Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #856 DOJ Seeks PRISON For Pundit Over J6 Speech, Owen Shroyer Targeted w/Martha Bueno

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Carter join Martha Bueno to discuss an employee for InfoWars being charged for his comments about January 6th, fans at a Yankees game displaying a gigantic banner saying "Trump or Death," Elon Musk being slammed for blocking Starlink access to Ukraine's military in order to prevent an attack, & the rise of communism in America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. You know, I hate to say, I told you so! But I missed this story when it came out on the 5th. We're going to go over it tonight. I talked about it earlier today. Owen Schroyer is being targeted by the DOJ. They want 120 days in prison. Why? Speech.

Owen Schroyer, a pundit, personality and journalist for Infowars, said some things. And for the things he said, the DOJ says he should go to prison for it. And this is what I said was going to happen. I said, now they're going after, they go after Trump, they go after his lawyers. The next people in line are going to be the pundits who are advocating for or encouraging people on January 6th. First person in line, Owen Schroer. Now, a few important details.

He did not go into the Capitol. The Infowars team had a permit to have a rally outside the Capitol in a different area. Owen Schroer was on Capitol grounds. This is the initial pretext they get to charge him. He pleads guilty. They then say in the sentencing document, the prosecutor says, because of his speech before, during, and after the event, he should get this amount of time in prison. It's not a one for one to what I was

exactly describing, but it's basically the opening the door, the midway point. A guy said some things about January 6th, encouraged people. He challenged the established order. And for that, he should go to prison. We're going to talk about that. We do have a lot of good news, though. And the reason why they're getting so heavy handed, CNN's got got a poll out trump's winning if the election were held today trump wins yeah it's within the margin of error but he's beating biden and cnn says never in the 2020 cycle did they have polls that showed this level of uh uh this high high probability for donald. You also have a Yankees game. A banner was unfurled that said Trump or death. So I certainly hope not. But it's getting crazy out there.

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Hello. Good evening. Who are you? What do you do? So thank you so much for having me. I'm Martha Bueno. I am a liberty activist and I am the first person in the United States to have used OnlyFans as a campaign, as a method to campaign. I am also an entrepreneur. In what way, though, is the question?

How did I use OnlyFans? Yeah. I put political content on only fans i it was very g-rated however because immediate people are like what are you saying are you saying you did adult the spice level was about green pepper level oh green pepper it was spicy right on right on uh so what do you what are you doing now uh currently i just launched uh our good it is a new way to consume delta 8 8 the um or in other cannabinoids and uh you can check us out at our good.com right on thanks for hanging out we got phil labonte hello everybody my name is phil

labonte i am the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that remains and i am an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary missed you last you last week. We had a great episode with Jackson Hinkle. See you again soon. Hey, I found, I just read recently that people want to polish the Statue of Liberty.

All that green, it's green because it's basically oxidized copper and if you polish it down it's going to be like a bronze copper. Shiny. Would you guys suggest

putting tax money into that? Would that be a good public works project? I actually don't hate the idea. And I think that New Jersey and New York should actually compete for who's going to actually clean it up. Because Jersey's always saying, oh, you know, Ellis Island, or I mean, Liberty Island's in New Jersey. It's not New York, blah, blah, blah. So let them fight about it.

And then whoever cleans it gets to have it for a year. T-Mobile. T-Mobile wins the bid, and it's the T-Mobilemobile statue of liberty i hope that doesn't happen for the remainder of the contract i really hope that doesn't happen i think it's fine that it's green i don't know whatever yeah it looked cool the picture that they showed of it was like wow it could be shining the sunlight that'd be cool the tweet that he was hard the tweet when they were talking about it he was talking about like doing it as an idea of like rejuvenating american bringing american spirit back and et cetera.

And there are times where those kind of policies or those kind of things can inspire people. I don't know if it's a great idea. I don't know if it's going to do a whole lot, but I don't think it's a, it's not a horrible idea. It'd kind of neat. Let me know in the chat.

We also have Carter Banks in tonight. What's up, guys? He's filling in for Kellen. He's filling in for Serge. I think we should keep it green for now, just for old time's sake. For old time's sake? Technically, old time's sake would be to polish it.

Well, then never mind. Polish it. I like green. I don't know. All right. Well, let's jump into this first story. It's from none other than everyone's favorite, Media Matters for America.

Ah, yes. Trash cans. I actually really like this article. It says, Alex Jones claims InfoWars host Owen Schroyer was charged for free speech. That's it. They don't insult Alex Jones. They don't write anything. They literally just post a quote and a video

of Alex Jones, which I will play a bit for you here right now. I think... Now, this deals with Owen and this deals with the rest of the January 6th people where their lawyers are like, we don't want you to antagonize the system. We don't want you to sit there and do much stuff. Let us try to not get them in prison.

I'm like, well, I want to defend them. I want to talk about it. Well, it's up to them if they want help or not. And Owen's a smart cookie, but they're trying to put Owen in jail, in prison. They filed last night. He's sentenced next week. He goes to D.C. And I didn't cover it, but the Gateway Pundit did,

breaking D.C. prosecutors' seek, 120 days in prison for Owen Schroyer for speaking out against stolen election 2020 speech about crime. Now, that's not just the gateway upon its headline i have overhead shot please right here the charging document the feds put forward here it is we actually have that as well and so in the charging document i'm not going to read through the whole thing they basically say before january 6th on january 6th, and after January 6th, Owen Schroyer had said things that incited people. And for that, they are seeking this sentence.

The criminal charge against him is not for speech. It's for being on the Capitol grounds. But they're arguing that he is the reason people stormed the Capitol. They highlight this. Be a part of history. Fight for Trump. And it shows people outside the Capitol. Alex Jones and Owen with bullhorns.

And if you scroll down, I'll jump down to right before they get to their recommendations. They go on to mention, let's see, I want to try and find the specific portion. May. They go on to mention after the fact, August. So this is for his speech that they are seeking to put him in jail. When I said that the next people they'd come for would be pundits, I didn't mean like outright it would be Owens or anything like that. There are people who are not in the Capitol,

who are not on the Capitol grounds, who I am referring to. And there are people who are not even in D.C. who I am referring to. And there are people who are not even in D.C. who I am referring to. I even said like prominent cable personalities who are in communications with Trump legal's team who pushed the narrative, prominent personalities, many of whom got sued. They're going to come after them next. But Owen Schroyer is in between. He not only was there on the ground, he didn't go in the building, but he was also someone that they're seeking a prison sentence for over speech he made after the fact i blame obama yeah why is that uh because the precedent for going after journalists was set with uh snowden and with uh assange and then the obama administration went after james rosen uh so the idea that this is

the first time no this is something that's been in motion for a long time and there's a lot of people people around this table and and other pundits and stuff that have have been vocal about how it's a bad thing that you know snowden hasn't been uh pardoned and and assange hasn't been pardoned and it's a bad thing that that rosen went to jail and the democrats didn't actually went to jail or i'm sorry that the day uh they went after him we've had him on the show i'm pretty sure yeah i was here and and he was talking about you know they wiretapped him and blah blah and uh you know the fact that we have allowed the government to get away with it is why it continues now the situation we're in right here

if this does happen and he goes to jail for speech it's only going to be worse they're not there's not going to be someone that says okay that's enough bs they're going to be like all right that worked the american people allowed it this is a new power we have and we can do this so let's go back in time let's go back to when the when the biden administration targeted james rosen a journalist try to put him in jail when obama uh charged whistleblowers and journalists under the espionage act more than any other president combined than all the other presidents combined yeah imagine going back then when we were concerned about this and telling people in 10 years,

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should be proud of what we did that day. He said something like he maintains the election was stolen. One of the reasons they want him in jail is because they said even after all of this, he still maintains the election was stolen as if he has to publicly change his opinion yeah this is this is soviet level this is culture revolution level communist authoritarianism welcome to the future and it happens very quickly very quickly it goes from you're free to you're not free. I mean, look, we're discussing 10 years. I mean, and think about the past few years.

Think about where we were six, seven years ago. And it's laughable to me that there are people who are like, ah, you're overreacting or it's exaggerating or it's shot content. I'm like, dude, I think the issue is that everybody is standing in the middle of the forest and when you tell them dude you are in the middle of force like what do you mean it's a can full of trees like one two three four five six seven eight nine i'm like bro you can't tell where all the other trees are because you're standing in the middle of all yeah you got to look at nine i mean 9-11 is like you know when you see those buildings fall and free fall i i'm most people can understand it when they see the site.

Okay, hold on. Nah. You want to talk about the slow boil? Way too far. That's the beginning of this totalitarian seizure, man. I can respect that, but you've got to slow down a little bit. The way that the government... You've got to talk about, okay, so we ended up in this position with the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act.

It was like 2010 or something. I think that was 12 which gave the indefinite which signed into law the indefinite detention provision which is an offshoot of what is effectively the bush era expansion of authoritarianism anti-terror policies and the expansion of the creation of dhs which emerges out of the patriot act which starts after 9-11 i watched it happen in real time too it was crazy and like i'm not saying you're wrong i'm saying we got it we just saying we've got to explain to people how we get from point A to point B. Right. This would set a precedent for that to be acceptable if they were to pull that off.

And now it is. Now we're here. When we talked in 2012 about the indefinite detention provision that Obama signed into law, the NDA provision that says they could snatch you up in the middle of the night without charge or trial hold you on a military vessel 11 miles off the coast of this country and rendition you we were like that's scary and the response everybody's oh you're nuts that's never going to happen shut your mouths because now we're at the point where they're arresting journalists they're arrested well they've been targeting journalists. That's the Obama era around the same time going after a Rosen, Julian Assange. That's, that's an informal assassination. As far as I'm concerned, Owen Schroyer said bombastic things outside the

Capitol. And for that, they want to go to prison. This is the next grain of sand. They're going after lawyers. They're going after political, uh, they're going after political uh they're going after politicians it's not just trump they removed coy griffin in new mexico from the ballot this is well beyond the point we are we are potentially a couple years away from the actual implementation of an indefinite detention act the trump and i hate the fact that this is so prescient now but trump said they're not coming after you or they're not coming after me they're coming after you i'm just in the way and i hate the fact that it looks like that's the case the idea that it's just trump is something that that i've been pushing back against with democrats specifically shit lives uh for a long time because they think oh well donald trump is different donald trump is different it's like the thing that's different is the behavior of the democrats and the left

the influence of authoritarianism in the united states on the left is undeniable and the the fact that people have been ignoring it or just saying no no it's not true likely because they don't believe it's true because they have normal jobs and normal lives and they're not steeped in this stuff like people that do this stuff all the time but the fact of the matter is the federal government has never been more authoritarian they're throwing people in jail in the way that they did like during the uh the civil war and in the 20s or not was it was it wilson that in jail? FDR threw people in jail, but it's back to the old, you know,

authoritarian government and that's not acceptable. We've said this a bunch. I don't see the off ramp. If this is accepted, what's going to be next? Because it's not going to be oh, we're going to chill out. It would take someone in the Democrat

party in power standing up and saying we can't do this and there is no going to be, oh, we're going to chill out. It would take someone in the Democrat party within power standing up and saying, we can't do this. And there is no one that even wants to. They're all enjoying it. I think it's going to come from us, to be honest. That's scary. Yeah, it is scary. But you know what? Nobody's coming to save you. And you see this everywhere where authoritarianism just takes hold. You know, everybody's like, well, we just need a savior. And that's why you get that charismatic leader that comes in and destroys the country. And, you know, maybe that charismatic leader that we need to save us is Trump. But I doubt it.

No, he was in power before and he did nothing for Julian Assange. He did nothing for Edward Edward Snowden. He did nothing for Ross Ulbricht snowden he did nothing for ross ulbrich he's done nothing to change the situation that we're in now he had the opportunity four years was plenty yeah but there's nobody else there is nobody else i agree with you there's nobody else and at this point it's trump or nobody but we can't expect that trump is going to come save us yeah we have to understand that it's going to come from us and it's going to come from americans number one understanding history understanding where this is going to come save us. We have to understand that it's going to come from us and it's going to come from Americans.

Number one, understanding history, understanding where this is going and then doing something about it because they can't control us if we don't allow them to. You were talking earlier about Venezuela. Can you go ahead and relate some of the things that you were telling us about?

Because this is important now because this is something that it's possible that we're going to have to worry about. We have got people that, and I really do want you to, but I want to say this first. People that deny that there is a problem on the left, they need to go to urban areas and talk to the political activists. The people that are on the ground working with the communities, talk to them.

