Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #818 Pence Says "NOT MY CONCERN" When Tucker Asks About Failing US Cities w/Shannon Bray

Episode Date: July 15, 2023

Tim, Brett, Phil, & Kellen join Shannon Bray to discuss Mike Pence saying American Cities are "not my concern," Vivek Ramaswammy skyrocketing in the prediction market, Biden caught sniffing a child again, and Trump saying he will get revenge on the government if elected. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tucker Carlson is hosting this sit down forum with the presidential candidates on the Republican side, except for Donald Trump. And the Internet is exploding, says the Postmillennial, because Mike Pence has apparently committed political suicide by saying that's not my concern when asked about U.S. cities in reference to wanting to fund Ukraine. Now, some are arguing he didn't really mean that. It's being taken out of context. But the general idea is that Mike Pence is talking about how we got to fund and support Ukraine. Tucker says, what about American cities? And then

Mike Pence said, unfortunately, whether he meant it or not, that's not my concern. He does go on to say we want to we want to fix up our borders and make America better and things like that. But this is interesting. This is the the new way we are having these political discussions it's not so much the old school style debate so we'll talk about that now uh because of this we're seeing a major swing in prediction markets with vivek ramaswamy skyrocketing and my favorite line yet the media saying donald trump's campaign pitch is vote for me so we can get revenge on the government and everyone's like okay that sounds pretty good so we'll talk revenge on the government. And everyone's like, okay, that sounds pretty good. So we'll talk about that.

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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Shannon Bray. Hello. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you do? Well, currently I am running for North Carolina governor. That's my side job. My real job is I work for Department of Homeland Security and helping fine-tune some of our

government systems. Oh, that's a tough job. It's a losing job. But you're a libertarian? You're running i am north carolina absolutely you're gonna uh get rid of the irs or you're gonna well i can't really get rid of the irs as a yeah but yeah yeah you know i'm gonna definitely uh wreck wreck the status quo because you have the republicans and the democrats running for so long this everything

is the same we're not going to get anywhere without new ideas and new politicians. So ultimately, I plan on going there with a wrecking ball and making some serious changes. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. This will be fun.

We also got Phil Labonte. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I am the lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary, and my buddy Brett. Well, hello. Yes, my name is Brett Dasavik. I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis right here on YouTube Monday through Friday. Happy to be here. Happy Friday, everybody. It is Kellen. I'm

pressing the buttons today. I'm ready to go when you guys are. And I'll just add, nobody's here today. I'm like, where is everybody? Everyone's on vacation or on some mission. People are out doing journalism. Ian's not here. He's he's out filming. I got a message like midway through the show. They're like, can you do the show tonight? I'm like trying to talk and send the message like, yes, I can. Yeah, Ian's not here. And just an announcement for everybody. I'm going to be out all next

week. Seamus will be filling in hosting the show all next week. We have a bunch of really, really amazing guests. It's going to be absolutely fantastic. And unfortunately for. We have a bunch of really, really amazing guests. It's going to be absolutely fantastic. And unfortunately for me, something I really, really don't want to do, I am going to a sports injury specialist to get repairs done

on my busted up leg. So it is what it is. Nothing I can do about it. But let's jump into this first story. We got this from the Post Millennial. Internet explodes with memes after mike pence commits career suicide in interview with tucker carlson following pence's i'm sorry social media exploded on friday after former vice president mike pence spoke with tucker carlson at

the summit in iowa claiming that american cities are quote not my concern while reiterating his support for the u.s sending more tanks to uk Now, I want to play this clip, make sure I actually play the full clip, because when I first saw it, I felt like we weren't getting the proper context, and this might not actually be the full context. So, well, let's just play this clip and see if we have it, and then we'll talk about it. Is it playing?

Oh, come on, Twitter. We love Twitter, but not when that happens all right where's the audio at right there actually all right and now i am uh there we have enough here we go you are you are distressed that the ukrainians don't have enough american tanks every city in the united states has become much worse over the past three years. Drive around. There's not one city that's gotten better in the United States. And it's visible. Our economy has degraded. The suicide rate has jumped. Public filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased. And yet your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find on a map,

who've received tens of billions of US tax dollars, don't have enough tanks. I think it's a fair question to ask, where's the concern for the United States in that? It's not my concern. Tucker, I've heard that routine from you before, but that's not my concern. I'm running for president of the United States because I think this country's in a lot of trouble. I think Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad. And as president of the United States, we're going to restore law and order in our cities. We're going to secure our border. We're going to get this economy moving again. And we're going to make sure that we have men and women on our courts at every level

that will stand for the right to life and defend all the god-given liberties enshrined in our constitution anybody that says that we can't be the leader of the free world and solve our problems at home has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on earth we can do both and so before the show we were watching this. The question was, did he literally just say that American cities are not his concern? tucker says you're concerned with ukraine and giving money to crane etc to ukraine etc and then tucker goes on to say there's uh all these problems at home and then tucker uses the phrase uh concern again i think that pence was replying to the first time that he used uh first time that Tucker used concern, because then Pence goes on to talk about the problems in the United States, you know, and

so what's the the finality of his his statement? He does talk about Ukraine. He says, if you think we can't do we can't be the leader of the free world, then you got a small view. Yeah, it it may. I'm sorry, man. Like, I hear what you're saying and part of me is like maybe we give him the benefit benefit of the doubt but uh i i can't

do it i'm not giving him i mean i wouldn't vote for his ass anyway so it doesn't matter but like i mean but i just who would i mean seriously so i mean i do think it's funny that everybody like this is going viral there's like 50 000 tweets in the past a couple hours or whatever and i'm just like ain't nobody was gonna vote for this guy in the first place like i mean he's he's what's he what's he uh trending at on the on the on prediction market uh three cents yeah he's he's below nicki haley's this is barely worth it it's barely it's only worth talking about for jokes you know or to you know to discuss what did people mean. Holy hope. There goes the fake.

Oh, my. Stars and garters, my friends. We just refreshed this to pull up Mike Pence's numbers. The fake Ramaswamy is nearly tied with Ron DeSantis. Ron dropping down now to 15 cents with the fake skyrocketing to 13 up 3 with Ron down 1, closing in on second place. These are not polls. These are prediction markets. There is a slight

correlation, obviously, with polling. But these are people making bets on who they think is going to win. And what you're basically seeing is real-time, I would say, decentralized computing power as to what may actually happen. So these prediction markets

have a tendency to be correct, but it's not absolute. What do you think? On the prediction market? I don't know, Mike Pence? Mike Pence. I think his statement is the equivalent of going home, telling your wife that, hey, she didn't mean anything.

The cashier who checked me out was pretty professional. So it doesn't really matter what you say after that statement. It did a lot of damage. And it doesn't really acknowledge that I think he's missing his base, right? That people here, especially people who would already be more inclined to vote for him than, say, someone on the left, don't want us in Ukraine. And they don't want us involved in a bunch of globalist nonsense. So he's missing the mark anyways by talking about whether the fact that we can do both. People don't want you focusing on both.

They want you focusing here at home right now. I don't care if we send tanks to Ukraine, personally. You don't? You mean you don't care if we're doing it as in you don't care to do it? No, no, no. I don't care to send weapons of mass destruction over to a country. It sounded like you were saying, let them do it. I don't care.

Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for that. I don't want my tax dollars fighting another person for it. Yes, yes, yes. Political suicide. Well, you know, I'm a libertarian, so it's kind of hard to kill me off. That's why I was like, what? So

ultimately, I think the big news yesterday, which we only talked about a little bit joe biden calling in reserves selected reserves and ready reserves to be sent to europe yep i'm sorry man our our culture today does not support this kind of foreign intervention it's just for whatever reason you know what i think it is i think ron paul has a lot to do with it i think ron paul was speaking up in the late 2000s to a lot of young people people my age that and not to mention combined with the anti-war stuff that was coming uh during the the the bush years and then all of a sudden we're like you got democrats saying no war you got ron paul run as a republican saying

no war hey you know what most of us agree with that position and don't see a good reason for U.S. intervention overseas. We look back at history. We look at what the founding fathers thought of this. And we say, ultimately, yeah, we shouldn't be doing it. Now that's a big problem for the neocons and the neolibs and people like Mike Pence who are like, we're leaders of the free world. Yeah, what he's really saying is your labor, the work you do every day, when you look at your paycheck and you see that negative number for income tax, it's going to bombs and guns and tanks. And now they're deploying more U.S. personnel, the reserves. That's terrifying.

To be sent to Europe for this, what is it, Atlantic Resolve or whatever it's called? Why? How about our borders? How about our roads? And that's exactly what tucker was saying to to mike pence i gotta tell you this is not his concern if if he right if he couldn't navigate that question properly and he had to imagine this it's like you nailed it when you said she didn't mean that much to me to your wife mike pence is basically saying to the face of all of these

people begging to know why our money is going overseas, don't worry. It's somewhat worth it for some vague and nebulous reason. But I'll take care of the rest, too. It's exactly as you described, telling your wife, don't worry, she doesn't mean anything to me. Establishment Republicans are trying to have their cake and eat it, too. They really want to because there are still hawks in the Republican Party that want to see the United States be an expansive uh power and they want to see the united states return to a situation similar to probably prior to the iraq war they love the bush years too yeah you know so i mean to think that to think that he's not trying to play to both i think is probably misguided because like he's got he has to get trump's voters you know hypothetically if he's

going to win he has to convince enough trump voters and he has to convince people in the middle people in the middle are not going to be compelled by a guy that's that's essentially a religious uh fundamentalist or borderline at least he's a very religious person i don't know if you call him fundamentalist but whatever he's very religious i i yeah I don't know if we call him fundamentalist, but whatever. He's very religious. Yeah, I don't think so. I think he's like stock neocon with a religious tint for the purpose of getting votes. Well, yeah, he was the reason why it was such a good thing for Trump, right? Because he colored him. He's supposed to be the establishment.

But he was also supposed to be the guy that made it okay for the evangelicals to vote for Trump. That was part of the reason why they picked him too, is because of his I mean, I had a bunch of friends that are progressives that were like, no, really, he tried to shock the gay out of people when Pence got elected, or when Trump got elected. So there was a whole lot of people that were afraid of it, at least afraid of his

religious bona fides or whatever. But he's got to get the middle, and I don't think that there's any kind of, I don't see a that there's any kind of i don't see a path for him just overall i don't see how he gets the middle and satisfies trump voters and stuff who want nothing to do with ukraine and also satisfies like the faffo morons on on twitter you know it's antithetical to the populist movement that's going on right now which is very very anti-war yeah yeah now a lot of people i think there's a lot of people for some reason who like Pence or

like, come on, you know, he didn't really mean that. And it's just, you know, my response to that is like, okay, fine, fair point, whatever, if that's what you want to believe. But in the world of politics, let's just talk superficially. Pence just, he just, he just stumbled on a black sandbag on stage and fell down in front of everybody. It doesn't matter if that's what he wanted you to believe or even what he meant. What matters is what people take from what you said.

And the moment you give them a soundbite that juicy, it doesn't matter what you meant because history won't remember it. He just fell up the stairs three times in a row. But I mean, look, look, I mean, who likes Mike Pence? What does he have to offer us? But for real, can we name any real policy of of pence's i can tell you this i know one policy of his more money and weapons for ukraine never go into a room with a woman without your wife there that's the only policy of his i remember look that's that's like if you're if you're trying to like if you're in dc and trying to navigate dc it's probably not a bad idea it's

a it's a very good idea. The Pence rule, I endorse that. That's the only thing I remember, though. Mike Pence was basically whispering you, hey, dude, it's Me Too era. Make sure your wife is with you at all times. And then they attack him for it for that reason, probably.

Because some of these weirdos want to lie, cheat, and steal and accuse people of all sorts of nasty stuff. They made a whole big deal about him calling his wife mother. Because it was with the, it's always, are you not allowed to go to dinner? You have mother and blah, blah, blah, you know. And then Kavanaugh happens and they wonder why it was such a big deal. Like, oh, shocking.

Let's talk about Vivek Ramaswamy because we have this clip here from Tucker as well. Vivek tweeted a clip. I want to play for you guys. I'll just play it. My parents came to this country with almost no money. I've gone on to found multi-billion dollar companies. And then people tell me, oh, that's because you had privilege.

