Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #873 Matt Gaetz Files To REMOVE Kevin McCarthy After BACKROOM Deal w/Dave Rubin

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Dave Rubin to discuss Matt Gaetz pushing to remove Kevin McCarthy as speaker of the house, Trump slamming the business fraud charges against him, Jamal Bowman calling the ...GOP "Nazis" after he was caught pulling a fire alarm in congress, and a Philadelphia journalist found shot dead in his home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:05 And it's an insult to everybody who believes that we should be fixing the problems of the corruption in Congress and not just layering them on. But this is basically what's happening. Matt Gaetz is trying to get and trying to bring about an end to the omnibus spending bills where they just put 5,000 pages. We're all spending the money. We're buying it all. Vote yes or don't. He wants to bring on single subject spending. Kevin McCarthy is basically playing games.
Starting point is 00:01:27 They're doing what all members of Congress always do, where they basically say, well, we'll just we'll keep funding it the way it is. And we'll we'll deal with these things later. In response to Matt Gaetz threatening to remove Kevin McCarthy, a speaker of the House or to file, they're trying to remove Matt Gaetz. So it's getting pretty wild. And we'll see how this one plays out. Donald Trump was in court today for his lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:01:48 He called the judge a rogue. And we'll talk about that. Apparently, they've dropped some of the claims against him. But it is going to be fun. We are down here in Miami. So talking about Mar-a-Lago Trump and how they're lying about the value of his properties will be a blast. And then, of course, we've got Jamal Bowman over the weekend. He pulled a fire alarm. and then he called everybody Nazis.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Then he said, no, I didn't call them Nazis. You can't call people Nazis. And then someone found a tweet where he called Michael Knowles a Nazi. This is going to be very, very interesting. We've got a bunch more stories. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com and click TimCast IRL X Miami. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:03:06 Share the show right now. Take that URL. Post it everywhere if you really do like what we do. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, it is an honor. We have Dave Rubin. Mr. Florida Man. Mr. Florida Man. Mr. Florida Man.
Starting point is 00:03:18 That's right. Welcome to the free state of Florida, Tim. How do you feel? It's wet. It's wet and it's good. That's what she said you look moist and dewy from our humidity and our freedom it actually brings out the uh the essence of the the freedom is palpable it's it's pretty sweet man i mean i get it it's good in west
Starting point is 00:03:36 virginia i get it but come on it does not get better than this i disagree what could possibly be better what could possibly be better than this place? Oh man, the mountains. We don't have mountains here. That is the one thing that I do concede on the Florida thing. We're pretty flat still. I look out my window, I see mountains. Mountains aren't bad. We got freedom. We got water.
Starting point is 00:03:58 We got freedom. We got beaches. I'll give you the beaches and a little bit more freedom than we have. West Virginia's doing pretty good, though. We're fighting the good fight. No, you guys are doing all right. I got no problem with West Virginia, but I'm glad to see you here in the free state of Florida. This is going to be a blast.
Starting point is 00:04:13 It's going to be a good week, so thanks for coming, man. Yeah, it's good. And the other Florida man is here. Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings. I am the Polish Florida man, and it is good to be back. The Democrats can't tell the difference between a doorknob and a fire alarm while the Republicans are tearing each other to shreds. And you love to see it. You know the deal. If you like the shirt that I'm wearing right now with Trump Tupac, you could get it on the bestpoliticalshirts.com. And since last being
Starting point is 00:04:39 here, I got fully demonetized. So I launched a new business that is a vitamin health store on wearechange.shop. I've been able to help a lot of people check that out. Ian, you look like you're also on a little personal health journey there. You have a little sparkle in your eyes that you didn't before. Thanks for noticing, bro. How are you doing, man? I feel great, man. Give us a health update. I gained about 20 pounds over the process of the last two months, three, two and a half months or something, muscle and fat. I feel great. I smell different. I stopped wearing deodorant. There you go. That's a new way to do it. there you go that's a new kind of deodorant muscle and fat as opposed to what water what else is there oh yeah water bones bones and skin yeah bones bones got it's great my bones are huge yeah you gain that's good you gain water weights nuts you look great you look
Starting point is 00:05:20 i'm serious i got your transformation is something that could inspire a lot of people. I see it. I thank you for doing it. Awesome. Well, I'm glad you noticed. I got a question for the Florida man before we get going too far. You know, like when a fish is in water, it's swimming. It doesn't know it's in water.
Starting point is 00:05:34 It's just there. When you're in Florida, do you know you're the Florida man? Oh, I'm aware of it. Absolutely. It's in your veins. It's genetic. It's like autism. You can't get rid of it. It's here.
