Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #825 LeBron's 18 Yr Old Son Bronny James Suffers Cardiac Arrest w/Roseanne & Michael Malice

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Kellen join Michael Malice & Roseanne Barr to discuss Bronny James suffering from cardiac arrest, Biden accidentally saying he cured cancer, DeSantis firing campaign staffers over Na...zi imagery used in video, & the government saying they have alien technology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So the big news today was that LeBron James's 18-year-old son suffered cardiac arrest while practicing. And instantly on Twitter, vaccine begins trending and everybody is beginning to debate that conversation or have that conversation with people on the left saying, like, oh, it's a conspiracy theory, it's not true. And people on the right, of course, saying it's time to have that talk. So we're going to talk about what happened with lebron james i really want to talk about experimental medicine because i recently went and got some technically experimental medicine myself and there's some interesting conversation to have there we also have a bunch of other uh really interesting stories it was um joe biden i guess he accidentally said that we cured cancer or
Starting point is 00:00:42 something he muttered we've ended cancer as we know it. And, you know, it's a big problem when your president mistakes Syria for Libya during military meetings or publicly declares we've ended cancer as we know it when we have not. But that's the president. What do you expect? And then we've got some other interesting stories. Ron DeSantis has fired a campaign staffer who retweeted a video that had the black sun in it. Nazi symbol.
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Starting point is 00:01:58 But don't forget to also head over to timcast.com. Click Join Us, become a member, because we're going to have a members-only show coming up for you at about 10 p.com. Click join us. Become a member because we're going to have a members only show coming up for you at about 10 p.m. where you as audience members actually get to call in and talk to us. Oh, God, you've got to be. Oh, it's going to be fun. You've got to be a member for at least six months or sign up at the twenty five dollar per month level. And Michael, calm down. It's screened by our team. And then we choose four or five individuals to call and ask questions. So if you want to call in, that's going to be a good time and become a member at Tim cast.com. Now,
Starting point is 00:02:27 uh, of course you could already tell that Michael Malice is joining us tonight. Hi everybody. And he's sitting here. He ordered pizza. You order pizza. Well, I didn't order it.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I got the team, the team, the team ordered it, but Michael insisted. He said, I'd like to have a pizza party. And we said, how do you think you want Michael?
Starting point is 00:02:43 While you're here? It's, you know, my home is your home. Thank you so much. You want said, how do you think you want, Michael? While you're here, my home is your home. Thank you so much. Who are you? I am Michael Malice. I am really excited to be back here.
Starting point is 00:02:50 My new book's The White Pill, whitepillbook.com. Yeah, it's been a minute since our last, we all had that big get-together in Austin where Alex kind of make it a little go off the rails. So I thought we'd just have another reunion, have a little bit of a date. And I had a surprise guest with me and the surprise got a little bit ruined,
Starting point is 00:03:07 but I'm ecstatic. How was it ruined? I was sitting downstairs at the poker table and Roseanne Barr walks in. No, the whole point was, I was supposed to introduce her on air. It was good. I had this whole fantasy in my head,
Starting point is 00:03:18 but yeah, the legend icon and someone who I'm kind of surreal that I'm friends with this person and takes my calls. Roseanne Barr is here. Hi. Good pizza, huh? Really good. I don't think you need to introduce yourself.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You can if you'd like to. Hi. He already introduced me. She used to be on The View. Then she hosted the Rosie O'Donnell Show for several years. I'm happy to be here. I came to learn from you. Oh, you want me to go over here?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, grab the mic so people can hear you. You told me not to eat on the mic. Well, you're talking. Just swallow the pizza and then, you know. Okay. Yeah, I wanted to see how you do because I'm doing a podcast now, rosannbar.com on YouTube
Starting point is 00:04:02 and all the usual places. So I wanted to watch how you do. You're living large on this podcast stuff. I love it. I'm going to learn from you. Oh, I appreciate it. Yeah, we'll tell you anything you want to know. Got a yard full of chickens.
Starting point is 00:04:15 That looks good. We have too many chickens. We have more. There's babies in there. And they make more of themselves is the thing. You know what I mean? You just leave them in there
Starting point is 00:04:22 and you come back and there's more and you're like, oh. How many eggs a day are you getting? 30 maybe. Good. Yeah, it's a lot of chickens. This is the top story. It's huge news.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Chicken City is overpopulated. It smells bad. Oh, yeah. That's all that ammonia. And does it mess up their feet too? No, they're fine. It's not that overpopulated. It rains and stuff, and they have the outdoor area.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Well, thank you for joining us. It's going to be really fun. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad I'm feet too. No, they're fine. It's not that overpopulated. It rains and stuff and they have the outdoor area. But well, thank you for joining us. It's going to be really fun. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad I'm here too. Thanks for inviting me. I'm delighted to make stuff like this. Just in all seriousness, people ask me a lot of times,
Starting point is 00:04:55 as many people know, I was a lifelong New Yorker. I've lived in Austin now for two years. I am now know how to drive a car. I'm getting lessons from Colin Robb, who's a professional race car driver and national indoor skydiving champion. Follow him on Instagram. Colin, C-O-L-L-I-N-R-O-B-B underscore on Instagram. Great dude.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Well, and I'm filming it because I thought it would be funny. So now I'm at the level of like Asian female in terms of my driving skills. I can get around. Step on it. But the thing I miss, people ask me, do you miss New York? Do you miss new york do you miss new york what i missed about new york is that when you go to a party some get together you're going to run into cool people who are doing awesome things and that kind of vanished but that's happening now in austin so to be able to like sit in a room and here comes rosanne bar
Starting point is 00:05:38 is just completely surreal i got on right i gotta hand it to you man because it's your big part of that it's amazing how you can just manifest you put your mind to it before you even move down there. You're like, I'm going to set up a house where a lot of, I don't know, you didn't say intelligent people. It is intelligent. It's like a kind of erudite, you know, people that enjoy art and reading and things like information. Man, I went to a party at Michael Malice's house, and I highly recommend it. If anyone is down there in Austin and you know Michael, that is the place to be. It was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Very excited to meet the people you know. Roseanne, you're one of them. I love you. Alright, also joining us is Phil Labonte. How you doing? I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. I am excited to be here. Hi, Roseanne. I am so happy to be here.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Ms. Barr. Ms. Barr. Mr. Malice, I thoroughly enjoy your company when you're not pointing your claws at me my favorite people uh we are uh we're ready to go so uh ian's of course here yeah i gave a little sly intro a little bit before phil sorry about that homie no don't apologize well i don't really have anything to bring other than what i already did i'm just glad you guys are here man and i'm
Starting point is 00:06:40 going to point out to the audience that you missed some gold because watching ian and rosanne talk about ufos before we started. Yeah, we got a UFO story. Okay. Yeah. Talking about power sources. Yeah. We're going to talk about UFOs because apparently some former government intelligence guy came out and said that the US has off earth technology.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I am so freaking lucky that I get to see all this shit. That's what I'm talking about, dude. All right. We also got Kellen mashing all the buttons. Yeah. I'm filling in again for search tonight. What's up, everybody? I'm Kellen. Ian, I loved to see your X's today. You're really X-ing like crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:10 It's always good to see it. I'll X harder. Rock on. So you guys know Twitter is rebranded now to X. Everyone's been X-ing. Hopefully keep their due diligence. I feel, why isn't it expressing? Express. Express. Right? I mean, I think X is dumb.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I don't care what they call it, though. The problem with express is it's two syllables, and you need, like, one syllable word for it. All right. I don't know why he changed it. I went and got this tattoo on my arm about three years ago. It's the Twitter bird, you know? Oh, yeah. Because I said, well, this, I said, well, someday, real quick, this was three years ago,
Starting point is 00:07:45 I said, the people are going to own Twitter because I can see it coming. Now this is no damn good. I've got to put an X. Oh, even better. Well, let's jump into the news. Before we do, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and, of course, become a member at timcast.com for the after show.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Here's the big story. This timcast.com for the app.com for the after show here's the here's the the big story this is crazy it's from uh yahoo bronnie james lebron james's 18 year old son suffered cardiac arrest here's what you need you need to know uh i mean that's basically the story he was on the he was he was practicing he had a car he had a cardiac uh he had cardiac arrest he was rushed to the hospital he's very serious he's in stable condition he survived the big news however how old 18 oh survived. The big news, however, is that the big news outside of that is that Elon, here's the Daily Mail, Bronnie James cardiac
Starting point is 00:08:31 arrest is linked to the COVID-19 vaccine Elon Musk suggests, saying, we cannot ascribe everything to the vaccine, but by the same token, we cannot ascribe nothing, Musk wrote. Myocarditis is a known side effect. The only question is whether it is rare or common musk's tweet continued i will just say this as i always start videos like this talk to your doctor about what's right for you find trusted medical
Starting point is 00:08:52 professionals a lot of people don't trust the medical system but there are people out there who are good medical professionals you can trust just do the work and uh the cdc it says it is rare myocarditis but i'm wondering what you guys think about this whole thing. Can I say one thing? It seems to me, I'm going to put my tinfoil hat on with this issue. It seems to me that one of the big stresses where the demand was to get everyone as vaccinated as possible was to socialize risk. Because if everyone's invested and if bad things start to happen where we're all in this together whereas if you have one population and that population has consequences then it's like
Starting point is 00:09:30 okay it's happening to them it's now there's going to be hell to pay now it's like okay wait wait you guys screwed up you know people in florida you guys screwed up maybe young people whatever if it's everybody then it's kind of like you can't it's like that's how corporate corporate systems work bureaucracies work if you distribute um the consequences then really no one's to blame but but here's here's i but that also created the perception of risk itself so i'll say a few things the cdc says that myocarditis is a rare side effect from uh the mrna vaccine specifically this is the cdc saying it don't take don't take my word for it and myocarditis is listed as a cause uh sometimes a cause of cardiac arrest in young athletic males that would easily mean that
Starting point is 00:10:11 sometimes people get the covid vaccine may suffer myocarditis and that may result in cardiac arrest i believe it's extremely rare however we gave out as of october that was the latest number i could find 630 at 637 or some ridiculous number of vaccine doses. You give out that many, let's say it's one in a million people who will get myocarditis, you're going to have 600 and some odd cases of myocarditis, then you're going to hear a bunch of stories in the news, and people are going to assume many stories means it's happening all the time, when actually the same percentage of people are suffering a rare side effect. Yeah, but, you know, if you really were going to have some trust in statistics,
Starting point is 00:10:49 you would have hoped they would have used a control group in the quote-unquote science, which they didn't. So we don't really know how many people, and plus I don't trust their numbers anyway, but I think that what happened to him is that global warming got him. Oh, yeah, but that's a good point or white supremacy no hold on the stress of both very big issues but where where are they at it was 120 degrees in las vegas so uh he used to so hot right heart was going crazy pumping the heat actually in all seriousness this in all seriousness though when you're really hot your heart pumps your blood like crazy to move the heat through your body.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But it was hot. And then he saw some dudes from Saudi Arabia in the traditional garb, thought it was KKK members, had a heart attack. We're all joking. No, but if you've ever been in that Las Vegas heat, I mean, I about had myocarditis when I was there like about five years ago just walking outside to the cab. Yeah, but you were a senior citizen. You know what I mean? He's like an 18-year-old athlete. But the other thing is,
Starting point is 00:11:49 why they're being disingenuous is they're saying it's rare. Death from COVID is rare. It was like 1%. Even if something happens to 1% of the people, that's rare. And murder, I think American is 330 million people and there's like 20,000 murders.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So that's statistically irrelevant. It's rare, but are we going to pretend murder doesn't matter? So that word is kind of a weasel word. It could mean what you're saying or it could mean that it's doubling what it should have been, but that's still rare and we should care about it. Well, when it comes to the CDC, though, one thing that I find interesting and, you know, I wear a permanent tinfoil hat. You know that, baby baby because i'm 70 i don't believe anything anybody tells me but uh you know the permanent thing they say is to really check out what these undertakers are saying how the death rate went up in what population for the
Starting point is 00:12:38 undertakers know it and uh they say it's through the roof of people, you know, and insurance companies say it too. Their stuff went up 100 million points. That could be COVID. But I don't believe. No, it's people dying from myocarditis. Here's the thing. I don't believe that five years ago that there were enough news articles of young athletes getting myocarditis and possibly dying i don't think this was a thing well they was right all over the all over the place on soccer fields
Starting point is 00:13:11 and south that's what i'm saying but i'm saying five years if they're they're they're trying to make it out this has nothing to do the vaccines i don't think and it's just we're just noticing it now i don't think there would have been enough to notice five years ago here's my here's my question why why is the immediate assumption it's vaccines and not that it was covid we so we know that myocarditis covid covid does cause myocarditis okay uh and we know that that's true it was the alpha the alpha strain was brutal was super brutal and then over time as it started to mutate it became less and less serious the various strange omicron whatever so the first strains were were nuts so you know all these we see these documentaries like, what was that one where they're pulling the clots out of the body?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh, yeah. Was that died suddenly? Died suddenly. I saw that and I said, could COVID be doing this? And the weird thing to me about it is you've got this conspiracy theory. And I'm not saying that to be disparaging to people who don't trust big pharma. The idea being that there is these vaccines may be causing blood clots they call it the clot shot and stuff like that and i'm like here's a conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:14:09 covid was manufactured through gain-of-function research doc fauci funded it it was made in the lab it leaked and is causing extreme reactions that we're seeing which results in blood clots and myocarditis true what about that conspiracy theory right i mean that could be i'll accept that one that's what that's what i'm saying i mean i i think also to your point it's kind of telling that you're now in a position to make that question on uh on air and not be shut down completely and totally now there's two possibilities one people push back enough they're like okay or that there's enough data that what you're just asking about can no longer just be pretended to be just tinfoil hat nonsense well it's proven it's fact there's enough data that what you're just asking about can no longer just be pretended to be just tinfoil hat nonsense. It's proven. It's fact.
