Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #822 California School District FINED $3M For Rejecting LGBTQ+ Curriculum w/ Daniel Turner

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

Seamus, Carter, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Daniel Turner to discuss Gavin Newsom fining a California School millions after the school rejected a woke course, the Stanford Dean who confronted a conser...vative judge resigning, Matt Gaetz introducing a new bill to defund Jack Smith's investigation into Trump, & NYC Mayor warning migrants the city has "no more room." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:11 rejecting an LGBTQ curriculum covering Harvey. Milk, the Stanford Dean of DEI, resigns after supporting and encouraging a unruly student protest. And Congressman Matt Gaetz introduces legislation to prohibit funding for the Department of justice for being used for special counsel jack smith's probe into donald trump we're going to get into all of that and more but first hit that like button and if you want to support what we're doing here become a member at timcast.com so you can see our after hours show the uncensored version where we're able to say some of the things that we can't say on youtube but would like to also if you want to help support us in building culture and keeping the lights on go over to castbrew.com and pick yourself up a bag of cast brew coffee we're building culture we're sponsoring ourselves so head on over there and get yourself a bag we are joined today by
Starting point is 00:02:03 daniel turner founder and executive director of Power of the Future. Daniel, thank you for coming back onto the show. It is great to be on the show. Thank you. And I got a quick story for you all before we do intros. And I'll be brief. Friend of the show who watches it, a guy named Trevor. I do oil and gas and fossil fuel advocacy issues, energy job.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I battle the green groups for a living. A friend of the show trevor is from a small town called greely nebraska population around 500 and as the biden administration is dumping out billions and billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars for wind and solar the small town of greely nebraska suddenly was told they're going to get this enormous wind farm and they wanted many of the residents to sign 75 year leases 75 years to turn over their land so that they could put up these wind farms and trevor friend of the show was like something doesn't feel right and saw me on an episode and said we're doing a town hall but we can't find
Starting point is 00:02:54 people to talk about the other side of the issue would you come so i flew to grillie nebraska didn't do any fundraising wasn't trying to become famous this is about them in their town and it was around three and a half hours of a town hall where I sat down with the residents and just talked about what are wind turbines? What does it do? What is this company going to do? The funny thing is the company building the wind farm was there, but they refused to engage. They refused to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:03:18 So when questions came up like, hey, this is tornado country. The tornado comes through and blows up this wind turbine and projectiles go in every direction and it goes through your house or your barn. Who cleans up, right? Who's liable for that? These wind turbines, right? They're moving pieces. They have thousands of gallons of fluid.
Starting point is 00:03:37 If that fluid leaks, who cleans up? Are you responsible or is the wind farm? What's the environmental impact study? I tell you, if we're going to drill for oil and gas, the amount of third party environmental impact studies we have to do is astronomical. They got exempted from environmental impact studies. So I'm saying, look, I'm not telling you to vote against the wind farm. I'm just saying these are really good questions that you should get answers to before you
Starting point is 00:04:01 sign over grandpa's farm for 75 years. And so ended very quickly with this. This audience is getting engaged, right? People on, you can call it the right, conservative, anti-establishment, everyone frame it. People are a little tired of getting things shoved down their throat, whether it's COVID, whether it's green, whether it's trans. And to see this level of engagement that a member of this audience reached out and said, you know, you're an expert.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Come help us out. I hope more people do. And I'm looking at the camera. If your town's going through this with solar, with wind, if someone's coming in saying, we're going to take over your land for our agenda and you're nervous, you know, find me on Twitter or DM me or farm me, daniel.powerofthefuture.com. So I just want to thank this show.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I want to thank all of you because you're all part of it, and I want to thank Tim for putting it together because when people like that, like you, Trevor trevor buddy when people like that get involved um we will stop all the bad nonsense that's happening in society like you said taking over culture taking over taking our rights back so thank you for the quick shout out thank you to the folks in greeley and thanks to this program and great to be on yeah and again it's great to have you back on and it's always very encouraging to hear that there are audience members
Starting point is 00:05:06 who are taking this very seriously and getting involved in trying to instantiate some change at the local level. That's really important. That's really important. Yeah, it's amazing. It's awesome that you took the time to get out there. And I appreciate that you're willing to respond
Starting point is 00:05:19 to your Twitter DMs and fly to Nebraska and help out because that is kind of crazy that a company wanting to put wind turbines on your land just declines to talk to you. Not the start of a great relationship, in my opinion. No, and there's so much money in the Inflation Reduction Act and the infrastructure bill that this is going to happen more and more. And what does it do to the environment? What does it do to cattle? What does it do to aquifers? Again, I'm not saying all these things should stop happening. Obviously, I'm not in favor of wind and solar i think they're useless products um but just
Starting point is 00:05:49 ask hard questions and heck right before that we went live we were having a hard conversation we agree yeah on on like a lot of trans issues ask hard questions i just want to and when you try to shut down i know we're going to get to shutting down debate but when you try to shut down debate and conversation, boy, that should make people very nervous. Anyone who doesn't want to answer questions and says, stop asking them. Ooh,
Starting point is 00:06:10 like, you know where that person stands, right? Yeah. So you definitely do. Well, yeah, we've got some stories about that tonight too.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So thanks folks. Yeah. So I'm so glad you're here. I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow. I'm a writer for timcast.com. I'm so happy to be back on another episode of Shimcast. No, James is doing a great job. He deserves a lot lot of credit this is a lot of work thank you um yeah i'm ready for timcast.com i'm so glad to be here with our favorite music producer what's up everyone
Starting point is 00:06:36 i'm carter banks i do all things music here at timcast and i'm filling in for ian tonight who is on a mission to find where Tim is. We wish him the best of luck. He's out there looking. He's very loyal and I admire that. It's been a hard week for him. Has been. And Serge is here. Yeah, I'm here. I also produce music.
Starting point is 00:06:58 He does. Oh man. I don't realize how political I made this episode. My favorite music producer who's produced, who was employed by the company I'm employed by. Hey, I mean, I'm not employed to do music, so. You guys know I also produce music. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:07:12 You can't just declare yourself everything. I do not produce music. I also don't produce music. To be honest, I also don't produce music. But you are a journalist, so. I am a journalist. Yeah, I'll let you do that one. There's great music in your Freedom Tunes.
Starting point is 00:07:24 That's true. We have parody songs. Yeah, they're awesome awesome i take it back please help me help you what what show's already off the rails i've been asked to do music like your music before it's eight bit kind of video game type music it's very cool nice nice yeah well you're doing awesome stuff here with tim thank you sir i think so well speaking of things that aren't so awesome uh california school is going to have to pay over three million dollars after rejecting an lgbtq with Tim. Thank you, sir. I think so. Well, speaking of things that aren't so awesome, California school is going to have to pay over $3 million
Starting point is 00:07:47 after rejecting an LGBTQ curriculum. The curriculum covered Harvey Milk, who is the first openly gay elected official in the United States
Starting point is 00:07:56 who was assassinated in 1978. Here's the thing about Harvey Milk. He was known to have been preying on underage boys. He was in a quote-unquote
Starting point is 00:08:03 relationship with a 16-year-old at one point when he was in his 30s. But, of course, children have to learn about him in school as if he's a hero. And this district, the school board, said, no, sorry, we're not interested in teaching our kids that. So Newsom said, we're going to fine you $1.5 million and force you to pay another $1.6 million in shipping costs associated with the material that were sent to these schools. So we're seeing stories like this all the time. I'm glad to see that the school board is fighting back. Look at Newsom, who claims to be the gatekeeper and the warrior for free speech when he's talking about book bans and the fact that all ideas need to be
Starting point is 00:08:42 allowed in California, telling people that they actually have to have this curriculum forced on them when their school board has said, no, we don't want this. There's a hill you have to die on and eventually, otherwise you keep losing. And I think, again, it's hard. It's easy for me to say this because it's not my school or it's not my $3 million. But the answer is no. We're just not going to pay that fine and we're not going to teach it. Are you going to extort $3 million? But the answer is no. We're just not going to pay that fine and we're not going to teach it. Are you going to extort $3 million from us? Are you going to shut down the school?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Well, then you know what? You shut down the school. Sorry. Eventually, you just have to stop giving into this because if school boards, what's the purpose of having a school board? If then the governor can just override it and then the governor is overridden by the Department of Education and where does it end? So ultimately, it's really just Joe Biden. Joe Biden decides everything. That's absolutely right. Well, I mean, these people are all tyrannical. And it's so frustrating because you had Obama come out the other day and write this letter
Starting point is 00:09:33 saying, oh, it's wrong to ban books. And of course, the books that are being banned here are generally pornographic. They contain materials that are scarring for children. And it's the parents who are saying, we don't want our children to see this content. The vast majority of these quote unquote book bands are led by parental groups. And even opponents of that will acknowledge this. But they'll say these are parents who are backwards religious fundamentalists, even though firstly, as far as I'm aware, I don't know that there's actually a strong religious
Starting point is 00:10:01 component to it. I would imagine there is just in the sense that we're in a country which is based on Christian values. But these people, I know some of the people who go up and fight these school boards, and they're not all religious people by any means. So the left will try to smear these people. They'll try to smear the grassroots efforts to get this pornographic content out of schools. And the truth is, it's because they know that's the only option. They can't try to blame the usual actors, the big donors, any corrupt political class for this. They can tell this is coming from parents.
Starting point is 00:10:29 This is coming from families who are saying, stop preying upon our children. And I think you'll see these tests going forward. This idea that you don't want this type of curriculum in your school for what seems to be legitimate reasons. And so you will have to pay a fine. So you feel guilty. And so you don't to pay a fine. So you feel guilty. And so you don't feel like maybe we shouldn't do that. It's going to hurt our kids' education. These tests are going to be something
Starting point is 00:10:49 that parents unfortunately face a lot. It reminds me a little bit of this story about the school district in Utah. A liberal parent said, well, I think you should ban the Bible because the Bible talks about sex and the Bible has pornographic scenes. But it doesn't have pornographic scenes, I should say.
Starting point is 00:11:04 One of the state uh lawmakers who had been really pushing to keep uh lgbtq curriculum uh and again i should say sexually explicit uh curriculum out of school said well if this is the price we have to pay that's okay because i would rather uh make sure that your kids are protected even if that means they have to learn about the bible at home and i find it interesting that we're coming up against these tests pretty regularly right now. If we have to keep something out, what are we willing to do for that? I think a great tactic that I've seen a lot of parents do
Starting point is 00:11:32 is they try to go to the school board meetings and they try to read the book out loud. Yes. And they're stopped. I think DeSantis did it at a press conference and all the networks had to go to commercial break. Yeah. And that's just the most valuable time.
