Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #847 TRUMP SURRENDERS LIVE, Trump Ally DENIED Bail By Georgia DA w/Eric Hunley

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

Tim, Phil, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Eric Hunley to discuss Donald J Trump arriving at the Fulton County Jail in Georgia, the director for Black Voices For Trump being jailed without bond, Fani Will...is under investigation for allegedly coordinating with the Biden DOJ, and Trump's mugshot officially being released. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 Everything good? We're good? We got history in the making, my friends. And we got a lot to talk about. So we will probably be posting this mugshot as soon as it comes in. A lot of people are sharing a fake one, but we got the real one. We also have an individual who was indicted alongside Trump, denied bail. So there are questions about what's going to happen
Starting point is 00:01:25 with trump but we think he'll probably just leave it's going to be fairly routine but still historical and i have a question as we kick this this one off we've got a lot to talk about elon musk is being sued by the government because he only hires americans yeah he discriminates against asylum seekers and refugees that's amazing we've got a follow-up on the debate. We've got stories about the Trump-Tucker interview. Everyone's clamoring over the view count. We'll get into all that. But I'll just ask you one thing to stew on before we get started. If Donald Trump is convicted in Georgia or any jurisdiction, let's say Georgia because it's a state charge, and they demand jail time or even house arrest, ankle bracelet, something, right? If Trump is convicted on all of these felonies,
Starting point is 00:02:08 certainly they're going to have to take him into custody in some capacity. What happens if, likely, the charges are going to be over one year long? What happens if the charges extend beyond the election, but Donald Trump wins and becomes the president? Now, a sitting, duly elected president is incarcerated at the state level. Does Trump tell the feds, no, I'm walking out of here today, federal supremacy clause? Or does Trump just stay in jail? And what happens if Trump orders the feds to shut down that jail and walk him out, even though he's been convicted in that state? So I'm going to think
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Starting point is 00:05:17 where I interview folks like John McAfee when he was on the run, Carole Baskin of Tiger King, and other people like that. Right on. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for joining us. It's a historic day. It should get interesting. We got Hannah Clare hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for timcast.com.
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Starting point is 00:05:40 All That Remains and I am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, my friend, Serge. Serge.com checking in let's uh get started it's quite a day let's just go into it we have this uh tweet from disclosed tv trump arrives at the fulton county jail right now this is the entrance of the jail and he's going to essentially have his height taken his weight taken they'll write down his
Starting point is 00:06:00 hair and eye color then what they'll do is they'll electronically fingerprint him with a it's like sort of a piece of glass scanner, not ink. Then his mugshot will be taken. And we will get that because under the Open Records Act, it's public record in Georgia. So that's the latest. We also have this Trump's booking details for the Fulton County Jail. It's kind of hard to see. Let's see if we can make this image a little bit bigger. And it's just everything we already know.
Starting point is 00:06:24 We've got violation of RICO, solicitation of a violation of oath of public officer and there's the bond trump has apparently already posted bond so here's what they say they say he's a white male six foot three and 215 pounds eric just gave me this look uh so i take it you don't agree he's an orange male i'd say he's built like me i'm 200 215 i wish 215 pounds is trending on twitter right now nobody's buying it but they weighed him i mean but it came out early right i don't never trust the government like this got released never trust any government organization never trust i guess i just asked him like how much do you weigh i mean is this all just a sham what's really going on i gotta say, history is happening right before our very eyes.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Trump is headed to be processed. He's going to join the mugshots of everyone else. And, man, my thoughts on this as we await the mugshot, which we'll post as soon as it pops up, I'm staring at it right here. I mentioned this in the beginning of the show in the intro, but we'll say it here for this particular segment. And I'm curious what y'all think. So comment, super chat, whatever. We talk about the potentials for civil war. Tucker Carlson got roasted for asking Trump about civil war. Trump said he didn't know, but the passions are really intense and the
Starting point is 00:07:41 hatred's really intense. I don't know. I know that Stephen Marsh, we cite him a lot because he wrote a book about this. We disagree on a lot of things, but we agree on a lot of core elements. And so that's why I find it particularly fascinating. I think he's seeing similar things to what we're seeing. And he says civil strife, not civil war, that people are being killed for political reasons. Tensions are escalating, but it's the period pre-civil war. So I give you this scenario and I want you to tell me what you think happens because I don't know. Trump is convicted in Georgia, state charges relating to the election. He's sentenced to 16 months, but the sentence comes down in, let's say, July.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They want to do the trial in March. Let's say that happens. We've got more reporting that at least one defendant's trial will be October 23rd. But let's say Trump, let's say, let's say Trump is October 23rd. Let's say the trial concludes beginning of January. He gets convicted, sentenced to 16 months. Let's say in any capacity, he's taken into custody, whatever that may be. Minimum security, ankle bracelet, can't leave your house. Who knows if he's in georgia they're not letting him leave the state trump campaigns online trump wins trump is president trump is incarcerated then what i do not believe there's a scenario in this circumstance where trump does not walk out of jail or walk out of his house or wherever they're holding him of course that already Already we heard Dan Bongino say that the circuit service has the federal supremacy clause multiple. That give them.
Starting point is 00:09:10 They can make anything a federally protected zone. So I'd have to imagine. First. You have to assume Trump will not be convicted. You have to assume that if convicted Trump will not be jailed. If those criteria are met. Then you have to assume Trump won't get elected a lot of hurdles here but i think trump has a path to victory and if he's can if he's around this indictment people
Starting point is 00:09:32 are saying is going to help him out if trump wins and is convicted at the same time tell me how we do not get at the very least federal versus state armed conflict i think really quickly just one consideration isn't brian kemp a republican yeah but we know well yeah right doesn't trump immediately become the head of the republican party as president and essentially kemp can be ordered commute the damn sentence problem over uh i don't think kemp can commute. It has to go to a panel. The panel has to agree. And Kemp doesn't like Trump. He might not, but then both houses are pro-Trump, and they're going after Fannie Willis. So there's enough people to push it through, whether Kemp likes it or not.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I think that the governors have that kind of autonomy, don't they? For pardons? Well, I mean, my understanding is Georgia. It's a panel that has the authority on on this. Like, so my understanding is that Kemp would have to go to a panel and submit to them. There's other states. I think Florida does this, too. I could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It varies by state. Right, right, right. It's not just, you know, absolute authority of the governor to pardon. Some states are. Some states aren't. Some states, the governor, like in the past, was like, we're going to have a panel decide to avoid corruption. It makes sense. You don't want a governor to be like, he's my friend.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You're free to go. So you have a panel convened to make sure it's on the level. But a lot of criteria would need to, right, there's a lot more than just Trump wins the election. You also have to have Trump is convicted, jailed, wins the election, and then the state rejects his attempt to leave because he's been convicted. But then what? Trump goes to the Secret Service and says, I want you to open the doors.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Let me out. And they're going to be like, yes. And they're going to open the doors. And George, what are they going to do again? There's a bunch of different possibilities. And I'm saying I don't know how this would play out, but this is the path they expect us to be on. Trump is the front runner. They're hoping he doesn't win.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They're also trying to put him in jail, in prison, not just jail, prison. Of course. If these two things collide, you're going to have the worst case scenario, federal agents in front of a state jail with state troopers armed saying, back off. We're not letting you take a prisoner out. And the feds being like, Trump is free to go. He's the president. Well, the U.S. Army and the National Guard and pretty much everything else, because they are.
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Starting point is 00:12:59 Do we have to have the inauguration in jail in Georgia? I mean, I think this entire thing was written by the screenwriters of the show Scandal, which starred Kerry Washington. That was just a political drama, right? It's so crazy to think that this is the extent that they are willing to go to
Starting point is 00:13:13 where it won't even make sense. How do we proceed forward, right? It kind of, to me, shows what a mockery all of this is. There are three other places that Trump has been indicted. What are they going to do after this? Like, it seems ludicrous. And of this is there are three other places that trump has been indicted what are they going to do after this like it seems ludicrous and yet this is what the democrats think they have to do to retain control of the country i don't know i don't know that i think
Starting point is 00:13:35 that it's the motivated by the democrats actually worrying about uh trump beating him i honestly i don't think that their their motivation is oh he might win again i really do think their motivation is we need to frighten people that might push back against the you know the bureaucracy i really think that the the the motivation is these if if if americans believe that they can elect someone that actually will be able to affect the bureaucracy that's bad for us so we want to deter that as much as possible whether that mean throwing january 6th people into jail uh shooting 75 year old men uh from utah or throwing their political rivals in jail how about both well i mean obviously all of them but that but i that's my point i really don't think that it's i think there's less fear of him getting elected
Starting point is 00:14:30 and more a show of force this is there's in in the past 10 or 15 years there's been a lot of things that have pushed back against the federal government's power like the bundy standoff was a significant pushback against the federal government's power like the bundy standoff was a significant pushback against the federal government's power and they lost that granted they killed one or one or two of them afterwards but the actual first standoff they lost that and that's you know they haven't lost a standoff since you know or that i can't think of the last time they lost it no they they won ruby ridge sort of i mean they killed people. They killed the people, but it killed their reputation. That caused irreparable harm to the FBI.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Led into Waco, sadly. Led into Timothy McVeigh. And I would say led into the feds calming down for a while. I mean, history repeats itself. Yeah, they didn't calm down. We're in 1968 again, right now. Even with an RFK Jr. There was a lot more bombings in the 60s and 70s.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Absolutely. The tools were different then. We have other things now. Yeah, that's true too. That's true. And the internet plays a substantial, a large role in what's happening too. Psychological manipulation, sock puppets, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:15:39 So, you know, I was thinking about this too with Elon getting rid of the block feature. And I kind of think he didn't explain it well enough, but I did realize something. Non-verified accounts are deranked. So you have less to worry about with, with spam accounts and things like that, because they're not going to appear high in your timeline anyway. So that is, that is a net positive. I would add, uh, a component of it. Why bring that up is it means that a lot of these fake accounts these sock puppets that are just intending to manipulate people for political causes are going to be less impactful based on the
Starting point is 00:16:09 moves that elon is making on x that's true my only worry about the blocking if we get into that bit is there's the issue of people who follow your account for the sole purpose of interacting with people you do follow or people who interact with you so like you post him and somebody's a motivated actor and everybody who responds to you or likes it they hit it and then they hit that account didn't you know that tim pool did this didn't you know he did this because we actually have stalkers who do that no it's like blocking is very handy to say look you can do what you want you can say what you want but i you're not going to use me to um harass my friends i don't like the idea of getting
Starting point is 00:16:51 rid of the block button but at the same time i don't know what he's actually doing to it right like because there's going to be other fun they've talked about there's going to be other functions like linda was saying there's gonna be other functions they're gonna be rolling out so i assume it won't be the same kind of block button but i also assume that they're going to address the things that people have concerns with because he doesn't want people being like oh yeah i would go and use x but all i get is inundated with hate or whatever he doesn't want people leaving so whatever the the thing he decides to do it's not going to be something that most users don't like because well i don't imagine that's going to be something that most users don't like because
Starting point is 00:17:30 they're very responsive responsive to the user so we'll see and i just don't i'm not going to go ahead and try to guess what what it's going to be like after they actually get rid of it yeah i tend to think getting rid of the block button is bad because you want the users to be able to control their profile as much as possible. If someone is getting blocked like crazy, surely the back end of Twitter can look into that if they want to. Part of it is because I don't trust the Twitter CEO. And so I feel like she has already made it clear that she is going to have her own strategy for allowing some people's content to reach other users and for others to stay sort of held back. And so the block feature taking away right after that kind of information makes it feel
Starting point is 00:18:13 like they are really trying to take the power out of the user's hands. I think Trump is out already. They're already leaving. So now we're just, I think, and I think now we're just waiting for the mugshot to drop. But Jason Miller says that Donald Trump will be speaking momentarily. So we have this up and we're just waiting to see what happens in the meantime. I guess we'll just. I hope he speaks from the prison doors.
Starting point is 00:18:36 That'd be great. They're at the airport already. Yeah. Jason Miller posted a photo in front of Trump Force One. And he says that Trump will be speaking momentarily. So really interested to see what Trump has to say. front of uh trump force one and he says that uh trump will be speaking momentarily so really interested to see uh what trump has to say and he's already i think he's already posted photos going into and out of so i think i think trump's out already i think he's out i'm sure i mean
Starting point is 00:18:55 secret service no secret service would not be playing they'd be like get this done now move move move it's heavily choreographed on yeah i can't yeah like time is a a thing for them as well i imagine you're right i think bongino was right trump should should not have posted no i agree he should have just been like do it because then they would have been like oh what do we what do you do yeah my showmate mark robert brings a good point too why are all these republicans running to georgia to surrender like lemmings? Why aren't they saying, screw you, come get me? Well, this is what I was saying. Trump should go to Mar-a-Lago. He should say, I've heard the reports on the television. They can serve me with whatever legal papers they want. And when they do, I'll respond.