They tell me white privilege. It's sort of an interesting... It's kind of interesting. Do you tell them? Tucker's great. I say, take the blindfold off. Do you tell them? but the interesting answer is actually what I do tell him Tucker is that

I did have privilege I didn't grow up in money but I had two parents in the house a mother and a father with a focus on education and a faith in God and you know what that is the ultimate privilege that if I'm going to enjoy that,

every kid in this country ought to enjoy it too. So from that clip, and the reason I wanted to play it is I'm going to refresh for you right now the prediction markets for the GOP presidential nomination, which currently has Vivek Ramaswamy

at 13 cents, Ron DeSantis at 15, and Trump at 62. Trump, the clear front runner. Let's refresh and see where we're at. And Vivek has dropped down by one cent. Ron DeSantis has gone up by one cent. These things are very much in flux

considering these clips are still going around right now. But Vivek Ramaswamy has skyrocketed. I mean, if we take a look at this, let's go to 90 days in the prediction market. Take a look at this. He's jumping.

He is climbing the ranks. DeSantis is dropping down rather quickly. I do think, and again, these are not polls, but I think the people who are tracking the political landscape who are making bets on what the outcome is going to be, I think we're very close to seeing Vivek Ramaswamy take second place relatively soon. I think that, like what Vivek said at the very very end like I'm an agnostic and I agree

with him oh hands down you know it was fantastic yeah absolutely um family privilege that's why he's advancing in the polls like this because he speaks I think that he speaks in a very um authentic way he doesn't sound like a politician I don't think or at least He doesn't sound like a politician, I don't think, or at least he doesn't come across like a politician to people, because he does sound very polished, but I don't feel like he's just delivering a narrative kind of line. And maybe that's my own personal opinion, because I'm rather, I find his arguments compelling. I like listening to him. I think all his arguments are compelling.

He wants to dismantle the government in various pieces and i think what he says a lot is some smart solutions so i'm happy that he's getting this out to get a little bit more name recognition and i'm surprised that desantis has followed so much but you know he has so much negative attention now. I mean, with Disney, whether you're right or wrong, and his anti-cannabis, whether that's right or wrong, he's just kind of like just driving it into the ground.

Yeah, you know, look, don't ask me why. I've got my opinions on these things. But what I've been saying to many DeSantis supporters is just look at the prediction markets and the polls. He's going down.

Okay? That is not for me wanting to happen. I think he's an excellent leader who really has his ear to the ground on all these issues. But I think he's doing a very terrible job campaign-wise. But even if you think I'm wrong, I'm curious why he's in this decline. If you ignore it, it'll only get worse. Yeah, and his wife's a perfect running mate for him. He's in this decline. If you ignore it, it'll only get worse. Yeah, and his wife's a perfect running mate for him.

She's out. She's well-polished. So she's adding, I think, a lot of value. But then at the same time, he's obviously crashing. Not enough value. Who do you guys want? Libertarian. Well, you're a libertarian too, Phil. Man, if Vivek and RFK made it, I feel like America wins.

But why? Just to voting. Why RFK, though? I'm a big fan of him. He's got a big, long history of very authoritarian positions. Disavow. Disavow. No, here's what I would say, personally.

For the Democrat leadership, he's the best they got yeah because with all his bad policies he's better than all the rest way better you know so i would love to see that but and so for me it's kind of like uh i'm i'm not a big libertarian libertarian party kind of guy i'm actually more like fairly liberal on the political spectrum so i look at an rfk junior like you know i think he's really trying to be a populist he's really trying to reach the people and uh he's speaking about a lot of uh current issues that are good so we've talked about the power of like a trump kennedy ticket but uh i don't want to ask you about republicans because you know you're libertarian is there is there a liberty is there someone you want to see run for the libertarian

ticket uh i've seen a couple people who are run for the Libertarian ticket? I've seen a couple people who are running for the Libertarian ticket, but yeah, I don't quite feel that they're quite ready for the task. Who's announced for the Libertarians? Chase. Oh, Chase is from Georgia, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Chase Oliver. Chase Oliver. Yeah. I believe he's announced. But yeah, I mean, I know who he he is I followed him in the Georgia election I know where he got his spotlight from with the whole Senate election but you know Shane Hazel did it the year before I did the same year as Shane Hazel did in North Carolina you know getting three percent and breaking the the barrier and you know switching the election it happens every year somewhere along the line and that's really kind of what he's riding i don't really know enough

about him i don't agree with them on some of the uh qia issues the lgbt you know yeah which can it chase yeah yeah you know libertarians tend not to really agree with each other you know yeah you know a lot of them just say uh you know things aren't good but at the same time we live in a society where you just can't run amok yeah i love i love that meme though with groundskeeper willie and he's like libertarians they ruined libertarianism i mean the the first thing that or the best way to know that you're an actual libertarian is another libertarian says you're not a real libertarian that's right that's it you know yeah we're we're getting into it right now i know a lot of people

said oh it's so early we're only a few weeks in for a lot of these candidates but uh this is where the pickup happens because the primaries are coming i think what march yeah of next year so that's gonna be a big deal it is a very very big deal historically that joe biden is even facing a primary as the incumbent with one more term available to him that's surprising i don't i mean it's i think that it's surprising that there are people that are kind of speaking up but at at the same time it's also surprising that he's actually the president because he's it's really clear that he's not the guy running the show. He's a puppet. Yeah.

I mean, we've got it's run by the bureaucracy, the existing bureaucracy, and it's not Joe Biden that's making the calls. I mean, he's the perfect candidate for him. Yeah, but not anymore. No, I mean, in the future, because he's the perfect candidate for him yeah but not anymore no i mean in the future because he's not in charge yeah i wonder if the the reason they ran biden was because they feared prosecution if uh if trump won biden's in trouble yeah if any other democrat won biden doesn't have any control and may get thrown under the bus so let's say 2020 you know let's just say hypothetically Newsom gets elected for all his faults and problems when stories start

breaking about Biden's their corruption say these these stories out of like Politico that came out you know almost 10 years ago new you know any other Democrat might be like look we're not going to sacrifice the future of our administration because the mistakes and the problems you encountered I do think they'd still probably protect him, but he would not have the power of the presidential seat to protect himself. So I wonder if a large component was, oh, Trump started looking into what we were doing in Ukraine. We better we better get Biden in so we can put an end to this, because that's really was the big issue. Biden did not announce he was running for president. Trump calls Ukraine and says, hey, what's up with this video they then claim in the media

donald trump was digging up dirt on his political opponent as if the only thing they could have done has been like uh he's running for office you can't do that you can't you can't look at these crimes and then now he's got to run for office you know what i mean and democrat media establishment fell in line right away and started immediately shifting the narrative that direction yeah i mean that that was gonna go as soon as soon as there was someone that was establishment approved the the media was gonna go all in anyways that there wasn't a whole lot of question about that who's gonna be now is gonna be like newsome i mean overwhelming the prediction markets are saying joe biden but

he's at like 60 60 like he's the incumbent he should be 100 it is interesting seeing the way that like the fact that there's any competition at all kind of proves that if you're not paying close attention you wonder how that could possibly be because if you're not paying close attention you just assume he's doing a great job you don't know what's actually going on in the world but if there's any competition at all it does prove that there is a bit of a dent in the armor there and it's hard for the average person to see but just even hearing about an rfk if you're somebody that doesn't pay close attention to politics i would hope that would at least wake them up and be like why is there anyone even questioning this at all you could actually i guess mention his age would be a big part of it like a lot of people even if they're not politically uh initiated might wonder why is a

guy his age going to be running again trump's trump's fairly old as well yeah what what is what is 75 a year younger than biden he just doesn't show it no way he's more than he's yeah he's four years four or five or five like he will be the same age like he would have been the same age at the next election that b Biden was when he got elected. And I think, what was RFK? He's 69 or 70? Yeah, he's like 69 or 70. We need some younger people. I can absolutely understand. Vivek!

Vivek, yeah, Vivek's what, 38? Yeah. Maybe 37. He's young. But Ron DeSantis, too. I certainly understand that. But I got to tell you, man, if Ron is hurting this much in the polls and they're not course correcting, I think that's a failure of leadership. I think I love his policy.

I think the reason Ron is kind of tanking is because Ron doesn't have the charisma people thought that he was going to have. Like when he gets onto the onto the national stage, people aren't like he's not magnetic when he's on stage. He doesn't have the charisma. He's not. He's not like Barack Obama. He's charisma he's not he's not like uh barack obama he's not bill clinton he's not donald trump and those are three people that had

really really significant charisma and you there's an argument that uh that bush had really good charisma as well so that could be it but the a big part of that is people like the idea that he was more stoic and that he could be a version of trump without being more bombastic and that was the top but that doesn't work once you actually have to come out and speak more regularly just because that was an argument doesn't mean that was actually what the the country was going to feel yeah you know what i mean so it's and i'm just saying that this is this could be i don't know but it would make sense that the more people get exposed to him and hear him speak outside of just in the context of Florida, the less they actually like him. I'm not paying as close attention to that as I was before, but when somebody mentioned his stance on weed, I'm like, really?

Really? Even if that is your stance, why are you talking about it now? Why wouldn't you hold off and just not mention it like it just it seems like a disconnection there are still republicans that like that you know well we can talk about the viability of the republicans and uh there will be more developments of course maybe ronda santis will uh shift some of his campaign really sort of take off it is early there's a lot of opportunity for him there but let's talk about the other side here. Joe Biden. What's he currently up to?

I have this tweet for you from Andrew at Don't Walk Run. He said, here's the raw footage of creepy Joe Biden trying to sniff slash eat a random Finnish child. I'm going to play this video for you. pat on the shoulder and he walks away now the first thing i want to say is when biden sees this little kid and starts doing the om nom nom thing or whatever and they're all laughing if this was a family member and being ende to a grandchild, I might be like, you know, whatever. But here's the bigger issue.

For one, this is a strange guy doing, what are you doing to this kid, man? That's inappropriate. But also, it's the double dip. The double dip. Watch this clip.

I'm going to go slow. After he moves back, he goes back in and does this very weird sniff. Right there. Look at that. Slow motion. Slow motion.

And reverse. The first one, you can say, oh, he's just being old, you know, family Uncle Joe, Grandpa Joe, whatever. And then, the kid looks distressed. Look at the kid's face. And he goes in for an extra sniff. Right there. Sniff. What's with the sniff?

Yo, I... He's sniffing! Sniffing, Joe! And he promised he'd stop. You remember this? He doesn't. I guarantee you he does not remember making that promise. That explains it.

A man needs a leash. Yeah. Just imagine being any of the people that have to work on that campaign anytime he has to go out anywhere near children, and they're just like... You think Usher's a menace. Yes. Well, Usher may be a menace. Biden's a worse menace. That is

for sure. So, Joe Biden, he goes out a few years ago and he's sniffing women and squeezing them and touching them. Yeah, like adults too, right? Yes, yes. And then everyone was like, hey, yo, Joe, you gotta stop. He comes out and he's like, I'm sorry. I'm just, you know,

I'm an old man. We used to do this stuff. I'm willing to bet when that happened, things like this, he goes back and he gets into the vehicle or whatever

and they're like- It's 88 miles an hour. No, they go, Joe, you need to stop stiffing kids. And he goes, I'm an old man. I got very few things left in life. Give me this one.

Wait, who is it when they're like, I'm not a pervert. I'm Italian. That was Cuomo. Yeah, is there a Biden version of that? I'm a Delaware man. And then Cuomo went on to post a video of all the time he inappropriately touched people. Dude, the thing is, I know there were women that were like, I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it.

Because I personally know more than one woman that said to me, yeah, I mean, it's Cuomo. He's fine. I don't care that he did. I'm like, I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. Because I personally know more than one woman that said to me, yeah, I mean, it's Cuomo. He's fine. I don't care that he did. I'm like, really? That is insane to me. I mean, come on. Look, the average woman, they see Joe Biden,

and they're fanning themselves. Indeed. I mean, come on. He's a regular Humphrey Bogart. I'm sure Tara Reid has nothing but. He's a regular Hugh Hefner who's a celebrity from that era

that would have been considered well Hugh Hefner back in the day was supposed to be and he's dead just like Joe wait wait

who's that who's that Lane guy hmm Lane Jack Lane was that his name well Jack Lane

was a fitness one of the first fitness guys yeah super ripped you know ladies they loved him. He was very in shape.

