Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #867 Democrat Senator INDICTED On Bribery Charges, Dem Mayor QUITS, Joins GOP w/Vince Dao

Episode Date: September 23, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Kellen join Vince Dao to discuss a democratic senator being indicted on bribery charges, the Mayor of Dallas quitting the Democrat party to join the Republicans, & why global elites ...are pushing for WW3. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Senator Bob Menendez. He's a Democrat. He has just been indicted on bribery charges for accepting gold bars. This is going to be an interesting story because this dude's been he's been I think he's been criminally charged before. He's been let's just say he's been on the wrong side of the law in the past. And here we go again. I don't think anyone's surprised to hear this news, it's gonna have a tremendous impact on the senate i'm wondering what this will mean for new jersey and for the balance of power in the senate and then of course we have that we have a the democrat mayor of
Starting point is 00:00:34 dallas switches to the republican party this is going to be really interesting what we see moving forward in 2024 of course we've been seeing a lot of interesting things. There's not necessarily any evidence of direct correlation, but when you see someone in a Democrat city say outright, we need Republicans, I'm switching, that's it. I think 2024 is going to get really interesting in terms of people are insane. There's going to be prosecutions. There's going to be conflict, but we're going to see weird stories in the press. And well, may you live in interesting times. Before we get started with the news, my friends, head over to TimCast.com, click TimCast IRLXMiami, and pick up your tickets to come see us in Miami, October 6th, with Patrick Bet-David, James O'Keefe, Matt Gaetz,
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Starting point is 00:02:38 These guys are doing amazing things in building infrastructure so that we can't get banned or cancelled. Not impervious, but more resilient. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Vince Dow. Good to see everyone. Yeah, my name is Vince Dow. I'm a Gen Z conservative content creator, and you may recognize me from that one vice panel
Starting point is 00:03:00 where the other Asians were going crazy, and i just was very calm and everyone has seen that not everyone but a lot of people in the sector have seen that so if you've seen that that's of course me and i'm you know great to be here and good to be with you tim of course right on thanks for hanging out we got phil labonte hello everybody my name is phil labonte lead singer of all that remains a failed musician guy anti-communist and counter-revolutionary a communist a communist called you a failed musician is his on a communist he's a socialist ah it's the same garbage you know socialism this the the end goal of socialism is communism said lennon uh this is like uh dude yeah so hassan was uh doing a podcast and he said phil was a failed musician and it's like
Starting point is 00:03:40 bro if you're that desperate and that's the only move you have to make against someone because you don't have an argument to say that a platinum recording artist who just opened for Metallica has failed. I'm like, damn, what's success? Apparently, it's quitting the leftovers is success. That's what I hear. So that's what I hear. I don't know for sure, but I hear that he was leaving the leftovers. But I mean, look, Ethan Klein gave him the business.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And that was the thing that i was poking at him about and then the very next uh the very how do you get destroyed by ethan klein i mean it was it was well he asked you questions about uh communist china and you're afraid of your chat that's he's terrified of his chat and he doesn't want to say anything to uh anti-china so you know and then the whole next episode, I watched it just recently. They just, Ethan and Hassan are just, or Ethan's picking Hassan apart.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Wow. Yeah, Hassan's socialism is not strong. Wow. Well, Ian's here. Hey, buddy, what's up? Ian Crossland. I'd love to get Hassan in the house. We've been meaning to have him on anyway,
Starting point is 00:04:39 so maybe now's a good time. Get this all hashed out face-to-face. See if we can actually get him to play some music together good to see events well he of course is always welcome i just really don't see that as being a reality that'd be great it would be cool to get him here i mean he was the bro bible guy like i feel like somewhere deep down there's you can have a real conversation but if someone's if someone's built their career off making money and their whole plan is like what kind of content can i do to make money
Starting point is 00:05:04 there's apparently some scandal involving dylan mulvaney related to this like a video came out but we've talked about it before where if you look at dylan's early content it's like throwing spaghetti through the wall and seeing what sticks yeah you know these people aren't going to betray an ideology when the whole purpose of their ideology is to make money yeah you know but anyway and i hate the term grifter but i've seen hasan just sit there and he'll react to stuff and basically just eats food the whole time, says a couple comments, and it sells because it's reaction content. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:31 He's a big boy. It takes a lot of money to do that. I mean, the real secret is for a lot of these island communities, it's a place to hang out. Exactly. Exactly. Well, let's jump into the news. Ladies and gentlemen, Bob Menendez has been charged with accepting gold bar bribes hey man i gotta say if you're gonna take bribes gold bars is the way to do it smart so uh new
Starting point is 00:05:49 jersey senator bob menendez has been indicted for bribery according to a statement from the united states attorney for the southern district of new york menendez is currently the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee the democrat and his wife nadine have been under federal investigation since 2022 the couple is allegedly believed to have taken $400,000 worth of gold bars from New Jersey developer and former bank chairman Fred Diabas. How do you pronounce it? Diabas? And his associates, Waelhana and Jose Uribe. In exchange, Menendez reportedly agreed to use his official influence to sway the Justice Department, which had accused Diabas. I don't know how to pronounce that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Diabas? I don't know. Diabas? of bank crimes newly unsealed documents filed in new york accused menendez and his wife of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes in exchange freezing menendez's power and influence as a senator to seek protect and enrich hannah how do you pronounce that you're aribe aribe aribe yeah something like that it looks like and diabetes diabetes says that there's a little um typo there it says dai instead of dia to the benefit of the arab republic of egypt wow well the first thing i'm going to say is the federal government especially the southern district of new york gets zero benefit of the debt from me and i gotta say i i i am biased against you know individuals like menendez and many
Starting point is 00:07:08 democrats but i will tell you this i am more biased against the southern district of new york for the things they've done aren't they the ones that have been going after the project veritas maybe i'm wrong about that but i know that they're they're going after trump not a fan of these guys and so i will actually say you know I'll give Menendez the benefit of the doubt. Let's let's hear what hear what they have to say, first and foremost, no matter who someone is innocent until proven guilty. But I am not going to jump on throwing Menendez under the bus simply because he's a Democrat. I do not trust SDNY. I do not trust federal prosecutors. I think the moment the feds tried the and new york goes after trump for political reasons
Starting point is 00:07:45 anything they do is tainted no matter what so maybe they want to go after menendez fine maybe it benefits republicans in the long run sure whatever don't care these people are evil and i don't trust them do you guys have a gold sponsor because if you do this would be a great time you know hey the politicians are trying to on the podcast take the gold okay so what what do you think you should be doing now? But yeah, I mean, it's interesting. There probably has to be a reason they're going after him. I'd have to imagine.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I mean, you've seen the same thing. You said Southern District of New York, right? You kind of saw how the political system in New York went after Andrew Cuomo, one of their own, because, you know, clearly something there fell out of favor. So I really wonder what the backstory is here, because I couldn't imagine they're just going to go after him just because oh he's a corrupt politician right so there's probably something more to the story i would have to imagine all menendez has to do right now is put out a press conference have a press conference and say that one week ago he began drafting a resolution for the senate to end the persecution and prosecution of donald trump because it was disruptive to our democracy and then all of a sudden he's being indicted and just let her rip
Starting point is 00:08:49 interesting because i mean because look the democrats are in the seat of power yeah what could he say right now in favor of democrats that would get democrats nothing if he came out and said i hate donald trump please they'd be like too bad we don't care yeah but if he came out and was like i wanted to i i i was arguing to end the prosecution of trump because this is not the way the democratic party should be operating that would actually earn him some benefit people he would get political tribalists being like we'll let you slide on this one keep keep talking i don't i don't really have a take uh other than you know if you can get gold bars get them i'm very glad you started off the segment talking about the presumption of innocence. That's a real important part of the next 20 or 30 years of American livelihood.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah, but the problem is we we be good people. So I will I have no problem saying like, I don't know what this guy was involved in, but you better prove it before I'm willing to throw someone in jail or whatever. Every day beyond. But the problem is the Democrats don't extend that in the other direction. No. So at this point, is it like, well, you know what? You stick that label on your name and you get no favors from me. No, I think that's what the deep power wants is for us to forego rule of law and just start going at each other.
Starting point is 00:09:59 They're frothing, waiting for you to tear yourself apart. But they're using the law to go. I don't see how you get to foregoing the rule of law like if you are pro if he's being prosecuted by new york they're you know they're using the law against him now granted i mean it looks like it doesn't look good it looks it looks like he actually did this stuff but that being said you should be innocent until proven guilty you know or you should be treated that way but it's not like it's not like they're after like it's
Starting point is 00:10:29 not like there's there's an attempt to get around the law or circumvent the law except for on his case his case i don't see that that it's a right left thing is what i guess is what i'm getting here's the thing is that i don't even want to use the term democrats i think it's more so there's a lot of people in the uniparty who have gotten away with genuine legitimate crimes that you know no one ever indicted no one ever tried to even investigate so i do think to some degree considering what they're doing to trump and you know a lot of people on our side for very frivolous reasons very often i do think in the future if we ever want to kind of balance out the playing field i do think you're gonna have to at some point try to hold the other side or the uniparty i should say really more so accountable
Starting point is 00:11:10 for the things that they're just straight up getting away with that are real crimes so i'm not saying to obviously fabricate crimes or try to you know just go after people to go after them but i think you've seen them turn a blind eye to a lot of uh establishment politicians over the years and i think to balance out the situation now i think you know just i don't i just don't know if i'll trust any of them no matter what yeah absolutely it's just none of it none of it look and it's not just probably not going to happen but it's just you know in in theory they ignore epstein right all of them do not and and the problem i have is that for a lot of these powerful, corrupt individuals that we know about, any prosecutor could have gone after them. Absolutely. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:11:49 There is justification for when it comes to these politicians and high-profile individuals, they do work in the jurisdictions all across the country. There are grounds for it. That's why New York is going after Trump. They'll find a way. But Republicans don't do i was thinking last night like if you um tear open an evil system and you rip back the curtain and show everyone how evil it is you're you're you're providing a threat for the system stability even if it's evil if you expose it it can disrupt and then the system could fall apart so what will happen is people will try
Starting point is 00:12:21 and just show you a little bit of it at a time, but that's like poking a needle into a balloon and trying to, to stop it from popping, trying to hold it tight. And it's like, once evil gets exposed a little, the rest of it just comes pouring out and like trying to suppress people's awareness of it is almost doing more damage to the system than just letting it,
Starting point is 00:12:39 you know, building up. Yeah. That's what it feels like. There is a, there is a postule full of pus on the United States that they just keep slapping band-aids over, and it just keeps getting bigger and worse. Yeah. And when this thing pops, oh, it's going to suck.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But, man, you can't just keep thinking, like, this is what they do in terms of the economy, as we were talking about with debt and war. And one of the theories, there is a theory, I could call it a conspiracy. I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory or hypothesis, that the purpose of the stimulus during covid was not really covid it was hey here's our chance to flood the flood the economy with with printed money so that we can pay down the debt and kick the can down the road for a couple more years because a monetary system which produces more debt than currency eventually collapses. I mean, well, that's something that that Austrians and libertarians and even fiscal conservatives have been talking about. I mean, we are in a new paradigm now, considering the fact that the government and the Federal Reserve is working under a modern monetary theory.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Like, so it's MMT all the way. the idea that they're taxing to pay for things that's something that people should just put out of their heads the point of taxes is to control inflation that's it just to take money from people they're going to use they're going to print up the money that they that they you know whatever they need to do whatever they whatever uh program they want whatever they need they just print just print it. The fact that the federal government collects taxes means that the dollar has a value because you have to get dollars to pay those taxes. They use taxes and interest rates to control inflation. There is nothing backing it. The only value that comes from your dollar is from the demand
Starting point is 00:14:20 for taxes. So we have to get away, or people should try to get away from the idea that taxes so the we have to get away or people should try to get away from the idea that we are using taxes to pay for projects and the the argument against mmt is it gives the government unlimited authority to print money and do whatever they want with finances outside of of the let me let me let me read some of this real quick from nbc just to give some context apparently his wife is also being charged and they say that federal agents said they discovered many of the items many of these items were when they executed search warrants in the couple's home they found more than 480 000 in cash much of it stuffed into envelopes and hidden in
Starting point is 00:14:57 clothing closets and a safe including jackets bearing the senator's name that were hanging in his closet as well as more than 70 000 in nadine's safe deposit box the indictment alleges i mean this is pretty this is pretty wild uh whose money was he holding they got they got photos yeah of like a sweater let me let me pull this up because i was just reading it on my phone let me pull it up is there i wanted to ask you phil do you know of any historical examples of a nation or an empire being in the level of debt that we are right now. So this is kind of like uncharted territory. No, and also MMT is still a fairly new theory.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah. So did you guys understand that? Yeah, yeah. I wanted to comment really quickly on Tim's quote unquote conspiracy theory. It's funny. We talk about the great reset living in pods and very often the natural reaction is people would never accept that. But that is the thing is that when everything becomes unaffordable, when can't afford a home where are you going to live you can't afford food
Starting point is 00:15:48 you know what what's what's the next reaction to that so if it all lined up and that was the purpose of covid to basically destroy the current order and traditional american way of life in so that way it gets worse and worse and now eventually people 10 years from now will basically just accept a quasi great reset i think it's uh interesting to say the least right i i want to i we got this picture pulled up and it is it's it's a decent amount of money i mean let me look what it's probably a couple grand serious question though for like for what reason it's honest question i'm not saying i'm not it's not rhetorical honest question for what purpose would someone have five to ten thousand dollars and hundred dollar bills in an envelope hidden in a just like stuffed in the
Starting point is 00:16:30 pocket in a closet in a sweater it's not his that's what i that's my initial thought is whose money is this and why is he holding on to it i think he's a scapegoat i think they're throwing him under the rug saying look the doj plays fair us. I mean, it could be his money because if he is taking bribes, that's what makes sense. He doesn't want a paper trail. Possibly. He does hard paper. But we live in a world of crypto. Like, I think it's very.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Crypto's not safe. Yeah, crypto. They got AI that can track all that stuff. This guy's been hard on crypto, actually. Monero, maybe Zcash. This guy was notoriously pushing hard against one of the crypto companies. It was a year ago. I read that earlier today, and I didn't dig into how bad it was.