You go to Brooklyn, there's DSA everywhere, which is the Democratic Socialists of America, full of commies, full of communists. And they're at the point where they'll tell you about it. So if you don't mind,

go ahead and relate some of the things. And somehow it's okay to be a communist in this country. Like you would never call yourself- Not according to me! You know ahead and relate some of the things. And somehow it's okay to be a communist in this country. Like, you would never call yourself... Not according to me! You know... Well, let's start from the beginning. It wasn't that long ago.

People don't realize this, that Venezuela was a wealthy capitalist nation. Absolutely. So I wasn't born in Venezuela because my mom hightailed it back to the U.S. to have me. But I was taken to Venezuela when I was nine days old, and I lived there until back and forth between the U.S. to have me. But I was taken to Venezuela when I was nine days old and I lived there until back and forth between the U.S. until I was 15. So, you know, I'm however, like my age old is how like long this has been going on. Not even much less. I watched communism, socialism enter into Venezuela. Venezuela was one of the most prosperous nations in Latin America before Venezuela. It was

Cuba, which was, of course, destroyed by the same ideology. And there's no way to talk about Venezuela without talking about Cuba, because Fidel Castro, the dictator of Cuba, trained Hugo Chavez in Cuba on how to do this. You know, it's, I think people just assume that it's easy to come into power and take over. And he did it in the very similar ways to Castro. So, yeah, it starts very similarly. And it's this class warfare. It starts with the, well, you're poor because that guy over there has your money. That guy over there has your jobs and your opportunities. And, you know, you're poor because of them.

So you see the class warfare and that's that's really where you know it started like dawning on me here in the u.s like oh wait i've seen this before it's that that and then it you know authoritarianism's come in and of course you can't your guns is the first thing they take um you know unfortunately here in the u.s we have started to lose a little bit of our our gun freedoms and i understand that that's scary for some people but i disagree on that one it's actually not true what uh gun rights have expanded rapidly and exponentially over the past two decades in ways that this country is is it's been good right so uh dc versus heller the right to for individuals to keep and bear arms

outside of their home was 2008 if you look at the uh issuance of gun permits there was not a single state that would allow you to have a gun for the most part back in the 80s it was it was actually difficult to have guns now we did have a different culture where people had rifles and there was like gun clubs in schools but in the past 20, the expansion of individual liberties and gun rights has been exponential to the point where now I think half the country is constitutional carry. Or I'm sorry, it's probably safer to say open carry in more than half the country, which did not exist 20, 30 years ago. What was it before that when we didn't have to you need you needed a permit and they wouldn't give it to you when did we need a permit so even with the second amendment they you you still had back in the day let's like let's go back to the frontier era new

york they didn't allow you to have guns second amendment said you're the right to keep and bear arms and it was in your house basically and uh famously you'll look at you know old uh old westerns or whatever the trope was the american history was you'd go into a town and they could order you to turn over your weapons now we're in an era and and and again for the most part people would carry guns because you're in the middle of nowhere no one can enforce anything anyway but we get into this modern era uh you go back to the 1900s we get the nfa early 1900s i think it was like the 20s and they start expanding rapid control of firearms and making it harder and harder

it's actually uh if you look at the map of the right to keep and bear arms without a permit the government can't question you started to emerge after the 80s so we're actually doing really really well that's amazing maybe that's why they're going after the first amendment instead of the second one they are because you kind of you kind of need to get rid of the first one too in order to you know go after the second one then well i i they're going after the second amendment for sure they're not they're never stopping but they are losing and i think it's important for everyone to understand i don't want to tell everybody we won hooray you know stop fighting no no no you got to be vigilant but

you you pull up a map of uh it used to be every state was a basic basically a no issue or may issue you wanted a gun you'd go to the police you'd go to the government say can i get a permit they'd say sure and then they'd never give it to you now overwhelming i think i think more than half this country is is open carry meaning you can if you're a resident you can walk into the gun store you do a federal background check they hand hand you the gun, you can walk out holding it. Some states, like West Virginia, Texas now, I don't know how many states are constitutional carry, but a lot. Texas is now. Yeah, meaning you can walk in as a resident, you fill out your national instant check system, your next background check, and then they could jam you up for a few days, three days is the max.

But typically, you'll be cleared within five or ten minutes, and then you can actually take the weapon and conceal it on your person and go walk around. So those rights have been expanding rapidly, and I think it's important people know that I think we're winning across the board. And what we're seeing with the expansion of these extremist policies and the targeting of the likes of owen schroyer and these lawyers is that they're losing control 26 states are constitutional carry that's what i thought but it's crazy to think more than half the country allows you to just buy and carry a weapon even cross like i started i got my concealed carry permit like 2019 and then i just renewed renewed it yesterday, but I don't need it anymore. They're constitutional carry now. Right.

And they say, if West Virginia, for instance, if you get your concealed carry permit, you don't even get the background check per weapon anymore because the process by which you get your concealed carry permit is your background check and at that point you're allowed to just freely purchase weapons whereas if you don't have it you have to get a background check every single time you buy they're making guns out of graphene now did you see that oh wow a little 22 super lightweight apparently yeah so if you take a look at this image right to carry in 1986 and you can watch the progression uh this is awesome look i mean this is amazing may issue means they're not giving it to you no issue states texas would not give you a a permit for carrying a weapon to in 2000 look at all these states red states that are saying you can't carry this is crazy blue is constitutional carry is that right blue is shell issue meaning that if you

apply for a permit they have to give you one unrestricted is constitutional carry look at the expansion of constitutional carry in this country here we go 2019 2020 2021 yeah that's look at this crazy people saying they don't like esg look at the 86 you couldn't get a gun in these states yeah all the yellow ones were may issue meaning you'd apply and they wouldn't give it to you. If you were lucky, maybe. That's crazy to think. The ultimate defense, dude.

You allow your citizens to arm themselves. It's the ultimate. And stay organized. This is the important thing to consider, the polarization and extremism that we're seeing. We are seeing a rise of communists, of authoritarians, and they are getting increasingly desperate. Despite the fact that we've been winning across the board on the issue of gun rights they have been gaining control in institutions they have been subverting our children our education system our entertainment uh industry and now they're in government and the likes of the democratic party have weaponized the

doj to try and go after anyone that opposes them. But I think they're going to lose. I think they're going to lose. And this should say it right to everybody's face. Look, man, they have their victories. The conflict is never without your losses and your wins. But I think we're winning. And everything they're doing is panic and fear. But if at any point we stop and sit back and think it's over, they win it. They win it. Yeah, we're in the middle of a global revolution of consciousness. Like it is the new world order is forming.

We have no time to waste. There's no reason to stop, to keep pushing. We need to change and create the world in the image of the United States Constitution, in my opinion. This is our one option. I have a problem with the idea of us needing to do stuff for the rest of the world. That's very authoritarian and it's very neocon and very stuff that we got ourselves into a lot of trouble in Iraq and Afghanistan and a whole bunch of other places trying to do. It is not America's job to make the rest of the world like America. And that's part of why nationalism should not be a dirty word like

you shouldn't be like jingoistic and be like i want to export war for my country but you should be like it's okay for there to be countries with different laws and i don't think that it's a good idea to just because we believe that america has like the best system we can believe that but that doesn't mean that other people in other countries would agree that's and i think that's what happened in iraq we went in there and we're like we're going to deliver democracy but the iraqi people the population that you're giving the the this new government or new structure to has to be willing to accept it and want to do it if america falls to an authoritarian uh government it will be because the american people have said we accept this it'll be

because democrats have said we're gonna vote for the the government to have this kind of power i want i want everyone to look at this map real quick this is the the finalized map of the country and your guns. Where it's green, you do not need a permit to carry concealed. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there.

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If you're a resident, you still have to go through a federal background check. You can then take the weapon after being cleared, put it in your belt or your holster, cover it up and walk on out. You don't need a permit. Where it's blue, you do need a permit, but no longer do we have the may issue or it up and walk on out you don't need a permit very where it's blue you do need a permit but no longer do we have the may issue or no issue states it used to be and this this this uh ruling

just dropped what was the what was the ruling um it's just like a year ago or whatever when they said when they when the supreme court ruled you have to give a permit to carry if you have a permit i remember what happened but i don't write maryland for instance in new jersey were considered no issue yeah uh they call themselves uh may issue you apply for a permit and they claim everyone can get a gun but then in maryland and new jersey and parts of california you'd say okay i'd like to get a permit say what do you need it for and you'd have to give them a reason they approve of and they they never approve. Hold on. If you're rich, they approve. Yep.

So it's a class issue. Oh, hands down. Rich people and celebrities would go in and say, I need a gun. They'd say, why? And they would say, I'm worth millions of dollars. And I'm concerned for my safety. They'd go, oh, right away, sir. Right away.

And you get your permit. Regular working class person says you know look i want to keep my family safe they say how dare you come in here get out of here and the cops with a smile on their face will arrest you if you try and defend yourself under the second under second amendment rights it seems like the law legal system is class warfare at its finest because any rich person can buy their way out of jail i don't think it's just being rich trump is rich it's it's it's not just the money it's who you are it's just being rich. Trump is rich. It's not just the money. It's who you are.

It's who you know. Right. Connections. But money plays a big role. For example, in Wrigleyville in Chicago, everybody knows this. It's like, I don't know what the current ticket is. It used to be 50 bucks if you parked illegally. And you know what that means?

It means if you want to park to go to see a baseball game, it's 50 bucks. Street parking, 50 bucks. Exactly. game it's 50 bucks street parking 50 bucks exactly because it's so hard to find parking people would park double park park in front of fire hydrants and be like i don't care i'll take the 50 ticket otherwise i'm not getting parking the only problem with that is if they're going to go ahead and tell you if you're in a place they don't tell you where so they're all i almost never saw anybody get towed because there's too many cars illegally parked. Ah, okay.

Yeah, civil disobedience. There are some tow companies that'd be like, all right, boys, let's start pulling them in because we're about to make money. But for the most part, everybody just, it was normal that everyone did it. However, one time someone double parked in front of my apartment where my friend's car was, and we ain't playing no games.

We needed to use the car. And so it's just like, no, I don't care. care baloney company toke company company came and took it i wanted to to finish off what we were talking about phil earlier a few minutes ago that um spreading american exceptionalism around earth because i used to be kind of ambivalent about it then the wars over in the middle east happened i'm like no i'm done go back to isolation we do not need to be involved head in the sand sand. Forget about it. Focus on me. And then shit just went haywire. The whole globe just started to take the United States over. Culture war, international deceit using the internet,

twisting people, deep fakes, messing with your politicians. And we do need to be involved with auditing and editing the world's police force and the world's governance. I don't want to do it by force of military. That obviously failed in the Middle East. I think that almost always, not always, it doesn't always fail. You can conquer and 80 years later, if you're willing to face the attrition, those will be your people.

But it takes generations for that to happen. And we're not really in a world with everything happening so quick. World War II kind of put an end to that stuff. Of colonization. Yeah, because the thing is, once you you when you industrialize war and make it possible to annihilate entire cities the idea of of using force and war to conquer territory kind of stops being acceptable and that's part of the reason why there's been proxy wars and small wars since world war ii but we've managed to avoid a a global uh world war because there are there has been the the effort by the west to

prevent other countries from having nuclear weapons which we talked about the other night um you know to to prevent the the uh what's the word they use anyways other countries from getting nuclear weapons but the proliferation proliferation thank you um but the point is uh they i'm sorry i lost it go ahead well you're saying that it's hard to conquer and and amalgamate the population with total war tactics yeah it's too dangerous but so i i don't know i'm open to hearing what you guys think about not i mean you do kind of have to force the like i'm forcing this conversation right now in a sense it's not it's not warlike good ideas don't require force but for me to even come up here and sit down and put a camera on and like force myself to be in this situation i could

easily be playing video games alone in my room in a studio apartment in the middle of the city copy what they see that they like and you know what that's why the united states was the united states and everywhere else like when i lived in venezuela everything the united states did was awesome and everybody wanted to be like the United States. Maybe they didn't say it outright. I mean, we talked about it a whole lot in Venezuela. It's like, ooh, did you buy that in the U.S.? It's special because you got it in the U.S.

Like, you know, people want to copy what is good. And so if we were that country that we were supposed to be, people would be copying us. Unfortunately, that's not us anymore. And that was back in the 90s when people were like, it's U.S., I love it, I love it. They loved love it because from the 50s all the way through i mean blue jeans blue jeans there's people say that the thing that took the soviet union out was blue jeans but so we were just as corrupt our country was just as corrupt in the 90s but people didn't know so they still

worship the united states and were willing to take on its ideals you know i lived in venezuela and i was like wow this is corrupt. That country over there, America, they're so great. It's not corrupt. And then I get here and I'm like, oh, boy, was I wrong. It's almost a justification

to hide our corruption from the world. We do corruption so well, though. I mean, we do. And to be fair, as far as corruption goes, the United States is exceptional. Right? And other countries are really bad. Local police is awesome.

