Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #849 Trump Judge Sets Trial Date For SUPER TUESDAY DIRECTLY Cheating 2024 w/Spike Cohen

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Libby Emmons & Spike Cohen to discuss Trump's trial date in Georgia being set for the day before Super Tuesday, New Hampshire & Florida exploring options to remove Tru...mp from 2024 ballot, the return of school closures and mask mandates, & fired Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin implicating Joe Biden. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The judge has set the trial date for Donald Trump in the federal case March 4th, the day before Super Tuesday, inhibiting Donald Trump's ability to campaign on the most important primary day of the election year. This is overt cheating in the 2024 election. This judge is anti-Trump. She'd already said that she's surprised he's even free considering what's going on. So we know where this is going. They are pulling out all of the stops. And I think one of the most damning things to come out from this story of Trump's indictment in Georgia is that the only person to be remanded to custody is the black guy who runs
Starting point is 00:00:36 black voices for Trump. We have a poll that came out from Fox News that says Donald Trump has 20 percent support among black voters. Now, if that's true, and it's a very big if because, you know, among that I'd like to see this poll repeated 100 times before I believe it. But if that's true, according to The Wall Street Journal and many analysts, if the Republican Party reaches 20 percent support among the black vote, Democrats cannot win. So this should be pretty interesting. And perhaps that's why the one guy who gets remanded to custody, no bail, is the Black Voices for Trump director. We'll see how that plays out.
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Starting point is 00:03:07 Alright, well, should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Thanks, man. We got Libby Emmons. Hey, Tim. How's it going? You're not Ian. You're Libby. I am not Ian. I'm Libby. I'm over here. Yeah. Who are you? I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events. Glad to be on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Right on. And of course, Hannah Clare's hanging out. Hey, I'm hannah claire brimlow i'm happy to be here with both of you tonight it's uh gonna be a fun show and serge is here yes i am before i head to miami to uh go prep for this big show so get your tickets y'all yeah it's gonna be fun all right everybody let's jump into this first story we got this from the post millennial breaking trump to appeal dc trial date of march 4th calling it election interference i have to agree there they know exactly what they're doing setting the state there's no question about it they try they try to stop it i think it was brian camp tried to shut it down in georgia and now at the federal level like okay well we're going to interfere by any means necessary former president donald Trump torched special counsel Jack Smith,
Starting point is 00:04:05 as well as federal judge Tanya Chutkan in a new post he put up on Truth Social Monday, just hours after his official trial date in Washington, D.C. was set for March 4th, 2024, the day before Super Tuesday. Trump suggested the actions of both parties amount to election interference and promised he would appeal the decision saying deranged jack smith and his team of thugs who were caught going to the white house just prior to indicting the 45th president of the united states an absolute no-no i like that have been working on this witch hunt for almost three years but decided to bring it smack in the middle of crooked joe biden's political opponents campaign against him. Election interference. Today, a biased Trump hating judge gave me only a two month extension. Just what our corrupt government
Starting point is 00:04:50 wanted. Super Tuesday. I will appeal. He made a follow up post saying page two colon. How do you have an indictment that is based almost entirely on the findings of the January six unselect committee of Marxists, fascists and political political hacks, when these same lowlives who have been caught lying for years about Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, FISA, the fake dossier, and much more, purposely and illegally destroyed and deleted all of the evidence, findings, and proof of the January 6th committee? When will deranged Jack Smith criminally charge the committee? Well, there's no question in my mind, and I think any reasonable human being can understand that when they set the trial date for the day before Super Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:05:31 this will inhibit Donald Trump from campaigning on the single most important day of maybe even the whole election, because whether Super Tuesday is huge, you're going to win the primary. But the votes, the turnout we see in the primary is it reflects the general election. Donald Trump won't be able to have rallies or if he does, it's going to be at a courthouse and it's going to give his opponents and Joe Biden a tremendous advantage. They know exactly what they're doing. Change my mind. Well, here's the thing about it. It's not just that it's Super Tuesday, which is 14 states, including Texas and California. It's also that they're seeking to put a gag order on him to not be able to talk about a lot of what's in the case. So they already did gag him for some of the stuff. I think anything involving witnesses,
Starting point is 00:06:17 information about that, that comes out pre-trial. But who knows if they're going to file another motion to try and stop him from having any further discussions publicly about what's going on in this case. I think that's a really big concern as well, especially when he comes out saying that it's election interference. They don't like that. And you also have you also have a lot of people saying that his post on Truth Social constitute a level of violence. Like when he says, if they come for me, I'm coming for you. And they think that, you know, like NPR thinks that coming for you and they think that you know like npr thinks that that's violence when really what that is is like also lawfare you know it's like further
Starting point is 00:06:51 legal implications well then that also implies that they're coming they see they're coming for him as violence yes of course they do because they think words are violence because they think words are violence they've already told us this right all through 2020 words are violence all the pronoun people words are violence it's it's it's a ridiculous concept when the when these far leftists are like words are violence and then they insult you and call you a name because by their definition your response should be what they describe as self-defense yes which is violence right you have to go loot things if you've been insulted you have to go it's what they do break yeah yeah that's important no i tend to agree with you i think he's certain to win the nomination at this point i i
Starting point is 00:07:29 don't see a scenario in which he doesn't you know pass away or something like that that doesn't result in him getting the nomination this is more about having the pretense or the pretext to be able to like you said to gag him to make it where he can't talk about what promises to be, if not the single biggest election issue, one of the biggest ones while he's campaigning. Well, yeah. And they just turned over what, like, I think 12 million pages of discovery. I think that came out today as well. 12 million pages. It doesn't seem like a real amount.
Starting point is 00:07:59 It's like when Saddam Hussein released it. It's actually 12.8 million pages of discovery that the DOJ handed off in the documents case. Every third page is just like a recycled article from like a 1970s Playboy or something, hoping nobody notices. Well, that's the thing. That's what discovery is. Like a lot of what they do in discovery when they don't want you to do well in your case is they hinder you by giving you too many boxes. They give you like everything that they can come up with and they say it's in here. And then you're going through it all. Yeah. We can't tell you where. You'll find it on your own. It's up with and they say it's in here and then you're going through it all yeah we can't tell you where you'll find it on your own it's in there no it's
Starting point is 00:08:28 in there yeah whatever it is it's hard not to think that the gag or any gag order imposed on trump would be broadly interpreted too so even if for some reason he could be you know at a campaign rally they're able to say well you reference the last election which of course he would because he's campaigning for president. And they'll say, no, you're in violation. It seems obvious that they're trying to trap him into potentially facing more charges. I'm torn between whether or not they want him in jail when they want him in jail. I think they do. But I don't know if like these Democratic leaders are in alignment on when and how because if donald trump went to jail
Starting point is 00:09:06 now it would be a massive boost for his campaign but it's really hard to predict exactly what would happen like if they remanded him to custody it would inhibit his ability to campaign but the press would be so explosive that it might make more money for for him than he would he did raise like seven million dollars off the georgia mug Right. And I think that was like yesterday's number or something. Yeah, that was yesterday's number. Now, they have remanded Black Voices for Trump. His name's Harrison Floyd. So he cannot campaign.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And he's the only one. Yeah. What was their justification for only jailing the black guy? Lock up the black guy. You know, they wanted to prove that judicial system is racist i'm surprised that no one caught that right away because i remember when i saw the news that he was being remanded i'm like like the only guy they remanded this is the black dude like out of like 19 people yeah yeah and then and then i think we mentioned on the show and everyone laughed and i'm like
Starting point is 00:09:58 you guys didn't like i thought everyone just noticed they did that yeah your tweet was the first thing i saw on that and i was like oh no well because libby doesn't see color that's right i don't see color but this is like a 4d chess thing they're saying see we told you this system is systemically racist we told you we told you that because we do it yeah i uh because we are racist we know it well there was that poll uh i saw a screenshot from fox news and i didn't see a headline reflecting that particular aspect of the story the headlines were all like trump improves and then you can read the poll and see that trump is enjoying 20 support among black voters according to fox news i don't believe it i don't i don't trust these polls because uh but far be it for me to say outright it is completely wrong wall street
Starting point is 00:10:46 journal i think it was a year ago found the exact same uh almost the same thing 17 and uh several months before a month or two before that found that latinos and asians were also skewing towards republican party and it may not be that they're skewing towards republican party but the left is going absolutely insane and the democrats saying things, we know gas prices are high, but sacrifice for Ukraine kind of drives voters insane. And they're going to be like, at this point, I'll vote for whoever offers me anything. Give me a ham sandwich and I'll vote for you. So I do think it is possible these numbers are real. And there is a lot of propaganda videos people put out where it's, you know, like black dudes saying like, yo, I'm gonna be free with you.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I F with Trump, man. Yeah, go Trump. I'm like, yeah, OK, dude, like, come on. You find a handful of guys. It doesn out where it's you know like black dudes saying like yo i'm gonna be for real with you i f with trump man yeah go i'm like yeah okay dude like come on you find a handful of guys it doesn't mean these polls are real those are fun videos though they are fun but the reason i'm skeptical is if this is true trump can't lose yeah there was actually something that came out this would have been back in like 04 or 05 that said that if uh black support if everything else remained equal, all other demographics remain equal. If black Democrat support went below 80 percent, there isn't a single state that they could win an election, a federal election or a statewide election. Wall Street Journal wrote that up, referenced it a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, well, and that's why it was so significant when trump gained like even two percentage points between 2016 and 2020 among black voters i mean he is this was like edison and pew research that found it but he is more likely to have support from black men than black women but especially in this you know four-year gap that we've had biden it's it wouldn't surprise me if he maintained the the stamina that he had produced in the four years he was in office. It was funny. We had a fresh and fit on the show on Friday. And Fresh was telling us that Trump getting this mugshot is going to resonate with a lot of people who felt that they've been unjustly incarcerated. They're going to see this guy who's being unjustly incarcerated.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It's going to resonate with him. He's going to earn their vote. Now, today, I saw this narrative where they're like, how dare you insinuate? Yes, this has been coming up all over the place. I've been dealing with this myself. Yeah, because Trump was put in jail, he'll gain black support
Starting point is 00:12:52 as if all black people have been in jail. And it's like, well, hold on there a minute. Yes, hold on. They are, so I can't speak for anybody else. I can just tell you
Starting point is 00:13:00 what we talked about on the podcast with Fresh and Fit. But, you know, Fresh is a black man telling me this and he was referencing specifically people who felt unjustly incarcerated not all black people now i don't know where the other narrative like maybe someone said something else i'm not going to say that that idea came from this show but people are saying it and now they're getting offended that it's racist to imply i suspect he's going to get at least a little bit of a boost in black supportive for no other reason than he created the
Starting point is 00:13:25 greatest rap album cover art ever. Like that is the best. That mugshot. Yeah. I've been hearing this from people that it's like basically racist to say that a mugshot would engender support in the black community but by the left's own numbers
Starting point is 00:13:42 right by the Democrats own numbers black people are proportionally by population more imprisoned, more disproportionately, disproportionately imprisoned, locked up, you know, unjustly treated in the system oh just like me and my brother and whoever else and i think that it's true like a lot of americans i think have been arrested you know most of the men that i know have been arrested at some point spend a night in jail whatever else but look at stop and frisk the democrats screamed that was racist and then when bloomberg was mayor he was challenged as mayor he said well look where the crime is you know we're god that's where the democrat that's what it says and it's like he's just he's just saying too bad yeah if the democrats are claiming that saved black lives by doing right if the democrats are complaining saying that black people are disproportionately targeted by police and then someone says i think that might
Starting point is 00:14:38 benefit trump that is being he's being uh unjustly you know charged it's absurd that people like how dare you but of course democrats what else can you expect from them? But utter hypocrisy. I think it's the bending of the logic. They'll be like, well, Trump could never experience the things other people could experience because he's whatever, white and privileged. I think part of it is, you know, as you watch him get buried in all this legal bureaucracy, getting 12 million documents sent
Starting point is 00:15:05 to him people identify their own challenges with law enforcement and the legal system right they just see that like this is not a system that is meant to give you a swift trial it's not something that necessarily is fair and it's not necessarily a racial sling so much as people who find that the system is broken is seeing that no one is safe from it trump it was the president of the united states and they're going to do whatever they can to try and keep use this this arm of the government to keep them out if it can happen to the previous president it could happen to anyone yeah it is interesting too that the doj has been trying to accelerate the timelines and the cases that they're doing that they're prosecuting and georgia and new york both seem to be stretching it out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It's like Georgia and New York want to get convictions after the DOJ gets convictions so that they can use those convictions in their case. Even Alvin Bragg got permission to use Trump's testimony in the E. Jean Carroll case for his falsification of business documents case, which of course, I just want to point out, Hillary Clinton got charged with falsification of business documents. She was fined $8,000.
