Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #843 Trump & Tucker To CRUSH Fox News GOP Debate With LIVE Interview w/Laura Loomer

Episode Date: August 19, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Kellen join Laura Loomer to discuss Tucker Carlson's plans to interview Trump instead of Trump debating on Fox, DeSantis sliding down to third place in the latest polls, Kid Rock being roasted for drinking Bud Light, & Elon Musk planning to remove the block feature on Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On the same day as the GOP debate, Tucker Carlson will be interviewing Donald Trump. We don't know if it'll be the exact same time, but this is it's going to be very, very bad for the GOP debate. And it gives Trump exactly what he wants center stage with no interruptions. And a lot of people are attacking Trump saying he should debate. And the argument from the Trump camp is that why? Why would he give airtime to any of his detractors and opponents? Now what's going to happen is that Trump's going to be doing this interview with Tucker. It's going to smash the internet. And I think the ratings for the debate will be much smaller than they'd hoped. Partly,

this is due to Fox putting out this memo, or I should say there's a story where Fox was saying that no one can rebroadcast or restream the debate. Well, okay, then no one will talk about it. So we'll talk about that that as and also as sort of a follow-up to the conversation we were having this morning on the culture war with trump versus desantis and where that goes and then we've got some big cultural news two big stories one elon musk says he's going to get rid of the block feature on x which has everyone on x losing their minds although i don't think it's the biggest story in the world it could result in x getting banned from apple if he actually does this so So we'll see how that plays out.

We've got a bunch of other stories. Some are a bit more fun. It's Friday night, so we'll goof off a little bit. Kid Rock reportedly was seen drinking a Bud Light. And we're all deeply offended. But we'll investigate this one as well. Before we get started, my friends, head over to InkslayerEntertainment.com. This is a comic.

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about this and a whole lot more is Laura Loomer. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you do? Well, my name is Laura Loomer. I'm an investigative journalist and a conservative activist. I got my career started working undercover at Project Veritas with James O'Keefe, where I worked undercover exposing voter fraud. And I was embedded inside the Hillary Clinton campaign exposing corruption. And after I went on or completed working with Project Veritas and James O'Keefe, I then started my own media company. And I then started making my videos, which were called Loomerd videos, and amassed a very large online following and found myself banned on every single social media site. So then I ran for Congress. Yeah, I was really one of the first people to be completely deplatformed as well. So now I'm doing everything that I can to help President Trump.

I'm sure a lot of your viewers are familiar with who I am and the work that I've done. And if they aren't, it's probably because I was deplatformed for seven years. They banned you because you're too effective. Yes. When you got banned from Twitter, you cuffed yourself to the doors of Twitter. Yeah, their headquarters. And you became the top trend on the platform that tried to remove you. You what else did you had migrants go to Nancy Pelosi's house? Is that one thing? Yeah. So when they wouldn't when they wouldn't give the funding

right to President Trump. Remember when Nancy Pelosi shut the government down? Yeah, it was the longest shutdown in U.S. history. And I just decided, well, this is ridiculous. It seems like they just want to have open borders. And yet they live in mansions, a lot of these politicians, and they have their own secure homes. And she had said, I remember laying in bed watching the press conference in her bright pink blazer. She said, a wall is an abomination. A wall is an immorality, an immorality. And it is not who we are as a nation.

And I said, well, Nancy Pelosi has like 25 mansions and they all have walls. So I was in Arizona at the time and I drove a rental car down to the U.S. Mexico border and I crossed over at the Ote Mesa line just to show people with my camera and how easy it was to do. And I said, well, you know, now that I'm in California, I hear there's a lot of really nice, generous Democrat politicians that think we should have sanctuary. Let's go find them. And I went to the Home Depot and I found three illegal aliens and I speak Spanish. Right.

A lot of people don't know that. And I told them that we were going to be filming a documentary at a politician's home. And in California, right, they don't care. The illegal aliens. Right. It's catch and release. So they're protected. They're not scared. And I had said, are you here illegally? Excuse me. And they had said,

yes, in Spanish, of course, you know, they were from Mexico and Guatemala. And so I paid them and they came with me and we ended up pitching a tent on Nancy Pelosi's lawn and hopping, hopping her fence. And I had them hang photos of high profile cases of American citizens who had been murdered by illegal aliens on the tent with zip ties. And then we were playing football and drinking Mexican Cokes. And then we even tried to open her door at her house. And then eventually, right, I thought everybody was welcome there. She called the cops. This is online, too. You can watch it on my YouTube channel. And she called the cops on us. And it was hilarious because it was the number one trending story on Twitter at the time,

even though I was completely banned on Twitter. And you could hear the cop on the phone with her. And this whole thing is being live streamed, right? And ultimately, she just had to let us go because how much of a hypocrite would she be? But ultimately, we were deported from her house. And then I did it at Gavin Newsom's house, too, at the California governor's mansion. Well, so I got arrested. This is why they ban you from everything.

But thanks for hanging out. We'll talk about this and a lot more. Yeah, we got Phil Labonte. Hi, I'm Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. I'm Ian Crossland. What's up, everybody? And I am Kellen. I'm pressing the buttons tonight.

Make sure you guys follow CasperCoffeeOnX.com. It's a new Twitter, new X account for the best coffee brand. So go do that. Thanks, guys. All right, let's jump into the first story. This is the news. So Donald Trump is not going to be debating the rest of the Republican candidates. And we got news that Trump will reportedly do a sit-down interview with Tucker Carlson on the day of the GOP debate on Fox News. Former President Trump will reportedly sit down with Tucker.

The first debate of the Republican primary is scheduled to take place on Wednesday in Milwaukee. Who is that? Turn that volume down. I'm turning it down. The New Times reports former President Donald J. Trump plans to upstage the first Republican primary debate on Wednesday by sitting for an online interview with former news host Tucker Carlson. I'm imagining they're going to publish it Tucker's normal time, which will absolutely compete with the GOP debate. And then who's going to want to watch the GOP debate?

Nobody. Oh, that's true. I can't imagine that anyone watching the GOP debate over Donald Trump with Tucker. Is it going to be Vivek and Ron? And some other people. Who else is running? Jim Scott? Mike Pence. Mike Pence is going to be there? Nikki Haley. I'll watch it for Vivek.

I'm excited to see him. I heard a lot of comments. People were saying online that Vivek is going to be like Tulsi Gabbard to Ron DeSantis as Kamala. Vivek is going to... Vivek is going to Vivek is too good at this it'll be I mean maybe but it's not it doesn't matter because

it's not gonna be as much fun because like no matter how bad DeSantis is he's not as terrible as Kamala Harris like that was that was an absolutely beautiful takedown of Kamala but you know and again again it is not fair to compare Ron DeSantis to Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris is like at the bottom of the barrel, like like like Gollum from Lord of the Rings.

One percent. And, you know, Ron's actually done a good job in Florida to varying degrees of argument. I would disagree. Well, as I say, at least there's an argument. Kamala Harris, I don't think has support from literally anybody, not even Democrats. Do you think there's a better governor than him? Yeah, look, I think that Florida has always had pretty good governors, right? It's pretty much a red state. It's not necessarily red in terms of our political makeup, but in terms of the governors that we've had over the last few years, yeah, we have had Republican governors. But really, Florida is the largest swing state in the nation, and I wouldn't necessarily say that it is a pure red state.

What happened is that during COVID, you had a large influx of people from New York and New Jersey and California moving into Florida because they wanted to escape the lockdowns because they thought that Florida was gonna be more free and open than places like New York and New Jersey. And while it's true that our restrictions

and our lockdowns were not as draconian, at one point in time they were and they did lock down parts of Florida and there were lockdown orders and masking orders. And Ron DeSantis did advocate for the vaccine. And so then what happened is a lot of those people that moved, well, those are going to be conservatives for the most part, right? Who moved to a state to escape leftist policies. Well, they registered to vote and then the Republican registration rate surpassed the Democrat registration rate. But the actual makeup of Florida is not majority Republican.

And so this is like one of those misconceptions that we were talking about this morning because I really feel like they've been trying to position Ron DeSantis as a Manchurian candidate and they're trying to push this narrative that he's the only successful governor in the country because they needed somebody that could challenge Donald Trump. But Laura's correct. We talked about this when DeSantis won.

The narrative they're putting out is that he's such a good governor. He converted all of these people to the Republican Party. But look at Miami Dade. What it is true, I do believe that many people probably said, you know what i'm gonna vote for you know i used to be a democrat now vote for ron but we know we had mass migration into florida it was the number one destination that may be to ron de santis's credit for whatever reason but it's conservatives who moved in and were already going to vote conservative that gave him the massive 20 margin i want to give him credit because that he attracted conservatives to florida but i also want to make sure we give decent credit to the democrats for being so awful

they drove people out of their states into florida like the way ron handled covid uh the lockdowns it eventually he got to the point was like we're done we're not doing this anymore and he spoke up for a lot of people in the united states that were on a downward spiral towards lockdown or shut down but the thing is is that he spoke up about it, right? He went on Fox News and we talked about this this morning. He would go on Fox News and talk about the free state of Florida. And one thing that I would say that Ron DeSantis' greatest accomplishment is that he has a wonderful PR team, right? He has a great PR team that is not the people that work for him. I'm saying the PR team that's been able to manufacture this image, this facade, right?

That he is somehow Trump without the baggage. I'm not saying that the people, right, who work for him are good. No, no, no. Hold on. You're correct. Early on, that's what they were doing. And then they went, they lit themselves on fire. I'm being facetious, of course.

I'm saying that I personally, right, as a Floridian and as somebody who's run for Congress in Florida twice as an America first Republican, you know, I see on the ground Ron DeSantis is not a good governor and they've been able to use other people's experiences and the outlier experience of right. The covid lockdowns, which nobody really expected that to happen. And that's really what they use as, you know, their talking points to say, oh, he's such a great governor. Well, is he? Right now, we have the highest homeowner insurance rates in the entire country. The average rate is about $1,700 nationally. And in Florida, it's $6,000 or more. And after this year, it's expected to jump another 40% to 60%. We have some of the highest utility bills in the entire country as well, which have increased over 20% in the last year. And that's all because Ron DeSantis

accepted millions of dollars of campaign donations from the utility companies like FPL, that's Florida Power and Light, as well as the insurance companies. And he actually allowed for the insurance industry to participate in writing the insurance bill that made it so that homeowners in Florida can't really sue anymore, right? They can't really sue for fraud. And so what you have now is this massive homeowner insurance crisis, and it's unaffordable. People can't even afford their homeowner insurance rates, which is costing more than their mortgages. And you're going to see a market crash in Florida, similar to what we saw in 2008. And I believe, and I predict, and a lot of people are predicting this as well, that it's going to trigger a national housing market crash. And what's going to happen to all

those people who moved to Florida thinking, oh, I'm going to escape communism. They're not even able to afford the homes that they're now living in. Is it because there's so much natural disaster danger for like hurricanes and floods and stuff that the insurance is just out of control? And yes, but at the same time, right? Rick Scott had this under control. The insurance crisis has severely worsened under Ron DeSantis' term as governor and insurance rates have quadrupled under Ron DeS's uh leadership since he's been governor since 2019

they made it so the homeowners couldn't sue the insurance companies yeah so they you'll have to you can pull up the bill uh it might be helpful tim if you pull this up and uh i actually wrote a substack article about this and it was posted by um president trump i don't know the exact number but just type in um a special session Florida insurance bill. And there were these different measures because they had said, oh, they had argued that the reason why the rates were so expensive is because there were frivolous lawsuits. And so what happened is the lobbyists, right? We have a state insurer of last resort in the state of Florida called Citizens Insurance. The CEO of that company was also the lobbyist who was

participating in writing this legislation and pushing it forward. And what they wanted is they wanted it so that homeowners in Florida were not able to sue if they discovered that their insurance carrier was engaging in fraudulent activity. And you could really make the argument that given the fact that these companies are insolvent, and Governor DeSantis himself has recently admitted that Citizens Insurance, which is the insurer of last resort, right? That's where people try to go and get insurance if their insurance carrier drops them. And we're now seeing a lot of these insurance carriers leave the state of Florida.

Well, they're insolvent. How are they able to pay out claims? What's the point of people paying, right, their insurance premiums if these companies are not even going to be able to fulfill their claims? So you could make the argument that that's a fraudulent business practice. And we see this now in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian

from the hurricane last year. If you go to Southwest Florida and you fly above, you'll see just a sea of blue tarps because so many people have been abandoned. They talked about it on TV because it was great press for Ron DeSantis getting reelected as governor, but those people have not had their insurance claims fulfilled or paid out. So there's going to be a homelessness crisis. It sounds like they're trying to stop a downward spiral or an expiration of the insurance company if they can't make the payments out then the people want to sue them because they couldn't make the payments that would make them they have to pay lawsuits that

they can't afford is there like a way to appeal to the federal government to to bail these these floridians out that don't have homes i mean they're americans first and then they're floridians in my well what about the people what about the people in hawaii i mean it's a similar situation if the natural disaster wipes out a swath of homes look how long the government waited look how long biden waited thank god they're in there now what i was saying if you look at that article you see what i was talking about the the state insurer of last resort uh property insurance right so so exactly as i just said right um you could read it i know it's a law it's very lot. It's very complex.

