Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #813 Tucker Says He Was Fired JUST BEFORE Exposing FEDS At Jan 6th Riot w/James Klug

Episode Date: July 8, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, Carter, & Kellen join James Klug to discuss Tucker Carlson saying he was fired just before exposing feds at Jan. 6, KJP snapping at reporters asking about the White House Cocaine, AOC endorsing Biden 2024, & a Gays Against Groomers member resigning over the group supporting DeSantis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and he said something that it might be shocking, and it might actually be kind of obvious. There were a lot of feds on January 6th embedded. What Tucker Carlson said was that he had done an interview with the Capitol Police chief who told him this and he wasn't a conspiracist. And then he hears this is like interesting. He did not get a chance to air that interview because Fox removed him before he could. He does intend to have that interview. So this is really,

really fascinating. I don't know if it's necessarily a revelation because we've been learning more and more about the officers who were embedded on January 6th

and even encouraging people to take action. But I still think this is big news. I'm looking forward to seeing how Tucker handles moving forward. And we do have a lot

of other news too, of course. We'll talk about that. Donald Trump heading to Dairy Queen behind everybody blizzards having a good time. And then this may sadden all of you leftists.

Yes, our leftist fans. AOC has endorsed Joe Biden. Sure. Okay. Talk about an establishment shill, but fine. We get it. And then we'll just talk about what's going on with the election stuff. We got some Ron DeSantis in the news, and we're going to be talking a bit about that you know this one's

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So definitely support us that way. Smash the Like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is James Klug. Thanks for having me. What's going on, everyone? James Klug. You can find my YouTube channel, youtube.com slash James KLUG, primarily focused on street conversations with folks on the left and leftists out on the street, everything like that. So you guys, thank you so much for having me. Right on. And making a rare appearance is producer Carter Banks.

What's up, guys? I'm back since the one time that I was on the other time. It's great to see everyone. He's back. I'm here to hang out. What do you do? I make music and do Trash House Records stuff. We got a lot of stuff coming up, including a music video with

starring Ian Crossland. That's going to be that's going to be hefty. Yeah, we talked about that last night. Very good. Philobonti is here. Hi, everybody. I am Philobonti, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. And we are here with Ian Crossland. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. Have a good evening tonight. Let's get started. We have to my right. Yes, it is me. Hi, what's up, everybody? It's Kellen pressing buttons tonight. Ready to go when you guys are. Let's get it. Here's the first story from the Daily Mail. Tucker Carlson tells Russell Brand he doesn't know why he was fired by Fox News in his first interview, as he also makes the bombshell claim that the crowd outside the Capitol on January 6 was filled with federal agents. Well, in fact, we have that clip. Green Lives Matter. Not sure who that is other than they have a good amount

of followers and they tweeted this. Tucker says the chief of Capitol Police told him that the crowd on January 6th was filled with federal agents. He planned on airing

that interview but was canceled before he could do so. Now we know why he was canceled and fired. Are you seeing it clearly now they don't want the world to know the truth?

Well, let me play for you that clip. It's only about 50 seconds long. And that was a tip off to me i mean i had no thought in my head as i watched this happen on television and in the subsequent weeks that u.s law enforcement or military agencies had anything to do with it that never crossed my mind i never thought there was it was a false flag or anything like that i'm not a conspiracist by temperament. I never thought that. And then I interviewed the chief of the

Capitol Police, Stephen Sund, in an interview that was never aired on Fox, by the way. I was fired before it could air. I'm going to interview him again. But Stephen Sund was the totally non-political, worked for Nancy Pelosi. I mean, this was not some right-wing activist. He was the chief of the Capitol

Police on January 6th. And he said, oh yeah he said oh yeah yeah that crowd was filled with federal agents what yes well he would know of course because he was in charge of security at the site so the more time has passed now it's been so that's that's the the gist of it i mean this is it's big news but i i do think it's going to be better when tucker does actually interview the chief of police and we hear it straight from you know this individual who's in charge of security but uh yeah i would imagine he's going to prompt uh you know actually deliver that promise as well yeah getting that out there because that'll just be i mean pretty much confirming a lot of what people have been saying right after january 6th i don't know if you guys remember but

i mean obviously this was right after the Summer of Love and everything like that. And a major narrative just from people was, oh, well, Trump supporters don't really move like that. This seems a little bit off. This seems suspicious. It seems as though the more time that's passing by, the more this stuff is just getting exposed

every single month. The scary thing, I suppose, is it's trickling and drops at a time yeah you know we we see videos of some guys saying like go go go move and encouraging people to engage in this stuff then we learn that there's more and more police officers who ran on the funny thing is early on you had uh you have that famous video with aoc where she's like i'm you know questioning the cops who may have been involved or she said something to that effect after uh alex stein did that big booty latina thing she was saying like we don't feel safe and

stuff and the point i made was wow aoc is claiming it was an inside job but there's videos of cops opening the doors for people waving people in taking selfies with people so right there you could argue yeah the cops were letting people in if this was insurrection, well, they were police officers letting them in. Now there's a bigger question and increasingly more and more news being added to the mix, which is creating a bigger picture of actually there are people in the crowd encouraging it and making it happen. The reason why I say it's scary is that it's coming out only in slow droplets to the point where people don't care because it's not a bombshell. Yeah, yeah.

Just drop as many, a thousand stories over the next handful years. And like you said, not a big bombshell. I think for the general population as well, they don't grab onto the little tiny hints and clues here and there. They really grab onto major bombshells. So if I went out on the street and talked to people about these details that have been coming out, most people don't know about this stuff. They only know about major, major explosions the media and then assuming that the mainstream

media even covers it and then by the time we're at the general election next year it will be common knowledge that it was largely a federal operation and they'll be saying it was a good thing yeah it saved the election or helped help save democracy yet first they'll say first they said it wasn't happening you're lying now we have more information it was say first they said it wasn't happening you're lying now we have more information it was then they're going to say oh well you're exaggerating and then by next year it'll be a good thing that's how the cycle goes and they'll be like oh yeah it happened yeah and it was a really good thing that it did because they caught those evil people for sure for sure yeah they they prevented a siege by letting them inside and capturing them

on the inside it's probably the argument they'll make what would have happened if they if they tried to block them i mean it would have been really maybe they would have burned it down you know so by opening the door oh yeah and encouraging them to do it was to find out who was really a going to be a seditionist and etc etc blah blah i was thinking a lot about these these protesters last night and like they were addressing grievances they didn't believe the election was fair and they were trying to stand their ground and take space to prevent the signing of basically the of biden the of the election they were like of you know whatever they were signing off and making it valid they were like no we're gonna stay here so you can't they weren't like attacking people or choking people ashley babbitt got shot because she went a little too far. I think she climbing up and over the barricade going into the inner chambers got shot.

I understand why. I don't like it, but they were like just taking up space. Right. Not to mention that had been done all over the place for the last however many hundreds of days like we watched in the Summer of Love. So they're like, well, I mean, why can't we do this as well? Well, they even try to sell it as an armed insurrection. Like they will go that far. I talk to people about this all the time and they will go that far to be like, oh, well, some guy across the parking lot was caught with a firearm on his person or something like that.

Therefore, now they can say it's an armed insurrection. Like I was there, man. I was I was reporting on the thing. I was there. Not inside. I saw a lot of people. It's like it was nothing like any right you've ever seen. It was I was there. Not inside, but I saw a lot of people and it was nothing like any riot you've ever seen. It was, okay, some people

misbehaving over here. You look to your right and it's like 15 grandmas praying. I think there was a photo of a guy who's on the stairs and he's got a gun on him. Was he a fed? Now I'm starting to wonder. This is exactly the point. Well, there's tens of thousands of people there, too. So here's the issue is that

I remember seeing these photos circulate, mainly among the left. A lot of people on the right didn't know this. Even I was wrong about this early on when I was like, there were no guns. What are you talking about? How could you have a gun in D.C. Yeah, there was. They found a couple. And they did.

And now that we're learning that there were law enforcement there, it's like, oh, now that kind of explains it, doesn't it? Right. Like, were those guys? Because the question is, how do you get a firearm onto these into the city, under these grounds with heightened security and stuff like that how did they not spot this or find it it's entirely possible i'm not saying i'm not saying that they were law enforcement it's entirely possible some guy did bring a bring a gun you it you can walk in you can find find ways to bypass security uh or it could just be the photo they found of that guy was because i don't think that guy's been charged either well and that's where it's like okay you raise a very reasonable question your question is who is that and even that gets criticized it's oh

stop that stop you you're you're a conspiracy theorist don't have this conversation don't get more specific don't show more footage don't educate people i should clear it up too they weren't all i don't think they were all just standing there taking up space some of them were getting violent pushing cops pushing breaking things right yeah so those people i think deserve to be punished for what they did not for anything i mean you can't just fight police and just get away with it unless you're a blm protester right or antifa or considering the previous year it's not that much to ask to say you know at least treat people fairly you know but the same way that you would that they treat treated the other protesters in dc and six months earlier.

This is the point that Carter was making. You have the Summer of Love protests and riots in front of the White House, setting fire to St. John's Church, forcing the president to a bunker, and half the people on January 6th were nowhere near that level. For sure. They injured Secret Service as well. They destroyed multiple patrol vehicles. Like 100 or something Secret Service were injured.

A guard post was set on fire and burned down. Right outside the White House. The barricades were torn down. The president was forced into a bunker. And so you get people who are marching peacefully to the Capitol. And first, I always preface it on one side, violence. Very, very bad rioting. Yep, arrest those people.

And then on the other side, you had the cops open the doors and say don't don't don't agree with it but respect it and fan people into the point where there have been acquittals because there's video of the cops going like this and waving people in so you're a guy watching trump speak and then someone says hey let's all go march down to the capitol and trump says we're going to go peacefully uh you know watch politicians you walk over you see a building, you see the cops waving people in, you walk in, and they're like, you are now going to prison for the next several years without charge or trial because you're an

insurrectionist. After you just watched all these videos of the far left trying to burn down a church in front of the White House, talk about... It's not even hypocrisy or double standard. Who was it who said... Jacob Sobik, maybe? It's a three-tier justice system. Yeah, he did. He said it on this show when he was guest hosting ah there's the protected class then

there's the random run-of-the-mill people they care a little about and the persecuted class so if you're a regular person who's walking down the street you may or may not get a ticket they're going to ignore you it's whatever if you're a leftist extremist not only will you be acquitted like in dc when they were riding during trump inauguration, they won a lawsuit and got paid out by tax dollars. And then if you're a Trump supporter, you will bumble around confused and you'll be in prison for two years. Or if you're even perceived to be a Trump supporter or whatever, like Eric Herrera, he went to prison for actually, I'll first say he was a non-credential journalist went in there with a you know camera in into the capitol building non-violent nothing violent that he did and he went to prison for four years

what he was he was sentenced sentenced prison for four years and i think he went in maybe three months ago non-violent you you can even check out his case. What was he charged with? So what they got a lot of these people with, and I'm not a total professional on this, but I will say when it comes to the charges, what they were getting people with was obstruction of an official proceeding. That's what they got him on. That is what they were doing.

Even though he was there being a journalist, literally with a DSLR around his neck. I believe he went into one of the offices and held up a piece of paper. I'm pretty sure it says that on his case. But he got four years. You can compare that to, I mean, how many BLM or Antifa members can you compare that to

from riots that did something 15, 20, 30 times worse that served way less time? That's insane. There are absolutely many leftists who have been criminally charged. They often get ridiculously light sentences. There was just news about people

at a Michael Knowles event, some far leftists who did something with explosives. They've been criminally charged. You have those two lawyers in New York who are giving out firebombs. And what did they get, like a year? I think they got like maybe two. They definitely got less than Eric.

I know that for sure. And we had Matt Brennan on the show. Did they get disbarred? I think they got like maybe two. They definitely got less than Eric. I know that for sure. And we had Matt Brennan on the show. Did they get disbarred? I don't even know. Probably. I would imagine so, but I mean, maybe even not. I would really like to know if they got disbarred. I would imagine.

Yeah, I mean, I would imagine too, but I wouldn't be shocked if we found out they didn't, though. But Matt Brainerd was on the show just a couple days ago, and he mentioned that there's a guy, and probably more than one, that is currently in jail without charge or trial two and a half years later. Not charged with anything. So you ask, what did they get these people on? Well, in some cases, nothing. In some cases, these people are just locked up for nothing. Yep. That's crazy.

For having the wrong political opinions and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Non-violent. I actually forgot to mention, also, Eric, to add on top of this case, he's actually a registered Democrat as well. Oh, wow. So he's not even that political of a guy. Not even that political. Man. Yeah. Well, let's talk about this here multi-tiered justice system with this story from

the Daily Mail. Kareem Jean-Pierre snaps at the press for asking if the cocaine belonged to Hunter or the Biden family. What was the latest update that it was actually near the situation room in like a in like a family in like high security area white house press secretary kareem john pierce snapped at a reporter who had asked her to say once and for all the cocaine found the white house did not belong to a biden family member

i just i love how it's like a biden family member because everybody knows you're not allowed to say his name it's not you're not the mainstream the member because everybody knows. You're not allowed to say his name. You're not the mainstream, the media and all the reporters. They're not allowed to say his name. Basically, you know, there's been some irresponsible reporting with the family. And so I've got to call that out here. The press secretary said, and I have been very clear. I was clear two days ago when talking was over and over again. And I was being asked the question, as you know, the media outlets reported this.

