Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #860 Federal Judge SHUTS DOWN Democrat Gun Ban In New Mexico, WE ARE WINNING w/Malcolm Flex

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Malcolm Flex to discuss a federal judge striking down New Mexico's ban on carrying guns, the Biden Administration requesting media companies be more critical of Joe Biden'...s impeachment, & Mexico revealing "proof" that aliens exist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. A federal judge has struck down the gun ban decree. There you go. And apparently it was a bit contentious with the judge being like, are you out of your minds? This was a power grab by the Democrat governor in a Democrat trifecta state, and they could not pull it off. Amazing. I'm glad to see it. We got more news. Joe Biden has sent a letter instructing the press to scrutinize his impeachment. This man has no shame. This is insane. An insane degree of collusion and manipulation. But hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:01:32 The press has already obliged, lying over and over again about what's really going on. So can't say I'm surprised there. We'll talk about that, plus a lot more information, a lot of other news stories. We have the Washington Post writing that Joe Biden should just basically give up aliens! I don't know if you saw this, but aliens were apparently put on display at Congress or something. I have no idea. It's the stupidest thing ever. But I guess
Starting point is 00:01:56 we'll talk about it, because I suppose when big news breaks that hurts Democrats' feelings, we have to get another alien story in there somewhere. Before we get started, my friends, click the link in the description or head over to TimCast.com and click TimCast IRLX Miami to pick up your tickets to the event we are having with Patrick Bett, David, Donald Trump Jr., and Matt Gaetz. You're going to see me, Tim Poole, Lucrid Kask, Ianine Cross.
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Starting point is 00:04:12 How's it going? How's it going? It's good. Who are you? I am a semi-serious political commentator, occasional shit poster, of course. And I love, love, love to fact check people and make little kids cry at least that's at least that's uh that's what they're saying basically because of my political
Starting point is 00:04:33 stances and you know i actually checked ai on me and apparently i'm not friendly when i try to you know look myself up they say i'm a very controversial person yeah yeah everyone's controversial now though oh man so apparently i'm just making babies cry, you know, thinking of children and all that, and I'm just not good. If Taylor Swift came out right now and said she was considering voting Republican but wasn't so sure because she's heard a lot of bad things, all of a sudden they would say she's controversial.
Starting point is 00:04:58 They'd be like, controversial pop star Taylor Swift. But anyway, this is going to be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Phil Labonte. Hello, my name is Phil Labonte uh lead singer of all that remains anti-communist counter-revolutionary and ian crossland what's happening everybody good to see you and i am surge.com it's a pleasure to see you again malcolm as always let's just get to it let's jump into that news from the post-millennial federal judge blocks New Mexico governor's firearm carry ban.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Amazing. On Wednesday, a federal judge blocked New Mexico Governor Michelle Luan Grisham's temporary ban on the carrying of firearms in the state with high crime rates. U.S. District Judge David Urias issued a temporary restraining order following a hearing spurred on by a series of civil lawsuits filed against the governor by pro-gun activist groups who argued the ban infringed on citizens' constitutional rights. As Reuters reports, Urias sided with opponents of the move, agreeing that it went against the rights of law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense and recent Supreme Court rulings on the issue. They just want the right to carry guns, he said. In the days since Grisham signed the executive order, she has faced criticism from within New Mexico and across the country, and especially
Starting point is 00:06:07 they're going to mention that the AG of New Mexico said that he would not defend the governor. That means when it came to these lawsuits, she can be standing up there by herself being like, I should be allowed to do this, and the judge is going to be like, yeah, sorry, no. You have no legal arguments, and you lose.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So let me just stress once again while there are concerns about our gun rights while we do need to repeal the nfa and abolish the atf that does not mean we are losing in fact we are winning and for decades we have expanded the right to keep and bury arms keep and bury keep and carry to bear and keep oh man i'm all over the place uh we've expanded the rights to uh bear arms to carry to possess and people need to understand that you go back before 2008 it was still very difficult so victory upon victory the move made by this governor was the was a death throw it was pure desperation And even after she did it, a bunch of dudes showed up in Albuquerque and were like, nah, and they showed up armed. They're losing. They know
Starting point is 00:07:11 they're losing. And here's the best part about it. It forced people like David Hogg and Ted Liu to come out and be like, we actually oppose the banning of guns by decree. Here's the best part beyond that. When they started shutting everything down over covid saying that public health trumped the constitution this has forced them backwards and now you've got personalities like david hogg saying there is no public health exception to the constitution so we've forced their position back past the line this is victory this is good when you're talking about winning this is something that's been on i think i heard you guys talking about it last night trying to describe it because like okay say you have 10 victory points and there's two teams each team needs all 10 points to win one of the teams has eight of them and your team has two you would say you're losing but then if you win a great battle and they all their their troops are gone now they're they're fleeing backwards and now you can go and you're about to take all all eight of those victory points because they have no defense. You might still technically be losing because you only control two of the victory points.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But the momentum has shifted. And that you could consider winning as a form of momentum and positioning. And here's another analogy. You're playing dodgeball and you have five players on one side and five on the other. For the first two thirds of the game, they've knocked out four of your players. And so there's one person left and it's like, man, we are losing that all of a sudden the dude picks up the ball.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They throw it. He bounces it back, hits one of their guys, knocks them out. They whip one. He catches it. Another player's back in within a few minutes. It's now three players on your team,
Starting point is 00:08:42 three players on their team. And you may be saying they've got so much power, but now they're starting to trip, they're stumbling over themselves, they're in panic, they're in disarray. You have picked up the momentum and you have begun to win.
Starting point is 00:08:53 The momentum has changed. This New Mexico gun ban attempt is exactly what I thought should happen in a just society, is that a governor makes a tyrannical move, the people come out, they protest, and then even the Attorney General
Starting point is 00:09:04 refuses to work with the tyrant. And that's, it's very encouraging. But I've always got to tell people, it always depends on what your players do once momentum shifts, because you're one mistake away from ending up, you know, back where you started. And so it's kind of like, right now, we're seeing that, hey, the public still does not have a stomach for government overreach. That's amazing. But the problem is, this is sort of conditioning the over the window. I know you guys saw the whole news with UNC Chapel Hill with the shooting or not the almost shooting the dangerous individual. Right. Well, that right there happened literally a day after apparently the March for Our Lives was in the courthouse. Shout or not the courthouse legislature shouting
Starting point is 00:09:45 down their people. So if you get something like that, that just gives them a nice little barometer for how much fear they need in order to condition people. Go ahead. Well, it's just we know that our government uses
Starting point is 00:10:01 assets. We know that again, CIA, FBI, groups like that, they entrap people. They cause situations where people end up getting a gun somehow, miraculously, and then going on a spree. And so I just always wonder, are they going to use this to recalibrate? Who knows how well they calibrate anything, actually. And this is what people need to understand for next year. I am not concerned about a false flag where a CIA or FBI guy or whatever claims to be a Trump supporter in a MAGA hat and then goes and commits some act. What they do every single time, and this is not a conspiracy theory, but the media will lie anyway, the FBI sends criminal informants and agents to convince people to commit acts of violence.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That way they can be like, there he is, there's your proof. They supply the individuals, they give them the opportunity, they give them the ideas, they set them up and then say, oh, heaven's me, look what they're doing. What you need to be careful of is when they start to trick you with Fed talk,
Starting point is 00:10:57 like Ray Epps yelling to go into Capitol and everyone started chanting Fed, yes. When you're seeing their plans fail, when you're seeing liberals plans fail when you're seeing liberals forced to say you can't have a public health exception to the constitution after covid wow we won that okay i gotta say like we won that one if if democrats are coming out now saying you cannot overrule the constitution with with a public health order but three years ago they literally claimed you could we've won that battle this is i mean it's
Starting point is 00:11:25 this is definitely a white pill um overall the the response from the rest of the the country you know people outside of of new mexico i think is is probably the the thing that i is most impactful to me um i don't personally trust uh ted li lu or david hogg to actually have much of a stomach for um supporting individual rights and stuff like that honestly um but at the same time the fact that they spoke up was good the fact that the ag won't defender is very very good the fact that the mayor was like you know against it as well that's very very good um firearms policy coalition the uh they're they're on x they're at gun policy and you should definitely follow them you should probably become a member as well um they did a really good job of of live tweeting
Starting point is 00:12:16 it today and inside the courtroom the the the judge just didn't have much patience for the argument being love it arguments made by the the state you know the the fact is the bruin case is essentially a nuclear weapon when it comes to the right to keep and bear arms bruin found that you know you have the right to keep and bear you can keep it on you and carry it with you and it's not a second class right the way that legislatures or i'm sorry uh the way that that uh administrations had treated the second amendment up until bruin is that it wasn't actually a right it was a privilege and the bruin case has made it clear that that is not acceptable and the the judge today specifically said that bruin has made it clear that we do not have the right to interpret the law the law is as it says that the
Starting point is 00:13:14 the right to keep and bear arms isn't going to be infringed it's outside of the purview of the federal of the of the federal and consequently the state governments because the constitution is the supreme law of the land. So it's outside of the purview of any government to say you can't have a gun to carry on you, barring a due process. I think the next victory we need to make is, I don't know how we do it
Starting point is 00:13:40 because it's going to require the Supreme Court, but I have no problem saying this. I have no legal experience. None. Did not go to law law school i've only been in court a handful of times and the supreme court justices are wrong on on the ability of a state to require a permit the right shall not be infringed if i am required to pay money in order to get permission from the government, permission, permit, then they've infringed my rights. Yeah. And the Supreme, and this was, this is Kavanaugh who said, well, they can require permits, but they can't use it as a shield and to manipulate. Basically what was happening was these states were saying, yes, you can get a gun, just felt this permit.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And then they crumpled up and throw it in the garbage. They're using it as a way to block you from getting guns they said no if you take the form you have to issue the permit they're still trying to find loopholes new jersey's loophole was uh you had to have uh you have to have proof of some kind of threat and you have to have a reason why the threat exists so it's like you have to be rich or famous, basically. So wouldn't this, though, be kind of where they try to use the elastic claws and, you know, they start to really sort of massage the firmness of the rule of shall not be infringed and what a well-regulated means? Because we've seen them play fast and loose with terms and definitions in the past. We've seen them do this and say, oh, no, well-regulated means you've got to have these many stipulations on it and you can only have this.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And they weren't talking about these PPUs. They were talking about these PPUs. And it's just kind of like this new school of law and interpretation of law that we have going is set up to where people can take dubious and sort of nebulous language and twist it into how they want it and that's what's coming out of law schools now are lawyers that love to play fast and loose with
Starting point is 00:15:30 definitions and they're what the constitution you know what the people back in the day were called loose constructionists there was actually a judge who refused to rule on what a woman was saying and because the argument was that in today's context, women could mean many different things. No. There was a reason we passed a law and how we describe it doesn't matter because we know what the law is intending to do. To simplify, we did not create
Starting point is 00:15:56 women's volleyball because sometimes people wear dresses. We did it because men and women are different. So when we said women's sports, we didn't mean if you're wearing a dress or you're wearing pants, volleyball. But this is the game they're playing when they say, well, if someone says they're women, they are. Therefore, women's sports. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Then let's change it to female and male sports. This is something that we've talked about a little bit in the past here the use of language like that to change the the use of changing the uh the meanings of words essentially means that you have changed the meaning of laws yeah right without actually having any kind of whether it be a vote or your representatives don't you know don't prove it presented to the legislature or anything like that and that's a way that people that are looking to infringe on your rights or possibly take your property this is something that james lindsey brings up you all of the uh the dedications of land to uh first nations or whatever that kind of stuff it's a bad thing because if you can convince people that you are on stolen land
Starting point is 00:17:02 then you do not have legitimate ownership of that land that means they can just take it is your your your property used to be on uh on you know the whatever that whatever first nation uh group or whatever oh that's not yours we're taking your house remember that's the that's the goal is to remove property rights because if the government is restricted by the law from taking your property without due process, that limits the power that they have. There is nothing that the left wants more than to have absolute power to be able to take your property. I did not follow up on that story from a few years ago where the Supreme Court ruled that a large portion of, I think, Kansas was actually Native American land. Do you remember that? I don't. That was a big story and i don't uh i don't remember exactly what happened with that you want to grab that real quick and then uh because basically the
Starting point is 00:17:53 story was some lawsuit about a treaty and then the supreme court was like actually yeah the treaty stands and so it would carve out a huge portion of the state as a reservation which negatively impacted people who owned the property did you you find it? I don't know. We'll just talk about it later. I don't like to bring these things up without having the direct sources in front of me so I can properly cite them. People were saying it was Oklahoma. Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Sorry, not Kansas. Right. Oklahoma. Was it? Yeah. One of those places. One of those places. But we'll get into that stuff in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Maybe we'll pull up some sources. But we do have more We Are Winning news. Take a look at this from CNN. As we get started with the story, White house sends letter to news execs urging outlets to ramp up scrutiny of gop's biden impeachment inquiry based on lies i just want to stress oliver darcy is a deeply evil individual how do i know this i know oliver darcy i've talked to him on many occasions he's interviewed me on a variety of stories there i i do not believe it reasonable that Oliver Darcy is unaware of what's going on politically. I think he's more than well aware. Of course, this is the guy who wrote the story.
