Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #861 Hunter Biden INDICTED, Democrats Say Biden May DROP OUT Of 2024 Race w/Katy Faust
Episode Date: September 15, 2023Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Katy Faust to discuss Hunter Biden being indicted on federal gun charges, Kevin McCarthy slamming a reporter for not understanding the Biden impeachment, CNN roas...ting Joe Biden for lying about his life, and Nancy Pelosi saying she hopes Joe Biden runs in 2024 signaling a chance he might drop out of the presidential race. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hunter Biden has been indicted federally. Wow. It's not the first time, I guess.
There's that other plea agreement that he's currently working on, but more charges related to guns.
And interesting, to say the least, considering the investigations, the impeachment inquiry into his dad,
and what this will end up meaning for the 2024 election.
Because all this stuff happening to Hunter does leak out into the Biden family and the Biden administration,
and it is all connected.
There's a tweet from Michael Tracy saying, you know what, are they really going to impeach Joe Biden for what he did a decade ago?
And Rep Gosar said, no, what we are seeing with Ukraine and with the war is the ongoing bribery or is connected to it.
So this is this is pretty interesting. We got other really big news.
Kevin McCarthy rips a reporter to shreds and it's masterfully done.
And I'm not even the biggest fan of Kevin McCarthy, but the reporter is implying there's
no evidence. And he just outright starts listing things. He's like, Joe Biden did this, didn't he?
He did, right? Okay. He did this, right? Okay. He did this, right? Okay. He did it.
Now, all of these things are facts, yet the media keeps saying no evidence. So we'll talk about that
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tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Katie Faust. Thanks for having me. Good to be
here. Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do? My name's Katie Faust. I run a children's rights
nonprofit called Them Before Us, which looks at every marriage and family and reproductive issue
from the perspective of the best interest of the child. And I have a book coming out in two weeks called Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City,
because my husband and I have four kids, largely teenagers, one college age kid, and we
largely raised them in public schools in Seattle, and they are awesome.
In Seattle.
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but I think later on in the show,
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We've got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out.
Hey, I'm Hannah Clare.
I'm a writer for timcast.com.
I'm really excited for this conversation.
And it's good to be here.
Ian's here too.
I am.
And I agree with both you guys.
I think the nexus of a nation's political health is the nexus of the family health.
It's kids.
It is, man.
And it's the way kids interact with their parents.
It's just the beginning of everything.
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Let's just get into it.
All right.
Here's the news from TimCast.com.
Hunter Biden indicted on three federal gun charges.
A judge denied a plea deal previously offered to Biden by U.S. attorney for Delaware, David Weiss.
And the story being by Hannah Clare.
I'll just ask Hannah Clare what's going on.
So Hunter Biden has had a long and lengthy legal path.
So these charges are one count of a false statement
in purchasing a firearm,
one count of making a false statement
relating to information required
to have a federal firearm license,
and one count of possessing a firearm
by a person who is using or addicted
to drugs.
Oh, wow.
They got him on drugs?
Yes.
So the thing is, Hunter Biden is open about the fact that he is addicted to drugs, right?
And we'll all remember-
Was, was.
I think the alcoholics say it's forever, but maybe not for Hunter Biden.
Yeah, good point.
So he has had tax charges levied against him. And you'll remember that about 12 weeks ago, he pled guilty to tax charges. He was going to not go to jail and the gun charges and a judge about six weeks after that threw out this sweetheart deal that was offered to him by the attorney general in Delaware. And we all remember this. It was a reminder that we have
a two-tier justice system in America,
which let Hunter Biden get away with a sweet deal
and potentially have immunity on all kinds of stuff.
And that was thrown out.
And I think that that's a credit to everyone
who spoke loudly about how they didn't like it.
I think, what was it,
like two whistleblowers came out and said,
yeah, Hunter Biden's doing this,
but they're not going to go after him
because it's the Biden family.
Right.
And so there was a lot of outcry online.
There was also the House Republicans launched an inquiry into this deal to see how the Merrick
Garland, who appointed Weiss and just generally, how did they sign off on this plea deal?
You see, I just want to point out, you know, when Timcast.com does a headline, it just
says something like what Hunter Biden indicted on three gun charges.
I like,
you know, we try to just be
basic and just give you the information.
You want to flash your headline? I'll look at the Daily Mail
wrote, Hunter Biden indicted on three felony
charges for lying about being on
drugs when he bought a gun. But that's, is that
accurate? Because not all three of those charges
are for me. Exactly, exactly. But
that's a heck of a headline
yeah i mean and and you know if you said hunter biden indicted on felony charge for a lot for
charge singular for lying about being on drugs when he bought a gun that's a pretty good headline
that that that hits yeah and if you're trying to get people to understand the severity of what it
was hunter biden is doing in the worst of it.
This is it right here. I do, however, think, I think this might actually be a distraction.
When we had Brianna Wu in the culture war, and I brought up Joe Biden flying to Ukraine
to get a prosecutor fired at the behest of his son, Brianna kept saying, okay, so if Hunter
Biden did something wrong, he should go to jail.
I'm like, no, no, no, not Hunter Biden, Joe.
Right, if Hunter Biden did something wrong,
I'm like, no, no, stop.
I am not talking about Hunter Biden.
This story right here, it's flashy.
A lot of people want to hear about it.
Ooh, what did Joe Biden's kid do?
Yeah, but he bought a gun while he was on drugs.
First of all, I have questions about the Second Amendment
and whether or not,
if you're actively on drugs
and you're actively on drugs and
you're like out of your mind, yeah. Okay. You can't have that. That makes sense. You can't
keep, you can't have a gun and you're like waving it around or something, but I'm like, if it's in
your car and you're on drugs, is that a big deal? You're not going to be driving, right? It's about
wielding and, and in being in control of the object. But also I'm not so convinced that just
because you're a drug user, you shouldn't be allowed to have a gun that I don't, I don't,
you know, through due process, perhaps.
But but that's that's a whole other argument.
Ultimately, my point here is the question we should be asking is about Hunter Biden calling D.C.
saying we're being investigated by this Ukrainian prosecutor, Joe Biden, then flying out.
And what relation these things have to each other and how they came together.
This may be intentional.
I would not be surprised if Joe was like, look, we know that the White House sent that letter to all those media outlets saying scrutinize the impeachment.
Don't let them do this.
I wouldn't be surprised if Joe was like, hey, indict Hunter on some nonpolitical thing so
we can push the news cycle away from the things I was doing with Burisma and all that stuff.
I think you're totally right.
I think letting him fall for some things gets the headlines to be, oh, no, he is facing
justice.
And the average American who is not as well versed in the complicated goings on of the
Biden family really aren't that complicated.
They lie.
Personal gain in they lied about their foreign business interests will say, oh, well, Hunter
is facing charges.
He is he is having to own
up for things. This is okay. And it's a way of sort of circumventing actually facing the reality
that if Hunter's guilty, Joe is definitely guilty. Yeah, I get the feeling that people are turning on
these guys now, this Biden crap. And like, we'll pull it up. I think at some point in the show,
there's a video of someone on CNN just just rattling off lies that biden's told
including that he went to ground zero the day after it happened cnn's admitting it yeah wow
and i i think the hunter biden or the biden family couldn't keep hunter in the background
for long enough they tried so hard like i don't remember if you remember the democratic national
uh convention when he was running for president they brought out every single granddaughter they
did not bring out his grandson and they did not bring out Hunter.
They are trying to pretend like there are no males in this family because being a Biden
male, I guess, except for Beau, is not a good look.
Well, you get bank, though, right?
Aren't you making bank?
I mean, his brothers, his kid.
Yeah, and they love the divorce and the unstable family.
It's just great.
I just want to say politico wrote this long
magazine story about the influence peddling of the bidens in 2019 called biden inc and today
four years later the media says there's no evidence and i'm just like do you read the news
apparently they don't read yourselves they don't no it's very easy for someone to say
that something that they don't see doesn't exist i just i just found out his name's not hunter
biden what is his name robert robert hunter biden right yeah and his son is something similar i'm
looking at they posted a picture of the gun form and his name is robert yeah he's bobby biden why
are we calling him hunter bobby it is bobby biden it's not crazy that
people go by their middle names maybe that's a controversy but our hunter biden you gotta put
the initial first he's named after one of biden's brothers right there's another robert biden okay
i think i could be wrong it hit me last night and i i knew i knew this but that hunter had started
sleeping with his dead brother's wife while he was still married yes he started cheating on his
wife with his brothers yes and i think she so the story behind him having this gun there's this uh cult i don't
know what guns are called cobra and he apparently bought the gun and his girlfriend at the time
bo biden's widow uh apparently threw it in the trash can in the story to like buy it away from
next to a school yeah was she cracking out with them were they both crack like drug i don't know
but i really feel bad for all these cousins whose granddad is joe biden the
sniffer and then this is their parents said this does not seem good i mean as the parenting expert
in this room do you advise i do not advise no no no none of this none of them making sex tastes
with your husband and when you're an elected congressman i mean none of this none of this
well actually so i have a question for someone who is a parenting expert uh i don't
i think i said it before i think i think hunter biden got molested ah i don't know it's a it's
a pretty heavy subject but when you look at what joe biden's doing on camera to these kids
that it's that and that hunter biden has reportedly referred to his dad as pedo pete
then you look at the substance abuse and the behavioral issues i'm, that seems indicative of someone who was abused as a kid.
I don't know.
But I will tell you this.
If your kid gets involved in drugs, all bets are off.
All bets are off.
I mean, I've seen so many good parents who, better parents than me, right, who have lost
their kids because, you know, one toke, one smoke.
So you're saying that Joe's actually a good dad.
No, I am not.
I am saying that if you've got a drug addict,
I just know a lot of parents out there
that feel really guilty
because their kids have substance abuse issues.
And that's the problem with substance
is it controls you, you know,
and there's not a lot you can do
to get your kid out of it.
So I don't know about the molestation issue.
It's interesting though,
because Hunter has
a substance abuse issue
and so does his sister.
Ashley Biden has been in rehab
a couple of different times.
And so there is obviously
something going on.
I know people say
like addictive personalities
can run in family,
but sometimes addiction
is a response to trauma.
Now, what is that trauma?
Oh, that's 100% true.
100%.
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Is the old man sniffing?
Is he just too close?
Is that last generation with the, oh, honey, come on here? I don't know. I don't know what it is um is the old man sniffing is he just too close is that last generation with oh honey come on here i don't know i don't know what it is or is there something
going on he's got like anger rage under the surface that but joe biden also that is 100
true like you can see him anytime you get you something gets in the way and you know there's
the eruption yeah i'm looking at like a reporter questioning him right now about uh flying out to
ukraine and and biden being like I know one warned me about that.
She's like, they warned your staff.
He's like, nobody warned me that what I was doing was wrong.
And I guess that dementia, too, though.
I mean, like, I guess I guess he's been kind of like flying off the handle ever since he was elected in 1920 or whenever.
I don't know.
1840.
Right, right, right.
But also like that is why aren't people looking at that and saying
mental decline dementia that is what happens when you get slip into those those kind of it could be
fair i think some people are saying that just not the people in his immediate care you know what i'm
saying i don't want to assume that he beat hunter up or like squeezed him too hard or pinched him
or any of that but i can definitely visualize it like grabbing and be like you can't like
really when he's like nine years old
and 14 and stuff.
Hunter calls him pedo Pete.
Yeah, really?
I wonder what Joe Biden could have done
to make his son call him that.
That was his,
one of his aliases was Pete,
Peter something?
Yeah, Peter,
what was it?
I can find it.
Robert Peter something?
Pedo Pete.
Dude,
you call your dad a pedo?
That's some big problems going on his
sister's diary right and she said the thing about showering like it was all kind of weird stuff and
i don't want to make these accusations lightly because obviously child abuse is such a serious
topic on the other hand i have maintained for a long time that there is something deeply troubled
in the biden family and i think we just get more and more evidence of this all the time
i wonder what it must have been like for like, you know, Don Jr.
You know, growing up with Trump as your dad.
He talks about it pretty positively.
I mean, I've had a chance to hear him speak privately about it.
And also, you know, with his mom and their heritage, I think they're Czechoslovakian.
Also, despite the fact that Trump has been married three times, all of his children seem to be close.
I mean, they all attended Tiffany's wedding.
You know, they seem to have positive relationships with each other and with, you know, Melania,
different step parents.
The Biden family seems openly much more strained.
And I don't think it's a good look that you left your wife for your brother's widow.
I can only say this.
Peter Henderson was the only.
If only he left her.
He actually just started cheating on her.
Wasn't it Robert L. Peters?
I'll look for another one. Right now I have the pseudonym Peter Henderson was the only, if only he left her, he actually just started cheating on her. Wasn't it Robert L. Peters? I'll look for another one.
Right now I have a pseudonym,
Peter Henderson.
I've met Don,
Don Jr.
A couple of times.
He's been on the show.
We've talked to him on the show on the phone.
We've had him here physically.
I've met him at events.
He just comes off like a regular guy.
Well,
Don,
there's nothing like there,
there is,
there,
there is no,
he comes off more like a regular guy than people who have become successful and gotten
famous that I know.
He comes off like a regular guy more than some regular people actually know.
When you look at the Hunter Biden stuff, this is like lifestyles of the rich and the drug
addicted.
The rich and the congressman.
Because Joe is probably only at home three days a month.