There are countries where if you get pulled over, you're not getting a ticket, you're handing him a hundred bucks, or you're going to jail. That's it. There's one or the other. And Venezuela is alcohol, though. I want to jump to the story as we talk about the love for America. From Marca.com, Trump supporters unveil massive Trump or death banner to jump to the story as we talk about uh the love for america from marca.com trump supporters

unveil massive trump or death banner as a flag at yankees game take a look at this image 1776 2024 trump or death you know that kind of freaks me out it's like if trump doesn't get elected what are they saying are they saying give me liberty or give me death except it's trump instead of liberty no i don't know that that's the slogan of cuba right there are they saying that if trump isn't elected it will be death what is the slogan of cuba patria or muerte patriot uh your country or death that's that's the slogan that's a cuban slogan right there which is why that song went viral uh page like your country or death that's the slogan what's like what's the direct literal translation it's patriot patria is your homeland homeland homeland or death wow yeah with thomas henry

was it thomas henry give me liberty or give me death that's the whole like give me exactly what i want or i'll die no no no no that's not what he's saying. He's saying, leave me alone or I will fight you. That's what's being implied. Liberty, the freedom to do what I want, or I will fight for that liberty. And that means I will fight to the death for that liberty. As opposed to give me X or die. It's not give me liberty or give me death. It's leave me alone.

You have two choices. Either you're going to give me my liberty or you're going to have to kill me. But giving liberty is basically leave me alone. It's not give me Donald Trump. It's not give me a result. It's stay off my lawn. So liberty is a negative. So you don't need to be given a thing or you don't need someone else to act on your behalf.

It's not a positive action to have liberty right so give me liberty is leave me alone like don't take a positive action action against me but in cuba for it's like worship the page worship the homeland or suffer yeah that was fidel's slogan that's what they came into cuba with was padre So, yeah, when I saw that flag, I was like, whoa, that's authoritarian AF. Yeah, man. You mentioned the charismatic guy that comes in and destroys the world. I feel like Obama did it, and then Trump just kept going with it. Well, we all thought Obama was going to be our savior, right?

I mean, like, that was the big thing. I didn't. I'm sure nobody at this table did. I didn't think so. I felt like that. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people. Finally, we got it. Yeah, and it was like, you know, he's this great guy.

He looks good on camera. Man, the man can dress, you know, and he says all the right things. And then, you know, drops a few bombs on kids and American citizens. And, you know, it's just, I don't know. It's scary to watch. It's scary to watch and pay attention obama is more likely to be the charismatic like if someone would come to me and said do you think that the charismatic leader who we're a leader who leads the world to destruction is around today

i'd be like it's possible if you came to me and said you thought it was either trump or obama but oh there's no question it's not trump the dude certainly has charisma but he also has serious issues with half the country and a lot of people really don't like him he he's he's not he's he's yeah they're forcing us to like him they're obama is the famous silver silver tongue you know world celebrity, who was doing awful, horrible things. I don't know if I'd say awful, but Trump was like a movie star. He was a TV star, like a character actor, telling jokes, being like,

you're fired with a smile, calling Rosie O'Donnell fat. Just a charismatic, even though you would say, but you can be charismatic and cruel, or charismatic and say mean things that upset people charismatically. And he did that, so half the people loved him. that so my point is simply if it came down to who do you think out of the two was more likely to be the charismatic leader who leads the world to ruin it's obama i felt like it was a package it was it was 2008 to 2020 we had this mess of celebrity in charge that just made it

about who who can who can smack talk better. It got hotter the longer it went on. I think that's probably just an artifact of this is your generation. But it never happened before. Yeah, Ronald Reagan was a movie star. But he didn't act like that. He wasn't like cool. I was literally watching a documentary earlier. It's hilarious, by the way.

And I forgot what it's called, but it's like how my dad got radicalized from a Democrat to far right because of Rush Limbaugh. And it was really hilarious watching this thing because it's called, but it's like how my dad got radicalized from a Democrat to far right because of Rush Limbaugh. And it was really hilarious watching this thing because it's mirror reality. I mean, they got the guy from Media Matters. And Media Matters just posts like insane lies all the time and conspiracy theories. And I'm like, to act like you're not in the cult and you're listening to this guy. But in it, they're talking about Ronald Reagan.

They're talking about ronald reagan they're talking about richard nixon they're talking about the fast quick one-liners and demagoguery and celebrity and building cults of personality and i'm like oh this is really fun yeah they did with clinton and this is the saxophone on arsenio hall or something on ntv man this documentary is about rush limbaugh this is about like you know the 2000s the 90s and 2000s this is not about even trump they've been saying the same thing over and over again they said bush was hit about even Trump. They've been saying the same thing over and over again. They said Bush was Hitler. Every Republican is Hitler. It's the same game they play every single time.

The difference is social media, because if Reagan wasn't able to get his word out without the networks going on to like, you know, David Letterman or something, so that it was all network approved. But Trump bypasses the FCC and goes straight to the mouth with like Twitter. And it just upended the entire, like any kind of normalcy or things you don't—

You don't go on national television and call someone a fat pig when you're the president. Use that pulpit and that power and that authority to demean someone's physical appearance. It's like, what in the hell did he just do to the essence of the United States presidency? That was a terrible misuse of power, in my opinion. I mean, I don't think that Obama was really... I don't think that Trump was really significantly worse than other presidents. He was significantly better. Yeah, well, when it comes to rhetoric and stuff like that.

Foreign policy. People act like the rhetoric that he had was so bad and I agree with you about foreign policy. But the, I don't think that he really was, he was a little more direct in the way that he spoke but he wasn't

and maybe other presidents were, they were a little more, they had a little more finesse but the thing that people liked about Trump was that he was just saying it like it is. He was an authentic guy. He was BSing people, but it didn't seem like it was canned or written by a speechwriter.

People related to that. He's honest where it matters. He's like, we're going to keep soldiers in Syria for the oil. We've got to keep the oil. We're doing really well. It's like, wow. He said, we're going gonna sell weapons to Saudi Arabia. And we're like, okay.

Alright. And then he would be like, my hair is real and I'm the best. You're like, okay, Trump. It's like, he lies a lot. But the things he lies about, I don't care about. It's like... How many people were at his inauguration? Yeah, exactly. How many people were there? Oh, the biggest you've ever seen.

It's like, we know it wasn't, but fine whatever look if donald trump is sitting there and he's like he's in his room saying oh there's a million people here right now watching watching me sign these peace agreements in the middle east i'm like that's right they're all watching and waiting for you to sign those peace agreements please sign them like i don't care if trump wants to lie about the size of inauguration or you know the women he's been with and all this weird stupid nonsense cultural crap i care that we got the abraham accords i care that the economy was doing well i care that he took tremendous efforts to try and bring peace to parts of the the world like in north korea and they attack him for it and that one deeply offends me and i love saying it

trump crossed the demilitarized zone into enemy territory with no security detail. Now, you can F off. Anybody who's like, Trump's pulling up to dictators, I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, nice try, dude. That's not going to fly. They could have captured the president right there on the spot and made demands. I mean, they wouldn't. Trump was right.

He knew the move to be made. But it was a tremendous sign of good faith trump can tell me that his house is made of cheese and graham crackers and sugar and candy canes and he can look me square in the eyes and lie he can tell me that his toilet is made of solid gold and i'll say whatever you say dude keep working on those peace agreements and i'm satisfied just be, are you sure it's solid? Isn't it just a plating? You're right. You're absolutely right.

I think it's plating. It's like Zoolander. When Zoolander looks at the, you know, what is the Institute for Kids Who Can't Read Good or whatever? And he's like, how are we going to teach them to read if they can't fit in the building? And then Mugatu is like, he's absolutely right. I'm saying if trump

wants me wants me to believe that he had the biggest inauguration or any other nonsense like that and he keeps saying it i'm just going to be like yes you are completely correct sir and that's all all of those people at your inauguration are cheering for you as you sign the abraham accords and try and bring peace to the middle east i was thinking what happened the other night like who was the best president of my lifetime that comes up a lot on the show and i was like well in red there's two ways to answer the question one is with retrospect the other night, like, who is the best president of my lifetime? It comes up a lot on the show. And I was like, well, there's two ways to answer the question. One is with retrospect. The other one is at that point in my life, who was it? Thinking of like in this moment, who is the best?

It was Bill Clinton. Because in the late 90s or in the early mid 90s, he was able to rally and like make the United States seem like the greatest country on earth for all of us. It felt like we ended the Cold War and it was finally we've solved war it felt like it was really done and then you find out later they're part of a military war machine and i don't know what happened in bosnia and shit like he was trump trump's the best president of my life and and he's just so divisive that's why i don't pick him i i disagree i blame the corrupt uniparty establishment trump was a massive celebrity loved by everybody barack obama said the american dream was to be trump but trump was an outsider who wanted to do things like bring back manufacturing secure our borders and the tpp i gotta tell you when he crushed the tpp that's probably one of

the biggest moments where the knives came out and then they did everything in their power to make everybody hate trump and i'm like everybody loved the guy he was in home alone i'm gonna say again barack obama said the American dream is to be Donald Trump. That was the idea before he decided to run for president and they came after him. And even the people who there are certain celebrities who are like, oh, I've been good friends with the Trump family. They're all very, very nice.

But Trump's a fascist and I'm like, oh, get out of here with that. Look, it is not hard to say that Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime. Because who am I comparing him to? Bill Clinton? No, please.

George Bush was my least favorite. So in my lifetime, I've had H.W. Bush, Clinton, W. Bush, Obama, and Trump. And certainly you can compliment some of these presidents for some things. But come on. H.W. Bush? Oh, please, dude. What did he say? you can compliment some of these presidents for some things but come on hw bush oh please dude you know what we'll be what do you say we're beginning to see the makings of a new world order and all of that neocon garbage and desert storm and everything they tried to do you get bill clinton and don't get me wrong there are some good economic stuff but uh there's a whole lot

of stuff wrong with what bill with with bill clinton's presidency and i have to say for the most part when it comes to those two presidents in my lifetime it was it was it was it there was nothing in my life that they did that mattered and so the most i can say is bill clinton's got all the scandals i mean you know what scandal oh my god that was like the stupidest scandal of all oh no i'm right i'm saying in terms oh my god a famous man who had sex outside of marriage like wow i am shocked but in terms of what mattered to me hw bush was bad with war with with clinton we certainly had a great degree of conflict with george w bush we got the worst of it in my lifetime with iraq and afghanistan the expansion of conflict in the middle east uh brock obama's extrajudicial assassinations of american citizens and then we get trump and for everything i can't

say about the clinton years because i was too little i can say no new wars abraham accords peace agreements in in europe um getting people to commit to paying their fair share with nato working on peace agreements with north kore people to commit to paying their fair share with NATO, working on peace agreements with North Korea, securing our borders, bringing back manufacturing. There's no question. It's just, it really is an easy answer. Man, I don't want to repeat myself too much, but I believe one of the president's main jobs is to unify the states,

preside over the United States and keep them united. And if a president comes in and tells half the country that they're not part of the group or is that that uh well maybe it's a libertarian in me i just i'm sorry i can't tell you which is my favorite president because i don't have one because all of them have done some terrible things and i think they should pretty much all be kind of charged i mean i mean there's there's there's i mean like now you know clinton was on epstein's plane uh there's a lot about yeah there you know like so it's hard for me sitting here because it's like yeah obama looked great when he was wearing his suits and bombing people you know

across the world like it's just it's really hard and also the united states if you look at it that way where we need some some leader would be the largest corporation on the planet and i just can't imagine that anybody who's running for office even donald trump who's i'm sure a great business person however um i just can't envision anybody being able to actually manage a corporation with 330 million people and trillions of dollars so bureaucracy too yeah i mean i listen i i i love the united states i think this country is an amazing place and i think it we should go back to to that freedom that allowed us to be that amazing place i do not believe that there is somebody in washington writing down you know some magic

scroll that'll somehow protect us or do something. We just need our freedom. To get to that point, you mentioned going back to what was good, but we're going to go forward to a new envisioning of what was good or what is good. How would you define that? We need a new vision for it, but we should go back to the Constitution. I just don't think that we need this level of micromanagement. And I think with technology today, we could really

achieve it without necessarily having this. I mean, what does your local government do? And I ran for a seat in a local government in Miami-Dade County. We have 3 million people. And a $10.3 billion budget, that was billion with a B,

that is larger than nations. That is larger than nations. That's larger than El Salvador that has, you know, same amount of people and a $6 billion budget. What do those local people do? What exactly are they achieving for you? Do we have transportation in Miami-Dade County? We do not. Nothing worthwhile.

