Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #835 Andy Ngo LOSES In Court, Antifa Lawyer THREATENS Jurors w/Tom Fitton

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, Clint Russell, & Serge join Tom Fitton to discuss the Antifa members that attacked Andy Ngo being found not guilty, the officer who held back the crowd during George Floyd's arrest bei...ng sentenced to 8 years, US banks' credit ratings dropping, & the DC grand jury that indicted Trump convening again in preparation to go after Trump's lawyers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, we do have some pretty big news stories today, but before we get started, I have a very horrible and sad announcement to make, and it breaks my heart to say this. Earlier today, Roberto Jr. suffered a heart attack, and he died instantly. And we're all very sad. Roberto Jr., for those that are familiar, is the rooster that we bred and raised. He was only just over two years old, and we were kind of shocked by it. We knew that he may have been a little sick. We weren't entirely sure if anything was completely wrong with him,
Starting point is 00:00:31 but he had been acting a little bit more docile lately, and he was having his feet cleaned, and he just had a heart attack and died. We attempted to perform, I kid you not, chicken CPR. We have oxygen. We tried giving him oxygen. Nothing worked. There seemed to be nothing we can do. And we're all very heartbroken to have to
Starting point is 00:00:52 tell you, everybody, because as you know, we had a 95-foot-tall billboard of Roberto Jr. in Times Square. He is the mascot for our coffee brand. He is on our Rise with Roberto Jr. breakfast blend. He is the mascot for the entire coffee brand and he is on our website as one of our cast members and we we treated him
Starting point is 00:01:13 like the the main guy for chicken city he was the main guy and we we just it just happened in an instant uh i'm not the foremost expert on chickens but but, you know, we tried everything we could and there's not much you can do. Roberto Jr.'s mom died of cancer. And we knew that when he was when he was born, he may have had some developmental issues, but he seemed like a good dude. And he ended up having a bunch of kids himself. So he will be he will be his name will be carried on by Roberto III, who has yet to been given the title. But in all seriousness it is sad we we liked roberto jr he was the the king of the flock and it's a sad report
Starting point is 00:01:51 so you can support uh you can support us by going to casper.com you can buy rise with roberto jr he will be immortalized in this blend that we will keep the king is returning his father roberto will be brought back to take care of his family in the meantime and uh sorry to everybody who's a fan of we even have emojis for roberto jr so uh that's the unfortunate uh news as for the actual news and moving on to the show again rest in peace roberto jr you were too young andy no he lost his trial against several alleged Antifa members, I say alleged because of the trial. The defense attorney proclaimed that they were Antifa, told the jurors that they would remember their faces, even though the jurors expressed fear that they would be targeted and doxxed by Antifa. I'm not surprised that the results, Andy Ngo was mercilessly and brutally attacked on more than one occasion. But this is Portland we're talking about. Who in a jury would dare stand up to a known terror organization that goes around beating people,
Starting point is 00:02:52 especially when you're at a trial where the man they've beaten is saying, please help me, and they're looking at you saying, we won't forget what you've done. That's apparently what happens in this country. These people, I mean, are they going to be criminally charged? What's going to happen? However, even though Andy Ngo lost, several of the defendants have been found in default. So there still may be a net benefit there for Andy Ngo. He may win in some respect.
Starting point is 00:03:13 We got a bunch of other news, too. They're convening another grand jury, or I should say the same grand jury is convening in D.C., presumably to go after Giuliani or even bring more charges against Trump. And this one's massive, ladies and gentlemen. Anheuser-Busch has been forced to sell off several of its craft brands that and they ain't doing too well. Before we get started, my friends head over to cast brew dot com to buy our coffee. You can see here the immortal image of Roberto Junior will never be forgotten. He is the main personality behind our rise with Roberto Juniorto jr on the back of
Starting point is 00:03:47 each bag is a picture of roberto jr rooster rest in peace if you would like to uh support us in this uh grieving time you can buy rise with the rise with the bro junior whole bean or ground we have a bunch of other flavors when you buy casper coffee you're supporting the show we really do uh thank you all so much for your support and for buying the coffee sales have been pretty good and we are going to hopefully launching our physical location sometime in October. Who knows? We're like a year delayed on everything. That's how it goes. But don't forget to head over to TimCast.com. Click join us. Become a member to support us directly. When you click join us, you can see there's Roberto Jr. We'll never forget you, buddy. We're going to immortalize you and
Starting point is 00:04:22 we'll build a little statue for you or something. Sad days, man. Bucko is actually doing pretty well. It's just so brutal, man. Become a member and you can get access to our members-only uncensored show, which will be up at 10 p.m. live tonight on the front page of TimCast.com. Not so family-friendly. Don't forget to smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tom Fitton. Good to be with you. Thanks for having me. Who are you, sir? Glad to be back here. President of Judicial Watch, America's largest and number one most effective government watchdog group. We've been around to celebrate our 29th year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So I've been there 25 years. And for this, they made you testify in front of a grand jury. That's the thanks I get from the Justice Department. Yeah, so definitely we'll talk about that with the grand jury convening once again in D.C. It'll be interesting. So thanks for hanging out. We got Clint. He's back.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I'm back. Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown, co-host of Tower Gang, Mises Caucus, LP National member, and just thrilled to share the stage with the great Tom Fitton tonight. Oh, that's nice. Thanks. Phil is here, of course. How you doing? I'm Phil Abante, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Starting point is 00:05:31 My buddy. Hey, buddy. Good to see you too, Phil. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland. Happy to be back. Give me some Fs in chat for the chicken. I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I actually stood with him after he had died. Do you think, was it still him after they die? Is it still him or is he gone now? And it's just he was such a chill dude. We raised him. So he was super chill around people. He was never scared. Yeah, you could walk into the coop.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You just look up at you and walk around because we used to hold him in our hands. He was he was born in front of us. And then we actually raised him indoors. And then he became the king of the coop, displacing his dad, Roberto. And this was just completely shocking. When Kim was going to wash his feet, because he's covered in muck, and she's carrying him, he was totally fine. And then after she was done washing his feet,
Starting point is 00:06:16 he just all of a sudden goes, and then died just like that. That was rough. He wasn't like, yeah, just completely shocking. We've had to clean a bunch of the chickens when they get mucky and really really filthy and they've got stuck stuff stuck to their butts and stuff like that you gave them a great life kim thank you and thank you for doing everything for those chickens that you're doing and all the animals around here it was beautiful watching them try to resuscitate i was like this is love right here we have oxygen canisters for like sports oxygen and kim you know put it in his mouth and tried giving him cpr and
Starting point is 00:06:46 we looked online everything we just did nothing we could do well mad love roberto jr i'll see you again someday hey let's get this story started are you gonna have a burial or something i think we'll figure something out you know his dad's coming back so fortunately roberto's still around he's got a bunch of brothers but you know roberto jr was the heir to the throne roberto's still around he's got a bunch of brothers but you know roberto jr was the heir to the throne roberto's gonna come back and be like you had one job son well he's got grandkids and roberto jr has a couple sons after roberto jr had passed away we had him outside everyone was standing around like well i guess he's gone and then all the chickens i don't know if it's all of them but a bunch of them came out of the coop and all lined up along the fence and started squawking yeah and the roosters were screaming for like an hour it actually happened yeah i was totally serious i was there i wouldn't believe it if
Starting point is 00:07:28 i hadn't been there i saw it happen they they they like lined up so there's like there's the chicken coop and then if you open the door there's just thin fencing so the chickens can go out in the grass and they were doing their thing and then at some point i think one of the one of the chickens realized i don't know i don't know what chickens think. But they were just doing their thing while we were trying to resuscitate Roberto Jr. And then all of a sudden, the chickens started lining up, looking towards where Roberto Jr. was laying by the patio. And then they started all squawking. And the roosters were crowing for like a couple hours after that, or at least an hour and a half.
Starting point is 00:08:02 All of them, I think. I don't know how many are out there, but it was a bunch of different ones were all doing their crows. They were yelling the king's died. Do they react if another bird is injured? Typically they kill them and eat them. Oh, so maybe they were hungry. Yeah, like finally that son of a bitch is gone.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Tastes like chicken. Junior was rough on the ladies, but he was known for his greatness. Chickens are not known for their intelligence. Roberto Junior, he had a bent toe when he was born, which is a sign of malnutrition, malnourishment. Well, his mom, I think he was one of the first eggs she laid, maybe. So I'm not entirely sure. But he also had an issue.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He had a respiratory issue. We knew about when he would crow. When he first started luring the crow, he would pass out. And so we were worried he had some circulatory problems interesting so you know we did we could but anyway we had search hanging out yeah rest in peace my chicken friend i apologize for uh i guess not being more of a friend to you i didn't know him very well but yeah happy he's uh he's in a better place let's. Yeah. His name will be carried on by his children. You have an opportunity to get to know the other 50 that are out there.
Starting point is 00:09:08 The unnamed. The unwashed masses. Well, there's going to be a Roberto III. Someone's going to be named his heir. Dude, I got to say, Luke is the man. He looks like a dog. Like a fluffy. Like one of those Pomeranians.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Little Luke is a rooster. Yeah. And he's named Little Luke because he's a Polish rooster. And the Polish roosters have blonde, parted feather hair and big noses. And so Luke was like, hey, he looks like me. He's got a blonde hair and a big nose. And we're like, we're going to call him Luke. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And he's Polish. All right, let's jump to this first story. We got this from the Post Millennial. Breaking Portland jury finds Antifa militants not liable in Andy Ngo attack. Defense attorney declares, I am Antifa. The defendant's attorney told the jurors their faces will be remembered.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I want to show you this tweet. So this is the postman. It says, Andy Ngo was harassed this morning on his way into court by alleged members of Antifa. The jury told the judge that they are concerned
Starting point is 00:09:58 about being doxed and said that people are trying to find out who they are. This is the current state of American politics in these cities. You have a defense attorney who tells the jurors, I will, here you go, Burroughs told
Starting point is 00:10:10 the jurors that she will remember each one of their faces. Burroughs does not take the time to provide evidence as to why the two defendants should be free from charges, but rather use the time to defend anti-fascism and attack Noe's credibility as a journalist. So the trial, for those that are not familiar, is these alleged Antifa members who had assisted in the brutal attack outside of a hotel, had provided support to other individuals who are accused of violently attacking him, and one of the individuals admitted to actually physically attacking Andy Noh on one occasion. The jury reached a verdict in the case of Andy Nogo versus Rose City Antifa, in which they found both
Starting point is 00:10:49 defendants, John Colin Hacker and Elizabeth Renee Richter, not liable in the civil case brought against them. Now, I will say, I don't know the full details of, you know, how everything was laid out, but I will call out absolutely when you have a defense attorney telling the jurors who are terrified of Antifa that they're going to remember their faces. Is that during the trial? Yes. That's got to be juror intimidation. I thought Antifa was an idea, but it turns out this idea has attorneys. Well, that's the argument they made. They made that we're not part of an organization. We are just anti-fascists.
Starting point is 00:11:19 You know, we had sued, we had tried to get documents about an Antifa member who was, I guess had beaten up someone. And she was a teacher. So we wanted documents about what was going on at the school. And Antifa intervened. They had lawyers. Spent a lot of time fighting. And she got sanctioned for doing this. And not only is it obviously an organization, but on top of this defense lawyer doing something which is exceedingly improper, I don't understand how he could have gotten a fair trial here.
