Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #814 Biden INDICTS Whistleblower Who Exposed Biden Family Corruption w/Natalie Winters

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Kellen join Natalie Winters to discuss the DOJ indicting the Biden Family Crime Whistleblower, Biden staffers saying Biden is always angry, Elon saying "Zuck Is A Cuck," and... the smashing success of Sound Of Freedom. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I guess it's unsurprising to report this story. The DOJ is filing multiple indictments against the whistleblower who alleged Biden received payments from the CCP. That is to say, the Biden administration is going after the guy blowing the whistle on the corruption in the Biden family. Is anyone shocked to hear that story? Considering what they're doing and going after Donald Trump, I am not surprised in the least bit. So we will talk about that. Plus, we've got a bunch of other stories. Oh man, this one's hilarious. Jack White, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:27 he's the guitar player from the White Stripes. He's losing it because there's a video of Joe Rogan meeting Donald Trump and shaking his hand. That's it. Joe Rogan at UFC shook Donald Trump's hand, smiled and they talked for like 10 seconds and that was it. And he's got this post about Mel Gibson and all these people. We definitely got to talk about Trump derangement
Starting point is 00:00:44 syndrome. We're going to talk about the presidential election. We got to talk about what's going on with the Bidens and Ron DeSantis. There's some fake news about Ron DeSantis where many people were claiming that DeSantis argued Trump colluded with big tech and that is fake reporting. DeSantis said Trump should have fired the intelligence agencies that were doing this. There's some nuance here whether or not Trump knew, but I can say the media is lying about it. So we'll definitely talk about that. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and purchase Cast Brew Coffee.
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Starting point is 00:02:03 show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is natalie winters hi thank you so much for having me so who are you what do you do i am the co-host of steve bannon's war room this is my second time on the show here and i used to be an investigative reporter at the national pulse it's really convenient you're here too with this biden doj stuff because you know a ton about it meant to be absolutely right i feel bad for the guy but yes yes good for the audience and good for you guys yeah we'll talk about some other cultural stuff too we got some fun stuff to talk about we got hannah claire uh hanging out hey i'm hannah claire brimlamo writer for timcast.com and i am ian crossland what's up everybody good to see you on this beautiful monday let's get ready yes it is a good day what's up ian what's up everybody
Starting point is 00:02:43 it's kellen i'm filling in for surge tonight let's get started here's the story from the post-millennial doj announces multiple indictments against whistleblower who alleged biden received payments from ccp affiliated individuals i i just i love this story because it's kind of obvious it's just so on the nose like hey i'm a guy who says that there's corruption happening with Joe Biden. And then Joe Biden's like, you're under arrest. It's just really that simple. The DOJ has announced multiple indictments against Dr. Gallup Luft, the Israeli-American co-head of a Maryland think tank who gained notoriety as the missing witness in the investigation into Joe Biden's corruption. The New York Post recently shared a video of Luft wherein he broke down the allegations made against Biden and claimed that he'd been arrested to prevent him from testifying to the House Oversight Committee with damning evidence against the first family. Now, long after coming out as a whistleblower, Luft himself has been charged by
Starting point is 00:03:38 the Biden DOJ for allegedly engaging in multiple serious schemes involving the Chinese and Iranians alongside a former high-ranking U.S. government official. The charges include numerous offenses related to failing to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, arms trafficking, Iranian sanctions violations, and making false statements to federal agents. Wouldn't Hunter Biden have to do the same thing with FARA as well? But I don't know if there's more to this story or what's going on i don't know if you have a bigger view of this natalie sure well there is nothing more hypocritical than coming after him for not registering with the foreign agent registration act as someone who has read farah too many times i joke i'm probably the only american who frequents that website uh hunter biden's name is never on there even though it should be not just for china
Starting point is 00:04:21 but also for ukraine also for iraq also Russia. You name it, the list goes on. But it's important to remember that this is just one of several whistleblowers. If you remember, James Comer, who's leading these investigations for the House, he said that there were about 10 whistleblowers, seven of them. They don't know what happened to them. They just couldn't find them. Two of them had been indicted. And the other, if you remember, he was giving an interview. I think it was on Fox. He's like, we think they may be dead.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So keep in mind that even though the story is absolutely ridiculous, it's all the ridiculous more 10 times over because there are so many people like him. Have you guys seen that crazy video where the woman on the plane is like screaming about how the dude's not real or something? I don't know what that was all about. I read something where she said, like, apparently people were like like she claims the guy winked sideways or something like that i have no idea but i was watching that and after just seeing all of these different conspiracy theories at this point i'm like ready to believe her that like a lizard person was on the plan i'm
Starting point is 00:05:17 kidding by the way but but what i mean i bring it up because you hear this story and it's like well some of the whistleblowers may be dead we don't know where these ones are this guy's being criminally charged after calling out the bidens and you know accusing them of corruption and i'm just like yeah it's probably true like the bidens are doing this and they're panicking and frantically trying to cover things up because what's what's the simple solution here that all of these whistleblowers witnesses every story every video every claim every text message it's all part of some russian plot to discredit the Bidens. Sorry, probably not the case. It's so bold and it's so in your face. And I think it sort of proves in some ways the guilt of the Biden family. What I mean by that is that the same family that is so willing to issue indictments against people who are
Starting point is 00:05:59 obviously calling the whistle, calling them out for their actions with hard, cold facts, real evidence. Of course, they would be bold and brash enough to take money from the Chinese Communist Party while Joe Biden is in office and think they could get away with it. I think it just shows you the mindset of this family and frankly, how offensive it is to the American people that they think that they can get away with doing it and that people like us are dumb enough to just, oh, he's crazy. To be fair, like imagine what it must be like to be in the Biden family and you're getting all this negative attention
Starting point is 00:06:28 and they're going like the Clintons did it. Why are you mad at us? Like, you know, they- You're just following an American tradition. How can you take away our culture from us? This is our right as your elite. I don't understand. Yeah, the Clinton Global Initiative
Starting point is 00:06:41 and the Clinton Foundation, all that good stuff. Yeah. I think that the Bidens were looking at that level of influence peddling and Joe being fairly incompetent. I mean, to be fair, like fairly competent. He's made it pretty far. He was a senator for a long time. He's in politics for 50 years. So he's not completely bad at what he does.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But he's not he's not on the Clinton level. You know, Hillary Clinton, she's a special kind of witch. You know what I mean? Like she was able to pull it off. Congratulations to her and all of the awful things she did. But she got away with it. Well, remember, she had a special kind of witch. You know what I mean? Like she was able to pull it off. Congratulations to her and all of the awful things she did. But she got away with it. Well, remember, she chucked her hard drives
Starting point is 00:07:10 into the Potomac Hunter Biden, brought it to a repair shop in Delaware. And I think that sort of was the fuse that lit a lot of this off because the American, I think that's maybe too where some of the frustration comes from with the lack of accountability
Starting point is 00:07:24 and investigations and and really indictments at least from house republicans going after people who are involved in the whole hunter biden crime ring is because the american people are sort of getting this like sense of deja vu because through this hard drive through investigative journalism and actual media reports they've known about all this like gal left is a name who's been around for a really long time he's on the hard drive these are stories that are sort of just resurfacing and i think that's why it's all the more curious why they're indicting them now because gal left all these types were saying these things and have been for a very long time right the hard drive has been out there for a while we've we've
Starting point is 00:08:00 written stories war room has talked a lot about people like gal left all the other whistleblowers the names that are on the hard drive. So I think it's curious. It's like, why now? I think that same logic applies to why are they going after Hunter Biden on taxes now? Like, what's the time? Well, I got to ask for clarification. You said she threw her hard drives into the Potomac.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Considering how crazy the story's been, was that was that literal or you just mean figuratively? I guess a metaphorical there. But my point is... Because she had them smashed with hammers, the phone smashed with hammers. I guess it's too euphemistic to say they threw it at the... Oh, they're going to come up like fact-check calls.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I'm sure that at least one technological device that belongs to the Clinton family has been thrown, in some capacity, into the Potomac. I will go on the record with that. I think it's a fair assumption what we do literally know is that uh the hard drives were purged with bleach bit yeah and aids for the clinton uh for the clinton smashed phones with hammers to try and get rid of it doesn't do
Starting point is 00:08:56 anything by the way it's like the stupidest attempt at getting rid of data but uh yeah i mean that's exactly what they what they did so i wonder if the bigger issue with the biden's that they're just sloppy and experienced and incompetent when it comes to being corrupt. I think there is a lack of discipline there. Crack, we'll do that. Yeah, you think that's it? Yeah. Lack of familial leadership and crack cocaine really just ruins your ability to be a completely corrupt family.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I mean, we know in early June, Annapolina Luna tweeted about this FBI. The FBI is afraid the whistleblower will die if he is unmasked, which seemed crazy. And also we all laughed because it was like, are you saying you guys would attack this person? Like it didn't make any sense. It's exactly what this the simplest explanation is probably what it is, that there is some kind of internal pressure from the Biden administration to silence anyone who is going to oppose them or challenge anything they have. I mean, the Biden family lies to your face constantly. How many grandchildren does Joe Biden have?
Starting point is 00:09:55 Because he just pretends one of them doesn't exist. He has an extra one. Well, we don't talk about that one. Not allowed to use the last name, therefore not real. I mean, yeah, Hunter Biden's daughter. The legitimate kid or something? Yeah. Sorry, kid. it was it a prostitute it's a prostitute he then tried to like lie about like he had her he hired her to her found his foundation and he denied it there was a paternity test they just settled their um their child support case and one of the stipulations
Starting point is 00:10:19 that he had was this child cannot use my name i don't i will pay a certain amount of money for it but i will not acknowledge it anyway that's like old monarchy tactics they don't want to it's crazy so that's how the biden family views themselves that you were supposed to accept that even when it's completely confirmed that something is wrong you're supposed to ignore it because they asked you to seems crazy to me with the guy that they were afraid the whistleblower they thought was gonna die was that this guy they were like we whistleblower they thought was going to die. Was that this guy? They were like, we've got to hide his identity because we're afraid he's going to get killed. Is that the guy?
Starting point is 00:10:49 I don't think they clarified on that whistleblower. Just one of the ten? They said they were worried if the identity of the whistleblower got out, they would die. Sometimes the cohesion on the messaging from our dear House Republican friends, not always on the same level. Sometimes there's some confusion about who they're talking about but that had to do when they were unearthing new evidence about a whole pay-for-play scheme that had to do with Romania it wasn't explicitly linked to that pay-for-play because there's a lot of pay-for-play there's a lot of countries there's a lot of people involved but I also think to to your point why we've seen so many whistleblowers especially on on this front and this again is me speculating
Starting point is 00:11:25 but you know the whole clinton operation i think was very seamless and well run in the sense that the people who were in it it was a tight ship with the biden regime what what they were doing it seems like a lot of these people it wasn't so much ideological they were just in it for the money and you can see that on the hard drive you can see that in the emails emails. It was just we have a chance to exploit the vice president's son. And I think that's why you've seen a lot of these people sort of turn on the Biden family now, those that haven't been dissuaded by stories like this. And I think that might be why they're actually trying to come out so forcefully, because they know deep down the people like Eric Schwerin, the Devin Archers of the world basically all of hunter biden's you
Starting point is 00:12:05 know yale call eric classmates and peers and roommates they were just on the money team right it wasn't like oh we want to spread democracy abroad you know we want to do whatever the uniparty wants to do and all these kind of like no they just wanted to turn a profit and those people i think are very easily turned with the threat of oh well you're going to spend the rest of your life in jail if you don't tell us um so that's why if you do read through the headlines like a lot of these people behind the scenes have been complying with either off the record or on the record interviews with congress but it's sort of a painful process i think time-wise to let that work, let it work itself out.
Starting point is 00:12:45 My view of the Biden family is like, it's like a rest of development. Yeah. For real. You know, like Biden sat down with Hunter and he was, and he's just like, what did you do? And he's like, dad, I was smoking crack. I don't remember. This is so much. It's like the age of the internet because the Clintons didn't have the internet.
Starting point is 00:13:01 The internet didn't exist back then, really. Now it's all just people are finding it. People are finding out what's happening if this has gone on with the Clintons. Especially since he recorded himself. Yeah. Hunter in particular. Saying, I'm in business with the effing spy chief of China. But to your point, you know the Axios story that they had come out today where they're
Starting point is 00:13:16 like, Joe Biden is Mr. Strong. I just pulled that up. Screaming at everyone. I would love, again, I'm sure it's not true. He's like the old man in The Simpsons screaming at the cloud. I don't think he knows what's going on. I think mood swings are part of alzheimer's sure i don't want to give out bad medical information i do that says it in the in the article of dementia imagine though say take that story at face value imagine how he would be screaming at hunter biden let me let me pull this
Starting point is 00:13:38 story up from axios i just want to say that i got to give a shout out to axios for one-upping the new york post in their um pun game old yeller biden's private fury bravo axios solid had to add a little bit of insult to that so this look at this picture of joe biden i guess like it's like the dark brandon meme uh basically the gist of the story is very very simple private they're they're arguing that privately joe biden's screaming at people insulting them saying don't effing bs me get the f out of here and that uh they claim that if he doesn't yell at you in fact he doesn't respect you here's what i actually think no one is safe said one official there's there that one one one view of this is that they're putting this story out there to make it seem like Joe Biden is spry.
Starting point is 00:14:26 That he has some kind of fire. Because here's what's going to happen. A lot of regular people who don't watch shows like this, who don't watch clips of Joe Biden, are going to imagine him as this energetic guy being like, hey, you tell me, I'll tell you. Like, they are secondhand trying to convince us that Joe Biden's a hard ass. ass i'm not going to buy it because i've seen videos him falling up the stairs but this is what they're trying to do today he got lost on stage and had to be guided like it's not
Starting point is 00:14:54 great i mean also it's giving trump on the apprentice right like we already have a strong leader in politics there's someone else whose personality you said was too too intense for this i think what gets me about the biden family is if you're going to be corrupt, you have to secure your legacy for maintaining influence when you can no longer be in the public positions of power, right? So like, I don't know, but maybe the Clinton Foundation, for example, that would be a way to continue to have influence after the fact.
