Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #829 Biden DIRECTLY Implicated By Devon Archer, Dems PANIC Over Scandal w/Liam Cosgrove

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Liam Cosgrove to discuss the bombshell testimony of Devon Archer accusing Joe Biden of direct involvement in the Ukraine scandal, Establishment Media spinning the fact that Joe Biden was on the phone with Hunter Biden during the Ukraine scandal, The Daily Beast trashing Joe Rogan for his comments about January 6th, & a famous director saying he regrets voting for Biden. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thank you. Hunter Biden and executives from Burisma called D.C. to get this prosecutor fired because they were investigating their company. So there it is laid out for you. Devin Archer also testified that Joe Biden was on the phone with Hunter and his business associates. CNN, of course, is trying to defend this thing. It was just the illusion of access. Despite the fact 10 percent was reserved for the big guy. That's the biggest news today, but we also have a lot of other crazy story, which is probably very big as well. Moscow hit

by drone strikes. The photos and videos are shocking. And now you've got Oliver Stone saying he regrets voting for Biden because Biden may be starting World War III. And then on top of that, I'm throwing this in for good measure. There's a ridiculous article about a UFO nearly starting World War III by like taking control of missiles. But you know how much we love our stupid distractions. And now we've got the story of a journalist who was in Ukraine, was arrested and just recently got out and is on the run in a long Twitter thread describing how he was tortured. This is a crazy story. We have to get into all of these details, my friends, but before we do, of course, head over to castbrew.com and buy our coffee.

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channel share the show with your friends joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Liam Cosgrove. Thank you for having me, guys. I'm excited to be on, long-time listener. Yeah, so if you probably don't know me because I don't have a huge following, but I go to the State Department, I go to the Pentagon, I'm a reporter for the Gray Zone, and I ask them questions and I try to do the job of a journalist which is hold uh the powerful accountable and um you know not many people in those briefing rooms seem to be doing that but uh yeah thanks for having me excited to be here right now we also got phil labonte hello everybody my name is phil labonte i'm the lead singer of all that remains i'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary i'm ian crossland

what's happening everybody i just drank uh 1300 calorie shake in like 15 minutes that was pretty intense never did that before building that muscle i gained 12 pounds in the last two weeks i think 10 of them are permanent the other two might be water weight we'll find out i weigh 142 or for the show none of them are permanent keep it up you gotta keep eating said you gained 12 pounds you weigh 142 started at 129 i'm 142 right now wow i actually started at 127 because i'd cut weight for the music video for the for the scene where i'm like really emaciated so i went from 127 to 143 good job right now it's gonna be like five more weeks and ian's gonna be jacked that's that's that's the plan you might to slow down, though, because 12 in one week? Yeah, it was five pounds on Friday night and then five pounds on Saturday.

Jesus. Because I ate like three days worth of food. Yeah, but that's probably just like you put food in your stomach and then weighed yourself. Oh, okay. What happened was I worked out all week, but I ate 1,800 calories. And then on the weekend, I just loaded calories. What you wanted. Like ate three times as much as normal, and then I put weekend i just loaded calories what you wanted three times

as much as normal and then i put on 10 is that good like you felt fine yeah i felt pretty good you should you should weigh yourself at the same time every day like in the morning like after you go to the bathroom so that way you're kind of like in the same state like empty as empty of a stomach as you can get and do that like for a week or two and then you get a really good idea i gotta actually weigh as opposed to like varying because of water i got a smart watch you should use oh yeah yeah it's over there it's uh then you can track your health and fitness stuff okay it'll show you like your heart rate and everything you can monitor it we'll get it after the show okay cool just just realize right now but uh we also got surge here pressing button yeah how much

creatine you taking man because that'll be about about 10 milligrams a day okay well i know it's not a ton but yeah it's like it's like two two segments of five milligrams i think that's the the dose right now okay you're taking the testosterone like rfk no no i have not and that's interesting i don't know if i'm gonna go that far yeah yeah it's all good man is he not is he not on testosterone am i off there he is definitely on i thought okay yeah yeah okay okay i'm nervous about i thought i heard about testosterone because i've heard that once you start down you've got to keep doing it if you stop that it can mess you up so i don't want to start on something that i can't stop okay i mean you're gonna stop making testosterone eventually anyways yeah but what you do is uh more well my

understanding and always talk to your doctor because i'm not a nutritionist but more fat in your diet and then they have natural supplements that that like there are things you can get that aren't testosterone, but it's what your body needs to make testosterone. So that's pretty cool. Like eating eggs and stuff. Anyways, I'm sure dot com, by the way. Yeah, let's get to it. That wraps up the Ian health and fitness show.

Let's jump to the news. We got this one from Fox News. Ladies and gentlemen, this is probably the biggest bombshell out of the Devin Archer testimony. I mean, that's actually hard to say because we know that in this testimony, we learned Joe Biden was on the phone 20 plus times within these business meetings while VP. But this one is shocking. Devin Archer says Hunter Biden and Burisma execs called D.C. to get Ukrainian prosecutor

fired. Devin Archer testified for hours. Devin Archer testified Monday that. Devin Archer testified Monday that Hunter Biden and top execs called D.C. in 2015 to ask the Obama administration to help fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the firm.

A source familiar with his testimony told Fox News Digital. And they lied. But ladies and gentlemen, we got Joe Biden right here admitting to all of it. That was the assignment I got. I got all the good ones.

And so I got Ukraine. And I remember going over, convincing our team, our others to, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, and they didn't. So they said they had, they were walking out to the press conference, said, no, I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars.

They said, you have no authority. You're not the president. The president said, I said, no, I said, I'm not going to, we're not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You're not the president. The president said, I said, call him. I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion. I'm going to be leaving here. I think it was what, six hours. I look, I said, I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch. Got fired. And there it is right there shout out to dc drano for that video which has been circulating some time he reposted it today so uh that argument we heard over and over again from liberals that it was just u.s policy to fire that prosecutor and i gotta say that never that was never backed up by anything why why did the u.s want the prosecutor fired so i

argued about this like years ago whenever this came out with a kind of a mainstream liberal friend of mine and he said what you just said he was like you know the entire like everyone in in like the u.s establishment agreed that this guy had to go and this kind of debunks that it's saying barisma gave him a call and said no no so the. So the impetus came from Burisma. But this makes sense. If you look at Burisma as an arm of U.S. interests, Burisma acting as U.S. policy interests called D.C. and says,

if you want us to keep operating, this guy's got to go because he's investigating us. So simply put, you could say it was U.S. policy. There was a former CIA director on the board of Burisma, as well as the vice president's son. So, of course, it was our policy. We were running the show. But when you get to the brass tacks of it, corrupt institutions, which were enriching people's private interests, called up their buddies in D.C. or their dad and said, this guy is getting in the way to 10% for the big guy. So we've got Tony Bobulinski. This is one of the Hunter Biden associates saying outright, he's in on it. You've got the emails, 10% held by, what does it say? HB for the big guy. Is that

what it said? Was that Burisma though? Or is that the China thing? 10% for the big guy, I think was a China deal. My point specifically, though, is we can see in these business dealings, there is evidence that Joe Biden is personally benefiting. We also the text from Hunter Biden, where he said something to the effect of dad taking his salary or things like that. So he's acting as a proxy for Joe Biden while Joe Biden was in government. Joe Biden personally goes and gets the prosecutor fired, who was investigating the company where his son was getting $83,000 a month there it is Devin Archer testified before Congress and and the huge thing so but also real quick like if you just watch that clip and just like like listen to Joe Biden's tone in that clip like it's like like he's just like acting like he's like talking to like his nephew

he's just like like I don't know he's so brazen brazenly bragging he's just like he's like i gotta leave in about i gotta leave in about six minutes you know i got a flight to catch why don't you fire that guy he's like he sounds like a like a mafia guy who's like proud of like that's just probably it really does sound like a line written for like a mafia movie yeah right he's like listen joe if you don't fire the guy in six minutes yeah he's like talking shit just publicly that's about what trump was impeached over that speaks to the way that that politics in washington dc is handled generally though i mean or i i would believe that would lead me to believe because he does because he doesn't think it's a he doesn't think it's a big deal exactly it's no problem it's very normal for him it comes off as you know as you know

obviously this is the case yeah this is this wasn't the first time that he behaved like that or whatever so i mean it it it does speak to the the the tenor and the way business is done not just with washington but obviously internationally as well and the u.S. if the U.S. has one of the less corrupt governments on earth which I don't know for sure if it does or not but I know there are places that are a real mess but if if the U.S. does have a less corrupt government and that's the way that business is handled among you know someone that was the vice president who'd been in in dc for 45 years at that at that point or whatever then you know that just imagine the rest of the world yeah the rest of the world's a mess and you know ukraine is an absolute pigsty because everyone knows that

ukraine is is well everyone is aware of the the root the the story or narrative that ukraine is one of the more most corrupt governments in the world 100 and i and i i don't know but i would assume russia is too but like um that that's why you know it's it's so crazy that like we're involved in this war in the first place because we're talking about two very corrupt um very authoritarian which we can get into like you know pre-war zelinsky's authoritarian tendencies but um like why the u.s seems to think it needs to have a dog in this fight of like you know why do we care which corrupt uh oligarch rules over crimea or the donbass it's like we shouldn't really care they're both like horribly corrupt uh countries to begin with but what's interesting from this stuff and then there was chuck grassley on the on the senate floor uh the other day who talked about one of these, I think, Burisma associates or one of Hunter Biden's associates in Ukraine had recorded 19 phone calls, 17 with Hunter Biden, two with Joe Biden for the purpose of blackmail.

This was Chuck Grassley saying this. I don't know if he produced any like documentation for it, but you know, so, and why that's scary is like, could our president be blackmailed into supporting this war? Yes. And, and,

and the idea and, and world war three is a real risk from this war. So like the implications of like, I mean, it's, it, Russia is not viewing this as russia versus ukraine their pundits all their personalities are saying nato versus russia so they're very

much viewing this as international conflict and it's only the most naive or the most duplicitous individuals who say we are not at war with russia we absolutely are you don't get to provide weapons training military and volunteers and then be like but we have nothing to do with this war yeah no and i agree and and and it's even worse because like i i think it's still a majority we can maybe pull up the polls if they're out there but like how many americans still support um the ukraine war and i think it's a majority and obviously these people think you know we're fighting for democracy we're fighting to protect international borders but like if the truth were to come out that like now we're fighting

because like they have dirt on joe biden and the the like we're literally risking the entire world and they might have okay there's the this is gallup from one month ago 62 percent in june 2023 support ukraine reclaiming territory however it is going down slowly slowly going down i mean um yeah i mean i i i i think hopefully what would bring that bar to the left um more would be you know educating people on the real reasons we're at war and i don't know if it's because did they have blackmail on joe biden no it could just be geopolitical like fucking you know uh you know it is it is very much wanting to gain access to energy right for europe to expand the european economy and if the economy is stagnating if you can supply weapons to ukraine to damage russia's military that's good for the u.s but but i know

but yeah they say that but i don't get why that's good for the u.s but but i know but yeah they say that but i don't get why that's good for the u.s like why why is like why is that an end why is weakening russia which by the way means killing like young men on the battlefield why is that an end to the u.s and i once um i was on i don't know if we published this but i was on um capitol hill and i asked this to dan crenshaw he was like hey we're you know we're weakening a strategic adversary. And I was like, well, why are they a strategic adversary? And he was just like, oh, you're pro-Russia. I'll see you later. And it's like, no, I'm just like,

I don't want to blow up the world. Because they're a BRICS nation. They want to get off the U.S. petrodollar. They want to create their own rival currency. They're starting to and the U.S. views that as a big threat. Russia is the easier target out of the bunch. China is too large. So in the meantime,o expands its presence in europe gains more control bolsters the european economy to compete with the chinese economic bloc and russia being the easier target goes after them

right now but the funny thing is they they didn't used to be in bricks and they didn't used to be trying to get another currency like why were they our strategic enemy ever i don't understand after the soviets fell it was like oh let's go back in time my friend yeah let's go to 1993 what the hell's going on we're supposed to yeah you keep going back it's never just because the soviet union collapsed doesn't mean that these sentiments and the people there their worlds changed for a lot of people the world did change don't get me wrong but for powerful individuals political leaders and the oligarchs who are seizing control, they were born and bred of this world, East versus West. So you can go all the way back and keep going back in time to find where the dawn of conflict emerges, but U.S. interests competing with foreign interests, and the U.S. has been in many ways

losing this in a lot of ways. And I think a lot it has to do with there there there is the fact that being a constitutional republic weakens us in terms of uh executive action the chinese communist party snaps their fingers and they get things done they build a bridge overnight why because if you don't do it you get locked in the gulag or they're you know but then they also build a bunch of empty apartment buildings that have to get torn down because, you know, central planning is, you know, it's inefficient or it's, you know, it can you can you're at the you're at the. Sure. But they're talking about ghost cities. There's a combination of the two they have.

So this is this is an interesting merger between the total communist authoritarianism and having a little bit of low tier low level economic activity be allowed so this results in some kind of capitalistic growth but you have got to be a member of the party the party's got to be in fascism your company yeah essentially right yep so the u.s i would say you know my view of joe biden or any of these presidents save trump in my lifetime it's the intelligence agencies that are running everything. And I think it's fairly obvious. And the way we've always described it, and even for Barack Obama, is that he's like, when I get in office, we're going to bring our troops back. And then as soon as he gets in office, he sits down and they go, Mr. President.