Starting point is 00:19:38 This would serve two purposes. One, he's not going to surrender. Two, it would put Ron DeSantis in a decision dilemma. DeSantis either has to protect or abandon Trump in that regard. Is he going to allow the extradition of Trump from Mar-a-Lago? Instead, Trump just says, okay, you know, we'll go. I think Trump's thought about it, but I wonder sometimes because I don't think he's as strategic as a lot of people think he is. It's impulsive. Right. And I think he's probably just like, OK, we'll go do it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I think there's like little resistance there. There's little conflict. It's just like, we'll go do it. But I wonder if they're thinking if they just go through with this and keep putting the pressure on the Democrats to take these actions, they come out looking like the victims, like they're being attacked. It's political martyrdom. If that was the case, though, Trump should not have posted posted bond.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He should have said, no, you arrest me if you think I did something wrong. Yeah, I think that's an interesting point. I think a lot of people get advised to surrender so that they look compliant. Right. Like if you're if you're being accused of being a criminal enterprise, that's like trying to overthrow the government, then you want to look like, no, no, we respect the government and what they ask us to do. But I think there are probably kind of bolder steps that could have been taken.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I am kind of amused by how much of a joke this already appears. Like, I think Chris Burtman had a tweet that was like, this Brady Bunch reunion looks crazy and it's all of the mugshots that have come out. Like, being able to see this wave of people that you're familiar with in these mugshots does have sort of a ludicrous effect. People sharing it. Yeah. America's mayor, for God's sake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:11 From 9-11 to in a tie and a mugshot. Jason Miller just posted a photo of Trump boarding Air Force One at Signature Flight Support, a private airline terminal. It's the private terminal. And there are photos going around they are fake mug shots and now there are other photos going around that people are claiming are real phil just showed me one i don't think it's real i don't think it's a real mug shot you don't think so we're let's pull it over let's pull it over the newsroom is waiting to post an article about this with its mugshot, so I'm hoping that they'll let me know when it's up.
Starting point is 00:21:46 No, all the other ones had a badge around them. But this looks like actually looks closer lighting-wise, though, to the end. It's a better fake. No, but this is a photo of a photo. So they may have taken the mugshot and then someone snapped a pic on their phone. Yeah. That's interesting. I can't see him doing that as the mugshot, though.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Well, it could be someone inside that just snuck a quick snap and sent it out to their friends. Do you think he's going to smile or do you think he's going to look serious? He looks serious. I think stoic, but not scowling. I don't know. That doesn't feel like Trump. There's a couple people that smile doing mugshots, and I read some headlines today. I was like, why are they doing this?
Starting point is 00:22:21 This is not a joke. It's kind of a joke. It's absolutely a a joke people are saying it's fake people are saying that that's another fake mugshot so we'll just uh we'll i'll keep the uh the twitter feed ready for when that drops and as soon as trump starts speaking we'll uh we'll grab his speech in the time being though we got another story and this is where it gets crazy ladies and gentlemen director of black voices for trump is held in jail without bond harrison floyd becomes the first maga ally to be booked behind bars in the georgia election fraud case no bond they're starting light i think they're not locking everybody up because they're
Starting point is 00:22:57 they're slow rolling it they know they can't shock the system but yo this story's crazy look at this he says apparently fbi went to his house to serve him and he said, who the F do you think you are? Floyd allegedly screamed. The affidavit says describing that Floyd was standing chest to chest with the agent after knocking him back with his body in Georgia. Floyd is accused alongside Stephen Cliffguard Lee, a police chaplain and Trevian Cootie, Kanye West's former publicist of pressuring poll worker ruby freeman into falsely saying she committed election fraud freeman and her daughter shay moss who gave tearful testimony to the house select committee january 6 were subjects of a conspiracy theory echoed by trump and his allies this is a crazy thing did these people genuinely believe she committed fraud and they were going to her being like what did you do we saw videos is that a criminal act and now i got quite i don't i don't trust the government apparently they're saying that he assaulted an fbi agent he was charged with attacking an fbi agent well i strongly recommend you don't do that who was working with special on special
Starting point is 00:23:55 counsel jack smith's parallel probe in 2020 election interference by trump and his allies the washington post reported wednesday an affidavit says floyd body slammed an agent who arrived at his rockville maryland home to subpoena him before a federal grand jury in washington dc so my question is what is he being charged with in georgia right held without bond in georgia he was charged with racketeering conspiracy to solicit false statements and influencing witnesses so the fbi thinks a totally different case he's being charged very similar to many many of these other defendants and they're not letting him out things are getting crazy ladies and gentlemen the krasensteins you got to love them they have no
Starting point is 00:24:34 limit they will feign reason reasonableness and then they're like i agree with the charges against trump's lawyers for the simple fact they provided him legal counsel and it's just like i'm like dude you guys have to have a limit right like what is they're going to start rounding people up onto trains and the krasinskians are going to be like well now hold on we don't know exactly why they're rounding people up let's give them the benefit of the doubt dude they are arrest jenna ellis is being criminally charged under rico for simply being trump's lawyer that's it she didn't do anything else that's it part of a conspiracy insane think about it works though because now everybody's going to be afraid to represent trump or any uh republican figure or anybody else so it's effective which is exactly which goes back to my point that i was making before you know i really think this is about
Starting point is 00:25:21 intimidation i said this you know a couple nights, too. The establishment, when I say the establishment, I mean the bureaucracy that's in D.C. and likely the Democrat Party and their allies in the media. They don't want people to defend Trump. They want people to be afraid to associate with Trump. The Trump statement is up. Let's play the video. It's only one minute long. Ladies and gentlemen, here it is.
Starting point is 00:25:48 They did very well to have him just walk up. So I really believe this is a very sad day for America. This should never happen. If you challenge an election, you should be able to challenge an election. I thought the election was a rigged election, a stolen election. And I should have every right to do that. As you know, you have many people that you've been watching over the years do the same thing, whether it's Hillary Clinton or Stacey Abrams or many others. When you have that great freedom to challenge, you have to be able to. Otherwise, you're going to have very dishonest
Starting point is 00:26:19 elections. What has taken place here is a travesty of justice. We did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong. And did nothing wrong. And everybody knows that I've never had such support. And that goes with the other ones, too. What they're doing is election interference. They're trying to interfere with an election. There's never been anything like it in our country before. This is their way of campaigning.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And this is one instance, but you have three other instances. It's election interference i agree and my question is this if the democrats are campaigning as trump said off of this and they are this uh this fulton da launched a fundraiser then republicans will have no choice but to campaign on the exact same issue in the other direction and if the democrats are saying vote for us and we will imprison anyone you hate and the trump supporters are saying we will get revenge and go after those who are weaponizing the legal system where where does this end it doesn't it's like uh south korea from wind or sand um the last several leaders have all been in prison so it's like as soon as
Starting point is 00:27:22 the um next party gets in the last party guy gets locked up yeah and it sounds like illinois yeah yeah oh yeah yeah but i don't think it ends with with with just getting locked up the democrats are saying we will crush you the republicans mostly sitting on their hands but if a tit-for-tat does arise if trump gets re-elected the revenge will not just be on the deep state for everything they did during his first term. It's going to be on everyone right now for everything they're doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I feel like Kemp's going to have a really hard time when Trump gets elected. He'll be federally indicted. How could he not? If Trump gets, here's my prediction. If Trump gets reelected, election fraud charges across the board and tons of governors face, maybe not tons,
Starting point is 00:28:04 maybe a handful. We're probably going to see a bunch of Democrat officials. I imagine they'll be charged. If Trump wins, I cannot imagine a man so obsessed with 2020 does not remain obsessed with 2020. And then as we've already seen, you can indict a ham sandwich. So the people who are like, there's no evidence Trump wouldn't be able to do it. Yeah, that's not an issue. If Trump gets in and he gets an AG that is totally on board, you're going to see whatever they need pop up and there will be charges. And I have to assume that this makes Trump even more appealing to people who are genuinely
Starting point is 00:28:41 critical of the criminal justice system, right? Like people who feel like it's corrupted already for non-political reasons are looking at what's happening to Trump and saying, oh yeah, so he's experiencing it too. None of us are safe. He is, in some ways, becoming more of a candidate for people I would assume would typically vote for the Democratic Party because they're always saying, we'll fix this and Republicans are trying to lock you up. Yeah, exactly. I do not share your optimism about new voter new trump voters but um that being said one of the things that i noticed that i really liked that he said he said i believed it was a rigged election and it was that kind of uh
Starting point is 00:29:18 verbiage articulating it properly really, really, really matters because they are going to have to try to convince the jury that he believed that he lost and that he believed that it was a fair loss and he knew he was violating the law. They have to prove to a jury that what he what he believed is approved was in his head. And the only person that can screw that up is donald trump yeah you know his lawyers were like oh my goodness thank goodness he said it the right way yeah there's no ad lib here because he's already got oh it's already loaded against him he's got a bunch of a bunch of things stacked against him in the when it comes to people prosecuting himself and if he's not minding his p's and q's he can put himself in significant into a significant problem
Starting point is 00:30:11 well i hope that when when trump wins re-election assuming he does as he begins instructing the ag to go after people we get a really cool montage with like staying alive by the bgs and having sunglasses putting them on and then there's like a montage of like indicted indicted trump should have indicted people in his first term trump should have launched investigations when they were investigating him for russiagate he should have immediately said we are going to investigate the lies trump should have countered immediately and i'm not i'm not ragging on him for not not knowing at the future. I'm saying hindsight is 2020. Trump could have said, my fellow Americans, currently, there are political partisans that are accusing the highest office in this country of
Starting point is 00:30:56 being subservient to Vladimir Putin and the Russians. This is sedition. This is a lie. The American people have spoken. So we will be bolstering the investigation into these claims, but making sure it is holistic and covers all ground. And we figure out who is pushing the narrative and why. He could have said, yeah, yeah, I'm on board. Here's my guy joining in and then gone after Democrats for the Steele dossier, for instance. Why did it take so long for us to figure out that Hillary Clinton was the one backing that stuff?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Well, he needed people to tell him to do that because keep in mind, he was not a politician. If Tucker Carlson had just said it one time, Tucker, you know, then Trump would have been like, you know, I was watching Tucker. He says I should investigate. I'll do it. And then he would have done it. And we wouldn't be here right now.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Come on, Tucker. What are you doing? No, I mean, I think the there are a lot of things that I wish Trump had done while he was in office. And obviously we can't go back. My concern would be that he doesn't do something going forward. So if he's reelected, I would like to see some kind of action. I mean, you were saying before the show that Jim Jordan's investigation on Fannie Willis, you felt like maybe he should have called it earlier.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah. Hello. What time is it? I mean, how long ago was he charged? Is Congress that slow? You can't put it together. You can't say, hey, you know what, Fannie, how about you come up here Thursday? How about Thursday the 24th? Come on in front of Congress. That would have been beautiful. So while Trump is getting arrested, Fannie could be testifying in front of Congress. That would have been beautiful. So while Trump is getting arrested, Fannie could be testifying in front of Congress and enjoying her day in another location. Yeah. Yep, new thought. Because I assume she's down there
Starting point is 00:32:31 hanging out with all her friends, being like, our work is accomplished. Good job, everybody. And she should be sweating bullets, but they're doing nothing. Right. Well, I shouldn't say they're doing nothing. They are doing something.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I think I have the story right here from Forbes. GOP-led House Judiciary Committee opens investigation into Fannie Willis. So I don't know what else you can ask for. I think they should subpoena her and immediately call it like you said. It looks like they're just once again being like, we are going to be opening an inquiry into whether we should inquire about Fannie Willis. Right. The Republican-led House Judiciary Committee launched an investigation into fulton county georgia district attorney fannie willis as former president donald trump surrenders
Starting point is 00:33:11 himself to authorities after willis's office indicted him we get it this is jim jordan sent a strongly worded letter to willis thursday asking her to turn over information to the committee writing her indictment of trump and his allies involves substantial federal interests The letter claims Willis's indictment appears to be an attempt to use state criminal law to regulate the conduct of federal officials acting in their official capacities and raises whether Willis was coordinating with federal prosecutors in the Justice Department regarding her investigation. They got Trump on federal charges. They're going to go after his lawyers. question is will the supreme court intervene under uh this argument that trump was acting in his official duties as a member of the
Starting point is 00:33:52 executive branch and thus they are interfering with the federal government supreme court i imagine is going to say get out of here with this right they have to quash it or what i don't know it's a strongly worded letter though so i'm sure everybody's quivering oh yeah it just it cracks me panic ensues as soon as you get strongly worded letter i mean i i'm sure that she's laughing at probably passing around the office look at this look at this guys check out the letter he sent me a letter even a subpoena they they they're putting bannon in jail for for a subpoena. They're putting Bannon in jail for a subpoena. And this is all they can muster up.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Exactly. So he's being arrested. She gets a letter. They don't quite equate, do they? I mean, it's frustrating. You were talking, I believe, earlier today about leftist tactics. Oh, yeah. especially within the riot and that was making me think of something because my friend mark um show partner he's he grew up in that ilk and he kind of switched