Starting point is 00:15:17 But right now with the Bidens, I don't know of any kind of nonprofit that they successfully run. There's no heir apparent. Obviously, tragically, Beau was apparently the best kid and also passed away first. And then we have his daughter and we have Hunter, who neither one of them are going to launch political campaigns soon. So it's not like the Bush family where there was a son, a couple of them coming up to the ranks.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I mean, if Joe Biden is really in cognitive decline, this is the end of them. So there is a reason. They would embrace the grandkid. Right. And they're. They need as many as they can get. Seriously. She's from she's from middle America.
Starting point is 00:15:53 She's from Arkansas. But I was going to say that there's nowhere to go. So why wouldn't everyone bail out on them? To your point, like they don't have any loyalty, loyalty to the power. They have loyalty to the money. I'd even link this story to to the power, they have loyalty to the money. I'd even link this story to the hard drive. And what I mean by that is when I was doing a lot of my early reporting on the hard drive, the people that I was working on it with, we would always sit around and joke, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:13 these are the stories that they're eventually going to use to impeach Joe Biden with, right? And if you saw the last two weeks or so, there's definitely been more media attention given to the Hunter Biden hard drive and what's going on there and the people who are involved. Even it cuts through the mainstream media occasionally. And I think that a lot of this media war that we're seeing duke out is sort of between the Democratic establishment like the DNC and Joe Biden in terms of trying to determine who the candidate is going to be for 2024 and i think a lot of the people who don't want joe biden to run again are playing up the hard drive stuff to try to take
Starting point is 00:16:49 him out of the running and i think this in some ways is maybe the biden camp saying like no joe biden is in control he's in he yelled at people my favorite by the best part of the article if you read down the bullet point where he's like he gets really mad at all the yale educated staffers using acronyms i was like that it's so fake it's so it's so fainting but i cannot remember the acronym yeah maybe you don't use un yeah like what does that mean i have forgotten he's probably just sitting there going huh what you oh and they're just like oh he's getting he's getting ornery again i would get frustrated if i were constantly confused, too. That's not fun. But this is the sad thing about Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:17:28 One of the signs of someone suffering from dementia is anger. Because what happens to the person when they can't remember and they can't understand what's happening, it's frustrating for people. You're sitting here and people are saying words you don't understand. You can't remember. And you're getting angry with yourself. Like like why can't i remember what they're talking about you just get mad you just outburst so this happens to a lot of older people when they get frustrated with being unable to deal with the situation because i mean for most of our lives our wits are about us our you know we can respond we can react sometimes you don't know things it's
Starting point is 00:18:00 fine but imagine knowing you know it but you can can't recall it. It's just so frustrating to lose that control. It's sad, really. But I got to say, as sad as it may be, a dude should not be president. Yeah, it's also, this is just like, I think it's a derivation of his actual personality, which according to, who's this, Jeff Knocton, a former Biden campaign and Senate aide,
Starting point is 00:18:23 chief of staff to Kaufman when he filled Biden's seat in the Senate, said that Biden was an egomaniacal autocrat determined to manage his staff through fear. This guy's got a reputation of being a real nasty guy. I mean, there's a video of him being like, if they are found with this much crack, you will serve. I don't know what his minimum years in prison was that he didn't do to Hunter when Hunter. I like that video because then someone cut it so that there are clips of Hunter Biden in between. He's like, you hear Joe Biden's voice being like, this is on, you know, you'll go to jail. Meanwhile, it's like his Hunter's home movies. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I thought that was a little bit. Doing crack while driving. Yeah. He's like smoking. You're like, I feel like if only your father could. Yeah, but come on, come on. Hold on. Could you imagine being Hunter Biden and you're driving down the street smoking crack and he's thinking, man, life is good.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And the Porsche is a nice new way to take a picture to make sure he saves that memory. But doesn't that like speak to the complete arrogance of this family that Hunter Biden could drop his laptop off at a at a just normal repair shop and think nothing bad can happen to me i am too important and too powerful oh i bet joe has said to hunter and i don't know probably i'll take care of whatever i got at hunter and joe probably gets off on that he's probably like i'm so powerful i can i can protect the weak no no i bet he loves it i bet i bet joe i bet joe goes to hunter and says you're a a worthless, stupid little piece of ass. He probably does that too. But I'll take care of it.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Don't worry. No, he didn't say that. The abusive and then savior. He says, the only reason I'm taking care of it is because I get the 10% cut. And don't you forget it. You think he's that straightforward with them? Absolutely. When there were those leaked messages where it's like, dad takes your salary or whatever
Starting point is 00:20:01 that was all about. What is that? Like Joe takes the salaries from his kids or something he like controls their lives allegedly and didn't this is something that his daughter referenced in her diary that got published right like that their dad is controlling that he controls their finances i thought it was a text message from hunter that said something like i think there is a hundred thing and i'm saying there's also oh yeah this thing in the bio which would mean that theoretically both of his kids are confirming that this is a controlled family which either means that he does not think his adult children can handle themselves or that there is a very strange imbalance of power in this family which might
Starting point is 00:20:33 explain again why there's nowhere for the biden family to go there's no one to take over there's no clear direction so when though they have uh garnered a lot of influence, ultimately people will bail out of the ship. Yeah, that's one way to put it. Yeah. Yeah. When people turn on the hated he there's one thing that we're missing with Joe Biden is modern video of him just being normal and talking to people like in a regular environment. It's all curated speech crap. Like I don't even know what his personality is like to be honest i've never really seen him chill and like have a long conversation because he just plagiarizes things yeah literally he dropped out of the 1988 run for presidency because he was plagiarizing got
Starting point is 00:21:19 caught plagiarizing man those are the days though you know you could literally say whatever you wanted because you couldn't fact check anything because he's like what are you there's no internet yeah and then someone was like hey that's the exact verbatim quote from this other guy he's like oh i'm caught that's the funny thing though what if biden was just like no it's not how are you gonna prove it the media would be like oh well it turns out that joe biden said at first time traveled then this other guy ripped him off and then joe biden went back in time like but but today they would bend to his will today we can play videos and prove a thing is false back then it's just like what Biden would say a thing the media would be like not true and he'd go like oh you got me
Starting point is 00:21:52 why wouldn't you just be like the media they're along no like that's my speech have a nice day no one's gonna hear it I mean here's the crazy like he didn't why did he drop out of the race I guess they had proof because they'll play video of him talking with like robert f kennedy talking and he's like saying the same stuff um i guess they had that technology it was good he's doing that now i think well i don't know no that was from 1988 but uh now they'll they'll still tell you that they didn't say it right after they said it and there's video proof that they said it was running that year i mean i think part of it might just be that he didn't have the institutional prowess
Starting point is 00:22:28 to stay in the right. No one was going to back him up. That could be it. I haven't looked into it. 88. What was that? Dukakis and George Bush Sr., I think. I think it was Michael Dukakis.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Might be. Yeah, it was. That was a Democratic guy. I was too. It was a boring time to be alive. I wasn't around. I don't know i will study my u.s history and get back i watched teenage mutant ninja turtles that was my 1988 it was
Starting point is 00:22:51 much better yes although that's the thing man we were all like in that you know snowed into that that dome they had us captured in that media dome now we're outside of it it's weird really how the internet has been like one of the best things ever and one of the worst things ever at the same time yeah it's created this group of people who are able to understand a lot more than we've ever understood and also a psychotic death cult that sterilizes kids so you know yeah there's that trying to communicate with text i think is so they'll look back and realize how damaging it was because we used to write letters and mail them to each other but it was like a last resort if you left a note on your refrigerator for your roommate it was passive aggressive and nasty if you didn't go to your roommate just talk to their face but now like talk about passive
Starting point is 00:23:31 aggressive text conversations okay yeah and trying to have a relation like what you think people are gonna why is there like an 80 divorce rate or whatever 60 divorce rate 50 of people males under 30 haven't had sex in the last year some crazy number like the stupid stupid misuse of the internet let's talk about the nightmare dystopia for which is upon us in this story from the post-millennial illinois to force landlords to rent to illegal immigrants full stop holy crap is the third amendment violation right well they're not soldiers i guess doesn't matter doesn't matter uh we had a member mentioned this that the third amendment the spirit of it goes beyond just the idea of quartering soldiers because there was a supreme court ruling on it the general idea was the government could not intrude on your home the government forcing you to house anyone i think
Starting point is 00:24:20 would fall into third amendment so the question would be what is the spirit of the third amendment and the idea was the government forcing people into your homes. But I suppose you could make the argument it only referred to quartering soldiers. Here's a story from the Post Millennial. Illegal immigrants will soon be granted housing rights in the state of Illinois after Governor J.B. Pritzker signed a new bill of law that makes immigration status a protected class. This means that landlords will not be able to deny illegal immigrants housing as average home prices skyrocket across the state so it's not like they're going to the landlords with an illegal immigrant being like house them it's that an illegal immigrant will come
Starting point is 00:24:55 say i want to i want to i want to live here and you can't deny them based on the fact that they're not citizens which is kind of crazy because there might be like other laws you are breaking if you don't deny them right because what do you get like as well they're not citizens can i rent to them you're gonna report them i gotta say that is the one thing where i'm less worried about the whole story if if an illegal immigrant's gonna find an apartment and someone's gonna be like i don't want you to live here do you think they're gonna say well you have to no the landlord's gonna call want you to live here. Do you think they're going to say, well, you have to? No, the landlord's going to call ICE and just be like, here, problem solved. There you go. But it is insane.
Starting point is 00:25:29 They're offering up immigration status as a protected class. Do you think that there would be repercussions for calling ICE? Like, do you think the landlord did that? Like, anti-betraying bricks through windows? Or, like, could you potentially, because our rule of law gets crazier and crazier all the time, could you get accused of, you know, being discriminatory or a hate crime because you called ice on someone you suspected was an illegal immigrant i mean there might be other repercussions by adding this to being a protected class depends on where we go as a country yeah because if we if if depending on
Starting point is 00:25:58 who wins the culture war where we end up in 100 years it'll change how all of this is framed. And they already didn't. Weren't Democrats already running ads that likened arresting illegal immigrants to the same as rounding up Jews? There was like some viral videos where it showed like the image changed or something like that. No, what was that all about? I think that might have been something else. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:23 But the Democrats have already likened immigration detention centers to concentration camps. Liken outright called them that, AOC, with their fake photos crying in front of these parking lots or whatever, and then claiming that the detention centers put up by Obama were concentration camps. And then as soon as Trump is out of office, they're once again holding centers.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So I guess the question is, if you are somebody who reports an illegal immigrant, you need to ask yourself, are you going to ensure that American values win the culture war? Because if you're not, I'll tell you, after the far left extremists win and there's struggle sessions happening all over, they're going to accuse you of being a Nazii and they're going to say see this proves it i think depending on who who wins the the culture war if it's the far left i don't even know if we'll have landlords because it'll probably be black rock owning everything and we'll all be living in our little 15 minute cities with our and then there's no illegal immigration because there's no borders if we have a global government so maybe there we go society collapses quickly but swiftly yeah the ceo of blackrock's talking about bitcoin loving on bitcoin right now the total great tracking mechanism that's what he said no he didn't say tracking mechanism he just said i i have a lot of hope for the future we at blackrock we we have hope is one of our main
Starting point is 00:27:40 our main tenants and uh i just want to talk about bitcoin because uh it's a hedge against in case uh i'm gonna stop talking now he didn't want to like be like well just in case the economy yeah i heard that yep yeah i feel like anything that gives blackrock hope we should all just be very wary oh yeah if the ceo blackrock is saying i care about hope and here's bitcoin i think that he's telling you if you want to have hope for the future to get that i don't know but that's what it feels like is he's like this is my here's my my get out of jail free pass do you want it yeah because i'm talking about bitcoin right now we are black rock this is a lot like what i think uh alex jones was talking about on the culture war podcast a few months ago that these these elites set a bunch of bear traps publicly announce where they are and then sit back
Starting point is 00:28:24 and wait. And their mentality is if you're smart enough to avoid them, then you deserve to avoid them. And if you're stupid enough to walk into them, then you deserve to. And so this sounds very much like that. All of these problems happening all over the world in the United States with the problems, especially with like illegal immigration, if you're paying attention to it, you are actively navigating through the bear traps. And for the rest of the people living in big cities, they're walking straight into them.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Well, and you have to remember that someone benefits from illegal immigration, right? They wouldn't if we all agreed it was bad and it didn't help anyone, then we would close the border. But ultimately, Democrats tend to like high immigration areas, high illegal immigration areas, because they tend to tip the census to support their candidates. It helps them when it comes to election election years. So think strategically, like with Illinois, this is a way to lock down more rural areas and potentially have more influence among voters there. If you're if you're making landlords who might not want to
Starting point is 00:29:22 house illegal immigrants in their residences or wherever that be, it makes it so potentially you can gain control over an area because, again, you're changing the demographics of more of the state. And I think that's the problem here. I think that people don't take immigration seriously because it makes them uncomfortable to talk about. Like saying illegal immigration is a protected class is like saying it doesn't matter to everyone who tried to migrate here illegally because actually you don't have the same protections as someone who is illegal. They don't care about legal immigration. They don't care about upholding the rule of law.
