Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #830 Biden DOJ CHARGES TRUMP With CONSPIRACY Over 2020 Election Claims w/Tayler Hansen

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Tayler Hansen to discuss Donald Trump being indicted and charged with conspiracy to overthrow the 2020 election, Ray Epps' lawyer claiming Joe Rogan is more responsible for causing January 6th than Epps, new polls showing Donald Trump still ahead of Biden despite indictments, & Vivek Ramaswamy announcing a lawsuit against the Biden DOJ. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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conspiracy essentially against the United States. We're also hearing there will be likely another indictment coming out of Georgia with potentially more than a dozen defendants. There are also several unindicted co-conspirators in this charge. Ladies and gentlemen, this is probably the most serious effort taken by Biden's DOJ explicitly to interfere in the 2024 election to prevent Trump from winning. We've heard a lot of people say that Trump can't win. They talk about polls, but the polls are actually showing Donald Trump is doing better than ever and that he's either tied with or beating Joe Biden. So what is Joe Biden doing? Exactly this. Now, of course, you can argue it's Merrick Garland, it's the DOJ, but these are Joe Biden's appointees, and they are going after the frontrunner for the Republican Party.

It's unprecedented, and I think it is rather terrifying where this goes. We're going to break down this story and much more. We also have big news coming out of Russia, another drone strike on targets in Moscow. And now we're seeing more and more calls to bring back the military draft. I'm not kidding. Military.com just published an op-ed saying that we need a limited military draft. Joe Biden just called the select reserves and the ready reserves. The likelihood of a military draft in the event of a full-scale war? Well, it's there. It's there.

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us, but also just more importantly, share the show right now, take the URL, post it wherever you can. It's the most powerful way to help the work we do, podcasts, growth, or word of mouth. So again, smash that like button, share the show with your friends. Joining us today to talk about this and a whole lot more is Taylor Hanson. Nice to be here. Who are you? What do you do? I'm an independent journalist and field reporter. I cover a little bit of everything from child drag shows to, you know, it was the riots January 6th, but, you know, we like to cover a little bit of everything.

Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. It should be interesting. We also got Phil Labonte. How you doing, everybody? I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Ian Crossland, what's up, everybody? Let's get rolling. Yeah, I am surge.com. I agree. Let us go. Well, that was fast. Let's jump into this first story here.

We got this from the AP. Trump indicted for efforts to overturn 2020 election and block transfer of power. Donald Trump was indicted on felony charges Tuesday for working to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the run-up to the violent riot by his supporters at the U.S. Capitol, with the DOJ moving to hold him accountable for an unprecedented effort to block the peaceful transfer of presidential power. The four-count indictment, the third criminal case against Trump, provided deeper insight into a dark chapter in American history that has already been the subject of exhaustive federal investigations and captivating public

hearings. It chronicles a months-long campaign of lies about the election results and says that even when those falsehoods culminated in a chaotic insurrection at the Capitol, Trump sought to exploit that violence by trying to further delay the counting of votes that sealed his defeat. They go on to then add some opinion nonsense. We can, I think we have the actual indictment right here. Count one, conspiracy to defraud the U.S. Count two, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, count three. Obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights.

They go on to lay out their case with a few interesting points. I'll pull this one up from Brett L. Tolman, who says, I've now read the indictment twice. It is criminalizing speech, thought, legal, legal positions, right or or wrong and disinformation it is also shockingly manipulative of statuses and theories which require enormous legal wrangling further as a further it ignores advice of counsel defenses and men's and men's rare requirements but the most glaring thing is what's not in the indictment the charges of treason sedition or any other serious fact-based count outlining genuinely criminal behavior the unindicted co-conspirators are lawyers representing the accused, a DOJ

employee, and a political consultant. And their conspiracy? Believing there was election fraud, talking about election fraud, and pursuing legal challenges in states they believed election fraud occurred. To put it simply, ladies and gentlemen, Trump has been indicted for taking the advice of lawyers. That's it. So I think the reality is that they're going to make up whatever reason they can to go after Donald Trump to prevent him from running in 2024.

They'll likely use this or whatever comes out of this because this is going to be a DC jury. The likelihood that Trump gets a fair trial is nil. There's likely going to be a bunch of Democrats who are going to vote to indict. And when he does, they will move to remove him from the ballots in 2024 for citing the 14th Amendment or insurrection or something that effect. Yep. And I think that it's not as much as the you're only going to see the effect on Trump right now, going forward for the rest of essentially American history or until there's some kind of significant change in the bureaucracy in Washington, any outsider candidate is going to be treated like Trump. Now, granted, Trump gives plenty of ammo to the left. Plenty is an understatement. Yeah's that's plenty is an understatement

yeah i think it's an understatement but um the fact remains they are prosecuting him or indicting him for things that he was found not guilty of with the impeachment in the senate so he was tried for a lot of the same things here in the Senate when he was impeached and they found not guilty. It's it's it's the same stuff. So they're they're just like it's clear that they're trying to make him either prevent him from being the nominee or make it make him, you know, I can't vote for him. I think they want him to be the nominee. And then once he is, they remove him from the ballot and now they're unopposed. Just cause mass chaos. Yep. Well, it seems like they're going

down this route regardless. There's not going to be any end to indictments. If this isn't the indictment that takes him out, there'll be a new indictment in a month. I mean, we've seen it over and over and over again. They're never going to give this guy a break. And it's interesting to me that they tried to tie in like January 6th just a little bit to this, even though I mean, it's been proven time and time again, there was no incitement from

him. You know, he basically had no role in this. I mean, the Capitol was already, the Capitol grounds were already breached while he was still speaking. And then he released a video on Twitter, Twitter took it down. They took the other video down and they banned him. So how are his followers supposed to see him saying, you know, stay peaceful. We love the Capitol policeitol police we support the capitol police you can't but they're just never going to stop this it seems like if i either my original thoughts was that we're going to run him through the ringer find him guilty of something and then take his name off the ballot maybe that will happen the other thing i'm just reading about it people are like yo he's getting bankrupted not maybe not literally bankrupted but this is costing him a lot of money i think it's been i think he

spent like what for i saw something like 40 million dollars and he's being attacked for it this is what i i never liked about these duplicitous political attacks steve bannon and that other dude they're doing that build the wall campaign they get a bunch of donations they indict and charge one of the guys behind it because he said he wouldn't take his salary and then he did not a single person who donated a legitimate fan cared that someone got paid a salary when they said they weren't going to get paid a salary. They were probably like, sure, whatever. And this is the same thing here. You've got people saying Donald Trump is swindling his supporters by taking the donations to pay his legal fees.

And I'm just like, dude, not a single Trump supporter cares what Trump does with the money. They know what this money is going towards. They see the indictments over and over again. And even if they didn't, they're so loyal to Trump. I don't think they're going to care at all. Agreed. If Trump came out and said,

look, we took a bunch of the money and we bought a golden toilet for my plane. Every, his fans would laugh. They'd love it. Yeah. Especially if it was pictures. Like it feels good when I sit on it.

They'd be like, yes, nice. It's warm. Yeah. Let me read this from the indictment. Check this out. This is interesting.

Section three. It says, page 2, The defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the election and to even claim falsely that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote in states or filing lawsuit challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the defendant did pursue these methods of contesting election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful. Shortly after election day, the defendant also pursued unlawful means of discounting legitimate votes and subverting the election results. doing so the defendant perpetrated three criminal conspiracies now this is this is the interesting thing they just the first one the first paragraph they're saying or i said i'm sorry

paragraph three that he's allowed to say these things not to claim these things he's allowed to seek these challenges but he also did eagle illegal things directly contradicts itself it's it's not that it's that they immediately then say but he did illegal things. It directly counterdicts itself. It's not that. It's that they immediately then say, but he did illegal things, therefore. Like, okay, you should list those illegal things. Like, if he's allowed to make these claims, if he's allowed to file these lawsuits, if all of that's fine, what did he do? Well, it seems like he's being prosecuted for trying to legally question the election. That's what it really here's what they say a conspiracy to defraud the u.s using dishonesty fraud and deceit to impair obstruct and defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected quite literally saying trump's

allowed to be wrong but he's not allowed to be wrong he's not allowed to lie he's allowed to be wrong but he's not allowed to lie and say it if he knows that it's not true every fiber of donald trump's being believes that he won the presidency like every single bit of donald and you know what's interesting this indictment comes out too and then you got the desantis camp releasing something trying to say like counteract the fact that you know he actually believed it they're saying that he knew beforehand that it wasn't actually stolen so and then it's interesting that this indictment comes out and the way that it's worded so it seems like there might almost be like working off of each other it's but the santas camp is clearly trying to take trump down and i don't think trump had like hard evidence that it was true so if he made the claim you can't know it's

true if you don't have evidence that hard evidence so it would just be an assumption but that's still not a lie you can still believe in it that's not a lie he was just asserting he was just saying this is the way that it is i know i'm confident in it the the i mean there it's reasonable to say that there was some amount of error and fraud so trump so trump's just like look i know that there were people that were suppressing votes and people trying to blah blah but i know that my voters came out for me. So go find those votes because they're out there. It wasn't like he was like, oh, go stuff ballots into a box. Not that I, not that he wouldn't put, wouldn't do that if he could get away with it because he would.

But I don't think that he was, I don't think that he has any kind of plan to stuff ballots or whatever. At one point, didn't he make like an offhanded comment about like voting twice or something? I remember when the left freaked out about it. It was a joke. I think Roseanne may have been right. Military tribunals by the end of the year?

Not that one. Roseanne said there's not going to be an election. And Michael Malice said, of course there will be. And then my response was, of course, define. We need to clarify what you mean. And I tweeted this earlier. Perhaps she's right, not in the literal sense that all of a sudden there's no election, but if Donald Trump is removed from the ballot in a single state, can you really call it

a true election? And that I think is an interesting point. Everyone knows the front runner is Donald Trump. He's going to be the nominee. He's going to be the nominee for the GOP, Joe Biden, likely unless something changes, it could change. But right now it's looking like Biden versus Trump. That's what the polls are showing. A lot can change from now and then. If there is an election and Trump is forcefully removed from that election, it's not an election because the people aren't given the choice they actually want. I agree.

You can you will people will call it an election. But if it isn't actually an election and it doesn't matter what you call it. Well, in Banana Republics, they call them elections. But you can't legally call American cheese cheese. That's why the package says American pasteurized processed cheese product. We call it cheese. We ask for extra cheese when we put it on our burgers, but it is legally distinct from cheese. So that's a technicality I'm referring to.

It is legally distinct from cheese. It in fact technicality i'm referring to it is legally distinct from it in fact is i love i like the comparison what i really love is i'm a big fan of home run and pizza you guys ever have home run i don't think so chicago famous chicago pizza brand they're it's really good pizza it's like a flat pizza and um you get these little personal ones and it says cheese pizza with pepperoni why because they don't have the legal amount of pepperoni on them to be called pepperoni pizzas. Oh, that's funny. Right. So here's my point.

There's a legal amount in Chicago? Wow. Not Chicago, I think federally. But here's my point. My point is this. Federal government at work. The left, the liberals, will remove Trump

and then say, we had a free and fair election. And the right will say, our guy was removed from the ballot. How is that a fair election? And the left will just say it. Let me read you this part of this. This is crazy. Check the co-conspirators one an attorney who was willing to spread lies they say false claims to an attorney who devised an attempt to implement a strategy three an attorney who's undefended claims of election fraud defendant

privately acknowledged others sounded crazy for a doj official five an attorney so there's what is this four attorneys advising donald trump and they're like that makes it a conspiracy so then you've got we're doing their jobs co-conspirator six a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors what they're doing is they're saying it's false because the media said so and the electors are fraudulent because they weren't elected, despite the fact Democrats had done this in 1960. They sent a slate of electors. They convened and did everything despite the fact the state was awarded to the Republicans. They did it anyway. And then when it came down to the actual electoral vote, Nixon, the VP at the time,

counted the Democrat votes instead. So when Donald trump did exactly the same thing now it's fraud this is a clear sham an attempt this is this is the real conspiracy this is the real fraud happening right in front of us donald trump believed stupid things don't get me wrong donald trump sought to legally remedy these things when he's on the phone with these people he genuinely believes that lawyers telling him these things are happening and he's like okay and as phil pointed out there is not an ounce there is not a tiny there is not a single cell in trump's body that believes he did not win every part of him believes he won how could he lose he's the biggest he's the best he's got golden toilets and his lawyers told him he did so he said pursue it they're going after him claiming

it's human like not only is the guy like, really strongly prone to think that he won because of his ego, but then he's got lawyers that are like, yeah, dude, you're totally right. He's like, he's not going to be like, oh, everyone else is right. Me and the guys that are literally telling me exactly what I want to hear, we are probably wrong. Well, and it's like their jobs, too. And now they're listed as co-conspirators for doing their jobs, being attorneys. It's the craziest thing. They're indicting his attorneys for legally advising him. Yeah. I would imagine that if the attorneys believed what they were saying, then they're not committing crimes. Well, and attorneys,

I don't think have to believe what they're saying. I mean, it's their job to defend their client. That's the entire point of it. I don't even think you legally have to believe you know your client i mean murder cases you know you a lot of i mean this is obviously different but attorneys represent murderers all the time look at oj simpson you know he did it but you know he got off and there are times where where you'll have a murder case where it's like you're getting charged with one like murder one and the the attorney will just swear up and down that it was just manslaughter right like they knew that that that you killed him but it wasn't intended and you know so details like that matter and they're gonna say whatever they need to say to get their client off you know yeah so if it turns out that trump believed what he was saying i mean first of all

how in the hell can you prove that in court? You can't. You cannot. Only he knows. That's why they don't go after perjury. Because it's impossible, most cases, to prove someone was lying.