The Biden family was not here. They were not here. They were at Camp David. They were not here Friday. they were not here saturday they were not here sunday they were not even here monday they came back out here on tuesday it's remarkable because like kareem they weren't there on friday were they there on thursday oh and if they were could hunter have dropped his cocaine then? Well, okay. Yeah. Well, I think them just not being transparent about it or her not talking to Secret Service or anything like that to actually have some decent answers for the reporters.

I do love that with the point where no one believes them. I know. The reporters are just like, come on. Like, come on. You know, Hunter Biden's a crackhead. What do you expect us to believe? But in terms of- It could be Jill's. We have no clue. But let's just- It could be a Biden family member. I don't know. Hunter Biden's a crackhead. What do you expect us to believe? But in terms of... It could be Jill's. We have no clue.

It could be a Biden family member. I don't know. For sure. And maybe not. Maybe some senior official, someone connected. But let's just pause and break down. January 6th, bumbling guy walks through doors opened for him by police, takes selfie with cops, adheres to the velvet ropes as he walks around smiling.

The police then say, everyone's got to go. And they go, OK. And they they wave and leave two years in prison someone in a high level of government bringing illicit drugs into the white house oh we can't figure this one out sorry everybody have a nice day how about this whoever planted the pipe bombs can't figure that one out either yeah multi tiered multi-tiered justice system i was this is a bit anecdotal but i watched that video of hunter on stage with jill and joe from the july 4th celebration where hunters look all he looks all like tweaking right pretty hard for like a couple seconds and then he goes behind jill and i'm watching joe's maybe we can pull this video up watch joe

he smiles real tense like and jill looks so just mortified right when hunter's behind her looks like he's sorting coke off his wrist or something or out of a vial and joe like when his arm goes up is when joe goes like like really awkward smile and jill gets real annoyed like oh god she can't stand that guy hunter it's just so obvious i think she's said it plaintively in the past that she i don't know to be honest i don't have the documentation here but do you guys remember that south park episode good i think it was from the 2008 election with mccain and obama probably and it's like the whole purpose of running for president was it was a diamond heist to like oh yeah yeah and they're like boom baby it's like yes i think it'd just be a really great short film where it's like the biden family

i don't like you make a show it's people think it's like veep but veep is silly but the biden family is more like degenerate you know like um what's that what's that one show about house of cards no the family in chicago that are like shameless shameless yeah yeah just like a bunch of degenerates and yes that's like yeah you call it shameless i i didn't see that one but south park's been doing a pretty good job uh especially on the trans stuff they did a pretty good job, especially on the trans stuff. They did a pretty good job. Dude, they've been early on all of it too, man. Right.

Competing with the Simpsons on some of this stuff. Well, the Simpsons are woke. I meant for the predicting of the future situations. Well, no, I just mean the Simpsons predicting things ended 20 years ago. Right. South Park still like... They've been like five years ahead of the curve right it's

crazy are they predicting it or are they giving it a green light i don't think they're giving it a green light no i think i think what happens with uh you know if you watch a show like black mirror not so much this latest season because it's more of a horror series at this point than a sci-fi series but it's just a thought experiment it's a it's a hypothetical like what happens if x continues so when we're looking at government like you just ask yourself a logical question But it's just a thought experiment. It's a hypothetical, like, what happens if X continues? So when we're looking at government, like, you just ask yourself a logical question. If Hunter Biden is a crackhead, I'm sure a lot of people could have easily predicted we'll eventually find drugs in the White House.

Hey, it happened. Now we're supposed to believe it was not Hunter. He's the notorious famous drug user. So look, maybe, maybe it's only a 5% chance it was not hunter he's the notorious famous drug user so look maybe maybe it's only a five percent chance it was hunter yeah he still has the the dominant plurality of probability the narrative is gonna is already set either way like it doesn't really matter if hunter did have it or not because it's not likely that there's going to be any kind of significant investigation the people on the right have already made up their mind that it was Hunter. They're going to say it was Hunter

and meme the hell out of it, even if it kind of sucks at him at this point because he's getting blamed for it anyway. Right. I mean, he's already, but look, there's video of him smoking crack on his way to Las Vegas driving a hundred. No, no.

Was it the same one where he was driving 172 miles an hour? I mean, I heard the crack in the car was different than the driving 172. an hour. But does it matter? But the point that I'm making is it doesn't matter because he was going to Vegas to bang hookers. He definitely smokes

a bunch of crack. He's definitely had coke. So like, was it his? Was it not? It was his? Who cares? He definitely bangs hookers,

smokes crack, and drives. It doesn't matter if it was his. That is such a good point, though. I think most of the American people probably just draw that conclusion anyways. It doesn't matter what the truth is at this point. They just say, okay, well, cocaine.

Yeah, Hunter Biden. Oh, it wasn't Hunter's? There you go. He still does all that. Right. It just draws attention to that. Yeah. Here's the thing about Hunter Biden.

We are all people who try to be, to a certain degree, virtuous. And we're like, oh, how dare he drive at such a high rate of smoking crack. But there are people who do nothing but party and club and they're like,

whoa, like he's cool. I don't want people to think that I'm saying that I'm virtuous. I don't want that kind of responsibility. I have,

I've been in a band for too long. I have a history. No. If you go to like the average person at a club on a Friday or Saturday night, and you're

like, let me tell you a story about this guy who drives like 170 miles an hour while smoking crack and banging hookers. They're going to be like, damn, like, who's this guy? Sounds like he can party. It's like the president's son. They're going to go, wow. Is he really going 170? Was that confirmed?

I don't know. I think it was in the photo. Does it matter if it's 140? Was he really going that fast? I mean, the point is like 30 miles an hour. Does it really matter? No, once you're up over 98, you're pretty much... Well, if you're over 120. I think one of the most extreme differences is watching how the media reported on Trump's children and how intense...

There was an article every single day about this. With Hunter, you don't say his name. Dude, the Hunter Biden laptop. They're even saying a Biden family member. It's like, who's it going to be, Jill? Right. You know, we know what you're saying. Yeah.

But nobody's saying his name. Nobody talks about him. Yeah, here's a photo. It's August 1st. Dr. Booger Sugar. August 1st, 2018, purports to show Hunter Biden speeding to a Las Vegas orgy. What? 172.

So is this video taken by him, too? I guess so i tell you what nbc you're right maybe it's not his cocaine in the white house all the other stuff but no but to be fair for even this like it's a photo from his laptop most likely was him but who knows maybe it was uh devin archer or somebody somebody who worked with maybe it was joe himself you know they shared phone numbers or emails or something like that and you know look there's a lot of highways out there heading to vegas where there's nothing around and there's no speed limit so technically he might not be actually breaking the law because it goes by like are you driving unsafely no he had cracked no he's definitely breaking the law i'll stop with that one in hunter's 2021 memoir beautiful things he

admitted to crashing a buick verano while speeding through Palm Springs during another drug bender in October 2016. Wait, man, don't speed through Palm Springs. In the book, Hunter wrote that he was high for 12 consecutive days before entering an Arizona rehab. What the hell? I mean, you know, a part of me, obviously, it's unfortunate seeing people struggle with addiction and all that stuff. But also at the same time, you have the Biden family that basically, I mean, if anything, they can pull this off. I would say worse than let's say this was the case for Trump or something. I mean, they sell themselves as the adults are back in charge.

They're all responsible. Good. Everybody says how good of a parent he is. You know, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden. You know, they sell him like this. Good, good, a parent he is. Who, Hunter Biden? Joe Biden. They sell him like this good, good, good guy. That's just marketing. Blue collar, Philly Joe, whatever. Right.

Just one of the boys. Joe Scranton. Right. And this is just... Hairy legs. It's not a good look. I got compassion for the drug addict. Right.

I often do. But at the same time, if my military commander has a drug problem I want him taken out of power I want somebody else in command and if the military commander has a son with a drug problem and brings him around to the military command spot which is the White House that's a big problem for me or get some really really high paying jobs as well

in prestigious positions or that drug addicted son is sending text messages saying you better do it or else I'm going to tell my dad who's sitting right next to me right now exactly can we make a show can someone finance a Game of Thrones saying you better do it or else I'm going to tell my dad who's going to hold it against me. Who's sitting right next to me right now. Exactly. Can we make a show? Can someone finance a Game of Thrones style show called The Bidens? Because it would be a great

TV show. I mean, you could probably get, if you didn't actually call it The Bidens, you might be able to get someone to make it. That's true. The West Wing was a show, you know. I got an idea. Drama sells. Show pitch. Okay. I'm talking like two million dollars per episode budget where it was big deal hbo i hope you're listening it's about a political family they cheat

in an election to win by having you know people go in late hours and swap out boxes and stuff like that then once they get in they start doing shady business deals to enrich themselves. It's Game of Thrones in the modern era. It writes itself. And, and. Dragons. Yeah, just throw dragons in there. Okay, okay. Hold on, hold on. Now we're talking. But not dragons. Nuclear submarines, I meant. Chasing the dragon. He's talking about heroin. Chasing the dragon.

That's the name of the show, Chasing the Dragon. Just literally shot for shot remake Game of Thrones, but in a modern context, and the dragons would just be like warships and stuff. Dragons are just A-10s. Instead of fires. Every while chasing the dragons. And it's a war movie, kind of, but it's about a corrupt political establishment that's entangled in some crazy war.

And drones that get hacked that end up getting turned around on the homeland or something. That'd be wild. And then what you got to do is you got to have the guy who becomes president president is this like decrepit degenerate you know alzheimer's out of shape and disgusting and then his rival who gets cheated has to be this like tall chiseled and muscular blonde man who sells real estate that's right that's right that's right every every season they find a way to make the you know the leader just collapse on the ground in some creative way as well yes like every season like the fleas on one of those like floor you don't know if he's gonna be in the next season but he is i want to play the cliffhanger the hunter

biden character in that i think i could pull it off it'd be like jared leto and in whatever movies he does where he's like all strung out or memento i think that movie was pretty good yeah you'd make are you looking to do like method acting yeah yeah a lot of crack yes so let's strong let's talk about what it means to be the left in this country ladies and gentlemen from cnn rep alexandria ocasio-cortez supports biden's re's reelection bid. Congratulations. AOC is an establishment shill. That's what you get. And of course, she's going to preface this a little bit with like, no, I'm saying like hypothetically, I would if yeah, this is what this is how politics goes. AOC is this young upstart who's challenging the machine and is a real leftist. And as soon as she gets an office, she starts ponying up to the establishment.

You see that video where she changes her vote or something like that. It's been a while since I saw it. Pelosi yells at her and then her vote changes or something. I don't remember exactly. But here's the story because we want to make sure the context is clear.

Democratic Rep AOC said Thursday that she will support President Joe Biden's re-election bid given the challengers he currently faces in the primary. Author Marianne Williamson, an environmental lawyer, and anti-vaccine activist robert f kennedy have launched campaigns when asked on the pod save america podcast whether she would back biden she said i believe given that field yes amazing there's your uh leftist there's your new uh up and coming progressive i guarantee, in a few years, she's going to start moving up. People have talked about maybe she'll

run for Senate. She's got millions of followers. She is going to be as establishment as establishment can be. She'll be coming out being like, stop insulting my banker friends. The people who run the Federal Reserve are good people trying to make America. She's going to be like Elizabeth Warren. She's going to just say

whatever she's going to say. The press says something positive and then she tricks people into voting for her. She's already basically there. Congratulations. She's also super valuable to the political elite. When it comes to the establishment, her reach is insane. She's incredibly inspirational to a lot of young

left-wing women. I mean, her audience is ridiculous. I don't know. Partially, you can probably blame a part of the right for doing that, but she's really, really valuable for them. So naturally, I think that direction,

they would give her as much power as she needs and all that stuff because they want her a part of the establishment. She's their actual Pied Piper in that she's playing that little flute

and dancing all the progressives right into the hands of the neoliberal establishment. Right. You know, so that's an interesting question because when AOC first won her primary back in, I think it was like 2018, I thought it was a good thing. all the progressives right into the hands of the neoliberal establishment right you know i said an interesting question because when aoc first won her primary back i think it was like 2018 i thought i said it was a good thing i was like good get these establishment democrat shills out crowley

was a prominent like uh fourth in line in the democratic party or whatever she she gets rid of him she takes over and i said she may be you know a leftist or whatever but i'll take a left populist over a corporatist neolib shill and warmonger and what does she turn out to be all that worse term limits and there's a problem as they go in there you get co-opted i don't even blame her i blame the system itself we need term limits because she should be two and out yeah but you know what it is it's aoc has nothing going for her does she have merit does she have talent and ability? To a certain degree, the answer is yes. But would she be anything other than a bartender if she did not get elected? What we see with so many members of Congress and politicians is that they don't have the merit to do anything other than win the beauty pageant.

