Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #851 Tucker Carlson Says Democrats Will Start WW3 With Russia To STOP TRUMP w/Joshua Smith

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Kellen join Joshua Smith to discuss the idea of Democrats starting WW3 as a way to stop Trump from winning 2024, Tucker Carlson saying Obama did crack, Trump says he has "no choice" ...and will lock people up if elected, and a shocking video showing Mitch McConnell freezing at a press conference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 tucker carlson appeared on the uh on adam kroll's podcast and he warned the democrats will do anything to stop trump but they're not going to do lockdowns they're not going to do covet in fact he says they're going to start war with russia in an effort to defeat trump and that makes sense when presidents are facing war they tend to receive substantial support but i'm not i'm not entirely convinced we'll see the way joe biden screwed up af, but I'm not I'm not entirely convinced. We'll see the way Joe Biden screwed up Afghanistan. I'm not sure people really trust his foreign policy. And if they do start a war, Donald Trump will promise to end it diplomatically. And that may actually work with the American public.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Tucker Carlson also said that Barack Obama is gay, likes having adult relations with males and smokes crack in that same interview. I guess we'll talk about that and uh as a bunch of other stories too we got uh secretaries of state are ramping up the effort to remove trump from the ballot so things should get pretty wild of course now we've got uh the left is claiming the maui fires were caused by white people i know i it's hard to say, but it's time everyone admits it. Colonialism? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:01:09 That's what they're saying. They're saying white coloners destroyed Hawaii. Whatever, we'll talk about that, too. My friends, before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Click Join Us. Become a member to support the show over at TimCast.com. You'll get access to the members-only uncensored show Monday through Thursday at 10 p.m. where you as a member can call into the show
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Starting point is 00:03:34 it wherever if you really do like what we do joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is joshua smith hey thanks so much for having me tim i appreciate it who are you i'm a candidate for president of the united states of America for the Libertarian Party. Some are calling me the preeminent candidate. I've been an at-large and vice chair on the Libertarian National Committee since 2018 in one form or another. Came from the Ron Paul Revolution in 2008, worked on his campaign, and then he, of course, endorsed me famously in 2020 for chair of the Libertarian National Committee. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:02 That's where I'm at. It was the pinnacle of my life next to my children. Are you going to have Michael Malice be your press secretary? I have said that I will force him by court order if need be. So, yeah, absolutely. Because Dave's not going to do it. So, you know, whoever does has to get Michael Malice to be the press secretary. Absolutely. It has to happen.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I agree. I agree. There's nobody better for it. Absolutely. Right on, man. Well, it should be a lot of fun. Thanks for hanging out. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Phil's back. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Levante, leadante lead singer of all that remains anti-communist encounter revolutionary extraordinary it looks like you put on a hell of a show last weekend you know i uh i did i i had a little bit of an event my friend's band called me up the band's called five finger death punch ivan their singer was uh ill and so they called me and asked me if I could fill in for him. They were opening for a small band called Metallica. And it was sick. Dude, it was in the round.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You guys shot in that huge stadium. 80,000 people? More than Taylor Swift, yeah. I mean, it's Metallica. Obviously. The biggest metal band of all time. And you got to open. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Whipping your body around like a rubber hose, dude. I mean, it was super, like, it's super cool that, like, I am able to help out my friends. Like, the guys in Five Finger Death Punch, I've been friends with those guys for years and years. I've known Ivan since he was in Mode Grader in 2004. We did some touring. So I've known those guys for ages. So it's super cool that, like, I can go ahead and step in and help them out and make sure that the show goes on because, you know, it was a record-breaking show.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It was a big deal. Like they made history. It was the biggest show that ever happened at the place. And I got to come in and I look like this, you know, like the guy that comes in to save the day. So if they haven't seen it, there's clips on your Twitter and on Instagram. It is wild, man. There will be a bigger video coming because Five Finger had pro footage and stuff,
Starting point is 00:05:46 so we're getting that. Wow. Great to meet you, Josh. I'm looking forward to talking about politics tonight. Yeah, absolutely. I want to echo the TimCast IRL event in Miami, which I'll be at. We'll be on stage.
Starting point is 00:05:56 We had so much fun in Austin last time talking to people after the show, too. I got a chance to stick around and meet people. If you guys ever want to get out to one of these shows, this Miami show is going to be lit. Come on down man and miami's already lit it is and we are we are planning an elite members only uh get together so that's for the elite members at timcast.com there's no vip tickets but it's basically if you're a timcast member at 100 bucks or more you're in the elite criteria which is access to like early release stuff internals
Starting point is 00:06:24 like we just tell you what's going on we do uh we give people access to like early release stuff internals like we just tell you what's going on we do uh we give people access to like the app before it comes out we're probably going to be releasing the code for the video game to our elite members to just do whatever they want with and so it's kind of just like a club but we're going to have a special event for our elite members i think the best place to get tickets is at tincast.com up at the top there's a banner and i don't know if there's another direct link but that's how you get it so hit it right on we got kellen pressing the buttons yes i'm back uh my name is kellen and yeah dude october miami in october what i feel like that's one of the best times to be there so it should be a lot of fun buy your tickets come down see ian on the beach
Starting point is 00:06:56 you know that's where he'll be it's gonna be fun shirtless all right let's jump into the news tucker carlson predicts hot war with Russia to defeat Trump in election. He was speaking to Adam Carolla and he said they will do anything to win. So how do they do that? They're not going to do COVID again. Whoever on the right is afraid they're going to do COVID and mask mandates. They're not going to do that. Carlson told Adam Carolla they can't do that. They've already been exposed. That won't work. There's going to be no. What are they going to do? They're going. There's going to be, no, what are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:07:25 They're going to go to war with Russia. It's what they're going to do. There will be a hot war between the United States and Russia in the next year. Yikes. That's strong words coming from Tucker. And it is a contrast to what we've talked about, what many have said, because we are seeing mask mandates come back. Yes. However, he may be right
Starting point is 00:07:45 the covet game is played i think i agree with them there that it's just it's going to be with us forever now it's going to be mutating and it's you're going to have lesser dangerous strains lesser painful ones and then every once in a while one will mutate that's like kind of hard but there will be like oh but it's like the flu and that's not the question the question is will they try to use it for political reasons the thing tucker he when i watched him interview donald trump last week i don't know if you guys saw the interview at the very end he's like so do you think there's going to be civil unrest and he's doing that sullivan nod where he's nodding and i'm like geez what is he trying to incite like and trump is just like i don't i don't want to even answer that like you can tell and tucker's
Starting point is 00:08:21 like civil unrest and he's nodding like i don't don't just, I, why is he, I don't know why he said that. I don't know why that we're going to war with Russia. I don't know why he said that. Well, for one, the fact that there's a war in Ukraine and we're funding it. And we're at war with Russia already. It's not formalized. So he thinks there's, I mean, let me, let me, let me, let me help you out. Let me clarify.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Let me, let me, let me, let me help you out. I'll clarify for Tucker Carlson. They're not going to war with Russia. Let me clarify. They don't want war with Russia. They want a proxy. Let me help you out. I'll clarify for Tucker Carlson. They're not going to war with Russia. He's wrong. What he should have said is they're going to formally announce we have been at war with Russia and try and act like it's just begun. I'm concerned about total war. I can understand the proxy war. Like Vietnam, we fought the communists in Vietnam.
Starting point is 00:09:00 We didn't want to bomb Moscow because we didn't want Washington to get wiped off the map. And if we go to war with Russia, we're going to annihilate our each of our capital and then china will take over the world like what or india and china will take it over slow down there we're at war with russia right now it we already are and so what do you guys think will happen uh in the election cycle well they're definitely going to bring the the covid's coming back i mean i i don't know i mean I already see people talking about mass mandates at school, at schools. They're definitely going to start. Joe Biden's talking about a new vaccine.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yes. Funded a whole new one that's going to work this time, he says. And yeah, weird thing to say. And it's inappropriate. Mind you. Yeah. Yes. Inappropriate for Joe Biden to say that.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I mean, it actually is. I don't think Joe Biden cares what's inappropriate at this point. I honestly think that Joe Biden is like a kid, right? i mean it actually is i don't think joe biden cares what's inappropriate at this point i i honestly think that joe biden is like a kid right he's much like weekend at bernie's right now and someone's holding them up with strings and walking around the stage i honestly i don't i don't know i i think that they're gonna they're gonna try to push the the mandates back i think they're gonna try to mess with people's jobs again i really do and i but i think that you know the american public many of the people who fell for it first time are not going to fall for it again but so so the way we've described it is
Starting point is 00:10:08 or what we've predicted they will issue guidelines they'll do something like you cannot discriminate against someone who seeks who decides to quarantine sure but no one's forced to quarantine but then businesses will need money to pay for employees who don't want to come into work and don't have to then they'll issue another kind of ppp or whatever the guidelines because they know they can't do a hard lockdown justify an expansion of universal mail-in voting i wouldn't be surprised if they outright legalize mass ballot harvesting under the guise of covid there's no doubt that that's that's part of this push i mean they definitely want they want mail-in voting as much as possible. Look, the Democrats
Starting point is 00:10:47 are going to do anything they possibly can to win. I just don't think they can do it with Biden. But COVID is not out of the realm of possibility to force this election to be done through mail-in voting. I don't think that we're in, we're not talking in a vacuum right now. Millions of people are listening to us and if we make enough noise ahead of
Starting point is 00:11:04 time and shock people out of the stupor they won't we won't even get off the ground we have agreed i spent two two full years rallying against the stuff on my smaller podcast and and definitely the big podcasters the big shows have got to push this uh you know mass it was i think scott adams scott adams said the first company to do this, we must bankrupt. Yes, absolutely. Stop buying all their products and Bud Light and Target them in the exact same way. I read that Vanguard and BlackRock are getting out of ESG. They're down to like 3%. Yeah, but that just means that they're looking for another thing to call it.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They're finding something else. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, interesting. They're not going to give up on the goal. No. Right. And that's something that people on the right and people that are involved in in and you know whatever you want to call it the culture war
Starting point is 00:11:48 whatever need to understand like even if like black rock and vanguard and all these these um investment bankers and stuff they get out of the esg uh model they're going to be looking for something else to achieve the same goals because they're ideologically mode. You made a good point there with the, with the fact that, um, they're not gonna, they're not gonna change the goal. The goal is always going to stay the same. And that's what worries me about the Russia thing, right? Is that if COVID doesn't work, there's a damn good chance that they use a hot water.