So if it turns out he wasn't lying, he was just wrong, then does that not just clear all these other people then? Because there was no conspiracy, because there was no crime? You would think it would clear this entire indictment, because the entire indictment

is based on him allegedly knowing beforehand and then lying about it. So this indictment i mean it's just bs that's well so here's my question how can there be an election in 2024 with this already coming down because what we see here is i'll say it again in 1960 republicans win hawai. Democrats convene electors anyway, fill out the requisite forms and send them to DC, even though they lost. In the end, Nixon decides to count the Democrat electoral votes anyway, because there was a court hearing. They were not certified. He says, we're going to count these ones. Does anybody object? Okay. They go to Kennedy instead. Trump's team does that. They're claiming that's a conspiracy. The DOJ, Biden, Biden's DOJ is claiming that Trump knew he was lying, that his attorneys were conspiring with him to willfully lie and defraud the country to steal an election.

With them saying this, and of course, not a single Trump supporter believes this is true. How can there be an election in 2024 let's say that donald trump doesn't get criminal he doesn't get convicted he's on the ballot we make it to november and then they say go cast your votes how could anyone on the left believe it if trump wins how could anyone on the right believe it if biden wins yeah that's where i have that too man like with with people voting on a proprietary voting machine behind the scenes and then them just spitting you out and them telling us what our votes said without verification how i am lost i i'm like i am so far out of the political realm i see

no no solution within that broken within that i guess you would call obfuscated system i i can't i can't i don't know what what strings to pull on because I don't know what they're connected to because I can't see the code. What happens? What happens in 2024? The day after the election and they say the winner of the 2024 race is, insert candidate. What happens in this country? Yeah. How are you going to prove it?

That, you know, that candidate didn't win or did win. You can't because like you said, who's counting our votes? We're not. But I'm not even talking about that. It doesn matter who wins what happens to this country when one or the other wins it's going to fall apart regardless i think i mean we saw the reaction to when trump won you see the 2020 riots you see everything that happened and then you see the reaction to when biden wins you know either side is going to be very uncomfortable regardless of who wins it's just a matter of you know which side is going to be more uncomfortable and obviously the left is always going to be the more uncomfortable side when the opposing candidate wins but i think the

right it's kind of scary because in this situation it's like they're they're trying to push the right into the extremism box that they've already labeled them in that's their goal i feel like here they want these you know right-wing terrorists and right-wing extremists to go out and act like antifa i mean look at what they did with j6 right they that that is their goal i think here because then they can say look you know these people are insane they're everything we've been telling you they are for the past 10 years and it's just another i feel like it's just going to be another step towards the ultimate dehumanization process that we're seeing in the country yeah when if for instance, Biden wins in 24 and then people are just out of their minds, frustrated with the system, whether Trump got

elected, was in the election or not, they're going to look for like moral solace of some sort to not go crazy. And it's really our job or the job of you listening, you like all of us to keep people sane, keep your friends and neighbors sane. Cause if they do snap, they'll be used as an example, just like you're saying, Taylor. And just hitler did when the reichstag burned down he blamed the communists and he sent the whole country into martial law so do not step on that landmine if trump wins the left will say oh no the fascists are taking over he's a criminal and he's been indicted and we all know it he's trying trying to defraud this country. There's no way this is legitimate. Vladimir Putin's probably helping him.

Then what? If Joe Biden wins, then the right is going to say it's clearly the deep state. It's clearly fraud. What happens? I can't I can't predict. I have no idea. Well, did you see the other day this? I don't remember who it was.

It was obviously a left wing he's fairly famous character he was on joe rogan's podcast and rogan was pushing him uh you know on the question of you know are the biden's corrupt like there's clearly evidence yeah and uh you know he just it was clearly he didn't believe in anything that he was saying he was just stuttering and mumbling he was trying to know i think he trying to know what at all but i think i think it just shows you that like it doesn't matter what really happens the left is going to be unhappy regardless and they're just going to continue to get more unhappy these aren't happy people and they can never really achieve happiness or solitude in their political candidates i mean they're unhappy

with biden still so i think you're just going to keep seeing both sides being pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed until there's finally a breaking point again like 2020 i think 2024 is going to be a breaking point no i think it is going to be too that's what rosanna was saying she was saying something the fact there won't be an election and the idea that there is no election is absurd but it will be an election as people will go vote there will be ballots but will anyone believe the results it's a faux election yeah no i mean like it might be a real it might be real it might be legitimate but no one will believe it to not be able to know that's the problem we don't see the code tallying the votes

for us how can we know but that doesn't even matter because it's not all digital some is paper some of some of these places do take paper ballots the point is it doesn't matter if if the vote is two people and you and i walk in the room and i hold up a sign saying trump and you'll be signed saying trump and we go there it is trump won the left won't care they'll say it doesn't matter that he won fascists have taken over and now you must resist yeah i think you're right about that whoever seizes the power at the top it doesn't really matter to the crowd to the to the people to the culture and that's why i'm so heavily focused on creating songs and movies right now.

I don't, it doesn't seem like it's a direct line to salvation, like make a hit movie, but I mean, it can't hurt. It can only do good. And I know that during World War II, artists thrived, you know, in deep, dark times is when people really, really need someone to make them laugh or to make them smile

or to give them hope. So maybe that'll, maybe that'll do something. You see that all throughout history is that's when artists thrive is the darkest times throughout history and not just that, but musicians, people that give somebody hope, even if it's through a dark message,

they're always gonna thrive because people are always looking for something to latch onto because in a society, what are you gonna latch onto now? What, child drag shows? Like what moral things are in America right now and as it declines even more for you to latch latch on to now what child drag shows like what moral things are in america right now and as it declines even more for you to latch on to and to be proud of there's

pretty much nothing yeah we need structural reorganization the united states big time man i don't know if the three branches of government's enough if we need a fourth branch of government there's like the national initiative mike revell was working on the national initiative before he passed away that's an interesting concept that mike revell is a communist i don't think so that guy was lit. It's the young guys he let take over. The people running his Twitter account have kind of trash dragged it through the mud. No offense, guys.

I don't know if you actually have, but I have not been. It's not Mike Gravel. Let's put it that way. If you're a communist, I'm comfortable with the offense. So if we need a fourth branch of government so the people have more of a voice in writing and creating laws and passing them into the Senate because right now it's like a monopoly of like 300 400 people they get to get to do that but can you really i was gonna say can you really trust the government to give people

more power because whenever you know they've they've tried to give people more power it ends up with them having less power we are the government laws inherently do not empower people but like every law that the government passes or that gets passed takes power away from the individual and from the people. So you would be able to repeal laws also to give the national initiative. I'm not sure if that's written in,

but let's do it. Give people the opportunity to repeal laws. But also who's in charge of repealing the laws and instating new laws? That's where you run into the problem in the roadblock because not everybody's going to agree with the new laws. And why would the government want,

why would the government allow a new branch the existing government but the the probably the congress or and the the executive but why would the government allow a new branch to repeal laws when congress is fully empowered to do that now it would be still the senate and laws don't matter at all anyway yeah fair enough enforcement is what Enforcement is what matters. So either we, you know, if we want there to truly be changes in this country, it has to be cultural, meaning the people genuinely agree that something is over the line and other things are not. And that's where a lot of the culture war stuff is taking place in areas where the right and the left fundamentally disagree on what is okay and what isn't okay. Like, for instance, many liberals are okay with books like genderqueer and this book is gay which contains sexually graphic images they're okay with those books being given to minor children for whatever reason and then people on the right are not okay with that the law is clear you can't allow this but police will not enforce

it period so it's a cultural issue i've only ever seen the police like referring to child drag shows which is clear i mean sexual manipulate i mean you're taking advantage of these kids in an intentional way and corrupting their minds and you know i've covered over probably 50 of these just in texas alone there has only been one single one where anything was enforced and it wasn't against the drag performers it was against antifa so they're unwilling to enforce it even though it's clearly stated that it's against the law and then then SB 12 passed, which in September, it's going to go into state that it actually is against the law. There will evoke business licenses. There'll be jail time amongst other things, but it's still going to happen. And none of it's going to be enforced.

We need to show people like when I pick up that book, Gender Queer, and I turn to the page where the young kid has like a strap on and the other kid's getting down to go down on this other kid. You're like, maybe someone needs to see me showing a 14-year-old that to see how horrific it is. They'll go to jail. Exactly. But how can that...

We can't just put it behind a curtain and say it's fine. You cannot let that happen. Sorry, Taylor. Yeah, but the left does allow it to happen. Ian, you're not a communist. You go to jail. They're communists.

They're protected. I think it's because a lot of people don't know what's happening, and they're just going along with it. Like, Emma Vigeland was on The Culture War. She was like, oh, yeah, that book's great. Didn't even know what she was talking about. She obviously never read the book. But that matters to a certain degree,

but the real issue is there's a video of a guy backing away from Antifa in Seattle. They're threatening him with weapons, and the cops pull up, jump out, and arrest the victim. If you tried saying, everyone, look at this book, look what they're threatening him with weapons and the cops pull up jump out and arrest the victim if you tried saying everyone look at this book look what they're doing to kids they'll be like oh well you just committed a crime in courtrooms they're like don't it's too graphic don't show us we can't know and you're like dude you gotta know man don't if a teacher shows it to a kid nothing will happen if you are an opponent of the communists and you show it you will be

arrested well look it's a perfect example with with this topic i mean you look at the 2020 riots If you are an opponent of the communists and you show it, you will be arrested. Well, look, it's a perfect example with this topic. I mean, you look at the 2020 riots, right? And then the one time the right decides to write, look at the prosecution difference. I mean, when the dissenters do something that they're not supposed to, you know, while the other side's completely allowed to, it's just as illegal. They paid Antifa millions of dollars when they rioted in D.C. during Trump's inauguration. They smashed buildings that cost millions of dollars in damage they caused. They destroyed private vehicles, set fires in the streets, torched a limousine.

And then when the police arrested them, the cops got in trouble and the city paid out millions of dollars to Antifa as the victims. And then a couple of years later, the vice president was hocking or plugging their defense fund. Well, you look at the Portland defense fund with Rose City, Antifa and those groups. When I went to jail with them in 2020, I mean, I was talking to them. They have millions of dollars in that defense fund. When I last talked to him, it was like $3.8 million. And all that money is recycled because they're not getting prosecuted. They show up to their trial. They don't get prosecuted. That money goes right back in, and it just keeps stacking and stacking and stacking. But you don't see anything like that on the right.

Who has control of that fund? I don't know. Somebody has control. Act Blue? How do we fix this stuff, man? How do we get in there and make this like us? I think it all comes down to culture. I think that's the most understated and, you know, I mean, I would say underestimated aspect.

And Tim has done really, I mean, this whole crew has done really good on hitting on the culture more so than anybody on the right. As we should be making movies like Daily Wire, we should be making songs like Tim. You have to affect the culture to change it. I mean, you got to change people's minds and that is through culture. Let's jump to the story. We got this one from CW Atlanta. Security barricades placed around Fulton County Courthouse in Atlanta. They are slow rolling this one, and we know what's about to happen.

Fulton County DA says her team's work is accomplished, setting stage for Trump indictment announcement. As many as 18 people could be charged in connection with attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. I ain't mad at the Democrats. I'm not mad. I'm mad at the Republicans. The Republicans in all of these different states and all these different places do nothing. Well, they don't use their power. Even when the right does have power, they don't use it.

They refuse to use it because they don't want to be seen as these right-wing fascist dictators. But the left, they don't care. I don't know to be seen as you know these right-wing fascist dictators but the left they don't i don't believe i don't know i believe that i think that the republicans who are claiming they don't want to be tyrannical are actually just in on it oh yeah well it's a uniparty through and through you know you have a select few people you know congressmen representatives that maybe not be a part of it they were not at the same times yeah there's always going to be conflict and the uniparty is still strong and it's going to stay strong it's just a matter of breaking that up how do you do that where are we at with impeaching joe biden over his obvious and discernible shady business dealings with his son where where are we at there uh it kevin mccarthy said we are now going to begin

the process of beginning an inquiry into impeachment yep so it'll never happen so now now we're at the point where we decided to start the process of asking the question does this rise the level of impeachment which we already know it clearly does but it's just a pony show that's really it all it is is it's just for show it's to give people false hope and say oh look they're fighting back oh yeah i mean he could have been i think he could have been impeached within his first month in office i mean with all the evidence even there was enough evidence with hunter biden yeah but if you want to make an argument that those were pre-biden presidency then okay then afghanistan outright i mean that was such a disaster and utter failure it warrants removal

in my opinion all the stuff that's coming out about burisma and ukraine and stuff that the that's plenty of reason to impeach there's that there's sufficient evidence yeah that just the uh the testimony from uh what's his name last night or whatever the the guest on the show last night no no the uh whistleblower well yeah the whistleblower um i mean joe biden was listening to all the conversations joe biden would call would call all of Hunter Biden's business partners and stuff like that. Associates just to just to be like, hey, I'm Joe Biden. He's actually like he can actually get me to, you know, help out if he needs if he needs help. So you should probably do what he says. That's exactly what it was.