Starting point is 00:05:44 When you're in Florida, you are 100% Florida florida man you the vibe is here right you got to remember i lived in la before this so i was in enemy territory and especially during covid i'd be walking my dog without a mask on and people would be yelling at me and yelling at my dog where here i walk around and i have my florida hat and i keep a picture of me and desantis on my phone in case i get challenged by anybody. Like, oh, you're the new guy from Cali because they think you're a communist or something. Like, don't worry, I'm with this guy.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And it's just like everyone here is happy, functional. Everything's working here. There's no crime. It's all good. So you're always aware. There's business, less taxes. You have firearms that you could actually keep on you and defend yourself if you get attacked
Starting point is 00:06:22 without going to jail for the rest of your life, which is a big peace of mind for a lot of individuals we and we have a story too that we shoot we we have a yeah and ron said that yeah yeah we have we have a story i might we might we might get to that i really i talked about quite a bit earlier it was the uh the prank prankster they call him in virginia where he's getting in people's faces freaking him out and then he got shot and they lock up they lock up the victim who was shooting in self-defense. The jury said it was self-defense. They still put him in jail. So we'll talk about this stuff, but let's jump into the first story.
Starting point is 00:06:50 We got big news, ladies and gentlemen, from The Washington Post. Check it out. Matt Gaetz files motion to oust Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker. Matt Gaetz introduced a resolution Monday evening to remove Kevin McCarthy from his seat, triggering an expected intraparty clash and setting up a showdown for the House to decide whether to depose McCarthy likely within 48 hours. Gates and a handful of hard right Republicans have repeatedly threatened to go after McCarthy's speakership if he relied on Democratic votes to pass any spending legislation, which happened Saturday after McCarthy could not get a majority of Republicans to support
Starting point is 00:07:23 various proposals to fund the government with only GOP votes. Using a motion to vacate, a single person can force the House to consider removing the Speaker. McCarthy agreed to lowering the threshold to bring in the motion to win over enough support to become Speaker in January. This one's going to be really interesting. McCarthy's basically a Democrat at this point. If he's now teaming up with Democrats for his spending bills and working against Republicans, the question, though, is will Democrats now, seeing an opportunity, team up with Matt Gaetz to remove Kevin McCarthy? Do you guys see what's going on Twitter right now?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Kevin McCarthy just tweeted, quote, bring it on. Matt Gaetz retweeted him just a couple minutes ago and said, just did. So the drama is unfolding on Twitter in real time as this video is happening right now. And it's very interesting to see what Matt Gaetz is doing here, because I think, you know, the long term strategy for Matt here is to probably become the next governor of this very beautiful, amazing state after Ron DeSantis leaves office in a few years. And if he's going to leave in a fury of fireworks and just public outrages and storms, this is the way to do it. This is the way to get your name out there. And in our current kind of political sphere where outrage sells and controversy really is the lead, this is the way to get everyone's attention. And I think he's doing a good job at it, as of course, this is an important issue. everyone's attention and i think he's doing a good job at it as of course this is an important issue he's making an important stand even though it is republicans fighting each other which they usually do anyway i mean we all knew this was going to happen right it took
Starting point is 00:08:52 mccarthy what 15 votes to get the speakership in the first place so like it was all leading to this at some point i think most of us and probably most of your viewers are with with uh gates in spirit of course like enough of the nonsense spending enough of giving all the money away to ukraine and everything else like we take care of our border but i hate to tell matt gates even if this is just because he wants to be governor the house always wins so that's how this operates in washington right like mccarthy will stick around most likely and even if he doesn't it's not going to be gates as speaker of the house and the machine just finds a way you got to give the devil his due we may not like it i certainly don't like it
Starting point is 00:09:30 i don't think any of you guys like it but it finds a way that's why we always get into these shutdowns frankly i would be for the government shutting down right now and not coming back for a couple years that would be fine with me but that's not what's going to happen right they extend it for 45 days and 45 days from now we'll all be pissed about something else and something else will happen. But don't worry, Zelensky will get his cash. Yep, and the Republicans will bend over
Starting point is 00:09:52 and bend the knee and take whatever globalist policy that they tell them to take and they'll implement it without even any kind of doubt. Kevin McCarthy has been a lot different in his kind of reign ever since Tucker Carlson left Fox News. And I think really
Starting point is 00:10:06 there's something to note here when it came to Tucker Carlson and Fox News calling him out, that whole entire pressure on him is totally gone. And since then, we have seen a totally different Kevin McCarthy that really has been not in favor of the people and ruling in a way that hasn't been benefiting anyone but the ruling elites. Isn't there something super weird happening here? Because Trump backed McCarthy. Gates is a Trump guy. I saw the base guys going after Gates today because Trump backed McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So it really creates some really strange bedfellows. It does. The arrows start going in some really weird ways. And then did you see Trump today after after the hearing that he did in uh where was that that was in new york right after the hearing he basically was like well i'm not going to go after mccarthy because he says nice things about me which is that's what everyone hates about trump but i get it i get it right he can say anything i think they'll always love him matt uh this this this was during the fight for the speakership in the house trump was for mccarthy Matt said no. And Matt said he didn't care. I think this shows Matt's principled.
