project
called the J6 question. We're paying $1,000
to anybody who will ask one of our presidential candidates what they're going to do for the J6
prisoners. And I'm very happy to say that today we actually cut our first check for $1,000. We
announced the project two weeks ago. Somebody asked Asia Hutchinson, got it on video. We've
been presenting it. So the only person who can really fix this is the next president. So we're
going to get them on the record now so voters can be informed going to the ballot box in terms of how these people
are going to handle what i believe is the greatest civil rights violation of our day
how many people are in prison right now from january 6th oh we've got 141 in fact there
were 42 people just arrested last month and the doj has plans for another thousand to be arrested
there are a lot of them that are still in jail without a trial date, without any opportunity for bail, and they're
just hanging out there. How many people have been let go or have been released? Quite a few, quite
a few hundred. The thing is, and this is the most disgusting part of it to me, is that the Department
of Justice's attitude is that you might be able to beat the charges, but you can't beat the ride, and you can't afford it.
So a lot of people are just taking a plea agreement to just get out of it,
even though they're not guilty.
And in fact, I really have to admire William Cressman,
because he was offered a plea agreement.
He had to do two things.
He had to agree to the two lesser charges, and he had to condemn President Trump.
Wow.
And say that President Trump was the one that made him do it.
And he said, that's just not true.
And I'm not going to admit to something that isn't true.
So he has put himself through this like a martyr.
And I cannot wait for the day that he gets out
and that he can tell his story publicly.
Because that was the ask.
You have to condemn President Trump
and you have to plead to these other charges.
I'm not guilty of any of it.
Dude, that's that like that Chinese version.
I don't want to blame the Chinese,
but that weird like communism. Yeah. What's that that tactic where they make you they come in and make
you say things that you know aren't true to break you and then they're like re-education kind of
mentality that's that's i've never heard of that in the united states before this is the first time
maybe maybe they did to the japanese internment prisoners in during world war two what they want
to do is they're using these people as pawns in hopes that they turn on President Trump. Because if they say, oh, I did it because
President Trump told me, that makes it easier for them, the prosecution, to go after President
Trump and say, hey, we got all these people telling them that you did this because-
Haven't people already done that, though?
Yes.
There are a handful of people who are like, oh, it was Trump's fault.
But remember, that's under severe duress, right? Because they're getting a deal because of it.
A lot of people think that Trump hasn't done enough to help those people what could he do i don't know what do
you get that vibe what do you think he could do i don't know what he's done behind the scenes but
what i do know is the only person who can really do anything is the next president and that's the
only body the only person who's got any ability to move this and uh look my take on it is that
they should be given blanket pardons, especially because the vast
majority of these people have not been charged with violence.
You think it's the next president? So like for two years
these people are just screwed? Like Biden?
Do you think there's any hope?
A little less than two years, like a year and a half.
Is that what you told the guy when you went in?
What was the guy's name again?
William Cressman. And look,
we have a J6 database
at Look Ahead America. Lookah at america.org slash J6.
We have the most comprehensive database of everybody that's been charged.
And it tells you whether they're arrested or anything like that.
So if you want to help William Cressman, you can look him up there and send his attorney some money on his give, send, go.
But we have done – the good thing is the public's now on our side because a plurality of people agree that these people are, in fact, political prisoners.
But the Biden administration does not care.
And the FBI who are persecuting these people in the DOJ, they do not care because there's no accountability.
There's nothing you can do to stop them other than make an informed decision about the next president.
The fear, look, you know, people people love it when I say the magic words, Civil War.
But let's think about where we're at.
At the very least, it may be a bleeding Kansas type phase.
You know, before, and maybe I'm wrong.
In the 1820s, there was talk of Civil War over the issue of slavery, economics, and the things around this.
And it wasn't until 40 some
odd years later that the war actually broke out but we're at a point where federal law enforcement
has i don't think detained is even the right word renditioned people without charge or trial
that's it the the constitution is swiss cheese the idea that the the doj can take people and hold them now more than two years
later often in solitary which is torture without charge or trial i come on it's insane you know
iran only held up held our hostages for 444 days these people have been in over for 800 still
waiting on a trial date my guess is that the administration feels like if they're all let out and pardoned that Trump, that they think Trump will actually create a revolution.
And they think that those people will be the foot soldiers.
Well, and that's like such a dumb.
I think it's just intimidating other people. that are still in prison for the J6 riot and stuff is just because they want the rest of America to be like,
well, they're not going to observe or respect your rights.
They're going to hold you in violation of the Fifth Amendment,
your right to a speedy trial and stuff.
They're just going to run roughshod over the constitution.
If the,
if the federal government feels it's acceptable to kill a U S citizen because
they have a suspicion that they're,
you know,
a terrorist or because they don't like some of the things that they were
saying,
then I don't think that it's,
it's ridiculous to think that the government wants to use its power to intimidate other Americans.
Yeah, I fully agree with that, man.
They don't want anyone to riot.
They don't want anyone to even protest at the White House.
I don't think they want anyone near it.
I don't know about anyone.
They just don't want the right to.
Because if it was the left, they would let it.
If it was Antifa, I mean, there's history. There is a past history demonstrably that they will not arrest people on the left in the same manner and with the same vigor and with the same malice that they arrest people on the right.
There were people rioting all over Washington, D.C.
Was it the 29th of May of 2000 or whatever?
Or 2020? What was the, when they? Was it May 29th, I think? I think the 29th of uh may of 2000 or whatever or 2020 what was the when they uh was it may 29th
i think 29th whatever but the people i i i talk about this a lot the reason why blackstone's
formulation was so important the reason why we have the right to a speedy trial innocent until
proven guilty it's the founding fathers believed that if people could be held criminally in prison or jail, even if they were innocent, there would be no incentive to be a good citizen if at any point you could be arrested.
This is why it's better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
Because if people believe, if I'm truly a good person, the system will protect me me now we can see the inversion of that yeah that's
why this is they don't care but here's the important point if people start to believe
and unfortunately it's true that no matter what you do the biden administration the cult these
evil depraved people are going to use the weight of force against you there is no incentive to negotiate
this point is this is the behavior that like any other domino collapse leads to governmental
collapse you can see it in all these other countries what happens in syria you get protesters
the the the the assad uh regime whatever you want to it, says we are going to stop these people.
Creating a backlash.
Occupy Wall Street.
Best example.
About a thousand, two thousand people are marching down the street.
Anthony Bologna, the cop, walks up to three random women who were not a part of the march
and pepper sprays them because they were yelling.
The video goes viral.
The fastest viral video in history at that point.
1.2 million views
in less than a day in like 12 hours, igniting Occupy Wall Street across the country.
When law enforcement uses heavy-handed tactics, it is a spark on kindling. And what scares me
about what we're seeing with the Biden administration and the J6ers is that it's
sending a message to people not to be scared of them, but that they are illegitimate.
They will not follow the rule of law.
They will not give you a fair trial.
Therefore, there is no system by which you are involved.
It is no different than a group of muggers beating you mercilessly in the street.
There's no rhyme or reason other than they want to assert power over you.
This is one more domino falling over towards a potential civil war in this country yeah you know this is
why i use the word dumb when i talk about these tactics of like they're afraid these people will
become trump's foot soldiers if they're all let out and pardoned the back the problem is you're
creating the problem that you're afraid of by incarcerating them against their without a trial
or without even a charge because it's radicalizing them in prison and when they come out their
families will remember and their friends will remember and you're radicalizing an entire population and an entire
50 years worth of people by by violating their constitutional rights you need to trust the
populace i maybe live being in the government is not a realm of trust you know you're afraid and
you're always on the defensive perhaps i don't well it's part of why i don't run history shows
that there's a silver lining to this
because how many of the great leaders
who've done wonderful things for their country
at some point in their early life
were political prisoners,
like Mandela or Martin Luther King
or in India, Veer Savakar.
That's a pattern throughout history
of great positive revolutionary leaders
at some point crossed a civil disobedience line
or crossed the administration and ended up in prison. And that you can see that in countries
all over the world. I don't think we're quite at civil war yet. And I'm going to, because here's,
here's the real, here's the problem as I see it as a community organizer, somebody that does
voter registration and voter turnout in the Georgia Senate runoff, in the urban counties, the
progressive urban counties, turnout was in the mid 80s. In the rural counties, where I think
at least as many voters are, turnout was in the mid 50s. And there you have the outcome of the
election. If turnout in those rural counties was anywhere close to the urban areas, those people would have a louder voice.
But unfortunately, they do not turn out. They're not part of the ballot harvesting machine.
They're not part of the voting culture. And that's where I'm putting my effort to try to change.
I wouldn't do too well in a civil war. I've got terrible vision.
But in terms of community organizing and in elections, I think it's there if we just have to seize it. And you know,
our constituency is disaffected patriotic Americans of rural and blue-collar backgrounds. And the best example of somebody like this from history is Dorothy from Wizard of Oz.
From a poor background, probably her family didn't own that farm. They were at the whims
of much more powerful forces in the economy and in the government. And she was just blown off with a tornado to some foreign land where she had absolutely no control and no power.
But what she realized by the end is that she had the power all along in her ruby slippers,
and she just needed to tap them together and say, home sweet home.
If we can just get our people in the same way to recognize if they cast those ballots,
an informed ballot, and get engaged with the process,
they can solve their problems. How do you feel about voting machines? I'm very concerned about
proprietary voting machines where we can't see the code, so we don't know if they're flipping
vote tallies in the background. How do you foresee a solution to at least create transparency so that
we know for sure that it's giving us accurate vote tallies? So I have documented cases where the voting machines made a mistake. And there was a county
where this happened. It was caught and it was fixed. But what I think is the solution long term
is to insist on open source voting equipment. You know, hand count, that's technically open source.
And even if you don't believe, because, you know, all these Democrats and leftists were saying before 2020,
that, oh, I see these machines changing votes right in front of my eyes. Kamala Harris said
that herself. There's a documentary on HBO, now they're all denying it. But even if you don't
believe that, there's a lot of good reasons to switch to open source voting equipment,
which is that it's a hell of a lot cheaper.'s like half the cost and when you get proprietary equipment you're locked into that company maintaining it fixing
it updating it forever and that gets very expensive it's a monopoly whereas if it's open
source you can have an in-state tech company and create in-state jobs to maintain it and update it
and i'll tell you it's really more of a republican issue now but there was a democrat in congress who
is a scientist and he actually proposed a law mandating that all voting equipment be open source.
So even in places like California, we're making progress on that front.
And honestly, I have not seen any evidence of machines intentionally changing the outcome of a vote,
and I've seen a lot of evidence to the contrary.
But it's really about restoring trust of the public.
They need to believe it.
They need to have a Matt Brainerd walk in and see, oh yes,
these machines are correct, the code is right, it's doing what it
says it can do, to restore their trust in the voting
system. And I think that's why so many on the left
oppose it, is because they don't want the trust
restored, because they want people discouraged from voting.
Let's
jump into this next story. I do want to come back
to the voting stuff, but I want to work through some of
this campaign news. We have this story from
NBC News. Peaky Blinders
and Cillian Murphy denounce
homophobic video shared
by DeSantis' campaign. The video
uses footage from various films, shows
and media outlets to depict the Florida governor taking
extreme anti-LGBTQ
positions.
And we have this tweet. It says, on behalf of the partners of Peaky
Blinders, Stephen Knight, Cillian Murphy,
Karen Mandibach Productions, Tiger Aspect Productions, and Banna J. Wrights,
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And then we also have this from the hill republican lgbtq group blasts de santis over homophobic campaign video i don't
know if they actually post it but you guys might remember this we talked about it last week i
thought it was cringe i don't know did you see this video man i saw it where it's like trump
with the lg with the pride flag and he's and saying, you know, like we're going to protect our LGBTQ supporter or LGBT supporters.
And then it starts showing all these news clippings of Ron DeSantis, you know, rejecting a lot of the more modern woke stuff.