It was it's as it's clear corruption. And I don't know. Like I said last night, I don't have a whole lot of hope in any kind of impeachment or any kind of actual. Republicans don't do anything. Yeah. Even at the state level, what we're looking at with the Fulton County DA, this is local politics. Going after Trump, trying to stop him from being able to run. They don't want an election. The Democrats are doing this because they know they lose.

They will lose if everything is done standard fare. I wonder if they would lose in a landslide because the majority of people are really over the trans and LGBT stuff. Once you touch people's money, it's over. Once you touch people's money, I think that's the biggest indicator. I have left-wing people that I talk to all the time that are suffering financially. That's the biggest hit, I think,

that you can do on somebody is once you mess with somebody's pockets, they're going to notice. I mean, yeah. Ding, ding. I mean, there's sufficient reason for the American people to not like Joe Biden. There is ample reason.

I don't think that he's a popular president. I don't think you need to convince people that Joe Biden has done a bad job. I don't think that's the argument that anyone really needs to make. I think people need to read more history if you look at countries that fall into revolution or civil war. Because what's happening now with the indictment of donald trump the third technically what about the third indictment potentially moving to the fourth this is worse than what happened in some of the you know greater revolutions and civil wars throughout history uh up to a certain point obviously so you know i was reading about the about the revolutions in Russia,

Tsar Nicholas and things like that, the Spanish Civil War, Weimar Germany. And there were things that happened that were considered to be major catalysts of revolution and civil war that were not on par with one leader weaponizing government against his rival political faction to this degree. Some of these major political moments were like a referendum was held and power was transferred from the executive branch to the, you know, to parliament. And it's like that was considered a great revolution and things like that. It was like a tremendous moment happened when the monarchy transferred certain executive powers to parliament for parliamentary decisions. And they call that the great upheaval or something

like that. This is Joe Biden is trying to physically remove his his principal rival because he's losing in the polls well i don't know about because he's losing in the polls i think he would do that even if he was winning the polls well what i mean is like yeah we can we can we can look at the polls and see biden's losing and it would seem that the only reason to really go for trump in this way is because they know they can't win like like i said earlier today i i think that that this is bigger than trump i think that this is about making a statement about people that are outsiders not even really attempting to get into the the office and and and kind of bust your way into the inner circle and try to make changes and make demands i really think that the the the established bureaucracy really hates trump

because he would have made significant changes if he if they allowed him to we got a statement i want to read trump's statement he responded to the indictment he says this is nothing more than the latest corrupt chapter in the continued pathetic attempt by the biden crime family and their weaponized department of justice to interfere in the 2024 presidential election in which President Trump is the undisputed frontrunner and leading by substantial margins. But why did they wait two and a half years to bring these fake charges right in the middle of President Trump's winning campaign for 2024? Why was it announced the day after the big crooked Joe Biden scandal broke out from the halls of Congress? The answer is election interference. The lawlessness of these persecutions of President Trump and his supporters is reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the 1930s, the former Soviet Union, and the authoritarian dictatorial regimes

and other authoritarian dictatorial regimes. President Trump has always followed the law and the Constitution with advice from many highly accomplished attorneys. These un-American witch hunts will fail, and President Trump will be re-elected to the White House so we can save our country from the abuse, incompetence, and corruption that is running through the veins of our country at levels never seen before. Three years ago, we had strong borders, energy independence, no inflation, and a great economy. Today, we are a nation in decline. President Trump will not be deterred by disgraceful and unprecedented political targeting. Well, I don't think, I think we were still in decline. We were just in a bubble.

The Federal Reserve screwed us. 2007 was the obvious example of how we're in decline. We've been in decline since we went on fiat currency. So I can't stand when Trump takes credit for a booming economy when it was a bubble. But that part, other than that part,'s this sounds about right you do not politically persecute your opponents in the middle of an election season the day after your son gets shown for being corrupt i mean this is what they claimed trump was doing they claimed trump was trying to dig up dirt on joe biden and that was impeachable offense. Joe Biden is literally indicting the front runner. And they're like, it's a good thing. These are evil people.

They know what they're doing. They know they are evil. Yeah, I agree with Phil there. Well, it's typical. Blame others of what you're guilty of. That's really what we're seeing here. And they're just going to continue to do so. And the Republicans do nothing.

They're guarding that inner circle of the Uniparty. Like Hillary's still pissed that Trump said you'd be in jail on the state. He humiliated her. Like, she's not going to let that go. She's going to watch till her last day on earth. She's going to be wanting to make that guy's life miserable. And she has a lot of connections and a lot of power in the U S government,

obviously. And that's, I, that's why I get to the point where I'm like, nothing I can do can help this system. Nothing I can do politically can help if I, I don't even want Trump to get elected, but if I want to the point where I'm like, nothing I can do can help this system. Nothing I can do politically can help if I don't even want Trump to get elected. But if I want to, nothing I can do could help him get elected. Nothing.

All I can do is make hit records and maybe people will cry in their sleep and realize that life's not so bad and forget each other. Helping someone get elected is quite simple. If you go to someone and say, register to vote and vote for Trump, you are helping Trump get elected. I just got blackmailed right there. The reason I said, no no i feel like nothing i can do is because i feel like if i got 100 million of a million people registered it would just it doesn't matter because i don't i can't read the vote tally you got to prove to me that that voting system is legit if you're going

to do that in secret then i don't have any evidence that you're doing it right it's like secret ballot has always been the thing in the u.s like well we don't we don't get to see who voted for who yeah but the idea that we take all the ballots send them to a private company that goes behind a black curtain and comes out and says trust us this guy won yep yeah but bs that that that's we can't we can't work that way and so now we're seeing there's been there's been like court rulings overturning these these attempts to stop universal mail-in voting and things like this. If it comes down to ease of access for random people to vote, Democrats are for it. If it comes down to security, Republicans are for it.

I'm neither. I just want like secure. I mean, secure the right way. Sorry to interrupt you. What were you about to say? I just want transparency in my election process. That's security. Yeah.

That's what the right wants, and that's what this whole thing has been about, is we want fair and free elections. We want transparent elections. You have to. But then I could see if the mob truly voted in a psychopath, you want someone behind this curtain being like, uh, psychopaths can't get in or we'll lose everything. Okay, let's... Well, I mean, you look at like if you're actually

talking about a psychopath right like majority of ceos are psychopaths i'd say a good majority of our presidents have been psychopaths because you need that extra edge i mean i i say god you know gifted us psychopaths for a reason granted not a lot of them are great but we need them in society they're a natural occurring let me let me read this tweet from uh jack vasobic he said the trump case has been assigned to u.s. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan. According to the court docket, Chutkan, an Obama appointee, is the only federal judge in D.C. who has sentenced J6 defendants to sentences longer than the government had requested. Very obvious where this is going.

Y'all are in a civil war and people like to ignore it, but just read about the U.S. Civil War, the Spanish Civil War, the Russian revolutions. There was more than one. Read about the French Revolution. More than one. And it's interesting how they kind of like 75 years

to figure out how to like have a proper government. That's the French. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, first they had a revolution and then Napoleon became emperor. Yeah. It's like, oh, another like first they had a revolution and then napoleon became emperor yeah it's like another revolution they had a revolution that went wrong and then

they started killing people that was the big problem that was back before napoleon and then after robespierre was killed there was some turmoil then napoleon was one of them russia he was like i'll take it and the bolsheviks read about russia is particularly interesting failed leadership people were unhappy is a simple way to put it and so you take a look at what's going on now and this reaches the level of historical historical revolution civil war or collapse and it makes sense on the timeline of history because all the cultures of earth are blending now and causing mass chaos in the united states particularly as like the as the front runner so it makes sense that we'd be facing revolutionary pressure or or civil unrest or civil war like pressure it it makes sense that we'd be facing revolutionary pressure or civil unrest

or civil war-like pressure. It makes total sense. Now we've just got to see how do we fortify against it? Because if it's obvious that it's happening, it makes sense that it would be happening, then there's got to be an antidote. But how do you fortify against something when you don't control the institutions? We don't control any sort of power whatsoever regarding the institutions, and the institutions are going to be where the majority of the ideological brainwashing is carried out. you know daily wire is a good example of something that appeared out of uh or like uh angel studios you know that's kind of a new institution that can make whatever movie they want and it'll get put in movie theaters around the world regardless of the gatekeeps that's one way to do it well let's talk about this while they are accusing donald trump

of instigating january 6th we have new evidence as to who actually was behind january 6th and it was ladies and gentlemen joe rogan that's right ray epps's attorney responds to allegations of clients involvement january 6th he said the absurdity of the conspiracy theory does not stand in the way of it being spread and weaponized to harm ray if mr rogan is truly interested in focusing on who instigated the attack on the Capitol, he would find more truth looking at the mirror

than he does in focusing on a wedding venue owner from Arizona. So basically my eyes must have lied to me on January 6th when I witnessed Ray Epps whisper to Ryan Samson and the barriers went down. It must have actually been Joe Rogan doing the whisper in that day.

Ray Epps is on camera yelling at people to go into the Capitol. He's on camera. And then he's on the front line as the barricades are torn down. He was ramming cops. He was holding a barrier that eventually ended up ramming cops. A huge Trump sign that they picked up

sideways and they had rammed it into officers. But that means I can tell you that the dude told people to go in the building and that is on the front line when they breached the capitol grounds that's enough for well and then i remember seeing him multiple times throughout the day on the initial breach you know in the secondary breach i mean right as everything really hit the fan that's when he backed off he just backed off and kind of faded away into the crowd and just watched it all take place so i don't know if any of this proves that he's a fed. A lot of people think he is.

But I do think it's absolutely fascinating that the lawyer is trying to say that Joe Rogan in any way instigated January 6th when Rogan's never even

had Trump on his podcast. And he refuses to have Trump on his podcast from what I'm aware of. I don't know. I don't know if that's I think that's the media exaggerating.

I think it's more like Joe probably doesn't care all that much. I mean, he already has what, the largest podcast in the entire he hasn't had biden on either so he wanted to have him on early early on 2019 or something and then i've heard that he doesn't he's kind of given up he's like i'm not i'm not getting involved with that i don't know it feels like after the spotify deal it's a different show yeah absolutely pre-spotify it was like the craziest alex jones ever and now post spotify it's people he finds interesting and wants to hang out with and just talk to it seems like he

was able to like with a guaranteed revenue stream just make the show about the conversations he wants to have that's but i digress this is the narrative that they that they push right in the indictment against donald trump they say he was spreading false narratives what they're really saying is he spread a narrative that defied the corporate press what they're saying here now is joe rogan speaks a narrative that defies the corporate press therefore you are the enemy you are their enemy and you are the one causing all the problems the solution of, I think is cultural. Anyone that pushes back gets thrown into the basket of deplorables.

Anyone that doesn't totally accept the official narrative, you're cast into the Trump-supporting, racist, bigot, misogynist, sexist, the whole nine. It works, but at the same time, I think it's going to reach a point because it's happening so much more consistently with people that are clearly not Trump supporters, aren't right-wing fascists or what they're being labeled, that you're throwing so many people that don't qualify into this basket that eventually the basket is going to be too full and you're going to be outnumbered because they're turning on their own in a lot of these cases. Also, if enough people speak out against the corporate

media at the same time, people don't get grabbed. It's only when like they'll go after, it's easy to go after individuals after a couple of weeks go by. You're like, all right, that one guy made too much noise about it on Tuesday. But like if everyone's or enough people are just launching about the obvious fraudulence or or mistakes and things it's this is what i'm saying about culture if the culture is you get a million views on tiktok and youtube when you insult joe biden joe biden loses the election that's the culture needs to be built that's why they employ these like young gen z influencers well and they also allow the left-wing influencers on and then immediately allow the left wing influencers on and then

immediately remove the right wing influencers from what i've seen i mean i had a tiktok it was like 260 000 followers it's striked gone it's not even it's not iral's band yeah it's not but it's not launched a new one though it's not just the political people like ronnie radke just got his tiktok uh ronnie radke is the singer of a band called Falling in Reverse. And they're a great band. Massive, massive. He got banned? He just got his TikTok banned because he was talking about trans people.

And I'm not sure exactly what he said. I don't have the stuff in front of me. The trans script? Get it. All right, we're starting. Well, I mean, he was talking about trans people. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he said. I don't know what he said.