Starting point is 00:29:59 They care about getting their way in the end. It feels like Democrats, liberals are just fire. They're consuming and destroying everything around them well and please fact check me but you know obviously illinois is more than chicago but i went to school in chicago i lived basically on on the south side and i would i would wager that the places that most of these illegal immigrants are going to be moving into since if they're illegal you know how are they working they're probably not making that much money they're going to be moving into the south side of chicago right where the cheapest
Starting point is 00:30:26 housing is and that's going to not only create problems but it's going to push out people who are living there so you're all these you know liberals complaining about gentrification and meanwhile they're sort of if you read that last sentence in chicago the most populated city in illinois the median rent has increased from 1750 per month to 1900 a month and it's just so interesting to me if you're trying to help Chicago residents, right, who are getting priced out of being able to live in their houses, getting pushed out, you're now going to add a massive influx of people that you basically have to say, yes, you can live here. And if not, you're going to be like accused of a hate crime. It's just it's so backwards. And there's no way to rationalize
Starting point is 00:31:03 that policy from the perspective of actually putting chicago residents you know meanwhile when they're not having like dozens of people die every weekend because of shootings oh you know what we should do right now is make sure hondurans can live in houses in chicago like i mean the biggest argument for any birthright citizenship is typically this means that you will not be incentivizing people to cross the border just by saying if you get here on time and have a baby here you now have citizenship and claim to the country and you could participate in DACA and everything else and in some ways Illinois is now saying like we'll do the same thing if you can get here we're going to give you special protections
Starting point is 00:31:39 and therefore they are making it likely that if you were an illegal immigrant and you heard hey well I can definitely I won't get kicked out of an apartment because my immigration status, which, you know, there are benefits to going to Chicago. They are making it more inviting to encourage illegal immigration, which is incredibly dangerous for everyone involved, both the effect it has on our country, but also for the people who are crossing the border. It's not safe and we shouldn't encourage it like this. Regarding this Chicago thing that they're doing, are they charging $1,900 a month for rent for these illegal immigrants, or are they being forced to lower their rent? Rent is probably not connected. However, you need to consider that the more they expand these issues,
Starting point is 00:32:21 you will get people who will demand a cheaper rent, and if you deny them, they'll make the argument that it was discrimination. So, not typical, though. I don't think money plays a big role in this. And what they're going to try and stake this on is immigration status just means, like, if you immigrated to this country versus if you're a
Starting point is 00:32:37 citizen or not, but of course it's going to include immigration status in general, which includes incomplete status or, you know expired etc etc what can you expect generally is like when someone is arrested the border for immigration and if they're released in the country like immigration court is so messed up that you'll have uh years and years before you're supposed to come back and appear before a judge you have no reason to actually return if you're able to set up life somewhere and live basically away from the system.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So in some ways, you're potentially hurting landlords who if someone were to like commit a crime and flee, you know, then their their building is associated with these negative things. I mean, I don't want to be too, I don't want to make too many generalizations, but making it so you are making one state saying illegal immigration is okay here, it hurts everyone else around them. It hurts the people of Illinois. It's not an incentive. It doesn't help or protect immigrants. It's just ultimately creating more fires that Illinois is going to have to put out,
Starting point is 00:33:40 which means they're going to end up asking the federal government for more assistance. They're already doing that with cities. The illegal immigrants they allow into their state move to other states. And then, you know, California letting non-citizens in, they then go to Arizona, Colorado, etc. And they start putting economic strain in
Starting point is 00:33:56 these places and people aren't, they're not being tracked properly. And then they can vote in New York City. In terms of like resources to the government to say tracked, we don't want outright, overt surveillance. I mean, the amount of money that is being generated by the economic activity of these immigrants is harder to track. And so we're expending more resources on our public utilities. That's just costing people more money.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, I think Adrian Norman for Tim Cassidy just posted an article saying one in four. I'm going to pull it right now. Nearly one in four public school students are it right now uh nearly one in four public school students uh are the children of illegal immigrants or of immigrants generally i mean immigration has a huge impact on our country and i know there are arguments for it for some people but illegal immigration is uh a huge challenge that we are not taking seriously enough and in fact we haven't been for years and i think this should be something that everyone talks about but instead it becomes this emotional debate well we got a bunch of cultural stories
Starting point is 00:34:48 and i'm going to start with the stupidest one this from the new york post elon musk snipes zuck is a cuck about meta boss zuckerberg after rival rival twitter app launch so threads has cracked 100 million users uh i still think it's not that good, and I don't know if it'll actually take over. But Elon Musk called Mark Zuckerberg a cuck. Okay. He then actually went on to call for a literal dick-measuring contest
Starting point is 00:35:17 between him and Mark Zuckerberg. And then did Mark respond with, somebody get my microscope? Is that what he said? I saw a picture that said that i don't know if that was doctored or if that was i doubt it so get my microscope did they include that in this so uh in the four days blah blah is like as a cuck musk musk tweeted responding then wendy said you should go to space to make him mad and that was it some
Starting point is 00:35:41 people were appalled by musk's. I was surprised that, you know, he tweeted that he wanted to have a dick measuring contest. And a bunch of people were like, you forgot to post this from your parody Twitter account. You posted it accidentally on your main. Yeah. Do you think he runs his parody Twitter account? That's my favorite conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Oh, that's actually him. That Elon Musk is behind his own parody account. That's a good idea. Controlled opposition, you know. Do you guys, are you on on threads do you guys like it yeah you maybe you can answer this is there any truth to the idea that they hired a bunch of people from from twitter that's the whole lawsuit i can't verify but yeah facebook denies it facebook tonight get out of here what rights does elon musk have if that's the case well they did
Starting point is 00:36:22 i don't know actually that's a good question Trade secrets, like if you quit one place, you probably are under some sort of NDA that you can't talk about the code that you wrote at that place. But you might know ways to recreate the system without the exact coding. You might be able to change some of the coding. But that's the problem with proprietary code in general. And companies owning code is when they leave the company they like the company doesn't really own the code it's the people that make the code that own the code so that's why i'm a big advocate of freeing it um i wanted to i'm looking up if see if zuckerberg responded to elon
Starting point is 00:36:57 well he wanted to have a dick measuring contest yeah i didn't see a literal one i i don't see how that could have been from a parody. I like that. He actually tweeted that. So this is our, this is our current state of discourse. The big thing with threads is that it is, um, it's not good. And I don't know what else to say about it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Instagram is just not a place for high level conversations. So it's like Facebook is, you know, what is Facebook? A phone book, a directory. Twitter is our news. It's,
Starting point is 00:37:24 it's, it's basically the basically like the news networks back in the day. People would go on, debate the news on the news show. If you went to the Simpsons for your news, you're not really getting news. This is basically what Threads is. Instagram's an entertainment platform,
Starting point is 00:37:38 not a serious political platform. It does have politics on it, but it's not that serious. The platform just... You know what i think is more likely to happen young people on instagram will switch to twitter once they start getting more politically active it's not not going to be a switch to threads or some other stupid app or something do you think the people i know who are like in content creation who don't like twitter but like instagram tend to be not political at all they're you know fitness people they're they
Starting point is 00:38:04 have cookbooks. They do things outside of this. Do you think that there's any chance that thread basically becomes a Twitter for those people? No, it'll just die. What do they have to talk about? I don't know. But people like them.
Starting point is 00:38:15 People follow their content. I assume it's the same thing with anywhere. They have questions. We're releasing this thing. If I'm following a guy because he does backflips off of buildings, why do I care when he when he makes a post with no picture of a backflip and he just says something like went to wendy's today i'm like
Starting point is 00:38:30 show me a backflip or otherwise i don't know i'm not following instagram's the platform where you'll see a video of him doing the backflip where it says went to wendy's today over top of the image or the video they don't do just text see this meta, Zuckerberg, he's good at copying other people and compiling stuff. Like Facebook was just like Friendster, more or less. He kind of ripped the concept off MySpace. It was like a developed version of that. And then they bought Instagram. He didn't build that himself.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They bought Oculus. I think they had the Oculus come in. Now they have that. Now they're doing this. They basically got the developers from Twitter to recreate, trying to recreate Twitter. So, but then, you know, it's not really an argument that he's bad at what he does.
Starting point is 00:39:11 It's just not, it's not super original. It's kind of lame, but it's functional. It's just not creative. He's not the most, sorry, Mark. Do you think for a market saturated on social media platforms? Because you're, I mean, you do this for a living. You must have Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Like at what point is it too many? Yeah, I was going to say I'm a Luddite. I hate social media. I feel like every month they're like launching a new platform and it's really annoying. I'm not on threads. I'm not really even on truth. I'm not really even on getter. The only one I really do because I think you get the most bang for your buck is is twitter because i think that then can
Starting point is 00:39:50 also get aggregated or like disseminated on to other platforms but yeah i don't i don't think threads is gonna i don't i mean i'm not because how could you maintain it unless you really saw like like i'm saying like if there was like threads only had the mommy bloggers, right? And that was where the mommy bloggers went for Twitter. Like maybe there'd be enough engagement there for your niche enclave of content for it to work. But Twitter already dominates this type of media. So how do you, I mean, Gab and other platforms exist, but we have seen that they haven't
Starting point is 00:40:24 surpassed Twitter yet at least why would threads because it's already attached to instagram and people are already there there's an access i just don't i don't get it but i'm not a huge social media person they're already up to their old same censorship tricks of meta so it's like why would you want to go backwards and go on a platform that is certainly not going to let people like us say what we want to say so you're alienating like half the country right there yeah at least half the world yeah it's how do you talk you can't talk politics if there's a censorship cloud i mean you can't really effectively talk about the possibilities you can't war game your strategies and talk about what
Starting point is 00:41:00 horrible things might happen because if the company's like no you can't even mention that possibility like then i can't have a conversation yeah that's why i think it could only exist for people who are non-political but then do they have enough to talk about on that platform no they don't really text i mean maybe they do but not on social media pictures like review stuff like i did a review of this what did you guys like i i just can't imagine it you can post a video to instagram already you can post pictures what is somebody who is dedicated themselves to a visual medium going to do with a written medium that's why twitter is news and politics so all of these liberals and leftists were like i'm going to blue sky i'm going to mastodon whatever they
Starting point is 00:41:34 can it's not going to change anything i would you know they say they they they added a hundred million users and it's like why because you have insta because your instagram and people just got a threads account yeah that like come on of their billion people other people who are already using instagram they just clicked a button twitter actually understands this i think elon and that's why they're going so hard into video now because the the twitter text is like the the rock bottom you don't want to go that direction if you have it you better have it for your network i'm just kind of surprised youtube doesn't have a better messaging service. They really dropped the ball, you guys, at Google with Google Plus and all that crap. Just consolidate it into YouTube.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Make it the best social network. But Twitter's going full-on long-form videos, subscription models, audio. And that is absolutely the future. Do you think text will ever come back? Is Twitter the space? For transmitting data, it's good for information, but for communication, it's not very effective in my opinion. It has no tone.
Starting point is 00:42:32 That's true, but it's faster than video. That's why it worked in an era of video. So someone can tweet something like, I am hungry and would like to have a cheeseburger, and then someone can respond with, cheeseburgers aren't healthy, you should consider a different option, and then you can respond with cheeseburgers aren't healthy you should consider a different option and then you can respond with screw off vegan you know like a video back and forth is not that easy to do but so like if you were in text you're like we're gonna get food uh later that's a good text but if i'm like what how are you feeling about that
Starting point is 00:42:59 in the text oh did i do the wrong thing that is not not a text question. That is no, it is insane, inane. If I ask you about emotions in text, I've missed. Like if you're like, if you want to tell me what you're going to do, I'm into it. If I want to ask you why, that text is not the place for that, in my opinion. It starts to get bogged down with what you think I mean
Starting point is 00:43:19 and what I... There's a reason why people aren't recording videos of themselves to Twitter in response to other people, because text is the way to do it. It takes too long to load up and watch and then you gotta turn the volume up, you can read in silence People can't absorb video. In the middle of the night. People can read faster than they can watch a video. So people even say they'll
Starting point is 00:43:36 listen to TimCast IRL on two times speed. Which is crazy, considering I talk so fast as it is. But they'll do it, because they can understand it. On Spotify, you can do three times. Three times speed. I wonder if there's anybody out there show done in 30 minutes if anybody gets the transcript of this and reads it the two-hour show yeah that would be insane that'd be nuts it's got a two hour show is it tens of thousands of words every episode is a book and then you get to hear the tone too you know the tone's like half the battle if If not more, 90%. 90% of communication is body language.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Is that true? So there's that bell curve of... A book or something, playing audio probably makes sense. Short conversations, really annoying to listen to. I'm sorry, I can't stand it. Do not send me voice memos.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I will press delete instantly. I don't have two minutes to listen to your thoughts when i can read the whole thing in 10 seconds it's just like i'll look at my we're gonna mess up my phone and i'll look and it'll show like the waveform like delete or just leave a voicemail because then there's at least the like attempted transcription exactly right yeah yeah i won't check my voicemail either yeah i'll read whatever i get sent and i I'll just delete. Text me, dude. Yeah. Text really did revolutionize the way people communicate instantly. I don't think voice memos can really compete with them.
Starting point is 00:44:52 But what does that have to do with... Instant data transfer. For why Therese is suffering. No, why Elon Musk is calling Zuckerberg a cuck. Because it rhymes. What's all they fighting? That's my other question. Where's this Coliseum fight that I was promised?
