Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #872 RFK JR Prepares Independent Run SPIKING Democrats, HELPING TRUMP w/Rich Baris

Episode Date: September 30, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil, & Serge join Rich Baris to discuss RFK Jr announcing he will run as an independent for 2024 presidential run, Mike Cernovich predicting Trump will lose the 2024 election, Scott Adams warning conservatives that they will be targeted by democrats, & the rising political tensions in the United States. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is, oh, here we go. Okay, we're live. RFK Jr. is preparing an independent run. So say the reports and based on the polling data it looks like this will be a major spike for democrats and now ross perot is trending on twitter but i like rfk jr i think he knows what he's doing and uh should be interesting obviously there was very very big news there's not much to add to it but rest in peace senator feinstein she passed away

that's the news you know a sad story but uh in peace, Senator Feinstein. She passed away. That's the news, you know, a sad story. But this is what happens. People get old. They pass on. So I can give respect to the public service. But outside of that, I must be honest, I am no fan of the professional lives of 99% of these people who are in Congress anyway. So human respect, rest in peace, Dianne Feinstein.

And I believe Gavin Newsom is going to be choosing a replacement, which will be interesting because now you've got Bob Menendez on the ropes. They want him to resign. He's not gonna with Feinstein out this weekend's Democratic control of the Senate. But I think they'll be fine before we get started on the news. My friends head over to Tim guest dot com. Click Tim cast IRL X Miami. Pick up your tickets. The event is next Friday. In one week, we will see all of you live. Friday, October 6th, Miami, with Patrick Bett, David James O'Keefe, Matt Gaetz, Lou Grodkowski.

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Who are you? What do you do? Polster. People's pundit. You know, I'm thinking about this RFK thing. Can I just start rolling on it? Well, it is really interesting that every so often we have a guest perfectly aligned with the big story. And right now the big story is that RFK is planning to run as an independent.

And then we have the people's pundit here to talk about polling. But we'll get into it in a second. We'll run through these introductions. So we've got Phil Labonte hanging out. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte hanging out. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, very failed musician, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Thank you, rock star.

Cheers. I'm Ian Crossland. Happy to be here. That's never going to get old. I'm looking forward. It's so much fun. Yeah, it is. It just gets better and better with age.

Well, Serge, take us home because I want to hear about Rich's thoughts on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's get started. Iamserge.com. Yeah. Let's get going. Here's the story from the post-millennial breaking rfk jr plans to announce independent run for president kennedy plans to make the announcement on october 9th in philadelphia

good place to do it according to media kennedy plans to make the announcement october 9th in philly with a text message viewed by the outlet stating that his campaign is planning attack ads against the democrat national committee to pave the way for the announcement. Bobby feels the DNC is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy. So an independent run is the only way to go. On Saturday, New York Times published a piece stating that Kennedy met with Libertarian Party Chair Angela McArdle in July at a Memphis Congress. I'm sorry, at a Memphis conference. He emphasized that he has

committed to running as a democrat but said that he considered himself very libertarian mccardle said adding we were aligned on a lot of issues including the threat of the deep state here's what i think i think they gave kennedy the middle finger which they should not have done he's polling decently i mean uh polls have him in a wide range from seven up to 25 i think you were saying before the show that seven's a little low 25 is a little high but if he runs as an independent and he goes after the dnc over this he is spiking the democratic party is going to help trump this is a couple of things one if you're trump though we had been asking if your guy doesn't get the nomination, what are you going to do?

And 33 of Republicans, of all, everyone, of everyone, everyone. So if for the Democrats, people who chose RFK, 30 something percent for months have said, well, if it's Trump, I'll vote for Trump. So if you're Trump, you're looking at it, you're like, I want some soon toected rfk voters like bernie voters in 2016 right so there's that part of it there is scant polling on this we're going to pull this we're going to pull this and we're going to pull this soon to see you know biden the democrat trump the republican uh and of rfk the independent and we'll put west in there too we'll see what it really you know that that's going to happen he'll be on the ballot cornell um oh yeah i mean democrats are going to get. He'll be on the ballot. Cornell? Oh, yeah.

I mean, Democrats are going to get spiked across the board. If this really goes, yeah. I mean, if this goes bad for Democrats, which, you know, it may not. I mean, I'll wait to see what the data says. But, you know, if it does, you're looking at the Ross Perot analogies. Accurate then, folks. You know what would be really hilarious, though? There's a lot. You know, Mike Cernovich has got a series of tweets that we're going to talk about a second very dire ones

but uh you know this fear of losing in 2024 and i'm just kind of like could you imagine if it's like donald trump gets 43 percent of the vote but biden because of cornell west and rfk only gets like 39 and he won't he'll wind up with tim he'd'd win states Republicans don't win if that happens. All right. Okay. No, I mean Trump. He would take like Maine. You know, he's definitely going to take Maine.

There would be some states that are really uncomfortable. So let's think about like, okay, Maine. Yeah. What percentage does the Republican candidate get in Maine on average for the president? Depends. If you're Donald Trump trump you get pretty close you take the second congressional district and you can get within eight points usually which doesn't sound like a lot but maine doesn't have big population so so uh so uh what what did we have so that means

trump's at uh where does that within eight points that what does that put him at 46 to biden's 54 i think it was yeah i think it was i think he got 44 last time something like and then biden ended up with like 42 or 43 well no 50 52 in may oh wow yeah so well i mean i was i i didn't realize he lost that much of the remaining votes yeah if though let's say west is on there he takes four so now fk takes 10 and then you're looking at Biden. Trump wins Maine. Biden with 38. Trump wins Maine with 45%. This is a game changer, man. You mentioned Ross Perot and what happened in 92.

I don't know if people listening even know the Ross Perot story, but he came out of nowhere, out of the business sector, and ran for president in 1992 against George Herbert Walker Bush and Bill Clinton. And everyone expected George Herbert Walker Bush to win his second term as president. He was the incumbent. But Ross Perot split the vote, and then Clintoninton took it yeah clinton never was elected with a majority people don't really get it they look back on him right yeah oh way less 44 percent right um they look back at him and he's got a high hindsight approval rating so people are like

oh well he must have you know they just think he he blazed right past bush and then dole he didn't um there is though something that's nagging me in the back of my mind, though. He's an anti-establishment guy. And when you have two anti-establishment guys, it just, I'm looking at it as a lane. You know, we'll see. I disagree. I disagree. There are leftist anti-establishments.

That's true. But, like, very few. And what I think you have 2016 where was i i was like i would i i said i said in 2016 i'm not voting for trump 2015 i'm not voting for trump 2017 2018 2019 then 2020 trump put out his list of what his plan was and then i said like if this is trump's plan these agenda items i agree with too much of this i'm on to honestly say I would vote against it. And considering they're trying to run Joe Biden and we know what Biden's all about, I cannot honestly say I could support the Democratic Party. There were a lot of people who are still Democrats who voted in 2020

for Biden who are now saying it was a mistake. But some of these people are saying, please let it be RFK or literally anyone else. They are begging Biden not to be there. If Biden is the nominee and RFK runs an independent, there are people who are Democrats who are upset about what happened with Joe Biden, upset at the state of the country, but still won't vote for Trump. They'll either not vote, vote West or vote RFK. Trump's floor is solid. Trump's bottom end is locked in. You are like the MAGA people. I i mean i don't think it works out you know the mega people are are just they're not going to change no matter what you i mean he was right when he said you know i could go out in fifth avenue and shoot someone

and they would still vote for him that is still the case the people that love donald trump love him to death i don't think that uh i don't think that that there's a whole lot of chance for joe biden if it's split up between you know between kennedy and uh i forget what his name is we were just talking about him west west west i mean though they will split the democrat and no i don't like trump vote up and i think enough where trump would get it now this is this is just talking a year and a half or a year and change early so obviously all this can change and this is just my first impression but i i'm confident that donald trump's floor isn't changing you know so yeah let me just

point out what because nobody talks about this what they did to this guy, changing the schedule, front-loading South Carolina. To RFK. Oh, I mean, the first in the nation primary and caucus status is out. That's done. We're talking about a culture, a heritage that went on for years.

There's a reason why. Joe Biden's state is South Carolina. That's his solid early state contest. And they front-loaded it on the schedule something that nobody would ever think they would do oh they voted early they moved it on the calendar so they they iowa it no longer is the first in the nation contest and new hampshire is no longer the first in nation primaries it's a big move they did that intentionally or assumedly because to do it before rfk could even campaign they want to get the vote yes they wanted they wanted joe biden to have a win right away and then small states are cheaper

to compete in let me let me pull up this poll and we got 538 right here this is the democratic primary polls even though there probably isn't going to be one but this is interesting they've got kennedy in second place with 15 this is mclaughlin associates abc news in the washington post doesn't have Kennedy. They have Biden versus Harris, which is really interesting. Don't know why they would do that. Biden beats Harris by 30 points. Wow. And then we have Harris X with Kennedy at 20%

and a second poll at 16. We have Emerson with Kennedy at 14. YouGov with Kennedy at 7. And Rasmussen with Kennedy at 25. University of New Hampshire for the primary in New Hampshire has Kennedy at 9. Then you've got 19, 15, 14 as the remaining polls. All of these polls show Kennedy in second place in the double digits.

So about 14, 15 seems reasonable for Kennedy. We were at 15 last time. We're about to do another national. We tried to do one a month. He was at 15. I hope he runs. It would just be the most hilarious thing in the world if Trump gets 43% nationally and then wins. It kind of reminds me of-

With a felony. It reminds me of- With 91. When Bernie Sanders in 2016 was getting pushed out by Hillary and the DNC, and he didn't go independent. Now, RFK is going independent. I thought at the time Bernie was going to kowtow to the DNC, and then they were going to win, but they didn't win. So my projection ability is whacked since 2016. I thought for sure the deep state was taking it and for Trump to come out on top was shocking.

So maybe that can happen again. I don't ever. It's funny that all of these people were crying because the deep state didn't win in 2016. Like those videos of all the Democrats crying. It's like, oh, no, the CIA lost the election. The raincoat girl. No, I still see the picture. You see the rain crying. It's like, oh no, the CIA lost an election. The raincoat girl. No, I still see the picture. Do you see the raincoat?

Yeah, yeah. No! Yeah, it's just insane. What are you screaming for? What do you care? These people are insane. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.

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They're arresting protesters, putting them on 20 years. They're arresting their political opposition. Yep. And they're just like,'re just like this is fine i think like bro if anyone has a right to screen no they don't even want to admit that it's happening most of my friends that are that are left-leaning or that that are come from like the music industry or whatever they don't admit that or they they refuse to acknowledge that there are political persecutions they're like oh well it's fine because it's trump or the, well, they did this or they did that.

And the spirit of the law, the intent of the law is totally irrelevant to them. It's just, oh, the government said they did something wrong. I don't like those people. So the government must be right. It is totally un, like the unthinking, completely knee jerk gut react. Excuse me. So, man, it's disturbing stuff unimpeded i think rfk goes independent stakes votes away from decrepit joe biden democrats

lose trump wins but i don't see an unimpeded course i mean but hold on with with uh with if he runs an independent and he really does get 14 let's say 15 percent right now of the democratic vote so this means that the correlation what would the correlation be to the to the general vote like seven percent six percent uh well that depends on turnout the republic the electorate is getting more republicans so once upon a time it would be d plus three in 2016 something like that uh 2020 was even r plus one so wow yeah it's in the presidential election yeah the and and this is something that's big and people have to talk about it the the higher the turnout the more republican the electorates are going to

be now uh that is for the first time in my life i've never seen that before it always was republicans biting their fingernails hoping that young people don't vote you know non-white but it's not going to be two to one it's not going to be like five percent it's probably going to be around half to maybe like 45 percent yeah yeah i mean so so a little less than half if if rfk is pulling on the democrat side around 15 in the general election he might pull about six seven points away from joe biden yeah let's say the 38 40 of the electorate you know something there you go yeah so maybe six percent six percent not quite a third but a little bit more uh look at this so he pulled up the 1992 election bill clinton 43 and the funny thing is where people i i'm i'm asking this legitimately were people complaining that he did not get the

majority you mean back then yeah oh absolutely because right now they're all like republican trump won without getting you know in 2016 he didn't get the popular vote oh geez okay well imagine what's going to happen if rfk runs splits the democratic vote and trump wins with 43 percent this goes and there was a poll the other day about abolishing the electoral college same thing with this it goes back and forth depending on who is at the you know the butt end of the stick right so in 2000 bush won but he lost a popular vote democrats wanted to abolish the the electoral college in 04 um it looked like bush would win the popular vote then they wanted to keep the Electoral College. I mean, it just goes back and forth no matter who.