Starting point is 00:34:52 parties over time and he's like you need to follow leftist tactics because they are effective yep and he's like why the hell don't republicans do it and i understand the conservative mindset well it's not dignified. And that's the problem, is the conservatives are like, that's unseemly. Meanwhile, Democrats are taking dumps in the streets in San Francisco. Bingo. And Republicans are like, well, I never. And then they're like, as the crackpots take a dump right in the middle of the street,
Starting point is 00:35:20 they're like, ha, we should arrest that guy. And then all of a sudden the cops show up at your house and you're like, how could you arrest me? I've done nothing. That's Republicans for you. They should, you know, honestly, I would like it if every single Republican was arrested. Just every single one of them. Just there you go.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And it's just like, oh, maybe now you'll do something. Be harder for them to do something, I think. But I think, I know what you mean. I think there is a lot of like, we shouldn't stoop to their level. We have the moral high ground. On the other hand, it's really hard to defend the moral high ground when you are actively losing territory. From jail?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, on every other front, you are ceding power. So we have to have a reconciliation somewhere. No, well, you've got to have ground to hold any high ground. I mean, there is no ground. If they're like, okay, cool, and then they just push them over. And you brought that up very poignantly about the tactics, things of that sort. there is no ground if if they're like okay cool and then they just push them over and you know you brought that up very poignantly about the tactics things of that sort oh i mean the the leftist tactics are advanced conservative right-wing libertarian etc just non-existent
Starting point is 00:36:16 the left does stuff like optics they understand optics so they'll get one of their quote-unquote journalists a video will come out showing a cop beating some guy and they'll be like, help, help, police brutality. And what the video won't show you is the guy punching the cop first because the person filming it will edit that out specifically to create propaganda. And they refer to themselves in the activist community, not as journalists, but as propagandists. Then publicly, they'll say they're a journalist to cover themselves. Because what was it Vosh who said he'll do anything to win or something like that. Yeah. He's essentially,
Starting point is 00:36:47 I mean, his, his philosophy is a consequentialist. So essentially the, the philosophy boils down to, and this is just a wave tops kind of idea, but it boils down to the results are what really matters. So how you get there doesn't that's.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And that's part of why likes and socialists tend to have that philosophy a lot because it's how they deal with the horrors of socialism they're like well once we get to the socialist utopia the millions and piles of dead don't matter because then no one else will die because of whatever the failings of capitalism that they're you know because our cult has established its goal except what happens is once they use these evil tactics to gain power they fear someone else using these tactics to gain power so they maintain an authoritarian regime which they were once fighting against they just become the new authoritarian regime and they get mad when you point it out well because they know that what they just did yesterday somebody's going to do to them exactly because they know the same tactics yeah so um yeah
Starting point is 00:37:35 it's a good survival mechanism i mean the system overall doesn't work it's low trust people don't get thrown into prison for nothing you know people use the government to remove their uh rivals that are are just in business or if someone's got a nicer office than you and you can call the government be like yo he had you know he was saying things that are against the party and the party comes and picks him up and next thing you know you get the job now i mean that kind of stuff happened all the time all over the eastern bloc countries and in when the soviet union was or when it was communist countries you know when they were all satellites of the soviet All the time, all over the Eastern Bloc countries when the Soviet Union was, or when it was communist countries,
Starting point is 00:38:09 when they were all satellites of the Soviet Union. I don't know, man. The reason there's a fighting chance is only because, and I'm not trying to rag on conservatives, but it's only because dissidents from the left have switched sides. Art, culture, and organizational prowess are coming greatly from people who used to be liberals and left who are now fed up and working with conservatives you know with all due respect
Starting point is 00:38:31 ben shapiro is still a rather stodgy dude right yeah he's a he's a guy in a suit who's very um i don't know preppy i guess you know the way we describe it in schools and i mean that with all due respect like he's a he's a proper clean-cut, well-mannered man. But that's the people like, I don't know, Phil, you're a rock star. You know what people are into, right? I mean, some. Yeah, but they're like, people want some freedom. They want some entertainment.
Starting point is 00:38:57 They want some edge. They want some punk rock. And now that, like, was it Johnny Rotten? Yeah, literally. John Lydon is right wing. And he's like, it's the left johnny rotten yeah literally john leiden is right wing and he's like it's it's the left that have become insufferable twats yeah and eddie you're starting to see people in you know in the more edgy kind of uh genres of music and stuff like that starting to push back you see you know like the guys in the defiant oh that's great defiant
Starting point is 00:39:25 and uh people were talking about ronnie radke and tommy vexed who pushes back against that kind of stuff i've been pushing back against this kind of stuff forever um and it's falling out of favor um they people don't want to be told how they have to interact with everyone they come into contact with they want to know they want to be like, look, I'm going to be polite and I'm going to try to be nice and I want to get along with people. But if someone mispronounces a word or says the wrong word or says, you know, says something that's newly insensitive, they don't want to have to worry about losing their job.
Starting point is 00:39:58 They don't want to have to worry about the repercussions. They don't want to have to worry about being debanked. And these are real things. Now, obviously the people that get debanked are the people that really push back against the narrative and stuff. But it's only for so long. Because as that type of tactic becomes something that works, it happens more. People will do it more.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And if they see that it works, the government will get into the business of it. Social credit scores will come here they are currently they're in china right now that is a real threat they're here now it's just being controlled by private entities look at paypal yeah to some degree yeah well it doesn't matter it's a weird situation where people are like oh well we're going to worry about the corporation things like that well the corporations are driving this you have paypal who is literally doing social credit score and taking people's money and then as far as punk rock well punk rock is against authority so who's in authority right now right so punk rock is going to be obviously right wing if left wing is in authority left wing
Starting point is 00:41:00 liberal establishment neocons etc yeah and it's it's it's not even about is this a funny thing the left will immediately say you're claiming that conservative christians who are wearing suit are punk rock no we're saying that anybody who is truly punk rock who would say i don't know wasn't it sid vicious who wore a swastika t-shirt yeah that would not fly with neolibs with the liberal and left establishment they'd lose their minds if someone dared do that punk rock was intending to offend you you you'd like you know and so now these these all these hall monitor types deeply offended by naughty words they're the antithesis of punk rock that's not the funniest thing it's like i'll give a shout out to hassan piker who is like it's funny because he is more like what's the what's the right word for Ben Shapiro?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Right. What's the word? Nerd. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about a guy who is clean cut, well mannered. Button up. Hassan is 10 times more stodgy and buttoned up than Ben Shapiro is. There is this veneer among the left of being edgy, but they're marching around chanting amazon.com slogans and Walmart slogans and being,
Starting point is 00:42:14 and it's just like, we have this, I just absolutely love Hassan calling Ian Crossland a conservative. That just right there shows you that it is a thin veneer of grifting. Bro, any reasonable person leftists for instance they call ian moon lord because they know he's a hippie dippy crystal weirdo and he rags on trump all the time who in their right mind would call this guy conservative unless
Starting point is 00:42:36 you're a grifter just saying whatever you think you need to say to earn internet points or you're a tribe and you're a cult because if you're in a cult if anybody strays from the cult or tribal narrative they're gone yeah but it only takes one even among woke leftists they call ian moon lord right they like these socialists who are very woke are like yeah he's not a conservative he's a weirdo he's a hippie weird they call him moon lord they laugh about it and they like sometimes when he when he yells at trump and stuff hasan is just i'm gonna say whatever you know if you're a on b i'm just gonna say whatever i think people are gonna you know click on he is like he is as establishment as establishment can be he's the dude in high school wearing the letterman jacket
Starting point is 00:43:20 pushing around the nerds hasan's got some serious audience capture he is terrified of his chat his chat runs him like mad if he says something if he says something the chat doesn't like the chat will let him know and and he will quickly evolve the what he's saying ladies and gentlemen the mugshot has arrived in fact that image we saw was real it was real it was a photo of a photo of the mugshot and cnn is reporting this is the fulton county mugshot of donald trump this photo is history in the making and i'm sure it will be on a plethora of t-shirts yeah and posters i would uh uh you know you guys feel free to make this but um i think we'll we'll make one we'll take that image of trump we'll put it on a poster so it looks like the obama hope poster but it'll say revenge instead
Starting point is 00:44:10 yeah and i would like to put one of those posters up and probably just how can we give them out for free can we like give posters that of trump it says revenge we could just do a mailing like yeah you could do a pdf and people could print it themselves at all sizes right and then anyone can just take it that's a good idea so i don't know do we have any from the crew listening they just make it and then we'll just publish it and be like there you go revenge yeah i like it the mugshot is here you know and some people were saying the uh fourth the fourth surrender would be meaningless and it would not would not matter nah this is this is it this is the moment the other ones were like slow build-up this right now with the mugshot well this is unpardonable so this has the teeth i mean new york is unpardonable
Starting point is 00:44:57 state charges but it wasn't election related right this this is clearly political for one simple reason the most famous man in the world does not need a mugshot so for trump can't walk down a street in peru and not like trump can be in utgafik utgagvik how do you pronounce it in alaska and they're gonna be like trump trump trump could be in the illusion islands on an abandoned military base and if anyone walks by for any reason maybe maybe yo the only place trump can go where they need a mugshot north sentinel island all right you can't do you get there you go they'd be like but that's the only place in the world except for like uncontacted amazon tribes i guess but if trump went to north central island they'd be like who are you actually they wouldn't say english they'd just be like what is this like it's a it's a crazy guy did
Starting point is 00:45:57 you see his truth about that no what did he say oh god it was hilarious he was talking about he goes i have to put up a bond because of my flight risk. And he said, well, gee, I wonder, would I possibly be leaving on my plane, my ever unrecognizable plane with a giant branding on it? He goes, no, perhaps I should fly commercial because no one would recognize me there. Go incognito.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yes, it was hilarious. It's dumb. I mean, this is something Trump proves over and over again, which is that he is the entity in and of himself. He's recognizable and people will flock to wherever he is. The Tucker interview had, what, 100 million views in less than eight hours? Yeah, it's at like 220 or 330.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's insane. People want to know what he's doing. There's no way that he would just not be noticed if he tried to sneak out of the country. And also, he's running for president, so he probably doesn't want to leave. He probably wants to be here on purpose. I think the mugshot is just for Democrats to fundraise on. You don't think it would be a good idea for him to campaign to people
Starting point is 00:46:54 somewhere in South America? I think he can do whatever he wants. I just think if you're the America first president, you want to stay in America. He's going to take a Secret service detail with him on his flight out of the it's just so ludicrous why is there a bond you know why is there a flight because it intimidates people and this isn't all about government intimidation why isn't the bond higher that's my current one like it should be 200 million if it's a legit if it was a legit bond yep i agree it would be 200
Starting point is 00:47:26 million or two billion dollars because he really is a flight risk and it's a problem but 200,000 that's pocket change imagine a mob boss indicted on all these counts rico they would not let him go there anyone else and that is not even high crimes if it's like the mob boss was engaged in a criminal enterprise where they were selling drugs you know and they were organizing and doing this and doing that we believe that he's a major flight risk we're not gonna let him out they'd be like yup and the lawyer would argue
Starting point is 00:47:56 be like how dare you blah blah blah he's innocent and they'd be like we have a preponderance of evidence Donald Trump's accused of trying to overthrow the government you'd think for that they'd be, we ain't on this guy anywhere. We're going to cut off his communications. He's dangerous. Nope. They're like, you're free to go, sir.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Have a nice day. Because it's political. They want to campaign off his mugshot as much as Trump wants to campaign off his mugshot. The danger is if both sides are using civil conflict for fundraising and generating votes, it only ends in one place. You eventually end up with a politician saying, look, they said, vote for me and I will put them in prison. Trump said it first and then didn't do it. Then they said it and now they're doing it. Trump gets reelected. Revenge. He starts doing it. Then they're going to say it's illegitimate. At what point does someone say no? And then there's a clash. I got to tell you, I'm looking at these videos and I'm
Starting point is 00:48:52 having scary, eerie feelings. What is the legitimacy of the squad car in front of the jail taking Donald Trump in on these BS fake charges? the police in Georgia, my fear is the actions they have just taken. There's a photo of them, like Trump's walking out and they're in front of them and things like that. It makes them look like they are illegitimate and they have no authority. I'm imagining this scenario. A police officer is, imagine this. there's a cop standing on the side of the street a homeless man walks up and says i want you to arrest that woman he goes you got it boss and then he goes and does it and you're watching it happen being like why are you arresting that woman that's some random homeless guy what we have here is that's my analogy I don't understand how they can expect to maintain a view of legitimacy of law enforcement
Starting point is 00:49:48 when one crime is skyrocketing. People are ransacking Nike stores and malls and grocery stores, and they're not arresting these people. With the COVID lockdowns, they punished regular innocent people and already conservatives were outraged. There's the videos of the cops stomping on the thin blue line flags. Now you have more than half the country, slightly more, that believe this is political and illegitimate, and they watch a police officer engage in plainly political illegitimate behavior.
