Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #838 Maui Fire Sparks Conspiracy About Direct Energy Weapon Starting Fire w/Paul Ingrassia
Episode Date: August 12, 2023Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil, & Serge join Paul Ingrassia to discuss the potential impact of government laser weapons, a viral anti-marriage Tiktok that could be Chinese propaganda, the former Capitol Pol...ice Chief during Jan.6 saying the request for National Guard was denied, and how the political left & right have seemingly switched over the last few years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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As many of you are aware, there were devastating fires in Maui.
And they're saying it may have been caused by electrical lines.
Not completely sure.
Many people lost their lives, so we hope everybody's safe.
Hearing from a lot of people that they have friends and family they've still not heard
from, so again, I hope everybody's going to be okay.
And also hearing that the devastation is worse than even we realize.
But from this, we had a conversation last night about this video that went viral earlier
this year of lasers being fired from satellites over Hawaii. And we talked about there's a conspiracy conspiracy theory going around.
Well, now there's a darker and more pervasive conspiracy theory. I should say it's spreading
a conversation about direct energy weapons. Now, there's a lot of a lot of videos that are
completely fake that are going around. But I think it's an interesting conversation to talk
about the future of warfare, because at the same time, there's massive flooding happening in China.
The reality is fires probably started from natural causes because fires happens all the time.
Great Chicago fire happened.
Cow kicked over a lantern or whatever it is you want to believe.
And floods happened because there's heavy rain, probably.
But I do think it's important to consider that we know for a fact lasers are fired from satellites.
And there's a question of whether or not they're powerful enough to cause any damage, whether accidentally or otherwise. And that brings us into the topic
of World War Three and the future of weapons. And there's an interesting discussion ever on there.
We also have this update from Tucker Carlson doing the interview with the former chief of
police for the Capitol Police, revealing that he was barred from bringing in the National Guard,
which, of course, just reignites the scandal we've long since already known about that it appears they wanted to happen.
They had police stand down.
Police were waving people in.
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lot more is Paul Ingrassia. Thank you very much, Tim. I really appreciate it. Just by way of
introduction, I write a sub stack. Many of you may know me on Twitter. I've been promoting President
Trump for quite a while now, and he seems to really like my writings. He's been retruthing a lot of what I put out there.
And also, I'm a law clerk with the McBride Law Firm, and currently he represents a number of high-profile January 6th defendants,
as well as Andrew and Tristan Tate in their civil lawsuit out of Florida.
That's going to be interesting.
We'll definitely want to talk about all that stuff.
We also have Robbie Mann.
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I spread love, positivity.
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But I'm on my best behavior tonight. He's going to be on his best behavior but uh we invited to come hang out
because we've been hanging out this past week so good to have you robbie thanks for hanging out
hey bro thanks for having me it's a pleasure to be here we got phil labonte i am phil labonte i
am phil that remains on twitter and uh i am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary
and i'm hannah clare brimlaw i'm a TimCast.com. I'm so glad to be here.
Serge is here too.
I am here filling in for Kellen.
I don't know where he is.
Probably drank Bud Light last night.
We'll see.
Anyway.
Oh, geez.
Let's take it away, Tim.
Let's just jump to this first story.
Now, I know there are many other stories we can talk about, but it's Friday, and I want
to have a good time, and I want to talk about things that I think are interesting.
And so while there is stuff about January 6th and Hunter Biden's getting his plea deal revoked, I'm kind of just like, man, we've talked about those ad nauseum.
And now we've got this big story out of Maui. And seriously, I hope everybody's OK. These photos
are absolutely devastating. And the likelihood of this fire is something like a cow kicking over a
lantern. I imagine wildfires happen. I think right now they're saying they believe it was related to
power lines, which makes the most sense. However, we discussed this quite a bit, the idea of directed energy weapons. And while I don't think it is the most plausible thing to attribute, there are people posting these fake photos that look really silly with like, it looks like a missile hitting Maui. A laser would never look like that. If they are, they're probably infrared or invisible in whatever way.
And they're going to start fires.
You won't even know that they were started by this.
But this is the story we have from Newsweek.
Hawaii wildfires spark conspiracy theory about directed energy weapons.
The devastating wildfires in Hawaii have brought a new conspiracy theory from the climate change deniers who suggest the destruction was orchestrated by the federal government's directed energy weapons. Social media users are circulating photos of light beams and laser beams
that they claim were taken from Hawaii before this week's deadly fires
burned down historic landmarks and killed at least 55 on the island of Maui.
Now, I have no idea why anyone would be like,
our own government did this.
But we do have this story we talked about the other day.
Chinese satellite lasers recorded over Hawaii.
So we know this.
I don't know if this video's got it.
There you go.
You may have seen this video went viral a while ago.
We brought it up last night a little bit.
Yes, lasers were fired.
And many experts were saying that it could have been pollution tracking or something
that effect.
But at the same time, we're getting news about these massive floods in China.
Once again, in all likelihood, the floods are probably caused by rain
because rain caused flooding.
And it's probably a natural occurrence.
Now you're going to hear a lot of political ideologues
say something like climate change or whatever.
And, you know, sure, fine, whatever.
But this got me thinking about
the current state of the world.
You know, China and the US are not on very great terms.
We've got a real risk of an invasion of Taiwan.
We've got a warfare happening obviously in in europe russia
right now is concerned nato is going to invade ukraine occupy and so i started thinking about
what's world war three going to hold and could it possibly be that you know as we know satellites
have these lasers at least for scanning and research purposes lidar it's called uh is it
possible they have any kind of weaponization or uh you know infrared heat lasers that can actually start fires or cause real damage?
Yeah.
It's crazy theory time. Have fun.
I mean, I think it's definitely plausible here.
I mean, I just want to clarify maybe directly to energy weapons.
I guess you're having you have in mind the same exact sort of laser weapons that the Chinese use.
Ultimately, we have to use them or i don't know if
they do use them or we know that we know that they have set lasers on satellites right and that
could be a low power laser for collecting data lidar and we know the u.s has developed infrared
laser weapons because they've published this where they've blown up drones out of the sky
and testing these these lasers so the question is is it possible to have any kind of weapon
so powerful could start a fire from long range obviously people think the canadian wildfires
were were started by either like antifa which i think is weird i think it was lightning strikes
to be really honest but it gets me thinking about the future of warfare and if this was
warfare like china having space weapons or something like that. Trump launching the Space Force.
Clearly, they're entertaining these possibilities.
What can we – like what do you guys think World War III is going to look like?
We never talk about this kind of stuff.
We talk about nukes.
We talk about cyber warfare.
We talk about PR manipulation.
But we don't talk about things outside of that realm.
I mean it's still – that's because like for the the most part these type of i like this type of weapon
if it were a real weapon like that kind of stuff is something that i mean everybody here is
extremely unfamiliar with obviously if it's cutting edge technology that has no you know
no exposure to the population like how much can you pontificate about it maybe it's a laser sick you know i don't know i don't know anything about lasers i could be i you know it's like i
know a little more about uh you know if it was missiles or or you know technology that right
this is currently look at this kind of the point why i thought it was interesting to talk about
because i kind of feel like i said this before we sit here in this room and we talk about all
the stuff and the security agents and intelligence agencies are laughing how wrong we are about everything.
Right.
I mean, I know that there's definitely, you know, there was a reason as much as people like to meme on Trump about Space Force and stuff like it is legitimate.
You've got multiple companies that now that are delivering private satellites into low Earth orbit.
That means that the technology is going to start really disseminating to other countries,
and other states are going to have the ability to get into space and actually do things,
whether it be monitoring or whether it be targeting with laser and stuff like that i mean so it's a nest it's a necessity for the future
but i mean because again because it's something that we're all so unfamiliar with talking about
or at least me talking about it it's like man star wars is was cool i think every cartoon villain
builds a laser right like we were always on this path. This was always possible.
Ronald Reagan did that shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think part of it is,
it is hard to know the bounds of technology
that you have so little information about.
And I, for one, am not an engineer.
I don't know anything about this.
But it wouldn't surprise me if there were,
you know, I'm never surprised
by advanced surveillance technology and i don't
know why lasers wouldn't be considered in a similar similar sphere i i think the idea that
you would be able to launch far attacks with as much stealth as possible without having to deploy
ships and all kinds of stuff that's probably ideal for any superpower in the world uh the question
is like do we also have lasers well i mean we i mean i have lasers on my guns
low orbit ion cannons you know but but yeah like low orbit lasers for targeting and stuff like that
that's stuff that's pretty normal too i mean literally like it's it's stuff that goes on
small arms nowadays you know high you can have a really high power laser that like will start fire
i don't think it's start a fire burn someone's eyeballs out and it's infrared too and so that's part of the problem is it's infrared so you can't
see it well the real question is what is the who originated these lasers is it u.s government is
it chinese china is it someone else um you had the story a few weeks or a few months ago now about
the chinese spy balloons i don't know if we ever got to the bottom of where they originated and
whether that was a psyop or something.
Don't worry about that.
Right around that same time is when the
green lasers were actually over Hawaii
as well, right, Tim?
Was it this scene?
The green lasers over Hawaii was in February,
January.
So it was right around the same time as the balloon?
But they had a bunch of balloons apparently
flying over the U.S.
Look, man, whatever ends up happening, we don't know what it is they're building and what they're going to use when it comes to physical conflict.
Dazzlers are the lasers that they use.
I think they use these in Afghanistan and Iraq.
They work.
Yeah, and I think those are green lasers.
I'm not sure.
And what they would do is they would point it at your eyes and press a button and then
it blinds you temporarily.
It's like so bright.
The laser is going to your eye.
It can cause permanent damage, too.
So those are those are actually relatively common.
Yeah.
Burning out someone's eyes, you know, whatever.
But actually, you can buy lasers off the Internet that can start fires.
Like I said, well, well, I don't have anything that can start fires, but I've got multiple
I.R. lasers and stuff like that that go on guns and stuff.
So you can get them low power that are civilian legal.
The funny thing is the Food and Drug Administration is the actual administration that regulates lasers.
Wait, what? Really?
Yep.
The FDA?
The FDA.
That's pretty sketchy at all.
I forget why um but it had yeah because they're not they're not
um regulated under uh under anything for yeah the technology weapons or anything we never know as
us minions we don't know what the certain government what are what the militaries will
have right they have they could have weapons they're not going to tell the public about it
so they can use it as warfare that you'll never suspect and then they tell you they tell you a conspiracy theorist when you're like hey man i
kind of think that they may be experimenting with this stuff right if you're talking about small
arms i mean you've got a pretty good idea about what what capabilities there are like generally
because even even small arm stuff they don't they don't go to raytheon or or people with a lot of
uh clearances and stuff
when you're dealing with guns.
It takes getting into high-tech stuff like targeting systems, missile systems, and stuff
like that, or any kind of night vision systems or thermal systems and stuff like that.
That stuff will be all ITAR stuff, which is like International Trade in Arms regulated
and stuff.
Or robotics would be things but now
they're not like oh you can't know about our new rifle like all that stuff as soon as they develop
new rifle or new rounds that stuff's making you know that stuff's on the internet and dudes are
talking about it and debating on whether it's a good well you've got you know people who are in
the military are going to be commissioned or given these things or whatever so you can't keep those
things from the public because a guy's going to have it
and be like, we just use these particular rounds.
The stuff that'd be
top secret stuff is DARPA and
stuff they're doing at MIT. Satellite weapons.
And then Trump launches, he creates
the Space Force. Exactly.
So that's why I'm kind of like, yo, I'm looking at this
like, hey man. The other side
of the story though is why are these fires so
bad and why are they happening so frequently?
I mean, this is like unprecedented to see Hawaii now look like it was hit by an atomic bomb.
I mean, this is the worst Hawaii's looked since like Pearl Harbor.
There was a, you know, the Canadian wildfires a few weeks ago.
New York City, it went all the way down to D.C.
The entire sky was red. It looked
like soot, ashes covered
the entire
city skyline. So this was like the worst
it looked since 9-11. So why
are these fires happening so frequently?
What's the origin of this? Is this
just incompetence? Is this an indictment
of the Biden administration?
I know the fires happened.
We've never seen them at this level of magnitude at least with the one in hawaii there was there's a hurricane
out in the but they were they were seeing hurricane force winds right but then there was no rain but
there was no rain right with the canadian wildfires one of the the theories i'd always heard was that
because uh canada has embraced kind of progressive environmentalism there's no force management
right that's a perfect storm of policies that they think are they're selling to you as good
that are not actually good my question would be as the average person should you bring back the
bomb shelter because obviously you're not getting any information how would you prepare your
community or your family for technology we don't know about and they're not going to tell you about
i don't know i'm just saying bombs come back into vogue i've never experienced that the the smog from the canadian wildfires
that was the first time in my lifetime i've ever experienced like that but a lot of people say
like up in montana that stuff kind of happens often so was it just a freak accident that all
these fires happen and then we on the east coast experience this unbreathable air for
i mean part of it too was that halifax which which is above Maine, had its worst wildfire in, I think, its history ever.
And I've heard stories that there were people that think they were set by environmentalists.