Starting point is 00:12:18 What do you think is the goal with Russia? The goal with Russia right now, I honestly, i think that it's to push them towards the the the one world government i mean if you want to get really deep into alex jones but territory it's not alex but hold on there there are there are two dominant global factions yeah nato and bricks sure what's the what's the idea we need to crush them because bricks is our enemy no i don't but you're not going to you're not going to get russia to fall under nato influence right because they're they're they're not going to they just want we rush right week right right i think it may actually just be more
Starting point is 00:12:55 so they're not thinking about it in terms of we must defeat russia because russia's enemy it's we must reduce bricks by seven percent sure yeah sure and they are seven percent of the population i mean seven russia's like seven percent what concerns me is the people calling shots are like and if we reduce the united states power by 20 in order to reduce russia by seven percent then the swiss bankers win right but we've talked about this though there's there's a lot of something in my opinion there's substance to the argument that the established you know order right now is changing the whole lucidity trafficking that we talk about and it seems to me and i've heard the argument i forgot where i heard but i'd see but it seems reasonable to me that the goal of the people that are like in the wef and stuff like that um
Starting point is 00:13:39 and the un stuff the goal is to do a soft landing with the united states as china rises and the intent is in this is to keep the whole world out of world war iii but if they can have a soft landing and lower the u.s's um living standards in a way that doesn't cause too much chaos in the united states and also at the same time support china so they can raise their their level of of influence and stuff and manage that without having the u.s and china go to war that i think is the goal because the the the chinese model in my opinion is what the people like the wef and stuff was what they want to institute in the west because they have essentially ultimate control over the population and that have you have you guys seen that uh eugenia cooney video
Starting point is 00:14:27 she's the uh yeah social media influencer who weighs probably 13 pounds literally maybe like 40 pounds yeah and uh like on the verge of death anorexic right and and she's apparently got like eight million hits on tiktok people are begging her to get help and all that stuff but it just it reminds me of what the war actually is right now you have influence from china to destroy the younger generations in this country these kids uh i saw one story already someone said that their uh younger sibling stopped eating because they wanted to look like eugenia it's the it's the opium war except they're not using actual physical opium they're using technology they are though i mean that's coming to the southern border so that's happening too yeah does china want to destroy america you think china wants to destroy america or they just want to weaken it so they can have 10 10 percent more
Starting point is 00:15:17 power in the right i i think right now what the the global powers are looking at is i just want them to be weaker than us so we have the dominant position it's almost like a sumo match right but it could eventually lead to a fistfight and it seems like that's where we're going now as for tucker carlson predicting hot war with russia i think it's funny because if you actually talked to him about it and said right but we're at war with russia he'd say well yes of course yeah of course yeah and then he'd expand upon the idea the idea being the u.s will formally declare war or they'll find a reason to do it and uh it's it's it's going to be some kind of false flag not with congress though
Starting point is 00:15:54 of course not it's gonna it's gonna be unilateral action it's gonna be you it's gonna be a nato uh nato uh article five so false flag this is what they did in vietnam they did a false flag to get us to go to vietnam to fight a proxy war against russia right uh so you're thinking now they're going to do a false flag to get us go fight the mainland russia like yo we're going to invade russia kind of thing no there's i the idea of the united states putting boots into like russia no what about not on alaska i mean it's what is it like 100 miles away from russia no there's not even up there. 50 miles or something. There's nothing strategic.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Beachheads. The Aleutian Islands stretch all the way, like very, very close to Japan. But think about, listen, think about what you're talking about, though. Like if Russia invades Alaska, right, they have to go over the Rockies to get to mainland to the lower 48. Or they have to invade Canada. Yeah, they have to go through Canada and they have to go over. This is not easy. They're going to be slipping on maple syrup and getting frozen in the ice.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Listen, I've traveled through the Rockies out there. You blow up passes and you shut down any advance. You can't drive tanks and stuff like that through the mountains without roads. That's just not happening. Could they take the coast? It is not happening like fallout three on the flip side china invades alaska for resources you can take all of alaska yeah yeah but i mean i mean how many people are
Starting point is 00:17:15 in alaska there's like 250 000 in the state i think we'd have no choice but to respond with a maximum military force oh yeah the nukes would fly if there's an invasion i don't i don't i don't think there's no waiting around i decimate the opponent in that situation they do not invade i think to let's get let's get specific in the event that china russia or whatever these these bricks powers invade alaska that's a long shot for a variety of reasons but in the event they do i do not believe that um icbm nuclear weapons will be launched over that however don't be surprised if you see nuclear artillery yeah you know to be honest with you like not that i not that this the idea of anyone invading alaska is more compelling now that we're discussing it but if there were a situation like that, Alaska is the type of place where using,
Starting point is 00:18:05 uh, tactical nuclear weapons, uh, would make sense. There's nobody around. Very small population. Yeah. There's nobody around.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And if you, if you see a column moving, you know, take them out. I'm at offensive, like counteroffense, tactical nuclear weapons, like on Russian cities.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So the Russians invade the United States. They beg for death. Yeah. But, but hold on. Like, this is the problem with nukes the russian government attacks so your response is to vaporize a million innocent civilians right we can't do that and that's why i don't think the nukes go flying this this idea that in the event of war we all start firing nukes at our at our
Starting point is 00:18:41 at our cities is just like they're trying to just like, they're trying to control the cities. They're trying to control resources. Nobody wants to, I would say for the most part, most people don't want to rule over the ashes, but they don't want to be subjugated either. The only reason you would see nukes fly is to destroy military targets. So you may see New York in some way devastated by a massive nuclear attack or some kind of advanced tech. I believe it's more likely at this point, civilian targets will be hit by massive cyber attacks. What we saw with the ransomware,
Starting point is 00:19:12 where you have like these, the train system, whole network goes down because all of the computers get encrypted instantly. The pipeline. The pipeline. Exactly. How did they take out Nord Stream? That they,
Starting point is 00:19:24 they, who took out Nord Stream? Yeah, exactly. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, out nordstrom that they uh who took out nordstrom yeah exactly how did uh u.s intelligence and western powers take out nordstrom conventional explosives a lot of nanothermite stuff a lot of explosives like i get apparently the uh it's not that hard the pipeline was he's like encased in connelly it's not just like a tube like it's a big deal right so there's a lot of look you don't it's underwater you blow it up yeah you don't need a nuclear bomb to blow up a pipe right but what i what i think we'd be more likely to see is um calin mentioned it there was that cyber attack on that uh that that pipeline and that basically shut down gas supply in the southeast.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And people don't remember that. It's kind of like, yo, that could be war. And you would not know. The risk is, in the past, Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam, the U.S. wanted the American people to think we were attacked to justify public support for a war. Today, there's good reason not to get forced into a war because you want to be prepared for one and if you're not you don't want your economy disrupted so the u.s is not going to come out and be like that cyber attack that was china because that would mean the people would rally and demand retaliation which we may not be prepared for however that being said the
Starting point is 00:20:39 u.s government could very easily cyber attack a water plant or a pipeline disrupt the flow of energy in you know the midwest in chicago or something millions of people are in desperate panic water is not pumping out of their you know there's no electricity or whatever and then they say that was china we found putin's passport i like that i like that line of thinking because we're listen we us podcasters and guys who do shows we're constantly talking about who's our biggest enemy. Who's our biggest, these guys are, these guys, these guys are going to attack thermonuclear war. Our biggest enemies right here, man.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You know what I mean? Like the, the, the American government can do whatever they want. They could shut off our resources. I mean, it's, it's pretty, you know, it's pretty scary to think about what they could do to us. We have a correction. John, uh, John Curry says, phil there's over 700,000 people in alaska the chat is upset they're mad at you i apologize they're on the coast
Starting point is 00:21:33 you're an alaska bigot for sure and the thing is there's a lot of people in the chat that we're saying they're like 736,081 as of 2020. So probably more at this point. Median household income, 77,800. Yeah, they're not. That ain't bad. They're not doing bad. Well, they also,
Starting point is 00:21:50 they get the oil subsidies. Yeah, you get paid to live there. Yeah, but it's only like a couple grand, I heard. Per month? I know a few of them get a couple grand. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:21:57 a couple grand a month. I don't know. A month? I've been to Alaska once. That's basically the median income. I've been to Alaska once. Don't take my word for it. I'd love to go.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I know that it was, it goes up and down. I know that. Let's bring it back home. I've been to Alaska once. Don't take my word for it. I know that it was... It goes up and down. I know that. Let's bring it back home. You're talking about the enemy's domestic. Well, let's talk about what's happening here in the U.S. We got this story from the Daily Mail. Tucker Carlson claims Barack Obama enjoyed smoking crack and having gay sex.
Starting point is 00:22:19 If I understand correctly. Nobody reported ahead of the 2008 election. Did he actually claim it or did he say maybe this is? No, he said outright yes. How does he know? He said that the campaign would remove anybody who brought it up in 2008 even. Because he said a guy came forward, Larry Sinclair, and said, I'll sign an affidavit, and he did. I'll do a lie detector, and he did.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He said that he smoked crack with Barack Obama and they had sex. That was obviously true. Carlson was referencing the claims made by a convicted felon, Sincinclair at the National Press Club in 2008 while Obama was running for president. He said nobody reported on it due to threats from the Obama campaign. Quote, nobody reported it not because they were squeamish about sex or drugs, but because the Obama campaign said anyone who reports on this gets no access to the Obama campaign. So they didn't report on it. The amount of lying in the media about it was unbelievable this happens all the time up and down government sinclair who has spent time in prison for forgery fraud and larceny alleged that obama who was then a senator bought and smoked cocaine
Starting point is 00:23:14 i think it was crack before having sex with him well i will i will add that um obama has not particularly good taste in men if that's true well you know i mean and he has good taste in women well look i mean yeah i gotta be honest like if you if you put michelle obama next to this guy she's got beautiful eyes but let's be real i mean this is this guy's 54 now and he was a lot younger back then uh but let's be serious there was that letter they actually have it they have something here on the story look at this i don't know what this is they say former president brock obama's gay sex fantasy was revealed in a newly obtained 1982 letter to his ex-girlfriend so we know in 1982 he was 21 i think he was writing about how he wanted to bang dudes and you know hey more power to a man i just think it's historically significant if we can say that Barack Obama
Starting point is 00:24:06 not only the first black president or not entirely white president, was also a gay man who smoked crack. One more reason to give the guy grief. He was the first LGBT president and didn't even have the
Starting point is 00:24:22 cojones to admit it. Don't be big. And he lied lied he lied when he was running he was against gay marriage when he was running he was then and then he came out once he got elected so he lies to get elected hides the fact that he's lgbt and then he comes out oh god more reason to hate on him thanks obama i don't think tucker's lying but i don't think that taking the word of a fraudster this guy's a convicted convicted for fraud and he's the one that's saying that he had sex with barack i it's witness testimony it's one guy's testimony so why would tucker make the
Starting point is 00:24:54 claim that it's true just because the lie detector exactly not admissible in court yet he tucker claims it's true because the guys because it makes good headlines tucker's saying what he tucker's reporting what he heard. Well, he could have said that a guy told him, but instead he came out and said, it's true. I don't know. I mean, I didn't,
Starting point is 00:25:09 did he actually say it's true? This could confirm the big mic rumors, though. I don't know if that, I don't know. Lie detectors can be admissible as long as both parties agree to them. The issue is more so
Starting point is 00:25:22 that someone will contest it. So they're generally not used. But even still, it doesn't it doesn't matter like the people that don't like barack obama this is only going to be stuff for them to go ahead and make jokes about the people that like barack obama they're not going to care it doesn't matter what it is we know we know that he would lie about you know his policies to get elected i mean that's that's he's we already know what kind of person he is he's already in and out of office he's already killed yeah children that's the thing if you really want to stay focused on what he's done wrong i feel like this is a red herring there's no reason well nobody's focusing on what he's done wrong there's absolutely no appetite to
Starting point is 00:25:57 bring him up on charges for anything so there's no point even talking about what is it'll have other than being like hey don't forget if news does come out for some reason that sticks and it's like barack obama killed american citizen nobody cares but let's say for some reason the story does pop whatever a new one comes out that obama mentioned another drone strike obama would come out and all the news would be like obama's about to give a press conference oh i wonder if it's about the allegations and the and the drones and he's gonna go my fellow americans i'm gay and then that's it and then everyone goes wild yep yeah yep i mean that's the thing for me it's like it's it's it's funny you know if you want them to to make jokes about or whatever like it you know poke fun at it to to make light of it but it's not substantially it doesn't matter it's fun on the internet yeah
Starting point is 00:26:42 exactly it's exactly it's a funny it's a funny it's fun on the internet and we were exactly. It's a funny meme. It's fun on the internet. And we were talking about this before. Listen, if you're involved in politics, but you're not taking part in the culture war, you're dead in the water, right? We talked about that on the way here. Every single candidate for anything, Pete Buttigieg, anybody who's got some kind of diverse identity of any sort is going to put that at the very forefront to deflect them from all of their bad policies. And Obama would just do that. He write another memoir you know and everybody would
Starting point is 00:27:08 go buy it and forget all about it i don't know but i do think things are changing right that that's a statistic about 12 kids 12th grade boys being uh or males they're adults um skewing conservative yeah i actually as you mentioned if you're not in the culture where you're not in politics exactly yeah i think we're we're we're at heavy market saturation for politics it's it's becoming pop culture i mean we've talked about this a couple years ago politics is pop culture that's why you get people who have no business in politics doing political podcasts this is why you have late night comedy is nothing but politics right there's no one cares about anything else speaking of did you see the five the big five late night hosts the seth strike force five dude they're doing a twitter show together it looks so lame it looks lame it is like seth uh what's his name seth something myers
Starting point is 00:27:55 myers looked so miserable in that promo like he couldn't even say it with feeling i saw the clip and now i have to start chemo on wednesday and then got Jimmy. Jimmy Fallon looks so annoyed with Jimmy Kimmel. Those guys do not want to be in the same room together. He's like, oh my God. They're getting paid a hundred million bucks a night or whatever. They're under contract. And the studios were like, we know how to make money and generate content while there's no writers. You're doing the podcast.
Starting point is 00:28:20 They made Stephen Colbert be the ringleader and the other guys are like, who is this? I'm not bowing down to this guy. Why is he the one ringleading this crap? It's really annoying. I feel for those rich dudes. I think it's breaking apart. I hope so. I mean, Joe Rogan being the biggest podcast is, and for a long time.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And by a long shot, too. I mean, a long, long, long ways. I mean, he's got, what, twice the daily viewership as CNN? I mean, it's... Dude, long form, one-on-one is the most bomb, awesome, possible format. Yeah. You might be... Bringing in other people, too, is cool, but any disruption of a vibe sucks if you're really
Starting point is 00:28:58 in the zone. Tucker proved it. I mean, he went free agent, and he's getting more views than Fox has ever got. Ever. Ever. You learn so much about somebody. And let's be real, right? So everyone's talking about this 200 million views or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Those are tweet views. Impressions. I don't like the word impression because typically an impression implies like when you're scrolling through an article and there's something on the left of the screen you don't pay attention to. A tweet view passes by you and you look at it as it passes you by so it's i'm not trying to to defend you know impressions or whatever i'm just trying to point out there is a subtle difference if i'm scrolling my twitter feed and i'm actually looking at things and then
Starting point is 00:29:36 not interested not interested not interested it's very different to an ad was on the left of my screen i never even noticed you know how long it needs to remain on your screen as you're scrolling to count? It might be a couple seconds. That would be in the code. I think it's three seconds. Okay. It's different on different sites.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I'm not entirely sure. But what we do know is if you actually look at the hard numbers, which are available on some devices, it was around like 20 million views. Sure. And you look at his ratings on Fox. They come on like Tucker did not get 200 million views. He got 20. And I'm like, wow, when he was on Fox, he was getting three.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Right. So now he's getting 17 more. Okay. You look at all the shows he's doing. He actually is getting several million hits per episode. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he's getting a lot more, especially with the President Trump interview. Way more than he ever got on Fox.
Starting point is 00:30:20 I mean, it can't be even close. Well, he had like five point something was his record, you know fox and with it with the trump thing it's it was like 20 yeah it was uh i think when they reported it was around like 18 so it's got to be 20 to 25 by now well and i could say of actual like people sitting down and watching through the video listen i this is as a as a candidate for president i i am not and i mean I'm not out seeking the legacy like corporate news media. I'm seeking the big podcasters, right? That's who I want. That's who I want to go to.
