Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #848 Trump's Mug Shot SPARKS OUTRAGE, Democrats FURIOUS THEY ARE SMILING w/Fresh & Fit

Episode Date: August 26, 2023

Tim, Brett, & Kellen join Fresh & Fit to discuss the woke media freaking out over Trump associates smiling during their mugshot, Fresh & Fit explaining Trump's charges in depth, & the DOJ going after ...Elon Musk for hiring too many Americans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 history has been made donald trump's mugshot shattering the internet over 200 million views and the new york times oh they're they're mildly perturbed here because all of the trump allies are smiling in their mugshots but that can't be they quite literally were an article asking why people are smiling because they're losing their minds we'll talk about that stuff plus uh just just in general about trump one of the one of the articles other articles is popping up is they're all furious that trump listed his weight as 215 we'll definitely talk about that and then we got oliver anthony i absolutely love this oliver anthony roasting the gop for playing his song during the debate and he's like i wrote that
Starting point is 00:00:40 song about you and i just love it because i'm not going to pretend to speak for that guy he speaks for oliver anthony speaks for himself but i love the idea that they played that song about you. And I just love it. Because I'm not going to pretend to speak for that guy. He speaks for, Oliver Anthony speaks for himself. But I love the idea that they played that song for people up there demanding war. Oliver Anthony literally criticizes it. You got money for proxy wars, but not for the people here. And I'm like, yes. And that's just like general populism.
Starting point is 00:00:59 So we're going to talk about all that. But before we get started, my friends, check out kerryjans.substack.com. The Dirty Realist, link is in the description below. Kerry Jans, a member of TimCast, Friday is our member shout out, is a therapist who is, well, let me give you the full description. I have a better description. Dr. Kerry Jans is a therapist, writer, and author with a sub stack page, The Dirty Realist, where she writes about shifting culture, destroying mental health, and how to fight back. She's got a fiction novel coming out later this year based on her own struggles and path to identity.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 We do not have a members-only show just tonight, but Monday through Thursday you can hang out as a member, submit questions, and even call into the show to talk to us. Joining us tonight, after you smash that like button, we got Fresh and Fit. Hey, what's up, man? We're back. We're back. You're here this morning. You're here now. Who are you guys? What you do yeah go ahead fresh you got it first well you
Starting point is 00:03:08 know me being black i'll go first just kidding uh my name is fresh part of fresh fit podcast one half of the uh show and uh i'm a small kid from barbados came over here seven years ago started a podcast with myron gains and today we have the fresh and fit podcast as you know today myron gains one half of the Fresh Fit podcast, former special agent of Homeland Security Investigations. I did that for approximately 10 years. And yeah, we do a podcast called Fresh and Fit,
Starting point is 00:03:30 number one male self-approved podcast in the world. We talk about getting your money on point, being attractive, getting in shape, and not being a loser in a current marketplace that is not favorable to men. How often do you talk about
Starting point is 00:03:39 federal agency stuff on your show? I have another channel called Fed Reacts where I do true crime stuff and I cover that. Oh, right on. Yeah. Well, this is going to be interesting with your experience. You were already telling us a lot of stuff before your show i have another channel called fed reacts where i do uh true crime stuff and i cover that right on yeah well this is going to be interesting with your experience you were already telling us a lot of stuff before the show started i think it'll be pretending to trump and these charges yeah we'll get into that for sure we got brett yo what's going on guys this is brett dasvik i do pop culture crisis monday through friday 3 p.m eastern standard time right here on youtube i am filling in for ian tonight. And I am Kellen. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I got a frog in my throat. I do all the kind of behind the scenes stuff here. Do all the post-production, all the clips that you guys see. If you have someone that can't sit down and get through a two-hour podcast, tell them to go on the TimCast IRL YouTube and check out the clips. They're all the stories that we cover each and every episode. It's like 10, 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:04:21 A lot easier to consume that way. But yeah, thanks for hanging out with you guys. it'll be good let's let's jump into the first story oh man i love this why are trump's accused co-conspirators smiling in their mug mug shots a booking photo normally reflects gravity bewilderment and even surprise that's not the case with some of the former president's co-defendants look at jenna ellis and david schaefer in their mugshots in georgia i saw this and i started thinking about it all of the defendants they seem to be having a pretty good time you know i don't know about this these are other people you know but uh i think the answer is it also uh goes into why they all just surrendered without question.
Starting point is 00:05:08 There's a strategy that we don't know. They see something coming. They are extremely confident that this is not going to go the way the Democrats plan it to go. And that's why they're laughing about it. I don't know exactly what that is. I know that we have Trump's mugshot. Donald Trump posted his first tweet in two and a half years, or his first acts, formerly Twitter Twitter and it's his mugshot
Starting point is 00:05:27 and he's selling merch if you go to his website and scroll down I think they have it legendary dude yo absolutely
Starting point is 00:05:34 look at this yeah never surrender mug mug mug mugshot yo yo
Starting point is 00:05:43 man mugshot mug sorry it's kind of surreal because there's like one of the things that i love to watch they make these ai videos of trump in jail singing songs with joe biden and barack obama yeah and now i'm seeing the actual mugshot i think the mugshot's better than the ai pictures of him that's crazy though hey you're smart, though. Businessman to the heart. More merch. If I was these people, I would have smiled. The defiance for having a photo that bad taken of you with the really bad lighting inside. It's like a flash on the camera
Starting point is 00:06:15 while the room is already overly lit. Just laugh in their face, right? It's an act of defiance. I love how fast they got this up, too. He tweeted this very quickly after he left the georgia jail the image comes up and he's already got t-shirts for sale to be fair everybody did what we did over at timcast is we we made the revenge poster where it looks like the obama hope poster but it's trump's mugshot where he's like looking all vicious and it says revenge
Starting point is 00:06:40 yeah i just want to say to anybody who sees that graphic that the one that we made free to use and distribute we we it's free for public use we have asserted that i don't want to own that image i want everyone to use that image but we did put up a shirt for sale i just want to make sure everyone realizes you can take that and make your own shirt you don't gotta buy from us some people just don't feel like it they wanted to buy a shirt i'll take it but you can take that image do whatever you want with it wow nice man I want people to put it around. It'd be funny. It's funny because everyone on Instagram is now posting that as their profile picture
Starting point is 00:07:08 on Instagram. It's legendary. Honestly. And it's the first thing that Democrats and Republicans have agreed on in like years because everyone loves the photo. The Democrats love it
Starting point is 00:07:16 because they hate him. The Republicans and the populists love it because they love him. Yeah. And they understand that it's him in an act of defiance. Yeah. He's going to go up in the polls
Starting point is 00:07:24 after this. He's gone up in the polls every single time he got indicted so but i'm just confused so a former president could be accused of this and actually possibly go to jail that's crazy bro it is wild this is america right i mean it is wild i mean it's been it's been a witch hunt i mean from alvin bragg up in new york all the way to jack smith down and you know indicting him down in florida and then then in New York and then now here in Georgia with this ridiculous RICO case. And then the fact that they went ahead and indicted Rudy Giuliani as well,
Starting point is 00:07:51 who is what I would call the father of the RICO. It's crazy. Look at Trump's prediction. Trump's moving in the prediction market. His indictment made him go up three cents. So if you look at like the 30 day,
Starting point is 00:08:04 you can see that he like dips down a little bit and then he spikes back up 50 57 58 61 i don't know about polls whatever all i can tell you is that donald trump the prediction market believes he will be the republican presidential nominee yeah and they believe it more so that he's been indicted and a mug shot came out. This is what I'm curious about. What does it say about the state of this country that both Democrats and Republicans are celebrating this as a fundraising ticket, as a merchandising opportunity? There are people on the left making merch of his mugshot, criticizing him.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Then there's conservatives posting the same mugshot on mugs and shirts saying justice revenge etc everybody likes the photo for different reasons yeah my concern is what's the next step what's if if if we're all here at this level what's love what's the next level donald trump actually goes to jail and then you get the right fundraising off and being in jail and the left fundraising of him being in jail and then what comes after that what comes after that they're not stopping it just keeps getting crazier does secret service stay with him if he goes to jail yes they so they have to stay in jail with him yep wow so i've done i've done secret service details before um i protected a president of a foreign country out in africa one time and ours well i'm sorry one of our presidents no no foreign country because it was the un yeah foreign president because so so winds up happening
Starting point is 00:09:28 right so hsi is under dhs alongside secret service so whenever you have the un meetings it's typically in september um at least when i was on the job but they don't have the manpower to cover everybody so they you know they augment it with getting hsi agents in to help them out as well so you know they're pretty thorough with their you know with their details and stuff like that and as far as like the president goes i don't know how they would actually be able to incarcerate them like everyone that sees them you have to have a you know a site survey a week or two prior so i don't know how they would be able to actually jail them i mean the only way i could think of them actually putting him in some type of incarceration is he they would maybe have to build another facility for him.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Maybe they'd have to put him on house arrest. I was going to say house arrest. Yeah, it would have to be house arrest because it would be a nightmare, a logistical nightmare for the Secret Service to protect him while he's in jail. So, of course, he'd have to be isolated. But then all the prison guards that come in, the food that comes into him. They can't put him on house arrest in Georgia. He didn't live there. Maybe he could get a residence there.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I don't know but i mean what like if trump is convicted in georgia they have to put him in jail he went to the jail already he wrote about he complained about he said it was awful if they say okay fine we get it we'd have to shut down an entire wing of the prison just for trump secret service and all of that stuff so we're going to put him on house arrest what do they do make him buy a house offer him hey if you buy a house you get house arrest otherwise you're going to jail dan bongino said trump should just not pay not post bond and force them to figure out what the they're gonna do oh because he's a former secret service agent yeah yep yeah he said federal supremacy clause they could just shut down the whole prison what are they going to do about it
Starting point is 00:11:05 yeah because you know what? That would that you know what? If he didn't post a bond, that would cause a logistical nightmare for them. That would actually. Wow. It's pretty smart. I got I got it. But he knows that because he's former Secret Service.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So he knows the nightmare it is to protect the president United States. If it were me. Wow. I'm not Trump. And you can tell me that I'm wrong about this. And Trump's doing the right thing. I'm not saying that I'm right about it I'm just telling you how I feel how old is Trump 76?
Starting point is 00:11:29 77 I think 78 I think he's 77 nobody knows let me because when he went to court in DC I think they asked him for his age he said he would be the same age
Starting point is 00:11:43 Biden was if he wins for the second term. If I was 77 and I was in Trump's position, dude, it's balls to the wall. You guys ever watch Little Miss Sunshine, that movie? I think it's that movie. You've seen it, Kellen? Is that the one where the grandfather is doing heroin?
Starting point is 00:12:01 It's been a while. I could be wrong. It could be a different movie I'm thinking of. Basically, it's this really old guy and they find out that he could be a different movie I'm thinking of. But basically, it's like this really old guy, and they find out that he's doing heroin, and they're like, what is wrong with you? He's like, I'm 80 years old. I don't care. If I was 77, I'd be like, lock me up.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I don't care. I'm going to lay down, and then you get to deal with all of the world's problems. I get it. I'm not Trump. Trump's not me. But I'm 37. I'm at the point where I just be like let me
Starting point is 00:12:26 sleep like you if I don't post a bond you're telling me I get a few months off I'm just gonna lay down and go to bed whatever dude he's not wired that way and he's got a campaign but that would be a logistical nightmare for them in Atlanta yeah but I think it helps him in the long run
Starting point is 00:12:42 a lot of people say it's hard to campaign but think about the chaos the Democrats would cause if they actually remanded him yeah i'd let them i'd say this they come in phone say we're going to negotiate your terms of surrender and i'll be like i refuse to post any bond at all i would have the outright and they would have been like then we're gonna arrange it do it have fun and then what they'd say no bail and then i would come out afterwards and be like if they thought the charges were real why didn't they post why didn't they uh require bail you know what they would fold they'll just release him on his personal recognizance and that's what they would
Starting point is 00:13:12 do but that's what i'm saying fold if if in the negotiations trump said i will not post bond period if you impose it they would have said okay then recognizance like yeah no bail and then okay deal then i would have walked out of the prison out of the jail and just said if these charges were serious wouldn't they have tried to require bail or remand they didn't even do that they told me i'm free to go because they're unserious people yeah so either way you get the winning pr move out of it yeah that's like a circus man that's but but in this trump just said i'll pay whatever and so all that really happens now is they get their narrative of trump is a criminal out on bond yeah i think they for him he's like i got a campaign i got a campaign i got to get back out there and let the people know bro sometimes you've you've got to be
Starting point is 00:13:53 the one being you have to be more aggressive to put the pressure on the on on the other player right you know what i know people don't care for the poker analogies but we were just playing earlier yeah and we were given you know we're teaching you guys the basics of it but you can have the losing hand but if you're more aggressive your opponent folds so you might be thinking trump could be thinking if they arrest me i'm in trouble because i'm not gonna be able to campaign and i think i'll lose try a bluff bluff. Trump then says, arrest me, I dare you. How scared are you? And they're going to say, no, no, no, we won't do it.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Even though it may actually screw Trump over, they might be too scared. They might just say, okay, you're free to go. And then Trump gets the PR play out of it. So you're saying go full Breaking Bad, Walter White. Just go with it and run with it and head for the hills. I'm just saying if I was 77, if I was 77, I would just be like, there is nothing you can say or do. I am old. I'm going to die anyway. He's not wired that, there is nothing you can say or do. I am old. I'm going to die anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:47 He's not wired that way, though. He can't do that. He has to push back on the people. He's petty with the people who slight him. I do like the idea, however, of him trying to scrounge a phone in prison to send out tweets. Every update is from a black market phone
Starting point is 00:15:03 that he has to get from an inmate. That would have been hilarious. But no, I mean, these are absolutely, you know, no pun intended, trumped up charges on him, right? And I think this is a political play from Fannie Willis or Fannie Willis, whatever they want to call her. I mean, she did this with the YSL case. She wants to do a big press release. I mean, they indicted him at night. She's been trying to push for this thing for a while.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And, you know, are all the charges going to stick? Probably not. But it sounds sexy to say, oh, we got a RICO case. I mean, go ahead. Let me ask you about this. Please. You've actually, you mentioned before, you've charged people under espionage. You've got experience in law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yes. What do you think about, so there's a bunch of different charges and there's New York, there's Florida, federal jurisdiction. I could run through them real quick. Yeah, tell me what you think about, so there's a bunch of different charges and there's New York, there's Florida, federal jurisdiction. I could run through them real quick. Yeah, tell me what you think. So first, he got indicted out of New York for the falsifying business records stuff, right? Which that typically is a BS misdemeanor, but they're trying to get him on the felony version of it, which whatever. Alvin Bragg has a hard-on against Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I think he campaigned, if I'm not mistaken, as DA saying, I'm going to go after Trump, right? Then you got the classified documents case out of Mar-a-Lago, which, you know, the FBI, you guys know, they did the search warrant at the place, et cetera. He didn't return some records. They searched the place, found a bunch of documents, and they went ahead and charged him with that, right? And then now you got the D.C. stuff with the January 6th, which they're saying that he used his political power
Starting point is 00:16:17 to try to stop the election and, you know, et cetera. And then Georgia pretty much hit him with the same exact situation, but with Georgia statutes. And they did it under the Racketeering Act of Georgia, right? It's a state case. So he has two state cases, one in New York, one in Georgia, and then two federal ones,
Starting point is 00:16:32 one out of the Southern District of Florida, and then another one out of the District of Columbia out of D.C. So that's the overall cases. But sorry, you had something, Tim? No. But that's the general overall. The general question of what do you think about the charges in your experience? Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You said they were trumped up. Yeah. The Georgia ones, I think, are. What concerns me is the classified documents case. And the reason why, because I actually did a case on this. I think it's 18 U.S.C. 793E. Someone could check that if they want on the law if i'm right say it one more time 18 usc 793 e i believe is a statute um which is gathering transmitting or losing defense information bam there you go so that's what they're getting trump
Starting point is 00:17:17 that's what they're going after him for right and that's one of the statutes and uh that's if those are the same charges that robert hansen they famously went after him for the corrupt FBI agent that sold secrets to the Russians back, you know, about 20 years ago. Now, he actually just died in prison a couple of months ago. But my thing is with the Espionage Act, it's fairly clear cut. Hey, this is national defense information and or it's classified. You have it. You're not supposed to have it. And the thing that worries me is that the prosecution have him on recording saying well you know when he was i think it was he was doing an interview over a book or something like that but they have him on they have
Starting point is 00:17:49 it in the discovery hey you know i you know when i was president i could have declassified this this is you know secret stuff blah blah that doesn't prove the documents that doesn't that that doesn't that is not evidence he had classified documents well they have the witness saying that they saw the documents they know what the documents are. So the witness actually said that he, I didn't know that. I know that they claimed that they had the superseding indictment that got him on the Iran documents. And they said that he had classified documents. But I don't think the audio proves that. The audio, who knows what he was talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Well, what the audio proves is this. Because one of his biggest defenses was, and I just want to put this out there. I like Trump. I'm going to vote for Trump. I'm putting that out there. You can say that I'm biased towards Trump, but I have to acknowledge that with these statutes, et cetera, that this is not good. Because it's pretty clear cut. And the thing is that he said, oh, well, I could have declassified them.