I wrote a sub stack about this and it was shared by President Trump a couple of months ago. But this is a this is a serious issue. We just had farmers insurance leave the state of Florida, abandoning Floridians in the middle of hurricane season. I mean, what are these people going to do? Triple A also decided that they were not going to renew homeowner policies in the state of Florida. I got to tell you, people have kept telling us to move to Texas or Florida. And the reason we went to West Virginia instead. Well, I tell people like weather is a huge issue. I lived in Miami for a little bit and that matters.

It does. Yeah. I like Florida. I do. There's a lot of really, really great things about a lot of people moving down there. But yo. But that's a problem. This right here is a big issue. There's a lot of really, really great things about it. A lot of people are moving down there. But yo, this right here is a big issue. That's a huge problem. And what you're seeing on the ground in Florida, it's a major retirement hub, right?

So where I ran for Congress, the villages, the largest retirement community in the entire country, the oldest district in the nation per capita, these are people on fixed incomes, okay? These are senior citizens on Social Security. And do you think that a senior citizen can afford a $5,000, $6,000? And in some instances, we've even seen $25,000 increases in people's homeowner insurance rates. I know that sounds obscene, but the most egregious case I've seen thus far is an increase, and I know it's going to sound crazy, of $98,000 per year, an additional $98,000 per year on

insurance. That is what's happening as a result of this insurance crisis in the state of Florida. So while all these rich people from the East Coast are moving to Florida, all these seniors are basically having to move out of Florida because they can't afford it anymore. Let's jump to this next story, which is in line. It's from Florida Politics. New National GOP 2024 poll shows Ron DeSantis in third place. Behind, obviously, Vivek Ramaswamy. In the prediction market right now, let me see if I can, I don't know, I got real. There we go.

This is crazy. When I saw this, you know, we were talking about it before, that even when they're tied, Vivek is below Ron DeSantis. And it could be because D becomes 4R in the alphabetical order or whatever. But as of right now, this one blew my mind. Vivek Ramaswamy and the prediction market for Predict It is in second place three points above Ron DeSantis. Now, I'll make a few things clear in this. Prediction markets are not polls.

It's the sentiment of people. Who do they think is going to win they are basically betting money in real time like stocks on who they think is going to improve ron desantis going down means people think they will lose money by holding shares in his prediction mark and in his prediction contract and people are buying the vague at 17 cents because they believe it will actually increase. These are not polls. We had, uh, you know, with Bill Mitch, Bill Mitchell was discussing this with us earlier in the culture war podcast. And he said, you know, and we had Cal Becker as well. Becker said that real clear politics is better. I do prefer aggregate polling instead

of singular polls. Like they mentioned this one article that he's in second place. Yeah. Well, the vague, I think has like three polls showing him in second and DeSantis has like eight, but these polls go back a week or two or two or three weeks or even a month. So when they do these aggregate polling, just consider the difference between prediction markets, which is real time, short-term changes and prediction markets, which is long-term sentiment. There's, there's reasons to weigh both differently. But for the time being, I will tell you one of the things I think that's helping Vivek right now, the reason why he may have jumped up, is that at 3.05 a.m. this morning, Elon

Musk tweeted, he states his beliefs clearly, re-axing, I guess, quoting Vivek Ramaswamy says, truth, God is real. There are two genders. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels. Reverse racism is racism. An open border is no border. Parents determine the education of their children. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.

Capitalism lifts people up from poverty. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history elon musk is now promoting vivek i mean they love this guy i'm wondering do we do we see this continue does vivek overtake ron desantis what do you think is going to happen in next week's debate yeah i think so easy enough all right i agree moving on i mean i have mean, I have a lot. I have a lot more to say, but I just talked a lot. So I'll let other people talk.

I just don't feel like there's a lot of of of groundswell appreciation of Ron DeSantis. Like people can, you know, say what they want about his record. There are people that are going to cast in Florida. I mean, as a governor, there are people that are going to cast it as positive. There are people that are going to cast it in Florida, I mean, as a governor. There are people that are going to cast it as positive. There are people that are going to cast it as negative and stuff. But at the end of the day, people tend to vote with their gut more than with their belief in policy or whatever. And I think that it is more likely that Vivek is going to communicate with people better than Ron does. And that might be because of the fact that

you know apparently ron has this is what i this is what i've heard but ron has a problem relating to people he's not the you know he's not the guy you're gonna want to have a beer with for like the old george w bush line was i we've had vivek on the show uh irl twice i was here once it was when we were at we're actually using charlie kirk studio down in florida or in arizona sorry that was awesome and then he came on here when seamus was guest hosting but i also got to talk to him on the culture war and he's easy guy to communicate with he will answer the question you ask him even if it's very very difficult he is quick-witted and smart he he handles it very very well and he's really good with liberals because

he could handle me right i change the subject i'm asking about mars colonization he was all about it he's he's got an answer he's so let's go back to the aleppo moment the the very terrible oh my god i wanted to kill myself when that happened because that was like my peak like this is libertarian guy i'm like now's our time man the libertarians gary's got it here we go and i'm watching morning joe and and like and i'm just like all my heart sank and i'm like i i can't believe for those that are not familiar this is uh gary johnson right yes he's doing an interview and he's asked how would he deal with aleppo and he goes and what is aleppo yeah yeah aleppo was a city in syria that was just just flat the civil war, like at the height of

the time. And it ruined his campaign. Absolutely. They were talking about rocket. They were talking about like the end days. And that was like being spoken about on the news. And he had no clue. So let's go through this.

I told people like my view is if Donald Trump was asked a question about insert random topic, if he's sitting down and someone and the interviewer said, I want to get your thoughts on Roberto the rooster. Trump, having no idea what he's talking about, would go, look, I know a lot of people want to talk about Roberto, but we've got to focus on jobs in this country. We've got a border that he would he would adapt and pivot. Vivek, smart enough to do the same thing. Ron would do some facsimile of I don't see him being quick-witted enough to deal with these difficult situations. Another thing that's going to happen that you're going to see is that Vivek Ramaswamy has written books about woke culture and he's going to, well,

Ron DeSantis is going to find out very quickly that just talking about woke and talking about Disney and talking about COVID and pretending to be against childhood transitions isn't going to be enough to get him through this debate. Ron DeSantis has an issue, as you just said, communicating with people and relating to people. And he doesn't really have that likability factor. You see that he's very awkward in person. And this is because he's on the spectrum. Politico, you can pull up the article if you want, actually wrote an article about how Ron DeSantis might be autistic. And there are lawmakers in the Florida legislature who have talked about how he has Asperger's. I know people who have worked with

Ron DeSantis in the past, former staffers who have said that he has Asperger's. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with people who have Asperger's, but obviously one of the issues that comes with, you know, being on the spectrum or having some form of autism is that sometimes you lack social skills, right? That's one of the main characteristics about it. And so Ron DeSantis, right, you'll see him in these situations where people will come up to him and say, there was one that I'll never forget where he was, I believe in Iowa, and somebody goes, oh, I just drove eight hours to come see you. And Ron DeSantis goes, oh, great.

And he walks away. Like he didn't even ask the guy, like if you want a photo or how you doing. And so Vivek Ramaswamy has written books about woke and Ron's not gonna be able to get away with just saying, oh, you know, like, yeah, we're gonna combat wokeism. Well, how is Ron gonna combat wokeism

when one of his top lobbyists is a guy named Slater Bayless, who's a lobbyist for bud light how is he going to combat childhood transitioning when another one of his top lobbyists is a guy named mark lampkin who represents a company called abby okay a pharmaceutical company called abby that is the manufacturer of a drug called lupron which is a drug used to chemically castrate children you understand like he needs to be called out for this hypocrisy. What you're talking about with Vivek about, you know, and DeSantis about woke is a great point

because Vivek really understands the philosophy that's going on at the left now. I don't know exactly how deep Ron's understanding is. I don't feel like Ron really, you know, understands the philosophies behind it.

Whereas I do feel like the vague understand. Exactly. You know, he understands he's he knows who Mark Hughes is. You know, he knows the leftists that are writing the philosophies and writing the academic papers that are having significant effects on the culture today. He's aware of the of the actual problems in the philosophy. A lot of a lot of people are going to say oh you know we're talking about vague and ron it's like well yes these are the guys fighting behind trump for the next position so i think it's it's warranted i don't i don't

care to say if ron's on the spectrum or whatever that seems i don't know whatever tough to measure no but who cares right we can just say it simply no but it's bad with people yeah we're not trying to i'm not trying to be derogatory. I'm just saying that it would explain why he has such a hard time communicating with people. And you'll see the Never Back Down PAC and you'll see his campaign say, oh, well, we raised $150 million, which, you know, it's not really true, right? That's another lie. But all the money in the world, as I said, this money isn't going to be enough to buy Ron DeSantis the personality transplant that he so desperately needs. I saw the video of him serving eggs to people and he wasn't looking at them. And

they didn't even know who the hell he was in Iowa. And then you have Bill Mitchell on this morning being like, oh, yeah, Bob Vander Plaats is a kingmaker in Iowa and Ron DeSantis is going to win. I mean, the guy's literally putting toothpicks and eggs as Donald Trump flies his plane over and cucks him in real time. Donald Donald Trump, there is no question, is so good. Super good with. You know, you want a fist bump. Air fist bump. Yeah, that's what I was laughing at.

Go Trump. So Trump walks into a room and he commands this entertaining presence. Yeah. I went to the White House for the social media summit and and I didn't know what to expect. And Trump was basically doing stand up for an hour and we were all laughing. He was just nailing it. Ron is the opposite of that. Vivek nowhere near as good as Trump's commanding presence, but at the very least, he can hold his own in a conversation with quick wit. I guess the question is, though, where does Vivek go? He's not going to be Trump. He's not going to be president. What is he doing? Where does he end up? A cabinet position, perhaps.

I thought so. I think he wants a cabinet position. I think it's obvious that Vivek is not going to be president, but I do appreciate the fact that he actually is running the campaign that Ron DeSantis, if he wanted to run for president, should have been running, right? Vivek Ramaswamy was the only other candidate for president that showed up to the rally I organized in front of the Miami courthouse when President Trump was arraigned. He had a press conference, and that was a really big act of courage, because think about it. Those are all Trump supporters there.

He knows. He didn't know if he was going to get booed or he was going to get chased away. But actually, the Trump supporters there embraced him and went up to him and thanked him because he passed out, you know, a press statement saying that when if he were to get elected as president, the first thing he would do is pardon President Trump. And he has not really attacked President Trump much. I haven't really seen any direct attacks. And in fact, he's always the first one to come out with a statement whenever Trump has an indictment. Unlike Ron DeSantis, who pretends like he doesn't know what's going on and waits 24 hours to issue a statement and then won't even say Trump's name. I think you nailed it when you said Vivek is running the campaign DeSantis should have

run because Vivek is setting himself up for what's after this election. Yeah, I think he's another another level. Vivek is like a brilliant genius mastermind business strategist. He's, I think Trump sees a lot of himself in Vivek, which is why he respects him so much from when he was a young entrepreneur. And, but, but Vivek is like top level one point zero zero zero 1% genius human. So, you know,

whether or not he's not as famous as Trump. So I, that's why I personally feel like Trump's name recognition is going to get him 50 million votes. Well, also, you know, Rhonda Santos is like a prostitute, you know, Ron DeSantis is like a prostitute. You know, he's like a cheap hooker.

He's on his knees. He's on his knees begging all these billionaire Wall Street hedge fund guys like Ken Griffin and other other billionaires like Doug Leone of Sequoia to donate to his campaign because he's not a billionaire. He's not wealthy. And I'm not trying to sound like an elitist, but Donald Trump is a billionaire. OK, he self-financed a lot of his first campaign. And people know Donald Trump long before they knew Donald Trump long before he was ever president. And Vivek, similarly, he has a net worth, from my understanding, that's close to almost one billion billion. And so he doesn't need to get on his knees like

a cheap hooker and beg these Wall Street donors and these GOP establishment donors who hate Donald Trump for money because he can sell finance. And you have to look at the fact that Ron DeSantis has a $250 million campaign operation, and he has blown through most of his cash. He doesn't have enough money anymore to run a campaign all the way until the Iowa caucus on January 15th, which is why the Never Back Down Super PAC is having to foot the bill for so many things that he's doing.

So that's another advantage that I think you're going to see Vivek is going to come from behind and he's going to continue to rise in the polls because eventually it's going to become a matter of resources. Yeah. Vivek has money and Ron DeSantis doesn't.

He also seems to be very intelligent about how he spends his money, Vivek, because he does shows like with Jordan Peterson yesterday, 300,000 views at this point with one of the smartest guys in the world, Jordan Peterson. That cost Vivek nothing. He just sat in his living room and paid zero to get 300,000 eyeballs. He's on Twitter, 50,000 hits on each video that's going up. Elon Musk is retweeting it for another 200,000.