And Gallup has been doing that for years. That's why when something's in place like that, it shouldn't be up for national referendum. So I hate those polls. They're totally irrelevant. Who cares if somebody supports the Electoral College or not? There's a reason for it. We don't want a civil war upheaval. Let's keep it.

So this can happen again, though. or not there's a reason for it we don't want a civil war upheaval let's keep it you know so um this can happen again though so i'm glad you pulled that up because i tell people this when we're looking at trump's write-in vote people who are voting for trump in the primary say if the man is not nominated i will either write his name in some space on the ballot or i will not vote and it's 30 plus percent do those count those write-ins how if so you won't you won't see them that night they won't count them that night but yes eventually that we will you'll you'll let's uh let's i want to pull up these tweets from mike sernovich talking about what happens when we lose in 2024 now i certainly think mike is a bit um

what's the right word these tweets are very very very serious i believe think Mike is a bit, what's the right word? These tweets are very, very, very serious. I believe they may be a bit aggressive, but I think the spirit of them is correct. Now that I've given you that warning, you'll understand when I read them for you. Mike Cernovich tweeted, when we lose in 2024, I'll be hunted down and murdered by the regime. Have already had this talk with my family. All these goober conservatives think they'll be okay. They won't. Look up the Bolshevik revolution.

Y'all going to be imprisoned and you people have no clue. He was quote tweeting himself. He said in this tweet, showing these older tweets as I tend to be ahead, years usually on subjects, people attack me, and then years later copy my swag. Now I'll tell you the future. 2024 is total defeat.

The RNC isn't even running ads on X, let alone doing other voter registration at scale. He then said, when we lose, he'll be hunted down. And then he added this. If you're a conservative with a large platform, have you talked to your family about how you're going to be framed for a crime to be killed in 2024 if Biden wins? If you think this is hyperbole, you've not been paying attention. 2024 is life or death. It's time to understand. Well, I'll just show you Elijah Schaefer. He responded saying, I've already begun taking precautions. I'm international for a reason. find that uh to be a very interesting response from mr schaefer and uh while i do think mike's tweets may be a bit aggressive

it's not so people misunderstand these conversations because their view of the world is based on the movie and in movies what happens is the evil dictator supreme emperor takes power and then appears in a in a ghastly image of the hood and goes execute order 66 and then all of a sudden all the good guys are just purged from existence that's not really how it happens um what you need to understand about this stuff is okay so a tech entrepreneur in baltimore was just beaten to death raped and murdered in her own home and the man who did it was known to the police because only a few days earlier, he had beaten, tortured and raped a woman in front of her boyfriend and then set them both on fire. I say these things because understand that was for no reason.

When Mike Cernovich says when we lose, these things will happen, perhaps a bit aggressive, as I stated, because, you know, we don't know what the time frame for kind of extremism will be. But there are several things you need to understand. One, we've got Chaz Chop already happening. We've got occupations already happening around the country. These things don't happen overnight. If you look to the American Revolution, the Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre were years apart. Lexington and Concord was 11 years after the start of the revolutionary period. The actual start of the revolutionary war took 11 years from the start of the period we determined to be revolutionary. You get Chaz Chop in a matter of a couple of years, you have autonomous zones.

We currently have Stop Cop City right now in Georgia, where hundreds of people went out and staged these acts of violence. We have 100 people in Philadelphia ransacking stores in total disregard for the law. That's social breakdown and social disorder. What what I think would happen in the immediate is I'll just put it this way. Mike Cernovich is not wrong. I don't think he'll be hunted down and murdered. I think he'll be Julian Assange. People like Mike Cernovich, who pose a threat to the established order of the military industrial complex and the neoconservative, neolib military agenda, whatever you want to call it, you'll get Julian Assange, meaning they're going to accuse you like Russell Brand.

I would not be surprised if Russell Brand ends up getting convicted. They've already found Donald Trump civilly liable for the most psychotic rape story imaginable. They've already ordered the dissolution of Trump's companies, and he's facing 91 indictments. Now, that's Trump. But people keep saying this thing where it's like i'll be okay well aaron danielson is not okay he took two to the chest he's no longer around so perhaps again a bit aggressive because i don't know if it's effective messaging to say they're gonna kill you ah they're screaming well look guys the reality is dark days are in front of us. How long this period takes, we don't know. I actually don't think we're facing total defeat in 2024. I disagree with Mike on this. I respect his opinion. I think

he's very smart. I think he does see ahead better than most. But I do see a possibility for victory in 2024, especially now that RFK is running. This changes the game substantially. But just understand, even if trump does win it doesn't mean whatever is happening in this country ends when you have far-left extremists storming government property firebombing things when it is the norm for them to go on social media and and threaten people with death and the reason why we bring the story at first because the next door we're talking about is the guy who threatened to blow up andy no speaking event was arrested. So they're

still law and order, you know, a little bit. Social order is breaking down when you look at San Francisco, when you look at Philadelphia, when you look at Chicago, New York, these flash mobs all over the place. That shows social order breakdown. And understand this. What do you think the government does when social order breaks down? Do you think that the government will come protect you when you are under attack by violent mobs of lawless rioters? Look only to 2020 when in the face, there are two big stories. A woman was in her car surrounded by rioters screaming and banging on her car and she called 911 and they said, what do you want us to do? And she goes, they're attacking me. What do I do? I have my daughter in the car and they're like, ma'am, what do you want us to do? And she goes, they're attacking me. What do I do? I have my daughter in the car. And they're like, ma'am, what do you want us to do? Good luck.

Another guy in his apartment said that people were fighting in his lobby and the rioting was get there. And he was told, sir, the city is under attack. What would you have us do? I love the writing of the game Fallout 3. You guys, I think you're all familiar with it at this point. I've talked about it a lot. So for those that are familiar, Fallout video game, I know it's fiction, but it's

written by humans who are looking at what happens around the world and what they think may occur. The video game is about a nuclear annihilation, nuclear war, wipes out the world, and then everyone goes into vaults, simplified version. The government becomes something called the enclave, the remnants of the United States government. And you know what they do? They shoot and kill you in the game.

And this is, I think, correct writing on the part of the United States government. And you know what they do? They shoot and kill you in the game. And this is, I think, correct writing on the part of the game developers. The U.S. government will seek to preserve itself and you are in the way. So when we begin seeing non-citizens being shipped into Staten Island, what do the police do? Beat and arrest the residents of Staten Island. They seek to preserve themselves by any means necessary, and you are in the way. So what Mike is saying and my concerns are more so, it's not that Biden will get reelected and order the police to execute Order 66.

It's that they're going to say, circle the wagons around government and destroy in any way possible anyone who threatens us. If you want to know what's going to happen, you can look to what happened in the Cultural Revolution in China. There is ample examples of what happens when the government has a change of what the fundamental principles that government stands for means. And the way that the population reacts and the way that the government reacts we saw in 2020 a whole lot of rioting and a whole lot of stuff going on and the police could not and maybe they could have but they refused to do anything about it

i don't see any reason why if there is some other type of civil unrest like that, how the police or the government would behave any differently. I would hope that they would see the mistake they made in 2020 by letting it get out of hand and not stomping it on day two. It didn't get out of hand. To them, they got what they wanted. In fact, it worked perfectly. What I'm wondering is, because you were saying, I i think tim mentioned it's like a dissolution of order in the system but what i definitely see is a rise of organized crime in the system these people that are organizing on facebook chats wherever signal they're organizing flash mobs they're organizing

and it's like not one organization it's a lot of little organizations but it's a new type of organized crime that needs to be dealt with and it's maybe that the government doesn't know how to deal with it quite yet. I mean, they got their spy tech, but it's just so disparate. It's hard to see it coming. You've got nine poor kids in Philadelphia that want to get on a signal chat and decide to go break into a Best Buy at 9 o'clock. You can't. How does the government? So it might be that they are unequipped.

Worst case scenario, they're complicit. They're letting it happen. That's what I fear the most. Because if the government gets behind organized crime, then you're looking at a cultural revolution. That's what it is. Hopefully, they want to stomp it out as much as the citizens do, and they're just looking for a time and a place. He mentions the Bolshevik in the tweet. You just mentioned the cultural.

All of these have in common a plan for different tiers in society, right? So the average normal person that's a problem would be dealt with a lot differently, right? Maybe they just leave that to the flash mobs. Maybe they leave that to the activists and the extremists. But people like Cernovich, maybe even some of us, you know, I mean, seriously, that would be different. You know, the Julian Assange treatment, the lawfare when it can be done. You know, I know people who have been indicted in Georgia, were this close to being indicted in Georgia. So they're there, but I guess that matters. What role are you playing and how influential are you in opposing something that they don't like i do just

want to bring up this 2024 is total defeat i don't know if he's using reverse psychology there or what but he's right about the rnc not doing enough so as a pollster i look at this and i say they're indicting trump because he has improved so much with certain groups that republicans are not supposed to win they know that and they're looking at that and they're saying what what other choice do i have i might as well because if this man gets back in it may be me on the block um still the rnc is way behind in infrastructure they should have done much better in 22 and didn't because they still don't really understand what they're up against

and even watching because i i know about this even watching some of them trying to get it together and trying to deal with ballot harvesting uh it's a messiah complex on the right everyone wants to be the hero they're not working together like democrats work together well i highlighted this in a segment where i was talking about democrats going full communist because they're cheering for the ruling against trump's uh businesses where the judge basically banged the gavel summary judgment no more trump organization and uh i showed this voting uh chart of the uh social scale and the economic scale trump's voters are anti-woke but spread out between the left and the right trump even has communists to support him like i don't mean like um the ideological communists of the woke i mean people who believe in very far left progressive economic systems of government control

they all he has very few actually laissez-faire capitalists interestingly but they're very it's it's the cluster is in the center it doesn't surprise me the democrat block is clustered entirely in the far left social and economic area, which means they mostly just march in lockstep. Not completely. There are Democrats reaching up into the less woke area, but the cluster, maybe the plurality, large or majority, is all hyper concentrated in one circle. Ultra woke as far left as possible in both economic and social. Again, Trump's base was anti-woke, opposing the social left, but spread out in terms of economic policy, which explains shows like this. a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience

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But I have to point out again that they know that. They're starting to see that. So, you know, Obama's old pollster puts out a poll last month and he's having a meltdown over it. And of course, they're all trying to make themselves feel better. So on top of that, they're trying to see how some of the people on different ends of that spectrum react if you ask things like, well, what if he's convicted of one felony, two felonies?

They're just trying to get some good news out of it and when all is said and done a lot of these people i don't think are going to care when they are looking at maybe they're not saying it out loud like cernovich is saying it but i do feel like listening to people that we interview all the time a lot of people are are where cernovich is here even being hyperbolic. And if you notice who is... Well, he's saying it's not hyperbole. Yeah, right, right. Even if you look at who is most angry at these responses or think he's being hyperbolic, it's a certain group.

And I don't know who watched it or who didn't, but Bill O'Reilly was interviewed by Tucker the other day. And Tucker said, well, what's going to happen here? Is Trump going to be elected from prison or what would happen if he is elected? And Bill O'Reilly just kind of still, even now, just dismissed the idea that Donald Trump could be convicted or would be convicted and sent to prison. Oh, worst case scenario is going to be in house arrest in the White House. And I just feel like this is a real big generational divide on this that uh there are still some older people who haven't seen it

but again in in the primary and i can say this from polling the primary trump's big lead really started to happen when older voters couldn't believe that he really was indicted they didn't think it would happen i want to i want to highlight just real quick this article this is from uh the rap from july 1st 2020 dilbert creator scott adams says republicans will be hunted if biden wins election there's a good chance you will be dead within the year adam says definitely hyperbolic okay no within the year you are not dead only aaron danielson was a few months later so my point here is and i'm being uh somewhat of a dick when I say that, is that he was actually fairly correct despite being hyperbolic. Scott Adams said, you'll be hunted. And then a few months later, they just walked up to this dude and shot him for being a Trump supporter.