Tara Reid would beg to differ. Yeah. About Joe Biden. Oh, yeah, the Joe Biden phone call. You've got to make that like the campaign thing because they talk about how Trump can't get suburban women votes because he's like grody, like lecherous or whatever. Just, okay, well, you know, play the Biden game.

Just, you know, you go to a voter and be like, I want you to imagine Joe Biden. He comes up from behind, slides his hands onto your back. I'm already done. Gives you a little squeeze and then a... How do you feel? Would you like to vote for him? Violated.

Yeah, would you like to vote for him? I've never felt more victimized in my life i i just i mean it's been years and here we are once again with a viral video everybody's sharing it of joe biden sniffing kids well honestly though like this is only going to get worse because he's not getting it cognitively he's not getting better and they're getting rid of all the drugs in the white house so he won't not getting better. And they're getting rid of all the drugs in the White House, so he won't be able to take those. I doubt they're getting rid of it. They've already made, no, they're not getting rid of the drugs.

They're making the problems go away. They're not making the drugs go away. I think they should just let him have them. Just give them to him. Remember when they said that the drugs may have been from a journalist? That was actually a warning to the journalists who reported on it. The Secret Service, they look at the reporter and they're like, maybe it belonged to a journalist and they're like you know uh no no no with a suey head wearing

the story goes away yeah that's exactly what happened at least that's what i want to wait wait could you imagine like come on joe body's what I want to believe. Wait, wait, wait. Could you imagine, like, come on, Joe Biden's, what, 80 years old now? Yeah. We are going to get to a point. You know how they say, like, old people are racist because they just don't care anymore? Or something like that? Yeah. Like, what happens when we get to that point where they can't control Joe because he's

just so old he just doesn't care? And he's like, look, you know, my life expectancy was two years ago. I got nothing, you know? You can't hold, you know, my life expectancy was two years ago. I got nothing. You know, you can't hold. You got no leverage anymore. Sounds like he's on the floor of the Senate in 1996 or something. They're going to kill him off and then do the what's that Bernie thing where they just kind of bring his body around. Are we going to burn?

Oh, we can burn. But look, look, look. What do you threaten Joe Biden with? They're going to go to him and say, like, look, Joe, we want you to make these moves. I'm 80. I'm past my life expectancy. And they're like, well, you have a son, don't you? And he's like, oh, are you kidding me? I'm going to respond to a threat to that guy.

They have to withhold ice cream. That's the only thing they have over him. No, no, no, no. The other way around. Positive reinforcement. They say, okay, okay, fine. What if we get you some Tog and Dots? And he's like all right we'll get you some we'll get you some ben and jerry's and we'll have a clown feed it to you no but but in all seriousness there's got to come a point where joe biden just there was that video where i think he was campaigning in like 2020 and some guy asked

him a question and he just snaps that's going think that's because he's just like, I don't care. I'm so done. And he's in this position. I feel like, you know, a lot of people have wondered, like, why would they try and replace him in the primary? Isn't Joe the deep state? Like, wouldn't he just step down voluntarily if they really wanted someone else? And I'm like, yeah, maybe he's just gone rogue.

Maybe he's just like, I do whatever I want. I don't care. You got nothing over me. Maybe they have a schedule and they just told him, wait, just hold out until we announce blah, blah, blah, or whatever. I really don't think that he has a significant amount of input. I really feel like he's like, you know, handlers do the whole deal for him. That's what they love about it, right?

Yeah. And every time they think about getting rid of him, they look at Kamala. They're like, eh, we'll do it. A couple more kids is fine. We'll keep going. It's fine. Look at this. This is the prediction market for the Democrats.

Joe Biden's at 65 cents. He is the sitting president and incumbent. And there's people, a lot of them, 35% who think, yeah, he ain't going to win. Gavin Newsom. You know what it is, though? What you got to understand about these prediction markets is there's also a value bet in that, look, if I spend 21 cents on a share of Gavin Newsom, that's nearly a five times return if he gets the nomination.

That's really what it's about. I still think it's fair to consider it should be 100 for Joe Biden. The fact that Predict It decided to make a contract on if he would even be the nominee says a lot he's the freaking guy that saved democracy didn't he he came and swooped in and said yo i'm saving democracy from the donald trump and meg americans and are like he's the one who was was like the saving grace for america right but i like that saving democracy from trump supporters that's what I like that. Saving democracy from Trump supporters. That's what he said, yeah.

Basically saying like removing them from the democratic process. One hundred percent. That's the point. Like that, like I talk about like Maoism and stuff a lot. Like that's what he, when they say our democracy, the people that are the deplorables are not included. They are not part of their democracy. That is a distinction between people that support them and people that don't. It's the same kind of crap that Mao did, too.

Mao would, it was, I'm saying it in Chinese, but it was the same thing. It was our democracy because they use the same phrases. They use democracy and they talk about it. But with their understanding, it's not a full democracy unless everybody has an equal voice, not just, you know, everyone gets a vote. But it was the same thing. I feel like what they're basically saying is our democracy refers to us all in agreement with each other. Yes, 100%. You guys are not in agreement, so we must remove you from the process.

100%. It's why they also laugh at the idea when you point out the fact that it's not a democracy that you do live in a constitutional republic and there are things that that entails and then they laugh at that because that's not actually what they're talking about yep absolutely like that's that is the the line that they're using there's so much stuff again lynn james lindsey from uh new discourses he did a podcast on this and he went through a speech that mao did and and that was translated to English. And then he said, look, this right here, what that Mao was saying is the exact same thing that Kamala Harris means when she says this.

This right here that Mao was saying is the exact same thing when you translate it to English that the that the that Joeiden is saying here so there's this when when i say that there are communist influence throughout all of our government it goes through the bureaucracy all the way up through actual like dsa members but all the way to the the presidency there are some people that repeat the things knowingly that they're communist things and there are some people that repeat them without knowing that they're repeating communist propaganda but there's a ton of communist propaganda in the media right who is in the media and in the government. Who is the CNN reporter that, like, they had him change his shot,

and there was, like, a picture of Mao and his wall behind him. Do you remember that? I saw that. Like, it's, and they're just, they're like, ignore that. That didn't, or they just expect you to not know.

These are not the clowns you're looking for. This is not the Mao you're looking for. Yeah. He's known for plagiarism, so maybe he's consciously going through and greeting it thinking it's chinese nobody will know he's like hey this mouth guy's all right here we go get some quotes from this guy huh come on man all right are you guys ready for this one i love this story this is a meme abc news says trump's unprecedented campaign speech campaign pitch

trump's unprecedented campaign pitch elect me to get revenge on the government mega baby i love it because they write this unironically and libertarians post-liberals trump supporters are screen grabbing it and posting the chad meme with just yes yes yes the most compelling thing i've ever heard a politician say in my life yes get revenge on the government sign me up look at this donald trump has told supporters not to just see him as a candidate but as quote your retribution yes milo said this on this show said this uh he said in his comeback bid for the white house the former president twice impeached but twice acquitted now twice indicted haha has vowed that if re-ed, he will wield his power to personally remake parts of the federal government to a degree that historian Mark Updegrove said was unprecedented.

Trump has promised to hamstring perceived enemies, including the DOJ, which is currently investigating him, and target Republican boogeyman like President Joe Biden. It sounds like they're saying Joe Biden's a Republican. He swore in June to appoint a special prosecutor to go after the Bidens. Okay, good. And that he would totally obliterate the deep state.

I'm not hearing any insult or negativity. I would, you know, referring to a conspiratorial view of how the government operates. This is the final battle. Either they win or we win, he said. The libertarians just got out-Libertarian'd

by the bump stock guy! What are you doing? Well, come on, what do you got to say? I think it's an excellent speech, but what's his policy actually going to be? How is he really going

to do it? We know that he's a middle finger, but is he going to take out the IRS? Is he going to take out DOE? What is he actually going to do it? We know that he's a middle finger, but is he going to take out the IRS? Is he going to take out DOE? What is he actually going to do? DeSantis said he was going to do that, didn't he? He talked about Department of Education, yeah. Oh, education, education. Which is, I mean, I love it. Yeah. If

all Donald Trump at this point has is they have slighted me and I will fire them, I'll be like, okay, take my vote. I mean, fire them all. Can libertarians disagree? I mean, you know, fire them all. And I don't think that he would be entirely successful, but it would be a lot of fun to watch him try.

Yeah, I think he'd be successful at this point. I mean, I just want to stress, I don't think he did a perfect job in his first term. I didn't vote for him in 2016. I think he did some moderately good things with, in terms of foreign policy, I really liked. And some culture war issues. He was very late in the game, too.

So he's not, he wasn't my first choice. Your guy said DeSantis, because DeSantis has been on top of the game when it comes to culture war issues. But Donald Trump comes out, and he's like, don't know, don't care, I want revenge, I'm going to fire everybody. And I'm like, I see fire in his eyes. That's all I can ask for. Well, it's not necessarily about the American people. It's his revenge. But we all may benefit from his revenge.

That's right. You know what I mean? Considering how selfish and narcissistic the guy is, I want him to make it personal. Because that's way more of a motivator than me. Right. Like, I'm not motivated. Donald Trump doesn't give a crap about me. If I'm standing on the sidewalk and there's like, you know, a guy behind me and I see

Trump barreling full speed, power walking all angry, I'm getting out of the way. Right. I'm going to be like, whoa, I'm not going to, don't let me stand in your way, sir. And that may mean you are not getting what you want, but the guy behind you turns out to be a mugger that was after you. And so I'm like, I'll take it. If you're in a war zone and your enemy gets hit with friendly fire, thumbs up. That's cool.

If they're going to smoke each other, take each other out. Fine. If Donald Trump wants to go in there and actually make cuts, go. Get him. Isn't it funny how terrified the corporate press is, though? It's delicious. Why are journalists so scared that someone would fire bureaucrats? Access. Because they're friendly with the bureaucrats now,

and because they have their personal email addresses and their personal home phone numbers, and sometimes they get scoops. So it's all about access. One of the hardest things, I think, would be, if he's talking about getting rid of the deep state, it's the unelected officials, right? You can fire all the heads of departments you want, but all of those heads of departments have trained people under them who think like they do, who they've groomed for those positions farther up.

So it's not just getting rid of whoever you're talking about, whether you're talking about CIA, all of these departments. There's going to be somebody that's going to come in there because it's not like this is one generation of a problem. This is multi-generational and it will take more than one president if you're going to actually turn things around. This is my opinion. And I don't know for sure what the legality is of the president actually getting rid of cabinet level. Well, that's what I'm saying.

What does that mean? Getting rid of? Abolishing. So when I say get rid of, I mean abolish at of cabinet level saying like what does that mean getting rid of abolishing like when i so when i say get rid of i mean abolish at the cabinet level so the whole department from the the seat on the cabinet all the way down to the you know ground enforcers of whatever department we're talking about whether it be hud whether it be the Department of Energy, which I don't know that we can do that because of the nuclear stuff. But still, the Department of the Interior, DOT, IRS, well, that's part of the Treasury, so that would be a little different.

But there's plenty of stuff that he could get rid of as the executive and just be like, get out of here. In the Justice Department alone, he could do stuff with the FBI, get rid of the stuff with the FBI by executive order. He can get rid of stuff with the atf by executive order because if if i understand correctly i could be wrong but i that's the way that i believe because he is the executive of the or he is the executive he can get rid of stuff in the department of justice so like that would be a great place to start fbi and and atf and stuff but the more that he's looking to cut whoever's looking to cut the most that's who i'm behind the second most cuts is the second person i'm behind like that it's that simple like i don't give a crap about any of their personalities who's going to

shrink the federal government the most because right now it's the biggest government in human history so don't tell me we can't cut trump should go to libertarian rallies and be like i'm gonna fire everybody he shouldn't he should have gone to pork fest and they're gonna seriously yeah and they're gonna and they're gonna be like i really don't want to vote for bump stock donnie but yeah if he really is gonna fire these people and like you can see the fire in his eyes and the want for revenge i mean you might actually get it yeah that's that's that's like the difficult libertarian position i guess you know even dave smith was like there's some foreign policy stuff he did that was good and it's like man but also like the didn't they also question why didn't you pardon assange why didn't you

yeah that would have been like how'd he done that i would have really liked to have seen that it felt like a lot of that stuff the pardons at the end a lot of that stuff felt very performative uh and there was more important real change that he could have made through that stuff that would have been, even on the way out, would have been good for his reelection campaign. Snowden and Assange, has he done that? He would have won the hearts of a lot of libertarians just because of that move. We did have Don Jr. on, and he did say it's time we do pardon Assange and Snowden. And I'm not even asange and Snowden. And I'm not even as bullish on Snowden, to be completely honest.

