Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #826 Intel Officer Swears ALIENS EXIST And US Has Alien Tech w/Lila Rose

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Lila Rose to discuss a former US intelligence agent confirming aliens are real, Mitch McConnell abruptly freezing at a press conference, & Hunter Biden Lawyers backing out of plea agreement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So there was a UFO hearing today, and I got to tell you, it was one of the most boring things I ever had to listen to. And I had it playing in the background, and eventually I just turned it off. But there were some things that I found interesting. The first thing I'll say is, I don't believe any of it. I don't trust these individuals that are testifying. I think they're misleading people, and factual but not truthful in how they describe things. Let me just say, Hunter Biden was facing a plea agreement. It fell apart.

The judge threw it out. There seems to be some very serious backroom dealing going on that they could not say on paper or in court. And the judge kind of figured it out and everything's falling apart. And then surprise, surprise, a UFO hearing happens where some guy says that non-human biologics have been recovered from off-Earth technology. I'm not going to bury the lead.

A weather balloon with a cat in it is off-Earth technology piloted by a non-human entity. Okay, so unless they explicitly say it, but anyway, I digress. Based on the context of the conversation conversation when asked about non-human pilots and he said yes yep and then said off earth technology he there's no way he doesn't know he is confirming the existence of aliens okay and he may be trying to manipulate the public i don't know but we will talk about it i think it's silly but trust us the conversation will will be dabbling in the political because we'll be talking about how they want to distract us from what's really going on and that's the

hunter biden story we also have big news mitch mcconnell appeared to have either a stroke or seizure on live television at a press conference he froze and nobody could make heads or tails of it i think it may have been what's called like an absent or absent seizure. Some people say it may be a TIA. I forgot what that stands for. A mini stroke, they call it. But we'll talk about that one for sure. And there's a couple other stories.

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Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Lila Rose. Hi, Tim. Who are you? I am Lila Rose. I'm the founder of Live Action, and I don't know if aliens exist or not. That is an interesting topic, so I don't have a ton of opinions, except it would be fun to meet an alien. Yeah, maybe, unless they, like, are trying to experiment on people or something, you know. That would be a problem. We don't, we're not particularly nice to non-human entities when like in reference to cows and

stuff like that. We're not nice to human entities. And that's, so Live Action's focus is protecting humans. And what never makes the headline is that 2,500 humans, children in the womb are killed every single day legally in the United States. Good point. Humans aren't good to other humans. What would aliens do?

So, well, thanks for joining us. It should be fun. Thanks for having me. Yeah, we got Phil Labonte. Hello, everyone. I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of the band All That Remains, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary. I think that aliens are going to mimic us. So if we get our stuff together, maybe we'll have a better chance.

There's a theory that we're in a black hole. So everything that's our stuff together, maybe we'll have a better chance. There's a theory that we're in a black hole. So everything that's going in is actually coming into our universe from without. I don't know if it's real or not, Phil. I'm Ian Crossland. And I, Tim, you mentioned earlier

that what's his name, may have suffered a TIA, transient ischemic attack, commonly known as a mini stroke. But anyway, we'll get into it on the show. Good to see you. Serge is back. Yes, i have survived

my trip to utah finally have a license it's great uh i'm sir.com let's do it here we go we have this tweet from drama alert former u.s intelligence agent david grush confirms under oath that aliens exist okay technically he did in the context of the question asked and how he answered. He did. But I'm willing to bet he's that a game is being played to distract us from the Hunter Biden news about tax avoidance, tax evasion and other illicit business deals. Failure to register as a foreign agent. All of a sudden we get this story, which seems to be nonsense but in the rare uh look it's going to be really funny in 50 years when they're like humans made uh contact with aliens you know in the 30s or whatever and it was revealed to the public in 2023 but no one cared so okay we'll we'll talk about this because it may be big news but let me play this video for you we have uh rep nancy mace talking uh asking this question and it is a it is a good question where's our audience our audio good let me get the audio up and then here we go if you believe we

have crashed craft stated earlier do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft as I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview biologics came with some of these recoveries yeah were they I guess human or non-human biologics non-human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program i talked to that are currently still on the program if you believe okay i'm just i'll say it again i said in the intro to the show piloted first of all she said pilots and it seems like he kind of weaseled past it yes we she says did you find pilots?

He goes, we've recovered biologics. Yeah. Does that mean we recovered the pilots? Or does it mean like there was a leaf in the vessel? He did not say, look, I'm sorry, man. If you're trying to confirm the existence of aliens, you need to look Nancy Mace in the eyes and say, ma'am, the vehicles or craft, whatever they may be, appear to have originated not on this earth. Technology we don't understand.

And whatever creature or entity was inside of it is unrecognizable to us. Then I'd be like, whoa. Even then I'd be like, what was it, burned? Okay. Non-human entity. Someone posted a picture of an ant riding a leaf. So remember Barack Obama when he said he didn't know when life began that that was above his pay grade we don't even know when human we don't even

know when human beings are yeah so what would be a non-human biologic it beats us right so you're saying they may have found a fetus in the spaceship and they're like well it's not a human that is a theory tim that is a theory i'm so jaded on all of the the recent alien stuff i'm just not it's not fun anymore the guy like i don't think i don't buy anything the government says anyways why am i gonna believe this we've had intense advancements in microelectronics and in metamaterials that are lighter than a lot of them are lighter than air. Some of them are, we also have talking plasma, like laser technology that can triangulate into points in the atmosphere and create a plasma ball. You can move around rapidly on a radar, make it look like it's some crazy craft. It's just, it's too much obvious

advancements to start pretending now a hundred years later that we're finally in touch with aliens. They tried to pull this over on people in the 40s 1940s with roswell they said it was a hot air balloon they said it was a balloon then all of a sudden they're like oh no it wasn't a balloon it was a i think it was an alien craft everybody was the what was the dog's name laika the russian dog went to space a non-human pilot of us of an off-earth vehicle pilot is a that's very generous dog was a pilot very very dog hit buttons it could also be they store data in dna um so it could have been like a computer an onboard computer piloting it that had its data stored in dna which is a biologic it's an organic uh carbon based look off earth technology could

literally mean a balloon it's what's off the earth you know what i mean yeah something it's manipulative manipulative language and the dude didn't bring any real evidence and he danced around the issues but i will add he did he not just him but in the hearing they did imply that people have been murdered to cover up ufo information in the government and that he implied aliens are trying to harm human beings. I don't buy it. So I'm not even sold on the possibility of an alien craft getting from another star system to our solar system. I'm not even sold on that. Meaning you're saying they're real. They just can't travel this far.

Yeah, I'm not so that you can travel those distances but that being said even if that's the case right say we'll give that like if they have the technology to do that to to make that journey there is no way human beings could do anything at all to stop them if they desired whatever they want to do we we could not do anything at all to stop them if they desired whatever they want to do we we could not do anything at all they would be so advanced so far beyond our ability no that's not necessarily true it's it's assumptive you know there could be um an alien species that focused all the technology technological development into einstein rosen bridges and their communications can be lacking you know their manufacturing could be more lacking but you know it may be surprising to another species that we've so heavily developed communication

technologies the uh the assumption that aliens will be like people like uh bipeds with hands to the second law of thermodynamics says that you can't like that you have to like nothing is created or destroyed like it's you the or the law of entropy i mean you like you're not like all of of all the evidence is that that things break down you don't the only thing that that uh uh has been able to uh expand upon itself and replicate itself is here on earth we haven't seen that anywhere else well uh there's there's negative entropy in in you know like matter comes together and fusion occurs in stars but over time it has to create more entropy than than extra the theory that's confusing is people say you can't get more energy out of a system than you put into it but people are assuming that systems are closed there are no closed systems in reality everything energy can

always come into you into your area from further away but i'm just trying to so you can create systems like fusion where it pulls it in from outside i'm just trying not to deviate because that that's way too far off where we were what i'm saying is in the event any kind of alien life came to earth for some reason it is an assumption that they would be more advanced than us beyond our recognition but they could have sent like drone craft with like a bio-organic machine as the pilot yeah and with it's not targeted so as soon as it enters the solar system just crashes like they could have it could do be done i don't think i think they're just trying to fund space force russia launched that dog in a space it never

came back did it no poor dog and there's there's also there's also um there's also a theory that um yuri gary agarian is that his name was not the first guy in space he's just the first guy to come back and the first guy in space just he's gone you know whoopsie so look maybe a satellite crashed and they called it off-earth technology with non-human entities i got here i googled it my friends what is a non-human entity as defined by the library of congress fictitious characters mythological figures deities legendary characters and animals with proper names quite literally there could have been like a marvel comic book if he's trying to manipulate to distract from the hunter biden stuff because these guys are intel officers sorry i'm i'm more

inclined to believe that they're if you if you kept me and says what's more likely they're trying to make sure nobody pays attention to hunter biden they've been covering for the biden family for decades i'd be like well that's a fact or aliens exist i'd be like well the first one's a fact no matter what so if you come to me and tell me this guy's lying about aliens to distract us that just plays into what we already know and it's probably true also what about angels and demons that's also where is that in that definition so it would be funny if the the craft they discovered was like a flaming chariot with an angel on it or something no i think there's a lot of evidence if you want to look at things that are just not out of out of

the ordinary look into exorcisms and the existence of demons and evil yeah what do you think an exorcism is anyway it is ultimately call it casting out a demon like is someone having a seat like a force of seizure in the name of jesus christ and they're like they're letting go of an old behavior pattern and they're having like a seizure while it's happening or something it yeah there's a physiological reaction absolutely that is you can see happening. I've never seen one happen. I've never seen one happen, but I know people that have. And I've talked to priests that have done exorcisms.

And I've talked to people who've been oppressed by demons. So you don't really see that talked about a lot at the U.S. Congress. But that's affecting a lot more people than aliens right now. That and abortion. So there's a lot more to talk about. If you talk to these hippie leftists they'll say interdimensional beings you know you like you do dmt and then you see weird beings and entities that offer you things and stuff and i'm like i just like crystals like demons you know it sounds like you're you're talking about what people have talked about for a long time just in a different way yeah i mean you can invent sort of a system

of what these things are to you that fits your ideology or your worldview but at the end of the day i believe there's god he created human beings we have rights there's also angels and demons demons are fallen angels god's a person angels are persons and humans are persons and then there's animals so the the non-human entities and aliens might be angels and demons? Possibly. I have thought about that, especially those reports from the military seeing the,

you know, the UFO going really quickly and it seemed faster than any spacecraft could go. Like, that could have been maybe an angel.

You don't know. Or like, do angels have vehicles? They could if they wanted to. That's our bodies. Seamus, wasn't Seamusamas saying angels are not we are our bodies like physical entities they're not just our vehicles uh if i don't know what

shamas was saying but if i understand correctly like angels are not this like human beings and angels are very like correct but angels are not physical beings it would not be a biological spirit their only spirit yeah so they wouldn't recover but they can appear as biologics in order you know to make an impact that's what happened like what does it even mean the angel appeared so it looked like a biologic but that's not a word we use biologic i know we're using that because of that no but i know it's like so why is he saying that you know it's like a car accident and we on we discovered two biologics like what does that mean are you telling me that there's two victims i feel like it's like they would normally use the term like remains like that's like call it biologic

like calling it biologic is weird but like in other contexts they would say the remains of what we assume would be a pilot yeah and it's i don't understand i mean i'm not that i am trying to look into their brains but like that's that's the standard way they describe stuff, so I don't know. I mean, biologic, is it like the alien just a paste? Is it like a goo? A bacterial paste that they worked on on a space station, and then they maybe built.

No, the alien is a space. An off-Earth vehicle. It was a satellite that crashed with mold. Could have been have been a snail named joe like that's it's the russian dog right he's came back we found it as long as there's so much crap going on with the white house i'm not buying plus they lie like kareem jean-pierre will lie straight away so why why do we think this guy won't james clapper lied under oath to congress why would we assume this guy won't what let me ask you what what are the what is the agenda of these intelligence agencies has it been to expose secret information to the public or has it been to protect the bidens and other corrupt politicians to protect the government my argument is there's a lot of incompetency in government and so it can look like random stuff that doesn't

make sense can look like some conspiracy that doesn't really make sense but we're think it's targeting someone but a lot of the times it's incompetency that would be my argument for a lot of government bureaucracy there's also the possibility that these guys along with someone like bob lazar i think his name was right yeah government has a secret base they're doing typical experiments, propulsion, normal stuff. I mean, new technologies. They want to scare our enemies. China, for instance. If China knows exactly what weapons we have, well, then they're going to plan for when, you know, they go invade Taiwan and how they're going to fight us.

If now they're asking themselves, did they actually recover alien technology? If we go to war war are we going to go up against something we don't understand it could be that these guys are useful idiots who are brought into a room and shown you know effectively magic tricks and they say this is top secret you can't tell anybody but look at this and then they see a levitation we have a UFO levitation table right now and then he's like I gotta tell everybody And then he goes and he says what he can say. But he's really just being duped as part of a psyop to make our enemies think that we've got a higher level of tech than they do. But do you think there's a lot less psyops and there's just a lot more, again, incompetency, mistakes, human error, confusion, chaos?