Starting point is 00:50:19 The only thing now stopping people from disrespecting the rule of law is a fear of violence that was a large component of it but there was often i would say in this country there was a fear of a respect of authority and a fear of being shunned by the community so it wasn't just the cops could assert force over you for many people it was but for a lot of regular law-abiding citizens it was it's the wrong thing to do we respect the police the police don't respect you the police are letting criminals run rampant the police arrested that poor young man in new york who tried to save people on a train the police arrested kyle rittenhouse they put him in jail how could anyone watch what they're doing to a former president and think the police are acting
Starting point is 00:51:07 in a legitimate way? I, when I looked at the live video that outside, outside the jail and you got the squad car there, I'm just like, it looks like a clown car to me. I just, I don't feel it anymore. I do not feel it. It feels like these cops are, are, are derelict. It feels like they are illegitimate. and that worries me because if i'm seeing this now and i'm not even the biggest trump guy i can't imagine what anyone else is thinking about it no it's impossible i mean you're you're the history guy here does this remind you of anything else not in this country no um what other remind you of other countries yeah that's that's now i'm interested what other countries yeah well i mean you've got
Starting point is 00:51:44 brazil you know the most recently with lula and yeah i mean glenn greenwald talks about it and Mind you, other countries, right? Yeah, that's now I'm interested. What other countries? Yeah. Well, I mean, you've got Brazil. The most recently with Lula and- Yeah, I mean, Glenn Greenwald talks about it. And then from my understanding, Korea has been doing it. It's common in Eastern Bloc countries, things like that. But what about historically, when countries fall into revolution, regime change, war, civil war civil war i mean a lot of
Starting point is 00:52:08 people have said there are similarities between this and the spanish civil war i think that's i've heard that the most that this that what's going on here tracks alongside the spanish civil war more than anything else i haven't followed it so i'll take your word for it i don't know i don't know i have to look. I don't know anything about it. It just seems bizarre that this would be the route that, you know, we take. I mean, I was reading CNN today and they were saying this is unprecedented. First time in history something like this has happened. You want to say you think that's a good thing?
Starting point is 00:52:36 Like, do you think this is the direction you want to take the country? If you're the party that's in power, is this the precedent you want to set? I mean, theoretically theoretically if the scale sit back trump's elected or novel how many times have you heard the word that's novel charges we've never seen coronavirus novel charges never um the rico act is novel jack smith is novel which means we're making the shit up as we go where Where is any Republican to do the smallest bit? Don't get me wrong. Like, federally, we got Jim Jordan saying, you know, I hereby demand with a strongly worded letter.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I want to see what you've got in your documents. And it's like, well, she probably crumbled that up and threw it in the trash. Blew her nose in it first. Where's the subpoena? At the state level, where are the indictments? You've got, let me, you were going to say something.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Oh, I was just going to ask, do any of the, like the strong worded letter is obviously ridiculous, but at the same time, does he have to issue it to give her a chance to turn over the documents before he can get a subpoena? Like,
Starting point is 00:53:37 I don't know what the legal procedure is. Questioning her could be part of the investigation, right? I mean, we want to bring you in and talk to you about what's going on because how do we determine what we're charging or what we're actually writing out right get your ass over here we got a problem come come on up here it is crazy that she's not in dc answering questions take a look at this from benny johnson he tweeted this
Starting point is 00:53:59 earlier breaking fulton county d.a fannie willis regularly questioned election results and used her office to push unfounded conspiracies on the eve of Trump's arrest in Georgia for challenging an election. A deep dive into the prosecutor's history of doing the same thing. Here's one post. He said Georgia could determine who is our next president. A team of lawyers needs to watch them count every single vote. They can start in Fulton where we are having water leaks. What ballots are they throwing out?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Georgia, let's give an honest accounting no stunts he goes on to mention a deep dive shows that she is a hardened radical activist not an unbiased attorney her page is littered with blm propaganda fulton county d.a fanny willis blatantly and quite illegally used her office for partisan political activity imagine thinking you'll get just from a person who is a proud democrat there you go with the mug her father is a black panther really you didn't know that yes her father was literally a black panther you know the people who ran around with weather underground those folks every for the past 10 years we've heard people screaming and freaking out about Nazis and the right and blah, blah, blah. And yet the organizations that were actually mailing bombs around the United States in the 60s and 70s, well, all of their progeny, all of the children of that movement, all of the people that were informed by the thinkers of that movement, those people are in positions of power and in positions of authority in academia,
Starting point is 00:55:27 and they're making new radicals. And they're there still. Bill Ayers is still teaching in Chicago and still writing Obama's book. Mm-hmm. I mean, you can't get any better than that. But everything is fine. Don't worry about it. They're not radical at all.
Starting point is 00:55:41 The amount of redwashing that has happened to America, to Americans is ridiculous. And even with like McCarthyism in the 50s and stuff, and still there's been a massive amount of redwashing. Redwashing, like pro-communism redwashing? People just like hiding or downplaying communist influence and and communist theory and stuff like that and and talking about communist theory or like you know leftist theory and stuff like that but not telling people where it comes from that it or making the connection to the thinkers that so like they'll they'll talk about like say the say the influence was this person, right? But they don't tell you that this person's, their mentor or whatever was someone like Angela Davis or someone like Herbert Marquise or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:33 People that are well known as leftist thinkers. I can't remember his name, but the CIA director. Current CIA director? No, no, no. Which one? A couple back. The wolf? No, the really nasty one.
Starting point is 00:56:43 He looked like a bulldog. If you hold up a photograph of him, he looks like a bulldog. He literally voted for the communist party. Yeah, he was a communist. Yeah. I forget what his name is. I think he voted for Angela Davis. Yeah, he was a communist. a couple years ago, a nonprofit, it wasn't the ADL, but some research group put out a study on domestic terrorism. And they said, you know, right-wing extremism, white supremacy is what's leading the country in domestic terrorism. But they wouldn't release the data that they used.
Starting point is 00:57:14 They wouldn't release it so anyone could verify it. And they also excluded any environmental terrorism. So anything like Mother Underground, they didn't count. And so the data that they're working off of is inaccurate, but then they report the headline to freak people out. They want you to be misled on purpose. And I think that's the biggest issue that the average American has, which is that they don't have time to comb through everything.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And so they end up relying on the headlines, and the headlines are based on false information. And Elon Musk said they're going to get rid of headlines on x and i think it's a brilliant idea yep so i don't know exactly how they do it but i'm assuming that means when you post a link it's just going to show the body of text not the headline because what they tried doing first was it was like you didn't read the article would you like to read the article first which i liked what i love is uh i'll give you an example the daily beast ran a fake story
Starting point is 00:58:06 claiming that i was it said tim pool was accused of stealing a cat the real story was random person lies police confirm lie we ran headline anyway and so this is what they do you make a headline twitter at the time before it was x put the the story in the What's Happening page for like two weeks. And it was the weirdest thing. I'm like, what? What is this? And then the story at the bottom, it's like, police confirm it's not true. And they're like, but we'll put the headline anyway.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Well, that's my question. Because if you're going to do the body of the story, I want it to be paragraph eight if possible yeah because if you read the articles usually the articles the first couple paragraphs line up with the headline and as you keep reading the second half of the article disproves the entire first half welcome to modern journalism right but so which part are you going to actually clip as the preview which is a complete nightmare are you going to do three random sentences which could be interesting or what just the opening paragraph because you'll you won't get full context it'll just say something like today donald trump had appeared at the fulton county courthouse and dot dot dot well they're
Starting point is 00:59:11 such liars they'll say um shameful guilty scumbag president showed up i mean they literally are just trying to figure it out yeah yep yeah i love the uh the fact checkers trick the classical move where they'll do something like, you know, Donald Trump will do a backflip off of the White House and land perfectly. And then Snopes will write, did Donald Trump do a backflip perfectly off of the White House onto the lawn, dot, dot, dot on Sunday. And then they'll put false. And then they'll give this big, long winded explanation and very all at the bottom and
Starting point is 00:59:42 say, well, he did do a backflip. It was on Saturday. And so they add context to a story that no one offered and then claim it was false because of the context they add. I love it. I'll give you another example is Biden falling asleep. You saw that video. You mean he's bowing his head in solemnity?
Starting point is 00:59:57 Solemnity. Biden falls asleep. And what do what does everyone say? He's falling asleep. He appears to have fallen asleep. Yeah, for like 10 seconds. And then obviously in the video, he gets back up. I counted it.
Starting point is 01:00:09 It's 10 seconds. Then his eyes open. He coughs. And then he looks up. And I said, he looks like he's falling asleep. What did NBC News claim? They claimed that we said he was sleeping outright. They said, no, he's not.
Starting point is 01:00:22 We never said that he pulled out a pillow, laid down on the ground, took a nap. Said he was falling asleep. He clearly is. And they're like, in the higher resolution video, you can see that he opens his eyes. And it's not that we never said that he pulled out a pillow laid down on the ground took a nap said he was falling asleep he clearly is and they're like in the higher resolution video you can see that he opens his eyes and it's like we all you got us we're totally misleading you but they lie they mislead they claim what we've said was more extreme than what we actually said and then fact check us it's just absolutely insane also couldn't like i think you tweeted about this but a lot of people doze off in meetings while sitting still, especially people who travel and work a lot. Like he didn't nap on the ground. Like these things happen.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Instead they freaked out and both said, you guys are lying. Also, he was being very respectful. Like he's just really old and probably should not be living the lifestyle that he is being forced to live. Right? Like that's it. And you should accept it. But they can't because they can't admit anything is wrong with Joe Biden because he's their incumbent and they have to protect him at all costs. Like they're they're doing a lot of crazy stuff to Republicans, but progressive left that are controlling the Biden White House are also in a terrible terrible position they do not have a strong candidate going into 2024 that's why they're so desperate well they do have a guy who's kind of running
Starting point is 01:01:30 around and we're still trying to figure that out why is gavin newsom running around the country campaigning without actually campaigning isn't it weird it's going what did trump say about gavin newsom the other day on the tucker interview oh, he's actually really got along with him. We'll see. It's going to be interesting. Yeah, I think it's reasonable to say Biden is somehow removed from the race in one way or another. And then Gavin Newsom steps in. My theory, I don't know if you heard what I was saying about this a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:02:05 The best way for Democrats to pull it off is for Joe Biden to have a medical a medical episode on stage at a california rally where newsom is acting as a surrogate and then newsom runs out rolls up his sleeves and does cpr and joe biden saving his life joe biden then says you know the the difficulty and the strain has been too much for me and i can't you know blah blah blah but gavin newsom has proven he's the man for the nation. He does a press tour. Everyone says you saved the president's life. What is that like? And he's just like, you know, you got to do your duty in this country. That's that's PR gold. You could not hire someone, pay someone. There's no amount of money that would give you the historic PR. I have to imagine, honestly, too, if that really did go down that way, Joe Biden has some kind of of medically faints or something and then there's panic and everyone's screaming and like we've
Starting point is 01:02:49 all seen him trip but like so they're primed for it a more serious thing where like grips his chest and then he stumbles down and falls and the crowd gasps then gavin newsom runs out and saves his life his his favorability goes up to like 63 his approval rating among Democrats goes up to 99.9. He then says, you know, I never wanted to take the job. This is not my intention or my plan, but I will not let you down, Joe. And Joe's going to be like, thank you. Except for Kamala is going to be on the side with an ax going,
Starting point is 01:03:18 no, I don't think so. Unless a Supreme Court justice happens to be removed at the right time, she's not going to go away quietly because she's part of the alternate faction in California. But I think I think she does as she's told. And the question actually is, how do you get past Kamala? Because if we're going in order of succession in any normal political circumstance, if Biden is out for any reason, Kamala is next. No, she's there. I mean, the second he next no she's there i mean the second he stops she's there so he has to say i'm not running again but stay alive long enough for
Starting point is 01:03:50 so what happens is biden doesn't leave office he says you know while i'm recovering i think it's fair to say that i will not seek re-election due to the you know the concerns that people have for my health but i believe gavin newsom is that proven leader and kamala will agree you cannot beat that pr i don't i don't see any other way they remove kamala from the equation without looking really weird and clumsy well to build off your theory uh uh chief justice briars is retiring at the end of his term right so theoretically they could say kamala you get to be on the supreme court like to your point this is actually happening help us yeah and then she'll be like i don't need to run for president i'm going to stay in the supreme court forever and then gavin newsom is like great great great i will become president
Starting point is 01:04:32 nominate you yep and or joe biden i guess if he's around depending on when his you know medical emergency happens i mean we really do have this set up where it could work all the supreme court justices get lobbied to stay or not stay depending on what benefits the rest of the party kamala could say something like you know i was here for joe and you know with everything's going on i am overwhelmed and or she stays on his vp and says i think being the vice president and having gavin step in is is is fine with a two-term vp that'd be crazy i cannot see that because from what I understand, she and Gavin are not tight. So Supreme Court justice,
Starting point is 01:05:08 I could see them giving her, I mean, that's life. But that means he needs a different VP and she has to leave for some reason. But I agree. I mean, it's, I can't think of a scenario in which they can successfully
Starting point is 01:05:19 have Biden not run. And if they don't, then Kamala doesn't run. They've got barricades here yeah biden is they have no choice what are they going to do if they pull him out it looks weak and it's uncertainty and people are scared of it at the very least they might lose votes trump might not gain votes they might lose votes if biden's out then it's got to be kamala if it's not kamala what's happening like how do you how do you have have Biden and Kamala not be running at all?