Starting point is 00:17:11 But it's like harmonious that this guy who's anti-crypto is taking bribes. So who's the real villain in this situation? Look at these gold bars. Wow. Gold bars. What do you do with gold bars? Put them in a safe. Yo, look at these gold bars. Wow. Gold bars? What do you do with gold bars? Put them in a safe. It says Swiss Bank Corporation. I know, but like, look, man,
Starting point is 00:17:32 I know gold is valuable, but how are you going to move this amount of money? What's your plan? If you're a regular person, and you're like, I would like to have a hedge or a hard asset or whatever, it's like, I totally get it totally get buying gold i have a little bit i have most more silver than gold but no makes sense but if you're taking bribes what are you gonna do with
Starting point is 00:17:53 it there was a bunch in lots of envelopes different envelopes that makes me think that they're gonna traffic them they're gonna start trafficking cash off-site they may have already started trafficking cash off-site if they're in little envelopes well i mean you know what's kind of funny about this though is this is a very old school new york new jersey political scandal he has a bunch of cash money gold bars mafia very aesthetic going there uh you know it kind of amuses me to tell you the truth it's an old school political breaking bad right you know right yeah that's funny oh yeah so this is uh menendez was going hard on venezuela's uh talk of involving utilizing crypto okay now i i got
Starting point is 00:18:35 i just gotta say right here nah this doesn't move move the needle for me i mean he's got a couple grand in 50s he's got 20s right there and it looks like it might be like let's say 1400 1400 maybe in 20s if they're super rich having like a thousand bucks in a pocket somewhere a couple like i'm okay i i can understand that right for whatever but that stack of hundreds i'm like for what for what purpose well it's now the in the envelopes because if a drug dealer has like a big block of weed that's one thing but if they have a bunch of little baggies of it all split up that's intent to sell that's intent to move basically is i mean how rich is this guy what's the net worth i don't know i'm not i'm not really i don't really buy that he was
Starting point is 00:19:22 attempting to move the money. I think he was just sitting on it. Honestly, I have a feeling, you know, if you're, if you've got gold bars, like what, what is, what does move mean to you? Give it to his friends, send it overseas. I'm not sure. Put it in a pocket every time, every week. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Hold on. We got open secrets.org saying that his net worth as of 2018 was $541,000. Ain't no way. Ain't no way someone whose net worth is just a half a mil is dropping 510K in the coat pocket and ignoring it. If this dude was worth a couple mil, I'd be like, maybe he was out partying with the boys at a bar. He took out a bunch of cash. Maybe he was doing Vegas or whatever. i don't know there's there's i mean you know there's reasons but not a dude who's worth this and his assets are apparently his house
Starting point is 00:20:13 so he's worth half a million dollars but 375 is his house and then he makes 175 000 a year that is weird for him to be worth so little money, honestly. I can't believe this, right? He's a New York... They've got to file their disclosures, though. Okay, hold on here. I don't know what CA Club India... It says his net worth is $18 million. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:35 But I don't know which one's real. I know that he's got to... Well, the Open Secrets was 2018, right? Right, it was a while ago. I mean, wow. Being in government makes you a lot of money, apparently. According to what is this, wealthypersons.com... secrets was 2018 right so right it was a while ago change yeah i mean wow being uh being in government makes you a lot of money apparently you know according to what is wealthypersons.com six bob menendez googled how much is one kilo of gold worth around the time his wife accepted
Starting point is 00:20:53 alleged bribes wow i google that uh probably once a week to check on the price and you guys know that um what if his daughter is an msnbc host and it's all his wife imagine your that his daughter is an MSNBC host. And it's all his wife. Imagine your wife getting... His daughter is a host on MSNBC, I'm pretty sure. Really? Yeah. Daughter. Do you guys know who gave the bribe, alleged bribe? Does it say in the article?
Starting point is 00:21:17 It doesn't. I don't think so. Bob Menendez's... Alicia? Let's see. Yeah, Alicia. Alicia Menendez's alicia let's see uh yeah uh alicia alicia menendez uh anchor for msnbc is she still i think uh she's she has hosted uh well i'm pretty sure she does stuff for them but you know is it any as any surprise to to to like it's it's one big happy family tree everybody you know, this is what they do.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah. Granted, I'll say it again, like innocent until proven guilty. You know what I mean? I don't care for this. They, they,
Starting point is 00:21:51 Bob Menendez Googling how much is a kilo of Goldworth doesn't prove that he took a bribe. Right. Like for all we know, his wife bought gold and they were like, we're going to get rid of this guy because he's not playing ball with us. Yeah. I don't, I don't trust Bob Menendez.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I mean, he's been accused of a lot of things before. And so I'm not given, I mean, first of all, for the most part, Democrats ain't getting the benefit of the doubt from me. Right. You know. Well, that's the thing is the system is so corrupt these days that it shouldn't be like this. But the minute I see them go after someone. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:17 The minute I see them go after someone, my first instinct isn't, okay, what did they do in terms of the crime? It's why are they going after him right and i think that's kind of a natural reaction we have in a lot of american life these days you know let's let's let's start by i want to jump to this story from cnn dallas mayor switches parties to join gop all right we just covered a story about a democrat being accused taking bribes being corrupt and uh i think for most of you who watch our show, you probably don't have a very favorable view of Democrats, nor the majority of the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But the Democrats, I widely view as corrupt tribalists who are just career politicians who are trying to extract what they can from the system. So here you have this guy. This is Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson responding to questions during a news conference. And there are two issues that are brought up because of this. Let me read a little bit. Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson announced Friday that he's switching parties and will serve as a Republican-affiliated mayor of the blue-leaning city. While the Dallas mayoral office is nonpartisan, Johnson previously served as a Democrat in the Texas legislature.
Starting point is 00:23:20 He slammed his former party in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal published Friday blaming Democratic policies for exacerbated crime and homelessness. Quote, the future of America's great urban centers depends on the willingness of the nation's mayors to champion law and order and practice fiscal conservatism. Our cities desperately need the genuine commitment to these principles as opposed to the inconsistent poll-driven commitment of many Democrats that has long been a defining characteristic of the gop so to clarify the mayoral position is not a partisan position so they usually don't say like the mayor's affiliation but he is he he was a democrat he ran you know in in in this style this affiliation now he's saying he is going to be joining the GOP and will be Republican affiliated as mayor. The question I have is, first, if someone is in a Democrat city as a high level politician and they're going to switch to the GOP, either they're saying I'm retiring or they believe this is their path to maintaining their position and serving their constituents secondly this is a black mayor in a democrat city saying
Starting point is 00:24:26 he's going to vote republican and we have more polling coming out from the wall street journal uh published in the wall street journal and several other outlets showing that trump is polling very very well among black and hispanic americans i'm wondering if this is indicative if this is a component of this as well if this is an another individual who is polled and it's outright saying no more democrat now a republican i have a feeling that this is an another individual who is polled and is outright saying no more democrat now a republican i have a feeling that this is that the conditions at the border are a significant factor in why the dallas mayor is switching sides i i can't see i can't imagine that the people of texas who are the most immediately affected by the the border crisis i can't see them saying oh
Starting point is 00:25:06 it's fine i can't see them saying oh it's no big deal these people that live in texas like they know they have friends that are in in the border region stuff like that i mean granted texas is a big state but still like these people are living with it every day and you see videos all the time of of caravans of people coming to the border i just read a a piece that said 300 there was a there was a a record that 300 000 people crossed the border or were uh detained or apprehended maybe is the best word uh 300 000 people in one month it's a record i mean the federal government is totally abdicated their responsibility with that of of securing the border the the clown administration that we have put kamala harris in charge and she hasn't done anything at all they tried to deal with the uh the the
Starting point is 00:25:57 dude uh what's his name not mendez um he was just on capitol hill talking to the uh talking to congress uh the head of homeland security either way talking to the, talking to Congress, the head of Homeland Security, either way, talking to him. There's talking about, about impeaching him. I think his name is Mayorkas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Talking about impeaching him. And I don't know if anything's been done, but he has not done his job. I think I, here's how I see it. There's that meme that I've brought up where it said, no one is trying to solve the problems. They're trying to get rich enough to where the problems don't affect them and i'm like
Starting point is 00:26:27 that's a great motto for the modern democratic party oh yeah help us get rich enough so that your problems are no longer our problems i wonder like the problem affecting you won't affect us is a better way to put it i wonder what this means for 2024 because obviously if you know anything about texas and the reason why people are scared it's quote-unquote going blue is two major population growths it's in austin and dallas right and so if you're starting to see like tim said as a possibility which is he's actually maybe doing it for a political reason because he believes that the city of dallas is going to become more right wing i could see that translating to the rest of the country too and i do think
Starting point is 00:27:04 you're not going to see democrats do as well in big cities as they did in 2020 because crime homelessness illegal immigration all of it's adding up so i wonder if there's something of an urban a new urban appeal for the republican party not to obviously win a majority of any of these cities but at least to crack you know i'm sure the democrats need a certain quota that way they can outnumber the rural areas of a state like texas or georgia or even michigan up in the midwest states like that so i wonder what it means for 2024 yeah i really do the toxic compassion route has failed them that's for sure like bring evs many people unlimited more more more more people more people more people and then all of a sudden you realize you're surrounded by
Starting point is 00:27:43 homeless people that that don't have food. And you know, it's interesting. I'm from Los Angeles. Most of the family, friends, and stuff we grew up with are Democrat. But I'm noticing a very real trend in the people I knew growing up now trending, I'd say, more independent, maybe moderate. Maybe some even just have flat out become Republicans because they're just seeing it's too expensive crime. You know, it's, it's dangerous homelessness everywhere. We just can't do this anymore. So like I said, I'm not going to sell anyone here a delusion that, oh my gosh, Republicans are going to suddenly flip LA or California. But like I said, in swing States,
Starting point is 00:28:20 where the big city is our problem, I think a few points off of popularity for the democrats could make the difference in one of these states you know in the presidential election i don't know if uh the immigration would be as heavy as it is without the internet i don't know if the internet's played a part in allowing this to happen or if it's just allowed us to see what's happening because i think if this had happened without an internet it would be happening without us knowing and then all of a sudden one day we'd wake up and there would be six 60 million people from foreign countries in our country we wouldn't know and they'd already be here yeah controlling things now we can kind of see it in real time and adjust and maybe help prevent a catastrophe yeah and i think people are willing to alter their political
Starting point is 00:28:59 parties at the very least if they feel like that might make a difference or maybe just sit home you know i think that's another issue you talk about, black turnout. I don't think Republicans are going to come close to winning a majority of the black vote, but I think a lot of these people who they normally bust to the polls and all of that in the inner cities might just say, I don't really care for this right now. You know what I mean? So I think you could see that too, just a drop off in turnout of their base, even if it's not for us. I think that's see that, too, just a drop off and turnout of their base, even if it's not for us.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Right. Right. I think that's actually what the polls show. Yeah. I should clarify. There are there are polls showing conservatives improving. But I think what you actually see when you look at the bigger picture is that this effectiveness. Yeah. Support for Democrats is way down and support Republicans a little bit. Right. So there are some people like I'm about for the other guy. But most people are just saying, I am not voting Democrat. There's no fuel. There's no fuel. Like people didn't vote for Biden.