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Starting point is 00:12:01 iGaming Ontario. I have tremendous respect for the work that he's doing. It's about time somebody did it. But to be completely honest, I'll just, I'll soften a bit of what you said, Dave. You're right. I mean, the machine finds a way. You've got all these snakes and Matt's trying his best. I posted a picture of Sisyphus when he said, I'm trying to change DC.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And I'm not, you know, people got mad. They were like, what's the alternative? I'm like, I'm not saying he shouldn't do it. I'm glad he's doing it, but he's pushing a boulder uphill and it is a long way uphill i'm glad i'm glad he's doing what he's doing he's one of the most effective one of the best politicians we have if you can even say a politician is good but he's pushing a boulder uphill well philosophically what would you say i mean i think if mccarthy was sitting here he would say hey there's this giant swamp there's this giant system i mean i've interviewed him and talked about this i think he would say you can maybe get some incremental things like the machine is so the swamp and the deep state it's so there's
Starting point is 00:12:51 so much there and they can almost never get anything done right like the democrats are just pure evil and the republicans are kind of just a little less evil so i think mccarthy's argument would be in essence it would be hey maybe we can do a little something, spend a little bit less or get a little money moved to the border or something. And he I think that's really what he's saying right now. That would be a win where basically what you're saying is Gates is just trying. He's throwing the Hail Mary knowing there is no flying F chance that it's going to work. But it is good if you're actually auditioning for another job. I don't say, by the way, I don't think it's necessarily just governor.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I think he may just want a spot on network TV. I don't think he wants to be governor. I would imagine that he probably, if there was future ambitions, Senate makes more sense. Governor brings him to the state where he's in D.C. right now, right? So that's a shift you wouldn't want to take, right? Well, if he likes being in Florida, I mean, he is a Florida guy. If he likes being in Florida, why not come home to Florida? I mean, D.C. is an absolute disgusting cesspool of scum and villainy.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But I wouldn't immediately say it's just about a job prospect. They're trying to remove him. They're threatening to expel Matt Gaetz for what he's doing. I wonder if this is why Thomas Massey tweeted out this like yesterday. I fear this is the quote tweet from Thomas Massey. I fear the attempted attempting to vacate Speaker McCarthy. This juncture is a bad idea that will lead to worse outcomes for conservatives. Signed the only still serving co-author and co-sponsor of the motion to vacate Speaker Boehner. So he went through this before. Apparently... Didn't he back McCarthy anyway?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Thomas Massey? I don't know. Pretty sure he did. Well, I think they did at the end, but they did him and Chip Roy ended up getting a bunch of concessions that I think now Gates is saying well, you guys aren't actually getting the concessions at him. But Massey, to me, Massey is the most libertarian, anti-government guy we have in government.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Rand Paul's right there too, but in the House. And it's like, if that's what he's saying there's probably he knows something behind the scenes i wonder if it's he's afraid of what's happening to gates that they're going to now turn on gates and he's like we don't need inter-party conflict right now because the democratic party is trouncing intraparty intraparty no right you don't need gates getting any friendlier with aoc which every now and again they kind of dig each other but i i'll appreciate i mean they were trying to stop insider trading in congress okay i'll take it yeah take our wins where we can yeah yeah otherwise what they that kevin mccarthy has a backroom deal to get funding for ukraine i'm i i i i cannot believe that if you i'd be willing to bet if you went and just talked to
Starting point is 00:15:20 random people on the street should we spend money on ukraine they're going to say no mostly a lot of people probably say yes you know of course and depending on which city you go to they're going to have flags everywhere they'll say yes but i think a genuine random sampling of a million people in this country find 70 80 90 saying no why would we do that but of course congress will do it why because congress is not beholden to american people they're beholden to lobbyists hey as m as Mitch McConnell said, the number one job of the Republican Party is to fund the Ukraine war, the war that we're also not in.