Starting point is 00:11:44 If I can't say this to you, and we we're all adults here if i said these things right now youtube would would find tim i mean it wouldn't find me so i guess i can go ahead and say them right i can drop the f-bomb it's not my show yeah exactly do whatever you want here and tim's not here so tim's not here who cares but i think that's such a valuable tactic like show how vile these things are and then and then stop hiding behind gay people to do it. Stop. It's pornography. It's either sexual exploitation of children.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Stop using gay people as your shield because you're a bunch of perverts. It's quite frankly very exhausting. I got to say, the book we have right here, I opened it to a random page. And just the first thing I saw was like i can't even describe it it was disgusting it's vicious it's it's really disgusting and so genderqueer is one example of this the other example we've brought up because we actually have the book here is this book is gay and this is a book that is in schools and school libraries and it actually explains how to sign up for gay hookup apps now here's the thing it does say oh these apps are for adults but hold
Starting point is 00:12:47 on a second this stuff the way smartphones work with their interface it's not rocket science adults can figure it out why is there a guide on how to sign up for these apps in schools where minors can check them out you don't put something in a book that a minor shouldn't know and then write, if you're under 18, don't read past this point or this section isn't for you. That's not how this works. And then they wink at you. They're like, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We're just going to put it here and let you make your own decisions. up and that i hear pretty frequently is you know uh people need to hear these things because it's we need to have a sex positive culture and we need to have a culture that uh you know these issues are life and death for some people because if you don't know you don't feel affirmed this that and the other then uh you know you're in danger of all kinds of terrible things and of course we want to live in a compassionate society but does that mean minors need to read sexually explicit content in schools no it doesn't well no but here's the thing they say we want a sex positive society what does that mean what does it mean what does sex positive mean they're trying to negate the purpose of sex by spreading perversion by definition they are sex negative the purpose of sex is unity and procreation if you're trying
Starting point is 00:14:03 to strip that away from it you are negating you are sex negative the purpose of sex is unity and procreation if you're trying to strip that away from it you are negating it you are sex negative what they're really trying to say is we want to spread perversion that's all that's all i think we're sexualized enough to society yeah yeah i mean you can't watch any commercial without it being you can't watch any music video minus a couple of country ones um uh you really can't watch much without it being about sex exactly how much of a pervert do you have to be to complain about the fact that there's not enough of it out there all the time and and should we be telling teenagers your sexual identity is the biggest thing you should know and identify and think about all the time right isn't there enough pressure as an as a young adult
Starting point is 00:14:39 to uh come of age and to to grapple with difficult life problems like do we need to say your libraries need to be stocked with this? Are you thinking about all the time when really we should be encouraging them to pursue their intellectual passions, to develop good moral character, right? Like there is no reason that this should be the number one conversation you have with your teams, no matter how you think their orientation will end up. Especially when you consider, and I hate saying this because I don't like to knock America. I love this country and i love the people in this country but i will say it bluntly especially when you realize
Starting point is 00:15:09 how ignorant our young people are oh yeah you can say poorly educated and they are you could just flat out and say dumb um like these are subjects that a we shouldn't broach them ever but if if all of our kids had straight a's and the then the school board was like well should we start thinking about other things but our kids are incredibly dumb yes like they they basically what you see the numbers 30 35 don't read at level can't perform math at level like most of them can't write or read script so you you scratch your head and say well we want our young people to be sex positive it's like i just like them to be literate first like can we just do the basics yeah exactly and any adult who like tells you they have this agenda like oh yeah i want this child to be really accepting of a lot of different sexual things like okay why because i've said this before on the show but we ask this question
Starting point is 00:15:57 as conservatives why do kids need to see that that's the wrong question the question is why do you need to show that to a kid why are you so invested in ensuring that a kid sees that? I think we all know. No kid likes to read about sex until they are a certain age. And I don't care if it's hetero, homo, it doesn't matter. They're introducing it to children at an age that it's so uncomfortable. And it should be uncomfortable. It's healthy. Like a nine-year-old should not be a sexual being.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And when they say, well, everyone is a sexual being. If you think a nine-year-old is a sexual being, you are a pedophile. You belong in jail. Yeah, absolutely. And it's different when you're talking about, especially guys, and they're hitting their hormones and they would read any book that's,
Starting point is 00:16:36 well, maybe not those, but they'd be more interested in sex books and sex talks. But the fact that we're doing this with six-year-olds and seven-year-olds is just so disgusting i would agree well i just want to mention one thing quickly even with what you're saying like when when kids go through puberty and they start noticing the opposite sex you're right that they have an interest there but that's also why you need to be even more protective at that point and ensure that they don't end up seeing disgusting things that are
Starting point is 00:17:02 going to pervert them because they'll'll end up going and seeking out material. And there's so much perversion online that they'll stumble into. The solution isn't like, well, let's show them the weirdest, grossest stuff we can find. The solution is educate them on the dangers of looking at pornography. Talk to them about the fact that researchers are discovering a strong link between pornography and impotence. You tell young men that, I promise you, that's going to to alter their behavior right uh people need to be protected from these things these things shouldn't be forced onto them but again i think we're all pretty clear on what the agenda is here we know why there's an interest on the part of so many people in this system
Starting point is 00:17:36 to get minors invested in this perverse content and it it's telling that the reason this school board rejected this content that california is trying to force on them is because it was covering the first elected gay politician in his 30s that's not a boyfriend it's a minor he groomed i haven't seen said chapter i'd love to know what the chapter was because that's what they're saying like this was a book that was explaining that harvey milk was killed in 19 whatever year it was um but i guarantee you it was not that you know and if you had a chapter of the 70s for 14 15 16 year old kids and you talked about unrest in the 70s famous people who were assassinated you can go through the list you can throw his name down because he was famous and he was assassinated but i would love to see the actual chapter what are they saying about his
Starting point is 00:18:35 life because i guarantee it was not that innocuous like we just mentioned that he was a gay politician who was killed i'm like oh no you didn't yeah no no you didn't did they make a whole movie with sean penn in it? Yeah. I don't think they mention any of that. Oh, there's a lot they'll fail to mention
Starting point is 00:18:49 in these different biopics they do about these perverse figures they celebrate. Wait, you think Hollywood would leave? No. Wait a minute. No.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I know. Well, I've mentioned before that there was a film produced about Alfred Kinsey where Liam Neeson played him. What? The person, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Oh, my God. Yes, Liam Neeson played Alfred alfred kinsey the person yes oh my god yes liam neeson played alfred kinsey in a film where they celebrate him as this heroist heroic like self-sacrificing saint scientist and you know he was just interested in studying sex in this puritanical society of course what they leave out with the fact is that he was complicit in the the sexual abuse of literally hundreds of underage boys, including infants. They don't mention the fact that in his published work, he said things that supported and endorsed pedophilia by saying that when a child is abused,
Starting point is 00:19:32 what really traumatizes them as their parents in his words, overreaction to it as if, as if you can overreact to something so horrible. It's, it's disgusting. They celebrate disgusting things. It's great to see this school board pushing back. It's kind of like when the left talks about Margaret Sanger
Starting point is 00:19:48 and they forget to mention that her purpose in starting this organization was to eradicate black people. Yep. And it's like, well, we just talk about it for women's rights. It's like, do you want the full story or not the full story? There was a video that I'm pretty sure Lena Dunham narrated. And it was like, here's the history on Planned Parenthood. And they got to the point about eugenics. And she's's like she was kind of involved in eugenics but we're
Starting point is 00:20:08 just gonna ignore that like what are you talking about this is crazy uh and i mean that's just the the the mission though if they can scrub enough of history and make it easier to digest through movies then you will learn to ignore these things in fact you will forget them and i think that's one of the best parts about this is not only is it a local community really advocating for what they want and what their values are but also saying like we aren't going to overlook this person's sordid past because you guys have refashioned him as a hero yeah absolutely and speaking with the problems that exist within modern education stanford law's equity dean is booted out after uh stoking woke students rude protest at a conservative judge who was invited to give a talk so a stanford dean who was slammed for letting students heckle a conservative federal judge before berating him
Starting point is 00:20:58 herself has left her role basically what happened was this judge came to speak on campus the students protested he went to basically explain that it was unacceptable that it was impossible to hear him because he was being spoken over and she went on to uh berate him so she has decided that she's going to be leaving her role as assistant dean for diversity equity and inclusion what are they going to do without her at stanford law school to pursue opportunity, the law school said in an email to its students Thursday. What do you guys think about this story? Do you think that they have more DEI coordinators at that school? Do you think she was the only one
Starting point is 00:21:35 or do you think Stanford has a couple? Well, I don't know if you know this, but there is a notorious shortage of DEI professionals in this country. We actually might run out of them, which is very frightening. It is scary. Because who keeps the country running? How do we keep any of this going without them? I mean, there are so many things to critique about the story.
Starting point is 00:21:54 First off, let's be glad to see the end of administrative bloat in universities. Famously, that's terrible for any function university. This particular story just makes me laugh. We're talking about a little bit beforehand. But the fact that this event, it was on March 9th, and this Trump-appointed federal judge, Kyle Duncan, came to speak. He was invited there by the Federalist Society.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He gets shouted down. He asks for an administrator. She comes in and is berating him, saying that he's hurtful and he's tearing the society community apart. Disenfranchising student rights. Right. But then afterwards. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I hate disenfranchising students' rights. But then afterwards, a couple students wrote for the Stanford Review saying she sent out an email beforehand engineering chaos. She came in with prepared remarks. They call. I really appreciate this from the students they called steve frown said you say you value free speech then you need to hold this person accountable because she intentionally went against it now of course this battle continued to be public uh and uh steinbach the woman involved wrote her own op-ed that the wall street journal published being like i was just there to de-escalate
Starting point is 00:23:05 of course i don't know what happened but it could not have been that i was at all inciting this uh and so you get these conflicting accounts and i find this deeply interesting she said that she was there to represent the student voices so they could stop shouting which means that like she came in with and started shouting yeah well well firstly of course she was just trying to calm things down that's what a dei officer does as a university at a university it's not about there and they try to divide people by their identity at all also i love this excuse i love this excuse this is golden this is like such an incredible attempt at spin i almost admire it when all the students were heckling this person and i went up there and began heckling them. It's because I was trying
Starting point is 00:23:45 to stop the students from doing it. I was trying to give them an outlet. This is what I have begun to call outlet theory. Basically what left-wing people will try to do to justify the normalization of bad behavior is they'll say this bad thing is going to happen anyway. So we need to give it an outlet. And of course, what you end up doing is encouraging it to continue to happen and you get more of it. And I think it's not surprising that this is the excuse you went with because it actually fits into the framework of a left wing worldview and the excuses they usually make. No, no. The only reason I was doing bad thing is because I wanted to give bad thing an outlet because I'm actually against bad thing on some level. It's totally incoherent. that she's diversity and inclusion and she seemed to lack both of those as her role right i mean there was no diversity in terms of intellectual diversity and what about inclusion you know whatever happened it's funny how you know when i was a kid they would say well if you don't like it turn off the channel or if you don't like it don't listen to that album and now it's the right
Starting point is 00:24:38 saying that if you don't want to go listen to this judge just don't go to the lecture it's not like he got surprised in a class that you had to be in rightly this was an event organized by the federal society for him to come to that everyone probably knew it was going to be this guy which is what made them want to go there right and not against the concept of protesting it just makes me crazy that the idea is that this person had to be completely shouted down rather than this institution supposed to be about learning and growth and having your ideas challenged. And this is manufactured protesting because we're all pretty smart. But the exception of this one, name another judge, right? Like name another
Starting point is 00:25:14 not Supreme Court. I can name them. Name a federal judge. I bet you none of us really could. So what college student is like, you're telling me Judgecan kyle is no like this isn't a name that is like it's all manufactured because he was appointed by trump it's all manufactured and i will say especially when you're in college like who's actually reading flyers you know like i certainly wasn't reading them or going to those someone manufactured this crisis and got all the kids whipped up and now the kids are all in a frenzy which is sad how much of lemming the college students can be so it's interesting then that of course the students point out that steinbach this this dei administrator sent out an email about this event it's almost like maybe she was interested in there being a protest so she could
Starting point is 00:25:59 have a nice she had him come down yeah she is actually did she arrange all this well Well, I will say, I think what I found the most interesting about the story, because this played out over a couple months, is that at least two federal judges said, we're adding Stanford to our no-hire list. We will not take clerks from Stanford Law, which means that every student at Stanford is affected by this. Of course, I assume there are conservatives out there at Stanford Law. I hope you're doing well. But it comes on the heels
Starting point is 00:26:26 of a different, similar event at Yale Law School. So there are now a stack of law schools that there are judges. And I think this is great. They're saying, I will not hire from your school. I do not like your school
Starting point is 00:26:38 and your student body's stance on free speech and diversity. And I do not like the way you're treating conservatives. That's unacceptable to me. You would not be a good fit for my office and again i think these these small changes this school district taking a stance these judges saying like we won't tolerate it of course some people suffer in the crosshairs i'm sure the young conservatives at yale and stanford are like well dang man yeah on the other hand, good for the judges for doing something
Starting point is 00:27:05 and not sitting around being like, well, we can't get involved. You know this, that, and the other. Push back. If they're going to try to use their leverage against you to undermine civil society, you've got to push back. Daniel, you mentioned something earlier, how the left always used to say, if you don't like it, you can change the channel,
Starting point is 00:27:19 and how they're hypocritical for not sticking to that. But I think what you're missing is what they were saying is, if you don't like it, you can change the channel. Those are the options that you have. When I don't like it, you change the channel. It's always been about dominance, right? Evil calls for tolerance until it's in charge, and then it demands your submission. Yeah, remember when the riots were happening in the Summer of Love?
Starting point is 00:27:40 And you can go back further, even at the Trump inauguration in 2017, to go off your point, Seamus, when a lot of mayors said, look, we're just giving them space to protest. And you're like, well, you're letting them burn the city down. We're just giving them space to protest. And that's what this was. That was what this diversity DEI coordinator was saying. I am just giving them a platform to express their ideas. And I partook of it because I wanted to try to control the violence and again if you give people a space to do if you give bad people a space to commit bad acts they will commit bad acts well and this
Starting point is 00:28:11 is part of what's so uh hilarious just about how quickly they expose themselves as complete and total unprincipled hypocrites i remember during the 2020 riots there were two things i kept hearing from left-wing individuals first thing writing is the language of the unheard okay so that's one quote let's all just keep in mind that's beautiful yeah isn't that thank you isn't that doesn't that just touch your heart poetry and then there was a second point that they kept making repeatedly i saw this all over twitter i saw left-wing people i knew saying this they were going well you know conservatives claim the point of you know 2a is to like fight back against tyranny and why aren't they helping us as we are here trying to fight back against tyranny so literally by the way
Starting point is 00:28:59 calling for insurrection right and then just a few months later on january 6th when we had conservatives rioting well all of a sudden the response was to make sure they were as unheard as possible many conservatives from social media banned donald trump ban donald trump the sitting president of the united states from one of the largest communication platforms in the world you're gonna tell me you thought writing was the language of the unheard and the way you get writing is by silencing people and then you silenced the person and then criticizing for not stopping it exactly and who you believe is the figurehead in in the voice of the people who were rioting and then all of a sudden insurrection became a bad thing that we weren't supposed to be in favor of and weren't
Starting point is 00:29:44 supposed to tolerate and we're supposed to be very against meanwhile just a few months ago on may 29th of 2021 left-wing radicals surrounded the white house broke down the barrier forced the president of the united states and his family into the presidential bunker and the entire media laughed about it and said it was so mean that donald trump cleared those protesters out of there before they tried to burn down saint. John's. Well, you're forgetting the most important verse in the modern religion, which is, it's okay when we do it, progressives 2316.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right. You don't understand. Yes. We got another sacred text. Because we are on a moral high ground, right? So when we say these people are writing because they're unheard, we are correct.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And when we're saying you guys are writing because you're evil and the devil, we are also right. There's no arguing there because there's no consistent logic and there's no consistent application of values. Yeah. It's funny that this decision came out today when there was that House hearing on censorship. And I'm glad there's hearings on censorship. There has to be more of a conversation about it, especially when you're in the college
Starting point is 00:30:43 level, right? If you're encouraging this type of behavior on what is supposed to be an academic environment to look at all ideas and discover knowledge, et cetera, you're doing your students a great injustice. And college kids are young. They may not be minors, right? Most of them are 18 and older, so they are legal adults, but they are very young and very impressionable. And it's a travesty to see, well, it's following up the earlier conversation, right? We're teaching our young children to be perverts, and we're teaching our college children to be dumb and closed-minded. And it's tragic because you have now a growing society of just dumb perverts.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Well, yes, no, yes, thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself and what i'll also add is that the two go hand in hand right i think a huge part of why they they want to erode these children's sense of identity and pervert them is one because again they want to reproduce themselves in some sense they want to make other people's children uh into perverts but on top of that if you get a person completely inward focused with their proclivities and their sexual tendencies it actually dulls their intellect and they're less interested in learning about the world and other people and they become a
Starting point is 00:31:52 lot less critical because they have to spend their life trying to justify something irrational so they don't become well practiced in applying rational principles to their life and so they become less interested in seeking the truth i'm not saying that everyone who does anything bad ever is going to be completely unable to see any truth. I'm just saying that these kinds of actions make it more difficult for a person to see reality. Well, I think when you encourage anyone to be a narcissist, you dull their senses to do anything else, right?
