Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #820 Trump Expects ARREST In Connection To Jan 6 w/ Connor Tomlinson of The Lotus Eaters

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

Seamus, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Connor Tomlinson of The Lotus Eaters to discuss Trump announcing the DOJ will arrest him over January 6th, an Iowa judge striking down the state's ban on abortion, a US soldier fleeing to North Korea in attempt to avoid assault charges, & Joe Biden saying SCOTUS "got it wrong" after the court strikes down Biden's student loan forgiveness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We have a wonderful guest. We also have a number of very interesting stories here. Trump has announced that he fears he is going to be arrested for his supposed involvement in January 6th. Iowa is in the middle of a legal battle over abortion and euthanasia. Activists in the Netherlands has been convicted of sending over 1,600 suicide kits to different people across the country. All that and more tonight. But first, before we get into it, I want to ask you all to smash that like button and become members at TimCast.com. If you do, you will not only be supporting the show and the empire that we're attempting to build here,

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I want all of you to go check that out. Order a bag. Help us out with what we're doing here. Tonight, we are joined by Conor Tomlinson of the Lotus Eaters. Thank you so much for coming in. Thank you very much for inviting me, everyone. Yes, Conor Tomlinson, writer and host over at LotusEaters.com, spearheaded by the wonderful Carl Benjamin, also

frequent face on GB News, the English equivalent to Fox, essentially. You might want to come up on the mic a little bit. I'll move that closer. There we go. You can move it around with you, too. Fantastic. Thank you very much. Generally, just talk a lot of rubbish for a living. Nice. Hey, well, you're in good company.

Thank you very much. Yeah, you're joined by the rest of us. That's all we do professionally. That's all we do professionally and in our spare time yep it's uh 24 7 here uh i'm hannah claire brimlow i'm a writer from timcast.com i'm so glad that you're joining us tonight and i think it'll be a fun show i'm ian crossland i did triceps and shoulders today nice hardcore baby it bounced out the biceps and i guess uh something else i did yesterday uh i feel great i i feel uh hot and uh i did stitching adams podcast earlier today yeah how was that it was awesome those guys are fantastic yeah i love them uh so you can find that at stitching adam on youtube check it out after the show after the after show if you're coming to visit us at timcast.com

i'm gonna pass it over to serge dupria hey guys what's going on uh some stuff got changed in the settings last night so sounded weird let me know in the chat uh but we'll be good i'm serge.com again on twitter etc follow me argue with me take it away shamus all right getting into our first story tonight donald trump uh fears that he is going to be charged in connection with the January 6th riot at the Capitol. He released a statement on Truth Social where he said he was anticipating that he'd be investigated. We have a quote from him here. Deranged Jack Smith, the prosecutor with President Joe Biden's DOJ, a letter, again, it was Sunday night, stating that I am a target of the January 6th grand jury investigation and giving me a very

short four days to respond to the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and indictment. So that's massive. The former host of this show, Sir Timothy Kast, often has a two-word phrase that he references, especially in reference to the President of the United States having legal pressure on him, or a former president being arrested. You all know what that phrase is? I don't have any drink to hand, so are we allowed to answer that at this point? Yeah, no, no, no. Civil war, that is what he would say, and in honor of him, I must repeat those words because it's what he would have wanted. How do you guys feel about this? And also, as a Brit looking and seeing American culture and society in governmental operations, how does this look to you?

Well, we, as an American vassal state, a relationship which should have never been inverted, but there you go. Same controversial things to the chat already. It's obviously a political indictment. It's obvious that they're trying to just get him off of the ballot in whichever states which would bar him if he were indicted from being off because they're petrified of him winning a safe and secure election. One of the most egregious ones that we covered on our show was the E. Jean Carroll case where, and we can't say she was making it up

because that would be libelous but considering she might have gotten her story from a law and order episode this does not look very credulous um also the the whole documents thing i mean yeah okay he's probably stored them improperly judging by the photos that were given to the new york post but he does have declassification power joe Biden does the same thing. Obviously a partisan justice system. And so this is just another attempt in a long line of incredulous claims to try and scare him off. And frankly, as a Brit, I don't think our political establishment would like Donald Trump back in. I mean, the then Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, wrote a piece for The Times saying that he publicly endorsed joe biden while still in government um things like that just ridiculous but but trump's energy policy for example fantastic for

the uk uh before we decided to blow all our money on ukraine and demolish our energy security because and this was one of my former jobs i used to work in energy policy and trump from 2017 to 2019 made america not only the first uh energy independent for the first time since Nixon signed the mandate with expanding fracking and getting natural gas, but you guys, despite Donald Trump being a climate denier, he made the US lead the world in reducing their emissions. And so you're achieving

environmental goals whilst also making it so that you're insulated from geopolitical conflict. And of course the uniparty types that wanted to sell all of your strategic reserves to Sinopec couldn't have that and and so if trump were back the uk would would be absolutely benefiting but um yeah they're doing the best not to i think a lot of us would be benefiting from it one thing i find fascinating you mentioned climate change the fact that trump is a climate denier this is one of the most ridiculous phrases that you hear thrown around

politically a person can be totally accepting of every single thing that's even supposedly in the scientific consensus surrounding climate change. But if they're not an alarmist who says the world is going to end in 12 years, and then says that again in 12 years when the prophecy doesn't come true, then they're a total climate denier and we have to disregard everything they say. There's a sleight of hand that frequently occurs where they'll say something like 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are having some effect on global temperatures or climate and they will use that to suggest that 97 of climate scientists say that we have catastrophic climate change that is going to kill us in 10 years if we don't pass the green new deal it's it's ridiculous but it's also interesting to get back to the topic after i've pontificated on that to just consider the way trump is viewed in europe and i'm curious what the view of the

average english person is it doesn't surprise me that your establishment doesn't like him because he's very anti-establishment but like on the ground when you're just dealing with everyday average people what's the general feeling about him and also is this kind of thing talked about the legal scandals here uh january 6th whether it was an insurrection etc uh there talks about peripherally it depends on if a person watches mainstream news or not. If they watch the BBC, just because and I don't wish to disparage my own mother, she's lovely and she supports my career, but if you're

turning on the TV and you go on autopilot, you might see the 60-second news bulletin that says President Trump has been indicted again, or the January 6th committee has declared him guilty or whatever. Lots of people will find his rhetoric bombastic just because of british manners um it's kind of outside of our norm but i think like

pretty much all rhetoric is bombastic compared to british manners no well sort of actually to be fair i've seen lots of americans really enjoy our house of commons debates because we we do they're amazing deliberately insult each other at this batch box though it's still bread and circuses because they both agree on the same policies at all times. If you examine the Conservative and Labour parties, it's the Michael Malice phrase. Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit. Well, you know, both parties just flooring it right now. But not to wander off topic.

Lots of the British public, I think lots of them like Trump's character just because he's kind of funny and how he sticks it to the establishment. In the same way that they liked Nigel Farage and Brexit. Nigel Farage got about 4 million votes the last time he ran and didn't get a seat because of our electoral system. But lots of the British public were so fed up with the capital-B progressive unidirectional narrative that Tony Blair in the 1990s said was as inevitable as the changing of the seasons that they really just wanted to stick it to the establishment. And this is why they voted Boris eventually in 2019. Unfortunately, that didn't pan out very well

because he ended up being a progressive as well. But he won a stonking majority because people thought he was a bit like a British Trump, you know, a sort of foul-mouthed guy who was dragged backwards through Eton. He thought he'd be on their side. And so the perception of Trump is basically if you watch the mainstream news,

you're not going to like him because you think he's rude and bombastic and he over-diverses democracy. If not, you're going to think like him because you think he's rude and bombastic and he has a diverse democracy. If not, you're going to think of him similar to Brexit, of these people aren't acting in my interest, and I will take a stick of dynamite to tear it all asunder than another sort of polite, nodding establishment figure like Hamid Romney or something. I think so many Americans feel sort of similarly. They actually like Trump's energy. It is appealing to them.

He is a fresh, fresh air. That's why these campaigns to get him indicted on literally anything, to have the headline always be Trump charged, Trump investigated, Trump, you know, whatever, to make him look bad is so important because so much of the public, and I'm sure it's true across the ocean, just read the headline, right? They'll never go into the details of what's being said they just want to string enough words together to scare you away from inquiring further and that's sort of what's toxic about our news cycle um you know one of the most powerful moments of the campaign that this year for me has been uh trump on stage at town hall refuting everything that was brought against him was the etienne carroll case and it was hilarious i mean he's a comedian it's so funny

and also calm and logical and it's not you know this terrible uh ugly speech it's just like i own the plaza across the street why would any of this have happened well that's exactly right and so here's one of the things about donald trump that i think is often overlooked and one of the probably most unfair characterizations you'll see of him. Of course, he's going to be compared to a fascist because they compare everyone they don't like to a fascist, but his speeches are the most anti-fascistic style speeches you're ever going to hear. A fascist leader gets up in front of the people. He's extremely serious. He's extremely strong. It's not time for joking around. It's time for business. Trump just goes up there and he riffs and he's hilarious and everyone has a great time. And part of what was so beautiful about that

CNN town hall was the fact that this woman was speaking to him and literally positioning herself as the anti-fun person. This is a CNN town hall. This audience was not selected because they love Donald Trump. And even they were cracking up and having a great time because of his delivery and his performance. Now you can sit there and say, I don't want that in a leader. I don't want someone who cracks jokes. I don't want someone who has that kind of charisma. Sure.

Whatever. That's not what I'm trying to address here. But my point is the media will play clips of him and then criticize those. And even then they don't end up looking that great. Attempting to criticize him in person, on stage, when the people in the audience are on his side, is the worst possible optics. Because everyone's having a great time and laughing,

and CNN is there going, no, stop, stop having fun, you need to stop having fun, stop having fun right now. And they ended up cutting it early because of that. Caitlin Collins, is that who you're talking about? I believe so. She's an interesting person, and I don't want to ad hominem to add homonym on that girl too much because

but i just noticed i'm not i'm not ad homing her i'm just saying it was very yeah i'm about to so i'm just saying beforehand i don't want to but i'm going to i like her but i mean i like what she's doing i'm glad she's out there but like her smile she's got like i don't know if she got worked on in her face but the sides of her mouth are like up in a smile but everything about her face shows misery doesn't smile behind the eyes yeah there's lots of people like that in media yeah um it's a sort of i i don't want to psychoanalyze or step outside my room it's telltale sign of psychopathy yeah i was i was just going to say that i'm not going to speak to her condition specifically but that that is something you'll notice there's many such cases exactly and that's why it makes

sense that there are so many people in the media who have that kind of face. And that is Hillary Clinton's face, right? She's very much got that phony smile. the rules and conventions necessary to create good optics for oneself and be considered a conventional political leader who could be tenable to the American people and the establishment. But behind closed doors and behind the scenes, we all know she's unbearably corrupt. Donald Trump, on the other hand, follows none of the rules, none of the social conventions surrounding the way political leaders are supposed to speak and act in this country. And yet, relative to basically every establishment political leader in this country, and especially Hillary Clinton, he's squeaky clean. This is not something I would have said about him back in 2016, by the way. I wouldn't vouch for the guy at that time.

When the Russia stuff first came up, I was unsure if it was true or not. But as they continued to investigate, and it continued to become apparent that it was a nothing burger, and they spent years trying to nail him on anything they could with all of these random investigations and they found nothing, it became obvious that this guy was way cleaner than I ever thought he was to begin with. If I can just pick up on two things there. The first thing is how he presents himself optically is, I don't want to say it's a tactic, but it's something I've learned is very useful when you do mainstream television because it's very different to the sort of relaxed, long-form stuff that you guys do here and we do over at the Lotus Eaters.