Starting point is 00:15:50 At some point, do you think if you're giving hundreds of billions of dollars to fund a war, you're in a war? Yeah. Would that be a technical way you'd say you're in a war? Yes, I agree. You know, like eventually if you're funding everything and also, by the way, pushing the guy with nukes
Starting point is 00:16:03 a little closer to World War III, I mean, which really is what they're doing right like at the end of the day you could say russia's losing and losing and losing which they're not by the way but you could say that and at the end of the day when the guy when the shit is about to hit the fan he has nukes so who really is winning and he's and we're talking about his doorstep yeah so it's just they've not given any legitimate reason to us as to why we're involved in ukraine they've not even tried to now kevin mccarthy goes and makes a back room deal with democrats ignoring the republicans who he's supposed to be working with to get funding for ukraine wasn't it uh am i wrong about this they they put together a clean bill but it
Starting point is 00:16:41 didn't have ukraine spending in it and they're like, oh, Democrats were like, we refuse. I mean, the fact that the Democrats have become so clearly the war party is just such a perfect example of when I say that the machine always stays ahead. That's how it always stays ahead, because somehow the parties flip in front of your eyes. The liberals become conservatives and the conservatives become liberals. The machine figures out a way to just exist and continue. Do you think the people are voting because they're afraid of putin or because they're just bought oh you mean
Starting point is 00:17:10 our congressman i don't think our congressmen are afraid of putin like maybe putin's got some dish on who's like banging who and who's doing coke and hookers and all that stuff but i think it's they they figure one way or another they get these people basically to betray the united states and then we you also have to remember guys like we have such a nation of people who are not paying attention in any way whatsoever because they're addicted to pills or porn or whatever, or just distracted or don't care, or they're scrolling this thing all day or playing video games all day, that it's just easy to just keep the machine in operation. It's actually not that difficult. We can all talk about it, but it's not that difficult
Starting point is 00:17:45 to keep a bunch of people stupid. But I do think we are seeing a generational shift. A lot of it has to do with Ron Paul. That's how you end up with people like Matt Gaetz. Because where Ron Paul was, Dr. No, he's in Congress. He's saying, no, no, no. Why are we doing this?
Starting point is 00:17:59 Very few people cared. Then he runs 2008, creates a movement on the internet. A lot of young people grew up understanding and hearing what he had to say. And a lot of these young people shouldn't have heard it at all if the machine had its way. So I do think there's a strong possibility, and the culture war is a component of this, what the quote unquote right is in the culture war is basically people who are inspired by the ideas of freedom, liberty, individuality, etc. And now you're looking at a deep state, a bureaucratic state,
Starting point is 00:18:27 desperate to stop a freedom movement of some sort. To varying degrees. It's pretty clear that people aren't being represented in Congress. People are disenfranchised. People are pissed off. The price of everything is going up. And these politicians are getting richer and richer every single year that they're in public office
Starting point is 00:18:42 when they're supposed to be taking political salaries. But they're millionaires somehow. How did that happen? Because they're selling you out. They're selling your country out. And you were right, Tim, especially about Ron Paul. He started, of course, the original Tea Party. The original Tea Party was hijacked, but the original Tea Party sowed the seeds for Occupy Wall Street. Occupy Wall Street brought a lot of people together. Then, of course, it was also co-opted. But after Occupy Wall Street, we saw a huge shift, especially in the media narratives, especially in the divide and conquer kind of arena. And now we're really reaching a point where people are like, I'm sick of politics. I hate politicians. None of these people represent me. The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. The Democrats
Starting point is 00:19:23 are just as bad as the Republicans. It's a un a unit party screwing you over. And I think a lot of people are realizing it. And that's why Kevin McCarthy, I think, is more popular than ever. And as soon as... Kevin McCarthy or Matt Gaetz? Sorry, excuse me. Matt Gaetz is more popular than ever. They both are, to be honest. I apologize for that. But I got the tweets pulled up here, and that's why I'm mixing words here. But Matt Gaetz is more popular than ever for a reason. And there's a reason we reacted to this news the way we did, because it does kind of represent the sentiment of people just being disenfranchised and pissed off.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I think one other thing related to Gaetz, putting aside governor or whether he wants a TV host, someone is going to have to be the heir apparent to MAGA at some point. Yeah. Right. Whether it's because of indictments or Trump literally falls down the stairs or just goes out into the sunset or falls up the stairs. Right. Exactly. But whatever whatever that thing is, when Trump is no longer involved in this whole thing, someone has to take that thing. And it seems like Gates is basically saying, hey, I'll be the guy to do that again. It's kind of weird
Starting point is 00:20:18 because Trump backed McCarthy and refuses to say anything bad about him. And then the Trump people were going after Gates today. And that that's what also makes politics so infuriating. Right. But Trump's just the avatar of the anger he's captured. So somebody's hat. So take the anger. So when Trump backs Fauci, when Trump backs McCarthy, there's a lot of people who are like, I still think Trump's the best bet. But it means that that it is not about about trump this is the this is the this is the thing that people didn't realize i should say democrats didn't realize 2016 on they kept saying trump is doing this trump is causing this division like no no no no trump is not the cause of he is a symptom of the people in this country are angry and like michael it was a michael moore he said
Starting point is 00:20:59 donald trump is the human molotov cocktail that they're going to launch into the system and it'll feel good. If you stop there, his statement was fantastic. Coming from a human keg. But he then goes on to say for a few days or a few weeks, but then they'll realize and they didn't realize. No, he was wrong. The people chose Donald Trump because he was just an avatar representing their anger. That means as time goes on, it may not be Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:21:24 It could it could be a lot of different people. So long as you're true to what the point is and the point is you know we want accountability in government well there was make america great was really because you're talking about there's angry maga and then there's like functional maga and like i'm afraid that if it's the anger that got him elected that we'll see another anger representative in the future maybe not even from maga and that things could get really bad well look you can kill you can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea, right? Very for vendetta. And that's the idea. And I think Gates kind of sees that, that the Trump thing will not exist forever.