Starting point is 00:30:51 When you have candidates for the office of the entire United States executive branch that are seeking out podcasts instead of the corporate news media, the corporate news media is dead. That's it. Dude, this is what Vivek's plan has been it 10 has been to rachel maddow's audience elderly right and uh even even fox news audience they're they're a lot older tucker here's here's the biggest screw-up that fox did tucker actually was attracting younger viewers yes he was getting key demo viewers you look at these other guys and they're and they're skewing way older and that's it they walked away from all of it yeah what do they got left greg gutfeld is he that's about i mean gutfeld's cool he's doing he's doing well he gets a younger crowd jesse waters took over for tucker but everybody just despises fox news i mean you look at um who was it was it uh
Starting point is 00:31:35 neil cavuto talking to vivek ramaswamy trying to justify the indictments against trump and it's it's just laughably bad and vivek is like no, no, are you nuts? He's like, well, you know, there's all of these indictments. I mean, one of them has to be real, and it's like, are you kidding me? Fox is terrible. But, you know, to be honest, Cavuto is never, like, their best personality anyway. I haven't watched Fox other than Tucker, Gutfield, and Kennedy. I haven't watched Fox in probably, I don't know, 10 years. Kennedy's awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I used to watch her on MTV, man. So did I. That girl was awesome. Yeah, plus she'd have Dave on. Dave was, like, a regular on it. And Spike. Spike's been watch her on MTV, man. So did I. That girl was awesome. Yeah, plus she'd have Dave on. Dave was like a regular on it. And Spike. Spike's been on there several times, too. Olivia Rondeau goes on.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah, Olivia Rondeau. There's a lot of people that I know from the conservative circle that goes on there quite a bit. Dude, what's your plan, man? Your presidential plan? So we actually have a whole website. It has all our platforms up there. Abolish things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So I've talked about, so much like Vivek, who I think may have stolen one of my platform points, by the way. I'm pretty sure that he stole one for the debate. I had never heard a presidential candidate talk about how the federal government subsidizes separating families and states until he spoke about it on the debate. But I do want to abolish Title IVd of the social security act which is a incentive from the federal government they give three dollars for every two dollars spent on child support and enforcement programs in every state so they're incentivizing the state to create a visitor out of one parent and a custodian a parent out of the other parent and then if this parent has any issues they criminalize them and take more
Starting point is 00:33:05 so we're talking three dollars for every two dollars given that's what they do um and if you look since 1975 when when ford signed this into law uh if you look since then the um uh amount of fatherless homes has increased tenfold tenfold i mean insane amount and one in four uh kids lives in a father's home now. Let's talk politics. We've been talking about enemies, both foreign and domestic, and we have this story. Donald Trump tells Glenn Beck, you have no choice. He will absolutely lock people up if returned to the White House. He didn't say it with much enthusiasm, but here's the clip for all of you.
Starting point is 00:33:42 You know, lock her up. And then when you became president you said we don't do that in america that's just not the right thing to do that's what they're doing do you regret not locking her up and if you're president again will you lock people up well i'll give you an example uh the answer is you have no choice because they're doing a test i always had such great respect for the office of the president, the presidency, but the office of the president. And I never hit Biden as hard as I could have. And then I heard he was trying to indict me, and it was him that was doing it. You know, I don't think he's sharp enough to think about much, but he was there, and he was probably
Starting point is 00:34:20 the one giving the other. He was, you know's hard to believe that he even thinks about that because he's gone. But then I said, well, they're actually trying to indict me because every one of these indictments is him, including Bragg. You know, Bragg, he put his time. So we get it. He says he's going to lock people up. What I want to add to this is Rachel Maddow recently said that Donald Trump is only running because he wants to solve his legal problems. That's actually Joe Biden. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And now that Joe Biden is president, he's probably saying all I can do is either win reelection or lock Trump up. But if Trump wins, I'm going down. And of course, you have to accuse your opponents of doing what you, in fact, are doing. So Rachel Maddow comes out, blames Trump, says he wants to be president for life. I guess the question is one do you really think trump will do this and then after we answer that my question for you joshua is uh are you also going to lock people up uh yeah i i definitely want to investigate the
Starting point is 00:35:15 covid regime and and fauci fauci safer uh any gov any governor yes. You know, I feel like saying just the COVID regime doesn't go far enough. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, it feels nearly far. There's definitely people that need to be locked up. Don't let them turn you to the dark side. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No, they won't. No, the light is trying to save. There is nothing. There is nothing. Divine fire. There is nothing illiberal about enforcing the law it depends on the law for sure it well no because if it's if it's if you have a liberal society especially a society like ours that protects the people protects rights your laws should not be violating people's rights
Starting point is 00:35:58 not without due process so if you've got someone that has has been using the government the federal government to enrich their own family there's nothing immoral about about enforcing like enforcing the law or investigating it this earlier today i tweeted there's currently a member of an amount of circumstantial evidence joe biden is engaged and pay for influence in ukraine via his son the president of the united states donald trump was impeached by the Democrats for investigating this. Like, that's actually what happened. Like, there is no reason why we shouldn't investigate the entire Biden administration. The whole administration. His family.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Like, all of his business associates. They know it. Who's going to force that investigation, though? Well, I mean, I'm saying that would be if Trump were to be elected. Here's the big question. Do you actually think Trump is going to do anything? It's not. I don't think it's a matter of whether or not Trump will want to. I think it's a matter of whether Trump will be able to successfully execute.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Because it's a matter of can he find people in government that could fulfill the roles that are competent, that will be able to get into positions in the bureaucracy and actually investigate and prosecute? Will they be able, because you know that there are going to be people in FBI and CIA and stuff like that, that are going to be doing all they can to hide stuff. So it's a matter of will he be able to get people that are effective? Will he want to?
Starting point is 00:37:18 I think he'll want to. Will he execute? Eh, who knows. This is a, we just heard that Enrique Tarrio's sentencing was delayed because the judge fell ill it was an emergency and they're trying to lock up enrique and other members of the proud boys for 33 years ridiculous donald trump gets elected these men are pardoned there there should be i i believe trump pardons them everybody everybody that like everybody on january 6th
Starting point is 00:37:46 in my like even the people that were getting into fights with cops they've already done their time they've already done enough time now consider let them go if we are talking about civil war everybody drink oh here we go yeah uh you have these individuals being accused and convicted of seditious conspiracy. Quite literally, they were accused of a plot to overthrow the United States in support of Donald Trump. The argument being brought forward by the Democrats is that Trump was their leader who actually wanted them and encouraged them to do this. If Trump gets elected, how will the view of the left not be Donald Trump succeeded in overthrowing the United States government?
Starting point is 00:38:29 That will be the narrative. It will be shoved down people's throat and every single, like, you know, wine mom is going to buy it. So how could any of these liberals or leftists argue we are not in a civil war if they believe that Proud Boys were engaged in a seditious conspiracy
Starting point is 00:38:44 at the direction of Donald Trump to overthrow the United States donald trump still has a path to gain power in fact they believe he currently is likely to win i think that will be the narrative i mean there's there's no doubt about it that's going to be the narrative everyone runs with especially if he wins do do you honestly think that he will uh pardon enrique though yes you do i i i'm not saying it's 100 sure but i think um we've already got i'm not your buddy guy in the super chat saying robert barnes for ag i'm i'm wondering if trump plays the the tepid role and just wins and goes ah we gotta slow down blah blah or does trump go in and say at this point i am done and then he robert barnes he starts bringing in diehard trump supporters to do these jobs who will do without question because he did not do that the first time
Starting point is 00:39:33 he went to his donors he went to the establishment and said you know who do you think would be good let's play ball and then they tried to destroy him and he walked he walked the line there there you've you've got these false charges, accusations of being a Russian spy. You've got the, you know, he tries to dig into the Ukraine scandal. And they impeach him over it. And what does he do? Nothing. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:55 So I'm not entirely convinced. But I do think there's a possibility that if Trump is elected, it's revenge. And then you'll see MAGA personalities. I mean, look. Lookffrey clark acting assistant attorney general and they've criminally indicted him if trump brings that guy back i imagine he's going to be like i can't imagine because we've had jeffrey clark here i can't imagine this kind of guy who's going to be like i want revenge no he's going to be the guy who says yo these people are corrupt and if we're going to save this guy who says, yo, these people are corrupt.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And if we're going to save this country, they must be criminally charged. Joshua, I have a question. How many and what departments would you abolish? Cabinet level. Hold on. There's not enough time on the show. No, it's easier to ask which departments. Which ones would you leave?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Thank you. I appreciate that. Which ones would you leave? I can't even think of any right now. I know that we're going after the ATF first. I believe 100%. And Vivek talked a lot about this. The president doesn't actually have the power to go and abolish some of these things on his own. No, but Vivek mentioned-
Starting point is 00:40:58 Mass layoffs. It's not about layoffs. It's about organizational- The RFI as well, where you can transfer out and stuff like that. It's like when you're a boss at a company and you know you can't fire someone, so you put them in the janitor's closet and hope they quit. My goal is to get rid of everybody at the ATF and then level the ATF building and turn it into a dog park.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I'd auction off all the leftover ATF equipment. No, no, no, no, no. I absolutely. So that we can pay reparations to people who had to unconstitutionally buy NFA tax stamps. I am offended by this notion. I reject this notion. The ATF building should be turned into large gun super malls. That would be good, too.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yes. We can do both with the different buildings. But I think in honor of all the dogs murdered. You know, I know so. Right, right. I have a friendly relationship with the people at Brownells, and I wonder if they want a new location in Washington, D.C. In Martinsburg.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah, there you go. Apparently they're up there, too. Absolutely. No, I can't think of many. I can't think of an agency that I'd keep. Keep right now. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm like, come on, there's got to be one.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I had a really good conversation with Austin Peterson the other day. You have to keep the DOJ, I think. I had a good conversation about the CIA. I know, but maybe the Department of Transportation? Well, Department of Energy is the one I'm thinking of. All the states can do that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 But if we're trying to manage interstate rail and freight and stuff, it might make sense. I mean, I'm not saying it does to have some kind of organizing body for, so it's easier for California to adjudicate, you know, between other states if like Wyoming has got an issue.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And then I guess the courts could handle that. Well, I know the IRS is gone right away. Oh yeah, first one out the door. And I would like to abolish the income tax entirely. That includes the state tax, payroll tax and capital gains tax. How do people not vote for this? And then I want to abolish the income tax entirely. That includes the state tax, payroll tax, and capital gains tax. How do people not vote for this? And then I want to institute what's user fees, which is what the federal government always
Starting point is 00:42:51 should have been. User fees? User fees. How does that work? Listen, if you're an American paying the federal government and you don't need anything from the federal government, there's no reason you should be paying the federal government. Period. Plain and simple.
Starting point is 00:42:59 So what if you want to drive on an interstate highway toll? So if there's a... Yeah, maybe we go to some kind of toll system too, but there's already a lot of toll booths for a lot of different interstates around the country, but user fees and, and it would be a while. You gas like there's people forget that there is the tax.
Starting point is 00:43:15 There's a federal tax in every gallon of gas that is sold. And the reason that there's a federal tax, the what sold people on it was the tax is going to be used to pay for the highways. So you've got the federal government taxing every gallon of gas. They have plenty of money. But that's all going to pet projects, though. That's not going to that's not going to city. That's the problem is that all these bills are packed with pork and they're paying for pet projects.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I mean, it comes out of Social Security. It comes out of the gas tax it comes out the point is we don't need to have an income tax for a lot of the things that people think we need the income tax for and also we are on we are our government works with a monet modern monetary policy basic theory so they're they don't really care about collecting taxes to pay for anything if they want something they print the money to pay to make it and then they just collect taxes to reduce inflation just really quickly to add your point and uh i don't know how many people watching know this but prior to the national tax act and even the 16th amendment there was uh there there was still a government that operated before they stole money that's not true straight from your paycheck yeah absolutely and it's a story
Starting point is 00:44:24 they tell kids to scare you know if you want national defense or whatever I mean listen any patriotic American that likes their national defense system if you told them we're
Starting point is 00:44:31 not going to take your payroll taxes anymore but would you be willing to voluntarily crowdfund our national military with ten bucks a month I guarantee there's millions of
Starting point is 00:44:38 people are going to pay for that every I got I got an idea we talked about this with a vague if you want to vote you have to sign up for the draft that's a there's a lot of theories like that sign up for the draft there's also uh if you want to vote you should be a property owner a landowner i don't know if you've heard that one
Starting point is 00:44:52 floating around yeah the i don't agree with that because uh we're we're we're in an era of renting which didn't exist back in the day it made sense back in the day it's like hey if you live here you can vote on what we're doing but if you don you live here, you can vote on what we're doing. But if you don't live here, why are you voting on what we're doing? You don't live here. Now it's like, well, I do live here. I rent a room upstairs. I'm anti-draft. So I don't think that conscription is a good thing. Let me ask you, though.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Let's say that all these apartments are abolished. You get elected president. You walk in. You start signing executive orders so fast. Your right arm is just massive and ripped. And we're going to, yeah. And you've signed like 10,000 documents. You're drenched in sweat.