Starting point is 00:16:05 The DNC paid $113,000. That was for the creation of the Steele dossier, which they classified as legal fees. They got that. And Trump's facing what? It's multilayered, right? They get one trial date, I think, in Georgia. You've got Kenneth Chaseborough, October 23rd. They will use all the testimony from all of these and they'll keep layering it on the first mission to inundate Trump's sphere of influence with legal challenges
Starting point is 00:16:31 that drain their resources and inhibit them from rallying campaigning. The second, of course, is to just put them in jail to get rid of them. And another large component is maybe the lastly, it's get him in jail if we have to. But the other large component is, can we utilize any of this testimony to remove Trump from the ballot? Which brings me to this story. Oh, it's getting worse from Politico. New Hampshire Republicans feud over bid to knock Trump off 2024 ballot. The state GOP chair defended Trump's eligibility on Monday. We also have this from Friday. Florida lawyer files challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 race, citing 14th Amendment. Now that one hit Friday. We know it has begun. They're going to try and file all these legal challenges, say Trump can't
Starting point is 00:17:16 be president. But this is new from Politico. Take a look at this. New Hampshire Republicans have erupted in a feud over a long shot effort to keep former President Donald Trump off the ballot in 2024, with the chair of the state GOP insisting Monday the front runner for the party's nomination will be included in New Hampshire and elsewhere. Some legal scholars and Trump critics have long argued the former president should be disqualified from the ballot under Section three of the 14th Amendment, which bars those who've taken an oath to support the Constitution from holding office again if they've, quote, engaged in insurrection against the United States or given aid or comfort to its enemies. But the dispute is taking off in New Hampshire, where Bryant Corky Messner, an attorney who ran on Trump's endorsement and Senate nominee, blah, blah, blah, is questioning Trump's eligibility for the ballot. I'm a constitutional conservative. The words say what they say.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I quite frankly believe it is in Donald Trump's best interest to get this looked at as quickly as possible. In any effort to keep Trump off the ballot, we'll face a steep climb, blah, blah, blah. We get it. But here we go, ladies and gentlemen, state by state. It's not even 2024 and they're already trying to remove his name from the ballot. If even a single state removes Trump's name from the ballot, you will have 75 million people at the bare minimum saying we never had an election. That, yeah, I would say that. I'm sure you would say that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I mean, 75 million people who voted for him last time around. I can't imagine that they would consider it a free and fair election if Trump's name is taken off a single state. Florida, especially if Trump's name's off in florida he can't win especially off especially prior to a conviction right like he's being found essentially being found not guilty being found guilty before a conviction and i i also think that's why they're trying to push these things forward is they're not just looking at the you know gagging him or the political consequences of it they're looking at trying to convict him so that he doesn't even qualify to run for president but criminal conviction doesn't matter because the lawsuit
Starting point is 00:19:09 citing the 14th Amendment is a civil matter. It's a political matter. So the question is, does a judge think Trump waged insurrection? We're not here to, you know, the judge is going to say the question laid before the court is not whether or not Trump committed a crime, but whether or not he waged insurrection based on the evidence from the January 6th committee, media report, media report, media report, video, video, video, it seems clear the judge just says yes. That's it. And then it'll get appealed.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Here's the crazy part. Let's just say it's December 12th and it finally goes to the Supreme Court. It's rapidly pushed through and they say, we reject this. You cannot remove Trump's name from the ballot when the election was a month ago right yeah that's a concern it's interesting too because and i'm sure you've seen it the stories out from the atlantic new york times you know npr whoever
Starting point is 00:19:55 else saying that trump should be off the ballot that they should use this 14th amendment and then i was listening to a podcast um like an NPR podcast, because I'm always interested to hear- What they say. What they say, you know, and I'll be like, that's not what happened. But I'm always interested to hear it. And they were saying that state, like secretaries of state for each state
Starting point is 00:20:14 and attorneys general, they could make the decision themselves that Trump was guilty of an insurrection and pull his name off the ballot. And they were sort of encouraging people to do that. I will say though, that the the new hampshire thing the um new hampshire gop chair was on charlie kirk today and was saying that he talked with the secretary of state and attorney general and doesn't think the move against trump on the ballot is going to happen but that doesn't mean that it couldn't
Starting point is 00:20:40 happen in other states and certainly a lot of democrats are saying that attorneys general have the power to do that what i don't understand is why wait wait unilaterally what the attorney general can unilaterally just say we take trump off that's what they were saying on this podcast i was listening to today was that they could that the attorneys general could say he's guilty of an insurrection that that could then be appealed but by that point like you were saying if he's already off the ballot then the election interference has already happened right right so you know you like you have to then encourage a pencil campaign which i'm totally bringing a pencil it won't work i mean it's going to be an october surprise right something's gonna happen they want the legal challenge to uh to uh to go through after the after the election yeah that's right they do it in october you uh early voting and
Starting point is 00:21:24 mail-in voting is happening, and there's no name. There's no Trump on some of these ballots. And you know what? It's entirely possible. Based on what we saw in 2020 with the executive unilateral changes to the election rules and things like that, things like in Pennsylvania where they did universal mail-in voting in violation of their own constitution, a lower court judge said, yep. Then the Supreme Court goes, nah, it's probably fine fine even though any reasonable person can be like yeah your constitution says
Starting point is 00:21:48 you can't do this but they don't care they're gonna do whatever they want i wouldn't be surprised if come october they just as you mentioned attorneys general just take trump trump's name off and say there is no question everyone knows he waged insurrection we've been talking about it for years using that exact word insurrection yeah and've been talking about it for years. Using that exact word. Yes. Insurrection, yeah. You have to use that word. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Because they've been saying insurrection specifically because of the Constitution. And then what happens is they say, if you have a problem with it, sue me. And everyone does. And then the election's over. And they say, what's the big deal? We had an election. It's like with COVID when in New York state um governor cuomo shut down all the churches and a suit was brought and it ended up getting an emergency hearing before the supreme court
Starting point is 00:22:30 and the supreme court said no you can't shut down the churches but that was months and months and months later and by that point like most of the people had stopped going to church altogether and cuomo said okay we'll get rid of it and then he did another one in a slightly different way that did the same thing. So that it could then be challenged again and months later be ruled to. Yeah, look, you know, I don't think they brought a challenge at that point. I think they were out of cash. I got it.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I got to tell you, I don't know when people start to realize that the courts have no enforcement power. Everything's going to start breaking down because it's always it's an interesting thing, right? The executive branch has its enforcement power. The judicial, the legislative branch has subpoena power and they can make criminal referrals it's a bit weaker the executive branch is obviously where most of the power is almost all of it but the uh the courts what can they do other than bang the gavel and say do it and of course you know courts have some degree of enforcement but it's minimal if a court says something and no one abide by it what do you do? I tell this people when it comes to private matters too. It's the old saying,
Starting point is 00:23:28 a person can be judgment proof or you can't squeeze blood from a turnet. I'm like, if you win a suit against someone, look at Alex Jones. They sue him for the entire GDP of France. That's what they requested. I think they won a billion dollars. I'm like, you're not going to get a penny out
Starting point is 00:23:44 of him because you get in line behind all of his other creditors. It's just you can't just make these things happen. There's no guarantees. Also, they're ensuring that he stays on the air because he's going to need to stay on the air in order to earn money to pay them back. Oh, that's funny, too. Yeah. Unless I think they said they want to destroy him. But here's my concern.
Starting point is 00:24:01 This is what I was thinking about over this past week. We saw the Chaz, the george floyd um autonomous zone we saw the atlanta autonomous zone these things popped up we saw uh random acts of violence and now you have on top of the political violence a story we'll get to in a minute a gop lawyer we don't know what happened was killed in his home he was stabbed to death maybe maybe political maybe not but we'll talk about that but with the escalation of political violence that we've been seeing to the point where stephen marsh who wrote the book the next civil war says we're in civil strife i had a lingering thought about these autonomous zones it's funny to me that so i was trending earlier on twitter because you know in your own category and i own in my own category too uh which is the tim pool category
Starting point is 00:24:43 yeah that's right and it was people people were talking about civil war it's like oh i said to drink and i'm like it's really interesting you know honest question uh if i were to tell you that say like a president claimed the election was completely fraudulent large amounts of his supporters were claiming that he would he's the true president and biden's illegitimate there had been a dispute over who actually won the election in the previous election cycle as well. And then you ended up with a bunch of people storming into the Capitol and fighting with police in front. You also had a roving band of 100, 100 plus far left extremists storm onto government property in Georgia and in one instance get into a shootout with police
Starting point is 00:25:23 shooting a cop and then the cops shoot back, killing one of the extremists. You have far left extremists being arrested and charged overtly with domestic terror. I'm like, at what point do you say maybe, yeah, civil war, right? My point is this. All of that stuff, it's almost like you got to keep reminding people that, hey, this stuff happened. I don't know where it goes from here, but yeah, far left extremists took over a government site in Georgia and opened fire on police. After torching several homes in the area, the police came in and returned fire. A cop was struck and one of the extremists was killed. Like, yo, it's getting crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:56 All right. That is crazy. Now imagine this scenario. This is what got me worried. Chaz and the George Floyd Autyd autonomous zone were on public property the atlanta autonomous zone was it was on a wendy's but the one who's burnt to the ground and then everyone kind of abandoned the area so we have this uh these different circumstances what happens if far left extremists occupy a piece of private land let's say in uh in georgia or tennessee or
Starting point is 00:26:24 something slightly more conservative leaning area near an urban environment they occupy to set up their autonomous zone on a derelict piece of private property the person who owns that property then goes to the police and says get these whack jobs off my property the police say we have no capability to do that like we saw with chas and george floyd and atlanta the police backed down and we're like, we're not getting involved. But what happens when a private owner or corporation says, if the police won't do anything about it, I will? Well, you saw there was a guy in Atlanta who was he was a landlord. He had he owned a home. He was renting it out.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Tenants moved out a couple days later. He went to check on the home and he was met with a guy with a shotgun, a bunch dogs and some prostitutes and he was like oh why are these people in my house he was like you got to get out of my house the people in the house the squatters called the police said that it was their home the police got the guy you know carted off it's six months later he's still waiting for the people to get out of his house he's still paying the mortgage and he's stuck he doesn't have a property he doesn't have any rights apparently there was also i mean the other thing too is like it depends on where the government is do you remember the move organization in philadelphia yeah and they were
Starting point is 00:27:34 bombed actually by the city yep um but this was a group of black nationalists who had uh taken over a little area in philadelphia in Philadelphia. They had purchased a property in Virginia and they were planning to move to Virginia, get out of the city. And there was a shooting of an officer, officer ramp. I think it was in 79 and a bunch of people like nine people ended up getting arrested and put in prison for that. They were called the move nine. And so they decided to stay. by staying what ended up happening is the mayor of philadelphia who was a black mayor is it wilson good am i remembering that correctly i don't know anyway he uh coordinated with the fbi and bombed they firebombed it they firebombed it and as people were trying to run out they shot them yep it was like waco at a neighborhood level. Right. Yeah. And it was a response to a legitimate issue.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Right. But they basically declared war on the neighborhood. Yep. And they burned down houses, like not just the move compound, but they burned down houses in the area as well. You know, that's when the government was more, had a stronger monopoly on their violence. But the government was in control of the violence at that point. And that's not the same now right and so now my concern is what happens if another chas
Starting point is 00:28:48 happens but it happens on like abandoned property not even abandoned derelict is a better way to put it like someone owns it and they're like let's say a corporation you know nordstrom just shut down in san francisco which is like a big deal that That is a big deal. The mall is still owned, right? I think the building was forfeited by Westfield to the bank. So, okay, let's say a large corporation owns three acres of land somewhere, and the far left decides we're going to take it, and no one can stop us. Cops aren't going to go engage in a shootout. They're going to ignore it. Not in an abandoned mall.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Not even an abandoned mall. Not even an abandoned mall. Like, let's imagine it's just like an old warehouse building that's not being used, but it's still on the books for some big corporation or moderately sized corporation. Let's say like medium local corporation in a city that's got like a few board members and maybe a couple hundred employees.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So it's small enough, but big enough. The far left decides we're going to take it because it's not being used. It's got broken windows and graffitied all over but the people who own it are still keeping track of it and then what happens when the police are like we're not going to do it it's not on city property we're not going to get involved this is why the second amendment and the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense is so important like we've seized over and over again with chas and with Chop, with Uvalde and with Parkland, like when the police have mandated that everyone is vulnerable to violence and that, you
Starting point is 00:30:11 know, they're the monopoly on violence, they very often like kind of hang back. And in a way, you almost can't blame them because they also want to get home to their families, but they were holding back parents that were trying to get in there. In uvalde the guy who actually went in uh to uh to kill the uvalde shooter he was an off-duty border patrol agent who ignored their orders not to go in there and this is the most horrifying story it's it's horrific and and the case you were talking about the man in atlanta he was trespassed right he was actually arrested until they realized he was the property owner it's at at some point people need to realize you are your own first responder all the old cliche stuff our parents said about when when seconds count, the police are minutes away. They're they're minutes away to possibly hold you back as people
Starting point is 00:30:54 victimize you. And so we really need to understand just how paramount the right to self-defense is. It's sort of terrifying. I mean, I have like tried to avoid interactions with police my entire life. Like when I was a kid, at one point there were police in my house and I was like, oh, I'm not going to repeat this. This is never happening again.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but it's like, it's very scary when you come into contact with police because they show up and they think everybody is the enemy. Head on a swivel, yeah. You know, that's what they do. I mean, well, think about it this way.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Remember they killed that Australian lady? There was a, so you guys saw that video where the, was it like Extinction Rebellion people or whatever? In Nevada? Have the barricades in, yeah, is it by Burning Man? Yeah, it was all the people trying to get to Burning Man and the climate activists. Were blocking the road. Well, the cops apparently got a call that someone had a gun. I guess what happened was someone told the police, you need to get down here and clear this barricade before someone shoots one of these protesters, something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Then what happens is the dispatcher says to the police, there's concerns about a potential shooting. We've got protesters. So then the cops think these protesters have guns. And when the cop rams the barricade and jumps out with his gun he says where's the gun several times something like that i think that i'm pretty sure it could be wrong but think about it from the perspective of a cop all you know is you got a call from dispatch saying two people are fighting inside this house it's getting ugly we need someone to come and shut this down and then you show up and there's a group of people in the house being like get out of our house and some guy that's my house like what do they do yeah you know they typically just say civil matter have a nice day right like the tracy chapman song the uh the nevada thing was absolutely
Starting point is 00:32:34 amazing though because you had climate activists blocking the road you had burning man people trying to get through the road and then you had tribal police show up yeah to clear the road so the climate change people think they're on the side of the tribal police they think that they're on the same side as them the burning man people think they're on the side of the climate change people but it turns out they're not meanwhile the tribal police are the ones who get like all they have all the oppression points so they're the ones who get to win and then they show up as a bunch of guys in trucks with guns it was sort of it was just fascinating you did as a bunch of guys in trucks with guns. It was just fascinating to watch. You did have a bunch of upper middle class white people occupying native land.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Right, and that's one thing they said. You're trespassing on tribal land. It's one thing the cops said to these people. I want to jump to this story. This is from NBC Boston. GOP activist and lawyer stabbed to death in his Durham, New Hampshire home. Full stop. We have no idea what happened.