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's my authority as the president. He's correct. But he's admitting on the record that he did not declassify them and he's acknowledging that their national defense and or classified information to a degree so and here's the other thing the two with national defense information ndi it doesn't necessarily have to be classified to be constituted as ndi it can be anything that's military and you're not supposed to have that right or certain people aren't supposed to have access to that so that that's what concerns me because they found it there at Mar-a-Lago. And here's the other thing, too.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They're going to argue, oh, well, we gave you the opportunity to give some of the documents back, which he actually did. He did give some of the documents back, and they didn't charge him for those documents. But the problem is that he lied to his lawyers, right? And he said, oh, yeah, no, we gave all the documents back, et cetera. And then his assistant, the guy that they indicted, Waltun noah is how it's pronounced if i'm not mistaken he him and uh another guy moved the boxes around right and then trump's lawyers certified that they gave everything over to the fbi then here's what really scares me i read through the indictment and in that in the indictment it says that they have lawyers notes well that's not good because we know that lawyers
Starting point is 00:19:43 right all the correspondence with their defendants is considered privilege law enforcement not supposed to have that right for example when i was doing interviews if a guy i was interviewing said i want a lawyer and the lawyer shows up and they talk i have to leave the room and anything i hear can't be used it's privileged 100 he could say i did it i can't use that right so the fact that the fbi put privileged information in the indictment tells me that those lawyers flipped so those lawyers are not cooperating with the bureau doesn't matter well it doesn't matter if they flip uh if no they're going to testify against trump is my point i don't think they'll
Starting point is 00:20:14 be allowed to no they absolutely will and i'll tell you why i'll tell you why the reason why is because the fbi probably told them oh you guys came here certified this document said you to give us all the boxes, right? And now it looks like they lied to them and they're complicit in the crime. Your lawyer cannot be compelled to testify against you. I'm pretty sure they cannot do that. I'm not saying they won't because a lot of things they can't do, they're doing anyway. They're currently charging lawyers.
Starting point is 00:20:38 But I'll make two counterpoints. Go ahead, please. The first is, I'm not a lawyer, man. I could be totally wrong. I just Google search. Can your lawyer testify against you? And the first thing that pops up is lawyer man i could be totally wrong i just google search can your lawyer testify against you and the first thing that pops up is your attorney cannot be compelled to testify against you or disclose what you said during your conversations so if they were to give privileged communications it doesn't matter they did it's in the indictment right and so that's
Starting point is 00:20:57 gonna that's gonna be a supreme court challenge that trump's gonna win on the other thing i'll add is the law you cited not saying that this in any way shuts down the case against Trump, because this is just something that you're familiar with. I don't know exactly what they're going to jump with. But this one says Trump had to believe it would advantage or a foreign nation or injure the United States. I don't think you can prove that with what Trump did. If Trump sold information or flew on a trip to Russia with the information, he's in deep. He's in deep trouble. He's got boxes in his house.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You're going to claim that Trump thought that would injure the United States? He's like, there's a news report about it in Politico. The documents he's talking about. And he wasn't providing any information or advantage to a foreign nation. But again, if they're getting Trump on a different charge, this one just specifically says believe the information.
Starting point is 00:21:42 There's different subsections of it. But they all say something to the effect of aforementioned right so i'm i'm there there are uh yeah you mentioned a million subsections in that law it's written very broadly for a reason so but what i'm saying is that that's the general statute that they hit them with right it's 18 usc 793 there's different sections subsection e that you mentioned says in which the information the professor has has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the united states or to the advantage of a foreign nation willfully communicates delivers transmits or causes to be communicated deliver transmit attempts to communicate deliver transit blah blah oh my jesus laws it's very
Starting point is 00:22:17 willfully retains the same and fails to deliver to the office employer of the united states entitled to receive it blah blah i i think a component of this, I could be wrong, is he had to have believed that having those documents would cause harm to the United States. Well, that's kind of implied by the level of classification of the documents. It's put in there. Everybody knows when you have a clearance, if certain documents were to get out, right, whether it's secret, top secret, confidential, whatever it is they say okay this document if got out it would be would great cause grave danger united states or would cause severe danger united states that you know this when you do when you get your clearance
Starting point is 00:22:53 when you have certain documents it's put all the documents are labeled so it's kind of implied when you have a clearance when you're dealing with that type of document that hey if this were to get out would be an issue so they know it and and again this is this is coming from a guy that likes trump but my concern is jack smith would not have indicted him on this if they were not 100 sure that they would be able to get him and the thing that kills it is that his lawyers certified to the fbi yo we gave everything back and then they went and did the search warrant and then they found the documents there so that puts the lawyers in a precarious situation where the FBI can now go to them and say,
Starting point is 00:23:26 we're going to indict you guys too because how do we know that you guys weren't complicit in it? Oh no, we're not complicit in it. We'll cooperate. And then they gave them memorialized notes and it's in the indictment. So my thing is this, whether they decide to testify or not is one thing,
Starting point is 00:23:37 but they're absolutely cooperating. I know that. They would not put privileged information like that in a federal indictment if they were not cooperating. They have a bunch of witnesses. And then got i'll just did he just change lawyers to like i thought i saw the other day they just changed lawyers anyways yeah yeah we had this conversation the other day with uh eric hunley and i said that i i think they're going to with uh chase burrow who's being criminally charged his trial is going to be october 23rd
Starting point is 00:24:03 i said what are the chances he takes a deal or gets convicted for, you know, Espionage Act, insurrection, RICO, blah, blah, blah, whatever they're charging him with. And in that trial, he makes statements of fact and provides some kind of testimony, court heard evidence that Trump instructed him to do it. The Democrats then file a civil charge under the 14th amendment to remove trump from the election because of the insert because he's an insurrectionist they say we got a guy who was convicted who told the courts under oath these things implicating donald trump in an act of insurrection now we we we use this evidence to have him removed
Starting point is 00:24:41 from the ballot he said well but they couldn't do that because Trump's not been convicted. And I'm like, I'm not talking about Trump being convicted of a crime. I'm saying a civil lawsuit under the 14th of his name taken off the ballot. His argument was they can't do that. And my response is just, bro, there's a lot of things they can't do. They can't arrest someone's legal counsel, and they did.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like, Jenna Ellis is the biggest red flag because she's just like, she was just Trump's lawyer she's not like she she's not going around knocking on doors demanding people change votes or anything like that she's just trump's lawyer and they criminally charge her under rico and that's why i'm saying the the georgia the georgia stuff i'm not too concerned with i think if anything it's gonna it's gonna get watered down fanny willis is a clout chaser trying to move up in the political world i get that but i'm saying they're all going to do whatever they can, legal or not.
Starting point is 00:25:26 So everything you're saying about his lawyers, I'm saying, well, maybe they can't do that. They're going to. And that's why politically the left does so much better, right? Because they just ignore the rules all the time. Anyways, the Republicans are for the most part, like we always say, just Democrats going the speed limit because the Democrats know that power is gained not by following the rules but by breaking them they don't have a problem with that because most of the people have been poisoned by the media anyways like i have friends on both sides as people on both sides posting the mugshot and the people who don't like him and are posting it they can't even
Starting point is 00:25:57 really articulate why yeah or or explain why these charges in particular are so egregious they just know they don't like them and so you take a general public that's been poisoned against someone by the media and you take politicians and activists da's who have no problem wielding political and legal power against someone even if it's against the law you know even if it doesn't follow the letter of the law and you get to a place like this and then somebody asks how did our our country get here? Well, that's how it got here. Yeah. And like I said, the Georgia stuff, I'm not too, too worried about.
Starting point is 00:26:29 The classified documents has me concerned, right, as a Trump supporter. So because I know how that statue, it's very, I mean, you read it. It's extremely broadly written. And it's designed to go after people for espionage. So they're going to do everything in their power to get you in every nook and cranny. And yeah, dude, it's and then the fact that the lawyers are probably going to cooperate we know that they're going to try to flip the guy that tried to destroy the surveillance footage they're going to try to flip his assistant that's what they're going to and it is what it is man i mean the only way i see him beating this is my my situation my what i think is he would have
Starting point is 00:27:03 to become president and pardon himself. But it's not explicitly written in the Constitution if a president can pardon himself. It just says he can pardon. So for the federal charges. Now for the state stuff, I know me and you had a discussion on it.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I didn't know this. Georgia's a little bit different. Can you tell us about that? I'm pretty sure. I mean, we have actions, but I think Georgia has a panel. The governor has to confer with a panel for pardons
Starting point is 00:27:26 okay yeah different states I think Florida the governor can just pardon you but Georgia yeah might be every state's different what if another
Starting point is 00:27:32 state board of pardons and paroles there you go what if like DeSantis won could he pardon him too yes DeSantis said he would pardon
Starting point is 00:27:40 Trump if he became president yeah or he would he would entertain it yeah he would entertain it i will say something just totally nonce like totally irrelevant it was funny that you said nook and cranny because i thought for a second i'm like what's a cranny no one ever says that word unless they say nook and cranny yeah and so i looked it up cranny is a very small narrow space oh it's kind of obvious so what the hell is a nook then also a small so it got it got me
Starting point is 00:28:06 thinking about waffles yeah but i think because you know the commercial is like they're pouring the maple syrup and they're like covering every nook and cranny yeah i mean so i think the the most the the the charges i'm most concerned uh concerned with are the document charges because they're pretty cut and dry he had them they're at the house they're classified or national defense information um they gave him a chance they're going to argue we gave him months we you know we had to open up a grand jury investigation to get these documents we did a search warrant we look at all of these ridiculous acts we have to take to get these documents back that's what they're going to say the um the january 6th stuff i mean
Starting point is 00:28:43 jack smith just has a hard-on for trump at this point to be honest with you but the thing that worries me as well is that i know how the feds operate right and just for the audience to understand the feds have the luxury of taking the cases they know that they can win and the cases that they want most u.s attorney's offices have a 90 plus success rate with their cases yeah like the southern district of New York, et cetera, these big districts, they don't lose because it's the DA's offices that typically lose because they take on disorderly conduct. They take all the dumb charges. But the feds take the big, sexy cases.