Starting point is 00:32:15 And if you tell people that smoking weed is the most important thing you could do or any other aspect, if you encourage narcissism in young people and you make learning is, well, look at the subject you know the line that's very common now is you know your truth your truth what is your truth and and so if if that becomes your your your compass uh then then yeah your senses are dull to any other objective learning or objective ideas and and then you become very angry and what angry people do they they burn and break things because they're they're dumb and and dumb people that's how they lash out it's it's kind of inevitable dumb and angry too not good combination of things to be yeah and an all too common
Starting point is 00:32:56 combination you know i mean there are some things that's worth getting angry about but man this is this is not necessarily just a smarter dumb thing it's also a virtue versus vice thing everyone can have a temper everyone can get angry the question is do you like rationally analyze the situation and one thing i'm really trying to promote here that we were talking about last night is the fact that the the battle between good and evil runs through every man's heart we can criticize these people for letting their temper get the better of them and doing horrible things but you got to ask yourself in my personal life do i get mad at the people i love for things that weren't necessarily their fault uh am i too quick to anger am i wrathful these are things we got to figure out for ourselves if we want to promote them in
Starting point is 00:33:33 society oh for sure yeah i think so i think the hard truth is that conservatives believe in emotional regulation in a way that is not true everywhere, right? So if you have this idea that I need to be aware of your feelings and be respectful of them, but I don't have to change everything about myself to make you happy, right? That has evolved to be a very conservative way of thinking. And I think there is endless pressure in different circles to have other people's feelings at the forethought of everything you do so much so that you are wired to seek approval from the group right and yes yeah that's a huge part of it in this story that we could like potentially whip a class of law school students
Starting point is 00:34:16 up into a fury over this this judge you're completely right they have never heard of this guy all they know about him is that he was appointed by trump yeah and that was enough for them to be like well if you're going i'm going i'm mad too and i'm definitely mine i'm mad genuinely i know no i'm very very mad like just i'm so angry picture the npc heads right just being like yes mad trump mad mad mad mad yeah that's that's very sad that these are our young legal minds right and i'm sure it's not everyone i don't again i feel bad for all the stanford law students who i'm just throwing out of the bus with everyone else but it is interesting that the idea that emotions come first and that compliance to the group and emotional satisfaction through that is right is the driving force that
Starting point is 00:34:59 should be unnerving to you yeah i mean they're not doing a good job teaching law students how to interact with the judge but continue i was gonna say well how many stanford law students were whipped up to this much frenzy that not very far from their campus are thousands of homeless people who are defecating on themselves totally stoned sleeping on the floor eating garbage being stepped over by society have they ever been whipped into a frenzy about those policies or and you can make a list of all this and there are a lot of things that you could been whipped into a frenzy about those policies? And you can make a list of all this. And there are a lot of things that you could get whipped into a frenzy about in society. There's a lot that's going wrong in society.
Starting point is 00:35:31 But yeah, to be whipped into this, this judge is going to speak, this judge I heard of four minutes ago. And yeah, how said it? I think the NPC character nodding is fantastic. All of them wearing the Stanford sweatshirt. Absolutely. One more point I'll make about this before we move on to our next topic just to piggyback off what you said hannah claire about these kids falling in line that's another huge part of this it feels good to be part of an in-group and so if you have spent your life habituating yourself
Starting point is 00:35:56 towards doing what feels good rather than what makes sense which is what we're habituated to do uh and what our educational system is actually promoting then you're not going to think to stand up against the group you're going to obey but our next story here florida's matt gates to introduce a bill defunding jack smith investigation targeting trump we must act so there's a bit of a follow-up on a story we told i believe two days ago where trump is insisting that he's going to be arrested at some point because of this investigation. But Representative Matt Gaetz announced Tuesday he would be introducing legislation in the House of Representatives to defund special counsel Jack Smith's grand jury investigation into the January 6th Capitol riot
Starting point is 00:36:36 and efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. I will be introducing legislation to defund Jack Smith's witch hunt against President Trump, Gates wrote on Twitter just hours after former President Donald Trump confirmed on social media that he had been notified he was the target in an investigation and expected to face an arrest and indictment. They are attacking our democracy and engaging in election interference right now. The United States Congress has the capacity to stop this election interference and we must act immediately, Gates added. So how do you guys feel about this? Are you happy with what Gates is doing The United States Congress has the capacity to stop this election interference and we must act immediately. Gates added. So how do you guys feel about this?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Are you happy with what Gates is doing here? Do you think this is the proper strategy to prevent something like this to occur? Does he have any other choice? And what do you think is going to come of the investigation into Donald Trump? We know they've been desperately trying to nail him on anything. Is this what they're going to finally be able to cook up some trumped up charges on? Well, Smith's been trying to get the trial moved aggressively to December, which would put him right at the heart of the beginning of the primary season debates. And people say, well, OK, there's no statute of limitation on this, quote unquote, crime.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So we don't have to do it. And, you know, we don't have to do it in December. We could do it in 2026. What's the rush to have it done now? And the rush clearly is to interfere with the election. So I don't think Congress has any other options, right? The other options are sadly, the riots, but I don't want that to happen, right? I don't want to see America devolve into chaos, but there are, the MAGA movement is big and they're not going to be quiet about it. And so
Starting point is 00:38:00 I think it's a first step of hopefully de-escalating what is otherwise an abuse of of the doj it's a clear violation or it's a clear interference in the election right and for the biden administration to say whoa hey look this is just the doj acting autonomously and independently and we have no comment carine jean-pierre is constantly saying i have you know ask them about it um i i think i think if this were happening in the congo we would laugh at it right when this happens in russia and vladimir putin's opponents all suddenly disappear right um or get arrested we laugh at it and so i i applaud them taking some action legally and they have the power of the person so this is their jurisdiction and i think we should see more of it yeah when i was reading the story today i guess i hadn't totally put together that uh smith is responsible not just for the january 6th investigation but he's also
Starting point is 00:38:49 the one leading the probe into the uh classified documents issue that led to the the raid on mar-a-lago you know trump just pled last month not guilty to 37 charges stemming from that investigation i can't help but feel like there's some kind of conflict that this guy who's already leading an investigation that is going to trial was like great so now that we've got those charges under we're starting another one here we go that seems like complete conflict of interest like why would we continue to to fund money towards this person exactly like what you're saying when it seems like there is a clear uh timeline issue you have to question intent when someone who could bring these try bring these charges later is like no but we have to question intent when someone who could bring
Starting point is 00:39:25 these try bring these charges later is like no but we have to do them now yeah and also now that i have some charges on table i want more exactly how will we know he's not going to open up a third investment this is yes they can do this all day long and so this is from uh gates.house.gov the power of the purse is not some intermittent thing that we wield every fiscal cycle it's something that we have to wield in day in and day out to achieve victory for our people and stop this i'm under no illusion that the democrats will bring such legislation up in the senate but the american people deserve to know where congress members stand i i think that's exactly right i think that's completely fair i
Starting point is 00:40:00 think that something does have to be done about this and you're right the timing of this investigation is more than a little suspicious. The idea that, well, this is the DOJ and they just have no common interest. Look, the Department of Justice said after Roe was overturned that they were going to essentially dishonor what the court wanted. They were going to make sure that these procedures were as protected as they possibly could be. They were also going to increase their vigilancy against the violations of the FACE Act. And what that ended up resulting in was trumped up charges against Mark Houck.
Starting point is 00:40:29 The idea that the left wing political apparatus isn't collaborating with itself because it has so much respect for the idea of checks and balances within United States government. When these people repeatedly say by any means necessary and that they're interested in the process and not the results isn't just hopelessly naive. It's actually cynical. These people know what they're doing. They know why they're saying the things that they're saying, and they're exploiting the American people's good faith. I remember back in 16 when there were all the Trump Clinton things breaking and there was Russiagate right in the pee pee tape and all that. And you always saw the name. You saw the name Peter Stroke.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And then there was Hillary Clinton, the 33,000 saw the name you saw the name peter stroke and then there was hillary clinton the 33 000 emails and you saw the name peter stroke and i remember thinking does anyone else work at the doj right like how come this one guy yeah and that's what i think of with jack smith now it's like everything is his case like doesn't the doj have 40 000 people who work there how come this one guy seems to be getting all the big cases to trump right now how come he never goes to a supervisor and all the big cases to trump right now how come he never goes to a supervisor and is can i just have something else off my plate i'm really busy these days delegate anything it's very funny how the same people get all of these cases i'm
Starting point is 00:41:36 sure it's just a coincidence it's just a coincidence that he's probably not definitely being like okay but what's the next thing i can bring against trump like it how is it not suspicious to people that the man is continually investigated by people who hate him and every investigation up until this point has shown that he was innocent, that he was not guilty of the thing that they were alleging and they just keep launching new investigations into him
Starting point is 00:41:55 and we're supposed to believe it's not politically motivated. It's insane. And I think there are a lot of cases of this right now where, you know, with this case it's the OJ, but there are a lot of attorney generals and Trump has experienced this with Leticia James in new york who will say we think you did something wrong give us all your private information and confidential data and we'll go through it and then we'll decide what charges we're bringing against you just as the founders intended just
Starting point is 00:42:17 as the founders intended this is this is the america they promised me right where you are so you are under investigation you are subject to subpoena you have to comply or else be brought up on some other kind of charges unless they decide they like you right like this is completely about political favoritism it's not about justice it's not about accepting that some people have different value they found a bag of cocaine at the white house but we don't know like who cares could be anybody's yeah george washington left that there no idea exactly and like it could be anybody's yeah let's find out who that makes it scarier it could be anyone at the white house this bag of coke who's doing this and shouldn't we be concerned that the secret service who's tasked with protecting the president can't tell
Starting point is 00:42:59 you where that came from that makes them terrible. And instead they're just like, okay, well, that's over. We don't know. It's funny, as that was coming out, I know we're devolving, but I had been in the West Wing a number of times when I was in the Bush administration. And at first they made it sound like
Starting point is 00:43:15 it was in this public door that everyone walks through. And she kept saying, Cree Jean-Pierre kept saying, it's a highly trafficked area. And then they narrowed it, narrowed it. And then when they finally confirmed where it was, you say like, you can't go. I couldn't go down there right no one can go she meant drug traffic it's so it's so funny and you can narrow the scope of who has access to that room and there
Starting point is 00:43:36 are actually a hunter biden shaped hole that's what the door is it's the only thing it's hard to say like the god-shaped hole i have in my heart there's a hundred shaped hole in the white house no it's just wild just hysterical and again i think that the biden administration should be embarrassed that they're sacrificing the secret service like you're you're saying as the president you're not concerned that the people tasked with protecting you can't figure out where that came from or else the obvious you know what i mean it's the same as the scotus leaker right yeah it could be don't go after him well okay it could be anybody but how many people see the the unredacted draft version of documents right everyone do you it's like yeah we know so everyone sees that everyone everyone know what the supreme court is doing so we know it's this
Starting point is 00:44:19 court now let's get going right so they make it sound like like why do you why do you treat us like children just stop pretending that we're dumb the american people i know i just called them dumb perverts when that's sad but but for the most part the american people are not that stupid well uh they lie we know that they're lying they know that we know that they're lying we know that they know that we know that they're like they still lie to us i think this was i think that was solzhenitsyn yeah oh yes yes it was the heart of everyone they continue lie to us i think this was i think that was solzhenitsyn yeah oh yes yes it was the heart of everyone they continue to i think i think on some level it's it it almost comes across as a humiliation ritual like you come on this is what you're going with you don't know
Starting point is 00:44:56 who belong to you're not going to investigate that um also i mean you just see how diametrically opposed the situation is with trump uh and joe biden or those two situations respectively trump has had every single element of his life turned upside down and had a flashlight shown on it and we have not found any illegal activity i say he might be the most innocent person ever i know and this is the thing when he first ran i liked him because of who his enemies were and he grew on me but i wasn't gonna say i know that this guy's innocent i know these investigations are phony when the russiagate stuff first came out and they made these announcements i went maybe i have no idea
Starting point is 00:45:33 let's see but then as time went on and i think i just assumed because he was running for office that he had legal skeletons in his closet because that seems to be a requirement in the united states right but as time went on and they kept launching these investigations i went oh my goodness this guy's squeaky clean this guy is squeaky clean now with hunter biden and joe biden we literally have whistleblowers at the irs coming forward two of them at once to say that the investigation into hunter was slow walked and that every effort was made to ensure that they weren't going to find anything and they weren't going to give him a conviction we had uh marjorie taylor green yesterday at the house basically speaking with one of these
Starting point is 00:46:14 whistleblowers and alleging that hunter was paying prostitutes with company money and then writing it off i mean you actually have red flags you even have smoking guns here when you look at what's on the laptop and there's there's not an investigation then when there is an investigation the lightest possible charges right yeah well i mean we all knew something was up as soon as they announced oh actually he's guilty and here's this deal that we gave him where no consequences this morning, I saw more ridiculous pictures surface of him. It's just desensitized to it now. It's complete arrogance on Hunter Biden's part.