Starting point is 00:14:47 One thing that a lot of a lot of the liberals brought up in counter to, you know, vaccine starts trending when Brownie James has this news breaks. And a bunch of liberals are like, hey, COVID causes myocarditis. And it does. And it did like well before the vaccines. We were seeing it. I don't know if there's enough news. I feel like it would cause it in young people and young athletes. It might cause it in someone who's older and weaker already. But like the whole thing with COVID is it's not targeting young people. And in fact, children almost –
Starting point is 00:15:14 Well, we don't know that though. Well, we know in terms of the death rates and things like that. Well, but death rate is not the same as transmission. I could see like – I read a study that said that a lot of infants, you know, that are born dead, I can't remember the word for it. Stillborn. Stillborn. They have heart issues from mother.
Starting point is 00:15:34 In utero? Yeah. So we don't know if that's that the mother had COVID or that she got vaccinated either. I had Count Dankula on my show and he was talking about the rates of stillbirth and mis miscarriage in scotland was like through the roof yeah that could be that could be covered yeah i'm just saying the thing is it's not nothing right the whole point is that absolutely the argument is this isn't really happening or just noticing it it just because you can't think of the cause doesn't mean the consequence is not occurring but we should be open to exactly you know discussing and like using scientific method rather than getting in big fistfights over this or that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 We should be open to finding out what the hell is. And I don't think it's a partisan issue. I don't think it is either. I mean, this has nothing to do with Republicans. But they make everything into a partisan fight. Democrat governors put COVID patients in nursing homes and killed elderly people they were warned they killed the old people definitely they cuomo was warned explicitly right the javits center and the comfort were available for housing sick people and he was like i put them in nursing homes and they said if you do that elderly people will contract covid they will die
Starting point is 00:16:39 he did it anyway and then you had someone for that he must have done a calculated risk like if we don't do it this many people could die if we do do it less people javits center yeah it wasn't even at capacity it was it was they converted into hospital i i said you know that they that i've heard this i don't know that it's back but i've seen it reported as fact that hospitals did get a payoff for every death yes yes that's true listed as 26 here's what i want to say about you know uh we have we have this debate over like desantis and trump and this conversation comes up and people often point to you know trump was buddy buddy with fauci
Starting point is 00:17:14 and trump did operation warp speed and i just want to say you know look i like experimental medicine a lot trump was in favor of right to try right it's a good thing government mandates are a bad thing right corporations mandating people get a medication and the government through circuitous methods or direct methods forcing it is the problem yeah trump funding whatever i'm like if i don't if i'm not forced anything i i don't really care right i mean fine whatever i don't like the big pharmaceuticals multi massive multinational corporations but i recently just went to tijuana and got experimental medication to treat my damaged hip, and it helped me out greatly, but I chose it.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So, yeah, I don't like the, you know, my view is not to rag on Trump because he funded experiments. It's to rag on the politicians and the executives who are forcing people to get medicated. Is that just me, or does it seem like people criticize Trump for not being a libertarian, even though they're not libertarians? Like to think that Trump wouldn't want the government to do something would would be really kind of ridiculous, in my opinion, because Donald Trump's not a small government kind of guy. He was never that kind of dude.
Starting point is 00:18:17 He knew how to work the government in New York to, you know, be able to get at least some buildings built and stuff. So the idea that Donald Trump needs to be held accountable in the way that you would hold a libertarian accountable seems off to me. I think they're more trying to hold him accountable for trusting people that he should have known are nefarious. Fair. That's the issue, I think. I can't speak for Trump supporters.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Well, who else was he going to trust? It's not like there was anybody decent to choose from. Hello? Hello? Hello? Yeah. Yeah, he brought on Bolton. I think that was because one of his donors wanted him to bring on John Bolton, and then
Starting point is 00:18:54 Bolton stabs in the back. Yeah. Trump brought on so many dumb people. Like, Fauci, though, is the dumbest guy. I mean, Fauci is the most wrong guy. Remember with AIDS? Fauci, remember back then? I don't remember it, but I've read a lot about it since then.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Because you're not that old. I've been going down this... I do, and my brother's gay, you know, and I remember when AIDS was the big thing, and Fauci was the problem then, too. Yeah, I just finished watching this superb miniseries from back in the day called Angels in America about the AIDS crisis in New York.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And I think this... I might even write a book about about at some point because i think people have forgotten how dark it was and it was a joke because it was happening to them and like ha ha and it was it's really if you look back it was extremely disturbing how this population was treated and and like just almost applauded i heard a conspiracy theory about the mmr vaccine 1980 they they established and they distributed mass distribution of the mmMR vaccine in 1980. They established and they distributed a mass distribution of the MMR vaccine, some new vaccine, and this is the conspiracy theory is that it was tainted with HIV. Right, I heard
Starting point is 00:19:50 that. A lot of people got it, but most people were able to fight it off. It was the people doing poppers and partying until 5 a.m. that got really sick. Which you can't talk about. And then they were like, gay, it's the gay, and it's like no, it's because their bodies were weakened. But we don't need that conspiracy because we know that Bayer had tainted hemophilia medication.
Starting point is 00:20:07 That's historically a fact. Well, have you heard of Celia Farber? Uh-uh. She's a great journalist, and she went back in the 90s when I was on my show. She brought me evidence. She's a prize-winning journalist. And she had traced it back to the Salk vaccine, place in africa where they tested on those children the salk and the sabin polio vaccine is the same place where aids originated you know this is uh uh it's like a it's like a dangerous youtube subject either way because i don't i don't i i i'm
Starting point is 00:20:39 not inclined to immediately say that vaccines caused whatever. There's so many conspiracy theories about all this medication. No, but I'm just saying, like, experimenting on a captive population is always bad. Yeah, yeah. You know, you can't do that. So I just watched Bohemian Rhapsody, the movie. Queen, such an amazing band. Bohemian Rhapsody, is it the greatest song of all time?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yes, absolutely. And so I'm watching it. We built this city as the greatest song of all time yes perhaps absolutely and so I'm watching it we built this city as the greatest song of all time that's a good song no he was the greatest singer ever
Starting point is 00:21:08 you think so he's your favorite yeah I just Queen is so good you know and especially after watching that movie
Starting point is 00:21:15 I'm listening to all their songs again after all this time and I'm like eclectic yes that's the thing about them operatic
Starting point is 00:21:21 just so amazing groundbreaking this may be a little crass but i love don't stop me now but every time i i listen to that i'm like you know one second thought someone should have stopped that guy oh god tim that's a michael malice joke but lord what i'm not saying to be mean i i'm not saying that as a joke i literally people should have been like someone should have at least moderated him. You know, maybe not stop him, but yeah. But that wasn't the time, so I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:46 it was all excess. But it's, you know, Michael's over here, he's very laughing, he likes it. But I'm not saying it's a joke, I'm saying it,
Starting point is 00:21:52 this guy was doing drugs, he was partying nonstop all the time, that destroys his immune system, he contracts HIV, and I'm just like, that's such a brutal thing, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:04 my point is, when it comes to these conspiracy theories about what really happened i'm like these stories are all people who as like ian pointed out are doing a bunch of drugs all the time rock and roll having tons of sex all the time azt we have actually a control group for this because we have someone here who had that level of fame so when you were like at the top of your power how would someone have put you in check if they wanted to because like when you're like freddie mercury level i feel like no one can tell you anything you're damn right yeah if they try you're out of there right you're not
Starting point is 00:22:36 gonna tell me i made this money this is my money and i'll do with it as i choose yeah and that's how it is yeah we're just and most people, they end up dead. That is the truth. But my point is not that you could have stopped Freddie Mercury. My point is that... No, I hear you, but I'm just saying it's interesting we can actually talk to someone on that level of fame. I wouldn't let nobody stop me.
Starting point is 00:22:57 No, but right, right. My point is not that he could have been stopped. My point is, how does this disease come about? Because these people can't be stopped. These celebrities, ultra rock stars, promiscuous. They don't want to stop. It's a big suicidal trip.
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's like, hey, you've reached the peak and you've done everything there is to do. You don't want to downslide. Now, you're not going back. You're going out. Yeah. I want to bring it. No one's going to. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Into the occult. I got to bring it. So it is a dark story to talk about. I mean, no disrespect. It's a terrible story. But we did talk about this great new, there's a great stride that has been taken, is underway. Joe Biden has cured cancer, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:23:35 We have this from the Postmillennial. Joe Biden breaking. He claims we ended cancer as we know it. The real story, because I'm not here to bury the lead or manipulate you, is that Biden mumbled what sounded like we ended cancer as we know it, seemingly on accident. And I just find it kind of sad and humorous. I'm so glad I donated money to him. Oh, my gosh. Let's play the clip.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, and fetter me. If you didn't do anything at all, Joe, what would you do? I said I'd cure cancer. And he looked at me like, why cancer? Because no one thinks we can. That's why. And we can. Yeah, that's why.
Starting point is 00:24:04 We'd end cancer as we know it. Never mind the dead. Should he try to cure drug addiction? Did he cure drug addiction too? Should that be the one? The clip. It's a little late for a bow, huh? I got to say to the post-millennial,
Starting point is 00:24:19 post-millennial, do not clip the audio right after a word is spoken while he's still speaking. Because that diminishes the veracity of making this claim. For all we know, he said, we ended cancer as we know it. What I mean to say is we can end cancer as we know it. But you cut him off and now we don't know the context. But I'll give you some more context if you look this up.
Starting point is 00:24:40 During the campaign, the 2020 campaign, he explicitly said, when I'm elected, we will cure cancer. Yes, he did. Yes. Yeah, he did. But if you look at the whole context, it was like, we're not going to stop until we put enough resources to solve this. So it was out of context. The sentence sounds crazy. And I'm sure that's what it's a throwback for him.
Starting point is 00:24:58 By the way, I had this tweet. And I think you maybe that's what all those bio labs in the Ukraine are for is to come up with a cure for cancer. Maybe. Who knows? And to confirm what you're saying, it was in Ottumo, Iowa, June 11th, 2019. Biden said he would, quote, cure cancer. The other thing that I'm really excited about is if it's Trump, Biden as the two candidates, it will be literally impossible to convince Joe Biden that he's not living in 2020. Literally.
Starting point is 00:25:23 That's what I wondered about what he said here. I think what he meant to say was we're going to cancer as we know it but he said it in the present tense yes he's done he's okay so this is not the worst thing he's done there was the famous story where he kept saying libya instead of syria and it's it's kind of a big deal if the president commander in chief is speaking to the armed forces and this he was he was speaking at the un or whatever but imagine he goes to a meeting in the situation room he's like we got we got to bomb libya and they're like are you sure it's like yeah just get him out of there just just do it and it's like okay i guess then it's like breaking news the next day new york
Starting point is 00:25:55 times u.s declares war on libya and we're like why we did that already though france did it for us yeah you know if he was like instead of saying we gotta send troops and he's talking to his generals we gotta send troops and he says troops are in the generals would be like what they're already in because he's speaking in the present tense there was a lot of talk like this when Trump was in office and people on the left Democrats were freaking out
Starting point is 00:26:16 like they think Trump's an idiot and I can't believe this guy's commander in chief but I don't think Republicans have that fear about Biden because there's really an understanding that he's not running anything he's like saying all these things and everyone about Biden because there's really an understanding that he's not running anything. He's like saying all these things. Everyone's just like, yeah, who cares? Like, we know he's not running the military.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I don't. I don't. 100%. Like, he's, he's, he's, it's, it's never Joe Biden actually calling shots. Yes. He's definitely got handlers that are telling him what to say. He admits it at the podium constantly. And that's his.
Starting point is 00:26:41 They'll get mad at me. They want me to say this. He, he tells people all the time. And that's been his career. That's why he got me. They want me to say this. He tells people all the time. And that's been his career. That's why he got the nomination. He was a team player. He was a party hack. I agree and disagree.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think it's true he has AIDS. HIV. Hey, good news, Jack. Good news, Jack. Joe Biden has White House aides who tell him, his staff members, what to say
Starting point is 00:27:04 and who to call upon and things like this. And he says they're going to get mad. People assume that means there's like has white house aides who tell him his staff members what to say and who to call upon and things like this and he says they're going to get mad people assume that means they're just like there's like a cia puppet master pulling strings when it could just be that biden has staff members who get angry when he asks them for help they give him help and then he doesn't do what they say it doesn't mean that he's literally being told he has to do things i think it's a combination of the two i think he does just go with the flow and is told to do things but then he also just does things himself and that creates chaos i also think that in many ways is similar to trump because
Starting point is 00:27:34 trump very clearly seemed to not be a big picture was a big picture guy and wasn't worried about the minutiae and it seemed very clear it's like okay i trust you because when you're running like a trump organization hotel organization you're not looking at the hotel in Atlanta, the hotel in New York. You have someone you trust. They're there. And you delegate it. So, you know, that's kind of, I'm sure that was the situation during his presidency. And that's why a lot of it went off the rails because he didn't have a strong deck of people to staff.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And then they're just going rogue. Yeah. And bragging about it. I don't know. I don't even think this Biden is the other Biden. You don't look nothing like the original Biden. Neither do you. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Look who's talking. Yeah, that's true. He got plastic surgery. That's the funniest thing. Is that what it is? Yeah, he got hair plugs for sure. And he got lifts. I'm pretty sure he got a facelift.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Oh, yeah, he's got a lift for sure. But it's not, I mean, the old Biden has a much squarer face. Yeah, well, they pull your flesh back, you know. Well, I've had that, so I know that. But still, his cheekbones were much wider and... Are you the original Joe Biden? Is that what you're trying to tell us? I think he's being portrayed by an actor.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I do. I think he's wearing a mask and he's being portrayed by an actor. A flesh mask. Did you guys see the Jamie Foxx video? No. Jamie Foxx put out a video and he's like, hey guys, you know, I'm alright. And then everyone started showing these like celebrity headshot pictures of his face alongside his
Starting point is 00:28:50 cell phone video where he's pale. And it's really simple. It's the width of the camera lens. So, Google this YouTube video, camera lens, distortion face, and you can see a guy's face changing shape. Wait, hold on. I gotta ask. Roseanne. Monique says they gotta ask rosanne let me ask you
Starting point is 00:29:06 this rosanne if you've you've been in hollywood for decades if you're gonna have an actor who's going to play joe biden when you have an actor who knows how to deliver the lines well they told him to act like he's got the alzheimer's why would you do that when you want an actor who actually doesn't have the alzheimer's no because it's all a show it's all a show for the american people well that's a bit too much now that's a sitcom i would like it's true yeah it's true because people have to see how it works look at it's the sopranos why is nobody seeing what's going on is it's the new sopranos with the biden family i think you should bring back the golden girls and have them but half of all of alzheimer's here's what i think is funny when it comes to the
Starting point is 00:29:51 they show a picture of biden next to an older picture of biden it says by dan or whatever and they're like by dan versus biden like like biden right now is actually by dan they call him and it's and it's like they're they point to his ears being with the pope though right but i'm like okay dude he got a facelift yeah they saw your ears down right right and so people one of my ears is different and they're like why is his face a different shape different camera lens man like there's a bunch of different photos of different people here's did you see the one he was scratching the back of his head and the mask it's not it's his skin it's his loose old skin now it was way too much skin i think it's jim carrey playing it could be jim carrey has been out of the spotlight
Starting point is 00:30:32 no no no no it's all righty then it's it's a wonder years fred savage fred oh and the other guy became marilyn manson do you know you Family Guy episode where Rush Limbaugh was actually Fred Savage? Yes. And he's also Michael Moore. And he's like, after the wonder years, acting dried up, but he had this thirst to act so he just became all of these personalities.