Starting point is 00:29:14 So typically, they don't indict until – I remember when I used to go and present for grand jury, et cetera, because I would go in there and present. You don't indict unless you know you're going to win the trial. You indict ready to go to trial at that point i remember going with it's a grand jury with all my stuff and then we would hand the discovery over to the defense council everything there and they were like oh man we're gonna need some time to review this and then sometimes the overwhelming amount of evidence makes them say we're just gonna plead yeah so then what happens if trump is convicted of of which one the anyone the document one yeah we'll start there because
Starting point is 00:29:45 that's like what's what's the what's the what's the penalty they're they're gonna label him a spy is what they're gonna even though that's ridiculous and ludicrous they're gonna say oh he was he was convicted under the same charges that we go after spies with robert hansen um operation um shadows which i know they caught those 10 Russians that were here spying for like a damn near decade and then we caught them what did we do we traded them for you know some other spies because that's what we do so they're going to go ahead and try to label him
Starting point is 00:30:14 as a spy unfortunately which is ridiculous and it's a lot of these charges if I'm not much mistaken like these are the type of things that they would always give the benefit of the doubt to a past president for, because in the political system, if you were in the inside,
Starting point is 00:30:29 you were given leeway and they weren't going to go after you. And that's the part that bums me out is because you see a lot of people who feel like they're getting this guy and that he's always been this evil figure, not realizing that this is the, he's doing the same stuff that Obama did, the same stuff that Bush did, the same stuff that Bush Sr. did, that Clinton did. All these things are not new to the system. It's just that this dude needs to be taken down because he pushed from outside the establishment.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I want to say this too as well. If you look, anyone that applies, anyone that's watching that has a clearance that worked for the government, you guys know, some of the questions they ask you, have you ever tried to overthrow the united states government um have you ever you know collected information for foreign government etc the two charges they're getting them for on the federal side or what one is an espionage side that they can label them a spy and the other one is overthrowing the u.s government what do both these charges have they disqualify you from the government service or they label you as unfit for government service and that's what they're trying to do but if donald trump in any way is removed from this election
Starting point is 00:31:30 bedlam yeah i just have absolute chaos it's going to be chaos yeah they better not remove i think for this they shouldn't remove them if trump gets removed from even a single state i think social order in this country ceases to exist. Yeah, it'll be a problem. But people need to understand this. I do mention this a lot, but in the context. I'm in Egypt during the revolution. You could still go to McDonald's and order a cheeseburger.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You could still go and buy goods at the mall. You can still buy a cell phone. Social order breaking down and the government collapsing doesn't change the fact that people are still living and trading and working and businesses are running. So by social order breakdown, I just mean, like I said, you're going to get the other day, you're going to get people in small towns who will just look at a guy with a federal badge like a guy in a clown costume. Like no different. A guy with a clown and a clown who walks up to you and says, hey, don't move and holds a rubber nose in front of you. Freeze. You're like, what is this? What does that rubber nose mean to me get out of here clown there's going to be people
Starting point is 00:32:30 in small towns who are going to see a fed hold a federal badge and be like what did you might as well hold up a clown nose that didn't mean anything to me yeah no i mean it sucks because you know you go from like let's let's look at the fbi you go from an agency that you know was responsible for putting away people like lucosa nostra invest investigating some of the most egregious crimes against the United States. And now their image is tarnished, right? All the good that they've done, right? They've done a lot of bad too. But they don't care because, yeah, they're being weaponized
Starting point is 00:32:54 to go after a U.S. president. They're in on it. Now, I'm not saying every single FBI agent because I've actually spoken. So this is the thing. A lot of people abolish the intel agencies. I don't completely disagree. Splintered the thing, like, a lot of people are like, abolish the intel agencies. I don't completely disagree. Splinter, the CIA, scatter into the wind, all that stuff. We all know those statements. Vivek wants to
Starting point is 00:33:11 abolish the FBI. What he really means is transfer them to various different agencies, decentralize. He'll never be able to do that, unfortunately. And I like Vivek, too. I've met guys who work in intel and I ask them, yo, what's going on? And they say, everything you see outside is exactly what's happening inside. You ever wonder why it is that like,
Starting point is 00:33:29 man, what example could I think off the top of my head? People won't speak up about some issue. They'll say, oh, like, leave me out of it, I'm scared. The average person, trans women in female sports, like obviously if you ask the average person, the polls show most people do not want this. Ask them publicly with a camera in front of their face and they shut their mouth and they say nothing yep so that's what that's what i'm told by some of these intel guys they're like a lot of people here voted for trump a lot of people don't like what's going
Starting point is 00:33:55 on but they're scared if they speak up they're going to get fired they're going to get shunned they're going to ostracize they're going to get targeted so they just keep their mouths shut right yeah i'll tell you from my experience um when i was on the job, a lot of us were supportive of Trump. Trump was pro-law enforcement. You know what I mean? When he was in. So the law enforcement community loved him. It's the guys at the higher up.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Because here's the thing, too, I want people to understand. You got a special agent, right? That guy is a GS-13, right? Whatever. He's doing his cases. He's doing what he's got to do. It's the management, the 14s, thes the sacks um you know the directors etc those are the guys that are making the political moves etc trying to move on up the guys on the
Starting point is 00:34:30 ground that are doing the cases a lot of the times man they just want to do their cases be done go after the bad guys you know it is what it is but it's the guy it's the brass that are doing this crap that where a lot of times is politically motivated but yeah a lot of a lot of guys a lot of um law enforcement guys especially at the lower levels right they're pro trump they're they're pro because those guys are pro law enforcement but here's what they do some higher up guy who's political finds people he can trust to agree with him and then says they're putting me in charge of insert bureau in office i want you to come work with me we're gonna do to do X, Y, and Z. So then you end up with a particular office where the guy running it is politically charged.
Starting point is 00:35:11 He brought a bunch of his buddies who are all super political. And now you have this one particular office where everybody is taking partisan action. So these agents that are investigating and going after Trump, they like that they're doing it. They're not upset that they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Well, it's DC agents. And I'll're doing it. Well, it's D.C. agents. And I'll clarify that too. So D.C. is super woke. We all know this, right? It was actually the D.C. office that ran that investigation. And when they came down, they did the search warrants. They did everything. And obviously the Miami field office is going to help and everything else like that.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But it's the D.C. office that's running it. So it is what it is, man. It's just a sad time in America. You made a very good point earlier about how other presidents in the past did the same thing that he basically did, but they got nothing for it. And it's scary because if you look at it from a holistic standpoint, Trump is basically an advocate for the opposite of what's currently in the political space. However, challenging anything that's currently set in stone here for the political landscape is demonized.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And it means that any other president that tries to do the opposite is going to be shunned too. So it's kind of scary, bro. There's lots of pictures of Bush with Obama. They're all friends, right? It's now about establishment versus populists and people who support populism.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Did you see his interview with Tucker? Yeah. He said in there that basically everything started to roll once he got rid of Comey. Oh, wow. Yeah, he said in the interview with Tucker, basically the pitchfork started to come out once he got rid of Comey.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And how you described what was going on, whether we're talking somebody high up in the government who then hires people that he knows are loyal to him. That's why I take a lot of issue with the idea of drain the swamp. They're like, get rid of the heads of this agency, get rid of the heads of this agency. I'm like, all of these people mentored people who, even if they're not necessarily 100% in line with them as far as their political views, they feel a sense of loyalty to that person, or at least the person who's in charge is politically savvy enough to hire people
Starting point is 00:37:11 that he knows think the same as him, right? Because he's training them to, if not succeed him, to work under him to help him achieve whatever he wants to accomplish, right? It's not easy. It's not so easy as to just fire a bunch of people because somebody else is going to take that job and you run the risk that that person is going to be every bit as bad as the guy you fired. Once you're at what we call the special agent in charge level, which some agencies call a SAC or SAIC or et cetera, it starts to get political. And that's the guy that's the head of the field office of a certain geographic area. And they're overseeing sometimes hundreds of agents. So yeah, at that point, it starts to become political. And they're really just kind of the puppets of the higher-ups over out of the Washington, D.C. office.
Starting point is 00:37:54 It says here on uscodehouse.gov, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years or both. Not more than 10 years. What are the chances he gets convicted? And they say all right you were found guilty time served time served i was in the of which charge specifically the espionage oh the espionage one the chance of they they just say no fine time served have a nice day disqualified yeah they don't need to put him in jail that's the thing like this the fear is that trump gets put in jail which causes bedlam everyone's like oh screaming but they could just be like don't worry
Starting point is 00:38:29 we're not going to lock you up we don't think you're a threat beyond this because you're not president and your penalty is that you can't run for office anymore i mean isn't that even worse though then it then it looks to the people that i know that just dislike him and don't understand how politically motivated this is that screams politically motivated to just say yeah no no they'll have to throw him in jail to make it seem like there was actually a crime for them to punish him for it they just let him go then it absolutely looks like a banana i think the strategy is this and i think is i'd said this on the on the onset when he first got indicted um and i think his legal team is trying to do this delay delay delay man he's got to make it to 2024 win the election pardon himself from the
Starting point is 00:39:06 chart the federal charges and um hopefully you know the state of georgia can we can figure something out with that but you know and then the new york stuff i'm not even worried about that's that's a bs the georgia the georgia stuff is where the chaos ensues because if they do convict him and he gets sentenced to jail and then he he wins the presidency, what happens when... They're not going to trial, though, on that for years, dude. The state of Georgia is so backed up. These state courts are so backlogged. Kenneth Chaseborough is going October 23rd.
Starting point is 00:39:33 For the retail charges? That's right. October 23rd. Of next year. No. October 23rd this year. Impossible. They wanted March of next year for Trump.
Starting point is 00:39:43 They're trying to get a conviction before the election wow they're just posturing there's absolutely no way let me double check yeah double check but there's absolutely no way that they can go ahead and um try to get a trial with him in october of uh they could push but their his his legal team is going to fight that i'd be like kenneth chaseborough called for a uh speedy, so they said October 23rd, and they agreed. A judge confirmed. They said they wanted Trump to go in March 4th. Willis proposed the trial should start for all 19 defendants on March 4th, 2024.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Wow. Yeah. Trump's team is going to fight that and be like, we need more time to prepare. Go over to Discovery. Right. They're going to file extensions. There's no way. I don't even know why Trump went to Georgia in the first place.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Forced Joe Biden to send federal marshals to extradite Trump from New Jersey or Florida. Florida is a better bet because New Jersey, they didn't extradite Trump in two seconds. But if Trump went to Florida and said, whatever charges may arise out of, if he went to florida and said any charges arising and right next to georgia by the way arising out of georgia they can send the legal paper paperwork to my house serve me proper legal service for which i will respond but the idea that you can go on the tv and claim i have to surrender is not legal service then what would happen is they'd have to contact what florida right georgia'd have to contact Florida, right? Georgia would have to ask law enforcement in Florida
Starting point is 00:41:08 to apprehend and extradite Donald Trump. So I'll tell you how it would go. Because I've done this, I've seen this happen before. So if you are a fugitive from justice and you're out of state and they know that you're out of state or they can no longer fulfill that warrant, what they're going to do is they're going to delegate that warrant to the United States Marshal Service.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Once the United States Marshal Service gets the warrant, now they're responsible for going to go get them. So they would probably coordinate with the Secret Service, hey, where's he at? We have to execute the arrest warrant that we have from the state of Georgia, and they would bring him in. Now, knowing Jack Smith and how he is, they would probably also get something out of Atlanta, out of the, I think it's the Northern District of Georgia or whatever, the federal prosecutor's office over there in Fulton County,
Starting point is 00:41:47 they would probably apply for something called the UFAP warrant, which is an unlawful flight to avoid prosecution warrant. And they would hit him with another federal charge because they know
Starting point is 00:41:55 that he's indicted and he's not showing up and then the marshal has to go get him. That's after legal service. I mean, he's been indicted by a grand jury, man.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Right, right, right. And so, the government can't just go on TV and say, you know those guys from Fresh and Fit, they got 10 days to go to jail because we said so. You'd be like, what? Send me the legal paperwork requesting my... They have a true bill. That's all they need.
Starting point is 00:42:19 So without legal notice, they can claim you're a fugitive without even telling you. They have a true bill of indictment, and they're telling him that he's wanted. No, no, no. I'm saying legal service requires they tell Trump that he's wanted. They said you need to surrender. Right, right. My point is going on TV is not proper legal service.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Like if I go on TV and announce I'm suing someone, they don't have to do anything. And then if I never give them the paperwork, they're going to be like, Your Honor, going on TV and claiming a legal thing does not make it legal service. I agree. Improper serve. But I mean, a criminal case, I mean, realistically speaking,
Starting point is 00:42:53 whenever they indict you, right, they do it surreptitiously. They get an arrest warrant from the clerk and then they go pick you up so that you don't know you're being picked up. So in this case, they would just say, Well, we indicted you.
Starting point is 00:43:03 We have a true bill. Here it is. They put it out there. So the marshals would have to come they would just say, well, we indicted you. We have a true bill. Here it is. They put it out there. So the marshals would have to come to Florida and say, Trump, you are hereby under arrest for a warrant in Georgia. And then. Assuming he doesn't surrender. Then they would have to delegate the warrant to the marshals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Donald Trump should have gone to Florida and said, deliver me proper service. I don't know, man think i think he did the good thing by surrendering because if he had done that right then georgia would be like okay cool we're not only we're going to file a ufap warrant against you so now you're going to get another federal charge yep uh now the marshals are going to go get you and it's going to be a problem so and then ronda santis would have to be like we're going to let him come in and just take Trump from his home. It's no big deal. And then there would be chaos in Bedlam. Make them follow up with their threats.
Starting point is 00:43:51 If there's like these charges against Trump out of Georgia are psychotic and insane. They're stupid. Yeah. You make an argument about and all I'm saying is that Trump should make them follow the law. Like the idea that Trump would take the extra effort to seek them out when they are accusing him doesn't make sense to me if if the police like no but they have an arrest warrant for him and so that i'm saying go deliver the warrant go to his house like a door here's your warrant okay take me we're going to georgia the idea that trump contacted them and was like
Starting point is 00:44:20 i heard on the tv that you have a warrant for me. Should I come in? Makes no sense to me. He should be like, come knock on my door. Tell me that you have a warrant or in some way initiate that through a legal process. I'm sure they probably faxed the warrant to his legal team. It was signed by a judge. I guarantee you they gave that to him. They faxed it to his team and let him know. And the other reason, too, why they announced it is that so he's put on notice. He can make it because you got to remember he's the president united state a foreign president united states they
Starting point is 00:44:46 got to coordinate with secret service you got 10 days to surrender etc so they have to do all this logistical stuff but typically you're never notified that you're being under arrest because they're going to come get you and then they're going to oh yeah we have warrant for your arrest i'm saying trump should have had that happen he should have had them just follow the proper legal protocol for coming and arresting him oh no but i mean they're going to give him the common courtesy and then he's with the secret service right i don't i don't think any of us are served properly by donald trump proactively seeking out his political persecution unless unless it's to just fundraise and he knows it's not going to matter and they wanted to make a media because meet a spectacle about it and it's like giving and so i i think
Starting point is 00:45:22 the the proper thing is let them serve their warrant. Like arrest him? Like go physically actually go try to go get him? It's not like he's fleeing. He's in his house. They knock on his door like what they do with Roger Stone. And they say, Donald Trump, you're under arrest. And he goes, OK.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And he gets in the car and they go to Georgia. That's what they do. Roger Stone wasn't contacted and told to go show up at their course. They went to his house. Trump should have said, I'm here. I'm waiting. Serve me serve me the warrant i got no issues we will absolutely abide by the terms it's it's i don't understand why it's incumbent upon him to proactively seek out his surrender in another state when they haven't served him they've done it they've done it in all the cases though every time they indicted and i'm saying trump is trump and all of his allies are surrendering and giving in and giving them everything they want. My point is, what position would this country be in if federal marshals were forced to go arrest the former president in his own home and Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, agreed to allow it to happen?