And once they do, they're terrified. Look, if I don't win my reelection, what happens next? Right. Where's Madison Cawthorn? Right. He's in the news every day he's got something going for him he loses the primary and now he's no longer relevant so if you're someone who wants to be to want who wants to matter and you don't have the ability politics

is your game and then what happens is they get in and they're like okay i can't lose this nancy pelosi probably goes to aoc and says we will do everything in our power to make sure you lose unless you play ball. Do you want to be the up and coming young star of the Democratic Party or do you want to go back to the bar? And she's like, please, Nancy, I'll do anything you say. And here you go. I know Matt Gaetz is I don't know if they're friends or whatever, but he's mentioned to us that he would enjoy having her come on the show with him at some point and have like a debate the sand is his people won't even come on this she actually mentioned ilhan omar specifically multiple times i remember that

and so they they have a bond of some sort probably because they're young and in congress they're but they're like all this freedom caucus and maybe they've worked together a little bit as well as well i would be shocked if she actually said yes they i would be really happy about it but i'm just thinking of ways to head it off at the past before 20 years go by and she is fully establishment scary like mob mentality she endorsed biden a year and a half out come on yeah but she uh with a caveat that at this stage with those two people that he's running against i would what's her opposition rfk i don't know well i that's how you know that they're full of it like if newsom does announce to uh she would go newsom for sure

yeah yeah the thing about rfk is um yeah i disagree with him a lot of things but he's he's he's more populist he's speaking to the people and so it's like oh okay i get it for her to be like oh man i'd rather have Biden. Are you kidding? You'd rather have Biden? Come on. Warmonger? Establishment? Come on, man. I would take Marianne Williamson over both of them, to be completely honest.

I think she's very nice. She'd be a good guest. She's cool. We've invited her several times. She's actually very, very nice. I have a lot of respect for her. I feel so bad for how the media mistreats her and how people make fun of her. That's unfair.

She may be wrong about things, as most people are, but she seems to be a genuine, nice person who really does want to make a difference. I think we would all benefit from having that conversation with her. And she set the record straight about crystals. She doesn't actually own crystals. Well, I do. But this is how they played the book. They called her in the media the crystal woo-woo lady, and it was so sad to see her be like, I don't understand. I don't own

any crystals i've never done anything with this why are they saying that about me it's like welcome to the political arena yeah now now yeah marianne where i'm a fan everything bad they said about you now think about what you think of donald trump welcome to the same game donald trump is far from perfect and we know he said some nasty things but when they come at you and they say you're the crystal woo woo lady think about what they call donald trump and how it's not real and then people come out and they're like but a court found that he was responsible for a rape 30 years ago and it's like dude spare me your ultra liberal new york district ruling that a 30 year old case with no evidence it makes him responsible it's just these are it's political nonsense yeah that's the name

of the game yeah it's always interesting seeing people actually wake up usually i mean i don't know if they fully get out of it but her seeing how she was treated by the media and just kind of putting that or if she was on the show definitely putting that into perspective with her to say look at look what we're dealing with you dealt with that for just a brief moment we deal with that the right deals with that every day right this unfair treatment from the massive media machine tulsi gabbard's another one that had that big time uh just a slash in the face of what what am i up against totally woke up when they uh she called out kamala harris and basically tanked her opportunity to become president if she ever

even no but it was before that it was it was bernie yeah yeah they called her a russian asset she's like dude she's like a colonel was colonel in the middle they they they viewed her as an up-and-coming young star for the democratic party and then when it came to bernie versus hillary said bernie and they were like you've just ended your career and now she's like a entertainer basically remember how she called out clinton hillary clinton she called her like the ultimate warmonger the queen of of warmongers. Right. She like just just absolutely. She called her something worse than that, right? Yeah, it was it was really she excoriated her. I don't I don't have the actual quote right in front, but she absolutely excoriated her.

It was one of the most brilliant political, one of the most brave political things that I've ever seen anyone do. Someone actually running on the Democrat ticket calling hillary clinton it was queen of warmongers yeah queen of warmongers literally just tearing her apart and after that i mean i saw that i was like look she got terrible takes on the two-way but i back her if she's going after clinton you know see this is this is what this is what i like right we have uh we had we did the culture war show today and we had uh stephen bonnell uh is it bonnell's a bottle bottle destiny he's a liberal guy um even after the show War show today, and we had Stephen Bonnell. Is it Bonnell? Bonnell.

Destiny. He's a liberal guy. Even after the show, we're hanging out, and we are having disagreements. But Destiny is an honest guy. He could be wrong about something sometimes. We all are. But I know that if we come and have a conversation, he's actually going to try and make a point that he thinks is true and honestly assess what we are saying to him. Then you have the actual cultural left, which is people like AOC, who will just lie, cheat and steal for political power. You have people like Tulsi Gabbard, who was being honest in what her views were and probably wrong on some things, same as most people are, but was being honest to you

on why she thought those things and was genuinely listening to you. It's almost like the culture war factions, the culture war factions we always try to define what they are but i can tell you one characteristic at the very least is if you hold leftist political opinions but tell the truth you're right wing plain plain and simple that's how it goes i was actually talking with destiny about he said it was funny that um you know when we do these shows with leftists they make the assumption of what my political opinions are because in their world, if you don't follow their narrative, you're right wing. So they'll say things like,

I'm pro-life or something like that, which is like, I'm like, none of these, like these things are not true. You don't know what my opinions actually are. These people make things up. I mean, come on, like what it would take

to endorse someone like Biden. You know what I mean? And for that matter, I'm seeing a lot of that with the DeSantis people as well. I have a conversation with people who support Trump. And some people are fervently culty for Trump. And it is kind of creepy. But most of the prominent Trump people will absolutely concede Trump's faults. Because it is the authentic and appropriate way to approach the conversation.

Hey, you don't like this thing about Trump? Let me talk to you and maybe convince you that there's still some net positives here the desantis people it's like they're they're just identical to democrats no matter what desantis does he is he is infallible he is he is unimpeachable so desantis makes a mistake and they will say it was actually a good thing i wonder if the people you're talking about we say the desantis people you mean like people that are following well and people in his campaign hardcore followers on twitter maybe i wonder that i wonder if what they're doing is it's like an ai or a foreign agent sowing dissent between desantis and you because you have a show and a voice so

if they see some contention they're gonna be like oh i'm gonna make tim angry and be like desantis is great you moron and then you you think that it's desantis somehow connected with that it is insane response well there's no way to know i do because they have verification badges and profiles that say working for the desantis campaign those then maybe but that's who i'm talking about that seems like a pretty big giveaway right yeah and so when i when i say something semi-innocuous like like, wow, I can't believe this thing happened, and they start just attacking me on Twitter, I'm like, why are you attacking me? And so, like, you get the point. It really does feel like they are very much book of rules that they've written out and studied but they don't really get the nuances of why the rules work but they're just following them all expecting them to

be you know to make them cool in that way it's just like we all see it's not working yeah it's like a it's a list right you gotta check every single box and if you differ such as destiny who probably differs a lot from a lot of people on the left, you're kicked out of that cult. When it comes to the extreme left wing, if you differ at all, you're completely out. You know, Tim, I was talking to one of your viewers the other day. I just ran into him in the street. Libertarian kind of guy, you know, disagrees with people on the right, disagrees with people on the left. But he was talking to leftist protesters, gender, you know, cult protesters. And he was just saying he was asking them some basic questions. And you might agree with them on the right, disagrees with people on the left, but he was talking to leftist protesters, gender cult protesters, and he was just

saying, he was asking them some basic questions, and you might agree with them on some stuff, but they were just calling him a fascist and telling him to get the hell out of there, even though he might have agreed on some things. Oh yeah, because it's a cult. I want to pull this up from Predict It, and we'll talk about Ron DeSantis. Ron DeSantis' polls have been

on the decline, and his shares in the prediction market have declined around 30 plus percent over the past 30 days. I believe that Ron DeSantis is an excellent political leader in many, many ways. And what we've been seeing over the past 30 days has been very, very bad for him, which requires a course correction. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. But his campaigns, failures, and the people who surround him have been so bad, I question whether correction. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. But his campaign's failures and the people who surround him have been so bad,

I question whether or not he's actually fit. Let me show you this from predicted, and we'll talk about what's going on with us and DeSantis and the desire, I guess, from DeSantis supporters for there to be drama and for DeSantis to lose support. So over predicted, you can take a look at, basically how this works is,

you can buy a share of a candidate, they're called contracts, and who you think is going to win. Donald Trump is at 56 cents. That means if you buy yes and he becomes the nominee, that share is worth one dollar. So you'll make, you know, 44 cents. Ron DeSantis. He was actually, he peaked on June 9th at 35 cents, and he's dropped down now to 22 cents. So it is going down. Vivek Ramaswamy is popping up. This is the example I want to give. To say this to the DeSantis campaign, you guys need to listen to the criticism and course correct. Because right now what I see is DeSantis supporters are so fervent and they're behaving very much like Democrats to the point that if Ron DeSantis supporters are so fervent and they're behaving very much like Democrats to the point that if Ron DeSantis makes a mistake and everyone surrounding him just says he's right, no matter what, he will lose support. And that is what's happening. Which brings me to the story

that happened just a few hours ago. Let's talk about the DeSantis campaign. Many of you may be familiar with a video that went viral where chanters in New York were saying, we're coming for your children. Many of you are probably aware, and some of you may not familiar with a video that went viral where chanters in New York were saying, we're coming for your children. Many of you are probably aware and some of you may not be that that that was filmed by a lot. Eliahu, our field reporter who was specifically contracted to film for Tim Cass News. That footage is property copyright owned and licensed out by Tim Cass News to for use. A lot of people have used it without permission. And there are questions about whether or not they should have done that. That ultimately falls to Elad Eliyahu, who retains the rights for licensing outside of Timcast to certain degrees.

We have an arrangement with him. So it's going to come down to whether or not he believes that we have to pursue these things. The Ron DeSantis campaign took the video, nine seconds of it, wrote, paid for by dissent of dissent is for president and started texting it out to people. It's not an ad. It's literally just the clip that from from our Twitter that we published and we own. I did not go to them screaming like I did. I did speak with people who associated with the desandis campaign um the first thing i did before any communication happened is i get hit up by a bunch of people saying did you sell this footage to the desandis campaign because i'm seeing this thing and i said no we didn't i then have to talk to elad because we have an arrangement where he gets he gets uh he gets paid essentially a percentage based on licensing we want him to make as much money as possible when he produces these things.

We want to promote him and support his work so he gets that money, not us. If someone comes to me and says, hey, dude, you like it. I'm not saying this will happen, but this is what you all need to consider. Someone comes to me and says, hey, I'm supposed to get paid when you license this footage out. This thing says paid for by DeSantis for president. Did you sell that footage and not tell me because you'd owe me money if that was the case? I'm more proactive on that. So I said, hey, hey, guys, no, like we didn't do this.

What do I do? I tweet. We did not license this footage to Ron DeSantis' campaign. All I tweeted. That's it. I did not say, how dare they? They stole from me. Ooh, they owe me all this money.

I said, we didn't license to him. Then people start attacking me saying, you're stupid. You're a moron. People who write for various conservative websites, high profile individuals and lawyers with millions of followers, people associated with Ron DeSantis' campaign saying I was stupid, I was a moron, I was an idiot, that's not how it works. How stupid

is Tim Pool, etc, etc. These are not random people. These are high profile personalities supporting DeSantis. And I'm sitting here confused like, all I said was we didn't license to him. And so I tweet again. I'm like, people aren't getting it. They tweeted out our video, just our video, nothing else, saying paid for by the president. They're lying.

They did not pay for this. And then people start claiming, how dare you? They're saying that they paid for the ad. I'm like, it's not an ad. It's just our video. They're tweeting our video to people and with the tag on it, paid for by DeSantis. There's no context. There's no statement.

There's nothing added to it. They wrote, we're coming for your children, which is the quote from the video with paid for by DeSantis. There's no context. There's no statement. There's nothing added to it. They wrote, we're coming for your children, which is the quote from the video with paid for by DeSantis. It doesn't say, this is a commercial for DeSantis for president. We're seeking your approval. Here's a clip you should watch. Nothing. It's literally just our video. All I said was, they didn't pay for it. The absurdity and the insanity that I see here is, for one, you tweeted me all day and night about how I'm stupid or whatever. I don't get the point. Do you want me as DeSantis supporters to go onto my show and just insult his campaign?

Because all it does is generate hatred and animosity between someone who otherwise should be supporting DeSantis. How about instead of screaming and shrieking like banshees, you simply just say, hey, we're going to reach out to you. And, you know, what's your what is your ask? So I actually reached out immediately after after like I'm getting hit up by people who are like, hey, they're using this footage without without credit, without attribution. And there's actually so like we have lawyers. There are questions about whether or not a political campaign can fair use news coverage without attribution and my understanding is they cannot even they can't make fair use claims i didn't i didn't attack them i didn't scream at them i was like i was like hey look man i got people hitting me up asking me like if we sold this to you because if we did i'm gonna

i'm gonna end up owing money to people so i don't like that you guys are saying paid for by desantis if it's just this clip and they're like yeah no worries man like we'll sort things out totally fine but these people online these high profile influencers support desantis it it's just this clip and they're like yeah no worries man like we'll sort things out totally fine but these people online these high-profile influencers support desantis it seems like they're trying to burn his campaign to the ground all they're doing is trying to make it's like you were saying i guess ian you know i would agree with you to a certain extent it's almost like they're trump supporters pretending to be desantis supporters to hurt his campaign i would i tweeted that i would ultimately believe it except some of the people who have been coming at me in the past literally do work

for his campaign. All I can say is that that's where we're at for now, but the bigger picture here outside of the personal context with us is the fervent zealotry and support of DeSantis is going to sink him. His polls are down. His predicted market stuff

is down. Yo, if something happens that makes DeSantis look bad, he needs to be realistic and personable and address it in an honest way. And that's how he wins. But the course that they've taken over the past 30 days shows exactly why the prediction market is showing a decline, exactly why his polls are dropping. Yeah.

