Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #839 GA Posts Trump Indictment BEFORE Grand Jury Wraps, SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY w/JW Gibbons

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join JW Gibbons to discuss Georgia accidentally publishing charges against Trump before the Grand Jury convened, CNN publishing a misleading headline accusing Trump's team of breaching voting systems, the rise of mass looting & smash and grabs in major cities, & China testing humans in order to create super humans like Captain America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We have a major story tonight. This may have some historical significance. The Georgia D.A. published the indictments against Donald Trump while the grand jury is still in session. They have not convened yet. They have not come to determination. Yet somehow Reuters got a hold of the charges already. The assumption here is the DA in Georgia, obviously anti-Trump, already knows what they're charging him with. And the grand jury for show.

It's a trick. Now, many are calling for Trump to file a lawsuit motion to dismiss on constitutional grounds that this is well, it's tainted. I mean, this is shocking. Earlier today, I tweeted out the story from Reuters, breaking news. They're set to charge Trump. The documents have been released. And then shortly after they removed those documents and said, whoops, but they're already planning on indicting him. We'll talk about that. We've got a couple other stories. Joe Biden, when asked while he's vacationing, mind you, during one of the greatest ecological disasters in this country's history, the wildfires in Maui, the worst fires in 100 years, he's asked, what do you have to say?

He says, no comment. He is completely abandoned to the people of Maui. But don't worry. He'll go to Ukraine. He'll send them all your money. So we'll talk about that. Plus, we got some sillier news, too, I guess. Elon Musk apparently, did he show up to Zuckerberg's house?

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So I'm Joel Gibbons. I'm the host of Man vs. Street on YouTube, brought to you by The Daily Caller. And I interview people about cultural and political events happening in the world. And a couple jokes here and there too. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. This should be a lot of fun. We also hannah claire hanging out hey i'm hannah claire i'm a writer for timcast.com i'm happy to be here everybody yeah i am thank you hannah

claire ian cross on it what's up everybody happy monday night middle of august coming at you how's serge what's happening brother hey i'm serge.com pleasure to see you guys and uh let's just get on the show this is this is a huge. I think when they look back on this period, this will be a key component of it. From Politico, Georgia court posts then removes document detailing charges against Trump. The document which Reuters first reported came from the Fulton County Court,

listed 12 felony counts and one serious felony count for violating Georgia's RICO Act. Here's the thing. The grand jury is still in. They haven't convened. How could they have these documents ready to go? Many, they're suggesting that the Georgia D.A. planned to charge Trump regardless of what the grand jury actually did. Politico says the county court in Georgia, where Donald Trump is expected to be charged this week, briefly posted and quickly removed a document on Monday detailing several charges against the former president over his alleged election interference in the state in 2020. The document, which Reuters first reported, came from the Fulton County Court Court includes Trump's name and lists the case status as open. It is dated August

14th and time stamped 12 39 p.m. The document lists 12 felony counts and a serious felony count for violating the RICO Act. This is crazy. I think we have the document right here. This is it. Case information state of Georgia versus

Donald John Trump. You got the case number, the filing date. I'm just going to say this right now. If there is a filing date on a court document listing charges, I can say definitively they filed charges against Trump. Now, I think we can get semantic semantic or a bit pedantic and say perhaps filing a charging document is different from literally bringing charges against trump but i think the fact they did this is telling and no one is going to trust them over this they've pulled this document down they're issuing no comment so i don't i don't i don't know what to think about this but it certainly seems

i don't know man i i'm calling it seditious conspiracy that they're they were working to take down trump the grand jury which is supposed to be the normal process to bring about indictments is meaningless fake and they were going to do this anyway because their real goal is to cheat in the 2024 election so just as the common man here i'm a little i just don't know the process very well but a grand jury is going to get together and they're going to talk about what to bring, what charges to bring. And then after they decide, they'll build a paper like what we have here, this case information document. But you're saying that the grand jury hadn't even decided yet. And the document was already prepared.

The grand jury just finished hearing some testimony today. They're still in hearing evidence. So, look, again, i'm not a lawyer um but what i'm seeing from a lot of high profile personalities and people who are literally lawyers is that it it appears that they've filed charges against trump with the grand jury still in session well the thing that's crazy to me about it is even if you're gonna like indict trump ultimately if you're gonna do what you're doing this is a vicious thing you're trying to over do this election interference as of this what this is what would it be why would you release

this document and then pull it back like why would you already mess up like you're everybody doesn't believe you even more now when you come out and you do these things and now you're going to like put out like some kind of massive mess up like this it could be that they just want to be like look how much control we have like Like they're just dangling it. They're like, you can't stop us. You think they're just being arrogant? I don't think they are, but that would be one possibility

that they're like, yo, we're just going to commit crimes in plain sight now and you can't stop us. I worked in politics. I don't think they're that smart to be quite honest with you. That's like they get,

they had this plan and I actually, well, they could have been, they could have had this whole plan to, you know, completely destroy Trump already. But, and they they messed up that's another thing that politicians do all the time they mess up consistently like we see biden do it pretty much every day but like i just don't understand why they would already release this and then pull it back like

i mean well they screwed up obviously it can't it can't be out there what i wonder is what trump's legal team is going to do in response right because to be to to basically imply no matter what he is getting charged uh really raises questions about due process. He's not even being indicted by a grand jury. He's being indicted by the lead prosecutor in Georgia, which is crazy. Mike Cernovich said Fulton County D.A. indicted Trump under Georgia's RICO law. Reuters obtained the documents. The grand jury is still meeting. The law isn't being followed. This is state sponsored lynching. Mike's a lawyer a lawyer i mean so i can only imagine he recognizes these documents but perhaps there is some kind of uh argument i'm trying to i'm trying to you know be reasonable

here maybe this is a list of potential charges that are being considered i don't know but i i don't i don't know how they pop like it seems at the if i was going to be nice to these people which i absolutely would never be they have a list of potential charges that they said whoops over and published yeah like it's like this is what we want to charge them with let's hope the grand jury goes for it so we'll have the document ready to go as soon as they say yes then we'll publish it well either way they probably like how we do these things well how i used to do this and be right two things and be like this is what is probably going to happen and one of these two things might happen either way they click that button first

like that was the first one they click so they're no matter what they say there's going to be a little edge to like they think this indictment's coming in the way they think it's going to come but then reuters blamed uh the georgia court system they said oh the court this document was up and then they took it down and because this link you can see in the URL is a Reuters Foundation link. So they're saying, it's not that we messed up as reporters, it's that the court messed up. Are we not talking, I thought we were talking about the court system, like trying to subvert them, not Reuters. Correct. That's what I think.

I mean, I think both, right? Like if Reuters, who published the story first, is saying the court system had it up and then took it down. That's interesting because then Reuters knew to look for the document, which why would it be out if the jury hasn't convened? That's a really good point. How did Reuters get tipped off? The document was published unless it's, it's possible that because the grand jury is in, they have a reporter reporter just sitting there hitting refresh nonstop on

this court listing page. It's totally reasonable. They probably got a tip. Well, no Reuters actually, I could be totally wrong about this. It's been a very, very long time since I had anything ever to do with Reuters.

This is like 10 years ago when I knew a guy who worked there. My understanding is they actually archive and sell legal documents. Oh, really? Yeah. So, I mean, this might be right up their alley to say, hey, look, this document just dropped.

And then GA was like, how did this get published? Whoops. Immediately took it down. Here's what I gotta say. If this document was just a legitimate document pertaining to the potential charges Trump is facing, they'd leave it up.

Yeah, there's nothing to be afraid of. And they would just say, this is the list of charges that the grand jury is currently deliberating on. I think, look, man, I'm not giving these people the benefit of the doubt. If I was gonna, if you were to ask me, what is the reasonable solution the simple system Occam's razor uh they pre-planned charging Trump a long time ago and the grand jury doesn't matter and Georgia I feel like just has it out for Trump Georgia's I feel like been the thorn in his side for so long so I'm not really

that's the other chart the other cases seem a little bit uh more shallow too this seems to be the big one I think this is the one that people are really worried about. I think this is the case that could really, like, destroy it. Well, the fabric of the government, as we kind of know it. But why do you think that it's just like this is the one that could put Trump in actual jail, right? That's what that's what people have been telling me, at least. But maybe what do you think? It's not so much that this is the one that can put him in jail.

It's that this is the one where there are zealous cult members who want to put him in jail regardless dc is scared to remand trump new york is scared to remand trump trump the sheriff in georgia already said he's getting that mug shot they're they look man this is amazing republicans they're conservative district attorneys all over the country they do nothing and now you've got this novel reading of the law coming out of Georgia where they say, we are going to indict the former president and the current front runner for the Republican Party. And Republicans are going, oh, gee, golly. Yeah.

And they're doing nothing. And I think Georgia wants this more than else. They're one of the swing states. So Democrats in Georgia want Trump to be indicted there and solidly locked down as a blue state for 2024. The other thing that's interesting about this, and we were looking at the indictments, this is the fourth one, right? This is number four.

I think every time... It's the fourth jurisdiction to issue indictments. I think it's like the 78th or something. Oh, good, good. So I think every time they've done this issuance, like over the... I think every time he's fundraised, he's just lost money each time. So I'm wondering how much money he gets off of this one. And if that really is showing that his support's going to go down. Well, it's an issue of how much money do

people have. So it's not that people aren't supporting him anymore. It's that a guy who gets 100 bucks a week in extra cash already gave it to Trump. Can't give it again. Yeah, I think everyone has a limit in terms of what they can give in a political cycle, especially, you know, a year and a half out from the election or less than a year and a half. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious what they're doing. They are. They're one trying to remove Trump's name from the ballot, trying to put him in jail to stop him from running and saddling him with so much legal debt and paperwork that he's unable to run anyway. This is cheating in an election period.

No question. You can remember this. I hope in 100 years, if they stumble upon this podcast, we said it. They're cheating. They are targeting the front runner for the Republican Party with the most support who's set to win the primary in all of these ridiculous ways with charges that are clearly bunk. And they're trying to reframe and rewrite history to justify it. Yeah. I mean, Trump's going to have to campaign completely around when he has court appearances, right?

All of 2024, which is crazy to me. On the other hand, he has such strong support from his base that like, if anyone could, it's Trump. It seems crazy that they're going to these lengths to sort of slow him down. But today it seems farther than that. It's not just like meddling and trying to make it hard for him. It's they've actually decided that he is going to get indicted no matter what. And that that should make all of the voters, you know, of both parties in Georgia angry.

What do you guys think of this idea? So we threw this around the other day at my office. Biden completely like washes Trump like what's it called? He pardons Trump. Trump loses all that momentum he gets from the indictments all of a sudden the Santa's is back in the game What do you guys think about that? Like if Biden decided that you know, but then he might be facing the Santa's so it's a terrible move on his part But like like a curveball throwing in there

Like what if he came out of nowhere decided to pardon Trump and all of a sudden Trump's dead in the water at that point I feel like I saw a video of the Santaanta serving eggs to people and not making eye contact with anybody like he just looked like he was ashamed and people like i'm just here for the eggs one guy people do that guy's he already lost the race in my opinion i don't think he has any chance what is their campaign doing that like you're gonna go have him serve eggs after he's getting dogged all over the place like uh it doesn't make him look like a cool guy i know he should have been out touring like ram swami is doing like he's doing the basement camp i mean it seems like he's doing a basement campaign.

I haven't heard from him. I want to read this statement here. This is from Trump's lawyers. This was not a simple administrative mistake. Trump's attorneys, Drew Findling and Jennifer Little, said in a statement, a proposed indictment should only be in the hands of the district attorney's office. Yet it somehow made its way to the clerk's office and was assigned a case number and a judge before the grand jury even deliberated. Oh, okay, that's false then.

This is seditious conspiracy against the United States happening in your face in real time. So do you file a lawsuit now against the district attorney? File a lawsuit. I know, who files it? I mean, can you also, what court is going to give Trump a fair trial in this country? That's the real question, right?

He can be indicted in any state. Obviously, Georgia has already made a decision about how they feel about him. Like, that's the problem here. He's a judge already. That's why you have a federal government. So when states go rogue like this, you can take care of them. Unless it's a mafia cult and they're working for the big guy

and they're doing exactly what he wants. Joe Biden's federal government? Yeah, Joe Biden's federal government that's already got multiple indictments against Joe Biden's chief political opponent who is polling above him. I mean, to your point, no, I don't think Biden would ever pardon Trump

because I don't think his base would be okay with that at all. I mean, he is their incumbent candidate, so he's their front runner in a sense, but he's not popular and he's old and nobody really wants him there. So if he doesn't have enough grace within the party to pardon Trump and come off looking like, oh, you're standing up for justice because a lot of his supporters believe no matter what Trump should go to jail, they can't even really name what charges they think he should be convicted on. That's there are so many you know it's like throwing pasta to all and seeing what will stick like whatever whatever works they'll agree there's not a single conservative

republican libertarian or otherwise prosecutor in georgia who is going to go after what what this is i mean this is at the bare minimum probable cause for a conspiracy investigation yeah and aren't they charging him for some Rico stuff too anyway so it's like a conspiracy with a conspiracy like they're doubling up also like isn't Kemp the Republican governor gonna say something I mean I don't even know what to say if he has he been charged or not because they listed the charge like but he's not the grand jury hasn't convened yet so or hasn't decided on charges yet so what's the process here do we who do you we're supposed to be the greatest country on earth like we're supposed to have the best legal system and this is the best like this is what we're dealing with right now like in the middle of an election cycle like

but i think that's why we have to say like georgia is a swing state this is a political move on behalf of all democrats in Georgia, right? If they can be the ones to get charges to stick against Trump to actually convict Trump first, they would love that. That would lock down Georgia as a blue state in 2024. I mean, this is strategic and they're going to, you know, disrespect justice to achieve their political means. It's it's feels like it's a it's Super Bowl or like a football game, right? They just want to see their team win. The crazy thing is that apparently the DA's office, the Fulton County Court Clerk's Office referred to a quote,

fictitious document that has been circulated online as if to argue the document isn't actually from them and it's being shared randomly. Yet Reuters has Georgia court website briefly publishes removes document about potential Trump charges. It's a pretty serious allegation from them if they're saying Reuters fabricated a document. And that's what's being circulated online. Wow, that's a bold claim. Right? That's their defense.