He's in Congress for 50 years or something. He home three days a month grow for he's in congress
for 50 years or something so that would have been 28 days a month in in washington he said he was
sorry i was gonna he was famous for saying no i take the train home to delaware every night which
means that's worse if you were a congressman who does have access to your children regularly and
your children don't feel like you're getting the support that they end up in these complicated
emotional states if he's coming back on the train he's getting back at nine at nine p.m at night
true so that would have been my guess like if there was something askew if we don't if we if
we don't have our finger to put on oh it's absolutely abuse or whatever it probably just
is an absolute father hunger right that they did not get the connection that they were made for
from their dad because he was off i think you, whatever. And it sounds like Trump in some way,
even though he had these marital breakdowns,
he was able to, by all accounts,
stay connected to his kids
and meet that need for male love
that his kids craved from him
and that all kids crave from their dad.
Yeah.
I think when you look at the problems of Hunter Biden
and you look at the stats on kids who grew up without dads,
there's like a correlation there. Oh, honey, we're going all the way on that who grow up without dads there's like a correlation there oh honey we're
going all the way on that tomorrow yeah yeah so culture war katie will be here for culture
war in the morning to talk family stuff more in depth but uh you know i'm like drug abuse this
this is like no strong father figure or abusive father who like an abusive father is also not a
strong father figure and it plays into it and seeing multiple siblings going through the drug abuse and that's it's interesting right i mean
it's not i wouldn't call it a coincidence at face value and usually there's some thread to tug on
some need was not met there was a need that was not met and really they lost their mom and their
sister was that it yeah his wife and his like that's freaking that'll rip a family apart if
you're not able to communicate about it he got sworn into congress from the two boys hospital room geez
i mean there was a reason that his story i think caught the attention of the nation i think he did
build a political career off that but did he build it at the at the expense of his children's emotional
well-being yeah i don't know right did they lose their mom and their dad? Oh, man. That's what happened to my parents.
My mom's mother and father lost one of their kids.
My mom's sister, when she was 10, got hit by a drunk driver and killed.
And they just receded into alcoholism, the parents.
And they were basically left to fend for themselves growing up.
Their oldest sister kind of raised the kids.
So that can absolutely happen.
You lose one.
Yeah.
Well, let's talk about that father of his, Joe Biden.
We got the story from the Post Millennial Speaker McCarthy demolishes AP reporter over
false report that House has, quote, no evidence for Biden impeachment inquiry.
This video is absolutely amazing.
Let's maybe I can pull it up on Twitter, make a little bigger, bigger here.
Let's let's play this clip.
It's a minute and a half long.
And it's Kevin McCarthy talking to an AP ap reporter i believe it's an ap reporter what impeachment inquiry is to do is to
get answers to questions are you concerned about all the stuff that was just recently learned
do you have any concern have you asked the white house any questions yes okay do you agree that
do you believe the president lied to the american public when he said he'd never talk to his son about business dealings?
Yes or no? It's all right.
I can't answer that.
You can't answer that?
Do you believe when they said the president went on conference calls, do you believe that happened?
That's what the testimony says. Do you believe the president went to Cafe Milano and had
dinner with the clients of Hunter Biden, who believes he got those clients because he was
selling the brand? That's not the testimony. Okay. Do you believe Hunter Biden, when you sell the
video of him driving a Porsche, that he got $143,000 to buy that Porsche the next day?
Do you believe the $3 million from the Russian oligarch that
was transferred to the Shell companies that the Bidens controlled after the dinner from
Cafe Milano took place?
So the testimony.
Okay, then I go back. Do you think the president lied that he...
But is that an impeachable? Is lying an impeachable?
Well, you want to know... I'm not saying impeachment. All I'm saying is I would like to know the
answer to these questions. The American public ought to know.
And that's what impeachment inquiry provides.
So the first thing I'll say is don't calm down, everybody.
News organizations do hire developmentally disabled individuals to report the news.
And I know it may sound funny, but it's true.
This woman doesn't even know what she's reporting on.
Slow down there. Stop laughing.
I am being serious. She is not reporting on an impeachment. Kevin McCarthy did not say we are
hereby impeaching Joe Biden. He said we're going to launch an inquiry, which is we will begin to
bring together information to ask ourselves the question should we impeach
so when he points out all of this evidence and there's so much more and she agrees it all exists
yes yes said that yes said that but that's not impeachable kevin mccarthy's like i'm not saying
impeachment she doesn't even know what she's reporting on. Welcome to the modern
American press. It's sad because it feels like there are so many intelligent people and even
average people who just actually watch the videos and look for the evidence to understand it better
who are trapped living in a world where you've got a news media comprised of people who don't
even know what the story is they're covering and their friends and their
followers who go and vote well so that's what i see when i look at that and i'm like oh there's
the two americas there's the two americas we're like i hear everything that he's asking i'm like
oh yeah i heard about that i heard about that oh i know about that but you talk to my friends who
are on the left and they're like what are you even talking about like joe biden has never what
i don't know what you mean hunter never did that. Hunter doesn't do that.
Did Hunter even own a gun? I mean, like we are getting, no, like we are getting two different
sets of two different history, two different language, you know, two different lexicons,
two different reports. I mean, like we have no way to even communicate because all of us on the right
know all of these things and nobody on the left knows any of these things probably because uh reporters are like no i'd like to uh give an analogy it is you see your friends on the
left people we know many you see one day they woke up and they were on this uh uh on this ship where
a giant monster with a squid face put a tadpole in their eye and then uh the elder brain took over
their minds i'm making a
balder's gate reference to everybody who has no idea what i'm talking about i thought you were
doing like the biblical like speck in your eye log in your brothers whatever go ahead basically
tadpole yeah the uh the opening story to balder's gate this is not a spoiler it's literally the
start of the game is uh the mind flayer it's a mind that controls you and it infects your brain
to mind control you and so these people are quite literally figuratively trapped in this world where they have this machine this broadcast tower
telling them what is or is not true and these people cannot they they do not have the willpower
to ask themselves a shout out to brandon strzok who he's the he's the founder of walk away he
tells this story and there are many people have had a similar story of how he broke the mind control.
He says that, you know, he saw Donald Trump do the thing with his arm where he's making fun of the disabled reporter.
Someone told him, actually, Trump wasn't making fun of a disabled reporter.
And he's like, what are you talking about?
I watched the video.
I'll prove you wrong.
And when Brandon finally decided to start investigating, it turns out Trump mocks everyone
in the same way.
And the actual evidence, the video that was made to debunk that claim is on numerous occasions,
Trump would insult someone by going, oh, look at me.
I'm so dumb.
One time, one of the reporters had a disabled arm and they twisted the story to make it seem
like trump was intentionally mocking his disability instead of it just being something dumb trump does
brandon said he had like this this harsh moment where he actually felt pain confusion like wait
this can't be true this can't be real what am i seeing imagine just one day you wake up and
everything you believe is wrong dude it hurts it does it's
suicidally painful like i almost killed myself when i found out about the liberal economic order
fiat currency the the military industrial company 2006 when i got this washed over me and like this
one thing to learn about all this stuff when you have no knowledge and this is just how you're
learning reality it's another thing to have to unlearn 20 years of data what did it for you like
what shook you out i mean what what what was it that you had to-
Learning about the way that banks can issue infinite amounts of money or near infinite
amounts of money with fiat.
What does fiat mean?
It means faith.
We have, it's not even backed by gold.
Like I was told, I thought our money was actually had value.
It doesn't have no value.
What triggered you to like look deeper?
The war in Iraq, 2006, George Bush, when I found out there were no weapons of mass destruction,
I'm like, what?
Okay.
Now let's go a little deeper.
9-11, I saw the buildings fall on free fall.
I'm like, well, they told me that planes knocked them down.
Why are they falling without support?
The entire buildings.
It was like thing after thing after thing.
And then I'm like, why are we in two wars in the Middle East all of a sudden when only one of them is involved with our attack?
All of it was very strange. I got more.
There are three great examples from the 2006 area-ish that I think were shocking to a lot of people.
The first was Loose Change.
You ever see Loose Change?
No, give it to me.
So it was a viral documentary, Loose Change 9-11, second edition.
It was second one that went super viral.
And it essentially insinuates a conspiracy or cover-up around what really happened on 9-11.
I am not saying that the documentary is true.
They've actually issued a bunch of corrections.
There's a lot of speculation.
I'm not issuing an opinion on that.
But for a lot of people to watch something like that, it changed their perspective on what the news was telling them.
And this resulted in, you know, me for instance i'm sitting i'm
working at o'hare airport and they play this this video for like you know we're watching it sounds
like you got to watch this and i'm like what was it gonna like some guy brings in the break room
and i'm skeptical on everything but it did make me think like was this really in the news like
these things they're referencing because that's not what i heard and then i wanted to read more
and more about it to be fair though I had been online most of my life.
So, you know, I'd been well connected to,
I've always been reading things,
but for the people around me,
that was like all of a sudden
they were getting a different set of information.
The next was Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Moving Forward.
These were two big documentaries at the time
around this period.
And I think it was Moving Forward,
which explained fiat currency
and fractional reserve banking.
This went viral as well, explaining to people how your money is nothing, how they can just mass produce it, tricking you into working really, really hard for no reason.
And then you realize you are living in a house of cards.
That documentary comes out and then just give it a minute.
The 2008 crash happens.
A lot of people got smacked in the face and this shattered trust.
I'm not saying these documentaries are true and correct. I not saying that 9-11 the loose change video is true and
correct i am saying for a lot of people it shatters their worldview yeah they might not have all true
data in all those movies but it was enough to get me inspired to start researching that stuff
well you know if if those two documentaries did that for a handful of people, because I never heard of that.
COVID did that to scores of people, right? Because, you know, it's a little hard to quantify all the stuff going on with, you know, currency manipulation or fabrication or whatever's going on.
You know, I hear about the 9-11 conspiracy.
I don't know about that.
But you tell me that I need to wear a mask from the entrance of the restaurant all the way until I sit down and then I can take my mask off and now I'm okay.
And that is enough.
That is so close and so tangible for enough people to go.
All right.
Hold on there a minute.
F you.
Have you seen the meme where it's a guy standing up and COVID is coming at his face?
And then he's standing down and it goes over his head.
They put up those plastic barriers between tables.
So you're fine.
Right, right, right.
I went to
a restaurant that it was a so you know in frederick the buildings are very small they're old buildings
and the restaurant was very very small and i walk in the front door and i'm standing five feet from
the seat and they're like you got to put a mask on and i was like i'll just sit down and they're
like you got to put a mask on first and i'm like i'm gonna literally say if i sit down i don't got
to wear the mask right like they kicked me they kicked me out. Oh, no.
Or I should say, they insisted I wear it.
I refused and left.
I'm just saying, like, if those two documentaries, like, deconstructed your institutional trust,
COVID, oh, my gosh, with so many people.
Like, now, even, like, all the moms in my world, they're like, I will never trust my
doctor again.
And you are in Seattle.
I mean, that's significant.
This is what happened to me. I went through this phase of, I will never trust anyone. I. And you are in Seattle. I mean, that's significant. This is what happened to me.
I went through this phase of,
I will never trust anyone.
I do not trust anyone.
And this is like,
I'm still reeling from that 15 years ago.
But like a lot of people,
I imagine are going through that right now
with what just happened with COVID.
Well, like with institutions,
but who do you trust?
You have personal relationships you trust.
Kind of.
I mean, it wrecked me.
I thought I was the good guy growing up i'm part of the
empire i feel like one of the stormtroopers and i'm trying to like fix the system but the death
star is still heading towards alderaan i don't know what to do but it's not so simple right so
let's also use a different pop culture reference because it's harry it's always harry potter or
star wars we use game of thrones game of thrones was really good until the last season mind you
but they had that uh that arc where, what's her name?
Daenerys?
Daenerys, I think.
Daenerys Targaryen.
I've never seen it, so I don't know why we're looking at it.
She takes over that city where they've enslaved people,
and then she strings up and kills all the slavers, or all the elites.
And then one guy comes in, and he's like,
my dad was elite but was using his resources to save the slaves
and stop all this
and you killed him and like that's the nuance of it you can be in in the empire fighting for good
and being principled and like no one is perfect in every single way but you don't have to feel
like a stormtrooper on the death star you know yeah you're you're you know it's the woke that
will offer you redemption we will redemption it's
possible yeah but the the lack of trust that i have now in my personal life and more in political
life is really what i'm talking about yeah sure i imagine people are going through that so like i
almost killed myself legitimately in 2010 but like i didn't because i had good family the people that
that are struggling right now how do we help them come to terms with the cognitive dissonance of
like accepting that some of like because i i'm genuinely asking well well hold on there i'm gonna pull up this here video
clip you gave to me earlier ian this is from colin rug on twitter and it's actually quite
amazing he says cnn is now listing out all of president joe biden's lies as the new york post
and washington post are also ramping up their criticism of biden weird how they all changed
their tune at the same time here are the lies cnn now let's talk about witnessing a bridge collapse grandfather
died days prior to his birth amtrak conductor conversations being in new york the day after
9 11 being arrested in a civil rights protest driving an 18 wheeler visiting pittsburgh the
pittsburgh synagogue where people were killed let me just play the clip for you from cnn
there we go i don't know if it's similar things, but he's sort of told some stories that don't line up.
Don't line up. The president has a pattern at this point of either inventing or embellishing
stories. Oh, come on. It's breaking news from CNN. They're figuring it out.
In one speech last month alone, he claimed he had witnessed a bridge collapse in Pittsburgh
when he actually showed up about six hours later his grandfather had died just days
before he was born himself at the same hospital in fact his grandpa died more
than a year before in a different state not not the same hospital and and he
also repeated a favorite false story that I and others have debunked over and
over again about a supposed conversation with an Amtrak train conductor he was
friends with who was actually deceased at the time the conversation would have had to take place.