Starting point is 00:45:04 I think in Rome, at the Coliseum. they doing it for sure i don't know lex freeman's encouraging them not to actually battle but just to spar and become sparring partners for the good of humanity because if they're get head trauma i mean i think it's a duel you remember when uh um you know alexander hamilton died in that duel we could have another big moment like this this is part of culture they could bet their companies and the winner takes all well talk about consolidation the winner is like but i don't want you to get thread because it's terrible yeah the thing about the the old duels it was that you know duels used to be legit people would kill each other then it went and became like an honor thing where you wouldn't actually try to kill the other guy it was about whether or not you'd show
Starting point is 00:45:41 up but it's kind of like you know look and i guess with hamilton and burr hamilton was like yeah yeah yeah and fight off to the side like we get it we're here and then burr was like screw you and like actually wanted to kill him so he agreed to it and his sacred honor was intact as he died so uh and then the young people were like this is crazy why are you dueling we should stop this was the last duel in the united states i don't think it was the last one but dueling ultimately started to fade out because young people thought it was barbaric. My thoughts on what Elon's doing is, this is all publicity. Massive publicity for Twitter and for Meta right now.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Both those companies, their valuations are skyrocketing. None of this makes him look bad, I think. I mean, maybe this is slightly immature, but you know, ultimately, he's staying in everyone's heads. He's still the thing that we're talking about. Like the two of the most influential billionaires on Earth and they're just having fun and playing heads. He's still the thing that we're talking about. Like the two, two of the most influential billionaires on earth.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And they're just having fun and playing around. Like that's a good thing. I want to talk about this story with Jack white. And the first thing I want to say is it's very strange to me that variety didn't include Joe Rogan's name here because they had an excellent opportunity for clickbait. Jack white slams, disgusting Mark Wahlberg,
Starting point is 00:46:42 Mel Gibson, and more for interacting with fascist, racist piece of ass Donald Trump. Okay, here's the post. Official Jack White. He disabled. I think he disabled comments. Anyway, he says anybody who normalizes or treats this disgusting, fascist, racist con man, disgusting piece of ish Trump with any level of respect is also disgusting in my book that's you joe rogan you mel gibson you mark walberg you guy fieri this is a statement from me not a discussion
Starting point is 00:47:13 debate jack white the third well trump derangement syndrome is back in full swing as we gear up for 2024 how excited are you guys for this you would never see this like if joe rogan shook obama's hand you would never see the reverse of this. No one would even bat an eye. Do you think any of them would be like Obama talks to conspiracy theorists and misthink peddler Joe Rogan? Like do you think there would any be pushback for Obama? Because I feel like for a while people really doubted Joe Rogan. Let's never forget the COVID era.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Probably not because everybody most pretty much everybody loves joe rogan in this political arena and then everyone else loves obama so and then the the press simps for obama so i would imagine they wouldn't yeah they wouldn't go hard there wouldn't be anyone to go hard against them this is like this jack white man like talk he he's not punk this is like him him thinking he's punk rock when he's 58 and afraid of somebody yeah i think it's weird to be like i'm gonna publicly tell you my opinion but i don't want anyone to comment on it like you should keep it inside your head then what would jack white do if if you if trump was there and everyone was meeting him you probably need to be like avoid
Starting point is 00:48:19 eye contact all you guys you're bigots oh yeah. I mean, people did refuse to go to the White House. Didn't we have several professional sports teams that won whatever? I'm not very good with sports. But that declined to go to the White House. And the press gleefully reported on this over and over again. And then when I think, did the Patriots end up going to the White House after they won the Super Bowl or something? And people were like, oh, interesting. Why would they do that?
Starting point is 00:48:44 I guess they're going to go meet trump like it's just a regular thing that athletes do you guys are the ones making it such a histrionic fit it says a lot when people disable comments and jack white deleted comments then he posted a gray block that allows comments it's just like i i i don't know man i'm i'm tired eight some odd years of this psychotic trump derangement syndrome like jack white you don't even know anything about politics some dude what is wrong with you a a mma commentator met the president former president shook his hand that's it that's it's all it's like joe rogan president, shook his hand. That's it. That's it's all. It's like Joe Rogan's like shaking his hand.
Starting point is 00:49:27 He's like, Hey, nice to meet you. And that's it. And so he posts a clip of it being like, you're disgusting, Joe Rogan. I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:34 the other thing is like, if he had seen Trump, he would have like, what walked away uncomfortably. Like he wouldn't have confronted Trump about it. He, he, he, someone who's acting like this,
Starting point is 00:49:43 I don't think has the the courage to publicly reprimand this apparently terrible person. So, I don't really understand what this person's point is. Let everybody like Trump who likes him, and if you don't want to talk to him, don't freak out. Isn't it interesting that Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:50:00 is facing a primary? He's the incumbent. It's hard to wrap your mind around it seems crazy to me i really thought they would have announced that he he was not going for a second term because he is so clearly uh unable to operate in a healthy and functional manner yeah that's part of this like arrest uh whistleblowers and then let them out later thing because like while the person's in power they want the whistleblower to go away and then later when they're out of power they're willing to let them out but i think that the biden's are afraid that if they get ousted
Starting point is 00:50:32 there's going to be a lot of like peering into their uh finances and that could be very bad for the family i'm just i just mean in terms of the level of hatred for donald trump this like psychotic fury at him and at the same time the indifference and the disinterest in joe biden it's like even the people who hate donald trump care more about donald trump than any democrat cares about joe biden to the point where there's actually a predicted market with other people who might win the democratic primary despite the fact we don't know if there will be one and joe biden the incumbent has announced he's running again there is still a chance he doesn't most people i think in politics are probably assuming he's not going to even though the prediction markets are saying he's going to
Starting point is 00:51:20 it just feels like the system is is it's done yeah i don't get the the trump stuff hey really like i get like even from that perspective of like he's the other he's dangerous it's not that bad he was never that bad he was just kind of annoying i guess the people that are just like easily swayed or get very afraid at the thought of like losing out or and he was built to be this terrible monster i mean the the media and his opponents really made trump this larger than life figure that represents all evil i mean it was it was like the term never trumper existed for a reason he was absolutely uh the epitome of everything you couldn't let happen to the country i mean obviously i don't believe that and i think that's kind of a hysterical position to take.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But, you know, to Tim's point, there was an NBC poll that said half of all Democrats think Joe Biden is too old to run, yet they still dislike Republicans more like it doesn't. None of it makes sense. They don't like their own candidate. They don't believe they're there. They don't believe their incumbent. They only have hate. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:29 It's all bitterness the on the conservative side on the republican side even with even libertarians there are there's debate over trump questions around trump even even the libertarians i love it we'll bring on like some mrs caucus guys and they'll say no no we're not trump fans but they will concede some points make oh well you know i okay i can respect that because they're actually listening, having a reasonable conversation. Republicans right now, you've got the DeSantis camp. They hate Trump. The Trump camp hates DeSantis. And that's like normal primary banter and bickering and stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:56 But Donald Trump, you've got people who love him and support him. People who are like, oh, well, you know, he's the best we can get. People are slightly indifferent. The Democrats, for the most part, overwhelmingly don't have anything positive to say about any of their candidates. The people who are praising RFK, us. We're the ones praising RFK as a debt. And he's a Democrat. The Democratic Party and the corporate press despise him.
Starting point is 00:53:19 They rag on him all day. Joe Biden is mocked relentlessly, still defended to a certain degree in the corporate press. But no sane human is going outside being like woo joe biden but those same democrat people on the left are screaming how they hate donald trump i just find it very very interesting with a story like this do you think that he was not co-opted by the chinese movement we were talking before the show about the what's this party the una the united front this is cool this first time my favorite thing to talk about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And so as you're studying the United Front, it's an alliance of groups against... Can you explain the United Front really quick? Sure, sure, sure. I won't go full nerd. But the United Front is basically the Chinese Communist Party's political warfare department. They spend billions of dollars targeting really who's who in the West, whether it's academics, elites, think tankers, politicians, their staff, people even in college, all the way down to the high school level, really a pipeline of people who become the most influential decision makers. And Hunter Biden is a perfect example. We were talking
Starting point is 00:54:15 before the show, you know, Hunter Biden wasn't really that enterprising in that the sense that in the sense that, you know, don't miss the forest for the trees, right? There are a lot of people like Hunter Biden. It's not like Hunter Biden was out looking to make inroads with the chinese communist party the chinese communist party knew exactly who he was and the avenues whereby the chinese communist party can liaise and get in business and really get westerners on their payroll which then nine times out of ten translates into whether it's preferred policies or nice think tank papers or uh nice talking points in the mainstream media um that's how they that's how they do it and trump came out very hard against china in when he was running did the uh the united front just they were not able to get
Starting point is 00:54:56 get him co-opted and so they just started printing in the media hate this guy hate this guy until we can get a president that is sympathetic. I mean, believe it or not, one of the leading groups of the United front is a group called the China United States exchange foundation. They were paying to take Western journalists overseas on trips to China in exchange for, and I quote directly favorable coverage and to disseminate positive messages. And Donald Trump, along with a bunch of other United front groups actually banned them from
Starting point is 00:55:23 operating in the United States, effectively sanctioned them, even though they other United Front groups, actually banned them from operating in the United States, effectively sanctioned them, even though they're like cultural groups. But he shut down a lot of these cultural exchange programs. That's like the euphemistic term that they use to describe what they were doing with this group. CUSAF, same with the Confucius Institutes. So Trump, as much as people mock him for,
Starting point is 00:55:41 oh, he doesn't understand, you know, they would always say, Trump makes America look like a fool on the world stage. Right. They love that line. They love that refrain. His understanding of Chinese Communist Party influence and a lot of that you can chalk up to the wonderful people who are in there and around him. People like Peter Navarro, who really got Chinese Communist Party infiltration. But for someone who studied this and my career has been in this, he really attacked them with a level of nuance that you've never seen from anyone but i i will say on what what jack white said which i do like his music but it's okay
Starting point is 00:56:12 um it's sort of it throws me back to like 2016 which isn't necessarily a good thing but i think that sort of gives an interesting insight to the mind of the like typical you know trump derangement syndrome npc type character in other words not that you obviously you always see anti-trump stuff but what he said the racist sexist you know fascist like that's so 2016 playbook and it's obviously all grandstanding right he's like hoping to genuflect and have people say oh you're so wonderful even though he turned the comments off but it's almost like now that Trump is back in the news cycle, he's running again, and he's looking like the strongest candidate to emerge. It's like in their NPC mind, it's like muscle memory, right? It's like,
Starting point is 00:56:53 must start attacking Trump again, must start going after him. Oh, what are the words that I've always used to describe him? Fascist, racist, sexist. So in some ways, I think it sort of shows that Trump is under their their skin always has been and after all this time after all the eight years all the investigations and rush of collusion hoaxes and everything that they were going after him for the best that they still have to attack him is that he's a racist racist fascist piece of you know s homophobic bigot yeah xenophobe did they throw down we're creative We're at least better with our critiques. We're so good, they
Starting point is 00:57:27 have to indict us when we're whistleblowers. They have to go after us with the DOJ. All they say against Trump is like, oh, he's racist. A racist Nazi. When you were saying the NBC, I think you were talking about NBC poll. I thought you said NPC poll. So if someone could doctor that
Starting point is 00:57:44 up, the NBC meme, just change the B for a P. That would be even funnier poll i was i thought you said npc poll so if someone could doctor that up the nbc npc meme just change the b for a p funnier if the actual npcs were like he's probably too old anyway so no republicans let's celebrate some victories another story from the post-millennial sound of freedom is a smashing success projected to earn over 4040 million in opening week. Tremendous! It was an amazing film. I vouch for it. I give it a 10 out of 10. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. The theater was crying. It was a really, really
Starting point is 00:58:13 great film, a great thriller. Angel Studios is announcing that, I'm sorry, estimates are predicting a massive $40 million at the box office in its opening week. In a press release, head of theatrical distribution for Angel Studios, Brandon Purdy said, as with our July 4th numbers, today's numbers exceed our expectations
Starting point is 00:58:29 and we're going to continue this momentum. Sound of Freedom has taken on a life of its own. Winning. That's huge. I love the way they promoted this movie. I mean, one of the things that I saw in the lead up was like, buy a ticket for someone else because we want to get, what was it, several million people to the theater to represent you know all the children who were involved in
Starting point is 00:58:48 in trafficking and i thought that was really cool it was sort of refreshing and this is not by any means so shade at the barbie movie but you know barbie movie has been largely about like very staged press appearances and you know it's kind of cool if that's your thing but also this one had sort of more meaning to it and i think people are really hungry to feel like they are they are part of the change in the world i actually watched it last night and it was so wonderful but i went home and i felt like i'd been radicalized i was like oh my gosh so i started looking up stuff and you know i love my deleted web pages so actually i published a story today biden's doj So they have a child sex trafficking website, and not in that sense, like it's their informational page where they actually talk
Starting point is 00:59:31 about their subject areas that they focus on. And in May of 2023, they revised which keep in mind weird timing, right? That's like three years into the year two years into the administration. But they actually revised the child sex trafficking portion of the doj website and they i kid you not removed the subheadings and multi-paragraph explanations of international sex trafficking of minors domestic sex trafficking of minors and child victims of prostitution and they reworded what exactly they defined child sex trafficking as taking out a whole blurb where they talk about how it involves like the transportation between two countries so that made my like conspiratorial mind go like what the heck my brain just lights up if you
Starting point is 01:00:15 and if you read the blurbs that they deleted it's literally talking about how open borders make child sex trafficking a heck of a lot easier and when i saw that i was like that's like like imagine just imagine you're like some biden staffer like your job is like you run the doj's website what would take over you to delete that from the informational web page about child like it's it's just bizarre why they do it? Because they're trafficking children? Maybe. I said maybe. I'm not saying that, but I would like an explanation. What a good tactic to learn.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Rather than read the old one and read the new one, you read what was removed. It's like an elimination diet. That's what I do. I do my text comparisons, and I see what they take out. They deleted their, it was called the china challenge website where they described the chinese communist party as like an existential threat to the united states on the first day of the biden administration they also took down a web page profiling all of the atrocities and basically genocide going on against the uyghurs and xinjiang and they literally took
Starting point is 01:01:19 china off um the list of like adversarial threats uh taking taking on and taking over the united states so you can tell a lot and all this was done the first day of of the biden administration so like someone is very very radical who's running their their websites but i just can't believe they took and this film was made five years ago and for some reason they wouldn't put it out and it was very very difficult for them to finally do it. And it makes $40 million in its opening week, which is massive for any indie film. And it's really massive accounting that it made $10 million on the first day.
