Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #870 LIVE GOP DEBATE, Elon FIRES Election Team For Compromising Election w/Michael Knowles

Episode Date: September 28, 2023

Tim, Ian, Mary (PCC), & Serge join Michael Knowles to discuss Elon Musk firing the election integrity team from X, a woke judge undervaluing Trump's Mar-A-Lago by millions, & mass looting & riots overtaking the city of Philadelphia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Elon Musk has fired his election integrity team for compromising the integrity of the election. Who would have seen this one coming? It's fantastic. A lot of people were worried when it was announced that X would be bringing on the same old garbage. And many of these people, this is really funny, because apparently one of these election integrity guys was making fun of me. And people were like, I'm concerned about the bias of this team when they're engaging in partisan attacks on, you know, social commentators and things like that. But he fired them. That's interesting. And we'll talk about that. We got other big news. This one's

fascinating. In the case where the judge summarily ordered Trump to dissolve the Trump organization. Insane, right? He values Mar-a-Lago at about 18 to 20 million dollars, despite the fact that Mar-a-Lago generates 25 million dollars per year. Something's not right yet, for whatever reason, reasons you probably understand. Democrats and leftist personalities are agreeing with the judge. This is crazy. The Trump family, they're saying this property is probably worth close to a billion dollars. And if you look at comparables in the area based on real estate alone and not a business, they are correct. You got a half acre going for 40 million dollars and Mar-a-Lago is beach to beach property. So we'll talk about that. But my friends, it's it's the bait night. So around 9 p.m., the lesser known GOP debate will begin where we will waste our time,

but make fun of Republicans who aren't going to be the president. And I guess we'll we'll enjoy our time doing so. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Click TimCast IRLX Miami. Pick up your tickets while you still can. We are going to be in Miami all next week. Friday, October 6th, we will be live with Patrick Bet-David, James O'Keefe, Matt Gaetz. Ian will be there, of course. I will be there.

Luke Rutkowski will also be there, plus many special guests. We're going to have Alex Stein doing a stand-up bit, a pre-show, and we're going to have an after-show just for the people who are at this event, plus a bunch of free gear. And I believe right now, we haven't yet formalized it, but it is looking like that Friday night show will be a TimCast members-only exclusive for a variety of reasons. In fact, the daily wire uh with michael knows here you know exactly why we're doing it you you did the same thing recently with your backstage when yeah i saw your video you put out where you were saying we're going to take this normally on youtube we're going to put it so we're doing this event and uh that whole show it's going to be a

hundred times better for us to be on stage with the audience everybody watching participating and not having to worry about the bs plus it's just a way for us to be on stage with the audience, everybody watching, participating, and not having to worry about the BS. Plus, it's just a way for us to help make more of these events, make it function, make it reasonable. So definitely get your tickets while you still can. And also, click join us. Become a member, and you get access to our Discord server to hang out with like-minded individuals. They run their own pre-shows, after-shows, midday shows. They're working on projects, games, card games, all this really awesome stuff. If you want to be a part of it, help build culture. Another good reason to become a TimCast member.

And as a member, you can submit questions to the Uncensored show Monday through Thursday and call in and talk to us and the guests. However, I do believe because of the GOP debate tonight, we likely will not have a members-only show. We'll just do an extended show where we probably just make fun of Republicans who are not going to be president. That being said, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Michael Knowles. Great to be with you as always. I'm really glad that I could be here because you get accused of leaning in favor of one candidate or maybe another candidate. And I just think Doug Burgum does not get nearly enough support on this show so i'm here for the bergamentum

which starts tonight did you coin the bergamentum the bergamentum is the successor movement to the chrysosants or croissants for short for mr christie uh that has not really taken off so now we're on to bergamentum bergamentum uh and i think everybody knows you are, but do you want to give a brief introduction? Yes, I'm the only Republican not running for president this cycle, and I have just as much of a chance as every guy who's on stage. But you won't see me on stage. You can find me at The Michael Knowles Show and elsewhere. Right on.

Well, thanks for hanging out. We got Mary Morgan hanging out. Hello, everyone. It's been a minute since I've been on IRL, and i'm back and i'm happy to be here i work at tim cast up in the attic on pop culture crisis we don't really get into politics we talk about hollywood celebrities that kind of thing uh so yeah i guess i'm gonna have to talk about politicians well we do have a crane and maybe but we do yes but we do have a story that overlaps because joe biden called ll cool j boy he did we did talk about that they're pissed he

confused him for corn pop in fairness had he known what a great guy it's not as bad as it sounds no it's really not the headline sounds bad it sounds like he was talking to ll cool j and he goes hey boy. But that's not, that's not really what happened. Either way, I mean, I guess a lot of people, a lot of left wing people

are angry that, in whatever context, but we'll talk about it. So, you know, whatever. We got Ian hanging out. Hey everybody,

Ian Crossland. Happy to be back. Happy to see you guys. Hello, Michael. Those headphones are fire, Mary. Nice work.

Thank you. I like them. Can they see that the lights are flashing? Oh, yeah. Those light up? Yeah. Yeah. It's faint, but you can see it. I like them. Can they see that the lights are flashing? Oh, yeah. Those light up? Yeah. It's faint, but you can see it. It's subtle. Tasteful.

We'll just have to turn the lights off. Well, hello. Hi, Serge. How you doing? Hey, I'm doing good. Nice shirt again, man. It's sick. I'm a fan. Serge.com, let's get started, Tim. We got this story from the post-millennial breaking. Elon Musk fires ex-election integrity team for undermining election integrity.

This was just too good. This is big news considering we're entering the cycle. We got a debate tonight, so I figured let's jump into this one. Elon Musk announced on Wednesday that he has cut the electoral integrity team at ex in half, including the newly brought on board head of the group, Aaron Rodericks. When the news was reported musk replied oh you mean the election integrity team that was undermining election integrity yeah they're gone is this like wow you remember when trump invited mitt romney to have dinner and he

said hey mitt maybe i'll make you secretary of state and he just humiliated mitt romney at this dinner there's that picture of trump grinning like the Cheshire Cat and Romney kind of, you know, cowered over. Is that just what Elon does to these employees? He says, oh, yeah, I'm going to hire a bunch of election integrity censors and you're fired. Boom. I wonder, I wonder how much of this is 5D chess or I don't know, three. How many dimensions are we getting? It's 3D chess. So Elon Musk goes to war against the ADL because they're trying to get advertisers pulled. Elon knows he's got to push back. How much do you want to bet some of these advertisers or what companies were like, your platform is undermining election integrity.

And then he goes, we're actually hiring an election integrity team to make sure that doesn't happen. They went, oh, okay. He brings them in gets evidence of them screwing with the election right and then says you're fired and now he can go here you go we actually we are so so now elon can say no no we are actually upholding election integrity we fired these people that were doing all of these things maybe maybe i'm overestimating elon no no i think elon's if anyone on earth right now is playing 5D chess, as they talk about it, it's Elon.

And you can see it in the way he's handled the Alex Jones ban, and he has an unbanned Alex Jones account. Alex actually is the one who was like, he's playing 5D chess. If he unbans me, all the hate of the vehemence of the world will come onto him. Right now it's on me. We want to leave it on me. And Elon knows that. So that's what he's doing.

Is Alex in the room right now? I channeled that beast. Wow. So I think Elon, very, I mean, you've got to be at that level to be firing rockets up into space and working on national security and stuff. And I mean, he's basically, he's veering the momentum of the Ukraine-Russia war in a lot of ways by shutting down Starlink over top of Ukraine last year. He didn't shut it down. He never turned it on. He never turned it on.

So he denied service to a military to a country during a war so like this guy's got amazingly powerful um influence and i think he's behind the scenes just that they love him i think a lot of like the arms manufacturers love him i think that like you know if we need some a corporatist to be running the world at least it's elon yeah i'm now pro elon i was always i was never anti-elon but i was sort of elon skeptical because i just wondered if he was the monorail salesman from The Simpsons. I didn't know if it was all kind of a con.

Well, but it somewhat is. But he just keeps winning. Whenever you think, well, they've got him now, kind of like Trump. They've got him now, and then he just pulls a rabbit out of a hat and lives to see another day. Yeah, I think Elon has has his agenda he's clearly working towards a goal he has in mind it just

happens to overlap greatly with the rest of us yeah and so that works and then you see some of the stuff that's going on with you know china and you know tesla factories there and you're like yes elon has an elon agenda but it benefits us so it it's like, you know, I think I wouldn't, I wouldn't describe Elon as evil. I would actually say we're mostly aligned. He cares about free speech. He cares about what's true. He wants a platform where, you know,

Community Notes is fact-checking the fake news in the media because he wants truth. But I think his politics very much align with many left-wing people. He talks about it quite a bit. Yeah, that's true. Community Notes has kind of ruined satire on the platform, though. Because it just tells you the joke?

Yeah. Yeah. It's just a joke explainer at this point. And I actually, I'm not a, I like Community Notes a lot, but I got some criticisms. Because one thing that happened was I put out a tweet criticizing uh i guess you can call it criticizing but pointing out that the ronda sanders campaign had used footage from uh that we so it's complicated but a lot elia who reports for tim cast however he owns the the rights after the fact so we get first rights on all the content and then he can do whatever selling them outside the company but we get first rights to distribute them content and then he can do whatever selling them outside the company. But we get first rights to distribute them.

And so when the DeSantis campaign put out videos with our video that we had that we had got first rights on and then put paid for by the DeSantis campaign. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more, make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. We'll see you next time. contact connex ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge bet mgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming ontario campaign it was literally just this clip seven seconds long nothing else there was nothing in it wasn't an ad it was a video shot by a lot elia who's saying he paid for it and then i asked him i was like hey did you sell this he's like no

and i'm like okay well like we didn't sell it to him yeah so i hey, did you sell this? And he's like, no. And I'm like, okay, well, like we didn't sell it to him. So I tweeted, we did not sell this to the DeSantis campaign or whatever. And what they did was in my tweet pointing out the clip they sent out to people via text was not paid for by the DeSantis campaign. The DeSantis people used community notes to change the context of what was said to create fake news.

The insinuation was that the screenshot i had posted was a full-length advertisement and not a single clip right right of course my point being hey they're sharing a clip from our news channel and then saying paid for by desantis on the video which they did not do then they put in community notes advertisements in the political space must say that they were i'm like it wasn't an ad so that's that's my issue with you know community because the community notes are in a way like democracy which is they're only as good as the community noters you know it's only as good as the people and so a lot of times it's pretty good but then yeah sometimes people game the system like wikipedia yeah right just like wikipedia yeah yeah i got this one the best

community note i ever saw it says tim pool is bald it was it was in response to help i'm being cyber bullied tweet from last month do you remember tweeting that out of something funny i can't the original post is lost no i think it's inverted i think i responded because of your supporters was saying like tim's not even bald and then the community note tim pool is bald but it's only half true because like yes some some you're bald you know so you should have a community note on the community and say fact check tim pool wears a hoodie or a beanie rather this goes full circle though because the dude so what happened was uh someone pointed out that one of twitter's election integrity guys was was insulting me and it was him

saying something like you know if tim pool had hair i don't know i don't remember what he said someone responded with that stupid tim pool is not even bald then someone community noted it saying tim pool is bald and then i quote tweeted the twitter guy saying help help i'm being that was the best one of the best but this guy got fired this is the guy i'm pretty sure this guy uh aaron roderick's that was him he got fired he's gone and but but i think i think he got fired because i mean dude you hire a guy who then immediately goes on an activist tirade across the board just insulting people and your boss is going to be like dude what are you doing yeah yeah that's i i favor the 5d chess a little bit here because i don't know i just get the sense that elon knows what's up and he goes along and he plays games and he manages to survive. But does anyone really

believe that Elon Musk thinks Twitter needs an election integrity czar? No way. When you put up that job posting, like you have complete control over election related discourse on one of the biggest social media platforms what kind of person does that attract yeah maybe sending in their resume maybe it was a honeypot you know elon musk is like come control elections and then he sees who comes in and he's like i got you just a big bear trap on the other side that's right or but but now you know maybe he's like look we have all this documentation of firing these people was upholding election integrity. I mean, he still has some people there. I think he only cut half of the team.

Right. But he fired, he said, the election integrity team that was undermining election integrity. They're gone. What do you guys think? Well, I guess he's saying they're all gone. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. What do you guys think about moving shows over to X?

A lot of creators have been doing that lately. Does Daily Wire mess? We've tried it. I think Matt Walsh did at one point, didn't he? Walsh had to because he got booted off of YouTube. Whereas he was, I think it was, he was demonetized. Then they shut me down for a week from publishing. Then they shut Candace down for a week.

Then they got me, I sort of got out of jail a little bit. And then I think Matt got out of jail too. I don't know about Candace. So they're just playing games. It's always always constantly moving which means even if you're up on youtube this week we need an alternative long term and so we've tried x formerly known as twitter and it's good we're putting the shows up there it's nice to have a spot to do it but you know they just haven't worked out the kinks do you guys watch 45 minute shows on right they need a no friendly yeah it doesn't have like skip to the next video doesn't have related videos do they yeah they that rolled out recently the swipe to the next video and you can

now do two acts so they're improving it rapidly skip ahead skip back 15 seconds that's a key part of the player i think elon needs to do cash deals rumble is doing this rumble is teaming up with people and saying we will pay you up front for you to start building a base on rumble and it's it's it's masterful i mean they've got street league skateboarding so for me skateboarding i'm like they got street when i found out they got street league i was like whoa that's big mainstream pop culture stuff exclusive now on rumble that's crazy and i watched a skate video with one of the top pros in the world and this is not political stuff and they got rumble on their wall in their skate park and i'm like this is the move i think elon doing the ad sharing brilliant

very very powerful move i think the verification checks people don't understand why this is such an important thing that elon musk did with with twitter blue so 10 years ago all of these uh digital websites uh we'll leave them nameless they would do something like ad right it was something called ad rights sales where a company would go like a company that does clickbait garbage you may have seen them where it's like 25 pictures of gross celebrities and each picture is a new page with 800 ads on it. So what those websites would do is all those ad hits count as ad impressions and then one click turns into 25 times 10 ads. Then with all those ad hits, they sell the rights to a big brand. Let's, you know, call it the Daily Fire or something.

Yeah, just to pick one. Yeah, pick one at random. Random nonsense name. But no, the Daily Wire literally doesn't do this. I'm not trying to, I'm saying like a company would then go to this. Slimcast, something like that. Slimcast goes to this company and says, we want to own the rights to those ads and claim them. And then what happens is if you get 10 million views, they sell you the rights to those other views. And now Slimcast has 80 million views they sell you the rights to those other views and now slimcast has 80 million

views you then go to your advertisers and say the slimcast network it's 80 million views it's total bs right what elon musk is doing is going to advertise and saying when someone sees an ad and there is a check mark it is a real human for a while the concern has been that advertisers are all being ripped off by foreign uh, bot farms, that will make fake traffic to generate ad sales. And then people are buying ads and they're wondering why they're not working. It's being ripped away. So what this has actually done is it's made ads more valuable. So it's becoming more expensive to advertise, but the ads have bigger returns. So it's actually keeping, basically what's happening is when a company would buy ads on these big tech

platforms half of the money is going to india or turkey where these farms operate out of what with what elon is doing is it keeps those ad dollars in country where there's real people who are verified that's why the ad sharing thing is working it's a good idea long story short or more to the point i should say elon needs to get to the next next phase where he goes to prominent high-profile individuals and says how much do you want for your show to be an exclusive x show yeah we advertise it time square billboards tv commercials youtube ads you name it that's the move they gotta make is there a way that elon can fix it i'm glad that they're doing the payouts even though man i look at some people they're just like buying cars with their payouts i'm making pennies over here i could barely afford a quarter pound like buying cars with their payouts. I'm making pennies over here. I could barely afford a

quarter pounder with cheese with my payouts, but it's okay. What are you getting? Have you said publicly? I haven't, but I'll break it here. This is breaking news. I hope all the journalists start writing it up. My first payout was, right when I signed up, was like $800 or $900 and then it

dropped to like $200 and it's like $100 bucks but i'm getting more impressions it's not impression based okay yeah the the money you get from x is based on how many verified users interact with your posts this is why you're seeing tons of people ask questions so this is the thing because i don't i don't engagement bait on you know, I just kind of sometimes I do accidentally because people don't like my opinions. But I don't I you're right. The people who are getting zillion dollar payouts, they all post things like, you know, do you hate peanut butter and jelly? Why? but it has decreased the value of a tweet to the point where my entire timeline is just

people reposting a TikTok and being like, what would you do in this situation? Unfollow. I can't. It is. That's wild. You can make more money, but it's decreased the value, the actual human value of the post. I think I'm getting like five grand a month. You're getting five.

Man, I got to get better tweets. What's going on? Got to arrange some dudes on the internet. When the program first rolled out, like a lot of the tweets about it were in the interest of transparency, dot, dot, dot. I'm disclosing how much I'm making off of Twitter ad revenue. And it was these crazy amounts like $17,000 a month. I saw that.

That looked insane. And I just thought that those were like paid sponsorships for X. Right. Right. I'm getting just shy of six grand a month. What? Yeah. I need to get some of the, you got to teach me how to get those good fire tweets.

Well, so all lowercase, not a lot of like punctuation. You don't need that. Let me. Things that people want to correct. You know, let me, let me, let me try and find. Make an e-course or like an a paid e-book about how to make money how to farm traffic but there's no a in the word farm i'm going to be the new andrew tate i think you know like how to get rich quick you're on the road i'm on the road

i've yeah i've got i need a funnier accent and i have too much hair but we were talking about your journey to becoming a michael i'm going to be a hustler, baby. Michael, this is what you need to do. Okay, you see this? This is how you make money on X. Wow. I went on mid-journey, and I generated Donald Trump whispering sweet nothings to a chicken, and I posted it. It's got 178,000 views.

That's a nice photo. So my mid-journey journey was mostly centered around pictures of Chris Christie as baked goods because I really liked the pun of the croissants. And so I've got a lot of nice flaky Christie faces that actually get negative engagement. I actually owe Twitter money at the end of the month because of them. In all reality, though, I have a tweet. quote tweeted libby emmons it's a it's a nypd i'll just pull the pull the tweet up so you can see the example so this is like real engagement right like 2000

replies and it's the nypd police bot so it's like news stuff but you know whatever i don't know i don't really think about what i tweet i just kind of tweet stuff i'm going to just maybe i'll just copy your tweets i'm just going to take you I'm going to just, maybe I'll just copy your tweets. I'm just going to take, you're going to tweet something and then I'll just copy it and post it and then be rich. That's right. That's what I want. Well, so the reason why I quote tweet things a lot is most of my retweets are just so that I put a, I'm bookmarking them basically. I'll see a story and I'll be like, oh, that's big.

I want to keep that in mind. So I'll quote tweet it like, whoa, and then I'll share it. But quote tweeting turns a tweet into your tweet. So it's now your engagement. A retweet is their engagement. A quote tweet is your engagement. It seems like he's trying to get rid of quote tweets though, or at least make them less accessible.