You know, Snowden is like a middle-of-the-road thing for me. Assange is no-brainer. Assange shouldn't be charged at all. He's an international journalist who is wrongly charged with deep BS. They falsely accuse him of abusing women. Not true. Now they're accusing him of espionage. Literally a journalist.

What does he do? He gets information. He publishes information. Snowden was a leaker. Snowden took information, gave it to journalists without knowing what it was. There's an argument to be made that it was so good what he did, exposing things like X-key score and NSA spying, that it's high time we say, look, no more exile. Come on home, man. We are happy we got this information. But the thing about snowden it's like you know the big issue is he did not know what he was giving out he knew some of it but he just took a bulk thing i'm not all about encouraging that i like whistleblowers i think people should expose darkness and corruption but we have security in this country for a reason like

i like this country i like the fact that we we defend ourselves. You know, you can't just leak everything. But that being said, even Don Jr. said, I think it's high time we do. Pardon him. That doesn't mean Trump Sr. would do it, but it does show that there is at least a sphere of influence in the Trump world that is starting to be like, let's roll with it. I do think the reason Trump wanted Assange brought to the U.S. was because Assange knows things pertaining to the Clintons, the establishment, neolibs, neocons. And Trump wanted that information. And Assange would not give it up because Assange has integrity. And he is a journalist and he protects his sources. So I think that was a strong component for Trump.

He knew he's like, this guy's got information we need and won't give it up. I also think that the intel agencies are a big part of why we need to pare back, right? It's like you just can't, you cannot do a lot of this unless we figure out a way to limit the influence of these Intel agencies who are essentially responsible to no one, accountable to no one you're right but the information that the that we're worried about the intel agencies collecting is the information that we're voluntarily giving to all the social media companies and google and stuff so i get it you're right and i would i don't i don't know what the way or the best way to prevent the government from just subpoenaing it because the the these companies are just throwing the information at the feds as soon as the feds ask they're just like yeah yeah because again access because of favor with the most powerful government ever so i don't know what the right way to fix it is but they've already got

the information you know your social media companies and stuff like that they all have the information out there so for the feds it's just a matter of sending the subpoena we've given all of our stuff up but it also seems like the focus isn't is increasingly more domestic right oh yeah we are not focusing overseas the way we used to we're focusing a lot more on domestic terrorism with patriot front and other such federal organizations uh like it just it just feels like that's where a lot of those cuts would need to come. But it's going to be very hard to do that because they're so burrowed into our government. Well, the whole Patriot Act itself, you know, it's called the Patriot Act because it sounds awesome.

But all it is is an apartment. Oh, that too. I thought you said Patriot Front. Patriot Front. Another group, you know, domestic terrorists. And that's a big part of our focus here in this country now is they're using that as a weapon against regular americans who are not idiots like patriot that's the federal theater kid exactly i want to pull up this year tweet we have a big story we didn't get into it yesterday because of course we're talking about sound of freedom but twitter is now going to be paying its uh its personality

to generate a certain amount of uh impressions, Twitter will operate in a similar way that YouTube does, that if you produce content that gets views and those views deliver ads, you get a cut of these ads. I was pleasantly surprised rather abruptly to get a pop-up on Twitter that said they were paying me about six grand. And I'm like, I didn't even do anything. Like, I barely even use Twitter. But I want to pull up this tweet from brian krasenstein

the uh i think brian has been on a tear lately with some excellent tweets and this one is very good uh for those that are familiar he is a liberal personality but check out this one this is good he tweets the most entertaining outcome is the most likely outcome i believe it was elon who said that wasn't it or is that a quote from somebody else that's musk yeah elon said that and he goes blocked by trump on twitter in 2018 unblocked by trump on twitter in 2019 banned from twitter in 2019 unbanned by elon in 2022 made 25 000 from twitter in 2023 at this rate i'll be cfo of twitter by 2024 and trump's vp by 25 so uh here's what's funny about this story. Of course, we'll get into the Twitter stuff. But Taylor Lorenz, you know her, you love her, wrote,

Far-right Twitter influencers first on Elon Musk's monetization scheme. I love it. Andrew Tate. I am pretty sure that Brian Krasenstein, the liberal Biden voter, made more money than Andrew Tate. And the Krasensteins, because it's his brother as well, even pointed out that between them, they made way more money than some of these other personalities. And Taylor Lorenz is calling it far right and omitting them from the story. I far righted before we came.

I came over to here for the show. I went to the gym and I was doing cardio. Oh, geez. I'm sure that Jojo from jurors and Brooklyn Dad are doing fine on Twitter as far as monetization. But yeah. They don't get it from Twitter, though. They get it from the DNC. Yes, exactly.

Right. Did you say, Kellen, earlier that you said that Taylor Lorenz was offered to box with Ashley Sinclair? I think Ashley Sinclair put the offer out there. It's never going to happen. Taylor Lorenz will never. No, never. Ashley Sinclair posted I think Ashley Sinclair. No, Ashley Sinclair offered to buy. Yeah. It's never going to happen. Taylor Lorenz never. No, never. No, Ashley Sinclair.

Too bad. I got a shout out for the Krasenstein brothers. We've had him on the show before, but Brian responded to Taylor Lorenz's article. For those that are not familiar with this context, Taylor Lorenz is a notoriously bad journalist who has written false and misleading stories. So in response to saying far-right Twitter influencers make money, he said, you might be reading the Washington Post article by Taylor Lorenz and be thinking, but Brian Krasenstein made $24,000 from Elon.

He's not far-right. All I can say is, I work out. And I said, I warned you, Brian. He posted a video of him working out, and I said, you're going to become conservative. That's how it goes. Start going to the gym. Yeah, and then Ed Krasenstein, his brother, also criticized this very heavily, saying it was factually incorrect.

Noting that there were right-wing personalities posting this, but that they had actually made more money than a lot of people. This is the media's game. What happened is Threads comes out by Instagram. It sucks. It's horrible elon then launches as prescribed in february that there would be rev sharing like youtube does and other social media platforms do instagram and facebook do and now they're acting like it is a big scheme to bribe people to stay on the platform and they're acting like it's the far right so let me get this straight does youtube bribe people is yeah all of

these liberal personalities and leftists stop. They refuse to pay for Twitter. They stop using Twitter. And then when the people who actually use the platform get paid, they go, aha! Elon Musk is bribing people. It's like, dude, the Krasensteins used the platform, stuck to the platform. They're liberals. They made money.

At any rate, this is a very, very big deal in that there is now a viable platform for monetization outside of YouTube. Look, I tweet random nonsense. I have 1.7 million followers on Twitter. I don't know why. But thank you for following me on Twitter. Now I kind of know why. Now I'm like, oh, I should post clips onto Twitter. I should post content there.

We should simulcast the stream or do something like that on Twitter because now there's an opportunity to break the censorship market and shatter the censorship. Get all those hot takes you've been saving up forever and just start dropping them one by one so you can start making money. I mean, the thing is, I don't know if they've got special rates for people that

produce content that's exclusive for Twitter or what the deal's going to be, but a place like this produces plenty of content to put up on the old Twitter machine, you know? I think it's awesome over the last few weeks you've seen with the Young Turks. I can't remember her name. Anna. Anna. And now with the Krasensteins.

I don't want to call it a red pilling because I don't think it's quite that. But they're kind of seeing just how crazy the cult is, right? Because they got paid from Twitter, they're right wing now like come on man so i hope the krasnoy scenes kind of i think they know i think they realize how kind of extreme the left can be at times and i i think definitely anna knows from the young turks but it's been awesome to witness you know from like a backseat kind of perspective over the last few weeks because she does not want to be a birthing person yeah no no bonus holes that's why everyone's upset i haven't heard that one yeah he caught me off guard that that one ends up in the chat

very often that one ends up in the chat very often when you're on live. I mean, I don't blame her, you know? But we're just seeing the mob online come after the Krasensteins and the Young Turks, and it's over nothing. I mean, seemingly nothing. Just having a difference of opinion. We had, on the culture war this morning, we had two drag queens. One was a more leftist drag queen. One was a, not really left or right just an

older drag queen the uh kitty demure and maybe a girl were the two drag queens and uh kitty uh the drag queen's name i suppose i believe it's kitty i could be wrong but i was saying look you know kids should not be in these things these are for adults these are nightlife these are nightclub things these are party things and uh the left was was saying uh more otherwise that was basically the argument but the interesting thing about it was the uh the cult-like ideology that persists in the left's view and there was a moment on the show the reason i bring this up is that i think the the drag queen the leftist may have stumbled into something inadvertently which could cause problems for them i criticized the book genderqueer at the end of the show saying conservatives have criticized this book without reading it and they should read

it and uh many and you know post-liberal thinkers and anti-woke people have criticized the book without reading it they should because they highlight this book genderqueer as having graphic images that shouldn't be shown to kids that's correct but the book is about this individual this author's deep abuse and trauma growing up from abusive parents being forced to reuse menstrual products for for days on end to the point where they smelled horribly were pulled out of class not being able to read till 12 having to uh go about their you know relief business outside and uh maybe said thank you for that in response i don't think that thank you will fly with the cult on the left and that i think whether i'm right or wrong my point is just my

perception of it there is a clear fall in line say whatever you're supposed to say no matter what it is no matter how silly silly it is or else whereas whatever this faction is it's conservative liberal libertarian people disagreeing on a ton of issues but like kind of just being chill with each other i get called bigot by other libertarians just because of my stance on that particular issue just because you're a libertarian. Just because I'm a libertarian. Yeah, but what is up with that? I mean, let's talk about that,

because, you know, George Jorgensen, I think it was 2020, right, tweeted that cult worship line, it is not enough to not be racist, we must be actively anti-racist, which is basically a cult mantra. It's like effectively a neo-Marxist prayer. To see a libertarian tweet, we must do something, was kind of hilarious to me. Like, we all must do these things. I thought we were all about individual liberty and responsibility.

I'm curious your thoughts on that element of the libertarian party and those ideas. Yeah, I'm all about the individual and not necessarily the party itself. I was a libertarian well before I even knew what the party was when I was kind of looking for my identity, you know, back when McCain and Sarah Palin were running and I just didn't like any of my options. So, I mean, I adopted ideology just because it makes sense to me. You know, you don't hurt other people, you don't take people's stuff. And you just kind of mind your own business and live your life. But now you have the government coming in and ultimately trying to make decisions for you,

both on the left and the right. One tries to police your existence, and the other one does now the same thing and tries to take your money along with it and you know now they're they're redefining society now in a culture war that doesn't even seem to make sense to me um and they're drawing lines in the sand that you know i've talked to people in the l the g the b and the t communities and they're all in agreement right and then you have the qias uh and i don't even know what the i and the a stand for but intersex right in uh queer intersex and asexual but there's more than that there's two two si uh you know two spirits right yeah and yes and then like there's a bunch

of other letters that go into it but i mean i feel like with with the t right i i feel like a lot of that is like with the body dysphoria uh and the in the in the middle aspects where the q is more just how i feel today well so here's the interesting thing i mean i mean the the the t does encompass what uh the drag queen earlier was saying is trans non-binary in which people will be gender fluid that's how they describe it boy you about to find out oh yeah but here's what i see with the the progress pride flag it is at one point it was a rainbow flag to symbolize you know the lgbt community then they added these stripes to it then they added a triangle to it then they added a circle to it they're basically it's like the horde in world of Warcraft.

You guys know what that reference is? Yep. It was these various bands of fractured cultures that came together. And so the idea behind that flag is aggrieved groups forming under one banner. They don't necessarily make sense. It does not make sense to have a gay pride flag that includes black people well because not all black people are gay i mean the the insinuation that this is a pride flag for gay lgbt pride and all black and brown people are component of that doesn't seem to make a lot it's it's not the same thing have people started i feel like people started calling it the progress

flag do you feel like that's an i believe it's called the progress pride flag. Okay. Maybe this is all just a really good plot from a flag maker who just wants to sell you a new flag every couple of years because they have to keep adding things to it constantly. It's just all about oppression. Yeah, it's called the progress pride flag. And so it's now got black, brown, sky blue, pink, white, a yellow triangle, and a purple circle.