He's probably gained a million voters yesterday just from all this media blitz in the last 48 hours. And that costs nothing. It's all social media. Where's Ron's social media presence? I always think about when Carrie Lake was running. She was saying she was like applying for a job, right, when she was running for office. And the voters are the hiring managers, right? So I always think about that. And it's like, if you're two candidates for the job

or DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy, it's almost, you know, hands down, Vivek is the better candidate for the job for whatever you need him to do. I just think like day one, I'm not going to worry about Vivek when he's given the keys, you know? Well, I don't think that we should just say

we're not going to worry about him because look, I met Vivek. I think he's a nice guy. And I like the fact that he's coming out in support of President Trump. But, you know, I'm critical of everybody. And I think that we also need to be we also need to kind of look into Vivek's ties right with the pharmaceutical industry and his his connections with Big Pharma. And two things can be true at once. You can be an excellent communicator and you can be a nice guy and we can appreciate all the things that he's doing to support President Trump and speak out against a weaponized government. But also, I think that we

need to, you know, at least be aware of and do our own research like I do, right, to understand who these people are tied to, you know, how they made their money, what that's going to mean if they ever do get elected, what kind of position would he be offered if he wanted a cabinet position in the Trump administration? And those are questions that should be asked. What I like about Vivek, too, is that he's very open, it seems, when people are confrontational with him. Right. I saw that confrontation with the LGBTQ activists. And whenever he's asked a question, he doesn't say, oh, go away or security. Come take this person away. He's pretty head on, right?

He jumps into the to the to the to the vipers done. I want to show some archives here. This is Vivek Ramaswamy, February 11th, 2021, 4757 followers. I just grabbed a random date from a couple of years ago. Fast forward to December 8th, 2022, 156,000 followers. Jump a few months ahead to March 2023, 364,000 followers. And in less than a year, he has jumped to 1 million followers. This dude is, like you said, he's running the campaign Ron should have been running.

I don't think ron's capable of anything remotely close to this guy this guy's like a gem he people like this don't appear all the time and and and most importantly the vague i think is actually campaigning for after the election yeah he's never he can't say it you know so when he was here i was like i think you're not gonna i know you're not gonna win and i think you know you're not gonna win but you're you're doing this anyway, because there's a lot more that comes with it. It changes the conversation.

You get on the debate stage. You can bring some issues to the forefront. And he's like, look, look, I'm running to win. Yeah. Yeah. But he's a smart guy. He knows what comes next is after this election. So if Trump, and this is an, if, and I don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole,

if he gets taken off a ballot, somehow a ballot in any state state that was kind of the topic from today's show a little bit and that would basically if you can't get 270 you can't win who do you think the debate stands a chance against the democratic party hold on if they take trump off the ballot they're 2024 is going to be wild let's talk about what happens in 2024 if trump Trump is removed from any state, they'll try to make that state award its electors to the Democrat. Maybe they'll try and make, I doubt this, but award it to someone, I don't know, libertarian or something. It's like, well, we're not going to give it to Democrats because we're being fair.

But you need to get 270. If you don't, it goes to the House of Representatives. They cannot let that happen. I have no idea what's going to happen. The speculation is they'll take Trump's name off the ballot in Michigan or Pennsylvania or Georgia. I think Georgia is the key target. Yeah, they're trying to use the 14th Amendment to get him on charges of, well, sedition,

of course, so that they can use the 14th Amendment to try to remove him from certain states. That's why they want this to be a very, very fast trial, because they they want to knock Trump out before the primaries conclude. That's why I was saying when Trump came out and said everybody should drop out of the race, he's got a point. If they all dropped out right now, the Democrats hands are tied. If they remove his name from the ballot pre primary, they say, look, we didn't get rid of the Republicans. You have a choice. You just can't vote for the for the criminal. If everyone drops out and right now Trump has confirmed the nominee, the removal of Donald Trump would be them saying the Republican Party has been excised from the vote. And then that's a shock to the system. I'm not saying I know what happens after that.

But frogs boiling in a pot is a bad scenario. People being shocked to the point of waking up is preferable. The only way they can pull this off, if is if there was if the primaries are not concluded and there was someone else that if Trump were to be removed, people would would would vote for. What do you think about like a Vivek RFK ticket? No, you don't like RFK. I'm like, look, man, RFK is better than a lot of the options yes you know what i mean and it's kind of like my i mean my i think of a trump ramaswamy ticket would be like my the best and i've talked to you about this or i don't i'm not into trump i mean i don't dislike i don't i got issues with them you know calling rosie a fat pig i feel like he alienated half the world and like

i need a uniter i need someone that's going to like help us move forward i think unity is cliche you know i think that uh there's no really there's really no such thing as unity and i think it's like a very kumbaya concept and i don't think that we really need to be focused on unity in this country we are we are we are in a political revolution right now and one the party that's in control is literally trying to put conservatives and Trump supporters in jail so that they can die in prison simply because of the person they support or the fact that they believe that the election was stolen. There's no room to play nice. There's no more. There's no more talk about civility, no more talk about unity. We're in a war to save our country. And this is the problem, right? This is why we're in the mess today is because so many people, and this is no disrespect to you, but so many people in this country are focused on civility and decorum and, you know, let's go along to get along. So many, so many people on the right are like that.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The leftists are burning down cities. The right, the right is like that. And that's why the Republicans lose. The country is called the United States. It's united. We have unity. And that's the reason we function as 50 states.

Without it, it'd be a civil war. So we need to. I know, but we're in the civil war right now. We don't have unity. I think it's an illusion. And let me address that. I don't think anyone can win on that platform. Let me address that from the left.

One of the issues with the Declaration of Independence was that there were, I think it was what, South Carolina and Georgia would not sign on unless they removed Thomas Jefferson's criticisms of slavery. So unity doesn't always mean the best things. I can understand the argument among the founding fathers. They were like, ah, okay, well, we have no choice. I do believe that Quebec was, it was a colony of the crown and they did not want to join up.

So they were like, we desperately need other colonies to agree with us. Thus, let's just ignore the slavery thing for now and i'm kind of like wow that sucked that sucked but i get the argument you know i'm not going to sit here and criticize the finding fathers for winning the revolutionary war just to consider sometimes this idea of unity means unifying with people who are very very bad and very bad hitler tried to unify europe i mean it was not the best form of unification right so right now the challenge we i see in this country is he didn't try to extermination is not unification seizing paris was a step forward no no no hold on hold on you could make the argument that hitler was doing horrifying awful things he was conquering it to

unify it like the the simple academic term is unification of europe is what people refer to and no one's ever saying like that's not an argument to make that i have not it's in agreement with tim unification is not always good i was not aware that they called it unification i did not i was not aware that the extermination of jews and gypsies but what he was unification but but that what hitler was doing invading other countries and stealing territory trying to invade russia was conquer and dominate under one umbrella to control everything. And yes, he was a psychotic eugenicist, anti-Semite, racist, and all of those awful things. But in a simple sense, I think they call it European unification or whatever.

I think it's fair to say that like conquering, but outside of that, my point is this. Right now in the United States, we have states that allow for the kidnapping of children to be castrated and they are legally protected. You have states like California that are sanctuary states that are completely violating the constitution. So I'm sorry to say, as much as I can understand there is power in unity right

now what you have is not unity you have someone pinning you to the ground and beating you in the face but i'm a bit of a utilitarian if if california were excised the communist chinese party would land destroyers and we don't we don't we don't want to remove california to conquer it then they'd they'd appeal to the chinese for help for destroyer for for battleships submarines nuclear submarines like you don't if we split up we lose and i don't think we should split up i think the federal government needs to be purged of the corruption oh i agree with it and vivek talks fervently about it absolutely but does donald he he mentions that he's gonna but he never lays out a plan i've never seen a plan i will combine two statements from the day bill mitchell saying that trump is the big guy and desantis is the is the guy who

executes the vision well i think desantis has that ship has sailed but vivek is running the campaign desantis should have run so let trump be the big guy who oversees the thing and then let vivek be the the the surgeon who goes in and executes properly. And Ron DeSantis doesn't execute visions. The only thing that Ron DeSantis has executed is his campaign for president. That should be a t-shirt. I'm sorry, man. He's too slow. He's just not adaptable.

I got it. He's not. And also, it's a facade. He's a Manchurian candidate. And I'm just so sick and tired as a Floridian, as somebody who's actually, you know, impacted by these these negative policies as a result of him allowing for Florida to literally be invaded. I mean, he has allowed our state to be invaded at the expense of people who are already living there. And he doesn't care. I'm going to doesn't care.

I'm going to own this one. I feel personally slighted to the point where I'm sick of the DeSantis campaign. Yeah, I'm sick of these people. When I brought this up to Bill Mitchell, and he was a very nice guy. After we wrapped the show, we were all hanging out having sushi. We played poker. He got a full house. It was good fun. Even, you know, Lauren and him got along and were cordial and everything was great.

But in this debate, I said, I'm wondering why it is that I'm not this crazy diehard Trump where I'm not tweeting insults at people. I'm not why it is that I'm not I'm not this crazy diehard Trump or I'm not tweeting insults at people. I'm not attacking anybody. But when I have even the lightest criticism of Ron DeSantis, that's not even overt criticism. His actual campaign staff and his and the staff of his his governor's office insult me and attack me. And the immediate response was, oh, yeah, but, you know, Alex Brusewitz did this and Laura Loomer did this. And I'm like, OK, stop. I'm not them. I don't care. I'm asking you why it is that there's people like me

or Mike Cernovich and several others who have said that the DeSantis surrogates and campaign staff have been vicious towards people who should be allies. He didn't have an answer. He said, oh, please, I can't believe I'm hearing this, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay, fine. There's no answer. And this is all that we deserve for the people that were, a long time like a year ago me praising desantis and

now i'm just being attacked relentlessly i'm sorry i will own it i am personally insulted personally slighted and i am just sick of their campaign and the campaign staff yeah so you know what screw it on i mean desantis is done He's number, he already fell to number three in the predicted. That's because he's going to be number three at the end. Vivek's on an upward trend. So it is Trump and Vivek

is who we should be talking about. And Vivek is smart enough to know he's not going to, he's not going to defeat Goliath here. Well, but this is what's so bad about Ron DeSantis. You know, you just said it. Everybody knows that he's done.

But the sinister aspect of the Ron DeSantis campaign is that he knows that he has no chance. Okay, I call it the Ron disaster campaign because it's absolutely disastrous. OK, I call him Ron DeCon because he's an absolute con man. OK, you just put his I mean, the fact that he has D.E. as his initials. Right. You could just, you know, call him whatever you want. But the fact is, is that Ron DeSantis is only existing in this presidential race for the sake of our country and getting repusate rep uh and getting revenge rather and um and uh retribution against these goddamn communists okay it's gonna be one billion to 1.5 billion dollars and that's a lot of money that's a lot of money i'm looking

forward to it because our ad revenue is going to skyrocket they're taking they're taking that money and it's essentially going to guarantee biden another four years if they don't drop out and get behind donald trump that's what this is about they know they can't win let me ask you a question hypothetical i was thinking this in my head i don't i don't know any realistic scenario where trump is forcefully removed that makes someone feel good about voting for someone else like if you're a trump supporter and they lock trump up you're like no way i'm behind trump so there's got to be some kind of scenario for me to ask this question so i'll go with an absurd scenario for the sake of argument let's say that there is um a super you know, let's let's just say an evil globalist plants the the Genesis device in the base of New York City.

And the only one who can stop it is Trump. And Trump runs in and they're like, no, Trump, if you go in there, you'll be transported to another dimension and you'll be completely wiped from existence. And he's like, it's the only thing that I can do to save all the people of the world. And then he disrupts the device and he's gone trump just sacrificed he's gone there's no more trump he's not forced out there's no possible scenario to vote for him would you vote for vivek ramaswamy the only person that i'm voting for is president donald trump but that's why i asked it in the most absurd way possible trump sacrifices himself to save humanity and now he's gone forever and the only humanity

is gonna crumble because the only way that we're going she's not entertaining your games pool she's not putting up with your game you see how i carefully crafted the question i don't like hypotheticals you know i'm not really into all this like hopium copium bullshit that the republican party is trying to force feed voters right i'm a realist some people say that i'm that I'm negative, right? Some people say that I speak too badly about Republicans. Well, guess what? I like to call myself an equal opportunity hater, okay? Because I hate the Republican Party and I hate the Democrat Party. I hate all political parties, actually. And that's why I like Donald Trump, right? Because he's a disruptor. He's the sledgehammer to the uniparty that has awakened and has provided a voice to the forgotten man and forgotten woman of this country who have been completely screwed over by both political parties.

And that is the reason why, OK, Donald Trump is being attacked by the left and the right. The people that are doing the most damage right now to Donald Trump aren't these prosecutors and these radical judges. It's the Republicans in office, elected Republicans that are staying silent. I mean, where's Kevin McCarthy, right? Our Congress is on vacation right now when they should actually be in Washington, D.C., fighting against the weaponized government and taking a stand because the heist of the 2024 election is taking place before our eyes right now. And Republicans are,'d like to say asleep at the wheel but they're participating let's shift the election let's shift i want to shift i do want to talk about trump's sledgehammer strategy because i i feel like if we're all on a ship together the united states and the commander's like i'm gonna destroy

this corruption in our system and just start breaking the ship apart we all drown and die like but that's not what is what vision does he offer other than i'm gonna end all the bad stuff like let me tell me what you want to create so you say we're on a ship and he's taking a sledgehammer to it let me let me give you a better analogy we're on a ship and there's a bunch of little uh golems running around ripping the cables out of the wall and he's like i'm gonna put an end to this and he gets a little net and starts catching all the little goblins in a net and and then he's chucking them into a safe little boat where they'll be that's what he told me he was going to do in 2016 he said he was going to get rid of the swamp and he didn't and now he's like negotiating with a little guy now he's going to

destroy it i'm sorry i need a creationist let me try again in 2016 trump said we're going to get all the little gremlins off the boat and stop them from pulling out all the little golems and then but before we do and then bring some more golems no and then he said maybe the most effective way to deal with them is to fire some of them bring some of them in and convince them to stop doing this and then they all jumped on his back and started slashing at him he's like ah it's not working i've then they kicked him off and he's like okay i gotta come back and i just gotta catch all these little little golems and throw them out of here sometimes you need to have ultimate destruction in order to uh have a rebirth of something great, right? From what do they say?

