Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #846 Tucker Asks Trump If He Fears ASSASSINATION, Trump SNUBS GOP Debate w/Sohrab Ahmari

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Sohrab Ahmari to discuss Tucker Carlson sitting down for an exclusive interview with Donald Trump which aired during the Fox News GOP debate, Rudy Giuliani surrendering to the Fulton County indictment, and Dan Bongino saying Trump should not post bail and stay in jail. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tonight at 9 p.m. The GOP lesser known debate will be happening, but we're not going to be watching it. So if you guys do want to see it, just heads up around 9. That's when it's going to be on. We're not going to be covering it because Fox News is threatening to sue anybody who tries to rebroadcast it. And I do think we have a fair use grounds in commenting on one of the most vital news stories in this nation. But I must admit. So we want to turn their turn their volume down.

Wasn't me this time. Uh-oh. So, uh... Tucker Carlson is going to be interviewing Donald Trump. He's already released a little demo snippet where he asks Trump if he thinks we're headed towards civil war. Ah. He asks Trump if he fears

assassination. And so we'll talk about that, as well as why I think the GOP debate is completely irrelevant. I got to be honest without Trump there. What's the point? And Trump's team has already put a statement basically saying he's won the debate because all they're going to do is talk about him, which is basically true. And honestly, you know, if you want to see Nikki Haley argue with Mike Pence about stuff, by all means do it. I just don't think it's going to be relevant to your or anyone else's life. So it is what it is. But we do have some serious information. Trump's co-defendants in Georgia have turned themselves

in all but him for the most part. And I believe Mark Meadows. I don't know if all of them have, but the mugshots are coming out and it's time to talk about the seriousness of this. Dan Bongino, smart man. He said Donald Trump should not post bond. He should challenge them because the Secret Service has federal supremacy. They could shut down that whole prison. And I think Dan's right. So we'll talk about that. We'll show what he said. Before we get started, we got a bunch of shoutouts. Head over to

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canceling $20,000. The dudes who are running it do not want me there said I'm not welcome. And if I show up, they have the authority to remove me. And so I said, Okay, dude, whatever. We are opening a skate shop in Martinsburg. For those that are in the West Virginia area and excited. We've been working on this for actually a long time. And there are issues related to the long story short of it. What's holding us back from opening the skate shop? We haven't talked about it too much. Is that we have to install a disability elevator for people to be able to access the higher floors of a building. And so we're just kind of stuck there.

But we're going to have a Martinsburg skate shop. And we're, we've actually been in talks about purchasing land and building a skate park in the area. So, uh, these guys can do whatever they want. I'm not, you know, the long story short of it is we had some locals, uh, ask us if we were coming. We said, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. I got asked again. Am I going to go? And I'm like, I could, I mean, whatever, if they want me to. And then, uh, someone told me they were doing, it's a jam with the best trick contest. And I said, I'll throw down a bunch of money and we'll, you know, we'll hook it up. And then there's a bunch of like super angry, woke people from a local shop or something like that. And I'm like, dude, I don't even know what's going on, what they're talking about. If they don't want me there and they're saying they have

the authority to have me removed on trespassing or whatever. I just laugh. And I'm like, bro, do your thing. I'm going to keep doing what we're already doing. So you go ahead and do your event. But now, you know, and head over to Timcast dot com. Click. Join us. Become a member. If you want to support our work directly, we're going to have a members only uncensored show for you tonight at 10 p.m. Should get really interesting. And maybe then we'll talk about what happened on that that lesser known debate, if it matters. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel, and more importantly, take the URL from this video, share it wherever you can, it really does help. Word of mouth is the

main way podcasts grow if you want to support our work. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Saurabh Amari. Good to be here. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you do? This is my second time on the show. I now, then I was working for the New York Post. I now run my own magazine called Compact

and I'm the author of a new book behind me called Tyranny Inc. about how a lot of the threats to liberty today come from the private sector.

Right on. So it's not just the government you're saying and I think everyone would agree with you when you mention the private sector because there's big

tech censorship, there's big pharma. So we'll talk about that. Thanks for hanging out. Very good. Thanks for having me.il's here hi i am uh phil labonte lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains anti-communist and counter-revolutionary ian how you doing today i'm very good i got the luke's crystal with me and you're closer to my chest this time touching my skin so let the energy flow i'm ian crossland i'm very happy to be here so i'm glad you're back and uh tyranny is badass this is a big part of um the vague's been pushing this message that it's like the administrative class and everybody it's not republican and democrat it's there's an administrative class that's

hijacked this country and then there's everybody else and i think along with what tim said big agriculture big pharma big tech i mean these things are the single i mean it's not a single yeah big ag dude that's the worst like, something is wrong with the food in this country. And everybody I ask who's traveled abroad says the same thing. You eat the exact same food in Mexico, you lose weight like crazy. You eat the same food in America, you gain weight like crazy. Something's wrong. Something is wrong.

It's like when you feed a duck a bunch of bread. Yeah, white bread. And it just inflates and then dies. Stuff with potassium bromate in it and crap like that. Maybe that's it. I don't know. Well, anyway, glad you're here, man. We'll dig deep into this book.

Sounds exciting. Thanks, Ian. What's happening, Serge? Yo, I am here hanging out. Excited that you got your little Santeria here still with you. It's going to be cool to see if you got that energy today. Anyways, yeah, I'm Serge.com. Let's get started whenever you're ready.

Here you go, ladies and gentlemen. From the Daily Mail, Tuckerlson asks trump about his enemies in preview of bombshell interview to run at the same time as the republican debate are you worried that they're going to try to kill you tucker asks of trump this will be going up in about one hour on x and i'm really excited for it yo the, the preview is already crazy. And my favorite question is Tucker Carlson asking Trump if he thinks Civil War is coming. I have a feeling, I'm half kidding about that,

he says, do you think we're moving towards Civil War? And then it's followed up with, whatever happened to Mike Pence? Well, apparently he's on the lesser known GOP debate tonight. And as much as I'm a big fan of Vivek Ramaswamy, that's the only reason I'd probably consider watching the GOP debate is if I want to see what he's going to say,

but I got to be honest, guys. It's going to be like 10 minutes. That's how much airtime Vivek will actually get to speak. He's going to get like maybe 13 or 14 minutes if he's really assertive. And I'm not going to sit there and listen to Chris Christie argue with Mike Pence because that's no different to me

than if I went down to the local corner store and listened to Jim Bob argue with Ricky about who they, you know, what the tax rate should be. I'm like, guys, with all due respect, you're allowed to have opinions. And I'm sure your opinions matter a lot to the people in your in your close circles and your family. But you're not going to be the president. So it's interesting. But if I have to choose between the lesser known gop debate and people who are never going to be president or come anywhere near that you know that office and literally anything else like even reading a cnn article i'm not i'm not going to watch these like if i'm working i'm not going to go down a local grocery store and ask these guys

their opinion so i can report on it i'm sorry i'm not trying to be a dick last night i said i'd rather watch the gop debate uh with vivek because i wanted to watch vivek school all these other candidates about like the liberal economic order the deep state and how to break it apart and things like that but the more i think about it the more i think this trump if i had to pick one and you don't have to pick one but because you can watch them both eventually this is like donald trump is in a position as a former president no in history no american president has ever been in this position so i think this is a fascinating opportunity for a debate or for a conversation. I don't think they're going to be debating anything. But just to listen to Trump.

I mean, I haven't listened to him sit down and talk to anybody in like a year or like half a year or something. He hasn't been doing a lot of interviews that I've seen. I imagine the Tucker Trump one is going to be the most entertaining, right? Like, I mean, Donald Trump is hilarious and Tucker's pretty hilarious too. And I'm sure that they're going to say some sufficiently funny things. There's not a whole lot of question about, well, you know, I mean, look,

I don't want to be the guy that's, you know, projecting things now. It's unlikely that anyone else is going to, you know, take Trump's position. Ann Coulter said he's not going to win. No, I'm not saying that he's going to win. I'm saying for the Republican nomination.

She said he's not going to get the nomination. Who does she think is going to get it? DeSantis. No. Someone said she... No. No. No, no.

I've been enjoying the decline of Ron DeSantis, I have to say. I called it about a year ago. I think DeSantis is a figure who is trying to channel all the populist energy of the Trump movement into these kind of fake populism. That's just all about kind of superficial cultural issues. And it's kind of amusing to me that the Republican base sees through that and hasn't bought that. Is your take on DeSantis that he's like ace?

Because he's attacking... He's the consolidation of the old pre-Trump GOP. But he's attacking Trump from the right, though. Only on these cultural issues issues which more or less okay you can have like disagreements at the margins on the right about some cultural issues um but where trump really stands out from the conventional republican party beginning in 2015-16 is that he supports uh maintaining entitlements he doesn't want entitlements cut he's skeptical of free trade he's skeptical of foreign policy hawkism and on all of those issues ron de santis is much more of a conventional republican figure but with this veneer of i'm going after disney because of like

the gay shows when you said that he wants to uh maintain that trump wants to maintain entitlements what does that mean exactly yes he you, beginning in 2015-16 said, I'm not going to cut your Social Security. I'm not going to mess with Medicare and Social Security. We shouldn't call them entitlements because it makes it sound

like those things are things that government gives you through the taxpayer. Those are, we should be called earned benefits because it's

through your payroll taxes and all you're getting is. And so, it's a very weird fetish of the kind of Paul Ryan Mitt Romney wing of the Republican Party to try to cut those or privatize them. DeSantis, when he was in Congress, even supported privatization. And no one wants that except Wall Street fee skimmers, right? People who would then manage Social Security. But every time there's a transaction, they get a cut.

They get a cut. No one one else no normal person wants that so you know the my mother lives in massachusetts which is in the new hampshire media market um so there's kind of primary advertising and one of the most devastating trump ads i don't know if you guys remember it's actually a trump aligned pack it's not trump himself but it showed a kind of repulsive desantis looking type guy sticking his finger into like a jar of Nutella or chocolate or something. I did not see that. Okay. The idea is that he's going to go after your retirement. That's great.

And it was devastating. So anyway, I like how you framed it, the lesser known debates. Where in Massachusetts? Arlington. I'm from Chicopee originally. Okay. I live in new hampshire so ann coulter was speaking with someone at the new york times and she said that immigration is the winning candidate not trump not anybody else and whoever brings immigration to the debate stage is going to win

and she thinks trump can't win now i think she's wrong but gives me pause because she was the one who called donald trump to win when everyone was laughing in her face. Yeah. Someone suggested we have her on the show again because, because of that, because yeah, she was, I think it was what, was it Bill Maher that she was on? And she's like,

he's like, I think Bill asked, who do you think is going to win? And she goes, Donald Trump. And then the whole audience erupts in laughter. And the way she said it, she actually qualified it by saying right now,

Donald Trump. So it was like, she knew she was aware of the fact that it's possible that something could change in the now donald trump so it was like she knew she was aware of the fact that it's possible that something could change in the future it was it was it was really really smart that's pretty nostradamus like and i respect her for that yeah but i'm sorry but as even in the border states even among republicans immigration is not the top issue i don't know it's an issue it's an issue It's really bad. And I agree with people who say Trump talked a lot and didn't really deliver much on immigration. But it's not the economy.

It's not things like wage. What do you think it is? What's the big issue? I think the main one is cost of living, the inability of young people to buy homes, just sort of the economic stresses that ordinary people feel. Young people don't vote though. No, no, it's not just the young. It's the old want to protect their retirement benefits,

all of it. It is not the border. It's an issue and it's really bad for Biden, but it's not the issue. That's my, so I'm willing to- It's peripheral to economics.

I mean, unchecked immigration is going to have a destabilizing effect. It's bad for wages for workers, for sure. Yeah. But it's like it doesn't resonate that way when people vote their sort of priority of issues. It's often kind of secondary or tertiary. Yeah. I don't even know if I care to see Ron DeSantis argue with Vivek, to be completely honest, because even Vivek is not going to win.

I don't know about that. Isn't he angling for Veep? I don't know if he's angling for Veep, but he's certainly working in a really positive direction if that's what he was doing. He's saying all the stuff that I want to hear. I know. He's talking about making actual cuts and abolishing stuff.

He's coming up to your side, whispering sweet nothings in your ear. He's specific, too. He's flirting, man. There's 35,000 employees in the FBI. I'm going to fire 20,000 of them. He's not vague about it. He's real specific.

He's going to move 15,000 people to the U.S. Marshals and other organizations. This is VP level stuff. Horny. Because he's not going to be president, but he's saying so much that the people who like him, if he's on a Trump ticket, are like, I want the vaccine. That makes it easy for me, too. I know that, like I said earlier, it's obvious Donald Trump is the strong favorite to be the nominee. And the performance of any one person on the undercard debate doesn't really matter.

But because Vivek is in there, because of the topics that he's going to bring up, he's going to make these other guys talk about these things and yeah like i said i don't think that it's going to affect the outcome but i do like the idea of republicans having to discuss making real cuts and i'm gonna you know i'm gonna say they want to i know they do but again the more people you have talking about it the the more likely it becomes that it will happen and i'm not saying it's likely i'm fully aware of the government's history with making cuts but you know if we're if i'm going to even pay attention to politics at all, I have to at least have a little bit of hope. So let me ask you then, Soreb. I see them in the general or even in the primary.

The commercials are going to be under Donald Trump. Gasoline was $1.43. Under Joe Biden, it's averaging $3.75. Yeah, I think that's a more devastating message than Disney. Even immigration. I think immigration is up there, but I would agree with you. I think it probably comes down for the... Here's the difficulty in any election.

Young people probably don't care about gas for the most part. It's not their biggest concern how much their gas costs because they're not commuting to work every day in the same way someone who's older is or many of them may be living in suburban urban areas or they're used to taking public transport but they don't vote that much anyway they also don't have anything to relate it to because they weren't driving 10 years ago if they're exactly exactly but you take a look at the largest voting demographic block is going to be probably what is it at this point millennials i don't i don't know though because nobody's having kids so maybe millennials are actually not not as populous as we might think but it's going to be around there it's going to and and

a lot of these people are going to be like yo gas prices so there's probably there's an opportunity to capture a lot of people with issues in immigration and health care and things like this so yes those will play a role i don't think they're going to rely only on argument the economy i think immigration plays a role but fair point maybe ann coulter got lucky in 20 was it 2015 or whatever 2016 that's possible early 2016 for her to say desantis that is like just jarring i have no idea what she's talking about and like i mean we should just have her on if she's around because she cares a lot about immigration and and you know i for for the reason tim mentioned um immigrations is a open borders is a depresses wages especially the lower rungs of the labor market for native workers um and so but you know and it's true i think i Ron DeSantis, insofar as he's supported E-Verify in Florida,

I mean, he's like tougher on that issue probably than Trump. But I just don't think it's the overwhelming issue. The thing is, it's not only that. It's also like your taxes, et cetera, are being strained because they're going towards a larger population that you're not paying. There's more into it. I think if people knew more about why it was an issue, why people had an issue with it, it would be much more important and in the forefront.

But yeah, I'm surprised to learn that it's not as big an issue or you think it's not a big of an issue. You got this book, Tyranny, basically about the bureaucrats running the show. I haven't read the book yet, but is that, I mean, imagine. No, it's about corporate power, which is not necessarily government power,

although they support each other. Have you talked to Vivek about his platform or have you followed his? I interviewed Vivek. I have a column at the American Conservative, and I interviewed him specifically about his proposal to abolish the FBI and replace it with some other federal law enforcement agency, which I think is good because the FBI has become… Derelict. Deeply politicized has become derelict deeply politicized deeply deeply is it even a government organization at this point or is it like one of those quasi private you know it's funny the phrases like deep state where we used to use them when we're talking about like the egyptian state there was like the normal government and then there was like the military or turkey

now it's i think fair to speak of an american deep state and so i don't agree with everything vivek says but i agree with him on this one issue it's gotten really bad let's jump to this uh this next story the other big news that came out today we got uh this from the post-millennial couple stories rudy giuliani turns himself in, whether you dislike or you like Donald Trump, they're going to come for you. And we got this, look at what they're doing. People Magazine. This is Donald Trump and his allies are taking their Georgia

mug shots. See the booking photos. So, Donald Trump, nothing yet. You got Rudy Giuliani here. You got John Eastman. These are lawyers for Trump, mind you. Mark Randall Meadows, was he chief of staff right? Chief of staff or the president, Kenneth John

Chaseborough, Jeffrey Clark has not turned himself in I believe here's Jenna Ellis taking her mug shot Ray Stalling Smith III, he does not look happy Robert Cheely okay so I was way off, I thought it was only a few who didn't but a lot haven't so far david james schaefer i think this is a this is a uh gop republican party uh guy what

is it what's his role georgia state former georgia state senator and chairman of the georgia republican party and i think what was he accused of he uh organized with an alternate slate of electors that in the event of a legal dispute victory, they would then have those electors take action. And for that, he is being criminally charged. He looks actually amused by what's going on. And, oh, okay, there's actually very few people. Here's Sidney Powell.

The Kraken. The Kraken. And here's Kathleen Latham. Scott Hall. Misty Hampton is not there. Scott Hall, not the wrestler. Not the bail bondsman, actually. But, uh, first, I just want to say

they're coming for lawyers. I want to make sure people understand that we cannot let this be a frog boiling in a pot moment. They are arresting Trump's legal counsel. Why? They want to make sure that no lawyer will represent anyone in the Trump sphere. Trump will not be able to sue a ham sandwich, as the saying goes.