And that is, most of the time, people just want a monologue in their little section box, and they want to say their piece, and they're not actually addressing you if you're on a debate panel with someone. They're just trying to win the audience over. What Trump does is he breaks the fourth wall. He shows that the emperor has no clothes. He routinely says, okay, this is how they're framing something. This is how they're trying to make me look bad when i've done that on air before if someone isn't addressing my point i'll just say to the audience oh um just just so you guys know you're not gonna answer my question that's it just so everyone can see you're just gonna dodge it and you're gonna come

up with your pre-scripted talking points and it shows the disingenuity of the establishment and that connects to the fact of and this is why they say certain things are beyond debate or they say certain things are threats to democracy or the uniparty agrees on both policies there's a german legal theorist that i know james lindsey is not a fan of um as he has had a go at me on twitter this week uh carl schmidt um now let me declare i disavow his mid-century german allegiances later on but before he joined the party that we will not name um he recognized that that things like liberalism and technology are de-politicizing forces and he defined political as the friend-enemy distinction. There is a group of people that are against your end-stated goals,

and there are a group of people that are for it, and even though you might have a common enemy at a time when the enemy is vanquished, are we rebuilding the same society? And the depoliticising force, it eliminates, it mires things in debate, and it says certain things are beyond debate, and so it stigmatizes certain perspectives. And actually, that smuggles in the existential threat. So that would be like the fall of the republic. So the wheels are still spinning, the oligarchs are still profiting,

and in the background, the forces of entropy are setting on your country and tearing it apart. And that's what I think people felt when they voted for Donald Trump. They felt that the establishment had ring-fenced off certain things, like the global offshoring of manufacturing to leave the country behind, the hollowing out of the social texture of the united states where we're all just squabbling over equality and forgetting about the capital c creator in the bill of rights and because those things would be on reproach it didn't not have human consequences and they saw this man as a re-politicizing force they're going to speak to us his friends against our enemies he is pointing

out the depoliticizing framing and he's hammering them on it yeah i think social media censorship was also a techno technological uh i don't know squishing of you know civil rights or at least like who who who has the right to tell me i can't say what i want on the internet just because it's uh owned by a private company like no no no it's it's i agree with you the technology is way beyond politics and it and it can take things like uh like a snowball down a hill so for good or evil i understand where you're for good or bad like whether or not it's good that we had someone come in and start saying he's a bad guy he's a bad guy i'm a good guy like it is polarizing but it's maybe people just craved it subconsciously because we've been in this like bubble of like

allowing these corporations to kind of take control yeah well no i think there's some truth in that and also say i think the primary reason why people want this friend enemy distinction is because in reality you do have friends and you do have enemies and there is such a thing as good and evil and for a very long time what evil has done is attempted to blur the lines between the two so that it could ultimately redefine them there's no such thing as good there's no such thing as bad it's all one thing and then once people are confused enough they start to tell you that the good things are bad and the bad things are good and speaking of that abortion is once again legal in iowa just two days after an abortion ban at six weeks was signed into law a judge has just struck down these restrictions and i really

should call them protections because they're protections of the unborn and abortion is now legal up to 20 weeks in iowa yeah i was a really interesting case because you're seeing this live battle play out i mean when governor kim reynolds went to sign this new legislation, which successfully passed the Republican held house after a special session, there was a judge saying, you know, I am actively in the middle of a challenge on this and I can't be flippant of me to rule on this without giving it consideration. So that law went into effect on Friday and he came out early this week and said, you know, actually, we can't go forward with this. We're going to revert back to our 20 week ban on abortion. The legislation in question is a six week ban. There are certain exceptions for rape, incest, fetal viability, if it's in question or if it couldn't survive outside the womb and mother's health. What I find interesting is you're seeing Iowa itself split

apart. And of course, for us, I was significant because it's an early primary state. What happens in Iowa, especially during election cycles, cycle is often viewed as a magnifying glass on the rest of the country. Yeah, no, I agree. And I think we're going to see a lot more of this. There's going to be a massive clash there. I'm curious to hear your perspective on this. Once again, as somebody coming over here from England, what are the laws and social conventions like surrounding abortion? One thing you hear all the time from American progressives is that we are just this backwards, far right, theocratic nation relative to the enlightened Europeans who just let anything that the progressives want happen.

But especially prior to Roee if you actually looked at abortion laws in europe you would find that many of them were actually more strict than the laws that you would have especially in blue states in the u.s i am sorry to rain on your parade a little bit um that's not the case and how it plays out in england so in oh no the english case is legally it's 24 weeks to spot other than if you can have a health example that can justify it going further and can i just interject to ask one question yes when you say health example so in the united states like like for example there are certain blue states where like up until the point of birth which is why i'm saying that it that's so much harsher than what you have in europe but

what i want to ask you about with this legal exception for the case of the life of the mother one thing that happens in the u.s is they will use things like depression or a poor mental health outcome to justify that is it the same it's exactly the same in england yeah we we have far fewer abortions in the united states um as a proportion of population as well but it still does happen and abortion in the uk is unfortunately one of those things that's just declared beyond reproach i was once once called um anti-english because i was against abortion because it's just been settled law for for how long anti-english huh yeah and i want english babies aborted yeah i know yeah radical position i suppose um one of the disturbing things that's happened and this has happened

um both because of the rising prominence in the polls of the labor party after their stinking defeat in 2019 they're now getting a bit more bold because they know they're probably going to win the next election anyway and after the unaids principles which i don't know if you guys know about no okay i'll explain that in a minute because it's a pretty dark rabbit hole um but we recently had a debate in parliament um among the mps this isn't tabled legislation yet but about a right to an abortion in a british bill of rights that is being drafted after brexit and stella creasy who is a labor mp she sits on the the women's council um she had gone from i think it was two years ago, bringing her infant into the House of Commons, even though they have daycare, which I'm against, but she could have put it in the creche in time.

She made a deliberate point to bring the baby in, went from that to arguing to no restrictions on abortion and a right to abortion codified within the British Bill of Rights in law. And so they're getting pretty bold for that. And one of the reasons I think this is the case is because the UN on International Women's Day this March put out their 21 AIDS principles to govern sexual health, drug law, things like that. And among these things were abortion up until the point of birth

has absolutely no restrictions for all member states. Downstream from that, it was the decriminalization of all drugs, including, who was the fellow from, was it Lance from the Surfs? Yeah, Lance was on there. Yeah, that's the UN's position now. You should be able to take drugs and suffer no penalties while you're pregnant. All gender-affirming care for all ages. And they also said that there are some cases

where children may be mature enough to consent. Disgusting. Yes. Disgusting. Yeah, and so this is something that is coming for most countries, probably in Europe as well. children may be mature enough to consent. Disgusting. Yes. Disgusting. Yeah. And so this is something that is coming for most countries, probably in Europe as well. That's the case in the UK. How does British law work?

Like if you're talking about like York, Northumberland, do they have their own sets of rights, like state rights? No, no, no. It's all centralized. It's just national to the country. Is that also like federal police everywhere? Like in- Yeah, yeah.

So we have the Met Police in London who operate from a slightly different commissioner i think each each area has commissioners but we can like central to the government they can set general policing law the police in england are mad as well i nearly got arrested last year outside conservative party conference um there was a video that that did did the rounds one that up happening was um i went outside to film a street preacher who was arguing with some young girls who were arguing in favor of abortion just outside the secure zone. And I was filming it and a local journalist came up to me and said, what do you think of this? And I went, I've just arrived on scene, what's even happening? And she said, this gentleman here is saying that the LGBTQ plus community are unnatural according to scripture. And I said, right, well, I haven't heard any of

this, but you know, I've just been speaking to the LGB Alliance guys and they separate sexuality and gender. So that's part of the debate you have to parcel out. And the TQ Plus might be harbinging something more insidious. And I said, have you heard of Gail Rubin? And before I finished my thought, an inspector who had been bussed in from Kent to Birmingham, which is Kent to south, Birmingham to north, that's where the conference was, ran up to me, waved his finger in my face. He had to go on his tiptoes because he's rather short. And he said to me me right um if you continue this conversation i'm warning you i will arrest you under the public order offense bill because

you have insulted this woman's sexuality because he overheard the word insidious not overheard the conversation properly and he just said do you understand what i'm saying and i when i try to clarify and ask questions he said this is not about questioning i'm telling you what's happening here i got surrounded by 10 other police officers arms folded riddled to tackle me and one guy had a shoulder mounted camera recording the entire thing and what they do in the UK is, if you are reported for an offence, but it's not a criminal offence, you'll be registered on the Non-Crime Hate Incident Registry, which means there's a black mark against your name that you never know exists, and if employers do a background check on you, even if you've been criminally charged, that will come up

and you will be turned down for jobs without ever knowing it. So I had to rely on a lovely gentleman by the name of Harry Miller. He used to work for Fair Cop, now Bad Law Project. And he got confirmation that I wasn't on that registry. We filed a complaint to the police, but it went nowhere because they protect their own. And so, yeah, England's undoubtedly a very progressive captured country. Can I ask you, do you feel like there's a cultural difference in the different regions?

Like Northern England has a different attitude towards these things than maybe the south because that's what i feel is at least the stereotype in america that we're very regionally divided uh you'll hear west coast versus you know conservative texas perhaps we have something called the red wall in england and that was created because when margaret thatcher was in power she decided to disband in industries that she thought were defunct, mainly things like coal mining. And they had been longstanding sources of community wealth

and generational prosperity for years, even though they weren't generating as much. And when she ripped that out, she did a lot of battle with the unions as well. And so that's made them more union-ish. And so they voted Labour as a part of their identity. She didn't really replace it with anything.

And so up north, there's a bit of north-south antagonism. We call them northern monkeys, they call us southern pufters, and we get along with a bit of solidarity against any other country that wants to try their luck. But they have resentment of the south, because they see politics as too centralised in the south, and they see it as it left them behind. And this was the big difference with Boris Johnson in 2019 as well, because the north overwhelmingly voted for Brexit,

thinking that we're sending too much money over to the european union it could be reinvested here and boris johnson said right if you guys lend me your vote i'll do that i'll do a program called leveling up which basically means you'll get new rail infrastructure you get new job opportunities we'll do regional investment and the northern has voted for him and then they voted obviously for boris because they they liked him on character you know he used to be the london mayor he got stuck on a zipline he'd wave little flags he was like mr bean you know people people thought he was fun um then covid hit lockdowns happened we were imprisoned in our home for multiple years and boris who professed to be a libertarian squandered all the money away on that and then started partying while we were all locked in

our homes and that all got leaked it was a big yeah i've heard about this the the league of political leaders partying in england what is the fallout from that ban uh boris johnson got scapegoated from it matt hancock who, who was the health secretary, who was having an affair with one of his aides at the time that was called CCTV. He lost his job. He really needed a social distance. Well, yeah. I mean, if anyone ever sees a photo of Matt Hancock, I feel deeply ashamed because he was doing better with his love life under lockdown than I do. And he is not a good looking bloke.

But he hasn't lost his place in the party. Like Boris Johnson's basically just been kicked out the Commons. His seat is up for re-election. One of the GB News hosts, Lawrence Fox, is currently running in that. So I wish him luck. But he really was the scapegoat. I mean, they said everything was his fault. And I feel like from my observational standpoint, the party sort of let him pay for their sins.

Yeah, take the fault. And all of the health executives that got all the calls wrong got knighthoods um gavin williamson he was the education secretary who repeatedly locked down schools but despite being campaigned not to um he resigned from his post for a particular reason that doesn't come to mind right now but he resigned in disgrace and then got a knighthood from it it's like they're just buying people's silence what's the what's the knighthood do uh it's just a title which confers upon you the sort of you have been endorsed by the regime do you get money for it or anything

are you really stipend no no i don't think you get can you like kick people off of their land or any of that crap no i don't think you get any titles but it's basically like a regime yeah um or and that's that's the funny thing as well uh boris kept trying to appoint his dad a member of the house of lords repeatedly and rishi sunak shut that down but and that's the funny thing as well, Boris kept trying to appoint his dad a member of the House of Lords, repeatedly, and Rishi Sunak shut that down. But that's absolutely to your point. Rishi Sunak is the Prime Minister right now. He wasn't elected.

Like, when Boris went, the members chose Liz Truss. Now, Liz Truss is dim as a two-watt bulb. She's not great, but she was too dumb to be on side of the global project. What we have is a bit of a split in the Conservative Party right now. We have the neocons. They both share goals on Ukraine, but for different reasons. The neocons are more Cold War. The global faction are more like

we want to line Black Rock's pockets. Liz Truss was firmly in the neocon camp, and she wanted to minorly cut taxes. Rishi Sunak was a tax and spend guy. He was the guy that printed all the money as the Chancellor during COVID. He did the equivalent to stimulus packages. This bankrupted the country, but they spun the narrative as to where it's only ukraine and

the pandemic it wasn't what she soon acts for the members voted for liz truss overwhelmingly liz truss gets in and she's the shortest serving prime minister in history because she wanted to do like a one percent tax cut and she announced it on a monday the bank of england uh the published the sort of stats on the guilt market on the friday and the news didn't hit till the monday and it coincided with the fact the bank of England realised they'd run out of money. So they used Liz Truss's policy as a scapegoat. And we know this because like Rishi Senak immediately started spending more money and this suddenly wasn't going to break the market.

How weird. And so they got their man in. They got him in by the back door, despite him being utterly implicit in the parties and the economic damage done under the pandemic. And so, unfortunately, the British political system's kind of just re just wreaked but you said that you think he'll get elected you think the british public has embraced him as well no no he'll lose he'll lose absolutely um who do you think's gonna win uh it'd be kirsten armor the labor party but the interesting thing and matt

goodwin is a pretty good academic um from my former university who's looked at this uh six in ten of people that voted for boris that includes those red wall people who traditionally voted labor flip to conservative they feel so disenfranchised they're just not voting because for the last 15 years we've voted consistently for lowered immigration last year under boris johnson it hit net 1.1 million plus illegals and the rate at which the illegal immigration is going up by 2024 we're going to have more people crossing the channel and filling up uk hotels than british men storm the beaches of normandy at d-day my goodness yeah this is bad um they've had all their promises broken and so they've just decided right we're not flipping our votes there's no alternatives so we're just not

voting and so labor are going to win by default even though they've been utterly incompetent yeah so so one thing i'd also like to ask you about is you know i can't imagine the british media is too different from american media with respect to the way the border issue is addressed or really not addressed. The question is always, are we being nice enough to people who entered our country illegally and not should we have borders? So I'm curious what some of the rhetoric surrounding that has been, differences, similarities, or if it's just kind of the same garbage that we get here. It's similar. You'd think it would be different because we're're an island so naturally we don't have any connecting borders with countries um it's often about our obligation to take in quote-unquote refugees but all of the people coming across are coming from france now i'd flee france too you know it's horrible um but loads of loads of

the so-called economic migrants i mean for quite a while last year it was all albanians now albania is not a country at war uh they voted in the socialist government so economic downturn is is there but they were being trafficked by people smuggling gangs and then they had an albania day celebration where they drove very flash cars around parliament square and draped winston churchill's flag statue in the albanian flag so it was almost like a display of colonialism exactly um so they've broken a deal recently they have albanian governments they've stopped coming we're still getting loads of people from the migrant camps in calais from afghanistan and north africa and and things like that and lots of the conversation this is mainly the labor party's policy it's going

to be um how do we create safe and legal routes for these people it's never they shouldn't be here in the first place because they don't have a legitimate asylum claim it's like right how do we take them out from the hotels which we're paying 7 million pounds a day to put them up in? And these are hotels that people would go to work to pay to stay in on holiday. How do we move from that to just dropping them in the economy? Because we want GDP line go up. That's it. Yeah. Well, speaking of illegal border crossings, a U.S. soldier crossed into North Korea willfully and without authorization so a United States soldier was in custody actually uh in South Korea in a prison he'd been held on assault

charges and was facing additional military discipline and he was escorted to the airport but instead of getting on his flight he basically ran. He joined a tour group with a group of civilians who were going near the border. He escaped that tour group. He ran into North Korea. And of course, this creates a massive diplomatic problem. You know, the United States and North Korea are not in contact with one another. But of course, the United States government is going to want to get this guy back. What could he have done that was so bad that he thought he would be better off in North Korea?