It's from the ashes, the phoenix will rise, okay? Sometimes you need to have ultimate destruction and take a sledgehammer and burn a system to the ground if you want to create something better that's more hopeful, that isn't completely corrupted by this uniparty system. And so that's what I'm talking about, right? About burning the system down and taking a sledgehammer to it there's i think that it's so corrupt okay and it's been so taken over and it's been it's been so infiltrated by this cancerous rot okay that that it just needs to be completely taken down and destroyed and rebuilt from that's like that's like nuclear war talk no no ultimate destruction is not the words. I got a better one for you, Ian. Have you ever seen when they take a dirty coin and they dip it in, what do they do?

It's like Coca-Cola? No, an electrolysis, like water with electrical current. And then you watch all the grime just evaporate from it. And there is a beautiful, shiny silver coin beneath it that's how i view what trump like what i hope trump can accomplish is that there is this great country with a brilliant founding structure and documents i'm watching this show it's called the uncanny counter on netflix it is uh it's a korean show and the interesting thing is there's a scene where what caught my attention was when a detective is questioning a guy they say don't plead the fifth.

That's what the translation said. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait. South Korea has the fifth amendment or something akin to it. And so I looked up the, uh, I looked up the, the, like their version of the constitution and a lot of what South Korea has is very similar to what we have in the United States. And it made me think, I'm like, man, we do have a really, really great system that I'm glad to see other countries flourish in protecting civil rights and human rights. This vision.

I'm not a big fan of the nation building BS that's come out of it. But it is cool to see that this culture persisted. This system that was built is now covered in crap and tarnish. And it's got little leeches and barnacles stuck to it and we just got to take that beautiful silver coin that's covered in grime dip it in that little electrolysis water and let all the stuff rip from it and then pull up that shiny coin once again that is what but it's more complex there's lots of pieces and parts that have been added onto the machine that are unnecessary analogy and if you take one of them out the entire machine will break or some of them out hold on that that like i get what you're saying

about because what i what i'm hearing is you're you're you're saying we should be cautious about any kind of we have we have a process to how to change the government i don't want to see this is the process of the constitution donald trump tried donald Trump tried to use a redress of grievances. The legal process in the Constitution, having lawyers go out and ask, what is the legal process by which we deal with this? You had who was it? I'm forgetting his name. One of the guys was indicted, went to the alternate slate of electors and then explained to the press.

Don't worry. In the event a lawsuit prevails, we will have this group here on the documents. And they called it a conspiracy. One of the quote unquote acts of conspiracy is that Donald Trump reached out to Brian Kemp and said, look, we want to, I forgot exactly what he said. Something about finding the fraud through whatever legal means. And they said that was an illegal conspiracy. Yeah. So the point is, if there is a process by which to do this,

Donald Trump was working that process. Okay, sorry, Phil. So I interrupted you, Phil. But yeah, thank you. No, it's fine. It's just that I lost what I was saying. Okay, okay. But this is my point.

I'm just concerned about the destruction as a tactic. Is that? Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. I want more. More destruction of the United States? I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm a concerned about the destruction as a tactic. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. I want more. More destruction of the United States? I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm a patriotic guy.

When people say they want to destroy the United States, I start to get nervous. No, no, no. Stop, Ian. The system has been destroyed. So this is what we're saying is that you just said that there's a system, right? There's a political process. That process really doesn't exist anymore because as we've seen, the Uniparty has hijacked it and they don't respect the process. They don't respect the process.

They stole our election in 2020. The point that I've made. They stole our election. They interfered in our election. They colluded as state actors, right? and agents within the federal government and within uh uh within the within the biden campaign to to to illegally interfere in our elections and completely bastardize and assault that process so i understand where you're coming from but that's just that's just your vision of the process it doesn't exist anymore it's been destroyed and it's been corrupted in 1913 yeah it was co-opted by the international banking cartel it's it's been it's it's been hijacked and the

only way that we're going to get any type of process back is if we burn the system to the ground and what's the point that i'm making that is not burning the system to the ground i want to i've talked about this multiple times on on on the podcast here i want to take apart the bureaucracy and that is going to mean taking apart the government because the government is made of multiple different bureaucracies so i do want to take apart the government i want to get rid of hud i want to get rid of the d.o.t i want to get rid of a lot of cabinet level bureaucracies that means firing a lot of people putting people out of work like and and i'm i'm fully aware of what that means like there are too many and i feel like i'm saying this

the second time in a row but like there are too many people that talk about i want to make cuts or i want to you know reform or whatever and it never happens and every year the budget gets bigger and every year we go further into debt every year they print more money i want cuts let's just deep deep deep deep cuts let's just cross our fingers for trump ramaswamy 2024 i mean it'd be great because ramaswamy can go out and do the advocacy work in areas that trump may be weak on i've heard from a lot of people and this is earlier this is not today but several months ago run-of-the-mill regular old people when i'm out hanging out in you know dc or whatever liberal people saying they they don't like trump but man they cannot vote for joe biden and then i say what if the vp is desantis and

they're like well he could actually you know be a stabilizing force okay that might work i don't know people feel that way today i actually think ramaswamy is the right choice for vp if ramaswami would be willing to do it because he's clearly shown that he's very very good at communicating with people from this professional perspective like standpoint where trump is this like loud boisterous entertainment style character i think ramaswami could pick up and fill it ramaswami likes the camera too i mean let's not no no i'm not saying he doesn't donald trump i'm saying donald trump has a loud presence but you know ramaswami is not exactly a wallflower i'm not saying he's a wallflower he loves i'm saying ramaswami's persona is the suit wearing well let me answer that question for you and trump is the listen here tough guy i'm gonna tell you and so trump

has that loud you know powerful presence and for the people that don't like that ramaswami comes in in the suit with the tie and says don't worry i'll take care of this let me translate i'm the kind of guy man where if something burns me i'm not gonna touch it again and trump failed in 2016 that that whole four terms of drain the swamp and the covid lockdown that he set in motion with giving fauci all that power like i don't want to touch that again if if i don't i don't see an alternative candidate vivek ramaswamy oh for sure for sure and you know i i would love to see him win i just don't think that is possible i don't know i don't know i like it's a year left you know i mean who knows what can happen

or it's over a year still a year and you change them just want trump to complete his arc personally i don't care i just want whoever's gonna whoever is gonna go in and and injure the federal government whoever's gonna go in there and cut ramaswamy was saying that he's gonna cut 75 or he intends to cut 75 of the federal government by the end of his first term that sounds absolutely dreamy okay that sounds like really really really compelling stuff to me. So again, whoever's going to cut the most government, whoever's going to make the government the smallest out of all of them,

that's who I'm going for. That's who I'm with. I want to do a very hard segue because we talked a lot about politics. And let's just get into some cultural issues. Ladies and gentlemen, I have bad news. From TMZ. Kid Rock enjoys a bud light oh pussy so apparently uh kid rock was spotted at an event at the skydeck in nashville thursday night

at colt ford's show drinking bud light so a lot of people are saying it's probably the only beer they had or whatever but But I don't know. I guess the point of the story is this is a guy who opened fire on Bud Light, said FU, who now, I guess, doesn't care all that much and is back on drinking it. I mean, look, I haven't had a drink in many, many, many, many years now. It's like five, six years or whatever. So I'm not the one to talk smack but like after all of the stuff like right you make you go out of the way to make a video and stuff you'd think that he'd have the wits about him to to drink whiskey that night it's not like it's not

like bud light's the only option i mean maybe it was okay fine but like dude can you you could go a day without drinking to not get this uh this photo i just think that there's too much attention put on this stuff. You know, like I don't drink, so I don't really care either way, you know, because I'm not drinking beer regardless. But people get so worked up about this. And I don't know. I just find these stories to be a little silly at times because, okay, yeah, Dylan Mulvaney was put on a Bud Light can. And yeah, it's not exactly tasteful that Bud Light had an entire marketing campaign that was trying to force transgenderism on the public. But the obsessiveness, right,

of like the right on this issue, it's just, I just feel like these are distractions and there's a lot more important issues in our country. I understand you can boycott them, but the media, right, they'll fixate on it. They'll talk about it, but they're not talking about other things that matter. There's so many stories that go unreported every single day because especially the right, they have this obsessive nature and this obsessive quality and latching on to things. And and it's like, OK, we get it.

OK, it's kind of it's kind of tired now. We can move on to other things that are more important. We can move on to sorry. We can move on to other things that are also more we can move on to sorry we can move on to other things that are also more important i think this is the most important thing law as i've mentioned now you know 50 billion times ad nauseum to our audience laws are only enforced if a culture supports it so the reason why police refuse to enforce the law against these adult sex shows that they're inviting children to is because television, Walmart, Amazon, and all their libraries and all the small businesses are putting up the flag saying this is what we want.

So the cops are like, I know it's illegal, but we're not going to get involved because we'll be shunned and ostracized. I understand where you're coming from, but there's just there's just so much bullshit that's fed to people around these topics, for example. Right. And this is what I'm talking about with them wasting everybody's time. Everybody gets in a hissy fit about Bud Light and they say, okay, we're going to boycott. And then it's like all these viral videos of popular politicians coming out with videos, like Ron DeSantis, for example, right? He sat down with Benny Johnson, who had his camera crew come

with Ron DeSantis and was like, oh, so governor, what's your favorite beer? Oh, I really like a Guinness. I commercial marketing Guinness beer. And it was a teenager at a Christmas celebration. You can even pull up the commercial too so people can see it. Type in Guinness transgender commercial. And it's about a grandfather who sees, right? I think it's- I remember this one. I think it's his grandson.

And I guess the- The grandfather wears- The grandfather was like a secret crossdresser and then realized- That that J&B whiskey. Yeah, whatever it is. No, but it was no, but it was a Guinness. There was a Guinness. There was a J&B whiskey commercial.

No, but it was it was for Guinness. If you type it in Guinness, it actually had this issue as well. And so Ron DeSantis then goes on this whole tirade with Benny Johnson and he says, OK, well, I'm never going to drink a Bud Light ever again. And then two weeks later what does he do he has a fundraiser in Washington DC and one of the co-sponsors of this

fundraiser is a guy named Slater Bayless who is one of the lobbyists for Bud Light so just a clarification the J&B whiskey is I guess it's the parent company for Guinness yeah so so

so I guess it's the parent company for Guinness. Yeah. Right, right. And so he's saying... So roast on Guinness. Rag on Guinness. So my point is... No, but it goes to show you they're just not that educated. If you're going to do a boycott on something and you're going to take such a hard line stance

and you're going to be like, oh, I'm going to be against Bud Light because they're pushing transgenderism. Actually, you know, like have the intellectual motivation to go investigate whether these other companies are pushing this. It's embarrassing. And it just shows, you know, how we deserve better as voters and as the American people, we deserve better than politicians that

are going to try to win our votes by saying that they're going to boycott Bud Light because they're against transgenderism. And then they're going to have a closed door, slimy DC fundraiser with the lobbyists of the manufacturer of the child castration drugs and the manufacturers of all these Bud Light, for example. I hear the left making that same point, right? It's like, don't you know all these other brands do pride stuff and you guys, you silly conservatives are just focused on Bud Light. I don't like that argument. It's like the beast is too big to stop. So you might as well just give up now right yeah like you got it you can only do what you can't do they need to be principled and then they say and then they waste all this time focusing on these what's the point of people sitting down with ron desantis and

letting him bloviate about how he's against bud light when they're just gonna let him have a pass because he's having these fundraisers. And they're not even morally consistent. But I don't care about Rhonda Sanders on this issue. My point is, politics is downstream from culture. And the left has known this for years. That's why they heavily invest in Hollywood and music. It's why they ban, like, you got this big song right now,

Rich Men North of Richmond. The reason it's big is because regular people have the ability to share a song that resonates with them. What do we get from corporate mainstream media? This weird, woke, garbage nonsense. You get Kim Petras and you get Sam Smith doing Satanism on stage. Then you get a guy in Appalachia singing about how, how, how they're screwing over the little guy and regular people can push that, make it go viral. Culture is what drives politics. If you make something culturally unacceptable, it just can't happen. And I understand that. I understand that. I understand the point that you're trying to make. But what I'm saying is that in order, it's not exactly culturally unacceptable because they're

still engaging in it behind closed doors. Yeah, they lost $400 million. So you actually have to stick to it. And we just have lazy politicians and lazy people in our society that say, oh, well, you know, I'm just going to have a closed door fundraiser. I'm going to have a Bud Light. They don't even stick with it. And then we end up having egg on our face. And it's just it's embarrassing. That's why we call out Kid Rock for hypocrisy.

Some people are saying it's a Pepsi can. Now, I checked. Pepsi cans have vertical barcodes. I looked. That looks like a Bud Light can. I'm going to say I can't really tell what that can is. Fine. Fair point.