But how do you accidentally swear under oath that aliens exist? Well, I don't think he did. He actually say that he just kind of in the context of the conversation you can make two conclusions he's lying to us or he's saying aliens exist the way maybe yeah the way he phrased it i lean towards lying to us but it's either that or he's literally he's he's there there's no honest way he's claiming a dog was found in a satellite or you know or mold was found in a module that was in space he was asked about non-human pilots and says yes we've recovered them how do you accidentally lie about that i don't think

i don't know no no you you either intentionally lie oh yeah either maybe he thought he was telling the truth like bob lazar i think he really thought he was telling the truth because they brought him into a room with nine drones. And they put a puppet of a green alien and one of them in the seat. And he remembers seeing that. And then they probably had some wild metamaterial that was vibrating so fast you couldn't physically touch it because it was creating force. And he was like, oh, because he remembers that part of it, I believe. That's something about it.

He's like got his hand on a window. Yeah. And then they get him to go tell everyone that it was. And then they tell him it was from zeta reticuli they feed him some nonsense so that if he ever does go public he'll feed the public some nonsense yeah he'll look like and so this guy could be similar or he could have been just lying think about how they compartmentalize the manhattan project nobody knew what they were working on right so you bring these guys in and you're you're building some kind of technology and let's say it's not even anti-grav or force field or alien tech or whatever.

Let's just say it's a metamaterial that's lightweight and very, very dense, like, you know, very useful, heat resistant. Like a Cermat or something. That's a type of metamaterial. You don't want this guy whose job is to file paperwork to know how you make it in the event he leaks things so what do you say aliens here's a question what would aliens think of us if they showed up on earth i don't know what do we think of cows chickens well i don't know if that's even the question because i you know bringing it back to children and how we treat children there's estimates that we kill about 50 million pre-born children globally tens of millions of pre-born children you have to understand we're young when

you talk what they think about that yeah but when you see that killer young when you talk about that you have to you have to acknowledge that the people that are actually having abortions they don't conceptualize it as killing they just don't like i know i know that that you do a lot of people that are listening to um people that are pro people that are pro-choice don't consider it killing that's why they can do that's people who get abortions and people who are pro-choice are two different things fair enough okay people that are pro-choice do not consider it generally and this is a generalization but people that are pro-choice don't consider it killing at all they consider it a medical procedure and that's why they want to make control the argument the way they do i think that's pro-abortion people i think the traditional

pro-choice like i said that overwhelmingly does many of them do think it is killing fine but the point that i'm making is the people that find pro-abortion uh because most people aren't pro like pro-abortion fine fair enough but no no most most of the left is pro-abortion but most people aren't i think there's a variety there's a lot of different reasons and there's a lot of different beliefs around it about whether or not i'm actually killing someone is it a someone am i just going to put my head in the sand but the back to the aliens question the fact is we are killing as a society globally i don't i don't know how tens of millions of people and look uh we got too many chickens in chicken city so we got to stop having more of them uh they sometimes make more of themselves mostly we incubate so now we're probably going to give some away

or something like that or just move them to new locations but we have too many so so they see us as the lower life form is what you're saying no not necessarily i mean they would just be like i don't i think it would be a neutral question they'd say it is it is they're culling they're self-culling you know what i mean the same as they cull any other species they cull themselves and humans are i think a lot about the brutal the barbarism of humans like the this in order to survive we have to kill we have to destroy another animal or another plant and steal its energy yeah we have to consume destroy and consume the thing actually kill things to consume them and like how horrific for an alien vampires if an alien just subsisted off of light and that

was how they got their energy they would look at us like the most horrific evil creatures but if they also consumed and destroyed to live they probably look at us as equals and be very concerned that there would be a war so like i don't know if i if i came upon a species that just annihilated everything in its path to survive i think of it as a disease uh i i think not that humans do everything in their path that's hyperbole but the fact that we have to kill to survive and there's a big difference between killing a chicken you know to eat the egg to eat the chicken than killing a human being i mean right there's it is very likely that their technology i would say it's the likelihood is 100 that there exists technologies that we do not have access to

simply by the nature of the chemical composition of our planet it's possible that if aliens exist they came to exist on a planet that had more oxygen or less nitrogen or something like that, resulting in a different path towards technology. They come to this Earth and they're like, whoa, this is very, very weird. The aliens could be squid-like. They could be giant balls of gas.

They could, or, you know, like a thin membrane or something. And we exist the way we are based on the chemical composition of the planet salt water there there is a an interesting argument that alien life will be nearly identical to humans in that the uh evolution of the eye based on what we think we know independently occurred in a bunch of different species for the same reasons light sensitivity of cells and then there was a higher rate of success with a certain shape of certain cells and and you know eventually the eye forms i watch this really

amazing documentary on it it may be the case that if we do encounter aliens they will be very very very human-like they will breathe a similar atmosphere why the oxygen level of our atmosphere is perfect for fire which you can use to separate elements and at the basis level we make metals but eventually we got to the point where we're synthesizing cooking food and stuff yeah yeah cooking food more efficient production but look at dolphins this is the argument that i find compelling as well that that the forms might be like human yeah that the forms that that have inhabited earth are the likely forms that life tends to make considering the conditions in the universe no no but not tends

to make but would succeed in terms of technological advancement thumbs opposable thumbs very very smart they say big brains but they will never smelt because they're underwater and they can't. Some dolphins listening to this show right now. They're like, you son of a bitch. Like, I wish I had hands. I'd show him. But you can't. Sorry.

Can't do it. And whales either. Big brain, super smart. They can probably perceive things we can't. They definitely can with sounds and all that. But they're not going to start a fire. So that's all they'll ever be. But we are in this oxygen rich environment.

Oxygen actually destroys cells. Oxidization. And we've evolved to be able to exist here and we make fire and then we throw stuff in it and then that stuff melts and we separate things and then we we extract chemicals and hormones and now we have computers and rockets synthesizing synthesizing fuels and all that stuff my big concern is if aliens do exist and they show up and they don't just immediately kill us, I don't think that will happen. But if they did show up, we would not do a good job or we would really struggle, humanity at large right now, with how to treat them in an ethical way. Because I think our bioethics, generally speaking today, especially in the Western world, especially in America, are very broken. And you look at reproductive technologies as an example and cloning, right?

And the ability to clone and the question of, can you create a clone of yourself and then take their organs? How do you treat a cloned embryo? How do you treat embryos that are being used for research? There's all of these ethical questions

that we're not getting right. Do you think clones- We're practicing the wrong thing. We're killing human beings. Do you think clones have souls? Absolutely. If they're an individual human, absolutely. It's like a different soul from you.

Like if someone cloned you, it'd be like a different soul. Well, I mean, identical twins have different souls, but they're biologically identical. I just tweeted out a video of a nanomachine taking a sperm and impregnate it in an egg with it, and the sperm's just like laying there. And I'm like, we have so many lazy people already, we don't need to take the lazy sperm and make new lazy it's crazy um but how do you think lila like it how do we solve for this bioethical problem where we're

killing young people because it's like a resource struggle i feel like if people don't without the resources we can't support the young we've always had to leave the weak and suffering behind in the tribal life and things like that because you can't support it. And it does terrify me that they're impregnating eggs with weak sperm. But like, how do you? Well, it's funny with the resource thing. Just to touch that for a second. We have more resources than we've ever had in arguably human history.

And we have the technology to have more people and support more people as a planet than in human history. And all the predictions about, oh, the world can't handle more humans, the Malthusian ideology of we can't, we're gonna have to kill people off because we can't feed the world. That's not come true

because as human beings have grown and populated the earth, our technologies have, our mastery of the world has. But anyway, separate from that though, I think the big big question is what's the correct way we treat each other you know do humans have human rights and if we have human rights what are they and i think most people i don't know i don't know your guys's position but i think many people today would say yes we have human rights even the united nations says there's human rights and so the question isn't

whether or not we have human rights it's where where is the line? What is a human? What is not right? Exactly. But I think most people would agree that the right to not be killed is a fundamental human right, because if you don't have that, you can't have any other rights. Right. And that is the pro-life case in a nutshell. If you're a human, you have human rights. And the first human right is not to be killed.

Similarly, our Declaration of Independence, you're endowed by we're endowed by our creator so we're created they're not given to us by each other we get them from on high we are endowed with these inalienable rights and the first of them is life liberty the pursuit of happiness right so life comes first and all humans have that right whether you're born or pre-born it doesn't matter you're a human you have that right i don't believe there is a way that you can ever really win this battle and the reason is these aliens pro-abortion individuals are desperately trying to remove themselves from the gene pool but you are desperately trying to save them this conflict will result in more and more leftist ideologies pro-abortion ideologies emerging in our current system this means that they can vote

and they will vote for policies that allow them to terminate themselves from the gene pool. Ultimately, then they will reduce the pro-life element. Conservatives will just have more influence and more children, but then they will stop abortions. That once they have the authority, they'll say abortion's done, which means the remaining pro-abortion people will have more and more kids those kids will hold the ideology of pro-abortion until they get too too many then they'll vote for abortion and call themselves again interesting well i think i don't see how i i hear you i hear you i think that if we you know in like a game theory analysis like that if that happened just that way i can see your argument but there's a lot of other factors at play, which have to do like

with podcasts like yours, where people are getting new ideas, they're being exposed to different beliefs, maybe they were raised by hardcore pro abortion parents, and they always were told to be feminist and to be pro woman is to be in support of reproductive freedom, which means to kill your baby. And that's what they were indoctrinated with. Basically, I'd argue it's indoctrination. But then they might listen to a podcast on YouTube and all of a sudden their world is blown because they get a new perspective on things. So the beauty of today's crazy media world

and just the diversity that comes with that is that people are exposed to different ideas regardless of how they're raised. So the question is, will the truth win out? What is the truth and will the truth win out? Yeah, what is? Because you were saying the right to human life. i think that's a good starting point for life for humans but at what point is an egg a human i i wonder like i'm like well if it doesn't have a

brain it doesn't have a heartbeat no when it's fertilized is a sperm an egg is a sperm a human before it fertilizes the egg is it a human right when it's banging on the egg's outer wall like is it only once it's in and that first magical electrification appears then it's a human all of a sudden because it doesn't look like a human when a unique when a unique set of dna is created life begins it's called i agree that it's living i agree that it's living but i don't think it's a human so sperm egg fusion and you get a single cell embryo that has its unique set of dna nothing like it ever before, and that is going to grow. It's going to self-actualize, you can argue, grow itself,

meaning it needs nourishment, but it's going to start exponentially developing more and more cells, developing that heart. The heart's going to beat at just three and a half weeks. It's crazy how early the heart breaks. Six weeks, you have brain waves already. So human life, virtually all biologists agree it's fertilization even peter singer who is that you know pro infanticide ethicist from princeton

says it's at fertilization human life begins not with a sperm or an egg you know it begins at the sperm egg i think the distinction you're making is a person and life like yeah it's always human because that's the classification but when does it have personhood is what you're making is a person and life like yeah it's always human because that's the classification but when does it have personhood is what you're talking that's also a good question but it's like it's human rights not personhood if you're going to say like when so you're going to roll a ball down a hill at what point does the ball start rolling first you're going to you're going to push the ball along a flat surface and then it's going to roll down but so if you push it is it rolling down the hill yet as it's traveling horizontally? Only when it starts to fall down the hill because...

Hold on. You said, is it rolling down the hill? If it's rolling on a flat surface, the answer is no. Exactly. And if it's going down the hill, the answer is yes. So is it a human? Well, I'd look at a zygote and I can't determine. Like from what I've been told, and maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe this is not good information. You cannot determine a zygote. Is it called a zygote? From another animal zygote. So you can. Well, you can actually. And I mean, maybe on the naked eye looking at it's too small to see. So in that sense, you can't.

