Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #842 Project Veritas CEO FIRES Everyone As Donations END Over Okeefe Betrayal w/Sean Spicer
Episode Date: August 18, 2023Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Sean Spicer to discuss Project Veritas firing all of its employees, Trump's lawyers requesting a trial date of April 2026, a Georgia State Senator moving to impea...ch Fani Willis for indicting Trump, & Oliver Anthony's hit song "Rich Men North Of Richmond" expected to hit number one on Billboard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Project Veritas has reportedly fired the entirety of its staff related to news.
Now, I don't know the full details.
We don't know exactly what that means.
There was a tweet that went out that said, SOS, Hannah Giles has fired everybody.
But this is completely unsurprising.
They betrayed James O'Keefe.
And it was only a matter of time before they ran out of money and were forced to fire everybody.
So what we're hearing is that news operations and these individuals, they're all gone.
It's over.
And so that's the big breaking story that's happening right now.
But we do have a lot to talk about.
Donald Trump has responded to the indictment and he is asking the court for an April 20,
26th trial date.
That's right.
17 months after the election, he wants to have that trial.
So we will see how that plays out.
I have a feeling they may remand Trump to custody.
Everyone keeps saying, no, they won't do that.
That would go too far.
But I'm sorry.
When we said they would indict his lawyers,
they said that would go too far.
When we said Trump would be indicted,
people were like, that would go too far.
No matter what seems to be happening,
everyone keeps saying, ah, that'll never happen.
Then it happens.
Oh, Antifa will never kill a guy in the street. Then they kill a guy in the street. Oh, Trump's not going
to get indicted. Then he gets indicted four times on like 90 plus counts. Then they indict his
lawyers. So yeah, that may be coming. And then we have some really amazing cultural news.
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about what's going on with Trump's legal affairs. We've got Sean Spicer. Good to be with you guys
again. I'm excited to be back. Brand new show coming out Monday,
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And as I said, before we went on air,
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conventions, debates, the race for 270.
I'm going to break it down every
day what are the rules and how can we win i think too often the right doesn't get what it takes to
win we need to know the rules if we're actually going to win so i'm excited to be here tonight
absolutely plus uh as i mentioned just before the show we were already talking about what goes into
these legal challenges the amount of time energy the hundreds of thousands of dollars yep and uh it
was starting to get good i'm like we better hold off because uh you know you were you were agreeing
to an extent that we ain't seen nothing yet i mean i think your your analysis was spot on right
this is we we keep thinking and this is the problem with and part of the reason i wanted to
launch the show and frankly just to be a little praiseworthy here you've led the way in this
independent media and i've been in a huge admirer of of frankly the empire that you guys have built
and you've done it every single night and i i hope that i have half of the energy that you guys do
every night uh but but that's the point is that we keep saying and you said this a minute ago
it will never come to this oh we can you know this is what if we don't start playing better
and by understanding the rules and how we can use them to win then we're we're gonna you might as
well give up but earlier today somebody said can trump win i'm like yes of course trump can win
we keep falling into the sense of letting the left change the rules we saw it during covid
over and over again you talked about it with the legal consequences if we don't start using the
rules for our on our side to win then we will
never and they get it they understand the money and the activism that it takes to change things
you know and then we keep falling behind the thing and the the eight ball and so this is what's
happening you brought it up legally they we keep saying this will never happen yes it will it keeps
getting worse it keeps getting worse and then we go well, it won't get even more worse. And it gets more worse.
We'll jump in all that.
I want to save it because the experiences you had dealing with Mueller was already massively enlightening.
So thanks for joining us.
You bet.
Should be real fun.
We have Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out.
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
I'm really excited for tonight's conversation.
Ian's here too.
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wearing my anti-socialist social club shirt that i got from Conservative Ant yesterday. Let's just jump into it.
Here's the breaking news right now.
Project Veritas CEO reportedly fires all of the organization's staff.
The nonprofit has been plagued by internal turmoil for the last year following the termination of founder James O'Keefe.
The official Project Veritas X account, that's what was funny, X Twitter account, shared the message,
SOS, Hannah Giles just fired us all.
Such a weird goings on.
An unnamed source confirmed Timcast the Project Veritas staff has been let go and further
claimed the chief financial officer for the nonprofit has resigned.
The source told Timcast donations dried up.
There was a massive drop in financial support and the writing was on the wall for months.
Jack Posobiec, the senior editor at Human Events, also said a source had confirmed the validity of the message. All of production, all of field ops, all of comms, all of legal,
the source told Posobiec, according to an online post, only remaining are office admin, HR person,
a couple development people, and IT. The organization, which has been known for breaking a number of significant stories,
had been plagued by administrative turmoil this year.
This is absolutely amazing to me and predictable.
We knew it was only a matter of time.
The Postmillennial also has additional information,
breaking exclusive chaos at Project Veritas.
Almost all employees have been laid off.
And they go on to add a little bit more here.
She came to all
hands in april with her quiz a quote with her fat sidekick ben wetmore and all they did for three
days was talk ish about james and relitigate all the terrible things he did to her and them 10 to
12 years ago i knew right then her entire agenda was revenge on air talent christian hartstock heart sock james lelino were
both laid off after giles told staff that a restructuring would be underway kaylin erickson
jamie phillips alissa dayan were also fired the terminations were done via zoom call with hr
with a few of those in the new york office giles did not make an appearance she's a lying sack of
ish a source told the post-millennial no one respected her anyway. Here's what I have to say about all this. If you still worked at Project Veritas,
I don't know. I've I got very little sympathy for you. They came after founder and leader James
O'Keefe. They tried to strip him of everything he built. And there were people who were party
to the knives in the back of james o'keefe who signed
a letter calling him out so i just have to say i'm not calling out anyone individually because i don't
know who but to all the people who stabbed james in the back and have now lost their jobs
schadenfreude like what this is what you deserve did you think that this organization could survive
without the man who built it and was doing the hard work and making the sacrifices to keep it up and running
these people firmly believed they were the ones doing it all and surprise surprise the moment
you betray your leader all the money's gone they bring in a shark who then nukes you okay
yeah it's been a wild year do you guys remember that coup at project veritas
the thing that stands out to me the most is that letter that was signed by like 16 employees
they had all these uh you know they said that james is a tyrant he does all these terrible
things they have all these examples one was that this donor felt like you know he hadn't been
friendly to her or something and then afterwards that donor was like that's not what happened
that's not it at all like he was like short with some woman and then they were like what are you talking about james was
perfectly it was totally fine he stole a woman's sandwich so this this group of people that said
we can do it without him thought they could also hold on to the donors who were paying for james
o'keefe right that that organ i mean it was called project veritas but it was james o'keefe yeah i
mean so the second he's gone what are you donating to i mean
he was it was his investigative journalism and tactics that people were were watching he was
the face of it the second that he was gone what i just don't understand what they thought would
happen especially so i mean today i know you said this that you know according to the reporting they
were fired they weren't fine the bottom line is they ran out of money i mean i don't know the
finances but like let's stop kidding around.
Once he left, it dried up.
And at some point they said, we can't pay you anymore.
Call it what you will.
Well, and why didn't they lead off with firing their development team?
The development people are supposed to raise money.
I think they have money.
But I think money's not coming in.
Because if you look at their 990s, they had millions of dollars.
And so what's probably happened is they probably looked at the finances and said,
we got no donors.
We got a couple million in the bank.
At this rate, we will be totally, you know, we'll be defunct in insolvent in six months.
So like, okay, fire everybody now and Veritas will function to some degree for a few years.
But you know, the funny thing is I do believe and obviously the O'Keefe Media Group that he started, these people bought into a mission.
They wanted to see things exposed without the Project Veritas being any kind of an alternative, which – now this is actually going to be a boon for him I think because they're going to go, okay, let's just go back to basics. I mean, maybe he stole someone's sandwich, but the bottom line is, but the point is,
here's what we've invested in to begin with. Let's go back to the OG.
Yeah, I think the employees actually that are getting fired might actually
go work for O'Keefe Media Group, and it's like, is he going to have a back?
They might want to go work for O'Keefe Media Group. He's going to do his own little investigative
journalism and be like, I have a video of you, a tweet from you and an email from you.
And you're not working for me.
It reminds me of Alexander the Great when he was on campaign.
His men just got to the point where they were fed up.
We're like, we're leaving.
And he was like, fine, leave.
So they all he gave a speech and he was like, get out, go, go home.
Tell him you left me here.
And then a couple of days went by and the men like realized what they'd done.
And they went back to Alexander and begged to be let back.
Because they were starving and lost.
And maybe, maybe he gave this rousing speech
and they all realized like what they would be,
really be leaving.
And here's what I think.
The speech is pretty incredible.
And so he took them back.
He took them back.
He's like, you're all my brothers.
This reminds me, this has a touch of the,
an element of leftism entitlement arrogance james o'keefe
starts this organization he sacrifices he gets raids raided by the feds he gets sued over and
over again he's the the tip of the spear he's the he's the front face uh the the front man of this
organization taking all the heat and working non-. He brings people onto a system. At some point,
they get in their minds that he's the bad guy and they should take over and that they'd be
fine without him. And then it all comes crumbling down. You know what I find fascinating, by the
way, so many times organizations like the one that James founded, you hear the founder at some point starts to grift they steal they get too big for
themselves that was never the case under him as big as they grew as much money as they brought in
there's not I mean to your point like this is a nitpicky thing that they went after him on and I
don't know all the claims but it was never about stealing or living the high life or buying expensive
cars and a couple things were okay
yeah they claimed it like he paid his own wedding or something like that but but okay and again i'm
not but so many of these organizations are get to that point where they it topples on itself
he stayed true to the mission right and i think that that that sort of is an interesting thing
for me to watch because then he goes and does o'keefe media group and it's like all right
and he seems to have at least getting back to getting enough people to help fund
that but i i just find it funny that these guys thought that they could do it without him yeah
if you have a heart issue don't rip your heart out i mean that's the you gotta heal the thing
you know have james sit down earlier point if they're trying to keep this thing going for a
year or two you know you fired your entire content team like the people who are going to do the investigative journalism which is
theoretically what people were donating to support in the first place now you have what an hr person
and more people to fundraise like there's nothing there you have lost sight of your mission they
they they're wearing veritas like a skin suit and everyone can see right through it that's just if
james had been like i'm gonna leave if it was his decision and he was like, everyone continue to support this creation that I've been a part of.
I think it would be fine.
I think people would have stayed on.
Yeah, but they stabbed him in the back and a bunch of people who worked there signed a letter stabbing him in the back.
Despite the fact the letter said some of us haven't been witness to any of this, nor have we ever beened by james o'keefe but we're signing the letter anyway and it's like oh i was waiting for this moment for for these
people to get their their comeuppance i wonder how many of them do you think james will hire any of
them some of them i bet some of them are probably just you know like i had i don't have no idea i
bet some of them are still in contra the james with james saying i'm so sorry this happened
people who didn't sign that letter accusing him of wrongdoing. I got to tell you, if I worked for Veritas and I was, uh, you know, out with James, whatever reason,
and I bought myself the most delicious chicken bacon ranch sandwich. And James walked up and
says, I haven't eaten all day. I need your sandwich, dude. I'd be like, bro, no problem.
I'd be like, you're, you're, you're busting your ass. You're working really hard. I will go get
another sandwich. The idea that they signed this letter of abuse because he he allegedly took a sandwich i'm just like you people are so
petty that's the that you know what man i'm glad that he was able to get out and i am glad that he
was able to start i believe i believe omg is a for-profit yeah yeah of an entity now good yeah
he owns now now he has see the problem with a non nonprofit, first of all, James deserves as much money
as he decides for the work that he does.
And with a nonprofit, you're limited, right?
When you're filling out paperwork,
you have to assign how much people are going to get paid.
Are there going to be any employees
who make more than six figures?
And I think the 990s showed that James
was getting around 300K per year.
Leading a, what were they?
Like an eight-figure organization
some of the most influential with some of the most vital and important groundbreaking reporting
the amy rohrbach story on epstein and here's james o'keefe getting you know uh like a mid-tier
like vp salary level which is hey it's good i'm not coming out right three thousand dollars a
year but the level of influence and work that he did, he should decide if he wants more.
But more importantly, if James wants to buy himself a Lamborghini, I hope he does.
He deserves it.
But as a for profit organization, James can, without any question, without any board members,
not any legal paperwork, choose to hire whoever he wants, fund whatever he wants, launch documentaries,
do all of these things,
and it's much, much easier and much, much more effective for him to do this.
He doesn't have to worry about now.
So they accuse him of taking too many black cars,
vehicles to and from.
And I'm like, yeah, people want to kill this guy.
The least you can do is give him an Uber, you know,
between locations, and they're like, no, it's wasting money.
He's not like an executive at St. Jude's, right?
Like he needs more protection,
but,
but get back to the nut of this.
The donors are giving it to,
because of him.
Yeah.
Right.
This is not like they installed this guy and said,
wow,
we brought you into this organization.
He built it.
He's getting there.
The donors are buying into him and his work.
So if he wants to take a car here or there to your point,
Tim,
about safety and just
efficiency comfort yeah but this is not again this isn't it's not like they're like by the way he was
taking a g5 you know from yeah from dc to his place in the hamptons this is i want i want a
black car that i know that the driver is going to be safe that i'm going to this is not excess i
just this is the benefit of a private organization uh having
a private entity james will not be scrutinized for saying hey we have so uh he came out here a
couple times and in order to do so they had to do a private charter i think a private charter for
between here and new york round trip is like 10 to 13 000 james is at at this level i've explained
to a lot of people there's no way someone
with the workload of james o'keefe is going to drive the six or seven hours down here to come
on the show or drive back or wait in the airport and dedicate a whole day or two to travel he's
like hey i've got a bunch of meetings today i can go on tim pool show we got to get a private
charter we step in we get the plane we're there there in an hour. Boom, we're gone.