Just put two in his chest. We've not seen that repeated on a great scale. So consider that, right? And also consider consider would you have heard this news were it not for the internet so i i want to make sure people understand that uh bad things happen and you need to balance the is this a one-off of portland being a crazy bleeding kansas type state or is it really as bad well look scott adams says there's a good chance he'll be dead within the year like okay dude yeah it's been three years since i got elected we're all here we're all still

working so i'll say something similar to mike cernovich i do think alarm is warranted but perhaps a bit aggressive gentlemen perhaps a bit aggressive right yeah for sure the way he phrased it too like i don't have the tweet in front of me anymore you are going to like talking to me saying we are like don't pull me into your little muck there mike i get what you're saying but i'm not part of your group there no but they go after you it doesn't yeah don't don't don't scare try and scare me into making a point and get me to follow you it's junk it it's i think that the point really is because of the way that the left has framed the the quote-unquote sides anyone that's not on their team is somehow on the other team it's the basket of deplorables comment that clinton

made if you do not fall in line and you have the if you have the wrong politics and that doesn't mean trump's politics that means not their politics then you are on the outside and you are just as liable to be thrown into the group of the bad guys as anyone else is it doesn't matter if you're a maga person or you're like one of the the the free staters up in up in New Hampshire that are libertarians or, or whatever. If you are not on board with their project, then you have the wrong politics. There is the,

the thing about political correctness is there is the correct politics. And that means everything else that is not, that is incorrect. So it doesn't matter what your politics are all it matt all that matters is your politics are not theirs so you can't you don't you don't get to walk away from it in a revolutionary period a communist revolutionary period it is not the revolutionaries who are killed first that's after the revolution they begin purging revolutionaries the so in terms of if we are undergoing something

akin to what cernovich and scott adams have described so to understand the context using this room as an example ian you are their first target you are a collaborator and you are uh you have less defenses so when it when it comes to a Robespierre type period, they're going to be looking for people who they view as collaborators who don't have the means to defend themselves. Look at it this way. Spanish Civil War style.

You've got people who are living in the neighborhood where there's a conflict between the nationalists, like the Republicans and the communists or whatever the factions were, fascist Republicans, come whatever you want. And so can they go into the territory that is militarized and fortified by their political opposition? No, they can't. But what about the collaborator who lives down the street?

So that's, I'm not saying you literally, I'm saying in the context of what this is, you've got, there will be someone who is known to have spoken out and said, you guys are wrong. This revolution shouldn't happen. I'm friends with those guys. In the revolutionary period, those are the people that get gulagged and purged. The people like, in this instance, me or Phil,

are the ones in the fortified areas they can't get to. I'm speaking figuratively, not literally. So in terms of, can the government come and start arresting people in charge? Well, they are. And there's a reason why, when it came to January 6, there are certain high profile people who are targeted. Yeah. Certain high profile people who are not targeted and certain and most people who were targeted were low profile and no one even knows their names. If the federal government were to indict Alex Jones.

Hey, hold on. They indicted Owen Schroyer, despite the fact they were both part of the same event because Alex Jones would create too big of a backlash. And they know, hey, if we drop a boulder in this lake, it's going to wake everybody up. Owen Schroyer, we can mess with and it will be a moderately sized rock that will cause a splash, not too bad. But all these little pebblesbbles we can strip them all out with no opposition after they strip away the pebbles then they can go for the boulders so when you say stuff to like scott adams you're like don't say that don't don't put me in your group your group no it's a mike cernovich well right either right and my point

is this but he didn't he didn't do that to me overtly i'm just saying if i had my point is this. But he didn't do that to me overtly. I'm just saying. My point is. If I had a tweet right in my face. Their tweets are definitely, in my opinion, a bit over the top. For sure. I think they're describing something genuine, but very alarmist in how they do it. And it's funny because everyone says that about me when I describe civil war. And here I am saying, guys, you know, it's been three years since Biden got elected. We're still alive. Okay. There are a few people who have died in a revolution.

They're going for collaborators and people who are unaligned and refuse to stand behind a line because you're not you're you're you're uh you have you have you you lack defense so it is not literally you i'm trying to say i'm saying it's going to be the dude who's at work and being like look man i'm keeping my head down yeah they're going to be like look bro we've seen your facebook okay the group of trump supporters over there they got they fortified themselves they have a parallel economy you you're fired so again i'm clarifying i mean this all figuratively what i think will end up happening is there's going to be a dude working at a factory and they're going to be all going democrat democrat democrat and all these conservative

trump supporters are building a parallel economy forming companies forming jobs downloading apps like public Square so that they can keep working and working in the film industry and the music industry. And then these guys who are working at these companies where they're just like, look, if I just don't say anything now, the boss is going to come and they're going to be like, so you went into a meeting yesterday with janet by yourself it's like yeah she was asking me about the tps reports but yeah um you're being accused of sexual assault so we're gonna have to escort you out of the building and things like that so uh that is to say quite literally you work at timcast you're fine i'm saying these people who think that they're going to say nothing and i'm not involved with you don't don't rope me with you if i stay away from these guys i'll be safe no you're the first ones to get fired first ones to lose your job you're the collaborators you're the the you're you're the the opposition you know i'm listening to you say this

and give these examples though and maybe it's not widespread it's not it's not yet but i'm thinking about after january 6th i had uh i got i got these military documents And what they were saying was, we're going to start to look through people in your company. We're going to start to look through their Facebooks and their social posts. And if they liked something from these groups, then obviously they were going to do something, discipline them or something like that. That's within the military.

It wasn't widespread yet in the populace, but guess who was in there the proud boys you know those groups i want i want i want to uh so i don't know what happened to those people but they had it there was a marine corps by the way i want to publish them on twitter i want to jump to this next tweet from mike cernovich so uh let's fresh segment let me just uh for those are just tuning in cernovich has a series of tweets that are similar in essence to what scott adams had said in the last election that you know that he. Cernovich has a series of tweets that are similar in essence to what Scott Adams had said in the last election that, you know, that he believes Cernovich believes he'll be hunted down and killed in 2020 after 2024. If you know, if we lose, he says, if you're

conservative, the large platform, have you talked to your family about how you're going to be framed for a crime? He quote tweeted this. He says 2024 is life or death. And he quote tweeted saying John Eastman facing disbarment for a legal memo on an open constitutional law issue. Trump, judge said Mar-a-Lago only worth $18 million. Michigan, elderly Republicans indicted. Georgia, fake RICO case. SCOTUS is the only stop gap. Once that's gone, there's no law.

I'm not even convinced SCOTUS is because when it came to Texas v. Pennsylvania in 2020, SCOTUS said we are too cowardly to answer a question on original 2020, SCOTUS said we are too cowardly to answer a question on original jurisdiction, which is insane. They have to, and they didn't. I believe Thomas and Alito are correct. I highlight this to make the point. While Cernovich and Scott Adams saying it's life or death may have been hyperbolic then, maybe now. Cernovich says it's not hyperbolic, and these are all goober conservatives who don't think so. He does point out something very

important in this tweet. Michigan, elderly Republicans were indicted. It is not hyperbolic. And these are all goober conservatives who don't think so. He does point out something very important in this tweet. Michigan, elderly Republicans were indicted. It is not going to be execute order 66, as I stated in the previous segment. It is going to be you are you committed fraud. That's right. Yeah, we we we think you committed fraud. So you're under arrest. Elderly Republicans were tasked were electors were

asked to sign documents in the event lawsuits were won they would require these documents it is a normal constitutional procedure michigan indicted them and they are facing the rest of their lives in prison overdoing what they are constitutionally requested to do they'll use the irs oh hands down they are obama already did it yeah oh obama went after uh what tea party groups party groups that's right yep so it's it's crazy to me that people are like cernovich is out of his mind okay again like i don't know about you just being dead right away but 10 years ago obama used the irs to target his political opponents now look where we are they're arresting lawyers you know they're

arresting lawyers the judge a judge in new york on summary judgment banged a gavelin said the trump organization is to be dissolved and then sanctioned the lawyers for arguing if there's no the system already is is fractured and busted up yeah we see it like we were talking earlier about in 1992 with like i don't we talk about rodney king earlier in the week but like just the chaos and the things that have happened that didn't get televised but now like anything any guy can tweet out eight things that have happened aaron danielson we talked about a million times like that probably wouldn't even got national media attention or maybe it would have but likely may not have gotten national media so i agree this could be an example of just taking these things and blowing them out of proportion but i think the trump indictments are just beyond the pale

like that is it's history yeah it is it is one of the most egregious violations of of this country's values laws norms rules the constitution and it is one of the most if not the most significant thing that has happened to this country since its founding. Right. You can talk about the Civil War. And then I would say, OK, perhaps we can have a conversation about the Civil War that when Abraham Lincoln was trying to he tried to. I don't think he did actually indict a sitting Supreme Court justice. But this was secession and then conflict. So right now, this could be on par with these moves that led to 1865 it's like a we're in a different

country and literally like the same name but because like someone in in tacoma washington will be online talking to their best friend in england and they're they don't have any friends in tacoma because they're online so it's like a different world a different reality this country now 1861 i should have said you know you said it's like we're a different country that's the difference between this country and other countries or has been that we don't beat each other political opposition uh in the juror box we beat them in the ballot box that's really you know something that one of the only things that really does or did separate us that's not happening now that's the real difference in the major uh shift and you know i it people ask me how is this going to

impact the election i think it's just a matter of it's a fight it's a fight between wills it's a matter of resolve and you're going to get hit with something new every day they want to remove them from the ballot here and you just brought up the civil with something new every day. They want to remove him from the ballot here. It's just brought up the Civil War. The last time Democrats removed a candidate from the ballot was Abraham Lincoln in 1860. That's it. It's really the only time I can even recall it being done. They removed him from the ballot in southern states.

They removed him from the ballot. And here's the funny thing. What they're trying or want to do now is remove Trump from the ballot in blue states that he would otherwise have very little prayer in winning anyway that's what happened to lincoln and he still won but uh there are four candidates that's right the vote was split similarities are sick man what if it's cornell west parallels rfk biden trump giving It's Cornel West. Parallels. RFK, Biden, Trump, giving Trump 37, 38%, but enough to win. Yeah. Yeah. And then they take his name off the ballot in blue states.

Removed off six states. Right. This is crazy. Because there could be, and that's why you saw it in Colorado, in a situation like 16, when we had disaffected voters going to Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Colorado got close there, Tim. Got way closer than it should have been. So did New Mexico. What people need to understand is that Strauss-Howe generational theory is not this profound discovery.

It's just the writer's cycle for Earth. Simulation. Seasons 1, 2, 3, and 4, right? Season 1, the American Revolution. Season 2, the Civil War. Season 3, World War. World at War. They had to spice things up. It wasn't just enough

for America to be fighting. And so now we're going for, how about... Interdimensional. No, Civil War and World War 3 at the same time. Space aliens. And then aliens come. All at the same time. Every time something crazy new happens that is like a, we passed

this Rubicon. we crossed this line it does seem to be aliens something like that they're trying it but the water's too hot they keep pulling their toe out it's just people don't buy it but it used to be and you were kind of maybe you're alluding to this but i was thinking about it where you're talking that it you'd get the presidential vote whether you hated the guy or like the guy you'd vote it didn't really matter like yeah your your commander's the commander but congress runs the. It didn't really matter. Like, yeah, your commander's the commander, but Congress runs the show. It doesn't really matter. And so, like, let's all enjoy life as Americans.

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jacksonian democracy which started to ramp it up uh not which reached around like 20 20 some odd percent yeah which makes sense because then when women's suffrage happened it basically doubled so women started voting what did jackson do that enticed voters one man one vote you have no representation and then there's actually a lot of parallels to trump as well and he loves trump loves jackson um you know he won too early like trump which i think you could argue trump came in and i i mean i remember in 16 saying to people you know the election of one man a revolution does not make here there are still a bunch of cheese republicans in the in the senate in the house then you know

this is not gonna go how a lot of people think it's gonna go that happened in jackson and uh the the establishment status quo came at him, and he had to regroup. And this is something Donald Trump still hasn't, at least not yet. I have not seen him learn. He should just run with his own slate of candidates. Look at what is going on right now with this debt fight, with the CR, the continuing resolution. He wants them to defund the political law. That's just not going to happen with the current

bunch of cowards that are in Congress. It's not going to happen. We know who these people are. We know the talent that's in these same districts. Go after them. Trump should be running the America First ticket. Not the Republican ticket.

He should be running the America First ticket. And if you're for me, in Texas 12 you vote for John O'Shea. If you're for me you vote for Matt Gaetz in Florida 1. If you're for me, that is that benefited a lot of bad people in 2016.