And that's not all. There are some more serious ones, in my view.
Previously in his presidency, he claimed at one point he'd been arrested during a civil rights protest
when, in other versions of the story, he just said an officer had taken him home from a protest.
He said he had visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where worshippers were killed in a 2018 mass shooting. In fact, he'd actually spoken to the rabbi, but never went.
And he's made a whole bunch of others, too. He said at one point, Republicans like to bring this
up. He said that he used to drive a tractor trailer, used to drive an 18-wheeler. Never
happened. The White House later clarified he used to drive a school bus at one point as a job,
briefly.
School bus, of course, not an 18 wheeler.
So whatever his intentions, whether it's, you know, foggy memory about stuff that's going on decades ago or foggy memory is an unfortunate pattern.
I love I love this.
I love that Colin Ruggs said weird how they all changed their tune at the same time.
OK, it's weird.
Old conspiracy theorists.
The media is working together to protect the democrats and
joe biden new conspiracy theory they're all coming after joe biden at the same time because
they're trying to get him out of office i don't hate it though as a theory i mean i think part
of it is still make it it lines up it's the same thing because they would do whatever they could
to protect him and apparently he is the out guy now i mean it is a sign that the establishment that joe biden relies on to continue to control the democratic party and to
stay in the white house no longer wants him which i think we've known for a long time that's why he
would say yes i'm gonna run again and the dnc and his own press secretary would be like oh they're
still mulling it over they're still thinking about it i mean they were they have been out of sync for
a long time and i think it's because joe b is declining. And I think that they know they can't actually get a second term.
And Kamala Harris is unpopular. I mean, the thing is, Joe Biden has given us some of the best lies,
the bold faced lies from this man. There was one today where he said he used to teach at
University of Pennsylvania. Do you think we haven't been paying attention to your entire
career? When do you think you did that? Where does that come from? Because I've heard him say
that before
that he taught at Pennsylvania.
Somewhere in the deep recess
of his brain.
Was he like an assistant,
adjunct, something?
No, no, no.
Dude, look.
40 years ago,
this was normal in politics
and he would never
get called out for it.
He stole that speech
from the Irish guy
or whatever,
that Irish politician,
I think it was.
His MP, yeah.
Yeah, and it was in the 80s
and he's like,
you know, he had to basically drop out of the race yeah well they
caught him for that yeah yeah but it's he never got caught with anything else well so i feel bad
like i look at him and i'm like oh my gosh i feel so bad because well he has been lying and he's
never been corrected and so in his mind everything that he said is true i mean like he doesn't think
that he's lying and that is the power of like you know this like literally living in one of the most
ironclad bubbles anybody could be in because not only i'm sure is this family reinforcing it but
all of the biggest mechanisms of communication are validating what he says or at least not
challenging him so why would you ever doubt yourself yeah i asked this the other day he did
something it's possible to remember because he does so much stuff but i had said uh does he
is this dementia or is he lying?
And it actually could be both.
Right, right.
Maybe he is so used to lying that now that he's slipping mentally, his lies are getting bolder and less.
He doesn't have to hide them.
He doesn't have to blend them in with the facts.
They're becoming less cohesive and coherent.
Well, consequences change your behavior.
And there's been no consequences.
Also, he's 80.
He's thinking. And you Also, he's 80. He's thinking.
Yeah.
And he's, you know what he's doing?
After he leaves the press conference, someone who works for him is like, Mr. Biden, you
just told all those people you were a teacher at Penn State.
It was a Penn State.
University of Pennsylvania.
University of Pennsylvania.
And he goes, dumb pricks.
And then he gets in the car.
He's like, make it true.
I'll see you later.
He'll be like, no, I didn't.
And then they're like, geez, he'll fire me if I talk back to him no no it's it's it's uh me i think the movie was little miss sunshine
could be wrong where the grandfather is doing heroin and he's like i'm an old man i don't care
anymore it's like that's where joe biden might be at he's like he probably gets in the car and
they're just like well here's a bunch of bad stuff you did and he's like so what he's like i'm past
the average life expectancy he's like this isn't my He's like, I'm past the average life expectancy.
He's like, this isn't my problem.
This is y'all's problem.
Yeah, no, exactly.
I'll see you later.
I mean, and that is kind of it.
I can't imagine being his staff right now and having to be like,
oh, well, what he meant by I drove a truck
was actually that he drove a school bus.
And we all mix up the word for truck.
Or when he was at,
I can't remember what the event was,
but he was speaking publicly
and there was that congresswoman who had just died in a car accident. And he was at, I can't remember what the event was, but he was speaking publicly and there was that congresswoman
who had just died in a car accident
and he was asking for her
and they're like,
oh, she was just on his mind.
It's not that he didn't realize
or completely forgot
that she's not alive anymore.
He was just thinking about her.
Like they will spin anything they can
to make this work.
But at a certain point,
there are too many loose threads
for them to weave a blanket out of.
Yeah, if his son wasn't deviant,
I think they would lie until he left office.
But because his son is just so viciously erratic,
you can't hide it.
Yeah.
I'm convinced,
my favorite personal conspiracy theory is that,
so Hunter Biden is married again.
He's married to a South African film director
and they met and got married within 10 days, which I love romance too, but that seems weird. Hunter Biden is married again. He's married to a South African film director.
And they met and got married within 10 days, which I love romance too, but that seems weird.
And they have a very young son.
And I'm totally convinced it's a convenience marriage so that when people Googled, like, Hunter Biden youngest child, that kid would come up instead of his.
Navy.
Instead of Navy, the one he had out of wedlock and he's had all this drama with.
Like, I think they were trying to make it so that he was like a nice family man
and we don't understand
and there are so many grandchildren,
you mix them all up.
Meanwhile, the Biden family
was just completely not acknowledging
what was happening
until they had to two months ago
and released a statement through People.
Do you know if they got a prenup,
he and this new wife of his?
I don't.
I kind of assume they have one
because I think they're pretty standard
when you have that much money,
but I don't know for sure.
What a sad family.
Yes.
I'm just like imagining
what it must be like to grow up there.
You know, like when I grew up,
it was pancakes in the morning
and mashed potatoes.
And we had Dominic's,
was our supermarket.
And so we'd have like,
you know, crummy little T-bones,
but my family did what they
could and uh we'd go outside and play and i had to come home when the street lights turned on
i could not imagine this family no i mean look i respect the traumas are awful right losing
a mom and a sister but outside of that it's like a rest of development i mean i have also lost my
mom at a young age and I have never done crack
cocaine. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just saying it doesn't give you an excuse. You can
actually be okay. I think that losing a parent is, you know, and I can speak to it really clearly,
like it changes your whole life and you live with it forever. But, you know, I didn't have,
I mean, at least I haven't made any money off of it the way he has. It would maybe be better if I had.
It's interesting because, you know, when you look at parental loss, you look at things
like divorce and by a couple of different studies will show that kids suffer more post
divorce than they do the loss of a parent through death.
And a lot of that is because, you know, you lose a parent to death.
My husband's mother was killed when he was 16.
And what happens is everybody surrounds you.
They remember together.
You mourn with them.
You're not alone in your suffering, right?
And actually, it is easier to get over and beyond that kind of tragic loss than it is,
let's say, if somebody cheats and leaves because the child internalizes that and says,
it must be my fault, right?
When a parent dies, they don't go, OK, well, she, you know, Hunter didn't go, OK, my mom
wanted to leave me.
Right.
But when you lose a parent in other ways, very often the child will internalize it as
I'm the reason.
Why is that?
I don't know.
I don't understand.
Well, think about it.
Like when, for example, parents divorce, let's say it's a no fault divorce and the parents
just go their separate ways.
The child is experiencing the death of their family.
Now they don't have their mom and dad in their home
every single day, seeing both of them,
saying goodnight to both of them.
They don't have 100% of mom and dad in their world,
which is kind of like a kid's food.
Mother love, father love is like
social emotional staples in their diet.
So now they're splitting time
or very often kids lose contact
with their non-custodial parent,
usually their dad often within two years.
And so they're kind of being starved of what they need.
But for them, there was no, they couldn't figure out why, especially in these low conflict
marriages, which is the majority of no-fault divorces.
So the kid goes, OK, this wrecked my life.
I'm starved of one or both of my parents and I'm suffering.
And I can't put my finger on why this happened.
They weren't throwing plates.
They weren't yelling at each other.
Everything seemed fine.
This was out of the blue.
It must be me.
And most kids of divorce at some point go,
I must be the problem.
You know, my parents got divorced right around
when I was like 13 to 14
and I did not experience that in the least bit.
And you know, my parents did the thing like,
we want you to know this is not your fault.
Like, no, I get it.
Good.
I was like, I know it's not. I was like, you guys, you guys are just going, you're arguing. I don't know, my parents did the thing like, we want you to know this is not your fault. Like, no, I get it. Good. I was like, I know it's not like you guys.
You guys are just going.
You're arguing.
I don't know.
Whatever.
Like, I think me and my siblings were all like just particularly pragmatic for whatever
reason.
Did you stay in touch with both your parents afterwards?
Yeah.
My dad.
My dad was only a couple blocks away.
That's good.
So he was still coming over to the house.
My parents still got along.
They're just like my parents are both very pragmatic reasonable fairly stoic yeah so despite their arguments and uh which led to divorce they
were like we're going to work together and understand there's no point wasting time fighting
about things we're getting a divorce do what you got to do and don't like each other but you know
you still had access to both and you didn't have to deal with high conflict, like,
uh,
being the go between,
between warring mom and dad or anything.
No,
no,
yeah,
not really.
No,
I think,
uh,
my,
my,
my parents were just like,
there's no point,
like it got to a point where,
and it probably rubs off on me.
Hey,
yelling isn't doing anything for us.
So let's just get divorced and then we'll facilitate the,
whatever we need to facilitate in a reasonable and studious manner, or not studious,
but stoic manner.
I'm glad that they were able to keep it together
post-divorce.
Yeah, I imagine if one of them bounced
and you never saw them, maybe then years later,
you start to wonder if I'm the reason,
if you lose touch with one of them.
It might not happen all at once, basically.
It takes some time.
That's why I ask, because I can't I can't relate to that experience.
Like my parents didn't just ditch me.
Right.
They got a divorce, but my dad was a couple blocks away and my parents still interact
with each other and everything.
Yeah.
But I think that's not true for a lot of kids.
Right.
The anecdotal experience.
I had an experience where I was with someone that attempted suicide and I felt like it
was my fault.
That was weird to go through that.
Like I really felt like I was my like like I was, I could have done something different
and I probably could have done something different, but it's not, didn't make it my fault.
Ian, I like you.
You are, I like you.
Deep feeler, tender man.
All good men are tender men.
I'm not kidding.
All good men are tender men.
The warrior poet.
You got to have a big sword and know when not to use it.
Yeah.
But I mean, I just think good men break over the right things. like when you're watching a movie and a dog gets killed yes oh my gosh my
husband cries more than me yeah that's like the one he's a good man the one thing that makes me
not want to watch a movie if there's like a needless dog death but that's why john wick did
so well because those writers knew exactly what they were like we're gonna make an action movie
where men cry and it's like right when the movie starts like he's dark he was given to him by his
wife like i'll kill him ah that is good that movie's amazing but if sadness the problem is
good to feel it because it's like gets me back to normal but if it derails me and i'm like oh i give
up because it's like it's hurt so bad i what's the point i don't want to go through that again
that's when it's becomes like a bit of a roadblock no that's because you're not meant to be alone
like you need other people to help you through that oh yeah well let's uh well let's get back
to the news uh i'm loving this emotional conversation ladies and gentlemen uh i think
joe biden's gonna drop out i think it is fair to say Joe Biden will drop out. That is a strong opinion I'm having.
Nancy Pelosi concedes Biden may drop out of the 2024 race,
then laughs and refuses to say if Kamala Harris is the best running mate.
Because this was, I believe this was on CNN.
Anderson Cooper is asking these questions.
And when asked if Biden is going to continue running,
she says, is there any chance that Biden does not continue running?
He says, I hope not.
It's actually a possibility.
Now,
thinking about all of the scandals we've seen so far and impeachment,
they need Biden to drop out.
They need distractions for this.
And,
and,
and,
and we all know it.
I mean,
there's no reasonable person,
not even,
not even the majority of Democrats.
The majority of Democrats are saying he can't run.
He's too old.
What does that look like then?
Like, explain the process then.
If he says, I'm not running, so then do they do a primary?
Do they just appoint somebody?
What do they do?
Well, depends on how conspiracy-minded you are.
Let's say I'm low conspiracy.
Low conspiracy mind is Joe Biden is rife with political scandals, facing an impeachment, which everyone thinks is going to be inevitable.
And he's too old.
The polls show he's too old.
So Joe Biden will be asked, Joe, it's time to get a new a new team in here because we're not going to be Trump off of your ticket.
That's the low conspiracy mind.
And then Gavin Newsom says, if y'all are willing to have me, shakes Joe Biden's hand and says,
I'm willing to fight for this country.
And then Joe Biden-
And the DNC just installs him as the candidate?
No, primary or something.
Joe Biden says, look, you know, I'm an old man.
And I think handing this off to Gavin Newsom is the right approach and something like that.
And Kamala Harris says that she's not, you know, she's done what she had to do.