Every time I click on a tweet now and I try to look at the quote tweets, it's like they're not visible. Or you have to like press five different buttons to get to like view post engagement because he probably wants you to reply like it's all you know when you're just trying to completely dunk on someone with facts and logic yeah you don't reply to them you you quote tweet them right to send your army of minions to to mob them yes well which is much much more fun the next step is when you know when tucker carlson announced he was doing that his show on x everybody assumed it was a cash deal

and then elon said no no no we're not doing that but if elon came out and said like and like he's wondering why russell brand said all my shows are now on rumble and elon's like hey what about us we're defending you it's like elon dude rumble's probably giving him eight figures or something i don't know what the deal is but they're they're probably paying russell brand fat stacks to be on rumble elon you can't just be like hey what about me okay well how much are we gonna pay him they don't have an exclusive deal with russell brand though right because he still has that like six million following on youtube it's a big deal to walk away from that did you guys he got demonetized yeah did you follow up i heard that there's advertiser pressure on against rumble they're like or the british parliament or something people

were trying to aim it what was that situation parliament sent a letter to the rumble executives and was like it was worded like emotional terrorism like we would like to know what you're doing to protect alleged victims and you know we're concerned about protecting the creator environment and we're concerned that russell brand is making money off of his content that has nothing to do with his allegations i've been concerned about like um advertisers pulling and trying manipulating social media markets by being like you know if you if you have that person on there we're not gonna we're not gonna to give our Ford automotive money to YouTube. That's how it's been.

So it has been. But mine's just trying to figure out a different way we have crypto that you can use in-site so you get rewarded for activity and so you get crypto that you can use in the site to boost your posts. It's kind of like, so this outside force. So I hope X, I hope he's not too reliant on advertisers because he hired Linda Iaccarino and I don't know her, but I've heard that they're more concerned about like like we don't want crappy posts to be visible we

want the bad things to be hidden and the good stuff to be seen because that's what advertisers want let's let's let's do a hard segue i really want to talk about this story this is forbes.com trump family insists mar-a-lago worth over 1 billion dollars after judge calls value wildly inflated here's what it might really be worth. I'll give you the gist. The judge says it's worth around $18 million. That's the amount you make on Twitter every month. That's ridiculous.

It's crazy, right? You know, just a humble $18 million. Okay, they say, anger on the judge. Determination that Trump inflated the value, blah, blah, blah, is based on an appraisal from Paul Beach County Assessor which found the market value of the 17 and a half acre property between 2011 and 2021 to be 18 million and 27.6 million let me first break down what is absolutely insane about this okay anybody who owns property knows the tax assessed value is not what you list the property for when you sell it right so the idea that trump is he's being asked what's it worth he's like well if i was

going to sell it i'd say 400 500 million the tax assessor is saying 30 million that's the tax assessor that's the government that's their that's their business trump deciding it's worth more is not him inflating it the government is the arbiter of the value of homes just the taxation so look at i gotta tell you man this if this is true this means every single home buyer has been defrauded fraud of course so i'm i i i'm you know what this is awesome for me because what i'm going to do now is i'm going to take this judge's ruling in new york i'm going to go look at some New York City real estate, two to three commercial acres in Brooklyn with a tax assessed value of $200,000. And I'm going to go to the person selling it for $5 million

and say, if you don't sell this to me for $200,000, I will have you investigated for fraud because the value, according to this judge, is what the tax assessor says, not you. Sell it for $200,000 or else. And that strategy is going to work just so long as the person you say that to is the leader of the Republican Party in an election year.

Then you're good. It's going to happen. Exactly, exactly. But no, they'd be like, screw off. I'm not selling you my commercial property for $200,000. Okay. Then you go and complain, file a suit in this judge's court, go to Letitia James and say, here's your opportunity to get Trump.

Prove that you really do think the property value is what the tax assessor says and sell me this hot $5 million property for $200,000. I mean, to be fair, I wouldn't be able to sell it after that, so I wouldn't want it. True. That would destroy the property value of New York. The thing about Mar-a-Lago, first of all, is it's a super nice club. I've only gotten to go once or twice, and I expected it to be kind of cheesy and gold and Trumpy. It's, it's just a beautiful, extremely well-established club on beautiful property, but even put that aside for a second. Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino,

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Well, I mean, with inflation in the last three years inflation if like yeah 30 percent our economy is like 20 percent yeah like if something was a dollar it's a dollar 20 now i mean i don't know exactly the numbers but like four years ago our national debt was like 27 i got a million now it's 34 trillion or something like that that's i got it i got it pulled up in the value this is zillow and this is mar-a-lago mar-a-lago goes beach to beach it's got water on both sides yeah oh this is nice this so so i want you to understand this whole plot right here and i believe it might include this but i'm not sure who owns this one but this one doesn't have a listing on it and they said it's beach to beach

so i would i would imagine it's probably trumps but i'm not sure okay it says 24.2 million on zillow in fact a few years ago it said 400 and yeah zillow changed it apparently this is my understanding i read an article that said that i could be wrong i'll be careful here but hold on you see how big it is you see this itty bitty thing right here? 56.8 million. Wow. Something does not make sense. Why is Zillow showing Mar-a-Lago 17.5 acres as 24 million and then up here literally next to Mar-a-Lago, a much, much smaller property. And much less valuable because it's obviously not beach to beach. Right.

And it's double the price. Wow. So this property, it's off the market let's pull up the home details it's uh 1.76 acres and it's estimated value this i want to make sure this is clear this is a zillow estimate not a market appraisal value zillow is saying this property is 56 million dollars but mar-a-lago is 24 mar-a-lago is 24. Mar-a-Lago is 17.51 acres. Beach to beach. And it's a club that generates $25 million per year.

This little house right here. Look at this. This little itty bitty house right here. Is worth $2 million more than Mar-a-Lago? In what reality? Look at this one. This tiny one right here. $30 million.

If you pulled up here and said, oh, this house is 30 million dollars, and then you look at Mar-a-Lago, how come I can't get the 17 acres, right? Sell me that one. That's cheaper. That's insane. But of course, look, there's no logic to it. We could yell about it until we're blue in the face. They don't care whatsoever. The point of this ruling is to say, hey, Trump, we took away your election, perhaps, and Trump, we took away some of your money, and Trump, we're going to take away your freedom because we're going to put you in prison, and now we're going to take away your business,

just because, just because we want to. Look at this, look at this. Right here, just south of Mar-a-Lago, on this other side, $100 million for this seven-bedroom. $100 million. Yo, three and a half acres. I'm wondering what the ramifications of this ruling is going to be. Cause right now the people who live in Palm beach, all of them are angry that a judge just ruled Mar-a-Lago is worth 20 million because now yeah you're the you invested in property in west palm beach thinking your value is going to go up someone bought a property for

20 million now the judge is saying it's worth less than a million dollars but forget i mean by the way west palm beach which is on the mainland that property is worth a ton of money we're talking about palm beach oh right right we're talking about the real job west palm beach actual palm beach like the number might make some sense in west palm beach but it but it's all just a farce no one no one takes this seriously right no one takes the four indictments seriously no it's it's just letitia james who who brought the case ran for office saying i'm i'm gonna get trump and this is all going on in new york why they're talking about trump's property in florida no one even really knows it's just it's just a joke and the sad part is it might work right i mean it's well it's going to work if you're in a communist

state where the law doesn't matter and and so in the instant so let me show you this tweet from kyle kalinsky kyle said mar-a-lago gets revenue of 25 million a year its value uh it's valued at max 75 million you idiots claimed it's worth 739 million you did this with virtually all of your properties to inflate net worth and get loans from banks on more favorable terms fraud kyle's completely wrong about all of this yeah and it's shocking because i like kyle but this his his past few tweets on all of this stuff shows that he didn't actually look at any of it. First of all, the Trump family valued the property between $400 and $600, not $739. Second, why would the value of a 17-acre piece of real estate, a hard asset, only be valued based on the revenue generated by the business?

If you were to remove the business outright, we're talking about a piece of property, 17 acres in Palm Beach, comparables are, would put, the comparables of the acreage, just the acreage with no property, puts this property at a billion dollars with no business on it. You add $25 million a year, we're probably looking at $1.25 to $1.5 billion as a business property. It's just simple the scary thing about what kyle is saying is that his the point he made was that the the elicit leticia james gave a press conference that proves it the judge then issued a summary judgment with no trial sanctioned trump's lawyers banged the gavel and said dissolve the trump organizations you committed fraud no trial no defense no evidence just a press conference and the judge says yes and these people are celebrating it so you know i was talking to andy no and he was asking if it was wrong if i thought it was wrong that people on the right keep calling the left communists because

they call people on the right fascist and i'm like well the right's not fascist but the left is communist and i don't mean literally every single person but there's the banality of evil and malicious evil there are people who are working in service to communism while not realizing it and then there are people who are literally doing it they make the same argument on the right about fascism the only problem is dave smith who they call a fascist completely disagrees with everything trump does or 99 of it right so you can't say he's in service something he does he opposes outright but this is the narrative they're going with right now and now they're actually just i mean i'm looking at this

i tweeted in response to what kyle said carl benjamin was just here said you were right they eventually all just become communists they are now basically saying if the state says so, it is so. And, you know, if I mean, one can talk about all the isms all day long and communism and socialism are a consequence of liberalism, you know, centuries ago. But even just the libs have this problem, which is liberalism boils down to maximizing individual autonomy. And what that boils down to, I mean, we see this in the absurdities of all of the identity ideologies that have proliferated today. But what that boils down to is a diminishing of the importance of objective reality, of things like law, of things like, I don't know, real estate prices relative to bondage, but all of these things that that goes away i mean

if if a man can claim that he is a type of thing that he is not and be granted uh you know that that right in society then we're untethered from reality and so maximum individual expression makes the law into nothing more than a a way to wield a cudgel and beat your enemies and and so we're going to be debating about the law and the objective value of this property but they don't care they're just gonna they're just gonna smack trump and i'll just just add west palm beach 0.3 acre lot 5.5 million dollars 0.3 wow so let's do 15 per acre now do 17 acres and uh yeah but you know i mean think that's west palm beach it's kind of like in a war you know in a war when the conqueror conquers the conquered he can either say all right

give me tribute payments i own you now you're conquered give me tribute payments or they can come up with some silly fakakta kind of legal document that says, well, actually, in reparation for the war, you need to pay us X amount. But it's just a legal veneer to cover what is just brutal, basic politics. And that's what's going on right here. So if this decision is thrown out, which it certainly should be, they'll just do some other version of it. Because none of this has anything to do with the value of Mar-a-Lago or Trump's businesses or the bank loans he got or any of it. It obviously only has to do with the 2024 election. It has to do with the fact that they view this man as a danger to their political project.

And so if this stuff doesn't hold up in court, they'll just kill him at a certain point. They're just going to kill. I mean, that is the end goal of all of this. That's what Alex Jones was saying, too. Not that that means it's true. I'm just saying he no it didn't let me go that is exactly what that plane crash or something yeah let me let me rephrase it then you know they will they will kill him i can't do it yours is better than mine how are you guys i don't i disagree i don't think so you don't think i got a better alex jones than my thing mine is i don't think i don't think i

don't think trump's life is in danger. So this strategy changed a long time ago. Political assassinations immoralize ideologies. You end up with their faces painted. I mean, look, Kurt Cobain dies and they paint his face all over all these buildings in a bunch of different cities. So what they do now is character assassination, which they do to Trump. The problem is it doesn't work. It just doesn't work with him. But this is why i say civil war that's why i don't i don't i don't think that this ends with

them being like okay we have to stop trump by any means necessary it starts with them saying the system is broke there's no there's no moving forward there's no hot conflict i they definitely don't want to make him a martyr but that's why they invented the heart attack gun and stuff where it doesn't look like an assassination it's just like he died in his hotel room it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't matter well i don't want to talk too much about john john john f kennedy gets shot and immediately conspiracy theories the cia did it and now ron paul comes on tim caster island says it comes on irl saying the cia did it it is now basically mainstream rfk is saying that you you can't your heart attack gun it's not going to work anything bad happens to trump instantly all trump supporters believe it was it was malicious

something something bad happened if the aspartame and big max haven't gotten them already you know i don't buy a heart attack okay no they're gonna they're going for character and they're destroying his net worth now yeah they are they are trying to make him a homeless person that's the only thing they can do if anything bad happens to trump whether it's and whether it's him being mugged or his plane crashing or he just has a heart attack from big macs and and diet coke he will be immortalized that's it's very true man you want to strip them of their wealth you want them to fade into obscurity and be forgotten about you want their children to have no no errors no titles you don't want any of that because that's just a headache in the future so they're trying to take it all away from him and his family exactly essentially digital banishment

so what do they do so one you've got the prosecutions put him in prison yeah immobilize him basically strip him of his resources strain him so he can't run and it can't be as influential they are basically just attaching as many weights as possible to Trump. So, so they make him ineffective. The next thing we just saw them do a judge summarily ruled. That means there's no trial. A judge just banged a gavel.

The Trump organization is to be dissolved in 10 days. Yeah. So what's that? Some random judge just said, yeah, now do they be like, okay, nah,

we're going to do some real law. Uh, well they're filing an appeal. But what will happen, because we are in civil strife territory, civil war territory, this judge says it. You know for a fact New York Democrat government is going to be like, oh, well, canceled. Trump organization dissolved. There's not going to be some princi principal person in the democrat trifecta new york state going well i mean this is a little crazy for the judge to rule this i don't think no

they're going to be like okay hopefully there's wealthy businessmen in the democratic party that are going to be like this could happen to me if they can just go bang bang and dissolve people's there's never a selfless thought like that no there are a few you get like do we want to live in a world where trump has nothing left to lose isn't that a little bit scarier get on baby let's go then what he has now and also since he's been you know digitally banished like you said ian why is he still waiting to come back to twitter that's the only platform he has left i mean he's not really using it right but he did post the mugshot that's why that's it though but he's he's not saying enough he's it's because whatever he posts on truth is instantly reposted already yeah but when he does post on x it's

major breaking news huge so he's he's using that like like bike shot. I do wonder if if this goes through, if this ridiculous judge and Letitia James get their way, does it really matter? I mean, one, will it dissolve the Trump organization? But two, it's not like Donald Trump makes automobiles. You know, it's not like Donald Trump makes widgets. The company is him. It's just him. It's his name. It's his face. It's his name. It's his face.

It's his lifestyle. It's his imprimatur on various other products. So can't he just start it again? Can't it just be Trump Organization 2, Electric Boogaloo, and this one's going to be registered in Tennessee instead of New York? But I mean, I think they're seizing the properties. I mean, how is this going to operate? Some of the companies that are being dissolved are just holding companies right so uh so for people who aren't familiar when you're

buying a property you form an llc which owns the company but they're gonna they're gonna take his actual properties but who if they're dissolving the company then who retains ownership of the property they've dissolved the entity that owns it yeah i don't know fire so i don't know can we start bidding on it they're calling it the corporate death penalty if the company owns the property and the company gets dissolved who owns the property it goes to auction at that point but and that's crazy if if you as a human being ian crossland own property and then you're 80 years old and you pass on and you have no next of kin or whatever who gets the property well the state will probably just take it i think that's what happens if you die and there's no one else or it goes to your next of kin or whatever a corporation doesn't have any of that the

corporation is gone where does the property go i imagine it would be the same as if somebody died i just don't know i mean that's just so that is like fidel castro level stuff and i don't i don't doubt that they want to do it i just can't imagine the american people put up with that i assume there have got to be some reasonable Democrats. I know that's a bad assumption, but people who don't want the entire system of business law to be totally upended in the United States just because they hate the mean orange man. But maybe not. Maybe they're irrational enough to do something like that. I think you're right.

You know, it's just a matter of people being aware of what the hell's happening a lot of times, too. I just love this is also another species of one of the dumb anti-Trump attacks, which is, you know, he's not really that rich. I always loved that in 2016. Some guy who doesn't have two pennies to rub together. You know, Trump's actually he's broke. Like, well, he flies around in a 747 for his entire adult life. So if he's broke, he's doing a good job fooling all of us. He's living off a debt. He knows how to work the system. You're supposed to have debt and not pay it back if you know he's doing a good job fooling all of us. He's living off a debt. He knows how to work the system.

You're supposed to have debt and not pay it back if you know if you're a good businessman. It's not that he doesn't pay. He does pay it back. You pay it back as little as possible just to keep the banks happy. And then you use all that loan, that investment money to reinvest to make more than the interest that you owe. You have a billion dollars cash in, $999 million cash out, and then a million in your pocket every month or something like that so it's a massive rotation but i loved when they were saying donald trump's a failed businessman he's had five bankruptcies or whatever and then i was like success in business if you can pull off

a successful bankruptcy but it's not that it's that bankruptcy doesn't mean you've lost it's bankruptcy protection to preserve the business secondly Secondly, Trump had over 500 businesses and only a small handful, uh, bankrupt. Then they said, whatever happened to Trump steaks or Trump magazine or Trump water. See, where are those things?

And I was like, all of those things are at Trump's golf resorts. Exactly. Go to Trump Doral and you will get a bottle of Trump water. You will see a Trump magazine. You will be delivered a Trump steak to your room. What they don't understand is these companies Trump started are just Trump supplying his own product to cut costs for his golf resorts. Vertical integration.

Yeah, right. McDonald's makes their own mayonnaise. Yes, exactly. But also. McDonald's brand mayonnaise. It's not in stores. They failed. I mean, he tried, you know, he tried the airlines and now he's just got his plane.

Right. But then they say, see, he failed at that airline. I've noticed that every single successful person on planet Earth has failed a lot of times. That is that is one of the markers of success. Most of them have failed more than anyone has even tried to succeed at anything else. So I just don't see how that even that's enough. Well, of the 5000 things the man's ever done, one of them flops like, OK, that's pretty good. Yeah, Not bad. Was Trump University like his biggest flop?

Trump University was probably the silliest flop. Yeah. But it wasn't the biggest property he had, though. And also, I have a PhD from there. I heard it was a scandal. Is it real? What was the scandal about Trump? Well, it's not like, you know, it's not a school like, you know, Stanford or Harvard or something, meaning if you send your kid to Trump University, the kid won't end up trans, you know, or hating you when they graduate.

It's the whole accreditation system, in my opinion, is meaningless. It's not accredited. Well, I don't know if it was. I don't believe it was. I think it was just like a kind of scammy sounding company. But, you know, they're like a billion of these things. I think it was more so that it just didn't get going yeah trump tried to start a thing got a bunch of people in went nowhere and then it fell apart and they were like

yo what the you know yeah but i mean does anyone really think trump university is more of a scam than like half of the actually accredited universities in america today less of a scam it's less of a scam you're right let's uh let's jump to this story because last night uh we had social breakdown in Philadelphia. Philly police arrest 52 people in connection with rioting and looting. So basically, last night you had absolute insanity in Philadelphia. Over 100 people running around, smashing windows, breaking into stores and liquor stores, just stealing whatever they wanted. And they didn't care.

They didn't care about the police. They didn't care about what was going on and the police can't stop it there was an influencer named meatball yeah live stream got arrested um for stealing bread from an apple store bread bread yeah wait what just to you know they're they're just trying to get by just trying to get food that's right to keep surviving, because that's what AOC said, right? That they're just struggling to get by.

It's feeling bad for meatball right now. I was picturing just meatballs in a nice juicy hoagie roll and I kind of lost track of the story for a second. But yeah, do they feed their families

with Dior handbags? I don't know. Well, what they did was when they stole all the Apple products and went outside, the alarms on the dices

went off saying you're being tracked so they smashed them all yeah but this is this is my point that i made earlier when i talk about social breakdown let me spell it out for you if police are not held accountable when they commit crimes then you get this what do you think the political equivalent of this would be so i'll, so I'll give an example. Uh, I don't believe that all cops are bad. I think that's silly.