But as biologists know, how do you know what something is? You look at the parents, right? So a single cell embryo has a human mother and a human father. A single cell elephant embryo has an elephant mother and an elephant father. So we know it's a human. We know it's a human. It doesn't matter at all. That's just inductive reasoning. No, inductive reasoning no no no no no this question is nonsensical whether or not you can recognize what something is doesn't change what it is i can't tell if it's gold or pyrite doesn't change it from gold or pyrite if there is a human life and you're like well i can't tell if

it's human or not that's like saying someone who's got a disfigurement may not be human no they're human if it appears to be something you can kind of play like it is like if someone because you don't know what it is doesn't change what it is i agree with that but if someone comes up to you a hologram points a gun to your head and you think it's real you're gonna probably think something real is not the same as whether or not it is real think of it as fact yeah but your body will react as if it is but perception is immaterial to the question of objectivity i don't know because because- If I'm an IVF specialist, right? You know, IVF, you're creating new embryos in a petri dish to implant them in a woman down the line, right? But my big aha moment is when I have achieved sperm egg fusion and I have all these embryos now, right? And now I have all these

little embryos that I can then go on and plant and they'll continue to develop into ultimately some of them. We hope a full term baby. You know, I have huge issues with the ethics of IVF. I think it's very, very problematic. But the point is, you know, the IVF specialist knows I'm trying to create a human embryo for these parents that just pay me to do this. Right. So I think biologists are in agreement. And we know from the fact that there are human parents this is human it's human a single cell single cell humans are very very tiny doesn't look like a human the way you and i look like humans right but a newborn baby doesn't look like you right i mean they have this huge head and the line of thinking we look different at different stages in our development as humans we look different and sometimes we're so small you can hardly you can't see you but

that doesn't mean you're not there if someone's suffering from what is it called porphyria or whatever where like the vampire legend comes from someone someone has some sort of disfigurement or whatever and looks inhuman so they would say it's not a human and then they would not give it rights okay that's wrong we've we've very uh in in recent history understood this you may human, but it doesn't change the fact that you have human rights. Well, now I'm talking about chimeras. Okay, this is a real thing. They're actually splicing DNA from different animals. It is crazy.

So if a woman, a human woman, is gestating a chimeric animal of some sort of human-pig hybrid or something, is it a human? Yeah. It's a good question. It's a very good question. We are playing God with human lives, and in these Frankenstein-like experiments, that we're not acknowledging any ethics around it as guardrails, and so we're doing this insane stuff, and I think it's opening the door to all of these abuses.

Abuses of humans, for sure. There's a million frozen embryos in IVF right now a million children in deep freeze right now let me ask you said you said if something has human if someone like a chimera is a human i i that's that's a good question i i don't know i think we we have to if they're part human dna but then they're part um apes i think we have to proceed very very and we were able they were actually able to live and be gestated right that's the big question can they actually live with human kidneys and a human liver is that a human no i don't think but what if it's being gestated in a human woman no no what if the pig doesn't have kidneys but it has a human brain this is interesting i was just having this debate with

the youtuber destiny about what constitutes a human being and i was saying that it is you your brain doesn't your brain is an important part of you as a human being. And I was saying that it is, your brain doesn't, your brain is an important part of you as a human, very important. It's the central control center for your body, right? But as human beings, we are our bodies and we are also our souls. And there's a lot of mystery to that

in terms of, you know, you can't, I think you can observe the soul through nature in a lot of ways, the actions of the soul. But when it comes to, you know, if we were to somehow create a chimera and we were able to do this, I mean, it's a complicated question, which is why I don't think we should be going there. Well, it's been done. I mean, it's… The reason I bring it… I think the problem is we're…

I mean, it's been done, but there's not an ability to develop the baby. I think that's where it's failing, right? No, no, no. Isn't that true right now? We've grown animals with human organs. Right, right, right. That's been done. I'm saying that this sort of 50-50% achievement, 50% human DNA, 50% some other animal DNA from

the beginning. That's what I'm talking about. I don't think that's been achieved. But that's fiction, right? Right. So I think if it has some human, I would argue, if it has like a human kidney or something and a pig, it's still a pig so if that human animal the question is so it's a human brain as smart as a human the the

intelligence of a 27 year old can write and paint and do everything communicate but you're like that's a pig i would i would i would put special ethical protections on that and on that entity because we are we are playing god when we shouldn't. We shouldn't be doing that stuff. It's bad. It's wrong. But if we were to do it, it would be wrong to harvest that pig human's organs. It would be wrong to kill them. I think we would have to treat them very carefully and not violate the rights of this creature that we should not have created, like a Frankenstein experiment. It's wrong that we're doing it. And it should be banned.

It should not be done. Well, but it is. I'm not denying what you're saying. But it's being done because we haven't banned it. And it's also, to some degree, there's a lot of funding, funding this crazy experimentation on embryos and humans that is being funded by the government.

And that's so horrible said we are all complicit aliens are doing it you said earlier that um aliens are telling them to do it i don't know but it's horrible and it shouldn't happen you said the way you determine if like a one day old zygote is uh i think it's the zygote is a human is by who the parents are who are the parents that are gestating the thing so if a if a human woman is gestating a one day old zygote of a chimeric animal you would just assume it's a human because it's got a human mother that's a faulty logic that's an inductive reasoning that fails at that point i don't i don't think that's the case i mean back to the kind of question of is it human or not like if there was some possibility to have

it there be a human father but some like a you know a monkey mother if that's human z if that was possible right i would say well i don't think that we've successfully done that i think i think we have it fails when we try uh uh it fails when you when you have it 50 50 it fails with a female chimp with uh human with male with human sperm but according to legend the russians did it but the reason the reason uh it's it's not been done in public is because the public would reject it good as we should i'm i would i would bet a large sum of money that china's already done it well listen if we were if anyone is doing it and if anyone

is succeeding in doing it i think we need to apply careful um protection of whatever these creatures that we are creating without responsibility, without ethics, irresponsibly, we should treat them carefully and with protection because they are carrying an imprint of humanity. So we should be very careful with that. One of the things that Tim said that I think is important, the idea that we can ban this or we can stop,

that is absolute fiction why we ban rape because we like okay we don't ban china from exactly your muslims and concentration this is not us what we do in the confines of the united states that's what i'm saying we but we can't ban it for china but the things the things that you're talking about are going to have repercussions throughout all of human like for through human history like because you're really what you're you're talking about are going to have repercussions throughout all of human, like, through human history. Really, what you're getting into is what kind of ways are people allowed to reproduce? What kind of people are allowed to reproduce? What kind of people are we allowed to make when we reproduce?

Because in very short order, you're going to be able to decide, I want a child with these traits, those traits. And that's wrong. And people, you can say it's wrong. What was that? You can't stop it. No, you can't. People say it's wrong, but it's coming in another country, in a place with different

morals, like whether it be China or- Mexico. I mean, exactly. People are going to go to Mexico to get their kids genetically engineered if the US doesn't allow it. Then those kids are going to grow up in the United States as genetically engineered. They're going to have DNA from different species that's implanted through some virus. Look, they just cured a kid's blindness with the herpes virus, putting some genes in or whatever.

It'll come to the point where there will be some dude walking around with cat ears or whatever because his parents were weird anime people. And then you're going to be be like he's part animal you're not gonna be able to tell billionaires that they can't go to another country and make sure that their children will never get cancer like when you when you go when you've got a billionaire or millionaires and you're like if you in in this country you're not allowed to do it but you can fly to whatever country in europe and they'll allow you to to to edit the gene so your child will never have cancer so your child will never have this will never have any number of genetic defects that you can guarantee that that your kids won't have anymore you are not you are not going to be able to tell people they can't do

and there can be ethical treatments depending how it's done so i think that's an important distinction to make but back to the kind of question of well they're going to do it anyways if it's something that's unethical right that we could all agree this is an unethical thing like you know uh creating a 50 if it was possible i don't think it is but creating a 50 you know human and a 50 pig or something but my point is that's not the issue i don't think it's unethical no no no hold on the percentage the percentage rate of someone's dna doesn't matter but just because we can doesn't mean we should, right? And the whole point of a law, the whole point of any society, any civilization is to have rules of the road.

We don't live physically without rules of the road. So what do you do when someone from outside the United States is genetically engineered and now lives in the United States? We treat them with dignity and respect, 1000%. But we still have a responsibility in our country and whatever country we are a part of. This isn't just the United States. Other countries are called to be ethical too. It's not like just Americans should be ethical. Everybody should be ethical.

And there's a lot of amazing countries outside of the United States that I would argue are more ethical than us. Malta, as an example, has eradicated abortion in Europe. So there's countries that are more ethical than us in the West. Chile is a very pro-life Latin American country. has eradicated abortion in Europe. So there's countries that are more ethical than us in the West. Chile is a very pro-life Latin American country.

But the point is, we should be focused on what is the right thing for a society to do? What's the role of the law? And then we should pursue that instead of saying, well, technology is going to figure it out and eventually we're doomed to it. Think about nuclear warfare, right? We have nuclear weaponry. So we could just say, well, we're all doomed to die by nuclear weaponry at some point. I mean, you could make that same argument, right? But you could say, well, no,

if we treat each other ethically and we practice ethics and we have good rule of law and good systems, we can avoid mass destruction. Well, historically, it's always been like war historically, not always, but over time. So I'm concerned that a country

will develop super soldiers that can like see super long distance, shoot, throw really far and that they would invade and conquer. And if we don't have that same technology and super soldier program that we've just become serfs. I think we can, if we started doing unethical things because another country was unethical, it's just somehow compete with them. We would die by our own sword in the end. But if we didn't, it's simple. It's not worth the risk of doing what's unethical just because someone else is in the hope that you'll save yourself because you're actually killing yourself.

And then you cease to exist. And then you cease to exist. So that's why it's better to go down in flames doing the right thing in the end and kill the innocent person. But what about the nuclear weapons program? So right now, Republicans are doing literally nothing as Democrats indict and criminally charge a whole plethora of Republicans. So my focus in terms of all this is cultural. We need cultural influence. You need media influence.

And we seem to be winning on that front. Timcast. Save the day. Sound of Freedom. Sound of Freedom is awesome. Did you see it? Yeah, that movie. But there's good people.

Democrats resort to blunt force. And then you just get Republicans saying, well, this may reach the level of inquiry. We'll we'll we'll we'll have a conversation in the committee about whether or not we can inquire as to what this could mean. So in the long run, you could argue that without any meaningful resistance, what Democrats are doing, then the Republicans cease to exist. But I have hope that in the human heart is written the moral law. And I've seen this myself. And even in the most distorted, depraved person, there's still that spark of the human law and of've seen this myself and even in the most distorted depraved person there's still that spark of the human law and of goodness and if we can cultivate that then we can get these big bad democrats in this scenario you're talking about tim to do the right thing

and so that is that should be the end game right let's let's the law rule of law is important but also instead of helping people do the right thing so because we're all made and called to do the right thing until they start we're gonna jump to uh political medical news we have this story from timcast.com mitch mcconnell abruptly stops speaking freezes during press conference the senate minority leader was escorted to the room by senator john barrasso of wyoming let me play this video for you it is saddening and uh i would describe it as a seizure, potentially a stroke. You guys ready? Here we go. Is there... Oh, sorry. I got to turn the audio on.

Bring it up. No, I just got to press the audio there. Fortunately, he doesn't speak for 30 seconds. Right. That's it. That's the video. He says cooperation and a string of and then just freezes.

I went to a fundraiser a long time ago, political fundraiser for seizure awareness. And this guy who suffered grand mal seizures was explaining how often he'll be in public meetings or at work and he'll freeze exactly like Mitch McConnell did. And people will laugh at him. And he could die. And he was like, awareness on what seizures look like is extremely important because of Hollywood, everyone thinks you fall to the ground and start spazzing out. Some people said, I think it's like an absent or absence seizure, absent seizure, where you just freeze and lock up.

And a lot of people were tweeting that this may be what it was. Apparently, he said that he got lightheaded and he was fine and then went on to have like a normal meeting afterwards or whatever but i think what we're seeing here is you know we talked a whole lot about aliens in law and morality our political leaders they keep winning no matter what no matter what because our culture is dead. Because this country will just walk into a booth and rubber stamp D or R without a thought. Because it is a dead culture. So against democracy. So they vote for Pelosi.

They vote for Mitch McConnell. They vote for people who should have retired 30 years ago. And I don't see it changing unless there's a hard fall. You think it was TV that deadened culture? No, I think it's a straw-sod generation theory. So I would argue what you're describing, there's a lot of truth to what you're saying, Tim. And I think that it is ultimately a spiritual sickness

that we are facing because we have lost the plot. What is the point of human existence? Is it to just take? Is it to just become more powerful or more perfect? what is the point of human existence? Is it to just take? Is it to just, you know, become more powerful or more perfect? Like, what's the point of human existence? Is it to love and to serve and ultimately for eternity for God?

Or is it to take? And that difference, I think, if people are kind of wishy-washy on that, they don't know what their purpose is, then we don't really care enough. And then we just, you know, maybe stamp like you're saying, D or R or whatever it is, we're going in and we're not really caring enough to really fight.

But I do think a lot of people are fighting for the country right now. And they care. And they're raising young families. I know my family, we're raising a young family, we're passionate, we care about the future, we think there is a future. And enough of those people, if enough of us do that, we can change it. It's going to be painful and hard at points, but I think we can change the country and make it better. So I don't think it's hopeless. I don't think it's hopeless. Dianne Feinstein, remember? She's out for, what was it, a couple months or something? How long was she out for? And then she's like, I was here the whole time. I absolutely despise these people. Mitch McConnell, we can talk about his politics all day and night. I'll

tell you, oh, I don't like he does this. I don't like he does that. But there is nothing that that gives me more disdain for this man than this medical episode. I have no sympathy, no empathy for his freeze up for his stroke or seizure because he is gripping on to the to the leadership position that a younger person needs to have to help this country, and he's incapable of doing it. But it's not just him. It is a problem in this country and all of Congress

where they're all... And look at who is running for president. We're going to have Biden versus Trump. I think Trump's better than Biden, but even Trump is older. That's one of the big reasons we were saying DeSantis is probably better is that he's a lot younger.