Starting point is 01:05:45 And it's Gavin and someone else. Well, and Biden said explicitly, you know, one of his his goals was to have, you know, more diverse people representing the party at the federal level. So to a certain extent, people are expecting to become a for a lot of reasons. She just didn't work out the way they wanted her to. Like she would never pulled in a popular way. She does not have the charisma to carry off the presidency. But if they can shuffle her off,
Starting point is 01:06:09 they can power broker her into the Supreme court. Maybe they'll be able to pull someone up from the bench. I think Gavin Newsom will have challenges all the time because I think the democratic party is sort of split on the face that they'd like to see in the white house. But he is the only person on their bench after the two current president and vice president. And he's going to debate.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Is he still debating DeSantis? What's up with that? I think so. Which is weird. I mean, think about that for a second, because again, he's not running, but we do have precedent. Remember I said 1968.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yep. Well, what did we have in 1968? An extremely corrupt president who did not have the best health who stepped out of the race and then we had a robert f kennedy enter the race and take over so lbj and biden are really similar there's a lot of parallels there the corruption the family money the tv station and and how long was kennedy in before lbj uh two three years yeah yeah like was not a full presidential right run so you get trump in for a year and then biden steps in so there are other similarities in the duration politico is reporting that the gavin newsom
Starting point is 01:07:25 ron desantis debate is at an impasse because of issues fox is having so it was planned for november but i guess it's like maybe not gonna happen okay gavin ron come on down we'll do it we'll turn the camera on and go live culture war yeah no but in all seriousness it'd be cool if we did but how hard is it for them to turn on a webcam and be like, let's talk? No, they have to use mainstream media, Tim. Otherwise, you're a fringe right-wing candidate. That's right. That's right. From what I understand, DeSantis isn't going around on podcasts anywhere.
Starting point is 01:07:53 He's finally learning, I guess, now, but he seemed to be allergic to it. Oh, man, Vivek is hitting the nail on the head with a hammer. He's been going on every podcast he can. He went on Alex Stein's live show and got asked about 9-11. They're using that against him. But Vivek's just like i'll go on anyone's show like let's get the word out i think vivek understands the balkanization of media spaces and bobby kennedy absolutely yeah both of them i mean oh yeah he said podcasts are going to play a huge role yeah in this election yes obviously i can't remember if it was vivek or larry elder that week
Starting point is 01:08:24 that we had both of them on but one of them was talking about doing the podcast like a podcast style thing like fireside chat from the oval office like it is cool to see these people embrace new media especially as we can see i don't know that fox will ever go completely away all entirely but it doesn't have the power it used to let's talk about this uh story we got here. The Georgia judge sets October 23rd trial date for Trump co-defendant Kenneth Chaseborough. I think that's something y'all should consider. Let me first give you a little context. A Georgia judge on Thursday signed off on a quick turnaround
Starting point is 01:08:56 to the start of the trial for Kenneth Chaseborough, one of the 18 defendants charged alongside former President Donald Trump in connection with the alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. The ruling scheduling an October 23 start date came to set for Trump's newly appointed attorney said he would move to sever the former president's case from Chase Borough or any other defendant who sought an expedited timeline. What are the chances? And I understand some people might say it's not legally possible. I don't care. What are the chances Kenneth Chase Borough convicted?ot convicted convicted november and then they
Starting point is 01:09:27 say donald trump was charged for the exact same things and if this guy was convicted trump should not be on the ballot either because he's a co-conspirator we we moved to 14th amendment his name off the ballot yeah except he's charged not convicted doesn't matter trump shouldn't be charged in the first place his lawyer should be charged in the first place my point is this several months ago if i were to tell you they're going to indict jenna ellis for being trump's lawyer people would be like well they can't legally legal counsel is a protected is protected in the constitution and that they did so they'll have their pr excuse but i don't know trump was the mastermind but can they charge
Starting point is 01:10:05 someone's lawyer can jenna ellis is accused of accounts one and two literally being part of a criminal experience a conspiracy and solicitation of a violation of oath of office literally just because she was trump's lawyer other people in the charges were reaching out to people and asking them to do things jenna's counsel, John's one and two. We said this months ago. Oh, they can't indict Trump. A former city president never happened.
Starting point is 01:10:29 But then they did that or a year ago. Sure. We, oh, they're not going to go after his lawyers. They are. I said, next up is media personalities.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Now we're hearing James O'Keefe is under investigation, criminal investigation in New York. It's going to keep happening. That's why I'm saying like, yeah, maybe, maybe the legal theory is trump's not been convicted but the argument they will make is trump was the mastermind who ordered
Starting point is 01:10:51 chase bro to do these things for which he's been convicted that proves it as far as anyone needs to understand that trump is an insurrection i don't know that it matters because eugene b debs eugene b debs was a socialist who ran for president multiple times from prison there's precedent yes but they'll remove his name from the ballot under the 14th amendment trump can run all he wants and they'll just like yeah that's fine but your name won't be on the ballot because the 14th amendment says you're an insurrectionist you can be a socialist in prison and still run that we know but they're they've already done this to um what's the guy's name in New Mexico? You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 01:11:27 New Mexico politician got removed from the election because they called him an insurrectionist. They tried using it on Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn. You want to look? You look at it. But he's not convicted. What I'm saying is that if he's not convicted, technically, until he's convicted, how do you remove his name from the ballot? He's still charged. You can't say. Removing someone's name from the ballot of the 14th amendment would be novel well everything's novel so exactly and so the issue is this what's his name it's um koo griffin koi griffin koi griffin thank you koi griffin that's right
Starting point is 01:11:59 he they said he was an insurrectionist so he's's ineligible now. Donald Trump is the mastermind of the conspiracy who gave the instructions, right? Allegedly. Allegedly. And if this guy is convicted, what does he say in court about what Trump told him to do? And then they can say, this is not about a criminal conviction of Donald Trump. This is about a statement of fact sworn under oath that donald trump instructed an individual to assist him in insurrection thus disqualified uh as an elected uh to run for office his name should be removed from the ballot i'm not saying that they
Starting point is 01:12:36 might not try that but that's one of those where you got to get really blackpilled i hope at some point the supreme court saying well he's not convicted yet. Dummies. I mean, let's hope that maybe the cover of the Constitution can remain. They're not. But I'm not talking about the criminal case. I'm saying in this criminal trial of Kenneth Chase Burrow, he will be asked, what did Donald Trump tell you? Thus, they will launch a civil suit against Trump outside of any requirements of criminal conviction to say witness testimony in a criminal case.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Trump instructed these people to engage in insurrection, adding on top January 6th statements, people storming the Capitol, all of that. The play clips out of context. This will add to we're not trying to criminally charge him. That's a totally different case. We're saying he waged insurrection, therefore he's ineligible. Yeah, I don't know. That's where I'd say, please get Robert Burns in here and ask him that because- But it's not a legal question.
Starting point is 01:13:32 It's a political question. Election law. Well, it's election law too. I mean- Considering they've indicted Trump's lawyers, I don't think it's a- Well, ballot access is absolutely election law. Right. The valid access is absolutely election law. Right, but they could do anything they want because the law is not written by the Lord. Law is written by men and is ignored all the time.
Starting point is 01:13:54 The fact that they've arrested Trump's lawyers sets the standard they can do anything they want. They will make up whatever they want. So my question is just you know maybe you're right maybe it's just this is the line where they say well we've we've violated the constitution we've we've created new novel ways of prosecuting people but this one time we stop well i'm kind of hoping that this fails i mean it is dark obviously they're arresting counsel and i find it completely disturbing and i hope there's a backlash and that's why i'm pissed off about a lazy ass congress that's not pulling her up there because the feds need to be coming
Starting point is 01:14:29 down and they need to be saying what the hell's going on the state managed to get it together they managed to get two houses in georgia itself that is landing an investigation of her we've got this problem why isn't jack smith under investigation why are we being so damn lazy on one side well maybe because we really kind of like the idea that trump's getting put away maybe we kind of want another candidate to come up there maybe we like you know there is only one side though well you get the unicons exactly sure so they're they're sitting there going like no wait don't democrats and't, Democrats. And we're going, yeah, you tell them. And then they go to the same parties and hook up with the same escorts and drink the same wine. Right, they hate populism.
Starting point is 01:15:13 They hate the people. Yes. Yep. Plain and simple. I mean, even if they don't hate the people, they're at the very least not interested in serving the people and interested in maintaining their own power and staying in Washington, D.C. and, you know, eating the good food and living in the nice places and going to the nice places and stuff. So, you know, and they're indifferent to the, you know, to the what is actually legal, you know, what the law says. These are the people that when you go to the halls of Congress and
Starting point is 01:15:43 knock on the door and you walk in, they're all smiling and saying, how can we help you? And you're like, I just wanted to, you know, leave a letter for the congressman. They'll be like, thank you so much. And then when they walk out, they'll go, oh, they start wiping themselves off. And the congressman pops up, goes, it was in here. They don't like you. These these people don't like you. There's like 12 members of Congress, maybe 20 that like you.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Overwhelmingly overwhelmingly they don't they're all you are is a number they're having meetings with their consultants saying look i just want to get more votes what do i need and they're like people like red have you considered wearing red you'll get more votes that way they don't go to someone and say what you constituent you're a farmer what should i wear a red tie or a blue tie so i i don't think it matters i'm wondering why the prices are going up for my cost for my fuel it's like okay well i'm gonna wear the red tie that's what they are they're not actually they're not actually i this is why i think we were talking to um return of freedom caucus i can't remember which one
Starting point is 01:16:37 he said that they had the votes to overturn obamacare and republican leadership came to him and said but don't do it because we're going to use this to campaign they do not care about you that's it's just it's got to stop man and i don't know that maga is it but certainly whatever it is populism is bringing is politicians who are actually talking with constituents and maybe this is it maybe this maybe it's social media for all of its uh for all of its negatives has some positives in that as we form our own communities where we care about issues the representatives that we elect share share those values in much the same way because they're part of the same spheres well you had to sponsor right you were
Starting point is 01:17:19 just talking about what public square yeah well that. I mean, what's happening with Bud Light is a real thing. Yeah. And I really do believe Andrew Breitbart was correct when he said politics is downstream of culture. Yep. And if the culture divide, you've got a show about culture, that's going to push the politics because they can't afford to keep going against it if the culture turns they have to go with it ultimately right so you agree you've got to change the culture i completely agree that's everything that's why you know most of the stuff most of the stuff we do here we'll talk politics but most of our investments are not political i see no point
Starting point is 01:18:03 i've donated to political candidates a bunch of times, but I don't see a real point in doing that. I'll put it this way. Tucker Carlson, where is he most effective? Doing a show or being president? What do you think? Sure. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:16 The cultural force of him coming out and talking to people and inspiring people, way more important than signing an executive order. Oliver Anthony, you're banned. Absolutely. he's most effective when uh he has a show and trump is the president because then trump just listens oh yeah well there's that too that's a cultural pipeline yeah exactly trump's on air force one just watching tucker carlson that's what he did he's got someone taking notes for him while he shows down yeah i wish we get some like behind the scene footage of them hanging out in maine while they like filmed that interview
Starting point is 01:18:47 no they were in bedminster oh they were i'm pretty sure tucker went to new jersey yeah i don't think trump's gonna travel to you know i just know that's where his studio is or that's where he was here's another thing to consider maybe the real reason or a reason trump didn't go to the debates there's no way he can go to milwaukee debate and then fly to atlanta the next day turn himself in i heard it was pre-recorded though no no i'm saying if he flew to milwaukee for a live debate oh well yeah and then he left at midnight and flew back and then he has to fly back the next day that's brutal but he was saying that he wasn't gonna he wasn't really interested in doing the debates for way before
Starting point is 01:19:26 Georgia indicted him. He could have turned himself in before or whatever. Yeah, well, and like he has been saying, I don't see the point of this. I'm clearly in the lead. All of you guys
Starting point is 01:19:33 are just going to, you know, try and attack me. Like, it doesn't, it only benefited the RNC if Trump won because more people
Starting point is 01:19:40 were tuning in to watch. And Fox. Yeah, you saw that they, they wouldn't let Don Jr. in and Kimberly Guilfoyle. Which is crazy. And Larry Elder, which by the way, I'm super annoyed about that.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I'm really annoyed because you had Tim Scott. Seems like a great guy. But come on. If you could have Tim Scott or Larry Elder in a debate. Now hold on there a minute. I would not mind. Tim Scott's actually polling really well. I think he's doing better than Chris Christie. I'm not just saying any of he's doing better than a lot. Chris Christie?