I've heard that too, but I—
If you look at the lightning maps, you can see all the lightning in the area.
So it's kind of like, I mean, you can believe it was leftist extremists or whatever but also lightning starts
wildfires yeah i was gonna say i think it's leftists that are in their own government that
are not actually taking the steps to manage the forest and that's why it's across the entire
country like my canadian family that lives in british columbia every couple years there will
be smoke you can't see you know some of the islands things like that but it's not pouring
into the u.s at that level i want to talk about another conspiracy
theory you guys ready for this one let's go we got this tweet from jack posobic did someone film
a chinese girl and ai filter her white to make this video that's trending all over tiktok i want
to play this video for you guys you may have seen it and maybe i shouldn't zoom in like that we can
we can get you more of the video let me play this video for you well we don't need any of the
sound it's just a song.
So, for those that are just listening, you have this young
white girl looking at a wedding ring.
And every time she puts her finger
through it, she gets a vision of her being
a housewife and being miserable.
And she hates it, and then she takes the ring off, and she
scurries away.
So there it is again. She puts her finger in, and then she's washing dishes.
Then she puts her finger in, and then she's folding laundry.
Now, Jack Posobiec is saying, did they put it on a Chinese girl?
Why?
Well, first, if you look at, if you pause in some of the clips, you can see, let me see, here on this shirt, the writing appears to be Chinese.
There's a couple different instances where the writing appears to be Chinese.
And in fact, behind her, it looks like there are Chinese people.
And the reason why the conspiracy theory here, I believe most people are saying, I don't know about an AI filter.
You need to do that.
You can just get a white person who lives in China.
But the argument is they are trying to attack family values.
They're trying to attack marriage and the family in the West.
And this is on TikTok.
TikTok is not in China.
They have their own version of TikTok.
This is another component of, if your kids are on TikTok, they're being indoctrinated
with content that tells them to hate being in a family, not wanting to be a mother.
And this is exactly it.
But this content appears to have originated in China.
Right.
And this just goes against what you were saying before about how World War III would be fought. If you're dealing with China, you're dealing with
the United States, you're dealing with a country that's trying to undermine our own values while
also obviously being made perhaps light years ahead of us in terms of the technology that they
have. So this is just another front on the information warfare that we're seeing between China and the United States
and undermining our own values, undermining what it means to be a woman, obviously.
Attacking the family.
Attacking the family, really. Getting to the core of it.
Like, I'm miserable. They make her look like she hates it. She's cleaning things. She hates having
kids.
Right. I think it's sad that they're taking this moment like she's getting an engagement ring,
right? That's supposed to be exciting. You're with someone you love. And instead, it's sad that they're taking this moment like she's getting an engagement ring right that's supposed to be exciting you're with someone you love and instead it's like if you take this
you're basically getting handcuffed to a life that you'll hate that's just so cruel to take
something that's actually supposed to be nice yeah i know i think part of it too is making it seem
like they're not showing you the other side of this like she wants to be what alone and still
cleaning her house like some of these things you do anyways
you would rather do them what miserably i don't really understand what their counter-argument is
i mean i'm interested in knowing whether this is actually a real actor or ai i mean i don't think
it's ai you don't think it very well could be i mean ai is getting crazy it is i think this is a
pretty face change i don't think it's even a face change it's like the hair i mean you literally just look
she she may be eastern european let's let's let's talk about how this refugee from from war comes
they say hey come to china we'll take care of you or quite literally there are white people who live
in china they could just be like hey you want to do this the crazy thing about this is you need to
consider this is a heavy production how many let's see how many costumes there are one two let's see three that's we saw that one four
four costumes so far it's high budget looking at the ring decent i mean not super high budget but
uh she's got five who made it looks like who made this again funny vlog 89 six costumes and a and a
pregnant belly and so it looks like six costumes in total uh on
on what appears to be probably six different sets that this propaganda is i think this is a component
of fifth generational warfare the conspiracy there i suppose is that china is trying to attack our
rip us apart from the inside because there is a real concern that we're going to war at some point and they want us off off base, falling over, et cetera.
Plus, they sense we're weak. I mean, we're not projecting strength right now on the international stage with Biden.
So, yeah, it's it's right up their alley. It's it's I mean, you would expect them to do something like this.
You'd expect them to do more of this, given how weak we are currently as a country um but you know the thing is even if
it's not ai even if this isn't you know a chinese production it's still incredibly sad that our
culture is now villainizing marriage on their own right like we maybe it started maybe some
influence of like anti-family uh propaganda came from somewhere else but if it was just a regular
girl who made this on her own like that's still not a great sign i know it goes to show the scope of the psyoping and how many people are
buying into this she takes the wedding ring off and it's like nope and it's like damn
like i'm i'm the last guy like i'm not in any way like a conservative when it comes like or
a puritan kind of person like it was really cool guys i'm as not it has nothing to do with
being cool it has to do with like not talking smack and then people being like well yeah but
what about when you were a drunk moron 10 years ago that's more what it is i'm covering my butt
um but like you know your society is based on like all societies are based on families first it's okay to have like a different lifestyle
and not not want to have a a traditional lifestyle but your society absolutely should
promote traditional lifestyles there's nothing wrong with with being like yo men and women
should get married and have kids because that's how we continue our society.
And as much as there's a lot of people out there
that are screaming about the overpopulation
and worries about climate change and stuff,
if I understand correctly,
the fact that so many societies are getting so old now,
like China and the US is going to be a pretty old society.
And you're having that happen throughout Europe.
The birth rates are so low that we don't have to worry about population or overpopulation.
There's going to be a population collapse coming.
I've been listening to a lot of videos and there are people that are talking about by the end of the century, the world global population could be cut in half.
And that means that's
fewer people that are getting fed properly that means fewer people that are working on
like innovations and working on on you know things that'll help progress society and make society
make life better for people so the the idea that we have to limit how many people we have being born or that we shouldn't
support uh or we shouldn't uh encourage families and stuff that's that's ridiculous and it's
anti-human in my opinion well and i think part of what she's objecting to right that like when you
get married you may have to take care of your house or you may have children that have needs
like i don't think it's actually wrong to acknowledge that some of those aspects of life
are probably hard and you're lonely if you're a young mom at times.
Like there are things that we can acknowledge being a sacrifice that are still worth it.
And you're saying, you know, we have aging populations, but they aren't reproducing children.
So she's saying, oh, I don't want to get married and take care of a house and kids.
Like she's definitely not going to want to take care of her aging parents, right?
Like we are breeding a culture that says my needs and my wants in the moment are more important than anything else. And the idea that
I may have to at times do things I don't want to is completely repugnant to me.
All right. And that's why birth rates are at all time lows across the West. I mean,
in the United States, we're obviously having to replace our native born population with people
from the third world crossing the mexican border so you
know the bottom line is you know you know you you're not going to have a society that can't
reproduce that can't replace itself they they try really hard with this uh idea of social
was it social constructionism constructivism phil you know is it constructivism or social
social constructions yeah so like the idea that that human beings make up most of the things that we do yeah blank slates yeah they're and and so
what they do is they try to push on guys stop being like a guy and on girls start being like a
guy and this results in less families so when they it's funny when they talk about the population
collapse that's coming there was this uh viral story which was really interesting there was a a defense contractor put together this document that
said in a few years there would be something like 30 of the global population would be reduced or
some ridiculous number and then they deleted it and got rid of it and everyone was like why did
they why did they publish that what is that all about some people thought it was talking about
war it may just be that not necessarily in the next couple of years, but the next couple of generations are going to have dramatically less people.
I mean, like the birth rates are dropping rapidly over time.
What I think we end up seeing is in response to this, you can create social pressures that stop people from getting married, finding girlfriends, finding boyfriends, having kids.
But the desires within people don't change. you end up with women who are severely depressed
probably because what do women want there's probably internal feelings to them that are
family oriented like just men have the same thing but they're they're told basically to suppress
that like these videos like don't get married don't have a family she's she's got a baby and
she's looking miserable like having a kid is bad but people are rejecting this what we end up seeing now is we got 12th grade uh boys
i guess once you get 12 you're about to be a man and they're becoming overwhelmingly conservative
you get the rise of personalities like andrew tate obviously promoting masculinity jordan peterson
because no matter what they try to do to suppress it you can't rip that out of a human being
seems like an indoctrination video.
We should be promoting having a family.
That should be the flex.
Yes, absolutely.
And being feminine.
And this is promoting being masculine.
Someone should make an inverse video of this where it's like a depressed looking woman.
And she goes for a beer.
And then when she drinks it, it shows her just like absolutely miserable at home with like some cats.
And then she drops,
she puts it,
she puts it down and then she looks over and there's a ring and she puts her
finger on it.
She was like her smiling with a kid and they're laughing and they're popping
champagne and all that good family stuff.
There was a reason why like mommy vloggers,
lifestyle vloggers of like young Mormon women who typically get married,
you know,
much younger than the average American were so popular. They led that industry for a long time. vloggers lifestyle vloggers of like young mormon women who typically get married you know much
younger than the average american were so popular they led that industry for a long time it's because
that's actually what's aspirational to a lot of women right they they want family they want to
feel like they are beloved and that they are beautiful and that they have an important role
in life that predominantly for most women is at home and i don't think that's bad i think that's
why you have to have videos like this that are like, well, when you're married,
you have to clean and that's bad.
Like, get over yourself.
I would hope more and more people
are beginning to wake up and see these videos
and see it as absurd for what it is
and see it more as parody than something
that they're actually subscribing to and believing.
I know there was a recent study
that came out this past week
showing that more and more young people,
especially people under the age of 18, men are identifying as conservative than ever before.
Although on the other side of the spectrum, more women are self-identified as liberal.
But I think that'll change.
I think the women are going to be pulled towards the men.
It seems like the propaganda is having quite an effect, though, on women, on young women.
And it's because I think women are more uh susceptible to social pressures than absolutely but that also means that if men are more object-oriented and
women are more subject-oriented men wanting goals and missions still of course wanting girlfriends
if these young women want to get relationships it's going to have to be them going to the guys
and then accepting the guys as they are which is conservative values and that's why i think we see women become more conservative when they get married
some say there's no coral it's not it's correlation is not causation and that
conservative women are more likely to get married that's why you see married women are conservative
but i actually think we've gone over this before there is data showing that when women pre-marriage
they're expressing liberal things then they get married then later on they're
expressing more conservative things probably because their life changed they made some
realizations they've experienced things i think that also will lend itself to these young liberal
women they're not going to want to be single they're going to want to have relationships
and these young guys are focused on their mission and their goals they're watching their meme videos
they're watching their andrew tate j Jordan Peterson. They're looking at Trump.
And so these young women are going to have to be like,
well, I can go and insult him and tell him no,
but he's going to be like, I got no time for this.
I'm busy.
Or they're going to have to come around
to the guy's point of view
as they seem to do traditionally.
Right.
I mean, from a political perspective,
the society is basically a compilation
of a bunch of families.
So, you know, if you can't preserve the family,
if you can't build up the family,
your society is going to collapse within a generation,
which is what we're seeing.
So, you know, from a policy standpoint,
this should concern, you know, if our lawmakers,
if our ruling class was truly concerned
about the future of the country,
obviously this would be a first-order political issue
that they'd be trying to resolve.
Obviously, we're far beyond that point.
But, you know, at some point, we're going to have to fix the problem.
Otherwise, we're no longer going to have a country, which basically on the precipice right now.
I think that's a reality.
And I think a component of what's causing the inner conflict in the U.S. may be our foreign enemies.
It's been a meme.
They said Trump was working for the Russians.
That's nonsense.
But there is discussion about Russia and China sowing discontent on our social media we have
the story from the post-millennial we're going to go right to it we we held off as long as we could
former capitol police chief reveals he was prevented from bringing in national guard on
january 6th due to optics i don't like the optics of the national guard on capitol hill
capitol hill so this is uh tucker carl Carlson did an interview with Capitol Police Chief, former Capitol Police Chief Stephen Sund, who said that basically they had intelligence.
He was calling for National Guard on that day and they denied him across the board.
I think there's more than enough evidence to show they like at the very least, I think it's definitive to say they were completely negligent
donald trump of course wanted more security they said no the media then lies and they're like no
no nancy pelosi and and and mayor bowser nothing to do with this and now we're hearing from the
police chief himself he wanted more security and was denied it they there's no way they did not
know this was coming no absolutely not i, as we've seen with all the developments
that have come out with Ray Epps and, you know, the fact of the matter was that this was pre-planned.
A lot of federal agents were interspersed within the crowd. It wasn't just Ray Epps.
And this was being planned for at least months in advance. And the federal government was basically
co-opting the people who showed up there peacefully protesting on Capitol grounds, basically as agents, as goading them into trying to commit violence and inciting, you know, ins, the George Floyd riots, which caused billions of damages, looting, arson.
This was nonstop being broadcast in televisions across the country, CNN having mostly peaceful protests as the church across the street from the White House was being burned down.
Obviously, we saw it with the Kavanaugh protesters as well,
storming the Supreme Court.
And obviously, that was excused.
So there's so much tension, so much buildup
for months and months and months.
And obviously...