Starting point is 00:30:58 What about this conspiracy theory that it was Barron running Trump's Twitter because no 70-year-old senior citizen could be that much of a great shit poster. It's got to be this kid. Or that Steve Bannon is Barron from the future. Oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway, what were we talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:16 How someone's acting for Biden, acting as Biden. No, it's Biden. That's why he speaks like that because you just can't hit it out of the park. So you've got to pick something that's off and just go commit to it no come on like Joe Biden got a bunch of surgery
Starting point is 00:31:29 he got plastic surgery got his hair done it's really disturbing Hillary Clinton did too he's falling apart he's got plates in his brain he can barely talk it's like
Starting point is 00:31:36 he's just he's just losing it what he's just a placeholder is that what you think yeah that was what magazine was it
Starting point is 00:31:44 Atlantic oh yeah 2020 election they said what magazine was it atlantic oh yeah 2020 election they said time wasn't it with the with the no no no no no no atlantic said stay alive joe biden all we need is your corporeal form yeah they were outright saying we just need a guy who can get votes but i don't care what he does but for four years it was pretty clear during the trump presidency that the president has far less powers than we are told and it was a complaint of his that it's like the government's running itself and I'm not they're they're bragging about how they kind of you know the end runs about him and the press was cheering it on like
Starting point is 00:32:16 especially with the like oh we didn't have any true what do you mean that cheering on the idea that for the first time in my lifetime the president had his authority rescinded and revoked now there's there's bad things to that in terms of what trump want to do like ending war but that the idea that the president all of a sudden was being curtailed i was like wow as a first no but i meant well yeah because that's a disruption of our whole uh constitutional republic but what were they lying about trying to destroy the executive branch and bring up you know was it destroying it or was it just demonstrating how it really works? No, they tried to disrupt the whole balance of power in our government.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They said before Trump even was inaugurated, they were going to impeach him. Yeah. Now we have, I did this, I covered this this morning, Kevin McCarthy announces a strongly worded letter to be sent. After Rand Paul sent a strongly worded letter, a second one. About Fauci. Yeah. About time. The second one, uh-oh, second one opens a third one three strikes and nothing happens
Starting point is 00:33:08 but uh i told you i tweeted i tweeted rand paul that he should ask fauci for a cure for his impotence because it's insane how these republicans uh chuck grassley is another one chuck grassley was the ranking member of the house of the senate excuse me just your committee he wrote letters to the uh do. This is the Trump DOJ about Julie Swetnick. I'm like, this woman's lying brazenly in front of Congress. He doesn't get a call returned, writes another letter a year later, doesn't get a call return, sends out a press release. So the Republicans are bragging that they can't even get a call return. There's something to be cringing and embarrassing about instead of telling your voters. It's
Starting point is 00:33:40 disgusting. So McCarthy announces a potential that this may lead to an impeachment inquiry. Oh, wow. Not even an impeachment. An inquiry into a maybe impeachment later. Click on this link and send me money. That's how it works. It's just a total con job. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:58 They're both in on it. All of them are in on it. All of them. Well, there's times they are changing because we have an election coming up let's jump to this story from nbc news uh okay ron de santis fire staffer who retweeted video with nazi imagery oh god so um they say nate hockman a communication staffer over the weekend promoted and then deleted a video that superimposed a son and rad over the candidate's face i believe that's called the black sun. So this video is super
Starting point is 00:34:28 cringe. It's got Kate Bush playing in the background. It's one of those meme videos. You're not calling her cringe, are you? Kate Bush is the shit. So it's this video where it's like Trump is cringe. Hey, look who's talking.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I know that was a joke, fool. Then how come no one laughed? Because nobody gets me. Hey, someone put a laugh track for Roseanne so she feels more at home. I never use a laugh track. Live studio audience. Hey, I'm not scared of you anymore. I used to be really scared of her, but then I saw she's really sweet.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah, that's right. I ruined your secret. But that's disturbing. Well, so when I first heard this, someone like a pro-Trump kind of person was like, a DeSantis campaign staffer just retweeted this. I saw it, Phil. You retweeted it. You were like, this looks like intentional sabotage or something. It looked like something that someone would do if they were looking to harm the Ron DeSantis campaign. That's why I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I'm like, certainly this is a Trump supporter trying to make it look like DeSantis did something wrong. Firing the guy was the right move, though. That was probably a good move. They don't have the video on here. I think that DeSantis' role in this movie is he's playing the heel for Trump. That's what I think. Do you think they're working? I think it's all a movie, and it's all to get people to actually have some awareness of what's right in front of their damn face and wake up to it.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And, yeah, I think he's playing the you know people that don't want to vote democrat no more they're going either independent or they're actually thinking i'll go a little bit further shoot and maybe i'll vote desantis but then they're like whoa he's even more far right than trump so then they're going to look at trump should i should i play the video so people can see what we're talking about yeah i want to point to point out, too, people said that whoever made it had something against me because the guy's wearing a beanie with the gray brim. Oh, my. It's a woe jag.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I know it's a woe jag. I'm not going to play the audio because it's just Kate Bush, and I don't want to get a cover of it. Running up that hill. I think it is a cover. Dear Republicans, your favorite president. It's basically he's sad and smoking, and he's wearing a beanie and he's got and trump's waving an lgbt flag i'll just jump through it you need to watch the whole thing then it like shows desantis oh you know what i
Starting point is 00:36:52 gotta show the super cringe part when he appears in the door like what what is this look at him and then he's like wearing him oh now the wojek is happy and he's like oh look it's ron desantis spaceships and women in bikinis life is good this is so many levels of irony it's hard to figure out if it's artist or not i that's why i'm like i don't believe they actually made this because it's so cringe but it's the end where the nazis are marching towards the son and rad with the santas in the middle where i was like okay there's no way this is from his campaign if you know what is if you know what the the imagery is it's a very jarring to be like, oh, that's where you're going. I gotta be honest, I started laughing.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, I did too. It's hilarious. I was like, what is this? The whole thing is ridiculous. Here we go. Look. Oh, wow. The way you described it, I thought, oh, it's in the background. The guy didn't notice it. Holy cow.
Starting point is 00:37:44 No, it's like jarring it's spinning around god well the gay lg the gays do not like desantis over what's happening with disney down there holy crap hate him so they're doing this yeah but this was retweeted by his campaign staff so when i actually on the staff not just the supporter no it was just look look this is the story holy crap your staffer who tweeted video with nazi imagery i'm sorry even if that nazi imagery wasn't there you do not retweet this video because it makes the stantis look like a tool oh this is this is the stantis campaign i don't i don't understand how someone had this tweet and you probably know who i referred to i forgot the guy's name and he goes like uh 2020 desantis the greatest government america 2021 2022 2023 like desantis is terrible like it flipped on a dime well because he got he got remember what desantis took measurements against i mean he took measures against the lgbtq plus community in florida and disney and they didn't like that
Starting point is 00:38:51 and then remember just like two weeks ago trump had the big pro-lgbtq party at mar-a-lago desantis is attacking from the from the right i'm surprised what i meant is i'm surprised that how many how the republicans all flipped overnight to hating DeSantis. It was so weird. And I'm not surprised for two reasons. The first attack against DeSantis
Starting point is 00:39:12 was disloyalty. That Trump helped him. Which makes sense. And then DeSantis decides he's going to go to a bunch of big neocon donors, established Republican donors
Starting point is 00:39:20 to run against Trump. It's like, you know, kicking Trump in the butt. Yeah. And he did it because he wanted to go even more right getting rid of gay stuff, which a lot of parents think
Starting point is 00:39:37 was the right thing to do. But then, you know, he brings in Soros as a backer. So it's like, wow. I don't think that's true. He didn't bring in Soros as a backer. He takes Soros don't think that's true that's not he didn't bring a source as a backer he takes soros money i don't think he does no that's a complete that's that's complete i read that in two or three sources you just said 20 minutes ago you don't believe all that stuff that's not true i read it in two or three yeah it's not it's it's complete
Starting point is 00:39:59 like okay so that might not be true no and they and they lied claiming that soros endorsed as andis which is not true either. They've been trying to, look. I don't trust anything that, you know, I want to say this correctly, but anything that has to do with children's school books and being pro-child pornography in the schools, I'm not for that. Okay. And I'm not for anything that George Soros is for. Yes. Amen. And we're both saying this is Jewish people, by the schools. I'm not for that, okay? And I'm not for anything that George Soros is for. Yes, amen. And we're both saying this is Jewish people, by the way.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I'll tell you what this may be. Here's what I thought. When the DeSantis supporters started zealously insulting me. Did they really? Oh, it's relentless. But it's not like, you know, I don't, I get attacked by everybody on Twitter, right? But they act very much like Antifa-style leftists on
Starting point is 00:40:48 Twitter. Yes, they do. Tweet in the very same way. And so at first I thought, these people are trying to sink DeSantis by false flagging him. Pretend to be a DeSantis supporter. Like, you see a lot of these accounts that pretend to be Democrats and say stupid things. People fall for it. And then it was DeSantis' own
Starting point is 00:41:03 campaign staff that started insulting me. Do they really? Like who? I People fall for it. And then it was DeSantis' own campaign staff that started insulting me. Do they really? Like who? Well, I won't name them. They're communications people, right? Okay, I know them. Okay. Yeah, they're miserable at their jobs.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And so without naming, I don't want to get people dragged and then get them mobbed or whatever. But there's a handful of high-profile conservative pundits who were pro-DeSantis all last year and now are outspoken against them because these staffers,
Starting point is 00:41:32 supporters, and surrogates on Twitter are the most vile people. Not all of them. Not every single one. Of course, there are a lot of good people. I have friends who are big... Very fine people. Very fine people. And some I think are very fine people but even when i've defended desantis i get attacked for it and then i get these same people who have
Starting point is 00:41:52 insulted me demanding that i cover their stories in defense of desantis tweeting at me and i'm just like you people are despicable so i'm just like i'm not having it you know you know that video that uh lgbt video that was uh retweeted by the DeSantis War Room? That was made by the DeSantis campaign. They passed it off to a third party to make it seem like they didn't make it. But they did. That's why I think it's COINTELPRO, the whole thing. DeSantis' campaign?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah. Wow. I think he's playing the heel. Something is not adding up because the biggest criticism of Trump, even from Trump supporters, is he didn't deliver the goods. And in his defense, he lost the House. He only had like 50 senators to begin with and whatever. And the argument is, well, DeSantis did in Florida. The fact that he's like overnight become like a joke and like Jeb Bush.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Like I've never seen any politicians fate fortunes flip so quickly in my lifetime how was it because dean but howard got it got her had what had a raw deal right and we could point to something specific that's and i can point to something specific with ron de santis what i'm leading the great american comeback that was his campaign announcement that moment was like a bang and all of a sudden people were like, wow. I think you're right though, Roseanne. Or at least you're saying something interesting in that he went hard against Disney, which is like one of the most powerful corporations on earth.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And then he capitulated. And then Disney never really said anything about it publicly. Oh, yes, they did. Oh, yes, they did. What's her name? Sunny Hoyson on The View. Yeah. She says she drives down the street in florida screaming gay gay gay out the
Starting point is 00:43:27 window oh yeah they came hard well she's maybe she's a homophobe and then disney came hard for him yes and he capitulated he didn't stand up against disney at the very end he totally capitulated at some point they said disney made a statement like, we don't want to bury the hatchet. We don't want to push this any harder. They buried the hatchet by giving Disney everything they wanted. They buried the hatchet in him. Interesting. In his campaign. We're in the age of psychological operations
Starting point is 00:43:56 right now. So to think this, just to pretend like it's another year, another election year, it's like, no, no, dude, we have deepfakes, AI and massive manipulation in the back and some people could be twisting this guy's campaign in brazil i think it was brazil there was some leaked audio uh and they claimed this politician i'm not sure if it was brazil's claim this politician said these offensive things and it turns out that one of them was ai generated one of them was not and
Starting point is 00:44:20 this is exactly what i've been warning about this is exactly what i said when desantis's campaign created deep fake images of Trump and Fauci to smear Trump and then labeled it real life Trump. I'm like, they just crossed a very, very dark line. And DeSantis, they still have the tweet up as far as I know. They never said anything about it.
Starting point is 00:44:37 They never fired anybody. They did nothing. He was fine with it. I think DeSantis in terms of leadership in Florida did a fantastic job. It's great. I think that's the thing right because like it seems like if you took off his name and you ask all these people who hate de santis would you support a governor with this record of president they trip over themselves until there's a disconnect here for me until you see his leadership sure sure until you see the the mistakes made by the campaign the the his failures to address them and you've got. And you get all these people who support him saying that policy matters more than charisma, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And I'm like, dude, let me just say, I think he is the best politician in the country in terms of what a politician can be. In Florida, he did a great job. Ask yourself, after all these great things, why his polls are sinking. Well, people in Florida feel like he just walked out on them to go campaigning. They say he hadn't finished half of the stuff he was in the middle of, and he capitulates at the end. So, you know, a lot of people in Florida are mad because he kind of just goes, hey, I did a great job here for two years. See ya. But, you know, that's just the nature of politics in the United States. So you get a chance to race. You have to get a billion dollars to lose an election.