Starting point is 00:29:50 They voted against Trump. Right. Right. He's not the president right now. The president's Biden. So if you're feeling like life sucks right now, you got to look at President Biden and be like, he's not the guy. Anybody but him.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So it may not be pro-Trump people, but they're just like, like you said, they might just stay home. They might not go out and vote. They're i can't vote for trump but i'm not voting for biden and think about all the people who you probably know people like this that say if it's trump versus biden i'm just going to leave that blank yeah that helps trump because trump has a base in biden doesn't less so so yeah we'll certainly not only has a base but he has disaffected liberals yeah he there are a lot of people who don't like trump who will vote for him because trump's personality issues and ego is nothing compared to biden's failures with the economy foreign policy failures eastern european war these are these are all just
Starting point is 00:30:38 apocalyptic failures for a president it's true it's and it's i mean it is possible that he and hunter joe biden and hunter biden got us into this war in the middle east obviously russia you mean ukraine yeah i called it the middle east it's near the middle east it's all kind of one area you know turkey is turkey the middle east it's right next the middle east of europe yeah um and it's like if they went there and did some correct if hunter went there and then got bribed to be go on an energy board for and they were and then biden just was like yeah let's make some money off this and then got bribed to be go on an energy board for brisma and they were and then biden just was like yeah let's make some money off this and then we got into a war like that's the most true maybe not treason maybe not treason but like what's selling out the country for sending the country into a war to make profit i think it would be treason but i guess treason is specifically
Starting point is 00:31:20 providing aid to a foreign adversary in time of war i think that i don't think that it's that personal like i don't think when it comes to the war in ukraine i think that there's a whole apparatus that is interested in seeing russia uh you know hurt and seeing uh well actually just mostly russia hurt i think the the support from ukraine comes from the united states saying it is better for our foreign policy to have a weaker russia so when russia decided they wanted to attack uk or invade Ukraine, the U.S. said, we will help Ukraine. We will keep feeding them arms.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And essentially, it's the same model that the U.S. used when the Russians were in Afghanistan. So you were feeding arms and ammunition and money to the Mujahideen, and they were fighting Russians. So that way the Russians would feel the same pain that the U.S. felt when the U.S. was in Vietnam fighting the VC and that was being funded by the Russians and the Chinese. This is the kind of thing that happens or has happened regularly since the end of World War II because the Russians and the United or the U.S and russia can't get into an actual confrontation themselves because it'll likely turn into a nuclear war these kind of uh military actions are horrible and you see you know war crimes are being posted on x every day i just saw one there's a dude trying to surrender to a drone and they keep dropping bombs on him because
Starting point is 00:32:43 well he's the bad guy well that's a war crime if he's trying to surrender and they keep dropping hand grenades on him to kill him that's a war crime and you see this stuff all the time and it's normal in these kind of uh well it's normal in war and it's it really does benefit the u.s strategically to have russia engaged in a war and have russia weakened by you know having a bunch of people die it's gotten so dark phil like i'll watch these videos and you see the people gathered around the tablet flying this drone and they're laughing because they're disconnected from the carnage and the chaos they're causing to be fair though if you if if someone invades the united states all bets are off sure you know if someone invades your country like war crimes are for like people
Starting point is 00:33:26 that are in like the u.s when they were in world war ii had to worry about war crimes when they were in france right nobody was looking at the french saying you're committing war crimes because you know you're cutting nazis heads off or whatever well the nazis invaded you know that's what happens and that's what tends to happen in war generally but it doesn't make it you know doesn't make it any less of a war crime well here's the thing it's interesting you say you know the u.s thinks it strategically helps us to be funding this war whatever but i would kind of make a counter argument to that which is in many ways we pushed russia and ukraine into this spot you kind of look at the history of the uh the minks accords and stuff over the years you know the united
Starting point is 00:34:03 states has stepped in repeatedly and told ukraine don't negotiate with russia you know they kept fanning the flames of this but then what has happened now as a consequence of that is russia now in the moment may look kind of stupid hey look their invasion isn't going so well haha but what's long term what's long term happening is russia is being back now into the corner of china and you know they're all together now and meeting and there's an alliance there it's obviously forming people say all that's inevitable because they're both authoritarians that's not true at all when you look at the history of russia and china there's a reason why they've actually been a little bit more isolated and putin's been nervous about going into china's hands even when they were both uh communist right
Starting point is 00:34:42 the soviet union and mao's china didn't even get along um and i think putin's been in this position the past few decades where he's not sure do i want to be western or eastern tries to play both sides we could have potentially if not an ally at least neutralized a very strong threat in having uh russia not on the side of china in isolating china but instead what we've done through the whole course of basically in many ways i would argue inciting this war and definitely feeling the flames of it is now long term we have a very powerful axis that we constructed ourselves and now we're going to have to fight at once and maybe they want it yeah maybe they want it they create they create a problem yeah that gives them a crisis that they can use to exploit and implement new policies, plans. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:35:27 But I'm going to just err on the side of stupidity over malice on this one. I agree. I think that the argument that a weak Russia makes a strong U.S. is flawed. And I would argue with any defense contractor, anyone in the administration, anyone who wants to talk. Because a weakened Russia becomes a desperate Russia. And a desperate Russia has and a desperate russia has nuclear weapons that's not good for american sovereignty a strong russia has nuclear weapons too though unless we are not concerned with their nuclear weapons for some reason maybe yeah that's
Starting point is 00:35:52 true and also we can russia seeks allies elsewhere and we don't want that doesn't make a strong america this is a little bit of a non-sequitur i heard that uh musk is contracting with the feds to build star shield or something uh which is essentially the iron dome in the u.s star shield i don't know if this is true i i it's it's a rumor that i heard so i don't i don't have any information on that's from a year ago so spacex unveils star shield a military variation of starlink satellites secure satellite networks digital iron dough okay so that's so then this is just an internet system? Oh, it's a security system.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Well, it's a security. Does that mean like laser defense? Well, I imagine it could be if you've got multiple satellites that are... It's just Starlink for the government. Okay. It's an isolated network so that it protects the government. Star Shield. Dude, defending your satellites.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I mean, in the near future, you'd have these things up there that can hit with bullets. I mean, the thing is, if you can get a a you know a constellation of satellites similar to starlink then you can identify you know uh missiles that are that are being shot from anywhere in the world you can pick them up as they're they're getting off the ground and the idea is hopefully you can shoot them down before they get over the u.s if you i mean they have big lasers that they put in c5as that can shoot down missiles and so if you can get them before they actually try to deliver their mervs or whatever that might be that might be part of so i mean this is low low low orbit satellite is the vehicle for these laser interception
Starting point is 00:37:20 systems so but how how would they collect and store enough power even with satellite to store enough power for a directed energy weapon is it's it's it's insane it's going to be like years of charging up i imagine that i can even hold it i imagine that they're just to identify and and and notify the the u.s that there is some kind of ground level something going on yeah when it takes off and then like i said you put a c5 in the air with a big uh chemical laser in it and they you know because you can scramble if it's got 30 minutes you can scramble a C5 in the air with a big chemical laser in it. And they, you know, because you can scramble. If it's got 30 minutes, you can scramble a C5 in 10. If you have them on standby, get them in the air and get them before they're.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I kind of feel like they probably just go the traditional Iron Dome or THAAD method, which is launching rockets at rockets. Should be or could be. I mean, maybe lasers is a last resort, but the range on them is not going to be strong enough. The range of the lasers? Yeah, I mean, by the time there's enough power on the laser, at least based on what we understand, the nuke is already in a very damaging radius of whatever the target is. But if they have these laser systems,
Starting point is 00:38:13 you know, strategically placed far outside of civilian or military areas, okay then, perhaps. But if we're talking about a MIRV from Russia, which is going to be in the stratosphere, I don't know, man. It's kind of plain to intercept it and hope that the laser mounted on, you know. That's what I think it is.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I know that they do. They have tested lasers on, you know, mounted in big cargo planes because they're massive and they take up a lot of space. And they're chemical lasers, if I understand correctly. But again, I'm not an expert at all. So this is me relating what i've read um so but you know i imagine that that would make you know russia less of a threat but i still don't think that uh i wouldn't trust it anyway no well i mean it's world war three you're gonna count on your survival hey the government built some lasers i don't think it would happen
Starting point is 00:39:05 hosted payloads it says on its website spacex says starshield will have an initial focus on three areas imagery communications and quote hosted payloads third of which effectively offers government customers the company's satellite bus the body of the spacecraft as a flexible platform but what does that what does that mean like it's going to carry something posted payload sounds like a virus well they're gonna send a payload is is usually some kind of weapon you know if you're talking about the payload on a nuclear weapon that's the that's the the warhead would be the payload so i don't know exactly what hey look if the u.s goes for low orbit ion cannon i'm not complaining great this does remind me but it's funny this does remind me a lot of the star wars stuff in the 1980s so i wonder if this is actually a serious idea or just
Starting point is 00:39:51 you know bluffing like it was in the 80s obviously with reagan i don't know he he had some for people not familiar he had some plan some crazy plan with lasers whatever it is yeah they call it yeah to shoot down russian nukes and the whole thing was blunder uh bluff but the point of it i guess intuitively was what i thought it was just that they didn't have the technology at the time well i think part of the reason they talked it up that way was because they wanted to get the soviet union to you know run up their military budget and basically blow up yeah Yeah. Now they have hypersonic. The hypersonic weaponry. I don't know enough about it.
Starting point is 00:40:28 It's actually slower. It's slower than regular and econo. Oh, why is it? Why is it touted as indefensible? Then they're like, we can't shoot down our hypersonic stuff because they're talking about missiles. Whereas an ICBM actually goes into orbit and to get into orbit. It's 20,000 miles an hour. Is that what you have to is how fast you have to go? Something like that to break earth orbit whereas hypersonic would be you know uh what's the speed of sound
Starting point is 00:40:50 750 miles an hour it's fine i think they travel five times speed of sound it has something to do with uh hypersonic missiles travel low closer to the earth and are harder to uh track and respond to so with um icbms they go up, they go high, they go fast. But the higher it goes with the curvature of the Earth, the more range we have for detecting them, whereas hypersonics are low and slow. The escape velocity of Earth is 33 times the speed of sound, so a hypersonic missile is actually significantly slower than an ICBM.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Okay. But yeah, hypersonic missile is actually significantly slower than an ICBM. Okay. But yeah, hypersonic missiles. So this is, check it out. Here you go. Yep. This is from a couple days ago. This is amazing. Hypersonic weapons are super fast.
Starting point is 00:41:36 So you can see ballistic missiles, hypersonic and cruise. Hypersonic stays low and is outside radar detection. And then it's too late. Yeah, this says the U.S. Navy is developing directed energy systems as a potential defense against hypersonic stays low and is outside radar detection before and then it's too late yeah this says the u.s navy's developing directed energy systems as a potential defense against hypersonic it's a cool graphic and uh that's military military aerospace.com talks about the navy's laser weapon defense and if they're talking about laser weapon defense openly then they've probably got some nasty laser weapon defense so this is a star wars bluff like you're saying earlier this is basically what my point was you can see right here in the graphic.
Starting point is 00:42:06 They don't show... The graphic that I watched a while ago about this shows the curvature of the Earth and explains why radar detection is limited, and it's because as the Earth curves, the radar goes out, and so there's certain areas where you're not going to see anything at the ground level, and the hypersonics
Starting point is 00:42:22 track closer to the ground and then slam into the target before you realize it. The Boeing yale one airborne laser tested uh weapon system was a megawatt class chemical oxygen iodine laser mounted inside a modified military boeing 747 400 f it was designed as a missile defense system to destroy tactical ballistic missiles while in boost phase i don't know if it's actually i don't know if it's actually... I don't know that it's being used. It's tested. So apparently these hypersonics go 20 times the speed of sound. So maybe... Oh, snap. So they could break over.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Anywhere on the Earth in a matter of hours. Yeah. In less than an hour. Holy crap. In less than one hour. Man. That's wild. You know, one day there's going to be like some prominent personality who's leading the
Starting point is 00:43:02 charge against war or something. And then before anyone even realizes it, there's going to be a crater where his house used to be. And it's going to be like, prominent personality who's leading the charge against war or something and then before anyone even realizes it there's going to be a crater where his house used to be and it's about we have no idea what happened no one could see it i mean look russia and it's pretty clear that russia shot down that uh prozni guy they shot down prozhen prozhen yeah they shot down his plane so i i imagine that kind of technology in the hands of a regime like Russia or some other less than democratic regime would do just that. Smoke someone that is irritating them without a 16-year-old. But what if Starshield is actually radar detection from space to track hypersonics? That's what I imagine.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So take a look at this right they're showing right here in this graphic that the signal the wave is coming from the ground and going up and the radar can't detect beyond this uh this this you know angle what if you had a radar from space then you'd have the inverse then it would be able to see everything happening like a spider web. Anything that comes in, you can pinpoint it with thousands of satellites up there. You know exactly where it is. Now you've got space radar, in which case it's hypersonic.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You can track. I like how the cruise missile just doesn't make it anywhere. It's just like 14 minutes. It barely moves. When was the cruise missile invented? How long ago was that? Oh, goodness. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I wonder. I wonder if that was... That's probably still after uh rocketry i mean v2 70s 70s i imagine because they they were using cruise missile cruise missiles were the first thing i remember seeing when in the first iraq war i was 15 years old and like they'd started shoving cruise missiles down saddam hussein's neck and and it was it And it was impressive as a kid to be like, whoa, that's actually happening. The missile that Trump dropped while he was president, the mother of all- Moab.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Was that a cruise missile? No, that is a gravity bomb. They call it, it's a thermobaric bomb. So it actually, when it hits the ground or when it detonates first, it shoots out a bunch of gas that blows up. Oh, interesting. So it ignites the gas.
Starting point is 00:45:06 It looks like the first cruise missile was invented during World War I by the Americans, but it wasn't used. Really? During the interwar period, not many people were working on it, but Germany went hard on the rockets. And I could be wrong about the way that it works.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I could be thinking of a different thing. Sure. I know the Moab is big. It's the biggest munition that is not a nuclear weapon. And to clarify, a cruise missile specifically is a missile that's supposed to hit a target on land. That's the point of it. That's why they call it a cruise missile, I guess. The V2, the vengeance weapon.