Well, here's the story. Either there's a seditious conspiracy against Donald Trump using the court system or Reuters fabricated the news to smear opponents of Donald Trump. And Reuters is a wire service. So like it's where a lot of news originates everywhere. If they're the ones fabricating news, that would be deeply concerning. So should Reuters file a lawsuit against the person who's claiming that they are defamation? I mean, maybe. Yeah.

Just a lawsuit after a lawsuit it's like lawsuits just for media because these lawsuits don't get resolved for years so like we're just sitting here so we can freak out about it while they just keep doing the same stuff it's insane like and if you look at like what we're going to impeach biden now what's going to happen then is that process going to go through that's another what that's kind of a lawsuit i guess not the same thing all i want to talk about is graphene and i'm talking about all i want to talk about is fuel i want to talk about energy cost because if we want to circumvent a revolution a violent or revolution we need to make energy cheaper we need to make fuel cheaper i know politics i mean we should talk about it only reason for it's it's one of the strongest reasons for revolution and civil unrest lack of

access to food water shelter etc but it's not the only reason i mean political instability of course even when there is food available but it does tend to be food and and of course energy i want to point this out too because we have this from atlanta news first that's interesting august 10th this is being highlighted much of these stories we have an announcement fulton d.a willis launches fundraising website yeah the d.a oh the d.a launched a fundraising website to make money at the same time these indictments are pre-published we should check that we should check the receipts on that i don't know when that comes out but i'm sure there's going to be a pretty penny in there i was trying to track down this is she running for re-election i was trying to

track this down but i think she has a quote where she's like yes we've we've really accomplished what we meant to or something like she uses the word accomplished you want to be like what do you mean you had a goal and you achieved it that doesn't sound right it's not like i want to i want to uh pull up this story here from cnn let's talk about this exclusive georgia prosecutors have messages showing Trump's team is behind voting system breach. Are you guys familiar with this story at all? No. What do you think that headline means, Ian? What does that headline mean?

Tell me what you think Trump did. Behind voting system breach? It sounds like they went into voting machines and either stole code or observed something they shouldn't have observed. So messages showing trump's team is behind a voting system breach you're saying it sounds like trump's team broke into the voting systems and stole codes of it yes you want to know what the real story is yeah i'd love to account an election official in coffee county invited trump's legal teams he his lawyers he'd hired to come and inspect voting machines.

And the messages they have are Trump's lawyers saying, we've been invited down to Coffee County by one of the election officials to take a look at the machines. And CNN titled it that way. Yeah, the word breach then is a misnomer. Could even be defamatory. It sounds like maybe a voting system observation but that wouldn't get clicks so what's happened now is people in the state are arguing that the election official did not have the authority to allow trump's lawyers to come and inspect the the

machines therefore it was an illegal breach of their voting systems and that trump's team was behind it so i saw this it was actually actually Brian Krasenstein who tweeted it. And he said, you know, here's the story from CNN. Trump's team was behind it. And I was like, wow, I got to know what this is. But I tell you what, every time I hear a psychotic story about Trump being some criminal mastermind, you read a couple paragraphs and you realize it's all fake news. And what did I find?

You know what CNN, the best thing CNN could do is they wrote written invitation with quotes. They then later say in the article, they've not actually reviewed the substance of the invitation or the letter itself, only communications that confirm it was provided to Price, Carrick and Sullivan Strickler employees. Kice, Carrickllivan strickler are lawyers lawyers were provided with a quote written invitation by an election official to go down and inspect voting machines incredible this is the this is a basis of his his indictment in georgia that's the whole base not the whole basis but they're arguing that the da has this and it is

a component of the charges that are being brought against Donald Trump. It's amazing. I mean, it's hard not to look at it as just complete desperation, right? They want him to be guilty so badly that they'll just make up nonsense. This is all misleading. I mean, you were saying before, like, has he been charged or indicted? Being charged means that the DA says that there's enough evidence to prosecute you. So the DA really believes there is something on Trump.

But now we need the grand jury to say, yes, we believe there's enough to prosecute. Right. And that just doesn't happen. In fact, Georgia doesn't need the grand jury. Apparently, they say we have enough no matter what you say. And that's kind of insane, especially the grand jury. Look how they write this. They write.

This is amazing. On January 1st, 2021, days ahead of the January 7th voting system breach, Catherine Freese, an attorney working with Giuliani, Sidney Powell and other Trump allies shared a written invitation. They put it in quotes again. What does that mean? That someone called it a written invitation. But there's maybe suggesting that it wasn't. And if you go and dig through the story, there was an election official who there's two election officials. One opened the door and let him in, got in trouble. And then one provided the invitation to examine voting systems

in Coffee County with a small group of Trump allies. That group included members of Sullivan Strickler, a firm hired by Trump's attorneys to examine voting systems in the small, heavily Republican Georgia County, according to text messages obtained by CNN. That same day, Price sent a letter of invitation to Coffee County, Georgia, to former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Carrick, who was working with Giuliani. Okay, so to clarify, I don't know that, they say Strickler's a firm. I know that Frice is an attorney when it said Frice, Strickler, and what's the other name? Carrick, who was working with Giuliani, blah, blah, blah. Frice then notified operatives who carried out the breach and others working directly with Giuliani that show Trump's team had secured written permission.

OK, well, hold on a minute. How come they over and over again saying this article that had an invitation and permission? Yet they call it an illegal breach. You read like they said they sent an invitation. So was that in quotes like that element of it like they said look at this it says freist then notified operatives who carried the coffee county breach and others working directly with giuliani that trump's team had secured written permission the texts show cnn has not reviewed the substance

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What is it? Legal technology solutions. Okay. So it is, it is not necessarily the employees are lawyers. One of them was a lawyer. Just to clarify, because I said there were lawyers in a law firm. That could be wrong. All right.

Either way, CNN is clearly lying to you by burying the core elements of the story and leading with trump breached voting systems and that quote is just crazy like what like the written invitation in quotes as though that's not exactly what they say later in the thing that they were invited and they don't have they don't have a letter so they can't even prove it or are they implying that the election official who is probably Republican, if he's in a heavily Republican county, was rolling out like a written invitation like he wanted Trump's people to be there. He's giving them preferential treatment. He's he's he's part of this conspiracy.

Frise. I mean, that's what I think CNN is implying with this. I think they're making it sound like if me and Tim went into a restaurant and I was like, Tim, please take whatever you want off of the bar. And he's like, oh, OK. And I'm like, I invite you to take anything you want and then he takes it he'd be the one that would get in trouble for stealing

then you maybe would say that I was conspiring with him so I'd be the price in that situation I think that's the angle they're going for but if they didn't know that it was a crime and they were invited in by price to go check it out then they're not on the hook if they didn't know I mean as far as I know I don't think so I can't believe this is an exclusive this is so thin like they use it it's the word exclusive

but they haven't reviewed anything somebody told us but we can't confirm any of it yeah we got some texts that said it happened so we're gonna write a story that it happened and the way they frame it it's like there's like a trailer out there of a bunch of wires going to and the trump team are hacking into the voting machine so like it's like if these if these individuals it's a uh hampton and let's see who else was it kathy latham if they were in the wrong in letting trump's team into this the story should be that election officials were in the wrong and trump's team mistakenly entered a presuming that the invitation was legitimate. I mean, what are you supposed to do when you have two election officials that are like,

hey, you can come in here and do your thing? You're like, OK, who are you supposed to ask? Especially if that's your client, right? Like you're like, cool, thanks. This is what we're supposed to be. No, I'm saying election officials from Georgia told Trump's lawyers, you're good. Who are the lawyers supposed to ask if not the election officials working at this place? I have no idea. Yeah. The Democrats who are in charge of the state,

the fake Republicans who are in charge of the state who hate Trump. Or they're supposed to know if it's legal or illegal. And Georgia is saying these officials didn't have the authority. But has Georgia told us who does have the authority to authorize this or not authorize it? Or they're just saying we can't say, but that person was definitely in the wrong. Like, I don't understand what what the game plan is here how are you supposed to move forward with investigations like this if no one knows who's in charge except you can still get in trouble or i think i i think this was bait and the trump camp fell for it they say at the bottom latham who also serve as a fake elector from georgia after the after the election has come under scrutiny for her role in the coffee county

breach after surveillance video showed she allowed unauthorized outsiders to spend hours examining voting systems there so she's the one who broke the rules and i think what they mean by allowed is that she opened the door and people walked in and then she wasn't partied whatever was going on but i think it's bait the trump team they had apparently had access to this what did they find did they find anything apparently they didn't i think this was all them dangling the keys over here while smacking with their other hand. Ballot harvesting, manipulation through the executive branch of many states. This is what gives Joe Biden the bump. Hatred of Trump, obviously. And then you had the mass ballot harvesting operation. You had the ground activists. You had COVID lockdown. People were guaranteed to be locked in their houses.

You told them they couldn't leave. And then when Trump's team are shocked to find out what happened, they distract all the conservatives, Republicans and sabotage the Georgia Senate race by screaming fraud. Trump comes out, screams fraud, convinces his voters not to vote in the Senate race, giving the Democrats the Senate. Absolutely remarkable. And then when they go down and investigate it, what do they find? Nothing.

This makes me remember some of the January 6th trespassers. I put in quotes some of the people that were let in. So if a police officer says you're allowed to come in and they open the door for you and you walk in and they go, you're trespassing now and they arrest you. You've breached the Capitol, you might say. Yeah, I think the cop is the one that committed the crime in that case by misleading the person. So this- Right. I guess that would be entrapment. Yeah, it seems like entrapment. Inducing someone to commit a crime that they would not normally commit, like telling them they're free to come in the building. And then

when they do, you say, now you're under arrest, you're being criminally charged. And whether or not you say, come on in, if you open a door, I mean, if you're a police, I don't know how that works. If you're a police officer at a locked door and you open it and stand aside, are you letting them in or are you just neutralizing yourself and removing yourself from the situation? But if you're taking an action to open a door that is already closed, like you are going from keeping a building secure and locked to being like, I'm going to open it and then I don't know. We'll see what happens.

Like, of course, people are going to walk in, especially if you're standing there like yeah it's fine that this door is open so that's this person here this what was the name again freight fright something like that they're the one that opened the door so i don't know uh kathy latham apparently opened the door oh man this is amazing it's a terrible day for kathy latham i'm sure well i think she already got fired but i'll tell you man you know i talk to people uh about stuff like this all the time and you get a mixed bag of responses some people say this is normal and i'm like normal they're like yeah stuff like this happens all the time the civil rights era was crazy and i'm like dude they're arresting their political opponents it's happening in real time this has never happened before and they're shielding the other one they're like the like hunter biden so this is so crazy

like it's the it's it's the empire it's it's a communist revolution like nixon with watergate they you know he he resigned but then they just pardoned him gerald ford pardoned him so it wasn't like i don't know if that's the plan here too maybe that's the plan here they want they want trump out then they're going to pardon him and move on here's the here's the question trump they've been working too hard for this well they don't want to be president but they don't want a revolution yeah they want to that's a thing like that's they're not going to go to if they were doing something like this they're not going to do go too crazy with it because then all of a sudden the people that they want to control are going to be a lot harder to control so here's's what we're looking at. Is this a period of political turmoil

which we'll get through and we'll forget about? Then it'll be listed as the Trump era in history and there'll be some minor conversations about it and we'll all forget about it. I don't think so. Is this the beginning of a civil war, a cold civil war, or active civil war? Perhaps. Is this the beginning of a revolution? Perhaps. It really just depends on what ends up happening politically. It could be a politically tumultuous time, which I hope for in that Donald Trump gets elected. He fires, arrests people, criminal charges against these corrupt individuals. We see things like that. If Trump gets elected, you know, this DA is probably getting charged under a seditious conspiracy. Trump's going to get a DA who's going to go in and be like New York, Florida, like DC,

Florida, Georgia, these places where they were indicting Trump. You are being investigated for a seditious conspiracy against the United States for trying to jail a political rival. The question I have is what does this become? If in 100 years, communist revolution, revolution is what happens. It will not say in the history books, communist revolution, the news articles from the day will not read of communist revolution. The Wikipedia entries won't. It will simply say that Trump was a fascist who tried to steal the, you know, take over the country. And he was stopped by a group of heroes. They'll make movies about a ragtag band of dissenters

who work together to stop Trump from stealing the election. And they'll call it the shadow campaign. And then they'll write in the history books about how Trump, they'll have a video where Trump is sitting at a desk and he's like, I want the systems hacked, go in now. And then there's going to be some guys

breaking the door and cracking in an election official going, come on. And they're going to go up and they're going to stick a usb into a computer and go whoa that's what the biopics will all show all the all the all the historical era pieces or civil war in which case it eventually breaks out into fighting uh dissolution uh fracturing of government facilities various factions fight i had a friend ask me today, he said, when the news came out about Georgia

indicting Trump, I was like, this is insane. This is like Civil War era stuff. I don't even think during the Civil War that it got as bad. There was threats of jailing a Supreme Court justice. I don't think Blinken actually did. And now you have Biden trying to jail Trump. My friend's like, this is not going toinken actually did. And now you have Biden trying to jail Trump.