And they banned him. And like I said, this guy, I mean, he is fairly controversial in the rock and heavy metal world in that he's a rock star. I mean, I think he threw a mic stand into the crowd one time. And he gets into beef with people on Twitter. And he doesn't do what he's quote unquote supposed to do. But they booted him off of TikTok. And he's not a political guy. He just said something that was politically incorrect. Sounds a lot like the guy sitting right next to me. Well, I mean, I've said some things a rock singer that's ronnie radke's description on uh

fallinginreverse.com i'm waiting to google your name and and see uh you know the right wing label slapped on your wikipedia oh well i don't know about my wikipedia but if you go to any of the metal blogs most of them yeah i've, I've seen those articles before. They don't like me, and I don't care because they're scum. I've never had a TikTok, anecdotally. I don't hate people involved in the Chinese Communist Party. It's a little concerning

to have a uniparty dictating central planning of a system. I don't hate those people. I will never use, I should maybe never say never, but I have no interest in using that manipulative trash TikTok. But you look at the massive reach, though.

TikTok, the amount of views they bring in, it blows other platforms. And anybody can go viral. That's a nice thing about TikTok, but the right needs to use that. That's a sad reality of it. You need the right on TikTok. You need their ideas because that's where young kids, I mean, this is what they do all day. They just swipe and swipe. It doesn't say on your Wikipedia page that you're right-wing,

but it does smear you pretty bad. It says that you're a fan of Taylor Swift. You know, sometimes the internet gets something right. It just says that you're a recurring guest on this show and you're a libertarian or something. That's cool. Moved to New Hampshire to join the libertarian movement. So when you said everyone's got to use

the or you got to use tiktok to get through to the people i feel like that's like saying here if we were in a war or something you're like here use the enemy's weapons that are tracking your every move because they're better weapons yeah but you're going to be tracked regardless look at instagram look at twitter i mean all these are data harvesting companies you're tracked no matter what you have an electronic device in your pocket at all times you know the tiktok isn't going to track you any better than all these other apps that are harvesting the game. It's the CCP that's just the phone. I don't want the CCP to be tracking me.

I think the least of your worries, though, are the CCP, right? Your own government has been weaponized against you right now. They're the ones you should be worried about. Of course, CCP is a threat. I don't know. I think it's much more threatening. The Chinese Communist Party is much more threatening to American civilians. I agree.

And you don't want to be on TikTok because this idea that you join TikTok for the purpose of engaging in that conflict perhaps makes sense to a certain degree. But we want to force the conversation onto the platforms where we have more control. Yeah, I can agree with that. But at the same time, TikTok, you can transfer those, you know, your audience off of that to the necessary platforms like that. I agree. That's actually really hard.

That's why they ban you. Yeah. Well, TikTok, that was my hardest thing is, you know, I had 260,000 followers, but it was the actual return rate to your other platforms. But if you gather enough followers, you get enough engagement, you do get a little bit of return rate there. But you also want to make sure you're on these platforms so you can push back to the extent you're able to push back. There's upsides and downsides, of course, to it all. But I think in the end, you know, it would be beneficial for the right at least to have some sort of presence on the app. Yeah, the only problem with having TikTok is like having it on your phone that you use and it's constantly trying to get into your phone book and stuff like that.

Like that's the problem. Otherwise, like the access and the reach that you can get, there's your phone book and stuff like that. That's the problem. Otherwise, the access and the reach that you can get, there's nothing bad about that. To be honest with you, I wish that Instagram and other social media sites would be a little more forthcoming about how you massage the algorithm and how you make sure to get your stuff in. Because if you go to TikTok and you go to the creator creator's page or whatever they give you it tells you how to give you a list right down the list and you can you can hit all the bullet points and you will go from having no one to having tons and tons of followers you can tiktok is the only platform where you can gain hundreds of thousands of followers in less than 24 hours it's insane it can be great so many people i said i i can't believe,

I don't know if it's real or not. I don't, I don't think it is. Sorry, Phil, were you, I don't think, I don't think it is.

I would not be surprised if they're shoving AI followers down your throat and make Americans think they're getting something out of it. We've talked about it before. The way, the way you start a social media network, anyone can do this right now. Start up, start a social media network, put out advertisements to,

uh, you know, certain age, younger age demographic 18 year olds when they sign up start giving them followers rather quickly fake ones and they feel like they're getting social dopamine hit right over and over then when they post you give them more likes then what happens is 18 year old kid who's a freshman in college or a senior in high school goes to his friends and goes i'm on labonte.com and i've already got 10 000 followers

and they're like you have 10 000 followers like you're on that stupid old school youtube i'm on labonte.com yep and then all of a sudden these other kids are like i want to get followers too and they all start signing up all their followers are fake but this attracts everyone to the platform exactly so i don't believe tiktok's real at this point maybe to a certain degree but i still think you know i'll just put it this way i they they in my opinion there's a strong likelihood that they did something that effect oh absolutely i mean i got it i remember one of my first videos ever was like a million likes it wasn't it wasn't it two different apps before it was called like musically and like lively or something yeah yeah well and it used to be a dancing app musically it was like a lip

syncing dancing app. And then they merged two apps and turned it into TikTok. Do you get paid on TikTok? You can for creator funds, but only if you toe the lines and you're making dancing TikToks. You know, as a political commentator, you're not getting paid for TikTok. So your first video went viral? My first very video, it was when I was painting murals when I was doing activism before journalism, got over a million likes. How soon? How fast?

That was within four days. It was insane. And I went over from, I mean, I think I had 100,000 plus followers after just one video. And then every single video I posted after that, well over, I mean, a million views. It was, you know, there was good engagement, but you don't know if that's real or fake or not at the same time. So there were two apps. TikTok did launch and there was also Musical.ly. They bought Musical.ly and then merged it in and then got rid of Musical.ly. but you don't know if that's real or fake or not at the same time so there were two apps tiktok did launch and there was also musically they bought musically and then merged it in and then

got rid of musically musically was the lip-syncing app yep i knew people who had accounts and they were telling me how i gotta get on the platform because it was way better and they have hundreds of thousands of followers or one person was like i have a million followers and i was like let me pull up the app and i pulled it up and it was like all the comments were just like sweet rad yeah nice the most automated responses ever and i was like i don't i don't think you actually you don't have them yeah but you know the thing is they don't care all they want to do is go to advertisers and be able to say hey look they may be lying i'm not going to say it i'm not going to accuse anyone committing a crime of committing a crime then these these creators and influencers can go to ad agencies and say i

get a billion views per month yep and they'll be like wow what do you want and that's it and you get money that could be a scandal that's uncovered later where we're like wow like yeah i'll tell you about a meeting i had uh with discovery in uh discovery channel in san francisco where we sat down and this is probably 10 years ago. This is probably eight years ago. And they said, what do you think about Facebook? Yeah, this was probably about eight or nine years ago.

What do you think about Facebook videos versus YouTube? And I said, YouTube is clearly where it's at in terms of cultural influence. This is a decade ago, mind you. And then this one guy goes, yeah, but on Facebook, we're getting 10 times the views.

And I'm like, are you really getting the views? Or is someone scrolling past the video and it's adding to the count? Whereas YouTube is someone actually watches the video. And it shows you the average watch time in a much more detail. And in this lunch, it was more than just discovery. I can't remember who said it. It's been like a decade. But someone said something like, you know what?

Ultimately, it doesn't matter because these are the numbers we delivered advertisers yep and so they were like let's just go to the advertisers and say we got a hundred million views and i think there's a lawsuit over this because uh advertisers were advertisers were buying view on face views on facebook for these videos they were buying impressions and they weren't getting delivered anything legitimate i want want like on YouTube, all my subscribers, I want a button that will let me clear anyone that subscribed to me that hasn't logged into YouTube in the last year.

I want them removed. I don't want those numbers. I want real numbers, even if it's less. Yo, Ronnie said that men can't have a period and that's why he lost his TikTok account. Honestly, worth it. Worth it. Good for him. Because he's totally telling the truth. When I got into Mines, we started building free software. I became a bit

of a zealot. I'm just going to stop using the proprietary crap. I'm going to stop using YouTube, stop using Twitter, stop using Facebook. And Bill, the CEO of Mines, convinced me just keep using that stuff. It feels dirty, but it's market research. So maybe there's an argument to use TikTok. I just feel like I'll get banned within a month or two.

Oh, you will be. Talk about free speech. Let's jump to this story from TimCast.com. New 2024 polls show Biden alternately tying with and sliding behind Trump. Despite the possibility of four separate sets of indictments, support for Trump remains strong. This is bad news. They say a key strategy for biden's re-election bid will be branding trumpism and maga threat to america casting trump supporters as far-right

authoritarians as axios described now let me also add personally one tactic of joe biden is to criminally indict his his opponent because clearly he can't win legitimately interactive polls show that donald trump is beating biden by three points among moderate independents he's up nine in swing states trump is up nine this is bad news for joe biden and may explain why they're so desperately going after trump with these indictments because trump's gonna win and you know we had people we had uh you know liam last night he was convinced trump could not win because the deep state would not allow it to happen. And I'm just like, they allowed it in 2016. That is like, is that the argument? In 2016, the deep state went like, oops, Trump won.

Maybe. I think so, because the way he was saying and what I agree with is that now that he said, when I get back in, all of you in the deep state are going to be fired. They're like, OK, this isn't the Trump from 2016. Now it's a different guy with a different motive. And I still don't think it means they're powerful enough to stop him from 2016. Now, it's a different guy with a different motive. And I still don't think it means they're powerful enough to stop him from winning. They can certainly throw roadblocks in the way and try and go up against him and

criminally charge him. Right. But it does not mean... Look, his polls are going to skyrocket because of this. His fundraising is going to skyrocket because of this. They cannot stop him. They're making... They're playing the game in desperation. They're thrashing about as they drown well the reality of it is is all this propaganda and the fake indictments wouldn't

be necessary if they didn't think he could win they would just leave him alone exactly and so what i see with this is as we have tremendous victories with say bud light and things like this on cultural fronts and sound of freedom they are going for the only thing they have left which is raw government power they are losing culturally their shows are getting roasted alternate independent media is starting to rise bud light lost a quarter of its market share from endorsing this stuff not popular nobody likes it trump is his popularity is going up He's improving in the polls. The only thing they have left is truncheons. Do you think that if we replaced a lot of the people in the government that it would work better?

Do you think it's a problem as personnel or is it structure? Both. Eliminate. Well, I'll say this. Well, hold on. You replace a lot of people, it'll be better for sure. You eliminate a lot of positions and departments and replace people we can fix the problem yep okay it's just like with the fbi you can't just get new people you need to gut the

agency figure out what powers they have what powers they don't so and then they can't go out on a rampage like they have been the past two years again but let's uh let's add into the mix the other question in this presidential debate if trump is is indicted and removed, will Ron DeSantis be the nominee? And ultimately, let's just let's just talk a little bit about where Ron DeSantis's campaign is at. And my friends, the latest reporting that's come out about Ron DeSantis's campaign is I'll call it heartbreaking because I think back to the promise we saw with the Ron DeSantis campaign. Somebody who was pushing good culture war policy, who was pushing a lot of the same policies as Trump, but with more tact, youth, and vigor.

And then Ron DeSantis burned it all to the ground. And I do hold him personally responsible. I understand that it's his PR and communications team that are ultimately sinking everything around him. But the fact that he has not fired Christina Pichot at this point, despite every insane error she's made, he's just like, nah, keep doing your thing, even though he's collapsed in the polls. He's basically no longer even in the race. Well, you saw the statement, like the internal statement that was leaked of, what was it?

Hit the brakes on what doesn't work, hit the gas on what does. You think you would hit the brake on Christina Pushbaugh, because this is clearly not working for this campaign. Who said to hit the brakes? Was that DeSantis himself? It was the communications director, you know, basically sending it out to the influencers. This story from Semaphore about Ron DeSantis

blew my effing mind. The video with the son in red the black son was made by his campaign they outsourced the video to a third party and the dude who made it retweeted they fired him threw him under the bus this is the the the the anti-lgbt i shouldn't call that the the video they made criticizing trump's stance on lgbt issues made in-house outsourced so they could have plausible deniability the the the video in which ron desantis is appearing before a spiraling nazi son and rad symbol with soldiers with soldiers marching towards it was made by a camp by one of their staff i believe it was a campaign

staffer and then sent to a third party and retweeted. And we have it here, check this out. The scoop. Senior aides at DeSantis oversaw the campaign's high-risk strategy of laundering incendiary videos produced by their staff through outlet anonymous Twitter accounts, a set of internal campaign communications obtained by some of

four reveals. The videos include two that have created recurring distractions for his campaign. it out they say screenshots of the war room chat reviewed by some of four included staffers praising a widely derided and since deleted video originally posted on an anonymous account ron de santis fan cams that included a version of the sun in red a symbol associated with nazi germany quote this belongs in the smithsonian wrote kyle lamb the campaign's director of research and data before the video blew up in the campaign's face he was among the 38 staffers laid off in recent weeks

amid a campaign reset messages viewed by some before also show members of the war room group actively sharing images to put in the video while it was in the editing process, though not the sun and red symbol that was in the final version. The big issue here that I want to bring up too, check it out. The campaign has never publicly confirmed or denied ownership over the LGBT and sun and red videos, which staffers

retweeted after they were posted by anonymous accounts. They recently fired one aide, Nate Hockman, who shared the latter video and, according to an Axios report, created it. We should have that guy on the show. I wonder if he'll talk. Oh, you know, I bet he would. Let me just tell you, TimCast has reached out, and this is a while ago, to the detainees' campaign to have someone come on the show for a polite, normal discussion, and they refuse. I was just thinking, I think Ron needs less social media presence, but more focused, honest stuff.