Starting point is 00:45:38 V stands for vengeance, the V2 rocket? It's the... Vergelten Swap. Ha! The V2s were the ones where the British pilots had to tip them out of the way, right? Am I getting that one right? It was a Nazi rocket.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I know that, yeah. Because they weren't that fast. But it was a completely new technology. I don't know. You mean like with their plane? So they have to fly alongside it, and then you tip it with your wing, and it's just enough to veer it out off its course.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah, no, it wasn't really that effective from what I hear. They just had a lot of them, and no one else did. They poured their research and development into the V2 program. That was part of Hitler's problem is he always wanted to focus on very sci-fi-esque, at the time, futuristic ideas instead of what was practical, and this was one of them you know it just it didn't do the damage to london and england that was worth all the money they put into it yeah they want to just rocket england all day every day and then the nukes got invented so
Starting point is 00:46:35 everyone's saying v1 is the the missile that i'm talking about it's the predecessor to the v2 is the one the british would just tip out of the way with their own planes. I think the V3 then was the giant gun, right? The giant cannon that went for several miles. And like I said, it's a SIFO. Oh, wow, it's a giant gun. Are you talking about the one that was on a rail? Yeah, yeah. And didn't they just blow it up or whatever?
Starting point is 00:46:55 You can just bomb it. The V3 cannon, the German super gun? Yeah, yeah. I've never heard of it either. They had this big cannon that was ridiculously big. It had to be moved on rail and and it was not practical anything that you have to that has to be like on rail to move that's completely impractical and it's easy to bomb it's easy to destroy yeah yeah before like
Starting point is 00:47:20 world war one when they just had hot air balloons and stuff they were extremely effective artillery on rail but now with air support support, they're just targets. I mean, not just targets, but they're easily targetable from space. And I talk with a lot of confidence about military tech. I'm not a military guy. I just want to put that out there. I defer to anyone with combat experience or that's an expert on the weaponry because I love hearing about this stuff. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I survived the Meemaw. 2,754 civilians killed in London by v2 attacks and 6,523 injured but see that's not really a lot when you consider the total death during the war and the amount of money that went into that versus the return that's the problem yeah two people per rockets it's uh right that's not a really good investment at all they'd be better off putting rocks on blimp to just having the rocks fall. I mean, you're right when we say that. Japan did this with bombs.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah, if you think about the amount of money that was spent in Iraq, like every time that they shot a hellfire at a goat herder. Because it would just be some random dude that got paid, you know, whatever, a hundred bucks or whatever to go up on the hill and with his old 1910 Springfield rifle or whatever take a couple pot shots at the at the base because the point is to
Starting point is 00:48:33 just harass the Americans and the Americans reply was call in the helicopters and they just started lighting up the whole hillside these are those Fugo bombs yeah they yeah this is crazy Japan would send up balloons carrying bombs that would ride the jet stream for thousands of miles and then eventually drop the bombs on the united states in random locations most of them just hit fields though yeah that's a
Starting point is 00:48:56 problem with trying to do that to the u.s especially it's such a spread out country sounds like china china was able to do it again they found found a way to get a balloon over us. Man, that's crazy. I remember when I was little, I watched a documentary about it. It had this system where if it started to go too low, the pressure in the balloon would be going down, and then it would cause a bag to drop, which would then make it go back up where the pressure would expand.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Then as it started to go back down, it would drop another, go back up. Yeah, and they timed it through these mechanisms to drop once it traveled a certain amount of time to hit the United States. Yeah, I watched some video. Apparently, some kids found a bomb and hit it with a rock and it blew up and killed them or something. Oh, my gosh. Well, I mean, you're running through the woods and you find an explosive device. Kids are stupid. That's the sad part about what's happening ukraine now too i imagine the mind they're mining the field it's just not only depleted uranium rounds underground they're just irradiating the soil but like just the the landmines and stuff left over
Starting point is 00:49:58 drones that go rogue that fly off and they're like i don't know where it went you know we didn't see it explode it's just gone we don't know where it went. You know, we didn't see it explode. It's just gone. We don't know where it went. The kid's going to find that drone, you know, like people are going to find it. They're going to stumble across it. Oh, here we go. Look at this. May 5th, 1945, six civilians were killed near Bly, Oregon, when they discovered one of the balloon bombs in Fremont National Forest, becoming the only fatalities from Axis action in the continental U.S. during the war.
Starting point is 00:50:20 That's what I was going to say. I think it only hit people once. Yeah, I guess they didn't even hit them. They found it. Right, exactly. This must have been the story. It's Reverend Archie Mitchell and his pregnant wife drove up Gearhart Mountain today with five of their Sunday school students in a picnic when Archie was parking the car, Elsie,
Starting point is 00:50:33 and the children discovered a balloon and carriage loaded with an anti-personnel bomb on the ground. A large explosion occurred. The four boys were killed instantly, while Elsie andan patsky died from their wounds shortly after an army investigation concluded the bomb had likely been kicked or dropped and that it had lain undisturbed about one month before the incident so that's what it was i was that must have been what i had been watching so they kicked it i guess the assumption was the kids ran up to it and they're like hey look an explosive and they kicked it and then it blew up so and people
Starting point is 00:51:02 understand too there are undetonated bombs in in uh southeast asia oh boy be careful there's a lot of there's a lot of places um i have i had a friend who went to cambodia and uh was working with uh like these uh i i don't know i don't remember the exact story but he was talking about how there are landmines everywhere and to navigate these fields there are footsteps and you're jumping from footstep to footstep in the dirt because you know that's the only place that's the only way you know that you're safe and you won't blow up and i was talking about going i was like yeah we were thinking of going because there are these people who are doing, what they do is they release goats into these fields. And then the goats explode.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And so I was like, that's a crazy story. And I'd want to cover that. And my friend was like, don't do it. He was like, the scariest, most stressful, disturbing thing in my life was traversing these fields. You don't want to do it. Trust me. And we ended up not doing it. But that's the general idea however the tank buster mines require the weight of a vehicle to detonate and
Starting point is 00:52:10 so those are a lot harder to trigger and they're huge but for the smaller landmines they just will get a bunch of goats and fields all yours and then boom boom boom the goats are exploding crazy yeah rough yeah they do another thing now where they have these big uh they're take a big ball and there's a bunch of bamboo uh sticks coming out with plates on the bottom so it looks like remember those suction cup balls you'd throw out the wall and it would suction cup its way down yeah yeah they look like that and they the wind blows them around and they just blow up as they bounce around on landmines because they're pretty heavy yeah and then they just get damaged and keep going until eventually they fall apart i would i'm thinking that you could maybe vibrate the soil and trigger them all at once if you could
Starting point is 00:52:52 somehow set up like tesla was working on sending electrical current through the ground they're mechanical i mean you're not i would say you're on the right track you would need to heat them up substantially and detonate them somehow i I would know how to do that. Maybe a plane flying, not too high up, just doing a laser sweep or something like that. Or like stick metal poles in the ground all over the place and then send a low frequency through,
Starting point is 00:53:13 or just tweak the frequency until you hit the trigger. Yes. If you can navigate a field to stick poles in the ground that are covered in landmines. How big is it? You know, how, how much space do you need to trigger?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Explosives. I'm telling you, dude. Just more explosives. You will not convince someone to invest in any of this technology when they can send goats into a field. I'm sorry, dude. They're going to be like, we got too many goats already. Send them in. How much?
Starting point is 00:53:37 Oh, yeah. But I mean, for the region, it's goats. And then the goats just blow up. Or like a strategic defense from above where you can like you can't see use lidar to map the ground and see where they are and then hit them with lasers i mean i suppose yeah but you're talking about expensive and high tech and stuff it's easier to shove bro you're gonna you're gonna go to the government we can spend two million dollars yeah it was in ohio maybe they got we got two million dollars for lidar or 10 000 for a bunch
Starting point is 00:54:05 of goats they're gonna be like just do the goats can i eat the goats when it's done yeah you're not gonna want to pick those things up you you can't you're not i mean what if they missed a mine you don't go into minefields like minefields are like there's an argument significant argument against mines like it they get left and behind they end up maiming kids you see you saw it through all kinds of uh mines that were left behind and after vietnam and stuff like that and and it it you know just ruins entire regions and you have massive amounts of death and dismembered people and stuff and it sucks but what do you do when you've got tanks coming in you're coming at you you know like there's only so much so many things that can stop a tank you know if you can if you can knock the
Starting point is 00:54:51 treads off a tank but with a with a mine then the tank's vulnerable they have to get out of the tank then you can shoot the guys that are in the tank but if you can't stop the tanks tanks are going to smoke you and your buddies so you deal with what you got you know you have to put mines out to stop them you put mines out to stop them because again war is awful war crimes are only war crimes if uh if if if you are the loser yeah yeah but you know i guess the issue today is you don't need tanks if you can convince so while propaganda has been a key component of war for the past 100 plus years propaganda nowadays is um it's it's it's a million times where where we were 100 years ago you take a look at say a nuclear weapon a merv 12 warheads 1250 times more powerful than the the bombs dropped
Starting point is 00:55:39 on hiroshima and nagasaki you take a look at the explosive power and then go back in time to the origin of the first you know the first time someone ever discovered combustion or combustible materials and it's it's it's what a thousand plus years or whatever chinese yeah 200 a.d or something fireworks it started with yeah and i forgot i forgot what they were they were doing something impractical with them they had little rockets they would use to scare people or something because they would like fly at you and then uh it took a thousand years to get the point where we could just blow up an entire city with one bomb you take a look at propaganda and we'd have to
Starting point is 00:56:12 drop pamphlets from planes and in a hundred years we can beam our thoughts into your brain no matter where you are china has a massive apparatus for manipulating the american public in tiktok for the record it was uh 1044 ad when gunpowder was invented in China. What was it for, did they say? It was for... Wasn't it for firecrackers? Just to celebrate? No, but I think it was invented by accident.
Starting point is 00:56:35 They were trying to make an elixir of immortality. This is according to Chinese sources. Well, most discoveries are... They're called first known instances. They're discoveries because it was an accident. So that's like the moonshine thing where they're making moonshine and then they blow up you know that kind of cliche i guess it started in china they were trying to live forever so it's 808 ad was the first reference to 808 yeah that's what it says on
Starting point is 00:56:59 wikipedia yeah in the warring states period they had they had rifles they weren't very good archers were actually flying cloud thunderclap eruptor so right i think it was uh yeah they were they were shooting stuff out of it yeah i don't know i read something that like the initial stuff they did was just like shock and awe they didn't really have like a good way to weaponize it yeah you scare the horses that's a big thing yeah and elephants if you have to fight those. Sulphur, realgar, saltpeter, and honey. Smoke and flames result so that the hands and faces have been burnt, and even the whole house where they have been working burnt down.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. And the Chinese invented the compass 1,000 years before Europeans did. Crazy, right? Nice. They were doing all sorts of crazy stuff i love those chinese man they never really they didn't really capitalize on on the potential though like it they didn't well you know that's what's interesting about as an asian i can say this
Starting point is 00:57:55 okay about asian culture is that very smart yes but not a lot of creativity and that's why even today you see throughout also a lot of history right chinese invented gunpowder weren't using it practically yeah who started using it in a because you had to think outside the box you've never seen this before right and there's a very asian culture of you know sort of this submissive hey follow the strict line you know do this do that but not a lot of creativity and i think you see this even in china for school if you want to come to american school or whatever like they'll just train your whole life to take the s18 you probably get a perfect score but then what after that what happens when you have to be say an engineer and you have to actually think creatively right well it's something lacking in
Starting point is 00:58:38 a lot of asian culture i love that for a thousand years they have gunpowder these uh southeast asians chinese are like look at this stuff we made look what happens when you light it like whoa and then europeans like i could kill a lot of people with that and then they were like wait what to be fair the idea of killing people with it did come from china i don't want to take that away from them right they have their their whatever it's called the was it uh huolong jing what's that it's the the chinese military treaty what is this uh oh this is an m a flying cloud thunderclap eruptor and it looks like a gun it looks like they loaded it with powder they put a hole in it man that's crazy and then like a shotgun yeah it's like a cannon shotgun
Starting point is 00:59:23 and it just shoots like metal and rocks and stuff. They would just use... Yeah. Just ballista. I think George Washington used to do that because they didn't... They were running low on munitions. So they'd just shove whatever they could find into the cannons and just blast them. So you're getting hit with rocks, sticks, pieces of metal, a boot.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I gotta tell you, it is really crazy when you think about... That's like the railway rifle. All of the stupid stuff that we know from video games and movies would make you a warlord god like demigod 2,000 years ago or 1,000 years ago you'd show up and be like, oh yeah
Starting point is 00:59:54 I know how to start a fire I know how to, like, give me some bat crap and we'll start making some gunpowder and they'll be like, making what? and then you'll be like, what? here, eat this mold and you'll feel better they're like what are you talking about see that red rock right there see that red rock over there yeah melt it what do you mean melt it just light it on fire let's let's let's roll and then it's like i look like i have no idea how to make steel but i know it exists
Starting point is 01:00:19 which means i could go to them and be like you need to like get carbon and iron and start doing something and that is an advancement leaps and bounds above how long it took me like if just which means I could go to them and be like, you need to like get carbon and iron and start doing something. And that is an advancement leaps and bounds above how long it took me. Like if just the fact that I can tell them like, oh, you need a like bat crap, you know, just like we know little bits here and there that took humans thousands, tens of thousands of years to figure out.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And we just like watched a movie once. And we have fragments of that information that if you went back in time and said look man i have no idea how to make gunpowder but i saw something about bat crap once you've just jumped someone up 10 years 20 years yeah sulfur yeah yeah what's in the bat crap uh well it begins with a g i don't know that crap is guano it's a potassium uh something potassium i'm not sure what it is you mix you miss bat crap with uh bat crap we should know this because it is salt peter and and there was a uh manufacturing of the that's crazy the caves in west virginia were used to manufacture our munitions for the confederate army bird guano because they had a bunch of bat crap. Potassium nitrate.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And then charcoal and sulfur. Right, that's what it is. Yeah, so bird apparently works too. We got a bunch of chickens out there. Could you make gunpowder from chicken crap? It smells like it. It smells worse than that, dude. You smell that sulfur coming off of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:41 But anyway, my point is, not that i know how to make gunpowder or anything like that just that we've got a whole bunch of cursory knowledge like even even just the fact that we know things exist you go to something like hey you can make a thing called a compass where it's like i don't i don't know how they made it but it was a piece of metal and it was on a pin and it pointed we had an n in one area and then it would always point north and then someone's going to figure it out very very quickly relative to how long it took humans to actually figure it out granted you probably wouldn't be able to communicate effectively with them you'd say
Starting point is 01:02:11 bat crap and they'd be like i have no idea what he just said they would hear you say gobbledygook they probably just kill you before you got a chance oh no for sure they'd be like strangely dressed person you like if you go back 2 000 years and you show and you show up people like the first thing that happens is they're pointing spears at you screaming at you in a language you don't understand and then they're just like you're a slave i'm only going if i can bring a gun that's it well have you seen you've seen uh it was evil dead or was it army of darkness which one was my boomstick yeah he goes back in time with the shotgun this is my boomstick is the chain what do you prime it even touches me god what a great movie stick i feel
Starting point is 01:02:46 like that you have the uh how many i would love to talk about evil dead to be honest that's a great movie man i i think that the the heroes of atlantis had the compass my guess i don't want to take the the show into conspiracy town but i i don't see how they could have circumnavigated the globe with the earth on Atlas's back without the compass. And then, you know, the way that they seem to have colonized Earth. So the importance of preserving data, because like we're saying, we have the data if we could go back in time, but they might have had it back then. And it's the key is to be able to preserve it, probably in orbit in case a comet wipes out the surface in glass or something in orbit or in dna you can store data in dna all right that's my derailment for the night apparently people were saying online i just
Starting point is 01:03:31 did a quick search that you can use they call it chicken manure for gunpowder too so if you got chickens but the bat knew this that's why there's chicken city outside was the i have no idea how to extract salt peter from any of this stuff you need like alcohol or something uh you need potassium nitrate sulfur and charcoal but you need to get the potassium nitrate isolated you need alcohol or something like that i don't know and like i don't even know how to make alcohol apparently it's like you get like wood alcohol or something you talk about going back it's crazy that people figure this out. Hey, let's take bat crap.