And the Trump sphere is going to expand, too. Like right now, it's Donald Trump and the people, blah, blah, blah, whatever. It's going to be someone else. Like there's likely going to be a split in the Republican Party. I don't know what's going to happen in the party and i don't want to try to to guess but like there's going to be the maga party the the party that or the part of the republican party that does not like the establishment and there's going to be people that like freaking bill crystal and those kind of guys and and you know the the the um donald trump's party the maga party they're never going to be accepted and i really think it

at this point they're going to there's going to be persecution of of people there's already people that are in jail have been since january 6th for going there and, you know, basically being a supporter of Donald Trump and breaking. And we're not talking about. Yeah, exactly. Talking about people who didn't even they didn't break trespass, trespass, trespassing laws. I've dealt with this and the police say, unfortunately, if there is no warning sign, they didn't break the law. So what do we have? We have three no trespassing signs and a physical barrier. So here's how it works. this is maryland mind you we're in maryland and this is sharing jurisdiction for the most part with much of uh you know dc and maryland are separate i get but they border each other and so there there are similarities here not that they're the same

but as we were told when someone entered property, unless you explicitly tell them they can't be there, they're allowed to be there now. The other issue is we had a guy actually walk in the house. And that is burglary. So you can't do that. And what they explained was as soon as someone crosses a physical barrier, it's actually burglary. So I don't think that applies to a government building, which is why some of these people are getting like obstructing a government proceeding or whatever. But for it to be trespassing, there has to be a warning first. And trespassing applies to the broad general property and outstanding structures. So we were told if you put up a sign at the front of the driveway

that says no trespassing, the moment they step onto your property, they have committed the crime of trespassing, we can actually intervene. If there's's no sign they can walk up and go all the way that's not going to door they also said if you put a single piece of string across your driveway and someone steps over it now they've committed burglary that that's breaking a crossing a barrier to enter so these people on january 6th they're going after. This is the first step. The people who in general supported Trump, not the people who are rioting or who are violent that I get. You arrest people who are violent and riot. Despite the fact that these people are being tortured, they shouldn't be in many of them at this point, it should have time served for a riot. But there are people who showed up an hour later, were walking around, confused,

walked onto the Capitol grounds. They got you. Brandon Strzok didn't even go in the building and they shook him down. Now we're hearing this is a crazy story with Trump. The feds, I don't know exactly what happened, but one of his staff, technical staff has flipped and is now testifying against Trump in the classified documents case, dropped the Trump team lawyer and then brought on a federal public defender, and is now claiming his previous testimony was false. I don't believe it for one second. I think they went to him and said, here's how it's going to go down. You're going to claim you lied, or we're going to claim you lied, and then you're going to go to prison for perjury.

Pick one. And he was just like, I don't know he was just like i don't know what to do i don't have to do and they and they probably said here here listen if you piss us off we will crush you if you piss off donald trump what's he gonna do about it nothing so who do you think is the safer bet and that this is what i think happened now this guy flips and now he's testifying against trump i don't believe it for one second. I was thinking this is like it's a little off topic, but Trump told those people to go fight like hell at the Capitol. This is Bill. I think Bill Mitchell said this. I didn't know that on the culture war last week. He didn't say go fight like hell.

He said something like you have to fight like hell if you're going to save this country. So if I I mean, and I'm not saying that he incited a violent riot, but if I told you to go over someone's house and fight like hell. He didn't say go to their house. Those are two different quotes you're putting together. Okay. So he said, you guys got to fight like hell, you got to fight like hell, go to the Capitol now? No. No, he didn't say that.

He said something to the effect of, you got to fight like hell if you're going to save this country because we're dealing with all these problems, blah, blah, blah. Then later on in the speech it says, now we're going to peacefully protest at the you've got to fight like hell if you're going to save this country, because we're dealing with all these problems, blah, blah, blah. Then later on in the speeches, now we're going to peacefully protest at the Capitol to listen to politicians. That's all I needed. That's better. If it's totally unrelated, the way Bill framed it was it sounded like he was saying, you've got to go to the Capitol and fight like hell. He didn't say that.

And I'll tell you this, too. I'll take that standard. If you're saying fight like hell is incitement to violence. Oh, geez. Oh, shucks. So many Democrats. Let's go and round them all up. I mean, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, Maxine Waters.

I'm sure the entirety of the squad. Oh, yeah. You can go down the list. Because it's normal rhetoric. Yeah, it's normal rhetoric. It's something that they say. Politicians say that all the time. I mean, how many times have you heard it?

Tons. Tons on both sides. Even the classified one, I can't help but notice that it seems like everybody who worked in every branch of government seemingly had classified plans to attack Iran or whatever in their bathtub. But only one of them is getting prosecuted, and that's Donald Trump. And I think ordinary people just realize that. So I think since 2015-16, there's been a kind of – really the mid-2010s across the developed world, there's been a kind of populist uprising. Actually, some of the movements are of the left, some of them are of the right,

like Trump, Brexit. And the response of the establishment has been, we're not going to rethink what's wrong with the current economic and political order and see what people want. We're going to use law enforcement. The fact that people vote this way is a law enforcement problem to be used to be solved using the sharp end of the criminal

justice system and um i think it's really bad i think actually it it's more and more likely to stoke genuine scary anger and radicalism because people went to vote and the kind of democratic mechanism is isn't has not worked and the establishment has sought to undo the choices people made so like in britain you know the establishment went really hard to try to ensure that brexit wouldn't actually happen they even like charged some brexit activist with a criminal uh crime for for like failing to check one box on some election form he had to fill out and they were going to make him pay like 20 000 pounds wow and of course here you know it's all blended in my head as one issue like remember george papadopoulos and michael cohen meeting with his supposed Kremlin handlers, the, you know, the PP tapes, etc.

All of these were efforts by the kind of establishment to criminalize the other side that had won an election. And it's I think it's really, really I was looking into Trump could have done a higher time. Yeah, Trump could have done it. Trump won. Hillary Clinton was lying and claiming he was a Russian spy. And he was just like, well, I don't want to rock the boat. So this is what you get. The DOJ was looking into Donald Trump, his own DOJ,

for his entire presidency because of something his political opponent fabricated during the election. No, no. It's incredible that we accept that. It is. It really is incredible that we accept that. It is. It really is incredible that we accept this. What if Donald Trump is playing 5D chess? And the real conspiracy is that he's not playing 5D chess.

See? There you go. Also, think about this. What if he didn't go after the Democrats with his with his first term because he knew how would it look? There is a contentious election. Then he immediately starts rounding up and arresting all his opponents. He needs a certain degree of victimhood or martyrdom. He then has all this stuff go down.

Like, why is Trump going to surrender and just go for this? And it's like he wants the mugshot he wants the political martyrdom i i think that that i mean at least the the stuff that you're saying in the in the beginning like about the his apprehension about actually prosecuting i think that's likely um i think it's a fact actually i think he said it oh did he couldn't just start going after him because i mean he was already, he was already scrutinized like mad. He should have. He totally should have.

He needed to get several special prosecutors to start doing a bunch of special investigations, firing people left and right and saying, don't know, don't care. I feel like his executive cognition is not that great relative to some excellent you know excellent commanders because like where was he during the summer of 2020 when the riots kicked off three days later i'm like where's the national guard dude where's the national guard don where's the national guard and some speculation there's burning fires where's the national guard some speculation was that he allowed it to happen so that he could say hey look how bad the left is that could be that's that would be a horrible tragedy if he did that well look he didn't clamp it out before the what's the alternative start if they get the guns out

there to prevent the fires and then they would show all these videos of soldiers marching through streets and be like it's happening again and yeah it was like your reaction is the target like if donald trump had had actual like militarized police, like National Guard running through the streets, picking up Antifa when they had the narrative that what they were doing was protesting injustice carried out by police. Are you kidding me? That would have been a nightmare. But if a commander, a military commander is concerned about making decisions based on what people are going to think about him. I'm sorry. That's a failed commander.

He's not just a military commander. And you don't use the military in the united states we use the national guard that's you're not supposed to you you really don't want to use the national guard unless you have to i didn't want to but we did have to he would need to invoke i think it was the insurrection act because national guard is state yeah so if trump wanted to intervene it's insurrection act and army so he didn't do that he didn't i thought he should have with the clintons and maybe he's buddies with the clintons i mean i've seen plenty of pictures of him and epstein and jeff used to hang out like no come on dude there's video of them hanging out at a party laughing at each other like looking at girls and laughing and and there's there's a lot of people who are at

parties elon musk is in a picture with gillian maxwell and he's like laughing and joking yes girls together and he was like she walked up behind me and got in the photo i don't have anything to do with this jeff and don show me the laughing and show me the evidence in the client list and put trump's name on it i say that i say lock him up all the same you tell me that you saw me was at a party with him with a guy who's worth half a billion dollars and they're laughing together and i'm just like come on with jeffrey epstein jordan peterson yes with jeffrey jordan peterson was at an event and some kid walked up and said i got a picture with you dr peter said sure the kid then unfurled a keck flag they got a picture of it posted it and then every magazine

picked it up and accused jordan peterson of being a nazi because of it are you implying that donald trump didn't know who jeffrey epstein was no i'm saying to imply that trump did something wrong for simply having been at the same party as epstein no he's just buddies with he's buddies with that class of people with the clintons. He felt like he was... So is it the deep state that wanted him arrested, or was it the Clintons? What do you think, Saurabh? It's all of them. Did he stumble into pissing off the deep state, trying to be buddies with the Clintons through his presidency, and he just pushed him too far?

Or did he piss off the Clintons and push them too far? No, I think his whole agenda challenged the ruling class consensus, right? So he free trade the various wars in the Middle East in the post 9-11 wars. He opposed, he lambasted the establishment. He called the wars an utter failure. He said George W. Bush, he said to Jeb, your brother lied to us. Would you say the establishment is that more this this administrative tyranny thing that you're talking about or is it

actually the politicians like biden and hillary or are they part of it but they're part of it for sure i mean and there's like lots of business leaders etc there's a i think there's the united states it's it's fair to say has a unit party there's a kind of party that it includes establishment republicans and lots of lots of democrats and they were committed to a certain worldview of unlimited free trade relatively open borders etc etc and and and trump came along and he challenged that and they utterly punished him he was he was threatening the military industrial complex i mean that is the easiest thing to point out there's a bunch of things trump did but you look back i think was it eisenhower who gave us that warning yeah it was

and then trump comes in and says your brother lied to us about these wars we're going to end these wars and what did trump start doing working towards ending these wars and then all of a sudden it was just alarm bells and they were claiming that trump was working for vladimir putin by trying to prevent war because russia because it helped helped Russia that we weren't at war with them. These people are evil and they're insane. But I have a question for you guys. I have a question for you. Who did I say would be next after they arrest the lawyers?

You guys remember what I said? Journalists. Yeah. Journalists. Hey, what's that story? Ian. Yeah. Journalists. Hey, what's that story, Ian? Fired founder of right wing org Project Veritas is under investigation in New York. Oh, boy. This is actually from August 18th. And I just saw it earlier.

The founder of Project Veritas, a conservative nonprofit known for its hidden camera stings, is under investigation by a suburban New York prosecutor's office in the latest fallout after his ouster from the group over allegations that he mistreated workers. They're not going to say exactly what it's all about or what he's being investigated for. And maybe this goes nowhere. But I'm not going to ignore this because we don't want to be frogs in a pot boiling. James O'Keefe had a number of investigations that aided Donald Trump. There were videos of, there was one video we had where a woman was filling out ballots for another one. Remember that one? There was one where a guy was in his car saying, look at all these ballots that I've collected. I get paid for these. Now, this is not exactly what I meant. My, what I thought was likely to happen first, and they haven't charged James O'Keefe or anything like

that. My prediction is not necessarily Tucker, but somebody who was in communication with the Trump legal team, who was then going on TV and going on the internet and advocating for Trump's election claims and assisting and rallying people, or some of these people who were saying things like encouraging people to go out to go out to January 6th and literally be violent. Those are the people I think they go after first. But this is still in the periphery of what I thought might happen. James O'Keefe, Project Veritas. You know, look, this is interesting. Fox shutters Tucker Carlson.

They shut him down. So he goes and does his own thing. They're furious about it. They try to sideline james o'keefe he resists he then launches his own organization they cannot stop him the only thing they can do is make some fake bogus some bogus charges against them and stop him through legal force i mean the reality is they're so desperate they're losing that's why they're trying these tactics.

But I'm telling you, I see them going after James O'Keefe because of this. I'm going to introduce just a slight note of skepticism on this, which is it is possible that James O'Keefe violated New York state labor laws, right? Well, sure, a lot of things are possible, but I really don't believe that. Sure, sure. Okay, but my point is that precisely because they've become so politicized, these kinds of investigations, that no one can, you know, like, even if he did it, you're like, oh, it must be because of his speech. They're suspecting. But in a case like this, and given the backdrop of how the sort of official left has behaved, you can't help but think this is a kind of political persecution, even if it may be a legitimate case. And I know you're saying it probably isn't, but I'm just saying it could be. Anybody, if you offered someone the opportunity to place a bet, is this a political prosecution or legitimate? Anybody willing to take the legitimate bet?

They're welcome to play my poker games. I mean, but I think that you're on something with your broader point that the and i've i've mentioned this before the fact that there's so many people now that don't trust the government and and look i was i've been a like a libertarian kind of dude for at least like almost 15 years or so and so i'm real quick to be like, you know, government, no. And I want to cut the government,

blah, blah, blah. But when it comes to the average, you know what you'd call normie, I really think COVID and the vaccine has really, really opened up a massive, massive new group of people that just don't trust the government.

They just don't believe what they're telling, you know what the government says and stuff. And I, I'm not sure what that means for for the country like low trust societies are violent societies low trust societies are societies that have weaker economies there's there's more uh just more friction you need more lawyers in low trust societies you need more uh more more courts more everything is harder in a low trust society and the more that we do things that separate people from each other and and make people look at class differences and race differences and and stop focusing on the fact that you know we have liberal principles that unify us as a

country. We don't need to worry about your skin color. We don't need to worry about your religion. All you have to do is understand liberal principles and accept the fact that people should be allowed to decide how their own lives should be structured. And it's easy for us to get along. But if we can't allow people to live their lives the way that they see fit, I don't know how you fix the problem of a low-trust society. Well, so here's – I mean to talk a little bit about the book, precisely there are possibilities for private coercion in the market. Sure. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. for private coercion in the marketplace, right? There is a kind of free market theory

that imagines that we're still in the late 18th century and you just have independent farmers and mechanics and artisans who can trade at arm's length. That is not what the American economy looks like. Most industries are super concentrated. There's two or three predominant sellers and everyone else, especially if you're a worker, you're at the mercy of the wage. It's like the wage is no longer the perfect crystallization of supply and demand.

It's an index of relative bargaining power. And so those are issues that government can help with and I believe should. So, for example, the fact that in this country, half of fast food workers have to rely on public welfare to make ends meet that is not good we had so we have what's called a low-wage high welfare society why is that bad by the way that it's not when we call it high welfare it's not like the welfare benefits are actually especially generous in some ways they're quite miserly but it just means that as a share of income for kind of the lower third of the country, the share of the income they need to make ends meet, welfare makes up a big part of that. And wages are not sufficient. So what we're doing is as taxpayers, we're subsidizing,

you know, low wages, communism, and, and at the same time, you know, workers in that position are not only subject to the whims of the boss, but they're only subject to the whims of the boss but they're also subject to the whims of the welfare administrator who gets more and more powerful because he controls the fate of more and more people so those are problems where we need to work together democratically to try to solve and if people are constantly thinking that government is out to get them to try to like impose irrational mask mandates and so forth, it becomes harder. And so this is, I'm really just kind of dittoing your point. Sure, sure.

Because there are problems that need kind of collective action. Yeah. And if you don't believe in the government, if you have a society that just generally doesn't believe that the other people that they're trying to work with are actually looking to actually solve problems as opposed to just acquire or amass power for themselves or their constituents. I mean, people complain about where the country is heading and stuff. The best way to make sure that the country is heading in a good direction is to be able to trust that you can enter into contract and your economy is going to work well and you can trust that your neighbors aren't going to steal your stuff you know and the government is not going to take your property

and where we're going with these prosecutions it hits the nail on the head of the hammer nail on the head of the hammer exactly what the founding fathers talked about when they talked about being innocent until proven guilty if a society tells you that no matter how good of a person you are,

they will lock you up and punish you, then there is no incentive to be good. So what we see with things like this is lawlessness and arco tyranny. People are looting these stores, mass raids, and they get away with it. You defend yourself,

you go to prison. That guy in New York who was being attacked and then stabbed the guy and went to Rikers. And it was only because of public outcry that he got out. How many people do you think right now in this country, in these cities, have suffered a similar fate and we just don't know about it? It's an inversion. And the reason is, it's really simple. It is easier for the police to arrest James O'Keefe than it is for them to arrest one random guy looting a Nike store. Why? The guy looting a Nike store. Why?

The guy looting the Nike store could have a knife, a gun, and he'll fight. James O'Keefe will open the door, turn around, put his hands behind his back, and let you arrest him. So what are they going to keep doing? Law enforcement will go after low-hanging fruit to hammer everything that looks like a nail. And if there is some politicized charge against any of these Republicans

or media personalities, people like James O'Keefe, then they'll do it. And the cops are going to be like, well, you know, this one's easy. That's it. Then what happens? So Tucker, he's putting up his video with Trump. So when he asks Trump if he thinks right towards the Civil War, I'm really interested to see what Trump says. I imagine Trump's going to say no. I'm not sure.

I mean, maybe he says yes yes considering what's going on but you gotta understand that if this anarcho-tyranny persists eventually the view is doj is illegitimate yeah and and and why would anyone think otherwise even right now certainly democrats would agree with it but that's not what what matters what matters is do we as a nation agree that our Department of Justice is a legitimate force for justice, or do we believe it is simply a gang run by partisans to torture and oppress their political enemies? I'm pretty sure every Trump supporter believes the latter. And if that's the case, there comes a time when you're, say, a fat 70-year-old dude in Provo, Utah, and they show up at your house with a battering ram, and then they kill you. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, there was just the, just like, what, yesterday or the day before was the anniversary of Ruby Ridge? Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. I think yesterday. But Ruby Ridge is still a little bit different. It is. Yeah, they shot the woman. Firearms charge, and then they tried using a justification for a raid. oh yeah that's right yeah i think yesterday but ruby we're just a little bit different it is

well yeah they shot firearms charge and then they tried using a justification for a raid you look at that and you look at um waco and that was they found a bunch of guns or whatever and then there's controversy over those may have been something there's more of those stories we don't know about right it's not it's so simple, we're dealing with something overt and desperate. The Democrats have lost everything. They're losing music. They're losing movies. They're losing culture in general. And in their panic and desperation, they're going for brute force. And that will just shatter what is left of confidence in their legitimacy. That what happens? I honestly don't know. You know, what happens i honestly don't know you know

what happens when we get to the point where they kill that guy in provo utah there's that woman that school teacher in chicago she was threatening trump and baron and they show up and just arrest her peacefully to be fair you know some frail little woman who's not known to be armed is a big difference is very different from a guy posting photos himself with rifles at least the guy that couldn't walk has guns we don't know that she had it you know so but what happens when that provo utah thing kind of expands what happens when you get seven guys who don't plot anything ridiculous aren't talking about going to the governor's mansion or anything like that but they just say we none of us believe that the doj is legitimate what happens then when the fbi shows up and they

they've got a car blocking the highway they say you turn right around you don't you've got nothing to say here we got nothing to say to you turn around what happens when people stop respecting the badges of these law enforcement because they're doing things like going after trump and trump's lawyers well to be fair i mean you you see the increase in crime in in cities and that's because the people that are living in the cities don't respect the police. Exactly. That's my point. Yeah. So, I mean, you'll see more of this.