My take on it was it's absurd to conflate Donald Trump saying the typical or the more traditional live and let live position with the modern woke grooming
position. Like Trump is not supporting grooming. And the stuff that DeSantis is going after now
that we support is stopping the exploitation of children. To conflate those two things to make
it seem like Trump supported grooming today is completely wrong. But it's resulted in a major
backlash where now I'm seeing on Twitter, this has been happening for the past week or so we've
been out. And now even Peaky Blinders coming out and attacking him over it i'm not surprised
the media and hollywood or whatever would come after him but even conservatives are criticizing
him for this you know uh i sort of put on my political consultant hat with this one and this
is just one other case of desantis's staff screwing up his chances. And this is, no, it wasn't Ron
DeSantis that went to the account and retweeted it. Now look, outside groups create edgy, weird
videos to support their candidate all the time. And that's what happened here. Some edgy outside
group created this, but then somebody who has access to the campaign account saw that and they
thought, oh, let's, let's retweet this one because then it made something that was an outside group
that had distance from the campaign. Maybe, maybe a few voters their way, or maybe people asked questions,
oh, how committed is Trump to the anti-groomer agenda? And then they totally stepped in it.
And basically by retweeting, they took ownership of the video. And look, I run in the same circles
of people that work for DeSantis and all the other campaigns. And inside the complaints about his staff
screwing up his campaign have been persistent and growing louder going back months and months.
And here's the problem is that when you're a governor of a state and you win a seat by a
large margin because you're a great governor, which he is, and your opponent is terrible,
everybody in the staff that thinks they're the ones that earned you that 19 point victory and in terms of expanding from a governor's race
to a national race which is from t-ball to to major league baseball you have to expand that
circle of trust and what he's done is he's taken a team that didn't really do a lot to get him
through a governor's race and now oh now we're running a presidential campaign and that he has
to learn to expand his circle of trust
to get people who are not going to allow bonehead mistakes like that to happen.
Because, look, there's a lot of stuff going on
that has been tremendously detrimental to his campaign.
And it just comes down to staff.
It's his staff that screwed up.
His campaign press team have been rolling around in it like crazy.
Picking fights with a women's group in New Hampshire
because they double-scheduled an event in New Hampshire
with the most powerful Republican women's group in the state.
Everyone's saying, oh, we're sorry.
We'll move it to a different date or a different time or something like.
They said, oh, we'll pick a fight with these guys.
What kind of fight?
What'd they do?
A public fight.
Like verbal on Twitter or something?
Yeah, yeah, like that kind of fight,
which it's just,
and there's stuff happening behind the scenes I can't really share, but I'm aware of,
but I'll give you one really good example, okay?
So there's this congressman from Florida,
Greg Stube,
who was not sure who he was going to endorse.
He hadn't endorsed Trump yet,
like most of his colleagues from Florida, right?
And he's up in the air, right?
And he got a phone call.
A member of DeSantis' staff called him to say,
hey, can you hold off endorsing President Trump?
Because we'd like to get your endorsement.
Both of you know the problem with that, right?
A staff member calling a member of Congress to back.
Not the governor, a staff member.
This is a guy, this is interesting, interesting cuz this guy he had an accident he fell off
a ladder in December or something he badly injured itself the first person to
call him in the emergency room Trump yes and I've got so many friends who are
like Mitch they're like mid-tier low-tier influencers they something cool
about President Trump guess what they get a FedEx with the tweet with his
signature on it say keep up the great work.
Like, all candidates have their flaws.
But it's
just really troubling to see these repeated
mistakes. And Trump's team, they're all on top of
some things. They're great at these things.
Trump is the guy I saw. I went to his rallies in
2015 and 16. When the rally was over,
he'd walk up to the
front of the stage, the barricades, and
he would just hang out and shake hands and just talk to whoever was there he knows people he gets a rock star calling calling that
guy after getting hurt he's like a person it's like an authentic thing to do desantis has been
plastic the whole time he's surrounded his press people are miserably bad and i want to show you
this real quick uh so put it put a pin in that thought, Phil.
Predict it now has Ron at 24 cents.
He was actually rivaling Trump.
And at some point, if he was above Trump, now he's gone.
It's just gone.
Matt, do you think that, because as far as I can tell, the strategy that DeSantis has is to attack Trump from the right.
Do you think that that's a winning strategy?
I'm not sure that that is his strategy. I think it's been different things at different times,
which is part of the problem. Look, it was going to be an uphill battle to begin with.
And I think that was a little bit unexpected was that the indictments would actually,
and first I could see this, I'm sure everyone at this table could bit unexpected was that the indictments would actually, and for,
I could see this,
I'm sure everyone at this table could see this,
but the indictments were actually very helpful to consolidating the base to
Trump.
And they did something else is they sucked all the oxygen out of the air for
all the other candidates.
Right.
Plus with the fact that you've got all these other candidates coming in,
if it was a monomy mono,
it might be a different story.
Cause I think what DeSantis is value proposition is that I'm just as
conservative,
not more conservative, but I can actually deliver on what i say because i'll point out to
you know things that trump couldn't quite get done do you feel like trump's because i feel like
trump's strength wasn't in that he was particularly conservative his strength was that he would
take the fight to the left so trump didn't have to be like you know he was he was friendly to lgbt uh issues and
stuff like that um and he didn't really come from the conservative especially the religious
conservative i mean everybody remembers the whole you know the bible's my favorite book of the bible
you know that that exchange so i don't feel like he was ever particularly far to the right.
Did you feel like he was?
I think that there are issues
where he was to the right of the party.
On immigration, he was by far
the most right-wing candidate in 2016
because right before he went down that elevator,
escalator, he had read Ann Coulter's book on immigration
and that fired him up
and that really put him on the map.
But I think what he has over the other candidates is that he's a known quality a lot of people think he was uh that the election 2020 was rigged or I can say it now I guess some
people a lot of people think it was stolen or rigged and uh you could always say that but
you just couldn't play Trump saying oh yeah yeah but um, he is authentic and he's got a level of authenticity that is like when you
read his tweets, when he was on Twitter and now his tweets are still on Twitter because
they'll just take truth and repost it on Twitter.
You read that and you know, he wrote it and you, nobody, nobody got in his way.
It wasn't focus group or anything like that.
Whereas some of these other candidates, they, I think they just struggle a little bit with the authenticity.
It's kind of crazy watching
DeSantis is crashing and burning.
And it really is his press team
because he has done great work.
This video, I pulled it up.
Here's the video from DeSantis' war room.
To wrap up Pride Month,
let's hear from the politician
who did more than any other Republican to celebrate it.
And they insult Trump for what actually was good. I know a lot of people are not happy with the pride flag and the
current woke stuff. But we've had this conversation for years. Nine million Obama voters switched to
the Republican Party. And one of the big issues was Donald Trump was very much like these are
our Americans. We're going to support them.
This battle is over.
There is a big difference between being like,
hey, we have no issue with you if you're gay.
And there are people grooming children
and putting these weird books in schools.
DeSantis is fighting against those weird books.
He's fighting against the grooming stuff.
Really, really great work.
Donald Trump was not in support of those things back then.
They're completely different issues.
They're conflating them.
DeSantis goes from, you know, on paper,
you have this amazing track record in Florida
to a press team that is making him look ridiculous.
I mean, this video, I said it was cringe.
People were like, I really like it.
Here, let me play a little bit of it for you guys.
I will do everything in my power
to protect our LGBTQ citizens.
If Caitlyn Jenner were to walk into Trump Tower and want to use the bathroom, you would be fine with her using any bathroom she chooses.
That is correct.
In the future, can transgender women compete in this universe?
Yes.
Make America's ladies.
Psych! this universe yes make america's lady okay it's basically showing american psycho and
peeky blinders and showing ad headlines like ronda santa signs draconian anti-trans bathroom
and it this is really just not doing him any favors like you
were mentioning attacking him from the right what is the purpose of this video is it like so i'm 37
this video doesn't do it for me i'll tell you because in 1996 there were a lot of people
outside the trump campaign that were creating really cool videos in 19 i do this all the time
my wife's yelling at the tv right now 1996 1996. I was like, what? My golden times.
Good years.
In 2016, they were creating these really cool third-party videos that were like the meme wars, right?
Like the Caterpillar videos.
They were really kind of cool and they had a style.
They're trying to imitate that and capture that.
Whoever created this video, I mean, clearly they've got some editing talent.
It's got this motif of like a sort of a 4chan pole motif and vibe to it and you almost think if you slow it down enough you
might see one of those um the sort of uh white nationalist stars those things floating i can't
remember what it's called the golden sun thing rotating in the back oh the black sun it's black
sun it's like of that and i feel like whoever created it was like we're trying to get to these
guys and maybe they're not the most savvy, right?
But somebody hit the retweet button on that campaign account.
And that is, they don't belong to that job anymore.
Just find out one person who needs to be fired from the campaign.
Were they fired?
From this, we probably wouldn't even know.
And maybe they will be, maybe they won't.
So obviously DeSantis also had the deepfake thing when he posted the fake photos of Trump and Fauci.
And it's still up. It's still up.
It's remarkable that DeSantis. I'm sorry.
Look, man, I love his track record in Florida, but the man is incompetent.
If he cannot fire his people after all of these blunders, the dude is not fit to be president. Yeah, and it's like, it's fine to have, like, if you wanted to actually, if the campaign
wanted to get a video like this out there to undermine Trump among, say, a certain portion
of the right, you have like an outside group just sort of put it up.
Like it was originally, like some weird thing that circulated through the discords and the
telegrams where those people, where those people live and don't touch grass.
But there's, you know know and there's a reason
you know oftentimes you want to have an indirect attack so you have it somebody far away throw it
at him and then your hands are clean right this is on an operational level a failure like why
didn't you psyop which is crazy because you don't want candidates to be psyoping each other but i
mean he didn't psyop he put it on the desantis account it was made by somebody else but then
they took the url
to the video and tweeted it sorry to interrupt you were saying yeah yeah but i mean maybe the
campaign did create it and they want to get it out to but you don't you do these things like i said
i've been in this field since the mid 90s that's why i keep saying 96 this is oh this is old school
political operation you have somebody else attack you have some other source go after them a distant proxy so you keep your hands clean and they just dove face first into the mud with
this one look a lot of people keep defending ron they say things like this is his campaign it's not
him blah blah blah at this point the man has not taken the tweets down or fired these people. Okay, that right there.
We talk about the problems of bureaucracy.
You know what I love about the DeSantis people on Twitter is they lie about what I've said.
And if they're going to play that game where DeSantis posts deepfakes, then they lie about what I'm saying.
They're just trying to trick you into supporting this guy for whatever reason. I don't know.
One person was like, Tim Pool thinks, has said that trump will magically be different this time around i never said that
i said there's like a 55 chance trump actually fires a bunch of these people and that's the
best we can hope for if the probability between uh if the probability is higher that trump will
fire the bureaucrats over to sandus you vote for trump to sandus won't even fire his own bad staff
members and we're supposed to believe he's gonna to end the Department of Education or the IRS or something?
Get out of here with that.
Not going to happen.
In his defense, I would caution you with one thing, and that is that it's a long way to Iowa, to New Hampshire, to South Carolina.
And a lot of these candidates can make their course corrections.
You never know what's going to happen next.
I'm begging him.
I'm begging him.
Fire these people.
I am.
I like his track record in Florida. the next um so i'm begging him the thing is i'm begging him fire these people i am helping him i
like his track record in florida i mean we we had on uh i'm not going to say the names of these
people because they're duplicitous liars but we had a guest on culture war show who tried to play
this game of like name a policy from desantis policy from desantis and no matter what i said
she just kept asking the same question as if i didn't say anything because of course they were
clip farming and they intended to lie the whole time. But DeSantis's policies based in Florida,
how he handled COVID was good. When it comes to the books that they're being removed from
these schools, good. When it comes to saying you can't have kids at these events, good.