To what end?
To what end?
Because if you look at this, any sane person says,
the actions taken by the federal government,
by Milley, by Pelosi, by theosi by the democrats the indictments against trump
serve only to destroy this country right they say that trump is a threat to democracy and all of
that stuff but indicting your chief political opponent is literally just sticking a stake in
the heart of the nation you are you are you are destroying it actively right so we're supposed
to believe that trump's the threat of democracy meanwhile joe biden told merrick garland to indict trump new york times reported that they're they're
ripping this country to shreds right and then you learn that uh joe biden had some meetings with
like some uh russian oligarchs and uh what is it a wealthy kazakh businessman and then the next day
hunter biden gets this this very generous deposit,
which was the exact amount needed to buy a very nice car. So it's on the surface,
unless they come out and claim otherwise, the preponderance of evidence suggests that Joe
Biden is heavily compromised and is actively seeking to rip this country apart to benefit
himself. And then we are all going to suffer for it. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. And I think evidence for the fact that this was planned in advance by the deep state,
by our feds, was in the fact that they called it an insurrection from the get-go.
I mean, the term insurrection obviously comes from the Constitution.
I mean, this is obviously a seditious conspiracy against the United States government.
And the fact that they wanted to label it as an insurrection from the beginning got that,
you know, sort of in the public consciousness, in the public mind, people would talk about it.
Obviously, the mainstream media would go about it with their narrative, would go crazy with it.
And then that basically ultimately set up these later indictments, these, you know,
groundless indictments by Jack Smith, because,
you know, he could basically retrofit that, that label that legal term, you know, as a matter of, you know, alleging this against Donald Trump and the people who showed up there on January 6. So,
you know, I think everyone could see it for what it is at this point. I think,
obviously, Trump supporters supporters millions of conservatives
wake up and understand that you know between what was going on with big tech as well the censorship
there um you know between the twitter files and everything else that was you think sam harris is
lying he said you you know he was criticizing people like joe rogan and jordan peterson saying
you've got these people who think that january 6 was a non-event and, you know,
not one of the worst days in history and all that stuff.
And Sam Harris,
I personally think he's a liar.
I think he is dishonest.
Because you can't have a guy who is famous
for, one of the things he's famous for is
going on Bill Maher and being heavily critical
of people like Ben Affleck for
blindly just defending Islamic
extremists and things like that.
And then turn around and just blanketly be like like Trump is the most dangerous thing to this nation I don't care to hear evidence or debate it like you you can't be that so maybe he's got cognitive
dissonance and I don't mean to single out Sam Harris but a lot of people who are trying to
ham up January 6th as like the apocalypse I'll tell you you want to talk about insurrection
conspiracy you you said it.
Indicting the front runner.
For the 2024 presidential election.
Targeting his supporters.
That is destroying this country.
I can't believe that.
Well I mean.
I suppose now.
I should be able to believe it.
But it's still.
When I think about it. It's still surprising that.
It's so clearly politically motivated. And there are still people that are defending it.
And maybe I had too much hope in my fellow Americans, but it really is disheartening when, you know, even if you think that what he did, what he's been accused of is legitimate, like what it's legitimate.
He actually violated the law.
It's clear that he didn't do anything that was worse than any other president.
And I don't see how you like to make the argument that you can, that he's that he's uniquely bad.
I don't see it.
And I don't see anything positive for the country coming out of this.
I mean, it's so obviously a political hit job.
They're creating the law as they go.
I mean, the charges that they brought Donald Trump up against in this latest indictment, this was for accounting fraud in the wake of like the Enron scandal.
That's what the statute is that they're bringing him up against and the other one is for like um originally for um it was an 1865 statute
um to you know for the against the ku klux klan intended to um you know go against the ku klux
klan for um targeting uh people um freed slaves at the time um using violence to prevent them from
voting so that's the statute that they're using against Donald Trump in this latest indictment. Obviously, it's makeshift law. They're creating this as they go because it's the
weaponization of the DOJ, the deep state against the political opponent. I mean, we've never had
this before in American history where a president of the United States is going after, you know,
obviously the front runner and the lawyers. Yeah, I mean, the consultants and the consultants, anyone who is associated with Donald Trump or went along with this. a conspiracy against the United States, a real insurrection when he escaped to basically Texas
at the time, the land that would become Texas, Louisiana territory, which was Spanish owned at
the time. And he plotted with the Spanish government to form his own government there
as a direct challenge to Thomas Jefferson, given the fact that Burr had been serving as
Jefferson's vice president up until 1805. So, I mean, and then Jefferson basically sent the feds after Burr,
you know, and the federal judge,
it was a trial presided over by Chief Justice Marshall at the time
who acquitted Burr of his alleged crime.
So even in that case, you had someone,
you had Aaron Burr who truly went against the United States government,
acquitted for his crime.
So it just goes to show how unprecedented this is.
Is it true that certain people got the call that day not to show up?
I've heard that theory.
It might have been.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then so maybe you could tell me more.
The gates were just open.
Right.
And people who walked in were arrested.
True.
Yeah.
So if you just walked in, you go yeah so if you just walked in you go to
something you just see a gate open you walk in your not even the gate open so there were barricades
at first and i met a woman she said that her and her husband showed up just shy of three o'clock
right well after the barricades are torn down well after all the fighting and they walked
onto what is open grounds typically open to the public with no signs anywhere with no barricades
no broken glass because there was fighting on one side and nothing on the other
they walked into the building doors were wide open cops were waving to people walked inside
said the whole thing took six minutes they walked in walked out looked around and were like whatever
and went home then they got served criminal charges right and they were like we didn't even
do anything right they went to court dc jury and they said we didn't go with this group we weren't even there at that time we just
showed up and walked around and we're told you joined the mob and so you're criminally responsible
and now they're facing a year in prison it seems like a huge setup i did know someone who was in
jail during that time period and it seems you know, even rapists and people that
commit serious crimes can get out of jail sooner, quicker than some of the people that were involved
with this, right? Correct. I mean, yeah, that's how they're being treated. I mean, they're put
away in the DC gulag and, you know, we have to encourage our lawmakers, especially Republicans
to speak out against this because people are languishing behind bars and they're being, you
know, treated worse than, uh, you know, domestic terrorists. I bars and they're being treated worse than domestic terrorists.
They are being labeled domestic terrorists.
Do you think it was a setup?
It seems that way.
I mean, specifically in this indictment against Donald Trump, they conveniently always leave out the part when he said, everyone return home peacefully.
We've made our point.
We've made our message known.
And everyone, you protested, please return back home peacefully.
They always clip that out of the video and they always clip that out of the complaint that they allege against Donald Trump, that they file against Donald Trump.
You know, vast majority of the people there were protesting peacefully that day.
From all the video that we see, these people were let in freely into the Capitol.
They weren't, you know,
barging in.
They weren't going in violently.
They were basically let in
by Capitol Police
from all the video that we see.
Everything we're seeing
with these indictments
is basically like
we're playing Monopoly
and the guy we're playing against
grabs a bunch of money
out of the bank and says,
oh, it's the Murphy rule. And you're like wait what is that no no that's in the book
don't worry your turn roll the dice and you're like well hold on you just grabbed a bunch of
money what are you doing no no oh now i gotta move your guy to jail like wait wait wait hold on why
what do you do no i'm sorry those are the rules i have no choice and we're just going okay darn he
got me again it's like at a certain point you realize these charges are nonsense they're locking
up people who bumbled around and didn't even know what was going on and they're just going on those
are the rules like we have to arrest you you agree with that right and people are like yeah i guess
so right so it seems like they just want to implement a fear-based thing to anyone who
questions they create the rules of the game and we go along with it they want to pump as much fear
into you as they can right right if you're doing this we're gonna you're you're gonna go to jail for this amount of time, and you're going to be – this is a serious crime.
Yeah.
When just walking onto grounds, there's no sign.
There's no one telling you not to do it.
There's no –
There's such a thing still called the First Amendment.
People have a right to protest.
People have a right to petition their government.
People have a right to speak. And obviously, all these things have been trampled over by the Biden regime, by their friends in Silicon Valley, as we've seen with the Twitter files, as we've seen with Facebook.
To be fair, it's not.
I mean, it's been there's been a whole lot of trampling for the past 20 years.
It's not just that I didn't.
It was primed already.
I mean, one of the Proud Boys who got convicted of conspiracy, there's video of him at the Capitol saying, don't go inside.
Don't go in. And he got convicted of what? That video of him at the capitol saying don't go inside don't go in
and he got convicted of what like that's what i'm saying it's like playing monopoly and your opponent
just grabs your piece and puts it in the jail and says now you have to stay there and you're like
why i'm like it's the labonte rule and you're like oh it is like that's right you go guess i lose
again that's right i win you lose that's right you just got you just that's what that's what they
said that's how it works when you play board games with four-year-olds.
I mean, there's no logic. It's all emotionally based.
To be honest, that's how you play when you're the four-year-old.
Or when there are four-year-olds who are like, no, I changed the rules.
I mean, it's just ridiculous to have this level of government being able to manipulate things and costing people their lives.
I mean, all of the January 6th defendants sacrificed so much to try and keep up.
Like a lot of them don't always know where people that they're related to, what jails
are being held in, like where their cases are going.
When I was interviewing them, they were saying, you know, we just lean on each other and we
hope that they get a judge that is somewhat sympathetic because we know all the D.C.
juries will ultimately convict them.
And that's that must be such a terrible feeling to be like there's no hope for me.
And the American justice system is going to continue to ruin my life afterward.
I do have hope.
We have the story from the post-millennial newly appointed special counsel.
David Weiss moves to drop Hunter's plea deal.
Weiss dropped the plea deal that had been in the works with Hunter's Hunter Biden in Delaware over tax crimes and a gun charge.
Now, I'm not saying that he's going to get punished as he is going to face accountability.
But I believe because of the tremendous pressure that we have placed covering the story and
talking about Biden's Hunter Biden's plea deal, they are now forced to actually pursue
some kind of real charges against Hunter Biden.
Granted, I don't think he's going to get the charges he should get.
It's still probably going to be a slap on the wrist, but he's not getting that sweetheart
perfect immunity deal.
Judge wouldn't wouldn't fall for it.
The public hears about it.
There's a there's a big eruption.
And now they're forced to be like, OK, we've actually got to charge this guy for the crimes
he's doing.
So I do think it's fair to say pressure forces them to make that move.
They know there's a boundary they
can't cross and that's where we need to be if the issue is we're playing a game a board game and
they keep cheating and making up fake rules we just need to eventually say no you can't do that
move our piece back to where it's supposed to be and force them to acknowledge they're gonna have
to play by the rules too i think if we keep this pressure up we look at bud light we look at sound
of freedom we look at hunter losing his plea, we can see that the pressure is on
and it does work.
Yeah, I totally agree
with what you're saying
about forcing them
to essentially play by the rules
that we want to establish
because they've been essentially
making the rules up as they go,
which is something that I've been
kind of harping on recently,
like just the whole philosophy thing.
If the people that are on the left tend not to have a philosophy that, you know, believes
that engaging good faith is actually the proper course of action.
If you don't have, you know, people that want to engage with you in good faith, then
you can't make a, you know, you can't actually argue a position and come to
an agreement.
It's all just a power game.
So I think that's probably what you got to do.
I mean, I see the David Weiss thing as more of a performative thing.
I mean, this guy, it seems like he's going to give what Hunter Biden off the hook without
obviously a slap on the wrist, as you said.
I mean, he's a Republican. It's going to be worse than we was going to get, right?
Right. Well, he's a Republican, so it's like the same exact
playbook as the Robert Mueller investigation. They try to pretend that this guy
is impartial, that he's respected by both sides of the aisle. This guy's an
institutionalist and so on and so forth.
That's how I see it. I get that. But they were trying to give Hunter Biden blanket immunity.
Right.
That got pulled off the table.
They're probably now groaning, being like, damn, it didn't work.
Okay, well, we'll get our guy in there and we'll claim he's a Republican.
And then they're still going to have to give Hunter Biden something worse than he was going to get.
My point is only, I don't think we're we've won but we've certainly taken some territory
in forcing them to acknowledge like hey that deal was bad they tried to pull a fast one
now they're going to try and still pull some kind of fast one but they've lost ground
so that's still good you gotta take small victories where you can i think first of all
i don't think he should be i gotta be honest hunter biden should not have been charged for
the gun thing like second amendment rights they're saying he lied on a form or whatever.
Nah, if you're under the influence, you shouldn't be able to be carrying a weapon.
If you're not, and you have a sound mind, you should be able to buy one.
I don't like that charge at all.
Lying on his tax forms?
I also kind of don't like taxes.
So, I will only say this.
The only issue is, they'll come after a regular american for those charges
tenfold right and we need to have equality under equality under the law and and and accountability
i want hunter biden to face some serious charges but more importantly
i i see we've gained a couple inches here you know we we've moved forward a little bit we've
advanced the line that's's good. Not perfect.
What we really need to see and we need intensive pressure on is his illicit business dealings and serving as a proxy for his dad and influence peddling.
But that's going to have to come from Congress.
And they seem to be sitting on their hands.