Did they at least use a watermark on that? Nope. So... Just cop the footage. There's a lot of questions about it. Some people are like, Tim said he wants everybody to have it the other day and he didn't care. And I'm like, there's a difference between my opinion of this should be seen by everybody, that's why

we do it. And I have an arrangement with a contractor who retains rights over that footage outside of what we want the footage to be. That has to be answered for. even then i'm like you know we're going to talk with a lot and see how he wants to handle a lot of these things i'm not here to pick fights with everybody to insult him but there is a legal precedent my understanding right now just just for clarity's sake for the people who are saying it when you see political campaigns and it shows like a clip of a news anchor saying a thing they show the title of the segment or the or the date and the publication.

They have to attribute it when they do these things. Right. And they certainly did not. The other thing people need to consider so I can explain fair use to you guys. News organizations are largely exempt from claims in this in this manner. There is varying degrees of arguments on fair use. If you produce a news segment as a news organization for the purpose of monetization and licensing,

people can't just take it and use it. However, if it's embedded on Twitter, you can use that embed in your articles, and that's what people do. You cannot download the footage and re-upload it to your organization. And some organizations that we like, conservative ones, have done this. And yes, we have been in discussion of we're going to request licensing fees for that. So, you know, it's like, how do we be reasonable people in support of those who would spread around news that we want them to spread, but also make sure that, I'll put it simply.

If an independent reporter covered this footage, if Elad was working by himself and did not work for us, he would have made substantially more money. We cannot have a reporter work for us who is in the end making less money. It makes no sense. So as an independent reporter, he has the license to this. He can go to anybody and say, you owe me X, you owe me X, you owe me X, you gotta pay. And he'll get it. As a large organization, we front the costs of the trip so that he reports

under our brand. However, for what reason would he have to do that if he's just gonna say, but then I don't make any licensing fees? No. We respond with, we'll let you retain licensing fees, and if we license it out, we'll send that your way, but we get effectively the brand recognition. So the important factor here is it's not fair use when the footage is produced specifically for the purpose of licensing and for news reporting.

There's other arguments about if someone writes an article or references things and you're commenting on it directly, totally understand and agree, and these things have to be adjudicated. A judge will determine whether or not it was fair use or not. Fair use is 100% always copyright infringement. It's just whether or not you'll fall under the exemption. Just to be clear, just my final thoughts on this. I am not saying my demand is that DeSantis should have paid me for this. That is not what I'm saying. That may be Allad's position.

All I'm saying is people came to me and asked me if we sold this to them because it says on the video paid for by DeSantis. I understand people are saying political ads reference who it was paid for legally, and they're not saying that video was paid for by him. I am saying it is creating confusion in the marketplace. And so all I did was issue a statement to clarify, as I'm supposed to do, and I'm getting attacked by DeSantis supporters for it. Yeah. And the clarification's incredibly reasonable.

I would say probably a lot of the backlash is just people being completely ignorant to the entire process of paying for flights, sending out a reporter, going out there, getting it, all this stuff. Fair use doesn't just mean somebody can spend all that money and you can just cop it

and put it on your cable news network without any credit at all, without paying, anything like that. I know you said it's not about the money there, but I think a lot of people don't understand all that goes into getting this footage and then having it reasonably credited as well. I'm personally not super concerned about credit, the money and stuff, but that's not my rights.

Elad retains those rights to a very large degree as per our agreement with him, which means if he's seeing stuff he's produced be sent far and wide, typically on his own when he reports, he sends an invoice like, hey, I own the rights to this, you gotta pay for it. Now he's operating

under our banner, that doesn't change. So if he says he wants licenses for this, it's not whether we want it to happen or not. It's whether he does. And I think he's a reasonable guy. So we're not no one's trying to start fights or anything. I don't want to harp too much specifically on that point other than to clarify it. My point in the bigger picture is for the people who really like DeSantis, please look at the replies to my initial tweet.

So you can understand exactly why his polls are dropping is it it is an absurdity for me to be like we didn't license this footage out and then just have high profile people with a million followers effectively you know just insulting me for no reason they could have been like thanks for the clarification tim that's it instead they're just creating threads insulting me like crazy so i'll you this. If your goal is to get me to really dislike his campaign, okay, I guess. But simply put, my opinion on Ron DeSantis is not predicated upon what his fans do or say, but the people associated with his campaign, who have also engaged in what I would say is detrimental behavior to his campaign.

But I fear the reason why his polls are dropping is because he's surrounded by people that will defend him no matter what he does. They'll keep telling him he's right no matter what he does. When the when the video. Let's do this. Let's jump to the story and we'll talk about this one. We have this from Timcast dot com. Gays against groomers official resigns following DeSantis ad slamming Trump's previous LGBTQ supportbtq support i actually i say to this very clearly i i think ronda santos does deserve credit on going after the weird grooming stuff and targeting of kids and to uh to a great degree that that criticism of donald trump is is to a certain degree fair

i do think it is unfair to uh categorize donald trump support of your your average lgbt person as the same as what r DeSantis is fighting, which is groomers. So there's a point to be made there. But ultimately, there was backlash. Ron DeSantis ended up getting flack from log cabin Republicans. We now have David Leatherwood

announcing his resignation from Gays Against Groomers because of the ardent support the organization's leader has for DeSantis. This has been not good for DeSantis. The DeSantis campaign has been very divisive on on many of these issues and uh my ultimately my point is desantis then goes on tommy lorenz show doubles down on all of this and what and the result is increased backlash ron could have come out clarified and, maybe we're a little strong. You know, I don't want I don't want to conflate groomers with LGBT American citizens who want to live their lives.

Instead, he goes, no, it's totally fair for me to do this. Trump did this. It seems like he's not getting good advice, that people aren't explaining to him like, hey, you have a large coalition of people who are LGBT who support Donald Trump and will will support you because they may be gay but they don't like the groomers don't ostracize the people who do like you but ron goes forward anyway and it results in stories like this i think he's listening to sycophants and it's hurting him and it's and it's tangible you see in the polls yeah so what can we expect we expect him not to win the primary do you think that because ron is looking to to attack trump from the right do you think that the lgbt issues are going to be something that he's not going to be able to get a broad message that his campaign and his base will accept because i feel like whoever is going to be the Republican nominee needs to at least tolerate LGBT people, like gay people and probably trans people to some degree.

Obviously, it needs to be prevented from being instructed to kids and needs to be taken out of school curriculum and you don't want to have... It's the grooming stuff. Yeah, the grooming stuff. It's the political stuff. But do you think that DeSantis is going to be able to lock that kind of stuff down

without alienating LGBT or gay people? I think that's pretty easy to point out. No, it's not that it's hard, but will he be able to? Will he be able to successfully do it? Yeah, if he's coming from the right. If Ron DeSantis is adamant on attacking Trump from the right,

he'll lose. That's just it. And I think that's largely what it is. You know, we were talking about this downstairs. You know, we were we were hanging out Seamus, Destiny, John Doyle after the show. And we were talking quite a bit about it. And I'm like, what we're seeing here with the Trump versus DeSantis is DeSantis really does represent the old guard Republicans who are angry that Trump stormed into their party and took over and they see an opportunity with DeSantis to win it back. Unfortunately, it would seem that to a great degree,

many of them lack the tact to pull it off. Yeah, so the zealotry, the anger, the I can do no wrong attitude is exactly how you end up losing this internal conflict. Yeah, when you're working against Donald Trump, if you want to defeat Donald Trump in an election, think of him as a non-newtonian fluid if you're familiar with these like cornstarch and water right now the harder you hit it the more solid it is if you if you go slowly you use heat you can push through it like a liquid that is that is a hard 20 and you roll the 20 right that's amazing i i see it exactly this way the response from the desantis

campaign has been full force as hard as possible, and they're hitting a brick wall. But if they went slowly, they'd slip right through. If their response to a lot of these issues was just pure authenticity, directly assessing the issue, talking to people about their concerns and clarifying issues, would be that status would be defeating trump in in a prediction one way i think that he could i'll in one second is that phil to answer your question can he pull it off can he can he get the support of the lgbtq plus community yes if he focus if he reminds people straight people can be groomers too it i'm i'm here to prevent grooming of children i don't care who you are what your sexuality is where you came from what colors you love i don't care don't groom these kids in my schools that's i think the

message because you gotta you gotta push against the straight people too that are grooming and how how you know look yeah i i don't understand i i perhaps the issue is desantis believes he's in it for the primary and that's all that matters which means screw the moderates what he's ignoring is that or and maybe they're trying to recapture neocons into the democratic party i suppose i can't imagine how that would that would make sense because a lot of these lincoln project people have just embraced leftist values donald trump brought moderates into the republican party vox.com called trump a moderate so of course trump came out in support of lgbtq americans had gay marriage was a settled issue. And that was like a year after gay marriage passed, like right around this time.

So Trump absolutely attacked the Republican Party from the left in a lot of ways. And it worked. He brought in many people who typically wouldn't vote Republican, who did, with the help of individuals like Scott Pressler. The Republican Party was able to bring on more registered voters than the Democrats in some states for the first time ever. The idea that you're going to go back to how the Republican Party was before and attack Trump from the right is a huge mistake. What I was saying about DeSantis a year ago,

the opportunity he had was to be nice Trump, to talk about the same policies in the same way, but be tactful, youthful, and energetic. Instead, it seems like he's taking the harder right approach, which I just see as not viable. Yeah, I think most people... Maybe I'll be wrong. Most people see him as doing a fantastic job in Florida, of course.

A lot of people praise him for that. He did a fantastic job. However, this so far, from what we've seen him interacting with the public and everything like that, one, I think he's surrounding himself with maybe not the best people i i'm not gonna totally generalize because i'm sure he's around some great people but yeah just not a lot not the best team and then also the campaign i mean correct me if i'm wrong but it just seems like a glorified version of low energy jeb yeah it's it like nothing about it's exciting

nothing about it i don't i don't i don't like that you know a lot of people keep trying to pull the jeb card on desantis i disagree he's way better don't get me wrong but but it's the the campaign is is more rabid than that yeah it seems like he's trying to use trumpian tactics but he's not trump and he doesn't get that he's not trump and he can't pull it off. Yeah. And the opportunity was to not be the aggressive Trump, but to have Trump's policies. That was the mean Trump. And now he's like,

just attacking Trump. And he's, look, it's not so much the campaign, but to a certain degree, people associated with the campaign. But for the most part, it's his base.

Whatever he's cultivated, for whatever reason, are sycophants. He does something wrong. What do they do? do so what and i'm like well that's not what we're i'm not i'm not interested in my personal and to be fair trump is this is very very similar in that regard it doesn't work 100 percent i my personal feelings to win an election is you make your opponents irrelevant they're not the focus of your campaign if you're if you're talking about them you're giving them free publicity this is what what Hillary did to Trump in 2016.

She kept talking about Donald Trump and how horrible he was and kept giving him fuel. And now DeSantis is doing the same thing. Perhaps that's the goal. The DeSantis supporters want these stories to exist so that his name gets mentioned more, I suppose. I'll show you this. Over at the Predicted Market, Vivek Ramaswamy, take a look at this, entered the contract June 28th from three cents. Now he's currently at eight.

Vivek is now in third place in the prediction markets for the Republican presidential nomination. He bypassed everybody. That's impressive. Tim Scott, even this is this guy's not a politician. He's a young guy. Yeah. As soon as people hear him speak, just even for 10 seconds. Oh, who's that guy?

I like that. You know they they love listening to him so i think just the more more people hear his name hear him speak everything like that that number is going to continue to skyrocket what he's saying is really resonating with the american people yeah his message and regardless of what actually happens for where he lands uh in regards to actually running or whatever um just him being a part of the conversation and the topics that he brings up which make the other people that are running at least in be marginally informed which is one of the things that i want a lot more out of trump i want trump to understand the the policies that he's talking about because i feel like a lot of the policies are written by other people and he just kind of is the guy selling them um and so i think that it's really

really good that the fake is is you know a third and is going to be on the uh on the stages he's really concerned with getting money out of like black rock and putting it into indexes that don't invest in woke stuff or don't invest in esg particularly yeah i don't i don't know if there's going to be stages oh you don't think they'll do... Why would Donald Trump debate Ron DeSantis? Clicks, baby. It used to be that you wanted a large platform to spread your message.

We got it. Social media. Don't need it. Yeah, I agree, man. 2006, I agreed with you. That old age of debate on a stage with a point. Hold on. The moderator doesn't do anything anyway. That's done. It ended in 2006 with internet video. Trump in 2015

was something special. Those debates were something special. It was amazing. CNN. Vivek would probably do pretty well in something like that. Like you said. Trump will call him Rama Swampy. I did not come up with that.

I can't remember. I'm sorry. I'm not giving credit for the person who came up with that. But, you know, to be honest, he keeps calling Ron DeSantis DeSanctus, and it's the stupidest nickname ever. DeSanctimonia? Ron DeSanctus. He calls him DeSanctus now.

DeSanctus? Well, the reason I say it's not. It's not. Things changed drastically in 2006. And I was speaking internet video. I was making YouTube videos about it. Like, now we have the technology for world leaders to communicate without secret service present through Skype. They can talk directly to their constituents without secret service present from their bedroom any time of the day.