But then I'm like, well, why am I thinking that? When I think of Vivek Ramaswamy, I think more social media. More of everything you're doing. Even if they knock Trump out, I don't think DeSantis has a chance. I mean, after everything, his campaign is just crashing and burning day by day worse and worse i think vivek is is the guy i mean if if he steps up vivek seems like a much more optional candidate he's a reasonable here's the thing with a vague someone will the vague yeah like that's what he says someone will accuse him of something and then he will outright address it

he'll make a statement and nobody else is doing that i mean mean, with the WEF stuff, with everything he came out. And then when Trump was raided, he came out and said, this is unprecedented. We can't allow this. He's the only one doing that. I'm going to tell you exactly what I think about the DeSantis campaign. And I'm sure I'm going to piss off a lot of people, but I'm going to say it anyway. I'll tell you what my view is. Some Trump individuals, I don't know who or what the deal is posted a photo

of desantis's team and there was a picture of christina pasha with rug burns on her knees as if to imply something untoward about her this is around the time this whole thing got kicked off where all of a sudden desantis supporters just started rabidly snarling and spitting in people's faces. I think she was emotionally slighted, triggered to the point where she started using the DeSantis campaign as a vehicle for emotional satisfaction against the people who insulted her. I think you're completely right. And the same thing happened again when I think it was Alex Brusewitz, he released a picture, which was clearly a meme with Pushpot. And then it was George Soros sitting next released a picture which was clearly a meme uh with pushpot and then

it was george soros sitting next to him which was clearly photoshopped was he sitting viral there was a picture where it was like in the background yeah or something yeah it was like a clearly photoshopped george soros it wasn't even a good photoshop and then they just went rabid on everybody it seems like and what happens is you've got a handful of people who are like trump influences or whatever who play dirty or whatever and so their their response is to attack any and everyone who dare insult them or even question them in any way the fact that you know what what we've seen with the reaction you know mike cernovich tweeting about it, how the DeSantis campaign has just started attacking everybody. Having talked to a few other people, not Mike, but a few people about what it is, it seems that Christina Pichot, initially they were big fans.

She was working with DeSantis. She was going for the media. She was calling out their BS. And then this rug burn knee thing happened. And all of a sudden it was just like i i look i get it it's like really insulting condescending demeaning misogynistic whatever you want to call it but that was the moment where it seemed like something flipped and now anybody who had a bad word to say was just getting bitten was just getting spat on

and slapped around for it doesn't matter they declared war after that well and after this there's no way that the desantis campaign can succeed because you just marginalized and pushed away all these people that are loyal to trump these people that yeah if trump gets knocked out they probably would have voted for desantis but why would they vote for him now when they've essentially just been i mean hitting on him over and over again there's this like a pro desantis account that appears to have like an ai deepfake avatar whatever has been promoted max nord well that's that's got a family guy character but this one made a like deepfake audio thing of me praising christina pushaw and i'm just like these guys have to be trump supporters because the only the

only outcome of doing something like that is to try and get me angry so that I insult the DeSantis campaign. And that's why I'm like, this has got to be a Trump supporter. Like, make them look bad. False flag DeSantis and trick them into promoting things that hurt their campaign. Or a Biden supporter. Absolutely. Yep, make sure DeSantis can't win. But then I got to tell you, I got to tell you, if Ron DeSantis won't fire Christina Pasha, it doesn't matter if it's an intended to sink his campaign or not. The man cannot deal with his campaign. He cannot operate a campaign. It's good that he fired the people he fired. But I can tell you this. I know some of the people you fired should not have been fired. Some of the people that he fired, he should have promoted and fired the senior staff.

Instead, he laid off some like 38 people. I know some of them and I know they're smart and I know they understand everything I'm saying, but they're the ones who got let go. Ron DeSantis in this capacity has failed miserably. And the person who's led the charge the whole way as they've just crashed and burned, he won't fire. Well, their messaging is absolutely terrible. I mean, they're keeping the people that are like, look at like Jeremy Redfern. I think that's his name, right? After Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed, you know, he came out essentially praising it.

He said, F around and find out. And it's like the messaging does not align with anybody that supports Trump. So how do you expect to garner these votes with keeping these people on your campaign? I think we're learning something about Ron DeSantis. I think we're learning that he barely won in the first place in Florida. Trump's support helped push him over the edge. How did he win so well? I was warning about this, too.

Everyone's saying Ron DeSantis is such a good leader that he won by a million votes. To a certain degree, I agree with that. But I also wanted to point out, as I have since the beginning, you also had mass exodus from many other states of right leaning people or more libertarian leaning people who went to Florida because of the policy and were guaranteed to vote in this direction. And then people can say, yes, but that was Ron DeSantis's leadership. Fair. I agree. I will add, however, it was unobstructed leadership because the legislature was on his side. So he had a clear path to rolling these things out. When it comes to a campaign, he can't fire the people who have failed. Every day it gets worse. At this point, maybe he can recover. I'm not saying he can't.

But when you look at all the polling data, I can't remember who, one major polling agency said at this point in a primary race, no candidate polling at these numbers has ever been able to turn it around. I think his campaign's sunken. I don't think there's any recovering at this point. It kind of makes me sad. Well, and especially, oh yeah, well, and especially after, because I don't think he did good in the Tucker interview either, where he was interviewing the candidates.

He came off as a neocon. I mean, he just seemed like he was kind of a war hawk throughout that entire interview and seemed disingenuous but then you know you have vivek and i think he did the best out of anybody up there he was honest the entire time and his message resonated with people but every other candidate and even desantis i mean after i watched that i was off the desantis train completely because i was like i don't think this guy actually believes in what he's talking about i will i will say this because we got a super chat this guy nathan C says, DeSantis campaign is fine. You guys are projecting for sure. I don't even believe the story. The video came from his staffer.

Any name proof? Yes, Nate Hockman. And I can confirm personally that I have spoken with people within the DeSantis campaign and Hockman did make the video. Don't believe me. Don't care. I am telling you that's where I'm at because I got on the phone with people like, come on, we've been in this space for a very long time. We know many of the people who went to work for Ron DeSantis. In fact, I have DMs with the people in his communication staff and we'd invite him on

the show before. But as soon as his campaign started, they went full corporate neocon, locked locked down told their people not to appear on this show because we were critical of them and i reached out and i said did this guy do it he did it it's publicly known and son of a bitch publicly they fired the guy well they threw him under the bus but but this is all publicly known i mean this is in semaphore and Axios. I don't believe it. But look, if you're going to sit there and be like, this is clearly not true, it didn't happen.

Yo, they deleted the video and fired the guy. Like, come on. Yeah, sounds about right. They did it. It sounds like a leftist just denying basic reality at this point. And, you know, I understand loving Ron DeSantis and everything and trying to back him as your candidate, but there's evidence on all of these things.

There's, there's uncountable evidence. I had a lot of faith that Ron would come by the couple of weeks after he started announced and play ball, like shoot some hoops and then do the show for a couple hours. And it would have been awesome. And we'd see the real guy, hear about his family, what his dreams are for the future, what he did before college, all that cool stuff that you want to know about a guy. If you're going to entrust him with that kind of power to represent you on the geopolitical stage. But unfortunately, week three went by, week four went by, week five went by. They put out that

gross deep fake, and then I've just kind of lost. I have zero faith now in Ron DeSantis. Well, you look at the difference too, socially wise, engaging not just with audiences on stage, but engaging with supporters and fans of you ron desantis is so awkward in person when he does this he clearly has no care in the world to engage he doesn't have charisma when he's engaging with his fans he'll just say two things and then he'll walk off and go do something else but then trump i mean he's sitting there you know signing medal of honor pictures going to fast food restaurants, buying people food. He resonates a lot more culturally than DeSantis does.

DeSantis was a VP pick. DeSantis wanted to be the big dog. He should have been the VP. He could have been the VP to Trump. He could have been the easygoing guy, the younger guy, that would have helped Donald Trump get the votes, especially from suburban women and things like that.

Instead, he says, no, I'm going to be the guy. I'm not a number two guy. Well, now I don't think he's ever going to be the guy even in Florida again. I mean, at this point, well, I mean, he's turned out. Yeah, I mean, he's he's going to be done in politics. I think I think this is a career killer for DeSantis because you try to take the helm from clearly who was the nominee. And there's no question about it.

Instead of just playing ball and helping the country, you know, in a state of, I would say, great need. Let's jump to a with a hard segue to war. Ladies and gentlemen, from The New York Times, drone again hits a Moscow building housing Russian ministries. This was in the wee hours of the morning. But you know what? I got to admit, I don't care all that much because this is not the story you should pay attention to this is the

story you should pay attention to hey why don't you read that ian we need the subject says a limited military draft i just didn't want people to say that i'm the one saying that because i don't think we do we need military.com we need a limited military draft. We then have the Council on Foreign Relations, the uncertain future of the U.S. military's all volunteer force from July 18th, 2023, which concludes that we're going to need a new Gates Commission to figure out how we how we deal with this. Joe Biden has called the ready reserves and select reserves to be deployed to Europe over what's what's going on in Ukraine. And this operation has been ongoing since 2014. Oliver Stone says he regrets voting for Biden because Biden's leading us into World War Three.

You've now got and it's not just these two op eds, more calls for a military draft. And you know what? The only thing I can say is I really look forward to seeing Harry Sisson on the front lines making TikTok videos. Yeah. Because they ain't drafting the 37-year-olds first. Well, don't be so pie in the sky, man. If it hits the fan, we're all on the chopping block. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know. But what I'm saying is it'll be a good year or so before they draft a 37-year-old over the 20-year-old. What pisses me off is that Biden gave that COVID vaccine vaccine mandate across the military a bunch of people resigned or got kicked out and now they're like trying to pull their pants back up because they crap their diapers and like well and they're naming well they don't but i will add to that too and the insane woke policy stuff there were a bunch of things the biden administration and millie and others had done which decimatedimated our numbers. Forcing people to resign or just not want to enlist at all.

Oh, what were you going to say, Tim? What was that? Did you have something you were about to say, too? Oh, well, I mean, you're not going to send me to the draft. I'll tell you that right now. I'm going to die before I go and fight for... How old are you? I'm 23, so I'm the prime age, right? Well, but you're not first in line. Yeah, not first in line, but at the same time it's interesting because they've purged all

these, you know, right-wing extremists from the military. They've really been focused on that. But those guys are the guys that are fit. Those guys are the guys that are willing to fight. Allegedly. My friend, Taylor. Okay, you're 23? Yeah.

How tall are you? I'm six foot. You're six feet tall? Yep. How much do you weigh? 178. 178. And you work out?

A lot. You lift? Yes. Yeah. Do you think they're going to choose one of these soy boys, little five foot five weak noodle armed Antifa guys? Or do you think they're going to be like, I want that guy? I'm the prime candidate, but that's what I'm saying. I mean, you're not going to get me.

You're not going to get me. Regardless of what you do, I will die defending my right not to go to war for the military industrial complex, especially in Ukraine. I'll tell you that. In 10 years, it's going to be, it won't much matter, like the physical fitness of the person because they're going to be piloting drones.

And wearing super soldier exoskeletons and stuff. Have you seen exoskeletons? No, you're not going to wear it. They're not going to wear it. Why would you send a person in? It's mostly for logistics. Well, and think about the generations that have been raised on video games too.

That's perfectly in sight with the technology that the U.S. military uses. That's literally what they're prepping you for, essentially. And granted, I love video games, but you're exposed to the violence for a reason. You're exposed to doing drone strikes on people for a reason because they're basically prepping and grooming this younger generation into accepting war. I used to fantasize about fleeing to Canada, man. My dad was sucked into Vietnam and it annihilated pretty much everything in his life, along with his cousin and God knows however many members of that generation.

He'd always tell me about the horror of war in an unjust draft. And I knew it was a dark fantasy of what would I do? I'd have to flee. I'm not going to go die on some battlefield for some oligarch. I got too much to give to this earth. For Joe Biden? No, no, no. I'll defend to flee. I'm not going to go die on some battlefield for some oligarch. I got too much to give to this earth. For Joe Biden?

No, no, no. I'll defend this country. I'm here. That's what the military is for. The future of war is going to be those Boston Dynamics robots. The dogs. I mean, Black Mirror got it right. They've already mounted machine guns to those dogs.

Those little robot dogs. I think that in biological warfare, everybody talks about nukes this, nukes that. Why would you use nukes when you can use something that is essentially untraceable? I mean, you see with the COVID lab leak, that's the future. It's not so much that. It's a nuclear weapon destroys the city. Yep. But we want the city.

We want the city. We want the resources. We want the coal, the ore, the uranium, whatever. We honestly want the civilians. Bio weapon. And so. We want their civilians to be part of our country. Well, that's the thing.