Uh, the, the ACAB people are, are, are nuts. I think police have a purpose, but the problem is when we get instances of police impropriety, we are not likely to get accountability.

I can speak to an example when, uh, the example I often give of when I filmed the police wrongly arrest a photographer in New York who then filed a false police report and lied and additionally lied under oath to try and convict a guy who had done nothing wrong. The police claimed that he was standing in the middle of the street blocking traffic when he was on the sidewalk and I filmed him on the sidewalk and they arrested him. Cops lied. They just didn't want a photographer taking pictures of

what they were doing. There was never any accountability for those cops. Now, you get a piece of information like that. It's a problem. How do we fix it? I don't know. There's got to be a solution to it. The leftists propagandize that, amplify it, and then lie about other instances because this seed means you get a George Floyd, you get an Ahmaud Arbery, no one will trust the police.

It doesn't matter if you're a fan of the cops or not. The point is this the more stories you get and the more videos you get of police and propriety going unpunished you'll end up with people like this saying the police have no jurisdiction over me why would i listen to the these gang members if and this is what i've explained before if a gang member steps your house and says i'm the boss boss now, do as I say, you'd be like, get out of here. If a cop shows up, now you're like, okay, I got to call my lawyer. They have a warrant. Now I got to listen.

What's happening now is police are being viewed no different than another gang. Now think about the political equivalent to this. If politicians in Congress can insider trade with no accountability, we know they're corrupt. We know they're taking these dirty deals. We know they're playing dirty games in politics we now know that democrats are going after trump supporters they're going after the president himself they're solving his businesses what's the political equivalent you're going to get factions of in combination with this and the politics what you will see is regular guys in their neighborhoods starting neighborhood

watches. They're going to say the police won't stop the crime. The police can't be held accountable. The government is going to arrest us. We have to protect ourselves. What happens when you get 56 different factions all throughout the United States in their small town areas asserting their jurisdiction outside of the county, the state, or the federal government. Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there.

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it i don't want to sound like i'm just trying to make lemonade out of lemons here. And I'd like to avoid civil war if we can do that. But if people have a little bit more situational awareness now and people don't spend their time hanging around downtown Philly because it's gone up in flames and people start exercising their rights and working with their neighbors to say, hey, you know, we're not gonna make sure this is a small town try that in a small town man yeah i mean look these guys could be could be canceled right but like i don't know i like a little accountability so so here's what i imagine these people are smashing businesses and flash mobbing all over the place it's been happening non-stop for several years now and it's getting worse this is the worst we've seen not only are they targeting stores now you have 100 people running through the shopping district and smashing up a bunch of stores and the police are only able to stop

around half you're going to get people who say try that in a small town try that in a small town what's the implication there the implication is that we in a small town will defend ourselves we will shoot you that is the subtext and here's what happens there will be people in a small town will defend ourselves. We will shoot you. That is the subtext. And here's what happens. There will be people in a neighborhood, in a suburb, in a blue state that will have guns. The police will show up and say, we are coming to take your guns away.

And those people are going to be like, F you, no you're not, because you don't protect us from the flash mobs and the roving gangs that are shooting at us and killing people and the police are going to say shut your mouth and get on your knees welcome to a modern lexington and concord i don't think that that'll it'll come to that though it seems like maybe maybe because we got the internet maybe because we're american we've got

this culture that the cops are kind of like pissed off at this like local cops don't want to go harass people and take their weapons they don't want to create that kind of pissed off at this. Local cops don't want to go harass people and take their weapons. They don't want to create that kind of animosity. I don't agree. I think if a cop gets in order to go take some guy's gun, they're going to be like, no, no, you do it, dude. I'm not going to step in front of that guy's Second Amendment right. I got one for you, Ian.

If the police were ordered to arrest local community members in their own city because foreign nationals had entered do you think the cops go back i'm not going to arrest the guy who lives here because you want me to protect a foreign citizen do you think they do it i don't know they did it already the police in staten island arrested the local residents who were protesting their government shipping in non-citizens and paying them. The police arrested the people who lived there. How about the guy who was in his own home when BLM showed up protesting? And the man in his own home, knowing these guys had set fire to another house recently, brandished a weapon.

The cops went into his house and arrested him. You know the sad part of all of this? I mean, that's all pretty sad. I think people will just probably go along with it. I like to think they're going to say, no, I'm going to stand up for my rights and my way of life. But man, if even Staten Island can be pushed around, those are like the most obnoxious, you know, sort of stubborn people.

We talked about this last night. The American Revolution took 20 years. It started in 1764 and it went until 1783. The revolution started one year and a month before the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the Battle of Lexington and Concord, which wasn't really a battle, it was a bunch of farmers shooting at effectively police. The reason why that marked the start, the shot heard around the world was because before this, everyone said exactly what you were just saying right now. No one's going to stand up for themselves. No one's ever going to get into conflict with the regulars no one will stand against the crown until one day

when the crown said we're coming to take your guns and they went to the militias in the rural parts of massachusetts and they said over our cold dead hands someone started shooting we don't know who i i think it's fair to assume it was the americans who opened fire on on the crown first i think it was drunk some drunk militia man like, yeah! I don't think that was it at all. I think 300 regulars marching down the street pointing muskets at you and one guy, 18 farmers were just like,

I'm done with it. This is my fear. But the problem is, I don't see an offering. As Phil Labonte describes it. Because all we ask for is like, guys, it's really simple. Police, you can't arrest a local resident

because they're upset you shipped in non-citizens to their neighborhood and are giving them their tax dollars. Let me make this clear for everybody. Non-citizen illegally enters the country, gets a free bus ride or plane ride to your hometown, to Staten Island, to where you live. Your tax dollars to New York City are now paying these non-citizens who also have police protections from you and special protected status that AOC has fought for. They're working underground jobs. They're not paying taxes.

Yo, I'm sorry, man. I'm deeply concerned about things like that. I'm deeply concerned about the fact that Colorado has no abortion restrictions and Oklahoma has total abortion restrictions, hyperpolarization, but most importantly, the immigration thing, I think, is the scariest thing. Yeah, but think about how effective it's been. You know, we're paying attention to it now in particular because you see the crazy stuff in Staten Island or you see Lampedusa gets overrun with more migrants than citizens of the island. But this has been going on now for about 65 years. The movement of people into the United States over the last 65 years

is the largest movement of people ever in recorded history. So, you know, the hour is a bit late on this issue. And there's this bizarre fact that no matter which party you elect, you just get more migration. The hour is a bit late, but all that means to me is that it'll be worse than it should have been if 50 years ago or whenever it started people just said hey we're stopping this right now there's no conflict you just sign the paperwork and things are done maybe a little heated arguments

in congress but now we're talking about million a million plus people per year now we're at the point where the people who hey look man all that is required for evil to triumph is good men do nothing. Good people do nothing. Right. And so the people of Staten Island for mostly men, I think we know. Right. Sure. But but the people of Staten Island did nothing.

These are people who who pay taxes and support a machine and say, leave me out of it. I don't care about politics. I don't think about that stuff. That's the one Republican borough. There you go. And then one day they wake up and there's a bus being shipped in of non-citizens and they're saying hey your tax dollars everyone's got to pitch in for these guys and they're like wait these 20 year old men from el salvador and well i'm sorry not el salvador salvador is doing really well everyone's moving

back but from guatemala and you know seriously though but from honduras and guatemala who are fleeing here then when they come out and they say, hey, get this bus out of here. The cop looks him straight in the eyes with a joker grin and says, I will crack you over the skull if you stop what we are doing to your home. And then what happens? The cops beat and arrest the people who live there to protect the noncitizens. Yeah, this is unsustainable. No, it's insane.

I guess, though, that's my point, is that the the republican borough with the tough italian staten islanders most people haven't even heard this story nothing really happened so look maybe something right right but this is you're saying just wait and it'll well so if the the revolutionary period started in 1764 and it took 11 years to get to the point where people were opening opening fire on regulars you know we could be eight years away or to the point where people were opening opening fire on regulars you know we could be eight years away or if the four if the strass house generational theory is correct then we're looking at maybe four i think in four years we're in deep trenches of serious conflict in in our urban in the united states yeah what about the world do you think i can't

imagine that something would happen united states and not the rest of the world like it would be a global firestorm if something like that were to go down. If the U.S. destabilizes in this way, China immediately takes Taiwan. And try and take the Western United States. It would be like land grab central. Like if the Civil War or the Revolutionary War was a French opportunity to take control of the Atlantic Ocean by demolishing the British. And they did that. So when you make a good point to Ian, which is, you've already got this, this difficult situation we're in where the the West

led by America is decaying, and China is largely on the rise. So you're seeing what people are calling the inevitability of a bipolar world already. So cracking US hegemony for the first time since the Cold War is over and frankly even a little earlier than that so when you when you have a shift in the world order to that degree it almost always ends in war in a world war so is it possible that just as we're on the brink of our civil war and you know pulling out our muskets to shoot our cousins uh that we find ourselves in a global conflict already where the stakes are even higher. Yep. Does Russia advance knowing that the United States is completely destabilized? And if Russia does do a larger push, say, with nuclear artillery, and I use that as an example

because I'm sure they have other weapons and other techniques that could be divisive and powerful, but a nuclear weapon creates a hyperpolarization in states one side the left saying this is our cassus belly we must stop vladimir putin and the right would say this is your fault we should not have been in ukraine in the first place you caused this we need to extract and and and and remove ourselves now and then what happens Do you think after a nuclear artillery is dropped in Ukraine, that there's, I mean, this would extreme political instability

already in this country. They're not going to have the public support to warrant sending more troops, more dollars, more resources to Ukraine. We now know, thanks to CBS, surprisingly, that the US is not only funding the war, we're funding the small businesses of ukraine right when the federal government shuts down ukraine will still uh the u.s will be paying

the salaries of ukrainian citizens while not paying veterans benefits now i do think matt gate said they did get a measure through a single subject spending bill to guarantee veterans benefits they're duking it out right now i mean mean, as we're speaking, they're on the floor of the house right now duking this out. But the thing I love about this government shutdown, look, we now shut down the government every year, so I don't even pay attention to it, really. This is just this year's shutdown. And the thing I love about it is that it's going to show you who really runs your government. Because just as you say, we're going to shut down all non-essential services, but those paychecks to the shop owner in ukraine they're going to keep going it doesn't matter

what the people in congress say i i i think for for most i think most people in this country don't care you tell them that tax dollars are going to ukraine they're going to be like i i can't see it right i'll tell you something funny in uh you ever play poker you play text so you're familiar with table rake versus time rake no okay go to a casino and most of them do what's called a table rake where that that's every every every hand everyone gets dealt two cards everybody puts money in and then you can increase the wager and if you can't if you don't want to pay it you fold the casinos typically take five to seven dollars out of the pot as what's called a table rake so every hand that's dealt they will pull 10 up to six dollars and put it in their bin

that means if they're doing 20 to 30 hands per hour times six dollars some some card clubs do what's called a table rake which is i'm sorry a time rake every half an hour everyone pays seven dollars if you do what's what's called time rake you physically pick the money up and hand it to the to the dealer and you're like that sucked if you do a table rake you never know because the dealer is pushing you your winnings and pulling from it without you realizing and people beg for table rake which takes substantially more money away from them You never know because the dealer is pushing you your winnings and pulling from it without you realizing. And people beg for table rake, which takes substantially more money away from them. The reason I bring this up is when it comes to us funding Ukraine, so long as the American people can't see the money extracted from their accounts, they won't care. Right.

As soon as if it was if Joe Biden said everyone's going to we're going to debit your bank account $5 to fund the war in Ukraine, there would be a riot. It would be over in one second. But, you know, what they're really going to do is it's all funny money. And we're so incredibly in debt at this point that people don't even pay attention to it. And even if the Congress doesn't approve more appropriations for Ukraine, which is possible, what's going to happen is they're going to just discover another six billion dollars the part of remember this was a few months ago they discovered six billion dollars they meant to send to ukraine and that that wasn't really true that's not really what happened what really happened is the political powers who were running our war in ukraine our side of the war in ukraine they decided that ukraine needed some more stuff so they retroactively

changed the price of the weapons that we sent over and said no actually look we appropriated this amount of money and it turns out those weapons they were cheaper than we thought we just yeah we figured it out though and anyway so we're going to send them more but it's okay we're not spending any more money because we just retroactively changed the prices okay great it's it's it's going to be interesting to see how people respond to the fact that our government shuts down and we keep paying Ukrainians. It's like, well, your government won't pay you government employee, but the Ukrainians get their paycheck. Have a nice day. Frankly, I'd rather pay the Ukrainians than the IRS.

I mean, I agree. I need help. I got nothing against the Ukrainians. I have a lot against the IRS. Yeah, I think that if we cut it's like here's the deal you know actually you know what i i will i will completely agree with funding ukrainian small business and their first responders that's as far as i go i don't care for the war stuff their first responders saving lives they're small businesses but the money needs to come from the irs the atf the fbi the cia and the nsa f too, because they screw with my cigars. Get rid of them too. Yeah, none of that. So you shut down the FBI and use the money to fund the war in Ukraine.

That way you please everyone. You please everyone. Okay. Hear that, Vivek? Yeah, compromise for all the viewers. Would you agree with those terms? We will abolish the ATF, FBI, and CIA, but we do have to use the money

that would have gone to those branches to send it to Ukraine. That's a good pull. Do you guys and you can't speak for Daily Wire, but I kind of ask you just in general, the talk around the office and stuff. We talk a lot about the solutions to the political is like in the private sector. Is that where your head's at? That's my some of my colleagues think that they're they're much more into, you know, doing things through the private sector and culture. I want to use the heavy hand of the law, baby. You know, look, there's a role for both of these things.

But I just fear sometimes when conservatives focus exclusively on politics being downstream of culture, we forget that that the law is also a teacher. And I think sometimes what politicians do is they use that phrase, which is true enough in itself, politics is downstream of culture. They use that as an excuse not to do anything and not to pass any laws and not to wield any power. They just say, oh no,

we need to make better movies or whatever. Yeah, no, no. The movie makers are better movies. You're in Congress. You need to use your political power, man. Well, the debate's starting. You guys ready? Oh, yeah.

Let's do it. Here we go. I can't wait. Bergamentum, baby. Oh, you're all debate's starting. You guys ready? Let's do it. Here we go. I can't wait. Bergamentum, baby. Oh, you're all about Bergam. I love it. I'm a big Bergam guy. Shout out to Rumble. My co-moderators, Fox News Channel,

Dana Perino and Ilya Kolderol. Wow. It's a very exotic panel. Fix your audio, please. Thank you, Stuart. President Reagan famously described America as a shining city on a hill. panel fix your audio rifle coffee company thank you thank you story president reagan famously described america as a shining city on a hill and tonight seven candidates will make the case they should be the one to leave that city into a brighter tomorrow but first they have to convince

you they're not going to i'm voting for trump please allow me to welcome our spanish-speaking audience right it was perfect what the what the hello is this oh why are we speaking a foreign language in an american presidential debate oh it's sp Spanish in Florida, you know. They are positioned by the order they rank in the polls with the highest polling candidate in the middle. It's not DeSantis. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. I guess technically.

The pain in his eyes. No, but what I'm saying, Nikki Haley's beating him in polls. In New Hampshire, she is. I think that's on national issues. Yeah, that's great. Wow. A bunch of polls show I had to have matchups with

Biden. Nikki Haley is winning. Sanders is losing. I believe it. I believe that. People underestimate Nikki, and she's moderate, so conservatives don't like her sometimes. She's talented. She is, but I don't like... She's too Warhawk-y. You're not going to vote for her.

Doug Burgum. Burgum. There he is. The dark horse. Questions on a wide variety of issues important to primary voters. Oh, we're in the red. Oh, we're in power.

Candidates get one minute to answer and 30 seconds to respond if singled out. When their time runs out, we'll all hear this. Yeah, that means nothing. We have a lot of ground to cover. So please, keep it civilized. When their time runs out, we'll all hear this. Yeah, that means nothing. We have a lot of ground to cover. Can you please keep it civilized?

Dude, this audio is awful. Let's get going. Yeah, it's a hanger. We are in this spacious, sunny place tonight designed to reflect the very nature and character of Ronald Reagan. It's a place that makes you proud to be an American. Yet today our nation is drowning in division and incivility. Voters say they dread the 2024 election and find politics exhausting. Two in three Americans think the country is on the wrong track.

And three in four say the economy is not in good shape. Prices are up 18 percent since 2020. More than half of the U.S. population has little access to child care. Eighty five percent of Americans say their personal finances are a source of stress. Americans want to believe a leader who says you can follow me. I've got you. A lot of wind up for this. I know. Yeah. I've got you. Don't worry. I'm going to wind up for this. I know. Yeah.

I'm like rolling my eyes over here. And yesterday, he joined the picket lines where auto workers are demanding more wages and job security. Stuart Varney has a great voice. That's an improvement over him. I like that lady's accent. Yeah, I know. I like all of them, including Dana. Dana, the only one speaking English.

As it's meant to be spoken. Would you fire thousands of striking auto workers today, Senator? Obviously, the President of the United States cannot fire anybody in the private sector. However, we should look back at the first bill in Congress under Joe Biden. The first bill had $86 billion for the union pensions because they continue to over-promise yet under-deliver. One of the challenges that we have in the current negotiations is that they want four-day French work weeks but more money. They want more benefits working fewer hours. That is simply not going to stand.

I sat in a finance committee hearing when a widow came before the committee who's promised pensions from the unions, $4,000 a month. Unfortunately, it had been cut to $1,000 a month. We must make sure that we honor the commitments that we make. And one of the ways that we do that, do not overpromise and then underdeliver and leave the taxpayers on the hook. I'll say this. Joe Biden should not be on the picket line. He should be on the southern border working to close our southern border because it is unsafe. It was too wonky an intro to that answer, but that was a good one.

Well, he realized he was losing it, and that was like... The border's open! ...the last 12 months because of fentanyl. It is devastating. Every county in America is now a border county because fentanyl has devastated Americans in every single state. I will also say, 6 million illegal crossings...

Because he started out answering the question, which was a very dumb idea because nobody cares about the auto workers, right? Finish the wall, reinstate Title 42, and get the job done. Get it done.

Talk like this. I can promise you that we are going to have a lot of questions on the border and immigration. That man will not be president. In the meantime, we do want to talk about

the economy and jobs. I really like him. I want to talk about this strike for just a moment. I want some DeSantis cringe. I honestly feel bad for DeSantis and I kind of relate to him in a way. Because he's just so inhibited. I like the spirit of it.

I'll say that I don't have a lot of patience for the union bosses. I think that's where he and I actually have a common view. I do have a lot of sympathy for the workers, however. People are going through real hardship in this country. I've been through hardship growing up. My father stared down layoffs at GE under Jack Welch's tenure at the GE plant in Evendale, Ohio. My mom had to work overtime in nursing homes in southwest Ohio to make ends meet and pay off our home loan.