Trump always gave more than he got from the traditional GOP coalition and he drug a bunch of losers over the finish line who would then stick a knife right in his back. So this is something he's got. I know the guy's busy with lawfare. He's trying to run for president. You're going to repeat 2016 and 17 all over again if you don't do this. So like where Lindsey Graham, he said, everybody vote for Lindsey Graham. And they did, and he won. Big mistake. Okay. So you're saying he should specifically um so like where lindsey graham he he said everybody vote for lindsey graham and then

they did and he won and the big mistake okay yeah so he should you're saying he should specifically like should he should he denounce certain people that he has no because you don't want to make enemies yet like there's nothing you can do about lindsey graham and plus you want to win south carolina you don't want to lose um there is up country super conservative south carolina and then there's horry county you County and other places around Charleston. You don't want to lose that. So you don't pick fights with people you can't remove. But there are – I mean, they're allies.

And congressmen are up every two years. We know who the senators are. And one I just mentioned, Texas 12, this is a woman who is the appropriations committee. So this is relevant to right now. I think Matt Gaetz was just on your show making a deal about this. Kay Granger made a deal with Trump. She had Chris Putnam on her butt, and Putnam was in the lead. And she said, you know, I need the president's help for his endorsement.

And he said, I need your help on impeachment. He gave her the endorsement. She defeated Chris Putnam when he needed her the endorsement she defeated chris putnam when he needed her support in the impeachment hearing and the vote she went home pretended she was sick and refused to vote by proxy i mean this is the kind of spineless and it's not even spineless in that case it's just backstabbing it's treachery you know and you're not going to affect meaningful change with that kind of treachery. If I told people that there are maybe three to five tops, and I think I'm being generous at five, solid Republicans in the U.S. Senate, out of all of them, I wonder how many would be surprised.

Matt Gaetz had to fight tooth and nail to defeat that spending bill for Ukraine. Finally, that was a big turning point 119 republicans voted against it uh i think 100 and something voted for it but against had more than not that's a big deal because that doesn't happen the house republican conference is probably 85 to 90 coward i may even be being generous with that. They're not really what they claim to be. John Duarte out in California, 13, ran on border security. I'm super Trumpy. And by the way, I need migrant workers, so I want to keep the border open. He voted against the trans bill the other day. I mean, these people say one thing, completely do another when they get in there,

and this is a uniquely Republican problem. You will not see this on the Democratic side. When was the last time, Tim, you saw a Democrat promise something, right? That's a liberal, you know, I don't want to say orthodoxy. Yeah, liberal orthodoxy. And then get to Congress and stab their voters in the back. AOC did it. With what?

Famously with Israel. Oh, with, well, well. Right away. Yeah, no. And then all the progressives were like, whoa, whoa, she's taking the establishment deadline now. Yeah, I mean, on like, you know, and that's peripheral compared to like

trade or immigration is for Republicans, you know? So, you know, seriously, you know, I just. I just don't think their words are worth anything. Yeah, they should be putting their actions in smart actions smart i don't care if they're democrats or republicans there's like seven republicans where i'm kind of like yeah yeah maybe maybe like if they were like i'll endorse you but then you'll vote for me on that and they need to put it in writing or they need to put it into a smart contract so it triggers automatically they don't get to to rescind their their agreement but would that be like you know that's never gonna todd's wiki uh they used to

have great research on this like the whole system relies on that kind of a trust you know it is a status quo i'll scratch your back you scratch mine uh but when it's like complete betrayal you know then the whole thing's just there's no benefit for them to to sign something like a smart contract that automatically executes because the the possibility of changing is what gives them leverage to leverage one side against the other so they'll go ahead and they'll say yes i promise to do this but then they'll go and talk behind closed doors to their the people that will give them donations or whatever and say well you know we'll do this and blah, blah, blah. That's what Hillary Clinton came out and said that when she said, you have your public position and then your private position.

She specifically articulated it just like that. You have a public position and then you have a private position. The duplicity is part of the system. It's part and part of the system. It's part of, it's part and parcel of the system. It's what they use to, to get one side to play against the other. So the, the idea that they would ever agree to smart contracts where they say,

yes, I'm going to do this. And then when it happens, it triggers and et cetera, it won't happen because then they don't have the, the ability to, to basically the ability to lie it's just like when when you say oh you know we should we should get uh we should get um term

limits for people in in congress and etc etc they're never going to vote for that let me let me uh talk about politics of scale so so people can understand why politicians literally don't care about you why hillary clinton never cared about gay marriage but claimed to support and then privately said she was opposed to it because it doesn't matter to her. The people who are running the country are simply thinking about how do I maintain maximum power? And they view themselves as the American people are. It's like an ant farm or a chicken coop. I like using the chicken coop analogy. They need more eggs to have a an egg fight with people

in china and they don't care that much about the chickens i mean they don't want the chickens to die but when a chicken dies they're like well i'll just get another one right so let me explain something about it so everyone can understand i can explain it in the best way that i can relative to uh my business when you start a show or a coffee shop or anything and your business is directly associated with a small community. Maybe you make bagels and you sell them to the public. You know that you have about a thousand regular customers. And then you have maybe like 2000 people who come and go that you'll never see before. On average, they'll visit your shop one time, never come back. 3000 people. You know

why Jim didn't show up today. Oh, he comes in every morning, gets an orange juice, and he gets a bagel with cream cheese, and then one day doesn't show up, and you're like, I wonder where he is. Next day he shows up, and he's like, oh, you know, something happened with the dog. A special circumstance occurred. As your business gets bigger, you start to notice that the weather has profound impacts, whereas some things probably don't matter to the individual partaking them. It has a tremendous impact in the back end of a larger scale business. That is to say, to what degree does winter, does summer, and does rain affect a YouTube channel?

Now, most people who are fans of the show watch the show all the time. But one person will simply say, you know what? It's really nice this Friday night. I'm going to go out and hang out with my friends. I'll catch Timcast IRL later, you know what? It's really nice this Friday night. I'm going to go out and hang out with my friends. I'll catch Timcast IRL later. But guess what? This is replicated by three to seven percent of our viewer base. I cannot address the single individual who doesn't show up for whatever reason. And most people probably think this one person not showing up doesn't matter. But in the back end, when you have a scale of a million plus viewers,

you actually can see insane trends. So this actually plays to what AI tracks as well when it comes to health and fitness and like when they're looking at blood, like your blood oxygenation and they can find cancer. We actually see crazy things in our data that you wouldn't notice

unless you have millions of viewers. And then you're like, nothing you can do about it. It's hard to get super, I don't know, it's kind of hard to explain. But the general idea is we can see weather patterns in viewership and then I can correlate, oh, viewership was down in this region. I bet it was sunny out and 65 degrees. And then sure enough, we can see that's right. In Southern California, it was a beautiful day. Nope, that's obvious.

Oh, what's that? Viewership was really high today. I bet it rained. And then we check. Yep, rained. More people watch. So when you're in government, relate these things. You are thinking about, we want more oil.

More oil means more money. More money means more power. More power means we control more regions. They are not thinking about you as a human being and your child. So when it comes to issues of like, why do they want to sterilize kids? Why do they want to abort kids? Because they don't care about you as an individual. Your life is meaningless. They're looking for a 7% return on their investment. Nothing else matters. They're looking at their chicken coop and saying this new feed is going to kill off 20% of the chickens, but they're going to lay twice as many eggs so we're actually getting more eggs because

20 less chickens means 20 less eggs but for the chickens that survive we're getting two times the eggs so this is even better they don't care about you this is how government at scale works they will sacrifice you your individual pattern of behaviors is meaningless to them, and they will just simply maximize economic output to the detriment of large swaths of the population. That being said, fair point, man. When Matt Gaetz was here, he said something very important that I hope people understand. We were all laughing and cheering for a government shutdown. as fans of Matt Gaetz and his work in Congress, not constituents in Florida, but fans of the work he does, I was like, this is fantastic. Here's a guy who's sticking it to the government. It's going to cause a shutdown. Guess what? I don't care if the government shuts down. Doesn't hurt me. Guess what? Disabled veterans, very scared. So when you're Matt Gaetz and you know, you have to stop this omnibus spending trash, but it could mean a government shutdown. And then comes a knock

on your door and there is a disabled veteran and he says please don't take my paycheck from me i have given everything what more must i he's got him there and then and then matt has to say my friend i understand and i'm sorry we have to do this but as a politician the the confrontations that you'll experience that the circumstances are going to be do the right thing but no matter what you do you're going to piss somebody off and do we as people who want to solve the problem of omnibus spending want to sacrifice the well-being of our disabled veterans to get there that's a that's a very difficult question isn't it so you'll end up

with politicians most of them don't care at all they're simply asking themselves how many disabled veterans are going to lose their money and how will that affect my numbers come november that's what they're but because november's in the short term right right so matt gates and you know bless him for it he's thinking guess what you're not gonna have a check at all when this debt bomb blows. And guaranteed, all of these dirtbags are going to be pretending they were right up shoulder to shoulder fighting with Matt Gaetz when that happens. I mean, if we could fast

forward, guys, if something doesn't change and we could fast forward, I don't know how long it's going to be, nobody does, but we could fast forward to the future when we have to really be held accountable for this reck're gonna recklessness you're gonna you're gonna hear members of congress go when get matt gates and i were fighting against this totally everybody everybody uh even democrats even democrats you know if it wasn't for the

republicans trying to give tax cuts to the wealthy we would have had this under control um and that's the tragic part about it because oh you know we can't can we grow our way out of this problem anymore you know maybe under trump when uh we were seeing a period revenue was coming in from the tax cuts and job act and it was starting to rise because we were in that goldilocks zone of corporate tax rates and then we were growing at three percent or more if covid didn't hit that was our window the window's closed we need a new fuel source now oil is too expensive and heavy we need hydrogen fuel if we can transform our economy into a new form of productivity

because money is not what it's about it's money it's about productivity what are we creating what is the value of the things we are creating so if we can create cheap fuel and um i think graphene is a building material you get the graphene is the byproduct of the hydrogen formation you actually make four dollars and fifty cents for every kilogram of hydrogen you produce but new technology i gotta stop right there you're wrong i'm sorry oh tell me you're wrong uh we need cold fusion i'm open to that it's not it my my real point is that you're actually correct i'm just never going i'm just pedantic. I'm saying that beyond just hydrogen, the nuclear energy right now is a very, very important source of energy for us. And this is all obviously like we as chickens in the chicken coop. I'm just assuming that the information we've collected and gathered being disseminated is correct. But they lie to us all the time. So it's hard to know, but they oppose nuclear energy, despite the fact that it's carbon neutral and it has a massive, I believe it's the highest energy return on energy invested. That means for every calorie of energy that goes in, you get, I can't remember what it was. I watched a documentary about it. It was like 50

energy out from nuclear, whereas like oil is 30 and like solar is like 0.7. For every calorie of energy going into solar, you actually get less output granted it's improved dramatically the thing about solar is more so decentralizing the grid in the event of a military strike cyber attack or otherwise um and also creating diversifying it's diversifying but also that's why i use it too the reason we got solar is not because we're like we're going to be good stewards of the earth yeah i don't think that's the case i think it's if the power goes out we're good right so nuclear energy is the first step you're right about hydrogen but we should start with nuclear power plants you think so i like hydrogen because it's um individuals can

can use it and they're carried around with them and put it in their car if we can make hydrogen gasoline hybrid engines but but but for now the infrastructure for nuclear exists and then we need to start expanding the infrastructure for hydrogen and for other materials ultimately the point and i want to drill this into every politician's head every businessman's head the answer to our economy the solution to our economy is not in the economic it's not in the money it's in the productivity of devices and technologies so yeah yeah and and that's another tragedy of the post-covid economy and and you know i don't care what your party is joe biden winning we started again to move away from that and uh under trump we went back to good produce you know good

goods producing uh productivity was obviously increasing it you can kind of get away too with having it and i don't want to encourage debt but if you make things the world needs and you are the leader of that you you get grace, period. If your entire economy, which is, you know, your strength is based on the petrodollar and you're not making enough, it's too expensive. Your debt's ridiculous. That puts you in a bad way. We may buy ourselves some time being something that somebody needs this is this honestly i think the the more reasonable the more likely reason that uh the u.s and israel teamed up on stuxnet to blow up the iranian

centrifuges was not because they're making nuclear weapons it's because the west knew they were trying to make nuclear power and create an economy that wasn't functioning off of oil i'll buy that for a dollar i really will right and then the u.s was like the petrodollar is law don't make nuclear energy yeah but they needed an excuse for why they were attacking a foreign country and it was they're building nuclear weapons sure let's jump to this story we got some uh we got some big news this is from timcast.com woman who burned down wyoming abortion clinic sentenced to five years in prison laura roxanne green was given the minimum possible sentence for the arson. Laura Roxanne Green, 22, a 22-year-old, this is Gen Z, received the minimum possible sentence for the 2022 arson at Wellspring Health Access in Casper. I'm sorry, man. Look, don't, please,

please, we don't do things like this. You should not do things like this. We are trying to avoid this. We're trying to win through the process by which the founding fathers helped enshrine i understand a lot of people are the founding fathers fought and did a lot of stuff it's like dude they also fought to create a system where we could with the constitution the bill of rights solve these problems without having to that was the whole point right that was the whole point representation fight again they didn't want to fight in the first place and that's right quite literally the fighting was because they weren't being represented we now have a a crumbling fractured system but still an opportunity it is not it is not impossible so please this one we should not have done this

but i bring the story up because i have warned about this we have we've seen it before the attacks on abortion clinics and we've had the conversation on this show that when you start seeing uh states say abortion to the point of birth and other states say no abortion at all oklahoma and colorado sharing a border this is an inevitability now again people should not be doing this okay you it needs to be handled with by by by a law enforcement arbiter to shut these things down through the vote. And that's what you're getting in the states that are passing the laws and they're doing it by the book. Let them, let the left overreact and let the law take care of it because that's the process by which we have agreed we can get these things done.