These are good things. Clearly, in terms of culture war issues, we care about he is doing
a good job. When it comes to attracting business and new residents,
when it comes to taxes, he's
doing a great job. Don't get me wrong, the Republican
legislature in Florida is probably doing a lot of the heavy lifting,
but we like these things because
they matter to us. Then,
when it comes to his terrible team,
he can't handle it?
I am begging the DeSantis
campaign to fire these people
so that I can come out tomorrow and say,
I'm on Team DeSantis. Not going to happen unless he does.
And the thing is, too, I've been all over the country. I've met with a lot of people who we
need to win over. And a lot of them, they would be more happy to vote for DeSantis than for Trump
at this point in time. For some reason, they just don't get along with Trump. And I think that,
look, I actually met the governor before he started running for president i had a small
chat with him just one-on-one and he was great and i think that he wrote a book recently was
published right and uh the courage to be free i think and i read it i went from beginning to end
and it was a nice book good biography but I don't think enough of him was
in it. Like he talked about his whole baseball career, right? He played baseball in high school
and college, very proud. But I feel like he needed to be more involved. There's something
wrong with the book because it never told me what position he played. So imagine talking about how
proud you are to play baseball, but the book, and maybe I missed it. However, before he ever ran for
Congress, after he got out of the Navy, he actually wrote a book that I am sure he had to have written himself because he didn't have a bunch of people around him helping.
And it was Dreams of Our Founding Fathers.
There were only 100 or so copies published.
I got one of them, made a copy of it myself, and I started reading because I want to know these guys.
The difference between those two books, the one that came out recently that probably had many editors and a lot of help, and the one he had to have written himself, he he self-published 120 copies he would go to gop events and sell it at a card table
that book is brilliant that book is it could be a textbook in a college it is that level of
understanding of our founding fathers of principles of how articulated it is i just i'd love to see
more of the ron sands that wrote that book than new one. But if he is so weak that he has handed off these issues
to lesser skilled individuals,
then he has shown he does not have
what it takes to be president.
He can have great policy all he wants,
but just like Tim said, if you can't get elected,
if you can't win, then it doesn't matter.
Execution is everything.
It's not just about getting elected. It's about about if he's showing us that he has bad people working in his campaign
and he does nothing about it what do you think is going to happen when he's in government he
should be in i mean he is in a position where if he were if you were doing a better job uh you know
um campaigning he should have a significantly
smaller gap between him and Trump.
Trump's got a lot of downside.
Regardless of whether you support
him or not, there's a lot of things people can criticize
Trump for. Trump hired some bad people.
He definitely did. But Trump has
no problem smack-talking the people
that he eventually got rid of.
DeSantis is just doing nothing and saying nothing.
Trump will smack-talk the people that still work for right. You know what would be the real sign to
everybody that he's he's gonna make a course production? He calls you and says
I want to come on your show because when you're in the position he is right now
you need to be here. You need to be talking to this audience. You need to be
engaging and... That's up to the people who watch this show right? You know I'm
just some dude who complains about things on the Internet.
I don't I you know, it's like, you know, we've had people say, like, Tim, you should get Trump on.
You should get this person on. And I'm like, dude, none of these people owe me anything.
If they want to come on the show, I'd love to have him. If I wanted to come on the show, we'd love to have him.
We wanted to have him before. And I think a conversation like this, but it would greatly benefit him.
But here's the point. I think what we're seeing is that he is incapable of a long form, free flowing conversation in this way.
He is too surrounded by bad people who are not allowing him to be an authentic personality like
Trump is. I disagree. I think he's capable of it. If he just undoes the tie and does the black
collar comes in and just sits down and deals because he's I know he has it in him. They just
come in and disagree. What I'm what I's i know he has it in him he's just gonna come in
and do it i don't disagree what i'm what i'm saying is the people who surround him are not
allowing him to do these things yeah we should shoot some hoops come on down ron let's go play
basketball in the skate park for a little while and a couple hours before the show get loose and
then i don't know if the man has time for that that could be the all the time in the world turns
the campaign around and then he does he reaches, he has this type of conversation, which I know he's
capable of, and then his poll numbers go
whoosh.
I believe, whether
it is this show or any other show,
if Ron DeSantis came out and sat down
and had a real conversation where they
addressed the deepfakes, where they
talked about this ad,
his polling would skyrocket,
double digits, overnight.
Overnight.
His predicted would jump way up,
but he's avoiding it,
hoping to make it all go away
like it's 1993
and we're using old school PR tactics of
if you say nothing, it goes away.
Yeah, take a look at Bud Light, dude.
People aren't forgetting these things.
They're taking them seriously.
And you know, President Trump has demonstrated
that you can put people in positions of great power
and then fire them and shit talk them endlessly.
Let's jump to this next story about Bud Light
because this is big.
For the post-millennial,
bottling plants shut down after Bud Light sales tank
amid Dylan Mulvaney partnership.
So the news is 645
jobs lost, employees out
of work after the RDOG
group shut down two
plants according to WRAL.
It was because there was
a decrease in demand, falling
Bud Light sales, and thus
they had no reason to make bottles anymore
because Bud Light doesn't need them.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is winning the culture war, and this is substantive.
But there was always going to be collateral damage.
I feel bad for the people who lost their jobs because of this.
But it's the fault of Bud Light.
Well, it's really tragic, but there's sort of the other side of it.
It's not like America's drinking less beer.
So maybe there are 450 or 500 more jobs created, another plant making the bottles.
But I know the company is still wildly profitable. This is sort of the same trick that Amazon does.
It's not a Budweiser plant. It's a subcontractor. So it's the subcontractor that has to eat all the
dirt and the bad decisions that the contractor made. Yep. And InBev is a, what is it, Belgian
Brazilian company anyway. So I'm not, no anyway so i'm not no offense i'm not
too concerned if they go bankrupt i mean i'm not all gung-ho on america right now but i'd like to
see these people go get a job with an american brewing company like yingling or something
hopefully if yingling sales skyrocket molson cores you know whatever then there will be
bottling demand but it's interesting point you bring up people are still
buying beer so they're still they still need to bottle beer so what's happening these other these
other uh bottling plants are doubling their workload and these people are getting laid off
not really a great situation but i just want to say like this is actually a sign of permanent
economic damage to a brand that decided to get woke.
The damage to the brand probably can't be overstated.
Can't be undone either.
No.
You could also get a job with Ultra Right Beer.
I'm not sure if Conservative Dad's Ultra Right is hiring at the moment, but I'm sure they will be soon.
I just drank like six of those.
I imagine the place that lost the 500 jobs, I imagine that is probably not strategically located near another place where
these people can just transfer over to another brew,
another bottle.
You know,
what's saddest about this is that these people lost their jobs.
Some are probably not going to be able to afford their mortgages.
It's going to cost them their marriages,
costing their children,
costing everything.
Whereas the CEO of Anheuser-Busch,
see,
he's still employed.
He's still having the guy at the top.
He's doubling down.
He's still raking it in.
They're subsidizing a lot of these companies.
That would be Carlos Brito is his name.
He's a Brazilian guy.
They did can the woman that was... Oh, no, not the woman.
Yeah, but do you think...
They're denying it,
but it's been reported that her,
the woman and the guy have been...
Like two people were removed well
you know they got a fat severance package they're not out on the street they're not like these blue
collar people in north carolina well no no official officially here's what i think happened
officially they're not fired they're on leave but uh literally according to sources in the company
they are considered completely severed from the company the reason they're not firing them is because anheuser-busch fears a lawsuit they fear that they'll get sued
some labor dispute so by putting them on an indefinite leave and saying nothing they can
get rid of them they're fired effectively but officially they're not fired but they're also
going to become folk heroes on the left they're going to get a well-paid job with the uh any
number of left-wing groups that are supportive of what they did so they're going to get a well-paid job with any number of left-wing groups that are supportive of what they did. So they're going to land very well. I don't have any doubt. Maybe, but the left
is clearly losing. I mean, remarkably. I mean, this is catastrophic. I think virtue signaling
loses, and it especially loses in business, man. When all you care about is making a profit,
nobody cares what you think. Yeah, but who's bearing the... I get it. And I guess companies are now a lot more cautious
about doing anything woke, right?
But look at what happened here, and look who actually
paid the price. These blue-collar
workers who probably vote
the way we like them to vote,
who are good, loyal Americans, they're the ones out of their
job. The people who are responsible for the decisions,
they're getting golden parachutes, they're gonna get
go work for GLAAD, one of the left-wing
homosexual groups or something. They're gonna do do great they should have quit when this happened
so when the controversy started and you saw sales declining and the stock was tanking you've had
three months to find a different job you mean the bottling factory people i don't know if it's as
easy for them as we might i didn't say it was easy not say it was
easy but i get it you can see the storm coming and i'm sorry i'm not happy these people are losing
their jobs however i am not going to stand in support of people who are propping up what bud
light was doing i don't think they even had any awareness of it they're just they're just shift
workers who probably didn't barely finish high school if anything like that i don't think they had these are pure civil like there are people
who know better if that's true i have less sympathy for them all right the idea that you
okay look what bud light was doing with dylan mulvaney i believe is the banality of evil
the algorithm is propping up this borat-like character that is insulting to most people and you working
at these factories and supporting bud light are effect are one of the individuals holding up that
machine engaging in the banality of evil i don't blame people for not knowing because people try
to do good and we try to inform them but i'm not going to shed a tear if there is an evil organization doing evil things you are
helping them and then like if if you're the henchman for a super villain and you get fired
because the villain's been arrested i'm not gonna be like oh that's really sad he's out of job i'll
be like good less henchmen for the villain i just don't think you can hold somebody with like
a 90 iq who's doing everything they can within the law to raise their family and has no doesn't
have the capability of seeing what you and I can see
because we're in this world.
I just, they're just innocent civilians
that got caught up in this.
I disagree.
They are components of a machine
that is engaging in cultural destruction,
decay, and the banality of evil.
The only reason I don't blame them
as individuals for marching in lockstep
with an evil machine.
But if we're going to stop
the cultural degradation,
they have to lose their jobs but the but the
people who made the decisions are not punished at all and they're just going to go on to the
next company and do it again the the people at the bottom are holding this machine up i do not
believe the goal is to intentionally hurt the regular workers but even if you want to punish
them there's no amount of punishment that's going to make them understand what they need to
understand to fix this then Then we're in agreement.
The only thing you can do is dismantle the machine.
And that means the people at the bottom are going to lose their jobs first.
There's nothing else you can do.
You're not, you're never going to get, even if they fire the CEO, you're talking about cutting off the head of a Hydra.
Two more grow back in its place.
These individual workers, the bottling plants that are producing Bud Light and selling it are generating the profits for an evil machine you could seize the company with the government
and then strip that way operation i mean that's one tactic i mean they're just so easily replaced
if they decide oh we're all going to quit let's move the plant to mexico or something like that
it's the next thing it's the people that's not what happened the demand dropped so much the
plants don't exist anymore which is a good outcome the demand shifted to another brand somewhere else, which may or may not be in the United States.
We're probably not going to agree on this.
I think the enemy is the snakes at the top.
And you just, it's like you can't hold these people, it's not even if you want to hold them accountable.
You just can't because they're not capable of being held accountable.
Look, you are correct.
The problem is the leadership of Anheuser-Busch.
Michael Dukaris, by the way.
They have a standing army in front of them
blocking you from stopping the evil practices.
Well, I think we succeeded in a way
because, look, these guys are going to not make
as much money as they would have otherwise.
Two people who are pretty high profile
kind of lost their jobs
and are going to have a tough time of it.
And we can see the effect
just because all these companies that are so eager to
celebrate Pride Month, you know, regardless of what
you think of it, they kind of toned it down a little.
And some other companies sort of backed off some of the woke stuff.