And they slap the documents in front of him and say, this is why you'll do as you're told. And then anybody who says otherwise, they just slide a picture of JFK right up and say, once again, this is why you'll do as you're told and then anybody who says otherwise they just slide a picture of jfk right up and say once again this is why you'll do what you're told so i do think that i think the intelligence agencies behind the scenes first most of what we think we know is probably wrong the news we're reading is probably wrong come on we know they lie all the time and we're still we're still trying to base our perception on this war off of all of this stuff and what Joe Biden is doing. I do think the people at the CIA and the FBI want the U.S. to win and would prefer it if all of our lives were better.

However, in terms of conflict, we are just assets on a battlefield. We are economic numbers. So freedom doesn't matter. Our rights doesn't matter. The Constitution doesn't matter. All that matters is the global sphere of influence for U.S. and Western interests. But even if you're at the CIA and you think in these terms and you want to maintain the petrodollar, which makes sense why you want to maintain the petrodollar. But the risks, they don't think of the risks of like like why is the dome boss worth risking nuclear war

um if you're the cia um like it it could give russia carte blanche access to the black sea through crimea they already have it but if they well if they really solidify it that means that they're going to make turkey become their ally and that's a threat that turkey will leave nato because turkey is the exit from the black sea into the mediterranean and you can't get out without turkey if turkey got out of nato yeah it would be it would be that would be the end of everything if turkey leaves nato and joins bricks i mean we were basically bifurcated the earth into two hemispheres why do you say that well because turkey control the bosphorus yeah what they control the bosphorus they control the strait into the mediterranean from the black sea i mean that's tons of economic activity for europe that will be can that is under control of turkey so long as turkey is working

with nato we have that advantage yeah but i mean i don't feel just having just having turkey not in nato doesn't mean that turkey automatically like will, will shut off the canal. No, no, no. I mean, if Turkey sides with BRICS, if Turkey does say to the West, you are now on the, let's just say, the not nice end of the stick, that's going to put more pressure on us. The issue with, you know, when I look at Ukraine, we got to go back and the place I typically start, and it goes back much further than this, obviously, is the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, Syria. The U.S. and our interests in the Middle East obviously were a conflict between the U.S. and Russia. I mean, even going back to the Mujahideen,

the support of these groups so that they could fight the Soviets, et cetera, we are still in there for very similar reasons. Why is it that Syria falls into civil war? How convenient for the United States when we were facing obstruction for from Bashar al-Assad? All of a sudden, the country is collapsing.

Well, we want to build a pipeline. Pipeline would have gone to Europe, offset Russia's gas monopoly and would have helped bolster energy, energy and expansion, economic expansion in Europe. All of this stuff ties together. You then it's no surprise that there's a counterterrorism official from the CIA, a director who is now on the board of Burisma, an energy company. Hunter Biden joins that board. It's U.S. interest to stop the prosecutor investigating it. This is all about, I think they're looking at hard energy expansion economic numbers. They're saying we want X amount of growth

over this many years. They're looking at it like Russia is growing at this pace. China's growing at this pace. They're working together. If we do not have X amount of growth, they take over, Thucydides is trapped, World War III, we lose, Chinese Communist Party wins. Okay, but like, so if you take a step back, even if you're still at the CIA looking through their perspective, and you take a step back and you look at like, how things have gone over the last like 20 years, with all of these of these you know regime change efforts we we undergo we spend like trillions of dollars and we just completely destroy these countries that we were hoping to kind of control and then you look at afghanistan like we we pull out anyways so it's

like but you're missing the bigger picture we don't have a good track record do we do we destroy the countries that agree to our control uh no the countries that bend the knee and kiss the pinky ring we never hear about invasions or coup d'etat or anything like that because they did as they were told it's the countries that defy the u.s and not just the u.s but western powers that face these you know we came we saw he died is that what that's that's how hillary clinton described it about qaddafi in Libya. You know, so a reason will be made, and the people who don't fall in line do as they're told.

Well, so what I was going to say is, like, if, because you kind of said the goal is, like, control and money, which I guess are two different things, but if, like, if they just wanted money, if, like, the people at these defense companies and, you know, CIA CIA, wherever want money, it's like, why don't they just, I mean, like we spent, we spent, well, I thought you said that, but. Economic expansion, right? They want to see the sphere of influence of Western nations expand and maintain a unipolar domination in the planet, on the planet, on Earth. China is pushing that boundary.

And we are we are now very likely, I think it's safe to say we are a multipolar world, meaning we now have the rise of multiple superpowers, which brings the very real risk of mass conflict and war. After World War Two, we saw the rise of the liberal economic order. The intention was to prevent this from happening again. You know, they tried it with the rise of the liberal economic order the intention was to prevent this from happening again you know they tried it with the league of nations united nations they want well but okay so on that point like they want they created it to prevent this from happening again but now the evidence seems overwhelming that like it's the driving force

for why it's happening again always and so it's there's no there's no there's no simple answer to this exercise is has been like difficult for me because my brain does not work i imagine like any of these people at the cia but like why they need to dominate and influence the entire world when it's like look at like look at this amazing land mass we have over here on like you know the western hemisphere it's like why can't we just like enjoy this and live on our farm and like take it easy especially these guys at the top who have all the control in the world. And I agree, but they've made the argument very clear. China will not stop.

They're trying to take the South China Sea. They're building military bases on these fake islands. Yeah, but they're not going to come here. They're not going to come here. But what about Alaska? What about the Aleutians? It's a question of will they come here or will they expand their influence into Africa, which they're already doing, Southica it's like the belt and road initiative and then all of a sudden in the u.s

we are constrained and can't get access to certain resources that is their view and they say it plainly i'm not saying they're right but they've made their argument but also belt and road is like like military bases like belt and road is them like you know getting countries in debt which you can say is like the u.s western model right but but i mean like they're building infrastructure or they're like influencing them to like you know on on international to vote with them on international organizations but like they only have like um i think they only have like two or three foreign military bases and they're like artificial islands near china we have military bases all over that's what i'm saying is like why are we so worried

about china when they don't yet have all these foreign military bases that's why because they're expanding it's kind of like but but not militarily but they are and you're saying it's a small number but that doesn't matter what matters is they are that's it the intelligence agencies we have troops in taiwan we have that's not an argument it's not an argument but it's like why do you think they're doing it maybe because maybe we could talk to them and say, hey, guys, don't build this base on this artificial island. We'll pull our troops out of Taiwan. You know what I mean?

Negotiations could happen to prevent it as opposed to like warmongering. Right, right, right, but you're not making an argument. It's simple. There's a unipolar power structure where the West controls things through economics and through conflict and those that don't fall in line. Hillary Clinton, we came, we saw he died.

That's what happens. China starts expanding. Russia teams up with them. This is a threat. It doesn't matter if they've it doesn't matter if the guy across the street threw one rock at you. The moment he does, you call the police and say, I will not I will not stand for this. Now, you can argue that the guy with the rock threw to the guy who's got 17 tanks and a bunch of RPGs lined up. But either way, they're going to be like, oh, he's throwing rocks at us.

Right. China is expanding in certain areas. Their influence is growing. Their economy is growing. It is a threat to the U.S. We are now facing a multipolar world. And these I view it like after World War Two, you get the liberal economic order. You get these powerful elites who are like, we are going to use this position to control everything and prevent this from happening. They pass it down to their kids, the next generation, who start to slowly screw things up, who pass it down to their kids who have no idea what the hell they're doing and have fumbled the whole thing.

And now we are facing a massive crisis. But these people inherited this. They don't know better. So they're just thinking, we better fight this war to prevent it from happening somewhere else. And you're like, OK, well, look, there's two outcomes. I suppose the parentry is we do nothing. The city's trap dictates the likelihood of World War Three is tremendous.

And then war happens or we just start it all now. Push back and hope that holding back Russia from the Donbass and putting pressure on China stops the expansion. And we don't end up in a Thucydides trap. Yeah, I, you know, I don't I don't I don't see. Well, in Ukraine specifically, like, do you see Russia? Well, certainly not Crimea. I think there's no shot. Russia leaves Crimeaa there's

two million russian civilians who live there and they and and it's it's basically been russia uh we had i think it was dave smith but they i think it was dave smith who mentioned russia didn't invade and take over crimea yeah they stepped out the door of the military base said hi guys i think like three people died or something but it's not that the point is that they already had a military presence there i know so they didn't they it was that they walked out of the military base and said how's it going everybody we're and i think they've actually had that base for hundreds of years that's right um but so it like and and then hope i just hope there's people in the u.s who like understand that and are like oh yeah we're just waiting to play that card of like nobody knows any of this

stuff of well what do you mean you you go talk to the average person average liberal look man no no i'm talking about people in the top brass of the oh right right yeah the the challenge with those who support all this is that you go and ask any liberal who's waving a ukrainian flag and they won't be able to tell you the first thing they can't point to ukraine on the map yeah i mean that that yeah that i mean that was the whole dan crenshaw thing of just saying i'm pro-russia when i tried to you know ask him you know it's just like it was like the war with iraq and invasion of afghanistan it was like are you with the terrorists are you with us it's like dude you want to invade a foreign country and kill their leader i got questions

and they're like well then you support the terrorists no shut up yeah but that's what they go for because the average person doesn't care doesn't want to care and doesn't want to pay attention they want to they want to play attention. They want to play their games. They want to watch their shows. They want to see Taylor Swift. They don't want to deal with this stuff. Yeah. I don't blame them.

And I will give a shout out to Dave Smith. That bar that was, Serge pulled up earlier with the poll, going slowly to the left. I think Dave Smith has been doing a fantastic job of describing the history of this war to people and disseminating it. So shout out to him. Let's jump to this next story we got from the Post Millennial. I love this. We have testimony that Joe Biden is on the phone with Hunter Biden and his associates at the same time.

We have testimony from one of Hunter's associates that Joe Biden is getting kickbacks. And then CNN says Hunter Biden was selling the illusion of access because Joe was on the phone, but Joe wasn't talking shop. Does he need to? Seriously, if they're sharing bank accounts, sharing email addresses, if Joe Biden is taking his son's salary, it's like the mafia, it's like the guy's negotiating a deal with the other guy and he's like, listen,

Don says he wants you to do this or else. And then they're like, oh, I'm not going to do anything. And then all of a sudden, Don walks in the front and goes, how's these guys doing? And they're like, oh, everything's good, man. We're doing everything you ask. And they run away. See, they're trying to make this claim that makes literally no sense.

The moment you put Joe Biden on the phone, it's a whip crack. The vice president is in the room. Well, don't you forget it. So I hear your point and I agree with it. But also, that claim is just not true. I mean, this was in the New York Post the other week of when apparently there's a text from one of the Burisma executives and he says to Hunter, can you ring your dad? And then Hunter placed him on speakerphone and uh sorry this was not a text this must have been a call um he but hunter goes on speakerphone

with joe biden and and says these guys quote need our support so i mean he wasn't just selling the illusion of access he was putting these guys on speakerphone with his dad and and telling his dad we need to help them so where's that from that's from new york post yes i think it's fair to say that cnn is desperately lying and what is the cnn article look like i'm actually curious to see how they frame that other than post millennial i think this is it former business partner says hunter biden sold illusion of access to joe biden former business former business partner says hunter biden sold illusion of access to joe biden former business partner says source says that is so ridiculous that's hilarious former business partner we got a source saying a former yeah a couple degrees of separation i'm surprised they published that plausible deniability right there yeah we know um it is

like tim as you were doing your mafia metaphor it's like if the if the mob member was like hey we got a job for you but before you go you're gonna take my son along like how is that not mafia interference with the kid the guy's son the mob member's son he's bringing his son along for the game now it's like this crackhead is all of a sudden invited along the son son of the boss goes to uh like a bunch of guys who are delivery guys or drivers or meals or whatever. And he's like, I want you guys to move all this product. My dad wants it done. They go, your dad doesn't want this done.

This is your job. You're trying to upstage. He gets on the phone and says, hey, dad, how you doing? And then his dad's like, everything's going good, son? He's like, yeah, I'm here with the boys. They're saying everything's good, right, boys? So he didn't talk shop, but come on. We know exactly what that was.

Well, but I, yeah, I agree. Like, even if you're doing that, it's still fucked up. But like, that isn't, that isn't even what Biden was doing. Like, Joe is clearly more involved than that. What's like the dirtiest stuff he was doing? Do you have the data? On the quotes or like any, any specific, the specific, like the dirtiest stuff he was doing do you have the data on on the quotes or like any any specific the specific like the three most corrupt things that he did that we have like documented proof of or extreme amounts of evidence well i guess i don't know like you know policy

like which policies arose from it i just mean like the text um i don't know if there's anything that originates actually from joe but just like the text that tim referenced earlier of hunter saying um you know you know pops he's like he's talking to his nephew or his daughter or something he's like pops takes 50 of all my shit i'm not going to do that to you when you get older so i mean like why would hunter lie about that you know what i mean like that so it's in private texts yeah exactly and so that's one example um i guess we don't have here from new y Post how Joe responded to these guys need our help. But oh, but there is a timeline. So this was like, it was like, it was like a matter of weeks later that he gave that speech we played and he got the guy fired.