And CNN was like, oh, hell yeah, let's do the YouTube CNN debates this time. So in 2008, CNN got their fingers into it, and they had very carefully curated videos from YouTubers that they would give to the people campaigning Obama, Hillary Clinton. And I asked one about the Federal Reserve they didn't use because they were carefully – it was CNN curating it. But you could see that CNN was on their heels. They didn't know how to respond to this new political populist uprising and new technology and they still don't if they think that i mean they didn't even have debates last for the last election they didn't even debate they didn't even debate what the first time in american history that biden did even debate once i don't know yeah they didn't did the democrats yeah they debated they did but the republican democrat did he they wanted more what they did too they had one yeah

there was one i remember being super surprised about biden being as on as he was and i was almost like in disbelief because oh yeah there was okay you know but like i thought he was sleeping to think that three debates is enough is like such an antiquated mentality they they should be every week if there's two front-running candidates they should be for the betterment of people, of all of us, of humanity, talking every week in public. Just a couple minutes ago saying that it was good that there was not going to be any debates,

and now you're saying that there should be debates every week? Well, no, I was saying that the methodology of debate has changed drastically since 2006, since internet video appeared. So we don't have to wait until they get on stage on Thursday at 8 p.m. and all clap together. The video's online forever now. Because they're talking smack on Twitter back and forth. And they get on stage on Thursday at 8 p.m. and all clap together like the video's online forever now. Because they're talking smack on Twitter back and forth.

And they can Skype. They can debate over Skype. They don't need to even be in the same room now. So it's so easy to do. It's hardly the same thing, though. We really need to see the debates. I'd rather see a Skype debate than no debate, but I agree with you. Having them in person is important.

Are there people that actually make up their minds after watching a debate? Like actually waiting for a debate and then saying, okay, I'm going to vote for that person? Are there actually people that do that? Yeah. I think it's only slightly different these days because of the internet. Because you've heard the messages

because the news has been more ubiquitous. I got to be honest. Does anybody think DeSantis can handle a debate with Donald Trump? I don't know. I don't imagine he could, personally. I think he would do okay, but to answer your question, I mean, no. I don't really he could personally i think i mean i think he would do okay but but to answer your

question i mean no i don't i don't really think anybody can not even the moderators i mean he is he's he's tough to hammer down yeah we made this point when we were watching the primaries back in uh it was like 2020 with the democrats andrew yang's mic got turned off and you see him just kind of like mouthing but not doing anything and they're like oh whoops and i was like if that was donald trump he would lean over to the other person like excuse me excuse me my microphone is off you gotta turn it on it's i need to say it i think if you're gonna be if you're gonna beat trump in a debate you need to ignore him while he's bloviating and while he's trying to insult you just be like this guy and then keep talking about what's important and just let him be like flames in the background

from the friction. But if you turn to him and start playing his game with him, you lose. Because he's the best at it. Yeah, you don't want to don't engage with him. I don't know about

not engaging with it. You need to understand how to counter. Dismiss it, yeah. To deflect, to parry. I think people just have no clue what to do when he's in that zone.

Because not only is he just coming after you left and right, but he also oftentimes has the audience kind of interested. Everybody's honed in on what he's saying, on his jab. When he captivates the room. I'll tell you this. It's not a debate. This idea of a debate where it's like two people say, like, let's discuss the merits of, you know, U.S. intervention in Ukraine. Well, I think the problem here is, but we have a treaty here. Like, that's a debate where it's like two people say like let's discuss the merits of you know uh u.s intervention in ukraine well i think the problem here is but we have a treaty here like that's a debate being on stage to win political power is a show one of the greatest shows on earth and donald trump wins the debate when he makes you laugh at his opponent so you can go on

stage and donald trump can talk about're going to have the best tax policy. It's going to be very good. And then Ron can come out and be like, look, I'm leading this comeback and I think I did a better job. Nobody cares. It's when Donald Trump says, the psych this is a little bad.

He's a meatball. You know what I mean? Look at him. He's a meatball. Everyone's busting out laughing. And they're like, yeah, he's a meatball. That gets the vote. A lot of people want to believe that the American voter is above that.

But most are not. A lot of them are. But you got to understand this. George Carlin said it. Imagine how stupid the average person is. Now realize that half of them are stupider than that. So if Donald Trump is looking at a voting base of you know potential let's say 100 75 million voters he had before he's looking at total voter pool around 150 200 million

he knows that 100 million of those potential votes are going to be people who are going to laugh about meatball rum and he does not need the smarter people's votes because voter turnout is low donald trump needs arguably 70 to 80 million votes in the general now now again i know no no slow down primary is a bit different same same principle applies he can sit there and be like i can make the best argument in the world and win over the top 10 of the bell curve or i can make a joke and win over everyone from 51 and down yeah i have mixed feelings about that because you could go the hard emotional gutting of Donald Trump if you really want to play dirty, like talk about his daddy issues.

His dad didn't love him. His dad was like a businessman that just treated him like a commodity. But you got him like you really you could hurt him emotionally. But like, but is that the way? But you got to win the hearts of the people to like, everyone's gonna be turned off by that. Yeah, but look at him. The reason he's the reason he's lashing out is because he doesn't his dad didn't love

him. And like, then the crowd's gonna be like, oh, and then Donald's going to start getting red in the face. That is why he's lashing out. If it's too dirty, it's not going to win the hearts of the people. You've got to be honest. It's funny. It's truly why. You've got to make people feel good in a way that makes you look dominant.

So when he was like low energy Jeb, and Jeb's like, everybody's busting out laughing. And they're like, yeah, Jeb is low energy. Look and jeb's like everybody's busting out laughing and they're like yeah jeb is low energy look at him it's still funny it makes trump the bigger man in their mind it makes them feel good at the same time and they're like we need someone like that to push people around for us yeah someone that can fluster somebody you could fluster donald too also you have all these people like not in a way that makes people like i'll put it this way there are many people who could roast donald trump and and get it done right ronda santos is not that guy vivek ramaswamy is not that guy tim scott is not that guy nikki haley certainly not that lady i don't see anybody in the republican field who's going to have the ability to make people feel like they're strong they're good and trump is

diminished at the same time trump has that unique ability he hasn't done very well in the past couple of years in 2020 he could have done way better with body did a bad job with it that's why i said 2016 2015 was something special with the primaries and with hillary uh will we see it again from trump maybe it's out of him maybe maybe he's not he's not all there we've seen a little little little bit of it come back but i'll tell you this right now wherever trump is currently at in terms of his showmanship desantis is nowhere near that's just reality yeah and if they if they get offended by that desantis supporters if desantis campaign if they can't handle that critique then they deserve to lose if they listen to what we're

saying and right now begin to work on that specifically they will win perhaps yeah i think one problem with biden that trump had and if he stays in that everybody's gonna have with him is he's a really hard guy to make a jab at because like we were just talking about something that makes people laugh it's light-hearted all of that it's tough to make fun and successfully deliver a jab at a grandpa with dementia it just doesn't look that good it looked a lot better when he did it to hillary clinton but not to joe biden people kind of feel bad for joe but i really think they do i really think they do i i think donald trump should have gone after biden more so than he did i think he did a relatively bad job in 2020 he i mean yeah i think joe i think he

yeah the sleepy joe all that's great, but I just don't think it resonated as well as it did with Hillary. She was a lot more on her game. So when she gets shut down, it's way funnier than some guy that can barely speak. And she's nasty. Yeah, she was kind of snaky. When Trump makes fun of her, people laugh.

That's a big factor. I still think Trump should have been like, Oh, crazy Joe. What's that story, Joe? too. I still think Trump should have been like, oh, crazy Joe. What's that story, Joe? You're touching little kids. You're touching your legs. They're gross. It's creepy and weird.

You're right, Tim. It is a popularity contest. And it's an entertainment game, which is terrible. It shouldn't be that way for the commander in chief of our military. It's been that way since TV was invented. Radio, yeah. Not TV. Well, Hitler used radio but i guess they had it was because the thing i'm talking about is is when nixon and uh jfk uh did their first

televised debate if you listen to it on the radio people were saying nixon won if you watched it on tv nixon looked like a mess he didn't he didn't shave yet it was five sweating like crazy looked bad and everyone said that jfk won so the way that people see you like when the way you look when you're actually in the debated it goes far beyond just the the words that you say and that's that speaks to the way that we communicate more broadly people don't just listen to the words the look on your face matters if you're looking in the in the eye also smiling all sorts of things so when you're when they're debating those things go into it too trump trump's funny man he's hilarious so when uh i went to the white house for the social media summit with bill ottman i i didn't know what to expect i thought it was gonna be like a kind of like a round table thing what was it trump doing stand-up i'm not even kidding he's got all

of these influential people sitting around him trying to talk about the issue of censorship and he's just up there speaking about it but it was like it was it was it was political humor it was political comedy it was him talking about the political issues and then snapping jokes and looking and laughing and the room was just laughing non-stop that's how the dude commands an audience that's that's how he wins you gotta like look, like, look, you can talk, you sit here all day and be like, policy is the best way, and it wasn't the primary. It's like, good luck with that, dude.

Good luck. I'm not saying Trump's still got it, though. We'll see. It's yet to be seen. Because he might not even do a debate. My understanding is he's probably not going to do a debate with DeSantis. And that's good news for DeSantis, but maybe Trump can't handle it. I wonder if they totally realize that

for his campaign, Trump's campaign, just because you know how often he's been going to restaurants, buying everybody food, the Blizzards, ordering everyone Blizzards, all that stuff. I wonder if they see that really working and resonating with people, because you get that guy in a crowd, and like Tim's getting at,

he's going to perform. He's going to perform. As long as he has a crowd around him, people are going going to love him i feel like he hasn't stopped doing rallies yet like since since the last time he was president i feel like he's been there was a period where he was gone okay yeah and then he's come back and now he's been doing rallies and they've been funny they've been funny man it does feel like the only way to defeat that kind of debate is to is to undermine is to really go at his personal life, like really hurt his feelings. And I do not like that. You said defeat him in a debate, you said?

Yeah, if you want to make him look silly and debase him, make him off balance, you make him remember his horrible childhood. The problem is Trump weaponizes self-deprecation. This idea that you're going to insult his family and win support is wrong. Trump calls Jeb low energy he doesn't say your father was a scumbag like he said George W. Bush your brother lied to us that's not the same as saying you are an abused child

who was neglected and that's why nobody loves you because people go dude come on low blow he's like you're low energy Jeb low energy and people are laughing and they're like he is please clap come on well you could call him low blow trump like that's his tactic is low blows but that's see the issue is the delivery really matters as well nobody delivers like trump does so you can get a jab in and that's great and it can be spicy but you're not going to land it like donald trump but it's not it's i just i don't think it's going

to work right what can you insult Donald Trump on? His age. His old man Trump. Freaking 80. And you know what he's going to do? His raspy, withering voice. He'll say he's a vibrant young man. No. That's what he'll say.

His wig, whatever, his dyed hair, his orange skin. You keep saying that and you are, and I will tell you you're wrong. I'll tell you what,

because you'll be on the debate stage and you'll say, listen old man, with your moosed up coif, weird raccoon haircut, he'll be like, certainly better than your hair. And that's saying a lot.

You should call him Drain the Swamp Trump. And they'll say, you're an old man who'll be like, aging like fine wine. Better than you when you like milk.

So go after him about how he drained the swamp. Drain the Swamp Trump. I can help you, Ron. I can give you- I was seeing this episode of SpongeBob. I appreciate it,

but Tim is spot on on that. I mean, he'll deflect he's a professional trump made fun of him he's also 80 trump made fun of himself for being orange he was at a rally famously and he was like the lights they're making me look too orange it's not fair and everyone busts out laughing he knows how they insult him and he uses it yeah but no one's ever going after him with his relationship with his dad yeah but it's not it's meant to hurt his feelings. And it won't work!

How do you know that that is something... Fred Trump? The business magnate? Trump, over and over again, they wouldn't shut up. It had zero impact. If Donald Trump's going to play dirty and insult people, then you better expect... You've got to get creative and insult him.

It's the only way to hurt his feelings. It's also entertaining for people. dirty and insult people then you better expect you got to get creative and insult him i mean it's the only way is to hurt his feelings that's that it's also entertaining for what makes you think that that is going to hurt his feelings i mean that that's because he hasn't thought about it in a while and it's true how your magic how do you know what he's thought about like i'm trying to figure out like how it is the new york times says someone's familiar with his thinking so what was that the new york times has written many articles about people familiar with his thinking that's what that's kind of that's what i'm coming for it's like like i feel like you're making these assertions but i don't know where you're basing this this opinion of trump's internal monologue or is it his internal like a sense of self-worth

i like but i don't know that that i've read that his dad would bring him to work and insult him in front of people and and what's going to happen is that's not funny. It's not meant to be funny. It's meant to be entertaining. And that's the reason Trump succeeds is because he is funny. Get it? Well, he's entertaining. He's also a dirtbag sometimes.