Starting point is 00:45:29 The rest of your body is disheveled and falling apart. Like Joe Biden in a normal. Just curling with your left arm while you're signing with your right. After all of that, a utopia, a libertarian utopia exists. And then China invades California with a massive force of 300 000 troops and they start just gunning down and massacring people and at that point do you say we need a draft we need to get people to come and fight no so so i wouldn't listen if i got if you people were wild enough to actually put me in the white house okay let's say that first okay as a libertarian if if you guys are crazy enough to put me in the white house right now i appreciate it i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:46:07 do all the work i possibly can to make sure that people have more freedoms every day i'm not in any place to immediately cut the military that's just crazy bringing troops home stopping wars abroad closing down some bases that we don't need around the world i think that's an important step and then a more aggressive mental health care policy for our vets that are coming home from broad that are need to reintegrate in with their wives and families and stuff because we haven't taken care of our veterans in this country at all at all i am a veteran um but it's not like i'm going to come in on day one and be like that's it all military's done you're all going home i'm just saying in the hypothetical scenario you're talking about an anarchist society no i'm just saying in
Starting point is 00:46:44 the hypothetical hypothetical scenario that the United States is directly invaded and we have multiple forces storming our beaches and taking over our cities, you still oppose conscription? Yes, I would. I would oppose conscription. And in fact, I think that I think that our, you know, our citizens are going to do what the military would do on their own for their own home. And they volunteer.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I think I think they're going to take up arms. I mean, we have more guns here in the United States. That's why no one's ever really invaded the United States. There's more guns here. Yeah, but also the United States is real damn big to invade. Yeah, it's hard. You look at invading. Like crossing the mountains would be insane.
Starting point is 00:47:17 It'd be harder than Afghanistan, for sure. Yeah, I mean, it's just like I was saying earlier, like getting through the mountain ranges in the West Coast. Like people talk about, oh, well, you know, China invading, blah, blah, blah. The Rockies will shut down and advance like nothing. Appalachia. Yeah. Appalachia would, too.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I mean, like the U.S. has. Could you imagine? Really defendable. The Great Lakes, too. Russia or China invading and they're trying to move westward through Appalachia. And there's a bunch of. They're done. Right wing nut jobs with the Barrett m82s up on a mountain just picking them off one by one
Starting point is 00:47:50 if you don't i don't know if you would need to institute a draft to defend but if if there's no military command overseeing the logistics then it would just be disparate factions i don't think i don't think we're gonna get literally the best option if you're trying to defend i will that's exactly what the taliban they don't have a centralized yes thing to the taliban got whipped around for two decades the talent where and they took over in two seconds you're not taught okay so like you're not talking about individual engagements individual engagements the taliban lose individual engagements the vietnamese lost but because of the policy goal that the governments had, they were unattainable. So even the individual battles and engagements they lose, they're never going to achieve the policy goals, which is why rifles and a determined enemy will always, always beat an invading army.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And I will say to look up the Afghanistan papers, if you haven't, I'm sure your crowd already knows about that. But the government knew that that was an unwinnable war in Afghanistan, 100% even at the very beginning. What they had to do to defend was the Taliban was living in caves and the Vietnamese were living underground literally in tunnels for 10 years. They lived in tunnels.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Do you think the people in Appalachia are going to do that? Yes. Do you think they would prefer that? What's the option? It's our backyard. The option is you draft your neighbors and I think they would prefer that. What's the option? What's the option? It's our backyard. The option is you draft your neighbors and you get organized with the military. It's an invasion. I'm not forcing anybody to fight a war.
Starting point is 00:49:12 There's no way. A defensive war. I mean, that's what the draft is for. People are going to fight it anyways here in the United States. If they invade and they take a beachhead and they take land, the federal government is already strapped if if if a if a a foreign government a foreign military actually manages to establish a beachhead and and have the beginning of an infrastructure to take mainland united states the amount like the government has to be in shambles
Starting point is 00:49:39 by then anyways let me know that's even become i i disagree you don't think the federal government southern no well that's not that's not that's not i'm not landing craft i'm not talking about landing craft i'm not saying big army that is a beachhead i'm saying the federal government is incapable of dealing with perhaps it is by design but i i i don't think i think people overestimate the the the capabilities of the United States. I absolutely do. There are people who have been saying over and over again for years, the federal government won't allow this, they won't allow that. It's like, how many federal law enforcement officers and how many people you think are in the military?
Starting point is 00:50:18 The military is somewhere around. I'll tell you this. If I was a tyrant and I was running this country as a tyrant and I wanted to weaken this country to make it submit, one of the things I would do is I would send all of my troops to over 200 bases around the country. In the world? In the world, yeah. 200 bases around the world and make it very easy to invade this country. Do you think if we started bringing our troops home, you'd be as worried about us having a war here in the United States?
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'd be less worried if our troops were at home be as worried about us having a war here in the united states i'd be less worried if our troops were at home yes absolutely 100 so bring them home is is the important and good and righteous thing but then there is the argument of staging offensive operations to prevent an attack the united states i just i just want to stress i really love the idea of imagining what would it be like if a foreign invader came to Appalachia. I do it all the time. It's so fun. It's so fun to imagine because when you go up to,
Starting point is 00:51:09 there's various mountains over here, and we know all the people who live on these mountains, and they are, they lovingly call themselves right-wing nutjobs. Yes. And then they have guns everywhere,
Starting point is 00:51:20 and I'm just saying, there'll be a guy up on a mountain with his Barrett, and he's going to be like, just waiting. And it's like, no one's coming. He's like, I want to be here in case they do i think the age of ground invasion is kind of not really over but like world war ii they had to drop nukes
Starting point is 00:51:33 on japan because they knew a ground invasion of the of the island would have been a million dead americans like you can't fight an entrenched force no it'd be insane for them to send ground invasion in the united it'd all be drone warfare it would it would drone swarms so here's the first thing you get you'd get cyber attacks which would cut off your infrastructure you'd lose you'd lose gasoline oil electricity goes out then you'll get strategic drone strikes after the infrastructure is just whipped to shreds then you get the ground forces coming in to secure the the territory you cannot occupy a street corner with a drone. So after they decimate any kind of infrastructure, I mean, really, people need to consider what it means
Starting point is 00:52:10 if our oil pipelines get shut down. That's another thing people don't realize. There's only a handful of places that actually refine oil. So like Jersey, right outside of New York City, New Orleans, and I believe in LA, those are the three places that you can import oil into the US. And if I understand correctly, and I could be wrong, but if I understand correctly, that's it.
Starting point is 00:52:30 You take out those cities or those refineries, and the US oil production, I believe, comes close to a standstill. It's significantly hurt. Rachel Maddow had that famous line where she's like, Russia could shut off your electricity in the winter with a cyber attack. It's like, well, what they'd probably do is they'd probably just destroy the North Dakota frack fields.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Large amounts of energy produced in these areas, fossil fuels. They'd shut that down. They'd have to come through Canada to get there. No, they wouldn't. They'd go on their computer in Russia and type a few lines of code and hit enter and it goes down. Now, that is whether or not you believe that uh we have defensive capabilities in our infrastructure 10 years ago we did not we were running industrial control systems from the 70s and of course i i guess the prevailing theory or one of them was
Starting point is 00:53:16 that every major world power had already gained a death grip on the cyber infrastructure of every other country and at any minute mutually assured destruction at that point was we press enter and your electricity goes out and it's not coming back and then the response was yeah we'll do the same to you because we have off network machines that are capable of shutting you down mutually assured destruction everyone thinks is nukes flying at this point it's a guy pressing enter and look at look at stuxnet remember that yeah that was 10 years ago. The Iranian. Amazing. They were like, release
Starting point is 00:53:47 the virus and let it go into the wild and eventually find its way to the Iranian centrifuges and blow them up. They don't even need to do anything on US soil, whether cyber attack or invasion. Canals, the Suez and Panama. We're already seeing the impacts of the Panama backup. Imagine, like, we rely on all of our
Starting point is 00:54:03 products, all of our lives through china so what if they stop all transportation coming from that way you know so i'm not even worried about the u.s people you know it's a really good argument for making more things in america by the way absolutely but people really don't understand and haven't taken into consideration what would happen during a war and we have not even ever scratched the surface on what would happen. We were talking about civil war the other night and I forgot who the guest was. They said peaceful divorce, which I said
Starting point is 00:54:32 is absolutely impossible. Impossible, but peaceful divorce. It's like a peaceful, impossible because of resource war because North Dakota is producing energy because California is reliant on the Colorado River. It flows through nevada nevada could shut it down arizona could shut it down colorado could shut it down and then everyone
Starting point is 00:54:50 downstream is pulling out guns a lot of chinese were shutting down a river that was going into uh india that was a big that's a right tension spot between the two countries that's a national divorce supporter i i uh i i also agree with you i don't think that it would be completely peaceful, but who is going to be the unpeaceful one in that situation? China. What do you mean, who? China in a national divorce. What do you mean, who?
Starting point is 00:55:12 Like the federal government will tell the states they can't leave. But it's not about states. It's not about states leaving. The idea that civil war is, I say this 50 billion times, is going to follow the track of 1861 is an absurd notion. Like one time this thing happened and now everyone's like, that's how all civil wars will always be. No, more likely what will happen is Arizona will say we need to build a reservoir because of the drought impacts we've been having. So we're going to begin construction.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Nevada then says, if you do this, you will cut off our water supply for 16 months and we will die. And they'll say, if we don't do this, we will die. And then Nevada says, you are not cutting our water off. And then Arizona says, try us. There you go. The question is whether or not the federal government can be stretched so thin. People underestimate the power of U.S. federal law enforcement and of the military. If we are engaged in conflict on our border or internationally, and we actively are with U.S. troops being sent to Europe, and confidence is lost in the federal government for a variety of reasons, all that needs to happen is not that a state secedes, but that a state has a problem
Starting point is 00:56:24 that cannot be adjudicated properly. And there is no federal law enforcement to come and prevent violence from erupting. I don't know if that can happen or when it could happen or whatever. I'm saying in the event that a national divorce happens, it doesn't have to be that Nevada files a declaration of secession. It can be that Nevada justada just says guys we're not we're losing water and the biden administration has not responded to us they've told us they're strapped and they can't send law enforcement we're on our own now and then you get stated you get interstate conflict i'm wondering from your perspective josh like the thing i have issue i have with
Starting point is 00:56:59 libertarianism i feel like it doesn't jive with the presidency because it's such an authoritarian role like you're the military commander. You've, you're supposed, that's your main job is command the military. So like, how would you handle the military in, in with Taiwan? Or if there wasn't a, you said you wouldn't issue a draft. You would just let people like be on their own. Yeah. I think if you're going to join the military, it should always be on voluntary terms. We should never make anybody a war fighter because we say they have to be a war fighter.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I think that that goes way against the whole entire identity of consent. And so, yes, I'm definitely against that. Listen, I don't know. I know that since the Nixon era with the Taiwan and China thing, we've kind of had this double fail-safe where we're like, China, don't mess with Taiwan. We may go to war with you. And then with Taiwan, it was kind of like, listen, Taiwan, don't mess with China. We may not protect you. And it's worked since then. But now, obviously, it was kind of like, listen, Taiwan, don't mess with China. We may not protect you. And it's worked since then.
Starting point is 00:57:46 But now, obviously, it's not. And I think it's such a weird thing because we have, you know, we have a government that's saying Russia is not allowed to take a rogue province from Ukraine. But on the other hand, China is not allowed to take. I guess I'm mixing that up there. They're not allowed to have their rogue province in Taiwan, right? And Ukraine has to get theirs back or whatever, even though they're mostly ethnic Russians living there. And so I'm not going to go and play civil war around the country with our military. It's not worked out for us. It's not worked out for us it's not
Starting point is 00:58:25 worked out in the middle east um that for decades and decades and decades i think it's just it's it's it's bad i mean just i want to defend against an invasion yeah and that's and i'm not i'm not at all against national defense i think we we have a much better chance of defending against an invasion if we have our troops at home because no you know nobody's trying to come here and attack us since since 1930s right i mean pearl harbor 40s and it's and that's still technically very very far away yeah hawaii is very far yeah it was a military operation yeah it's far away and it's like when we're talking about taiwan taiwan is 7 000 miles away from here it's only nine what 90 miles from china you know what i mean if we go and have this this theater in the over there by taiwan we're gonna lose an aircraft carrier maybe and what's gonna happen what's joe biden gonna mean if we go and have this this theater in the over there by taiwan we're going
Starting point is 00:59:05 to lose an aircraft carrier maybe and what's going to happen what's joe biden going to do if we lose an aircraft carrier i mean it's going to get real ugly real quick it feels i want to so much like ukraine like it's just a little piece of land that's right next to their country that we have control of it's like dude what let's jump to this story from nbc news secretaries of state get ready for possible challenges to trump's ballot access arizona secretary of state is the latest to say his office is grappling with the potential effects of a move to block trump from the ballot okay you got arizona you got new hampshire you've got florida and it's going to keep happening my friends if in october of 2024
Starting point is 00:59:40 they announce at least one state donald trump's name has been removed for he is an insurrectionist under the 14th amendment do not be surprised they've indicted him they've indicted his lawyers this is not above them i think at that point things get bad but tucker carlson was saying that they're not going to let trump win they won't't do COVID. They'll start war with Russia, which we're already in, but they'll formally declare. Do you think they would be beyond that? It is that it is beyond them to do this. These Democrats, what they're doing now in Arizona is they're going, oh, gee, golly, it's such a hard question. I mean, we want to be fair, but Donald Trump did an insurrection.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Right. Guess we got to remove his name. And they're talking about taking his name off the primary. Yes. This is why I think all the Republicans should drop out because trump is the clear front runner and if arizona or new hampshire or florida takes his name off the primary ballot and this results in say vivek or de santis winning neither of them will win in the general and it will cause a major rupture and split giving the election to joe biden maybe but chuck todd loves vivek i watched that interview do you guys see those guys chuck like really respects that guy i think he's like chuck is terrified of trump and annoyed with trump and it's like yo this guy's actually smart and is has a plan and he's interesting to listen to i uh i
Starting point is 01:01:01 don't i don't get the feeling that people that would be considered mainstream are giving the Vague any serious respect. They're claiming that he said 9-11 was an inside job. Last weekend, he was on Chuck Todd. It was pretty cool. At first, he was a little confrontational, like combative. And then Chuck started to soften up. And you can tell he's got a lot of respect for him. So what do you think about Trump having his name removed from the ballot?