Starting point is 00:11:54 You had, remember, they had to clear the courtroom. The court stopped letting the public in because Antifa was showing up and engaging in violent outbursts. So, you know, what would you do if you were a juror? You'd probably think, you know, I got a wife and family, I got kids at home or whatever. I'm getting out of here and finding them, you know, not guilty or not liable is an easy way out. What do you do in the case where it does appear that there's intentional uh juror intimidation what do you do if a judge isn't doing their job and intervening to defend them like what happens in
Starting point is 00:12:31 that case you know i'm no lawyer but uh my guess is there there could be something you would could appeal here that there was improper uh you know he didn't get a proper trial given the threats of violence directed at the jury, and the disruption of the court, which obstructs justice as well. It's an interesting case. It seemed to be a straightforward, you know, assault case. I'm not quite sure why the jury found the way he did. Is this the same, you know, there could be, you know, the liability as to how the jury had,
Starting point is 00:13:02 what the jury had to decide, you know maybe maybe they made the right decision but uh no way is was there the appearance of a fair trial here i see so this civil order could have been like it was a mob it was chaos he got attacked in the middle of the chaos nobody intended for any of it kind of you know maybe there was enough distance from the you know actual assaults that they could say i wasn't you know maybe there was enough distance from the you know actual assaults that they could say i wasn't you know i i wasn't involved directly and the jury could have bought that you know but that's assuming that the justice was fairly administered in the courtroom and not compromised by the implicit threats of the attorney and the actual threats
Starting point is 00:13:40 of the violent outbursts of antifa members who were showing up in the court that became so severe that the court had to stop the public from gaining access to the courtroom. I think other than media were allowed in. So when was that? How far through the trial did they start showing up and disrupting? I mean, this all occurred within the last week, seven, eight days, right? That's when I started reading about it, yeah. Yeah, that's jury intimidation also. How long has his trial
Starting point is 00:14:05 has been going on since like at least July 31st, I think, because Katie Daviscourt from Postmillennial is covering it and it looks like she started on like the 31st
Starting point is 00:14:17 is when the trial started, I think. Dude, there's no way I can wrap my head around this. I mean, I'm getting this from the Postmillennial,
Starting point is 00:14:23 which, you know, full disclosure, Andy Ngo works for, I think he might be part owner from the Postmillennial, which, you know, full disclosure, Andy Ngo works for. I think he might be part owner of the company or something, but maybe he's not owner. That it's almost like too bizarre. Like the prosecuting attorney says to the jury, I'll remember all of your faces as if the jury is not going to crap themselves and be like, what do I have to do for her not to come after me later? Like, what did I do wrong? But it's also the facts of the case. Andy Ngo being like like here's a video of me being mercilessly beaten in the street
Starting point is 00:14:48 on more than one occasion here's a guy who admitted to attacking me in a gym i need help then the defense attorney looks at the jurors and says i'll remember all of your faces and they're like oh the defense attorney yes yes not the prosecutor the defense attorney attorney then all then the jurors are watching these people mercilessly beat innocent people and that's not in question we watch them do it on camera and then the jurors are told we will never forget what you do this day the jurors are basically thinking themselves i don't have anything to do with this but they're cowards that's that's about it cowardice i i'm just like maybe we need artificial intelligence juries i can't take it anymore this
Starting point is 00:15:25 this juror tampering crap artificial intelligence juries are not going to weigh justice they're going to be hacked no they're going to weigh ease of ease of access but is it is it cowardice because if you can't get a fair trial and you're living in portland it seems like it would almost be the prudent decision to make to just be like look i think that they're probably guilty but i don't want to have to that's cowardice well it's cowardly but also it's prudent is it not like would you know it's not well was it your short-term gains you're sacrificing your future your neighbor's future your children's future for what a few moments of well i'll put it this way those who would give up essential liberties for freedom for secure for a small amount of security, deserve neither and will lose both.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. Well, I think that's fair. But I'm saying if you're in a position where you're already not able to get a fair trial in a case like this, it's kind of just time to leave. I agree. And there are a lot of people who say, like, I can't leave. I have kids and I can understand and respect that. And I respect people saying, I'm going to stay here and try and push back. But if you're on this jury. Yeah, you should still cast the proper vote yeah don't be a coward yeah you know and then if you're going to leave
Starting point is 00:16:31 anyway be like nah i'm going to find them liable i'm going to get get out look at this donald trump's found liable for an for a for a sexual assault 30 years ago in the biggest department store in the country in this in the country probably where nobody saw him the most famous guy in new york walks in a building none of the story makes up makes sense and these people in new york are like yeah screw it he's liable and then andy no is on camera being chased and beaten by people and they're like no not these guys one of the guys outright said yeah i was at a gym i poured water on him and hit his phone out of his hand and they're like nah you're fine crazy but donald trump oh you gotta you gotta you gotta. You know, my view is that was the jury sufficiently protected given the fact that Antifa is a terrorist organization? Apparently they said they were terrorists.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And if Al-Qaeda was in a trial or a terrorist group was in a trial, I think there would be a lot more security and protection for the jury and less tolerance from the court. But Antifa, we've been told time and time again, is, quote, anti-fascist, and, you know, they're doing the Lord's work when, in fact, you know, they're communist revolutionaries that kill people and beat them up if they get in the way. And so I don't see how Andy got a fair trial here. You know, we can argue about whether the jury should have found guilty you know liable or not liable but in the end that result has been compromised and you can't trust the results so we'll see what happens you can't i don't think you can trust i mean it's difficult for people to to trust the courts at all nowadays i think you know whether it be anti-situation or the police officer that just got sentenced to whatever five years or four years of prison for for just being on the scene of the uh the george george floyd uh
Starting point is 00:18:13 situation just just for being there he got he got charged and i honestly wasn't at all certain that the rittenhouse case was going to go the right direction so yeah i mean i don't i don't have anything thankfully i'm thankfully you're i agree i don't have any faith. Thankfully, I agree. I don't have any faith either. But yeah, I mean, there have been, there are so many court cases that have gone the wrong way, like especially in the past, you know, five years or so. And I think that it's likely that Trump is going to be found guilty on something. I think with all the stuff that's. He's going to be found guilty on all of it. Well, I mean, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But, you know, so... And they're all real thin charges. So I don't have a whole lot of faith in the judicial system anymore. If he's found guilty on all of them, Tim, do you think we actually see Donald Trump in prison? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Wow. Give me a scenario where Trump is not going to prison. What do you think, Tom? I think the odds are significant i don't think it's they're they're over 50 that he's found guilty and and you sentenced to prison whether he goes to prison or not i i think that would be pretty extraordinary and certainly it's not i don't think it's going to happen before the election although up in dc here uh i think that judge is angling to get that trial done before the end of the year. So I think it's fair to say it's unprecedented and perhaps there will be a house arrest circumstance or something to that effect. He's with Secret Service. He'll be confined to Mar-a-Lago. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:19:38 I think that proves it's BS. Right. Anybody who's convicted of trying to overthrow the United States, the United States government would face very, very extreme and severe charges like remanded a military detention facility. Donald Trump is like, you're free to go. You know, we'll see about it because all they're trying to do is jam up his chance at reelection. And they don't want to piss off his followers because if they did put him in jail without charge of trial, you'd have people on the street breaking stuff at the moment. Well, that's what I'm so concerned about is like, I tend to agree with Tim that the prosecution and the conviction, in my opinion, seems more likely than not, but I can't envision what America and his supporters look like and react with if that transpires either before or after the election. I don't know what, I don't know what this country looks like. You could see like Vivek Ramaswamy step in and take it, the lead and win the presidency and
Starting point is 00:20:24 pardon him, but big, big ask. Yeah take the lead and win the presidency and pardon him. Oh, that's interesting. Big ask, yeah. Or he could win the presidency and pardon himself from jail. You never know. Joe Biden could theoretically pardon himself on all these accusations against him as well. Or the next Democrat, if it's Gavin Newsom, he comes in and he wants to be the great unifier. He pardons everybody. Oh, that ain't happening.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Gavin Newsom is not going to pardon me. He'd piss off so many people. There is no way. Gavin Newsom will pardon the democrats and then send the doj after every republican exactly because you but once you become the president you want the republicans on your side even if you're a democrat what what what makes do you feel like joe biden has no he's been terrible at it he's just i don't you never feel like barack obama did a little bit really in beginning, he seemed to care about everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And then at some point, he got partisan. Ian, we're in the conquest stage of empire decline. I don't think that these people are going to be looking to reach across the aisle. The days of bipartisanship, I fear, have sailed. But conquest, as in the United States, is going to take over other countries? No, no, no. I just mean political conquest, where it's like, we're going to you know the reins and we're going to beat the hell out of our opponents and that's that's kind of seems what it is like it just it just ping-pongs back and
Starting point is 00:21:34 forth but it's just about conquest and well i i used to not use the term communist too much in discussing the political opposition in this country but i mean there is this rising communist approach and i don't mean literally communist but in the sense that the rules don't matter to us and if we're in control of the uh you know the tools of power we're going to do whatever we want they're literally communist yeah canada has a communist party and they are communist but at the risk of sounding like jordan peterson it's a lot of post-modernism in the way that they approach political uh you know dialogue or or the way they approach politics there's there's a lot of people that are making criticisms of what was it the the most recent one um they it's just very frequently the the left tries to
Starting point is 00:22:18 get people to be quote-unquote held to their own standard but they don't have a standard of their own and that's by you know that's that's because of the fact that they don't fundamentally believe in liberal principles that like they're they are a counter in light they have a counter enlightenment philosophy so like they don't believe that you can reason they don't believe that you can actually even have contact with reality they believe that our perception is is too colored by our our experiences to to ever really know what's true or real just so if no one can know what's true or real then you can never actually engage in dialogue from a a place of honesty you know just a couple just a couple weeks ago there was the uh the rfk censorship hearings and you had a bunch of democrat
Starting point is 00:23:01 politicians that were up there uh congress members i believe and they were just they were genuinely arguing in favor of censorship because they're like we have to prevent disinformation yeah we were looking out for you this was all good and i'm just like you're liberals that it's like entirely illiberal and it goes it goes completely and totally against every everybody over 40 years old when they think of a liberal they think of people that are actually liberal that would be like against censorship and want you know government agencies would all like approach the problem looking to have a positive result and i don't think that you can do that so much nowadays and i think that's because the people that are in position in Congress frequently have,
Starting point is 00:23:45 again, a different philosophy, a different worldview. They're not liberals. And that matters. We talked about this last week that Marxism is a path to communism, and so is technocracy. And I think a lot of people have been twisted by the technocratic nature of reality in the last 20 years with the internet and with social media and with spying that now they're just going the direction towards communism because they think that they cannot govern without it it has to be more control and like canada has of their four largest political parties the communist party of canada is one of the four they're built blatantly just because you call your political party the democratic party
Starting point is 00:24:18 doesn't mean you're not all communist you can be communist and call your party whatever you want so yes you can have many communists in government. I want to pull up this story here. This is from the recount. Minneapolis judge sentenced Tao Tao, a former police officer who held back bystanders, as other officers pinned George Floyd to the ground to four years and nine months in state prison. I look at this judge and I see a deeply, deeply evil individual. This cop, Tao Tao, probably pronouncing his name wrong because there's some nuance to that name.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's T-O-U-T-H-A-O. He's 37 years old. He's a nine-year veteran of the force. He arrives on scene and all he did was hold back bystanders. And I don't believe he could even see what was going on or knew what was going on. He's gotten, I think,
Starting point is 00:25:00 three years in prison at the federal level and now just about five more years at the state level. Well, this is it. If you go against the regime or actually if you accidentally go at go against them, they just destroy your life. You know, this this racialism, I think I think of it like this black hole theory of of politics and justice and such. It's like racialism, politics, you know, it's like a black hole and it distorts everything around it, including the justice system. And I don't see how, you know, I know
Starting point is 00:25:33 how we're all supposed to think about the Floyd verdicts, but I don't see how anyone could look at those Floyd verdicts and think, well, that was justice in the sense that the jury operated honestly and dispassionately without pressure again of violence and we forget about that part of this scenario and just kind of what people understood about floyd's uh situation at the time and the obvious and the training that the police officers had that they seemingly were trying to follow you know i didn't i didn't support the verdict it was you know you don't want to see someone die necessarily uh but certainly in my view was it it wasn't murder or anything close to it here's where i go crazy this tau tau gentleman he was basically responsible for
Starting point is 00:26:15 holding back the crowd while these other officers kneeled on him and sure maybe he didn't do everything perfect and maybe ultimately he could have prevented it. I don't know. What drives me crazy is that this guy, even though he's not really culpable, I think if you're evaluating this fairly, he's not truly culpable for the passing of George Floyd. But he's going to do maybe eight years. But then you have the murderer of Daniel Shaver in Arizona, which if you watch that video, it's one of the most egregious cop killings that has ever transpired in american history as far as i'm concerned and he walks free better than that he also gets a a pension for his psychological damage from doing what he did this is the guy who was told to crawl on the ground yes yep simon says execution yeah yeah i don't know much about that when did there was a guy in a hotel room and he had a pellet gun because he was a pest exterminator someone called into the police and said they saw someone with a
Starting point is 00:27:08 gun so these cops show up scream at him with rifles pointed saying on the ground put your hands up put your hands down crawl toward me crawl towards me now put your hands up now crawl towards me to put your hands up when the guy's pants start falling down and he pulls them up the cop just unloads on him he was he was drunk he had his shirt off and he was wearing sweatpants at the time he was in a hotel and they had him on his knees and so as he's crawling towards them with his hands up his the the his knees are dragging and pulling his pants down his sweats down so he goes and he reaches down to pull them up and while crying yeah yeah terrified he was horrified yeah this dan this
Starting point is 00:27:47 george floyd thing i think it's another example of how technocracy is leading us to to communism because what happens is the media chooses what clips get shared over and over and over again and what can't be shared i tried to talk about the media the media you mean we'll say social media algorithms meta meta for instance censored my posts trying to talk about the fentanyl in his system. The guy was doing an eight ball or a speedball or something. Against the rules. It takes behind the wheel of a car. So the media that got pushed out was the few minutes that he can't breathe.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I can't breathe. I can't breathe. People go crazy. And then the cops, the job of the law enforcement is like, protect the peace. They don't care about who's guilty or innocent. They don't want riots. Yes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That's right. This Tau Tau is going to prison because they just want to avoid more social breakdown that means understand this if you live in a city like minneapolis if you live in a city like portland or seattle and you are a victim of violent crime from the likes of a far-left extremist or even just a run-of-the-mill criminal you could be the victim and there is no out for you. You fight back. You go to jail. You try and stop the criminals. You go to jail just like the guys in the Ahmaud Arbery case. You cower in the corner of your house as people scream outside. The cops go into your home and they arrest you. That's what we've been seeing happen.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And of course, it's the black community in Minneapolis who suffer the most here because the police have been decimated there. They have virtual no protection from the police anymore. a result of the soft on crime policies resulting or where we're not resulting from where the floyd killing was used as an excuse to advance this radical agenda of decriminalization of everything they don't believe in putting anyone in prison for any reason yeah you know it's not they just don't oppose the death penalty they don't want anyone in jail and when you think the whole system's corrupt all jails are corrupt and no one should go to them. This is a radical approach that's getting people killed right now as we speak. Well, one minor clarification.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It really is specifically dictionary definition anarcho-tyranny because not only are they not enforcing violent crime laws, but they also disarm the people. So they can't even defend themselves. So on both ends of it, you're basically just set up to be a victim. And then that's, is that because from the leader's perspective, if you have one class violating another class, and then the other class decides to fight back,
Starting point is 00:30:15 now you've got two classes of villains and you can arrest them all. The criminals destabilize the system and keep people in a state of constant fear and chaos, unable to take any actions against the power structure so long as there are people at the bottom fighting each other the people in power because we need grassroots movements to control the the top that's the whole point the united states is the people control the government if the people are fighting each other they're not
Starting point is 00:30:41 going to be able to rein in that power structure i'm just concerned that what clint was saying that the ship has sailed uh in the empire is now in the conquest i think like throughout history what we have seen and what we've seen in our media depicting potentialities of revolution i'm reminded of the scene from v for vendetta where the narrator the inspector is narrating he says eventually someone does something stupid. It then shows the police officer, the finger man, shoot the little girl wearing the mask. And then all the locals just surround him with baseball bats, pipes and crowbars. And then the camera pans up and the assumption is they beat him to death. When you get to a point where police officers are going to prison for literally doing nothing, when you've got stories of people who on January 6th were walking around confused.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I learned this story just recently of a woman who I met. And she said that it was a few hours after the Capitol had been breached. They were walking around D.C. And they walked to the Capitol with nothing going on. There's no people. There's like people walking around. There's no cops. There's no barricades.