But Bud Light has lost $400 million. They've lost around 30. Anheuser, A.B. and Bev has lost around 30%, I think, their stock. It took a major hit. AB InBev was forced to sell off like eight different craft beers. They have been hit so hard by this. It is to the point now where you've got corporations trying to pull back from all this crazy leftist garbage. Target, for instance, for the first time in six years, missed their quarterly and lost money you've got uh disney now facing a major backlash netflix disney and a bunch of

these these streaming channels lost subscribers and it's because they keep trying to push this insane woke leftism yeah and i understand i i support i support the boycotts but i think that at the end of the day right there's too many people who are given a free pass right especially politicians who like to go on fox news and have their 30 second talking points about these issues and it's just something and fair point i mean these are some of the loudest people about it but then they're doing it themselves the politicians are grifters who are going to be like what's popular and just try and pretend that they're going to be on board with it like desantis supportingantis supporting Guinness after the fact,

even though Guinness was getting criticized for the same thing. Well, and Bud Light also. And I'm here to talk about Ron DeSantis, right? Which is why I brought up Ron DeSantis and Bud Light. But yeah, I wanted to make people aware of that. That's how you're going to capture Gen Z too, is talking about this cultural stuff, right? I mean, that's what the kids care about.

They don't care about the nitty gritty and how deep these issues go. They like the funny picture of Kid Rock holding a Bud Light after he just posted a video a few months earlier. Oh, yeah. We got to play the game. Young people actually care about issues, you know, like there's a lot of young people that would really like to be able to have families and own a home. And they're finding it unaffordable right now to own a home in America. And the only candidate that is actually talking about Generation Z and millennials being able to have affordable homes and be able to have affordable housing is Donald Trump. He's

the only one. He's the only one who's actually talking about it and talking about his plan for what does he call it? Freedom cities, I believe. Right. Isn't that what he calls it, Tim? His freedom cities so that young people in America can also experience the American dream. I don't I don't I don't like this idea that, oh, it's just young people consumed with TikTok and culture. There's a lot of young people that care about the economy, that care about the fact that by 2045, do you know that Generation Z is the last generation in this country that's going to be majority white? We're not going to have a majority white America anymore.

So what I'm saying is that we are, you know, we are being, what is, what is, what is the race that people have to do with? Well, what I'm talking about is that we're, we're being replaced, right? So people have talked about replacement, replacement theory, and they've talked about the fact that we've, we've been invaded. We've had an immigration invasion into our country that is changing our culture. So you're saying that politics is downstream from culture, but nobody seems to care about the fact that immigration is fundamentally transforming

the traditional culture of our country. And there's young people that care about that. Not all young people. There's young people that are coming to the U.S. and really conservative. We've lost our culture. Right, so the racial component I don't see as mattering. No, but I'm just using that statistic because that was a news report that came out the other

day. There was a study out that said that Generation Z is going to be the last generation in which America, if you look at the census right now, we're currently a majority white country because of the mass migration and all of the immigration into our country. And so if you're making the argument that politics is downstream from culture well what's culture if we're not even going to have the same thing well i don't care about that statistic well i i think that i think that i think that there's i just know that there's a lot of people in generation z that are focused on topics like immigration and the fact that we're being invaded it is important rapid uncontrolled immigration can distort a country's culture and then twist and Generation Z that are focused on topics like immigration and the fact that we're being invaded.

It is important. Rapid, uncontrolled immigration can distort a country's culture and then twist its laws. So we do have to be careful about that. I agree with you, though. I don't think that like where your great grandfather lived matters about your culture, like does. But no, no, I'm saying a majority white. I'm talking about the fact that, you know, like America, right from from its inception. Right. I'm america as a white christian country that is originally like what our country was and so it's not i don't just because the people that it's it's not supposed to be interpreted negatively these are facts right these are facts people get so triggered when you say majority here's what i love i i would i don't know why none. About the transformation of our country. That doesn't matter to me. I don't care if this country is white, black, Asian, Latino, mixed, whatever, so long as

the founding fathers' ideals, the visions, the constitution are upheld. Yeah. And so I can look to any number of the overwhelming majority of these white liberals, half of – this is the funniest thing about that statistic. It's like half of white people in this country are the Marxists and the communists that are causing all the problems that have the weirdest racial views on everything. But I would just put it this way. That statistic means so little to me. I would gladly, all of these communists, neo-Marxist, white liberal, left, whatever, if they were like, we're going to go to Venezuelauela i'd be like no wait don't and if all of the venezuelans who are like we hate living under communism and we dream for america came instead i'd be like oh no we're not a white majority country anymore we have a whole bunch of freedom loving libertarian minded people who love the founding fathers that is so much better than white communists like when people used to come to this country right they'd come from all

different walks of life but you'd be united under the American, you're talking about the American dream. That was the culture, right? You work hard and you're going to reap the benefits. Now it's just, we've lost that. So now you have all these cultures kind of clashing. Yeah. I'm just trying to make the point that, you know, a lot of times people think, oh, you know, all the, all the generation Z cares about is pop culture when really what we should be focused on when we talk about culture is our our culture as a country right and and there's so much negativity around those terms like nationalism for example and we've lost so much pride in our country the use of this country has been taught a lot of them right they're being indoctrinated to hate america to uh to embrace marxist and communist ideology and so when we talk talk about politics being downstream from culture,

we need to reclaim our national culture, our national identity. And that's not going to be done by boycotting things like Bud Light. That's going to be done by securing our border and electing people like Donald Trump that are going to put America first. That too, that too.

I'm just saying like these cultural battles politics is downstream from culture let's not allow hollywood to come out and say orange man bet disney ran commercials this is the weirdest thing they ran disney the disney channel had anti-trump commercials it's like for children we know what they're doing they're trying to indoctrinate kids so the cultural cultural battle is extremely important, making sure the next generation, as you say, they care about this stuff. So I'm not saying like Bud Light is the only thing we should focus on. I'm saying cultural battles in general matter. Yeah.

And we want to make sure that, look, man, I was hanging out with family and my I was my cousins and their kids. And they were saying, oh, you know, their teenage daughter doesn't care about news and politics. You're not going to get her to care and bother with it. And I was like, oh, I can explain it to her so she'll understand. And then I said, okay, you don't care about news, right? And she's like, no.

And I was like, is there, is there, it's like president, politics, Congress. Like, no, I don't care about that stuff. And I said, okay, is there, is there someone in your school you don't like? She's like, yeah. And I was like, imagine if they were put in charge of you and they could make all the rules for you and tell you what to do. And she went, no. And I was like, if they were put in charge of you and they could make all the rules for you and tell you what to do and she went no and i was like okay that's politics see in high school your politics is very small once you graduate now all of a sudden you're like wait that guy is making the rules for me no way no what what matters to you in your world is what surrounds you so i was like you'll you'll get into news but it's basically like all the drama you're

going through in high school imagine it was on tv and that's what politics and news is for adults. I thought you made a good point earlier, Laura, about boycotts and laziness people. I think it's important that if you're going to boycott a product that you find out the company that makes it, find out the company that owns them, and then boycott all of that product. Yeah, and that's all I'm trying to say is that you see a lot of this oftentimes where people say, oh, it's like a fad, right? It's in the moment, and people say, yeah, I'm going to boycott this, but they don't actually know what that means. Like, do you know who actually owns the company? Right. It's like people saying, oh, I'm going to boycott PayPal. But then they're like, oh, OK, can I can use some of your Venmo? Well, do you know that PayPal owns Venmo? Right. Right. So there's just so much

intellectual laziness amongst our our our community and our population and it's embarrassing right it's embarrassing when you see people talking about this and then you know they don't even know what they're talking about cash app is the way to go if you want to boycott paypal well i'm banned on cash app so i boycott all of them can you have a don't you didn't you have your uh bitcoin address uh messed with or something no that wasn't me that was somebody else i had um i had my venmo shut down i had my paymo shut down. I had my PayPal shut down. I was banned on Cash App, even though I had never even used Cash App. I just had downloaded it. And when I went to use it for the first time, it said that I had been

suspended. I'm banned on GoFundMe, but that's my point, right? Let's talk about big tech. So we have this other big story that's going on right now. Everyone's losing their minds over on X. Elon Musk announces plan to remove the block feature on X in violation of Apple and Google Play Store guidelines. I genuinely do not understand why Elon Musk would want to remove the block feature. He says block is going to be deleted as a feature except for DMs. He says it makes no sense. I don't know. It makes a lot of sense.

What do you guys, what do you guys what do you like why not just why not just mute no because block stops someone from basically stalking you but then they just make a fake account and stalk you then i'll block that one too but then they just make another one and i'll block that one they make 50 more and you're busy but then that makes so much time and i'll block them every single time i think it's better to mute someone and they don't know they're muted so they can scream out of the void but see there are prominent high profile people with millions of followers who don't make fake accounts and their job exists to stalk your twitter take your tweets out of context and insult you and smear you and make money off it i'm gonna make it harder for them by blocking them so now they'll have to make a fake account

but many of them do not do it someone suggested if the mute button also made it so they can't post or reply to any of your stuff that's a block no just a lot yeah but they could still view your stuff right i can i can open anyone's twitter page in a private tab and see their profile they've blocked me right but you have to seek it out blocking someone makes it so that they you don't appear in their feed anymore and out of sight out of mind it helps tremendously there's another thing you can do it's a forced unfollow where you go to the person who's annoying and you block and unblock right away. What this does is if these people are stalking and like just being annoying or like, I try to use this word lightly, harassing. Harassing to varying degrees, it's hard to on the internet, but there's a point where you can get to

it if they're posting your address. And I've had people post photos of my house and address and things like that. If I block them, they'll go nuts. They'll make a fake account and then they'll start using that account to bother me again. So one thing you can do is block and unblock really quick. They're no longer following you. And now your posts won't appear in their feed and they might slowly forget about you. There's a couple of ways you can do it. But more importantly, let's just put it this way.

There are prominent high profile nonprofit organizations who have staff who don't run sock puppet accounts. And if you block them, they stop talking about you. That's why blocking works. There's other things, too. I mean, some people do not. If you're telling me they might make a fake profile and stalk me and harass me anyway, OK, well, I'll make it harder for them. At least give me some options.

It's like, don't say, well, they're going to're gonna come they're gonna break in your house anyways just open your windows it's like no i'll lock my windows sure they can smash the window and climb in but at least make it harder for them but it's kind of like blocking someone's like making them wear a blindfold so they can't see you like it's like yeah but it's not really it doesn't because bro it works if your goal is to make it so someone can't see your social media you can't do it they can always make a new account. And it works. The guys who work at Media Matters don't make fake accounts.

That's it. There's no way to know that. Okay, bro. Yes, there is. And I don't want to start talking about private security stuff beyond this, but you are completely wrong blocking matters. It is one of the first things we do in a security assessment when you're dealing with people swatting and doxing and sending bomb threats the first thing you do is you make it harder for them to interact with you and your content and mute they can't call does not do that then they can't every time they try and call your number to dock or to call a bomb threat or whatever it just goes

into the void it never it never picks up the point is you want them you want to be harder for them to see you that's it you want to reduce visibility it is not perfect but it is the first action you take when dealing with stalking and harassment also it it prevents them from like interacting with your tweets and your followers and your followers and posting porn and other that kind of stuff matters about like how they can interact with your account is different when it's a block versus and and some of these accounts have 50,000 followers and they don't run sock puppets their goal is with their account to harass you to gain followers if they can no longer do that they'll target someone else that's why adding to the mute function that they can't post on your stuff or retweet your stuff. That's a block.

It's just, no, but they can still see your stuff. And they still can right now. I personally think that if they're thinking of like actually removing the block feature, then they should make it a policy that you're not allowed to have an anonymous account because I'm in favor of keeping the block. I agree with you as somebody who

has been harassed online and has had stalkers and people you know, people be really, you know, weird online. You sometimes have to block them, right? Because people get obsessive. Like there are stalkers that, you know, latch on to you. And sometimes for your own safety, as Tim said, you have to block them because it becomes overbearing. They start posting. They reply to your posts.

Yeah. With pictures of your house. And it's also it's also a way like they can't they can't say, oh, bullying is against our terms of service. You can't have people saying that bullying is not acceptable online, but then also say, okay, you're not allowed to block somebody. You have a right to decide what you don't want to see. I don't personally think that people should be deplatformed. I don't think that we should be banning people.