Starting point is 00:21:52 How old is Trump? He's 79, 78? 78. 78, right? He's no spring chicken again. So regardless of where this ends out, whether he's president again or anything, the man will not exist forever. So Gates is seeing the writing on the wall.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I mean, Gates, I like him a lot too, but he is a politician. So he's in again or anything, the man will not exist forever. So Gates is seeing the writing on the wall. I mean, Gates, I like him a lot too, but like he is a politician. So he's in the system too. He's not in as a politician right now to not be a politician after, right? He's in the politician to figure out what his next steps are. And if he sees, wow, there's a movement
Starting point is 00:22:17 that the leader's kind of getting old and someone's got to take over, like he's kind of doing what's right for him. I'm not even begrudging him that. I think it's just worth noting. Victor Hugo once said, nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And I think we're in that particular time where there are multiple political paradigm shifts that are absolutely huge that we're living through right now. It's very exciting, but also it's also
Starting point is 00:22:40 very dangerous at the time, because as Ian mentioned, it could go either way. Yeah, you could. We got to focus the mega laser on something creative, like graphene like Take a shot because if if we don't focus the mega laser The Chinese Communist Party will focus it or the World Economic Forum will focus it and get people to fight each other and I feel
Starting point is 00:22:56 Like that's what's been happening for five years Is that it pieces people are obviously the world is attempting to manipulate our government and our people and they are and I think it's more So, you know you have that meme where it's they're trying to make us fight amongst ourselves so that we don't actually challenge the system and the corrupt. And half true, that meme goes back to Occupy Wall Street, where you got a bunch of people saying the 99 percent and, you know, the big banks screwed us over. And there's a rich guy in his office on the phone. He says, introduce identity politics. What I see is they tried to figure out a way. How do you make it so that it's no longer about the wealthy and the poor, but you make it so that the poor people fight each other?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Identity politics. You get a bunch of people on the left to start attacking people based on their race. Of course, the right will defend themselves. Who wouldn't defend when they're being attacked? namely when they go after like white people and say white males and all that stuff. And this creates division. So it's funny to me when we then see leftists pushing the meme that they're making making us fight amongst ourselves when it's like, yeah, there's America, a constitutional republic that has values, norms and rights. And then there's the weird culty Marxist garbage you're introducing. You are the psyop. What they're doing is the manipulation.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah, they're the pawns in the game. They're the useful idiots and they don't realize it. All the kids that were out there burning down their neighborhoods and burning down the pep boys and the target, like they were doing it to themselves and not even realizing it. But, you know, when you talk about the uniparty as one Florida guy to another. Florida man. Florida man to another. Florida man. This place that we live in,
Starting point is 00:24:30 this is pretty freaking functional. There is nothing going on here unless you guys can think of something that I don't know about that is not right in this state in terms of what a functional government can do. Well, hold on. I was driving to get dinner.
Starting point is 00:24:43 What do you got? A gator jumped out of a river? Snap the beanie? Whatever. There was like four inches of water in the street, which proves climate change. Absolutely. We're working on climate change. We're very close to the water here, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:55 So it's a little more complex. We're going to make Ian eat the bugs, and then climate change is going to be over. It's going to be fine. You are sarcastically illustrating my point. We can't even find- It was raining today. Right. It rained a little today, right?
Starting point is 00:25:06 You know, people will be like, well, there's a lot of traffic in the Miami area now. Well, yes, we did get about 300,000 new people here and we're building incredibly fast. So I totally agree with you on the uniparty thing and that the Republicans just blow and suck and all of those things. But in micro places in different states,
Starting point is 00:25:22 and that's the beauty of federalism, it's working. Like this place is hyper-functional, has brought in a million people. Everyone's flourishing. We have some issues. There's some issues around insurance, right? Home insurance, because we have two massive, we had a category five hurricane, Ian,
Starting point is 00:25:37 a year ago, two days. And we had another one, Idalia, not too long ago. So there's some like human issues, but in terms of the functioning of the state and law and order and the you loot, we shoot thing, you know that Hurricane Ian demolished Southwest Florida last year, demolished it. There was no looting, zero looting.
Starting point is 00:25:57 That literally would not have happened in the other state. Well, there was a little skirmish outside of the Miami Heat stadium, but then cops came in right away and then they booked people for blocking traffic immediately But then cops came in right away and then they booked people for blocking traffic immediately. Again, illustrating my point.