Unfortunately, however, I don't think DeSantis is going to be able to pull it off because he can't seem to get a hold of his campaign. These people need to leave. Youth in and of itself, I think, is not the key. But to your point, I think, you know, if you're very to the point of having strokes and you need medical leave, you should take care of your health and not be trying to lead the country in this case. But I think it's not just youth, it's wisdom. And I think there's a crisis of wisdom. And that's where we have a lot of even young leaders are terrible. So it's not like they

just because you're young, you're better. If you're young, you could be even more foolish. McConnell doesn't seem to have any real wisdom about him either. That could be true. I will not argue with that. I mean, I think he has done some good things in his career. But I do think I agree with you. We need we need more. We need fresh, not just fresh leadership. We need good, good leadership. Healthy brains, man. Less calcified.

I don't know if it's calcified pineal gland, but we less aspartame in people's diets. Less high fructose corn syrup. Yeah, we're corroding the neural network. Look, someone points out on Twitter, any job in this country, you are 81 years old and suffer a seizure. They would say, look, it's time you go home, right? This is not the job for you. In fact, can he even be driving anymore? I'm not trying to rag on older people, but there is a point at which you are too young

for a job and too old for a job. We're not going to put 12-year-olds in the coal mines. We should be putting 81-year-olds in Congress. Do you think we should do age limits now? It is a tough question because of the rate of technology. It should be more about capability. I agree with that. I think if you're struggling with serious medical conditions, just like as you described from work, you could take a leave. So would it be Congress that votes to have the other congressman removed if there's a medical thing? I would love it right now if Congress voted to, the Senate voted to remove Mitch McConnell. It's almost an imperative.

We're missing a Kentucky representative right now. Feinstein should be out and McConnell should be out. It's tricky when they've been democratically elected, right? That is back to what you were talking about earlier tim you know if we got into a system where we get to just out people because we consider them physically unfit but they were democratically elected you know it gets into no but you can't we we we remove people from congress all the time or not all the time it's happened a couple times you vote to send someone home uh i i wonder if vivek ramaswamy he has he had a couple

proposals one publicly he said there should be a civics test in order to vote i'm not a fan of that i don't think that makes sense what i really like is you have to sign up for the selective service if you want to vote if you sign up for the selective service it you get a voter id and if you have that you're allowed to vote and so i think that will solve a great deal of of our problems overnight vivek actually clarified on the show last week he thinks when you turn 18 you don't have voting rights till you're 25 unless you pass a civics test or do six months of community service or military service so it's either or i like the civics test do you do or don't i disagree so you don't like the civics civics Do you do or don't? I disagree. So you don't like the civics test?

I'm not a big fan of it. I don't think it necessarily solves the problem. The thing is about signing up for the Selective Service is you're basically saying I'm willing to die for this country. And guess what? It's a very simple sign on the dotted line that no Democrat would be able to convince a run-of-the-mill urban liberal to sign. But every conservative would be like, I this country put my name down however a lot of people are going to say i wouldn't sign up for that this country is corrupt no no if the voting base is just comprised of people who have pledged their lives to this country you are not going to have these corrupt people because they can't get elected yeah but what if you know crazy president was like oh now

all you guys all you voters signed up for the selective service we're going to war because they vote because it's only those people who get to vote so when the president comes in and says i'm initiating the draft it's those people who say recall yeah any impeachment anything that that like shrinks the number of of ignorant votes uh i'm for so limit voting like in any way possible in my opinion i don't think that uh that it requires service um i do get where you're coming from i i understand the uh the the the idea that you have to have something on the line i personally think that maybe owning a business or owning probably like something like that because you can start a business with a cell phone so like if you actually

start a business then you have some kind of skin in the game and it's and the barrier for entry is real low for that and again i'm not saying it's perfect but i'm i just don't think that that you have to go through you know serving the country uh but you don't should be signing up for selective service does not mean you're going to do any service oh okay so you're oh yeah right it means that if the united states is invaded you you've pledged your life to defend it. Yeah. Now, a lot of people argue that, but the draft and World War I, II and the Korean War and Vietnam, I'm like, no, no, no.

Listen, my point is this. There's corruption right now. It may just be an idealistic perfect system. But imagine if the only people who could vote, meaning there could not be a foreign invasion of Syria, everybody who had to go fight it were the people who were voting. They'd be like, I'm not going to go do that. So I'm voting against these people. Everyone else who sits in their ivory tower, sipping tea, being like, we should go to war for oil, wouldn't have a vote. And if they wanted to go, they'd vote. And you know what? There may come a point where let's say you've got a 350 million people in this country, only 175 actually

choose to sign up for selective service to vote. And there's a split vote. And a 350 million people in this country only 175 actually choose to sign up for selective service to vote and there's a split vote and 100 million say we want to go to war for this reason and 75 say you don't but that's the point of saying i pledge to this system it's not always going to be about what you want but you know everyone else voting for it has pledged the same thing as you and we don't even have everyone voting though who i think is well equipped to vote so this is and all i disagree But I disagree with that entirely. There's a lot of people that don't vote that I think should vote, is what I'm saying. Really?

Yeah, especially like in the pro-life space and in the space where people have values. They love the country. They love what we were founded on. They believe in the future for the country. Often, yes, many are active and politically involved. But the thing is a lot of people who are doing that are busy running their businesses and raising their families and so maybe they're not doing every election you know maybe they're not as involved as they need to be

so we encourage more civic engagement right more and more and more and mitch mcconnell his biggest issue is not i mean i hope he's well you know but i think his biggest issue is a failure to lead on fundamental human rights and the republican party has made some strides because it's in our platform that life begins at fertilization and that abortion should not be permitted and that legal protection is deserved by all pre-born humans you know mitch mcconnell has not led like that he's been squishy on you know the fastest way to get that is? Exactly what I just said. I went, when I worked for these non-profits 15 some odd

years ago, they said anybody here want to go see Death Cab for Cutie live? And I was like, that's like my favorite band. I would love to go see them live. And they were like, here's your vinyl all-access pass. Here's your stack of voter registration forms. You're going to walk around and register people to vote but it gets you backstage access.

And I was like, yes. And I walked around back. You want to vote? You want to vote? I did not know their political affiliation, but come on. It's Chicago. They're all Democrats. What if I walked up to them and said, hey, do you want to vote?

And they went, sure, I'll sign it up. Just sign that you want to join the draft and fight in the military. No way. I'm not signing that. And they'd leave. And then you'd go to some like country music event where some guys wearing an american flag saying about how he loves this country and you'd walk up and be like anybody want to vote like sure would you would you sign a pledge saying

you'll fight for this country if we get invaded and be in the drafted like i love america and they'd sign it and then i think that's a good but what concerns me if you're not willing to serve in the most dire of circumstances meaning there's no obligation in the immediate, only in the event of us being attacked, then you don't get to tell us how we run this country. I like that. Except if all these people sign up for the Selective Service and then the president's like, we're going to war. And they're like, no, no, no. You're like, well, you already voted for me. It's called impeachment.

Get your gear. And then the generals step in and it's like, what are you going to like? We're going to war. There's not enough time when when the president declares that the president shouldn't be declaring war first of all the draft can't happen overnight declare war right can't only congress is the only group of people that can and i also think you you're going to have uh greater alignment between the people who are eligible for conflict. First of all, there will still be a military meaning a draft will not necessarily occur. That's

the point. It's a very, very simple solution that requires very little other than commitment that typically does not happen. So you would equally draft men and women in that scenario? Women can work in factories and women can work in homes and women can work in hospitals. To help with the war effort. But you wouldn't have them do the same jobs soldiers march on their bellies so if we don't put women in combat they can certainly do all sorts of infrastructure-based support work

and even maintaining households if you're more traditional i do think i do what i agree with what you're saying is that we need more patriotism patriotism and a sense of a shared project that this is our country that we should care about together and make stronger and better. I completely agree with that. Not sure about that approach necessarily, but if there's a way we can the best way I would argue to do that, what I'm describing, that shared project is just a lot of education, shoring up good institutions, shoring up the American family. Some of the best public policy that I think we could be doing right now is not affecting how we're voting, but it's affecting how we support the American family. Investing in the American family through child tax credits,

through giving more support to the American family, giving them write-offs, giving them more, you know, even a subsidy. Give families a subsidy. If you have a child, you get a subsidy. Especially if you're a married couple, you get a subsidy especially if you're a married couple you get a subsidy because we want to encourage those three kids no taxes i would say yeah that sounds great people would have three kids that sounds absolutely or or like an 85 reduction in your taxes or any something anything i mean i'm sorry i'm sorry married and three kids

no taxes they are our most precious resource children. They're treated like crap in this country, especially if they're pre-birth. And if we change that and our public policy helped change that, I think there would be beautiful outcomes. Because what matters, it's not about our selfish individual pursuits. I want to do, I'm not going to have kids

because I just want to travel the world or whatever it is. It's about children are the future. We learn how to love through sacrifice and through service and through responsibility to each other and if we could encourage that through public policy that would be a beautiful thing not to force it not to force it but to encourage what if a couple of businessmen a man and a woman get together like yo let's have some kids we don't even have to raise them we just have them and then we'll get tax credit and then they have kids the

kids have to be married they get married they have kids the kids are criminals they're horrible bullies at school that happens now yeah but would they get credit would they get the same tax credits as the people who are committed to their family yes that's a that's a bad move because you'd have a lot of piss poor parents in that situation you still do today if we said if you are married and have three kids you don't pay taxes you will you are more likely to see people stay together. There right now, there's a guy and a lady and they had three kids already and they're split up. And that's bad for the kids. If we said, if you're married, you're going to, or how about this?

Single family household, three kids married. Meaning the guy and the woman have to live together with the kids. Then you get a tax break. Wait, you're saying they're not married, but get- No, no, no. Have to be married. Have to live together and have at least three kids. And then you're exempt from income tax.

Wow. You can send your kids to college if you want. You could buy cars. You could actually go on vacation with your kids. That's bold, Tim. But I mean, we do need to encourage the American family because right now it is too hard to raise a family. And this should be the, not too hard, meaning impossible, but it's harder than it should

be. And we need to make this country the friendliest place in the world to raise a family and this should be the not too hard meaning impossible but it's harder than it should be and we need to make this country the friendliest place in the world to raise a family that's what that should be the american dream agreed that should be the focus of public policy let's talk about the current state of politics we have this story from the daily mail oh boy dramatic moment hunter's lawyer told prosecutors sweetheart deal was off after judge eviscerated agreement apparently uh one of the guys yelled out i think this was um biden lawyer chris clark said i don't know what you're trying to accomplish then we'll rip it up he says you can't get around that so basically what happens is they go in hunter biden's gonna supposed to plead guilty to this sweetheart deal where he gets a slap on the

wrist and no jail time the judge then says well hold on there a minute this doesn't include any faro violations any potential far of this, this plea agreement, just tax evasion, right? So are you going to charge him later on? The prosecution says we could. Biden's lawyers are like, hey, no way, no way. The judge then it's like, what's going on? Looks at the deals off.

They have to go. There's a recess. They negotiate. It looks like the deal might be back on. Now the deal's on hold. Here's what people are speculating. It seems that Hunter Biden's lawyers went to these prosecutors and the deal was they will not prosecute Hunter on anything if he just accepts these little charges and a slap on the wrist. It only says on paper these charges, but trust us,

we're not going to come after you for anything else. But the judge asked the question. If the judge just rubber stamped it, it'd be done. And their backroom deal is done. But the judge was like, what about FARA? Well, the prosecution can't lie. It's a question of fact. Can you charge him? Well, we can. They get mad saying you're you're double crossing us. That's what it seems like. It seems like some shady backroom dealing to throw some red meat at the press and create a scenario where the media will say Hunter Biden pleads guilty. Look, the DOJ is not biased. They went for the president's own son.

What do you mean they're going after Trump for political reasons? They went after the president's son. It's totally non-biased. But that backroom deal was no good when the judge spotted it. What are the FARA violations? What's FARA? Was it Foreign Agent Registration Act or something like that? That if you're acting on behalf of a foreign government, you have to register.

And Hunter Biden was with Burisma and probably a bunch of other countries, and he did not. Well, that's odd. You think you, I mean, personally. If the judge didn't know this, and if they got any other judge, and that judge was like, looks in order to me, I guess, bang, done. Wasn't Hunter Biden's computer full of pornography? Well, yeah, him.