Starting point is 00:33:25 It is entirely possible that this guy had a bad poker game and then somebody got mad at him. No idea. He could have been cheating on his wife and then she comes home and says, ah, and then they fight and then she stabs him. We have no idea. However, not knowing the issue is typically that whenever we get a news story about a victim who is left, let me stop.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I'll put it this way. When Jussie Smollett comes out and claims some guys threw a noose around his neck, the whole world shuts down. Every television network runs a tribute. You get, at the time, Ellen Page saying, like frantically, because some guy hate crime hoaxed all of us. And then when you get a story about a GOP lawyer being stabbed to death, it's like, well, you know, we don't know exactly. So let's move on from this. That's why I think this story matters. Because maybe people on the right, be it post-liberal, libertarian, whatever you want to call yourself, should start saying, when these things happen, we make the assumption in the worst until
Starting point is 00:34:24 we learn otherwise, because they went balls to the wall for Jussie Smollett. So how about we say we demand answers as to what happened to this GOP lawyer who got stabbed to death in his own home? The police are claiming was self-defense. I'm sorry. It's going to be difficult for you to convince me. And it's possible that a person in his own home was killed in self-defense by a different person. It's possible. You know, you invite someone to your house, and then you have the intent of hurting them and they defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It can happen. But still, lawyer in his own house, stabbed to death. I'm not leaning towards self-defense here, but I don't know everything. I don't know. It's hard because there are no arrests made. We're 12 hours out. There's one article up from a local news station saying they've identified the person involved, but they haven't decided what's going on.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I mean, the longer there are no answers in communication, the more suspicious it gets, the easier it is to let sort of the conspiracy theory run wild. The day after Jussie Smollett. This has been a week. The day after Jussie Smollett this has been a week the day after jesse smollett how about uh the bubba rope incident right the nascar thing it is national news headlines everywhere and now we have this story and and and everyone's been like well you know hold on there a minute you know we don't know for sure and it's which is the reasonable take exactly like this
Starting point is 00:35:40 is how everyone should respond to stuff like this is exactly let's find out the facts no exactly that's why i said in the beginning for all we we know, we've got a bad poker game. Yeah. But I think the issue here is I'm going to lean towards, you know, the back of my mind, political, because when it comes to instances of mass tragedies and the perpetrators left wing, they disappear. Whenever the bad guy, whenever the person committing the crime happens to fall into the alignment of the corporate narrative it's like uh-oh can't have that one getting out and the story vanishes well it's like jasonville versus nashville just gonna say that
Starting point is 00:36:12 yeah the manifestos yeah that's right or how about uh the guy who rammed the christmas parade in uh where was it waukesha and then it was just like no idea a truck did it a truck crashed into these people in the literal same city where the kyle rittenhouse uh shootings happened no that was And then it was just like, no idea. A truck did it. A truck crashed into these people. In the literal same city where the Kyle Rittenhouse shootings happened. No, that was Kenosha. That was Kenosha. Oh, Kenosha. Nearby though. Nearby.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Okay. So, but I think they were triggered by the same. It was a couple days after, because we were in Austin at the time and we, Kyle Rittenhouse had just gotten, I think within 48 hours this happened. So they were right next to each other. And he had posted, the guy had had some like BLM related stuff on his Facebook page, but also he had like crashed his car
Starting point is 00:36:50 into his like child's mother before driving to the parade. I mean, obviously it was a very unstable person. And then he stopped to try and get a sandwich, remember? Yes, and he represented himself at trial, which was something to behold. Did you see that trial?
Starting point is 00:37:02 Oh, I watched a lot of it. I covered it for the site. The patience that judge had. I thought that judge should get him i mean because part of it was like he just kept interrupting like you're saying you know when you don't believe in what the courts are ruling you can kind of defy them it also turns out that if you don't want to follow the procedures of the court it is challenging to enforce uh anything and also ensure the person who's representing themselves gets a fair trial he He had to keep getting sent to another room to watch virtually and then it's a question of like, can he
Starting point is 00:37:28 accurately represent himself? This is an aside, but you know, in the case of this lawyer, what's hard is like, either way, loss of life, very sad. You know, the police in this town are saying there's no threat to the public, so that's sort of playing, I actually think it's leaning towards
Starting point is 00:37:44 domestic violence. But actually think it's leaning towards domestic violence or they're going to imply it. But like it is extremely difficult. I totally get you don't want to jump the gun and blow something up that you're giving the police a chance to accurately investigate. On the other hand, it is hard to say this is a fairly prominent political figure
Starting point is 00:38:01 in a state that's the first in the nation to primary. So we kind of need some information here as soon as possible. And this past week, the GOP was arguing over whether or not to remove Trump from the ballot. So I don't care to give anyone the benefit of the doubt. And my bigger concern is as a reasonable person, you're right. Domestic probably seems like what this may be. The person who identified may be a significant other. And that's why're like oh my god and they're saying self-defense like who else would be in your right yeah who else would be defending themselves in this guy's right not a visitor but someone who actually lives there as well uh that being said if the uh freedom faction of
Starting point is 00:38:37 individuals whatever you want to call that uh the anti-establishment faction does not get serious in their propaganda game, they lose. And I don't mean to just lie. I mean to make noise at the very least. Win on the merits of being reasonable. That's why I opened the segment by saying probably a bad poker game. Who knows? But be noisy enough about it to force the conversation.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Because in the event that there is and there have have been like aaron danielson for instance someone shot and killed in the streets of i think it was portland right it was uh yeah portland by a far left extremist michael rhino these stories need to get max attention when andy no was mercilessly beaten and attacked with the concrete milkshakes in in uh was that portland as well right yeah uh that forced even brian stelter to say okay know, we got to talk about this because it's like going massively viral as images everywhere. Attention needs to be brought to it. And those are those are the victories where you can start to to convince these regular people who don't pay attention. There's something going on here. And I'll give it I'll give a specific example. Oliver Anthony. Right. He gets really, really big. He issues these statements after the fact, like, why is Fox News playing my video? Ha ha. It's about them. He says it's not about politics. It's not because he
Starting point is 00:39:49 does not know what the culture war is. Everything he sings about and he's a good avatar for this. Everything he sings about representing working class people is effectively a right, quote unquote, culture war right position. But then he doesn't understand because he's not involved deeply in it. So when the media attacks him and calls him conservative right wing and the left says it seems like no no it's not left or right i don't know what you're talking about it's just my lived experience well he didn't even have a twitter account until august you know and now here he is and that's my point these regular people you go to them they don't understand the depravity and the evil of the uniparty neocon neolibs all of these warmongers and this garbage they don't get it the jesse smollett stuff the woke corporations they think well you know i'm
Starting point is 00:40:31 going to be somewhere in the middle but they don't pay attention and then when you actually engage and you say something like look i'm not here to argue about policy or anything like that but it is true that joe biden fired got that prosecutor fired while threatening to withhold a billion dollars. As soon as you say that, you're right wing. My favorite thing is when he said you got money for foreign wars, you can't feed the poor. It's like that's a right wing talking point because the left says sacrifice for Ukraine. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Like you're in the politics, dude. My point is normies don't get it. And if you're loud enough and we bring up more stories like this and we question these things, maybe might start to see more of the of the issue all of go ahead no bio being oliver anthony is kind of the personification of what pericles said long ago which is you may not be interested in politics but politics are interested in you and we're seeing that this is a guy who you know writes songs and he did one about his frustration with how things are going. And it was, I mean, there was a political element to it, but the guy clearly does not want to be political.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And it seems like the rest of his songs aren't political to speak of. And he's been thrust into this political battle he didn't want to be a part of. And, you know, a part of me wants him to just be able to just be a guy who's making songs. Unfortunately, he's being dragged into something he didn't even want to be a part of which speaks to what you're talking it's because there is a culture war no you do not as exactly as you mentioned pericles i think you said right
Starting point is 00:41:52 yeah uh you may not be interested in politics politics is interested in you there's nothing you can do about it we're in a culture war if we were in if it was 20 30 years ago you can say i don't care for democrats or republicans leave me alone and people might be like okay i get it today doesn't matter. The moment he said minors on an island somewhere far right. Yeah, that was it. And then they started accusing him of being QAnon. And he's like, I'm not political.
Starting point is 00:42:13 That song's about Joe. Joe Biden's the one funding the foreign wars. And at the very least, while there are many Republicans who want war, there are many who don't. So there's a debate happening over there and not one happening over there. It is clearly about more about one side than the other the other thing too i mean you were talking about 20 years ago the culture war and it's like 20 years ago is about when um arts artists and art programs and all that kind of thing started saying that you have to be an
Starting point is 00:42:40 art activist and politics started being really infused into art programs which is when I was in grad school and that's what it all turned into like I was studying theater and the next thing I know it's not about telling a good story it's not about making something beautiful it's about infusing your work with political narrative so that started there and it's been pushing out this whole way and now we see you know like Oliver Anthony can't get a song out without it being part of the culture war but like also you kind of need to know where you're where you're squatting down you know what i mean like take a look around yeah i i right i gotta completely agree with that
Starting point is 00:43:15 the dude uh it's an awesome song i i love richmond north of richmond obviously everybody loves it because it's good but the dude is he personifies in many ways a regular person. And I mean this with no disrespect. No, like literally. Right. Yeah. Seeing a lot of these problems we can all kind of identify while being lied to by the corporate press.
Starting point is 00:43:34 He did criticize them for it. But my criticism back is, my dude, you must pay attention. You must recognize who your enemies are and who your friends are. And I'm not saying the Republicans are your friends by no stretch of the imagination. Nikki Haley goes up on stage screaming lies about Putin wanting to invade NATO so she can justify her insane warmongering. Yeah, Republicans are mostly bad as well.
Starting point is 00:43:53 But you need to recognize who will come after you when you say something like miners on an island somewhere. Right? It is going to be the politicians who are on that plane who are typically aligned with the establishment and their corporate allies. Well, and this comes down to another way of saying you may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you. You may not be interested in democracy, but democracy is interested in you.
Starting point is 00:44:18 When more and more decisions that are being made, we aren't't allowing individuals to make them we're democratizing them what happens is that means that someone has to win which means everyone else has to lose and the people that lose have the winner's opinion enforced on them whatever that thing is so it becomes less and less about i disagree with how you live or what your opinion is you disagree about it but we're living separately it's one of us has win. So now someone that you disagree with is your enemy. And so, of course, the culture war is only going to get worse and worse as things are more centralized and democratized. And the answer, obviously, is the opposite.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Decentralization, allowing individuals to make their own decisions. That was one of the things I liked about Oliver Anthony's Rise was that it comes from a kind of growing area of music. I mean, it wasn't from, I don't know where music is headquartered in the US, I guess Hollywood and Nashville, depending on what you're doing. It's sort of this other alternative form of music
Starting point is 00:45:13 that's getting popular right now. I think there is a desire to decentralize our sort of cultural capstones, but it's very difficult because I think that's not what uh the system to give it a broad term wants you to do well it's the i think the art forms that are the most accessible for decentralization are comedy and music you know and so i think that that's in part why we're seeing um more counterculture people coming out in music and comedy but we're not seeing that as much in
Starting point is 00:45:43 film you know it takes an awful lot of money to create an independent film or a series, you know, or a theater performance or. Or if you're an actor, if you get that black ball in your file, like no one's going to want to hire you. That's why I think we were also. And they're on strike now, which I actually think is a boon to culture. I think that's a great thing that all of these people are not right now being paid to create garbage that we have to like stuff in our faces or is stuffed in our faces rather, you know? Yeah. Let's let's jump to this next story, because a lot of talk about trying to stop Donald Trump and get his name off the ballot.
Starting point is 00:46:13 There's another strategy that may be coming. ABC News has this one. President Joe Biden says he will request more funding for a new coronavirus vaccine. President Joe Biden said Friday that he's planning to request more money from Congress to develop another new coronavirus vaccine. President Joe Biden said Friday that he's planning to request more money from Congress to develop another new coronavirus vaccine as scientists track new waves and hospitalizations rise, though not like before.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Okay, well, what does this mean? On its own, maybe not so much, maybe something. We also have this. Schools close, bring back mask mandates over the rise of COVID-19 cases.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I think we got another one here. Citing rising COVID cases, these U.S. hospital systems have now reinstated mask mandates. Yeah. You know, it's really worrying to me that for the first time in human history, a virus is not,
Starting point is 00:46:56 we've got seasonal viruses, but now we're dealing with an election seasonal virus, which is particularly worrying. It's crazy. Yeah. But as always. How does it know? How does it know?
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's because as more people start gathering to rally, this virus spreads. All people are going to these political rallies. Only political rallies. Right, makes sense. It knows the in-person voting is coming and so it prepares. But if you're rioting, it doesn't mind. It's not affected by that.