It's basically just putting symbols of aggrieved groups into one flag. What's the purple circle? I believe it could be asexual. Is there a white diamond? It could be intersex. Nothing white. There's a white stripe. There is a white stripe, too. but we know what group is not included and

that's well no no so the progress pride flag does have a white triangle on it and that's because uh uh the what is this okay so the progress pride flag right here the largest component of it is a white triangle and that's because they all uh agree that uh they think white people are the most powerful and you know of course they want to make sure they're represented perfectly on their flag i'm kidding by the way it is it is true there's a giant white triangle on the flag maybe that's for the white women there's no there's no explanation for the white triangle is really karen i mean maybe yeah that's where the power of karen is stored let's let me look this up but what what are the colors what do they mean okay so let's see the progress pride flag and i pulled this thing about i pulled up on my phone for whatever reason it

said what do the rainbow stripes mean red is life orange is healing yellow is sunlight green is nature blue is harmony purple is spirit okay what do the triangles mean the light blue light pink and white section represent transgender yeah the black and brown stripes represent marginalized communities of color the black stripe represents those who have been lost to aids holy wait what really that is i i feel like that's deeply racist i mean to say that the black stripe for black people is the aid stripe is horrifyingly racist i think the brown stripe is wow people of color that the black stripe for black people is the AIDS stripe is horrifyingly racist. I think the brown stripe is for people of color and the black stripe is for... No, no, no.

Look, I don't know. This is KansasCity.com. This is a... It looks like... It's so annoying. Oh, these websites are terrible. This is a Kansas City star. And it says that the black stripe represents AIDS and black people.

I'm not exaggerating. let me pull this up this is shocking to me i mean we can't give age another color i feel like depending on where you go they're gonna have a different definition for this flag and it's part of what tim was saying how it's like uh war of work or world of warcraft how it's all these random groups under one banner look look look it's perfectly stupid this is the kansas city star news guard certified 92.5 out of 100 june 20th 2022 what does it mean i i will i will scroll this is exactly what i was reading i can't believe they actually wrote this it says the black and brown stripes represent people of color and then it says the black stripe also represents people of lost to aids they're quite literally saying that the black stripe represents black people and aids victims in the same category that is deeply racist what about the covid stripe there's no covid

stripe like what about the other diseases that affect so many people yes but but that obviously there isn't there is when it comes to pride there isn't a question over aids and and epidemic and what happened in the 80s and Reagan and all that stuff. I can understand them wanting to include it. But I didn't know that they were making one strike for black people and AIDS victims. I feel like that sounds deeply, deeply offensive. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, they don't think about this kind of stuff.

I really don't think they put a whole lot of thought into it i think that it's like like throwing stuff against the wall like throwing spaghetti into the wall see what sticks well why did they even have to do a race the black and brown to begin with are you serious they're marginalized uh and so have you turned on the television the past 10 years have you looked at a newspaper do you think the average person who flies the flag would be able to tell you like if you gave them a quiz you gave them like a thing and like it's got a little box there you have to mention like can you point out what this one means what this one means what this one means do you think the average person would be able to tell

you what any of those stripes yeah because we're teaching it in our school systems now it's like a little fill-in graph it's like a coloring sheet you have to fill it in and know what it means no it's like that tiktok of the the little boy who's with his mother and he recites lgbtqia like lightning fast it's second nature to him now like just like we recite the alphabet it is he's able to do the acronym we even have to do the shows like lgbtqia plus plus yeah yeah it's like you get done you're like your brain just kind of goes numb and your eyes go wide and you're just like because you had to say it so many times. Wow, this is StonewallSociety.com says that the victory over AIDS flag is the black stripe. So quite literally, they...

It's crazy, because when I was growing up in the 90s, they were very adamant that AIDS was not a LGBT disease. AIDS was something that everybody had to worry about. AIDS was something that, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And then now it's like, oh, well, this is a personal part of our story and our history. And it's like, were you joshing before like what why is it that like back you know again i mean i think that i think it's it's i think it's fairly common knowledge that the that aids as a a disease is mostly found in the gay community it's very it's

rarely found outside i don't think mostly is the correct word i think that in the gay community it's very it's it's rarely found outside i don't think mostly is the correct word i think that in the united states it largely impacts the gay community but uh i don't i don't think it's true to say that it is mostly no mostly means it's very different from um largely affecting okay yeah all right well fair enough then uh because i don't know particularly but it does you know speak to it's it's certainly saying something when they're like hey this is something that impacts our community uniquely which is what they're saying as far as i i gotta be honest i i am i am i am shocked to discover that uh they actually did that but i'm not surprised to hear that they're racist. I mean, I firmly believe the Democrats are deeply racist, have always been racist, have never stopped being racist.

And they always play this game of, oh, but the party's switched. And I'm like, dude, I don't care about political parties. I don't know nothing about that. All I know is y'all are racist. that is largely focused on race and continues to make race a topic is probably the one you can safely say is racist the one that says hey we don't want to focus on this stuff etc is probably not particularly racist that just seems to be fair you know obvious to me it's because you're trying to keep your power in office there by not talking about it. Man, that's crazy.

Yeah, you Republican. Oh, God. Alright, here we go. You guys ready for this one? From the National Review, Secret Service found marijuana twice at the White House in 2022. Okay. I mean, does that bother... It's legal there, right? Well, not inside a federal building.

No, but like, at what point do we say, come on? It depends on if it was like edibles or if it was. No, no, no. Just Phil. We know. I think we get it. All right. Someone just needs to.

Joe, can you ask your son just maybe. No. If he's going to smoke by, you know, if it's going to be him, like, can he just clean it up and just not get caught doing it? I really don't think that Hunter Biden is smoking much weed, personally. I really think that it's amphetamines. I think that it's cocaine. Maybe, but if he was getting off of that stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if he was like, well, this one's not so bad. It's also funnier than, maybe Joe's just not senile and old.

Maybe he's just super stoned all the time. That's actually a way funnier story. No, because if that was the case, then he would have actually descheduled it like he said he was going to do instead of just waving it off and it never happened. First thing he does in office is make it legal so that he can have it right there.

Right, I mean, the executive order is the way I would have rolled as president. Like, Hunter, you're free, baby. I think they're trying to plant it on Biden, and he just keeps leaving it in places. Right? So they're like, we got to get him out. There's no chance in 24. So they keep getting all these different drugs, hoping that Secret Service will find it on him.

But Biden's just not with it. So he just keeps leaving it places, like outside the Situation Room. And they're like, we really don't know who it belongs to, because it joe's you know hunter gets a coffee thing here right maybe you get joe your coffee and uh he'll wake up i just gotta say you know our coffee is the best coffee trust me appalachian nights the best coffee everyone agrees if joe had that coffee right now the country being a way better way better way better afghanistan would have been flawless maybe that's the commercial we do we have like you see joe biden but only from from behind and he's like stumbling and we show all the clips of him stumbling falling and then it's like people in suits being like quick quick and they pull the bag of casper coffee

and then you see just see biden stumble in and there's like a camera shaking and he grabs the coffee, sips it, and then all of a sudden stands up right and he's like, I'm ready, man. Fixes him. Fixes him right up. Perfect. Yeah. I think you should. Or we can do one where someone keeps, like Ian travels back in time and keeps pouring a glass of cast brew coffee for Joe right before these major moments. And then everything just goes right it's like preparing

for the afghan withdrawal and then ian's just like pouring the cup of coffee and he slides it out there saving the world one cup of casper at a time right before the debates you know uh in all seriousness seriousness though i don't really care for pot i'm not a fan of it i think it's very bad for people i think a lot of people are like ah it's no big deal it should be legal and all this stuff and i'm like well okay i'm fairly libertarian on stuff i don't care what you do with your life but i think weed is pretty bad for you i think to all the people i knew growing up growing up and you know the ones that were smoking pot all the time did not do nearly as well as the ones who did not and so you know whatever i think that's smoking pot all the time did not do nearly as well as the ones who did not. And so, you know, whatever.

I think that's why you say, actually, South Park said it the best. Randy Marsh said, son, it's not that it's going to kill you or do any things to you. It's that it makes you okay with being bored. And then when you're older, you're fine. You're not good at anything. So that's a reason why you shouldn't do it. He's like, okay, thanks, Dan. But that being said, it is not legally allowed in the White House. And there is a drug problem in the white house right now i i have questions you know

we talk about a two or three tier justice system come on man come on oh there's at least three tiers there's the broke and the not broke yeah right and then and then you can talk about the whether trump's on a different level than biden or whatever but yeah i'm not included in any of that uh and i i'm supposed to have white privilege yeah right so uh they'll throw my ass in jail quick i think it's a major problem like it's one thing to do drugs and know about it in the white house it's another thing to constantly leave them everywhere they're not very good i mean nixon didn't leave his shit all over the place yeah yeah at least you know at least clean up after yourself there's no cameras in the white house apparently

either the secret service said oh we couldn't figure out whose cocaine that was so i was surprised to hear that considering all the cameras i see in every federal building i've ever worked in i wasn't surprised to hear it it's the biden's the the secret service was like ben shapiro pointed this out that the secret service reportedly went to the gun shop where hunter bought his gun and that was illegally disposed of and tried to collect records seemingly to protect the biden's from criminal prosecution now i gotta tell you as a libertarian that's the most base thing i ever heard right hunter being charged with marijuana and a gun charge second amendment that that's the most base thing i ever heard right hunter being charged with marijuana and a gun charge second amendment that that's dope right i you know i gotta say i don't think hunter biden

should be charged for owning a weapon there's but there's there's an affair argument through due process you can't have your rights curtailed that's what prison literally is and if you are found to be a drug user and we've determined that to be like hey you know through due process we've determined you do not have this right i think there's questions about whether that should or should be laws or not that because someone smoked pot one time they can't have a gun anymore i don't think it's fair because uh hunter had done hard drugs he's ineligible because someone was convicted of a felony they get out now they can't get a gun some people have argued well that's due process and i'm like it's got to

be shorter than that your right to vote your right to keep in bare arms we shouldn't sentence you to life for it uh that being said hunter shouldn't be charged in my opinion for just buying a gun oh for no for no but disposing of it in a trash can outside of a school yeah okay you know maybe we got something there well he's obviously guilty of something if that's what you're doing because it was it was guns and it. It was his wife, I think. His wife did it. Oh, okay. Right.

Did she do it or did she go and get it? No, no. It was a trash collector who found it. Okay. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was Hunter's wife. Was it my wife? I don't know.

Was he ever married? I know he was sleeping with his brother's wife. Oh, God. We need to start talking. That need to start talking weird story it's just so gross like yeah yeah okay okay it's lover they say lover it was his uh it was his brother's ex he started hooking up with Haley or whatever name is yeah that's right it is you know like it's kind of weird though because like they have the same last name now because she married his brother. It's kind of a weird thing. All the greatest stuff when Hollywood ends up making movies about that family

will be about Hunter and have nothing to do with Joe at all. All the great entertainment will come out of Hunter. Joe's done nothing. No. He was perfect dad, apparently. Can we do a Game of Thrones show with the Bidens? Yes.

Oh my God, it's beautiful. It'd be compelling, you know, like you got an episode where Hunter is just like coked out of his mind and then it shows him like get up and then he like straightens his jacket and the bag falls on the ground and then like some tourist walks by

and sees it and goes, and then the Secret Service is like, uh-oh. They probably run like The Sopranos on HBO. No, or they make it like House of Cards with Joe Biden, but it just all keeps happening by accident. Nothing actually works out. People are picking up behind him. It all keeps happening on accident and accidentally working out.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like accidental House of Cards with Joe Biden. Joe Biden trips up the stairs and then drops some item which bounces and then a marble bounces and then hits a button causing a conveyor button. Saves the world. All these really weird things happen.

He's, like, he's sitting in the Situation Room, and they're like, quick, we need a response right now, Mr. President. He falls asleep, and then his face hits the keyboard, and it sends the perfect message. You know, it says yes, and they're like, yes, and then he averts the crisis, things like that. And they can get Kevin Spacey to play him, because he's a great guy, too.

Ew. Yeah, no, he'd be perfect for Biden, with all the sniffing, you know what I mean? I think he's done more than sniffing. Kevin Spacey's on trial right now in the UK. For more than sniffing. For very, very bad things. Very bad. He pulled his own version of the, I'm not a pervert, I'm Italian.

