Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #831 Trump Facing 561 YEARS In Prison, SCOTUS Set To END Phony Charges w/Jose Galison

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Tim, Brett, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Tower Gang Jose to discuss Trump facing a potential 561 years in prison, Vivek Ramaswamy moving into second place in the prediction market, Vivek doubting the g...overnment's report on the September 11 attacks, & Lizzo facing a lawsuit for weight shaming her staff & dancers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Donald Trump is facing 561 years in prison. And in fact, he's fundraising off of it. Not surprised. His betting odds have increased with these latest indictments and the betting odds for his rival candidates are going down. Well, again, I can't say I'm surprised because whenever they go after Trump like this, he's going to raise tons of money. They put his name in the press.
Starting point is 00:00:23 They make historical context by which Trump will raise historical sums of money. This will be interesting. Alan Dershowitz came out and said that SCOTUS will shut this down. And he's probably right. Some people are saying that it's going to go to the Supreme Court before it even sees any kind of arraignment or criminal trial. But we shall see. In other news, this is interesting, Vivek Ramaswamy is getting roasted because he said he doesn't believe the 9-11 commission report. Of course, he is completely correct in his opinion and how he broke it down. And the media is taking this tiny morsel slightly out of context to try and smear him. But I find that one particularly funny.
Starting point is 00:01:01 And then, I guess because everybody wants to have a good laugh. And, you know, we're always talking about this negative news, World War III. You know, Poland is saying that the Wagner Group is headed towards a NATO country and all that stuff. We're going to talk about something a bit more positive that will make you laugh and feel good. Justin Trudeau is getting divorced. Okay, he's not really getting divorced. He's separating from his wife. But we'll see how that plays out.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And then we've got a bunch of other stories. We'll probably talk about Lizzo. You know, she's getting sued because she like mercilessly abused her backup dancers. And it's like truly a horrifying story. There's a bunch of other stuff we can get to. Before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy Cast Brew Coffee. This is our coffee company. We are sponsoring ourselves.
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Starting point is 00:02:20 And you will be able, as members, to call in and actually talk to us and our guests. So smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends in and actually talk to us and our guests so smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is tower gang jose hey uh thanks for having me i'm looking forward to it uh i'm jose galy son i have a podcast called no way jose i'm probably best
Starting point is 00:02:36 known for my coverage on the oklahoma city bombing uh last time i was here i let you guys all know that uh terence sheiky didn't kill himself and less than a month later cnn ended up covering that story so today i'm here to tell you Kenneth Trandu didn't kill himself, and Jesse Trandu, his brother, sure could use some awareness. He still continues over a 25-year-long battle for justice in his brother's death, and the people
Starting point is 00:02:56 that did him in, you know, still walking free today. I have no idea the context of any of that. It's an individual in the Oklahoma City bombing. I suggest people go look into it. Search up Kenneth Trandreaten To Do. If you'd like to get a shirt, use No Way Jose at checkout at toplobster.com. 15% off just for the show. Yeah, I'm also on Tower Gang, which is an offensive comedy podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:15 So both my podcasts are very different. But yeah, I'm looking forward to being here today. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. We've got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. You should go follow them on social media.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And Brett's here. Oh, yes. Hello. My name is Brett Dasvik. I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Glad to be here. Yeah, Ian is out because he's been working out so aggressively
Starting point is 00:03:40 that he is currently drained and laying on the floor downstairs. My favorite part is now when he's walking around, he's walking around in cut-off shirts. That's the best part. out so aggressively that he is currently drained and laying on the floor downstairs my favorite part is now when he's walking around he's walking around in cut off shirts yeah that's that's the best part he's getting ready i love it oh yeah it's uh i have a good singing you ian that really has uh he's like his whole personality's kind of shifted a little bit i think you guys would agree it's the testosterone surging through his veins you know just that he's he's bulking up i saw him punch a hole in the wall the other day i was scared he bumped my shoulders on the way up here just cleared it man yeah yeah anyways uh surge.com guys uh let's get into one of your items all right here's the first story
Starting point is 00:04:13 from mediate 561 years in prison trump fundraising off of recent indictment with dire warning you could be thrown in jail for six lifetimes. So I actually got this email and it says Patriot with Crooked Joe's corrupt DOJ having unlawfully indicted yours truly yet again. Reports indicate that I could now face a combined 561 years in prison from the left witch hunts six lifetimes. There's only one message someone can send by trying to throw you in jail for six lifetimes. And that's fear. The fear that if you vote for the only candidate who puts you first, you too could be harass 561 years. Alan Dershowitz says conviction of Trump would be overturned by the Supreme Court. On Tuesday, Biden's DOJ filed yet another indictment. As we know, following the announcement, lawyer and Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz sat
Starting point is 00:05:14 down with Fox News' Sean Hannity, discussed the former president's legal prospects, suggesting that while he would likely be convicted, the ruling would be overturned by the Supreme Court. Quote, they claim that Donald Trump actually believed that he lost the election, that everything he did was fraudulent, that he conspired with unnamed lawyers to affect the election. You're allowed to challenge elections. Indeed, the best way to challenge elections is to come up with a slate of alternate electors. The government has the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that subjectively Donald Trump actually believed that he lost the election and acted contrary to that belief.
Starting point is 00:05:48 There is no smoking gun. There is no one who is credibly prepared to testify that Donald Trump said to him, I know personally I lost the election. What they're doing with the indictment is they're taking things where Trump said, like, you're crazy to someone as if to imply that means he really knew that he did lose the election. But more importantly, I'm not so sure how much any of this procedural stuff matters. What the Democrats have been doing is effectively just an onslaught of whatever they can keep firing off at Donald Trump. And it's probably going to be some kind of death by a thousand cuts.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah, it's impossible not to factor in the timing here, right? Like you've had these investigations going, what, since the day he was elected? Like he has been so intensely investigated for the last effectively eight years. And now all of a sudden on the eve of an election, they are ready to prosecute. They have all of these ideas. And in fact, they aren't just going to try it in one court. They're going to try it three different times. I mean, it's sort of bizarre. Mike Pence said yesterday, you know, I'm going to wait to review everything. But this is just a distraction from the real issues. He threw Trump under the bus.
Starting point is 00:06:54 He threw him under the bus. And he's not even, last I checked, he didn't even qualify for the debates, right? Like, I think this shows you how intensely influential the Trump campaign is, that they are timing federal investigations to try and throw off his campaign. I mean, this is one of the things that comes up. When are they going to have these trials, right? Will it keep him from basically campaigning and being with people? And instead, it'll be in the headlines where, you know, they're going to restrict media access to the court.
Starting point is 00:07:22 There are going to be all these issues just to try to slow him down. And nothing is working. Yes, it's like the same old tired trope. They tried this with Russia and kind of bog him down over and over again. And now they're continuing. And I just I don't know at what point will they pull a different play of their playbook. I'm a little concerned. He is straddling the line like kind of JFK-ish.
Starting point is 00:07:38 You're like, at what point does he hop over the line to where the, you know, the deep state does something? I don't know. And what are they going to do? I don't know. It's always a going to do? I don't know. It's always a possibility for any president for a variety of reasons, but I don't think that's the route they go. I think what's more likely to happen. Well, for one, they tried the rape thing in New York where they're like, he's been convicted
Starting point is 00:07:57 by or not convicted. He's been found liable or something for some 30 year old nonsense story. I just want to stress how ridiculous and insane the story was. And if you believe it, you're, well, if you claim to believe it, you're either lying or really dumb. That Trump went into the,
Starting point is 00:08:11 what was the department store? Like this- Bergdorf Goodman, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This massive department store. And for some reason, nobody was anywhere. They walked in
Starting point is 00:08:18 and everyone just vanished. They must've been raptured because they were gone. And then they went into a dressing room where for some reason, the doors were unlocked. And then they went into a dressing room where, for some reason, the doors were unlocked. And then they went inside, did the deed and left. And no one noticed. No one noticed.
Starting point is 00:08:31 No one noticed. The king of New York, the most famous guy in the city. Nobody noticed him walk into this massive shopping center. It's an insane story. But they've tried that. I bring that up because this is what they did to Julian Assange. They made this ridiculous fake story about first it was like a condom broke and then molestation then the media reports it as rape which is all a lie then they throw it all out and say yeah that that's nonsense we don't care about that anymore now they're going after him for espionage which
Starting point is 00:08:59 is also nonsense but hillary clinton was famously as saying, can't we just drone this guy? And then they were like, yeah, he's in London. So no, we can't. But this is typically what they try to do to people outside of Western nations. Inside, they've changed strategies. They don't make a martyr of these people. So what do they do? They accuse Julian Assange of being a rapist so that it sounds really, really awful historically
Starting point is 00:09:22 and in the press. They try that with Trump, but it seems to just bounce off because nobody cares and nobody believes it anymore. People already pick their sides, right? Like you're not going to convince anybody that hates him that much that he's a good guy
Starting point is 00:09:36 and you're not going to convince the most entrenched of his fans that he's suddenly a bad guy. Even many of his fans don't see him as that good of a guy. It's more so that good of a guy well it's it's more so that more of a realistic he's a sword he's or what did michael uh what did um michael moore say a human molotov cocktail so when they come out and they throw all this garbage at trump to stick
Starting point is 00:09:56 to him and they're like see look how bad he is they're like oh you're sweetening the pot and i think it's hard to contrast trump who hypothetically did something after we demanded he turned over all of these documents. He's been under federal scrutiny for years with the actual reality of the Biden administration, right? When you are comparing two things, the effects of inflation on your family and hypothetical goose chase, which actually is the federal government wasting taxpayer funds, I feel like I'm going to be more mad at the federal government overall. It's not helping whatever cause they think they have.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So the question is, are they indicting Trump to interfere in the election to distract from the Joe Biden corruption allegations? Or could it be that the U.S. credit rating was just downgraded from triple A to double A plus? And we've had, I think, the highest number of bankruptcies in the first two quarters this year since the past 13 years.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So something is going wrong economically. Inflation is through the roof. I mean, just go to the grocery store, buy groceries and it's nuts. There was a viral TikTok where it was like this couple and they were like, it said buying groceries in 2011 and they're like dancing and they have this big table
Starting point is 00:11:08 and it's like $100. And then it was like buying groceries today and they're standing there and there's like five things and it's the same price. So yeah, when working class and middle Americans are right now watching the news and someone on CNN comes out and says, Donald Trump had classified documents.
Starting point is 00:11:23 They're like, I'm just trying to buy some beef for my family, dude. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. Meanwhile, 561 years. It's giving very Alex Jones. It's giving Alex Jones. What does he owe now? Like $2 billion?