Starting point is 00:46:14 There's a certain point where if Trump, as the former president, says this stops, like not posting bond, call their bluff. Say, are you really intending a political persecution and prosecution of a former president then you will go by the league you'll go by the book you will take the warrant you will get it signed off and you will come and make the arrest trump giving them what they want and calling them up the phone like i'll come okay well here's the other reason too well here's the other reason too i see i see your perspective but the other reason as well is that they can go ahead and say okay okay, well, you don't want to show up. Well, we're going to remand you into custody.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yes, 100%. That's my point. Yeah, and you're saying that let them get remanded into custody and everything else like that. But he wants to run, bro. He wants to go around and campaign and everything else like that. So he's looking at it like, all right, I'm going to cooperate, right? Because they're already trying to paint him as, you started the January 6th riots even though he said you know you know protest peacefully but they everyone the left tends to forget that that he said protest peacefully but whatever so in his eyes he's like all right i'm
Starting point is 00:47:12 gonna go ahead go through the motion i'm gonna surrender i'm gonna abide by the law then i'm gonna get out and do what i got to do but i think for him he's looking at it like if i don't surrender they're gonna probably remand me into custody i won't be able to campaign which would be a nightmare for them to remand them into custody. I don't think they would. You could call the bluff. Yeah, that's,
Starting point is 00:47:29 that's, that's a possibility. So I want to argue with you on that. The big problem that I see, especially with the right in this country is capitulation. Every step of the way, the reasonableness, the desire to be reasonable and not engage.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You're playing a game of Monopoly. You're watching the dude you're playing against pull bills out of the bank. And you go, hey, man, you're cheating. And they go, no, I'm allowed to do it. And you go, okay. And then you lose. And you go, man, how did I lose? That's what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's also his lawyers, too, that are probably – because I guarantee you Trump is probably like, well, you know what? No, I don't want to show up. But his lawyers are telling him, hey, man, you got to show up. Like, let's just get this done. Let's do this peacefully, et cetera. so that you can keep campaigning. And so what happens is, every day, a grain of sand is added to the heap. And a better analogy is
Starting point is 00:48:11 frogs in a pot boiling. As the temperature increases by one degree every day, the frogs... This is actually not a true story. Frogs do notice, but the analogy as it goes. If you put frogs in a boiling pot, they jump out. If you put them in water and slowly turn the temperature up, they just boil to death.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Because they don't realize the temperature is changing. It's actually not true. If the temperature gets too hot, the frogs will just literally jump out. The stories are more fun. But that's what I'm saying. There's got to be some degree of Donald Trump, at the very least, providing the legal minimum of some kind of restraint or resistance in,
Starting point is 00:48:48 if you guys have a warrant for my arrest, you have my address, and I will gladly, without resistance or anything, just go with you when you come to pick me up. Trump paid, how much did it cost to fly that jet? 50 grand? Trump paid $50,000 to go to surrender for them. It's a path of least resistance the other thing too you got to remember is that when a warrants put out for someone and they're a uh there's a felony warrant out for them secret service is still law enforcement that's right and i'd like i'd like to see the secret service cuff donald trump and bring him to a van and that's something the american people should see that's
Starting point is 00:49:23 crazy they're like this is awkward. Yeah, yeah. Because technically, because if you look at any, whether it's a federal state warrant, it says to any peace officer and or officer of the United States, most warrants are written like that,
Starting point is 00:49:34 written in some kind of language like that. Secret service is technically sworn law enforcement. So it's like, it gets tricky, man. It gets very, very tricky. Leftists are willing to take to engage in a wide range of tactics from non-violent civil disobedience which i think is the i think is the most effective and reasonable tool for political change generating awareness being obstructive but not engaging in like overt acts of violence and like you know no danger i'm talking about they will
Starting point is 00:50:06 sit down on the street piss people off it's super annoying and then they'll get arrested for it i find it really annoying but i think that's the right way to go about things some stress on the system but nobody gets hurt however the left is also willing to firebomb buildings yep pull out guns shoot and kill people yep donald trump's even willing to say, please serve the warrant and I will gladly be arrested. He's saying, I will pay $50,000 to get on a plane and go fly to you so you can arrest me. And I'm just like, man. And put up a $200,000 bond.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah. 20 grand. Yeah, 20 grand, 10%. But I will say, to be fair, this is just more of a, what I'm really saying is, where's any degree of passive resistance? And I don't want to impose upon i don't want to imply i know their legal strategy better i think there's probably a reason
Starting point is 00:50:53 trump went about doing this yeah i think his legal team is telling him to do this but i think it's political team too yeah i think his political team is saying the amount of money you're going to make off of this will absolutely be worth the trip the amount of like the campaign will cover the cost of flying the plane for you to go you know probably can't do it that way legally but like the amount of money that you make in selling merch no i was just gonna say the merch drop he's like he doesn't get to plan the merch drop and here's the other thing too you gotta remember like it's very obvious that they're the media is willing to twist and contort trump's words to make him sound like an insurrectionist so it's like by him not surrendering and not complying they're gonna say look look we told
Starting point is 00:51:30 you he's an anarchist he doesn't care about the united states jeremy were six blah blah blah blah blah so it's like in his head he's like okay the legal i'm running for president i don't want to put off an idea that i'm an insurrectionist even though i'm not but the media the media is against him you look at msnbc c CNN all these guys they're all vilifying him and I'm like that's not true that's not what he said but they do that right
Starting point is 00:51:48 to make him look crazy so in his head he's like alright I need to surrender and even though he could you know say oh you guys come get me they could look at that
Starting point is 00:51:55 as like oh look we told you guys that he did this the law and order guys out here not obeying yeah exactly so from an optic situation
Starting point is 00:52:02 it could look bad too I agree with that but I'm not saying he should do anything illegal. I'm saying he should just say, you know, like, I am ready and willing to respond to any warrant. Come and get me. Do your jobs. But the media would twist it anyways. They would twist it.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And the average person who's only paying attention. And I'm saying this again. Trump refuses to surrender. I'm saying this that I think that the best route for him for him surrendering, because I'm looking at it from an optic standpoint, from a law enforcement standpoint i know how the judges are i know what they might how they might look at as as they might remand them to custody i want him to win i'm gonna vote for him i don't care i'm putting it out there but i want him to be able to run and be able to campaign and win and beat these assholes isn't it telling that his uh
Starting point is 00:52:39 well co-conspirators so to speak are smiling in their mugshots it's kind of like maybe they know something that we don't know but i don't know if it's that they know something that we don't know they know that it's bs charges yeah yeah they they know they know like you're really going ahead and indicting his lawyers and in this situation you guys are reaching yeah you guys are reaching you know and again the state so at the state level they're okay with putting ridiculous charges on people to get a media media spectacle because the state doesn't care if they lose cases the state loses cases all the time it's the u.s attorney's office that cares about winning cases which is why i'm more concerned with the federal charges
Starting point is 00:53:13 that jack smith is bringing against trump versus these state charges what does it mean for america if he's convicted you said uh anarchy anarchy a little bit? Not anarchy. Anarchy in the truest and purest sense is just no authority. It doesn't imply chaos or violence or anything like that. It could literally be a bunch of people sitting around sharing a peace pipe. You know what I mean? Conflict, active conflict between factions and uh social disorder social breakdown so i do think a component could be civil war we are likely in a period of civil strife right now uh i often quote stephen marsher wrote the book and studied this um this is a period where
Starting point is 00:54:00 typically occurs before civil wars where a certain number of people are killed every year for political reasons and the u.s qualifies there's a lot of people don't realize how many people are killed every year over some kind of political or ideological issue yeah if donald trump is convicted or if he's removed from one state look we also have it on january 6th they've got people locked up in dc who have not been charged with any crime do you guys know that yes oh yeah i mean i've talked about the january 6th stuff as well a lot of those people most of them were charged with a bs misdemeanor man and they're getting a year in jail because they walked around
Starting point is 00:54:32 confused the bureau went ahead and wasted a bunch of resources in time normally federal agencies are not supposed to investigate misdemeanors but they expended a ridiculous amount of resources to go after guys right for misdemeanors If you read those criminal complaints, a lot of them are misdemeanors. What do you think happens when you got the Capitol Police setting up Tampa office, they got an office out on the West Coast somewhere, and they're hunting down people
Starting point is 00:54:56 from January 6th? And I'm not talking about people who are violent and fighting with cops, because you riot, you go to jail. There's one guy who's been locked up two and a half years without any charges and he was told if you say trump made you do it we'll let you go right now and he said no really yep wow and it's not the only case like that there's a photo that just came out of a guy who is it is he is he or where's he at dc dc prison i don't know uh i can pull it up there
Starting point is 00:55:22 was one there was one guy let's pull it up let's see BOP inmate for that one I have to ask Matt Brainerd okay yeah all we need
Starting point is 00:55:31 is his name and his last name first name and then his approximate age and we can pull it up on BOP
Starting point is 00:55:35 inmate located we had a podcast with somebody that spoke about it I forgot who it was January 6 I forgot who it was spoke about people
Starting point is 00:55:44 being locked up oh look at this feds dispute story behind viral photos allegedly depending January 6th. I forgot who it was. It spoke about people being locked up. Oh, look at this. Fed's dispute story behind viral photos allegedly depicting January 6th prisoner abuse. So let's see. This was Tom Fitton. Disturbing photos leaked of January 6th prisoner abuse, tortured five months in isolation in a closet room with a light on and a bucket for a toilet.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So the Gateway Pundit adds on to it, claiming it, and they're saying that the uh the fed said that he had nine prior convictions terroristic threats he had an assault conviction prior that has nothing to do with january 6th okay so they're not disputing they're saying he's a criminal okay but they're saying there's a litany of oh okay all right it was a litany of charges related to january 6th but he was a bad guy, so the photos are real, I guess? As for the other guy who's locked up, you have to ask Matt Brainerd. To be fair, I defer to him.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I think it was Matt Brainerd who talked to us about that. We could look it up if we have his name. The guys who actually focus a lot more on the January 6th stuff than I do, to be completely honest. So then I'll walk it back and just say this. I met a woman recently. She said that she's getting probably 16 months because an hour later after people had already left,
Starting point is 00:56:51 she walked over and there's no barricades, there's no signs, there's nothing. And they walked up to the building where the doors are open. They don't see anybody.
Starting point is 00:56:59 They see people walk around. They walk in, look around. Six minutes in total. They walk out and they leave. Next thing they know, they walk out they leave next thing they know they're called insurrectionists they're gonna go to prison wow and they were like but we didn't we didn't like we're just walking around we're not even not even there for this and they're like don't matter so you've got that going on my point is this what happens when meanwhile we won't
Starting point is 00:57:17 prosecute antifa people oh for sure trump trump gets convicted nobody believes it trump gets removed from even a single state the entire election will be viewed as illegitimate and already 2016 was called illegitimate by democrats 2020 was illegitimate by republicans what do you think happens when they outright just say trump's off the ballot roseanne barr came on the show and said there won't be an election and michael malice said i'll bet you money that's not true i said let's clarify by election do you mean a typical election as we know it debate night then everyone goes and casts their votes on election day then they tell all the numbers and then we say who won is that an election do you mean they
Starting point is 00:57:56 joe biden will come out and say i hear by decree there is no election and bang a gavel or are you saying trump will be removed and no one will think that what is actually happening is an election like some facade of election occurs but it's not legitimate because trump has already been removed and so there's no way he can win and biden is a foregone conclusion in which case people say there was no election yeah and then you've got half the country or more slightly more actually because independents will probably agree not all of them that an election never occurred unless donald trump is allowed to run and unless he is on all of the states and we run it like normal to be fair even then people still won't believe it but unless that happens anything that puts a
Starting point is 00:58:37 wrench in the spokes michigan removes trump's name they say oh he's in georgia removes his name one state then you're going to have half the country say do the states have the authority to remove his name from the ballot it's under the argument that they're making for they did it they get it to a guy they did it to a guy named coy griffin in new mexico that he was at january 6 and they said as an insurrectionist under the 14th amendment he is disqualified from holding office and they removed him wow that that was their that their their trial balloon. Now with Donald Trump, they want to do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:59:07 But that was under state law? Federal. Okay, they used the 14th Amendment to justify... Okay. So because the 14th Amendment says anyone who's waged insurrection... The reason they keep saying insurrection is because of the 14th Amendment,
Starting point is 00:59:17 which specifically says anyone who wages insurrection against the U.S. is ineligible, blah, blah, blah. If Trump's name is taken off even one state, you have a law you'll have half this country saying we never had a 2024 election yeah yeah they better let him run man imagine it's like north korea at that point they just say it's north korea oh yeah the democratic people's republic of korea had an election and kim jong-un got 99.9 of the votes again and then the other guy who ran against him
Starting point is 00:59:44 just goes oh well you know everyone loves him yeah and then afterwards they walk back so here's your paycheck keep your mouth shut yeah and my problem with this too is like if you're going to go ahead and go after trump for these charges then you got to look at the bidens as well man i mean dude's receiving millions from china his son's involved in some nefarious activity um everyone has their dirt so it's like okay if you're going to go ahead and go after politicians, cool. Go after all of them. Yeah. And they never do. And they never do.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's the problem. That's the problem. And that's, I think a lot, I feel the same way about the media. Like as much as we hate the media and no matter how much you hate the media, you should probably hate them more in most cases. They would feel less bad
Starting point is 01:00:19 if they even made a half of an attempt to be as willing to go against people on their own side to feign some sense of legitimacy and honesty in their reporting. Right. If they were willing to report on Joe Biden's or even Hunter Biden's incidents half as much as they're willing to talk about Trump, you could at least feign some sense of objectivity from the media. The same with the government. If they were willing to go as much against Hunter and Joe, not offer sweetheart deals to Hunter and actually seem like you were trying to hold, what do they always say? Speak truth to power. If you were actually trying to hold power accountable, maybe people might buy it more, but they don't because they understand at least the ones who are politically aware and pay close attention, understand that they're not going to do that because they never do.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And this is why mainstream media is dying. This is why guys like you are so important, right? Alternative media, right? You guys, Joe Rogan, et cetera. This is why people are tuning in to other platforms to go ahead and get their news. I mean, CNN, MSNBC, these guys are dying. The last time they had as many views is what when Trump was on the CNN town hall like he brought them a bunch of views They're dying bro, because everyone knows those BS, but this brings up another issue though So imagine alternate media, right? We have a pretty much like free speech. So to sort of say however
Starting point is 01:01:40 They come after us was next because once again Yeah Trump is being you know Vinny sorry kind of like put on the state because he's not with the establishment. What about us? Media personalities are next. 100%. James O'Keefe is under investigation in New York. And what I was saying was, after they go for lawyers, the next people are going to be members of the media who are in communication with donald trump and then who publicly advocated for some kind of action on january 6th yeah now
Starting point is 01:02:10 james o'keefe's under investigation that's more of a general they're targeting their political opponents but uh i'll pull this story no chance of being fairly considered doj sues musk spacex for refugee discrimination. This is the Biden administration targeting their political opponents. Why? Because Elon Musk bought X. Elon Musk is allowing people to come back. He's allowing people to speak. They can't stop him. They'll try and destroy him.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I got this tweet from Elon. Somebody tweeted, Tom Mueller said, so if I let a non-US citizen see our rocket hardware, I go to ITAR jail. But if I don I let a non-U.S. citizen see our rocket hardware, I go to ITAR jail. But if I don't hire a non-U.S. citizen, I get sued by the DOJ. Got it. Elon Musk says SpaceX was told repeatedly that hiring anyone who is not a permanent
Starting point is 01:02:55 resident of the United States would violate international arms trafficking law, which would be a criminal offense. We couldn't even hire Canadian citizens despite Canada being a part of NORAD. This is yet another case of the weaponization of the DOJ for political purposes, and he is 100% correct. Elon Musk is stepping out in front of the machine, and they are pissed off about it.
Starting point is 01:03:16 And so now, he is being sued in the most psychotic way imaginable, that he hired too many American citizens. This is crazy, because look at NASA. They're not doing anything right now compared to SpaceX, right? So they're going to hamper SpaceX and take one of the most successful spacefaring companies in recent memory. They're going to hamper them. They're going to handicap them.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I'll tell you what the real issue is that the DOJ knows that if Elon Musk actually builds Starship, it's going to crash into the firmament, exploding, exposing the Earth as flat. Wait, wait, wait. Chaos ensues. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. I am kidding. You're trolling. It's going to get to the end of the planet.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Do you believe in flat Earth? Of course not. Oh, okay. Yeah, of course. That's the joke. Okay, okay. Fair enough. The DOJ course not. That's the joke. The DOJ is scared. There's no way. No, Tim, too.