I mean, it's terrible. Do they run anything well? No, they don't. And so what are you getting for all of these taxes that you're giving up? What are we doing here? And I just, it's terrible. Do they run anything well? No, they don't. And so what are you getting for all of these taxes that you're giving up? What are we doing here? And I just, I'm sorry, I don't see it. I think that we really need to think this through. We've been giving up our freedoms more and more and more each day for what?

I mean, are you getting your money's worth? Do you feel like you're getting your money's worth? The problem is I don't know. I don't know where the money's going. I sent a check to the government. It disappears into the ether. I can tell you on the local level, Miami-Dade County, we pay for all sorts of things that you would, you would probably just be.

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And I think that's something that everybody, you know, I want people to have a home. I want people to be well. I don't want them to be out on the streets and living horrible lives. So, our budget is over $45 million a year. Do the number of homeless ever change? No. Do we still have homeless? Yes. That's a cultural problem. Absolutely. And I don't think that with money, we can't solve it with money. I think there's people that do not want to live in this society. And I don't think you're going to just throw money at it and solve that problem. So the number of homeless we

have i think generally is around 3 000 and so when you divide the amount of money we have you know by the people that are unhoused um you come up with some crazy number you could afford apartments for these people like what are we doing with that money administrators yeah but you maintain their jobs bureaucracy making money who are homeless aren't homeless because they can't afford houses. Then why are we paying $45 million out of Miami-Dade County people who pay their taxes? Why is somebody losing their home? Because that's what happens. If you can't afford to pay your property taxes, you will lose your home.

The government will take away your home and put it on the auction and sell it. That is one of the most offensive things that I can think of. Like property tax is disgusting. Once you own a piece of property, you buy it, you shouldn't have to rent it from the government. Like that is insane. And it's obscene amounts of money, obscene amounts of money. And so, you know, you're paying this money every single year. You can't opt out of it. You can't say, you know what, I'm not using any of your systems. I don't use public transportation. You know, I'm not homeless. Like how can I, how can I opt out? I can't opt out of it you can't say you know what i'm not using any of your systems i don't use public transportation you know i'm not homeless like how can i how can i opt out i can't so if i can't afford to to maintain my house the government will take it from me and um so i'm

paying for you know all these services and it's just wrong so you people will pay for homeless people through taxes and then they if they can't afford their own home they will the government will take their home away from them because they they spent their house money on other people's homelessness. That's why I decided to run in the first place. I lived in my grandfather's house when I couldn't afford, you know, when I had a child at 21, and I couldn't afford to live, you know, like, and I moved in with my grandfather, and he was like, hey, can you take care of the bills? And, you know, you can live here for free.

And I realized property taxes, my grandfather couldn't pay for it. He he would have been out on the street and that's generally who is affected the most it's the elderly it is people who have some type of disability it is somebody who's going through hard times medical you know medical difficulties they lose their homes because they couldn't pay for all the wish lists that the government those people who you elect you know that sit there and are just like you know know, they don't take public transportation. They have security provided by government, provided by the police. They have all these things.

And they make these decisions for you. And if you don't comply, you will lose your home. One potential solution would be to, we could install lights in the palms of everyone's hands. And as they get closer to turning 30, the light begins to turn red. And then when they turn 30, it flashes red, where we then take them and excise them from society. Wow. That's how we can handle the future.

Of course, we may have to deal with people who try to flee and don't want to undergo. What was it called? I got the darkest. It's Logan's Run. It's from the movie Logan's Run. They called it something, though. I forgot what it's called i got the darkest it's logan's run but what it's from the movie logan's run they called it something though like i forgot what it's called i don't remember yeah like when you turn 30 they called it something like the light on your hand flashes and then you like they kill you i think it's boy if that was the case i'm sorry guys bye i mean everybody in this room i feel the right the oh i'm well i'm well over 30 yeah um the homelessness crisis The homelessness crisis is insane.

The way that it's been handled and talked about is very insane. Michael Schellenberger works out of California, and he really exposed... Carousel. Is that what it was called? The carousel. Yeah, they called it carousel. I think it was Schellenberger that exposed basically the homeless industry, industrial complex. It's an industry, absolutely.

And they receive money every year to fix it it but instead of actually getting homeless people homes they just pay the administrators the bureaucracy to maintain the status quo you still have the same people are still homeless and they keep making every year kicker to to so i'm sorry i'm talking about miami-dade it's what i know so pardon me you know but um in miami-dade county the person who runs the homeless trust which is who has all this money, is Ron Book, who is the largest, what would this be, lobbyist for government. So, I mean, that's, I guess, his reward is he gets to run this thing. And, you know, he's been doing it for, I want to say, about 20 years. You said that there's the same amount of homeless people every year.

Are they new people? Like, are the people getting off the street and the new people are arriving or is it just tough to tell tough to you look at a number it's three thousand but i mean everybody so where i live there's not a whole lot of homeless because they generally live in downtown where you know they have more access to bathrooms and whatnot um so it's hard to tell but we generally you kind of know who you know the homeless guy is everybody knows the guy on the corner. And he's always there. And they come around and they sweep every now and then and remove him and throw out all his stuff, his few possessions.

And it's so sad. It's the saddest thing, honestly. Did they hit him with fire hoses in the morning? No, not in Miami. They were doing that in San Francisco. No, we're not that cruel. We're not there yet. Give it a few.

4 a.m., they just come in and there's video of it. It's tough. It's god awful. Honestly. Were you going to say something, Phil? I think you're about to jump on an idea. Not particularly, no. I do want to talk about this story, though.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's not going to be Donald Trump, nor will it be Joe Biden. The man who will save this world is Elon Musk. I'm being facetious. That's kind of the joke, but I'm also only half joking. Aside from Elon challenging the narrative machine of the ADL, calling out corrupt politicians, securing, not perfectly, but helping people, bring back free expression on social media, Elon Musk, it is being reported now, averted World War Three and may have saved

the planet from nuclear annihilation. The probability of that being the circumstance is probably very, very low, but it just sounds fun. So I want to say it. The story is actually really simple. We have this from The Washington Post. Elon Musk cut Internet to Ukraine's military as it was attacking Russian fleet. So the first story that comes out is that while this major counteroffensive was underway, Elon Musk shuts down Starlink, cutting their communications, stopping the offensive. Elon Musk responded, saying there was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol. The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor. If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation. I wonder if wrong article,

if Ukraine sank Russia's Black Sea fleet using SpaceX, using U.S. weapons and intelligence, would Russia have dramatically escalated the conflict at the time? There is a possibility it may have been the case. I don't know for sure, but Elon Musk refused to provide Starlink to be used by the Ukrainians in this counteroffensive. He may have single-handedly stopped a major escalation, which could have led to World War III. Do you know what the size of the fleet was and the makeup of the fleet in Sevastopol at the time? No, we do know that U.S. provided intelligence to Ukraine to sink their flagship. That actually happened. That happened in the Black Sea in open water.

Yep. Ukraine used U..s weapons and intelligence and i i think it's even unfair to say the u.s sank the flagship of russia's black sea fleet and and ukraine was intending to do more damage and elon musk said i'm not going to assist you with this could you imagine if he did that's crazy he was pretty open in the early days that he didn't want to be involved with the war and i think he was gonna give them he was gonna send starling to ukraine and then they they said no because they wouldn't do it under his terms or something and then he was like okay

then and they're like actually we need it so then he and then he sent it over there it was a long time ago yeah he's trying to protect earth until we can get off of it and go to mars you know the men who built america were not politicians they were businessmen but i'm but i'm curious i mean in terms of the uniparty establishment machine man elon musk is running afoul but it shows the the decay of the uniparty power in that el Musk openly defies them, does not allow them to wage war using his infrastructure. This is unprecedented. If you look at Twitter before Elon, they

gleefully gave the government anything they wanted. I'm optimistic, man. He's making me into a bigger fan. Social media is part of the CIA. I'm looking at a restoration of true American values of decentralization of power and for the longest time we had an authoritarian

uniparty that did whatever it wanted regardless of the constitution now you look at all of their devices, you look at the activist base you look at the narrative machine and they're failing across the board people tweeting about how the ADL no longer has any power they say all these people who are

white supremacists, and everyone laughs. No one cares anymore. They have been defanged. It's kind of like the Uniparty, when two Uniparties go at it, it creates an opportunity for a revolution. That's what happened with...

Two Uniparties? Yeah. You don't need a revolution. Revolution's a bad word. What happened with the American founding fathers is that there was a Uniparty of the British, and there was the Uniparty of the french that is completely they went at each other and the result was a liberation they were they were totally different countries though yeah they were

they were like two separate like they were monarchs they were monarchs they were literal uniparties and now we have the american uniparty the liberal economic order and the chinese ruse liberal like or not liberal but i see what you're saying and they're clashing in ukraine so now there's an opportunity for like businessmen to step in and create something new i i see what you what you are saying like the thought that the unilateral rule of the of the united states clashing with other authoritarians but russia may be aligned with china and bricks and everything but when you get to the global scale it's not a uniparty there's greater conflict between nations i suppose the ccp's uniparty and the british party refers to

in the united states the democrats and republicans that are secretly aligned and pretend to be opposed to yeah well the chinese communist party is literally a uniparty that runs that country but the united states and china are not aligned so it's not a global uniparty it's no no it's two uniparties going at each other so that's why i think it's an opportunity for for the private sector to be like while you guys quabbleibble, we're going to create something functional. And you see Elon doing it in real time. Maybe we should call it in the United States the former uniparty because they've lost too much power at this point.

You know, look, I know that they're arresting and charging people and all that stuff, but they're really failing at it every step of the way. Their ability to influence is weakening drastically every week. Yeah, I just watched Mideh Hassan interview Vivek Ramaswamy, and there's lag. It's MSNBC 2023, and they still have lag in their video conference. Well, it's always been the case. Yo, bro, it has. Like, I use Zoom.

There's no lag. I use Skype. There's no lag. What the hell infrastructure is this archaic dinosaur of a media monolith using that there's still freaking lag, and they can't have a sometimes they can't even figure out stereo and mono like you guys are in one ear and like do you guys remember when cnn did the satellite interview from the same parking lot yeah two people in the same parking lot and they did a satellite interview as if there were

different places so the reason i brought up lag and msnbc is because i think that's just evidence of what you're saying that the uniparty function is crumbling. They're just so behind the times. Oh, the ratings are in the gutter. Their influence is almost gone. The fact that Elon bought Twitter and turned it into X is a huge example of this. They were using Twitter as a weapon to spy on

people, to control, and to influence, and now they've lost it. It's remarkable how much they keep losing, which is why they're getting desperate and trying to remove Trump from the ballot and have him arrested, because they know they're losing. I'd like for the American government to win.

I don't know if there's just one government. I'd like for the American people to win. Me too. I'm on that team. You know what? I will say that we're winning, the American people are winning, when Assange is freed,

when we have Edward Snowden back in the U.S. without fear of him going to jail for a long time when people like Ross Ulbricht are free. Like, I hear what you're saying, and I want to believe it, but we're not there quite yet. We just sentenced a man to 22 years in prison, Enrique Tarrio,

which I don't agree with him, you know, necessarily, but what did he do? He wasn't even in the capitol building like what are we doing here agreement is entirely irrelevant i'm right i'm not trying to like to even discuss whether or not you agree actually blunts the point it doesn't matter it does not matter however internet people will then be like oh my god you're a fan i mean i i was already called you know during my campaign i took a picture with somebody and they were like rebel in their contempt welcome

their contempt i i do absolutely but i'm just saying i don't support the proud boys however you know what they've done to this guy is horrible absolutely horrible and if they can do it to him they can do it to you and that's the problem if they're going to come after people it's going to be people like us in this room it's going to be people who are speaking out and saying things and if they can put enrique tarrio who three i don't know five years ago i didn't even know who the guy was and all of a sudden he's he deserves 22 years in prison i don't know well it's gonna people to stay is that what he texted people to go is that what he texted

people to go do something if i text you to go do something like are you gonna do it the defense said that he wasn't in contact with anyone that day and apparently the prosecution and the media is reporting that he said don't leave but we i don't know the context to which he said don't leave was it the day before they were like hey we're in dc which we do is like well don't leave and now they're making it seem like he was saying, stay in the Capitol. The defense said he didn't contact them at any point. I will say, if it comes to the point where they begin

going beyond the scope of, you know, Owen Schroyer, who was on the ground, and they're saying his speech warrants a prison sentence. He was on the ground, and that's their pretext for the arrest. If they escalate to the point where they're coming after pundits, I would argue that out of anyone in this room ian's the first person they'd target man you know why well i got long hair bro and i'm a wizard this happened with

uh when i was with luke kutkowski in chicago and the police planted we believe they planted drugs in the apartment we're staying at they target people who are less likely to be able to muster up legal defense funds so if they wanted to disrupt a show like this and make claims about rhetoric or inflammatory things uh would they go after me well that's probably a bad idea would create a huge pr press storm it would create a huge backlash we generate tons of money and it would create a huge legal fight would they go after Phil Labonte, multi-platinum recording artist? I mean, that could create a huge wave across the entertainment industry. Ian, on the other hand, you are the least likely out of anyone here to be able to muster up a strong legal defense. Granted, we would defend you.