Starting point is 00:46:50 First off, his dad has been in public office his entire life, and you're telling me this guy didn't think to file his taxes. Absolutely not. That's complete arrogance. The other thing is, with the whistleblower yesterday, and I just have to say this and I'll let you go, my favorite part was when he was talking to Mar marjorie taylor green he's like oh yeah yes we do believe at certain points he was uh he was uh paying for escorts and listening this way
Starting point is 00:47:12 and you know there's a ten thousand dollar golf club membership here we believe that's for a sex club like yes this guy feels as though no rules apply to him yeah and that's just insane that should tell you enough about the biden family i think it's impressive that that you're that you say like he should be filing his taxes i think he should not be taking pictures of himself doing blow with hookers how many how many crackheads do you think file taxes it's actually kind of impressive that he does that at all he's looking for that's true for write-offs and workarounds and stuff. That sounds like a bad joke. How many crackheads file their taxes?
Starting point is 00:47:50 How many? How many do you actually think do? He's incredibly wealthy. Someone else files his taxes for him, and he still couldn't do it. Meanwhile, he's got an entire laptop full of this disgusting stuff. The bar could not be lower for this person, and he still cannot meet it. And we're expected, as the public, to accept that he gets a different type of justice than everyone else i saw someone make fun of marjorie taylor green when she was holding up those photos and they
Starting point is 00:48:13 were pretty graphic and they were like hey hey what do you think this is kindergarten this is another part of it too so what routinely happens this is what routinely happens the democrats either in the left either do something disgusting or or introduce something disgusting into the discourse and then when we point it out they go why are you pointing at that disgusting thing like marjorie why'd you show that uh that's the president of the united states's son that's what he's doing there's also evidence of illegal activity here that should be looked into i think that's a good reason and i think it's important to grab people's attention about this stuff we know that if it was don jr we'd see all of that and far more um and so again every effort is made to spare these people every single effort is is is made to ensure there's
Starting point is 00:48:54 no accountability when you have them trying to put this pornographic content in schools whoever shows people that there's this pornographic content is now the bad guy even when uh we had a guest on and tim brought up some of the consequences of these horrific trans surgeries these bodily mutilations the response from the guest was a response you get from a lot of left-wingers which is ew why are you talking about this because you people have created this you've normalized this it's not the direction we want our country to go in and we should speak out against it yeah it's sickening uh it's sickening but there are some huh what are you laughing at just you're gonna interrupt me just
Starting point is 00:49:29 the rage in this room i feel like we all drink coffee right before we go i've been drinking i've been drinking coke not doing coke but and if i was doing it i would take photos and post them on my laptop and then leave it somewhere look all decent human beings who believe there are no consequences to their actions you know as as bad as the coke is and the hookers is and all the bad stuff there is nothing worse than sleeping with your dying brother's wife it's pretty bad that is the sign of the most immoral person you left the wife your wife and the mother of your children to hook up with your dying brother's wife and i say this often and it's cruel but i do i don't think bo uh biden died of cancer i think he died of familial shame because that is a disgusting family yes that is a disgusting family
Starting point is 00:50:12 and i couldn't embrace my son i love the prodigal son but i it would be hard to embrace your son and welcome him to the white house knowing that he is sleeping with your dying son's that is what do we know and as a close follow-up was Was he still alive, by the way? I'm saying it's horrible that it was the widow. Or dead son. Maybe he was already... It's still horrible. I just hadn't heard that he was still alive.
Starting point is 00:50:32 My close follow-up is impregnating a stripper and then denying the child's father and not letting them use her last name, even though that could benefit her in some circles. She got some art. She gave her some paintings. Some art. And he's going to pay.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And then her grandfather, the president of the United States, is going to pretend that he doesn't have one more grandchild than he does. This family is bizarre. Why is this our first family? Didn't Joe Biden's first wife die in a car crash or something weird like that? Well, he had three kids. I mean, I believe she could have really died in a car accident. It's a sad story.
Starting point is 00:51:06 It is sad. He's still a very bad and corrupt person. She did, but Joe Biden has also lied and told the story that the truck driver who killed them was drunk. Was drunk, but he wasn't. That's right. He said so many things that aren't true.
Starting point is 00:51:18 The family of that truck driver has sued the Bidens to make him stop saying that. And to this day, a lot of people say, maybe someone else was drunk in that accident. Who knows? But the truck driver from the forensic evidence, and at least the one the case was reported, was not the one at fault.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Now, accidents happen, and that's tragic, but because Joe Biden is such a corrupt, morally corrupt person. To lie about something like that is just. To become sympathetic. He went from having hairy legs to a drunk truck a drunk truck driver killed my wife and kid yeah because it makes him sympathetic it's sad and horrible enough that that happened well i was gonna say to lie about this this was when he was getting an he he was sworn in so he has he had three kids with his first wife his daughter died and then beau and hunter were both hospitalized and there were
Starting point is 00:52:02 images of him being sworn in for the first time in the hospital because that's how close this was to inauguration you mean to tell me you had the eyes of the nation on you i'm sure this story was everywhere and you think decades later you can just make stuff up like you have such a low opinion of the american people it's like yeah you know well so many stories he's made up i don't know if anyone's kept the full list but arrested going to see uh mel's nelson mandela grew up in the black church that's my favorite one he grew up in the black church and the synagogues and the synagogues and the synagogues he grew up in the black church and the synagogues that's an impressive guy services every weekend he went to catholic mess he went to friday services what a busy guy
Starting point is 00:52:39 oh and and back in the 1950s his father He and his father Saw two gay men kiss And his father said That's love son Yes that definitely happened That happened He brokered peace deals With Golda Meir When he was a law student
Starting point is 00:52:55 He was like You brokered peace deals With everything His family was coal miners He stole that from a great politician He had to drop out Because of the first presidential one He ever had Because he was like I was first in presidential one he ever had? Because he was like, I was
Starting point is 00:53:06 first in my class at law school. His son died. No. Bo died in Iraq. He stole that to Marines. I lost my son in the war. Wait, that's now what happened? No. He died of familial shame. I think he was inhaling, I think there was something
Starting point is 00:53:22 with the chemicals that were being burnt there. He developed burn cancer, possibly because of the burn pits that he was exposed to while deployed. But he came back to the U.S. and then was an attorney general of Delaware. Like, he did not die in the Middle East. I mean, it's still sad and horrible. So it's like, why embellish it? Why embellish a story like that? It's pathological.
Starting point is 00:53:39 There's something wrong with it. There's something wrong with the man. There really is something wrong with him. He has hairy legs. I got hairy legs. Again, we're with this caffeine rage from all of us i know the kids used to rub lotion on my legs also a bad sign also a really bad sign strange kids yeah lotion on don't let strange men don't let your kid run lotion on a strange man's legs but um yeah man that was that's definitely a bit of a black bill here we have have another story here, which is, I think, telling of some of the victory of Republican strategy
Starting point is 00:54:11 in getting the left to change course on their values, which is always a fun thing to see them forced into. As asylum seekers in cities care tops 54,800, Mayor Adam announces new policy to help asylum seekers move from shelters now this is the way the media frames this when you are on their side yeah exactly uh and they want to protect you if it was a republican doing this in a red state the story would be about how he was a horrible man who's forcing families out onto the streets new New York City Mayor Eric Adams today announced additional policies to help asylum seekers in the city's care move out of shelter and create critically needed space for arriving families with children seeking asylum. The city has made every effort to continue serving the more than 90,000 asylum seekers
Starting point is 00:55:00 who have arrived in New York City since last spring, but with an average of 300 to 500 people still arriving each day and more than 54 000 migrants still in the city's care new york city is at capacity having responded in the absence of state or federal action so uh y'all probably know at this point that another part of republican strategy recently which has actually been very effective has been greg abbott busing migrants up to these blue states and what the blue states are saying is this is cruel this is horrible you can't use people as pawns and we don't have the resources to sustain them yes i agree with all of those
Starting point is 00:55:34 things let's stop allowing that to happen at the southern border as well of course as soon as they have to see the economic consequences then it becomes a serious issue i love when they admit that there's just not room or resources for everyone in the world who wants to come here this is new york city this is an incredibly wealthy part of the country everyone's trying to leave these are the only people who seem to want to move to new york right now and new york is saying no go away we can't take care of you well if new york can't afford to take care of these people what about the impoverished border towns that are forced to, what do you guys think about this story?
Starting point is 00:56:08 Well, it's a great example of making them live out their, their values. And when your values are all are welcome and we will accept, we're a sanctuary city. It is just a matter of, of, of numbers,
Starting point is 00:56:19 right there. The, the productive acts of members of society produce the tax revenue, and then the government spends it. And when that becomes out of balance and it's becoming out of balance when you look at the exodus and i'm oh yeah you know my whole family is still in new york city i'm a proud new yorker although i live now on a farm in rural virginia as you all know and i talk about all the time but i mean new york city will always
Starting point is 00:56:37 be home and we're eighth generation seventh generation new yorker but but but the when you look at the exodus of people who are leaving like myself it's the it's the the producers it's the people and that people are you know they're trying to blame climate change but they're going to Florida and Texas I saw that recently actually I saw the climate climate changes please tell me please tell me how they're doing that was an article that was an article today I have to find it that was an article today about how climate change is driving a lot of the migration of of communities but they're all moving to arizona texas and florida and you're like well well maybe they want more heat i guess so it's kind of comical that that's the accusation they're making but the the value the the producers not to sound ian randian but the the people who produce, who produce in society are the ones leaving.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And the people who take, as crass as that sounds, migrants who come here with nothing, all they can do for a while is take. They need homes. They need shelter. They need food. They need healthcare. When that equation falls out of balance, you have Mayor Adams who ran his whole campaign about how he was a welcoming mayor.
Starting point is 00:57:43 All are welcome. All are welcome. are welcome it's a numbers game ayn rand put it the coldest maybe but but it is a numbers game and new york is suffering that numbers game yeah well i mean this is part of why what you just explained a moment ago about the fact that when people first come to the country generally they are going to be taking more than they're able to give this is why we had a system in place why we do have a system and why we're supposed to adhere to the system of sponsor families bringing people in. And then that family can help that person while they're in the country.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It's not all being paid for by taxpayers. And then that person actually has an incentive to get out on their feet because you don't want to be an adult or a person with a family living under someone else's roof, not contributing and not being able to get out of that situation because you haven't found a job. Like there's a structure in place to create the proper incentives for people who come here to start producing as soon as possible. But in the United States, there are two fundamental positions when it comes to immigration. There's the position that we should have laws in the position that laws are mean. And those are literally the only two positions, by the way, within position one that we should have laws.
Starting point is 00:58:44 There's a wide variety of different positions people have on what those laws should be. But the dominant view is it is mean to enforce those laws. How dare you suggest that they be respected? Yeah, it comes down to emotions and rationale. Yeah, for sure. I think I have a family friend who's a Greek descendant and tells the story about how Greek communities used to send someone over and they would someone it started with someone opening a retail business. I think it was a grocery store or candy store or something. And eventually they were able to then bring over someone else from the small town in Greece where they were from.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And eventually that person was able to move farther out and start a store and there there was a community support element so much so that she still attends a big family gathering now they're not all related but it's just sort of this community event of people who are descended from literally one town in Greece that's so cool to me and I find it interesting that we had systems that believed in support and mutual benefit. And instead, our immigration policy has gotten so deranged that we are saying you should illegally cross the border because Eric Adams will say, yes, I will help you. So you will elect me and I will look good. But actually, when it comes time, when push comes to shove, he is now saying suburbs of New York, Orange County, you guys need to house single migrant men in your hotels.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And if you don't do so, you're the bad guys. How are you not doing this? Somebody else's problem, not his. I invited people up here. I don't think I can handle it anymore. So now it's your job to start cleaning up because New York dominates the state. It's like throwing a party at someone else's house
Starting point is 01:00:18 and then leaving. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Or like being like, yeah, I have too many people coming to visit me. So they all are going to stay in your houses around me because I said so well at least if you invite me to your house i'm probably going to bring a bottle of wine yeah you know but but sometimes our are the folks that we're inviting to this this country bring nothing right but then they want legal substances like fentanyl or aren't invited like sorry on the list i have a pretty radical and environmental position and I am a no immigrant position.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I am not pro-immigration. People say, well, we need immigrants. Diversity is our strength. I love that. Then shouldn't New York want as many of them as possible? I am just as a flat out like, why can we not be closed? Why do we need any immigrants? And the people tell me that they provide this tremendous value.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I see them undercut wages. I see them as a drain on social systems, which I also oppose. I am a no immigration. I always say if I'm elected president, there will be no immigration for my administration. The president after me can change that. But we're going to go four straight years with no immigration. I think an immigration moratorium is a completely valid option because we are not just like struggling with this we are really in crisis and that is not okay i think this is i mean i've said before i think the open border puts the men and women and children who are
Starting point is 01:01:35 trafficked across in harm's way it hurts the border communities it hurts our country overall i think it hurts people who try to apply legally to come here it does i think ultimately we do a disservice by allowing immigration i would be for an immigration moratorium uh but i can understand when if you don't really read about anything and you're not super political you're not really into the news and you just hear sob story after sob story about how actually the people who say this are racist and actually they they are harmful to everyone you know i could understand where you would be misled and probably from a very sweet nice place of compassion it's just not accurate i'm also married to an immigrant i have to make that clear i'm a first generation american well i i want to
Starting point is 01:02:13 mention australian if that counts but i mean they're kind of american as far as a moratorium goes i i just like it's not one of those things where i go oh that's bad that's racist i just haven't seen the numbers to know whether that's necessary. I think if a moratorium becomes necessary, absolutely. I don't know the stats. I do know that we have had an unprecedented and unsustainable number of people pouring across the border. I think in an ideal situation, a country should be able to welcome immigrants who are coming
Starting point is 01:02:42 to try to make a better life for themselves. But it's important for political leaders to do the hard work of maintaining the standard of living for the citizens who were born there and who live there and not just allow anyone into the country when that is going to come at a tremendous burden for the population of that country there's a hospital near dulles airport port called i think's Stone Springs, that friends of mine who live in that area used to tell me. They have a sign outside for the ER, five-minute wait, four-minute wait. But now we train or we fly multiple flights per day of illegals, and we drop them off. And the first thing they do is they go to the airport.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And now the local community says the ER, or local hospital excuse me thank you um and now the local community says well now the er has a 15 18 20 25 and they're like what what's going on what well that's the result of unchecked immigration so exactly you don't have diverticulitis or a heart attack because your services are now severely encumbered well that's a reality that's not bad or good it's well it's bad but it's reality well okay and so it's this there was one time i think where you could have the left if they were remotely consistent or cared about the things they claim to care about you could even have the left making an argument for a moratorium and that was during covid people weren't allowed to go to work people weren't able to visit their loved ones in the hospital while they were dying people weren't able to go to the funerals of loved
Starting point is 01:04:06 ones because this disease was just too dangerous and everyone was going to die if it was allowed to spread but we were just letting people into the country it's like that's absolutely insane people don't have the freedom to go from their house to their job and you're saying people have the freedom to go come from anywhere in the world into our country when this is the time of a pandemic i mean i'm not asking for a moratorium i'm just asking for laws to be followed this is crazy that we're even having this debate what the discussion should be about is what are the immigration laws instead our discussion is should we follow them should we enforce the immigration laws we have that's totally insane we didn't even force vaccines on the illegals we didn't if you migrated legally you had to take the covid
Starting point is 01:04:46 vaccine but if you cross the border illegally you did not have to this is craziness and again it only punishes people who try to operate in a respectful way to our laws which i find to be abhorrent like why are we allowing this and i i just think you know the the fact is you can't have a logical conversation about immigration because people feel uncomfortable talking about implications of race or diversity or whatever else and that's fine you try to do it in a respectful way but if you bear out the numbers like one of the examples i was reading recently is that uh tech job uh salaries have been stagnant for a long time and part of that is because we actually have an oversupply of workers because
Starting point is 01:05:22 of h1b visas uh if we didn't have that we would have an industry that becomes competitive again i find it interesting that people can't bear out that like immigration has consequences for the population and sometimes we have to say no and it's not out of hatred it's just out of protection for it's out of love everything you immediately like the basic human goodness and decency wants to be able to say like what seamus was saying like yes we would like people to be able to come to this country like everyone did originally and if you don't do it the right way though we can't possibly be able to say okay well how do we make that work because we don't
Starting point is 01:06:01 have like the numbers and the balance sheet to make everything make sense and if we have like you know it just we have to have numbers and stuff on that and no one knows those numbers right they're all made up so this is this is this is a a point that i made years ago i remember i was out to dinner with a group of friends probably about eight years ago now and this was when uh a shooting had happened in paris there was a radical theocratic islamic extremist was that the charlie hebdo it may have been i think it may have been i i can't remember the particulars of the situation but i remember we were out to dinner i got the news notification you know i looked at the article and went oh my goodness this is horrible and a girl that i was out to dinner with with my friends uh who I hadn't met before, she said, you're only upset about it because it's happening in the first world.