So I understand that hardship is not a choice. But victimhood is a choice. And we choose to be victorious in the United States of America. You know what, if I was giving advice to those workers, I would say go picket in front of the White House in Washington, D.C. That's really where the protest needs to be. Disastrous economic policies that have driven up prices, that have driven up interest rates and mortgage rates. At the same time, wages remaining stagnant. What we need is to deliver economic growth in this country. Unlock American energy. Drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear energy. Put people back to work by no longer paying them more money to stay at home, stabilize the U.S. dollar itself, and rescind a majority of. That is an American vision that we embrace economic growth.

And capitalism is still the best system known to man to lift us up from poverty. And we should not apologize for it. That's what it means to be an American. He's too smart. He's a smart guy, man. He needed a more... He needed an answer that was more like cake. Just a simple sweet treat that he could easily digest.

I like that he corrected this view that he's just a silver spoon kid. I like that he said, I grew up, I had some hardship. Usually I find it cheesy, but it's helpful because no one knows who Vivek is. Is that actually true, though? I don't know. Who knows? I've been friends with him for a while, but I don't know. His parents were immigrants.

But you also support how these companies operate. Which is it? Well, thank you for the question. I want to thank Univision and Fox Business for assembling such a wonderful forum. Look, I do disagree with something Tim Scott just said. Joe Biden doesn't belong on a picket line. He belongs on the unemployment line. I mean, look, I'm from the state in the country. He paused for a clap and nobody gave it to him. We brought 12,000 factories back to America during

our administration. I know something about manufacturing. And I got to tell you, while the union bosses are talking about class warfare and talking about disparity in wages, I have to tell you, I really believe what's driving that is Bidenomics has failed. Wages are not keeping up with inflation. Auto workers and all American workers are feeling it. Families are struggling in this economy. And Joe Biden's Green New Deal agenda is good for Beijing and bad for Detroit. We ought to repeal the Green New Deal, get rid of the mandates and subsidies that are driving American gasoline automotive manufacturing into the graveyard. And beyond that, also, as president of the United States, I'll be standing with workers all across America and I'll be standing for the right to work of every American to join a union or not join a union as they decide. I like that.

Senator Scott, you mentioned when you care to respond. Joe Biden needs to be fired. That's why I'm running for president. I look forward to being the next president of the United States. I will also say I know America can do for each other. Oh, rumble. It's over. Rumble.

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That was great. Thanks for hanging out. Burgum won, I would say. Have you interviewed Vivek? I have, yeah. So Vivek and I go back to college. He was at the law school when I was an undergraduate. And we didn't really know each other in college, but we were in similar circles and groups. And then we reconnected because he started making waves in politics and then five seconds later he was running for president and i thought well that's crazy and then five seconds later

he was pretty good at it you know he's like number two or three he was a libertarian in college were you also libertarian i hate to confess my sins in public but i was a bit libertarian he said he was like pretty libertarian but then he found the inaction or just the the action of the republican party aligned more with his his appetite for politics yeah and he but he also you know he wasn't out doing political activism or anything in in school when he was at the law school he was preparing this company that made him about a bazillion dollars. Let's get rid of unfair distortions like the state and local tax that they give to wealthy people in blue states and paid by red states. And let's make sure we make the small business taxes permanent.

They only made those temporary. They made the corporate taxes permanent. Let's focus on what it takes to get more cash in the pockets of workers. That's when we'll be able to deal with strikes like this, not sitting on a picket line like Joe Biden is. Thank you, Governor Haley. We have other questions to get. When their answers are like, let's fix the problem and offer a solution. Put money in their hands.

Like what? I'm sorry. Go deep. I know they only have 30 seconds. I have to jump in because we're missing the point and every other network is missing the point. The reason why people are striking the Detroit breach is because of Joe Biden's interference with capital markets and with free markets. Yeah. Subsidies.

We're subsidizing the automakers and we're subsidizing the cars and a particular kind of car. Not every car. We're particularly, we're subsidizing electric vehicles. That's actually a good point. And when you decide that we're going to take all of your taxpayer money, take a billion dollars, subsidize a certain type of vehicle, and the batteries come from China. China controls 85% of the rare earth minerals.

They're called rare earth because they're measured in parts. I think I'm becoming an unironic. China is moving 100,000 pounds of earth in Indonesia, in Africa. They're literally destroying the planet so that we can make a battery that's in a car subsidized here. That's why they're striking because they need to... It's the most substantive part of any of this debate. This strike is at Joe Biden's feet.

I really like that. That was about him. Wow. He's got stealth. No, not him. Good. Allow me to ask the follow question to Governor Christie. The government will shut down if Congress does not reach a deal by the end of this week. Vice President Pence warns that politics of, quote, Trump's populist protégés, like Mr. Ramaswamy, are a road to ruin for the GOP. If the government shuts down, should voters blame populist Republicans? Voters should blame everybody who's in Washington, DC. They get sent down there to do the job and

they've been failing at doing the job for a very long time. And let's be honest about this with the voters. During the Trump administration, they added $7 trillion, $7 trillion in national debt. And now the Biden administration has put another $5 trillion on and counting. They have failed, and they're in the spot they're in now, because none of them are willing to tell the truth. None of them are willing to take on the difficult issues. They just want to keep kicking the can down the road. And the inflation that Nikki spoke about is absolutely right,

and it's caused by government spending. And that's why people all across this country are suffering tonight and yet we don't get any answers because joe biden hides in his basement and won't answer as to why he's raising the debt the way he's done and donald trump he hides behind the walls of his golf clubs and won't show up here to answer questions like all the rest of us are up here to answer. This is low energy. He put $7 trillion on the debt. He should be in this room to answer those questions.

People talk about who are suffering. And if the government closes, and if the government closes, it is to the blame of everyone in Washington, D.C. who has failed to do their job and just plays to the grandstand. I would rather be eating Pizza Hut pizza than watching reruns of The Simpsons than listen to Chris Christie.

Yeah, he struggles to breathe. I would rather do that than most things. Ironically, it's a very fun thing to do. Governor DeSantis, you have been talking. People in Washington are shutting down the American dream with their reckless behavior. They borrowed, they printed, they spent, and now you're paying more for everything. They are the reason for that. They have shut down our national sovereignty by allowing our border to be wide open.

So please spare me the crocodile tears for these people. They need to change what's going on. And where's Joe Biden? He's completely missing in action from leadership. And you know who else is missing in action donald trump is missing he owes it to you to defend his record he had to go after it added 7.8 trillion to the debt that's like the stage for the inflation trump's's not the president, Ron. Come on. We cut taxes. We ran surpluses. We paid down over 25% of our state debt. And I vetoed wasteful spending when it came to my desk. And as your president, when they send me a bloating spending bill that's going to cause your prices to go up, I'm going to take out this veto pen and I'm going to send it right back to them.

That was a really good answer, Ron. I really appreciate it. Still voting Trump. Don't you agree, though? He's got to go in. At some point, he's got to go in Trump, right? Like, it's almost certainly not going to work, but he's got to do it. Some families are spending up to half of their income on child care, and they're having to decide, is it worth it for me to work or does it not make sense for me financially? In three days, the billions of dollars in pandemic era funding is going to end and 70,000 daycares could close. So you had an effort to broaden eligibility for child care assistance that fell apart last year. And for the moms and dads out there who are worried, what can you tell them? If you weren't able to get it through the Congress, how could you do it as president?

Certainly one of the things I did as a member of Congress was to make sure that we protected the Head Start programs around the country, giving people the opportunity to pick and choose the place that they send their children. The challenges that we see today. Every time it's him yeah the biden administration is that the cost for daycare has gone over 15 000 per child in the build back broker plan he called it a build back better plan it was going up to 29 000 the way we fixed that problem unrelated but i heard this guy is a virgin cut taxes and give more Americans their money back.

Is he going to win the Virgin Pope? We actually lowered a single mother's taxes by 70% on the federal level. For dual income households by 60%. Then we went a step further. We doubled the child tax credit and made it refundable. By doing

that, more parents had more resources to make the decisions how to take care of their family. The one thing we should do is let the American people keep their money. When that happens, the greatest opportunities rise from the ashes. I heard that he enjoys the company. I never go into the border. Ilya mischaracterized. I mean, I did. I was like, it was a big news story.

I don't know. They're saying that he's like a little unloved on the stage. In the regular library, I want to say these are good people on this stage.

I don't know. I've never seen any proof of it. No, I agree. The real divide is between the majority of us in this country who love the United States of America

and share our family ideals. It's crazy how he looks like he's 19. Free speech. He's 20 and a half. He's been working out a lot. He drops his fat. And the fringe minority in the

Democrat Party that has a chokehold over that party. That's the real divide. So this populist versus classical debate is artificial. We need to unite this party. I thought they said abortion, not immigration. The vague slipped a bit. Yeah, he was doing really well before the first debate.

Now he's, I think it's like third or fourth place. Because his last performance was polarizing. Young people loved it, but older people hated it. So I felt it helped him, but he's got to ride that line this time. We got Burgum. Oh, let's go. We pass legislation. Sir, we will get you we pass legislation because we're going to the world they need to shut him up it's too much for them

amnesty because my those down roots and who have lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally. Two years later, President Reagan granted amnesty to nearly three million immigrants, something no Democrat or Republican president has done since. We don't mention that. Governor Christie, as governor of a non-border state in 2010, you supported a path to citizenship. But when you ran for president in 2016, you flipped, saying immigrants should be tracked like FedEx packages. Did you say that? To citizenship for 11 million of undocumented immigrants. The problem is that since no one has done anything since we first had this discussion 13 years ago,

we're not in a position to be able to do any of that anymore. What we have to do now is first treat this like the law enforcement problem it is. Our laws are being broken every day at the southern border. Every day. And Joe Biden and his crew is doing nothing about enforcing that law. They are letting it go. And by the way, they announced during the presidential race they were going to let it go. And we need to have a president who acts like I did as governor enforce the law first and foremost.

And that means what I'll do on day one is sign an executive order to send the National Guard to partner with Customs and Border Patrol to make sure that we stop the flow of fentanyl over the border, but also to make sure that we send a much different message. We want you here in this country to fill the six million vacant jobs we have, but only if you come here to follow the law and only if you come here legally. The majority of Americans want to drastically reduce all immigration. And we will send you back across the border from which you came. And the fact is that until we set a law and order agenda in this country, not only now, but in the future, we won't be able to continue this.

And I'll tell you this. Donald Trump failed on this as well. He said he was going to build a wall across the whole border. He built 52 miles of wall and said Mexico would pay for it. Guess what? I think if Mexico knew that he was only going to build 52 miles, they might have paid for the 52 miles.

Tip your waitress. Most illegal immigrants are coming from countries south of the border. That's your answer to the immigration problem. Get out! You've got to go! You can't stay. Sorry.

Less immigration, more deportation. That's my next question. Yeah. There you go. In the last decade, the U.S. has spent nearly $55 billion to address the root causes of migration. But crime, poverty, and corruption persist, and the number of migrants is only growing. Are we wasting our money? What happens when Joe Biden waved the green flag, it told everybody to come. And now we've seen 6 million people cross the border. We've had more fentanyl that have killed Americans in the Iraq, Vietnam, or Afghanistan wars combined. We need to

make sure that we are a country of laws. The second we stop being a country of laws, we give up everything this country was founded on. So we have to secure the border. The way we do that is, first of all, defund sanctuary cities. You see what's happening in Philadelphia right now. It's got to stop. We need to make sure we put 25,000 more Border Patrol and ICE agents on the ground and let them do their job. I spent 400 miles down that border. What's their job? Just detain them and then arrest them and then release them into the interior of the country? Let's go back to remaining Mexico policy.

Instead of catch and release, let's go to catch and deport. What about the aid that federal taxpayers are paying to deal with the root causes? It's not working? The only aid that we should be spending right now is to secure the border, the southern border, the northern border, period. And I like that Dana pushed the root causes thing, because it's just complete nonsense and we should stop spending it. Only when we fix the immigration system, only when we get the border secure,

should we ever look at putting any more money into this. Our money should be about keeping Americans safe. We're not doing that. Joe Biden's not doing that. And you mentioned Congress and shutting down government. I'll make it clear. We have to change the budget process in four years, in 40 years. Congress has only delivered a budget on time for. Well, that was fun. All right. In 40 years, if they don't keep the government open, they should not get paid. No pay, no budget. That's the way we should. Yes, but she's still on the Omnibus side of things. Governor DeSantis, China invested $12 billion in Latin America just last year.

They signed strategic partnerships with seven countries, including Mexico. And China's military ties to the region now include arms sales and training exercises. Are you comfortable with China deepening ties with our southern neighbors? Of course not. And the reason why we're in this mess is because elites in D.C. for far too long have chosen surrender over strength when it comes to the CCP. Some people in our country got rich, our industrial base got hollowed out, and they have been able to build the second most powerful military in the entire world. We need a totally new approach to China.

We are going to have real hard power in the Indo-Pacific, like Reagan, to deter their ambitions. We're going to have economic independence from China, where we're decoupling our economy. And we are going to go after the cultural power they have in this country. As governor of Florida, I banned the CCP from buying land in our state. We should do that all across these United States. We shouldn't have them in our universities. Good answer. Basically the Trump answer. You see a country in decline, our powers in decline.

China's going to surpass us this decade. And if they do that, that's going to affect every single American household. As your president, I am not going to let that happen. I'm going to reverse this country's decline. We are going to choose strength, not surrender when it comes to the CCP. America is not a country in decline. Under Joe Biden, we are a country in retreat. You proposed, quote, universal deportation for all undocumented people and their children.

Even if the children are citizens of the United States. Under what legal premise will you expel U.S. citizens? So the first thing I want to say is I agree with everything. The Republicans on this stage are on the right side of this issue. Militarize the southern border, stop funding sanctuary cities, and end foreign aid to Mexico and Central America to end the incentives to come across. But I do go a step further. You're right about that, Ilya. I favor ending birthright citizenship for the kids of illegal immigrants in this country. Now, the left will howl about the Constitution and the 14th Amendment. The difference between me and them is I've actually

read the 14th Amendment. What it says is that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the laws and jurisdiction thereof are citizens. So nobody believes that the kid of a Mexican diplomat in this country enjoys birthright citizenship. Not a judge or legal scholar in this country will disagree with me on that. Well, if the kid of a Mexican diplomat doesn't enjoy birthright citizenship, then neither does the kid of an illegal migrant who broke the law to come here. And as the father of two sons, it is hard for me to look them in the eye and say, you have to follow the law when our own government fails to follow its own laws.

Because going back to the old common law, there's some evidence to the contrary, but I'm still with him. I'm totally with him. You were saying there's some issues with common law? So it comes from the Wong Kim Ark decision in 1898, but it goes back further into the English common law centuries and centuries back. If you're born in one's region, under one's reign, then you are a subject thereof.

So it's a tough legal argument to make, but I think it pertains to the 14th. I think he's right. Frankly, if you come here illegally, you are not. So it's a tough legal argument to make, but I think this pertains to the 14th. I think he's right. Frankly, if you come here illegally, you are not. Now, surviving a Supreme Court argument is something I can't tell you. But from a perspective of the Constitution, I think it's simple that clearly it was designed for slavery and not for illegal immigration. It's spreading.

I'll go one step further, though. They're agreeing with me. This is huge. This'll go one step further, though. We'll have a conversation about the things that are happening on the stage. We think about the fact that Vivek just said we were all good people, and I appreciate that, because last debate he said we were all bought and paid for. And I thought about that for a little while and said, you know, I can't

imagine how you could say that knowing that you were just in business with the Chinese Communist Party and the same people that funded that knowing that you were just in business with the Chinese Communist Party, the same people that funded Hunter Biden millions of dollars was a partner of yours as well. This is nonsense. It's not nonsense. So look, here's what I want to respond to. These are good people who are tainted by a broken system.

And it's not the fault of anybody who's involved. Some of us are tainted. Excuse me. Excuse me. Thank you for speaking while I'm interrupting. Literally. Thank you for speaking while I'm interrupting. Literally. Thank you for speaking while I'm interrupting. You can't be on both sides.

Gentlemen, you'll have your turn. One of the challenges... I should have a debate between the big and the big. Chris leaning on the podium. State of American democracy. I just normal did. Just talk until everyone else shuts up.

I only want to hear from Bergo. I agree with Ron DeSantis on China. When every other CEO expanded into the Chinese market, you know what I did with my first company? We opened a subsidiary in China. But you know what I did that was different than every other company? We got the hell out of there. And when I started my next company, Strive, right when I started my next company, we got the hell out of there. And when I started my next company, Strive, right when I

started my next company, Strive, to compete against BlackRock, excuse me, to compete against BlackRock, I made a commitment that we would never do business in China. And I will say something... I think you have more than time to explain. Well, I was interrupted by a lot of people

here, and I want to be respectful, because I believe these are people, but I do not believe in these. We're sitting here in the Reagan Library. Yes, I wish you would do that. In the honor of Ronald Reagan. They need to cut the mics of everyone that's not talking. One at a time. That's what they got to do.

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Vice President Pence in 2017 the Trump administration which put the legal status of 600,000 dreamers in the hands of the courts dreamers work what channel is the Simpsons on

specifically Pizza Hut. Chris is listening now. Hi Apple. Chris is listening. Well, first let me say I'm glad Vivek pulled out of his business deal in 2018 in China. That must have been about the time you decided to start voting in presidential elections. That's actually kind of a thing. So let me speak to this.

Number one, I negotiated the remain in Mexico policy with the Mexican government. We used economic power to bring the Mexican government to the table. We built hundreds of miles of border wall. And despite what's said here today, we reduced illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90%. And as President of the United States, I can do it again. And the truth is, we need to fix a broken immigration system, and I'll do that as well. But first and foremost, a nation without borders is not a nation. And we have to secure the southern border of the United States of America. I know how to do it, and we will do it again.

Let me say one other thing about China. Let me say one other thing about China. Would you negotiate with Congress to give a solution to the problem that dreamers have right now? They are on a limbo. Well, let me tell you, I served in Congress for 12 years, although it seemed longer.

But, you know, something I've done... The Vive on this stage is I've actually secured reform in Congress. You know, Ron, you talk a really good game about cutting spending, but you've increased spending in Florida by 30 percent. When I was a member of Congress in 2006, right after Hurricane Katrina, Dana, you remember it, we stood our ground. I led House conservatives. We cut $100 billion out of the federal budget. You know, this is the old GOP, right, which is just cut, cut, cut. I don't know that that attack lands on DeSantis because the thing people like about DeSantis is that he just brutally wields the government against our enemies like Disney. So I don't really care if he raises.

I care what he spends it on. And we're going to get spending in Washington, D.C. under control once and for all. He sounds like 2010 Biden. Yeah. Kind of true. Nice going. Chris looks like he's about to fall over.

He's like leaning his entire weight on the podium. His gout, his gout is hurting me. The King's disease. So they're going to go take a break. Wow. I just. Do you trust our government and where the economy is? No.

Harder retirement savings. I didn't think so. When the commercials are over, we'll come back. Some takeaways. Chris Christie sounds like he's struggling to breathe, which makes it hard to listen to him, unfortunately. But Pence does, too. Bro, he doesn't sound like he's struggling to breathe.

He doesn't sound like it. He is struggling. He's struggling. And if he was nicer, like more friendly, I think I'd really like him, Chris Christie. I'm sorry, dude. He seems like such a jerk. No one should vote for Chris Christie.