Maybe he thought every woman looked like Yeonmi Park and he thought he'd take his chances. Something like that. I just, I can't imagine. I mean, it's wild. It's insanely dangerous. Guy must not have been thinking. Was he drunk?

What's going on? I wonder now if North Korea is going to be like, it's great that you're here. Just tell us about your job. Oh, for sure. Let's hear what's going on. You know, they are being very mean to you, that American military. We don't like that at all.

Actually, Ian just raised a perfect point. Early 20s. I do think that might factor in because there's a lot of danger tourism. Like one of the guys that we work with in the lower city's office, Callum, went over to Afghanistan. So just nodding his head. He went over with Lord Miles. And I don't know if anyone knows, but there was an update from the Taliban today of Lord Miles is still being very politely, very securely, very friendly held by the Taliban. Yeah. So this might be a sort of danger tourism thing of where he's going.

Well, this looks like a crazy place nobody's been to. Maybe I'll try my luck. I mean, to that end, we should point out that Otto Wambier was the last high profile, at least. He's not the most recent American to have gone over, but he was a college student. He had gone over because he wanted to see the world. He wanted to be interesting. And apparently he stole a poster and got held for years and years and ended up dying. That's right.

Shortly after Trump negotiated his return. I think that he said he someone in his church group claimed that if he brought something back that they would give him a car something wild like that and yeah so the dude was sentenced to 10 years hard labor if i'm not mistaken that might not have been exactly but he ended up dying before we could get him back yeah they said it was botulism that killed him but then there are reports actually there was a north korean defected spy defect that had defected uh away from north korea that said he was killed on he was poisoned i mean he spent a long time in a coma according to north korea which they just never updated anyone

on i mean this is a complete tragedy it's a it's a very sad story i don't mean to make light of it but uh this idea that we would have young men who think oh well i'll just go to north korea i mean i don't think that was necessarily Otto's motivation. I think there's probably something, you know, very masculine and very real about wanting to see dangerous places. With this American soldier, I really think we have to question what is going on where you think running across the border to North Korea is your answer, right? Part of the issue is America being on the world stage now,

not having President Trump in office, not having the same strong but slightly strange relationship with little rocket man Kim Jong-un. How are you going to get him back? There's no bargaining power to get this guy and any of the secrets that he might know. That's a pretty precarious situation to be in.

Initially when this story broke, I thought what is so bad that North Korea is the answer, you know you may be able to live a nice life where north korea says thank you for all this information for as long as they're willing to tolerate you right i mean it's uh it's it's a very bizarre story i have never been in a position where i think i'd be better off in north korea north korea yeah it's actually pretty concerning on the macro scale like that an American soldier would defect to North Korea of all places.

That's really kind of freakish. That is very freakish. What kind of lack of faith you would have in your military to do that to North Korea? It hasn't before. It hasn't before. Has it?

Yeah, definitely. Is it people fleeing charges like this? This guy was going to get charged with assault? No, I don't think it's fleeing charges. It's just people that have left the military and crossed the border and then have been joined.

They use them for, I forget his name is Ken, something like that. They use them for propaganda purposes. For movies, right? I guess. Yeah. If there's anywhere you won't be extradited from, it's somewhere like North Korea. Yeah, very true. Yeah.

I don't know. You'd think people would cross that border more often since socialism works so well. You know, it's actually interesting. Maybe that's it. Maybe he's just so young that he was like, I don't like the American military anymore. And I really think socialism is it. So I'll just head on over. Well, I'm looking for places to be to be refugees, too, because I was talking to you guys about this off air.

The UK government at the moment is passing something called the online safety bill. They used to call it the online harms bill. So, you know, always the loving kittens and puppies act. And basically what it means is that it puts the UK government's arbitration body for television media that stipulates you have to be unbiased, unless you're left wing, which you can get away with it, in charge of every internet broadcast show. So if you guys were broadcasting from the UK, not just streaming in the UK, then you would have to have, I don't know, like Vorsch on all the time as a guest to balance it out. And it would just derail the conversation on whatever topics you were doing and and so like our show won't operate especially because as well

the possible new prime minister wants to criminalize misgendering so it's like am i going to be i don't know crashing on a couch in tennessee in like a year's time who knows i mean north korea is looking real sunny this time yeah i mean obviously they're not going to be the kind of political freedom you're looking for but i hear you england is very scary right now and this is something that a lot of progressives neglect to acknowledge very conveniently when they talk about the kind of draconian speech codes that they want to impose socially so they'll say things like well these social media companies might be censoring people but it's done privately and like political correctness or wokeism aren't real problems because it's all about just being

polite and being a different uh a um excuse me respectful and decent person of course in europe people are actually prosecuted for saying things that challenge the regime that are considered you know offensive that are harmful and you know quote unquote damaging to the lgbtq community it's easy to forget this as an american that in the western world there are people who are criminally charged for saying things that fly in the face of left-wing orthodoxy there are people who are criminally charged for saying things that fly in the face of left-wing orthodoxy there are people who are criminally charged for saying effectively men are men and women are women and i'm not going to call a man a woman or a woman a man but there are people who cheer this on right you'll get people who will say yes you should absolutely pass that bill because i don't want to hear these things and i don't want other people to hear these things i don't even know what you're

saying but i have heard are offensive. And that's what's the most disturbing to me, that we have a complete lack of regard to the fact that someone whose opinion is different than you might not be hateful, right? It's just different. We live in a culture that breeds fear, which begets compliance. And I find that to be so disturbing. You're allowed to hate. I mean, in the United States, you're allowed to hate.

It's totally cool. As long as you don't commit a crime, you can all you want i don't i don't like this hate crime crap i i don't like what is the how do you know what if they had hate in their hearts sorry but like since when did you murder someone out of love yeah even the crime of passion is hatred in the moment so it's it's complete nonsensical we've got two pieces of legislation in the uk that really screw us over. It's Section 127 of the Communications Act of 2003. That means that if you say anything that can be deemed, quote,

grossly offensive over a digital platform, as long as they find someone who's offended by it, or even in the case of Count Dankula, they couldn't, but the Scottish government prosecuted him anyway. You can be prosecuted for saying something that offends someone. And then we have the equalities act which creates a sort of hierarchy of protected characteristics and the frustrating thing is and and this is why and i don't wish to disparage um some of the turfs even though i find the the label radical feminist shenders sends a shiver up my spine it should yeah but they're the only good feminists in a lot of ways my well my friend mary harrington and the

reactionary feminists would would seem to dissent on that point but i don't want to get too derailed uh the the feminists are using the equality act legislation to fight the reason that they are being prosecuted under the equality act so they just got like gender critical beliefs added to the equality act but it's like you're just stacking more protected characteristics on top of each other so it's just going to be more absurd what you need to do is jettison the protected characteristics framework and have something akin to an american first amendment except we don't have a written constitution because that's kind of anathema to our country yeah you you mentioned this thing uh also about um the the court system and

and this this case if i'm not mistaken wasn't the uh opinion handed down that context didn't matter yes that's unbelievable yeah that you could have a governing legal authority a judge say that context doesn't matter he took it to pretty much every court that he could and they still wouldn't take it context matters in an example of that is like jaywalking if of course it's illegal but if there's a baby in the middle of the road and cars coming you run out in the street and grab the baby and take him to the sidewalk you violated the law no one's going to prosecute you for that context matters i don't think exactly even even illegal in the uk but but the wow maybe you're the land of the free

yeah yeah it's an every man for himself um the the interesting thing though is that we have abolished forgiveness and seamus will agree with me on this when we become a post-christian culturally we like to pretend we're a post-religious culture, but they're just a religion without a metaphysic. That's right. We now have a one-strike rule that brands you the Scarlet Letter forever. And the reason we do that as well is because we have met so many of our material needs that now we have

moved on to the recognition economy. This is why there's so many information sector jobs like social media or HR or marketing. And this is why there's an infinite number of fractionating pride flags people want to codify their personality type and demand that you affirm them because their unsettled screaming consciences their their anxieties them doing something behind closed doors that they know is kind of sordid they need you to affirm them exactly and and

anytime you don't it's a transgression on their identity and so it's akin to violence and that's that's the situation we've ended up in. No, that's exactly what it is, and I think you put it perfectly. They're screaming consciences. Effectively, when they see you criticize them, and in fact, not even necessarily just when they see you criticizing them, when they just see you living and acting like a normal person, having a normal life, and not engaged in the degenerate nonsense that they're engaged in, they are bothered by it because you in that moment are a proxy for their conscience. They see what they could be. So this idea that what I do behind closed doors doesn't matter.

Ah, yes, of course. Your bedroom door has magical properties such that it totally erases the consequences of your actions from your psyche. And when you go into the outside world, your behavior is not modified in the way you interact with the rest of us. Is it modified or effective by what you've done in there it's nonsense yeah you need to create that whatever whatever sort of thing you're doing as being the new societal standard so that you aren't tripping around it like a minefield in every conversation you have and then you need people to celebrate it so that it makes

you feel better about yourself because just being accepted not being a special little snowflake is not enough if you have crippling social anxiety yeah i think that's the important uh argument for religion i know there are criticisms of organized religion but having something larger than yourself means that you don't need to seek affirmation from a crowd of people or whoever's trendy right now whoever says well i know how you can feel like you're doing the right thing and we'll praise you for doing this like it's such a damaging way to live your life that i am surprised that i'm not surprised because our culture thrives on insecurity. It's funny to me that they can't look themselves in the face and see, oh, I can see that the cycle I'm trapped in.

I'm never good enough for this ideology that actually hates me and would be fine if I got destroyed because it betters their own agenda. Yeah. Well, and also, oh, sorry, i'll let you jump in a second because i want to hear what you said that thinking about that being people being used as pawns to forward a political agenda like if if uh what like someone that identifies as a trans female is is goes into a shooting rage and then is killed by the police it's like oh trans rights you know and it's like what do you mean that's not what this is about support They weren't given the support they needed. The justifications become insane because we are willing to defy logic to protect certain people if they fall into certain ideological classes. It's totally certain. You remember Seven Victims?

Yes. Yeah. No, what's that? So after the... Audrey Hale. That's exactly what I was just thinking about. Audrey Hale. Exactly. that's exactly what i was just thinking about exactly so in tennessee when those christian children were murdered by a person who identified as transgender because they identified as

transgender left-wingers who had invaded a capitol building i believe was the capitol they invaded in the state of tennessee as well they were saying that there were seven victims there because they considered the shooter to have been a victim and this is because like victimhood in their mind is merely a question of identity if you are in a victim class everything you do is a manifestation of your victimhood and if you're an oppressor class everything you do is a manifestation of your oppressiveness so of course this person was a victim they have to be a victim they're always going to be a victim and there's glory in being the victim right yes being well means that all of these to them yeah for them for them i wouldn't say for us uh for them being a victim means that somebody is going to champion you and give you special privileges and i have to be more understanding because

i couldn't possibly understand what you're going through and the hardships and this that and the other instead of a culture that that encourages you to know yourself well, to live by strong values, they're saying just completely fall apart and then someone else will tell you when you're okay or not. I think there's some value to equity. I'm all about equality over equity. You ever see that meme of the three people, the short guy, the medium-sized guy, and the tall guy trying to look over a fence and only the tall guy can see, but there's three boxes and each of them have one box so the tall guy can see the medium guy and the small guy can't see so or it's the other way to the medium guy and tall guy can see a small guy can't see so they say equity and they give the boxes of the tall guy to the small guy and now

the small guy can now they can all see but so i understand a little bit of that sometimes maybe man but not like an entire society built around kneecapping the best among us to propel those that can't i just to your example what they're saying is the tall guy should have to uh kneel down and not look at look not look past the fence at all he's gotten to watch this baseball game for too long he doesn't need it he can still see without the box so they take his box away and give it to someone else saying is they're saying that's not enough they should dig a hole but hold on but this this is also really important because a lot of people fail to recognize this even if you want to buy into this world where you would say like people need to be you have to be

given exactly uh what they need in order to be equal to other people how on earth do you have any idea what it is about a person that makes them unequal to other people how could you possibly say you have an answer to that question people are unbelievably complex and intricate the idea that you could just like rearrange material reality to the point where everyone's on an equal playing field is complete nonsense and in the united states all men are born created equal like that it's that's kind of implicit well we're not all the same because we left your country we're not all the same but we're looking for it's gone we didn't say brits are created equal to us no i prefer no, no. That's a hate crime. I prefer the St. Augustine thing of men are not born free and equal. They're born in, you're in an excrement.