Starting point is 01:06:47 And I said, horrible things like this happen in the third world all the time. And when they start happening in the first world, which is anomalous in the sense that it is the first time in history we have had this much wealth, this much peace, this much strength in terms of law and order, at least in certain countries we did. And when we chip away at that, it doesn't make the third world better. It just means there are now fewer places in the world where people aren't being killed by these rogue theocrats. And so what leftists will do is they'll say, OK, well, you know, your country is very wealthy and you're upset about these bad things happening in your country, but you're not concerned about what's happening in the migrants' country or why they need to come here.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Okay, but here's the point. If the way of life that we have here is eliminated, it's not going to come back. It's very likely that it won't come back for a very, very long time, and it's not going to make life better for the people in these countries that they're trying to escape. There's just going to be nowhere left to run to. You up a great point and i agree with everything you say i'm just impressed at your kindness because my answer to that is yes yeah like i am concerned it's
Starting point is 01:07:53 happening yeah absolutely because if no that's what i said i'm not concerned about it yes who's concerned about my country right if you say you have to be concerned about what's happening in rwanda okay well rwandans are worried about that and now we're worried about that who's responsible for working worrying about what happens in america yep right nobody if someone has and i love how leftists just can make accusations like that you're only concerned because it's happening in your country damn straight yeah well it's like yes i live here yeah i really like it here no you're only concerned that your mom has cancer because she's your mom. It's like, yes, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But this girl that you were at dinner with, I bet she said that to you. No, hold on. It was a group of us. I was not like on a date with this girl. Okay. I just want to be clear. Seamus has never been on a date in his life. Not once. Not a single time.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Not a single date. I want you all to know. Not with that kind of woman. Oh, I know girls who would date you very gladly. No, I was, I'm honest again, not liberal, but here's the thing. If they're liberal women. I love this. No, no.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Stop talking. I'm done with this. This is, this is a love doctor with Seamus Coughlin. But what I'm going to say is this girl who you were at dinner in a group with turned to you and said this because she feels as though she has to knock you out of bed. Do you think this girl thinks about the third world ever? Except for when it comes to you? No. Except for one news update.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Ask her to say I should have told her to finish her dinner because there's starving kids in Africa or something like that. Hold the mom line out on her. Ask her to name one outlet in a third world country. Ask her to name one newser, one journalist, one political leader. She could not do it. She only said it to make you feel bad. Yeah. Which is disgusting.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Well, fortunately, it didn't work. No, it didn't. It didn't work. And I don't think she was expecting the response that she got. I mean, there wasn't a second group dinner. We were literally out for a friend's birthday and it was one of her it was it was one of her friends it was an interesting conversation anyway so the left i'm so excited the left has a law and order problem and they have a law and order problem when it comes to
Starting point is 01:09:40 people entering the country illegally when it comes to people committing violent crime when it comes to groups that they consider to be marginalized or oppressed but then they become proponents of ruling with an iron fist whenever it comes time to prosecute somebody on the right or who has done something that the left accuses a threat to their power so a judge has denied a bid by q shaman to toss out his january 6th conviction a federal judge thursday denied a bid by Q Shaman to toss out his January 6th conviction. A federal judge Thursday denied a bid by January 6th rioter, Jacob Chansley, better known as the Q Shaman.
Starting point is 01:10:11 They're calling him QAnon Shaman. It's Q Shaman. Okay. To vacate. Why would you know that though? To vacate his conviction in light of footage, not incoming investigation. You know,
Starting point is 01:10:24 this is I'm done for now. HC. Sorry. To vacate his conviction in light of footage now incoming investigation you know this is i'm done for now hc sorry um to vacate his conviction in light of footage from the capitol that day aired by x fox news host tucker carlson chansley who stood out from the january 6th crowd for wearing face paint and a horned headdress actually thought he fit in pretty well i don't know if he stood up during the riot pleaded guilty to obstruction and was sentenced uh in november 2021 to 41 months now this is something i want to mention i was obviously being a little tongue-in-cheek there what happened on j6 was on one side of the building you did have people who broke through the window and broke in and the other side of the building the police literally opened the doors and
Starting point is 01:10:57 let people in so you had just a lot of regular people who were there as protesters who were walking through and uh were catching charges because of it it's crazy there was actually a judge who had to let somebody off because the footage that they had of the event proved that he basically went and told, spoke to a police officer and he wasn't told that he couldn't leave. In order to charge someone with trespassing, they can't think that they're allowed to be there. But of course, we know that the left, they don't care about law and order at all. And that goes in two directions. That goes A, in the direction of not prosecuting people who are breaking the law and of course prosecuting people who didn't break the law and refusing to exonerate someone even when footage comes out showing that they were
Starting point is 01:11:35 not guilty of the crime of which they were accused now that said in this particular story i can't give you all the intricacies and details. It's possible that they still had something on him. But overall, with the pattern that I've seen with these hearings, they're all too willing to be as harsh as possible on people who really down the barricades at the white house being arrested there was not an investigation into the 2020 riots despite a majority of the american population wanting investigations according to polling data far more people than wanted investigations into january 6th because the j6 you know investigations were not about protecting the american people or our democracy they're about protecting people in power and having you ignore the fact that cities were literally set on fire and allowed to burn for several months at a time well it is a crime to withhold exculpatory evidence and that's what the j6 committee yeah that's true did and and if if that had been extended to other famous cases you think of
Starting point is 01:12:38 hands up don't shoot you think of uh of of kyle rittenhouse right when evidence comes out different angles different cameras different footage and you get to paint the whole picture it somehow changes the verdict a little bit because the jury sees everything there was no jury obviously in the j6 trial but the fact that they withheld all of this and obviously this footage wasn't brought into jacob chansley's uh It's shameful for the judge, right? And it's shameful for Benny Thomas and the entire J6 committee and all the people who partook of it. That's why the Republicans turned so much on Liz Cheney,
Starting point is 01:13:16 why they turned so much on Madeline Kinzinger. Not because they were part of J6, but because they knew that they were withholding evidence like this. They knew that they were withholding evidence like this. They knew that they were withholding crucial pieces of data to tell the full story and wanted to for, you know, to add Trump. And that's,
Starting point is 01:13:31 that's an unforgivable crime. Yeah. I mean, I think you're right. This is a complete perversion of, of justice. I do remember reading that story. Now that you mentioned it,
Starting point is 01:13:40 that evidence was actually withheld. I mean, again, these people care nothing for rule of law. They don't care about the process they care about the outcome yeah the evidence that tucker showed of the capitol police walking jake i saw that yeah walking him up the stairs the door was locked they found another door they opened up the door they walked him to the floor of the capital gave him a back rub brought him hot cocoa yeah he gave his prayer thank you lord god almighty
Starting point is 01:14:02 for the united states senate thank you for the the Capitol police who are keeping us safe. And then they walked him out and he went home. Yep. So again, people could say, well, he still broke the law by being there. But that really changes things a little bit from the narrative that they showed at J6. Well, yeah. I mean, it's hard to say that somebody is a trespasser when police officers literally walk them through the building and tell them that they can be there. I i mean you would have thought if he was doing something illegal they would have
Starting point is 01:14:28 perhaps been the one to notice it yeah it's kind of crazy i know that's a crazy expectation the police were in on the insurrection yeah but why aren't they getting brought up on truck well because if that evidence had been showed who were those cops those cops now have to testify why did you walk jacob chansley and we already get an order did how did you think and we already made the capitol police the heroes of this story right yeah i mean so unravels unravels i was um i got the chance to sit in on opening uh on when we did opening statements for the proud boy trial this group of guys that were uh selected by the u.s government to represent the masterminds of the conspiracy right because there were a couple people who they like swapped in and out at the last minute it was it was crazy uh but one of the things that i remember the most
Starting point is 01:15:09 and i wrote about it for timcast news if you want to find that article uh is uh thank thanks thanks uh was that the u.s government first and it was like here is a clip of text messages they're having or here is a video or here is a voice moment and then all you know each each man was represented by their own attorney so there were a lot of attorneys they had lots of lots to say but most of the time they just expanded it instead of taking one tiny clip like the u.s government they're like here is the context of what they're saying and it was very difficult to believe one of the attorneys there said it best uh these men couldn't organize uh ordering as a group from McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:15:45 You think they organized a conspiracy? But the fact of the matter is, you know, the U.S. government, really the American media, needs someone to take the fall. They need to have whipped the people into a frenzy, and they cannot say that there was no one at fault here. And that, to me, is disturbing, right? Because we are not carrying out justice for the people. We are carrying out justice for these corporations and the administrative bloat that says we did the right thing and we will prove it to you with our own tools.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Well, even the whole narrative surrounding January 6th and the idea that it's an insurrection is so unbelievably ridiculous. These people were grasping at any straw they can possibly grab out to try to indict and criminalize uh donald trump or prosecute donald trump make him out to seem as if he was trying to subvert a democratic process when in reality they were doing that with this fraudulent nonsensical investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election and his collaboration with them when you actually look at the narrative what they're effectively saying is that Donald Trump, the commander in chief. The president of the United States, the most powerful person on theers to go inside of the Capitol and not do anything violent. What?
Starting point is 01:17:12 It was a great plan. An incredible plan. He literally said, go have your voices heard. He didn't tell them to be violent. He told them to be nonviolent. He told them to go protest. Not break in, but even so, even so, if he had some kind of secret dog whistle that only the other conservatives could hear, and that's why they went in there,
Starting point is 01:17:33 it seems like a pretty lame thing to dog whistle when you're trying to overthrow the United States government, to get a group of people. I mean, it's the most, it really was a mostly peaceful insurrection. It was the only person who was harmed, the only person who was harmed was one of the protesters, ashley babbitt that woman was that woman was killed that woman was killed if someone was killed at a blm protest they would be a martyr for the country i'm not kidding we would have statues of them we would have statues of them the police officer who shot them would be locked up we would melt the key down and then pour the metals it was made of
Starting point is 01:18:03 down the drain yeah i mean i think you're right so i'm desperately digging in my backpack because i have a relevant note looking for a point looking for a point to me well i i someone told me that there was another protester at january 6th who um had a heart attack and then later died i heard but we don't hear his name so i'm just trying to see if i can pull it well no one quote me on this well but well i mean i'll give you a second to find those, but this is something we always saw. I think that person
Starting point is 01:18:28 was still on the mall, actually. Yeah. If my facts are right, I think that person didn't even make it to the Capitol, and I think they were older. I think they were...