No one. You know why? I don't think anyoneky. You know why? Because he's fat and sick. That's a big part of it. If you can't take care of yourself, how are you going to take care of this country? True.

Discipline. And to be fair, the only pass Donald Trump gets is not based on his health, not based on his diet. It's based on the fact that he's the closest person to firing people who need to be fired. That's it. Because otherwise,

I'd agree and be like, I mean, actually, Trump did lose a lot of weight. What are you talking about? He's a svelte 215. Yeah. I read that in the newspaper. I don't know what you're talking about.

But what about Taft? He was a great president. He was the biggest, fattest guy ever in the history of the world. Really? It's different when you get fat off of like what people

ate back then, you know? That's true. Raw milk and bacon and pies. Yes, like prime rib for breakfast, I assume he was eating. I think you're right because I shouldn't be too hard on Chris Christie's weight

because I think he might actually be a guest in the future and a serious inside... He's going to be like, Ian, I heard what you said about my weight. Well, Chris, you were fat. He's going to say,

maybe shaming him won't work. Ian, I have a glandular problem. Damn! And he smacked the table. It's my thyroid. All Well, Chris, you were fat. He's real talk, brother. Maybe shaming him will work. Ian, I have a glandular problem. Damn! And he slammed the table. It's my thyroid. All right, Chris. But kind of like, in politics,

I'm finding these people that I think I hate. And just from through the media, I end up meeting them in person and I really like them. Yeah. Well, that's a lesson I've talked about before

when I was a teenager and I watched the skate video and me and my friends were all just smack talking to these skaters about how cool we thought we were and how they were losers with their goofy clothes and then we go to california end up meeting them and they were super nice to us and like gave us free food and gear and they're like you guys rock man i was like i feel really bad for talking about that's like for no reason the culture war in a nutshell yeah all this sort

of politicians are just as bad as we think they are. Yeah. Or worse. But the ones that come in here, I like Sean Spicer, for instance. I love him. I got such a horrible view of him through the media. And then I was like, well, I'm going to meet Sean Spicer. Steve Bannon was another one. I was like,

I'm supposed to be afraid of this guy, I guess. Then I meet him and I'm like, oh, these guys are legit. Like just smart, straightforward. Then you see like AOC who tells- She is as bad. She tells her constituents who are yelling at her no more illegal immigrants she screams over them we're going to give them your tax dollars

we're going to give them your homes and we're going to give them special protected status i'm sorry that's evil yeah no no some some are bad but i i'm with you once you meet a lot of politicians you realize that many of them are kind of boring and uh some of them are it's not that they're evil they're just like they don't care that much about much of anything but a lot of them actually are like nice good people who were like a little bit nerdy in school and you know they're just yeah it's kind of sad because if they were truly just menacing evil monsters it would explain why the country is so degraded. But, like, a lot of them are just kind of, you know, showing up and doing their job. Yeah, getting a job on the bridge of the Death Star.

Why does everyone hate me? Here's a question. Here's a question. How many members of Congress can you name? Let's just say the House. How many members of the House can you name? I don't know, 20. Right?

10. 20? Yo, we do a show. We've probably interviewed more than 20 members of Congress. I can't name any's just say the house how many members of the house can you head i don't know 20 right 10 20 yo we do a show we've probably interviewed more than 20 members of congress i can't name any of them you know we know the ones we like we know the ones we don't like and then i have had full conversations with members of congress not recognizing them at all yeah and i i work in politics for a living you know and i and I just, a lot of them, you just don't, even prominent ones. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

It looks like we're back. Oh, that's a cool venue. It's Reagan's. Reagan Library. Reagan Library for the second Republican presidential debate. I do want to just remind you. You should have ordered pizza. There's one minute for questions.

30 seconds for a follow up. And we mentioned each other. That means that you have questions. I can't do it. I ate all that jerky. So we want to talk about crime. This has been a horrendous problem in our country. It's gone. You want food?

Alfa jerky. Meat sticks? You want some? Is that what they're called? Well, no, no, we had a bag of jerky. I'll go grab some. Really? Muters took over the streets of Philadelphia. We should have just wings. You said in the last debate that you would use U.S. attorneys to prosecute crimes. Local prosecutors won't.

Next time, we should order a bunch of pizza and wings. They could not handle all of the lawlessness, the shoplifting, attorneys or prosecutors, local prosecutors won't. But they are stretched as well. They could not handle all of the lawlessness, the shoplifting, all the carjackings, the armed robberies. They're all surging. Progressive prosecutors were elected by their constituents, and they can't be fired by a president. So what would you do to end the revolving

door of criminality? Well, look, Dana, I'm the only one on this stage who's done it. For seven years, I ran the fifth largest office in this country at the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey. And we set records for the number of prosecutions that we brought that still have not been broken. And the reason was that we went after the crime that was affecting people's lives. And as president, I will appoint an attorney general and instruct that attorney general that you are to put all the resources that are necessary to bring our cities back under control. The fact is they will be stretched. There's no doubt about that.

But that's what they take the job for. Because they love the idea of enforcing the law. We've got to bring law and order back to this country. And not just in our cities. But we need law and order back everywhere. We need law and order back in our cities. We need it to law and order back everywhere. We need law and order back everywhere. We need it in our rural areas. People feel threatened there.

And we need it in Washington, D.C. also. And Donald Trump should be here to answer for that, but he's not. And I want to look at that camera right now and tell you, Donald, I know you're watching. You can't help yourself. I know you're watching, okay? And you're not here tonight,

not because of polls and not because of your indictments. You're watching, okay? And you're not here tonight, not because of polls and not because of your indictments. You're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on this stage and defending your record. No, I'm pretty sure it's the polls, actually. I'm pretty sure the reason he's not there is because of the polls, because he's up like 50 points. We're going to call you Donald Duck. Donald Duck. Donald Duck.

A couple of prosecutors in your state, but as governor, I mean, sorry, as president, you would not have the ability to do that. Donald Zuck. Donald Zuck. You are the man. You would not have the ability to do that. How do you think about dealing with the root causes of crime, especially this revolving door of the criminals? They just get out and come back and commit another crime. Well, the crime in these cities is one of the strongest signs of the decaying of America. We can't be successful as a country if people aren't even safe to live in places like Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Just being in Southern California over the last couple days, my wife and I have met three people who have been mugged on the street, and that would have never happened 10 or 20 years ago. In Florida, we back the blue. We support the men and women of law enforcement. They are keeping us safe. We have a 50-year low in the crime rate. And yes, when I had two progressive prosecutors that weren't following the law in Florida,

I removed them from their posts, and the people of Florida are safer as a result of it. As president, I will use the Justice Department to bring civil rights cases against all of those left-wing Soros-funded prosecutors. We're not going to let them get away with it anymore. We're going to reverse this country's decline. We need to choose law and order over rioting and disorder. And I will not let you down. I would be nuts.

I would be like, I will prosecute all of the Democrats who have illegally gone after Donald Trump. Is that a record low? Three years ago, you signed a pledge to support law enforcement. Now, pledges are a nice idea, but what's your actual plan to get more police on our streets? Well, and I actually did it in South Carolina, too. You know, what we knew in South Carolina was you take care of those who take care of you. We have to start taking care of law enforcement. But it's not just taking care of them with words. It's making sure that you also follow through on what they do. Right now, we have a lot of

stolen guns on the street. Well, these law enforcement officers, they arrest these people, and then they go and they're let out the very next day. So law enforcement feels like they don't, no one has their back. We have to start prosecuting according to the law. We have to make sure we have the backs of law enforcement, and we have to make sure that we're a country of law and order. But I want to go back to China because I don't think we spent enough time on that. Why don't we see that last time? Right now, we have to look at what government's doing to hurt us against China, too.

You have a company, U.S. Antibiotics, that produces amoxicillin, the number one antibiotic that we need. And right now, there is a company in Bristol, Tennessee antibiotics that produces amoxicillin, the number one antibiotic that we need. And right now there is a company in Bristol, Tennessee, that produces that. Yet our federal government only gets it from China. We need to be focusing on companies that produce in America and supporting those companies that produce in America, not companies that are helping China. That was unexpectedly a good point. I expected it to be some sort of shallow pivot.

Thank you, Stuart. We're going to stay on the topic of crime because it affects all of us. Governor Burgum, for the first time ever, a Univision poll found that mass shootings and gun safety are one of the most important issues for Latino voters. Better have it, Doug. Mental health concerns are not unique to the United States. But gun violence is. What is your specific plan to curb gun violence? If you just start speaking perfect Spanish.

Well, first we need to know and understand is I think that the liberal... Oh, no! He looks like Scorsese. The left seems to be just completely bent on prosecuting law-abiding citizens that are gun owners. Because every solution they have to this is take away the Second Amendment rights of Americans. And somehow that's going to solve the problem. But all these cities that we're talking about that showed the videos of tonight, they have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. So we know that that's not what's working.

What we have to do is get back to the core issues about the family. We have to get back to behavioral health and mental health. We've got to get back to actually enforcing the law, as these people talked about. And like we've done in North Dakota, we've got the goal, and we're on the track. He legitimately might get a bump out of this. He's not going to go that far. The most military and the most support of what we're doing as a law enforcement. The morale is down because we've been defunding

the police because they've been attacked in the press. The police have become the bad guys when they're the one. There's all these jobs available in America. Why would you be a policeman if people don't respect them? Every time I see a policeman, the first thing I say is thank you. And so does everybody else in my family and most of the people in our state because they know we have to respect the people that are out there defending us every single day. Are you a burgomaniac? I am a burgomaniac. About 90 percent of fentanyl is seized at official border crossings and 57 percent of the smugglers are U.S. citizens. How would you stop fentanyl brought into the country, mostly by U.S. citizens, through ports of entry?

There's two sides to this, and we have to be very honest about it. One is we do have to seal that southern border. Building the wall is not enough. They're building cartel-financed tunnels underneath that wall. Semi-trucks can drive through them. We have to use our own military to seal the Swiss cheese of a southern border. But we also have to be honest. There's a demand side problem in this country, too. A mental health epidemic.

I met family in Iowa. Two parents, Kathy and Derek. They lost their son, Sebastian, 17 years old. He bought Percocet on Snapchat. And then he died. Why did he die? Because it was laced with fentanyl. That is closer to bioterrorism,

not a drug overdose. That is poisoning. So it is our job to make sure that never happens. But it's also our job to make sure that 17-year-olds don't turn to Percocet via Snapchat. We have to bring back mental health care in this country, not with pumping pharmaceuticals, but with faith-based approaches that restore purpose and meaning in the next generation of Americans. Many of them are getting it through social media. And this isn't a Republican point or a Democrat point, but if you're 16 years old or under, you should not be using an addictive social media product, period. This is something that we can both agree on, and we can revive both the mental health of this country

while stopping the fentanyl epidemic that will kill more people this year than who died on 9-11. And I refuse to be a passive bystander sitting in the White House like the hollowed out husk of a current president we have. We will step up and address this problem to stand for Americans and our children. I'm not a vice president. You're encouraging TikTok. You're encouraging TikTok. Who's encouraging TikTok? Why are they talking about encouraging TikTok. Quit encouraging TikTok. That is why. That is why. Who's encouraging TikTok? Why are they talking about encouraging TikTok?

I'm going to use the U.S. military to go after the Mexican drug cartels. They are killing our people. And the stories that I've seen. In Florida, we had an infant, 18 months. Parents rented an Airbnb. And apparently the people that had rented it before were using drugs. The infant was crawling. The toddler was crawling on the carpet and ingested fentanyl residue and died.

Are we just going to sit here and let this happen, this carnage happen in our country? I am not going to do that. So I guarantee you on day one, this border is going to be a day one issue for me as president. We're going to declare it a national emergency. Yes, we'll build the wall. We'll do remain in Mexico. But those Mexican drug cartels are going to be treated like the foreign terrorist organizations that they are. All right, Vice President Pence, we're going to move on to a different issue. Hold on, sir. Vice President Pence. Who's speaking? Just last month, Vice

President Pence. You said if elected, you would repeal all Obamacare mandates. However, you also made that same promise in 2016. And at that time, Trump-Pence had congressional majorities for at least the first two years, and you did not deliver on that promise. So Obamacare, right now, it is more popular than ever. Why should Americans trust you, if you become president, to fix that? Or is Obamacare here to stay? Well, first let me speak to the mass shootings issue, and then I'll answer that question. It's important one day. Look, I'm someone that believes that justice delayed is justice denied.

And as a father of three, as the grandfather of three beautiful little girls, I am sick and tired of these mass shootings happening in the united states of america and if i'm president of the united states i'm going to go to the congress of the united states and we're going to pass a federal expedited death penalty for anyone involved in a mass shooting so that they will meet their fate in months, including gangsters. It is a conch. I don't think so. What does that mean? Someone that sold them the gun? Parkland shooter, Ron, is actually going to spend the rest of his life behind bars in Florida. That's not justice. We have to meet out justice and send a message to these would-be killers that you are not going to live out your days behind bars.

I appreciate it. We're just going to kill you. Does behind bars. You're going to need justice in this city. Does that mean Obamacare is here to stay? Yeah. I love her. I love Dana. Wow. Well, thank you for reiterating the question, because I'd love to answer it.

That was good. It's one of the choices here. You know, my former running mate, Donald Trump, actually has a plan to start to consolidate more power in Washington, D.C., consolidate more power in the executive branch. If I'm president of the United States, it's my intention to make the federal government smaller by returning to the states those resources and programs that are rightfully theirs under the 10th Amendment of the Constitution. That means all Obamacare funding, all housing funding, all HHS funding,

all of it goes back to the states. We'll shut down the Federal Department of Education. We'll allow states to innovate. We're going to revive federalism in America. Democrats are wielding corrupt power against us, and we're going to give all that power up as soon as you vote for me. No, I'm not interested. Sorry. Fire all of them first. I agree, but first fire them, prosecute, then start breaking it down. Oh, Tim, stop, please. He doesn't have that Burgum focus.

Well, I think this is a symptom of our overall economic decline. Everything has gotten more That's worse than the national average. Can Americans trust you on this? Well, I think this is a symptom of our overall economic decline. Everything has gotten more expensive. You see insurance rates are going through the roof. People that are going to get groceries. I spoke with a woman in Iowa and she said, you know, for the first time in my life, I'm having to take things out of my grocery cart when I get to the checkout line because the total goes up so quickly. So this is very real and people are hurting out there.

So we've got to address the underlying problem with Bidenomics, the overspending, taking all Biden's rules and regulations. I'm going to throw them in the trash can on day one. You're not going to have to worry about that. We're going to open up all of our energy. We will be energy dominant in this country that will lower your gas prices. And what we need to do with health care is recognize our health care is putting patients at the back of the bus. We have big pharma, big insurance and big government. And we need to tackle that and have more power for the people and the doctor patient relationship. Why is your record in Florida on insurance worse than the national average?

Our state's a dynamic state. We've got a lot of folks that come. Of course, we've had a population boom. We also don't have a lot of welfare benefits in Florida. You know, we're basically saying this is a field of dreams. You can do well in the state, but we're not going to be like California and have massive numbers of people on government programs without work requirements. We believe you work, and you've got to do that.

And so that goes for all the welfare benefits. And you know what that's done, Stuart? Our unemployment rate is the lowest amongst any big state. We have the highest GDP growth amongst any big state. And even CNBC, no fan of mine, ranked Florida the number one economy in America. It's too bad that nothing that happens at this debate matters. The nomination is already locked up. Healthcare is the leading cause of bankruptcy for American families, accounting for two-thirds of all personal bankruptcies.

Ask President how you protect Americans who get sick from financial ruin. First of all, how can we be the best country in the world and have the most expensive health care in the world? We have an issue. My mom was in the hospital. When she was in the hospital, they tried to bring her a couple of Tylenol. And she said, I don't need it. And they said, honey, go ahead and take it because you're paying for it anyway. Why is it that when we got the bill, the insurance company in the hospital negotiated the bill for her without her having anything to do with it? When I am president, we will break all of it, from the insurance company to the hospitals to the doctor's offices to the PBMs to the pharmaceutical companies. We will make it all transparent because when you do

that, you will realize that's what the problem is. Second thing is you've got to deal with tort law. The doctors don't give you the 10 tests because they want to. It's because of the 90% chance they'll get sued. And then we need to bring competition back to health care, get rid of certificate of need systems, and make sure that they can compete. We have to put the patient in the driver's seat. Is she running for Congress, or is she running for the president? Right. Yeah, you know, this is an issue with both her answers and Ron's last answer. They were actually quite good and

substantive and, you know, in the weeds. And that doesn't often serve a presidential campaign. The president can't do it. The president can't do it. I mean, he could lead. They have the Persians. Yeah, he could push around the Capitol Hill.

But yeah, that's a good point. I will say. We talk about why do we have the most expensive health care in the world. Excuse me, Tim. I have to ask you. It's because the federal government got involved the same way they did with EVs. And they said, we're going to subsidize a particular kind of software back in 2008 under Obama. And they said, hey, we're going to do this.

It's going to make everybody more productive. All of you that are watching have been to a doctor's office. When the doctors got his back to you and their hands on a keyboard, the only industry in the world that's ever absorbed $1 trillion of IT and became less productive, less patients per day, is U.S. healthcare because they were subsidizing a certain kind of technology. It wasn't about improving healthcare. It was about picking winners and losers.

Every time the federal government's involved, whether's higher education health care or now the auto industry things get more expensive and less competitive but he could provide that balance to trump right right you know it's not the craziest idea i know he's also extremely rich i got i gotta say this about uh, man. People are going to Mexico for healthcare. For real. These people are like, everyone's going to Canada. No, they're going to Mexico, dude.

How's you? I went to Mexico for my hip problem, and it's because it's cheaper, faster, and better. So my hip screwed up from a repetitive sports injury. I call around these doctors. You get a, we don't take your insurance. We don't take your insurance. And I'm just like, this is the craziest thing. Michael, I have to say this. Yeah.

I am rich and I cannot go to a doctor. And this pissed me off. That's insane. It is. I called, we have insurance. I have insurance. We have the employees here have insurance. And I called the doctor and I was like, yeah, I'm having an issue.

Sports injury. We don't accept your insurance. And I'm like, I'll the employees here have insurance. And I called the doctor and I was like, yeah, I'm having an issue. Respect sports injury. We don't accept your insurance. And I'm like, I'll just pay you the money. And they're like, no, you can't do that. And I'm like, are you kidding me? I have money in my hand. I want to give it to you. Call around.

I find a specialist. They say, can you come in in two weeks? And I'm like, this is nuts, man. I'm like, I want to get back to skating as soon as I can. And I need to make sure i need to know if this is like i need surgery is it a serious injury is it a tear or is it like take aspirin and you're old right and combination of both it wasn't a tear but it's uh i skate too much i've seriously screwed my hip up from falling for 20 years slamming it over and over and over again causes

like fluid to build up that's's why I only razor blade. I don't, that's why I don't do skates. Yeah, razor, is that what they're called? Roller blade? A roller blade. That's when you mix it up with that scooter too. So we have all that stuff. We have BMX, we have bikes, we have scooters,

we have blades. But so I get some advice from a good health, a trusted health professional friend who says Cellular Performance Institute, they're in Tijuana. And I hit him up and and they're like we can have you out in two days immediately get your mris done immediately get a doctor consultation and give you the the general treatments in a matter of days after diagnosis and so the good news is i did not need an hip injection i actually just needed a general i just got a generalized treatment and they were like,

look, you've got like traumatic hip injury over the, we have no recommendation for you. Just, you know, like we're going to give you a general revitalization. I got like a IV, NAD, stem cells in general. And it took one week. Luke was there. I was there with my girlfriend and it was day one MRIs done. In the United States, it was, can you come in in two weeks for a consultation? After the consultation, we'll schedule your MRIs for a week later.