Starting point is 01:04:09 No way, man. Now the ice wall is a different story. That's what you have to worry about. Global warming? We were arguing because I have these friends who are like, then why can't you go to Antarctica, Tim? And I'm like, you can. You can literally go to Antarctica.
Starting point is 01:04:26 There's this weird thing where they're like if the earth was round then why wouldn't why why don't they let us go to antarctica i'm like some dude filmed himself marching through antarctica bro it says you got to get a permit for it they think there's like like government agents guarding the end of the earth well they're right they literally they flat earthers thing not all of them that if you get too close to the edge of flat earth there's armed ships that will stop you they're gonna reassign trump's secret service after he goes to jail and send them to the end of the earth i'll be completely fair you need a permit to go to antarctica yes it's controlled by various military groups i think there's like 14 nations that have territory there okay and it's it's yeah because it's scientific research and
Starting point is 01:05:05 strategic location that's uninhabited if you can show up on a cargo ship doing supply delivery and then like go on the shore and like look at the penguins and stuff like that tons of people do these little tours you're there for a few hours and you leave if you want to do an extended thing you just have to let the other countries know because it would be like entering russia without a visa and so because of that they're like then why won't they let you go and i'm like bro you can't go to russia without a permit they're not the earth isn't flat because russia's requiring visas i just love the idea though that there's like a secret conspiratorial battalion guarding the edge of the of flat earth so that anyone who gets too close at any point of the flat earth they stop you
Starting point is 01:05:44 like dude there's no secret cabal dedicated to protecting the firmament it's where all that black budget money is going gotcha i've never heard the black the flat earth theory so this is all nude oh there's something i haven't i haven't we have friends that believe in it i don't know why but once again to be fair i've i like you know i've not gone to outer space and looked at the earth so you know but there's a whole bunch of other reason why the flat Earth stuff is just stupid. But it is what it is. Some people are going to believe it.
Starting point is 01:06:10 If you believe the Earth is real, your other conspiracies are also wacky as well, which is funny enough. Hilarious. The Earth is actually flat and hollow. I was going to say, what about hollow Earth? That's what we really should be talking about. No, this is the real conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Donut Earth. See, everybody keeps saying if the Earth is flat and there's the other one if the Earth is hollow, I think it's flat and hollow. It's a donut. Donut.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Okay. It's a donut. Donut Earth. Donut Earth theory. We just can't tell. Wait, so then the other planets are donut holes and the Earth is just
Starting point is 01:06:43 a regular donut? Wouldn't it be crazy though if the Earth was actually a donut? Like, you are hanging out in your city on the inner ring and you look up and you see Chicago? Yeah. That'd be so weird. What about aliens? You believe in aliens?
Starting point is 01:06:54 Tim? I mean, I believe alien life is possible, but whether or not there's intelligent alien life roaming around, I don't know. A lot of people did until the government said they were real. I love that. Yeah, the meme that's like conspiracy theorists in you know 1990 and it's like aliens are real yeah regular person
Starting point is 01:07:10 oh shut up no they're not conspiracy there's 2023 regular person aliens are real conspiracy there's no they're not yeah now they're the opposite yeah anyway back to what we're talking about though yeah they're going after elon they want to shut down anybody who, they want to cause financial harm to anybody who's helping them out. Here's a guy who put Trump back on Twitter. Trump's making a lot of money off that. They're pissed. How are you supposed to stop Trump
Starting point is 01:07:35 if Elon Musk is giving him this massive platform they try to take away from him? Before Elon had it, Trump was banned off everything. I thought he was allowed back on Facebook or something. Recently. Yeah, recently. His ban expired or something. It was like two years. They're like, okay, fine Facebook or something. Recently. Yeah, recently. His ban expired or something.
Starting point is 01:07:45 It was like two years. They're like, okay, fine. You can go back. But we can see a formula that happens with people that they want to be quiet. Basically, they cancel your accounts. For example, social media. They ban you. Bank accounts as well.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And they go after your family. And then put you in jail. The next, like death, pretty much. I like the idea that they go after Trump for listing his weight as incorrect. They're like, you lied on a government document. You not 215 pounds that's bs yeah and i could tell you from experience like when you book somebody in you don't put them on a scale you just ask them how much do you weigh and they'll tell you like okay trump's like seven feet tall and yeah like you got a boss yeah like you just like when you intake them you're like
Starting point is 01:08:23 whatever bro you just write it down it's like okay maybe eight right before you got booked yeah maybe eight like you typically always come in and they lie i'm 100 pounds you're like like lady 150 you got four chins i've seen like three separate hundred pounds they all look different yeah yeah like what the hell you're going to date how tall are you six feet come on man i mean yeah rounding up yeah but but now they have those high heels for guys you've seen those right oh yeah those uh You go on a date, how tall are you? Six feet. Come on, man. I mean. Rounding up. Rounding up. Yeah, but now they have those high heels for guys. You've seen those, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Those shoes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The contouring leather. I don't know what they're called. There's a knee surgery stuff, too. Knee surgery stuff. BBL knees. Dude, the leg surgery stuff is messed up.
Starting point is 01:09:00 They break your legs and then pull them apart. But they sell shoes that have inserts. So it makes you two and a half inches taller yeah like the surgery thing is depressing just to think about this is a tim pool exclusive just so you guys know they also ask a question what's fresh what's your height and with these shoes i'm six feet oh these are um uh alexander mcqueen's but those are just like normal shoes with a thick sole. But they have a huge platform, yeah. Bottom. I would say those are as close as you can get without being platforms.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's a thick sole. It probably gives you an inch or something. Yeah, pretty much. But they have those shoes with those things. Or you buy those plastic things. They better pay you for saying that. Shout out.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah, you're right. Dudes just need to learn to accept it. They say you can get like four inches of height out of that surgery or something like that like I'm 5'5 I'm super short I'm like imagine the embarrassment
Starting point is 01:09:52 of like paying all that money just to be no just to be the height of the average American male like just find something else that works for you and lean into it that's crazy though man
Starting point is 01:10:01 that people are doing this kind of stuff all this weird it's the male BBL but it's social though, man. That people are doing this kind of stuff. All this weird. It's the male BBL. But it's social media influence, man. Transhumanism. Absolutely. Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So this is, instead of going the route of dating, we'll go the route of transhumanism on the conversation. We can talk about guys wanting to hook up and they're doing anything to do it and women getting surgery,
Starting point is 01:10:17 but there's also people want to be things they're not. Guys want to be tall, but they're not tall. They want to be more desirable or some people want to be a carrot. Some people want to be a kangaroo. people they're they're like there was that tiger man i'm not sure identifies the lawnmower yeah that's right sometimes honestly bro like i like
Starting point is 01:10:32 it i love grass multiple people who get this that's allowed who get the super realistic dog costumes and then go walk around the park yeah like oh there's that one guy doing that in the in the car there's two of them there's a guy did it as a wolf and a guy who did it as a border collie. Clown world. Future's going to be weird, dude. No, it's clown world, bro. We got one of those VR things where it's a treadmill. We haven't set it up yet.
Starting point is 01:10:54 We just got it. You strap yourself in and there's this bowl you stand on. You put on your VR headset. And when you try to run, the harness holds you in place and your feet cause you in VR to move. So you can actually move around 360 degrees and run while in VR on this treadmill thing. People are going to strap themselves into this the moment it becomes cheap enough for the average household. And they're not going to go in the real world anymore. Actually, we had a guy on the show who spoke about VR OnlyFans.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Where basically, you go into this world and any girl you want to think of ai generated yes but the only thing is though you can create your avatar create the girl perfect girl for you and it's actually items you can use to have that same feeling in the real world so you can do your thing with the only fans girl in a room it's going to be so creepy metaverse basically you can pay for it crazy i'm saying only fans is going to go out of business because guys it's going to be a bunch of dudes AI generating porn for other dudes or for themselves and they're going to be able to get that
Starting point is 01:11:52 in everything that they want the future is going to be gross it's going to be strange if they let the Transformers into WNBA then we might actually watch the WNBA they'll be able to dunk and stuff name two WNBA, then we might actually watch the WNBA. They'll be able to dunk and stuff. Oh, okay, I'll watch the WNBA game now.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Name two WNBA women. Players. Brittany Griner. One more, one more. I don't even got that one. That's a freebie. That's a freebie. One more, one more.
Starting point is 01:12:15 The worst trade in the U.S. history. Does nobody know? The Casey Plummer. What's her name? Yes. Las Vegas. Hold on. And one more,
Starting point is 01:12:22 because Brittany Griner is the free space. It's like name two WNBA stars outside of Brittany Griner. Cool, yeah, yeah. One more, one more Because Brittany Griner Is the free space It's like name two WNBA stars Outside of Brittany Griner Cool yeah yeah One more Yeah because everyone
Starting point is 01:12:29 Knows her for the worst Trading of all time People know that one Is because she's the lady Who threw the shirts To like the top level Of the stadium So they made a big deal
Starting point is 01:12:37 About it Because she threw Like a Basically the equivalent Of like an average NFL players pass And we traded her For the merchant of death
Starting point is 01:12:44 Victor Bell Who we spent A ridiculous amount Of money to prosecute For selling weapons equivalent of like an average NFL players and we traded her for the merchant of death Victor who we spent a ridiculous amount of money to prosecute yeah I know one Sarah Harrison see there you go I got to I did not look that up I made the name up knowing you guys wouldn't know the guys go around
Starting point is 01:13:06 and he goes he goes I will give you one dollar or two tickets to a WNBA game and everybody takes the dollar
Starting point is 01:13:12 yo I mean bro I know I sound like a jerk but I mean female sports like who cares they say like bro
Starting point is 01:13:19 who watches female sports MMA is fun UFC MMA women's MMA I watch it's good it's good I mean I could give you that but it's like all other female sports? MMA is fun. UFC, MMA, women's MMA. I watch. It's good. It's good.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I mean, I could give you that, but it's like all other female sports is like, who's there? Like, you know, happy dads and parents. Yeah, go ahead. And here's the thing. I'm all for female sports because I think it's good
Starting point is 01:13:35 that it keeps women away from doing bad things in their adolescent years, right? And if I have a daughter, God forbid, I'm going to put her in sports, right? But like professional female sports, bro, nobody cares. Like this crazy purple haired chick. What's her name? That in sports. Right? But, like, professional female sports, bro, nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Like, this crazy purple-haired chick, what's her name, that wants equal pay? Whatever her name is. She doesn't want equal pay. She wants a renegotiated contract because they negotiated their contract in the first place. So, apparently, they're like two pay structures. More money up front, less bonus. Or less money up front, more bonus. And they negotiated a contract that chose one over the other which meant that they got paid less
Starting point is 01:14:06 in the short term than the men. And they were like, hey, look, they're getting paid more than us. Smart move. It's good business. More power to them. Here you go. Brittany Griner's a given.
Starting point is 01:14:16 She's six foot nine, dude. She's tall. Sue Bird. Oh, yeah. There you go. I feel like people know that name, right? Sue Bird is like the most famous one. I still couldn't remember it, but I know that that's a person.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I should have said Diana Taurasi because I'm from Connecticut and she played for UConn. Della Dawn's good. I've heard of her before. Elena Della Dawn? Not off the top of my head, though. That's the tricky part. You know what's crazy, though? A good high school men's basketball team can probably beat a WNBA team.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. They can probably beat them. Like what? 15-year-olds beat the women's basketball team can probably beat a WNBA team. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Like they can probably beat them. Like what? 15-year-olds beat the women's soccer team? Yeah. Like, yeah. The national team.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Like it's, dude. I just want to be honest, though. Like the thing about basketball I don't like. There are a lot of really, really good players. Like Steph Curry. Genuine, legitimate, top-tier talent. One of the best of the best. Legend.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Legendary. I watched a video and it said when you're so good, you can tell when the floor is broken and he's dribbling and then he stops and he looks and he points at the floor and he just knows because he understands so well it's amazing but there are players that video yeah right there are players who are just tall it's like you're on the team because you're seven three all that matters yeah that's it yaoming was i mean yaoming was good too but know, he's an example. But of course, Right. You're going to be good to a certain degree,
Starting point is 01:15:27 but like, if you weren't 7'6", would you be NBA level? No, probably not. Right. Muggsy Bowes was one of the best because he was what,
Starting point is 01:15:33 5'3"? Yeah. Yeah. He was somewhere between 5'5 to 5'8". Someone can fact check me on that, please. I thought he was shorter than that. I thought he was 5'3".
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah. Let's see. Because I remember it, like somebody said, like I figured he was-'s see because i remember it like somebody said like i figured he was five foot three dude yeah because i i was like they're saying he's short i was like yeah short for the nba would mean like five eight right but five three is insane and small as good as he was this man his story to me was like when i when i was younger was told about a guy who was five foot three but he could 360 dunk i'm like that shows you hard work pays off.
Starting point is 01:16:06 You can be the best. Cool dude, man. Absolutely. Shout out to him. Yeah, inspiration. I don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about Elon, but now we're talking about basketball.
Starting point is 01:16:14 The chat is going crazy because no one talks about women's volleyball. Well, no one talks about women's volleyball, so the chat is roasting the whole show right now because women's volleyball
Starting point is 01:16:22 is awesome, and no one brought it up. Name two players. For volleyball? Yeah, Chad, name two players. Name two players, Chad. Without looking it up, Chad. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:16:32 List this long. Yeah. They don't care about the female players. They want to look at some cheeks. That's why they go into the games. My fantasy volleyball league is elite. My fantasy volleyball league is elite. My fantasy volleyball team.
Starting point is 01:16:46 How much do you think they get paid to play on the women's volleyball team? Let me look it up. Less than OnlyFans girls? The Denver... Less than OnlyFans. Listen. It says the average salary
Starting point is 01:17:00 of a professional female volleyball player in the US is between $35,000 and $60,000 a year. Wow. That's low.60,000 a year. Wow. That's low. And they train a lot. You could be a manager at a Giordano's in Chicago and probably make more than that. Damn.
Starting point is 01:17:14 You could be a UPS driver and make more than that. $170,000. You could be a bottle girl in Miami walking around in your underwear and go, woo! And make more than that, dude. The mascots in the NBA make more than the WNBA players. Is that true? The Denver Nuggets mascot makes like $600,000 a year. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:29 The average salary among 151 WA athletes was $100,000 in 2022. Okay. And the minimum is $62,000. And the top played payers earn about $234,000. Well, here's the thing. Like, they should be – I mean, I don't want to sound like a jerk. Controversial take. Doesn't represent anyone here on the panel except for maybe myself, Myron Gaines.