And she was here for Team Biden. And she's only Team Biden. And she understands that if Biden's not interested that she's not you know she she's done what she had to do and she was here for for team biden and she's only team biden and she understands that
if biden's not interested she's not going to be here that's low conspiracy mind seems
difficult to imagine something like that high conspiracy mind is powerful interests don't want
joe biden to run and want a clean path forward which is not joe biden coming out and just
bowing out because that makes the
dnc look weak it makes democrats look weak high conspiracy mind in my view would be joe biden
suffers a medical issue gavin newsom runs out on stage and starts giving him cpr saves the life of
the president and then the media does this press tour of gavin newsom the man who saved the
president joe biden can then say like after this medical episode i don't think it is appropriate
to pursue this uh kamala can then say something like you know i was here for team biden and i'm
going to stick with him if he's bowing out i want to make sure that i'm working with him on whatever
he needs to assist him and we want to pass the torch to gavin and a new team or whatever and
that's high conspiracy i pictured the most cringe time magazine cover of gavin newsom looking off at an angle and it's saying the man who saved democracy yes the most plastic
looking and then there'll be a tagline where it's like facing the facing the collapse of our of our
of our democracy from fascist threats like donald trump gavin newsom saved the one man who fought
who gavin newsom saved the man who saved the country
and in turn took up the mantle to save the country himself.
Something like that.
And there are, and all these editors are sitting there being like, I can picture it right here.
Are there any pathways where Kamala fights for a spot?
Oh yeah.
I mean, there's a million pathways.
I'm just saying like the, the, the, the reasonable approach, any smart Democrat we've seen the New York Times, the Washington Post both be like Joe Biden probably shouldn't run.
So when you've got the media saying this stuff, you've got the majority of that's like 70 some odd percent of Democrats polled say he's too old to be president.
Any any Democrat worth worth their job is saying we can't run Joe Biden.
How do we get him out of the race?
And so I got to tell you, my conspiracy theory, it's not really conspiracy theory.
I'm just saying the best way to get Gavin Newsom in and to get Biden and Kamala out
is Biden is at a rally in California for his campaign and then grips his chest has a public collapse
collapses gavin newsom runs full speed on the stage throws his coat off checks his vitals
provides cpr maddox come in secret service secures the area magically the tv cameras are told not to
cut away yep all the cameras they normally would be all. So it's a bit buildings come down in free fall.
It's a bit too movie ask and conspiratorial.
Like I like that.
But I got to tell you, if there was like an evil shadow organization of unlimited resources
plotting how you do this perfectly, that's it.
Because then Gavin Newsom is on the cover of Time magazine.
The man who saved democracy.
Joe Biden valiantly saved this country in 2020.
Gavin Newsom just saved him.
It writes itself.
And then Gavin
Newsom's on a press tour. He's on The View.
He's on Real Time. He's on every
nightly show. And you've got
Anderson Cooper being like, Governor
Newsom, what is it
like to be the man who saved
the president?
And then Gavin's just like, look, I'm not here to be a hero.
I'm just here to do the right thing that any good red-blooded American would do when faced with someone in need.
Defund San Francisco.
And then, but this kind of story, we were talking earlier about your leftist friends,
your lefty friends who don't pay attention to what's going on.
You would go to them and be like, yes, but in California, there's human waste all over
the ground.
And it would be like, stop insulting the man who saved the president.
Right, right, right.
It exonerates all his sins, basically.
It makes him this hero.
But I must figure out what to do with Kamala in this scenario.
And we've talked about, you know, maybe she would be offered a position in the Supreme
Court or they could they could.
Well, this is actually easy.
After Gavin Newsom saves Joe Biden, Kamala walks on the stage on the stage and says,
I must go now.
My home planet needs me.
And then she just lifts off into outer space and is gone.
I've actually always wanted to be governor of California. So let's just switch things up.
Yeah, she's like that.
But that is the most difficult thing and trying to
come up with how kamala harris is is to bows out yeah it could really be her saying that
she doesn't know if she can she was committed to team biden because of how much she believed in him
and she doesn't know if it if she's capable of or if it's or if it's reasonable too and she could
do this thing where she's like look she'd get wrecked by the feminists for saying that, though.
Well, no, she she could she could say something where she tries to look humble and say, I don't know if I would provide enough for a winning ticket.
I was with I was for Team Biden.
And that team is unfortunately broken by this incident.
And I want to make sure we win this one.
And, you know, there's questions about electability and polling.
I say the Democratic Party should hold a primary and find the best people for the job. to make sure we win this one and you know there's questions about electability and polling i i say
the democratic party should hold a primary and find the best people for the job it would come
off as humble yeah and and and look the polls show she cannot win but she couldn't have a job
in politics again and i don't think she's ready to to retire but i'm not talking about the real
world oh yeah like the most magical scenario.
Yeah.
I think the other one would be if she pulls Sandra O'Connor and her husband is suddenly mysteriously ill and she feels so she needs to go spend time with him and just sidesteps out of politics.
Because the only problem with the one you presented to me is that the feminist will be like, you're a girl boss.
You can do anything.
What do you mean?
You don't think it doesn't really matter for it matters for her and for her legacy.
That's what she wants.
Maybe speaking to maybe she marries Joe Biden.
And then when he gets sick, she's like, my husband needs me.
Jill's listening.
She's like that one step too far, Tim.
No, I have been in here for too long.
I've been paying my debts.
I think realistically, Joe will not.
He will not give it up.
Actually, I don't know.
Maybe they can convince him to.
Maybe they can come in and sit him down and be like, it's not happening, dude.
No.
You're not going to destroy our democracy.
Let it go.
You're a liability.
You got to let it go.
And he's got like nine guys around him all telling him that.
He might be like, okay, for the party, I'll step down.
Maybe.
But then who is it going to be?
It's got to be Gavin.
I think he's too power hungry.
I think he's going to step down.
I don't know.
He's got to be tired at this point.
I mean, he's 80 and he's, I don't know.
I don't know what they do to
hype him up every now and then so that he's like firing on all synapses but i just think
on most synapses yeah i i don't know i don't know i just think he he might be ready for a break
maybe yeah but he didn't run in 2016 a one one term president he could have said you know i've
served my moment and we're out we got away from big bad donald trump and so now i'm ready for a
younger generation to step in he could have said that he kept saying we need younger people i mean
mitt romney just made this announcement saying if i run again i'll be in my mid-80s and i think
young people need joe biden could have said this he chose not to and i think that's because he
doesn't want to give it up he doesn't and if he runs again it's gonna they're gonna make him debate
the media or they're gonna
start insulting him and calling out his crimes and probably imprison him without media covering
it reminds me of the conversations around uh diane feinstein in like how they're saying you know
all these organizations again feminist organizations in particular are saying you know you did so much
for us thank you for your time we really wish you would leave yeah and they said similar things
about uh ruth bitter
gainsburg they said you know there was a whole conversation about whether or not she should
retire because her legacy and this that and the other and they wanted someone to be appointed
under uh not trump basically and uh that didn't work out waited too long if they if biden if they
make biden debate if he refuses to step down, he debates Gavin Newsom,
it's going to rip the democratic party apart.
It shred their ability to win an election.
I can't imagine that having that kind of like conflict within the party would be good for their,
for their message.
And then that would,
I mean,
obviously I think they're going to take Trump off the ballot in a couple of
states and make it so he can't win a bunch of people in the Republican
party are going to vote for him anyway and split the republican party all up too so we could end up
seeing like 20 for vivek 32 for donald trump 31 for gavin newsom 24 21 for biden like who knows
it'd be crazy but then i i would not be surprised if a secretary of state in a swing state in
october of next year or or september removes
his name from the ballot and says sue me maybe i should stop saying that it will happen though
because i don't want to be blackpilled and encourage that disreputable or just you know
disgusting behavior like let the people vote yeah unless there's actual legal precedent to remove
them um you got let the people vote they're gonna vote for him anyway no write them in there's actual legal precedent to remove him um you got let the people vote they're
gonna vote for him anyway no write him in there's there are too many voters that just check republican
or democrat and so if they take trump's name off the ballot and and it's not here's another thing
his his name could be off the ballot in key counties we saw arizona this could be a trial
balloon in arizona we know it is definitive.
It is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
It is fact.
It's in the news.
The wrong sized ballots were printed on wrong sized paper.
So the machines could not read them.
They'll argue it didn't change anything.
And that is the most psychotic and absurd lie.
The machines are broken at hundreds of locations.
Of course, that changes things.
There's no question about that.
But they're lying because it's what they do where where was the remedy for these broken bouts i i
really don't understand like if i was a judge and someone came to me and said these bouts couldn't
be scanned by the machine i'd be like election overturned done no question it's not i like but
all these judges are cowards and and pathetic and they weak and they're like, I don't want to be the one to say it.
Yes, it's because they're being ponderous judges.
Best case scenario, they're cowards.
Worst case scenario, there's behind the deals and stuff.
Yeah.
If we're supposed to have an election and the ballots at several hundred locations are wrong or however many locations, that's it.
Sorry, guys.
It's a do over.
Don't know.
Don't care. It's your problem. You deal with with it we will not have to have a special election we'll determine
what an adequate amount of time is for preparation for you but the the state screwed up the election
process and it should not stand but they didn't do that so the trial balloon is good come uh 2024
don't be surprised if ballots are printed on wrong paper or trump's smudged or
not included on it and they'll say sue us i was talking to my uber driver today uh very interesting
and just asking him lots of questions and you know what's the problem this country oh we're
so polarized how did that happen trump and i'm like really you think that trump is just a one
word answer yeah no he said and we have to get rid of him and i said how really you think that trump is just a one word answer yeah no he said and we have to
get rid of him and i said how do you do that also he's not president right now so right but he said
better right and i i was just amazed um i just asked him last week we have to get rid of how
do you do that legally and he goes well they're working on it but even if they can't do it legally
he just needs to go and it was like it just blew me away and this was a guy who's a cult
pretty sensible uh they'll have no response like no reason for you they'll just say he has to go and it was like it just blew me away and this was a guy who's a cult pretty sensible uh they'll have no response like no reason for you they'll just say he has to go and they ask
why and they'll be like well you know just because like you know the thing like you know
because you know and what he said is because he's tearing families apart yeah he's telling
friendships apart and i'm like you think that started with trump and he's like oh absolutely
so we will not have wholeness in this country until he's gone. Yeah, it started when he was on The Apprentice. He was just wrecking families.
If you illegally got rid of one of the most famous politicians in the United States before he's about to run for president, you would not rebind the United States.
That would tear it to shreds. I don't know what this guy's thinking. It's a cult.
Well, he is getting he is getting one half. Well, he's getting a narrative and and he believes it.
And so that's the conclusion.
So anyway, if you're a judge with that narrative and you have the power to do something about it, what are you going to do?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's difficult.
I think there are people on both sides who feel the division and want truly and honestly want to see that healed. On the other hand, it's very hard to reconcile opposite sides
when one of them is saying getting rid of Trump is the only answer.
In fact, he will always have a political legacy in this country,
even if, you know, for whatever reason,
something happened, he weren't to win the election in 2024.
He has already made an impact.
So are you saying that there's no turning back?
Because there really is no ultimately getting rid of Trump.
He is already a staple in American politics.
He made a huge impact on our history.
You have to be able to heal the wounds regardless of who was in the Oval Office.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, I argued, look, I feel like the sea change happened with Obama personally.
And that was when I was not a political animal.
Well, to me, that was the first time when I heard the other side saying,
it's not that we disagree. It's not
even that you're stupid. It's that you're evil.
You're evil, right? Now, it's
you're Nazis, you're bigots, you're evil, if
you don't agree with our progressive priorities.
And, you know, you can have relationships with people
that are wrong or misguided or stupid,
but you don't have relationships with
Nazis. Yeah, but they're evil.
Who? The elements of the
left that are pushing their political agenda you have the malicious evil and you have the banality
of evil the people who march in lockstep uh so i'll give you a couple examples literally not
everybody is evil but when you have someone say to me i think the general direction that the J6 trials are going is good. And I say, Joe Biggs got two decades for allegedly knocking over a temporary barricade.
And they say, I don't know anything about that, but I think it's mostly good.
That's the banality of evil.
When it's commonplace that ignorant people allow evil things to happen.
But you then have the people who are running the show the intelligence agencies the prosecutors and the courts that know there's no reason to give someone like joe biggs two
decades for knocking over a barricade that's that's ridiculous but they're evil and they want
you to suffer they want you to feel pain these are people like you know the funny thing about uh
video games and i made a joke about balder's gate most people who play video games will understand
this there are many games that have karma systems where you can choose to be good or evil and the
meme online is that whenever people try to play the evil character it hurts and they can't do it
they can't bring themselves to play the evil character unfortunately for you some people have
figured out how to do it in real life the guy who why does it hurt like explain that to me it's it's it's with it
like okay so uh balder's gate for instance or i use fallout 3 fallout 3 uh has a uh right when
you come out of the in the beginning there's a town that's that's built around a nuclear bomb
fall three is a game about a post-apocalyptic it's like a bomb that never went off yeah it's a it's
like a megaton bomb and very easily you can disarm it or you can trigger it to blow up killing everybody
and it just it feels bad it feels bad to be like i know none of these things these people are real
but i don't i can't so what you what the joke is you save do it and then load and having never
actually done it just to see what would happen.
But there's a bunch of memes where, I mean, if you read stories about these video games, people struggle to be the villain in the game.
So it's like in Baldur's Gate.
I don't want to spoil anything, but let's just say, I'll give a really bland hypothetical.
The bad guy looks at you and says, slay the innocent person.
And you can choose to do it.
And most people are like, I can't. guy looks at you and says, slay the innocent person and you can choose to do it.
And most people are like, I can't.