You'll see more unrest. And then, you know, will people, will citizens take it into their own hands? Because you're seeing more and more where people are sick and tired of it. I don't know that they're going to. You just saw the dude, I think, in Atlanta, where the DA's not going to charge him for smoking the guy that was robbing someone. Oh, the gas station. Yeah, the guy that just...

No, no, no, that was Michigan. It was Michigan? The gas station with the six-pack, and he shoots the guy. Yeah, one-handed. He doesn't put the beard on. He just pops the dude. Yep. See, here's the issue.

We went too far in one direction. Maybe. I do think that in many ways we are winning and i think we're on track to win i don't know if that's a guarantee i don't know what's going on but when you see there's a story out of michigan where a guy with a box car to threat he's threatening the store the clerk some dude who's got a concealed carry just shoots him and they said we're not going to prosecute him he's allowed to do it he's also the good guy right he was a security he He had previous hours as a security guard.

And wow, one hand holding a six pack. And he stopped this evil criminal. That's the good news is, if we as a society say, we will not prosecute you for defending other people. Maybe it's not that these individuals don't fear the police anymore. They fear everyone else. Absolutely. It is 100% a deterrent. If people are armed in,

if you live in a place where people are armed and you might get shot, that is a deter that deters people from trying to commit crimes. But we live in a super armed society. Why, why is it also a high crime? Because it's, it's extremely hard to carry guns in some places.

Most places, probably. I mean, it's... In West Virginia, they have concealed carry. I'm sorry, constitutional carry. So long as you have an ID for the state, you can walk into a gun store, you buy a gun, you gotta fill out the federal background check form, wait for that to clear.

Usually it takes like 10-15 minutes. It could take days. Then once you take the gun, you got to fill out the federal background check form. Wait for that to clear. Usually takes like 10, 15 minutes. It could take days. Then once you take the gun, you can put it in your holster and your waistband or under your coat or whatever you got, and you can walk out. But a lot of states don't have that. And even states that are actually kind of OK, like Texas. I think Texas recently passed constitutional carry. But for a while, you had to take a test.

You had to do a course on a handgun training course. Maryland's the same way. For a lot of people to take a test you had to do a course on a handgun training course maryland's the same way for a lot of people it's not so easy to do and so the areas where you'd think you would need the weapon high crime urban areas are the hardest place to get what hardest places to get weapons and not only that in places like chicago where after it was uh what was that what was the ruling in 2008 i keep forgetting the name uh not bruin um heller heller yeah after that all of a sudden it's like okay chicago can't stop you from having a handgun but no building will let you in if you do yeah but the more more importantly why is it that these criminals don't fear anybody might be

armed because if you defend yourself you go to jail if you try to defend others you go to jail look at uh uh what was the guy's name penny in new york there's a guy in a train threatening to kill everyone on the train so him and two other guys subdue him they charged him with with with uh manslaughter second degree manslaughter then you got the guy in austin who is driving uber and a far left extremist walks up with a rifle at low ready and aims it, he shoots, going to jail. He got sentenced. That was Perry, I think.

Yeah, and a lot of anarchists have a problem with it because the dude with the AK was an anarchist, but they both had guns, so he just lost a gunfight. Dude, you can't be part of a mob and walk up to a guy in his vehicle with a weapon at low ready with you holding it up, you just can't do that, man. Hands off the weapon.

Yeah, if you're carrying a gun, open carrying a gun, and you have your hands on the grip and you approach someone and they have a gun, it is reasonable for them to be like, oh, this guy's got a gun. I'm going to pull my gun out. Especially when your car's surrounded. Homeboy earned that gun fight. I want to pull up this clip from Dan Bongino. Ryan Fournier has the clip from Dan Bongino.

He says he makes a great point on why it might be a good idea for Trump not to post bail. I'm going to play this clip for you. It's about two minutes long. Hear it right from Dan's mouth. Folks, I don't think the Trump team should post the bomb. I don't.

This may sound like a crazy idea, but folks, we're living in crazy times. And crazy times require different, crazy, bold approaches. Fannie Willis wants to be a smart-ass tyrant, little socialist communist like she is, down in Fulton County, Georgia.

Don't post. Don't post the bond. You want to jail him? Let's elect our first political prisoner. Go ahead. Go to jail. Let the Secret Service shut the entire jail down, and we'll see how long you're willing to keep this charade going.

Let them put him in jail for a bit. Folks, I know it sounds crazy. Let the Secret Service shut that entire floor down because remember, Title 18 USC 3056 and I believe 1752. The Secret Service has the absolute federal authority, the supremacy clause. They can declare anything, a federally protected area, even a prison prison cell they can clear out that entire wing of the prison and make sure donald trump never sees another human being in that prison other than the secret service i wouldn't post you may think it's a crazy idea i don't think so folks you've seen people around the world take a stand like this and it's easy for me to say i get

it i wouldn't be the one in a prison cell but you want to send a message let's see let's see what happens we should hold protests outside of that prison cell every single day don't post don't post the bond make them put you in jail and make them show america their asses and show america they really are. And let's see how long this lasts. Folks, I think the F around and find out the time has long since passed. I agree. He makes them build a whole jail

for him. How crazy it is that we're in this place now where we're talking about the prospect of a former president who's also a leading candidate. I i mean this is really unhealthy it's so crazy it's so completely crazy and the fact that the fact that there are people that are my age like you know well into their 40s that are accepting it blows my mind because i feel like you could i can understand why maybe younger people would because they would be

like they maybe they didn't get like a really good civics education a lot of people don't pay attention to the way that our government structure most people think the president has like you know unlimited power and stuff but like people that were born in the 70s or 80s like you got civics you should know that the what that the how the president has, you know, the authorities, generally the authorities that the president has and that you should know that it's a terrible idea to prosecute your political opponents, your leading political rival. This is this really is like banana republic stuff. It's not just hyper like hyperbolic to say that. And this again, i know people like to give tim crap about saying civil war but when you're when you're arresting your political rivals still i've been saying it for six months now where's the off ramp and because where is it it's not i don't see it and when one of the most prominent voices in support of that of that political figure, says he should accept being jailed

to make a stand and become a political prisoner, political martyrdom, we are moving in only one direction. Now, I think he's right. I think a move like that, first of all, Trump will never do it. Trump does not want to spend

any time in a jail cell. He's going to want to get in and get out. But I think Dan Bongino is correct. If it was anyone other than Trump, perhaps they might be willing to to do it but i don't see trump being willing to do it but if he does this he calls their bluff he forces these prosecutors into a very very dangerous position of now you actually have to jail the front runner for the republican party do you want to be the party that did that i think they should jail him yeah that i because for like for like his his campaign if the charges this is why dan bungean was correct if the charges were legitimate

and they actually thought that donald trump was trying to overthrow the u.s government why would they let him go? What is not is it not like the highest crime in the land to try and destroy the land? Is it not? They're claiming he conspired with a group of individuals to overthrow

the U.S. government. And they're like $20,000 and you can leave? You're a billionaire? It's all over. It's not even a difficult bail for him to post. Bond. It's like, they're $200,000 and we just need 10% of that. It's like, okay, do you want cash?

I got it in my pocket right now. I'm a billionaire. They're not serious. Trump should go there and say, no, I'm not going to pay. You know what I think they'll do? I think they'll say, okay, well, then you don't have to. I think they'll let him go. They will not jail him i was saying before that they should if their charges are are correct i think they want him in jail not now though and i think the reason why

they've been avoiding is they know it'll help his campaign make him a political prisoner make him a martyr martyr yeah political martyr yeah what's crazy is but biden would probably win why do you think why if he was if he was in japan biden only won by 42 000 votes in three states 2020 i think trump is deeply unpopular among wide swaths of society trump he has a really really strong core of support on the right do you think that was true in 2020 i think that lots of people turned out in 2020 but lots of people turned out against in 2020 right so trump lost by 42 000 votes in 2020 do you think trump will gain 42 000 votes or biden could lose 42 000 or any

combination of the two i guess any of those is possible i just think that it's extremely likely he polarizes in a way that no other politician does and so look my point is that all of this is i i think largely unnecessary right and it reveals a needless insecurity on the part of the democratic establishment that they're going to these lengths because about 30 to 50 percent of the republican party really really loves trump another let's say whatever 20 30 percent is strongly supportive and then you have all the others who don't support trump everyone else you know among independents and stuff it becomes much more tenuous his support but it doesn't

matter if we look at the numbers from 2016 trump narrowly won it was i think 70 some odd thousand votes if we look at 2020 he narrowly lost but, but he gained, what, 13 million more votes. Now, Joe Biden got a bunch of votes, I believe, through mostly anti-Trump sentiment, ballot harvesting, ballot chasing. The Democrats may bring back COVID mandates and stuff like that. I don't know. It seems every day we're seeing more and more signs that they're trying to bring back these mandates. But without that, people aren't going to be paying attention not only that if you take a look at the polling even with all the biases attributed that we've we've seen so far look i got i got a million one reasons to tell you why i think

trump is on track to win not saying he will one joe biden won because people hate trump and they did ballot harvesting there was no sports there was no movies you were locked in your house you were angry and trump was the problem he was the reason it was happening to you most but no idea what was going on yeah then then you get uh no the procedural stuff obviously but trump only lost by 42 000 votes despite all that i don't think they're going to be able to i think the democrats are going to lose a million votes this time around, which means if Trump maintains that level of support he gained from 16 to 20, he would win by a couple hundred thousand votes or even a million votes this time around. Because the Democrats don't have support. They have anti-Trump. Considering how bad the economy's gotten under Joe Biden, considering Afghanistan's whether or not that that matters as much as the economy.

You saw Biden's approval rating collapse with the afghanistan debacle he's lost support throughout his first term i don't see why trump would not be able to make up these 42 000 votes this time around it just seems inevitable yeah i think so too um i mean he just left those prisoners of january 6th to rot in prison that's not true what and that doesn't matter to the average person matters to me but it doesn't matter to the average voter he might lose they might both lose votes biden and trump are old man i i i think trump may but i think biden would lose substantially more because they don't have the lockdowns in the ballot harvesting the same way they did before they'll have to gear up the ballot harvesting

but there's a big difference when everyone's forced in their home and they can't leave. You know, you knock on that door. They're there. You say that's that right there. It makes it all go away. Just put Biden and you can go outside. They go, OK, now without lockdowns, they may have to lock things down. You go to someone's house, knock on the door.

No answer. No one's home. You knock on another door and say, hey, that anger you're feeling will all go away. If you vote, they're they're gonna be like what anger the anger i have at biden the economy sucks right oh yeah but donald trump abandoned those j6ers the insurrectionists dude i'm not voting for either of them get on my face what i've seen of the what i described as passively anti-trump folks from 2020 who voted for biden friends and friends and uh family and family friends

they are now passively anti-democrat yeah that's what i'm gonna say and i think it's probably because like you might economic issues trump's not in office there's it's it's not it's not easy to point the blame at him we ain't doing anything he's just sitting complaining so they come to say you see donald trump talking about stuff on the internet and they're like i don't pay attention that guy's not the president they try to make the argument, you see Donald Trump talking about stuff on the internet? And they're like, I don't pay attention. That guy's not the president. They try to make the argument when he was president. Well, he's the president. He's the most important guy.

You got to focus on these things. Now it's like, did you hear about what that septuagenarian guy in Florida said? Who? The former president? Why are you talking about? He's not, Biden's the guy I'm mad about. I think that's going to cost Joe Biden. It's going to go back and forth.

I do want to add, though, as a quick aside, it is absolutely hilarious that after everything Ian has said today about Trump, Hassan Piker called him a conservative. What did he say? Conservatives are awesome or something? Conservatives are cool. And he put sunglasses in my face. He quoted the video of you saying

I won't wear the mask and wrote conservatives are cool. Conservatives are pretty cool, man. The more you hang out with them, the more you'll like them. Yeah, some of them. People are cool sometimes. But I just want to point out, I think that shows that the dude is just legit grifting. Like, that's it. Sorry, guys.

Wait, that's what you mean you think that? Just that? Oh, come on. Like, dude, no sane, rational person thinks Moon Lord is a conservative. Hassan's coming on the show pretty soon, isn't he, Serge? It was a few months ago. I don't know. You said that a while ago.

I've been manifesting it. Everyone put their prayers into action. Let's get Hassan over here. He's going to be on the show right after he fights Sam Hyde. Actual leftists are calling Ian Moon Lord. Yeah. Because if anything, Ian is more like Marianne Williamson. Yes.

Woo-woo crystals than conservative. But this is it. It's a generic response. This is what we're dealing with. It is a piss poor label and I think Phil made a good observation that you know real conservatives conserve liberal principles. So you're both liberal and conservative in your behavior.

I don't think you have to be one or the other. They're not mutually exclusive. I'm very conservative when it comes to like conserving our environment, but i've also used liberally radical technologies to alter our environment in order to conserve it so you know do the math it's not that complicated stop pigeonholing people i love you hassi are you talking about hassan younger cousin yeah Younger cousin. Yeah, I love you, man. I do, actually. He reminds me of Billy Gregg.

I know you're out there, Billy. All right, ladies and gentlemen. It's that time. The first GOP debate is happening. And I can already tell, based on our concurrent viewership, that some of you have already left to go and watch it. By all means. Bang it. Is that not for tucker

yeah that was left for tucker oh okay yeah sorry sorry i did not once did not mean to besmirch the good honor of the people who actually want to watch the tucker trump interview because that one matters i don't think it necessarily makes sense for us to just play that and and talk over it because he's just posting a video on twitter we can all watch it's a video on demand the gop debate is live so we normally do live commentary and correction, but we're not doing it today. Damn. We have this tweet.

Ben Shapiro says, insane. Per Fox News, any media covering tonight's debate are only allowed to post up to three minutes total of the footage. It's about two clips of coverage. And then Mike Cernovich said, pretty funny. Fox News thinks this will force people to watch a debate without trump because obviously we will all turn on the tv all that will happen if people who would have seen uh seen clips on twitter won't this totally cucks all the people debating yeah

big time there's 33 000 people that would tune into you guys via us if you ben shapiro says just helping trump they're actually just helping trump that's it they are they are making it so that no one will hear anything said by any of these other individuals dude fox is terrible business practices they block their employees so they can't do other shows on other networks like yo branch out man you're not in a silo anymore the internet's real their ratings are in the the gutter. What a terrible mismanagement. We should buy that brand, dude. Make Fox great again.

Buy Fox? Yes, I have $50 billion lying around. Sure. Who's running that shit? Who runs that company? What's the market cap for Fox News? It's probably like in the billions. So sad, dude.

Tens of billions. They fired Tucker Carlson and then locked down their distribution process so no one can watch unless you, for whatever reason, want to go to that channel, which you don't. I mean, I don't. I haven't gone to Fox. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. It's $15 billion.

$15. That's not too bad. If I had $15 billion in cash lying around, I could buy Fox News. But I don't. But maybe we launch a give, send, go to buy Fox News and fix it. There's so many Fox anchors I want to have on this show. And it's so annoying. Here's the interesting thing. So for those that don't know, and

maybe this just spikes our negotiations. So my booking team, they're going to get really mad at me for saying this. So for the longest time, Fox, they don't allow their hosts to come on this show. They consider us competition. But they really want me on their shows. They've been asking me to go on their 8 p.m., 9 p.m. slots.

I've been asked like five times, and I'm like, I am live hosting a show at that time. Why would I walk out of my own studio to go on yours? That's insane. Now, I've got to be honest. Maybe for Tucker. If Tucker was live, because we used to be live at the same time as him, and they said, we want to have you on the show, we know it's during your show, what do you think? I'd be like, absolutely.

I'd have you guys handle it for 10 or so minutes, and I'd go talk with Tucker. And I'd say, hey, after you guys finish watching that, you can come check out our show. It's over here. And that's reciprocity. But for the current lineup, I like Jesse Waters. He's a cool dude, but I'm not. That's ridiculous. But now, they're ridiculous. But I,

but now they're starting to give in and they're discussing allowing their hosts to appear on, on the show. It's great publicity for Fox. Well, and they desperately need it. Now that the ratings are in the gutter because they lost the only, only reason anybody actually watches their network. Yeah,

seriously, dude, the amount I want to watch. So we can watch three minutes of this debate do you guys want to watch three minutes of it and shut up i don't you don't want to i would i would love to i just want to see what it is i feel like if we turn on the debate we're going to see them watching tucker and trump nick nicky haley really speaks for the debate stage nicky haley who else is debating tonight it's uh it's d? Doug Burgum broke a leg or something.

Oh, he's not going to be there. Mike Pence. What's his name? Scott. Tim Scott. Tim Scott's going to be there. I hear things about Tim Scott. Doug Burgum is in.

Torn Achilles tendon and all. That's brutal, man. I felt that. He's playing basketball and he tore his Achilles? Oh, man. That's a long hey. PRP. Platelet-rich plasma. That might That's a long hey. Get well soon, man. Platelet-rich plasma. That might help.

Yep. Yep. Get well soon, bro. That sucks. You know, I just honestly, I just don't care about the debate. Eric Spracklin says, Justin, Trump campaign senior advisor.

President Trump has already won this evening's debate because everything is going to be about him. That's 100%. Only President Trump has the policy ideas, the fortitude, and the polling to go head-to-head with crooked joe biden in the general election republican voters recognize this hence president trump's 62 to 16 lead in the primary you should also expect the fox host to show an unnatural obsession with trump tonight asking other republican candidates over and over to react to trump's policy positions

in fact we will be tallying the number of times president trump's name is brought up and his total speaking time even though he is not in attendance. When the other candidates do get a chance to speak, there will be a faint echo or maybe even a copycat of President Trump's Make America Great Again agenda. That's because President Trump's first four years in office were the most consequential and led to the best economy in American history. Nobody at tonight's gathering can match the big ideas on the bold policies agenda policy agenda trump has already laid out in the run-up to 2024 including details on how he will reduce inflation unleash american energy seal the border and destroy the drug cartels clean up our crime-ridden streets and stop the killing in ukraine in fact tonight's

republican undercard event undercard event really shouldn't even be called a debate but rather an audition to be part of the president trump's team in a second term i like that undercard that's clever yeah but it's a disgusting undermining of the democratic process this is legitimately a debate talking about these guys are presidential candidates yeah i mean this is a lot of bloviating about how great trump is like no one can compare with his statement about himself what's he gonna no this is a statement released by president president trump if i launch his official statement i'm not that good everybody i'm doing an okay job perhaps but maybe you shouldn't vote for me that's from chris lasit lasivita yeah it's a senior senior advisor is that it's from anyone else is there anyone else this is from this is from chris

lasivita this isn't it's the trump campaign he's gonna he's gonna pump himself up but i mean it's out of touch he doesn't know he hasn't been listening to the next plan if he doesn't think that anyone imagine a salesman come in your house and being like i have these vacuum cleaners they're okay i guess yeah but if you're lying if you come to my house and you know that a vacuum cleaner is not as good as another one and you're like this one's better welcome i'm gonna be like okay you're a liar get out. Do you think that Donald Trump believes that the vague has better policy plans than Trump? Donald Trump.