We're back in New York the next day.
Certain levels of work and responsibility require things like this.
Now, don't get me wrong.
Like when the global elites are like, oh, there's climate change is a big problem, but they're going to fly in private jets.
Yeah, we can criticize that.
I'm not going to criticize someone for saying the only way I can do this is if I if I get
a private charter.
Yeah, I don't think the logistics of his career are that unreasonable, especially if he has that much to do. I mean,
he has a ton of risk because he isn't just like a nonprofit leader. He is a public face. People
are very angry with the work that he does. There is more of a target on his back. And I will say,
I think this is sort of the problem with non-profits I think a lot of people start
non-profits because they see you know people can donate
to me and it's a tax write off and then I can get
support I don't know how I would make money off of this
but I do want to dedicate my life it's very mission
driven but non-profits are
ultimately ruled by a board and that can
be detrimental as we saw
and they betrayed him well let's
I can only
say that it looks like OMG has been
doing a lot of work. They've got information, I guess James has posted coming out of Fulton
County. They've been doing investigations. And I think he is now untethered. And I think he's
going to be in better control and not have to worry about being betrayed in the future. So
good luck to him. And, you know, you hate to see it. Veritas was an institution. It was it was a
powerful force that was doing really good work. And then it crumbled. So it happens. But let's jump to more modern political stuff.
The latest development in the Trump indictment out of Georgia. This is from CBS 17.
Trump lawyers seek April 2026 trial date in federal election subversion case.
That's basically the story. The suggested date is a dramatic counter to the DOJ to the Justice Department's recommendation last week of January 2nd.
Oh, I'm sorry. This is the federal judge. I had this totally wrong. This is not the Georgia case. This is the federal election.
Wait, no, no. This is the federal election says why. Why do they say a federal judge? He's asking a federal judge to intervene.
Lawyers for Donald Trump asked a federal judge Thursday night to set an April 2026 trial date in the case in Washington, charging the former president with conspiring to.
OK, right. So this is this is the Jack Smith case.
So this is the D.C. case, not the Georgia case.
Man, it's it's hard to keep track of all these indictments.
I thought this was Georgia.
There's four. But this I mean, look, the reality is that they've got to figure out something here because you can't have the leading candidate for the Republican nomination who's leading Joe Biden having to deal with.
I mean, they can't have it both ways.
I think the one thing that that is lost in this whole discussion in and I watched one of the media organizations today try to excuse this.
But the reality is every one of those four cases happened.
The issue that he's being charged with
happened years ago why did all four now happen it's weird time but i'm sitting here watching
this full court county uh da go after him for an event that happened two and a half years ago
why did it take and oh by the way it just so happens to sequence right after Jack Smith's case, which
just happened to sequence after Jack Smith's other case, which happened to sequence right
after Alvin Bragg.
All of these events happened two and a half years ago.
If what Trump did was so bad, what new has occurred?
Nothing.
In Georgia, the court published the indictments against Trump before the grand jury convened.
But that was a mistake.
Sure.
First, it was fictitious.
Then they said we hit the wrong button. Right then why did you document up donald trump came out um i haven't seen the video but i saw someone tweeting about it apparently donald trump said
that everyone else should drop out of the gop primary race that uh they should all we should
all be united and uh let me see if actually let me let me let me pull up the uh i can i can actually
try and pull this video up so someone asked i want to make sure i get the person who asked right i'll
play the video for you guys i didn't pull it up before but i'll pull it up now and uh let's see
where we at did i not did it not go through maybe it didn't go through on my twitter so
trump apparently said that everyone should drop out and i think i think that's that's correct i believe that all of the republicans should drop
out of the race trump should be the only one and the question is but what happens when they remove
trump from the uh from the ballots in various states i think trump should put that decision
dilemma to the democrats to say there is no one else
running for the GOP.
It is Biden or Trump or Newsom or Trump, whatever it's going to be.
And they would have to remove Republican from the ballots outright if they want to remove
Trump right now.
If there's other contenders, there's a safety net.
If it's Ron DeSantis or Vivek or anybody else, if they remove Trump from the ballot, they'll put on some other Republican. So that way, the people who are there perceive this this this option. I think that's a that's a decision dilemma. Either they a lot they keep they're stopped from removing Trump or they're forced to take such an extreme and egregious action. They will shock people to their cores. Well, I mean, I think the analysis might be right,
but the reality is each of these guys who are running
think somehow that Trump's going to fall
and they're going to be the next person.
That's what's keeping them in the race.
I mean, they all know.
I don't want to get ahead of the debate discussion
if we get there tonight,
but I get asked every day,
should Trump go to the debate?
And I go, he's at 54% in the real clear average of polls.
Most of these folks need a name tag for you to know who they are right so why should he get on the stage and the same thing is
true they're all hoping that what you're saying tim happens that he goes down and they become
the number two or the number three the reality is that's all they're hoping for they know they
can't win i mean no one in their right mind anyone who just has second grade math says he's at 54.
I'm trying to get to one.
I get it.
And that's even if you start breaking it down by the states, Iowa, New Hampshire, it's not.
So they know their only hope is that he falls down and gets removed or something or gets.
Vivek has said no way to that.
And Vivek is publicly resisting that saying, I don't want to win that way.
I want to win on the merits and that we can't handle this. We can't handle this way. So the tweet was from Jesse Kelly,
but I want to play first the clip from Donald Trump. Here's what Trump had to say.
Great polls just out, leading by 40, 50 and even 60 points. Who expected that? I did.
Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, all very strong, but also leading Biden very big. The sanctimonious is crashing.
Perhaps the party should come together. People should drop out of the race. We unify and we beat
Biden and the Democrats. They should be easier to beat because our country has never been in
worse condition than it is right now. Thank you. So this tweet from Jesse Kelly
says, someone explained to me like I'm 10 years old, how does anyone dropping out help Trump stay
out of prison? Please be specific. If everyone drops out, what do we do when the communists in
Michigan and Pennsylvania keep him off the general election ballot? My response was it creates a
decision dilemma for the Dems. They either cancel the GOP entirely or they keep Trump on. Taking
his name off would be apocalyptic
with others in the race they get a safety net for nuking trump if this goes back to what you said a
moment ago and this is what we were talking about i don't here's the deal i think that you're right
it's this apoplectic decision i don't think they care i think that they will do what and this gets
back to the nut of what i've been saying is that they don't care.
They will do whatever it takes to maintain power.
Then force them into a into a risky position.
And what happens when we this is my question.
What happens when we lose?
Meaning that they say, great, we're going to remove them.
We're going to jail them.
And then we're going to make sure that Biden wins because it was because you need to avoid the frogs boiling in the pot scenario. If Donald Trump is taken off the ballot and there are three people standing behind him,
then the ballot in Michigan still has Republican and Democrat on it.
But if the ballot has a single party and no one else, that is such a massive leap.
The problem we're experiencing right now, we mentioned this in the beginning of the show,
every day people say, oh, that can't happen. That would go too far. Let's go way back in time. And I bring this up all the time. When I said in 2018 that the street conflicts we are seeing between
Proud Boys and Antifa were a track towards civil war, and people laughed saying a bunch of goons
fighting in the street is not a civil war. And I said, yes, but the sentiments held by these people
will keep spreading, eventually find their ways into government. And they said that will never happen. The security state will not allow it. Where are
we today? We're well past that point. Not only did you have the 2020 Summer of Love riots where they
firebombed, they tried firebombing the White House. The president was forced into a bunker.
You then get January 6th. You then get Donald Trump being indicted several times every single time someone has suggested that something like this could happen.
People have just across the board, across Twitter saying, no, that'll never happen.
But that goes to the point. That's my that's what I'm saying. You're absolutely right.
So why is this time? Let me explain. So what's happening is every action they take is them cranking up the temperature by one degree. You don't notice you're boiling now that they've indicted Trump's lawyers like Jenna Ellis was indicted simply for
being his lawyer counts one and two being party to a criminal organization and violation of public
oath of office or whatever, quite literally just being his lawyer. There are people on the
indictment list where it's like they reached out to a state elector and said bada bada. They reached out to a lawyer and said this. No, she's just a lawyer. When when people
said Trump would be indicted, Mike Cernovich brings this up. He's like, they're going to
indict Trump. All of these people on Twitter, these prominent conservatives like, no, they won't. It
won't happen. Then when it does, oh, Trump gets indicted for what tax paperwork, some campaign
contribution. That's not even a big deal.
The next day, it's classified documents.
Okay, well, that's, you know, not that big a deal.
Then it's trying to subvert the election.
Now they're going after his lawyers.
What's happening is they're incrementing it to such a degree that when they,
now that they're at the point where they've indicted lawyers for constitutionally protected
legal work, people are acting like it's no big deal.
Yes. So what you have to do is put the Democrats in a situation where they either take 10 steps
forward or two steps back and 10 steps forward is like cranking the temperature up past 400 degrees
when all of a sudden the frogs shriek and jump out of the pot. Imagine what would happen in Michigan
if you're run of the mill, bumbling, dotted Republican
voter who doesn't pay attention goes and looks at the ballot and there's not a single Republican
option or the president just says Joe Biden.
That person goes, what?
This is where I'll disagree with you, because I think that what happens is the media and
the establishment in Hollywood and everything else they own says, well, unfortunately, uh, he committed these crimes
and he wasn't allowed to do it in the Republican party bubble. I mean, they do what they do. I get
your point. I've turned it up 10 notches. It doesn't change anything, anything. Make them
excise the Republican party from the election, force them to outright say you have one choice or no choice. It's the
same thing. Make them say it. Okay. Make regular people have to. Let's play it out for a second.
They say it. The election happens and they go, see, we did have an election. Unfortunately,
the Republicans had nominated a guy that was in jail and we had to remove him from the ballot.
And so Joe Biden has been dutifully elected president of the United States for a second
time. And oh, by the way, this is where Kam kamal is coming in but i don't know exactly what happens
when they uh when when does react this is what i'm trying to get at when does when does
the frogs jump out of the pot they go oh my god there's only one party and this is what they're
doing just what's the recourse how do we undo what they did? This is the problem. Your example about the street, everything else is spot on.
And everybody goes, holy crap.
But we're not, even for all the stuff that they've done and where we are in society,
no one's turning back and saying, we've got to undo it now.
Gosh, look at how hot it got in the pot.
And I think they turn it up a bunch of notches.
We freak out.
But then we go, what's the recourse?
We go, oh, it's too late.
Sorry, next election.
So the reason, I believe the reason democrats are taking actions as extreme is because they know they've lost the culture yes but my point is but but that means what they're doing
is irrelevant laws are only enforced on the on the confidence of the people and they're losing
confidence of people if they take one party off the ballot outright, confidence evaporates overnight.
But see, I think that what your example was right.
They don't go, hey, in all 50 states, there's no Trump, right?
It's Michigan, Pennsylvania.
And so it just prevents him from getting to 270.
We did have an election.
So what?
So here's my point.
So what is they declare him.
They go through the same exercise where the Congress certifies it.
And they said, sorry, guys, next time you should nominate somebody.
What happened? You don't think it'll happen?
That will not that no way we as bad as 2020 was in terms of how many how many members of Congress challenged the results and demanded action.
And and whatever you think of January 6, we had something on January 6.
2024 will not go down like that, especially if they remove Trump from the ballot in one state and just one state. My point is this.
The only reason they get away with anything they do is because people believe they can.
So the example I like to give is that women aren't legally allowed to skydive in Florida on Sundays.
Not a single cop is going to arrest a woman for skydiving in Florida on Sunday. Why?
Because the culture will not allow it.
We have tons of laws in the books that never get enforced.
It's illegal to do these drag performances with children in a bunch of these states.
Ain't no cops stopping them.
Why?
Because of the culture.
Because the cops are like, I don't want to get involved.
The sentiment of the people matters more than what the letter of the law says.
See, just to bring this back, though, for a second.
Here's what I think.
I get where you're going with this but i think that that there's also a reality of where i
in my opinion think things are headed now which is that either in dc or georgia they get a
conviction and what they do is they don't take them off the ballot right that's this is my take
on this but they basically create an environment to say republicans you guys do you really want to elect a guy that's going to be in jail and so they've
the the elections are such that arizona pennsylvania michigan wisconsin are all within
one two three four percent you don't need to get 500 000 people against the president you need 10
20 40 michigan was won in 2015 by Trump by 10,703
votes. That's it. They get that they just need a little movement of the needle and they win.
They win Michigan. They win. So what I think they're really doing is ensuring that they get
a conviction in Washington, D.C. and or in Fulton County, Georgia, and that they can spread the
message that you guys are going to elect a guy who can't get himself out of jail. And that to me is actually a worse scenario because they can,
they will let Republicans infight on that, whether or not, and they don't have to remove
them from the ballot. I don't, I, I don't see that being as successful. That, that is a Pyrrhic
victory. If Democrats have to win using these methods, they're eroding the American people's confidence in the system to function.
And that will destroy them.
That's my point.
Correct.
And that's how they lose.
Yes.
They have to maintain legitimacy.
Yeah.
But see, here's my point.
You talked about the legitimacy.
Look where we are now.
You pointed out where we are in the street.
And they're doing it because of their desperation.
Right.
Examples.
Bud Light, 30% drop off in their stock, $400 million lost.
Target, 27% drop off in their stock.
For the first time in six years, they're dropping in sales.
Meanwhile, Sound of Freedom surpasses Indiana Jones.