Starting point is 00:18:53 There is a why I say he's evil. Here's the opening paragraph. The White House sent a letter to top U.S. news executives on Wednesday, urging them to intensify their scrutiny of House Republicans after Speaker Kevin McCarthy launched an impeachment inquiry into president joe biden comma despite having found no evidence of a crime let's just pause right there and i'll break down for you the psychotic depraved evil manipulations of these people like oliver darcy he is what i would describe as like um uh how i just i think i think malicious evil is a good way to describe it. Why? First, if you are telling someone something happened, there is no reason for you to insert
Starting point is 00:19:32 a non-sequitur facts to frame the story that's poisoning the well adding, despite having found no evidence of a crime is immaterial to an impeachment inquiry. An inquiry is quite literally an investigation. We do not typically launch an indictment against an individual and then investigate. We investigate and then indict. Impeachment is indictment,
Starting point is 00:19:54 meaning Kevin McCarthy has said there is a preponderance of evidence of wrongdoing. We're going to begin an investigation to determine whether or not this rises to the level of impeachment. If it does, we will vote for impeachment.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Inserting that sentence into the into the article is a lie. There's a tremendous amount of evidence cited by Kevin McCarthy and Republicans reported by The New York Times, by Politico, by The Wall Street Journal and these crackpot and even CNN. And so it's these crackpot evil people at NBC News, at the AP and at CNN who are trying to insert lies to shift the political narrative. There is no reason for that sentence to be in this article because you do not need evidence of a crime for an inquiry. You need a you need probable cause. Now, again, we do have evidence of a crime and he's lying about there being no evidence, which is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:20:48 But the big story here, outside of the fact that the press is evil and most of them are not all of them, but the corporate press, the enemy, the people. The big story here is the White House, in pure desperation, just sent a demand letter to the press saying scrutinize this wow in what in what reality is the is the federal government here's what you do you send a cia or fbi guy to the journals and tell them to do it on open letter shows they have lost control do you have the copy of the letter to get leaked no just that we don't even know who all they sent it to. I mean, there's their statements from it. A spokesperson talked about it. But this is widely reported across the board that they did this.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It sounds like the there's no proof or there's no evidence claim is the cover that they're running. I've been hearing this popping up. By the way, if you ever talk about Hunter, no evidence, no evidence. Even my mom told me there's no evidence. I'm would you why would you say there is or isn't either way how do you know if there is or isn't like she must have been hearing this on tv yes yes it's a primer that's why oliver darcy is an evil piece of trash because what he is doing is inserting something immaterial to an inquiry so that people like your mom say there's no evidence though and you know you say to your mom, you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:22:06 well, why would they have the evidence before the investigation? What do you mean? Exactly. Well, they're doing an impeachment, but with no evidence. No, they're doing an investigation to find the evidence. Yeah. Well, I was just telling her about Hunter's stuff with Burisma, and she was like, but there's no evidence. I was like, I don't have 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:22:22 right now. There's bank accounts that have transfers. There's bank accounts that have transfers. There's a lot of money. That's the problem is that they've stonewalled most of that information online. It's been a legacy media blackout. And they do that on purpose because, again, if they make sure that the only people that know about it are the politically initiated, you've automatically, when the headline drops that, oh, a baseless impeachment inquiry is taking place, 90% of people are going to believe it because think about how many people you can tell
Starting point is 00:22:49 about the Hunter Biden laptop from hell. And they're like, wait, what? What? That exists? Did you know that Hunter Biden said his dad takes his salary? Well, I don't know about that. Did you see the video where Joe Biden said he went to Ukraine to get the prosecutor investigating his son fired and he threatened to withhold congressionally approved loan guarantees i've never seen that video yeah we get it you've never seen the videos this is the purpose of they always do this they'll say donald trump comma without evidence comma claim here's my favorite one there was an article from cnn that was ragging on trump for uh claiming that joe biden ordered his prosecution and they said that it was a conspiratorial claim or something despite the
Starting point is 00:23:31 new york times quite literally having reported it the new york times reported we've quoted it like five times this week already that joe biden said he wanted donald he told his staff he wants donald trump prosecuted for january 6th and he wants merrick garland to stop acting like a ponderous judge and be decisive like what more do you need it's that is him saying arrest him parallel realities and and then you get so this is what happens the new york times reports it trump hears it trump speaks at a rally and says and and crooked joe is trying to repeat to prosecute me telling telling mayor garland to do it and then when he says it cnn writes trump pushed a conspiracy theory that biden ordered his arrest this is what this is what they did all throughout throughout his first term trump would read the
Starting point is 00:24:22 news and then repeat what they said and then they would reverse what they said to this day people still tell us that trump said that he wanted people to inject bleach into their veins yep so we've seen this literally crazy to this day people still run that line a lot of them desantis supporters no no shade on them but you know hey obligatory reference there you go i mean the the fascinating thing about the des, considering I think at this point, it's just like there isn't one. DeSantis is immaterial. You know, I'll say this fact. If we if we run a segment on DeSantis, it basically just vanishes. No one even cares what's going on with this campaign anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But the but I still see his prominent, you know, surrogates and personalities saying things like everyone i talk to says desantis is is the one we need and i'm like yeah okay like that's just not true at all because when i talk to people who have concerns about trump they're saying vivek ramaswamy yeah i get it there's a lot of polling for detentions still and vivek has had a few moments where he surpassed DeSantis. But DeSantis remains, you know, in the principal position after Trump. But I've, we've gone all over the place. I was in Portland, Maine. I was in the Outer Banks.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I've not experienced this DeSantis. He's the real, like, I see Trump flags everywhere. You know, that's, that kind of takes me back to why they're doing all this to Trump and why DeSantis refuses to drop out, because, again, they're trying to taint the well right now. You're going to have an impeachment inquiry against Joe Biden if they have to kick Joe Biden out. And, you know, again, they want to do it where he's riding off the descent sunset, you know, saying, oh, his health's just bad and he just doesn't want to hold up the office. No, we're going to stay in with with an impeachment. But the thing thing is if they kick trump off of the ballots and do that they need somebody else to stay in in the second place and that's why even though he's losing even though he's predicted to lose iowa they're tempering expectations on iowa they're you know desantis
Starting point is 00:26:17 he's still staying in stubbornly even though they're literally blowing through money and so this media scrutiny on this impeachment it's basically kind of walking it all down. You know, you got to you got to kind of taint the whale's public opinion. You already know you're probably going to have enough to impeach, not enough to remove. So you don't want Joe Biden to be impeached and then resign because of the impeachment. And it looks like, OK, this guy was like a stone cold criminal. That's what you don't want so they're trying to you know again taint the will taint public perception and then get trump out of there
Starting point is 00:26:49 now we've got what is it four states where there are lawsuits to remove trump i think so you've got colorado oklahoma minnesota and florida and then arizona there they entertained it but the secretary of state was like i can't do this. New Hampshire, there was a debate. But these four states, there are lawsuits. My question is, where are the lawsuits to remove Joe Biden from the ballot under the 14th Amendment for being an insurrectionist? Did Donald Trump get convicted in a criminal court of being an insurrectionist? No. So why are they filing lawsuits right now? Ah, in their opinion, Donald trump saying peacefully protest warrants insurrection in my
Starting point is 00:27:27 opinion joe biden ordering his attorney general to arrest his political rival is an insurrection against our our institutions and our constitution and as such i think he should be ineligible to run for president he should have his name removed from the ballot where are any he should actually be removed from office immediately so where are any of the lawsuits from the right challenging joe biden being on the ballot you're gonna get sternly worded letters come on don't we all just love those sternly worded letters worded letters i promise he might even use a wordy dirt in there and you know really make it stink but uh no this is exactly what we're talking about which is they will remove trump's name from the ballot i will i will say this there is in my mind a 95 chance that in some form trump's name is removed from
Starting point is 00:28:10 the ballot somewhere why in in arizona they printed the wrong sized ballot on the wrong sized paper and jammed up all the machines what i expect to happen at the very last minute and uh so october of next year maybe when the ballots are being sent out batches of them will not have trump's name on it and then someone in the off in these offices secretary of state or otherwise will say trump is an insurrectionist it's not in dispute so i removed his name under the 14th amendment they will be sued and then come december the supreme Court will say, hey, you can't do that. And they'll say, OK, we can't.
Starting point is 00:28:47 We'll put his name back post-haste. Oh, he lost, by the way. That's how it always goes, man. But I mean, this is what's happening. You've got ideological capture in the judicial field, you know, in the court of law. All your lawyers are coming out.
Starting point is 00:29:01 They're literally left leaning. Your judges are left leaning. It's literally becoming to the point where they can do whatever the heck they want and then you know you have conservatives we're over here telling our kids oh no no don't go to college go go get a trade and you know our kids they're just uh you know our boys are young boys are like okay i'll go be an electrician because all they want is just little money they want to chase it and get some puniti on the side so they're like you know i'm just gonna go where the money is but then your institutions are completely captured and they're left-leaning and all the legal interpretations of this whole immutable constitution are all turned
Starting point is 00:29:35 against you and this is kind of the problem that we face it's like even if we win 2024 because of how the law is because of how they're doing these counties you're not guaranteed to even have a lasting victory because our feeder system our farm system is all screwed up yeah true abject corruption across the country and unfortunately the people who believe in this country believe in its rules and its morals and its ethics and the people who don't which is don't and they cheat that goes to the point that i made the other day about how liberals need to understand that you can only be a liberal and i'm talking about classical liberals classical liberals need to understand that you can only be a liberal with other liberals yep unfortunately you cannot be a liberal and engage with fascist you
Starting point is 00:30:21 cannot be a liberal and engage with with authoritarians like marxist and stuff because they don't hold the same values that liberals do if you don't think honesty is important then you'll manipulate words and change the meaning so that way you can just get what you're away that's the point if if we were dealing with liberals you wouldn't have people trying to manipulate the words that we're using to describe ideas right the point of manipulating the words is to circumvent the actual law if you were a liberal then you would say well i'm going to honestly present my case and if your case is better than my case we're looking to collaborate on an idea and produce a better result for people so what we're going to do is collaborate blah blah if you're if you're not looking for that if you're just looking for power then you'll manipulate
Starting point is 00:31:09 you'll twist words you'll do whatever you can liberals need to understand when you're dealing with author authoritarians liberalism doesn't work do you think it works with corporatism at all i don't i don't understand your question well i feel like corporations are the most fascist aspect of our society the collusion with the government. So I've always thought that I have some liberal vestige in me, but I've been born and raised in this corporatocracy, and I just kind of play along. I send taxes to the war machine. And so do we even have any liberalism in this society? I want to think that I do.
Starting point is 00:31:41 The problem is liberalism and having any sort of liberal society creates a vacuum of which authoritarians can use to take power. You know, they always say you vote yourself into tyranny, but then you got to your way out. Again, I'm not going to say the other one because that's apparently that's incitement these days. But so is it painful? Is that just like the economist's way to create authoritarianism legally? So it's a legal corporatism legally is a cartel system. And that's the thing. It's not capitalism.
Starting point is 00:32:12 It's corporatism. They've used corporatism as a weapon multiple times. brought their life expectancy of the average russian male down to 50 you know somewhere to mid-50s using corporatism the cash for vouchers program the you know the where they were basically converting the command economy into a capitalist society and they gave starving russians who needed medicine and food vouchers and these vouchers weren't ever on it i mean you know they were never honored so they gave them all of that and then they then you know you got these western firms these corporate talk and you know these kleptocrats coming in working with oligarchs who had the money and saying hey we need you to buy up these shares and they use corporatism they bought up all the economy
Starting point is 00:32:58 and basically use that and then i need a weapon i want to get into some economic stuff but we have to stop first at this story and then we'll move on to the economic stuff. We have this from the Washington Post. Biden should not run again in 2024. Ignatius. Wow. David Ignatius.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Joe Biden launches candidacy for president. His words are, we are in a battle for the soul of the nation. He was right, blah, blah, blah. Since then, he's had a remarkable string of wins, which I admire most about President Biden. As an polarized nation, he's governed from a center out blah blah blah i love that he points out that harris shouldn't run either oh it's amazing normally you'd think that it'd just be like oh president biden shouldn't run it'd be okay if the vice president did not this time but i don't think biden and vice
Starting point is 00:33:44 president harris should run for re-election it's painful to say that given my admiration for much of what they've accomplished but if he and harris campaign together in 24 i think biden risks undoing his greatest achievement which was stopping trump uh i i am excited at the prospect of joe biden running again because he was just the anti-trump corporeal mannequin that was used as something to vote for. And now that you, when you put a mannequin in office, you realize it doesn't lead. And then you get a lot of big problems. And now they're like, oh, quick, switch Joe Biden and Kamala Harris out.
Starting point is 00:34:16 But you can't do it. How do they get Biden and Kamala not to run again? There's no way. It's amazing that there's, there is, let me hold on. Yeah, go for there is no legitimate electoral and political path towards having joe biden and kamala harris leave the 2024 race yeah true but they can tell them that this they're not gonna back him with the superdelegates so no matter what they're not gonna be he's the president yeah but yeah i the
Starting point is 00:34:40 dnc decides who they run. But there is no political path. If they pull their support for Biden, they lose 2024, period. True. Nobody else has momentum. I mean, what are you going to do? And the time is short. Like, we're getting into the fall now. They've got six months, maybe.
Starting point is 00:34:59 RFK, but they don't want him. That's the last thing they want. But it doesn't matter. Gavin Newsom exists. He doesn't want to do it either? They cannot. It's not about that. It's that if they say,
Starting point is 00:35:10 if Joe Biden comes out and says, Kamala and I are not going to run for re-election, people are going to be like, whoa. Yeah, it undermines him. That's unprecedented. That's insane. After all the shaky videos they've been paying
Starting point is 00:35:20 Chris Mowry and Harry Sisson to do about how great Joe Biden is, he's literally doing what nobody else has done. They're like, oh my God. Imagine your greatest accomplishment being winning the race. Like, that's it. That was your greatest accomplishment. That's literally what they're saying.
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Starting point is 00:35:55 so i suppose what we'll do is let's just take we'll take the first portion of the show which was good anyway and we'll just combine it with this we'll carry on from here uh i don't know how else we can do it but that's the way we do it so uh we uh we'll jump combine it with this. We'll carry on from here. I don't know how else we can do it, but that's the way we do it. So we will jump into the first story that we have carrying on for where we were left off. And that is, Brian Kemp declares a state of emergency in Georgia over inflation.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Quote, all Bidenomics has done is take more money out of the pockets of the middle class, Kemp said. I don't get this guy's deal. It's like he hates Trump, but he hates Biden. What's his intended outcome here or it's simple enough to say the economy is fucked joe biden's at fault and no one can deny it i think it's probably that he you know he's well actually i don't know when when is he up for
Starting point is 00:36:37 re-election is it next year i have no idea because i think re-election could be a thing because if he's he is a republican even though he's not a mega republican if i understand correctly um and that being the case if he is up for re-election next year he doesn't want to risk being you know opposed to the uh the republican nominee donald trump and and it's probably a smart uh smart thing to do if you're a Republican. He suspended their gas tax. Really? Yeah. What about the roads? He won in 2022, Brian Kemp.
Starting point is 00:37:15 So does that mean he was a four-year term? I don't know. The economy is kind of shitty, and it's been shitty for some time. And it feels like it's just a bunch of paper stacked on top of paper. I'm wondering how the Democrats think they're going to win with ailing Joe Biden with a fucked up economy. And it's not fucked up in the sense that like everyone can clearly see that the machine is broken. It's fucked up in like it is a piece. It's like imagine a sheet with a bunch of holes punched through it.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like someone hung up a sheet and then start shooting at it with a full auto rifle of some sort and so we can we can clearly see this thing's full of holes burned singed and will not function as a sheet but some people are like well the area that i'm using seems to be okay and that's the so that's the weird thing as we move forward in 2024 how do the democrats expect to win if you've got a crippled economy and an ailing old man who can't remember where the fuck he is. It doesn't work. My guess is the war. They'll use the Ukrainian war to try and be like, you can't change presidents during a war. Yeah, that's what a lot of people typically say.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I just don't quite know how well that's going to go because we're not at war. And I mean, that's sort of the thing when they make all the treason not right now yeah true that but it's like when they make the whole treason comments in regards to anybody that poses the words like i mean that that can't even work we're not technically you know combatants there right uh technically no well we're not um technically not legally i don't think so uh i mean we are but you know like technically did you see the ukrainian i don't know it's propagandist or whether they're speaking in english it's like their english translators saying that they will hunt down people that have made russian like pro-russian propaganda on the internet i don't know if they're saying like hey
Starting point is 00:38:57 by the way we're gonna try and come kill americans that have talked shit about ukraine during this conflict they got enough migrants refugees and refugees to possibly make that happen. There's a lot of people that are bummed out with people like Hinkle and that other big gorilla-looking dude, the dude with the beard, the infrared guy. I don't know what he's not.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I know the MAGA communist guy. Yeah, he's the big dude with the big beard the maga communist guy oh guys here what the guy who's here no no the other guy oh okay the big dumb maga communist big dumb you know what the hell is maga communism yeah there are people who are like somehow both a trump supporter and a communist which doesn't really make sense and i think it's actually born of ignorance yeah like or well communists are dumb to begin with yeah they they're not it is it is you almost communism is probably three percent intelligent individuals trying to manipulate a group of people for political power and then 97 first order thinkers who have no idea what the fuck they're talking about or where food comes from.
