Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #815 WW3 Looms, BRICS Preps Gold Backed Currency, Ukraine May Join NATO w/Haley Kennington

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

Tim, Phil, Seamus, & Serge join Haley Kennington to discuss BRICS creating a gold-backed currency to compete with the US Dollar, the CEO of BlackRock announcing support for Bitcoin, a Georgia State Rep. leaving the Democrats and joining the GOP, and a Kansas judge ruling the state must stop allowing transgender individuals to change the sex on their diver's licenses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

world war three oh man i love to say it yeah i don't know if it'll actually happen it may already be happening it may be that in 50 years they look back and say that the ukrainian invasion was the start or should say the russian invasion of ukraine was the start of world war three but we got some crazy news been circulating for a couple days bricks that's brazil russia india china south africa and many other nations 41 countries are seeking to join BRICS. BRICS announced, and they've confirmed, a gold-backed currency to be used internationally. It's going to compete with the U.S., and I think it's likely the petrodollar goes away. I don't know for sure.

I can't see the future. But if that happens, my friends, those of you listening in America, your standard of living will drop precipitously. Yeah, you'll notice it. It's going to get really bad. Why? Because the U.S. for too long has tried relying on military might to maintain its economy. And this is what I think Donald Trump was worried about.

And this is what's going to come and bite us in the ass. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got a bunch of other cultural news. We'll talk about a bunch of different stories. I'll save them for later, actually, so we can get through the intro without getting in trouble on this channel. But I just, we'll leave it there. And then we'll talk about what's going on with Ukraine,

potentially joining NATO. They had a meeting. They said, okay, maybe we'll let you join if that happens. That is a direct declaration of war with Russia. So, you know, yeah. It seems like World War III may be a real possibility. As for the other stories, they're a bit cultural and they're related to gender issues,

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Yeah, I'm Haley Cunnington, and I'm a journalist. I was research director and story editor for The Plot Against the President and Daily Wire's What Is a Woman? And I'm the news editor for Wrong Speak Publishing. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. We also have the Irishman who lives under my house and steals my spoons.

You sound insane. Do you hear yourself when you say things like that? Confess, Seamus. An Irishman lives under your house and steals your spoons? Confess, Seamus. This is the man you're coming to for news? You're going to go to church.

Tim's on his mind. He's insane. Confess to what? Your delusions? Tim, I'm worried about you. I'm worried about you. My name's Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We just released a cartoon today on lefties and the way they project. I think you guys are really

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And if you get some kind of care package when you become a member, let me know if it contains any spoons. Tim, if you think that i'm planning to steal your spoons and send them to people as incentive to support my animation business i don't even know how to respond i don't even know how that is such a ridiculous accusation it's such a ridiculous accusation people are legit gonna think that they're gonna get a spoon from you now that's i i mean if people subscribe expecting a spoon i'm just saying that's not my problem or my fault i think you should add one anyway this well this man literally just said on air people are gonna get some spoons if they subscribe to me i never said that i don't have i'm not giving you guys spoons i'm trying to

figure out what he's doing with them nothing because i didn't take them and you sound insane hi i'm philip bonner lead singer of all that remains anti-communist and counter-revolutionary and uh i have no information about the spoons here at the at the castle so uh that's my story and i'm sticking to it hey what's going on serge uh i'm serge.com and i'm ready to start when you guys are let Let's do it. We got this story from MSN.com. Bricks gold-backed common currency, a shock to global fiat money system, says Economist. As Russia confirms launch in August.

Oh boy, is this one esoteric. I'm sure many of you at home are like, yo, I don't even know why I clicked the link to this video because I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sure many of you who are in the know saw the headline and went, holy crap. And I'm sure most of you who are really in the know said, Tim, we already knew this, but bear with me. This is big news. BRICS is the principal rival to basically NATO and the Western powers. The world operates on the U.S. dollar as its

reserve currency. You want to buy oil, you use U.S. dollars. With BRICS launching this currency backed by gold, they're basically giving a massive middle finger to the U.S. dollars. With BRICS launching this currency backed by gold, they're basically giving a massive middle finger to the U.S. and telling all the countries in the world our money actually means something theirs does not. Further, we've already seen countries like Saudi Arabia trying to do deals with China or actually doing them to trade oil in yuan. This means we are inching ever closer to the U.S. no longer having the reserve currency. And you know what that means? That means all of you at home, you're going to see your standard of living drop dramatically.

And therein lies the double-edged sword when it comes to international politics. The United States does not export enough. We export culture, movies, music, sure. But other countries can do that. Other countries can export a lot of stuff. So what do we really provide? To be honest, military might. When we want oil, we print the dollars, we buy the oil.

When any other country wants oil, they need to buy dollars from us first. With this deal from BRICS that basically shuts down our international Ponzi scheme, or whatever you want to call it, and then all of a sudden we have nothing to trade. What will the U.S. trade for BRICS currency? That's the big question. What are we manufacturing? What are we exporting that BRICS would want so that they would give us gold-backed currency

that we could use to buy oil with? Yeah. So, here's my fear, and a lot of other people's fears the reason why the deep state the bureaucratic state the the neolibs the neocons want war is to make sure we don't lose this status so the likelihood that we enter into a dramatically escalated conflict is ever ever so increasing to the point where let me tell you how desperate the machine has become.

Earlier, last year or so, I think it was last year, when Russia started using, was accused of using cluster bombs, the U.S., the Western forces claimed that was potentially a war crime. Now the West has become so desperate that Joe Biden has approved the sending of cluster bombs to Ukrainian forces, something that they had previously said could be a war crime. This is what I'm talking about. The people saying, oh, you can't do that because that's evil and wrong. And then a year later being like,

if we lose this, we're done for. So just do it anyway. How far off are we from someone saying, yeah, well, nukes are no longer off the table? Yeah, I don't know. It's a very frightening situation. All I really have to say about it is this, to quote the venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen, if a nation would behave more justly if it were conquered, it should expect to be conquered. In the United States has not been a nation which operated in a moral way domestically or on the international stage in a very long time. I've seen some of that turning around. I think the overturn of Roe v. Wade and the fact that we've saved tens of thousands of children

has been incredible. I think there's been massive backlash against the LGBTQ agenda. More young people are waking up and seeing the farce of the sexual revolution. But ultimately, this country has a lot of problems

and I hope that we can pull through them. I hope that the United States can be a strong, dominant nation that behaves morally, but that's not the track we've placed ourself on over the past 50 or 60 years. So I hope for good things, but I don't know that I necessarily expect them. I mean, considering the fact that the BRICS currency is, it's already in

motion. It's not something that's being talked about anymore. It feels like the writing's on the wall that the petrodollar, the time is limited. And, I mean, people need to plan accordingly. If we're in as much debt as we are to China and to other countries and stuff and our national debt's like it is and we lose the status as the reserve currency of the world, interest rates are going to keep going up and the buying power of your dollar is going to keep going down. And it's going to have a massive effect on the average person. So unfortunately, these things are slow moving. So a lot of people have kind of, you know, shut the idea of, of a

currency crisis out because it has been something that P they've, you've heard people talking about it since like 2008, you know, like since the, the, uh, the financial crisis, people have been talking about, Oh, if you keep printing money, then there'll be inflation, et cetera. And we're in debt. And, and I feel like the average person has kind of just gone numb to that. And if people are numb to it and they haven't been preparing for it or they don't, it's going to come back and bite them in the ass. And as usual, the poor people in the US and people on the margins, people that are just making it are going to fall into poverty. And people that are already poor, they're going to be screwed. and to be clear the the point i want to make here is that i hope that doesn't happen right again i hope the united

states is able to maintain our status as world reserve currency and we turn a corner and start behaving more morally with respect to our conduct both in on the foreign stage and domestically and and there's actually some precedent to think that that might happen just based on the last year or two and the way some things have improved in some areas. But yeah, I mean, if we lose world reserve currency status, if this country continues to spend and print money in unsustainable ways and also get involved in conflicts we have no business being involved in, I think it's probably fair to say that we're not going to be able to sustain that.

And just like any nation that starts fooling around because they become powerful and hubristic, we're going to end up seeing our own collapse. But what if the Democratic nominee for president in the debate says, here's what we're going to do. We're going to invade Ukraine. We're going to, in order to fight the Russians, like I shouldn't say invade Ukraine, but we're going to send boots on the ground in Ukraine, boots on the ground in Syria.

We're going to build a corridor through Syria, Turkey, into Europe to offset the Russian gas monopoly. And we are going to do these things specifically to destroy the economies of the BRICS nations to prevent them from subverting the world reserve currency. What if they just flat out came out and said, this is what we're doing and why we're doing it because our economy is propped up by the fact that we print money and we don't export and the only thing we can do is point guns the rest of

the world and tell them that they must serve us and all of your computers and all of your components the materials in there are mined by children who are working as slaves you can have that or you can live in squalor make your pick what do you do oh the average person would would decide to they'd vote for they i think they vote for the machine in two seconds and make an excuse i i think well the machine makes excuses for itself right so i think the way it's going to be advertised to the american people is there's some human rights atrocity or violation that's occurring in these countries. So now we have to go step in and intervene. That's what they're doing now. But I think the issue is when they were like cluster bombs or a potential war crime, and then Joe Biden's like, well, might as well send cluster bombs.

It's like, OK, that's not going to work. You're not going to be able to go and say, look, a war crime is happening. And then we're going to go ahead and do the same thing. That propaganda is not going to work regular people might just lie to themselves to justify why we should be in war but yeah what do you think i don't know the whole thing is scary to me of course i mean there's not a good option either way as far as what you just said i don't i mean i don't know it's all doom and gloom you know? I mean, in reference to what you said about, Tim, about cluster bombs and stuff, I mean, the Vietnam War started in 1954, I think is when,

and the French were kind of doing most of the combat role there and doing most of the fighting. And the U.S. didn't actually really get involved until 64, and then it was a whole nother 10 years. It's completely reasonable to say that, you know, we're a year and change in on the war in Ukraine or whatever. And all this stuff that we said we weren't going to send, all of these things that the government said they weren't going to be doing. They keep coming and come back and saying, OK, well, you know, now we're going to be doing they keep coming and come back and saying okay well you know now we're going to so there's there's no actual line that the u.s won't cross or at least that we that we as a population can reliably say okay we believe the government won't do this the government has

demonstrated over and over that they'll say one thing and as soon as it you know it comes time to be what they deem a necessity you know they say we need to we need to go ahead and do this for this reason it's completely expected or or should be expected that if the u.s has said no we're not going to do this if the conditions on the ground demand it or or an argument can be made that the conditions on the ground demand it, they're going to do it. And I think that is up to and including a nuclear exchange with Russia. If it gets to that point, now I'm not saying that it will, but if you put Americans on the ground in Ukraine, i could see that happening and i don't see the off-ramp for this to get to get us out of of eventually sending people to fight in ukraine this is this is why i bring this up this is the tit for tat we say oh no cluster bombs you can't do that then we do

cluster bombs they start producing an international gold back currency we have this here take a look at this willem middlecoop says 41 countries have applied for bricks membership this is massive this is what what is this like just about a third of the world yeah and i mean and not in terms of our government but well maybe with china too many in government i mean these are fighting words saying that we are going to use a currency absolutely that is not controlled by the united states of america something that's very frightening for those in the ruling elite to hear. And to be frank, those are frightening words for your average person too if they really consider them,

because if we do lose our status as world reserve currency, the quality of life is going to diminish for basically everybody in this country. Now, you've got to imagine the position that foreign leaders are in and foreign nations are in. They see how we have absolutely abused our status as world reserve currency and the fact that people need to trade in our dollar and are compelled to by the way the market functions currently in 2020 when covid19 crippled our economy or at the very least i should say when the lockdowns and the overreaction to covid19

crippled our economy what our government did is they responded by engaging in the most gigantic transfer of wealth that has ever occurred in all of human history. And they gave virtually all of the money to the wealthiest people in this nation and devalued the currency of everyone who had savings in order to engage in that transfer of wealth. Now, anyone who was paying attention at that time said, this is going to massively harm those in the lower classes. This is massively going to harm people who have saved. And this is also going to harm people who own small businesses

because the SBA was expected to handle something like 10 times its yearly budget over the course of a month or two weeks in order to get this bailout money to small businesses. Now, the giant businesses that got what, 4.2 trillion in low interest loans were able to leverage that to purchase up a lot of those smaller businesses after they closed down. And it was done with your currency being devalued. Now, poor and working class people don't have a whole lot of recourse for that but you know who does have a lot of recourse for that rich people in other nations who are holding U.S currency who didn't get that payout as well

as oligarchs and rulers of other countries that have stashed U.S dollars because they had some faith that the United States dollar was going to carry its value over into the future. And many of them are saying, you know what, we're probably going to use our clout to punish the American dollar and punish people who are in control of it by pulling out and signing on to some new currency. What gets me kind of worried is, let me jump to this story. We'll keep, again, we'll keep it all particularly esoteric. We have this from Coindesk. BlackRock CEO Larry Fink says Bitcoin could revolutionize

finance. A lot of people start to ask themselves why it is the CEO of BlackRock, this massive financial institution, is all of a sudden doing a turnaround and supporting Bitcoin. That one's kind of concerning. Or I should say disconcerting. When there's talk of the U.S. losing its status as a reserve currency,

especially over the past several years, and now more so with BRICS nations launching a gold-backed currency, the idea that this guy's going to come out and be like, I care about people, and I think they should listen. I don't know, maybe I shouldn't say anything. Maybe not. Maybe what happens is, and again, I don't know, I'm not a finance guy, so don't take my advice for it.