Starting point is 00:47:23 They're all wearing masks. The rioters were wearing masks. But literally, the rioting, it doesn't mind. It's not affected by that. They're all wearing masks. Yes, that's so true. The writers were wearing masks. I mean, but literally the writers were wearing masks. They didn't want to be seen either. No, they didn't want to spread the virus, Libby. How could you say that? Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:47:34 As always, as always, I will stress, don't take medical advice from podcasters and talk to your doctor about what's right for you. That being said, it's kind of hilarious that all of these different preparations are being made being made and it would seem that another lockdown or heavy mandates are about to unfold so i'm also not a doctor i'm just a jew on the internet but uh and i could see where the confusion would come but uh there's something that that biden said uh during that when he was talking about uh the the
Starting point is 00:48:04 new uh vaccine that they're going to get funding for a vaccine that when he was talking about uh the the new uh vaccine that they're going to get funding for a vaccine that works it's let me read the quote noted yeah let me read the quote quote this is from abc news back off youtube i signed off this morning on a proposal we have to present to to the congress a request for additional funding for a new vaccine that is necessary, comma, that works. What is that implication, Mr. President? Now is not the time to be sowing any kind of anti-vaccine conspiracy theories. OK, why is no answer, Biden? Why is noted anti-vaxxer Joe Biden not trusting the science?
Starting point is 00:48:42 I don't. You know, Corrine Jean-Pierre is just like, do I say that he mixes up his words sometimes? Or would I say he was misquoted? Like, how do we spin this right now? Make no mistake. That didn't happen. That's,
Starting point is 00:48:53 she just has to say it didn't happen. He said, he added that. That's true. Gaslight until you win. He added that it's tentatively recommended that everybody get it once the shots are ready. It doesn't exist. We have to pass it before you can find out what
Starting point is 00:49:05 happens when you inject it like it that's literally no you don't need to test vaccines i don't know what you're talking about it hasn't even been developed yet but you have to take it yeah because this time it will work and again this is joe joe biden who is also not a doctor is tentatively recommended his wife is though his wife is a doctor dr jill dr jill she has doctor in her name college she has doctor in her name and uh what is that's what. That's what her parents named her. What is it called? Dr. Jill, yeah. She's a doctor of education. But it's not really a doctor.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It's called something else. Is it? Yeah. So it's even faker than that? It's not a PhD. It's called something else. I'm pretty sure she has her PhD. Nope.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Nope. Nope. It's not a PhD. It's something else. It's not? She doesn't even have a doctorate? It's an educational doctorate. It's called something else.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Listen, whatever she is, if she tells me that the thing that hasn't even been invented yet i have to take it then i have to trust her because she does call herself a doctor well biden did recommend it for everybody would you figure out what it is she has a doctorate in education but it's not saying it's not it's not a phd it's i'm looking oh it's an ed hd or something yeah it is yeah, yeah. But they're saying she can still use the term doctor. They're really, mainstream media is really defending her ability to use it. They really want her to be able to use it. I think that's why she got the PhD. Dr. Jill Biden deserves her title.
Starting point is 00:50:15 What? She has an EDD. Okay, there you go. Or an EdD. Right. Educational doctorate. Okay, so a doctorate, yes. Sounds like trash.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Sorry. Right. Sorry, Jill. I don't even, whatever. I don't even, what, philosophical doctorate? Is that what a PhD is? Yeah. I don't even, that is so stupid anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah. Credentialism. It is. It's rampant. She slapped a title on one of her covers. Also, typically. Dr. Hannah Claire Brimelow, what were you saying? That's me.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Thank you, Dr. Tim Poole. He was not a medical doctor, but he's a philosophical doctor. No, I think. He's a doctor of podcasting. That's true. You are. A POD. A POD.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And he's a doctor of podcasting. That's true. You are a doctor of trending. I hereby announce the creation of Tim Kess University and the granting of the PhD to Libby. Thank you. I'm excited. And no one ever said my university was accredited, but nobody asked. And I tentatively recommend that everyone enroll in this because this is a university that's going to work. Okay, but in all seriousness. It's decentralized.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Here's my question to YouTube. This vaccine doesn't exist yet. Are we allowed to question it? Are you allowed to question something? Dr. Tim Pool, you're posing a really great moral and philosophical question. I can't wait for your course on this in the coming fall term.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Are you allowed to question a vaccine they have not yet invented? I don't know. This is aocratic method. Look at this. This is perfect. Yeah, I know. Okay, now we have to trust the future science that's yes but now back to the politics do you guys think they're going to lock everybody down i don't and here's why
Starting point is 00:51:34 the environment well let me rephrase that i think there are some areas some of the the more bluer and more uh i guess more metropolitan areas might have limited restrictions. I don't think we're going to see the kind of lockdowns we saw before because that required an environment of people that this was a brand new thing that they were horrified at. I remember when I made my first anti-lockdown video in March of 2020, and I was being attacked by libertarians, many libertarians who were saying, well, we don't know how serious this is. Maybe we should, you know, maybe we should, you know, wait and see. They were scared. People were
Starting point is 00:52:07 legitimately and understandably scared. It might have been the apocalypse. I mean, come on. Everyone was comparing it to the movie Contagion. Sure. And the thing is, had it been that serious, I still would have been against lockdowns because only an idiot would have gone out outside. You wouldn't have needed to mandate it. But it created an environment where average everyday people are like, you know what, let's at least give it a couple weeks i don't know let's give it a couple months i don't think that happens this time i mean we're we're it covid never went away and everyone's just like you know what we now know what it is we know like our relative you know risk tolerance and so forth we're going to live our life kind of doing what we've been saying from all along if you don't
Starting point is 00:52:40 feel well stay home and if you think you're a high risk tolerance then adjust accordingly and if you don't then adjust accordingly i don't think lockdowns are going to be something they're going to be able to do and even fauci at some has thrown on the word endemic right it's harder to get people to to lock down for something that they've been living with for several years yeah and have figured out how to manage right like i don't really hear people saying like well you have to test before you come to my wedding or whatever anymore i also have this theory that they actually don't want full-blown lockdowns because that means that kids would have to go back to online schooling and that really drove a surge in homeschooling right because it uncovered all these things where parents were mad because we got to see like that's
Starting point is 00:53:17 like it was when my son was doing virtual learning that i realized that they were having a two-day course on uh what was it white privilege and systemic racism and i got my voice recorder ready and i lined it up and i like we're like we're taking this class together the whole thing for like the two days of that that's why my son was like mom our whole family is racist and i was like incorrect no no not actually also a democrat's president and they don't want massive job losses so i mean there's that as well i i don't i don't see and they can't and if they had to pay everybody to stay home they'd have to pull money from ukraine and we already know that zelensky's asked us and
Starting point is 00:53:54 europe to fund the next election or they do like they did in 2020 and 2021 and just print out like 40 of all the currency ever created and so where we already have high inflation in a year or so later now you're looking at 15 20 official inflation and probably closer to 25 unofficial you guys i just i don't see that happening i do they're they're pushing these mask mandates and i think it's a lot of it is like how far can we push? Government is a habitual line stepper. It is this constant, like, how much can I make people do what I want them to do? But I think they realized that the lockdowns, even with people as scared as they were, they turned up the boiling water a little too hot for the frog to tolerate. They've kind of gone back. And I think now they're going to do these like kind of smaller thing like, well, can we get a mask mandate? But just in
Starting point is 00:54:45 the more blue areas, is that going to work? How far can we push? I don't see lockdowns happening. We were talking about this before and I said, I think that they'll do guidelines, recommendations. Oh, guidance. Remember guidance? That was a fun time. That gives them the ability to roll out universal mail-in voting and early voting. Oh, that's happening.
Starting point is 00:55:02 No, that's happening. But they'll have an excuse now. They'll say, well, we're not going not gonna we can't lock everything down because the economy you know so we're gonna recommend people quarantine we're gonna recommend masks and we're gonna recommend vaccines and obviously for those that have decided to quarantine which is the right thing to do we're gonna send you a mail-in mail-in vote so then what they do is they just say we're gonna send everyone a mail-in vote because we're not gonna spy on you and see who's choosing to quarantine and who's not and that'll be their justification we're going to send everyone a mail-in vote because we're not going to spy on you and see who's choosing to quarantine and who's not and that'll be their justification we're not going to spy on you right now but we will other times we are spying on you but we're not going to admit
Starting point is 00:55:31 that we're spying on you exactly yes yeah they're spying on everybody that's next in the in the new update i think it would be hard to get certain states to lock down especially governors that are ambitious politically having seen basically desantis's rise because of his stance against lockdowns yeah i think you would maybe get a couple blue governors who are like this is a morally correct thing to do but for the most part they know it's it's essentially a political death sentence but they got to do something because uh trump's gonna win trump lost i i love the never Trumpers, and they're like, Trump can't possibly win. He lost by 42,000 votes in three states.
Starting point is 00:56:09 He just needs to win these swing states. That's the key right now. The country's massively divided. Which one are they? It's Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin. Is that what is being talked about, those three? Either Wisconsin or Michigan. I think it's Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:56:20 He's got no chance in Michigan. He won Michigan in 2016, but it was by a sliver, yeah. And then they got Whitmer. No, but someone want to look up what the margins were in 2020? We know what they were in Georgia, 11,780. Right. I think in Michigan, it might have been like 20,000 or something.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I could be wrong. I'll look it up. Look, I think Trump can recover in any one of these states. I think Trump could even get a couple percentage points of the popular vote. And the reason is, you know, you get all these people that think 2020 was stolen because fraudulent ballots and double counting and things like that. It's like, OK, sure, fine, maybe whatever. Prove it. Maybe you're right. I think the real issue is actually simple. Everyone was locked in their house and the mail-in votes arrived. It's just a really simple equation.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Lock everyone inside house, mail them ballot, blame Trump, then knock on their door and say, can I have that ballot back, please? Now, if there's no lockdown, they'll go knock on the door. And let's say the failure rate here is only 7%. Let's say 93% of the doors they knock on, someone is home and will fill out the ballot and give it back. A 7% drop. Trump wins.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Even 7%. We saw that from the story about Donald Trump and the Hunter Biden laptop story. That if what did they say? It was like 17%. Wasn't it 17%? No, it was like they would have changed their vote if they had known about the laptop. And that accounted for they said something like if 7 percent of people did not vote Democrats or switched for Trump, Trump wins. I think it was less than seven.
Starting point is 00:57:52 It was like a lot less because it was a 42,000 in a few states. If the Democrats lose a small fraction of the people who are locked in their houses, they can't win. I don't care what the popular vote is, even if Trump could or couldn't get it. The electoral vote, they're not going to be able to secure. Not to mention, you know, the economy is bad. And you know what? Let's do this. I have this this video I want to pull up for you that's going viral. Ian Miles Chong has this tweet. Life is hard and it's getting harder for the middle class. I'll just play a little bit of this clip for you guys. Seriously, my bills alone are $3,000 a month. I'm a single mom who receives fucking like $300 a month in child support for two kids. I can't do this anymore. I work every single day. I get maybe a day off. Sometimes if I'm lucky I'll get two fucking days off.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I'm sick of it. I'm so sick of this. And I fucking forgot to pay my daughter's braces. And now I have to bring her in for them to remove them. Because I can't afford to pay it all off at once. I am so sick of this country. I'm so sick of how expensive everything fucking is. Something needs to happen.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And that something is Donald Trump. No, I'm half kidding. But maybe if you, to this woman, and not personally, but in general, the economy was really, really great in 2019. It was nice. I went, I love telling this story. Went to a furniture store. we were starting the podcast this is like january this is this is january of 2020 and uh starting to test our role and i said uh i'd like to buy some furniture we need a table
Starting point is 00:59:35 that we can sit at and so we bought a table and the woman who was doing the sales was really excited as she wrote up the five thousand dollar ticket for all the crazy stuff we were buying to build a studio and uh she was laughing she was was like, she was like, thank you so much. She's like, wow. She's like, I gotta be honest. It's a really great day for me. You walked in and just bought it on the spot. And I was like, well, we know we needed it. You guys had it. We had checked it out before. And she was like, man, it's just been going really good for me. And I was like, what happened? She goes, this has been the best year of my life. She's like, I've never made more money. We had a contractor doing work for the, for the studio. And he said, I've never made more money. We had a contractor doing work for the studio.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And he said, I've never made more money in my life. It's been absolutely fantastic. Then COVID hits. Trump loses. Now you have Biden and all the ramifications that came with COVID, which was both Republicans and Democrats. And now you have these people under Joe Biden saying, I hate this effing country. I'm sick of how expensive everything is.