Starting point is 01:17:49 But what I'm going to say is this. They can't get mad that they get paid – you know, they should be happy they're even getting six figures because the WNBA is negative every single year. It's subsidized by the NBA. Could you imagine if we had a men-only league that was negative and they were being paid by the opposite gender no it would never exist but you know there's no such thing as a men's only sports league yeah i know i think only in colleges yeah in uh nba women are allowed there's no there's no rule barring women from entering yes because there doesn't need to be yeah there have been women who've tried out to be punters or kickers in the nfl yeah and here's the thing women could compete
Starting point is 01:18:24 in male sports as well in in the at the professional level and at the collegiate level and the thing is is that and this is because i was division one athlete and i remember this like with female sports um with colleges right if you look at any big school that has like um a good a good football team good basketball team etc go on their website you're going to see only a few male sports then go look at the women's side they have a bunch of female sports why? because I think it's called it's title 9 or title 27 that basically
Starting point is 01:18:48 all the money that's allotted to male sports has to also be allotted to female sports at division 1 or division 2 level so they end up having random fencing
Starting point is 01:18:56 equestrian all this crazy stuff and you're like what the hell so yeah I mean female sports are absolutely funded at the same level
Starting point is 01:19:03 especially at the collegiate level but yeah dude no one cares about female sports because it sucks no offense well also I mean, female sports are absolutely funded at the same level, especially at the collegiate level. But, yeah, dude, like no one cares about female sports because it sucks. No offense. Well, I mean, the thing is, the women don't support it, right? Men come out to support men's sports. And so do women because everyone likes watching people who are at the top of their field do something amazing. We love to watch somebody succeed.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Female sports, it's like if the women came out and supported it it could do fine but they don't and it's amazing to me how we put ourselves in compromising situations in the name of equality i'll explain what i mean by this so like right we'll have the wmba right for equality but it's negative doesn't make any money no one really watches it no one really supports it like that but we have it because equality and feelings i mean my thing too i don't think women should be in combat positions in the military like why should we weaken our army by putting people or our military by putting women in that don't necessarily have the same physical capability as men because you're
Starting point is 01:19:54 only as strong as your weakest component so i'm not saying women can't join the military but i'm saying in combat positions etc this is why for the longest time women couldn't join infantry because it compromises the integrity of the entire unit because women just aren't don't have the same physical capability i'd be pissed if i went ahead and i signed up and i got a female in my unit and i get hurt and she can't drag me to safety well somebody also explained to me they said that like a lot of it is like because of the way men are wired like if a woman gets hurt in combat it affects their ability to be uh let's just stay focused yes that and then also what if they're taken as a prisoner of war yeah well that's going to now be a political um thing done where they're going to you know do certain things to try to show look at us doing this to america so it's just the l all
Starting point is 01:20:33 around but you have women but i'll tell you when i'm in a call of duty room and i'm with the boys and a girl joins bro i'm like why are you here we're about to lose right now i'll tell you hostile environment awareness training they call it heat heat training which is redundant because it's training training if it's heat but uh we did a scenario where what what they do is they bring you in and they say we're going to give you a series of scenarios you are journalists in a foreign country in active conflict and we're gonna do normal jobs and present you with security risks and uh so they're really it was really fun uh one of them the first one was like you're going to a local market to have coffee and then while you're there one of the guys one of
Starting point is 01:21:18 the people that's with you because we don't know anybody so they say hey here are the people that are on your team which is typical in like a newsroom. Here are the guys that are going with you. While you're sitting there, they will take one of the people in your crew, and they're gone. And then they'll wait five minutes and come to you and say, all right, let's go. Wait, where's John? And then, I don't know. And they'll be like, John's gone. John, where are you? And they'll be like, how did you guys lose him?
Starting point is 01:21:38 Where'd he go? To simulate someone getting kidnapped from Ark or something like that. That's the kind of thing they do. We did a scenario where they said, we're going to go meet with a journalist. We got two cars. We're bringing the full crew. They were driving down the road
Starting point is 01:21:51 when a bunch of guys with guns come out of the bushes, stop the vehicles. It's all training. It's all simulation. Yeah, of course. And then they say, screaming, they fire blanks, like everyone out of the cars, make us lay down. This is part of hostile environment training.
Starting point is 01:22:06 If you're, if you want to get this done. And then they brought all the women into a barn and then the women started screaming. And then the guys doing the training started laughing saying they were raping the women in the barn. And then like you, you lay on the ground with guns pointed at you while you hear the women
Starting point is 01:22:20 screaming. Yeah. What's really happening is they brought the wind said, okay, everyone starts screaming. Yeah. And so the women are just laughing and, and then outside the men are told to listen to the women screaming yeah what's really happening is they brought the wind said okay everyone starts screaming yeah and so the women are just laughing and and then outside the men are told to listen to the women being raped oh man and they were and then when
Starting point is 01:22:30 we go back they're like this is the kind of thing that will happen when you are working with female colleagues and then the funny thing is because of like labor laws in the united states somebody somebody said yeah but like what about men you know it? It's like there was some weird question of sexism. And he goes, they could rape the men too. Maybe they'll take it. And I'm like, oh, come on. Here's the thing that feminists don't want to understand. And here's the uncomfortable truth.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Sexism inherently benefits women. Sexism literally creates two different standards because women can't compete in most of them. And people get mad at me for saying this. They're a misogynist. You're a jerk. No, I'm just a guy that understands biological differences. And I think we need to keep women protected and away from danger. I don't think women should be in combat positions in the military.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I don't think they should be in law enforcement on the field. I can't tell you how many situations I've seen where women are in combat situations on the street with a male perpetrator. And they get overpowered. Hold on. And the guy just beats the crap out of them. And they can't even get to their weapon on time or they can't even fight them off but the real issue is capability yeah i don't think the issue is women shouldn't be allowed it's people who can't draw their weapon fast enough people who can't lift people who are who are not strong
Starting point is 01:23:35 enough because if you got a woman who's six foot nine yeah pure muscle and brutish i'd rather have her over a five foot three you know frail little i little effeminate. I'm glad you mentioned that. So this is what I think. And it just so happens that women can't do this. But I'm going to say, you know what? I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:23:50 It should be one standard. One standard. Male or female, if you can accomplish the standard, fantastic. You deserve to be in. But I know,
Starting point is 01:23:57 right, the male standards, right, for the military, for law enforcement, et cetera, most women can't do it at all.
Starting point is 01:24:02 50 pushups, 30 pushups, 40 pushups, whatever it may be. Women can't do that. So my thing is, by you watering down the standards, you effectively weaken the force
Starting point is 01:24:10 in the name of equality. It's feels before reels. Unfortunately, most women are not capable of doing these manual labor jobs that involve combat and or violence, and they shouldn't either. We talked about it earlier on the culture war. You're in a burning building on the third floor
Starting point is 01:24:24 struggling to breathe. All of a sudden you hear a door bang open and you look up and there's a five foot tall, 100 pound woman carrying beer. I mean, you'd be like, help me. But if it was... Brittany Griner comes in at six foot nine. Absolutely. And picks you up with one hand.
Starting point is 01:24:39 You're like, what did you say? Cradle me. So it's like, that's the point. It's not about male or female. Like, the joke I make is like, dude, if I'm in a burning building and then the door bursts open and it's a six foot five chiseled manly man glistening with sweat and he smiles as I'm here to save you, babe. Cradle me.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Save me, dude. I don't care. There's no pretense. I'm going to burn to death. Yeah. And if it's Brittany Griner, I'd say the same thing. Like, if you can save me, save me. It's just that the idea that
Starting point is 01:25:07 they've lowered the standards for fire departments and for police and for things like this. We shouldn't lower the standards at all. Just keep them the same. Anybody can come. One standard.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Like, feminists like to cry like sexism and all this other stuff. Sexism benefits women because it creates a second standard for them to be able to compete. If we weren't being sexist, we would have one standard and we would be like, okay, ladies, go ahead and compete with the men. But they'd never be able to get in. weren't being sexist we would have one standard and we would be like okay ladies go ahead and compete with the men but they'd never be able
Starting point is 01:25:27 to get in they'd be like if you want to play basketball join the nba and it's like there's no woman tall enough fast enough i mean i i do think it's curious i wonder how britney griner would do she's six foot nine how would how would she do on average in the nba well she wouldn't even make it like there's high school boys that would absolutely smoke her. There you go. Yeah, it's incredible. People don't realize how good you have to be in the NBA. A guy at the end of the bench that barely made the team
Starting point is 01:25:56 is smoking 99% of people in the world. You are literally the best of the best. A Division I basketball player can go ahead and show up and smoke anybody. Like, especially with basketball at an international level, like, these guys are really good. So, Brittany Griner needs to go
Starting point is 01:26:13 join the fire department then is what you're saying. I'm not saying that. She probably can't even pass the physical test and drag a 200-pound person. I think it's a 150-pound bag. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 01:26:22 I could be wrong, but my understanding is they have you carry, you go up to a second floor, then you throw a 150 pound bag over your shoulder and have to run down.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Oh yeah, most women can't do that. But that's gone. I mean, that's heavier than the average woman. I think the average woman is like 120 or something.
Starting point is 01:26:38 170. Yeah, 170. They went up, bro. The average female is 170 pounds. Check it right now.
Starting point is 01:26:44 The average black woman is 187 pounds bro like these women are huge and there are more fat women than fat dudes by the way so it's all my black queens 170.8 pounds dude ridiculous
Starting point is 01:26:53 5 foot 4 yeah these chicks are whales man it's getting crazy out here man the harpoons man the harpoons the average man is 197 dude like it's crazy
Starting point is 01:27:03 cause it's like as a female like dude you have one job just like be attractive dude dude don't be annoying America The average man is 197? Dude, it's crazy because as a female, dude, you have one job. Just be attractive. Dude, dude, dude. Don't be annoying. Get a guy. America, please.
Starting point is 01:27:10 The average American man, 20 years old, weighs 197.9 pounds with a 40-inch waist circumference. Fat. At 5'9". Yeah. Wow. Yo. So today-
Starting point is 01:27:22 Hold on. I just want to imagine. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I want to imagine this dude is jacked. He's got so much muscle that he's got 40 inches of pure muscle at five foot. No, that is just fat. Yeah, we're just fat as hell in America.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Yeah. And I will say this. I realize how fat we are when I leave Miami because Miami is pretty fit city. Once I leave, I'm like, wow, we really are fat. And there's even more fat women. So today I went for a walk to the Weiss uh supermarket whatever i think that's like a supermarket weiss weiss and um i was alarmed to see how many people were fat literally just that dude it's probably for fruits and veggies because i'm because miami is kind of like pseudo our food
Starting point is 01:27:58 south america and stuff but like you leave like south florida you leave like somewhere else like oh wow there's a lot of i think our food's poison. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. Because what I hear from everybody is, oh, when I was in, insert country, I was eating the same amount of food and I lost weight. When I came to America, I just gained weight. Bro, I came here seven years ago. I was skinny as a stick. Dude, I started eating American food.
Starting point is 01:28:18 I got fat. I'm like, what's going on with me? I go back to Barbados, skinny. It's like when you eat food here, it's like, I don't know if it's like when you exactly here it's like i don't know it's hormones or what but it's really bad yeah everyone did tell me that that comes here foreign or used to live here and then they leave and then they lose weight yeah i agree with you because when i go to other places i lose weight and i'm here we were in columbia we ate hella food i was i felt good i didn't feel bloated at all but were you eating like rice and chicken or were you
Starting point is 01:28:40 eating cheeseburgers burgers rice he ate rice and. He ate rice and chicken. Yeah, I eat healthy all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if you were to go down to Central America and have burgers and fries and lose weight because it's the oil we use too. Yeah. So right now, a big thing everyone's freaking out about is seed oils. I don't know about all that. I do know that someone posted this article where canola oil, which we use for cooking, used to be used for engine lubricant. What? Yeah. There's a bunch of food that we have here in the United States that's banned in Europe and other places. canola oil which we use for cooking used to be used for like engine lubricant what yeah there's a bunch of food that we have here in the united states that's like banned in europe and other
Starting point is 01:29:09 places and another thing too is like our portion sizing is ridiculous and to be a thousand we uh absolutely encourage people to be fat united states we don't but we need to go back to body fat body fat shaming i think we need to make fun of fat people we need to bring it back we need to make fun of fat people well to be fair if lizzo can do it why can't we do it yeah dude if i was prime minister well if i was president united states i'd have fat people in shape in 30 days the the the 99 taxation gag is to tell people to compliment women that they look like lizzo we did that on the show actually yeah and they get offended they get angry we asked them would you prefer to be lizzo or uh no be complimented that you're beautiful like lizzo yeah uh no be complimented that you're beautiful
Starting point is 01:29:45 like lizzo yeah yeah pretty much yeah and they all kind of squirmed about it i don't know angry they'll be like hey even though they sit there and say fat is beautiful i think genuinely so here's the thing that i've noticed about females when they compliment each other they don't really mean anything they say to each other it's all the sabotage oh no it's okay you you be a whore oh no it's okay be fat no exercise your sexual liberation they do that right because yo i don't have to compete with this chick no more yeah be a loser be a loser women give each other self-destructive advice all the time every single time girl's in a happy relation with a guy oh you should leave him what are you doing why are you
Starting point is 01:30:18 cooking yeah why are you cleaning for him are you a slave come on girl what's wrong with you and it literally perpetuates why so many women stay single. There's nothing worse than having a girlfriend and she hangs out with her single friends. They're going to poison her. There's this trope that I've heard from people in the military. There's a story where when women start basic training, they're all friends and they all get along. And then by the end of it, they all hate each other. When men start basic training, they're all arguing and fighting. And by the end, they're all get along. And then by the end of it, they all hate each other. Yeah. When men start basic training,
Starting point is 01:30:45 they're all arguing and fighting. And by the end, they're all working together. Yeah. That like the social dynamics are inverted. Yeah. Men bond over like a shared goal.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Well, so... Versus women aren't like that. So my understanding was what men are actually doing is figuring out who's the most capable to lead. And so the head-butting and chest bumping
Starting point is 01:31:05 is like roosters being like i'm in charge no i'm in charge and then after the trials and tribulations the men figure out who actually is the best and then align themselves based on that perceived hierarchy right whereas women are in constant competition with each other for the best men yeah so by the end of it they're all like i gotta say i'm in touch i gotta say well this is why this is why people get mad at me for saying this, but this is why you need male leadership. Women aren't capable of leading anything in a relationship except the end of it. So it's like you need that male leadership and that male instruction. A woman without instruction is headed for destruction.
Starting point is 01:31:38 But if you look at it, you look at the things that women are attracted to and men, they're all inherently um centered around leadership dominance strength perseverance capability competence etc it's all survival traits that women look for in men men don't look for any of these things in women we don't care about how much money woman makes her success or her um income or any of that stuff because women look for that men look for replication value women look for survival value want young and hot they want capable strong etc makes look at the bad boy he's he kind of like shows leadership he shows strong he shows a guy that can actually fight and even though he's not the best option pretty much the bad boy shows those traits so you're right and here's the other thing too with men like men naturally fall in a hierarchy of
Starting point is 01:32:19 dominance and success and competence because there's always that threat of violence right because men are willing to fight, right? To express themselves to a degree, right? And they just kind of fall in line. With women, it doesn't really operate that way. They did a,
Starting point is 01:32:32 I'll never forget this, Survivor, right? They put the men and the women and pitted them against each other. Two different islands. Right, two different islands. Dude, the women were like arguing about if they were
Starting point is 01:32:39 going to hunt and kill the animal, they couldn't make fire, they couldn't make shelter, et cetera. It ended up happening. So check this out. Very interesting. I forget what season it was but someone in the chat's probably gonna put it so the guys they end up building fire they end up building a home and everything like that right they build everything up and they're good right they're hunting and they got
Starting point is 01:32:54 they got their stuff going right so the women figure out okay we don't know what we're doing we're living like we're we're terrible right so the chicks go over to the lower status males in that group and tell them, hey, listen, can we get some of your resources, blah, blah, blah, and they finesse them. And the guys, right, the simps that they are, go ahead and give some of the resources, right, and that causes turmoil with the other guys.