Disney now facing major boycotts.
Richmond, north of Richmond, to debut at number one.
Yeah.
Because people are starting to push back culturally and they're losing. boycotts a rich man north of Richmond to debut at number one yeah because people
are starting to push you back culturally and they're losing so the only thing
they have left is raw power it won't work so let's ask Republicans over the
past 10 years if political power did anything for him with no cultural power
so on the sound of freedom and on on target just to keep it one-on-one here
you're absolutely right sound of freedom hundred what probably closing on to 200 million right now.
And people went out, saw the movie,
spread the word, we won.
Target, same thing.
People were disgusted by what they saw,
said, I'm not shopping in there.
But here's the question.
Let's look at Target.
Who lost their job?
My guess is a bunch of cashiers.
But that's my point,
is that this is what scares me is that in
any normal world a decade ago you would have fired that ceo and said what a moron you're out
yeah who got fired at bud light yeah marketing team the marketing no no no just to be clear
they didn't get fired they're on leave no no they were fired okay yeah all right so the leave was a
lie reportedly fine but here's my point five Five people lost, 26 what billion dollars lost.
I mean, and five people lose their job.
You've got everyone else in the leadership.
Well, no, Bud Light was forced to sell off their craft brew brands to a Canadian company.
But my point is.
And they're shutting down several of their plants and tons of.
Okay, so let's take this.
If Ian starts blowing up Timcast, you're going to get, you know,
20 minutes later, he's out.
Where's the accountability?
I mean, yes, they fired the marketing team.
That's cowardice.
They fired the people who did the thing.
Why don't you think their board demands action then?
But that's, this is where I get,
I mean, this is my worry.
That doesn't matter.
It does.
Because this is the point that you're...
I don't care what Bud Light does.
Bud Light could rehire the marketing VPs
and they could go and juggle bottles
in the middle of Times Square for all I care.
The fact is, what we've learned from this
is that the American people are turning things around.
Right.
That's all that matters.
But what I'm worried about...
I don't care what Bud Light does.
What I'm trying to say is that you're right.
I agree with you on principle.
The problem I have is that Target,
you look at the CEOs and the top folks there,
somebody should have paid the consequence for this, right?
Who cares?
Because what I'm trying to do is make an analogy to the Democratic Party here and say these
guys keep going over and over and over again, right?
No one's demanding that Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi or Hakeem Jeffries or whatever go,
hey guys, you're guiding us down a path of of losing
no it is legitimately that they stay on it is good that they're not doing that if you've got a guy
who's driving your if if the democrats are driving their bus off a cliff then then we should be
saying like well it's unfortunate that's their leadership again agree with you i i'm like hey
let's keep them on board i love it but this is what I'm trying to get at. When the point that I thought you were making is that at some point they're going to blow themselves out. Right. Because they've gone too far. My question is, when is that? Because we keep letting that they've gone too far. They already went too far. It's done. Now they only have the exercise of raw power. They're desperate for Trump supporters to act out and do something.
And as long as we just keep listening to good songs like Rich Men North of Richmond and stop buying Bud Light and shopping at Target, eventually they lose their power.
They lose their confidence.
They're becoming desperate.
Already we're seeing corporations drop ESG in name because they know it's bad for their it's bad for their bottom line what what's
happening now culturally is victory they're they're saying that disney is gonna they would
have didn't disney lose nearly two billion or something like that off their their past several
releases they're failing the flash one of the biggest box office bombs in history these
institutions are in free fall at the same time. Angel Studios with Sound of Freedom, not just that, the Chosen is huge.
Yeah.
Success across the board.
You add on to the fact of what, you know, something I've been saying for quite a bit.
The left is more likely to abort their children and sterilize their children.
No matter what you think about indoctrination of kids, the math is absolute.
There is a rate of attrition among leftists that does not exist among the right, which
means 20 years from now, it's going to be two to one conservative to liberal voters,
even with indoctrination.
It's and not to mention conservatives are pushing back on the indoctrination.
So what I see with Democrats, the indictment of Donald Trump, they're behind the scenes
crying, looking at their their their their assets in Hollywood failing.
Their PR campaigns don't work.
Their woke garbage movies are being mocked and ridiculed.
The celebrities, many of them are turning and being like, I don't want to be involved in this.
Dana Carvey puts out a video mocking vaccines and people are starting to say, oh, they're based.
Russell Brand, Hollywood celebrity.
Now he's they're calling him a he's right wing.
Now it's like the dude's a leftist.
They're losing. Right. The only thing they have left is the cudgel.
It's not going to work. So that's why I say Donald Trump should be the nominee.
The other nominees, I think, should drop out. I agree with Trump on this. I'm not like 100
percent saying everyone get out. I'm saying like there's a good point to be made that if everyone
drops out and then Democrats are forced to use the nuclear option of removing
Trump from the ballot, that means there will be no Republican. Now, maybe they'll put a fake
Republican there or the right Republican or something, but that would be so shocking.
It would strike at the core of whatever legitimacy they claim to have right now.
I just don't think they care. I think they do whatever. I don't care. I don't care if they
care. Oh, I don't know. But what I'm saying is i i think that you're right but it's they're like they think in in two and four
year increments that are great we'll get past this election then we'll deal with it it's somebody
else's problem if we completely and then what'll happen is eight years from now they'll be saying
we can't muster up 30 of the vote what happened it's like we weren't paying attention to what was
going on around us what'll happen is you'll get Democrats start to wait eight years.
I'm not saying it won't.
I'm not saying nothing will happen between them.
I'm saying that's when they don't exist anymore.
We're already at the point where you have RFK polling at 20 percent among Democrats.
And RFK is actually trying to bring on conservatives into his advisory board, into his campaign, because he wants cross country appeal that we're already seeing that
among Democrats. They're fed up with this. So I think whatever the Chuck Schumer's, the Pelosi's,
these people, they have they were on a ship, had it straightened to rough seas, and they sat back
eating their fifteen dollar ice cream. And now they're caught in the storm and they can't get
out. Can I just give you the quick political? I can't help myself sometimes because I think
to your point about where this thing ends up.
Right now, Trump is leading.
The only way that Trump is not the nominee is if somebody actually can beat him in an early state, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada, right?
Right now, exactly. And that's – so this gets to your point is in 2015, there were 29 days between the Iowa caucuses and Super Tuesday, right?
This time, there will be 50 days.
Why does that matter?
Campaigns need the equivalent of gas.
What's gas?
Money, volunteers.
No one is going to stick with a candidate that can't defeat the nominee, that can't
actually accumulate delegates.
And so this gets back to what Hannah and you guys, we were all talking about before, understanding
how this is going to play out.
Tim's going to get his wish because going into Super Tuesday in March, these guys can't sustain themselves. No one's going to
give someone at 1% or 2% money or wake up and answer the phones and put up signs. And so Trump,
in my estimation, will be the nominee by the time he hits Super Tuesday in early March.
So you're going to get your scenario politically speaking,
because there's no one right now that can actually take them on.
The only caveat that I've always put is that Iowa is an organizing state,
meaning it takes about 50,000 people to win the caucuses.
DeSantis' team claim that they've just over 10,000 people that have signed
caucus commitment cards.
If DeSantis can't do that in Iowa, it's over.
What do you think about Ramaswamy?
I'm impressed with, I think as think, as a political novice,
as somebody who's been doing this 30 years,
I look at how he's conducting himself, the campaign that he's built,
and it's impressive.
Do I think he can win? No.
He's sort of like that quarterback that you look at the beginning of the season
and say, is he going to start or win a Super Bowl? No.
But that's the guy I want to keep my eye on.
And he's the kind of guy that I could see Trump picking as a VP. He's the kind of guy that I could see running
in 2028. I am impressed with the organization that he's putting on. I'm impressed with the message
and the following. The thing that's really interesting for all these whiners that won't
make the debate stage, Vivek has raised of the total that he's raised 2.7 million, according to
his last thing from donors. He's at 6%. He's ahead of the former vice president of the total that he's raised 2.7 million according to his last thing from donors
he's at six percent he's ahead of the former vice president united states who is a governor
and a three multi-term leadership congressman this just shows you that if you have a good message and
run a good campaign you can succeed he is proof to all the whiners that won't make the stage
that it's you buddy yeah that's my vibe i think trump is so popular that it's you, buddy. Yeah, that's my vibe. I think Trump is so popular
that it's challenging to get the name recognition
at this point against an incumbent,
essentially an incumbent president,
even though he didn't serve this last year.
I want to talk about where this Georgia indictment goes
because I think one of the most important things to consider,
we've been mentioning it several times.
Every time someone suggests
the Democrats may go one step
further, we're told, no, that would be too far. They won't do it. I think there is a strong
possibility that if Donald Trump surrenders in Georgia, they will remand him to custody
and sever his communications. I've heard people say, oh, that's crazy. They wouldn't do it. I'm
going to remand him. Why not? Think about what
they're doing right now and going after someone's lawyers. If you were to tell me that Donald Trump
would be indicted, let's say a year and a half ago, Trump's going to be indicted. I'd be like,
well, I wouldn't put it past him. If you then came to me and said, yes, they're also going
to indict his lawyers, I'd be like, what? Now that's a step too far. If you said, okay, they're
not going to indict his lawyers, but when they indict him, they are going to put him in jail and revoke bail.
I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.
They're arresting him.
So why would we assume that it is more reasonable to expect his lawyers and former administration
staff to be indicted under RICO charges?
Can I tell you why this would-
Then assume it would be less, like, why would we assume the probability lies not with him being remanded to custody and the probability lies with lawyers being indicted?
What worries me more than anything, and this gets at your point, is that this Fulton County DA doesn't have anyone to answer to, right?
So they, and by the way, Governor Kemp down there in Georgia is not doing Trump any favors.
So the point is, if she goes down the route that you're talking about, Tim, that's where people have to understand that I think she doesn't care.
She's a Democrat that has no – there's nothing in her that cares what Donald Trump or anyone else thinks.
She wants to be a hero to the left, and I think that gives merit to exactly what you're saying is that she's like, I can be a hero.
I'm the guy that's going to put Donald Trump behind bars.
I'm going to get the mugshot, and it'll be be me i will be the hero to the progressive left doing this and i don't have
to worry about answering anybody i don't answer to doj i don't answer so i think that to to what
you're getting at this is going to be the key moment when he goes to georgia and he will
what happens then because they're going to do things to him in the last three that haven't
happened and everyone's going to go, oh, my gosh.
I hope he gets remanded to custody.
And I think people need to realize Trump said, I need one more indictment to win the presidency.
I wonder if Trump is surrendering because he gets this, that every time the Democrats
take these extreme actions, they are stripping themselves of of the confidence of the American
people, that people are starting to view what they're doing as illegitimate. You've got even some percentage of Democrats who feel
that the charges are overtly political or going, you know, way too far. So Trump may be thinking.
In this in this day and age, we're in the victimhood, you know, era or whatever. The
idea is if you want to win a fight, you don't throw a punch. You wait to get punched and then scream, help, help. I'm being oppressed. So Donald Trump says,
hey, I'm obeying the law, goes, you know, and goes through the arraignment, the arrest process,
the mugshot, and then uses this to say they are evil and corrupt and their only path to victory
is through violating our social norms. Never in this country's history has a political as a president targeted as political opponent.
Trump's going to weaponize this for fundraising and for sentiment and to strip the Democrats,
the Democratic voter of confidence.
I look, I think that the the point that I'm taking away from this is that what happens
in those 20 minutes after he shows up is going to be really
interesting i mean they're they're almost giddy they that sheriff was like you know we were he's
definitely going to go to mugshot like what do you need a mugshot for right the most famous man in
the world does not need a mugshot and also they can fundraise for the rest of their political
career but this is the point exactly you're spot on this is all about trying to be the most
progressive person out there they're all vying the sheriff's trying to outdo the DA. The DA is trying to outdo this. That's what worries me more than anything else is that these guys – when Alvin Bragg did his first indictment, as a non-lawyer, I was talking to some folks that are very well-ed in this all stuff and i said here's what i don't get you know this venue how do you mix this and they said sean i want you to understand something ever since trump
became president it's like the rules have changed what normally would have made sense you would
said okay this isn't the right venue that this is they don't have standing this that the other thing
they go katie bar the door baby judges don't care anymore it's like oh it's trump or you're
a trump associate or we're going off okay like things that would have never passed the smell test four or five years ago.
And that's what worries me.
That's why I say civil war.
The only the only thing we're so Stephen Marsh says we're in this period of civil strife.
Civil strife is a period before civil war when there is a certain number of political deaths that occur every year.
And we've exceeded that number over the past few years. So by the actual historical metric, the argument is the
experts say we are entering a civil war and not we don't know when it will start or what will kick
it off. My view is that's probably true and correct. And it's a fair assessment. But there
is also the consideration of fourth and fifth generational warfare, which is psychological operations and manipulation. If the Democrats are doing exactly as you
described, they are saying the rule of law doesn't matter. The constitution doesn't matter.
We don't, we don't care about what your witness says. I mean, look in, in Georgia,
they released the indictment on Trump before the grand jury even voted there, but they clearly
have fabricated this for political purposes.
But this is the thing
that I find fascinating, right?
They post it
and then they lie about it, right?
They literally were like,
oh, that was a, you know,
fictitious document.
Then it comes out again
and then they get caught lying again
about what it was.
This is what blows my mind.
No one cared.
How, what do you,
like the idea that- i don't think that's
true no no no we did okay but the idea that no major network said they just got caught in a lie
this is what that and i know that let me let me try this france didn't care right
the people the people of france didn't care at all that this information came out right that's
how you need to start viewing the Democrats.