So, yeah, I mean, the timeline lines up as well. Like, Dad, these guys need our support. A couple weeks go by. Prosecutors fired. I love that they're like joe was on the phone with hunter's associates a couple dozen times for no reason yeah he didn't talk shop it's like wait two dozen times on the phone with these guys what were they talking about going golfing where's that what joe was or hunter was joe was on the phone on speakerphone over 20 times with hunter biden's

associates that's what devin archer testified. Oh, wow. So the question is, like, for what reason? It's like... It's not a social call. Yeah, exactly. Which is another reason that CNN article is ridiculous. Like, did they include that fact in there? Like, it was kind of just the illusion, but also they were on the phone two dozen times.

I really do feel like unless the Democrats decide that they're going to replace Joe Biden for running for president as the candidate, I don't think that there's anything that're going to replace joe biden for uh as running for president as the candidate i don't think that there's anything that's going to happen no matter what the evidence comes out no matter who says anything because i think merrick garland is is incredibly corrupt i don't think that he's gonna i think that he's he's gonna protect the bidens as much as possible and and it's it sucks to be so blackpilled but really i mean the evidence is overwhelming that that it's worth having hearings about and and you know you can barely get and democrats

don't even want to you know hear hear the the evidence so i i just i hate the fact that i'm blackpill did you did you say at the beginning though that you think they are going to replace joe bynas no no I said unless they're going to. Unless they start to really wind up Gavin Newsom or whatever. I love that Harry Sisson guy because he's like 20, but he's got the education of a third grader. And I'm not saying to be mean. I'm saying quite literally he tweeted out that, was it Alito? Supreme Court said that Congress has no authority to regulate

them and he was shocked by it and i'm like bro we learned that in like second grade it's called the branches of government they they're they're all equal branches of government they have no power over each other they have degrees of power over each other for checks and balances that's about it but he really doesn't get it and then then he recently posted a photo. I bring him up because he posted a photo of Joe Biden looking horrifying. And he was like, he looks so cool. It's like, dude, how much did he know? I got to be honest. If you're a Gen Z dude and you're following that guy and you agree that flabby skipping leg day Joe Biden is cool looking?

Oh, I'm sorry, man. The Harry Sisson thing is interesting. It's him and his buddy. They just kind of appeared out of nowhere. And they're like these young, kind of good looking young guys. And they do the frenetic thing where they do this a lot. Like the Dash Dobrovsky thing. But it caught on, I guess.

It's like a meme. Yeah. I was just trying to find the clip now. There's a hilarious one where he's just frantically like, he doesn't take a breath and and it's he's just talking but it's hilarious but what i think your point about those guys show the your point i'd love that come on that'd be fun scared but your point about those guys coming out of nowhere i think like i think 100 um those guys would not have a huge following if like the right didn't just make fun of them all the time i think that's main those are that they're all their followers are the right making

fun of them so but on purpose that's why i see them is because they're doing that on purpose the right doesn't want to prop up the most articulate liberal speaker they want to prop up the worst and most pathetic liberal speaker so then they can knock them down but blow them you know straw man yeah basically be like oh look at this guy and his arguments yeah you know if there's someone who's very calm and makes a well-reasoned liberal argument nobody's gonna be outraged they might respond and be like i think you're wrong about this and they'll send a link and then that no one cares right but you find someone who is genuinely ignorant of the facts but screaming

about nonsense and you're just like this is a spectacle yeah this is but do you think harry sisson is doing that on purpose i think he's getting paid to do it yeah i i think they're paid by who he works for some he will he works for some talent agency not directly he works for some talent agency that gets funding from certain democratic groups so i've seen reporting okay and he gets paid to post. I mean, that's my assumption based on the news report. I could be wrong, but it's clout building. Okay. Everybody who does this, who generates followers, is going to make money from doing it.

Okay, but I thought you were saying, like, he's intentionally being stupid and ignorant because he knows it'll rile up the conservatives. That's true, too. But so then why would the DNC pay to, like, embarrass themselves with a guy like Harry Sissons? They were smart. But I think you're thinking're thinking too absolutely right there are people who post things intentionally stupid because it generates attention i post troll posts and then the media takes them serious i once said impeach the queen and i had a whole article written about tim pool

journalist calls for the impeachment of queen elizabeth before she passed and i'm just like what it was a joke i can't believe they didn't impeach her yeah but they're like each the queen posthumously no she was alive at the time posthumously i don't even remember why i said to impeach her like she had something had happened i guess she was not woke enough i don't have no idea you know but yeah a lot of these people on social media, they just say utter nonsense to get followers. That's a good observation. You were saying that people will retweet or repost the cringe stuff because it's so bad.

You're like, hey, everyone, I want you to see how horrible this is so you know what you're up against. But I see it and it's like, I just feel like you're that guy talking to me when you repost him. So I have to unfollow people when they repost trash content to make fun of it i don't i don't want that trash content in my life i understand the mentality of like yeah and then you're also and then you're also like you're you're convincing yourself of like a caricature of the left that isn't true and then you're not prepared like if you want to debate the left you're not really prepared on what they actually believe and then like also in like your everyday life you might know like like most of my friends and family members

are like left wing. And so if like, if I look at Harry Sisson and I'm like, oh, but then if I get in a real conversation with like my relatives, I'm going to be like unprepared. I'm going to be like,

oh, they're actually a lot smarter. And like, I should, I should, you know, I don't, I would be obviously better than everyone.

I certainly think Harry Sisson is a caricature of liberals who is like, it's shot content. But his understanding of reality is about on par with the average liberal voter. They could not point to Ukraine on a map. And there's varying degrees of this. But I got to tell you, man, I agree with that. The key moment, a good example, is when we had Hunter Avalon on this show. And I said in one example that Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, not getting a billion dollars. And he smugly said that never happened.

And then I played the video and he was like, uh, whoops. It's like, dude, I don't I don't I don't care for debate, like in this idea that we're going to stand on the stage and hit a buzzer and be like, well, an argument and do different debate tactics that's stupid i care about here are the things that i think here's why i think them if you are wrong i will say you're wrong i'll pull something up if it turns out i'm wrong i'll say i was wrong about that right i agree but that's that is a debate that's like the point of my point is i have no concern or fear of debating a liberal on any of these issues at all and i don't think i know everything about these issues i in fact think i'm mostly wrong because you're open to discovering the truth the deep state the intelligence agencies are not giving us the true and correct information about what's going on but what i can say is i've read substantially more about all of this than any of

you and i do believe if the average if you took an sd and neural linked it, all the basic news coverage of Ukraine and Joe Biden into the head of the average liberal, they'd vote Donald Trump instantly. It's just that they don't know. They don't want to know. They watch CNN and that's about it. Or MSNBC. And they believe people like Rachel Maddow, who's nearly in tears when Donald Trump isn't indicted as a Russian spy. They may not vote Trump, but they'll definitely not vote Biden. They vote Trump.

I am kind of that guy. I don't immediately go to the opposite. We're on about that. We're RFK. If you downloaded all of the information on the Biden family, Ukraine and the war, the Obama administration, just all the news articles. Hillary, all her emails. Yeah, into their brains. They would just be like, now I understand why everyone's voting Trump.

Full red pill. Full red pill. But if you go to a Trump supporter and you were to download into their brains all of the news articles about Donald Trump, the thing is, most Trump supporters would be like, these are contradictions. This is the point. So my favorite two stories from Politico, one, that the Democrats were, that Ukraine said that there were Democrats trying to interfere in the 2016 election or something to that effect. Then you have a several years later, Politico reporting once again, that in fact, that was

Russian disinformation, but never retracting or correcting their own reporting saying otherwise. How can Politico run two stories, one making a claim and one saying that claim was Russian disinformation without correcting? Because it's garbage nonsense. Now, the fact that I know those two articles exists gives me some keen insight into what's really going on in the world, especially considering who the journalist was who wrote the second article. You put those articles into the minds of the average person, and they're going to be like, something's not right here.

Trump supporters already know the news contradicts itself and lies all the time. Many of these liberals just believe Rachel Maddow, and they think Fox News is lying. Granted, not a big fan of Sean Hannity, you know, but Tucker Carlson was pretty good. But they just read garbage from like the daily beast and then believe things that aren't true i remember when i got red pilled it was the most depressing probably the most depressing experience i've ever had in my

life it was like near suicidal like the way i gave up on life when i was like this really is all fake all not all but like this is whole american dream thing is like fed to me on the backs of slaves, really. Let me pull up this story from the Daily Beast. This is a good example. Joe Rogan says it's a fact that January 6th was a false flag, cites Ray Epps. Now that's a misleading headline if I've ever seen one, but of course that's the Daily Beast.

If you are someone who only consumes garbage nonsense like the Daily Beast, you might think Joe Rogan's this crazy Alex Jones guy. However, fortunately for Joe Rogan, he's like one of the most famous people on the planet. And many of his fans know who he really is. These smears, they don't go very far. But let me read this for you. They say wildly popular podcaster Joe Rogan once again pushed baseless, the baseless conspiracy

theory. I love that. That the January 6th Capitol insurrection was a false flag orchestrated by the federal government, adding that pro-Trump rioter, Ray Epps, clearly instigated the attack. Now, hold on there a minute. Ray Epps is on camera the night before and the day of telling people to go to the Capitol and go in the building. He's then seen whispering in someone's ear, and he's on the front line as the people to the Capitol and go in the building. He's then seen whispering in

someone's ear and he's on the front line as the people breach the Capitol grounds. Curious. They didn't go after him. The feds didn't go after him. He was protected by the media, defended by the media. And even now they're trying to obfuscate what he did. It's fascinating, isn't it? Earlier this month, Epps sued Fox News for defaming him. This we know. And in that lawsuit, we're hearing that Epps may actually be facing criminal charges. They're going to mention that Rogan's got a contract with Spotify, blah, blah, blah. Rogan said the intelligence community had a vested interest in this going sideways, adding that if somebody wanted to disparage a political party or to maybe have some sort of justification for getting some influential person like Trump offline that would be the way they would do it and joe rogan is completely correct he was talking to jim gaffigan who did

not know anything about this i gotta tell you when i listen to joe rogan talk to jim gaffigan you know i'm a political guy like i sit here i read all this news i am just like shaking wanting to talk to these guys you should get Gaffigan on the show for sure. And be like, ask me any question and I will answer it. And I will show you all the sources. I will pull them up one at a time. And you can, by all means,

not believe the Guardian or NPR, the New York Times. Just, you got to have some standard. Do you believe this or not? Do you believe Politico or not? Okay, well, that's what we're basing this off of. But Jim doesn't know anything. he doesn't know anything about it so what did joe rogan really say he said they never went after ray epps he's seen on camera instigating

this stuff makes you wonder and now we know what he said was a fact is that there were guys there who are uh intelligence assets encouraging people or i shouldn't say i should say some kind of government agent or law enforcement this is not controversial this is confirmed yeah they're they're admitted to doing it to going let's go let's go hey go go go and pushing people towards the capital oh is that admitted that agents pushed people towards the capital and there's there's body camera footage of people associated with law enforcement i'd have to pull this stuff up i'll be very careful here because i want to make sure we're getting it right but they're saying things like go go go when questioned i think it was uh the fbi said we cannot like answer were there people involved at all yeah yeah they pled the fifth

basically and i i did see that clip and that and and joe i joe rogan cited apps and he cited you know the fbi director pleading the fifth um but yeah it was like early on there was like very early on after jan 6 there was a new york times article and it was like federal agent you know describes his experience on jan 6 so um it's long been acknowledged that there were federal agents in jan 6 i think the strongest uh argument for false flag that was the pipe bomb which apparently they have footage of like the guy who put it there and they apparently know where he lives too they've they've like i forget where i heard this but they they know his address and yet they have not um prosecuted him or you

know explained what he whether it was a pipe bomb or not you know what i mean they they it doesn't look like they've investigated what that was. Well, that's scandalous. Cause that guy's like, yeah, Thomas Massey has been posting about this and that is, that is kind of piece of, in my opinion, that's like the most compelling evidence.

Because the bombs that were placed around the Capitol heightened the entire situation to such a level that you might be able to justify bringing in federal troops or putting detaining people without, without charge or trial. Great point. Jim Gaffigan makes a good question though. He's like, why didn't Trump call anybody in?

Why didn't Trump just say, get law enforcement down there right now? I think it's fair to say that Trump was bumbling quite a bit. I don't think Trump had any intention on anyone going into the Capitol. I think he genuinely had no idea what was going on. And I don't mean that he didn't know there were people storming the Capitol on one side and going into another. I'm saying he did not comprehend the situation. Well, you've read, though, that apparently after his speech, he told secret service to

drive him to the Capitol and they said, no, we're taking you. Pretty sure that was a fake story. Oh, was that a fake story? Because they claimed that Trump like attacked the driver. Well, yeah, it was exaggerated that he attacked the driver. But what I, what I guard, what I gathered from that was like, if Trump did actually want to go to the Capitol and talk to these guys, it could have been been a totally different outcome if trump was there and he was like hey guys we want to do this peacefully as he was saying in his speech when they were breaching the capitol

grounds oh okay right but either way if he had gotten there he could you know he could have ended it um and so it's weird that secret service would say no we're not letting you go and it's weird that trump couldn't override that with just a direct order also. So, you know. Yeah, I got personal criticisms. I mean, I wasn't the president. President had a hell of a job during COVID, man. But the way he didn't send in federal troops during the riots of 2020. President did a hell of a job during COVID? Well, no.