Starting point is 01:01:52 $14.5. $14.5 on the first day. So that's $25 million in the six following days, which is huge for an indie film to go from, to increase its, I guess, to make 150% of its opening day over the net over the course of the week i would have thought that that indicates that it got a lot of good publicity i think in word of mouth yeah i think a lot of people are are referring other people to the movie
Starting point is 01:02:16 which hopefully will mean it sustains the profit margins for a long time grassroots movie what this means is that anti-establishment anti-woke libertarian minded individuals conservatives suspected liberals whatever this group is actually engaging in the culture war i know one guy that said he bought a ticket didn't he didn't want to go because he didn't know if he could handle it but he still wanted to support the movie yeah like that's i don't hear that a lot about a lot of movies but i am excited for barbie i am too i don't mean to shade barbie but i did think this idea that they were saying like the most important thing to us is that people sit in the theater and see the movie
Starting point is 01:02:51 so if you can buy a ticket for someone else like if you can help people get this message out there that's what we care about and i think that is the part of the culture war that people are really wanting to be part of it's not the first shade of barbie at all barbie can do a great i mean all the success in the world to barbie but i think it is interesting that this movie that you're right i mean it would be hard to watch it would be hard to see people are still flocking to see it they want they want to know what's going on and hopefully it's barbie had that scene they're they're getting slammed because it shows the lines coming out of china the nine dash line the nine dash lines there's only eight in the movie but it represents china's claim over the South China Sea. What?
Starting point is 01:03:25 And that's in Barbie. And so the movie's getting banned in a bunch of Southeast Asian countries. It's this whole abstract world map, and it's like this dashed S line. In real life, it's basically like a U. But Barbie is... It makes me wonder, was that intentional?
Starting point is 01:03:40 Barbie hasn't said, or the makers of Barbie, I should say, haven't said if this was intentional. They want to make money in China. Right now i can't see barbie i almost wonder if they're they had no idea what they were doing i think they want to make money in china i think that's ultimately but i do like the idea that someone drew the map and was like i don't know i looked up a map and there were some dashes there's any movie that could play the dumb blonde card yeah it's this this is their out we had no idea what we were doing that's actually what they said they said it's just a fake map that barbie drew up like
Starting point is 01:04:09 it's a why did barbie know about the line exactly like why yeah if it's such a silly cartoonish map why are those lines there and i don't know vietnam band united front but uh see exactly that's so we have it you can you can see right here. I don't know if the Philippines was reviewing this and they were saying maybe some of their lawmakers were suggesting perhaps this scene could be edited out. So this map doesn't appear. But I don't know how that went. It may just be if you look over here on the other parts of the map, there are other dotted lines. It may have been to represent just like traveling, not actually anything. And because there's lines coming out of Asia, like this is not even the shape of Asia.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Like, what is this? No, it's a complete abstract map because it's silly. But on the other hand, I do like the idea that someone just was like map of the world, didn't think about it at all. And now they've like entered this movie to huge geopolitical debate. Yeah, the occult people in the film and movie industry a lot of times are very manipulative with think with imagery so they might have been like this is a travel path but they happen to make the travel path the the cutout that they want to be given to the chinese um authority that's possible we'll
Starting point is 01:05:20 probably never know i mean no one's no one's to come out and explain it. You have two choices this weekend. America. You can support China by watching Barbie. Or you can support America and saving kids by watching Sound of Freedom. Which way? Oppenheimer as a third choice is not on the table.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Are people seeing it? Is it good? I don't know. No. I never see any movies. Don't look at me. I got to go see Sound of Freedom. I think I might go tomorrow. Yeah. Bro, you're going to be crying the whole time. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah. Oh, geez. Dude, the opening scene is so well done in that movie. What I was saying earlier is like, everyone here has seen Up, right? No. No. You haven't seen Up? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Wow. Is it like good? Well, the first sequence is amazing it's really solid the first 15 minutes will leave you bawling your eyes out in up and then the rest of the movie is kind of like okay i don't even care like i watched that i i saw it with children though and i was like solid i don't have to worry about anything in here back in the first the first 15 minutes or whatever of up is is one of the best short films ever and then afterwards it's silly nonsense I don't care about. Was it a short movie that they turned into a feature?
Starting point is 01:06:28 No. It's like basically the intro to the film to explain why the movie's happening. I mean, I'm going to spoil Up for you because it's been a very long time. Let me tell you what I know of it by not having seen it. It's a guy whose house they're going to repossess. And he's like, no, I'd rather fly away. And it's just with no words, the story of away. And he ties balloons to his house. And it's just, with no words, the story of how he got his house
Starting point is 01:06:47 and what led him to... It's him as a little kid meeting a little girl. Then it's a montage with music of them growing up. They long to travel the world. They have a jar. They're saving up money. But then things keep happening. There's a leak in the roof.
Starting point is 01:07:01 The car breaks down. So they keep breaking open the savings and spending the savings on things other than their dream trip trip and then one day his wife wants to buy it his wife dies and so he's this old curmudgeon who lives in this house and now his city sprung up around him and so that's like the first 10 minutes or whatever in sound of freedom the first 10 minutes um i won't spoil completely but the intro sequence not there okay so there's there's like the opening credits and then there's the opening scene the opening credits has real video of children being snatched by traffickers it's terrifying like it's horrifying to see how like it'll it's it's surveillance
Starting point is 01:07:40 footage of two little kids like playing basketball at their house and a car pulls up and they just grab the kid and throw him in. The other kid starts freaking out. Just like that. But the opening sequence, basically, without spoiling anything, just lays out the general concept of what's happening. And it's, it was like, it was, it was, it was a weird kind of fear. I've seen, you watch a horror movie and you're like, oh man, there's gonna be a jump scare or something. You're like, scared. You're not really not really scared yo i was kind of scared watching i'm like in in the beginning with everything that's going on i'm feeling like this fear and this dread this
Starting point is 01:08:13 doom because i know exactly you you watch you know exactly what's about to happen and then you watch it happen and then your fear anger and dread becomes like anger and sadness it's a good movie man i guess sadness is better than fear so yeah it's worth seeing but it's like a kind of fear where you know where it's going and you're waiting for it to happen and like oh man do you feel i recommend it do you feel better equipped to deal with it on the global stage having seen that movie oh i don't know i think it i think that movie is going to put it in people's minds though and i think a whole lot of people in hollywood and dc are freaking out right now and how successful this is so that's your third reason to go see it the first is because it's a good movie the second
Starting point is 01:08:52 is because we want to build up alternate studios who can compete with hollywood and the third reason is to piss off the creepos who are in hollywood and dc who are fuming that people are starting to call out their creepy grooming trafficking behavior and a lot of questions about some prominent individuals and the things they've been up to on certain islands. I saw it last night, like at 6 p.m. on a Sunday. The theater, seriously, entirely packed. I got one of the last two seats that they had available.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And I didn't really know what I was walking into. Part of me was like, do I need to wear a hat? Like, is it going to be all like war room audience you know because we had been promoting and i was like oh i don't have security like they're gonna clap for you and it was actually amazing because it was such a i don't usually use the word diverse in a good way but it was such a diverse audience like it wasn't just trump support like they're queuing on crazies like it was normal people all ages all walks of life and you started to hear the conversations like around you and
Starting point is 01:09:50 I was just sort of listening to understand why people were there which I guess maybe is weird I'm like listening I'm eavesdropping but people just like oh like yeah I heard this movie is really good like yeah one of my friends was talking like it was very just
Starting point is 01:10:01 organic it wasn't like people sitting there like oh well I was reading the latest Q drop and they said I had to get you know what I mean like it was very just organic it wasn't like people sitting there like oh well i was reading the latest q drop and they said i had to you know what i mean like it it was normal nothing but it was just like it was just word of mouth people recommending it to each other the media keeps trying to frame it as a religion movie and i was just like there's like there's the only thing in it that can any way be attributed to religion is when he says god's children are not for sale that's it the rest is literally like is when he says God's children are not for sale. That's it. The rest is literally like a law enforcement drama.
Starting point is 01:10:28 There's some heist components, sting components. If you like Law & Order SVU, this is like 100-fold better than Law & Order SVU. It's like that. It's like a cop going and rescuing kids and stuff. I want to tell you, I'm going to wait a little bit
Starting point is 01:10:44 because I want to do the spoiler review where i just actually talk about everything but here's what i think is happening we go and see it we do the show we're like wow it was fantastic then other people are like oh okay i guess i'll go see it now that it's reached this point of of like virality i'm sure it's gonna it's gonna be sold out all this week and they may even make more money this week. The news reports coming out saying, you know, smashing success, excellent reviews, $40 million in its opening week.
Starting point is 01:11:12 That's going to lead people to be like, oh man, I should go see this movie. And you should go see it because I regret not seeing Nefarious in theaters. I watched Nefarious on Amazon when it came out and wow, that was also such a good film if you haven't seen nefarious you should totally watch it get it wherever you
Starting point is 01:11:31 can get it it's on amazon i don't know if you like amazon but uh nefarious was awesome i don't know if you you guys watch yeah no no that was a good one it was really interesting and uh steve d was on the show and he was because he wrote the book and he was talking about it and he is so nice and so well spoken and i was like oh cool this movie i was it's it's crazy to think this is the creation and again i i love anything that makes you think and i think that's why this idea of uh telling the story of human trafficking through a movie is is important because people need to understand what the consequences are and i think some of the themes that come up in nefarious are the same way. Your brain needs something to do with itself.
Starting point is 01:12:06 It needs to think. Can we spoil Nefarious now? It's been a while for Nefarious, right? Yeah, it's been like at least six months. Yeah, okay. What's the rule
Starting point is 01:12:15 on spoiling things? Is there like a time limit? Well, because if we're encouraging... Because I've still never watched Titanic, but I basically know what happens in that. Oh, I was just reading
Starting point is 01:12:20 about Titanic. You can spoil that. But if I'm trying to convince people to go watch a movie, I don't want to spoil it. I want to be like, you gotta go see it. So you definitely should watch Nefarious 2. You can spoil that. But if I'm trying to convince people to go watch a movie, I don't want to spoil it. I want to be like, you got to go see it. So you definitely should watch Nefarious 2. You can watch that one tonight.
Starting point is 01:12:30 But I'll spoil it a little bit. When my favorite part of the movie, and this is a key component, and it's like right in the beginning, so I'm not going to spoil anything serious. The murderer is like, by the end of tonight, you'll have committed three murders. And this is a talk. It's a movie in the beginning. So I'm not going to spoil anything serious. The murderer is like, by the end of tonight, you'll have committed three murders. And like, this is a talk.
Starting point is 01:12:48 It's a movie where they talk. It's like a handful of dudes talking for an hour and a half. In like one in one room. The whole movie happens in basically one. 90% one room in a prison with some stuff in and outside of it. And it's just like, I'll put it this way. The guy says,
Starting point is 01:13:06 by the end of the night, you'll have committed three murders to a doctor, to like a psychologist, psychiatrist. And then basically they talk through everything and you got to see it because it's really, really good.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I thought it was fantastic. And it's funny because I'm so, I'm really jaded on movies. You know, I have a subscription to Shudder. I can't watch half those movies anymore. You know what I mean? It's just like it's all jump scares.