I'm trying to play a villain character for the villain storyline, but it just, you can't bring yourself to just watch this scene where it's a representation of you hurting innocent
people.
So does it look like you in the video?
Do you look like yourself?
Okay.
And then is the person that you're hurting, do they look like a real person?
Could be a goblin, could be a unicorn, who knows?
It could be random. It's still pretty cartoony at this stage yeah but but it's it's not that it's
my point with this is not to get into video games and all the stuff it's just that it will start to
look very real though the people who understand what i'm talking about if you don't you know just
just try and imagine the scenario but for people who've played video games and know that you're
like i can't bring myself to be the evil character. There's the guy in Virginia whose daughter was raped or sexually assaulted.
And he was at a hearing when a woman.
Oh, the school board.
Oh, no, no, no.
School board me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And a woman said to him, you're lying.
That never happened.
And then the school board lied and said it never happened.
And he lost it.
He got angry.
Yeah.
The prosecutor tried to put him in jail and he said
she is the most evil person i've ever met we are dealing with these prosecutors this woman in in
virginia knows that a man's daughter was sexually assaulted in a school she knows they're covering
it up and in her mind she goes i'm gonna put you in prison because they get the sick pleasure
from just hurting people it's an unfathomable i cannot understand it but that characterizes
a substantial amount of people in what we would call the culture war left whereas the culture
war right certainly does have these people too but it's an inversion there's much less of them
they're less tolerated people don't like that stuff.
On the left, you have the banality of evil.
The people who march in lockstep, not asking questions about why you put someone in prison
for 20 years.
And then the evil person is empowered by the ignorant to torture individuals.
Well, you have to figure out what your God is.
What's your God?
And for some of them, you know, the school board, you know, woman on the board or whoever's
deciding that he goes to jail, she has a God. Her God is gender ideology. Her God is, you know,
ultimate sexual and gender freedom. And what do you do for gods? You sacrifice for them,
right? And so if that's your God, then there is no sacrifice that is beneath you and you must do
it to appease your God. But I agree with you, but I still think we have to be careful in defining
what God is because they're godless. No, what I still think we have to be careful in defining what God is
because they're godless.
No, what I'm saying is, what is a God?
It's something worth sacrificing for, right?
What is it?
Well, God is your ultimate, your ultimate aim, the thing that matters most to you in
life.
And I mean, like a God will warp your reality.
I mean, I think that that's what we're seeing with the woke too, is like, if you lift that
up, it will warp how you see the world.
That is what idols do.
But I want to clarify the definition, right? Yeah. If you lift that up, it will warp how you see the world. That is what idols do. It warps your world.
But I want to clarify the definition, right?
Yeah.
God to me is the literal definition of God, a higher powerful being beyond us and our
capabilities, the creator of all things.
They don't have that.
They have something that they serve.
But they do not have that concept in their minds of a higher power.
It does not exist.
They're worshiping.
But it's not the same thing.
There is a plus one and negative one.
These people are either blind and ignorant and will just be party to the collective unwittingly and useful idiots.
Or they believe they are simply but a wet robot and there is no truth but power.
So they will wield it however they see fit.
You ask these people for the most part, they will tell you there's no God and nothing matters.
And then you have many people who might say they believe in God, but are ignorant and
the banality of evil.
They are the commonplace, ignorant person who does not want to know, does not care to
know, but will gladly march behind whatever they think is safe.
That might be the case, but they have a hierarchy as jordan peterson would say a hierarchy of values
something has to be at the top that something is going to be served that something is going to have
other subordinate values but there isn't one but there is and what is it well it depends right is
it gaia is it the earth is it the earth that needs your sacrifices because otherwise we're going to
burn it to death and therefore we need to like go to zero emissions and then all of the poor people across the globe need to die
because we're serving gaia but now you're talking about a you're talking about an infinite group of
infinite different groups of people yes everybody has something that they are worshiping and serving
and i think that for a lot of people it's sexual freedom and like i have the right to do whatever
i want regardless of who it hurts i mean mean, if sex, your feelings, your identity, your decisions, if that's God, well, then we see children end up being the
sacrifice for that. You're going to serve something. Everybody's serving something.
And even the people that are just going along, why are they going along? Because you're made
to be part of a community. And that also is what religion does for you, right? It gives you a
fellowship. It gives you community. It gives gives you identity and so these people are finding a god to worship it's just destructive you know and it often involves humans i just i
just again want to clarify the definition there is a god and they are not they are lacking one
so so you can say that they have uh they have vestiges or tenets but they do not have god
they have a lowercase g right it's they they have frame. They have they it's not even fair to say that they have a framework.
They have a chaotic mass. That's all it is. There's there's no cohesion to the ideology.
They've bounced around from pro war to anti war. They at first it was critical race theory,
then critical gender theory. There is no nothing you can pin their ideology to because there is not one
i've had this argument with you know people like james lindsey like they're they're not marxists
they will support capitalism if capitalism is part of the tribe part of their tribal nature
there's no logic or moral framework to anything they do and i think it's probably because they
are godless so their God is their self.
That's it, right?
And if your God is yourself, that means you get to bend and you get to change, right?
That's it.
And this is the ultimate original sin.
And I mean, I'm talking to you as if my husband's a pastor, right?
I carry my Bible's right here.
I read it with everybody that I'm with.
So I love God.
I know God.
But I also know the substitute, which is very, very often.
And what the enemy will try to sell you is you are your own God.
And that is why you can bend.
This is my point is they don't like themselves.
And there is no nucleus to which they have adhered to.
So in order for there to be a God that they worship, there would need to be a centralized structure,
which there is not.
It's the lack thereof.
Yeah, that is why people that worship self are,
as Hannah was saying before the show,
more likely to be depressed.
You know, the ones that are being sucked into,
you know, all of the different maladies,
the social maladies.
Yeah, I think there is a culture within the United States,
and I think globally too,
that says, you know, ultimately your own needs and your own desires are what should govern your whole life. And if you are completely absorbing, I mean, there are narcissists who have very low
self-esteem, right? So they hate themselves, but they also are completely obsessed with their
worldview and they cannot be proven wrong about anything. They have all the traits of classic
narcissism, but also you wouldn't know it
because they're covert narcissists.
They seem like they are a defeatist in some way.
And I think it's true that there are so many people
who are lacking direction or meaning in their life
that they either turn inwards
and become obsessed with their own being
and validating their own feelings,
or they look to be the defenders of something.
And so you'll get people who say,
well, I'm here advocating for people
who can't advocate themselves.
I'm here defending people who are gender fluid
and I've got to be an ally and this, that, and the other.
They are looking to represent something
because they are so lost in and of themselves.
Well, that's part of what it means to be human
is you are called to something greater.
And if you're not serving the greatest thing,
you will find something lesser to serve.
I thought that was a good question you asked about the video game trope why
can't why is it so hard for someone to be evil i wonder if that's we should actually do an
experiment with that actually test people and try and figure out oh yeah especially as video games
are more realistic when you're in a first person game and you can actually feel the knife going
into the thing and you can hear the screen stop how do you feel a knife haptic feedback gloves that will vibrate and create pressure
when you do things in the vr haptic feedback there's also there's also uh controllers technology
so the controllers have pressure resistance now so when you are like pushing a door open in a
video game and this is much more rudimentary are you in an entire entire suit? Well, you could be. Yeah, so we actually have
the full VR thing downstairs not set up yet
where you can actually stand and run
in place, but in some video games
there'll be like a door, the door's closed. To open it
you have to hold down R2
which is the back trigger button on the controller
and it actually resists your push
whereas normally it just presses
very easily. The controller can actually
create resistance to make you have to give,
put more strength into it.
So with haptics,
I don't know about putting a knife into something,
but it can,
it can squeeze your hand and vibrate and create sensation.
Yeah.
But nobody,
that's not common.
No,
it's going to become more common.
These action games where it's so realistic that you're actually,
it's going to feel and seem like you're killing something for real.
Like the pig will be screaming and blood will be coming and you'll be like having
to stay i mean that will create psychopathy in human if they have to if that's how they train
their their gaming is like they're killing stuff for real like that's not i i read a thread on
reddit the other day from someone who made a villain character in balder's gate and it was
a really cool looking character like glowing red eyes and like a crazy face paint and they were like they're like i got halfway through and like
every time i'm faced with these these challenges it's like i'm just doing things i really really
don't like and don't want to play the game like i can't do it but the game is is created as such
that you can do the villain stuff or do the good guy stuff or be the rogue or whatever and there
are people like i just can't bring myself to do it i would love to do a test where you sit people down and and make them give
them like a scene from one of these games easily scripted with you know oblivion skyrim or something
or even balder's gate and then actually ask people their background their age their income their
education level all of that stuff their voting patterns
i would love to see voting patterns maybe we should do this what do you think you would see
i'm curious i think you'd find democrats overwhelmingly being okay with uh you know
like let's i i think you would see you would have there would be a tendency among people who say
they vote democrat with being okay with a bad thing happening in the
game to varying degrees. Why do you think that is? Based on the political world that we see right now.
When I ask someone, why is Joe Biggs going to prison for two decades? And they literally say,
I don't care. And I'm like, a human being is being imprisoned by an oppressive state
to destroy his life for what? And they like so what like that's evil that's
literally like i i that is evil is it a form of nihilism i know it's evil i think it doesn't
matter but if they're like it doesn't matter that joe biggs got 22 years like is that another aspect
of nihilism yeah it matters right it's it's utilitarian thinking versus deontological thinking
and utilitarianism in my view has a tendency towards evil. There are certain circumstances
where you can say,
we're faced with a difficult decision
and we are going to try
and maximize life-saving.
There's not much you can do.
You've got two school buses
about to go over the edge of a cliff.
One's got 10 kids in it.
One's got three kids.
Man, you gotta go for the bus
with the 10 kids
and save as many people as you want.
You can't make decisions
on the individuals of the other bus.
And this lends itself to the trolley problem but to go back to uh joe biggs individually it's deontological morality you cannot take immoral actions against an individual
it matters more than anything that when it comes to enrique when it comes to joe biggs and the other
proud boys that have been overly sentenced and the other j6ers it matters the world that each of
these individuals receive proper justice and the sentences they got are completely improper. The fact that we
see Democrats celebrating the torture and unjust rulings shows me the evil rests more so not
absolutely. So if we were to create a video game scenario where your character uh sees a man holding a cat and then
the the guy instructs you to kill the the cat i i'd be willing to bet that it would skew to a
certain degree probably a small degree that democrats are like so what do it and republicans
would be more likely no i can't yeah i do you think that it would be different if it was i mean
because like i don't know the
the people that lean left in my life uh they don't have kids they have pets so i think that they might
have a hard time killing the cat they'd be like oh it's a video game who cares i wonder if that's
right they'd be dissociated from like and they'd say who cares it doesn't matter if it's if it's
less about political affiliation more about nihilism uh versus having hope because something
about not having kids is like well what is there to live for really what's the purpose and everyone says let's having kids
how about how about this we get a thousand conservatives a thousand libertarians a
thousand liberals a thousand independents and then you know to what degree we can get communist
socialists you know fascists whatever and. And you make maybe 300 of each
encounter a different scenario.
A Republican is shown a video game scenario
where a Democrat is holding a Republican
on his knees with a weapon
and instructs you to commit an act against them
in the video game.
It's just a video game.
It's not real life.
You're fine.
Then 300 Republicans are presented a scenario
where it's the Democrat on the ground. scenario where it's the Democrat on the ground.
Then where it's an independent on the ground.
And then you see, are they more or less willing to commit?
Are these groups based on the political affiliation of the characters in the game?
Be interesting.
I think this is a great research institute to start for Tim Cass University.
Didn't we watch that a couple weeks ago?
Imagine a scenario in a video game where, and I quite literally mean a video game like Skyrim, and you have the villain.
Let's say he's a demon, quite literally a demonic figure with big red wings, and there's a man on his knees wearing a MAGA hat.
And it's like he's wearing knight armor and he has a sword, but he's wearing a Trump hat.
Would the Democrat voter be inclined to serve the devil master in the game?
I was going to say it's sad to think that someone
would be more likely to attack someone based or let someone suffer based on their clothing
but then i was thinking about military uniforms and i mean that's the whole purpose of uniforms
and they know who to who to make suffer and who not and and there were i think in like in one
year alone there were 800 instances where trump supporters were physically attacked on the streets
at random like at what point does civilian clothing become a military insignia,
a militant symbol?
I don't think of it as a militant symbol.
I think there was this study that Teen Vogue,
I think Commission,
they published about it this week,
saying that the overwhelming majority of men and women,
they asked them about their red flags
and green flags in dating.
It's so fascinating.
You wrote about this, didn't you?
I did write about this.
I read about it. I'm going to talk about my own work and green flags in dating. It's so fascinating. You wrote about this, didn't you? I did write about this.
I'm going to talk about my own work.
Thank you so much.
What I find interesting about this is because it was largely framed off of political
stuff.
The overwhelming majority of both men and women
said if someone identified as a MAGA Republican
that would be a red flag.
Men said communist. Men were more likely
to lean towards communist. Still, 55% of women also said it would be a red flag. But men said communists. Men were more likely to lean towards communists. Still, 55% of women also said it would be a red flag of communists.
But men, fewer men thought someone identifying as a liberal was a red flag than the men that
thought someone who believes in astrology was a red flag.
I mean, there are limits to the political affiliations.