He's hilarious. To some people, he makes jokes. He comes out, he makes jokes. But it's entertaining no matter what you say. So he's looking to win over his base you're not going ron desantis is not going to win voters by being this nasty guy to insult a person you do it very gently it's it's and you move on man you just let it resonate has anyone seen that episode of spongebob where they're like doing this talent show and squidward's out there doing this crazy dance and no one is clapping but

then spongebob goes out there with a broom and he's sweeping and everyone's like going nuts that's what reminds me of kind of like he might do something he might say that and then people would just be like you're kind of a jerk yeah we're assuming that he would have a strong solid delivery he would deliver it kindly it would be a disaster one because they sold joe biden or whoever you're talking about here as being just a kind person not trump and then what he comes out here with a nastier jab than donald trump and he's talking about ron desantis i was talking about a desantis trump debate that's what i've been talking about the whole time imagine sorry sorry sorry yeah yeah desantis um but well i guess same thing applies then so if if he's gonna deliver deliver that and that's like, okay, get tough on Donald Trump and be mean to him and that's all great.

I don't see the benefit of really, really, really being nasty to Donald Trump. When you're trying to win those voters, keep in mind. It would be a jujitsu tactic in that only if Trump went at him personally or comes at me or comes at someone personally, then you maneuver it to cause him emotional pain. And then you just continue on and let him shake you know okay they they all tried coming at trump and nobody could pull it off because this is trump's arena the idea that you're going to insult him and win votes over is just it's it's absurd i mean every republican is exact tactic in during the debates it's like 10 of them and they all try yes doing this yeah yes that's how he insulted Jeb Bush. He insulted Hillary Clinton.

He insulted all. And there are MMA fighters. Didn't Chris Christie do that? Absolutely. And there are MMA fighters who are undefeated. And you'll say, well, their tactic is to use Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, so you've got to use it against them. It's like, oh, that's funny. They still lost.

Oh, I agree with you that there are no capable performers in the political arena right now. Maybe AOC. Donald Trump's by far the most entertaining, whether you like him or not. Fast, witty, funny, and in the political arena right now maybe aoc maybe no donald trump's by far the most entertaining whether you like him or not um fast witty funny and in the right way maybe vivek actually vivek ramasamy is way smarter and faster than trump he could rip that guy to shreds you know he might on policy yes i think he's a billionaire man better if we're if we're talking about just a quick jab against trump i think he'd probably be better than desantis maybe agreed but i'm just i'm just throwing yeah yeah yeah i think i think he'd probably be better than DeSantis, maybe. Agreed. But I'm just throwing... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you imagine? Yeah, I think he'd

actually be better at it. I want you just to imagine this for a second. Donald Trump on stage, and he says, you know, we look at Ron DeSantis. Little Ron, I call him his policies no good, disloyal. And then Ron goes, Donald Trump's father didn't love him and would ignore him

so daddy issues over here has a terrible time of understanding. Everyone's going to be like, whoa. You say it directly to his face. You look him in the eyes and tell him. And people are going to be like, ooh, dude. They're going to be like, ah. And then it'll go viral. 60 million views.

Trump's going to do something where he's like, 10 million more votes. This guy's a boss. He's willing to stand up to Donald Trump. I love how these things were tried and all failed and you're like they'll happen now it's like well no yeah i don't think my problem is there's all the with with your with what you're you're thinking is that you've got all this assumption and all of there's a lot of like you're telling this narrative about if you do this then this will happen and this will happen and the the possibilities are almost infinite after step one like everybody's plan like runs into reality and then it falls apart

and you're making so many assumptions the reason i'm like what you're thinking he's gonna do and what people would do and what the santas could do and and just there's a lot of like you more telling a story than actually thinking about something that's realistic to try to navigate. Everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the face. I've had some experiences where I've had friends in the past that would make fun of me or one guy in particular and I was like, stop

and he would never stop. And then one day I was just like, your dad did not love you and you turned into a real asshole and he stopped. He was like shaking after that and he never messed with me again after that. You were talking to Trump? No I was talking to my buddy and his dad really did abuse him when he was mean to him when he used to call him names and stuff and I'm like that's why you act like this

and he stopped after that. For how many years? I also had a person that would smack me and I was like if you do that again I'm going to smack you back the exact same way and it happened again and I did it and then I never got smacked again. Was he much bigger than you? It was a girl actually and she never smacked me after that she was hurting me so i was like please stop she wouldn't stop for years they called donald trump drumpf to insult his his his father's grandparents etc

that did no is the tactic is when they insult you in the moment right away you hit you strike back in a way that makes them out of the moment. Let's imagine this. They're trying to throw this guy in prison and we think this is going to be the thing that's going to take him out. I mean, realistically, they're not going to let him win. I want you to imagine Donald Trump calls Ron DeSantis, little Ron.

Little Ron is disloyal. And then Ron immediately turns to him and says, your father didn't love you. Everyone's going to be like, what? If he did it like a stodgy suit, yeah. If Trump cried or something, then it's not going to happen. Trump's not going to cry. It'll deflect off him

body armor or something. It'll deflect and it'll be nothing. We can talk about it all we want. Trump's response is going to be something like, Ron will look and say, you know, your father, he didn't love you. And it clearly shows. Donald Trump will start laughing.

Look at little Ron over here trying to come at my family. It's sad. Really? Is that the best you've got? He's going to completely bounce off him. And then he's going to be like, the only thing DeSantis can muster is insulting my dad. How sad. Disloyal.

Not even loyal to people's families. It's exactly what you'd expect when you vote for diswamp this blah blah blah blah blah like my point is this ron does not have nobody it's not about ron desantis like no one in that field of war that 16 gop contenders could do anything to get anything to stick to this guy like ro'd be like Rogan. If Rogan did it to Trump, Rogan could humiliate Donald Trump. Louis C.K. could humiliate Donald Trump. People like that. We don't have a politician like that. I do agree with you there.

Yes, he could humiliate Trump, but in terms of what Trump is working on and fighting for, these things don't work against his base. They don't work against those who would vote for him. Oh, I disagree. I think they're cultists. I think they go where the hilarity is. They go where the funny is. Ian, look, the story i told over and

over again my experience traveling this country during trump's first campaign and his second campaign were people saying i can't stand the way he talks i wish you would stop tweeting these the average person who voted for him was not in a cult and did not like his brash attitude. Insulting him in the way he insults others does not work. I mean, it hasn't happened yet. I think it's a bunch of 4chaners that want entertainment.

They put him in office because they thought it was funny. It was a Lahlbert move. Well, that's not, I mean, obviously that's not the case of who put him in office. It's not just a bunch of 4chaners. It was a lot of memes on 4chan

that got him elected. Not solely, you're right, but It was a lot of memes on 4chan that got him elected. Not solely, you're right, but there's a lot of goofball kids that were disaffected and were making fun of the whole thing. No, it was a lot of Americans that were sick and tired of being called racist

every single election for the last decade. And they wanted something to change. And they were seeing Republicans doing absolutely nothing while they get screwed in every direction. That's why people voted for Donald Trump. It wasn't just a bunch of 4chan trolls.

It's certainly not monolithic. It's a bunch of what you're saying and what I'm saying. There were definitely kids like Nick Fuentes that were like, Hitler's, he would say like Hitler's, he thinks Hitler is funny because when he grew up, he's so disenfranchised by everything. He just looks at what triggers people and he's like, I'll do that because it triggers. I see what you're saying, but that extreme part of a base that you're talking about is much smaller than I think you think it is.

Nine million Obama voters voted for Donald Trump. They switched from the Democratic Party for Donald Trump. Those are the people that want entertainment. If you think you're going to win a general by attacking those individuals, it ain't working. But let's do this. Let's get cultural, and we'll wrap up on a cultural segment. We have the story from the Post Millennial, and it's good news. Left-wing media seethes over success of anti-child trafficking film Sound of Freedom.

The movie tells the story of Tim Ballard. All of you know it. I'm a big fan of the film. It was absolutely fantastic. I recommend that you check it out. But oh boy. Reports from left-wing news sites Jezebel and The Guardian have tried to discredit the hit release Sound of Freedom, linking it with conspiracy theories. Do we have the tweet from Jack Busop was over here let me show you this one he says in plain sight

rolling stone says sound of freedom the q anon tinged thriller about child trafficking is designed to appeal to the conscience of a conspiracy addled boomer and then there's from rolling stone thanks to a major marketing mistake the award-winning French movie Cuties was accused of sexualizing young girls. It's actually a sensitive portrait of growing pains that deserves to be seen. That's who these people are. They're groomers. Yeah, Sound of Freedom is doing really, really well.

And of course, we're seeing leftists get absolutely upset about it. But this is good news across the board because it shows that we are winning on cultural grounds. We're winning in the arts. it shows that we are winning on cultural grounds. We're winning on in the arts. It's not about conservatives winning. It's about people pushing back against the creepy woke cult establishment garbage.

Winning as a whole or just getting a win? Winning as a whole. I just watched this. If you look across the board, right, you can argue that the left holds, let's say you have a country and there's like 12 battlefronts, 12 counties or jurisdictions, and the right only controls six of them. They're winning that fight, gaining ground and spreading. Even if the left holds more institutions, they are losing control of them. Fair. And I don't want to sound too negative right there.

I was just curious of what you were talking about um but like target starbucks sound of freedom for sure for sure no no i mean we're definitely on the offensive move right now when it comes to people that just are sick and tired of the like woke elite that dominates all these institutions all of that um i do have to admit i haven't seen the movie yet well it just came out yeah i am gonna watch it and i do know is it not based on a true story the mormon guy true story there it's it's based on a true story there's some embellishment in it fbi am i getting this right homeland security homeland security uh you might have been ice i'm not sure in x right so he got out of it he quit because they he wanted to save the kids and he couldn't you know in it working for the government right so based on a true story and that appeals to q anon conspiracy theorists i mean that's they just thought of that and they said okay this is what

we can do to get the general population away from this movie even though it's performing really really well i mean it beat out indiana jones on its opening day right yeah indiana jones had opened over the weekend and and then it was a Tuesday that this movie came out, but it beat it on that Tuesday, so it made like 10.8 million where Indiana Jones made like 10.7, or something like that. But Indiana Jones made 80 million over the weekend.

Right, right. That's still, I mean, it's still doing fantastic, obviously, but that's... That's... I think that they really just wanted people to kind of not dig into that story. And that's not the first time I've seen them bring up QAnon. Rolling Stone, they weren't the first people to repeat that narrative. It's a QAnon movie.

Yeah, I've seen it all over Twitter already. Like a bunch of people are talking about making some kind of connection to QAnon. I don't think that the average person like i don't think q anon resonates with the average person the people that have about 15 minutes to watch the news a day you know 20 minutes or whatever they grab like they watch a little bit in the morning a little bit in the evening when they're doing their life um i don't think q anon i think they hear that and it's in one year out yeah it was only because of outlets like this that I knew what QAnon was. Because I heard it thrown around by people tweeting stuff like that.

I'm like, what is this? Panic. Was anyone talking about why Disney held on to this movie for, what did they have the rights for? Like five years? I believe it was already made. Five years? Is that correct? For Sound of Freedom?

Yeah, it was made five years ago. And, well, I can make some assumptions as to why it couldn't get released. Let's hear it. Because there are groomers in Hollywood and pedophiles in Hollywood. And you make a movie about ending child trafficking, and you'll end up with some Hollywood executive being like, Oh, harumph I say. Well, what about what I want to do when I fly down there right so um let's just say based on what we know from uh some individuals who produce documentaries about hollywood the trafficking the abuse hey let's

talk about um elliot page who claims to have been uh assaulted you know uh in this industry yeah they made a movie about child trafficking being bad and wanting to end it and then the big networks were like the big studios were like-oh, we shouldn't let people see this. I'm going to go ahead and make an assumption as to why that is. Yeah. I was just watching RFK Jr.'s interview with Lex Friedman on Lex's channel on YouTube.

And I saw about half of it. But at one point, RFK Jr. was talking about Project Mockingbird, Operation Mockingbird, the CIA taking control of media in like the 60s and 70s. Then they were ordered, I think it was a church commission, where they're like, you got to stop.

And they're like, okay. But RFK was like, I don't think they really ever stopped and he was naming outlets that have been co-opted by the cia or that are assets with these daily beast was the first one then he mentioned rolling stone magazine yeah right away and then i see rolling stones the one that's trashing this ever since ever since the 2012 ndaa was signed the what is the Smith Munt modernization act was in the NDAA and that made it legal for the federal government to propagandize the American people in 19 after World War II the Smith Munt act said that the American population cannot be propagandized by the federal government and it was in response to what they had learned that the the nazis and the soviets had done before leading

up to and during world war ii and the federal government you know the people were like look the federal government shouldn't be making decisions about what the people think right the people the government should be a reflection of the population not the population a reflection of what the government wants and that's borne out in the way that governments have treated their populations when their population doesn't act the way the government wants them or it doesn't behave the way they want them to um so that that the the smith modernization act was in 2011 and ever since like the narrative coming out of the mainstream media has been the exact narrative that the Democrats want. You had all of the time that Barack Obama was the president basically setting up this this apparatus.