Starting point is 00:26:09 There was a skirmish. Or I love it when people, and I saw a lot of MAGA people doing this because they're always going after Florida right now. When it's Miami, you know, it's spring break and in Miami Beach, they get thousands of people from other places and they get real drunk at night
Starting point is 00:26:21 and they brawl in the streets. And it happened for like two nights. And I saw all these people going after DeSantis. First off, the governor is not in charge of what happens on every street in every city, every moment. But I tweeted something like, you guys do know that if this lasts another day, Fort Lauderdale, by the way,
Starting point is 00:26:37 and Miami Beach Democrat mayors, some of the few Democrat mayors in the entire state, you know he's gonna get involved. And then two days later, the National Guard was there. Like, that's what I'm saying. place while the while the dc version of the uniparty is deeply corrupt and backwards some places are doing it right and it's not just florida i think this is the best example of it i'm a little biased but i do believe florida is the alamo it is the the last free kind of standing place in america that's standing up for a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:01 individual liberties a lot of rights a lot of you know, just the basic principle of you being able to keep your money. That's a very important principle that a lot of people don't have in California and in New York. And that's why I think I kind of want to go against your point, Tim, a little bit. I do think a governor is more powerful than a senator on a local level, because I do believe it wasn't more powerful. I'm saying when you were talking about Gates, you were saying, I don't think he wants to be a governor. Gates is in D.C. I think he wants to be a senator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah. You can have a lot of power in Florida or you can have a little bitty power in D.C., but D.C. is the whole country. I would argue a governor is way more important than a senator, mainly because of just how much involved they are in everyday life, just how much they can make a difference when it comes to carrying firearms, just how much they can make a difference when it comes to tax policy. And I truly do believe Matt Gaetz, I think, would be a better governor than a senator. And I would hope he becomes the next governor of Florida. What I'm saying is when you're a senator or member of Congress, you can actually have an impact on immigration and war. When you're a governor, you can't deport people.
Starting point is 00:28:05 You don't have the authority. And you can only voice your opinion. Well, we did send a whole bunch of people to Martha's Vineyard. Which keeps them in the country. So I do appreciate the move because it's a sanctuary city. They say, right.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But the issue is, while it does create, I suppose, notice of the issue, creates awareness. Yeah, you can't solve the macro issue. All it's doing though is bringing the people in and then sending them deeper into the country. You know what a governor does do very is very important is how they handle natural disasters.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I was going to ask you guys talked about the hurricane a little bit and the you loot we shoot message right off the bat curbed it. So like I think a lot of our political instability might come from natural disasters. We might think oh it's about people and money but like if there's a global flood we're going to get tens of billions or millions of people are going to flood. We've already seen it on the southern border.
Starting point is 00:28:52 So I think that's strong. Look, listen, listen. Yes, if there are disasters and things like that in other parts of the world. But the issue is if literally nothing happens anywhere else in the world and we keep making the country better, they will keep saying, I want your stuff. Yeah. But anyway, but the real point is natural disasters. I think it's very important how we handle those things. And you can even call COVID a natural disaster, even if it was built by humans.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That reacted as if it was a natural plague. Look, you know how well DeSantis handled the hurricanes because they couldn't get him on anything. Like the media is waiting for the guy to literally just step in the wrong puddle or anything else. And Idalia, there was not, I did not see one article that he failed on anything. You know, in during Hurricane Ian, the Sanibel Causeway, it's a three mile bridge that they built from Fort Myers to the islands over there. It was blown apart in five different spots. It would have taken the federal government or any other state government literally five to 10 years to rebuild. They had cars going over that thing in three weeks. I went over it and you could not even tell the sections that were new versus the
Starting point is 00:29:54 sections that were old because he basically walked, went there and said, Hey, we're going to get the best engineers here. We're cutting all the red tape, build this freaking thing. And they do it. And that's, so we we don't sometimes I think the thing that DeSantis suffers from, actually, is that we don't know what to do with a competent governor or competent, a competent politician. We just we just don't know what to do. It's like, well, we're doing everything right. Hot damn. Let's talk about this. We have a story about Donald Trump from Politico. The crime is against me. Trump slams business fraud trial. Apparently before the trial, he said that the judge was a rogue and the prosecutor was racist. I don't know what he meant by that. Is it because she's black