Starting point is 01:13:29 It's all like I swear 80% of horror movies is like a young woman moves into a new house and then a ghost is there. It's like, okay, a child uncovers object. Object is haunted. And I'm like, sure, whatever. I've watched so much stuff on two times speed. I like to even push it to two and a half times speed that it's actually hard for my brain to watch movies now because it's so slow which i know is like so bad so like autistic but um yeah so sound of freedom is the first movie that i've watched in like years what prompted
Starting point is 01:14:01 you to go see it because it wasn't just i honestly also think movies are sort of a waste of time like i know we're getting into my personal but i don't know i would just rather do something with my body with gopher walk or like i have a hard time sitting still for yeah i'm also it's hard i'm like fidgeting in the chair yeah you and me bald we're just sitting over here rocking it's easier to watch movies for me at home when you're like doing something else like embroidering or folding laundry or like i can't watch stuff on regular speed now i have to watch movies for me at home when you're like doing something else like embroidering or folding laundry or like i can't watch stuff on regular speed now i have to watch it on two times speed do you watch movies on two times speed so most streaming platforms don't really cater to that and also i feel like that would just be also how do you watch a movie with someone you're like hey
Starting point is 01:14:37 would you mind if we netflix and chill on two times speed yeah final question that would be really bad do you ever watch multiple movies at the same time? When I was watching a lot of opposition research, so like old speeches from Biden and Biden appointees and like people in the Hunter Biden hard drive orbit, I actually did master that act. And I texted my boss at the time and was like, well, I'm concurrently watching these three speeches.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And he's like, how are you doing? And't like i don't even know how it's possible but you can if you're just listening for certain words if you're searching for something and that's i think so hard with like a lot of movies i find myself just uh preempting how the plot is gonna go so it's not it's not fun because i already feel on two times speed together yeah you and i would be fine but we'll just sit there walk around the room two times speed together. Yeah, you and I would be fine. We'll just sit there, walk around the room two times speed, guessing the plot. But I think that's one of the things I loved about Nefarious was that it was just a format I was not expecting for a movie. And you're not really sure what's going to happen next, as opposed to what Tim's talking about with horror movies in particular. There's only so many combinations of like the ghost can come from the wall or the floor.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Like, yeah, that's what you run out. Yeah, it's like the ghost can come from the wall or the floor like yeah at some point you run out yeah it's like the the music box was haunted the next movie is like a single mother moves into a home and the the cupboard is haunted and it's like i'm the worst because like at the beginning of tv shows i'll be like oh they're gonna fall in love they're enemies right now but they're gonna fall in love and like no one likes to watch anything with me because it's the whole a whole time i'm just figuring out who's gonna end up together i gotta i want to jump to this uh this segment here this is a story once again another story from the post millennial joe rogan and elon musk call out msnbc for suggesting being healthy and in shape is far right i love it
Starting point is 01:16:18 uh this is what winning looks like okay we've had a whole bunch of the culture war victory segments today joe rogan tweets in response to msnbc who said the far right's obsession with fitness is going digital he said being healthy is quote far right holy f patrick bet david with the best response says does that hold the inverse being true that the the left's obsession with being fat is going digital. But this is really funny because if you guys know who the Krasensteins are, we've had them on the show. They're liberal pundits. Brian Krasenstein, I think it was Brian,
Starting point is 01:16:56 he posted a video of himself working out. And looking pretty fit. You know, good for him. A fitness to far right pipeline. But that's what I said. I said, careful, Brian. You keep it up, you're going to become far right. And a bunch of leftists and liberals started attacking me for it and i was like dude i'm kidding like i was i'm joking i i i interacted the guy positively on on twitter i recently
Starting point is 01:17:13 shouted him out he said let's not fight let's like you know he said not everybody's crazy and extreme you know we just we just see the world differently i respect it and i was like you know all joking aside keep it up bro looking good and And the funny thing now is even he responded to this being like, what? Like being in shape is far right. And I'm like, I warned you. Like I told you, dude, they will call you right wing if you're into fitness. That's how psychotic the cult is. Yo, they legit want you unhealthy, unhappy, eating bugs and living in a pod.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah. I can understand if people are getting in shape because they feel like they're going to get attacked, that it might be a form of a result of being radicalized. I'm so afraid for my life now. I've got to defend myself. But if you just want to get healthy and muscular so you can carry your kids around, I mean, come on. But isn't this like the left all the time? They're saying, you're going to misgender me. do you're gonna have microaggressions for me like wouldn't that mean
Starting point is 01:18:09 that they should be the ones getting in shape to defend themselves so check it out here's the tweet that everyone's responding to posted july 10th 2023 right here's the story written march 22nd 2022 msnbc knows that they are sparking controversy. Have you guys ever seen those videos? There's a couple. A woman will have a counter and she'll go like, okay, here's what we're going to do. And then she'll take a bag, like an industrial bag of nacho cheese and just dump it on the counter.
Starting point is 01:18:39 And then she'll take a bunch of chips and pour all over the cheese and then start mixing it with her hands. And you're like, what is she doing? You hate watching it. You exactly exactly they're not real tips i watched one where it's like she pours like uh like vinegar into a pan then pours cream and puts an egg in the middle and she's like trust me and i'm like no it's intended to trick you into watching for a long time so they make money that's what msnbc is. That's what the left cult is. Well, and in particular, it's sparking it on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:19:14 MSNBC knows that people it's it's the algorithm will respond to its tweet, getting a lot of engagement and engagement doesn't have to be positive. It doesn't have to be a bunch of people saying, oh, we love great story. Good, good reporting. People arguing in the comments makes it look like a lot of people are interacting with the post, which technically they are, although they are screaming at one another. That's the same thing with these food videos where it's like, what is she doing? Is this a joke? All of the debate makes the video seem popular to the algorithm.
Starting point is 01:19:36 I'm still taken aback that this is a year old story that they are sending viral right now. Arnold. Arnold has chimed in. He says fitness is not political right now. Arnold! Arnold has chimed in. He says, Fitness is not political. Right or left, all of us can benefit from the lessons of progressive resistance training,
Starting point is 01:19:49 creating a vision goal, building a routine, doing the reps, learning to love failure. The list goes on. If you don't know where to start, Arnold's Pump Club. See, I can respect it.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Everybody's basically being like, dude, Bridget Phetasy says, the only way to prove you're not a Nazi is to get fat. Apparently, that's the only way. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:20:06 It's amazing. These are all the responses of everyone just mocking MSNBC. Here's Abby Libby on Twitter saying, someone please inform MSNBC. I'm about to do a little far right extremism, diving into the lap pool to go exercise. We should just call exercising far right extremism. You guys want to go engage in some far-right extremism
Starting point is 01:20:26 at the gym tomorrow? but then they'll probably strike down gym classes from schools because after all the years of being like kids need exercise they'll be like we can't indoctrinate children to be conservative there's got to be more to this story maybe we are here's more to the story
Starting point is 01:20:38 newsguard rates msnbc.com 57 out of 100 proceed with caution this website generally fails to maintain basic standards of accuracy and accountability. Wow. Womp. Penn's tweeting out a year-old story. They're like, we don't care. That's the old guard, man.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Can you NewsGuard fact-check NewsGuard? Yeah. Is that even possible? I don't know. I mean, there's the fact-checkers. Here's Fox News. Tim does. 69.5 out of 100.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Fox News has more credibility, according to NewsGuard, than MSNBC does. Uh-oh, I can hear everyone's liberal aunt screeching and saying, that's not true. NewsGuard is far right. Okay, lady. No, lady.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Go back to the gym. Go back to the gym. They don't go to the gym. Are you trying to convert her? Are you trying to indoctrinate her with extremism? I'm a Pilates fan, so. But I do think that there is,
Starting point is 01:21:23 there's an obvious correlation between working out, being fit, and being conservative. Yeah, I think that there is an obvious correlation between working out, being fit, and being conservative. Yeah, I think so too. You're going to like two things. One, someone who's willing to work out clearly sees the benefits of hard work for long term gains over
Starting point is 01:21:38 short term gains. Short term, you're going to be tired. I think working out really does feel fantastic though. But long term, you feel like a bolt of lightning. You feel fantastic. Somebody who feels that way probably already understands a lot of basic conservative concepts. But then there's also the correlation between testosterone, you know, aggression and being more conservative. You're going to be more assertive.
Starting point is 01:21:57 You're going to be more confident. You're going to feel better about yourself. Working out will likely have you end up being more, quote unquote, far right. But if this were true just like every nazi would be jacked and like the reality is whenever you see like actual people waving nazi flags they're like very heavy or very gaunt and frail looking like not very healthy looking individuals that's the weirdest thing too it's like why are why did msnbc try to make this argument in the first place?
Starting point is 01:22:26 Are they trying to convince? Look at this picture. Can we just look at it? Okay. It's a bunch of Nazis doing the Roman salute. And then there's a guy, a flexing arm. What's the black? They're covering up.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Oh, I don't know. Trying to cut like because it's artsy. Yeah, sure. Edgy. Hyper masculinity have always been central to the far right what how are these people simultaneously arguing that conservatives are like chuds but also that they're super jacked and ripped hyper masculinity was a big part of mussolini's fascist thing he wanted to make the the italian river uh masculine so he changed the gender of the word of the name and he was big on like the fatherland and stuff like that but that doesn't
Starting point is 01:23:05 mean that uh working out in general makes you a fascist just because he was masculine yeah or what if masculinity includes uh taking responsibility thinking long term like those don't have to be negative qualities no matter what mainstream media thinks right there can be positive qualities of masculinity that result in someone wanting to make sure they maintain a high level of physical strength and health. Like they've just decided these things are bad and they want to use the phrases that make you scared of them, right?
Starting point is 01:23:37 That's why they put an image of Nazis on screen to be like, you don't want to be hyper-masculine. That's bad. Hyper-mascul hyper massive so like what masculinity is like i guess you get too much testosterone you stop feeling is that the problem with masculinity you can't you lose touch with your emotions because you're in touch with like what you grab in front of you but is there any indication of that i don't know i feel like that's not true uh i don't know what is is your experience with testosterone? Have you gone through T levels, high testosterone, low testosterone in your life?
Starting point is 01:24:08 Well, I'm bald, so apparently that means I have a lot of testosterone. You do have a lot? I don't know. You're pretty driven. I exercise a lot. I skate a lot, and I eat a lot of beef. I didn't used to eat a lot of beef. That's only recently.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I've been eating cheeseburgers nonstop for some reason. Don't ask me why. It's like smash burgers. You're going to say burgers. Far-right extremism right extremism yeah no but I typically would eat a lot of chicken and fish most of my life and uh actually don't like eating a lot of beef because I usually would get sick actually I was getting pretty sick because I we I too much oh man you know for dinner we made smash burgers but we fried them in bacon grease and I'm like it's the most delicious thing I've ever had and then I was like oh my god so maybe i shouldn't do that again your arteries anyway anyway my point is uh
Starting point is 01:24:50 i've been exercising i've been skating literally my whole life so there's two things that come with this um skateboarding is is is i guess it's considered a high risk high impact sport jumping off buildings jumping downstairs it's an adrenaline rush non-stop it's not like active conflict or anything but i but a lot of people told me it's unsurprising that i got involved in urban conflict reporting stuff because when you're skateboarding you're looking at something that's terrifying and dangerous and you're going for it every time and it's giving you that that adrenaline rush so you are desensitized to that shock and then you're like oh i can go and handle this i'm not going to get hurt well but the physical ability the physical activity of it you know i
Starting point is 01:25:29 would be uh in you know just before occupy wall street for instance i would skate eight hours a day every single day with like one or two days off per week and so i would man i was consuming thousands of calories per day like insane amounts of calories to try and keep up and if i didn't i would pass out like some days i would just eat and keep up and if i didn't i would pass out like some days i would just eat a couple thousand calories and i would just be like i'll just chill today and maybe skate tomorrow because i can't do it and then there would be days where i was just like i was shedding weight really really like this period where i was in virginia i was in newport news and i was skating at a park called anti-gravity i was skating so often i lost
Starting point is 01:26:01 like 10 pounds in a couple weeks just. Just like, and, uh, but that, that exercise builds muscle, increases your testosterone levels. You're going to be a certain kind of person. Yeah. Also probably when you got into skateboarding, you were like, I don't know how old you were, but like, uh, you probably were. Okay. So you're a teenager, uh, boys going through puberty have obviously an increase in testosterone
Starting point is 01:26:22 and it's linked to an increase in risk taking behavior. so when your brain was forming you learned how to take calculated risk physically uh i don't think these things these traits of masculinity and testosterone don't have to be negative yeah i i think that they're conflating misogyny with masculinity because i think that's on purpose though yeah it could be because like the andrew tate stuff he said some stuff that was misogynist i i think let's let's yeah like he's gonna get some guys trick them get fake women guys that pretend like they're women to chat with dudes to get their money like using women as like an object that's a bit misogynist but the man he's also very masculine like he's he works out he eats healthy he's about motivation so you've got to strip away the misogynist crap from the hyper-masculine stuff or the masculine stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:07 And working out is definitely more of a masculine trait. Nothing about it is misogynistic, in my opinion. No, I don't think it has to be. And I think part of it, too, is men in particular are visually oriented, right? So it's one of the reasons. It's one of the great differences between men and women so for men obviously seeing another fit man makes you think oh okay this guy is conveying strength to me for a lot of different reasons but also if you feel strong if you feel good you feel healthy you are going to convey confidence like there are lots of benefits to
Starting point is 01:27:39 working out uh emotionally psychologically and physically and the fact that we are treating them like to pursue it is actually admitting on some level that you're an extremist like that's terrible we should encourage people to live healthy lives i've got i've got good news for fans of the show um we're putting on a new music video soon but it may be you know a month or two as in soon and um the reason the song is done we need to film the video and we could just film a video over a couple of days. But instead, we're going to be doing something much cooler than that. And that is the story centers around a guy who is like devolving. He is withering away.
Starting point is 01:28:19 So, you know, throughout the course of the video, he's getting smaller, thinner and frailer. And so what we're doing is Ian is going to film the final scene now. And then we're going to get him jacked with a very serious training regimen and massive amount of protein. And then he's going to film scene one. So in the video, it actually goes in reverse order. Like in the first scene, you'll see Ian looking fit, kind of, you know, I don't want toed or ripped or anything the idea is just to get ian up 20 pounds of muscle or something like that and then by the end of it ian's looking as he does now it's so wild to consider doing um a body change for a movie or role i've fantasized about it for 20 years oh what if i worked with a production company that paid me to get strong like that's what it's all about in hollywood
Starting point is 01:29:01 we got a trainer yeah we have a trainer tomorrow i'm meeting with brand Brandon. And this last week, I started working out about a week ago. I started doing 100 push-ups a day and going for a mile on the exercise bike. And then I stopped because I was like, okay, we got to film this first scene. And I've been just atrophying. And it's like my confidence is diminishing. Did you feel better when you were doing it? So much. But almost like I'm afraid of myself.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Like the way I get aggressive. Like physically. Not aggressive. Like not um but it's the word the word is aggressive i guess but it's not like dangerously aggressive so this is like you just have more energy is it aggressive or are you just like more alert more more like less nervous energy more stabilized energy yeah that doesn't have to be a question. That sounds good. I bring it up for fans of the show because all of this high protein, high fat, high training diet, Ian's going to be like
Starting point is 01:29:52 20 pounds of muscles, his shirts are going to be tight, and he's going to become extremely conservative. He's going to be far right. Him and Seamus are going to be high-fiving about religion. I got all rid of all my large t-shirts. I might have to all medium and smalls now, so I might have to buy some new t-shirts. So really, we're just using this music video to test MBC's article. We're going to prove it.
Starting point is 01:30:09 If you become a far-right extremist over the course of filming, then we'll know they were right. We all owe them apologies. Just imagine. Shamus has got to get ripped, dude. He's going to be so excited. Just Ian all massive sitting there in a tank top being like, thanks for watching the show, guys. I'll be doing a lot more t-shirts on the show. Are far-right women who work out also masculine?