Starting point is 00:11:37 No, wasn't it trillions? It's like a trillion dollars. It was the GDP of France, wasn't it? Yeah. He owns an entire European nation. It's like they just throw the book at them because they hate them. They understand that the people that already hate them
Starting point is 00:11:50 are going to continue to hate them. They're like, oh, good. Even though they understand that he's just going to file bankruptcy and whatever's going to happen is going to happen. My thing is like all of this seems like a politically charged goose chase when there are like actual child predators
Starting point is 00:12:03 or murderers out there who get less time. It was 2.75 trillion. That seems reasonable. That's the GDP of France. I like the idea. Alex Jones must pay us the GDP of France. He's like, yep, I'm on. It would be funny if like everybody in France
Starting point is 00:12:20 loved Alex Jones to the point where they were buying from him and he did make that much money and we just didn't know about it. They just asked for his Venmo. They're like, can you Venmo us the money? We've got you. Don't worry. But also like, I mean, there's J6 people, like they're going to rush this trial to make sure that it happens like right before the election. Meanwhile, J6 people, no trial, no nothing. It's, it's very like, if you pay close enough attention to what's going on in the world, you just how unfair all of it is but the average person isn't paying that close attention
Starting point is 00:12:48 that's what i found weird about pence's comments because he released this statement like right after the indictment came out being like it means more talk about january 6th and other distractions and you want to be like we should talk about january 6th we should talk about january 6th all the time because there are people who were persecuted in a way that no one else has been and we just let them fall. Like, you shouldn't let them just fall to the wayside. Like, that's the best thing about the Trump Trump situation, in my opinion, which is that we like continue to talk about the miscarriage of justice at the federal level. Wasn't it like literally the day before January 6th, Mike Pence
Starting point is 00:13:20 said, we're going to have Congress go through this and we're going to hear the evidence. And the next day he's like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm willing to bet that like that night he's in bed with his wife and there's like a knock on the door and he's like, well, he wakes up at two in the morning and then he comes to the door and there's a guy in a suit with like black sunglasses. And then the guy in Mike's like, what's going on? And then he just hands a picture of JFK. And then Mike's like. OK, I really just feel like it was just politically expedient from that time. is like what's going on and then he just hands a picture of jfk and then mike's like okay i really just feel like it was just politically expedient from that time it wouldn't i don't think anyone
Starting point is 00:13:49 needed to say anything he knew that his role as a vice president at time was to kind of tacitly be in this in-between spot it was very clear to and that's why there was so much rage from the trump base against pence is because they kind of knew he was talking out both sides of his mouth and he didn't really mean all this like him saying that oh we'll look into this what does that even mean we'll look into it okay cool like that doesn't mean much of anything this is a big component too of the of the suit now because it's being reported the uh what's it what's the guy's name smith what's his name jake smith jake is it jack smith jack special counsel prosecutor whatever that he claimed that uh p Pence did not have the authority to reject electoral votes, which is wrong. He absolutely did until 2022.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Apparently, there was some revision to the law. But Democrats famously brought together an alternate slate of electors from Hawaii in 1960. Despite the fact that the state was won by the Republicans, the governor certified the Republican electors. Democrats still convened a fraudulent slate of electors. I governor certified the Republican electors. Democrats still convened a fraudulent slate of electors. I say fraudulent, good sir. And because of the claim about Trump and then sent them out. And Nixon chose to ignore his vice president. He ignored the certified electoral votes and said, I'm going to count the Democrat uncertified votes anyway. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 00:15:05 How does the vice president have the authority to do that back in 1960 and then lose it? Well, I suppose Congress could change things, but that's not what happened. Mike Pence did have this authority. Trump's lawyers were advising him. Not perfectly, but he had some sound policy and procedure advice. And then Mike Pence was just like, eh, screw it. Yeah. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:15:25 It seems crazy to me. Also, you know, like I said before, I don't think he, last I checked, he had not qualified for the debates, which debates are questionable anyways. The strangest thing about this is he has to walk this weird line
Starting point is 00:15:38 that's like, well, I was part of the Trump administration and that's literally why all of you know who I am. Except also, I don't really want to be affiliated with the bad stuff or the more controversial stuff. So I'm going to sort of be the most politician, politician of all times and try to make everyone happy in which I will fail. The crazy thing is that Mike Pence threw Trump under the bus tweeting that this but basically saying this man should not be allowed to be president or whatever. It's the inversion of Vivek Ramaswamy. When Vivek came out and said, we should all come together and reject these political indictments and these charges, they're trying to remove Trump, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:14 in an unjust way. That's really amazing. So when you, when you say that Mike Pence doesn't qualify for the debates, there's, there's, it's not a very difficult question as to why. Well, it's because he hasn't gotten enough donors. That's like literally what I'm referring to. Yeah. Nobody wants to give money to a guy who sucks. Yeah. But that's so interesting, right? Because theoretically, at one point, he thought he was the heir apparent.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Like if Trump got two terms, he would be the next obvious candidate to win. And like he made such a catastrophic miscalculation and then continue to be like, I think I can do it. I think I could win. I think the landscape has changed so much. I said a minute ago that what Mike Pence was was doing was politically expedient but that was kind of wrong it was traditionally politically expedient right and they're still in that mindset what is now becoming the the type of rhetoric that is becoming actually politically expedient
Starting point is 00:16:56 is things like what vivek is is saying like actually owning it and having bold messaging and having a legit message i mean i am a little bit concerned about some of his messaging and from the past, but I don't know. I'm open to see maybe just change his mind. But I mean, either way, that is the rhetoric people want. Let me pull this up from predicted. This is the latest prediction numbers. Vivek Ramaswamy tied in second place with Ron DeSantis. And, you know, I think he might he might overtake Ron DeSantis in the second place very, very soon. When Donald Trump gets indicted, Vivek comes out with a very, very strong and it seemed unscripted message about how this is wrong. Whether or not you trust Vivek, he is he's rolling 20s. He is hitting all of his marks. He's responding authentically and properly. He's answering
Starting point is 00:17:43 the questions when people criticize him. He tackles them head on. Now he is rising in the prediction market. So I suppose we shall see at what point he hits second place. But I'm already seeing a ton of Trump supporters saying that if for some reason Trump was completely incapable of running, Vivek would be their guy. It's definitely interesting. He sent out a couple fundraising emails this week saying, I am on track to overtake Ron DeSantis. And when he was here
Starting point is 00:18:09 the other week, he was saying, we were hoping to reach about a 10% in the polling by the end of the year. We are much farther ahead of that. His campaign really has
Starting point is 00:18:18 had a lot of inertia behind it. What do you guys think? What do you think? I don't know. I think Vivek will take him over. I think Ron is plummeting and I'm kind of heartened by it because uh i heard you guys on the show the other day saying vivek's kind of like a a right-wing obama and i i it's funny my buddy
Starting point is 00:18:33 reid coverdale actually said the same thing about ron at one point where he was kind of following a similar kind of thing but it's it's almost like the people kind of saw it because i'm of the opinion that i mean maybe ron would be great when he got in but i i'm sensing neocon vibes so it really feels like no no no ron so i'm saying like he kind of was the right wing obama but now it's like it's kind of that idea was like traditionally political expedient or modern political expedient now it's like vivic could be that right wing obama to where it's like i don't know maybe he will swap when he gets in i don't know maybe he'll stay true to be he is genuine i'm i'm unsure but he seems pretty genuine from everywhere at the time i've seen him talk but point being is it's just i'm heartened by the idea that people kind of lost faith in the
Starting point is 00:19:14 ron thing like i love to be clear i love him as a florida governor i think he's great but now when you get the reins of federal power that's a different story now you're controlling foreign policy vivek is he's going on every show and just saying ask me yep and it's just raw unfiltered and authentic it's it's masterfully done whether he's you you like him or trust him or not if if he is being duplicitous and political and trying to earn votes good at it he he's yeah he's the best i've ever seen that's the scariest part right that's the ones you have to worry about is the ones who are really really good at hiding it until the last moment right and he has done a very good job about that because i think anyone who has even base level political knowledge sees him and sees some type of comparison to barack obama but i would also maybe posit that
Starting point is 00:19:58 people who are now paying attention to politics especially people who lean right are far more informed on these issues. So if he's going to fool them, it will be a lot harder to fool them than to fool a political novice in 2008. He can't just put up a hope poster and call it a day. He can't just put up a hope and change poster and call it a day.
Starting point is 00:20:18 You know, VikingVet told us, he superchatted saying, pull up the predicted graph and you can actually see Vivek has already surpassed DeSantis on one occasion. I think if we, let's go back 30 days, we can see that, yeah, there is a period where Vivek and DeSantis had tied. And then on the 28th, Vivek actually surpassed DeSantis by two cents and held that lead for, I believe, two days. So they tied and now it's going back up. So he's already gotten it.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I think the story of Vivek is that he was very much apolitical. He was kind of just like somewhat political. And then the story he told us was that when the BLM riots happened, people came to him and said, change your company's profile picture to the black square. And he was like, oh, sure, whatever. And he does. And they come to him and they're like, now write a letter about why what happened was bad. And he was like, sure, I guess. And then he writes like, hey, the writing is really bad. It's unfortunate what happened. I
Starting point is 00:21:19 hope this country can come together and heal. And they were like, no, no, no, you're supposed to be why we're right and support us. And he was like, okay, now you're pissing me off. Like I wrote something. Then he started getting board members from his company resigning. It seems like Vivek was this successful, what is he worth? Half a billion dollars. He's running a pharmaceutical company, minding his own business, probably very pleased with himself at 37. And then woke activists started attacking him. And look, it's one thing if you're like an indie game developer or a small YouTuber or a random guy who works at a steel mill, and they're coming to cancel you. It's another thing if you're the guy who founded a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical and you're
Starting point is 00:22:00 worth half a billion dollars, and they come at you and try to cancel you. And then I'm just imagining him sitting there like clenching his fist being like i will destroy you and now this is the story he told that like after seeing that he realized how dangerous this stuff was he wrote the book i think woke capital he started talking about esg being a problem he created a a um a what is it a mutual fund he created a fund i'm not i'm not a finance guy specifically to reject what's going on with esg and all that and then he's like i'm gonna run for president so this dude's just just he's doing an amazing job he's nailing it i'm a big fan he seems to be fitting in more like with the well-informed voters who would naturally vote trump you would have thought
Starting point is 00:22:42 they would have gone towards ron because he was such a culture war issue type guy. But those issues, whether we're talking about financing from companies like BlackRock or Vanguard, pushing back against that type of ESG based capitalism is going to be strong for him because the people who would vote for Trump if he was out of the election are going to care about that stuff. And Ron can't seem to land much of it. We did a clip the other day where he's like at like some meet and greet with people and he just laughs really awkwardly and walks away. And it's just like, he can't win.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Like he, like the clip is bad. He, it's not even his fault in this case. Right. But somebody poised it. It just seems awkward. And the,
Starting point is 00:23:17 the dude can't catch a break. Honestly, I found it endearing personally. Cause I'm like, Oh, that's me. But like right now he's in like, he he's facing people who are very much antagonistic. Right., that's me. But like right now, he's in like, he's facing people
Starting point is 00:23:25 who are very much antagonistic, right? So that's going to be, that's not going to be shown in a way that's endearing to people. Like certain people might see it that way. Like you said, you identified with it
Starting point is 00:23:34 because I would be that way, you know, at the party too. But in general, that's not something you want in the leader of your military, right? I think what's cool about Vivek's messaging is that it's more than just,
Starting point is 00:23:44 like, you know, Rhonda Santis did a lot of really interesting things culture war wise especially when it comes to gender ideology one of the things i like about the vague's campaign is that it's uh much more about the renewal of like civic engagement and about patriotism and about values that bring us together and i think as much as like the more divisive aspects of the culture war are definitely worth fighting it is nice to also say like here is actually what we want instead of just saying well we don't want these things what do we want and i think that's cool there are definitely stuff about like the campaign that i don't personally agree with i think there should be more restriction on legal immigration he doesn't uh but i am grateful that he's on the scene because he's
Starting point is 00:24:20 provoking a lot of really interesting conversation i I would describe Donald Trump's campaign in a single word, revenge. I don't see a lot more. I mean, he's fundraising. They're coming after me. They want to destroy me and strike fear. And I'm fighting for you. And I see all of this. And I'm like, Trump wants to go in there and get revenge.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I like it. Someone's got to go in and have a beef to just start firing the bureaucrats. And that's a great first step towards fixing the problems in government. Not all of them. You know, government itself is a problem in many ways. And then you have Vivek Ramaswamy. And I look at him and you and if I were to describe his campaign, it's like you said, civic engagement. He's talked about civics tests for voting. He's talking about American values and things like this. And he's he's he's nailing it. My question for you guys, I guess, is how would you describe Rhonda Santis's campaign?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Like his policies, what he's pushing, what he stands for, what represents like what does he represent? He's just not picking something. He's trying to be this essentially of a VEK in a sense or like some sort of vivek you know trump mashup but he's not really well i just mean the vibe like and then he's but he's not really committing he's also still kind of like sort of like being like oh to what like elite talking points kind of like alluding but i might still be for that like it's like there's so many things like i know when he was waffling i think on the ukraine stuff a while but he was talking about it and he was just kind of like can you really just not say no like just we're done like and none of
Starting point is 00:25:48 this like oh we need to have a presence here like just none of this like politician talk people are over it they want you to be solid about what you want and like take a strong stance i think he has this pull between his like ron with his base and his donors i think that is kind of what the issue is so he's like where do i go and it's like you got to pick one or the other i mean preferably the base how is it hard though i mean what single voter actually is is voting for more money being sent to ukraine i mean maybe maybe like ukrainian americans the donors somebody who has a connection to ukraine yeah the thing is i felt like ron
Starting point is 00:26:26 desantis was the strongest when he was just ron desantis in florida thinking about florida doing what he could for florida and he didn't have what i assume he now has which is this kind of what you're talking about like a donor class that's come in and say okay this is what we think will translate best to the national level and in that way he's lost his sense of self which like you're saying when you have strong contenders who have these personalities their campaigns have a rhythm they have sort of found found their their niche uh in terms of the interview circuit it's very different than sort of where ronda stands is right now and again that's not to say that he doesn't ever have any interesting
Starting point is 00:26:59 talking points or anything that but you start to feel like he is not catching the rhythm that he needs to, to sustain his second place standing. Yeah. It's unfortunate, man. I feel, uh, I feel let down. Yeah. The, uh, that, uh, video you guys have been talking about a lot recently, I think was a perfect example where like, they're trying to sort of, which one, the, the one with the Ukraine, the Stalin, whatever the heck it's called.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. Nazi symbol. Yeah. Which personally I thought was awesome, but like, obviously, no, not obviously no i don't think the nazi said but the whole vibe of the video it was like how do you accidentally put a spinning black sun behind your candidate with with soldiers marching towards it that's not an accident yeah and if you're gonna do what he was doing you're gonna do it you need to own it you probably shouldn't do it but if you're gonna do it you shouldn't own it just be like hey it was a cool symbol or there it's stupid trying to own it but trying to do this in between thing where like our people
Starting point is 00:27:49 put it out and we're trying to have this plausible deniability it's just silly either he could have said i don't know i saw from the ukraine fighters yeah so that we that's what it was all about let's uh oh you know ian's gonna be really upset he's not here tonight because we have this story from politico vivek ramaswamy quote i don't believe the 9-11 commission report the gop candidate went on to insist he was expressing doubts about the saudi government's explanation for the attacks let me just say first and foremost you want to talk about honesty in a political candidate have them come out and say they don't trust the 9-11 commission report. And I believe Vivek Ramaswamy is being honest. I mean, this in any traditional sense, any traditional political consultant would be like,
Starting point is 00:28:33 what did you just do? You nuked your campaign. But Vivek is telling you actually what he thinks. And he's completely correct. Let me read this. Politico reports, Vivek Ramaswamy cast doubt on the veracity of the government's explanation for the 9-11 attacks, saying he didn't believe the findings of the 9-11 commission. He said, quote, I don't believe the government has told us the truth. I'm driven by evidence and data. What I've seen in the last several years is we have to be skeptical of what the government does tell us. I haven't seen evidence of the contrary, but do I believe everything the government told us about it? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Do I believe the 9-11 commission absolutely not i am tremendously impressed from this they're they're trying to now claim he's like a 9-11 truther or it's like the underlying argument no no no no no that's total bs if you believe everything the government tells you you haven't read a history book not a single one one. And I got a bridge to sell you. All he's saying is something simple. And I've said something similar. Why would any reasonable person think the government issued a book
Starting point is 00:29:34 explaining one of the greatest security failures in the history of this country? They wouldn't. They would put out something which is somewhat true, but probably has a bunch of gaps in it because they don't want to reveal secrets as to how we got attacked because we don't want it to happen again. Vivek is correct.