If the U.S. loses its status as the reserve currency, war breaks out. The dollar's going to fall to garbage. You're not going to be eating bread. You're going to be eating bugs and living in a pod. And that's what I wonder about all this. When they say you will owe nothing and you will be happy, maybe what they're not saying, people think they're saying they're going to take the world from you.

Maybe what they're really saying is when the war happens, you ain't getting none of this stuff no matter what you do. The food's going to be going to the soldiers, to the frontline. Resources and everything will be straight into war. And what will you have? Worthless green pieces of paper. To be honest, digital numbers on a computer screen. We'll see rationing all over again.

During the Second World War, that was a reality. People could only consume so many resources regardless of their level of wealth because the government was saying, we need to use this rubber or fuel or food for the war effort. So let me ask you guys what makes more sense, that powerful elites in Europe and the USA want you to eat bugs because of their ideology, or they were preparing you for eating bugs because ain't going to be no food when war breaks out. Well, I think it's a combination. I think that if your ideology is so corrupt and you hold breaks out well i i think it's a combination i think that if your ideology is so corrupt and you hold human life so cheap then it's inevitably going to be the case

you'll make the sorts of reckless decisions that will result in your economy being destroyed and people ended ending up being plunged into warfare which will destroy their resources and lower their quality of life i don't think that it needs to be either or i mean yeah exactly i think that there there are ample reasons for ideologically possessed people that are in positions of power to say look you shouldn't be eating steak you shouldn't be eating all this beef you should you know and and red meat and stuff you should be eating something that's simpler and something that's better for the planet because there are people that truly believe that the world is overpopulated and that we need to significantly decrease

the number of people on earth because we keep devouring the resources and we can't produce enough resources and food to sustain the population that we have. And while I don't believe that, I do believe that there are probably a considerable number of people in positions of power that are capable of doing something about it and actually affecting populations and policy that will, could, or at least could significantly lower the population of the earth. And I think that the global warming alarmism that you see is the most likely method.

So things like, you know, you can't have cows because they are bad for the environment and these bugs are better for the environment are compelling arguments to people that are already ideologically kind of aligned or are used to getting beat down with the world is ending because of climate change kind of thing. So I don't think that it needs to be one or the other.

I think that there are multiple reasons why people in positions of power would want to say, look, you can't live the life that you've been living and you need to roll back your standard of living. Do you guys remember that there was a document that went viral from some security contractor that claimed the U.S. population would be reduced by like 60%? We talked about this. I never remembered seeing that document. Because it was erased from everywhere. Based on what, though? So there, we don't know, some kind of defense contractor put together a report talking about future plans,

and it listed the populations of many countries as having been reduced by like 30 to 40 percent or something like that, or more. And the document was deleted. I don't think we ever got a real explanation for it. I'm not saying it means it's true. I hate conspiracy theories. So, you know, for all we know, they were creating a hypothetical scenario in the event of war or something like that. But then the archives all got deleted, they were creating a hypothetical scenario in the event of war or something like that. But then the archives all got deleted. And now it's really hard to find any information. It is as if it has been erased from the Internet.

It makes you wonder about what's really being talked about behind the scenes. Because, look, for all we know, Occam's Razor suggests this is just a nonsense document. Some random guy said the population would go down or something like this. But as we see more and more signs of major conflict escalating, like the clustering munitions thing is a nonsense document. Some random guy said the population would go down or something like this. But as we, we see more and more signs of major conflict escalating, like the clustering munitions thing is a big deal. There's, there's fears of the Zaporizhia plant being blown up. I believe it's a Zaporizhia one,

right? That's where they're saying that the Russians have lined explosives all around it or something like that. I don't know. I don't know. You know, you get propaganda on both sides and you got to figure out who you want to trust. But isn't it convenient for all of us, as Norma Donald pointed out, that the good guys won every war?

Keep that in mind as you as you consider the news that's coming out today with all of these major conflict stories. But also, I think it's important to think about. I talked about this during COVID. And I don't know if we were talking about the context of war, but what is the one thing that is guaranteed that COVID did? It got people to move out of cities. Yeah. It decentralized our economy. You had everybody working from the office. If that office got destroyed for some reason, let's say everybody's working in an office and the fire breaks out and people get trapped inside.

That company's gone. Let's say you push everybody to remote work and get them out of cities. That office gets caught in a fire. Your company still exists. Digital economy. People are able to communicate, facilitate, and keep working. So it made me wonder when we saw COVID and the main result was large exodus of major economic power from large cities. Decentralizing the US economy sure was helping us prepare, whether intentionally or not, for a major conflict. If New York were to get nuked now, our economy would still function to a great degree because many of these people who run

these systems have left and they've spread out even. So it's harder to target. Pre-COVID, with all of the big heads of industry in San Francisco, in California, in New York, many in Chicago, a single nuclear weapon, your economy's gone. Post-COVID, not so much. They're not going to be able to target the CEOs in all these different random places. Even celebrities and actors are moving all over the place. They're not in the same place anymore. The people running these blue states are secret heroes.

They're trying to get everybody out of the cities. Russia still, I mean, Russia still is the country that has the most nuclear weapons in the world. Are their nukes as powerful as ours, though? I don't know. I'm not 100% sure of the yield. I think they're more powerful. They have the Satan 2 tidal wave bomb or whatever it's called.

Some of them, in fact, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever built was by the Soviets. Sarabomb. Was it only ever used at a quarter yield or somewhere half half yeah 100 megatons was the the design and they only used 50 i think is the is and the the bomber that dropped it fell two kilometers from the sky in the shock wave because it when then it recovered oh my gosh yep oh my gosh that's terrifying i mean imagine what they have now i don't think it's nuclear weapons i think they're well they're way beyond this stuff i mean we're talking about a

weapon from 100 years ago yeah a 100 year old bomb come on they got something else already for sure yeah antimatter weapons how much you want to bet they have antimatter bombs well i mean look we know that different countries have been creating bio weapons and we just know this because uh one was released now sir francis boyle uh who was the author of the american implementing legislation for the bio weapons convention has stated as a lawyer that these are if anything made with gain of function research is classified as a bio weapon so that's not even like a conspiracy theory or a hot take that is the author of the legislation that governs these affairs specifically stating

these are biooweapons, like anything made through gain-of-function research. And we know gain-of-function research is happening. So who knows what's been created? Who knows the kinds of ugly things that have been engineered by scientists that could be unleashed onto the public at any moment? So we learned during COVID that Asians were more susceptible to the virus because they have more ACE2 receptors.

Think about something like that. We know that this particular group of people has more of one type of receptor in their lungs. Therefore, they may be more susceptible to a virus. Now, think about how they're going to make bioweapons. They're going to be like, hey, this particular group of people is susceptible to this particular thing. And then one day, everyone in that country is very sick.

That's bioweapons. And there will be collateral damage yeah well no we also know like based on the part of the world you're in and a lot of genetic factors you can be more or less susceptible to diseases this is the entire point that gets brought up anytime anyone wants to discuss like colonization and the conquistadors the fact that the spanish were totally immune to the diseases they were bringing over so they didn't even know they had them someone could theoretically engineer viruses and disease that would be more likely to wreak havoc on populations of different people genetically.

That's terrifying. I always get real, and I don't know how realistic this is because I have no idea about how bugs are engineered or anything, but the idea of Ebola with a three-week incubation period or two-week incubation period. An airborne Ebola. Yeah, just spreads around.

It takes weeks before you just start puking and bleeding out your eyes. And you're contagious the entire time. The idea of that just terrifies the absolute crap out of me because that would run wild through the whole country. And then you would have basically everyone in this country demanding lockdowns. Oh, yeah.

We did talk about this, too. I think Ian asked the question. When we were like, oh, we're all against lockdowns, he was like, what if it was an airborne Ebola? And I was like, that's a tough question, because now you're looking at people puking up their organs and stuff in the middle of the street. But the issue is still, you have a right to choose

if you want to take that risk. Well, but there's another point here. I think a lot of the argument against, like, vaccinations or forced vaccinations or lockdowns or whatever it is they aren't necessarily axiomatic arguments they're questions of whether factors are such that it justifies it so if you did have an ebola if there was an ebola like a 99 transmission rate and 99 mortality rate 100 you lock things down except you have a trust of the government that's true yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly but i'm saying if that really is the case and you really have those numbers of course people are going to say yeah do it but that's the thing it's it's not even going to be

a question because if you've got if you got like people like in mass just like puking and dying in the streets and stuff like that people are going to voluntarily be like, get the F out of here. Get away from my house. I'm not going out. It would be a lockdown that was completely voluntary. The police and, I mean, the only people that would be going to work would be like doctors that actually could do something. And if even, because a lot of times when you get to something, if you get to something that dramatic, there'd be a lot of people that are just like i'm staying home with my family yeah no i i definitely agree with you it would mostly be voluntary my point is simply that when you get to a certain point of transmission and mortality with the disease lockdowns are going to be more or less

justifiable what will destroy the world incubation period of two weeks airborne high mortality and a disease that takes four to six weeks to kill you so escalating degrees of severity uh let's talk about the absolute you know worst case scenario because if we're talking about actual engineered bioweapons these things are going to be horrifying we're talking about a virus that is airborne transmissible when a person is asymptomatic a couple weeks incubation period high mortality rate it would be impossible to stop unless everyone locked their doors and no one did anything ever again what are the chances of a government actually trying to build that virus i think 100 yeah i mean we may have it now i mean they're not you know gonna tell us what's going on. Why wouldn't they do it?

I mean, look at nuclear weapons. They can wipe out a whole city with a single MIRV. I mean, they can wipe out multiple cities with a MIRV. 12 warheads in one ICBM. I hate these acronyms. Let's try this again. 12 warheads in one multiple independently targeting reentry vehicles. And that's what a MIRV is.

It's an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. You'd say like MIRV and ICBM and people are like, I have no idea what you just said. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's tough. Are we sitting here spinning our wheels and wasting our time arguing about culture war nonsense? No. When you go to the highest levels and you see this is the case let's let's let's talk about the realm of domestic politics in this regard if donald trump's worldview is is really let's not have the war that destroys the

planet let's shore up our borders protect the united states bring back manufacturing and become self-sufficient because the long fall is coming and the alternative is no let's go all out take over the world and destroy bricks by any means necessary so that we can stay on top of the world which do you choose i think i think i think the trump angle is the is the is the better one well absolutely it not just practically speaking but morally speaking not only would that there would be so much bloodshed and lost life if we tried doing something like that, but it assumes that other nations don't have the right to develop currencies while we're debasing ours. It assumes that other nations should be forced into dollar slavery and have to hold this asset, this currency, while we're abusing it and showing them we don't respect it ourselves.