And I think there are like, I'm just saying, wait, saying look wait hold on i say to your point it is interesting to me that it was they were willing to forgive liberals more than they were
willing to forgive mag and service the way people perceive your political affiliation does i think
impact how they these were red flags it didn't say they would not date it did not say they had
disdain it said it was a red flag that's it and i don't care who the guy is if there is a beautiful woman and she's got
a communist flag pin or he knows he can change her political affiliation no he doesn't care about
changing but deep down he knows he can change he's just like yeah the woman may see the guy with the
symbol and be like i can change him for. For sure. But more importantly, anyone, I got to be completely honest, guys, especially Trump
supporters out there.
Yo, if I'm not in the dating market, but I just have to say, like, if I met a woman and
her whole identity was like, I'm a MAGA Republican, I'd be like, that's kind of weird.
Oh, anybody that I think.
It'd be super weird.
Yeah.
Even if you're a Trump supporter, just being like that would be like, oh.
And it works the other way, too.
Like, more women were more likely to think it was a green flag if you were saying, if you said black lives matter, right?
But why?
Why does that matter in who you're dating?
Well, because they're looking for political compliance in a way that they find to be acceptable.
Women were more likely to want, they would value talking about politics more than men did.
Men actually didn't care about how often you talk about, the majority of men don't care about how frequently you talk about politics. Men were more
likely to think it was a red flag or a green flag if women drank cow's milk over any kind of non-dairy
milk. Like women were not thinking about this at all, but people are, especially based on gender,
they're evaluating your political and cultural behaviors in these sort of small ways
and it gives you an insight into what you're doing so i think this study on video games is
actually really fascinating i think it could be interesting to see if people were more willing
to hurt people uh based on political ideology even if it is in a video game if they're and
you'd have to find a way to like test out okay i have to interject i'm so curious and hopefully
you guys well you probably have already seen it but let me ask you each uh how often do you guys think about the Roman Empire
fairly often how many times I mean per week per day where you got three times a week minimum
oh man yeah just probably I mean we talk about it on the show I see clips of it and stuff which
remind me so I don't know if that counts yeah it does like how many times does it come to mind is
my question the chosen keeps popping up on my tv randomly sometimes i'll watch like a two-hour documentary
literally all the time okay if i watch something for two hours straight does it just count as
thinking of it once because i think about it for two hours constantly so have you seen this the
tiktok where the woman is like oh my gosh my husband thinks about the roman empire like once
a day yeah and i mean like then i saw all these other women oh i was thinking about the roman
empire earlier actually so maybe it's more than five times a week i i was i was
watching a show earlier and it auto like this is not me choosing to think about it but the chosen
came on and there's roman i picture the northern italy there's that joke that uh uh at a certain
age men have to decide if they're gonna get really into grilling or world war ii history oh my god
there are things that men i that that's not a question i was never no it's not even my i texted my husband i'm like do you ever think about the roman empire how often he's
like oh about once a day yeah my my dad and older brother referenced the roman empire my entire life
growing up i felt like number one i was not that interested in it but men think about it all the
time yes this is correct yeah this is correct women women are shocked to find this out uh so
as much as many women don't like Fresh and Fit,
are you familiar with Fresh and Fit?
I listened to your Culture Warrior episode
with my 16-year-old on a road trip.
So we have lots of-
Lots to talk about.
Yeah, that's actually how we parent.
We listen to it and we discuss.
They mentioned women don't have hobbies.
And it's like, it's a shocking thing to men to discover.
And I was like-
That was in your little uh
it's not this is something keen vogue asked about too so uh they said that when they bring women on
their show and they say it's average women but i really do think it's like it's miami local women
so they're they're choosing from a select batch but they say when they ask women like what do you
do for fun they go what do you mean and he's like what do you do for fun like what do you do and
they're like i i don't know like i hang out with my friends and like yeah but like doing what like we go out like
but what go out what does that mean where do you go and like what do you mean what do we do just go
out what are you talking about like they the women are confused by the question well so men and women
are different okay and this is the difference women form relationships face to face men form
relationships side by side so it really is a it's a different thing men form bonds
doing things together like going to war and playing on sports and building a shed women don't need to
do that hannah and i sat down before him we're like just tell me about your life yeah oh my god
where did you go you you reference uh men are from mars women from venus when uh when john gray wrote
that one of my favorite things that i read in it by the way my dad kept recommending that to me
uh because he was like you just need to know that they're not the same thing.
But one of my favorite observations that Gray had was that men go to lunch to talk about
something.
They go to lunch to be like, we've got an issue.
We got to talk about this.
We're going to make a business deal.
And women will go to lunch to gather information, right?
It's a reason that like, I have multiple female friends.
I can be on the phone multiple times a week for four hours because there's just stuff
to talk about, man.
Yeah, but it's people versus things. It very different subject versus true this is right chemical bonding has
these elements too like ionic bonding where you guys would be interacting sharing an electron
bouncing it back and forth or covalent bond where you're sharing it together then there's metallic
bonding where all the electrons are headed in one direction we're all protons witnessing it that's
like the male communication tactic is a metallic type of bond where we're all focused on something together.
It's object versus subject.
So the meme is that when women take pictures of objects, it's a picture of themselves next to the object.
Men will take a picture of the object.
So this popped up on Reddit because a guy would be like, hey, just got a new video game.
And it's a picture of the game.
And women would be like, look at the game I got.
And it's them going like this, holding it.
Is it better to say instead of that men communicate metallically, women do it ionically or however
you were saying earlier?
Is it better to say that the masculine form of communication is focusing on a thing, the
feminine?
Because it's not always women that do the feminine behavior.
Sometimes men are feminine and women are masculine or they embody we each embody both yeah so because i do enjoy the the cross communication you were
saying women generally do i do a lot more than okay let me just give you a family guy reference
when peter goes to a he goes to a clinic to get like medical tests on him to make money or
something i can't remember the exact reason and they're like we're going to give you the squirrel
gene and then it like he turns into a squirrel and they're like we're gonna give you the seth rogan gene that makes you
seemingly funny even though you're not saying anything that's funny and then finally they give
him the gay gene so peter becomes gay and then he calls i think he calls quagmire or joe or something
and he's like what you doing and they're like what do you mean you called me and he's like what
you thinking about what what are you calling me for yeah like like for guys it's just like what why are you asking me these
questions the one i see on on instagram all the time is uh girls like husbands pretending to call
wisely like the way they want them to and it's just like hey i was just on my lunch break like
what are you doing did you get your nails done oh my gosh did you ask andrea about whatever and
it's the same the The opposite is girls will,
like it's infuriating to women that if you have like a boyfriend
who goes on, you know,
to golf with all of his friends
and then you're like,
oh, how was it?
And they're like, it's great.
Yeah, how's Joe doing with Andrea?
I heard that they were going through some rough times.
He's like, I don't know.
Oh, they broke up.
I'm like, what?
When?
I don't know.
They have no details for you.
This is what women live for.
But it's because we serve different purposes in society.
So our communication obviously is different.
We're hardwired to seek out different information.
That's why it's good to have both people on the team, right?
Yeah.
People having different conversations.
Or mom and dad when you're a kid.
Oh, Tim.
You get 1,000 them before us points.
Good job.
Does he get a certificate too of that?
How do we credit these points?
Oh, I just keep track
okay that's okay that's great it's like hogwarts yeah you don't need to understand oh okay it's
your honorary degrees yeah no i'll give you whatever you need you just keep cranking out
the good content house cup wisdom you know and i beat beat ian but i think it is i win
tim katz university has a house cub it's very complicated you'll have to hear about it in our
research institute.
But I do think that there is something really valuable to acknowledging that men and women's communication is different, but that doesn't have to be bad.
It just is one of the reasons that I think monogamy is great because you only have to
figure one woman or one man out, right?
You don't have to figure all of them out and get good at communicating with them and learn
to change your communication in a way that isn't emotionally satisfactory.
You just have to figure out one person.
And there's these general distinctions that are generally true.
And then every husband and wife is going to break the mold in some way.
So I am very low emotion.
And it's actually really sabotaged to my husband in a lot of ways because he's a pastor.
And that's a high shepherding, high counseling.
And he's very, very good at it.
But I'm like, honey, just give me the information.
What do you need?
Just get right to it. I don't have a lot of time i'm gonna be here for another five minutes we can have this conversation i'm gonna continue roasting these brussels sprouts
okay but i just need you just get this to me really fast um and then he'll go to work or go
to church or he'll talk to somebody and he'll go why did you choose this color for the bulletin
and the woman would be like and so it's like i have i i'm so kind of low emotional needs uh and and
generally women aren't on that they need a little more hand-holding they need a little more like
building up and um so he has had to unlearn some of what i've taught him but yeah like we don't
fit into a mold there are personality differences but there are also generalities that tend to hold
true do you well women are communists and men are capitalists
oh okay yeah uh tendencies right so if you look at the voting patterns i'm being hyperbolic to
a certain degree when you look at voting patterns women overall only vote democrat if you look at a
map of the united states if only women voted it's every state's blue except for one but isn't that
single women yes right yeah and then if you look at only male voters, it's every state is red.
But one, the question about women voting Republican is, are women who vote Republican more likely to get married or are women who get married later more likely to vote Republican?
Right. So we know that there's a correlation. We don't know if it's conservative women who have more children because really it's not marriage.
It's child rearing. Right. Women that have more children tend to be conservative, or does having more children make
you conservative? And I understand the kind of communist socialist thing, because the only place
that socialism really is effective and natural is in the family, right? That really is-
Small scale, personal and five people.
Yeah, like unconditional commitment. You do what you can. Those that have less still have their needs met, all of that kind of thing. That is where it needs to take place. So I understand that women being a little more nurturing, social, family-oriented, others-oriented, because we are, that that would make sense because then they take their little micro-society and apply it to the whole nation. Yeah. I found maybe you guys can confirm or deny as females that generally the feminine, when
if a woman complains, she just wants you to listen and understand.
Whereas if a man complains, he wants a solution to the problem.
Yep.
I don't know if that's, it's not always every time, but I'm wondering if you guys agree
with that because I found it excessively successful in my relationships.
I think it's a good place to start.
I will say again that in my relationship with my husband? I think it's a good place to start. I will say
again that in my relationship with my husband, I would say literally because he's a good man,
he is intuitive and he is very in touch with what's going on emotionally with me and my kids.
And so he is more long suffering when it comes to listening. And maybe because I'm really, really busy, I don't have time for the deep emotional rabbit
trails that we go down.
So I don't know if it's just personality or if it's kind of stage where in life I'm so
busy that I don't have time for the deep emotional dive.
And I personally don't need it.
But if you're a guy, I would recommend defaulting with, yeah, just listen to her.
Yeah.
And then maybe ask, do you want a solution or do you just want me to hear you out?
Did you guys involve therapy, raising four kids and stuff?
Was there ever like external therapists and stuff that you guys would go to as a family
or individuals that helped you?
No.
Well, we did do a deep marriage counseling about four years ago. Like, you know, most marriages go through a rough
spot and we did. We had like a year or two where we, I felt more like enemies than friends. You
just have to push through that kind of stuff. So we did have to do a very intense marriage week
of therapy to like do our realignment, but largely it's been fine. It's been great. Largely it's been great
between us and between our kids.
In terms of therapy,
not therapy,
but you've got to read good information.
You've got to find other people
that are parenting well
that are a few steps ahead of you
because you need that on the ground intel.
What did you do for this
when your kid acted this way?
How did you talk with them about this?
I mean, there are things
that you are not going to know
unless you see somebody else
do it successfully and glean their wisdom so you don't have to reinvent the
wheel. How'd you find those people? At church. Go to church. I'm not kidding. I don't care.
I'm laughing because it's why we had church for so long. Correct. Whether you're religious or not,
it's where people come together and your community shares resources, knowledge, information. Values.
And it's been shattered. That's right.
I know we say that in our book,
you know,
our Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City.
The entire last chapter is called Find Your People.
Like you might think that you are the only conservative
in Austin or Chicago,
but you're not.
There are other people that share your values.
They are at church.
And you know what?
I don't care if you disbelieve
that a guy can live for 72 hours
in a whale's digestive tract.
I get it.
Maybe you're skeptical.
But do you want other people that are going to fortify you and your children and tell
them that they are not crazy for choosing not to wear the mask with the little cutout
for your French horn?
Go to church.
That is where you're going to find those people.
So even if you don't believe that the Bible is the divine inspired word of God, you need
the people that are at church.
Go there.
Don't go to a church with a female pastor.
Go to a real church.
How come?
What's the problem with female pastors?
How much time do you have?
We got like three minutes before we go to Superchats.
What?
Well, then let's just get this over with.
My next book that I'm going to co-author with my husband is called Headship.
And it's why God designed there to be headship. That is not domination, control, or chauvinism. It's headship.
It's leadership. It's primary responsibility in two institutions. And it's not government,
and it's not academia, and it's not business. It is the home, and it is the church. Men are
supposed to be the heads of those two institutions. Why is that? Because those are the two institutions
responsible for human formation, and men are not optional in the project of human formation.
And when men are made optional, they leave both the home and the church, and that's what we've
been doing. I think one of the issues we have as a society is that socially we've made it being a
follower is a bad thing to be. It's a bad thing to be a follower jesus followed the father and so what we have is we're everyone's being told you want the followers right
your social media how many followers do you have there is nothing wrong with being a follower i
follow several people there are certain people that are famous that are celebrities i'm super
excited to meet and talk to there are people excited excited to meet me. I was talking to Meet Kevin
and one of the things I mentioned was
it is okay to be a follower
and there is honor and respect in doing so.
And this lends itself to, you know,
like feminists are like,
no, I have to be in charge all the time.
I feel like a lot of men don't think that way.