Starting point is 00:29:52 You know, that can be there's some comedians a bit that's like, you don't need to believe in all conspiracy theories. You don't believe in any. You think the government's just out here batting a thousand? We're like, we talked about like parenting and lying to his own kid. It's great. I wish I could remember. That's a good one. Yeah, we're like we talked about like parenting and lying to his own kid it's great i wish i could remember oh that's a good one yeah uh we're like one we're like one biden mishap away from finding out that aliens did 9-11 anyways but the thing is and i know this was the talking
Starting point is 00:30:12 room last week but like everyone be like okay i mean i guess so it's i i think what's interesting i feel like i have to point out is like vivek is is establishing the narrative like i don't know the context in which this came up he's was being interviewed and someone asked him explicitly, do you believe in this? Or if he just brought it up on his own in his own interview, which I wouldn't put past him. I think it's interesting
Starting point is 00:30:32 that so often, especially on the campaign trail, you get these guys who are like, something's happening at the border wall and I'm going to comment on it. Oh, something happened over here and I'll comment on it. Whereas Vivek is like,
Starting point is 00:30:40 I want to talk about this now. I'm going to give you my opinion. Like, that's like a, that's a very bold choice. How does it even come up that they're like, do you believe 9-11 Commissioner Fort? He's like, no. If he had been on this show, like it would have been any one of you guys to be like, so let me ask you a question here.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Oh, right. For sure. But like, Ian, it didn't happen on our show. So I feel like I don't understand. Can I can I just want to play a quick snippet from the widest kids, you know, this is a 14 year old skit. And I only want to play a quick snippet from The Whitest Kids You Know. This is a 14-year-old skit, and I want to play a little tiny bit of it. Okay, thank you for waiting. The president has asked me to come out and make a brief statement about the wire that just went out a couple minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:31:19 To make things short, I will just confirm that, yes, we do a moon base, and yes, we are currently experiencing some bear problems. Now, I will open it up if there are any questions. Mr. President! New York Times. Yes, I have a 10, no, 11-part question. I'm sorry, I only have time for two. All right, let me get this straight. So the United States government is
Starting point is 00:31:46 admitting that we do have a moon base, and that there is a bear problem on said moon base. Yes, that is correct. Alright, follow-up question? Are you fucking with us? No, we are not, and I would like to remind everyone to keep
Starting point is 00:32:02 the language civilized. This is the White House. So he basically then goes on to say, he says would like to remind everyone to keep the language civilized. This is the White House. So he basically then goes on to say, he says stuff like, yes, well, the bear's been an ongoing problem since the wizards were attacking, and then they're like, wizards! And then, uh, let me jump, right, there's a picture of the bear on the moon. Let me jump to
Starting point is 00:32:18 the end here and give you the punchline. We believe they may be one of the, uh... Just a thought, more of a shot in the dark but uh we wouldn't happen to be invading iran today would we you got me i fell for it i fell for it yes exactly summed up perfectly 14 years ago by the whitest kids you know. It's so great because we're experiencing it now.
Starting point is 00:32:48 We have this. We're like, oh my God, look at Vivek questioning the 9-11, the specific narrative that the government gave out. He's questioning it in the slightest. But guess what, guys? Aliens. Like I said, the government's out here batting a thousand. They just get it right every time.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I mean that that seems so ridiculous that they would be upset that he's questioning something also i feel like the implication from this article is like he's denying 9-11 right be like are you crazy that's not what's happening at all wouldn't it be funny if there's like an alien spaceship in orbit around earth and they beam joe biden up there they're just like, what have you done? Why are you revealing our presence? And he's like, come on, man. They're going to arrest me.
Starting point is 00:33:31 What am I supposed to do? Got to throw him something to get him off my back. Proving he's like the least loyal person on Earth or in outer space. The UFO, though, thing is a rabbit hole that's crazy. I've dug into a tiny bit. If you look into the past, there were legitimate Fed hops where they were creating disinformation without within ufo research communities and the reasoning was like i know it sounds kooky but it's because a lot of times they were actually sort of digging into like secret stuff they were doing and so then they take some ufo truth and
Starting point is 00:33:56 guess what dude i'm uh i'm in the government and i have some special information for you let me tell you about the tyrarians from saturn 25 uh and then like this stuff just goes wild and then so like i don't know for me like i've been digging into a little bit throughout this like the whole ufo stuff and it's just like there's you can't trust anything when it comes to the government and aliens like who knows maybe they are real but i personally i completely default the opposite way so and what would like what would the benefit be right now for them to reveal it like we've talked about obviously distraction from other stuff that's going on but if the aliens are real what does the government get from telling you i feel like i just don't understand that you'll
Starting point is 00:34:33 listen to them because they've scared you with something else that was just when they plan to release that information it just so happens to always happen whenever some type of scandal is coming non-human biologics have been recovered now you must listen to us more i mean stop questioning us you put your psyop hat on though like as ridiculous as it is aliens super easy to pull off like you just have somebody come come out leak some information like so you don't actually have to have an event that really occurs you could have an event but it's like oh we you could make up an event that happened a decade ago or they could just take 10 000 drones like what's the the mavic drone they do those light shows and they can have a ship appear in in in the sky they can just fake
Starting point is 00:35:14 it you know and then be like oh what was that they'll do in a remote area everyone will film and they'll be like it was for your own good nobody Nobody even cares at this point. I wonder, you know, they've tried pushing the UFO thing so many times that nobody cares anymore at all to the point where when they came out and said non-human biologics are recovered, everyone's like, shut up, dude. Even the UFO truthers are like, nah, shut up.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Well, they're like, it's too expensive here. We don't, these things are for when we have luxury and freedom and extra cash. You have made it so we can't enjoy these crazy things because it's not fun to be here right now. It is extremely challenging to live under these conditions. Does anyone really believe that Donald Trump would have kept his mouth shut if there were aliens secretly in control of things? And even at this point with everything they're doing, he would just come out and be like, I'm going to tell you all because they're trying to put me in jail. Aliens are real. And you just come out and say it. And then they you all because they're trying to put me in jail aliens are real and you just come out say it and then they beg oh no he's
Starting point is 00:36:08 unveiling us but he won't he doesn't because it's not true they're just lying i mean to be fair they probably would never tell him about the aliens if there were aliens but uh yeah you're right yeah maybe that's the issue maybe you have you guys seen that viral video where it's uh that old guy i think he's like a foreman former canadian prime minister or something saying that aliens are real or something like that. And that they're telling us we have to reduce carbon and reduce the population. It's climate change. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Oh, wow. Exactly what the elites want. Isn't that weird? But that's exactly the point, right? Exactly. They want it because the aliens told them they have to do it. Also, why would we listen to the aliens? That seems crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:36:43 That was the plot of the of the independence day movie anyways that the aliens were here to to suck up our natural resources but i guess if all the natural resources are gone then it doesn't matter they'll just pass us by so if we get rid of our natural resources we'll prevent alien invasion exactly so actually baby exactly yeah what the heck this is the best idea of all time fracking in america now it saves us intergalactically yes why should i care about the aliens like what's what what is it right are they going to offer us immortality or something or like interdimensional travel or whatnot because like i gotta tell you
Starting point is 00:37:14 that happiness is relative we all live our lives we have our goals we have our passions we are living them when we reach the point of interstellar travel i'm sure it'll become a passion project for many people elon musk certainly is very passionate about space travel but what do we need from aliens like serious question has like when people had no refrigerators they got by and they were happy and then there was you know there were problems and challenges but what is what is it is the aliens are going to come to earth and give us future technology and make us all immortal or make the elites immortal so they got to do as they're told that's what i don't understand like are we supposed to be excited and wanting there to be aliens or are we supposed to be afraid of them because if it's we're supposed to fear them then i
Starting point is 00:37:54 understand why the government is like yep they're here listen to us the only people who know about them because that's just asking for compliance and if it's like the aliens have something positive to offer us i understand why the government would keep it a secret because they're, you know, the arbiter of all good things. Like, I just don't understand where they fit into anything that's relevant to my life. Yeah. It's also a big letdown for all the like the hardline UFO conspiracy theorists who've been waiting for that confirmation for decades, right? Because they've been waiting for that. There was an interview with Dean Haglund. He was one of the actors on The X-Files where he talks about, he's like, the sad part about being a conspiracy theorist
Starting point is 00:38:29 is at the end of the day, even if you're right, all you get to say is, I told you so. They don't even get that now. Like, now they're just stuck with, like, now they tell them that they're real. They're like, first of all, I can't trust you whether they're real or not. And it's kind of a letdown because gas is $9 gazillion a gallon
Starting point is 00:38:42 and everything's expensive. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I just feel like you're totally right tim if if trump knew about the aliens i definitely think he would have told us especially since he's the one who relaunched space command i feel like he would have been like i have good evidence oh maybe that's why he did it yeah maybe that's it okay so then why would he want it to be in alabama and why would biden want it to be in Colorado? That's just procedural bickering. Or do they like water? No, it's to fight the aliens.
Starting point is 00:39:09 But that's what I mean. Did Trump say they're defeated by water? You need to be close to the Gulf of... Wait, wait, wait. I figured it out. I figured out. I know what's going on. Check it out. Check it out. The aliens aren't here. They were here and they're coming back. And see, the and and the world
Starting point is 00:39:27 economic forum are like we better get on our knees and do everything the aliens expect otherwise they're gonna be mad and trump was like no we're gonna build weapons and fight back and they were like are you mad they'll they'll wipe us all out they're so advanced that's what's really it return to the lizard overlords that's right so earth is like the world's biggest airbnb and they're just coming back and we've left it a mess and they're just pissed about it well you know the conspiracy about like planet eris or whatever right i don't think conspiracy is the right word for these things more like insane ideas you know or like fringe ideas because like conspiracy is like people collude together to do a crime whatever but like one of these online uh theories is that there's a a planet that comes
Starting point is 00:40:10 within uh close within our solar system every 2500 years and so that yeah nibiru planet x what do you know about it surge and that it's it's it's coming back and the aliens who live on it genetically engineered humans to be like a slave race or whatever to mine gold and stuff like that it's a fun theory and when it comes back they just like scoop up some people no no they come here and they take out the gold and then they use the gold to uh maintain their atmosphere or something isn't gold at an all-time high right now it's great it goes somewhere down so many rabbit holes that's where nephilim like there's you can connect it to nephilim and all sorts of stuff it's a fun one genies and but really it's like in the
Starting point is 00:40:48 fed you guys are so creative i love the internet i recently had the q anon shaman on my show and we were legit we're talking about nibiru and how it connects to feel it was a fun time it was wild but it was something yeah i feel like that's not bad then like if we can just trade them gold i guess they like enslaved us in this this theory i'm not sure as long as we keep the silver i'm okay with it it would just be you know more fun if that stuff was true and i think people want that stuff to be true because the reality is life is mundane you know i tweeted this earlier like how is it people always say like how did it get so bad in insert country and it's like it never really did and what i mean by that is every day something small happened that no one thought was a big deal and then finally crazy stuff was going down that
Starting point is 00:41:31 people thought was normal to the outside world when they write the history book and condense it all we're like how did they go from this to this it's like no one noticed but even now people don't even notice crazy stuff's happening now and they just don't pay attention they're they're the algorithms they look at every day are pointing them in a different direction so they're kind of oblivious to the fact that a lot of this craziness stuff this crazy stuff is going on that's why i think trump's trial is so confusing to so many people because it seems like they're just going after him and they like they keep asking him to turn over documents then turn to come up with charges against him and like this actually happens all of the time.
Starting point is 00:42:05 It's just that we all know Trump and we have this information. So rather than for me to have to explain like one person and their story and the unique things and get everyone to understand it, we can all say, oh yeah, I remember Trump. Oh wow, this is happening. It becomes much more relatable.
Starting point is 00:42:16 It's something that's gone on for a long time. We just are suddenly realizing it. Let's come back down to earth. We got this story from the Daily Mail. This is big news. Tucker Carlson interviewed Devin Archer. This was surprising. I can't believe he got him.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Devin Archer tells Tucker Carlson, Joe knew he was on calls with Hunter's business partners. Associate says Biden brand was absolutely key to business deals and reveals the thank you letter the then VP sent him. So this is in the interview. Let me play this clip for you real quick from tucker's show here you go these are not business guys this is the vice president of the united states he's not allowed to be working on businesses with foreign governments while he's vice president
Starting point is 00:42:55 i don't think not that i know of but here he is right amazing he knew what he was doing devin archer confirms joe biden knew what he was doing. Devin Archer confirms Joe Biden knew what he was doing. Joe Biden was using his son as a proxy so that he could run business deals while vice president. And aside from Devin Archer's testimony to Congress, he's now on Tucker Carlson with a thank you letter from the VP. Biden said he never talked to any of Hunter's associates. That's the stupidest lie imaginable. He could have at least tried and said like, of course I know Hunter's associates. I don't work with them, but how do I not know my son's doing business with? He comes by for dinner. Yeah, well, that's their business. I'm in government.