However, it pains me to say, man, I hate to say I told you so. And I think we're going to see worse than this first of all she's getting the minimum five years in prison for burning down an abortion clinic did she actually burn it down did it burn all the way down well i mean i would assume if cassandra wrote it it burnt down did people get hurt but uh get murder charges snuck inside absolutely absolutely yeah i i don't think anybody was hurt because that would change. That would change the sentencing guidelines altogether. Yeah.

So, yeah, burning down is a direct statement. That means it would totally destroy the building, but I'm not entirely sure. Burn it into obscurity, into unrecognizability. Well, would she have a gas tank, gas canister or something? Gasoline in this building so of course this will also be weaponized by the establishment by the uh democrats and government absolutely they'll use this as a tool they're going to run these commercials in 2024 as uh why you have to vote for us there and say far-right extremists are doing this that are otherwise

my point is not to bring that up my point is simply to say people are on edge and this stuff is happening but but there is a better way to deal with this issue there are very very uh strong opinions on on both sides but republicans are not handling this issue well at all they're not and they create in every once in a while there needs to be a release valve in society and public policy if something's not going your way, unfortunately can lead to stuff like this. Republicans know where they have the country on abortion. And yet they just continuously overreach. I also want to make sure because this is not just about Democrats. It's the story here from the post-millennial leader in Richmond,

Democrat party group arrested after posting bomb threat against Andy. No. And Virginia talk. There is a big difference between threatening someone and then actually sneaking into a building and setting it on fire. So I want to make sure that's clear. My point for this segment is not to accuse one side of being worse than the other. These are two anecdotes to extreme instances. But it's worrisome to see these kinds of things happen.

There's already heightened political tensions. And now we have... Bro, these are young people, and they are just... Ruining their lives. They've lost their minds. After the... The firebomb lawyers in New York...

Mental illness is a big problem, Tim. After the summer of 2020, I'll accuse one side of being worse than the other side. No, no, no, no. I agree with that. I'm saying right now with these two articles. Ah, okay. I'm not here to be like, aha, like aha but look what the left it no obviously a threat is not as bad as actually burning a building down you know i'm highlighting these things to say there is

conflict in this country and people say things like we're not in a civil war and it's like civil strife i steven marsh describes it as civil strife it's the period before civil war it's like bleeding kansas perhaps that's where we're at i think portland is absolutely in a bleeding kansas state where businesses are fleeing flash mobs are destroying everything like people are are living in fear as crime runs rampant far-left extremists are getting whatever they want just real quick uh their antifa was marching down through the streets with rifles stopping traffic and controlling the controlling vehicles in in portland and in seattle with chas chop like it's it's happened all over you were saying rich about mental health i fully agree mental health is such a problem right

now and the health the degraded health of the country the minds of the people but like and earlier we were talking about utilitarianism and how like you have to decide as a government well how many chickens have to die in order for how many eggs to be laid? Okay. You cannot quantify mental health utilitarianly. It cannot be done. And the government attempting to figure out what's wrong with individuals by making blanket medications is like not working.

It has not worked. Gun violence has not gone down. I could not more strongly disagree that the government should be in a position to decide you know how many chickens especially when the chickens are an analogy for human beings the government is in no position to decide what humans should and should not live i mean this goes back to the argument that tim was having with sargon the other day about about the death penalty or whether or not it's it's legitimate or not and that your opinion on that aside the government is a result of the consent of the people the government does

not have a the right to to make decisions about the people the people make decisions about the people. The people make decisions for the government. And this is a fundamental, fundamental principle of a free society. The government's legitimacy comes from the consent of the governed. And it does not, the government does not exist to inform the people how they should think,

what they should believe, or how they should think what they should believe or how they should organize their lives period the problem and maybe you're right that it could that that's ideal but is that people will have faith in a government to govern people they don't know and that they'll never meet and they'll send their tax money to that organization and that government has to make decisions about where's the food going to go this this month who's going to get it who's not going to get it so that's what i mean but who's going to live who's going to die yeah they shouldn't be made that's that's what a market is for that's why we have that's why the government shouldn't be involved in markets but then you get a a individual business leader deciding like

vanderbilt no no shut off the trains to new york city no look at all the i mean right now you're talking about you're you're talking about you about who's going to get food and stuff. Grocery stores are all over the country. People can decide where to go on their own, and we don't need the government to tell us how to live our lives. But back before 1860, Vanderbilt, he owned all the trains in the country. Basically, he ran the country, arguably. He's the man who built America, Vanderbilt. And he decided one day he didn't like the way they were treating him, so he cut off access to New York city he's like no you're not getting trains in new york city anymore nice until you until you meet my demands and you realize how

dangerous this is to let the private sector run i completely disagree completely totally disagree with your perspective and it is only and if you empower the government to do those things, then you are empowering the government to decide who lives and who dies, who eats and who does not eat. And any government in history that has had that power has abused it. And it turns into piles and piles and piles of dead human beings. Let me just because you got you. You haven't gone so far as to really argue the point of a modern Democrat. But what you guys are arguing is a modern Democrat would say, but the government is the people.

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I mean, well, not in this society. Not in a true market. But maybe not in a true market. But they're not a true market. You know, if we stuck to our original design, I don't know why they named it this now, but as I did work on this for a book, they called it virtue capitalism. Like somewhere along the lines,

we need to re-emphasize some virtues that are about capitalism and to me and it's like have you read max vapor the protestant ethic and the spirit of capitalism that's not capitalism so the the pursuit of greed for greed's sake has been around since antiquity yeah and communism too that's exactly right it's everywhere it has nothing to do all right so when you hear aoc make those points it's like but that's not what capitalism is at its core and again uh i'd rather deal with a greedy fat cat you know who's got competition with monopoly laws you know anti-monopoly laws things like that

than a government because somewhere along the line democrats started to believe what he was arguing against you need the government to enforce the monopoly laws that's true that's true but we're not talking about to the point of that that's different you have a justice system for that that's within reason we're not talking about uh the ability to to chop up i don't parts of i don't believe the united states could be communist that's why one of the reasons i think we're winning i i think we can see communist influence chop up whole parts of society. I don't believe the United States could be communist. That's one of the reasons I think we're winning. I think we can see communist influence, but the backlash that we're seeing in response to a lot of this stuff

is the natural reaction. I don't know about never, but not now. I think never. You think never. Never say never. I mean, well, let's be realistic. Nothing's absolute. For all we know, a plague hits, wipes out most of the population, and then a new civilization emerges, calling itself the United States. Yeah, nothing's absolute. For all we know, like a plague hits, wipes out most of the population, and then a new civilization emerges calling itself the United States. Yeah, there's a lot of circumstances.

I'm saying, based on the current iteration of our government and our culture today, the systems that we have in place in all likelihood will not. What about fascists? See, that's, I never liked when the right always said, you know, Obama's a socialist, he's a fascist.

I think we're all fascists. The system is fascist with the you look at if you look at the soviet union if you look at if you look at communist china we may get civil war but i do not think we would get you know a lot of people ask we'll say like is it a civil war is what a communist revolution and we'll interchange but let me let me break this down and clarify when i'm when i'm talking to my friend uh i was i was uh visiting ukraine covering some stories there and the the apartment where we stayed used to be soviet communist block housing and she explained how the the apartment she was in back in the day the two neighbors hated each other and so one neighbor called the secret police and said they were speaking bad about the party

the next day the apartment was cleared out everything was gone that's it neighbor taken care of that might happen in u.s cities but the the i do not believe that uh if the united states ever went that cut that to that degree of authoritarian it would be ubiquitous outside of cities for example when they did all the coveted lockdowns in most red areas nobody did anything even when they had those rules a lot of them they don't have the means to enforce it and when people are living successfully out in the middle of nowhere they're just going to do whatever they want for the most part and they do there are parts of west virginia where it's like sure you're supposed to get a permit for that and then people build whatever they. And everyone just rolls their eyes because like, what are you going to do?

You're 70 miles from the nearest town. This is one of the things that affected West Virginia when it came to this gun bill that the Democrats wanted to do, where it was like you had to go. All gun transfers must be through FFLs because some guy pointed out that he's in rural West Virginia with like really crappy internet and the nearest FFL is like two or three hours away. If he needs to give a shotgun to his cousin who lives down the road so his cousin can deal with like some raccoon problem or something because of his chickens, he's got to drive three hours with his cousin to go fill out paperwork. That's insane. And so that's that stuff does not work. And so there's a lot of things that are federally restricted that are not like, look, I'm not talking about drug deals.

I'm talking about there are laws pertaining to gun sales and there are people who live in the middle of nowhere who they're not going to tell you, but they don't follow any of those laws and no one knows and no one cares and it will not be enforced. No, no ATF guy is going to drive out to a trailer 300 miles from the nearest town for a guy who lives on 200, 300 acres of worthless property where he just entertains himself and minds his own business and then bought a gun from his neighbor for a couple hundred bucks with a private sale. They're not going to drive out there for that. I mean, they might, but for the most part, it's just off the grid and they can't even find it if they wanted to. When it comes to the overt

communist stuff, there's not enough federal law enforcement to deal with the size of this country if they tried to be a secret police that were going and erasing people for speaking bad about the party in cities no question in cities we already watched people in staten island get arrested because they were saying hey don't bring these non-citizens into our neighborhood yeah if you live in staten island you're a subject okay you're not a citizen you're a subject for those of us that don't live in these big cities well for the time being we still have our freedoms and we are not subjects subject only to the u.s dollar well kind of not even i mean some flight people are trading with all sorts of things especially in the middle of nowhere that's

but uh but my point is this i'm not saying they won't try, but they will not be, the amount of force you would need to maintain full scale authoritarian communist control over a country like this. The issue here is people here are just obstinate. It's hard, but I agree it would be hard, but both China and the Soviet Union were both massive, massive countries. I'm thinking long and both massive massive countries so it's not that it's it's not that i not that i don't think that you're you're right about the fact that it would be tough

but i think that what what happens is you get violent uh coming the government coming down violently with the boot and then it scares people into compliance i don't i but right so the issue is china has a history of dynasties russia has monarchs the united states has fractured colonies struggling to agree with each other who are in revolt first the people who came to the united states from europe were people who are willing to die to get away from whatever was going on in their home country quite literally like you're in the UK and you're like, this sucks. Can't practice my, no freedom of religion. I don't want to be here.

Hey, if you get on this boat and ride for three months with a 20% chance of dying, you might make it to a barren shore. And they were like, sign me up. And I'm like, wow. As an alternative to conflict within your country, escape was an option. They took it. The United States then is bred of people who want to be left alone. And it's it's like I would still is in our identity. You're right. I'm listening to you and I'm thinking, but can't look at how people have changed.

Are we still, you know, not but look at it this way. Take a small cellular culture of angry people who say, don't tread on me, and then put a few drops in a big Petri dish and then watch over a month as that whole thing spreads. And you can see it is of the same culture. There's mutations. There's changes. Some other cells have creeped into the Petri dish, but it still overwhelmingly is this one type. And it just so happens this cell is resistant to a certain virus. That is in our blood as Americans, which is why I would not be surprised if the immigration problem is intentional to destroy.