Starting point is 01:01:22 I think it's definitely not above the Democrats to try and do that. Beneath? Beneath, yes. And trust me, as someone who's had to go around the country and fight for ballot access for our candidates for the last six years, I mean, it sucks. But yeah, I don't think it's beneath the Democrats. I think they'll definitely do,
Starting point is 01:01:39 I think they'll definitely try. There's no doubt. What do you think happens if, in the general October, they take Trump's name off of, say, Georgia, Wisconsin and Arizona? I mean, Trump's Trump's not going to win. But how does this country react? I mean, I think it's going to be violent. Yeah, 100 percent. I think it's going to get violent.
Starting point is 01:01:54 You think January 6 will look like a cakewalk, I believe. What is a cakewalk? It was a game. It was a game we used to play in elementary school where you would win cakes. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, it was a game we used to play in the school where you would win cakes. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, it was a game we used to play in the – I don't remember how we played it. With blindfolds? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I honestly don't remember, but I know that it was a game where you won cakes. People brought cakes, and then you played this game, and people won different cakes. I don't even think violence – It's a dance. That's necessarily the first thing that will happen. I think if just people just start doing massive occupations of places, that's going to be the scary thing. You're just going to see thousands of souls not even necessarily violent or
Starting point is 01:02:30 angry, just occupying places. I think it'll be really ugly. It started as get-togethers on slave plantations where people would have dance contests to win cake. Oh, cool. We played it in school when I was a kid.
Starting point is 01:02:45 You can't do it now because the school is going to say it's got slave connotations. The reason I brought up Chuck Todd seeming to enjoy Vivek is because I think this is understood. They're going to remove Trump from the ballot. They're going to stop. I mean, Trump's already decided he's not going to be the president. We have a deep state. Get it through your head. And they're trying to soften Vivek on the people right now so that they're not so upset and they have someone to vote.
Starting point is 01:03:04 I don't trust. I don't trust Vivek. I don't trust Vivek. I don't trust Vivek. But they just want them to vote for him. They just want him to suck it up and vote for him. Listen, I think that, first of all, I've called Vivek out on Twitter a million times for a debate. If you're watching this, I'd love to debate you anytime,
Starting point is 01:03:16 but I know that you'll get kicked out of the primary debates if you do that. I understand. Is that a rule or something? Apparently, I did not know this, but I've been challenging him to a debate for a while. He said some things in the debates that i take issue with and i'd like to talk to him at least just talk to him on my show about it and uh and uh someone actually posted the rnc's rules that says uh if you uh if any candidate takes place uh takes part in any of
Starting point is 01:03:40 the unsanctioned debates around the country they will be immediately removed what if you guys are just here having a conversation yeah that would be different and i'd be okay with it it's not a debate right yeah long form panel i'd be down but i don't think that they will do it because i mentioned him talking with dave smith and he was more like oh yeah he was like i'm only going to go for the real candidates trump yeah well you're not gonna he's not even gonna get within 10 feet of trump that's the trump doesn't want to and i said that i said you know i'm likely to be on the ballot as a libertarian well yeah i guess that would change things and and and i said that the the the republican debate the primary debate was just a vp interview that's really what i think the vix great yeah um i don't i don't think it's perfect i don't i don't think
Starting point is 01:04:18 any politician is out there with like their actual diary you know broadcasting their thoughts a lot of what they say is well-crafted planning. You know, you go to someone like Vivek and he runs a biotech firm and you say, what's your position on Aleppo? He's going to be like, to be completely honest, I haven't thought, I don't know enough about it. I haven't thought enough about it. And I'd be, it'd be difficult for me to give you an answer.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Vivek is the kind of guy who would say something like that on the spot, but go research it research it and then come back and give you a general cursory response so what that means to me is when you ask him on these debate stages like how do you feel about medicare and medicaid he'll give you an answer but it's like not it's not his specialty right so he's giving you the political response but uh just from meeting the guy we've had him on irl twice once with me once with seamus and we've had him on the culture war i mean it feels like you're talking to a real person yeah it doesn't like we've had politicians and i i cringe without naming anybody you have the politicians on the show that are playing the politician game and it is so annoying it's like dude don't come on this show if you're not going to be definitive on your positions
Starting point is 01:05:26 and your answers. No, Vivek outright was like, he's just like chilling. And I'm like, what about service guaranteeing citizenship? And he's like, yeah. And then we talked about the idea that if you want to vote in this country, after you, male or female, sign up for the selective service, you get a voter ID card.
Starting point is 01:05:41 And that's it. I really like that idea. I don't think it's perfect, but I like the idea. I like the idea as well. I don't think that limiting voting is a winning argument. I don't think that there's an appetite in the United States for it. You don't want to abolish the 19th Amendment? I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:06:00 So, yes. There is a difference between what I want and what I think there is an appetite for in the United States. There's a significant difference. Your ideals aren't necessarily your platform. Phil, Phil, Phil, I got a plan for you guys. It's really, really simple. Let me hear it. It is called the Omnibus Bill.
Starting point is 01:06:15 And what you do is you write a single sentence or you write a sentence that says citizens of the United States may only vote with a voter ID received after registering for the Selective Service, irrespective of biological sex. And then you just slide it right in the middle of those 6000 pages and watch them sign it. I mean, problem solved. You have a point. No one's going to read it. I don't I don't I don't support. I don't think that that's a good way to pass it either. I would love to see, you know, a return to the idea that there are things that are acceptable for the federal government to legislate and there are things that are not. And most things fall under the not category.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And that's essentially the goal of limiting people's vote. Right. Or the idea. The idea is there are things that people are voting on that they're voting you know in ways that harm the country and stuff so like i get it that are people are like oh we want to we would like to limit the the damage that's possible by the whims of people voting because essentially that's what you're talking about people people vote on whims um with emotions and i understand but i don't think that that's something that the right should really try to seriously engage in because i think that it is a total loser. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's such a shutdown of morale. Like 90 million people will be like, what the hell are you talking about? Even the people that are voting. The same people that will say, oh, this is a terrible idea and blah, blah, blah. Those are the same people that will never read a goddamn book to vote. Like they will go and they will vote for most idiot for the most idiotic reasons they'll vote because they like the guy's smile or they like you know she's whatever they will vote for the absolute most awful awful reasons but then they'll sit there and be like no i need to have
Starting point is 01:07:56 my vote counted because you know i gotta vote for the guy with the nicest smile because i can't be bothered that happens all the time which is the why that's the whole reason to say you should limit votes yeah i think after the tv was invented like there's a big shift in presidential candidates became yep drastically more attractive well that's the famous story that nixon on radios they said he won and on tv they said he lost because on tv he was sweaty oh that interview is worthwhile that debate is awesome he was so sweaty and kennedy came in so cool and it's same thing with clinton in clinton's first debate he looked like a like a moron and then he must have had somebody be like look this is where he messed up this is where he messed up this is where he messed up and he he examined it in his second debate dominated george bush you know why trump
Starting point is 01:08:36 crushes it in the debates because he's he's not giving you that canned political garbage sure because people are so tired and sick of oh deep water horizon as an oil spill oil spill and the executive comes out goes we're sorry we work really hard and with your help and assistance we will clean oh shut up yeah we know the moment you went back you're sweating and you're like how much is my bonus going down and then donald trump goes on stage and just interrupts and just says whatever and and it's like, well, there you go. I agree. I agree 100%.
Starting point is 01:09:07 I definitely sympathize more with somebody who feels like a normal person than a canned response. My campaign is a blue-collar working class campaign who's trying to appeal to the middle class, so I get it 100%. I like the fact that he's 6'3 and 215. Yeah. I think that's really true. Definitely true. Very true. We've got to jump to this story, ladies and gentlemen.15. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's definitely true.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah. Very true. We gotta jump to this story, ladies and gentlemen. It's a sad story. A sad story from the Daily Mail. Mitch McConnell freezes again. Republican Senator 81
Starting point is 01:09:35 sparks health concerns by suddenly stopping for 30 seconds. I'm gonna play for you this video, and it's very strange. And let's make sure we have the uh the audio
Starting point is 01:09:45 check this out i'm sorry i had a hard time hearing you that's okay what are your thoughts on running for re-election in 2026 what are my thoughts about what running for re-election in 2026 no he's not going he is yes he went yes the response that was a quick i'm sorry we're gonna need a minute to keep playing if this just gets crazier. He's not incapacitated. I think they're trying to move him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Look at his hands on the podium. He's holding on. He's gripping. Because he's going to fall over. Look how hard he's holding on to the podium. He's trying not to collapse. Somebody else have a question? Please speak up.
Starting point is 01:10:43 This guy's stroking out. It wasn't a stroke. Look at him holding on. he's about to fall look and she's holding his back she can't get his arm off the podium yeah it's terrible whoa the moving his head around and he's looking it's not a stroke that's not what a stroke looks like he's he's I think his blood pressure may be dropping he may be about to pass out. Where is anybody trying to help him? I would be so concerned if I was standing there.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Speak up. What efforts is Daniel Cameron going to have to make on the campaign trials when Kentucky is over in November? Senator Daniel Cameron, do you have a comment on Daniel Cameron? Well, I think the the governor's very close. Dude, he's fried. He's out of there. Why would they leave him there? Because they don't want to show the camera that he's sick.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I don't... The craziest point is this. When she's... I'm sorry, I'm here with a question, Senator. Running for re-election in 2026? Okay. Yes. But he doesn't answer it i know just yes like whoa and then his hands holding on for dear life he was holding himself up he looks like he has full-blown dementia to me and i and i i worked in skilled nursing homes for a decade and that's what it looks like it's the same thing joe biden does he does the same crap he's sundowning it's he's like oh and probably the the uh bursts of rage yes that joe biden does
Starting point is 01:12:11 and the ice cream right the ice cream man we used to give patients ice cream when when they started having their sundowning moment towards the evening give them ice cream and they'd forget all about it and so i see the guy with the ice cream and i'm like he's sundowning man yeah he's got dementia he's sundowning there's no so there was that famous video where joe biden snaps at the reporter or whatever who asks about i forgot the issue was and he's like jobs it was jobs he's yelling yeah and it's uh what i was told is people were suffering from dementia no they can't know like they're cognizant of the failing a question was asked of me and i can't put it together and it's frustrating being unable and so they get really angry and just go
Starting point is 01:12:50 and they have these outbursts sometimes violently right they get really angry this is the weakest i've ever seen a politician in the united states have you seen feinstein yeah they're all they're all she's like in a wheelchair like barely alive yeah yeah she's like they're carting around she gave power of attorney to her daughter and she's just being wheeled around and they're they're like now that you're back are you gonna watch like i never left it's like ma'am you've been gone for a long time i will say that uh i've seen a lot more politicians looking bad yeah over the last couple years than i've ever seen the old in my entire life uh or you know maybe their adrenochrome supply ran out. I wonder if COVID messed people up.
Starting point is 01:13:27 The old guard doesn't want to let go of power. I don't know if this is like this. I'm younger here. I don't know if in the 80s and 70s we saw something similar of these older politicians that wouldn't let go. I never saw that. I didn't give public speeches like this.
Starting point is 01:13:40 What would the founding fathers have us do? I don't know. I think the issue is mitch mcconnell is just uh he he's he's waiting for the genesis device to be repaired in the basement of the capitol building to rejuvenate him back to a youthful 20 i think he'll then masquerade as an intern what a loser to think that this is what the most important thing in his life what do you what do you mean by what what would they do if they had a guy with dementia in congress like go home man go would they grab him and had a guy with dementia in Congress? Go home, man. Would they grab him and pull him out of there and be like, you're not allowed back in?
Starting point is 01:14:09 I don't imagine. No, that's not true. There was a bunch of politicians who were whacked out. There was like a Supreme Court justice who was out of his mind. There's also, there's methods. Like, if you want to know, all you got to do is look in the Constitution. Like, there are methods to take people, to remove people from office, impeachment and stuff. Like, all, like, there's a lot of times where like people are like oh well what would they do it's like
Starting point is 01:14:27 all of the questions can be answered by reading the constitution so if someone gets dementia you impeach them well you you're just saying the answers in there for the president was 25 25th amendment or something like that but there's there's recalls there's there's a way to do i don't know if it's it might not technically be an impeachment because i think that's actually the trial to remove them from office so So there might be other indictment. Yeah. OK, so it probably wouldn't be called an impeachment, but it'd be something there are definitely methods to get people that are in that are incapacitated or cannot fulfill the office. There are methods that the founders had to take them out of office.
Starting point is 01:14:56 It's just that there needs to be an appetite for it among the population and among the people that are actually in power that means people have to get in touch with their congress people and their senators and be like hey or whatever if it's just congress it might be maybe it's just a congress person or whatever but you didn't get in touch with them be like hey this is a problem for me i'm a constituent and i and this is a problem for me so until people actually act nothing will happen i will say that correlation is not causation but i have seen a a lot more politicians like this since the demise of Jeffrey Epstein, for sure. So it could be an adrenochrome thing. Now that Epstein shut down, Mitch is like... All of our.