Starting point is 00:45:46 It's just so obscene. I'm going to make two points about that. Here's the other thing that's really crazy. If you have any criticism of Joe Biden on social media, right away, you're a Trump supporter, right? If you have any criticism of Trump, oh, you're a DeSantis supporter. If you have any criticism of DeSantis, you're MAGA. It's bizarre how binary it's gotten.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I'm just going to make two points. One is the argument for DeSantis running now was Obama in 08, where Obama was supposed to wait his turn. It was supposed to be Hillary's nomination. Obama said, screw that. He got that and he became the White House. So there's a path there for DeSantis historically. The other is until Trump, the nominee for the Republican Party was always for 40 years, the guy who lost the last time. Reagan lost in 76 against Gerald Ford. he was the nominee in 80 uh george w bush uh ran against reagan in 80 became the nominee in 88 bob dole ran in 92 so the pattern could mitt romney lost um against mccain then he became nominee 2012 trump broke
Starting point is 00:46:36 that pattern so there's also room for running and losing this is the republican party at works and then being the nominee the next time i I don't believe there is a traditional path to the presidency for Ron DeSantis or Vivek Ramaswamy or Tim Scott. But I say Vivek because he's in third place in most of the polls, even rivaling DeSantis. There's no traditional path. The path for these gentlemen, presumably DeSantis in second place, maybe Vivek keeps rising in the polls, is going to be Trump's indictment and removal from the ballot. Or forced to step down yes yeah i don't think that i don't think that uh that's going to happen because i
Starting point is 00:47:12 don't think they can um they can indict him for a hundred years and that isn't going to stop can i say one thing though because and they can't like keep him off the ballot although here's where you're wrong something really yeah something really bad is happening now with biden uh pointing biden's they say biden's going to come out and say oh the cia is going to be in charge of 2024 elections here's something i learned about when i was writing the book the white pill about the soviet union you can you know sit there and you could be like there's nothing you could do to me. I'm going to be the nominee. I'm going to run. I'm going to run. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I don't care. You throw the charges you want. What these totalitarian regimes do, and I'm not saying we're in a totalitarian regime, but I'm just saying what evil people do, they go, that's cool. You've got a wife, right? And you've got kids, right? And you've got grandkids, right? Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:47:59 We're not going to do anything to you. So very quickly, when you start targeting those people everyone starts to fold and with good reason so they have a lot of those cards to play and i wouldn't put it past them there was especially with the the trump organization indictments i'll keep this vague that's true because of that but there was an individual who was running who dropped out uh recently and this had been discussed publicly but i'm not going to say the individual's name because their family but they dropped out because of the risk of their family yeah and this was like a trump maga candidate and so we'll just leave it at that but this is a reality yes well oh it's just so
Starting point is 00:48:33 scary and horrible i i just i'm so afraid i just have to say i'm so afraid what what are you afraid of what's happening to our country and how divided we are, how we can't get together to make it better for all of us. We'll go down fighting each other. Owners are getting richer. It's just awful. But, Roseanne, look at it away. When the government gets together, it screws over the middle class in favor of people who have political access and power. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I'm scared of that and how bad it's going to get regular people do you think we should abolish 17th amendment which one is that uh popular vote for senators by i think that's a great idea because then that's a great idea but i don't know about it what the senate used to be appointed by each state like the house the legislature of each state would pick the senators i thought it was still that way no no you vote for your senator in whatever state you live in right no but it used to be like the the people don't vote the state congress picks the senators for the federal government so the texas legislature will pick the two senators and you know why they oh my god i didn't know how stupid
Starting point is 00:49:38 am i no it's just but you know why people were picking no they are now but after this amendment this is like in the 1890s 1910s 19 uh Oh, no, they got to get rid of that. So you know what the reason for it was? I didn't know. The reason for it was because they said that political insiders were choosing their friends to become senators. And so they said, this is corruption. How do we stop it? Have the people directly vote for their senator, which I think was a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And the big cost is the whole point was that the senate and the house were especially as different as possible the senate were like the like um representing the states and also kind of this aristocracy like big shots who go into washington they're kind of like elites and they're there to represent the state specifically and they're not going to be privy to like the popular whims of the day whereas the house yeah is like the low lives wasn't it lords and commons yeah kind of sort of the the house are like the lowlifes the i don't mean that in a negative way just like the rabble and it's like this is where we make our voices heard but so so what would happen is this you in your local district state district vote for a senator
Starting point is 00:50:38 representative you're more likely to know them because they're only representing a couple like a couple thousand to 10,000 people. That individual then votes for a senator. So you now have to be involved in local politics. 70th Amendment got rid of that, and now nobody even knows who their local reps are. They don't know who their mayors are half the time, probably more than half the time. But that's also a good thing in this sense because a lot of times these local governments, and you see even the New York City City City Council they're a lot less partisan and ideological because they're more like cutting deals and like
Starting point is 00:51:08 doing maybe New York is a bad example recently but a lot of it's just cutting deals and trying to figure out what's going to work for everybody and you're less driven by the party elites. Well it's just like the guy that owns the biggest used car lot has the biggest say in Congress. Yeah. Which is
Starting point is 00:51:24 so corrupt and so horrible i mean i think we should really take a look at our government i i like trump for that reason because i thought he could streamline things and make them more fair and more workable not just him but a whole a whole bunch of people who had the human being's best interest in mind who do you think for 2024 michael what who would i think in what capacity mind. Who do you think for 2024, Michael? Who would I think in what capacity? Like president. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like who would you prefer if you had to make a choice, be president based on who's available to choose? I know the chat room is going to have a meltdown. I know, I know. What I would love to see happen. Don't say Robert F. Kennedy Jr. No, I'm not going to say that he's a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I think he's, I'm not joking. Really? I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. No, I'm not going to say that. He's a sociopath. I think he's, I'm not joking. Really? I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an absolute sociopath. I do too. You should interview him. What's that? You should interview him. Sure, I'll be happy to interview him.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I'm sure he's perfectly charming, but the Kennedy family are very evil. They gave Rosemary Kennedy a lobotomy and they sent her away, pretended she was just on vacation for decades. This is why they started the Special Olympics. Look them up. They're, they're really sinister people. Joe Kennedy's.
Starting point is 00:52:28 They're a drug dealing family. This is talk about banana Republic. This is how like things happen in South America. There's a big drug dealer like Pablo Escobar and they, they take over the government. That was kind of a notoriously stolen president. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:39 1960. My point is what I would love to see happen is to have a corpsey Biden and a massive Republican reaction in the Congress. And I think that is not. And that's the only way we in our life. Hold on. Hold on. Let me finish. I told you the chat was going to freak out.
Starting point is 00:52:57 That's the only time in our lifetime where we had a balanced budget was when you had a very weakened Democratic president and a very insurgent Republican Congress. What year was that? 97, 98. Balanced budget? We're so past a damn balanced budget. That's what they said in 94, and then they did it. We got China in Cuba, and Russia coming for us now. What are you talking about a balanced budget?
Starting point is 00:53:22 We're going to have another Cuban missile crisis right at our doorstep within six months what is that doj what does one have to do with the other we're good they're gonna bomb us to the next world so we should spend more money hell yeah and not pay a dime of it back hell yeah i'm more concerned about the doj i i think if there is a big house majority then mayor garland's going to get impeached i don't think so well okay that's my prediction so what we see taylor green has already started talking about it the you've got a decent handful of insurgent republicans right now they're pushing really hard and even then not pushing as hard as many people want and then if we get if you get a republican majority it's still gonna be dominated by neoc then if we get if you get a Republican majority,
Starting point is 00:54:05 it's still gonna be dominated by neocons. Not necessarily that if it's a huge reaction. Here's one. Here's my other concern. And I think everyone agree. If you have Trump in again, which there's definitely pluses to that. I think on the state level, people like Whitmer, Newsom, Kathy Hochul are gonna be pushing policies that are so deranged and radical as a reaction to Trump that we're it's going to make 2023 look like a cakewalk well what about that's a big fear of 2023 michelle meaning what they pushed in 2023 is going to look like nothing compared to what they push 20 you mean or no like like now the kind of shit they're pushing now would you feel better if it was michelle obama's president and then a republican resurgence i want a corpse but the only problem i have is like what
Starting point is 00:54:42 rosanna was saying about cuba like like military you know international military command michelle obama is in any way qualified to deal with some type of military uh issue in in cuba that she did that diet thing about she's got a and i'm not saying she's the greatest i'm not saying she's the greatest military commander yeah i kind of picked her because she i don't think she's the best or even a great military commander. I have nothing to go on but way better than someone falling into dementia. No, it doesn't matter. In this context, it doesn't matter. She just said that he cured cancer.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I know what you're saying. Michelle Obama, who's ignorant about military, whatever, military action, or Joe Biden, who's not in contact with reality. It doesn't matter because the people making the decisions are still going to be the general. Yes, that's exactly. I agree with you. But that's not good. Listen. No, no one's saying it's good. It's not up for debate.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I think Barack would kind of run the show. He already is. Yes. This is his third term. Listen, there's nobody but Trump. Nobody but Trump can do what needs to be done. And you know what? They're already, you know, you're going to say everything I say is tinfoil hat,
Starting point is 00:55:56 and my son does too, I know. But people. That's quite an intro. But I think things are going to change real big by the end of the year i do i just i agree with you i don't think that the republicans are going to impeach nobody they're all in bed and they all took epstein i'm not wait i'm no wait hold on they're not going to do i'm saying if there is a huge reaction against but because when biden was elected in 2020 or voted in wherever calm down, chat room, for the first time like ever, the House of the other party picked up seats.
Starting point is 00:56:29 So what I'm saying is if Biden squeaks through in 2024, it would not be impossible for the House to massively have that red wave that was supposed to happen in 2022. And then they might be enough to actually start really doing impeachments. I don't even think we're going to have an election, Tim. I don't think we're going to have no election, Tim. I don't think we're going to have no election in 2024. You want to bet money? I'll bet. How much?
Starting point is 00:56:48 100 bucks? How much you got? Not as much as you. I'll bet big. I don't think we're going to have no election. $1,000. All right, I'll bet.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Shake hands. I hate shaking hands. Go like this. It's worth it. Oh, that was a good one. $1,000. So if we have an election in 2024, you're going to give me $1,000?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Uh-huh. Okay. Jake, does she have it? Yeah. Does she have... You don't, you're going to give me $1,000? Uh-huh. Okay. Jake, does she have it? Yeah. You don't have a Britney Spears relationship with her, right? She has control of her money. I got $1,000 but you're going to have to pay me $1,000 when we do not have no election.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I would be delighted. And I'll buy you a nice dinner on top of that. Why do you think there won't be an election? Because I think the corruption is just beginning to come out and i think it's going to avalanche the corruption of the biden administration and the money they took first it's going to be about ukraine and russia then it's going to go into china then it's going to go into the doj and it's going to be like a big old that would prompt an election huh that
Starting point is 00:57:43 would prompt an election no because i think that it's going to get so bad in the streets too that i think the military is going to step in i mean michael we've talked about the uh many people have come on the show said this is like the one time they actually are not convinced there will be an election that is not to say we hear that every four years but no no no no come on yes we do not like now i remember very vividly in newsmax.com in 2000 they were arguing that clinton is not going to leave the white house and they argued that in 2016 yes but that's not every single time this is the trump the culture war period do you want to end this action too i'll bet a thousand dollars with you too i didn't say
Starting point is 00:58:19 there wasn't gonna be election i'm saying we've had people on the show where we've discussed what is the potentiality what is the percentage rate of there not being an election and it's not zero we had that's it's not zero that's fair we had an election during the civil war we had an election during world war ii so i'm my the best predictor of future behavior is history so if there was precedent for canceling elections i'd be more receptive to this argument i don't and here's the thing they don't need to cancel it exactly that's the point like it's much serving it's much better for them to have a perception that we this is we have a when Trudeau got re-elected hold on let me finish my point in one second when Trudeau just got re-elected with the exact same number of seats as previously he said oh I have a mandate so they will absolutely
Starting point is 00:59:00 have the election whatever happens they'll say we have a mandate with whatever we need to clarify this we need to clarify information comes out we need to prove uh things that certain people don't think are ever going to be proven okay we need to clarify this bet what do you mean by election uh i i mean um um a a presidential election. Yeah, people go in and vote. Okay, so in 1876, people went in to vote. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And then the president was determined by a committee. No, there were two sets of electors in Florida. I just read a book about this. But they had an election. And the election didn't matter. It did matter.
Starting point is 00:59:38 It just, it was a question of which votes are the ones to count. And you know why, who decided which votes to count? Because, yeah, they had a conference. But they still had the election.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And they decided, we are going to end Reconstruction, and we are going to split this up so that we don't have another— That's a historical myth. I'm telling you, I just read a book about this literally in the last six months. But why is that book correct and what I read not correct? Because, okay, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. The point is, I just read a book about this. This has been a historical thing that they cut this deal behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:00:06 It was much more complicated than that. That's all I'm going to say. But I'm not here to argue it's 1876. Well, with modern day elections, I'm concerned that there's going to be a dog and pony show. And they're like, hey, everybody voted. And they're like, but we're just going to go in the back room and count it and tell you what the answer is. You're like, dude, show me the votes in public. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Like, there's no, for them to actually have military law, it's really hard to put that over. But we might already be under military law, and a lot of people don't know that we are. Have you seen what your average SWAT team looks like? They look just like Special Forces. Well, Obama militarized the police. Let me just read this for you. Sure. I'm not saying you have to believe it, but this is just Wikipedia, and it's not like it's an absolute source.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Sure. It says, the result of the'm not saying you have to believe it, but this is just Wikipedia, and it's not like it's an absolute source. Sure. It says, the result of the election remain among the most disputed ever. Right. Although it is not disputed that Tilden outpolled Hayes in the popular vote, there were wide allegations of electoral fraud, election violence, and other disenfranchisement of predominantly Republican black voters. After a first count of votes, Tilden had won by 184 to Hayes' 165, with 20 votes from four states unresolved.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Florida, Louisiana, South Carolina, both parties reported their candidate to have won the state. Oregon won elector, etc., etc. An informal backroom deal was struck to resolve the votes, the Compromise of 1877. In the deal, the Democrats conceded the 20 contested electoral votes to Hayes, resulting in a 185 to 184
Starting point is 01:01:20 victory. In return, the Republicans agreed to withdraw federal troops in the South, marking the end of Reconstruction. Right, but there's a difference between withdrawing troops and ending Reconstruction. Well, sure. Whatever it is, the point is, the election did not matter.