Yeah, they backed, so
to me, the
profits for the people at the top getting cut
is really all they care about. So if you can hit that,
that's kind of how you adjust the culture.
But that is the collateral damage that will
trickle down and hit the bottom workers.
Well, there's a reason it's called collateral damage.
Right.
So my point is, I want these people to find jobs.
I don't blame them for the actions of the organization, but it is a good thing that these jobs were lost.
Bud light shrinking is good.
That means people lose their jobs. I don't know if it's corporatism or capitalism that protects the CEO and the owners of the company when they can just liquidate their work staff and they don't have to pay any price for destroying their company's profits.
You would say that's why communism, some people might want it because the government can go take the company away and say, you misused it.
You're gone.
That's not even communism.
I mean, there can be consumer protections in a capitalist system.
Where you would go strip the CEO of his job, of his duty, and take the stockholder mean stockholders stock away through due process if a crime is committed only if it's a crime but
since it's not a crime in the capitalist system we've been letting ceos get away with it for years
right how do you what i'm making is communism is not the answer no i know that's why we have
a capitalist system and it's better than communism but how do you protect the workers all right so
you pass laws protecting workers so you can have a capitalism that says specifically, if you intentionally destroy the company to hurt workers, there can be some kind of intervention.
It's not absolute.
There's not either capitalism or communism.
Communism is not the right word for it because it's political.
It's not either capitalism or socialism.
There's varying degrees.
State controlled, yeah, whatever.
So having some protection, I think that some protections are a good thing.
But ultimately my point here is,
what did anyone think was going to happen?
You stop buying Bud Light,
there is less money going to Bud Light.
They will fire many people.
We are not mad at the people who got fired.
It is a good thing Bud Light is shrinking.
That's it.
Yeah, and to your questions,
how do you solve this in a capitalist system? The original union organizer, who is not good thing, but light is shrinking. That's it. Yeah. And to your questions, how do you solve this in a capitalist system? The original
union organizer, who is not a communist, he's an immigrant named Samuel Gompers, had the solution.
And that was for workers to form a union and use their bargaining power to actually acquire the
company. So it's the workers that own the company. So they pull their funds, they buy more and more
stock, board positions to eventually a situation where the founder dies and passes on, and then they sell the company to the
workers.
So when you have a worker-owned company, it provides a lot of protection.
Unfortunately, the union movement in this country went into the direction of politics
and aiding politics and wanting not to take over management, but to fight with management
for purposes of demagoguing and delivering votes to a political party.
So that's kind of where we lost our way.
But there is a solution.
It is fully compatible with capitalism.
But also, it's a globalist company like AB InBev is a Belgian, is it?
Belgian company?
It's Brazilian and Swiss.
I don't remember where it is.
So how do our American union laws function with a multinational corporation?
A union, they're still publicly
traded you give that union that had the plate the people working north carolina or workers co-op
a few board seats you'd see a different outcome they can earn those board seats
so uh i got some news in this related area and i i seek advice from our loyal viewers.
So as many of you know,
we're working on a coffee shop,
and there are some issues related to laws
which are causing it to get delayed massively.
It's an old building,
and so in order to get it up to code and everything,
it's a ridiculous amount of work,
and it's a historical building,
so then there's like,
you got to have a lot of paperwork.
So we're looking at Charlestown, West Virginia, not too far away from Harper's Ferry, and there's like you got to have a lot of paperwork so we're looking at we're looking at charlestown west virginia not too far away from harper's ferry and there's a
building for sale it is very big it's right in this in downtown and we went and checked it out
very excited and uh there was a restaurant there very recently they sold and they moved and i said
how cool would it be to set up one our first or second location depending on which gets done first
of casper coffee here in downtown charlestown we went and met with the uh two agents our agent and their agent checked out
the whole building it is massive so big in fact we might even be able to put a skate shop in the back
with a separate entrance very excited for this there's a stage that's already there very cool
afterwards we went across the street to get breakfast and while i was getting breakfast a little a little diner called Grandma's Diner, there was a newspaper called The Spirit of Jefferson.
In it, I learned that Charlestown passed a Pride Month resolution.
The city council of Charlestown, West Virginia, voted to declare June Pride Month in support of all the blah, blah, blah, long-winded garbage.
And so I said, man, what do you do?
Do you invest in a town that is moving in that direction?
Or do we make it a point to not invest in places like this?
There's a couple arguments.
The first is, if we do invest in this town, we gain influence in this town.
We bring people to this town, employees,
fans, and we start changing the culture for the better. What if that doesn't work and the town keeps moving in this negative direction and they end up doing things that are shocking and offensive
to our customers, to our friends and fans, and we lose that fight and waste all of our money?
The argument against it is maybe the city needs to see economic fallout from making decisions like this so that the people of the town get angry.
So I wonder, I kind of lean towards the best thing to do is actually invest in the town and buy the business and then put up flags and signs saying like no to all of this.
Invite people down and start shaping the culture with our resources
in force, there is the potential of going to the city and saying, so long as you have
this resolution in effect, we will not spend a dime here.
I feel like that one doesn't necessarily work as much.
It may sound good, but it's like if your money was never available to the city in the first
place, they don't care what you think.
If your money becomes available and you say, but I want
to see this thing no longer in
force, you may actually make a difference.
So I'm curious what the people, for those of you that
are listening, what do you think is the best thing to do?
Should we open a shop in Charlestown, West
Virginia, even though just now in June,
only a couple weeks ago, five
to three, the city voted in support
of Pride Month, which is
just so insane. there's a whole month
dedicated to whatever it is they're doing or should we just tell them go to the agents and
tell and say hey let let the people in the city know when you when you tell them you can't sell
the building it's because we don't want to invest in a town like this you know it's funny you bring
this up because i i see your point of view on this is sort of the moral argument of having the
conversation with the city. What do you want to do? What consequence do you want to face?
And I think that the reality is that there's no entity to have that discussion with, and there's
no entity that would react to, say, losing a business or entry. I actually do these campaigns
all over the country constantly for other things, like somebody wants to build a new super center for a big,
like a big box store, right? And the community doesn't want it. So I get in and, you know,
either help them defeat or help them bring it in or something like that. It sounds like all you
really need to do is flip two city council seats. You get a stealth campaign, you find two good
candidates, you fund them and you take it over and you say no more Pride Month. And you know,
that's the exact same way that George Soros took over
all these prosecutors. Get a
stealth campaign, get a smart political consultant,
recruit the candidates, and you flip it
and then you have...
Well, that ain't me. I'm just telling you that's
how you... Maybe it's something you could do. I don't know.
I'm not that kind of guy. I'm not
going to... But it's not even like a
stealth underhanded tactic. It's the way
of the world you find people
that you believe in and you elevate them to positions of power to help lead you and your
legal system who do you think got those five people that voted for pride month on the city
council people who disagree with you the issue i yes more so i think the issue is
the people even though the majority of people oppose all of that stuff,
they do not do anything. They don't vote. They don't get up. They don't speak out.
They complain in private. And it's really, really frustrating. The idea that West Virginia,
the second most Trump supporting state in the country, would allow woke prosecutors, and they
do, in Martinsburg, they had a drag show in public with children and brought
them on stage which is illegal in west virginia unquestionably illegal and no one's doing anything
about it and they all say it's not my problem i don't it's i have no authority sorry i can't do it
the people it's it's surprising a rural county in west virginia voted for woke district woke
prosecutors it sounds like there's a void of organization in this world, and especially in this country,
and particularly in West Virginia, but probably a lot of states, that we need to develop some
sort of organization.
Like, we need to, if it's just like, sorry, little kids on stage with people waving their
junk around out of their face, whatever.
Like, someone needs to go in there and not lay down the law, create order the average person is still like learning about this stuff like most people
don't really have a a deep knowledge about things like queer theory and then you've got but you
but well well you've then you've got like the whole like half of the country feeding a narrative that this isn't about trying to abuse kids.
You've got the whole media establishment trying to convince people that this isn't about trying to indoctrinate kids into a political mindset.
But you don't need to understand anything about queer theory to be like, hey, that child on stage taking his clothes off for money is a very bad thing. Well, look, the reason this has advanced as far as it has is because the left is well-funded and well-organized.
Flipping these back the other way, Martinsville, Martinsville or Martinsburg?
Martinsburg.
Martinsburg, even Charleston, West Virginia.
It wasn't like Charlestown.
Charlestown.
It wasn't an 8-1 vote.
It was a 5-3.
That means, look, if we can just get the right people informed and turn out to vote.
And it's not that hard.
It just takes organization, a little bit of funding, and it's not that hard.
I was talking to the agent, saying, I'm not sure it's a good idea to invest in a town that wants to go the direction of Bud Light.
Clearly, we are seeing a major backlash to what Bud Light, Target, Starbucks,
and these other companies have done
to the tune of tens of billions of dollars.
And I'm supposed to invest my money
and start my business in a town
that's going that same direction?
Well, here's the problem, though.
Eventually, you're going to run out of places
to escape from.
So you have to pick a place to make your stand
and fight.
And this is a place where I think somebody as smart as you could come in and apply the right pressure and become part of that community, I think you could flip it.
And you may just be the person that could do it.
The degree of pressure I would exert is talking about it on this show, having events at our coffee shop with comedians, putting up flags in the window or something.
That may be all it takes to find the additional community organizers
to go out and go hit doors and explain it.
Because most of the voters
who even voted for the five people,
they probably didn't even know
that they voted that way.
Yeah, I mean, second year they've done this though,
apparently.
It's within reach.
It's really within reach.
Yeah, five to three isn't eight to zero.
Not San Francisco.
Yeah, exactly.
Fair enough.
It is disheartening to know that
all right i'm going to invest you know i'm going to you know invest in this community and there's
people in this community that you know obviously are not active or not aware of political things
that that you know affect us or that we care about um but again five to three is not eight to zero so i think that most
of the problem is that conservatives are still mostly unaware you know people that would have
a problem with this kind of stuff are still mostly unaware um that there are things like this going
on and and if you can just wake them you know make them aware of it not it's not even about
waking up it's just like make them aware because i've said before all the people that i talk to
that are left-leaning that are you know your your default democrats when it comes to you know the
lgbtqia plus stuff the the trans issues and stuff like that. Even the most progressive of progressives say things like, look, they is a word that has a meaning and it's useful.
We can't just give it away to people.
It doesn't make sense in English.
So, I mean, you see what what happened with the Young Turks with Anna Kasparian?
Oh, it's the most enjoyable thing on Twitter.
Oh, my God.
Let's talk about what happened. Anna Kasparian? Oh, it's the most enjoyable thing on Twitter right now. Oh my gosh, let's talk about it. What happened?
The left is melting down. So,
Anna Kasparian of the Young Turks
criticized this non-profit
for calling women's
privates bonus holes.
Among others, because she had a problem
with being called a birthing person and
stuff like that. But the latest one is that she
criticized the organization for referring
to female parts as bonus holes.
Yeah.
And what happened?
Many leftist commentators
said she lied,
made it up,
it's propaganda
and not real.
Yeah.
Shockingly insane
and evil.
She was up.
Anna is correct
and I agree with her opinion.
However,
I do find her to be duplicitous
in that we've agreed with her and Cenk on so many things, but they always pretend to oppose us, which is the weirdest thing ever.
If she came in here and sat down, we would be like, you're completely right on all of your points.
One hundred percent.
Yep, that's absolutely correct.
We agree.
We talk about the same thing.
The left comes out, calls her right wing, calls him shills and says no one's referring to it as bonus holes. So she tweets the link to it saying,
here's the organization calling women's parts bonus holes. And they still claim she's lying because there's two big components to what the left commentary does lie about what's actually
happening because they're ideologues who believe there's no truth but power. So they're justified
in their lies to gain power or they're saying whatever they think is in in opposition to the right.
So if anything criticizes them, they're on the other side of it.
If anyone says this book is bad, then the book must be good.