Yeah, so it's just the whole thing is obviously very, very sad. But it also just shows the state of the culture, right? That, you know, the president, even the first family, right? The son is involved in all these things. And I think it's one thing to talk about tax evasion. It sounds like it happened and he's pleading guilty, but all of these other things, you know, in a, think about it. We don't, I think as a society, we're not hard on porn. We think porn's fine. Everyone, we say

everyone, most people use it. It's not a big deal. It's legal. And so, you know, Hunter Biden can do all this stuff and it's crazy and then oh but he did tax evasion so that's the bad thing that he did this is crazy let me let me read this and all the stuff about prostitutes and strippers and it's just it's all all dark stuff noreca warned lawyers the deal was unprecedented and possibly unconstitutional and could prevent prosecutors from going after biden for other crimes in the future she insisted she was acting in Hunter's interest by making sure he knew exactly how much protection he would or would not get under the deal, but she also unloaded on it, sometimes in personal terms about the position it put her in as an arbiter. You keep telling me that I have no

role. I shouldn't even be reading this thing, she vented. Her admonitions forced a tense negotiation if the judge left her courtroom. Teams of lawyers faced off in talks for an hour into the hearing. They had to hash out among themselves what exactly they had agreed to, then sell it to a judge who was increasingly skeptical. The end result ended in a politically perilous delay for Biden's campaign, set to be helmed from Wilmington, an estate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We get it. This is crazy that the judge was so shocked.

The judge said the unprecedented nature of the agreement forced her to step in but bizarrely she also said she sympathized with hunter mr biden i know you want to get this over with she told him at the end of the three-hour slugfest which had the effect of pushing off hunter's plea and extending his legal woes into late summer and the fall as his father gears up his presidential re-election campaign so maybe roseanne was right about those military tribunals right interesting i i mean i i it still blows my mind that he's getting he's gotten away with as much as he's gotten away with that that this is the that he might be able to still might be able to walk away from this with it with a plea deal it's it's i don't have a whole lot more to add other than it's just really a black pill it's my opinion yeah it's the most emperor has no clothes thing and that what that metaphor is is like everyone can see that the emperor's not wearing anything but every but the emperor's

telling people oh i'm wearing a robe so everyone's like yeah he's wearing a robe but they all know he's not and then it's a little kid that's like he's not wearing any clothes so like we all know hunter biden did this stuff the evidence is there i mean i maybe we should say i don't know but it is very apparent there's a lot of evidence and uh for joe biden just to be pretending that it's that it's like not a big deal is the most insane abuse of power legal authority and executive authority in this country i've ever seen in my lifetime i mean i saw george bush take the world to war because of weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist this is the most disgusting thing i've ever seen in my lifetime. I mean, I saw George Bush take the world to war because of weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. This is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen a president do.

This is robbing our culture of the truth. It is not healthy. We need to change this. War is pretty bad. Yeah, but it's been happening my whole life. This is like brainwashing people to be evil. That doesn't make war less bad, but I get what you're saying.

This is like, it's like so in plain sight, which makes it, in my opinion, more disgusting. It's like little kids are like, it's okay to lie? Well, it's interesting because I think, you know, the president is such, the liar word is a good one for him because he professes this faith. So,

you know, I'm Catholic as many people know, you know, I became Catholic in college and Joe Biden says like, he's Catholic. Like he ran kind of on, I'm the Catholic grandpa. I'm this good man.

I'm the uniter. I'm this, you know, man of integrity. And, you know, separate from this whole scandal, right?

He is the most pro abortion president, the most pro sexual deviancy president in probably our history. Maybe Obama was up there on abortion, but he is he's been more pro-abortion than even Obama. So the White House is a disgrace. I got to say, absolutely disgrace. And you saw like the topless, you know, you know, woman or man who is dressing as a woman and had you know fake breasts there were three that were topless i mean what a shame that this has become our white house and our leadership pro-abortion pro-sexual deviancy pro-chaos and unreality you know a man is a woman a woman is a man and i got i gotta say this it's a shame it's a shame there's like the worst thing he's done but he also sniffs

kids and like inappropriately touches them and things like that that is very weird too it might be the time and the time and the place because we need i feel like the the earth is in the most desperate situation it's ever been in my lifetime right now and we need real like straightforward leadership so it's like coupled with that it's like what he did yeah it's not that bad he just lied about his son being an abusive pornography guy or whatever but like or a lot he had his son do billion dollar deals it's like okay it's not as bad as murdering a hundred thousand people or murdering a million babies allowing a million babies here to be murdered but we need like george bush had the leeway to take us to war in 2003 we don't have

the leeway to mess around right now this is like get your shit together or we're done i think he just needs to be voted out asap i mean there's no there's no i pray for the president actually i pray for i believe conversions are possible but it is it is we are in a severe crisis because of this not just because of this white house obviously it's lending to the problem there's just systemic rot right now across the country i don't know if you're gonna ask this phil but will happen is if we don't seize moral authority on earth it'll become the economic forum and the chinese communist party will seize moral authority where do we ground our moral authority right and that goes back to the stuff that you know we were talking about earlier but if we don't get first things right first human rights are protected for the most vulnerable members of a society if we can't treat the most vulnerable correctly and if we can't shape you

know men are off with hookers and pornography and women are on only fans i mean all of this cultural chaos that we're in enveloped in where are we going to have the moral authority to go say we're better than china we're going to go to war with china we need to fix the rot in our country and in our culture i feel like if ian was dictator of the earth it would be the most brutal totalitarian regime ever experienced. It would be, it would be one hell of a ride, man.

Force DMT. There's no way. Oh, okay. I don't think there's any way to dictate earth. That's the most insane thing. Not, I mean,

I think Ian has a lot of good intentions. It's just, we've got it. We got to form the conscience, form our morality. I don't think porn. Well, firstly,

I think porn means a lot of things. There's really horrible sex going on on the internet on YouPorn and things. But then there's also really loving sex happening on YouPorn. Like you see the occasional video

of two people that really like each other. Is that a thing, YouPorn? Yeah, it's YouPorn.com. You know, it's a porn site. Yeah, X2. There's all these different ones. But if it's beautiful

loving sex between two people and it's truly loving, then it should be for just them in the context of marriage. And it's going to potentially bring life into the world because sex is designed to do that. And so they need to be prepared to raise those children and they shouldn't be selling it for people to watch on the internet. Well,

I've learned really loving sex. I've learned how to have sex from certain videos. Like different positions, different, different rhythms. Like, and, and that's like, was helpful

for me in the long run. So I don't think it's all evil and like we should just never watch ever sex personally. Well, I think that's an interesting question because I think if, for example, I think if you're in a marriage and you are wanting to love your spouse better, I think it's absolutely appropriate to learn more about sex so that you can learn how to have the best sex with your spouse. And the best way to do that is with your spouse, right? That's what I think. Not by watching other people have sex. Well, I mean, sometimes if people are in an insulated environment, they just repeat the same thing over and over and over again. That's all they know because they don't know there's other methodologies. The problem with watching people have sex is typically people do that so

that they can have sexual gratification from that. It's not it's not like a class i agree with that because if you for orgasm it's pornography for orgasm typically if you let your mind think of the person on the video that's like demoralizing but if you watch the porn and then think about your girlfriend that's like a healthy i found it feels a lot healthier And I use the technique on the girlfriend. Well, I would say that sex is for two people who have committed to each other for life. And that they're in that commitment. They're willing to bring children into the world because sex brings life. Even when you use contraception, it fails.

50% of the people who have abortions were using contraception. So contraception is not some fail safe. It fails. You know, it doesn't always work. And so marriage is the beautiful solution to all of this. And in a marriage, I think you can definitely, you know, maybe study about how do we have sex with each other better. But I don't think pornography has any role in that. I've heard people say, well, we watch porn as a couple in order to have a stronger and more loving relationship. And I don't think that really works in the real world.

One of the top reasons for divorce is pornography. I wonder if the end result. The second top reason listed for why people divorce is pornography. At the end of the day, you're sexually visualizing someone who's not your spouse. And you should reserve that for just your spouse of all of this is just like the left upload their brains to computers and then humans the conservative humans just stay and have families and live normal traditional human lives do you think oh what do you say phil well i mean to tim's point i've i've mentioned before i think at some point there's going to be actual protection for people that are not augmented.

The way that we have carved out space for the Amish in the United States, how they don't have to follow the same laws that everyone else does. There will be people that are going to say, I'm not going to get any kind of augmentation or whatever. And there's going to be people that are going to be augmented that are going to have to protect them from other people that are augmented, like real sci-fi kind of shit. And they're like,

but here's the thing. I mean, the whole thing about, well, the traditional people will go to the traditional things and then everyone else will go crazy. I think all people, we have the same human nature.

And so we have a lot of shared struggles, right? And then bad ideology can make us do bad behaviors that ultimately can warp our natures. But I think all people are called to the same goodness. And so I would say liberals on the left should get married, too. They should have children, too. They should be faithful, too.

They should be against pornography and abortion and all these things, too. And I think some are. I mean, I know, for example, I know some more progressives entering the pro-life movement and a lot of them doing amazing work in the pro-life movement. And many of them are, as they're learning about sex and life and bioethics, many of them are becoming not just pro-life, but they're becoming, okay, I'm pro-marriage, I'm pro these more traditional values, but I can still maybe have more left-leaning beliefs on maybe immigration

or these other topics, but they're very passionate about marriage now as well as life and what are seen as the more traditional values values so i think their traditional values are not just for conservatives if they're if it's true if it's morality it should be for everybody like i do think men and women are different testosterone i've noticed i started working out like a week two weeks ago and my testosterone's been out of control like my my sex drive has been like a rocket and i important information yeah i thank you tim and uh i think it's like abstinence conversation tonight especially considering our guest is killing me i'm sitting here dying so she's talking about babies it's her thing i know i know but in talking about

fairly intimate details about his to the top history yes oh continue but it feels like abstinence i'm loving it like um if were to say I don't know Are you suggesting Delete all the porn sites Prevent anyone From being able to see it Ever kind of thing Yes I think we should Ban pornography

And I also think that We should as a society Move towards And we should Set up Say hey Monogamy is awesome We should celebrate

Monogamy Marriage And we also I think Should encourage people To not be sexually active Until they're married One of the that i i hear you talking about encouraging but i feel like you want to get rid of things so you're talking about legislation definitely porn and abortion so legislation see that that's where i have especially abortion i mean i i i definitely

get your point on abortion i've i've been feeling it all night so and and and because they're human because they're if we believe they're human beings or agree that they're human beings and we this is the pro-life case just boil down it is always wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human most people agree with that unless we're at war abortion well in that case it's still wrong because under just war theory you're not supposed to target civilians right sometimes they die accidentally but you can't intentionally target the civilian right enemy commands are not innocent and are not innocent yeah but when exactly I'm Dresden because they were running product through the city

not there can be war crimes there can be war crimes so that but that the idea of a crime within war means it's always wrong to intentionally kill an innocent person an innocent human abortion intentionally kills an innocent human therefore abortion is always wrong and that means not only should we not have abortions but we should ban abortions because these are human beings that deserve equal protection under the law the 14th amendment says that we have equal protection we should have equal protection under the law all persons and no state has the right to deprive life of any person without due process and the only there's no due process for the unborn child the pro-abortion crowd has is

just to say that babies aren't alive right which is no i mean deep down i think most people know that's completely i think watch that on this show i asked if it wasn't alive the child wasn't alive you wouldn't need to kill them i asked him when does he think life begins and he said sometime after birth a few months after birth something something like that, I think he said. Yeah, that's the exact same argument that the people that would argue for post-birth abortions make. These are the kind of people that like torture squirrels and stuff. I would argue for when it becomes a human, not necessarily. I do believe it's living tissue and that it becomes a human over time.

But I want to get back to porn you you want to say every day um if we banned it it feels like this forced abstinence mentality that i've been told my whole life doesn't work like if you tell a kid don't have sex they just go off and get pregnant when they're 15 because they don't have any sexual education sure and sort of prevent it oh anyway you know what i mean well there's a multi-billion dollar pornography industry right and so we can penalize that to say, no, you can't be, because there's a lot of sex trafficking that happens in it. A lot of children that are, I mean, the harms associated with the creation of porn are so numerous.

Children caught up in it. I mean, child pornography, child assault material has been proliferating online. Once you start talking about child pornography, now you're talking about a different topic because I understand that there are correlations and there are links, but the topic that we're discussing, if we're talking about adult entertainment,

that's adult stuff because no one at this table is in any way going to be pro child rape or anything, which is all it is. So the associations with adult movies and then with child rape, I think they're far enough different where we can at least say, hey, the adult industry doesn't lead to child rape. Child rape happens independently. I hear what you're saying, but the reality is

with the proliferation of pornography in general, it creates sexual appetites and addictions that need to be continually stimulated with going down

this rabbit hole of more and more violent or rape-centered pornography. That's the same. Let's move on. So it's all interconnected, unfortunately, because it's all,

I think, ultimately abusive. This next story is also interconnected. We have a story from Timcast.com.vin spacey acquitted of sexual assault charges in london there's a lot for a lot for me to process after what has just happened today spacey said he was found not guilty of the nine sexual assault charges filed against him in the united kingdom and the interesting thing i'm seeing from this story is that there are a lot of people, I'm seeing it split, online they're saying, we know he's guilty anyway.