And then when Donald Trump was elected, the deep, the deep state, the entrenchedrenched bureaucracy it was already in place already prepared to discredit anyone that would try to pull back the power from the federal government and obviously that's the you know the conservatives if one of the parties is going to make the government smaller it is not going to be the democrats i'm not trying to convince people that the republicans are yeah good or they're going to be the Democrats. I'm not trying to convince people that the Republicans are going to be good or they're going to be, you know, small government or anything. That's not the argument that I'm making. But the federal government has been propagandizing the American people in conjunction with Rolling Stone, Teen Vogue, Cosmopolitan. And again, this is something that I brought up on this on the show before you will get the same type of uh stories

in cosmopolitan in gq in teen vogue in good housekeeping and in probably in maybe not field and stream but i wouldn't be all that surprised because there is no significant difference in opinion because the narrative from almost all the mainstream is the narrative that the federal government wants to be presented to the american people that's the way that is the narrative that the federal government wants to be presented to the american people that's the way that it is and that's the way that i see it now amen brother teen vogue praising marx yeah i love that's hilarious did that actually that actually happened that actually happened what did they say they were talking about was it like a month ago right no it was a long time ago oh okay okay okay yeah they put out an article like marx

was misunderstood or something like that it was actually really really funny it's kind of scary you know you know but funny at the same time teen vogue it's like young women getting fashion advice and information on uh supporting the proletariat and overthrowing the uh the the elites and then is this is this from 2018 carl marx the famed philosopher and author of the Communist Manifesto. Can you imagine calling like Goebbels a famed philosopher? Like, honestly, like Marx is responsible for millions and millions and dozens of millions. His ideas were responsible for dozens of millions of deaths in the 20th century. At least the word infamous. They should have said the infamous philosopher.

No, because they're supporting him. You know what? I'm going to take a stand. Infamous is not enough. Infamous is not enough for me. He was a terrible guy, too. When you guys were talking about it, I almost chimed in. There's a lot of... Infamous is how you describe Al Capone. Not somebody

whose ideology was the reason for dozens of millions of deaths tens of millions of deaths all around the world yeah and it was just the idea that everyone deserves a little bit it was the idea it was the idea that man can be perfected because you cannot have a utopian society where everybody works and puts in and produces equally and gets out right from the government equally what so what the plan was was to remake man into new socialist man that could be considered a socialist man that is a social being it was a very popular idea in the late late part of the uh uh 8 18th century i think it was 19th century um yeah but it was it was nichi was talking about it too because he had like so he wrote the uber mench

yeah the uber mench the overman uh thus spoke zarathustra was the book um but the idea was that you know darwin had had put out his his uh origin of species and and people were understanding evolution learning about evolution and starting to understand that and the idea was we had conquered religion man had conquered religion and man now could understand science and we could use science to remake man into the new man that's the modern man that doesn't need all the old uh you know the the old old ways and the old religions and stuff and it it just ends up with people dying and mass because you can't make people not people it sounds like you're talking about transhumanism it well i mean it's it transhuman is kind of aim for that yeah it is an extension of the same type of ideas. But the point of socialism is to have a socialist world, like a communist world, where nobody has anything more than someone else.

So the abolishment of class, the abolishment of property, so that way no one has more than someone else and everyone has equal things. But the problem is people have different capabilities. People are born with different attributes. People are taller. People are slower. People are faster. People are infinitely different. So to think that people are going to be able to put in and take out equally is ridiculous.

So the effort to make people equal, the only thing you can do is take from the people that succeed. Hold people down. Because if you've got a person that's incapable of doing something, right, just... Well, that's incapable? You can never make them capable.

You have to find the people that are capable and take away their ability. Easiest way to explain it is you can't make the grass grow, but you can mow the lawn. Yep. That's perfect, yeah. Right, and that's it is, you can't make the grass grow, but you can mow the lawn. Yep. That's perfect, yeah. Right, and that's what they do.

So, cut off the tall grass. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com to support our work directly,

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So support our work. All right. I'm not your buddy, guy, says. I think we can all agree the left is far more extreme than the right. Now that the right seems open to separation, I wonder what the left with their lists want to do. Interesting. All right. We'll grab some more super chats.

Voice of the People says the federal involvement was exposed with the Proud Boys case. 50 plus federal informants were found instigating and judge told the jury they can't use that information to make a decision. Interesting. Waffle Sensei says,

Tim, in regards to the video from Timcast News that Ron DeSantis said he paid for, it was paid for. Ron DeSantis paid the editing guy to overlay paid for by Ron DeSantis on it. That's actually the argument they are making. High profile individuals with tens of thousands and a million followers are saying that the edit to put that on it was in fact what they paid for. And I'm like, come on. Yeah, because if I paid for a billboard and put your picture on it and said paid for

by me, that would be so disingenuous. Cause I didn't pay you for that image. I just took it and used it. But it's like, it's just our video. And it says paid for by, it's just our video.

Like, what are you like? What? That's the argument they're making. They're like, well, by, by adding the text that he paid for it,

it is officially true that some, they paid for someone to do that. It's like very circuitous. Like there's no commentary on it. There's no like there's no statement about it. There's no commentary whatsoever. There's not even like a gibberish. So one of the arguments about fair use, this guy took photos from people on Instagram, blew them up into big portraits, and then wrote a comment underneath that said

like HS, HS, HS, HS, HS, like nonsense. And a court ruled it was fair use. It was fair use to, in fact, do that. Despite the fact that it was not really any words or thoughts, the argument was that was commentary transforming the piece. In this instance, by all means, you can make the arguments because people often, like you'll always make an argument on fair use. They'll always have have to the point is they didn't even do that it's literally just our video and it says the it says what the it's a text of what the people said and

it says paid for by you know what it reminds me of is the real donald trump ad where it shows fake donald trump but it says real donald trump but it's ai generated images it's just misleading and this seems like it's misleading because they didn't pay you for the clip. And then the response on the deepfake thing was, you think people actually believe that was a real photo? Do I believe? I know people believed it was real. I'm not saying I did, but they're being disingenuous.

And they're like, that doesn't mean that they paid you for it, Tim. I'm like, yes, but people think it does because they're texting me, asking me if I sold this to them. So I hit up the Sandisk people and I was like, hey, guys, why is this happening? And they're like, oh, whoops. Yeah.

So like my conversation with the actual like actual people who work there were like, let's try and figure something out. I'm like, cool, appreciate it. But the people online are insane. So it's really funny how like the end result might be that they reach back out to me and say, yeah, we'll clarify for you, man, and we'll send a license your way or something, a license fee. And then I'm like, cool, really appreciate it. Thanks for the support.

And the people online turn it into this nightmarish, psychotic attack. It's like, okay, make yourselves look worse, I guess. Right. All right, we'll grab some more super chats. What do we got? Based Jew says, I've been watching your skating clips on Instagram, and damn, you have that thing called diamond feet. What is that, diamond feet?

Just a couple of clips. We were filming the other day. I did a no slide, 270 shove, but it's like 120 degrees. I'm not exaggerating. Literally 120 degrees inside the barn. Yeah. Whoa.

Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yep, it's just an oven. And so it's like, whenever I would try and do this trick, because I've been trying to do a bunch of things, but it's just, it's brutally an oven and so it's like when whenever i would try and do this trick because i've been trying to do a bunch of things but it's just it's brutally hot to try and skate in there and that's our indoor park so i'm like we got to figure it's not insulated so we can't like put ac in it or anything but in between attempts the trick i would have to go outside

to breathe because the air was so hot you i couldn't breathe that's how bad it was i'm like that's not the half pipe room no no that's downstairs and that's cold there's a i'm still seeing everything i saw james dropping in on the skate park on twitter real james clue that's right man oh yeah that's right oh yeah drop drop the small the small ramp but um oh cool yeah dropped in successfully didn't do much else other than that but i was proud of that that's doing a thing not dying i didn't die i didn't do much else other than that but I was proud of that that's doing a thing I didn't die and I put a helmet on too smart

alright CrookedSmile says Tim why the hate for Final Fantasy 16 was it the gameplay or the story please no spoilers though the story is the most basic one dimensional kind of boring thing and it's nonsensical honestly it's just really bad and uh

gameplay what gameplay wasn't it mostly a story it's mostly cut scenes yeah that's like disappointing i'm not kidding like the first part of the game um it's it's a dejected story storyline time timeline wise uh so it's a bit confusing in that regard and uh it's mostly cut scenes so uh mostly cut scenes and then the most annoying thing is like in typical video games you have the main quest and then you have the side quests final fantasy 16 has side quests but they also force you to do side quests so there are quests in the main storyline that are absolutely side quests they make you do where it's like you have to run back and forth between two people five times and i'm like why and and it's just like hello clive i would like to tell you about what your father once said to me and i'm like okay skip skip skip skip skip then it's like

okay i must go talk to this guy now about the same thing and then you run around the building you find the guy and then he's he did his skip skip skip skip skip then it's like now i must go back and report to to auto what i found and i'm like why i don't want to make a video game like that now just for fun that and you play one guy and i'm just like man so people are saying yeah but it's it's action it's not turn-based anymore dude secret of mana was was at was was action rpg that game is so good i know and you switch between one of one of the three characters you have and you can have them do abilities and it's real-time fighting there have been a ton of games that have them do abilities and it's real-time fighting. There have been a ton of games

that are hybrids of real-time and turn-based with multiple characters. This game is just, you go into a fight and you just mash square and then you mash square in R1. That's the whole game the whole time. Final Fantasy is really known for a ton of cutscenes though, right? Like it'd be maybe a quarter of the game

or half the game even possibly. Is this one just over the top as well? I think this one's over the top. It was funny because people were like, Tim, you're in Story Mode. I am not in Story Mode. I'm playing Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West. So Forbidden West and the expansion Burning Shores came out.

I love that game. And it's got a bunch of woke elements that I think are really just annoying, but it's like a good game. How do you defeat the bad guy, like the monsters in this game? It's like, well, they're giant robots, so they have weak spots. You got to knock armor off.

You have different weapons of different elements. It's rather complex, and you can formulate different strategies for how you do it. I totally love going for the sharpshot bow, which is like sniper play style. When I play games like Fallout, I prefer sniper builds over aggression builds or like tank builds or anything like that final fantasy

it's it's like there's one sword you get you never spend any money there's there's no point in having money at all none so it's just like i i beat a boss i go to the forge upgrade sword that's it the only thing you ever do sort of like you you get item from boss the story is so incredibly weak i just went to look at gameplay footage while you're talking and i the first three i just clicked around randomly on the video and the first three i went to were all cut scenes and there's another cut scene cut scene cut scene i cut scene cut scene i'm not going to spoil the game cut scene but another cut scene i i could i could have like i still think it's really weak but i feel like i could have written a better ending uh because the like and that's not saying a lot i'm not saying i'm a good writer i'm saying the ending was so

incredibly one-dimensional comic book villainy to like golden era like i'm the villain it's like what's happened at disney it's the same company name square enix is a company that it's square and enix they've merged at some point but it's not the same people that square enix is a company that it's square and enix they've merged at some point but it's not the same people that worked there in 1993 that made final fantasy you know four that were final fantasy six these these epic you know world changing games final fantasy seven was like one of the greatest rpgs ever made i think i still have one for the super super nintendo six but they call it three in the united states and i I have Chrono Trigger, actually, as well. It was a similar guy.

That was the same company, Square. That was before they merged with Enix, I think. Yeah, yeah. Chrono Cross wasn't as good. Secret of Mana was multiplayer. That was one of the great... It was like... Someone else could control the other player. And then they...

I don't think Seiken Densetsu came out in the United States, but that was the next Secret of Mana. There were multiple games. I think we only got one. I like Secret of Evermore. It was very similar. These are action RPGs. This is all SNES, right? Is that what you next Secret of Mana. There were multiple games. I think we only got one. I like Secret of Evermore. It was very similar. These are action RPGs. This is all SNES, right?

Is that what you're saying? Yeah. The other stuff you're talking about is probably on Super Famicom. Yeah, because they didn't come out in the United States but we got them. We got them.

Because I love Secret of Mana so much. You got the ROMs. All right, let's read some more. We got SoulNative says, Phil, have you heard Anne Berlin's new EP? It's beautiful and gritty.

Steven has such a unique voice and I would highly recommend it. Great work, Tim. No Luke, I puke. No Hannah Clare, I burn my hair. Well, all right. Have you heard the new EP? I have not heard it, but I'll take a listen.

Anne Berlin's a good band. Right on. Cool. Let's grab some more super chats. What is this? Luke MP says, Tim, please shout out my neighbor, Nicole Howell's GoFundMe. It won't let me share a link. She's been battling cancer and they are struggling to pay medical bills and their rent.

God bless. Love you, Ian. Let's see. I'm going to lose up. Nicole. Hopefully, I'm trying to type in Nicole Howell. GoFundMe. Let's see if I can find it.

Is it Nicole's Medical and Everyday Expenses? Nice. Perhaps. I just think, you know, you never know because there could be like a bunch of different people but I searched for it

and it says she has breast cancer and I don't know if this person has one. I'll probably donate to them anyway because they have cancer but yeah, shout out. Hopefully,

you know, look guys, this is kind of why I'm more on the universal healthcare camp of things because it's like, I just don't think that hey i'm dying go fund me to support me is the is the way we should handle it but i understand

it's a fair point that this is a private market where people can choose to support someone if they want you know so forcing people to donate isn't the appropriate approach but i kind of lean towards like i don't know if you know like someone's dying so we go to go fund me to try and save their life is the right way we handle things also a lot of these companies in the united states they're using us to make their money so they can give negotiated and affordable prices to other countries as well so we just get the short end of the stick in every way shape and form yeah why should go fund me because someone's got cancer yeah you think like the american medical association would have a donation process or something like that at this point i mean no fees but the american government would like the thing

is like it doesn't matter what the what the thing is gofundme is taking 30 percent no they don't is it that way is it way less depending on what what it's for i believe they take a smaller percentage if any percentage at all so if it's for if it's for cancer treatment i'm pretty sure they have something for lower i don't like go fund me as it is gifts and goes the better one yeah they take 2.9 plus 30 cents and some of that's unavoidable so like even for us to charge five percent with our members like there's no matter what you do they take a cut is taken by credit cards excuse me drew outstanding Drew Outstanding in Field says, God's children are not for sale.