My friends like, there's not going to be a civil war. Who's going to fight a bunch of Trump supporters? And then I said, how many people fought in the American Revolution? Do you guys know?

No. As the story goes, it's like 3%. It may actually have been quite a bit more than that, but very, very small. How many factions were there in the Syrian civil war?

There were a dozen, a dozen plus different factions. Like people seem to think that civil war means some Trump supporter will come out, file legislation and say, we have by declare we own civil war. Bang. Like that's how it ever worked. The crazy thing is the in the in the actual civil war after the first battle of Bull Run. OK, so this is the crazy thing. The Battle of Fort Sumter. They say this is the crazy thing the battle of fort sumter

they say this is the start of the civil war only one guy died and by accident because they didn't think there was actually a civil war then you get the first battle of bull run what was it manassas or something they did not even think there was a civil war at that time when we were talking about the second fight in the civil war and people were picnicking and laughing. And when the fighting broke out, people panicked and fled. And when the Confederacy won, they still did not believe they were in a civil war. So they refused to march on Washington. Wow.

The Confederacy could have just taken just one instantly by marching into Washington after they won the first time. It's like no matter how much was happening, they did not believe it was a civil war. I read this, this, I read this academic article about when did it become the civil war? Because I was interested with everyone talking about what's happening in the United States. When will people actually say we're in a civil war? I have no idea. Maybe they won't because something could change and it could become a revolution. Or if it is a revolution, they won't even call it a revolution. They'll say a, they'll say justice or something like that. Or Trump gets elected, elected fires everybody and they just say thwarted a communist revolution who knows and i was reading about how it at first it was called the conflict

between states and a rebellion and things like this and then eventually after a few years i think it was like one or two years it was being referred to as civil war but it's remarkable to me that they could be shooting and killing each other and be like but we're not in a civil war that's crazy and then you have the story of john brown and bleeding kansas seven years of the lead-up of the civil war and the people he killed and i'm like for all we know in 100 years they're gonna be like dude this like the second civil war period was crazy and like we're in a civil war now and then some dude's gonna be like bro we're not a civil war now. And then some dude's going to be like, bro, we're not a civil war. Come on.

And then they're going to go. Do you know the story of what happened with Michael Reinald in Portland? This communist with a tattoo on his neck. He walks up to a Trump supporter and just shoots him twice in the chest. Just like today, we talk about John Brown walking up to a slave owner, pulling out a gun and blasting him in the face. Like it. And for all I know, it could be 10, 20 20 30 years or it could never happen but i'm just saying like people never know when they're in the conflict you can't see the forest you're in it do

you think part of the evolution of the american civil war uh was different because we were used to fighting on our own soil whereas modern people are used to wars being things that happen somewhere else i mean i'm thinking in comparison like the the time difference between the american civil war and or the the revolutionary war and the civil war really wasn't that that great whereas we were you know we fought in vietnam we fought obviously wars in afghanistan but they happen elsewhere so we don't think conflict happens on our own soil i mean it does though i mean the civil war was one of the bloodiest battles ever but it's in comparison it's so far back people like feel disassociated from it no No, because we are clearly at war with Russia and Ukraine.

And even now, they're like, no, not. I think it's because people don't see it. They feel like it's happening somewhere else. So it's sort of amorphous. I think you just can't see the forest through the trees. You're in it. So so we're looking at any reasonable person who has read the news and understand what's going on knows the United States is at war with Russia, period. We provided weapons and intel so that a Ukrainian could blow up the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

Like, come on. That's not Ukraine doing it. And that you say, you know, we're at war with Russia. No, Ukraine is. We're just helping them. But I think it's interesting how you said like that where i was with russia no ukraine is we're just helping them but i think it's interesting how you said like that three percent was in the thought the civil war right no a revolution a revolution but i don't know that that's true that's what they say i'll fact check right now it was so like that it's such a small number like think about all

the normal americans that even they don't even know about politics or even care like i know people even just two out like an hour away from dc that could care less they'd have no idea what i'm talking about if i talk about something like this like we could very much be and i i was trying to be so bearish on the cold war thing that tim was saying but honestly the more i think about it and also i don't know what they're going to do the other thing you're saying earlier about when trump becomes president and he starts ripping through these institutions if he becomes president like that's something that's a worst case scenario for these guys like they they quit google search to say a 3% thing is a myth.

Okay. So, let me, let me, but, but keep talking. I'm just reading. Okay, well, then I'm damn wrong about that one. We'll scrub that point. We're scrubbing that point from the, from the record. But the, but think about if you're going to be, if you're Merrick Garland, if you're any of these, Chris Wray, if you're any of these guys, the worst case scenario for you is if Trump becomes president. If a Republican becomes president, maybe you can maybe cut a deal with like the sanas or somebody

else but like trump the trump's people they've been getting attacked for four straight years they're coming for blood like that's the one thing that makes me worried about when you say that we this might be the last election we have in american history at least for a while or the last real one like between them between three and ten percent that's still the higher estimate is about ten percent because there was a lot of militia involved the continental army was about 75 000 at the time when the u.s population was 2.5 million that crazy and so uh a bunch of different sources say they think the three percent thing comes from the size of the continental army compared to the size of uh the u.s population which makes sense but then you actually break it down, it doesn't make sense because women don't fight.

The elderly don't fight. A lot of younger people. So that could theoretically reduce the total percentage of eligible fighters. But then you take into consideration active militia, which were not registered or continental, and they say it could be closer to about 10%, in which case a very, very small percentage of individuals. Oh, it's 10 of the available fighting force fought 10 of the population so like that includes women and children like little kids too 10 of the population it meaning 90 100 of them are men

okay so just the available fighters 10 of those went to war 10 of all of the population fought of that 10 they were all eligible fighters it is not that 10 of eligible fighters fought well then that means because that that number would be if if so let's 30 of the population was kids so let's break it in half and say the population is 2.5 so uh let's say about 1.25 million men let Let's say that 400,000 are between elderly and children. Maybe that's not, maybe that's unfair. It probably would be if they're having, how many kids are they having back then? Let's just say five. Yeah, at least.

Five kids. So then you've got a smaller portion of elderly, but we'll cut it in half, take 2.5. So then if we're looking at 1.25 it's fair to say yeah maybe 300 to let's say 500 000 because there were a lot of children were on not eligible you then have 750 000 eligible fighters of that 250 000 fought so we're looking at roughly one third of eligible fighters or 10 of the total population i'm thinking but i'm just throwing numbers at the top of my head the point is this we have 300 some odd million people in this country right now. It takes only a small amount of people to disrupt a system.

In New York, so back in the day, think about this. 2.5 million people and 75% – I'm sorry, and 75,000 are Continental Army, 3%. How many people serve in the U.S. military service today? Does someone want to look it up real quick? Quick Google search here. And then my point is, as Ian is searching this, the U.S. population is massive. New York City, for instance, in the metro, we're looking at 10 million. In the city proper, I think it might be nine.

But they only have like 40,000 cops. This is a 1.3 million active duty personnel. 1.3 million as of 2022. 1.3 million. So we're talking about what? 0.3% of the population of this country is active duty. But it was 10 times that during the American Revolutionary period. During World War II, they were drafting, I think, 3 million people a year.

Something like that. So the the draft would you could draft all that matters is the size of institutional uh violent forces versus the percent of population that are are feeling unrest well what i'm thinking is it's i think when you said cultural revolution that's what we're looking at it's a nobody wants to come to. We don't want the nukes to launch. China doesn't want to invade. They don't want to trigger some sort of hellfire, but they want to control the minds. They want to get people to turn on each other. And so how many people are aware of that? Those are the active fighters of the day quotes.

Let me let me pull up this story for you from the post millennial. 30 million Americans say violence is justified to keep Trump from power. University of Chicago study. The U Chicago professor said the public is more radicalized and that's really quite significant. OK, but well, before we opine on this, let me read and break this down because we got to be careful here. They say the study found that 11.6 percent of U.S. adults agree that a use of force is permissible to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president. This amounts to around 30 million people. But hold on there. A total of 3,543 U.S. adults were polled for the survey in June of 2023, with a reported margin of error of two to three percentage points. University of Chicago Professor Robert Pape, who led the research,

said that while he believes recent indictments against President Trump have created radicalization, there is also growing anger and radicalization on the left as well. Oh, gee, you think the public is more radicalized than it was in April? And it's really quite significant. We've been tracking this quite a while, and this is really a big bump. What Pape did not mention is that the amount that the number of people who would approve of violence when it serves a desired political outcome on the left dwarfs that of the right. In the same study, it was determined that the amount of Americans who say the use of force is justified to return Trump to the White House was shot, has shot up from six million in the past few months to about 18 million. It's almost half the amount of people who justify using violence to keep Trump

out of office. So right now, when it comes to radicalization, I don't know if this actually means 30 million Americans. It translates to perhaps. No, they these studies are done in such a way that they have successfully, in many instances, extrapolated data to a great degree. The only question is margin of error. They say two to three percent. Maybe it's five to ten, ten to twenty. Let's say the margin of error. They say two to 3%, maybe it's five to 10, 10 to 20. Let's say the margin of error is 10 to 20%. You think that'd be fair, Ian? It's tough to tell. It's impossible to tell. That's the problem with this article. And it's disgusting that they wrote that headline that is complete mislead because they only pulled 3,500 people. But do you know how polls work?

Yeah. How do they work? You get a small group of people and then you ask them a question or a group of questions and then you can do whatever you want so the way it works is they have charts tracking various demographics they pull the demographics in key areas they figure out what the majority of these areas think and feel then they do a wider sample size with different questions and say if the cast castle Castle household, 80, 90, actually 100% of this house, everyone polled in it said they would not vote for Joe Biden. Some might vote libertarian, some might vote Trump, but zero for Biden. When they do a larger poll and they say, we called this house and we were told that they don't think violence is justified,

they extrapolate that with a margin of error to say previous polls in the area based on demographic views and studies have shown that this group tends to vote this way. When we asked them, they said this. They then target a bunch of different areas and say this 3,500 people is actually a very large sample size for a poll. I think it's fair to say, however, the margin of error could be way larger, and to just immediately say 30 million Americans say no, no, no, we've extrapolated that

data point, but it does suggest a study suggests 30 million Americans believe violence is justified. It doesn't mean they will commit the violence, however, just that someone else could. If they were put on a jury, they would be like,

oh, we sympathize with what you did. Either way, I think it is absolutely fair to say this is patently obvious when you talk to these people and when you see people go and do men on the street interviews with them. They absolutely agree with this in major cities.

In a lot of places, definitely. I just think that they should have done it by percentage, like this percentage of people versus 30 million, because that makes it sound like there's exactly 30 30 million out here that are ready to go to war you could say it also says that the study says that 30 million people said it i mean this is completely misleading disgusting it could say 10 of poll respond 11.6 of poll respondents said that violence was justified to stop the word millions in all caps too it's such clickbait. Inconsequential number. They're like,

that's a, that's a big percentage. That's a good friends over at the post millennial. I have great friends at post millennial. That is disgusting. You guys. 30 million Americans did not say this. That's very,

very different. But there is a study that says 11.6% of those who responded said they would. I don't think the study just went to an antifa enclave or went to a dnc meeting and said how do you feel i think they did a standard uh you know study let me uh what do we have political crisis it's from july what do they explain can you go to the study does it link to it it just links to a news article do we we have this actually? University of Chicago. Because if they link to the actual study, sometimes that's... Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck.

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Survey shows a small but significant share of Americans believe in the use of force to attain political goals on the on both the left and the right. It's funny. They don't mention that the study shows that on the right, it's half of what the left wants. So this is from about two, two and a half weeks ago. And let's see, do they have the study shows that on the right it's half of what the left wants so this is from about two two and a half weeks ago and uh let's see do they have the study here dangers project has been conducting dangers to democracy now they just linked another one of their own stories also if it dangers the democracy survey sounds like a pretty biased way of like there's somewhere in danger you need to get ready get going well danger to democracy is a left biased title because Republicans, conservatives,

libertarians don't call the United States a democracy because it's not. Yeah. Like, would you fight if you were in danger? It's a lot bigger question. Would you fight, you know, adding the danger part of it is like, well, if I'm in danger, I'm going to be a lot more likely to fight for my life. So here's how it should actually break down. If this was framed that way and it skewed liberal in their

survey questions, that means that of that 11.6, there's a massive bias. So the number is probably much less among both groups. In fact, you could argue if it's, if it, if it was left biased, then the political violence to, to, to, uh, support Trump would be a lot lower. You ask a liberal, do you think violence should be used to put Trump in office? They say no. Do you think violence should be used to stop Trump? They say yes. If you poll 2,000 Democrats and 1,000 Republicans, you will get the numbers you're looking for. That's the important thing to track with these studies. But here's what I want to get to. I don't know if this is true. All right. It may be one in five Americans believe that the election is stolen. These polls are not always accurate. Sometimes they are. Sometimes they aren't. Some of the I mean, but but what have they been off by like seven to 10 percent? Let's just say the number is seven to 10 percent. Let's let's track all of the polling that we've seen thus far in the past two elections from let's just take a look at 2020 and 2022, the presidential and then the midterms, the polling.