They do not care about
the Constitution, about your voting process.
They wrote an article in Time
Magazine called The Shadow Campaign to Fortify
the Election, and they
basically broke down how the election
and the choice of the people are meaningless
to their whims.
When you say no one cared, no, you're talking about
the people of France.
If you're England and you're in conflict with france it's surprising they'd be like can you believe the people of france don't care that the king
just passed this decree well of course they don't care no but don't live in your world can i just
and i'm being serious here that i get it like i've lived this for 30 years of double standards
hypocrisy okay but this gets to, I think,
the nut of what you're saying,
where it's like, at some point,
I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
They literally went through the motions.
And I always think there's going to be
at least some degree of fake outrage.
Like, oh my gosh, this happened.
No one from the major networks
even acknowledged it happened.
If it wasn't for like you guys and some folks in the future.
But I just, and again, maybe everyone, like the idea that we continue to go, you've got to be kidding me because the goalposts keep getting moving farther and farther away from what I expected reality.
I used to get the, everyone always talks about how, you know, the, the evening news used to be,
no way they didn't.
It never was fair.
They just faked it better.
Right.
I mean,
that is,
and everyone played the game now,
but the reality that no one even tries to fake it anymore,
like the faux outrage of like,
oh,
this happened because you're at war.
Well,
but I just,
and again,
I call me naive,
but I'm literally going,
I've been watching this for 30
years and saying at least people pretend that that there's some modicum of real like outrage
the idea that a court published this no one said anything but people do care and we we experience
it and my experience over the past few years with extended family and friends. A few years ago, the people, a lot of extended
family, they were passive liberal, passive anti-Trump. Today, they are passive anti-Democrat.
What I mean by passive is they don't pay attention for the most part. They're not going on Facebook
and posting memes about it. They're not on Twitter. A few years ago, they were saying things
like, oh, Trump is so awful. I can't stand him. Today, What do I hear from him? Oh, I'm so sick of the Democrats.
I'm so sick of this.
Their crime is running rampant.
And you ask them, like, you know what for Trump?
Well, I don't know about that.
But they're no longer in the position where they're like Trump is evil and must be stopped.
So here's what I think may occur.
They may still get their default anti-Trump votes.
But I think a lot of regular people, you don't have COVID lockdowns anymore and you don't
have a scapegoat. Trump was the president. They can say all your problems are Trump's fault.
Yep. Now Biden's president. So you're going to be you're going to have a very, very, very difficult
time to go to the exact same people and say, remember everything we promised you and didn't
deliver on? Vote for it again. They're going to be like, I don't even know anymore. I'm out.
Or when you look at what's going on with the raids, where these gangs are raiding Nordstrom
and the Nike store, people look, there's a lady in Portland.
She got cracked in the face with a with an aluminum water bottle.
And then she's like, I'm voting Republican now.
And I'm like, well, I'm surprised they're getting smashed in the face.
Perhaps, you know, for many people, it was the Chaz.
But I think things are getting so bad, both in in people's personal lives and in the political space, it's going to cost them
dearly. I think Trump knows this. And I think that's why Trump said, I need one more indictment
to win. And I think the reason why he's playing along and just doing everything is because he's
playing the martyr route. Let them be the villains in the evil empire and I'll be the underdog
fighting the machine. I hope so. Well, all that really matters is this.
Will the Republican Party,
will Donald Trump build the biggest ballot harvesting
and chasing machine ever seen in this country?
Because if they don't,
then sentiment means nothing.
And that's the key.
This is why I was telling you,
I'm launching this new show
because people have to understand how to win.
We sit back and everybody goes,
I don't like ballot harvesting.
I want to vote on election day.
I think there's a reason we have election day.
We've lost the battle, right?
Everyone now is mailing in their ballot.
And this is what the Dems outdid us in COVID.
It was, they cheated.
They changed the laws.
They didn't, I mean,
they didn't abide by any of the local regulations.
They threw out any lawsuit that challenged their-
Correct.
And so the reality is that either you get up and now say,
okay, ballot harvesting is legal.
We're going to start getting all of these people registered the way.
We've got to understand the rules and play by them.
And excuse me, not play,
but understand that this is how they're playing by them.
And if we don't do it, then we're going to continue to lose.
I keep looking back at Georgia.
Do you realize if we had won that race in Georgia, we wouldn't have any of the issues in terms of the Biden
nominees that we had, the judges, the nominees, the oversight would start happening in the Senate.
I think that's Trump's fault.
Huh? Okay. But here's the point. Enough people in Georgia didn't get out there and do it. And
if we don't realize the consequences of these elections, we're going to get stuck with these
policies and these people that are ruining the country. We saw a lot of sentiment from people in Georgia and that Senate
runoff that said, what's the point of voting anyway? It's all fraud. Yes. Well, congratulations.
Your fraud narrative suppressed your own vote. Correct. I'm still, I mean, I'm not going to
claim that there is fraud, but I cannot stand the idea of voting on an electric voting machine.
The proprietary code tallies my vote i
put that in quotes behind the scenes so it's like i throw a rock into the ocean and there someone
else is gonna be like oh yeah your rock landed over there trust me republicans in congress should
pass a bill banning the use of proprietary voting you absolutely need the code to be free because i
have evidence of a developer who's testifying in front of a judiciary committee that he built uh technology to flip the vote 5149
in 2000 um it's it's sickening that famous famous footage yeah yeah let me but more importantly
there's a there was a there was a story about a guy who got a speeding ticket and he went to court
and he said he wanted the source code of the radar gun because for all we know it's a random number
generator and you have to
prove prove beyond a reasonable doubt that that thing actually showed my speed and the judge was
like you're right yeah man how do we know that thing does what people claim it to do clinton
eugene curtis testified that he for congressman tom feeney in 2000 built the prototype software
package that would secretly rig an election to sway the result 5149 in 2000 and then i think
george bush won that election 5149 we don't-49. We don't know. Very strange. Yeah, we don't know.
And that's the problem is we don't know.
I need to verify.
No, I'm saying we don't know what voting machines do.
Nobody does.
All we know is we have various machines where you can tap a screen and it claims you voted,
but I have no idea what's going on.
Like, why would I make that assumption?
The software code for any voting machine should be publicly available to everybody.
More importantly, I think due to the complexity complexity of it they should be outlawed outright
also foreign congress should do it right now like i know seriously why doesn't congress do it though
i mean what is the benefit of keeping them around there's no benefit but then well the i mean just
so you understand i mean the answer is because they're going to claim that that there's no
federal i mean that these are all state-run i I mean, that's their – I'm not explaining.
No, you're right.
Right.
States have a right.
States have a right to – they each run their own elections, and therefore we're not – we don't have any – which is – again, this is sort of like the drinking age.
There is no federal law that says it's 21, but they just tell everyone transportation dollars flow to states that have a 21.
So they tie the money.
So you can do it, but they just tell everyone transportation dollars flow to states that have a 21 so they tie the money so you can do it but they just don't want to and the reality is but look can i just get back to the bottom line is i and i don't i'm not there's a there's a discussion to be had on
what you and ian are bringing up but the point is is that too many people are saying well until
that's done i'm not voting or and that's what happened in georgia well guess what then we lose
so you can do both at the same time.
You can basically say, all right, I'll get out there.
I'll play by the current rules and we need to fix it.
But if we keep losing elections, they're just going to keep steamrolling.
I thought for sure Hillary was going to win 2016 because I'd given up.
I was totally blackmailed.
Like, well, I can't prove that these voting machines are legit.
They were so convinced that Trump didn't have any.
I think part of it was they didn't have their guard up.
They were like, there's no way this is going to happen.
And they weren't going to. In 2020, they were like, all right all right that's why we're gonna keep changing these rules wisconsin nevada georgia it was like
okay let pennsylvania's constitution doesn't allow early voting right they just did it anyway they
just did it and then the court ruled it was fine yeah we got but we got some efforts here let's
pull up this story we got this from the post Post Millennial. Georgia state senator moves to impeach Trump prosecutor Fannie Willis. Moore said we must strip all funding and if appropriate, impeach Fannie Willis. So he drafted this letter, I believe. Oh, they don't they don't have it. He said we the undersigned being the duly elected members of the Georgia House of House of Representatives and Georgia Senate and comprising three fifths of each respective house pursuant to Article four, Section two, paragraph seven B.
Hereby certify you in writing with a copy to the secretary of state that, in our opinion, an emergency exists in the affairs of the state requiring a special session to be convened under that section for all purposes, including for all purposes to include without limitation the review in response to the actions of Fannie Willis. So this is Georgia Senator Colton Moore, who apparently went on to say that they must
defund or impeach if appropriate. Now, I'm not entirely convinced they'll do anything. I don't
trust Georgia Republicans at all, but I'm curious where this goes. I'm not so sure this ends with
Trump simply surrendering. We've already got Mark Meadows filing to have this move to federal court.
A bunch of analysts believe that will happen very very quickly.
You've got John Eastman severing his case.
From the rest of the group.
Saying his defense is different from theirs.
And then you've got.
The attempts to remove the prosecutor.
I think Donald Trump should immediately.
His lawyer should be filing a claim.
This is interesting to me.
Because why isn't this happening?
Should be the first thing we heard.
His lawyers file with the federal government on the challenging the constitutionality of trying
to have him arrested right that that should be the first thing that happens for a state
in a state court for a federal election but apparently trump is agreeing to surrender he's
apparently negotiating there's a bigger point i grew up in rhode island where organized crime
rico was used largely for organized crime in the mafia right the idea that you are now and
you made this point about jenna ellis a while ago there are people who if you read the indictment
and what they're being charged with the different counts and indictment it's like tweeted did this
representatives they are creating a criminal enterprise under a statute that was made to go
after organized crime because mob bosses would escape because they're like technically i didn't
do that or whatever but this is the i i've been involved in two really close elections 1994 uh was involved
in a race that lost by 21 votes on election night and then 2000 we won by 386 votes the first thing
you do is you're out there claiming that you won you're making sure that you exhaust every recourse
in terms of petitioning the government talking to to – like they – nothing that they did in this case is less than expressing yourself under the laws that exist in our constitution to participate in a democracy.
They are creating a criminal enterprise by – this is – this goes back to what we're talking about.
This is how far they're going
yeah it feels like a sort of slip on george's part right they see them as criminals so they're
going to make them into criminals you even saw chris christie who is literally all he talks about
his entire campaign is trump no trump no more trump his entire he came out and said this is
a mistake how they're handling this. Because I think again,
they've,
they've jumped the shark.
They keep going one step further.
And in her case,
it was because I want to show everyone in the world that I can be the champion that slays the dragon.
Yeah.
I want to show themselves to be insane.
They're unhinged.
Yeah.
And they've got unhinged supporters on social.
You know,
I think one big component of the culture war has been that fringe weirdos on social media drive the conversation among democrats and when they
started banning conservatives something interesting happened you've got i want you to imagine there's
two kids one's filthy and covered in chocolate ice cream all over his face and it was like a
disaster and the other kid's very clean looking and you know his hair is parted perfectly and
he's wearing a nice little suit and you think man that kid's very clean looking and, you know, his hair is parted perfectly and he's wearing a nice little suit. And you think, man, that kid's, you know, well, well educated, well, well taken care of and well developed.
And the other kid is something's wrong with him.
You assume the dirty kid is got something wrong with him.
The reality is the mother just does not let the other kid have chocolate ice cream.
And if he can't get access to it, he can't get all messy.
The other kid, she lets him have it. So what we're seeing with the censorship on Twitter, they kept allowing
the left to say the craziest things imaginable, but the right would be banned instantly.
What happened is you got a perception of the right as Ben Shapiro saying, well, listen,
like, you know, these are the arguments we're going to have. They're completely on the taxes.
And it's very basic, very normal conservatism. On the left, you have people arguing that you can be a chimp if you want.
You just need to get the appropriate surgery.
And so now you end up with post liberals and and disaffected liberals, people who are like,
I can't associate with this.
Democratic politicians on social media are adhering to the voices of the most fringe
and insane personalities.
And people on the right were listening to a bunch of regular,
moderately conservative individuals.
This made Democrat politicians sound like crackpots
when they start advocating for child sex changes
and sex shows for children.
Now you get regular people being like,
yo, that's crazy.
That's too far for me.
Because they were allowed to say these things
and social media wouldn't ban it.
Yeah.
Well, think about it.
You brought up Sound of Freedom before. i started before i actually saw the movie
i started going what's all this q anon stuff right i finally watched the entire movie i'm like i'd
seen the clips i'd watch the trailer i talked to a bunch of the guys and then i kept saying like i
just don't get the q anon thing there's nothing no i and i can't i mean literally if you watch
but this is what they do they demonized it it. And what happened is more people said, I got to watch it.
It became unbelievably successful.
But they don't know where to stop.
QAnon, there's nothing like it.
But that used to be the thing they would say to keep people away from certain topics.
Right, used to be.
They're saying that about Oliver Anthony.
They're saying he's a QAnon guy.
Wait, they're still using it.
I'm just saying it's not as effective as it used to be.
Before, when you would say QAnon, people would be like, oh, that's crazy internet stuff.
And now you say QAnon, people are like, oh, that means mainstream people in the media
don't like it.
And therefore, maybe I should check it out on my own.
There is a reawakening of curiosity.
And it didn't work.
People went and saw that movie.
In droves.
Yeah.
And they're still going.
$175 million, basically.
Yeah.