And there are other people saying, this proves the Me Too moral panic was complete BS. So what do you think? Is Kevin Spacey guilty no matter what, even if the court found him not guilty? Because I think there was one report that he was witnessed being on one of the planes with Epstein or something like that. Or was he falsely accused because of Me Too woke victim culture? My first thought is that he's innocent until he's proven guilty. And if he wasn't proven guilty, he's innocent. That's just the way our legal system works. Apparently, this is in the UK.

It doesn't work like that in the UK. I don't know. I don't know enough about the accusations against him. So it's kind of hard to say. He grabbed a bunch of dudes junk. I mean, that's horrible. know enough about the um about the accusations against him so it's kind of hard to say he grabbed a bunch of dudes junk i mean that's horrible if that's if that is true should not have happened and it's wrong so i i think it's hard it's hard to kind of i i wouldn't speculate myself just because i don't i didn't i haven't studied the allegations against him i do think that just

because something doesn't turn up a guilty verdict in a court of law doesn't mean the person's automatically innocent of course they're innocent in terms of the law but that doesn't mean in society that's a good person to hang out with necessarily so i think it depends on what were the allegations and i'd have to study them to make any kind of opinion that's a good point i'm not saying he didn't do it it's different he's just legally innocent right of course and that's why the court of court the court of law matters a lot. I think some of the people who accused him died, right? I've heard that. Something like that. I do think this is part, you know, back to what you were saying, you know, I think you were kind of speaking to maybe a concern about authoritarianism.

Was that kind of where you were going with that? I'm very, very anti-government. I see. And I think there's a lot of wisdom to being wary of a government getting too big and too powerful. So I think there's a lot of wisdom to being wary of a government getting too big and too powerful. So I think there's a lot of wisdom to that. But I'm speaking more when I talk about, you know, sexual ethics, less about the government imposing exactly whether or not you make sexual mistakes. I don't think that's even possible, right? It's one thing to ban pornographers from selling porn. It's another thing to, you know, have a camera in every house to see, are you

looking at porn? That I would never say is the right thing to do that's of abuse in and of itself but i think the question that i'm more speaking to is what's the right way for us to behave in a society what's healthiest what's best what's the moral path and you know the whole kevin this whole kevin spacey story unfortunately whether or not he is the abuser you know it's inconclusive it seems from just this headline we don't know i mean the court found him i'm guilt you know not guilty i haven't studied his case that's what i'm saying he's innocent in this case obviously with the court but there is a i would just say all around society there is chaos in male female relationships i think we all agree with that people are and there was a pew research that came out saying that the large majority of people are

unhappy with dating most think dating is worse today than it's ever been. You know, people, you know, a lot of women feel objectified and then they're objectifying themselves. And only fans, a lot of men feel like there's no women to date that are good anymore. So there's total chaos. And I would argue that's because we've forgotten first principles about the moral way to treat each other, that sex belongs within marriage, that sex can bring life into the world, so you should be prepared for that and take responsibility for that. When we forget these first principles, then we open the door to all this chaos,

and I think we're living the fruit of the sexual revolution, which basically uprooted all sexual mores and said, as long as there's consent, you're good to go whatever, and I think that's brought a lot of unhappiness and brokenness today. I think that there's a lot of truth to your point there. The gender roles, the fact that men and women don't have the clear distinction

as to what is a man's role and what is a woman's role in relationships nowadays I think is something that you're seeing the effects. Like you said, you're seeing the effects in society i think you've got a lot social uh socialization was a huge element of marriage as well for women who were mostly hanging out with other women they want to have a husband they can brag about to their friends and they also want a good husband and men not only want a good wife but they want someone that they can be proud of and both the men and women are like i feel really good when people see who I'm with. Well, marriage is such a beautiful institution. And as a Catholic, it's a sacrament. You know, it's such a beautiful thing because it not only

can bring new life into the world. And I think that is the primary purpose of marriage is the ability to bring life. And some people maybe are infertile, but most people, they get that beautiful opportunity, but it also brings harmony between the sexes where we're working in this beautiful way in harmony together and we're a lot we've lost harmony in a lot of ways in our culture like psychically deadened to the harmony of nature yeah i don't know why i think it's dietary personally could be a lot of stuff social media is messing people up staring at computer screens for more than two hours a day i think if there's one thing that you could do to change that

i think getting rid of no-fault divorce would have a massive massive impact on uh on american society i think that like the knolls i think it was michael knolls that said like if like the way that him and his wife were saying there will never be a divorce because if there is a divorce whoever proposes the divorce gives up everything or something like that if the idea yeah whoever proposes the divorce should be saying look i'm giving i'll give up everything not like i want a divorce and i'm getting half of the that's the prenup it just says anybody who proposes a divorce removes all rights to any claims and any property and etc etc unless i mean that might be good abuse or like, you know,

infidelity or something. So one of the old rules of that, you could get a divorce. Like I just, I just think abolish no fault, no fault divorce. Yeah. I think that I,

I think that getting rid of no fault divorce would be, because it would be a good thing because nowadays people do look at, at marriage. Like I'm extra serious. Yeah. But, or because I think there are a lot i think that men might think like that i don't think women think of things like that i think that they want

to say they want they like the i'm married kind of like mystique that goes with it um more than men would but at the same at the same time there are plenty of people that would get married just for a tax credit after um last year after ruby wade was overturned there was all of these articles and we just did a actually a satirical video at Live Action about these articles. But they were from like Vox and these different news companies about all these people said,

my sex life is going to change forever because Roe was overturned. Now I'm going to have to be really careful about who I have sex with. Wasn't it really funny how the leftist women were like, we're going to boycott sex. And then conservatives were like, no, wait wait don't

i mean but right but it just shows like i mean first of all it is a fact that abortion is backup contraception and even the people who claim contraception stops abortion they know that and they're lying contraception only increases the abortion rate ultimately because it gives people this false sense of security that oh i'm gonna have going to have sex. You know, I'm not ready for being a parent. I'm not even married. I'm going to have sex. Oops, I get pregnant. OK, well, abortion is my backup contraception. That's the way it's operating. That's why we have twenty five hundred abortions a day in this country. I would say more important even than, you know, your case for abolishing no fault divorce. If we abolished abortion, which is killing people, then it would change sexual ethics.

It already is changing sexual ethics in places where even from the people who say, yeah, changing my sexual behavior, places where abortion is illegal. My concern, though, is that people do it in back alleys with the most gruesome methodologies. If we don't change the culture's mentality before we legislate that they can't do it anymore. We've got to do both because the law is the teacher so that you know a lot of women um and a lot of men who are pressuring for abortions if abortion is not readily accessible they they many of them don't have abortion so the law does influence your behavior we know that with seatbelts you know when there's a lot of wear a seatbelt you wear the seatbelt back in the 80s no one i think wore seatbelts because there was no law so the law is wrong i'm from new hampshire and we don't have sepo love up there but i wear

my sepo safety first yeah but but but bottom line is the law does matter but i agree with you i think you're making a good point that the culture matters a ton too and that's where you know talking about this stuff is so important and having open conversations because i think a lot of people i think ultimately we want love, you know, like sex at the end. Yes, you know, there's sexual gratification, but most people today, I think deep down people in general,

they want love. They want a loving relationship. You know, that girl of your dreams, that man of your dreams. They're not just looking for an orgasm. They're looking at the end of the day for love and people who just hook up ultimately feel empty in the end. So talking about how do we actually achieve that? Well, if you start putting sex back into marriage and

getting to know each other before sleeping together, like really get to know each other, really understand, is this someone I share values with? Would I want to raise a family with, you know, that would do so much to improve relationships. But how, what do you think about no fault divorce? Are you, would you be open to getting rid of it? You know what i'm torn because first of all, I would have to study a lot more what the You know what the nuances might be because I do think we have an epidemic of abuse today We do have a ton of abuse, but that's not nothing to do with no fault divorce If if someone's abusing their spouse, they can get a divorce. I I agree. It's not caused by no fault divorce I agree with that. No, no, no abuse is fault meaning I understand abolish no fault divorce and abuse occurs can get a divorce. I agree. It's not caused by no fault divorce. I agree with that. No, no, no. Abuse is fault. Meaning if you abolish no fault divorce and abuse occurs,

you get a divorce. It's true in theory, right? But in practice, it's very tricky because in practice, proving abuse when it's he said, she said in a court of law can be very difficult. So I'm not saying we shouldn't get rid of no fault divorce. I'm very much open to that because I do think we have a divorce problem and we're just divorcing for stupid reasons and i think that's bad i think we're we're just i want to follow my my dreams we weren't compatible anymore and then there's these beautiful children who are left in the chaos of that and then we pretend as no divorce exists there's no marriage that's kind of how i felt like i got burned in my 20s there's no commitment yeah that deathless part.

If at any point you can just sign a paper and it ceases to exist. Yeah. I mean, I agree that it's way too easy to get in a divorce. I agree with that. So I think there's maybe varying degrees of what you mean by abolishing no-fault divorce. But I agree that it's too easy to divorce and too many people do it too quickly. Don't get married. It's that simple.

Well, even more importantly than, even more importantly than don't get married if you're just going to quit on the marriage because I think that's absolutely right. I think we also should be saying, and this is very controversial because this is not the way people think today, don't have sex if you're not married. And people,

you know, a lot of people are like, well, you know, I remember telling, I think it was, I don't think you're going to win that one because people will get married just to have sex that's not a

good thing either well i that too but i think you're you're gonna find people are gonna bang you can't stop them i mean people are always gonna do a lot of things right and but i think but i think it's more i do think it's possible to have self-control i think it is i think it's possible to have a sexual attraction for someone and not hook up with them but but that's that's you right like the reason these things exist is because humans do these things that's it if it were as simple to say like people should have self-control these things wouldn't exist they'd have self-control but they don't want to they they they that that's why i brought the point about liberals ultimately just downloading their brain their brains into computers because they're chasing carnal pleasure they don't care about anything

else they don't care for the future they care about short-term gratification that's it i do think you can work on your behavior so i know a guy as an example they're not going to hold on i know a guy for example that's like it's like so like i'm i'm i'm a an alcoholic i don't drink anymore but like you you you can't get someone that's doing something whether it's detrimental to themselves or not you can't get them to do to change behavior unless they want to so like the the fundamental thing that you're talking about of oh we need to get people to change their behavior i get it but you're dealing with people that have a totally different philosophical point of view from you

and and don't even start with there are people like the this is something that i've i've had to come to terms with in the past five or ten years or so but there are people out there that whose starting principles are so different they don't even believe that you can engage in a conversation honestly with another person they believe it's all power games so the idea that you can get people hey you know you just shouldn't have sex when you're talking to people that are atheists or people that are that are agnostic and stuff i don't think that that's an actual speaking gibberish yeah it's it's it's it's it's starting from a place it's an i think what's a non-starter i guess so i talk i talk to a lot of young people, Gen Zers, who feel, and millennials, you know, over the years, back when they were younger, but who feel like if they didn't have sex, they were the weirdo.

That if they were the virgin, they were the weirdo. It's like the, you know, the 40-year-old virgin movie, you know, like the weirdo, right? Great movie. The weirdo. But I think that's the problem, right? So it's one thing where people make their own decisions at the end, right? We can't control what people do. I agree with you 100%. But I do think we can change the narrative on this stuff. I don't think that it's one thing where people make their own decisions right we can't control what people do i agree with you 100 but i do think we can change the narrative on this i don't think

that it's peer pressure i think that it comes from inside of people like i think that the urges that we have the urge to eat isn't because homie told you that steak's real good over and over and over it's because you have an urge to eat and actually i did not eat until my friend was like i'm trying i was like and that's one of the urges but if there's a lot of societal forces like you know we all love ice cream at least i'm gonna guess you all like i love it i haven't eaten in a long time okay well you but that's it you haven't eaten in a long time because you have these ideals and these this view now that maybe if i eat too much ice cream it will make me sick right and so i think and you know what's good for my body right what What is the right thing to do for my body? So similarly, I would argue, we're not talking enough about the harm of sex before outside of

marriage. We're just saying, well, everyone's going to do it anyways, give them a condom, and it's great. That's not the right approach. The right approach instead to say, we can practice discipline, we can practice self-control. People are happier, and they stay together longer when they don't have sex before marriage and don't shack up before marriage. The social data proves that. So we should be talking about that. They have commercials for medication and it's this big fat guy and he eats a big old greasy

pepperoni pizza and then goes, oh, and it's like, want to eat the food you love? And then he pops a pill and he smiles and eats the pizza again. And I'm like, stop. You're food you love? And then he pops a pill and he smiles and eats the pizza again. And I'm like, stop. You're kidding. I agree. This is America. And we have a cultural sickness. I said earlier, our culture is dead.