Starting point is 00:31:39 No one's saying anything. They walked up looking around and then left for misdemeanor charges. We should have her on the show. A year and a half in jail. I was thinking we should have her her on the show i don't know how prudent it is to have someone on the show it's facing january six charges but that story needs to be well an interview perhaps but the question is at what point do regular people say there isn't a justice system i'm getting and i want to clarify this the reason why the founding fathers thought innocent until proven guilty was so important was not because they like you, partly because they like you and they're good Christians, God fearing
Starting point is 00:32:09 people who believed in individuality and right. But no, no, no, no. There was something greater than founding fathers talked about. If people believe that that if no matter what they do, the government will punish or imprison them, then they have no incentive to be law abiding citizens. If a criminal is treated all the same as an innocent person, then screw it. But if the system says we protect you if you're innocent, then there is every incentive for the individual to be an innocent person, knowing that we'll fight on your behalf. But that's changing now with what this judge has done,
Starting point is 00:32:39 with what they're doing in January 6th. They are telling the people, no matter what you do, we will punish you. No matter if you're innocent, confused, ignorant, or otherwise. If you're at your house in Milwaukee and BLM shows up screaming and threatening you, a group that had previously set fire to a house twice, the cops will come into your home and arrest you. That actually happened. Fair point. The guy living in the house brandished a shotgun through the window.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Not out the window, but up to the glass of his window he showed the people protesting he was armed so the police came went into his house and arrested him and the blm activists cheered for it these are people who had previously been at a house that they set on fire twice yeah yeah the guy that the guy that got arrested his house was set on fire no no no okay blm shows up uh blm affiliated activists essentially formed a mob showed up to a house where they believed two girls had been illegally held it was not true they set fire to the house the fire department puts the fire out they leave the mob sets fire again fire department puts the fire out that same group similar group organized by similar people show up to the house of a guy who had criticized Black Lives Matter, screaming and protesting in front of his home.
Starting point is 00:33:48 In front of his window, he brandishes a shotgun in his own house. They call the police. They brandish the weapon. The cops walk up to his house and arrest him from in his own home. It is easier to arrest you, the target of the mob, than it is to deal with a riot. Yeah. I was watching these comments comments some of them and i you know when we talk about this stuff i get this is the black pill i can take it i don't necessarily get black pilled i can handle a little bit of it i'm like where's the i'm war
Starting point is 00:34:17 gaming this where's it go revolution an upheaval and an overturning of the u.s government to something that will never be nearly as good as u.S. government. We have it so good right now. Yeah. This is, what were you going to say, Tom? I think our republic is tottering, Ian. I think, you know, if Trump is jailed and is unable to campaign or effectively has the election turned against him because of this jailing, you know, there's not going to be riots. There's not going to be mass demonstrations. There's just going to be riots. There's not going to be mass demonstrations. There's just going to be concern.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And, you know, the Constitution will have been left behind, will be in a post-constitutional system where American citizens who are on the wrong side of the Democratic Party, and this, I don't like to get partisan, but it's true. This is the Democratic Party using the Justice Department to jail their political opponents. And there are a lot of Americans who aren't going to participate in the system, our political
Starting point is 00:35:09 system, if they fear that they're going to get jailed. I think one of the ugly undersides of the indictment of Trump is Smith's targeting of citizens in the several states who were, best they understood under the law trying to challenge an election and in a way that had been done many times before that could seemingly comply with federal state and constitutional law and he suggested they were engaged in criminal conspiracy so that's a signal don't don't don't challenge any elections that we're we're we've won so to speak otherwise you'll get in jail but now some people are going to say no and they will continue to but a lot will won't that we've won, so to speak. Otherwise, you'll get jailed. Now, some people are going to say no,
Starting point is 00:35:48 and they will continue to, but a lot will stay out of the game. I want to jump to this story from the Daily Mail. We're talking about anarcho-tyranny. We're talking about the justice system no longer bringing justice, innocent people being locked up and the machine being weaponized against the Democrats weaponizing system against political opponents.
Starting point is 00:36:09 But here's what I think could actually lead to actual revolution or civil war. Moody's cuts credit ratings of 10 U.S. banks and warns six more could face a similar fate. But firm insists U.S. banking system is not broken. This is disconcerting considering what happened with Silicon Valley Bank and several other banks earlier this year. But we also have this from TimCast.com. U.S. credit card debt hits record $1 trillion. Total U.S. household debt top $17 trillion as Americans turn to debt to cover living
Starting point is 00:36:39 expenses. Do you know what the one thing, there's a few things that precipitate civil war and revolution. Do you know what the one thing there's a few things that precipitate civil war and revolution? You know, the simplest is the most obvious and simplest catalyst for governmental breakdown. Inflation would be my no food. I'll run out of food. Yeah. When people are unable to buy food, we saw it in the Arab Spring.
Starting point is 00:36:58 You see it in the French Revolution. It's not absolute, but typically when people struggle to make ends meet, they become angry and desperate. And when they're hungry, nothing else matters. So right now, maybe it's a little preliminary. We're seeing we're seeing corporate and governmental collapse. We're seeing our institutions decay. We're seeing the judicial system decay. We're seeing the Democrats weaponize government against their political rivals. I will say this with absolute certainty that Democrats are cheating in the 2024 election.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And what I mean by that is not that there's fraud or they're doing any weird ballot stuff. What they're doing is fairly obvious. They're literally arresting and criminally charging their political opponents. A fair and honest election is when three times they've done it three times. That's right. A fair or next week. A fair and honest election is when you say, choose me. I'm the best. Don't choose him. He's bad. And the other guy says the same thing. Then people will decide that's a fair and honest election. when you say choose me i'm the best don't choose him he's bad and the other guy says the same thing then people will decide that's a fair and honest election what they're doing now is saying we can't win so lock him up and prevent him and hobble him in any way possible that's cheating yeah when you when you take all that into consideration with the fact
Starting point is 00:37:57 that our financial system is whacked out of proportion it there really is a substantial risk with everything going on and there have been food shortages especially with covid and everything that if the monetary system faces severe turmoil people can't find houses to live in people can't afford to pay rent people can't afford to buy food you add that into the mix with all the political turmoil and then something kicks off yeah i mean not only that but also there's the concern about inflation and stuff like that, because right now the dollar is only backed by confidence in the government and stuff. So we really do have a a historic, historically volatile situation on our hands. We've got re like what is it like generation, a couple of generations or multiple generations since we've had economic inequality
Starting point is 00:38:47 uh of this level yeah between at this level and that's something whether or not it i mean i know that people's material material poverty has gone down but if you've got a society where there's significant difference between the highest earners and the lowest earners and stuff you do get civil unrest and you get unhappy populations you've got you've got the changing of the the global order when it comes to monetary policy with bricks and with other you know people starting to move away from the dollar it's it's i don't see a whole lot of like positive things on the horizon let me let me double down on that real briefly sick thanks man yeah the the federal reserve held the the federal funds rate at a quarter point for approximately a decade since the the great recession they're just like we're just
Starting point is 00:39:37 going to keep it at zero the zero bound forever there'll be no problems from that right and then we're going to print five trillion dollars in the year 2020, and we're going to lock down the economy, create supply chain shortages, which also add to the inflationary pressure. And then in a 12-month period starting in February of 2022, they're going to start to hike the Fed funds rate very aggressively, a half point every time they have a meeting. And they're going to take it from a quarter point up to approximately five and a half, six, which then takes the mortgage rates from three and a quarter, and it puts it up to seven and a half, eight.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It also makes it so that all of these T-bills and these short-term debt instruments that are held on all of these banking institutions, they are now bleeding all over the floor. That's the whole reason that Moody's is marking them down, by the way. It is strictly a federal reserve created crisis i want to be very clear about that this would not be happening the american people would not be living off of credit cards and have a trillion dollars of debt if it weren't for inflation that's why all of this is happening and let me add to that uh it's this is all politics you know i'm surprised this doesn't happen sooner because an honest evaluation of the way our banks are regulated, the decider about whether a bank is solvent is a political appointee in the Biden administration.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And so all these decisions are political. The Silicon Valley Bank, that decision to shut that bank down was a political decision made as a result of lobbying by Democrats. Yes. And then the bank here on the East Coast made as a result of lobbying by Democrats. And then the bank here on the East Coast that was subsequently shut down. Signature. Signature. That bank was perfectly fine, but they didn't like the fact that they were in the business of crypto. And they told them that, and that's the reason they were shut down.
Starting point is 00:41:19 We knew from the 2008 shutdowns, because we got the documents, Judicial Watch did. They didn't know why they were shutting the banks down. They just didn't have a systematic way of shutting banks down or doling out financial support for the banks. It was, well, we want everyone to get the support so no one knows who the banks are. So the good banks should get money and the bad banks should get money and we'll disguise who the bad banks are by making everyone else take the subsidy. It was completely political. The same goes with the Fitch
Starting point is 00:41:53 knocking down our credit rating here in the United States. It's politics. It's politics. We've got politicians who have decided that printing money and politicians of both parties. The best way they can stay in power is to print money.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And they don't care what the consequences are. It's to buy votes. Yeah. That's right. Transferring wealth. Chicken in every pot. You know? And so on top of the increase in – as they were increasing interest rates, they kept the spigot flowing in terms of spending
Starting point is 00:42:25 at the at the government level and you know there's no sign that it's going to be curtailed no it's not going to be curtailed you know so now we're all supposed to be excited they've increased you know they've cut down our salaries by four or five percent practically speaking our spending power over the last year. And now we're supposed to be satisfied that we've lost that purchasing power, that the prices have been cemented at a higher level. They're not getting lower. They're just not getting as high as quickly as they previously did. So there's no easy way out for this. But there is, other than curtailing government spending, taking politics out of the regulation of the banking industry, meaning the government's got to get, you know, spend a little less money trying to effectively tell everyone that we will insure all deposits as opposed to making sure that banks that make bad decisions go to weigh the dodo bird.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I keep thinking that maybe we could default on the debt to the Federal Reserve or at least the interest to the Federal Reserve and be like, suck it. But that's like telling the Swiss bank, the Bank for International Settlements, suck it. And would they then excommunicate the United States from the liberal economic order if we did something? Probably. It's not that hard. You just need to change the trajectory just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And for small government people, it's disappointing because we can spend a whole lot of money if we just change the trajectory not too much as far as you know conservatives would be but in terms of like social security and government spending just change the directory just a little bit and it's a and it allows the government to spend money virtually world without end forever uh but they don't even want to do that well what's so frustrating is like literally a 10 cut across the board and we could balance the budget pretty quickly because they've taken so much in tax receipts and it's like do you think that there's not 10 in excess spending and in every federal department like yeah i'm sure there is just look at the war in ukraine look at where all those billions are going like you think they can't cut 50 of that and still get the same bang for their buck it's just an absurdity but i i want to like
Starting point is 00:44:27 really emphasize to the conservative audience that's listening right now it's income it's incumbent upon you guys to understand that it is federal reserve policy that is making it so challenging to have household formation to get married to have kids all of these things that you guys consistently lament you miss the biggest factor is that inflation has forced both parents into the workforce and it has made it incredibly and increasingly challenging to be a parent, to get married, to buy a home. All of these things are Federal Reserve policy. Only the government can do this type of damage. That's a large component of it, but cultural issues. Of course.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's very important too. It's hand in hand. I think cultural is the bigger issue. Those central banks, they're all kind of controlling and manipulating the media, which is manipulating the culture. Because why are people not more up in arms about the Federal Reserve? If they knew, if you knew that that private bank was disrupting your life, you would have taken it back 100 years ago. I would hope. If we did not ever have the revolution in the workplace, women stayed at home, it wouldn't matter what the Federal Reserve tried to do.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Women would not. But that coincides with the inception of the Federal Reserve. 1913, you have the women's liberation. They start to hit the workforce. I think it's all part and parcel of the same dynamic. Sure, sure. But I mean, the cultural change has to happen first. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I think one chases the other. It's like it's not necessarily a— Yeah, World War I got people really, really culturally messed up right after the Federal Reserve was ready to go. You got know-nothing politicians sitting at the knobs trying to manage the economy, and they don't know what they're doing. And things get out of whack now and again because they don't know what they're doing. I mean, I remember in 2008, I read in the Wall Street Journal when they first started giving money away to the banks, the banks said to the Wall Street Journal, well, they didn't give us a choice. I said, well, isn't that interesting? So we sued.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Judicial Watch sued for the records. Long story short, they said, we got the records. We want to meet with the top nine banks. Bring them into the Treasury Department. And the chief of staff is like, okay, who are the top nine banks? So they didn't even know who the top nine banks were. So they bring them in, the heads of the top banks of the United States of America. And they said to them, we're going to give you subsidy. And you should know that if you don't
Starting point is 00:46:34 want to take it, we're going to make it so that your regulators require you to do so. And they made them sign little permission forms, two or three lines. I agree. I, Jamie Diamond, agree to take 12 billion dollars whatever you know contingent on approval from the board of directors that's how they quote bailed out the banks and it was never a bailout it's a takeover yeah if you every time you hear about bailing out banks substitute the word takeover and you understand why we're in the state we are you can watch the big uh the big short is a movie that that is really good that covers this kind of stuff. And also Too Big to Fail was another one.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Too Big to Fail was kind of the crisis from the government's perspective. And The Big Short was like three or four different groups of people that actually kind of saw the housing crisis coming and what it would do to the whole economy. Actually, you know better than I do. You would. Well, yeah. I mean, I was a mortgage lender, and I came out of college right into the teeth of that, and it was a nightmare. And fortunately, we've gotten past that.