To bring in as many people as possible who are not of the pioneer don't tread on me ethos. But they're trying to get as many people in this country who are of the ethos of gimme gimme gimme i will take what i want then it's very easy to control people when you give them what they want to quote fast and the furious four when the villain says he says give the people something that they fear losing and you can control them well there you go well there's only one reason why there's only one reason why mayorkas would threaten cubans who are coming 90 miles you know on some uh on on a raft or a boat that he'll threaten opens fire on them right but he'll let anybody pour through the southern border from certain countries that he particularly wants it is a lot of venezuelans though too yeah so

venezuelans it's hard though it's hard to separate venezuelans you know from uh the rest of the pack it is cubans on a boat you know and a lot of a lot of people from honduras and the sentiment among most of these migrants is uh they want they want a better life and i can i get that the american ethos was also very similar but the thing about the people who came here is and there's an overlap which is why i say i respect the people who came here is, and there's an overlap, which is why I say I respect the people who are coming here, because they're willing to risk death. For the most part, they're getting funding. There's stories about NGOs paying their bills. This is very, very different. Big business.

You weren't landing on a barren shore. The colonists were like, we're going to land on a shore. It's going to be hard work. And when winter comes, you're probably going to die then too. Life is rough. The people who are coming here are like, once you get get here you are going to live in luxury compared to where you came from so there's an inversion as to what the economic what the drive is my point ultimately is this nation is born and bred of people who are really angry and want to be left alone to the

point where they like are willing to die to be left alone which means look man you know that the feds raided that fat old dude's house because he was smack talking on the internet and they killed him that's like that doesn't stop if this if the country does go full commie tanky whatever cities will be bad and they will try to enforce thing outside of for enforce things outside of cities but what i think is more likely to happen is that cities will be barred from leaving people yeah that's what they'll have they'll have checkpoints around the cities there's a bunch of sci-fi uh movies and novels that are like this where the people who live in the cities very technologically advanced very comfortable but you're not allowed to leave and the people from outside the cities need special permits to

come into the cities and get permission there's like a trilogy i'm thinking of right now because i've i've thought the same thing that you're just not going to be able to go and they'll try to make it as super cushy and comfortable for you even though it is draconian uh what is the name of these but they're trilogy they wouldn't let the serfs leave the land but there will be my wife's going to kill me for not remembering there will be backwater rural folk who are surviving on their own that's fine and you go to a city and they're going to stop you and be like, do you have your permit? Do you have your social ID?

And there'll be stories. You know what's over that wall? You'll see light shows and stuff. Like the line. They're doing this in Saudi Arabia. The line. That city where they want to build it. Divergent. Divergent. Divergent. Even though that was an experiment.

They didn't know. That's the movie? It's Divergent? divergent divergent divergent but even though that was an experiment but i'm saying yeah right right they didn't know they didn't know that's the movie is divergent it's yeah there's divergent and then there's like two others resurgent yeah so in the first one only applies though to him because they you learn later it really is an experiment to try to weed out bad genes yeah because many many many years ago like in our time um they started to, you know, I don't like the color of my eyes. I think I want blue eyes. So I'm going to pluck out my brown or whatever I have, greenish brown. And I'm going to have blue eyes.

I'm going to change my DNA. Well, we did it so much, we tainted our DNA. So they made this experiment to try to find what is divergence. But inside the cities cities what are they doing to those diversions hunting them and killing them and you can't leave because if you leave first of all everything outside the wall is scorched there's no world left it's barren out there don't even look don't even look yeah it's great and they don't want people bad genetics to get out there because then that'll mix into the population for all you know right now there is an entire galactic federation and human colonies on other planets and the ships that are

flying by are the uh you know how we view north korea yeah they're locked in they're clueless they believe all this nonsense in this i'll go on i'll go on about this so these alien ships we're seeing that they're lying to us about servers it's humans from the other space colonies who are like these poor people living under this despotism who are denied intergalactic technology i'm kidding by the way but you know you never know you never know you like we used to talk about this when uh when i was younger we're teenagers my friends are all smoking weed i didn't smoke but we'd be like it's it's like a question probably every every friend group has asked what if we're north korea what if like we think we're right but really we're the ones locked in and it's like well you're every, every friend group has asked. What if we're North Korea? What if like, we think we're right, but really we're the ones locked in.

And it's like, well, you're only saying that because you don't have a passport. You didn't go to, you didn't travel around yet, but you know, but it's a good question, right?

How do you know? Speaking of Cernovich the other day with the abortion issue, the guy, they were talking about going to hell for not being sufficiently pro-life. And speaking of, speaking of Cernovich, he was just like, how do you know you're not dead yet?

How do you know you're not dead right now? And the guy're not dead right yeah I was like what are you talking you see or you're laughing because I thought it was hilarious I knew for all you know you could be playing rich barris too that's a pundit experience and you're and you're like a 53 year old mirror baby you're a 53 year old Mexican guy who's at the arcade right now yeah I think one of the things that gives me a lot of hope, like almost like at the base of what I am is I've got this hope because American freedom, the way that we've designed this is the best form of government on earth. It's not great.

Yeah. So far and other people in other countries know it and they, they agree. Like when I talked to kids in China, I used to do a chat roulette back when it was cool. And I just roulette onto some Chinese dude or some girl. And we'd talk about it and they'd be like, we in china it's crazy in china you can barely get access to this and i was like they all want it they all like to speak english and like i don't know all is

hyperbolic but so many people want this as their government type dude yeah it's contagious it's contagious and i would say there there is a though, the Chinese started to pull on their population. And that is, and I only know this from having Chinese friends that I met back in college. They were trying to convince them that they were no longer the party of Tiananmen Square. Right? Yeah. We're pragmatists now. We've evolved.

Yeah, we've evolved. And we're pragmatic and we really want to shift but still what did they do to trick them and that's interesting what you're saying i'm agreeing with you they tricked them by saying we're going to make our government more liberal more we're going to open up the markets we want you to have what a lot of people in the west have and of course that was all total nonsense they wanted to exploit the. And if it made their own population more comfortable, then double win, twofer. But they had convinced them that they were a more moderate party. And this is before, this was Dineshaw.

This was Deng? Yeah, Dineshaw. Is that when they changed it to president? They changed chairman to president? Now they call their leader the president? No, that was before, even before. That was before that. Yeah. chairman to president now they call their leader the president and now that was before even before that yeah anyways they i don't think that they the word that they would use in english matters to the chinese they don't call them they don't we did that our press changed that like in chinese

they are whether they actually change the definition of the word they use no no no it's just something that's done in english yeah Yeah, so chairman is the proper word. But I guess because communists were taking over, they were like, just call him a president. Yeah. Because then it sounds democratic. It's better. Yeah.

Yeah, they want you to favor communism favorably. Right. They don't even think that he's a president like he's elected, which he technically is. But I will say communism would be really, really awesome. It would be the greatest thing ever as long as I'm in charge. No, no, no. I'm not saying it would be good for anybody else. Yeah.

Obviously, if I'm in charge, I'm going to be living it up. Yeah, I mean. I'm going to get morbidly obese. I'm going to wear one of those silly little military uniforms and everyone has to worship me like a god. That's basically the mentality of communists. They're all like, I can't wait till communism wins so that i can be in charge yeah so yeah dude so this is a little side you'll be in charge of the rock breaking line in the gulag so i don't know if anyone's here's heard of it but there was there was uh

khrushchev's midnight speech is where he admitted all of stalin's uh atrocities right and that was really the first the beginning of the falling apart of of the soviet union is khrushchev said look stalin did all these terrible things millions of people died etc and in the speech khrushchev is talking about how mark said that you needed to avoid a cult of personality right but yet if you look at all of the socialist uh all the socialist countries in almost all of the social socialist countries in history there's always a country a cult of personality there was there was there's there was uh now in china there was the pol pot in in cambodia every single time there was there was castro there's

chavez there's and there's others that are smaller that i can't think of off the top of my head but they always have a cult of personality the people always focus their attention on one leader and somehow that person embodies what the perfect perfected socialist man of their time is and it is it is always as if it is a you you know. It's a strongman. Yeah, but it's more than just that. It is a strongman, but it's like because it's treated as a religion. The society in and of itself, it treats the ideology as a religion. And so they focus on one person as the pure socialist, the pure person. It's the model. Yeah.

It's like a book, like Little Red Book with Mao, for instance. It's like a feature of it. I wrote about this in my dissertation. It's what concerns me. All right, so real quick, though, just because we mentioned those.

How many military dictators or right-wing dictators can you name from various countries? Augustus Pinochet, was he left-wing? Pinochet, what country? Chile.

I spent time in Chile that's why I know that was there an actual dictator military dictatorship in Brazil who was running it I don't know

me neither Spain Spain's easy right Spain Franco Franco and then there was Batista

Batista was in in Batista was was right wing in Cuba before Fidel Castro. I got to ask this though. What are we really calling right wing?

Are we having the normal... When you say Franco is right wing, that's from a very left wing perspective to call him right wing. That's why I said military dictatorships. That makes it perfect. Huertas. One thing I was going to say is i'm concerned about the cult of personality in american politics big time like i i don't think that trump has any

communist ambitions but the the cult of personality that was so eminent in communist regimes i see it in the united states from time to time the fervence the willingness to go against what you believe because alexandriacasio-Cortez. Obsession with politicians in general. She's so famous. But that's the brilliance of our founding fathers. And even Washington, they wanted to do it to him. And that's within us.

That's human nature. And it's, yeah. It's access to resources. It's your desire to live, to be able to progeny, like to have progeny. It's the desire to propagate oneself. This is part of why I'm so concerned about Obama, Michelle Obama. Because Michelle Obama would inspire that kind of fervent dedication. She's this.

She's someone we need to look up to, et cetera. Now, I'm not saying that she would be a tyrant that would you know be like all right we got to start killing people as like someone like mal or whatever but that kind of adoration we saw people adore barack obama and it would be the exact same thing with michelle obama probably even more so people would adore her but i will say obama is cool whether you agree with him or not the truth is you know just gonna be because i want to give a even more so people would adore her. But I will say, Obama is cool. Whether you agree with him or not, the truth is, you know,

I want to give an example. Hillary Clinton had a more than 60% approval rating when she was the Secretary of State. Favorability. People love her. Then she ran for president, everyone realized, this woman's, you know. Well, what do you mean? She had hot sauce in her purse. Yeah, I mean, go on. It was funny when she announced that the show would have to hide the

show she was on they were like sounds like you're pandering to black people and she goes is it working is it working yeah it's like oh gross so gross you think michelle would you think she'd have to hide so she wouldn't go down in favor of hillary did. She's a nasty woman. She would crash. Americans would vomit when they start to get to know her. They tried to do this. I got kids Nickelodeon every Saturday morning watching early morning cartoons with my kids. They had this woman, Kamala

Harris, aspire to be Kamala Harris. And I'm sitting there with my little daughter watching, you know, like what is that, Miraculous or something. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm not even to myself it's this woman is not who you want to be because does anybody really want is any father want their daughter their little daughter to grow up and emulate kamala harris i hope not is that how you want your daughter to behave no you know so she was supposed to be popular.

This is why Democrats are in a pickle right now. Right. She was supposed to be popular. Nate Silver told them she would be popular. It's because they listened to woke Twitter. Yes. And they were like, so if we go for this, you know, first female VP, woman of color, we're going to be great.

And everyone's like, she is one of the most despicable human beings. But you know what? Tulsi Gabbard annihilated her. Yeah, she was like Buffy the Vampire Slayer versus Dracula when she took a stake to the heart of the demon and said, Kamala Harris imprisoned innocent people, arrested them for pot, and it's just like, and she used them as slave labor, and it's like, wow.

I thought she was gone after that initial debate, and then there she reared her head out of a phoenix. Better analogy is that kamala harris was standing at the podium and uh tulsi gabbard took a bucket of water and splashed on top of her and then kamala went but then that dnc started banging the drums like bum bum bum and kamala came up out of the mug like risen again to be just like just like twisted sludge and they were like we don't have anyone else what do we do it's actually here

let's roll with it they took the sludge after Tulsi Gabbard splashed the water brought it to the lab and hooked electrodes up to it and then cranked the lever and they were like it's all we've got we have to do this all we need is your corporeal form do you think that anybody

could run the democratic ticket and be cool? I'm telling, you know, we pulled Gavin Newsom and he was getting creamed. And that's because people don't really know who he is yet. But I feel like Ron DeSantis, for instance, is about to raise his profile big time. Okay, I'll say it like this. You cannot be a democrat and be cool and you cannot be a traditional republican and be cool i'm sorry yeah like it so the only thing that can come close to being cool is probably some form of anti-establishment trump and like

like moderate trump supporter to a certain degree yeah because you can't maybe like the closest you'll get to it would be an Ian Crossland. Yeah, something like that. Because you can't lie. If you lie, you're not cool in the modern age. Like if a 19 year old finds out you're lying to them, you're off the island. You're done. But to be fair, I mean like Ian is cooler than

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He did better than people thought he was going to do. I think there's obviously some appeal he had at least to the left there. But then he ran the transportation department and proved to be a totally incompetent idiot. Then he got hired and didn't go to work for a year and a half. Right, that's what I'm saying. Adopting a baby. This is why you can't be a Democrat and be cool. It's true. Imagine we're all in high school.