You get the DNA of certain political leaders and their families, and you engineer bioweapons that only target them. And then the virus can infect tons of people and nothing happens. But then all of a sudden, these particular individuals just... Yeah, that was great that RFK actually mentioned that, although he did get taken out of context. But genetically engineered bioweapons that take out certain types of human. Didn't they say that he was being an anti-Semite because of that clip?

Yeah. Is that the clip that they tried to accuse him of? They were quick. So ridiculous. He made a noise. Amplify it back at him. He told the truth. Oh.

He made a noise. Yeah. So you think that humans are not going to get, like, it's not going to be as human on human warfare? It'll be like from above by robots and like, we'll just be watching. Yeah. I think sending in a wave of those Boston dynamics robots is look,

a nuclear weapon will destroy the city. We, but we want to own the city. We want their resources and we want to subjugate them. It may just be easier to unleash a virus that targets a specific genetic profile because we you sure you might want the civilians but if you want to win the war just erase the country and just like that even if you go down like the the physical you know human on human kinetic route

you're you're going to end with robots and all these things right there's going to be humans thrown in the meat grinder yeah it's not going to. It's not going to be robots on robots. It's going to be robots slaughtering humans. It's going to be machines run by humans slaughtering other humans. There's no reason to wear an exosuit. Did you ever see that short film about drone warfare?

It was just like 10 minutes about a guy giving a TED talk about a drone or something like that. It's people running from building to building trying to dodge these flying drones with machine guns that are killing anything that moves. Well, you've seen the videos out of Ukraine and Russia. I mean,

their drone warfare. Have you looked at, have you seen any drone footage? I've seen it's like, it's scary. They're not big. You can't even see them a lot of the time. Flying,

flying bombs. Yeah. Targeting your GPS coordinates. You see dudes just like like like this like begging begging not to drop the bomb and they just drop it and then there's that one video they released where there's a guy cowering in a foxhole yep and then the drone is pointing down and you see the bomb just fall and then boom and then the guy starts groaning and like struggling moving again yeah well and it's and those videos are i mean they're everywhere

i'm glad they're everywhere they are everywhere but it shows the realities of war and then there was that one video of the ukrainians i think it was like their their trans tifa force or whatever in that minefield and they all got their legs blown that one video of that guy jumps off the back of the truck and he's just ready to land and kneel and he lands on the on the thing well then they go and try and help their their friends you know that are down And then they hit it the same thing too. They hit another mine. I mean, and the end of it, they all end up having, I mean, they're missing limbs.

Dude, the guy lands on the landmine. He gets his legs blown apart and he immediately starts tourniqueting himself. Like it's just horrific. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is, I think the realities of war need to be broadcasted, but there's a reason why they aren't.

Any regular person sees any of these videos is going to disgust them because frankly, war is the most evil and disgusting thing that you can do on this entire planet. I mean, humans killing each other for what? For the idea that their leaders are right and that the international conflict is justified. I don't think any international conflict is justified. I mean, when you have people murdering each other, because that's exactly what this is, I don't see how anyone can say, oh, yeah, I'm going for Ukraine or I'm going for Russia.

No, both sides are at fault. They're both murdering people. I understand resource grabs. It's not good, but if one country doesn't have enough food and the other one has more than enough and then they're coming and invading to take the food. Trade works way better than war. It does.

But then you need a common language. You don't need one, but it sure helps. You need a common culture in order to take the food. Trade works way better than war. It does. But then you need a common language. You don't need one, but it sure helps. You need a common culture in order to keep sustained trade. You don't need it. There's been cultures that were very different and have managed to trade with each other and remain very different cultures and still live peacefully side by side with each other.

Simply put, we don't have to keep killing each other. This Russian thing is about a port. It's a land grab because they want a trade route and you can't buy a trade route i mean they technically could buy the land off ukraine for 700 trillion or whatever whatever the value over the next 80 years yeah they need access to that yeah they need east 105 transporting it over land that freeway down to crimea and and i don't know if there's an economic they could buy it you could sell it to them but at this point it's just rubble i mean i don't know do you know much about what's going on is the don could sell it to them. But at this point, it's just rubble. I mean, I don't know.

Do you know much about what's going on? Is the Donbass just leveled? Is it just mud fields? I mean, a lot of things are just completely leveled over there. It is... Seriously, there's a reason why... There's so many videos out there

in these... Especially Telegram. Telegram is the biggest distributor of these videos. That's where you really see the uncensored stuff. You put it on Twitter and it gets censored even on Twitter

because you're not supposed to see these things. I mean, it's brutal. It's the realities of life and the realities of following these dictators orders. I mean, and, you know, I don't agree with Putin doing a land grab. I don't agree with Zelensky casting out Catholics and Christians. I don't agree with any of this. I think everybody's in the wrong. There's better ways to go about. I mean, trade deals. Right. It's the perfect example. You don't have to kill each other. Just come to an agreement, come to a price and give each other something that benefits

both of you. That's the reality of how the world is supposed to work. But instead, they'd rather just murder each other because that's where the money's at. And it's sad. I mean, it's truly heartbreaking, especially I have a lot of friends that have come back from Iraq and these other war torn countries. and they went there thinking they were bringing democracy to these people. And then they get there, they are told to dehumanize these people, they kill these people, and then they realize, oh, these people don't want democracy. They're literally openly saying they don't want democracy. This is a different culture. And then the guys come back, the VA doesn't take care of them. It's the most disgusting

thing I've ever seen. They swap them providers. And then these veterans kill themselves because they have to deal with the fact that they were sent over to murder people under the guise of restoring democracy. I want to jump back to politics because Vivek Ramaswamy issued a statement three hours ago and just announced he's filed a

lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Justice for failure to respond to his foyer request to uncover what white officials including joe biden communicated to merrick garland and jack smith about uh let me read it about um about the unprecedented indictment in the classified documents case a former u.s president and one of biden's political opponents in the 2024 presidential election. I'm also filing a separate FOIA request with the DOJ to uncover any similar communications relating to the just-issued January 6 Trump indictment. We should demand accountability and transparency. In U.S. v. Alvarez, Supreme Court held that political candidates have a First Amendment

right to knowingly make inaccurate statements. If you're going to indict a former president and leading presidential candidate, it better not be based on unprecedented legal theory. Further, it's much more than a stretch to call something criminal if someone is seeking legal counsel from their own lawyers. Jack Smith has created a dangerous precedent by criminalizing the behavior of Trump's lawyers who offered him legal advice, labeling them co-conspirators instead. This jeopardizes the future of our legal system. If we fail to admit the truth january 6 will just be a preview of far worse to come we must reunite this country but the path

forward will not be easy i want to play the video uh i assume it's probably a different statement but let's uh let's play it it's another sad moment in our country's history the 45th president of the united states donald trump has yet again been indicted by the Biden DOJ, a political party in power that is now repeatedly using police force to indict and arrest and potentially eliminate its political opponents from competition. This is a politicized prosecution. It is a political persecution through prosecution. Now in a third indictment, just in a matter of months against the person who is still at present, the lead contender in the Republican primary for U.S. president. I want to be very clear.

I am running for U.S. president in that same Republican primary. It would be easier for me if Donald Trump were eliminated from competition. That's not how I want to win. This is not about politics to me. This is about first principles. We do not want to become a country where the party in power is able to use banana republic-like tactics to eliminate its political opponents. Yet I'm sad to say that's exactly where we are. The allegations in this indictment fall flat. It is wrong and incorrect and inaccurate to place blame for what happened on January 6th

at the feet of Donald Trump. I said this at the time. I've said it ever since then. I continue to say it today. I would not have made the same judgments that Donald Trump did in how he handled that day. But that's different from saying that he committed a crime. He did not. He specifically told the protesters that day to behave peacefully. The First Amendment in this country gives political protesters

the ability to express themselves and their opinions freely. Donald Trump was not responsible for what happened on January 6th. You want to know what was responsible? I said this in the days after January 6th, 2021, just as I say it today, systematic, pervasive censorship in this country. That was after a year where we had told people across this nation that you had to stay locked down in your house, in your basement and shut up, sit down, do as you're told. If you question that, you're racist, you're anti-science, your social media accounts were silenced. You had to stay home and lock down unless you were part of BLM or Antifa, in which case it was perfectly fine to roam the streets of this country and burn many of them down. That was the double standard that then applied and said that if you said the virus

originated in a lab in Wuhan, you were again a racist and had your internet accounts shut down. You were then told you had an election where you could express yourself to put the right person in charge of fixing these problems. And instead, your accounts were suppressed. If you sent a mere message saying that the Hunter Biden laptop story from the New York Post was real, you had your accounts locked. Even the New York Post was real. You had your accounts locked. Even the New York Post had its own account locked. And if you repeatedly then tell people they cannot speak, that is when they scream. If you repeatedly tell people they cannot scream, that is when they tear things down. And I think we are making a grave mistake in this country by trying to pin the blame for that at the feet of one man. If we refuse to learn our mistakes from our mistakes in the past,

we are doomed to suffer an even worse fate in the future. I worry that will create a country where January 6th, 2021 was a friendly parlay compared to what's actually to come. I'm running for president to make sure we don't march towards some kind of national divorce. But the first and most important step that we as candidates can take in this race is to speak and speak forcefully on the side of principle to say that even if we're competing against Donald Trump, as I am, I do not want to see him eliminated from competition using these politicized tactics it is wrong for our country it is wrong for our future i call on my fellow candidates to condemn it and i call on president biden to do the right thing and drop these politicized charges that's going to be a

first step towards uniting our country so did did Vivek just step into second place in the Republican primary? Yes, dude, I hope so. Holy smokes, that was really well done. He did the exact same thing. I mean, not the exact same thing when the Mar-a-Lago raid happened. I mean, this guy is a winner right here. And where's Ron DeSantis' video? Where's that at?

Where is him condemning this? It doesn't exist. I'm not going to, you know, I'll try and avoid comparing him. Let's just like, that was a very, very well done video. That's professional. He's just talking to the camera. I don't think there's a script there. I mean, I'm just looking at the whole production and I'm like, this guy knows.

Partway through, I was like, I got to see him and Obama get together and talk geopolitics because this guy is the president. This is the guy. He is the right wing version of Obama, but I think he's actually genuine. I think that's the big difference. But the way that he is able to word things, it's a talent. I mean, he is very gifted. He's a businessman, just like Trump is.

He's an outsider. And I can see why people see him as a threat. You know what else he is? His family is Indian. And I'm not big into identity politics, but you want to talk about an ally in the 21st century, it's India. It's the United States and India. If you're concerned about China, if you're talk about an ally in the 21st century it's india it's the united states and india if you're concerned about china phil's getting phil always

gives me his luck whenever the chinese and the russians and communism you want india india is the final piece of the if india sides with the communist party asia is a deafening roar if india and the united states are allied that could be one of the most powerful peace bringing uh unions in the world totally hear you trump uh had a meeting was it modi at the time was that it was and and trump they love trump but vivek's an american citizen who was no his parents were born in india i know but he was born yeah but as i said as his parents he's got indian heritage his parents were from india and i'm not into the identity stuff a white guy from south dakota could be a better indian diplomat you know than vivek but his parents are indian i'll tell you why he's hindu like this is

a good opportunity to bridge and blend some gaps i've had people say they don't trust him or whatever but i'm like the dude sat down in front of me and outright said he thinks there should be some kind of civic test for people to get the right to vote amazing and i'm just like i agree with you we've talked about that on the show but the idea that someone running for office would say something like that that's like every every advisor no no no don't say that because you're gonna lose you're gonna lose voters in this demographic or that demographic and he was like he sits back and he's like i don't know they'll probably get mad at me for saying this but we got to have some kind of test or or qualifier for voting in this country. I love the fact that he's at least thinking about the ramifications

of an ignorant population being manipulated by social media companies, corporations, the government itself, whatever. I love the fact that he's like, look, people are going to be manipulated to some degree, so we need to do what we can to make sure that the people that are voting actually care about voting because i've honestly i truly believe that there are far more people that will get upset if you tell them that we're going to take away the right of your your to vote, then we'll go out and vote, right? Like there are way more people that are like,

I want the right, even though I have never and will never get my ass off the couch and go out and vote. And the simple idea that anybody can vote is actually absurd. The fact that you don't have to take just a simple civics class so you can at least prove that you know the bare minimum about government yeah i mean that you're voting in is insane to me i don't know how and i so i'm not going to make a prescription as to the way to ensure that the people voting and not only have a stake and and and have actual uh you know concern about the the policies and stuff beyond just voting for you know to put their hands in the

government's pockets but the idea that you need to have some kind of qualification or at least prove that you have that you care about where the country's going not just

you care about being able to stick your hand into the government's coffers. I think that's something that's worth talking about. Let's take a look at the betting odds here. It's from RealClearPolitics, RCP betting average. And you can see Ramaswamy, since he entered, has just been climbing and climbing and climbing. He's currently at 14 cents in the prediction markets. Donald Trump has seen a major spike.

But interestingly, when they started tracking this in January, Ron DeSantis was in the lead. That means if you were to have bought shares in the prediction market of Ron DeSantis in January, you'd have lost. You're hurting. We're talking 80% of your bet. Even Donald Trump improved.