But every single person should have the right to filter what they see. And if they want to block somebody, just like you can block someone on your phone, you should be able to block them. You have the right to limit at who has access to you. Yeah, you're not silencing. You have the right to say you don't have I don't want you interacting with me or anything that I am doing. You have that right in reality, like in the physical world, you can leave someone's presence and then you just don't go where they are and if they show up you leave or you might have to call the cops or whatever um but you have the right to say that there's one thing i just saw linda yaccarino just uh tweeted a few minutes ago our users safety on x is our number one priority

and we're building something better than the current state of block and mute please keep the feedback coming this was in relent in response just like just like just like twitter now has uh content creators right all right well we should send linda this clip so she can listen to us because these are good things um yeah i think something could be better than block and mute i've always found block to be kind of ridiculous because people can just make fake accounts anyway you can't it's like i can't make you shut your eyes when you're looking at me that's up to you so i can ask you to leave i can close my ears off but i can't shut your mouth phil like i can't do that reply guys there are people on twitter who are reply guys they have uh there's one guy with 120,000 followers only because he he refreshes your page waits for a new tweet, and then immediately posts something gross or offensive or insulting,

if you block them, they can't do that anymore. They won't make a new account because they're trying to build followers on their current account. So blocking works. More importantly, there are people who do this and they will also post threats, photos of family members, private information. You block them, they can't anymore there's a there's a bunch of reasons why blocking is important yeah we need an amalgamation of the of the of the abilities because i don't when i block someone i can still see them i don't want to see those people i want to mute them i don't ever want to think about that when you block someone twitter stops showing you everything from not always that's the fact it'll say this user has been muted or blocked i'm like i don't i know that's so don't show me that crap i don't want to know that they're

posting like erase them from my field of view if you block someone and then someone else quote tweets them and says something it'll say this tweet is unavailable and then you can choose to go to the person's profile and view the tweet by clicking view tweet but they limit what you see giving you the option i also have a policy of anyone who blocks me that i see i block back because then they're going to play that game where they don't want you to be able to read what they're saying about you but they're going to go to your tweets and start doing the same like doing the inverse i personally love mute um something that minds we didn't have a mute function in the beginning i don't know if it has a mute function right now it's got a block function but block is like it's not that i don't want you to know what

i'm up to i just don't want to listen to you are you guys uh familiar you're familiar with steam i know tim and i are you guys familiar with steam're familiar with Steam. I know Tim and Ian. Are you guys familiar with Steam? Yep. So it's just a, yeah, it's like a video game software on your computer. I don't know about it. If you're caught cheating, it'll ban your computer. So it doesn't matter if you make a new account.

It knows you're logging in from the same piece of hardware and you will never be able to log into that game again and play. Yeah. That's my question for you guys. Would you guys be in favor of like a hardware ban for like so you'd be able to block ian if he's being gross nope on a hardware ban because uh it can you can easily capture the the wrong person with the hardware ban oh yeah yeah i don't like someone like imagine someone going on a library computer so this actually happened with a lot of uh a lot

of vpns and stuff the whole network gets banned because one person uses a certain router or whatever, and then that IP is banned instantly. A lot of these networks auto-ban VPN IPs anyway. I think banning people is a failure of a concept. You should be banning accounts if the account violates terms,

and then if they make a new account, it's fair game. If you want to put in your terms that someone that's been banned can't make a new account, I think that's dirty because people change and become better people. And that's the idea is we want to make each other better. I don't think you should be banned for anything unless you're

inciting violence. I just think that the terms of service need to be identical to the United States Constitution. Awful, but awful. You'd love mine. You have Linda Iaccarino that just came out and basically said as a way to to kind of soften the blow, the reality check that, hey, guys, just kidding. You know, they all lied to you when they said that the new ownership of Twitter or X, as they want to call it, is now pro free speech. It's not OK because they're creating these advertiser block lists. But instead of actually saying, hey, we're going to ban people that we don't like, they're going to say, hey, if you're a content creator, you can buy Twitter blue and then you can be a content creator and you're going to get paid.

Except if you're lawful or awful, we're going to put you on a blacklist. And that's what they just said that they're going to do at Twitter. So it's basically the same censorship regime that we saw at Twitter 1.0. But they're trying to play good cop, bad cop by putting the blame on the advertisers. So instead of it being, oh, Elon Musk or Linda Yaccarino are censoring me, it's now, oh, well, sorry, you're on our advertiser block list. You have to take it up with the advertisers. I kind of take it.

But ultimately, they're the ones that created that advertiser block list. Let's talk about this. I did just get paid on Twitter. I got paid $4,377. I had a total in the past 28 days of 241 million impressions. And the reason I disclose all of this to you is because there are a lot of

people with substantially less impressions who got paid more and people with more impressions who got paid substantially less. Have you disclosed how much you got? You did. You tweeted it, right? Yeah. So I need to check and see because I don't think you can check your impressions on your phone you have to be on your computer to check it i think so i need to see what the impressions were but i know they're

going to be over 100 million but i have at least over 150 million impressions every single month and i just got paid today and i only got paid 190 dollars and 22 cents and so if you go if you open a browser and log in and go to analytics.twitter.com it'll show you right away what your impressions are but you gotta log in on the browser and do desktop site or whatever yeah but uh i i can say uh without i'm not going to reveal anyone's identity but we know i know someone who received a couple hundred dollars with only a few thousand followers and you've got how many half a million half a million and every single week i post multiple videos almost

exclusively on twitter now because i don't really i don't i've never been monetized on youtube and for some reason my rumble channel no matter how much i post it just doesn't let me grow my channel it's very strange and so i could get like 2 000 views on rumble and youtube but then i'll get a million or five million views on a you on a video that I upload to Twitter. And I consistently get hundreds of thousands of impressions on all of my tweets. All of my tweets go super viral and people can see from these videos they have millions of views. But even then, I'm getting paid the same amount of money as people who have literally 70, I don't know, like 570 followers. I saw one person that had 2,000 followers and they said that they got paid

four thousand dollars you were this is the this is the crazy thing apparently they're saying this payment was just for the past 10 days i don't and there are there are people any sense yeah that's reportedly it's for the past 10 days and there are people who got paid like 10 grand you found with ian miles chong's numbers were off the hook he tweeted it out we're still gray as his twitter account still gray he posted three payments over the last i don't know four some four payments over the last month or something and they were all pretty impressive it was like six thousand ten yeah but i want to know how is it that ian ian miles chong if you look at those payments one of them was like seven thousand one of them was thirteen thousand i believe and the other one was 16 000 because i tweeted about it before coming on tonight and i said how is it that he has about two he has about 200 000

followers more than i have okay and he's getting paid you know it is he put three hours ago yeah so if you look at it right oh there it is he's got about 720 000 i don't know you have to see the exact number but over 700 000 followers and he. And he gets paid $7,302 this month. I think they have 20 grand. He made 20 grand. I have half a million and I get paid $190 and 22 cents. I mean, I should at least be,

you know, in the 1000, 2000, maybe even 3000 range. It's not like that's that much of a difference. It's possible that the ads are weighted differently on YouTube. I know different creators would get different revenue models. It was all proprietary.

Like they'd be like this guy. We really like people. Yeah. I mean, they actually said they're putting you on the lawful, but awful. But how do you know that? You know, I find I find Linda Yaccarino to be lawful, but awful. I can't stand her. I don't like the fact that she's a world economic foreign puppet.

I don't like the fact that she pushed the vaccine. I don't like the fact that she's a leftist who came from corporate media. I don't like that. So if I were in a position of power like that someday, maybe she'll end up on a demonetization list, right? Lawful but awful is subjective. There are people that love me. There are people that think I'm awful, just like there's people that love her and people who think she's awful. And I think it's really ridiculous that we're allowing one person to decide what is lawful but awful. It's discriminatory.

I don't think it should be one person. I agree. But there are situations where lawful things should be censored, in my opinion, as a social media admin, because no censorship is chaos. Like you'll have blown open body parts

when you open your news feed. Yeah, stuff like that. That's well, child abuse is illegal, but like viewing a blown open body is legal. But you don't want that on your website when everyone lands on your homepage because no one will come. So you need to censor and create just terms.

We're not talking about porn or, you know, dead bodies on the timeline. We're talking about, they're saying what's lawful and awful is I'm not posting anything graphic or nasty. I'm not violating terms of service. I'm exposing Ron DeSantis every single day. And I guess, you know, given the fact that maybe Elon Musk has come out and said that he supports Ron DeSantis, you know, he allowed for him to have

his kickoff on Twitter. Maybe that's why I'm being demonetized, right? Who knows? But I think that politics are coming into play because I will say that everybody that messaged me today who has a large account on Twitter, who received a couple hundred dollars or fifty dollars when people that have a quarter of their following receive thousands of dollars we all have one thing in common you know what that is well actually it's two things but it's really one thing if you encompass it all together we're all Trump supporters and we're all outspoken critics of Ron DeSantis and I find it to be really interesting that the thing that everybody who received a large payout has in common, they're all outspoken supporters of Ron DeSantis. It's just strange.

I think it's bizarre. And maybe someone should investigate. Is Ian Miles trying to destroy it? Yeah, he's a DeSantis guy. When I think about social media censorship, I don't like telling corporations what they can and can't do when it comes to their own company and their own data sources. So I think we should make them free their software code, let other people spin up versions of x that will interoperate and then they can compete terms of service so like if my version of x is better than elon's terms and i don't ban people like you or don't demonetize people like you will come use the service and

i'll get people will come to my terms because my terms are better because otherwise you're just smashing a hammer down on corporation like did you just say i don't like telling companies what to do that's why we got to make sure that they yeah using we make them open up their their i don't like just their code systematically using the government to decide what a corporate how a corporation has to run its business but you want to make them open up i'm open to antitrust situations where monopolies need to be broken up and you can't split this company apart like Instagram, Facebook, Facebook Messenger. If you made those

three separate companies, Zuckerberg would still own them all. Yeah, but hold on. Do you think that do you consider Twitter like would Twitter need an antitrust situation? Yeah, it's monopolistic. But there's Gab, there's Parler, there's what's the other one?

There's Truth. Well, mine isn't. Shout out to Truth Social. Mine isn't like Twitter. I'm talking about that are Twitter kind of thing. Blue Sky. Threads. There's like five things that are, well, Mastodon's different.

But even so, that's like five competitors for Twitter. That, like Twitter is not in any way a monopoly because there are competitors. Just because the competitors don't, you know, don't get the same kind of traffic. They definitely are the state actors. I mean, look, we saw,

look, Section 230 definitely needs to be repealed and these companies need to be held accountable. I have an active RICO lawsuit right now against these companies. Well, no, they're not, they're not,

they've transcended the role of a private company. They are essentially state actors we saw during the congressional hearing that they're working you shouldn't pull back to 30 because they're called jira jira you know jira is the third party project management software yeah they're using this to communicate with the doj and dhs and fbi and cia that's all fine that doesn't mean you that doesn't mean you repeal all of 230. Maybe these companies don't get 230 protection, fine, but you don't repeal 230 because there are companies

that need to be treated differently under the law. Well, I think it's important for people to understand that Section 230 was also created before these social media companies ever existed. And so it's really become a Frankenstein Frankenstein You know, Frankenstein law I guess you could say That has turned into a monster And these companies, maybe their status needs to be looked at

Or whatever, that's totally fine I have no issue with that, but you don't repeal All of 230 because of that In answer to your question, Phil, about is it a monopoly I defer to daily unique users And I would say you've got to pick a number at some point 500 million daily unique views or something like strongly disagree because there's there's multiple options that people can go to just because twitter's the most successful

doesn't mean that there aren't other options for people to go to so like and and look i get it they're like google's like most of the internet i I get it. But like all my stuff runs, runs on brave, like, and, and I don't use the Google stuff. So it's just, I have a real problem with saying, Hey, you know, we don't want to force companies to do stuff, but then being like, but we're going to go in there and we're going to make them open up their code for other people to, to go ahead and share and, and make it public. And then we're going to force them to do this and force them to do that. And especially because it sounds to me like you're looking to or you're talking about Twitter as a monopoly because of Twitter's success, not because of

some kind of barrier to entry that Twitter and the government have erected to other companies. Other companies can start websites there are multiple twitter competitors none of them haven't been able to do what twitter's done fair enough but that doesn't mean that that the government needs to to do something about twitter because other companies haven't been able to emulate their success you know you might be right about twitter i don't know the numbers on the back end but you brought up google alphabet now that's one that i want to focus a little more um confidently on that it's a monopoly that it it runs ad networks it runs search engines they have art like they own eight companies i mean alphabet owns like things in all medical industry these things so like google's maybe twitter's still still too small maybe x is

too small to be considered monopolistic force but i mean i find google to be kind of monopolistic right now my phone is running on freaking android google like i mean i don't i don't i i get wary about stuff i get wary about people or about the idea of the government getting involved just because a company is big and a lot of people think that because a company's big that must mean that they had some kind of, you know, some kind of, either there's been a barrier to entry to other competitors in the marketplace or something like that. And I don't think the government should just be like, okay, well, we're going to stick our nose in. There's a lot of different, like you said, you mentioned your Google phone. I use an Apple phone. App stores. So Google and Apple have a monopoly on the app stores right now. If you don't play by their rules and you want to get your app on there,

you can't. They won't let you load your app into their store. That's a monopoly. Didn't Tim, wasn't the Timcast app available from the website for a while first?

It still is. Mine's went through hell trying to do it. Good news. The apps are currently in review and should be up in a week. So if you don't, they have like rules.

Like some people said removing a block feature from Twitter or X would make it so that it can't be uploaded into the store now and that's a monopoly that's a decision by alphabet if twitter can even exist in the network so like at some point i mean at some point we need to seize control of these corporations or they will seize control of us so i'll just say uh one thing real quick too for those that are wondering the reason i'm posting about the metrics

and the money is because as a new feature on Twitter, I think it's important people understand how much work you have to do, how much you get paid for that work, what kind of work gets money. And so I had 243 million impressions in the last 28 days. I got paid $4,377. X staff told me this would be actually July, I think half of July, because everyone got paid on August 8th and I didn't. They said all of that money I think it paid would be included in the next payout. So this 400. So it should it should follow through that 243 million impressions because we're looking about it makes sense. It's about 28 days is four thousand three hundred seventy seven dollars.