So when Anna comes out and says, don't call me a birthing person or having a bonus hole, they say you're lying.
That never happened.
Or your right wing. They say, you're lying, that never happened, or you're right-wing. I noticed that same thing with Elad's footage of the marching, the people that were marching saying, we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children.
And in the comments, they were like, no, no, that was just a moment at the march where it was out of context.
There was somebody inciting that thing.
Someone got in the way and started that chant.
They weren't really saying that.
And I'm like, I just watched the video five times.
I saw him say it a lot, and there were a lot of people. I don't have any evidence that someone was there inciting that. And I'm like, I just watched the video five times. Like I saw him say it a lot.
And there were a lot of people.
I don't have any evidence that someone was there inciting that.
And it just seemed like lies.
Like it was like a cognitive dissonant thing.
Like I cannot accept this.
I must lie.
I must say it didn't happen.
It's that cycle where first they say, oh, it's not happening.
It's just conspiracy theory.
And they say, oh, it's sort of happening.
It doesn't matter.
And then they say, oh, it's a good thing it's happening.
And that's what NBC eventually wrote.
It's like, oh, this is a time-honored chant among the homosexuals you chanting that they're coming for
your children is a normal thing they always do that forever you should definitely get anna to
come on the the culture war show we've invited them oh on here on irl she'd be so fun no on the
culture war show all of it because because especially with her her making apparently this
is this is something that's been going on for a while.
She's been having disagreements.
She was on Sitch and Adams.
Oh, yeah.
I want to go on their show.
You guys are listening.
They're looking to get in touch with you.
But she came out and she's said that, you know, the Kyle Rittenhouse case, she understands, you know, and she's on Kyle Rittenhouse's side,
which is in opposition to Cenk's position.
She has an issue with being called a birthing person
or a uterus haver or whatever.
So there's a lot of things that are going on on the left
that she's started to have an issue with.
And, you know,
kudos to her because she's taken a hell.
Like every other sane liberal person
who realized what was going on
and became a disaffected liberal.
Yeah. And like I said, kudos to her because she's taken a ton of hell for it. But, you know, kudos to her because she's taking a hell. Like every other sane liberal person who realized what was going on and became a disaffected liberal. Yeah.
And like I said, kudos to her because she's taken a ton of hell for it.
But, you know, the fact that she actually can acknowledge that,
look, this is a lie.
And one of the things she said on such an Adam's stream was that
people were gaslighting her.
And she's like, I know that you're lying to me.
And I can't believe that you're still continuing to gaslight me.
Because it's not about her.
Yeah.
It's about the listeners.
Yeah.
So what a lot of these channels do, which, you know, I'll leave, there's many of them, they just fabricate everything.
They don't care, either because they're ideologically or capitalistically driven.
It's really fascinating.
They're like, oh, I'm on the left, and they buy massive mansions in california complete lies these people it's it's remarkable that you look to these prominent lefties who are
talking about all this you know i believe in helping people in socialism and it's like oh
who have you who have you supported and donated to none i how dare you i i will and then you look
to the quote-unquote right i love this thing about pro-choice, pro-life argument when the pro-choicers lie all the time.
No, that's unfair.
It's not pro-choice.
It is the pro-abortion side and the pro-life side because the pro-choicers are like in the middle and like typically now siding with conservatives on a lot of issues.
I mean, like actual pro-choice where they were like maybe within the first few weeks, but post-viability, no abortion.
The reasonable Democrat position from a while ago. the pro-abortion crowd is just lying about
everything i forgot exactly where i was going but uh that's basically the the gist of it you've got
people who have found themselves silenced and in the middle as the left just says whatever it is
is the opposite of the right and then lies about what's actually happening to win power you take a post-birth abortion how people are claiming that it's not
actually happening but they're i mean that was just oh yeah all the media claiming that no one
ever brought it up when northam literally talked about even resuscitating the baby and then bring
it to another room to decide what to do there's also a phenomenon of liars people that think it's
good to lie and they like they just do it i had a friend growing up and granted we were like 13 or
14 at the time but we would play dungeons and dragons and then he would
we he'd roll and then he'd be like no i got a five i'd be like dude you just rolled a seven
he'd be like no i got i had a five dude i'm like you you it was a seven like that's gaslighting
but then we play with a third guy would come over and he'd be like no it was a five we'd both be
like you're lying to us you just rolled a seven he's like no i rolled a five and how do you get
through to someone like that we don't we just had to we had to cut ways and like ostracize
the reason they can get through or get away with it is because whoever their audience is isn't a
very narrow channel they're not like checking out a lefty on the young turks and i'll watch
them pull and sort of get both sides of the story their audiences are completely locked in with
people just like them and think like them
so you like still have people this day you know yelling about january sixers killing five police
officers that day which yeah no but they believe it because all their news sources repeat that same
lie and they're not exposed to anybody outside of that or when they get like they run to me i say
oh that that's not true uh the only people that died were protesters unarmed protesters like oh
you're lying that's that's not true so we have two different died were protesters, unarmed protesters. Like, oh, you're lying. That's not true.
So we have two different, I guess, realities.
So here's the issue I see with, like, the Young Turks.
I've known them for a very, very long time, like longer than 10 years.
Back when he was a conservative?
Not when he was a conservative.
I remember, and they used to post, I guess, Jimmy Dore said this, I could be wrong,
that they would post photos of, like, upskirt shots or something like like that i don't know if that's true or whatever it's been a while
was that was that what it was that was uh hasan hasan started out doing a lot of stuff like that
hasan used to do that stuff on piker he would do kind of like the upskirt not not exactly i'm not
gonna say he did upskirt stuff but he was like early youtube guy posting like you know edgy
girls edgy stuff early like those code bro code kind of bro code
young turks have some like dark stuff yeah but what i think happened with them is they had a
large audience the cultural shift started to happen in 2015 and they did not want to go against their
own audience because money was more important so they just went along with whatever the current
thing was but eventually you break eventually the left starts advocating for insane things like post-birth abortion,
unrestricted abortion, calling women birthing persons and have a bonus hole havers. And
eventually you're just like, this is insane. The problem I have with the issue I take the
young Turks is that they're still trying to pretend to be a part of whatever
the left is. Yeah, they'll say things like,
well, we are on the left because we believe in universal health care. It's like,
oh, so do I. And I've
talked about that quite a bit on this show. And they'll say, yeah,
well, you know, we're pro-choice. I'm like, that's funny.
So am I. We've had debates. Me and Seamus
discuss this all the time.
They're lying. They're still lying.
Even though Anna is
pushing back against lies on the left,
they still lie and pretend that they're not in agreement with us on a lot of issues.
They still pretend to support things that are completely untrue. Even when Anna says something
that's correct, as soon as someone on the right compliments her or says, here's what you're right
about, she'll come out and say, yeah, well, you know what, but I'm still not on the right and I
disagree with you. It's like, just stop. This whole like desperate need to be on the left is so annoying that's why i'm like
you know i'll try and define it what does it mean to be culture war right wing economically right
wing or socially right wing definitions matter but i'll refer to this as the freedom faction
or the culture war right like i don't care what you call it so long as we understand what we're
talking about anyone that's like i am a fill in the blank i'm a conservative i'm a liberal i am a this even i am an american like you are putting
yourself in a box man and it is a dark hole you cannot see out of that thing but is it a bonus
hole probably i'd be willing to bet that on most issues i'm to the left of hassan piker
hands down i hope he hears this i'd be willing to bet that if we actually had a discussion
on issues i would be to the left of him on a whole bunch of different issues i'm not but he would lie
no no he would lie this is my point like i'll put it this way if uh someone came to him and wanted
to work on some project with him that he would finance do you think he would actually give them
the majority of the revenue generated from the project they worked on i believe the answer would be no i believe he'd be
like no way no absolutely not whereas here we often discuss how if we launch a project the people will
people work on that project will retain the majority of the revenue generated from it
the company like we seek to foster talent and help people grow. I've publicly donated to several
people in several causes. I like I'm not trying to start beef with him or anything like that.
I'm just saying I think these people are just entertainment personalities who will claim to
support a thing like Ethan Klein or whatever. They'll they'll feign being on a political side
for entertainment value. But I guarantee you, if it ever came down to seizing the wealth of Hasan Piker,
he would fight you tooth and nail.
He would take up arms against a communist revolution
in two seconds to stop the seizure
of his multi-million dollar mansion in California.
I don't know about that.
He's bourgeois.
Yeah, he's bourgeois.
I guess, and I agree with you.
I don't like talking about,
I don't want to cause drama,
but Anna's awesome.
She's brilliant.
Remember that guy in California who was cheering on the rioting and post the photo of
the burning building and then as soon as they started marching towards beverly hills he was
like no don't cut me here that's what i'm talking about so i'm not saying i know for sure maybe i'm
wrong about a son i don't watch a ton of his stuff but the fact that even when i've tried
like when i've agreed with him and anna they still act like I'm wrong. It's the weirdest thing ever.
Was it the way you agreed?
No.
It was too tonally angry when you said it.
I made a literal video where I was like, Hasan's totally right and everyone's wrong to criticize him.
Here's why he's right.
He made a video laughing at me.
Oh, where you guys were, video response, picture in picture video response.
Yeah, that was funny.
It was pretty cool.
But, like, he made a video and then I responded to it saying he was correct in his assessment.
Here's why.
And then he made a video saying that I was wrong about a bunch of things
and then laughing at some of the points.
I'm like, I don't understand.
Like, I'm agreeing with you.
It is fake.
It is fake.
It's good for money, dude.
The drama is good for clicks and views and ad revenue,
but we got to get to a point where we get past that.
Just shuffle it off like ballast and get up into orbit.
This is why I think the Culture War Show,
check it out at youtube.com slash timcast,
Friday mornings, 10 a.m.,
is important because it's really hard
for these people to pull this stuff off
when they're live next to other people,
which is why so many of the left
refuse to come on shows live.
They know in their bubble world,
like you were mentioning,
where people, their audience isn't exposed to anything else,
they can say whatever they want.
But when they're sitting here, everyone else can see them for
who they really are. Let's jump to this next story from Deadline because we've got good news,
and I'm really excited to cover this story. Jim Caviezel's anti-child trafficking thriller,
Sound of Freedom, notches $10 million pre-sales before July 4th. And then we have this. Sound
of Freedom and Indiana Jones duke it out on July 4th for the number one spot.
Check this out.
Indiana Jones had $11.698 million over Sound of Freedom's $11.5 million.
Sound of Freedom was only a couple hundred thousand dollars away from being the number one film on the 4th of July.
There's a lot to consider here.
Indiana Jones made $83.7 million over the weekend, so most people who wanted to see the new Indiana Jones saw it over the weekend. People aren't going to watch it twice on the 4th of July.
But still, the fact that an indie film is rivaling a major release only a few days later is tremendous.
Y'all should go see this movie for two reasons.
It's really good.
I think half the theater was crying for the first 45 minutes.
There's some really great story writing in there.
Really awesome stuff I'm not going to spoil.
And the second reason is to help foster
that parallel economy.
Supporting indie films that are outside of Hollywood
so that industry can compete and flourish
and we can push back against this garbage
is extremely important.
I got some questions about Sound of Freedom.
You saw it.
Absolutely.
Is it a documentary?
No.
Okay.
Does it, thriller, talk about, oh, does it talk about the cobalt mines in Africa?
No.
Okay.