Here's the challenge. The Chinese Communist Party is pretty dang evil. They are very evil. Absolutely. So there's the other argument of, if we just decide, you know what, we're going to close our doors, to a great degree, not completely, but we're going to bolster the American economy and we're going to focus on ourselves,

China's going to keep expanding. They're not going to stop. Well, it depends. I mean, firstly, China does get a lot of money from the united states just with respect to the business that we do with them so if we just started doing everything domestically it would be painful for us but i also think it'd be very painful for them i'll also add that if we were to go to war with china over human rights abuses if there was like a real legitimate reason for us to go to war if you went through all the tenets of just war theory and they all lined up, then yeah. But that's a different question than just going to war with them over them wanting to use a currency that isn't ours. Okay.

The justification is a massive part of it. Yeah. I think everyone was just in agreement with you, Seamus. Good. Good. I like that. Perfect. Shimcast, IRL. Here here we are there you go I mean I don't know the the whole the question is what does a regular family do

uh-huh yeah well that I mean that's and that's a very good question you've said this on the show before uh but at the risk of sounding like a broken record I'll say it again for you I I believe it's a good idea for people to get out of blue areas, generally speaking, not even necessarily because of this question, but just the fact that blue states and blue cities end up having really bad policies. There are going to be a lot of people there

who are not a good influence for you and your family. So I'll put that out there. And then it's recommended by federal agencies, even in the United States, that you should have some emergency food stored up. I think people should do that. Just try to live as moral a life as possible. People aren't going to be surprised to hear this from me because this is the advice I'm going to give in every situation.

But get close to Jesus Christ. Really get right with God. Live a moral life. And then if something horrible ends up happening, if America ends up being destroyed, well, you lived a good life. You did the right thing. You formed the proper relationship with the truth. Let's jump to some domestic politics here, because we have this story out of

Georgia. Actually, it was trending earlier in the day. Georgia's state representative makes moral decision to leave party. Rep. Mesha Maynor quit the Democratic Party and has joined the GOP, saying for far too long, the Democrat Party has gotten away with using and abusing the black

community. that's it she's from district 56 she is uh been in since january of 2021 she ran unopposed by a republican challenger in the 2020 and 22 democrat primary elections in the state and now she's quitting won't be it's not the first time won't be the last time but i have to wonder what uh what's in store for us in 2024 if this trend continues because the reality is we're not seeing the inverse trend no this idea of republicans jumping ship and becoming democrats is just not a thing it happens sometimes but not really typically it's neocons and people who want war siding with neolibs who agree with them on war but when it comes to

cultural issues like her issue with school choice democrats say outright no do as you're told and she was like i'm out i'm out i i think that that what you mentioned about it not going the other way that it's not really neocon or not really conservatives or whatever i think that they all kind of beat feet in 2016 if the if you were like a if you were anti-Trump or whatever and you were an establishment type Republican, they kind of had already have already left the party and they did it years ago. So would speak to speak to this phenomenon of Democrats. I mean, you see it. You see it in the you know, in the political space, but you also see it it you know with uh what's her name anna kasparian um there was another leftist that had recently come out and and left you know essentially left

the left and a lot of it is because they find out that the narrative that is spun by the left generally does not map onto the truth or doesn't map on onto reality um and there are going to be people that are going to disagree about the places where it doesn't map onto reality but i think that the lgbt issues when it comes to transitioning kids is where the breaking point for most people are it's like look you cannot you cannot have trans kids you cannot have kids that are prepubescent that you're encouraging not just allowing but encouraging at times to live their lives as if they're a different uh you know as if they're they have they're biologically different that is unacceptable to the mass majority of the uh of the population and i think that that's starting to show when it comes

to you know i don't know the specific reasons that uh that rep what's her name rep what maynor misha maynor maynor i don't know why she specifically left i don't know you know i haven't read her specific story school choice was the big issue she wanted parents to be able to she was concerned that many of these schools were so awful that these kids were struggling to learn how to read and that parents should have a right to take their kid and put them in a better school and the democrats were like no shut your mouth see and that should be something that is is that should be something that is is really important to especially poor communities and communities that have have kids that aren't you know making they're graduating with with a third grade or fourth grade reading level.

Like, that is a huge concern. And that's something that you hear about all the time. So, you know, more power to her. I think that that's something that more people should be concerned about. Absolutely agree. There are a lot of issues that people say shouldn't be political. And most of the time, when I hear that phrase, I roll my eyes. It's like, well, too bad. It is political. That's how this country works. We have one party that's heinously evil um not to say every individual person in the party realizes that but yeah what the party wants is disgusting and horrible and will destroy the country but when it comes to school choice i just want to finish this thought when it comes to school choice it is it's so obvious from any framework from any framework that this is the right thing let parents choose where they send their kids to school don't force kids to stay

stuck in failing school systems now i don't know why i would have the expectation that people who think it's okay to groom and mutilate kids and kill unborn babies would see that also maybe parents shouldn't be forced to put their kids in failing schools but even without those other two questions that people end up being tied up with their party's language on and not examining critically with the school choice stuff you just got to think it's whenever they say things like you're going to destroy or defund the public school system what they're acknowledging is parents would choose anything besides the public school system if they had a choice so even their own arguments against school choice or arguments for school choice. I wanted to say real quick, up until recently,

both parties were discernibly evil. Yeah. And then you had this insurgency with Bernie and with Donald Trump. And then Bernie showed himself to be quite a bit duplicitous. And Trump showed himself to be particularly anti-establishment in some areas. And so what you end up with now is a lot of people of influence in the republican party who oppose war who oppose these things that are objectively evil and objectively evil and objectively evil and now you have still the neocons trying to claw back power in the republican party

to once again restore the two massively evil machines in this in this country yeah no well i think you're right that all the elements of the republican party that it ended up shedding during the trump administration at least the bad elements are ones that people want to restore i think there's things the republican party uh shed uh as a result of the trump paradigm and him taking over the party that i don't think the republican party should have shed i think the republican party's become too socially liberal but when it comes to the warfare issue oh yeah i mean i'm it's one of his greatest accomplishments was pushing the neocons into the democratic party yeah who was it was it mike pence recently somebody some republican was like we don't care about culture

war issues that are stupid i saw that yeah who was that i don't remember we care about economic issues it's like that's you're so wrong but oh firstly firstly the two are unbelievably closely linked that this is i understand sometimes we want to separate issues into economic issues and social issues and sometimes that can make sense but broadly speaking it's not possible it's really not possible um your social views are going to inform your economic views i don't understand how that could possibly not be the case but even so to say well you know like i'm really interested in slicing the top marginal tax rate by three percent um and i'm not concerned by the fact that children are being abused and systemically groomed through this

horrible school system i disagree i disagree jimmy door is left a lot of economic stuff but not on a bunch of other weird creepy stuff sure no i i totally agree but i think that he would tell you that his moral vision for america is holistic and combines his economic and moral perspective yes even though i would disagree with him right on how he applies those principles you take a look at this uh mesha maynor democrat who's now a republican and this is a good example of someone who's like yo i i disagree with this one issue and they say basically get out of the party the democratic party is basically the party of are you in the cult or not and anybody not in that cult is right wing it's is this how the media works kind of hilarious i mean you can you can think about in any in any context

jimmy door the dude advocates for very socialist policies they'll call him right wing however considering he is fairly socialist on a lot of issues they struggle with it you take a look at how they refer to me liberal on on most on many issues traditionally not modern leftism and they'll say that's right wing because the only thing that matters and what this democrat is realizing either you march in lockstep with the cult or you get out yes i don't care what they call me i'm not marching like step with them have you guys seen that video where they're all holding their hands up and they're like i will respect my black brothers and sisters you never saw that one let me pull that one up it's such a blatant virtue signal i feel like it's a cult bro and i'll mention this um you know the democrats will say

if you disagree with us on like 0.5% of our values, you're an evil fascist or whatever. The right, I think, has become far too inclusive on the other end where we just say anyone. What is funny, what the left says is, if you disagree with the left on 0.5% of anything, you're not on the left. And we say, and you're on the right. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. They're not necessarily on the right just because the left doesn't like them. It's not to say we can't work with them on the area where there's agreement. It's just to say we have to have some way to define these terms. Like just because the left is way too strict and purist doesn't mean that we abandon principle.

Let me play this clip. Yeah. I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible. I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible. And do everything in my power to educate my community. And do everything in my power to educate my community. Look at this. I will love my black neighbors the same as my white ones. That's colorblindness.

Look at this. You don't think it's a code when you say it. Is that a white person saying it too? Yes, of course of course like that is the whitest group of people that i have seen reflective join the call that is definitely in vermont worse something like that hey come in hampshire i don't see anyone complaining about the fact that these are all white people either how we're talking about that post on facebook or twitter the call is cassidy how

many videos do we need to show people to be like yo this is a cult that's super i'm not exaggerating i'm not being cute i'm not being derisive i'm being factual and academic in saying the modern left is a cult it is a large cult yeah to be clear they're praying like that's what they're doing they're praying that's a prayer ceremony right there they have a leader up there who's leading worship, and they're chanting, but that is prayer. That's what's happening there. It's the same thing as a confession of faith to Catholicism, or it's the same idea. It's their—they're confessing that they're a member of that particular ideology. No, this is like a prayer service.

Yeah. Yeah, that's more or less what I'm saying. This is like when you go to a church, and, you know, the preacher's up at the front of the priest, depending on which group of Christians you're talking about, and he's stating something and the congregation repeats it. I mean, when we're talking about, like, ancient prayers that have a precedent and point to something true, good, and beautiful, that can be a wonderful thing. When we're talking about ideological language that was invented 10 years ago in order to shame you for the color of your skin. Well, I think it's pretty creepy, but ultimately it is prayer. It is prayer. And there's nothing wrong with prayer and religion in and of itself, but there is something wrong with these prayers in this religion because

they're wrong. Very wrong. Dangerously wrong. You need to make a better argument than that. Nuh-uh. Like the way, the way I think about any kind of true religious prayer is sort of a name, any kind of true religious prayer yeah is sort of a name the religion that believes in a higher

power and prayer is effectively an admission or uh you know in some way it's rooted in knowing you are not the end-all be-all it is not all about you exactly there is something greater and beyond you and there is a component of reaching out to the universe to god or whatever it is you believe so i don't i don't believe that prayer in this context is just specifically rooted rooted to one religion in that context you know seamus you might say christianity catholicism is the correct one the rest of people are praying to nothing or whatever whatever you want to describe it my point is this this is prayer to a person yeah well exactly so i would say that these people are praying to a person a human one specific yeah so well so so

what i would say is that obviously christianity is correct i think sometimes people in like certain pagan religion religions are like praying to demons or praying to themselves or if it's someone who hasn't been introduced to christianity before and they're like trying to find god you know and they're just innocently asking questions i think it's possible for god to you know hear that but that said um i think that what you're seeing here is a kind of self-worship because these people are able to fit in with the group by chanting these words and it's more or less about that it's more or less about fitting in virtue signaling saying i'm one of you guys i have the trendy opinion that's a scary video man it's very scary creeps me out i don't like it i i you know to be honest with you i don't mind it because i'm hoping that there can be some kind of uh some something

brought to the supreme court to get that whole ideology declared a religion so that way you can have it completely and totally quarantined from legislation well let it interesting have it have it be declared a religion so that way people can exercise their religion, they can live their life that way, believe what they want, just keep it completely and totally isolated from state power. So the government can't give any kind of past laws based on any of the ideology. Well, I think what people have to contend with is a problem that has existed ever since we started talking about

a separation of church and state, which is that we have determined that one set of moral truth claims should be placed in this category called religion and other sets of truth claims, even if made about the exact same thing, because they don't openly claim that they reference a creator or a god

are not to be considered religious and therefore can meddle with legal processes the reality is these views are fundamentally religious because an ideology is basically just a false religion that doesn't expressly purport to worshiping any kind of god and so you have a religion you have competing religions but these ones because they don't call themselves that because they call themselves something else are able to you know have themselves declared legally as national or state religions basically we we need a a good legal understanding of what a religion is the supreme court has a i'll google it because they actually have a specific definition.

And I believe it includes, like, belief in a deity or something like that. No, it couldn't. It couldn't. Because then Buddhism, I think, is out. Well, yeah, people have argued about that before, like, Buddhism, because it doesn't technically say that there are, I think some interpretations don't. I'm not a Buddhism expert. Yeah, I don't think Buddhists believe in God.