Starting point is 01:01:35 You can argue that the election mattered in the sense that the votes were there, but if it ultimately comes down to a group of men meeting and saying, which votes should we count right my point is not that the votes are completely out of the question and have nothing to do with what's going on it's that the decision ultimately comes down to a group of better men would you consider that that's that's the electoral college right like there was arguments in 2016 that even the people who trump had won those states they should still vote for
Starting point is 01:02:03 hillary like there was a lot of corporate journalists arguing. Were they Hamilton electors or Hamilton electors? My point is, are we going to have an election where even, you know, where the votes come through, there are some legal battles, but ultimately they count and we're like, that's it? Or is it going to be a dispute where everyone's fighting and arguing in the streets?
Starting point is 01:02:22 I think that's what it is. And I lean towards your line of thinking. So there will be an election is what i'm saying the votes will be counted and then just like 2020 there is going to be widespread dispute here is why i don't think there's going to be people in the streets because there weren't people in the streets during covid so americans what are you talking about yeah there were hold on i know the blm people what i'm saying is a lot of these the lockdowns and the and the pushback was far less than if you had set us all down i think everyone in this room and it was 2019 and you said all right if these
Starting point is 01:02:55 state governments are going to make it that you're not allowed to leave your house for two weeks for basically for a lot what a lot of people think is no reason are the american people going to stand for this or is there going to be violence we would have all said they're never going to be able to get away with it but they did so i i disagree okay let me hear you so why did people riot like crazy all over the country we we joke we call it the 529 insurrection now on the surface the media says black lives matter but as we've discussed in great detail the real reason people in new york were rampaging through the streets was because they were locked inside and they had gone insane and then their anger was directed towards some random cause so you had the famous story where a guy calls 9-1-1 after people were ransacking his
Starting point is 01:03:35 building ransacking his apartment building had nothing to do with blm he called the police said they're breaking into my building what do i do and they said sir the city is under attack what would you have us do on the surface everybody said it was blm but the real anger that was within people was because they had been isolated they were getting pain sickly from lack of vitamin d malnourishment and then a catalyst sparked it off and they went nuts i don't think there was as much anti-covid pushback in the anti-COVID populations and areas as I would have expected in 2019. I agree.
Starting point is 01:04:09 That's all I'm saying. I agree with the idea that Republicans and conservatives who were complaining didn't do anything else. That's all I'm saying. But I believe the real reason for the mass unrest
Starting point is 01:04:17 was not George Floyd. That was just a spark to give an excuse to people who are losing their minds. I don't think they lost their minds. Think about it, though. They weren't losing their minds. Think about it, though. They bust in people and paid left piles and pallets
Starting point is 01:04:29 of bricks and stuff. They brought in their operatives and took advantage. We don't know that's true. It is true, because it was all over the news. They'd find... People were posting old photos of construction sites and then claiming that they were just placed there.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But that's just Internet conjecture. Tim, you had a lot. But I saw I saw a lot of stuff on the Internet. I see some things that would like January 6th suggest to me that there were operatives who took advantage and were being busted and paid to aggravate bad situations. So you think the riots were not people pushing against COVID?
Starting point is 01:05:19 I think there were people. Yeah, I think there was all of that. I think there was that, and I think there were aggrav. Yeah, I think there was all of that. I think there was that. And I think there were aggravators added to it. What about Ferguson? No one was locked in their homes during Ferguson and there was riots for a the country. At the same time. And even in small cities that people never covered. Michael Tracy famously went down to these cities. That was unprecedented.
Starting point is 01:05:51 When Michael Brown was killed, we didn't see writing to that degree outside of Ferguson. It was just Ferguson. Which is exactly my point. It didn't come from the grassroots. It did not come from the grassroots. Michael Brown was all in the media too. It didn't come from the grassroots. It came from agitators, and they were paid.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I don't know. My point is people who turn on their TVs, who have been angry for a very long time, who've been taught that things are shitty for them, that they should be angry, so on and so forth, saw that they could go out and manifest their anger and not only have no consequences, but will be lauded for it.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I agree. So that's going to encourage a lot of people who don't have to lose their minds. I agree with you. And what I'm saying is the anger was not because of Black Lives Matter, a small component. Their anger was because people were locked in their apartments and couldn't leave. They were becoming dejected, angry and vicious. And then they said, hey, you're angry at this. And they were becoming dejected angry and vicious and then they said hey you're angry at this and they were like i can go outside and be angry now and they let it all out being part of it too yeah i can see that being a part of it but i think that they i think
Starting point is 01:06:55 that the owners of this country saw an opportunity to uh burn down small businesses yes burn down small businesses and hurt uh neighborhoods that they had already targeted anyway with big corporate uh fascism you know it is i i've said this before and i want to say it to get your guys's reaction 529 far-left extremists tore down the barricades of the white house injuring 70 plus police officers set fire to a guard post right set fire to saint john's church forced the president into a bunker if donald trump ordered the police to stand down he would be president today ordered the police to stand down on 5 29 2020 if donald trump ordered the police if bill barr whoever ordered the police in dc to stand down and let the far left do whatever
Starting point is 01:07:43 they want we would not be talking about january 6th yeah but we'd be talking about the torching of the white house but can is i mean we would have had the white house torched so what would have happened there's also some downsides i guess well so so my point is this and donald trump did does not understand politics, strategy, culture, culture, war, conflict, etc. January 6, the police are taking selfies with people. It becomes the insurrection. If these extremists burn down St. John's Church, if they tore the fences down, if they actually breached the White House, Trump would come out and say, we had fear that innocent people would be harmed if we if we advanced and engaged in active conflict in
Starting point is 01:08:25 the streets of dc we decided the smartest thing to do would be to save personnel and back off i'm sorry america far left extremists have destroyed elements of dc in our government and that would have justified insurrection act or other actions bothers me about january 6th man i understand what you're saying yeah like letting people destroy your home just to play the victim and be like, oh, look what they did. Don't nobody live in the Capitol. Right, right. So the issue is this. Donald Trump stopped the 529 insurrection.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Wait a minute. Okay, let me ask this. Why do you think they put up all those barricades and barbed wire fences around D.C.? Are you talking before January 6th or afterwards? Afterwards. Afterwards was as a show of force. To basically intimidate the American people.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Tim, I would agree with you. Why was everything facing in and not out? Why were the fences facing in towards the Capitol? I don't think that's true. Look at it! We have people who come's true. It's like American bureaucracy. Look at it. Yeah, but we have people who come from D.C. all the time. That was not something anyone ever said, and we never saw it.
Starting point is 01:09:32 The thing about 529, I would agree with you more if the media weren't, especially at that time, so invested in scripting a narrative that was only tangentially related to reality. And I think you remembered, everyone here, hold on, let me finish my point point remembers very vividly that we were told that covid's a problem you have to stay in your house and then as soon as these riots hit off you have to be in the streets protesting and you're going to be immune from covid and there's a limit there is a limit that regular americans can withstand i what i don't think trump standing down would have hit that limit i'm sorry i just say if they rip the fancy right the white house and burn down saint john's church saint john's church was on fire yeah and they stopped it if they didn't it would have burned to the ground and they would have and then people but then they would have won
Starting point is 01:10:14 and this no no they they they did win so the issue is this do you think like the cia i'll put it this way i was talking to occupy wall street activists back 12 years ago and i said do you think like the CIA, I'll put it this way. I was talking to Occupy Wall Street activists back 12 years ago. And I said, do you think that it's fuel Japan? The ninja warrior walks up to the front gates and knocks on the emperor's door and say, we hereby demand the emperor stand down. Yeah, he says, I'm the one who knocks. Or does the ninja dress like a servant, sneak in in the middle of the night, put a drop of a few poisons to the emperor, and then sneak out. In warfare, it's surreptitious, it's espionage, it's manipulation, it's psychological conflict in warfare.
Starting point is 01:10:53 My point is this. Nobody should be violent. January 6th should never have happened. 5 to 9 should not have happened. My point is, whether you care, it has nothing to do with what should or shouldn't happen. It has to do with the logical steps of what does happen. On January 6th, people stormed into the Capitol.
Starting point is 01:11:08 The media then showed all these images and said, insurrection, violence, breaking out, people fighting, and that terrifies people who don't pay attention. Sure. If, on 5-29, they did the same thing and had the police taking selfies with protesters and letting them ransack, the media can try,
Starting point is 01:11:23 and that is an advantage that the establishment has. But there is a limit. St. John's Church being burnt to the ground, guard posts being burned, the president being locked in his bunker for two days. They burned down police stations and no one cared because they weren't disgusted. That's not true that no one cared.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Black Lives Matter went from its highest approval rating ever to its lowest point ever following those. No one cared to the point that it would have made a difference in having trump re-elected i think with i think you're wrong may 29 it all takes like an abc article that says trump let them burn the white house down and that would have just wrecked his chances yes there you go yeah i disagree some people everything bad is trump's fault no some people say this where you're really going to think i'm crazy but some people say that trump signed the thing on december 18th called'm crazy. But some people say that Trump signed a thing on December 18th called continuation. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Some people say, a lot of them military people, and I actually stick my nose in military business, that Trump signed a thing on December 18th, continuation of government, and that we are under limited martial law right now already. None of that stuff's true. How do you know? Mostly because I can go to the store. Because he's deep state.
Starting point is 01:12:36 He's controlled opposition. Come on, Roseanne. I'll show you on the U.S. military sites that I read. I'll start from the beginning. First, we can talk about the MDAA indefinite detention authorization. I believe that they were all arrested. Oh, no. I believe that they took everybody out.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Here we go. Never happened. And that they're playing their parts and that we're going to see military tribunals by the end of this year. I believe it. I'm telling you that. So the military tribunals will be public? They already have happened. Will they be public by the end of the year?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Yes. You want to bet another $1,000? I bet $1,000 on that too. Okay, so $1,000 that there will be no public military tribunals. No, I'm saying there will be. And I'm saying there's not the bet. That's the bet. Limited military tribunals will be shown by the end of this year.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And I'm saying no. So will you bet $1,000? No, it's only like four months. Yeah, I'll bet $1,000 on that. Okay, here we go. I love Roseanne's optimism. I guess when you have Roseanne money you can just make these bets. Is that a joke? Listen, it's not because
Starting point is 01:13:38 we have the video clips here. I can show you clips. This is why I brought her, so I can be rich. I can show you clips and all kinds of stuff that you've never even seen. I can show you clips. This is why I brought her, so I can be rich. I can show you clips and all kinds of stuff that you've never even seen. I can show you stuff. But I'll tell you why I believe it, because I read The Art of War, and I know that Trump's a badass, and he's not going to let any of them get away with anything.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And he locked up Cheyenne Mountain, and they can't get at it. Too bad. How do you know that? Because it's all in the declassified documents. Cheyenne Mountain is and they can't get at it. Too bad. How do you know that? Because it's all in the declassified documents. Cheyenne Mountain is locked up, you say? Yeah, Trump locked up Cheyenne Mountain. Be nice to Roseanne Barr, Tim Pool. No, I don't mind.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Let me tell you my favorite thing ever is we were watching a Flat Earth video last week or two weeks ago. I don't believe the Earth is flat. I'm not saying you do. It's an oval. And my favorite thing. It's a weak spheroid, actually. My favorite thing ever.
Starting point is 01:14:26 It's a cube. You idiot. Okay. Every single diehard flat earther says, why can't we travel to Antarctica? Strange. Exactly. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I know people who went there.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Metallica went there. Joel Runyon did it. They just make it up. That's what that thing was going for, the Titanic deal. It was trying to get to Antarctica. The Pentagon reactivated Cheyenne Mountain in 2020. When did Trump lock it up? This is where they have the Stargate, by the way.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Turn the screen for her so she can see. Before he left. This is where they have the Stargate, by the way. What's in it? Oh. This is where the Stargate is. Go to the headlines so she can see, yeah. This is 2020.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Joshua's in it. When did Trump lock it down? In 21. Trump wasn't president in 21. Yeah, he was the first it. When did Trump lock it down? In 21. Trump wasn't president in 21. Yeah, he was. The first week. Oh, right, right, right, right. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:10 You are absolutely correct. On January 20th. Or the first month, whatever it was. Cheyenne Mountain. You can't trust Google. They're controlled opposition. This is like
Starting point is 01:15:20 underground research facility, Cheyenne Mountain. Look. It's called the DUM, Deep Underground Military Base. The DUM. I'm making so much money. Oh, I was just in Colorado Springs.
Starting point is 01:15:34 They were probably in those mountains. That's where NORAD command is. We drove by there. Look under DUM. Why is it up so high? D-U-M-B. First do Cheyenne Mountain. Look under D-U-M-B. No, first do cheyenne mountain i i did search for it there's nothing there nothing comes up and okay you can make the argument google's hiding it but
Starting point is 01:15:53 yeah they are okay so when when people come out and say when putin gave remember when putin gave trump the soccer ball when When was that? No. Wake up! Remember when they met? Wake up! Google when Putin gave Trump the soccer ball. Oh, there we go. Yeah, 2018. Aha!
Starting point is 01:16:17 Well, it was five years ago. She still got you. She didn't have better. That never happened. I didn't say it didn't happen. I said, what was that? Oh, right. Okay. She didn't have better. That never happened. No, this didn't happen. I said, what was that? Oh, right. I got it. That's what I'm talking about. Diplomacy.