Starting point is 01:00:23 It's like, OK, let me show you another story. Let me see if we have it here from, no, it's not there. Here we go. From the Postmillennial. Washington power company raises rates to cover increased expense due to climate legislation. AG's office instructs them not to tell consumers
Starting point is 01:00:38 reason for higher prices. Keep voting for him. Keep voting for him. The VEK Ramaswamy goes on stage and says that the the uh the climate change agenda the the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on the economy it's right there in your face so if you're wondering why it is that you are struggling blame the democrats and the far leftists and the people who are trying to shut down energy but hey don't let
Starting point is 01:01:01 me just give a free pass to republicans i'm not a big fan of them either. But if you're coming and advocating for a carbon neutral energy policy and then telling us we can't have nuclear energy, I say F off, you're a liar. Well, because they are a liar because nuclear energy is the cleanest, most efficient power. It's also the most carbon neutral one.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So like from their own talking point of the most important thing, more so than anything else, is that the energy that we're getting is as carbon neutral as possible. Nuclear energy per kilowatt hour is exponentially more carbon neutral than the so-called renewables are. We also have an issue, too, where nuclear energy is something that we can generate here in the United States Where like solar and wind, we have to go buy all that stuff from other countries, import it over here using fossil fuels, of course, for our boats and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Yeah. It's also the safest form of energy production. Nuclear is. Yeah. So yeah, nuclear is. I blame the boomers for that. This is 100% the boomers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Because like there were nuclear weapons. They freaked out because they had to hide under their desks in the 1950s as school children. And then they took over the world and decided to delete everything that was worthwhile. This is your fault, Dad. It's the whale's fault. It's the whale's fault? It is. If we were only still using whale oil.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Wait, I was going to say, I want to hear this theory. It's the whale's fault. And I can explain. Okay. Sweet, delicious whale. You know, if only, no, I'm kidding. I've actually had whale before. It's disgusting and I don't recommend it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Seems greasy. I was really looking forward to that theory. Like extra turtle. No, to that no no it is the whale's fault let's play okay uh so greenpeace right they were concerned about nuclear tests that were being done uh in the ocean the initial purpose of greenpeace is my understanding was to stop these nuclear tests so they would get their little boat and they would go and sit in these areas where they wanted to nuclear tests and then they were like we can't do it because they are there. And part of the reason was that it was devastating to whale populations to save the whales. One of the co-founders of Greenpeace broke off and formed Sea Shepherds to protect whales. So this initial activism
Starting point is 01:02:56 to stop nuclear weapons from Greenpeace transformed into a desperate, well, now that we stopped something that's bad, how can we squeeze the teat and milk all these other morons for their donations? And Greenpeace went from, let's stop nuclear bombs into, how can we lie to people to keep maintaining our facade of environmentalism? They now just say whatever stupid garbled nonsense they have to, to trick morons
Starting point is 01:03:18 into giving them money. One of those things is that nuclear power is bad. And they revel in it because they make lots of money from it. It's a cash game, and it's beautiful profit. And and going back to what libby said it all started with their opposition to nuclear weapons testing so this would be like opposing solar panels because of melanoma or something like that like it has nothing to do with it it's literally it is what and in fact uh the reason that we tend to use the less efficient hard water reactors is because the U.S. government and other governments prioritized the production of nuclear weapons over actual energy production. Whereas newer forms of nuclear energy production like thorium salt reactors and things like that are far more efficient.
Starting point is 01:03:59 The half life, the half life of the waste only lasts like I, like 100 years instead of tens of thousands of years. Right. I've been reading about that. In every way, it's better. It's meltdown-proof. I'm not going to try again. I'm not a scientist. I'm just a Jew. But in every way, it's even safer than nuclear, which is already exponentially safer and better than everything.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Now we've got the advent of fusion, which I believe they've already reached ignition. Big stories. Now they're trying to figure out how to actually capture the energy from the ignition process. Miniature suns, I guess. That's going to kick off an energy expansion by which the human race has never experienced. And we are going to... Elon Musk, we need you. We need Elon Musk.
Starting point is 01:04:39 You know why? Rapid energy expansion. I don't know the actual numbers for what fusion, the exponential increase in energy output that we'll get from fusion relative to fossil fuels but the uh i believe nuclear is the most efficient i believe correct like the highest energy output that we have yeah uh it's remarkable it's carbon neutral and it's got a massive energy output and they won't do it so uh i watch this really amazing little mini documentary on energy. It starts with human energy.
Starting point is 01:05:05 We eat food, convert that food into kinetic energy through our muscles, the sugars, and we build things. We then figured out, hey, this big creature over here can pull it for me. So they strapped it to a cow, made the cow pull. It's animal energy. Then we started burning wood, then coal. We get petroleum. All of these rapid expansions of energy extraction rapidly increase human population, technological development, etc.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Once fusion kicks off, if we get to that point where we've got fusion reactors everywhere, we need spaceships, and we need them fast. And that's the whole point, right? The whole point of humanity, to a large degree anyway, is to create more stuff, to faster to go further right so you could look i mean people do they look at the history of humanity as the history of energy
Starting point is 01:05:53 consumption and energy creation and we do that and so like we hit fossil fuels which was great which elevated so many millions of people out of poverty globally. And now we're asking the entirety of humanity to take a step backwards by using less good energy resources instead of exploring and developing better ones. Nuclear is the way to go forward or this other fusion thing is the way to go forward. That's how we get to other planets.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And that is, of course, the goal is to keep going. Whether or not we go to other planets can be your opinion whatever we can we can simplify this for the average working class person explorers right but i just want to say this for the average person says bro i don't care about mars i don't care about venus i don't care about neptune or alpha centauri or whatever that whether i just want to know why i can't buy bread you can't buy bread because they are putting a wet blanket on the economy they could build nuclear they. They ain't going to do it. They want to shut down your fossil fuels without giving you an alternative because the real answer, the real reason they're doing is probably communism. And so they want to restrict what you can do, control what you can do, and you suffer
Starting point is 01:06:56 because of it. Keep voting for them. Look, I don't blame this lady who's talking about her kids and the hardships she's dealing with because everyone's dealing with that. I don't blame the working class for being exploited but to a certain degree i beg of these people to pay attention it's why it's so important when people are like i don't pay attention to politics i'm like dude i have little respect for that because you can't complain about why the prices are so high and then say but i don't do anything about it or even know why or
Starting point is 01:07:20 know why your complaints there they mean nothing to me yeah you come to me and be like well my house is burning down. I have no idea what's happening. I just like lighting matches in my living room and flicking them onto the floor. And I'm like, okay, well, maybe that's what caused your problem. Maybe you did a thing and you're not paying attention to it and you burned your house down. I was surprised in that. Oh, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I'm sorry. No, that's it. I just keep voting. They keep voting for this. I was surprised in the video that you can repossess someone's braces. Yeah, that is sort of fascinating to me. Well, I think the issue is they have to get taken off. And so she has to choose to pay to have them removed or go into like default, go into debt from the maintenance of them.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I did always wonder that, though, like for any of these procedures or like Invisalign or any of this, if you're on installment plans, what happens if you don't pay it? They repo your braces or your retainer i don't think that's what it is i think the doctor is more than happy to leave the braces on your mouth indefinitely because screw you can't pay oh and she's saying i can't afford this so we have to stop so we have to stop and get them taken off okay all right yeah it's like a long you know i i battled this in 2020 because i was traveling the country campaigning for vice president. And I would talk to people who go, yeah, you know, things are bad. But if they could just, you know, get us reliable checks.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And I was trying to explain to them, like, OK, what's happening right now is they've essentially shut down production for the most part. And they're going to print out ridiculous amounts of the currency that you use every day to buy things. And they're going to hand it to you. But in doing so, they're also going to hand a bunch off to the multi-trillion dollar companies at the same time and they're going to get the lion's share of it but in doing so they're going to greatly expand the amount of of currency without adding value they're actually taking away value by making you stay home so you have more money chasing fewer goods and services and in very short order once things begin to
Starting point is 01:09:06 turn back to normal, you're going to see shortages, you're going to see supply chain issues, and yeah, you're going to see rapid price inflation because price inflation is just an extension of monetary inflation. And that's what we've seen. And you had a handful of people in DC like Thomas Massey and Justin Amash and a handful of others who were speaking out against this. Everyone else, either because they wanted it or because they were afraid to go against the corporate media narrative about it, they went along with it. And we're now suffering the consequences of it. And to be fair, I was more in line with the with Trump. Spend the money, figure it out.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And I think hindsight being 2020, we now realize the mistake that was. But I think for the most part, too many of us trusted the machine when it said we were dealing with the deadly pandemic yeah we all we saw these videos coming out of china and i think good people tried to be good people and said look you know like these people collapsing it's terrifying now we look back and we're like okay it was bad but like man did they overhype this and drive us into the ground over nonsense and the real reason was probably political control well they also hid origins right yeah i still do they still they still do and and the thing is we're not we aren't quite at smoking gun territory yet but we're at like the smell of gunpowder territory it's like i mean we're getting there where we are here's what we already know the uh
Starting point is 01:10:22 the nih funded echo health alliance you creating using gain of function research to greatly increase the the function and to humanize viruses that were at least the one that we know of is at least i think either 96 or 98 percent uh genetically similar to the virus that creates covet 19 sars cove 2 um so we don't have that smoking gun yet but it was at the Wuhan lab that it happened at and as soon as anyone even asked a question about it they were called racist racist because that's that led me to start saying everything was racist like you know my son would be like mom can we go to Walmart and I'd be like that's racist you can't do that at all spaghetti for dinner and racism that's not racist that's like the one thing
Starting point is 01:11:05 i always make for dinner here's what's wild about that they were saying gain of function research that's racist it's because chinese people were eating bats right and you're like okay hold on there wait that sounds racist to me right well we uh no one's ever accused them of not being hypocrites so fair enough, that's actually true. You've got segregationist ally Joe Biden in there, the man who is famous for in the 19, the crime bill, in the 1970s,
Starting point is 01:11:35 okay, forced segregation had ended at what, like several years prior to that, at that point. And he was saying, he was in an interview. He said that he had an issue with integration because he feared that his children were going to grow up in a racial jungle right with corn pops kids with corn pops kids no no i yeah i got a couple theories about corn pop on
Starting point is 01:11:55 this one too one this is a long time ago this is back like how old was joe biden in the corn pop story this segregation area uh yes yeah yeah so i'm wondering if corn pop was a black dude and the real issue that joe biden had with him was his race here's you know a guy who's not supposed to be here i also think the simpler answer is that joe biden told the story about how little kids were rubbing his legs i bet corn pop was like hey you creep get get off them kids well even by the chain and he's like what'd you say to me i was gonna say even by his own story it started because he was making fun of the black man's hair the guy got upset and so he responded by threatening to hang him with a chain like this is his story yes this is this is the democratic incumbent this is his endearing lynching story it's joe biden's
Starting point is 01:12:42 endearing lynching story minutes moments or earlier that day where he talked about how he would force black children's uh faces under the water so they could stroke his legs or whatever it's like yeah this is a great story joe like what very bizarre that's why i kind of think that corn pop probably saw him doing that because that's part of the story is like the kids they'd rub my i got hairy legs yeah the kids would rub my they loved it. There's a cartoon of that. Creep. That is so nasty. It's so weird.
Starting point is 01:13:12 It's not like he has a history of sniffing children's hair. We've all been kids. Did you ever feel compelled to rub somebody's leg? A strange man's leg. By the way, you know, I got... Oh, there's the video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got hairy legs that turn that turn blonde's the video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got hairy legs that turn that turn blonde
Starting point is 01:13:28 in the sun. That child's face is all of us. Reach into the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair come back up again. They look at it. So I learned about roaches. I learned about kids jumping on my lap.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And I love kids jumping on my lap. Yikes. Maybe Porn Pop was just mad that he was calling black children roaches. I mean, the entirety of that story, there is nothing about it that isn't creepy or racist. And it was presented as wholesome. It's wholesome. This is a great story. This video is from a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:14:04 This was on the campaign trail all the time trail he was calling little black kids roaches yes he said he loves roaches in that clip yeah but i think everyone's like what is this person talking about who even knows i didn't even know that he was calling that that's what you know it's so good i love roaches i had no idea this is where right this is where he told the corn pop story right yes okay well there you go joe b's racist. News at 11. Yeah. Well, yeah. But the proof has been there the whole time.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Like, that's what's so interesting about hearing, like, someone recite it and be like, and then he said this crazy thing. And he said this crazy thing. And it's like, oh, wait, he has been open about this the entire time. And somehow they have repackaged him enough to get him to the presidency. Like, that's the craziest part to me. What I think is really wild, too, is that we keep having all of this stuff come out about hunter biden about his foreign business relations about how joe biden was on speakerphone calls right he was on speakerphone
Starting point is 01:14:55 calls with uh executives of burisma uh you know saying like hey hey dad these guys could use our help you know and biden being like okay that sounds great you know pleasantries and then get off the phone um we keep seeing all of this stuff we see the documents from comer that come out we see like all of this about all of this potential bribery stuff and it just doesn't seem to make a dent anywhere it doesn't seem to like impact the culture at large it doesn't seem to like get any kind of foothold and i was listening to another one of these stupid podcasts and and hey that's our industry right not like this good that was a qualifier stupid i was listening to one another npr podcast oh okay that makes me just very stupid um and they were saying that uh the david weiss investigation into hunter biden course, because the attorney general who foiled the investigation is now the special counsel for the investigation.