A lot of people are saying that smaller channels, smaller Twitter accounts that get less views are getting substantially more money. And that's because of interactivity. So the Krasensteins get paid way more money because their tweets encourage debate, which means more people. It doesn't matter how many impressions you have. If people see me post something silly or stupid, a million and they see a million views,

that doesn't mean they clicked the tweet and then saw an ad beneath it that's where you make money so for people who are on twitter and wondering why you're not getting paid you make a tweet where you say hey guys what do you think about you know donald trump doing a backflip that's going to generate more money with a hundred with a hundred thousand impressions than me posting a photo of trump literally backflipping and getting 10 million views you know what's so gross is when I'm going on Twitter, it'll be a post that'll say, you walk into the room, she's looking at you like this with an ice cream cone in your hand. What do you do?

It's just such engagement farming trash. I'm so sick. Ever since they monetized like two months ago, it's this junk crap. I will say it's a little bit of a bait and switch business practice. First, it's like, okay, guys, you have to you have to have what was it? Five million impressions per month and and post a certain amount of times. What was it? Twenty, twenty.

You have to have at least like 20 tweets. You remember, Tim, what it was? Twenty tweets per month, I think, or twenty tweets per week. Five million. But my point is, is like first it's oh, OK, it's impression based. Now, all of a sudden, after they used it as a marketing gimmick to get all these people to sign up, like, oh, wow, I too can make $10,000 a month if I just decide to become a professional Twitter poster.

Now, all of a sudden, it's, oh, just kidding, guys. It's not Twitter impressions, but it's engagement within your post. It's just really dirty, in my opinion, because, you know, it's not what they told us. And I look at some of these posts. I post a lot more. I get a lot of engagement. I get I'm a very controversial person. If you couldn't notice or you couldn't tell already. And the fact of the matter is there's always people in my comments debating

and talking and I'm trending on Twitter multiple times a week. And the fact that I can get that much engagement, I can trend on Twitter five times in one month and i'm getting paid 190 and 22 cents i don't think so i think that there's a political bias here and i think that they need to provide more transparency uh with regards to how this algorithm is run and how their lawful but awful uh blacklist is being operated we're gonna go to super chats if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, share it on Twitter. Here's what you do. Take the URL,

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And you'll help, you'll help the show. Not if you're a Trump supporter though. Not if it, yeah, you know, you actually have to put, Hey,

they're wrong about DeSantis. Do you agree? You also got to sit at a Skype account. You have No, you actually have to put, hey, they're wrong about DeSantis. Do you agree? You also got to sit at your Stripe account. You have to praise DeSantis. And then, yeah, but if you're a Trump supporter and you tweet it, trust me, you're not going to get paid. You get less money. I think you need to be premium, meaning you need to be $8 a month for blue.

And then you need to sign up your Stripe account and hook it all up before you even start to get paid. Let's read. Noah Sanders says, first today, baby. Congratulations. Tim, don't forget the chicken auction. I hope to get an invitation. Also, since you don't have an after show on Friday nights,

how about an after show for the Culture War podcast? Well, we are looking at ways to create a member premium thing for the Culture War. The reason we do it on Friday mornings, because that's the only time we have to do it. Friday nights, the plan has always been to do one of two things. Live jam session after the show which we used to do and we were building this new space for that purpose and it's just was supposed to be done two years ago so uh we and i were talking we may just actually

clean up the the pre the former culture war space for music performances and then just get that audio set up because i don't know how long the new studio is going to take to get done but the other thing we're planning is poker with the boys which is the live stream poker show we uh we've been we've been talking to a couple people about being the regulars and the hosts for the show and then getting regular players the show is not a poker show it is a table talk goofing off show about a variety of issues while people play poker for fun so if you're not a poker person it's really just having comedians hang out with you know people like you know we'll have alex jones sitting down playing a game and everyone's kind of talking the challenge we have with that is it's illegal to do everywhere and it's so stupid so we got to figure that one out but uh that's the plan for friday nights we'll see what happens all right keaton carpenter says tim share

the show with your friends tim never post the link on his own twitter uh i do sometimes and i did today sometimes i do sometimes i don't but uh but typically rarely and because we're doing the show you know i'm not your buddy guy says now is the time to circle the wagons around trump he must show these communists we will not tolerate this a cabal should never be able to dictate who can or cannot be elected in any country agreed all right i'm not your buddy guy continue says i was deeply disappointed in ben shapiro in having a very short-term outlook on this saying the indictments are the reason to drop trump if they can do it once they'll do it again that is a very very short-term way of thinking. And it's and it's I don't know, myopic. I don't know why people are surprised, though. I

mean, look, Ben Shapiro has a notorious never Trumper. I don't know why people even pay attention to him. His voice is so grating. It makes my ears want to bleed. And the thing about Ben Shapiro is that he's an he's an original never Trumper. People need to remember in 2016, he fabricated allegations of assault with Michelle Fields when he was working at Breitbart against Corey Lewandowski, who was the campaign manager for Donald Trump. OK, and then when the video came out, it showed that they actually he actually didn't assault Michelle. And Ben had egg on his face and he has continued to be aggressively anti-Trump. So I don't think people really should be taking him seriously on any of those.

If anything, the indictments make me lean more towards Trump because we can't allow this. Well, Ben Shapiro has also received over $110,000 in payments as I posted on my Twitter the other day from Ron DeSantis. If you look at the financial reports. They bought a newsletter thing, right? Is that what they did? Whatever they want to say, it's still a conflict of interest because he has a financial relationship, whether it's pre-existing or current,

that's a conflict of interest that he should be disclosing, which he has never publicly disclosed to his audience. I could be wrong, but I think what it is, the DeSantis campaign bought like a newsletter advertising thing. They say that it was list rentals, but I don't know. I've rented lists before and you don't get checks that big. I mean, that's just. Well, I mean, the Daily Wire's got a big list.

I got a big list too. Yeah. I got a massive list. And I'll tell you right now, those aren't the type of payments that you get for list rentals. And a lot of times, I'm just saying that that's the same exact thing. You can criticize the ad sales. That's the same thing that the Babylon Bee said when they got, you know,

called out for having their ties with Ron DeSantis. But regardless, he has a history. I think people just need to investigate. Right. Like I do and look into the backgrounds of these people and you won't be so surprised if you really see their past comments. I like this one. K2 Water says, Tim, for the earlier segment today, rioters and looters are different races but i would bet a majority of them vote democrat if civil war broke from riots it would still be left wing versus right wing

yeah so the the point that i was making i did a segment i record i record segments extra bonus segments throughout the week and then put them all put with the extra ones on friday was that you get a lot of people who will post these riots and it's a bunch of like black teenagers and then i'm like yeah but come on post the antifa rights all. And then I'm like, yeah, but come on, post the Antifa rights, all white people. And I'm like, my point is like it's not the racial component as K2 water nails. It's a bunch of Democrats like it's leftist Democrat voters that are doing this. It's not like it's not a bunch of conservatives going around smashing cars and looting Nordstrom. They're not voting Republican because Republicans like we will arrest these people. The Democrats like we'll let them go. Gee, I wonder who they're voting for. because Republicans are like, we will arrest these people. And the Democrats are like, we'll let them go.

Gee, I wonder who they're voting for. Let's grab some more. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Laura, I did an X poll from the culture war about who won the debate. You won with 69% with an astounding 26%

in second place was loud noises. So, so Bill got what, like two or three? Yeah, respect for, to bill for coming on the show uh at the very least because a lot of the desantis people just won't come on or can't i saw about 40 minutes of it and you guys all were making good points i highly recommend checking it out it was fun it was very fun bill was a really good sport about being called and he okay he said that he he was called an aging lesbian or he looked like one

no he said that alex brucewitz had called him uh had said that he looked like an aging lesbian and he was complaining and trying to say oh trump supporters are so mean you know all this victim stuff that the desantis people love doing and engaging in as if they're not online attacking attacking trump supporters and saying oh donald trump should be in prison and you know saying that alex brucewitz took the clip of him just saying, I look like and ran it. Michael Malice has already retweeted it. And then Bill, I got to give him credit afterwards.

He started laughing. He says, I knew the moment I said it, they got me and they were going to make that clip and he laughed about it. So, you know, respect to Bill for coming on, because, look, I'll be honest, we even talked about a bunch of uh when we reach out to the desantis people like guys we want to have an honest conversation they refuse to do it and they are not allowed to do it so all right let's go the bonus holes good name says instead of getting rid of the block button elon should make good on his promise to make twitter free speech

fair point free speech isn't free though we have a lot of rules in this country that allow us to speak freely we have a good one for for uh laura here. Vivian Reed says in the culture war, Laura mentioned about the quid pro quo with Kenneth Griffin, but never got a chance to talk about it. Can you guys talk about it a little here? Yeah. So there was a report that came out yesterday or the I believe it the day before yesterday. And I think it was originally, if I recall correctly, published in Bloomberg. And then it was recirculated by yahoo as well since they have a paywall at bloomberg and uh essentially what it was is it said that ken griffin had uh actually shaped the legislation that ron desantis if you recall last year uh had said that he was going to make it illegal after

there was this really big viral story went viral about how individuals tied to the Chinese Communist Party wanted to purchase land near Ocala, Florida, which is close to where I live. And they wanted to have it be a medical testing center for monkeys. And people started freaking out. And then it prompted DeSantis to say, OK, we're going to pass legislation to make it so that Chinese nationals cannot acquire land in the state of Florida if they're tied to the CCP. Well, ultimately, right, Ron DeSantis did this and he used it as campaign fodder to say that he was protecting Floridians from foreign land grabs.

Right. Since a lot of Chinese nationals are buying up a lot of America's farmland. But it was another example of him misrepresenting what he actually did. He had originally said he was going to make it all encompassing, right, of all the land. But then Ken Griffin, who, as I pointed out before, is the head of the Citadel Hedge Fund, which recently received an effusion of $1.5 billion from Sequoia, which is heavily compromised by the CCP. And additionally, right, the head of one of the global managing partners of Sequoia, a guy by the name of Doug Leone, just donated $2 million to Ron DeSantis' PAC. And so Ken Griffin, because he has so many financial interests and ties in China and his net worth is now worth over twenty two billion dollars as a result of that infusion, which allowed him to participate in the stock and bonds market in China with the Chinese Communist Party.

He went to DeSantis and had him change the language. Right. And it was never disclosed to the public. So this is quid pro quo, because in return, Ron DeSantis received a donation of five million dollars to his political committee from Ken Griffin. And that's going to now allow right. Chinese nationals to acquire land. And what did Ken Griffin do? Well, right before Ron DeSantis filed to run for president, he moved himself and a lot of his employees to Miami, Florida. What did DeSantis change exactly language wise so now it's near now it's only land only near military bases i believe as opposed to all land yeah right on let's read some more where are we at kurtalingus says if a state removes

trump from the ballot can the people of that state still write his name in to shamus coffee spoons the flavored ones that dissolve as you stir name in to Seamus coffee spoons the flavored ones that dissolve as you stir where'd my spoon go that's a really good idea yes if if Trump's name is removed you can write him in of course but the point is there's gonna be a lot of voters who normally just vote democrat republican and they're gonna be like huh and they're not gonna vote for anybody it'd be funny a biodegradable spoon in every bag of Seamus coffee disintegrates in your coffee. I wish we could do that.

I don't think we can do that. It's a big game. That would be amazing. Like, yeah, a cinnamon spoon or whatever. Like a cinnamon sugar cube. The color of the Irish flag, yeah. I mean, it would take a long time to figure out how to do something. Cellulose, maybe?

No, no, no. You could do a sugar thing, but it's just like to actually get it manufactured, packaged, attached to the bag, shipped out. Yep. maybe no no you could do a sugar thing but it's just like to actually get it manufactured packaged attached to the bag shipped out yeah we are we are nowhere near that um that level maybe once the actual physical location is up we can start doing specialty products all right all right we'll grab some more anime lair says hi tim i'm one of those uninitiated people you speak of and i was just wondering if you get in contact with you directly let me know so i won't message again i don't want to look like some crazy

stalker uh i don't believe you're uninitiated and that's why i read your comment because you know that i use the term uninitiated and you are watching this show and reached out um my email i have an email on the website but uh i gotta be completely honest it's almost impossible to get in touch with me i don't answer my phone anymore. I, everything's screened. I don't own a computer. I don't own a phone and it's impossible for me to have these devices.

So there you go. Welcome to the club guy. Sometimes I get 400 emails per day. I delete most of them instantly. I'll message Tim and maybe hear back from him the next day. Yeah. Maybe I just see him at night. Yeah. Unless it's really important that I'll text you.

Like 400 plus emails by the time I wake up in the morning and I'm just like, delete. And then my phone is just, it's insane. And there are people that are like, dude, I texted you. What's going on? I'm like, bro, I got 8,000 texts yesterday. That's how I feel. Yeah. It drives me crazy.

I just can't. I can't answer it. You know? Yeah. And people just don't have boundaries too when you're a public figure, right? They just think that, oh, you're just going to drop your life and everything that's going on because i'm the most important thing in the world right i'm just speaking of the people that of course want to blow your phone up and i know you all day you know the number one question i get asked is

what what do you guys think is the number one question people text me for is it okay if i message you no can you retweet this close close can i come on your show close can you shout those are like number three and number four can you shout me out online a shout out retweet you're close any idea read this article no really you guys can figure it out they want their own casper flavor no good all right nobody can get it no what do you look like without your hat on that's a good one and i still want to know the number one question i get asked by anybody who's for some reason acquired my phone number has to do with another show will you go on nope will you have sam cedar nobody's texting me that's in a perfect world. Info Wars? Is it about Vice?