I think it might does it does it depend on the buddhist or do they all just say there is no god because i've i remember learning about it as an atheistic religion but i i think some might believe that there is yeah i think i think i think buddhism doesn't necessarily require you to believe or not to believe in a higher power yeah like like base buddhism does not like it the buddha himself would have said that's that's incorrect because it's a life path essentially it's not that wouldn't be real buddhism i sound so cringe saying that but uh no the the point is that those are heretic buddhists essentially yes like honoring buddha and rubbing his belly and things like that are

are human things that have come up later on they're not actually part of the original core idea that buddha sattva set out when he was on earth he didn't it was not his thing but they would say they're all human things though right if they don't believe in a god um well they believe in enlightenment uh they do believe in a state of being beyond beyond that which would be akin to like heaven but again like rubbing the belly and all that stuff like that are human idols that have been created in time on that. Interesting. I don't see anything that specifies the definition. It brought me to the, it was autocorrecting to scouts, as in the Boy Scouts at first.

So I'm still looking at it. I don't see anything, though. So what do you think when you see stuff like this? I think it should be classified as a religion. I mean, it might as well be. I don't know. It's really creepy to see them worshiping i mean what is it that they're worshiping just the the themselves yeah there's nothing else there right there's no

ethos there's no moral structure there's no plan there's no path it's literally just will you repeat the words i say and yes or no absolutely yeah well and i think some element of it is also a humiliation ritual because all right, so let's say we just take their words. I don't remember every single thing they said, but one thing is I will like love my, I will love my black neighbors just as much as my white neighbors. Now, this is like someone stands you up at the front of the room and they're like, I need you to say in front of me that like you're not going to go you know hurt innocent people okay well the fact that you're being asked that is an indictment of you and the fact that you would take that question seriously suggests that you do need to answer that question uh because we can't really be sure about you so there's a strong element of a humiliation ritual to this which

if you're trying to abuse people which is effectively what happens with bad religions and ideologies is you're just kind of abusing your congregation well you want to see them prove that they're willing to humiliate themselves for you they're willing to put up with any kind of treatment james lindsey makes a compelling argument that it's gnosticism that and which it boils down to kind of like like the the the existing religions that people are familiar with, like your Abrahamic religions, those are actually the devil and that there is a God behind them that's hidden from everybody. And that God is real God in reality, and the God is in everyone. So you hear people say, there's a lot of times where people will make remarks

that they don't realize are actually like a cult or Gnostic, but when people say, God's in everybody, I don't think there's anything that's Catholic that says that God is actually in everyone. But the Gnostic religion kind of and this is not all agnostic like the gnosis like agnostic heresy almost yeah yeah it's called the heresy important to say that important to say that so so it's like it's as if god is in everybody and the ideal is to have everybody realize that they are god and then once everyone realizes that they

are god that's the action that's the beginning of history or the end of history depending on the way that you you are describing it um but yeah it's it's people believing that they are god and they want to transcend their bodies to to to become one with god or whatever and that's that's part of why the the trans community transhumanism kind of mixes into it too because they believe that their bodies are prisons and if you talk to people on the left a lot of times when they're describing the way that they have their their their outlook on life is they look at the world being unfair and their bodies a prison and they're not really free. And you hear that through the left when it comes to like, oh, if you have to go to work, then you're not really free.

That's articulating that they believe that their own body and maintaining their own body is actually imprisoning them. And they can't be their true selves because they have to go to work. And these are these are themes that you hear the left talk. And I'm talking about the far left. But these are things that you hear the left talk. And I'm talking about the far left, but these are things that you hear the left talking about frequently. And it lines up with the idea that it's, it's a Gnostic ideology or Gnostic heresy. Yeah.

I mean, it's interesting. There's a couple of things there. And of course, like we believe as Christians that like every, every human has God's image and likeness on them. Yeah. But that's not saying you're God.

But there's not saying, yeah, not exactly, exactly. That's basically what the devil says. am god that's that that was his claim now i also think that you touched on a very important point which is that in Gnosticism there's this kind of idea that like the flesh itself is evil and that you can transcend it in the sense that your mind can be something other than what your body is and it's superior um and the internal state of someone who says they're a woman when they're

clearly a man must be honored above the actual physical reality because not only do the two not conform but the the quote unquote spiritual reality is higher gnosticism is a little bit difficult to pin down just because it's similar to the new age movement in the sense that there's different kinds of varieties but generally yeah i think you're right that there's this heavy element of Gnostic spiritualism to all of it. Yeah, this like Gnosis, this case of Gnosis, of like only your knowledge and only your truth is the truth that matters, not objective truth.

There is no objective reality. Yeah, and I think that's where I see it as well. That's what I think is Gnostic in that sense. And one of the things that I have heard people, heard again, Lindsay was talking about this is that a lot of the gnostic uh cults that have been have existed in history actually kind of like mask themselves onto existing religions so they'll say to to christians or whatever they say well well god you know you're getting this information from your priest or whatever, but I know this other part that is actually your religion,

but it's a secret part, and that's where the gnosis comes from. They know the secret. The esoteric knowledge. Exactly. The esoteric knowledge, the secret hidden religion, and it's actually your religion, but your whole religion, not the piece that's only been hit because you've only been given given a little piece because the people that are in power want

to stay in power so they only give you a little bit i have the gnosis i have the knowledge to give to you and it's done a whole and throughout history gnostic has gnostics have used that type of argument to infiltrate religions that exist and and kind of you know turn like a symbiotic relation no not a symbiote like a parasite i guess well they'll do the same thing i have the real science science actually says biological sex doesn't exist i can make that claim let's show to the story from abc news kansas must stop changing trans people's sex listing on driver's licenses judge says a A state court judge has ordered Kansas to stop allowing trans people to change the listing

for sex on their driver's license. This one caused a lot of contentious issues there on the internet, as many people on the left are saying it's far-right fascism, etc., etc. But my question with this story is actually quite simple, the reason why I wanted to bring it up in this conversation.

If the left continually says sex and gender are different why would a trans person ever change their sex on a birth certificate or driver's license when they are not in fact changing their sex they are just can they're trying to affirm or confirm their gender which is a social construct yeah well right this is how it started they created this nonsensical distinction between sex and gender gender is a term that was only used to describe language so they took something that only referred to inanimate objects or i shouldn't even call it an object but an artifact of language and they applied it to humans which already has dehumanizing connotations to it but hold on they didn't do that

we did it because of what words naturally acquired meaning. No, no, no. Hold on. John Money coined the term gender identity. Absolutely. And then on government documents, it'll ask you your gender, not your sex. Yes. Yes. So it's not referring to the male or female nature of a word. It eventually came to mean biological sex. Exactly. So what happened was because people were uncomfortable saying sex and wanted a euphemism, they would just say gender instead. So in some instances it was used interchangeably. And then sometimes it was used to say, well, your sex and gender identity are two different things because your sex is the biological reality and your gender is the

expression. And they said that for a very long time to get people to accept transgenderism, but now they've pushed the two back together. And what do they say? Oh, actually your gender is also your biological sex. Because if you say this is what you are, we have to also say that that's what your biological sex is. So the issue here is there is a reason why we ask for the sex of the individual, typically for medical reasons. I mean, that's basically it. We can see the picture of your face on the card. If we want to know it's you, we'll look at the picture on your face. The reason sex is listed is literally in case someone needs to identify your biology and they can't tell. Some people are naturally feminine looking and some women are naturally masculine looking. There are instances where people are androgynous. And so let's say you have a heart attack and you collapse.

Medical person is going to come in. Do they have an ID on them? They're going to look at your ID and be like, okay, they're female. Okay, we know a bit about their body. It's going to be in do they have an id on them they're going to look at your id and be like okay they're female okay we know a bit about their body it's going to be different from a male body yeah changing it does nothing to inform anyone of anything quite the opposite actually so if the real issue is they want to affirm their gender and they believe gender and sex are different things to the point where there are non-binary people simply because they don't want to wear a suit or a dress then why would you ever

change sex on a on a government document yeah well because you constantly need the constructions of your own mind to be validated and you constantly need a grievance so you're just going to keep pushing it down the line saying like well you've accepted my gender identity but you don't accept my sex i mean it's all nonsense but you're absolutely right you need to know a person's sex medically especially if they're unconscious and they can't communicate it to you like you described. Different medicines might be able to be used in a specific situation, but not another one, like depending on your sex.

It's also true of dosages of medicines. Well, so this is this is the one of the principal identifiers of it being a cult. The left adheres to things that make no sense for no reason other than you must. That's it. The larger group agrees on a concept and you must fall in line with whatever the majority of that cult believes and does even if it serves no purpose or makes no sense.

If you disagree, in fact, this is actually probably the principal component of the cult. The ultimate test. Will you agree to something that is not true yes or no and so as you can see many of these people will come out and say gender and sex are different and you'll say okay and they'll say also a person can change their sex you're like hold on hold on if a non if a person is gender fluid their gender can change and if a person is gender fluid, their gender can change. And if a person wants to get gender confirmation surgery, they are confirming their gender, not their sex.

You're now conflating sex and gender as a single thing while simultaneously arguing. And you've challenged us exposing yourself. I think to a great degree, the point of holding contradictory claims is so that people who aren't falling in line with the cult expose themselves exactly do you what what do you feel about this do you think this is a horrible bigoted thing i think it's ridiculous i mean it's all about their affirmation you know and they need to you know everyone needs to confirm what they are but it's definitely two different things and medically i mean it's important to know when when somebody arrives in the emergency room and there's you know a problem there's different you know ways

to go about approaching the patient so yeah i mean i think there are medications yeah or or even like cpr i think is a little bit different or you know there's all kinds of different things but this is just it's it's right you're right it's a cult and it's either you you know go in lockstep with what they say or you're bummed out which is why i think the lady you had on earlier that's great that she finally you know but they only took one thing it only took one thing for her to go against and then well apparently it's been a year it's been a couple years and she's finally like okay i can't do this anymore right i i wonder how far off we are from them just removing the sex category from a driver's license and having you put your pronouns there and that's it that's all we need to know pronouns are also another thing it's all meant to identify you as a part of the cult that that that's really that's really it

i think it's all i i think it also adds to that element of there being a humiliation requirement or humiliation ritual i mean before this ideology infested everything the idea that you would ask someone whether you should call them he or she would be and should be considered incredibly insulting right are you talking about well hold on you can't tell i i i would welcome anybody there's a meme going around where it's like i tried the the the lizzo test that's what they called it oh no and they like my and and my uh my aunt started crying they they basically said he said he went up to his aunt and said in a polite way you look like a trans woman and he said his aunt started crying that's mean and he was like but she was very liberal and very pro-trans and was arguing and

saying all this stuff and then he said something like well you know you look like a trans woman and then she got really angry and started crying and his point was like why are you crying if you like and respect trans women and you think they're good and beautiful why would you cry if someone called you that because they're lying they're yeah they're in a cult she knew he wasn't calling her brave right yeah yeah that's not what that implies yep so i'm kind of thinking about this like in the future i'm not going to ask someone if they if where they are politically i'm going to say are you are you in the cult or or not in the cult and then just see what they say because i've had like liberal family members be like you're saying that i'm in a cult i disagree with you and i'm like no i'm saying you're in a cult because you

believe things that are contradictory and you're too afraid to say anything against the contradictions because people will attack you and you fear that yeah see other people will be like that quite doesn't make sense whether or not they get attacked one is free knowing freedom is dangerous and the others are scared into saying things that don't make sense and contradict themselves like two plus two equals five out of fear of what might happen to them socially one's a cult one's not yeah no exactly i mean we in all of us disagree on certain things i don't think we've ever really like accused each other of being cult members on the basis of those disagreements so the idea that we're just gonna claim anyone who's outside of our values is a cult member is ridiculous it's not about that

like this is a particularly strange set of values that have incredibly strict standards it's not even a set of values dude well values is a term that can just refer to what somebody like literally values and the things they value are very bizarre when we had a particular leftist on this show we're talking about these books the shockingly gratuitous books in schools yeah and she goes so you're in favor of abstinence only sex ed? And I was like, no. And she was, oh. I'm like, because you're in a cult, right? You can't

comprehend contradictions. It's all just, anything the left says must be true no matter what, and anyone who disagrees must be the other. With me or against me. That's it. But look at who you, I mean, it is worth taking into consideration who you were dealing with and and the point of them but that's most of these people well they're they're not they're look there are intelligent political commentators

hey surprise surprise they tend to fall in a similar set of beliefs we can talk about uh destiny a liberal guy but he has no issue coming here and and having a discussion because he actually believes things and it's having a real conversation about them yeah then you have cult members who will say literally anything so long as it fits the cult narrative right it's not about politics yeah like destiny would look at the information he'd change his opinion he's not going to like totally be disingenuous he'll look at something show cc facts and see numbers like oh okay you're right about that whereas many other people would look at the numbers or just completely look beyond them just so when you mentioned the people we're talking to there's a reason why when we have

destiny on and have this conversation it's not generating millions of millions of clips and millions of views and when we have a cult member on it does yeah because destiny is not a cult member exactly and so people are not he's he's he may as well be considered right wing of them at this point well but seriously no your political positions do not determine whether or not you are left or right anymore yeah i mean as long as you anger that group to some extent they're going to label you far right not just right wing but like far right and fast if you say that joe biden there is evidence that he engaged in corrupt activities, insert

whichever one you are now conservative. If you make a movie criticizing child trafficking, they call it a conservative movie. Yes. They call it faith based religion. It's sound of freedom was just a movie. They call it. They call it QAnon fodder and it's pro QAnon. And it's what else do they say about it?