Starting point is 01:16:33 That's over there in Cheyenne Mountain. Check that out. I've got an article from Daily Mail says, why is the U.S. military moving back into Stargate base deep under the Rocky Mountains a decade after it was abandoned? But this is from 2015. Right. Yeah, that's when it started. Twenty fifteen. There are a lot of things we don't know about there's a lot of things the government is doing we don't know and i don't know about honey i am a nosy old jewish woman and i can get in anywheres
Starting point is 01:16:54 you know what one thing is one thing is when i'm you're as famous and damn good looking as me tim i can stick my nose in anybody's business. I know how. I'm a grandmother. And I have stuck my nose in the thick of it this time. Was Michael Jackson guilty what they accused him of? I'm talking about Cheyenne Mountain. You were talking about that.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I know a lot of military people, and I do think that people in America, they're in for a big old wake-up call. Sick. Back to Michael Jackson. Four months. Things are going to get way worse before they get better, but you better wake up. Wake up. Wake up and snap out of it, people. You've got a lot of work to do.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I could imagine deep fake technology unleashed on the humans. There's stuff called talking plasma that the military is working on where they'll triangulate lasers and then create a ball of plasma and they'll move it around on a radar
Starting point is 01:17:49 it looks like a UFO and they can project sound through the thing I got one sentence Roseanne they can clone people Roseanne hold on one sentence
Starting point is 01:17:56 will you please please please have Ian on your podcast I'd love to because I want to talk to him Antarctica that's a big thing two hours of them can i let's get 15
Starting point is 01:18:08 minutes we have the story from the daily mail okay former defense official says the u.s has recovered technology that quote did not originate on this earth discuss i don't buy it they're always going to tell us it's alien it's always a distraction you know the real story is what former defense official says he was told by someone in government they've discovered technology off offer technology so the daily mail is framing it in such a way that it makes it sound like he's definitively saying he was party to it but he's actually if you read it he's actually saying uh america may have in our possession and that uh he believes it happened because uh what's the exact quote? He says, Mellon says he expects new information will surface, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I've been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this Earth by officials in the DOD and by former intelligence officials. You know what that means? That means it originated in Antarctica, which ain't on the Earth, it's under it. There was a Stargate in Antarctica. I'm going to make one point.
Starting point is 01:19:03 My grandfather was a big shot air traffic controller in the soviet union high up in the in the military i'm not high up whatever he's air traffic controller so there's certain levels of clearance he told me that they would see things that could not that yeah these are like trained you know people it's not just some random jerk on the street if someone's jerking high office he would say they would see things on their radar that they could not explain all the time. And this was very understood from both sides. And it wasn't technological. It was like, okay, this doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Radar distortion, I think, is talking plasma or other stuff like it. Lightweight drones also, like metamaterials, things like aerogel, airloy, like hardcore machine material that's lighter than air. They will float in the air. That stuff in the vaccine is, oh what what is it graphene oxide yeah that stuff is the most amazing oh no this is right here rosanna no that stuff is
Starting point is 01:19:51 amazing it's the strongest but it's not in the vaccine you're talking about graphene oh graphene yeah no there you go okay whatever it is they say it's in the vaccine but i don't know that random people say a lot of things strongest thing in the vaccine, but I don't know that. Random people on the internet say a lot of things. But it is the strongest thing in the universe. You can get it from carbon dioxide. You can make it out of the air. Let him go. I have some here. I'm looking for it.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Yeah, you make it out of air, and it can take any shape, right? Graphene? It's hexagonally like honeycomb lattice. One atom thick. The world is breaking down. You can turn it into like, you can make like tubes out of it. Yeah, it can take any shape. I mean, hypothetically, I don't know if any shape is the right phrase because you're talking about things
Starting point is 01:20:29 nanomolecular level are you talking about like a liquid metal yeah material this is like harley you see those videos where the um graphene is being moved around magnetically like you're not getting this back in the room i want to i want to say something michael malice yes sir so it was um i think it was 2006 i had just stopped working at o'hare airport in chicago i had friends who still worked there and they confirmed this story to me i had a friend who was uh i think he was on his way to o'hare i'd worked for american eagle airlines a regional airline you can look up photos of this. The photo of the UFO exists. There was a gray
Starting point is 01:21:08 saucer-shaped object that came down from the clouds and hovered above O'Hare, above the United Express Terminal, which I believe was the C gates. I could be wrong, C or D. And stayed there for a few minutes and then shot straight up into the clouds and punched a hole in it. I don't know A hole in the clouds the clouds a hole in the clouds leaving a hole with sunlight coming through
Starting point is 01:21:28 and apparently a pilot looked out and had some like rudimentary old cell phone with a picture he took a picture of it somehow and the photo exists you can google it you can find the photo people i knew who worked there said they saw it people like these are these are regular guys right mid-40s they're not superstitious they watch football and they played xbox they cared nothing for this and they were like i don't know what that was man and they've seen things so they would know if it's something normal and here's the crazy thing my friend who was on his way to work said on manheim road right next to the airport people stopped their cars in the middle of the road got out and were staring at it okay yeah and then we're just like so what was it we don't know what
Starting point is 01:22:08 it was but uh there's it's a famous ufo story you can read all about it and i had left so i didn't see any of it but i so all i can say is hearsay i asked people who were there and they said they saw it and they couldn't explain it i was talking to kash patel who oh yeah was he at the defense department with trump yes i believe and i was like do we have craft that can go out into space and then go under the ocean and he was like huh can't tell you that one and i was like okay he didn't say yes so thank you he didn't say no he didn't say no and he looked at me like i can't tell you they're 50 years ahead of what we know yeah stuff they can do and i want to Tesla's laboratory that's like 100 years ago the stuff that he was working i got to point out people have posted a lot of fake photos there's weird
Starting point is 01:22:48 cgi garbage and i wonder if it's intentionally trying to shut the story down so here let me pull this up right here this is um musings of an explorer i just googled it and you can see this image which i believe does look like the image i remember i'm not sure and there's something this is this is 2006 this is before iphones cell phones barely had cameras they had really garbage cameras and i don't know how the photo was taken it says taken at o'hare november 7 2006 i had just stopped working there i think in like august and so my friends people i knew were all still there i called them i was like yo what is this i heard the story crazy and uh there's there's supposedly the image can i say one thing just one sentence i want to give a big F you to Ashley St. Clair
Starting point is 01:23:26 because she told me to watch Arrival, and the first two-thirds of the movie are awesome, and then the conclusion sucks, so I wasted two hours of my very short remaining life, so F you, Ashley. So it was Seagate. What? Arrival, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:40 It was Seagate, which I believe is United Express, which was right next to us. So I think we were D and like H. That was the American Eagle gates. So right across, we'd see United Express. We never go there. That's their different company. And it was right above the Seagates.
Starting point is 01:23:56 So the craziest thing, and you read these stories and they say 12 employees saw it. I'm like, dude, I had a friend who worked there and said that people were getting out of their cars in the middle of Mannheim Road, this big state or local highway. It's like that street lights. It's not like an expressway. And let's talk a bit about misinformation. It was hanging around for a while. For a couple minutes.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Let's talk about misinformation. Five minutes. Because there's people who say, there was a book that was published in France at the time claiming that 9-11 never happened and that the World Trade Center towers are holograms, right?
Starting point is 01:24:26 So the point being, if you have any questions about these issues, right away, there's enough misinformation out there. That's true. Like, oh, so you're saying that they're holograms and it was shot down by lasers? So a lot of times, there's enough of this nonsense that's flooded
Starting point is 01:24:39 to make it seem that anyone's asking about something you just talked about, where sane, sober, daylight, working class, regular people see our eyewitnesses you could sweep it all in the rug by just uh um accusing it of being the most extreme version anti-gravity people say no planes flew into not into the yeah right yeah you know they say that was cgi right this is what bothers me about most conspiracy theories is that they people who engage in the most extreme thinking on an issue actually make it impossible right to to to get to the bottom of an issue and so i'll give you an example when the emails got released by wikileaks where uh they started the whole
Starting point is 01:25:15 pizzagate thing someone said is it is it more what do they say is it better to try uh play dominoes on pizza or on pasta one One day, seemingly out of nowhere, someone fabricated this idea that these words were references to children. They were not. Now, there are certainly, CP is a reference thing, cheese pizza was a reference thing, but they conflated this.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And you know what I think it really was? What? Drugs. Yes. With the point, no, no. I'll say one more thing, Tim. It was clearly not pizza. It was clearly code for something.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And we don't know what that is. And then what happens is- Well, when he says, I want pizza for an hour. Right, yeah. Come on. Heroin? Ecstasy? No, but the point is it's not pizza it was clearly called for something and we don't know what that is and then what happens is pizza for an hour right yeah heroin ecstasy no the point it's not pizza the point is it's not right so here's the issue what's something that is entirely believable is that a bunch of white house uh people were doing hardcore schedule one drugs like cocaine at a party and they speak in code and email yes that could. We could easily investigate drug abuse and say we want to get to the bottom of what they were talking about doing but then all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:26:09 the internet blows up with the most insane conspiracies and then immediately the media says this proof is fake and regular people don't question it. I'm going to say one thing. I think they do do that all the time. But here's the thing. I don't think it's that insane because very publicly this administration killed a bunch of kids overseas
Starting point is 01:26:26 and no one even had a demotion for it. Obama? Biden in Afghanistan. They're like, oh, we just killed a bunch of kids. Oh, too bad. No one got reprimanded. So you can't think it's too crazy that people in government are literally killing children all the time. Well, everything that I've said
Starting point is 01:26:42 that my children, I have five children, everything I've said for the last 20 years, they go, Godmother, you and your... They call you mother? When they're pissed. Godmother, you and your ridiculous conspiracy theories. Everything I said has came true three years later. Okay? Every single thing.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Everything? Yeah. When I said it was a pedo Ponzi priesthood pyramid scheme yeah it's all true it's coming true every day well in four months we'll see if uh if the tribunals happen but are you in on the bet tim no i'm a fence sitter all right i want to talk about a little bit about anti-gravity because cut the stream it's a wrap you end on the high note there's a lot of muddied water on anti-gravity that it's impossible. You know, obviously. It's totally possible.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I think it is. And there's something called the Bifield-Brown effect. If you want to look into something that might potentially be asymmetrical capacitor thrusters. And I'm wondering if... I try and do these experiments with Jeremy Riss at his laboratory in New Jersey. And we were trying to figure out if you can increase horizontal velocity
Starting point is 01:27:44 fast enough, you'll reduce vertical velocity to zero. And then you'll be you won't be interacting with gravity. So you'll be falling forward, basically. And you can fall forward in any direction. Well, airplanes overcome gravity. No, they don't. They use wind. They fly in the air. That's not what gravity means.
Starting point is 01:28:00 They're not overcoming gravity. They are too, and so are trees. Trees grow up against gravity. Michael, the UFO is overcoming gravity right now. Yeah, bitch. There's also something called ionic wind, which might be able to use to push metal, super lightweight metal around.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Sam, how do we fund a buddy comedy where they're both cops who have to work together? Like Rush Hour 4. We should do it. Hey, bitch, do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? Now, hold on let me say this
Starting point is 01:28:26 like laboratories Ian mentioned aerogel do you know what aerogel is no I don't it's a solid that's lighter than air or I don't think it's completely lighter than air
Starting point is 01:28:34 I think it is it's not lighter so it floats into the you can like it's a solid and you can like tap it and it will like and it's super heat resistant
Starting point is 01:28:42 you can hit it with like blow torches and it doesn't this has been created or it's hypothetical? Yes, aerogel. Oh, they have aerographite now. Learn a thing or two. It's lighter than air.
Starting point is 01:28:50 It's seven times lighter than air. It is lighter than air. A graphene aerogel. It is that graphene. That's what I'm talking about. We're going to start pulling it out of the carbon dioxide, and then we're going to have to figure out how not to pull too much out because we're competing with the trees.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I think I hear wedding bells. Let's babies are you ready you ready for number six take a look maybe maybe we can find him there isn't i'm not so sure it's lighter than there because if it was lighter and accept that it's fast it's lighter it hit the space yeah it would float it would float to the top of the atmosphere right So, I don't know if they show, but anyway, it exists. Veritasium has a video on it. So here's my point. What about rods from God? Do you know about
Starting point is 01:29:34 that? Yes, that's right. Thorium? No, no. Tungsten rods? Is it? Or is it palladium? But the amount of energy required to get that into space, you're storing the energy and then you have to maintain it. Wait, what are these rods from God? It's a hypothetical weapon where we launch a tungsten rod into space
Starting point is 01:29:52 and then keep it in orbit. And when you release it, it's 10 times more powerful, 100 times more powerful than a nuclear bomb. Oh, okay. Because gravity just falls. But you have to use the same amount of energy to get it into space. Then you have to use energy to maintain its orbit. So people say it's not really feasible.
Starting point is 01:30:08 But here's my point about aerogel. Aerogel being a solid, suppose you can make, like Ian mentioned, graphene aerogel. Suppose you can actually make a super strong structure and then put components in it. So it's now basically an airboat. You mean like Final fantasy yes so with with an airplane with a jet you have wings you an airfoil creates lower pressure on the top higher pressure on the bottom causing it to lift right uh or i don't know i'm not an expert on flight but uh if if when we look at these ufos it could just be a an ultralight solid which can hold
Starting point is 01:30:42 weight and then actually displace enough air so that it's hard for it to go down and then uses standard thrust to move about because bingo that's what i think they are if you wait wait wait real quick sorry something that really blew my mind i never considered until i played horizon forbidden west do you know this video game no i don't it's uh i'm watching arcanoid okay hold on hold on. Oh, great game. Zero Dawn and Forbidden West are video games where it's a post-apocalyptic world. The world's been re-terraformed. Spoiler alert, it's an old game. But something I never considered.
Starting point is 01:31:12 In the new game, the character fights a guy who has a force field shield. After defeating him, she takes the shield and she jumps off buildings, activating it, and glides with it. Cool. buildings activating it and glides with it cool and then i realized if force fields existed humans could just fly using the force field because it's weightless and displaces matter the idea that you have a shield that weighs nothing you'd parachute down and it would be weightless that's crazy theoretically if the force field could extend wide enough you would not fall it's a lot like a boat you go right a boat in the water the boat has air and it's lighter than the water we're sitting in a room
Starting point is 01:31:48 with a rock star so does hearing all this geek talk make you like is this like garlic to a vampire like like isn't this like the opposite of being a rock star talking all this geek stuff no no no nowadays the the backstage it's all nerds on their computer. Like the thicker the glasses the guitar player is wearing, the more likely it is that you're going to die in that pit. And Phil was saying that backstage all the time they were playing D&D. That's all they did. That kind of stuff, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Their magic gathering, that does happen. Oh, nice. That is pretty wrong. Well, rock star stuff is vibration and frequency and sound and all that. That's all that stuff. That's true. That's a good point. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:29 That's all physics. Yeah, the chymatics. It's where you vibrate a membrane with sand on it. It'll take these different patterns depending on the frequency. I got a question. What's your karaoke song? Mine's Baby Got Back. Nice one.