No. Okay, you guys lose. It's can you call Joe Rogan for me? Oh, Joe Rogan. Oh, yeah. I want you to let him know to tell Tom Segura to call his next tour. That's right. I'm still coming.

That's gross. Dude, Tom Segura. Tom, name your next tour. I'm still coming, bro. I get emails and phone calls you wouldn't believe from like, hey, man, it was really good seeing you a couple weeks ago. I came out. Thanks for having me. Can you reach out to Joee rogan for me and i'm like i just delete

the email dude but if yeah people are like phil do you know can you tell zoltan this from five finger can you tell ivan this or can you tell at there's that happens a lot i just i just tell people i'm like i'm gonna be really honest with you okay i'll be very very blunt what do you think would happen if every time someone asked me to reach out to Joe Rogan? He'd block you. He'd have to. Right. I'm just texting Joe nonstop.

You know how many messages I've received since I was with President Trump? Can you talk to Trump for me? It's just crazy. It's like all of a sudden, you know, I have a photo of President Trump. And now I probably had, and this is no exaggeration, and I still haven't even gone through all my messages. I mean, if I look right now, how many is it? It's crazy. It's like, dude, I might.

1,247 unread text messages. And it's like, oh, can you get me a meeting? Can you do this? And I just, I don't, I can't reply. This is why everyone's like, why don't you get Trump on the show? We would love to have it it's because i am not going to go to all of the people we know who are in trump circle and be like hey talk to trump it's not happening yeah like when don jr was here we would like of course we're always we always love to have your dad on you know if it happens it

happens but we'll go through the normal channels and i'm not going to pester everybody but it's a lot and the funny thing is it's like you know i i i don't talk to joe like i maybe a couple times a year something might come up like we were in austin i was like hey what's up buddy uh you know and that's about it it might be something random like an article comes out about bigfoot and then i'll be like i just have to share this with you dude so tom segura's tour is called i'm i'm coming everywhere hilarious i want his next tour to be called I'm Still Coming. I just got to get the message through to Tom. So can you message Joe Rogan and ask him?

That's right. Okay. You'll notice if you guys, if you start doing, it's not personal when you don't get responded to by people that are on TV. It's just, it gets so big so fast that like, and you want to maintain still like a normal human life. It just becomes overwhelming, you know, because people just don't really understand how unrealistic their requests are, right? Like I get asked all the time because I'm really good friends with Roger Stone. Oh, can you get Roger to come speak at this event? Can you get this

person to come speak here? It's like, you know, these people have speaking fees, right? A lot of people don't seem to understand the sacrifice that you're asking somebody to make by, you know, harassing and badgering another person to come attend an event. And, and there's just no personal boundaries. I feel when you're a public figure and it's hard to kind of have that life, it's very overwhelming and I'll just struggle with it. I'll say this, like, you know, everyone always wants to go on Joe Rogan's show. There's a lot of people, I think who would do really, really well on the biggest podcast in the world. But the first thing I told

Joe before I went on his show was, hey, man, I'm never going to ask you to go on your show. You hit me up anytime you think I'm a good fit. And he was like, no, it's cool, man. We'll figure it out. And that was it. And then he called me back like an hour later, like, hey, man, actually, can you fly out this Friday? And I was like, that's in two days. And then my attitude is very much, you got to understand how many people, everyone is trying to get something from someone else because they think the key to their success is another person. But it's really just going to be you. You know, I will say something really fascinating as you get older and you notice the people that you knew and where they end up and where some people don't end up. It's just like an interesting thing to reflect on.

I'm young. I remember how I viewed all the people in the world who were doing great things and how i felt about it right and now where i am now doing this show and everything but what's always amazing to me is seeing people from my neighborhood when we were kids who were just some random kid being a pro skateboarder or a rock star and then someone being like oh you realize that dude in the band like he's signed to a major label deal like they got like 100 million i'm like whoa damn john's doing that that's crazy i don't even think about these people anymore it's kind of it's like a crazy thought but a lot of this stuff is like you can

track you can look back at everything they did and you're like oh i see how they made it there they did the work some people get lucky you don't get me wrong yeah like getting that your big break people seeking that big break where you get put in the spotlight and 100 people see you it's still it's up to you to make something of that big break rogan did that to me you know what i mean i had 300 000 subscribers when joe asked me to come on his show and then i jumped up to like 600 and then the next time i came on a show i jumped up to 800 but if you hadn't put in five years of daily work you wouldn't even be asked to go on the show you never know when you're gonna get your break it comes randomly when you least expect it you know and so you have to work hard. You have to do it

on your own. And people often ask me when I speak, well, how do I get involved? How do I organize? What's the best way to organize? And I think that so many people always, they rely on others, they have this group mentality of, okay, I need other people to join with me when you just have to recognize the power of your own actions, the power of taking the first step and the power of your own voice. And really the most powerful thing that you that a person can do is be courageous because you don't know. Right. How far being courageous and taking a first step and being a leader and doing something innovative on your own can be. I think that I think that some of the most transformative and impactful things that have happened in our world have been done by just people acting on their own accord. Let's simplify it.

One day, Laura Loomer decided to go hire some illegal immigrant workers at a Home Depot and go to Nancy Pelosi's house. There's no barrier for entry for that. There's no gatekeeper. There's no industry. Literally, Laura, this is why i say uh when you when you handcuffed yourself to twitter's door by myself no one with me you have done things that have generated more press than billion dollar pr firms could ever wish for one of the reasons why they ban you but it was funny because when they banned you from twitter and then the next

thing we know all these journalists are like laura loomer has handcuffed herself to the door of twitter you are the top trend in the world on Twitter, on a platform that just tried to remove you. I was the top trend on Twitter while I believe President Trump and Vladimir Putin were at the G20 summit. And they were even talking about it at the G20 summit because I had a friend of mine who was there reporting on it. And they told me that Emmanuel Macron had turned to them and was talking about the fact that, oh my god somebody just handcuffed themselves to twitter so like i said before it's just you you can you sometimes just have to do things on your own and it may sound crazy and it may sound absurd but

it could be transformative you could change the world let's read more else it says tim you you need to debate ben shapiro on why trump should be the nominee and not desantis uh yeah i'd love to i don't think so i i don't think it would happen because we're both doing our own shows we're both very busy but i don't i don't i don't imagine it would be a very strong debate because i don't think that ben and i are the are the like i know the meme with ben is debate me but i think the reality is for ben is have a conversation with me about it yeah we'd probably go back and forth on a few points he'd have to concede a few things i'd probably say i get where you're coming from on a bunch of different things you know but i definitely think it should be trump and not desantis and i'm just i'm sorry man look you

could make all the arguments in the world about desantis on on policy or whatever i know laura disagrees on all those things but one simple thing matters his policy is out of the question his campaign has failed it maybe there's a chance it turns around. I don't think it's zero. I just think it's like 1%. Maybe I'll be wrong. But his PR people, his communication staff are just doing so apocalyptically bad. If Trump or Vivek gets the nomination for president, do you think it would be better to have Ron as a VP or someone else?

It can't be a VP. It's unconstitutional. Oh, that's right, because they live in the that's right because they live in the same state same state you know but here's what about rfk let me just say structurally i pulled when you brought that up i pulled up a news article that said here's the provision in the constitution article 2 saying from separate states and then there's a bunch of other fact checks saying that's actually incorrect and misinterpreted if it were possible do you think we better have ron as a vp or like rfk rfk rfk yeah i would never want ron as a vp but i don't want him anywhere i want him gone i want him to leave florida i never want to see him again but and and i get that and

then practically speaking outside of like in terms of the broader political uh attraction a cross-party ticket yeah 20 of democrat voters like rfk and a lot of people like vivek too liberals right but but like a a trump kennedy ticket i think gets you captures a lot of even a small portion of democrat that's a unity ticket you said you like unity there you go and you know i want to give credit to the person that was first to propose that idea it's roger stone so roger stone was the first person to put that into the public sphere about a possible trump kennedy ticket i've yet to interview roger stone he'd be interesting to interview i know he wants to come on you guys should have roger stone on

yeah i think culture war is probably better a longer conversation about everything or actually i mean like a friday where he does both maybe i've never talked to him before but i hear maybe we'll figure that one out. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, Tim, uh, Adrian Curry's tweeting at you and I, she says that,

uh, she wants you to reach out to Joe Rogan for her. And she asked me to tell you in that she's, she says, can you tell Ian that he rolls too many ones? Don't shoot the messenger. Okay. Just saying,

thanks for relaying the, actually Adrian, can you tell Michaelael malice that i've been thinking about him um let him know to be honest though i mean i'll roll a 24 adrian curry could probably should probably go on joe's show she'd be great yeah absolutely hilarious uh here we go um amos moses says when are you going to have texas congressional candidate brandon herrera aka ak jesus on um he is coming on and i love how people are saying let's go Here we go. Amos Moses says, when are you going to have Texas congressional candidate Brandon Herrera, aka Jesus on?

He is coming on. And I love how people are saying, let's go, Brandon. He's already got shirts. Let's go, Brandon. Yeah. Bunker branding. Demolition.

Matt from Demolition Nation or whatever. He made shirts for him already. You can get them at Matt's website. All right. You know, before we close the show, i'd like to ask you about your book a little bit i don't want to override super chats but i do want to know what's in there oh yeah so uh my book i don't know if people can see it all there if i should grab it but uh it's called loomer do you want me to grab it or they can see it yeah yeah so it's an autobiography but it's also uh a historical

really documentation of how we got to this point in this country with the cancel culture and the deplatforming movement. From my perspective as a canary in the coal mine, I was one of the first people to really be deplatformed and digitally exterminated everywhere until I got my Twitter account back in December. And the book is called Lumered, How I Became the Most Banned Woman in the World. And I want to remind people that, yeah, I i'm on twitter but i'm still banned everywhere else i'm still banned on paypal gofundme venmo cash app i think i don't think most most normies i don't think realize exactly how much crap laura's had to go i didn't know to be honest like your your average person doesn't know too right well i mean because people just say oh that they read my wikipedia page which reads like a serial killers actually there are serial serial killers that have better wikipedia pages than me but the stuff that you've done is all kind of hilarious and awesome but it's

been impactful it's actually changed it's actually changed the political course of our of our country i mean people don't know that my undercover investigative work in the clinton campaign was utilized during the debates and actually helped facilitate President Trump getting elected. Or that you were an OG Veritas reporter. That's what I'm saying. When I was undercover at Veritas and the stuff that I did with Pelosi and the stuff that I did, of course, with Twitter, they don't know about the lawsuits I filed because I've been, like I said, silenced for the last several years. A lot of people don't even know that I ran for Congress because my campaign was the only campaign in the nations and I had access to creating social media.

So we talked about, people have asked, we got to go quick because we're over, but what is the key to success? And we often talk about, they did a study and they found perseverance, unwilling to give up. And I just want to stress, all you did was took a cheap little pair of handcuffs it was handcuffs right it was handcuffs yeah but it wasn't just a pair i knew that they were going to try to cut the bolt so i had uh my handcuffs have a metal bar welded over it so that they couldn't cut it and so then i also threw the key down the drain right on the sidewalk so that

they wouldn't be able to use the key. They had to actually chop it off with that jaw, what do they call it? Jaws of life? The jaws of life. They had to use jaws of life. There's no barrier to entry to that kind of non-violent civil disobedience in protest which generates worldly attention. Well, that's why I tell people, and I've been saying

it for years, and this has been my motto for at least seven years now, civil disobedience is the way forward. You don't have to be violent, but civil disobedience and acts of, acts of revolt against, uh, uh, against, um, authority, peaceful, okay. Creative, artistic, uh, public like I've done is the way forward because it's provocative and it makes people think. Yes. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com to support our work directly. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally everywhere at TimCast. Laura, do you want to shout anything out?

Yeah. So you can subscribe to my Substack and read my reports. It's lauralumer.substack.com. And you can get my book on my website, lumered.com and also please be sure that you're following me on Twitter, Gab, Truth Social, and Getter at lauralumer and on Telegram at lumeredofficial. I am philthatremainsofficial

on Instagram. I'm philthatremains on X. You can follow the band on... The band is all that remains. You can follow us on Spotify, Pand that remains you can follow us on spotify uh what out pandora you can follow us on twitter apple apple music on youtube the whole line amazon music yeah you know the internet amazon you always forget them you know the internet the internet i'm ian cross is speaking of the internet you can follow me there at ian crossland pretty much on every uh social media site that i'm on and look for my crazy hair because i'll probably have a picture with that.

Make sure it's me. I'm the real Ian Crossland. There's other ones out there, but it's me. Good to meet you, Laura. Yeah, really nice meeting you. I really enjoy the show and I'm a fan. And I really appreciate you inviting me my first time here. And I had a great time.

Right on. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, my first time, really. You guys can follow me at KellenPDL on X. Also follow Cast Brew Coffee on X. It's the Twitter account for our coffee company. Are you running that?

I am not, but it's like two days ago, I think it was set up, and I was just there, so I know about it. We're just basically going to be posting a bunch of skits. Yeah, it'll be like mini Cast Castle. We're writing a bunch of jokes, and we're just laughing about our plans and just, you i saw some footage today did wesley show you the uh yeah that's good yeah it's gonna be that's pretty nice they're they're uh masters of um special effects i really appreciate it's it's aaron and wesley man it's uh it's funny all right

we're good have a good night guys all right everybody we will will see you all with clips throughout the weekend and then we'll be back on Monday