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, yeah, it's a step in the right direction.
And Congress will have to act.
It will have to do much more than it's already done i mean at this point congress i mean not to change the subject here but they should have subpoenaed out alvin bragg the da um leading this uh indictment against donald trump in new york should have uh
subpoenaed all these uh prosecutors going out against donald trump by now i don't know why
they have not um you know here in this case at least david weiss um is at least uh we know for jack smith is a
total political hack i mean his wife was um you know donated thousands of dollars to joe biden
the 2020 presidential campaign um she worked for a film company that had uh financial ties
allegedly to george soros so mean, at least in this case,
they try to pretend like this guy is somewhat more nonpartisan here. But then again, I do think we
have to raise the bar. We have to raise the standard much higher and demand much more
from our congressman. So what would you like to see happen to hunter biden um well i mean tim mentioned you
know these charges you know that a normal american probably um would get off the hook here or or a
normal american we basically have to get to the business dealings with barisma with what we're
seeing with the tucker carlson interview of this past week between David Archer and basically the connection there
that Joe Biden was meeting with these people
while he should have been meeting
with the Chinese prime minister.
He was taking meetings with Hunter Biden
and his company and so on and so forth.
So that's the crux of the issue.
But I'm more, my perspective on this is at least, you know, they're getting him for something.
I mean, we know what the crime is.
We know what the problem is.
We know what fraud this guy really committed against the United States.
But at the very least, they're going after him for something.
And I think, you know, we should be satisfied with that from that
vantage point but then
again the pressure has to be much higher I think
from our elected lawmakers
we should bring these people
we should bring David Weiss
subpoena him potentially
we should question him interrogate him we should demand
more from our government I mean this guy
was already serving in government
which is in violation of
federal law. A special counsel should not be someone with ties already to the federal government,
with ties to the deep state. We should truly select someone outside of the government,
which we have not done here. So that's something that we should be looking at for this specific
case here. But again, pressure needs to be put on these people because as we've seen, they'll get away with doing anything. You know, they'll try to impeach their major political opponent. They'll try to get Donald Trump behind bars and they're going to stop at nothing, you know, to accomplish that goal. That is their end objective. So that's up to us, the American people, to put
the pressure on them and keep them, hold their feet to the fire. Because if we don't, no one
else will. Going back, I had a question off topic. Going back, since you're pretty knowledgeable,
could Donald Trump have part in the January Sixers? That's something that he should do.
And I think that's something that he's looking at very strongly right now.
And if he obviously is reelected in 24, he most likely will.
Yeah, because I was wondering, did he have the power while he was in office to still do that?
Some people question, why didn't he do that?
That's why I was...
I mean, it's difficult.
I mean, he was being impeached at the time.
We tend to forget that he was impeached once he left office.
So there's so much going on at the time for Donald Trump that I think that question, there wasn't enough time to explore it.
The argument is that he didn't know what was going on. He didn't, some people, he said,
this is actually a really great answer. He said that some of these people did bad things and they
were violent and they were committing crimes. And, you know, how do you have enough time with
two weeks to go through all this and figure out, you know, who they're charging and what
they're charging them with? And the people who were charged and arrested, many of them were
actively violent. They went after the fact when Trump is no longer president, after a lot of the
people who are walking around confused, there's no way Trump would be able to, I mean, there's
thousands of people in DC. There's no way he's going to be able to figure out who accidentally
walked on a lawn and would later be charged with very serious crimes.
You've got people, Brandon Strzok didn't even go in the building and they got him criminally charged.
So I think it's unfortunate.
Trump maybe could have done something, but it's a rock and a hard place because hundreds of thousands of people, I think, were down there that day at his rally.
And then at the rally outside of there was a peaceful permitted rally outside of the capitol 800 or so people went inside they're now charging
not only the people who went inside but even people who are on the capitol grounds with being
on restricted grounds or something like this there's no way for trump to have pardoned those
guys there's too many names too many random people he doesn't know what they're going to charge you
can you can if trump had a list of everybody went there, if he made a website and said, send me your name right now and I will pardon you, that maybe would work.
But then what?
Right.
He's going to go through every single name.
One guy punched a cop.
You don't want to pardon that guy.
He had two weeks between January 6th and January 20th.
And you may forget they were trying to oust him from office before January 20th in January
of 2021.
There was a movement to get him pushed out of the White House
like day after January 6th.
So he had so much going on at that point in time.
Obviously, this is a serious issue.
And now if he does get reelected,
this is something that he would do.
But at the time, it was just crazy.
He needs like a task force.
Right.
Yeah, he does.
To start going through all the names.
Right.
And then, I mean, it's actually really simple.
You know what I'd do if I was Trump?
I would say, give me a list of every misdemeanor charge, and they are pardoned.
Every single one, no matter what.
Well, every charge should have been a misdemeanor.
Not the guys who were fighting cops.
Yeah.
There were a lot of people who storm fighting cops yeah like if there were a
lot of people who stormed the barricades and were actively fighting with cops like no dude you riot
you get charged with charge with those charges some of those guys probably were just misdemeanors
like a guy who's on the front line screaming and yelling and like pushes a cop probably didn't get
a felony but if you're one of the guys who was like throwing stuff i mean there was a fire
extinguisher that was thrown they lied and claimed it killed a cop, didn't they? But I mean, yeah, I don't know how I feel about pardoning people who are
actively fighting with cops. You know what I mean? Well, there's so much that we still don't know.
There's still a lot of footage that still needs to come out. And all this is still being sorted
out. So it's hard to jump to conclusions, to legal conclusions, I think, still, even though
we do know a lot more now than we did back then but um yeah
absolutely as at least as a starting point yeah you you would want to pardon anyone who's um been
charged with a misdemeanor and then take it from there and you'd have to set up a special
task force or commission to look into these charges and take it step by step but the bottom
line is these people are being treated horribly by the U.S. government. They should not be treated
like this. They're American patriots.
They went there that day
just to contest, just to express their
First Amendment right, expressing
the fact that they believe that the
2020 election was illegitimate,
that it was corrupted, that it was subject to voter
fraud. That was the reason why they were there
that day, and that's the reason why
they were exercising their rights. And it was a protest. protest it was not a riot it was not an insurrection
at some point there was a riot in the front so i don't think the whole thing was yeah not the
whole thing i mean maybe i mean there were a lot of people there was a very emotionally charged day
um you know the riders should be charged and the protesters threatened when that girl they
shot that girl what why did you Why did they shoot that girl?
Ashley Babbitt.
Because she didn't have a weapon.
The argument was, I guess the cop said he was scared.
He saw her climbing through the window or whatever.
There's no good reason.
What's she going to do to him?
Nothing.
She's like, there's a tiny little hole she's looking through.
There was no reason to use deadly force.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just shocking that no one really talked about it like uh well we all did and it's kind of obvious that
just no one on the left talked about the machine the corporate press the machine is crooked but
let's let's do this let's it's friday night so we'll shift into some cultural stuff we got two
big cultural stories the first one everybody has been clamoring about this we got 800 000 super
chats about oliver. Singer Oliver Anthony
goes mega viral with song
Rich Men North of Richmond. John Rich
offers to produce record.
In the song, Anthony grieves the separation between
the average person in America and the class of
rich men north of Richmond who want
to have total control of decisions in this country.
It's an awesome song. It's an
absolutely incredible performance. Just the guy
with his guitar. It's amazing.
Postmillennial says up-and-coming Virginia country singer Oliver Anthony has gone viral for the song.
It's got 2.3 million views in the last two days.
And John Rich has even offered to help him produce a record.
Dude, this is some uplifting news.
We talk about all this bad stuff all the time.
Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to crack open a beer.
Hopefully not a Bud Light. And grab some wings and have a good time.
Smile.
This is awesome.
The song Rich Men North of Richmond centers around a theme of the struggling working class American being pushed around by the political class living in and around D.C.
I've been selling my soul, working all day, overtime, hours for BS pay.
So I can sit out here and waste my life away,
drag back home
and drown my troubles away.
In the song,
Anthony seems to grieve
the separation that has come
between the average person
and these rich political elites.
Taxes,
the welfare state,
the death of young men
in the country
are all topics
the song touches on.
Here's what I love about this.
The song has a message.
It is a positive message we like. Through his talent and his merit, it has been discovered and gone viral online, creating
a real opportunity. John Rich, legendary country star, is now stepping in. So we've got here a
couple things. One, I want to outright just say, you get woke, you go broke. Bud Light loses $400 million.
They're selling off their craft brands.
Disney loses $900 million.
And then factory worker guy out in the boonies in Virginia puts together a song and boom, superstar.
This is more of what we want to see.
We want to see people build culture, succeed in making culture, and we want to supplant the the the the twisted woke culture
that we've been seeing so shout out oliver anthony the song's fantastic and uh i don't know how you
guys feel i love this style of music and an artist i'm already interested in who sort of i'm coming
was following him on instagram when i went to find this video uh so i took that as a good sign
i think there's something to be said for especially this like folksy Americana sound to be talking about like
something that real Americans are facing.
I mean,
we can all harp on pop songs about all sounding the same.
And that's one of the best things about this song.
It's completely unique,
but also completely relatable.
I haven't listened to it.
So I have no opinion.
Wow.
Phil,
it's been out like a day.
I thought you were the musician
i thought you were into this stuff yeah we're supposed to have resident rock star phil be like
i endorse this song yeah i don't like acoustic guitars no but but it's like i gotta be honest
i'm not i'm not a country music kind of guy that's not my jam but i am absolutely all about
supporting people who are producing cultural works that push back on woke psychotic garbage
and authoritarianism and this hit the nail that head with the hammer i don't care if a guy made a
comic book a manga a video game or a song gaining traction winning through merit regular working
class guy hitting it big time through through pure merit that's what i love you know you don't
i heard and i don't know phil maybe you know about this justin bieber you know how he got his start uh
was he a disney kid well like youtube i guess right oh but i heard that was fake really i don't
know that's true and i don't want to accuse the guy of doing anything wrong i got no beef
but what i heard so it's like he made a youtube video or something like that where he's singing
and then they're like wow look how viral this is i heard that it's like he made a YouTube video or something like that where he's singing. And then they're like, wow, look how viral this is.
I heard that it was like the managers planned it.
We want to build this thing around him where it's like he's a natural star.
So they had him do the video, helped promote it.
I don't know if that's true.
Here's what I do know.
Gangnam Style, absolutely manufactured.
I know for a fact.
Because the dude, actually, I i think to be honest the same
guy behind justin bieber who did this but actually went to a speech where he said they met with him
in advance and said how can we make this song biggest i think this song can be very big in the
u.s like the macarena this is amazing i'm looking at the lyrics right now i've been selling my soul
working all day overtime hours for bullshit pay i've been living in old this is this is great i
haven't heard i haven't heard i haven't heard it yet but this i'm we're gonna we got we gotta help it go viral
we gotta help promote the the culture that's living in the new world with an old soul i can
relate to that i loved i like it because like there are really cool artists and people out
there who who are explicit like maga trump stuff like that but what i like about this is it's just
really good art that speaks to a part of culture that now more and more gets overlooked because mainstream industries say you shouldn't
talk about those things did he go viral on Twitter was it I think it was YouTube okay and then and
then on Twitter and then he made a Twitter and I think I saw it on Twitter first one of the things
you have to worry about when you're trying to do something like this like you don't want to be too
on the nose and i mean everyone
knows what i'm talking about like you've seen something where you're just like all right i get
what you're trying to do but because you didn't because you kind of don't have your finger on the
pulse where you ended up being too literal and it sounds hokey or whatever and you mean that song
that i'm working on called lizzo has insulin resistance is too Insulin Resistance is too much? I think you should pull back.
I think you should pull back on that one.
Personally, I think Put the Big Mac Down is a better title.
Put the Big Mac Down.
I think the same people who voted for Trump would relate to the song.
It's the same demographic.
Well, the thing is, I haven't read the lyrics, but if it's getting this kind of response,
it makes me think that you probably can relate to it
without being a trump voter that's the thing that that you have to be able to like transcend
political ideas like one of these this kid one time this is a little while ago but some kid hit
me up one day and he was a big fan of all that remains and he was a very very far left kid and all like all his
interpretation of the stuff that i was saying in all that remains lyrics is he got the idea that
i was a far leftist and it's like i'm not a leftist at all there are a lot of a lot of times
where people on the right and on the left are looking for the same result and see the same problems they just have a different means to go to solve it and i think that
you try to identify things that are human without sounding too much like your one political
perspective or the other or at least that's what i think is is the best way to to get people onto
your side i think there's working class on both sides. Yeah, exactly.
It's easy to be,
not easy, I don't want to take anything away from people that do
this. It's one thing to be like, I'm
a MAGA guy. I'm on the MAGA, like
Bryson Gray, the MAGA rapper.
Cool, awesome. That's his
deal. He's a MAGA guy. Cool.
But it's also cool to be able to be
like, yo, I can hang out with the MAGA
people and I can also hang out with the people that aren't MAGA people.
You know what I mean?
That's one of the things I like about this.
This idea like the Richmond, north of Richmond, like that's everybody in D.C.