But I think Ramaswamy i think you know we've already seen him tie in some polls for a second and we've seen in the prediction markets he's tied for a second i think i think you give it a week especially with this statement yep scott adams just tweeted something like is it just me or did he did he do that without notes there was that one point where he accidentally forgot to say the word from and then quickly caught it. I noticed that and I'm like, he doesn't have a script. When I heard that, I'm like, there's no script there.

You see how well spoken he is. A guy like this doesn't need a script. He said, if we don't learn our mistakes, if we don't learn from our past mistakes, so he misspoke the word. It makes you believe he's more genuine because he's not going off a script like every one of these other politicians unless he's so smart he has a prompter but he intentionally i doubt it he talked to me like that 37 years old yeah

the guy's amazing dude he's very got that i don't know a few months older than me i like i almost want him to like join the uniparty just to get in so that he can become the brilliant visionary and alterator that we need but i i don't want to see him get lost to the uniform but that's what happens when you become president you become the leader of the military industrial complex and he's willing he knows he's going to get changed he said that to you tim on the culture war he's like i i'm gonna go in there i'm gonna be a different person after eight years i know i'm willing i was saying that i thought he could not win trump's the clear front runner trump will Trump will be the nominee. At this point, I'm thinking like

Vivek has defended the right principles. He's defended Trump. He's spoken clearly and truthfully and honestly. He's addressed every question put before him. I'm extremely impressed with him. And I think he's in second place. Like the polling's going to come out, but I think

he's in second place. I think that for a lot of Trump supporters, if Trump is forcefully removed from the ballot to the point where there is no choice a lot of these guys are going to vote for ramaswamy yeah even trump likes him trump's spoken very highly of him and and at this point with that i'm like i could see him being vp if if he said he didn't want to do it he didn't want they all say that they do you have to say you don't want to yeah otherwise they'll just put you there. I mean, that's what I was talking about earlier. I think he'd be the perfect VP for Trump.

The perfect person to level Trump out, you know, almost a pence, but much better, significantly better in every single way. And he's Hindu, so Christians will support him. I mean, there's a lot of parallels between these. As long as they're religious,

they have basic values, you're going to get the votes. I feel like he, like Vivek, will just make social media posts nonstop as VP if he was VP and just piss Trump off so bad because he's got different ideas. Although Trump's a listener, like Trump has a really good memory. That's, I think, one really good quality about him. He has a great memory and he's a good listener.

Apparently, he seems like a very good listener. I think he would benefit greatly from having somebody like Vivek with him because he can, I mean, you'll see in his past administration, he had bad people around him and those bad ideas were reflected a lot through his administration. But you put someone like Vivek around him. These ideas are good ideas. Yeah. Granted, not all of them are, but he has better ideas than almost anybody. I mean, I would argue this is the best candidate that I relate to more on a personal level.

I wonder if anyone, I wonder if Vivek's real strategy is auditioning for the role of VP. I think so. I do think so. No, but think about it. Trump doesn't care who you are. Trump's the kind of guy who's run multiple businesses. Vivek runs a business right up to a half billion dollars or multi-billion dollars. He's a guy

who knows how you get the job. And I'm wondering if Vivek is like, you can't go and apply to be VP. You can't walk up to Trump and say, trust me, just trust me. No, no, no. You get out there. You prove it. Trump's seen it.

Trump likes him. This race will happen. Vivek handles everything masterfully, defends Trump masterfully. And then when it comes down to the primary, Trump wins. Vivek smiles, shakes his hand, and Trump says, I think you're the guy. I think that's honestly the only roadmap for Trump to win as well. I think if Trump picks just about anybody else, I don't think there's really a possibility for him to reach other voters

that he wasn't able to reach before. I mean, granted, his votes are going to go up because of the economy and everything else, but Vivek is the guy to garner those votes that he wouldn't regularly obtain. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, post that URL wherever you chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel.

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grow up they're always great i would say a month i would say like every one weekend three hours a day no you stay on that farm yeah for one month you go and stay on a farm and you do general farm work once you start getting up early i mean mean, that's training in and of itself. The work ethic, too. That's what makes men, and that's what makes people... I mean, you look at the farm kids, right? They always end up more right-wing.

They always end up holding their values and not straying away from them. Hard work is what ingrains people to have good morals. I genuinely believe in that. And even with sports, football, baseball, all these American sports, it's not about the sport.

It's about the values that you teach through those sports. Three months. Yes. No, that's too long. No, no. Three months is a season.

You have to be there at least out of season. Send kids to farm for three months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, man. In order to graduate, I already hate public school.

Jeez. In order to graduate, you have to actually do something within the real world because farming isn't just picking grapes or something. There's financial elements to it. The shipment's coming in at 6 a.m.

It's real world training. If the crops fail, so do you. And look, we're not saying you work 30 hours, you know, 24 hours a day. 30 hours a day. I'm exaggerating. You work an 8-hour shift. Just a farmhand. You just help out? Exactly. You work 8 hours a day like any normal job. You basically just have for 3 months a summer job. Right. There work an eight-hour shift. Just a farmhand. You just help out? Exactly. You work eight hours a day, like any normal job.

You basically just have for three months a summer job. That's it. That's what I'm thinking. A summer job for three months, and you get paid. I think they should get paid a stipend, and then once the summer is over, they'll be like, I went on the summer camp, and I worked a summer job. Whoever sent that super chat's a real one.

Then when you get out, you've learned a whole bunch about how the farm works, about how finance, shipments, delivery, packaging, you learn where the product is going. You make money. So when you leave, you'll have a couple grand. You're like, I graduated from high school. I got a couple grand. I put in my bank account.

I'm off to a good start. That's a great idea. The Rockefeller school system, it's designed the way it is for a reason, right? It's for factory workers. Yeah, exactly. Eight-hour shifts, wake up too early before your brain's fully functioning. I mean, we see it over and over again. But that would significantly not just fix the school system,

but fix the values in this country. That's a really great idea. It's an antidote to factory farming. Yeah, literally is. Do something beneficial, not sitting in a factory all day. All right. No, just abolish the Department of Education. I agree.

Let's read some more. We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I liked Pasha at first. A lot of spit and fury. She was fiery, but mostly peaceful. Now she's basically

the female version of Brooklyn Dad. Yeah. I've kind of been not looking at her much because I still have faith or hope that she'll come on the show

or Ron will come on the show maybe, but I don't know. Well, and see, I agree with him. I really liked Pasha off she had a lot of potential she was handling the media masterfully and then all of a sudden i mean that that picture comes out with her red knees and next thing you know it's just hellfire over and over again from her and the santas campaign all right coldy lock says trump getting hit with his charge is like clinton deleting emails of documents she shouldn't have had.

Both situations are bullet and shouldn't have been happening. Them charging Trump is going to be bad for the unity of America. Completely agree. The bag man says World War Three will happen. So Trump will lose 2024 election and we'll all go to the Dark Ages. I have never been wrong in my life. All right. Good luck, sir.

Skylar Pearson says, Tim, your voice is so dynamic that deepfake of you sounded so flat and uninteresting, like a 1980s talk show host version of you. Yeah, we were talking about this. Like, if you put Joe Rogan in that voice deepfake thing, it nails it.

And it's weird. There's a few other people that it really gets, but for some reason it just does not get in my voice. Well, you do a lot of different tones when you speak. I think that's the biggest thing, it nails it. And it's weird. There's a few other people that it really gets, but for some reason it just does not get in my voice. Well, you do a lot of different tones when you speak. I think that's the biggest thing, is your tone changes and your demeanor changes consistently through your sentences, so it's harder for AI to track that. But Rogan, he's just flat.

It's hard to impersonate Joe Rogan, but the AI seems to get him. You know? Yeah, he'll kind of talk like... Nah, it's hard to get. you know what do i do that uh you know kind of talk like that no it's hard to get yeah he doesn't have like the thrill the version of him doesn't have a thrill to his voice donald trump had he's nasally yep so you have to push your tongue up against the back of your mouth to get that nasally when you're talking right and there's there's certain characteristics of like dr fauci that you can just hone in on you don't

need to be wearing two masks but definitely exaggerate two is a you don't need to so i can hear like trump trump was hard for me to figure out for a while i don't think it's particularly super good or whatever i just got some of the characteristics your nancy pelosi one's my favorite but that one's intentionally insulting donald trump is it disgusting yeah it's meant to you know but uh like with joe rogan i cannot figure out how to speak that way i just it's just like it's not it doesn't exist in the realm of whatever my my shows yeah he's got like a jovial kind of like no no it's like the sound of his voice and the way he speaks it's just like in the back of the cheek kind of up by the jaw. It's the HGH and TRT. Impossible for me to get. And I've seen a lot of cartoons

where they try to impersonate Joe, and they just make him talk like this. And I'm like, Joe doesn't talk like this. He's got like a Boston accent that's been kind of muted. Maybe that is something if you want to catch it.

All right, let's grab some more super chats. All right. Hank Fett says, if they are successful in getting trump off the ballot and run unopposed do you think anyone on the right among his supporters or the republicans will do anything to oppose it or is it over for us now i think it's i think everything just falls apart you got to use different systems but fighting that thing that oligarchy is not the

way i i i can't imagine they actually remove trump from the ballot because it's unprecedented. And who does it leave on the ballot? Are they just going to eliminate the Republican Party from the ballot in all these different states? It would be Vivek. And maybe he would win and become the greatest president of all time. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know.

Could you imagine if Trump said vote Vivek? It would be crazy. I mean, I suppose if he got arrested, I can't imagine a context where Trump would do that. I mean, I think the ego is a little bit too big with Trump. Even if he is arrested and died and everything. I mean, I think he's still going to say, they robbed me. Vote me in. He'll tell people to write me in.

He'd be like, write me in. And then so that if you write me in, then I can myself when i get in that would that would be the thing i can't imagine trump being like oh yeah you should totally vote for vivic max reddick says tim i know that you have known david packman for a long time you should ask him to come on irl and discuss biden and the quid pro quo oh god uh here's my prediction uh i like david i've known for a long time he's cool i think he's wrong about a lot of things uh i think i also think that he sometimes intentionally lies i think if he came on this show it would literally be just him saying like i didn't know that i didn't know that i didn't know that over and over and over again so like by all means we can invite him on the show but you know i'll give you an example he had a a video clip where there was a question asked of Ted Cruz.

Do you think that Ukraine interfered in the U.S. elections? I think that's what it was. And Ted Cruz says something to the effect of like the New York Times reported that they did. And so did Politico magazine. And then you hear a producer bust out laughing on NBC with like it was like Chuck Todd or something. And then David Pakman starts laughing as well. And I'm like, did you Google this? Because the New York Times did report that Ukraine interfered in the U.S. election.

And Politico did report that. So it's not a question of whether I believe it. I don't know that Politico reported. Do you agree with Politico? Do you think they're lying? Like I thought Politico were your boys, but now they aren't. But so if David Pakman's response to like a fact based news report from a liberal leaning publication is to laugh at them, I can only just say like he doesn't know what's going on at all. And if he does, he doesn't care.

Yeah, it's reality. The point of the laughing was to delegitimize. It wasn't that it wasn't to address. Right. But that implies David Pakman is willfully manipulating his audience to help democrats win yeah yeah absolutely yes i guess i like him i mean i think he's kind of a a normal guy that cares a lot about politics but normal guy that lies a little bit too much i've never seen him lie directly i'll send you a link personally but, but okay. If he lies, then so be it.

But I would still be willing to. It's been 15 years coming, David. Get over here. It'd be a better show for the Culture War podcast. We'll invite him out. But I also say this. David hosts his own show. It is very difficult and to a certain degree unreasonable to ask someone, hey, stop doing your daily show

to come do mine instead. It's like, oh, come on. It's not fair. You've got to hit a grand slam if he's gonna come by which we got you got to figure something out there but if they if he wants to come on uh you know hasan as well culture war show would be fantastic son will never come my boy 10 i mean 100 feet you got to manifest that he will well i'm gonna be i'll be completely honest like the reason hasan won't come on this show is because

he doesn't know enough about any of this stuff right he just acts like he does and his audience eats it yes yeah and uh david packman i i genuinely believe david beckham might actually come on the show kyle kalinsky would for sure do it kyle's a real a good dude i really like kyle kalinsky uh he would definitely come on the show it's just with kyle we've talked to him before and it's like he's like hey i host my own show i'm kind of, but we'll try and find time to make it work. I'm like, that'd be so cool. We're fans. But it's funny because, you know, Kyle's a lefty guy.

Jimmy Dore is a lefty guy. Jimmy Dore, of course, is very anti-establishment. But there's no issue with getting these honest actors when they're, like, Jimmy Dore's wrong about some stuff. Totally cool. I love Jimmy. And Kyle Kulinski's great. But they're just like, yeah, I'd love to come Totally cool. I love Jimmy and Kyle Klincy is great,

but they're just like, yeah, I'd love to come out. We try to find time to make it work. These other guys who are a bit duplicitous are always just too busy and just can't make it work. It's weird how that works. It's the guys that are honest, but maybe wrong in their views are willing to discuss them. But the guys that are dishonest and they know that they're obviously wrong in their views

and that they can't answer the questions when pushed about it, they're never going to come on. Let's read some more. Powder PZ says, Tim, I said it when I called in a few weeks ago. This will be the last election. I don't know. Let's say that like an election happens in 2024 and it's hard to know whether it is actually an election.