You think Operation Warp Speed was good? No, I don't think he did a good job. I mean, the president has a hell of a job during something like that is what I mean. So I can't talk too much shit about him and be like like well if i was there i would have this and that because like backseat driving hindsight's 2020 but he didn't send in the troops day one of the 2020 insurrections whatever the hell these street riots that broke out after george floyd death i would told tim the next day like where the fucking national guard what are we waiting for this is going to spread out of control this is like a fire burning right now. And it did. Two days, three days

later, two days later, the whole city is starting to get burned down. And I'm like, where's the President of the United States, the Chief of our Military Command? I think he was so afraid of being called a fascist he didn't want to invoke, he didn't want to bring the troops in. So where were the troops on January 6th? I want to make sure we get this in the segment.

This is an article from WLOS.com an fbi informant embedded within the proud boys on january 6 identified in the record only by the name aaron testified for the defense the witness said he was not aware of any plans by the proud boys to invade the u.s capital building so that's one simple example we then have this this is a filing uh this is a defense writing the doj recently disclosed involvement of undercover officers informants from other agencies aside from the fbi and dc metro police at least 40 undercover informants so that was one of the big stories there's there was another uh there were another couple videos that came out and uh you guys should definitely fact check me on this one

it is hard to do because most of the corporate press ignores this stuff but there were a few videos from law enforcement who were shouting things like, I think the video in question was, let's go, let's go, keep going, keep going, or something like that. Well, that's fascinating because if that's true, then that's kind of the crux of the whole false flag claim.

So if that's true, then Joe Rogan was in fact correct. Well, no, no. Joe Rogan asked whether or not the possibility of a false flag could be and whether it made sense and it certainly does make sense they used the insurrection thing for two years just screaming non-stop over and over again on tv that it was an insurrection and now the speculation is they'll try to use this to get trump removed from the ballot so certainly there was a benefit to all of this. They deleted

Trump's tweets calling for peace. They deleted Trump's Facebook posts where he was saying I don't think they suspended him. Trump had said things like everybody go home. We respect law enforcement. They shuffled that away and then claimed he was calling for violence. You know,

if you're a commander and your capital is under siege by its own civilians and they're starting a riot or they're starting a commander and you've got a your capital is under siege by its own civilians like and they're starting a riot or they're starting a thing like you've got a few options you know you can bring out the guns and try and turn them down that you can ask beg them to stop which doesn't really work against large crowds or you can insert

active duty officers into the crowd to break it up agents to break it up from inside that's probably the smartest method Joe Rogan points out the WTO protests in Seattle. They call it the Battle for Seattle. They had agent provocateurs there. We've seen videos. There's a lot of speculation all the time

about agent provocateurs. There was one story in Canada where protesters had military-style boots, started acting violently. The left has argued this for a long time. They conveniently forget the possibility when it comes to the right. Why? They're happy it happened. You had the Gravel Institute tweeting in support of January 6, except for the fact that it was right wing. They actually tweeted that it

was good what happened. It was just bad that it was conservatives or right wingers that were doing it. They like it. When it comes to agent provocateurs, the left will tell you to your face the government stages fake activists to incite violence for the purpose of discrediting protest movements. And then when the right is protesting, the left says, I have no idea what you're talking about. And here you are. Yeah, you can make the same argument for election fraud as well. Yep. Yeah, we need people to stand up for the rights of other, the people you don't agree with.

Like if you see, maybe it's a big ask, but if you see your political opponents under duress and they're being treated poorly or illegally, you've got to stand up for those people. Yeah, you need to stand on principle as opposed to a certain degree. There is no history, there's no evidence of that happening from really from either side, but definitely from the Democrats for the past 15, 20 years. And that's why I say to a certain degree, because perhaps when the country is unified, but there's partisan bickering, you get angry when a when the DOJ is weaponized against a political group. You say, hey, guys, you can't do that. Unfortunately, right now, we're in something substantially deeper than that. And now the question is, when they're trying to destroy you, do you provide them with your support? Yes, first time in my life I've ever been in a situation

like where they were in the 50s where they were really afraid the communists were going to take over the country. So they were like, was it J. Edgar Hoover's blacklist or whatever? He'd like start blacklisting all these people that had communist ties and people were losing their jobs and their careers and like maybe if they hadn't done that

we would have become a communist nation so i don't know do you know that uh communists are excluded from the civil rights act yeah uh this yeah i think i didn't know that this is still true to this day and i got questions about the legal uh merits of it's in the law and it's not i do not believe it's been adjudicated so i wonder what would happen if you were just like no communists allowed this is just this is like i i don't have any kind of evidence this is just my my impression but the in the 50s and the red scare and stuff and i really need to go and do more reading about like what it was actually like um but it really seemed like the people that

were really opposed to communism in the in the 50s and 60s it seemed like they really understood that the left that the international left has a fundamental different uh understanding of the world i was listening to uh this book called uh this audio book called explaining post-modernism by stephen hicks and one of the things that he talks about is the way that the way that the left doesn't have the same kind of foundation that the right does and it's about you know liberalism versus authoritarianism and you're not going to be able to find common ground with people that have a fundamental different understanding of what the truth is or what reality is and and if there is no truth then it's fine to use ad hominems and call everybody nazis and stuff and we're seeing the

effects of that now it's it's been 20 or 30 years the the 30 or 40 years now actually the left has called everybody on the right a nazi and every president's a nazi and always goes to the absolute worst where you know there's a lot of people in america now that aren't unfortunately that are not so afraid of the word of being called a racist anymore you know they're just like well you call everybody that you call everybody nazi you call everybody so it doesn't matter and that's something that we have to deal with and i don't i don't see how we can deal with with the the struggles that we're having as a country if if we can't even agree on what the philosophy that the united states is is founded on but hold on but hold on because what you you're giving credit to the people in the 1950s and you're kind of

saying well they were actually good intention and they were actually against communist and pro-freedom i'm only saying that maybe they understood better than the average person now i'm not trying to give them an undue credit but then you talk about the difference in ideology which is one is uh collectivism one is individualism and i agree i'm a big individualist but when you go on this like red scare campaign you're immediately dissolving one of the crucial things of individualism which is like one of the one is until proven guilty yes one of the the flaws or one of the crucial things of individualism, which is like one of the one is until proven guilty. One of the flaws or one of the greatest challenges that liberalism has is liberalism accepts the arguments of opposing viewpoints as if they are coming

from liberals, right? So you, if you enter the disagreement expecting your, your, the person you're having a debate with to be honest, but they are not going to be honest. You can never come out.

You can never have a fair exchange. So that's one of the things that liberals have to figure out how to deal with. And that's why liberals and that's why the communists say liberals always choose fascists over communists because the only way that you can fight authoritarians is with authoritarianism right but then you become like the monster you're trying to fight like it's what tim said with like the original uh purpose of like these international bodies and then the grandchildren just forget what the purpose was like look at what the fbi is now look at what the cia is now yeah like how could you say that they were always that way yeah and

if you look at j edgar hoover they were always that way yeah and if you look at j edgar hoover they were always that way so i i just don't think there's any credence to this argument of like we need to embrace authoritarianism to get rid of no i'm not i didn't say that we need to embrace i didn't say we need to embrace it but i'm i'm saying that the current problem that we have is that liberalism doesn't have a it doesn't have a mechanism to deal with dishonesty. But it does, though. And it's only supporting liberalism and not supporting other ideologies. Fair enough.

But the problem that we're experiencing now is authoritarians lie to liberals, shit libs, bad liberals. They lie to shit libs and shit libs believe them because what the what the authoritarians are telling the liberals sounds good but the tool then is is education and it's very difficult obviously especially with echo chambers but to me that's the only viable tool and that was another jefferson quote something about educating the masses is like how to secure liberty a lot of that's with tone because the data itself doesn't convince people tone yeah yeah and another shout out to dave smith because i think he does that extremely well let's uh yeah he is so good at that let's jump to this war story super apolitical love loves him he's so funny

let's jump to the story from npr we love npr guys a drone attack on moscow briefly shut one of its airports and injured one take a look at this photo there was a video i played earlier we don't have it pulled up right now where it's a guy driving down the highway and he's just filming this destruction on this building. And it is terrifying stuff. They say Russian authorities say three Ukrainian drones attacked Moscow in the early hours on Sunday, injuring one person and prompting a temporary closure for traffic of one of the one of four airports around the Russian capital. It was the fourth such attempt at a strike on the capital region this month. Now, I saw some people on Twitter claim this was a secret government office that was protected by Russian security forces.

Perhaps that makes sense. I don't know why else they would strike the target. They're going to go after military targets. But this is now escalation of warfare into civilian capitals, into Moscow. This is. I think there's we're starting to see a real case for this expanding well beyond just a Ukrainian conflict. It's already now in Russia. And where else could it go next?

As is spreading. There was a news report that a Russian strike was 600 feet from the Romanian border, which could theoretically launch this thing just dramatically out of control. Is Romania a NATO country? I don't know about Romania. I will say, I was at State Department

today, and Serge, it's not on Grayzone yet, but you can maybe bring it up on the State Department's YouTube channel. I asked him about this drone strike and Tim, to your point of light. Romania is. As of tomorrow, Romania is in NATO. No, as of 2004. August 1st

2023? Are you sure? It says 2004 post Cold War enlargement. It says alphabetical list of NATO member countries and it says Romania 2004. Maybe this is a typo. That's weird. Oh no, no, it's saying that as of tomorrow, Romania is of NATO member countries, and it says Romania 2004. Maybe this is a typo. That's weird. Oh, no, no. It's saying that as of tomorrow, Romania is a NATO member, but it has been since 04. Sorry to interrupt, Liam.

No worries. So, yeah, I asked the State Department about this, and to your point of, like, did Ukraine do this? I mean, it was fairly obvious. So, like, an hour after this drone blows up, Zelensky made a statement and he says, quote, gradually the war is returning to the territory of Russia, to its symbolic centers and military bases. And this is an inevitable, natural and absolutely fair process. Zelensky said that, and he's explicitly said, we're targeting symbolic centers, which to me, I could only mean, you know, areas where civilians gather so it sounds

like we're targeting civilians and i asked the state department this and um he basically said well i don't know if that's what symbolic centers means and then he brushed it off and wouldn't let me get a follow-up in but um to me when you make a speech like that an hour after the explosion happens that kind of looks like you're taking credit for it um and so it's extremely scary i mean and it's crazy that the u.s i mean we keep like u.s officials keep saying like well we don't support attack we don't support attacks on russia's border well it's like well you keep funding them and arming them to do it so at what point are you gonna like you know enforce your um lack of support for attacking russia's border and um you know it's just scary of support for attacking Russia's border.

And, you know, it's just scary. I mean, this war keeps escalating every day. We've got U.S. civilians on the ground in Ukraine, and the U.S. providing weapons, which end up in the hands of many of these people. Like, Russia knows full well what's going on. When it comes to this strike on Russian targets, Russia's not going, oh, those Ukrainians are at it again. They're saying, NATO just attacked our capital so this is this seems like the only path the only path forward is going

to be escalation could be a false flag could be russian drones doing it doesn't matter either way the same thing happens if it's a false flag then russia wants to escalate it's even worse but if it was a false flag why would zielinski come out an hour later and basically be like hey we're going after symbolic centers i guess um you'd be like if you were the commander and then some random elements within your country bombed some random elements within the enemy country you'd be like see there you go american greatness let me bring you back to the era of piracy where there would be privateers and corsairs who would receive letters of mark from their government to disrupt the enemy's supply lines and then let's say it was the english and the french the french would capture a pirate ship running black sails or whatever a black flag and then these guys are

clearly british they'd go to the crown and say we know that you are ransacking our trade lines how dare you we would never condone piracy oh i'm offended that's what they do so what's going on right now it is the most annoying thing ever when these officers are like the u.s is not involved in war those are volunteers i'm like shut up it's effectively the same thing no one's stupid like you can believe whatever you want to believe so that you can sleep at night. But I assure you, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Millie, whoever it may be, is under no illusion that we are not involved in this. They know exactly what they're funding. And Russia is the exact same. In the Vietnam War, it was the Americans versus the Russians, basically.

Right. Versus the Russians and the Chinese, maybe. But somehow we just never came to blows with Russia. We never even talked about it as if it was against Russia. We did. We called it proxy war. Yeah, they were funding the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese. U.S. Middle Eastern involvement was proxy war against very much so Russia and to a certain degree Chinese interests.

Funding the Mujahideen. Yeah, that was a proxy war against the Soviets. And that's what Syria is, our support for the rebel groups. Syria would not side with us because they're allied with russia so of course anyone in government a lot aligned with russia we opposed how convenient i'm like did isis was there were they funded by the russians cia yeah like you would think if the russians were really our enemies they would have been funding isis but i cannot remember that happening this is why they were happy when trump decimated ISIS.