That it's it's for dads with brain worms or something? I think that was the Rolling Stone review that was published. I wonder why people connected to Hollywood are so concerned about a movie that sheds awareness on child trafficking becoming popular. This is the point. There's nothing political in the movie. Nothing.

It's a law enforcement agent tracking down criminals and saving kids. But you know what else? And here's the thing. you're correct that that's not political but to them it is not only for some of the more nefarious reasons we could point to but just portraying law enforcement in a positive light is already a massive issue for them true it it does speak to the fact that the left the left does politicize everything and and they're going to be people that or there would be people that would push back on that and say, well, Phil,

you know, the right does it too, or, or whatever. But if you look at the philosophy of the, of the left and the, the thinkers on the left, the idea of the personal is political came from the left.

Like that, that's what the, the early feminists were saying. I think it was the feminist that first started saying the personal is political political and it's something that expands to to other uh types of leftism or other genres of leftism or whatever the the lgbt issues that we see right now are because they demand sexuality to be a political topic it doesn't't have to be. It could be simply, look, you don't teach children sex ed, possibly at all, because human beings have figured it out for a couple hundred thousand years

that human beings have been human before we had government schools. So it's not like it's necessary to ensure the survival of the population for the government to explain how sex works. That's not necessary at all. But the reason to have these things in school is because they can be made political. If you can cast something in a political light and make young people start asking political questions when they're, you know, 10,

11, 12, then you can make activists out of them. And that's the goal. The intent is to make activists out of kids. So whether it be LGBT issues or whatever the, the dynamic is, whether it be race issues or whatever,

anytime you can get young people activated politically, you're going to get a portion of them that are going to become committed political actors, and they're going to become the activists of, you know, the next generation and stuff. And so the point is to politicize as much as possible from the left with leftist talking points or with leftist perspectives. That's why you have your average mom and dad that are like, hold on. We want, we don't want our kids to learn this stuff.

And the government's, you know, sending the FBI after, you know, because that's literally what happens. I'm not, I've made up one thing. All of that stuff is factual things that have happened.

So again, I'll get pushback from some of the people that are, that are friends of mine that are left-leaning. And it's like, look, I'm not making any of this up. This is just talking about things that are happening and have happened. So the idea that the person was political is something that lives on the left.

Yeah, no, I mean, I would agree with a lot of that. I would say that, and I don't think you would actually disagree that there are some and probably many massive goals with showing this stuff to kids that go beyond just a mere political statement yes but i will those are opportunists i think those are those are i think it's i think it's a mixture i think they're they're opportunists but i think there actually are people who want to uphold like a kind of systemic grooming and i'll also add here that the reason we have sex out of any form firstly i don't think it's going to shock anyone to hear me say i think this is something that parents should be doing and not schools but the

whole reason we have these programs is to tell people what not to do people are going to figure out what they can do with their bodies all right you have to tell them what they're not supposed to do so to show them a bunch of perverted stuff that they hadn't considered is not sex ed that that is grooming the purpose of sex ed is boundaries don't do this thing don't do this till you're married even like the more comprehensive programs by the way which i don't agree with that terminology i don't agree with teaching kids about birth control but even they'll say don't do this without birth control like the whole point is supposed to be about saying don't do this phil phil brought up uh the fbi i wanted to get jumped

to this story from the post millennial take a look fbi facilitated censorship requests on behalf of ukrainian intelligence agency compromised by kremlin wow that's a mouthful okay so let's slow this down so the ukrainian intelligence agency is going to the fbi and being like we want these ideas censored and they're like you got it boss meanwhile it was actually the russians facilitating it how incredible is this a new report released by the house committee on the judiciary and the select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government has revealed that the fbi under joe biden facilitated censorship requests to american social media companies on behalf of a ukrainian intelligence agency infiltrated by russian aligned actors okay uh let me try to wrap

my head around this does that mean the people who are getting who are doing the censorship are actually russian uh useful idiots i have no idea no no so this this story is russians pretending to be ukrainians got the fbi to censor people so that means the people being censored were being censored at the request of russians joe biden his administration inadvertently colluded with the russians to silence americans yeah joe biden's a russian puppet and i think i can say that with maybe since the 80s because well here's the thing soviet people people accuse donald trump of having been a russian puppet i don't believe that's true. But if he wanted to choose to be a Russian puppet, he could have been.

The thing about Joe Biden is he's in a very precarious position because it's very easy to become a puppet when you don't have a brain. And anyone who sends him any information that is vetted by the people around him who supposedly care about him, who I also don't think are necessarily the brightest minds this country has to offer, can get him to say and do things that are very much not in line with the interests of this country so yeah joe biden censoring people on the behest of a foreign power because there was misinformation spread by that foreign power that eventually reached him is not exactly a shocking thing but i just want to point out once again the democrats were the ones doing what they were accusing the Republicans of doing. As usual. Beyond projection. Also smash the FBI into a thousand pieces and

scatter it to the winds. Just saying. That sounds about right. I guess the larger question is what do we do to solve a problem like this? What do you think? I have no idea. Come on, it needs to be you. You have to figure this out for us right now.

Oh, wow, the pressure. Pressure's on. Yeah, I have no idea, but I mean, you're right. I mean, he's a puppet anyway. You know, you could get him to do just about anything, but that's interesting that they've got it framed like that. The FBI was working on behalf of the Russians? Right.

Wow. That's amazing. Yeah, isn't it? Maybe the real goal is to deflect the U.S. away from what China is doing. The Russians are working with China. The Russians want us preoccupied. Maybe everything they're doing is a distraction so that China can move on Taiwan, which is substantially more important strategically than Ukraine is to Russia.

Before all those new chip fabs can be built in the desert. Yeah. And then think about this the people who get censored on social media tend to be right wing and tend to oppose the war in ukraine yeah that's a good point why would russia want these particular individuals censored unless they were targeting the left or liberals or something like that it'd be interesting it'd be interesting to see what those what the censorship requests were what's what was censored uh at the behest of i guess now russian moles and ukrainian intelligence which is such a crazy statement to make but this is amazing the sbu this is russian intelligence sent the fbi lists of thousands of social media accounts accused of spreading russian

disinformation which the u.s agency then distributed to social media platforms facebook instagram youtube and twitter holy crap wow compromised by russia who could have seen that The U.S. agency then distributed to social media platforms, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and Twitter. Holy crap. Wow. Compromised by Russia. Who could have seen that coming? Not on the bingo card. Yeah.

We've honestly developed a very strange view of Russia over the past five or six years. You guys remember about 10 years ago when Mitt Romney said that Russia was going to become a massive geopolitical threat and everyone laughed at him. And to be fair, rightly so. Mitt Romney is that Russia was going to become a massive geopolitical threat and everyone laughed at him. And to be fair, rightly so Mitt Romney is to be laughed at, but this was something that even the left thought was ridiculous at that time. And then as soon as it became politically advantageous to them to start blaming Russia for everything they did and they haven't stopped, they have not stopped. And now we have a,

the Biden administration, I guess maybe changing their tune on that of course inadvertently it seems joe by jen uh i've been saying that ironically for a while but the more and more that you talk about it potentially being china and russia essentially playing playing blocker for it that's what i kind of think is happening it's unfortunate but that's what i think is happening we talked about world war but that's what I think is happening. We talked about World War III. I guess the question is, is all of this a distraction or what will lead up to, say, the invasion of Taiwan, which is really going to kick things off? There's part of me that thinks that regardless of what happens, what the Chinese do in relation to Taiwan, the U.S. can't really do anything about it. As far, I mean, this is, you know, this is an un-expert opinion because I'm not a geopolitical expert or anything, but I just don't see the United States, you know, having the wherewithal

to actually go to, you know, have any kind of combat in in the south china sea over taiwan if i understand correctly where you know we don't have the munitions the u.s military power is is is down 25 i think is the the recruitment goal that they were down last year that they missed it by um overall i don't know exactly which branch had what the deficit was for each branch but they're not making recruitment goals they're sending all of the bombs and and stuff that we have over to ukraine and our stores of of munitions have run low if i understand correctly so that's but that's also just good for a lot of like the military industrial complex they want to make new ones yeah but what i'm saying is i don't see how that's true and i agree

with you but i don't see how the U.S. is in a position to actually engage in any kind of defense of Taiwan, especially if we're, what amounts to a two-front war, at least logistically, like we don't have people on the front lines in Ukraine, but we're sending munitions to Ukraine as if we're engaged in it.

It's a two-front logistical war. I don't see the U.S. being able to handle that. Well, I mean, I can't speak too much to the tactics or what we have with respect to munitions or anything like that, but what I'm curious about is how the United States would be able to get enough people to sign up to fight in any of these wars i i think a lot of the people who are supporting the russia ukraine war are not people who are going to enlist for combat roles in the u.s military i think that if china were to invade

taiwan there's probably more people who would be willing to enlist to fight that war but i i can't imagine enough people for that to be a possible reality would be willing to enlist to fight that war but i i can't imagine enough people for that to be a possible reality who would be willing to sign up so the question is what does the government do i mean how does the government get people to enlist if if this happens the moment there becomes a true existential threat to the united states all of these leftists are gonna start screaming good the america is bad and it shouldn't exist anyway i think so yeah they're not gonna fight anything they're gonna be like yay yeah or run or or what they'll do is they'll demand that other people fight it for them this is this is something kind of remarkable too when you you look at how much we've uh stratified as a nation how much we've broken apart how little people see themselves as part

of a common project anymore when you look at what happened on 9-11, New York City was attacked and a bunch of guys from the South signed up to fight a war because of it. Do you think that Southerners would enlist to fight a war if New York got attacked today? I think fewer of them probably would. I think we don't see ourselves, because at that time it was understood that was an attack on our nation. I think today we don't really see ourselves as a unified whole. And I think if one part of the country got attacked, way fewer people would feel as if it was an attack on our entire country and they would just see it as an isolated attack on that group of people i don't think we view ourselves the same way we did in 2001 with respect to national loyalty i don't think we see ourselves as as loyal and also i think whether we would sympathize uh with them enough to like enlist in some kind of conflict or whether people in other parts of the country would is also going to be highly dependent on who attacks them i i agree with you pre-attack i think that the temperament of the most people in the US would change post a

dramatic attack I think that your assessment is correct like the way that the the the the stratification of the the population of the US has gone in the past 20 years I think you're you're dead on but I do think that a massive attack that claims a lot of lives or is dramatic would change now i don't think that it would have the same you don't think there'd be any change at all nope i do yeah i still everybody thought that covid would unite the country they're like oh man this this virus no way yeah well i think what i think what might end up happening is there would just be like competing narratives on which political party was to blame even if it was a foreign nation that attacked us people on the left would say this is because the right wasn't too uh wasn't hawkish enough people on the right

would say this is because the left wasn't serious enough about the threat i think it would become a culture war i think it would be absolutely first right if new york would attack today the the left would come out and be like the right wasn't taking russia seriously and we've been screaming and the right would be like oh screw you you know what you're talking about you escalated tensions yeah you were the ones who were causing the fighting in Ukraine. We were trying to tell you to stop. We're not defending you. This is your problem. You cleaned it up.