When Donald Trump says, I don't know. When Donald Trump says I have the greatest everything, he is not making it up. Now I don't agree with him, but he believes it. So like, you can't expect Donald Trump to be like, well, you know, I'm great, but man, the vague, just because you like Vivek, I get it. You like it. But that doesn't mean Donald Trump's going to be like, oh, man.

Trump doesn't need to debate Vivek because Vivek is essentially a Trump surrogate at the debate. He's basically trying. He's going to hit DeSantis most because he's aiming for some sort of senior role in the administration. And good for him for that. But, you know, I'm just wondering, besides Trump and Vivek, if any of them is willing to even say seriously that they're for settling down in Ukraine, right? Of a kind of negotiated settlement. We're not going to keep sending money. Trump said that he says he's going to bring peace in 24 hours. I think Vivek largely echoes Trump on Ukraine.

But I think all the rest of them are actually hawkish and they won't quite say it because they know it's unpopular do you think so really luke i mean they're all they're all for they're all all in luke is at the rnc debate and he posted a photo of himself watching tucker carlson oh wow well i kind of look at this as trump ducking and running and hiding from a debate i mean maybe you guys say he doesn't have to do it, but it's like pathetic in my opinion. He could be there and he could explain these things to these people. He could make fun of whoever he wanted to make fun of. Instead, he just shied away.

He would literally just get up there and S-post all night long. Like, that's all Trump does. You just get up there and shitpost all over it. Yeah, I just feel like he'd outshine everybody. I think it's, honestly. I feel like an alien outshine everybody i think it's honestly if you have any i feel like an alien on this planet sometimes if you have any care about hearing the other people on that stage you don't want trump there exactly like there there is more chance of the other

people talking without trump there and talking about their own ideas than if trump is there if trump is there first of all they're all going to be talking about trump more than they're going to already right because he's going to be he's going, first of all, they're all going to be talking about Trump more than they're going to already. Right. Because he's going to be he's going to be in their presence and he's going to be interrupting and talking over everybody. If you actually care about hearing the other people, it's better for Trump to not be. Have you heard Vivek interrupt and talk over people because he give Trump a run for his money? And I would love to hear him humiliate Trump about his inability to cancel the deep state. Like the guy told us for four years he was going to fire the deep state.

He didn't do it because he didn't know how. And his advisors told him he couldn't. And his advisors turned out to be deep state. This is the guy that people actually think they want for president is someone that was snowed by the deep state that fell for it. You want that guy? No, you don't. You want a guy that sees through it. Yeah, but it was the first time.

Fool me once. There is no second. Should we pull it up? Fool me once. Get out of office. You were me once there is no second should we pull it up fool me once get out of office you were full get out should we pull it up i mean people were saying that crowder was risking it i don't know it's not just crowder tons of people are doing it i don't care also it's not it's not that i'm worried like i like i said we have a fair use argument they can't say that we're not allowed to listen to politicians it's it's it's the most newsworthy thing in a mad imaginable it's that it's just like... Yeah, I don't know.

Am I going to be like, oh, wow, look what Nikki Haley just said. Well, I mean, we could dunk, but I mean, if we come up with anything funny to say, but you know, I mean... It's definitely risky. Ian wants to see it. Oh, there he is, dude. The man. Who the heck is this

skinny guy with a funny last name and what the heck is he doing in the middle of this debate stage? I'll tell you, I'm not a politician, Brett. You're right about that. I'm an entrepreneur. My parents came to this country with no money 40 years ago. I have gone on to found multiple... Oh, this is cringy.

It's probably got so many people watching. I did it while married to my wife before, though. Raising our two sons. What if we comment on Fow commentary and i am genuinely worried that that american format will not exist for our two sons and their generation unless we do something about the stage format debate crap where no one's he's not even talking to anybody yet so there's no debate happening you know i know he's just a politician. You're the one who wanted to watch this, Ian. I want to see what it was like. From something. Now is our moment

to start running to something. To our vision of what it means to be an American today. If you have a broken car, you don't turn over the keys to the people

who broke it again. You hand it over to a new generation to actually fix the problem. That's why I'm in this race and we're just getting warmed up. All right. To you, Governor Haley. So why are you better positioned to turn around this economy that we've heard all

of these voters talking about tonight than Mr. Ramaswamy, who is a successful entrepreneur nationally right now? He's beating you in the polls. Well, I don't care about polls. What I care about the fact is that no one is telling the American people the truth. The truth is that Biden didn't do this to us. Our Republicans did this to us too. When they passed that $2.2 trillion COVID stimulus bill, they left us with 90 million people on Medicaid, 42 million people on food stamps. No one has told you how to fix it. I'll tell you how to fix it. They need to stop the spending. They need to stop the borrowing. They need to eliminate the earmarks that Republicans brought back in. And they need to make sure they understand these are taxpayer dollars.

It's not their dollars. And while they're all saying this, you have Ron DeSantis, you've got Tim Scott, you've got Mike Pence. They all voted to raise the debt. And Donald Trump added $8 trillion to our debt. And our kids are never going to forgive us for this. And so at the end of the day, you look at the 2024 budget, Republicans asked for $7.4 billion in earmarks. Democrats asked for $2.8 billion. So you tell me who are the big spenders. I think it's time for an accountant in the White House.

Vice President Pence. High energy Mike Pence. Oh, no. High energy Mike Pence. Fox News democracy. 54% of voters say the cost of groceries is a quote, major problem for them. You blame the Biden administration's spending for that increase. But as vice president,

your administration spent more than any prior $7.8 trillion added to the national debt, $3.5 trillion of that before COVID. So does that mean that you're part of the spending problem? Well, first off, thanks for the question. Thanks for letting me respond to a reference to our administration's record. I'm incredibly proud of the record of the Trump-Pence administration. Wow. I mean, in four short years, we rebuilt our military. We revived our economy.

We unleashed American energy. And we appointed three conservatives to the Supreme Court. This guy's useless. Yeah. Useless. That's an understatement, bro. It gave the American people a new beginning

for the right to lie. He's the most fortunate in Washington. He's so wrong. He's got to answer your question. Martha, you're disappointed that it's not pure vivace show. He's the most best prepared for this job. And I must tell you, with all due respect to all of my friends on the stage, and even to one that's probably looking on, I think unquestionably I am the best

prepared, the most tested, the most qualified and proven conservative in this race. I was a leader in the Congress of the United States. I led Indiana where we balanced budgets and had a AAA bond rating when I was governor. And as vice president of the United States, we spent funding to backfill on the military cuts of the Obama administration, and then we were there in the worst pandemic in 100 years. All that being said, I was the first person in this race to say that we've got to deal with the long-term national debt issues. You've got people on this stage that won't even talk about issues like Social Security and Medicare. Vivek, you recently said a president can't do everything. Well, I've got news for you, Vivek.

I've been in the hallway. I've been in the hallway i've been in the west wing a president of the united states has to confront every crisis facing america i will put our nation back on the path to growth and prosperity and restore fiscal responsibility just as i did in congress this is like governor mr vice president a bonkers things to say about social security social security is popular among republican voters by like two to one american energy everyone else is like overwhelming coal embrace nuclear put people back to work by no longer paying them more to stay at home reform the u.s fed stabilize the u.s dollar and go to war the only war that i will declare as u. dollar and go to war. The only war that I want to declare as U.S.

president will be war on the federal administrative state that is the source of those toxic regulations. We're talking about cutting and privatizing the economy. I'm not sure I exactly understood Mike Pence's comment, but I'll let you all parse that out. For me, it's pretty simple. That's something a U.S. president can do with focus, and I'll deliver on it. Well, let me explain it to you. Let me explain it to you if I can. I'll go slower this time. You know, I sometimes struggle with the reading comprehension. Look, I was a House conservative leader before it was cool.

I actually pushed the Deficit Reduction Act. That was the last time we actually reduced the national debt in the United States. When I was the leader of House conservatives, I balanced budgets and cut taxes when I was governor. I mean, look, Joe Biden has weakened this country at home and abroad. Now is not the time for on-the-job training. We don't need to bring in a rookie.

We don't need to bring in... You're just calling yourself old, man. Sorry. You know. It's 30 seconds when you have a rebuttal, okay? And you are up, Governor DeSantis. You're just calling yourself old, man. Sorry. Who knows? Hold on. It's 30 seconds when you have a rebuttal, okay? And you are up, Governor DeSantis. So here's the thing.

Why are we in this mess? Part of it and a major reason is because how this federal government handed COVID-19 by locking down this economy. It was a mistake. It should have never happened. And in Florida, we led the country out of lockdown. We kept our state free and open. And I can tell you this. As your president, I will never let the deep state bureaucrats lock you down. You don't take somebody like Fauci and coddle him.

You bring Fauci in. You sit him down. And you say, Anthony, you are fired. He knows that COVID is his talking point, so he hit it hard. We're going to bring in Mike. I just want to respond to Mike for one second because he invoked me back. Listen, now that everybody's gotten their memorized, pre-prepared slow. Well, that was fun.

Come on, Rumble. It gets out of the way. We can actually have a real discussion now. 200,000 viewing. The reality and the fact of the matter is. Was that one of yours? Not really, Mike was fun. Come on, Rumble. We can actually have a real discussion now. 200,000 viewing. The reality and the fact of the matter is... Was that one of yours? Not really, Mike, actually. We're just going to have some fun tonight.

And the reality is, you have a bunch of people, professional politicians, super PAC puppets, following slogans handed over to them by their 400-page super PACs last week. The real choice we face in this primary is this. Do you want a super PAC puppet, or do you want a patriot who speaks the truth? Do you want incremental reform, which is what you're hearing about, or do you want revolution? OK, and I stand on the side of the American revolution. We're going to take control back here. We need everyone to have a moment on the economy.

I think that's fair. Can I address the COVID issue? We're going to get back to that. No. That's from Governor Brigham and then from Governor Hutchinson on the economy, sir. Well, great. Thank you, Martha. And of course, I'm from a town of 300 people. It's a big deal to make it on this stage with all these folks. But didn't he do that? Is he the guy who offered those gift cards? I think so, yeah. Yeah, he offered gift cards and said, I'll give you a gift card if you donate to me so you get your money back.

That way I can get on the debate stage. And Larry Elder's not even here. But I do want to say on this, we're missing something. We can't just talk about the Biden economy because the economy, energy, and national security are all tied together. Of course, we're paying too much for our energy in our country right now. But part of the reason why is because the Biden policy is on energy. We've got a plan right now, the $1.2 trillion of Green New Deal spending buried in the Inflation Creation Act is something that is just subsidizing China. If we're going to stop buying oil from the Middle East and start

buying batteries from China, we're just trading OPEC for Sinopec. And then belatedly, belatedly, the Biden administration says, no, we're going to put sanctions on Russian oil. Well, we put sanctions on Russian oil. Well, then it's 20% off. Who's buying it? China. So if you buy a battery in this country, you buy a solar panel, it's being produced in a plant in China powered by coal, or it's being powered by oil and gas at 20% off. And every farmer in this country would like to buy diesel at 20% off, just like they're buying it in China. I like the game show chimes here. Thank you, Grant. Delighted to be here tonight. And let me just tell you that I'm a pro-life governor from a conservative state that have a conservative

record in which I lowered taxes in Arkansas as governor. I created a $2 billion surplus that I passed off to my successor, and I made sure that we shrunk the size of government. We have 14% Yeah, I'm just going to tune this down for a second. I'm just going to say, you know, this is why I didn't want to do this these guys are completely irrelevant and us, I'm not going to pretend I care what he's saying I'm not going to be like, oh, here's a guy

he's crazy, it's irrelevant you know, look, no disrespect to the local guy who runs a gas station, but I'm not going to do a full episode of TimCast IRL talking about the opinions of the guy who runs the gas station yeah, this is a lot like 2008 Democratic debates where there's like 13 people. Only three of them were relevant. You had Obama, Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden was like the number three loose wheel.

And they gave Barack and Hillary kind of like Vivek and Mike Pence and probably DeSantis are going to be talking the most. Put Vivek and Ron on Joe Rogan. Done. We'll have that conversation. They can talk about it and we can figure out who's better for VP. But that's it. And, you know, my attitude, I changed it to

GOP debate for the YouTube because my attitude is like either we just don't do the show. It's like we wrap up and say, all right, go watch it. But it's like, oh man, it's so tough because it is a debate that Vivek and Ron might end up saying something. But it's just like, do we got to sit here for an hour and a half to hear the 10 minutes of Twitter clips later on? What I like seeing is technically only seven more minutes and you can start super chats.

I like the confidence. But it's like either we are going to show what's going on in the news or we just wrap it up and say, all right, everybody, we're going to take the rest of the night off and go enjoy a nice cold one somewhere. So Rab's already enjoying a nice cold one. I am, yes. Ultra right. Is it good? Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's nice.

Polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change. Oh my God. This on the Republican Party. Calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change. So we want to start on this with a show of hands. Do you believe in human behavior is causing climate change? Raise your hand if you do.

Look, we're not schoolchildren. Let's have the debate. I mean, I'm happy to take it to start. Alexander, do you want to raise your hand? That's badass. Who was that? Ron? First of all, one of the reasons our country's declined is because of the

way the corporate media treats Republicans versus Democrats. Biden was on the beach while those people were suffering. It's nuanced. I'll give you an answer, but we are polluting, but I don't trust these guys. You've got to be activated. You've got to be there.

You've got to be present. You've got to be helping people. The climate's changing, but I know they're calming us so they can take control of the economy. Is that a yes? Is that a hand raise? You do not. I think it was a hand raise for him, and my hands are in my pockets. Let us be honest as Republicans. raise? You do not. I think it was a hand raise for him and my hands are in my pockets.

Let us be honest as Republicans. I'm the only person on the stage who isn't bought and paid for so I can say this. The climate change agenda is a hoax. That's ridiculous. The climate change agenda is a hoax. The fake's entertaining. There we go. The anti-carbon agenda is the wet

blanket on our economy. The reality is more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change. Governor Haley, are you bought in May for? Hold on, hold on. They're all mad at us for being bought in May for. Hold on, hold on. I've had enough.

I've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like Chat GPT Standing up here What does it even mean dude? The latest person in one of these debates Who stood in the middle of the stage and said What's a skinny guy with an odd last name Doing up here Was Barack Obama

And I'm afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur Barack won That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. He won twice. The amateur. God. Yeah. Man.

The same type of amateur. This is where you're going to lose, Chris Christie, right there. Would you like to respond? So, Brad, what I would like to say is the fact that I think this is exactly why Margaret Thatcher said, if you want something said, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman.

That'll go well with the Republicans. Yeah, you know, they love Thatcher. Do you care about clean air, clean water? We want to see that taken care of. But there's a right way to do it. And the right way to do it is, first of all, yes,

is climate change real? Yes, it is. But if you want to do it. And the right way to do it is, first of all, yes, is climate change real? Yes, it is. But if you want to go and really change the environment, then we need to start telling China and India that they have to lower their emissions. That's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. And these green subsidies that Biden has put in, all he's done is help China because he doesn't understand all these electric vehicles that he's done. What that does, half of the batteries for electric vehicles are made in China. And so that's not helping the environment. You're putting money in China's pocket. And Biden did that.

So, first of all, I think we need to acknowledge the truth, which is these subsidies are not working. We also need to take on the international world and say, OK, India and China, you've got to stop polluting. And that's when we'll start to deal with climate change. Senator Scott, are you bought and paid for? Absolutely. Yeah, I'd like to have her on the show.

Are you bought and paid for? I'm sorry? Are you bought and paid for? Absolutely not. I mean, here's what the American people deserve is a debate about the issues that affect their lives. Going back and forth, being childish is not helpful to the American people to decide on the next leader of our country. Wait a second. So that's a Donald Trump. being childish is not helpful to the American people to decide on the next leader of our country. Number one, wait a second.

So that's a Donald Trump. As a kid who grew up in a single parent household, mired in poverty, I wondered, was the American dream real for kids who are devastated by poverty, devastated by the challenges of life? I came to the conclusion that America can do for anyone what she's done for me if we focus on restoring hope, creating opportunities, and protecting America. If we want the environment to be better, and we all do, the best thing to do is to bring our jobs home from China. If we create 10 million new jobs in my Made in America plan, we will have a better economy and a better environment.

Let me tell you why I say that, Brett. I hate politicians, man. Dude, I am with you. America has cut. I'm a southern boy. I talk slow. So America, America, that was quick. America has cut our carbon footprint in half in the last 25 years. The places where they are continuing to increase, Africa, 950 million people, India over a billion, China over a billion. Why would we put ourselves at a disadvantage, devastating our own economy? Let's bring our jobs home. We have a lot of different topics to get to. Yeah, we do. We thank you all. Thank you, Senator Scott. So coming up next, the candidates will weigh in

on what could be a defining issue in the 2024 campaign. It's such a Fox News debate. The first Republican debate continues. You don't have time for commercials.

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and how we show them that we care. We're going to stand up for the unborn in Washington, D.C. And if you cannot do that, you should not be the nominee for the Republican Party. I just think it's all trash. Yeah, Tim Scott said we're up here to do policies. They don't want to see this tit-for-tat childish back and forth. Yeah, they do. That's why Donald Trump

won. It's because he went tit-for-tat childish crap with Hillary Clinton. I don't think i could constitutionally like tolerate any more of that but i will say that of that few minutes that we all subjected ourselves to the one thing that came across is like vivek is the interesting one yep yeah he's like the veep okay i just think that's natural and i think he's setting himself up, never attacking Trump, but definitely attacking the others, especially Ron DeSantis. He just came across funny and interesting.