When Trump started taking them out, Putin's like, this is good. Yeah. It was good for both. And then they claimed that the reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine was because Donald Trump was catering to Putin's interests. And I'm like, yeah. Destroying ISIS? Not getting us involved in wars? Wow, it's almost like he was doing what the American people actually wanted. he armed ukraine with a bunch of weapons too so that's true which is obviously not in russia's interest um what do you say there was also a tweet on this explosion

this account tweets it out and they're like oh my god drones hitting moscow how unfortunate and then like a little sunglasses emoji meaning like you know we like this and then the general michael hayden who's the former director of the cia and, tweets out, tweets out, oh, it's an act of God. Like about this explosion. There's like, you can watch the video. There's like this woman who's screaming. She's in terror. It's like a horrible video to watch.

And the former director of the CIA and NSA is like celebrating this on Twitter. It is, it is insane. Of course. I don't, it's like that shark attack where there was the shark attack and people were like happy because some russian dude got eaten by a shark oh my gosh who has nothing to do with the war it's like um people who don't realize that it's the government's perpetrating these wars and like you know most of these soldiers are conscripted anyways it's like you should be mad at the governments even if you um you know believe uh the whole narrative around ukraine you should be mad at Putin and the government.

You don't celebrate civilians getting bombed in Moscow. Don't celebrate that. What do you think is a just solution to the war? I mean, I think the war could have been avoided in the first place by giving up or holding referendums in which by the way zielinski campaigned on this he campaigned on holding referendums in the donbass in crimea because there was like a decade-long civil war in the donbass and of course russia basically controls crimea and and this civil war was awful and so and poroshenko's um by the end of like by zielinski when he was campaigning in 2019 poroshenko's approval rating was so low because of this war.

It was like people didn't, people didn't want to fight this war. And that's why also the Azov Battalion, which is kind of the neo-Nazi sect, grew, you know, so much stronger because people didn't, the only people who wanted to fight were those guys. But so Zelensky campaigns and he's like, I'm going to hold referendums in the Donbass. I'm going to let them decide whether they want autonomy, whether they want to secede or be in Ukraine. And he wins overwhelmingly. He wins like 75 percent of the vote. And in the east, everyone voted for him in the general election.

Then he gets in and he doesn't do it. He seemed open to it. You can actually look. There's like old there's like Biden 2021 White House statements where Biden is like saying like no no crimea is ukraine we're gonna stick to this and zielinski earlier had been like well i'm still open to referendums there but then biden makes gets involved and it's like no no crimea is ukraine um boris johnson was sent in and crushed a piece yeah that was after the war but so in terms of like a a peace agreement could have been just hold referendums in the donbass in. Crimea overwhelmingly, even by like U.S. government conducted polls in 2014, Crimea overwhelmingly wants to join Russia. The Donbas, it's not clear whether they want to join or secede or want more like just governing autonomy from Kiev.

Just hold those referendums and see what happens. That was Putin's demand before he invaded. And you could have just granted that, and people say, like, well, you can't do that, because then he'll just be even closer, and he'll keep going. But it's like, take the chance on it, then, at least. Or, like, negotiate some, I don't know, negotiate something better.

But, like, the idea that this counterfactual is like, well, Putin would have gone even further. It's like, well, guess what? Like, hundreds of thousands have died ukraine is destroyed and millions are now refugees because like of that counterfactual that you're so sure of it's like we could have held these referendums and we and we potentially could have avoided the entire war and we still could we still could do that now i think if donald trump gets elected the day they call it for trump the hour the minute the war stops yeah i mean i think he would probably do maybe some form of what i just said i don't know what he's i just think

the moment they say in the winter of the 2024 president election is projected to be donald trump russia immediately says ceasefire and zelinsky to be like finally the dogs are off my back i can do what i want with my country like if maybe i think some of the dogs on his back are kind of the far right guys within his own uh within his own government but putin stops right away because he wants more leverage so putin is probably going to be saying trump's going to come in he's going to end this we're not going to get everything we want we'll get enough of what we want but if we're still fighting it's not we'll gain more leverage by stopping the fighting right now then and then you know uh brushing up to to's ego and being like, we knew that as soon as you got in, you were going to be reasonable and help us end this conflict.

So we pulled our troops back. Trump's going to be like, absolutely. Here's what I expect. It's over. 100 percent. I mean, I think that's true of not only Trump, but I think that's true of RFK and Vivek as well. Agreed. But I also think like Trump winning is just a massive fantasy.

I mean, I think we I can't recite like the whole history. I know I know a couple of interesting facts about the whole JFK assassination. And to me, it's overwhelming that the CIA killed him. So, you know, Donald Trump won in 2016. Well, he won. And then, you know, the intelligence agencies, well, I guess Hillary and her team fabricated the dossier. And then this kind of they tied stones to Trump's feet. Exactly.

And but but if you if you think do you really think he's going to be allowed in with like the stated goal of like getting revenge at the deep state? Or do you think they might just pull the trigger at some point? Well, I don't know about any of that. I rfk's talked about the risk you know based on his family history so perhaps and there's been other people who have speculated horrifying things may happen but uh look if if i believe that if donald trump is harmed this country implodes overnight i mean it it's it's chaos beyond chaos if something happens to trump in that in that capacity not an option well i think what's terrifying about that you take a

look left would believe it the left would be like yeah people hate trump no no but that's why that's why you're so correct is like the left would believe it they'd be like yeah everyone hates trump of course someone would assassinate but the right is going to be like no he was yeah exactly and then it doesn't matter right that's going to cause chaos so no, he was, yeah, exactly. And then it doesn't matter. Right. That's going to cause chaos. So you have to ask yourself why the why the United States has not, say, assassinated Julian Assange when Hillary Clinton

reported said, can we just drone this guy? And they're like, yeah, he's in London, right? Why? Certain people they got no problem with. Maybe it's a 16 year old

American citizen. Barack Obama's like, we're going to blow him up because his dad's a terrorist. So they killed Abdul Rahman al-Awlaki in a civilian restaurant in a country we're not at war with. gonna blow him up, because his dad's a terrorist. So they killed Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki in a civilian restaurant in a country we're not at war with. Trump killed his son

though, too. Trump killed... Or his daughter. His daughter. Now, see... Hypothetically? That is a claim made by the family, whereas the drone strike on a civilian restaurant is confirmed by the U.S. government. And another thing, it's one thing

to catch around in a gunfight, and it's another thing to have someone shoot a missile at him. But, investigate Trump. Yeah, fine, I don't care. If this is collateral damage and an American girl died, he's responsible for that. Yeah. Presidents shouldn't be allowed to get away with this stuff, especially when

we're not at war with this country. But, fair point, right. You know, Barack Obama was like, blow him up. Whoops. Yeah, I mean, Barack Obama had his actual kill list, like list of people. But they claimed they were targeting a different guy and he was an act. It was a whoops, we got the wrong guy. But, you know.

Convenient, whoops. But yeah, yeah, you know. So I don't, I think if something happens to Donald Trump, this country gets ripped apart in two seconds. And the reason why they don't go after people like Julian Assange is because they don't want to make martyrs. You will make that man immortal and only in his best features. Yeah, I feel like there'll be some behind-the-scenes shenanigans to keep him out of office before an assassination for that same reason. He's too powerful metaphorically. I agree with that.

I'm just saying if there's a chance he's going to get into office, they'll, they'll pull Clinton. What I find fascinating is that Roseanne says there's not going to be an election. And I had to ask her to clarify because Michael Malice said, of course there will be, but I think it's probably a mix of the two perspectives.

There'll be an election, but no one will care. No one will accept it no one you think 2020 was bad 2024 is going to be it's just gonna be nuts it's gonna be bad because now after 2020 you're gonna have every single trump supporter filming everything you are gonna have a hundred times as many videos coming out showing weird things that may be innocuous, maybe nothing, or maybe suspicious. And no matter who wins or who loses, the other side will refuse. We saw the Boston Globe story where powerful Democrats suggested the West Coast secede from

the union event in the event Donald Trump gets elected. That's how crazy they are. Now, what do you think happens if Trump loses again this time there's going to be people everywhere filming literally everything i thought 2020 was going to be more chaotic than it was maybe i'm wrong about 2024 but i just don't see anyone accepting the results yeah i mean you know i'll settle for making it to 2024 and as long as you know we do not blow up the world in ukraine or over Taiwan, if that ever happens. So let me let me pull up this story from the Daily Mail. Check this one out.

JFK director Oliver Stone says he made a mistake voting for Joe Biden in 2020 because he fears president will start World War Three with his support for Ukraine. There you go. He said, quote, If we don't stop this, what Biden is doing, this guy, I voted for him. I made a mistake. I was thinking he was an old man now and that he would calm down, that he would be more mellow and so forth. I didn't see that at all. I see a man who maybe is not in charge of his own administration. Who knows? It seems that he's dragging us stupidly into a confrontation with a power that is not going to give. This is their borders. This is their world. This is NATO going into Ukraine. This is their whole other story. He's right. Imagine what would happen if China went into Mexico and took large portions of its government and started putting troops and sending weapons.

The U.S. would go nuts. I just saw. No, the U.S. And we did. Because there's literally, I just saw a tweet by someone that was talking about Chinese police stations here in the U.S. Policing the Chinese people. Bio labs. Yeah, bio labs and stuff here in the U.S.

I don't think that the American people, I really think that as much as there are people that complain a lot on the Internet and stuff, I really think that Americans are way too comfortable to get really, really buck wild in some kind of revolutionary way. They'll get out in the streets and they'll throw rocks and stuff and throw Molotovs and try and get into fights with the police. But that's only the most mentally questionable or at risk, if you want to call them that um people that the average peep your average person has even the people that have it bad have it better than most humans in human history i just don't see the the revolutionary energy that that what's your point though with china you just mean like the fact that people are not angry about yeah there there's chinese you know there's there there's talking about building a chinese uh listening post in cuba there's actual chinese um i guess government police that are policing

chinese chinese uh former chinese citizens and the biolab in the u.s with covid mice and hiv and china's done the same thing in can. They violated, if the United States actually took the Monroe Doctrine seriously anymore, there would be at least some type of retaliation between all this stuff that we talked about that we've mentioned in the past five minutes or whatever, and the spy balloon that went over and stuff. I understand that most libertarians are like you know we shouldn't be looking for for problems with other countries and i agree when you got a country sending a police force into your borders and policing citizens of your your country from a foreign country i get it that

you you're anti-war libertarians but hey at some point the the the actual sovereignty of your country matters even if you have open borders well so i agree and i get like we should be moderately upset about those things but i think on this on the scale of like i agree there's no revolutionary energy but like i i'm way more concerned about like this war we're talking about what roger stone's talking about about blowing up the world like if there's a chinese police station in my local city um that is pretty weird and concerning but i'm much more concerned with like my president potentially being blackmailed by ukraine and then therefore looping me into a nuclear war that could literally kill me one day um that that's where the revolutionary energy needs to be focused and and i agree there's a lack of it. It could simply be blackmail that Hunter Biden's on the board of Burisma.

Devin Archer calls D.C. says we want the prosecutor fired. The elites in the oligarchs, the people in Ukraine know exactly what Joe Biden did. And then they call him up and say, we're going to spill the beans unless you give us what we want. Yeah, no, I I've likeamed that out in my head as well. I think it could exactly be that. And it's just crazy. And, you know, we should all come together as a country and just say, Joe, whatever they got on you, it's totally fine. We're not going to judge.

Let the blackmail come out. We'd much rather I'd much rather see a naked photo of Joe. It's not that. Well, it's going to be evidence. It's going to be felonies. Right. No, I know. It's going to be sedition.

I was going to say a naked photo of him with a kid, but just let that come out and just end the war, man. It's more important. Would you support pardoning Joe Biden? To end the war? Yeah. Of course. Or just in general.

Just even preemptively with no expectation of anything after. Would you? I don't. Just for no reason? Assuming that there's going to stuff that's going to come out later is why my reason would be. But would you do it not with any expectation or like tit for tat? Just be like... Oh, would I do it right now hoping there is blackmail and hoping the war ends?

Or yeah, or for any reason. Yes, I would. Yes. For any reason at all. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I would do it for that reason. I think that's why I talk about mass pardons. But he's asking if you would straight pardon him for no reason. Yes, I would. Yes. For any reason at all. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I would do it for that reason. But he's asking if you would straight pardon him for no reason. Well, you're not really...

I can't tell if you're saying no reason. I mean, if there's no reason... I'm not as concerned with the reason. I'm just asking if you would do it. If you would just say you're pardoned. There are reasons where I would do it, and that was one of them. But... If you have...

I think of it as like 5B chess. All these pardons that we got to do. I see no other way forward. If you have evidence of him doing wrong, no. You have a tribunal. If we know for a fact that he was engaged in illicit activities, then he is criminally charged. If you have no need to pardon him,

if you have the pardoning power, you simply just indict him. You could do that. Indict and then pardon him. Why would you pardon him? So that we don't have this tit for tat, so that then the next generation, they don't come back for you.