It is specifically the story of Timothy Ballard, who was a U.S. law enforcement, homeland security,
and how he quit his job to go and
rescue kids who were being trafficked whoa and it is brutal and jim plays jim caviezel plays
ballard you know you're like like man everybody in the theater was crying like non-stop throughout
the for the first 45 minutes and then again like 10 minutes later there's parts where you get happy
because the heroes are winning you stop crying and then it goes back to what's going on in this world
and you just like fighting back tears you know what a lot of you know say what you will about
him he's a guy with obviously some flaws but mel gibson this is his film this is his isn't it i
don't know he's one of my favorite actors of all time i love him mel come over i know he's working
on a documentary about uh i think it's about ukraine and trafficking and
stuff like this but i don't i don't know i'm kind of worried about wanting to go to going to see
this and then walking out of the theater wanting to go like hunt down pedophiles or something being
like so but charged for that but that's the point of the film and by hunt down the correct answer is
support legitimate organizations that team up with
international law enforcement to bring these people down this is what ballard's organization
does it's it's you want to stop these pedos and these traffickers and you want it you want to get
involved in that you watch this movie and afterwards that's that's exactly what i was
thinking i was like how are we not putting more money into stopping what's going on because these
it is it is it is nightmarish
this it looks like mel gibson is not attached to this film as far as i can tell uh edward
eduardo veras to guey is the producer and we have alejandro monte verde as the director
written by rod bar and alejandro himself monte verde so i don't think mel is attached to this
like what ages do you for the audience who's wondering, which ages do you think would be appropriate to see this?
Oh, if 18 and up.
Really?
I mean, what's the rating on the movie, actually?
According to Jim Caviezel, Mel Gibson did weep when he saw the movie.
Oh, bro.
Like, everyone in the theater was crying.
That's what I was talking about.
Everyone in the theater was crying.
I will say this.
I was on the verge of tears, and, you know, I just fought him back.
Fought him back. But everyone around me is crying.
What was the rating?
I'm looking it up. I don't see what
the movie was rated.
Because
it doesn't show anything explicit,
but it's heavily implied. Like, you know
what's happening. There's a scene where there's a little girl
in a bed and a creepy guy walks in
and then it shows out the window and he closes the blinds like you get it a kid would understand
what was going on but an adult would i don't think you want to bring kids to this movie you know this
and it's such a universally repulsive thing that this movie attacks and go after like even in prison
you know you hear stories the people that get it worst that every the worst criminals in the world
will turn on is the people that get sent to prison for abusing children so it's just it's like a universal thing at least
in our culture is that this is the lowest of the lowest of the low and i think the point of this
film is that it's not really being taken as seriously as it should how do you read it's pg-13
wow how do you redeem the people like that pedophiles how do you redeem pedophile how do
you make them no longer pedophiles yeah you're not allowed to say it's the hardest thing well obviously i'm not talking about like well no
no they they they i i'm i'm fairly certain that uh they found recidivism among child abusers is like
that's the worst part and then it's the people that have been abused as kids grow up and then
they think either it's okay because it happened to them or there's some sort of weird so like
breaking that cycle is what humanity needs to do without because we can't just kill ourselves off and stop it that way.
That's not effective.
You arrest them.
Well, that's one way you can you can slow it down.
I got to tell you, I want to say this.
When I was watching this movie, I started having a whole bunch of thoughts about the moral philosophy of crime and punishment and the appropriate solutions and how you deal with these people because there's a lot of people that have advocated for the death
penalty for uh traffickers especially and for pedophiles you watch this movie and you'll go
i completely understand the moral position the issue is and i'm watching this movie
they i don't want to spoil anything, but let me just tell you.
There's no mustache twirling villain.
There's not a guy who's like, we're taking kids.
It's like the scary thing is the banality of it.
The guy who grabs a little girl and throws her in a cargo box and then gets handed a
envelope of cash and walks away like nothing happened.
The simplicity, the horror of it.
I thought to myself, what is the punishment for destroying humanity in this way?
And I understand why people say that through due process, quite literally, like, well,
I'm not going to play any stupid games and talk bravado like you arrest them and then
they get sentenced to death.
My fear is always the death penalty is that innocent people will get caught up in it.
And if 1% of the people who are charged are innocent, put to death, we have a very, very, very serious problem.
I side with the founding fathers Blackstone's formulation.
But when you see this film, it really makes it difficult and i thought to myself i don't think the founding fathers understood the massive scale of child sex trafficking and slavery that would be happening
when they were like we should be very very concerned or maybe the reality is they truly
understood the depravity of evil in this world and understood the importance of innocent until
proven guilty and you know due process rights but i gotta tell you i don't know what the solution is
but when you see these crimes being perpetrated i i oh man i just gotta tell you i understand why
people advocate for amending the laws to have the death penalty for child exploitation you know one
one place to start would be to get our government to stop perpetuating this because you know that
in afghanistan this is kind of a big part of that culture.
And the United States went to war against a regime that was very bad, but did outlaw this.
And we allied ourselves with one that perpetuated it.
And we had our own soldiers suffering PTSD because their allies would go in the next room and molest a child.
And they were ordered not to do anything about it.
And then they had to come back with that
knowing that they were protecting those people
and perpetuating that government.
And they still have to live with that.
And God knows what the children over there have to go through.
There is a scene.
Man, I really don't want to spoil this movie.
But let me just tell you,
so you can understand without spoiling the film.
This is about an undercover operation.
Oh, man.
What do you think a person in an under...
I shouldn't frame it like this.
He doesn't...
The main character never does anything untoward.
But when you're in law enforcement,
like in the beginning of the movie,
he's doing his job.
He has to review evidence.
And it's just like him crying the whole time.
And I'm just like...
There's a scene in the trailer so there's not a
spoiler where a guy's like i cannot do this job and he like walks off it's like yeah dude who could
i'm surprised there's anybody who could who could stand that but if nobody does that job these evil
people get away with it and may turn other people into evil people. That's the worst part about it
is it affects children when they're young
and then it can twist them early.
Dude, the writing is so good.
I want to spoil the movie so bad
because I want to tell you just how good it was,
but I can't.
I got to wait.
I got to wait.
I had a fantasy about interviewing Charles Manson
before he died
because I thought if we can somehow get through
to the worst of the worst and let them tell their story
and you see why they became that way,
maybe that's like a step towards antidote.
You don't think someone like Manson actually has like,
is sick?
Because I think that there are some people
that have mental illness that are really, really sick
and they need to be taken out of regular society.
Not because I want them to,
or because I think that they deserve to be punished or whatever,
but because they're actually sick.
There are medications that do help.
There are people that, if they don't take their medication,
they do behave in ways that are
unacceptable they harm themselves they'll harm other people so i don't know i don't know that
i agree with like with with the idea that you can figure out what's wrong and just love them back to
health i think it's there's a lot of mental illness that is really, really, really sick people that really need the medications that they're on.
And he's right.
And he's right for an even bigger reason.
You and him being on the edge of tears watching that movie, the reason you're on the edge of tears, the reason it makes you upset and angry is because you have something that is called empathy.
And empathy requires your ability to map somebody else's mind to sort of simulate what they
are feeling, what they're experiencing. Some people do not have the capability to do that.
It usually tracks with like being lower intelligence. That's why you have so many
criminals. They're also not very intelligent. The reason is that they don't have the ability to
think about how another person would feel on the receiving end of their behavior. They don't know
how to do unto others as you'd like to do under yourself they have no idea how to imagine how anybody else would feel they'll
punch you in the face without thinking about it because it never what prevents us in many ways
from doing evil things gosh if somebody did that to me i would be horrified that would be and you
empathize so these people don't have the ability to do that and it's not something you can really
create you know i think there's a simple way to to view a movie like this in order
for humans to survive i'll put it in evolution terms we protect children why is that a mama
grizzly is going to maul you if you get too close to her babies because of the love for her babies
why does that love exist well if we're going to simplify it in science it's because if there is
a species that does not care for its babies, it is less likely
to procreate and survive and eventually will not exist.
So there's a couple of different evolutionary strategies.
Bees just have tons of babies, just tons and tons and tons like bugs.
That's what they do.
Rabbits run really fast, have lots of babies.
They do care about their young.
Mammals tend to.
Cats do.
Animals do.
When humans see children being exploited, abused in these horrifying ways,
the overwhelming majority of humans have a natural anger and sadness response because
we want to protect children. We have to want it is ingrained within us. Dude, you go see this movie.
The reason why I say I give it a 10 out of 10 very few movies matter you go and watch a
popcorn flick you go and watch spider-man you're like that's fun you go and watch any one of these
you know releases that have come out as of recent and it's just like fast and the furious i don't
care about fast and the fury i mean it's funny we we joke about it silly you know vin diesel's
driving a car and the car is going out of space with ludicrous or whatever and we're and it's and
it's and it's meaningless when you watch the sound of freedom you're being told a story about something tremendous and
meaningful that moves you in the real world these stories you hear about exploitation
based on a true story obviously there's writing involved based on a true story but they have real
surveillance in this movie like actual surveillance videos not a part of
the story but they show it in like a certain kind so you understand like these things actually
matter so you're watching a film that is fiction based on a true story overwhelmingly true but
there's like obviously a lot of fiction in it and the feelings you're getting are real emotions
whereas like when i'm rooting for vin diesel to defeat the bad guy like it's not a real
fear i'm not really i don't really care if he wins or not once the movie's over i'm gonna leave Real emotions. Whereas like. When I'm rooting for Vin Diesel. To defeat the bad guy. Like this is not a real.
Fear.
I'm not a really.
I don't really care if he wins or not.
Once the movie's over.
I'm going to leave anyway.
I'm going to leave.
And throw my popcorn in the garbage.
And be like.
Eh.
And I'm going to forget what happened to Vin Diesel.
A day later.
This movie.
You feel something.
About the real world.
That moves you.
And I'm like.
That's why I think this movie is so good.
Not only was it really well produced. Great music.
Great pacing.
Cinematography.
On par with any other Hollywood flick. Which is is impressive for an indie film it's like a story
that makes you feel something real that actually matters that's impressive sounds like it's called
the sound of freedom because freedom is not pleasant it means you're aware of what's going on
the name has is related to the film you'll understand if you watch you know there's a
precedence for what you're saying, this film,
what you hope it to be.
A couple of times I can think of one example was a novel called Uncle Tom's Cabin,
and that led to the freedom of the slaves.
And, you know, whether you agree with this or not,
Brokeback Mountain moved the needle on support for, call it, gay marriage.
And in the same way, perhaps this film will motivate us to take this problem
much more seriously and do something about it. Jim Caviezel says that. He says that hopefully this
film can be akin to Uncle Tom's Cabin and inspire people to do something about the slavery and
trafficking that is currently happening around the world today. There are more slaves in the
world today than ever before, even when slavery was legal 100 yep well it is legal
in africa and the congo and i don't see these tech companies doing much to try to stop that so
if you want to protect the slaves you can do it in real time right now also the border we need to
protect the kids coming across the border i want also so i'll say this like when i heard about this
movie and people were saying like you go you, you should go see it in no way.
Did I think anything about it was a conservative movie or what was a
faith based movie?
I didn't hear anything about that.
I went and saw it and it was good.
And it's like,
it's weird in the press.
Admittedly,
a couple of outlets have praised the film,
even saying,
don't call it a conservative movie.
It's just a movie and it's really good.
And that's it.
There's a couple references to god in a very vague
and nebulous way that doesn't even necessarily invoke religious connotations it's uh it's in
the trailer so i'm not you know spoiling anything it's actually the hashtag god's children are not
for sale that's why they thought it was a conservative movie probably because of that
line but that's not even like a religion like an overtly religious thing it's like destiny there's
there's a line about you know when when when god gives you the calling
and it's like yo you don't have to be christian or religious to to understand concepts of fate
and destiny you know what i mean just because someone says the word like regular like secular
people can understand what it means to have fate so like anyway i'll say this you're not going to
get any religious stuff out of this film you know if you are religious you'll love it anyway and if
you're not there's no deep preaching or anything in it it's just a good it's like uh
i don't know it's like any other law enforcement here's the crazy thing i'm going to be like
i've seen these movies about like fighting the cartels before but like the issue in the story
is not something you actually care about like you watch a movie where it's like we're it's based on
a true story stopping this drug cartel i'm like i don't care about a drug cartel like like i i yeah awesome movie i care that we stop drug trafficking i care
that we stop these bad guys but like the issue of pulling over a truck with a bunch of cocaine in it
does not move me watching a dude save a child and seeing the reaction these these these actors these
kids were really really phenomenal seeing that it's like someone reaches into your soul and starts squeezing and you can feel it.