I don't care if you can't win without doing this, but when Tim Scott's like, my made-in-America plan, I'm like, nope, you lost me. I'm out. I just hate all of that. It's like, I put together a three-point plan called the american patriot plan and i'm like yeah you really just got to answer the question that's just me though

i live in a weird political bubble and i'm sure regular people who don't pay attention to anything they're sitting there with their beers drinking their bud light going main america plan that sounds pretty good that's it that's what they hear that you have you guys ever seen uh there's two movies there's bulworth have you guys ever seen no no yeah that's kevin costner yeah no that's about uh not kevin costner no no i mean it's about a um politician not kevin is depressed he's running for the guy dick tracy warren baity yeah he's super depressed and so he orders a hit on himself and then because he's just given up he just starts telling the truth and there's a scene where he goes to a black church and they're like you said you were going to come in and help us

after the rise but you never did what happened and he's like well to be honest we all came in here gave our speeches asked for donations and then we forgot about it and they're like what are you saying the democrats don't care about the black vote he goes isn't that obvious the movie's so good and then he and then he decides he wants to live but then there's also um that that there's that movie uh with matt damon uh what's that it's the movie where team america where you know uh it's the one where the guys have the books and they're like interdimensional beings that dictate your life dang that sounds cool that sounds like a really good movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like he's trying to, he meets this woman, but he wasn't supposed to.

And they keep trying to redirect his life so he can't meet her. Everybody, you guys know what I'm talking about. What's that movie called? Someone give me the answer to this question. I got to wait here. Not until someone gives me. The Adjustment Bureau. So in this movie, he's a politician.

And he does this thing where he like, he's like, see this tie? We paid $10,000 for a consultant to tell me that you guys like blue because that's what we do and the thing is this this like natural behavior that he has they act like he's being honest but it's still just a part of his shtick he's doing the i'm gonna be the honest politician here and it's all just one big bit i I would love to be on a debate stage like that because I'd have no intention of winning, no desire to win. I would just tell them all to shut the fuck up.

That'd be sick. I just beg, made in America plan, that sounds like bullshit. What did you, come on, dude. I just, you're, you're, no one, no one, no one watching this is going to learn anything relevant. No. No one, no one watching it is going to understand the position of anybody. It's WWE.

Chris Christie being like, a guy standing center stage with a weird name. What are you talking about? Oh, come on. Yeah. You know, to be fair, Trump started it. It's kind of racist, actually, for him to say that. It is. Trump started it, though.

Yeah. Well, no, no, that's not fair. Trump perfected it. Yeah, because Hillary Obama was kind of doing it in 08 like he was laughing he wouldn't take anything they said too seriously and then he just kind of talked past him and then get to his point and it was entertaining it was really entertaining to watch and i wanted him to win ahead of time beforehand so i was kind of on his on his side no you're right you're right that's he was i feel i feel bullied into having to watch the gp debate you're right. You're right. I feel bullied into having

to watch the GOP debate. You're going to dream about it tonight, and I apologize for that ahead of time. You're bullied. Yeah. I held in urine to watch it, and now I'm going to go release that. Is there no audio yet? I wouldn't take it anymore. Oh, I brought it in. I wasn't sure. Oh, Christy and Vivek, dude.

I can control the volume. I never knew I needed it. I wasn't sure if we were dropping back in or not. I'm like slammed up on this one. Abortion rights in this country. And even in red states, there are more swing state referendums that are coming up as we head into the elections as well on this. So, Governor Haley, what do you say to your party and to your state, which today confirmed a six-week abortion law as well, especially the impact on women suburban voters across this country. Thank you, Martha.

I am unapologetically pro-life, not because the Republican Party tells me to be, but because my husband was adopted and I had trouble having both of my children, so I'm surrounded by blessings. Having said that, we need to stop demonizing this issue. This is talking about the fact that unelected justices didn't need to decide something this personal because it's personal for every woman and man. Now it's been put in the hands of the people. That's great.

When it comes to a federal ban, let's be honest with the American people and say it will take 60 Senate votes. It will take a majority of the House. So in order to do that, let's be honest with the American people and say it will take 60 Senate votes. It will take a majority of the House. So in order to do that, let's find consensus. Can't we all agree that we should ban late-term abortions? Can't we all agree that we should encourage adoptions? Can't we all agree that doctors and nurses who don't believe in abortion shouldn't have to perform them? Can't we all agree that contraception should be available and can't we all agree that we are not going to put a woman in jail or give her the death penalty if she gets an abortion why let's treat this like the like a respectful issue that it is and humanize the situation and stop demonizing the situation

they're cheering i mean the whole asking to stop demonizing is like let's just not do politics abortion ban in florida uh one of your biggest financial hackers said that you need to quote shift to get moderates or you will lose what do you say to him and others who say politically that is a tough thing to sell nationally well i would say we sold uh the biggest election landslide victory in the history of the Republican Party in the state of Florida in 2022. That's what I did. We can win. But second of all, look, you got to do what you think is right. I believe in a culture of life. I was proud to sign the heartbeat bill. I remember the most impactful moments of my life

was when I heard the heartbeat of my oldest daughter in my wife's womb and then saw the sonograms of all three of my kids. What the Democrats are trying to do on this issue is wrong to allow abortion all the way up to the moment of birth. I know a lady in Florida named Penny. She survived multiple abortion attempts. She was left discarded in a pan. Fortunately, her grandmother saved her and brought her to a different hospital. We're better than what the Democrats are selling. We are not going to allow abortion all the way up till birth, and we will hold them accountable for their extremism. But just to be clear, Governor, would you sign a six-week

ban federally? I'm going to stand on the side of life. Look, I understand Wisconsin is going to do it different than Texas. I understand Iowa and New Hampshire are going to do different. But I will support the cause of life as governor and as president. Vice President Pence, you're shaking your head. We must have a national... Hold on, hold on, hold on, Senator. Vice President Pence, you're shaking your head.

Well, look, I'm not new to this cause. After I gave my life to Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, I opened up the book and I read, Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. And see, I set before you life and death, blessings and curses, now choose life. And I knew from that moment on the cause of life had to be my cause. And I've been a champion for life in the Congress, a champion for life as governor and as vice president. And to be honest with you, Nikki, you're my friend, but consensus is the opposite of leadership. When the Supreme Court returned this question to the American people,

they didn't just send it to the states only. It's not a states only issue. It's a moral issue. And I promise you, as president of the United States, the American people will have a champion for life in the Oval Office. Can't we have a minimum standard in every state in the nation that says when a baby is capable of feeling pain, an abortion cannot be allowed. A 15-week ban is an idea whose time has come. It's supported by 70% of the American people but it's going to take unapologetic leadership, leadership that stands on principle and

expresses compassion for women in crisis pregnancies. I'll do that as President of the United States. He called my name. Blah blah blah. blah. So first of all, I will say. People who will never go anywhere near the White House. And that's where it should be. But when you're talking about a federal ban, be honest with the American people. We haven't had 45 pro-life senators in over 100 years. So no Republican president can ban abortions any more than a Democrat president can ban all those state laws. Don't make women feel like

they have to decide on this issue when you know we don't have 60 Senate votes in the House. 70% of the American people support legislation. I'm sorry, these people, it's like listening to my buddies over at the bar

arguing about the politics. It's particularly Mike Pence. He's terrible. So right now, the Tucker Carlson show has got 73.7 million views. I gotta be honest. I probably should have just

said, hey, we're gonna call it early, everybody, and go watch Tucker talk to Trump. We could pull up a little bit of Tucker Trump. But it's a VOD. There's no reason to do that. You watch it at your own discretion. This is live. So that's where it is right now. Bergham. Don't forget Bergham. The question everyone's asking themselves right now.

New Jersey, I think a few others that allow abortion up until the time of birth, though, if you were president, would you be able to abide that? Well, first of all, I'm a pro-life governor of a very pro-life state. And this issue is, of course, very important. But I am on the record and I stand behind that we should not have a federal abortion ban. We should not. And the reason why we shouldn't is very simple. It's the 10th Amendment.

What does that mean? In the Constitution. In the Constitution, which the states... Oh, he has a pocketbook. What does he mean by ban? Is he saying, like, a a 15 week ban is a ban? The same as he's saying that it should that it shouldn't be federal. It's not a federal. It should be a state. The states.

Right. Or he's wrong. Or to the people. The 14th Amendment. Individual human rights supersedes this. We can't have we can't have Republicans who fight for 50 years for this great cause and when we turn it back to the states. And then the next day they turn around and go,

no, the feds should do that because the feds are stepping into people's lives. They're stepping into people's businesses over and over. Let me help you out, Governor. The Supreme Court said it's not a question of the Supreme Court. The legislature has an opportunity to legislate. That is not as, it's just the states. It is not a question of the Supreme Court to pass. Exactly right.

It's all going to go to the states. Yes, and what people are just... These people who work in New York will never work in North Dakota, and vice versa. I think the engine went for President. At some point I will. This is too important of an issue that I have to address. First of all, the Supreme Court gave it back to the elected representatives, whether it's the states or whether it's the United States Congress. So there is authority.

And that's why President Biden is pushing for a Democrat proposal, which is, in essence, abortion on demand through the term. So they have their extreme position at a national level. We, it's most likely going to be addressed in the states, but it's certainly fine for it to be addressed at the national level as well. Arkansas has the record of being the most pro-life state in the nation. I signed 30 pro-life pieces of legislation while I was governor. And every state can determine a different outcome here. And it is the most important issue for women and for the unborn child and for our country that we get this

right. It's going to be a continued debate. Let's talk about it in terms of compassion, in terms of protecting the life, and also understanding how we have to enhance abortion, excuse me, adoption services, how we have to enhance maternal care. Those things we've done in Arkansas and are important for our nation's future. There are a lot of issues that are very important. Senator, I'll let you weigh in. We cannot let states like California, New York, and Illinois have abortions on demand up until the day of birth. That is immoral. It is unethical. It is wrong.

We must have a president of the United States who will advocate and fight for, at the minimum, a 15-week limit. I am 100% pro-life conservative. I am 100% pro-life conservative. I have 100% pro-life record. I got to tell you, though, we must fight for life. Our Declaration of Independence says our creator gave us inalienable rights that include life.

Vocal fry. That is an issue. I like Tim Scott, but this performance is losing me. You just need to bang. We can't leave it to Minnesota. We can't leave it to Illinois. We must solve that issue with a 15-week limit. I hate that fake.

Trust me. Oh, it's so annoying. It's for someone to ask Biden and Kamala Harris, are they for 38 weeks? Are they for 39 weeks? Are they for 40 weeks? Because that's what the media needs. She keeps talking about Biden, which is her big flaw.

America and the crime crisis, the homelessness crisis. American cities are in decline. People are moving out as homelessness, drugs, crime move in. There are problems accelerated. They did accelerate during the pandemic and are still rising, actually. Murders in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, all up 30 percent between 2019 and 2022. Homelessness is up 11 percent, the largest jump in recorded history. Wow. Vice President Pence, a lot of this began in the COVID era. How much of what we're seeing happening around this country

is a result of those COVID lockdowns? And is your administration in part to blame for how we got here? Well, I think what's in part to blame is the Democrats been talking about defunding the police for the last five years. And we ought to be funding law enforcement, particularly in our major cities at at unprecedented levels made it extraordinary to think about the violence and i got to tell you right now there's a simple solution and it's not cops who are willing to arrest a

random guy because he defended himself versus cops unwilling to arrest a guy looting a nike store it's that we gotta get these horrible prosecutors the source prosecutors out of there and let people start defending themselves as they as we used to. What we need is strong commitment. Nothing makes the police feel less motivated to arrest people than knowing that if they arrest people, go through all the effort of doing the paperwork and booking them and then they're just going to be let out again. Marshal the resources of the states, marshal the resources of the American people. But let me also say it's about opportunity.

Everyone's starting to come back. It was 45-minute Tucker Trump, and now we're at 945, so the viewers are coming back. Welcome back, everyone. And a Republican House and a Republican Senate. When I'm president of the United States, we're actually going to cut taxes further. We're going to extend those tax cuts, and we're going to close the Federal Department of Education, block grant all that funding back to the states with a growing economy and educational choice and law enforcement. We will bring our cities back.

Governor Christie, another issue. This weekend here in Milwaukee, reports say there were 30 shootings and a number of them, including kids. Add that to the big increase in school shootings around the country. You want to know why I would never vote for Christie? Because he's morbidly obese. Yeah. Trump's out of shape, too. That's a big issue.

But what would Christie's Christie substantially worse? You know, I'm proud of the fact that I'm the only person along with Governor Hutchinson up on this stage who can eat a whole dozen Krispy Kremes. I ran the United States Attorney's Office. I ran the fifth largest office in America. I could probably eat a dozen Krispy Kremes. Remember when Trump invited him into the White House and gave every other guest

a choice of what they could eat on the menu? But he said, Chris, Christy and I are going to have a meatloaf. Like he forced the meatloaf. So what a President Christie would do is appoint an Attorney General who would instruct

each of the 90... I went to a restaurant, I think it was in Florida, and they had a bread pudding for dessert, but it was actually just a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts mashed into a cube. Yo, it was crazy. And dozen crispy cream donuts mashed into a cube yo it was great and they put icing on it and like they were like dolce de leche and i was like oh that's interesting and i and i cut through it's really thick oh yeah i took a bite i'm like is this a crispy creams

and they were like yes our bread pudding like for real because the the crispy creams are really airy you can smash it down and so they took a dozen and smashed it into a cube. And you didn't realize you were eating a dozen Krispy Kremes when you did that. Whoa. I had no idea. And a little scoop of ice cream, too. That's probably like 2,000 calories. That's just a tiny snack for Chris Christie.

You know, in all seriousness, man, this dude is unhealthy. And I do not respect him at all. I've never really liked the guy. What about a President Ramaswamy? What does a President Ramaswamy do about guns? So the reality is we have a crime wave in this country and we know how to fix it. The question is, do we actually have the spine to do it? More cops in the streets who are on the streets able to do their jobs without looking over their shoulder for getting sued.

And we also have a mental health epidemic in this country. Just over the same period that we have closed mental health institutions, we have seen a spike in violent crime. Do we have the spine to bring them back? I think we should as president. I will. But it's not just drugging up people in those psychiatric institutions with Zoloft and Seroquel. Wow. It's a deeper issue. I think faith based approaches can play a role here, too. We're in the middle of a national identity crisis. And I say this as a member of my generation. The problem in our country right now,

the reason we have that mental health epidemic is that people are so hungry for purpose and meaning at a time when family, faith, patriotism, hard work have all disappeared. What we really need is a tonal reset from the top, saying that this is what it means to be an American. Yes, we will stand for the rule of law. Yes, we will close the southern border where criminals are coming in every day.

And yes, we will back law enforcement because we remember who we really are. And that's also how we address that mental health epidemic in the next generation that is directly leading to violent crime i think we need some kind of facility but bring back the beds too the what the beds hospital beds for inpatient involuntary mental health idealistic hard-working people the world has ever known we just need government as good as our people well mike i think the difference is you might have, as some others like you may have on this stage,

it's morning in America speech. It is not morning in America. We live in a dark moment. That's really good. And we have to confront the fact that we're in an internal, sort of cold, cultural civil war. And we have to recognize that people are tackling government in Washington, D.C. That is a pretty good one.

How are you speaking my language? I don't know what that slogan means. civil war. Well, I just speak my language. I don't know what that slogan means. We need to shut down the administrative station. That's actually how we translate it. Crime has been on the rise in Florida, Governor DeSantis. How do you stop crime? Well, actually, crime's at a 50-year low in Florida. We're happy with that.

Not in Miami. That was dirty. So here's the thing. These hollowed out cities, this is a symptom of America's decline. And one of the biggest reasons is because you have George Soros funding these radical left-wing district attorneys. They get into office and they say they're not going to prosecute crimes. They disagree with the inmates start running the asylum. There's one guy in this entire country that's ever done anything about that me when we had two of these district

attorneys in florida elected with soros funding who said they wouldn't do their job i removed them from their post they are gone respect yeah he's actually pretty cool, man. As president, we are going to go after all of these people because they are hurting the quality of life and they are victimizing innocent people in every corner of this country and it will stop when I get into office. The make is great. I think Rob's cool, but he's too partisan.

You asked your question about the problems we're having in big cities. Nobody ever asked the question of what about the crime wave in small towns? Because in a small town, neighbors help neighbors. People understand each other. If a farmer gets sick, everybody comes together and helps him get the crop off. There's accountability. There's transparency. One thing that I think this country could use is somebody in the White House that understands small towns.

Uh-oh. I feel like it's every time I look at the TV. Yeah. So many people watching this right now. Frames drop, stream catches, and oh, is that, the show's over? It's almost 300,000. Pavlovsky's on a call right now like, what is going on?

Town values, because that's our road back to get this country on track again. Yeah, it is. Governor Hutchinson? As former head of the DEA, I understand the drug crisis in America. Right now, whenever you look at the challenges in our inner city, there's three simple words that would be helpful. One, enforce the law when it comes to crime. Secondly, let's deal with the challenge of fentanyl. And it's both about stopping the fentanyl coming from Mexico, but it's also about

education of our young people, making sure that we have the tools that are needed for addiction counseling. That's what we expanded in Arkansas as well. Whenever you look at the underlying challenge of America, though, no one likes to see an America with smash and grab in our inner cities. As president of the United States, that will stop. It starts at the top with the respect for our justice system that a former president who's under indictment has undermined by attacking judges, by attacking prosecutors, by attacking the system and saying he's aggrieved. And so we have to have respect for our justice system and the rule of law. And it starts at the top with the president of the United States. Thank you. Hold on. So speaking of that right right now you are looking live at Fulton County Jail, where former President Donald Trump will be processed tomorrow.

So next, the candidates will have an opportunity to talk about the coming trials of Donald Trump. And now for commercials brought to you by corporations. Look, I got to be honest honest this is exactly what I was saying Vivek will say something we all laugh and we're like wow that was good Ron will say something and I think it's fair to say like wow you know like when he talks about the Soros DA's I'm like that's exactly what I'm talking about and then

they're like and Mike Pence and I'm just like and he takes so much time before he starts talking and then they're like what's the guy's name Burgum is that the guy with the black eyebrowsum, Burgum, Burgum. Is that the guy with the black eyebrows? I guess. He's probably a very nice guy,

but he has no business. How is Larry Elder not on the stage? But these guys are. Someone was saying in the chat that Larry Elder's fire. Why is he not up there? Right. He's great. He's just a truth teller.