Starting point is 00:47:34 But there was actually a bailout with Silicon and the other bank that I'm blanking on right now, Signature, in January of this year. And they created a very similar lending vehicle. People don't even know about this. But because of what I just described, where the Fed funds rate was escalated, and they signature in January of this year. And they created a very similar lending vehicle. People don't even know about this, but because of what I just described where the Fed funds rate was escalated and they had all of these short-term debt instruments that were ultimately upside down, they created a short-term lending vehicle that was only on offer to banks that had... It was never given explicitly, but based off of my analysis, it was any bank that had over $200
Starting point is 00:48:05 billion in cash on hand or deposits or money under management. And so basically what that means is that if you are banking with an institution that's midsize or massive, then your deposits north of $250,000 are insured. If you are banking and depositing with a bank that has less than 200 billion, so that's your mom and pop bank. Those are the banks that we would probably, us people, would like to do business with. Now our deposits aren't insured with them. So what does that mean? It drives all of us in this room to make the calculation that it's actually more prudent for me to bank with this scumbag Jamie Dimon than it is to bank with this scumbag Jamie Diamond than it is to bank with this mom and pop down the street. That is a terrible mismanagement of the economy,
Starting point is 00:48:49 and it is not accidental. It is ultimately the reason that Mercola got debanked, the reason that the entire social credit score system is coming. They want us in the biggest banks because the biggest banks are willing to debank us if we don't go along with it. It's easier to control if you've only got five banks as opposed to 3000 banks.
Starting point is 00:49:06 What would you rather do as a dumb government regulator who wants to tell everyone to do? So Clint, what would you say is the best option for people to stay away, to continue to move away from the bigger banks and do your best to stay in credit, like credit unions and stuff like that? I mean, the issue is if you're a mid-sized business that has more than $250,000 that you'd like to put in a bank, I can't in good conscience tell you to put that into a smaller bank because if we end up in a crisis period, there's a very good chance that you will have your assets frozen. You won't be able to receive them.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Now, you can just diversify. You can put that into other accounts. But the tragedy is that you have all of these these uh startup companies that are more conservative leaning that are trying to compete with these goliaths and they now have to do business with their enemies which is the bank of america the jp morgan chase um it's just not it's just not a good footing for our ability to fight back and i don't think it's i don't think it's an accident. I want to talk about this story from CNN, D.C. grand jury that handed up 2020 election indictment against Trump meets again. Now, there's a lot of speculation that they're going to be meeting again because more indictments are going to be handed down
Starting point is 00:50:14 against Donald Trump. But there's also speculation they're now going to go after Giuliani and the and what they refer to as unindicted co-conspirators in Donald Trump's what do they call it? Criminal fraud against the United States. So it looks like there's a there's a there's a likelihood. I think it makes more sense. They're going to go after those quote unquote co-conspirators. What they actually mean is Trump's lawyers. They're going to go after the people who gave Trump legal counsel.
Starting point is 00:50:41 This is indicative of the expansion of the weaponization of government. Despite the fact that the Republicans are supposedly probing the weaponization of the DOJ, they're just ramping all of this up. But Tom, I'm wondering, I'm wondering what you think about this. What are they doing? Well, they're escalating. There's been no check. There's been no consequence for this abuse for the Justice Department or the FBI or anyone else involved here. You have Democrats in Georgia about to indict Trump, it looks like. You have the Democrats in New York indict Trump. And what they're trying to do is freeze the Republican Party in the run-up to the election
Starting point is 00:51:16 by saying not only is the candidate and the former president, but people around him, the consultant class, your campaign lawyers, activists involved in advising you as to how to handle election disputes, they're subject to being thrown in jail if this indeed, this is the case that they end up getting indicted. And I think that's probably going to be true. You know, I testified to the grand jury back in February. They sent the FBI knocking on our door, my home, in November. And, you know, what did Judicial Watch do? Well, we were out there publicly talking about how the Mar-a-Lago case was a sham since they changed their position on presidential records from the Clinton-Soctor case that we had been involved in
Starting point is 00:51:56 and changed it completely to go after Trump. Came up with new rules. And so complete retaliation. And then they spent three hours questioning me about emails and such about presidential electors and i you know and i told them i said well i don't understand what's going on here democrats challenged and had alternative slates of electors in 1960 so i guess it's different for republicans nixon chose to ignore the certified electors instead he chose the democrat alternate slate to be counted and they were counted yeah yeah so and on top of that I told the grand jury and the I had three prosecutors questioning me so it was a triple team on on me and they were
Starting point is 00:52:35 I told them that I was concerned in the summer 2020 because I read about in the New York Times that Democrats were planning a succession, threats of succession and civil war if the electoral college went towards Trump. And I said, well, you know, of course, obviously that isn't going to be investigated by this Justice Department. And what I saw from this grand jury experience that I had was I was in a political argument with these prosecutors about First Amendment protected activity. And I was just sitting there thinking, why am I being questioned about it? This is a political debate. Why did they question you? Why did they call you in? It was harassment and retaliation. Judicial Watch is the number one litigator against the Justice Department. We criticized the Justice Department. We sued for records about their abuse of Trump. They know who
Starting point is 00:53:24 we are. They know who I am. And we were the top voice in calling them out. And it drove them crazy. And of course, the big accusation was, well, Trump was listening to Tom Fitton. It's just all sorts of... Imagine if the head of the ACLU was called in because of the work he was doing at the ACLU. That's what they did to Judicial Watch. And of course, we don't get the protection and media support that the ACLU gets. But frankly, our work is more consequential. That's why the Justice Department was harassing and abusing us. So what I saw happen at that grand jury was abuse. And I'll tell you one quick story. So at one point, the prosecutor said to me, so are you going to talk about this to anyone, what happened here?
Starting point is 00:54:07 I said, I don't know. I said, it's, you know, I mean, I have to talk to our lawyers, but that's a privilege. Are you going to talk about this to anyone? I said, I don't know. It's publicly out there. Are you going to talk about this to anyone? I said, I don't know. He said, well, oh, by the way, I thought you're allowed to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And I said, you know, frankly, given your questions, it was pretty intimidating and chilling. So this guy was trying to get me to swear under oath to something I didn't have to do, which was to keep quiet on this abuse of power that I was facing. So I saw this guy was trying to corner me into swearing under oath that I wasn't going to talk. So that was was in my view outrageous prosecutorial abuse i'm still ticked about it and i hope the courts take care of it
Starting point is 00:54:50 in the end so i have no surprise they i have no surprise no surprise that trump was indicted after what i saw there and you know the grand jury's sitting there i don't know the cultural divide in this country is is unsalvageable as far as i'm concerned it's the the judge in dc that you right now they're trying to stop trump from being able to speak during a political campaign while they use the case against him to campaign the only way you look at this judge in in minnesota who's sentencing these cops to prison these leftist judges don't care about what justice means. They don't care about fairness. They care about power. They're not judges. They're they're effectively they're
Starting point is 00:55:30 occupying forces placed in these roles for the purpose of destroying anyone who opposes them. I mean, if the judges were honest, I don't know if honest is the right word. If I were a judge, I say, you know what? I'm not playing your game. You're trying to make me interfere in elections. I'm not going to do it. Your case is paused. You come back to me in November or December or January of next year. Then we'll talk about what we're going to do. But in the meantime, we're not going to use my courtroom to litigate the campaign and i'm not going to start telling president trump that he can't defend himself as jack smith made a political statement last week talking about how trump was responsible for the overthrow the attempted overthrow of the government and all the violence on capitol hill for which he wasn't even charged jack smith should be the one on the dock if the judges were acting appropriately because he said it was true with he didn't say allegedly he just said the crime he did the crime without the prosecutorial
Starting point is 00:56:30 uh due diligence he he well i mean i think that's a charitable way of putting it uh but he came out and suggested that trump was behind violence and he was promoting the indictment and you know as folks who are smarter about this have explained, you know, a prosecutor can't come out and say, you know, read the indictment. That's the truth. Well, that's not what a prosecutor does. A prosecutor is supposed to say, read the indictment and all the evidence behind it, both inculpatory, the stuff that makes the guy look bad, and exculpatory.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And so to say anything else is infecting the jury pool so there's one man who infected the jury pool in my view that hasn't been held accountable and that's jack smith and of course don't even get started in all the leaks that have been i think fairly attributed to the justice department of grand jury material you know the problem is for i think conservatives and even libertarians to to a great degree post-liberals whatever this faction is keep thinking we're playing a game of monopoly and we got to roll the dice to see if we can get ahead meanwhile they're just pulling bills out of the bank and doing whatever they want yeah it's like a game of monopoly where the goal of the game is to be the most popular person in the room doesn't matter if you win the board game well you
Starting point is 00:57:43 can stand up and flip the table and sing a song, and if everyone looks at you and starts clapping, you win. I completely disagree. That's not even it. That's what this culture, you said the culture bifurcation you were talking about earlier. I agree. There's no way to get one of those pieces to win. You need to create something new that is so dynamically different. What I'm saying is, imagine playing
Starting point is 00:58:00 a board game where you keep playing by the rules, and your opponent is cheating right in front of you, telling you they're going to cheat. They keep doing it, and you just keep playing. Yeah, sounds like those keep playing by the rules and your opponent is cheating right in front of you telling you they're going to cheat they keep doing it and you just keep playing yeah sounds like those aren't really the rules well in the case of the republicans on the hill they're funding it yeah i mean there's not a thing the justice department's doing that i'm complaining about that isn't getting funding plus by the republican house uh leadership and so they have a decision over the next few months whether they're going to defund jack smith they're not defund the censorship they won't but you know but don't but but don't
Starting point is 00:58:29 let anyone tell you they can't do anything about what is going on with the attack on trump so trump is going to get jailed i think potentially there's a good chance that happens americans are being censored all this other abuse abuse is taking place with the full funding by Republicans. And they are saying, well, maybe legislation next year. But right now, we're being hurt. And they could shut it down tomorrow. But they're on vacation. There's a seven-week, they're in a seven-week, middle of a seven-week vacation. That is unconscionable for the American government to vacate for seven weeks at a time when you have the internet. You guys get back to work. What in the hell? clint you're about to say something awesome
Starting point is 00:59:08 no i was just gonna say um you know i don't i don't actually get that upset with jack smith jack smith is a hit man for the regime that dude's doing his job what i'm upset with are the the conservatives that have had an entire session in which they could have defanged and defunded so much of this nonsense and they opted not to where are they they don't even want to impeach biden there's not enough evidence well i mean it's like the it's like msnbc's running the republican house caucus in terms of being the their fearfulness and proceeding with the impeachment inquiry against biden what would be the process if the republicans were to defund this process like what would that look like who would say what how would it move forward he would say the justice department can't spend any money prosecuting any presidential candidate you could
Starting point is 00:59:53 name the person um you know prior to whatever date they're you know you know they're they're scribes on the hill that write the language out to prevent the funding of jack smith they can actually defund people by name so anyone who's been listed in terms of censoring americans they can be defunded and uh believe me i've been raising this since republicans came into power and congress can do this go ahead with congress can do this without without the senate without the president they can just they control the purse on their own correct the house has to be willing to go to the mat on this and and by going to the mat is the republicans aren't
Starting point is 01:00:31 the senate isn't going to want to buy into this yeah but they need the support of the house in order to keep the government funded and so there's going to be a fight and probably the fall over whether to continue funding of the government because they won't get all the appropriations bills out and there'll be one gargantuan bill that has to be voted on in order to keep the government operating for either a month or whatever period they agree and only with the acquiescence of the house would that happen and so in order to get that acquiescence they could say this is what we want and if they're not willing to say that that just tells you where they stand on on these on this crisis we're facing this isn't a political debate when you're trying to jail a former president and the current candidate you're you're kind of you know you're leaving the constitution
Starting point is 01:01:15 behind practically speaking and the test here is you know it wasn't like trump did something it's like well he robbed the bank you know we don't know what the law is there you here they have these novel applications of the law not only in new york but in both cases against him in the federal government certainly down in georgia and that tells you that they had him they targeted him and they tried to figure out how to jail him you know because they had picked him as a target the document shit was the worst dude because biden had documents too like let it alone yeah hillary clinton had documents what the fuck well and and then also russian collusion and then uh i think it was actually today or yesterday that you have the fbi agent that's now getting prosecuted for russian collusion and he was the one that lied to get uh the investigation started on trump in the first place unreal everything they do
Starting point is 01:02:03 james lindsey iron law uh iron law projection yeah did you see incredible oh there was a tweet from like was it the secretary of state no it was i was just like is this satire they were like we we condemn the russian behavior of silencing the opponent political oh right right was that blinking it was and i was like is this is a satire because this is what they're doing to donald trump right now is the exact same thing what an embarrassment i mean because you know putin and g look at us and they must say who who are they kidding america's different and they pretend they're different putin recognizes what's going on with trump g recognizes what's going on with trump yeah but we're but you know the the you know the idiot class that runs dc they pretend there's a serious crime that's being charged here everyone else sees well the guys
Starting point is 01:02:51 he's arrested his political opponent what else do you need well and this this is what you know uh russia gets or putin gets dragged through the mud for is exactly what's transpiring in america right now which is going after your political opponents and jailing people for speech and reporting and all these other things like everything we blame russia for we're guilty of if not worse it's incredible and biden can shut it down he's the president of the united states and if he was honest and ethical he said you know what guys i i don't care what crimes you've come up with. I'm not arresting my opponent. We're not prosecuting him. No. And he's constitutionally unable to do that. But instead, we found out on the documents case that Biden White House intervened at key times to keep the case going against Trump and harassing
Starting point is 01:03:36 him. So when it comes to this arrest of Trump now twice by his administration, Biden is ultimately responsible well and just a quick reminder the second impeachment of trump when he was the president was about the phone call to ukraine where he was trying to dig up this dirt which we now have pretty damn good evidence was all true yeah yeah charisma hunter so it was lincoln i got the tweet here he says the u.s strongly condemns russia's conviction of opposition leader leader Alexei Navalny on politically motivated charges. The Kremlin cannot silence the truth. Navalny should be released.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I was going to retweet that and be like, is this satire? But I'm like, I don't want to be on their list. I'm already in that mindset where it's like this is the enemy government. I do not like you're on their list. You're on the list. Like, I don't I don't think it obviously I thought it was satire. I was like, is I knew it wasn't. I knew it was really
Starting point is 01:04:25 political bullshit but it was like this is so ridiculous this is what they're doing i want to read that again i gotta i gotta see this is from his political um account it's not as personal well i come i condemn the political charges against president trump and biden should uh remove them as soon as possible yeah i agree i agree he has every every um like it would do everything good for him if he did that because and i think republicans are failing here i know i know he there's a contested primary i understand that you know don't get in the way of a politician and his quest for higher office but to me the principal position for any candidate would be uh you know i i want to be president but i i don't want the
Starting point is 01:05:06 president trump to be abused and i stand against this oh yeah do you want to rule over the ashes of america like is that really is that a win no i you know and and unfortunately not too many candidates have said that i think i fixed this tweet for you guys oh nice i fixed it so now it reads the united states strongly condem condemns Biden's charges against opposition leader Donald Trump on politically motivated charges. The White House cannot silence the truth. Trump's charges should be dropped.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Now, this is fake, by the way. What I did was I just right-clicked it and hit inspect and then went into the, and just changed it. Yeah, that's what I tweeted that out. Condemns the conviction of opposition leader on politically motivated charges.