Beating Indiana Jones and a bunch of other films for like the top box office for the year absolutely incredible and the budget
was really small so it's actually performing way better than we can even realize some of these
movies like oh it made 500 million dollars and it cost 600 yeah we don't come on sound of freedom
was 15 million and it's at 175 million and again bud light and all these other things i i think we win culturally and then what happens is oliver anthony is a really great example john
rich tweeted this out that all these labels are tripping over themselves trying to get him on
board or sign with him but if he he said if if anthony was signed to these labels they wouldn't
let that song right you'd never hear it yeah no why don't you write a song about drinking beer
with your dog and your truck because your girl left you or something
not about minors on an island or whatever now that's that's a bit too much so it's a grassroots
effort but the culture matters because money talks and bs walks disney and all these organizations
they're losing money they're going to have to fall in line or their money's going to dry up
yeah that was similar.
Is that the money like Alex Jones got slant?
I don't know if slander is the right word,
but he got,
you know,
demeaned in the media,
got talked badly about.
Then he got deleted from Twitter.
But then when they went after his pocketbook,
that's when it really stifled his ability to create.
Now he's working for Steven Crowder.
I think he's working with him.
He has a special with mug club,
but Alex Jones and info wars are all still
doing their thing but they just shredded his organization financially and caused him so much
stress for years and they see what they're doing with donald trump through the legal system like
you can talk crap about someone only so long before it turns against you but if you go after
finance i think that is a way to permanently destroy someone's ability to communicate
doesn't alex jones oh like the gdp
of france or something billions of dollars it doesn't make any sense it makes it i mean i would
think if you were the the people suing him you know you're never gonna see that money so if you
really felt like you needed it to fund whatever whoever is acting on your behalf is actually
trying to make a political point and
presumably they are also in on it i think that's the whole point of our justice system right now
especially because so much of it plays out uh in the court of public opinion it's not about actual
justice or figuring out what's right or wrong it's about getting the mug mug shots about getting the
perp walk it's about getting the headlines being able to say well i was the one who filed charges i was the one who did this i served on that jury and we did
this thing and therefore i have the moral superiority and that's how people feel like
they have influence and culture they just want a wikipedia page man i'm thinking like it's all
they want like how alex sacrificed uh his financial you know stability or had it it was sacrificed on
the altar in front of him and he watched and watched it happen is like the founding fathers of the United States. They, they risked everything,
man. They risked their fortunes as well. Like at some point you speak out against it,
they might shut your bank account off, but like, you got to take that risk. If you're,
if you want to speak what you believe there's a risk involved in there, probably the risk will
probably intensify in the coming five years, probably 2027 we're going to see a sea change
that's when graphing goes peak i think that's when money might not be that become way way less
important i think the value of money actually is going to be continue to diminish we'll see what
happens with that i mean michael burry we talked about the other day made a big bet against the
s&p 500 and nasdaq and so everyone's kind of like looking around like does he know something
exactly he doesn't mean he does he got he got the mortgage-backed securities things right in 2008.
Doesn't mean he's a prophet. It means he got one big one right. I don't know. I don't know if I
want to hope he's right this time or not. I mean, a shock to the system could be good. It could be
bad. I have no idea. I think ultimately the scary thing is it's going to negatively impact
working class people who are already having a hard enough time buying groceries.
Yeah, I'd just like to know when that's going to happen.
So I can plan accordingly.
Well, SpaceX sold all their Bitcoin today or something like that.
Did they really?
And then the price of Bitcoin collapsed.
And then they announced Ethereum ETF or whatever futures.
And then it jumped back up.
So it's like, yeah, everyone would have loved to have known that SpaceX was about to sell off their Bitcoin so they could get out before the price went down.
Everything dropped six percent.
Let's let's go to let's go to the good news.
Ladies and gentlemen from Rolling Stone.
Oh, they're seething over this.
Oliver Anthony's populist polarizing rich men north of Richmond on track to debut at number one the virginia upstarts song about rich
politicians and poor people abusing welfare is already at the top the itunes spotify and apple
music charts he's got what are they saying 98 000 digital song sales 7.8 million streams i don't
know uh where that'll put him on the hot 100 it is very it is very uh difficult is very difficult to top that chart.
But they say Morgan Wallen's last night,
the reigning number one
from this week's Billboard chart, and one of
the biggest hits of the year, has 13 million
streams, but just over 3,000
digital sales, with 41
million airplay impressions.
It's a major year for the genre, blah, blah,
blah. Alright, so let's break this down.
I could be wrong in my math, but I believe that one sale is 1,500 streams.
So do the math and you'll calculate how many streams that Oliver Anthony actually has.
But that 41 million airplay impressions, that's hard to beat.
That's basically the radio station saying, well, play your music. And of course, they're not going to get Oliver Anthony on there. That's hard to beat. That's basically the radio station saying,
well, play your music.
And of course, they're not going to get Oliver Anthony on there.
It's going to be very difficult.
Now, with the weight of the song,
they might be forced to.
Oh, yeah.
But you know why he's a,
I have a real simple reason
why this song is doing so well
and why they're so mad about it.
What did the corporate music industry
give us in terms of music?
Wet ass pussy.
Yeah, okay.
That's the stuff that they tell you to listen to.
Okay, fine. Adele is up
there somewhere and Taylor Swift.
And then you have that teeny bopper stuff
from Harry Styles or whatever.
It's not only just WAP
or whatever, but this is the antithesis
of WAP.
So this is something that regular people who are sick
of the disgusting sodom and gomorrah music and entertainment industry can now be like hey there's
some music hey i understand this hey these words mean something to me and that's pushing back so
this you combine it with all the other cultural endeavors we've been winning on and just feels
good you know what i thought was fascinating you you put the headline up from rolling stone for the first i don't know
maybe 24 48 72 hours he was a phenomena everybody was excited and then once the folks in the right
john rich and others sort of talked about him and made him a cause the the rolling stones of the
world suddenly branded him it was like oh god, we were initially positive on this guy.
The second that people on the right embraced him,
what's the headline?
Polarizing.
He was polarizing in QAnon.
But for the first 24 hours,
he was a rock star and a savant.
But it was so funny to watch how quickly they shifted
once folks on the right embraced the message
and his success.
They're like, if you guys like him, we exactly there's nothing i mean i for one love to see ginger representation i think
redheads don't have enough uh place in the media uh yeah i feel like we should credit him as a
representing a very um uh minority genetic group yes thank you sir uh but i think part of it too
is at least for me again this is the sort of the alternative
country folk genre that I personally already like.
But I think he's talented, right?
So much of what's sort of astroturf right now in pop music is just like the same one
verse with one bridge.
It's all kind of electronically done.
And maybe those singers and artists and songwriters have some talent on some level but because it's supposed to appeal to the masses they try to make
it as simple and as you know earwormy as possible whereas this is actually catchy he's actually got
a good voice he's actually a talented musician and that's more effective instead of sort of
trying to make it this garbage song giving something something with giving the people
something with feeling is really having an impact so i have a correction it's not 1500 it's 150 for every sale of richmond north
of richmond that counts as 150 streams so he's currently sitting at uh with with these numbers
we're looking at about uh what are we 22.5 million streams he's not gonna beat this these
other radio uh radio guys now he would you know beat this up the song only has 13 million streams
and 3 000 sales that ain't nothing but they've got the radio behind them so i can only tell you
this man if you really like the song y'all need need to go on iTunes and buy it. And tell all your friends to buy it.
Because if you're going to listen to it,
and look, we've talked about it with our music and everything,
but I'm going to say this right now.
I know you all love this song.
I love this song.
It's a great song.
I was playing it on loop earlier.
I was like, damn, this song's fantastic.
Buy it.
Spend that dollar.
Buy it.
Go on iTunes.
Buy the song.
Tell all your friends to buy the song.
Anyone you know who listens to it,
you should say,
hey man,
let's make this guy the superstar.
Let's make him bigger
than Cardi B,
bigger than Taylor Swift.
All you got to do is spend a dollar.
That one dollar counts as 150 streams.
Let's get this song to debut platinum.
I think he needs 75 to 150.
I think he needs 150 million.
He needs just about eight times where he's currently at in terms of streams and purchases.
So right now they're all seething.
They're trying to argue that he's a plant.
Yes.
Look at this intelligence.
Intelligence.
Or look at this.
Oliver Anthony and the incoherence of right wing populism.
They're losing their mind over a factory worker termed farmer who wrote a country acoustic song.
The dude didn't do anything to anybody.
He wrote a song about how he feels, and they are losing their minds.
But this gets back to the Bud Light, the target, right?
In the last 24 months, give or take, I feel like conservatives have gotten their sea legs.
We go out there and go, guess what?
We're not going to take it.
We're not going to shop or we're not going to buy you.
And then conversely, sound of freedom, Oliver Anthony, we go out there and go, all right,
we support them.
This is what I think we are finally starting to get it together.
You actually don't want like something, then stop going into the store.
Stop buying the product.
Don't just say, oh, the heck with it. And for the things that we do like, and Tim, you're absolutely right. You
go out, you spend that buck. At some point, they can't ignore it. And that's what happened with
Sound of Freedom. And frankly, before that, The Chosen. And I know they've got a bunch more in
the works at Angel Studios, but that's what's happening with this guy as well. It's a dollar
to make a difference. And that's what's going on is I just,
I get excited when I see success stories like this, because it just shows that we can do it.
And I think that's frankly, what's going on in media too. I tell people all the time,
go look at what you guys are doing at Timcast. Look at what Patrick, but David's doing.
All of these folks that the media doesn't want to pretend exist are unbelievably successful.
And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. It like you know what i'm tired the corporate stuff it's it's not where the future
is anymore and i think if we band together and support each other when events like this come
along this is where i think we start to win again i love uh oliver anthony's performance i think that
that song is pretty simple.
It's like a verse, chorus, verse, chorus,
and it just ends after that.
So there's no bridge.
There's no three parts that you would consider to make a hit,
but the way he performs it is so real visceral.
Less is more.
It changes you.
It's raw.
It's the kind of thing where he could tell you a bedtime story,
and it would be invigorating because of the way he tells it.
Post Malone's like that.
This guy's like Post Malone. He's got that posty energy i love it he needs 1 million sales to be
platinum you need 150 million streams for platinum i hope i hope this song gets there yeah it's like
the biggest song in the world where's he at right now what's the 20 some odd million and 98 000
sales so he's at 10 of the sales needed look debuting at platinum is a big ask
songs songs go platinum after like a few years then they're like hey you finally reach that
you cross that mark where you know you've you've got enough plays of your song but it would be
cool if he could do it because he seems like someone who has strong values i mean he posted
earlier today that he's uh, you know, merch for this
with a local t-shirt company
from wherever he's from in Virginia.
Farmville.
I think that's cool.
Farmville.
Farmville.
He's from Farmville?
Yes.
And now you understand
why people are like plant.
You know what I mean?
We live in a simulation.
But I like that he is saying like,
I want to support other small businesses.
And I think that is cool to see.
It would be very easy for him to be like, people want my stuff.
Let me figure out the fastest way to get to them or a big corporation that can help me out.
And I wouldn't, I would understand why you would do it.
I just like that he's opting to work locally and small.
That's a value that I would want to see in my own life.
Check this out.
They say, Fox News, Oliver Anthony says he's turned down $8 million
offer since going viral.
Nothing special about me.
Yeah, dude. Stay independent, brother.
I will Roger up. If you want to give me
$8 million,
they'll own you.
They'll cancel your show. It's not worth it.
Just so you know, if you saw me dance,
my singing's worse than that.
Dude, I listened to his song like four or five times,
this Rich Man of North Richmond,
and it was like the fifth time I listened to it,
something struck me.
I just started shaking.
I got goosebumps all through my body for almost the entire song.
But sometimes that's what happens.
It takes a few times you listen to something
or you eat something a few times and it's a required taste.
It's real music.
So much music.
Because we've been putting out music. Let explain you guys we talk to these industry dudes
and they say you got to get on the dsps the digital streaming playlists once you're there
they'll automatically play your song for people if it's in a certain genre and then you'll start
getting play and i'm like i get it if you're in the machine if you are approved by the people who
work for pandora for spotify or whatever if're well known, they'll auto load your new song.
It will be guaranteed to get a certain number of hits and then you're going to chart.
Yeah.
All the stuff we had to do when we released songs and we charted was asking people to like, hey, be active, listen to our music.
So we're fighting through this machine that props up everybody else.
Oliver Anthony has hit the dream.
He has 17 million hits on YouTube,
98,000 sales,
the equivalent of about 14,700,000.
So he's looking at 30 plus million streams
all organically with no industry support
because he wrote a good song that resonates with people
yeah nailed it yeah it's awesome and i like i mean we've got 19 million on youtube now
19 million it's 3 million in one day radio wv where i saw this video originally does stuff
with other artists like he's sort of i hope he does well individually i don't want to take
attention away from him but like he is representational of a whole group of artists who probably don't get the attention from mainstream outlets because
they are not exactly what they're looking for.
And I think it's cool to have someone who's sort of opening the door and saying, you know,
if you like, it becomes that thing.
If you like this music, you can probably figure out other artists that you can support that
are similar to him.
And I think, Tim, you mentioned that he didn't have industry support, but I think he has
an industry support.
It's just a new kind of industry it's a decentralized creator industry
yeah like jack kosobik people that fire out his music to a hundred thousand views i think i think
the video was actually posted to some kind of music channel yeah it is radio w right it's small
i mean there's another one um i think it's called gems on VHS. Like if you like this style of music,
you can kind of find it,
but I think you're not entirely wrong.
It's not like the mega big studio.
No, it's very different.
It's very different.
You might be well-known in your genre.
You might grow,
but I don't know of anyone else
who sort of launched into this stardom
from these smaller groups.
Not that they aren't doing great work.
They didn't understand too.