I guess I gotta say, you see that movie.
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NotYourBuddyGuy says
I am fully convinced leftism
is civilizational
cancer that metastasizes until the host
ceases to exist. Its
values are the seven deadly sins. We're not
the first and won't be the last to face this threat. I would say what we describe as leftism today, more so it's like
wokeism. And I guess what I'm trying to say is, if we're talking about left economic philosophy,
a lot of it is really, really bad, but it's not absolute. It's like yin yang, within good,
there's evil, and in within evil there is good.
I think what we should clarify is there is a cult that is an amalgam of weird leftist ideologies and economics that in many ways contradicts itself.
That is just burning things down.
That's how I see it.
Yes, that is important.
Mao used to denigrate the rightists.
He'd call them those on the right
he actually called them rightists so this term leftist be careful you don't become the enemy
that you seek to quell by becoming the villain that's creating a lesser class it's really about
the twisting of the left-right paradigm that is the problem all right belly flop says I've been
really liberal for trans adults but it's gotten to the point where it's not enough to be an ally as they say you have to pick a gender flag conversion agent smith style me me me
there's a a photo going viral of a woman carrying an asexual pride flag and she says asexual people
deserve rights and representation we've been discriminated against and it's just like no you
haven't you literally not true there's no
persecution for people who are not having sex in fact that was actually uh required of people
you know pre like a long time ago in society they they were they it was socially unacceptable to
have sex you had to not unless you were married so like it's not a thing but there's flags for
everything though they got everybody wants a flag
this is very strange raymond g stanley jr says tim i was gonna wait until it dropped for home
watch but you've convinced me to see sound of freedom at a theater i hope all had a great start
to maga month and a fun independence day holiday usa absolutely yeah same room i'm not your buddy
guy says i thought you were changing logos to US flag.
Yes, we have to do that.
I need to go in and find the,
I have the Twitter profile picture
with the American flag.
Nice.
I think on Facebook,
you can just do it because it saves them.
Yeah.
But on Twitter,
I have to actually pull up the file.
But it is MAGA month.
It is MAGA month.
Yeah, I wonder how that'll work considering we're an organization though i don't know if it will
for your personal account well because like we're all verified through a business account it's a
different kind of verification basically so like i could because of our business account i can add
someone's name and instantly get a blue check so we should be able to just change photos i think you will be fine we will grab some more super chats mind of a madman says i actually got to load some mortars
for my family's fourth celebration it was awesome and i still have all my fingers you guys see that
video of the backfire and the all the fireworks into the car goes off and everyone's running
seen some x-rays oh yeah i have some hand x-rays of like eight of them or ten of them of what can
go wrong that That's wild.
I've seen it in real life.
It's scary.
Spencer Jones says, happy birthday, America.
Met Tim Ballard a few years ago, a real-life superhero.
Go see Sound of Freedom.
Donate to our, oh, you are, that's Underground Railroad.
It's the organization he founded to help save kids.
Yeah, really cool stuff, man.
Absolutely.
All right, let's grab some more super chats.
Uh-oh, we got some criticism for you, Matt.
Kevin Brady says,
Is Matt going to suggest we buckle up again before nothing happens?
Yeah, great.
I mean, Look Ahead has been doing a lot of work.
Just because the media doesn't cover it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
We've obtained multiple convictions for voter frauds.
We've gotten voters who are illegitimate removed from
voter lists all over the country we've introduced and gotten legislation passed all over the country
that's helping secure the election check out lookaheadamerica.org we're putting up new wins
every day right on let's uh let's see what we got with some super chats jr williams in the regular
chat with a blue bean he says tim has never read one of my super
chats or super or ss's i don't know what that ss stands for well i read that one sir i read that
one sir i saw it ss is super sticker super sticker that's what i thought but like you can't read that
you're like when you're like do i just feel like you know here is a picture of a purple puffball
jumping up and down and dancing i wonder if we could show it on the screen.
No.
I don't know how.
Yeah, we don't know how.
We can't do that.
What do we got with the old super jets?
Michael TB says you can't take cocaine or any drugs into the White House as a visitor.
Trust me on this.
I know for sure there are dogs in the visitor entrance.
Yeah.
No, for real.
Like, I had to go through, like, three layers of security when I went there.
This is insane.
Yeah, you need to take a past background check before you go and everything.
Yeah.
It's pretty strenuous.
Christina H. says, hi, guys.
Any chance we will see Tim Ballard on the show soon?
I don't know.
Perhaps.
Perhaps.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Stay tuned.
Arashi Yoshida says, didn't Obama visit the white house in the past week or so
that proves it party time that proves it i saw a video of hunter biden like he looked like he was
tweaking out i think it was at the fourth of july celebration yeah you can see that it was only a
couple seconds oh yeah people are pointing he was like tweaking raybert g stanbert jr says tim i'd
just like to remind you of that working theory you had that hunter is actually the hero of the story trying to take his father down by destroying his reputation at every turn
yep hunter's actually a very sound mind and he's like my father is evil i will be the man who
brings him down and then it's like his business partner devin archer whatever his name is is like
don't do it you'll ruin your name he's like yes but i'll save this country i'll do it he's
undercover he's like don't take the crack.
You'll get addicted to it.
He's like, I have to.
I need to play the role.
It's the only way to save this country from my father.
I actually think Joe Biden probably abused his kids.
Or neglected them.
I think he abused them.
I mean, you look at all the videos of Joe sniffing kids and stuff like like that and the fact that hunter biden allegedly called his dad what do you call
him pedo pete or something like that well there was a journal entry right right oh i know right
ashley from ashley inappropriate stuff we'll just put it in that we will grab some more super chats
rp says ian i remember roger the boring dispatch my gosh. What is that? A friend of mine, YouTuber, 2006 and 2007.
He was an actual truck dispatcher, and we used to make videos and kind of hated each other at first.
And then we became friends, and then I wrote a song about him called Roger, which is out there.
It's on Amazon and all sorts of platforms.
All right.
He says, Tim, hire me just because.
We got a picture that just came in from Verdon Horay.
I saw this, so I'm going to read it now
listening from behind your guest characterizing bottle workers as low intelligent innocent
victims is elitist bigotry of low expectations these people don't need you to hold their hands
i guess this guy's gonna take some of that money he threw at you and use a little bit more of it
to give them jobs and help them pay their mortgages and keep their kids in school etc perhaps yeah i feel bad they lost their jobs but it's like if there's a dude building you
know a tower of evil i'm not going to be like oh what a good guy i'm so it's so unfortunate that
he has no job now that we've stopped the evil from building their tower you know what i mean
my concern is like as citizens of the united states and we've with our tax money have supported
the overseas wars the cia coups and things like that like are we not part of this evil machine and like what if we lose our jobs what does that mean
we're all taxpayers at this table right are we not part of the evil just as much as these
workers in north carolina by being taxpayers there's like a big difference between being a
taxpayer and like working for bud light it's different but i i have a similar feeling
when i think about what i'm supporting sometimes and like it would it be the righteous thing if it
would that were to be stripped away from me as one of just the feeble workers of the system
there's certainly a uh one thing i find very laughable is this idea that people are are uh
insulated from being a part of any one of these machines. Like, yeah, we
pay taxes to the United States, which does a whole bunch of
really awful and evil things, and the reality is
if we wanted to, we could go and live
in the wilderness. And people often say
like, well, you can't because everyone owns something. It's like, dude,
trust me, if you wanted to, you could go live in the wilderness.
Like, nobody's going to find you.
Like, yeah, there's a lot of no-man's
land, you know. You just
do you really want to do it?
Most people don't want to do it.
And they won't.
And so they end up paying taxes and being part of a machine that does really, really awful things.
But I look at the United States and paying taxes to it not as like supporting abject evil.
I think the U.S. does bad things, but I think the U.S. is overwhelmingly good.
We just have to fight from within to fix it. We have the means to do so. The people who work at Bud Light, less so. I mean,
I'm sure the bottle plant workers who are subcontracted could complain, but Bud Light
clearly doesn't care and has no interest. The people in this country can ballot harvest,
ballot chase, vote, and actually get Donald Trump elected again, and then he can start making those
changes. We have seen tremendous changes made through the united states so it's not absolute there's
absolutely problems in this country that we are a part of and we help support but my point is
you know the somebody built mordor you know what i mean and i'm not going to be upset that they've
lost their jobs because mordor collapsed when the ring fell into the fires of Mount Doom.
All those workers on the Death Star.
It's like a meme on the internet.
What about all the families?
And it is, to be honest,
that's different. Luke Skywalker
straight up killed millions of people.
True.
Left with the kids, fatherless.
Seriously, the Death Star was a
planet base. It was like a moon and Luke Skywalker
blew it up
and there were people there
and they were like
that's from clerks
they talk about
like the janitors
and like the contractors
the contractors
the thing is
when you work on the Death Star
you know you're working
on the Death Star
you're some guy that
you know you
you knocked your girl up
out of high school
you decide to marry her
do the right thing
try to start a family
and you take a job
paying you know
a little bit above
minimum wage and you're just filling bottles.
And the next thing you know, some CEO who's never going to feel any pain at all from it does something dumb.
And suddenly you're out of – I have sympathy.
I just have tremendous sympathy.
The people who work on the Death Star don't think they're working on the Death Star.
You know you're working on the Death Star.
So you're saying that when someone gets hired by a contractor
to build a building for the government,
they know they're evil.
There's a difference between putting on a uniform,
taking a weapon, or going into a war zone
and fixing a tank in a war zone.
The Death Star was a military base in outer space
that wasn't in enemy territory or anything like that.
And a guy gets hired to build microwave panels
for one of the rooms.
With an empire that is at war and you kind
of the united states is an empire well the point is the clerks is that you have to accept for some
possibility for where you go to work and my standard for people being a technical contractor
going out of the death star that you know has a giant weapon that's going to blow up planets or
did they maybe i think they saw that i bet the empire told them it was called happyville it was
the death star name is only the the rebels that gave it that name.
Yeah, it's propaganda, man.
They probably called it like the USS Liberty or something.
But the clerk's example was,
the second part is that a contractor knows a guy is a mobster
and turns down a job to fix roofing on his house
because he knows he's a mobster.
Whereas he could have just been greedy and said,
yes, he's going to pay me twice what I normally get.
I'll go to him and say, no, I'm not going to do it. And that was the,
the guy who overheard the conversation interrupts saying, you know, actually those people will take
the job on the Death Star. They should accept some responsibility, but I, I, I, I'm sorry.
I just can't see a bot working on the Death Star and working in a bottle plant for-
Manhattan Project. People did not know what they were building. Nobody knew that. That's the famous story of how it was compartmentalized
and there were theories about what it could or couldn't be,
but no one really knew for sure.
Once you get to the Death Star
and you look around and see the uniforms,
the people wearing,
you're not screamed,
these are the bad guys.
No, no, no.
That's for sure.
The empire, the people,
the average citizen in the empire
still thought that they were living under the the good guys the
republic yeah because the the in the beginning of star wars the of episode four like they say you
know we we just dissolved this the senate the imperious the last vestiges of the old republic
have gone away so people didn't really know that it was the bad guys. They were cheering for the end of the Republic
and the Death Star already
existed. But are you not saying that the name
Death Star didn't kind of give it away a little bit?
I don't imagine that the average
person on...
I don't think the people
on Coruscant called it the Death Star.
Yeah, like the people working on it,
it's like we're building a space station
for the Empire. The Preserver, it was called.
And they probably called it like, the Republic still existed when they were building it.
And they probably had the Republicans commissioned a orbital space station.