Oh, actually, 2016. Let's look at from 2016 till now. The polling has been consistently off by between seven or 10 percent. So that means we're looking at 20, 20 million people in this country would hold those sentiments if the polling was off by that much. And it could be in the other direction. It could even be higher. It could be 40 million people who believe in use of force and violence but when it comes to to plaintively telling humans how many people want to fight to kill right now we should be very specific about who claimed that

like it was only 3 500 people that made those claims so i do not want to it was 300 360 people of 3 500 people polled so it's very very, very, very, very, very tiny. And now considering that and considering the polls have been wrong by about 7, 10% in favor of Trump, I think it stands to reason that the number is probably a bit less than 30 million. And we can argue that the 11.6% number is probably if we, if we were to drop it down, it's probably closer to 9%. And also that's a high, high removal. Cause I was saying just 10%, but that's, that's,

that's nearly 20% being removed from that number and people from 11 to nine. But so that then we'd be looking at what 15 to 20 million people who want to engage in violence, except that a lot of people that answer polls to begin with are people that are politically activated. And those are the people that would be more likely to, in a situation, you know, take up arms. I think are already aware of what's going on. Let's say the amount of people that want politically activated and those are the people that would be more likely to in a situation you know take up arms i think are already aware of what's going on let's say the amount of people that want to engage in that that are willing to engage in violence is five million let's say it's uh let's say it's two and a half million or three three let's just say one tenth of what they actually got one tenth of one percent three million people i think when you look at the summer of love it's clear to see that there are millions of people prepared to engage in violence offensive violence i don't

know they did it yeah i mean you know hundreds of thousands of people all over the country i mean how many people i know that during occupy wall street they said there were 300,000 at its peak had protested in some capacity but this ranges from actually sleeping in a park to marching down the street a couple times. When it came to the Summer of Love riots, how many people actively rioted? What do you think? 50 to 100,000?

Because it was all over the country. There had to be hundreds in every city, even small towns. And there were multiple nights. I mean, it wasn't just one riot and then we call it a day. Yeah. 50 to 100,000?

I don't know. What I can tell you is we had talked about this a long time ago. The amount of people required to destabilize this country and kick off some really crazy stuff, it's like a couple dozen. Well, and we already know

violent crime is up in every major city across the country. We know that we are seeing violence on a more regular basis than we have in years past. So it wouldn't be surprising to me that people would then say like if i feel politically motivated i would also be willing to act violently uh that's that's a simple conclusion i don't know what the number on that would be it just seems like people feel more unrest and are willing to act out on that than ever before

what i think is interesting i feel like there's a lot of violent people in the country but to be like purposefully violent is a like kind of a different thing. Right? Like if you look at like the, what remember in the case and that had that thing, that's his name, right? And that bunch of people.

PlayStation giveaway. Yeah. And everybody started going crazy. I think that proves it to be completely honest that it could happen. Yeah. That we're on the cusp of it. When people are willing to be violent and destructive for no reason, you know,

people talk, we talk about civil war and they're like, who's really gonna fight? I don't know, a random guy who's bored? Because we've seen that happen over and over and over again in the past couple years. People just being like, it's on, I guess. They lose control and they go

and smash stuff. You know what? Let's pull up the story, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go. You may have seen the video over the weekend. We have this from the Daily Mail. Los Angeles Nike store robbed as shoplifters hit Topanga Nordstrom again. The latest in a troubling string of violent smash and grab incidents. There's a video going around.

Nordstrom ransacked for $100,000 worth of merchandise. They're not even covering their faces anymore. I saw a video of guys robbing a supermarket. They didn't even wear a mask. It's three dudes. They walk in. They grab felt their car walk out go to the car and start filling it up while a guy films them there's a video of a woman stealing from a store she just throws it in her car jumps in her car speeds off this is what people don't get civil war or i should say revolution or social breakdown in many countries especially the ones ones that I've seen. It is not like a bunch of people go outside,

stand in front of a podium and say, we the people of the continental liberty faction hereby proclaim. It's like a group of people run through a building, smashing up things and setting fires for no reason. And then in the chaos, people start to seize power, power shifts. You get a bunch of people looting and smashing. And then when this spreads too far and it spreads to political areas, the system breaks down. When you've got these smash and grabs going on at this Nordstrom, apparently it happened again.

I don't know if you guys have seen the video. Look at this guy just filling up his bags, being like, ain't nothing you can do about it. Cops aren't going to do anything about it. Well, and if he were to get caught, he'd get released. It's California, right? Of course. Now, what happens to, what does a regular person think? Run of the mill, law-abiding citizen says, what's the purpose of money? Why am I following these rules? Like, why am I? I don't think they say that. I think they're terrified that if they, right now, the story is a man rapes a woman on a train in Philadelphia. And the question is, why didn't anyone save her? Well, because if you tried to, you go to prison. Like when that dude in New York stopped that guy threatening to kill people.

They charge him with a crime. So now people are thinking, if you follow the law, you go to jail. If you try to protect yourself, you go to jail. And you don't need money to buy anything because criminals don't go to jail. I think more and more people are just going to say, these are the new rules. That's what seems like is happening. That's exactly what it is. And they're going to live in fear, right?

Like you guys had a different reaction than I did. I would say, why would I still live here? Why would I go to this Nordstrom if this is what's happening? I don't think they live in fear. Before, well, I was going to say, before the show, I was reading the story about the 76-year-old who got stabbed on the New York subway platform. I think this was today because he refused to give a panhandler money. I mean, I think as social order breaks down, people become more conscious of the fact that like your safety is not guaranteed,

which of course you should always be careful. On the other hand, the increased number of stabbings on New York City public transit is concerning, right? Did you see the video of the there's two black guys holding an Asian guy? One one black guy's holding the asian guy so he can't move with his arms locked while the other guy just winds up and smacks him in the face over and over again people just walk by and just videoed it i don't understand people just watched and filmed and they didn't do anything about it it was a stop asian hate thing like those going viral being asian in new york actually seems terrifying honestly i feel like i've seen videos of asian guys and old old asian people getting just hauled off and just wrecked by black guys up there it's crazy i'll say also with this uh la this whole la a hundred thousand dollar thing i wouldn't be shocked at

all if this is organized like there's got i think there's crim some criminal people out there right now that see that people don't get in trouble for stealing the stuff and they go out there and they organize large groups of people to go steal the stuff. That would be a mafia. It's like the worst flash mob ever. That would be a mafia then. And maybe there is a new mafia that's created of just young people that are stealing and coordinating theft. That would be a new mafia that

requires federal attention. Yeah, these gangs. Exactly, yeah. I'll issue a clarification on this story. The viral video that was going around, because I didn't actually, I just Google searched it. So apparently the guy beating the guy being held claims the Asian man he was beating was groping women. So great. I love the destruction, the collapse of society.

That's all. I mean, you know what I mean, though? Like, if that's true, then we have this random guy groping women on a public subway platform. And then two guys get engaging in vigilante justice to try and stop him from doing it. If that's even true. If that's not true, then it's just like two guys beating up this other guy. Like either one, not great for society. Does not make me want to take the subway in New York.

And this is why people just don't, they tune out. They don't want to look at like stuff like this. Like this is so complicated. Like we have no idea what really happened here. Like these guys might have just hauled off and attacked this dude. That happens all the time in New York. This guy might have been growing women. That happens all the time in New York.

Why am I, the farmer from Kansas, going to give a rat's butt about this thing? This is a good example of the problem with why people don't help anyone. I just said, a guy rapes a woman on a subway cart in Philadelphia. Why does anyone help? Because you pull the guy off. you stop him from doing it now you're on camera beating up some guy and they're going to arrest you charge you and everyone's going to say they hate you for doing it just like so so earlier today my friend is watching the video he goes look at this and i passively see it and i go wow i don't even know what's going on and so i bring it up here on the show i look it up and i'm like the claim they made is that he was trying to sexually assault a woman

so they grabbed him pulled him off and then smacked him around here's my issue with it you stop him from doing it then you stand in a subway cart after you've stopped it keep his arms locked and then slap him repeatedly is still not a good thing yeah yeah yeah i mean i know you say this all the time like makes you want to leave cities. Like, if this is what's happening, you want to be far away from people, which I don't advocate for an antisocial society. I think community is actually important, but this is not community. Again, you want to give credit if someone is doing something like stopping someone else

from assaulting a woman. On the other hand, do we even know what happened? We can't even trust anything we hear because we're so used to a warped media it's kind of depressing honestly you just don't know where to turn to wow i mean so so in the video they've got him pinned they've got him held back you can see this they're holding him so he can't move then one dude knocks him out slaps him in the head knocking him out then the other guy starts uh bashing uh punching him in the head several times oh they went way too far don't care what he was doing you knocked him out. Then the other guy starts bashing, punching him in the head several times. Oh, they went way too far. Don't care what he was doing.

You knocked him out and then you beat his head on the ground. Like what the hell? I'll tell you this. This is what happens in societal breakdown. You get a story of a guy raping a woman on the train and no one does anything. And then you get guys like this who see a guy going after women and then they beat the crap out of him. It's like, it's like I was saying with the,

I bring it up all the time with V for vendetta. When the inspector says, eventually someone will do something stupid and it shows the finger man the cop shoot the little girl and then all of the locals walk up to him with bats and crowbars and then it's heavily implied they beat him i don't like vengeance and i when i asked i asked on twitter i was like okay just ask him for a friend is jesus christ into vengeance just asking for eight billion. And a lot of the Christians, I want the Christians to say out loud, was Christ your savior into vengeance? Does he suggest you create vengeance on your foe? And people are like, no, God does, but not Jesus. But some people say Jesus is God. So yes, it was very confusing. But then there's the question of what's the difference between

vengeance and justice? Obviously, if someone commits a horrific crime they there should be justice but justice doesn't always imply punishment so i i don't know i don't think revenge and seeking out after the threat has been neutralized to go make your emotions on that guy like that just doesn't i don't i do not that is a repetitive cycle that will grind us into the dust so we've got to be careful not to fall into it i think it's all breaking down. This is what happens during the breakdown. And then eventually people don't feel safe on the subway trains. Eventually things are going to get a bit worse than this.

We had the video of the guys in Stockton beating the guy with a stick. Now that guy we know for sure on camera threatened to kill the store clerks. And so they grabbed him and then started attacking him. What do you do to subdue a guy? He pulled out some kind of weapon i don't know if you have a knife or something look at a knife and like yeah that kills you one knife to the chest you die and so they start hitting him all they had was a stick and then the guy just cried and then there's more there's more photos i guess body camera footage showing the guy on the ground just being like they stopped eventually the cops came and got him they announced they would not be charging these guys but i wonder i wonder if this can reverse

itself in the sense that a culture starts to emerge where people will just say we don't care what happens the cops are gonna have to deal with it and they'll start attacking the criminals well we're so there's so much stuff going on new york's so big like a place like this you're so desensitized with the internet i think all you can really do is like those guys just be with yourself protect yourself make sure you're ready make sure you can

protect your family make sure you can protect those around you that you care about because we're getting to the point and that's I guess that is the destruction

of a community because you only care about the singular in that scenario but all you can really do out here these days especially like I live in D.C.

people are crazy like that guy from Rand Paul Stafford got stabbed. I don't know if you guys have seen that video. That's crazy. He was just walking down the street. In the middle of the day, right? Yeah, and just stabbed him. For no reason.

There was, I can't remember which congressman it was, who a guy followed her into her apartment elevator and like she threw coffee on him and like he was sort of attacking her. Like this stuff is happening all the time. And of course we hear about it more and more connected people are connected to someone in the public space but uh can you imagine just being one of the run-of-the-mill run-of-the-mill people who gets attacked on the street you have to make a report to the cops and cops are like i know crazy right people are getting stabbed all the time yeah we were just watching before the show uh footage

from the rodney king riots in los ang. And it was like Asian store owners, just walking outside and shooting at random Korean, Korean, Korean. Thank you. Shooting at random people or people that they thought were threatening their store. I don't know if those people ever got arrested and charged, but we're in the age now of social media. So we've got this technocratic oversight. That's like, like it's, it's a temp. It seems like it's trying to criminalize self-defense. Like Daniel Penny apparently choked out some bum that was threatening to kill or hurt a bunch of people on a train so he choked him out and then he got he got arrested for it like he defended those people and then he's the one that got in trouble that wouldn't happen in the early 90s that didn't happen in the 80s

when we didn't have social media where people get to sit and think for like a week watch the video over and over should we go after that guy should we go should we should we they they mentioned on wikipedia that no rioters were fatally shot by any of the korean volunteers the interesting thing is they point out that because south korea has a two-year mandatory military service all these guys had had firearms experience so they were warding them off with their warning shots but they were firing you know it's probably safer than pointing and shooting like they have experience handling gun they're not someone who just bought a gun because they're scared and they don't know how to use it you could

argue that wasn't even i mean that wasn't even self-defense at that point why because they're defending their store maybe but i didn't the people weren't near the store that they were shooting at i didn't see any people on cameras just dudes out in front shooting like in different around not so much the point the point is this technocratic march towards communism is making us look at ourselves hypercritically and criminalize self-defense. We've got to stop doing that to ourselves. We have to let self-defense reign. You need to be able to defend yourself and your community or the community will fall. You have to do that. I think it's interesting what you said, how you, we watched that clip

hundreds of times over and over again, because if you think if you've been in like a fight before or any kind of like physical altercation, it's quick. It's not like you're sitting there and you're deciding your next move, like you sherlock holmes in that movie like you're trying to sit there and you're surviving you're reacting and so people like they see the gauges like oh i wouldn't have choked him for that long i was like well i'm holding on that guy for dear life you know like you have no idea he could get up and kill you yeah that's the thing about the the guy this the in stockton who are beating the guy with the stick and there are some people being like yeah but they they kept going and he was begging and crying it's like and he could kill them he pulled some kind of weapon and threatened them to with death and he had

threatened to shoot them in the past that's that was reported uh in previous stories and they're not trained it's not like they're police officers it's not like they're jujitsu fighters on the ground to go wrestle this guy's knife away like they're trying to have you seen the video of the guy who executes i think it was a 7-eleven clerk yeah he walks behind the counter he's pointing the gun at him the guy's on his ground on the ground his knees just with his hands up the guy opens right just takes the money looks at him shoots him in the head and then grabs the money just walks out casually and so we build this system where we're supposed to tell victims just sit there and hope you don't die but you might that's insane didn't some uh maybe it was a different clerk in like new york or seven o'clock didn't

he stab someone or shoot somebody that came to the store that was attacking him and then yeah that's insane what was that story a guy a woman a woman got mad because the potato chips cost too much money or something like that told her boyfriend the boyfriend came in started uh hitting the store clerk and she pulls out a knife they fight he grabs the knife from her stabs the guy who was beating him the guy i guess he died is that what happened or no he went to the he didn't die i don't i don't know if he might they arrested the store clerk and sent him to rikers whoa and then only for murder for homicide or something and then only after major outcry did he get released yeah those guys with the stick could easily and like if they're in the wrong

place wrong time wrong da like we're talking in the wrong place, wrong time, wrong DA, like we're talking about the Trump stuff right now, I guess that kind of comes back. Or if no one caught it on video, right? Like there are people who are in the right to defend themselves who don't get the kind of public outcry that that guy got. You're dependent on someone else advocating for you, which is crazy.