We are born inextricably dependent from one another. That's true. And this is why, and to tie up the materialism versus metaphysics, what you're proximate to, what higher ideal you both serve but can never be too excessive in trying to embody but not circumventing. The reason Audrey Hale was lionized as a martyr to the trans cause is twofold and this is this is why i think marxism and liberalism are twin cheeks of the same materialistic backside marxism in all of the marxist literature you will see that because the superstructure the

the oppressive engineered uh inequities by capitalism is inescapable, then if you set up a revolution, all revolution is just self-defense. You'll see this in Engels, Marx, and Rosa Luxemburg, revolutionary communists of the Polish. The other side of that is that with liberalism, you're right. You can never actually quantify how much freedom someone has. If freedom, autonomy, maximum material benefits with minimal social reliance is the goal like rousseau would do right you can't itemize that all you can do is go on an eternal crusade of things which are seen as impediments to you being a fully autonomous

individual this is something called comprehensive liberalism claire chambers has written about it she's a total mad woman go down the rabbit hole um my colleague carl and stelios have a great video on it on the website and so this is why they're very similar both have a promethean ambition both seek to generate endless insatiable desires they use tech to do so this is why the recognition economy has come out of the material deficit economy all you can do to correct that measure is have humility in proximity to the highest possible love which um i have london would say is God. Beautiful. No, beautiful. And to also reference Augustine, he said that man has as many masters as he does vices. And so this idea of freedom,

as we generally conceive of it, merely being a product of the ability to have multiple choices without reference to your internal discipline is totally nonsensical. And speaking of that kind of worldview uh and what it leads to we have a story here of a pro-euthanasia activist who's been convicted in the netherlands of sending suicide kits to 1600 people this is the inevitable outgrowth of materialism the belief that freedom is simply a product of making multiple choices and has nothing to do with what the right or wrong choice is as well as a person's virtuous predispositions or lack

thereof, or what man is meant to do and whether he's free to flourish in the role that he was built for rather than the one he has chosen for himself irrationally. The activist, Alex S., was selling kits to people who didn't qualify for the legal assisted suicide program and according to the court the activist convinced people that the drugs were painless but in reality they suffered quote severe distress and panic which led to a gruesome death but it actually gets even worse than that in April the Netherlands announced plans to expand the assisted suicide and euthanasia program to allow children ages 1 to 12 year olds to be eligible. Yeah. What?

A 1 year old can opt for suicide medically? He can't. His parents can. What? That's murder. You can't. A 1 year old cannot opt in to get themselves killed. That's a parent doing it to the kid.

Yeah. Yeah. It's sickening. it's completely sickening this is this is what my friend mary harrington has referred to as the uh this war on emargo day it's the idea that the human body is sacred in any way state shape or form and you can't just exit it or mutilate it at any time and what we're seeing in relation to materialism is it's either the body is a prison um not everything is gnosticism people you know get that get that out but but the the the trans identity is a form of gnosticism where your body is a fleshy prison and you have to approximate it

to feel you truly are inside that's right is true so there's no sacredness about the body you were you were given you just play mix and match with the appendages until you feel okay or there's the attitude that your body is kind of a vessel of gratification it's just it's just the means by which you feel around in a purely sensory world and so when you stop being capable of that sensation when you stop being able to be pleasure seeking because you have a terminal illness or you're old or you're just depressed and you don't feel anything anymore then they say well it's perfectly logically consistent to exit and their only complaint is that you are suffering not that you are achieving the ultimate suffering which is just the extinguishing of your conscience exactly well

okay that's a very important point and i would frame it very similarly once you have made the meaning of life pleasure once a person is no longer able to or is the very least less capable of experiencing subjectively pleasurable states then their life no longer has meaning if the purpose of life of the meaning of life goes deeper than your own particular emotions about the situation that you're in then no amount of suffering actually justifies ending the life of a human being directly and intentionally yeah this is classic solzhenitsyn existentialism this is and if you ever want to sort of escape um and i've suffered with depression all throughout my life i'm not going to minimize it but if you ever want to get perspective read the accounts I've suffered with depression all throughout my life, I'm not going to minimize it. But if you ever want to get perspective, read the accounts of the people that have suffered the most and that you will probably never suffer.

And they have come through it with sincere metaphysical convictions and faith in humanity. Viktor Frankl wrote about this. Solzhenitsyn's written about this. If they can survive a gulag or a concentration camp, you can survive not being able to access Pornhub in your state because Utah's blocked it. That's just it. And Utah blocked it because kids weren't able to look at it what an important detail in that story and but before before i pass to you and i just want to mention here uh with what you just said um i i agree with you that when you look at people who have experienced the most tremendous suffering they they tend to be deferential to a higher power they believe in morality they believe in meaning and of course that's because experience is an

expensive classroom and those who've paid the greatest price often have the greatest knowledge but also because i believe those situations actually select for people who have a deeper view of what existence is that goes beyond pleasure because if you don't view that to begin with or you don't come to believe that at some point through that experience you're just gonna it's a crucible for spiritual formation yeah well being in the gym man with a personal trainer being like you're 12 more 12 more reps now we're going up weight now we're going 25 pounds that's like hell it's like being in a kind of personal hell for a moment just a moment but after coming out of it it's like i don't want to kill myself anymore i've already been through it man god is good like this life is fucking great that's a good way of putting it is why msnbc came out the other day

and said lifting weights is right wing because you're an independent thinker the ones you once you master your own body are not contingent on other people's stimulants or or pleasures to try and sedate that screaming conscience then then the the universal homogenous state can't have you in their clutches shoe man yeah i gotta get way more right wing i'll have to hit the gym with you but one point that that you mentioned here is it's like your own personal hell there's something here there's actually something that touches an important part no no i know but but this this touches on an important part of like the christian tradition which is dying to yourself it's like to describe it as hell in some senses describe it as like a small death like you are willfully embracing a form of death but

what is the outcome of that a resurrection your muscles get stronger you actually strengthen yourself because you willfully embraced that small death literally tearing your muscles bleeding on the inside so that it can Forge and regrow stronger and bigger yeah that small death has like led to a small resurrection in a sense and I think I think we see that with with uh all productive things that are painful right if if you really buckle down and do your job even though it's difficult there's like a small death you feel oh it's so beautiful outside i don't want to work right now but then when all is said and done and you've created this it's like this moment of resurrection you've created something

beautiful because you willingly embrace that yeah i think there's a resistance to accepting that glory comes through struggle right yeah Glory is through a lot of things and there's a fear of hardship, right? So when we talk about censoring people's language or saying, you know, you have to call me by these things, you need to make me feel good about myself. We are encouraging a culture that is avoiding challenge and avoiding personal growth through challenge.

And I think that is what's most devastating to people today is that you can never feel true satisfaction without really feeling you've achieved something. And sometimes achievement comes at a cost. I won't, I mean, I agree with you. I think you can't minimize, you know, how crippling depression, anxiety, some of the emotional states that people go through can be. On the other hand, working through your struggle is ultimately how you become a better and stronger version of yourself. And it gives you a perspective that you are, I personally feel like, meant to have, right? You want to have insight into the world that makes you more in touch with the human condition.

I'm thinking about meditation. That's another struggle because it's easy to think. It's easy to get distracted and think about the colors you see or the noise you're hearing, but to have no thoughts, that's a challenge and it is hard. That's why prayer is a lot easier because all you do is externalize your thoughts and you give it up to the big man upstairs and he can walk you through it. Rather than try and force yourself to be completely blind, you just vent your conscience out and you actually have a dialogue with someone that can help you out. And there's also, I would say there's also a discipline and difficulty to prayer, which is kind of touching on on part of what you're saying which is even though I don't like recommend the form of meditation you're describing I I agree that there's something very difficult about not just allowing your internal monologue

to drag you everywhere without taking a moment to reflect about what you're thinking about what you're orienting yourself towards it's it's really important uh I believe to develop a prayer life in part to escape that just constantly being led around by that almost nagging, that like very ADHD jump from subject to subject to subject just based on whatever enters consciousness. You know why I don't pray by saying things in my thoughts? I just have no thoughts is because I feel like it's polarizing to choose this is what it's going to be. Like with no thought, there's no, I'm not what it's going to be like with no thought. There's no I'm not deciding it's got to be this now. I get concerned about polarizing my behavior in my mind. That's interesting.

So so here's what I would say. When you're allowing yourself and we all do this, right? And this is what we're trying to escape in some sense when we allow ourselves to just be dragged around from thought to thought. In that instance, we're actually not choosing what we're thinking about, right? We're just being led. And I think to jump to another state where you're trying to suppress all thought i would say you're also just not choosing a particular thought and so that's why i would say like prayer is actually um the opposite of just letting yourself being

led around and it does require choice but but um your thoughts being dragged everywhere doesn't require a choice right you're just kind of letting it happen but it gets to a point where you're not suppressing the thoughts anymore they just stop coming into your head and you'll be like 40 minutes ago you'd be like five seconds and then you realize you're thinking you're like okay let it go no thought and then like some time goes by and you're like oh oh there's a oh i was thinking for a few minutes or a few seconds okay let it go and then all of a sudden it's like longer eight seconds then it's like 20 seconds you have no thought then all of a sudden you can do it for five minutes and you're like whoa then like all your emotions they're back to baseline yeah well it's it's

interesting we'll have to discuss it because again i've made my thoughts about like that form of meditation clear but it'd be a cool discussion for the after show too i think to get into some of that stuff uh and then just with reference to what uh hannah claire was saying about making yourself better i just want to mention this before we move on from the topic. You made this point, becoming a stronger, better version of yourself. If you believe that there is a telos, that there is a purpose, that there is a reason you are here, then achieving that purpose is what you may have to embrace in order to reach that fulfillment in order to fulfill your purpose. And you can get pleasure from that. Of course, naturally, there's a natural pleasure that comes from doing things the right way. And when you develop virtue, there's a pleasure that a person can get from doing something virtuous. That said, I think the modern conceptualization, which is just feel good about things, of course,

can't contend with that. And what ends up happening is your mission is not necessarily to become a better version of yourself. It's just to maximize positive experiences and minimize displeasurable experiences. And so what that results in is basically a philosophy that I don't think can argue against the best possible state to be in is a simulation where everything goes well for you and not living in the real world doing difficult but important things where you get whatever you want because it's completely about self-indulgence and in that you are never able to experience true joy or happiness because

it's all about momentary immediate pleasure right I mean some of the challenges that we're talking about like when you bring up working out is that long term, you're going to feel the benefits of it. It's not that every single day when you're lifting the weights is super fun, right? You're exhausted, you're tired. It's that ultimately these things are worth it and that you stay on the path because you know you're achieving something great through the sacrifice and struggle that it takes. I do like, yesterday I was playing Drops of Jupiter by Train and I start crying, man. I think about my mom and he's singing about his mom in that song. And she died, I guess, and her soul's out there.

And it comes, it's just like, but then I feel like it's like, yeah, it hurts and it's painful. It's sad, but then I'm normal. Like, it's okay. It's okay. You don't have to put Xanax in your brain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, that's an interesting point too. Like trying to get through things without medicating yourself. But also not to get addicted to the pain because it can become like the crying. I was like, I want to, I couldn't keep doing it. I'm like, oh, I feel and I want, I'm like, no, just breathe and kind of let it out. You know, it comes, you don't, you don't force it onto yourself, just happens. Yeah. More difficult is not necessarily better.

I agree with you, right? Like you, you can't just make it about embracing something difficult because sometimes something which is more difficult is not necessarily the best path for you yeah don't master yourself live as the ideal instead yeah that's the way to go yeah yeah that's a fair point don't martyr yourself live as the ideal instead oh yeah dude well we were we were just talking a moment ago uh about jumping from thought to thought uh verse you know trying to push all the thoughts out of your head our next story involves a man who i'm not sure which category to place him in there is this someone

who doesn't have thoughts is this someone who's led around from thought to thought i am not sure but he is our president the one and only joe biden and his administration says surprise surprise they think that scotus got it wrong after striking down a student loan forgiveness of course he does i mean it's ridiculous if you want to sit here and make the argument that student loan forgiveness is a good program i'll disagree with you for some reasons i've laid out last night in which i'll summarize again in a moment here but ultimately the idea that it is an infringement of people's rights, that the Supreme Court is failing to stick to constitutional ideals by not allowing Joe Biden to redistribute wealth from people who didn't receive higher

education or who paid off their loans to people who did receive higher education and or didn't pay off their loans, or I should say and didn't pay off their loans, not and or, is totally insane. So I rattled off some statistics last night. People who graduate with a PhD earn something like $99,000 a year as their median income and their unemployment rate is about 1.1%. People with a master's will earn a median income of about 78,000. Their, their, uh, unemployment rate is slightly higher, but nothing too terrible. Then when you go down to people who only have a high school education, their median income is about $38,000 a year, and they have a 4 point something percent unemployment rate. So the idea that people who haven't received higher education, who are making significantly

less money and have a higher unemployment rate should have their wealth redistributed in order to pay for people who did receive a higher education and who are now in the workforce with a higher earning potential despite taking anywhere between four and eight years out of the workforce in order to attain that degree and in many cases paid for some of their living expenses rather than just their education with those loans uh i think it's just totally insane it's totally unfair uh aside from being unconstitutional i gotta argue that that should be the state of affairs. I got to ask, because I talked to my mother about this a couple days ago, and I was like, I'm not comfortable.