Starting point is 00:43:34 They're doing business. No, he said, I never talked to him at all. And now the media is like trying to gaslight. And what was that one article said? It's long been known that Joe Biden was speaking with Hunter Biden's business associates. Actually not at all yeah i mean we found out recently but here you go meanwhile donald trump is being indicted for like the eight millionth time and uh what is it like mark rubio sent a tweet out we got some strongly word strongly worded letters finally so the other day all the law is the cudgel and the way they're the way our legal system is with so many laws you there's always something that you can get someone for. And this is a perfect example of it. You have Trump that's doing all these silly little things. And maybe technically by the letter of the law, there's some law somewhere that says they can't do X, Y, or Z. But then with someone like him, it's clearly not breaking it. There's not a will to actually enforce it. It's even worse because then maybe it's the worst thing that ever happened in the country. But at least Trump is a Russian spy. It's kind of cool. All this stuff is just boring.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. You know, Trump being a Russian spy, you're imagining, you know, Trump's got like this weird gadget kit in his jacket. And he like pulls out a little tiny earpiece and he's like, Vladimir, I'm in. Played by Dolph Lundgren. Sitting in the Oval Office. We did it. Yeah. Go for Eagle Commander.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Dolph Lundgren can play him in the movie from Rocky IV he's all ripped Trump just super ripped and sitting at the Oval Office well just like the taxes that was like five scandals ago and nobody remembers it and nobody cares because it's just like you said it's just a cudgel that they use
Starting point is 00:45:00 to get like Trump's taxes in particular it's just a cudgel that they use as a weapon against him because the law is used in an adversarial manner here. I think it's because, like I said before,
Starting point is 00:45:11 they're just trying to slow him down. And I think that's why the media is so freaked out by the credibility of the allegations against Hunter and Joe. The fact that this guy
Starting point is 00:45:20 can produce a thank you letter is kind of hilarious when they're over here like, we spent millions of dollars on this investigation and we think maybe these things happened. I think it was a text between Hunter Biden and Devin Archer where Devin is like, why is your family destroying my life and trying to put me in prison? Or it's like, why is your dad's administration and appointees trying to destroy my life? And Hunter's like, this is the cost of a free country or something like that what it actually sounds like is you were of you're no
Starting point is 00:45:49 longer of use to these people and now they're disposing of the loose threads you got to clean up shop you don't want people to find out what was going on and devin archer tony bobulinski they've been able to come out and provide evidence into the criminal or shady dealings of the uh biden family do you think joe ever looked at Devin Archer and was like, I wish I could trade you for Hunter, but people already know what Hunter looks like. Because that's really the biggest loose end of the Biden family. I mean, that guy is just leaving laptops everywhere
Starting point is 00:46:16 and children in his wakes. You know what I mean? Like this seems like the biggest loose end, but there's nothing you can do about it. So this is what the Biden family has created for themselves. But most people are still, like I said, they,
Starting point is 00:46:28 they still have their mind made up. We, we covered a thing earlier today. We're like Amber Heard. Remember Amber Heard? Like last year, she pooped on a bed, but like they had a thing where like,
Starting point is 00:46:36 she like lost a brand deal with L'Oreal. And they, they showed all these letters from women who still to this day, talk about her. Like she's the greatest thing that ever happened to feminism. And she helped me realize how important it was if you if you heard depending on where you get your information from you just don't know and you're just going to be tricked into believing that this is a good guy so the average person who doesn't pay attention to the news cycle
Starting point is 00:46:57 doesn't hear any of this stuff that's going on with joe there's the actual clip of him saying i made this as a quid pro quo quid pro quo in ukraine and nobody knows about it nobody cares because the average person isn't paying attention and that's who they've weaponized the dumbing down of america through corporate press yeah and i actually think teams i think it's somewhat inverted i think people in this country have been stupid for a long time i should say ignorant because of mass media you only got information from a few sources and now with the internet we're becoming more educated and informed on what's happening but it's targeted you're choosing where you're getting your media from you or i or everyone here may be privy to looking at right and left wing media the average
Starting point is 00:47:39 person doesn't do that and we just follow we didn't have that 20 years exactly the average person just follows cnn because whether we believe cnn or not they think that they're getting informed by somebody from there or msnbc and it's even more targeted than it used to be the point is that 20 years ago cnn was your only choice obviously there's fox cb cbs abc but they all said the exact same things for the most part now you have the ability to have dissident media i don't think the average like i just i feel like the average person still doesn't look at that as a value of course what i'm saying is we we assume now that they're lying to us like no they've always been lying to us we just have the ability to go online and communicate with each other i think part of it
Starting point is 00:48:19 is politics are like sports teams i like some people feel to their core that they are a capital r republican they are a capital r republican they are a capital d democrat and nothing you say will convince them that anyone on their team did anything wrong i mean think about actual sports teams will go get uh players who commit very obvious and well-documented case of like domestic violence and the team is like oh yeah that was the worst anyways he's gonna sit out a couple games and then we'll bring it back like people aren't saying i'm now renouncing this team which is supporting you know some terrible person who doesn't live in the values that i support with biden it's very easy for people on
Starting point is 00:48:54 in the democratic party to say like well i'm a democrat i only want democrats to win right now my options are joe biden and his crazy family or rfk jr or mar Marianne Williamson, if she's still hanging out. And that's it. And so they're going to cling and defend Biden because they are trapped. Right. If you're back since a while, you're going to stick with your team. Same for Republicans. There are Republicans who will say, you know, I am this kind of Republican and Trump can never be. And I this is how the Republican Party should be like. They become completely obsessed with the team. They think they have to show loyalty to even when the team lets them down. Kennedy williamson 2024 oh my gosh what a crazy let's go i feel like those podcasts would be amazing you gotta think the demographic of people who actually vote is
Starting point is 00:49:35 typically older too and so you were mentioning the dissonant media point and it's like i do feel like we're almost experiencing like a rise in class consciousness but like with this new dissonant medias and stuff coming up but let's be real typically the older generations aren't quite buying on to it so this is gonna be a lagging trend that takes a while to come into place but um good oh no good how polite i'll moderate here i lost my train what were you gonna say i was waiting for your question no but now like now i feel bad like the but the but the democrats are the ones weaponizing influencers and the youth because they want to get the youth vote and they want to get people out in voting more than they were before. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah, but they're LOL cows. Like, let's be real. Most of them. Yeah. And I feel like Democrats for a long time have been like, no, no, it doesn't matter who you vote for. We just want you to vote. But specifically, here are the candidates you should vote for. I mean, there are things that, you know, the Republican Party and a lot of other political parties that are out there could have done,
Starting point is 00:50:27 meaning they could have treated the get out the vote effort like it was this, you know, Trojan horse. We're just trying to talk to young people when actually it was obviously Democrats trying to connect with youth voters. I think that's, again, why the civic engagement conversation
Starting point is 00:50:41 that Vivek Ramaswamy brings up is really interesting because I think people do, especially now that they have access to alternative forms of media online, feel called to do something, right? If you get to hear all this awful stuff all the time, you can either collapse in depression or act. And I think that's what people want. And that's why, you know, the Democratic Party is still pointing fingers and they're becoming less appealing. Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Thank you for your consent. Sometimes I feel like I come on the show and just like talk to myself in the mirror for an hour, which is like maybe not the best. I don't know, man. I'm just thinking about 2024 is around the corner and we are lucky right now to be, here's what we're doing. we're all sitting on the beach
Starting point is 00:51:26 miami beach in fancy chairs with coconuts going oh that joe biden you hear about this and then off in the distance there is the biggest hurricane we have ever seen and it is coming where we are right now is the chill time with all the craziness they're doing with the devon archer stuff with the indictments against trump that's just us seeing lightning off in the distance what's going to happen next year we're talking i mean dude we're talking five or six months from now so we're looking at about what eight months no not even seven months until the primary trump's first criminal trial is going to be then it is going to be wild bonkers could you imagine if it's not though like it's just nothing happens and we're sitting here and like nobody
Starting point is 00:52:11 cares about politics nobody's watching anymore and they're just like we don't care anymore and they're just that's it biden wins again there's no one really talks about it it is funny how like i feel like in the past used to be able to actually make more accurate political predictions to some extent. But now we've gotten to the point to where there are so many factors and so many crazy things. Like, just Trump and Biden alone, between the two of them, the two scandals going on there, like, those are both insane scandals on their own, just, like, in different ways, obviously. But, I don't know, it's just, it's like trying to predict the future or have an idea of what's going on. Like, I was just talking on the airport to somebody today but in the airplane today
Starting point is 00:52:47 about like whether biden will run and i'm like i have no idea like i mean it seems a silly idea to do so but same time we're getting so close do you really not i i don't know like how do you get another four years of this guy without actually making a clone i don't know i think i i think there's a strong possibility that in biden's old age and with his existing ailments something happens to him and i imagine what would be for the democrats the most beneficial thing imaginable would be if like gavin newsom is at a biden rally and talking about how he's here to support Joe Biden and Joe Biden's the greatest president. And then Biden suffers like some health ailment or something. He fell on stage that one time, maybe he has a stroke time. Well, like you've tripped
Starting point is 00:53:37 in the sandbags, but he's fallen upstairs. But imagine the scenario where Biden's is speaking at some kind of rally or whatever, or just on TV, maybe because I can't really muster up anybody to come to a Biden rally. Gavin Newsom is there. I think it's likely going to be him. And then Biden collapses. Gavin runs to save him all on TV. Get a medic in here. And then there's this, oh, the news. Oh, no. Oh, Joe Biden. Cue all the conservatives being like, we don't like the guy, but we're really sad about what happened to him. Gavin Newsom steps up and starts talking about how, you know, this is a time for leadership.
Starting point is 00:54:07 He's being interviewed by everybody because he was there. Every news outlet sits him down and says like, what was it like? What do you think? What now? Who's going to step up? Will you? And there you go.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Newsom 2024. They're like, these are great ideas. No, they're not taking notes. They're looking through their book going like, How did he get a copy of this? He's halfway there. How did he get a copy? But I'm imagining,
Starting point is 00:54:30 because we're talking about if Donald Trump didn't call the police, like didn't order the police to shut down the 529 insurrection and let Antifa just run rampant, he'd be president because the narrative would be inverted. And you know, Michael Maus saying,
Starting point is 00:54:42 ah, the media would still lie about him. But I'm like, yeah, but they wouldn't have the J6 narrative. They would have the extremism of the far left and regular Americans would be asking why this happened. Yeah. I'm trying to think about, let's think forward in that context. Like what could the Democrats do? What could Trump do to guarantee a victory? And obviously Joe Biden is not the guy. Trump's already beating him in a whole bunch of polls. He's at tying with or beating him. And so everyone speculated that Joe Biden won't be the guy. But how do you get Joe Biden out if he bows out? It's weakness in the Democratic Party. It's got to be something
Starting point is 00:55:14 that can pass the torch. If Joe Biden went on stage and said, you know, I'm just too old. So Gavin Newsom, ladies and gentlemen, now would never fly. But if there's a hero moment for Gavin where he steps in to try and save Biden, that gives him every PR opportunity in the book. Yeah, especially because they don't want him to pick another white man over Kamala Harris, because there was a time when I think the Democratic Party really wanted her to be the obvious choice. They were hoping Biden would be a one term president and that she would, as the vice president, be the next one to represent the party because she's diverse and a lady and, you know, whatever else important. So they have to find a way to make it so that Gavin, you know, gracefully as a hero becomes
Starting point is 00:55:54 the obvious one. It's not that she's being overlooked. It's that he just happened to be in this, you know. What's the justification for Gavin being in the press 24-7 and lived to an election? Because he was there and they're gonna say gavin you are heroically on camera seen rushing to the aid of joe what was that like what was going through your head he'll be like his last words to me were yep you gotta take the helm something like that i don't even know if people would buy it anymore no he's gonna
Starting point is 00:56:22 say he's gonna say you know tell jill i love her and take care of my kids and then gavin's gonna start crying and he's gonna be like you got it man and he's gonna clench his hand and then they're gonna be like wow gavin newsome take care of my six i mean seven grandkids that statement made me brutal crazy i know it was another show on friday when that came out but i was the fact the arrogance of these people to be like we care about all of our grandchildren including navy who we just happened to learn about 30 seconds ago like where have you been this whole time this is what i mean by like how can anyone look at the biden family and be like four more years this is
Starting point is 00:57:05 going so well i think the average person just doesn't know any of this is i really do i really do they don't know that his family life is this screwed up they don't even know about the diary they don't know about the laptop but that's why the navy statement came out in people magazine they didn't say it to the new york times they said it to people magazine because they're trying to present themselves as like a let us get out in front of this luckily people magazine all kinds of outlets have already covered the fact that this you know super great guy hunter just ditched his other kid and doesn't want to use last name like i just don't understand this family and their appeal so unless the democrat my only counter to the the gavin newsom rushing to uh joe biden's aid story would be like, if the Democratic Party starts to turn tables and be like,
Starting point is 00:57:47 we had no idea that he was working on these deals. And this is a dishonor to us. I don't know that they could execute it perfectly. I don't think so. Because it's collateral damage. Then what he does is Joe's finally going to sniff one kid too many and Gavin heroically steps between them. One of Gavin's kids. And Gavin says,
Starting point is 00:58:08 not on my watch. He pushes him away. I got it. Joe, at an event, goes to sniff a kid and Gavin heroically steps in between making Joe accidentally sniff Gavin, triggering the stroke. Interesting. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's the hero narrative they need from him like we didn't know joe was doing any of this it's we need to go through his schedule and see when he and gavin newsom are appearing on stage together and we all need to brace ourselves to get joe biden out of this it needs to be a heroic retreat it could theoretically be something like he has a health scare and then has to publicly announce that he's done everything he can. But as you know, this is a tough job and it's been very taxing. I'm not the young man I used to be. That's a light possibility or terminal. He'd have to be like, I actually only have six months.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And then he looks at the camera and says, America, I ask you for one thing with my final statement to you. Vote Democrat, man. We're going to we're going to fix it. Don't let these fascists. It's something like that. Yeah. I'm headed to the big ice cream shop up in the sky. You're right.
Starting point is 00:59:15 You're still right that like they would need to really find a big way of introducing Gavin Newsom over Kamala Harris, because I think if the Biden administration and the Democratic Party turn to Kamala Harris, they're going to isolate a lot of voters. But with numbers like that, who even wants to? I'm not saying she's popular. I'm just saying there are a lot of people who feel like the Democratic Party needs to be led by a woman who is of color. And to turn it over to another white man would be bad.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I hope they run Kamala. They can't run Kamala. Kamala doesn't have the support. But they will be mad if they don't think about it. She doesn't have the, how do I say, cognitive faculties. I thought they were going to run Michelle Obama. But obviously with Joe Biden, we proved we don't need that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Good point. Yeah. Who is of higher mental status? I thought they were going to run Michelle. Michelle Obama. I thought that was going to be a thing. So my understanding is that they do want to run Michelle, but Michelle doesn't want to run. I don't blame her.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yeah. I mean, it's like. That's the most relatable thing I've ever heard from Michelle Obama. I don't blame her. Who wants to run? Like, seriously, who would? I can't even believe Vivek wants to run. I was like, y'all are crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Especially given that, like, Obama's, I mean, they're very wealthy now. They don't need to do this. They own, like, three production companies. She goes on yachts in Italy she's having a great time yeah can you imagine the stress can you imagine
Starting point is 01:00:28 the campaigns against her especially the memes all the big mic stuff and all that stuff it'd be I don't know it'd be I mean I'd love it
Starting point is 01:00:33 it'd be fun to watch but uh also like Hillary Clinton held office before she ran like Michelle Obama was the first lady and then was like yeah
Starting point is 01:00:42 and we're in it would be such a nothing matters anymore cringy diversity point like i don't know i wouldn't want to be what are your credentials i slept with the previous president no that you know hey school lunch program stuff yeah yeah she wanted kids to lose weight i guess but that's not that's not good in today's day and age you can't say that now to rewind a little bit back to the point i was making about
Starting point is 01:01:05 you know we're sitting on the beach looking at the storm off in the distance we know the storm's coming so what do we do now right what are what are what what do we do to prevent the worst elements of the storm if anything could be done right i'm not i'm not sure humans have the ability to fight a hurricane off so i think the reality is going to be don't like get ready in a matter of speaking meaning like do you know where the eggs are in your house you know uh do you have somewhere to go in the event of mass unrest in cities because that's extremely likely i think we're gonna see a ton of rioting throughout the summer but i could be wrong who knows i think there's a decent possibility that like nothing happens and we're just like wow nothing happened there's a lot of political bickering in the news like we're seeing now but i i really feel like when trump his trials are coming up he's going
Starting point is 01:01:56 to be in multiple criminal trials the news is going to be the craziest you've ever heard cnn is going to be salivating they're already salivating the idea of covering what are we on four three i think but the with with with fulton county yeah yeah i mean with fulton county so you've got new york classified documents 2020 and fulton county you're gonna have four different criminal proceedings all going on around the exact same time. Maybe what actually happens is that people just turn the TV off. Figuratively, I mean, like I can't track all these criminal proceedings. I'm done. Maybe that's what they want to happen.