Starting point is 01:05:43 The fucking Secretary of state tweeted that out that's blinking you know and it's and it's you know the first i have to tell everyone it's the first amendment obviously free speech free association but the big aspect of the first amendment that's being attacked here is you have a right to petition your government ian and you should be able to criticize a government leader and ask the vice president hey what can you do to stop this election malfeasance and it's not a crime to do it and that's what they're telling us now it's a crime if you ask the government the wrong question or make the wrong request no we're supposed to that's
Starting point is 01:06:17 the purpose of this country that's exactly right but ethos of this nation but consider the government but consider that you were concerned about quote tweeting anthony blinken it's like i don't want to get involved no but i i get it that's my point though is like you're right to be concerned because we already know that they're like look i was reading my tweets to the grand jury quite happily because i thought they were great tweets but it was outrageous that i was being harassed before a federal grand jury about my tweets about what the justice department is doing i want to point something out i think my brother pointed that to me uh anthony blinken all right what's what's his first initial a yeah what's his last name blinken now say they say that a blinken a
Starting point is 01:06:56 a blinken it's not an ax a blinken tweeted well interesting a a blinken is going to lead us into a second civil war. Fascinating. Oh, that's funny. But this is the perfectly. Well, hold on. We got news. We got news. We got news from the New York Post. McCarthy demands Biden give us his bank statements as impeachment probe looms.
Starting point is 01:07:17 OK, so we can get a little worked up, I guess. Oh, look, he's going after Biden's bank statements. But I just want to point out. Why is he only asking now for well it's it's because he's dropping grains of sand every week where it's like oh if if joe biden if we find out that he's a little bit more corrupt than we already know he is we might actually ask each other whether or not we should ask the government for the authority to ask for bank statements to maybe question an impeachment the old phrase is boob bait for the bubba's that's what that is yeah what is that mccarthy's not
Starting point is 01:07:46 going to do anything you know you kind of as as he as as uh as tim was pointing out you have just a little bit to keep your your base excited and motivated but not do enough and and i have to i i largely agree with democrat critiques of republican concerns about corruption that it's a lot a lot of it is political they kind of want to use it to get some votes now and again, keep the other side on their heels. But when it comes to accountability, they are fearful of it and they don't want to do it. And so here, the danger here is,
Starting point is 01:08:19 for McCarthy and Republicans, is that they just keep stringing this along. Everyone's going to see this as political. You know, stop, you know, fish or cut bait, guys. We don't need another hearing. We don't need another report. We don't need another email release. Judicial Watch can write reports.
Starting point is 01:08:36 We release emails. What does Congress do? They can defund. They can make criminal referrals. They can impeach. McCarthy had any guts. What he'd do right now is he'd say, all these committees investigating, you know, the House Oversight Committee, the Weaponization Committee, Judiciary Committee, the Homeland Security Committee, you're all part of the impeachment inquiry. And now we're all to figure out who to impeach uh from you know lower level officials
Starting point is 01:09:05 you know like like meyer orcas all the way up to the president of the united states just do it that sounds glorious you think that they're not going to do any of that i know but it still sounds glorious well they might they might as someone you know i tell you my understanding is house members are getting a lot of pushback on their failure to do what folks like tom fiton are suggesting and so it's not like we're speaking into the wind here there are many many republicans and conservatives in the base of the republican party and more than a few honest democrats want something done about biden corruption and they're tired of this what we're seeing here give us the you know engaging in performance fighting isn't going to satisfy you know we've been through this before time and time again is it donor driven
Starting point is 01:09:53 is that why they don't want to go to the mat on this that they they would lose there must be corporate interests that make them not want to go this route because i don't understand it otherwise because like their base would be jumping for joy they would be re-elected in the landslide so probably they're probably they want to wait they want to wait till an election well i you know i don't want to say that there's no political downside to doing this and you know i i would admit there might be yeah but i mean do they have a choice i mean what like i mean can you can you not not impeach biden at this point i don't see how you not do it maybe they're looking for like golden evidence before they push forward because if they want his bank statements they're looking for connections to barisma and hunter and then maybe that'll be they didn't ask
Starting point is 01:10:34 for the bank statements you know they spent the last six months and i think there was some smart activity there in that regard let's like let's get to a fight with hunter and joe for his bank statements we can get all these other bank statements pretty easily and that's what they did and so now it's now august they're all on vacation and they're talking about well maybe we'll start asking for the biden uh james you know hunter biden or i don't know i'm assuming joe biden's bank statements i mean i don't know what joe biden's bank statements are going to show my guess is you know who's paying his contractor fees up in well delaware i mean no I don't know what Joe Biden's bank statements are going to show. My guess is, you know, who's paying his contractor fees up in Delaware? I mean, no, he doesn't pay any bills.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Hunter was paying all the bills. They've got to do more than bank statements. Hunter is the bag man. I want everyone to understand that. The money was being funneled through these corrupt business cutouts into Hunter's bank accounts. But then Hunter was responsible for taking care of all of the expenditures for the entire Biden family. That's the whole way they circumvented this, folks. It's like it's pretty obvious at this point if you've paid any attention at all. That's what they did. Biden doesn't ever touch the money. That's been in Washington 50 years. This is not a surprise to folks who serve with him and people around him. And the problem the political system has is now half the country believe him to be corrupt too.
Starting point is 01:11:51 So now they don't know what to do about it. Hence McCarthy's confusion about whether to support or not support an impeachment inquiry. And like if they ripped it open and he was super corrupt and then got impeached and had to step down, we'd have Kamala Harris as president. And like, is that, are we even better off? we even better off is that yes going through people's heads yeah if it's just if that's you know justice results if that's what justice results in you know that's the reality
Starting point is 01:12:14 of it and i mean just think about an impeachment inquiry i mean they're not you know they're still presuming this to to say that well we don't know if we're going to impeach him or not. I mean, come on, guys. Because justice, it's like, when do you put the brakes on justice? You could rip it open on Kamala Harris's bank records next. You can go into Willie Brown next. You could go into her old text message. How deep do you want to go to take out every new leader
Starting point is 01:12:38 that steps in because of some dumb corruption scandal? You actually, but it's not done though. I want to be very clear. This is not done. If you are actually, like there's a really good chance that russia doesn't invade if it's not for biden's relationship with burisma and the leadership not to mention the state department coup not to mention victoria newland like there's a whole bunch of back history here
Starting point is 01:12:57 that yes there's minor seemingly millions of dollars worth of corruption in terms of what they profited but what does it mean in terms of the outcome for geopolitical dynamics? Like we could end up in World War III because we were led by a corrupt president during this period. Yeah, because you're telling Russia and China, if you compromise our president, we're going to remove him from office or move to remove him. I mean, Burisma was a Russia-leading government entity. What I loved about that 1023, that FBI form that described the head of Burisma's bribe scheme for the Bidens. So the FBI source goes and says, you know, we had the meeting and it was all in Russian. So Burisma was, you know, so between Russia giving them money through the oligarch's wife that was further confirmed last week.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Who is that? What's the wife's name? Maria, what's her face? It was the mayor of Moscow's ex-wife, I believe. Yeah, yeah. So it was like three, you know, Devin Archer essentially confirmed they sent millions of dollars to their companies, all of which they shared. And then Burisma, you have FBI evidence. They gave $10 dollars to the bidens
Starting point is 01:14:05 and so if you're putin to your point claim you're thinking well you know i'm not going to invade ukraine because biden's on the tank and i know he is because we compromised him but certainly that would be a factor don't you think that the country's not stable well dc you know biden can be caught he's compromised he can be talked to you know he knows we know about him but we had documents where during the obama administration uh the ukrainian ambassador was getting an email from her person just before by biden went to ukraine in january of 2021 just before trump came in and uh the russians started trolling him literally trolling him in the newspapers well keep in mind too because the barisma and and the aboutussians started trolling him literally trolling him in the newspapers well keep in mind
Starting point is 01:14:46 too because the barisma and and the about and obama's ambassador said you know was told well this is this is the barisma is the gift that keeps on giving so they knew that the biden issue was compromising our national security vis-a-vis russia and keep in mind too hunter biden was the lead envoy for the u.s to uk Ukraine under Barack Obama's administration in 2014. When that coup happens, that's largely a State Department, Victoria Nuland-led fiasco. So this is a long-running dynamic, and people get caught up on just this one 12-month or 18-month period of history. It's very important that you understand the entire encompassing 20-year period, or better yet, go all the way back to 91 in the USSR and when the wall fell and then the-
Starting point is 01:15:30 Go back to Afghanistan where the CIA is funding the Mujahideen to ruin the Russians from within. Quick shout out to my guy, Scott Horton. He's got a new book called Provoked that's coming out in like, I don't know, sometime. It's amazing. It's an amazing book. That's the whole reason I know about all this history he's been incredible mike flynn was indicted by the justice department general flynn for not registering as a foreign agent because he worked for a turkish non-profit not the turkish government a turkish non-profit closely linked to the government
Starting point is 01:16:00 now there's even more significant and powerful evidence that Joe Biden is an unregistered foreign agent, vis-a-vis the Chinese and the Russians. If it's good or not, if... Trump should have done more. It's like when you look at it, it seems so overwhelming and like, what in the hell, these pieces? But when you look at it in the future, when you look back on it, it will make perfect sense. Well, here's the problem too the reason and i asked him earlier why are they not
Starting point is 01:16:28 pursuing the defunding of all this why are they not pursuing this investigation as they should my opinion is that both sides of the aisle are comparably dirty when it comes to ukraine in particular they they were i mean you have lindsey chris christie yeah chris christie but he said his audience supports his efforts on his his views on on Ukraine and thinks we're not doing enough. Yeah, it's nonsense. I don't know anybody on the GOP side that actually feels that way. But you have Lindsey Graham. You have John McCain that are over in Ukraine in 2018 going next year is the year of offense.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I mean, this is a long running thing, man. And it's both sides of the aisle that were like, they were cha-chinging. You got Mitt Romney, you got Nancy Pelosi. They're all making money off this crap. So if, question for you guys, if the United States pivots and is like, you know, we're going to settle this war, peacetime, we're giving, we're going to sell Eastern Donbass to the Russians for $350 trillion or whatever the hell. It's going to go to the bank.
Starting point is 01:17:21 It's going to pay for reconstruction. The Russians will pay for it. The Russians say yes. If that happens, will they stop there will they go for for turkey will they try and seize istanbul so that they have a trade route into the mediterranean or are we good to go did we just appease hitler for the second time or is this actually peace i think it's over at that point i honestly do that's my honest opinion yeah i, I think if the war settles with the Russians keeping a little bit of Ukraine and Crimea, that will probably, you know, there'll be a tense, you know, a tense peace for a decade. And frankly, it depends on the Western leadership.