Starting point is 01:04:09 No, no, but that's not how it is. It's not how it is. It's so like bread, for instance. Like how does bread come to exist? Some like people are milling about nomadic hungry. They see wheat and they rip the top. They see horses eating the tops and they're like, hey, look, and they pull out and they're like, hey, I can eat this. They start grabbing a whole bunch of it, bring it back home. And then they have a big, they're like, hey, this stuff's hard.
Starting point is 01:04:28 You can't eat it. So they pull the wheat groats out, put it in a big bowl, and they start eating them. Then eventually, someone like, hey, I'm going to heat mine up because, you know, I don't like it cold. And we cook, like humans figure out cooking. Then they heat it up. Then someone adds water to it. Then someone mashes it. It's just slowly over time. And the first bread is just like mashed grain they put water in it then it made like a hard flat bread and then eventually somebody let their sit out on accident
Starting point is 01:04:54 it's just always one step at a time yeast contamination contaminated the flower somebody somebody probably was like oh grandpa has no teeth he can't eat this let's break it up for him so they mash it no for real though they mash it up then they put water in it and heat it and they're like here you go and he's eating warm warm dough paste and then someone was like let's get it real hot and then they saw what happened to it and they're like look and then they're like well now grandpa can't eat it again because now it's hard and they're like whoa but then someone ate like hey i like this then someone made the dough left it out yeast contamination it got really big and they were like whoa and then they cooked it and they were like oh like you know it's just i think penicillin
Starting point is 01:05:28 was also found on accident yeah of course it's all it look that's why it's called discovery when it's discovered and not invention you know what i mean or i mean i often it is called an invention but typically it's discovery we are discovering it yeah exists and we stumble upon it like uh ben franklin discovered electricity electricity. Did he really discover it? He rediscovered it. I don't know. I'm sure that Zeus, I think Zeus had it.
Starting point is 01:05:49 If he could shoot lightning. I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure people had already been using it. I don't, I don't know that he, I would be actually. For sure. The Baghdad battery produced electricity.
Starting point is 01:05:56 It's a clay pot filled with vinegar with a, with an iron rod in it, wrapped with a copper wire. And then you can chain these pots together and create electrical charge. That's like 3 000 year old technology at the least i mean i gotta be honest hearing this story about his kite experiment in 17 17 50 17 52 just sounds insane dude this man this guy ben i mean this is this this is his country man this is this country is formed in this guy's belief structure this is the guy
Starting point is 01:06:23 that conceptualized the united states of america maybe he had dirt on someone and they're like all right we'll let you say that you discovered electricity i kind of feel like madison did that because he's kind of the guy that's like the father of the constitution he wrote the constitution i had it because he came before everybody for 30 years and primed everybody for it and like so this is it he did not discover electricity he was trying to prove that lightning was electricity wow yeah and so they could figure out a way to uh stop lightning strikes on houses so they created lightning rods which would then focus the lightning strikes away from the wood and would stop blowing up houses and but harnessing it that came later harnessing
Starting point is 01:07:02 it i mean they still can't i don't think so well no harnessing electricity i mean not not lightning just electricity itself and they started making like i i i think they had always i think for a long time there had been a general understanding but i think people underestimate you know humans i have to look it up but i'm pretty sure there was some minor use for a long time i mean if you go back to the baghdad battery what is what was what was the uh what's the assumption that they were doing electroplating i think so a bunch of clay was a bunch of clay pots yeah clay pots vinegar or or something acidic so vinegar wine you could use lemon juice and they would put copper wires in it yeah it'd be an iron rod sticking down the middle of the pot
Starting point is 01:07:42 wrapped with copper wire and that would produce an electrical charge on its own aliens because i gotta say i can understand inventing bread but i can't understand how someone accidentally makes a battery like a battery like the baghdad battery sounds like someone knew what a battery was and said like i'm trapped here in the desert with little supplies i need to make some kind of battery it's possible they had a cup clay like a clay drinking vessel and they were drinking wine and they shocked to themselves like maybe there was copper in it and they got a shock yeah i think ancient civilizations were a lot more advanced than people realize some of them forgotten lost whatever i agree all knowledge has been lost yeah i think that uh it's it's funny when people talk about like the moon landing and they're like we have alex time on the show and
Starting point is 01:08:22 he's like how did we lose the technology tab Tim? I'm like, we lost tons of technology. Like the one reference I often bring up is that we couldn't build skyscrapers above like eight floors or whatever when we started expanding and building upward because the heat would build up too much. We couldn't exhaust it fast enough. And then the air conditioner got invented. And now it's like now we can but the crazy thing is there were there were uh like native african tribes that had built their their hudson structures to funnel heat up and out to keep the inside cool when it was hot outside and it's like that technology existed over there and not over here now when we build buildings they create like tunnels that will pull because uh the hot air is going to go up so you actually create a system where it pulls cold air from from the from the ground and vents the hot air up up through the
Starting point is 01:09:09 roof so it reduces energy costs for building skyscrapers but we we forgot that not to mention the the romans had concrete that could set underwater and that's always the big one everyone references tons of technology has been lost i think that information is way more valuable than people realize. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. We've had such access to it as Americans with libraries and internet now, but like you lose it once, it's gone. Like you might have a generation of memory.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Bro, they had to. Humans, but. Like, this is the crazy thing. They had to invent the idea of freedom. Like, so, no, but for real like that certain ideas don't exist in certain cultures in certain languages there's um there was like i was reading a thing a while ago about words that that have complex meanings in certain cultures that don't translate very well so in like one african culture they have a word they have a single word for the feeling you get
Starting point is 01:10:03 when you are longing for someone but you are watching them long for someone else and you know you'll never have them they have like a single word to explain that idea and it's like for us we just i don't know i don't know what you call getting cucked i don't know right it's like kind of have a meme for it covet not even and then uh in france they have the phrase the call of the void and it's it's a reference to when you're looking down from a from from a great height and you feel a desire to jump they just call it the call of the void it's so weird i don't know if they actually i just read that in the magazine is that a vacuum pulling you towards it or something no it's just like the way that i had described is like you're
Starting point is 01:10:37 driving on a highway and you have that instinct to just jerk the steering wheel i'll feel it on the bad idea about that that's the one that i read this the way they described it yeah i've never experienced that i'll get like i've had the like looking down from a great height and being like wow you feel like you can just feel the jump and it might be wind pulling you because i'll feel it on the subway track when a subway car goes flying by i'll feel pulled towards that's something all in your head the call of the void is a reference to something specific yeah that people want to jump from from like i'm not saying jump to your death it's like it's a it's like to just jump down under the assumption that you're okay you're fine so it's usually like you jump off a few feet and you walk away
Starting point is 01:11:14 but from great heights you can't tell how high it is i had a friend who broke her leg jumping off second story of a building because she didn't realize how high it was and it's like are you saying there was no intent to hurt yourself if you ever need to get out of the second story do you hang and then you drop here's the crazy here's the crazy thing about language how do you there you know i remember the first time someone told me oh this word can't be translated i don't know how to translate it and i'm like how do you not know how to translate a word it's because the idea in your mind doesn't have words in another language i think they don't have the word for love in north korea there's no word for snow in uh in the whatever hawaii whatever the hawaiian language is you know it's crazy to think about is not just the words but how you perceive the
Starting point is 01:11:55 world based on language right right so someone who speaks someone can come into this country for instance and learn english but they if they think in the world and some like non-even western language they perceive it existing on earth in a totally different way than we do you know they're different people like personalities change like people like i have heard like when someone speaks spanish they're like you're a certain way when you speak spanish but when you speak english you're a completely different way so so the main reason i brought all this up is the a lot of philosophical ideas that we take for granted heck the idea of zero as a number had to be discovered yep and so there was a period where if you went to if you went to the average person and said let me tell you about some maths let's say you have let's say you're starting at zero right they'll go huh look like zero like let's
Starting point is 01:12:40 say you have nothing they'll be like huh yeah because there's no nothing in reality it's a weird but it's just like they're they don't know that they don't understand that concept we grow up we learn these things it becomes commonplace to us so you know in today's day and age you look at the philosophy that was written and these these great philosophers who are coming up with these ideas and we're kind of like it took you you had to figure that one out i've always known well it's because we're surrounded by people who generally understand these things that information is given to us. Do you think that we're limited in our ability to think by the language we know?