Starting point is 01:15:50 They were saying that David Weiss would be unlikely to use any of the information dug up by Congress because it would be irrelevant to his case. How is that possibly irrelevant that the president and his son took like 10 million dollar bribe and it's traceable because they're nice guys hey because he's got hairy legs he's got hairy legs and kids love mansion in malibu yeah i i the thing that frustrated one of the things that frustrated me the most during the trump presidency was you know when he got elected or shortly before he got elected he found out or we all found out that obama's fbi had been spying on him explicitly to try to make sure that he could get basically what they're doing now to prosecute him so he couldn't run and he'd be in prison and um so we knew that now he's in office then while he's in office they
Starting point is 01:16:35 do the steel dossier they do all the the so-called pp story the golden shower story they do all this stuff to not just discredit him but to try to now try him essentially for treason and to impeach him for that. And I thought, here it comes. This man's been talking about smashing the deep state. I've been advocating for the abolition of the FBI for quite some time. It's going to happen. And then he would sign off on omnibus bill after omnibus bill that gave them even more funding than they had gotten previously. And then you would hear like, you know, when something would happen, like the chaos that was happening during some of the riots and he would call for like federalizing the police response
Starting point is 01:17:08 and it was like you're not getting it like it's not they're not just against you this system is a bad system that needs to be smashed you said you were going to do it you were elected at least in part you were elected because you weren't hillary clinton but you were elected at least in part because you said you were going to smash the system. When's the, I feel like I'm that meme where I'm poking with a stick and saying, you know, come on, do the system smashing. And I, I, I, yeah, yeah. Just please come on, you know, smash the system. And even now he's not calling for, for ending the FBI. Let's talk about this story. We have this from the Post Millennial. We have a lot of Post Millennial tonight, huh? Former Ukrainian prosecutor, Victor shokin confirms he was
Starting point is 01:17:45 fired after joe biden demanded it now uh a couple years ago there was a sworn affidavit from victor shokin where he attest to just this but now we have him giving a a public statement on this where he spoke to fox news and he outright said uh yeah so that's your story libby why don't you tell us what happened yeah so basically victor shokin went on with Brett Baer and he confirmed that he was told when he got fired that it was Joe Biden's wish that he be fired. Let's slow down real quick. There may be a lot of people who have no idea who this guy is. Do you want me to do like a whole thing? Yeah, I think I'll just give you the general the general gist and then you can take it away. I'll give it a shot. Yeah. Joe Biden flew to Ukraine, said I will illegally withhold aid and say illegally said I will withhold aid a billion dollars unless you fire a prosecutor.
Starting point is 01:18:30 This is the the crux of the whole argument, either against Trump demanding his impeachment or against Joe Biden for being corrupt. Victor Shokin is the guy who got fired. He is saying he got fired because Joe Biden demanded it. And Joe Biden likely took bribes. Anyway. Yeah. So I was going to look up the story, but I'm just going to go from memory because my Google isn't working. Because you wrote it. You definitely remember all the details. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:52 So basically, Victor Shokin was a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma. He was investigating Burisma because he was concerned that they were doing illegal energy deals. And who is Burisma? Burisma is a Ukrainian energy company on whose board Hunter Biden sat. He was getting $83,000 a month. His business partner, Devin Archer, was also on the board. They were getting this money. They don't have any expertise in energy. Burisma was interested in entering the U.S. market. They were under
Starting point is 01:19:22 investigation in Ukraine, which makes it tough to enter a U.S. market at that point because you're already looked at as kind of shady. So basically what happened was the CEO of Burisma signed on Hunter Biden and Devin Archer to help them with the U.S. market slash get influence through then VP Joe Biden. So Joe Biden knew the Burisma guys. There were meetings with, you know, he met them.
Starting point is 01:19:50 He ended up on phone calls with them at these meetings. Victor Shokin was the prosecutor tasked with investigating that. Joe Biden was the White House. He was the guy for the White House overseeing Ukraine during the Obama administration. So there had been a billion dollars in loan guarantees that were approved for Ukraine. Joe Biden was meant to go to Ukraine, deliver the loan guarantees.
Starting point is 01:20:17 He said, I'm going to withhold this money unless you fire Shokin. He said this to Petro Poroshenko, who was Zelensky's predecessor. So he said this, Poroshenko was like, okay, Shokin is totally fired now and we'll take the money. Joe Biden then went on a panel,
Starting point is 01:20:39 it was televised, and he bragged about this. He told this story just as eloquently as he told that corn pop leg hair story. He went on about it. He said he'sgged about this. He told this story just as eloquently as he told that popcorn pop leg hair story. He went on about it. He said he's not hiding anything. No, he was very proud of what he had done, claiming that Shoken was corrupt and that they got their own guy in there. So, OK, that is a thing that happened.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Then Donald Trump in July 2019e biden had announced her presidency in april of that year donald trump makes a phone call to then you know president zelensky who had replaced poroshenko and he says uh hey we've got this money coming for you i think it was 391 million dollars way less than a billion by the way uh we have this money coming for you uh congress has approved it that's cool but also i'm interested to know uh what impact joe biden had on the firing of victor shokin um was he involved you know let's sort of hash that out uh that phone call was recorded it was leaked the transcript of that was leaked and then in um that you know the the media had a field day with it donald trump is withholding funds from ukraine unless they investigate joe
Starting point is 01:21:51 biden so then congress brings him up on impeachment charges claiming that he had withheld funds for his own personal gain that he had uh committed election interference by asking Ukraine to publicly investigate Joe Biden over the firing of Shokin, which Biden had already said he'd done. They accused him and impeached him of election interference months and months and months before the election. So they said, okay, Trump, you're impeached because you asked for an investigation into biden
Starting point is 01:22:26 for something that he publicly said that he did and you wanted more details now he's being prosecuted for all of this stuff um and that's not being considered election interference i was going to say if only he had ordered uh prosecutors to prosecute joe biden right and have the the trial date start right before super tuesday then it would not be election interference so that's what they that's what they impeached him over and if you read the impeachment documents which i did yesterday it's very detailed about how uh trump was wrong to launch an investigation into a political opponent during an election year yeah well i mean come on to be fair i don't think you guys have actually read any of the laws that they're using to to go after trump on for the you know when they impeached him it clearly states that in uh in the instance
Starting point is 01:23:15 that the accused is republican the full force of the law shall be you know levied against this individual however if said uh accused as democrat then just forget about it's been a drug that's actually in the law it's okay when we do it progressives 36 16 or whatever all of exactly all of this and more at tim cashew which is going to be launching later this year yes yes exactly i am a doctor yes and we declared it publicly tonight i never said the universe that was actually something i should say a long time ago. I would be happy to accredit the university for you. I'm willing this into existence. I have a PhD from the university, so I could accredit it. I think we just made the board.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Oh, I would make the point to people. Circular accreditation. Right. You get accredited from the university and then found it so that it, I like it. Correct. I like this. To explain to people, I've been explaining to people credentials for a long time. So, you know, I'd be talking to these, like, I don't have friends. Everyone's like, you have to go to college if you explaining to people credentials and for a long time. So, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:05 I'd be talking to these, like, I don't have friends. Everyone's like, you have to go to college if you want to get a good job. I want to go, please. And then I'd be like, well, I have a master's.
Starting point is 01:24:11 And they'd be like, you have a master's? I'm like, yeah, in nuclear engineering. They're like, what? Do you really? And I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, from Milton U.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And they'd be like, what? And I'm like, that's right. Yeah, I made it up. It's not an accredited school or anything, but I gave it to myself. I used to want to make up college sweatshirts and be like no this is where i went to school
Starting point is 01:24:27 just like i want to wear this okay i'll make you some some some some uh body at some organization determines that you are worthy and gives you a title i can give myself whatever title i want that's like with jordan peterson being uh re-educated re-educated by the ontario college of physicians because he made some incendiary social media posts. The people who complained about Jordan Peterson and got him investigated and subject to re-education, they were not his clients. They were not his students.
Starting point is 01:24:54 They were not his patients or whatever. They were people who saw his posts on the internet. And didn't like them. And didn't like them. That's pretty serious. That's pretty serious. Who precisely is supposed to re-educate him? The Ontario College of Physicians.
Starting point is 01:25:07 In fact, there are people that they have said will be the ones doing the re-education. Jordan Peterson will be paying for it. And those specialists, those experts, those credentialed people cost $225 an hour. Prager, you should give out PhDs. What if it doesn't work? Jordan Peterson has said that he's going to put it all on YouTube. Well, that's good. Oh, like live stream it?
Starting point is 01:25:27 Yeah. Then it can help offset the cost that he has to cover, which I'm sure they're like... He'll make much more than $2.25 an hour It'll be great. Well, they're going to make
Starting point is 01:25:34 it a minimum of like, what, 48 hours? Like, yeah. He had a fashion moment. Well, and the credentialed experts are the ones who get to decide how long the training will go. So if they feel it's not working,
Starting point is 01:25:44 they can extend it. Exactly, that they are getting paid to do. And it will be streamed on YouTube. So they've given him, essentially, they've given him a almost unlimited fine. Yeah. Or a fine with no upper limit. It's either that or they take his license. And it goes until he admits, I agree with what you think.
Starting point is 01:26:04 You know what? Because he believes in it goes until he admits, I agree with what you think. You know what? Because he believes in credentialism. Second one. I agree. Yeah. Like, as soon as they say it, be like, you're right. Absolutely. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Great to see you. We don't think you do agree. He's like, no, no, I do. I totally agree. I definitely agree. He would never do that. Say something else. I agree.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I don't think he'd ever do that. I don't think so either. Jordan Peterson's going to be like, screw off, you dang Marxists. But it would be funny if he's like, no, I see your point. If you weren't just so bloody minded. He's going to argue with them. Yeah, for sure. He's going to have a field day, basically.
Starting point is 01:26:31 He's going to wear a weird suit. What if he changes their mind? Ooh. Live. What if he undereducates? I don't know. What if he actually underminds them? Undereducates them, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Have you guys heard about the FBI agents who were tasked with monitoring right-wing message boards started right wing i totally believe it yeah they're like they're seeing all these posts and then they're going like wait a minute i got told this stuff was wrong and i wasn't supposed to talk about it but when i read through it they're making some good oh good points over here my goal is to get my nsa mind for there to be churn in the nsa because they keep having to assign new people to me because they go, oh no, oh, he's right. Crap. He's right. And then they have to quit or whatever. Maybe they'll just, you know, smash the machine. What happens is, is like the, uh, the NSA is, uh, they know that
Starting point is 01:27:17 the assignment to spike is like a three month rotation. And so they tell, they tell the agent, like, it's a three month rotation just so you know, like what's three like, what? Just three months? Like, typically, we do two years. Like, just trust us. And then after, like, two and a half months, the guy's sitting there. And he's, like, shaking. He's got a cigarette. And he's going back and forth. Like, he's right about everything, man.
Starting point is 01:27:33 He's right about everything. And they're like, all right, time to get him out of there. They all have to go, like, to mandatory meetings with the psychologist afterwards. He's like, no, no. He's not a doctor. You can't believe him. They have to put him through the re-education program. Yeah, they have to put him through. These peopleeducation program yeah they have to put him through jordan that's these people are good that are going to be doing jordan
Starting point is 01:27:47 peterson they're the ones i have to deprogram the my nsa minders into like re-believing they have to re-blue pill them i always thought that was weird about like phds like you have to go defend your thesis but what if i don't respect anyone who's on the panel what if i don't like any of their thesis i'm questioning your authority yeah i't understand. I've always found it weird, the credentialism and the people insisting that they're a doctor and so forth. Because I was proud to tell people I barely made it out of high school.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Like I didn't go to college and I had multiple successful businesses and a great life. My wife's like super hot and everything. And I'm like, why would I? I like being able to say like, I got this despite the fact that the schooling system
Starting point is 01:28:25 tried to keep me down. Hard work is hard. That's why it's called hard work. Right. And often hard work, and it's possible, I should say this, hard work isn't always hard.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Sometimes it's tedious. Yes. Time consuming. But I think it's a class thing, right? Well, the issue is this. If you can work hard, you can make a lot of money. But if you want to party
Starting point is 01:28:45 take out loans and then get your degree and then say look i did a thing that's why they that it's i think college is the lazy route to be completely honest so if you look at somebody who gets out of high school or doesn't go to high school and they start working start a business even if the job is starbucks or mcdonald's and they work their up to becoming a manager. What is it like the CEO of UPS started in the sorting room or something like that? There's a bunch of stories like that. That's the perfect job to start in the mailroom. Started as an intern.
Starting point is 01:29:14 That's the hard way. You start working, you work hard, you get smart, and you try and figure out along the way when you become the best at it. For a lot of people, they are tricked into going to college. They're told it's the only way to do it. but i also know for a fact that a lot of these people go to college knowing that it's vacation they're going to get a big loan they're going to go party
Starting point is 01:29:32 every night they're going to barely do any work they're going to get a piece of paper that says i deserve a job then they're going to demand the government pay their loans back and that's what a lot of them are doing so why do they want these degrees and everything it's because they didn't actually earn any real authority but they're the experts now so they get to assert that yeah so i'll tell you this who it's you ever see that movie um with rodney dangerfield what is it called like back to school or something oh yeah yeah that's with robert downey jr and yeah yeah and there's like that scene where i haven't seen this in decades but there's a scene where he's in the classroom and the professor is explaining the basics of like marketing and like selling widgets.
Starting point is 01:30:06 And he's like, what are you talking about? That doesn't make any sense. And then everyone turns to him and starts taking notes from him because he's this ultra wealthy businessman. He knows how to sell widgets. Yeah. Who would you rather get advice from? A guy who built a high school dropout who built a record label or a university professor
Starting point is 01:30:22 is teaching people how to do music management. Yeah. And that's the problem with schools. Except TimCastU. That's true. Which is a respectable institution. What do you mean except? TimCastU is proudly minority owned from an underprivileged upbringing,
Starting point is 01:30:35 a mixed race person from an underprivileged upbringing, a high school dropout who built it from the ground up and will credential you if you ask. And the first PhD is a woman. That's so true. A pre-PhD. You're already credentialed from them.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Yeah. I think part of it is a lot of the university system, especially when you get to like the Ivy Leagues and more elite schools, it functions the way that when you're in middle school and there's a brand that everyone wears. And so if you have the brand. What was that brand when you were in middle school? I feel like it was Abercrombie & Fitch when i was growing up like that was the thing that was like you had the hollister abercrombie stuff then like you were cool right i did not uh i don't regret it now
Starting point is 01:31:13 no of course not don't be a pauper olivia no i'm just kidding but if i if i can look at you and say but i went to princeton i went to harvard right i get to say that I am elite in some way and therefore I deserve something that you guys don't have. That's what I find that I'll get into arguments about books or whatever with someone and they'll be like, well, my mom told me this about the book and she went to Princeton. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:31:38 That doesn't mean anything. Because they aren't trading on their brains or their actual accomplishment or intellectual ability. They're trading on the brand name of what they paid or realistically went to huge amounts of debt for. And to shatter that illusion is very hard for them. But shattering the illusion is, I think, a big part of what we're talking about, right?