Starting point is 01:18:36 If Kevin Greeley has a name, nobody quote me on this. Nope. Media. I'm just looking back at my notes. The media. But it is interesting
Starting point is 01:18:43 because people did suffer because of these riots. And the representation is that they were all armed and dangerous and crazy. And Donald Trump sent them there. And meanwhile, the video showed these supposed leaders saying, no one go in. Don't go in there. Like, this is the worst insurrection ever. If the leaders who apparently conspired to do this are telling you not to go in there that's a really bad idea that's a really bad interaction i just don't understand
Starting point is 01:19:09 and and especially because we did not see the same kind of uh vicious pursuit of people who really did burn businesses in the summer of 2020 how can you say that this is worth spending i'm gonna go back to our first story uh millions of dollars investigating right how become we don't have a system of justice that represents people outside of washington if you were an american voter and you had a business that burned in in minneapolis or in any major city and you know that they just said we're gonna let them go they didn't feel hurt and it's okay but because it happened to us the federal government we are going to use the full weight of our purse strings to go after these people that's exactly right fast it shifted focus from like everything else they were going after trump for and then all
Starting point is 01:19:53 of a sudden like i was watching it live and i'm like okay so now this has happened everything else was forgotten about essentially yeah and the main focus and a show trial on this for the next however many years yeah and all for what like it's crazy absolutely one thing uh all hc over there mentioned that i want to touch on was that there were there were people who who passed there and what ended up happening is there were people who didn't die at january 6th but died later yeah and then it was like covid19 where we just said they died with january 6th yeah and it was like because of at January 6th, but died later. And then it was like COVID-19 where we just said they died with January 6th. And it was like, because of January 6th that they died, even though they died a significant amount of time later.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I mean, what a ridiculous way of measuring the mortality of an event. Did we do that for the BLM riots, by the way? Did we consider any of the people who committed suicide or died because their business was burnt down? Did we keep track of whether that happened to add to that death count? No, of course not. any of the people who committed suicide or died because their business was burnt down did we do we keep track of whether that happened to add to that death count no of course not because they were again they were grasping at straws to make it into something that it wasn't kevin greeson is the name i was looking for okay uh no i just i think that you're totally right thank you i think
Starting point is 01:20:58 it was and i remember this feeling so so the night of all of this i was actually um working on like an old house that i was flipping and i remember i have such a vivid night of all of this i was actually um working on like an old house that i was flipping and i remember i have such a vivid memory of listening to this on my phone and like throughout that day because i was um i was new to hanging drywall and i was doing the thing where you like put up the joint compound on the tape you have to scrape it off and i'm not great at it but i remember listening to this and just thinking like the hysterics that went on in congress afterwards thinking like you guys didn't care when this happened to your constituents. You did not care when this happened to Lucas Norris.
Starting point is 01:21:29 It's not that, you know, any riot is necessarily okay. It's just that there's no equity in the justice here. There's no belief that because it happened somewhere else, it's just as valuable as when it happens in dc the the hysterics have to have a consequence because if you're a member of congress and your currency is politics then words have to have uh objective value and truth and so when you have people like congresswoman ocasio cortez who i know is an easy punching bag um and i hate to pile on but when she says to ted cruz like you almost had me killed on january 6th then you find out wait like a cop showed up to your office and said hey are you okay and your your office is for and if anyone's been to the capitol grounds and i used to work on capitol hill your office is
Starting point is 01:22:15 nowhere near the cap i mean it's the capitol complex but it's it's far you can't even hear the the january 6 riots from her office and you say well there's a value that there's there has to be a consequence i don't know if it's censure i don't know if it's what but when you when you foment hysteria and you pile on and you say i was almost killed on january 6th and you say well you're only doing that to throw fuel to the fire and that's dangerous but our politicians do this all the time well again when trump and his family when the literal president of the united states and his family were forced into the presidential bunker, that was hilarious. Everyone was joking about that.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Who cared? It was actually really the only condemnation we got was the condemnation of Trump for actually clearing the protesters away and then going to the historic St. John's Church and having pictures taken. Everyone freaked out about that. How could he do that? He's holding the Bible. He's holding the Bible. He's holding the Bible wrong. He's holding the Bible wrong. He's holding the Bible as if rule of law is compatible with Christianity.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I'm loving the head shaking. That's what they do. They go... Alright. They do what, Seamus? I'm not doing it on camera, I'm avoiding it. No, do it. Do it. Hannah Clare, you need to stop derailing right now. What? Or we have to get a really good segue?
Starting point is 01:23:32 Quiet. The next story today um speaking of segways here's my next segue in my next story the girls are gonna set them up with about his segways they'll love this segway are you kidding me somebody's to make a super cut of my segways they're all really good asking for attention on the internet don't tell the girls about that either. Listen, I don't have to ask for it. I get it. Louisiana lawmakers overturned governor's veto on gender-affirming care ban for transgender minors. Now, ladies and gentlemen, you all know how I feel about this exact kind of framing. Gender-affirming care ban, firstly, it's child mutilation, okay? It's also ABC News. It's ABC News.
Starting point is 01:24:00 No, I don't expect anything better, but sometimes it's fun to read these articles so that we can not only give people the truth, but show them how the media lies in an exercise of sorting through the nonsense. Right. And no one can claim that we only use one side because this is your bizarre article. That's right. Put that in my dating profile, Anna Claire. Baton Rouge, Louisiana's Republican-dominated legislature overturned Democratic government
Starting point is 01:24:20 John Bel Edwards' recent veto of a ban on gender-affirming care for transgender minors on Tuesday. Louisiana, where the ban is scheduled to go into effect on January 1, 2024, will join 20 other states that have enacted laws restricting or banning gender-affirming care, which includes puberty blockers, hormone treatment, and gender reassignment surgery. So hold on a second. Hold on a second. Includes gender reassignment surgery? I thought that never happens to minors ever. It's not crazy. Most of those states face now lawsuits.
Starting point is 01:24:50 And that's just not good writing. I would write now face lawsuits, but am I wrong here? Most of those states face now lawsuits. That's a typo. Yeah, that's just ABC. You should be ashamed. And in some places, the bans have been temporarily blocked by federal judges. How do you guys feel about this?
Starting point is 01:25:08 Huh? This overturning of this legislation. I mean, it's sick. The media comes to their defense. They call it care. One article I saw about this, and I see this,
Starting point is 01:25:17 see this periodically. Whenever Republicans do literally the only same thing you possibly can do and say, don't mutilate children is Republicans are trying to restrict transgender youth from receiving healthcare as if the Republicans are going you want your kidney removed and replaced but you're transgender!
Starting point is 01:25:36 Like no, they're saying you can't mutilate a kid because that's not actually healthcare. I would love to ask John Bell Edwards, the governor who tried to overturn this, who vetoed this law, and I'm glad he was overturned. I just have a quick question. Since you are not up for re-election, actually the gubernatorial race is happening already in Louisiana. He's served his two terms. John Bel Edwards has been fairly conservative Democrat,
Starting point is 01:26:08 but now is he auditioning for a role hoping that Biden wins reelection? Does he want to be a cabinet secretary? Is he auditioning for ambassadorship somewhere? I mean, he's clearly looking for his next gig and he says, well, heck, I'm a Democrat. I have to start doing Democrat things because if you ask the people of Louisiana, I think their legislators represent them. Louisiana is is a fairly conservative state very red state america is a fairly conservative
Starting point is 01:26:30 country that's right and no one supports this and so i just curious that john bell edwards would veto this i just wonder what he hopes what is it what role is he auditioning for um probably secretary of energy you know i mean he's from big oil and gas state i assume jennifer granholm one of the the dumbest members of the cabinet and that's a really low bar have you met pete buddha judge um so i assume he's trying to audition for a cabinet role and he was like maybe if i support the trans agenda biden will give me give me a job so um shame on john bell edwards but unsurprising at the end of the day, a Democrat's going to Democrat. Yeah, I mean, it's especially important to point out that he is out of time in his state government. Like he's already been the governor unless he's going to try and run for Senate, which I don't think he could get elected from from Louisiana.
Starting point is 01:27:15 There's no room to go except to join the Biden administration if there is a second term of the Biden administration. You know, I love these stories because I like to see our laws at work, right? Like it is interesting that Louisiana's lawmakers said, no, we don't want this. And he was like, I'm going to do it anyways. And you're like, no, you're not. And I think that that must be a real victory for the residents of Louisiana
Starting point is 01:27:40 who voted for their state leaders to come up and be brave because it is not an issue, even in red states, that people typically want to talk about that feel comfortable rejecting. Because again, the language around it is so much like you are voting against giving trans children orthodontia or basic health care.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Until you read the second paragraph and it's like, oh my God. Yeah, exactly. What is this? Exactly. second paragraph and it's like oh my god yeah exactly what is this exactly and i think that's like the strangest thing which if i were to say to you conservatives voted to protect uh at-risk youths from undergoing unnecessary medical procedures you'd be like oh wow cool that seems like it could be good mentally unstable youth yeah permanently scarring yeah right vulnerable populations which you tell us over and over and over again are subject to all kinds of mental health risks that you know other people are not should not be experimented on if i told you that you would agree with me but if i soon as i tell you i'm a conservative i'm against letting minors undergo hormone and and in surgery
Starting point is 01:28:45 then you're against it that's bizarre that's bizarre i have a question i got a question for you remember how you just said um you died with covid you died of covid and they consumed everyone with covid and you died with january 6 and died of january 6 since all the data shows that that minors who have this this mutilation done to themselves, their suicide rate goes up, should they be considered died of trans surgery or died with trans surgery? Yeah, died for. So I've looked, there's a bunch of different, ooh, died for, man.
Starting point is 01:29:16 There's a bunch of different studies that I've seen on this, and some of them will claim that, oh, when you do these interventions, you actually see a decrease in suicide rate. I've into those studies the ones that i've seen are pretty nonsensical um there's a study that i won't even get into pulling well maybe i will so there was there was a a survey done in 2015 of like 27 000 transgender people but the way it was done was by reaching out to advocacy groups and then having those groups find people to answer these questions so rachel levine was was interviewed in casting yeah so so basically what ended up happening was this data was parsed through by jack turbin of stanford university and they released
Starting point is 01:29:58 this statement about they released this study based on this data just, I think, a year or two ago. And they said, look, this study proves that health outcomes and life outcomes get better for people. Because what we actually were able to do with this study was measure trans youth who got health care. And I hate the term trans youth. I just say transgender identifying. Yeah, transgender identifying. Yeah. And we saw the ones who could get who could get the hormones and and um the puberty blockers and those who couldn't well and we found the life outcomes were better
Starting point is 01:30:30 for the people who were able to get these puberty blockers well there's several issues with that which is firstly one of the reasons a person won't qualify for these treatments is because they have significant mental health issues to the point where that doctor doesn't feel comfortable giving it to them so in the group of people who weren't able to receive the treatment, you would already expect for there to be worse mental health outcomes. And none of that was normed for them. And also what the study did is they took men taking estrogen and women taking testosterone and lumped their results together as if that's the same kind of treatment. So what they did end up finding was that one of those groups had their suicide rate go up after they
Starting point is 01:31:05 started taking hormones and the other didn't, but then they just squished it all together to hide that and make it seem like taking those hormones is better for you. There's also a bunch of other issues with that survey. There's a bunch of other issues with the other studies they claim. There have been, I think, the most credible and reliable studies that have come out about this. And again, I'm not basing this on liking the results, but I'm talking about studies that have looked through actual medical data in Nordic Europe have found that there's actually an increased suicide rate. Once you get far enough out from the surgery, about 10 years, you see a massive spike. This stuff isn't good for people. Even the studies that purport to show that suicide rate or life goes down or life outcomes increase will
Starting point is 01:31:46 show it occurring to like a very marginal degree that doesn't even put that person in line with the rest of the population. So you end up engaging in this mutilation for a very slight, even negligible benefit. But again, that's a slight or negligible benefit within like a year or two, often based on small sample sizes and poorly collected data that doesn't go all the way out to that 10 year mark where more credible studies have shown the suicide rate really increases it's very hard also to survey people who committed suicide yeah yeah notoriously not and that's why so there was uh there was a study out of exactly there was a study out of sweden that went over hundreds and hundreds of different people's
Starting point is 01:32:24 medical histories uh and and they different people's medical histories. And they compared people who had been diagnosed with dysphoria, who received treatment for dysphoria. Or in other words, I shouldn't say treatment for dysphoria, who had these mutilating interventions, those who didn't. And then the general population and what they found out just by looking at those those medical records was that hospitalizations for suicide doubled among the people who had received the intervention so we're going to go to super chats now so i want you all to smash that like button and share this video if you enjoyed it join us at timcast.com join as a member to watch the live show where viewers will be calling in and speaking to us live it's also uncensored so we get to say all the things that we want to say here, but don't get to because of YouTube.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I'm not your buddy, guys. That's why Carter's so quiet. I've been holding in words all day, and I can't wait to just let them all out. Let them all out. You have to come to the after show now. Carter's going to get wild. I'm going to get wild. I'm not your buddy, guys.
Starting point is 01:33:16 He says, now more than ever, we need to lock shields with Trump. We cannot allow corrupt, evil, deceptive traitors dictate who can or cannot be elected also yes there are many traders who are aiding in the west's controlled demolition ooh spicy agreed how do you guys feel about that uh yeah i agree yeah i agree okay um raymond g stanley jr says seamus did you see mary's interview with knolls how dare she i did and that was i didn't see the whole thing why would i watch all of that but i saw a clip of it i saw the moment where she smeared me and it was unbelievable um i gotta see that you really don't you really don't i would advise people not watch it uh it was it was it was behind the paywall and that they have you want to
Starting point is 01:33:58 see you want to see the tim cast conversation behind the paywall okay yeah that's true i think his audience was disappointed that she was there instead of me and may i say opened ian's that is how she opened and then they they lobbed some completely unfounded accusations at me you watched the whole thing no no no no i i just i tell like how could i sit through that people sent me clips they said look at these horrible smears and may i say ian's transition of my SC to ask about pardoning everyone was masterful. The vague didn't let down with the answer. Wonderful. Ian had some fun transitions.