It feels so obvious. I don't know if this is true. It feels like foreign governments and foreign corporations, I'm talking about the World Economic Forum, I'm talking about the CCP, God knows the Russian governments involved, are trying to get the United States to fail. They want us to hurt each other and to die. And they would love for us to criminalize our own defensive capabilities. So why would you let that happen?

Why? Think about it. Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. I think people do want to see America fail. And that's why people have to be conscious of what's going on around them. I don't know how to help. I don't know how to help besides making some grand sacrifice. Well, all you can do is work on your small community where your friends are

and try to make sure that they're safe, they're healthy, they're working hard, they have a good avenue to get out of this stuff. i think about like i used to be a little bit more like what are we going to do a full rebel that's not gonna that's not gonna work out like maybe it does maybe we have to maybe that's what ultimately it's gonna happen but what you can focus on when stuff is going on like this is make sure you're armed make sure you're healthy make sure you have a good food supply like make sure you know how to farm you know how to hunt that's one that i have friends that have never held a gun like i've never shot a gun before like what if it all does go bad and we have to start hunting and fishing and stuff like that at least i was raised that way because i'm from the south like

i can't imagine some of these yankee guys up in new york like what are they gonna do like can't go to the like can't go to the gazebo up there you know or the true yeah yeah there's nothing i mean do you make a lifestyle choice when you are choosing to live in certain cities and certain states. And I get that. But I think there's a lack of long term thinking. You know, I think right now people are thinking, well, New York City is beautiful and great. And there are lots of wonderful things about cities in the country, cities across the country. It's just the state of them right now. You have to be conscious of the choice that you're making if you're what you're choosing to live in yeah we've been living too fat for too long i think too i think that's part of it america's been on top for too long yeah we're getting soft we don't we never we don't have to do the conflicts i know that not that many people have fought like you were saying earlier in those battles and like i guess that so people will say maybe not everybody fought back then but i think that we had some hard choices that we haven't had to have in a while and we're now we're facing the repercussion yeah we need to prepare for war every one of us and that's so it doesn't happen we need to had to have in a while. And now we're facing the repercussions. Yeah, we need to prepare for war, every one of us.

And that's so it doesn't happen. We need to know how to fire a gun. We need to know. We're on a kid-friendly show right now. Ian started working out for this music video and he's getting more and more conservative. That study was right. I was watching videos on the ancient Romans

and how they would conquer Capua, for instance, their southern neighbors. There's a bunch of farmers. They didn't know how to fight because they lived their whole lives as just farmers living off the land. And then when the mountain men came in, they knew how to fight

and they were the ones that took the land. So if we don't know how to fight, we're basically these fat farmers waiting to be taken. And it's not like that stuff doesn't happen anymore. It's not like these, there aren't hardened warriors out there

that want our stuff. We need to be prepared. China wants our stuff china's got super soldier programs yeah that's true wait what yeah you didn't know that oh of course they do yeah let me let me search that one classic china they just they just do whatever like whatever sci-fi thing they saw from the 80s like china's just going to try it look at this story china has done human testing to create biologically enhanced super soldiers, says top U.S. official. U.S. intelligence agents didn't immediately respond to requests about whether China seeks to create soldiers like those in Captain America.

But doesn't this make sense? Don't they like specifically ask certain like athletic people to have children to like create more athletic people? Like this makes complete sense that they would be like, if it applies to their sports, but wouldn't apply to their military. What if they made, what if they genetically engineered humans to be, to like have superpowers and jump really high or, you know,

throw lightning bolts or something. Would you be really that opposed to it? If they made the X-Men, then we'd all think it's really cool. Like they'd be like Harry Potter and all the millennials would be very, very into it. Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Or there they'd be like Harry Potter and all the millennials would be very, very into it. Possibly. Yeah.

Yeah. Or there's gonna be like these like Chinese shills, like super red army, whatever, whatever. Yeah. It'll be X-Men, but it'll be very CCP X-Men. That's a cool idea for a, for a, for a fiction sci-fi kind of thing though. China invents super soldier serum that gives people some kind of abilities. I would, I, if I were to do it, it wouldn't be super like like ridiculous like laser eyes it's a little that's that's nuts but it would be like stronger faster jump higher be younger things like that was just trt dude and then what happens is

people in the united states start justifying why the chinese communist party is good desperately begging for access to their serum technology that's a brilliant idea as you coin that that's copyrighted for tim cast yeah you heard it here first they'll be able to desperately begging for access to their serum technology. To their CRISPR technology. That's a brilliant idea. You should coin that. That's copyrighted for Tim Kass. Yeah, you heard it here first. They'll be able to see super far, like long distance vision.

There will be like spies working within the US that are just like American citizens who turn traitor for China because they want access to this technological advancement. What's our super soldier program like? You know we got one. We better. No, we got one. We better. No, we don't. No way.

You've seen our military recruiting strategies. We're like, look at this girl. She's got two moms. She's gonna be a great submarine operator. You need dudes that can hold their breath for like 60 minutes. Like fishmen. Yeah, I was thinking about the fishmen.

There's these things where they can inject into, I'm not sure what it is exactly, some sort of red blood cell or something. This is an old tech too, like from 15 years ago, into the bloodstream. And it lets you like only breathe once every 30 minutes or something i should find this there's those divers i think that might be some there's those divers for like yeah 10 what if they can be like down there for like 10 minutes or something crazy like

that really low depths yeah yeah you mean like just like general deep diving but that's because of like like your it has to do with like because of your... It has to do with the compression of gases. It has to do with everything slowing down for you. There's a whole lot of stuff that goes into it because you're going that deep in the water. Again, I don't know a lot about this, but I've read into it in the past as well. We're getting real transhumanist in here.

Yeah, we are. That's the name of the day, dude. Did you find it? No. I remember blogging this on minds like in 2012 they've done uh they do those those guinness world record holding your breath thing yeah and it's like i don't know six minutes or something but then they also do oxygenated holding your breath where you breathe pure oxygen and like hyperventilate and then hold your breath you can hold your breath

like 20 or 30 minutes or something ridiculous you guys seen the steroid olympics no that's a good idea they're talking no there's a guy i think it's an indian guy who's trying to start like a steroid olympic like where you can like you take steroids and you like compete oh my gosh we're watching that over there no more olympics i would watch 24 minutes holding his breath underwater what wow yeah also like how do you occupy your mind during that time i can't even smoke a cigarette that's what i mean though like mean, though. Like, when you are running out of oxygen, you've just trained yourself to stay totally calm so you don't panic and use more oxygen? Well, you don't feel like you're suffering

out of oxygen. You just feel how CO2 build up. That's what you get like. Either one, though. That would also be hard to keep your mind out of. There's technically oxygen in the water. So if you're, and there's oxygen in the air you can take in through your skin.

I know it's a little transhumanist to think that you can get it any other way than breathing it in your lungs. But I think you can. You can drink water and get oxygen that way. So, yeah, there are other ways. Yeah. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck.

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The guy who's got the 25-minute record was pre-breathing 100% oxygen prior to holding his breath. That's kind of like the steroids thing. Oh, that's crazy. So you can just huff oxygen and then you can just breathe. You can hold it for the world the world record for non-oxygen assisted breath hold is 11 minutes and 35 seconds by stefan mifsud for women it's nine minutes so when is that gonna be

the thing like when they're selling air because of the air quality is going to hell because of the you know canada's blowing all the smoke down here are we gonna start just huffing oxygen to survive is that gonna be the next big business? They sell those like oxygen cans, right? Intravenous oxygen injection for patients who cannot breathe. Yeah, I think this is it. This is from 2012. An injection that delivers oxygen directly into the bloodstream

for patients who cannot breathe. So it's if someone goes into cardiac arrest, you can get it right into the blood. So you don't need to breathe to get your oxygen. I'm not a transhumanist guy, but that sounds pretty sweet. The fact that like, we're basically just machines that you can just dump like a little bit of

like oxygen into your bloodstream like this and you don't have to breathe. That's crazy. Like, wow, dude, like super steady. That's what I think all the time. Like injection.

It sounds so fun, but like tiny gas filled micro particles can be administered directly into the bloodstream, supplying it with oxygen. They're made of a single layer of fatty molecules that surround a minuscule pocket of oxygen that are placed in a liquid solution and injected into the patients. Is that from 2012 also? This is old tech. I wonder what they got now.

But it's this CRISPR stuff. I wonder if people will even need to breathe very much. I think China has probably genetically engineered a whole generation of soldiers that we don't even just underwater people that can live underwater stuff to their kids in hospitals already i'll say that like are they already like have like a cocktail that they're feeding in there i don't know if they care about the average person the average person can live their life fund the economy do menial labor and then they start creating genetically engineered super soldiers for higher level stuff but we all know how that goes because we've all seen the wrath

of khan right yeah unfortunately no no i haven't what happens so the long story short of it in star trek a part of the lore in the past is that humans started genetically engineering people and then created super strong people who eventually felt like they were better than everyone else and should be in charge because they're smarter faster and stronger and then i i think the story it's been a long time since the movie i think they get frozen and launched into space to get rid of them and then uh the crew of the enterprise discovers the vessel and then unfreezes them that was basically that might be um into into darkness with ben Darkness with Benedict Cumberbatch. I'm not sure if it was a similar plot for Wrath of Khan.

That was a good one. But I think that was Wrath of Khan. I just haven't seen Wrath of Khan since I was a little kid. I just love the future where we, when we have a problem, we just freeze it and launch it into space. We're like, see you later. Something like that. I can't deal with you anymore. People are still, are actually like really doing that right now, too.

They're like really looking into, some guy dropped out of high school or something. The Free Press, Barry Weiss's paper did an article on it into some guy dropped out of high school or something the free press barry weiss's paper did an article on it some guy dropped out of high school to start freezing people he's like freezing dogs now but he has other people signed up that are like gonna be frozen for a long term wasn't that the rumor for like walt disney when i was growing up that's whatever that happened to walt disney i mean i feel like a lot of stuff could happen is it working are they bringing them freezing and then i don't know if they're bringing them back i know that i think they're freezing them now with like the intention of bringing them back eventually would you do that if you could dude we need something wrong would be you would come up and your brain

would be half melted like right you think oh yeah i think it would never work but the main issue is that freezing causes water water to crystallize so if you freeze a person it destroys and ruptures the cell wall so they need to find ways to super cool and slow down the chemical process in the body without causing that destruction so like run electricity through the body really fast or something go through like what spin you really fast so that there's constant shake you just shake you violently because then the water can't freeze do you think people ever ask to just be kept permanently in a coma they'll be like i'm towards the end of life but i people will ever ask to just be kept permanently in a coma? They'll be like,

I'm towards the end of life, but I don't like this decade. Just keep me in a coma for 10 years. And that will be like a voluntary stage. That seems much more like a real thing than like the freeze. Skip a decade? I feel like that's what people will end up doing. I don't know the science,

but I trust him on this. It would be damaging to freeze and unfreeze. We don't know how way to do it yet. Well, the cryogenic technology is different somehow. They're seeking to bypass that or whatever. But I feel like that's what people will opt for in the interim. They'll be like, well, I'll just go on pause for a couple of years. Then they're going to let kids do it.

They're going to be like, if you're 13 and above, you're allowed to, you can stay there for about 10 years. Then you can be 23 instantly. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, with a neural a neural i'm derailing this conversation i'm thinking about super soldiers i just keep thinking about we need a super soldier program we better have one because we need to be prepared there's no way we have a super soldier program or at least not with the current federal government i'm sorry i just don't believe it we have such low military recruitment rates we constantly that's exactly why we would

have the program we lower the fitness standard so we can't even get soldiers into them on purpose because there's no way you know so you you are you are thinking this is about them i would like to recruit you to come here and get injected no they're taking babies 20 years ago injecting women in in the womb and then giving birth to dos like docile but aggressive what i mean by that is i should say submissive and easily commanded six foot five super ripped naturally like we do it to cows right like the u.s military is willing to drop nuclear bombs all over the planet blowing stuff up i would be surprised if they were not willing to genetically engineer babies 30 years ago. I would grant you that, except for the fact that our military constantly changes leadership everywhere.