The Democrats are the preppy kids. The Republicans are like somewhat preppy, but they have a few people who like the bad boy wearing the leather jacket and the blue jeans with the suave blonde hair going forward

sitting in the back being like, she's a fat pig over there and they laugh. Now, if you want to win class president, you got to basically

get everybody, but the stodgy, nerdy kids who are teacher's pet are not cool. And so, amongst themselves, they think they're cool.

They're like, dude, did you see that gym? He got straight A's and it's like, wow. And then everyone else is like, who cares, man? He're cool. Yeah. They're like, dude, did you see that, Jim? He got straight A's. And it's like, wow. And then everyone else is like, who cares, man? He can run so fast. So you need a combination of someone who's talented, reasonable, authentic, and doesn't come off as stodgy.

And the Democrats don't have any of that because. They started to with, and sorry to interrupt, but RFK. And then they were just like, no, he's too cool. Get him out of here. Sorry. I mean, he's the coolest Democrat democrat but he's not that cool yeah he's if you want that's why if you watch gavin in the spin room after the debates which uh i only did you know after the fact you could tell that he's trying to be almost like a left-wing version of donald trump he's trying to create

yeah a hate he wants the right to hate him so the left is loyal to him and this is something that i think is a danger with rfk and people may underestimate the hive mind that democrats are if rfk runs against the dnc like this and he gets pegged for instance as someone who is anti-democratic like like he becomes like their enemy, then he won't peel that many off. He has to do it the right way. I think Gavin understands that, and he wants the right to hate him.

Because if the right... He thinks it'll garner him respect, and people will then... Because they hate him, that means I'm good. Yes, yes, exactly. Let's pause real quick and go and look at it. Let's define cool. Oh yeah, he's not cool. No, no, yes let's let's pause exactly let's pause real quick and go and look at it let's define cool oh yeah he's not cool no no let's define i'm literally saying let's let's define exactly what it is we're talking about chill uh so cool actually means too many things uh cool

means like a cool as an adjective describing a person could actually mean like cold it could actually refer to someone calm and collected yeah like right like a razor so but it does it it's so a combination of how we use cool to describe someone it's charismatic confident attractive fashionable their look their look you you look up to them and healthy i think uh i think charisma and a big one and and a desire to emulate. Coolness represents. Desire to emulate. Right.

When someone is cool. Confident but not arrogant. When someone is cool, you are saying they behave, act, and have the things that we look up to and desire for ourselves. Not necessarily have things, but it's a combination of like high high social status i guess uh displaying uh like displaying proper high higher social status of some sort yeah you want them around so you look at this way aoc at a party okay you know whatever she's not the least cool person but she's like pretty close she's nerdy right like democrats are all stodgy nerdy the preppy types republicans oh 10 times so but there's a handful of republicans where you'd be like that are cool cool cool ish it's because the interesting thing

is with the culture war cool is actually fractured right now so So, there's a handful of Republicans who are cool-ish. J.D.'s cool. J.D. Vance. Yeah. I haven't met him. I don't know. In person, he's cool. Yeah, maybe, but you're saying cool as in he's a good guy. No, I mean like he's like an average dude. Yeah, that's not cool.

Average is not cool. No, I don't mean like he's approachable and he does have qualities that you do emulate. We should have him on the show. Phil, a failed musician. Phil not cool. No, I don't mean like, he's approachable and he does have qualities that you do emulate. This is why Hasan called Phil a failed musician. Phil is cool. No, but I mean, he does have qualities

that... Well, no, but look, look, look. What's cool is... Don't worry, man. Five gold records, platinum record, opening for Metallica. But he doesn't talk about it.

That's what's cool. No, but like, Phil is successful and... But like, you've done it. That's what's cool. No, but like, Phil is successful. And, uh, but like, you've done things that everyone wishes they've done. You do talk about it,

but you know. I don't lord it over people. It doesn't mean that I'm better than anyone. But does it mean that Phil is the coolest person in the world? Well, no, like, to varying degrees, cool. But on average,

you would say a rock star is cool. Democrats don't have rock stars. Republicans don't have rock stars. No. Republicans have slightly more than anybody else. That's about it. For some reason, there are things that are cool and things that are not, and it's really weird.

It's hard to define. Sorry, just real quick. To clarify my point, not to single out Phil, rock star is considered to be objectively cool. Successful musician and entertainer is considered to be an objectively cool thing. I would say drugs are objectively cool, but they're not anymore

with pharmaceuticals. Drugs aren't. Smoking is objectively cool looking, but it's not cool to do, but you look at someone smoking and there's always that attitude thing

that goes along with it. But now it's holding a cigarette like this. Yeah, like lighting it and not even smoking it. And looking around like you don't care. There's something about being aloof. I don't smoke, aloof yeah aloof there's an aloofness to it it's it's it's like this is yeah trying to define cool it's a very

difficult thing but like uh having having almost no fear no care you are aggressive you're assertive you are confident you are you lack worry people want that in their lives that's the point i was trying to make the point i was trying to make the point i make is that the the current democrat i guess you could say like the ideal person is very uncool they're always the person at the party that's complaining about something that's good that's saying oh like that's annoying that's oh oh that you're like this oh well that's problematic because of this they're like oh that and that's exactly the opposite of what's wrong that's cool that doesn't care that it's like you know aloof like you said it's like them the democrats okay you're at a house party and then trump shows up with a keg

yeah and it's a high school party he is obviously cool yeah and and and and he's like and he's he's not the football player he's just a big dude he's overweight he's kind of funny and snooty but he brings the keg. And then the Democrats are the ones being like, you're not old enough to drink. We're going to get in trouble. Why are you bringing this here? There is like, you don't have to be here for partying, man. There's nothing less cool than people that are trying to hall monitor.

Yes, I know. I don't understand why the left isn't rejected by more people that want to go just out of hand. Because if you're going to sit there and be like, oh, that guy swore. You shouldn't talk to him. He's got a bad opinion. He said this terrible thing about them. Literally, it's like the hall monitor is never effing cool. The guy that goes and runs to the teacher is never the cool guy.

I want to add, they know they have a cool problem. And I'll give two personal examples. One, I'm not saying anyone in this room are the coolest people in the world or that we're more deserving. No, I'm just saying the Democrats definitely have a cool problem. But I will say, and this is personal. When we did the skate thing in D.C. I brought this story before but i'll get more detail uh i've put out some skate videos uh recently we filmed a few clips we went

skating and we had uh sean hover shout out cool dude uh pro skater and uh we're skating in the barn and uh i'm an old man i don't skate as crazy as i used to i did a handful of tricks they're a little sketchy he filmed them and uh the barr posted them. This is the like the biggest skate brand in the world. They post clips periodically. They posted my clip. They've posted other clips of mine before. And it was because the tricks that I did a little sketchy, but they were particularly advanced tricks. I was really excited. I did something called a fakie ghetto bird and it was kind of sketchy. It's a hard trick. And comments are pissed. They're pissed. When I was in D.C., I announced like, hey, we're going to go skate in D.C. And then these leftists, these super woke people got really, really mad. And this pro skater sent me a link to a forum, a skateboard forum, where people were talking smack about me having been at D.C. Freedom Plaza skating. And so people were like, he's not a real skateboarder anyway.

And one guy said tim pool couldn't even do a pop shove it he's a poser blah blah blah and then they all started trying to entertain this lie that i didn't actually skate why cool factor yep these people who are complaining sucked they always they they they don't they don't have the talent or the merit and no one wants to film what they do because they're not landing anything good yeah i didn't go there and say anything to anybody i hung out my mind my own business but i was doing 540 big flips i was doing like you know uh cancel flips hard flips hard full blade flips minding my own business but probably doing some of the harder tricks at the spot i've been skating for for 24 25 years

so they they go on the internet and lie because they need to maintain tim pool doesn't actually do this thing you know he's he's no no phil is a failed musician hassan says that why because hassan doesn't have any any talent there's no there's nothing he's a guy he's a guy who streams hey more power to him he's the he's the biggest left-wing streamer i respect that there's literally he's ripped yeah he's not the biggest he's just large but the reason he says that Phil has failed and it's it's just like

the worst possible timing a week after opening for Metallica and a few days before getting a fifth gold record you don't say these things but it's because they have to make sure

that there is no charismatic cultural influence coming from the anti-establishment faction at all it's the preppy kids being like don't like trying to

keep the cool kids out of school and and it's uh you know what i got a really good example watch the decemberists video for um um what is it 16 military wives i don't know it's it's not necessarily the most perfect example but the preppy uh the lead singer of the december it's a good song uh plants a slingshot in the locker of the kid he doesn't like and then goes to the principal and says look look he's got a slingshot to get him in trouble like they're trying to keep the influences that threaten them away so if they came out and and i i saw this is really funny when um hasan piker was doing a review of the song we put out will of the people the first song we put out a couple three years ago uh he was he was basically like sort of talking smack and the comments were people being like no this is tim pool oh man i like this

song oh no it's like oh come on they they they have to make sure they tell everybody we're lame we suck we're not good at anything the the view of anybody who votes republican needs to be a cert where a suit wearing stodgy guy who is uncool he's supposed to be the great unifier too that really stinks and you really i think really hit on something that republicans need to pay attention to they need to be painted as the hall monitors the speed keepers yeah it's like look i'm trying to i want to do 75. OK, get in the right lane. That's what Republicans and Republicans are substantially. OK, so here's what I'll say.

I want to do 80. Ninety five percent of the Republicans are substantially less cool than Democrats. Yeah, but there's only if only because there's a handful of Democrats that could moderately claim they're they're somewhat cool. However, there are a few Republicans who are substantially cooler than all of the democrats speaking to your point what gavin newsom is doing by talking about he he actually called california the freedom state and he's spinning it he's spinning it trying to make it seem as if the as if california is a cool is the cool place where you can do what you want, you can live how you want, et cetera, et cetera. Everyone knows that California has the highest taxes in the country or some of the highest taxes in the country.

Everyone knows that California has significant problems when it comes to crime, when it comes to homelessness. Human feces. That's among the problems. But if you listen to the way that Gavin Newsom is trying to reframe people's understanding of California, he is trying to point, he is trying to make people believe that he is the cool candidate. And that's also what Joe Biden. He's American psycho.

I completely agree. He is. He's Bateman. He's definitely Patrick Bateman. But Gen Z likes Bateman. They post the memes all the time that's true but i agree but that but you it's it's speaking to the point that you're making he is he sees the value of being cool and he is trying to make sure that he gets that for he gets that that he gets that into people's head remember when ronda sandis tried to be cool that with the bateman meme and stuff it's like bro listen this is you need you need to understand what makes you cool and ron having that video put out i guess their campaign put it out and then

launched it through a third party or whatever is what they do ron should not be true ron's path to being cool is unique to ron desantis and making memes of glowing eyes is not the way you do no he should have done a clip of him hitting a big bag of of uh just a bag punching bag what makes ron cool is is like just being relaxed and authentic and being himself and owning it so uh the human behavior someone someone in high school right you're you're in high school everyone's sitting around someone farts they get really embarrassed they fart everyone human behavior. Someone in high school, right? You're in high school. Everyone's sitting around. Someone farts.

They get really embarrassed. They fart. Everyone laughs at them for farting and say, oh, you did it. You're gross. And the person blushes and they're like, oh man, I'm so embarrassing.

And they're like, that's so gross. Then there's the class clown who goes, attention class and then stands up and rips one and then starts laughing his ass off owning it. And that's what, more like Trump. Trump's the guy who farts in the room

and then starts laughing he just dropped an MF tonight Trump did? yeah when we were talking he dropped an MF we gotta go to super chats we're way late

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trying to figure it out yeah what would be a good example i know you just super chatted but of what you could get at ten dollars like what would be a good example hit us up let us know well i mean on on yeah we're like we're we are desperately trying but also consider the membership typically was like we do the after show and then we launched the discord as a mean to as a way to bring callers in and then create a communal space but uh this is this is this is this is the tough spot it's like the amount of people that we've added to timcast membership by creating the cost of the discord does not cover the cost of the discord so just so you guys so like a certain amount of people will sign up to be members to watch the after show and support the work we do we then say we're going to launch new shows with the money we

make we're going to open coffee shop we're going to buy we're going to buy ads we're going to fight the culture war one of the things we decided to do was launch the discord we don't make more money for doing in fact it costs us more money to run the discord than we actually make by having it but this is the point you know what i mean like if like if you came to me and asked me like hey what would you buy if you had a million dollars i'd be like i'd win the call i'd used to win the culture war yeah you speed rush your theaters we'd uh build your cultural buildings yeah so like money's for uh i'll say this before i'll say it again what my salary is at timcast is based off of the Tim Pool Morning Show that I produce and host entirely on my own.