She's like, oh, yeah, they're starting to stop him from... But Ian, you need... And I'm like, I'm not comfortable getting other people to tax money to pay off my debt. And she's like, no, it's only the billionaires' taxes that are getting used. Not true. So this is the media. I mean, she watches MSNBC. I guess they're just kind of subtly not telling you the guys that make 16 bucks an hour at mcdonald's are gonna have to pay

your taxes to for me to get my student loans paid i mean i'm fortunately i'm not in that bracket now it's um well so what happens i got an email from the department he's it's not biden he's not even doing it with his mouth he's doing with the department of education i got an email from them that said we don't we think the supreme court got it wrong this is like four days ago or something so we're gonna do it anyway but're going to do it with people that are making up to $65,000 a year or something like that. And if you don't want it, opt out, but otherwise, we're just going to do it. Well, I think part of this for Biden is it's a make or break issue for him because he campaigned so hard on, I will get your student loans forgiven, right? And so now

we're getting desperate. We're getting closer to election season and he needs to make progress on this issue. Otherwise, a lot of his young voter base is going to say, but you said you'd pay off my debt and you didn't. I mean, I have never understood how Joe Biden is a viable candidate for Democrats anyways, but it's important to note how big of an issue this was. This was a deciding factor for young voters, understandably so because i don't i don't disagree with shamus on the other hand the reality is if you have tons of student loan debt because you were told hey go uh take out a loan pay for your education and it'll all work out and you are feeling the consequences of that i would also be looking

for a way to get out of this right i would also be looking for help. And Joe Biden is failing on that front. Not that he shouldn't, but you can see where it becomes. One underlying theme of all of our conversation tonight has been the fostering of dependency by being godless, materially contingent. And now the reason they're pushing for this, and I think we've got a model over in the UK, is because university attendance in the UK is much higher. Because Tony Blair wanted, I believe it was about 50% of all, at least of all uh young people in the uk to go to university then the cameron years pushed it up so they made you stay in higher education until 18 so they could fudge the unemployment numbers and also because student loans are a lot less and they're taxpayer guaranteed so they've just jumped them up significantly i think they've doubled them but i paid £9,000 a year plus a maintenance loan that's means-adjusted,

so at about £4,000. So I've left with about £40,000 in debt in total. And we pay that back over the course of about 30 years. So we won't pay it back until we're about 50. And what they want to do is get you into the institution which engenders a certain kind of managerial mindset. It's a self-propagating managerial class, like James Burnham would have talked about. And then you're sort of imbibed in sectionality

and you become the perfect kind of compliant corporate drone who says whatever they can to get ahead. And what Biden wants here is to create a dependent class, both they want to vote him in so they can alleviate the debt, and if you have a lot of debt, then of course you want the big government to come and manage the economy to get rid of it, and also self-propagate more people going to universities so they're not as scared about racking up all this debt.

So then they're more compliant with Zedix in the future. It's a genius self-propagation strategy. No wonder the Democrats want to push it. I think it is also interesting, this idea of getting people massively in debt to the point where they don't have the kind of economic leverage that they ordinarily would without also giving them some kind of property to show for it. I mean, this is absolutely massive. This is one of the reasons I'm somewhat sympathetic to the people who say they want student loans to be forgiven. There's actually a few reasons. Ultimately, I don't agree with it for the reasons I laid out earlier. You make way more money with the degree. People are making less money, shouldn't have to

pay your degree off. You still generally end up making way more over the course of your life than the degree ends up costing but that said i i believe in property ownership i believe that one of the best economic strategies is to create the conditions for the largest amount of people to have property as is possible so that everyone has a stake in the system everyone does actually have a a material stake in the future as well I think when you're a nation of renters it becomes a lot more difficult to get people to care about a neighborhood or a region and this is also part of why it's so insidious that organizations like Blackrock and a lot of these investor buyers have been swooping in and getting all of the real estate in this country and driving prices up for residential owners and so I'm I'm sympathetic the argument, even though I don't agree with student loan

forgiveness, that we have effectively created a class of people who have the worst of both worlds. They're heavily in debt, so they lack leverage, but they also don't, along with that debt, have the leverage that comes along with property ownership. It's even worse in the UK. So in 1997, before Tony Blair did education and immigration reforms house prices were three times median income now it's 11 oh my goodness yep we only build 200 000 homes a year we have net intake of 1.1 million immigrants plus the people they're battery farming in these hotels migration watch uk has estimated that because and this is the office for national statistics that have found that migration is the leading cause of population increase in the uk because

we've got a sub replacement birth rateacement birth rate, as do most places. Most Western countries, most of all. And higher education is a cause of that. I spoke to Stephen Shaw, a documentary filmmaker, and he said that this is one of the main reasons why people are delaying having kids. It's because they're spending up until their mid-20s, their peak fertility years, in universities. But Migration Watch found that by 2046,

the rate of population increase that the UK is experiencing will have to have 15 to 18 new cities the size of Birmingham to accommodate that. We can't build it. And the reason they're not building it, and this is the final point, is that 25% of the Conservative Party's donors are property developers. So they have the perverse incentive to both keep prices high enough that they're making a return on investment, but then keep a steady stream of inflated demand. So they keep building these terrible new houses that are unfit for living and are basically just knocked up new builds

where the garden fences are like that. So it's the worst of both worlds in my country. Yeah, I'd also like to mention one more thing, which is that Biden's student loan repayment changes could cost around $475 billion. We've been talking a lot about the negative economic impact in an abstract, though valid way. However, these are the material figures 475 billion dollars that's that's the federal just print that in an afternoon it's fine guys i love the consequences it never has right

well when is printing way too much money ever gone badly for a country oh yeah i mean they just act like money doesn't mean anything these numbers numbers are ridiculous. And I think that's partially because, in my opinion, the Democratic Party relies on fixing things in the immediate short term to maintain power, and they just kick the problems down the line. In fact, they're more likely to blame someone else, right? Yeah. I think it's a broken system,

and I am sad for the people who have to deal with the consequences, but I don't think that student loan debt forgiveness is the answer the way that it's being proposed. And part of that for me is it all goes back to a huge cultural shift. I mean, you might be able to speak to this more than I can, but our education system demands that you make it through 12th grade. And then when you go to 12th grade, you're supposed to leave and go to college. You're supposed to go for a degree. And increasingly they say, well, if you really want to make more money,

you should get a master's degree. So that's an additional one to two years, right? And well, let's not forget about the medical professions and going to law school. So you're in school forever creating intense debt and also being reliant on a system. I think that the American education system needs a complete overhaul

that encourages independent thought because it should encourage self-dependence and self-reliance. I think that is ultimately what I don't like. And it's why it's important you have these conversations about, well, if you don't go to college, what are your options? And in America, we desperately need people to go into the trades, which you can have a successful living without taking on debt, and in some ways have a more free life, right? If you are shackled to student debt, you have to be conscious of that in how you financially plan for your life, even though you have this high paying degree. Whereas if you are able to start making significant amounts of

money at a young age, imagine all the things that you could do and the investments you can make and the changes that you could have. Yeah. If you want to work on the, if you want to be an electrician, you can also be a YouTuber. You can be an artist and a craftsman now in this world, and you can make a lot of money and you don't need to go to school for it.

You can learn the trade online. That's the overhaul I think we need is people need to take it seriously. The data's there. It is available on the internet. You taught yourself to animate at the age of 12 or something. Yeah, I started when I was 12.

No, you're like a quadrillionaire. Until YouTube locks you out of your account, of course. Yeah, no, yes, we should mention that. I did get locked up. So we're still not waiting. For people who don't know, what's going on? Yeah, so I have a large YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes. We have 877,000 subscribers.

I make animated cartoons there. What happened was I have a podcast on rumble called shamer there was another youtube channel that was pirating all of our content and uploading it without our permission permission we've been trying to flag them to get them taken down because we have our own shamer channel on youtube that we are posting clips to and it's been overshadowed in the algorithm by this imposter and so myself and many people were kind of flagging to try to get it you know to bring it to youtube's attention nothing happened and uh so i just flagged some of their their content and then youtube did take some of it down and uh because i was able to prove that this is content

that was mine originally that came from my rumble channel and then we flagged some more of it and what happened was and by we i mean me i just sat at And then we flagged some more of it. And what happened was, and by we, I mean me. I just sat at my computer and flagged a couple more videos and just showed that they were uploaded without my permission, where they came from originally. They were the exact same videos, exact same titles, exact same lengths, not mirrored or anything like that. And YouTube said that the claims were fraudulent

and that it was removing all of the channels associated with the channel that I made the claim from. So I got an email for every YouTube channel that I run from that email address that had been taken down. And it didn't mention Freedom Tunes and Freedom Tunes is still up, but all related channels are deleted and I cannot log into Freedom Tunes every single time I try to. There's no interface for me to do anything. It just takes me back to my other google accounts so i i've reached out to the people at google to see if we can get this fixed i've reached out to the people at youtube i tweeted about it a little bit earlier today let's

uh hope and pray that we're able to get this sorted out my favorite part of this was youtube responded to you on twitter saying no no you don't understand you just have to take down your your fraudulent content like and i was like oh I was like, no, you don't understand. I was accused of making a false copyright claim when I didn't. The claim was blatantly true. I posted my video on Rumble, which was identical to the video this person posted on YouTube a day later and had the same title and was the exact same content. We're locked out of Freedom Tunes right now because of all this.

All I can see is if you flag the same video from three different accounts, they're like, hey, you can only flag it from one account. Yeah, but that's not what happened. That's not what happened. So I was using the channel. It was a Clips channel for my Shamer podcast. And I flagged it from there because that seemed to be the most appropriate channel to do it from since that's the one that was being overshadowed in the algorithm by this other

shamer channel uh and yeah they said all the other channels linked to it were being removed open it up guys because he's been stressed yeah i'm not good we need to get the channel do you think they were just punishing you for having rumble exclusive i don't know about that because i it also affected my freedom tunes channel and you're right that that could still be a punishment I don't want to assume that this was like politically motivated or malicious. I think it's hot from YouTube. Yeah, I know. Well, I think here's the thing. It seems to me like something that could just be a massive mistake.

Here's the thing. It's I don't know if they have an AI algorithm doing this. If they do, I still think it's really remarkable that it would consider this claim fraudulent, considering it is the exact same video both places uploaded a day before on my channel um and also oh by the way this channel that was uploading my stuff now they just uploaded a full steven crowder video so i don't know how much more obvious it has to be that a channel is fake and pirating content but it's still up there and my channels are all taken down and we can't get into freedom no no you're you're mistaken

because you're hosting for tim this week uh he's taking over your channel right that's how the crowd is filling in for you as you found for him i thought i was i thought you were going over to the uk at some point and i thought that was so that's still gonna happen yeah i'm right so yeah so i thought that you wouldn't be him actually the show would get the raw end of the deal of the irish catholic exchange program i'm glad we're both in the same room together. That's right. Tim would send his Irish Catholic away over to England and then you guys would get one back here. No, we're both in the same room together

because I sent Tim away. Before we move on to the next topic, I want to tap out on student loans because what I think the biggest problem is that one, it's not cool to go tax a bunch of people that aren't asking for it to pay off my loans. That's not cool.

It's also not cool to print a bunch of money without anybody's authority because it diminishes all of our purchasing power. It makes the dollar worth 98 cents or 96 cents or whatever. That's not cool. What would be interesting is if they told the loan agencies, we're not giving you the interest back. All that collateral loan, all this compounding interest, you're not getting any of it back. I would even go so far as to say you're not getting any of the loans back and now that might destroy the economy so i haven't looked too deep into what that would do how it would rattle the system but i think the compound interest is predatory i don't think it's ethical it's usurious and i think

that our government would have a right to say you're not getting the compound interest back and then cut it out of everyone's debt no no printing i i would tend to agree i i think there are a lot of problems with interest especially compounding interest i understand that because we have a economy and a government that's always inflating its own currency that interest does become necessary to issue loans but i agree with you like the compounding interest stuff the idea of just making absorbent amounts of money off of these loans especially when they're federally guaranteed just seems entirely backwards to me the government's guaranteeing these loans. I don't know how you can make the same justification. It would seem to me that in that situation, what you would have to do if the

loan was federally guaranteed is ensure that the only kind of interest imposed would be interest that kept the loan steady with inflation so that the people who gave it out didn't lose value in the long term or lose adjusted money, but where they weren't able to profit immensely off of something where they really don't have any risk because the government has told them that they're going to get the money back regardless. If I can make one small point on perverse profit incentives over in the UK side, we don't have the same level of interest on our loans as you guys do, and they're not nearly as expensive. But what we do have is universities knowing

that their budget is government guaranteed, running up a massive debt. And so what they do is because foreign students pay much more, they mass import students from China and India, mainly the very wealthy students over there that can pay upfront. And then they build loads of student accommodation rather than the houses we were talking about

that charge exorbitant prices. So what ends up happening is native Britishish students even though they're paying less they're getting less quality education they're competing for the same spots and they're getting lower quality student accommodation and even their student accommodation is more expensive because it's scarce so i just think running the universities as a for-profit enterprise hasn't gone as well as as some would hope yeah well no it's interesting there's a similar problem that actually happens with state schools in the u.s if you're born in a specific state if you're a resident of that state you live there your whole life you are able to get a discount on the tuition so of course they have an economic incentive to accept more

students from out of state because they're going to end up paying the full tuition price uh without ever you know um having to give that discount and speaking of hunting for discounts we know a certain special somebody transitions on this show his luggage for free that was that was that was michael knowles level smooth thank you michael knowles hopes to be seamushlan level smooth at some point. But the non-binary ex-Biden official Sam Britton was on a secret taxpayer funded trip at the time of his luggage theft. What an unbelievably fun story here. So, yes, Sam Britton of the Department of Energy was on a taxfunded trip at the time when he stole the luggage that was or the incident where it was actually captured on footage in nevada nevada i can't believe i said nevada who says nevada it's nevada what's wrong with me no it's nevada okay i don't know it was

like a speech impediment moment there for a moment there um but yeah so the trip was caught on camera i believe this is the the third time or at least he's been accused three times of taking suitcases from women and then wearing their clothing wrong. Let's remember. He's been convicted of this twice. He's gone two out of three. So it wasn't enough that he was on a taxpayer-funded trip.