Starting point is 01:13:14 Yes. Yeah. So you don't think we can think without language? Yes. To a certain degree, yes. There are different ways of thinking. And I'm not going to pretend to know all of them or whatever. What I do know is, and depends on the person who's listening, but I'm assuming some people here, can think in words, images, sounds.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Some people can't think in images. Some people think in, they describe it as just like raw thought. There's no inner monologue. There's no voice. Some people think in multi-track, more than one thing at a time. I have this weird thing where I can be daydreaming about my plans for a video game while I'm talking. And so I can be literally just autopiloting my ideas and language while I'm imagining what I'm going to do when I go back to my video game. It's like singing and playing guitar kind of at the same time at flow state or your body.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Right. It's also how you can you can write a song as you're playing so it's it's how people are freestyling their brain is planning the words ahead before they say it so it's multi-track freestyling different thoughts at the same time that's cool so the important thing is uh like the ideas of classical liberalism start to emerge around what was like late 1600s 1700s yeah when we started getting all those ideas and it's hard it's crazy to think that back then they did not have the concept of like personal responsibility and individual liberty like but before the united states for the most part i mean granted there's rome but after this period with european colonialism and european monarchy and stuff the general idea was that if you were
Starting point is 01:14:45 a world leader it was it was because of divine providence god wills it divine right and then all of a sudden you're the founding fathers being like i kind of think we're all equal and we're all people and you're just making that up and we should govern ourselves and they're like oh arguably the first time that that concept was actually like and put into law was the magna carta and we talked about the right card a couple days ago um and that wasn't everybody that was the actual lords trying to get some kind of uh recognition from the king as equals i don't think the actual peasants were were written in the same way that the landowners were but it was the first step towards all people are created equal in the eyes of god or yeah you know you don't really blew my mind the first time
Starting point is 01:15:31 i read about the discovery of air yeah because we we are raised in a world where it is commonplace to understand we live in a gaseous atmosphere but there was this dude and what they would do back in the days they had these brass balls with holes in the bottom and a straw that comes up a understand we live in a gaseous atmosphere but there was this dude and what they would do back in the day is they had these brass balls with holes in the bottom and a straw that comes up a tube and what they would do is they would put their they would take it dip it in water put their thumb over the hole pull it up and then let go and it would pour the water over him so then this one dude is like well you put it in the water and then cover it what if i cover it and then put it in the water and when he did no water went inside and he goes there's got to be something there blocking the water from going in and that's where he came up the idea of air because because there's nothing
Starting point is 01:16:14 like you just can't see it you don't feel it the wind is like some element they would describe it as and this guy was like there's air and then all of a sudden there was this discovery and this knowledge that people had like, oh, there is something there, isn't there? So who discovered transgenderism? Because I'd like to go back in time and have a peaceful word with him. That's a long time ago. Well, let's talk about John Money and, but to go back to ancient knowledge and stuff,
Starting point is 01:16:37 but yeah, who's the other guy? Kinsey, Kinsey. We got, we, you got, you got to save that stuff for Seamus. But I just, I, I, I'm sorry. I just love this idea. We're talking about Benjamin Franklin discovering electricity discovering electricity you know he's not really discovering it he's like i bet lightning is electricity and then i just think about that and i'm like wow do we really take this stuff for granted because even right now there's probably i well it's a fact
Starting point is 01:16:59 that there's a bunch of really stupid obvious things we don't know as humans and in a hundred years they're going to be like they didn't know that like you know x was i think we're psychic and it's going to be so obvious to people in the future to be like these morons took so long to accept it like when you call your friend and they're calling you at the same moment oops that it wasn't someone you didn't know calling you it was the same person you were calling just weird stuff you know or where you can look at someone and kind of you know what they're thinking without them having to tell you i mean maybe i don't know about all that because it's like dreams and stuff like dreams we haven't figured out what dreams are yet they're gonna tell in the future they'll be like those idiots i mean we have we have ideas but the interesting thing about most of our scientific ideas is that the they tend to be
Starting point is 01:17:41 wrong isn't that crazy thing i love this uh i was i was reading about how the the um the way we view the human body and the brain is based on the current version of technology that is ubiquitous so before uh you know 100 years ago when steam was becoming this prominent thing the brain was viewed as a pressure machine and it worked through pressure and now that we have computers it is viewed as a you know these people these liberals are like we're wet wet robots you know that's all we are they're just basic and the human brain is probably something infinitely more profound than just to call it a computer it's probably you know we're it's going to be 100 years from now and we're going to have
Starting point is 01:18:18 quantum you know quantum holographic you know uh computational reality bending devices and we're going to be like oh it's a human brain a human brain is basically just a functioning quantum uh you know refraction device for manipulating reality and they might still be wrong and exactly and then it's going to be 100 years later and they're like can you believe can you believe they actually thought that those crazy people everyone knows the brain is just made of cheese who knows but it is it is crazy to see like how everything is always wrong like we we they used to drink mercury to treat syphilis yeah it's and it's like that was what you had to do and now we're like well that's wrong i kind of sort of like you have to dumb your not dumb yourself you
Starting point is 01:18:56 have to think and live in the terms of like your compatriot humans at that period of history because like i think of the subatomic spin of nature these subatomic spinners they're called um you know quarks and things like that and but if i talk to people as if your brain is a bunch of quarks they're gonna look at me like i'm an idiot because i'm it's too advanced they're like oh you're you were born too early or how do we even know the heavier time is the fundamental it's not it's just one of the one we can see at the moment smallest particle we can currently see at first we're like an atom can we split the atom and then we did and then we blew people up with it that's the funny thing it's like a scientist is like eureka i've split the atom and then some dude is like i can kill a lot of people what if we can
Starting point is 01:19:34 split a lot of atoms isn't it more that leads to the greatest like innovations and inventions it's wartime frequently right horrifically yes that's why i um in europe there was this uh one really that was a great story i was reading where they're you know they have the archers shooting at each other so what one side did was they made it so that the what are they called the notches or the knocks or whatever they're called notches on the arrows were really small so that the draw strings of their enemies they could not use but the the arrows the larger spacings and them could be used on their thinner so it's like all the arrows you shoot us we can shoot back but you can't shoot the arrows back at us oh yeah clever yeah that's pretty cool but
Starting point is 01:20:16 that's but the thing about europe is that you have mediterranean abundance of food which leads to to population growth and then you also have a finite amount of space so when you get a large population and then eventually nowhere to go they start fighting over resources which leads to rapid uh competition weapons and technology and tactical developments and finally colonization they eventually just build boats and say we're getting out of here this is crazy yeah one of the things about the stat living in a status quo society is that taking risks and doing radical like in a war you have very little choice you take radical risks but we're kind of disincentivized to do it in this culture and i understand why because you want to you know want it to stay balanced you
Starting point is 01:20:56 don't want someone to build new fusion bomb right now because then everyone's got a fusion bomb but it almost hinders uh innovation in a way. I think you look at England and kind of the Anglosphere contributing probably a lot of, you know, America and England, a lot of the world's technology today or is invented here. And, you know, you kind of go back, look at a place like England, right? It's cold, not a lot of resources, can't really do a whole lot. So you got to think creatively. And I think it's interesting how English creativity seems to have contributed a lot to history. And then obviously, you know, largest empire, all that stuff. Isaac Newton.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I was reading about physics and how Isaac Newton's discovery allowed for long-range ballistics, which allowed the British Navy to dominate the world. They had long-range cannons. They could hit boats before the boats could hit them. And that was like... Principia Mathematica. Oh, yeah that was newton's book do you think that like with england it i'm sure there was great minds there but you know with the internet today we see that just such a jump in information and knowledge amongst humans do you think the fact that they had such a far-reaching empire they just brought people together for better or for worse,
Starting point is 01:22:07 and that bringing of people together is just, you shared ideas, you shared food recipes, you shared materials that you might not have had access to. And so that was what the jump is in our information as a species, rather than just England being unique. it's just an empire will do that that kind of when you have different societies mixing together and and you know interacting especially if it's a peaceful interaction now granted obviously um not all of colonial uh british empire was uh was peaceful but there were plenty of places that were interacting with britain in their colonies that were not actually the colony so you know like if you're in like the interior of asia that wasn't you know uh british colonies but you did have you know the
Starting point is 01:22:58 silk road and all that kind of stuff and that that really does help to facilitate learning from, you know, because you're interacting with other cultures and one culture that might discover something because they don't have a taboo that another culture does might be able to pass on the knowledge. You know, there's a lot of taboos that, that cultures have,
Starting point is 01:23:23 like whether, whether it be types of food or you have to dress this way whether it be religions or certain behaviors that will get you killed in the amazon but won't get you killed in the desert and stuff like that so it's like those kind of interactions really do help uh societies to to progress there there's this idea that uh it's not the strongest of the humans that will survive but the ones that are the most adaptable to change that might actually be a darwin quote and so i'm wondering like the romans were extremely adaptable they would conquer and take people's technology and then call it roman technology and then move on and i wonder if we're in a place in the world right now where communism is a technology that
Starting point is 01:23:57 people think maybe is they think that being the most adaptable like we we're in a culture war to decide to show people what what should adapt into, I think. And communism, to a lot of people, looks like a good, looks like an easy path out. And it's like, is it? But you were shaking your head immediately when I brought up the word communism. Like, you don't think it's the right adaptation. I don't think it's the right adaptation. Because it's totalitarian.
Starting point is 01:24:21 It's the problem. The root problem with communism is that it's totalitarian it's it's the problem the the root problem with communism is that it's totalitarian you don't get to have another opinion and if you have the wrong opinion then you end up either you know nowadays it's cancel culture but back in you know so my buddy uh zoltan the guitar player from from uh five finger death punch he grew up in hungary okay when it was communist and you know he would say something and his parents would be like shut up you're gonna get someone you know you're gonna get they're gonna come and take you away um he's a he's a very intelligent guy he's gifted he was put into this the the smart people schools when he was young he
Starting point is 01:24:59 was taken away from his family and stuff and you know you get that kind of stuff you don't get to you know make decisions on your own and and stuff so it's it's you you don't actually have the option to decide to do something else they will decide what's which ultimately is a a lack of adaptation if you can't adapt in a system if it's totalitarian and you're unable to adapt then the system will falter and fail it's not about it's not about adaptation it's about uh the the inability to make decisions on your own so there's no creative process there's no markets there's no uh there's no exchange of ideas it's this is the way it is and that means there's no growth in your in your society there's no no progress in your in your markets and stuff like that so it's it's all bad
Starting point is 01:25:41 i think communism in many ways is kind of an example of falling victim to change instead of adapting to it because you look at even the social situation where communism originates from right industrial revolution europe's changing very fast there's the good there's the bad and a lot of people because you know you look at a place like russia right that was obviously the first uh communist revolution there because they tucker carlson brings us up a lot because they did not properly adapt to industrialization the changing world in the right way what happened right they fell to the bolsheviks the czar you know fell out of favor and all that stuff and with most communist revolutions around the world arguably even including our own right now it really comes down to a failure to properly adapt to change and
Starting point is 01:26:25 then the change basically just destroys you right and i think with america you could point to a lot of things maybe the failure to adapt to the internet and technology there's an argument to be made there right that's definitely accelerated the kind of left-wing push of the culture and all that and probably a lot of other factors um yeah i think it's that you have the older generation that keeps ignoring it as the internet starts growing so if you look back to the advent of the internet you have uh people saying it's a fad it's never going to take off it's nothing and then you have its expansion young people have completely embraced it and started using it uh i'm a little kid we had we had compu serve on dos then we ended up with you know aol and so i'm using the internet i grew
Starting point is 01:27:02 up on it these older people keep just maintaining their status quo systems because it's too hard to move their monolithic structures and this happens for a lot of industries but with communications it results in a generation that speaks a different language yeah and then all of a sudden you're going to get a cultural bifurcation like what we have now the people who believe in freedom use the internet and like posting memes and the communists who fell victim to the algorithmic manipulation for money who are now psychotic and these worldviews can't come together you look the story of that girl who was raised by wolves or whatever it's not literally raised by wolves but the wild girl and uh she never she could never learn english she never
Starting point is 01:27:39 learned language and by the time she was like a teenager and they find her whatever they try saying like here's how to speak. She could only ever grunt and say basic things like food. Yeah. Hungry. And it could never actually have complex conversations because the brain never developed. So what happens is if you have someone who grows up in the communist world of algorithmic manipulation and someone who grows up in a freedom meme loving bulletin board system world of the Internet, the the hacker culture stuff these two worldviews will never come together and you're not going to be able to explain to the communists why their worldview doesn't work because their brains are wired to be controlled and be commanded that's
Starting point is 01:28:13 why some people are literally npcs right we always use that term non-playable character but it's true yeah it's true these people have been programmed through uh through schools and through uh i think mostly through school on they go to college so they're spending their life from five years old let's say preschool four years old till 22 maybe 24 26 depending what degree they're getting where they're always just told what to do and in their life and their brain and everything their brain is constructed around life is i will be told what to do and i will do it and then you have other people who are like i will find my own way and figure life out on my own you can't convince someone whose brain is hardwired to be commanded that they should break free and be independent you can't it's not completely true i'm saying it's very very
Starting point is 01:28:58 difficult and it's painful for people that's why brandon struck talks about the story of when he finally got red pilled and realized what was going on it physically hurt him dude it's so interesting to think that every society could get to a point where it needs to adapt to modern tech and if it doesn't it falls into totalitarianism and then it will erupt into a revolution or anarchy or chaos something's going to happen and then it'll just be an explosion of pain and violence until they reform a new society to get to a place where they need to adapt again and are they going to make the same mistake again like you said the internet you know we should be first of all we should be looking at this and be like oh this is all able to be spying on me and i'm using it every day i
Starting point is 01:29:31 need the software code all of it that should be we should be adapted to that already we should be using this to govern ourselves that should be done we should be local governance we should be moving tax money around locally deciding where our tax money goes like what are we waiting on big daddy to do it for us that That's totalitarianism. Right, but you have half the country that wants Big Daddy to tell them what to do. Yeah. Your mind is like a muscle.
Starting point is 01:29:51 If you're not working it out, it's going to be a shriveled, sad piece of meat. So that's what I took from what Tim was saying, that these people, they're on autopilot. They're in the Lazy Boy from the time they're born. They get the tablet. They get YouTube. They've got algorithms. They turn on the smart TV. They time they're born. They get the tablet. They get YouTube. They've got algorithms.
Starting point is 01:30:05 They turn on the smart TV. They don't have to think. So that muscle is not being worked. You know what though? I think there's an interesting argument to be made that doesn't every society have that, right? Like how many people in any society, in any point in human history, more than 20 to 30% of the population truly thinks for themselves, right?
Starting point is 01:30:23 I think a lot of times some people are naturally kind of followers and leaders that's why you have both i think the problem now is that now that they have control of you know internet and everything like that you can very easily manipulate the followers now to you know go towards the side of evil whereas say you know i don't know 1950s whatever conservative decade we want to look at most people back then probably weren't thinking for themselves either but you had people first of all you didn't have the internet so manipulation wasn't as easy as it is now but i think probably you also had a lot of people who uh were kind of more responsible paternalistic cultural leaders that weren't trying to push the destruction of their own country onto
Starting point is 01:31:04 the people you see hitler used the radio for sure to manipulate and control people and push them towards evil ends that's radio change big example huge and when you play civilization which i really that's like the biggest change in the game radio when when radio is developed it alters the human species like beyond measure the ability to communicate across long distances in real time it's the creation of the mass broadcast it's when they they built the eye of sauron all of a sudden you have a singular broadcast tower telling you what to think and feel and this is the authority and everyone wants to hear before it was like word of mouth everything was very local you go to your
Starting point is 01:31:39 church you'd hear what people were saying you'd look at the local paper but there are competing papers and the newspapers were getting big but once radio happens all of a sudden you know people start getting these these boxes that are telling them and for a long time in the united states you had only a couple networks and they all marched in lockstep as to what was true and what you must believe and that's the thing is even in america it's only been the past few decades where people even question what they see on tv right when? When Walter Conkright went out and said the Vietnam War is bad, basically, the country believed it, right? During World War II, I don't think anyone really questioned what they heard on the news media, the radio. And so I think even in this country, it's probably still a problem, you know?