Starting point is 00:40:05 True believers. And so they just march in lockstep behind the priestesses and priests of their cult and just do as they're told. And I got to imagine that the 3% are totally willing to turn on each other when they get power. 100%. Absolutely. If you look at what Stalin did, he just murked. Do you think Stalin poisoned and killed Lenin? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I don't know. i don't know and i don't i don't really have a feeling either way they're both awful so it's kind of degrading lenin just got sick and died all of a sudden and then stalin was like all right i guess i'm in charge now i mean i know he killed a lot of people that were behind him like the people lower than him on the rungs i know i don't know if he killed uh lenin to get into into his position but you know the uh like khrushchev was went and exposed all of stalin's crimes so i don't understand how people actually call themselves you know stalinists nowadays yeah that's crazy look like the khrushchev literally told the whole like all of the soviets it was a it was a late at night see a secret
Starting point is 00:41:06 speech it was called and he went and and it was he talked about the cult of personality and how marx was like he said that marx had told them to not get involved in cult of personality stuff and that's what made stalin so powerful is he people were, were actually kind of worshiping him. And, you know, he's slaughtering Russians all the time, killing Ukrainians. And Khrushchev admitted it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Khrushchev was like, this is what happened, you know? And, and that was part of why the Soviet union started to have some kind of opening up and the, the actual, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:44 the murders and stuff started to end it came to a close because stalin was no longer in power and khrushchev admitted what he did but still bringing that back to george's economy though do you think um i mean when it comes to brian kim do you think that he just expects the republican party to just be in a wreckage after they go after trump and for him and whatever this new breed and neocons to just basically pick up afterwards. And, you know, kind of these people,
Starting point is 00:42:09 these people are insane. Brian, Brian, like Republicans have always been the underdogs relative to Democrats. There's two parties. Republicans are smaller. Republicans win when they would convince independence. That's it.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But many of these people were already like Democrat leaning individuals and they had to pull really hard. If these people think they're going to muster up anything when Trump has built a better and bigger coalition. Right. They're fucking out of their minds. Well, they've. I hate these people. Yeah, they've always been nuts. I mean, these were the same people that thought that if they just got rid of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, that all of a sudden they could put Iraqi exile, Ahmed Chalabi in there and, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:47 everything would run as normal because apparently Shiites, you know, love Jordanian blood or some crazy stuff. Like they've never understood, you know, people. And, you know, they've literally screwed up every opportunity they had to overtake the Democrats. So I don't know if they, they, they're planning this or they just suck at calibrating i i'm still
Starting point is 00:43:06 not sure which one it is the republican party you're talking about yes it's not a monolith i guess but it neocons actually to be to be exact yep i'm all for someone you know starting their own thing but i don't know man party party loyalty when we start talking party loyalty is when i start to get concerned but that's why it that's what what happened it broke democrats are losing the younger generation republicans are losing the younger generation and that's why you see leftist populists and right-wing populists now i happen to think that the left-wing populists are mostly just first order thinkers like i said you're relatively ignorant people who don't pay attention and the challenge we've we're faced with is you know you've got like anti-communist libertarian
Starting point is 00:43:48 over here phil who can tell you all about this stuff he's researched why he feels the way he does and then if phil was have an argument with one of these liberals they're going to be like no no no and it's like okay like there's no conversation to be had it happens i tell people i'm all the time i'm like look we're actually in the middle we're going through a cultural revolution it's slower here in the u.s than it was in china but we're going through one here and it's a lot like what happened in china constantly people like no we're not what are you talking about you're crazy all the while out in california i just the other day i was retweeted something one of the again it's it was an on-the-ground activist, organizer kind of person.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Straight up communist. We're communists. There was no balking, no parsing words. We're communists. Straight up. If you're going to go ahead and announce we're communists, you are an enemy of the country because you are an enemy of the country because you are an enemy of the principles that our country's founded on how go ahead i was gonna say how we got to the point where
Starting point is 00:44:52 the 1964 civil rights act exempts human rights to communists to the point where now people are waving communist flags i'm not saying people of the communist persuasion should be denied human rights i'm just saying we that's a huge shift. We should at least be like, Hey, it's not okay to be a communist. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:09 you can believe that stuff. It's like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna stop you from eating at a restaurant because you're a communist, but we're not voting for you. We will criticize you and we will shun you just like Nazis. Yes. They're just like Nazis.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I, and people, it's like the same thing to me. They both, there's evil, some evil signals. Just get rid of them. People. Hammer sickle and swastika. It's like the same thing to me. They're both evil signals. Just get rid of them. Absolutely. I could not agree any more than I do.
Starting point is 00:45:30 The idea that communists are somehow unacceptable or communism is somehow an acceptable type of organization for your side is ridiculous. You have to brainwash people. You can't allow people to say i don't want to if you're in a communist society but the problem is communism and nazism by you know just their core philosophy those are in stage sort of you know okay we screwed up guys type movements so the system has to be broken up and it has to be to a point where one side can't govern in order for one to take hold with nazism it was because again you know after uh you know yeah after weimar germany after
Starting point is 00:46:11 literally churchill kept the blockade in place for eight months and they were starving and they signed that horrible treaty it was like everybody was pissed and he wouldn't and then wilson wouldn't even let the militarists sign it so they were pissed off. That's how they got Nazism. Whereas again, with, um, you know, communism, it was the fact that Wilson went ahead and bribed the,
Starting point is 00:46:30 you know, Kerensky and his revolutionary government to stay in the war long after they were well done with it. And they were going to say, Hey, we'll end it as is. And they stayed in the war and basically ruined their whole economy. And then that's what led to Lenin.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Both of these things are when the system breaks down, which is where they're trying to drive the United States to. Yeah, so they can be like the shining bastion of this big light of all this truth and order and et cetera. And they've got expiration dates. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Dude, I was just reading about this Kerensky guy you mentioned, Alexander Kerensky,
Starting point is 00:46:59 and he was the head of the provincial Russian government. There was a short-lived Russian republic. So the empire, there's a revolt, a republic formed for three months, and then that was overthrown by the Bolsheviks. Yes, that was what allowed the Bolsheviks in because, again, he kept the war going. He took all of the,
Starting point is 00:47:17 it was like a $350 million loan from the United States. There was all these extra guns, boots, and weapons that were shipped there. And they were ready to end the world war one. If they would end world war one right there. Again, the Germans had already came to an agreement with the French. They were going to lay down their arms.
Starting point is 00:47:34 They were going to say, okay, you know what? It is what it is. We're done. But instead they kept it going. And then after the Germans lay down their arms, Winston Churchill kept the blockade in place,
Starting point is 00:47:43 starved and uses, use it as leverage to drive them to sign a terrible treaty, and then split Germany up, which gave rise to Hitler. And Stalin came off the backs of Lenin. And so literally, Wilson, he gave us the whole Nazis versus commies thing. That's how those ideologies came. That's why they said the Bolsheviks. You literally hear the Nazis saying they were-bolshevikism i wonder the war i wonder if in 100 years they're going to be saying things like the united states was pressing their their military lines in europe up against the border
Starting point is 00:48:14 of russia russia kept saying don't do this it's a violation of the treaties we had in the past and then when russia tried having a peace agreement the west sent in one of their prime ministers to break that up which eventually led to the assassination of diplomat so-and-so in in poland which sparked a wave and then joe biden declared war and you know yeah yeah that's usually how it happens we blunder ourselves into 90 of this stuff and that's exactly i mean that's where we're at that's a scary thing let me let me tell you a story right i just read this story about a guy. He's going to prison because he got into a bar fight, killed the other guy. Two guys were yelling at each other.
Starting point is 00:48:51 One guy started a fight, took a swing at the other guy or something like that. One guy falls back, hits his head, died. The dude leaves the bar, gets found later, and they say, the man you punched is dead. You're going to prison. Probably for 20 years or maybe for manslaughter or something something that's like you could scale that up into war right russia does a thing the u.s says fuck you back off he says i'm not fucking fuck you and then they're like you motherfucker don't you make me do it and then russia's like fuck you i'm gonna send him my i'm taking it and then a fight breaks out and then someone ends up dead exactly
Starting point is 00:49:22 but someone it's nations it's borders it's hundreds of thousands well sometimes it can be just one person sometimes that's all it takes uh yeah i mean that's that's the problem and we talk about this all the time it's like where's the off-ramp it's not a matter of oh they wouldn't do this you have no way of knowing what could happen like nobody believed that world war one was going to start like every if you talk to if you read history and stuff like there was like people didn't believe that there was going to be a war they didn't there was there was not yeah this huge you know tension between you know blah blah blah and skirmishes and stuff and da da da da
Starting point is 00:50:01 that one dude shot franz ferdinand. And he was an anarchist. He shot Franz Ferdinand. And then all hell broke loose. People started taking sides and blah, blah, blah. And next thing you know, the whole world is thrown into war. That is absolutely a possibility now. That is without a question a possibility. And we need to be able to figure out a way to prevent it,
Starting point is 00:50:24 to say that we know that it's not going to happen you have to have the war in ukraine stop it could uh it could be internal yeah one of the things that was so alarming about what new mexico tried to do is that the american revolution began because they tried to seize guns that's it there was no it was not a declaration of independence it was not an armed faction saying we hereby declare that we will not be oppressed it was a bunch of farmers a small group saying fuck your rules and fuck you and the crown saying you are in a state of rebellion and they were like well you can't do anything about it fuck off and then they were like they went to the regulars
Starting point is 00:51:00 effectively the national guard and the police combined because they didn't have police back then so the regulars are like the enforcers of law let's just more akin to cops and they said go and take their guns away they're they do not have the authority to to control anything and they walked over and these militias were like out of our cold dead hands shooting began 18 militiamen die one red coat dies and and at the time it wasn't the battle of lexington and conquistade it wasn't the revolutionary war it was oh shit more fighting is breaking out yeah it changed the sentiment in this country to fighting will never happen to holy shit fighting is starting did you get a look at who fired the shot heard around the world was it a british guy or an american guy let's uh it's
Starting point is 00:51:42 still contended yeah no one really knows but all of a sudden could have been a false flag who knows but someone fired a bullet and then the shot started election green yeah it could have been anyone yeah the shot heard around the world and that's what makes it so freaking crazy because i mean false flag everything that literally kicked off the most poignant events in history could have been a false flag you don't know you don't know who did what you don't like at some point U.S. government literally operated off of false flags. Yeah, true. I mean, they definitely done it before.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Like Spanish-American War. You talk about Gulf of Tonkin. So this is interesting. Before the battles at Lexington and Concord, there was minute men who had been attacked by British soldiers who opened fired and then made a bayonet charge. I'm sorry, it wasn't 18. It was eight Americans were killed. So the Americans quit the field. A British continued their march.
Starting point is 00:52:33 A British soldier suffered a flesh wound from a shot from an unknown source. I think that may be the Battle Green, not the Battle of Lexington. That's Lexington Battle Green. Interesting. Historic town. Or was that what they were referring to okay no no they were quite an earlier encounter at lexington right okay they're quite literally referring to uh the whole conflict so the shot heard around the world was not the one well that's weird they're basically saying the british opened fire on the minute men who then fled yeah saying the british shot first yeah from what from what it says in this and this is no
Starting point is 00:53:06 consensus it may be that uh there already are a bunch of militias in this country there always have been there always will be it's like that's what this country started on right and when i see what happens in new mexico and the government says we're taking your guns away in this area and a bunch of guys show up saying no the only the only thing that kept the line was when the police said i don't know about all this if the cops came out or if the if imagine if the governor called in the national guard and said i want you to go and remove these people and take their guns then bad shit the sheriff dude was so legit and i believe that was the sheriff the the duly elected sheriff of of uh new mexico was like
Starting point is 00:53:44 i don't want more violence we don't want street violence we don't want political violence on top of what we already got which is enough violence people trying to take people's guns and getting shot like on the street trying to grab someone's gun fuck no that was an acceleration this is wet dream yeah literally because it could it could have went pear-shaped very quickly that's failure of imagination but right there is like how quickly does new mexico devolve where you get you know number one the feds could have sent somebody in sent people in in maga hats and they could have been like you know what we're going to a governor whitmer again and try and you know pull that off
Starting point is 00:54:20 and then next thing you know you've literally set the country back politically about oh my god like it really could have got bad like i'm i'm actually happy we resolved that yeah seeing the sheriff the attorney general the citizens themselves all stand up against it it was like yo fucking legit and that's it's a litmus test and it's also a form of inoculation like we are testing ourselves and training ourselves of how to resist this kind of stuff i hate to do it to you guys but we have to do it we have to do it from the independent alien corpses shown to congress as ufo expert forced to testify under oath i thought this was like in mexico or so did i is jamie uh the guy's name is jamie maussan maussan but what are what are they this is this report from the independence as congress yeah, okay. Mexican Congress.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Okay, okay. Do they have... It looks like Yoda. Dude, it's a piece of clay, man. Yeah, what is it? Look at the skin. There's no skin. It's a chunk of clay.
Starting point is 00:55:17 They just took a little pick. It's so stupid. This is trending all day. The guy's name, Jamie Mousen. I looked him up. It says he's a hoaxer on Wikipedia. Not that Wikipedia is legit in any fashion, but he's known as being a hoaxer. But if I look up, like, Randall Carlson, it'll tell me he's a hoaxer, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:37 So he's, like, a legit scientist. So I don't know. Jesus Christ. Like, is this where we've devolved to where it's like literally we have some of the most pivotal times going like an impeachment inquiry into the actual sitting president that and that you know comes after the other president that was impeached and now it's being prosecuted and they're just like look aliens there we go guys it's like eventually we're going to have so many more pivotal moments to the point where we're going to run out of stuff to talk about.