You know, he's straight for prevented or didn't qualify for it. That's crazy. Hopefully he's on the next one. I imagine they're going to do lots of these or at least multiple. When is the multiple. I feel

bullied into this. We could have been doing super chats. I got to be honest, guys. I don't think we're going to be able to do a members only because we're going to stick with this. Maybe we can do a breakdown. Oh, just keep it rolling. Yeah, we'll go through it, I guess. You got any super chat? Got a good super chat to read while we got a commercial?

That's a good point. We'll read one of these. here we go we'll grab a super chat jad says pollution and climate change are not the same thing stop conflating them every everyone wants clean air and water should have regulations preventing uh preventing the polluting of groundwater but that's nothing to do with carbon emissions greenhouse gas and climate change that's my that that's that's what my point is the the democrats come out and they say look at all this pollution everywhere and i'm just like okay like what's the impact of that is the mercury causing fisheries to die out are you right are these are things we're concerned about and then ultimately i have a concern that humans pollute a lot. I am not convinced when they say all of this stuff about climate change because these political elites are buying beachfront properties.

And I'm sorry, but you can come out and say every scientist in the world made a claim. And I'm like, yeah, but if the people who are funding your, you know, your institution or doing development for it, or we're voting for these policies, believed anything you said, they would not be buying this property. Banks would not be lo this property banks would not be loaning out 30-year mortgages in miami beach and so i can only say this hey i'm not gonna buy the stocks a scientist tells me to buy i'm gonna buy the stocks nancy pelosi's buying so come at me and tell me about climate change and i'll be like i am listening but nancy pelosi's over here

she's buying nvidia i want i i don't i think they know something when it comes to climate change i have been hearing the same stuff for for my entire life and it is the predictions have failed over and over and over and over there is not a part of me that believes that this is about a climate emergency it is all about an attempt to take control over the economy that is it using not it is not about a climate emergency remember when greta was like we only have three years lies it's it's it's i'll tell you it's in it's entirely possible that there is that there is uh anthropomorphic climate change that humans are affecting it um i might have used that word wrong but either way it's a commercial for electric thank you electric batteries right

now on the debate i'm looking this up what is this but yeah i might look the fact that they're just trying to take over the economy yeah i think climate change is like smell whereas like pollution like what's causing the climate to smell it's the pollution so really the problem is the pollution that's what we should be talking about not not what it smells like if it smells bad in your house you're not like we gotta stop smell we can't have it be smell in here no no i mean the smells good it's gonna smell the climate's gonna change how is the climate changing and that is directly related to the levels of pollution on earth this battery costs three grand is that for patriots.com yeah

as seen on fox and friends i said i was a commercial for it on the on the stream oh now they're doing gold again i'm sorry dude it's it's really that simple here's my advice to all of you every every single time you're asked this question if someone challenges you on climate change my response is always you know i've heard what the scientists have to say, but if I'm going to make an investment, it's going to be where Nancy Pelosi, you know, makes her investments. Right, Brock? You know, all I'm going to do is I'm going to do what Brock Obama does. Like, I trust him. He's the best president ever, right?

You like a Brock Obama. Okay, whatever he does, I'll do. And he's buying Martha's Vineyard beachfront property. So I think I'll be okay and I'll do that. And if you've got if you got a problem with you got a problem with obama that's what i thought maybe it's a little wordy for you to respond to your loved ones you can just feel like i don't know brock obama bought beachfront property so i think i'm good if he ever sells it then i'll sell then i'll then i'll worry but like what's the argument that these democrats actually believe this when they're

they're buying beachfront property there's none they buy they're buying beachfront property they're constantly flying in you know in airplanes and taking private jets etc there is no evidence there's no behavior that would lead you to democracy in this second hour of this gop primary debate policy discussions oh here we go Can we order a pizza or something? I was going to ask if we could do it. You're the boss. You're the one who decides if we can order pizza.

Order whatever they want. We've got chips. And talk about the elephant not in the room. I'm going to get some coffee. Oh, they want to talk about Trump now. The president Trump has been indicted in four different states.

It would be kind of hilarious if Trump rolled in now. Oh, that would be so awesome, dude. The lights just shut off. It's like, oh. WWE. At the Fulton County Jail for charges relating to the 2020 election loss. You all signed a pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee.

If former President Trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice? Please raise your hand if you would. Oh! Vivek stepping forward. Look at the... Oh, did Christie just put his hand up? No.

It's sort of halfway. Yes, Christie did. He just went like this. No, I'm doing this. Look, Christie did. He just went like this. Christie, you were kind of late to the game there, but you're right, John. No, I'm doing this. Look, I'm doing this. And I know you did.

You see, nobody moved. Vivek immediately puts his hand up, and the rest are like... Here's the bottom line. They did. When people start cheering for it, they're like, oh, I'm... None of them were behaving like a leader.

I fucking hate these people, dude. I hate them so much. Vivek, right away, is like, you got it. And then the other people wait to see the response from the audience and then go, ah. You see Ron's little hand come up? Nice wide shot. It pisses me off, dude. I'm sorry.

He's beneath the office of President of the United States. I go like this. I go. Both hands. Get out of my face. And, you know, this is the great thing about this country. Both ends. Get out of my face. And, you know, this is the great thing about this country. Booing is allowed, but it doesn't change the truth.

Oh, shut up. It doesn't change the truth. Mr. Ramoswamy. You going to tell us how it is? Here's the fake, the fake, the fake. I'd like to get in and respond. Let's just speak the truth, okay? President Trump, I believe, was the best president of the 21st century. It's a fact. There's not that many presidents. There's three of them.

Your claim that Donald Trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man. I like the fake so much, man. People blindly bashing Donald Trump without an iota of vision for this country. They could just change the channel to MSNBC right now. I'm not running for president of MSNBC.

I am running for president of the United States. President of MSNBC. And we cannot set a precedent where the party in power uses police force to indict its political opponents. It is wrong. There's a lot of people that are like, just because of his past at the WEF.

You sit here in an answer. You sit here in an answer. He can't even talk. They're just smiling. You sit here and answer. He can't even talk. They're just smiling. You sit here and answer. Christie's ready to leave. Bye-bye. So listen, the more time we spend doing this, the less time we can talk about this.

I think people wouldn't mind if Chris Christie did this. Let's just get through this section. Governor Christie. You sit here talking about how you want to stand up for rule of law and law and order. And the fact is that it can't be selective. In your book, you had much different

things to say about Donald Trump than you're saying here tonight. That's not true. It is very true. It's very true. I read it and I it. By the way, by the way, you know what? I know a lot better. I know a lot better than you do. You've never done it like you've never done anything to try to advance the interests of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate tonight. And here's the thing. We've stood up for law and order. I did it as U.S. attorney.

I did it as governor. And I am not going to bow to anyone when we have a president of the United States who disrespects the Constitution. He said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, Martha, Martha, it's important to say that the president said, Donald Trump said, it's okay to suspend the Constitution. When he was talking, you were hearing him in ambient audio, and then his voice changes and he raises his mic up. What you take is to preserve, protect, and defend, not suspend. I will always stand up for our Constitution regardless of the political pressure.

We have another question for you. We're going to get everyone in on this issue, but I have another question. I have another question. Hold on, you will. All right, so President Trump's former vice president is on this stage tonight. He has faced hecklers on the campaign trail

over his actions on January the 6th. On that day, the vice president moved forward with the certification of the election. So do you believe that Mike Pence did the right thing, Senator Scott? Do you believe he did the right thing? Absolutely. He did the right thing. Number one. Number two.

We should be asking ourselves a bigger question about the weaponization of the Department of Justice. When I'm president, the first thing I'll do is fire Merrick Garland. Secondly, I'll do fire Christopher Wray because we need Lady Justice to wear a blindfold. Without that, no one has confidence in our justice system. 17% of Republicans have confidence in our Department of Justice. Here's why. We keep seeing not only the weaponization of the Department of Justice against political opponents, but also against parents who show up at school board meetings. Sometimes if you close your eyes, he sounds like Bill Clinton.

They're called domestic terrorists. I can hear it. I hear it. Clinton. They're called domestic terrorists. I can hear it. I hear it. Shut down the FBI. Actually, I'm in the courage to get it right. There we go. Interrupt them. As much as it may be irritating to a lot of people, interruption is a power move that gives you more airtime.

The SWAT team show up at pro-life activist homes with guns drawn because this DOJ uses their power, uses their authority, not just against political opponents, but against conservatives and conservative causes. It is time for a change in America, and I will bring that change to the greatest nation on God's green earth. Tim Scott's losing me a lot with the way he's talking. He's cheating.

A bit of an MLK affect there. We need to end the weaponization of these federal agencies. And I will do that. That's not the question. I know, but here's the thing. This election is not about January 6th of 2021. It's about January 20th of 2025, when the next president is going to take office. I know what the Democrats would

like to do. They want to talk about all these other issues, but we've got to focus on your future. We've got to focus on reversing the decline of our country. I learned in the military, I was assigned with U.S. Navy SEALs in Iraq, that you focus on the mission above all else. You can't get distracted. So Republicans, we've got to look forward and we've got to make sure that we're bringing the message that can win. I like the answer. That's a good answer, too. The Vakes was stronger, but that is another good answer, I would say. I'd say also correct. I think the American people deserve to know whether everyone on this stage agrees that I kept my oath to the Constitution like that.

Everyone on this stage should get on their knees. I've answered this before. Mike did his duty. I got no beef with him, but here's the thing. Is this what we're going to be focusing on going forward? The rehashing of this? I'll tell you the Democrats would love that.

We spent gold. And they will win if we let him get away with it. Romero's like, oh shit, he knows who's funding me. Ron shutting down Mike. That was really good.

Let me just say, Governor DeSantis, we spent an hour talking about policy. Former President Trump is beating you by 30, 40 points in many polls. So it is a factor in the GOP primary.

Governor Hutchinson, you did not raise your hand. I did not raise my hand because there's an important issue we as a party have to face. And over a year ago, I said that Donald Trump was morally disqualified from being president again as a result of what happened on January 6th. More people are understanding the importance of that, including conservative legal scholars who says he may be disqualified under the 14th Amendment from being president again as a result of the insurrection. This is something that could disqualify him. I think Luke started that booze. And under the Constitution.

And so, obviously, I'm not going to support somebody who's been convicted of a serious felony or who is disqualified under our Constitution. And that's consistent with RNC rules. And I hope everybody would agree with me. We're going to move on. Martha, can I answer the question? Can I get in on this? Can I get on this? Can I get in on this? Can I get on this?

Vice President Pence. I'd like to answer the question you asked and not give a pre-canned speech. Mike Pence stood for the Constitution. No, he didn't. And he deserves not grudging credit. He deserves our thanks as Americans for putting his oath of office and the Constitution of the United States before personal, political, and unfair pressure. And the argument that we need to have in this party before we can move on to the issues that Ron talked about is we have to dispense with the person who said that we need to suspend the Constitution to put forward his political career. Mike Pence said no, and he deserves

credit for it. Okay. Governor Haley, we haven't heard from you. Did Trump actually tell them to suspend the Constitution? Vice President Pence did the right thing that day or not? I do think that Vice President Pence did the right thing. And I do think that we need to give him credit for that. But what I will also tell you is, look, I mean, when it comes to whether President Trump should serve or not, I trust the American people. Let them vote. Let them decide. But what they will tell you is that it is time for a new generational conservative leader. We have to look at the fact that three quarters of Americans don't want a rematch between Trump and Biden. And we have to face the fact that Trump is the most disliked politician in America.

We can't win a general election that way. I kind of agree with that sentiment. Trump only lost by 42,000 votes. Happy to answer the question. Mike Pence did the right thing on January 6th. But I want to say, you started off the top of this hour saying we're going to talk about China, Ukraine, education. We are.

China is the number one threat to our country. And every minute that these eight candidates spend talking about the past instead of about the future is time. You know who loves it biden loves it but china loves it when we're talking about the past okay as promised we're going to spend a few questions on it let people say what they wanted to say and now indeed we are moving on to the subject the u.s has committed nearly 77 can i speak on this issue i was kind of nice dude nice you did what a piece yeah i thought we thought you were done, but you, please.

Well, Mike, why don't you say this? Join me in making a commitment that on day one you would pardon Donald Trump. I'm the only candidate on this stage who had the courage

to actually say it. That is how we move our nation forward. I don't know why you assume that Donald Trump will be convicted of these crimes. You can't be able

to make a commitment the same justice system that was this corrupt. There's a difference between you and me. I'm not a professional politician. That's the difference. You can answer a question. I've actually given pardons when I was governor of the state of Indiana. It usually follows a finding of guilt and contrition by the individual that's been convicted. Usually. If I'm president of the United States, we'll give fair consideration to important requests. You have the power to pardon no matter what. Even before they're convicted.

Yeah. And there's commutation after conviction. You know, it's not about looking back at January 2021. Oh, he's so slow. It's about January 20th, 2017. I put my left hand on Ronald Reagan's Bible. I raised my right hand. Okay.

And I took an oath. He's got that 7% lock in. To support and defend the Constitution of the United States. And it ended with a prayer, so help me God. It was a promise that I made to the American people, but I also made it

to my Heavenly Father. Every day for four years I sought to keep that oath. And everyone on this stage needs to make it clear whether or not they'll do the same if they earn this job in the confidence of the American people. Look, I've made it clear. I had hoped that the issues surrounding the 2020 election and the controversies around January 6th had not come to this, had not come to criminal proceedings. Oh, come on. I would rather they had been resolved by the American people

and the American people alone. But no one's above the law, and President Trump is entitled to the presumption of innocence that every American is entitled to, and we will make sure and extend that to him. But the American people deserve to know that the President

asked me in his request that I reject or return votes unilaterally power that no vice president american history had ever exercised or taken he asked me to put him off liar richard nixon denied the certified votes and then in 1961 the election liar harris 161. Liar. Lies. Nixon, as VP, was asked whether to take the certified votes or the uncertified ones, and he said uncertified. The U.S. has committed nearly $77 billion in aid to the Ukraine war. The administration is now asking Congress for $24 billion more. Regardless of the specifics of that plan,

is there anyone on stage who would not support the increase of more funding to Ukraine? Not support. Look at Vivek right away, like, yes! So great. Vivek is so great there. He's the only one up there that's acting like a leader. Yep. Who is a leader? Not waiting for the crowd one up there that's acting like a leader. Yep. Who is a leader? Not waiting for the crowd. Yes.

Telling you what he thinks. Everyone is afraid to tell people what they think. And I think we need to do, and I think our support should be contingent on them doing it. And I would have support in China. To be able to take China and do what we need to do with China. Mr. Ramaswamy, you would not support him. Do what we need to do with China. Mr. Ramaswamy, you would not support the realization of Ukraine. I would not. And I think that this is disastrous

that we are protecting against an invasion across somebody else's border when we should use those same military resources to prevent across the invasion of our own southern border here in the United States of America. We are driving Russia further into China's hands. The Russia-China alliance is the single greatest threat we face. And I find it

offensive that we have professional politicians on the stage that will make a pilgrimage to Kiev to their Pope, Zelensky, without doing the same thing. Nice. That's so good. He's good there. We have to put the interests of Americans first. Secure our own border instead of somebody else's. And the reality is, this is also how we project strength by making America strong at home. All right, look, I did go to Ukraine and I went to Ukraine because I wanted to see one for myself. One person.

Putin's army was doing to the free Ukrainian people, bro. And let me tell you that way. I want you all to look around this arena tonight and imagine that every one of these seats was filled. And if every one of them was filled, there would still be twenty five hundred more children outside to make over 20,000 who have been abducted, stolen, ripped from their mothers and fathers, and brought back to Russia to be programmed to fight their own families. They have gouged out people's eyes, cut off their ears, and shot people in the back of the head.

This is exactly the same stuff when it comes to getting to war. I just seen garbage from the G.O. I hate these people so much. Chris Christie is garbage. This is the Vladimir Putin. This is the Vladimir Putin who Donald Trump called

brilliant and a genius. If we don't stand up against this type of autocratic killing, we in the world, we will be next. No. Shut up. I have a question for Governor Haley. We'll come back. Vice President Pence was mentioned. You get 30 seconds. Yeah, well, let me be clear. Anybody that thinks that we can't solve the problems

here in the United States and be the leader of the free world has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on earth. That is incorrect. We can do both. There's limits. We've done both. No one can do everything. We've been the leader of the free world and the arsenal of democracy for years. The Reagan doctrine years ago made it clear. We said, if you're willing to fight the communists on your soil, we'll give you the means to fight them there so our troops don't have to fight them vivek if we do the giveaway that you want to give to putin to give him his land it's not going to be too long for he rolls across a nato border and frankly our men and women i want to let the ukrainian to be fair nato's borders are expanding so rapidly sure perhaps right the news flash the ussr does not

exist anymore it fell back in 1990 wow fantastic and the real communist that we have to address right now is the idea say it say it dude you already just blow him over the real communist re-establish the old Soviet sphere of influence. You've been insulted by calling him a communist. He is a dictator and a murderer. And the United States of America needs to stand against authoritarianism. Mr. Ramaswamy, 30 seconds. The real threat we face today is communist China.

And we are driving Russia further into China's arms. The Russia-China military alliance is the single greatest threat we face. Nobody in either political party is talking about it. And I am the only non-Bernie O'Connor on this stage. But it will keep us out of war. Mr. Vice President, we can't hear Mr. Vice President. Shut his mic off. Give him a promise that Ukraine will never be an economy. Shut his mic off. He's such a trash human.

Look at that guy. And then somehow, China will not think about taking Taiwan. He's the kind of guy that says he's Christian and then is mean to his wife. Nope. Okay, here we go. I think we need to reestablish the ground rules here, folks. When we hear this bell, that means your time's done. We're done.

So, Mr. Vice President, we appreciate your aggressiveness here. 30 seconds is 30 seconds. Mr. Ramaswamy, you were mentioned. You get 30 seconds. So, the reality is that today, Ukraine is not a priority for the United States of America. And I think that the same people who took us into the Iraq War, the same people who took us into the Vietnam War, you cannot start another no-win war.