Starting point is 01:31:55 Because I think that a lot of the people who are having trouble dealing with a society where credentials are actually not really that valid or who are looking at the whole situation with Trump and realizing perhaps that he is not actually guilty of all these things or looking at Biden and saying, oh, he is guilty of all of these things or seeing society crumble or all of the looting
Starting point is 01:32:16 or the stores closing down or all of this stuff. It's like, it's very difficult to let go of what you thought our country was and what you thought our culture was about. So you at it and you say why are people looting the stores you know and that's really not that's really not the right question at this point like things have changed so drastically and so many people just want to hang on to the idea the expectation of what they had for our culture in our country and it's very difficult to let that go. You know, I mean, you can grieve what that was,
Starting point is 01:32:46 but like we have to let it go to a certain extent. We're going to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.
Starting point is 01:32:56 And if you go to TimCast.com, you can see the TimCast Miami show. Ticket sales are now available. We hope to see you there. It's going to be really fun. We got a bunch of gifts to give away sponsored by Public Square. We're huge fans. Patrick, Matt, David, Donald Trump Jr., Matt Gaetz, hosted by me, and of course, Luke Rudkowski. It is going to be an
Starting point is 01:33:13 amazing night. And there may be some other stuff because the event is actually longer than just IRL. So we're hoping to do a Q&A audience only session. Should be really fun and funny. And even a pre-show. We're working those details out. We'll announce them shortly, but it's going to be a fun show. Let's grab your super chance. By the Fireside says, if Trump is in court Super Tuesday, his campaign should hold free Trump rallies in the battleground states and have as many social media pro-Trump figures as possible speak in his stead. Entirely possible. That's one thing to consider too. They want to shut him down on Super Tuesday, but he still has powerful, prominent media voices, personality surrogates, etc., who can go around rallying in campaign on his behalf. And the trial may actually hurt them in
Starting point is 01:33:54 this regard because it justifies a lot. It exemplifies a lot of what Trump has been saying. So if you get Trump Jr., if you get Dan Bongino out on the campaign trail, if they go out and they say, look what they are doing to this man, they are cheating. That that could be more powerful than Trump himself. Yeah, especially since then he could justify not being, you know, Super Tuesday. You want to be in 800 places at once, whereas he could send every member of his family, everyone who represents him and say, you know, he would be here. He would be in this spot, except that they're keeping him there. And it's like in 12 states. In 12 states.
Starting point is 01:34:26 He'd be in this one. It's like looking at, like if you have a bunch of kids and you're like, you're my favorite slash you're all my favorite. You know what I mean? They may have done him a favor with this. I think the thing that I,
Starting point is 01:34:35 I can't get over the fact that within, what, two hours the Trump campaign had those mugshot merch ready to go. Oh, we had it too at Post Millennial. We had T-shirts ready to go. I bought it too at post millennial we had so we had t-shirts ready to go i bought two of them but that's what i mean during the show we made the revenge poster and put a t-shirt up yeah and we sold it i saw that and you know what that morning i was like the mugshot we need to like talk about the mugshot and comparing it to the obama shepherd fairy and
Starting point is 01:34:58 then you did it and i was like nice yeah it was so funny and then but that's the thing this campaign has just embraced that this is happening right they're saying like it's so funny. And then, but that's the thing. This campaign has just embraced that this is happening, right? They're saying like, it's so ludicrous. We now fundraise off of it. So I think actually- Biden was fundraising off it. Yeah, everyone's going to fundraise off it. But I think Trump is the most successful.
Starting point is 01:35:16 And I really think being able to say like, I would be here in whatever state, except I can't. So I sent to you my sons or whoever. It's powerful. I think that this, in a way, breathed life into his campaign. Because I remember this time last year, people were talking about, maybe this isn't Trump's time anymore. Maybe it's DeSantis' turn. Look at all the stuff he's done. And I'm saying in Republican circles. I'm a libertarian. We were having a completely different conversation. But in Republican circles, they're saying,
Starting point is 01:35:42 look at the stuff he's done in Florida. Trump just wants to keep relitigating 2020 maybe he's not the guy like he was really better yeah and some of the polls were showing that that head-to-head desantis would do better against biden i would have told them that's because desantis is largely an unknown compared to trump and they always do better that way um but then with this it's like no trump's the candidate now which is why again i don't think they're looking at the politics of it i think they want to put him in prison i do too but that's i felt like after his cnn town hall where he was just like the most ridiculous and also best version of himself where he's like describing this case i brought against him he's like i own the hotel across the street you think i would have the cnn town hall yes exactly and you know i think to your point too
Starting point is 01:36:24 there was a moment where people really doubted it and that's why cnn was like it's fine we'll have this town hall and we'll destroy him and he is proving time and time again that he he is ready and willing to go into this very uh aggressive attack on him personally right we got this from x headshot x i have to wonder if the rnc and ronald mcdaniel is supporting the the DNC's effort to fix the Republican primary. I won't be surprised. Never Trumpers. They hate Trump.
Starting point is 01:36:51 That's why they're called never Trumpers. So I don't know how many how many Republicans in Georgia are against Trump. I mean, I'm unhappy with the RNC. I've voiced my frustrations about Larry Elder being kept from the debate stage. And I think that's indicative of the fact that they are controlling the narrative that they want on stage. And they don't actually want Trump there, despite Ronald McDonald's being like, it would be wrong for him to miss it. They only wanted the fact that he could bring in a large audience. They know that he will not comply with whatever they want, hence the loyalty pledge.
Starting point is 01:37:22 And they kept Larry Elder out, which means that there's a whole lot of conversation that would have been the loyalty pledge is pretty standard i mean they do that yeah but trump was never going to sign a loyalty pledge so they're saying you should be here except we were offering the stipulation that you know we know he proudly refused to do it in 2016 i remember it was funny because it was kind of a when when the thing happened with vivek when they asked uh you know know, would you, would you pardon Trump? I think that was the question. Yeah. And he immediately raised his hand.
Starting point is 01:37:48 All the way up. And DeSantis looked around and was like, yeah, me too. He didn't just look around, he was like. That look around was deadly. That was like worse than the Howard Dean thing
Starting point is 01:37:59 when he yopped. That was a thousand times. That was worse than when Dukakis got in the tank. It was worse than when Gary Johnson asked what Aleppo was like. It completely eliminated that. But it was a callback to kind of the opposite of that. When in this would have been in 2015 during the first, I think the first Republican debate, they said, you know, who here would not support is not willing to agree to support whoever
Starting point is 01:38:22 the Republican nominee is. And Donald Trump put up his hand proudly and no one else would do it. And I think those are the moments where you have this big field of candidates and one sets themselves apart. And again, I don't think if they are considering the political ramifications, they're idiots. I don't think they are. I think that they just want them in prison.
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Starting point is 01:38:58 Move to Martinsburg, West Virginia. We look forward to seeing you there. We are. I'll keep things a little light for now until we get things going, but I look forward to anybody who is looking to get away from their cities, is trying to find a place to live. Martinsburg, West Virginia is a good spot for people who love this country. And there's a lot of good people there, but it is, I'll put it this way, in West Virginia, Martinsburg has some interesting elements in it. And I think there's an opportunity for us to do really, really great things in this
Starting point is 01:39:31 town. And they could use help, they could use investment, and we are going to be investing in this area. We're not just in Martinsburg, but we're going to be setting up some stuff going on there. You can infer whatever you want with that. But I hope to see you down there. And if you live in Martinsburg, every day you can drive by ATF headquarters and flip them off. Is that where they are? That's true. No way.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Really? I did a machine gun shoot in Martinsburg last year. And afterwards, they're like, oh, by the way, the ATF headquarters is like right there. The ATF headquarters, I think, if I'm remembering this correctly, the one in Martinsburg has so many documents that the floor was collapsing. I could be misremembering the story. There was some crazy amount of documents that they were storing there
Starting point is 01:40:12 which of course I find sketchy for the ATF. Well, we got some projects in the works. Is it because Biden has an office there? Well, I feel safer when Joe Biden is around. He just, you know, he lets kids rub his legs and he falls off bicycles. He's got those hairy legs. If any,
Starting point is 01:40:26 if any black men are around, he threatens to, threatens to hang them with a chain. It's nauseating. All right, let's read more. Teddy D says, Tim sent up the salmon signal
Starting point is 01:40:34 and Spike showed up. Yes. Spike Cohen, 2024. Yes, but the, I'm, I, Are you announcing tonight? No, I'm not. I've become a,
Starting point is 01:40:42 a meme for my, my, I'll call it an addiction. I'm a former drug addict and now I'm a salmon addict. I can't not eat. I've already a meme for my, I'll call it an addiction. I'm a former drug addict and now I'm a salmon addict. I can't not eat. I've already eaten salmon twice today. It's twice today. Raw or cooked?
Starting point is 01:40:52 Actually, so I had a poke bowl this morning and then I had some smoked salmon right before I came here. So hot smoke. So both raw and cooked. When does your salmon oriented cookbook come out? Now. Right now? Yeah, right after. Can you uh yeah right now i'm actually
Starting point is 01:41:06 gonna have a class at timcast salmon preparation 101 we're hiring all in all seriousness uh are we going to ever figure out who the libertarians intend to as our primary is should people dm you on twitter about it oh they already are um so uh it, I think it's May 24th or 25th. It's the end of May is when we officially pick our nominee at the at the National Convention. Our system is like a primary or no, it's not our system works a little differently. Each state has a convention, each state affiliate has a convention where they pick their delegates, those delegates then go to the National Convention and pick it. So it's going to be about like, just under 600 people who ultimately will decide,
Starting point is 01:41:45 or a majority of right around 600 that will decide who the nominee is. I've not decided yet if I'm running. I haven't ruled it out. But ultimately, it's going to come down to how I can best help the party and the liberty movement. Well, I've heard mutterings about people who won't do it, people who might do it. And I got to say not promising we were really excited for dave smith dave just announced he wasn't running right and now everyone's kind of like well well come on like he's perfect he's great now it's who knows may's far away maybe you guys will have someone jump to the front you know you never know i mean it it's it is very early on you have to do it yeah it's think about how much much salmon you get so from when when i even when i was running for vp there were you know the sort of like slow
Starting point is 01:42:30 trickle of people are like you know you should run in 24 you should run in 24 on the top of the ticket and that slow trickle has kind of grown steadily over time and then when dave announced he wasn't running it's now they're like now it's like a fire hose on me so we'll see i haven't ruled it out but i it's it's nothing i it's nothing I've particularly had a goal to do. It looks like a lot of people will take it on almost like an ego stroke, and that ends up being a poison chalice when they do it. If I do it, it's because I think it's the best way
Starting point is 01:42:56 I can serve the movement. Well, there is a thing. You remember George Washington didn't necessarily want to be president, but he was pushed into power because the people demanded that he lead. So if the people demand that you lead, then that's
Starting point is 01:43:09 the reason. It's not to seek your own power. I'm sure you've heard about George Washington. Or you have a couple months to find someone else and say, no, that guy. You know, I could do that. That's the thing to do if you don't want to do it. Driving around like, please, come on. Alright, the Appalachian podcast says, Spike, say Appalachia.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Appalachia. P.S. Tim, love what you guys are doing for the Appalachian region. Keep it up. Yeah, I love it out here. It's the best weather. We didn't have winter this past year, though, so it was kind of a letdown. Because we got a big field we wanted to snowboard in because it's a very light hill. And then no snow.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Not even a little bit. And I was like, I was going to snowboard. Oh,'s it's like it's a very light hill and then no snow yeah not even a little bit i was like i was gonna snowboard oh that's a that's a bummer but whatever we got grapes everywhere now those are some people you should consider having on simon and billy of appalachian podcast some of the coolest people i've ever met i was on their show we went to simon's place shot off machine guns those would be good people to have on yeah right on sounds fun absolutely and with me telling everybody to come to Martinsburg, West Virginia, it's also Jefferson and Berkeley County. You know, good places to go. I love Morgan County, too. I mean, the whole Eastern Panhandle is a really interesting place.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Where's Morgan? It's further west? Morgan is like, if there are three counties that make up the Eastern Panhandle, it's the farthest west. Is that where Berkeley Springs is? It's where Berkeley Springs is. Oh, okay, all right. Yeah, everyone loves that place. Yeah, it's super cool. I mean, it's the oldest, like, spa town in the country or something like that. It's so cute. It's super cute uh i would also say if you guys are interested in this music that oliver anthony put out there's a song called appalachia by a guy named
Starting point is 01:44:31 josiah and the bonnevilles and it gives you all the vibes about wanting to move to appalachia right away so and uh look up the history of the song uh was it country roads not about west virginia no the word just comes up once so uh I read about it and it was inspired by Montgomery County, Maryland, but that doesn't roll off the tongue very well. So they went and looked up in an encyclopedia, West Virginia stuff, and then wrote a song about West Virginia instead. Am I wrong in thinking that Montgomery is one of the three counties in Western Maryland that was like, please let us join West Virginia?