Yeah, true. Yeah. I don't know. I still think, I mean, when it comes to Taiwan, I think the main reason that China wants Taiwan is partly for political gain inside China. To be able to say, oh, we've united China like we meant to for a long time. It could be Xi. All the Chinese presidents for years had their crowninging achievement it could be what he's using to like

you know uh leave the leave with his good legacy but they need the chip fabrication that's the valuable part and that's so easy to to tamper with to destroy it can be done with by taiwanese people inside the country immediately i don't i don't i know taiwan or ukraine is important for the warm water port for russia i i't know. I just, I just, I think Taiwan as, as, as much as I hate to say it, you know, like it, I don't know if people would be willing to go and jump for that war just as much as they wouldn't be willing to jump for Ukraine. It'd be the same kind of debt stalemate. People aren't going to want to go do it. Yeah. Well, I think also when you look at the country in 2001, people were all willing to

come together and agree that Al Qaeda was an enemy, that they were a real existential threat. Obviously we all believe that that was misapplied in retrospect when you look at the wars we went to but today whether you're talking about russia you're talking about china for the most part the american people have no agreement on who their enemy is other than to agree that our enemy is one another that's what the american people believe today that's how we see the country. We are each other's enemy. Trump said that the threat is not China. It's within our own country.

Let's jump to the story we got from the Postmillennial. We'll talk some domestic politics. My friends, we are entering the beginning of the presidential cycle. So you did have a bunch of announcements. We've seen rallies. But, oh boy, this is where things start to heat up, especially as we get into the next several months when the primary races are going to get hot because early next year, I believe, is when we're going to see all the primary votes actually happen. So the ads are going to start popping up right now. Here's the latest. Trump currently holds a 39% lead among GOP voters nationwide.

What I find truly fascinating is the rate at which Vivek Ramaswamy is skyrocketing. They say with Trump at 59%, DeSantis at 17%, Vivek Ramaswamy is now at number three with 8% and rising. I'm curious, what you guys think? I think

Trump's got it in the bag. I do think I want to add to this, in terms of the Democratic race, it is fascinating that there even is one. There should not be. The precedent for this is that Joe Biden as president is just going to run again. There's no primary, but there is a primary. And get this, RFK Jr. is polling higher comparably with the Democrats than DeSantis is with the Republicans. That I find really interesting. It's not a one-for-one correlation but desantis as probably the leading republican politician in the country like trump's not in office right now and there's nobody else who got anything close to him can't get that close

to trump rfk is at 20 percent doing better in the polls as a non-politician presumably because of how bad joe biden is doing which i find fascinating so how are you feeling are you riding with biden oh yeah no but it is interesting uh because i i feel like there's not that many people that have been uh i mean i don't know when i hear what's i don't even know how to pronounce his name yeah i know what is what does trump call him i don't think he calls him anything he name. Ramaswami? Yeah. Vivek. I know. What does Trump call him? I don't think he calls him anything. He hasn't got a name yet. Oh, okay.

Okay, I thought I did. We think it's going to be Ramaswami. Yeah. When is Trump going to christen him? I heard that. But he's not an establishment guy, so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I like Vivek.

And I think, I'm wondering if Vivek ends up in second place in the in the gop primary because the dude if you've seen these viral clips of him he is hitting it out of the park yeah there's a talker there's a viral clip where a woman starts yelling about republicans being evil and a bunch of people get up start yelling at her and he's like no no let her come up let her come up let her speak let her speak and he's like ma'am i believe in the first amendment please say what you had to say are you mom he's like thank you for coming thank you for sharing your thoughts and the woman's like crying and then she leaves vivek knows how to handle this stuff trump knows how to handle the press in his way vivek knows how to handle them in a very clean and tactful way so i'll be really

interested in seeing what happens um as time goes on because vivek is starting to he's starting to pick up yeah yeah well one thing i appreciate that's being acknowledged here is that in order for any presidential candidate to really be successful or worthwhile, they have to understand that the media is their enemy and they have to know how to combat them. Well, Donald Trump doesn't seem to get that. The media is his enemy? Yeah, he can go on the fake press all day and night, but he keeps giving them interviews and one-on-ones and they secretly record them and then link it to the government. He gets arrested for it. Come on.

Well, it's funny he knows they're there he knows but i think he also engages with this in such a way that if they air footage of him saying something he wishes they hadn't recorded him saying he uses he can just use it exactly and he and then he can also call the reporter a mean name or something it just ends up being way worse optically for the person who released the audio true true fair i'm really interested to see how vivek handles this stuff because he's not a politician. He's got no record. He has ideas. I like his ideas.

I like his attitude. He was talking, I saw one video today where he was talking about how he would end the war in Ukraine. And I'm like, these are bold and direct statements to make. He said he would have like

an armistice with Russia where it would divide the country like Korea. He would then demand in exchange for these territories, they cease their military alliance with China because of how big a threat them and China have become, especially with the BRICS nations, et cetera. And I'm like, typically politicians give wishy-washy answers because they don't want to be overtly direct.

And Vivek is just coming out and saying it. I've said this before. I think that Vivek is nothing but a positive addition. I don't think that he has a significant chance of actually being the nominee, but I do think that his position on the debate stage is going to make a lot of people make commitments and, and discuss topics that, you know, establishment candidates would never touch. And I think that's extremely good.

What about VP Ramaswamy? You think that could happen? Interesting. I think so. I don't, DeSantis is impossible at this point. They hate each other too much. Yeah. I think he's running,

I think that's what he's kind of running for is a position. I don't feel like Vivek really thinks he can win. I feel like he's running for it to. And he has, he can't admit that. I mean, obviously. Sure.

Okay. No, no, obviously not. No. But I think that he's running for, you know, a position in cabinet or maybe VP or something like that,

but he's running to, to, you know, raise his star in, in DC. And, and I do think that he's got a good argument and there's good reasons for him to be running. And so I think it's a positive.

I think a Trump RFK, a Trump Kennedy ticket hits it out of the park. Yeah. I think you would see tremendous margins. Yeah. With RFK polling 20 percent on the Democrat side, if Trump was like, I'm going to give you guys the guy you wanted he could theoretically poll let's just say half of that let's say half of the democrats polled in favor of rfk that's 10 percent of democrat voters voted for trump trump wins no no question well it's it's interesting right because i've mentioned some of my issues with rfk in the past that said he has the kennedy

name he he's he has this unique advantage of having a dynastic name while also being anti-establishment i like that word so i mean it is he he's got he's part of this political family he's a kennedy he's not just a total outsider in the sense that the american people have no reason to be familiar with him but he also is an outsider in the ways that are meaningful to the american people yeah true he's got a bunch of dumb tweets don't get me wrong i mean he he was like what did he call the nra terrorists or something yeah i like people are sharing that stuff i like i'm not bothered by it yeah look i i just like i said i disagree with him on a lot uh i wouldn't vote for him as a candidate but that said he does have this unique advantage. I'll acknowledge that. I don't know. I might vote in the Democrat primaries and for RFK.

I mean, I like the idea of I think an RFK leadership in the Democratic Party forcefully realigns it in a positive way for this country. I think, again, I would I would agree with that in a sort of cautious way. Like I said, there's a lot RFK believes in that I think is really bad. But when you look at how awful the Democratic Party is right now, he would absolutely be an improvement. That's what I'm saying. Even if RFK on a scale of negative to 100 to positive 100 is a negative 10, negative

10 is a huge improvement from the current Democrat Party. I totally agree with you. Reluctantly. Yeah. And so, you know, i was talking about trump in 2020 in my and and i've had these libertarians be like but are you really gonna vote for the lesser of two evils and i'm like i don't think trump's evil i i give him a net positive score i mean the foreign policy was tremendous that's because the libertarians perspective like they're expecting

you to see things like a libertarian exactly exactly like i think it's because it's the archaic view of the two parties but trump was an insurgent who came in with a different perspective well also and uh dude when people say that to me it's like so i should vote for the lesser of three evils and pick your candidate i don't like the libertarian either yeah yeah sometimes i will but i i like the libertarian party i like the mbertarian Party. I like the Mises Caucus. Where is their announcement? Come on, guys. What's going on?

Who's running? The Democrats and Republicans are in full swing. The Libertarians got to get going. I don't know if they're going to have a... I like the Libertarian Party, but come on. I don't know if they're going to have a candidate. Honestly. Why do you think?

Because no one's announced. There was talk about... It's supposed to be Dave Smith. Yeah, exactly. There was talk about Dave, but I don't think that Dave's going to do it. This is just a vibe. I have no inside information or anything.

But if he was going to announce, I feel like he would have announced already. Yeah, I agree. And it wouldn't be this coy, if wishy-washy maybe stuff. It would be like, we're in full swing. We'd at the very least be seeing him do more. Do more. Yep. Because right before everybody everybody announces they start ramping things up you can see the gears in motion and

we're like oh it looks like they're gonna answer like even ron de santis they were like next week it's gonna happen then rumors circulated then sources say and then finally he announced we've got nothing from the libertarians so far but but what I was saying about Trump in 2020 is like, you know, look, I'm looking at him, the school choice I'm in favor of. I'm looking at his banning the wokeness in government contracting because it violates the Civil Rights Act. Agree with that. And foreign policy. I thought it was fantastic. And so I'm like, I'm not looking at Trump as the lesser of two evils.

I'm looking at him as like a small net positive. No new wars withdraw withdraw from afghanistan abraham accords massively net positive so i'm like if you were to do the trump presidential quotient and took all of the different elements of of the presidency there's a lot of different categories where trump is negative and there's a lot where he's positive that leads us to on a scale of minus 100 to 100, Trump might be a six. And I'm like, so I'm not here to praise the man and scream. He's the greatest guy who ever lived or anything like that. I'm just like, you know, I get enough from it. I don't feel like I'm voting for a net negative. I feel like the foreign policy stuff was good for us. And there are, of course, some negative areas. But overall,

we got a great economy i can't blame the president for covid i can criticize him for his policies uh lockdown support in the beginning i can criticize him for uh not firing fauci but look i gotta say this at the time i didn't know better better either so it's like those are those are slightly net negatives but overall we had three great years plus they put weights on his legs now that's exactly it i look at rfk that's huge rfk jr i see a lot of really great things in terms of calling out the establishment massive multinational corporations he's got he said stupid things in the past i disagree with

i disagree with him on some of his his takes as of recent of course of course but like i was saying like wherever you view him on the scale of negative to positive he is a dramatic improvement from the democratic party so i would be interested in seeing him be the scale of negative to positive, he is a dramatic improvement from the Democratic Party. So I would be interested in seeing him be the new leader of the Democratic Party. That is to say, I don't know how the rules work where I currently am at. Some states require you to be a registered member of the party if you're going to vote in the primary. Some have open primaries. I don't like to inject myself into like, you know, I wouldn't, I don't consider myself a Democrat.

I don't want to go to the Democratic Party and vote in a primary. I don't do that in Republican primaries. However, considering how substantial and important it is, I'll consider voting in the primary for RFK. I like just the dramatic improvement over the rest of the Democrats. This guy works out. I mean, wow. Talk about body positivity.