Once your MRIs come back a few days after that, then we'll start discussing treatment plans. All in all, maybe in three or four months, we'll give you a general treatment for it. And I'm like, that's crazy. So are we going to start running across the border the other direction? They do. Well, how is that experience for Mexicans? In terms of getting health care?

Is it actually cheaper, faster, better? I mean, I believe you that it's cheaper and faster, but is it better quality? Yes. Yes. So the Cellular Performance Institute is the state-of-the-art, highest-end research. And the issue is that the amount of time and money it takes to go through clinical trials in the united states is prohibitive yeah and so you've got research coming out of universities that's been tested been done it works but now we got to do our multi-layered tests united states

you've got revolving door policies you've got who's greasy whose wheels are getting greased things like this so but but let's not even talk about the experimental medical stuff. Dental care. Yeah. They do platelet-rich plasma, I think it's called. Yeah, PRP. So here's what happens. After you get, say, like a filling or a root canal or whatever it is you've got to do,

your gums are all messed up. They're sore. A few days later, you're mostly fine. What they do inxico is they extract your blood take platelet-rich plasma and inject it around the site which rapidly increases healing they don't for my understanding is typically you don't get that here in the united states not only that it's it's like a couple hundred bucks whereas like in the united states it's like a thousand two thousand in mexico of course they might also uh sell kidney. So that while they're in there, you know, they...

But you go to... Like, here's the thing, man. That's where my mind goes when I think about how healthcare works in other countries. It's just sketchy. That's not true, though. That's an American side. It's a mid-mountain regulated... It's an American...

They want you to think everywhere else is scary. That's fine. Yep. Yeah, that's true. Do you know what time I usually go to the dentist? When do you go? 2.30. Ha-ha! 2.30. When do you go? 2.30. Ha ha!

2.30. Let me tell you. Okay, folks. 2.30. I'm sitting in this clinic in a recliner chair looking at the beach in Tijuana as dolphins are jumping in the air. And there's a seal on the ground. I'm like, this is nuts.

That's pretty good. And they bring... So you get breakfast and lunch as you're getting your IVs, you're getting your blood tests and all that stuff. You're sitting in this chair and they bring fresh squeezed organic orange juice all the food they make is organic health food it's it's insane like i had a salmon with like glaze onion and they're like oh it's it's it's wild fresh salmon it's like i want to go on a teeth cleaning vacation this sounds well this was a hip problem. Two big problems with our health care system is it's so difficult to become a doctor. 15 years of net cost.

And then the easiest thing is to get sick from poisonous food. So you kind of got to not eat the poison. That's the first step. We're back. This has even been called education homicide. You say school choice is the answer. But South Carolina, your home state, still has not enacted universal school choice and even the current expansion won't be fully implemented until 2027 parents can't wait four years for a fix so what would you do right now

well in school choice isn't the only answer but i'll tell you it's not out of a lack of trying that we didn't try and get school choice in south Carolina. What I'll tell you, first of all, is we have to acknowledge the fact that 67% of our eighth graders are not proficient in reading or math. Over 80% of our eighth graders aren't proficient in history or civics. And recently they came out and said our 12 and 13-year-olds are scoring at the lowest levels they've been scoring in reading and math in decades. So the first thing we've got to do is we've got to make sure we catch our kids back up. We have to make sure they can read.

A child that can't read by third grade is four times less likely to graduate high school. We need to do reading remediation. We need complete transparency in the classroom. No parent should ever wonder what's being said or taught to their child in the classroom. We need to make sure that we have school choice so that there's competition. We need to move all the programs in the federal government down to the states and let states decide what education looks like in their states. And we need to start building things in America again.

Let's put vocational classes back in our high schools, and let's get our kids building the things that we know that we can make. When we start to focus on that and really bring in that parental involvement, that's when we'll start to see a difference. But we've got to get parents back included. We've got to quit spending time on this DEI and CRT and instead focus on

financial literacy, on digital literacy, and on making sure that our kids know what they need to do to have the jobs of the next generation. On the subject of education, on the subject of education, a question for Governor Christie. Students in your state are getting high marks on their report cards, but minorities are not doing well with math and reading. Black and Hispanic students averaging 29 points lower than white students in New Jersey. Would you address minorities first? You have to address all students.

And look, in our state, I don't want to take the bait. Thank you. Before I was governor, that was waiting for him to put an eponata on the podium and take a bite. And what we did was institute more charter schools and more Renaissance schools and more public school choice in New Jersey with innovative solutions in cities like Camden where now we took what was the worst school district in America during my time and we have now increased that by nearly 40% in terms of their proficiency. It can be done when you give people choice. But let's tell the truth to everybody about what this is.

This public school system is no longer run by the public. It is run by the teachers' unions in this country. Randy Weingarten and her crew are absolutely strangling. They are taking the worst of their members and defending them rather than advocating for our kids. And when you have the President of the United States sleeping with a member of the teachers union, there is no chance that you can take the stranglehold away from the teachers union every day. They have an advocate inside the White House every day for the worst of their teachers, not for our students to be the best they can be. A president of the United States has to take on the teachers union.

I did it in New Jersey, and I will do it as president of the United States. Governor DeSantis, I have a question. take on the teachers union. I did it in New Jersey and I will do it as president of the United States. Governor DeSantis, I have a question for you. Florida's new- Oh, he won't shut up. Oh my God. Slaves develop skills, which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. You have said- They cut his mic? Slaves develop skills- I think they did.

Yeah, because you cut it way degree, not because of it. Or yeah, it might be in one of the other minds. It's the ambient sound. For descendants of slaves, this is personal. What is your message to them? So first of all, that's a hoax that was perpetrated by Kamala Harris. We are not going to be doing that.

Second of all, that was written by descendants of slaves. These are great black history scholars, so we need to stop playing these games. Here's the deal. Our country's education system is in decline because it's focused on indoctrination, denying parents' rights. Florida represents the revival of American education. We're ranked number one in the nation in education by U.S. News and World Report. My wife and I, we have a 6-, 5-, and 3-year-old.

This is personal to us. We didn't just talk about universal school choice. We enacted universal school choice. We didn't just talk about parents' bill of rights. We enacted the parents' bill of rights. This is his best issue. We eliminated critical race theory. You know, he gets a lot of credit for COVID, which people aren't going to care about. He's out of sight, out of mind, but he's best on education. So he's just like President Reagan.

If he had a better campaign strategy and been in here and interviewed twice on the show, man, he'd be the frontrunner. Maybe not the frontrunner, but he'd be. And our kids are benefiting. He'd be doing better than 12%. It's so sad that he's been underutilized. It's not just about if he came on this show. It's that if he was willing to come on shows like this, he'd be doing way better.

It's not about us. It's about his long-form interviews. The DeSantis campaign has forbade their staffers and supporters from coming on this show. Really? It's a mess. No. Wow. Yes, sir. That's crazy. That's insane.

That's a huge show. And people who are friends of ours have been on the show already. No longer can come on. Wow. So often we think with all the issues, you talk about crime and education and health care. We always think that those issues go back to slavery. Here's the challenge, though. Black families survived slavery.

We survived poll taxes and literacy tests. We survived discrimination being woven into the laws of our country. What was hard to survive was Johnson's Great Society where they decided to put money where they decided to take the black father out of the household to get a check in the mail and you can now measure that in unemployment in crime and devastation. If you want to restore hope you've got to restore the family restore capitalism and put Americans back at work together as one American family. Our nation continues to go in the right direction.

It's why I can say I have been discriminated against, but America is not a racist country. Never, ever doubt who we are. We are the greatest country on God's green earth. And frankly, the city on the hill needs a brand new leader. And I'm asking for your vote. Well, he's really trying. He's trying. He's not going down without a fight. Over 10.7 million students in our 18,000 public schools nationwide have the ability to change their identity without parental notification. Governor Christie told Stewart last week that he would pass a federal law to protect parental

rights. Would you try to do the same? He can barely hold himself up. I have to be very clear about this. Transgenderism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder. We have to acknowledge the truth of that for what it is. I met two young women early in this campaign. On parental rights in school. Parents have the right to know. And you know what the hypocrisy of this is? Even New Hampshire failed to actually get past a piece of legislation here. The very people who say that this increases the risk of suicide are also the ones saying that parents don't have the right to know about that increased risk of suicide.

And I'm sorry. It is not compassionate to affirm a kid's confusion. That is cruelty. I met two young women, Chloe and Katie, early in this campaign who are in their twenties now regret getting double mastectomies and a hysterectomy. One of them will never have children. And the fact that we allowed that to happen in this country is barbaric. So I will ban genital mutilation or chemical castration under the age of 18. And parents have absolutely the right. We're going to pass a federal law that says parents should have that right. We are going to require states absolutely have to follow that through. We stand for parental

rights. Yes. In your state, this is you do not have a law that says parents can't be notified but you want to be president would you try to pass a federal law to say parents have that right i think this is a state's issue but i do want to say something because all night long we've been talking about issues about how it's broken in washington and i respect all of the people on the stage here for their 100 plus years of public service thank you but the reason why we're not talking about education or health care or safety being a problem, I've got more experience as a business leader than I think this whole group combined. I know I've created more jobs than everybody else on the stage,

thousands of high paying jobs that have real meaning. So as a business leader, you come in and you treat the taxpayer like a customer. So in North Dakota, instead of fighting with the teachers unions, we actually created a K-12 coordinating council. Everybody gets in the room and the customer is the student. But you do understand that this is an issue that many people in America really are concerned about, worried about, about parents and notification in schools. Yes, and that's why we have 50 platforms of innovation. That's why we have states. There are certain things the federal government is supposed to do.

It's not the Department of Education that needs to be assembled. We've got to move it back to state. Do what we did in North Dakota. Instead of like, oh, here's a choice school and here's an old school. The old way with the teachers and the kids are trapped. We made every school in North Dakota an innovation school. Every school got out from under the red tape. And the things that help teach the values that we're trying to get, like 4-H, like FFA, like Boy Scouts. They can get credit for all that. A rare miss by Berg. Let me ask. Do Democrats

think gay marriage is a state's issue? No, sorry. It was like he was fouling it off and then he just struck out. I'm off Berg. He let me down! He's dead to me. I mostly have sympathy for Christie.

I like this. Trump, Christie, 2024. To be victims of violent hate crimes. His willingness to wear that hair like that the entire tenure of VP was... From violent attacks and discrimination. I've got to give him props. As President of the United States, I'll stand up for the safety and the civil liberties of every American. Oh, you're so honorable.

From every background. And I want the American people to know that. But I want to answer the question as well, Dana, that you just asked Doug Burr. Because my way of full disclosure, Chris, you mentioned the president's situation. My wife isn't a member of the teachers' union, but I've got to admit, I've been sleeping with a teacher full disclosure look education is a state and local function the state of indiana had one of the very first school choice programs in the country i should have brought my state of indiana that's funny after mike has made that whole big thing about i don't go on dinner dates with other women when the lynn Martin Community Schools in Iowa...

I've been sleeping with every teacher in America. You can't get enough of them. ...from your parents to get a Tylenol, but you could get a gender transition plan without notifying your parents. I weighed in with a foundation. That's not bad policy. That's crazy. We're going to stand up for the rights of parents, and we're going to pass a federal ban on transgender chemical or surgical surgery anywhere in the country.

We've got to protect our kids from this radical gender ideology agenda, and we've got to empower parents at the state level with the ability to choose whether kids go to school, whether it's public, private, parochial, or homeschool. Yeah, and you empower parents to just redirect and say, I just want to talk about transgenderism. You know, that's going to... ... and focus on the basics faster than you could possibly imagine. Next subject. ... China is investing... if you talk over everybody, we lose time. China is investing heavily in their tech companies.

$280 billion every year on semiconductor research and development. That is one chips act per year. Governor DeSantis, you say companies like Google and Meta have too much power. Doesn't going after them give China an edge? No, I think you look at how our societies develop. They have huge amount of power over our society. They've cracked down on free speech. We're not saying you don't want them to do business, but you want it to be a free market.

And right now they're monopolies. But this issue of China, I think, is really going to be fundamental. We have subcontracted out so much of our national needs to the CCP. We rely on them for a whole host of issues. We need to reshore and we need to decouple all those important industries. We need to get that back in the United States. They are our top geopolitical adversary by a country mile. Xi Jinping's got huge ambitions, not only in the Asia Pacific, but as you mentioned earlier, in our region. But ultimately, we've got to beat him on the economy. And so that's what

we'll do as president of the United States. Governor Christie, I wanted to follow up on this because 22 percent of American workers fear their jobs will be lost to a robot. And you said in the past that the free market is the way to go. Would you retrain workers who lose a job to artificial intelligence and to do what? Well, look, what I think artificial intelligence offers us is an extraordinary opportunity to expand well beyond the productivity that we have now and to have Americans be able to involve be involved in that revolution, Dana. You know each time we have shown incredible innovation and progress in this country what we've done with it is to expand all kinds of new even unthought of opportunities. AI will give us the French work week.

Yes, we have to do retraining for folks who lose some of their jobs and we should be doing that and we should have more training available both at the county college level and the local level for people to be able to access it. So yes, I would be in favor of that. But this is a much bigger issue than that. We can't be afraid of innovation. America has been the great innovator of this world over the last 250 years, a technological innovator, a manufacturing innovator, and a freedom and governmental innovator. And that's why America has to continue to stand strong in the world, pro-innovation, pro-progress. And I will tell you this, as President of the United States, what I will do is to make sure that every innovator in this country

gets the government the hell off its back and out of its pocket so that it can innovate and bring great new inventions to our country that will make everybody's lives better. Elon announced tonight at midnight he's going to stream a Tier 99 Nightmare Dungeon speedrun on Diablo. Who's doing it? Elon Musk. I wonder what class he is. Let's take bets on what class.

It's a stress test for X-Lives. My guess is he's a sorcerer. The range is too good. Oh, he was hanging out with Jake Paul. It's a stress test for ex-lifes. My guess is he's a sorcerer. Should the commanding chief be so easily persuaded by an influencer? So the answer is I have a radical idea for the Republican Party. We need to win elections. And part of how we win elections is reaching the next generation of young men. Yes, they are. So when I get into office, I've been very clear.

Kids under the age of 16 should not be using addictive social media. We're only going to ever get to declaring independence from China. He is if he didn't have social media. Maybe that's what he was talking about. While the Democrats are running rampant, reaching the next generation three to one, there's exactly one person in the Republican Party which talks a big game about reaching young people. And that's me. And let me level with all of you. I'm the new guy here. And so I know I have to earn your trust. What do you see? You see a young man who's in a bit of a hurry, maybe a little ambitious, bit of a know-it-all, it seems at times. I'm here to tell you, no, I don't know it all.

I will listen. I will have the best people, the best and brightest in this country, whatever age they are, advising me. We will be probably many of the people on this stage included. That's how I built my companies. I want to be challenged. I want people who disagree with me. That's what makes America great because we're not a perfect nation. We're founded on the pursuit of perfection. That is what makes America great. TikTok is the product of the chinese communist election i have to jump i i have to jump in here i'm sorry i have to there's one person on this this is infuriating because tiktok is one of the most dangerous

social media apps that we could have and what you've got i honestly every time i hear you i feel a little bit dumber for what you say what they're doing is these 150 million people are on tiktok that means they can get your contacts they can get your financial information they can get your emails they can get just say text messages they can get all this is important this is very important for our party what they're doing this is very important for our party and i'm going important for our party. And what we've seen is you've gone and you've helped China make medicines in China, not America. You're now wanting kids to go and get on the social media that's dangerous for all of us. You and you were in business with the Chinese that gave $105 million. We can't trust you.

We can't trust you. We can't have TikTok in our kids' lives. We need to ban it. Mr. Ramaswamy, you have 15 seconds. I think, excuse me. You have 15 seconds, Mr. Ramaswamy. Thank you. I think we would be better served as a Republican Party if we're not sitting here hurling personal insults and actually have a legitimate debate about policy following Reagan's 11th Amendment in his honor.

And the answer is that is what actually makes our country strong. And I believe in these people. These are good people on the stage. Except for Nicky. He clearly hates Nicky. Stuart, can we get back to the question?

The feeling seems mutual. The fake said he doesn't want teenagers on addicted social media. She goes, you want kids on TikTok? Wow, Nikki. That was a low blow for Haley. Across Europe. Cheated on arms control treaties with the U.S. and seeks to work with China to force our decline.

President Reagan believed that if you want to prevent a war, you better be prepared to fight one. Today, the Republican Party is at odds over aid to Ukraine. The price tag so far is $76 billion. But is it in our best interest to degrade Russia's military for less than 5% of what we pay annually on defense, especially when there are no U.S. soldiers in the fight? It's in our interest to end this war, and that's what I will do as president. We are not going to have a blank check. We will not have U.S. troops, and we're going to make the Europeans do what they need to do. But they've sent money to pay bureaucrats' pensions and salaries and funding small businesses halfway around the world. Meanwhile,

our own country is being invaded. We don't even have control of our own territory. We have got to defend the American people before we even worry about all these other things. And I watch these guys in Washington, D.C., and they don't care about the American people. They don't care about the fentanyl deaths. They don't care about the communities being overrun because of this border. They don't care about the Mexican drug cartels. So as commander in chief, I will defend this country's sovereignty. But it's not a territorial dispute. It's never been a territorial dispute. And 90% of the resources that we send over to Ukraine is guaranteed as a loan. It is not act—90% of the money that we send over there is loan.

Well, we can talk about this, but at the end of the day, 90% of the money that we send over there is actually in the form of a loan. It's not actually not being paid by Ukraine. We're obviously not getting it back. That's an amazing position to stake out there. I think it's a really good topic to take.

No, no, more funding for Ukraine. Let's debate the fact that our national vital interest is in degrading the Russian military. Degrading the Russian military, we actually keep our homeland safer, we keep our troops at home, and we all understand Article

5 of NATO. We have to be level with the American people. I thought you said something about waiting until you return to talk. So at the end of the day, I'll be happy to do this. I'll look forward to this one right now. So at the end of the day, when you think about the fact that if you want to keep American troops

at home, the attack on NATO territory would bring us and our troops in. By degrading the Russian military, we reduce, if not eliminate, an attack on NATO territory. If I may finish that exchange, we have to level with the American people on this issue. The reality is just because Putin is an evil dictator does not mean that Ukraine is good.

This is a country that has banned 11 opposition parties. A win for Russia is a win for China. We're joining Russia. Excuse me, if you have a chance. I is a win for China. Oh, Haley. Excuse me, Nick, you'll have a chance. I forgot, you like China. That's why you're okay. You like China. The person who insults isn't helping.

China is the real enemy, and we're driving Russia further into China's arms. This really degraded, man. This was like... He's looking good. Yeah. Vivek, if you let... Oh, they won't shut up. They clearly think he's a threat. especially this is a country whose president just last week was hailing a Nazi president. Oh, they won't shut up.