Starting point is 01:32:45 I like that one. Yeah, my friend wrote a takeoff of that called Baby Got Front for girls. It's so funny. What's your karaoke song, though? Oh. Jake, what's my karaoke song? You don't karaoke. No one likes when you sing.
Starting point is 01:33:05 You train them well. There you song? You don't karaoke. No one likes when you sing. You train them well. There you go. I can't remember. Oh, Cowboy Sweetheart. Oh, okay. I like that one. What's yours, Michael? Probably Take Me Home Tonight.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Oh, it's a good song. Who sings that? Eddie Money. Oh, I love Eddie Money. He's so good. I think I'm going to go with Plush by Stone Temple Pilots. I like hitting those high notes. Oh, this is more off topic than graphene. you no i'm saying i just don't have one oh
Starting point is 01:33:28 you're looking you're like i can't believe we're having this conversation like i might be emotion you must have a lot of songs we are the champions that's the one oh i was just singing that because i just saw bohemian rhapsody yeah and that song's so good it's good it is the best song ever do you go into doesn't it go into another song? They always play like the two back to back. It's we are the champions and we will rock you. What was it like? He doesn't say of the world in the end.
Starting point is 01:33:54 That was a, that was a version that was made for the credits of like the mighty ducks or something. Oh, everybody, everybody always. Yeah. Everybody always sings of the world and something like that,
Starting point is 01:34:04 but it's not actually in the original song. It's in like a remake. world. Something like that. But it's not actually in the original song. It's in like a remake. Oh. Something like that. I could be wrong. We're going to go to Super Chats. Before we do. You guys can ask about karaoke songs.
Starting point is 01:34:14 I'll finish up this metaphor about your boat in the air theory. Because if you vacuum out a really strong piece of metal, then it becomes you have the vacuum that's increasing how much lighter it is. Anyway, we'll go deeper into that. All right, everybody, if you haven't already. That's about atoms in space. We have to talk about that. Would you kindly smash the like button, subscribe to this channel,
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Starting point is 01:34:47 All right, here we go. God's other son says, imagine going back to 1990 and telling people that one day Roseanne Barr would be better looking than Madonna. Everyone said that. It was all over the place. It's true. It's the truth. Wow.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Take the compliment. Did you know her back in the day? I did. I met her a few times. She's a very nice older woman. I feel so sad that when people get over. Shade. The shade.
Starting point is 01:35:16 I caught that. I love you so much. Artists are kind of, I don't want to derail too much, but they're kind of like. That ship has sailed. They kind of speak for the humanity. You know, like Chris Cornell overdosing, Prince overdosing. It's like horrific because our society has fallen into that mess. And to see Madonna. A lot of people want out of here, you know, party your way out.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Yeah. A lot of people. Die young, stay pretty. Yeah. We have a very, very serious super chat. Dean 99 said, uh, 99 Ted says we had someone tried to get our chickens today tim always warned us i just didn't think it would be this soon but really some people steal chickens yeah of course but what i what i'm what i'm how much does a chicken cost like a couple bucks
Starting point is 01:35:56 right yeah well no no no no situation uh a layer a hen that can lay eggs, 20 bucks. Maybe more these days. Baby chicks are a couple dollars, five bucks. But it could be like 20 bucks. I had Japanese. I had all sort of UN kind of variety of chickens. I had some Japanese. Did you say UN? I thought UN. You know, a variety of countries.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's what Chicken City is, basically. We've got like, we have a Polish a chicken city is basically we've got like uh we have a polish rooster he's luke we named him after luke because luke's polish you know he's got a crazy haircut but they they can cost a couple hundred bucks oh yeah oh yeah the fancy breeders of course fancy breeds and the bigger ones and stuff but uh when i get a black one
Starting point is 01:36:38 what's the black japanese silky what is it called uh we have we i think we do have with black they have black meat uh we don't have those we have the silkies they have blue meat okay we do have the all black chickens okay they're complete even their eyes and their feet and everything and then we have green eggs we do get green eggs from a couple of our easter i think they're easter eggers but then we have um jersey giants and they're they're black chickens and they're huge very big and we have a brahma we have a brahma boy because he you know roberto i think roberto and sarah had a baby and she's a brahma he's red on red so but i was warning people is that when society collapses you'll be in your house and you'll hear rustling and you'll run out into the backyard and see some dude in a flannel shirt suspenders with a handlebar mustache
Starting point is 01:37:19 grabbing one of your chickens just like charles crying and being like i'm just so hungry and you'll be like let me put my chicken down and these urban liberal hipsters who are starving will be looting your farm for whatever they can eat that's true you know i caught all these uh asian folk in my yard over there in hawaii i had ducks everywhere because i i should have crushed their eggs but they were cute i ended up with about 40 ducks in my backyard. Wow. And here come all these couple old Asian women with nets stealing my ducks. And then my son says, oh, you know, Mom, they own that Chinese restaurant over there.
Starting point is 01:37:56 They were really stealing your ducks? Yeah, they're cooking them and selling them. Oh, not in Hawaii. No, Hawaii, like there's all kinds of wild, like there's wild chickens everywhere. Yeah, no, but migratory birds are federally protected, I'm pretty sure. Not in Hawaii. Not domesticated ducks. They're not protected.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Domesticated ducks aren't protected. Right, right, but that's what I'm saying. If they were just ducks randomly laying in there. Yeah, I guess they're not going to be migratory in Hawaii. Yeah, they're farm dogs. No, they live there. So, you know, I'm like, that's cool. They're just.
Starting point is 01:38:20 What? Let's like, I want to. I got this important one from Patricia Swisher. Michael, what's on your shirt? Oh, you can't see? That's a great shirt Andrew Gillum? You gotta move the mic, we can't really read
Starting point is 01:38:32 Andrew Gillum Who's Andrew Gillum? Tell me Didn't he run against the test? He's that guy who got found buck naked doing drugs in the hotel He's the guy that likes to party On second thought someone should have stopped him yeah yeah there you go someone someone should have at least said pump
Starting point is 01:38:50 the brakes see i don't know if i can take your biden pick seriously for president because you said you wanted a biden i said but i i had i cat there was a big caveat he said biden with a huge republican but you also said he had to have... From Pennsylvania to be his VP. Fetterman. Fetterman's my answer. Fetterman is absolutely my answer for a president. Hey, Gazinia!
Starting point is 01:39:16 Is that what he said? Yes. I'll tweet it again. Hey, Gazinia! It's so sad. He was on Time Magazine. Is that fake? Is that real? When Joe biden said turn it on a shot of the pressure and they went yeah i'm like what is going on why what is this it's it's scary what about the fact that person of the year was a uh high school dropout who's like mentally ill greta thunberg and
Starting point is 01:39:43 everyone's oh my god she's so smart like how privileged do you have to be to say i'm not going back to school until everyone on earth changes the weather for me i hate everything so much i hate her too i don't think she's not mentally ill though you're in crush she had selective mutism which means she didn't talk to anyone developmentally disabled okay i'll take that correction no, because I think mental illness refers to specific ailments and developmental disabilities. I'll accept that correction.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I always take that very seriously, too, because people will see a video of a socialist and they'll be like, they're mentally ill. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Being wrong isn't a mental illness.
Starting point is 01:40:16 People who are developmentally disabled or who are indoctrinated are not mentally ill. Their brains work just full of wrong information. Right. And all,
Starting point is 01:40:24 what people don't, I have mental illness. What people don't understand is that under Tim's beanie, there's no top of the skull. It's just like the pulsating brain. It's a void. It's a void. So he's very sensitive to this issue.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Well, I think she's on the autism. Very highly. Yeah, yes. That's acknowledged. Right, right, right, right. That's fine. I think that most of my friends are. There is something particularly interesting about the, I tweeted something about this.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I said Greta Thunberg with her, you know, let me pull up the tweet because I think I'm going to find that. Her parents are mentally ill though. No, they're evil. That's not the same. Oh, yeah, you're right. I keep forgetting that one. They're definitely evil.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Oh, okay. I think they're very smart. It's like Hollywood. When you pimp out your kid, it's the same. Oh, yeah, you're right. I keep forgetting that one. They're definitely evil. Oh, okay. I think they're very smart. It's like Hollywood, when you pimp out your kid. It's the same exact thing. Yeah. You've seen plenty of that in your lifetime, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:41:11 I said something like, with her zero years of... Oh, here we go. Here we go. I'm just going to read it. I said, Greta is one of the most widely cited climate scientists.
Starting point is 01:41:21 With over zero years in the field and a staggering zero degrees in diplomas beyond grade school. Greta has taken the world by storm with their cursory knowledge, skimmed from Google and rhetoric overheard from activists yelling in the street. So the chat, and then,
Starting point is 01:41:34 and then this was in April on four 20, the amazing atheist has cool bro. What's your degree again? You're a political commentator. I'm like quite literally. Yes. I don't go to climate meetings and tell people how to change the weather. I just retweeted the Fetterman clip. It's two seconds my twitter if you want i feel bad time i know five days ago he's
Starting point is 01:41:49 on time magazine so and it's a out of the darkness the untold story of severe uh senator john fetterman's battle with depression so you put a guy with severe depression and mental incapacity in and then you make an article about how much he's suffering now that he's in like why did you even do that in the beginning people that's what i want to know i am not going to have you sit here and bash sadism i know there's a lot of joy in seeing other people suffer i assure you and all kinds of joy if you know what i mean let's let's read this one uh jacob firman says commenting on last night listen to recent jordan peterson on bill maher and jbp said something like beauty and the Beast is the archetypal pornographic fantasy for women. When will you get either of them on the show?
Starting point is 01:42:28 Rider Strike has Marfreeno. Jordan Peterson said that? You're not going to be able to get Beast on the show. He's very hard to get. Beast? He's secluded. Which one? X-Men or Disney? Or Disney, yeah. Or Mister. But wait, did Jordan Peterson really say that? But it makes a lot of sense, meaning because the
Starting point is 01:42:44 girl dates a guy who's like an animal, then she civilizes him so it is like 50 shades of gray yeah oh is that what i'm sure that's what he means it's not uh too hard to wrap your head around civilizes him she does though like he goes from a beast to like this proper gentleman that's why i wanted to talk about a story we didn't get to because someone super chatted it that someone made a mod for skyrim where you can actually speak to a companion use and that's been programmed with chat gpt to respond to you in in words in english in real time some like a like a siri equivalent so uh it's well beyond that but i mean like it's like it's like her like that whatever right yeah you're playing skyrim and you have a companion and you
Starting point is 01:43:22 say where do you think we should go and then your your companion says, I don't know, maybe we should go to Castle Run or whatever. Your house. No, I mean, so I was talking about this earlier, the AI apocalypse is here. We are a few years away from seamless AI realities where you can talk to people and they can store memories. You were mentioning calling them on the phone. Yeah, when you log out of the game, you can just give them a call any time of day and bond with that NPC. I'm going to say something else. I don't think this is very controversial.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Chat GPT, it's going to be ironic what I'm about to say. Chat GPT is more articulate than the average person. Of course. But I mean, that's a big deal. But then you can really stay in your psychotic cage. It's great. i love it i never leave the house how many how many people do you think will choose to live in the fake world they choose it now yeah how many so like 90 watching this show we're kind of in a fake world
Starting point is 01:44:14 i mean it's real but here do you blame them no but check this out here's uh michael would you choose to live in fake reality no why not because my life is pretty awesome yeah that's right now what about some short fat incel who can't get a job hey don't bring me into this well that's oh wait i have a joke let me see i want to i would choose to live i've got a joke hey did you guys hear that rosanne bar is launching an airline all the flights are already canceled ah not funny you know you bring out you bring up talking about about people that are happy in their lives is kind of the point you're getting people but if you have that option of going into the matrix or whatever like what about the people that never get the chance to make their lives into something that they would choose over the Matrix.
Starting point is 01:45:07 What's going to happen is conservatives, for several reasons, are overwhelmingly likely not going to choose the fake reality. One, they're more liklative families and not want to abandon them. They're more likely to be good looking and make more money. For Michael, who says his life is pretty awesome, he wouldn't abandon that. But for the average person they would say i'm happier and i'm special in my own world you know how yeah but then if you get to old people like 70 and above such as myself hell yeah i'd choose to live in an artificial
Starting point is 01:45:36 world with everyone going you are right you're right in one sentence you're right during during covid people who are low status had the opportunity to increase their status by berating and dominating other people who weren't following the rules so we see very clearly they would love to be in this fake reality where they matter more than they matter in real life and so what happens then in the real world policy will be set by those who are not in fake worlds so conservatives and libertarians people who are successful and more attractive, will be in base reality, living their lives like normal, controlling government, and people who are weaker or less skilled are going to retreat to fake realities. Well, that's good then. And at the very top is going to be the anarchists.
Starting point is 01:46:16 So I hope you guys are nice to me because I got those. I can't finish that sentence. Would you? So Glitch said, the reason I brought this up, shout out Glitch for the super chat. The simulation is broken. It is creating a new simulation inside of itself. You will? So Glitch said, the reason I brought this up, shout out Glitch for the super chat. The simulation is broken. It is creating a new simulation inside of itself. You will be in the pod, inside the pod. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:31 I mean, I would go into a pod to go into the matrix, but I would come back out. I get concerned when people forget they're in a matrix when they're in there. So you need like some sort of failsafe. But so many people don't have self-awareness or introspection. That's not a common
Starting point is 01:46:45 thing. It's surprisingly rare. What they see is real? Right. Cesar Millan always says dogs don't think they react. That is the common experience for most people. Is that proved in psychology? Is that a known thing? Are you just sensing that?