Well, then I guess the question for you, right? Since you're more of a far right extremist, right? Hey, great. Put a far right extremist in the Democratic Party party let me ask the far-right uh democratic question um since you are more moderate then i guess the question is what matters to you more a good democratic candidate or a good republican candidate good democrat when we're looking at a democrat and a republican on the debate stage imagine the cultural shift that will happen if on strong cultural issues it's rfk versus trump and they're like we agree right and we're talking about i think there's

truth in that because if because if because a lot of these people on the left will be like we hate trump so much we're going to agree with rfk and it's going to force more positive cultural elements onto the debate stage biden's going gonna say crackpot crazy stuff to defend leftists and whatever he can get whatever he can get from from the media if they're forced into having rfk on the stage let me just say this you guys ever see that uh rogan episode with rfk where he said he was concerned about potentially being assassinated yes i'm not surprised he said that i'll put it that way he's a stark opposition 20 in the polls there's a real opportunity to realign the democratic party in a positive way that

doesn't mean you have to vote for rfk for president to be completely honest i would i would probably love to see a trump kennedy ticket to be completely honest yeah that'd be great i i think that'd be something interesting i like i like the the anti-establishment bent on it. And whoever is most likely to do significant, or whoever's most likely to do damage to the bureaucracy, like cutting jobs, cutting parts of the bureaucracy, I'm not talking about small changes. I'm talking cut

actual cabinet-level bureaucracy stuff. Get rid of them. Anyone that'll do that, I'll vote for. Yeah, you know, I would love to talk with RFK and be like, will you commit to firing all of these bureaucrats and setting term limits for

government employees? I think you would. I think so, too. Yeah, I do. If anyone in the Dems is going to do it, it'll be him. all of these bureaucrats and setting term limits for government employees i think he would i think i think so too yeah uh i i i do i do if anyone the dems is going to do it'll be him yeah he's the only one yeah literally literally yeah and everyone everyone else that's run like or that is is running they're all going to increase the size of government you know i'm not a a member of the libertarian party but small government is something that is, in my opinion, extremely important because it allows for, you know, different areas to make their own, you know federal level arguments for most of the things that we fight about is completely pointless and unnecessary so uh we're gonna go to super chats and i'm gonna start by reading this one from we are change he says joe exotic for libertarian

president with mcafee vp let's go plus shamey seamus is a dirty statist so the first thing is the implication here is that uh mcafee is alive and the other question is he's not uh hey hey uh hey luke how you feeling about desantis these days huh mr lucar cassie comes on the show i don't like politicians but man desantis is doing a really great job he's the best and i'm really excited about him and trump's not good and fauci and all that stuff uh genuine question i wonder where what luke's position is on desantis now uh only because what we've seen is despite the fact that desantis has probably the best track record of any republican politician in the country he has not done well in the press his his press team has handled things miserably and unfortunately for desantis what's exacerbating it is his base is incredibly angry.

It's like, I'll tweet something in defense of DeSantis and they'll still start attacking and insulting me. In fact, they're even still doing it in the comments like, I said a mean word about the guy all day and they're still insulting me. Bro, I will not vote for the guy. Y'all are nuts. Well, I think that maybe those people should be attacking and insulting Luke

instead of attacking and insulting you. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. I'm interested to see where Ron DeSantis goes. I'm not going to blame DeSantis for what his bad press team is doing. But I do think it's fair to criticize DeSantis on who he's hired and their inability to properly manage this. I think his record speaks for itself. If you look at Florida and see how well they've done in terms of what their COVID response was, how they've handled culture war issues. That is something good to vote for. The problem is his press team has been apocalyptic and that reflects poorly on him.

But let's read some super chats. And I'm curious to see what Luke's stance on this is. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, if we're going to have a nuclear World War III, at least we know we can take down a number one business. Our U.S. leaders care not about human lives may those who lead go down as hard and as fast as anheuser uh am imbev f them yeah also smash that like button and become a member at timcast.com because the members only show be coming up in about 25 minutes on the front page of timcast.com here we go polite rude guys as i filed a lawsuit in texas challenging gay marriage in america

here is the case number i can't read that whole number the federal government is violating my texas rights interesting interesting actually you know i'm going to read this anyway because shamus you want to write this down based yeah it is s a two three c a zero eight five one zero g i'd be interested into looking that up and seeing what your argument is because that's a tough argument. How something someone else does infringes upon your rights. Interesting.

Yeah. I don't know. It depends on what Oberfeld, was it Obergefell? Obergefell, yeah. Obergefell. It depends on what what that uh uh actually is is is is arguing because if it's an issue of churches can't discriminate

then the government you know it'll be interesting to see what the argument is here we go joe spinella says per dr peter zyhan the dollar isn't going anywhere and how bricks is being backed by gold isn't the same way our currency once was. Bricks will still go through using the dollar. Interesting. Well, we'll see how that goes. Yeah, I've heard that. I heard that from him before.

Yeah. Daswood says, if you make the like button a child, I bet the Dems would smash it. Oh, God. That was brutal. Yikes. Woo. Freely Ashley says awesome to see Haley on

love her and her work thanks Ashley right on belly flop has a question for Ian who's not here so you'll just have to answer this one

alright Ian last night you mentioned getting aggressive seemed like you were trying to find the right word I think that word is intense you get intense

yeah you know sometimes I will just think about graphene. It gets me so angry. And it'll get me worked up because if other people understood the implications of using graphene and getting carbon out of the air, then, you know, we could really move society along. 20. 20 right there,an cheers we are changed says he did a really good job in florida during covid but horrible foreign policy so what is that is luke changing his tune is that is that well he is changed what else did you expect oh yeah yeah

puke we are strange whoa insulting me all show. You stay up all night thinking that one? What can we expect? It took me a while. I had to write some material this last week. No, it just came to me really effortlessly. Because, you know, when Luke's on the show, I'm not spamming the chat the whole time, insulting him. I guess I have better things to fill my time.

Luke likes to get on the internet and throw some mud. That's right. He does. All right. We'll read this. William Tresh says, my law firm has a franchise group working with franchisors nationwide if you're interested for casper i do general business law and can help members form entities for their projects so the challenge we're facing is coffee's up and running the uh the new the

curd cups the new blends are coming out very soon it takes several weeks to launch it took us months to launch in the first place. The building we have, historic building, requires a lot of work and it's taking forever, unfortunately. But we're getting there and it is what it is. Once we have the first location set up, I think we're instantly going to go for franchises because that's the fastest way to rapidly expand. And I got a feeling we can have like 10 or 12 stores opened up within like six months. We can even do like investor stuff where people want to open franchises and have experience let's say you are like a manager for a couple different coffee chains in your area and you would rather run your own we could you know we could i should

say this very potentially we would be interested in if legal and possible financing someone opening their own set of chains and things like that. Because my goal with this is, and I'll tell you this right now, guys. First thing they tell you in business, never say what I'm about to say to anyone who you might work with. I am not interested in money.

You say that, and all your investors walk out the door and say it was really great meeting you. Because no one expects to make any money if you don't want to. But I don't. What I want is a successful business that can survive, that will be able to stay open, that will be able to make enough to pay the bills, pay the employees a good rate, make a little bit on top for a rainy day fund, but function. I want a bunch of businesses that can survive and exist and have a positive impact on culture. They need to make money to do that.

But my priority is not to become a billionaire from a coffee chain. Don't care about that. So when we launch these franchises, I think we're going to have like ridiculously favorable terms in terms of revenue. And the only thing I'm concerned about is enough off the top so that we can have a fund to help any one of the franchises should they fall in hard times and we can keep them staying open. So it's all a beautiful pipe dream as of right now until we actually get the ball rolling. Perhaps the first thing we should do, we don't even need a location, is start discussing with someone the basic format, style, guide,

and structure of what a franchise should be, what makes it a franchise, and that's where we're at for now. We're talking with some people about potentially running this and when that's where we're at for now um we're talking with some people about potential about potentially running this and uh when that happens maybe then uh we'll get we'll get the get the ball rolling get the ball rolling we will grab some more super chats cal and shaw indie game says just get the federal reserve to start printing bricks dollars instead of usd checkmate uh it's called counterfeiting when you do it to someone else's currency that's right but north korea does it apparently like

true yeah north korea has like a masterful usd printing thing so they're just making money anyway maybe they were the ones who did it maybe they're the ones who crashed the dollar george m says post world war three currency will be chickens and spoons hey sir can you break a chicken for a dozen spoons i need exact change in all seriousness people need not fear being poor richness of character cannot be bought well you know what they say um i don't know what currency will be used in world war three but for world war four it's going to be chickens and spoons famous quote you know what what's what's fascinating is today, wineberry season is coming to an end. So most of the wineberries have begun to rot and fall off.

We've harvested a whole bunch. We made wineberry cookies. We made wineberry candy. It's like a chewy candy. It tastes pretty good. You tried it? Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty good.

You forced me to. Yeah. Have some. I was like, I don't want it. You're like, have it. Yeah. And then, you know, I was like raising my fist. And then your spoons went missing. Cookies were really good. We also today, have it. Yeah. And then, you know, I was like raising my fist. And then your spoons went missing.

Cookies were really good. We also today we made Roberto Jr. coffee cookies. We use the Roberto Jr. coffee. Those are awesome. And then we I made espresso with it and then use it to make cookies. They're really good. They're really good. Yeah.

We made a crispy and a fluffy one. But the reason I bring this up, I'm riding. I come up to the studio before the show. I ride up on my little electric motorcycle and yo, there are berries everywhere. There's blackberries. We got Allegheny blackberry. We got another one. I forgot what it's called.

It's another kind of blackberry. We've got wine berries everywhere. We have, this is the craziest thing. There is a tree with probably 5,000 grapes on it. I can't, I'm not even, I'm not even exaggerating. It's just, you look up and you're and they're not big enough to eat yet. And I'm just like, holy crap. And there's grapes everywhere.

I don't know what's up with this property because the other, Freedomistan, where we're building a bunch of stuff out, ain't no food there at all. But we got pawpaw, massive pawpaw. There's so much food here and there's a ridiculous amount of deer and turkey everywhere. There's a ridiculous amount of deer out there. Yeah. You'll go outside and they'll be like 12 12 of them i'm like dude

worst case scenario we got too much food too much yeah too too too bountiful you know yeah when i bring like a bucket and just go grab a whole bunch of it for myself well i keep telling people to get the wine berries because they're going bad yeah they're about to yeah and so we we juiced a whole bunch and we're uh we're making wine berry syrup nice we juiced them and then we made we we took the juice we had a little bit of water to it so you could drink it it was really good and uh right now the blackberries are starting to come in then we have green briar which i'm not super familiar with but but apparently you can eat. Then we have grapes. What? Greenbrier. Yeah, it's a vine. And look it up. You got greenbrier.

Mulberries are staying for a while. It's just, my point is this, man. Delicious. We're talking about conflict, crisis, lack of food, going poor, the currency and all that stuff. Bro, if you learn to actually live the way people were supposed to live, and it's funny because we can take the WEF,

hippie, dippy, corporate stance of like being in tune with nature or whatever. However, whatever you want to call it. I think it's a net positive. If people were living outside of cities and responsible for their own consumption and refuse, at least to a small degree, the world would be a better place for one simple reason. Teaching people responsibility. Yeah, true true that's what's lacking people live in these cities and they're

like i'm gonna go downstairs and i'm going to have check this out imagine what it takes to make a modern american dish it's like yeah i'm gonna have a chicken i'm gonna have some kind of like a Thai chicken with peanuts, shrimp, chicken, pineapple, avocado, cilantro. And I'm like, bro, you basically pull a plant from every different part of the world, ship it all to your city, a tremendous amount of resources, and then

eat like a king. It's true. A gluttonous one. You go to these actual countries where people like steamed chicken and rice. Very, very basic food. But it's kind of crazy when you think how, you know, I walked into a supermarket in New York in the dead of winter and there's avocados. And I'm just like, that's crazy.

They grew them in Mexico and drove them all the way up here. But people don't, they're so spoiled by luxury. So I'm just like, one of the best things politically for this country would be if people actually learn to live with nature. Yeah, definitely. Farming, even if 10% of their food came from themselves, they would take things more seriously.

Yeah, if you think about like apples, like apples are like frozen for a year. If you see them on the shelf today, they've been frozen for one year. No, that can't be. Yeah, that's what I've heard. I've heard that apples that are put onto a lot of shelves have been in cryo and freezed for quite some time i think it's maybe i mean but we have apple farms all over the place here there was one there was one for sale super cool as an apple farm yeah for sale for like a million dollars and i was just like if i could own an apple farm but i can't but uh yeah you go you

can go uh fruit picking out here because they have the farms where they let you come and just take it and you get like a little thing and you grab the apples off. We have apple trees on the property. We have three of them. There's too many. There's too many apples.

We got like 30 people who work here. We can't get enough apples to feed everybody. It's insane. Well, for one thing, nobody can eat 12 apples in one day. No, you don't want to. Your evening and next day will be bad. That is not, that is very unadvisable.