That's not a political party.
And that means that there actually is a lot of unity among people outside of, you know, like working class people of either political leaning.
And this is an example of that.
We just think of it as the working class guys are all completely MAGA all the time because
we assume all city people.
We have a resident New York City Republican among us right now.
But like there are there is discrepancy.
And I think the idea that the political elite is actually the one making all decisions is
a unifying idea.
So I got it.
I'm going to make an all that remains cover band called All That Remains MAGA.
Cool.
And we're going to change all the lyrics to be about supporting Trump.
Yeah, absolutely.
Are these the lyrics to his song?
Yeah, these are amazing.
It looks like he's calling out Lizzo here.
Well, God, if you're 5'3", you're 300 pounds, taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge
rounds.
I know news came out today that they dropped Lizzo in consideration for the Super Bowl story based on her treatment.
I don't know if that's something we're going to talk about later.
But maybe he's vying for a spot.
Dude, maybe we shouldn't have the, what was it when MTV or whatever, where they had the gigantic bat on stage?
And those three fat women were engaging in simulated adult activities.
Was that WAP?
I don't know,
but I'm like,
maybe we have this guy on stage and that's the message we want to leave for
kids.
That sounds like a direct challenge to Lizzo right there.
This,
like this,
when,
uh,
when you were away,
we had Carter on and we talked about,
uh,
someone called in,
uh,
Tim cast,
uh,
member who said,
you know,
I'm trying to get into music and I don't really write political stuff, i could it's trying to talk to carter banks our music producer about it
and we were talking about that uh y'all alternative this like folksy country stuff is really popular
right now and i think this person is talented like when i was scrolling through his instagram
he's been making music for a while he obviously has picked up on something that needs to be said
and he's in a genre that's done well and i think it's cool to see someone get this kind of recognition
because it's art as opposed to just a political campaign you know i mean the culture right now
is so starved for good quality original authentic content that obviously this would fill a void
for all art not just music but yeah i agree with you unity baby unity i think you said it best
earlier i think why said it best earlier i
think why don't we just bring everybody from the right and left come together and we just come
because the left doesn't want to come together very very ian-esque of you robbie very ian-esque
i was like ian's not here tonight i was like robbie can be that hippie crystal i'm just saying
you know let's all come together and let's take down the establishment but they are the establishment
so here here's here's what we end up seeing you get people like vosh who say the right is
inherently authoritarian which literally makes no sense because the full political compass has
libertarians on both both sides the quote-unquote right as it's typically defined recognizes that
the left has libertarians and the right has libertarians and they scale up in very different
ways but the left views it entirely as you are on the right you are bad no matter what
to the point where we have people come into this show and defend books like this book is gay and
genderqueer that are sexually explicit books given to kids and i'm like you're just agreeing with
that because the left tribally agrees with that the the right tends to be an amalgam of various
world views the left tends to be rigid and the easiest way to explain it
donald trump anti-establishment right i don't think anybody would describe trump as establishment
now they may try to as a smear leftists and i don't mean liberals i mean leftists
advocated for voting for neoliberal corporate candidate joe biden
prominent socialist and communist person as on youtube with millions of followers said you have
to vote for joe biden me i i don't like any of them because i'd probably vote libertarian before
anything else didn't vote for trump in the first time around saw what he was doing second time
around no new wars and i said well i'm not a republican but trump has really gotten the the
deep state the the bureaucratic system coming after the corporate establishment so i'm going to vote for this guy for these reasons the left then said that's fascist
and authoritarian and you're the problem and i'm like bro you're the people marching around with
slogans that walmart puts up in their building right like you are you are marching alongside
the slogans of the u.s army and amazon and pfizer they are the establishment now there are people on
the left
in terms of the political spectrum
that are anti-establishment,
few and far between.
But we're, like, Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy Dore is economically left
and anti-establishment.
So we love the guy.
He's fantastic.
We're big fans.
I love anti-war.
Right.
Anti-war, baby.
When I was growing up,
you know,
Democrats were anti-war.
Not no more.
Oh, you know what? Let-war not no more oh you know
what but let's let's go for this let's go for this i have a problem with that we can talk about
later but i'm gonna i'm gonna i want to play a little bit of this clip and we'll jump into this
one we got this from uh citizen free press actually robbie mentioned to us before the show
a clip from the joe rogan experience where he says quote on the left they want they this want
for war in ukraine this trust in the military industrial complex. What happened to you guys?
The best take on it was Trump.
He said, I just want people to stop dying.
And that is somehow controversial.
Joe Rogan hit the nail on the head with the hammer with this one.
I was thinking about this earlier.
The left and the right switched.
Totally switched.
You got this Oliver Anthony guy playing the song about the working class lamenting the rich corporate elites ripping off this country, ripping off the workers and these these wealthy Uber elites in big cities, the
highest income earners in the country demanding we pay their debts for college.
Total inversion.
Before Trump got elected, we viewed the Democratic Party as the party of the working class.
Today, that is absolutely not true.
Vox.com ran the story in 2016.
The Democratic Party became the party of wealthy elites.
The party switched and now they claim you're oh, you're wing it's like okay well i'm anti-war i'm
pro-free speech i'm pro-individual liberties i oppose massive multinational corporations i
corporations i think are horrifying now all of a sudden the left pro big pharma pro-military
industrial complex pro-war they go i'm not pro-war i just think we should
be pro-censorship all of these it's a complete inversion of what the parties were when i was
growing up the most insidious thing about it is they do control every major institution of power
they do control the administrative state they do control big pharma they do control the entertainment
industry and so on and so forth silicon valley But they're able to portray themselves as the perpetual, eternal victims.
And that's how they're able to scapegoat Donald Trump as an elite, as the enemy, as
someone who doesn't have the interest of the working class on their side.
I don't think so anymore.
I think it's changing.
It absolutely is changing.
And the paradigm has shifted considerably as a result of Donald Trump.
And Trump is doing better
in the polls now relative to where he was back in 2019 compared to biden sure so he he's actually
now winning it doesn't mean a lot because uh between now and election we got a year a year
and a few months it's an eternity but i think what's happening in my personal i can only give
you an anecdote i have friends and family they're friends and family you know i'll go to dinner and i'll be like you know having dinner with have friends and family. They're friends and family.
You know, I'll go to dinner and I'll be like, you know, having dinner with my friends and then I'll see their family members.
Year and a half ago, totally on board with the corporate narrative.
Yeah.
And we'd have these discussions.
And I try to be very cordial.
I'm not here to rent anybody's brain.
Look, we just have some macaroni and cheese.
We're in a macaroni and cheese.
I'm not going to talk about this stuff.
But if they bring it up, I'm going to open the door.
Year and a half later, what are the conversations like? they're moderate anti corporate narrative now they now they say things have me going like how did you go from there wow
all right there there are these really fascinating moments where after we talk and i show them like
actually that wasn't true like don't don't take my word for it like here's a here's a news story
they go oh i didn't realize then i'll be like don't take my word for it. Like, here's a here's a news story. They go, Oh, I didn't realize that. And I'll be like, Look, I'm not telling you
what to think. Now, a year later, they're like, I don't like Trump. But wow, did they lie to us?
You look at Democrats in Congress. I mean, 20 years ago, when they are, there were obviously
major outs. I mean, a lot of the political establishment was on lockstep with the Iraq
war. But you don't nothing in comparison to what you're seeing today with Ukraine. I mean,
there were anti war Democrats who voted against the war in Iraq, obviously Bernie Sanders. Now you look at
his actions today, I mean, I don't think he's said anything critical about how the Biden regime is
handling, you know, they're basically signing over blank checks to the Ukraine, over $200 billion.
I haven't heard a word of any Democratic congressman who was originally
against the Iraq war criticize what we're doing right now in the Ukraine. They're totally
a uniparty. They're one step, they're a lockstep on the war issue. And they're obviously,
just a few years ago, Bernie Sanders was the one criticizing the Koch brothers and their
agenda on immigration, wanting open
borders and so forth.
He was very critical of that.
Now, totally 180.
You never hear him say a word about it anymore.
Or anyone.
He's got the memo.
He's not supposed to.
The World Socialist website called Bernie Sanders a nationalist capitalist.
I'm like, wow.
Would we be at war if Trump was in office with Ukraine?
I mean, with Russia?
Not at all.
Not at all.
You think it would have been for him?
The reason why, I mean, we weren't at war with Russia and Ukraine while he was president.
I take him on faith.
I believe, I know a lot of people don't like it when he says, you know, I would have brokered peace within 24 hours.
I'll get peace within 24 hours.
But, you know, I think under Donald Trump, we had the most world peace, you know, in
generations of any president.
And now since he's left politics, it's created a vacuum there.
And now we have the most, you know, chaos in the global situation and the global scene
that we've seen in decades.
I mean, now we're actually talking about World War Three as a viable possibility.
We're talking about, you know as a viable possibility. We're
talking about using nukes again. We're talking about Russia and Putin potentially using nukes
in the Ukraine to protect their own interests there in that region. So it's just night and day
how much has changed. I mean, I remember Donald Trump when he first got into office, actually
prior to even going into office, when he met with Obama about a couple of days after he had won.
Can you get Donald Trump to FaceTime right now?
We'll see if he'll call in.
We'll see if he's listening.
But I remember Trump saying that during that meeting with Obama, that Obama said,
the toughest thing you'll have to deal with is North Korea and the weapons they were shooting
off at that time. And Donald Trump accomplished something
that no one ever thought would,
that no one ever believed would be accomplished.
He actually walked into North Korea.
He actually brokered peace and diplomacy with Kim Jong-un.
Him and Dennis Rodman too.
Yeah, absolutely, with help from Dennis Rodman.
But no one ever anticipated that.
I mean, no joke.
Use whatever resources you can help from dennis rodman but no one ever denis rodman i mean no joke that's use whatever whatever
resources you can to to uh negotiate peace in that way but trump crossed into right actual
enemy territory with no security detail incredible move i mean he gets attacked by the left for it
so this this is it i mean i view the left as fundamentally tribalist and whatever we describe as the right, it's not even conservative.
You have post liberals. You've got a whole bunch of liberals who are traditional liberals who are now called right wing, even though they completely disagree on a bunch of core political issues.
You've got a bunch of people who are considered right wing who are pro choice, who would agree with moderate liberal and Democrat voters on the issue of choice were it not for the the cult tribal behaviors these people exhibit i think republicans would win
almost every election if they were pro-choice i i don't necessarily agree with that
i think the issue i i go ahead i just i think that that the republicans as a brand have been so damaged in the popular culture that I think that the Republicans overall probably aren't going to survive another 10 years.
I think there'll be another name for the party.
You look at the way that the establishment Republicans and the way the MAGA Republicans, they're very different.
They want different things.
I feel like the end because of the way that the Democrats are similar with like DSA.
No, no.
Neil Libs.
Yeah.
But what I'm saying is that the Republican brand in like popular culture has been so
damaged.
You get people like like, you know, the Daily Show every night, every night of the week
doing everything they can to discredit any idea that's Republican or that comes from
a conservative.
I actually be more inclined to believe the Democrats are the party that will disintegrate no no i'm talking i'm i'm
you're talking about the old the brand name republic i know yeah right you think the name
democrat will first yes i doubt it because when first you've there's a lot to break down here
right and that's why you said when it comes to to what it comes with the abortion thing if
republicans are pro-choice no i honestly agree with that i think
uh the left these liberals people vote democrat don't have any policy positions we we invite these
people on the show and then i'll say like hey i'm i'm personally pro-choice and uh you know like i
think there should be how we traditionally had it certainly within a few weeks then they say
you're pro-abortion or they say you're pro-life they call me pro-life and i'm like i i don't think you have any real
positions because all you're going to do is say whatever the opposite of what i'm saying is and
i don't see how that survives when you have nine million obama voters switch to vote for donald
trump when you have trump doing better and better and uh trump being fairly moderate this is by
vox.com standards not fox vox Vox, V-O-X.
The leftist Vox website said Trump was a moderate.
What I see here is young men becoming more conservative.
It's more, there's a bigger social path
on forming on the right for young men.
I believe this will create a social pressure
on young women to move right,
just like we see with marriage.
I think for cultural reasons, like the success of the song Rich Men North of Richmond, the success of Sound of Freedom, the failures of Bud Light.
I don't think over the long period, if this trend continues, that Democrat is the thing you're going to want to identify as because even Democrats say they don't like Democrats.
Now, don't get me wrong. Republicans say they don't like Republicans, but Republicans have actually gained tons of ground with the Freedom Caucus, with libertarian candidates that are in the Democratic Party, which gives people, I think, more ground to stand on when it comes to, hey, if Mitch McConnell retire.
When when when these Democrats were chanting retire to Mitch McConnell, Trump posted it on Truth and said, yes, retire.
Agreeing with him.
See, I think that that speaks to kind of my point.
Like Trump Republicans are not the establishment Republicans.
And I think that I think that the the and the reason I'm saying this is because I think of dudes that I'm like that are in the music industry that I talk to that are completely and totally isolated from like this world right they're totally in the bubble they totally like California brain
you know their entire world like I'm the only person they interact with that doesn't have the
same political opinions right and they have they it was a couple weeks ago. I'm sitting there listening to him talk about Satanists and stuff.