What I'm saying is I don't think anyone's going to come and try to arrest you. I'm saying the target of who they go after is who can we get easily. Enrique Tarrio, the Proud Boys, most people don't know who he is. They're not going to... Look, they're waiting to go after Trump until they can build everything up on the ground because they know a direct move against Trump

is... It makes him millions of dollars. It strengthens him. It builds his base. It's happening. It's literally happening i i've never been a trump supporter and all of a sudden i'm like you know what i'm going for the political prisoner like that's it who else right vivek ramaswamy yes i do like vivek also however is he going to be the nominee but you look at january 6th and they go after people you've never heard of that don't make the press and you don't even know are in jail and these people try as they might can't get the word out there's too many of them

this is what they do one at a time then they announce two and a half years later that owen schroyer will be criminally charged they're they're they're starting from the bottom and moving upwards it's very much like um that story i thought we talked about eBay. You know, when eBay was started, it was yellow and they wanted to change the background to white, but everyone got mad, so they did it one step at a time over the course of a year. They don't want to come out immediately, right after January 6th, and say, Donald Trump, you're under arrest. It would create

chaos. They got to go for the easier, low hanging fruit, which is lower income people who are confused. And then what do they do? They go to this 37-year-old woman who was walking around the Capitol waving a flag whenever we went in the building, and they say, you're going to go to prison for eight years for a felony charge for terrorism, or you're going to write a letter saying Trump made you do it, and then we're going to say you can go home right now.

Time served. And how many people have taken this deal? How is that any different to our regular justice system? Well, no, but this is my point. My point is, if they go head to head with Trump, Trump rallies his base. Sure. If they weaken his base by getting his supporters

to write letters saying Trump did this and ordered me to do it, and then use it for propaganda, knowing these people, no one will ever hear their names. Also, they're not going to be in the news. They won't raise money. It's also laid that base. Now that you've heard that all these people have been charged, if you're a lay person,

you know, you go to work every day, you got the kids, you got stuff going on. You're not really paying attention. You have no idea what these people have been charged with. You hear, I don't know how many people have been arrested now all of a sudden it's like an actual thing it's like well all those people arrested of course they had to have done something terrible yep so it adds to that level of yeah they did something they get of course you got to go for trump because he's the orchestrator of all these people they get enough people to sign letters saying trump ordered me to do it then they say we have sworn witness testimony from 372 people saying Trump instructed them to do it.

Under duress, of course. But is that not matter in the argument that it's it's it's part of the strategy. So ultimately, my point is, if they start going after personalities, Owen Schroyer, I think, proves this point. One, they have a pretext. He was on the Capitol grounds. Shouldn't have done it. He could have been in prison for three months. That's ridiculous. But they're a pretext. He was on the Capitol grounds. Shouldn't have done it. Did you go to prison for three months? That's ridiculous.

But they're using his speech. The speech is opening the door to targeting other personalities who are online. The next person we'll likely see charged is going to be someone who maybe has 100, 200,000 followers of subscribers. And they're going to say they advocated for, incited, and instructed people to commit a crime. I'm going to tell you right now there were people on twitter on youtube and other social platforms before january 6th who posted videos advocating for people to engage in direct conflict in really like violent conflict and there's no question about it i think people, some of whom have instantly flipped and become total DeSantis supporters, probably flipped because they know, uh-oh, they're next in line.

After the J6s are on the ground, they're going to come out and say, you committed an act of sedition by making these videos advocating for insurrection against the United States government. You know, it's worth noting, too, like for the entire time that Antifa was rioting and stuff, they were they had signs that said that they wanted revolution, that they wanted to tear down the government. They want, you know, that no, no. What is it? No, no wall, no border, no USA at all or whatever it was. They literally want to see the United States be, you know, dissolved and stuff like that. And it was completely acceptable they did this stuff while they were firebombing a government building they were they were saying these kind

of things while they were attacking the the uh white house on whatever that was it may 29th or something like that was the uh the when they had to move trump to the uh bungalow under the uh under the white house but either way, the point is these kind of threats and stuff like that, these things have been going on for a long time. And it's not new. The only reason that they're going after the people that were at January 6th

is because they have the wrong politics. They are the wrong people. It's acceptable to be anti-government if you're anti-government for the left. There are people that have bombed Congress that Bill Clinton pardoned. I forget the woman's name. She was a communist. Yep.

But they literally set off a bomb in the criminal the the da will not be involved in the criminal prosecution of the antifa terrorists who were firebombing the the police hq burning down homes pulling vehicles and shooting at cops the democrats are bowing out and saying we won't we won't charge them they're literally saying that you don't matter that what matters here is that institution i mean if government is more important than the people then that's a statement i think they're outright saying that if you do these things we're on your side yeah because i mean i know that there's people that don't believe it but there are actual communists in congress people that are the squad are all dsa members or at least they they caucus with the dsa they caucus with communists there there is no significant light between AOC and any of the DSA members that are actual members of the DSA. There's no significant difference in their policy decision or what they're looking for.

I don't know enough about the differentials. But socialists are different than communists. I would imagine that they didn't want state control. The goal of socialism is communism. Vladimir Lenin. The goal of socialism. You know what Lenin. The goal of socialism. You know what communism is like? You guys ever see From Dusk Till Dawn?

Yes. Yeah, you know when... It's Cheech, I think. He's outside and he's talking about all the beautiful women that are inside and all the different kinds of women's parts that are available. And then they're like, we got to go inside there. But then when they walk in, it's a bunch of vampires who are trying to kill them. That's communism.

Outside, they're like, dude, if you here we got pizza we got video games we got fast cars everybody gets to have anything you want what do you want you want open source code we got open source codes we got five open source codes phil we got a big stage for you to play you're gonna get everything you've ever wanted you walk in the door they lock it behind you and then they go and now we're gonna kill you know what i don't believe vladimir lenin when he said that that socialism is the road to communism i feel like he twisted socialism for his own gain kind of like saying liberalism is the road to fascism he did not he did not he meant it that's what he thought he used it he believed it he killed a bunch of people it was his road it was

his road to communism like you know family know, family history here and personal history. They never promise you communism. When you look at Cuba, you look at Venezuela. There was never a point where they're like, you know what? I am a communist. They always go for the, no, it's just a little bit of socialism. Everything's going to be great. We're all going to share.

Everything's going to be fantastic. You want health care? I got your health care. You want this? You want a home? i've got you they promised this this land it's exactly like tim just said it is that promise so i guess socialized services is different than socialism so yes and we should debate what systems should be socialized so there's there's there's there's things that conservatives argue so that way or in order to prevent a policy or whatever. But a lot of the social services that we, myself as, you know, personally, I'm kind of against this stuff. But they were made with the intent to diffuse the desire for the united states to become a more socialist country

so in the progressive era like the first half of the 28th century uh fascism and socialism were all the rage right state the state was in charge the government could do things and we because we were now industrial countries and stuff we could you know the state itself could do all kinds of massive projects etc etc and everybody was buying it um so the the the i don't know why i just slipped out of my head what we were talking about what you're saying before communism communism yeah but the the point is like you say they were using socialist tactics to diffuse the desire for socialism. Yeah, because the world kind of was on fire for fascism and communism because and socialism, because before the end of World War Two, fascism didn't have the same kind of dirty, dirty connotations that it does. Neither did communism, to be fair.

And these were new ideas. They were innovations that people were all excited about because we could you know, we could we could remake man and remake the world because we had all this power because of the industrial and and the thing is all those policies actually there's an argument that those policies actually prevented the united states from falling into an actual socialist uh situation because the the government stepped in said well we'll use social programs but we're going to keep you know the things that are that keep us free so i'm not sure if i think it was you know the best option but that is an argument that you guys uh you guys know there's a statue of lennon discover the magic of bad mgm casino where the excitement is always on deck pull up

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They'll pull down Hans Christian Haag, who fought to end slavery. They'll tear down the Founding Fathers. But not him. The problem with Lennon is he looked so cool, dude. Whoa. Bald, just a shadow goatee, just angular. It's kind of like the problem with socialism in general. Yeah, it looks

great. Like, Lennon is so, what a unique looking dude. They've modeled video game character. I mean, I think that the reason I think he looks cool is because I've seen video characters modeled after him. 16 foot tall statue of Lennon in Seattle. What a guy. 16 foot. They even had to exaggerate that. Was he like

in Fremont? I lived in Fremont briefly. I don't even know if we should start down the Lenin road right now. No, we shouldn't. We definitely shouldn't. Lenin is like Marxism. Leninism is the idea that has led to all sorts

of killing. So Lenin's perspective was socialism lennon was like march is wrong socialism will not just happen right the idea was you had feudalism then you had capitalism and then once capitalism made enough product and stuff then you would have socialism and it would just happen right and then after social once you had socialism then the people would start realizing that socialism works and then that the government itself is redundant because people are doing the things that need to be done not the government and then no was that sorry yeah apparently it's for sale and the statue i'll get it and uh in 1996 they wanted 150 000 for it, which of the equivalent today would be $280,000 for it. What say we buy it

and then destroy it? I so badly want to do this. I love this. I want to leave it. I mean, it's a historical artifact. Just stick it somewhere. That is a fair point. I'm not...

Just buy it and I'll pee on it. I'll pee on it. I'm into that. I think you need to do more than just pee on it. You know what I would love to do? You should paint it. Make it look like him

in real life or something no put like a clown face on it yeah it'd be crazy buy it different wigs and stuff on him buy it and half bury it at Freedomastan oh it's just heads sticking out

but charge people money to defile it you can walk by and just smack it with a shoe for a buck chicken eggs at it we could put it

in a shooting range and you could pay money dude you should hold on to it to come in like any good statue do you think they'd sell it to me if I told them like my intention is to bring it in a shooting range and you could pay money. Dude, you should hold on to it. Like any good statue. Do you think they'd sell it to me if I told them my intention is to bring it to a shooting range? We should stop talking about this right now. After show only.

We just want to repaint it like a Statue of Liberty. I got a question for you guys about the president. Do you think, because I was thinking last night, a lot of the people that watch this show enjoy Donald Trump, so I don't want to be too much of a dig on him. But last night I was like, I feel like voting for Trump right now is like the lazy man's vote. A lot of the people that watch this show enjoy Donald Trump, so I don't want to be too much of a dig on him. But last time I was like, I feel like voting for Trump right now is like the lazy man's vote. It's just like, go in there and just do it. I don't even know. But Vivek is the intellectual.

It's the challenging route because he actually has a plan. You have to think about it and actually learn things to understand how to manipulate our government properly. Vivek was talking about the stuff with Infowars and stuff like that. So another good thing about Vivek is he's talking about these you know these kind of things that other politicians don't seem to to be talking sorry super complicated stuff too like it takes hours to listen to it and then you might have a piece of it but like that's the challenge i want to throw out there that vivek also said that he would pardon ross day one ross albrecht ross Albrecht, Silk Road. And I think that that is, for me,

that's a number one reason to vote for him. I do like what he's doing. I do like that he's going to these shows. And being real. Which politician in America is real? And I think Vivek is. He's coming to all these shows and doing the work. It's real easy to get a quick soundbite and just something that your manager gave you and like, blah, blah, blah.