He had one where he's like, I'm a flirt. He had a case of horrible stuff. Innocent until proven guilty. But I'm not giving the guy. I'm Italian. He had one where he's like, I'm a flirt. He had accused of horrible stuff. Innocent until proven guilty. But I'm not giving the guy the benefit of the doubt. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. I'm a flirt. Yeah.

Also a rapist. Yes. He's like, well, after all the initial claims came out, I was like, look, I'm gay.

Yeah. And we're like, what the hell does that have to do with any of this well now it's probably a good defense how do you come out with it now like this month i mean it should have worked oh okay you're good right it should have worked even then he'll be like i'm q yeah i think maybe he'll maybe he'll work in these arguments where he's like he can show pride events and the behaviors that people do that are considered normal and say these things that i was doing were perfectly in line with what they all do all day every day at

these events nobody cares about it why am i all of a sudden being targeted for it you live in hell yes that might be an argument he goes i don't know but i i did hear that he was like crying or something yeah not sure that i care a little much I mean, I don't want to throw the guy a safety net or anything. But, I mean, I remember a time when I was snowboarding in Colorado, and if you pulled over on the side of the road to go to the bathroom and you got caught, you got a sex charge. You could get on the sex registry. And now, I mean, if you're cute, you can just go piss all over the whole country and you can get away with it it's just it's just not i i don't see where all of a

sudden everything is okay yeah so i find it confusing it's because all the stuff like it's like when we're talking about the pride flag everything is about being oppressed all these groups the one thing they have in common is they feel they're oppressed and that's why it's like it's these degenerate acts that we think of them as degenerate but then it's like we're not allowed to do them we don't have their right so we need to stand up for those people that don't have the rights to do all this gross behavior and that's what we're seeing and it's completely backwards clown world you know but it definitely is but that i mean what you point out about how there's so many people that have a perspective where they're basing everything on that they're the victim of something.

That's something that's from the Marxist playbook. The whole point is power dynamics. The whole point is the person with power is oppressing the person without power. All you have to be able to do is make a compelling argument that you feel oppressed and everybody is expected to consent to your lived experience, your worldview. And you can't have a society that works like that because then the incentive is to be oppressed and to tell everybody about it. And we see the results in society. People are afraid to speak their mind. People are afraid to say things that they believe. People are afraid.

And they're not afraid because they have outlandish ideas. They're afraid because the people with the outlandish ideas are also the ones that will make us stink and get people fired or bring you to the HR department or whatever. People that are unhappy with their lives and it's all because of that you know the teaching people to look at the world through the dynamic of oppressor and oppressed and to understand teaching that them that the position of oppressed is actually a position of power yeah so uh did you want to add a point to that i was

just going to say obama's campaign was yes we can and it's like no we can't because of this group or because of this thing you know and it's like 2008 fantastic uh plan for the next presidential can campaign no we can't no you can't we can't so so i wanted to go back to uh when you you someone super chatted us about aids in various populations considering we're talking about the flag so I looked it up and 7.7% of global HIV is gay men

7.7 substantially that was my point I mean I think in the US maybe the numbers are different but interestingly and this is from the UN website 10.3% among transgender persons so it's higher interestingly uh i could be reading this wrong it could could say that no right i think that's that's right yeah the higher prevalence

in these groups to this percentage i mean once you start to think about why trans people might be transmitting diseases i mean it's like well it's wounds and stuff they they mention um people who are injecting things have a higher prevalence for it so drug use or not i wouldn't judge hormone injections no you're if you're if the hormone yeah re i thought i said heroin reusing needles and things like that may result in it so in the 80s that was a big part no but i just looked it up uh and so perhaps in the u.s the numbers are different but that's why i say i don't think mostly is the correct term because it's actually you know what we actually see with hiv is in many other countries people of varying demographics and backgrounds especially a lot of rape victims too yeah so learn something new

every day way to just bring up a sad subject i suppose cheery. You know, people die. Let's wrap up this weekend with something silly. Politico. House GOP plans to hold long-teased UFO hearing. That's what it is about. Aliens, I think people deserve to know. Rep Tim Burchett, who was leading the effort, told Politico. Great. Chuck Schumer is apparently on board or something.

You know what I think every time I see these stories what did biden do this time yeah exactly uh heroin was found this time in the they need to make sure that the aliens are the because this happened last time i was on it was something about aliens it was like what the hell are they covering up they're gonna they're gonna find so much so much drugs that like within three weeks there's they're literally staging an alien invasion and like it's a video of biden shaking hands that within three weeks, they're literally staging an alien invasion. And it's a video of Biden shaking hands with a gray alien. And they're like, is it working? Yeah.

Excuse me. You good there? Yeah. Sorry about that. Oh, I thought you were going to say you got off. Yeah, I was off too. And then the cough made it slip my mind. You were talking about

uh aliens yeah okay so i was listening to uh a space today uh musk was on uh talking about ai the new ai company um and he was talking about the fact that he's like look man i haven't seen anything so all these people like that are government officials that are like oh looking at the stuff that the government said they got. Man, all these people better know. But the dude that most regularly looks at actual video of space, probably in the top 10 people that look at video of space, he's like, I have seen absolutely no evidence. Like, dead, none, none zero he says so i i don't know what the congress people think they saw or whatever but i i i do find the guy that actually watches video of space all the time

i find his opinion compelling as opposed to freaking chuck schumer i'd rather find out what the lady on the plane was actually looking at and the thing that wasn't real i want to know what she was actually looking at that's more interesting to me i want to figuring out what the government thinks about aliens have they found her yet they have not everyone's talking about it and some people were shaming us into caring they're like why do you care about this i'm like because it's the internet. Because I'm allowed to care. Well, my point here, I was like, what should I share with everyone on the plane? But my plane was the most boring thing ever.

She had pretty privilege, too. And she was white. So they haven't found her. We don't know. Maybe those are the aliens they're talking about that the government is talking about. But they took her back. That's possible. It's so funny that she was just like,

he is not real. That's what I'm talking about. They still haven't found that lady. She disappeared. How has no one figured out who the person was? There was progress made today, so a friend of a friend of a friend is like, she's alive and well. She went on a cruise. That's why she was

on the plane in the first place. Don't ambient and fly. We're making progress. We're going to figure out who this is in a day or two. a cruise that's why she was on the plane in the first place drunk don't ambient and fly there's we're making progress we're gonna figure who this is in a day or two i want to do we know what happened she was talking to some dude and i watched the full video all she was like that dude's not real it was yeah and she had to take an ambient and flow like not a good idea more than likely but what does that mean not real like is that it? Well, she was saying like he made some kind of remark because I believe that I heard a TikTok that someone was saying, I'm the guy.

So I don't know. I think that was fake. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't check it. But he was saying that like they were talking and he was, I forget where he said he was going, but somehow the conversation went to like conspiracy theory type stuff. And because she seemed like she was loaded, she just started thinking that he was like a lizard person or something.

So I don't know the details. I'm only relating what I've heard. The best was the one where it says it's the, it's the graphic of her pointing and says that NF over there is not real. And then it points over there and it's a picture of mark zuckerberg looking rather reptilian himself in the photo yeah i'm so sick of these ufo stories to be honest well it's because nobody buys them anymore at this point if aliens came down nobody would care they're like yeah right i'd like to get on board after this i can't do another biden administration yeah and not to mention like

with the technology we're seeing now with ai like nothing you watch on the internet feels real anymore anyways. Unless you actually saw it for yourself in person, would you actually believe that what you were looking at was real? Have you guys seen the new Beavis and Butthead? No. I'm gonna spoil it. Spoilers! Because it's relevant. You've been warned. So the, I think it's the last

episode of the new season that came out. It's a recurring theme in the new one is smart Beavis and smart butthead and they're from a parallel reality where they're super they're everyone super intelligent and so they are super intelligent but still stupid and so they're instructed to go to Earth Prime or whatever and kidnap someone for experimentation they land in this UFO kind of thing and then they convince that neighbor whatever his name is and

he's just completely like oh wow, wow, look at that. And he walks into the UFO, just completely oblivious. I kind of feel like that's what I imagine when you're like, at this point of an alien ship landing, people are like, oh, yeah, really? Sure. Yeah, nobody was fighting. There would be YouTubers, like Jake Paul was 10 years ago,

knocking each other out to try and get inside, to get the first clips of inside the alien spaceship it's actually kind of crazy to think about if a spaceship landed in our parking lot right now and aliens walked out and we filmed it nobody would believe it no we would literally post the video we would start i would live stream and i would be like guys this is like i'm streaming and they'd be like yeah okay nice try dude special effects green screen it's a fake live stream and i'd be like guys this is like i'm streaming and they'd be like yeah okay nice try dude special effects green screen it's a fake live stream it was pre-loaded pre-recorded pre-rendered

nobody would believe it no they wouldn't blame the the blair witch project when that came out what if the aliens that just came like there was i saw posts about that today like that was like 20 24 years ago today now we're right out in that area, right? So the aliens specifically ceded CGI technology to us so that we would have no way to warn anybody about what was happening. So it's like the ultimate boy that cried wolf. Give them the means to fake everything. They'll fake everything. And then when we invade, no one's going to buy it.

Brilliant plan. The best film director will get them to work with him on set so that he doesn't actually have to use the CGI budget to make the movie. I'm down for that too. Probably too. Are there any of the alien stories

that you find more compelling than others? No, it's all lies and stupid nonsense. And I'm insulted that they even bring it up. But it's also, it is one of those things now because you live in a 24 hour news cycle that never ends and if you are acutely aware of what's going on in the media, you look at all of it

as some type of distraction. Like, what is this taking me away from? Why are you pointing over here when I should be looking over there? Let's do this. Let's say, has anybody ever, how come no one talks about the hole in the center of the North Pole? Hollow Earth?

Oh, not Hollow Earth? I mean, look, why is the UFO and aliens the choice of conspiracy? Why don't we talk about, you know, I don't know, dinosaurs, super evolved, smart cave dinosaurs? Because television in the X-Files made it more palatable in the 90s, and it captured the public interest then, so it's the most easy to digest. Yeah, but every once in a while, you'll get Atlantis talk and some We Was Kang stuff. But it doesn't catch on in the same way. No, it doesn't have the same impact, because I think that space is probably something that everybody feels like they kind of have a connection with, because everyone, or at least people that don't live in in cities look up and they see stars and stuff like that and

most people can see the moon so it's like I feel like it's compelling to people whereas like Atlantis is like you got to be really in the down plus we just had that whole ocean gate thing nobody wants to get out of the final ocean anymore not for a while oh that's what happens down there there ain't no people

down there we were watching somebody downstairs was watching some flat earth video and i just groan listening to flat earth people because it's like this guy going like i don't have any definitive statements i just have theories round earth is a theory and flat earth is a theory and it's like you can't prove it and i'm just like oh they actually let me tell you they they really have come far on the whole proving it part but my favorite is when they go how come no one's allowed to go to antarctica and i'm like i know people who've gone there you can buy tickets it's where this and they go how come you can't fly over the north pole my dude i

literally did when i flew from new y to Hong Kong. I don't understand. They just make this stuff up. It's infuriating. And then they all just keep repeating it. Like nobody, like, I love this video where this guy does this thing where he's like, I'm going to prove that the earth is flat or whatever. And he's like, if the earth is round, then if you cut, if you take two boards and cut holes in them

and then shine a light through it, the camera should be able to pick up the light. If it's round, you won't be able to because the curvature of the earth, it'll be, you have to raise the camera up. And if it's flat, it should be perfectly even. And sure enough, he's like, wait a minute. Wait, wait, hold on there a minute. Like what's happening? I can't see the light.

It's like, raise it up. And he does. And he sees the light. He's like, oh, accidentally confirming these experiments about proving the earth is round. But the crazy thing to me is that people say insane things like you can't go to antarctica because they're like it's the firmament it's the boundary that surrounds the disc earth or whatever and i'm like dude you can literally go to antarctica it's expensive there's nothing there and so the average thing people do is they write you hit you get to take it on a cargo ship they know that metallica played there right that actually happened metallica is the only band that is

played on all seven conspiracy they think it's a conspiracy that you could buy a ticket as a regular tourist and they that you get a few hours on antarctica because what else you're gonna do gonna go die but there are people with more money and means that prepare expeditions and literally just go and explore Antarctica. I just, people will say a thing and then everyone just says, it's true, I believe it, and they just go along with it. I've heard that the reason that they don't have flights that go over the South Pole is because that part of the earth is very remote. Like if you go over the North pole, you like you're over Canada. You're, you know, there's all kinds of cities all in,

in the vicinity, but like the South pole, it's really remote. So they're just like, you know, have them go. There's no reason to look. The reason you'd fly over the North pole is because going from New York to

Hong Kong, it is faster to go straight point to point. The idea would be that you'd fly all the way over Russia or all the way over the Pacific to try and get to Hong Kong. Makes no sense. Just go right over because it's a sphere. That makes sense. The South Pole makes no sense because what are you going to do?