Starting point is 01:34:31 My favorite was he was talking. I can't even remember now. And then all of a sudden he goes, how do you feel about colonizing Mars? And I just thought there is no one like Ian Crosland. Let's check this out. To his credit, Vivek just roll with it. Vivek did a great job. I thought it was a great interview with him.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Satasha Katergator, oh boy. She said, finally, I have a chance to tune in to Timcast this week. While I made a public apology to Seamus for accusing him of stealing spoons, Michael Knowles convinced me this morning that Seamus is at least stealing
Starting point is 01:35:04 something. Yeah, apparently a lot of free rent out of your head. That's a good one. Thank you. It's unbelievable. All these criticisms, all these attacks. I'm sick of it. I'm exhausted. He has such an evil villain energy right now. I wish you could see it. He's like, they're making me
Starting point is 01:35:20 struggle with their accusations. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do this. I wouldn't. You guys know me. I wouldn't do that. i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do this i wouldn't you guys know me i wouldn't i wouldn't take i wouldn't do that i wouldn't do something like this i wouldn't take tim spoons it's i wouldn't you know me i wouldn't do that i haven't seen any spoons around here though yeah then where then then where would i put them if i took them oh my gosh are you the leak carter because i will freak out i have two forks in my studio oh so you're not weighing into this debate at all.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Other than to say there are no spoons in our office. Well, I'm kind of insinuating that maybe he took them, but I don't have any proof. Okay. I wouldn't do that. One evil chef said, I would like to take a libertarian stance in today's culture. Drop the drinking age to 18. You should be young, dumb, and learn your lessons. Raise the voting age to 38.
Starting point is 01:36:03 You shouldn't control lives until you learn slash survive 18 look i i'm certainly not opposed to raising the voting age uh i also this is an interesting thing people will talk about the fact that in europe the drinking age is much lower i think in a functional country you can and do have a lower drinking age you're you're an adult at 18 you should be able to drink however we don't raise virtuous adults who can handle anything let alone their liquor today so i kind of understand why it's at 21 well and i think our 18 year old uh limit is weird like a lot of european countries have a graduated system so you could drink beer when you're younger right like parents you can drink at home things like that and i think that encourages a culture that has alcohol be a part of it and you learn
Starting point is 01:36:49 to drink in a calm way you learn to drink you know at meals socially um you know there was i always reference this but there were uh there was a group of university presidents who led by the university of the president of dartmouth university i believe, who said, we want to lower the drinking age to 18 because we want people to not come to college campuses and start binge drinking. That's a good point. Right. I showed up to college and I was already a pro.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Really? Yeah. Why? Did you get kosher at home or you just had a lot of- Well, I just drank a lot in high school. Yeah, same. Same. But I mean, and responsibly also,
Starting point is 01:37:24 but I've been from an Irish Catholic family in New York City. We drank. Current parents are so mad right now. Do not feel like you should be able to vote, which is the most full expression of participation in a republic about people who cannot partake in that republic. So when you have 18-year-olds telling 21-year-olds you can't have a beer, but you have 18-year-olds sending them to war, I have a problem with that. So if I am old enough to vote, I'm old enough to do everything in that functional republic. And if I'm not able to do some of it, then I can't vote in it. Interesting. See, I disagree. I think that there's good reason to say, like, all right, you're an adult, but you still can't vote.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Just because historically, you couldn't vote until you were 21, but people were basically on their own providing for themselves from the time they were 16. So you had a couple years under your belt of, like, learning about what the world was before you were able to, you know you you'd paid rent before or built a house lived on land universally true i think there are some people hold on did you just not all me did you just hashtag not all not all did you point out yes of course i'm speaking in generalities do you want me do you want me to highlight every individual case of every single person who's ever voted so that i can pass through people were on their own at 16 i don't think that's general to although so you were expected to be able to provide for yourself by that point so so this i think what you're talking about is responsibility you know yes and we don't raise people to be responsible surge coming in to break up this fight well i was gonna say with
Starting point is 01:38:54 hannah claire's point some um different uh i'm losing the word right now culture yeah cultures like some um like men will live with their families until they get married right right like until they're like 30 something like italians yeah yeah and mom still does my laundry and and absolutely mama mia yeah yeah i just i want to quickly finish my point though i was gonna say that i think the responsibility is is hugely important i think that's what everyone's talking about here where if you boil it down you're talking about responsibility to say like oh well yeah alcohol does this to me And I can restrain myself from drinking too much of it
Starting point is 01:39:28 And that just doesn't happen I went to high school in Singapore And at drinking age is 18 there And you know like at some point When all the seniors in high school are turning 18 you know you're able to drink And you're still going to school you're still expected to be able to control yourself And handle yourself and yes like you said when you came To school in Texas right
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yeah yeah yeah people You know binge drink like crazy and it's wild to see that when i showed up in college i was like wow these people are like just unhinged it's just wild the culture here but anyways uh serge is it just me or is there no right way to pronounce this next name i don't uh it's not like an appropriate anything i just have how do we how do we i mean legamith again yeah yeah i just have how do we how do we trust you i mean legamith again yeah yeah i think that's what we're going with sounds good biden claiming to grow up in a black church is i can't even read that without laughing i shouldn't laugh i shouldn't laugh because you know what he said he said not a joke not a joke but as if also yeah biden claiming
Starting point is 01:40:23 to grow up in a black church is like the real life version of steve martin's character recounting his life in the movie the jerk when he said i was a small black child he's a classical dishonest lawyer from an era when you could be when you couldn't be fact-checked yeah here's the thing man now that elon's in charge he can be fact-checked because even in the technological error they weren't they weren't doing it to him they weren't fact-checking old sleepy joe but he has so many different identities i'm not i'm not one to diagnose from afar with anything other than dementia but i gotta say i get in like tinges of bpd over here with this guy he feels like he's just a different person every room of course i'm being facetious here we know
Starting point is 01:40:59 that this is not a medical condition this is just being a politician these people will adopt whatever identity helps them in any given instance. He just happens to be like particularly good at it. Yeah, he is. He'll become a different guy, but it was easier to be that in 1970 when there wasn't an internet, but now there is.
Starting point is 01:41:15 And he still does it. He's Walter Mitty. I grew up in the Jewish community. I grew up with the Puerto Rican community. Name a community. He's grown up in it. It's just all of the communities. He believes his own lies. I grew up in the Puerto Rican community. Name a community he's grown up in. It's just all of the communities. There was like a big Venn diagram of communities,
Starting point is 01:41:28 and he was just in that dot right in the middle. You didn't know Scranton was the most diverse place in all of America in 1950. That's true. He grew up in every community. Most people think it was all white coal miners, but actually it was not. It was the most diverse microcosm of all America in 1950.
Starting point is 01:41:42 What are the different churches he said he was in? He's been in definitely Puerto Rican community, black church, Jewish synagogue. He went to daily. We went to mass every Sunday. He's a very busy guy. I'm sure when he was in India, he told them, I grew up in going to seeking Buddhist temples.
Starting point is 01:41:59 No joke. No joke. Because I grew up in the Indian church. Not a joke. All right. So we have Cashby saying, it is heartening to see strong Americans making a difference. Bud Light Sound of Freedom.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Try that in a small town. Let's keep pushing that freedom economy. Businesses that are... You know, I'm reading a guest super chat. This is their hard-earned money. You just have to... Businesses that are hiring, giving our our ai powered applicant tracking system a look i emoji res genie yeah i was just gonna say also your friend who you went out to support in nebraska
Starting point is 01:42:39 i feel like that's a good sign too right there are all sorts of cool things happening in american culture we shouldn't be too cynical about them. We also should not take them for granted. Right. Trevor, good job, buddy. So proud of that kid. And he just DM'd you on Twitter? Yeah, DM'd me on Twitter and said,
Starting point is 01:42:57 could you help us out with this? And I would do it again. I mean, this is happening, and I'm sure I won't put anyone on the spot, but I'm sure other people in these situations would. know my school board i know people do this i know people involved in the trans stuff in the school level and they say my school board's pushing this can you help us with our school board vote can you help us with that and they show up because this is what we do so i love it that's awesome seamus is laughing no no just no sorry some super chats
Starting point is 01:43:21 they're just these these rascals in chat are they accusing you of something absolutely not no they know what's good for them x y and z said medically assisted self-harm that is a great way of putting it that's a great way of putting it yeah mash we'll start calling it mash medically assisted self-harm oh that's awesome that's a good acronym thank you i've got got kind of a brain for come on come on was that tmi x y and z i give it up to you don't let seamus steal your thunder it's okay well he didn't say that he i was the one who came over the acronym for i was the one who noticed what the first letter of every word was okay that takes something of a genius right yeah they capitalized it but okay we'll give it to her
Starting point is 01:43:58 serge is really moderating tonight yeah i'm not sure what to make of this uh i think i could maybe work most of that into an article there is an obligation with Serge is really moderating tonight. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure what to make of this. Keep in check. I think I could maybe work most of that into an article. There is an obligation with language to like when we're writing to like not give into the left bias, right? The gender affirming care, but also not lean so far verbose that you're also just leaning into a different echo chamber. So it's definitely an interesting suggestion. I tend to say, and it's really awkward, medical gender-related intervention services or something like that.
Starting point is 01:44:34 And the thing is, it makes these types of articles very difficult. It doesn't feel like my best writing because it's the most awkward phrasing of all time. But I don't know. It's mind-blowing. Yeah. But philosophy don't know. It's mind-blowing. Yeah. But philosophy of language,
Starting point is 01:44:47 we were talking about this before the show started. That's why the left dominates the language conversation. Wittgenstein would have a field day if he were alive. And what did he say? If I can control your language, I can control your reality. Yeah, that's right. And that's why they jump onto gender affirming.
Starting point is 01:44:58 They jump onto choice. They jump onto queer. They jump onto gay. They take words and they redefine them. Top surgery. Gender affirming care. They take words and they redefine them. Top surgery. Gender-affirming care. It's actually called MASH. I just feel like you have to knock it in.
Starting point is 01:45:11 That's right. TN says, Does Chicago gifts for immigrants include AK-47s? Oh, man. Honestly, it wouldn't be all that shocking. I'm sure there's some kind of... I think we actually can't afford not to do that. I think it's inhumane.
Starting point is 01:45:24 How can we as a country say we're living up to our founding ideals if we don't do that it'd be crazy didn't we give them to ukraine oh yeah we're running out of all kinds of things yeah yeah i i just i don't understand i also feel like i could do better talking to people who have strong arguments for immigration because more and more and maybe this is just the sphere that i'm living in but people who i think of as moderate even lean slightly progressive are much more open to restricting immigration than i feel like they ever were in my lifetime you know and i think that should tell you how bad it's getting wow we have uh from jason hushinson
Starting point is 01:46:00 taxation is theft hunter biden is and then he compliments him here i'm not going to read it out loud because i'm not ever going to have a compliment to hunter biden come out of my mouth so that it can be clipped as if i'm complimenting hunter biden but the words the next words he said you go ahead i'll say hunter biden is pretty based that's horrible it's just sick that word needs the dignity of that word needs to be respected yeah i was gonna say i what what about that what about him is based because because taxation is stuffed because so so he was didn't pay his taxes that's what they're saying i think that's sickening i think that's sickening yeah listen pretty based to not have to be subject to exactly it's pretty based it's pretty yeah it's pretty based to not do what the peons have to do
Starting point is 01:46:38 yeah when your dad is a career politician and the president it's it's pretty based to abuse that privilege so i'm gonna where credits do i'm gonna read this next super chat just to let people know When your dad is a career politician and the president, it's pretty base to abuse that privilege. So I'm going to read this next super chat just to let people know that I do give voice to opposing opinion. And if people say things that are incorrect, I'm willing to hear them out. So Sabi Vet says, first super chat for Shimcast. I'm loving Shimcast, but I'm still amazed Tim would leave a spoon thief in charge. Give the people what they want. What?
Starting point is 01:47:10 I can't read this next part. Read it. I can't. Somebody read it. You'd love it. Give us Brimcast. Also, your name looks like C-M-U-S. She must.
Starting point is 01:47:20 I don't. Listen. Wow. The people have spoken and they want brimcast firstly interesting firstly one firstly one person spoke one person spoke and this is exactly why we were having a conversation on the issues with democracy i'm the monarch here defensive turn your turn your chair around i will not i just want you to turn that chair around nope uh tim gets back you're in trouble a poll surge yeah no but we we could do a poll we could do a poll about that if i decide that i'm interested in in entertaining such absurd questions we will uh we've been taken
Starting point is 01:47:50 over by a dictatorship i i'm concerned about it no i mean of course i would be happy to he did actually he said well i'm gone you're in charge that's what he said to me i don't believe all of that those are his words he said i think you were just the one supposed to sit in that chair the thing is i will give shane middleton a lot of credit he is balancing so much right now he runs his own business freedom tunes which is great and also had that youtube minute there but they're back um so i i as much as i obviously would personally support and advocate for a brim cast i think we should give shamus a lot of credit because thank you he is uh he's accomplished a lot this week based thank you that's true that's true and i
Starting point is 01:48:21 want to ask you all this is my diplomatic opinion when the next election cycle comes up oh i'm sorry do you have do you have personal and private opinions interesting like to see your emails so i have a youtube channel called freedom tunes that was taken down and it's back up but we weren't able to we usually release a video every thursday and we weren't able to so i really want to ask you guys to go to freedom tunes and subscribe please because that would help us a lot we were hoping we'd be able to get a boost in traffic on the video we released since I'm hosting the show, since Tim left me in charge. Couldn't happen because the channel was taken down this week.