Starting point is 01:15:34 I mean, we're watching politicians do stuff like this on a daily basis. I'm like, you know, the notes not... Now, hold on there a minute. You realize media matters are going to take what you just said seriously. That's okay. And it's going to be in the Independent and the Daily Beast. Listen, I want to be very clear about my presidential campaign. We're running a very serious campaign, but I'm the first libertarian that's going to tell you as a candidate for libertarian president that I am not going to win the presidency.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Okay? I'm not under any illusion they're going to let us in the White House. We want 5% to change the political landscape in America. What does it do? It gives us national major party status. It will include us in the debates in the next election. It makes the federal government have to do all the same things for the Republicans and Democrats, for the Libertarians as well.
Starting point is 01:16:13 And then you run like a superstar? Yeah. And then we run a superstar. They get in the debates. Then we start being a party that someone can trust. So I'm not going to come out here and lie to everybody and be like, whoa, any Libertarian candidate that's telling you he's going to win the presidency this year is a liar or suffering from delusions of grandeur i mean we're we're my goal is five percent change
Starting point is 01:16:32 the political landscape for the rest of eternity in the united states make another national political party then you have a a candidate that's actually circling the waters making these people have to start um uh governing like they campaign everything's different after that everything what's the difference between running a third party and running independent uh third so third so we fought for ballot access as libertarians already we're going to get on the ballot um and our party will have we'll be on the ballot at least 40 something states we may not get all 50 this year because we don't have the money but the fact that there's already it's just another cost. So it just depends. There's some states that are
Starting point is 01:17:09 really bad. Like Tennessee needs like 200,000 signatures to get on the ballot. We've been fighting Tennessee ballot access laws for ever since I've been in the party since like 2010. New York is very hard. Alabama has been very hard. Some states we have it already and it's easy and some states we get it by running smaller down ballot candidates that get a certain percentage and we've gotten it that way. So you need signatures, not necessarily money signatures and or money. Yeah, or money or one or
Starting point is 01:17:35 the other. Some states are like that. Some states are just signatures. What about taking over a state? New Hampshire is there's been working on that for a long time and I think it's I think it's a I love the free state project. I think those guys have done a lot of really great stuff there i don't know i'm sure phil would agree in some ways right i think they're doing great things yeah i endorse the i endorse the free state project for sure i think that's a very smart idea i talked about doing it in iowa too i think that i was a very very very uh conservative liberty loving
Starting point is 01:18:02 state too west virginia is but it's got to be cleaned up. Yes. There's a lot of red tape. We didn't send a single Democrat to Washington from Iowa. Not one. Wow. Not a single one. You're welcome, America.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I feel like West Virginia is ready to have a big evolution. Yes. Yeah, it was a Democrat state for a long time. What was it? Riley Moore. We've had him on the show several times. He's the first Republican treasurer. He's been Democrat.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Yeah, he's fantastic. And he skates. Skateboards. Nice. He skated downstairs. He did a kickflip. Yeah, super cool. It would be cool to have some sort of power in the state government.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I don't care about political power. It is interesting running a show like this and and knowing as many people as i do because it's it's it's it's it's it's an interesting perspective that i did not have when i was younger when it comes to the idea of like lobbying and how this stuff works like quite literally there are there are people who are in office that will come on this show and have a conversation with me and those exchange of ideas can influence laws and other parts it's like it's really it's really that simple often you know just literally talking to a politician and they can draft something and they can change things west virginia has i think like 1.5 or so million people maybe it's 1.6 maybe it's 1.3 i'm not sure so it actually is substantially easier
Starting point is 01:19:20 in a state like west virginia or even new hampshire where the population is smaller i was smaller than west virginia i believe right or right around the same but i during covet i went down to the in a state like West Virginia or even New Hampshire where the population is smaller. Iowa is smaller than West Virginia, I believe. Right around the same. But during COVID, I went down to the statehouse there and lobbied with these guys. I got interviews. I did interviews with state legislators. We have great state legislatures.
Starting point is 01:19:35 That's why I want to do the Martinsburg Project. Yes. It's like, I'm not going to go for a state. I'm just going to go for a very small city. County. Well, it's Berkeley County. Okay. Yeah, and then martinsburg
Starting point is 01:19:45 is the uh is the town but uh we've got properties in west virginia in jefferson and berkeley county so this is the eastern panhandle you've got basically what's happening is uh what i would describe as a woke incursion this is maga country unquestionably right now where we do the studio we're actually in maryland and because we operate out of the tri-state which is maryland virginia west virginia but we're setting up all the new studio stuff all the new stores everything is going to be in west virginia it is in west virginia and what we're finding is that the locals who are in these towns are getting increasingly frustrated with the people from dc who are coming out here and masquerading as maga but secretly trying to
Starting point is 01:20:26 implement woke and communist policies and marxism and stuff like that we saw it in local schools the people would run for school board and be like we want you know church and faith and family and then as soon as they get in they'd be like all right bring in all the weird you know porn and everything for the kids heretics for sure yeah i mean you call them a heretic but like it's just they're subversives they're masquerading as right you know we're locals here and we want to do good and then what they do they have drag shows with with children in west virginia so my my thought is like as long as we're here and we're investing i encourage everybody to come out to martinsburg berkeley county and what we'll do is effectively the free city project where we just will help
Starting point is 01:21:04 revitalize a small town yeah there's there's legacy families who have businesses there they're great grandparents founded and passed down to them who have been complaining about how this wokeness keeps creeping in they're seeing signs everywhere these events are popping up and they feel like they're losing i've had city councilmen say they're they're passing these pride resolutions against the wishes of the town thousands of people come out protest, but it doesn't matter because they still sneak in and start passing these things. And I'm like, then we need to tell them no. That's the communist playbook, man.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I mean, they've been telling us they were going to do these things for years and years and years. I mean, decades, generations. Almost like having a centralized place where people go and sign some papers to affect everyone else is defunct right it's it's just we have so much respect uh the the um the constitutional republic republicans and i don't mean republican political party i mean those who believe in the constitutional republic all americans are republicans they are not we all are of the republic therefore republican yes we are. That is incorrect because right now in places like Charlestown and in Martinsburg, in smaller
Starting point is 01:22:10 port, other other areas in West Virginia, you have multicultural Democrats, people who believe that the system should not be run by a constitution, but by the 50, 50.1% majority. And so and also it's not even about democracy in a great deal it's about we are the better people who can who should rule over you yes so they lie to get power and then they vote for things against the wishes of the public to the consternation and protest and they don't care and the only way you change it is if you get organized and we have say like a free city project and we push back. I interrupted you. You were talking about centralized government in the republic.
Starting point is 01:22:50 And because I think it's a bad I think sending people to a building somewhere to go sign paperwork to affect everybody else. Why cut you off and said that we're all Republican because we live in a republic to carry on what I'm talking about. You have Marxists, people who believe in the concept of what they call multicultural democracy, and you have people who believe in constitutional republicanism. The people who are in West Virginia, for the most part, see their city members of the city council. I shouldn't say all of West Virginia. I can only talk about where I'm at. And they passed in Charlestown a pride resolution recognizing Pride Month. Everyone's pissed off. They had a massive protest. All of these people protesting, marching. But how do they protest? They silently pray as they march the city. But the people on
Starting point is 01:23:31 the council don't care. All they care about is getting that political power. So you have all of these people who are really angry about what's going on and they live there, but they respect the idea of the constitutional republic. So they don't do anything out of line they simply say well we better vote next time what are the marxists and the multicultural uh democracists whatever to call them doing saying just keep lying to them because we're smarter than they are and then we can make change and the cops will do as we say olinsky tactics for sure and it's hands down they've been doing this for a long long time here it's subversion they get in they said we're going to get into your institutions we're going to get into your kids daycares we're going to get into
Starting point is 01:24:07 your health care we're going to get into your government and we're going to take it over that's what they've been telling us they're going to do that people love to the people especially like centrist people they like to say that the right has been uh chicken littling about socialists and leftists and stuff like that um but the evidence is that there are marxists all throughout our society in places uh like in places of education you know knowledge creation in schools uh and in the federal government there's a straight up marxist that just wouldn't want to see in colorado and he's calling for an actual cultural revolution these are real serious problems in america that have dramatic consequences worldwide because the united states is the last place where
Starting point is 01:24:53 there is a significant voice to have a control to have government controlled and small now it's not the majority voice still currently both republicans and democrats want to have a bigger government than i'm comfortable with but of all the places on earth the most people that are looking for a limited government happen to be in the united states the fbi well not originally but in the 50s mccarthyism went hard against communists i mean to the point where yeah they would blacklist people right mostly so right, mostly. So you think so? Yes. So would you advocate for us using government, a secret police force to?
Starting point is 01:25:28 No, no. So now it's not a good thing, but then it was? No, he was right, but the tactics were bad. Yeah, the tactics weren't great. I think that, listen,
Starting point is 01:25:36 I, you know, in my head, I take a very Hoppe approach to this. I think that, you know, if you want to have a libertarian society,
Starting point is 01:25:42 you can have no tolerance at all in your libertarian society for communism i believe what does that mean hoppa yeah hans herman hoppa is a oh yeah he's a he's a writer who talks a lot about libertarian just like no communist celeb yeah i mean you can't you know he takes a little further than that but yeah he says that you know in a in a uh libertarian society you cannot you cannot suffer the communists they have to be physically removed like not even a communist party not at all because in canada they have a communist party but they have it's not a libertarian my view has been uh i would say maybe like six years ago my
Starting point is 01:26:16 view was i believe in free speech even if you're a communist or a fascist or whatever we must defend free speech now my position is if you believe in free speech then i will defend your free speech if you don't believe people should have free speech then i will defend your request to not have free speech and not help you when you get silenced that's self-defense my friend i mean absolutely i mean i'm just giving them what they want yeah you know so you know libertarian guy being like i should be allowed to speak i'll be like you're right you should and someone says no he shouldn't like then you shouldn't either i believe everyone should get what they vote for
Starting point is 01:26:46 you know what i mean so like san francisco yeah republicans you can see this video is video at san francisco where like the lady i'm born and raised there i think it was sf lady goat parks her car and walks inside and when she comes out all of her windows are broken and someone took a dump in the car and oh my gosh five minutes you know who yeah you know who turned san francisco into that right who was it gavin newsom he was the mayor of san francisco that when i was a kid i grew up in oakland right across the bridge one of the greatest big cities in the country so much fun to hang out it's pretty safe it was not what it is today gavin newsom is the one who made it actually really legitimately a shitty city because they have poo maps right that you can see all the poops he's the one department
Starting point is 01:27:24 in a poo department he's the one that did that and instead of you know the the state going hey this guy is horrible absolutely terrible we gotta get rid of him they made him the governor you know you know what i love about san francisco when i was there it's uh it's five bucks to come in to san francisco and it's free to leave yeah well and and but you know why they do that it's because they want you to leave and they want to make sure people who are poor and low income have a harder time getting in. It's a pressure system. A lot of good skating there, though.
Starting point is 01:27:50 What's that? A lot of good skating there, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of good hills. So how would you deal with the communist revolution that we're sensing, like if not McCarthyism and the blacklisting of people that are involved? Yeah, well, what do you do?
Starting point is 01:28:02 Do you round them up? I don't think we can do that as Americans. i think that i think that we we need to fight the culture war i'm sure that we can't do that as americans yeah sorry i guess i should have said that yeah i don't think we i we definitely can't do that as americans but i do believe that we can win the culture war by fighting in the culture war but you saw that uh josie uh redhead libertarian had that post a long time ago talking about the 1964 civil rights act explicitly states that communists are not human yeah not in that sense it says they're they're they're exempt yeah that these provisions do not apply to people who are communists members of communist political organizations meaning that you are allowed to discriminate against someone
Starting point is 01:28:39 for being a communist it's so crazy because we're all in this together this communist no no i'm saying that's the communist mantra wait a minute it's so easy to compassionately fall into believing it or feeling right we're it's all of us man we're all in this and then as soon as you get power it's you right that's the part of what the left does intentionally and people hear it all the time but it's almost as if the word is lost meaning the left specifically the far left is intentionally subversive so you look at the nazis right you look at the the the white nationalist people like nick fuentes and stuff nick fuentes is dying for people to hear him say exactly what he believes he will tell you that
Starting point is 01:29:18 he's racist he will tell you that he believes that there should be a policy that gets rid of you know people that he considers undesirable. He will tell you right out. The left is going to lie. They're going to tell you that, no, this is for democracy. We all get a, a say and et cetera,
Starting point is 01:29:35 et cetera, et cetera. They will lie and tell you all kinds of good things. And then once they're in a position of power, the boot comes down. So as much as the national socialists and the nazis are terrible commies are worse because at least you can identify the nazis you can see them put and be like okay these are the people we can't listen to and it's clear because they'll tell you what
Starting point is 01:29:57 they believe the commies will lie to you so it's like well i don't know is this guy just a democrat because they're going to tell you oh well i'm you know i'm a liberal i'm a progressive no you're a commie you're an authoritarian that will kill people given the authority given the power the communists will lie their way into being a teacher at kids absolutely show them their show them your i got an idea absolutely i have an idea i know what we could do we can create a communist utopia not not hold on not everywhere but we just find like maybe a thousand acres maybe in wyoming or something or montana some federal controlled land we you know put a big fence around it we call it communist utopia everyone's equal everyone gets access and we say you are free to go there if you want and we will operate this this jurisdiction exactly as
Starting point is 01:30:41 you would like it to be so diversity equity inclusion committee hearings and there will be a base level of funding provided for the initial startup and then all the communists will choose to go to that commune where they will live as agrarian people and they'll be killing each other in two years it'll be it'll be bad right yeah absolutely killing each other and eating people probably there's no's no doubt in my mind. I mean, the Soviets literally had to make posters in Ukraine during the, I think it was in the 30s or something, during the Hall of Demorsion. Don't eat your kids. Don't eat your kids.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Like, come on. That's crazy. I want to go back to the term constitutional Republican. I really liked that term. I I've, I'm doing a, I'm recording and editing an audio book for the great David Benner, who wrote Thomas Payne,
Starting point is 01:31:34 the life of radicalism books out on Amazon, but I'll have the audio book out soon. And I never really, you never really hear that term constitutional Republican or Republicanism in, in 2023, but it's all throughout that book it's so important because the the subversive thing about naming these political parties the republican party or the democrat doesn't mean that they're they value the republic
Starting point is 01:31:53 at all you can call your party whatever you want it doesn't mean that you are that just like these stupid bills the save puppies act when they're so but it does now interesting sometimes like you find the people that are geared towards the constitution to tend towards the republican party but and that the democrats are more about mob rule and mob control but that doesn't mean that they value democracy if they're trying to shut people's voices down they're not democrats but but democracy is the oppression of the majority but you still let the others talk you still have to let them all speak no you don't in order for democracy to reign you would otherwise it's tainted we could talk so democracy has given us what we have today we've not had democracy right well not entirely not mob democracy but not even i mean democracy 51 can take the food
Starting point is 01:32:38 away from the other 49 we right we've always been a constitutional republic with elected representatives so we've like some states have the proposition system which is you know democratic to a great degree but what got us here is liberalism liberalism is a great thing but too many people just said you know i'm gonna i'm gonna mind my own business and not fight right i think what i i i don't blame liberalism i think it the class the truest sense of liberalism the founding fathers and their views classical liberalism should be defended i just think the issue is weak men make hard times and our the generations before us allowed communists to come
Starting point is 01:33:16 in and do these things corporations because they kept because this is the point it's like what i was saying about what's going on in west virginia the people who live in these places believe in the constitutional republic so they follow the rules the marxists do not and don't follow the rules it's like playing a game of monopoly where you're watching the opponent just take money from the bank and you're like you can't do that they go i can and you go okay i guess right well i would never do that it's like well no no crap you're losing they're cheating that's what people tell me when i say i want to ban the, get rid of the NFA and ban the NICS, right?