So let's think about like Space Force, right? Trump was like, let's bring it back. And the Biden was like, no. But why the assumption that the military is disclosing to the public everything they're doing? I don't think they're disclosing to the public, but I don't think every federal administration would keep the program going. And there's no way it could grow fast enough. They lose so much money. There's so much money that's not accounted for.

I would not put anything on it. I don't understand how so many people think if I haven't heard it in the news, the military doesn't have it. It's not that I don't think we've had it in the news. I don't think that our federal government takes our military seriously enough to have that kind of force. I just don't trust them that much. It would be cool,, I don't think that our federal government takes our military seriously enough to have that kind of force. I just don't trust them.

It would be cool, but I don't think so. If you haven't heard the military doing it, you assume they're doing nothing. This actually is an argument for the inverse. If the military seems to be doing nothing, it's probably because they're bolstering in some other way. The military industrial complex is not going to just drop

their arms and be like, I guess we can't do anything anymore. And they're not going to come out and be like, we invented this new kind of bomb. If that is their premium top tier weapon, that makes no sense. What makes more sense is the military industrial complex wants more and more money for tons of stuff. They've been doing biological research with gain of function research. And we only just figured that out. Banned it. They brought it back so in in my view we know for a fact china well i should say

it's been reported by u.s intelligence officials that china has a super soldier program i'd be willing to bet the u.s the u.s military has crazy weapons you could not even think of the idea that imagine if when we were working on the manhattan project the u.s government immediately came out went to the press and said we are currently working on the nuclear bomb. Here's how it works and what it does. It will be commissioned in this way and it'll be located in these areas. That's insane.

Nobody knew what they were building. It was all speculation. And then was it Truman, right? He was like, let's blow up Japan to prove to the world the power that we have. And only then people went holy crap and the funny thing is when it happened news took a while to travel these days news travels fast i'm i'm willing to bet what makes the most sense is that the u.s has been working on insane military

tech that you don't know about and won't know about until they need to use it but they need someone to operate it and they just can't get anyone in the door to be part of the military you are making the assumption that they are telling you exactly their capabilities i'm not and not at all assuming that i'm just saying that our military is not in a strong state so maybe we have a lot of people who know how to operate these weapons that i don't know about i'm happy to grant you that there's no other hand there's no bad guys working in the government joe biden is so dumb game plan how do you keep the military alive you can't recruit people part of it even if i don't know what's going on they're not telling you they're actually recruiting a marvel movie

fantasy dream i'm happy i'm happy to say there's stuff i don't know about but i think ultimately our military is not something that our government is uh properly creating to sustain so there might be one project that has a really great weapon i'm sure they wouldn't tell us that's fine. But I don't think a super soldier project is something that they can actually manage to get off the ground. The police hear rumors that people are drinking illegally

during the prohibition era. Oh, this is a good one. And they walk past an apothecary and say, certainly there's no alcohol in there. That's just a regular old pharmacy. And they walk right past it because the guy put a sign

on the door saying pharmacy and we all believed it and then deep and then you walk in the door you push the the the the the bookcase and there's everybody drinking beer the idea that military is going to tell you their capabilities i think is absurd now don't get me wrong the forward-facing military as we know it is struggling that's in the news what i'm saying is china has a super soldier program the idea that the united states does not engage in unethical and psychotic behavior is that's the fantasy because we know that they were funding gain of function research illegally in violation of the law they did it and we only found out several years later i'm just so

that means it is a fact they are doing something behind the scenes we better have what i'm saying is back to tanks just getting genetically altered underground mountain bases man we better have millions of dudes just gestating right now they did mk ultra hundreds of thousands they strapped people to chairs and injected them with crazy ass chemicals decades ago why would they not be like we can make super also you want to up your recruitment, dude? Entice people with this genetic alteration. Get people to go be badass super soldiers. Well, what I think is interesting about when you're talking about Truman, if they let the bomb go and they knew it was going to be a referendum,

people would be like, we demand a vote on if you're going to do this. And that's why they wait. So they're not going to tell anybody they're experimenting on children. There's going to be a referendum. Especially now these days on Twitter, if you have a bad idea on Twitter, we can turn that around in a day and people will be like, that was a terrible idea. So we do have breaking news right now.

Adrian Norman tweeting, Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury has approved 10 indictments in the Trump investigation. So I think, how many were on that document that came out? Yeah, let's clarify this. 12?

I don't know. So it may be those were what they were proposing to the grand jury, and the grand jury approved ten of them. So this is the news we have right now. I'll try and see if there's any other developments here. What a colossal mess up. It says zero we're nullified by the grand jury right there.

It says zero? No build, whatever that means. Interesting. I hereby certify that on August 14th after the indictments had been presented to the grand jury and the session had been adjourned for the day said indictments were returned in open court as required by law present for said return

were assistant district attorney it says DeAndre I can't read the last name deputy sheriff and deputy clerk of the superior court on this date there were 10 indictments presented to the court of those indictments zero were no billed by the grand jury this is the 14th day of august so okay i think i know i think that people are saying 39 in the chat i don't know if that's 39 yeah it seems like a lot i don't know i've never seen anything saying 39 personally well so i i have the we have the document we pulled it up it's uh it says 159 11 so it just

says 39 okay yeah it said that 10 were presented to the court zero were no billed i think 13 are listed here it's 13 yeah okay and i don't know how many counts in total. So I wonder what this document was, but I wonder if they just said do 10. Yeah. Oops. We published the document. Do 10.

I like it matters to him. There we go. This is one of the nicking files. This is it. Trump is being indicted. Nice. Once again in Georgia. Did they indict him for that Rico charge?

I guess it doesn't say on that. No, I've done. I don't think the news news is just out right now this is breaking right now all right so i've got nbc let's pull up nbc here and see if we've got uh fulton county grand jury returns 10 indictments in 2020 election probe for georgia it is not yet clear who has been charged in fannie willis's investigation into efforts by trump okay so we don't know if it's Trump, but it's Trump.

Let's see, a docket appeared on the website shortly at noon. They took it down. Willis enlisted a special grand jury. 75 witnesses testified, blah, blah, blah. So that's it. This is the breaking news. There's nothing else right now. We're getting at 9.24 p.m.

The indictments are coming in. So what next? What does a sane, rational person in this country do watching all of this stuff break down and fall apart? Start to look into the private sector for solutions. I wouldn't flee. I'm not going to flee because I think the concept of uniting states as your government is the best form of government on Earth. And we have states rights. So that's awesome. I don't like this current government that's being the people that are running this and the way it's been co-opted the last hundred years.

But this organization of statehood is badass. I think that in the private sector, we can find solutions. I just found out yesterday that they've, so they're trying to make hydrogen fuel. There's three types of fuel. Fuel is something you can put in a bottle. It's either hydrogen, carbon, or plutonium. Those are the three types of fuel. Fuel is something you can put in a bottle. It's either hydrogen, carbon, or plutonium. Those are the only types of fuel on earth that we know of. We've had a hard time figuring out how to make hydrogen fuel because it's so expensive to make. It creates a lot of carbon dioxide.

Well, now they hit plastic with lasers and they make hydrogen fuel and they produce all this graphene as byproduct that they can sell. You actually make money to produce hydrogen fuel. You're making $4.50 for every kilogram of hydrogen fuel fuel you're producing so we can become a hydrogen manufacturing production facility that's great but doesn't change the fact that a bunch of communists are taking it lowers energy costs which lowers the pressure on the people on the civilianry when the civilianry can get together and focus we can protect ourselves and prevent this nonsense well i actually think that would make people more docile and accepting of the communist revolution. Oh, I think that street violence would make them more because if you have the dialectic, you want an oppressor and oppressed, you want a villain and a hero, and then people want to join a side.

And that's how the communists want to win is by bifurcating. So the issue right now for the U.S. is that you have this extreme level of violence and political instability, but people are still fat. And so and I mean that figuratively and literally so they're kind of like look man i'm not going to rock the boat because my paycheck comes in and there's food on the counter so if you're mad if you're if you're simplifying and producing cleaner and better energy then you lower the likelihood of instability and increase the likelihood that the revolutionaries take over you think that you think that stability is makes it more likely for a revolution i think instability yeah the more stable we can make it the less likely there will

be a communist takeover so no no no no energy will make it more no no no the communist takeover is happening through the institutions but it's happening by people saying black people or and white people they're trying to get us to fight each other and and even though we are not poor people and rich people basically that's a big one poor people and rich people politicians and non-politicians things are improving in this country greatly and have been improving considerably over the past several decades so the far-left extremists start getting jobs in institutions and firing anyone who disagrees with their ideology if there's a breakdown in the system in terms of food shelter water health care etc then that stops because it goes to chaos.

That could theoretically benefit a communist revolution or it could hinder it because multiple factions can end up fighting. But right now you have all of these people who are gaining control of institutions. I think just creating a wonder, wonder energy or whatever is going to make people be like, I'm going them do whatever they want because i get good stuff i don't think so only because what's happening is this wealth gap we've seen the last the consolidation of wealth to the top 0.001 percent or whatever it's creating this diet like the people at the bottom that's the breeding grounds for a revolution is when you have people that can't afford food so if we can if we can make yes there's still going to be a wealth gap but the poorest among us will still be very wealthy relative because they have free energy or super super cheap electricity how

different do you guys think this would be if the economy was ripping right now if biden was actually ripping in the economy like how do you think people would feel like if all this stuff going on with trump if people were eating well and they had the same stock stocks that they had with trump do you think this everybody would be like as in on all like no they'd be'd be saying... So Trump supporters would be exactly where they are, but you'd have more moderate middle-of-the-road people saying things like, you guys are crazy. It's better than ever.

You need to let it go. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So why don't you... Why if you're Biden, why don't you just keep on with that? He's been in politics for this long. Because he can't.

Because he doesn't know how. They're completely incompetent and incapable. And I don't... Look, honestly, I have no idea. They just acknowledge they're going to start pulling capable and i i don't look i honestly i have no idea they just acknowledge they're gonna start pulling carbon dioxide out of the air they've got so many activists in there and it's got it's insane that they went like he's been in politics for 50 years and i guess he's out of his mind like he's basically an old man with dementia at this point but like how do you just completely see like the economy is the number

one thing in america that people universally helps everyone like as long as the economy is high no matter who you are whether it goes trickles all the way down i mean i know we have a huge wealth gap problem but why don't you focus on that i guess they're trying to switch our economy over to green stuff i guess that might be long-term something they think is going to be beneficial but trump had so many people love trump because they had more money in their wallets than they had previously i I think they want the grid decentralized. I think the real reason for climate change stuff is, one, it's a means of control to manipulate people into implementing policies that decentralize the U.S. electrical grid. Yeah, and that's not a bad goal to make the electrical grid more resilient.

I think that's a noble goal. You know, shutting down coal plants isn't the right move. It's expensive and the return is worse. So if you go to the American people and say, we're concerned about war, we're concerned about conflict and natural disasters, so we want to implement programs that will incentivize decentralizing the electrical grid,

people are going to be like, yeah, I'm fine with coal, buzz off. So they go, the end is nigh. Okay, now you have to do it. The one thing for me, I'm not even like totally against green energy and i don't like that word i hate hearing it because i feel like every person i've ever talked to that was affiliated with some kind of grifter that like the when you see where the money goes

like bring modesta in to be the guy to be the guy and letting him be in control the money after obama literally wouldn't let this guy touch any like energy that one energy deal of hansberg weiss back when he was in office and you're gonna bring him back he's like weiss's best friend or whatever you're gonna bring him back to give him 386 million dollars to dole out whenever that was i don't know what green bill that was i was a while ago like how are we gonna trust you to be like to for our future if you're just gonna give it to grifters and like have that money how where is it gonna go like it's gonna go to that other guy that foreign guy's pocket. Yeah, it's like laundering and stuff.

We need a psychological, I hate using this word revolution over and over. We need scientists in public office, in the White House and in Congress. We need more scientists that understand the technical revolution that we're on right now. Free software, graphene, hydrogen power, fusion, things like that. Things that you can, I can maybe fusion i guess you get to a point if you can't control the energy supply then maybe that that might become a problem i would i would just take some reasonable people like we have a plenty of scientists we just need reasonable people in office that are willing to listen to people that have a slightly different opinion than like the you know whatever the party line is because we just we literally just need a

reasonable people but the problem is a lot of reasonable people won't decide to be in politics we also need to learn how to upscale coal and oil because the oil industry has so much influence over our government. So we need to learn how to, oh, oil's pretty cool,

reuse it when we burn it and turn coal into graphene to make it burn cleaner, reuse it. So it's not like we're going to stop. We shouldn't go at those guys. We really need to use the carbon. The carbon's super, super important.