Starting point is 01:47:00 I'm quoting Cesar Millan, the dog whisperer. That's one of his quotes. That people react? No, dogs don't think they react and i'm saying people are the same jonathan height has a yes concept uh the elephant and the rider so the elephant is your emotional reaction and the rider is like your rational brain yeah you can kind of dig like kind of suggest to an elephant where to go but if the elephant doesn't want to go where the rider directs, the elephant's not going there. And so the rider's really more just like PR. Your elephant, which is your limbic system
Starting point is 01:47:33 and your emotional reaction and stuff, your elephant just goes and does what it wants to do. And then your consciousness essentially rationalizes it and just basically tells the PR as to why you did it even though it's actually more of a a reaction than anything you ever thought i did um i was doing tricep curls and i was like dude i said we're not doing tricep that's not tricep curls that's bicep curls uh it was i was doing maybe it was a pole i was doing i was pulling i was pulling on the rope and like this like pulling down like this and after the fourth one i was like
Starting point is 01:48:03 ah i was wheeling my body but nothing was moving it, like pulling down like this. And after the fourth one, I was like, ah, I was wheeling my body, but nothing was moving. It didn't even hurt. Like that's the rider telling the elephant to turn right. But he was like, it's lactic acid buildup. You can't even, your muscles aren't responding anymore. You should lower the weight. Don't do vanity lifts. He just stopped me at four after that.
Starting point is 01:48:16 He's like, you hit your max. That's the key. Go up until you can't do it anymore. I want to read this one. Demoralize, exemplifying everything that I and others have said about DeSantis supporters says, so DeSantis finally did what you've been demanding of him firing bad staffers that hurt your feelings are you finally going to praise him now like you promised you would boy that's that's going to get desantis some support this is exactly my point thank you for
Starting point is 01:48:38 for proving my point and exemplifying the exact issue when the zonerad is hurt feelings are you an idiot no no it's it's it's not that i don't care what he's saying hurt feelings saying hurt feelings is an is an attempted emotional slight yes it's meant to rile me up why would i support desantis after that so my first assumption is this guy must hate desantis and desperately want to get influential personalities and shows to turn on DeSantis. But DeSantis didn't say anything bad to me. You did. So then I have to wonder, like, is this intentional sabotage?
Starting point is 01:49:10 Unfortunately, there were members of DeSantis' own staff who were insulting me as well. So I think it's just DeSantis supporters are incapable of formulating responses that will actually help the man win. And DeSantis is incapable of leading his staff and his followers in helping him win I'm gonna say one more thing uh I I am I know a lot of people on the DeSantis team as do you and I invited one who I met with in person on my show several times I only do deferential interviews I don't even push back and they just left me on red and they refuse they refuse like this is an hour for you to have a commercial for your candidate i would not even be antagonistic in the slightest what do you mean on red they just didn't say anything the same thing my so i don't
Starting point is 01:49:52 know i don't do booking we have uh for culture awards lisa reynolds and for for the show cassandra handles booking but uh my understanding i book people sometimes without asking you do my understanding is that the tennis people will not come on this show. And we've been like, can we get someone who supports tennis to come on and have this conversation? And they're just, they're terrified. They're buried in it already. But it's weird to be terrified because you are not going to be like, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're going to have a very civil.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Give them an opportunity to change your mind. And they can't. I don't understand that. So the issue is this. Hey, Ron DeSantis lacks charisma. There's no answer. How do you respond to that other than we're working on it? But it makes him sound bad.
Starting point is 01:50:31 So you say something like, Jazz Jennings received trans surgery while Ron DeSantis was governor. There's been no addressing it directly. The answer is actually really simple. Ron DeSantis did what he could and he passed laws. That's fair. Instead, they just started tweeting at me that i was stupid i was a moron i was wrong they lied well both could be
Starting point is 01:50:48 true sure but this is the point instead of being like hey man look we're really working on it they started just dogpiling on me that makes no sense to me they wanted to lose they want him to lose like this was his these were like his pr people that's true i'm just saying this doesn't make sense to me because like i know enough about pr that'd be very easy to say what you just said right or send you a one pager goes this is what ronda santas did to combat this issue in florida and this is what trump hasn't done and just put it forward instead they said what an idiot tim pool's a moron he doesn't understand how laws work they said ronda santas doesn't have a time machine and he can't fly to new york and change the laws and i'm just like huh i was like why are you all tweeting at me
Starting point is 01:51:29 instead of just saying like here's a link to a story and being like or link to a press release yeah it's so it's it's just they have no idea how to handle any of this they're in the other thing too is like you mentioned the polarization where it's like if you oppose DeSantis, you're a Trump supporter. Quite literally, a prominent personality tweeted, I just can't get behind DeSantis after this. He has he like he doesn't know how to handle his campaign, his PR. And so they immediately said, why won't you address Laura Loomer and Alex Brusewitz? And it's just like, I'm talking about DeSantis. That's an entirely different campaign and different people if all you can do in response to bad pr is point to someone else i'll say okay great you're both
Starting point is 01:52:10 bad next question yeah but thanks thanks for for the comment i i gotta say i do believe some of these people are actually just trying to sink desantis like yeah posts like this do nothing but get us saying negative things about his campaign so well think of how many people that were working for trump did that yeah that's a good point that's a great point rosanna that's how they are like i think that so many of people on the right are just democrats in disguise yeah all right ptb says we're gonna we're gonna have to start a rosanne was right jar yeah all right it's four months four months i match it, then we'll give it to charity or somebody who needs it
Starting point is 01:52:48 or something. If the end of the year, so we have to December 31st? Yes. To be fair, or to January, if by, you know, January 1st at midnight.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Okay. There are no tribunals. And then the election next year. And so after that, we should have a follow-up or something. Yeah. And then, you know, what are you going to do with the money?
Starting point is 01:53:06 It would be a great excuse for you to come back to Austin. Oh, yeah. We're dating in January. Yeah. We'll both be back on. We'll have a big old party. Why don't we do an event at like a venue and we'll call it the... Roseanne was wrong.
Starting point is 01:53:19 There were no military tribunals. Okay, that's fine. No, no. We'll call it Roseanne on trial. And we can even do a little roast you can roast me we can give money to some good yeah yeah i say i say we do it because in the event the tribunals do happen it's going to be good to have the event ready to talk about you know what let's raise money for what's it called rain which is for kids who had uh had to
Starting point is 01:53:43 deal with uh child abuse so that is something i think is a really big issue that isn't talked about enough and it's too politicized i love her i don't know who's in charge i could be getting the name wrong but let's talk it might it might have to be like second or third week of january point being like let's use it to raise money for like a cause that's everyone agrees with is a problem yeah sounds good have you seen sound of freedom no i've not yet oh man you will do you think Rogan's venue is probably totally booked and he only does comedy
Starting point is 01:54:07 he'll let us do it you think so yeah but there's lots of places in Austin and there's another one down the street that'll let us do it too
Starting point is 01:54:13 we could combine them comedy mothership would be the coolest thing ever but we're not really it would be a comedy element it should be a trade it's not
Starting point is 01:54:23 it's not comedy like the law that it has to be comedy shows at his club. No, I know. We can do whatever. Yeah. Well, we can have comics. They may be booked out, though.
Starting point is 01:54:32 It's like Funny Story four months away. It's probably booked out. Get you, Dave Smith, and Luis Gomez. No, they want comics. You have not failed podcasting. But maybe we actually do. We bring some some comics that'll be terrific we could have a political comedy kind of thing a roast have you been roasted before yes comedy central it's hilarious go watch it is it fun or
Starting point is 01:54:55 does it suck it's so fun you can't wait to hear what they're gonna say the thing that I found with people who are at like we're famous they everyone's scared to make fun of them but she's a comedian right so if you're cracking jokes at her she's peeing her pants but everyone's scared to do it so there were some good no no i'm talking about general your pants is not you're not pretend you're what people i learned about being friends with you is you're surprised i'm much more pretentious than you are in you but you're in a position to be so if people make jokes with you you laugh or you say that's not funny but you're not offended no i love a good joke no matter who it's at so let's we'll try and figure it out yeah we'll start that'd be fun yeah but you guys are all gonna you know be owing the money i'm telling
Starting point is 01:55:34 you uh-huh it'll it'll it'll be okay boomer it's gonna be very funny when michael writes a check and hands it to you yeah yeah it will be funny Because at least she knows what a check is. I want Roseanne to be right, but I don't think that, I think that you're going to be paying up. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Are you in? Clarification. Did you put money in? Michael, what if the military tribunal is for Trump officials? Then she wins.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Okay. Any military tribunal at all? I mean, it's got to be like large scale. It's not like one guy's in a military tribunal. That happens every day anyway. It's got to be, you know, it's got to be public on TV. Yeah, public and on TV.
Starting point is 01:56:13 And it's got to be like... Let's trust him to be the judge to see who wins if it's a gray area. Okay? I mean, I'll poll the audience and ask them. Sure, that's fair too. You're on the fence. Tribunals, period. Is there, say, three or more judges that would try judges? I'm sorry, we'll do an X poll. Military tribunal. So it has to be three judges at least.
Starting point is 01:56:31 They're military. It's a military tribunal, which is different from a Department of Justice trial. But it has to be three judges, I think, for the tri. Oh, for the tri tribunal. I think so. I don't know. At least three judges. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:44 I think it's a judge. It's three officers of, I believe, general rank. I found the spook. At least it's us. I want to read this. Rusty Razor says,
Starting point is 01:56:56 And there's three zeros in a thousand dollars that you're going to be giving me. Exactly. He didn't put no money in. No, you. Rusty Razor superchatted us saying, around 1996, researchers from the University of Alabama at Huntsville
Starting point is 01:57:08 created a Bose-Einstein condensate that canceled gravity above it. The story is in Pop Mechanics or PopSci. The researchers disappeared. They disavowed their work years later. So they reappeared? Where did they reappear? They disappeared and came back? They went down there to Antarctica.
Starting point is 01:57:24 They apparated to Hogwarts! the Bose-Einstein condensates an interesting phenomenon that I have very little information about well you better get busy that's the god particle, right? do I have that right? no, you're thinking of the Higgs-Boson that all sounds the same to me
Starting point is 01:57:40 Bose was a scientist that apparently Einstein ripped off a lot people credit Einstein with a lot of his discoveries but Bose was the actual mathematician no, Emily Nether was a scientist that apparently Einstein ripped off a lot. People credit with Einstein with a lot of his discoveries, but Bose was the actual mathematician. No, Emily Nether was a mathematician. That's a girl's name. Emily Nether. N-O-E-T-H-E-R.
Starting point is 01:57:54 She was his real mathematician. No more Super Chats? We got a bunch. Okay. I'm reading through them while you guys are talking. Emily Nother. We'll grab another one. Toy News Daily says says most likely in
Starting point is 01:58:05 three years every phone will come with an ai assistant siri 2.0 it'll do everything personal assistant for anything you want to do they kind of have some versions that already somewhat well every what everything you want to do we're we're very close to the point where you'll literally just call your phone by name and the name is effectively a passcode for activation so it'll be like enter a name an activation code and you'll say like you know make reservations at system 101 yeah seven o'clock reservations uh i might be late set it up for me no one at the restaurant will talk to anybody it'll be done yeah the network will do it you'll show up and they'll say welcome this is how it's going to be and yet so yet in 2023 we got to take calls from the audience when when uh i was flying back from vegas on united they changed my flight without telling me
Starting point is 01:58:50 oh from it was a vegas to houston to dc and then at two in the morning with while i was asleep it changed to vegas to denver to dc and from first class to coach oh my gosh without a refund or anything so you know that's oh that's gotta be fraud or something. And let me thank Roseanne because, because you've came here, they flew me first class. So I feel like a big shot today. But, uh, there were, there were no humans involved. There were, the customer service was a robot. Robot couldn't answer anything.
Starting point is 01:59:19 This is the future. I ordered me from McDonald's for the first time. I'd rather work with the robot than with the human. You've seen who's out there. McDonald's, there's no humans. I just ordered on a machine and then they got my order. The guy that gave it to me gave it to me wrong. There never were.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Hold on. Wait, we got to read this one. Well, sometimes they try to make it right. Your way, kind of. No name 99. Noface88 says, Roseanne, you are awesome. Tim, you did good getting her to come on. He did?
Starting point is 01:59:44 I did. Oh, my awesome. Tim, you did good getting her to come on. I did. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I didn't even know she was coming. I was just sitting. Michael's like, I got a surprise. He's all giddy and laughing. That is a good Michael impression.
Starting point is 01:59:58 That's fair. He was so excited. And then Roseanne walks in. She's like, hi. And I'm like, oh, it's Roseanne. And then he's like, oh. I had a whole speech. She was going to walk in. She's like, hi. And I'm like, oh, it's Roseanne. And then he's like, oh. I had a whole speech. She was going to walk in.
Starting point is 02:00:07 We had to get the picture for the thumbnail. We didn't. You could have. Yeah. Well, we have. Oh, it was fun. It was. It was fun to come.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. Yeah. We still have the members only show. It's in a few minutes. Can I go to the bathroom and smoke before we do that? Yes. You can.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Go for it. Okay, since I don't know what. You're Roseanne. No one tells you anything i don't know what y'all are talking about with games and this shit for young people so i'll recuse myself for a cigarette well so it with that being said everybody smash the like button if you haven't already subscribe to the channel go to timcast.com become a member we're going to jump to the members only segment in just a few minutes you can follow the show at timcast irl you can follow me at timcast michael do you want to shout out michael
Starting point is 02:00:48 malice on twitter and uh the white pill book i hope you all read it and enjoy it it's why i'm hopeful for the future of this country do you want to do you want roseanne do you want to shout out your show before you oh yeah the roseanne bar show wherever podcasts are available i'm on the and roseannebar.com follow her on. I got her her real Twitter account back. Oh, right on. At the real Roseanne. My kids took it away from me, and he helped me get it back. That's right.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Chaos Demon. Nice work, dude. Yeah, I was very proud of myself. Demons are not always evil. Yeah. That's correct. I got it good. I am Phil Labonte.
Starting point is 02:01:18 The band is All That Remains. We are available on Apple Music, Spotify that whole deal you go to the bathroom right there hi everyone I'm Ian Crossland follow me at iancrossland.net we're gonna make some magic tonight good to see you Rosanna I'll see you in a little bit yeah dude I'm all about the gemstones this is a ruby
Starting point is 02:01:38 is that really ruby? this is legit ruby from the earth they make rubies in the lab we got you a gem in tijuana and luke charged it in the ocean oh good thank you we need to get it yeah thank you sir all right guys we'll uh see you on the after show kellen uh yeah i am kellen you guys can follow me everywhere at kellen pdl i was going to tell rosanne that the chat absolutely loved her tonight i was laughing the whole time just reading people's comments and everything but uh yeah
Starting point is 02:02:04 awesome show. Alright, we'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a few minutes. Thanks for hanging out.

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