Starting point is 00:30:31 and he's white or something? But either way, what we're seeing from this trial is absolutely bonkers. It's now advancing. I guess, Ian, you were saying something that they've dropped some of the claims against Trump. That's what Trump said at a press conference right after he walked out of the courtroom. He and his lawyers started talking, said that because of the statute of limitations,
Starting point is 00:30:48 they dropped or they they're no longer pursuing like 80 percent of the case. And I think that's a rough estimate. I think he made those comments inside of a Wendy's when he was screaming.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I think he went to Wendy's right after the court proceedings and did another PR where he was talking about how the AG was racist. Is that like Giuliani going to the Four Seasons,
Starting point is 00:31:06 but it was the Four Seasons that was like a garage or something? No, no, no. He usually does these. And he's really good at this. He does these kind of PR stunts right after a lot of these court proceedings where he goes in public places and public restaurants and buys everyone food. And he buys Goodwill
Starting point is 00:31:22 and essentially has that. A lot of times he walks on that bill, by the way. Right. That's happened multiple times. So I want to address this because we've got some Florida men here. You know, the judge said that Mar-a-Lago is worth around $18 to $20 million. And this is 17 and a half acres of beach to beach Palm Beach property. Now, I don't know what kind of place you're living in, Dave.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. However, whatever you must have bought living down here, it's got to be worth, based on the judge's estimate, 50 bucks, 100 bucks, something like that. So it's completely. And so let me just say clearly, because I've hit Trump a lot lately and I got a lot of mag angry. I mean, all of these cases are pure bullshit. This one is the height of bullshit because it has nothing to do with anything political.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's purely to destroy the man. Right. And the crazy part about this is if you if really the the goal of all of these things was to get him out of politics, you'd have to leave him with something. You got to leave him with his businesses so he can get out. Right. So the idea that they're going after him on this. And also, you know, when you buy a house, you've bought properties. When you buy a house, you don't just you can't just make up a number. This house is worth 40 million dollars. You get an appraiser. There is a system in place and it will depends right if you don't want to sell and someone comes to you and says i want to buy your property i think the value is you say sure but the idea so it's 17 and
Starting point is 00:32:36 a half acres in west palm beach no no it's easily not west palm beach i made the same mistake what oh it's in palm beach proper right right right beach to beach yeah have you been there i've been there like it's it's a little bit kind of getting old and they could fix up a lot of stuff and it's probably not worth what trump wants it to be worth but it is easily easily worth 80 million dollars there is no real estate agent no no i'm saying at the bare minimum probably closer to like 120 something like that way more. I don't know about that. You also have to remember the market. A third acre goes for $20 million.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah, but you have to remember the market and you have to find someone that can buy the thing. So it can be worth something sort of in our minds. But someone that really at this point with interest rates the way they are and everything else that would buy the thing. The point is it's not 18. We're agreed on that. Neither one of us know whether it's 100 or 120. If they section this thing off acre lots, he's going to get $300, $400 million for it. But I don't know that you should do that over there. Just dead acreage.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Right. Yeah, there's some covenants requiring it to remain historically or something like that, which does diminish the value. But right now, there's a house next door that is a third acre, and it's substantially, obviously the house property is substantially smaller, $30 some odd million. Right, right, right. Insane, insane. The guy's easily off $100 million.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I think we could say that. I think when you add the fact that it's a business, that it generates $25 million per year is the estimated revenue, combined with the real estate, the tennis courts and all of that, you've got a functioning business at $25 million. If you just had a business that ran at $25 million, you could argue your business is worth $250 million. So here's the way I phrase it, because Kyle Kalinske made this post
Starting point is 00:34:14 where he was ragging on Trump saying, it's not worth this, it's worth $75 million. That guy's still doing it? He went nuts on this one. That guy? And he said it generates $25 million per year. It's worth at most $75 million. All you got to do is break it down this way forget the real estate value which is 17 and a half beach to beach acres in palm beach okay let's just say a business let's
Starting point is 00:34:35 say you have a business that makes 25 million dollars a year and someone comes to you and says you you make 25 million dollars every year okay I'd like to buy this off you. I think it's worth $75 million. Your response is going to be, so what? You're paying me two years up front to sell my, for the rest of my life, $25 million a year? That's the stupidest deal I've ever heard. Maybe 10x. If he says $250 million, you're thinking, like, I get nine years of work up front.