Starting point is 01:02:35 This would be a point. Yeah. Well, that's the point, right? They want people to say he's guilty by sheer volume of things that he's. But I think it'll have the opposite effect. I think for some people, it'll have, it have it'll be too much noise like how could he possibly be guilty of all of these things all of these trials happen to happen at once like you can't take it all in so you start to say like i just don't believe you and i don't want to have this conversation anymore i don't want to watch anymore of this i've seen both on youtube comments just today i said someone one person is saying
Starting point is 01:02:59 like well if my i don't want someone that's been indicted like why would i want to elect someone that's been indicted for anything another person saying he's been indicted for four different things like there's no way that he's been indicted for there's no way he did all these things how would he have the time to do that and and do all this there's just no way it would be possible so it goes both ways a lot of people went out a lot of people would take the where there's smoke there's fire yes approach and they're just like well why why would they lie why would they lie about that and they'll just assume that well if four different jurisdictions all came to this conclusion of their own accord, mind you,
Starting point is 01:03:28 there was no backroom dealings at all, I'm sure, that he must be guilty. But I think it's people who already think he's guilty. There must be no Republican district attorneys. Yeah. There must be no Republican prosecutors anywhere.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Right. They're all like, you know what I'm going to do? We're in West Virginia. I'm going to go to like find a local prosecutor's office and I'm going to ask him, why is a Democrat?
Starting point is 01:03:46 And they, well, I'm not. I'll be like, come on. If you were actually a Republican, you'd be criminally charging these people. The Hillary Clinton stuff took place in West Virginia. They ran elections nationwide. Her name was on the ballot, right? So when she tried to defraud the country and the fraud
Starting point is 01:04:01 led to a massive 30 plus million dollar investigation as to whether trump was secretly working for the soviet union how come there's no there's no criminal charges for that because the republicans are timid and democrats play for keeps i think it's because republicans are democrats and they're just pretending they're not they're going the speed limit but but it's but but that's the saying but i'm like no actually they're probably kevin mccarthy's going behind the scenes and high-fiving, you know. Uniparty.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Right. Yeah, we're talking about Trump here, so it's not really so much a left or it's right thing. It's an establishment versus, I guess you could say dissident would be a good way to describe the other energy. And I think Tim's right. I think there will be people checking out, but I think that will be more the right to some extent, roughly. The people that are in the know, because they know, like, this is nonsense. You're just throwing a bunch of stuff at it this is just static at this point but i think that on the flip side the left we may see especially if he inevitably probably gets off or if he does get
Starting point is 01:04:52 elected they'll be screeching the streets all over again we'll see all that nonsense again but i think the right's going to start retreating locally like the the people of the right like the the voter base they're going to start retreat local embracing localism and and honestly that's kind of the better way to go yeah i think this is sort of an answer to your question of like if we're on the beach right now and we know the storm is coming when do we decide to leave the the beach and go make sure our home's okay like i would like to see you know we might not be able to stop whatever crazy fighting is about to happen on the federal level but it would be interesting to see people say like well how do i protect myself at home how do i insulate it who runs your school board who
Starting point is 01:05:28 runs your school board who runs your elections who's running your town what what decisions are they making because again in some ways the worst part about all of this is that it's a big distraction from the the tiny decision what feel feels like tiny but they're actually massive in your own life right they make all make all the decisions. Like your personal relationships, the people who live around you. The decisions for zoning or anything else that happens locally to you. That stuff is way more likely to affect you on a daily basis than any of the large scale national politics. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:56 So to Tim's point, like it's that we have to decide it's time to leave the beach and go make sure our homes are okay. I don't know if I agree with that. I certainly agree that local politics are extremely important but it's it's probably a balance of sorts i mean the stuff we saw with the federal government esg woke policies the department of education the curriculum stuff they push you've got like the complaints over common core which was several years ago now you've got the schools pushing all this you know know, gratuitous content. All of this comes
Starting point is 01:06:25 to the federal level. Sure, but the only way to stop it coming down from the federal level is have someone fighting up against it. Like, you need both sides of these things.
Starting point is 01:06:32 And so I'm saying, it's not that you can ignore the federal election. I'm just saying, like, it would be good to not get so lost on if Trump did this or whatever
Starting point is 01:06:40 that you don't know who's running in your own county. I just feel like, to some extent, the federal move is almost a lost cause, maybe not, but I think there is something to be. For example, one thing I liked about DeSantis is he was making moves
Starting point is 01:06:52 within his state where he was kind of in a sense distancing himself somewhat from the federal government and doing his own thing, kind of almost a soft nullification, soft sessions in some ways. And I personally would like to see that energy continue to go forward and start separating yourself further where you can so that federal government has less effect on your life so we just start ignoring democrats and whenever they talk we just go i can't hear you i can't hear you nope nope no one's is someone there is someone talking i have no idea let's talk about something completely uh irreverent irrelevant but uh you know let's lighten the mood a little
Starting point is 01:07:22 bit so this is a big story. Former Lizzo dancers were weight shamed and pressured while at strip club, lawsuit says. I like how it says pressured while at strip club. Not for the kids, I will say. But we'll keep the overt language to a minimum. And my understanding is that they were actually physically abused at these clubs they were they were pressured into doing things and i i don't know if we can say that on air here but uh bananas were put places bananas aren't supposed to go and then they were told to eat them from the places oh no don't blame
Starting point is 01:07:59 me i'm just the messenger here uh okay but here's i do blame you as the pop culture hose yeah here's here's the important part of the story that's why we're talking about it because lizzo was weight shaming yes dancers lizzo lizzo is morbidly obese there can only be one okay this is my question is she saying like you're too heavy or she's saying you're not heavy enough she's basically that's a great question no one has asked that yet i want to that's a great question if you really want to be on my tour you'll eat all of the donuts like no one has said it explicitly i don't understand we spent about 20 minutes talking about it today so i'm i'm about over this whole discussion i'll be completely fair but it's uh i mean that's not the worst there's really funny like mixed messages where she's got, a lady who works on the tour with her
Starting point is 01:08:45 who's, like, very religious, but also, like, simulating sex acts in front of people. It's the weirdest. It almost feels fake, how over-the-top the story is, but it's going to cost her a little bit. I'll be honest. I don't really care about the inner politics of Lizzo, but the issue I see is culturally.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Culturally, we have this body positivity thing they say lizzo is beautiful but then inside this you know this company or whatever they're telling these these people they're too fat so it's it's something like what is this how does this how do these things coexist yeah also think this, like the point that they're saying, like they're at a strip club, going to strip clubs is like all of the women I know who propose to be sex positive feminists are like, going to the strip club is empowering and it's good and you should go. So it's this clash of cultures where it's like,
Starting point is 01:09:38 if you don't go, then you are not sex positive enough. That's literally what we're talking about. And also when you go, you're forced to do things you're uncomfortable with and maybe Lizzo fat shames you or perhaps she skinny shames you. It's unclear.
Starting point is 01:09:49 This is one of those things where they're talking about like, look, if this had been- Well, the dancers were overweight. Yeah. But were they overweight enough? I don't know. You need to put on a hundred pounds.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I'm just saying, she doesn't want- You're gonna dance for me. It's like the stories of like brides who get their bridesmaids ugly bridesmaids dresses so that they look better by comparison. just want to know what direction this was happening the plizzos name is melissa yes that changes everything she's um these are the people
Starting point is 01:10:15 that push a very very toxically positive message meaning like that that you have to feign positivity at all times which is not how the real world works. And as you learn invariably, like I said earlier, anybody who puts be kind in a profile is the meanest person you've ever met in your entire life. It's the same in these industries, the harder the virtue signal, the worse they are as a boss,
Starting point is 01:10:36 as an employer, as a general human being. And if you read more of the story, like I said, I'm going to spare everyone. Okay. It's no, no,
Starting point is 01:10:43 no. I got a question about this. I'm not going to read it and i'm going to keep the language as as vague as i can but nbc news says okay no don't pull this up stick it out all right all right nbc news says cast members took turns catching objects launched from certain areas of the body. How do you launch those things? Ask the people at this strip club. Just a fun company activity. The best part about it is there's like an interview
Starting point is 01:11:14 with her from like two years before this happened where she talks about how she always wanted to go to this one strip club and that this was the red light district in Amsterdam, right? So she's like basically, I love bananas. I want to go there to this strip club and now it's in Amsterdam. Right. So she's like, basically, I was like, I love bananas. I want to go there to this strip club. And now it's coming back to bite her because she's nuts.
Starting point is 01:11:31 So why? I'm sorry. You're all men. I don't get the appeal of strip clubs. Perhaps you understand something I don't. But this, no, this is also one of those,
Starting point is 01:11:38 this is one of those things where like, look, they were basically shamed into doing this. You're like, well, if you don't come with you, like, you don't have to, but we'll judge you. If you would be like Tim saying like, well, if you don't come with, you... You don't have to, but we'll judge you if you don't.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It would be like Tim saying, hey, Brett, you want to go skating on Saturday? I mean, you don't have to come, but you might not have a job on Monday if you don't come with me. That's literally what it... Or for the rest of the tour, we'll just treat you like you're a weirdo. Exactly. Well, they said she would do other concerts that were not part of the tour. And only the people who hung out with her outside at these events were the ones who got those jobs so it's basically just like do you remember when oh no okay so recently robert downey jr had a thing where he
Starting point is 01:12:12 talked about how after making oppenheimer he said women should run the world junior was in that in in oppenheimer yeah he said women she's like what this movie taught me is that women should run the world because they have a better way of handling problems this is the exact proof to the opposite of that that i don't know if it would be better but or if it would be worse but it's certainly not going to be any better don't like being a bad boss is not gendered doesn't like every military industrial complex corporation have like a female ceo or something not all right now but yeah like a couple years ago yeah it's like women should run the run the world and it's like here's a bunch of women that are blowing up kids boeing is like yeah let's do that both men and women are equally bad and
Starting point is 01:12:48 good at resolving problems but i do not think women should exclusively run the world it's like when people say like there should be an all-women supreme court like what are you talking about terrible idea the way i see it look no no no men and women are different right men are object oriented women are subject oriented so what happens is when you've got like a hillary clinton and like a barack obama obama sees a map and on the map he sees a military base and he says i think we should uh bought that military base and then like oh let's get let's confer with hillary what she thinks and hillary says we should blow up those people yeah so you see what i'm saying like ob Obama is targeting some object of some merit
Starting point is 01:13:25 and Hillary is like, I hate them, blow them up. So you're saying women are evil is what you're saying. At least she's being honest about what's going to happen. But what it is, it really is, it shines a light on the toxic positivity that this is what Hollywood and all of these industries push. It's an unrealistic expectation of how human beings interact. And invariably, just like men behind the scenes, a bad, you know, a bad tour manager, a bad
Starting point is 01:13:49 boss, a bad celebrity is not, is not restricted to one gender or one type of person. But very often it is true that the people who feign the most kind of heart or who pretend to be the most good of heart or good of virtue end up being the worst type of people. And I don't think that has anything to do with a weight sexuality or a gender yeah you did bring up a good point before we started that this was the essentially a inverse of the casting couch in a sense and in multiple ways i think but it is it is funny how that literally is the casting couch situation but in a different setting and so in this setting maybe the illusion is supposed to be somewhat okay with that i'm not i actually don't even know it should be
Starting point is 01:14:27 necessarily illegal but she should be shamed like she's being i just want to give it hazing i want to give a shout out to the babylon b for like the best response to this with an article they titled three dancers sue lizzo alleging she ate them and their entire families uh joey b toon joey b toon said uh good luck to convincing that judge that the that lizzo shared food that was so funny um yeah it's just it is it is just a microcosm of just how awful it's okay to make fun of her though because she's apparently some kind of rapist so you know she's you know just a very bad person the the rest of the stories the stuff with the the assist the manager who was also making everyone uncomfortable and the threats to people's job keeping people
Starting point is 01:15:09 working for like 12 hours at a time after a concert and saying you're gonna lose your job if you don't do that a lady who worked for her urinated on herself because she was afraid to go backstage and go to the bathroom because she felt she'd lose her job that's the type of thing you'd hear of a guy that a guy would be the one who's such a hard boss that I felt like I couldn't leave. Otherwise, I would end up having to. No, female bosses are just as whack as male bosses. I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Well, you and I know that. The average person. It's just almost worse because it's like emotional manipulation. But my favorite is the data showing that men and women equally don't hire women at the same rates so these women are like women should be in charge and then things would change and it's like the women who are in charge like i'd rather have a guy the women enforcing the patriarchy there was also there was also talk that there was racialized elements to this like that the the black dancers were treated different than the dancers of color uh there are no white dancers but dancers of color
Starting point is 01:16:02 no white dancers not racist no no but but the point is that they're saying that certain ones were treated differently and it's all it all kind of falls together it's like it's hollywood they deserve each other let them let them fight wow you don't say it at big girl touring yes i'm just yes you know it's the body positivity thing is what i first noticed from this story i mean the story's whole like wholly messed up as it is we had like nine articles it was it is we had like nine articles it was like literally split between like nine articles because of all the stuff that came out about this today i just think how does lizzo get famous like do people really like her music yes yeah yes she had some like cool songs that i was really she had one i think she has insulin
Starting point is 01:16:40 resistance i i don't know anything about her is that the new single i know that she released um that would be lizzo i have insulin resistance i was trying to be funny i was being serious i think i think she because she's on stage and she's working like dancing no that's the point she's talking about like the other dancers can't keep up with her because she's like actually in better shape than them right and the reason she doesn't lose weight is because she has insulin resistance probably from like a very poor American, you know, high sugar diet.