Starting point is 01:17:56 I mean, the Russians are, you know, they will push where they think they can push. And if they don't think they can get anywhere, they won't. Right. With everything going on in terms of the weaponization of government, people being arrested, crime, people just running rampant in these cities. At what point, you know, when we look back at history, there are periods where people fled their country because of the turmoil. At what point do you guys think we could reach? Are we already at the point where a sane and sober person says it is not safe to be in this country or are we still a few years away from potentially reaching that point like kristallnacht or something a lot of wealthy
Starting point is 01:18:34 people have already started to split if i understand correct from big cities yeah well and in the u.s no i was going to say in the and the billionaires so it's the upper class are leaving places like new york the billionaires are building bunkers. But I'm thinking about, you know, Kristallnacht, right? World War II era Germany. The night of broken glass. Right. They went around and smashed up all these Jewish businesses. And everyone's on the left, you know, Godwin's Law.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Everyone's always trying to compare everything to Nazi Germany. But you can look at a bunch of other historical examples of mass unrest pre-breakout of revolution or civil war. In the instance of Weimar Germany into Nazi Germany, it wasn't necessarily a civil war. It was just this cultural revolution that took place over the period of several years. And with other countries, it was overt revolution. So when it comes to Nazi Germany, you had people fleeing well before the Nazis rose to power because these people like we could see it happening. In other countries, you had outright civil war and revolution breakout with extreme violence in the streets and people were fleeing. Now, I understand in Weimar Germany, there was violence in the streets.
Starting point is 01:19:36 There were street battles. But I'm wondering what you think about the United States. Will there is it possible that ever comes a time where people say it's not safe to be here anymore? I think it depends on whether the institutions it's going to be a race. Right. The left is trying to destroy the institutions of our republic. Right. And either take them over completely and change them, their their basic character to make them anti-constitutional or post-constitutional. And the question is, will the American voter beat them to it and get them out of power so that same people come back in and restore and reform those institutions?
Starting point is 01:20:15 And is that possible? And you know what? I think it's possible. My view is, imagine if there was a different House speaker in the beginning of the Trump administration other than Ryan. Right. Someone who was more House Freedom caucus-y. Right. Or someone, a different president or a different Republican leader.
Starting point is 01:20:39 To me, what's frustrating and both hopeful at the same time is it doesn't take a lot to get this reform through. But it's so frustrating because it's still not getting done, even though it doesn't take a lot to get this reform through. Well, let me say definitively, yes, there is a point at which that could be the case. For me, the two demarcation points would be either abolition of the Second Amendment broadly. That would be like, got to the second amendment broadly that would be like gotta go you gotta where would you go somewhere where i could not have to deal with the federal government but i mean they are the empire so it's kind of hard to go anywhere and be any better off ultimately but i would still probably leave and then the second one would be uh packing the supreme court
Starting point is 01:21:18 if they if they opt for that that's really like the last line of defense thank god that's the best thing about trump's presidency i've said it a thousand times the supreme court justices he put up there like if it weren't for them i don't think that the the vaccine mandate from biden gets overturned like there's a bunch of things that don't get overturned if it's not for trump's presidency let's let's dig into that you're saying that not even a direct threat to you if the institution is attacked and gun rights are gone and the supreme court is packed that's enough for you to be like we got to get out of here i think so what are you guys saying i don't think there's anywhere to go i think el salvador uh i i don't know the left
Starting point is 01:21:57 left is running things down down south i think that i think if the u.s were to be in a situation where like the u.s falls or whatever like in a woods is where you're going. Like it's, it's head out to the Brockies, get into the mountains and live like the Wolverines. I know a lot of Bitcoin people, my buddy Jethro just moved to El Salvador though. I like,
Starting point is 01:22:17 I know it's, there's a very big tendency to just to believe that America is the freest place on earth. And I think historically, that's true. I'm not so sure it is right now. I'm not so sure. They've really fumbled this technocratic evolution thing. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 01:22:32 It's gone too far. But we got to remember, the concept of uniting states is where it's at. It doesn't have to be here on this continent. It's just a concept. It's an idea of delocalized authority. That can remain, even if some states want to bail or or fail um but i think that the states uniting is the way of the future we'll have probably an earth of states united at some point and then marsh that sounds like a one world government
Starting point is 01:22:56 even the satellite station where people will become sorry elon well it's it's just an extrapolation of liberal democracy or democratic republic but it'll be a global tyranny instead of a local tyranny no thank you that's exactly what we're trying to avoid well they want top-down authority they want a centrally controlled globe i want decentralized controlled globe i mean this is the whole thing about the ai that's what nations provide nations that have sovereign power over themselves provide decentralized authority you can work together as nations but you're not under one global the nation is a step of the of the delocalization so you have you have cities then you have states then you have we'll just go
Starting point is 01:23:36 provinces yeah nations then you have globes planets and then you'll have solar systems and then you'll have galaxies okay and but we gotta we've got to rule ourselves from the local level yeah yeah right and i and i think you know i appreciate your point earlier tim about you know people want to be able to eat but public safety is a pretty big deal security is a factor and i think at the local level these public safety issues eventually um even i mean even the mayor of dc is becoming a law and order mayor yeah uh you know immigration mayors in new york and chicago you know the the problem is that a lot of the big cities have um you know they've they've they've put uh their the democrats have put their political base they don't care they think their votes can be taken for granted and they don't
Starting point is 01:24:22 respond to their concerns about public safety but here here in D.C., you get Democrat politicians who are concerned about their personal safety. Things change in a minute. And so I think the public safety issue could be a significant cutting-edge issue to get back control of the government from the radical extremists that are trying to destroy definitely our institutions sean uh i am or sean uh i forget what his last name is actual justice warrior yeah actual justice where he has that he makes this point that that crime drives poverty but poverty doesn't drive drive crime which i think is is pretty astute like if you have a an area that has a lot of crime then you're not going to have investment you don't have anybody that wants to go in and and as much as people on the left hate gentrification gentrification does help the economies of of of you know areas and stuff so if you've got like the first thing you have to do
Starting point is 01:25:15 is stop the crime you have to get people to stop breaking the law and as long as you've got people as long as your your da's aren't putting people in jail for looting then you're not gonna have oh it's any kind of investment and you're gonna have companies fleeing like what's going on in multiple major cities it's even worse than that phil it's not just but not putting uh you know violent criminals away it's putting away good samaritans yes yes it's like yes it's awful it's the exact inverse of what you should be doing absolutely point and we're all supposed to forget about the poor guy up in new york who yeah you know rescued all those folks on the rest of that homeless well now you got the guys in california who uh 7-eleven workers the guy threatens to kill
Starting point is 01:26:01 them so they they beat him up they beat him beat him up. Now they're being investigated for assault. The dude pulled out some kind of weapon. But they beat on him for a while. And he had a weapon on him. Did he? He pulled out some kind of weapon and threatened them. He brandished a weapon. That's not assault.
Starting point is 01:26:15 You've got to beat him into submission at that point. Or at least stop the threat. And all they had was a stick. If they stopped, does he get up and just start stabbing them or shooting them? Who knows? Apparently, he threatened to shoot these guys. So what can they do other than try to incapacitate them otherwise they'll get shot yeah and if they had a gun shooting them would have been probably been legally easier not in california
Starting point is 01:26:33 yeah well i'd be in the prison already oh for the record actual justice warriors sean fitzgerald fitzgerald that's it yes sean he's great yeah he's really really smart and funny that's awesome uh i'm trying to answer your question tim if there's a point i mean obviously if the bill of rights starts to become overturned i i i think this idea of like institutional limits i'm i'm not as concerned i mean obviously the second amendment goes away it's very very bad but that that that precipitates the point of no that that that is that is before i guess what i mean to say is when we're we're looking at them right now arresting their political opponents
Starting point is 01:27:11 yeah that's the test i mean i i think the trump thing is the big test if they go after really disturbing so so trump is the point where it's like okay it's getting dark this is their political rival now now if they do indict giuliani i gotta say i think that's the point where historically many people said they fled the country because going after an attorney who was advising someone shows that you have a regime you no longer have a government and that they will come for anyone who expresses discontent i already feel that way and you have the state these i'm talking about'm talking about speech. Right, right, right. Giuliani talking to Trump. If they do indict him, then you're next.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Media personalities, commentators, people on Twitter, they'll come after you. They already had you, Tom, in front of a grand jury. Knock on my door at my home. They sent the FBI to the home of the head of the country's largest government watchdog organization. I got to be honest this is that's when when when you when you read history it's retaliation i think we are past the point
Starting point is 01:28:11 i do where you already have families being like well actually i heard something interesting people leaving people who migrated here saying they're going back to their home countries and things like that i met a guy from el salvador and he said he was returning back home because it's safer there than here now i don't know if i really think what you're describing is already going on it's just that the united states being the org being organized the way that it is with multiple states in one federal jurisdiction that's why you see people leaving california and and people that are you know leaving there are people i'm sure leaving red states although i'm sure there's yeah far fewer stupid people but there are people that are you sure, leaving red states, although I'm sure there's far fewer. Stupid, stupid people.
Starting point is 01:28:54 But there are people that are, you know, we're organizing and segregating ourselves by our political opinions more, you know, as every day goes on. There are more and more people that do that. That's why they want to ban cars. Well, you know. And have us all live in 15-minute cities slash gulags. You ain't lying. When we look back at history we ask ourselves like how could it get so bad how did it get so bad in germany how did it go from one point to the other and the issue is that these things happen slowly one step at a time over long periods of time the
Starting point is 01:29:15 american revolution was a 20-year period it's not like the crown said a bunch of nasty things and then we're like you know what we're going to declare independence and a lot of people we we talked about this when did we actually gain our independence? It wasn't until years after 1776. What was it, like 1781 or something like that? Or 83? 1789 is when the Constitution was ratified. 83, I think, was the Treaty of Paris.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Okay. So there's a reason that the republics haven't been around for a long time. Yeah. And we're running into it. I'm less concerned about turning into Germany, Tim, than turning into Canada. Well, my point is point is this fortunately we don't have a king if if they criminally charge giuliani sydney powell or anyone else john eastman yeah john eastman um and jeffrey clark is that his name as well jeffrey clark a justice department attorney who was
Starting point is 01:29:59 giving advice and counsel to the president of the united states and they're calling them co-conspirators and the grand jury is convening if any of these individuals are indicted you are past the point of no return this is where the federal government is not going after its political opponents is bad enough but going after counsel is when the government is expressly stating anyone who speaks against us or tries in any way to form a legal argument against us which is free and fair yeah you will be locked up yeah there's the first amendment the sixth amendment which is the right to counsel i i go back i think to that duke prosecutor who went after those players fraudulently on rape and he was eventually disbarred i don't know if he was criminally
Starting point is 01:30:43 prosecuted or not but i mean if justice prevails here you know alvin bragg gets disbarred. I don't know if he was criminally prosecuted or not. But, I mean, if justice prevails here, you know, Alvin Bragg gets disbarred. Jack Smith gets disbarred and subject to investigation over this abuse of power. And what they're literally accusing Trump of doing, which is, you know, misusing his powers as a government official in a legal way to suppress the civil rights of American citizens. It's literally what Jack Smith did to me. It's what they always do. You know, so, you know, arrest thyself, Jack Smith. They don't care. They don't care that you're saying this.
Starting point is 01:31:16 They don't care that we feel this way. In fact, they're probably laughing saying, hey, guys, we're winning. It's all economics, man. It goes back to the Federal Reserve formation to me, that co-op by John Rockefeller and his buddies. J.P. Morgan was involved.ul warburg was involved they they got on i went to an island jekyll island over christmas when congress wasn't even in session and they like a skeleton crew signed this dumb this dumb ass bank into law this proprietary bank they sold us out in 1913 now the curtain is pulled back but this is started a hundred years ago yep and and the inflation and
Starting point is 01:31:45 from then it's 99 of the value of the dollar so so like i want control from these and i like what you're saying earlier tom we none of the politicians weren't economic people so they didn't understand how to do economics they're like fine yes give it to bankers bankers will know how to handle the economy better than i do because i'm a harvard grad or whatever um but they they failed. And the private bank has gone rogue. And they work out of Switzerland through the Bank for International Settlements.
Starting point is 01:32:10 I don't know. If there is a revolution, it is from the private banks. I don't know how exactly to do that short of like telling everyone, pull your money out of the bank. Well, it's Bitcoin. And give them a date and a time.