When I would play video games with my friends, there was no leader.
There was only leading.
So we would play The Division, for instance.
It's a four-person, four people team up, and you play special agents going in and stopping bad guys.
And we'd be like, hey, man, you've done this run before.
Just tell me what to do.
And he'd be like, okay, let's go.
And then be like, hey, go there and stay back. We gonna go in front i'd be like you got it there was there
was there was i did not feel slighted or disrespected in any way that someone was telling
me what to do i trusted them so i my view is kind of like why do we love dogs so much one of the
reasons is loyalty because the unquestionable loyalty to you you know they trust you and you
trust them and you have their best intentions.
And they know that if they trust you, you'll take care of them.
And we love that about them.
We mourn for our dogs.
Cats are silly and they're funny, but they are totally independent.
But so now we have a society that says you are bad for being the kind of person that is willing to trust in a leader.
There's got to be a fine balance, right? You need
to be someone who pays attention, who learns enough, but you need to also surround yourself
by people you can trust. And there's nothing wrong with being a follower or being a leader.
Both have their good components and their bad components. A leader is nothing without loyal
men and women who are behind him supporting the vision that he has and trusting and believing in
it. You can also be a leader and a follower at the same moment,
like Adam Sosnick,
who works with Patrick Bet-David on the PBD podcast.
He's an example of someone
that he's a follower on the PBD podcast.
He's number two to Pat,
but he's a leader in his own personal life
where he runs, I think, a Fortune 500 company
that he's the leader.
Right, right, right.
And you need that first follower phenomenon
where a really great leader is only gonna, not gonna go anywhere until someone steps up and says, I believe in you. I believe in him.
And then all of a sudden, all these other people will be like, well, if someone else believes in
him, then maybe there's something to him. I'll believe in him too. And so that's an important
role to be a follower. And that's what you said. The word that you said correctly is role. This
does not have to do with, well, this is the smartest. Well, he's the most talented. It is no, this is your role. And in these two institutions, it is a male only role from God's perspective. And this actually aligns with a lot of the ways that we're naturally wired, right? Like we were talking before about men having more connections between the back of the hemisphere to the front of the hemisphere in their brains. So they tend to be a little more driven, more focused, more alert to threats.
That is very important when you're at the head.
Women tend to have more connections between hemispheres.
We can jump around a little more easy.
We're a little more wired for connection.
That works very, very well when it comes to caretaking and socialization.
And those two things happen pretty easily in the home and the church.
Leadership is harder.
Leadership is harder. And we need to encourage men to move into those roles.
People just need to get chickens.
Deciding who has to go.
Because you got to watch them. The rooster does the dude stuff. I'll tell you this,
every Friday, we have sushi and poker here at the castle. So tomorrow, once we wrap up the show,
big order of sushi comes in, everyone eats together and talks and then the leftover sashimi
goes to the chicken coop.
What do you think the roosters do
when we throw the fish into
the chicken coop?
They keep their heads alert and they look up
and watch as the girls eat.
Man. And it's rough because we're like,
we want the roosters to eat the fresh fish.
It's very, very good for them, but they just wait and let the girls eat it the the boys are just like no i'm good is there
any food where they will be like i want that some like i'll wait until little luke is like by himself
and i'll toss a piece of fish to him and then he'll look down and very slowly like look at it
and he might take a bite or look up the hens will run over and just annihilate it and he'll just stand there the inverse of wolves because i think with wolves the the male
alpha male will eat first and then all the other ones will protect the alpha male while it eats i
don't know if that includes with females with wolves and i think it's true with lions too
there's a there's a hierarchy of who gets to eat i don't think it's necessarily just the the gender
it's like the elder it's like seniority or something yeah but it is really funny we had a
our old chicken coop we had a hawk attack and we only had seven and roberto runs he leads the girls
to the door to go back into the because the coop was fully covered and had a little door he runs to
the door they all follow him and then he stands next to it and waits as they all run in and then
he goes in behind them chivalry in action gender roles in society we i know we're not going to talk about tonight
maybe you guys will talk about it tomorrow on the culture war too but i think that reason and i don't
want to make general claims about women in power because a lot of women have masculine behaviors
and aren't this but the desire to to nurture and mother without children comes out in like hr comes out and women in positions of
power and with money involved is they'll try and parent their their employees or i mean there's an
overabundance of women in nursing right and we never think that's a bad thing except for every
once in a while someone's like we should have more men because of gender equality and actually
thing in elementary school you have tons of female teachers like why aren't there more male teachers
well because we are wired for this. Yeah.
Why would you take that away from them?
If they get stuck in more female sewage, you know, treatment specialists.
If they're supposed to nurture it the same way. In a position where their real job is to fire the idiots and hire the good people and penalize and ruin the people that are messing up.
That might be challenging for someone that wants to make sure everyone's healthy and taken care of naturally. So female judges actually hand down guilty sentences less often and less severe
penalties, right? And that, and it's great to be a nurturer. It's great to have that kind of
social awareness. It's great to be high in agreeability, which is what women are. But
when it comes to justice, when it comes to gatekeeping and protection. No, you don't want that nurturing role to take over.
You ever see that video where there's a dude being sentenced
or he's being like arraigned by a judge
and then the judge recognize him.
They went to grade school together and there's her.
She's become this judge and he's become the criminal.
And she's like, did you go to this elementary school?
And he's like, oh my God. And then she's like, I remember you. elementary school and he's like oh my god and
then she's like i remember you i went to school with you what happened you were so nice we were
friends and then he starts crying and breaking down saying oh my god over and over again i'm
like you want to talk about how you reduce recidivism that is a man that that she she
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and then like that's not to say that women do not have a critical role to play in formation but it
it's women have what my friend glenn stanton calls a soft power to shape the world it's not through
this is right this is wrong do this don't do. It is this soft influence. And that actually is why you see massive behavior change in terms of
work hours and pursuit of different higher degrees, adopting more responsibility. When men
get married, their behavior changes because I was listening to your fit and fit and fresh and fit
with the manhood, right? And you said, well, what is masculine? What is manhood? And the answer is
taking responsibility for yourself
so you can take responsibility for someone else.
That is what manhood is, right?
And so it's important for men to do that.
They can't become a man
until they take responsibility for a wife and they change.
Like sociologists call this, they have a term for this.
And it is that women civilize men.
Their behavior changes in such a way. And the better more pro-social behavior more responsibility and married men live
longer i can define what it is to be a man very simply it is you're on a uh let's just say you're
you're in a nuclear power plant that is going into lockdown and the blast doors are closing and you have to run up and grab the
door with all your strength as it's pressing down on you and crushing your bones and you have to
hold it as long as possible so that everyone else can escape better one is being a man is working
security for morgan stanley on 9-11 and making sure all of your employees get out and then once
they do
knowing that there's still
10 or so in there
and rushing back
into that building
to make sure they get out
and then no one
ever sees you again.
And Daniel Perry
on the subway
protecting the women
from the psycho guy
who's threatening everybody
and puts him in the
responsible
not choke hold
what's that called
where you kind of
subdue the guy's
submission hold
you know
and Daniel Perry
then just Penny! Because Perry was the guy austin who was approached by the guy with a
rifle and shot at him yeah so there's perry penny and but this is it uh that's masculinity there are
people uh many men who complain that men are disposable and it's like absolutely not but but
technically yes it is not not disposable as a whole, but as individuals.
The question is, would anyone disagree?
Is it better that Penny, knowing the consequences of what would happen to him,
moved to save those people?
Or should he have just stood back and said, I don't want to go to jail, let him suffer?
Being a man is when you run into battle that's right to fight for what
you believe in and save everything you love and hold dear knowing you may never come home it's
running into a burning building knowing that this could be the end for you but it all goes back to
uh the the it's biology evolutionary biology creates the gender roles uh if you have 100
men and 100 women in a society
and 99 women die, that's it, you're done.
Your tribe ceases to exist.
You cannot have more babies.
If 99 men die, you will be in trouble,
but you might be okay.
There could be some inbreeding challenges
in a future generation.
We get past it.
But it's still not even that bad.
It's not good, but it's still not even that bad it's not good but it's not that it's not as bad
as having one woman who can only have a baby every nine months when you have a hundred women and one
guy that guy's got to work really hard eat a lot of avocado yeah he's a nick canoning out you know
but mathematically you can recover from that if if all of your men die and that's that's that that's the reality that men can run
into battle and sacrifice themselves and your civilization can survive because of it but if
women sacrifice themselves your society is over there's even that phenomenon where like a bunch
of men are born after war you know but we do have a super chance we went we went a little long let's
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I don't understand how to use it,
but they have so much going on there.
It's like a little city.
It's a whole city.
They have everything.
And I want to make it a point to keep shouting
everything that the community is doing out
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hey, if you sign up to become a member,
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It's like, well, actually join the Discord
and there's a lot of stuff you can do.
And all the members are building things.
And it's amazing.
There's a pre-show.
There's an after show.
There's various chats on different subjects.
I think there's even like a women's Bible study.
Like they've got all kinds of, I'm pretty sure I could be wrong.
Like they do everything.
And I think this is cool.
And you'll love this one.
We're opening a coffee shop.
And we're going to be doing what's called Saturday morning cartoons.
Oh, really?
Saturday morning, we're going to play family approved cartoons, educational stuff.
Depending on the age of the kids, on average, it'll range from like, you know, very simple.
Are you making the cartoons yourself?
No, but we could theoretically use Daily Wire.
They have a chip chiller.
Yeah.
And then there's Tuttle Twins.
Yes. theoretically use daily wire they have a chip chiller program yeah and then there's total twins yes and uh what we do is we're going to bring catering breakfast maybe like 7 a.m saturday
mornings and the idea is that parents can come with their kids hang out have breakfast everybody
eats the kids can play with other kids and socialize and the parents can meet other parents
in the neighborhood and so it's a it's a uh it's trying to create like half of what church was for people to build community and meet their neighbors.
I've been studying you, Tim Pool.
Oh, have you?
Yeah, I have.
I had a good friend of mine, a young 15-year-old named Titus, who's a huge fan of yours, do some reconnaissance and put together a rap sheet for me.
He put that together so you knew that already?
No, he gave me all the other stuff.
But I've been listening to your shows and i love the idea of your franchise not franchise
coffee shops and i love the idea of the community and i love the idea of the alternative culture
that you're building and i just think it's great well it's great we uh i i my goal right now the
mission is to create the public square yeah and that is anti-time square time square was named
for i think it was times of the world the new york times basically this it's elite as they come the public square. And that is anti-Time Square. Time Square was named for,
I think it was Times of the World,
the New York Times basically.
It's elite as they come.
The big owners of this big building and they control,
they get the name of the space.
And now it's this big commercial multi-billion dollar thing.
We wanna create the anti-Time Square.
And it's these business, so I'm looking at,
so it was Ian's idea.
He was like, we should call it
the public square and i'm like let me ask public square how they think of like what they think
about they're super excited yeah i'm like someone on twitter actually mentioned that that wasn't my
idea yeah and so uh i'm trying to set up a meeting with them i'm like imagine there's just this
downtown in a small town in west virginia where you've got cousin t's diner papa jack's pizza
shack casper coffee you got a myPillow store. Insert any-
A digital billboard.
We got to get a big digital billboard.
Well, I don't know.
Public Square, we'll just run Public Square ads on it.
We can get a billboard somewhere
and try and figure out how to do that.
I bet it's so cheap now.
But there's laws as to what we,
like, here's the thing.
We don't want to actually make Times Square.
It's gross.
We want a place for community to be built and
the people that there are family legacy businesses in Martinsburg and they're worried about what's
happening with the city. They're like, you know, okay. So my pitch is if we are to come in and set
up these businesses, it must be that the existing businesses that are generational family businesses are protected and effectively where need be subsidized and i think that's actually a big draw so when you come
to this place and you're like i want to go to cousin t's diner next door is a third or fourth
generation you know tailor shop or something we should start working on a parking deck too
parking parking because if it gets it will get popular well we don't want to hinder the parking i mean we got it we we we we we have plans but again underground parking the goal
is to make it popular but not overrun like times square we like it it still needs to be
to a lower degree but meaningful so we're going to be doing the planning for this
but imagine a parallel economy, small town Times Square.
That's what I'm hoping for.
With a monorail.
That's my dream.
Just one.
All right.
We'll grab some more.
Waffle Sensei says, yes, Bobby Biden banged his brother's widow.
But in his defense, his dad married the babysitter when their mom died.
She was the babysitter?
Jill Biden was?
No, Jill was a doctor.
I've heard mixed stories about this.
Jill was not a doctor.
She just plays one on media. No's she has her educational doctorate and i heard the story that he like saw jill biden's picture while waiting for the train she had done like some
small town modeling and he saw her whatever and that's that's how they met and then other people
have said this babysitter thing but i don't know if that's true uh she did i mean i think they did get married they got married at the uh chapel at the un in in uh new york which i think
is super weird why would you get married there if you're from delaware yeah indeed it's a sacred
space yeah i mean i do think you know we were talking a little earlier about like losing parent
versus if you're if your family is divorced and uh i think it's always complicated
to bring a step parent into any any situation but especially in that scenario when they're so young
and the media will allude occasionally to tension between uh jill and hunter or jill and i don't
know if she has tension with her daughter actually but uh it's not an easy thing although i will say
i think it is easier when you your parents aren't divorced because there is less uh feeling you need to be the loyalty yeah i know yeah yeah yeah no blended
families are really tough they're very complicated yeah is this something that you get a lot of
questions about with your because i assume if your uh kids are growing up in a liberal city i mean
kids everywhere deal with friends who are whose parents are divorced well we deal with it a lot
in our work because we talk about the importance of
biology in the parent-child relationship and how complicated it is and honestly,
how there really is no alternative family structure that involves unrelated adults that
increases the likelihood a child is going to be safe, loved, thriving.