I think everybody should have this. And then he's actually there explaining things. He's also talking about cutting lots of government agencies. And I love that part. Should we launch a Give, Send, go for the purpose of purchasing the lenin statue recover for recovering the statue we must recover it from the capitalist oppressors that have colonized his likeness they're selling it for money is really hilarious by the way it's like we made it and we're going to sell it to you for a lot of money i mean six figures this is no joke you could buy a house for that money i don't know i mean that's a lot of money for a big pile of but i'm i gotta tell you rock i hear me out i'm fairly confident that if i bought this and then brought it to a big piece

of rural land and said for five dollars you can defile it in any way you want take my money oh i'd make so much take my money all of it just let me let, please. This one's for me, and this one's for my dad. There would be Floridian pilgrimages of people being like... Why don't we just put it in Florida? Let's put it in the capital of Latin America, Miami, and let's just, you know, let the people that have had to flee

their countries in recent times take care of it for you. Take care of it. If it was the bald statue of Lenin, I'd be into it, but he's got a hat on. I don't have a lot of it for you. I like that. Take care of it. If it was a bald, if it was the bald statue of Lenin, I'd be into it, but he's got a hat on. And I don't have a lot of respect

for bald guys that wear hats. We can get rid of that hat. There's, what is the nonprofit, the Victims of Communism? Victims of Communism. It would be cool to like, buy it and donate it to them

and say like, do with it what you will. I love this. Make it special. I think you should definitely do a Give, Send, Go and see if people donate to do it. Get people to, you know. If I were to do were to do a give send go it would be like there it would have to be to give

it to the victims of communism memorial or whatever so i would i like in fact i would reach out to a how about you use it to stop current communism or at least educate people on the current communism because communism isn't over but we've got an island 90 miles from our shores that is full-on communist. It's adapting to the monetary systems, too. Chinese communism isn't real. It's not communism. People's communism is real communism. What I'm saying is I would not crowdfund to buy this to personally own.

If we do a crowdfund, it's so that an anti-communist organization can get ownership of it. Like, I'm saying, like, I don't like the idea. We do a give, send, go. Everyone gives money, which effectively gives me. I don't want the statue. Like, if I was going to buy the statue on my own, I'd buy it on my own. And I'd charge admission for being able to defile it because that's hilarious. Turning him into a capitalist spectacle for capitalists to make money off of is just, oh, it's icing on the cake.

I love it. So it's a possibility. The first question is, will they actually sell it to someone they know is going to defile it? But I think they legitimately would sell it to the victims of communism or some non-profit. But it's also a question, too, would

a non-profit like the victims of communism want to be involved in something so crude? Would that be besmirching the memory of those who were killed by these monsters? No, this was created in Czechoslovakia during the Soviet Union's reign in 1988, and then after

the dissolution of the USSR, it was brought to America in 1993. So I don't think this has anything to do with people that loved communism. This is people that fled the Soviet Union. Who made it? It was made by a Bulgarian-born Slovak sculptor named Emil Venkov.

I don't know what his communist ties were. I'm just, you know, it would be hilarious to see what Antifa would do if we're like, it's ours now. They'd be very confused. It's made of bronze. Maybe we could polish it. I think I have to buy it. What am I alive for if not to buy it dude what what am i alive

for if not to buy the statue of lenin i love so that you do so that we can topple it have phil labonte stand on top of it he's got like a thing behind him you can sit on maybe you can set up a drum kit no there's something i really i'm gonna pursue this because you just think like um i look Because I look at the great works. I look at the... I play Civilization, right? And in Civilization, every so often you get great figures. So it's like you'll get a little dude and he'll be called like musician. And then you can place him somewhere and he makes culture. But every so often you'll get like...

Like Beethoven appears. And he's a guy you can go and then create a great work. And the great work creates cultural influence. And I think about where are we today where's all of the significant significant cultural stuff that matters to people of this generation i saw a meme and it's a it's a it's a bunch of cassette tapes and it said all of these uh albums came out within like four months of each other it's like oh yeah everything awesome right use your illusion one and two pearl jam nirvana uh never mind it's like some type of pilot bad mode bad

motor finger sound garden all yeah sound good year dude it's crazy and so i'm thinking today what what have we done this year what has anyone done where it's like we're gonna remember that crazy thing oliver anthony i'll say for sure i'm not saying nothing's been done i'm just saying like think about the things that we we should create to create that memory and that cultural waypoint, as it were. So I kind of feel like, you know, Phil Labonte standing on the ruin of a shattered Lenin statue singing in mockery of communism is one of those things to be done. Light it from underneath. That's going to look wild. Oh, yeah, put some lights underneath the thing.

It's like free with like a ladder on the back or steps on the back so you can climb up onto it really easy. Timcast anti-commie shirt. You know, I don't like the destruction of statues, Confederate

or otherwise. The burning of the Library of Alexandria is a horror story to me. If someone's like, you want to hear a horror story, you

tell me about ghosts and demons, I'm like, oh, that's cool, but you tell me about the burning of the Library of Alexandria, and I'm like, oh, oh, oh, and I'm hiding, like, no, oh that's cool but you tell me about the burning of the library of alexandria and i'm like i'm like i'm hiding like no the knowledge so you know destroying the statue for no reason just like toppling it is stupid but doing something

cultural artistic with it is important you know one of the things i like about that civilization reference you're talking about great people when your society produces a great person beethoven steve jobs whoever when you get multiple great people all produced at the same time in history, they can come together to create a golden age. And that's what's happened with the Internet. We're in a golden age. We're in a time of immense crisis, but we're in a golden age while we're suffering the crisis. So it's that much easier. We've got to use it while we have it because every age comes to an end.

Maybe we write a song and then we can use it in the music video like i'm thinking like can we create an artistic work that represents you know we we we deride and explain how bad communism is and there's a there's a message that i think people often say that doesn't get enough attention it doesn't permeate enough and it's that the communists were infinitely worse or i shouldn't say infinitely but were substantially worse in many ways than the nazis the nazis committed probably one of the most like evil atrocities but the communists had this long drawn out 70 years or longer 100 years even still to this day with what china has done to the uighur muslims it's just this endless history of hundreds of millions of dead the holland more happened

before the holocaust right and these things are horrifying and evil. So at least saying like, guys, we get it. We hate Nazis. But can we also add communism into the list of evil people? I don't understand how we don't have communism. I mean, I don't know, depending on whatever number you want to use for how many people perished under Nazism. But communism, that number is so much more uh maybe 200 million people i mean it's just so big oh oh my god dylan butter says buy the statue

put a chicken bridge over it yeah and play lenin getting crapped on live that's a really good idea just him like half out of the ground. Dude, the Lennon statue in Chicken City would be the best thing ever. Poor chickens just having to deal with this thing. No, the chickens would put the perch right above it where they sleep and they just crap in their sleep and it plops right onto Lennon.

A Lennon statue in Chicken City. Love it. Oh, perfect. I'll take a look at it. To be to be completely honest i mean it's not like i just have 300 grand to buy a statue of lenin with because you gotta ship it too it's right and shipping that's going to be hefty how much is this that's going to be a serious cost to ship you get a you get a bunch of people to do a road trip you go pick it up that's why that's why i'm like i really do think we could muster up a crowd fund between it's not just about like what this show

can do but if I reached out to a bunch of other personalities said guys let's promote this and get a non-profit to buy the statue and then do something critical of communism with it we'd raise that money overnight I agree and I love that idea I think that there is communism still today and a lot of people just don't know don't know know what it is, don't know how miserable it is, don't understand the crisis. Again, going back to Miami, over a million people who have fled communist regimes live in Miami today. And so, yeah, you got to live it or talk to people who've lived it or do something like this. Buy a statue and make sure people know what's going on. Is the reason it fails and just always has failed is because it sounds great everyone's going to get enough

and then it gets to the point where you have so many people we don't have enough resources now everyone can't have enough it fails because human beings are not geared to be socialist well in small groups we are like in a family. But that's your desire to give to your children, to give to your wife, to give to the people that you love. Now, what desire do you have if I tell you, hey, I really need some money and I want it because I want it. What drives you to go make that money for me? If you were my neighbor and you were like, I want some money because I'm going to plant some corn, I could see like... Ian, you're talking about a concept that has to be at least national, right? So you're talking about millions of people.

And things work differently at different resolutions, right? So the way that a family works, there's only four five you know six whatever ten in your immediate family communism's fine for that you know because the people that you're supporting need you to take care of them children can't go out and support themselves and take care of themselves that works but once you get to like your neighborhood you can't have a communist neighborhood you can might have some kind of you can't have a communist neighborhood. You can might have some kind of you can have social programs or social get togethers and your neighbors can help each other. But it can't be just like, hey, Joe makes 100 grand and Bill makes 30. So we're going to take, you know, Joe's money and give some of it to Bill and stuff.

And that's the way that it ends up working out. That ends up creating animosity. It ends up making mistrust. It ends up making people not feel like working there's this idea called the tragedy of the commons right so if no one owns something no one takes care of it because they don't feel like they're responsible for it that's one of the things that property does right if you own something then you feel like it is a part of you on some level and it gives you the desire to take care of it, to make it better, to build on it.

If you don't have to take care of it, what happens? Everybody pisses on the seat because you don't have to clean the toilet. Public toilets are always a mess because no one takes care of them. Like I was thinking, then does it break down in a little society because communism doesn't work after 60 people or something because there's someone in charge? It doesn't work after one right and there's always somebody in charge because like when you remove the incentive to do anything because everyone's getting the same thing then it becomes about forcing people to do something and then people are appointed to force other people to do stuff and then yeah before long it just like i mean just think about it if you like what get what incentivizes you to do things right

and it there has to be something otherwise why leave your house why you have to leave your house and make money because otherwise the electricity is going to be turned off you you know you're not going to be able to afford things you're not going to be able to afford food so you go out you you do your job and you come home with your money and you pay for things if everything was guaranteed to you light electricity everything you, you just you had it. What's going to incentivize you to leave and go be productive and go make things and go be part of the society? You know, it's kind of like what happened in COVID. And I think to this day, a lot of people have been talking about like there's some something shifted in our in our culture a little bit where people just maybe don't necessarily want to do a job, you know, because you were incentivized to stay home. And and it kind of it's awesome. I mean, great,

you get to stay home and live your life. And somebody else is going to provide for you. And it just doesn't work. Things don't just magically appear that food at the supermarket doesn't magically just go up. It's not like somebody in the back of your supermarket, of your local supermarket is just like, you know, these things magically come out of something. You have to grow that food. You have to produce that food. Who's going to do that?

Do you really think people want to go work the fields because they love it? Yeah, it sounds like, well, it would be profit motive, basically, is what gets people to do it. Yes, you need a profit. And also profit is the perfect way to regulate the market. You know exactly what somebody's willing to pay for something. You're willing to pay $1,000 for a cell phone

because you find value in that cell phone, right? But if I was like, hey, this Apple phone, whatever, isn't $20,000, maybe you'd be like, I don't really need that. There's a price point that is the right point that you're willing to pay I don't really need that. There's a price point that is the right point that you're willing to pay for. So that, you need that. And do you think that you need to let people suffer?

I think, I'll just tell you this. I think that you need to let people suffer. And the ones that pick themselves up and strive for something better are the success ones that send their genetics on to the next generation. And the ones that can't get out of the suffering die off and their genetics no longer with us. You ever look at the Instagram page, like, what is it? Nature is metal?

Yes, dude. So one of the things that that page constantly says, right, and shows you all kinds of stuff, animals getting eaten all the time, and he's like, look, nature's not fair. It's not. It's brutal. And the cheaters and the most brutal are rewarded and so what you need to do is you need to have your society be in harmony with the fact that the world is unfair and i'm not saying accept that it's unfair and just be like oh well this is the way

it is and just ignore it but when i say be in harmony means you have to understand that the world is unfair. So you have to design a system that allows for those things to happen without destroying the system. Right. And that's one of the things that individuals that are free can do. If you have decentralized and you should you understand decentralized more than most people but if you have decentralized power one person cheating or taking advantage of someone else or whatever doesn't ruin the system but if you have centralized power then the incentive for the people in charge is to do whatever the hell they want because who's going to stop them look at the way that government's acting now right the Our government isn't a communist government. It's not a totalitarian communist government.

But the government currently is persecuting people that have bad opinions. Because who's going to stop them? You know, I was just thinking we should probably do a Kickstarter for the Lenin statue shooting range thing. Which would undoubtedly be rejected by Kickstarter. But it would just be really funny to have that video where we're like, our plan is to start a business that brings people together. Our plan? Buy a statue of Lenin and then let people come to a shooting range where they can fire guns at it.

What's the statue made of? Bronze. Bronze. But we've got a Barrett M82, and we would charge like $100 for it. Got to be at least like 100 yards away. No, I think if we were going to a hundred bucks for it. Gotta be at least like a hundred yards away. No, I think if we were going to allow anyone to fire the M82 at it, it'd have to be like a thousand dollars for one round. Fair. Because it destroys the statue, like severely.