Starting point is 01:32:20 A lot of people say it's Bitcoin. But you could crash the banks intentionally. I think of that as economic terrorism personally. And I haven't gone, pointed people down that road. That's one way. But if you're going to remove the system, you need to put something better in place of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:31 I think the result is going to be just a sad shadow, a sad, the United States will be a sad shadow of its former self, where the liberties that our fathers and forefathers, you know, grandfathers, I guess, took for advantage, you know, took for, you know, took forathers you know grandfathers i guess took for advantage you know took for you know took for you know they thought that yeah and and it's not going to be available to us anymore but will it be demonized for the few because what would happen is well
Starting point is 01:32:55 that's what they're doing they're tearing down statues of you know you you know that they're for the radical left they always have to be tearing down something so you know you're never you're never radical enough that's why you always have to be tearing down something. So you're never radical enough. That's why you always have to be deconstructing and raising your consciousness. It's a perpetual process. That's the critical consciousness process. But let me take the inverse of this and just say, I think that ultimately there is a tremendous awakening amongst young men, particularly in this country, as to what they've been up against. And I'm far more hopeful that we have seen the worst days or close to the worst days like we're
Starting point is 01:33:30 nearing the inflection point so i don't think we're without hope i really don't we're gonna go to super chats so if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button smash that like button in memory of roberto jr oh and head over to timcast.com click join us become a member so that you can watch tonight's uncensored members only show which will be at about 10 p.m it's gonna be it's gonna get a little conspiratorial because uh a second body that's right body was found at the arizona state capital and we can only speculate as to what's going on right now and i'll leave it at that you want to watch the members only show i thought you were going to say a second body was found in the chicken coop no no a second body was found in
Starting point is 01:34:07 at the arizona state capitol which is a bit more serious as much as we love roberto jr yes but now we will read your super chats i'm not your buddy guy says how can you coexist with people who at every chance will cheat lie manipulate steal abuse power and do everything to undermine you while also believing your existence is an obstacle to their power you can't and therein lies the great cultural problem i don't know you need to get them to look at what you're looking at and you need to get them to stand behind you and do your right a little bit but so there is a form of unity and metallic bonding and that you need to correct their focus onto something else that you want them to focus on all right joshua 029 says rest in peace
Starting point is 01:34:45 crying emoji and uh chicken head and then says rip young king thank you for the super chats good sir coldy locks production says tim i have to disagree with something you said about small towns earlier you said riding and stuff still happens in small towns the stuff reported in media is the exception not the rule small towns take care of their own they certainly certainly do, but when the George Floyd riots happened, there were riots across all of these small towns and people's lives were destroyed. It happened. There have been small towns where the far left has tried showing up
Starting point is 01:35:13 and you see videos of these dudes pushing them out. Yeah, small town I'm from, there's never any problems like that. I think the ones that do get hit, they get publicized, but for the most part, small town community is where it's at being in a rural exurban community is not going to protect you from the communists no no that's where they're going to go first ask the cabodians how that worked all right okay uh keel that he
Starting point is 01:35:36 says i'm super chatting to ask if cast brew would be putting out a cold brew kit i'm an original timcast member and really appreciate the work the timcast crew is doing and fighting the culture war uh we want to actually do bottled cold brew it's just expensive to do you have to order very very very large sums they have a shelf life i don't know if we could move the the volume we need to justify i think right now if we wanted to do cold brew it'd be like four dollars per can and then it's like what do we sell it for cost just so we can have it plus shipping it's it's it's pretty it's pretty expensive 20 bucks for four of them yes shelf life one year one year yeah so it's like what do we do you have to get the price down you got to order a lot make the can like bronze so you need
Starting point is 01:36:21 to make a year essentially you'll make a year's bet, right? Yep. We need, well, we need, so. A year's bet of sales, right? No. No. We need, nobody, we don't want to sell 10 month old coffee on the verge of expiring. We want to sell coffee that's fresh, ready to go.
Starting point is 01:36:37 And which means we, even if we went for the, we can probably move all this before it expires. And so some people will buy cans that have like two weeks left. Maybe they're fine with it because they're not ordering that much. We get the cost down to three bucks.
Starting point is 01:36:49 We're ordering, what, 100,000? I don't think we can move that much cold brew. It's tough, it's tough. I was looking for a good low acidity coffee and it turns out cold brew is low acidity. Yeah, what you need to do something like this is to get a preexisting contract with a chain of say gas stations or something
Starting point is 01:37:03 where they're like, yeah, we'll order 10,000 cans to stock at all of our gas stations every month or whatever and see how it goes maybe you can get in some supermarkets but okay so get the pre-orders in get the markup already set well you go to a chain of stores they have like 15 supermarkets and they say we'll have you know we'll order 2 000 cans you know every month and it's like oh okay now we can justify larger purchases now we can justify, oh, okay, now we can justify larger purchases. Now we can justify putting it on our website. Now we can justify shipping and the cost and all that.
Starting point is 01:37:29 But for the time being, the amount of sales we do, we cannot justify actual cold brew cans. That's why we just have what we have. But cake cups are coming. Where are we at? We got some more super chats. Anonymous Smith says, as someone who leans more libertarian and a gamer, I was wondering if you've considered sponsoring a group of gamers that stream on rumble tim could also
Starting point is 01:37:49 play horizon on stream i play uh i might consider playing like overwatch or something what about balder's gate 3 i don't play that man i just started it just started it i just it's daunting to go down that road because it's 100 hours you know of my life and I don't want to do it alone. Dude, I'm a level 75 on Diablo. You beast, what class? What's not wizard, what's the other one? Sorcerer? Yeah, sorcerer. Yeah, me too. What's your specialization? Ice shards.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Oh, me too. They're nasty, dude. Let's go. I knew Ian was my Diablo brethren. Yeah, dude. Freeze invulnerable, baby. Ian's your doppelganger. I didn't want to derail because, Yeah, dude. Freezing vulnerable, baby. Ian's your doppelganger. I didn't want to derail because, Tim, I think a streaming show would be badass. Even if it's-
Starting point is 01:38:31 Streaming video games? Yeah, 30 minutes a week. We've been working on it. Yeah, we should kick the gas. There's a bunch of things we're working on. But don't offer to give out PlayStation 5s in the middle of DC or something. We could do a gaming channel where different people play different games on different days and times.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Well, I announced we were doing a skate event in dc with free skateboards a couple hundred people shut up it was a great time we all went home like it was fun we skated imagine that maybe we should do it again actually it's warmer out now and we'll get the crew to go down nice to do it on a warmer day yeah what what are we looking at and it's starting to cool off a little bit let's uh september is the september and october are what's going on this weekend? The 12th? Do I have anything? August is so good. I like August.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Maybe we'll all be in D.C. at Freedom Plaza this weekend. Yeah. Freedom. Freedom Plaza in D.C. is a good skate spot. We'll go there and we'll do some flippity flips and whatever. Waffle Sensei says, I will be buying a bag of Roberto's coffee now to pay my respects. I think Roberto Jr. might be the most famous chicken in the world you made it pal
Starting point is 01:39:28 yeah he had a uh he had a 90 foot tall 95 foot tall billboard in times square with just his big face on it and uh poor guy he had a heart attack and when he when he when he croaks i immediately we're googling what happened, and it's like roosters have heart attacks. It's a thing. I'm serious. I think he might have been the most famous chicken on earth. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Is there a more famous chicken? I don't know. I can't think of any. I don't know of a single other chicken with a name. Yeah, there's like foghorn leghorn, but he ain't real. Roberto is going to take over. So Roberto is at Cocktown. It's like jack dorsey coming back to twitter you know so we got it we had to we're bringing back his dad and roberto is roberto's uh uh what is he a year and a half older than him
Starting point is 01:40:17 you know so so how long do roosters about a decade so roberto jr was was like the equivalent of a guy in his 30s yeah super young they're really young really young you know he was a nice guy and uh i we have no explanation for what happened he's not scared of humans i was wondering if maybe he was lonely because he had been separated because he was spurring it's only been a few days yeah no i like it just i guess it happens but you know i was thinking like maybe he scared, but he grew up around people. He's been carried all the time. He has no issues with people.
Starting point is 01:40:48 He's not scared of anybody. Roberto Jr. is more aggressive. Maybe the water sound when she kicked it on. No, we have rain and running water all the time. In a strange environment with water. He's been here before. He grew up in here. He grew up in here.
Starting point is 01:41:03 All the factors of like... I'll conduct an inquest if there was no one downstairs there was like three there was like there was like five of us he was with kim he was carried by kim he looked totally chill hey no idea it's been way and heavy i want everyone to save their documents when when he started delete no emails i want to do an investigation oh forensic when roberto jr first started crowing he would collapse so he's okay and we thought so he wasn't healthy right yeah oh that's too bad yeah he was he was one of the first chickens that we hatched it was one of the first eggs i think that his mom was laying yeah we had like seven and we all thought they were all hens the first first. Right. That was big boy. That was Roberto.
Starting point is 01:41:46 And then Roberto turned out to be a guy. That was Roberto. Yeah. So then we incubated some of the eggs. His mom had a cancer. So Katerina was Roberto Jr.'s mom and had ovarian or like whatever cancer, chicken cancer. And just one day was dead. And then we got a necropsy and they said very serious cancer.
Starting point is 01:42:03 So, you know, not a healthy rooster unfortunately but we tried we tried good looking rooster little luke's doing good yeah lukester he's yeah he's he's been getting with the ladies you know little luke's gonna be a dad you want that guy but roberto jr does have a bunch of kids so we should give luke his own coffee little luke yeah well roberto jr's maybe you're right Too many chickens. Let's grab some more super chats. Kenny Loggins says, Y'all live right in the Appalachian Trail. Ian, go on a spiritual journey out in the woods.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Just a backpack and some religious texts for a few weeks. I've hiked the entire thing. I'll guide you if you want. Wow. That sounds awesome. I bet that Sir Kenny Loggins did not do the entire thing. Because it actually goes to Scandinavia. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:43 It's called the International Appalachian Trail. The range of mountains actually goes to um scandinavia wow it's called the international appalachian trail the the range of mountains actually goes through the water and then into scotland and scandinavian countries so i am being a bit pedantic but the people who are like we've done the whole thing they actually do international there's an international way to it yeah yeah the the the ridge or whatever that created the mountains keeps going into Europe. It's crazy. Dang. My cousin just walked it, the U.S. side.
Starting point is 01:43:09 You get to Maine, and then you're like, well, I guess I'm done. How long did it take him? I don't know. He walked past us, like not literally, but through here, and I wasn't around. I didn't meet up with him, but I don't know how long it took. You know, I'm just, people are asking about Roberto Jr. I just don't know what could have caused this. Everything had been fairly normal.
Starting point is 01:43:26 You know, he'd been taking care of Chicken City. He was investigating the Clintons. And then, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. Fudum. Aw, Roberto Jr. He was paddling on the paddle. Yeah, he was on a paddle board out in the water. The Obamas, and
Starting point is 01:43:46 We took a blood sample, it disappeared, I don't know what's going on. Alright, we'll grab some more. Raymond Hurd says, shout out to Livingston, Half Life on YouTube. You were made from stars to live a life you have never loved. You were made from scars to live a life to rise above.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Ian. Was that a message for me i thought it was gonna be for the chicken i have no idea that was nice something oh that sounded cool i want to read that the coco nino says tim and gang if you're coming to alaska you need to come to se mountains waterfish glaciers west virginia refuge refugees only happy to help if you need info especially ian he needs to get set straight oh my gosh i'm trying to read old super chats and hearing new ones. And it's so many chats. You know, I noticed about working out and eating more protein.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I feel like I'm dumber, but that might be a good thing. What? I feel like things are hazy and foggy and I'm like trying to pay attention. I think you're just tired. Yeah. Maybe more fatigue. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Fatigue. I was like, am I gonna be the dumb meathead on the show now? Cause you know, when you're, when you eat a lot and you're lifting and stuff, you, you, your blood rushes to your stomach to help digest so that could be it was especially the first week the first week was like fuzzy did you use that blender tumbler i haven't used it yet no it's amazing oh nice what is it called like a volt volt tricks or something bring it in next time so we got these protein shakers that has a little plastic blender on the bottom and so you just mix in your protein drink and then press the button it blends itself while you're like and i do like fruit like blackberries so when all the
Starting point is 01:45:08 seeds fall to the bottom i can give a little spin and mix them all in and then take a sip so i can get all seed at the end you know yeah all right you know what that jazon heitman says it may maybe it's jason tim you talk about the u.s civil war and the french revolution ever read about the franco-prussian war fr France started with Napoleon III as emperor, then went to the Third Republic, then the French Commune all in a year. Scary, too. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize
Starting point is 01:45:32 there was more than one French Revolution. You had the French Revolution, then there was Emperor Napoleon. So, you know. There's a movie. Ridley Scott's doing a movie on Napoleon. Oh, that's going to be awesome. He wasn't short.
Starting point is 01:45:50 That's a myth. Really really he had imperial guards and imperial guards were always chosen to be massive dudes so in these paintings you have napoleon with these really tall guys and like look how short he was when in fact napoleon was of average height it was like british propaganda was he what i've read nine or so i guess right no he's five five people were short back then okay in in so he wasn't short in terms of the population he's short relative to us now right but so he had he had imperial guards that were like six feet tall so in paintings we have a we have an old barnhouse at vredamistan and the ceilings are seven feet you're walking through the doors and like of average height you're like ducking it's crazy yeah there's people in the in like was the average
Starting point is 01:46:22 height like 1900 like five five for a guy yep Yep. Yeah. That's crazy, right? I think it had to do with like the French feet being smaller than like English feet too. Then there was like some whole situation with that too. You're saying that human beings were shorter because we had different words for height? No, I think the measurement was just smaller in English. And so they're like, oh, he's much shorter.
Starting point is 01:46:38 When in reality, there's a different measure. They were just translating it in a way that was fun. I love how British people weigh people by stones. Yeah, yeah. Oh, they still do? Yeah. There's literally nothing that the British do better than Americans. We can even measure things better.
Starting point is 01:46:52 They're just so backwards. What about scones? They do meat pies pretty well. They can congeal blood. They do well. They do. That's pretty gangster. Oh, one stone is 14 pounds.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Yeah. Let's grab some more schweck says john adams defended the british soldiers who opened fire at the boston massacre did the most hated people in massachusetts but adams let let made sure they had a fair trial we have fallen so far we have fallen so far yep i want that that's like superhero quality have you seen john uh ian have you seen the john adams um it was a uh mini series produced by hbo no it's very worth your time i'm not sure where you could get it whether it be on uh yeah i think it's still on it's probably it is so so good paul giamatti is John Adams. Oh, good. And he does. He has an absolutely brilliant performance.