Starting point is 01:20:06 I'm not just saying any of them, but I'm just saying if you're going to... Hutchinson? Well, Hutchinson, come on, come on. Oh, speaking of that. Larry Elder is leaps and bounds above. All of them. Especially if the Democrats are going to try and field Newsom, which he directly challenged Newsom.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Like, Larry Elder should be on the debate stage because he is interesting. He's representing California. I think he's well-spoken. He's got a lot of power. But also, if Gavin Newsom is the future of the Democratic Party, because we don't think Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are really going to be able to make it to the next term, Larry Elder is exactly who the RNC should want on the stage. I don't understand why that's not obvious. Not only that, the way two of the candidates got in there, Hutchinson and Bergen both bought the donations with gift cards.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Right. Which is disgusting. So you have Larry Elder who actually did get the donations. Who burned them, yes. The old-fashioned way, going on the breakfast club, having to fight with other people. Coming on TimCast IRL. Several times, yeah. Big fans.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Versus these people who are literally saying, hey, if you donate a dollar, you get a a $20 gift card two candidates out there and nobody's talking about it people are talking about it i guess the only way the republicans they they love getting pushed around by people playing dirty money yeah it seems crazy and they're they're like oh the poll this is the issue like i just i don't understand what the republican party's issue with larry elder is and i think that they are hurting themselves it's you know i have maintained for a long time that debates are boring they're ineffective like everyone gets 45 seconds to see we raise our hands like it's ridiculous but if we're gonna have them at least have people on stage who first off people are donating for to but also who are advocating for interesting ideas
Starting point is 01:21:44 like that's one of the reasons vivake is performing so well he has all of these interesting approaches i don't agree with everything on his platform but he is a breath of fresh air larry elder is uh you know he's been talking about politics for a long time he's got really interesting positions on immigration and on school choice i don't understand family right why would the party not want him there especially when he played by your rules? No, he's very conservative. I mean, Larry Elder is a mainline, family-oriented, old-school conservative.
Starting point is 01:22:16 He and Ben Shapiro walked the same path in many, many ways. So it's mind-blowing why they don't want him in there. Man. No, it's not. Justice for Larry Elder, you know what I mean? For real, I he he he would have been amazing on that debate stage yes they they are playing dirty i can't just say i loathe the the rnc ronald mcdaniel come on we could have had harmeet dylan i hate her harmeet harmeet dylan is active engages with people she She communicates. She fights.
Starting point is 01:22:45 She would have been way better for RNC chair. Nope. They like losing, but I don't think they're actually losing. I think it's Washington generals. Oh, whoops. They're supposed to lose. That's it. It's just sad because I think we should want to hear about ways to help the country and the people who have the innovation, who it is annoying to see people shut out from this
Starting point is 01:23:26 party that is saying, well, we all have to pledge to beat Biden, but they are excluding people who are potentially offering ways to do that. I have an idea why, maybe. I just thought of it, literally. Larry Elder preaches independence, like people to meritocracy, people to stand up for themselves and to achieve what they're seeking. And if people are achieving things for themselves, running their own business,
Starting point is 01:23:52 doing their own thing, they're not dependent anymore on the government. So people like Larry Elder are truly a threat to the unit party, whichever side it's on, because he's preaching independence yep let's jump to this story this one's really interesting it's uh it's political but not related to the debate or anything justice department sues spacex for discriminating against asylees and refugees
Starting point is 01:24:18 in hiring that's right ladies and gentlemen elon musk hires too many american citizens for this he is being sued the The DOJ filed a lawsuit today. By the federal government. Yep. They said from September 2018 to May 2022, SpaceX routinely discouraged asylees and refugees from applying and refused to hire or consider them because of their citizenship status in violation
Starting point is 01:24:37 of the Immigration and Nationality Act INA. In job postings and public statements over the several years, SpaceX wrongly claimed that under federal regulations known as export control laws, SpaceX could hire only U.S. government. I mean, it's literally NASA. Essentially, it's the reason that Americans can get into space. This, again, I think this is political. I think this is the federal government going after Elon Musk because they don't like the things that he's doing in other areas. I don't think that it has anything to do with SpaceX behavior.
Starting point is 01:25:21 You think they're mad about the block button? You bring that back right now. That's probably what it is. Maybe Twitter files too. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, that's the long and short of it as far as I'm concerned. He's cutting them off from their information pipeline. Or is it X-Files?
Starting point is 01:25:36 X-Files now, yeah. Think about how easy it would have been if you were in the intelligence agencies to get information because you didn't need a warrant, they just handed it over. Now, Elon is dragging his feet or outright saying no and cutting off their access. So they're like, let's get revenge. But also consider this.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Think about the political ramifications here. Elon Musk didn't hire enough non-citizens for his company in the United States. That's another thing that blows my mind. They're talking about non-citizens. There was a time where I thought it was illegal to hire people that are non-cit-citizens i mean obviously that's what i thought you know like you know like what so i could just hire anybody i want now we can we can get all our video editing done in peru apparently save some money chinese video editors so they're saying please contact their civil rights division if you applied for a job at spacex and were rejected you were discouraged from applying because you're not a u.s citizen
Starting point is 01:26:28 that's what no i love that civil rights by the way civil is part of what we're wait civilian that's right i'm very confused no it seems ridiculous i mean i i think the biden administration obviously doesn't care about the American worker. I think if he did, he would bring manufacturing jobs back from other countries. And I think this guise of being like, well, we're anti-discrimination is actually another form of let's make it more difficult for American workers to get a job. And that's kind of disgusting for this apparently working man, blue collar or whatever he claims to be president. How big of a deal do you think immigration is going to be on the election? You think it's going to be it's not going to be big enough. It never
Starting point is 01:27:13 is. Right. And, you know, Ann Coulter was saying it's the key issue and that's the issue that helped Trump win in 2016. But I'm not convinced. I talk to regular people and they never tell me that's a concern they have what's a swing state issue so right border will arizona be in play i don't know texas is going to pretty much probably stay red but texas is purpling over time florida is not changing because they had a problem immigration worked against them they they get the wrong countries because remember they they love immigration but they don't like cubans okay as an example because cubans are not the right kind of immigration for them
Starting point is 01:27:51 they vote the wrong way exactly somebody made a good point uh leor engelstein and super chat said alternate headline doj sues spacex for only hiring u.s citizens to work on potentially classified military technology yeah i i thought that there would be ITAR stuff. I mean, that makes sense to me, international trade and arms and stuff. Like, this is all rocket technology. This stuff is all about, you know, all of it's got some kind of classification, whether it be secret, top secret, or whatever. It's not information the feds want spread around.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I don't, you know, I figured they would have it under the octar stuff. You think they care. They want to be secretive. I mean, you buy night vision stuff. You can't, you're not supposed to take that out of the U.S. You can't sell it to people that aren't U.S. citizens. There's lasers and stuff like that. There's all kinds of infrared stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:41 And that's just like small arms stuff that like, I mean, night vision is cool, vision is cool but you know you're not gonna get a nuclear weapon into space with them you know yeah so yeah i have no idea and it's confusing you're a military right no i mean not seriously like i was in the military when i was a kid like in the 90s i didn't do anything like there was a whole war that i had nothing to do with so i don't like to talk about like doing anything. Cause I did nothing. Well, you and I both. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I was in the nineties too, but we had ITAR and then I was working for a defense contractor. I don't know how many courses I went with ITAR. You cannot release the information to anybody. This is just a defense contractor and it could be toilet paper. They're weird about it. I think Elon is extremely disruptive to a lot is extremely disruptive yep to a lot of the narrative machine a lot of the establishment and we're probably going to see a lot of moves that
Starting point is 01:29:31 make no sense being made against him this this one right here makes very little sense it reminds me of what they're doing to trump right like they are desperate to make something stick they don't like people who challenge their narrative and so anything that they can say you know this uh south african native is discriminating against immigrants at his company like they just want him to be the bad guy and they'll do whatever they can to get the headlines right i mean and they'll keep they'll keep they'll keep doing this i mean x is paying people this is that's huge people are going to start using that platform for a lot of things. It's going to cause a rapid shift in our culture in that people are engagement farming and things like that. But for the most part, when we talk about how do you wake people up to what's going on politically,
Starting point is 01:30:16 in the past couple of weeks, we've been saying, tell your friends and family to sign up for Twitter, a.k.a. Axe. Because you're not going to be able to convince them Joe Biden did bad thing, but you can convince them to sign up because then they can share you, share stuff with you. So when you're talking to your, your, you know, liberal aunt or uncle and they say something like,
Starting point is 01:30:34 yeah, well, Trump did this. It'd be like, oh, I didn't hear that. But you didn't hear it. How did you not hear it?
Starting point is 01:30:37 I'd be like, why don't you sign up on X? You can send it to me. Like, send it to me on X. Are you on X? You're not? Well,
Starting point is 01:30:42 sign up so you can send me a message. Then they're going to be on. Then they'll start getting access to a wider array of information i'm not saying gonna make them conservative or anything like that it'll just make them go oh yeah i did see that video and then you can at least you don't got to argue with them that it did or didn't happen that's a good approach for that reason yeah i think elon is in the crosshairs is an understatement but i don't know what else they can do let's see what what musk can do no what they can do to musk i mean we'll see how we'll see look i gotta i think all of the stuff they're doing in terms of indictments the targeting of uh all of trump's allies and his lawyers this it's desperation it's pure panic yeah looks like it
Starting point is 01:31:22 i think it is for sure i mean that's why I am convinced that although a lot of stuff has happened to Republicans, you have to keep looking at the Democratic Party and saying you guys are going on the offensive because you actually don't want to be on the defenses because you would fail, right? You don't have a strong bench. You don't have strong candidates. Joe Biden's record is not good. And so they're actually going into this election, I feel like, and I'm not an expert, in a very weak position. And so unless they can get Trump indicted, unless they can take out this super performing candidate who is likely to win the nominee, they are sort of stuck. They need this to happen. Otherwise, what are they going to do yeah and if they can bloody him up enough
Starting point is 01:32:06 and stall him enough i mean a lot of it's just maybe they're thinking eventually he'll give up i don't i don't think he will run out of money bud light target sound of freedom richmond north of richmond cultural victories across the board and this and this matters when they say that 12th grade men are skewing conservative. Consider that in the 2024 election, 12th grade boys are old and are going to be old enough to vote. Many of them already are, and they will vote for Trump. There's a reason why they become conservative. Hey, maybe they're watching too much Andrew Tate. I think this is why they, for real though, the reason why they banned him so quickly and rapidly across the board before, like he's gaining tons and tons of followers, but he wasn't cracking into real though the reason why they banned him so quickly and rapidly across the board before like
Starting point is 01:32:45 he's gaining tons and tons of followers but he wasn't cracking into like the the political zeitgeist no definitely but he was building influence and all of a sudden they just ban him everywhere yeah because he's getting a bunch of young dudes yep to like start listening and they're not gonna vote liberal democrat whatever can't allow that. Jordan Peterson, too. Yeah, just recently. Yeah, not Jordan Peterson. That's to be re-educated. Yeah. That's something, man.