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generally trying to get information to lots of people, so you have to have someone who can sell it. That's one of the arguments against any kind of economic program or any kind of environmental issue is that no one can package it that well because the average attention span is so short, and's actually not unreasonable that was my old job i mean i was a comms director on the hill like we couldn't relate to your voters to the most people

as possible you have to do simple messaging not be not necessarily i mean speaking ill about any of it and this is both sides you have to find what will resonate they're not just the person that graduated from high school graduate from college went ivy league you got to make sure that every person no matter their education level has a good idea of what you're trying to sell like what you're saying to them what you bring the table versus someone else and it it's so oversimplifies stuff it makes people like that's why you have like build the wall was build the wall thing yeah you want to build the wall but there's a host of policies surrounding that like to fund the police is to fund the police the thing yeah but there's a host

of policies that go around in that but it's way easier to say defund the police or build a wall we need a great project the da's office is going to be holding a press conference after the indictments are processed by the clerk's office this could take between one and three hours so we'll be long in bed by then but uh so i guess it come come the morning we're gonna we're gonna figure out exactly what's going on it may not be indictments for Trump. Apparently, they didn't say these were indictments for Trump. And the Trump indictments listed 13 charges. But I don't know what that means.

Could it mean that they're planning on indicting co-conspirators, Trump's lawyers, Sidney Powell, perhaps, Rudy Giuliani? Or could it be Trump, but they didn't indict him on three of the 13 charges, and it's still then? The reason these charges may have been filed is because they already returned trump's indictments but the grand jury is actually looking at multiple people with maybe i don't know if it's possible maybe it'll come up while we're on the after show and we'll see it in real time maybe it'll happen after we're about to go to super chats i just want to kind of echo what you're saying that we need a great works project we need something that we can all focus on and build together as a society. It was the wall. Trump said,

let's build a wall. Everyone's like, yeah, I want to build a space elevator. I want to build graphene tethered space elevator with 60 different elevators up and down so we can make space. If we can galvanize our culture to focus on a great work on a great, like a,

a gigantic, like, like the Notre Dame cathedral or like the, the, you know, that's scary. Cause you think like, that's the climate change thing. Like we're or like the the you know that's scary because you think like that's the climate change thing like we're saving the world like that's like you have certain groups of people that use that same kind of mentality that one world so that one government system and that's what people get scared and now especially on our side we have people that are always going to be like scared of stuff like that which is what the difficulty i find like even just

think about how am i going to message this to make everybody in America, you know, come to a realization that like, we're all the same people. Like we want the same things, you know, there's really serious problems like that we should address. We start 3d printing houses. And I think that's a big,

that technology is available right now. They're doing it in China quite frequently. And that would help solve a lot of problems in one of them, including homelessness. Let's start 3d printing houses. We're going to go to super chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?

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But for now, we're going to read your Super Chats. I'm not your guy, friend, says Did I Make It? LOL, also, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to Ecuador Trump. They are so so desperate you did make it but only because our good friend i'm not your buddy guy is no longer posting because he says work is picking up so you are now the first poster congratulations south park meme guy waffle senses says i feel like the internet is showing that the revolution will in fact be televised in a certain respect i know it's cliche but i kind of get the whole this this is the last election argument. I don't know if the will

to fight will be there after this. Will to fight isn't the thing, I don't think. I think that's a misconception. This idea, again, that a bunch of people meet behind a podium and bang a gavel and say, we hereby declare. Like this is not reality. Reality is nobody has a will to fight until they're backed into a corner and then all of a sudden they're fighting and that's it clearly the people raiding nordstrom and nike stores have a will to fight so someone's gonna back someone else to a corner and a fight's gonna break out let's read some more super chats mike e says with young men more conservative i'm afraid it won't be long before the establishment escalates things in europe and ships those young men off to war that's one way to get rid of them yeah draft them all and then uh-oh whoops except for the rich kids they get deferments because of

bone spurs yep that's what happened in vietnam it was disgusting kenneth hart says saw your coffee ad you guys should totally uh you guys should totally do an ad in the style of evil dead 2 seamus can be the one in the basement brewed by dawn lol one of the ideas we had now was because everyone keeps asking what would have happened to ian if he didn't drink the coffee and we're like maybe someone runs from roberto jr and then either doesn't get the coffee made in time or they like fumble the beans and drop them on the floor and they're like no no and then when roberto jr comes like i'm making i'm making it but it's too late and then it just shows them screaming and backing into a corner and cowering and then it heavily insinuates you see like the shadow of the rooster

pecking just and blood splattering all in silhouette i wonder if if we could start the next commercial at the end of the last commercial i'm like waking up from a dream of the last commercial and it's like and then the rooster appears again and i'm like ah but i don't have the coffee on this one no no no no the next one needs to be you walk into a room holding the thing of coffee and your eyes are glowing you say hello friends you should try cast brew coffee tastes good and everyone's like oh thanks ian this is really great wow that was really nice of you then they drink it and all their eyes and then they're like this is good that's a good one i have to say i am actually

drinking this coffee or i did drink this coffee it's pretty it's pretty good it's really good i was like at first i'm gonna be honest with everybody the appalachian nights is so good i've been chugging it and i was thinking to to myself, maybe it's because I'm getting fresh coffee. Because we make it fresh, we ship it out in small, we make them in small batches. And I was like, it can't be that good, can it? And, uh, I gotta be completely honest. So then I had some of the French

roast, and I was like, oh, it's okay. And I was like, wow. Like, the Appalachian Nights is just really good. The French roast is just French roast. I was like, you know, it's French roast, it's okay. It's coffee. But man, I, Stand Your Grounds, Roberto jr and appalachian nights like all of them i just think i'm like man these are these are amazing those are blends though and the french roast is like a regular french roast so could be it i don't know enough about coffee to know the difference coffee's such a wild thing light roast has a more fruity flavor the beans are are they're

less roasted so you get more of the beans' actual flavor. Dark roast is more earthy because it's darker. And then medium is obviously medium. Is French, does that mean it's actually

from France? I don't, no. No, French roast is a style of a very, very dark roast. So it kind of nukes a lot of the coffee flavor. So Appalachian Nights is a very robust dark roast,

but it's got a deep, like, chocolatey flavor. I just, I'm going to stop ranting about Casper Coffee. You guys all know to get Tim for Christmas. Just to buy my coffee. Darren Middleton says, hello, Timcast. I've purchased my rise with Roberto Jr. coffee beans. I'm in Australia and I'll tell you what I think of your beans.

Rip Roberto Jr. It was supposed to be him in the commercial, but his feet were covered with crap. And so Kim tried to wash his feet as she's done multiple times for many of the chickens and roberto jr croaked literally went and then he just died he died suddenly yeah how old was the rooster he's like two damn uh and then we just found out that one of his sisters died oh no i gotta be honest sadness these were the first fertilized eggs that we got that we incubated and we assumed them to be a weak batch yeah and we were still pretty fresh about how to raise chickens from eggs like don't

take the lid off ever i don't know if we did it right we did all that right we had three eggs in the incubator with um with roberto and his sisters and uh one of them died so uh slightly they're chickens man like this is chicken life. Yeah. Slightly on topic. Are we shipping to Canada? I do believe there is international shipping. I don't.

I'm assuming it's launched. Someone said they purchased there in Australia. Australia. That's hot. Yeah. Right. Let's grab some more super chats. Alessio De Monte says 2024 is going to be wild.

Rising cost of living everywhere bias doj no border control new york city and chicago residents want immigrants out last but not least biden sending out a total of 250 billion to ukraine to fight russia yeah oh boy all i gotta say to that is no comment did you see biden went down there like what do you think about what's happening in mali no comment dude no comment is comment. It's crazy he couldn't even manage a like, this is very sad. Like we're praying for whoever. Like no comment is his response. He didn't care.

Because he doesn't know what he's talking about because he's not there. He's tripped over so much stuff. They've told him not to speak and like he's just completely out. Yeah, that's what I thought too. Paul Tascalo says, I'm a lawyer. In 2015, I represented an Iranian American man indicted for selling micro electronics to iran to build a nuclear to build a nuclear missile wow what happened to trump today is the most terrifying thing i've seen in our legal system wow crazy assumedly to trump we'll find out the pippin viking says y'all should have brandon herrera on just launched his campaign for

congress in texas 23. Sounds good. We'll get to it. Camgirl as soon as says, Tim, given the current overt cheating being perpetrated, do you find the claims of 2020 cheating and ballot fraud to be more or less plausible? Not asking if it did, but if current acts make it seem more or less likely. It makes it seem less likely. This is the point. The way they cheat is exactly like what they're doing now the governor changed

the voting rules benefiting democrats the legislature in pennsylvania and the courts changed the rules benefiting democrats they did not need ballot fraud and fake ballots and chinese ballots or any of that stuff all they needed to do was put a bunch of rocks on the scales in favor of Democrats. What I think they loved was that immediately Mike Lindell, Sidney Powell, Giuliani, Trump came out with the most outlandish and insane conspiracies, thus stopping anyone from figuring out what they actually did until they published an article titled The Shadow Campaign That Saved the election. And they explained what they did with voting in the park and ballot harvesting and ballot chasing.

And then it's like, ah, now don't get me wrong. Obviously we know about, uh, there was a couple hundred to a few thousand, depending on your source, duplicated ballots in Georgia. Those were reportedly removed because they were found out by a watchdog. I think that any, any good plan to manipulate someone needs a red herring. The fact that there was talk of Dominion voting systems and all of this stuff was the perfect distraction that threw Republicans, Trump supporters off base and had them saying really dumb things. And and then they were chasing the wrong things. Now, I also want to add this too

none of the lawsuits actually ever got heard yeah all the lawsuits were thrown on standing so it's like i don't know if they were actually chasing a dumb thing or if they were just making i think they were making claims without evidence that's the biggest problem what whether or not they're chasing that there was um malfeasance on proprietary voting machines in secret like okay seek it out find out let's find out but don't claim that it is if you don't have the evidence but the lawsuits were thrown on standing they never even heard the evidence so there were a whole bunch of suspect things things that were obvious and apparent there's uh like uh the the the with fulton county in the news there were duplicate bouts there were bouts that were scanned more than once and then they got

removed because a watchdog group said hey look, look, we found these. This made Trump and many others think, hey, we better do a check on these other systems because if they only check this one, it could be the case in other places. That is entirely possible. But I think the reality is ballot harvesting, ballot chasing, the executives changing the rules in violation of the state of the Constitution because the state legislature is ultimately at final say. And then Mike Pence should have what should have happened is Mike Pence should have said lawsuits have not been heard. And so these ballots are being sent back. He should have done that.

And he didn't. And he called it a crackpot legal theory. And then, oopsie, he went on TV and admitted he had the authority to send back votes and push the vote to the House of Representatives. And every all these mainstream results were talking about it, that it would go to House delegations to vote on who the president would be, considering Mike Pence said state legislatures have not certified approved of the way in which the vote was held. More importantly, there were 48 states involved in a lawsuit over whether or not what I think Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and a few other states did was legal.

And that got thrown out. I don't know if that was standing, but it's original. It's called original jurisdiction and it goes to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said we will not hear this case. So it was never even heard. My point is simply this. Impropriety happens in every election to the degree, I suppose, is the argument. A lot of people are like Trump only lost because of fraud. And I'm like, I think Trump lost because they changed the rules to benefit themselves, exploited those rule changes, and then got a bunch of people locked in their houses to vote. And that's what did it.

I don't think you need to duplicate ballots to beat Trump. So they're like 81 million votes. OK, let's say a million were duplicates. Let's say a million were fake. They still had 6 million more votes. Why? They locked everyone in their house, told them they couldn't leave, killed elderly people in nursing homes, sent ballot chasers to the homes of the people who are locked inside

and said, it's Trump's fault. Sign this and it'll all go away. I think that really is rather simple. How many elderly people were killed with the COVID policies when they put COVID patients into nursing homes for no reason? New York was wild. New York, Pennsylvania, California did it. I don't know, man.

I'm not saying any of that was intentional. I'm saying it had an impact. And Cuomo kind of got off of that completely. Nobody gave Cuomo that hard a time about in New York with all those nursing home deaths yeah I feel like that was something that he kind of really I mean you know the sexual assault thing comes into play and all of a sudden that's the biggest thing in the news like the sexual whatever it was I don't know if he actually had a sexual assault but he had like a sexual misconduct allegations think if they end up calling it Steve McGee says Ian we need a weigh-in uh 139 you went down yeah i was traveling this last week and i was on

the road for like 20 hours so i didn't get to eat my 2800 calories i was putting in like 17 or 1800 but all three of those days uh and my creatine hasn't been i've upped my creatine to i think 10 grams a day now but i wasn't doing 10 grams every day up that one i wasn't working out because i was in the airport yeah um yeah but i was at 150 but then it went back down to 144 but and then i'm down to 50 yeah i was at 150 a couple weeks ago for one night and then it was back to 144 the next day so like water weight big huge dump constant dump and uh but it stayed at about 139 for like four or five days all weekend i expected to come back and weigh in at like 134, 136, but it was still 139.

I think it was 140 before I came up here earlier after I did a protein shake. How do you feel? I feel really good. I do not want to stuff myself, but that's like, they're like, stuff yourself, stuff yourself. I'm like, oh, I just don't,

I just like this like slow push towards gaining weight, but we're doing it a little bit faster than I'm comfortable with. I bought this protein powder. It's like like i thought it's called gold standard or something i got no beef but they got splenda in it sucralose and so i buy it i'm drinking it and i'm like kind of sweet right there's no sugar in that look and sucralose is one of the ingredients and i'm like right in the garbage yep and then i looked up i searched protein powder no sucralose and jaco i think it's called milk how do you pronounce the o with the umlaut is it yo his last name is that what you're saying

jaco jaco and that's called milk it's it's jaco's protein powder and it's got monk fruit extract instead oh it is the most delicious protein powder I've ever had. Yeah, dude. No questions asked. That's cool. I'm blown away. Jocko's protein. Oh, I want to try some of that. Yeah. Is that how you pronounce it?