Starting point is 01:17:08 I wish her the best. I hope she can figure that one out. If she comes out with, I have insulin resistance. It reminds me of like Kevin Costner being like, yes, maybe stuff happened, but I'm choosing to live as a gay man.
Starting point is 01:17:18 No, that was Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey. Thank you. I can't remember any actor's name. Sure. I was accused of that, but I'm gay.
Starting point is 01:17:22 And if I did, it's a drunken mistake. By the way, some news about me. He didn't get any actor's name. Well, sure, I was accused of that, but I'm gay. And if I did, it's a drunken mistake. By the way, some news about me. He didn't get convicted in the UK. They let him off. No, but I mean, the thing is, Lizzo had some, I don't remember which one, the one about being broken up with.
Starting point is 01:17:39 She wrote some song and it was not a hit and she was like, if this isn't a hit, then I don't know. She really does understand pop music in a way it's just that everything about her since she's gotten famous has become like about the body positivity movement about accept me the way i am about actually praise me the way i am and i think that's the problem like it's not like i don't know like adele used to be really heavy and she sang some fun music and she was a pop star and it was a good time. She got backlash
Starting point is 01:18:05 when she got skinny. Then she went all right and got skinny. I'm going to write this song. What kind of song should it be? Should it be like Acoustic Folk? Or should it be
Starting point is 01:18:12 called Insulin Resistance? Yes. Yes. Let's go. Acoustic Folk, like heartfelt and like downbeat. Definitely heartfelt,
Starting point is 01:18:21 that's for sure. Heartfelt, you know, or maybe punk rock. Yeah. That sounds like, Insulin Resistance does sound, feel like it could be like-
Starting point is 01:18:29 I don't know. I'm thinking dance. Disco. Disco. Yeah. You know, I've been listening to some disco recently because we were listening to Boney M. Oh, no way.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Because Boney M is so good. Sweet. Maybe we should write a disco song. Yeah. See if we can get Lizzo to, like, I wonder how much it costs to get Lizzo, as like a feature on the i don't think she's gonna be want to want to be on my sure sure we could try i don't think lizzo's gonna want to be on a song titled lizzo has insulin resistance well it could just be called insulin resistance this has to be
Starting point is 01:18:57 called lizzo has insulin resistance and it's and it's not meant to be mean i want to make it very clear i am genuinely concerned about the bad dieting habits of Americans and it's a point to be critical of someone who would weight shame her own staff while she herself is currently suffering from a weight issue
Starting point is 01:19:18 she's also counting on you not being mean to her because of her size I still think she's shaming her dancers saying they're too skinny. I think it's the other way around. I mean, there's different types of fat. She's clearly like O-line healthy type fat. You know what I mean? Like can move.
Starting point is 01:19:32 You know what I mean? But that's the thing. That's why I said insulin resistance. I wasn't making a joke. Like people. I was the one being mean. You see these videos where it's like people who are very big are like moving really well. Linebackers.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah. And there's videos of skateboarders, for instance. You'll see on Instagram where they're huge, but they'll like moving really well linebackers there's yeah yeah and there's videos of skateboarders for instance you'll see on instagram where they're huge but they'll be skating really well and i'm just like this is somebody who's got i don't know if it's insulin resistance but some kind of like i don't know thyroid problem or glandular issue that their body isn't burning the fat but they clearly are building muscle and ability i see lizzo and i'm like this is this is something about the garbage plastic we eat in our food every day the brominated flowers the phthalates the pcbs all of that stuff because the story i hear over and over again i swear i ask everybody this they say oh i was from this country and when i came to
Starting point is 01:20:20 america i ate the exact same thing but i gained 30 pounds and people say uh you know when i went back to visit my family for a few weeks i lost 10 pounds it was crazy like something is wrong with our food but let's jump to this next story seemingly irreverent and irrelevant as well ladies and gentlemen the u.s has banned light bulbs nice so uh so how are you guys doing i remember when i took ap environmental science when i was in high school and having to do a project where we went to we went to our our middle school and then convince them that the swirly led whatever they are the better light bulbs were in fact better and if we didn't do that then you know we didn't get as good a grade on the project and now i really regret that because that was complete propaganda paid for by college board this is kind of crazy though i mean the the
Starting point is 01:21:04 big story is they've banned incandescent light bulbs. You can only now buy LED light bulbs because they last longer and use less electricity. It's kind of crazy. I mean, how do they just ban something like that? Isn't that an act of Congress?
Starting point is 01:21:18 They've been phasing it in for years though. They've been doing it for a while. It's really funny. There's an episode of, I think it was the show Castle, where they catch a guy who works for like the city transit authorities like they've been phasing out incandescent to compact fluorescent he's selling the incandescence overseas and i think the whole like the idea is that it's ridiculous and why would that happen but that's
Starting point is 01:21:37 obviously you know between that and your gas stove and they they said they were going to do it and they made you all excited it's about the environment and now like i know tons of people who will see the other light bulbs and be like okay no big deal like led lasts longer it's better for the environment and like perhaps that's true i just don't like it when the government is like so we're going to introduce it makes me want to have an incandescent life i know you look at look at old videos like if you have like vhs tapes or anything like if you have like home videos where there's lights on out in the streets when you were growing up unless and notice that all those lights are orange, and now you don't
Starting point is 01:22:08 see orange light anywhere outside. But look, my point is, how does the Biden administration just unilaterally decree that a certain product can no longer be sold? But it wasn't the Biden administration, was it? Yes. The Biden administration on Tuesday adopted two new rules that set stricter energy-efficient standards for light bulbs.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Those standards will phase out the sale of most new incandescent bulbs. But they've been trying to phase out incandescent bulbs for years. I mean, well before. Right. And Congress will need to pass a law banning incandescent light bulbs. Joe Biden can't just decree it. It's the shadowy forces from big bulb that have been lobbying. Should we should we sue because we want our incandescent light bulbs?
Starting point is 01:22:44 Yes. I mean, I then be like, only Congress can do it. This is what I think is the weirdest thing about the Biden administration, which is they were like, we're for the environment
Starting point is 01:22:51 and therefore we can justify anything we want by saying it's for the betterment of the environment. You know what this means? You got a new shirt. You got a come and take it shirt. It's the light bulb.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Oh, that's a good idea. The light bulb. With the light bulb on it. I honestly don't care about incandescent light bulbs at all. You put the light bulb above a gas stove's a good idea. The light bulb. With the light bulb on it. I honestly don't care about the light bulbs at all. You put the light bulb above a gas stove. I bet someone made that up.
Starting point is 01:23:09 And the pizza oven. Yeah, exactly. Did it say if it was through executive order? Because, I mean, I'm wondering. It just says he adopted rules. Because that's,
Starting point is 01:23:16 I believe the actual supposed, like what's supposed to be the purpose of executive orders is to kind of provide clarification for existing things that are happening
Starting point is 01:23:24 of how this is how we're going to do it so they like she like i believe they probably have been having legislation go for forever so that's the way i can understand it the pistol brace thing has been rejected i believe judge states the uh rule regulating pistol braces under nfa is likely unconstitutional you can't just keep banning things like this you can't just be like i hereby decree so you know maybe we need to uh not because i like incandescent light bulbs actually i'm not a fan i like led better but uh it's the it's the it's the principle of the matter maybe maybe we should sue the federal government and say you have no authority to ban light bulbs in this way protest put some incandescents up here in the studio start manufacturing our own incandescents so that we're not selling them we're buying them we're making
Starting point is 01:24:08 our own yeah that's how you solve these problems i guess the uh the the the it's climate it's a climate change agenda thing yeah but what i think is that what it actually is is um you know you know what i think about the security at airports why they make you throw away your shampoo to sell more shampoo yeah that makes sense because they're they're like oh you you can't bring that liquid in here because we don't know what it is and then it's just like you walk behind the security and there's a whole bunch of really dangerous chemicals for sale at like these various news but they're in small quantities so it's safer they tell you like what if i bought more though there's this dude named evan booth and i i uh went and met up with him he did this project where he was able to make various weapons combustibles and things like that within uh not not in an airport but with things
Starting point is 01:24:57 found within an airport so you cross security you go to the store what can you buy i won't say them now on this show but yes we were able to make um improvised grenades using things you can buy in an airport so the fact that that research had been done this is like 12 years ago and that we have not seen substantial substantial moves on this what i see is the reason the government made these rules is because they're like it's going to increase sales at these uh locations in the airports which will generate more tax revenue for us simply put when when it comes to light bulbs they're just looking at like how can we generate more economic flow a major shift in the economy will force people to adapt it will change houses it'll change standards and this will force people to buy things when i still remember like the first time i flew during covid and like all the signs said like make sure to to wash your
Starting point is 01:25:49 hands and they were all like sponsored by purell at the airport and i'm just like well that's creepy right like it's it's literally like an advertisement for the company but it's put through actual official airport policy right it's an actual form yeah that's put up by the airport but in the corner there you get the little purell paid for it yeah exactly so it right it's an actual form yeah that's put up by the airport but in the corner there you get the little purell paid for it yeah exactly so it's it's kind of like government and business working together many people even really use incandescent light bulbs more because i was just thinking about it just it's so typical of government where they get to this point to where the the essentially the private market is essentially adapted and then
Starting point is 01:26:20 they come in with a rule and like look look what we did and it's like you didn't really do it i just i don't i don't feel like i see incandescent light bulbs all that often they come in with a rule and be like, look what we did. And it's like, you didn't really do it. I don't feel like I see incandescent light bulbs all that often. Didn't they do that with R-22 a couple years ago because of the ozone layer a couple decades ago? They were able to phase out. Yeah, like HVAC people used it, so they phased it out. So there's like a black market for R-22 to use. I mean, they did that with stuff like child labor laws. Basically, people weren't really working their kids by the time they started instituting
Starting point is 01:26:46 those laws because we had progressed economically to a point where people don't want their kids to work, generally speaking. So, I mean, don't be wrong. I guess it's sort of good that they stopped some of those kids, but I mean, I don't know. It's just the government comes in and then later it's like, look what we did. And you're like, well, I mean, they kind of...
Starting point is 01:27:02 At the last minute, taking credit for it when they didn't really do any of the work. In 2007, Obama said that he was going to immediately send a law to phase out all incandescent light bulbs, and that was reversed under Trump. And so now the Biden administration was like, and we're back.
Starting point is 01:27:15 It's just payback. Like, that's... We're so back, baby. We're so back. Why this is not... Also, like, if LEDs are better, presumably the consumer is like i see the results and i want one like why do you have to ban them that seems bizarre to me they're like
Starting point is 01:27:32 trump and your jail cell will have nothing but led light bulbs no incandescent romantic lighting for you he's like high-fiving obama like we did it man incandescent light bulbs are gone like what if that's actually why they've been trying to stay in power for so long. This is like the one thing. I'm telling you, it's the light bulb conspiracy. It's the forces of Big Bulb. Oh my goodness. So, most...
Starting point is 01:27:55 What does it say? Someone super chatted. This is a good one. Kenneth Loren saying, are the bulbs made in China or the USA? So I just Googled it. And it says, light bulbs made in the USA, do they exist?
Starting point is 01:28:07 It seems like they don't. Since most consumers look to purchase a cheaper bulb, most light bulbs are manufactured in China, where it is more cost effective. So I think that's just referring to incandescent light bulbs. No, I think it's all of them. All light bulbs are made in China. I don't think it changes anything.
Starting point is 01:28:23 If there is any made in America light bulb brand, can someone please let me know on Twitter? Because I will only buy their light bulbs. Like that's bananas. Public Square. Oh my gosh, Public Square. I need a specific light bulb vendor. Yes, there is light bulbs made in the USA.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Patriot bulb. Light bulbs made in the USA. They do exist. Maga bulbs. The MagaWatt bulbs. Trump is like, we're going to be launching light bulbs made in the usa they do exist trump is like we're gonna be launching light bulbs uh him and the pillow guy can do that together yeah that'd be good yeah i don't i don't know that that's a really good question though because these moves could be made to shift production and and revenue generation and things like that to a place that really doesn't care about child labor i don't really care about light bulbs to be honest i'm just more so concerned that we are now at a place
Starting point is 01:29:08 where the the federal government has just been ruling by decree just mandating so on the surface it is but a simple story about light bulbs that no one cares about but when people ask how did it get so bad this is exactly it No one cares they banned light bulbs. No one's going to go protest over it. But they do things like this where they rule by decree. A year from now, people will be like, what do you mean? The government has always done this. Sets precedents too.
Starting point is 01:29:35 That's right. I mean, this is the moment where I want to say like everyone, I think you're right. It'd be nice to sue. I don't know that I personally have the cash reserves to fight the federal government that can litigate you to death. But it would be interesting if we had these, I don't know that i personally have the cash reserves to fight the federal government that can litigate you to death but it would be interesting if we had these i don't know representatives who we could call and be like hey how did this come to be and i don't like it please fight for my right to have an incandescent light bulb if i so choose and a guest i don't know where you'd find them maybe the house of representatives or the senate or something but hey gas stove slap though
Starting point is 01:30:02 so that's different they hate them right yeah they hate they hate the gas stoves yeah they're illegal in vermont apparently gas stoves are incandescent light bulbs incandescent light bulbs yeah that's because vermont's always fluorescent light bulbs oh man i feel like vermont is such a wild place but fluorescent bulbs are really cool because you can like rub your feet on the carpet and then like grab it and it lights up like a lightsaber you know and then the kids away fun and the kids go and shatter them in the in the alley and then like grab it and it lights up like a lightsaber you know and then taking away fun and the kids go and shatter them in the in the alley and the dust comes out and they all laugh then it goes in their lungs and they get really sick do you see what you're doing what you're keeping us from yeah yeah well uh i suppose the story is like a mix of climate change stuff and
Starting point is 01:30:40 government overreach or whatever but i figured we'd keep it light now we're gonna go to super chats so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because the members-only uncensored show will be at 10pm, and we will take
Starting point is 01:30:57 your questions live, and I'm going to be writing a song about insulin resistance, so come hang out. Alright. I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, about insulin resistance. So come hang out. All right. I'm not your buddy, guys, says Jack Smith is a political hitman. He should be disbarred and sent to prison for life. Let's let the president.