And it's like the way that they think of it is the way that me and my friends used to think of Christians in the 90s.
They're talking about if there was something that happened that Satanist, there was some satanic imagery and the religious right had kind
of got all up in arms about it and they were mocking the religious right they were they were
going at him and i'm just like i feel like there's so many people in popular culture that still have
a negative opinion of anyone that's a conservative republican blah blah and i think people like
sam smith that like his and and the imagery that he used and Lil Nas, the imagery that he used.
All that stuff is still very anti-right.
I feel like the left still has the popular culture.
But I'll say a couple of things.
The right tends to be more reformist.
The left tends to be more revolutionary, which means people on the right are going to be more willing to compromise within the confines of what is Republican, where Democrats are going to be more likely to fight amongst themselves and try and rapidly change it. That might not mean a whole
lot in terms of these political party brand names. But I think when you look at. I don't I don't see
in the long run people wanting to be proud Democrats. The left despises them. They want
insurgency as well. And then I see among
the right people being like, oh, the Republican Party is bad, but we can change it. Right. So
it's the revolution versus reformer thing. I mean, you see the internal reform within
the Republican Party as playing as it's playing out or it is playing out in the Republican primary
this cycle. I mean, the old Republican brand, I think, is sort of embodied by Mike Pence.
You see in his conversations with Tucker Carlson recently at Iowa during that summit they held, the forum they held, that he said his criticism, his criticism of the Biden administration's handling of the war in Ukraine was that they're not sending enough tanks, that they're not sending enough money and obviously he got boos from the crowd um and in his poll numbers are obviously in
single digits so anyone who's tried to maintain that traditional republican brand has done pretty
bad um so far in the political sphere now how those that will play out in the broader culture
remains to be seen obviously the culture um lags behind a little bit. But I think people are waking up and I think the Republican brand has an ability to potentially reform in a way that, to Tim's point, the Democrats might not have that flexibility because they don't allow a voice like RFK.
They don't allow, you know, other opinions within their party right now.
I'll make one other point, too.
Anybody, name two prominent up-and-coming Republican stars.
Anna Polina.
Luna.
Yeah, Anna Polina Luna from Florida.
Up-and-coming.
I mean, I want to say George Santos, but everyone else is going to think that I'm wrong,
even though he's the greatest.
Well, let's talk about scale.
Obviously, you have Anna Paulina Luna is a good one.
You have Anthony Sabatini, a friend who's running for Congress.
Absolutely.
We've got, let's say, Matt Gaetz.
But he's been here for a little bit.
He's getting more prominence.
But let's say Vivek Ramaswamy landing on the scene in the Republican primary with no political experience, not in office, and boom, in a matter of months.
How many followers does he have now?
Is he over a million?
I like Vivek.
He's close.
Let me just look up Vivek Ramaswamy real quick.
What state is he based out of?
Ohio.
Vivek Ramaswamy, Trump calls him.
Ramaswamy, 912,000 followers.
This guy is a shooting star right now.
Name an up-and-coming Democrat star.
RFK Jr., but he's...
Frost in Florida.
Who?
Is it Matt Frost in Florida?
He's the youngest member of Congress.
He's the youngest member of Congress.
His campaign manager just launched that super PAC with David Hogg.
I would say A aoc she's been
around for a while i would equate her sort of right matt gates yeah basically sold out what's
the guy's name matt frost is it matt frost am i getting that wrong probably because there's no
twitter i don't know i'll find it but it just goes to your point you know the biggest up-and-comer
for the democrats is the guy in his mid to late 60s. Maxwell Frost.
That's his name.
Maxwell Frost.
First Gen Z congressman.
Maxwell Frost.
And he's got 280,000 followers.
Not bad.
Not bad.
He's not on the major national stage in the same way that you have someone like Vivek.
Right.
So let's talk about presidential contenders.
Democrats don't have a single one.
Republicans have too many.
Now, Tim Scott,
probably not ultimately viable, but a good dude with a decent amount of popularity,
maybe a little C plus. I like the guy, but, you know, VP, maybe Ron DeSantis. Boy, did that guy
do a lot of things wrong, but still a massively notable personality with a lot of a lot of diehard fans and a lot of people who
don't like him running against Trump. You have Donald Trump, tremendous influence and charisma
and hatred, don't get me wrong. Vivek Ramaswamy, shooting star. I mean, wow. The problem in the
GOP was that Trump and DeSantis were both extremely popular. Granted, things have changed. Things
aren't going so well for DeSantis.
But we were like, wow, the problem is Republicans have too many.
So there's another thing that I'm looking at.
The Democrats' best bet was Joe Biden.
And now you know what they're saying?
Michelle Obama.
And I'm like, is that the best you've got?
Honestly, Michelle Obama is probably the best the Democrats could possibly produce.
She doesn't want to, right? I thank God.
What they did with Joe Biden was say, we have no one.
Let's try and pull from the previous administration because we're desperate.
What they're saying now with Michelle Obama is quite literally the same thing.
We are stagnant.
We have no personalities, no charisma, no influence.
And we're trying to go back in time.
That's because the young Democrats are all like they're all uh democratic incapable no no i'm
sorry i'm sorry they're incompetent they're not capable look capability doesn't matter look at
maxine waters like capabilities uh and when it comes to congress people john fetterman is
incapable of their clear but there's still a baseline requirement to lead the party fair
enough so the party's got no leadership don't get me wrong like they would run an aoc if they could i don't think she's old enough she will be old enough but she's not
she's not capable enough to be a presidential figure she's she's too grating the other name
they talk about is gavin newsom um with michelle obama gavin newsom is how would i describe gavin
newsom um i wouldn't call him vanilla pudding, right?
I call him plastic.
Stracciatelli, is that what it's called?
Is that the gelato with the chocolate chips in it or whatever?
It's like just one degree above basic.
Yeah.
He's a C-plus guy.
Yeah.
He's VP level.
He's not presidential level.
Well, considering their bench, it's not that deep.
I like RFK Jr.
But they don't like him. That'sk jr but they don't like him but
they don't like him and they don't consider him a democrat they call him far right they call him
right wing they call him anti-vax they call him all these things i gotta tell you i think
it's it's probably going to be the democratic party republican party as names exist for a
very very long time they've been around for hundreds of years but in terms of the strength
of the party the democrats are in the gutter. And just the fact
that Vivek Ramaswamy
is skyrocketing
in the degree that he is,
I think shows that
the Republicans have
a substantially larger amount
of energy behind them,
interest, passion, etc.
Yeah.
I think there are some Democrats
that people like the media
will pay a lot of attention to
that don't have what it takes
to rise through
the ranks of government. Because it is a little bureaucratic like what i'm thinking i'm specifically
thinking of justin jones the state representative in tennessee who you know is known for the
activism so a lot of progressive voting young people will think oh so cool he's been arrested
and he's demonstrated and he's really with the people he's for the cause but on the other hand
i just don't see him running to Congress and actually getting anything done there.
I have to read this.
It's too good.
Betsy Battle says Gavin Newsom is the Mitt Romney of the Democratic Party.
Ten out of ten.
Nailed it.
That's completely true.
Why can't we just abolish the two-party system and have people start a new system?
I don't think two-party matters.
Why do you think?
I mean, divide and conquer?
I mean, but why not?
No, no, no, no, but the two-party system isn't a big deal, right?
So we have a primary, and 2008, you get Ron Paul in that primary.
Dude's a libertarian and wants to abolish the Federal Reserve.
Wildly opposed, but he didn't get the votes.
He didn't get the votes.
And so what you end up having, and you had kucinich kucinich on the democrat side you it the primary system is the way we we sort through the ideological points of who we think should be the
main candidate in the end if you were to get rid of uh of parties all that would happen is minority
all is massive minority rule so, the problem with the parties
privately run and they can kick out and boot, make the rules however they want it so they can
effectively lie, cheat and steal. That I agree with shouldn't be the case. But if we were to
get rid of the parties outright, what you'd end up with is five Republicans in essence running
against four Democrats, in essence, splitting the vote among the Republicans, making the fringest
candidate win. What you see in Egypt after the first revolution, you get all these political Democrats, in essence, splitting the vote among the Republicans, making the fringest candidate
win. What you see in Egypt after the first revolution, you get all these political parties,
most of them, eight out of 10 are secular. They get 10% each. The Muslim Brotherhood gets 17%.
I'm giving you wild numbers. It doesn't the exact numbers. Well, first past the voting system,
first past the post, the Muslim Brotherhood with 17% wins.
Now you have a country that's 80% demanding of a secular leader under a religious government
getting religious rule, and you get another revolution. So what you effectively have with
the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, the problem, privately run. Bernie Sanders gets
booted out in disgusting and dirty ways. That's a problem. We're not going to have a true sorting algorithm unless we get rid of that kind of private control. But I do think it is still no big deal. I would describe it that if, you know, Ron Paul, Donald Trump and Jeb Bush are all running under the same ticket. Clearly, one of them is not favored. And Ron Paul got a lot of support, but not enough because not enough people had that ideological worldview. You end up with a Donald
Trump. And that's the compromise, which ends up running against the left compromise. I actually
don't have a big problem with that. Yeah, I agree with you. I think in the 2016 primary,
the best guy won. That was Donald Trump, the most reformer, you know, the candidate who would
basically challenge the system, took
an ax to the system, and ran on that platform.
And someone like him was still able to elevate all the way up to the presidency, I think
goes to show that the system still works in some capacity.
The system got him, though, because he had Fauci, he had Pompeo, he still had-
I mean, there are a lot of issues, obviously.
Oh, we had Bolton.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
But he still managed i mean there are a lot of issues obviously yes i'm saying that's what i'm saying but there's there but he still managed to win he was still the best guy for the job and he managed
to win and he was president of the united states so yeah and and so i i think trump did a net
positive job and he made a bunch of mistakes i think the main reason to vote for him now is his
revenge mission which is just like okay if you wanted real reform or revolution trump's your guy i mean his platform
is retribution i mean so i love it i think the media telling you how bad he is it makes you want
to question what if you've been indoctrinated to believe that he's like this horrible person i mean
i definitely think why is everyone telling you he's telling you he's bad he's this he's that
it's a little interesting that there's never any positive media coverage of him anyway never 98
negative obama was the inversion.
Obama blew up kids.
And they're like, remember when the worst scandal about Obama
was a tear on the suit? I'm like, I remember when he murdered that
16-year-old, but continue. I mean, he was only recently
added back to Twitter or Facebook. He's still
basically silenced by
big tech. I mean, Fox News is
barely featuring him.
It's the 2011
NDAA, man. The Smoot Munt. Oh, yeah. The definite barely featuring him it's the 2011 ndaa man the smooth uh smooth month oh yeah yeah yeah the
definite detention provision and and the propaganda provision you like you like kennedy though right
i mean he's better than biden i wouldn't say i'm a kennedy supporter but he's definitely a better
alternative kennedy is everything about kennedy is bad except for the fact that the establishment
doesn't like him there are a lot of issues.
What do you not like about him?
His position on guns, his position on climate change, his position on immigration, his position on bureaucracy in general. now in the election i want someone that is going to go that is going to get into office and make
substantive cuts to cabinet level bureaucracy so i want entire bureaucracies gone i want people
fired i want people to lose jobs because that's the first thing that whenever i people start
talking about cuts they're like oh the people that are going to lose their jobs. Yes, a lot of people.
A frigging load of people have to lose their jobs because the government is bloated and way too big.
So I want real cuts.
Cut.
Get rid of the Department of Transportation.
Get rid of HUD.
Get rid of the EPA.
Get rid of a big portion of cabinet level bureaucracies i mean i agree i
think you shouldn't be penalized for being a capitalist but i think if people don't want to
be lazy and sit at home play video games they should be a ubi let's i'm cool with you want
you giving them i'm cool give them ubi i'm cool with giving free money to people that are lazy
yes well i'm also cool with rewarding people that work hard but how do you then where does the money
come from to pay the lazy people well i mean unfortunately it probably comes from taxes
so you're gonna take that's not where taxes come that's not where money comes from in the first
place yeah i mean they're just creating money on debt but the general core concept there is
you are taking the savings of the hard working to give it to the people who refuse to work and we
know for a fact historically that just causes systemic collapse that that it's the it's the history of uh of of all these communist countries
what else is a solution i mean like i said i don't want to penalize people who work hard i think you
should be rewarded you work hard no taxes if you work okay but then the people that just don't want
to do anything they're going to go commit crimes they're going to do things right how do we stop
them from doing that you give them you got to give them free jail that's not being enforced anywhere look at california criminals reign supreme no no no
criminals ubi or or money to stay out of jail and that doesn't work and also we're talking about
ubi keep someone from committing a crime we're talking about hypothetically too you you you
didn't say oh you know what does work now and stuff you're We're talking about hypothetically too. You didn't say, oh, you know, what does work now and stuff.
We're talking hypothetically
because we don't have UBI right now either.
I'm open-minded.
I'm just saying to me
what resonated with me.