Hunter's sister doesn't come back with guns of blade. You don't want to just keep the cycle moving. Hunter's sister. I wouldn't be worried about that, but yeah, I agree in terms of like... I don't agree with the idea that by allowing elite criminals to get away with their crimes,

you actually stop the crime. Well, what you do want to do is expose them and make the world know what they did, but then pardon them for it. But if you expose them and the world knows what they did and then you pardon them, that is not going to disincentivize people from doing the same in the future. I don't know if anything

can disincentivize it. Yeah. All the incentives are in their favor. Guillotines. Well, that didn't work well in the french revolution because like who's in control of the guillotine like who's deciding the guy ultimately got his head cut off yeah that's right not just him but you know there is the threat of force i mean the threat of force is usually the go-to like how do you stop corrupt leaders from being corrupt if it's a dish and if it's treason there's varying degrees of punishment but i think but i think hold on i think on some level you can like it's not all it doesn't only have to be punishment and i guess

ian what you might be getting at is like you can appeal i i imagine in theory like you can appeal to the humanity of these people like i know like you know lindsey graham to me does not seem like a guy who has much humanity in him. Joe Biden. I mean, that hugely brazen, corrupt kind of that mafia display is like is awful. But like when you also listen to that clip of him, remember when that that clip of him came out of like a voicemail on Hunter's phone and he's like, son, I love you. You know, we'll get over this drug addiction or whatever. To me, that sounded i as dad who loved his son so i think i think that's naive it's naive to think like i can use i can like i can like tap into that um humanity of joe but i'm just saying it's there and he feels love for his son um but but yeah and and maybe there is some way to tap into that like i i don't know if that's what you're getting at with the pardons but um i won't solve it so i'm just saying i hope you'll buy the workshop one day and says like

god you know i do have these grandchildren and like i don't want to i don't i don't want to blow up the war what i don't want to blow up the world because i want my grandchildren to live a nice life i i hope that deep down he's thinking something like that i'm not you know i'm not going to bank on it but i'm hoping it's there that that sentiment no i think he's more thinking i will burn the world to the ground before i lose power you think biden thinks that way i think he thinks to a certain degree that way i don't think he's the most ruthless guy ever he's he's a bit of just he's just a corrupt guy but these people tend to have an attitude i should say this corrupt individuals are corrupt because their attitude is usually the whole world will burn before i lose i don't know if he's that strong of an

asshole but you've heard like the nobody fucks with a biden hot mic quote from him no when was that i i forget i think it might have been at the desantis presser he had you guys really think he thinks that much at all well that yeah i mean that's another just because he's old now doesn't mean he did not build his life and his family off of these ideas that he will take whatever he wants right this is look you wonder why it is almost every every politician is a bad person it's because good people don't have what it takes to manipulate everyone around them to gain political power right that's a good point and and and i got i i do have that naive streak in me because i got to be honest so before i was into politics like during the covet era i i barely read the news at all and

um i i like liked anthony fauci like i would watch the news and i was like you know i kind of like this guy i like his raspy voice he's kind of charismatic disavow and and recently i um read the real anthony fauci by robert f Kennedy. And it was mind-blowing to see, like when you learn about everything in that book from the whole like AIDS pandemic and how like the chemo drug that they were prescribing was basically causing AIDS or making it way worse. AZT.

AZT and him experimenting on orphans, like killing hundreds of orphan children and debilitating many more. When you realize that that guy can go on TV and like smooth talk the entire world, um, smooth talk, like it's kind of what Tim is saying.

And it's like, Jesus, like that's a level of like psychopath that I can't even imagine. Indeed. Must you think like the psychopath to defeat the psychopath? Yeah. There's one thing that I want to say is like you, you you know a lot about like forgiveness and stuff like that and and i am so like i said earlier like i'm so blackpilled about even being able to communicate with people

it's such and i maybe it just struck me that like you're you're still looking for ways to find to expect good behavior from people or to offer people the option of behaving well uh and i just don't think that they're gonna yeah you know i'm obsessed not really so ben franklin is a big inspiration and that guy always had like a twinkle in his eye and kind of a knowing smile like we already won um so he was like a diplomat to the enemy yeah ben he knew the whole time he was like the father of the rebellion the father of the united states essentially like everyone looked up to him as this old dude how do you know he had a twinkle in his eye did people write that down i i in the pictures i've seen of him and i think maybe they do the paintings he was just yeah the

paintings and the stuff he just he's so jovial and he's an inventor. He's brilliant. And he knew his morale was so high. I think he just instilled the morale of a nation with his books and his communication style. So hopefully, people can do that. We got to jump to this story. We got this Twitter thread from Gonzalo Lira. This is the guy who was arrested in Ukraine, who has just recently gotten gotten out and is tweeting that he is seeking to flee the country. He says he was being tortured in jail when he was arrested. So correct me if I'm wrong.

You know, you know a lot about this, Liam. He's an American citizen. Correct. He's an American citizen. Coach Red Pill. Yeah. Yeah. And Serge, if you bring up my pinned tweet is me asking the State department about him um and i think it was maybe

like a month ago or a couple months ago now um and yeah i mean so that was when i was at the epic times um it didn't the question didn't go over so smoothly at the epic times i don't know i don't know if i can get into that too much well let's go through this guy's twitter thread he tweets right now i'm about to i'm about to try to get out of Ukraine and seek political asylum in Hungary. And I will also add, this was from 6.23 p.m. It's currently 9.24 p.m. Eastern. I'll check his Twitter to see if he successfully crossed. He goes on to describe what happened to him.

He says he broke no laws. He was accused of breaking no laws. He was just reporting on what was going on in Ukraine, and it made Ukraine look bad. So they arrested him. He says, my indictment explicitly states that all I did was discuss publicly known facts about the war, the epitome of free speech and a democracy. But Zelensky's Ukraine is no democracy. It's a thieving, corrupt, murderous gangster regime pretending to be polite Western democracy.

He's right about that. And that's obvious because Ukraine has always been that since the fall of the Soviet Union. Once arrested, I was given documentation assuring me that I was guaranteed the right to contact my lawyers and loved ones. In fact, I was blocked from calling anyone, even my lawyers, and I was not permitted to post bail. He goes on to describe that he was tortured. And let me let me once inside. He's a prison. I was tortured in the two of the four cells I was in by the other prisoners.

Guards never beat prisoners. They outsource the torture. One prisoner actually apologized to me, telling me he had no choice. He wasn't lying, I understood. I got a cracked rib in my first cell, but it wasn't too bad. The worst stretch was my fourth cell. He was going to say that he was beaten for over 30 hours and sleep deprived. The craziest thing about this and uh this is pretty

brutal so you've been warned he says at one point two thugs held my head and used a toothpick to scratch the whites of my left eye while asking me if i could still read if i had just one not gonna lie that was unnerving he goes on to say the u.s embassy called me three times but gave me nothing but support in quotes quotes, empty bromides. The guard told me to remove my shirt. He had injury and bruising to his chest after being beaten. Let's scroll down. He goes on to mention that they found out he had money.

He wasn't poor, and they extorted about $70,000 out of him, and he's lost about $100,000. He says the conditions of his bail were that he has to wear an ankle monitor, surrender his passports and not leave the city of Kharkov, much less the country. However, after posting bail, he didn't get an ankle monitor and they returned his passports. He was going to say that he was told by one guy they were telling you to leave. And then he says he's he doesn't know. So he's going to he decided he will die trying. He rode his motorcycle across Ukraine, one thousand four hundred kilometers in two days. He said, I'm going to Hungary to ask for political asylum. When I fail to show up in court in Kharkov,

an arrest warrant will be issued, likely an international warrant. No doubt other EU countries will comply like sheep, returning me to serve five to eight years in a prison labor camp. Regardless of the fact that Kiev arrested and imprisoned me for YouTube videos, for free speech, what happened to European democratic values? Well, I'll tell you, Gonzalo, freedom, liberty in the Constitution, whatever you think you have mean nothing in warfare. They can tell you these things, but it's only when you're in a safe and secure state will they allow it. He says, I'm posting this thread just as I'm getting to the border checkpoint. I'm also posting videos on the two channels I have access to the round table and gonzalo lira again if you don't hear from me

the next 12 hours well i'm on my way to a labor camp wish me luck i'll pull up his account right now and see if there's any updates uh that was that that i believe that was the last he posted oh my god maybe maybe he has some replies and uh we don't know if he made it that was three hours ago so this is a crazy story this is insane and so this guy a little bit more about him he was born in california um he's a u.s citizen he's like a dual citizenship in in chilean and a lot of people use that to discredit him but he was born in the u.s he is a u.s citizen he was in the past like a contributor for business insider zero hedge um he i i've talked to some people like who i trust and they

kind of they kind of have like a bad opinion of him they're like oh he's kind of a wacko but at the end of the day he was um he is a u.s citizen and all he was doing that is correct when he says that all he was doing was making youtube videos um criticizing the u.s uh nato support for the ukraine war criticizing zielinski um the u and i and so i for the Ukraine war, criticizing Zelensky, um, the U and I, and so I asked the state department about this a couple months ago. And,

and, um, Matthew Miller, the spokesman was just like, yeah, you know, we're aware this was when he was still in jail. He's like, yeah,

we're aware that he's, that he's in jail. Um, we support free speech and I'm just going to leave it at that. And I was like, well, are you, are you working to get him released?

And he's like, I'm just going to leave it at that. And so clearly it sounds like Gonzalo, they probably had arrested well yeah they might have given the order to get him arrested but it sounds like he escaped prison right if i'm reading that right no they he was released and they gave him back his passport oh really yeah oh they released him gave him his passport and said don't leave however he was supposed to have an ankle monitor and no passport. Oh, I see. I see.

Okay. So what he tweeted, which is what we were just reading, is that someone told him, yo, they're telling you to leave. But it could be a setup. Like he said, he leaves, he takes us and he says, I'm getting out of here before. And that's what they use to get him. Yeah. What do you do other than that?

Well, this is wild. And like, I'm, I'm'm i'm excited to kind of ask the government about this now because like this could change i don't it's an interesting story like it's going to be interesting to see how like our government reacts to this because like are they going to acknowledge like are they going are they going to even acknowledge this story because because inherent to it is the fact that they've been letting this u.s citizen rot in prison for a couple months you know they're going to ignore it yeah well yeah exactly but i'm and i'm i hope to that i can ask him about it um and see what they say but it's you know yeah it's just crazy i mean he had the

wrong views and and and so we allowed um or even maybe directed our ally to imprison him uh for speech i remember when he was insane when he was making those videos i was like in my gut i thought wow this is what is he doing he's in a war torn he's in the country that's at war right now and he's talking crap about his own like that doesn't go well for citizens if you're in a war like yeah right but but the u.s should still stand up for the principles free speech i agree with you i i asked thomas massey that this question it was not recorded but he basically said the same thing he was like like, well, what was he doing over there in Ukraine? But it's like, he

lived there. He lived there before the war started. He wasn't only reporting. He lived there. So that was his home. If an American goes to another country and becomes a citizen, have they not just forgiven all their American rights? They no longer have American rights. No, he's still a citizen.

He's not a citizen. He's a resident. Yeah, he's a citizen of the U.S., resident of ukraine but his his u.s citizen rights don't apply to other countries like you can't no no but when but when you have chinese rights just because you're a chinese citizen but go go i mean listen to the biden administration listen to the state department whenever there's a u.s citizen who i mean britney uh britney griner like remember when she was detained in russia it was like all we could talk about is like release him and then um that they traded the merchant the wall street yeah and then the wall street journalist the wall street journal journalist who was also in prison in russia i don't know if he's still there but it's like those things we

can't stop talking about it because it's our adversaries imprisoning our citizens this is our ally who we have a ton of leverage over imprisoning our which says to me, the likely scenario is the Biden administration ordered his arrest. Potentially, potentially, I asked a bunch of people in Congress about this. None of zero zero out of maybe like 25. I would just I would go in the halls of Congress and outside zero out of 25 even knew he was in jail. How plausible does any does everybody here think it is that the u.s government ordered him to be arrested how plausible on a scale of zero to 100 i'm gonna go ahead and say 100 100 percent uh plausibility i'm not saying it's definitively

true yeah well so what i would say is like at a minimum they they probably gave the okay you know what i mean like ukraine's not just gonna arrest an american citizen so they probably at one point i'm saying the u.s order to arrest him and then biden said yeah sure you want to know why i think the u.s ordered it because barack obama killed a 16 year old american citizen and that wasn't the only american citizen he killed so when you can state definitively that barack obama murdered a 16 yearyear-old American citizen in a drone strike in Yemen,

then I'm like, yeah, arresting a guy is like nowhere near that bad. I would say it is plausible, 100%, that Biden could have ordered that guy's arrest, but I see zero evidence that he did, so I'm not going to assume anything. Yeah, exactly. Likely, I think...

No, I am. I'm going to assume the U.S. was involved because they wouldn't get him out. They wouldn't talk about it. They ignored it. Yeah, we're too closely, tightly knit with that country to the U.S. not to be involved. Well, I agree they were involved. Yeah, I'm sure it was discussed. I'm sure they went and they said, hey, you know, Biden administration, we got this guy. He's an American. What should we do? And they'll lock him up.

Yeah, don't care. Probably because like Biden probably doesn't care if people are talking crap about the ukraine it's biden he's checked out but zielinski is like obsessively shutting down radio stations and tv stations he shut down two of their biggest three tv stations yeah he was doing that before the war as well he was he was sanctioning uh political opponents as well as uh media outlets that would criticize him this was before the war so yet another reason it's like why are we why are we propping up this regime? Was he doing that censorship with pressure from the West?