I agree with you on instant gratification and meaninglessness. We not good. But, you know, I do think there is a political conundrum in a group of people desperate to sterilize and and remove themselves from the gene pool who are also eating garbage celebrating having morbid uh i'm sorry morbid obesity and then you have conservatives desperately trying to keep them voting yeah and so like that's never going to resolve itself if what i'm saying about you know sex and it being designed for within marriage because sex bonds you dramatically to another person and it can create new life which are two things for marriage lifelong love and responsibility and then children right that family project together and so yeah of course if someone

disagrees it's like i disagree with this girl i'm not going to do that they're free to do what they want to do in the end right but what i'm trying to say is why don't we have more conversations about the beauty of what we're aiming for like that beautiful image of the couple that's married 50 years and they're holding hands on the park bench right and they were their first lover you know they were virgins when they got married and they committed to that i mean it takes a commitment i'm not saying it's easy exactly it's culture my question so we can do our part in creating culture and not saying like people are doomed to just hook up and sleep together and be promiscuous no one's doomed to promiscuity no one's what i'm we gotta go to super chats what

you said that people that don't and we will go to super chats really fast uh that uh people that are don't have sex before marriage tend to be happier and have a longer relationship but is it possible that happier people don't have sex before marriage it's an interesting meaning they they have other values that they are cherishing and learning about each other intellectually spiritually etc is that kind of what you're saying? It definitely could be. I think those studies measure relative happiness from point A to point B. So that is, from the point of marriage 10 years later, how would you rate your happiness here?

How would you rate your happiness here? Because happiness is always relative. We know there's less STIs, unplanned pregnancy, and we know there's less divorce with less sexual partners. One of my favorite studies, they found that a paraplegic one year after their accident and a lottery winner one year after winning rate the same levels of happiness oh my gosh so it's it's all relative to to where you are in life you know i've been to some slums in foreign countries these people are are as happy as happy as happy can be with their family so when you look at that and you look at the data people who are they've had no other sexual

partners before marriage say i'm very happy 10 years later i'm very happy people had multiple partners say i'm very happy i'm completely unhappy we got divorced but it's not just feeling whether or reporting happiness it's also behavior and it is a fact that people who cohabitate before marriage are more likely to divorce than people who don't we're going to go to super chats but one final thought is cohabitation is illegal in west virginia interesting but most people are told cohabitate is good because it'll help you get to know each other and try it on before you marry to avoid divorce that's the cultural narrative today and that's actually not true it's better to not cohabitate and practice the sexual morality to

each other to really get to know each other on a spiritual and intellectual level get to understand each other's families backgrounds and then hey is this a life project partner that i'm going to commit to for life to raise a family with yes okay now i'm going to marry and pledge myself to you publicly now we'll share each other's bodies we're going to go to super chat beautiful idea so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends and become a member by going to timcast.com and clicking join us. And we're going to have a members only show over at timcast.com at about 10 PM, where you as members can actually call into the show. If you sign up for at least

25 bucks a month, or you've been a member for at least six months, you can submit questions and even call into the show. All right. I'm not your buddy guy says, I think this aliens nonsense is twofold. A, to prevent war with China. Hey, we got a cool space tech

and B, to distract from how horrible the state is. Interesting. A military flex. All right. What do we got? Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, did you see the viral video

of our bestie turtle man Mitch McConnell glitching out? Hmm. Him, Biden, Fein see the viral video of our bestie turtle man, Mitch McConnell, glitching out? Him, Biden, Feinstein, Fetterman, and many more. We're a broken nation. Trump needs to be our last 70 plus leader. Sounds like you were sitting on the show with us tonight. Well, this was at 8 o'clock. That's why you were reading our minds, man, before we got into it.

What is this? Critic says Whitmer signed into law to ban conversion therapy today. Would love a discussion on this. Thank you for your work. Which conversion therapy? For LGBTQ youth. It's really weird that a program that you choose to do is banned.

Right. They're not mercilessly beating children over here. In the state of California, if you counsel someone with unwanted same-sex attraction and their use and you're counseling them to deal with their unwanted same-sex attraction you can get in trouble with the law that's how far gone we are because of the mythology around conversion therapies that are so evil yes have there been some evil conversion therapies yes but most

counselors who are i think seeing this the correct way understand that same-sex attraction, a lot of it is connected to traumas, issues in your past, how you developed your relationship with your mother or your father. And those things need to be explored, especially when that person is saying, what is this with me? I don't understand the way that I am. And the fact that we don't even have those conversations, we're not even allowed to have those conversations, I think is horrible. It's so, I was just interviewing a woman who was living in a lesbian relationship, like a, I think she was married or she was in a long-term relationship. And she ended up rejecting that because she said, that was what I was told was going to make me happy in the end. But at the end of the day, she said, my identity is in God. You know,

she's a Christian, but it also is realizing that I'm not designed to have sex with a woman. That's not my identity. That's not what I'm designed for. So I think we need to hear more of those voices. But again, that's like faux pas today. You're not allowed to talk about that. And I think that's a problem

and it hurts a lot of people. Vosh 1985 says, Tim, please help. Ohio Dems are trying to get no limit abortion in the state constitution. August 8th, we are having a special election

to change the bar to pass amendments from 51 to 60. Vote yes on issue one august 8th we are having a special election to change the bar to pass amendments from 51 to 60 vote yes on issue one on the 8th if you're in ohio well all right i mean there's a lot of ballot initiatives being pushed by the pro-abortion side to permit abortion through all nine months for any reason it just happened in california we passed proposition one horrible in colorado so we've got a fight we've definitely got to fight that oklahoma check out liveaction.org and we'll help get it quick for the fight oklahoma bandit and colorado has it unlimited which means these two states which share a border are going to be a potential hot

seat for serious conflict a woman in oklahoma will flee to colorado the father is going to say hey she's fleeing the state to commit a crime the state's going to have no authority to go to the state federal government won't intervene and uh i think or will intervene who knows geez yeah or or the guy will get a posse because the federal government yeah exactly if government doesn't intervene in that situation for for to stop it or to allow it someone else's it's like you can't oh gosh yeah well that's what happens when we don't protect constitutional rights for all. And just some states are doing it and other states are allowed to encroach on them.

I mean, the fact that in California, if you're conceived in California, you could be killed until, you know, weeks before, days before birth. Did you guys hear the story of the surrogate in California? I don't think so. Yeah, where the guys wanted the baby terminated. So two men who have no business trying to adopt or create a child, two men got together. They hired a surrogate. They hired an egg donor. They created these babies in vitro through IVF.

And then they implanted this little beautiful baby boy in this woman. They got a surrogate. And she gets cancer. She gets breast cancer. And she is going to need treatment. And the baby is about 24, 25 weeks old. So old enough to survive. You can survive as young as 21, 21 weeks, six days, five days, I think is the earliest

surviving little boy, little girl. And what did the dad say? The dads are not even dads. These men who purchased this life now destroy it. And she said, well, let me, let me give birth to it and let it let it be adopted i'll adopt him this little boy we don't want our dna out there one of the dudes and so what happened they delivered this beautiful little boy at 25 weeks old and left him to die ultimately and this was all done legally in the state of california where abortion is legal through all nine months

why did she let it happen she shouldn't have she's responsible too in my opinion i think surrogates i think women who uh give their bodies you know i can see the some good intentions in it for some people saying i'm trying to help this family i think it was all wrong and should all be stopped and women shouldn't be have any part in selling their wombs and then you open the door to these horrible human rights abuses like this little this little boy that was killed brought into existence and then killed all right let's read let's read some more robert romano says they need not be interstellar they could be nearby we're not alone or is it to convince russia we have invulnerable alien tech but it's fake that's what i'm saying they could be reptilians you know like this the

ship could be from the center of the earth that came out of the hole in the north pole especially now the ice caps are melting and the lizard people could be coming up that's why crashing a ship river of blood in antarctica my one of my favorite conspiracy theories is that uh in the age of dinosaurs before the uh meteor struck the earth and wiped everything out there was a species of dinosaur that was cave dwelling and uh you know got their resources and food through cave moss or something like that i don't think any of this made sense but i was reading this it's really funny and it's like they survived the uh the meteor strike and then evolved super intelligence but live underground and then i love this too because it connected it with the denver airport and they're like the

denver airport has like eight sub levels which connects to a network of underground cities inhabited by dinosaur people and i was like was that a tv has like eight sub-levels which connects to a network of underground cities inhabited by dinosaur people. And I was like, was that a TV show? Like Land of the Lost or something where they go into the earth and then they're in this alternate reality or something? Oh yeah, Journey to the Center of the Earth. It's an old Jules Verne book, which is a great book. It is a great book.

If you have not read it, read it. I love that book. It's a different story. It is a different story, yeah. I never saw Land of the Lost. And Denver airport's a terrible airport. It could be, I was just there. I'm sorry. Sorry to all the coloradans that was what i was thinking it could be within us without us it just takes forever like um a vibration in space time that's being

hyper concentrated by like spiritual force that could be what's the aliens are ghost gate says aliens are jesus and the angels the antichrist is AI, and they'll be apparent in early 2027. Jesus returns in mid-September, Yom Teruah 2030, if Jesus doesn't return to destroy the AI. I think the only way Christ will return is if it returns within you and all of us together at once. No, but I think Christians believe that he's actually coming back, right? Yeah, he is. He is coming back right yeah he is um he is coming back i think the alien stuff in some to some degree is a big distraction to the frankenstein style experiments we're doing on human beings in laboratories not

just in places like china but in the united states they're probably putting them in craft i mean who knows if that what babasar saw wasn't it wasn't a chimera is all the experimentation we're doing on these little tiny babies we're bringing into existence just to experiment on them and kill them. It is sick. And I think no one's talking about it. There's very few headlines about it, right? It's not making your Twitter feed most of the time. Would you endorse going to war with China to stop China from doing experiments like that?

It's an interesting question. I don't think so, no. Because China's gonna i think that i think that the the moral um problem of just going to war with the country and all of the the evils associated with war you know there's a lot of evils happening in a lot of countries right but we don't go invade them and well some people say we do we do that to some degree in some countries right um and there's a lot of debate about that is that right that we do that but i would say generally speaking um we should first fix our own house and we're doing evil stuff in the united states it's not just happening in china you know our

abortion rate is one of the highest in the world 2500 children are killed every day here we're experimenting them and on them in our labs we're creating them like the little boy in california and then killing them at 25 weeks old born alive left to die because he did he wasn't wanted by his his dad you know the whole thing is is sick so i would say let's address that and then we can worry about china noah sanders says tim if you have too many chickens you should hold a livestock auction for your elite members get rid of chickens make some money and content and have a community building event all in one that's actually a really good idea. That's a great episode of Cass Castle.

Exactly. If we can legally do it. We have like Ian is basically auctioning off the citizens. How fast can you talk, Ian? I need a gavel. No, no, no. Ian loves those things. You just double the speed over and over again.

And a few of the crew will go into Chicken City and negotiate with Roberto Jr. for the sale of his prisoners. And then he, you know, goes and sells them. Tim Cass negotiating with terrorists. Ian's like, you guys have a boatload of excess eggs upstairs. Or downstairs.

We have like two or three hundred. What do you do with all of those eggs? I'm supposed to be eating six in the morning lately with this protein buff, but it's just a lot. How many eggs do you eat a day i don't eat that many okay who eats them because there's like they were like people

are eating them but we have 30 30 cartons of eggs just sitting there yeah they're gonna go bad if they don't get eaten but they're good for a long time they last a long a couple weeks to a month maybe reasonably but you know wash them they go bad faster yeah you don't wash them but uh we make stuff maybe we'll just have a big frittata thing on Friday or something. That'd be good. No, we should do it tomorrow because Friday is sushi day. I like that it's a frittata and not an omelet. I like that.

Or we could do like a quiche. Why don't we do like a massive quiche? Delicious. Like mushrooms in one area of the quiche, green pepper in another area. Then you can have them like overlapping like concentric circles. We can, on the table. We just make a big thing make a big mound of flour, and you make a hole, and we put all the eggs in it,

and then we make pasta. You had me till flour. That sounds good. Actually, I do need to eat more flour now, so that could be cool. I don't know if I need it, but it's good carbs. Yeah, but we got too many eggs, but actually it would be a good idea because we have too many chickens.

We have too many. They make more of themselves. Listen, what you could do is you could give the eggs away. We could. We could ship the eggs to people who want to incubate them and then have their own chicken city strain. But, you know, we got a bunch of just random backyard chickens and they're all hooking up and, you know, mutating and stuff. Doing weird chicken things. Yeah.