Starting point is 01:33:48 And people are like, well, then criminals are going to be able to do this and do that and do that. And I'm like, they're already doing that. Go to Chicago, man. They got 50 round magazines on their Glocks with an illegal switch. Yeah, full auto. All it does is keep me from not being able to get a switch on my Glock. I am so jealous.
Starting point is 01:34:03 I'm so jealous. We all are. We all are. I to switch on my jealous. I'm so jealous. I want machines on clocks. They have kids running around with full auto glocks with extended magazines. And I can't have one. And we can't have one because it's illegal. Come on. Those laws don't do anything but make sure that those criminals, thugs,
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Starting point is 01:35:58 i'm not your buddy guy says it's fairly unnerving knowing the fate the fate humanity and whether liberty will mean anything going forward will be determined fairly soon here. It's being determined as we speak. It is. That's right. History is happening all around you, my friends. It is unnerving, but are you ready to fight? I mean, that's really what the question comes down to.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Are you ready to push back? Are you ready to continue voting the way you've been voting for the last 50 years? I mean, look, you know, let's go back five years let's go back to 2018 let's go back 2019 and i'm sitting in my little desk saying like food prices are going up there's going to be food shortages there's conflict happening you guys need to speak up i wonder now how many people who heard me say that and said i don't know i don't want to risk it are now looking at their grocery bill being like i wish wish I said something five years ago. I'm one of those people that spoke up because of you.
Starting point is 01:36:49 I wouldn't be here with this show if you didn't want to get it started. There you go. But I just think if more people in, say, 2019 or 2020 did come out and say, I will not stand for these things, then Donald Trump would have stayed president and we would be in a very very different spot no no no no money going to ukraine for this crazy war we'd have better security on the southern border donald trump was bringing manufacturing back he's far from a perfect candidate but we got more peace in the middle east no new wars a lot of really good things i would i would be willing to bet a large sum of money it's never you can't prove it but i'd be willing to bet that if donald trump was president right now you would not be crying over your your groceries you would not be seeing these
Starting point is 01:37:28 tiktok videos of people being like i can't afford this anymore i was crying over toilet paper when donald trump was still in office covid's a different story and you can blame trump for a lot of what happened with code for sure but i just mean like if people just were more active and spoke up more and and pushed back socially. Huge groundswell of change. It happens so fast. It happens horizontally as well as vertically. 42,000 votes was all Trump needed in three states.
Starting point is 01:37:54 That's it. Yeah. It's going to take a big push for sure. But I think Trump's on track to win. If you look at the polling right now, he's rivaling Biden. Biden's up by 0.8% in the RCP average. McLaughlin has Trump up by one or two points and in swing states up by like six or seven. A lot's going to change from now until then.
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Starting point is 01:39:02 you know it's really cool to see all right waffle sensei says just wanted to make a point about vivek getting booed at the debate he gets booed when he says i'm the only candidate not bought and paid for when he says climate change is a hoax they cheer check the tapes okay all right they booed trump too when he would talk about when he was talking about all the donors in the audience and he was like these are the donors that are booing me that i'm talking about all right europa chronicle says tim on august 16th the fbi killed a second disabled veteran theodore deschler in a pre-dawn raid in the two weeks since the fbi has been completely silent they haven't given the reason for the raid please help shine a light on the issue interesting let's see here give me one second there we go all right where are we at oh okay there we go youtube likes to do this thing where
Starting point is 01:40:00 it refreshes yep all right neglect. Neglectful Sausage says, Reboot Robot Mitch. Maga, make animatronics great again. Hmm. God's Other Son says, I want to see Vivek run as VP, mostly because I want to see a debate between him and Kamala. Yikes. That would be fun to watch.
Starting point is 01:40:19 That would be crazy. She'd get squashed real bad. He's very articulate, for sure. Even if I'm very wearyashed real bad he's very articulate for sure even if i if you even if i'm very aware weary of the things he's saying i i think i really want to see him debate trump because i think competition's only good he's so good on that stage and it'll force trump to be better you know a lot of people it's gonna shut him down it'll never happen it'll be fun i think he can roll with the punches unlike most other people on the stage though he's not gonna be like chris christie no that's for sure plus like trump trump didn't know he couldn't shut down the fbi because his deep state advisors told him no you can't fire people individually
Starting point is 01:40:55 trump and he just gave he didn't read the law he just gave up vivek will annihilate him on that that he doesn't read yeah that's true that's true what i gotta read for not a statesman i'm not here to read loyal snoop doge says this country could use a revival of mccarthyism i mean at least the attitude yeah we definitely need we definitely need that culture and attitude back for sure it's time the the time to be uh weary and and alert about communism has come and passed it's time to start pushing back on stuff. There's a significant problem in the United States, and it's not getting any better by saying, oh, it's not a problem. You know the Pirates of the Caribbean where he's like,
Starting point is 01:41:31 you believe in scary movies? Do you believe in cultural revolutions yet? Jake Phillips. Jake Phillips says Tarrio and his lawyer blamed Trump for January 6th in court. Some of us think his sentencing got delayed so he can testify against Trump. I doubt he'll get pardoned.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Interesting. That would be an interesting. Yeah. I won't be surprised. I mean, Enrique Tarrio wasn't even there. That's the crazy thing. He got arrested before or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. It was the day before. I guarantee you that Trump's not going to pardon him at that point. I think it was the day before he was arrested.
Starting point is 01:42:02 I can't remember, but yeah, he wasn't. There's a conspiracy theory that he's some kind of informant already. He was before. I got to clarify my earlier statement. Donald Trump does read. I just don't think he's ever read the Constitution or laws or anything like that. You think Donald Trump reads? People in the comments are like, he reads.
Starting point is 01:42:20 So like every other politician. Of course he reads. He's not an illiterate. How many Americans do you think have actually read the Constitution? Yeah, exactly. He may be able to read, but he does not read. He watches TV. He probably reads tweets.
Starting point is 01:42:29 When people talk about the Constitution, they are only ever referring to the Bill of Rights. Most people. Most, yeah. I would, like, 99%. Yeah. Because of the Constitution, we have blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, are you talking about, like, the distribution of powers? Are you talking about, like, Article 2?
Starting point is 01:42:44 Are you talking about Article 5? What are you talking about in the Constitution powers? Are you talking about Article 2? Are you talking about Article 5? What are you talking about in the Constitution? Oh, you're talking about Amendment No. 1. Yeah. Article 2nd, 3rd. It's 4th, 5th. That's it. That's all we know.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I like the 3rd. The 3rd's great. There's an argument. We were talking about this. The 3rd Amendment doesn't just mean that soldiers can't be quartered in your home. Right. It means you are free from government influence in your own home. Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Supposed to be. Right. Then the right then the internet appeared right well first telephones appeared and why the issue is the government can't do anything in your house it's not about a soldier being there it's also interpreted as or it should be interpreted as the government can't say something like we need to put this listening device in your house because we're in the middle of an investigation might keep the listening device in their house and then they use it on you when you're in your house and they read your keystrokes and crap my fate my favorite are the people who are like oh we have to interpret the this amendment this way or this this uh the bill of rights this way because um you know the
Starting point is 01:43:36 founders didn't give us any guidelines on them i'm like have you know the federalist papers anti i mean they literally explain why they were doing these things in separate documents so there is explanations of these things if you just go and look them up you know um and there's a lot of books about those other papers that that help you learn how to read them so i like this chat from mistress depp in the regular old chat saying maga swami vivek maga swami we were saying that trump would call him uh rama swampy yeah he would for sure yeah he'd find he'd find some interesting but but vivek's playing Vivek Magaswami. We were saying that Trump would call him Rama Swampy. Yeah, he would for sure.
Starting point is 01:44:08 He'd find some interesting nickname. But Vivek's playing the campaign very, very well. And now, would Trump said something like he would consider him for VP? Oh, lately, yeah. But Vivek said no way. I forget who I was listening to today, but I was listening to someone talking to Trump. And he was talking about how Vivek was the only guy that he would be nice to. But also, Vivek was the only guy that, that he would kind of like, would be nice to, but also the,
Starting point is 01:44:26 the only guy that hasn't attacked him. He's also the only guy that raised his hand to pardon Trump until, until DeSantis looked around and realized, Oh, to be fair, Nikki Haley quickly does raise her hand halfway. The fake goes right up as high as possible. Nikki Haley then raises her hand and then it cascades to the right.
Starting point is 01:44:42 And then Ron looks, looks, and then, you know, Ron explained himself in another video, the right, and then Ron looks, looks, and then half-up. Ron explained himself in another video, which probably didn't get nearly as many views, where he said, we already decided beforehand we weren't going to do the stupid hand raise thing, and then when they asked the question and they did it, I'm like, oh my god, you guys are really doing this? All right, fine.
Starting point is 01:44:56 That was very smart, then. Because someone agreed to not do it and then did it. That was very smart in a debate. That's the snake. They're like, come on guys, we're going to, it wasn't that it was the,
Starting point is 01:45:07 it was, it was what Brett bear and Martha McCallum. I don't know. I don't know who agreed with Ron ahead of time that they weren't going to do the hand raise thing. It's like that thing where it's from the Simpsons. Bart convinces, he tells all the other kids,
Starting point is 01:45:18 let's prank the teacher and turn all our desks around. And they're like, yeah. And when the teacher walks in, he's the only one who did it. And then they're like, Bart detention is like, ah, yes, exactly exactly it was a good setup man good setup and execution for sure there's no doubt about it if that's really what it was that was good that was good
Starting point is 01:45:33 all right jonathan harris says incorrect about china taiwan is where the former rulers fled to when the rogues led by chairman mao took over taiwan also has the latest chip fabs that give the u.s an edge in ai and tech in general that is the republic of china the actual real government of china the occupying force is the ccp which has control of the mainland at present yeah well here's the thing too amd amd can make those same chips in austin texas i i used to work for a company that built the robots that made these these semiconductors right like we'd ship them over to china the robots that made these these semiconductors right like we'd ship them over to china the robots that make these things and then china would make them and send them back to the united states it's
Starting point is 01:46:10 like it's it's a it's ridiculous it's just it's all just this whole thing is just a trip wire for war in my opinion and and honestly we we should be making those things at home we have cobalt mines here we have silica mines here we have all the same stuff it's not like we can't make those here we have two unions here concerned about pollution the manufacturing i guess sure prices there's well they get they get a lot cheaper labor there i'm sure slave labor wages and stuff but it's like it's like who are close to no no taiwan taiwan i don't think taiwan has like slave labor like i i know that you get like that kind of stuff in in. That's what I meant. But in Taiwan, if I understand correctly, because it's a Western-style democracy, I think that there is protections for workers and stuff like that. They're rogue province.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Pardon me? They're rogue province. Yeah, but they style their government. It treats their population the way that Western democracies do. So I don't think that there's a situation with slave labor i imagine you know i mean i could be wrong but i don't think that they have the the kind of deal where there's you know sweatshops full of people working for a dollar a day i don't think that that their economy is that poor i could be wrong but i don't think so the sig piece is i have zero sympathy for these old politicians gripping onto their seat for dear life they should resign their seat and enjoy what
Starting point is 01:47:23 time they have left all they are doing all they are doing place holding for backdoor bureaucrats yeah yeah yep mitch mcconnell time to resign what do they do the governor appoint someone i think the governor would appoint until there's an election there's a special election yeah it would be i think that it would be a special election i mean in illinois blagojevich went to prison because he was he would he would assign the senate seat yeah i believe that it would be a special there'd be a special election and i'm sure there'd be you know three candidates trying to vie for that is that because it's kentucky no i think that's well yeah probably in illinois when brock obama got elected president blagojevich was like I get to pick who the senator is.