Hill, I'm willing to die on. Hear, hear. And that's what I was saying about the movie Sound of Freedom is like, even if you're an atheist, you understand the concept of what it means to say God's children. The idea that the media is like, this is a Christian film. It's like, dude,

you don't need to be Christian to understand the concept of God's children just means in general, the children christian to understand the concept of god's children just means in general the children of the world the children of humanity you know i understand christians probably mean it much more literally but i'm saying like the ideas in the film don't need religion behind them for us to agree that they're bad things but apparently for rolling stone and a lot of these companies man they really they're creepy people how many religious movies as well look at the stamp of approval from, you know, all these elite media companies and Hollywood and everything like that? I mean, you could, you know, be listing that off for a day.

But for this one, I think it's particularly offensive to them just because of the issue that it's focused on. Yep. I don't know. Well, I think it infringes upon their predilections right you know so that you know we can't hollywood can't be uh you know is it is it people someone someone commented like tim's waking up or something in reference to me saying this and i'm like dude i'm pretty sure everybody knows for like a very long time that hollywood has been abusing children yeah like these accusations have been around for like a decade or longer probably but they've been

prominent for around that long how old is cory hayne right yeah exactly seriously 50 i'd love to have him over let's grab some more super chats feldman feldman cory hayne is dead yeah oh yeah cory feldman but i saw that when cory feldman put that documentary out of paid to watch it fucked up we'll grab some more here h music's uh h music says, the best part of Karine Jean-Pierre's statement is that the Biden family left the White House at around 6.30pm on Friday. So when she's like, they're not here on Friday,

it's like, well, you know, they were most of the day. It's just lies. It's all just lies. Alright, Seve Rose says, my conspiracy theory. Since it's cocaine and not crack, I bet Jill Biden asked the Secret Service to plant the cocaine in the White House just to see how hunter would respond dr feel good jill you can call it dr feel good now andrew ho says dan bongino gave a great short breakdown saying it had to be uh a protectee

to bypass security in the white house he should know being a secret service on presidential detail for bush jr and obama exactly because i was saying this too i was like someone who doesn't need to go through the normal screening process and and i'm just some guy then dan bongino said basically i'm like hey look at him he knows better than me he was actually there so you know doctor take his word for it yeah where are we at also if they're changing their story like three times before you get any level of truth there's something there's something wrong right clint torres says wasn't there already a show called my son hunter i don't know huh we will grab more it was a movie with um wasn't it my son hunter with uh oh yeah robert davi right yes there was a movie with, wasn't it? My Son Hunter with Robert Davi, right?

Yes. There was a movie that came out. Lawrence Fox. Oh, yeah. John James. Jackie says, the show should be called The Wilmington Hillbillies. Hunter is Jethro. Naomi is Daisy Mae.

Jill as the spinster from the bank. The Wilmington Hillbillies. There you go. Asior says, the Koch will be blamed on Kamala. She resigns. Enter Newsom. Then impeach Biden. Kamala she resigns, enter Newsom then impeach Biden, enter Newsom 2024 turns into Newsom re-election

too circuitous you know what, you don't think he's going to run? I do, but the idea that they impeach Kamala appoint Newsom, then impeach Biden so Newsom becomes president is just absurd well yeah, that's too many levels there

they would find a straighter path than that yeah silver knight says rfk jr will be the biggest bait and switch in history don't drink the cool lady still a democrat when he runs against trump the media and all the democrats will fall right behind him i wonder if that's the same for desantis too the it's the zealotry that really gets me the people i I, you know, resonated a lot with were at the, during the Trump years was stop making me defend Trump. Because like in 2018 and 19, I'm just like, I'm not voting for this guy.

I'm not a big fan, but seriously, that's a lie. Okay. You know, there's things I'm critical of the guy over. The economy is doing well, but like, that's not true. And there were a lot of people I knew who were like that. And Trump supporters were respectful of that position. Overwhelmingly, they were like, we get it, as long as you're telling the truth.

Now you have the DeSantis people who are acting just like Democrats, twisting, lying, smearing, and playing dirty manipulative games. I don't want to have anything to do with that. And they're doing it to RFK, too, so we'll see. If you think he's a Trojan horse, check out that Lex Friedman interview with him and see if you still think that after an hour. Sorry, I was just going to say, I think what a lot of people are criticizing is like oh stop fawning over him because he's still a liberal but i i think to tim's point or just in general i

think a lot of trump supporters don't really care about that that much if you're anti-establishment we kind of got something in common there yeah trump was a liberal democrat in the early days anyway no one cared about the party he was throwing my mind that that he was democrat on the democrat ticket um didn't really see that after reading some of his books and stuff rfk well yeah but gun control stuff in the past i guess i didn't read enough but yeah he's running as a democrat for a reason right or at least aligning that way you know i dig the fact the fact that the establishment doesn't like him, but that's where the stuff that I like about JFK stops. All of his policies,

I don't find anything that's liberty-focused. There's a lot of talk about the Libertarian Party because he went to Porkfest and he spoke up there. And it's like, he's not a libertarian. So if you're a conservative or if you're small government minded that that's not kennedy and at all so all right the moffinator says it's almost as if tim a man who makes his living and runs companies around making media content would understand how copyright laws work absolutely in fact not only that but uh i actually made an app with a buddy of mine

10 years ago called Tagly, which we got to bring back. So, you know, Isaac, I hit you up. We got to bring the app back. What the app does is it's a camera app. And when you take a picture, it instantly includes time, date, location and custom text. You can customize what appears so you can make it so that it only shows the date, only shows location, only shows, shows custom text, or for some reason, none, which you already have a camera, so you don't need to. And it works on video as well. So you'd record a video, save, and then it would instantly render the video with, with in the bottom left corner, the, you know, time, date, location, and all that stuff. So we got to bring that back. Uh, the, the point of that, it also, one of the components

that was in the works was it would create what is effectively these days a cryptographic key. At the time, we were all excited about this technology where it would create

a digital fingerprint which would be unique to the photo and it's like effectively an NFT. And the intent was that a reporter on the ground who takes a photo or video would have definitive proof and the means

of stamping their videos instantly. There are apps where you can pull a photo or video would have definitive proof uh and the means of stamping their videos instantly there are apps where you can pull a photo in drag text over type in what you want and then press render right you can't do that when you're on the ground filming stuff right so we do want to bring this back but my point is this not only do i know how copyright law works i have successfully uh sent cease and desist letters and gotten content taken down from people who have stolen uh my works it's been doing this for 10 years. I've gotten paid. I had one major network send me several checks for using my footage without permission. And it is really simple. Often they'll use your footage. You'll send a letter saying, thank you for using my footage.

However, you require a license. They respond with how much you say here's my standard rate because you didn't give permission i would like x they say no problem sir the check is on its way it's usually resolved very very easily that's right what people don't understand about fair use is they're like i can take any news footage i want and just use it okay you can't take documentary footage from netflix and just upload it to Twitter. You can, in some circumstances, fair use this. Fair use is always copyright infringement, and you can always be taken to court over it, and then you need to justify why it was fair use. There is one big limit to fair use when it comes to news. Did the person produce the content specifically for the purpose of

licensing out and distribution and if the answer is yes there's no fair use sorry getty uh corbis which was purchased by getty and these other big uh uh these other big libraries you can't take a stock video from getty and say but it's fair use but ai can even even no they're getting sued over this. I hope so. So I'll give you an example. There are many photographers who tweet out their photos and then license them to major news networks. You will be sued in two seconds if you touch that photo. Two seconds. Because even though they published it on Twitter, they expect to sell a license for it. it if it was true that you could that you could fair use anyone's news footage raw footage there would be no independent or freelance reporters they couldn't exist because anything you put out

instantly could just get used under the under fair use yeah there are arguments to be made over what the limits are so direct commentary on things that are public do have strong protections my point ultimately with the copyright thing, DeSantis, is I'm not even literally saying that they should have paid me. I'm just saying we didn't do that arrangement with them. That was the clarification. But there you go. I love talking about copyright stuff. I have been

in many legal circumstances. Typically they never go to lawsuits and usually they're resolved with no problem, man. Hey, sorry this happened. Everyone's really nice about it. And they just write you a check. So anyway, moving on. We'll grab some more super chats.

RDC says Vivek is awesome, but if he got in there, I believe he would be sucker punched by bad the corruption actually is, by how bad it actually is, and be roadblocked like trump was in 2016 i somewhat agree but i don't completely agree i do think he will reach he will face unexpected uh conflict but i think he would not act the same way i think vivek would handle it very very well if you heard his story if you watch the culture war podcast we did with him this is a man on a mission they besmirched his good name and honor when he tried doing everything right you know basically his story was that uh they wanted him to write some like pro blm thing and he wrote this fairly like hey i hope we can come together and overcome this stuff then they came to him and said no that wasn't

good enough do more and he was like what are you like i'm i'm i'm i'm doing it what are you why are you coming at me then they started attacking him relentlessly. People started resigning. And then he was like, we've got a very serious problem here. Right. And so it seems like two things happened. He recognizes this crisis in the United States when it comes to ESG and wokeness. And he was personally offended.

So I don't think he's going to go into the White House if he does, which I think is a long shot, if i think is a long shot if to say even a long shot i don't think he goes in and falls in the same traps as trump because trump thought he was gonna be able to compromise and be a typical president but i do think vivek will experience things he doesn't expect because he's not a politician yeah we will grab some more super jets nuka taco says phil every presidential election has been a popularity contest not just jfk george washington andrew jackson ulysses s grant teddy roosevelt fdr just to name a few

that's right yeah i know did george washington run against somebody my point about you were talking about the show the the kind of yeah just the way that people saw when people can see the actual people that are running like on on a on a wide you know a broad it was like the introduction of entertainment to politics yeah spectacle for sure you saw it stump speeches way back in the day too everyone there was you know it used to be about like you'd read about what they said in the newspaper that was the majority of but considering it's democrat our our presidents are democrats at least somewhat democratically elected they are almost all going to be popularity contests because the

popular you know one is going to probably get most of the votes ian i have to read this one pk says ian have you ever went the wrong direction on the interstate and when you realized it, you just kept going? No. Oh, my gosh. I think I did that on a road once, but pulled off. I'm glad you pulled off. That's funny. Yeah, but Trump says, I actually believe that Joe Rogan could humiliate Trump, but not for lack of trying. It's a Donald Trump thing, not a Joe Rogan thing. Yeah, I don't like it either.

I don't like the humiliation. But that's politics, man. See, the issue is, let me explain something to you guys. Imagine a high school class and somebody farts. Then someone else goes, yo, he farted. He's like, no, I didn't. No, I didn't. And then everyone starts laughing at the guy who farted, right?

Now imagine the guy who goes, hey, everybody, check this out. Lifts his cheek and was really loudly and then everyone goes oh he starts busting out laughing being like smell my fart you see the difference is the guy who tries to hide it is embarrassed it happened the other guy is subjecting you to it that's how i see trump trump is the guy who subjects you to his fart and laughs about it seriously as opposed to the guy who secretly tries to hide it wasn't me oh no i'm so embarrassed so like how do you make fun of a guy confident exactly yeah how do you make fun of the guy who secretly tries to hide it. He says, it wasn't me. Oh, no, I'm so embarrassed. So how do you make fun of a guy? Exactly.

How do you make fun of the guy who's wafting it over at you and being like, revel in it. There's nothing you can do about it. You can't mock him for it. He loves it. Yeah, that's why I go dirty. Does he get dirtier than fart jokes? Yeah, I go at their family life

and try and really hurt their emotions. But I only had to do it as a young kid. My friends were brutal to me. Like growing up, they'd be like trying to dominate, you know? And I'm like, I'm not letting you do that, man. The reason you're doing it is because you came from a broken home. So stop. All right.

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And sip, sip. I had Roberto Jr. this morning. And it's like, when I was drinking taste test some night have little little snifters of a bunch of different coffees and sip sip i have roberto jr this morning and it's like when i was drinking the appalachian nights i was like this is the best coffee ever and then this morning we switched to roberto jr and i was like oh this is the best coffee ever it's just they're both cast brew.com i mean crossland oh i just i just i sincerely mean it like i can't help but just chug this coffee i i haven't tried it yet um i'm definitely gonna be trying it though yeah i gotta i'm gonna back to back some straight black coffee I can't help but just shug this coffee. I haven't tried it yet. I'm definitely going to be trying it though. I'm going to back to back some straight black coffee.

The Sleepy Joe and the Unwoke are coming really, really soon. Oh, then we'll do the taste test when those arrive. That sounds fun. Bye guys. I'm Ian Crossland. Follow me anywhere on the internet. And we got Kellen PDL. Yeah, you guys can follow me at Kellen PDL. I want to give a quick shout out. Last Friday we had a super chat come through of a TimCast community member that is coming out with a video game well that game came out today on steam called

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