Starting point is 01:33:10 I think that I really wish that Americans would pay a little more attention to what's going on in Canada. Where? In the hat. In America's hat. Canada. It's really hard. Americans have a hard time paying attention what's going on canada personally because canada seems irrelevant to them but also canada is always trying to be like
Starting point is 01:33:30 ah but america is the crazy place i think they like to direct attention away from themselves we we we declared our independence from canada after inventing corn syrup because you know we had to get all our maple syrup from canada and breakfast you know what are we supposed to do and canada had that strangled then once once we invented high fructose corn syrup we could make fake syrup and put maple flavor in it and that devastated the canadian economy but it freed the americans for to have breakfast and vermont agreed because they were like fine we will be the only place you can get real maple syrup we'll have a monopoly on it in the country oh it was big it was big vermont maple that spearheaded the campaign to get a monopoly on maple.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Now maple's super expensive, you know? I have made all that up. None of that's true. I'm kidding. I hope people realize that. No, it's 100% true. Tim is a historical corn syrup, maple syrup conflict expert. I will say we got some of Cousin T's pancake mix and stuff
Starting point is 01:34:21 sent to us. I'm really excited. We're waiting for Terrence to come on down. Terrence just hilarious we're gonna make some for breakfast he's so are you familiar with terrence williams and the thing he did with cousin teas so after aunt jemima got pulled the image from all these you know syrup bottles and boxes he made his own pancake mix it's actually legit like the ingredients are legit it's not just like basic nothing it's a lot better than i think than aunt jemima's and uh he put his face on it and uh it's absolutely hilarious i am deeply offended that they removed aunt jemima from my pancake syrup and my pancake mix because i liked aunt jemima yeah like i don't know i was just like the thing at the store with
Starting point is 01:35:00 the little breakfast i'm like oh look at that and then they they start removing anybody who's not white from all of these products it's just the most racist and insane thing i've ever seen but anyway terence he he uh made his own and we got sent his breakfast syrup and his pure maple syrup and immediately you know everyone here being as snooty and as scared of seed oils as they are they were like like, whoa, corn syrup. What is this? And I'm like, to be fair, Cousin T's lower cost breakfast syrup is just corn syrup.
Starting point is 01:35:32 It's not high fructose corn syrup. And regular corn syrup is actually not that bad. It's the high fructose stuff that's really, really bad. But he's not a crazy guy. He has pure maple syrup too, which is expensive to get. So we have some of his real maple syrup and some of his corn syrup. But once he comes down, we're going to have him on the show. We're going to film in the morning as he makes pancakes for us and shows us how it's done.
Starting point is 01:35:53 That's going to be awesome. I'm really excited for that. Anyway, let's read some Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us. become a member and we're going to have a members only uncensored show coming up for you in just about a half an hour and more importantly for all of you who didn't already you can purchase your tickets to the miami event
Starting point is 01:36:16 october 6th they are at timcast.com in the menu bar timcast x miami you click that and we're going to have pat, bet David, Donald Trump, Jr. And Matt Gates with Luke and I, we will be, we'll be hosting the event beforehand. I don't,
Starting point is 01:36:33 I don't want to say too much about the full details just yet until we can confirm everything, but we're really, really excited. Public square sponsoring it because we are just absolutely huge fans. And I'll say this, the guys over at public square, we are lucky to have you guys as sponsors because we would shout absolutely huge fans. And I'll say this to the guys over at Public Square. We are lucky to have you guys as sponsors
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Starting point is 01:37:02 and you can look on a map of all the businesses that share your values so you can avoid bad businesses that are going to use your money for bad things and support businesses that agree with you and your values. And that's how we win. Parallel economy. So I'm super, super excited and honored to have them involved. We got a bunch of cool plans to giving out swag bags and things like that. So it's going to be a whole lot of fun. I'm really excited for Miami.
Starting point is 01:37:26 And I think, you know, October is probably a good time to be down in Miami. Won't be too hot. It'll be cooling off a little bit. All right. Let's read some more. I'm not your buddy. Guy says collectivists across the West seem to be OK with sending their political opponents to jail or worse, their removal from existence.
Starting point is 01:37:42 We must realize the and then just cuts off. Oh, there it is. Fight is now. And whether i like it or not the u.s should it fall there is nowhere you can escape to in the globe the last stand is now i think every it's important to clarify every time what we're seeing with these indictments with you know going after elon fear it's afraid bud light probably sent them it terrified them these these these woke organizations they're losing their grip on the institutions i mean it's the craziest thing to me that skateboarding went woke i'm like you mean to tell me the guys who post videos to this day of them punching security guards committing crimes and bringing law are terrified of saying naughty words.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Well, I don't want to lose my sponsors. I can't tell you how many pros I've met who are like, well, you know, like, we'll skate, we'll film, but I can't speak up because I'll lose my sponsors. And I'm like, why would you lose your sponsors? That's like the weirdest thing. It doesn't matter. We got to keep our heads down. And I'm like, okay, dude. But, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I do think it's turning around a lot of big name skateboard pros are not just being like dude i don't even care anymore i'm sick of the weird nonsense that's going on let's read some more jonathan e says rip dave smith 2024 also i found your video on the install woman i've uploaded it and dm the link to you and brett on discord oh cool right on man thank you so uh what dave smith's not running is that confirmed yeah he's not right he formally on he formally anti-announced yeah we were all sitting here like dave announce already oh for real yeah it's his wife his wife was his he's got a new baby and his wife is like you know we can't again the baby has had heart problems oh There's been surgery. So it's not just. It's not the right time for his family.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah, it's not a small thing. He's got real serious. Well, then who's going to run? I don't know. What's the preliminary candidate? I don't know. I've heard rumors, but. Where's Luke at?
Starting point is 01:39:35 Luke, run for president. He can't. He's Polish. Yeah, he wasn't born here, right? No. No, so he can't. I think he said that when he was on the show. He was like, I can't.
Starting point is 01:39:42 He's like, I was born in Poland. I'm like, oh, okay. Austin Peterson's still out there. He could do it again. Austin Peterson? Yeah, he ran in 2016. No, so he can't. I think he said that when he was on the show. He's like, I can't. He's like, I was born in Poland. I'm like, oh, okay. Austin Peterson's still out there. He could do it again. Austin Peterson? Yeah, he ran in 2016. Oh, okay. He beat him and McAfee. He's not running either. He hasn't been sniffing around at all. Oh, come on. Phil, who's
Starting point is 01:39:56 running? Tell us. I can't tell you. Actually, I don't even know. I don't know that they're running. I've only heard rumors, so I can't say. Phil knows for sure. Everyone DM to Phil right now. are you are you seriously saying that are you serious don't dm me knock it off like i have stop i have stuff to do this weekend stop are you kidding me don't know he's just being coy he'll tell you i dm him on twitter i used to have this friend named hannah claire and now we're friends no i said used to used to now we're best moments it was moments it was like
Starting point is 01:40:31 today was the day i was like maybe she's got oh phil and i are friends don't dm him he likes to keep secrets it's fine all right nova says ian talks about forgiveness for democrats but can't do it for trump trump said 15 days to slow the spread but reversed quickly ian can't move on obama murdered children and ian calls for forgiveness his bias is disgusting i completely agree and i think that having him on the show to say that allows us to articulate exactly what you explained that otherwise people would not hear because we'd all sit here and be like we shouldn't forgive obama you're correct next subject ian then says no obama didn't we're like bro ian he bombed kids that it brings out it it's it's like a little salt on your steak you know it brings out the flavor maybe a little
Starting point is 01:41:16 lava salt you need you need different perspectives for sure and ian does that yeah and and ian is there's you know he's just a regular dude, right? Except for the hippies. No, but I mean like, he's not a hyper-partisan leftist or right-wing guy. He's not super online either. Like a lot of this,
Starting point is 01:41:33 like most of the stuff that he's familiar with when it comes to the culture war stuff, it's not because he's actively looking for that stuff in his spare time or whatever. He hears it here. True.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Yeah. Let's grab some more. Kick the Ball says, Trump trump is old if he dies for any reason while in custody will be viewed as the assassination of the gop's primary political candidate for president where do we go from there yeah i mean the fact that they've arrested him already dude four times crazy trump is old but he seems much healthier than uh oh yeah sweet sweet biden oh yeah yeah by the fireside says trump gets arrested and imprisoned the entire 2024 election wins in a landslide and is released
Starting point is 01:42:10 the morning of his inauguration emerges totally jacked covered in prison tats and ready to exact his vengeance on the deep state dude i'm imagining it like kind of like fast and furious he comes out with a jean vest arms all ripped and just ripped and he's like let's oh someone made the revenge poster yeah just made the revenge poster you want to tweet it or something or just post it we'll be like print it out use it revenge and the funny thing about that that mugshot is it's kind of menacing like he's looking down at you with the was it called the kubrick stare or whatever that's what looks like this how called, the Kubrick stare or whatever? That's what it looks like. The Kubrick stare? Like if they lose, that might give them nightmares.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Revenge! Revenge. I gotta tweet it out. I'm gonna pull it up. I'm gonna tweet that out for everybody. Sorry guys, this is more important. Where was it posted? She just sent it to me. I'll send it to you. Oh yeah, send it to me. Oh, there yeah oh there it is i got it oh wait is there a better one than that one
Starting point is 01:43:07 she's saying uh that there's competition from our company trump's on twitter is he what man he controls the media that guy what hold on he's like i got arrested so i've returned to x wow that would be amazing it would be hilarious oh donald trump just tweeted no donald trump tweeted we gotta get this ladies and gentlemen hold on breaking news and it's oh my god yo we got it read it donald trump mugshot august 24th 2023 election interference never surrendered donaldjtrump.com. Wow. I want to put that on a t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:43:47 It just went up a couple minutes ago. Heads are exploding. Let's go. That's sick. I'm going to like that right now. That's crazy. Okay. I got to quote tweet this with the picture that says revenge.
Starting point is 01:43:58 I just sent you. You sent it to me? Yeah. Because of the one you showed me looked really good. Yeah. There's like a bunch of different versions. I'm going to tell you guys right now. Tim doesn't like Chris Burtman's version of it.
Starting point is 01:44:06 He likes Jessica's version of it. I can't tell you. Did you message it to me? It's taking a little while to upload. Throw in shade. I know. You got to get. Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Yeah. Let's see. I can know how to use Twitter. Okay. This one's pretty good. Let me just download this image right here. Donald Trump has tweeted. That's a big image.
Starting point is 01:44:24 God, I hope he pins it. Elon Musk just finished. I really want to put this picture on a t-shirt. This is the funniest thing because it's also slightly boomer, you know? This on a t-shirt would be sick. This is the best thing. That would be so hard. Just that on like a white t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Dude. I would buy that. Trump is back. Wow. Also, he controls the media. Like he knew if he got arrested, we'd all be watching. And then he got back. Like, you know, this is all orchestrated.
Starting point is 01:44:54 He knew as soon as he got on the plane to go down there, he was like, and tonight I get on Twitter. Yeah. He definitely like rehearsed this look. That look is menacing. That's so funny. It's nice. I like this.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yo, holy crap crap i think this is going to be the most viewed tweet in history yeah x post sorry x post it's already got definitely it's been up for four minutes got 15 000 reposts 5 000 quotes 10 000 likes since the time we've been brian krasenstein within a minute or two says, welcome back. Signed your worst tweetmare. He's back! Oh, man. All right, well. You know, Elon's dancing in the streets. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. All right, we're gonna go
Starting point is 01:45:34 back to the old super chats. I wonder if Elon probably knows already. Someone's like, yo, Elon! What if Trump told him, he's like, okay, I go in tonight, my mugshot comes out, I come back on X and Elon is is like okay sounds great and tomorrow elon has bought truth oh my god we will grab some more smothers says stop pretending the supreme court will let trump be put in jail yo they could have just put him in
Starting point is 01:45:59 jail they arrested him the supreme court didn't do anything to stop it the question is if he's convicted do they sound from going to prison? Trump is facing felonies, which is prison, not jail. Difference. Jail is typically under a year. And prison is a year or more. Yep. Do you want the revenge picture to go on Teespring?
Starting point is 01:46:20 I mean, I don't, I guess we could sell a t-shirt. I just gotta, I can do it in five minutes, but you can talk about it later. I don't know. I i i guess we could sell a t-shirt i just gotta i can do it in five minutes but you could talk about it later i don't know i say yeah go for it i just kind of want people to take the image and use it and just do whatever they want with it like everyone can just make their own but i guess we might as well sell shirts yeah i gotta say his return to to twitter x with this particular picture with the with this whole thing the last time that he tweeted was three you know three years ago and it was i'm not going to the inauguration and then the very next tweet on his page is his effing mugshot there's nobody hard nobody better hard oh my god oh man yeah
Starting point is 01:47:00 plus with like the lawyers you just hired too dude that's hard amazing all right let's grab some more here it really was a historic night do you remember that time trump returned to twitter yeah we have we have the louis 13 we can crap up crack open oh my gosh steve mcgee says 6 3 215 pounds what an absolute unit ian wayan 145 is victim weight yeah there's there's no way he weighs that i mean they had to have weighed him i don't know they didn't weigh him they just took his word for it yeah probably that seems it's like all fake i i've seen i'm six two and believe me i'm well north of 215 pounds i know yeah yeah i mean trump's tall he's tall like i just 215 he's got to be 250 right they're lying it's just that his suits have a lot of volume and his hair has a lot of volume so you
Starting point is 01:47:51 guys think he's bigger than he is well there is uh we don't have the g prime 85 comic but that's the one where it's uh trump he's really really small and short and they're like sir are you ready for the debate and then he's like bigly and then they lift up this very tiny three foot tall trump and put him into a into a mech suit and steam comes out you know that that's possible here we go david walker says i'm a chilean that views u.s politics since it affects us eventually i watched the full trump interview i am not the only one yeah so what they're saying about the uh trump interview on x is that the total views are actually closer to like i think what they say 16 million actual views and uh the tweet views are different from the video views but this is the thing that i think you know impressions right well they're tweet views impression impressions are another way of saying it but
Starting point is 01:48:48 i think impressions implies someone didn't see it right if you are browsing a website and there's an ad on the left side that's an impression an ad impression that's technically the same thing as a tweet you're scrolling past but a speaker scrolling past is in your field of view that you're actively choosing to move past so slight difference i think tweet view is more appropriate what it means is the view count on the tweet shows you how many people saw that tweet not the video the video was uh 16 it was uh i was off a bit i said i thought it was going to be maybe like 10 or 20 percent and so i was like maybe 20 to 30 million in fact it was a little bit less than 20 million actual people who watched the full we could release that i mean elon low well i mean he could click they could track the click how many people actually clicked on
Starting point is 01:49:35 the video what's the ctr on that you know you can watch the interview without clicking on it oh okay that's that's the thing too so i just think the the left is trying to undermine it and the right is trying to tout its you know importance but the numbers are the numbers man we will grab some more super chats what we got sparky says bongino thinks trump shouldn't have posted bail but the ability to communicate from inside a jail is limited making working on a case difficult not if you turn the whole jail into your house yeah like you with the with you know security with the secret service yeah right that was the point that bongino made the the secret service could have just taken it over okay eric blackwood says when trump gets elected tim should be his press secretary. Never. That'll never happen.