Starting point is 01:32:17 And historically was, of course. The internet breaks it, and now we're going back to how people, more localized communities, the problem is they're not physical. They're parasocial. Well, what it is is you would have a region that would have a culture and a way of speaking and a kind of food based on what was there. And their ideas were based on the world they lived in. Now with the Internet, you have people, you'll have a conservative living next to a liberal. The conservative has his community online. The liberal has their community online.
Starting point is 01:32:44 And next door to each other other they don't like each other yeah it used to be geography like dictated your culture in a huge way it doesn't matter anymore you've got people in the united states yeah that agree with communism i mean it's crazy that would have never happened right 30 years ago i remember 30 years ago i would i had friends in my neighborhood that i didn't like like kids that were mean kids that i just didn't want to be around but that was who was in my neighborhood so that's who i was around and i suffered some abuse because of it so like in a way it's better that i don't have to interact with those people even if they're next door i can get online and talk to the coolest smart people but that's a part of life too exactly yeah is Now you can avoid that situation.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Avoiding it's probably a problem, probably causing a rift. You're supposed to interact with people you disagree with and supposed to figure out how to get along with people you don't get along with. Exactly. Why do you say supposed to? I think it's just part of our evolution, what's got us to where we're at. Part of the American dream and part of the founding fathers, they all kind of i like their how they would argue and i guess i have a different take on on what is evolution and then because i i don't think that the human race is has really considerably evolved in the past 200 years you think you think i'm kind of off about i just think that evolution is kind of off in general yeah it's basically a little wrong i think that evolution um you know it requires an outside force like so you don't
Starting point is 01:34:06 like evolution is g is genes that have produced an adaptation to something that is an outside uh force so like the the way they figure that eyes evolved there were cells that were you know when we were without eyes and and stuff in in uh in the water and stuff the cells that were, you know, when we were without eyes and stuff in the water and stuff, the cells that happened to be receptive to light that could actually just see just light and dark, right? Those are the ones that ended up being the ones that could give the… More likely to survive. Yeah, more likely to survive. And so without some kind of outside influence you don't get an evolution the allegedly the evolution of the eye is an awesome video you guys should watch
Starting point is 01:34:50 i don't know the exact i think if you search evolution of the eye explained you'll get the video i'm probably referring to but they break down how you have these cells and it's a competition they're just all competing for the free energy available. Some of these cells are being hit by light and the light is, they're more receptive to it. This gives them an advantage in data. They're now getting a binary set of data, light or dark, which allows them to see if something. So basically now, if it's just dark, you can't see where the free food is. But now with light added to the mix mix you'll see dark in a pool of light indicating potential free energy this maybe it was only a 0.1 increase in the free energy
Starting point is 01:35:31 acquired by these cells but it resulted in them being more successful over a long period of time what ends up happening is as singles as multicellular organisms evolve that you get like dimples because a dimple allows light to to hit from multiple angles giving you more uh depth and understanding of where the light is coming from then you get the reason there's two is because it creates a a depth of depth of field so now you can perceive how far away an object might be so all of these things are just evolved because it's the most natural thing within our system in terms of how light operates dude i love watching video it's it's super smart and also like one of the arguments uh against like humans ability to
Starting point is 01:36:13 interact with reality so there's there's there are philosophers that say you can't actually know what's real because you have your brain is actually interpreting the things that you say yeah and the the argument against that is without without an existing world out there to perceive, you don't get evolution. Like without an existing world to interact with. So that means. Well, I don't think that disproves brain in a vat. No, no, not brain in a vat. I'm talking about the idea that we can't.
Starting point is 01:36:40 There is no reality. So that we can't actually know what reality is. That's an is that's an argument that's made but the fact that we can we can that we've evolved means that there is an out there is a reality out there for us to have responded to so so i i was having a conversation with someone a few years ago at vegas i think it was in vegas and uh the question i asked was if i take this phone right here and I throw it at that window, what will happen? What will happen, Ian?
Starting point is 01:37:11 It'll hit the window and bounce off, make a noise, maybe leave a dent, mark in the wood or something. All right, a definitive answer. And there's other acceptable answers. It will break the window and fly outside. It'll bounce off and the phone will shatter. The phone will break into a couple of different pieces. It will land in my hand because i have lightning or you'll catch it and so the point i made was are you thinking about your circumstances in terms of this is what will happen are you thinking about things in terms of the most likely thing to happen or are you thinking
Starting point is 01:37:39 are you thinking about things in terms of there's a 10 chance that'll do this a 70 chance it'll do this a 23 chance it'll do this and a 47 chance it'll do this and then you're creating contingencies based on the probabilities i usually think contingencies but i found people think i'm psychotic if i talk in contingency so i've got to pick really quickly the the most likely one and kind of flush it out and see if it's psycho what i mean to say is say is, you need to figure out when it's appropriate to look at a circumstance of someone wants to throw a phone at a window, instead of just making the assumption,
Starting point is 01:38:11 it will do X, but is to consider what are the probabilities and possibilities, and then what are your plans in the event of A, B, C, or D. But it's not appropriate to do that in every single circumstance. Sometimes, if you're in every single circumstance sometimes if you're
Starting point is 01:38:25 in a burning building and you're like let's figure this one out you're probably just gonna have to go for the first the most like get out of the building but there there may be alternate paths with higher rates of success you just don't know but you've got to like it's outside the box i actually tweeted this out yesterday uh when you're thinking outside the box have about 60 to 90 different possible outcomes in your mind you don't have to adhere to any of them, but just know that there are those many. And that's when you're thinking outside the box. But there are situations like you're just saying,
Starting point is 01:38:50 burning building, you don't have time. You're in the box. You need to get out. So you do what you got to do with what you got. We're going to super chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel,
Starting point is 01:39:00 share the show with your friends, and head over to timcast.com, become a member to support our work directly. Let's read what y'all have to say we got culture abduction says first and shout out to the dallas mayor who switches sides here here clint torres is back with another howdy people howdy howdy clint clint right on jeremiah d mac roberts says starscape chronicles dot com new sci-fi universe very cool very cool i have uh i've completed my first run through of um balder's gate now i'm wondering if i should play was it starfield starfield yes it sounds like but it's woke sounds like yeah there's some woke elements but you said balder's
Starting point is 01:39:36 gate's got some of those elements too well balder's gate has the you can create a character who has like a male face a female body a, a deep male voice, but identifies as non-binary. And like it. So if you try to randomize your character, you're going to get a purple haired masculine like dude with boobs. Sounds like it's similar level as Baldur's Gate. But it's fun. But the game itself isn't. I mean, I guess the fact I'm pretty sure in Baldur's Gate, everyone's gay.
Starting point is 01:40:03 I'm not saying that to be mean, like like all characters are homosexual or they're all bi well i guess pansexual is a better way to put it sexual yeah because and it's if it's funny if you think about video games they have to do it that way because if the general idea is that you can customize your own character to be anything and you should have an option to romance your characters they have no choice but to make it so all the characters just banging everybody and they'll care like you know it sucks i grew up my childhood playing a lot of gta i've waited now 10 years for the next game and it's like one of the things in my life that's the last video game i'm gonna play and i'll be adult right just gta 6 and i know at this point the fact that it's probably gonna come out 2027 2028 i know exactly how it's gonna be well what they're doing is the character's female now yeah for the first time it's probably going to come out 2027 2028 i know exactly how it's going to be
Starting point is 01:40:45 well what they're doing is the character's female now yeah for the first time it's going to be a female character can i guys spoil a little bit of something from starfield sure it's not major at all okay so there's this little note that you find and because the game was delayed there was a guy so excited to play the game he had cancer never got to play the game so in his honor they put a little note in the game that you can go and find to collect and it's just like happy hunting or happy exploring the universe it's really sad but that's what it reminded me of it's like these games like really people get so excited and yeah so in uh world of warcraft is something done as i think on multiple occasions where uh i think in
Starting point is 01:41:21 burning crusade they did this someone who played a lot died of cancer. And so the character became an NPC in the city that you could go and talk to and interact with. So like, immortalized it. One day, with AI, you'll be actually still talking to the real person. Yup,
Starting point is 01:41:36 that's creepy. Let's read some more. Let's read some more super chats. Where are we at? Melinda Lou says, has the uh considered virtual tickets to the miami event yes so i don't want to say too much just yet but um we're we're currently navigating how we're going to do the live portion of it and there is a decent probability the the live show will just be the whole show the whole so this is a friday night show instead of doing the normal friday
Starting point is 01:42:04 night show it will be a members only for the full thing. But this will include the pre-show. This is the way we can do the pre-show, the comedy, the show, and the after show all in one go. But we're not completely sure that that will be the way we'll do it. And then what we would do is we would immediately upload the podcast to all podcast platforms. We would then put the clips on YouTube like normal. But the issue is, if we're going to have all these awesome people, the last thing we want to do is be like, we're doing the normal, this is a YouTube show.
Starting point is 01:42:36 And so here's, nah, we want to have, we want Alex Stein to be able to just like, we want to own the show and not have to worry about anything and make it the most entertaining imaginable, which means we probably have to control it. But we're not 100%. The general idea for now was pre-show is not live. It's only at the venue. The show will be live on YouTube as per normal. And then the after show is at the venue only.
Starting point is 01:42:59 And then I thought, yeah, but members who can't travel, we've got to figure something out. So the idea might be just like the whole Miami event will be available for members on Timcast.com. Again, we'll have to figure that one out. Not 100% sure that's the way we're going to do it, though. But I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. We will see.
Starting point is 01:43:17 We will see. And yeah, let's read some more. Dude, it'd be cool to have a 3D camera on stage that you could watch from if you have like special access and be there on stage with everybody like there's no way we can set that up i mean we we might be able to 360 cam is what i mean yes we can do it but bill like i have like i don't think rumble has the capabilities for 360 camera ingestion yeah you would have to do some kind of alternate stream yeah youtube does so So yes, it exists. And I've done them before,
Starting point is 01:43:47 360 degree live streams, but they fell out of pop. Like no one cares to do them anymore. We used to carry the monopod with the 360 camera and it would stream. And then you chose what to look at, which is cool, but super low res.
Starting point is 01:43:57 It could be cool to do like have one of the chairs be a 360 cam. You know what we could do? In that chair, we just set it up. Well, we could just record every episode and then upload the 360 live podcast watch it if you want put it on rumble
Starting point is 01:44:10 because when you if you have goggles on and you can like turn and look at the guys that are talking it's so awesome yeah yeah but the the real the real goal is to do stereoscopic 360 which is the it's hard to do but you have uh a sphere with two cameras so it's not one camera it's two for every for every camera you double it up so that way you can create depth of field so for someone who's putting on a vr headset and looking around you actually can see depth but it doesn't work perfectly because the cameras don't move so there's ai building gaps you know whatever let's uh let's read some more devin grism says tim i think we need to see james lindsey back on the show with phil i'd love to hang out with jim i haven't had a chance to meet him in person but uh
Starting point is 01:44:56 we have corresponded via the internet and he is well let's friendly guy well you just gotta tweet at him tell jim come on come on the show let's talk about jim talk about Jim. Degrowth. You're in D.C. a lot. Come on. We should do a culture war with James Lindsay. Yeah. Would you want to do it? I would totally. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:45:10 All right. What do we have? Skyler Pearson says, Tim, you should look up Publius Claudius Pulcher and the Sacred Chickens. You're going to love it. I thoroughly enjoyed the show with Matt Gates last night. My favorite rep. Thank you to you and your team for all that you do uh you know we had amy horowitz scheduled and matt gates's team said hey we wanted
Starting point is 01:45:30 to we don't know if there's any availability and i'm like oh yo matt can come whenever he wants not not not only do we need to like like get the opportunity to hear what he's talking about with this continued resolution it's a tremendous opportunity for the American people. I'm a big fan of Matt Gaetz. He is, he's the, he's actually doing things. I'm just, you know, as soon as we leave the show, I'm going to my girlfriend, I'm like, Matt Gaetz may have just shut down Omnibus Spending. I'm hoping he wins this.
Starting point is 01:45:56 This is crazy. That would be amazing. And it's just like, who else is doing stuff like this? No, no credit to Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey. There's a handful of really great people, but think matt gates is just the doing doing the most he's an aggressive communicator he likes building coalitions he's good at it i know and and i'm impressed with his his uh he is tactful he's he even talked about you know uh he was talking about the uh he's worked with aoc on um it was the stock i think it was him and aoc on this like stopping stock trading within insider trading stuff so i think he does a great job but um i do feel bad for ami because it's
Starting point is 01:46:30 always it's always rough when it's like you book a guest and then it's like the air will be sucked out of the room by this very big very important show we've got someone coming in who's in the middle of this big news story i will also add though i got a a shout out from um uh richie mcginnis we met we were on msnbc they used clips of the show to like talk about the republicans or whatever oh nice yeah i'm like hey man i'll take it we it's an honor and a privilege to be able to get you know first hand view of yeah and breakdown of what's going on with the with congress all right let's go back to where we are remington says sticks is back in the states are you going to have him on no oh is he so there are uh a couple individuals who have made it to
Starting point is 01:47:12 the states so um i don't i don't we usually don't announce anything because um then when someone cancels it sucks we do we are trying to get stick sex enam on the show. We have been trying to get Stick, Sex, and Hammer on the show forever since the show began. He's like, I'm a big fan. He's a very rational, very smart guy
Starting point is 01:47:31 and he has great content. And I think Carl Benjamin is also in the States currently. He's in Florida. He put up a picture of a horrible pizza and I don't approve, Carl. I don't approve.