And, you know, like if people are firing.22s at it or whatever, you can go forever and enjoy it. I wouldn't let them fire.22 unless you're far away because they're going to fly out, ricochet out, Brad. Put it with the chickens because them shitting on Lennon's head is way better.

Fraternity. People can take pictures with it. Bearing in waste up and then letting the chickens come in and you can come and take pictures.

Yeah. Yeah. And then they're less likely to ban our Kickstarter, but it would still be hilarious to make the Kickstarter video

where it's like your contribution today. What do you get? You know, for a $10 contribution, you get one ticket to hilarious to make the Kickstarter video where it's like, your contribution today, what do you get? You know, for a $10 contribution, you get one ticket to come to Lennon Land where you can watch chickens take a dump on his head. Oh, please don't call it Lennon Land. Please. We do not need to, like, no, no. Unless

it's like Lennon Sucks Land, then maybe. We can call it Utopia. I was just thinking that. Just call it Utopia. Welcome to Utopia. Yeah, that's actually funny. Chicken shitty. Yeah. Living in the shitty. Yeah. Chicken shitty. I was just thinking that just call it Utopia welcome to Utopia yeah that's actually funny chicken shitty you know yeah living in the shitty

yeah chicken shitty and like do you have a dog we can allow your dog to come in and you're in it on his statue

there you go for a five dollar fee I still like Phil doing it more no but you can too that'd be a good video of just him yelling like full on

it feels so right from behind the statue of Len so I guess the reason why it's still up is because it's on private property and it's privately owned It feels so right! From behind. The statue of Len. So I guess the reason why it's still up is because it's on private property and it's privately owned. Cool. It's been very controversial with a lot of people saying it's like putting a Klansman up and putting... I bet they're so ready to get rid of it. We're going to go to Super Jets!

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join us, become a member, to watch the members only portion of this show and uh we will have you guys call into the show and you can talk to us and our guests it'll be good fun but for the time being let's uh read your super chats i'm not your buddy guys as i believe your theory on 2020 and lockdowns is challenged by them wanting to re-implement those measures. It wasn't anger, but rather opportunity for fewer integrity measures. Throw in media hysteria mixed with cult members and you got willing lone wolves committing fraud.

Interesting. Alright. Corey Anderson says, where is Will Chamberlain? You need to bring in lawyers to talk about all this BS. Where is Will? Will's a good friend, but he works for Ron DeSantis. Still, he does? Yeah.

Does he want to work for Ron? Will! But as you all know, DeSantis' campaign has barred any of their people from coming on this show. So lame. Take that for what you will. All right, we'll grab some more.

Andre Tukulescu? Fun fact canada has a mandatory retirement age of 75 for senators and it's useless after the bill c18 debacle which has removed news from meta and google canada has now effectively banned wd-40 beginning 2024 help what really wow what do we got jm says yo timmy what up thanks for joining raymond g salen jr says ignorance rules until illegals are sleeping on your sidewalks they voted for it and this is the noble life of democracy tim the belief in humanity even though humanity is is a screaming selfish mob fair point yeah we didn't get into the story uh eric adams saying that new york is doomed It made me feel really good.

He's like, we got 10,000 immigrants coming every month. This city can't handle it. It's over. And it's just funny because it's like, well, you said if they voted for you, you'd make it a sanctuary city and maintain that policy. And you did. And now it's all burning down around you. So, you know, you did it to yourself.

Oop. You reap what you sow, man. Bullseye Ben says, to New York City, you made your bed, now sleep in it. That's right. Blah, blah, blah says,

watch the vid about Baldur's Gate. With all the wokeness stuff being at the forefront, I think being able to get screwed by a bear was overlooked. LOL. Yeah, was it actually a bear though? Because druids can turn into animals and stuff

so it's like it i'm playing balder's gate the mechanics are awesome it's a crazy game because you can literally do anything like you you're you the main character you can die and then just play the game without it and carry on the storyline as somebody else. It's really interesting, and I think it's a lot of fun. And, you know, it's an interesting question about these identities in character creation because if they truly made a game with an open character creation, you could literally create any character within the confines of the story's universe,

in which case, if it's possible to exist, you can make it. So, like, you could literally create a character who's schizophrenic. That's the future of character creation in video games. I gotta buy this game. Baldur's Gate? Yeah. Why? So I can at least know what

the heck you guys are talking about. Isn't this the one you and Ian are playing? Uh, Ian, yeah, Ian was playing it first, but I guess he stopped. I've been playing it, I've got about six hours in. My biggest problem with it right now, so it's basically Dungeons & Dragons, and so it's a really awesome mechanic

that it's like if you are in combat and you fire an arrow at someone, it's like your attack versus their defense or whatever, so there's actually a D20, a dice roll, and stuff like that. The problem I'm having with it is that the path I'm taking in the game naturally is

charisma and persuasion. Meaning I'm succeeding by talking my way through everything which creates a problem because my characters are savvy but can't fight. So it's like I'm in a level 7 area with level 3 dudes

and I'm successfully navigating all of the conflict through persuasion. Going to try and talk your way out of the dragon and get one hit. And then it comes to a point where there's somewhere where you can't avoid the conflict, and it's like you instantly lose. And I'm like, but come on, man. If I'm leveling up through persuasion and charisma and not focusing on combat, tell me that before. Because I had to go back and reload a save like 30 minutes prior so I'm like oh okay that's just bad game design

yeah like I walk out of the I don't want to give too much of the game away but I walk out of a room and there's like 12 NPCs instant combat and I'm like well I'm dead you maybe need to do side quests to build up get up to level 4 or something that's fine and I understand that like with most RPGs.

But it's just an issue of in most RPGs, as you're progressing through the story, your combat is leveling up. And then you might say the next level is a little high, so I better level up my guys. But I am leveling up my guys. I'm just leveling them up in other ways.

And so it's like, I'm running into that wall. But it's fine. I get it. Yeah, I just started it too. I'm enjoying it so far so it's like, you know, I'm running into that wall. But it's fine. I get it. Yeah, I just started it too. I'm enjoying it so far. It's like Divinity 2, but less cartoony. If you guys ever played Divinity series, it's kind of like a King's Quest. Like a talking crab with like a crown. Yeah, I love King's Quest.

Larian Studios, who make Baldur's Gate 3, their earlier two games were the Divinity and Divinity 2 games, and they're like 98 out of 100 top level games. Just like Baldur's Gate top- Divinity 2 games and they're like 98 out of 100 top level games just like Baldur's Gate top down isometric but they're more crazy like you can teleport

you know there's tons of stuff Baldur's Gate's more like realistic I am enjoying it it's a lot of fun alright let's grab some more super chats

Troll Ken says you should have Thomas E. Woods on the show he's a historian and podcaster whose work inspired the Mises Caucus

he's a friend too super knowledgeable but also a historian and podcaster whose work inspired the Mises Caucus. He's a friend, too. Super knowledgeable, but also a fun and conversational guy. Tom Woods is great. Look, we want to do a culture war episode debating communism.

I'd love to get somebody who lived it. You know? I mean, to be fair, Luke did, too. But very briefly. Luke Rutkowski. I haven't heard back

from Zoltan yet. Oh, that'd be amazing. I text him. Oof. Like I said, you're going to be in Miami. I can definitely introduce you to a whole bunch. I mean, that would be super amazing if we did like, maybe we get something with,

we do like one of those panels where you get, you know, you get 10 people to sit down in chairs and you ask them questions about what's going on. That'd be super awesome. Maybe Elad could do it while we're down there. All right, let's grab some more super chats tread bull says phil what would you have said to hinkle if you were here when he was well i mean i'm not here to pick fights with people like i'm this is not my podcast so i'm

not i'm gonna be polite and stuff like that. But I would have drilled him about property rights and what he does to what his plan is to do with the people that dissent because it's always the same plan. Kill him. I don't I don't think he's actually a communist, though. But we'll see if we have that bigger conversation. There are people who are young and naive who are like communism is just when people take care of each other and we share our stuff. It's like, no, no, no, no's not communism somebody's in charge that's the lie they tell you so they can kill your family and steal your stuff yep so but is he naive or is he just evil and doesn't understand because i think that you know ultimately if you are

in favor of this and you know it always ends in people starving and people being killed and stuff you have to be a little evil to to like this to want that i mean it's just yeah they paint it like it's wonderful yeah but i mean come on he's 22 and he's young and whatever but he's not dumb right he objectively ignorant and naive sure there's a difference between the people who are willfully lying and the people who have been tricked and are saying dumb things we can call it the banality of evil in that they're going along with it but the thing about hinkle is i don't even think he is of the banality of evil communism there are people who are like communism is actually good like i've read marx and it's like okay you're the banality

then you've got people who know what it really is and lie to you and that's that's the malice and the abject but what he's saying isn't even communism he was not describing communism at least at least in our conversation yeah i think the best thing to do with hinkle i mean i guess he's got stuff on the internet but it it's probably good to go ahead and just like list off a bunch of things that typically communism. He's talking, he's talking about like regulation. Yeah.

We agreed on that. Like we had a similar vision of like socializing certain aspects of, of our governance, but how we get there is like, do you want to use communism to get there? Do you want to use like voluntarism to get there? Which I, I don't know how you guys feel about that.

The libertarians, what I was like, voluntarism is the way people will do it because they want, but like you're saying earlier, if I don't know how you guys feel about that. The libertarians, what I was like, voluntarism is the way people will do it because they want. But like you were saying earlier, if you don't have incentive, is it just capital? Because when they do nice things for people, because you have an incentive to do it. I mean, I think that it's, it's a cultural thing.

It's, it's, I mean, honestly, being a voluntarist, you do have a level of, of like you do it for your own well-being you don't do things for other people for other people you do it for yourself you feel good when you volunteer i mean i love to volunteer and i'll be the first to say i love to volunteer because it makes me feel good i love to do things for other people it makes me feel good you have to be a little bit of a selfish person even to to give to other people i mean there's an incentive to do it. And yeah, all right. Well, you know, we talked about Tom Woods. I heard him talking about this one time.

There's this odd thing that happens when you purchase something, right? You go to the store and you give them money and they give you the thing or whatever and you both say thank you. Like that's one of the the that's very rare where both people are thanking each other because that both people feel like they have had a good experience in the exchange right you wanted the thing more than you then you wanted the money and the people

that had the thing want the money more than the thing right and that filling the need of another person is part of of what makes uh markets work the fact that you have the ability to fill a need and they can pay you which is that that positive exchange that's why markets work and that's one of the things that's very pro social about about markets that just doesn't exist in command economies, like a socialist system. There's no thank you when you just have it, you know, you go in and get your ticket or if you're sitting in a bread line for hours and stuff to get, you know, just the basics and stuff. So that's one of the things about volunteerism is both people are engaging because they want to in a voluntary way and both people come out feeling like they got at least a decent deal or both people come out feeling like they got screwed and that's how you know that you got a good deal too if you're if the guy you did

business with feels like you took him and you kind of feel like the guy took you well then you probably got a fair deal you know all right the text vet says the trump flag shown is obviously speaking about the u.s not individuals that's why it shows 1776 they're saying trump to win or america is dead it seems fairly obvious as that's what everyone's been saying i agree with that i'd say trump to be freed trump to not be facing this yes trump to win is a whole other scenario i mean is he the best candidate i mean put it to a vote right but to say that he has to win i think that's taking it to the next level i think it should be trump to be free of these charges uh otherwise america is in a bad place sure i can agree to that i don't think that he has to. Then that's starting a whole other thing.

So if Trump doesn't win, does that give you an excuse to now go out and riot? I mean, come on. Isn't that how we got here in the first place? It's just one step at a time, people. Let's let him be free. Let's let the system work itself. Pablo Papano says, Ian, no president can unite the U.S.,

only God and graphene. God's a big part of it and graphene's awesome because that'll give us a unified like an industrial focus as a nation i i actually agree with that i think at this point there i don't think there's any politician that could actually unite the united states no uh i do think there is something to be said about god uniting a people i don't see i don't see how you create a culture of faith in the united states today but if if you were to look back at the past in the united states people hated each other and they fought politically but they all at least shared a moral framework and that is their faith and because of that you know there was cohesion

yeah i see it with judaism islam and christianity all focusing on a on a unit uniface this this one god a shared moral framework creates stability and it doesn't matter who your political leader is if everyone has the same morals they fear if i do something wrong i will be punished by someone else and so it's interesting that faith in a God or religion that has punishment for bad deeds means you're not going to be the liar, the cheater, the stealer, because there is someone who is coming to punish you. Yeah, and it doesn't need to be a president. But I think a human that can translate the ideas of God and graphene or something, you know, whatever it is that unifies the people, if someone can translate that to the people. Like Gandhi, he wasn't the president of India. He was just a guy.