He also had to get free luggage. So I guess one question I have is, does this guy just not pack a bag before he goes on these trips? And maybe the reason that he's ended up just wearing different clothing isn't just uh you know like self-expression as he would put it but it's like this is what's in the luggage you just get luggage from the airport and then you put the clothes on

and like the clothing that was in the luggage well even how much is he stealing to continually find clothes that fit like is he just playing a numbers game or is he doing the buffalo bill thing of where he'll go are you about size 14 club and then get the well? I know I have no idea But I don't think he's spending all that much time thinking about the luggage he gets because there was a hilarious story A little while ago Hannah Claire and I were talking about this before we went on air But it was basically determined that the clothing that he was wearing was clothing Which came from the suitcase of a woman who was a fashion designer yeah so she had made a bunch of different uh beautiful dresses for a fashion expo

she went from tanzania she's from tanzania originally she's based in houston she's she's tanzania and traveled to dc was supposed to show her clothes as sort of a business deal for her and couldn't do it because her bag went missing at reagan airport and uh when she heard about sam britton's arrest she said i'm gonna look this up and recognize the clothes that he has been wearing because they're not just run of the mill you can get them at the gap they are very unique meanwhile so she went she went on twitter for this and uh it was just like i i was shortly thereafter contacted by the f who was like, please give us more information. And then after that, I don't know if they're actually connected, but Sam Burton was arrested as a fugitive from justice.

He lives in Maryland because he works for D.C. in connection to someone's luggage going missing from a D.C. airport. Yeah. And I find this to be so funny because what were the odds? I mean, it wasn't like he just wore them casually to the office. He went on to like the Trevor Projects had him on for some award and he's wearing this thing. Can you imagine being this woman being like I not just

own that, I made that. That is my piece of clothing. But shouldn't we as a nation all share with one another, Hannah Clare? Don't you think it's a bit stingy for her to say that this is just hers? It's like I always say, you didn't build that all share with one another, Hannah Clare. I don't... Don't you think it's a bit stingy for her to say that this is just her... We talked about the toothbrush thing last night. I don't know.

It's like I always say, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. Might I quote Norm Macdonald here, and that sounds like some bleep commie gobbledygook. I'd also like to draw attention to Sam Brin. Again, I'm just going to go on the ad hominem, Ian, because you're setting a fantastic example. That mugshot is the sleep paralysis demon that I see in my nightmares.

Was he wearing designer clothes? I feel matt damon he could matt damon could play that guy he's a little older now but what do you want to do you think it could be could be an interesting kind of thriller yeah dude lex friedman made a hilarious observation it wasn't even a joke he's like you go to the airport you wait for two hours standing in line taking your shoes off taking your bag out and then when you get out of the airport, you get all done, just take whatever bag you want. And it's true. You could walk out of there with like 40 bags. If you have more than one, someone will probably be like,

hey, but there's no security at the bags. They just come out and anyone can grab anything. It's crazy. I hear you, but please don't give them anything to make the airport more of a hassle. I think the baggage thing is us saying this is a price we are willing to pay to just not have to deal with the TSA anymore, not have to deal with any more bureaucracy. Just let me go.

I'm off the plane. Let me leave. But we didn't even need that level of bureaucracy when we were a higher trust society and when we started mainstreaming degeneracy and importing incompatible cultures where high trust is not that same thing. The social texture phrase. And so you need increasing levels of bureaucracy to micromanage the behaviors of a dependent population and i would agree with you but it's not even just that i mean these bureaucracies aren't even effective at combating what they're there to protect us from the tsa has failed like 98 of its audits because they're staffed by incompetent diversity hires like this so fortunately they decide to out themselves i mean yeah i mean he is one of our leading nuclear minds in this country i don't know what you're talking about oh yeah he lost all his hair

from the radiation poison yeah seriously no one i mean i think it's worth pointing out that uh you're saying before is he just following people around and guessing that they're his size he is he is specifically uh looking for female luggage one of one of the examples was uh he stole a a duffel bag but i believe was vera bradley if you if you know vera bradley it's all very feminine prints this person is specifically targeting women to steal from them this is bizarre and yet the biden administration just tried to pretend it wasn't happening they sort of said oh well he's not employed by us like we couldn't say and now we know that actually he was acting this way while on duty for the government well look i mean come on stealing luggage sniffing kids they're not that far

outside of one another in terms of like a defiance of normal behavioral expectations so i i i don't even think it's the biden administration's worst scandal by any stretch of the imagination isn't that the weirdest thing and by scale i'm not saying well there are worse scandals because there's political corruption no i'm just talking about like the weird things people in the biden administration have done i don't even think this is the weirdest thing we have a vice president who cackles over venn diagrams and who loves yellow school buses and gleefully exclaims it like she's a a children's presenter on PBS who's also pro population control they put a satanist in charge

of monkeypox response I mean did they well this is yeah this is I mean and of course the monkeypox thing we we won't get too much into detail about that just because uh it's a family probably says it is a family-friendly show but I just find it interesting that the thing that is associated with the spread of monkeypox was like the one thing that we were not willing to prohibit because we believe so deeply in human freedom and political liberty when we were willing to tell people not to go to their

jobs or to visit loved ones in the hospital or attend funerals for loved ones during the COVID pandemic. It just shows you where the priorities of the regime are. We just don't want to be bigoted. I mean, I think it's worth noting, we sort of talked about this before the show, but Sam Burton is openly, I don't know, gender fluid, all sorts of interesting hobbies.

He was featured in like a kink magazine. I find it not at all surprising that this person is clearly not bound by any social norms or values exhibition is kleptomaniac right he has been open about this he does not believe in the world that you live in he does not believe in uh anything else i'm sure i am getting his pronouns wrong of course he's stealing bags everywhere this this last like moment of trust that we all take our own bags off the carousel does not apply to him because he doesn't need to be a part of that.

And it's hard for me not to read a level of entitlement into this. Yeah, a level of entitlement. I mean, I think that's true whenever you see somebody defying social expectations, which are otherwise reasonable and acceptable and make sense. Every now and again, I get that there are barriers that need to be broken down, right? You know, I like the idea of Chesterton's fence. When you find a fence, figure out what it was for before you tear it down. And sometimes, you know, maybe that fence is for something bad and it's okay to tear it down. I'm not saying no one should ever defy expectation.

But what I am saying is when someone is defying expectations, when they are tearing down fences that very clearly have a person, of course, there's a sense of entitlement there. Do you guys know what happened to Sam Britton or what his status is right now? Was he arrested? He got arrested at his home in Maryland most recently. So with the bag stolen in Vegas, he was convicted. He had to pay a fine. In Minnesota, a similar thing brought up on charges.

There was a fine, but also he had to undergo mental health evaluations as part of sort of a deal to lessen the charges against him. I haven't gotten an update on what happened with the arrest in Maryland, which is connected to the DC airport, which presumably is this woman in Houston,

unless there are more missing bags that we don't know about. You said he fled? He was a fugitive of justice at some point? That was what he was arrested under, and I'm not sure how they're interpreting it. Oh, okay, I see. I'm surprised he had to undergo a mental health examination because I can just take one look at him and see he's clearly sane.

I mean, yeah. I think that's why. They're like, how could such a sane, healthy individual like you get into stealing bags? You just can't understand it. So we actually in Britain have had two recent scandals of married men with children who have been on TV stations for a very long time. One was a newsreader, the TV stations for a very long time. One was a newsreader. The other one hosted a daytime TV show. They have claimed mental health scares once they've been caught trying to solicit photos or hook up with young men of teenage questionable age.

Wow. Yes. And one of them tried to get out ahead of it about a year and a half ago by saying that, oh, I'm coming out as gay and isn't this brave? And then it turns out that he was having an affair with someone on the set. I have to come out as brave because otherwise you might think I'm a terrible creep. Yeah, exactly. And what they end up doing is they retreat into saying, oh, this is one, it's homophobic to criticize this. And two, I've been checked into the hospital for a mental health emergency. So we're going to leave this story alone for a while.

Yeah, you have to leave me alone. This is another important part of it right i mean look it no one is like making the argument that every single person who struggles with any kind of perversion is trying to attack children but the reality is if you have they them pronouns next to your name any predatory behavior that you engage in is going to be defended by the media and by the left and anyone who points out that you're doing something suspicious is going to be labeled a bigot but at some point you have to action speak for themselves it that is the way of the world that is if we want to survive as a species you cannot be like well you hurt all those people

okay like no man if you if you if something you did and this goes for leadership as well if something you did causes maybe a surrender in Afghanistan and the death of children and people trying to flee the country, being beheaded, you're on the hook for that. You can't just be like, oh, I was 85 years old, and I wasn't thinking about it. I want some responsibility for these behaviors. I have empathy for people with mental health issues for sure,

but at some point, you've got to be realistic about it. Yeah, I mean, I have compassion for people who with mental health issues for sure but at some point there's no you got to be realistic about yeah i mean i i have compassion for people who have mental health issues i don't have like that much compassion for the people who elect them i feel badly in some sense for for joe biden other than you know he put himself in this situation to an extent it was very hubristic i think there's an argument to be made that because of his steeply declined mental health that people in his family probably bear a larger brunt of the responsibility for this than we could attribute to him though i don't want to totally remove agency from him i mean he he has his moments but to an extent he seemed at least at the time when he began running to still be capable of making decisions i think the people around him should

have said don't do this you know you're too old but of course not i mean he's he's uh he's he's a cash cow he may i you know call me crazy he may even be the big guy that uh hunter was uh referring to yeah well you can't blame all of his votes that's crazy yeah i was gonna say you can't blame all of his votes some of them are dead nah yeah i mean look they uh they elected him because he's an elderly guy they could they could relate they felt representation you know representation matters i thought yeah well this is i think that's literally confirmed that... Did they actually literally confirm that... They found some people haven't been taken off the votes for rules, yes.

Yeah, and so, suspect. Well, I mean, I think ultimately with this story about Sam Burton, so I'm going to go back to it, is we know that we should have compassion for people who are struggling mentally or emotionally, right? But that doesn't mean that we have to excuse this behavior, right? Or elect them. Or elect them. Or elect them.

Or in this case, think that anything about what's happening is normal. And I think that's one of the reasons that, really, I see this story most reported by more conservative-leaning outlets because, you know, it drives home all the points of, look at this bizarre person who clearly does not respect

any sort of traditional or conservative values who would probably denounce them all. And this is one of the consequences. In fact, this is a seemingly mild consequence because it doesn't really involve violence, right? It's theft. It's terrible. But on the other hand, you know, we have seen more devastating results from people who are unstable in recent history. I think that this idea that we're seeing a violation of trust, the idea that you would get to take your own bag home from the airport, should be service evidence that perhaps if we don't have a strong moral foundation that we

all agree to and adhere by, that everything starts to fall apart. Totally agree. No, I totally agree with you on that. And I'm sure we all agree on that point. And when you look at someone like this particular character, a lot of the other people who have been pointed to positions in government lately or even elected, you kind of have to wonder how something like that could possibly have happened. that the media has put on average people, but we've rerouted our thinking towards saying it is mean, it is hurtful, it is terrible, and it is unacceptable to ever place someone in an out group on the basis of the way that they act, the way that they choose to dress. Here's the thing. When you have a representative democracy,

it's important that political leaders represent you. Who does he represent? Is this someone who represents the average person? Are you talking about Biden? Well, I think Biden's actually a fair question. represent you who does he represent is this someone who represents the average person we're talking about but biden well i think biden's actually a fair question it's fair to ask that question about him i would say sam particularly he wasn't elected he was appointed he was a point yeah but my point is yes hence it's exactly and what he represents are um degenerates who are very easy to compromise yes and that's the perverse incentive to appoint people

who are well outside the norm because they have a stake in the regime protecting them at all times and going along with a very permissive progressive orthodoxy man it's we i'm very concerned with the levels of crime increases with the economy inflation and stuff like i'm not into authoritarian crackdown in any way but at some point well no i shouldn't say in any way like there have been instances where countries have like uprisings and they have to have some sort of authoritarian crackdown on the uprising to preserve the country but i i don't want that i don't want it to get to that point it's it's like we should be able to talk through this and like encourage people to like stand up for themselves and take their property rights seriously that's very compassionate

unfortunately not everyone's as smart as as you that's not meant to be condescending at all some people only respond to incentives and not ideas there are some people that if given the system of permissions will just go out and loot and burn and take what they want and that's why nate bekele cracking down on el salvador you see the new york times going oh this is a liberal it's like yeah but we're not going to get it wrong because they have skull face tattoos we know who the criminals are and then it turns out once you crack down on the criminal element, your country improves.