Starting point is 01:47:43 I don't care that you're from england and that like you're not used to good looking food that pizza was an abomination zielinski's here too right now oh yeah that's a oh wow oh yeah i'm on the show gotta have them on uh i'm a i'm a huge fan of oh that awful pizza it's gross right it's half hawaiian half pepperoni was and it's like cut wrong was it good for him he he liked it bro well i mean you know it's crazy florida has so many new yorkers and yet i've never had good pizza in that state really that's that's so there is a rumor there there are people that say that the water in new york and i've heard that connecticut is Connecticut is why, is why the pizza is so good. It's, it's three things, the water,
Starting point is 01:48:27 the, uh, the, the air altitude and the, um, the flour they use. So there was a place I went to in Florida that advertised New York pizza. And they actually said, we import our water and our flour from New York and cook it to simulate the humidity and conditions of a typical of New York on average. So it's really I think New York is New York sea level. But then there's also like the humidity conditions, the average temperature. And so you're in Florida. It's much more humid. You have to control for these things to really try and simulate how New York pizza comes out.
Starting point is 01:49:03 I have had pizza across the whole country every state i guarantee at some point some club has just thrown pizza after the show right chicago pizza is the best but not i am not talking about deep dish it's a different kind of pizza than new york pizza too not deep dish i am talking about real chicago pizza which is, it's a thin-ish crust. The crust is probably twice as thick as your average New York, and it's firm. I don't really know how else to describe it. It is, and it's cut into squares. And this is how we had all of our pizza growing up.
Starting point is 01:49:40 The crust doesn't rise, so you don't get, like on a new york pizza the back of the pizza is big can be and then it's flat and then right it's it rises a little bit chicago pizza doesn't do that it it's baked and it like stays as it is then then it's like the sauce the cheese is really thick they're cut into squares and it's a thick square piece that's how we have chicago pizza have you guys tried andy's pizza that's in the area yet? No. So they won 2021's World's Best Pizza Award. Let's do it. Really? Yeah, I've been meaning to try it, and apparently they won it with a cheese pizza. We gotta get Dave Portnoy
Starting point is 01:50:12 out here. I mean, he's doing Pizza Fest. Dave just did a review of my buddy's pizza up in Connecticut. Foucault pizza, it's great. Foucault? He gave it a good review? Yeah, I think he gave it like an eight five or something did you see that video where the guy came out screaming at him
Starting point is 01:50:28 yeah yeah it's awesome what happened what he's like he does the pizza reviews and he came out and the store owner came out and started screaming at him or something like insulting him and then he started talking with people who were outside and they're like i love dave boy he's great and he's like what's going on dude i'm just eating no no he he tried to go to the cops the business owner because he's standing on the sidewalk and the cops were cool with him you know they were friends with him and stuff so why do we hate him well just because he's he's a liberal but also i guess the business owner's claim is that dave portnoy is bad for small business which i don't understand because here's the thing too is even if you give a place a bad pizza review
Starting point is 01:51:05 okay barstool people on the internet won't go there but it's not gonna hurt your current existing business no you know what i mean dave can only bring business because he knows he's got bad pizza yeah bro if i had a place and dave shut up i'd be like please bro tell me tell the people about my pizza yeah he's gonna be like it's pretty good man even if he said it's not the best pizza but it's like a seven or an eight, I'd be like, yes. If you live in the area, too, you would be like, okay. Also, like, Portnoy was doing all that stuff during COVID to help all the small businesses.
Starting point is 01:51:33 That dude just had his... Didn't he say he had too much Parmesan? Is that what it was? Yeah. Yeah, he's like, too much Par, man. I don't like it. Two days ago. But honestly, it was an average New England interaction.
Starting point is 01:51:43 I like Dave Portnoy. He had Mincey's back when they fired him New England interaction. I like Dave Portnoy. He had Mincy's back when they fired him for BS reasons. That's good stuff. That Washington Post journalist trying to do a hit piece on him. So he called her directly and recorded and uploaded it on Twitter. This was two days ago. Highly recommend it. It's like a master class in how you deal with this stuff.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Go on the offensive. And she admitted that she was just trying to goad people and then published the story anyway. And he's like, it's amazing that the state of journalism, you can get someone on the phone admitting that they're making up the story and pushing it and then still run the story anyway. I think now is a good time to quote Michael Malice. The job is not done until the average corporate journalist is looked at in the same way that a tobacco lobbyist is he is correct he is correct let's read some more all right dark hell hound says dark dark hell hound it says dark hell hound new jersey voted menendez back in after he was indicted well you wrote indicated but
Starting point is 01:52:37 indicted in 2013 for bribery fraud and false statements most people in new jersey will vote for the person with the d next to the name yep and when you go and talk to them i wish i'd love to believe there's a conspiracy but bro i have lived near these people i have sat down and played poker with these people i have gone to bars and spoken to them at bars and they have no idea what the they are talking about and you'll say something like you'll be like do you have any concerns about stubborn about it too well no like you'll go to someone back you uh you just you like you're wearing an i voted thing it's like you vote uh what did you go like i voted for menendez and like you have any concerns about
Starting point is 01:53:12 the fraud and like the accusations of underage girls and we'll go the what and i'm just like oh dude politics is busted man it's it's never a good policy to say oh we want to remove voting rights from people but man people abuse the hell out of their right to vote right they are irresponsible with it there is they do no they do no actual put no actual effort into looking to see if what they've heard on comedy central is actually true they are it is just clown world you know what's so sad about it too is new england and i guess by extension i'm not gonna but that area of the country is where the american revolution originated from and you can still see some of that attitude in the people in the sense that they're so stubborn and belligerent and you can tell how
Starting point is 01:54:00 hey these people's ancestors picked up guns the problem is the energy's directed all in the wrong direction right when you think about if new englander energy of today could be directed toward hey you know i'm not with what's going on in the country we're going to protect american tradition but instead it's like yes i'm going to stubbornly stand up like the guy in the dave portnoy video and fight you over uh the rights of you know gay black transgender children to you know get mastectomies at 14 you know but i'll fight you for that bro you know that kind of thing that's that's the problem the energy is in the wrong direction all right tyrian says be careful with an orgy of evidence this is the passport in the wreck of 9-11 i think the 150s and 20s is because a single bank
Starting point is 01:54:43 only has so much cash on hand also Also, why hide it in clothing? I think it's a fair point, too. Someone said that Menendez was speaking out against the Iran deal, and then all of a sudden indictment drops. Maybe that's it. I do not trust these people, man. I don't trust Menendez, but I got to be honest. If you've got, you can what what was the jack sparrow quote he's a he's a dishonest man but you can trust him because you can trust him to be dishonest
Starting point is 01:55:10 yeah and something like that and that's how i view politicians across the board except for maybe like a handful of libertarians right maybe like one democrat and maybe like seven seven republicans but the the the sdny it's just like you can't even trust them to be dishonest properly. They are completely amoral crackpots. I would not put it past them to go after even a Democrat because a Democrat was falling in line. In fact, I would expect that. So, yeah, Menendez, I view what, you know, like the idea that he would play politics
Starting point is 01:55:40 so that he can get favors. That's the kind of dishonesty I expect from a Menendez. Bribery and these kind of charges are up there and then you look at the going after of donald trump which is you know i guess you can call one neutral evil and then what sdny is doing is like i don't know it's abject evil like i i know that menendez is like these these politicians are going to do things like insider trading they're going to say hey if you fund this thing for me i'll fund this thing for you and like they're gonna have a buddy come to them say hey look man my company needs this thing done don't worry we'll get it through committee whether or not he would take gold bars in exchange for that is is is a leap so maybe maybe
Starting point is 01:56:19 but i'm gonna say it like sdny going after trump all the bullshit coming out of new york is so just egregious i don't believe i don't trust it and a good point on orgy of evidence i i think they're definitely after menendez for a reason whatever reason that is it never comes it's similar to the russell brand thing i guess i mean who knows if he did it or not but it's like but according to their story they knew hollywood or in the entertainment industry must have known about this so many decades ago but now suddenly because he is causing problems for them now allegedly according to them suddenly they care suddenly they bring this up yeah i just don't believe it i mean we we talked with uh fbi whistleblowers this morning on the culture war
Starting point is 01:56:57 and i'm like hey we have instances of identity theft fraud and swattings and we get no law enforcement uh accountability and they're like of course not enough money well it's it's not that identity theft, fraud, and swattings, and we get no law enforcement accountability. And they're like, of course. Not enough money. Well, it's not that. I think that a good portion of it is they operate as weapons of the agenda, narrative, the cathedral, et cetera. And I think everybody would agree.
Starting point is 01:57:17 If you are an obstacle in any way and you're obstinate, you're out of the picture. And they'll come out and they'll find a reason. And if you're a regular person and you say, hey, i'm under attack they'll say you have we don't care this thing has no impact on us i did get the vibe that the 400 going after him for 400k seems like not like that's not that much i mean like but it is a bribe it's felony territory i'm torn like i don't like government prosecuting people but i also don't like politicians and i like
Starting point is 01:57:45 politicians you know getting prosecuted so i'm i'm torn well i think it could be true and he's guilty of all of it but they only care because of a certain reason you know what i mean that's also a possibility because yeah across my mind how many politicians are technically guilty of bribery probably all of them this is a good right here uh paracelsus undirect says the chinese couldn't capitalize on gunpowder because the steel in the east is crap it's western steel that changed to gunpowder interesting that is an awesome fact perhaps that was perhaps that is why they could make the the powder but they could not contain it and direct the energy properly i but i'm i i mean i know japan has is is well known for the steel and the
Starting point is 01:58:25 swords the katanas and stuff like that so i think i think it really i think a lot of it has to do with china so japan had uh uh japan's an island so the fighting and and competition there is fierce with north with the americas with africa and with uh eastern europe you have such a large large land masses that when conflict arose people could flee so this is true of animals um the the burrowing animals tend to be the most vicious badgers for instance because they dig their way into a hole stuck and they're stuck and so if a predator comes if they don't fight they die so what happens is so let's say you have a bunch of badgers and half of them are really nice and half of them are really mean nice ones are all dead with birds
Starting point is 01:59:08 they fly away which is why birds aren't aggressive and don't attack you for the most part but i've seen have you ever seen a bird attack somebody those growls geese they can't fly man then they feel a little more but i mean i've seen someone walk near a tree with eggs and the bird jumps out and starts like flapping around their head and pecking at them and stuff and i'm like whoa bird's pissed i saw a squirrel attack somebody once too that's crazy it looks like in 1856 henry bessemer developed a method to reduce the carbon content in iron which led to modern steel production yeah yeah reduction of carbon so the thousand years before that i don't know why it didn't take off what what advancements they had well i don't think steel casings for a while read about the history of guns just barrels the crazy thing is how long it took to get the modern
Starting point is 01:59:49 revolver it's like somebody so so they got muskets and then some guys like what if i have like a rotating cylinder with we can pre-load all of the uh the the the you know the the balls and the powder and what what the way it worked is same as a flintlock, and after it fired, you would hand crank it and then set it again and fire and then hand crank it. And then eventually they developed percussion cap, which is preloaded, but then you put percussion caps, little metal caps that have primer in them, and you stick them over the holes,
Starting point is 02:00:20 and then the hammer hits it, sparking into the chamber and firing it. And then eventually i think it was some french dude who was like why don't we just put it all in one thing like put the primer and and the casing and the bullet all in one then you can just put it in the gun and shoot it and take it out and put it one in and and then it but it was like a hundred years or something it was crazy who gets credit it's the portuguese gets credited with modern firearms right modern is that right i don't
Starting point is 02:00:45 think so i think the cartridge was a french dude cartridge it sounds like a french word yeah french gunsmith casimir lefoshu invented the cartridge 1836 the cartridge yeah crazy and then uh uh see that's pre-civil war 30s yeah 1830s and then in the civil war the confederates were still using muzzle-loaded rifles yeah the union was as well battle of gettysburg changed the game because the union soldiers started using uh i guess you i guess you'd call it uh breach breach loaded shells i'm sorry breach loaded cartridges paper cartridges so it had the bullet it had the powder and it was wrapped in paper and you would basically break action and then they would stick it in the back and then close it and then they could fire with a percussion cap and it they were they were 10 times faster than the confederates you know you
Starting point is 02:01:27 know what's crazy is uh the union had access to the 1860 henry which was a lever action rifle right i think one of the first or the first ever invented uh and in theory they probably could have mass adapted to it which back then it'd be like you're sure about that yeah by giving every infantryman a machine gun 1860 1860 henry's the first um like major lever action lever action in america yeah was it invented in 1860 i think that's why it's called the 1860 henry but the civil yeah yeah and then there's 1866 after that wow but i guess the union wouldn't adapt it on i think some sharpshooters had it actually but the union wouldn't adapt it on a mass level because they were scared people were going to waste bullets wow which whoa which you think
Starting point is 02:02:09 how differently the war could have gone and i think i'm pretty sure that actually carried over the same logic kind of screwed us up in vietnam too the beginning because there was 1731 henry rifles used by the government the civil war and it was a point of pride to have one. Yeah. Wow, man. So in Vietnam, they were using M1s or something? Right, because they had the M1A, M14. And the Soviets, early in the war, the Viet Cong actually, I think, outclassed us because they had
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