Fly from Chile and then loop around and go to like Australia? That makes no sense. The distances are far down there. Most of the population lives in the global north. You know, Asia and North America. Like, there's Africa and South America, but, like, most of the population on Earth is above the equator, you know?

We're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com to support our work directly and uh we will read these we do members only shows monday through thursday nothing today and uh just a quick reminder i i will we will have a guest host all next week seamus oh boy of freedom tunes um grateful

that he is able to do it because gotta go to the doctor but uh here's raymond g stanley jr in the super chat saying tim sir my guy yesterday holy moly what a feel-good moment that was watching the super chats roll in everyone deserves a shout out the viewers the staff the cast yourself forward the line so basically what happens is at the end of the show i'm like if you someone said give the super chats to tim ballard, I said, okay. And then we started seeing, you know, $10, $20 come in, and I'm like, you know what, that makes no sense. Like, I'll just double it.

And then, within a few minutes, the couple grand I thought I was going to be writing a check for turned into $24,000, and I was like, well, here we go. Wow, I didn't expect that, but it was really, really incredible to see everybody pitch in, and if you guys can, I can. I really do appreciate your support,

and I think it's cool that together we did this for Tim Ballard's new organization, which he just launched. So hopefully this $50,000 check will be a huge kick in the butt for the start of his organization to get it going quickly. I also saw something earlier that somebody said that the organization website he was listing was like he was saying the spear, like he was saying it wrong. The Spear Fund. Somebody bought it and then said, how can we give this to him to make sure that the one that he was mentioning on the show was the one that actually redirected

to the actual website. So that's an even better, it's another great example of everybody coming together. Fantastic. Spearfund.org redirect suicides coming soon. He just announced it, but I hope that uh together we each were able to put up uh 25k you the audience and and me and i gotta be honest the

money from me is basically still money from you guys as viewers and as members so i'm grateful to be able to help him get that going because man yesterday was something else. What an amazing conversation. Let's grab some more super chats. What do we have here? Rafty says, agreed, Raymond Stanley Jr. YouTube is blocking the gentle agreement I want to share with everyone, like a reminder of the link to the site for free tickets. Oh, you can't link it.

It's, what was the, it's angel. What is it, angel.com? What's the pay it forward link? me make sure angel studios angel.com slash pay dash it dash forward but i think you just go to angel doc angels angel.com you should be able to find it's probably easier to find it that way so not only do we do we do 50k i bought 750 theater tickets at 11 500 so that more people can go see this film i want to win this culture where man i want to build a parallel economy i want to see these studios succeed i want to see new movies come out and i want to help save kids it's a fantastic win-win-win it's a fantastic example like if you're looking for a white pill for how things

are coming i went to see the movie theater was. Everybody that we've talked to on our podcast, everyone that's super chatted talking about the movie has said that when they've gone to the theater, the theater was packed for them as well. So that is a fantastic sign.

Someone was saying that Jewel was talking about the movie. She was. Awesome. She knows the people. She knew the producers and she knew people involved with the production of the movie.

She's on Concord, which is my previous label, the label that I was was on before we oh right on yeah should hit her up have her come out that'd be really cool i actually was that's why i found out that she's on conquered i hit oh right on yo where who's her management i'm gonna see if i can reach out that'd be really cool i'll try she has a bunch of those big 90s hits right like who will save your soul great song yeah and like she and she's been working consistently so as much as like what happens in the music industry a lot of times people come out and they'll have whatever puts them on the map that gives them heat and then kind of like people get used to them there they build their fan base and like the people that

are just like into the one song kind of will go back to doing their thing or finding other stuff but they they have like a but she really built a fan base that's really kept her relevant for a long time. She's been working for ages. That'd be cool to talk to her about. Seth Essington says, why does Brett never wear his glasses on IRL? The lights. Too bright? Too bright in here.

Both the glasses and the beer came off. It's the end of the day. Eric Miller says, Tim, next week, why don't you call in through discord so you can still be part of the conversation perhaps what i can do is just hang out in the discord but uh the reality is i'm going to be literally in a hospital all week so uh here's the gist of it uh i have probably a labrum hip tear cartilage damage which reduces mobility and range of motion and causes pain when I'm extending my leg. And so if I were to pursue your typical course of treatment, what I was told by the local hospitals was we can consult you in two weeks. Okay, well, I can't, I can't skate. So

like, what am I doing? I can't exercise. Like, that's no good. We're currently working on building the facility, which includes skating and exercise, and i want to be able to do it after the consultation we'll perhaps schedule in a few days over the weekend of course so could be four or five days an mri okay and then from there we'll plan out in the next couple of months a procedure for which we can start to repair i'm like okay you know what man so there is a facility that uh is out of state it's one of the highest rated like sports injury clinics and they're like we do it all in a week you come in all the all the diagnostic work then we prepare then we wednesday we plan the treatment and then you should be done with everything by friday the the reality with the labrum tear treatments they do uh prp and stem

cells that's platelet platelet rich plasma but they can also do surgical repairs these only take like an hour but you have to go through like paperwork mri diagnosis so i'm like this this one place will do it all right away done done but it means i'm basically in the hospital going through the whole process that's it so there's no morning show i can't do irl but it beats randomly taking off one or two nights every week to go through this and then not being able to skate or exercise for six seven months because then the recovery process because they're saying recovery for it could be like a a month to two months and i will also add this it's so annoying because like i can run up and

on the stairs i can jump i can basically do literally everything except kickflip. I can't do it. Anything that requires a ninja kick of my left leg, it's just like there's no strength. And so what I'm generally told by the doctors is, if you don't take care of it now and you keep going, hip replacement later. I just got My shoulder replaced. It sucked. Right. So they're like, we can do something that's minimally invasive.

It's going to take a week of your time. It's done in an hour. Takes you a month and then you're good. Or you can ignore it, be in pain, not exercise. And then in a few years or so have to deal with a real serious invasive surgery. So it's just like, let's just do it. Let's just get it over with. I'm an old man.

So it has to be done. And with less exercise in the meantime, it actually makes the problem worse. The longer it goes, exactly. I'm still having like reoccurring knee issues. That's one of those things. Like when I was skating every single day, I was, I just built up enough strength that I was able to get through it without having too many problems. But since then, like even now, if I'm skating just three, four times a week, I notice it way more. It's not like I'm working manual labor. So it's like if I go out and try and skate at 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. when I'm done with work,

I feel as if I've been, you know, it feels as if I've been on my feet the whole day when that's not necessarily the case because I'm not building up the strength from skating every single day. Yeah, so anyway uh that means i'm out i'm out and uh i hate doing it it'll be like there's only one other one other time that an injury ended up resulting in me not being able to work and it was uh i got a root canal no uh no i

got a crown put on i got a crown put on uh i i had a root canal a long time ago and i had to get it fixed and that was three days of mike. I think I still remember that. That was before, that was like 2018 or something. I still remember the post about it because I was watching the show at the time. And it's just like, I hate that I was sick a week ago, and now it's like this thing happens. And I'm just like, you know, as my body begins to fall apart and I age and wither away, that's just the reality of it, right?

All right. 37. Oh, my God. You talk like you're of it, right? All right. 37. Oh, my God. You talk like you're 51. Yeah, no, I'm kidding. I'm mostly kidding. And it's because, like, outside of the hip thing, I don't notice anything about being 37 when I skate

except my hip started to hurt. And I'm like, there it is. That's literally just it. Knees are fine. Jump strength. Everything seems to be fine. Actually new tricks better tricks and then you know after 23 or so years of skating you get some damage in your cartilage it's not healing and now you're you go to the hospital all right the kl tanker says shamus should not get a coffee blend it should be hot

chocolate with lucky charms marshmallows perfect actually we had a really good idea for seamus's uh blend but i don't want to say anything just yet of course that'll that'll actually take some time but the uh the new ones are almost ready the mr bogus pumpkin spice experience and the k cups should be available very very soon so all right vasht says this is literally msm saying trump called neo-nazis very fine people i stand on principle f pence and f fake news voting vivek you know the the issue is what i get out of what mike pence said when he was like that's not my concern i think it's fair to say he was trying to say ukraine was not my concern but then he literally says why can't it be our concern yeah he says if

you think it can't be one of our one of the issues we care about then you're mistaken so where are we at with it halfway he didn't say screw american cities he didn't say all for ukraine and nothing else slavo ukrainia he said no look it you know ukraine isn't my concern america isn't and doing right by america but we can be leaders of the free world, too. And I'm like, so the truth is closer to the middle. Yeah. Some people may say, I don't care about Ukraine.

Put all your focus. Don't waste time. And his argument is, we can do both. We can help Ukraine and help America. I'm kind of like, I don't know about that, dude. The government here continually proves that they cannot do both. They can rarely do one. Andrew.

Just my biggest problem with the whole Ukraine thing, I said to a friend today, regardless of what the details are about the new issue, I still don't see the off-ramp. I don't see what gets us out of the confrontation with Russia yet. And until I do, I'm just... Well, we're just shipping over more weapons of mass destruction. I mean, stuff that have been banned.

Cluster munitions. And it's going to escalate. Because they had criticized Russia for doing the same thing. Now the U.S. and the West is doing it. Yeah. Now troops, reserve troops being sent to Europe? Come on. We've got...

You see both the Russians and Ukrainian soldiers don't want to be fighting this war you know what i'm looking forward to i just want to imagine this so uh sitting on the sidewalk sitting up against a brick wall that is nothing but rubble and the power lines have crashed down the sky is orange and uh there's there's just buildings collapsed everywhere and you're covered in dirt and you're shaking and then you see, this is the best part, a liberal walks by and you get to go, I told you so.

It'll be so worth it, won't it? I was telling someone at the castle that when we had all that smoke from the Canadian wildfires, I'm like, if we had a nuclear war, this is how it would be every day if we survived the blast. It would just be this haze we can't breathe be terrible awful andrew roland says if we elect vivek we republicans get bragging rights to elect the first native american president thus ticking off the left since they are obsessed with the first this and that

isn't vivek uh indian yeah i i think. But not Native American. No, no, no. Yeah, I think he's Indian country. That's right. I'll just say the party switch later and then they'll take credit for it. It won't matter. Yeah. What do we have here in the old super chat box? Ryan Ellis says politicians will use our tax dollars to supply guns and ammo to foreigners.

They will also use our tax dollars to pass legislation that bans Americans from owning guns guns and ammo the same guns they say are evil and have no place in society weapons of war yep yes we've armed every enemy we've ever had here's a here's a question for you andrew reinheimer says question for shannon how are your positions better than mark robinson oh that's a North Carolina. Well, it kind of depends on what we're talking about, whether it's the education, the economy, or even the social issues. Mark Robinson is fairly authoritarian, very hard to the right. There's some things that we agree on, like the abolishment of obamacare and you know trying to help some of the health care um but i'm also i have some differences on the abortion aspects to where i too would like to see a 12 to 16 week abortion um ban after but with the exception of medical conditions that that are there to save you know the mom's life and the baby's life where he's more he's more negative on a lot of those aspects.

So and he's a very hard right Republican. A lot of people are having a hard time stomaching a lot of his policies. But then one of my goals is to go after taxes and reduce the size of the government in North Carolina, which is going after the Department of Education, or not just education, but our education system there is horrendous. We get the North Carolina Education Lottery, which is really the only money that's going to our education system, yet we're 50th in the country. What state has the best education system in the country right now?

Does anybody know? No idea. If you were to model your education department after one, what would you be looking to do for it? That's actually an excellent question. I probably need to look at who's number one. Florida? Not in terms of like outside of the academic approach, but in terms of the parental rights

and cultural approach. Yeah. Rhonda Sanders did a pretty good job. I'm a big fan of the whole school choice and the parents being involved. And, you know, in North Carolina, we don't really have that. We're last, but yet the government is just, it's horrendous in education. So, I mean, I moved away from Louisiana because they had the worst education system when I was growing up, and I moved to North Carolina, and now we're the worst.