Starting point is 01:48:08 And then he was like, and he's like, you got to pay or whatever. That's Illinois for you. Right. But I do jail for that, too. Right. I think the different states have different rules. I'm sure they may. Well, yeah, they have to.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Election rules. That's what they're saying about Pennsylvania, that if Fetterman gets removed for medical issues, the governor will just appoint a replacement. That's bizarre. Definitely doesn't work that way in Iowa, for sure. Wow. Is that your home state? I'm originally from California, but I've lived in Iowa since 2020.
Starting point is 01:48:33 My flight left San Francisco Airport at 1155, and at midnight they instituted a 24-hour lockdown. Whoa. I ran. My girlfriend lived there at the time in Iowa. And so I was like, I'm just going to come there for two weeks to flatten the curve. And I came with a backpack and a suitcase.
Starting point is 01:48:48 And now we got seven kids and a whole huge life there. Seven kids in three years. She had two. I had a daughter who didn't live with us that I had been fighting for custody with. We've made two. And I adopted my oldest daughter. When I got custody of her in 2020, I adopted her two younger siblings that were going to go to foster care. So I was able to get them.
Starting point is 01:49:06 So we went from having just her two girls in the house with a son on the way to having seven kids in the house. And we do have one coming in December as well. Where would you place yourself in the abortion debate? I am pro-life. I am very, very, very pro-life. And I do believe that murder is not good and that there should be some kind of punishment
Starting point is 01:49:24 for doctors who commit murder. I heard Democrats told me you don't exist, that people that are pro-life don't adopt kids. Yeah, well, no. Look into the fuss. No, I know more pro-life white Christian people that have adopted than anybody else. Of course, yeah. And that's the truth. And I'm not saying that as a racial thing, but whenever i hear these pro-life white you know
Starting point is 01:49:45 nuclear family christians won't adopt i know so many that have adopted so many that have adopted but yeah we took in my my oldest daughter's two younger siblings you can't really trust what the left says about the right because the left really doesn't know anybody on the right they've already communicated them for their lives they're just like oh no you're you you voted donald trump get out of here i can't talk to you yeah let's read we got this from robert bradbury new hampshire is amazing free state project and freedom also new hampshire is one of the first states trying to remove trump i'm not proud of my state yeah what's up with that uh the the governor is a republican and he believes that donald trump being on the uh ballot is bad because donald trump can't win that's what he believes i'm not saying
Starting point is 01:50:23 that that's what i when these people these never trumpers were like trump can't win that's what he believes i'm not saying that that's what i when these people these never trumpers were like trump can't win they're lying listen there's a lot of republicans that are never trumpers too that's what i'm saying there's a bunch of them the the desantis surrogates and the desantis supporters saying trump can't win it's gotta be desantis it's like trump lost by 40 000 votes yeah what do you mean he can't win biden his approval ratings in the gutter the economy is bad he's being held up by puppet strings right of course donald trump can win he only needs to win a few states look what they're doing desperate to stop him i'm just sick of the lies that trump can't win i'm not saying he's gonna win tremendously you've got these polls where it's like trump has 20 of the black vote and i'm like i don't know
Starting point is 01:51:01 about that those polls are interesting but i doubt that's a big if but it's like trump barely won in 2016 he barely lost in 2020 it's it's it's a close race true and and you've even got cnn saying the data is showing that trump is actually right now the favorite but you but it's like democrats are like guys trump might win and then you get these never trump was like nope nope he won't win he can't well they have to keep that narrative up to try and get their republicans to not vote for trump i mean yeah because they're trying to get in desantis because he's the best they have yeah and it's just it's just oh man you know what i love let's just let's just let's just go there quickly laura loomer does not work for donald trump right and so when she posts nonsense you're like i don't know whatever but the desantis crowd
Starting point is 01:51:44 gets super offended by it. And then people who actually do work for DeSantis react similarly. And then when people are like, hey, the official campaign, you guys should not do this. They go, but Laura Loomer did it. And it's like, okay, look, I'll also add this. When the class clown is, you know, throwing spitballs at the front board while making jokes and everyone's laughing and you're enjoying the silliness and then the nerdy kid stands up turns around and starts yelling at the class clown you're you're not going to be you're the nerdy kid's not getting
Starting point is 01:52:16 popularity like the preppy little teacher's pet and loomer is the class clown in this situation absolutely like the the the trump supporters online who do not work for trump are posting memes making jokes when they said that bill mitchell looked like an aging lesbian everyone on the answer that the online starts laughing hilariously it's a dig it's an attack and then the response from the tennis people is i am outraged how dare you insult me i now have carte blanche to insult everyone else and it's like you're not being funny you're not being funny right you're you are getting played by these people and complaining about them but you're making yourself look worse i'm sorry man
Starting point is 01:52:53 look i'm not saying it's good i'm saying trump they've been doing this for eight years the trump supporters for eight years they have mastered the meme they told them into office exactly you're you're're not going to compete by pouting and stomping your feet and saying it's not fair. With Bruce, I think it was Alex Brucewitz that did the aging lesbian joke. Is he working with Trump right now? Because he was before. He's part of X, I believe it's called X Strategies. Oh, sure. I think that's what it's called.
Starting point is 01:53:20 I'm not sure. But I don't think he's an official member of the campaign, but I'm not entirely sure. My campaign's playing the troll and meme game. It's a very important part of politics these days. There's no doubt about it. You can't claim the right for your campaign's official staff to start insulting everyone because a handful of people have insulted you. That's how you lose.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Getting triggered is a loss at this point i'm like desantis deserves to lose because he won't fire these people and they keep doing it what would happen today was this one guy posted an image where they did a search of all these different personalities me included about hurricane adalia and they were like these people some of them living in florida won't even tweet about this for political reasons. Get the hell out of this state or whatever. And I'm like, I don't even live in Florida. And I had just recorded a video where I was praising DeSantis' response in Florida. And I'm like, look, man, I'm sorry. The DeSantis surrogates are trying to get him to lose. That's the only explanation. Because it's like, why would
Starting point is 01:54:20 you lie? Like, they lied about Matt Gaetz and they lied about Vivek. Matt Gaetz has been posting nonstop about matt gates and they lied about lied about vivek matt gates has been posting non-stop about the hurricane and and disaster preparedness even posting uh statements from ron de santis and then you've got vivek who said you know you know he gave uh credit to de santa saying you're doing a good job keep it up and then they put out these lies this guy i don't know if he actually works for the campaign but that's the accusation because what they do is they have these text groups where they send supporters memes to basically create, I'll put it this way,
Starting point is 01:54:50 the Son and Rad video, remember that one? When DeSantis appears with the black sun. Oh, the black sun bottom. Can you believe that that is called the Son and Rad video now? But it is. Obviously, yeah. And apparently what happened was the official campaign produced the video and then gave it to a third party saying, post this and we'll retweet it yeah of course anyway so dumb anyway
Starting point is 01:55:11 we have a nice little clip of that uh that part of that video in my campaign video but it's just from just a quick glance we're talking about because we just make fun of all politicians i am the emu says shout out to josh and crew love from sean burton and the burton family oh that's uh yeah very long time family friend awesome nice thank you knee boop says 50 round mags and full auto handguns stop i can only get so hard we're coming baby we're coming no those videos with when they're running around them are crazy but it's like it comes all the way down like the truth is they're so hard to control oh yeah they're just spraying like it's all yeah nuts for you whatever train get out and train i train i do trade but i trade i i'm a first of all i'm a beretta guy i like my spaghetti guys dude so i'm a spaghetti gat guy i carry a 92x all the time
Starting point is 01:56:01 rdo i don't have a red dot on it though all right acoustic theory says we are closer to weimar than ever before they will say trump is our hitler destined to rise out of the political strife because of their arrogance the left can't see themselves in the mirror or they don't care to they know what they're doing it's communists and getting close to something doesn't mean you're more likely to arrive there because things can swivel back and forth we are pretty close to weimar but we're on the edge of an energy revolution where we start using hydrogen fuel and dipping the cost of fuel by like, you know, one, one millionth of a cent. Like we might be able to drastically reduce the cost of fuel and energy, which could elevate our economy to a place that it has never been before.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Do you think they'll do that though? Because we see with medicine, we know there's a lot of stuff that can be cured and they're not in the business of curing humans. They want us to stay sick. Why would they give us the benefit of a major energy breakthrough? Why wouldn't they just keep charging us and just give us a little bit, a little bit, and they just reap the rewards? Do you really trust major energy companies to have humanity in their best interest? Well, I mean, if you could leave it to the corporations, I don't think they'll help us out. But if the people in the government take control of our energy, it would be to prevent civil unrest, basically. And update our fucking Navy. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:57:14 What? Update the Navy, man. We need better fuel sources. That oil is so nasty and heavy. You're talking about DFM? What's that? DFM. What's DFM?m diesel like diesel powered any of that
Starting point is 01:57:28 any of that petroleum-based stuff is just heavy and i'm most carriers at this point all i want to spend that kind of money like we know it doesn't cost money now they figured out with hydrogen you take methane which is ch4 you break grading upgrading the navy will cost money well it will cost resources yeah and but if we can acquire the resources it's worth doing and then who does the labor humans they'll have new jobs and how do you and what do you do to convince the human to do the job what's the what's the subsidized what's the reason that what do you mean subsidize their energy i phil i would like you to carry a heavy box down the stairs oh you, you pay them money. Oh, money.
Starting point is 01:58:05 I mean, right. Well, you say you want to update, but I'm not. I don't understand because I feel like we have a state-of-the-art Navy. It's not like our Navy is falling behind anyone, and we spend a boatload of money, so I'm not sure what you're looking to upgrade. The big ships are nuclear-powered, like your submarines and your aircraft carriers, and I think some of your destroyers. But then, like, I'm not sure what you're looking to upgrade.
Starting point is 01:58:33 There's going to be some fossil fuels that they have. Are you saying get them all off fossil fuels? No, no, no. Getting off oil is impossible because of lubricants. That's what I'm asking what he's talking about. When they talk about wind turbines, they don't realize you need oil. Those ships have
Starting point is 01:58:47 so much lube oil in them. Oh, yeah. I fought a lube oil fire for two and a half days on a carrier. Wow. There's lube everywhere. That's a lot of lube.
Starting point is 01:58:56 It's a risk to have all that oil on a ship. You know what they say about the Navy. It's so flammable. I mean, hydrogen's flammable too, but it's also very lightweight and can be discharged
Starting point is 01:59:03 pretty easily. I want to read one more super chat before we go and uh it's from the bonus holes he says definitely don't add our band on x at the bonus holes the algorithm would not like it if you did that's a cool name and uh just on that note i just wanted to mention that video that phil put up of him performing in front of this sold out massive stadium was just absolutely epic it was awesome and i was super super fortunate to be able to do it so people should check that out on uh what's your what's your what's your x account i am uh phil that remains on x yeah that video is just bonkers to see that what a dream man dream yeah yeah dream i mean look metallica is the biggest
Starting point is 01:59:42 band in the world yeah they're the biggest metal band ever i've been a metalhead since i was a kid so obviously it was a dream come true and i'm just super happy that i could help my friends out and you opened right before metallica so basically everyone's piling in to watch your set they weren't even actually watched metallica they weren't even hammered yet did they call you on wednesday and we're like can you come do this show zoltan sent me a text when i was doing pcc on thursday and i was like hold on i gotta i'm doing a podcast i talked to him on thursday night i had to come here and do the podcast at night i talked to him afterwards and he's like hey can you get on a plane so i was like yeah so i went and drove to my apartment grabbed jango drove to new england to drop her off so that my roommate up there by
Starting point is 02:00:23 place in new hamps Hampshire can watch the dog. Jumped on a flight, flew to L.A., got there on Saturday, played on Sunday, got on a plane on Monday, flew back, grabbed the dog, drove back down here yesterday, and I'm here now. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member by going to TimCast.com, clicking join us. And you can also download the Timcast app on the Google Play Store, Apple to come soon. That members-only show will be starting soon.
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Starting point is 02:01:34 We got Donald Trump Jr., Matt Gaetz, Patrick Bett David, hosted by Tim Pool and Luke Rudkowski. I'll be there. More guests, more people to name. And you can go to the TimCast.com, hit the banner at the top to go buy a ticket. Also, I'm very serious about retrofitting our economy to start using hydrogen fuel. They had a huge breakthrough where they're able to split methane and turn the carbon aspect of it into graphene and the hydrogen aspect into fuel. So it actually makes money to make hydrogen. You come out with a product that you can sell.
Starting point is 02:02:02 And we're just about raising awareness. It's my pinned tweet on X. So check it out and follow me there at ian crossland uh you guys can follow me on x at kellen pdl and last friday we had freshman fit and they said no one watches women's sports well uh nebraska volleyball just set the world record for most uh largest attendance at a women's sporting event that was like 92 000 whoa yeah lots of people like you know women's volleyball so they're making you look bad it's crazy i wonder why women's volleyball is awesome okay like they're not in bad shape it is a fun watch man but i've seen some really good videos you see those crazy videos where it's like they they the ball's in play for like a minute
Starting point is 02:02:42 oh yeah they're all just diving. I'm like, wow. They're badasses. Yes, did you shut your... Yeah, yeah, I did. Kellen PDL. Thanks, guys. All right, everybody. We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Thanks for hanging out.

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