Starting point is 00:56:05 You know what I think this is? Were there any scandals in Mexico today or yesterday? No, not that I know of. I'm wondering if like the Mexican government, seeing what the Democrats were doing, were like, that's actually a really good fucking idea. You actually worked in America. Yeah, and then a scandal erupts and they're like, let's just do aliens. And so they get some like little old lady to mold some like clay little figures a boy like you go ahead and do that literally what it looks like what else is that what else you gonna say that i can't believe that
Starting point is 00:56:34 they're actually saying these are lit these were living creatures like they they literally found like clay dolls it are your best case interpretation is these were just made by some dude a thousand years ago who was like molding clay yeah i mean and your worst case scenario is they literally made them the other day to cover something up i feel like if i mean if if mexico was a serious country and they had these like the first thing they would be doing is like all right time to open them up and see what's inside they're dead but they're not i mean come on look at this they say x-rays of the specimen were shown during the hearing which x with with experts that's an mri that one of the bodies has listen listen under oath they said one of the
Starting point is 00:57:18 bodies has seemed to have eggs inside how come aliens always have to be really small little things like this? Because it's costless to make. Right. We didn't want to pay for the big one. They're in our state, man. Probably cost a lot already. At least now we know why the aliens lock their doors when they fly by Earth, man. Those guys are defenseless.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Like, God. A Chihuahua could have murked one of them. Well, but you know, it's like sort of when you're driving through a safari you ever see that there's a video that came out recently i think it's old where this man and the women are driving and then the woman and the man get into an argument so the woman gets out of the car and then a lion just grabs the wife and drags her off and the husband gets out like oh what do i do it's like dude your wife's dead i don't i don't know dude like it's fucked i know it's probably scary and it's got it but
Starting point is 00:58:08 bro like if your wife isn't is surrounded by lions and she decides to get out of the car like i don't tell you this is the lesson that these aliens got to learn man when you're flying by earth the humans may look cute and cuddly but they're big and they're vicious they could have encountered a flex size human and you could have just been hungry and it could have been curtains for uh you know i don't know what they're going through i don't know if one of these aliens was about to get married i don't know if one had a kinsney yet or something they were stopped by mexico to get some new sombreros and like it just went like i don't know man it was aztec warriors or something it's nuts so these are apparently fossils right a thousand year old fossils so i was wondering the same thing why wouldn't they dig them open but that means that this is just like that's crazy
Starting point is 00:58:48 though because we've been scared of aliens and aztecs literally just said hey hold my bow and arrows and a lot of men took one out they're not fossils it's clear bullshit yep these people like come on you you said something on one of the the bits today or the segment today and you were talking about um about uh neuralink and it made me think what if like fermi's paradox is because other societies like once you get to the point where you can be uh where you can get plugged into like the internet or whatever like that's what happens to them like they tend to decide okay i don't i don't want to go and it fails well yeah i don't want to go and explore the universe and stuff because we have all the ability to go ahead and plug ourselves in i like that was the first thing i thought i was like i wonder i wonder if that's a theory that you could actually test
Starting point is 00:59:37 ever one year ago a year and two months i was making ai images of nancy pelosi and if you look at my instagram you'll see how stupid it looks. It's just a weird disfigured face. And I was laughing like, look, it almost looks like Pelosi. Now you can make realistic photos of Pelosi shaking hands with Vladimir Putin in 30 seconds. 30 seconds is an exaggeration. I'm sorry. It's more like 10.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Not kidding. You go to mid journey, you type it in and bang. You got to go turbo hours. I wonder if I can actually just literally do this. You can. It'll be fine, yeah. Well, it might say that you can't make, let's try, Nancy Pelosi shaking hands with Putin, Getty Images.
Starting point is 01:00:17 It might say you can't make historical images and I'll have to contest it or something. Okay, it worked. They tell you you're not allowed to make pictures of trump getting arrested and things like that but there's ways to do it like on uh i i shouldn't say too much because i like mid-journey i don't want to tell people how to break their rules but i'll just give you a basic example like what if you put woman slips it woman falls on ground and as as cover and has red paint spilled on her. That will be a picture of a woman with red paint on
Starting point is 01:00:46 her, but it'll look like a woman who's covered in blood. You know what I mean? So, like, you can still make these things happen. It looks like, man, this is nuts.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Let me, how do I, is that going to work? Okay, there we go. That worked. What the heck? That's... It was... Look at this.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I like the dungeon. I like the dungeon in front of fire, man. That's realistic. Look at the first one. Whoa. This is crazy. Now, I just...
Starting point is 01:01:19 Look at the third one. What is this? What is going on? That's the realistic one. That's the realistic one. That's the realistic one. That's the real one. So you can, hold on, let me open that one up. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's insane. And then, yes, that's her look. And then that's Putin's signature look. Like, oh my God. Yo, this is amazing. If Luke's listening, you should make that into a t-shirt, man. That's sick. Dude.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Anyway, I mean, look how incredible this is a year ago it was a goofy looking picture of Nancy Pelosi all scrunched face we are probably and so I made a picture of like a guy in like a stove pipe hat walking forward with an explosion behind him and I typed in the prompt I gave it was something like
Starting point is 01:01:59 final scene from the action movie steampunk crisis and it made something like it made that and a bunch of other things i was like wow i i told it to make a final scene of the 80s 80s superhero movie where ice man defeats the evil mayor and it actually made a widescreen image that looked like an 80s movie it was nuts someone took the image i posted on twitter and made a three-second animation of the guy and now that that three second animation was about as bad as the Nancy Pelosi face. In one year, you will be able to make a full, legitimate, like realistic looking video.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Probably it's the only issue is going to be how long it takes to render. You'll probably be able to go into mid journey and be like a 30 second video of Nancy Pelosi doing a perfect back handspring or round off back layout. And then it will make that video and you'll be like a 30 second video of nancy pelosi doing a perfect back handspring or round of back layout and then it will make that video and you'll be like damn which means we are probably only a few years away from the cessation of video games movies books and entertainment music etc i'm sorry phil i don't i don't need you to record anything for me because i'm gonna be i'm gonna say to the ai um make me a hit song by all that remains and it will just take your music style take the top 40s it will take all the biggest best metal songs and it will make a song you singing it in three seconds and then i'll be like oh hey here's a song in the style of philobonte then what happens is i'll say make me a song that's make me a heavy metal song top major hit super entertaining and combine the voices of the top three heavy metal lyrics uh vocalists and then
Starting point is 01:03:35 you've got a totally unique product it's yours you're gonna be able to do that with video games you're we're playing balder's gate not doesn't matter you're gonna say make me a video game where it's dnd based and the villain is a giant octopus from outer space trying to take over the world. And it will render everything because the basic mechanics of the video games already exist.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I wonder if you could just say, make me Baldur's Gate 4. And it knows. So we can get the next Half-Life? Yes. Thank God. But think about where this goes. So, man,
Starting point is 01:04:04 the things people are not considering the economy how does the economy exist in a world like this with automation it's an investor economy people have talked about how what are we going to do when taco bell has replaced all its employees with robots it's called robin hood you download the app and what's going to happen is people are going to get they're going to make money from some odds and ends here and there because there'll be tips there'll be busking there will be social media and then you's going to happen is people are going to get, they're going to make money from some odds and ends here and there because there'll be tips, there'll be busking, there will be social media. And then you're going to start putting those in different accounts and stocks.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Taco Bell still turns a profit. You will be a part owner of Taco Bell and you'll get a dividend every month for Taco Bell's profits because you are buying into it. You're staking essentially Taco Bell coin or something like that. All automated. Some people will still have to do work but people will mostly make money through investments the rich people will be those who are smart enough to predict the future in what companies will do better and poor people will be like well you know
Starting point is 01:04:53 i get by here's the crazier thing neural link does not have to be surgically implanted no what all they need to do you think about how the ai works how these these machines work they brute force they take all the information available and they start amalgamating it then they start mapping it and figuring out what is and what isn't and it over a long enough period of time they figured it out they can i i i i do not see why this would be unreasonable transmit a signal into your into your brain and all they have to do is get the brain scans of every human on earth and then let an ai figure it out and then what do they do the ai will figure out a basic algorithm for writing code to into to uh to connect interact with your brain wirelessly and so i used to think you wouldn't be able to do Neuralink
Starting point is 01:05:48 because everyone's brain is a unique code. We're all snowflakes. We run on a similar operating system, but it's built from the ground up. A computer is going to be able to brute force through to figure out how to map your brain and then figure out how the programming works. And it's going to be able to do it very, very quickly.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And once they have enough data on the human brain, they can create a program that can simplify, basically compress a bunch of the basic code functions and then write to your brain. When that happens, people won't live in houses anymore and they'll eat bugs and they'll be happy. You know why? Because you're not going to go to a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You're going to go home for whatever reason you went outside, which is going to be rare. You're going to go into your pod, sit down and and put your head back and then the wireless plate touching your neck will transmit a signal into your brain and you'll blink and you'll be inside your mansion eating eating steak and filet mignon oscar style with with charred uh garlic delicious all you can eat people are going to be in the real world being like yeah you eat bugs but who cares exactly i don't see bugs i see a creme brulee cheesecake i don't i don't see how we get we get past this these these images that we've been able to generate are so fucking nuts yeah
Starting point is 01:06:57 in one year's time how do how does anything other than this happen? It makes me wonder if people are actually going to be able to survive in a totally created world like that. Now, my gut is they probably will. I don't imagine that in the long term, they're not going to be able to decode how your brain works. Right. So I think that there might be problems in the beginning, like a lot of people, like the way that they described it in the matrix, people rejecting it because there's something that they,
Starting point is 01:07:39 you know, somehow they know it's not real or whatever. And there's, it's not going to be by force. Yeah. People are going to want it. But listen, listen. The computer, there's no rejection.
Starting point is 01:07:50 The computer will brute force your brain. What I mean is I wonder if people are going to find meaning. Because the big problem people seem to think that's going on in society is there's a lack of meaning so a secular society does without religion and stuff people are are you know i don't have meaning and that's part of why people think that there's so many suicides nowadays and i wonder if in a you know virtual reality inside your own head kind of thing. If people will accept that and say it's good enough, or if they're still going to feel like I don't have meaning because my children are actually virtual reality. My girlfriend is virtual reality. All of the things
Starting point is 01:08:35 that mean something to me aren't actually real. And I wonder if that will matter or if it's just going to fill the need, you know what I mean i mean yeah but you got to think about what hacking somebody's brain like literally brute forcing it actually means like we're nothing but a couple of reactions that are triggered by electrical signals that can either come from touching something physically that runs through innervations through our spine up into our brain like it's just neurotransmitters and chemicals being secreted so if they can mimic the stimuli that creates that sensation eventually it can override your sense of memory because you got to think we're literally computers like it's to the point where when you think about a computer chip that computer chip before we discovered miniaturization could only hold so much data now think about your brain your
Starting point is 01:09:21 brain can only hold so much data memories and you can only advance it so much you you are literally the sum of your memories if you can generate memories through basic sensations and basic feedback mechanisms and ai has all the time in the world to do that it can literally sit around and you know process combinations process common you know look at like inputs and different just virtual simulations of inputs and what uh you know what secretion does this do you know does this um you know does this affect your serotonin output does this affect your dopamine like how dopaminergic is the sensation of this person what's this person's personality type like and it can quantify what types of personalities
Starting point is 01:10:02 react to what and it just try it out and try it out, and the algorithm refines itself. And, you know, it's to the point now, it's like they talk about regulating AI. How do you regulate AI when it grows at a curve that's exponential? You don't even know what it can do and what it can't do. So it's like...
Starting point is 01:10:18 Not only that, imagine you get the neural link doesn't need to be surgically implanted. And so what happens is you say, I'm going to go work a job at a gas station, you know, because they need, or like, you know, insert tedious job. You attach the wireless Neuralink node to the back of your neck.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And then in your mind, you're hanging out playing video games with your buddies and your body is fixing tires. Like you said, if it doesn't have to be surgery, I bet everybody does. It doesn't have to be. I imagine the first thing we have to do is build the hardware that can transmit signals to the brain, which I believe we already have. It exists. They're little EEG patches.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Right. So it's like normally when you have something called epilepsy, you know, you've got different types of seizures. You've got absence seizures. You've got grand mal seizures. You've got the tonic-clonics, basically. And it's like they have to stick electrodes onto specific portions of your brain that run parallel to each other. So what they do is they use conducting gel, just stick a, you know, a conducting electrode. It's going to have to be more advanced than that.
Starting point is 01:11:27 They've got wireless version. Yeah. They've now got wireless versions that can actually do it. So I think they're going to have to map out millions or tens of millions of brains so that they can give the AI a basic model to start experimenting with to see like you need to record a person's. You need a lot of data for this. So I don't know how soon we can get to this point but it is possible what you need to do is you would need everyone to record their brain scans their their neural activity while explaining what it is they're doing and how they're doing it then the ai would correlate a person's active actions activities desires with the things being seen in the brain, compare all of the millions of brains, and then figure out, okay, 83%, you know, 83.2% chance that this means I'm hungry and this means I'm tired, and then start mapping that out.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Eventually, it becomes better and better and better. I think we're a bit ways away from something like that, but I think we're two or three years away from me sitting down at my PlayStation or the new console is going to be called Otherworld and there's no games made for it. Like Roblox is already at the point where it's like you make a game. We're going to be at the point where the Otherworld console is plugged in and then you just simply say,
Starting point is 01:12:38 I want to play a, man, what do I want to play? I want to play a platformer like Mario. Yeah, give me a game like Mario. And then it'll just make it. And then you'll be like, this is boring. Give me a first-person shooter with zombies. And then it will be like rendering. And then it will make the whole game.
Starting point is 01:12:54 And for a little bit more, they'll actually customize it. They'll say, oh, for a little bit more, you can import your data from all your social media networks, all your biometric feedback devices, and we can create the perfect game for you. One new game every week. Where we are now, right now, it is possible to make a game
Starting point is 01:13:11 where you have an AI girlfriend completely indistinguishable from a real person. So here's the issue. All of these robo girlfriends on mobile apps are like bullshit chatbots. If they were to utilize chat gpt then you would be dealing with some scary ass shit boy so they could make a video game and we talked about this before you can call on your phone you download the app and you press it
Starting point is 01:13:38 and it connects to their server where your digital friend significant other or whatever is there and you can say hey what did you do all day and And they'll be like, ah, I've been fighting dragons. It's like, oh, okay, cool, I'll be back in a little bit and we'll fight dragons together. And then you're playing a video game where you're wearing a headset and you see this character who's talking to you like a real person. I mean, I'm stoked for this. I'm stoked for them to implement this. And it's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And imagine, probably not this GTA, but I always thought about how cool it would be, you know, in GTA, do people have the same lines they say over and over again. Imagine if they incorporated chat GPT into GTA. You could run up to someone and they
Starting point is 01:14:14 say completely unique things to you every time. Depending on how, I want to integrate how long it takes you to respond, because if you're standing there looking at someone, they're going to be like, what are you looking at? What the fuck's wrong with you? And they'll get more aggro the longer you act weird. I'd love to start integrating that kind of thing into games. It could easily happen.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I don't know if you guys have saw it, but there's this little simulation where they use Pokemon-level sprites, but it runs off of AI. And eventually, these little sprites, basically, each one was assigned a specific ID. And they started creating like a little society and doing their own little thing going to visit each other having parties all using just sort of an ai model to do so what game is it it's not a game it's just it's a project and so you know it's called i cannot pokemon sprite project i want to do a hard segue to cover one last segment before we go to our callers because we'll do callers instead of super chats but we have this from noxnews.com oh this yep uh so oliver anthony is in some kind of like there's like some scandal going on where basically he had this show at it's
Starting point is 01:15:16 a venue called cotton-eyed joe and it got canceled and then he came out and said it was because of ticket prices being too high but there's some interesting stuff going on and i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you right away uh i think the dude's cool but i think look man when you take someone from humble beginnings and put them on a slingshot straight to the moon some shit gets fucked up real quick yeah so knox news reports this uh the show was canceled he said a new one it's already out. But I've got a couple posts that I want to highlight. Chris Burton posted this video from Oliver Anthony. Oliver Anthony cancels Cotton Eye Joe show, citing 90 to $200 tickets. He said, my shows should never cost more than 40 bucks.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Ideally, no more than 25. Okay, so when I saw this right away, I was like, this is what happens. And I mean no disrespect when somebody who's never been in the industry is launched right into it and is shocked to discover why prices cost so much it's because that's how much it costs the immediate assumption people had is like oliver oliver anthony's attitude is hey man i i normally charge $25 for my shows. Yeah, my friend, dude, your shows were like 50 people in a small bar. If you're talking about
Starting point is 01:16:30 a 1,550 person venue, it's going to get crazy on this. But here's what breaks down. He made another video clarifying. Cotton Eye Joe posts this. They said, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to for the customers of the world famousfamous Cotton Joe.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Most times we say a show has been cancelled due to circumstances beyond our control. Well, we are cancelling the Oliver Anthony show under our full control. All refunds will be made in the next few business days to our original form of payment. To your original form of payment. The Northman of Richmond. Is that? That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:17:01 What a weird one. Yeah, weird. Contracted to play the cotton-eyed joe for 120 000 for 60 minutes after doing the math and knowing we could only hold approximately 1500 people paying paying the ticket website their fee to sell the tickets paying the tax man opening the joe on a closed night we set the ticket price to break even and bring out and bring our customers a show we thought would be fun to our talent agency and promoter friends that follow us. Be careful booking the Northman of Richmond.