I don't know, but he was doing it. Yeah, I don't know where the pressure came from. But yeah, so he does have a history of not being a super democratic pro-freedom guy. And yeah, this story in general is insane. I mean, I hope L lira i i wish him luck and i hope this also injects into like the public conversation of like wow the u.s just like let this guy rot there and like i hope it opens up a conversation about like you know that we're not

really on the side of uh freedom and democracy in this war all right everybody we're gonna we're going to go to super chats so if you't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. If you really do like it, it really does help and head over to Timcast.com. Click join us, become a member at Timcast.com to watch the members only uncensored show coming up in about a half an hour. But for the time being, we will read your super chats. Sean says American flags, number two song in the country, Tom McDonald and Adam Calhoun. Make it number one. Absolutely. Go to iTunes, go to wherever you buy music, Amazon perhaps, and buy American Flags by Tom McDonald. And let's build some culture. Tom does

a really great job. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I got too caught up in our recent streak of cultural winnings that I nearly forgot when it comes to our political leaders. All we have are the hand sitting on strong worded, yes, hand sitting on strong worded letter Republicans. But the good news is the Republicans are sending more strongly worded letters. I was getting worried for a minute. Rand Paul sent two so far. Hope they give him a chance to read the old ones first oh yeah yeah brandon hampson says ian is slowly turning into ripped jesus

dude i look good in the mirror i look good but on wait but so on the strongly worded letters thing it's like what what do people want them to do impeachpeach Merrick Garland. They have the house. But can you do with just the house, you can impeach Merrick Garland? Yes. Oh, okay. That conviction is something different. Okay. That's a good suggestion. So impeachment and then, you know, but at the very least we're saying just try instead, they're like, oh, you know, what are we going to do? What they're probably doing is they're going to Democrats and saying, look, they want us to vote to impeach Biden. But I'll tell you what, I'll vote no if you agree with my funding for Insert X Project. Right.

Then they go, you got it. That's it. Welcome to Congress. Cody Justin Fannin says nothing will happen. Biden will get a strongly worded letter. Congress is weak, corrupt, and lazy. I wish we had political leaders that stood for anything.

I agree. I agree. I'm not even convinced Donald Trump is the passionate leader who stands against most of this. I think for the most part, Trump had an agenda he wanted to enact that he believed in.

But I don't think Trump's first term was him being like we've got to purge the deep state and go after these people he certainly said drain the swamp but i don't think he actually passionately believed it because he kept a lot of these awful people in i don't even believe uh that trump cares about it so much today i think trump wants revenge today big difference has there ever been a leader that got in and was like i'm gonna do everything for you guys all the people the people then they get into power and they're like yes everything the people want and then it's exactly what they wanted like all of them to be fair trump tried really

hard to keep his promises yeah but what i'm saying is trump had an agenda he thought was good not everybody liked it he got an office he tried to enact that agenda he did say he wanted to drain the swamp he did for some to some degree but he brought in a bunch tried to enact that agenda he did say he wanted to drain the swamp he did for some to some degree but he brought in a bunch of bad people that were your typical establishment republicans but then still tried to enact his agenda oh poor him if only he just fired everybody from the get-go and he should have done it but but i remember at the time like they'll impeach him if he does yeah how did that work out he got impeached twice anyway you know they impeached him when he wasn't even president anymore.

Matt H. says, Ian, you're supposed to weigh yourself after you take a dump in the morning. That's how you measure approximate muscle gains. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. There you go. Troy B. says, anyone else excited to see Tucker on Twitter? Change to Tucker on X. That's a good one.

Yep, yep. Mac N. says, the UFO story is very old tim not really a distraction but more of a convenient time to bring it up happened in the 80s have a good night guys it's a story that was written uh and published today but i believe you are corrected it's it's about an old story was that was that in reference to the story that ufo uh almost started world war three but i think that's a different story in reference to? The story that UFO almost started World War III. But I think that's a different story, actually. I think the other story was that all the nukes were disabled by UFOs. And now, apparently, there's a story where a UFO almost started World War III or something like that.

WeAreChange says, Ian needs to take the chill pill ashwagandha. Oh, yeah. It helps boost natural testosterone and helps with stress while working out.ke rudkowski ladies and gentlemen we are change what is that take the chill pill thing that's luke's ashwagandha ashwagandha this is something take the chill pill it's uh i've taken it before at luke's uh suggestion and it is fantastic it's nice but does it have that issue you mentioned of needing to keep replenishing your testosterone? I don't think so. It's more like a supplement.

I take ashwagandha as well. How did Luke actually get takethechillpill.com? No, no, no. It just relaxes you. It allows you to calm down. And that's overall generative of testosterone. Take the chill pill? Take the chill pill.

Yeah, that's Luke's one. His personal one. How did no one have that domain? Dude, go to takethechillpill.com Take the chill pill. What's it made of? All right, let's... Oh, you're selling ashwagandha.

Nice work there. Probably a bunch of like seed oils and stuff. That's a chill pill. All right, let's read some more. We got Steve McGee. He says, I'm here for watching

Ian gain some lean mass. Hearing 129 was pretty shocking. Is Ian Crossland the new Trad Daddy? Yeah. 11 inches around think about it trad dad dude it was so weird to gain 10 pounds in two days i've weighed 140 in the past so it's not that weird but that is very very underweight i'm pretty sure amazing have you checked your

checked your bmi no soon next time i go to the gym we're gonna do a fat and muscle to be fair bmi is like a lot of nonsense dude my bmi was seven and a half percent when i went in the first that's not what bmi is bmi is a number like my body fat body fat percentage it's supposed to be like body mass index yeah between 8 and 12 i was 7 uh 23 or something 22 you are not 23 you're probably like 15 been a while i think i got it measured at the doctor as well if you work out if you lift or if you're an athlete your bmi is always super high so it's kind of nonsense you know but uh for you you're probably way underweight if you check just do it right now you can take it takes five seconds

let's grab some more ryan sargent is on a scale of one to ten what would you rate the chances of the u.s going into a depression 10 being definite p. P.S. My wife and I love Rise with Roberto Jr. It is one of the best coffees I've ever had. That's over at castbrew.com. But I do think Appalachian Nights is the best coffee I've ever had. It's easy for me to say I'm the one who formulated it. So surprise, I chose what was most delicious to me. And now I think it's the most delicious thing ever.

But I really do recommend it. Scale 110 for depression. It's tough because there's a lot of indicators suggesting things actually aren't going to get that bad in the short term uh it's weird things going on but then i would also add the weird things might suggest weird things you know i can't i can't speak too much i'm not an economic guy i was just watching, who was I watching? What's his name? Anthony Pompliano, is that his name? That's his name, yeah.

Pomp, Pomp, yeah. I was watching one of his videos. He explained a lot of this stuff. Maybe I'm getting something wrong, but I recommend checking out his stuff. And I can tell you that when I checked out Max Keiser, who's a big finance guy,

all he did was scream, buy Bitcoin over and over again. And then I regretted not taking his word for it. Yep. The crypto makes it so it seems like a full-on depression is less likely but i think you're gonna see a wage gap increase where you'll see some poor people and yeah i know with the amount of homelessness that struck the last two years so there's a depression for some you know apparently gonzo lira also posted on youtube yeah that's what it says on that let me uh yeah all this army was, why is he posting?

But at the same time, what in the hell could anyone in that situation do at this point? It's very smart to record your journey and get people... That's the last thing he would do. Just for his own safety, just post something. That's very smart. The last thing he posted was two hours ago saying he was about to cross the border. He should have live streamed it.

He should have Twitch streamed it. So we could see what they did to him. Should we advocate to bring him to the U.S. and let him stay here? He's an American citizen. If he can get on a flight, he's here. He'll be safe. But then again, if Ukraine indicts him, the U.S. is going to send him back. That's what I'm wondering. Oh, my BMI, I have the number.

I was 18.5. Now I'm 19.8. Oh, okay. That's not bad. Really? At 140? That seems really low. I had i'm 19.8 oh okay that's pretty that's not bad so yeah that's really at 140 that seems really low yeah i had a super low i mean i feel like it should be lower yeah i remember went to the doctor i was the lowest number at the normal weight which is 18.5 all gains from here on up just go to the bathroom when you got to go to the bathroom sleep when you got to sleep yeah twice as much as you think you need yeah are you

gonna continue this pace though of of what is it 12 pounds per week forever i think i would be happy at 170 okay and then just rip muscle just shredded for movies movies like i don't want to get too big um but then i'll keep like a i'll keep it stable after that so i don't know if it means you keep working out every day okay so you so you're okay right now. Normal weight. You know, you're on the low end. You're on the low end. But you were underweight before.

Yeah. Yeah, 129? Dude. Gandhi. Yeah, that's like amazing. Actually, even at your lowest, apparently you were just at the bottom end of normal weight. 127.

Luke says... 127 is underweight. Luke says,an hitting the gym let's go uh let's go in dude luke let's go you gotta get out here man you're gonna love it real quick on the depression thing brother real quick on the depression thing i so definition of depression is uh three or three or more years of sustained decline in the real gd GDP at at least 10% in one given year. So, I mean, is that possible? Potentially, I mean, that would just be very devastating.

I disagree with you. I don't see how crypto in any way prevents, you know, affects GDP. If anything, it's taking money away from GDP because you're just like putting it into these computers that solve math problems and give people a fake coin. I think I see a lot of benefits to crypto. What do you mean fake coin? Well, I just mean it's a coin that isn't backed by anything, but it is, you know, it's the immutable ledger.

But it is. Well. Especially depending on which coin you're talking about. Well, so what I was going to say. Some are backed by US dollars. Okay. But then, you know, if it's backed, but if it's, this is the thing with crypto. If it's backed by an asset, then you are now relying on a third party to honor that commitment.

You mean like buying silver on exchange? Yes, yes. Well, no, but also you can buy silver and keep it at your house. So, but the point of crypto. And you can cold storage crypto. Yeah, you can cold storage crypto. I'm just saying if it's backed by a US dollar, if it's backed by an asset, then you're relying on someone to actually give it to you. One of the cryptos I do like is Monero.

That one is like, I don't even own it, but it's like all the transactions are obfuscated, so they're all washed, so the government can't track you. And I think there's some utility to that. If we did slip into some sort of authoritarian world where your transactions are being monitored and stuff and you want to use something like monero i don't think it helps gdp um i don't know if we can go into a depression um but i do love peter schiff check him out

he's great on stuff he came down to occupy wall street he would probably agree with that i think he thinks his whole thing is he thinks we're getting a depression and inflation and it's gonna be freaking bad because we're in stagflation right now as well. Alright, let's read some more. It never happens. We've had so many never happen things. A lot of economists say they know what's going to happen. There's no way.

Kato Astis says, an expansion of the idea of the truck company segment earlier. Just for a quick reference, Yellow Trucks is shutting down. 30,000 jobs about to be nuked. 22,000 Teamsters. UPS was founded by its union to have made $52 billion in profit in the past five years. And UPS is now giving about $7 raise to all drivers.

Made me think, why do we demand more in pay instead of demand company drop prices? Well, the staff, the people who work there want to get a bigger cut of what they're producing. Then I get. The issue with Yellow Truck is that the company was collapsing and the union was making demands and then the company just outright collapsed and now nobody has a job. So the point I was making is that it's really funny

when it comes to the left's arguments. They're like, the people who are producing the product deserve a share of the wages. And I'm just like, you are correct. And then when the company is facing debt, do we take that money back and they got to pay into the company to cover the debts? No. So they only get they get they get profit when the going's good.

But when the going's bad, it's everything on the on the business. That doesn't make sense, does it? All right. How about this? Like, here's my here's my negotiation. Everybody gets a percentage and then when the company falls on hard times you have to pay to reinvest back into the company yeah no one's going to want to do that right all right we'll grab some more jacob says listen to

tom mcdonald and adam calhoun's new song american flags indeed you should we'll grab some more super chats here. SH22 says, the reason why the USD keeping its strength up is because of geopolitical economic interdependence. Keeps people on our side if they have a vested interest in the US. That's right. The reason why the US is giving money

for gender studies in Pakistan is because if people have the money, they want to use the money. So the US is like, we will bolster confidence in our money by giving our money away. There you go. It really does work that way.

Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, Tim, that makes no sense. Why would the CIA to avoid communist China becoming strong prefer the globalist communists at the WEF? CIA is bad, MK. I can explain that to you very simply. You see, the World Economic Forum, people in the CIA, Democrats, the deep state, they

took a look at China and said their system is so much better than our system because they can spin on a dime. We want that. We just don't want them to be in control. They want all of this live in the pot and eat the bugs. They just want to be the ones running it. It's that simple. They don't believe in the American dream eat the bugs. They just want to be the ones running it. It's that simple. They don't believe in the American dream and American values.

They believe in power. I see it a little different. I see three factions on Earth, the communist faction, the economic faction, and the liberty faction. You could say that the CIA has been co-opted and that it's not quite functioning as a liberty faction right now, but this liberal economic order faction.