And I'm installing a laser on it that can blow up an entire planet.
No, you're not installing a laser on it.
Who installed the laser?
You're saying one guy built the nuclear bomb.
One guy was like, I'm going to build this all by myself.
You know if you're building a laser.
You don't.
Maybe some of them do.
The people who worked on the Manhattan Project did not know what they were building. laser you don't maybe maybe some of the people who worked on the manhattan project did not know their some of them didn't the the highest like you you actually had people
like you know was it oppenheimer was that i am become death yeah some of these people knew exactly
what they were doing and said it but the average person working on the project had no idea so i'm
saying this look are we not defending the work the contractors on the desk absolutely
defending them in this in this sense well how
can you defending them and not the bottle plant no no because let me finish okay i did defend the
bottle plant workers i am sad that they lost their jobs i don't blame them for what bud light did
but i'm not going to cry that they're no longer propping up the banality of evil
the people working the death star who were killed in in by Luke Skywalker in this this
terror campaign to blow up a military base religious fundamentalist crazy religious
fundamentalists on a terror campaign blowing up a military base call whatever you want there there
were people who did not know what was going on and like you said like some people take responsibility
for the things they choose to do if you don't know that you are providing a major component
to a weapon of mass destruction
i'm not going to be like well that you know you're absolved like over two and a half million
citizens of the republic were on that that space station and they all lost their lives how can you
how can you say that that's okay how many civilian like contractors are villains but how many
civilians who weren't working there like what about people's families you know what i mean but
anyway i digress on the star wars point because it is a bit silly the point is throughout history
there have been tyrannical regimes and there have been soldiers who marched along with those
tyrannical regimes doing jobs that we would describe as mundane filing paperwork or mopping
floors but these people still get held accountable for being a part of these regimes that's true but
the people who mostly suffer from these regimes are the people at the very
bottom with no say, no agency at all, who get grinded up in the gears of history and
are forgotten and are turned to dust.
But that's immaterial to, like, yes, absolutely.
The idea that the, I mean, look, there are wars where the kings or leaders of countries
lose and then say, well, you know, actually, I'll give you an example from the Patriot, Mel Gibson.
Love this movie.
When Mel Gibson starts taking out the officers of the British forces, he actually has a meeting with the guy and he's like, we want the cessation of, you know, the killing of officers.
And he goes, no, so long as your officers are ordering the targeting of women and children we i will order my men to fire on them on site the cornwallis was like you you can't
target the officers like we're special people and he was like too bad like it has always been the
case that the nobles will go to war and be like well you've bested me shall we have a pint people
but look we're not shooting the officers in this case though we're
shooting like the people who are like way behind the lines maybe working supplies or something
like that it's like imagine you're imagine it's the civil war and there's a bunch of southern
confederates conscripted into the war and they're marching on gettysburg and you're like no no don't
fire on them they don't know what they're doing let them keep doing their thing like bro they are
the war yeah but if you just shoot the generals and a
couple officers they'll go home back to their farms but that's not possible because they're
shielded not in this case so the issue is the people at these bottling plants are the ones who
make bud like the money and are are the ones responsible for all of it i don't blame them
as individuals but i am not going to cry that they lost their jobs we want when we said i hope bud light goes out of
business did people like not realize that meant they would lose their jobs i just wanted the
executives who made the decisions to be fired and never that's ridiculous though but that's never
gonna happen but otherwise like you use the term collateral damage well look um the last person to
be fired is going to be the people who are at the top
i hear you i hear you when the company is a smoldering pile of economic figurative rubble
then they'll be they'll be they'll only be fired because there's no more money left
not because anybody fired them who fires the seat who fires the boss the board the board and the
are going to protect each other depending i really doubt they're going to go after him.
And it's the people who build the machine.
This idea that it's like the machine is made by the individual laborers who all come together in this big, big swarm to make Bud Light possible.
So when we said that we hoped Bud Light would go out of business or be knocked down, quite literally, we're saying thousands will lose that's that's pretty rough but i hear where you're coming from i just have a point of
disagreement with it yeah the job economy thing is kind of like they use it as an excuse to propel
crappy my position is the whole thing that everyone has to have a job is like there is no circumstance
where our boycott would lead to higher ups at bud light losing their jobs sure sure sure a couple
didn't the people made the decision lose their jobs a couple of marketing vps but the person
who actually made the decision alissa heiner shed she's the one that actually made the decision so
so like one person lost their job in the company doubled down but it was one person's decision
ultimately so why is bud light still sponsoring all these pride events? I guess they need some more pressure.
All they did was do a PR stunt and ignored the problem.
But now the machine is actually crumbling.
And that means when the machine crumbles, people who work on the machine lose their jobs.
There's no circumstance where the hires of the company take responsibility for this and anything actually.
I mean, look at the DeSantis campaign.
His supporters defend him when he does things
that are bad. He won't fire his press team.
It doesn't happen.
We want there to be accountability, but the
idea that like
it's just not the
real world. The real world is
that Bud Light is made by individuals
to the tens of thousands. The only
way Bud Light stops getting made is if those
individuals stop working to make Bud Light.
You can fire the CEO, they'll hire a new one.
You can fire that Alyssa Hiner-Shider,
whatever her name is,
and they still keep sponsoring Pride.
But if these people had quit their job,
they just would have been replaced.
And honestly, these jobs are less than 10 years away
from complete automation anyway.
You're right, they would be replaced,
except if you get the plant to shut down completely,
which happened.
Well, they'll find another plant. Capital will find it. No, no, another plant capital will find no no no no no they're not finding another plant the plants shut down because no one's buying the beer and the
bottles aren't going anywhere where was the plant do you guys know louisiana the point is this they
didn't shut the plants down because of cost they shut it down because nobody is buying the beer
you can't you can't make product people won't buy right but your position is like if you're
a worker at this plant you should have been paying attention to social
media and caught way ahead of the outrage hey they're about to release a can with a transgender
you had three months notice afterwards when the boycott started to start looking for work elsewhere
it's kind of like people that didn't know to get their money out of the stock market before the
great depression like i have compassion for those people, but they lost their money.
Almost no one did.
Because they didn't know.
Some people knew.
Some people got out and put cash in their backyard.
Some people bought hard assets.
I do not accept the argument that people are not responsible for their own lives.
I remember when I was a little kid,
I was late to school one day because a train came.
And when I got to school, they marked me late
and I had to tell my parents and get a form signed.
My dad said, why are you late? And I said, said well it wasn't my fault there was a train and he said you know the train tracks are there that's your fault you should have left early to not get it
stop by the train how old were you 13 would they have held you to that account if you were five
or six walking by myself you're talking about 40 and 40 year old but again there's an age at which
or there's certain look yeah the guy's working at the bottom line is four years old yeah but
the bottom line is that we're hopefully every american every person here i think believes in
justice and when somebody makes a bad decision that they're the people that ultimately need to
be held accountable for it whereas people who had no, they get home at the end of the day.
They spend a little time with their kids, their wife.
They have a nice, maybe one beer and a nice dinner.
They go, they're not paying attention.
I'm glad they lost their jobs.
All right.
Well, the idea that you could ignore your civic responsibilities
and not know what you're building is absurd to me.
There was one can that was issued as a promotion
and it blew up.
That is incorrect.
Dylan Mulvaney sponsored a contest
drinking several beers and put out of,
it was not,
see, this is the lie the media put out.
It was one promotional can.
No, Dylan Mulvaney made a video with a bunch of beers
and it said support this contest or something like that
and drank the beers
and Dylan Mulvaney said that they were hired by Bud Light and then Bud Light
basically abandoned them.
So if the issue is Bud Light decided
to do this thing and it caused a backlash
and Bud Light refuses to apologize,
doubles down on sponsoring more of these events
over and over again where nude men are dancing
and thrusting in front of children, which they did,
and it keeps happening and you
are working at a plant that makes Bud Light and you're like
well, I don't care.
I'm getting paid.
I'm glad you got fired.
I every every person has a civic responsibility.
This is the frustrating thing to me.
Going to West Virginia, 86 percent supporting Trump and the people there don't pay attention,
don't vote, don't organize.
They do nothing.
To a certain extent, I don't blame
people for not wanting to jump into this political conflict, but we need to recognize that individuals
have responsibility to their country, to their families, to their communities, and it is being
abandoned too often by the right, but the left revels in their cult-like behavior. That's why
they had gained so much ground. So for Bud Light to do this, and for people to be like,
well, it's been two months. Bud Light's doubling down. People are
mad. Sales are dropping. Every week
we can see, I'm going to keep
working here. Sorry. I just don't
think these people had any awareness, and it's unreasonable
to have that expectation. That's why it's their fault.
I hear you. Look, you are
technically right. If you work for a company,
and they're doing things
that could cause you to lose your job, you you should say yeah there's a problem here i'm smart enough to
recognize i need to kind of get or i have the options to or i but a lot of these people they
just so look i have a jobs program at look ahead america for people who have gotten out of prison
for j6 because they've got two strikes against them they're they're they've committed a crime
they've convicted but they also have the They've committed a crime they've convicted,
but they also have the burden of being a J6er, right? Which makes it even harder to employ them.
And we promote, we try to find employers to place with them. And we try to find people that can,
that have suffered from this, who need help with employment. And we do that. Lookaheadamerica.org
slash jobs for J6. So if you lost your job at this plant in North Carolina, we're going to open up
this program for you to do our best to help you find a new job.
And if you're an employer in North Carolina,
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I do.
Look, mostly, Tom, sometimes I agree with people largely,
and they say something I disagree with and just let it go.
But sometimes they say something that's very dangerous.
And recently, Mike Lindell has done this. And he initially did it in a conversation
with I consider a good friend, a great patriot, Scott Pressler. Scott Pressler is advocating
that we need an all of the above strategy for voter turnout, that we need to encourage people
to vote early, especially those who are not inclined already to show up and vote on election
day. And we see this happening again and again. And it's important that these people have their voices heard and it's affecting the outcome of elections.
Whereas Mike Lindell, maybe best of intentions, but he's saying that, no, we can't do that.
And he says, you know, these people are 100% wrong. He's quoted in the New York Times saying
that we should only have same day voting, shouldn't encourage people to do anything else.
Mike, I put my head on your pillow every night to sleep, but you're wrong about this, and I am challenging you to a debate.
You name the time and the place, I think maybe we can do it here or on one of the other affiliated shows here at the TimCast World.
But I think you're wrong about this, and I think we need to have a public discussion about that between you and me.
And I welcome you anytime, anyplace to discuss the importance of this issue because it's going to have a big impact.
And anytime, Mike, let's do it.
We should have you guys on the Culture War.
I'd be happy to do it.
Mike Lindell, come on down to the Culture War podcast.
We'll get you guys and we'll talk about voting.
That'd be really fun.
We'd love to do it.
We'll see if we can make that happen.
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Thanks for coming, man. What's the name of your organization again?
The Job jobs website.
Look Ahead America
and the website is lookaheadamerica.org
and it's lookaheadamerica.org
slash jobs for J6.
Is it the number four jobs for J6 spelled out?
Good question.
F-O-R.
Thanks.
Jobs for J6.
And if you're a J6-er
and you're having a hard time finding employment
because you got all these strikes,
we do have employers that are willing to give you a shot.
So let us,
we've hooked up many people with employment
and let us help you.
Thanks for coming, man.
Great to see you again.
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one thanks guys uh my name is serge.com and remember guys it's not about how hard you get
hit it's about how hard you get hit and continue to stand up and keep going so like you said it's
it's i feel bad for people losing their jobs, but people lose jobs.
That's life. You have to get a new job.
It's on you. It's your responsibility.
So I hope they can find work.
Follow me on the internet. I made a threads thing because
I don't know. It's not going to win. It'll be done in a little
while, but at sir.com. Oh, threads is out?
It came out today,
so I made a stupid post
saying, are you all ready for this or something?
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