Starting point is 01:17:30 They locked the post and Oliver Anthony issued this statement. He said, Cotton Eye Joe claims we are charging people $120,000 per show. They have since turned the comments off, but I want to clarify the most I've ever made on a show is $35,000. We've had two shows in NC that were completely free and another show that was scheduled September 23rd in Kentucky turned the comments off, but I want to clarify. The most I've ever made on a show is $35,000.
Starting point is 01:17:49 We've had two shows in NC that were completely free and another show that was scheduled September 23rd in Kentucky for a cancer benefit. All right, I'm going to tell you exactly what I think right now before we jump into this because Phil's got tons of experience in this kind of stuff. The question is, did Oliver Anthony charge $120,000 for one show? His answer, the most I've ever made on a show is $35,000. I'm sorry, that's not the question we asked. We didn't ask you, how much money have you made off one show? We asked you, the question is, did you charge this much? I think the answer is yes. Here's what I think happens.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Oliver Anthony said he wanted to bring in his buddy to do his booking, and I imagine his buddy booked this event, and they say, you know, how much does Oliver Anthony want for this night and he says 120 000 is going right right now and they said all right we can make that happen they set the ticket prices accordingly if you were to if you were to take uh so a venue is going to have
Starting point is 01:18:35 80 to 90 percent of their tickets are going to be 90 bucks so the 90 to 200 range is overwhelmingly going to be 90 90 because those are like standing room and and some seats vip is going to be $90 because those are like standing room and some seats. VIP is going to be a small amount. I did the math on this. 1,500 people at that price, it's going to come out to, I think, like $150,000. If Oliver Anthony's charging $120,000, then they got to pay taxes, fees, and everything. Break even sounds about right. I think Oliver Anthony's crew made the mistake of not realizing what it meant to charge that much money, then probably had a backlash in charging so much for the show, said, no, we don't do that.
Starting point is 01:19:09 So the venue cancels and now they're they're in over their head. But I'm curious your thoughts, Phil. I don't know what his situation is. I mean, there is a lot that goes into, you know, putting on a show. It's not just one dude showing up with a guitar and stuff. I don't know if it likely was just an experience. It likely was somewhere someone said, oh, you know, we should get this kind of money or whatever. They didn't do the math.
Starting point is 01:19:38 But you can go to any venue and you can literally do the math as to how many people can fit in how much you you know how much it costs for the overhead for the place how much all of your staff is going to cost your security how much you're going to have to pay your uh your your other bands or whatever your other acts that are playing insurance all yeah all the whole nine so this venue probably said we'll break even on this because we're going to sell out and sell booze. So it works out for us. And then it means ticket prices are through the roof. And usually artists will go in and they'll try and take as much of the ticket price as they can.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Like if all that remains can go into a venue and take all the ticket money, we will. We'll be like, this is what we want. You know, we know what it's going to cost. We know what you're going to make. And we know what blah, blah, blah. This is how much we want to play. And we're the entertainment to bring people in and the booze is yours exactly and because they're going to make 10 times what they pay us on booze so i want everyone uh you know everybody
Starting point is 01:20:32 who went to the austin event we lost money doing that we we i think we i think we lost i i i want to be careful because numbers are are serious business So I don't know the exact amount, but I am pretty sure based on the accounting, we probably lost around 10 grand doing that. We sold tickets. We sold out the show. The tickets were like 130 to 50 bucks expensive and we lost money. It's not easy to do this stuff. And so I think when you see something like this these guys
Starting point is 01:21:06 forced full speed into the limelight the first guy to ever break onto the charts at number one with no history ever yeah that's wow and then he gets his buddy to do his booking his buddy's probably just like man look how much we can charge and the venue's like you got it boss we'll charge it we know you got the draw And then they were shocked to find their working class fans can't afford to pay for it. Why would you, why would he not then be like, okay, I'll take 60,000 instead?
Starting point is 01:21:32 Well, I mean, if he's already sold the tickets. They have to refund them. Yeah. Like there's nothing the venue can do. So I bet he went to them and said, hey guys, why is it so expensive? And they said,
Starting point is 01:21:41 well, we got it. We're paying you. It's like, do the math. we're going to be doing 1400 tickets at 90 bucks it's 127 000 we got we got ticket fees we got taxes the vip stuff is is only a handful of tickets maybe like 10 to 20 of them and then he probably said okay i'll take less just drop it and they're like we would have to refund everybody and he's like shit yeah that's a nightmare so that's probably why because the venue cod and i joe they said they canceled
Starting point is 01:22:09 on their own so yeah i wonder i wonder if look i hate to rag on the guy but i wonder if he just went and said hey well you take it too expensive and they were like well that's the cost of how much it's gonna to do this and he said no i refuse to do the show if you're charging this much and they said fine yeah i mean it was definitely i don, I don't imagine that the dude was, is like, oh, I'm going to try and cash in and grab a hundred grand or whatever. Like, like, you know, as if this one show is going to be like the big cash grab for his life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Anybody that's got a song that is doing well, the thing you're thinking of is how am I going to make sure that I can follow this up? They're feeling it out. Yeah. So I do think that it's a bad look for him to be charging, for it to cost this much, but I have a feeling that it was all because of inexperienced people being tossed into the deep end
Starting point is 01:23:01 without knowing how the business works. Yeah, you is why best friend are you one of your good friends to do a job they don't know man maduro in venezuela yep you get a bus driving around the country what do you think's gonna happen but this is why you don't hear stories about big rock bands dealing with these kinds of things it's it's rare it's unsurprising that a dude who's not used to this level of of you know magnitude is having this issue i mean this is what happens. And look, being a booking agent is a massive pain
Starting point is 01:23:28 in the dick. You have to get you have to, like you're literally getting venues all over the place to figure, you have to figure out when you can send this person to blah blah blah. It has to be within a certain amount of distance because you have to be able to make it. I don't know if he's got a bus. Buses have to have a skirt. You can
Starting point is 01:23:44 only have so much distance. You have to turn it off. All kinds of it. Didn't know if he's got a bus buses have to have a skirt you can only have so much dry uh distance you have to turn it off all kinds of didn't uh queen get electrocuted or was it was that which band got electrocuted a lot of bands right so probably so there's that famous story about the brown m&ms metallica didn't they get they he got he got caught on fire yeah yeah yeah so let me explain for for people like when we an event, we're doing TimCast IRL live in Miami. This is not what it is. It is not we all fly to Miami, have stage set up, and then do the show. No. It is nine months ago, we sent our events coordinator.
Starting point is 01:24:23 First, our events coordinator started researching venues. Then flew down to Miami to have meetings with several different venues to figure out what can accommodate, how many people we can expect to bring in, what kind of venue can accommodate our kind of audience, the politics of the matter. So we have to spend a couple thousand dollars on travel and accommodation and salary
Starting point is 01:24:40 for the individual to go down and do that. Then once we finally do decide on a venue, they want a deposit, which is several thousand dollars more. Then we have to send down tech crew and the coordinator again to start doing prep work and preparing for the technology to figuring out how we're going to set the show, who's going to sit where, what kind of camera is going to be in what position.
Starting point is 01:24:59 We have to probably send crew out there back and forth. And then once we get closer to the event date, here's what else we have to do. In order for us to be able to do it we need accommodations for our entire crew and the show timcast irl for the week of the event which means not only are we paying for the venue we now have to find a suite penthouse or house where we can build a temporary podcast studio to host the show for the week which is then why we have to send out the event coordinator and the tech people once again to build another studio so it is really difficult to do when you're talking about these big bands and you're like hey we're going to be passing through the city they've got tour buses the costs are not just what you see
Starting point is 01:25:34 at the venue so when he's saying like i need 120k there's so much other stuff around what this venue has to do outside of what he has to do it's easy for a dude who's like played small local shows going to get up his acoustic guitar and sing to be prepared for this, especially if you're coming from humble beginnings. But I think this is what happens when, look, when I first started doing public speaking, I think my rate was like $2,000 to have me come speak somewhere. Why? That's what I was worth. It covered my costs. It was a good amount for a single day's work speaking for two hours. But the agency that repped me had people getting paid $50,000. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, how is that person who's not in the press, not getting attention and doesn't have the demand charging so much more?
Starting point is 01:26:21 It was an entirely different experience these individuals were famous for best-selling books and they would craft a presentation for the event and i was a flavor of the month showing up for an hour to talk about what just happened in the press i learned that lesson had i not known it and got invited to speak somewhere like this i'd be like i think i should get large sums of cash and then they'd be like all right whatever I should get large sums of cash. And then they'd be like, all right, whatever you say. I never did that, but I'm not surprised it's happened to them. Well, that's because you did mention them. It's concerning when a big superstar brings their friend on to make some money on the side. Like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I don't know. I don't want to judge him. Let me address Recchi in the members chat. He said, buy an RV and make it a mobile podcast studio. We have two of those. We did it in Austin. We did it in Nashville. And the reason we're not doing it again,
Starting point is 01:27:08 then you have to send a crew to drive the vehicle down with a CDL, a commercial driver's license. Yup. Because the weight of the RV and the truck exceed the limit for a standard personal recreational vehicle. Then we have to put all the equipment inside of it.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Yo, then it's like, dude, then we got, like all the equipment inside of it yo then it's like you yeah that was then we got that we had like alex jones installed for us because he's a good dude a an rv port hookup because we knew we would need power but we were thinking we'll run extension cables out the windows to power everything and uh when alex saw what we were doing he was like i'm gonna have my guys come and install an rv plug so that so that you have power throughout the whole unit. And we were like, dude, wow. It's only a couple hundred bucks to do, but it was an awesome thing to do because we didn't ask him.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He just went and did it. We did it in Nashville as well. And for Nashville, there was no RV hookup. We had to run like five extension cables into the Daily Wire's building to make this happen. And then we were like, wow, it's probably easier to drive a single truck with the equipment and rent a building. What we're doing now is we're going to rent an actual production studio and then
Starting point is 01:28:11 build out a set design for the week. If we want to do these shows where we go on the road, this is why we've only done like two, we've done one so far and we're doing another one. If we're going to do more of these, this is what is required to be able to have TimCastirl monday through friday monday through thursday in our studio and then friday live it is incredibly difficult and i i believe it's fair to say the only reason that we will
Starting point is 01:28:37 make money in miami is because public square is fucking awesome and sponsored the event so i think we likely would have lost um relative to the cost of this event the tickets and the size of the venue we would lose a comparable amount of money which is cool because it means we made a lot more but we lose money doing it but i i think it's important to bring people out so that people can meet each other schmooze they can meet people that they're fans of we can sell merch and bring that physical presence to you which is why i'm hoping you know there's a lot of people who are saying i'll just watch it live and i'm like well i get it it's gonna cost like 200 bucks a person i hope if you can do it you do show up because you know thanks to public square it's turned into something very
Starting point is 01:29:17 profitable for us that's awesome but when we're setting these events up we can't cross our fingers and hope public square will save the day and and make it something that'll work for us because when we're setting this up we're like okay how much do we can't cross our fingers and hope Publixware will save the day and make it something that will work for us. Because when we're setting this up, we're like, okay, how much do we expect to lose off this event? Well, if we charge $175 per ticket, we'll probably lose $10,000. I'm like, all right, we can lose that. You know, like the members already pay enough to subsidize this, and the public events are good in a lot of different ways. And we're hoping that sponsors eventually come in to pick up the show. The initial sponsorships that we had planned were going to put us just above even, and
Starting point is 01:29:49 then Public Square came in, and they were like, guys, we want to sponsor the whole event. We want to be the main sponsors, and we're going to make it worth your while, and we were like, dude, this just basically saved the day. These guys are awesome. We're huge fans, but that's the inside baseball there that I want to talk about, so super cool. I don't know. This is a totally different topic. But the Ross alerts and another agency are reporting that Taiwan says it is detected 68 Chinese warplanes near the island.
Starting point is 01:30:18 And that was 10 minutes ago, 15 minutes ago. So I remember that like Taiwan's idea of how next down is a lot bigger than most countries because they've extended their rights further out. So when you hear the alert like, oh, it's close to Taiwan, it means it was within 60 or 70 miles. Yeah, actually, let me... I can show you. I think China will likely graze Taiwan as they normally do. But if you look here, see these islands, right?
Starting point is 01:30:43 Like, you can barely see them. These little... Not those. Those are... That's dirt. That's dirt. but if you look here see these islands right like you can barely see them these little not those those are that's dirt that's dirt there are islands like around here
Starting point is 01:30:48 super close to China or it might be these there are islands far away from Taiwan that are considered Taiwan and China flies around these and say hey you're in our territory again
Starting point is 01:30:57 it's probably those ones but either way I mean important to either way yeah still think about that why don't we go to callers
Starting point is 01:31:03 we got a bit more callers tonight yes we do we just gave a little more callers tonight. Yes, we do. We just gave a little more. I think we have seven today. I think it's seven. Nice. Anyways, let's just start with the average Vespasian because I recognize your name. How are you tonight? Hope you're well. What up?
Starting point is 01:31:18 You're with us. Or not. They may not. It looks like you're still muted. Yeah, just got to mute yourself. We'll come back to them, you're still muted yeah just gotta mute yourself we'll we'll come back to them i guess we'll just keep going till we find somebody here uh cloud spit what is going on yes sir always ready to join thank you nice uh hello from polk county florida um i became a father about three weeks ago congratulations thank you it made me reflect a lot about um just my daughter's future in the country so here's my question i'm curious what the
Starting point is 01:31:53 whole group thinks what what is the new american dream because i don't think it's the traditional one with the way the housing market is the car prices prices, the world economy. I feel the new one for my daughter or the future generations should have more of cultural statements instead of economic ones. So I'm just curious, where do you see that new American dream? I feel like the American dream was always that you could work hard and succeed, and that still exists. That's it they're there i think people have become so um i don't know adapted to how awesome america is they don't understand anymore it used to be you were born into a class and that's all you'd ever be there are certain countries where that's still the case i mean india because they have a caste
Starting point is 01:32:40 system then in america it was, you can become anything you want. And that's the American dream is you can roll your sleeves up, start working, make a bunch of money, and then become successful, become wealthy, and become one of the nobles and the elites. Somehow, the American dream turned into you get to be rich. Yo, the people who move from China, a five-person family, they move into a single bedroom, one-bedroom apartment, and the father works 16 hours a day, and then his kids grow up and then get to live in their own apartments and have middle-class lives.