I'm open-minded to hearing everyone's views
and, you know,
making a good conclusion.
But I just feel like
what are we going to do to stop?
There's people getting robbed.
There's people,
all this stuff happening.
People aren't safe in certain places.
Arrest them.
Yeah.
Arrest them.
But that's not happening, dude.
So start to do it.
They're getting arrested.
They're just not getting held.
It's DAs.
But not even.
But like,
if you come to me and say,
okay, there's a lot of crime.
We have two solutions.
I can give the criminal your money
or I can arrest him.
I'd like arrest him.
So, you know,
if you're asking someone
to take an action,
I will ask for the arrest.
I understand.
I agree with you,
but there's no one being arrested.
Shoot the criminals.
I understand that.
Self-defense.
If it was up to me,
you'd be rewarded for doing good deeds.
And if you lose privileges,
if you do a bad deed.
But that's kind of what we got now.
So the issue is,
if there is no arrest happening
and you are proposing we take action,
right?
A new action to be taken.
Then how about we settle on arresting them?
I think people should feel safe. People are not feeling safe when they go to places like san francisco oakland their cars
getting broken into people are getting robbed do you think that we should legislate ought
i don't know what that is ought like oh you said you said people should people ought to feel safe
do you think that we should legislate things to the way that they ought to be yes i don't think that we can do that
well i i don't think that you can because it would be it would be great like people shouldn't
have to like suffer at all like people shouldn't i agree people should be able to send your
children out in the middle of the night and not have them worry about getting robbed and that's not reality that's that's just that's that's fantasy land
i mean like you you should send your kids out knowing that it's possible that there's but the
policies aren't going to change policies aren't going to change people are still going to vote
the same way they're going to same same people are going to be in there they're going to let
people off policies aren't going to change policies aren't going to change people the
problem you're talking about is not a policy problem. It's a people problem.
If people are violent in your
society, it's not a policy problem.
The problem is people. They should be penalized.
The solution is
probably going to have to be the boo.
I agree, but I'm just saying that's
not happening. Well, it has worked.
It has worked in the past. It's not impossible
to happen. I'm for it.
We know what policies will work to resolve the crime issue. It's not impossible to happen. I'm for it. We know what policies will work to resolve the crime issue.
It's not a complicated formula.
Bring back stop and frisk.
You know, bring back struggle.
No, stop and frisk is absolutely wrong.
Well, you're going to have to do something, obviously, to return back to...
I mean, you can't go on forever with this issue.
I lived in New York City during the Giuliani years and during Bloomberg.
It was a pretty safe place.
Much safer.
And the thing is, it was safe because they literally did violate people's rights to stop and frisk.
Why are you opposed to stop and frisk?
Because it violates the Fourth Amendment.
Clearly.
It's a violation of the Second and Fourth Amendment.
Considering how bad things are right now, it doesn't matter.
You wouldn't care. not even a little bit bro you're not going to be able to come to me and say crime is bad therefore the constitution is void never gonna happen i would rather see
a 18 year old young black man in the bronx can carry 12 guns if he wants to if he wants to
because second amendment is clear the right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed it
does not say beneath it based on your poverty level based on your race whether or not you
committed crimes i am i am partial to the argument made before me that there is due process and you
can have your rights taken from you like you can you can lose your freedom of movement and you get
put in a box if you commit a crime but what happened with stop and frisk was dudes who had
guns were being stopped solely on the idea that it's illegal to have a gun.
And then they started frisking people who did not have guns under the premise that some people who live near you do.
And I'm like, if the premise is unconstitutional and is used against a person who doesn't even
have a gun, you've used an unconstitutional action to violate the rights of someone not
even associated with the law you pass unconstitutionally in the first place. It is like two layers of psychotic, unconstitutional action to violate the rights of someone not even associated with the law you pass unconstitutionally in the first place it is like two layers of psychotic unconstitutional action
i think you're over exaggerating how many people's rights were violated in this i mean the bottom the
bottom line was the cities were much safer under giuliani new york city was you know crime was at
a decade's low um you know you didn't have people um you, homeless people in the streets. You didn't have people
violently... Homeless people has nothing
to do with stop and frisk.
It's part of the larger problem of
lawlessness and abandoning
the ability to enforce
basic laws and enforce
basic competence at that
level, at an administrative
leadership level.
In 2022, 15,102 stops were recorded.
In 2021, 8,947.
In 2020, 9,544.
2019 was 13,459.
11,000, 11,000, 12,000.
2015 was 22,000.
2014 was 45,000.
2013 was 191,000. 2012 was 532,000. 2011 was 685,000. 2014 was 45,000. 2013 was 191,000.
2012 was 532,000.
2011 was 685,000.
And the pretext for this was the Second Amendment.
That's just New York City, right?
That's just,
stop and first was a New York City policy.
And Bloomberg said explicitly
that it was being done in black neighborhoods
because that's where the crime was.
If you want to make that argument
and bring up the racial stuff, I'm actually interested i'm willing to hear it because
that bloomberg said he was doing it but ultimately where i stop is the second amendment says you have
a right to keep and bear arms new york it was ruled unconstitutional what they were doing and
barring people from getting weapons i do not even agree with uh cavavanaugh on his ruling on this, where he was like, but permitting should be allowed.
Nope.
Screw off.
The founding fathers knew, like, Halliburton has bombs.
They're a private company.
Okay?
These massive, multinational, military industrial complex companies, they are private entities with war machines and doomsday weapons.
Things we probably can't even think of and then the government comes between us and them and says you guys can't have a nine millimeter handgun
these guys can have nukes screw that when people during the the colonial period had had had frigates
had privateers they were corsairs they had grape shot they could fire cannons and decimate a seaside
town just one random guy that
was always allowed they would commission them the crown would be like hey i hear you got a warship
in the back i do like you want some money we want you to borrow it yeah can we borrow will you will
you will you fly a black flag and go disrupt french trade trade lines i'm like you got it
so that still exists today in that you have private military industrial complex companies
but back then you had individuals who were captains of big ships who ran their small you could call it a company
now it wasn't like a formal formal company with a company in a in a basic sense that never changed
and when the founding father said the rights keeping bare arms shall not be infringed
they're talking about the people the right of the people to keep in bare arms shall not be infringed
this is my problem with with stop and frisk outright. I get it.
You want to prevent crime?
I don't think you have a right to go up to someone and be like, you got a gun there, buddy?
Because we made those illegal even though the Constitution says they're not.
That's nonsense to me.
That being said, I think—
Well, the real issue is no one's allowed to carry on them.
Absolutely.
That's the real issue.
If you have a Second Amendment objection, your focus should be on that. And obviously
More guns. With the issue with stop
and frisk though, if you've reached
a point where your city
has gotten so bad, where
you can't go to work, where you can't take
the subway without fear of being
mugged, where you have a high probability of being
mugged or worse,
that becomes an issue. Here's a solution.
Everybody can have a gun.
Yeah.
And the problem solved.
But you still need law enforcement there.
There's no way of sure.
Sure.
But law enforcement doesn't and you need strong law enforcement doesn't show up to crimes.
Right.
Police show up after the fact.
And we do have an issue with most police encounters people have is over petty offenses not related
to crime.
The instance of a police officer chasing down a criminal is substantially lower than a cop stopping someone for jaywalking.
I still think we need law enforcement.
We absolutely do need someone to act as a neutral arbiter between conflicts.
There's a fight breaking out.
There's a robbery happening.
There should be someone you could call that we bestow an authority for specific reasons,
but they need to be held to a higher standard.
Now, when it comes to I shouldn't feel unsafe when I get on a train, there's a certain point where I say,
I can't control whether you feel safe or not. You walk through a dark alley, you're not going to
feel safe. But I also agree you should be able to have a gun or some kind of weapon. Then if you're
on a subway train and some guys walk up, you can say, back the F off and say, if you want to come at me, I have the ability to protect
myself from whatever it is you're doing. I firmly believe that if I think you look at the data,
law abiding citizens with guns are not going out and committing these crimes. The majority of gun
owners are law abiding, are not committing crimes. So why have we barred the people who don't commit
crimes from defending themselves from the people committing the crimes? It makes no sense.
I believe that if we were just outright be like, you can have guns and we're going to make it super easy to walk in.
You can buy one.
We would actually see a massive reduction in violent crimes.
I do think as a fair point, you'll probably see accidental discharges.
Well, how's the crime rate in Texas?
Like, so everyone has a gun in Texas.
No, no, they don't. Not everybody has a gun in texas no no they don't
not everybody has a gun i mean that's a trope about people having guns in texas i think texas just passed constitutional carry i'm just trying to compare the crime and the crime
rates but but texas is not a good example because texas actually had a had a lot i think training
requirement so if you want to get a handgun it was actually relatively difficult whereas west
virginia i think since then you walk into a
gun store and say i live here and they go here's your gun sir you got to fill out a federal
background check form some people get jammed up it takes it takes a while some people you get it
within 15 minutes but a lot easier in west virginia and west virginia's crime is below average
below below average crime here uh i learned this when i was uh 18 or so there was a jurisdiction
i can't remember where exactly it was.
It might have been in Michigan or Wisconsin.
They banned guns.
Crime went up 80%.
And they had an emergency session to unban guns.
Crime went back down.
Like, it's a fact growing up in Chicago.
They know.
They laugh.
Like, there's not going to be a cop to stop them.
You can't if if i call the cops and i say
a uh 510 uh olive skinned male came up to me brandished a firearm and took my wallet you know
what they're going to say to me we'll take a report have a nice day is anybody hurt have a
nice day that's it why they're not going to find the guy why aren't they using geo tracking like
you like you say you're on snapchat or whatever it says where you are so if a crime's committed technically any violent crimes committed
they'll know whatever cell phone was there right yep so why aren't they ever using that you cannot
use uh you cannot subpoena a phone company for the records of innocent people because someone
else may have committed a crime it just you can't violate my easy solution to solve some of these
crimes constitutional violation
I'm sure they use it
I was on the North End Damon in Chicago
and a guy mugged me
and they go okay we'll subpoena the phone records
of every person who was in that area
now you're violating the rights of 5,000 people
but they use it on certain cases for sure
if they really want to
if they don't care about that mugging
if it was the president getting mugged
if it was somebody important I think it's an aqua tyranny they don't care about that mugging, they care if it was the president getting mugged, they care if it was somebody important.
I think it's an aqua tyranny.
They don't care that these people are committing these crimes.
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all right let's read some super chats i'm not your buddy guy says people need to realize
uh should america fall to evil there is nowhere in the world you can escape to from either the
great eye in america or china i don't agree with that i don't i don't completely agree with that uh you just it's not gonna be fun put
that way waffle sensei says to the next super chatter hey you got to be quicker than that buddy
i'm not your guy friend says i beat him to the first chat lol you didn't unfortunately
i'm not your buddy guy once again the first super chatter does he super chat at like 805 it's 743 743 the
moment we put up the the placeholder for the show he goes in and he super chats so if you guys want
to beat him you got to get here 740 on the dot refreshing the timcast irl page as soon as it
goes up you got to get in there you got a super chat yeah 805 that's just like three hours late basically you might as well show up tomorrow just don't yeah exactly monday even i'm not your buddy guy
says as a canadian i know trudeau never would have tried what he did uh what he did to the
truckers if trump was president or president your influence goes beyond your borders and i pray
trump wins 2024 so he can purge this evil for i fear what will happen next anyways i won't be super chatting for a while oh no things are getting busier at my second job so
i will still watch this won't be live sadly cheers well i'm not your guy friend is your time to shine
if you show up on time every time you could be the first super chatter now that i'm not your
buddy guys bowing out he's had a good run here for a long time yes yeah clear call says you need
to get oliver anth Anthony on your culture show.
His song, Rich Men North of Richmond, is striking a chord across the world.
It is beautifully produced, well done.
And it's, you know, I was asking people about great works, because we can look throughout
history, we can play songs that are considered great works that stand the test of time.
Bohemian Rhapsody, man, one of the best songs ever written.
And I'm asking, like, where are the modern versions of that the songs that we
remember forever and uh they exist they exist i'm not saying they don't i'm just like what are they
i think this song is going to be uh it's it's i think this will be i don't it's not going to be
like bohemian rhapsody don't get me wrong because of the way the culture war especially is but i
think this song will will persist for a very very very long time in the memories of people who are involved in it.
I think people for a long time will be listening to it.
Basically what I'm trying to say.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
Young men are putting themselves six feet in the ground because all this damn country does is keep kicking them down.
You hear today's viral music video.
It was fantastic. It was very well done.
Everybody's super chatting.
Rich Men, North of Richmond. Amazing song going
viral. Working Man's Anthem.
I'm really curious to see if he
goes on tour or something like this.
He said that he's going to go on tour.
He said if you can't make it to
this next batch of shows.
Richmond has a big, whatever we're going to call this,
genre. RVA?
RVA is having a music festival
like late August.
They should just book him right now
and have him go on.
Where is that?
Now's their best chance.
If they wait,
it's going to be too expensive.
Is he in Richmond?
I can't tell from his Instagram.
He posts pictures in
what I would call Southern Virginia
and then also pictures in West Virginia.