Starting point is 01:48:52 So I'm just going to ask you guys to go check that out. And also become members at FreedomTunes.com. Become members at FreedomTunes.com and you'll be supporting what I do. You'll be helping me get free of big tech and you'll also get an extra cartoon each week, which exists behind the paywall. How's that sound? How do you like them apples? Sounds like you're poaching Tim's audience
Starting point is 01:49:06 for your own benefit, which does not sound like a very nice thing to do. I'm not poaching his audience. I didn't tell them to unsubscribe from members at timcast.com. I think they should become members at timcast.com too. Hannah Clare,
Starting point is 01:49:16 this is not a zero-sum game. The world's big enough for both of us. Well, at least me and Tim. A shifty character. We just got to keep eyes on you. A shifty character? Shifty character. Well, i would disagree
Starting point is 01:49:25 your your opinion means very little to me i know alberto chipras alberto excuse me i'm trying to read alberto chipras says i chatted yesterday about vivek as vp and hope it didn't come off as too dismissive of him i'm liking the guy in his message and hope the best for him but as of now i'm strongly supporting trump so here's the thing i think it's good it was it was really dismissive and you really upset him no he's fine i mean he's fine with all the questions that get asked to him but i will say this the man isn't running a vice presidential campaign he's not spending vice presidential money on this this man is running to be president you know what i i will say this i've really enjoyed the conversation with him, and I think he went way deeper on his answers
Starting point is 01:50:09 to the questions we gave him than any other presidential candidate I've ever heard speak on those issues. Yeah, I got to agree. He really cut into the spiritual core of the matter. I was very impressed. And that's great that he did it, and for the length of time he did it,
Starting point is 01:50:23 because most presidential candidates, and having worked on several presidential campaigns, will do their fake town halls where the questions are pre-scripted. And the person gets up there and says, Carter, good morning. My name is. They know exactly who you are. And they tilt their head and they say,
Starting point is 01:50:38 that's a great question, Carter. I always wondered how they knew their names. Thank you for asking me that. And let me just say that it's all scripted. So to sit in this type of forum where you get not only super chats but you get each other all of you that's hard and that's why candidates don't do it and i i keep advocating for this my last little plug that i uh that i think is so important before the days of covid our politicians especially our congressmen and women used to do that in their districts during the summer and then covet
Starting point is 01:51:05 happened they were like we can't have town halls because and then no one has brought that back because no one who runs for congress wants to stand in the high school gym and say carter what's your question you know like what's your question what no they don't want to listen because so they they hide behind the covet and they're not bringing it back the best thing you can do to get involved with democracy at the local level is force your politicians to stand there with a microphone in the gym and answer every damn question and you will see whether or not they are worthy of the job amen amen yeah completely agreed we have from fisher kingston daniel so you that's right that's ready for this oh boy prepared do you want to get your phone out, Google it?
Starting point is 01:51:45 It's going to be a real tough one. Now, they're asking you, Daniel, so you support nuclear reactors? I think they meant do, but the question still stands. Of course. I love nuclear power. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Yeah, nuclear power works. It's efficient. Okay. Yeah. We should have more. I'm fascinated in the growth of micro nuclear reactors. I think we should have as many'm fascinated in the the growth of of uh micro nuclear reactors um i think we should have as many of them as possible um i love nuclear reactors because they also require
Starting point is 01:52:12 an awful lot of fossil fuels and i love fossil fuels can i ask a question i think i probably asked you this last time you're on but how did you get interested in the energy industry i hated the lies of the environmental left so to undertake on their lies, I had to learn this issue. And I hated the damage the environmental left was doing. Just the way the COVID people, the damage they did to 14-year-old girls committing suicide at, what was it, 10 times the average rate. And the damage that we do to people for an agenda. That's what got me involved in it. Because the damage they do to rural America,
Starting point is 01:52:46 West Virginia coal towns are not very far from here. And when you see the state of what we've done to those communities and the poverty we've left them in, it made me very, very angry. And I try not to be an angry person. You talked about anger before. But there is a righteous anger. Yep.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Jesus made a whip out of cords and kicked them out of the temple. And sometimes I think we need that in righteous anger. Yep. Jesus made a whip out of cords and, you know, kicked them out of the temple. And sometimes I think we need that in our life. No, look, I agree. Righteous indignation is important. You are definitely mild-mannered. I haven't seen you. And by mild-mannered, I don't mean like, like you speak your opinion, but you don't get
Starting point is 01:53:18 angry with people when they challenge you, I've noticed. And I'll also say righteous indignation is very valuable. And an important point about that about you know jesus driving the bankers out of the temple is you can do that you can yell at people if you're also willing to die for them that's another part of the story people forget you got to be on that level um cheers and also depending on the circumstance you can't just chase anyone out of everywhere okay but uh cheers to daniel and rick whitbeck of, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Mine Pebble says, Oh, hey, thanks.
Starting point is 01:53:48 Cheers to Daniel and Rick Whitbeck of PTF. Power of the Future. Nice. I've seen, excuse me, I've seen the drive in both of you. Thank you for the voice you lend to responsible resource development. If it hasn't been grown, then it must have been mined. Yes. Pebble mine is the largest copper deposit in the world.
Starting point is 01:54:09 We need a boatload of copper if we're going to go green. Your average electric vehicle has 70 to 90 pounds of copper in it. And so market forces would dictate that we need to mine more copper. But yet the same environmental movement that says we have to go green
Starting point is 01:54:24 says you can't open pebble mine. It's bad for the environment. And so we get our copper from third world countries mined by slaves. Yeah, I was just going to ask you that. Aren't the components needed for these car batteries mined by child slaves? Absolutely, around the world. And all of those components could be mined responsibly in America.
Starting point is 01:54:43 We have almost all the raw materials we need if we were allowed to mine them. But yet the same forces that say you have to have this green agenda say, oh, you can't open these mine. It's bad for the climate. So why are we favoring mining? There's a reason why Nike makes their sneakers in China, right? There's the same reason why we want to get our cobalt, not from Minnesota, but we want to get it from the Congo. Heck of a lot cheaper. And it shows the true pernicious nature of this movement.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Well, and I think this is so interesting because it's the same people who are saying, you know, we have to have higher standards. We need to not allow child labor, but they won't demand that manufacturing jobs come back to the U.S. Where we could oversee this, right? I mean, it's complete hypocrisy. Good union jobs. Good union jobs. No, no, no not not for them as long as they get their stuff cheap and they don't have to think about how what's happening to
Starting point is 01:55:29 children and they could just say that conservatives are being mean to uh transgender identifying minors here and they don't have to think about the lives that go into the cheap products they buy from target then then it doesn't matter to them there's complete hypocrisy if you really believe in protecting children you would bring back manufacturing jobs well you know it's also interesting because i mentioned earlier that what the left will do is they'll say this this really horrible objectively evil thing is something people are going to do anyway so we just have to let it happen so we can do it responsibly or have it done responsibly and then what always happens is more people do it and they're always wrong but the one argument or the one area where you actually can make that argument is when
Starting point is 01:56:06 it is something that like isn't objectively evil. So with mining, for example, which is not objectively evil, like there are evil ways of doing it and people are doing it in evil ways. And we're just letting them do it that way instead of doing it ourselves and driving them out of the market. That is actually one instance where us doing something could prevent people from doing it in an irresponsible way by reducing market demand for what they're doing uh and we refuse yeah crazy um kyle flower says i have a friend that used to work for democratic campaigns he brags about how
Starting point is 01:56:37 he was able to write off pot as a campaign expense well you need anesthesia don't you to be working for a democratic campaign not that i endorse that particular method how sick how sick all right do we have oh oh sorry did you guys want to comment on that anna claire usually has something to say i'm not allowed to speak right now i'm getting evil eyes thank goodness thank goodness she's gotten the memo jason hutchinson says someone who's asked me to be did you podcast... I thought you couldn't speak. I thought you couldn't speak. Are you going to make your mind up? There's a lot of hostility here. Jason Hutchinson says, eventually you run out of room on the balance sheet for BS in reality returns.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Yeah. Yeah. True that. That's the truth. Yeah. Man. We'll go with one more here before we sign out. I'm not going to read that nonsense.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Dude, come on. That's nonsense. Come on. It's nonsense. That's good. I'm not going to read that nonsense. Dude, come on. That's nonsense. Come on. It's nonsense. That's good. I'm trying to pick the best ones, guys. It's hard. It's hard to work with this guy.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Also, because Seamus is a tyrant is really what I've learned this week. He's only reading the positive ones. I'm a tyrant? He's screening all the anti-Spoongate or the Spoongate ones. Well, I can't allow misinformation to fly into his podcast while he's gone. I respect that. That's a standard to have. Yeah, thanks. You should censor
Starting point is 01:57:46 the misinformation ones. That's what I'm saying. We should fact check them. We should get a tag on YouTube. Oh, wait, we already did that this week. That was a good one. I thought that was a good one. You were wrong about that, so we'll pick the one that was good. We're so dysfunctional without Tim.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Dude, you literally... Alright, okay. Boom. Wait, no, that's the wrong one dude i found a good one and then you stole and then you you scrolled and now i can't find it anymore this is unbelievable it's unbelievable um carter how are you doing yeah where was it figure out how someone someone had said and i want to give them credit super chat i wanted to give them credit but they were basically saying that i didn't do anything wrong. And you, you know. Someone you paid.
Starting point is 01:58:26 So the evidence was withheld. And the evidence was withheld in my case, is all I'm saying. Seems like you were looking for the positive exculpatory evidence. No, I saw one and someone whipped it away from me. Someone, huh? Here's actually a good one. Someone, right? Yeah, you did, bro.
Starting point is 01:58:47 You literally did. Well, maybe we should just let this one go because now i really want to know what it was yeah they literally just said that um seamus didn't steal the spoons he stole potatoes which was slander they said seamus didn't steal the spoons he stole potatoes but now i'll never be able to find and credit that person is that a mean irish joke yeah it's another it's another one of these horribly offensive jokes thank you racist jokes have no place in this in this thank you thank you and you know what i'll say this i will say this though the fact that they made that joke means that they're racist against me and in spite of their racism they were still willing to acknowledge that i had done nothing wrong doug Blask says, where are me lucky charms? Someone. I got him. I whispered it.
Starting point is 01:59:26 Yeah, I know. Doug Black said. Doug Black. Hold on. I know why he's doing this. I know why he's doing this. So I'm just going to give him what he wants because I'm a good host. Doug Blask says, where are me lucky charms?
Starting point is 01:59:39 He wants a clip of that. He wants a clip of me saying where are me lucky charms. I kind of whispered it. Yeah, I'm a nice. I'm a really nice guy. He's a benevol of me saying where he looked at Trump. I kind of whispered it. I'm a really nice guy. He's a benevolent overlord. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, that's about all we have time
Starting point is 01:59:52 for tonight. Please become members at TimCast.com so you can join us in the members only segment, which is going to start in about 10 minutes. Daniel, thank you for joining us. Always a good time. Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, Powerofthefuture.com. Daniel Turner, Ptf on all platforms and if you like sheep and you want to follow a great sheep farm here in virginia bristol farm virginia the premier sheep farm of virginia i
Starting point is 02:00:16 like to call it the premier sheep farmer virginia good good good lamb and sheep photos you'll get a kick out of it i know it's fact checked you right so why not yeah exactly So why not? Yeah, exactly. I declared it thus. So thanks for having me. I'm so glad you were here. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. You should go to TimCast.com, click on the Re tab, and see all the work from me, Chris Burtman, Adrian Norman, all of our great journalists, our executive editor, Chris Carr,
Starting point is 02:00:38 I really want to name everyone, but it's hard sometimes. You should also 100% follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram instagram it's the best if you want to follow me personally you can find me on twitter at hc rebel or on instagram at hanklair.b thank you guys so much thank you hannah claire for inviting me on in place of ian tonight thanks daniel for coming out do you want no i just lied he just showed up i never questioned your authority actually you know what no one invited me We made him put on
Starting point is 02:01:05 A hat and jacket Exactly They did make me Put a hat on My hair looked great And I could tell That Seamus didn't like it And Hannah Clare was like
Starting point is 02:01:15 You should probably Put a hat on anyway You asked me If you should put a hat on Yeah Misinformation runs wild So you're Carter Banks I'm Carter Banks
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Starting point is 02:01:39 You can follow me at CarterBanks4L on Instagram where I post pictures of my cat that my mom sends me. That's great. And at carterbanks on Twitter. Serg. That's great. Yeah, it's true. I wait for your cats your mom sends you. I try to do one a day.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Yeah, they're good. Iamserg.com. I'm trying to keep the show on the rails. You're doing a good job, Seamus. It's okay. You got one more day. You got this, buddy. No, I know I got this.
Starting point is 02:02:03 Oh, wait. Can I say one thing before we go? Sure. Why not, Hannah Clare? Tomorrow, I'm hosting Culture War live at 10 a.m. because Tim is, you know, filming his feature-length film about his life as a skateboarder. Please join me. I think it'll be a great show.
Starting point is 02:02:18 We have Mike Lindell and Matt Brainerd on to talk about election stuff and election security issues. I'm excited to host, and I hope you guys are there in the morning with us, although it's a long night for everyone here. Tim is actually off chasing down the love of his life who's going to the airport so he can tell her how he feels right now. That's why he missed the show. My name is Seamus Coghlan. I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
Starting point is 02:02:38 We make cartoons. We got locked out of our channel for a week, and we're finally back in. So I want to ask you guys to go over there and subscribe to Freedom Tunes if you like what I have to say. I also have a podcast called Shamer. I'm not going to be on Timcast next week after this. So if you like hearing what I have to say, go check my podcast out. It's on Rumble, rumble.com slash Shamer.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Thank you all so much for tuning in and we will see you on the after show you

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