Yeah, absolutely. And I'll mention this, Ian, you've got to be careful with that. And I think maybe you're putting too much pressure on what you're supporting with the use of this term authoritarian. You're saying, well, maybe we need authoritarian crackdowns. Well, who says a crackdown is always authoritarian? If people are rioting in the streets and burning down innocent people's businesses, then they're the authoritarians.

And civil authorities are just stepping in to promote the rights of the people who are being harmed by uh the the rioters but we're gonna head over to super chats right now so everybody please smash that like button share this video become a member at timcast.com so you can join us in the after show at 10 10 where viewers will be calling in live to talk with us so we have uh from waffle sensei tim if you're listening blink twice if you're in danger he may take your spoons he may take your beanie but he will never take your freedom firstly why would you be asking him to blink twice when you can't even see him does he think i'm tim is the beanie working why is he quoting a Scotsman in my presence? I'm almost offended. That's a fair point.

Yeah. It's almost a hate crime. It really was a psyop. Yeah. It was a psyop the entire time. Tim is fine, you know, and sometimes people just, they just need to step away for a little bit.

Tim just tweeted out today, he doesn't like MRIs. Yeah, he doesn't enjoy MRIs. Tim personally tweeted that. Blink twice, T-Bone. Regenerate slowly, my man. We have from Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Shame is well done last night.

Cheers. Thank you. Have you seen the first edition of TimCast Discord News? You are the main story. It's pretty hilarious. Yes, somebody did send that to me, and I didn't find it funny. Yeah. I think it's amazing that our-

I didn't find that funny. I won't say anything. I didn't find it funny. I wasn't there. I definitely didn't- It continued to level the same insane it funny I wasn't there I definitely didn't It continued to level The same insane accusations I definitely didn't hear him giggle

When he saw it on Twitter today That's definitely not Seamus' style Giggle? A giggle Giggle First of all No noise that has ever

Come out of my face Could be described as a giggle You could do a giggle I could not do a giggle I've never done a giggle In my life Even when I laugh at something It's a hardy manly

What if it's a What if it's a hard G, like jiggle? No, no, neither of those. I don't really think I jiggle all that much either. I don't have enough body fat. I'm just here to report what I heard. I can't say it. It sounded like a giggle to me. Once again, more fake news from the media. More fake news from the liberal press.

Nate Perreault says, hey, Connor, glad to see you here. Thank you. Big fan of the Lotus Eaters, and as the most base person there, you're my favorite. Keep up the good work and spread truth, my guy. Base person at the Lotus Eaters. He obviously thinks you're the most base person here. So that's funny because someone else today, a certain Roland Ratt on Twitter,

pseudonym of an academic named Nima Parvini, he said my colleague Harry was the most base person. And I did get my backup about that. So myself and the northern monkey himself will be dueling it out, I'm sure. At your office, instead of having employee of the month, do you have, like, based person of the month? I mean, how does this work? So there is a Discord channel that used

to exist called Josh's Based Takes, from which I will not read out because I will not incriminate my friend, but I think Josh might have had a monopoly on that for quite a while. Oh, wow. Dude, how's Lotus Eaters going, by the way? Like like do you guys have any public plans coming up uh so we've just moved to new studios so that's really cool we've just unveiled that because beforehand the bit behind the scenes it was just one room and we had a curtain separating our filming stuff so as soon as we were recording the lights would go off and every writer was in the room had to

be silent because it was all open plan office now we've got two new studios one's a bit of a library one's the five-person roundtable. It's really cool. We might do a third one. We'll see what we cobble together. And then future expansion plans, there might be some stuff in the works, but now we're just really glad that we get to record more concurrent content, more hosts,

and I believe Stelios, Carl, and Bo did a discussion on the Epic of Gilgamesh, which was four hours the other day. So that's the kind of stuff we're going to do going forward. Is this what you saw yourself doing when you went into debt for your university degree? What did you see yourself doing? I wasn't really sure because I didn't really get into politics until my second year. And what ended up happening was I was finding myself arguing with all of the other seminar participants that bothered to show up and the seminar leader when I thought I was stating observable truths.

And we actually had, and I don't think I've told this story before so okay this should be fun uh timcast exclusive yeah yeah yeah well i won't incriminate myself um we had invited as part of student society we've got a students for liberty chapter so very tepid very free speech we'd invited my current boss carl benjamin to speak and uh antifa the feminist society showed up in coordination with the student union who were elected at the time and this was published in the student newspaper to quote bait them into being abusive to start fights to shut the society down um my then girlfriend had her work called to try and get her fired they spray painted and defaced the side of the sports stadium um they made threats

when we had an israelian palestinian ambassador show up at the first uk university to do that and then they decided to get into our group chat and fabricate screenshots of edgy jokes to make us look really bad wow and so we got sat in front of a university tribunal free speech tribunal where genuinely diversity inclusion coordinator had brought up quotes from der stormer saying oh the nazis use humor to recruit their members so that's what you guys have been doing and the person that was chairing that particular tribunal um was one of the student union members that had tried to start the fight on campus so conflict of interest completely overblown we got chewed out for it so then after that um my friend decided to set up a

little think tank thing trying to tell the uk government they were spending too much money on environmental policy i joined that i wrote a little bit on the side and then i abandoned the government thing because they barely listened to me they listened once and then not the rest of it frustrating and then just sort of went thing because they barely listened to me. They listened once and then not the rest of it. Frustrating. And then just sort of went into commentary and TV and whatnot accidentally. So yeah, long story short. No, didn't think I'd be here. Bit surreal, actually.

How'd you meet Carl? So other than him coming to the university campus, I went to university with Callum. So Callum and I have known each other for a few years. But I went to a Low Seas live event um and Carl had like a bit of an adverse first impression of me but I started telling stories and he was like oh you're right actually you're not much of a knob as I thought um and then so I got invited as a as a guest just to do a sort of guest podcast it was meant to be with a former

employee but he wasn't showing up for the day so so I ended up doing one with Callum and then Carl just went to me oh do you want to come and get a cup of tea have a chat and i was like yeah yeah thanks for bringing me in each one so when do you start um so that was yeah that was really cool nice yeah they didn't even have to interview for it and i'm very thankful what did you say you're like i start next week or i was i was like well i need to figure out uh how to get here slash how to move here and and you know um but yeah no i'm very enthusiastic and the thing the lovely thing about lotus is is that we have actually built parallel institution where all of us are good friends like some of those guys and i think you know i don't want to sound soft but some of those guys are like my brothers and they've gotten i've had a i've had

a hit and miss year professionally great personally a bit rough and they've been there for me so i'm very thankful to carl and all those guys for putting that together that's great man uh no it's good that he's building something over there right he decided to move outside of just having a brand based on his personality and started welcoming other people and he's got four kids you know he's a busy guy yeah yeah yeah uh from cti 29 this is actually really heartbreaking um someone i know's 17 year old daughter got an abortion today at 13 weeks i'm just asking for prayers for the family i can tell it hurt them and it seemed like they thought there was no other option and so in a lot of these situations a person feels like there's no other option and that's

why they do it but there is always another option there is always hope there is always a way for that child to live yeah and thrive i think this is one of the things that we should be most irritated and most most infuriated about about modern culture which is you'll get articles from teen vogue that say this is how you comfort your friend after she gets an abortion it's obviously targeted to young women in their 20s probably even younger it's teen vogue and they act like there are no consequences to this decision ultimately you're you're going to be happy you did it because your life is messed up by the results of decisions you made. Exactly. And I think that is just horrific, right? It is. It's fear-mongering too, for

all the the time they spend accusing the right of fear-mongering. The left fear-mongers about human life, we have too many people in the world, it's gonna be horrible, everyone's gonna starve, if you have that child you'll never achieve your dreams, your life will be horrible. And then they accuse us of being emotionally manipulative for wanting to show people ultrasounds Which literally just show you a picture of what the child whose life you're contemplating ending looks like you tell me what's more manipulative Telling someone they're never gonna be happy if they have this child or showing them the child That's how weak this argument is though one that the image of one sonogram could change everything for someone That's why you can't see that there's actual life that you're terminating through an abortion.

You're supposed to be completely separate from it. So think of it like getting a haircut maybe or just something innocuous, which is completely misleading, right? You should be fully informed about the decisions you make. Of course, a young person, a 17-year-old, can't fully understand the consequences of all of their actions. On the other hand, we can't act like abortion is an emotionless, run-of-the-mill thing. Yeah, so let's all say some prayers for that family. We have from Matthew Hammond.

Connor made it on TimCast IRL before Carl Benjamin. Look at that. Yes, well, it coincided with a general trip for mine and thank you to Serge for saying, oh, you know, this guy might not be terrible. No, Cole is just genuinely so busy. Like, I did say to him, oh, do you want to conjoin

our trips and come do stuff because, you know, we had potential other plans and other shows that were asking and he just couldn't make it out this time because it was too short notice. He's just had his fourth child. She's less than six months old yeah, so he's building an empire both at Lotus Caesars and at home and Yeah, so hopefully he will be able to come over either later in the year or early next year and you guys will get the Preferred candidate so that's fine. The full money. I feel like this was great. I wouldn't swap you for me

Yeah, I wouldn't swap you at all. We have from nosoupfornolescamefortim for tim dot dot dot who the eff is this guy so for those of you who don't know no soup for knolls is an unbelievably terrible woman who does the voices for the female characters and freedom tunes just you know i i would have i'd fire her instantly if i had any other option but unfortunately women refuse to talk to you when you're a cartoonist. So yeah, it's an unfortunate reality. But she likes doing the cartoons. She treats me very poorly. It's really horrible.

No soup for gnolls. Yeah, no soup for gnolls. That's so funny. Yeah. I love that you're going to dodge this question. Who is this guy? You're just attacking the person who raised the question. Listen, she's... We have from Joe Mallett, Ian, jujitsu, do it.

Started at 30 and wish I had sooner. Heading to my class now. I'm very open to that. Phil Labonte, you know, does jujitsu a little bit. I won't, not, you know, a little bit, but he's actually been having, I think he said he had a knee injury from it a month ago, a few months ago, which is a pain in the ass. So, you know, one, one step at a time. But I'd have to cut my hair, I think.

I'm not comfortable going in there and grappling with long hair. No, women braid their hair. You should wear like a bathing cap. No, no, wear like one of those bathing caps. You can be like corn pop in there, bro. Skin tone, yeah, skin tone bathing cap, maybe. Clay Guida was a great grappler, and he's always had really long, wild caveman hair.

It's just part of the aesthetic. Wild, okay. When I roll back on my back, I don't like it pulling, was a great grappler and he's always had really long wild caveman hair it's just part of the aesthetic wild okay when I roll back on my back I don't like it pulling so I'd have to get it up and bound somehow we just gotta teach you

how to French braid your own hair I'm telling you have you not seen Women's UFC that's the key alright I'm into it you just gotta do it

you gotta braid your hair they'll lose their minds they'll accuse you of like cultural appropriation or something like that every minute of that oh my goodness um we have here from agamemnon's gym bag it's a great name i'd bet north fc loves trump good to see you

connor one of the best lotus one of the best on the lotus eaters oh thank you very much yeah he actually super chatted in quite a while ago plugging one of my segments to tim which was uh which was appreciated. Yeah. Are you guys familiar with North FC? No. Okay. So, you know, like Soy Jacks, the open mouth glasses guy that's pointing.

It's like kind of that art style. I don't know if you'll be able to pull up a photo of it, Serge. But it's like a big, podgy man, poorly, crudely drawn. And he'll say very basic things that anyone with sense would agree with. It's like, you know the theologian and the... I think I've seen this meme, yeah. And he'll just be like, love me country, love me wife, love me Greggs, it the globalist, simple as.

And it's like, the trustworthy British pub man you'll find anywhere that is the heart of the country. Yeah, he does enjoy Trump, yes. That's Baz! What's his name again? Baz. B-A-Z. It's North FC. North FC. That's the gentleman in question. Okay.

Yeah. That's a solid meme. I've seen it. I've seen it a number of times. I assumed it was... Looks like a Mike Judge character. It actually does look a bit like a Mike Judge character. But he's got a very trustworthy face. I would say so. I think I'd trust the guy. He's seen things.

Is he going to make an appearance in Freedom Dunes? I can't just plagiarize somebody else's character. That's true. I mean, you can. Except for Joe Biden. He is one of the only funny SNL characters to ever have been created. He's just... I refuse to believe he's real.

We have from Saddle F-ing Tr effing tramp trump i'm sorry um i have to commend shamus as a potato american catholic being so civil with a british protestant a british protestant that's insulting i know i'm the british protestant just so everyone knows yeah you're canadian i'm british and that's why i'm never civil in america HC. Yeah, you'll be hearing from my priest. No, I'm a... My bishop. I am actually an Irish Catholic. Half of my family from Donegal.

If my mom slash nan hadn't have been married, my name would either be Connor James McDade or Connor James Daly. And he's Irish on his mom's side, which means he's actually Irish. Yeah, exactly. Were you born in Ireland? No, no, no.

My nan was, and she had the accent until she moved over. So, yes. All good. So she had the accent until she moved over. So are you your company's diversity hire then? Yeah, technically the Irish aren't white. So it's me and Callum are black. Josh is quite swarthy. Stelios is Greek so he's technically black.