Mjolk? Mjolk? Mjolk? Mjolk? I think so. Mjolk? Mjolk? Mjolk?

Mjolk? Mjolk? It's like O with an umlaut, I think. Is that how you say it? I'm good on the protein over here, so I'll let you guys do that one. Yeah. Yeah, it's really good. Shout out to Jocko, his first protein powder.

Oh, there's all sorts of flavors. Mint chocolate, banana. No, mint gross. Strawberry. Yeah, it's really good. Shout out to Jocko. His first protein powder. Oh, there's all sorts of flavors. Mint chocolate, banana. Mint gross. Strawberry. Chocolate peanut butter is really good. The vanilla is really good. And there's no sucralose in it. There's like very few ingredients.

Is it whey protein? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's whey protein. It's got monk fruit extract. And I was very impressed. It's whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolate, egg albumin, and mycelial casein. Casein? And probiotics.

Oh, wow. That's awesome. Yeah. Cocoa powder. Very amazing. This looks good. Did you all see the, like, Diet Coke? It came out, like, the aspartame thing that we all knew about Diet Coke.

They finally, like, admitted to it, like, a couple, like, what was it, a month or two ago? Links to cancer. Yeah, they're just terrible for you. And, like, nobody cares. Dude. Everybody drinks Diet Coke. I don't drink that stuff.

That's nasty. The story of Searle and Donald Rumsfeld and Diet Coke and aspartame becoming legal is horrendous. You got to look into it. Yeah. All right. Matthew Wilford with him says you fools keep saying Trump 24 when he lost last time. He's older and much more damaged now. What's the difference?

Who are you voting for? Vivek. I'll vote for Vivek. Yeah, I'm going to vote for Vivek. Vivek is just he's hitting every he's hitting out of the park every time. Yeah. Right? It's just...

He's nailing it. You know, I don't agree with everybody. I don't agree with Vivek on... I'm sorry to interrupt. What were you going to say? I was going to say, I thought his ceiling was Fox Business Host, but I feel like now he's really picked up.

I thought this was all going to be a big... Because with these guys, they come into the elections, they're not actually serious, and all of a sudden people really really like this guy like he like he's what he's above pulling above the sanis now like he's like a real like i'm not gonna say a contender trump's to like what 50 45 or whatever it is high but like vivek is gonna be here to stay what i think is like i don't like everything about everybody there's no one that i like everything about what they say i don't agree with everything someone says nobody and i don't like everything about everybody. There's no one that I like everything about what they say. I don't agree with everything someone says.

Nobody. And I don't agree with everything Vivek says. And I'd go hard to the paint with that guy about debates if I got it. But he's the guy. He's the brilliant young man that I want in the office right now. I don't know. I like Vivek a lot. There's some stuff that I just don't agree with him on.

A lot of it comes down to immigration. And I think there should be more restriction on legal immigration as well as illegal. But I'm glad that he is in the conversation. I think he's doing a lot for the Republican Party just by breathing new life into it. There was so much infighting with just the DeSantis Trump team. There still is, obviously, that at a certain point, you're just there halting any sort of progress forward. So he's doing all of us a favor, even if he's not exactly who I would pick. It's nice to have billionaires or multimillionaires doing it so they don't have to raise money. The whole DeSantis pandering for money thing

was really pathetic. I like guys that just self-made. And he was supposed to be the guy that was getting all the donors too. People were supposed to be afraid of Trump and so DeSantis was going to get all the big money donors but it still looks like it's not taking. You're still third. Vivek? You're not a

DeSantis person? I mean, I thought he was the future. And he's just not the person that, like, Trump's the ultimate personality. And I think part of it, and people don't understand, like, Trump was on TV for so long. So many Americans know him so well. And you can't just be DeSantis and come in and not be personable. I can summarize it very simply um ron de santis his campaign explicitly told their people not to come on this show vivek ramaswamy has been on

teamcast irel twice dude he came on when you weren't even here once when i was not even here he's on shimcast he's on shimcast and he came on the culture war for a one-on-one conversation that was really really great he doesn't shy away from conversations he'll allow people to ask him challenging uh questions and he'll answer them very quickly ronda's antics campaign cowers in fear and just flame wars on twitter it's just wow it's embarrassing it's crazy like him he's doing a great job in florida but campaign wise they're just like walking out into a field and farting. Yeah. Did you feel like his change in staffing

was going to help at all? He has a new chief of staff or something, right? I know. I said, great. It's good that he did it, but nah. Well, it's interesting. I don't know if that dude can recover at this point. It's remarkable.

His campaign manager was this woman. They fired her, but they didn't fire her from the campaign. I think they just fired her from being the campaign manager. Right. So how do you keep that person on? Like with your, and everything's tanking.

Like that just, I don't know. Well, there is one of the, one of the controversies that was in the news was that he fired Will Chamberlain. And Will's a friend, a friend of the show and one of my friends. And they fired him. And then his, and then his governor's office hired them and so that was a huge scandal because i don't think anyone really cares that much but they were like a lot of people immediately pointed out trump supporters pointed it out you basically have

someone who's living in dc now working for the florida governor through their florida governor's office but they live and work in dc so what the argument was he was using florida taxpayer dollars to pay the salary of a communications expert in dc for his political campaign that's a bad look well it's a bad look you know i'm not gonna i can't i don't want to be biased because i'm friends with will but that's what the media reported i don't know what to say about it well let's grab uh we'll grab some more super chats here rudy cassone says if my memory is right only about a third of american of the american population supported the revolution i believe it's actually more than that there was a letter written where i can't remember who said this they said a third supports it a third opposes it and a third doesn't care but that wasn't a legitimate

poll it was just like an opinion statement i think it was actually closer to half but not over half i think i i think it was all and like opposition was only like 20 support was like 39 to 40 and then don't care was the remainder i think don't care was bigger than opposition let's see i wonder if they pulled like 500 people and then they extrapolated it to five million sorry dabo d'azafa says oliver anthony's rich men north of richmond is not a song but rather an anthem it's a great song i dig it and uh he lives super close he's he's not that far away a couple hours but i love how the left is responding to this saying that he's an industry plant that he's complaining about welfare it's the best yeah and it's just like i remember i

remember when the the left used to sing about the oppress oppression of the working class right but now they're they're just cheering on neil young man amazon and walmart yeah creed is clear water dude that's like you know bring it back yes yeah i remember when the when the song was uh some uh some folks are born made to wave the flag and it's like a song talking about how when the draft comes you've got these

wealthy individuals who can dodge it. You know, I'm not a senator's son. Now, these are the people cheering for war in Ukraine. Yeah,

it's wild. Crazy, crazy turn of events, you know what I mean? I can't wait for that New York Times hit piece on that guy. Like,

this random dude that just made one popular song in the middle of nowhere and they're gonna send a liberal reporter to go try to ruin his life dude he's a factory worker and we're calling about industry plan i'm like that's that's not how that word works that's not what that means i think they're just jealous of his glorious beard it's got like the most intense ginger beard i've ever seen it's so incredibly orange yeah triton 54 says raising my glass to jeremy

hamlin tonight he unexpectedly lost his father this morning i'm sure he'd appreciate a kind word sorry to hear it jeremy uh i hope you i hope everything uh beyond this is okay i hope you're doing all right and i hope it it you know i hope uh i hope for the best yeah let me know if you need anything man i love you man where are we at noren blither says hey tim cast irel can you put in a word to youtube to cough up the 100k plaque to my favorite female youtuber at the crimson cure it would mean a lot thanks i can say that there's not much else i can do not like youtube's got a hotline i can call uh but uh there you go maybe someone at youtube heard me read that i do know that there's people at youtube who do watch the show every night how often do you guys how frequently do you get the fact once you hit the number what's the delay on getting uh because

you've done it multiple times you're the only expert in the room or maybe you've gotten one i don't know so here's here's how it works because i'm uh uh you know i'll just i'll just say i'm a little crafty the first time uh i had 100k nothing happened and i was like so what's supposed to happen how do i get the silver medal or whatever, silver award? Several months later, like six or seven months later, a drop down bar appeared and it said, congratulations on reaching 100,000 subs. Click here to get your award, which brings you to a portal for a website. They send, they give you a code. You put in that code and it allows you to claim your plaque.

You, it says, what's your channel? What's your code and then you submit the next time i hit 100k i did not get the drop down several months went by so what i did was i went and found the url from the last time i had logged in used the old code and then when it asked me for my channel name put in my other channel name and it worked. Interesting. And I'm telling you, that's what I did. Because I guess the company then checked the YouTube channel, connected it and said it does have 100,000 subs. It does qualify. And then I did that again for all the rest.

You have like one link in code? We actually got two gold plaques for one of the channels. Dude, I want some brand notoriety with you guys at youtube we got to do like a youtube timcast event yeah i doubt that that would be the coolest thing but we used to do youtube stuff all the time man youtube events youtube live yeah they had they had they had uh they had i think uh libertarian party candidate on with phil defranco in uh 2012 or something like that because they were like we want to challenge the system and no now they're because like rumble rumble's all about

branding their people and i'm not saying we're going to wear youtube hats but it'd be cool to do a youtube event yeah steven says says ian in both hebrew and greek the word for justice includes mercy only in latin did justice equal vengeance interesting that is very interesting jason hudgenson says we're in an age of reality denial up is down down is up people get money for nothing stolen from people that create like the gods of the copy book heading headings the longer we deny reality the greater the terror and slaughter when reality returns hmm yeah let's grab a couple more wolfsbane93 says shout out for brandon herrera running it for district 23 in texas shout out gabriel lopez says nukes are fake the japan ones were just tons of tnt the cities there right now are radiation

free and built better than american cities a democrat governor does more damage than that haha but i don't think the nukes are fake because um we've blown up many of them there's videos and i don't think tnt can do all of that but uh you need to understand radiation is a choice i was reading about nukes i did a i did a video for discovery you can watch it it's called um like how i forgot what it's called how powerful our nuclear weapons or something got like a million views overnight it was it was a big video we did a bunch of research on it and um i learned that the reason there's radiation in a nuclear explosion is because they want there to be for long-standing damage long-lasting damage so it's possible to have nukes without it aren't there nukes now that don't have it or something like that there's always been

oh really yeah always been uh there's like nukes nuclear bombs that have almost no radiation and a massive incendiary wave like they've built crazy stuff just like the super soldiers in the basement perhaps uh yeah someone someone did point out i missed the super chat but they did point out that the u.s literally did have a super soldier program they tried to create psychic soldiers oh like they don't still no that's the point they had the men who stare at goats i hope they do and they also uh they were trying to create psychic soldiers oh i'm so into that you guys i can come like i can train your psychics they did mk ultra the men who stare at goats it's like come on you know that there's another program where they're trying to do something else they're not telling us about

i was gonna say earlier like there's there's a reason they failed the audit you know there's a reason yeah yeah that's that's that's one of the craziest that video who was that with was that bill mayer where they was talking to the mar he's talked about it numerous times yeah that was one of the like she's like i don't know where it is like he's like yeah the account of the like yeah they know el camote says speaking of aspartame i'm seeing youtube ads promoting aspartame is safe oh that is laughable wow no way i'm not a doctor though i don't know i just don't drink the garbage all right everybody i i try to i i try to stay away from things that aren't food so that's why when i found out there was sucralose in my

which is basically splenda was in my protein powder i was like i will i am not going to drink this and then when i looked up uh jaco's mulch i guess that he pronounced it yeah anyone mulch i don't know how to pronounce it oh with it yeah mulch it's funny uh when i looked it up and uh the ingredients are very simple i was like that's legit but i think you ian you're actually just drinking straight way yeah uh naked way nothing else in the name literally that's my main one then i have this this uh bulk fattening one where they really want me to has tons of crap in it but the other one is just pure naked wayey. I love that stuff. Ian's agreed to eat a pint of Ben and Jerry's

every night before the final shoot. Fake news. Fake news. No, no. I did not along with you when you were saying to do it. Tim suggested I do that. The four days before the final shoot. Eat a pint of Ben and Jerry's every night before the shoot. There'll be a better fat. Maybe I'll just eat sour cream. I'll just eat loads of it

for a couple days. That maybe I'll just eat sour cream. I'll just eat loads of it. Like for a couple of days. That sounds so much worse. Yeah, that does sound worse. That's probably way better to be completely honest. Yeah. Why not? What's a good avocado and sour cream? Yeah, that sounds awesome.

With some like paprika on it and some salt. That sounds hot. And just eat a thing of sour cream. Hell yeah, dude. With some shrimp. I don't like sour cream though. So this just sounds a little horrible to me. I love it.

I probably eat like a cup of a couple of sour cream with every fajita dinner i do yeah but i also do like a one-fourth cup of heavy whipping cream for breakfast that's all i have i don't have a full breakfast i just have heavy cream in my coffee and then i eat dinner that's it you know i ate a couple pieces of cheesecake when we went out to dinner a couple weeks ago and then that did increase my appetite putting that sugar in my stomach sugar will do it yeah what um uh i think it was and WK. I could be wrong. Party hard?

Yeah, he said if you want to gain weight, because a lot of people struggle with it, you eat something salty, and then after a little while, you'll crave something sweet, eat something sweet. Then after a little while, you'll crave something salty, and you go back and forth, and you'll bulk up real quick. But not necessarily in the good way. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, but more importantly, become a member at timcast.com by clicking join us to support our

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