Starting point is 01:47:48 It's very, very, very good. Adams, man. M.T. Pockets says, I'd love to see Tom McDonald on the cast, please. Tom McDonald is an open invite to come on whenever he wants, but he's a busy fella, so he's doing his thing. Who's Tom McDonald? He is a rapper.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Canadian fellow. Yeah, he's got a lot of really great mcdonald he is a rapper he's a good dude yeah he's got a lot of really great music where his songs are about things we like yeah you know and he's independent which is awesome because you really couldn't rap about what he does and be on a label like you just couldn't do people say the same thing about ronnie radke and again it's like he's he's pretty busy yeah callie gilden's off says inflation didn't bring women into the workforce feminism did my college debt is why i'm working i hate it well why'd you go to college it's cultural well the left promotes inflation the way they promoted feminism so same same origin
Starting point is 01:48:37 oh what do we got here one please fda victor papadopoulos says after everything you discussed tonight the corruption and two-tier justice system can any of you give me three good reasons not to back putin and xi jinping to the hilt our leaders are beyond redemption oh i can give you uh some good reasons one you think it's bad here at least joe biden likes living here putin doesn't even own property here as far as well he doesn't he doesn't have to live here. You can count on Joe Biden at least not wanting you vaporized a nuclear hellfire because it would mean his neighborhood and his servants can't give him cheesecake. There's one same for Xi Jinping. That's like the best reason. And I'll give you another good reason, because we want to win in the United States. We want to restore that that, you know, shining city on the hill. We want to make sure
Starting point is 01:49:26 that the rights enshrined by the founding fathers persist. You back them, you're basically throwing the constitution in the toilet. Yeah, you want states' rights. You don't want to back the Russians and the communist Chinese because they don't value states' rights like the way we do. Yeah, when I'm critical towards- They're also not American. Let me just say real quick, when I'm critical towards the US, it is not that I'm saying the CCP or the Russian oligarchy is where I want to be. My point is we are too similar to them, and that's not a good thing. We need to get further away.
Starting point is 01:49:57 We need to differentiate ourselves by focusing on actual capitalism, getting away from ESG and central bank digital currency and surveillance and the Federal Reserve and central banking and inflation and all this other nonsense. I'm trying to not be them. I'm not saying they're good, though. All right, where are we at? Sea Warrior says, can people sue these judges and prosecutors that are attempting to interfere in our elections? People is a big word in this regard um judges typically are immune from lawsuits my understanding prosecutors depending on the outcome of the case can be sued my understanding all right let's read some more but who can sue you know it would be the someone say you're a defendant you you know it's clear
Starting point is 01:50:42 that there was corruption in your prosecution. Yeah. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I don't get why libertarians call out conservatives, whom they conflate with Republicans, when they can't even get voted into any office besides Rand. Oh, Ron and Rand, both fairly libertarian, and they got elected. There are, would you say Thomas Massey's libertarian? For sure. Yeah. I mean, that's the vehicle libertarians run as Republicans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Massey's one of our best guys I mean that's that's the vehicle libertarians run as republicans yeah Massey's one of our our best guys look here's the truth the best conservatives you got are all libertarians so don't don't give me this that's true don't give me this that all the libertarian ideology ain't you ain't getting the elections yeah we just we just put on the mask of the GOP and then we get in there we we uh legislate like Ron Paul and you love us so just be one of us we had it we were joking about a bit earlier about political speed dating and it's like two liberals sit down and one guy's like i love black lives matter and the other liberal woman is like me too and they get up and they walk out holding hands then the conservative sits down another conservative and he's like i think jesus is our lord and savior and she was i completely agree and they get a walk out holding hands and then
Starting point is 01:51:40 the libertarian sit down and one libertarian says i do think we need borders so borders what and they both start yelling at each other about who's the real libertarian. You're not a real libertarian. Exactly. That's that's why none of us reproduce. And I hear it as I thought it was the autism. All right. John H. says, I want to I want to I want to Vivek, vote for Vivek, but Trump needs to win.
Starting point is 01:52:06 So the practice of lawfare ends. Right now it is escalating. They will keep indicting until SCOTUS intervenes. Then Dems will say SCOTUS is illegitimate too. Yeah, but we're talking about a primary. You know, in a primary, I think if Vivek were to win, I'm very confident a lot of our problems are solved. I'm not saying all. I'm not saying everyone. I'm not saying it's revolution overnight solved i'm not saying all i'm not saying everyone
Starting point is 01:52:25 i'm not saying it's revolution overnight i'm not saying vivek's gonna save the world or anything i'm saying he will be effective in many ways massively watch his uh watch his interview with patrick bet david from last week it was a town hall actually the guy is fan he is ready to go to china and xi jinping and put him up trump's gonna win the primary in his seat there's there's one thing i want to say about vivek maybe as opposed to trump like and this is i this is not trying to knock on trump or anything but i do feel like trump went into being the president completely naive about what reality is and i feel like he got railroaded partly because of that naivete i mean there's there's definitely the power
Starting point is 01:53:05 structure that exists is incredibly stacked against the president but the president i think that donald trump was really really naive thinking that yeah thinking that that that people in washington would treat him like a you know like an another a president yeah um but i feel like vivek is aware of what would happen i feel like he's you know he wouldn't be going in now i'm not saying that donald trump would go in not knowing any you know not not realizing that they've got you know his number as well but i also think that donald trump has a problem finding the right people to a point so i think that there's there's just a lot of things about vivek that i that i think are actually better than donald trump and i think the personnel issue is going to be a priority for whoever the republican nominee is and god i hope they win
Starting point is 01:53:49 so whether it be i mean it's likely to be president trump if on the rnc chair still winning i have no faith in them no like the fact that she what's her name ronda ronda whatever yeah like after the after donald trump lost and the 2020 election and she gets the position again, no faith. No faith. Ronna McDaniel. McDaniel, that's it. What an embarrassment. I agree with your assessment as to Trump's pitfalls in his first term.
Starting point is 01:54:17 I think that the best ticket that they could possibly put up would be him with Vivek. And I know I've had Vivek on. I love the guy. And I'm not trying to put him in the second slot, but he would, he fills all of Trump's downfalls, like where he, he put up all these scumbags into every single department. Like the vague is that guy.
Starting point is 01:54:38 He's the guy that, that understands he understands ESG and DEI and all this stuff. He can actually do the things where Trump couldn't figure it out. Vivek could do that. One of the questions that Patrick, that David asked him is like, well, there's a criticism that now that Trump's going in for the second time, he knows about who to appoint where. He's made the mistake before and you don't have any experience, Vivek. So how do you respond to that? And his response was a bit incoherent, I'll say.
Starting point is 01:55:02 I think he, maybe he didn't say it right then and there, but is one of his weaknesses he doesn't know exactly how to avoid the pet of dc but he's so smart and and uh like sensitive to how to be honest i don't know i can't speak to vivek on on personnel issues but he one point he was like you know trump's on his way out kind of he's old he's already the best years for him have been and have gone for vivek they're up and coming and and his future is bright and he wants he needs a better future because he has two young kids they're one and three so a president that needs a better future will create a country that has a better future a president that's on their way out is just angry and pissed is going to turn the country into a country on its way out and that is not what we want you don't want a nominee you don't want a presidential, a vice presidential candidate
Starting point is 01:55:46 who's going to harm the ticket. Other than that, I don't think it matters. So, I mean, it's interesting politically who it is, but in terms of the operations of the White House,
Starting point is 01:55:57 it's not going to make much sense. I think in agreement with Tom, like, I think that, like, just like you said, you don't want someone that hurts the ticket, but otherwise, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I mean, Kamala Harris didn't, you know, you don't want someone that hurts the ticket, but otherwise it doesn't really matter. I mean, Kamala Harris didn't give anything to the Biden ticket. Look, you guys are right historically. I'm just saying that with Trump's experience now, knowing what scumbags were surrounding him, he can actually pair that with the how-to. He can actually just use Vivek as a guy who's a real resource. Kamala Harris isn't capable of doing any of these things. Vivek is a legit, capable, half-billionaire, 35-year-old or whatever. 37. Yeah, 37.
Starting point is 01:56:36 I mean, the dude has crushed it at every single thing he's done. If Trump doesn't utilize him, that would be a mistake. He's also a pharmaceutical CEOo or was before he started so he knows the entire pharmaceutical industry inside and out he knows about how they're how they're skimming off the top what they're doing wrong and he wants revenge oh dude he's ready yeah his story of how he got started we talked about how he wrote the book woke activists came for him got board members to quit from his company started attacking him even though he was giving into what they wanted yeah they wanted him to write a letter he said okay i'll write the letter said the letter wasn't good enough he's like what do you want me to do people started
Starting point is 01:57:10 resigning attacking him and then he was just like i'm dealing with this when i was i'm like i like that yeah when i was first deep diving esg when i had just started my show woke ink by vivek was one of the the first books i read on it that really like set me on this journey of understanding the high finance, like Marxist takeover of our economy. Vivek played that role. This was long before the presidential campaign was even a glimmer in his eye. I'm very impressed with the guy. I really am. I'm wondering, should we give Roberto Jr. a Viking funeral? We have a pond at Freedomistan. it's decently large and we can make a little a little viking boat yeah dude and then put them on it put some and then we'll get a very very small bow and arrow and we'll just go right into it oh that's nice and then do you i'll be there
Starting point is 01:57:56 do you eat the chickens we have not yet my brother doesn't want to eat them i'm all for eating you know i'm just like we got too many let's eat them but nobody wants to eat them so uh what we may do is we're gonna i think we're gonna auction off some of them i'm not suggesting you cook the bird by the way oh i'm not we're not gonna eat them raw tom what's wrong with you man what do you do what do you want the husband so for his age uh he's probably he probably tastes very good chicken sushi but he's a rooster so roosters are very tough and typically to have like rooster. So roosters are very tough. And typically to have like rooster, you want to boil them in a pressure cooker or something
Starting point is 01:58:29 because they're tough, manly meat. However, considering the way he died, You don't want to eat them. Yeah, no, I think the heart attack would cause like, what is it? You don't want animals that have adrenaline rushes or whatever like that. Oh, adrenochrome.
Starting point is 01:58:43 No, like when you're hunting deer, for instance. True, oxidized adrenaline. You don't want the deer to be adrenaline rushes or whatever like that oh trinocrine no like when you're hunting deer for instance oxidized you don't want the deer to be adrenaline rush it's the shirt it's cortisol i think a lot of it's cortisol same idea um so i was out there eating chicken in front of the chickens do you guys ever do that just eat a piece of chicken while you're looking at them it's crazy sorry i've been reading q drops all day bro they eat each other if a chicken dies in the coop the other chickens might will eat it yeah they're brutal yeah they're like little dinosaurs people like people say you know i just want a serious note you know these folks they get
Starting point is 01:59:16 involved in conspiracy we sell through government funding the fetal parts of aborted babies there's a market for it so you So they get focused on that. Well, they're selling thymuses and skulls of aborted unborn human beings. Unreal. And so that's my key thing with so-called conspiracy theories. The truth is often worse
Starting point is 01:59:39 than what they are distracted by. It's a misdirect. I got to read this. Jason Hutchinson, I didn't see the super chat until just now, but he sent it a half an hour ago. He said, to fund a Viking funeral
Starting point is 01:59:48 for the noble rooster. Send a super chat. Heck yeah. Well, I was thinking about it because I'm all about Viking funeral. Yep. And we have a pond at Freedomistan that it's big enough
Starting point is 01:59:56 to where we could easily put them on a little boat and just, you know. Like a little wooden raft with like a couple of two liters filled with some flammable material. I wouldn't want to burn plastic. Yeah. I would want to... Like a little wooden raft with a couple of two liters filled with some flammable material? I wouldn't want to burn plastic. I would want to actually carve a little boat.
Starting point is 02:00:08 Can we put some flammable material in wood that will catch and really create a nice... Can we put a propane tank right underneath it? The explosive end of... We don't want the fire to spread outside of the pond. All you need, you just get a couple little charcoals. Smell delicious. On each end.
Starting point is 02:00:30 People are going to drive by and be driving by you guys having a barbecue viking funeral for our rooster we won't eat our chickens but we will put them on fires roberto jr was hatched and raised by me and my girlfriend allison and we raised them here in the house and we would hold him and he had lived in he was in a little cage with his sisters and then once they got decently big we trance them outside and let them live amongst their own kind was he he was always super chill and really relaxed around people he was really nice yeah he was great was he the one was he down in chicken city but in like a little room or was he in another area he was in chicken city he was in a little room the way he screams i did it before i think that's him that's gonna be rough i love that it was just like it would start strong and then the last thing i want to say
Starting point is 02:01:11 is just to mention that point where so so when this happens and we're trying to resuscitate him i walk back into the house and then i hear a bunch of weird squawking and then i came out and everyone's standing there and the chickens lined up and we're like yelling and we were there i was like what was that like the chickens all lined up looked over it was spontaneous as all get out it was amazing it was really it was really like touching and i don't even know roberto that well you know there were a bunch of humans standing out there so maybe that's why but maybe they sensed no we go out there all the time but it was like it was like a 10 minute lag time before they just were like all right now's the time it was like his spirit was leaving
Starting point is 02:01:44 and they're like... I thought he was alive still, man. I had hope. I gotta not do that. We took an O2 canister and Kim put it in his beak and held it tight and pumped air into his lungs.
Starting point is 02:01:53 They tried everything. But his heart was done. I mean, did you get a video of doing that? No, no. We were more concerned with trying to save him and his doodle, his waddle was changing purple and we tried. It was a very somber moment. All right, everybody, if you haven't already,, you know, his doodle, his waddle was changing purple and we tried. It was a very somber moment.
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