And I do not want to get to the point where we're sending our military resources abroad when we could be better using them here at home to protect our own borders, protect the homeland. All right. That will be my top priority in foreign policy. I think we gave you more our own borders, protect the homeland. All right. That will be my top priority. I think we gave you more than the 30 seconds in the rebound. So I do want to get to some other people because everybody, we respect everybody's time here. So maybe Governor Haley, you did not raise your hand, meaning that you would support more funding for the Ukraine

war. You have said of Governor DeSantis that you didn't appreciate it when he initially called it a territorial dispute. Why? First of all, the American president needs to have moral clarity. They need to know the difference between right and wrong. They need to know the difference between good and evil. When you look at the situation with Russia and Ukraine, here you have a pro-American country that was invaded by a thug. So when you want to talk about what has been given to Ukraine, less than three and a half percent of our defense budget has been given to Ukraine. Oh, my God. That is way too much. that is way too much good and evil talk is how the u.s got into iraq

yeah shook hands this is all sort of simplistic unlimited partners a win for russia is a win for china we have to know that ukraine is the first line she's kind of dumb a win for russia could be a win for the United States if we did it right. Let China eat Taiwan. He wants to go and stop funding Israel. You don't do that to friends. What you do instead is you have the backs of your friends. Ukraine is a front line of defense. Putin has said, if Russia, once Russia takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next. That's a world war. We're trying to prevent war. Look at what Putin did today.

He killed Progozin. When I was at the U.S., the Russian ambassador suddenly died. This guy is a murderer. And you are choosing a murderer over a pro- You still didn't say he's going to take over Poland and the Baltics. No, how did he kill Progozin? What the fuck is missing? First of all, Mr. Ron Aslami

in 30 seconds, Mr. DeSantis. Nikki, I wish you well in your future career on the boards of Lockheed and Raytheon. Fantastic. You've been pushing

this lie all week, Nikki. Okay, let me address that. I'm glad you brought that up. And the boards of Lockheed.

Pete Hunter's so good. Z'm glad you brought that up. I'm going to address each of those. And the boards of Lockheed. Pete Hunter's so good. Zane. There you have it. Under your watch, you will make America less. You have no foreign policy experience, and it shows. And you know what? It's so shrill. I'm sorry, but that's the word.

It shows in the perilous wars we've gotten into. I have to address that. So our relationship with Israel will never be stronger than by the end of my first term. But it's not a client relationship. It is a friendship. And you know what friends do? Friends help each other stand on their own two feet. So I will lead Abraham Accords 2.0.

I will partner with Israel to make sure Iran never is nuclear armed. But you know what I love about Israel? And I've been there probably in the last 10 years more than most people on this stage But you know what I love about Israel? And I've been there probably in the last 10 years more than most people on this stage. You know what I love about them? I love their border policies. I love their tough on crime policies. I love that they have a national identity and an iron dome to protect their homeland. And so, yes, I want to learn from the friends that we're supporting. And what puzzles me is, no, I want to learn from those and apply those to protect our homeland, line it's not a front line dude they have intercontinental ballistic missiles there's no

front line our country and its people and that means you're sending all this money, but you're not doing what we need to do to secure our own border. We have tens of thousands of people who are being killed because of what we're not handling. And so I am going to declare it a national emergency. I'm not going to send troops to Ukraine, but I am going to send them to our southern border.

When these drug pushers are bringing fentanyl across the border, that's going to be the last thing they do. We're going to use force and we're going to leave them stone cold dead. We're actually going to move on to China. We're going to talk about China. OK. Governor Burgum, China has the biggest navy in the world, the biggest army in the world. Now they have warships, warships off the coast of Alaska. They are threatening Taiwan.

In coming years, China will have 1,500 nuclear warheads, it's believed. The U.S. just arrested two sailors accused of spying for China within our military. So the question is, how would you deter China as a president, Berger? Well, this is the number one issue we're facing. And of course, we haven't been talking about it. And we act like that letting Russia win in the Ukraine is like a gimme as opposed to a gift to China. Russia has become China's gas station.

But how would we do it? The Biden administration is a complete fail. China imports 10 million barrels of oil a day more than any other country in the world. They do not even have all the food they need to feed everybody in that country. So they don't have energy security or food security. But the Biden administration sends Blinken, Yellen over there. They're over there. They don't even bring up energy because they're too busy trying to kill the U.S. energy here. And what we need to do is not meetings, not press releases, because something that would send a lot more than a press release is actually harpoon

missiles. We need anti-ship missiles on Taiwan. The way that you have a war never start, which is the goal, the way you have peace through strength, is that you actually have strength. You actually have deterrence. And what we have in what we've got going on in Ukraine is an example of when deterrence fail. What is an example there of Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan? The fact that he greenlighted Putin moving into Ukraine and then now they see weakness. And when they see weakness, they make a move. And we have to be strong and we have to be strong both in Ukraine and we can solve the southern border. Absolutely. We can do that because guess what? There's only 19,855 authorized people for the border patrol, but they're not all staff because the Biden administration doesn't enforce law enforcement.

But Biden administration wanted to put 87,000 people in the IRS as opposed to giving the money in this fort we need to our own border patrol. Okay. Senator Scott on China. That same question. I don't speak about China. Let's fire the 87,000 IRS agents and hire or double the number of border patrol agents. I just left Yuma, Arizona about two weeks ago.

The most pressing need of the American people from a national security standpoint is our southern border. It has led to the death of 70,000 Americans because of fentanyl, plus 6 million illegal crossings since President Biden has taken office, and 200 people on our national security watch list have been caught at our border. How many have not been caught at our southern border? If we just spend $10 billion, we could finish the wall.

For $5 billion more, we could have the military-grade technology to surveil our southern border to stop the flow of fentanyl and save 70,000 Americans a year. That should be the priority of this government. And as the next president of the United States, I will make that border wall complete. There are many more questions on China. What's the upkeep cost of the wall? I want to say it. But you know, 70,000.

It's not just the 70,000 from fentanyl. We've lost 200,000 people to overdoses since Biden took office. That's 300 people a day. We're taking mass casualties and those aren't, that's a statistic, but these are sons and daughters, nieces and nephews that we're losing. We've got North Dakota troops down there flying night helicopter missions from San Diego to the Gulf coast, trying to stop these transnational criminal organizations. They've got better funding on their side than we've got on our side. Speaking of which, Governor Hutchinson, speaking of which, images from earlier this month,

Governor Hutchinson, Vice President Pence, images from earlier this month, Vice President Pence, it really doesn't help. I'm asking a question. Earlier this year, images showed suspected cart he was like, I could talk about China. Images showed suspected cartel members crossing into Texas with rifles. Do you consider this

an invasion? Would you authorize lethal force along that border? There would be lethal force used by the Border Patrol, law enforcement,

as needed to protect the border. Absolutely. When you look at the military, the military has to be used for intelligence gathering purposes. This is not unusual. Whenever I was in the Bush administration, we went down there and met with President Vincente Fox of Mexico and asked his help on going after the cartels. And he looked at me and said, they're a problem to us as well. And so we joined together and we took down the Ariana Felix brothers leading the Tijuana cartel. And that made a difference. Ramon was shot and killed and Ben Amin was captured. Cooperation makes a difference. We cannot be successful going against the cartel unless we bring in Mexico as a partner. We have to use economic pressure

to accomplish that. President Obrador has not been helpful, and we have to use economic pressure that this administration is not using. The rule of law has to matter on both sides of it. This is critical. I've done it. We know what needs to be done. The military has to be limited in its use. After 9-11, we had the global war on terror, and guess what?

We protected the border at the same time. You can do both. Let's go to Governor DeSantis. So, as President, would you support time. You can do both. Let's go to Governor DeSantis. So, as President, would you support sending U.S. special forces over the border into Mexico to take

out fentanyl labs, to take out drug cartel operations? Would you support that kind of American military use? Yes, and I will do it on day one. Here's the thing. The cartels are killing tens of thousands of our fellow citizens. You want to talk about a country in decline? You have the cartels controlling a lot of part of your southern border. We have to reestablish the rule of law,

and we have to defend our people. The president of the United States has got to use all available powers as commander in chief to protect our country and to protect the people. So when they're coming across, yes, we're going to use lethal force. Yes, we reserve the right to operate. How many more tens of thousands are we going to let to die? I am sick. I've met angel moms throughout this country. I met a lady in Texas named Tracy and her son took one Percocet that was laced with fentanyl, immediately died. That is happening all across this country because of the poison that they are bringing in. So as president, would I use force? Would I treat them as foreign terrorist organizations? You're darn right I would.

You know, Vice President Pence. Oh, gee golly, Ron. You can say fuck sometimes. Ron has overtaken Vivek for second place. They're actually both tied at 17. So I think they're tied right now. But I got to say, great performance so far. I think Vivek is doing better. But Ron has really improved.

You can tell he's been getting lessons. We secured the southern border of the United States of America and reduced illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90 percent. When Joe Biden took over, he threw open the southern border of the United States and the wave of humanity, the wave of fentanyl that's been eloquently described here is a wave of human tragedy across this country. But, Martha, you began this evening talking about who is best prepared to be the next president of the United States. And I have to tell you, with all humility, I was there when we negotiated through the government shutdown and got the funding available to build the wall. I was negotiating on Capitol Hill around the clock. I negotiated the remain in Mexico policy on behalf of the president of the United

States. And AC, you're so right. It's because we used economic pressure to bring the Mexicans to the table. And they allowed us to have people wait in Mexico while they applied for asylum and ended asylum abuse overnight. We got the Mexicans to deploy their National Guard to their southern border and to our southern border as never before. And I want to promise you, as President of the United States of America, I will engage Mexico the exact same way, and we will partner with the Mexican military, and we will hunt down and destroy the cartels that are claiming lives in the United States of America. Thank you. Another issue that is related to this

is that almost seven million migrants have crossed this border, our southern border, during the Biden administration. So, Governor Christie, what would you do about the seven million who are here? How would you handle them? What would you do? Look, Martha, the first thing we need to do is to stop any more from coming. That's the first thing we need to do. Then the next thing we need to do with the folks that are here is to, again, as we've talked about all night tonight, we have to have law and order in this country. We have to enforce the law. And what that means is to make

sure that people who come here illegally are not rewarded for being here illegally. We have so many wonderful people from around the world who are waiting in line, following the law to try to come here and pursue the American dream. And those people are waiting and waiting and waiting because we haven't dealt with the problem of the folks who are here. We have to have them detained. We have to make sure that they are not rewarded for having broken the law. And one last thing on this fentanyl issue. With China, we can't take our eye off of that ball. Yes, it's important that we secure the border. Very important, as I just said. But China is sending these chemicals to these drug cartels for them to create the fentanyl that is killing hundreds of thousands of our citizens.

The Chinese are engaging in an act of war against us, killing our citizens. We better make that priority one in our conversations with China and to try to straighten that relationship out because if we don't, we're going to lose more and more of our citizens. I just want to clarify. These debates are a chance for them

to align their messages too. Of course. And I just want to shout out the Krasensteins, or I think it was Brian said that Chris Christie has won the debate. Oh, geez. That would be a perfect Democrat thing for that.

So that job at MSNBC is waiting for you, Christie. I'm not proficient in reading or math after this. All right, well, they're going to commercial, but man, the uproar on Twitter right now that Vivek was the only one, the first one, when they said, if Trump is convictably supported, Vivek's just like, bang the first one, when they said, will you still, if Trump is convictably supported, Vivek's just like, bang, right away, no questions asked.

And then what happens? They wait for the cheering. And then the other ones are like, yeah, Ron's like, he's like this. And then when they're like, would you not support continued funding of Ukraine? It's a weird way to ask. Yeah. You know, raise your hand if you don't want to support Ukraine. Vivek's like, yup.

And then everyone else, nope. No, no. Putin is a dictator. We want war. I got a question. And I actually, so Rob, I guess you could answer because I haven't ever had your opinion on this, the Ukraine war. Like what I see is, okay, Putin,

when the Soviet Union was broke apart, the oligarchs decided they were going to give Eastern Ukraine to the Ukraine instead of to the Russians because they wanted to prevent Russian hegemony. They didn't want Russia to have Sevastopol, that trade port in crimea to dominate mediterranean trade so they were like we're gonna give that to the ukraine and now russia's like you know i'm done with that we've been nato's been screwing us over for two decades three decades we're taking our mediterranean seaport that's rightfully russian it should be russian we want it and i think a lot of

people are afraid that if we give the Eastern Donbass to the Russians, it is a form of appeasement that the Putin will be like, thanks. Now I want more. I'm not going to stop there. I'm going to go into Poland. I'm going to go into Turkey. Yeah.

And they don't want a repeat of what Hitler, when they appeased him with the Sudetenland in World War II. But a lot of people are just like, all they want is that trade port. If we give the trade port to the Russians, they're just going to establish Mediterranean trade that will quell it and create peace. What do you think? Yeah, I think the main threat is the fact that Ukraine was gradually moved into the possibility of becoming a NATO member.

And so then you have a Russian Federation that just all across its periphery is surrounded by NATO. And I think that's a kind of a lack of strategic empathy for a serious power that we did that. At some point, Ukraine put it in its constitution with our encouragement that NATO aspirations is part of it. And they could tolerate it with like Hungary and and much of central and eastern europe but ukraine is just an utter red line and i don't think it's just putin i think any russian statesman whether it's from soviet era uh or from the 19th century or today you ask them you know to have ukraine be basically a base for a hostile power they're not going to put up with that. And so I think I do think it is a result of Western kind of encroachment and that, you know, this issue should be resolved in negotiations and just flooding Ukraine with arms isn't

helping. It just seems to me we're just grinding down Ukrainians. So as of right now, Vivek has dropped to a decent third he is one cent below ron desantis i'm not quite sure i think what's happening is it's you're seeing nikki haley tim scott glenn yunkin christy gain more yeah gaining which is taking away from the because ron was around 13 ron has improved by three cents a fake is down by five cents nikki haley because of the debate, this is all happening during the debate. So I can only assume before it was like 22,

I think. So my only other followup is, do you think that if we seed territory, the Eastern Damas to the Russians, that they'll, that that's, that will end the war. Do you think that Putin or whoever these Russian military commanders will

just keep invading the world? What is your take on it? I don't think as we've seen russia can it can barely best the ukrainian military admittedly like really heavily supported by the west so i think we have to decide you know because the hawks say both things they say oh don't worry about russia it can barely take ukraine but at the same time they'll say tomorrow they'll be in like berlin and so i think you have to pick one of those and i think the side that i come down is is actually a pretty

not that great of a power and not with ambitions like that the nation's report card was the weakest ever for american school children uh exposing the vague says homeschool your kids deep declines for reading and math for 15 year olds and 13 year olds. Governor DeSantis, you would eliminate, you said, the Department of Education. But as president, would you still have a responsibility to fix this crisis? The vague trending number two in the U.S. is tweeting during the debate. He's a badass. One of the major reasons why our country is in decline. We need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country.

And in Florida, we stood up for what was right. First, we had schools open during COVID. And a lot of the problems that we've seen are because these lockdown states lock their kids out of school for a year, year and a half. That was wrong. We stood up. I took a lot of fire for that. I was pilloried by the media, but I stood for our kids. And as president, I'll stand for you and your kids as well. But we have to make sure that what our schools are doing is focusing on solid academics. In Florida, we eliminated critical race theory from our K-12 schools. We eliminated gender ideology from our K-12 schools. And we

have elevated the importance of American civics in teaching our kids about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. As president, I'm going to lead an effort to increase civic understanding and knowledge of our Constitution. We cannot be graduating students that don't have any foundation in what it means to be an American. He's a better PR teammate because he's got, he's legit in a lot of ways. I like the idea of getting rid of the Department of Education better. You've said that the Department of Education, the FBI, the ATF, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the IRS, the Department of Commerce, many of these should not exist. Yes, that's correct. So to the education question, how would you deal with the crisis? So look, we have a crisis of achievement. Let's

shut down the head of the snake, the Department of Education. Take that $80 billion, put it in the hands of parents across this country. This is the civil rights issue of our time. Allow any parent to choose where they send their kids to school, end the teachers' unions at the local level to allow public schools to compete, and then revive our national identity where every high school senior should have to pass the same civics test that, frankly, every immigrant, including my mother, had to pass in order to become a citizen of this country. And the fact of the matter is, look, there's a part of education policy that also rests with the family. I didn't grow up in money, but you know, the word privilege gets used a lot. Well, you know what? I did have the ultimate privilege

of two parents in the house with a focus on educational achievement. And I want every kid to enjoy that. So part of the problem is we also have a federal government that pays single women more not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the house, contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness. And I think that goes hand in glove with the education crisis as well, because we have to remember education starts with the family, and the nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind. Oh, come on. Vivek is just slam dunking after slam dunking. He is awful. Governor Haley has said that biological boys playing in girls sports is the women's issue of our time. You said that even though you signed a ban on this in North Dakota, that there hadn't been one instance where it was actually needed. Are you saying that you think that too much is

made of this issue? No, I'm saying in North Dakota, we made a priority of protecting women's sports, and we've done that in our state. But I would absolutely do that. But I do think when we start talking about education, and we think that we're going to have a federal government, one size fits all, we're just completely losing track of the fact that education differs by state. Some school districts are doing a fantastic job, some less so. But the idea that every school district in the state and every teacher is somehow indoctrinating people is just false. When I was building a company from scratch with small town kids, and we grew up in a

town of 300, but we built a global company in 132 countries with over 100,000 customers. We listened to those customers. We spent time with them. We talked to them. We did that. As governor, education is one of the biggest part of a state budget. So as a governor, I go. I shadow a student. The night before I find out the student finds out, I'm going to go to every class with them. I don't sit and lecture school districts how to do it. I go and see the experience.

There's a lot of things that have to change. But what needs to change in education is innovation. We're doing it the same way we did it 50 years ago with innovation, not regulation. I would get rid of the Department of Education. I would give block grants to schools, but I'd give them on merit based on who's doing the most innovative. I just got done holding the seventh annual Governor's Conference on Innovation and Education. You should see what the people are doing when you cut loose the red tape, get the burden off their back.

They care. Teachers in this country, the vast majority of them care about those kids. They're working in low-paying jobs and they're fighting for those kids and their families. Why I claim that Trump made a mistake by not doing this debate is because he gave Ramaswamy an opportunity to establish himself.

The one thing you want to have a better life than you did. And we can talk about all of these things. And there's a lot of crazy woke things happening in schools, but we've got to get these kids reading. If a child can't read by third grade, they're four times less likely to graduate high school. So we need to make sure we bring in reading remediation all over this country. We need transparency in the classroom because parents should never have to

wonder what's being said or taught to their children in the classroom. Parents need to be deciding which schools their kids go to because they know best. And let's put vocational classes back into the high schools. Let's teach our kids to build things again. When we do that and we allow that innovation, that's when it'll get back. And yes, I will always say I'm going to fight for girls all day long because strong girls become strong women. Strong women become strong leaders. And biological boys don't belong in the locker rooms of any of us. I'm sorry I called you dumb, Nikki. We're going to start the lightning round. Oh, the lightning round, huh? And the question is going to go to you,

Vice President. So this is a lightning round of questions. 30-second answers, please. President Biden will be 82 years old on Inauguration Day. Nearly 70 percent of Americans say that he is too old to serve. Should presidents have to pass a mental and physical test in order to serve Vice President Pence? Well, it might be a good idea to have everybody in Washington, D.C. pass a mental test.