Starting point is 01:33:15 So the women knew, if we go to the weaker guys, right, the beta males, I hate to use those terms, but we go to those guys, we can manipulate them and get some of their resources. That caused a bunch of infighting with the guys this is what happens when female influence comes in there's a better men aren't strong there was another show where they put men and women on two different islands and the women were crying lost super upset they uh and and the feminists argue that the show is staged to insult women because it's hilarious and it goes viral.
Starting point is 01:33:48 But there was like one where the women are like, we need to find water. So we're going to go search for water. We'll be back. And they started walking in circles. And then once they walked past the same icon, this woman broke down, started crying, being like, how does this happen? How are we lost? It's like someone who's never walked in the forest doesn't realize how easy it is to get lost because you don't realize when you turn. If like you're walking through trees, the trees aren't a straight path.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Yeah. So like I recently walked around an island and the path you're walking on feels straight yeah and then you you walk like two miles and you're like we just walked in a big circle it's crazy yeah you it's it's slightly curved but it's so big you don't know you're going in a big circle and and men have far more they know that like this is scientifically proven men have more spatial awareness than women men this way men are better with directions and being able to manipulate the world you know and why that's why we're better at building things and it's not to say that men are better than women but we're just better at certain things that tend to deal with infrastructure so it's like it's very interesting how and i've said this before guys get so mad not
Starting point is 01:34:38 guys but like people get mad at me for saying this but men need to understand that women are hardwired to extract resources for men like that's what they're hardwired to do when it comes to true you know raw survival etc that's what women do they use their beauty to extract resources for men and it's on you to make sure you don't get finessed we're gonna go to super chat so smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends become a member at timcast.com to support our work directly and pick up your tickets to the miami event on sale now patrick bett david donald trump jr and uh mad gates luker kowski me we're going to be doing the show on stage live and we're also going to have
Starting point is 01:35:16 like audience q a and stuff's gonna be a lot of fun all right rain gutter cory says trump pulled off blue steel better than zoolander himself that was blue steel wasn't it they spelled it s-t-e-a-l like steal the election nope nope just regular steel but it would have been funny no people posted that at the bottom oh really blue steel amazing lamech says tim our band lamech has just released our latest track higher ground are you still offering grants for those contributing to culture creation if so we would greatly appreciate you giving us a listen. We'll definitely check you out. Let me write it down.
Starting point is 01:35:52 That's nice. I like that bullet pen. It's cool. It looks like a 50 BMG. Yeah. So take a look at this pen. It looks like a bullet, but it's a pen! Wow. We got a couple of them actually they're really cool i'm stealing one anthony sanford says in solemnity of trump's mugshot we should all
Starting point is 01:36:13 change our profile pictures to that beautiful orange scowl it's happening right now it is happening a lot of people are doing it yep yeah shoe on head has uh trump's mugshot shot the trump man i like it shoe on head posts these people always accusing her of being a guy. She's done it more than once. Shoe on head's great. Yeah, funny. What do we got? Verkalos Al Corlin says, you know, I have to wonder how much of the money the government
Starting point is 01:36:39 sending to Ukraine is getting funneled back into the pockets of certain politicians. Oh, large portions of it, dude. Yeah, facts. Yeah. Zelensky's a criminal. Big facts. Everybody knows that. He took a bunch of money to build roads aka never built the roads yeah that's one of the few things he's done or not done in this case brian in inf edge says look at all the hate watchers in chat y'all just clowns that can't stack paper to the ceiling and ride on 20 inch chrome wfnf shout out to you man thank you for the support to you man we got a lot of haters but it's okay kb says trump was right he never came
Starting point is 01:37:10 back to twitter lol that's right he's on x now it's a different thing amos moses says when are you having congressional candidate brandon herrera aka aka jesus on uh in like a week or something i don't know i don't know i don't know when he's coming. It's coming up. I don't remember if it's next week, but it'll be soon. Yeah, he's coming. Coming, coming. Jason Dixon says, one of our Discord members owns a business
Starting point is 01:37:36 called GCWindsor.com. His product is excellent for the fresh and fit audience. His product is designed to bring men to the next level in their fashion game. Love your work. Very cool. Thank you for the support, bro. That's important, man. MB says, make the poker show legal by winners
Starting point is 01:37:52 playing for charities that change the culture. Finally got our 501c3 approved to support homeschoolers. Massachusetts would love you to play for us. That was one of the considerations, but no consistent weekly player wants to play for charity. So we want to do a poker show.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Okay. And it's mostly table talk. Like, you know, when we were all hanging out, talking smack and joking and laughing, that's more what the show is. And poker is just what we're doing at the table.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Gotcha. So you probably, you just dudes being crude. Yeah. But it's you for teaching me how to play poker. Yeah. Well, mostly a lot.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah. He was super excited. He loves poker. But just, just don loves poker but just just don't fold bro don't fold don't fold sometimes you gotta fold you gotta you gotta know how to hold them don't want to fold them i'm just kidding but we want to do this show and the challenge is we need a consistent lineup of players guests the players the core like six maybe like five of the players are going to be locals who want to play a cash game if we were like it's all for charity then the players are going to be like count me out like i'm not playing to just make some donation because these are not celebrities and we can't get eight celebrities every week the idea is just to have a handful of locals and like
Starting point is 01:39:03 one or two guests and then we're sitting on table and we're all just smack talking and making jokes and it's just open this is for kids for homeschool no this is to raise money for kids for no no no but like what the the charity is for okay but the charity is to fund so kids can have homeschool no no she's saying we should do various charities okay also she has a charity that we could use okay but nobody wants to play for charity gotcha like it's a it's a thing they do with celebrities where they'll play poker for charities and then the winning players money goes to the charity but no small like no local cash player wants to do that do you play online or not really nah it's not the same uh it's i i yeah okay
Starting point is 01:39:41 gotcha i like there are people who are super hardcore poker culture into poker and they love online and they love live and I'm just like, the only game I care about is playing with real people. Gotcha. Because I don't care about looking at a digital screen and seeing
Starting point is 01:39:55 buttons click and graphics slide around. That's just boring to me. Okay. But in real life, you're watching people sweat. One guy's talking smack about the other guy. People are shaking. It's a lot more fun.
Starting point is 01:40:07 But mostly, when you're hanging out at the table, people are just talking about everything. It's like you go to these tables, and it's really funny. My friend Robbie was out here. We're in West Virginia. We're playing at Charlestown. And this guy, Robbie, you got a mouth on him. And so he just looks at one guy and goes,
Starting point is 01:40:23 are you a libtard? And then he goes, excuse me? too and he's like bro are you a libtard and he's like i'm a liberal and he goes oh he's like i didn't mean anything by it and then everyone busts out laughing like bro what are you doing like this but they the guy like i guess they got they got along i don't know because he's just goofing off but like that's funny at the table when people are acting silly maybe a man yeah yeah yep and it's like and and it is 90 men sometimes there's women there it's almost always men yeah isn't that kind of crazy like what do women do you know what i mean i mean i don't mean that literally serve drinks what i mean is like
Starting point is 01:41:02 guys it from our perspective is we're always engaged in kind of activity serve drinks what i mean is like guys from our perspective is we're always engaged in kind of activity you know what i mean like the majority of the people who watch this show 80 guys yeah skateboard let's go to a skate park almost all guys yeah go to a poker room almost all guys go to a baseball game you know like excuse me i mean we're gonna be honest dude like i mean men absolutely dominate all human men are the best at most human endeavors and women are mediocre at most human endeavors and the reality is is that most of them don't have hobbies being honest there's some exceptional women that like are great at certain things but most girls would rather just hang out and go to the mall and watch drama tv i mean we asked them on the show what are
Starting point is 01:41:38 your hobbies and they don't have beach well hanging out with sephora that like what does that yeah what does that even like yeah dude like like most girls like honestly like if you actually like this is what we've done this before yeah blindfold and like listen to the and like you go on like a blind date literally you're blind and she's talking to you and you're just like what the hell what are are you stupid like what's going on here like once you take off like their looks like they really a lot of girls are just boring and don't do anything but those are those are hobbies i mean we as guys around the table we don't want to go to the mall we don't want to just sit and talk all day women enjoy those things though it's it's a hobby we're not
Starting point is 01:42:15 going to find it fulfilling we're not going to find it cool wait hold on hold on if you if you met a chick and said what do you want your hobbies and she goes i like to go out into wild lands and like uh forage for fruits and learn about the plants and look for seeds and plant things would you call that a hobby yeah that'd be interesting that is and i'm not a scientist i'm saying my understanding is that's the root of shopping so like human tribal behavior was men would go hunt so men are going out and seeking these this kind of conflict and women would forage so the women would go together and walk around looking at trees and being like oh you know they grab the berries and they'd grab fruits and vegetables
Starting point is 01:42:53 and they would gather while the men yeah but they're actually working when they're shopping they're spending your money what i'm saying is shopping is a facsimile of foraging but you go there and you look around at all the things you want. But Tim, let's be real here. The last time that happened, Adam and Eve, we saw what happened to the world, you know? What, eating foraging? Yeah, she took the fruit.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Well, she got tricked, though. She fell for it. And she tricked Adam. So no one's screwed. Man, that don't work, man. Welcome to the Nisagony Podcast. I'm just kidding. Nisagony!
Starting point is 01:43:21 All right, all right. Marion Holtzman says, crooked lawyers, judges judges and prosecutors will absolutely do or say anything to get president trump if nothing comes of it at least they can say we tried this is all a big fat diversion trying to get eyes off the biden crime family yeah it's gonna hurt his reputation regardless i agree and they don't they don't look at biden yep these uh gc windsor guys are really really excited and want want us to let you guys know they exist jeffrey newman shout out to them. Yeah, he said, I'm
Starting point is 01:43:45 GC Windsor Jeff, the Discord member with the extremely unique product that everyone has been noticing. I believe I have a story that you would love to hear through an interview if you would consider it. Send us a DM. Send freshman CEO a DM. No, I'm looking for it. Okay. What's it? GC Windsor?
Starting point is 01:44:02 GC Windsor, yeah. Okay. No idea. I don't know what it is just put tim cass in all caps and i'll find it what do we got better be good brother but be good oh and for all the people that are wondering guys i did a hair transplant this is my real hair it's not a toupee yeah last time he was here yeah i was bald as hell but i did i did a hair transplant and i didn't even notice yeah i cut like yeah i was bald as hell last time i was here uh i basically cut like a strip of my head and then they like take out the hair follicles from that strip of your skin, and then they pluck it in the parts where you have thin hair, and now I've got hair.
Starting point is 01:44:32 It's like they take a little piece, but now you have a full head of hair. Yeah, so they cut in the back of your head. I've got a scar back here, right? Oh, wow. And then they take that piece of skin, and there's a whole bunch of hair follicles. They take each follicle of hair and pluck it into the parts that were thin. So it's basically like a hair BBL kind of. So yeah, but it's my real hair, guys.
Starting point is 01:44:50 It's not a toupee. You have hair under there? I do not have hair under the beanie. Can I see it? Completely. Yeah, after the show. No, no. Right now?
Starting point is 01:44:56 Come on, fresh. Come on, bro. Hair battle. Of course not. You know what's funny? So right now we're battling between waves right in our hair you know i've only been brushing for two weeks but right now i'm winning the battle because i'm black bro i'm darker okay so winning yeah so why do it why get the hair plugs no no no it's not
Starting point is 01:45:16 wearing a beanie no it's no hair plugs oh sorry yeah the transplant sorry why the transplant yeah uh i was just like dude like i'm on camera i'm getting bald because i like dealing with girls every night and debating them got annoying like dude it's more stressful dealing with these chicks than chasing after terrorists like you can't name three countries and i'm debating with you that like men and women are biologically different like what the hell is going on here so like yeah like, yeah, I lost hair from, like, debating these ridiculous girls. You know what got me, bro? When they said they could fight men.
Starting point is 01:45:48 I'm like, why do they want to fight a man? That makes no sense to me. I can't tell you how many girls that come on the show. I could fight a man. I'm like, why? It's all the movies and the television. But it sounds like the women you're surrounding yourself with. No, dude.
Starting point is 01:45:58 These chicks are PhDs, man. Educated. PhD. Regular college degree. Listen, they're from Europe. I get it. From Canada. They're from europe i get it i get canada they're from america there's no saving i'll say this this is what i've realized about women that are educated they tend to be even more grounded in their delusion let me explain
Starting point is 01:46:13 they'll make a hundred thousand dollars per year well i make a hundred thousand dollars per year i deserve a man that makes a hundred thousand dollars per year no you look like a garden gnome you don't deserve a guy that makes that kind of money but they think because they make that kind of money and they have a certain status or whatever that they deserve that guy but they don't realize that men don't care about they don't realize they don't have it's not about desire men don't care about that's it right there there was an article from new york post that i read a few years ago that triggered a bunch of feminists they all started screaming at me and it's it was uh career women struggle to find men who make as much money as they do yes
Starting point is 01:46:40 yes and it was like this woman she's 32 and she50,000 a year and she can't find a man who makes that much money. And I was like, I'll break it down for you. And I don't mean to be rude, but if there's a 32-year-old guy making $50,000 a year, he's going to be dating a 23-year-old. Yeah. Because $50,000 to a 23-year-old is a lot of money. Yeah. And it's not a lot of money to you.
Starting point is 01:47:01 So if a guy is in his 30s and has money and has access to younger dating pools to track's attracted to why would he go for him in his own age i'm not saying it's right you speak it too much logic tim i'm not saying it's right i'm just saying your misogyny shows it your massage and i was like you know you know my advice these women is they got to date a guy who's 45 yeah and then they're gonna find a guy who's but but i guess their argument was they they want a guy who makes as much as they do yeah but i don't think guys want that no they don't it's been yeah and women are now like a lot of metrics are saying like because women are graduating college at higher levels right now anymore and they're out and they're out earning them which is just actually making them more miserable just shrinking their own dating pool while trying to tell them that they're happy yeah feminism it's facts is the greatest gift
Starting point is 01:47:42 to ultra high tier men yeah it is men yeah they they yeah that women are told to be promiscuous to abort their babies yep so the men can do whatever they want they have to do very little work now the women are getting the jobs they're getting the phds and they're working they're working these office jobs and the ultra high value man can sit back play video games all day and then tell them when we have 12 12 wives or whatever it's it's ridiculous yeah dude what feminism has done is it's inadvertently given all the leverage to the top one percent of men in the sexual marketplace who are never going to commit to them anyway yeah yeah all right we'll grab
Starting point is 01:48:14 some more we'll grab some more yeah let's do it what do we got i love listening to gso59 says they never forgot that he said to peacefully to protest peacefully they just got done peacefully protesting for over a year and know and know what it means that's right yep so when they said um mostly peaceful protest and then they heard donald trump say protest peacefully they were like we know what he means wow all right marion holtzman says geez none of you are legal experts this conversation of what ifs is totally fruitless. Thank you for the $100 super chat to let us know, but I'll
Starting point is 01:48:49 read your criticism. I mean, I think there was a very valid discussion. We talked about the statutes. We talked about what potentially could happen. People are going to hate, bro. Thank you for the roses. Shanzi says, wrong, Tim. They can notify by TV and newspaper if you don't have a mailing address or residence.