They clearly think he's a threat. We need a reasonable plan to peace. Governor Christie, Governor Christie, President Biden's first two years have brought China, Russia, and Iran closer together. I just want to eat more Krispy Kremes. I couldn't hear the sound of my breathing. Are we focused too much on Ukraine and not enough on this threat from the new world order? No, they're all connected, Stuart. They're all connected. Why are they based? The Chinese are based on the Russian war.

The Ukrainians are more sophisticated weapons. And so are the North Koreans now as well with the encouragement of the Chinese. The naivete on this stage from some of these folks is extraordinary. Look, I understand people want to go and talk to Putin. Guess what? So did George W. Bush. So did Barack Obama. So did Donald Trump.

And so did Joe Biden when he said a small invasion wouldn't be so bad. Every one of them has been wrong. And the fact of the matter is we need to say right now that the Chinese-Russian alliance is something we have to fight against. And we are not going to solve it by going over and cuddling up to Vladimir Putin. Trump also wasn't wrong. Donald Trump said Vladimir Putin was brilliant and a great leader. This is a person who is murdering

people in his own country and now not having enough blood, he's now going to Ukraine to murder innocent civilians and kidnap 20,000 children. I'm so glad that Tucker allowed Republicans to say, like, I'm not okay with this. If we give him any of Ukraine, next will be Poland. This is a guy

who said, wait, one sec, this is a guy in 1991 who said that was the darkest moment in world history when the Soviet Union fell. Listen, everybody, he wants to put the old band back together and only America can stop it. And when I'm president, we will. Governor Burgum, I want to get to Governor Burgum.

He hasn't had a chance. I have a question. I think you're going to. Or at least you have experience in it. Governor Burgum, I want to get to Governor Burgum. He hasn't had a chance. Me too. I have a question I think you're going to really like. Or at least you have experience in it. And we need to talk about America's farmers. Because there is a foreign policy connection here. The U.S. and China are in this fierce economic competition. It's hurting American businesses.

And there is blowback against American farmers because China then targets them in retaliation. How would you as president protect American farmers and ranchers from that kind of retaliation from a foreign government like China? Well, first of all, we've got the best farmers and ranchers in the world right here in America. If they have a level playing field, they can out-compete anyone in the world. But this is part of the larger issue that we're talking about here, which is we're in a Cold War with China. The Biden administration won't admit that. But we're also in an economic war through what we're doing with agriculture and energy. And we're also in a war with them relative to cyber war.

We get attacked every day in North Dakota, every state, every school district, our tribes, all being attacked every day by either China, Russia, Iran or North Korea. And now we've got a Biden administration whose whole policy is appeasement. They're out there creating the world, making it less safe. Six billion dollars they traded for five people. They've just now set a price on anyone's head who's a tourist from America, who's a student from America for kidnapping. If you want more kidnapping, put a price on it. And then that's and they're also helping Iran get to have more closer to nuclear weapon than which pushes all of the Middle East closer to China and Russia. The whole thing is absurd. And then, of course, we're going to give Ukraine to Russia and then

we're going to give Taiwan to China and think that's a foreign policy that will make our nation less, less successful, make us more poor. And at the core of all that is energy policy, because China imports 10 million barrels of oil a day. They're the largest import in the world. And we've had four cabinet members from the Biden administration there this summer, and none of them talked about U.S. energy. The first one to go to each of those countries was Kerry to talk about the folly of the climate policy, which is making the world less stable. It's empowering dictators. It's not about climate change that we need worried about. It's about the Biden climate policies that are actually the existential threat to America's future. Thank you. Can I speak?

He didn't win me back with that one. We've got scotch. Yeah, I know. More sophisticated. Mexico is the United States most important trade partner and border security. You say you will send special operations to attack the cartels in Mexico. So this means boots on the ground, drone strikes. It means special operations. It's how we deal with our terrorists. And what you need to do is understand that Mexico is not being a good partner. If we lost 75,000 Americans last year. Mexico's not being a good partner if they're letting the cartels get away with what they're getting away with. What we will do is we will make sure that we send in our special operations and we will take out the cartels, we'll take out

their operations, we'll take out anything that's doing it, but we're going to go after China. We will take them out. She's literally just saying she wants military operations in Mexico. And we will end all normal trade relations until China stops sending fentanyl. I just can't listen to this. It's crazy. She's literally just saying she just said that she wants to send special forces into Mexico. This is where President Trump went wrong. He focused on trade with China.

He didn't focus on the fact that they were buying up part of it. He didn't focus on the fact that they were killing Americans. I don't really care what she says. I just don't want a female president. They were stealing $600 billion in intellectual property. He didn't focus on the fact that they put a spy base all across shores in Cuba. They didn't focus enough on the fact

that all of our law enforcement drones in America are Chinese, and we've got all these little surveillance cells. We need to start focusing on what keeps Americans safe. That hasn't happened in a long time. As your president, I will make sure every American is safe, and we'll do whatever it takes to make that happen. Michael is a man of finer tastes. He went for the LaFroig 27.

This is great. This is much better than this debate. I know, that's why I offered it. You see, Crowder has taken on kind of like what you guys do backstage. Is he doing one? They just started one that's very similar to backstage.

Really? We've got to sue him. Here we go again. A couple other people. COVID lockdowns did more. What? What? Is that a good pairing? That's magnificent. Mr. Scott, you have no executive branch experience. What has prepared you to protect the nation from a major man-made national security crisis? All the things I've had the good fortune of doing is serving on committees in the United States Senate,

like the Senate Armed Services Committee, I'm on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, I'm also on the Finance Committee and the Banking Committee. Talk about addressing the issue of fentanyl. I've written the legislation, passed it through the Banking Committee and the Banking Committee. Talk about addressing the issue of fentanyl. I've written the legislation, passed it through the Banking Committee and the Senate that would freeze the assets and sanction the accounts of the Mexican cartels. There are weapons that we have within the arsenal that I was able to get past 23 to 0 in the polarizing Senate as it is. I've also understood without question the fact that if you look at the details before 9-11, there was information and intelligence that was available that suggested

an attack was coming. Having the right intelligence partners with us is key to making sure that we prevent the next 9-11 from ever happening. Having that experience for the last 10 years is really important in getting the job done. You want to increase domestic spying in response to September 11th? Well, I think you asked a question about executive experience. I think it's vitally important. Increase the security apparatus. I failed. More money to you. This country's in a lot of trouble. And the FBI and the NSA. And you hear the fire on the stage tonight. You hear the fire in all of our voices.

And it's because Joe Biden is weak in this country, at home and abroad. This is a time for those of us that have the experience, the tested experience, and a commitment to the conservative agenda that Ronald Reagan brought forward in this party of a strong national defense, standing with our allies, standing up to our enemies, supporting limited government and traditional values, need to step forward. Understood. Because, frankly, our party does face a time for choosing. I love Dana. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Right. Whether we're going to stand on the foundation of that conservative agenda that Ronald Reagan poured, or whether we're going to follow the siren song of populism unmoored to conservative principles. turns off or whether we're going to follow the siren song of populism on more to conservative principles i'm the most experienced that guy encapsulates trump's ability in this field to hire and i'm ready to lead that that is trump's worst mistake right there choosing to go to a break yo jack musub has got a really good tweet he says over one hour in and not one candidate has even mentioned the biden doj weaponizing the power of the state to take down its top opponent.

I just look, man, I like the vague. But if I was on that stage, I'm sorry. Anybody watches the show like, you know, exactly what to be talking about. I would. The first thing they'd say, they'd say we have an immigration crisis. The border as president. What would you do out? You got to go. You can't stay. You came here illegally. We're going to get you on a nice bus. We're going to send you back to Mexico, Mexico and deal with it. They broke into Mexico or they're from Mexico. They come here while they go back to Mexico.

I don't hate the people. I got no beef. In fact, I respect their drive to come to the greatest country on this planet. Sorry, but you can't stay. Apply legally. We'll welcome you in, in due time so we can adequately and properly handle the economics next point as president all prosecution anybody who engaged in a prosecution or sedition against the previous president will face criminal prosecution next question i'm not i'm done they're they're up there and they're being like well let's have a debate on the merits of china dude yeah we get it they're arresting the opposition leader man you know like we can talk about china we can talk about china we'd say yes we realize china's a threat next

question well what would you do about it the first thing i would do is stop the psychopaths who are dissolving trump's business falsely accusing him of rape prosecuting his lawyers you think anyone in this country right now look what they're trying to do is they're trying to. This is the problem with with conservative voters or I shouldn't. It's the right. It's that there is this hope and this belief that if you just do nothing, it goes back to normal. Not the case. Not going to happen. So what's going to happen is after Trump is gone, you've now proven they can wield these tactics against anyone who stands in their way. Yeah. This is what is so funny about this thing tonight is there were some good answers.

I think DeSantis is doing a good job relative to the last one. I think Nikki's relative. Yeah. Relative is the key word for all of this here. Nikki started out strong against her opponents. She got weaker throughout. Nikki's relative. Relative is the key word for all of this here. Nikki started out strong against her opponents. She got weaker throughout. Same thing with Tim Scott.

Even Burgum lost me. He lost me, even Doug Burgum. But the reason I say relative is none of it matters because none of their names is Donald John Trump, who is 50 points ahead of everybody. But they could make it matter it's just what they're doing is your run-of-the-mill blah blah blah political debate what did donald trump do i will arrest louis clinton he didn't do it he didn't and so you go up on that stage and what do people want to hear well look what they're trying to do all of these people i imagine most of them

don't actually believe a word they say what actually happens is the consultants come in and say if you go with these talking points you'll cast a wider net than ron desantis will so that's why nicky haley was like you want to get kids on the tiktok he literally said we should not allow them on tiktok and then you just said nonsense because they don't actually believe or care about whatever it is they're talking about there also appears to be just real personal animosity now which there wasn't at the last debate i think so it's this is the part that i really like about the campaign season is when they actually start to just like hate each other and they can't keep it in anymore. Because I just want something unexpected.

I want some sign of life and or an organic reaction to human beings. And so you're starting to see that a little bit here, but it still seems like play acting to me. I mean, for someone at 6% to say when I'm president of the United States, you know, give me a break. You know what answer I would appreciate more than any one of these answers? When asked right now, Donald Trump, the former president, is facing multiple indictments. There is an investigation into the son of the president, which may involve the president himself. How would you respond? When Ian says, I'd pardon all of them so we can end the animosity and fighting,

while I disagree with it, it's a real answer. Yeah, yeah. It's not a, well, you got to understand these investigations need to be played out. And the American people, no, no, no. Ian will tell you what he wants to a, well, you got to understand these investigations need to be played out. And the American people, no, no, no. Ian will tell you what he wants to do even if you don't like

what he wants to do. These people will tell you wishy-washy BS nonsense and waste our time. They should be talking about hydrogen fuel, the evolution of our fuel system. They should be talking

about graphene and the industrialization. They should be talking about graphene all night. Can you imagine? It's not one. It's saddening. We're here in California

where gas is nearing $6 a gallon. Oil is close? It's not one. It's saddening. We're here in California where gas is nearing six dollars a gallon. Oil is close to one hundred dollars a barrel. Again, you say drill, baby, drill. That was good timing. Mr. Ramaswamy, how would you bring down drilling? Well, look, I think that we do have to run through the courts and get through that administrative state to make sure we're using the natural resources here at home. But here's the other thing that we can do that's easy. It would take forever, Mr. Ramaswamy. And it addresses the national debt as well as brings down prices.

Ian, did you point the snake? Put people back to work. It's funny because it gets them to correctly pronounce his name. We are using taxpayer money to pay people more to stay at home than to go to work. That is wrong. That contributes to our supply chain crisis. It contributes to inflation. That's the easiest way to unlock this economy.

And here's the other thing. We have to put the Federal Reserve back in its place. This is an agency that has gone rogue. So in January 2026, when I have the opportunity as their next commander-in-chief, we will have a new chairman of the Federal Reserve who places priority on dollar stability. And most importantly, send packing 75 percent of the administrative state. Reduce the federal employee headcount by 75 percent. Rescind 50 percent of unconstitutional federal regulations that are shackling businesses both large and small.

I've offered a very clear, practical plan to do it. That's how we unleash the economy. See, this is what's refreshing about him, is all these other candidates are just repeating the same old crap from the 80s. And what Trump did in 16 was he had a new plan, and Vivek's got a new plan. Trump also called people fat pigs. I think one of the signature accomplishments of the administration

was in just a few short years. Excuse me. Rosie's in a perpetual frown. Energy independence. We became a net exporter of energy for the first time in 75 years. Under Trump? He didn't do that. Joe Biden declared a war on energy, which was no surprise because when Joe Biden ran for president, he said he was going to end fossil fuels.

And they've been working overtime to do that ever since. because when Joe Biden ran for president, he said he was going to end fossil fuels. And they've been working overtime to do that ever since. If I'm president of the United States, we're going to open up federal lands. We're going to unleash American energy. We're going to have an all-of-the-above energy strategy. And I have a plan that actually would not only reclaim energy independence, but in 2006, America lost our position as the leading energy producer on Earth. Jack Posobiec says,

credit where it's due, this is one of the most entertaining model UN debates I've ever seen. Nice. Vivek has such model UN vibes. They all do. Yeah. Governor, how about reactions reacting to that, please?

Because the only person who's leading an energy state, could I answer the energy question? Yes, you can, Doug. No. So, you know, the first thing I'll say is what I saw at the United Nations is energy security is national security. We need a president that understands

we have to partner with our producers to make sure that we have their backs. What you don't need is a president who is against energy independence. Rhonda Sannis is against fr Yeah. What is this? I think this hurts her. Because she was in the last bit. She was the stable adult. And she started out that way.

Yeah, now she's really going after people. She's a crazy lady. I don't think this is going to help her. You know what she's going for? She's going for the act erratically. That way when they criticize you, you can claim they're sexist. I just did a plan out in West Texas for American energy dominance. We're going to choose Midland over Moscow.

We're going to choose the Marcellus over the Molas. And we're going to choose Bakken over Beijing. And we are going to lower your gas prices. We are going to get that job done because it's important for our national security, it's important for jobs, and that's one of the best ways to drive down inflation. I've written lines that I was waiting because I thought they'd kill.

Have you noticed that Ron's smiling a bit when he's not talking? You mentioned that. It's because the last debate he did that weird wince, and it went viral. Yeah. But it still looks like that. You're not, you're not. They didn't vote on tracking.

You're totally wrong. They voted it in. Checked it. Checked it. That's what we did. Onshore, we do do it in Florida. Do do do. Said do do.

That was the Constitution. So that's just wrong. And let's just get real here. My plan will get the job done. We are going to be energy dominant and that's what's going to happen. You banned it before the voters even voted and the voters didn't even vote on tracking. Trump's polling at like 72%. will get the job done. We are going to be energy dominant, and that's what's going to happen. Why are they demanding it? Trump's falling at like 72%. It's like the vice president's debate.

We cannot talk over each other. That's why Trump's so vindictive. He's not going to pick anyone. Maybe the V8 president. Governor DeSantis, this is your question. The Biden administration is hell-bent on student loan forgiveness. But you say colleges should be on the hook when graduates cannot pay their debt.

How does that address the cost of college? How does that the cost of college itself? Because the colleges are going to have to make a decision. Do we offer do we expand the gender studies department? Knowing some of those graduates may not have great learning opportunities. No, they're going to focus on the things that really matter they're going to make different choices they're going to try to graduate people in four years i also just want to come back some dana asked last segment about 9-11 because i was just at the 9-11 memorial with the families my wife and everybody's very touching to be there and it affected my life because i ended up joining the military as a result of that um i had been a blue-collar kid. His ears are really big compared to his face.

I ended up getting through Yale and Harvard Law School and somehow came out more conservative than when I went in, and that is not easy to do. Had a lot of opportunities to make money, but I wanted to serve, and I'll never forget coming back on the plane from Iraq, landing in Coronado, California, North Island, and feeling that breeze off the Pacific Ocean. You know what, I am lucky

to have been born an American. And I think being able to serve, and I'll be the first president elected since 1988 who's actually served overseas in a war. I think that's going to help me as commander in chief to know how you see these issues and understand that there are real lives at stake for people

that wear the uniform. And we know that Governor Haley's husband is serving right now as well. And we thank him for that. Dana just preempts the Haley interruption. The approval rate for Congress is at a mere 19%. If this were a business, you'd probably all be fired in Washington. But you're here tonight looking for a promotion. In 2013, Governor Haley hired you for the Senate.

I'd like you to tell her why you should be promoted to CEO of the nation instead of her. Just insult all of them all the time. One of the things I'd say is if you look at our national debt of $33 trillion. Nikki, you're a shrill, awful woman. What are you talking about? Have this country pass a balanced budget amendment. That would constrain the spending in Washington in the same fashion that it does

in every state in our nation. Number one. Number two, if you want to actually reduce our national debt, you have to grow our economy. In order to grow our economy, you need to create about 10 million jobs to grow our economy at 5%.

You can do that in three specific sectors. Number one, the energy sector. We could create between three and three and a half million jobs if we unleash all of our energy resources. Someone's going to do like a song duet with this clip right here. We're the richest country if you combine coal, gas, and oil. Why not unleash all of our resources? Number two, we've lost 100,000 factories. 100,000 factories in the last 25 years.

If we continued on my made in America plan, we could bring jobs back to America in a similar fashion that we did when I wrote the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. We actually lowered the corporate tax from 35% to 21%, reshored or repatriated $1.7 trillion. We brought the unemployment rates for African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians to the lowest level in the history of the country and a 70-year low for women. Governor Haley, would you think you would deserve the promotion over him? Look, I appreciate Tim. We've known each other a long time, but he's been there 12 years and he hasn't done any of that.

He hasn't. They've only given four budgets on time in 40 years. He increased the national debt. He voted for the spending. He has made sure that the borders are open and they haven't done anything. It's OK. I don't know what anyone's saying. 12 years, where have you been? I'm kind of into it. I'm in real life. Yeah, it's gone very WWE. It has.

And it's really Nikki who's the agent of chaos. I got to be honest. If I was up there at this point when everyone's yelling, I'd be like, listen here. Body slamming. Just go right into WWE. Big victories for the people of Florida. What's the point?

And that's what it's all about. You can always talk, but when it gets hot in there, when they're shooting arrows at you, are you going to be stand up for parents' rights, keep the state free? Are you going to be able to do all those things?

And in the state of Florida, because of our success, the Democratic Party lies in ruins. We have won the big fights. We have turned our state into a Republican state. People respond to leadership. Like Biden won the debates in 2020, which is he didn't win it by being soaring and exceptional and spectacular.

He just won it by being the least like wacky person up there. That's the way businesses are actually run. Start with zero as the baseline. I want the lighting pictures to start collapsing. There isn't a blue state or a red state in this union that doesn't. The federal government doesn't do it. But successful companies, including the ones that I've built as a CEO. He's done very well tonight.

For all the attacks on him. The way he speaks, the way he did his hair, all planned. He's going for a cartoonish personality like Trump, I think. Not as silly as Trump is, but he's trying to make a character of himself. That's a good observation. We're already doing it in North Dakota. The border plans they're already talking about. We've got troops

down at the border, flying helicopters. Strong eyebrows. Down at the border of North Dakota. Trying to stop transnational criminal organizations from inflicting the invasion and the mass casualties in our state. And on the energy policy, we're already doing it. It's not saying when nobody else done the big fights, North Dakota was leading the charge. We won the battle to get the Biden administration who was ignoring the law.