You will eat the apples and you will be happy. You will not be happy. It's a lot of fiber. Don't do it. It is kind of crazy though, because we got critters up the wazoo. Like we got bad critters. But I went to, I went to,

I think it was Stonewall Jackson's headquarters in Virginia. I think it was Jackson, I'm not sure. And in the kitchen, they had a smoothbore musket above the stove. And then I was just like, is that decoration? What's that for? And they're like, nope, it's a critter gun. The chef would open the back door and wait for a critter, shoot it,

and then throw it in the stew. Wow. Wild. Yeah, could you imagine like in your backyard, I see a groundhog. Bang. There he goes. Dinner's on. Like, we consider it to be, like, hillbilly, you know? Like, you know, Ma, we got dinner.

You know? It's weird that we, like, make fun of people for doing normal things the way they were always doing. You know what that is? That's literally just rich people being snobby and laughing at people who do things normally. Yeah. Like, oh, his food comes from outside yes from outside he gets his own food from nature you had to clean that yourself my pops and bruce says we need an official tim cast spoon in the merch store it should be it should have shames's face

on the end too falsely accused shames falsely accused no way now i'm buying it now tim's tim's you just you sound insane you've started a movement of other crazy people that's the real cult it was really funny because uh when we were like yo shames you have our spoons like oh yeah i'll grab them and it was like not a big deal and then shames walked upstairs and as he's like handing us like a like three or four spoons, he was like, an Irish man lives under my house and he keeps stealing my spoons, but no one believes me. And that made it a funny joke.

Yeah, I was like, look, no, I told you, you sound insane. You sound crazy. You sound like a- No one believes me. He's trying to make the story sound more rational at this point, but it's still, it's crazy. You're the one that lives under the house. Who says I live under the house?

Tim says that. Tim says an Irishman stole his spoon. You're Irish! Ethnically, yeah, but I'm American. See the flag behind me? What are you talking about? Like, I'm ethnically Irish. That's true. Alright, we'll read some more superchats. Sparky says, Tim, from year

to year, the bug population fluctuates severely, so in many years, there won't be enough bugs to feed humanity alone. Iy says, Tim, from year to year the bug population fluctuates severely so in many years there won't be enough bugs to feed humanity alone. I won't be surprised, but I will tell you this. One secret technique. You put wood boards down in your chicken coop and then every day you pick them up and move them.

And you know what happens? There are bugs under them and the chickens eat all the bugs and they turn the bugs into eggs and eggs yeah it's one of the many talents one of the funniest things the funniest things about having chickens is how the hens are ravenous and the roosters are chill and it's probably because the hens are like they're craving food non-stop because their body makes eggs yeah he's pregnant people that don't have chickens don't realize how many eggs come out of chickens like you get a couple chickens

and your fridge is going to be full of eggs. But so, like, when we do sushi, we take the leftovers, like the raw fish, and we'll just throw it in. And the roosters just watch and then look, and they stare at it. And the hens just go nuts like rugby. That's what we call it, rugby. And then, like, one will pick one up, and they all chase after it, and they're smashing into each other. It is crazy. They're insane.

Ravenous little things. We'll grab some more super chats alex bean says timcast rules future culture war episode guest ideas trish from teacher therapy and joseph everett from what i've learned keep it up yeah we want to we want to have that uh that harry guy harry sisson come on, Harry. But he won't do it. No, he never will. But it's because I mean, come on, like he's 20 years old. He really doesn't know a whole lot about policy. He doesn't know a whole lot about history or politics. He's just like

a stock model. What is his talent agency like? We need someone who's young to convince young people to vote Democrat. You're hired. It seems like it. So it's going to be sheltered. it's going to be sheltered it's going to be controlled there's going to be no free form conversation of course not so when we're like hey it's a raw it's a raw two-hour conversation it's like oh whoa i can't do that sorry yeah i don't think that'll happen we will grab some more eden heidick says tim youtuber low y 86 has a video where chinese domestic press interviewed their

army's cbrn warfare chief literally saying they're producing and will deploy ethnically targeted biological weapons wow ethnically targeted that's wild can you imagine that this is only going to affect white people or this is only going to affect black people yeah well that's like which group too too? Like Scottish or English? In the United States, you have such a mixture of different groups, but yeah. Yeah. It's going to be mulatto supremacy. Mulatto.

I just looked up that Apple fact here that I gave about a minute ago. It's from the U.S. Department of Agriculture's website. They say the average amount of apples being stored up to 14 months. So. Department of Agriculture's website. They say, and a lot of the average amount of apples being sort of up to 14 months. So the opposite of nine to 12 months. So yeah, just for everyone that's given me, trust me, bro,

in the comments. Come on. Camgirl, as soon as Tim, I want to talk with you. Who? I want to talk with you all about conflict sometime. You think peace is always better than war,

and that isn't true. It's a huge blind spot of yours that should be addressed hit me up on the discord anytime public or private i understand the concept i mean if you look at how the world is conflict is a natural component of life all of it animals and all life competing and conflicting and eating each other and destroying things and i get it i get it maybe there has to be some kind of conflict within humans otherwise we become hedonistic lazy and we we we had to fall apart yeah i mean there is such a thing as like a just war in the sense that there are there might be reasons for our country to become involved but that doesn't mean that we should jump on every single war that the media tells us we need to join or become a part of.

I love this. Which ever here demoralize says, let's see if Tim can go one episode without triggering his DeSantis derangement syndrome. If I hear it one more time, I'll unsub. What I love about this is that like every episode we do, we've got some kind of criticism of Trump and not a single Trump supporter

has been like, screw you, Tim, you've got Trump derangement syndrome like we literally say you're saying like you hired a bunch of bad people he wouldn't fire fauci what it's here and trump supporters come on and they still say yeah well you know we get it but man point out like a couple criticisms of desantis and these people lose their minds it's crazy like i'll unsub if you criticize DeSantis one more time. Biden's over there.

Go hang out with them. Bro, we're going to criticize everybody. Like, it's remarkable to me how our position has consistently been DeSantis has done a great job in Florida, but his PR team is bad. And he's done some bad things that have pissed me off. And they're like, well, for that, you have DeSantis derangement syndrome. By the way, I wish more of my fans would threaten to unsubscribe when tim criticizes me with his insane false accusations why don't we if i hear one more accusation about shame is being irish i swear all in sub not that well that is a mean thing to but but when you say the thing about the spoons where are my people at where's my audience at

come on guys you're just letting him get away with it maybe we can with every purchase of the shamus coffee a spoon comes with it yeah yes oh my goodness and then and then every time someone buys on him he's like oh another spoon shamus took for me i know what you're doing that's right and i'll be like if you received the shamus coffee and there's a spoon on it that spoon's mine that's an we're entitled and like there'll be a little there'll be a little note being like you may have received the spoon but it is not your property. We'll give like golden spoons out instead of golden tickets and they can come on a tour. If you receive a golden

spoon. I actually don't think we can do that. What? You can't? Send spoons out of the coffee? No, I don't think so. What if you do that on accident? How would you accidentally send a spoon out? I could figure it out. Not that I would. If you figure it out, it's by definition no longer an accident.

Not necessarily. Maybe I solved a logical conundrum. All right, we'll grab some more here. Thank you, Tim. Shane Knox says, we were exporting energy under Trump. Do we not have enough oil to mine and sell to BRICS? Yeah. We don't.

I don't believe we do no the the exporting under trump was it under very specific context and circumstances all these other countries had shut themselves down and so we ended up with a bunch of oil producers who could not store what they had they had too much so we actually had to just offload as much as possible however i do believe we have more than enough energy for ourselves especially with alaska and we should definitely be working towards that yeah so theoretically well i'll put it this way theoretically the answer is yes based on where we're at right now we could be exporting however we want to keep the energy for ourselves especially if bricks is expanding yeah so at least energy independent would be good jason hutchinson says what did we do in afghanistan for 20 years but clear it out

and make ready for china to move in yep and now they're going after uh what is their lithium good down there i wish them luck have you guys seen that video of all the kids mining the cobalt yes so brutal it is i i you know these urban liberal types man they would break down their worldview is predicated upon putting on blinders ignoring the fact that they are colonist enslaver imperialists masquerading as humble nice anti-racists but if you if you go to them i guarantee you say hey we want you to stop using your computer your iphones your cars they're going to say well that's so stupid you're dumb it's like i'm not saying it because of capitalism i'm saying because you have slaves making it

stop buying the things that are made by slaves they're going to be like no i refuse zero accountability for anything ever it's never ever about any kind of personal change they can affect in their own lives and anytime they do affect like a personal change it always happens to be something which is very economically convenient so they'll say something like well i care about climate change so like i'm not going to have kids when they were already planning to not have kids and you're like okay dude stop like noah yelverton says oh no freedom tunes more like free dem spoons yeah i know well i wouldn't need to because the spoons are already free tim has them it's nonsense no i don't buy it the yeti says vivek

will likely be vp why they probably like each other and more importantly trump has zero ammo against this guy i don't know i i may literally make up ammo yeah but vivek is really good so trump will find something but i don't know in 2020 trump wasn't that strong against against biden you'd think he had so much to go after and people kept saying well it's because it's sad to go after biden that's why they chose him i'm like i don't know about that there's a lot of people it's sad to go after that trump has gone after like i think a lot of the people Trump has gone after have been sad people. Yes, exactly. Please clap.

Thank you for mentioning it. He's like the quintessential example. He might even be sadder than Trump. Or no, I'm sorry, than Biden. Oh, yeah. It was bad. Please clap. Please clap.

That's all we had to do. That's where we left. Smile. What does it say smile emily shamus didn't steal your spoons tim he's been framed like a painting thank freedom spoons isn't a thing that's right thank you wow freedom's good thank you i really appreciate that did she say who stole the spoons then i don't excuse me so that's not how a court of law works. I've been exonerated.

They don't have to give you the real spoon thief. My bad. Basically, Seamus makes some kind of self-deprecating joke, and then we all roll with it, and then Seamus acts like he's outraged. No, it hurts me. Yo, the story about me watching Leprechaun is a true story. That's not true.

I was on the couch watching Leprechaun 2 and I think it was 2 there's a guy who gets bitten by the Leprechaun and starts turning Irish and so he goes to a restaurant

and he's like he orders french fries waffle fries mashed potatoes tater tots he just like orders all baked potato

and then literally as the scene is happening Seamus walks in and he's like hey man what's up and I'm like watching the movie

and he's like oh what are you watching? And he looks at the screen and it's a guy turning into an Irishman eating potatoes. And he's like, what is this? That's actually that's not what happened. Tim was watching this movie. So Seamus, Seamus, get in here. Get in here.

And I watched and I watched and he said, this is what you look like. And your people are a joke to me. I was like, that's so harsh. And then everyone in the room laughed at me and pointed at me. Everyone else walked in the room as it was happening, and they all started busting out laughing. And I said. And Chambers was like, leave me alone.

I said, I was born here. I was born here. But everybody. Irishman. Irishman. I was born in Chicago. But everybody loves potatoes. Yeah, that's right.

Thank you. It's true. It's a hurtful stereotype. Yo, it is really hilarious. They made that movie where a guy gets bit by the leprechaun and turns out i know that's insane what i love i love the low budget movies like that i think that's either okay to do with every group or no group that's what i think let's grab uh we'll grab one more super chat don't just the irish raymond g stanley jr says shane has returned the spoons to tim or i'm unsuffering

i would return the spoons if i or I'm unsuffering. I would return the spoons if I had them, but the truth is I don't have them. I don't have Tim's spoons. All right. James Lynch says, 40 years tonight, bro.

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I just think it's the, I don't use Twitter anymore because I don't like Elon Musk. Oh, yeah. So I want to say, we will see you all, you shouted out your Twitter already, right? Yeah, at surge.com,

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That's pretty cool to see his name pop up. He was actually in 30-some-odd place. There's still a long way to go as they eliminate players, but this is a 10,000-player pool down to 211 players. And yo, straight up, Nate Silver of 538 is currently in 47th place. Good for Nate. Good for Nate.

Good for Nate. It would be really cool if he ends up winning the $12 million prize just because I know who he is. But may not agree on everything, but it is cool to see that he's doing so well. Anyway, we'll see you all over at TimCast.com. Thanks for hanging out. you