So he's got this Facebook post where he said,
people in the music industry give me blank stares when i brush off eight million
dollar offers they're not offering you eight million dollars no that's usually just an advance
too and then you get a million dollars and you have to pay back the eight million dollars after
you've made your record sales and like they think he could do it in this because in this case he
could probably do that but they're saying those people this was one song we could take all your
music yeah we put it on an album. We put advertising behind it.
We're going to give you $8 million.
And then what happens is they give you $8 million to be paid back.
And then you got to pay back all the marketing, pay back all the placement, pay back the managers.
The manager gets cut.
And then after all of your albums sell, they're like, here's your 15% cut of the $10 million we made off the album.
You're going to get 1 million but that's
going to go back towards the debt you have with us so you actually owe us 7 million dollars have
a nice day exactly that's how it goes and you can't say anything more about these uh elite
stuff like here's what you're going to write now yeah yep exactly it's funny how they're calling
him a plant but it's like it's just not it's just so obviously not the case especially if you're
turning that down it's such desperation his name His name is Christopher Anthony Lunsford.
His grandfather is Oliver Anthony.
And Oliver Anthony music is dedicated not only to him,
but 1930s Appalachia where he was born and raised.
Oh, that's awesome.
Appalachia's the best.
Chris Anthony.
He says, I'll gladly go by Oliver because everyone knows me as such.
Amazing.
There's really cool music coming out of Appalachia.
I feel like there's a whole renaissance
here in terms of music.
I mean, it's just because it's not what Hollywood is
expecting, but there are a lot
of really interesting artists that are based in Appalachia.
It's clean air. It's easier to breathe here. It's easier to sing.
I was in LA for way too long.
There's too much breakdust in the air.
And it's different values. It's not the same thing.
You're not hearing another song about a party
of people trying to get famous.
Not that those aren't real experiences.
The most horrifying song of all time.
Do you know when you look at movies that are solid content, good values, family values,
Christian values, name one that hasn't done well.
They all do well.
The problem, this is the funny thing is this song is another example of this thing the it's almost like
hollywood and the music industry are you are fighting it when these songs come out surfer
the one on bethany hamilton that they all tend to do well passion of the christ they do well
and yet hollywood goes well instead let's make another one that has to do with you know uh a
bunch of smut and things like that.
And yet here's a song like this.
No marketing, no agent, no nothing.
Bust to the top of the charts.
You talk about your experience.
People want good content, good music.
They almost are like, well, how do we then jam them back with some more crap?
Yeah, it's it is what I find fascinating.
It's just it's the antithesis
of capitalism.
But if you're always
eating sugar,
you're always going to
need a dentist, right?
Because you have cavities.
Like they do this
because the music
isn't fulfilling to your soul
and so therefore
you're trying to
try new things
and go watch more TV
and more movies.
You're looking for
that connection.
I think this solidifies
what I've been saying
for probably about 15 years.
We are the media.
When they say the media,
that's us.
He's got four songs in the iTunes top 10.
Yeah, go buy them all.
He's got Rich Men North of Richmond is number one.
Ain't got a dollar number three.
Seven, I've got to get sober.
And eight, I want to go home.
Can we get away with playing any of that right now?
I don't have anything.
I've only heard his number one.
I haven't heard his other ones.
They get more support.
And I saw something on the chat a couple days ago.
They get more support.
He gets more support.
If you go to his actual channel and you go and watch his video, you go and buy the actual thing.
If you want to support him, the best thing you can do is look it up yourself and go and buy it.
Because that just shows the algorithm.
More people came there naturally.
So just so I'm clear, are you saying don't go to iTunes?
No, go to iTunes and buy it.
Oh, okay.
Spend that dollar.
Spend that $1. Because that $1 is equal to listening to the song 150 times exactly and if all 40 000
people who are watching right now buy that song for one dollar it's going to help him blast off
but more importantly if all 40 000 people who are watching tell all their friends and family
who like the song to buy it hey look he's got he's got 19 million views on
youtube let's say that everyone listened to the song twice let's just say he's got nine million
let's just cut it down let's let's let's say that three million unique listeners imagine if they
each bought that song for one dollar not only would this dude be a millionaire because he'd
take home like two point something million then taxes come in he'd take home about a million
something but he would be i think that would put him double platinum
yeah easily double platinum debut for this song and that's if people just go and search a song
go look up here i know it seems like it seems better to like give them the platform for on
our channel but that's the best way to help i just i want i want this guy to be a millionaire
and to be successful and i want i want young people to look at him and his
message and be like that's your path of success i don't want them to look at wet ass pussy and be
like that's how you're going to be famous a famous musician i want them to look at oliver anthony and
be like that's your path being musician being real being genuine and like honor integrity real
issues and i just want the massive multinational entertainment industrial
industrial complex to fail sound of freedom like please just buy the sound of freedom today
does a uh a thing where you can pay it forward where you buy the tickets and other people get
them for free so i think a lot of people that watch youtube can't do this i can't do it you
cannot do with music that's what we're gonna ask is there a system where we can pay it forward for
artists there are i put a thousand bucks into this guy so a thousand people could have it there they they don't allow that but we
should start doing it even if it doesn't count towards the views it would mean that people
because then taylor swift will go in and be like put a hundred million dollars into give the song
for free and then i'm number one for 10 weeks but if you if it didn't count towards the views if it
just let people hear it i mean they can hear it on youtube anyway yeah it's all that's why i'm
saying everybody who's already listened to the song and likes it you gotta buy it yeah definitely man i wish all 40 000 people listening right now just
went and bought it but i know you know what hold on i'd like to know is there a way that we can see
again this is not my world here can we see where it is right now i'd love to see you can't see it
real time see what or what is i would love to know real time because he knows point oh he knows yeah so he's got access to the back end where he can probably see streams coming in
and not necessarily sales there are some apis that i can i can you can they estimate yeah they
estimate not exact yeah if if his um if he's got anybody with access so i think it's called
illuminate then they can see in real, but it might take a day to update
or something like that.
Do you have his number?
Chris's number?
No.
Chris,
hit me up.
I'm sure.
He's got John Rich helping him out.
Oh,
good.
John,
get us in touch,
man.
They're good.
He lives close by,
dude.
I know.
He's like two and a half hours away.
We're going to rock so hard
with Vivek on keys.
You know what?
Hold on.
Let's just go.
Let's go.
Right now?
Let's get in the car right now
and just drive to Farmville.
I love it. Let's do it. We'll start yelling, Chris, where and just drive to Farmville. I love it. Let's do it.
We'll start yelling, Chris, where are you at?
I've been to Farmville.
Is it cool?
It's a beautiful place.
What is it?
The reason I just...
That was the site of the vice presidential debate in 2015.
Oh.
Yeah, it's not like you were like,
hey, Farmville.
You were just driving through.
No, it's a beautiful place in Virginia, though. Yeah, not like you were like, hey, you're just driving through.
No, it's a beautiful, beautiful place in Virginia, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember the video game.
That's about it.
Is that what it was? It based on the city.
No.
Did he put Farmville on the map?
Yeah.
Farmville.
He's got in country.
He's got a bunch.
He's got what he got.
One, two, three, four.
He's got five songs in the top country charts
and four songs in the iTunes top.
I like Chris Anthony.
I think that's a better name than Oliver Anthony.
It's too late, brother.
You think so?
I'm going to keep calling him Chris
and let the people be damned.
No offense.
Be confused, I should say,
if you don't understand who I'm talking about.
But it's Chris Anthony.
Like, don't put him through that.
Don't change his name.
But he wanted to.
Because he listened to his music on it, right? I mean maybe he did it to himself owed to his grandfather
I mean shout out to Oliver
old Ollie Anthony
big granddad
making magic
I hope he also had
a ginger beard
like just a great
genetic trait
this is gonna be
Ian's trivia question
Chris Anthony
what is the real name
of Oliver Anthony
yeah
Chris Anthony
is that
it sounds like that
that wizard
that magician
what's his name
Chris Angel Chris Angel.
Mind freak.
Yeah, mind freak.
He's still doing his thing in Vegas, I think.
Oh, no way.
Dude, talk about music changing the freaking world.
Exactly.
Yeah, totally.
So cool.
Winning the cultural battles is how you win everything.
Because, again, there's going to be some 15-year-old kid.
He's going to hear about this.
The number one song. 19 million views in a week. And he's going to be some 15 year old kid he's going to hear about this the
number one song 19 million views in a week and he's going to say i want that i want people i want
to make the work that everyone loves and respects and he's going to be looking at a guy who's
talking about the working class being screwed over and when you listen to musicians when you're
nine and 12 years old and you listen to a musician over and over and over and over and you're writing
it in you become like that later in life if you want to become a musician that's part of you like eddie vetter was that for me i would 12 years old
in my bedroom over and over pearl jam non-stop and now that just comes out of me like that that
growl you know it's part of how i how i communicate and so this guy's doing it for oliver's doing that
for kids right now can i ask do you guys know uh and i was late to that not i saw the video
when it when everyone else kind of when
it but how what was the what was the the wick like the that lit him i don't know i woke up one more
i know all of a sudden i was talking about it i saw it on twitter when i think the soba yeah i
didn't have that much views at all and i was but i saw bongino and a bunch of these other guys
there's some connective tissue to a bunch of these guys some some guy who saw it first yeah and and
they were tweeting out that's the guy and he yeah and then once that takes like the algorithm takes it and it just
starts you know putting in for people that it thinks you'll probably like this i think for the
most i think this was a natural viral phenomenon of people on the right hearing the song and
posting it in replies and sharing it with you know jack posobic said you know would be a shame if
this song went viral and then yeah people start clicking or tweeting it jack said don't even remember the last time a new song hit me like this i mean i
hear you jack actually after i read jack's tweet is when i listened to it and i got the goosebumps
because i i i heard it through jack's ears this is wild i wonder if he was the first one to put
on the map august 11th but so so this it's all part of the bigger picture with the failures of
bud light the failures of target the success of failures of Target, the success of Sound of Freedom.
It is people saying, we're not going to buy your weird Sodom and Gomorrah garbage anymore.
And we're going to focus on things that actually matter to us.
That is the boycott.
And if that keeps up in a few years, we're not going to be complaining about Target anymore.
You know why?
Target's going to have a cardboard cutout of Oliver Anthony.
They're going to get rid of all of their weird child you know lgbt stuff because it doesn't make money
and it freaks people out and these big corporations are gonna what they're going to do is they're
going to start shoveling all that stuff into the into the back under the rug and be like no no we
were never about that we we like what you like come come give us your money yes what is popular
what is popular absolutely and you know what i just And you know what? Us too, of course. I still despise
the faceless corporation
but we want Target
to replace their pride section
with the, you know,
Appalachian music collection.
You want them to be
chasing your values.
Yep.
I think that would be
an incredible win.
It would be nice
to see this happen.
You don't turn it around
and make it so where like
the industry is actually
chasing what everyone likes
not the industry
telling everyone what they like
and then selling them what the industry tells them.
You should like this.
It's people saying, I actually like this,
and then forcing those companies to catch it.
Like, oh, okay, we'll sell you this then
because you like it, you know?
Yeah, well, you said pride, and I was like,
I mean, this guy's got American pride.
He's singing about the threads of the United States.
It's funny that Try That in a Small Town
is currently number six.
Oh, wow. They're so salty about all of this country music taking in fast car Luke Holmes got in trouble for singing it even though Tracy Chabon was like no
it's fine if he covers it yeah no a white man cannot sing this song and it's
still there fast car yeah who covered it Luke Holmes who's like a country singer
dude what a great song yeah Oh, Tracy Chapman's amazing.
Is this the top or is this country?
This is top.
All songs.
It's impressive.
So John Rich is working with Oliver right now?
Chris?
That's what I heard.
That's so good.
I texted John.
Yeah, he has been helping him out.
He offered to put him on a label or whatever, like help.
So, yeah. I got goosebumps again, man. John Rich, we went to his place. He offered to put him on a label or whatever, like help the public.
So, yeah.
I got goosebumps again, man.
John Rich, we went to his place.
He's got a magnificent headquarters.
It's like a multi-storied, giant compound.
The guitar pool.
On like the fifth, fourth floor.
No, he literally, his pool.
Is a guitar.
Oh, that's right. It's a guitar.
You can see it from the roof.
Yeah.
Did you go to the music stage, the sound stage on the fourth floor or whatever?
And it's like two stories. Yeah, it's amazing. We have photos over there. Did you go to the music stage, the sound stage on the fourth floor or whatever?
And it's got two stories.
Yeah, it's amazing.
We have photos over there.
We got to jam on his stage.
But the best part about it is that when he tells you the zoning story, and I can't remember all the particulars of it, but they were like, well, you can't do this with your house, right?
Because of where it lies.
Because we say so.
Because of Nashville proper. So he's like, well, then what I will do
is I will carve this.
I mean, like it's a master of like his,
I love talking to him about his stories
because if you ever know the story
about how John Rich got redneck Riviera,
have you ever heard that?
So I'll just, I'll give you the cliff note version.
So he goes to trademark it.