Here's the thing. In the US, the Irish are considered white but the Irish were only considered white once being white meant you had to apologize for being white. So we really got in at the worst possible time to get on being white um uh excuse me red rummix says m in uk medical job had training today on how to write gender neutral reports so we cannot say she or he we are not allowed to use any pronouns at all madness that is because that's going to be a great way to communicate that's going to be super clear anecdotal but that's concerning if that's true

that's how the nhs management staff are run they the diversity uh inclusion coordinators over there go for 70 to 80 000 pounds uh salary a year um the nhs by the way just to dismal like any romanticism about universal healthcare and how it normally plays out to an American audience, we have an exponentially increasing budget that can never meet demand, and the amount that we spend on bureaucracy

is hellish, and so there's this trickle-up effect. They spent thousands of pounds painting rainbow crosswalks outside of the hospitals every year. Well, it saves lives. It saves lives. Exactly.

How do they know they're going to be saved at that hospital? The rainbow sidewalks, I'm convinced they're only there so that the lefties can have their persecution complex validated every single time there's a skid mark on it. Like, why would you put your sacred symbolism on a street? Also, how can you be the minority group if we're painting your group symbol i'm not like this doesn't make sense it literally makes no sense it literally makes absolutely no sense that's what i find so exhausting is trying to like grapple with the logic or their for lack of logic from the other side because i do feel obligated to sort of uh consider where someone would be coming from but at a certain point you have to just say like you know you don't make sense right yeah not because i mean it's just that you don't make any sense exactly um essay

federale says connor england has nothing in regards to aristocrats they wrote an entire joke called the aristocrats about the biden family what are your thoughts uh england does still have somewhat of an aristocracy it's just that they don't really consider our concerns anymore this is this is kind of the oh i'm gonna upset your show this is kind of the great lie of democracy it's the it doesn't it doesn't really matter whether or not every mechanism is based on consent it matters whether or not the the sort of landowning gentry are substantively they see you as part of their moral constituency yeah um like the american aristocracy yeah sure they're elected sort of i mean the gerrymandering and all that um but they consider the people they rule over less than a feudal lord would have consideration for his peasants and so and we still we still have an aristocracy to an

extent i mean the house of lords is still appointed as peerages by the prime minister and they're very rich people and that and you know they get final say on legislation and whatnot um it's just that a lot of the aristocracy are captured by progressive ideals. So they don't even have the old class dynamic anymore. Yeah, no, I think that's interesting. And there's definitely something to that. One thing I love, which Hans Hermann Hoppe said, is that part of what democracy does is it eliminates class consciousness, right? So people who are lower on the authority hierarchy don't really see themselves as separate

from their leaders because they've gotten to choose them like make no mistake you are in separate classes you are absolutely in separate classes uh and and i agree with you that not every mechanism like the the idea that every mechanism within government being based on consent is what makes it functional is is absolutely nonsensical obviously there are certain people who are unappointed bureaucrats and i have issue with that if you're in a nation which prides itself on being democratic but uh ultimately what's important is that we have laws that help a man reach his final end which help a man to to live virtuously have a good life be able to provide for his family the things that actually matter to people uh and so i i'm there with you think on this says as a former university employee

i say raid the university endowments to pay off student loans. Who do you think benefited from lying to people about the positives of one higher education and two taking out loans? Okay, so here's where I'm going to disagree with you on this. For as much as I'm sympathetic to making the colleges pay for this, if you raid that, what you're essentially doing is taking the money that people who have already paid off their debt financed, and then giving it to people who haven't paid off their debts. If you're going to redistribute the endowments, if you're going to redistribute the money that these universities got, it actually makes more sense to redistribute that money to college educated people who already paid off their loans. Is there any university in America that because a lot of endowments are generated through fundraising, through alumni. Are there any colleges in America that say to their alumni, hey, you could donate directly

to someone's student loan debt? Oh, that's a great idea. Instead of scholarships, why don't we just say, like, you could give me $10,000 and we will actually give it to a kid who's in $10,000 worth of student loan debt. Sponsorships, essentially. Right. I don't understand why it's always, you know, I understand the point of scholarships and I understand, although I don't always agree with why universities fundraise.

But if we wanted to have a forgiveness program, wouldn't it be interesting to have, you know, the alumni of a school say the student has taken out loans. They seem to be performing well academically. I want to pay off their loan. And the schools. Why are we having this third party? The ones that have more repayments through that kind of process would have more people applying to them. And there would be an expectation that when you became, if you were an alumni in a position where it was financially viable, you would then contribute in a similar way. And that system would be really cool.

But instead we're like, no, no, give your money to the college to then, I don't know, waste. That's a great idea. That's a really good idea. Then that's the thing. Even though, as I mentioned, a person ends up making more as a result of having a college education, I still think degrees are massively overpriced. And so the fact that you'd pay more for something than you should have,

and then they would ask you for more money is totally wild. Just the audacity. C.S. Cooper says, Connor, so awesome to see you stateside. When can we expect Lotus Eaters USA division? P.S. Tal says, Connor, so awesome to see you stateside. When can we expect Lotus Eaters USA division? P.S. Tell Callum I said dot, dot, dot, dot. So C.S. Cooper, we have a video comments for any of our paying members.

So if they pay us the gold tier, which is just £30 a month, they can send in a video comment at the end of our podcast and interact with us. And Craig, who pays his monthly subscription and uses it very kindly to promote his books. We're building culture, I suppose. But yeah,

Lotus Seed is USA division. We do not quite have the budget to expand to that at this point. Though, if we are chased out the country, I mean, we might just become de facto

Lotus Seed is USA division. So, who knows? Well, come join us in West Virginia. That'd be fun. Don't tempt me um excuse me unbelievable alan schurer says clearly youtube is holding freedom tunes accountable for under house dwelling people stealing spoons so this is exactly the problem with spreading misinformation this is exactly the problem with spreading

misinformation on the internet there's no evidence I ever stole spoons. But there's karmic justice. There's no evidence that I live. There is not. And there's also no evidence that I live under Tim's house and steal his spoons. This is ridiculous. But I think there's actually credibility to this theory that I'm being falsely punished for crimes that I did not commit because Tim Pool, this is, you know what?

I'm going to have to talk to the Daily Beast about this one. Last week, I saw Seamus emerge from the basement. Actually, I didn't see you emerge. I just saw you emerge from where the basement is, from that area. And then I saw you walk over to a berry bush and just pick some berries and then eat them. That actually did happen.

And then he walked back. Hold on, hold on. How did I eat them? One hand, one finger at a time. Interesting, so no spoon was used when i ate the berries uh interesting suffering through these allegations will make you stronger i think it will make me stronger as a person yeah and that should scare all of you yeah yeah so do you think you actually benefit from this misinformation it's a trial that you

are therefore benefiting from i think things that happen to you are all things that you can benefit from ultimately but that doesn't mean it's not an injustice and it is an injustice should we I think things that happen to you are all things that you can benefit from, ultimately. Forging steel with fire. But that doesn't mean it's not an injustice. And it is an injustice. Should we release a formal spoon count of how many spoons are available on property? And what that compares to? I mean, I didn't ever count before.

Now you want a nanny state to go around and count every spoon on the property? This is ridiculous. We have to do an in-depth study, right? This is ridiculous. For all we know, you melted the spoons down. These paranoid conspiracies, they call me sponanon and he's saying this nonsense.

This is garbage. This is nonsense. It's just been going on for too long. I'm just saying, we can't say if the spoons are missing if we don't know how many spoons we have. And Tim won't even come back? He's so angry. I'm joking, by the way, you guys. Jeez, everyone was quiet. No, he left because he's stealing his stuff.

He got it. He's not mad at you, Ian. He's not mad at you. I don't blame him. He just needed to take a break, go to the farm, hang out. You know, he'll come back. Tim will be back next week. Everyone's like, we'll see.

Tim, he's the only reason this show's good. It depends. If I allow Tim to come back, he'll be back. But we're going to have to see about that. Stefan Vaidehiday or i'm sorry veda what is wrong with me um unbelievable interesting number ukraine uses 5 000 artillery shells per day u.s makes 80 000 per year russia is estimated to make 700 000 to 3.3 million per year and biden says we're low on ammunition. This isn't good.

I got to hear those numbers again. Ukraine uses five. I feel like I'm reading a word problem almost now. I'm like, I'm with you, dude. As soon as I read something, I'm like, what were the numbers? Ukraine uses 5,000 artillery shells per day. The U.S. makes 80,000 per year. Russia is estimated to make 700,000 to 3.3 million per year and biden says we're low on ammunition this isn't good interesting that

isn't yes i agree joe biden talking is not good i've never been a fan i i know we haven't touched on ukraine at all and i'm no foreign policy expert but my position on it is i'm a little englander and i don't want to pay for either country that's just a radical take i suppose but just completely illogical how could you do this people of ukraine that's just a radical take i suppose but just completely illogical how could you do this people of ukraine that's like uh calling somebody it's weird we have this term isolationist like it's it's anti-social to not want to go to war with other people like what i'm not saying we can't trade with other people or be friends with other people saying don't go to war with them what um what's what's more isolating being at peace with other countries or going to war with them you tell me um blanks

b-l-e-n-c-z says yes with an exclamation point so that's yes my two favorite catholic political commentators are on the same show question for connor what has been your favorite and least favorite part about visiting the states also when is the next comics corner happening okay so comics corners coming out i think tomorrow might be depends on uh if our wonderful editor jack has um been doing double time since i've been away it's on the it's on the history of comics part one we're gonna have another berserk one coming out soon as well it's very inside baseball guys basically carl pays us to talk about comics once a month i love my job um the so visiting the state uh i feel like a smurf because everything is massive here like why do you have four lane roads that would be a highway where i'm

from this is ridiculous but i can tell that if the revival is going to come from somewhere it's definitely going to come from here first and because you guys still have a deep sense of social texture even in deep blue massachusetts there was a two to one ratio of national flags to pride flags uh there is still latent Christianity here. I mean, I'll paraphrase Nietzsche, who I don't like, but he was right in that if God is considered dead culturally, then the great cathedrals of Europe will become the sepulchers and mausoleums to a dead idea. And that is largely what has unfortunately happened with both the hollowing out of the congregations in the UK and also the Archbishop of York coming out and saying the Lord's Prayer is patriarchal and oppressive. It is patriarchal, yes. Yes, that's why I like it.

But that's our whole thing. I got news for you. The universe is a patriarchy. We have a king. That's it. That's it. Well, that's one way to look at it.

No, get out. Ian, you're banned. Get out. If you want the worldview that posits that I'm some kind of lunatic spoon thief, then you go with whatever.

We'll go into it on the after show. I think the comment on the highway is the best one. If you've ever driven in England, Americans can't do it, especially if you're in more rural areas trying to go down any road. You'll see these cars speed towards each other and just narrowly skate one another. It's terrifying. That is the only thing that i have experienced i've had uh friends who have tried to encourage me to move out here and and this is the hitchens position being denethor you know flee flee for your lives

england is lost and it's not that i'm not sympathetic and i have come to love this country quite a bit but i just feel like i would i would be alien or i tried to call anywhere else home so for for a little while i'll stay in flight until I pushed out. Is it, are the roads in England, are they just old? Is that why they're smaller and they don't handle cars? Yes, we're not a super industrial town, not town, country. Country.

Like you don't get like Ford F-150 pickup trucks. It's just completely smaller scale. Or freedom or toothbrushes or anything like that. It's just like a typical country. All teeth are fine actually. I know it's like the number the number one you're skating on hate crimes right now i know listen i'll tell you this much i gotta be honest with you man when you're talking about the u.s maybe having a resurgence or being a country that brings this stuff back i hope you're right but it sounds like it's really bad in in europe if you can be in a blue state and say you know things

are pretty good here that's uh we We don't fly our national flag. So actually, so this is what most people don't understand. The Union Jack, there are very few of them. But each country has its own national flag. And the Scottish and Welsh and that, they're Celtic nationalists, so they'll fly theirs. England don't fly their national flag. And actually, I think she was shadow foreign secretary. She might now be the chief lawyer of the Labour Party, which is going to be the incumbent government.

Emily Thornberry, grotesque woman she decided to tweet out a while ago a photo of a council flat with a white van and the english flag hanging outside the window because it was the world cup or something and i don't know if she explicitly captioned it disgusting but i remember that being the vibe and it's the utter contempt the political establishment have for patriotism in our country it's near inescapable yeah yeah that's a good point i i think a huge part of that is if you're actually patriotic to your country and you don't blindly obey your political leaders that's a problem for them actually having you know faith and concern and loyalty for and towards the values of your nation rather than whatever whatever political leader happens to

be in power or whatever movement is is fashionable is absolutely you know you have to eliminate i understand the patriotism the the the dislike of nationalism sometimes because like we could have a global system of decentralized statehood like we could just be a united states of earth where everyone governs themselves locally and we're all connected through like you know laws and internet regulate but like decentralized it could be more decent like we don't have to stop here at nationalism so tech is a homogenizing force that's the point it always has the ratchet effect to greater global surveillance cultural uh ubiquity because it's easier to itemize and that's that's why it stratifies people into satiating their individual desires rather than having local parochial geographically bound values so i i yeah i am very am very skeptical of the possibility of international cooperation

to keep together any sort of cultural texture. Yeah, yeah, especially at that scale. Well, I want to thank you all for watching. Thank you all for stopping by. And also, everyone watching, if you enjoy the show, smash that like button, share the video. And, Connor, where can we find you?

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Yes, I intervene because you hit me. I hit me up on Twitter, and I was like, yeah, if you're in town, I'm sure I can get you on the show. Here we are. Tim's not here, but, you know, I can only do so much. Not a miracle worker. Yeah, take it away, Seamus. Yeah, so my name is Seamus Coghlan. I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes that I used

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