Starting point is 01:30:26 Like how does, is that the logic train there too? They don't care about women. We're just anti-man at MSNBC. It was written by a woman. Women that learn how to cook are hyper far right. Women who wear dresses, hyper far right.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I think that this is like about guys that want to put women in the kitchen barefoot like that that masculine and ripped misogynist but that's misogynist with their ripped bodies what if that means he's just like getting healthy so he can support their family and she can stay at home like that sounds nice to me yes i i get the idea of like someone being domineering is wrong sure i get that but like i don't think i think part of this is um just the mainstream's anti-gender norms agenda right like they don't like the idea that a man would want to be strong and classically masculine because that would must mean that
Starting point is 01:31:18 he doesn't believe in the values we believe in because nothing means anything and there is no gender i view it as a domestication of humans because i think about you know how dogs came to be wolves would scavenge the wolves that got close to the human camps were more likely to survive because there was more more refuse to scavenge the humans that were less likely to fight off or scare off the wolves were more likely to survive because the wolves marking territory kept other larger predators away and then over thousands of years the more the closer a wolf could get to the humans the more the human would tolerate the higher likelihood of survival there was till eventually wolves would be walking through the camps and they'd just be like oh we don't care till eventually
Starting point is 01:31:57 wolves became proto dogs and then actually started hunting with humans and then when humans realized hey like these wolves are tracking down at an elk and then they'd run with humans. And then when humans realized, hey, like these wolves are tracking down an elk. And then they'd run with the wolves. Then they'd use a spear to take the game down. The wolves couldn't. They all got to eat better, right? That's how dogs, they believe, came to be. Ultimately, though, what dogs are?
Starting point is 01:32:19 Permanent wolf cubs. Because the wolves that were aggressive would be killed or chased out by humans. The wolves that were playful, happy happy and loving were protected by humans so the wolves that survived became dogs doofy lovey all happy whereas wolves are like masculine and aggressive like back off man this deer is mine right dogs are like i got a deer for you. Can I have some? And so what we're seeing now with all of this don't work out, be fat, be lazy is masculinity is bad. Being fit is far right. Don't do those things. They don't want a manly man who is confident, collected and cool and capable of taking down game and living on living on his own terms. They want sad, pathetic, doughy, dependent men. They want people to be permanent
Starting point is 01:33:06 children like how dogs got domesticated you think that's like the technocrats the ones that want to put us in pods and it's it's it's the reptoids bro it's you know it's all the lizard people underneath denver airport i'm kidding that's what i mean i i think it may may just be an emergent phenomenon i don't think anyone's actually intentionally doing it i think it's it's you know uh one of the things I think we see happening with words, terminology, opinion, is that women dominate journalism and writing fields. And so you're getting this very feminine perspective
Starting point is 01:33:35 on everything. It sucks. And so, yeah, so naturally- I would argue a feminist perspective, not feminine, but- Yeah, feminist. Because it's not moms who are writing news articles. It's typically unmarried women working jobs who are writing it.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So it's a hyper-feminist spinster view of the world that we're getting through all of this media. So they don't need no men. Meanwhile, actual working moms and working dads who are very happy with the way things are and love having a family and women who want to be moms, they're less likely to be represented in the media spaces going conspiratorial here but i bet like the lady who wrote this her boyfriend probably like broke up with her and he probably
Starting point is 01:34:12 just got into like working out and been going to the gym for a gym check and she's like you're so mad they're far right he could never reject me it was the gym yeah the gym corrupted him no i think there's is something to that i mean i think of the concept of uh you know like yelp or any review site uh if you're happy with something you're probably not going to leave a good review maybe you are and i hope you do if that's your habit but most people are willing to act when they have a negative review when they don't want to say something good so when you have these channels where you can critique things uh it is tempting to always
Starting point is 01:34:45 be like well this is bad and here's something you should fear and here's this other thing that's going to corrupt you and working out makes you terrible like it's just this very bitter culture that we see emerging which is ultimately eating away at people's sense of self and joy i noticed that and i decided to kind of try to counter that at some like on twitter i had a great flight with delta and i tweeted it out best flight i've had experience in my life delta thank you everybody was awesome but for me people like i thought that if that wasn't you and i would have thought that was fake i would have thought you were paid shill but i believe you because it's you because you have i'm sorry no i just want to point out before the super chats
Starting point is 01:35:22 as for this woman who wrote this article Cynthia Miller Idris she's married oh and she's married and she hyphenated is her husband that's super common for journalism though
Starting point is 01:35:32 I think Cynthia Idris they got married a very very long time ago okay maybe it wasn't a fair when you google search the writer
Starting point is 01:35:39 it pops right up I like your story better I think I'm right she was a professor wait what is it she was a'm right she was a professor wait what is it uh she was a gym instructor she was a she was uh no she she was uh a doctoral candidate in sociology at a university and she hyphenated i feel like we should read the article at some point or part of it because i don't want to read her thesis now oh i mean like i don't want to do it it's it don't
Starting point is 01:36:02 worry you're not it talks about neo-naziazi blogger Andrew Anglin advising his followers that fat people should be required to commit to losing weight. Like, come on, we get it. She goes there. And at the very end, she's like, well, you know, fitness, of course, is a staple hobby for everybody. And blah, blah, blah. Oh, OK. Yeah, no, we get it. I see.
Starting point is 01:36:18 For those of us working to find better pathways to reach at-risk youth, understanding the ways that far-right groups recruit and socialize youth in ways that go well beyond rhetoric and ideas is crucial. It's so crazy if you're like, look, young friend, your life will be better if you are in shape and you're eating healthy. And they're like, he's trying to indoctrinate the kid. I'll be like, I hope
Starting point is 01:36:40 so. I hope I can indoctrinate all of the children into eating right and being fit and healthy and living good moral lives. You crazy person oh i know right let's move the original extremist michelle obama trying to get the kids to eat healthy no i think this is the thing though at some point it's going to be like they never want you to be separated from your device it's it's actually hard to be constantly scrolling twitter if you're working out right like you have to step away for the moment and what if on some level this is saying, you know, when you're unhooked, I don't mean to be too much of a conspiratorial, you are not listening to us. And so when that ends, like
Starting point is 01:37:13 with children, they could either be after school to what, turn on the TV and sit down, or they could go play on their local soccer team. And kids who are active are healthier and happier. And the kids that are raised on TV are more dependent on the media. Well, the media needs to be dependent because that's how they make all their revenue. I mean, ultimately, they are just saying when you are not plugged in, you are not getting the information we think we need. And that's that's a complete editorial take on my part. But I think it's worth noting that like they could easily be saying like people who spend
Starting point is 01:37:41 time in the sun become extremists because of no specific reason it's just some random observation we think we have we're gonna go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com click join us that members only show will be coming up in about 20 minutes where you as members even get a chance to call into the show you can submit questions and then uh we do about four or five every night. And you will actually be on the show talking to all of us. So become a member.
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Starting point is 01:38:22 I just got to say what kind of sick, depraved mind would attack something that spotlights the sexual abuse and trafficking of children. To those who did, please ask yourself, are we the baddies? Yo, they are. They know it. They're comfortable with that. They lied about an island where a wealthy guy was trafficking minors and abusing them. And powerful elites were abusing them. Can we just point out like real quick that Prince Andrew
Starting point is 01:38:45 and the photographs that emerged, like, come on. Ghislaine Maxwell's in prison for these things? And no client list? Yeah, right. And then the media comes out and it's real simple. People with power and money
Starting point is 01:38:59 who are evil, disgusting child abusers pay good money to make sure it never sees the light of day. That is so gross if that was real. I think it might be. It's so gross. What do you mean, if? My whole life, that dark possibility.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean? Epstein got arrested. I know. He had the island. We know. It is a fact. To think that that's like an organized criminal racket that's manipulating the media.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Like, how? Dude, I... It's just crazy how, like, Alex Jones has been talking about it for a while, and they're like, ah, it's crazy conspiracy stuff. And then we get that expose. We get the leak from ABC about Virginia Giuffre with Amy Robach stuff, which ultimately Epstein gets arrested.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Ghislaine Maxwell gets convicted. Photos of Prince Andrew emerge. Dude, for me, it's like everybody now is like, yeah, that happened. For me, it's the drinking blood. They say that they drink blood of kids. If that turns out that that is freaking real, I'm going to, I mean, I'm not going to lose it because I already lost it, but I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop on that one.
Starting point is 01:39:53 I'm going to tell you this. The reason why I think they say stuff like they're drinking blood is so that regular people don't believe it. It's too far. Right. So if you said something like there are powerful pedophiles trafficking children, it's probably like, well, I mean, yeah, we know about what goes on in some of these other countries. So what happens is this is what we saw with a very prominent conspiracy theory pertaining to children and a pizza restaurant. All of a sudden, these crazy conspiracies emerge about a basement and about other stuff that's clearly false.
Starting point is 01:40:23 So what happens is you start seeing these emails come out and they say stuff like would it be more fun playing dominoes on pizza or pasta and then what could that be about obvious drugs there's code names for drugs all the time these were high profile political individuals emailing each other and they were probably saying like hey if we're going to go party should it be crack or should it be heroin or something yeah like whatever the code was drugs in order to get people off the trail a wild insane conspiracy comes out that says there's a sub-basement where children are being trafficked and these mean these things mean kids now all of a sudden the decentralized network of individuals on the internet who are tracking down what this
Starting point is 01:41:03 could be go in the wrong direction. So when they come out and they're like, did you know that they're kidnapping kids and drinking their blood? You tell that to the average person and go, shut up. You say adrenochrome, they're going to go, shut up. If you told people that for a fact,
Starting point is 01:41:16 we have known for a long time that there are creepy sex hotels and child trafficking going on, well, duh. And we're trying to stop it. And then if you said there are high profile, wealthy individuals
Starting point is 01:41:26 who are involved in it, they'll say, like, who? You got to prove that, man. That's a bold claim. But that's something someone's really, they're willing to listen to. If you come out and say, like,
Starting point is 01:41:36 Epstein's got this flight log. They call it the Elite Express. Powerful individuals are flying to this island. There are underage girls there. People are like, wow. That's a bold claim to make about a lot of these people. Do you have proof? Then you add in, and they're drinking their blood because they're underage girls there people are like wow that's a bold claim to make about a lot of these people do you have proof then you add in and they're drinking their blood because
Starting point is 01:41:48 they're doing rituals to say okay dude you've lost me yeah they'll have a nice day transfusions are probably way more i mean i know that people get healthy people hooked up to ivs and we'll get transfusions like in silicon valley like adults with adults yeah i forgot what it's called we talked about it before blood replacement therapy stuff like that there was that guy who spent all the money to to be young and then his dad is using his blood to stay what he's doing yeah and then he's using his son's blood and i don't i am not a medical i don't know i'm not saying they're not doing it i'm just saying i always tell people of the wildest conspiracy theories hey just start from step one right like don't microdose yeah like don't ease into it if
Starting point is 01:42:26 you think it's true you're not helping yourself by asserting something you've not yet proven beyond a reasonable doubt so why don't we start and say hey we have probable cause for an investigation because epstein has been accused of this thing and convicted and he's still operating this plane fair place to start hey ultimately, ultimately, he gets arrested. Now, as for everything else, you know, we'll keep the investigation. We'll keep the pressure on. But good luck there because powerful people are protecting those sickos. Anyway, let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:42:58 I'm not your buddy guy continues as I also think it's fair to say the Biden administration has crossed the Rubicon. I'd argue it happened in 2020 and there is no going back as they forge ahead. I had a feeling like that on July 4th when I saw Hunter all tweaking out, allegedly, behind them on stage. I was like, did we just witness the dark evolution of Joe Biden and his family? It was just so corrupt, so viscerally corrupt that he had Hunter flaunting it in front of all of our faces. And then they arrest this whistleblower within a week. On top of the state dinner where they had him running around saying hi rubbing shoulders with
Starting point is 01:43:28 everyone i think was like the day after he allegedly got indicted or arrested for the tax fraud it's so it's so in your face but that's the point i stand by they they don't feel like the consequences matter to them they feel like they don't they've gotten away they are proving it every single day imagine by the way imagine if they get away with this like what they're going to do after his presidency ends like who they're going to grift and sell out to that's that's why we have to win this battle that's why it's so important i still think though you know with the clear demise of joe biden there is a certain level of like who is going to harness power because now hunter biden is yeah he's almost too high profile and too obvious target i i don't know who in their There is a certain level of like who is going to harness power because now Hunter Biden is.
Starting point is 01:44:08 He's almost too high profile and too obvious target. I don't know who in their circle is going to inherit the power is all I think is. Look at all that Ukraine money. Yeah. Somehow. All right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Says Tim righty influencers lying about broken brain sniffing and everyone knowing that they're lying discredits us non-cult. It helps not the mission when they blatantly lie. They need to be called out. I think I think, Raymond, you're referring to the DeSantis thing. We didn't get into too much detail, but DeSantis is a quote where he says it was under Donald Trump. These intelligence agencies, the FBI, et cetera, were colluding with big tech to censor Americans and Trump should have fired them. The Hill reported DeSantis claims the Trump administration colluded with big tech, which then gets translated by Trump supporters into, quote, Trump colluded against himself or something like that. A gross mischaracterization. You can argue that Trump did not know it was happening. And so, oh, well, DeSantis shouldn't have said that because, of course, they should have been fired. But how is Trump supposed to know?
Starting point is 01:45:07 My argument is actually Trump should have known. We had a White House summit about this. We all came. A bunch of people went to the White House to meet with Trump and a bunch of other influential individuals in government to tell them censorship was a very serious problem and it was going to prevent him from winning again. And look, you can argue it was to benefit his political campaign. Sure. But the point was, we want everyone the ability to speak. The fact that anyone would be censored.