He was just a lawyer. But he rose to the occasion and inspired people to free themselves. Neglectful Sausage says, Tim Pool smoking that copium, quote, they're ramping up arrests and putting people on the right in for 20 years. They're totally losing.

JFC. Yep. I think you'd have to be fairly naive not to understand the point of what's going on there are things called death throws do you guys know what death throws are? when someone begins to die they begin

violently thrashing about, not everybody when someone is drowning, what do they do? they violently thrash about if someone is drowning and you go to rescue them, what do they do? they grab you and drag you down that's why they say you have to go up behind them there's a technique for rescuing people who are drowning there's a way for them to pass out actually they really yeah otherwise i was told in lifeguarding you go behind them and

right uh pull them from behind but uh that's one technique i don't know i'm not i'm not a lifeguard but uh here's the thing if they were in control they would not need to indict donald trump at all if they were in control they would not need to put indict Donald Trump at all. If they were in control, they would not need to put Enrique Tarrio in prison. They'd simply shut everything down. They'd cut his bank account. They'd destroy his life. They tried all that. It didn't work.

The Proud Boys famously got debanked. Enrique Tarrio continued to do everything he did. It's more like the economic hitman stories. First they say, join us. Then they say, we're going to pay you off. Then they start hurting you. And then they say, well, we're going to pay you off, then they start hurting you, and then they come in and remove you. But what's happening now with these

cultural victories across the board, I mean, come on, man, look at Rumble, the expansion that they've had. Look at Public Square. If everything keeps moving in this direction, the old school uniparty machine ceases to exist in a couple generations their

only options now after everything else has failed censorship failed debanking failed their only thing left is violence do you think and even that's not going to work that a decentralized form of governance in the united states could compete with the chinese communist centralized party absolutely absolutely i mean think about it if if this country was that beacon of freedom that's why everyone wants to be here anyways even though we're not because we are you know we do have that like one of the the things i've thought about this is is why don't we have an elon musk in latin america why is it that only the united states has these people coming here with all these

great ideas and starting these great companies? It's that freedom that brings people here. You want the best from around the world to come here. You want the best minds here in the United States. You will beat everybody else. We need that innovation. We want that innovation. We should be welcoming. I mean, feel however you want to feel about immigration i'm not going to debate it but um if you had a policy where you hey all of those people who in venezuela cuba whatever that are those great thinkers that are those great doers why wouldn't you want them here they're trying to flee why wouldn't you want them here why do you want them to go to russia or to china or anywhere else you want them here in the united states giving those great ideas

and you know yes i think that a decentralized country could, I mean, that is how the United States became the United States. Yeah, I get it. So less federal authority allows for more privatization of and wealth gain growth, which makes you more resistant to a foreign nation. It's actually the wealth of the nation. In my generation, I went from using a telephone on the wall because we had a monopoly with Mabel. And as soon as that government control of it went away, look at us now. We have these little devices in our hands. This is in my generation. It's just so absurd how much government control just keeps us down. And we keep asking for more of it. How much innovation and technology would we be at

if we didn't have the government stifling us to open a business you have to go through all these rigmaroles just to get it started why you know it's just it's ridiculous the government does not help you in any way shape or form some proprietary um monopolies can be can be really destructive and like if google were to try and take over the world right now, Alphabet, we would need our government to help protect us, at least on American soil. They can't take over the world if there is no government making them the only people doing

things. Competitors happen all the time. I still use Google, but DuckDuckGo, you have solutions. You cannot have a monopoly where there is a free market. Bo, you could have a monopoly where there is a free market well you could have big players in the free market collude and kind of monopoly like black rock vanguard black rock is absolutely using the united states government to get to where they want to be

do you think they'd be in a worse place without the u.s government of course or stronger i mean depends on where you're what your worse or better is. I think they're in a position that is not favorable to the people of the United States. And they got there using government. The thing about large corporations is, Ian, for instance, you mentioned MSNBC with a lag. Yeah. They invest ridiculous sums of money into this this foundation. They build a machine that's hard to move. As time progresses, their methodologies and technologies become more and more obsolete or archaic,

and upstarts, startups become disruptive and start moving in. What we typically see is the government then create roadblocks to support the jobs by propping up failing industries. So in not every circumstance, but there are many circumstances where we'd be better off

if these systems were allowed to collapse and crumble into themselves so you you have companies that should have failed the auto industry crumbled from from their own errors you have the banking industry but then you look at government programs these things should be better handled by uh non-profits i have no problem with social programs the problem i have is they're not allowed to fail. Once social programs run out, don't work anymore, whenever any program is created, it should have a sunset clause. This is for five years, and then it's done. Instead, you get these welfare programs.

They keep putting Band-Aids over and tape over, and it keeps making a bigger and bigger system that can't fail, and it gets broken and worse, and it just infects, and there's problems there. But let's read some more superchats. Got to read this one from Christy Harrisris she says ian i adore you please consider trump was more divisive due to things said about him and not by him he could not be liked so others deep state fueled hate however he was a clapback master i.e rosie yeah yeah they they the fan the flames were fanned

i won't deny that the media did play a huge part in the back and forth, but so did Don. Telling Hillary Clinton he would have her arrested and thrown in jail while he was campaigning. Yeah, it's way worse that they're actually arresting people and throwing people in jail. I know, but like, he opened up the gate for, that's my opinion, by saying that on stage,

for a power play, it's like, what are you messing with, bro? Alright. MiaCulpa632 says, I invite you and all of the timcast crew to come to mountaineer in martinsburg on sunday at 2 p.m for a friendly dart luck of the draw building relationships with the local community uh perhaps i will be there i don't know for sure what we're doing uh what what the plans are this weekend but um that's the mountainaineer in Martinsburg. We got a bunch of stuff happening in Martinsburg, ladies and gentlemen. I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm going to say it

anyway. We were talking about creating Cousin T's, a diner, and Papa Jack's Pizza Shack. I think we should do it in Martinsburg. Who's Pizza Shack? Papa Jack. Jack Posobiec. Oh, okay, alright. Papa Jack's Pizza Shack. I'm into it. With a skate park in the back. That's right.ack? Papa Jack. Jack Posobiec. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. Papa Jack's Pizza Shack. I'm into it.

With a skate park in the back. I'm into it. Oh. That's right. Bring the whole family. Skate and then eat. You know what I'm thinking would be super cool? An anti-Time Square.

We create our businesses. We've got our coffee shop. We've got Cousin T's Diner. We've got Papa Jack's Pizza Shack. We get a MyPillow brick and mortar store. Just take over a whole intersection. Just a street in a downtown area with all of these businesses that are the parallel economy. We have a bar that the bar serves conservative dad's ultra-right beer.

And people will travel to come hang out and be a part of this cultural hub. They would totally travel. I was thinking like anti-Times. It was Antimes. This didn't work. Antimes Square. Times Circle. Doesn't look good in writing.

Well, we don't call it Anti-Times Square, but that's the general idea of what it is. How cool would that be? And then the thing about Martinsburg is that it's a couple hours from a bunch of different metros. Pittsburgh, Philadelphia is a few hours away. You got DC, Baltimore.

Richmond is a few hours away. Freedom Square. Yeah. Yeah. Freedom. Yeah, freedom something. I mean, there's a bunch of Freedom Squares all over the place. But how cool would it be?

You get a hotel, you come down, and then you can get breakfast at Cousin T's. Disney World for people who like freedom. But like Times Square, because there's no theme parks or anything, but we could put an arcade. It'd be super cool. I mean, you said a skate park.

Yeah. Papa Jack's Pizza Shack with a skate park in the back. Yeah, don't eat before you skate. Eat after you skate. It's not really, the skate park isn't really a part of Papa Jack's Pizza Shack. It's just on the other side of the street. You know what I mean? And it's just fun to say.

This is really cool. And then we'll buy the Statue of of Lenin and we'll talk about it. Oh, we'll move it to New Times Square. I love this. We'll put it in the bathroom of New Times Square. Yeah, let's call it New Times Square. Put it in the bathroom. Everyone just...

Because it's like New Times, but it's also Times. I'm willing to bet that there are enough people in this space that would hands down... Martinsburg is not super expensive. It's the fastest growing city in west virginia they would easily be like okay we'll set up we'll set up a shop there why not because

i was just in millions millions how about how about jeremy hambly sets up a a comic a card shop and a comic shop gaming and all that stuff so now we've got the makings of you know five different business we got to get a my pillow brickow brick-and-mortar store. Super easy to do because the inventory doesn't expire. Isn't Eric July from the D.C. area, too? Is he out here? I'm not sure where he is. That would be sick, though. Oh, yeah.

A comic shop with Eric July would be awesome. Not to throw more stuff on his plate. The guy's going nuts as it is because of all the business he's got. But, yeah. But we can figure this out. So we're talking with Chef Andrew Gruhluel because uh that was uh actually terrence williams idea and i'm like that's a good idea i hit him up right away and he was like let's roll and i'm like this is gonna be amazing we're gonna have our own parallel economy and our own cultural hub where we do events we have comedians we're

gonna have at our venue a small stage for comedy and stuff we have like ryan log do stand up let's block off the street and have like block parties. We could, we could every Sunday or something. Well, we can't just do that. That's going to be like, you know,

we got to talk to the city and everything. We could shut it down and do street festivals on Sundays. But I'm thinking it's one thing that we can, we can do is with, uh, with our coffee shop and the small stage we have, we could easily get big bands. We could afford to pay them to come out and make this a big attraction.

You could play outside on a stage. I don't know of any venues in the West. I don't know where in West Virginia there are venues. I'm sure that there's at least one. I'm not talking 200 people. I'm talking like a 75-person coffee shop, acoustic set, secret show style. But we can, whereas like a small coffee shop normally wouldn't set. Yeah. Secret show style. Sure. But we can, whereas like a small coffee shop normally wouldn't be able to pay major

label bands. We could do that for the purpose of bringing people to our space. And then they go get dinner at Papa Jack's pizza shack. They, they get a hotel room next morning. They wake up and they go to cousin T's diner. Oh dude, this would be the coolest thing ever.

Yeah. We got to make it happen. We need to build a hotel there too. There are, there are no anybody at the Hilton, but I, I, i think this would be just good for everybody i i i wonder what the people there uh so what i do know is that locals that because we're working there already and we've had a bunch of people ask us like can you please invest and help build this stuff up and uh i think it'd be really cool if we brought these parallel economy

businesses and brought them and we could probably just go down the list of public square and be like if you're a company on public square how would you like to let's do this this would be super cool well we're going to be doing at the very least we're going to be uh i've been talking to jack posobic about a family pizza chain for a long time because you know his big thing is pizza hut nationalism family pizza rest but but it's because his big thing is Pizza Hut nationalism. Family pizza restaurant. But he brings a good point. There's this viral video of 1989,

a Pizza Hut. And it was a bunch of people coming and having a birthday party. And it's like, when do we do this anymore? Oh, it was so fun. That was the days, man. Pizza Hut now is a strip mall, small store that does delivery only. Now we need places where people come together.

I look at GameStop, and I went to GameStop the other day, and I'm like, dude, this is the wrong business model. GameStop needs to dedicate a third of its store to competitions, community events, and tabletop games. GameStop should be a place where you could, it should be the big chain for tabletop games and GameStop should be a place where you could, it should be the big chain for tabletop games and video game competitions. You should be able to, like

why is it, why do you need the product? Why do you need the best controller? Why do you need the best headset? Oh bro, because the insert video game competition is going to be held at your local GameStop Friday night and you can win 50 bucks in store credit. You can or you can go to Nationals or you can

get into these leagues or whatever. If you're playing video games, esports competitively, what's your local hub? GameStop could do that. I've been saying that for years, but that's just me. What do you think for Jack's Pizza Shack? Papa Jack's. What do you think about Daddy Jack's Pizza Shack?

I think Papa Jack's Pizza Shack works better. It's a bit more alliterative. And Daddy's kind of sexual, so I get it. But Papa's already, Papa John, was used for Papa John. I think Daddy is only sexual in certain contexts because I've heard the word Daddy

a whole lot where it was totally not sexual. Alright guys, Uncle Jack's Pizza Shack. Uncle Jack's Pizza Shack? Well, I don't want to derail. Papa Jack is kind of like Papa Jack's. Uncle Jack's Pizza Shack. Uncle Jack's Pizza Shack? Well, I don't want to derail. Papa Jack is kind of like Papa Jack's. Uncle's not good? Mm-mm. Papa Jack's.

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