Starting point is 01:45:00 That would be so cool. And they're like, yeah, we would love to have you. You have to ask Baltimore. And now we've heard nothing about it. Also, the county that Winchester, Virginia is in, which just sits right below the panhandle, so sort of if you drive south from Martinsburg, in their county charter,
Starting point is 01:45:14 a West Virginia state senator told me this, it has a clause where at any point they are allowed to secede into West Virginia because of the way it was divided. Winchester? It's the county that Winchester is in. That's in Virginia? They can unilaterally do that without any
Starting point is 01:45:28 legislator approval. That's what a West Virginia state senator told me that this is a, you know, for when they were dividing up the state, they were like, okay, we're not going right now, but we may want to eventually. Wow. Interesting. Because West Virginia came in as a slave state, but then it was only a slave state for like 16 months or something like that, right?
Starting point is 01:45:44 West Virginia? Didn't it? I think it was the opposite. I think West Virginia sustained the union in Virginia. But wasn't there slavery in West Virginia? I think they stayed
Starting point is 01:45:52 with the union, but they were still a slave state. Maryland was a slave state. Same thing with Delaware. So that's what it was. So West Virginia was a slave state for like a little bit.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Being a union didn't mean anything. Yeah, the Emancipation Proclamation was explicitly written for the states that were segregated. So even after the Civil War ended, you know, we talk about how Juneteenth happened, you know, months after or a year after. In Texas, two years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:10 In Delaware, it didn't end until like 1870 or 1871. It meant multiple, like what, six years after the war ended. Wow. But we don't celebrate that anniversary. All right. Let's read some more. Lord Joseph Cole says, Tim, took your advice, moved out of the city. We are in a bind.
Starting point is 01:46:25 Please help us if you can. Give, send, go the Col's family to get our power back on oh yikes man well i hope everything works out for you guys no one ever said escaping and being and living is is uh being on your own is going to be easy and that's what i was thinking about with that video with the woman's like i can't afford to live this way part of me was like man well maybe you should just vote for politicians who are actually going to help make your life better pay attention what's going on in the world i don't you know it's it's i'm sad to hear this woman uh upset in this way but part of me also said like what would this woman be doing if it was 200 years ago ain't nobody 200 years ago was driving in their car being like i can't afford to live it's like dude you couldn't make it 10 miles without
Starting point is 01:47:02 potentially dying okay i'm exaggerating 200 years ago she was a single mom now if if 200 years ago she was married and then got divorced and became a single she like she wouldn't have been divorced right so she still would be married or she would have been totally outcast for having children out of wedlock 200 years ago none of that would happen and let's be honest like the risks to your life back then were substantial she may have died in childbirth right i mean well and and also if the reason that she's a single mother is because the father abandoned her and the kids uh no community 200 years ago would have tolerated puts up with a guy like yeah they would that guy would have been an outcast yeah he'd have to run west and go be a bandito or something and then the community would help that
Starting point is 01:47:41 help that the community would rally around that woman, exactly. Right. But we're in a nasty place where you have all these luxuries, but no family. It's disgusting. It is very bizarre. I keep thinking of that Jane's Addiction song, Three Days, when he says, we choose no kin but adopted strangers. Oh, interesting. That's a good line. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:02 All right. Let's grab some more super chats. Where are we at? Steve Hagen says, it looks like the step on snack and find out means find out not much happens. Please keep stepping on snack. Wamp.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Well, I guess, unfortunately, so. I feel like the step on, sorry, yeah. Oh, the don't tread on me flag's been on for a really, really long time, and he's been trampled. That poor little snake is long dead. I just wonder how many lockdowns were enforced and officers would show up with the thin blue line variant of the Don't Tread on Me flag as they actively tread on people who were committing crimes like going to church and meeting their loved ones.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Or in Quebec, like police would show up if there were more than five people in your house. Insanity. And they would drag people out. It was terrifying. In Kentucky, they arrested a pastor and his congregation for having church in the parking lot in their own cars. Like they were even doing the whole, we don't know how serious this is. Don't touch each other.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Don't get near each other. But we get to worship God together because we have the First Amendment. God in proximity to one another. We're going to stay outside. We're going to be in our own cars or i think their windows were even up and they were still arrested do you remember the uh congregation that held church in walmart in pittsburgh oh yeah yeah no but that's beautiful wow that's let's grab another super chat here what is this the emperor champion says we should be a little
Starting point is 01:49:22 bit more warhammer 40k and a whole lot less My Little Pony. Come on, grow a pair and at least impeach Joe Biden. Yes. That would be so nice. Warhammer, not My Little Pony. Got it. Are ponies still a thing?
Starting point is 01:49:34 Where like weird adult men liked My Little Pony? Probably. Do you guys remember that for a second? It was horrifying. Maybe they're now just pups in the pride parade. I was going to say, I think a lot of bronies may have moved on to being furries or something. Gross. I bet they have leg hair.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Just Peachy says, we need to educate folks on how to write in Trump's name if he's taken off the ballot. Some folks don't know they can. If they take his name off the ballot, I don't know if... In South Carolina, you can't write in for president. Really? No. Why? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:05 It's whatever our rules are. I went there in 2016. I showed up with some crayons, and they told me that not only could I not use the crayons, and not only could I not use a pen, it was a digital thing. I was going to do a protest, and they're like, well, not only can you not do that, it's digital, but you can't write in a name anyway. have to pick from the names in new york you can write in and it's still a paper ballot new york yeah they didn't they didn't give that option on the day of that was 2016 though that's rude i thought so just revenant says the police and
Starting point is 01:50:37 government will simply make up reasons take your rights and put you in prison it happened to me and i'm joe schmoe that's right disorder, for instance. What does that even mean? You can be walking down the street whistling a tune and they'll say, hey, you're disturbing the peace and you're under arrest. In in South Carolina, a friend of mine named Johnny McCoy, who's an attorney, he actually got after he was arrested for it. There was a law on the books. I forget what it was called but basically it was so uh it was so like vaguely defined that uh it got struck down because when he asked why his friend was being arrested for uh he was asking what his friend was being arrested for and they arrested him for that oh wow what yeah and it was something like like interfering with police duties or something like
Starting point is 01:51:19 that and he literally was saying hey what what are you doing i'm an attorney what are you what's he being arrested for and they arrested him for that. Of course, they'll just make up a reason. Yep. You protest? Disorderly conduct. You say it's first amendment? No, you're being disorderly.
Starting point is 01:51:31 It's hard not to think of Jenna Ellis who's like arrested for being Trump's lawyer. Yeah, that's scary. This guy being a lawyer, doing something completely normal and they're like, no. No, no lawyers. Straight to jail. So they say that it's a criminal conspiracy
Starting point is 01:51:42 and they're using the RICO Act. Are they basically alleging that the campaign was a criminal organization? That's right. But Joe Biden's is fine. And not a single Republican prosecutor, DA, ADA, AG or whatever, anywhere has done anything to go after Democrats in any comparable way. I find that to be absolutely horrifying. Well, you have Ken Paxton and then they're taking him out in Texas. He's the Attorney General.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Well, how about he start filing charges? Here's one thing I'd say. He ought to. Right now, if they make any... I think Texas should file a lawsuit against Georgia right now to the Supreme Court, citing original jurisdiction, saying that the federal elections of 2024 are held between all states and Georgia is removing a candidate from an election that Texas has to participate in. That's a very good point.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Texas should sue and say they cannot interfere in the election because they are negating our votes. Let's go. Let's roll. Come on. Where are we at? Anybody? They could also they could also a bunch of novel concepts. How about this? Well, didn't we have that in the last election? Were there some states suing other states? And then it got Texas, Texas sued, I think,
Starting point is 01:52:54 Pennsylvania. Yeah. And it was a whole 48 states versus 48 states. That's right. And then the Supreme Court's like, no, we're not going to hear it. We don't care. The argument was that there were state legislatures telling Mike Pence, telling Trump, we did not approve these changes to the election. The Constitution says the state legislature has final say. So we want the chance to adjudicate this and or to legislate this. And Mike Pence was like, no. And that was it and so a lot lawsuits uh this was before that the lawsuit went out saying like texas said we participate in this election and what these what pennsylvania has done is not constitutional so it is voiding our participation and we demand this be heard
Starting point is 01:53:39 and the supreme court said nah not interested and then you ended up with states asking mike pence to intervene because of the unilateral changes that were made in violation of the Constitution. And he was like, are you crazy? They showed me a picture of JFK. And then he ran away screaming and crying like a little baby. Well, because JFK, they had the alternate electors in Hawaii with Nixon. And Nixon rejected the certified electors. That's right.
Starting point is 01:54:02 How about that? And that's what the forgery is. When they're prosecuting for forgery in Georgia, the forgery is signing off on alternate slates of electors. Just like the Democrats did in 1960. Yes, just like them. How about that?
Starting point is 01:54:15 And then in 1961, when they were counting the votes, Richard Nixon says, we've got the certified Republican votes, but everyone agree which to the Democrats instead? All right, Democrats instead. And that was it.
Starting point is 01:54:26 But it's not even that. It was that they were asking Mike Pence to return the votes and not reject them out. It wasn't that they were being rejected. It would go back to the states. The states would figure it out. But it would still trigger the House delegations electing the president. And Mike Pence is...
Starting point is 01:54:41 He's like a listless vessel. He's kind of like an and he's an npc you know he is i was gonna say he's like a very strong npc like he has he has this new line that he'll say that uh you know i'm very proud of the the work i did with president trump it did not end well and it's like it's in his book he'll say it in interviews he said it probably like 300 times now and he'll say it every time thinking it's going to land just as hard as the first time he didn't it's like he doesn't have original thoughts he's such a scripted political figure that like he's he's just reciting things he's not thinking he's fearful right like he wants to stay in the good graces of whatever establishment he thinks will protect him if anything happens he's
Starting point is 01:55:23 not willing to take any risks like when vivek throws his hand in the air i was like yeah i would pardon trump there's a boldness there that i just think mike pence doesn't have let's read some more chris s says nuke the whales all right nelson uh appreciate it simpsons reference all right summer andre says don't forget the two republican council members killed in New Jersey. Oh, man. That's right. Yeah. Wow. And then it's funny when, you know, I just when I talk to people about a fear of civil war or the state of civil strife, I hear the exact same thing. There's not enough people to engage in this. And it's just like every time I'm like, how many people do you think like wanted civil war?
Starting point is 01:56:10 How many people do you think were actually fighting in the american revolution very very few it's between three and ten percent you know the really fighting in the revolution and what what like the general sentiment from historians is that the public was split on the revolution yeah whether it was a good idea or not yeah there's that famous quote where i'm not sure who said it they said john adams something that it was 30 percent want it 30 don't 30 don't care that's not true it was more so that um i read a historical assessment that said something like it was like 35 percent support something like 23 opposed and the rest were like don't know don't care so they're like it wasn't the majority but the plurality were just like we have no idea what's going on we don't we don't want to know and imagine having the government so little involved in your life that you don't care who's
Starting point is 01:56:52 in charge of it yeah like how great is that how awesome is that that forget you don't care who gets elected you don't even care like who's in charge of the gut like what the government even is because it's it's so not involved in your day-to-day life, you don't even care about that. Here's a crazy one. Undermine says a single fuel pellet smaller than an inch contains more energy than a ton of coal or 150 gallons of oil.
Starting point is 01:57:16 I'm assuming you're talking about fusion. It's going to be bonkers. If they can really get fusion going and imagine if they can even miniaturize it and make smaller reactors. And plus we got solid state batteries. Wow.
Starting point is 01:57:30 It's going to be nuts. Yeah, I'm curious how they do propulsion without chemical energy. Like I'm interested to see the- Oh, that's interesting. Well, so escaping orbit, achieving orbit. There's a bunch of different ways that's been proposed. There's one we use.
Starting point is 01:57:48 We use chemical fuels, liquid solid propulsion for a rocket. One of the proposed ways is a magnetic slingshot rail gun. It's a big machine, basically, that takes the cargo load and spins it at a high rate of speed until it's spinning as fast as possible and then it flings it up a tube and just launches it straight into space that's wild yep and once you have propulsion from hydrogen fusion once you have that now you not only can you have much further and faster space travel but you can have the kind of stuff you see in the sci-fi movies where it's like gravity is being simulated because it will continue to accelerate at, what, 9.8 meters per second or whatever. So that it simulates gravity by going in that direction and then turning around and doing the opposite to slow down.
Starting point is 01:58:38 That's right. And so not only will you be able to get to Mars in a matter of hours instead of weeks. Now you won't even have to deal with the effects on your bones and muscles of not having gravity during that time. We're like that close to this kind of stuff. That's so cool. That's the funny thing that people in sci-fi movies, they'll show the ship and then there'll be a big ring spinning
Starting point is 01:58:58 and they'll be like, that's how we simulate gravity. No. The ship is speeding up until it reaches halfway point and then turns around yep so uh i love it because flat earthers think that's what earth is doing they think earth is permanently accelerating forward and so that pins you to the ground as gravity is weird yep and they also think there's a dome over our flat planet and there's an ice wall and a whole bunch of other crazy the firm The firmament, yeah. It's the firmament. This is not a pro-flat earth show.
Starting point is 01:59:25 I was told, okay. I was on a plane and this guy like signaled to me suddenly engaging in conversation and turned out he was a full-on flat earther. And I was like, I don't, we're on the plane right now. I pretended to be a flat earther just for meme purposes from like 2015 to 2018 until my wife came into a room one time and I was literally making a flat earth meme
Starting point is 01:59:44 in a Facebook flat earth group. And she said, please stop. She's like, our loved ones are worried. I keep assuring them this is just a big joke. They're saying, how could you do this for three? I said, okay, fine, I'll drop the flat earth. All right, everybody. Three years is commitment.
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