Donate an egg drive. You can donate them. A lot of people would love some farm fresh eggs from Tim's special Chicken City. We'll go somewhere and we'll just set up a little stage or whatever.

I'm going to practice the fast talking. Hey, we got a thing. We're going to get this. I'm going to get 25 bucks. That would be the best. Okay, I'll do it. I would love to hear

Ian doing the... Chicken auction. Yeah. I would love it. We're working on the Casper commercials, I'll do it. I would love to hear Ian doing the... Chicken auction? Yeah. I would love it. We're working on the Casper commercials I'm really excited for because Roberto Jr.

is going to be in it. Who is Roberto Jr.? He's the rooster. He's the son of the original rooster, Roberto. He's the son of Roberto, obviously.

Right. So do the hens have names too or just Roberto? Oh, they do. Yeah, Dorothy. Yeah, well, the original ones, I know all their names, but then there's a whole bunch

more. They all have names. Do you remember all of your chickens' names, Tim? I did not name them. I named the original seven. The original six, actually. Do guests get to name a chicken? No, the Chicken City audience named them.

Oh, okay. So they just culturally decide and there's a wiki for it there's a wiki a chicken city wiki where people will talk about the lore of the city and like uh what happened with roberto roberto uh uh was was sent to the penal colony at cocktown for sexual assault i think yeah he ripped her back up pretty bad man yeah he was he was he was so he was the girls too hard and so he got shipped away and then roberto jr roberto jr is super chill he's very nice i like him so roberto was from a farm and so he doesn't like people you know he's okay but he's kicked me a couple times and roberto jr was

hatched right in front of me and my girlfriend allison and so he's super chill and likes people he's like you can walk up he'll just look at you and then I'll go by. It's awesome. Yes, it is. He's right outside my window. Let's read Super Jets. Yes, it is awesome. My pet chicken when I was a little girl

died a very traumatic death. So I have a soft spot for chicken. I love him. All right. Legama says, aliens are real. Biden's pyramid ship is on the way.

When it arrives, he will convene a press conference. His eyes will shine bright and his voice will get demonic. His gibberish will turn out to be go old. He will shout that a kef kef Kara in the camera and launch his death gliders at Mar-a-Lago. It turns out all the things he was saying were actually secret codes being sent to the alien planet. The aliens are going to land, and he's going to look at them, and they're going to be like,

they're going to say, and then we're going to be like, what, what, what? And then they're going to explain that. Your true form was showing near the end of your journey. Those are the three phrases that must be uttered to summon the aliens to Earth. That's funny. So he's cracking, his human visage

is cracking, and his alien language is coming out? Well, no, it's like, that's his mission. They're like, you have to say this code word and then once all three code words are admitted in this order, you're signaling the invasion.

Oh, okay. He can't just do it all at once because it would be too weird. Yeah. If he said, true non-anishabeta pressure, badikaf, karen, exonorescent,

people would be like, whoa, what was that? Yeah, the aliens are a time different. But he does one mutterance and then another and here and there and people are just like ah silly joe gibbon again they were like first plagiarize your official presidential campaign to acknowledge that you are on the mission so we did that in 1988 kurtalinga says tim tim tim you kind of dropped the ball by not calling your pumpkin spice brew hocus pocus with a ghost kitty on the label but that's like a halloween thing right so we're doing an espresso

espresso roast called focus with mr bocus and then mr bocus's pumpkin spice experience was just because it's a funny name but we're gonna have year-round pumpkin spice i don't know if that ruins it for people i like it yeah it does make me sad when pumpkin spice leaves the market. It's only here for like two months. Why? It's a supply and demand thing. They want to make it special. But it would be special all day long.

It would be special all year long to me anyways. Bad Guacamole says, In my opinion, here's a real-life example of possible Nephilim DNA. Search Ursula and Sabina Erickson, Madness in the Fast Lane. It's very hard to look at these ladies as human after watching. I don't know about all that. You know, I think I was saying Porphyria or whatever. It's just like

this affliction and that's where the vampire myth comes from. They saw a guy who was like, you know, bony and he had like his gums were receding and they were like, it's a vampire and it's just like some poor dude who's got a genetic disorder. That's what I'm talking about you know yep yep bing bong hell says disappointed by tim's lack knowledge of the history of the u.s gov cover-up of ufos going back to the 70s watch the phenomenon if you want to know more x operation blue book

balmstrom a air force base i'm fighting a seizure do it will not be done people will clip it uh dude i don't believe the alien stuff it's just you know what happened with roswell something they were working on crashed and they were like we can't let them figure out what it is just say it's aliens and then they were like oh no now they think there's aliens. Say it's not aliens. What are you doing? And something like that. That sounds reasonable to me. I think that we are. I do think that it is possible to have there to be aliens.

And I don't think that contradicts in any way being Catholic or being Christian. Demons. Yeah. Well, even if there are actual like another life form, another creature that was created on another planet. And it's not included in the genesis story i think that doesn't mean the genesis story isn't true and that everything we believe to do is in true yeah god's side what i'm saying is you can be a christian and believe in aliens that's what i'm saying i believe that it's possible that they exist but i i agree with you i'm not i don't really buy it i think it's a there's plenty of stuff to worry about already here i like that in american dad they did an episode where you know

people are being uh raptured or whatever. And the alien, what Roger, he's like, he's like, I want to go. And then Jesus is like, one of my dad's side projects. But it's like the aliens aren't welcome in God's kingdom because they're just like not part of it. God created man in his image. That's like our dogs. Also like bipedal, symmetrical kind of thing. Like two of you ever.

So maybe there are other creatures on earth. But do dogs go to heaven? Well, it's talking about the, it is the body matters a lot, but it's the soul too. So our ability to love, our ability to reason, our mind, our soul is what is God-like about us. Do dogs go to heaven? I don't, they could. I have no problem with the dog going to heaven. I'm not like a huge dog person, but, oh, Seamus says they says they don't i mean i think there could be dogs in heaven no shamus

said they all go to hell and they i'm kidding how could you they'll burn why is he is shamus a cat person or something no i'm kidding okay he just no he said he said shamus is a spoon person yeah but uh he said uh i don't want to speak on behalf of him, but I'm pretty sure he says animals don't go to heaven. You know, it's interesting. I think that heaven is, you know, you're the beatific vision, so you're in this perfect communion with God who loves you and you love God

and you're just glorifying him in this perfection for eternity. I also think that God knows how to make good things for humans. We're still human in heaven, right? It's not like we change our nature. We're still human. And so I would argue that it is possible that everything we enjoy on earth,

like food or our loving relationship with our cat or dog, we're going to have perfection in heaven. So will there be some experience of that in heaven? Maybe. I mean, we have the ultimate, which is God, and we're totally satisfied with God. But is an aspect of that what we enjoy in animals and in food and all these other things, I just I'm just saying it's going to be perfect in heaven and amazing and blow your mind. So it kind of one says it doesn't matter. Right. But if it makes you feel better, I would say, yeah, I think whatever that joy you're experiencing on Earth, you're going to experience it like 10 X, a thousand beyond even what you can

imagine X in heaven. What if when you die, you know, like all of a sudden, it's just like pitch black, and then like a thing appears in front of you, and it says like, congratulations on completing life. Would you like to end game or new game plus? And then when you select new game plus, you're like, you're born again, but you remember everything, and you have all of your knowledge, but

you're like a newborn baby. Dang, that'd be awesome. New game plus. I got a feeling that your electromagnetic field, your human dynamo, is where your spirit is stored. And when you die, it goes out into the atmosphere. That's kind of like purgatory. And if you're just obsessed with earth and you can't let go,

you stay and you become a demon and you're in hell. But if you let yourself go, you go into the sun and become one with it. And that's where heaven exists, at least locally. Then maybe the galactic core, yeah. You can at some point go to a greater heaven. There was like a book about that, where it was like, there are gods

and our God is within the sun and heaven was within the sun. But that also means that every other star was a different kind of like deity or power. What's always comforted me about heaven is, you know, in my faith is that everything, because there's sometimes I think, and there's a kind of a cultural imagination

about heaven that is boring, you know, like the angel with the harp or something. I don't know if you guys have ever run into run into that but or it's like weird or something but like the god who created all the good things of earth created the perfection of heaven and himself you know god and create himself he is you know forever always has been but god is perfect and communion with god will be just mind-blowingly amazingly amazing and so you kind of don't have to worry about it right because it's going to be amazing but i think sometimes we doubt that because we can't imagine how amazing it's going to be but

we just have to trust and life can be so good sometimes i understand why people don't want to let go let's read some more we got um acadia says louisiana made a new law called covenant marriage it's only between a man and a woman there are extra steps but it's what marriage is supposed to be only dissolved under certain circumstances. Supermarriage! I called for a supermarriage. Yep. On this show, I said,

you guys can keep your no-fault divorce, but we'll just create something called supermarriage, which is effectively marriage without no-fault divorce. You can get married in the Catholic Church.

That's supermarriage. You can always choose or not to. No divorce for that. No one forced you to get married. If you get married in the Catholic Church, it is what they're describing as supermarriage. Because no no you're not allowed to ever divorce you can get a legal divorce for separation if there's like abuse or something but if it was

an actual marriage not if there's no annulment meaning annulment is when it wasn't a marriage and you thought it was but the person was lying to you or there's some other extreme circumstance but once married always married all right triton 54 says the hunter court drama is much more nefarious hunter's attorney jessica bengals hunter's attorney contacted the court pretending to represent the house ways and means committee in order to get motions removed from the docket i heard that isn't that crazy yeah yeah it's some dark stuff how did jacob says i don't know if hunter is the diversion for the aliens or vice versa but we are definitely part of a psyop one way or the other. Aliens are diversion for Hunter.

It's all a diversion for the biggest issues of the day, which are not that. Regrowing the coral reefs. Yeah, dude. You hear that the water in Florida was over 100 degrees. Yeah, it's like a hot tub just on the beach. John Bartholomew says, Tim, my firstborn son is five days old and is enjoying his first TimCast IRL tonight. Got to get him young.

You know, got to hook him young. Thank you for all you do to shift the culture of our country in a direction that gives me hope for my son. Thank you very much. Good job being born, man. Nice work, dude. Good job, yeah. That's a hard job.

That's tough. Gravity is annoying at most. For little guys. You're going to learn to walk. Nice work, dude. Good job, yeah. That's a hard job. That's tough. Gravity is annoying at most. For little guys. You're going to learn to walk. It'll be awesome. Jenna Mind Trick says, Ian, I've heard you many times say, I'm not sure if it's a human in regard to abortion.

My question would be, what other species than a human have women ever give birth to? Using deductive logic, what WTF else could it be? Well, that's the chimera we talked about. Maybe the chat came in early. A human's eat. but no woman has ever given birth to a chimera so that's that's arguably not true the the the potential what are you defining that to be actually because we so the the legend goes that the soviets okay so and there's there's a reason to believe it may be true the soviets were conducting experiments where they were trying to create human chimp

hybrids the issue is that you can't take male sperm and put it into a female chimp because a female chimp is too small it would have to be chimp sperm in a female human who's larger and can actually birth the baby and many people call it a conspiracy theory whatever you want i would lean towards these countries are running black operations genetic experiments on humans the nazis were doing crazy stuff the japanese were doing crazy stuff they would take a person put their arm into freezing into like a freezing sub-zero temperatures and then once it froze shatter it to see what would happen so they're doing stuff like that we know about why wouldn't would they not try and create so the thing about a human

chimp hybrid is that humans and chimps share almost all of their dna like a ridiculous like 99.4 or something so when we hybridize say like a horse and a donkey is that what it is a horse and donkey makes a mule or whatever yes they we can make hybrids between like ligers and tyons so humans and chimps theoretically have enough dna where it's not the most advanced genetic engineering to try and create this it's just got to be a human woman carrying it so so it there's no i don't think it happened there's no evidence that it's been successfully done but if it were successfully done to your point tim it would be wrong and it should be illegal to kill or harm in any way that chimera it's a hypothetical hybrid of chimps and humans. They say serious attempts to create a hybrid were made by the Soviet biologist Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov in the 1920s

and possibly by researchers in China in the 1960s, though neither succeeded. I kind of feel like there's no reason for them not to have continued. They share 95% of dna sequence and 99 of coding dna sequence there you go there it is hybridization between chimps and bonobos has already been documented but here's the thing we should not be permitting experimentation on new human embryos or creating new human embryos in ivfp tree dishes and to then oh edit or do whatever to those things happen in china and in the soviet union so again i know it happens in other countries i'm talking about our country because

for all the experimentation you're talking about tim like we're doing experimentation here and it's funded by the nih what do you think about like crisper i don't know how much time we don't have much time to get into it maybe we talk about on the after show like the idea of genetic editing to give people better eyesight or something yeah i think it's very ethically fraught we got to go to the members only we'll talk about. We'll talk about it there. We're going to go late, so sorry. But if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,

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