The, there are fantastic, heroic individual exceptions, but the addition of an unrelated mother or father figure in the child's life will always diminish child outcomes.
Wow.
I saw something about abuse, physical abuse in the home and how a lot of it correlates with an un-blood related by blood parent, like step-parent.
Stepfather, live-in boyfriend.
Yeah.
Statistically, the most dangerous place a child can find themselves is in the home of an unrelated man left to care for the child himself. So
likely mother's boyfriend, without a doubt, unquestioning. There is no negotiation about
that. All right. Let's grab some more. We got Citizen Seven says, Tim, the most egregious lie
Joe Biden has ever told and told repeatedly was that his son, Beau Biden, was killed in Iraq.
The guy's a monster.
Yep, he's a piece of garbage.
For those that are super chatting,
asking about last night's episode,
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Easiest way to find it, iTunes, Spotify, et cetera.
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YouTube didn't take it down,
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So it is what it is.
All right.
Let's grab some more super chats.
What do we got?
Terrence Max says, my mom has Alzheimer's.
One of the key features of that is total denial.
She refused to acknowledge her decline and insisted she could do everything just as well as in her 30s.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
It's hard.
It's hard parenting your parents i have a friend whose dad was a very
serious libertarian and he's has alzheimer now and she actually finds that to be challenging
because you know there's obviously things he doesn't understand but they'll say things and
he'll say i have rights you know i have freedoms you can't take this away from me and it's very
weird to argue someone with dementia who apparently is also a libertarian
because they're not happy about it.
They have rights.
Don't kill me.
I would not say Alzheimer's has a cure according to science, but there are studies where THC
will consume and inhibit the formation of the amyloid plaque.
I don't like any of that stuff because there's a million and one things and there's a bunch
of different articles and everyone's always making claims about it.
Check it out.
Sciencealert.com, THC, Alzheimer's. You you'll find lots of connections how about just talk to a doctor
and don't listen to podcasts because they'll give you pills i'm telling you other ways but there are
ways but this is like dude and and i read from some hippie website about you know tree bark has
things in it and then people go to burning man i'm not i'm not a fan of i'm not a fan of that
anyway let's uh read this we got the woodsman 1983 says the secret service most likely wouldn't
allow anyone near joe except medical medical professionals if they did and something went wrong
secret service would be responsible i what i find entertaining about my hypothetical conspiracy
theory is that people are assuming that if the deep state orchestrated a hoax to prop up gavin
newsom the secret service would be like oh gee, gee golly, we're going to have to adhere
because we're not part of this plan.
Like, I am literally saying,
in the conspiratorial world
of the intelligence agencies
colluding on a hoax to prop up Gavin Newsom,
the Secret Service will not stop him
from engaging in the hoax they planned themselves.
That's why I'm saying,
I don't think it's likely.
I'm just saying,
it's the perfect scenario for
them if they were capable of doing such a thing all right where are we at super jets
jason hudgenson says the state is the god of the statists yeah so the the issue i think that is
confusing for people when it comes to the issue of god is that they're using god to refer to beliefs instead of god but the problem with god it doesn't make you good just believing in god
does not make you good a lot of people do evil in the name of god because their god was better
or they thought it was better something okay demons believe in god and shudder so people people So the left may have some kind of social structure.
That's not God.
There is a difference between having a moral framework, believing in God, having a social framework, and no moral framework.
And so I'll describe it as this.
I view the right as a mix between people of a traditional american moral framework which overlaps with the
christian moral framework why because they're rooted in the same things there are people who
have drifted away from religion no longer believe in god but they still hold a a the american judeo
christian moral framework people like bill maher hurts the time. The left has no moral framework and no God at all.
They have social structures.
Those social structures, the facts don't matter.
All that matters is their social blob of chaos gains power and they adhere to it.
That's why they're there.
That's why Wemmick sin becomes the inoffensive word, but then becomes offensive the next
day.
There's no logic.
Logic is a material. All that matters is you are in a swarm of wasps and you don't go against the swarm.
That's it. That's because you're made for social connection. And even though this is sort of
amorphous and always changing, it does offer you the community that you literally need. It is one
of the most important human needs is the need for connection, the need for identity, collective identity.
And you're right, that's what church used to offer.
That is what right-oriented religion offers you as well.
But there is a faux religion that the left is offering
and they do give you holy days
and they do give you liturgies
and they do excommunicate
and they do give you a community.
And I agree that like wokeness is could
be referred to as a non-secular religion but i think it's better referred to as a cult because
there's no moral framework to what it is they believe if you go to christianity cults have
moral frameworks there's no holy book or anything but that but i'm not saying cults don't i'm saying
religions do right so so religions have the faith structures and tenets that exist beyond the living for the
most part i think it's fair to say uh christians overwhelmingly there there's you know different
versions of the bible whatever but there is christ the left it could change tomorrow we have no idea
uh let me let me read this super chat it's a good example bacon nation says tim is wrong that there
is no centralized structure to the woke.
They are morally compelled to support any underdog, Palestine, racial minorities, Ukraine,
it explains it all.
No, it doesn't.
Walmart and Amazon are not minorities, are not underdogs.
Joe Biden and the Democrat and deep state are not underdogs.
They will adhere to whatever it is the tribe dictates.
That's why when Oliver Anthony's song came out and it was a general blue collar lament,
they attacked him for it.
Why?
Because conservatives liked it.
That's it.
The only thing they have is
we hate what the right likes.
We love what the right hates.
Whereas people on the right will debate
and argue about these issues.
Seamus Coughlin and I will have a discussion
about the limits of abortion
and we will disagree.
And we are friends and we get along. The left says, don't know, don't care.
I just hate you. That's it. Now you can argue that there are, but Tim, there are a bunch of liberals that don't think that way. Right. That's called the banality of evil. You know that most
of them have no idea that Joe Biden did the quid pro quo. They don't pay attention to the stuff.
They made the argument during COVID that the Constitution has limitations and public health is more important than the Constitution. And now
you're seeing many of these same people come out and be like, there is no public health exception
to the Constitution because they know that the governor's move in New Mexico was bad politically.
If it helps their politics, they agree with it. If it hurts them politically,
they disagree with it. There is no central structure to it.
It is what the other guy said, right? Their God god is the state and something has to be your god it's
not it's not the state they don't have a god they don't go they burn down they burn right a hundred
plus antifa go and fire bomb buildings and trucks and they occupy a government facility it is not
even the state there are there are elements of the state they adhere to it's just
a swarm of wasps that overlap that's right because antifa is anarchy right that's no they're not
anarchy they they don't want any government involvement don't want any government power
they want that's not true at all antifa are communists antifa action is comes from the german
the militant wing of the german communist party anarchists are more like Michael Malice, who are anti-establishment
and believe in the individual. When you look at Antifa firebombing government buildings,
that is not because they want no government. It's because they want power and control.
So the state is not their God because they will destroy it.
But they're going to create their own state, right?
Sort of. It's just their cult. It's more like ISIS. The borders don't matter.
The belief structure doesn't matter.
All that matters is they are a swarm of wasps and you are in it. And if you turn against them in any way or are wrong, you you apologize and stay with the swarm.
Of course, correct. Or you are out. So that's really.
So you have all of. So first we have intersectional feminism.
Then we have critical race theory that we have critical race theory. Then we have critical gender theory.
It just keeps changing whatever it is their focus is randomly.
They come out and they say, why is the right so concerned about child sex change operations?
And it's like, because you are pushing it and defending it.
They say that these things don't happen all that often.
Listen, if a drag show happens where they let children come in, and this is like sex
clownery, I think it's how you like it's clown makeup and it's sexualized.
Yeah, no, the conservatives aren't saying it's the end of the world.
It's the apocalypse saying, hey, I don't think you should do that.
And then all of a sudden, the the machine of the left for no reason comes out and defends these books like genderqueer.
And this book is gay.
We get people in here like the woman from Majority Report
who cannot, cannot reject this book.
I say, hey, they shouldn't bring books into schools
that show pornographic depictions
and teach kids how to do these things.
And they're like, I think it's a good thing.
And I'm like, there's no logic, none whatsoever.
It's whatever you are, we are the opposite.
It's like, it's just like an evil mirror version.
They attack the state.
They burn down police stations. They attack the White white house then they defend the state when the state
goes after their enemies it's not for the state is not against the state it is not for corporations
or against corporations they hate a corporation they hate big pharma they complain about big pharma
when it comes to the price of medicine but then all of a sudden the vaccines come out and they're
cheering and singing their praises well not when donald trump had them only when joe biden came exactly a really great point donald trump says we're gonna
get the vaccines out and they all come out and say no it's wrong and then all of a sudden one day
like a switch they all say actually that was so weird because the democrat governors came out and
said it's going to be mandated and they all went oh are we doing this thing now we will do thing
it doesn't matter if it's a state it just matters if it is their core group but that's my point being called trump juice and then everyone had trump juice in their veins
like two weeks later and so i tweeted thank you for letting trump put his vaccine inside you trump
is inside you forever now and it'll never never go away i wish that that that's ultimately like
i i there is no there is nothing that exists on the left in terms of a cohesive structure it is just the
antithesis of civilization it is a chaotic and destructive force that consumes and burns like
fire there's a lot of short order thinking probably all over the place in any but with
an illegal immigration i noticed it with the immigration because i think people are like the
more if we bring more people then we'll have more community but that's not how communities work you
can't just stick 30 people in the room and expect that we all know each
other.
There is so much more to culture than that.
And community also,
they're not thinking we'll have more community.
They're thinking we'll have more people who will tip the scales in our
favor.
They'll influence a census census data.
So we potentially could have more control of certain areas and maybe we'll
eventually get more voters.
Although probably not.
Yeah.
I mean,
you can look like Sweden,
like they didn't,
they didn't actually have any of the people that were coming into the
country integrate into actual Swedish society.
And they have these separate societies within Sweden.
Did you see, I want to, I want to, I want to read this from Doug Blask.
He says, you've called them a cult numerous times.
What do they worship?
Oh, I love this.
What does it mean to be woke?
Wokeness is defined as the, as adhering to the liberal social structure the liberal social social
structure is amorphous but that's just about it they're they're and i shouldn't even say liberal
i should say the political the political and cultural view of what liberal is you get all
these people trying to find woke and they're like wokeness is when they you know go to schools and
do this and like wokeness is when they make all the characters not white and i'm like, wokeness is when they, you know, go to schools and do this. And like, wokeness is when they make all the characters not white.
And I'm like, none of that is true.
It changes from day all the time.
It goes backwards and forwards.
But for some reason, it is always just destructive to the structure of the United States.
I view wokeness as very simply the political cultural culture war left, as we would describe
it, is fire and the constitutional republic
is on fire so you're not going to sit there and go but what does the fire want it's just
burning things down it is spreading and consuming and starting more fires but fire is actually about
the carpet no lots of things can burn and all that's going to happen is it's going to keep
burning we must put the fire out we must we must stop the radical ideology of blind zealotry and restore the constitutional republic
yeah there we go yeah there you go solved problem solved everybody agrees everyone go home now but
but i i think the issue is i've been seeing this since the beginning of the culture war everyone's
saying that the culture war is one thing or another my favorite is did you i i remember
a speech given by a prominent conservative the culture war is nationalism versus globalism and
i'm like no it isn't you you go talk to half these liberals they have no idea what you're talking
about there's not even a that's not even a concept to them then i've heard it's authoritarian versus
libert versus libertarian and i'm like no it's it to a large degree perhaps but there are certain
things the right absolutely agrees
must be uh must be within the authority of the government and then there's certain things the
left thinks the the government should have no authority on it is it is just simply the left
tends to do things that are part of the left it is it is circular logic it is a group of people
you know what it is they're ants? They create pheromone trails.
Oh, yeah.
And you can do a trick where, or a phenomenon occurs where if the ants make a circle.
Death march.
Yeah, death march.
Where all the ants will walk in a circle because the pheromones keep pointing.
They don't realize.
And then eventually they just run until they die.
They literally.
I view the left as something akin to that.
They're all just following each other to nowhere.
Yeah.
I mean, it makes sense because all of like, they're all of like the idea of the core ideas.
And I'm not saying it's all from Marx.
It's just like the core idea of saying everything needs to be deconstructed.
Everything needs to be postmodern.
Everything is postmodernism.
Everything gets taken apart, taken apart.
You get taken apart.
No true Scotsman.
It just kind of continues to fall apart.
It's like entropy.
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This is great.
And you're great.
I mean, let me just say, like, I've been listening to some of your culture war issues and your IRLs.
And you're a good host.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah. I listen to a lot of podcasts and you do a good job of like pulling everybody
in and keeping things moving when needed and i thought you handled yourself really well oh thank
you i appreciate it well like specifically you had that culture war one about gamer gate which
i didn't know anything about and the woman that was on she didn't even want to talk about gamer
gate she just wanted to like bring up every single thing that you've said anyway
I just want to say good job
you're navigating it well and I understand
I mean I didn't know a lot about you before this but
I've got some people in my life that love
you and respect you and I love and
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people following you so that's what I have to say
appreciate it you have a twitter account?
oh yeah tell us about your organization
is that what that was supposed to be?
No, it was a mandatory compliment.
But thank you for shouting me out.
Totally.
No, I just, I really like it.
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