Okay, good answer. Good one. I'll give you that one, Mikey Boy. No, the American people can make those judgments. But let me say, I'm running for president of the United States

because we don't need a president. The argument over whether or not there should be a health test. People vote to choose whether or not this person will be their leader. But the average person, I think it's fair if someone says, like, here's my health. Then they decide. So maybe a hybrid of the two. Like Joe Biden. No child left behind when republicans were doubling the department

of education i'll also shut down the federal department of education and when i was governor the size of the largest school choice program in america and we'll give school choice to every family in america so when i'm in the white house this is a lightning round mr ramaswamy i think you were mentioned there you're 38 you're the youngest on the stage. You've said, and you just said, you want a civics test or public service for those under 25 to be able to vote. So the question is, do you want a mental acuity test for presidents over 75? I believe in the people of this country to tell the difference between somebody who's an automaton and somebody who's actually a thinking agent in the White House, which we don't have in there today. And I will tell you, I want to address Vice President Pence's comment. I think we do need

somebody of a different generation to lead this nation forward. Look at the way I've run this campaign, going to the south side of Chicago, to Kensington, in the middle of Philadelphia, where traditional Republican candidates don't go. We have an opportunity to build a multi-ethnic, working-class majority to deliver a multi-ethnic working class majority to deliver a landslide. And I think I'm the only candidate in this race, young or old, black or white, to bring all of those voters along to deliver a Reagan 1980 revolution. We're going to do it in 2024. I like this guy. He's good. Yeah, time passes faster when he's talking. I will answer that. It's a good point.

30 seconds. It's much shorter. Everybody's going to have to get control of this debate. This is a lightning round, not rolling thunder. You got him, Brett. On education,

first of all, look at Arkansas. We have to compete with China. I built computer science education. We led the nation in computer science education, going from 1,100 students to 23,000 students taking it. This is how you compete with China. As president of the United States, I will make sure we go from 51 percent of our schools offering computer science to every school in rural areas and urban areas offering offering computer science for the benefit of our kids, and we can compete with China in terms of technology. Thank you, sir.

This is coming to you. We're trying to do a quick round of different topics here. Okay, so ask the question, please. Senator Scott, faith is on decline in this country. You talked about it a little bit before tonight. So is there a role for a president of the United States in changing that? What would you do to change that? Well, our nation was founded upon the Judeo-Christian values that has made this the

greatest nation on God's green earth. I'm a big believer in Ephesians 3.20 that God is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or imagine. Our responsibility should be to model the behavior we want others to follow. On education, the only way we change education in this nation is to break the backs of the teachers' unions. They are standing in the doorhouse of our kids, locking them into failing schools and locking them out of the greatest future they could have. As President and Governor DeSantis, would you support some mandatory military service for all Americans?

I think it should be voluntary. I'm somebody that volunteered to serve, inspired by September 11th. And I deployed to Iraq alongside U.S. Navy SEALs in places like Fallujah, Ramadi. And it's something that I think has taught me, you know, when you go in that type of environment, anything you have, your personal agenda, you check it at the door. You go there and it's about focusing on the mission above all else.

And guys come together and they get it done. And that's how I would view being the president of the United States. It's not about States. It's not about me. It's not about all these other side issues. My sole focus will be on your future and reversing this country's decline. Okay, now for something a little out of this world. I think Ron's doing decently well in this.

Yeah. But just decently, right? It's like he's getting good answers in that are that are contrasting to the fake, but they're a little bit below the power. He's sort of edging into the other kind of less significant character. He's not standing out. And people are taking this a lot more seriously.

But he does get answers. There are things going on that people aren't aware of. So, if you were president, Governor Christie, would you level with the American people about what the government knows about these possible encounters? And especially coming from a woman from New Jersey. I think it's horrible that just coming up from New Jersey, you asked me about unidentified flying objects and Martians. We're different, but we're not that different.

Look, of course, the job of the President of the United States is to level with the American people about everything. The job of the President of the United States is to stand for truth. The job of the President of the United States is to be a role model for our children and our grandchildren. Absolutely not. Whether it's UFOs or this problem of education. And Tim's right, by the way. And I started this in 2010 by going right

after the teachers unions in New Jersey and drove them down to an all-time low. So the New York Times is tracking airtime. Mike Pence has the most. Because he talks slow. He wouldn't shut up. 11 minutes and 30 seconds. With 1041.

DeSantis is at 932. This is not good for Chris Christie. I'm sorry for Ron DeSantis. He's kind of mild mannered. People want fire, man. They want a loud guy that's going to stand up and speak out. Because, like, honestly, in combat, you don't want a guy that waits for a cue. You want a guy that stands up and moves. And we're ordering a commander right now.

Are you eating ribeye right now? Yeah. I'm so hungry. Everybody saw that clip where he was like, I'm not wearing the fucking mask. And it's like, bro's been working out, man. you right when my body is on fire and the weird thing is i eat this mass gainer uh these these shakes with mass gainer and it makes me more hungry i would think putting 600 food that makes 600 calories in my body would make me less hungry but i get so hungry on episodes when when i eat those before i might have to dip out and get some food here in a minute yo this is

crazy the first the longest airtime subject is abortion the second is donald trump nice nice i'm surprised that donald trump's not number one biden biden is way down the list way down anytime you talk about the other party in your own party's debate you're losing your entire party who's getting attacked the most biden's been attacked seven times followed by ramaswamy at six that's a good sign for five they're threatened by him you want to be attacked if you're on the debate this is really interesting that we're seeing the uh prediction market have the vague going down because i am not here to give anybody advice but i have to imagine a six cent drop by

vivek especially after tonight all of these articles are going to be popping up praising him because Twitter is going wild. He's the number two trend. The number one trend in the US right now is the debate, followed by Vivek. Regardless of whether you like him or not, he is stealing the show. 14 cents. The way the prediction market works, you can buy a share in this, and then if people

think he's going to win, it goes up. So I think people are going to start betting back on him. They're going to make a lot of money. Oh, we got Russell Brand hanging out over here. Rusty, where you at, bro? We got to get him in here one day. Well, he was here recently. We couldn't get him, though. I think I went on his show a couple times, though.

We want to do a big event with him. We want to do a big event with him. We're doing an event soon. I can't announce it just yet. We got big news coming up. I think we talked about it, didn't we? We already we have uh we're doing an event soon i can't announce it just yet we got big news coming up i think we talked about it didn't we we already announced the event we're doing in miami yeah we announced that there will be one but that was about it or we think we mentioned some names yeah this is gonna be i'm sorry about me i gotta stop chewing into the mic and just he can't help it he's eating he's eating steak i want to be part

of the show we have uh we have carnivore snacks. We got it from Public Square. That was the app, and I was looking for meat. And Michael, the guy who runs it, says, check out Anthem and carnivore snacks. It has Joe Rogan swears by it. And we all know that if Joe Rogan says something is healthy and good for you, you got to do it. So we bought a bunch of the carnivore snacks, and it's literally just like steak. It's amazing. The Anthem jerky is super awesome, too. We ate that, like, super quick. That stuff goes real good. It goes fast. we bought a bunch of the carnivore snacks and it's literally just like steak it's amazing the

anthem jerky is super awesome too we ate that like super quick that stuff goes that stuff's real good it goes fast yeah but the the carnivore snacks i feel like you need guacamole with it dipping that in guacamole changes the game i don't know i want to try that i've been i was dipping it in sour cream oh yeah that's good just to add as much fat as possible it's a salty so uh so good political compass memes hit me up on instagram i don't know how many followers they have but i i love reading political compass memes because they're hilarious and uh because the political compass memes guys are like they actually understand political positions so i'm like oh i can respect it they're actually what do they have they have 354 000 followers

and they were like hey can we get a photo of the contents of your refrigerator and i was like huh and they're like we want to we want to post photos of the contents of everyone's refrigerators and i was like sure took a picture we've got uh i wonder what they'll what they'll do with it we have a there's a lot of heavy cream a lot and uh cousin t's pure maple syrup did you do the one at your house or the one up in the office yeah no no giant jugs of aloe no we can maybe send them another one but here's ian here's everyone else not much no mine is like a bunch of vegetables a ton of vegetables cheese and heavy cream nice that's basically do you keep the meats in the freezer yeah meats are in the freezer oh the re the Reagan Library. Here we go.

A live look at the Reagan Library as the sun sets in Simi Valley, California. We'll see there next month when our colleagues at Fox Business host the next 2024 showdown. Fox Business is partnering with Univision, the Reagan Foundation, and Rumble to bring you the second Republican presidential debate on September 27th. It looks pretty nice there. 20 years ago, 70% of American adults said they were extremely proud to be an American. That number has now plummeted to just 39%. In his pitch to get to the Oval Office, President Reagan called America the shining city

on a hill, a beacon of hope and optimism. So in your closing statement tonight, please tell American voters why you are the person who can inspire this nation to a better day. These are 45 seconds, and we begin with Governor Burgum. i understand why america's hurting biden's inflation is choking us i grew up in a small town my dad died when i was freshman in high school does anybody care to hear what these other guys had to say to work i'm not no i don't no i'm good we'll just wait till we hear ron and vivek and then everyone else we just said i'll be honest i'm starting to get hungry and when paul when you when you realize that hunger how important it is to eat politics means fucking nothing all i want is food and that's how reality is so we got to keep this economy moving how are those apple crisps so good

oh they're really good i had some earlier was this called bag what's it called i don't know i kind of want some of that steak baked yeah the? Yeah. The crunchy steak is good. It's good. Yeah, it's really good. It is really good. I'm on a horseback. I'm down to shut it off. You guys want to listen to the- Well, we got to hear the closing. Like, after-

So it's going to be Ron and then Vivek, I think. And then after- I mean, they might do them last. We got to hear Chris Christie. We got to. How's he going to help the world? I want to hear it. It's going to be like, listen, when I was governor of New Jersey, I shot a bridge down and got in trouble.

That happened. That's like the big scandal. I will improve every American life. You know, look, I got to be honest, like, Burgum is cool, dude. I got no beef. But he's just kind of there, you know what I mean? Our nation is in trouble. And it's in trouble because of failed leadership. And the solution is not four more years of Joseph Biden. The solution is not four

more years of Donald Trump. Wrong. The solution is new leadership. Excuse me. Excuse me. Wrong. Bold ideas to America and to bring out the best of America. A president's number one responsibility is to bring out the best of our people. That's what Ronald Reagan did. And he did it with optimism and hope for our country, with consistent conservatism. That's exactly what I bring. As president, I'll bring out the best of America in terms of individual responsibility,

building our economy, in terms of securing our border, enforcing the rule of law. I'll bring out the best of America in terms of our national character, our faith, and our hope for the future. Join in this fight. ASA2024.com. Thank you. Senator Scott. Thank you. I was a disillusioned young man growing up in a single-parent household mired in poverty. I wondered if the American dream was real for a kid like me. I can stand before you today and say the dream is alive, it is well, and it is healthy.

I have the good fortune of a mom who works 16-hour days making sure we have food on our tables. She taught me that if you're able-bodied in America, you work. If you take out a loan, you pay it back. You commit a violent crime, you go to jail. And if God made you a man, you play sports against men. I'm Tim Scott. I'm asking you for your vote. God rest your soul. And if you're an I.N.

I'm asking you to come for me. Why was she telling him this 40 years ago? You can go to TimScott.com for more information or to make a contribution. Governor Christie. Thank you, Brett. Thank you, Martha. Look, everybody on this stage wants to be the next president of the United States. And the only way that's going to happen is if we beat Joe Biden. I'm the only one on this stage who's ever beaten a Democratic incumbent in an election.

I did it in a deep blue state, being outspent three to one. Beating a Democratic incumbent is not easy. The last Democratic incumbent president who was defeated was Jimmy Carter. And he was defeated by a conservative governor from a blue state who knew how to get results, who stood for the truth, who cared about accountability, and stood strong and hard against waste. Those are the very things that I did in my eight years as governor of New Jersey, and it's exactly what I'll do as president of the United States. Believe me, the Democrats want some other nominee who's never beaten the Democratic incumbent. I'm the one who can win this race, and if you give me the democrats want some other nominee who's never beaten the democratic incumbent

i'm the one who can win this race and if you give me the chance i will restore our country by winning it thank you governor haley see i knew they were going to do this several weeks ago i dropped my husband michael a combat veteran from afghanistan off at a.m. for another year-long deployment. I watched him and 230 soldiers pick up their two duffel bags of belongings to go to a country they had never been, all in the name of protecting America. Ukraine? If they are willing to protect us from there, we should be willing to fight for America here. I will beat Joe Biden, and he knows that. I will strengthen our economy, and we'll bring this inflation down. We will put transparency in the classroom. We will secure our borders. We will have the backs of our law enforcement,

and we will make sure we have a strong national security. And once again, we will make sure we have an America that is strong and proud. We have a country to save. Join us. Go to NikkiHaley.com and let's get it done. Vice President Pence. Thank you, Brad and Martha, for this evening. It's an honor to be here.

Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad. The disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, their war on energy, runaway spending that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, a crisis at our southern border, an assault on our values and liberties, and the American people have had enough. But I know we can bring it back. But different times call for different leadership. The Republican Party owes the American people the choice. Proven leadership at the national level that knows how to move a conservative agenda forward. We proved in the Trump-Pence years you can turn this country around faster than you can imagine. And I have faith we will again.

Because I have faith in the American people. The good, decent, hard-working, faith-filled, idealistic people of this country. And I have faith that God is not done with America yet. And if we will renew our faith in one another and renew our faith in him who has ever guided this nation since we arrived on these wilderness shores, I know the best days for this nation on earth are yet to come. Thank you. And call me and I grew up into a generation where we were taught to celebrate our diversity and our differences so much that we forgot all of the way. Sick. We are really just the same as Americans bound by a common set of ideals that set this nation into motion in 1776. And this is our moment to revive those common ideals. God is real. There are two genders. Fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. Reverse racism is racism. An open border is not a border.

Parents determine the education of their children. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to man. Capitalism lifts us up from poverty. There are three branches of government, not four. And the U.S. Constitution, it is the strongest guarantor of freedom in human history. That is what won us the American Revolution. That is what will win us the revolution of 2024. Thanks for letting me do this. I know what you're going to say.

The Constitution was like, what, 13 years later? Came after the revolution. You couldn't make the government until you actually secured your liberty. Governor? Let you know. This is our time for choosing. We will send Joe Biden back to his basement and we will reverse the decline of this country. I'm a blue collar kid.

I work minimum wage jobs to be able to make ends meet. I understand the importance of the American dream. And I know how that slipped away from so many millions of Americans will restore it. I'm a veteran who served in Iraq. I know what it means to put service above self. I'm also a dad and a husband of six, five and three year old. I understand the importance of protecting parents' rights and the well-being of our children in Florida. We showed it could be done. I made promises and I delivered on all of those promises. 2024 is make or break. We're not getting a mulligan.

No excuses. I will get the job done. And as your president, I will not let you down. God bless you all. We want to say thank you. All right. Well, there you go. It's over.

I made promises and I delivered on them. I got to say, though, there were some funny moments. There were some funny moments. Are you gonna get sued by Fox? Oh, everybody's streaming it. There's like 10,000. It's actually on the GOP channel on Rumble. So I don't know who runs that.

But thanks for streaming. I think it would be absolutely insane. It is insane for Fox to assert. I mean, this is as newsworthy as newsworthy gets. Fact-checking, real-time commentary, calling out, what did I say that Mike Pence was a fucking liar? Because Richard Nixon said no to certified electoral votes. He said, these are the certified votes?

Nah. We're going to go with the uncertified Democrats because we just agree. Everyone agree? Okay, we do it. The vice president absolutely could do it. He's lying. And so we call that out. But whatever, man.

I just think ultimately what it comes down to is my big issue with the whole thing, aside from Ron and Vivek, and even with them there, to be honest, it's just WWE. It is just people want to see the the smack talk and then and whatever like i don't think anyone's learning anything you see like what the one thing i do appreciate that we learned is when they said

when they asked these questions about ukraine and trump vivek without question without hesitation immediately raised his hand he did not care to see what the audience would say he knew what his position was and then i loved it when they're like will you still support trump if he's convicted vivek's like yep and then you see everyone kind of look around and then like slowly raise their hand because they hear the cheering for vivek it's memorable yep that you don't soon forget but uh we went way over and so i guess apologies everybody we're not going to have the members only tonight because obviously we extended this to listen to the arguments of people who will never be president. With all due respect to the vague, I mean, maybe not right now.

I mean, OK, maybe in the future. OK, 28. Yeah. And Ron, maybe. I mean, who knows? I'm just saying right now these guys are not going to be. It's going to be Trump is going to be the nominee. These guys all in on Trump.

I don't know, man. I'm not saying I'm not saying Trump will win. I'm saying these people won't even be the nominee. You're all in, huh? And Trump, I don't know, man. I'm not saying Trump will win. I'm saying these people won't even be the nominee. Trump is definitely an incumbent, whether you want to say it or not. And that margin, that $42,000 matters. So I really do appreciate it. But we're going to wrap up here so I can go to bed because I have to wake up at 7 a.m. again. So, Saurabh, thanks for hanging out.

Did you want to shout anything out? Just the book. Check it out. Tyranny Inc. Right on. Do you have any social media or anything twitter at so rob amari right on cheers thanks for having me of course i am uh phil that remains on x i am phil that remains official on instagram the band is all that remains you can check us out on apple music spotify pandora youtube amazon music you know the internet and there there really is, it's not Democrats and Republicans. It is an administrative class of bureaucrats and everyone else.

And I'm so glad you wrote a book about it to start to piece it apart. I haven't read it yet. Hopefully, maybe you'll leave a copy. This copy is signed to Tim Katz. Awesome. And I'm looking forward to hearing more about it in the future. Good to see you again, ma'am. Thank you, sir.

Have a great night. And I'll see you guys later. Bye. And, of course, I i am serge.com that was a fun not uh debate to watch it was just not that great um but uh yeah i hope to see you guys on x let's argue a little bit smash that like button subscribe to the channel become a member at timcast.com because we will be back tomorrow as per usual with our members only segment and all that jazz. But we really do support all of you guys who help us out as members. And thank you all for hanging out.

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