Starting point is 01:33:15 That's the American dream. It still exists. You just have to work really hard. The problem is the younger generations are so accustomed to extreme luxury without responsibility. They don't understand. Like, it's like we're talking about with Oliver Anthony. You take someone who's poor, they win the lottery. They do not understand what it takes to be there, right? We were talking about this before the show, why it is that people win the lottery go
Starting point is 01:33:40 broke. Like, how do you win $50 million and go broke it's like okay well they buy a car the car has wear and tear they have no income to fix that car they uh buy a mansion the mansion requires a staff to maintain they don't have income they lose that money very very quickly so you know for us like the castle uh we have to pay we have to pay like thousands of dollars every month for it to be cleaned and we have to hire someone to manage and maintain it. More than one person, actually. Because anybody who owns a house knows this. Wear and tear is a disaster.
Starting point is 01:34:10 If you fall asleep and wake up and your basement's flooded because a pipe burst and you didn't notice, holy fuck. We had a leak in my house. And it destroyed the basement. We had to rip the ceiling out. Cost thousands of dollars. Imagine somebody wins the lottery. They get $200 million. They buy a $15, $20 million mansion.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Then they're like sitting in their pool. Pipe bursts in the basement. But they ignore it because they don't go in the basement. Two days goes by before they finally realize something's wrong. And now they've got $30,000 in damages. That shit stacks up. So anyway, outside of that, my point is, apply that view to what
Starting point is 01:34:49 America is. Kids who won the lottery and were born to wealth, to globally wealthy, and not, I don't understand people aren't wealthy, but for the world we are, with air conditioning, with refrigerators, with microwaves, clean running water, they did not have to build the pipes, clean the water, develop refrigerators, with microwaves, clean running water. They did not have to build the pipes,
Starting point is 01:35:06 clean the water, develop the chemicals, do the research. They just have it. And now, if they're getting older and they're being told, hey, these things you have have to be maintained, they're like, well, I never. The American dream is dead! The American dream was never you're born into wealth and get to be rich for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 01:35:21 You know, my estimation of the American dream is the rest of your life. So, you know, the, my estimation of the American dream is the ownership of your own like destiny, right? So like owning a business, a lot of people get so used to the idea that you have to get a job. And to be honest with you, like a job is the safe route, right?
Starting point is 01:35:42 You're relying on someone else to provide you with income. And just if you go to work for a company that's established, just so long as the owner of the company or whoever's running it manages it properly, you can go to work. You have a paycheck and it's something that's reliable. When you start your own thing, there's a big risk. But jobs infrequently pay off in the same way that owning something does. Um, it was a big risk for me to try and start a band, you know, um, really, really, really big risk because it just doesn't work. Like if you tell, if a kid tells you, oh, I'm going to be a rock star.
Starting point is 01:36:19 How many kids say that? Like 90% of kids at some point are like, oh, I want to be in a band. And then, you know, one in possibly a million or maybe one in 500,000 actually becomes a successful musician. So it's almost outside of realistic to think about it. But at the same time, I did risk a lot to do it and things worked out well. And now I have, you you know income that comes in whether i do anything or not you know like the the the royalties come in people we have a fan base people listen to our stuff when we put me like we put music out we know that people are going to listen to it they're going to spin it um and people consistently this is another thing
Starting point is 01:37:02 that's that's that we're super fortunate about as people grow like when you're young and you get into music like those bands you tend to take with you for the rest of your life so if you get into a band when you're a teenager like i still listen to a lot most of the same bands that i listened to when i was a kid and there's not a whole lot of new bands in in my repertoire and that happens to most people so for someone like me thankfully we've we've been able to have that kind of career where people listen to us but the that's i think that's what the american dream is it's the ability to build something that's yours that can sustain you so that way you don't feel like you're working for someone else you don't
Starting point is 01:37:42 feel like you're you know you're grinding for someone else all communists are always complaining about oh you give you're giving your surplus value to the boss well get the fuck up and do something yourself yeah well so pardon me but uh do you want to uh jump in real quick elaborate a little bit or is what do you think oh is that to me sorry yeah yeah on video um you know i agree with you and i think that you know i've been listening to you for years now and i think i i do agree with you but i also think polit not politically speaking but just geographically in america that's easier done in certain places in america than, I think. So I agree, you know, make your own destiny is definitely American. I'm definitely gonna be raising my
Starting point is 01:38:32 daughter the right way. She's going to be kind of just like me trying to do her own thing and be successful. But I am afraid of, you know, a lot of the things sometimes that we talk about culture wise, with, you know, where's women's sports going to be in the future? What is she going to see in her own locker room? What are the things that are going to affect her culturally to destroy that dream? And how can I protect her, at least teach her how to learn through it? Yeah, right. Those are tough questions, man.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Yeah, you get out ahead of it. You're ahead of it now. Keep speaking about it. Make noise. Make ripples and clear the path right now man well best of luck though and thanks for calling in cheers man i appreciate it thanks everyone cheers all right uh let's see if average vespasian for you uh vespasian uh can you uh are you with us oh it's average Vespasian respecter. Oh, respecter. Oh,
Starting point is 01:39:25 that's right. That's right. Um, a Roman emperor. Is that right? Believe, uh, heads.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Oh, I think it was like a class of people. Anyways. Uh, I guess we'll come back to you again. Maximus, you are on the air. How's it going guys?
Starting point is 01:39:41 So I got a pretty simple question. Um, it's, it's kind of Malcolm and Tim, uh, what can we do to raise more grassroots movements to shield small businesses and things like supporting each other and like civil disobedience against edicts? Typically, I mean, the best way that you can do anything like that is actually raising children and the reason why i say that is that you have to actually have a feeder system where your ideas are naturally proliferating so it's not like you just throw a whole bunch of money into like think tanks and individuals that are going to bankroll something and try to make it happen because that's inorganic you literally have to build the culture from the ground up now where we suck at is that unfortunately
Starting point is 01:40:29 you know and phil will phil will agree to this the communists got about 30 something years on us which you're seeing the fruition of their plan but the thing is what they do which is the emphasis of you know liberty and you know sort of um self-ownership that sort of, you know, liberty and, you know, sort of self-ownership, that sort of deal, you know, prosperity. All of that has an expiration date, whereas what we're building or what we could build doesn't. It just requires your savvy. I'll get a little bit more clear. My mom and dad have definitely chased the American dream. And I work for my father and my mother is our secretary
Starting point is 01:41:06 and you know there there's a there's a certain amount of civil disobedience you can do and and turning your cheek to uh certain things and and I don't want to get specific because you know unfortunately with civil disobedience comes uh responsibility a lot a lot and being a small family owned and operated business it's it's very difficult to uh disobey orders and not have any resources to reach out to. And I'm wondering what we can do as a network to offer resources to people who are on purpose, not following direct edicts, not necessarily laws, but edicts. Yeah, that's going to come kind of in part
Starting point is 01:41:59 of what Public Square is doing. Yeah, I mean, we're trying to do this thing where we're creating this anti this thing where uh you know we're creating this anti-time square because you have to build culture because a lot of people will not be leaders they will be followers and that means they're only going to oppose edict if they feel social pressures in order to do so the cops will will beat the shit out of you if they're told to do it so long as society expects them to but if the cops know that beating the shit out of you if they're told to do it so long as society expects them to but if the cops know that beating the shit out of you will result in them being shunned and ostracized they'll back the fuck off
Starting point is 01:42:28 unfortunately for us the left has weaponized this obvious fact by creating scenarios where the cops don't enforce any crime because they're scared of what will happen you had that woman who robbed that liquor store tried to murder that cop over a couple bottles of booze he shoots in self-defense and now they're protesting for her she She tried to fucking kill this guy. Man, I hate these people. They're evil, evil people. But they're protesting for her and cops are like,
Starting point is 01:42:53 look, man, you know, when I go to town, I'll put it this way, go to Frederick, Maryland and look at all of the cult flags that fly everywhere. So many of them. And imagine being a cop
Starting point is 01:43:02 and knowing you need to go in there to get a bagel or something. You know they're going to yell at you. You know there's weird shit's going to happen because they use the power of ostracization against you. We need that in the right direction, which is when you're evil,
Starting point is 01:43:18 you get shunned. Get what go broke. We need it that if you fly a pride flag, the progress pride flag, I don't care about a rainbow flag, but the progress pride cult flag, you fly that, I i don't go to your store you don't get my money netflix disney bud light all that stuff we need to weaponize that against them that's how you make those changes and then what happens is the pedophile cultists start going i better not put
Starting point is 01:43:40 up my pet my pedo flag Exactly. We will tell those people. We will shun you if you fly your creepo flag. Yeah. Oh, I totally agree. I drew my line in the sand a long time ago. During the first pandemic, I wore my mask maybe a total of 15 times. And I had my son born during the pandemic. So that was like five of the times.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Wow. Hell yeah, man. If I had a customer that requested, I wore a mask. I looked at them and I told them, if you really want to be safe, you should just leave the house while I'm working. Yeah. Good one. Good. Yeah. But that's, that's what we do. And, uh, you know, for us, we had the idea of setting up all these storefronts and man, this is like my mission. This is my dream right now. And we're investing a lot.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Just spent a lot of money on a large commercial property in Martinsburg. We've got a couple now. And I'm really hoping that we can launch. I mean, it's going to require Terrence Williams to do his thing. Jack Posobiec to do his thing. And any other businesses that we can get. But how fucking amazing would it be if three blocks of downtown in a city are all parallel economy stores? It's going to it's going to be like one big public square for public square.
Starting point is 01:44:57 All those businesses that believe in American values. Here's what you're going to do. So so my mom's asking me, she's helping set up the coffee shop. How do we do Saturday morning cartoons with pancakes and waffles and all that stuff? I mean, we're going to have to build a kitchen. No, no, no, no. Catering from Cousin T's Diner. There you go. Saturday morning when we have our event and the families come with their kids to meet, build community and watch family-friendly cartoons, we're going to have pancakes,
Starting point is 01:45:22 sausage, waffles, eggs, and it's going to come from across the street at Cousin T's. And we're going to have the box of Cousin T's there promoting him saying, you know, we do this once every Saturday, but you guys should go over there for your diner food. Papa Jack's Pizza Shack is going to be the coolest thing ever. We'll have a little arcade section like they used to. Some video games. Yeah, man. And I think we can pull this off in a couple of years and make it. Because what we're talking about is collective expansion. We're launching our coffee shop. We get Jack Posobiec to start working on a pizza place. We get Cousin T, a diner.
Starting point is 01:45:55 You have to mute yourself. We get everyone else who hears this. Like conservative dad's ultra-right beer. Open a liquor store. Open a bar or something. And then we just have this strip. What that will do is, yo,
Starting point is 01:46:09 everyone's going to want to come visit. It will be a tourist spot for those that believe in this country and want to see this parallel time square. I'm super excited. We're going to need an arcade. We're going to need just to, just to, ah, it's a social club.
Starting point is 01:46:21 I'm super excited, but I think this is how we do it. We build social and cultural power max smith anything else to use the discord to organize your blue collar end of things because you actually have a lot more resources in your discord than you might think to get things actually moving well so the the the issue is always you need hit men right you need that one person who's a specialist who knows how to get it done. We want to launch a franchise for Casper Coffee.
Starting point is 01:46:47 We have no idea how to do it. Oh, hold on. Chef Gruul knows how to do all this stuff. Totally. So we asked him for help. He's like, let's roll. He's going to come down. You need financing.
Starting point is 01:46:57 You need funding. Like, the only person who's going to be able to run a Cousin T's Diner is Terrence Williams. The only person who's going to be able to run a Papa Jack's Pizza Shack is Jack Posobiec the only person who's gonna be able to run a papa jack's pizza shack is jack posobic i want to make sure we can provide all the help we can and we build that coalition but we need those leaders to build those spaces and outside of that it's hard for like this is what we need first terrence williams has to say yes and then yes the discord is right there and we can tell people like hey reach out to our crew and see what you need because these people are all there to help you build it and that's how we make it that that that that will do it yeah totally i'm excited man anyway thanks for thanks
Starting point is 01:47:34 for calling in i don't know is there anything else wanted to add before we move on uh just everybody should uh check out the discord there's a couple of pre-shows uh starting at 5 15 and uh thank you very much tim right on thanks for calling it cheers man discord especially to my team man those guys are good they're on it yeah everyone everyone talks about you on this one actually from what i've been told um perceptual jonathan you're with us how are you tonight i think doing pretty well how are you guys doing doing well well too. Pretty good. Yeah, so Tim, you've mentioned a couple times, like you referred to it earlier today,
Starting point is 01:48:10 this case from Wyoming with Artemis Langford, but the case has actually been ongoing for about a year now. So back when you were in the Artemis Langford one in Wyoming, the trans guy at the sorority. Oh, right. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I did a segment on that. So uh the trans guy at the sorority oh right yes yes yeah yeah i did a segment on that
Starting point is 01:48:26 so back so back when you were at the tp usa event in phoenix last december um we had vivek and lauren chen um you'd read my super chat about this so you what happened was langford got admitted into the sorority last October. And last November, there's a friend of mine who goes to the university, like he lives in Laramie, and he tables at the university. He has kind of like a Stephen Crowder sign there, usually every Friday.
Starting point is 01:48:57 So he sets up, you know, just some Bibles and stuff. And he talks to people about, you know, Jesus and the Bible and whatever. And he talks to people about, you know, Jesus and the Bible and whatever. And this one day he put on his sign, God created them male and female and Artemis Langford is a male. Wow. As you can imagine, the gender theorists at UW lost their mind. They wouldn't like that.
Starting point is 01:49:18 And Todd, so the university barred my friend Todd Schmidt from tabling for a year. So he is sued and a judge has put an injunction on that suspension. Interesting. So this was coming down from the president of the university, Ed Seidel. And the question would be, how do you actually think you can get these universities to fall in line? So there was a proposal among a handful of people in the Wyomingoming legislator to go and slash the uw budget by 25 and as far as i can tell that died well and this is in wyoming which has like three democrats in the entire state government yeah i mean that judge who was like i'm not going to define what
Starting point is 01:49:56 a woman is yeah fuck man it's it's you're gonna have to force the culture i think the mistake a lot of people on the right had made is that they're like, if we pass a law, we solve the problem. It's like, no, when you own Disney, you solve the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:09 And that's a hard fought battle. So maybe it sounds a little, I know just like a, like a, uh, sound like a broken record, but this is why I want to do this anti-time square. It may not seem related,
Starting point is 01:50:23 but make it unthinkable. If this person wants to go into the sorority and like people need to understand this, this, this dude, I do not give respect to fake trans people. If, if someone comes here and they are trans, I have no problem using their pronouns. I don't use neo pronouns, but this person is accused of staring at a woman undressed while groping him like while stroking himself like this is this is not the story of a trans person who is struggling this is a story of a pervert who wants to beat off while looking at naked chicks yep normalize that and that's that's
Starting point is 01:50:56 what that's the story that's being that's the why there's a lawsuit so i'm just like yeah we should not be at a place where it's acceptable. And we have to create social pressures where these people feel like if they do this, they will be shunned from society. That is the solution across the board. It's how cancel culture works. People are scared to speak up and say they support Trump because they'll get fired from their jobs.