It just followed you. It just followed me around. All right, we'll grab this one. Chuck Taylor says, For Phil, what was it like working with Shannon Lucas? so just followed you it just followed me around all right we'll grab this one chuck taylor says for phil what was it like working with shannon lucas he's my all-time favorite love all the remains saw you guys at hob cleveland in 07 but not since oh wow sick well uh shannon's great um at the time you know we were we were both really young and uh so we could only kind of make it work for one record. But we've since talked, and I'm hoping that Shannon will do something for All That Remains in the future. Not like recording or anything, but we talked about getting him to do some drum playthroughs of stuff that he did on The Fall of Ideals.

And hopefully we can get him to do that. So keep your eyes out. Cheers. All right. J.R. says, Libertarians tend to suffer the no true Scotsman fallacy a lot. and uh hopefully we can get him to do that so keep your eyes out cheers all right jr says libertarians tend to suffer the no true scotsman fallacy a lot yeah yep bruno brunoski says tim why aren't you posting videos to twitter yet stop being a bonus hole i love you brother and he and he super chatted that four times i think that might have been an accident uh we actually are discussing that the challenge is i'm not a 20-minute segment would do as well on Twitter as it does on YouTube.

Because YouTube is a platform where you open the player and then work and listen. Twitter is, you're scrolling through. There is the potential now. I mean, Elon is doing an amazing job. Mad props. The picture-in-picture for videos is brilliant. That does open the door i think what we're looking at right now is uploading short clips but typically about a minute

long and then you know linking to a longer form thing or something like that i think for what twitter is shorter form video would do really well to ignite conversation and generate replies uh because if i put up a 20 minuteminute video on Twitter, someone's 10 minutes through, and then they say, oh, I'm going to comment on that. And then they reply, yeah, you said Trump did this, and he did that. That's what I think. Someone else is going to see that comment and be like,

I didn't hear that part. Like, where in the video is that part? Right? Because Twitter is very different. But, you know, to be completely honest, it's about experimenting. And I think one of the things we're looking at is potentially simulcasting to Twitter.

Mainly because, I'll'll say i know this the majority of people who follow me on twitter do not watch this show live they'll watch clips or something like that and that if we did put up our our show live 8 p.m on twitter i think we'd end up getting like 10 to 20 million more views than we already do and so i i think probably by the time i'm back i'm hoping that we've we figure out how we can do that effectively uh and the monetization is a huge element of it your talker's doing pretty good on twitter isn't he yeah and and uh he's been getting like he got what like 70 100 million views or whatever first one yeah and you know elon says how many impressions do you generate is how much you get paid you know the reality is tucker's generating a lot of ad impressions when he's getting 50 million views on a video so i i genuinely think uh it's hard to know for sure exactly what would happen if we went live on twitter i know a lot of people who follow me

on twitter do not watch live on youtube i know a lot of people really don't like youtube we don't want to be here but they are on twitter because they got unbanned and so i wonder i mean i've seen a lot of people do live streams on twitter to very little success yeah i wonder if we would have the same degree of success but to be fair i also have 1.7 million followers on twitter so maybe we would end up getting a million or so hits and that's really enough i mean to be completely honest so we'll see i think one thing that elon needs to do is he needs a grid format for videos and when it comes to live you need real time comments not just thread comments so chat like a similar to the chat function yep yep yep and uh i hope

it gets there but either way you know we're interested in in trying to uh uh multicast i wonder if you if you tweet while you're watching a video if they could just put a time stamp in the uh in the tweet yeah just to reference where they where you're watching a video if they could just put a time stamp in the uh in the tweet yeah just to reference where they where you said in the video but real-time chat matters yeah you know like when you re-watch these shows you can see the real-time chat so because the someone's comment goes along with right where the video is and like you can see that happen that's an interaction that matters like we when we do live like i'll interact actually like pretty extensively with people in the chat as well not just like I'll interact actually like pretty extensively with people

in the chat as well. Not just like the super chats, but like if somebody makes a reference point or I'll ask the chat for like, like verify on this right here. So if you're watching back and if you're watching the playthrough, that won't make sense unless you also follow the live chat replay along. So right on. Does the, is it possible, like, do you have a hard time seeing the way that like youtube shorts does that transition more to to viewership in a way i think youtube shorts drive subscribers

yeah and younger people tend to use them but uh it's crazy the amount of views we're getting on shorts is is is ridiculous but it's not worth any money though no it's it makes very very little in the way of money but a lot of it is like advertising you know and it gets people that might not normally engage with the content because if you're if people are watching are used to more long-form content especially like this show or our show is a two-hour podcast every day that's very different than somebody who's literally going and scrolling and looking for youtube shorts so sometimes you'll actually it's kind of interesting you'll get people that are more, uh, that disagree with you more because they're looking for different content and

they're not in the same, like in the same sphere of influence. So you get a lot of people that end up pushing back on the stuff you say, which is awesome. All right, let's grab a super chat. Arthur Gonzalez says, Tim,

here's how you prove the world is round. If it was flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge. Fair, fair. I, that's fair fair that's that's true compelling you know i love i was reading about this and uh i was reading this post from a flat earth who said gravity's not real what actually is happening is that the earth is accelerating infinitely upwards which creates every time a turtle appears underneath which is constantly

happening that's pushing the earth up because it's turtles all the way down. Well, no, it's just, you know, the image was, it's not flat. It's more of like a disc with like rocks underneath it, like hanging and then... Rushing through space.

And it's rushing through space, exponentially increasing in speed, which simulates gravity because... I love this. If it was going the same speed you would not experience gravity you'd you'd be in you know like stasis with plants so it has to be going faster i'm just like dude or gravity like israel i don't know man yeah they wasted their brain cells on that theory you know but they try justice skeptic says the

best thing you said tonight tim was about the potheads's true. I'll have to go back and play it later from a pothead. Well, right on. You know, I don't think people shouldn't be allowed to, but I just think it is. It is not good. Solon Woodall says,

the smell of cast brew coffee is one of the world's greatest inventions. Indeed. I'm going to say it again because every morning when we have, I've been having appalachian nights i just can't wrap my head around i'm like how did how is this so good we got a bunch of beans we we tried mixing different kinds i wanted a little darker roast

and like we hit this blend that was so good i'm just i'm not kidding i love that stuff i could just like drink like a gallon of it in the morning. We will grab some super chats here. We got sideways saying, man, I think Ian might've been right about Ron and Vivek switching spots. I don't always agree with him, but he rolled a 20 on that one for sure. Yeah, I think, I think maybe in a couple of weeks, a couple of months, Vivek's going to be number two. He's hitting it out of the park.

You know, and unfortunately for Ron, I think be number two he's hitting it out of the park you know and unfortunately for ron i think the issue is he's got great policy but the the the hatred towards him comes from a perceived disloyalty that he went against trump that he was saying he's he's not going to run and then all of a sudden it was like all in the cards the whole time i think people are pissed about that but also it's probably that, to a certain degree, nobody really thinks Vivek is going to win. Right? No. No, but what if Trump actually gets indicted for something?

Right? And then you lose that power base. Then all of a sudden you have an election in turmoil. He's already been indicted. Well, I mean, actually goes convicted. Yeah, that would be absolute chaos.'s other son says i've had hip issues for almost 30 years they eventually recruited my knees in their war against me get better soon yeah my knees seem to be pretty good um i should by all accounts have

legs that shake and i can barely stand because i've been skating for 23 years sprained and rolled like rolled my ankle on dozens upon dozens of times my knees should be they they make a disgusting sound when i bend them because you know just what i've been doing my whole life but uh no issues whatsoever there you know like i'm skating and uh for the skate nerds out there we we went out to film and i was like i'm gonna do a nollie flip no slide on the ledge which is you know i guess it's a decently good trick and i lock it in first try and slip out and what i encountered when trying that we were filming is that i can't extend my left leg enough when i snap when i pop the board and it's causing me problems and pain and i thought it would just go away i'm like i

must have strained it or something it did not it got worse and so i reached out to some pro athletes and i was just like what do you think and they were like oh bro dude whoa no i i know this i've heard this story before you like you need to call doctor and i was like okay and then they were just like 20 30 years ago you know they'd say to you they'd say well life's like life sucks uh take some ibuprofen and good luck but now we've got all these treatments and they're like no no get it in now we'll take care of it you'll be good new. That's the reality of the world, man. I got to go. And it won't be the first time.

It won't be. It actually is the first time, actually. I guess if you count the crown I got. But it won't be the last time. I'm only getting older. Nothing you can do about it. It'll happen. And c'est la vie.

But I do think the important component here is all of you have been begging that we get reserve hosts backup hosts another co-host who can take over the show and host it on in events i'm incapacitated so the show doesn't just cease to exist and in fact that's actually why phil's here and potentially in the future uh phil will be doing the same thing seamus is doing while we have seamus seamus can can handle it but uh even you know phil at some point and then um it's got to be more than just me in the long run so we've got morning show plans a view like show studio is at like i think maybe like 70 completion

construction still underway some hiccups along the way but uh it's it's common it just takes a really long time to build this all and then once the new facility is up we're going to be doing a morning show to compete with the view with sane women. It's going to be very fun. I'm excited about that, especially considering the ladies that you've been talking about having on there. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Yeah, it's people everyone knows and loves, people we've had on the show before that are moms that have a moderate to reasonable view of varying dispositions, conservative, liberal, libertarian. I say this with deep love for all of them.

They're all big mouth. It's going to be hilarious. It's going to be hilarious. I would love to. Hilarious. A fill in the morning show where you just yell at everyone in the morning. I mean, I probably can do that, but I would rather. To wake you up. I would rather hear the ladies because they're going to be, I'm telling you, it's going to be great.

But we're doing as much as we can. So we'll grab one more super chat here. What do we have? What's a good one? Oh, Liddy says, Tim, you should all shroom for one video during the day and in the wilderness. Ian was right. It's great. Well, I always tell people to consult their doctors.

There has been a tremendous breakthrough in research pertaining to PTSD and trauma and psilocybin and things like that. But that's for a doctor to decide. And it is fair to say, I believe, recreational, it's legal in some states. So make sure you're always abiding by the law and talk to a medical professional about what's right for you. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally at TimCast.

We may be posting clips from the show on that Twitter account. I think it's extremely likely within the next week or so. And smash the like button, subscribe to this channel. I am out all next week, but Se week or so. And smash the like button, subscribe to this channel. I am out all next week, but Seamus has you.

We have a bunch of really, really great guests. This is really abrupt and it was an opportunity to just try and get this hip thing done right away. So I really do appreciate everybody. As members at TimCast.com,

you have afforded me the ability to take a sick day. Something I had not experienced for a very long time. If I didn't work, I didn't make money, but you guys as members have given me that gift. I really do appreciate it. Shannon, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, I mean, thanks

for having me, and if anyone wants to read any policies or whatever, you can find out on ShannonBray.us, or really to kind of discuss anything. I'm fairly active on social media. So shannonbraync on Twitter. And I'm happy to chat.

Right on. Thanks for coming. I am Phil Labonte. I am philtheremains on Twitter. I am philtheremainsofficial on Instagram. The band is All That Remains. We're available on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, the old YouTube. next week i'm

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I press the buttons on Fridays, and it was a great show. It was a lot of fun. So thanks, guys. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. Also, I recommend checking out the Culture War episode from this morning at youtube.com slash timcast, debating the issue of is drag appropriate for children?

And I just want to address something for a lot of people. It's a mixed bag of comments. Some people are like, Tim, wow, you did a really great job letting this person speak and share all their ideas. We need to know what they're thinking. And other people being like, Tim, why didn't you push back and yell? The Culture War show has had its moments of me arguing with people. But we're really trying to have other people express their ideas and have that conversation. So what I'm hoping with the show is to get people to explain their ideas so that you

can hear them and then ask them questions and explore in a somewhat Socratic method what they're really thinking. And it does lead to contradictions. Some episodes will be better than others, but we're really trying to make sure that it's not just me arguing with someone. It is two people of different ideas discussing it. And so that was the plan. That being said, I will wrap it up here. Thank you

all so much for hanging out and you'll see Seamus next week. you