Starting point is 01:45:34 And I pointed this out there, too. I said, hey, look, there are anti-war leftists that are getting censored as well. There are there are accounts like Occupy Wall Street accounts that had been censored. We should make sure all of it's done away with and not just be hyper partisan. And people there agreed. So Donald Trump should have known to investigate this to get the DOJ or someone looking into it. He didn't do it. He didn't do it. So I agree with Ron DeSantis mostly on this point. And I think there's a lot of Trump supporters coming out and they're mischaracterizing what he said. There's no point like Like, you're not doing yourself any favors. Anyway, let's read some more.
Starting point is 01:46:07 What do we got? Drek Neviske says, Please watch Sounds of Freedom. Sound of Freedom. May God bless you. Love you, Tim. And the hot lady there, Hannah's hot too.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Well, okay. There you go. The theater by us had it listed as Sounds of Freedom. Plural. Do you think that's intentional? Or do you think they really just don't know? Maybe they just don't know. I'm so paranoid that I'm like, are they doing it on purpose so people can't find it?
Starting point is 01:46:28 I want to point out, Sound of Freedom was in about, I think, 55 to 60% of the theaters that Indiana Jones was in. And so, well, this is normal. Not every movie plays in every single theater. A big release like Indiana Jones, it's going to be in every theater. Every major theater. Sound of Freedom was only able to get in, I think, 2,600 theaters.
Starting point is 01:46:49 There were people messaging us saying, I really want to go see it, but it's not playing near me. Yup. Imagine how much more money it would have made if it was in more theaters. I think this movie's going to shatter 100 million. I think it's likely that this week is when the word of mouth wave hits, and people are going to be you're going to see it in the news
Starting point is 01:47:10 40 million rotten tomatoes score 90s you know or whatever the reviews are through are really good even even the actual reviewers who are corporate press they're actually saying nice things about it variety wrote some nice things about it the people screaming about it are like leftist cult member websites and political sites. But the actual movie reviewers are like, it's okay to good. I was reading a review from Roger Ebert. They gave it two stars. And I'm like, what is it, two out of four or something like that? Is four their limit?
Starting point is 01:47:37 I don't know. And I'm like, it was a sad, oh, it's boring, whatever. It's a thriller, I guess. And it's like, hey, man, if average is the best you can muster up, that's a good thing. Because a bunch of other movies they just claim get zero stars. Zero, no good. Don't watch it. No, this one's getting good reviews across the board.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I think now what's going to happen is this week, the word of mouth is going to ripple out exponentially. I think by the end of the week, Sound of Freedom is at 100 million. Definitely go see it yeah and i don't want to be wrong so you gotta go see it because man i will be so embarrassed if next week it's not at 100 million so if you want to really help me out in being right you'll go see it that's the only reason to go the only reason just support him go see this other to support my ego uh no i mean yo you'll you will enjoy it man it's like a movie that matters it's really it's really cool to see how well it's doing considering that too
Starting point is 01:48:30 that's like something that matters is succeeding it's probably good to see so when you're around other people and you're like oh i saw this great movie you guys can talk about it you know it's a probably a good way to find people who are interested in similar things than you oh definitely you'll go to your if you go to the movie theater to see this movie, you know that everyone in the theater is probably in agreement with you on a lot of issues. Now going to the movie makes you a far-right extremist. Then you guys can go to the gym, and then after that you can yell at your wives. Next up on MSNBC, why opposing child trafficking makes you far-right? Literally, though, they did publish that.
Starting point is 01:49:02 That's already it. Right, exactly. Jason Dixon says, hey, Tim, i am obligated to tell the world raymond stanley jr is the greatest person ever please come to discord and tell him at at more set you at more well all right i got on discord after many weeks of procrastinating but i have to say i really don't understand the interface i don't know if it's just me being a boomer, but like there's something about it. I don't know where I go to talk. Being a boomer? There's a learning curve.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Yeah. I can help you if you'd like. I don't understand, but I want to. It throws a lot at you, but that's why it's so great because there's so much you can do. I'll get like notifications that I don't know where the messages are. Mark Hanson says,
Starting point is 01:49:41 never cried before bearing a family death until watching Sound of Freedom. I went alone last night. Taking my entire family, including grandparents, Wednesday, keep up the great work. I really want to just describe the opening scene. I'm not going to do it. Wait like two weeks. Give people a chance to see it.
Starting point is 01:49:56 Because it's so well, I don't know, man. I don't want to say it's good because it's horrifying. It's well done. It's so well done. You feel it. Riveting. Oh, man. The dread, the anger, the sadness.
Starting point is 01:50:10 The opening sequence. Like, the opening scene. Oh, man. Dude, I really want to just... I'm not going to say anything. Yeah. I'm just... I really want to.
Starting point is 01:50:20 You got to see it. You got to see it. Guys, I'll have to go so Tim can finally talk about it. I know. He really wants to. Oh, I just want to talk about it so bad that's awesome dude that we'll talk about it after the show in private i don't want to spoil it for anybody you're gonna see it in the first 15 minutes you're gonna be like gripping the side of your theater chair the women are all crying the men are getting angry some of the men are tearing up like rage dude it makes you wish you were superman it makes you wish you could just fly
Starting point is 01:50:52 and walk through these evil people grabbing them and throwing them in the the squad cars in the vehicles in in the prisons and not have to it it's it's the saddest and terrifying thing of reality knowing that even in the most dire of circumstances at best between with you and this evil before you you're on equal conflict footing like if you're a cop and you're armed and you're facing down these gangs these traffickers they're armed too and we just wish that you could walk through them like superman and just end this evil that they're engaged in and i'm going to tell you one thing it's not a spoiler but it's like one of the truly most shocking things of the film that really hits you is when you see it when you see people like
Starting point is 01:51:35 hand a kid throw a kid into a into a bin and then someone hands them a lot of cash like they literally just treat these people like yeah wow this is uh crazy jorge ventura got me this is a little wristband from uh from a kid that was dragged across the border it says entrejas which means delivered yep delivered cattle this is 4186 4186 and then that guy crosses the border and someone hands him a stack of cash and he's like thanks and then he walks away not caring at all as to what he just did you gotta see that movie all right we'll grab some more where are we at dylan binkley says i i see threads crashing and burning much like mixer did when microsoft tried to compete with twitch yeah i agree that look the difference is that instagram is a platform people use
Starting point is 01:52:26 and a lot of people on Instagram don't use Twitter. So Mark Zuckerberg made a good call with this in that there are a lot of people who will just, you click a button and you've got a Threads account. That's why 100 million people
Starting point is 01:52:36 have signed up. But I got to be honest. What doesn't work for me is like I like watching this one guy does backflips. Parkour guy. And now I see him posting about going to Taco Bell. Like, bro, I literally don't care you went to Taco Bell.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I just want to see you do a backflip. You know what I mean? I honestly spend as little time on meta products as possible. The tracking, the amount of tracking that it does to sell your data and to do experiments on you, no thank you. I have them both. I've had Facebook for 15 years, but more than that. It always makes me think about that hearing from maybe like 2018 where one of the Facebook execs was like, yeah, we made like a very, very small algorithm changed. And like millions upon millions of people, all of their online rhetoric got instantly angrier. And it's like they just admitted to having such control and power and nothing came of it.
Starting point is 01:53:23 So, yeah, meta does kind of rub me the wrong way you know i'm very wary maybe if i talked to mark zuckerberg i'd feel a little better but it's that it's the software itself that proprietary crap and the tracking mechanisms blue de golier says tim we have a road trip drama feature slated for next spring studio director tried sending script to ian but he hasn't responded happy to product place your coffee in one of the scenes no charge where do i send the script uh don't if what's don't send me script well who sent me a script for what for this is a movie they want to sell i don't yeah i don't think we can accept scripts i'm not sure we don't take submissions because there's legal implications you're not legally allowed to like you you are but basically what happens is the reason why
Starting point is 01:54:05 no one will accept any solicited materials is because then you get into IP disputes. Yes. If I end up writing something that is akin to what you wrote, but I actually never saw what you wrote, then you might have a grounds to be like, hey, I sent that to you. That's evidence that you ripped me off.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Yeah, and then we're like, nope, because we don't accept those. I don't want to turn it all off, though, so I don't know. But I'll tell you what. Feel free to place cast brew coffee products in any film at any point and have people drink them. That would be great. As long as they like them and then they tell other people to get cast brew coffee. As long as at least one person does. If you write a whole scene where two guys are arguing over whether it's good or not, I'm totally okay with that.
Starting point is 01:54:44 This coffee is terrible. Are you you kidding it's some of the best i've ever had what why what are you talking about and then you're like social media where the negative feedback is also good because people will then be like well what is that coffee i'm just saying it gets me more screen having where the guy's like breaking in and the guy splashes hot cast brew in his face he's like you know it saves the day we're uh we're we're we're working on that Seamus the the Seamus coffee yeah we got some good ideas it's gonna be fun I forgot what I think Irish blend or something no he's we came up with a name for it I gotta talk to him we gotta figure it out it was funny I tweeted uh today that there's an Irishman who lives under my house and he keeps stealing my spoons but no one will believe me and believe you did all your spoons right here suddenly but it's funny it's actually Seamus's joke so so uh basically
Starting point is 01:55:30 Seamus had to return our spoons because he was eating with them and then you know putting them in his sink and not returning them to us and so then we were like yo Seamus you got my spoons back and he's like oh sorry about that and then it's like it wasn't really anything that mattered until he was like there's an Irishman living under my house stealing all of my spoons and it was like one of the funniest things he said so I was like that's actually a good point you phrase it that way no one will believe you but if it's actually like there's a guy who lives in my apartment and he borrowed silverware from me and then we asked him for it back it's actually just like oh well that's like not news that's not interesting at all but so I had to tweet it because it was funny he lives under my house he keeps stealing my spoons no one will believe me the moffinator
Starting point is 01:56:11 says yeah because jack white has the same star power as guy fieri mark walberg mel gibson and joe rogan what a joke yep what a joke yeah i want to see this guy host diners drivers and dives and see what he does he could never That show makes me so hungry. I'm telling you, it was a classic. You shake people's hands. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah, of course. Donald Trump, the former president of the United States,
Starting point is 01:56:34 at a UFC game, you're like, nice to meet you. Have a nice day. And Jack White's like. You know what I think is really the deal? Jack White never got to meet Trump. Jealousy. Interesting. It's envy.
Starting point is 01:56:46 It's clearly envy. He's sitting there probably in his you know like where's he where's he been is he relevant what's going on with him he's making music he's probably sitting there being like why why aren't i there with everybody you know everyone loving me and being famous it's why am i sitting here on instagram complaining about the world it's fomo he's sad that he wasn't invited that's because you have guy fieri he's probably thinking like i'm 10 times more famous than that guy and i don't get to meet trump you will know but trump's i don't even want to meet him he's racist you know we shouldn't call it sour grapes we should call it something else we'd be like we should call it trump is racist just bitter
Starting point is 01:57:18 yeah you guys know the sour grapes parable or whatever right no fox walks up to a tree and he sees a grapevine hanging from the branch. He's like, ooh, grapes, I'm going to get them. Jumps in the air, misses, jumps in the air, misses. And he starts getting frustrated. He jumps again and he can't get them. He goes, ah, those grapes are sour anyway. The point being you insult the thing you couldn't get.
Starting point is 01:57:35 That's literally what he's doing. It's sour grapes. Jack White doesn't get to be there at the main event for this big fight where all these celebrities are sitting with Trump and everyone's making a big deal about it. Kid Rock and Mike Tyson, Joe Rogan, like whatever. And he's sitting at home grumbling about how his time has come and gone.
Starting point is 01:57:54 And so he's like, yeah, well, Trump's a racist anyway. I feel like that about Bert Kreischer because I'm always like when I see him on with Tom Segura on Two Bears, 1K, everyone who's doing Rogue, I'm always like, man, he's not even that great anyway. It's just because I want to be Bert's best friend. I love you, Bert. I love you.
Starting point is 01:58:10 We will grab a couple more. He's a good guy. I like Bert. Adam says, hey, Tim, has anyone ever told you that your singing voice sounds similar to the lead singer of Radiohead? It does to me anyway. Hope you take this as a compliment. I love Radiohead.
Starting point is 01:58:21 They're fantastic. No one has ever told me that. Although I will say, back in the day when i used to play rock band uh i could perfect radio uh creep by radiohead yeah perfect it now to be fair singing on rock band isn't like real singing you're just matching the tones so you're like watching a little line going you're like like until it lines up but if you actually sing it, you can like catch it. But yeah, I'm that's like the only song I was ever able to actually master. That would be a full five stars.
Starting point is 01:58:52 A good use of artificial intelligence would be to match the tone of your voice. Like how much were you feeling it? And then score you on that. Jason McCart says, does Tim know he makes an appearance in John McNaughtonon's speak the truth painting what an honor i saw that i looked it up and sure enough i i do have an appearance in that painting where is it is it uh here it looks super cool wait there it is yeah i don't know if you guys want to look up uh speak the truth mcnaughton fine art it's uh it's a fantastic painting there's like charlie kirk there's me i think that's jack posobic there's candace owens james o'keefe it looks like sean hannity is there tucker carlson's
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Starting point is 02:00:00 It's good stuff. You can get it from exercise too. You get a lot from lifting. So the big plan with Ian is that no cardio. It's not going to be like cardio stuff. It's going to be like strength stuff. But we'll see. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:00:13 We got a trainer and you got to eat a lot of steak. It's kind of like I don't know a lot about it yet. But when you do strength training, you're doing burst muscle moves. And then you don't want to do cardio because the cardio actually lets the blood flow out is that right so you want to like just pinch it off and kind of hope that the swell takes over i don't know i'll know the trainer will know what i do know is we're going to go to the members only section over at timcast.com so head over to timcast.com click join us and that will be live in a few minutes uh you can follow the show at timcast irl you can follow me personally at timcast natalie do you want to shout anything out?
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