Ninety five percent. Granted, the Timcast infrastructure does benefit to a certain degree, like Internet and all that stuff. But then I pay my salary entirely based off of actually less than what is generated from the Tim Pool Daily Show, which is my morning podcast. Everything else that comes from Timcast.com, Timcast Iirl basically just pays for other employees all the cultural projects working on the discord server people and people are asking in the chat they say discord's free what do you mean they're they're confused our our if you are a timcast member we have a members only discord where you can hang out that's that's paid for by the company is there saying the members only discord is paid for we we we we pay for yes i'm like members pay

to sign up to our exclusive members only discord which gives you access to website stuff and and they sync yeah it's it's like free to have discord yeah but in order to be access or have access to our forums and everything like that you have to pay i think people also don't realize that we have staff members who maintain and run and build the things people are asking for every day yeah like we have a full time like brett's full time running the discord 100 yeah and then right so the amount of users that we have does not like okay so before discord we have x users we launch discord we gain a little bit people are like oh this is really interesting i'm really interested in being involved but the cost of running discord is more than the members we added yeah yeah get it that solves the question so it's like we definitely want to promote the discord and make it to the

point where we can invest in expanding everything but again i will stress this the money we get from everything like timcast irl timcast.com memberships we're investing in the discord for you guys to have a communal space we're launching this club so that people will have a physical space to go hang out. I guess I could argue, like, I don't have to do any of that. I could just put the money in my pocket and say, it's my business. It's a private company. I'll go buy a bunch of cars and then buy a private jet or something.

But I'm fairly happy with the money I get from the morning show. And I want to win the culture war. So that's why. I'll give you an example. We put up billboards in Times Square. Why? It's promotion. It's marketing, obviously. But we added Michael Malice and Luke Rutkowski to them because promoting them, in my view,

helps win the culture war. Things like that. I'm thinking of civilization. It's like you can, with money, all you can do is build the theaters and the opera houses. But the only way you can create the great works is with the great people. You need the people. Money doesn't buy the people. No substitute.

So one thing I've i've purchased for myself um with my money is we're building a frog pond a frog a frog tell me more it uh we have a little frog pond and then frogs will swim in it bullfrogs probably they're everywhere all over the place frogs and turtles and sometimes they jump all the way out here and then they're just standing in the grass and i'm like like, let's build a little farm. There's no cultural victory. I'm sorry, but I wanted one. Ponds are awesome.

I got one. I don't know how to stop it. It's called my pool and I can't keep them out. And I feel bad because they die. Yeah. Well, we have the salt one, but they get stuck in the skimmer. Can't get out. I got to read this one.

F.S. Clare says, Tim, the British man who exposed that Canada applauded a Nazi in Parliament warned Thornton was arrested under malinformation. Phil is correct. We are in the Maoist revolution now. Please read this, and people, please wake up. We are in it. So what happened with this guy? Yeah, I heard about this.

So remember how the Canadian Parliament applauded? A literal answer. Yeah. Apparently, they really did start to dispute whether or not, you know, it was as bad as everyone said it was. And I didn't read the story, but I did see something on Twitter that apparently... They arrested the guy? I don't know if they arrested him, but I did see them go, like, criticize. They might have.

They very well might have. What's his name? I wouldn't be surprised. What's the guy's name? I don't know. I just saw it scrolling on the timeline. We don't know where the line is. Tim, I understand what you're saying,

but we don't know the line between that snowball when everything goes slow and then it just becomes... Gradually, then suddenly. Yeah. Mike Oxard says, This really makes me worried for rfk the kennedy curse will be on steroids if he is the reason for biden losing against none other than trump yeah grito says the next civil war here in the united states will be more like the city-state wars of italy where king of bohemia challenged the pope for control of the country and the city-states broke up on different sides.

Whoa, what year was that? This was like 1300s, I believe. Wow, wow. Like Bologna and Medina had a famous battle over the bucket. Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff. I'm playing as the Venetian Patriarchs in Crusader Kings 2 right now. Bo Jiven says, Tim, where is the Culture War podcast,

and why was the FBI whistleblower episode removed? Please be transparent with loyal viewers. If not, ignore the super chat uh it is it was so it was live we took it down and uploaded as a standalone video so it's still there right yes yeah okay it's on youtube yeah it just doesn't appear in the live tab it'll appear in the videos tab because we upload it as a vod that's probably why there was no episode today because our our guest canceled on us on Monday. Our backup guest canceled on us Thursday morning. And then it's like, okay. Like, well, sometimes this happens. But, you know, it is what it is.

And couldn't do anything about it. We should just jam next time. That's too early. No, we had a backup. We have a triple backup plan. But I said no. It's basically like we had a really really really great guest that was very difficult to book and they canceled on us again and uh upset

about that and then we have a backup roster of people who are interested in coming on and we said hey we have the spot opened up and this is monday can you come and then they missed their flight and we're like i'm just not coming and we were like okay and then our our final plan was let's do a cultural episode with our existing friends and guests and it's like i don't think we can pull that off not not we have to plan for it better but the idea was just to get like people you've already known who we hang out with just to come and hang out again and and rogan does this that's why he'll have his buddies on oh yeah those fight companions and stuff but that works because that's his only show for us to take irl friends and guests and do a culture war episode defeats the purpose of what the culture war is so i was like if we could get literally anybody else we could have like two irl

friends with any other person and then have a conversation that's unique that we don't do an IRL but I don't know I don't know who the guests were and I don't need to know but I saw I'm not gonna drag them for destiny Vash and Emma Vigeland were all in DC shooting a video I watched them all talking at a table I would love to have them over and do that here well you know Phil was Phil's pointing out that's because of us right yeah we started we started doing podcasts with Congress and now all of a sudden the left is trying to do it that's what it seems like to me i i imagine people in congress took notice that you know tim pool is up there at capitol hill talking to congress congress people and they started to say oh hey that's a smart idea

especially considering you know it is going into the election season right now you know but good for them i'm glad they did it yeah i wish i would have known i would have uh would have asked destiny if he could have come down because we could have had another oh yeah because that would work for another culture war for sure destiny's good yeah uh i i destiny and vosh i think would be a good conversation are you wild emma i thought was a bit

silly yeah look pretty cool i look at 10 minutes of what they were doing but look pretty nice that they're out actually it would have been epic if we had uh destiny vosh me and phil and did. Actually, it would have been epic if we had Destiny, Vosh, me, and Phil and did a culture war. That would have been lit. Yes. That's too bad.

Yeah, maybe we should reach out to them and see if they want to do it. A couple weeks, yeah. Would you want to do it? I'll do it. Yeah. That'd be great. I think that'd be epic.

Vosh asked me to come on. Vosh one time wanted me to come on to his stream, and I turned him down because I'm not going on Vosh's stream. He's a communist. Because I'm not going to help him monetize. He's a communist. Because I'm not going to help him monetize.

Whatever, man. I get it. I do. Not going to be a good capitalist. Well, yeah. I mean, the thing is, he wants to have the rock star on and I'm sorry, but you don't just get to have the rock star on. That's all there is to it. But this is why they have to call you failed. That's right.

They have to act like they're cooler than everybody. to be fair i will give i will give us on this first as i said i have tremendous respect for the success he has it's not easy it's stupid to me when people are like trump's a moron he's a failure i'm like no he's not he's a billionaire taylor swift is awful she her music sucks i'm like dude nearly it doesn't she's rich you're not and hasan clearly is successful and has looked at by many people as being a cool dude. That's totally fine. I respect that. But to his credit, a component of being that charismatic figure is controlling the narrative

around who is cool and who is not. So for Hassan to have a massive audience, act like a tough guy and say he's cool. That's a component. Trump is a tough guy who pushes people around it's it's part of cool factor yeah it's hard it's a hard thing to define you know i don't like bully cool i'm sorry cool factor it's not the the epitome of it success really is it actually the the cool kids that were bullies made me hate humanity so i've got a you got to be careful because sometimes but they're different than somebody like a don Trump is like, I mean, people have to understand.

A lot of people call him a bully, but when you're him and you're constantly under attack and you're constantly needing to defend yourself, it can't be easy to be Donald Trump. You're right, but as soon as someone's nice to Trump, he's nice to them. That's his currency. That really is his currency. Jason Dixon says, Tim, none of the after shows hosts and shows are paid. them you know as much as that's his currency yeah that really is his currency jason great listener jason dixon says tim none of the after shows hosts and shows are paid full volunteers we did it for free we do it for culture this is fact fact true and correct what the members are building in the

member discord is completely organic and from them based on the goodness of their hearts and what they want to do and what they think we need to do my point about uh the cost of running discord is basically just the infrastructure staff the the you know brett runs it then we have it people behind the scenes for maintaining there's code involved in the website integration and things like that so there is a greater cost to it that being said guys i am i am paying attention to what's going on in the discord server and uh i'll just leave it at that like i certainly think there's an opportunity for something beyond just what we have and a way to do something more for the shows that are already in existence on the TimCast members only. There's no reason why they shouldn't just be filmed. So we'll talk about it. When we get the club set up, I'm thinking it would be really cool to actually get equipment, invest in it, and provide it for the member community after shows.

It would be cool. And then actually have the videos available alongside the shows on Discord and just film it and have them for everybody. That would be sweet. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, please smash the like button would you kindly and subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com become a member next week we are in miami uh this is going to be epic luke will be on all week for the show at a special studio location where we will be filming friday's show will be an exclusive members only live event with matt gates patrick bett david

james o'keefe and a ton of people are going to be there the guest list of like wild yeah i think it's like 20 plus people that you are you guys know and love and um one of the reasons why i said let's just we're gonna do it members only the obvious guys we really do try to build memberships it's what runs the company so if there's an opportunity and we're doing an event and it's like, well, if we're selling tickets to it, giving it away for free online defeats the purpose of selling tickets. We want it. We want to build up memberships. But the big question that came up was, hey, someone could sit in the front row and scream bad things. And we're like, well, then we're going to have to figure that one out audio wise. And it's like, well,'t and it's like that's a fair point maybe we should just take it off youtube and then i'm like well if we just do it members only we can literally go nuts we like actually go nuts people can talk about whatever they want to talk about it's us yeah no i'm just saying we can i'm not saying i'm gonna i'm not i'm not saying i'm gonna get naked on friday i'm not saying we don't have

to worry we don't have to worry so much we're gonna have the clips up the full podcast will be available on apple and spotify and all of that for the show itself but it means that uh we're gonna have all the time in the world for the venue which means there's going to be a pre after show uh with the special guests we'll probably have people jump up on stage periodically and just go nuts and just have a really good time. So I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there and become a member at Timcast. Go to Timcast.com, click join us. We're going to have two YouTube videos put up next week explaining how to sign up, one on Monday and then one on Friday, just before the show, for those that want to watch it. You can follow the show at Timcast IRL. You can follow me personally at

Timcast. Rich, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah, people can just go ahead and follow me if they want to check out the polls we're going to do. We're going to find out who RFK hurts, for sure. Real soon. They can do that at peoplespundent.locals.com. That's a central hub, Tim. That's the only place you've got to go. You'll see it all from there. I am Phil

that Remains on Twix. I'm Phil that Remains Official on Instagram. The band is All That Remains. You can follow us on spotify apple music amazon music youtube pandora you know the internet i'm ian cross and you got follow me on the internet i will see you next week in florida i'm super pumped rich great energy man good to see you again dude man always a pleasure thanks for having me all the best brother oh yeah surge Oh, yeah. Serge. Yeah, I'm excited to be in Miami. It's going to be fun. Hit me up on Twix. I feel like

I'm close to another thousand people, which is cool. Also, follow me on Instagram. It'd be cool to get more on there. It's 82 in Miami. Yeah, it's going to be sweet. I can't wait for Miami. Got all this weird, like, overcast West Virginia weather. Anyways. All right, everybody. Thanks for hanging out.

And the next time we see you, we'll be in Miami.