Starting point is 01:51:18 The left figured it out and weaponized it. We've got to push back. And it's not so much that I would call this cancel culture. I would say it's called society. Let call it consequence culture we do not accept so you had gays against groomers holding an event and far leftists came and protested it well there's only one solution here if you're protesting if you're holding events saying pedophilia is bad and a group of people show up saying fuck you that group of people are pedophile supporters they're pedophiles and pedophile allies call them what they are yep so i thought it was funny like
Starting point is 01:51:51 if someone held an event saying like we're holding an event to criticize nambla and then a bunch of people showed up protesting i'd be like nambla supporters yeah yeah just call them pedophiles yeah we have to we have to make what they support unthinkable. And that's how you do it, man. That's what they do for us. Make the judge terrified that if he allows a dude to masturbate while staring at these sorority girls, that people are going to file suits against him. That judge should be removed.
Starting point is 01:52:17 There should be a recall effort. People in Wyoming should be like, file whatever we need to file to have that judge disbarred or whatever it is you do to a judge impeached, I think it is. And be like, any judge who can't define the word woman should not be a judge. He's mentally compromised. In fact, you know what I would do? Here's what you can do.
Starting point is 01:52:34 If I lived in Wyoming, I would file whatever it is you have to file to have that judge removed on the ground that he is cognitively compromised and incapable of doing his job. And the evidence is he can't define the word woman. Let him answer that in court. Let it be said, and let the people of Wyoming watch it happen. You just got to do it. You got to do it. Someone has to do it. Take the court.
Starting point is 01:52:55 That's exactly it, man. Most of society is unfortunately filled with midwits, and us midwits, we love optics. And so if the optics are something based on societal perceptions are good people are going to do it they're going to say okay cool if the optics are bad they're not going to do it it's that simple yep true that uh anything else sad my friend jonathan yeah no i think that's good um i mean todd um you know i will show for him todd would make a great guest uh for the show culture war whatever um you know if I will show for him. Todd would make a great guest for the show, culture war,
Starting point is 01:53:25 whatever. You know, if you're interested just to talk about the fun he was having with the UW administration, we're working on a women's sports and spaces culture war. So, and I don't book it, but I, I think we might have people already planned for it,
Starting point is 01:53:41 but we'll see, you know, I'll mention it. All right. To be completely honest with you guys, like when it comes comes to booking like i have no idea what's going on like cassandra and lisa reynolds are the ones that take care of everything and so we get a lot of suggestions very rarely do i intervene so like like uh i'll just say it elon musk was in dc today and i was like what do we have to do and you know of course it's not gonna happen like we can't it's like elon musk man but like it's it's the rare time where i'm like
Starting point is 01:54:08 hitting them up being like what what are our options and our options are like dude come on i'm like i know but come on it's elon i i'll be honest like i dm'd him and he's just you know there's no word so but maybe in the future but anyway thanks for calling him thanks john yeah i don't mean like he knows who we are he follows he follows a lot of us he's um I I it would be amazing if we were to talk about AI because I was talking about AI all day but anyway let's uh jump to the next caller Rob SMF you are on the air how are you good how are you guys doing you hear me loud and clear hey I had a question but Tim I wanted to point out that we have a sitting supreme court justice that can't define what a woman is so we'd have to let her as well i agree um yeah i it literally
Starting point is 01:54:52 causes me physical freaking pain please file that suit yeah someone's gotta do it i'm glad i'm glad you said that because actually i called in i want to tell you um i've been listening to you for a long time and you're a big reason why I finally got up and did something. I'm actually a director on a non-profit here in Washington State. Nice. And we've been suing the government since 2021.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Nice, man. I've got a number of lawsuits. I know they want us to ask a question and not be a guest on the show so I'll ask my question and I'll talk about it later. That's alright. You've got to raise up my amount of time to just say your thing you know what i mean it's all right um well basically our foundation is is in the middle of a number of lawsuits right now and a number one that's really interesting that you might be interested in um is pertaining to gators gators guns gators custom guns um out of calis County here in Washington you get a chance to look them up
Starting point is 01:55:46 the attorney general is going after them directly so we're going to be working for them and a number of things second amendment first amendment rights defending doctors all kinds of stuff here in Washington so it's silent majority foundation you can find us at silentmajorityfoundation.org. Cool. Or we've got a shortened site. It's smfjb.org. All right. FJB. So my question is, we've been fighting this battle here in Washington. And really what we're finding out is that the government has control, decentralized control at the state level, and then we have it at the federal level,
Starting point is 01:56:26 and it's really what's causing the problems here at the local level. What is the pathway for us to bring power back to the local level? How do we get there? Oh man, it's cultural. It's building community, spreading the knowledge,
Starting point is 01:56:41 and building a base of people who work towards local politicians and believe in local governance there are a lot of races uh where nobody runs it's crazy like i i remember in chicago there'd be like a certain position for government and it would be like one person running unopposed and it's like that's kind of fucking crazy if you think about it some random dude says i would like this job and no one challenges it so they're just given that job that's nuts imagine if like like at&t needed a new ceo but nobody applied and then one guy applies and they're like well
Starting point is 01:57:16 it's yours because you're the only one and the guy was like a server at a at a fast food restaurant you know or like a cast casual restaurant and they're like he was the only one who applied so he gets the job. Like, no, it's insane. It's insane. So I agree. Local politics is where it's at. That's the most important thing.
Starting point is 01:57:30 It's going to require you convincing people to be passionate about local politics, which is very difficult. But it used to be that people would go to church, they'd hang out, they'd talk, and they built community that way. And that's why I think the Saturday morning cartoons, the cafe stuff is a path forward.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Because then when you have 15 parents and 30 kids, the kids are all playing and socializing with each other and the parents are discussing exactly this. Who are we going to vote for? What do you think's going on? One person says, did you hear that that new teacher came in and she's trying to teach the critical race stuff? And I no yeah we got to vote these people out that's how you do it it really is like i suppose the advice i can give is think about what you can do in your area to hold community events to bring people together and meet people and network church used to be it but you know if that's not going to be it we need something else gotta find something different you'd be surprised how many people live around each other and don't even know like don't Church used to be it, but if that's not going to be it, we need something else. Got to find something different.
Starting point is 01:58:25 You'd be surprised how many people live around each other and don't even know their next-door neighbors. Imagine if y'all got together, had an interest, and said, you know what? I hate the road. Suck here. Hey, let's see if we can get some money together, and let's go talk to a politician or something or our local councilman. And then you start lobbying and you you get into all those those power politics and then next thing you know stuff starts getting done yeah yeah true that yeah i didn't add rob yeah i i like what you had to say um that's
Starting point is 01:58:58 essentially what we've been trying to do and we're working towards and we're making some progress but it's it's slow coming here in washington i know yeah you're aware of what's going on here so i mean we appreciate the time thanks for calling in man appreciate it brother we've been trying to get the cafe set up for like a year it's just it's it's so i mean we try to get free domistan set up for in two years holy shit it's been a long time i know i'm here and it's just like one thing after a fucking another it's crazy there's a farm nearby it's just like one thing after a fucking another. It's crazy. There's a farm nearby. It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:59:27 They have farm fresh meats. They have organic cream only for your animals and organic milk only for your pets. But we know what's really going on. But they were telling me that it took them two years to get their barn set up. They were like, it was built. It was ready to go. Anybody could have walked in and bought it, but the fucking government. They didn't say it like that.
Starting point is 01:59:44 I say it like that. I say it like that. A couple more words. Anyways, Schoon, tell us about how much you love the government. Oh, it's my favorite. There you go. First of all, I want to say I'm so thankful for y'all. I love the show. I had to write out my answer because I don't want to get so excited
Starting point is 02:00:02 and forget something. Forgive me if I sound a little robotic. It's OK. So quickly. Yeah. Yeah. Quickly. Thank you all for being willing to speak about such sensitive topics in such contentious times, especially in for being willing to ask strange but honest questions in a group of people who usually disagree with you, to be honest.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Really, you are an inspiration. Amen to that. Tim. Yeah, Tim, I always thought you were awesome. But you honestly became one of my idols when I saw a slow mo video of you doing a nollie hard flip rewind. Yeah, that was next level. I was expecting like some like tiny little pop shove. And then I saw that I was like, Oh my god. Okay. Um, about me. I'm a 24 year old from Texas. I have really big dreams. I studied neuroscience because I want to work on BCI. I want to save the world. I want to run for president. And I
Starting point is 02:00:49 want you old geezers to know that not all of us young people have dreams. Come on, man. I just turned 30. Watch it, bro. So how old are you, Malcolm? I just turned 30, actually, in June. Oh, okay. So I'm right in the middle of this room right now. I got two old folks and two younger folks. So here's my question, though. It seems like the right wing has stumbled upon a viable way to influence modern culture through boycott. Could we use this more directly against the federal government to create some real change? I could we boycott the federal government and threaten their lifeline in a sense and just let me contextualize this slightly is that something that's possible this this seems like the most effective form of protest from the right wing and would this just mean a mass movement not to pay taxes or some sort of unless we like get some sort of election reform and isn't
Starting point is 02:01:38 that kind of how we threw off british tyranny and if i open to any responses if uh everyone on the right collectively decided not to pay taxes that would be effectively a revolution so i i i don't i don't i don't know if we want actual revolution or do we want figurative revolution i think the way that the anti-establishment faction i hate saying left and right because it doesn't describe, I mean, like Jimmy Dore is not a right winger. But he will be, like he is on our side when it comes to opposing the machine. Even if we disagree on a lot of things.
Starting point is 02:02:13 But I think the way you channel that energy is through like local elections, lawsuits. Instead of just, I guess the challenge is it's easy to buy only what you need from good companies and not buy what you don't need from bad companies, but filing lawsuits are expensive. I think we have to, whatever that energy is that results
Starting point is 02:02:36 in a person knowing about Bud Light and not buying it has to be applied to local elections as well. And I think that's an effective path imagine if every republican imagine if matt gates was speaker of the house he's way to put it imagine if every republican was in line with someone with like matt gates and not with kevin mccarthy we need to elect those people and then you'll start to see some really dramatic change but if everybody in the anti establishment side just stopped paying taxes the federal government would basically just go out with guns and it would be yeah i'm not necessarily saying like stop everyone stop paying taxes but just this concept of boycott like it seems like the right wing has the ability to kind of withhold
Starting point is 02:03:20 funds and that seems to be one of the few ways we found any real political influence. And I was wondering just how maybe that concept could be applied to basically better pressure the federal government. I thought often about coordinating a day when everybody pulls their money out of the bank at the same moment. And that will destroy the whole country. Exactly. Which is why I'm telling you, I've thought about it for many years and have calculated is not a good idea. So it's a form of boycott. And again, I'm not saying to do that. I'm just saying this concept seems like something the right wing can use. The problem typically comes, again, if you love the country and you want to actually save it, the worst thing that you can do is go nuclear.
Starting point is 02:03:59 And that's a nuclear option right there and i say this to say because i was in space talking to uh matt gates and lauren bobert and when i asked him like this was when the debt ceiling negotiation what's going on i asked him i was like mad like why do we cave man why did we not get any concessions he said man like i don't know it was just like everybody was having the y2k panic and fear and it's just like it's time ticked on we became the bad guys they started to look at us kind of uh you know crazy because people were like you know the trains are going to stop running and all of this is going to happen and it's like if conservatives were to do that the problem is that the momentum then changes to the point where the federal government will eventually say okay fine well we're just not going to deliver these essential services i know that's laughable
Starting point is 02:04:40 essential services for the federal government but we're not going to deliver those. And then people are going to start looking at conservatives and that's going to turn the winds of change. So the only way that we can effectively win because we're not willing to torch everything is to essentially be reformers. Like you got to reform the system and that happens at the local level and eventually at the gubernatorial levels. Yeah. I did want to just add one thing on that the only instance i see this as being i don't want a revolution outright that would be terrible i know that but i'm trying for this idea of like the british revolution or the american revolution
Starting point is 02:05:14 we said no taxation without representation i almost feel a similar thing could be possible like because if we're in elections at the federal level that are not necessarily representative of our government we're necessarily representative of our government we're kind of of our people we're almost in the same situation so i'm not i'm not saying revolution anything like that i'm just curious about the this concept yeah i think the energy we have comes from like these boycotts are working because people know and are passionate we build a culture a culture around being passionate about these things and that that bleeds over into voting patterns and things like that so if you know people who are like i'm not going to drink bud light you should
Starting point is 02:05:48 add and you should also be voting for insert local politician who is a good person i think you'll be happy to hear that i uh decided to do my own personal chick-fil-a boycott when i heard that they had a di uh official and i was addicted to chick-fil-a got it every single day and i haven't had it now in like six weeks nice the last vestige we have bottles of chick-fil-A. I got it every single day and I haven't had it now in like six weeks. Nice. The last vestige, we have bottles of Chick-fil-A sauce and then once they're gone, we got the Polynesian and the regular Chick-fil-A sauce and when they're gone, they're gone.
Starting point is 02:06:14 We need Jeremy's sauce. Dude, I mean, come on. Both of them are just sugar syrup anyway. It's like if I'm going to show up. Yeah, they are. That's all it is. Well, alright, man. Thanks for calling are. Well, all right, man. Thanks for calling in. Cheers. Yeah. Good questions. That's a great call, my friend. Yeah. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Of course. Have a good one, man, and good luck. All right. Cut you off there. Sorry, brother. Baconator? Talk to the Baconator. I haven't had a Baconator in a long time. So like Wendy's? Yeah, Wendy's. Y'all are going to make me stop on the way home. Baconator, you're alive. You take me for take me i've been having some taco bell recently oh man but but i it doesn't make me sick at all no yeah i doubt it are you eating the flour tortillas i know and this is a
Starting point is 02:06:55 thing like i don't know what it is about taco bell but if i i talked about this if i eat bread i feel like shit i just whatever i don't know i fuck it i don't know i think it might be the brominated bullshit they put in it and the preservatives i don't think it's true yeah because there's some stuff that i eat like i eat taco bell yo i feel good i wake i like if i eat bread and and fried anything bread and fried anything i feel bloated sluggish and groggy yeah i went out at one in the morning to live mas with my girlfriend and we got i got a cheesy gordita crunch i got a grilled cheese burrito and a beefy cheesy burrito definitely stopping that was
Starting point is 02:07:38 2 000 taco bell calories to be fair i only ate half of the beefy cheesy because i was full i did not feel sick at all the next day i actually woke up feeling really good and i was like i i thought i was gonna wake up just fucking annihilate no yeah i felt great and i was like good i think it'll get to you though if you kept eating it it's got to be the hydrogenated oils or partially sodium benzoate yeah in the but dude do you do the sauce the sauce is pretty bad i think too i just a cheesy gordita crunch fire sauce i can't find a that alone it gives me like the the ingredients for guacamole they're hash browns the cheesy gordita crunch is basically a hard shell beef taco with their with their ranch whatever it is like southwestern ranch then they take a flour pita
Starting point is 02:08:26 kind of thing it's not even a tortilla it's like a like a pita and they put cheese in it and then put the thing in it like heat it up i used to eat so good dude baconator you're still with us how's your heart i can't hear you there tim stop talking about Taco Bell you're making me want to drive it out And I've just I've figured out like like the only thing worth getting is a cheesy gordita crunch I like just the hard taco. It's very simple and it's corn tortillas Those are a little easier to take it's all good the double-decker You're really you're real quiet. It can you speak in the back a little double-decker top. Oh, man. You're real quiet.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Can you speak in the mic a little more directly in the mic there? Oh, yeah. You should try the double-decker. Replace the soft shell with a chalupa shell. It's quite nice. Okay. Yeah. Are you a trucker?