Starting point is 01:31:20 This abuse of power can cost your cost you your life behind bars can cost your life behind bars can send you to prison. Weird Nugs says Bud Light. Anyone? LOL. Who, Bud Light anyone? LOL. Who drinks Bud Light? I've not actually seen someone drink Bud Light in a minute, but we're in MAGA country, so I'm not surprised.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Is it still low? Are the sales still down? I saw a thing, I read an article today that said like, some bars are like having to set it up as like, it's a mystery lager, just to get rid of it. Like they have to put it on tap,
Starting point is 01:31:42 and it's like, it's a mystery gear, we can't tell you what it is. I went to a place where it was like they had them all in a cooler and then they had like blacked out this one shell being like mystery it's funny my wife just discovered the bud light controversy yesterday and explained to her and she was like yeah that is dumb like yeah so your wife is not into politics no not at all that's amazing great she just found it yeah she's found it oh my god she's my hero she's gonna get to target next she's gonna be like did you know i went to a walmart and they were like setting up displays more like target
Starting point is 01:32:10 they're coming for target it's so interesting all right let's grab some more what we got raymond g stanley jr says i let anger and emotions inside today guys i don't like it this damn cycle of corrupt government lying media both their disdain for the lives of american people war needless death rinse and repeat i completely agree and light bulbs and light bulbs they're taking our light bulbs from us it just never ends they took our bulbs start that's a dick move taking our light bulbs i gotta be completely honest i also hate those led light bulbs and uh oncoming traffic it's getting a little ridiculous. It's absurdly bright. Even in here, I'm not a huge fan of the bright light in here.
Starting point is 01:32:49 That's why I don't wear my glasses in here. It actually is really hard on my eyes. I can't even get an incandescent bulb to save my life now. Well, they're all LED, even the special lights that we have. They didn't even bother me until I started noticing them. All right. Thanks, man. Aaron's Mickey says,
Starting point is 01:33:03 Tim, went to see Sound of freedom today and they said the film was locked in the projector they refunded me my tickets the conspiracy is true yeah i've been hearing i've had so many stories of it like people have been coming just because we covered so much of it like people with crazy stories beyond just like uh not just fire alarms being pulled not just the air conditioning not working and it's all over the country it's not just like because i was i was very hesitant to buy that at first because it's very easy to make that claim and plus it's summer air conditioning goes out yeah and you don't have any comparison to like in a regular and you don't hear the stories like did this happen to other
Starting point is 01:33:39 movies in because they're all on their own ac systems right so it's like did this happen to that's fine but did this happen to the theater next to you? But it's not, it's crazy. I mean, it's anecdotal, but I can only recall ever in my life, probably one time there was some sort of technical issue with a film to where I wasn't able to watch it or something along those lines.
Starting point is 01:33:54 I was at Ford City Mall when I was a little kid in South Side of Chicago and the power went out and then everyone just started ransacking everything. I think my family went to go see Babe and then the power shuts, like the power goes out and then we're like walking out of the theater and everyone's just running around
Starting point is 01:34:07 stealing everything in sight. And then we just left. They're like, get the Dippin' Dots. Yeah, the Dippin' Dots have been the ice cream of the future for like 40 some odd years. And no one's competed with them. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:34:21 We did actually have, like when we went to see The Flash, because we had to go, we went to a, we could only get a closed caption screening and the closed captions wouldn't work so they had to like come in and like we're gonna refund you your ticket they tried they restarted the movie like four times like they get five minutes in they're like okay the the subtitles aren't working so they have to start it over again then finally like we're gonna refund all your tickets and then they let it play they're like but if you want to
Starting point is 01:34:43 stay it can play and then immediately after they said that they turned back on like that they immediately turned on wouldn't be funny if like a mafia emerges to sell incandescent light bulbs i could see what i'm looking for it's a black market will emerge yeah wild wild west out there incandescent light bulb prohibition won't work i'm down i just don't like that they'll limit us to one option right i feel like that's not good i don't want single payer health care and i don't like that they'll limit us to one option, right? I feel like that's not good. I don't want single-payer healthcare, and I don't want single light bulb choices. I think we have a bunch of, we used to have a bunch of light bulbs that were Wi-Fi. You could control them with your app or whatever. They didn't work, though, because this place is too big.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And so we installed, like, 40 because of how big it is, and then it's just like nothing worked. And we're like, okay, we gotta use regular light bulbs. Brett, do you think they'll let us keep our light bulbs? That was a stupid healthcare joke. If you like your bulbs, you can keep your bulbs. If you do. Let's grab some more. Skyler Pearson says, you should try to get James Turan.
Starting point is 01:35:36 He's a professor of chemistry, material science, and nanoengineering. And an outspoken Christian. Bonus, he knows about graphene. I think anyone would love him. Have you guys heard about that thing? It's likek99 or whatever yes room temperature superconductor it's not really room temperature it's just like closer to room temperature closer it's like more feasible but until like it's been proven by other places you know it's not worth really covering people are saying that if it's true that they've they've generated this this you know near room
Starting point is 01:36:03 temperature superconductor we're gonna going to have flying cars and stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's possible. And I'm just like, bro, they told me graphene 20 years ago was going to change everything. Ian's got the same little tube of graphene I bought him like two, three years ago for Christmas. And it's been
Starting point is 01:36:20 like nothing's... Okay, actually, to be fair, they now put graphene in batteries and they charge super fast. So 10 years ago, I'd buy these lithium ion batteries. Everyone's got one for your phone, right? And it would take like an hour or two to charge up and then it could charge your phone a couple times. Now they have graphene, I think graphene polymer batteries they're called.
Starting point is 01:36:42 What they do is they take the lithium ion like normal and then they lattice graphene polymer batteries they're called. What they do is they take the lithium ion like normal and then they lattice graphene over it, which allows the energy to flow through it more evenly and it charges way faster. So we've got a couple of these portable batteries. It can charge, it holds two cell phone charges, so about 4,000 milliamps. It can charge in 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:37:00 Crazy. That's wild. Absolutely crazy. So, okay, fine, fair point. I've also heard about solid state batteries coming out yeah yeah i'm waiting i'm waiting i want a flying car with extremely dense battery i will say i got this smart watch because luke recommended it the battery lasts for a month wow that's crazy i don't understand how it does it yeah yeah it's a long time so how long till
Starting point is 01:37:22 flying cars then man they built flying cars a long time ago the problem is that when like your car breaks down on the road you just get out and complain and when your car breaks down in the sky you're dead yeah we skip jetpacks completely well but but we have jetpacks now you have that you have those suits where they have the things on their arms and they can fly but we've had jetpacks the problem is the energy source was always difficult it's a lot of gas so the the early jet packs i think this was like decades ago could only go for like 30 seconds now they have jet packs that can go for about a half an hour the problem is still when they fail you die yeah that and those they wear those suits you have to be super fit to hold your arms because you're you're basically doing like like lift yourself
Starting point is 01:38:07 with your arms and hold that position for 30 minutes gymnast stuff yeah yeah but it is really cool because they're using them to like do mountain rescue they like fly up to the mountain stuff that's pretty cool you know and they also have those uh they're like miniature plane suits almost like it looks like a plane standing upright but it's very small you strap into it oh yeah and then it you can you're flying like like wingsuit powered wingsuit yeah and they're like really big those are cool things too Wyatt Caldenberg says VP Pence took notes off Trump notes of Trump Pence is a system rat I would not be surprised if Pence is the star witness for the state I wouldn't either but i don't know why he's running for president what a waste of time
Starting point is 01:38:48 yeah i don't understand how you can run for president when the reason people know you is because of trump like yeah what was your game plan here team yeah to waste everyone's time i guess what do we got here kevin cosnahan says ironically having the trials is probably better for trump than actually campaigning. He seems to gain in the polls with each indictment. And that's actually a really good point. These criminal trials are going to put Trump on every television screen, every story, everything
Starting point is 01:39:17 will just be Trump. Maybe they're hoping people get sick of it. We saw that played out last, you know, in 2016. Maybe, maybe they're trying to do that so that people saw that played out last you know in 2016 maybe maybe they're they're they're trying to do that so that people will be like no i'm not going to vote for the guy is there uh are they letting cameras in the courtroom so then we do we know that yet we don't know i mean it's too far out i think doing this so it like puts on display the disingenuous i don't even know how to say that disingenuousness that's occurring so anyone who has an ounce of honesty will be like like if
Starting point is 01:39:45 anything it's going to be off-putting like yeah maybe it might not help vote wise but so far as like the actual energy within the country the people are gonna be like yeah we know what you're about and i think that's gonna cause it's gonna shift some things in the future yeah i think as well like we were talking about how there's no covet anymore there's not as much of like this rallying cry against trump anymore that everyone has to do we haven't just had but who knows this summer could change everything but maybe a lot of i'm just saying a lot of people that are on the left everybody for biden are going to be less like you know gung-ho about getting out and voting so spencer jones says let's get a giga chad ian t-shirt
Starting point is 01:40:17 yeah well okay it's got to be no sleeves yeah no no Then everyone sent us a video tearing off their own sleeves. Or perforated sleeves. So you buy it and you can rip your sleeves off. Noah Schramm says, Trump is made of rubber. You throw something at him and it bounces off and hits you back. But I think the issue is just that the establishment doesn't understand why people vote for Trump. They don't get it and so they're like look he's a naughty man and he abused women and they're like uh-huh we hate you they believe their own narrative about him so it's hard for them to see him clearly or objectively steven says says i was a classified material control center clerk
Starting point is 01:41:00 on okinawa with the marines i had top secret documents on national security in my control i can't tell you about them but i didn't face any charges well you're not donald trump and they're not trying to remove you from office so or from the from the race i thought that was going to be an alien's comment what if the real conspiracy is that trump actually is part of the deep state and they're setting him up to be this anti-establishment hero and that no one thinks he can win and everyone keeps saying he can't but then he will win and everyone him up to be this anti-establishment hero and that no one thinks he can win. And everyone keeps saying he can't, but then he will win and everyone's going to be like, yay. But then it turns out he does everything the deep state actually wanted.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Like what if, what if China is pushing all the woke stuff and the deep state is actually desperately trying to fight it because it's destroying America and will result in us losing this global conflict. So they know the only way to actually win is to prop up trump as some like underdog anti-establishment guy but he's actually deeply in and all on with all of it and the point of the criminal trials is to make sure everyone here is nothing but trump stuff so that he wins 40 chess yeah so so so what you're saying is that when he uh when he unbanned those incandescent bulbs it was actually a move all that time ago because they knew they were going to re-ban them now. How much do you want to bet
Starting point is 01:42:07 Donald Trump at his rally says he's going to unban incandescent light bulbs? And they're all going to go, yeah! Well, he said it the first time. He already unbanned them once. He did? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Obama said, we're going to roll out banning them. Trump was like, no. Biden was like, yes. And now Trump's going to be like, you see, you was the one. Obama said, we're going to roll out banning them. Trump was like, no. Biden was like, yes. And now Trump's going to be like, you see, you guys need me. They've taken our bones. It was a state move. Under me, there were incandescent bulbs for everybody.
Starting point is 01:42:34 LAT is too bright. Makes me look fat. Oh, man. Random Eskimo says, I didn't vote in 2016. I was so disgusted we had no one decent to vote for. I saw how well Trump governed and I appreciate his policy while loathing his style i still personally dislike him but he's earned my vote you see so many people feel that way yeah i'm just like the foreign policy you know like you even got some libertarians being like yeah i know no new wars what are you
Starting point is 01:42:59 gonna do if you can't accept small victories that's what i don't like about the libertarians the hardcore ones they're like trump is and he did all these bad things. And I'm like, I know, but it's like it's actually moved in a positive direction. You can call him the lesser of two evils, I guess, but not starting any wars and working on peace deals is good. So you complain about everything else, but like, take what you can get. I do think it's good to bring up both, though, that like simultaneously have these two concepts in your head at the same time. That way remind people, Hey,
Starting point is 01:43:27 there's still work to be done. Uh, like, you know, just staying in the same position we are while even somewhat expanding forces in some areas, not really that, but it's better than it was before.
Starting point is 01:43:36 You know, like we, we, we didn't increase our militarism as exponentially as we were before. So, I mean, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Yeah. It's small wins, I guess in some ways, but still, you know, still you know there's work to be done joseph says vivek is calling out the investment market that enough duh follow the money i like viva veik viva veik sounds dope yeah i don't know the nerdy beekeeper says calling vivek the right-wing Obama insults Vivek. That's a corollary. It makes sense, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Well, yeah, like Obama's evil and Vivek is good. So there you go. N.E. Knight says, Vivek has Jordan Peterson keeping him honest. It was a deal they made on Peterson's podcast months ago. It is really awesome to see this meteoric rise of Vivek. We had him on when we were in, where were we? Arizona. Arizona, that's right. He came on the show.