His lawyer comes back and says,
yeah, the patent and trademark office says
you can't trademark a geographic location. And so I'm sorry can't we can't uh we can't do it and john rich
goes oh okay where is it and they said what do you mean he goes well you said it's a geographic
location so where's the redneck riviera and they go uh he goes just tell me and they go it's uh
it's on the panhandle of florida he goes oh because i'm also seeing that it's in a place in delaware off the coast of you know such and such in texas and he
goes so there's like 62 places that claim to be the redneck riviera and he's like so which
geographic place am i trademarking and after a fight back and forth with with all of these lawyers
in the patent and trademark office finally they were like you win dude so he owns the patent
to redneck riviera because the trademark because the trademark to it because initially the government
the lawyers like i now unfortunately and he's like no i'm not going to take no for an answer
and he fought and fought and fought and now he's got redneck riviera liquor and and uh
he's barbecue sauce low-key genius that is brilliant he's like so humble
when i met him to have on i loved when yeah i met him and i like i just looked over and i was like
oh just a guy sitting there i didn't even know if he was gonna be our guest i didn't know who he was
and then i started talking to him i'm like okay this guy's legit and then i got to know more and
then i realized like his business acumen and like but he's so humble yeah i wouldn't know like
talking to him that he's this like genius businessman oh it is it is funny being in his
like what was it like his third floor or whatever which is a music house it's a music venue
and bar and then i'm like oh what are all these and he's like oh those are all my my chart topping
songs and there's like this row going across the wall i'm like holy he's got the original lyrics
to all of these songs that he wrote that smash the cowboy yes yeah and other other artists too
that he's followed throughout the years he's got got their original lyrics that they scrawled on his napkin.
Like a napkin.
Yeah.
You're right.
The beauty is he is an unbelievably brilliant businessman.
What a good guy, too.
What a nice guy.
I love him.
Before we go to Super Chats, it was an honor to be invited to John's house to hang out
with him.
He's a good dude.
Glad to have him on the show.
Really excited for the stuff that he's working on.
Really excited for Oliver Anthony.
Let's read Super Chats.
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all right let's go blave kaiser says there will be no coffee purchases until we get Seamus'
sweet potato pie swirl
and vociferon
Herald of the Winter blend.
We are working right now
on the Seamus blend, actually.
Yes.
Yeah, we've got a couple.
We have re-rise with Roberto Jr.
because as much as we love
and miss Roberto Jr.,
we are not without humor.
So we have a special
limited edition, limited edition limited edition
halloween blend that we're going to be putting together we're only going to do 500 bags of it
and we're hoping that we can number the bags i'm not sure that we can we're reaching out
to the company who makes the bags because they have to be hand labeled and then uh if we can
it'll be cool you'll get like bag one of 500 could we do 666 bags or is that too
we could we might not be able to because of the way they they do bag printing but we can try
that'd be nice and it's hot it's for halloween so so seamus is seamus will come here and throw
holy water on all of you irish coffee no no that it too generic yeah it didn't really work we tried
we we did we got samples and we tried to put together some kind of it didn't really work so
we got to figure out something that works for Seamus.
You know, I think like a more earthy dark roast so that we equate it to potatoes.
I like the sweet potato blend.
Like, I mean, I don't know how we can try.
I don't know how we can try.
But maybe it would be...
Earthy Ireland blend.
You should just put Seamus' face on the bag.
We have little cartoon Seamuses, so...
And then there's a couple other we were
gonna do i think i think we're gonna we want to do an alex stein one that'd be great yeah
yep primetime grind oh yeah that'd be great that's so funny just like extra caffeine in that one
yeah yeah we could do we could yeah that's actually a really good idea primetime stein
caffeine 99 yeah i love that all right here we go waffle says it
says okay okay new plan trump goes to prison we elect vivek vivek makes trump vp vivek wins
and then vivek resigns and becomes trump vp checkmate i don't think vivek would resign
if he got elected president yeah they would be able to do something that would be fun but
he said uh raymond g san june says better plan trump raises an army of anti-fascists and
they take over the white house and call it what white house antifa territory trump reigns as king
haha i guess the funny thing is if antifa stormed the white house nothing would happen yeah the fbi
would be like that's fine totally okay they're peacefully uh occupying the white house we love
it when they do this yeah don't mind those fires all right we'll grab some more super jets now sir vucin says everybody needs to go out and
vote in 2024 even if you think it doesn't matter if you can't take a few hours to cast a ballot
then you might as well shut up sit down and wait for the downfall of the u.s true here's the other
thing y'all should do right now is go to iTunes and buy Rich Men North of Richmond. Buy it.
What do you think, Sean?
If you can't because the dollar really stresses you out, I get it, man.
You know, don't do that.
Some people really are trying to make every penny go as far as possible, especially with costs.
But if you have the dollar, buy that song, man.
And if you got the ears, give it a listen.
Make Oliver Anthony a millionaire and make him double platinum and make all of these industry celebrities beg to be a part of something wholesome and good.
Force the culture to abandon the creepy, woke garbage and embrace the wholesome and the good.
That super chatter mentioned voting, like making voting more challenging.
Is that what they were saying?
Well, what they're saying to make sure you go out.
What it made me think of is something Vivek Ramaswamy has been talking about which is uh that we could increase like the the bar to be able to vote that anyone that's 18 years
old would have to pass a civics test just like someone that wanted to get citizenship in order
to gain the right to vote at 18 what do you do you know i don't i i mean look this is i think at
some point uh i i get his point but this is a breakdown like we've got to start putting history
back in classrooms i mean there's having a test.
And again, who's going to write the test?
The same numb nuts that are running everything right now.
I don't trust.
I don't trust the government to put a test together.
If you ever looked at the citizenship test, it's 100 questions that they give you.
You have to get 10 right.
And you're going to I mean, so I get his point, but I'm not trusting a bunch of bureaucrats
to put a test together because I know who's not going to pass it.
Well, I like when we talked, he said, how about when you sign up for the Selective Service, you get your voter ID card.
So you can choose to sign up or not.
Men and women, both.
If you want to vote, you sign up.
That's it.
No guarantee you get drafted.
But in order to vote, you have to.
I think there is an element of public service that I don't mind.
I think you go that route and you'd be surprised
democrats lose all their voters yeah but yeah i agree and that massive resistance i don't i like
i said i'm i'm a fan of of having to serve the country um but i just can't i mean enough of
these guys control enough levers that they're never going to let anything go through yeah i
agree i'm not your guy friend says alex 99 was hysterical hysterical calling out far right
Tom Poole
as he once again
trolled the Plano Texas
Town Council
did you guys see that
no
oh wait
when he had blue hair
yeah yeah yeah
did he mention
me or the show
I don't think so
no
no
I just heard him screaming
until they shut his camera off
and then he was like
why'd you shut me down
why'd you shut me down
he's still recording it
it's awesome
Ray Jacobs says
Hannah Giles the ceo
veritas is actually an accomplished black belt at my jujitsu school in miami whether you like
her or not she is someone that you don't want to pick a fight with on the street she is very very
good you know i hear that but i don't know what that has to do with firing people and not
fundraising and you know like betraying staff or whatever so i'm you know yeah like you know mark zuckerberg's a blue belt yeah i don't know
how that's relevant to me i guess we're never gonna fight you know i'm not gonna be like mark
before we have this debate you know we're gonna do a sanctioned match yeah don't go and fight her
okay i think i think it is fair to say this because i am i am a humble person i think it
is fair to say that mark zuckerberg could beat up everybody in this room.
Yeah, probably.
Oh, yeah.
Alex Stein did say Tim Pool.
He was like, you guys are censoring far-right activists like Tim Pool.
I mean, he said something like that.
It was really funny.
Did he say Tim or Tom?
He said Tim.
I remember listening to it.
I remember he mentioned you.
A lot of people would want to be like big and tough and be like, I could take Zuckerberg.
I'm like, maybe because he's not that big of a guy.
Like, I guess Elon Musk said, with my height and weight advantage, I'm probably going to win even with training.
And that's a fair point.
But I think it's fair to say, like, I'm never going to pretend that I can take someone in a fight who's literally training in jujitsu or something like that.
I will just defer to, they probably beat me up. I'll try. I mean maybe i could do it at this point i think elon's trolling i don't
think he has any intention no zuckerberg's the one who pulled out yeah but that's because like
oh he wasn't following through not true elon i don't believe that for a second and elon's injury
or something it's because mark zuckerberg was like this should be going through ufc or or one
and elon was like we should do it it in Italy at the Coliseum.
And Mark Zuckerberg was like,
that's not a serious match.
Yep.
I feel like the Coliseum
is a pretty serious place to have a match.
Elon's idea was a more goofy thing.
And Zuckerberg's like,
no, I want a UFC title card.
Yeah, he said it was going to look purely Roman,
like old Roman.
All the modern stuff would not be in the frame.
So it just looked like an old,
you know, Coliseum battle.
I feel like Mark Zuckerberg's just trying to get away from the fact that everyone thinks he's kind of a robot i think mark is like
i would hurt that guy and i don't want to hurt his neck i don't want to break his arm and he's old
and i don't want to do that to him they could have made the fight in like six months and then
if elon had just done all that his entire the entire time and trained then it would have been
you know so you think if think if Mark had called his bluff
when Elon said,
come over to my house,
or I'll come over to your house,
do you really think that,
you think it would have gone through?
Right then and there?
Yeah.
If he said, fine, come on over.
Elon would have shown up.
Yeah, I think so.
They might have done a photo op, though.
Elon went and did practice with Lex Fridman.
I'm just, practice is practice.
I'm saying, but he asked for practice.
No, no, no.
Elon, yes, he is. He is? Yes. Lex rolls he asked for practice no no no Elon yes he is
he is?
Lex rolls
yeah
I don't know what his belt is
sorry I don't really keep up
with Lex Friedman
you should
yeah he's a martial artist
that's so funny
but Elon said
he wanted to have a practice
bout with Mark
it sounds like
Elon is more having
a silly fun time
and he wanted to goof off
and Zuckerberg wants
a serious UFC match
and Lex is a brown belt
for reference okay yeah
lex i've watched some videos he knows what he's doing yeah he said it was the toughest lex lex no
question would beat up everybody in this room yeah but would he beat up mark zuckerberg that's
the question absolutely if he's a blue belt if ever zuckerberg's blue belt and he's a brown belt
yes he would yeah it's it's like i i don't know how much i care about the idea that someone
accredited you with a colored belt it's just fair to say that Fridman's got way more experience fighting.
Yeah, it's just time spent doing it, you know?
Yeah.
I love Lex so much.
Let's see.
CH Cowboys says, I believe if Trump goes to prison, that is the clearest sign we're dealing with communists.
Let me just pause right there and be like, they're holding up giant red flags.
Literally, they are holding up giant red flags literally they are holding up
giant red communist flags you know he's i fear there can't be peaceful resolution if we're
dealing with a marxist insurgency yeah i think it's funny when it's like when you when you see
an antifa rally the the the biggest red flag that you're dealing with communists is that they're holding up a large red communist flag.
Oh, man.
What is this?
Cap says, saw an article on my phone today that said the posting Georgia indictments early wasn't an accident, but a practice run.
These people are insane.
They are.
Yeah, they are.
Shred Cow says, what are your thoughts on Mike Lindell's big plan
revealed today I don't know what was it did anyone see it
oh that's what he was talking about on our
on the loudest culture war
of all time on record
I didn't watch it I'll go back
and check it out
he did mention that he wanted to come on the show
on the 18th a tomorrow to come and
discuss what he was going to talk about last night
I don't think he's going to be here tomorrow
I don't either that was going to be here tomorrow.
I don't either.
That was Matt Brainerd and Mike Lindell.
It was a very loud culture.
I highly recommend everyone watch it.
Oh, tomorrow is going to be wild.
Tomorrow we have Laura Loomer, Bill Mitchell, and Kyle Becker.
Yeah.
And I.
And we're going to have a... We're going to attempt to have a conversation about conversing with DeSantis.
Cool.
I think it'll be cool. I think it'll be
an interesting conversation that I think a lot
of people want to hear.
It just might be very lively. That's how
I know to describe culture more.
Get your Timcast brew ready to go.
Brew that coffee early because it goes
live at what, 9am or 10am?
10am live tomorrow morning at youtube.com
slash Timcast and I imagine
it's going to be
laura spitting hard facts very very very very fast yes yeah yeah okay so don't let her gish gallop
you gotta hold control we'll see i i i honestly think the issue is i'm not gonna sit here and
be like oh ron detentions is donors, or otherwise. But I think talking about the campaign and, you know, policy, it's like there's fair criticisms.
We'll see how it goes.
We'll see how it goes.
I think it'll be a good time.
The thing that I find interesting, and again, there's this sort of existential debate about who's better or worse.
I try to, I keep looking at things very analytically, which I said earlier in the show.
If he doesn't win Iowa, it doesn't matter trump's gonna it's over and
this is all about accumulating the requisite number of delegates about 1400 delegates
you you don't get delegates by coming if you don't beat the guy right and at the end of the day this
good bad it's it's it doesn't it's an existential debate because at the end of the day, this good, bad, it's an existential debate because at the end of the day right now, Trump's organization in these early states is such that unless you show he can be beat, he's going to steamroll, collect the requisite number of delegates, and it's over by Super Tuesday.
So you can tell me that Ron DeSantis has the magic formula to do everything in the world.
If he can't actually take down Trump inowa because he's not really competing as much
in new hampshire then it's it doesn't matter right and that's that's what i keep coming back to
tell me how he can win all right blake says tim the republican party is the party of the working
class the working class is mostly normie folk sean is right people won't react to biden ballot
i just like this sean is right part yeah it was a good point you can clip that just
over and over again jason hutchinson says kevin mccarthy with a need for only one challenger to
challenge his speaker position after screwing us in the debt ceiling and the last budget fight
announced that he would do another continuing resolution on the next budget bill and no one
challenge i remember talking to matt Gaetz about the debt ceiling
and how they keep raising it.
My whole life, they've just raised the debt ceiling.
I'm like, what is it?
Is this a joke?
Like they say it's a ceiling that they continue to raise.
There's no ceiling.
And Matt was just looking at me like smiling
because he knew how ridiculous it is.