They were the first administration since Truman that wasn't holding the quarterly required lease sales. And we won that in federal court. WOTUS, we won that in federal court. We're fighting the Biden administration on 20 fronts. To say that nobody's fighting the big fights, just look at the record of what we're doing right now. Energy, economy, national security have been talking about it since day one, and now finally, good, we're having the conversation about it.

But we've got the answer in North Dakota. I've said it for years. North Dakota has the answer. The government keeps getting bigger. One-fifth of all new jobs this year have been created by the government. Governor Burgum, you say you want to shrink the size of government, but it has been a century since any president has done that. Why would you be any different?

Well, because we've done it in North Dakota. When I took office, we shrunk the state budget general fund by 27% in the first four months I was office. And we, all the trains stopped running on time. Why? Because you had a business leader that was actually there. Inside of every government job, there's 10 or 20% of mind-numbing, soul-sucking work that even the state and federal employees don't want to do. And you can engineer that work out of the job. That would free up right there, 20% of 2 million civilian employees. And by the way, we've got 10 million jobs open. They'd have plenty to do, and they could be generating taxes instead of being paid by taxes. This is totally possible to do it if you have somebody that understands, because having worked in

technology for 30 years, everything we had to do was to be better, faster, and cheaper the next day. That's what we can do in government. That's what we're doing in North Dakota. All right. Governor DeSantis. Michael Malice's porky pig attacks Donald Duck. I want to ask you about something that is on a lot of Republicans' minds. This election could come down to less than 50,000 votes in three states. That's right. Abortion was on the ballot in six states in 2022. Republicans lost all of them. Next year, abortion will likely be on the ballot in Arizona. That is a must-win state. I want Nikki Haley to just admit she's pro-choice. Governor DeSantis, how are you going to win over

independent pro-choice voters in Arizona? Same way we did in Florida. We won the greatest Republican victory in a governor's race in the history of the state, over 1.5 million votes. We were winning places like Miami-Dade County, Palm Beach, that nobody thought was possible because we were leading with purpose and conviction. I reject this idea that pro-lifers are to blame for midterm defeats. I think there's other reasons for that. The former president, he's missing in action tonight. He's had a lot to say about that. He should be here explaining his comments

to try to say that pro-life protections are somehow a terrible thing. I want him to look into the eyes and tell people who've been fighting this fight for a long time. I was at, my wife and I earlier today were at the gravesite of President and Mrs. Reagan, and I noticed that there was a quote where it says, every single person has purpose and worth. We're better off when everybody counts. And I think we should stand for what we believe in. I think we should hold the Democrats accountable for their extremism, supporting abortion all the way up until the moment of birth. That is infanticide and that is wrong. Let me ask Governor Christie.

That was good. That was real good. Good answer. That was his best answer of the night. Do you think the Republicans can do that in Arizona if this referendum is on the ballot there? Yeah, because I did it in New Jersey, Dana. Then why are all these other states losing? Well, because they don't have leaders in those states who are leading the fight the way it should be led. Jesus up, shaking his head and making the... because they don't have leaders in those states who are leading the fight the way it should be led. And in fact, I was a member here of the only blue state that's represented in the double team. This is where the fight is really tough for Republicans.

And those are the states that we're going to have to try to win if we're going to win the White House back. And what we did was 14 times, Dana, in eight years, I vetoed Planned Parenthood funding. 14 times. No one else gets it that much. The Democrats just kept sending it to me, and I kept saying no because I believe in life. But I also believe in states' rights. And I think we fought hard against Roe v. Wade for decades to say that states should make these decisions. So we're going to have those fights.

I believe in life, and I believe that California should kill as many babies as they want because I'm a principled conservative. You have to be pro-life for the entire abortion is a federal issue nine months in the womb and we talked a lot about fentanyl tonight and we haven't spoken one moment about treatment but we need to make sure that for the drug addicted 16 year old on the floor of the county lockup weed her life is precious too and we need to be providing treatment to cure this as a disease that it is if you're pro-life you got to be pro-life for the entire life we start talking like that they're going to do what i did in the blue state which was get re-elected with 61 of the vote and won 70 of independence and 51 of latinos because i told them the truth from my heart to polarize this president pence the latest univision poll found

that 73 of of Latino voters think the Republican Party doesn't care about or is being hostile toward them, the Hispanic community. Only Governor DeSantis has translated his campaign into Spanish. How will you reach out to Latino voters?

Well, I promise you that we're going to continue to build bridges to every community in this country. I just wish you went out. I'm incredibly proud of you. All of you, I don't care. Citizens, all of you that we're going to continue to build bridges to every community in this country. I just wish you went out. And I'm incredibly proud of you. All of you, I don't care. Citizens, all of you are. I work on Capitol Hill to help you.

Adios. All you're talking about are the people here at League of Nations. That's not all I'm talking about. The lowest unemployment ever recorded for Hispanic Americans. The lowest unemployment ever recorded for African Americans. Go home. Protestants, out. for Hispanic Americans. The lowest unemployment ever reported for African Americans. 50-year-old for women. So I think the president

of the United States needs to be a champion for the American dream for every American. It begins with the unborn and the aging and the infirm. And it begins with

every ethnic group in this country. And I promise you, if I'm president of the United States, I'll be a champion. I'll be a champion for the American dream for Hispanic Americans and for every American.

How based would it be if he was just like, I'm not going to win. Everybody knows it. We're just up here to sell books. I don't doubt that. If you lead by example, it's the best way to get the job done. If you look at my office in the Senate, my chief of staff is the only Hispanic female chief of staff in the Senate. I hired her because she's the best highest qualified person

we have. I really wish I could be on this stage. I would be up there and be like, guys, no one on this stage is going to be Trump. Just say it to the people watching. Just since everyone's listening to me, let me talk about my opinions. I'd be like, I'm voting for Trump.

I'm up here to tell you I'm voting for Trump and y'all can't beat him. I'd probably get up there and I'd say, hey, no one up on the stage is going to beat Trump. Which is why I'd encourage you to purchase my book, Speechless, Controlling Words. As the UN ambassador, you literally... The knowledge that I cannot defeat Trump has left me speechless. I am only here to sell. Next. You got bad information.

First of all, I fought the gas tax in South Carolina multiple times against the establishment. Just go to YouTube. Against the establishment. Just go to YouTube. And you want to know what that 10 cent was? Shut it. When they wouldn't pass the gas tax,

the establishment and the companies wanted me to do it so much. You are the establishment lady. Here's what you have to do. All you have to do is go watch. That guy needs to shut his mouth, man. If you will give me the deduction and income tax, then I will look at your gas tax, which is why it didn't happen.

She does. She's so unaggravated. Secondly, on the curtains, do your homework. Did you send them back? Did you send them back? It's the State homework. Did you send them back? It's in the press. Did you send them back? It's the State Department. Did you send them back?

He should tell her to calm down. This is the point where you need Alex Jones to go. He should be like, you sound crazy right now. This is when Trump would walk in if this was actually a movie. What if all of a sudden the lights go out? Trump walks in. Highest rated show ever. Here's pyrotechnics.

He's got to make that happen for the third debate. He's just got to show up. Walks in from the back. The whole stream would freeze. for the third debate. He's just got to show up. Walks in from the back here. That'd be sick. The whole stream would freeze and all these people would be clicking in. Nikki's half right when she said that she was dumber

for having listened to Vivek. The reality is I'm dumber for having listened to all of them. You know, when she was going after Scott, and it's just the same thing. They've been sniping at everyone all night. But then when Scott just totally lost even the veneer of civilian, he goes, did you send him back?

What? What's good? What's good? Did you send him back or not? And then she goes, did you send him back? Did you? Wow. That's when I'm like, you need Macho Man to like storm him with a chair.

I know you are, but what am I? I know you are. Was it you, Tim, said that Vivek you are i think was it you tim said that what do you guys said that vivek is too smart do you think it's actually literally he's literally too smart to represent a stupid populist yes you need a stupider person to represent we've had smart presidents vivek is uh he's doing really really well but he my advice to him would be he's trying to target audiences like ours too much. The people who listen to this show are so well-read, they correct us in the comments when we get things wrong.

If you're trying to get a general swath of as many people as possible, he needs to tone it down a little bit to where the people who watch a show like this understand what he's saying. And I totally get it. But it's like cake, something simple and easily digestible, not some complicated dish. oh actually oatmeal is a better way to put it you know like with some brown sugar on top super easy to make everybody gets it it's oatmeal anybody can do it the thing about vivek is an exceptional guy in every way i mean this was true when i was in college he was like known as even at yale law school best law school in the country he was like a top guy and he was a big man on campus. And he's always been very impressive and exceptional. And but everyone knows it.

Whereas someone like Trump has always been more exceptional than just about any public figure in the United States. I mean, he's whether you love him or hate him. The guy has been a rock star celebrity for 40 years in what, like five industries. He's tried. He was in real like five industries he's tried he was in real estate then he tries out network tv becomes the top rated show then he runs for president wins on his first try i mean it's totally exceptional but it he doesn't seem that way he seems like a normal guy who eats big mac he makes it look easy and vivek is just he's very like high strung he yeah well yeah the vague just he just reads as the yale law school you know smart wealthy

guy which is which is impressive but if he could if he could be that guy and eat the big macs that would be done well done steak with ketchup that's right that's trump's thing but this is why when fetterman i guess someone was super chatting they got rid of the uh they reinstated the dress code like fetterman stop wearing shorts you're a slob. My attitude when it came to Fetterman was, yeah, I don't think shorts are appropriate but I certainly think it's silly that everyone has to wear a suit and women have to wear dresses or whatever.

And it's the right being like, no, there has to be a dress code. Blah, blah, blah. There's some people who I know that are not even super conservative but they've become tribal. I'll agree with the right on this for no reason. i'm like listen i i agree the shorts and the hoodie it's a little bit much much yeah but donald trump ate a 30-day dry age steak well done with ketchup and was mocked and ridiculed by the press why i i love this talking point regular people yeah who

aren't michelin chefs just want to cook a nice steak for their family, and they buy what they can buy from Walmart, and they like to cook it well done with ketchup. It is a lower class thing. Not all lower class people eat this way. I know that there are people who work really, really hard. They don't make a lot of money, and they learn how to cook a steak properly. But me growing up, my dad would cook great steaks, and then sometimes we'd get the dollar steaks,

and we'd cook them through in schlop ketchup. So when Trump does that, and the media insulted Trump, they were insulting all of us. When Fetterman dresses down, they're trying to play the same game to get conservatives to appear elitist and hoity-toity, and you have to dress in a suit. Is it true that he was wearing the hoodie

to cover up that bulge on the back of his neck? Yes, that's correct. I love the conspiracy theory that it's not really Federer anymore. Like, it really obviously is him. The Federer men. The multiple Federer men. I've been watching old videos of Donald Trump.

Lately, they've just been popping up in my feeds here and there and he was prolific and actually very intelligent. Like, I think you make a good point earlier he comes off as kind of a i mean i will say he comes off as a doofus because that's the way the media's been portraying him look that idiot that can't tweet properly yeah but he's very smart very very smart guy taylor swift right everybody starts ragging on taylor swift all of a sudden because she's dating that football player guy

and i see people saying like her music sucks and I'm like, her music does not suck and she works really hard. And there are people who claim that her music sucks and she doesn't work hard because they want to hate her. And I'm like, dude, they said Donald Trump was a moron and he's a billionaire. He's certainly smarter than you. They say he doesn't work hard. He certainly works harder than you. You don't

have to like Taylor Swift or like her music. I don't, but I know that the people who love it, it's because it is good and it's a product being sold yeah what if if you know if you said the product is bad i'm like well she just sold a billion of them right like certainly people enjoy it yeah love song i thought that song was rock star all right that was one of her first hopefully it's over in front of you 15 seconds starting now oh it's the end with all due respect i mean we're here like you know we're happy to debate i think that that's disrespectful to my fellow competitors

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Governor Christie, I believe I did see you write something. Governor Christie, I believe, excuse me, Governor Christie, I believe I did see you write something. Governor Christie, I believe, excuse me. Governor Christie, I believe I did see you write something on the card. No, but I'll certainly tell you. Okay. Look, I think I've been the only one on this stage who's been clear about this. I vote Donald Trump off the island right now. And the reason I vote him off the island. Well, I guess the question was, who would you vote on?

You know what? Every person on this stage has shown the respect for Republican voters to come here, to express their views honestly, candidly, and directly, and to take your questions honestly. I have respect for every man and woman on this stage, because

they've done it. Vivek, put your hand down for a second. Would you? You tell that nerd. So, chill out. Here, look. This guy has not always been at our party. He's divided families

all over this country. He's divided friends all over this country. I've spoken to people and I know everyone else has who have sat at Thanksgiving dinner or at a birthday party and can't have a conversation anymore if they disagree

with Donald Trump. It's not Trump's fault. It's the Libs' fault. It's the people who have the problem with Trump. It's DTS' fault. Trump was an excellent president, but the America First agenda does not belong to one man. It does not belong to Donald Trump. It doesn't belong to me. It belongs to you, the people of this country. And the question is, who's going to unite this country and take the America First agenda to the next level? When we rallied behind the cry to make America great again, we did not just hunger for a single man. We hungered for the unapologetic

pursuit of excellence. So yes, I will respect Donald Trump and his legacy because it's the right thing to do. But we will unite this country to take America first. It's a tailoring. It's very millennial. The rest are all wearing potato socks. Is it potato socks?

Yeah. You can see the light between his arms and his waist. Wait, that's it? That's it. Thank you to all the candidates. We've loved having you here tonight. Man, that was so dumb. Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

No final statements? No. They were going to replace it with lift up the card. Who do you vote off? Donald Trump did not cause the division. Donald Trump is an avatar of the rage felt by Americans. Correct. The division had already existed.

Yeah. I just, I would, I would love to, you see, we're, we, we, we're working on hosting some kind of debate. The problem is none of them will actually, Vivek will do it. Yeah. Right. I'm not saying we've, we've confirmed with the bank. I'm saying based on what we know of a vague's willingness to come on and have these conversations,

he is the kind of guy who was willing to be like let's sit down let's let's have these conversations totally but you're not going to get a democrat and you're not going to get any of these other republicans to do it i wonder if we could get um kennedy have you talked to kennedy robert kennedy oh you know i have even though he uh i grew up in the town that he lived in i was aware of bobby kennedy jr for much of my upbringing and i always thought he was a crazy lib and he still sort of is a crazy lib but politics is so nuts now that he's in. I was aware of Bobby Kennedy Jr. for much of my upbringing, and I always thought he was a crazy lib. And he still sort of is a crazy lib, but politics is so nuts now

that he's kind of on our side. He's still polling at like 19%, I think. Have you guys talked to him? Anybody at Daily Wire interviewed him? I haven't. One of them, maybe Candace would be likely. I don't remember, though. I have hopes that he would come on and debate.

Yeah, he would. He would. He would. We know he would. We've talked to his people. It just an issue of it's an issue of scheduling there's a lot of really high profile people that we're just working scheduling out with because everyone's super busy like doug bergham i know i mean the berg the bergmania man the challenge so the issue i take with this and the reason why they wouldn't come on this show

establishment uniparty republicans and democrats wouldn't come on a show like this because they can't stand up to scrutiny yeah vivek would come on a show like this because he can right i say hey vivek here's like when when he was accused of the sorrow stuff funding he made a video immediately posted and said guys let me address that for you like i'll talk about it because you this is what you have to do trump goes on tons of podcasts and he just sits there and he talks he calls into fox news he just rambles yeah that works that's better so there's there's people who can do it better than trump for sure but like when chris christie's like trump divided this country and there were friends who were fighting with each other it's just like shut

up dude that's not true and we're tired of listening to the bullshit. But also, like, if my crazy, you know, purple haired third cousin, twice removed, doesn't want to speak to me anymore because I voted for Trump, then that's her fault. That's her problem. Did you see the, there was a viral Reddit post where a woman said she broke up with her boyfriend because she found out he listens to Andrew Tate. Wow. Oh, yeah. And she's like, I couldn't believe he was like that.

And it's like, he never argued with you. He never insulted you or fought with you or did anything wrong. He never sold you for sex. No. She just found out that because he listened to Andrew Tate, it meant that he was a homophobe and she had to break up with him. That dude's probably like, oh, wow. Yeah, sure.

Okay. It's weird that her takeaway was that, oh, he's a homophobe. That's the rest of it. All these things. What? All these things. Yeah. Well, that about wraps up the horrible lesser known GOP debate.

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Michael, always a pleasure. Thanks for sitting through that. That was, I feel, it's like we went through combat. Not really. I don't want to make fun of it, but it feels like we experienced some group trauma.

Yes. We'll be able to look back on this. Are you going to read Super Chats? No, no, no. Basically, yeah, that was the Super Chat. It was the... You know my favorite part

of the debate? It was the beef sticks and the scotch. I felt that was the highlight of the debate. It was the beef sticks and the scotch. I thought that was the highlight of the debate. I call it bison sticks. Technically meat sticks, meat sticks. Yeah.

It's, it's a, it's a, it's a conundrum when there's big moments like the debates where we would normally do super chats and the members only, but the debate ends at 11 and I have to be up at 7am. So it's just like, I have my limits.

It was hot, hot heat. Thanks for sitting through it. Having a good time. What's up surge. Yeah. Wow. That was a was a lot uh i don't keep you guys too long i'm surge.com i'm looking forward to miami it'll be good uh just so everyone knows in order to watch that you do have to get a become a member on timcast.com just so everyone is aware uh yeah but we're gonna we're gonna put out a video like basically well so i was inspired by michael because i watched the

video you guys talking about backstage and the issues youtube was giving you yeah and then basically what happens for us with this with the the show we're doing is you know we're like yeah we'll do the show live or whatever and then there were questions of like okay we're gonna have people in the audience they can yell things what do we do about that and i'm like i don't know and they're like okay well what subjects you know because like youtube has their rules or whatever and i'm like i think we're for the most part fine to debate it and they're like what if they're swearing i'm like we're gonna be in a room with hundreds of people who can yell whatever they want yeah yeah it's way better yeah you prioritize the room and then the tv show it's not that it's

that you can get a troll you can get antifa yeah and then they said they then to sabotage and i'm like well say things you know this probably ends up working out best in terms of helping timcast grow i know i know like it would be great if we could give the show away for free but it was really expensive and i'm like well we'll make it a members only thing which makes the show better but the full podcast will be on all podcast platforms it's just at the live portion i understand because then we're like we have more control over if something happens in a live event right right takes one word and then those masters of the universe zap you down well so the other issue too is like public square is sponsoring it and i'm like you know if if someone's sitting in the

front row just is trying to screw with us yeah and then we lose the whole show because of it yeah is it better to do the live show members only but then upload it after the fact where we know we're good totally it's i think this is one of the reasons joe we're gonna stop going live i think it's the only reason yeah but well yeah so anyway everybody did the shout outs we're gonna go i can go to bed now i'm gonna have another beef stick yeah grab another one there's one right there thanks for hanging out everybody seriously thank you guys so much and we'll see you all tomorrow