Starting point is 01:49:06 I had to sue my wife with no contact info. Yes, but that's a special circumstance. If they know where he lives and everyone does, legal service needs to be delivered. But to your point, yes, that would be serving a warrant and saying. Yeah, for a criminal investigation is a bit different, but yeah. And I think Trump should have been like, yeah, absolutely. That's what you should do. Something something says Hillary was not allowed to be served because the Secret Service didn't allow it.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Her lawyers said that they couldn't take it. It had to be served to her directly until C. Gabbard was unable to sue Hillary for defamation. Wow. Oh, really? I didn't know that. That's crazy. Damn. He went from crooked Hillary to crooked Biden. He talked about that in the Tucker interview, too. That's crazy. Damn. He went from crooked Hillary to crooked Biden.
Starting point is 01:49:46 He talked about that in the Tucker interview too. That was funny. Keen Speaks says, what if it was safer to respond in the manner he did, where Trump is able to fly in his own accord to the station, which allows him to make a media spectacle of the legal spectacle. Just my thoughts. I think Trump's team planned it.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I don't think it was just legal. I think it was, I think it a PR guy. It was fundraising. Right. He doesn't get the merch drop if he doesn't get to do it that way i bet he's gonna make 50 million bucks or some ridiculously obscene number yeah he he spent the spun in his favor man they keep losing these guys the more they indict him the more they talk about him in the media negatively
Starting point is 01:50:17 the more people support him yeah ginger mc isaac says now that trump now has a mugshot he would be more relatable to someone disadvantaged yep don't those people tend to vote blue sounds like a possible dilemma to me you know it's funny by them taking that mugshot which is you know atlanta's you know mostly african-american they've basically like they've galvanized african community because they're like yeah oh yo especially the hip-hop community like i saw a couple people on instagram right now we saw one of the most legendary rappers i know today chief keith posted trump his mugshot i can relate homie
Starting point is 01:50:51 that's crazy bro like this is gonna backfire they were like we're gonna arrest trump and then trump's got uh trump's uh political advisor is like you are going to skyrocket with black males yeah in the voting like if you do this and And he was like, let's go. Yeah, so it's literally like backfiring on them. Hold on, we're laughing about it, but I think you guys are right. Because on his website, he talks about how the jail is bad,
Starting point is 01:51:16 how the conditions are awful, and how it's horrible, how they treat people. I wonder if they were like, hey, let's turn this into a target people who feel disenfranchised or have been to jail. Use this to your advantage. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Wow. And that used to be a demographic that would never vote for him because he was so pro-law enforcement, et cetera. So now, like, it's funny because Democrats like always try to appeal to the African-American community. Like, we're going to give you guys,
Starting point is 01:51:40 we're going to help you guys out more, blah, blah, blah. But they never do. So this is actually them shooting themselves in the foot because now they've effectively made their opposition have an image of sympathizing with the very market that they try to market to the most
Starting point is 01:51:56 to get their votes. They made a white man relatable to the black man. There you go. Literally. He can also point to the First Step Act and the work they did there within the community
Starting point is 01:52:03 as far as people who'd been jailed for... But that's like a hard policy question you have to know about yeah trump getting arrested and being like that jail was whack they're gonna be like yeah you got rappers that never supported him supporting him now yeah crazy to me bro you want to know what's messed up out of the 19 defendants only one was remanded without Bond. Only one. Who? Only one. Who? What do you think his race was? Black?
Starting point is 01:52:32 Black. The only, the only Trump defense. No, I'm sorry. That's that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only one. My understanding. The only one was remanded, right? Am I wrong?
Starting point is 01:52:40 Yeah, so the one that was remanded without Bond. Director for Black Voices for Trump. I can't remember his name. The that was remanded without Bond. Director for Black Voices for Trump. I can't remember his name. The only one remanded. To be fair, though, I think there might be one or two other black defendants who were not remanded. But I do think it's funny that the only one who does end up getting remanded. Oh, my God. I'm like, they're racist.
Starting point is 01:52:56 They're all kind. Those scary movies where the black person dies first, right? Pretty much. That was wild, man. Let's grab some more. Desus says, got my cast brew coffee and Ripperverse comic today. Thank you, Tim and Eric. That's well, man. Let's grab some more. Desus says, got my cast brew coffee and Ripperverse comic today. Thank you, Tim and Eric. Best day in a while.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Awesome. Yes, Tim and Eric. How, how, very great. No? No. You get it. Tim and Eric? You don't know what Tim and Eric is? You're not familiar with Tim and Eric? Oh, wow. You guys don't know what Tim and Eric is? No. Is that you? Somebody else? No.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Well, yes, they're referring to me and Eric Julyic july but tim and eric was a show on adult swim oh ah okay no i don't remember oh well i mean there you go cultural relevance out there sean lewis the really good uh really good really good post is trump quote i will surrender paying the full two hundred thousand dollars if georgia donates all of the money to help the hawaii fire victims otherwise serve the warrant and come get me. After the conversation we just had, I understand why he surrendered now. Because the guy, the rich elite, getting pulled out of his house by cops is not going to look good. Especially for lower class kind of people. So that's why he surrendered.
Starting point is 01:54:02 And also, like I said, the optics. They already have him as an insurrectionist. So it like by him saying i'm not coming blah blah they can go ahead and say see we told you about january 6th the sky it doesn't love he's trying to overthrow the government he doesn't even follow the law a peaceful surrender say okay i get it yeah it's it's an optic situation man because it's crazy how they spun january 6th to make him look like it was he was he's an insurrectionist when he he literally said protest peacefully but they always tend to forget that i think if uh i was gonna put this in words that was gonna be more relatable trump is now my wiga just saying bro there you go chad canego says the earth is a donut the moon is the donut hole. That proves it, dude. That proves it.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Raymond Magnuson says, correct me if I'm wrong, if Trump is acquitted in the false alternate electors charge, could this give the Democrats precedence to use alternate electors themselves at the discretion of Kamala Harris? It's really interesting. Alternate electors are not illegal. They've been done before. In 1961, Richard Nixon, as vice president,
Starting point is 01:55:04 rejected the certified republican uh uh electors in favor of the uncertified democrat electors by personal choice because the vice president can do that that's the precedent by which donald trump was like i'll do the same thing and they said nope you can't it's illegal which is just not true it may be illegal now to change the law but the vice president always had the authority to reject votes that's the purpose of the vice president they say it's ceremonial no it's it's literally not the vice president thomas jefferson did it too if i'm not mistaken rejected electors i think so i don't know about that i know in 1876 i think it was alluded to in his in his uh interview with
Starting point is 01:55:37 tucker 1876 the end of reconstruction they didn't know which electors to count there was a civil war was on the verge of breaking out again and they said okay let's compromise and just figure who's gonna be president and so the the agreement was okay you can be president but reconstruction is over this is a case of they can do it but i can't do it yep pretty much that's exactly it inside reminds me of us oh yeah bro we can relate my wiga man we could relate, bro. We do certain things and we get penalized for it, man, but other people do it too. Cellular says, men's gymnastics is subsidized
Starting point is 01:56:10 by USA Gymnastics, which is primarily funded by the women. Although it's bad because Title IX decimated men's NCAA, which negatively affected our Olympic performance.
Starting point is 01:56:18 There we go, Title IX. That's what it is. That is one thing. I think gymnastics, I'm not super familiar with it, but it sounds like that one's where it's just mostly heavily female. I can tell you that when I was a kid, all of the gymnastics programs in my area of Chicago didn't allow boys.
Starting point is 01:56:33 It was only for girls. Well, yeah, they get more funding too. But why is gymnastics only for girls? I mean, like guys can do backflips. Yeah, no, it's for men too, but it's just not as highlighted because it's not as funded. I can give you an example. Men's rowing, right? I rowed Division I can do backflips. Yeah, no, it's for men too, but it's just not as highlighted because it's not as funded. Like for, I can give you an example, like men's rowing, right? I rode division one at Northeastern University.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Like we, even though we were a better team, right? And we ranked higher than the women's team because the women's team absolutely sucked. They got way more funding because of Title IX because it was, yeah. So that's what ends up happening a lot of times. David Taranto says women's tennis is legit at least in the money-making department but the best pro woman couldn't beat a d1 man not even close yeah i mean serena williams would lose i mean i think she lost an exhibition game to like a hungover dude ranked that's the story yeah they said they could beat any man ranked 200 and he was
Starting point is 01:57:19 like okay i'll do it and then he showed up smoking and drinking and won. W-mans. I mean, I read that on the internet. I don't know if it's true. No, it's true. She got smoked, man. It's, yeah, dude. I mean, I say this on a podcast all the time when girls get mad at me.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I say, you know, women are physically inferior to men. Yeah, that's so messed up. And it's like, no, it's the truth. And even in other endeavors, right? You look at video games. You look at chess. You look at Formula One driving. You look at things that aren't even necessarily physical, but maybe just a reactionary time.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Men dominate that too. We love women, by the way. Yeah. We just acknowledge the differences between us. And I think women need to be put in positions where they have more advantages, like the kitchen. All right. All right. Costly Gold says, Canola was originally a trademark name of the Rape Seed Association of Canada.
Starting point is 01:58:07 The name was a condensation of can from Canada and ola meaning oil, low acid. Really? Hmm. I thought that was... It comes from a... Oh, is that what it is? Rape seed?
Starting point is 01:58:20 Is that what it is? What? I didn't know that. I had no idea what it was. All I know is I always just see the thing that says canola oil on it and it's got like a weird plant and I'm like, I don't know. It's food. But I didn't know that I had no idea what it was all I know is I always just see the thing that says canola oil and it's got like a weird plant and I'm like
Starting point is 01:58:27 I don't know it's food but I don't use it I like using I like using butter for basically everything though yeah just if I'm going to use oil
Starting point is 01:58:35 it's going to be butter and then I'm going to drink a glass of heavy cream take a stick of butter and just microwave it a little bit and then pour it right into my mouth
Starting point is 01:58:42 I'm kidding that's a lot of calories I was going to say yeah that's a lot of calories bro I do have like a fourth cup of heavy cream for breakfast and that's it okay is peanut oil better than regular oil because what's regular oil though i don't know just whatever they use other than peanut oil yes absolutely because i can't i can't i can't tell you where's a woman we need to ask this question yeah i'll just say this i would i
Starting point is 01:59:04 would rather have i would rather have peanut oil than canola oil, but I'd rather have avocado oil or olive oil than peanut oil, and I'd rather have butter than any of it. Yeah, olive oil is... I think butter is just the best. Organic, grass-fed and finished butter. Yeah. I learned this.
Starting point is 01:59:21 I didn't know this. Grass-fed beef. What do you think that means? Cows that eat grass? That's not what it means. It means that at some point they gave the cow grass. Oh, wow. At some point. Grass-finished
Starting point is 01:59:36 means the cow only ate grass. Oh. So you get these words and it says grass-fed beef and they're like, right, when they were young we them grass, and then we switched them over to grains. Oh, my God. Grass-finished means they ate nothing, but they foraged their whole lives. It's like when they put, like, candy, and they say, 100% fruit.
Starting point is 01:59:55 And you're like, wait, no, this is a lie. No, no, they say 100% pure beef. And then they argue legally, yes, of the 10% of the burger that's beef, it is 100% pure beef. Conspiracy here. Organic food. Is it real? How do you tell if it's organic or not? How do you know?
Starting point is 02:00:12 They still spray pesticides on it. It gets certified. Yeah, it does. There's certain regulations as to what they can or can't use in terms of pesticides and other chemicals that are on organic food. But we have coffee at Casper.com. It is all certified organic. That means it's a certain process by which they don't use certain chemicals
Starting point is 02:00:29 and things like that. And then we have to prove it, submit it to the government, who then says, we agree with the assessment, and they slap the label on it saying, we checked. Shout out to all the vegans.
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Starting point is 02:00:56 Shout out time. Guys, check us out on Fresh and Fit, man, on YouTube and Rumble. And yeah, I mean. Pretty much it. Yeah, pretty much. We live stream Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. We do the daytime show, Money Mondays, Womanizer Wednesdays,
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Starting point is 02:01:21 I cover serial killers, terrorism cases, murder, famous cases, high-profile cases. I break down cases like this with the trump situation i read the legal documents give you guys my professional assessment on it and yeah man we give you all everything thank you for having us bro and thank you for having us tim yeah cultural that was really really fun yeah and i'm glad you guys were able to see you in miami and we're gonna have tim on the pod i know people some of you guys were probably wondering hey hold on you guys scheduled the show whatever we just had like some technical difficulties because tim has a different setup than we do um but tim's gonna come to miami we're
Starting point is 02:01:47 gonna have him on the pod so don't worry we'll definitely talk to tim when when do you guys do your normal show uh 6 p.m 6 p.m monday wednesday friday yeah one-on-one and then girls like nine yeah so yeah um but yeah guys fresh on youtube and rumble check us out over there tim do me a favor though shout out to rumble man come. We're coming in October to Miami. Interview with No Beanie. That's not going to happen. Free the beanie! Free the beanie, man!
Starting point is 02:02:11 Okay, cool. This guy fresh, man. He said, nah, nah. But nah, man. Thanks for having us on the show. It's always great. This is our third time on. It's always really fun coming up here and hanging out.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Even though we're out in the middle of nowhere. I'll tell you guys a funny story. First time we ever came out here, right? It's out in the middle of nowhere. And me and Fresh get out the car and it's all dark and i'm like bro that's it dudes and white guys we're done we're done this is a setup where there's no podcast it's a wrap for us and uh it was a great time i should have stayed in barbados man yeah burning crosses or something yeah i was like i was like man it's a double i'm like i'm like black and arab and Muslim, and he's Bajan.
Starting point is 02:02:45 I'm like, oh, my God. They got like a kiltacular right now. This is going to be so easy for them. We should have never agreed to this. We're done. We're done. And then we walked in. It was really a podcast.
Starting point is 02:02:54 But Tim's always a great host, man. It's always fun to be here. It's always great to hang out with you guys and chat it up. Right on, man. All right, guys. If you want to follow me, you can follow me on Instagram and X slash Twitter at Brett Dasavik on both of those platforms Pop Culture Crisis is Monday through Friday
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