They all know.
How do you, what do we do?
I mean, it's just, there is no,
I mean, I guess you could say it's a temporary ceiling
that's going to be moved to a new position.
But beyond that, what infuriates me
is that when you have the fight,
they say you can't fight because if we don't do this, this is what's going to be moved to beyond that what what infuriates me is that when you have the fight they say you can't fight because if we don't do this is what's going to happen i get that right there's these economic consequences which are debatable but the point
is is that every time that we get there they go if we do this all these bad things are gonna happen
so let's wait till after let's raise it and then they it's no one ever does anything it's literally
like saying you know you got to lose weight but let's just go to the buffet one more time. And then no one actually ever doesn't. I just don't get the
debate. We, we, there are so many low hanging fruits that could be dealt with. And these guys
wait until the last minute and they're going to do it again. We're heading towards September.
There's, I think Congress is in session 12 days and they're going to go, we have to do a CR
because the government's going to run out of money. Well, where were you the 11 last months?
We do this, whether it's the debt ceiling or the continuing resolutions at the end of
the year, every time.
And then it's, guys, we're running out of time.
We got to do this.
Yeah, I found out that we can make hydrogen fuel real cheap now.
We can actually get paid to make hydrogen because you get the byproduct of graphene,
but carbon, and they can turn it into graphene and sell the graphene for four dollars and fifty cents for every kilogram
of carbon or of hydrogen that they produce so like we basically figured out how to make free
hydrogen how to get paid for making hydrogen why is that not immediately implemented now in the
government why is that an immediately the the number one move for the united states government
because that will make that's very specific yeah hydrogen maybe the energy committee should be
asked that question but also can i you're on the revenue side which i am a fan of as well but
why are we republicans the the constitution says that the house of representatives where all
funding shall start there's so many low hanging for why are we funding pbs and npr that that
should be like i mean and that's that's a minuscule amount. But the illustrative stuff show that you actually care.
I just don't get these easy ones.
Those are the layups.
Everybody would say, great.
You can get, again, I just can't.
I want to read this one here.
This is from, what does it say?
J Train M.
Come to Moyuk, North Carolina.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Oliver is playing this Saturday at Eagle Creek Golf Course.
Nice.
So you heard it here.
Everybody go.
Oh, my God.
Can you imagine being the manager at Eagle Creek Golf Course?
They're getting phone calls right now.
Get your tickets.
He put out a tweet that was like, I'll be at this farmer's market on August 15th.
It's so flooded, man.
Yeah, I think it was crazy. He was like,
I'll stay until 2 a.m. to shake hands.
I'm thinking, that poor farmers market organizer
must be like, but what about the parking?
Bender the Offender says,
Tim, do you think the U.S. will be in an active
Civil War and World War III if it escalates
to that in the same time period? No.
Because if the U.S. does destabilize
to the point of Civil War, we won't
be involved in World War III. won't be involved in world war
three we'll be involved in a civil war and there will there will be no world war three that's what
happened with the bolshevik revolution is they went internal split off and they basically weren't
involved in world war one yeah yeah they were and then the the revolution then the revolution began
and then they they pulled out yeah yeah it'll be interesting times cosmic surgeons has none
watched mike lindell today no ballot
harvesting i didn't i didn't watch mike lindell is that what it was about i mean he was a yeah
he said when he was here to debate that he was against ballots harvesting why just saying
he was saying that we needed to uh stick to the rules that if you uh if you're about harvesting
from i don't want to paraphrase this argument too much but if you're about harvesting you're ballot harvesting from, I don't want to paraphrase this argument too much, but if you're ballot harvesting,
you're doing something that we shouldn't support anyways.
Everyone should show up on election day
and have paper ballots and vote in person.
And the conversation was interesting
because it's a question of like,
well, these are the rules we have.
Should we let the other party
use the system to their advantage?
Or should we say,
we don't believe in these things,
so we should try and resist them?
I don't disagree with them,
but the ship has sailed. This is the point that we were talking about earlier guys guess what i i think ballot harvesting is ridiculous in fact it was illegal in a lot
of states and yet the dems weaponized it the ship has sailed either we keep complaining about it
or or we find out a way to undo it but you can't we're literally going to let them get away with
this uh and win more and more and more.
So I'm with Mike in principle, but either change the law or get on board.
Warren Heist says, I just watched that Arizona is going for the fifth indictment.
That's right. Yeah. But I think what I heard about Arizona is they're going after the state level stuff.
We'll see if they go after Trump. I could be wrong. Maybe they are.
Business phones, as Ian watched the whole clip.
The code would change the vote count and then eat itself so it couldn't be detected if the source code was examined.
In person, hand counted destructible paper ballots like we used to.
I'm sorry.
Wait.
He said that the code would eat itself.
The guy who said he hacked the voting machine said the code he put on it would change the votes and then self-destruct.
No, he didn't.
No, he hasn't.
No. He said that you wouldn't know that it changed the votes unless you had access to the code and you don't have access to the code he put on it would change the votes and then self-destruct. No, he didn't. No, he hasn't. No, he said that you wouldn't know that it changed the votes
unless you had access to the code and you don't have access to the code.
That's what the guy said.
This person says if you watch the whole clip.
I'll re-watch it again.
Maybe you're watching a shorter version of it.
Okay, thanks.
What do we have here?
Guga Siman says,
North Brazil former president Bolsonaro was sentenced to eight years of eligibility
by the Superior Electoral Court
for saying that the voting machines
were unreliable. Eight years of
eligibility? What does that mean? Probably ineligibility.
Ineligibility? I imagine so.
Mookie says,
Got the Appalachian Nights coffee. Smoothest
coffee I've ever had. Will buy again.
It's amazing. Look, I'll be completely honest
with my assessment on the coffee roberto rise with roberto jr 10 out of 10 it's my favorite
and then i have appalachian nights and i'm like oh man 10 out of 10 that's my favorite pumpkin
spice is mine it's good it's good not my favorite uh but it's good and um stand your grounds is so
rise with roberto jr and appalachian nights are battling for my top position because one's light
one's dark but man they're both good.
And then Stand Your Grounds is like right there in the middle.
French Roast to me is a C, C plus.
It's good.
It's a good cup of coffee.
It's better than like, you know, gas station coffee or something like that.
So I enjoy it.
But I got to tell you, the Appalachian Nights.
Wow.
And I have yet to try the decaf ones, though.
We did the samples of them a long time
ago i'll put it that way like i've tried them all but i need to have a cup of coffee now that
they're here packaged and cracked open because getting sample packages is different i tasted
the sleepy joe it's a little sweet i was surprisingly and like uh like bitter it's
like bittersweet i don't know i didn't see the i didn't see the beans and then it doesn't have
much of an aftertaste it's very clean clean. It's awesome. That's cool.
Let's grab some more.
Dylan Gilman says,
please provide a link to sign up for Cast Brew franchising newsletter.
We don't have one.
We have literally done nothing
towards the concept of franchising Cast Brew,
but I want to,
because I would love it
if there were a thousand locations in five years
and it was just a decentralized network.
That's what it's all about.
Everybody runs their own locations,
but people know that you can hang out there.
What I'm really excited for with it
is something we're talking about doing
called Saturday Morning Cartoons,
where parents bring their kids in.
It's like 7 a.m.
We have pancakes, sausage, eggs,
like buffet style,
and then the kids play and hang out.
The TVs are on with approved,
you know, Saturday morning cartoons.
And then you hang out till whenever you feel like it.
Maybe the event ends at noon or whatever. But when I grew up, we had Saturday morning cartoons.
And now you don't have any of that anymore. So this is a kind of like a secular community
building thing where a lot of people who don't go to church, they come to this and they hang out,
it gives some kind of facsimile of it. I don't think it's a perfect exchange, but people meeting
their neighbors, kids growing up near each other and becoming friends, I think is a really,
really important thing. Would you would you and i'm just throwing this out there i'm brainstorming uh
would you be willing to consider the new sean spicer show going on like in the afternoon
absolutely okay that's the plan that's okay the plan is that we have these tvs and when there'll
be some woman on her way to work and she'll be like i need to grab a cup of coffee and then
she'll look on her phone she'll be like okay you know casper coffee she walks in coffee. She walks in, she walks up to the counter and she goes, I'll take
the dark roast and leave room for cream. And they're like, you got it. And while they're
pouring it, she's like getting her money out. She looks up and there's a TV and there's Steven
Crowder talking about something or there's Viva Fry or there's Sean Spicer. And then she's just
sitting there. They go, here's your coffee, man. She goes, oh, oh, thank you. And she pays. And
then she's holding the coffee and she's looking at it and she sips a little bit. She goes, huh?
She walks out, she goes to work. And then someone's holding the coffee and she's looking at it and she sips a little bit she goes huh she walks out she goes to work and then
someone's like hey janet how's it going like how are you it's like no no what's going on like you
know i just heard about that thing the biden thing did you see that where he was telling the process
to fire the guy and i'll give you the money or whatever did you hear about that it's on the news
or something that's what i that's the goal you know it'd be cool as if it was the monitors were
all bluetooth and you could put it'd be nice if the volume's on, but sometimes I don't want to listen to TV when I'm drinking.
I just want to chill.
So if you could tune your-
There's an area, like-
Oh, cool.
The idea is there's an area with the TV.
And so if you're standing away from it, you'll be able to hear it, but you can sit down in
front of it and hear it.
A lot of places have it kind of like this.
There's the TV's on and you can sit down by it and you'll hear it walk away from it and
you don't.
Yo, we should get Pancake Maker for the kids so they can make their own pancakes have all oh no no they
have the automatic ones you ever see yeah yeah you press the hotels they have yep yeah press
the button and it's you watch the residents in it yeah those are great yeah and then it cooks
them on both sides at the same time that's what we gotta get hungry now get a good batter pancakes okay let's grab another super
chat matthew schneider says literally bought that song 10 seconds before you said buy it lol
great just gotta you gotta but you gotta tell your friends and family to buy it too
so if you know anybody who was like oh yeah i love that song or you know somebody who's listening to
it or you know someone you've shared with already you got to be like hey guys buy that on itunes
right now we want this guy to be a rock star we want rock stars to be synonymous
with being a good person who's taught who's singing about american values and fighting for
the working class and not about wet ass pussy you know what i mean like we got we got we got to work
for that okay you got to spend that dollar realign realign the culture and win the culture war
joseph says men six feet in the ground show
respect it's rough yeah man i watched a video where he was playing live and i could see people
singing along to it nodding along and you could see like these guys knew exactly what he was
saying amazing people are saying it's an anthem wow whoa what do you got here we got some more
super chats joshua lively says this is my first real
super chat to you guys but i thought i should tell you my family and i just saw a string of
20 to 30 green lights flying in the sky over the house never saw anything like this have video and
photo to send as well do you want to you want to get that you want to watch that yeah is it a it's
a video he just tweeted at you right yes tweeted at Ian Crossland. But I bet it was drums.
Make sure you're following him because he's in a race.
Yeah.
I'm in a race with Clint Russell.
Liberty Lockdown.
Pod.
To 100,000 followers.
It could be lasers.
Ray's Tiny Dinosaur says,
Rip Roberto Jr.
I recently got six chicks.
One of them turned out to be a rooster,
so I had to find him a new home.
His adoptive parents now want to find him a new home because he's so aggressive frowny face that's the
bummer about roberto jr he was super chill roberto is roberto's aggressive you know he's he's he was
the king and it's because he was born on a chicken farm and all the boys got cold but him because i
thought he was a girl and then uh he got to grow up roberto jr was raised
by us so he was super calm and relaxed around people and then he had a heart attack and died
suddenly yep just abruptly and i looked it up and it's like sometimes roosters have heart attacks
and i was like damn and then his sister died shortly after that yeah unrelated it's lots of
tragedy around here with the chickens it's hard chickens die a lot i think they can see you know
birds can see the electromagnetic field.
They used to think it was like,
I think it was iron in their beak
or a chemical in their beak
that they could navigate with,
but now they believe
they can actually see.
It's a protein in their eye
or something,
and they can actually see
the Earth's magnetic field.
That's how they all fly in synergy,
that murmuration
where you see these big flocks
all coming together
and moving it.
They can actually see it.
I wonder if they could see it
and if they were connected to it,
and that's why his sister
felt such pain that she she flew away shortly after that's crazy it
was the it was three three babies that hatched the first eggs that we hatched and they were a
weak batch we knew it you know that like the chickens we got were young they had their eggs
we we hatched them now they got tons of babies roberto's got oh man roberto's
got like 30 kids and like 30 grandkids did you decide uh who's gonna be his heir not yet they've
got a little bit older but roberto roberto the third roberto jr's son roberto jr the second
roberto jr jr yeah it was really funny it was him JJ. What's the boxer?
George Foreman, right?
George.
George.
George.
His daughters were like Georgina, right?
Yeah.
We were trying to figure out a name for Roberto Jr.
And then I was just like, he's Junior.
You know, he's like Roberto's son.
And then they fought after a little while.
Roosters don't fight the way people think they fight.
Like we have little Luke in the Chicken City
right now with Roberto. They mind their...
They stay away from each other. And they just mind each other.
They mind their own business. And then they have their
girls or whatever. But you can have
a bunch of different roosters, depending on how many hens you have.
People think that you put two roosters together
and they just start going at each other. They don't.
But sometimes they do.
Because they're like dudes. You know, sometimes dudes fight.
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Yeah, so you finish that, then you can have a cup of Tim Kass brew,
then jump right in.
I mean, we timed it.
I like the flavor.
Yeah.
And also, I'm in a race with Clint Russell, Liberty Lockdown Pod on X,
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