So he's obviously sort of
in an Appalachia range.
We got bad news, everybody. Crazy Savior says says looks like the lk-99 room temperature
superconductor has more or less been disproven it was a distraction that's what i thought too
hunter biden farted and they went super science and we were like oh look at that
steven steven say says reagan's sdi was testing space- lasers. Yes, it's the Strategic Defense Initiative.
And what they wanted was satellites that could
blow up ICBMs in mid-air.
If they were building that
back in the 80s, what do they have now?
True.
Firesky15 says,
Tim, heard of the new song? It's going big.
Yes, Firesky.
Everyone has super cheddas to make sure we knew
about that song. And i'm glad i'm
glad spread the word listen to it bite on itunes wherever you can yeah look it up mark kiley says
today on scott adams show he talked about a source of his who saw miles of burned cars with bodies
bodies stop in them bodies still in them so the death count count in Hawaii is likely higher. Yeah, they're talking about pushing
100 now.
They said thousands are missing?
I mean, it seems crazy.
That's why I'm thinking, like, I get
why people think this may have been an act of war.
This was the equivalent of a bomb
dropping on this place. The fires were so insane.
Yeah, I mean, those images looked like,
as we said before, it looked like it was
hit by a nuclear bomb. This is the worst I've seen Hawaii look, I mean, those images looked like, as we said before, it looked like it was hit by a nuclear bomb.
This is the worst I've seen Hawaii look, I mean, in history since Pearl Harbor.
So it's incredible.
I wouldn't put it past anything that at this point, you know, that this might be something other than the official narrative we're receiving.
Directed energy weapons.
That's interesting.
ER says, I was on the side of the island with our with without power since monday night and i think it was started from a car trying
to cut across because traffic was backed up all day in town from down power lines so a car accident
happened or something i don't know maury says in response to that video of that woman the wedding
ring could be a white monkey used probably for. This is a thing they do in China.
A lot of people are pointing out they have a thing called white monkey
actors. That's creepy,
dude.
What is it? It's
Bai...
Oh, Bai Huizhou? I forgot what it was.
Bai Cao.
Well, that's white left.
Bai Cua.
White monkey actor is something different.
I'll look it up. But it would be by something i think where are we at i'm not your buddy guy says multiple fires in canada were started by arsonists just google
rcmp arrests arsonists then check the dates perhaps you know i think arson obviously but
i think a majority of the fires are just a lightning
storm because you could track the lightning storm before even any of the news started
unless they have weather machines that can make lightning storms you know who knows possibly or
some lasers harp baby yeah or whatever it is they're doing in antarctica who knows who knows
yeah damian master says yo i talked to the high level ibm guy who told me in the 90s our
government commissioned a computer simulation about what would happen if hypothetical satellite
if a hypothetical satellite rained radiation down in a city from space the devastation was unreal
what movie was it where they had the microwave beam like driving like melting people or something
microwave beam yeah it was like some kind of doomsday weapon.
There was, in G.I. Joe, they had the rod from God.
You know that, the tungsten rod in space?
Yes.
And they blow up London.
I love that how in the G.I. Joe lore,
London is just gone.
Like millions dead.
Brian B. says,
YAL-1 is a 2010 megawatt laser
the Air Force tested on a Boeing 747 with a multi-mile range.
New Raytheon H-4 is a pickup truck bed mounted with a 10 kilowatt laser.
A megawatt laser.
That's nuts.
Jeez.
Mitch the Engineer says 18-year-olds identifying as conservatives by what standards?
I get idolizing Andrew Tate, but supporting abortion and taxing the rich is conservative compared to the app to absolute
communism the overton window has shifted that far yep yeah i don't know we could probably pull
the study i haven't done it yet and they usually list the questions they asked to determine it so
it might just be like they voted for trump you know what i mean they said they would vote for
trump if they could and then the left goes that means they're far right you can be like you can ask people ask young this is this study you
want to do go to 12th graders and say um do you hate trump and when they go not really be like
okay all right and then you can be like 98 of 12 uh 12th graders uh identified as far right
the question that was asked was
do you hate donald trump are you a communist no far right that's actually we should do that we
should do that we should get someone to go to a campus and ask people are you a communist and when
they say no check the box for far right yes and then we'd be like 100 of the college students
were far right we were shocked to find this i I would love to do that. Let's get
some people to do that.
Let's get Elad and you. We'll go do it.
We'll go do it. Yeah, it'll be fun.
Are you a communist? No. You're far right.
Antifa polling. Are you a communist?
No. Nazi.
Self-identified as Nazis.
And then it's like, the questions
that were asked were you know are
you a communist and they said no daniel domicile says conservatives need to go full nuclear trump
tate 2024 the first muslim vp let's go that's a terrible idea i mean i like it yeah i'd vote
trump tate yeah i would i don't know i'd vote for a lot of. Yeah, I would. I don't know.
I'd vote for a lot of things other than Democrats.
I don't think Biden's going to be the nominee.
I agree.
I think Newsom.
Yeah, most likely.
Cody McPherson says, Changing culture today.
I had an awesome workout listening to All That Remains
and wearing my The ATF is shirt.
Remember, if you're not fit, you're going to die.
That's right.
I was in the gym for two hours today wow just hanging out checking your phone yeah just hanging out
cardio man thomas tjg says every time you you do your intro reminded of that one episode where you
said we're about to be demonetized take it away luke and he goes off i think that was the epstein one i'm not sure but i was like we were talking about it beforehand
and then i was like oh they're definitely going to demonetize this episode we talk about that and
i was like i'll just let you intro it and then i was like welcome ladies and gentlemen now we're
about to be demonetized luke and then luke just like it goes off that's fun
what do we got barney boyle says tim i don't know why anyone would think
our own government would allow hawaii to be attacked right as we're itching for a conflict
with an asian adversary if that were the case though they'd immediately say china did it they'd
be like we believe uh you know incendiary device launched by our enemies instead they're saying
that's crazy why would you think that's happening you're crazy yeah you so crazy yeah
you you gotta calm down so crazy caleb piranha piranha van says hi tim have you heard about
operation popeye when the u.s government seeds clouds with silver in the vietnam war to extend
monsoon season and do you think that we could be doing something like this in china right now
weather warfare i don't know about uh operation popeye but we have other ways of uh cloud seeding we can use infrared lasers
to do it yeah so this is something that's been around for about a decade or longer where i think
that the research was done in germany they use infrared lasers to excite molecules causing them
to attract to each other which then condensed and something like that i don't form clouds yeah
so we we have easier ways of cloud seeding other than yeah you know 70 year old 50 year old technology it's also a monsoon season in china anyways so
yeah but i do think that is a powerful war weapon yeah if you can use weather then on the world
stage they can only accuse you of the craziest things granted when it comes to war doesn't
matter what what is true or not right like when the u.s is like oh it's a war ukraine's fighting russia russia's not thinking that russia's like
the u.s is fighting us yeah yeah it doesn't matter what we claim they're out they're at war
raymond g stanley jr says tim i disagree pardon them all it is better than that 10 guilty persons
escape than one innocent person suffer it's's been two plus long years, bud. Agreed.
Completely agree. At this point, yes.
Commutation and pardoning for all. Good point.
There are people in there
who have been held without charge or trial for
two years. Which is insane.
Absolutely nuts. And there are a few groups who are actually
standing up for these people. There's Patriot Freedom
Project, which is really good,
but aside from them, you know,
these people don't have the help,
don't have the advocacy that they should be getting, you know, so, you know, more people
have to step up. That's another thing that more people should put pressure on their congress
people to talk about more. But, you know, these victims still languish behind bars in many cases
in the DC gulag, as they call it and they're not getting
the representation or the um you know just sort of the public representation that they should be
getting for not committing any crimes at all in many cases or you know just having a misdemeanor
largely against them charles e says speaking of pro-american musicians tim and phil when are you
going to talk to john schaefer of the metal band Iced Earth and Sons of Liberty?
He was arrested on January 6th and his life and the band have been on hold since.
He probably has to get out of jail first.
Is he in jail?
I'm not sure what the situation is.
He did go inside the Capitol and he was in, I don't know if he was in a fight or anything like that but there was some some
pictures of him maybe in a scuffle with the police but um yeah i i don't uh i don't know john
um it was a bad idea to go into the capitol uh-huh yeah the unfortunate thing is there's
there's that video where the cop takes a selfie with people like the cops opened the door for
us we're waving them in so yeah in hindsight it was a bad idea but in the moment no one could tell what was going on
it's it's just the look the the federal law enforcement that are arresting people who
walked around like outside these are evil evil people they know that yeah that they're targeting
innocent people it's heinous you want to make an argument about the riot? Make an argument.
People who are punching and fighting cops,
they shouldn't have done that.
People who turn on the barricades,
they shouldn't have done that.
Ray Epps advocating for this stuff,
she should be charged for incitement.
But there were people who just walked around on a lawn,
and there's law enforcement who are going after them
knowing that's all they did
because they are depraved, evil,
and psychotic sociopathic individuals.
And this is a huge problem in our country. They should enforce it. They're evil, evil, and psychotic sociopathic individuals. And this is a huge problem in our country.
That's all I can say.
They should enforce it.
They should just...
They're evil though, dude.
They're evil.
I know, but there should be like some billionaire dude who's like, yo, I want what's right.
I'm going to give you money.
Just quit your job.
And we're just not going to enforce this.
We're not going to arrest innocent people.
It's like going to a demon that likes to murder people and being like, I will pay you to not
do that.
And they're like, but I enjoy doing it.
And you're like, but if I give you money, will you stop? They that and they're like but I enjoy doing it and you're like but if I give you money will you stop
they're like no because I like doing it it's like okay
these law enforcement guys that are going
after innocent people they're
probably earmuffs
family members earmuffs for your kids they're probably
going home after they arrested people they're probably
arresting these people who they know are
innocent and then going home and beating off while thinking
about it and there's just still so much that
we don't know about that day.
How many Ray Epses were in the crowd?
I mean, that was just the tip of the iceberg.
A lot.
A lot, right, absolutely.
I was at Occupy Wall Street, and every type of event like this has tons of,
is cheating with underrated.
It's like all different agencies.
And then one guy is like, I would like to advocate for this behavior.
And the other guy goes, you should do something worse. And he he goes that's a good idea you should too and then they both
arrest each other and they're like oh you were you were fbi i was cia how do we not know who's
starting the violence is that all the agents they're they're starting the violent acts there's
a there's a lot of peaceful people there we know that i'm not saying there's not it seems that way
the fbi has we've had fbi informants testify that they were in touch with people who were like oh yeah i'm going to this in the lead-up so either they knew it was dangerous and they were
like but no one should send in a national guard or do anything or they wanted it to be violent
and bad like those are the only explanations absolutely and what explains the actions of
capitol hill police that day i mean we still haven't really gotten full answers as to why
the innocent people that are still in jail why isn't there an outpour
of people
descending on this trying to get justice
How are they allowed?
They're being silenced too
Most people don't know that there are people still in jail
They don't know that they were arrested
With no charges
Most people aren't aware of what's going on
They're not allowed to talk about it
If you watch this show and stuff like that you're getting information aren't aware of what's going on because like they're not allowed to talk about it yeah if if
well if you watch this show and and stuff like that you're you're getting information that the
your your average person just doesn't get because the mainstream media doesn't talk about these
things they didn't talk about the hunter biden laptop they didn't talk about the people that
get arrested at january january 6th they don't they don't get into any kind of specifics because
they don't want the average person to know about those things.
It just seems insane that there's people
that are committing armed robberies, that are
doing violent crimes, that are serving less time
than people. It does seem
insane, doesn't it?
Almost like it's actually
happening. It really does. You're right.
It does seem insane. What's insane is that
the current occupant of the White House got 81
million votes. We're not allowed to talk about that i mean it's like oh you are i just think
that republicans got outplayed heavily uh ballot harvesting uh rule changes executive action still
never see a biden sign anywhere i would never see people or a biden bumper sticker you will see
people saying f trump you'll see the f trump stickers the f stump f trump signs i did get
three mail and i did get three
mail and i did get a couple mail-in uh ballots to my place with multiple ballots but i don't know
i'm gonna read one more super chat you do know the 75 76 million trump voters were 100 authentic
though let's read let's read one more jason hutchinson says tim get jacob angeli chancely
on the show dude is awesome he can't leave yet yeah the moment he can he's welcome to come on the show i hit him up right when he got i wasansley on the show. Dude is awesome. He can't leave yet.
Yeah.
The moment he can, he's welcome to come on the show.
I hit him up right when he got out.
I was like, bro, you got to come out.
He's like, I can't.
I was like, okay, well, whenever you can, let's have him on.
I'd be really interested in that.
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Right on.
Yeah, I just want to thank everybody.
It's been a really enlightening time.
Hopefully, you know, the light prevails in the end for innocent people that are being they're suffering.
I don't I don't like that. I think we want to bring justice to people that really deserve justice
and people that really had good intentions should not be suffering,
who were just wanting to live and have liberty and have a better country.
I think it's unfair if some of them are suffering.
I appreciate you bringing awareness.
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