Starting point is 01:50:27 I would never, never get involved in politics. Only on like the periphery, perhaps, like interviewing somebody or something like that, like we've already done. But I think anybody who wants to be involved in politics is unwell, unwell. All of them. And yes, that includes Trump. The man's got something going on up there.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Isn't it true that um if you're into personality tests the myers-briggs personality test says that the personality type that hillary clinton is is like specifically congregated in dc like there's a serpent certain type of personality that ends up wanting to be in politics demons i don't know if that's what's classified as i think think it was like INTJ or something, but you know. That's the demon one, right? Apparently Trump is speaking on Spaces or something on X. Oh, wait, what?
Starting point is 01:51:11 Yeah, that's what the chat's saying. I've seen it a couple times. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. How do I pull this up? I don't know. Chat, let us know. I will pull it up on my phone if I have to. You can't pull up Spaces on type of personnel. Hold on, type of personnel hold on hold on hold on i hear myself talk trump is speak wait what yeah that's what i see in the jazz i just
Starting point is 01:51:32 where where where where you to love me as you loved me before what is it oh this is no no this is not jerome powell so he's a parody this is fake are you watching this right now this is the actual space yeah okay so this is where the audio is coming from we just have to make sure that we stop sending that's not that's not him that's a comedian come on come on come on come on we gotta freak out um jessica says it looks like she can put up the pdf on teespring for free of her of the revenge image so like wait what do you mean like you can buy that buy the shirt or just download the image yeah she's working on right now we can talk about it in between the show but people should keep an eye on the teespring because we'll have some stuff
Starting point is 01:52:12 there i guess i say we sell the shirt but like open source the rights that anyone can put on any shirt they want i don't care we'll i think we put it up in our in our merch store so that you can easily get access to it and buy it if you want. But I would really love it if people just used it. It's not the most original idea. It was like we were all just joking about it. It exists. It's very low effort. I just find it really funny. Revenge.
Starting point is 01:52:36 It would just be so cool to be walking in a city and see four of them on the side of a light post, like the transformer box or something on the post no bills and then there's revenge. Like box or something like on the, you know, post no bills and then there's like revenge. Yeah. Like what they were doing with Obama,
Starting point is 01:52:48 you know what I mean? Sure. Revenge. That's going to freak them out. They're going to be like, ah, Trump's back. Make them into stickers and like post them on college campuses everywhere.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Oh God. Please. That'd be so funny. No, that would be a triggering event. They would go, ah, ah, witchy, I need a safe space. Could you imagine that in a college campus? That would draw more hate than it's okay to be white. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:53:14 On my college campus, someone in a street-level dorm room had a picture of Trump in their window and used to have to walk past it to get to one of the big parking garages. I always thought it was so funny. Noah Sanders says, just got my ticket for the Miami show. So excited for the event. Just wondering, are there any VIP tickets that might include a meet and greet? I only saw general admission tickets, but would gladly upgrade if it's available. I can't confirm anything just yet because I still have to talk to everyone about the plans, but I think elite members of timcast.com are going to have special access to something or other uh there's limitations to it obviously because we can't just be like
Starting point is 01:53:53 you know oh look if you're an elite member you can just come and do whatever you want come hang out but i think there is a plan i don't want to tell you to go become an elite member right next i don't know for sure but if anything does does happen, it'll be elite members. Elite membership is a hundred bucks a month or more. And you get access to the elite members discord where there's a lot of cultural stuff going on. And basically more plugged in with all the crew here and the projects we're working on and special access trials, demos, stuff like that. But what we want to do is we want to make sure i mean we're trying to get
Starting point is 01:54:25 this place open we're trying to do a club a skate shop a coffee shop all these things and uh elite membership is supposed to be like a core community thing where everyone gets to be a bit more involved in everything that's the purpose of the support level i'll just leave it at that give me uh some a couple days to confirm with what the plans are going to be when we're down in miami and there may be some limitations but i think there may be an elite member meetup let me just confirm and get back to you guys i don't want you to expend money yet until we know for sure but i think it's likely uh i'd have to confirm with the organizers our crew the people who are setting everything up to know how long do we have the venue for? What are our plans? So, yeah, we'll figure it out. Evelyn Grace Arlano says, my husband and I love all of Tim's impressions.
Starting point is 01:55:11 We are really missing Mrs. Pelosi's appearances. You should do one. She's just not here. She's not relevant anymore. Yeah. She's in Congress, but not the speaker. Right. You know, when she was speaker, she was in the news all the time.
Starting point is 01:55:21 She talks like this. Donald Trump is the worst president and he should be impeached that's my nancy pelosi it's intentionally bad and meant to insult her so you know there you go no all right sparky says the left are a bunch of karens that's mean to people named karen i've never liked that it's like i met a woman named karen and i was like i feel so bad she called karen no that's that's that's a mean mean word all right we'll grab some more raymond g stanley jr says i mean gary bucey still has the best mugshot that was a crazy mugshot yeah isa says tim make it say rage instead of revenge
Starting point is 01:56:02 that way it stays a four-letter word. Okay. Why don't we do both? Well, I don't know. It's got to be one. If we make two. People will grab it and they'll change it anyway, probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Rage is good, though. But I feel like revenge is better. Rage I get. In a lot of ways it makes sense because you had hope, now you have rage. But I want Trump to get revenge. And the menacing look he has is perfect. Yep, it's perfect. Revenge.
Starting point is 01:56:31 I seriously wonder if they were flying down, and he's like, do you think I should smile? Do you think I should do this face? I want to know if they were having a conversation about it, because you know this tweet they were prepared to have. Yep. It's the same thing like all the political consultants Tim was talking about earlier who were like, should I wear a blue tie
Starting point is 01:56:45 should I wear a red tie always go with the red except for depending on what event you're doing more some events they're like we'll wear blue so you look very calm and peaceful you don't want to seem aggressive you think Trump is gonna oh so
Starting point is 01:57:01 there's a message I'm gonna read the message for you guys because that was part of the tweet he says a personal note from president donald j trump today at the notoriously violent jail in fulton county georgia i was arrested despite having committed no crime the american people know what's going on what has taken place is a travesty of justice and election interference the left wants to intimidate you out of voting for a political outsider who puts the american people first but today i walked into the lion's den with one simple message on behalf of our entire movement.
Starting point is 01:57:27 I will never surrender our mission to save America. If you are doing poorly due to the sinister people in control of our country right now, don't even think about donating. But if you can, please make a contribution to evict Crooked Joe Biden from the White House and save America
Starting point is 01:57:39 during this dark chapter in American history. Thank you and God bless. And he's asking for money. Yep. That makes sense. sense that's about it there's a bunch of uh asking for money uh you know i've never given any any money to trump i'm considering it now though considering the charges i'll probably end up giving money to trump i've never donated to trump before just don't give it to the republican party no i can't that's why when i hear them say like yeah but if you donate to trump he's going to use it for his legal defense and i'm like bro i don't care what to the Republican Party. No, I can't. That's why when I hear them say like, yeah, but if you donate to Trump, he's going to use it for his legal defense. And I'm like, bro, I don't care what he does with the money. If I gave Trump 20 bucks, I thought he was doing a good job and he bought an ice cream sundae with it.
Starting point is 01:58:11 I bet that's cool. Fine. I ain't complaining about it. Let him do his thing. You know what I mean? Where are we at? KM says, finally, Eric Hunley, the goat ranchers version of Christopher Langan is on Timcast. Trump mugshot
Starting point is 01:58:25 versus shea guevara t-shirt or trump and breitbart war i i absolutely love the breitbart war clip yeah it's just so like his face war it's so good war oh man crazy where are we at jason hutchinson says i'm disappointed trump's mugshot could have been that cheesy grin with two thumbs up that would have been great too but i'm kind of glad we got the menacing look because we can you know make the revenge poster and i think it does add solemnity to what's going on you know it's important that we are always very solemn yeah he looks pissed that he got arrested in general. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Yo, he's going to make so much money off this. Yep. This is what he was waiting for with his tweet, I bet. Like, everyone's like, he's got to come back. He's got to come back. He's like, I'm going to come back, but I'm going to make money. Yeah. That one, that one ax, everyone saying he's back, he's back, he's back.
Starting point is 01:59:17 And it links to a, if you can give me money, give me money. I wonder where his ad cut's going to be from Elon. Does he get profit sharing? How many impressions do you think he's gonna have on that i mean serious yeah no i mean let's be real trump would probably make a million bucks a month and that's not good fund his campaign from x that would be great well to be fair he's gonna need a billion dollars for his campaign but a million bucks a month ain't nothing good start and all he has to do is shit post yes think about that i mean i got paid five uh four
Starting point is 01:59:47 thousand four hundred and that's basically all i do so it's like i don't know if you post nonsense and no it's not fair i gotta post some like legit things i get a lot of retweets well imagine if he posted his earnings too that would just make people bonkers hey man there's an opportunity i i like the idea that people were uh sharing clips from the show and then getting views on it because it's free marketing for us and i'm like i'm kind of torn because i don't i don't know if like what the ramifications would be if i was like yeah take clips in the show because then we don't know where they end up yeah but i'll say for the time being we reserve all rights that being said when people are like i've clipped the show and ended up making money because people are watching the video i'm like
Starting point is 02:00:29 that's good like free marketing for us we don't got to pay for it and you're advertising us okay congratulations keep the money otherwise what i got to pay you the hundred dollars to make you get the views for it you just get the views for you keep the money yeah works for me let's see what we got cap 303 says you think the trump team hasn't worked this out they probably told him to mean mug the camera to go with the slogan that they had ready already printing it mean mug the camera the the problem i have with that idea is like that implies that donald trump listens to people right no i think he was sitting there being like what you guys think i should do i think i'm gonna go with this one and they're like yeah he might ask people oh he's already made up his mind
Starting point is 02:01:08 yeah true like so many executives in the world i mean you know gitch says poor ben shapiro he's been chugging the copia light desperately saying all the republican candidates did really well except for the vague during the debates what i is that true has been really saying that because i gotta tell you like it's objective democrats republicans moderates independents everybody uh the data that the new york times put out showed vivek was polarizing in that he gained a lot of new supporters but also gained a lot of detractors he gained more support than he gained detractors but he polarized polarized. And I think DeSantis, according to the New York Times, gained a little bit and his unfavorability dropped a little bit. So I wonder if DeSantis' play was to kind of like let someone else blast off a little bit and then neutralize the view of you to a certain degree.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Either way, that's kind of what he did well jordan peterson had a criticism of a vivek and i think he's right that vivek could have gone a little easier like when he said all these people are paid off he could have specified people yeah which trump would do and he's right i mean eventually he's got to work with them at some point if he's trying to move forward. And that is a bit of a youthful, impetuous response. But overall, he got the attention and he did take the arrows and he fought his way back. Yeah. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com and buy your tickets to the miami
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Starting point is 02:04:53 that is gonna go so hard yeah i have mad about that i'm like i think i have the link right here yeah our revenge t-shirt i think it's coming up on our teespring any second as soon as updates yeah i'm gonna buy that as soon as i can i want this trump tweet on a white plain white t-shirt i think that's what it is at jessica i'll tweet this out in a second i'll tell you all to become members at timcast.com so we can see you in the members only show then i'll tweet it out thanks for hanging out cheers you

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