Starting point is 01:44:28 That was really cool. He had those books. Really excited to see. I think it would be great if he was VP. That'd be really, really awesome. And considering the serious defense he's had for Donald Trump over all of this BS, I think it's a strong possibility. Because he's showing himself to be
Starting point is 01:44:45 worthy of running, proving himself as a capable order speaker. You know, he's got good policies. He's honest. He's got integrity. And he's also defending Trump where Trump rightly should be defended, something Ron DeSantis should have done. And given like Trump's policies and the way that his base sees him, he would be a much more realistic successor if Trump was to win. Like if the idea was that Pence was supposed to to be the one to to succeed him after Trump won a second term, I don't think anyone was buying that. People would buy Vivek winning after after Trump. Vivek said he will not run for vice president, that he's running for president. He said that. I loved it because he was running for president. Yeah, he said that. I loved it because he was like, some people are just not wired that way.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Can you imagine a vice president Trump? It's like very hard, very difficult. KB says, Tim, pipe dream. But what you guys think about the scenario where Trump ekes out a popular vote win and the electoral compact states auto trip to red. Everyone on our side must vote this time since the d's made it matter now but the electoral uh compact is not in play it has not been activated still we definitely want every single person to vote yeah so shift those numbers man alistair buson says youtube won't let me say what i want to super chat, even though it's verifiably within their rules, so here's 20 bucks for doing an excellent job. Well, thank you
Starting point is 01:46:08 very much. Kyle says, 561 is the Palm Beach area code. Is that what Trump was secretly doing? Gary says, it's Vivek like cake. Why is it so hard? LOL. Dude, and we've had people on the show who will say Vivek 20 times
Starting point is 01:46:24 and will say, it's Vivek, and they'll go, oh, okay. But Vivek is really great. It just feels the show who will say vivek 20 times and we'll say it's vivek and they'll go oh okay but vivek is really great and we're just like it just feels right i don't know i'd say vivek but i've heard vivek a million times as well it's also really hard to like do a show where someone says vivek and then we stop the conversation and go it's pronounced vivek yeah i really feel like he probably doesn't even really care he doesn't he just introduces himself he's like it's vivek like cake oh okay and he's like but people call me whatever yeah you know if people call me tom i'd just be like okay whatever i guess whatever makes you happy i suppose whatever makes you happy vegas woman says does your state owe you money do an unclaimed funds search for your state
Starting point is 01:46:59 search your name and check if money is owed to you you're welcome i did this before have you guys ever done this no No, I got like, I got like 80 bucks or something. Yeah. Something happened with, uh, what happened was a bank closed and I had like 20 bucks in the account. So the money didn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:47:15 And then somehow it ended up with the state. The state had my name on it and said, you can claim it. You got to put in your information. And then they mailed me the check. And I was like, what? But it was like,
Starting point is 01:47:23 it was like two or three different checks. There was one where it was like an unclaimed tax refund or something that I never knew about. Yeah. Someone told me to go look for it. And then I was like, wow, I won't be surprised if I go there right now,
Starting point is 01:47:34 actually. And I find that I got a bunch of money. Yeah. It'd be worth it. Tea party. Geezer says Vivek Ramaswamy is co-founder of strive asset management. What do you, what did you say to search for?
Starting point is 01:47:46 Unclaimed funds? Yeah, unclaimed funds. Is everyone doing it right now? Search for your state. Unclaimed funds. I got too many states to search. USA.gov, money and credit, how to find unclaimed money. Seems like a great way to get your identity stolen.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Yeah, why do they want my current information? What do they want? Why do they want to know my- Social social security number please questionable you can also it's so i looked at maryland it's like buy unclaimed property it's like oh okay i've heard stories i think i ran a story a long time ago about a homeless man who basically created a business doing this for people like looking up where their money was from and then people would be like well okay like you're giving me a hundred dollars i'll give you five just for doing that and this this is like one of the ways his side hustle i can't remember where this story goes has the fact that he did this i don't know what happened to him it's the end of my anecdote
Starting point is 01:48:38 justin g says i can't wait for the aliens aren't real conspiracy theories to start once the government says they're real yeah yeah now we're at the point where like joe rogan is gonna be on his show and he's gonna be like yeah dude i just don't think that aliens are real because the government's always lying and then daily beast is gonna be like conspiracy brain joe rogan thinks the alien hearing was fake sometimes i feel like they want to reclaim the word alien so people stop saying illegal alien when they talk about immigrants. He doesn't believe in the Roswell Commission report. That Bob Lazar was full of it the whole time.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Taking Taking Back Toxic says aliens would want nothing to do with humans. Humans would do the naughty with their kids and steal their stuff. Oof. There was some great memes. It was like the X-Files poster. I want to believe it was like, I wanted to believe aliens are real until the government said they were. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:36 You have to wonder like, the aliens are so great. Why haven't they shown up by now? They don't need the US government's permission. And why is it always the US? This is never happening in other countries. It's always here. It happened in Brazil a long time ago. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Jadrick Penifer says, Regarding Nibiru, it originates from Zechariah Sitchin. He found the reference in ancient Sumerian tablets, but only he could translate them, and he wouldn't let anyone else corroborate his translations. He was the poster child. Source, trust me, bro. I'm pretty sure you're talking about...
Starting point is 01:50:06 Joseph Smith. Yeah, Joseph Smith. Sounds like a Joseph Smith name. Read it on a golden plate.. Trust me, bro. I'm pretty sure you're talking about Joseph Smith. Yeah, Joseph Smith. Sounds like a Joseph Smith name. Reddit on a golden plate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that may actually be true. I don't know. I've heard that name, Zachariah Sitchin, before. Yeah, I think it was the guy who translated some of the scenario stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Dude, you know, the early 2000s internet was like the best thing ever. Yeah. You'd just find the craziest websites full of just garbled insane nonsense it was just awesome all those forum posts i found some old website about denver airport back in the day and it's like this really it's like comic sans and just like it's got a hulk hogan gif dancing papyrus text yeah yeah all that stuff good old days i like that the denver airport has started at least on Instagram, acknowledging the Denver Airport conspiracies
Starting point is 01:50:46 because they just get so many comments about it. What do they call the horse? Do you guys know the name? Belucifer. Belucifer. Yeah. Do they turn that into merch?
Starting point is 01:50:58 They could turn that into so much merch. They really should. And the horse killed the guy who made it, right? Yeah, the artist that made it and then they had finished without him like questionable i think the denver airport at least on instagram they
Starting point is 01:51:09 have some really funny stuff about being like wow thank you guys for stopping by but they they could lean into it i think then they would feel like i feel like then they'd be like please stop like we don't want to admit that there's anything here my favorite was that i guess there are a lot of chipotles in denver and someone was like oh well that's because you think it's because it was founded here but actually it's because they all ultimately have uh underground tunnels where they store extra rice and beans so when the elites have to move into the denver airport they'll have access to food i think that wouldn't make sense as to why they sell the food to people they just sell it as a front to continue to order tons of supplies to put on layaway i just i you know it'd be a fun show a show where all of these conspiracy theories are real so like nibiru is real and there are aliens that are coming to earth
Starting point is 01:51:55 because they want gold but the earth is flat it's also hollow so like there are deep underground tunnels that go into a hollow earth and earth is just this disc-like shell you know just all of them at once i think that'd be great and the the way you get into the center of the earth is through the north pole there's a hole there apparently where santa hangs out and guards it yeah i think this is a good idea i actually like hollow earth just it's a fun conspiracy just because it's like low earth yeah i don't believe it but it's just as a freaking conspiracy for me it's like but it's not Yeah, I don't believe it, but it's just as a frigging conspiracy. For me, it's like... But it's not a conspiracy, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:52:26 Yeah, I guess technically it's just... What do you call it? Yeah, I don't know what you'd call it. I mean, I guess technically people would have to conspire to keep that secret, so I guess you kind of, by technicality...
Starting point is 01:52:33 A fringe theory? A fringe theory, yeah. That's a different... A conspiracy theory, that would be the government keeping a secret about Hollow Earth when the idea that the Earth could be hollow,
Starting point is 01:52:41 maybe no one even knows. I mean, there's a lot to the Operation High Jump story, too, if people want to dig into it, but... Was that during... Was that in the 1800s or something no i think it was uh what like world war ii roughly high jump like the nazi one where they live they have a place on the moon no it's on the south pole south pole there are was a legit operation that occurred there but it's like people spiral out different theories from what happened because they came back. Because they had that place on an alert in Canada. Oh yeah, 1946.
Starting point is 01:53:08 It's wild. It's a crazy story. To establish the Antarctic Research Base, Little America 4. Yeah. A lot of people go into Hollow Earth with that one. Like, oh, he found Hollow Earth. He found the entrance. I see.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Would you go in to hollow earth i would go in no yeah that's where the nephilim are and they don't like humans so how do you know yeah what if they're not aliens what if the ufos are like you know we build these submarines and go down to the water what if there's just like hollow earth denizens that create ships to come up and like explore the surface and could you imagine how shocking it would be if you lived inside this big sphere this big dome with like some kind of energy source the middle or whatever and then you're like how could anything possibly survive outside of this it's like there's nothing there and then they finally go on an expedition and they say people and they're like they go back
Starting point is 01:53:57 in and they tell everybody there are people on the outside of this and they're like that's impossible they fall off there's no way you crazy conspiracy theorists conspiracies captain von eric says anything trump might have done versus state governors giving the okay to non-american policing americans which is worse yeah certainly certainly leon yodas's republicans are honorable people and they want to play by the rules. But as Carpe Donctum X'd today, you cannot compromise your way into a winning position against an opponent who doesn't value compromise or fair play ever. That is correct. I hate this verb X.
Starting point is 01:54:36 I just want that on record. Tweet is better. Why don't you X about it? I will not. It says like repost now rather than retweet. I love that. I hate it. I will not. It says like repost now rather than retweet. I love that. I hate it. Why aren't we ruining something?
Starting point is 01:54:48 They still won't change the Twitter movies account. What? Yeah. Because it can't be X movies. Yeah. It's not a. So, and also Twitter spaces are X spaces now. Not to be confused with.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Space spaces. This doesn't, like, Elon, what are we doing? It's masterful. It's brilliant. He just recycles the logo and just turns the logo around i do like this thing where he's like you're all gonna comply like he could have been like oh it's twitter x and then like slowly rolled it out but instead he was like it's x and you all have to deal with it i like it this way i had to have a conversation my wife that like hey you're about to see a bill that says X. I want you to be clear what this is. Please do not be concerned. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:55:32 I hope that lots of husbands have had that conversation. It took a while to dawn on me. I was like, oh. All right. James Richards says Congress has the power to coin money. The Federal Reserve is a private company. Not only is that fraud against but against the constitution if it's not congress coining money then congress has no liability oh well sam uri says is this the same lizzo that played madison's flute correct
Starting point is 01:55:57 the one and only lizzo yeah we are we are not pleased all right what do we got agreeing clover says yesterday's show was the first i missed in a while live and you talked about drones to have been doing for 10 years yeah we talked about uh the drone in drone stuff in moscow yeah crazy stuff man and it's only going to get crazier because they're cheaper and cheaper to produce and uh very scary yeah sine says there was a huge monopoly on the light bulb industry the owners of these companies all came together and agreed to make light bulbs that didn't last long look into it it's crazy messed up i've heard the story apparently the first light bulb ever made has been on forever and it's in a firehouse in new
Starting point is 01:56:38 york city and then they were just like yeah but if we sell these everyone will just have them so what do we do and then i was reading like, the woke people came out and said, did you know the light bulb was actually invented by a black man? And it's because the filament used in the light bulb was made by a black scientist who never received credit. And then I was like, wait, are you talking about the, the planned obsolescence? Like the light bulbs that were intended to fail, he invented. Cause now I'm kind of pissed.
Starting point is 01:57:02 I feel like you don't want to take credit for that one. I feel like that's not as cool as you think it is. It's like the guy who invented the super soaker finally got credit like 20 years later. Did he really?
Starting point is 01:57:11 Yeah. That doesn't have planned obsolescence, does it? I don't know. It's a fun fact. Brian Burchard says GE closed its last incandescent bulb operation
Starting point is 01:57:20 a few years ago. It was in Winchester, Virginia. Oh, really? Right up the road from Tim and cost a number of local jobs. Yeah, we hang out in Winchester virginia oh really right up the road from tim and cost a number of local jobs yeah we hang out in winchester all the time that's super close like i don't know it's like 45 minutes or something at the most yeah they have a good mexican restaurant yeah and i love their old downtown yeah they have like a retro gaming place i bought a bunch of video games from like nintendo that's good good spot and i love the library the hanley library is gorgeous mojave says unequivocally bears built stonehenge seriously maybe with the alcubier warp drive
Starting point is 01:57:51 utilizing vacuum flux faster than light travel could be possible uh stonehenge was collapsed and then they like people rebuilt it yeah they were like let's make this a thing i like we think this is what it's like conspiracies or french theories that bring in bears i feel like we should give bears more to do they should have a bigger starring role in all of our narratives i feel like that's fun it would be fun it would you heard it here first it would be it would be no that was a bit from norm mcdonald he was like twas you're you're you're shortening it was it's not even that hard to say twas that's a good one twas the night before christmas what do we have rb play says what do you believe will happen if they actually put trump in prison i believe it might be chaos on a level
Starting point is 01:58:36 we've never seen before i don't think trump supporters go out and start smashing and riding no i think that putting trump in pit in prison destabilizes the market in such a way that it causes crisis in people's 401ks and pension inflation would be out of control and they'd have to desperately try to clamp it down but the uncertainty of of putting trump in prison on the elections would make investors panic and leave and go invest in something else with bricks now making their big announcement about expansion and their gold-backed currency it's the stupidest thing imaginable you could do and then when that happens people will riot over not having food sorry also am i missing something if if they put trump in prison would they also have to station him with a bunch of secret service agents like how would they do that how could they actually i don't know facilitate having him in
Starting point is 01:59:22 that's where is it that's why it seems like, for whatever reason, the only space that fits for the puzzle piece is Trump wins the president, wins 2024. Because I don't know how the system survives. Can you imagine being the secret service agent that has to go to prison with Trump? They just rotate out to new guy every night. I mean, it's like going to work.
Starting point is 01:59:42 Yeah, but then you have to go in and out of the prison system. Instead of being like, oh, we're traveling the world. We're doing whatever. It's like the worst. When I went to become a Secret Service agent, I never thought I'd have to eat prison food. I thought I'd be just hanging out in Delaware with Joe Biden. He would go to a minimum security prison
Starting point is 01:59:59 where he'd wear a polo and khakis and golf all day. I feel like he wouldn't go to prison. I feel like that's not going to happen. No, right. It's not going to happen. No, right. It's not going to happen. He'd be on house arrest from Mar-a-Lago with the internet for the rest of his life. It would destabilize the U.S. economy
Starting point is 02:00:10 in a way they could not predict. I also think it would make a lot of people that are kind of on the fence about it that don't necessarily believe Trump is this evil person and if we don't vote for him, we're going to be like, this is insane. It's like jumping the shark. Too much.
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