Not quite. When were they ever? Yeah, really. 1949, hopefully. No. 1942 or 43. No, it was always the power. I don't think Alan Dulles was ever about liberty. Well, then the Spanish-American War, 1898. They legit liberated Cuba

and just let Cuba become a free country. The CIA didn't exist in 1898. No, no, no. That was the liberal ethos that I'm looking for. Oh, okay. Sustaining the Monroe doctrine. So I do, I think that there's multiple factions. I don't think the CIA necessarily wants the World Economic Forum to take over

either, but they're just as, they're blind with their pants down, like, how do we stop technocratic, you know, revolution? So I think their ears are open. Alright, Cipriano Diaz says, Hi Tim, my cat is having surgery tomorrow broken tooth fractured paw and jaw oh no everyone please pray everything goes well ian please send some healing energy for quick recovery love you all love you i hope everything

goes well i gotta give you that rock luke charged it in the ocean for you let's do it we gotta grab it ceremoniously yeah he walked into the ocean ocean with this crystal and he wanted to make sure you knew that he charged it for you. Excellent. I have no idea what that means, but he put it in water. Yeah, he put his Reiki into it. His electromagnetic field

vibrated the subatomic spin within. He put it in the ocean. Oh, then there's more. And then he said it's charged now. The ocean charged it. Oh, maybe those are free radicals. Is it ionization from the salt water? Does it lose charge?

Do you gotta like bring it back to the waters of Tijuana? Yeah, I think so. It could lose charge. But some structures are so great at holding charge, like crystals. Group B says, went and saw Sound of Freedom yesterday morning for first showing at 1040, and it was packed. I rewatched the Tim Ballard episode. Dude, what a story.

That is actually, I would recommend that. If you go see Sound of Freedom, go re-watch the episode of IRL we do with Tim Ballard as like a director's commentary almost. Or go see the movie again, then go watch the episode we did with Tim Ballard again so you can get a breakdown and it's fresh in your mind. And what did they break, like 150 million? I think.

Is that what it was? At this point, no. Let me pull up. Have you seen it? Sound of Freedom? No, I haven't seen it yet. It's awesome. I'm planning to. like 150 million i think is that what it was let me at this point now let me pull up sound of freedom yeah i haven't seen it yet it's awesome i'm i'm planning to yeah man um 149 million wow jim caviezel's got like this this silent amazing pain the man is is amazing i have still haven't seen the passion of the christ yeah well so what i thought was funny about sound of freedom is like when the mainstream media

bashed it as QAnon, everyone who liked the movie kind of jumped to its defense and was like, no, no, no, it doesn't even talk about the government. And that's when I was like, well, okay, I'm not as interested now. I do realize it's like super fucked up what's going on, but like, and I think a lot of Pizzagate was bullshit, but there was a lot of weird factual things in Pizzagate that raised red flags about John Podesta and stuff. So I would have been much more. And then obviously Epstein is a proven case of basically government sanctioned pedophilia. So I was, you know, I hope I wish the mainstream media was right.

And it did actually get into some government pedophilia. You should you should watch The Passion. You should. Yeah. Yeah. I watched it recently for the first time. I'd never seen it. And it's good. It is. It's not...

I don't actually see it as overtly religious. It's very political. Is it just Caviezel screaming in agony for like two hours? Not really. Okay, good. I think that's exaggerated. I mean, it's merciless and graphic. I like the politics.

Jesus Christ Superstar, the musical, also good politics. It's a lot of politics it's a lot of you know like that the i've i remember strongly the scene with uh with with ponchus and he's talking to the crowd and they're and he's you know like all of these things very political i thought it was very very does it show judas from like a somewhat sympathetic light like in jesus christ superstar they kind of show the stories from judas's perspective and he's watching his friends slowly lose it and Jesus he's like Jesus

when we started it was about the message now it's about your name they're screaming your name they don't even care what you're saying anymore this has got to stop and Jesus is like

he's losing his mind it's an awesome musical they show throwing the silver to Judas and it like spills on the ground yeah wild and then he like

throws it back later and he's like I don't know you should watch it it's interesting alright we'll grab some more super chats over here let's see Eric Miller says Yeah. Wild. And then he like throws it back later and he's like, I don't know. You should watch it. It's interesting. All right. We'll grab some more super chats over here. Let's see.

Eric Miller says, Tim, about yellow trucking. It is rumored that Amazon and Home Depot were going to buy them because they have accounts with them and it's cheaper now. Hmm. Interesting. Robert Fox says, I don't normally get to watch this live, but let me cook. I want a Roberto Jr. shirt that says, flock around and find out. Keep doing the great work. Awesome. Cl flock around and find out. Keep doing the great work.

Cluck around and find out. Oh, yeah. Let's do it. Cluck around and find out. I get flock around and find out. I don't know. Maybe that one's better. We're going to be... With an umlaut on the O? We're going to be doing Roberto Jr. Pro Model Skateboards. Oh, sweet. Yeah, like, I'm not...

I don't get a pro model skateboard. I mean, I posted a skate video today on Instagram. I like that, because it showed a blooper. That was cool. It was, well. It was still impressive. I walked to that. The blooper made it better, because I saw, like, the struggle.

It's not so much a blooper, and it's that I did a hang ten hard flip, light flip, stuck it, and then fell, and that was the best it was going to be. Oh, that was awesome. And then I did a different trick, which is very, very similar, which is an endo flip. Oh, I thought it was the best it was going to be. Oh, that was awesome. And then I did a different trick which is very, very similar, which is an endo flip. Oh, I thought it was the same trick. Two different tricks. Two different tricks, very, very similar. So the first trick is called

a hang ten hard flip late flip. The board flips around, then right before catching it, when it's upright, I hit it again so it flips one more time. On the grip tape. The second trick is a hang 10 endo flip where the board flips end over end and then halfway around i hit it on its underside while it's upside down causing it to flip one and a half times and then i land on it different trick

looks similar yeah those are nice but yeah i'm not a skater but it did look cool i gotta say that roberto jr pro model that's sweet yeah do you know what size she's gonna have like a roberto jr is probably gonna be I got to say that. Roberto Jr. Pro Model. That's sweet. Yeah. Do you know what size he's going to have? Like 8'5"? Roberto Jr. is probably going to be 8'5". Yeah. Because that's the board I'm going to ride, the Roberto Jr. Model. Yeah, he's a superstar over here, man. You know, all the ladies love him.

Yeah, I'm bullish on him. All the chicken ladies. They love him. But little Luke's been going at it lately. Little Luke the rooster, his feet are all messed up. Oh, yeah? Yeah, just because he had bad... I it might have been um malnourishment something happened when he was a baby which is like earlier this year and so his feet are kind of messed up but it's okay because apparently he's

had no trouble you know getting it out with the ladies well that's good are you gonna have a single that's good a single bowl to get the ladies uh typically we just do have the we we we for a while it was roberto and roberto jr and then roberto you know he had to be he retired yeah he was actually imprisoned for uh sexual assault yeah he was hurting one of the hens pretty bad and now roberto you guys put him in prison it was culture he had to get put in a separate little pen because he was hurting the hens oh wow and then roberto now he's over at the uh cocktown over at fordhamistan um but uh roberto jr now his spurs are really big and he's starting to hurt the ladies pretty bad so he's taking after his father well it just happens when the bruisers get older and a lot of people are like cut the spurs and i'm like ah but

that's mean like it hurts them and we don't want to do that but maybe we just got roberto jr is gonna have to go to finer pastures i think what we're gonna do though and this is a big announcement we're gonna auction off a bunch of the chickens. They have a chicken auction periodically out here. And so we've got too many. And they keep making more of themselves. So we have to do something about that. So we're probably going to take, you know, a good portion,

maybe half of the current batch, and then auction them. So I think the people locally out here will be really excited. And then we'll get, like like little placards with their names and we'll like sign it like official cast you know uh cast castle chicken city chickens but then we'll keep the original chickens those are our those are our friends you know we like them like margaret and roberto jr margaret's very ravenous let's grab some more super chats from our friends here to nalorum says you are all talking about russian prisons but in america we weren't talking about russian prisons we're talking about ukraine but in american prisons people get raped to the point it's a joke in most media and pop culture think about it the worst crime in existence even murder

is more merciful happens in american prisons as standard fare if you cross a warden by refusing to be uh literal slave labor yes the, the U.S. prison system is horrifying and completely broken, I agree. But we weren't talking about Russian prisons. I don't think we said anything about Russia. No, we were talking about Ukraine. Yeah, Ukraine. Brittany Griner came up at one point. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah, but we didn't mention anything about the prisons.

Or endorse American prisons either, so, yeah. As DoeIsTooDeer says, there is no faster way to accelerate the divide in the country than to pardon the leader of one side after they commit high crimes i agree yeah you'd have to do both at the same time nope wait sorry can you say that again this was the uh no faster way to divide a country than by pardoning one leader like a leader from one side of the political aisle uh and then and then prosecuting someone on the other side yeah or not yeah assumedly i guess i really think i really strongly disagree with you about about uh like pardoning people and stuff

like that i really think what's your what's your motivation for it because like on the whole blackmail thing to end the ukraine war i think it's a no-brainer pardon him but like um i i don't know i completely disagree i don't think so that makes no sense if if it if it had a chance of ending the war in ukraine i would do a lot of things but i would certainly pardon joe biden yeah um my goal is right but but that's that's like a if it would do thing we do it sure but like the reality is it would not no no it might because he might be how he might have blackmail on him. And that might be why we're still in power. If you have pardon power for in this position, you criminally prosecute.

Like there's no circumstance in which you'd pardon Joe Biden for any reason. What do you mean? The reason is like if you can, you can forgive him and say don't worry joe biden as president we the american people will not hold it against you if it turns out you did bad things yeah yeah i see yeah if you are if you are the president and you have federal pardoning power you go to your doj and say lock him up i want an indictment tomorrow morning right so in yeah okay it's not technically pardoning it's basically just like we're not going to prosecute him well i'm looking for but he but but no he has the prosecution power like well right his appointee in the scenario was like if you're president or like if you have magically have

the pardon power would you use it to you know kind of like and and this is my point did with nixon let's talk about how we deal with this in reality because this scenario is impossible completely impossible right you have to win we need ballot harvesting ballot chasing we need massive voter operations trump goes in appoints uh an ag who immediately goes after joe biden and we get a perp walk there you go problem solved but but like that's also fantasy like if you think that's gonna happen like you're not that's that's actually possible no i see it's like a physical it's a it's a theoretical possibility i just think like the fact that not only trump gets in the white house

but that he like is able to is able to this is just opinion samens right i'm saying it is a it is a fact-based reality that trump is running for office right there may there's going to be an election if he wins he can then appoint an ag who does this thing there is no basis in reality where someone magically has pardon power but they're not in the government yeah no i i get what you're saying i'm just saying like you yourself said that like you think the 2024 elections are going to be they're going to happen but they're basically going to be could be a sham and i didn't say i said no one's going to accept the results oh i see okay so you you actually so you think there's a real chance trump could win yes well to answer your question about oh you have more well like trump beat hillary

clinton right but then like think about 2020 when there was the whole intel community coming together and being like in and censoring the hunter biden story um you know and they created the the russia story before during the election as well against Donald Trump. Right. And Trump still beat Hillary Clinton. Yeah. And I mean, because Hillary didn't go to what was it? She like skipped Michigan or Wisconsin. I think it was I think it was actually Pennsylvania, but I'm not positive.

It's somewhere in the West. I guess so. You don't you don't fully buy into the fact that like they they will do whatever is possible to not let him get him in office. A vengeful second term Trump. You don't think that the deep state will you know i didn't say that but but what do you think is more likely do you think like the deep state it will succeed in preventing him from getting elected or do you think like what's what do you think the percentage i think i think the the bureaucratic state the

deep state the permanent government will do everything in their power to try and stop trump and there's a possibility trump wins do you want put a percentage on it that Trump wins? No idea. No idea. Trump won in 2016. He lost in 2020. So that means it's 50-50. 50-50. Okay. I give it a 7% chance. I like that, yeah. Anyone that says

when you hire me to be your boss, I'm going to fire you, they're not going to hire you to be their boss. The reason I'm going for pardons and why I keep talking about pardons is because I don't honestly I don't give a fuck about Joe Biden Donald Trump Hillary Clinton these old people that have been shredding my Republic for the last 20 30 years these families. I'm tired of it all. I want to wash them away I want to pardon everyone let them retire so we can create a new government a functional Yeah, I'm their retirement

They buy houses next to the White House start putting tons of money into their appointees use their exorbitant assets and their hundreds of millions of dollars earned from their influence to then inject people into your new constitutional republic that that'll never stop though yeah it's called putting them in jail yeah but that doesn't stop the behavior like and it also pisses people off when their relatives go to jail. So you just got to be careful with the whole prosecution. I have very little concern for corrupt American dynasty families who have been selling us out when there's 320 some odd million people who would smile if these people were locked up for the crimes they commit. I'm not convinced that... I'm talking about the babies too, because a lot of those

hundreds of millions of babies in there. Babies smile, too. I don't think it's a good idea to worry about the reactions of family members when it comes to whether or not we should prosecute people for violating political partners. We've got to go to the members only. We're going way over. We've got to go to the

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a freemium game xcom ufo defense freemium alien probably at this point it is it was like came out and by micro micro pros in 1992 i would be shocked if that's the best game ever it was really good dude and they made sequels. XCOM. I've never played it. I have a feeling Elon's a fan. He's got X.com. Nice job, Elon. Nice work bringing it to the forefront, brother. So come on over to TimCast.com. We're going to do a little

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