When we say election, we mean free and fair and two two candidates argue, and then the people make their decision. And we don't feel like 2024 is going to be like that. If Trump wins, there will be an election in 2028. Yeah. They'll clean the voter rolls. If Trump wins, they clean the voter rolls, they clean up election security,

you vote on election day as per the Constitution, one person, one vote, etc. All that stuff happens, and then an election happens, just like normal. One person, one vote, etc. All that stuff happens. And then election happens. Just like normal. 2028. If Joe Biden wins, however, I'm not so sure what happens. I feel like they're setting us up for a one world government. And they're like, we cannot let go of the power right now.

I mean, you look at the UN agenda, you see all the one world governments. It is coming into fruition. Absolutely. The UN, and that's part of what the whole uh um what cbdc that's part of the reason why they they want to have a cb cbdc so that way they can control the money because they the the ngos like the un the uh wef um the international international monetary fund stuff like that they would like to see the governments of europe and the united states of west have far more control over the people and they would eventually they would like

to see a one world government i mean that's always been the plan it's been the plan since day one travis delaney says vivek was on david packman today and vivek called him out for making lazy arguments watch all right he just keeps getting better and better i was literally driving to when i was driving in today i was listening to vivek and uh david packman on the adam but it was adam and sitch great show those guys are great yeah adam and sitch how did it how did it how did it seem should we should we should we check it out well i mean it was how long was it it's like with adam and sitch their stuff is usually multiple hours no but i mean like do you know how long vivek and packman's thing was

I don't know no I'd imagine it was probably decently long I also was on Adam and Stitch's show I called him Adam and Stitch

yeah sorry buddy it's Stitch like situation yes now you know let's read some more let's grab

what do we got Waffle Sensei says only three indictments I want my president to have 100 indictments when we elect him in 2024 it will be bigly

I mean at this rate you might get that honestly careful what you wish for they let sam finkman freed out they dropped one of his charges yep iggy the incubus says let's say none of the lawfare stops trump they already shattered precedent by indicting him assassinating presidents is more normal for these people yeah but as much as like rfk's mentioned that we're we're well beyond that because we've talked about it quite a bit. They canonize. They make martyrs of these people. And so physical assassinations have gone away, except in the most extreme circumstances, like, say, Libya or Iraq.

Now it's all about destroying someone's character so that no one can look up to what they propose. They also do subtle stuff, like a heart attack gun. The CIA working on that. They don't want it to look like an assassination. Plane crash. I mean, it's very easy with the technology we have now to make any death look like an accident. Alex Jones was saying he was afraid that it would be Trump would go down on a plane crash. Well, I mean, and I'm still waiting for, I mean, there's that one Simpson scene, man, where you got Trump in that coffin in his famous suit.

I feel that they're right pretty consistently. I feel dirty about this man because, Donald, you don't deserve this kind of crap, dude. Me talking about, fantasizing about all that. No, man, you do you, dude. All right. Kyle Miller says, I find it funny that Tim thinks Harry, Chris, or any TikTok for Biden is going to be drafted. I'm sure they will be exempt from it. I completely disagree.

You know what? These guys are expendable media spots. They're foot soldiers. That's it. They exist to sell the Democratic Party. If they don't get drafted, it damages the credibility of the machine. The machine will sacrifice these guys in two seconds to sell a draft. And they will make them do it with smiles on their faces.

You'll get a video of Harry andris wearing their military uniforms being like we're doing the right thing for our country why aren't you and they're gonna be filming tiktoks being deployed in the plane they're gonna be like this is what it means to fight for your country and believe in america well and you know they probably will never see combat right but it's just going to be the ukraine situation with the the girls you know in the same with like the idf in israel they always post the videos of these girls fully kitted out or they're dancing things like that to make it more appealing like oh this is what war is and they're going to be the propaganda tiktok guys of the war exactly all right let's see what we got here nathan c says i think de santis campaign is doing great did you see Trump's small audience in Erie, PA this week?

No, but if DeSantis' polls tanking, his donors bailing, and them laying off a bunch of staff is doing great, then I got a bridge to sell you. And a Sonagrand video. I think, yeah, I don't think he's doing so great. Yeah, that's crazy. I think that that's the nail in the coffin. No, wait, it was the Sonnenfreud, isn't it?

You said Sonagram. No, Sonagrad. Sonagrad? That's what it was. Okay, thanks. Sonagrad. Sonnen was the Sonnenfreud, isn't it? You said Sonnegram. No, Sonnegrad. Sonnegrad? That's what it was. Okay, thanks. Sonnegrad. Sonnenrad. Sonnenrad.

Yeah, Sonnenrad. There it is. We will grab more super chats. Jim Hansen says, Six years as an Army Ranger, five deployments to Afghanistan. No matter how much tech you think you have, you always need a human with a rifle and grenades

to seize territory. You always need the meat grinder. If he has a line on grenades please let me know drones can't drones can't occupy street corners yeah exactly and that's that's the important thing what do we got here wrath says grand thumb youtube channel did a video where they tested the drone warfare seen in ukraine they are veterans and share some interesting views you should have him on he is awesome yeah he's very outspoken what's your thumb right yeah not get garen thumb but he he is genuinely amazing and he's recently started to come out and say you know what is a cancelable offense i mean about everything going on i think he'd be an awesome guest it's very smart yeah it's spelled grand thumb here and i know it's Garantham. I won Garantham. It's referring to the snapback on the Grantham.

It's Garantham. Yeah. Because it snaps and hits your thumb. Yeah, he has a video where he's testing it, and he allows himself to get smacked like ten times. I have one of those. This dude's got balls of steel. It don't feel good.

No, it hurts. That's never happened. We should definitely have that guy on. I don't know him, but I know people that know him. Back in the days when they had clips and not magazines. People still say clip and not magazine. I've done that a couple times back in the day. What do we got?

Timothy Bond says, have y'all talked about the illegal lab they found in California with COVID mice? No. We didn't, but yeah, they found a Chinese bio lab in California. We mentioned it last night. I didn't know you were referencing that. When did that happen? They found it recently, but it's been here for at least you know a year a couple years or

something like that i don't know they're testing covet on mice all right k-toth swiss as i'm seeing this projecting smear attempt recently increasing recently increasingly more by the left you know the left is tactic of accusing your opponent that of which you are guilty of nice try loser and i think that's a reference to the dude who said we were projecting because uh you know whatever yeah you guys are projecting desantis campaign is is crumbling he laid off a ton of people they overhired they've got all this negative press it is not going well the The polls are tanking. It's just, it's unfortunate, man. It's crazy how quickly he just, out the gate, was on top, and then...

He was on fire, and now... On fire. Yeah, on fire, but not in a good way. Yeah, he was on fire, and now his campaign's on fire. That's crazy. Yeah, the O-ring fell off the campaign. In reference to Vivek, Firesky says, and now he went up by 35 points.

Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Vivek is team forward the line. Vivek's great, man. Well, and as this video gets more views, too, because this is the first day it's been out, it's been out for a few hours, it's only going to keep going up. I'm pretty confident that if Vivekk were the nominee i would vote for him

yeah 100 i would 100 vote for him if he's comfortable nathan c says desantis responded today to the indictment as president i will end the weaponization of government replace the fbi director and ensure a single standard of justice for all americans oh great just the director just the director because we saw how great that works out well to be fair vivek didn't say he would remove anybody. And so it's like, okay, I can respect it. But it's more than just that. The DeSantis campaign is having a bunch of critical errors.

I want DeSantis to succeed. We want more competition in this primary field. And DeSantis has got a great record in Florida. But if his supporters keep ignoring all the problems, plugging their ears and saying, la, la, la, everything's fine, then you lose. And fine, go ahead. I don't don't care yo i'll say it again desantis needs to fire christina pushaw like i'm just i'm flabbergasted he's not getting rid of this person who's flubbed everything i'm interested to see if she she responds to these clips that come out well i tweeted it earlier and i'm just like, I avoided saying anything.

I said it a little bit when the deepfake thing happened. And now it's just like after reading the semaphore piece where she's in this chat, she's the rapid response director. And they put out some of these videos. They put out the deepfake video.

Their team, she knows what's going on. Are they just firing everyone around her for some reason she's clearly doing a bad job sounds like they're friends i don't want absolutely and jeremy redfern he's but he's he's not even with the campaign he's he's uh i think that he's in the governor's uh staff in florida yeah he got moved positions but then you also have brian griffin you have these communications people that are just burning the whole thing to the ground and desantis is like this is fine well you got you you got Trump saying Ashley Babbitt was murdered,

and then you have one of DeSantis' number one guys saying she effed around and found out. So there's a huge disparity of communication. When I reached out to Redfern and said, are you guys really standing by this deepfake? He said something about it being like, it's just a meme. Yeah, well, in regards to burning the campaign down,

there's one way to do it is setting the fire yourself. Christina, you obviously didn't do that. Another way is if you're in the building and it's burning around you and you just sit there and don't do anything about it, you're essentially— No, she set the fires. You may not be the one burning it down, but you're allowing it to burn down. She set the fires. Whether or not you did, if you're found there— I genuinely think it was the rug burn picture.

Yeah, it was that, and then the George Soros one is really what tipped it over into full blown. Just attack everybody. Just just look at like Twitter search X searches, I guess now. But there's a lot of personalities saying that she began attacking allies and friends and like around this time. Damn. And it's like we had been speaking with her about coming on the show. She said, yeah, she'd love to do in the future. We are big fans of DeSantis.

We want to do an interview with him. And then all of a sudden, one day, she's just attacking me on Twitter. Man. You know, it's interesting. You wonder if there's any, you know, like third party influence there because she used to be the girl. She used to be the person that stood up to the media that really just laid it down. And everybody loved her. Everybody's sharing clips of her.

It's always going viral. She was another version of basically Kaylee McKinney. She was awesome. And then now all of a sudden complete flip-flop so you wonder if there's any uh you know third party influence in that video guy says trump has a video response out we'll we'll what we'll do is in the members segment we'll uh we'll jump to the video and then we'll we'll start addressing it so we got a couple more minutes we'll read a couple more super chats all right noah Sanders says, did you see that Cenk was on the Patrick Bet David

podcast? I love how he's more afraid of Tim and you all than he is of Patrick Bet David. Uyghur? PBD? Was he talking about intercourse with horses again? I know he likes to do that. I hope so. I love that reference. I think the issue with, like,

PBD, it's like an entrepreneurial entrepreneurial podcast it's not overtly political but they talk politics this is a political show where we do nothing but read the news and we pull up sources for all of our stories whenever we launch a story i'm like here's the article from this source and we always use news guard certified sources despite the fact that news guard is heavily criticized by the right. We do it for that reason. This is the reason why they don't want to come on this show because what we say is backed by their institutions and their sources.

We're not making it up. They can't rebut it. Yeah, if it's framed as a show where you're going to go in and get talked to about politics you're not familiar with, I understand why people are like, well, I'll do that when I'm ready. Well, I mean, you see how the service guy did on here. And if Jen comes on the show and says, it's not true, Biden didn't do this,

and I play the video, how is he going to go back on his show and maintain the lie? He can't. He'll lose followers. He'll lose money. They can't do it. Dana should come on.

She's been pretty vocal. She's fed up with nonsense right now. It's actually, that's been interesting watching her character development because it does actually seem genuine you know she's more so straying and she's getting so much hate from it there was dudes that actually put their hands on her and that was the what so and the reason the thing that like initiated anna yeah the anna casperian is who this is yeah Yeah, Anna Kasparian's stuff. She was walking her dog, and there were two dudes that looked like they were homeless dudes outside of her house or something like that.

And when she bent over or something like that to do something to grab the dog or whatever, and one of the dudes walked up behind him and basically did the whole, like, you know, pelvic thrust. And then they kept walking. Nothing happened to her after that. But it's like she was like, pelvic thrust. And then they kept walking. Nothing happened to her after that, but it's like, she was like,

okay, this is now actually come home. The problem of homeless people around and, and lawlessness has actually, she understood that the policies that she was promoting in turn, it actually affected her for once. And then that was her wake up point. It seemed like,

and it's not just that though. There's other things that she's, that that was the first thing, but then there were other things where she would, she felt like people on the left were gaslighting her about things and she went and she looked into the into the kyle rittenhouse stuff and realized that she had been adv like actively telling people things that were completely wrong and she's had a kind of an awakening where she's like i didn't know that i was wrong you know and that speaks volumes when one of the one of the more influential voices on the left not only has come out and said, hey, I was wrong with this, this, and this,

but I was spreading this as if it was real. And now she's getting attacked ruthlessly by tons of people on the left. Personally, I feel bad for Anna being the recipient of the attacks, but I'm glad to see the left behaving the way that they normally behave. Maybe we'll see if she's willing to come on the Culture War podcast. We'll set it up. Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you

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