Starting point is 02:09:16 Are you in a truck right now? Oh, a chalupa shell. No, I'm actually in a tent with 12 other people here in Iraq at the moment. Whoa! That's fucking badass, dude. What are you doing? So, well, I should be asleep. It's about other people here in Iraq at the moment. Whoa. Badass dude. What are you doing? So, uh,
Starting point is 02:09:26 well, I should be asleep. It's about five and five 23 in the morning, but wow. Sweet. Nice brother guys for the last three years over here. I've been back since 2017, but Michael Malice for speaker of the house before Matt Gates.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Yes. True. True. So this is a little bit more towards Ian, you know, cause you know, with all with AI becomes a threat that Elon, Ian, you know, because, you know, with all, you know, when AI becomes a threat that Elon Musk predicts, you know, because of graphene, you know, it's all graphene's fault. And we need AMP to kind of, you know, start over with a reset.
Starting point is 02:09:57 You know, do you think we could actually go back to life before the Internet if we couldn't have Internet at all anymore because of some kind of AI threat? Well, yeah, we could could it wouldn't be easy but once you have a generation that's born without it i think then you'll have a fully adapted generation i would do it would you guys do it i would i'd rather go back to a pre-internet world it was hard getting lost pre-internet i'd say maybe pre-smartphone i would just be pre-smartphone. I would just say pre-smartphone. Are we talking about with our current knowledge? Like if right now, cell phones. I agree with that. I would say no. Life before the internet was fucking drudgery.
Starting point is 02:10:33 It was boring. You had to go to a fucking library to find stuff out or you had to ask people if they knew the answer. To be fair, it was more classist. The elites controlled the machine. MapQuest directions and dial-up internet. All the all the best you wouldn't even have map quest we'd have to remake maps now because the gps systems would be all down that's that's what i say to smartphones smartphones is where i saw a lot of the it's where everyone saw the problem starting so when
Starting point is 02:10:57 everyone hacks the internet all the time non-stop every day so yeah dude that's nuts yeah i kind of look at the internet as the first step of the next species that we're evolving into like homo sapiens the past the people that think they need to fight and kill we're going to become like single cells in a multicellular organism totally you will be your job will be to carry oxygen from point a to point b and if you deviate you are executed imagine just imagine how much we've already adapted to this uh world you know like the uh waves that exist around us like the uh radio waves wi-fi waves and all that like our bodies have essentially adapted to to uh coexist with those frequencies as is and that affects
Starting point is 02:11:36 epigenetics you know that affects how uh you know dna is read and transcribed for sure we're getting to the point now where we have literally, you know, almost jumped the shark. Yeah, definitely. Anything else to add, brother? I don't want to cut you off while you're calling in from so far. Yeah. That was a good time. Appreciate the good vibes and a good show.
Starting point is 02:11:57 And Ian, keep rolling those 20s. All right, I'll do it right now. Thanks. Right on, man. Hey, thanks for calling in from Iraq. You said, right? Cheers from Iraq. right cheers from iraq yeah from a tent in iraq dude nice work stay safe brother yeah best wishes have a good evening all right uh last but not least we got tim from 2009 oh wow hey thanks for having me hey well in 2009 what was i doing i was uh skating in bucktown in chicago i think no wait wait wait wait no um i would have been fuck i don't remember where i was colorado maybe
Starting point is 02:12:32 i was definitely living in la at the madhouse in venice where were you tim of 2009 what's going on i was probably uh well this is actually i probably shouldn't say it but i was probably in kindergarten at that point, honestly. Wow. I guess I am a geezer. 2009. Yeah, the name's from an old account I made. We mentioned the game earlier, but I don't want to dox my own account.
Starting point is 02:12:58 I literally made it in 2009. I was like, oh, my name's Tim. It's 2009. Sounds good enough to me. Great. It's perfect. Oh, now I know what game you're talking about. Yes. Anyways, what's going on? How are you?
Starting point is 02:13:10 I'm doing good. Thanks for having me on. I just want a quick shout out. Thanks, Tim. Thanks, Ian. I like you guys. You guys really push people to think and push people to do stuff. But anyway, to my question.
Starting point is 02:13:21 So there's been a lot of talk about the legitimacy of the courts and the legitimacy of our government. It makes me think back historically to two things. So, for example, Andrew Jackson in Worcester versus Georgia, if I remember correctly, he basically told the Supreme Court to shove it. Everyone else told them to shove it, and they did the Indian Removal Act.
Starting point is 02:13:39 As well as thinking of the Revolutionary War, there's a huge debate, especially if you look at some of the more religious talk, about, hey, as Christians, should we revolt against King George? And basically the argument that came up was, well, he doesn't treat us as citizens. He treats us as subjects. So he's an illegitimate ruler. Yeah. And then it goes to my question. In regard to the judicial system being multi-tiered and seemingly being illegitimate, should we defy the courts? Is that a good option or are there better options? What do you guys think? The left openly does that.
Starting point is 02:14:13 They do. Look at California, sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, allowing non-citizens to vote. I'm surprised this lady in New Mexico is actually going to listen. I'd be surprised if she listened to this judge i think that like civil disobedience just so long as it's non-violent civil disobedience should be practiced at every opportunity i if you if you find that the the your government is somehow being oppressive or or is limiting your rights or infringing on your rights civil disobedience if you're not hurting anyone there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion at all there's to me though there's only a certain level that you can really disobey before faith in the institution breaks down
Starting point is 02:14:49 altogether and that's kind of the thing is that you don't want to push them because if it seems like you're disobeying all the rules and the other side as we have seen with the left is basically saying you know well it's inverse but it's like if they're disobeying all the rules and you're obeying the rules eventually you're going to stopying all the rules and you're obeying the rules, eventually you're going to stop obeying the rules. And then what happens to the system? It devolves. And then there's a power vacuum.
Starting point is 02:15:11 And next thing you know, you have to have some kind of conflict or something in order to resolve that. Because again, two sides with irreconcilable differences and no mediator. It, it always goes bad historically. Yeah. So there's a limit,
Starting point is 02:15:24 but it is, like I said, we have to, you got to keep the government honest. So there's a limit. But like I said, you've got to keep the government honest. Yeah, it's important. No, yeah, but it makes me think, so do we fight fire with fire here? It's a really thin line, but where exactly is that line? Like for a normal person like me, if I basically get screwed over by the government, how in the world do I even fight the government well it depends on how you're screwed over lawsuits uh you know legal challenges
Starting point is 02:15:53 are the are the basic way we do it but unfortunately the the the rule of reality that the left really understands is that power matters they don't care about truth so they'll exercise power in any way to get more of it we care about truth so we are limited in how we can exercise power and that's a disadvantage but if you're rich and you're famous you're not going to get in trouble with the courts you're slap slap on the wrist and other bullshit like that so that's that that's the challenge the left gains power wields it mercilessly we We just need to boycott, control, build culture, and build power, and then we must wield it effectively. That's why people complain about Republicans not wielding power when they get it,
Starting point is 02:16:32 because they don't. They need to. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you're conservative, congratulations. You decide to play the game on hard mode. So, unfortunately, yeah, you just got to figure out, we've got to figure out our win conditions and we
Starting point is 02:16:45 got to stick oh dude dude play any rpg with a karma system and it it teaches you the realities of life that you may not see so ian and i are playing balder's gate i beat it by the way doesn't it doesn't mean a whole lot having beat it it's it's i i don't i don't think so um but the issue is there there are a bunch of points in the game where it's easier to be evil and that's just reality yeah i love because not doing it i'm like no no i'm not like i'll give you i'll give you a generic example of a storyline like there's a good person who's trying to do a good thing the bad people are upset that good thing would cause them to lose money and power they They come and say, we're going to kill this person.
Starting point is 02:17:27 What are you supposed to do? Defend the good person. Say evil will not be permitted. Or you can take the evil route and say, I'll leave. You kill him. I don't give a shit. And then you watch the villains kill the good guy and they say, you did the right thing. And they leave.
Starting point is 02:17:39 And you didn't have to fight. You didn't waste any potions. It didn't cost you any money. You completed the mission. The good guy is dead. And now you carry have to fight. You didn't waste any potions. It didn't cost you any money. You completed the mission. The good guy is dead. And now you carry on the story. That's the path taken by most people or by a lot of people we've seen for a long time in this country. Or you can say you will not lay a hand on good person.
Starting point is 02:17:57 And now you enter combat. And there's like seven henchmen. And you're like, dude. And you end up beaten, battered with broken gear or whatever and you're like that was really hard but it was the it was the good path that's the challenge man being good is hard and being evil is easy sometimes they'll come to you and they'll be like we want to kill this guy and you can join be like yeah you're right let me help you kill this guy overt evil or you'll be like no stop i'm gonna fight you and protect this guy pure good or then there's this
Starting point is 02:18:22 like neutral path of i'm not gonna get involved yep but that's actually evil when you don't get involved with evil triumphing over good you're being evil look at the alignments true neutral like if you read like all of all the alignments like true neutral and chaotic neutral always evil and then law and then you know kind of uh what is it neutral good like it still is still know, you allow evil to happen. You just don't do it yourself. I think lawful evil is the worst. Yeah. Damn, it's hard to topple lawful evil. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:51 What is it? Lawful? What is it? True evil or? True. Well, there's chaotic evil, which are like psychopathic, unpredictable. Unlawful evil. They don't normally have good positions of power.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Lawful evil is the most dangerous. Lawful evil is like a president that's, yeah, wants a president yeah like literally the zealous the cult leaders lawful evil would be like the nazis because they're extremely organized extremely regimented and extremely evil that's that's what i mean i mean chaotic evil a crazy guy yeah with a knife going everyone can organize against that yeah and then unlawful evil they're acting outside of their system maybe they're organized to a certain degree but like a neutral evil yeah is that what well i think there's lawful neutral and chaotic oh okay so neutral neutral evil there's lawful evil lawful evil is usually got a lot of power associated with it exactly it's like a system
Starting point is 02:19:41 what is neutral evil neutral not do anything yeah stay out of the way active in any way um they'll rob you but they're not crazy and it's it's it's pragmatic yeah they'll they'll violate the law happily instead of use it yeah lawful evil is the worst for sure yeah i mean normally chaotic evil is the worst person to be around but lawful evil is the most dangerous aspect of society the villain is lawful evil and the monsters are chaotic evil. Yeah, like the lawful evil villain will have a pet guy that's like a crazy psycho chaotic evil follower like Renfield from Dracula.
Starting point is 02:20:12 Dracula's the lawful evil owner of the house. And the problem is most lawful evil people convince themselves that they're good or they think they're doing it for the greater good. It empowers them. And so, I mean, that's literally what you got to look at. Like, we're up against lawful evil.
Starting point is 02:20:29 They think they're doing good. And then what are the goods of good alignment? Same as lawful, neutral, and chaotic. Chaotic good? Chaotic good is like Robin Hood. They don't follow the law, but they do what's right, what they believe is right. And they usually fall on the side of what is right.
Starting point is 02:20:43 They're not warped. Yeah. But see, the problem with this is Robin Hood wasn't a good guy. Yeah, only in retrospect when we tell the story. And to be fair, the idea of stealing from the rich to give to the poor is not good. A person who is rich isn't necessarily a bad person. Like, a guy who worked really hard for 20 years and built a castle and now lives in a beautiful castle doesn't deserve to be stolen from one but robin hood stole from the governor
Starting point is 02:21:10 that's what i write the caveat i like the the robin hood was chaotic neutral uh conspiracy theory it's a pretty good one interesting to think of him as a neutral robin hood stole from the the government he would he would loot the the the tax collectors coffers and then go and give it back yeah give it to the people then chaotic good yeah yeah anyway John was like do you want us king of uh Tim of 2009 did you want to uh put us back on track or elaborate anything I think a lot of times it's just especially for people like me, we think about it's like, how do we build culture? How do we do this? How do we do that? It's like when you talked about the logistics of running your show, we have most normal people have no concept of,
Starting point is 02:21:53 oh, I got to lodge these people. I got to move people. I got to do this, got to do that. And so then sometimes, you know, it's hard because we don't know what questions to ask a lot of times. And so that's why I think it's really important because everyone I've talked to, just normal people, they say we need to burn down the system. But then my question is, well, what are we going to replace it with if we burn it down? Yeah, always watch those folks.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Yeah. Yeah, and then there's a time period between the rubble and then the new construction beginning of hell on earth that you don't want to be a part of. Right. That's why we don't burn it down. Yeah. I hope that's everything,
Starting point is 02:22:28 Tim. Yeah. Was that, yeah, that good. Well, thanks for calling. I just wanted to shout out real quick.
Starting point is 02:22:33 The after show that we have in the discord, hopefully Malcolm flex will be there. I just, just want to drop that there. It'd be cool. If you were in the after show, we'll have it on the staging slash events channel. Just want to shout it out.
Starting point is 02:22:43 All the discord staff and everyone that makes it work. It great so yeah thanks for having me yeah of course let's do the same thing actually and shout out brett mack uh who does all of like the organization for all the callers uh andrew web dev michael leo tos zero priz tantalus makey tech i am olivia claire joey cannoli brian lynch mob Yasha, grateful Patrick of Ohio imprint, Sammy football and Knofsky. And that's all the people that, Oh, and also Diz.
Starting point is 02:23:09 There's other people that Raymond gave me to shout out. Thanks guys for all the work you guys do. You make this possible. I really appreciate it. Cheers. Cheers. Thanks for calling in. Well,
Starting point is 02:23:19 that was actually, you know, there's always an open window. I think, I think when we're, when we're uncensored things are a bit better which is why we actually do two hours of the youtube and one hour of the of the uncensored yeah so like because the uncensored show is much more chill and straightforward
Starting point is 02:23:33 but but the general idea for the main show on youtube is we're actually producing segments like the structure of the show's creation was to record segments in real time and then break them up so that's how the that's why the show is what it is and culture war is why the reason we launched that is so it can be more concept heavy and free-flowing and then the after show is where we can just be like fuck everything and just like say whatever we feel like saying so you know days like this they end up working out pretty well and and it's kind of like a a pressure release valve where we get more time to just like let's fucking go so uh you know
Starting point is 02:24:06 malcolm thanks for hanging out it's been a blast and and what we're going to do is we're going to take the the youtube portion of this we're going to smash it together we're going to upload it to all the podcast platforms so it'll be everywhere and we'll get it up on rumble and uh for all of you who are members aside from helping us by making by as being members you make all of it possible everything you guys are doing in the Discord is the coolest shit ever. And it's exactly what I was hoping would happen. You are doing exactly what you need to do
Starting point is 02:24:32 to help win a culture war by building culture, becoming friends and working on stuff. And I look forward to inviting all of you guys out to our social club and special events when we get it finally set up in Martinsburg. It's going to be fucking awesome. Thanks for hanging out guys. And we'll see you all tomorrow.

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