Starting point is 00:35:01 With that money, I can do a lot of things. So if you go to Trump and you say, minus the real, it's only 75 million. Absolutely insane. You add that business onto it. You add the 17.5. I think Trump's assessment might have he said he said 400 to 600 might have been a little low, depending on on how you want to imagine it. Because if you were to break it apart, you could argue that value. But the crazy thing about the story is they're arguing in this fraud case against Donald Trump in New York and in Florida that he undervalued his property to get favorable or he overvalues his property to get more money on loans. That's that's the opposite of what people do with fraud. They say their property is worth less. So they pay less in taxes.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It would also be the fault of the bank. Right. Like most people get loans when you get when you buy you buy a house for a hundred thousand dollars you might put 20 grand down you get an eighty thousand dollar loan but the bank comes in and appraises it they don't they don't just magically you can't just write a number out and be like give me cash so yeah this is this thing is all complete nonsense uh the fact that so there's not going to be a jury trial you heard this they're not going to be a jury trial because apparently his lawyer forgot to check a box on the form.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about that. You don't have a jury of your peers in New York City. You have a whole bunch of crazy leftists that will, of course, automatically, no matter what happens, no matter what evidence is provided, automatically say Trump bad, Trump jail. Well, someone could double check it. But I think they're now saying that they didn't check a box. That box right so it's gonna happen either trump's lying or the judge is lying i think the strategy here ask yourself why would donald trump actually show up for this court
Starting point is 00:36:32 case when the judge already issued a summary judgment dissolving the trump organization they want to file an appeal so they don't want to waste their time with the jury that's pointless it's going to cost them more money all that stuff's a waste of time they get their ruling run it through file the appeal get the appeal, get the lower court reversed. Yeah, that's what I think is happening as well, because it doesn't make sense to have a jury trial. The judge is going to be deciding here. We saw a video of him today, and he clearly really likes the camera, really likes the
Starting point is 00:36:59 limelight. But with all of this happening here, just to take a step back, there's politicians that literally killed American teenagers. There's politicians that go to Jeffrey Epstein's island. And you're telling me we're going after this guy because he overinflated the property value that he had? This is after investigating him for so long. This is what you have on him? Are you freaking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:37:20 I will say this. You get these Democrat types that are like, we're holding people accountable. I mean, are you saying you don't want accountability? My response is, if you come to me and say, I can choose between investigating Epstein's client list and Donald Trump overvaluing his homes, I say, I don't care about Trump's homes. Please investigate Epstein's client list. They still have not released this. They're still not doing anything related to it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But, oh boy, they're mad about doing anything related to it but oh boy they're mad about trump the price of trump's properties yeah how many years ago did this freaking happen this is ridiculous this is stupid this is not in the public interest and this is clearly the weaponization of the justice system to destroy i have an idea to clean this thing up i have an idea to clean this thing up the timcast operation is going pretty well you got like 87 businesses you really you got you got a skate park indoors you're doing a lot of stuff let's find out about this 18 mil tim cast moves the operation down to florida you're running the thing if we can get mar-a-lago for 18 million dollars done deal i will take a i will i will take a half a billion dollar property for 18 million i bet i can go to any bank and build a sauna for
Starting point is 00:38:18 18 million so i will finance that oh you said 18 billion 18 million go go for it do you think are they giving you the just the flat land value appraisal when they said 17? They're not even accounting for business. No, there's no such thing. Right, right. Because otherwise it would be a complete teardown. I don't think anyone's making that argument. I got an idea.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I have an idea. Here's my proposal to counter-Democrats. I say we all give Donald Trump blanket immunity if he releases all the Epstein information and launches an investigation into Epstein. I will go as far to say I will give Trump a full pardon on literally anything he has, anything he has ever done. If they actually investigate and bring out the information on Epstein. And you might be saying, why would the Democrats do that? Yeah, that's a double loss.
Starting point is 00:39:03 No, no, I'm saying Trump does when he gets elected. When Trump gets elected, my pitch is, I think the American people should all just agree. Yeah, Trump, we're going to sign this document. All the American people agree. You are immune for any past wrongdoing ever done. It's gone. You are immune. OK, and now go after Epstein. And you may be saying, but what if what if Trump's on the Epstein list? What if what if he's involved? I'll be like, we we what if he committed some very serious crimes or fraud? You're going to let him get away with all that? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We go to drug lords and gangbangers all the time and say, we know you did this evil thing, but we're going to make you immune if you expose the leaders and the people facilitating this. So whatever you think of Donald Trump, my point is this. When they come out and they're like, we want to hold Donald Trump accountable for crimes. I mean, you're not saying you want him to get away with it, are you? I'll be like, bro, I will let him get away with it. I will clap for me having done it if it means they go after the real criminals. If it means they go after the people who were trafficking children.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah, absolutely. Do you think the world would be a better place? And assuming both of these would make it better, if the Hunter Biden, the Bidens were completely exposed globally and everyone knew, or if Epstein and Ghislaine were globally exposed and everyone knew? That's a good question. That's a good question. They're probably connected in some way. Absolutely, Epstein.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Because Epstein, it doesn't just go after the Democratic families. He also goes after the entire establishment. He also goes after the entire banking sphere, which was involved here, as we know, from the latest J.P JP Morgan settlement that happened. As of course, JP Morgan spent tens of millions of dollars trying to settle this out of court, when in reality, the facts of how they were complicit here
Starting point is 00:40:33 is absolutely mind boggling. You have to understand that the American government for over 30 plus years used your tax dollars, evaded and used and abused this system to traffic and hurt thousands of children, some of them as young as seven years old, with your money. This is ridiculous. This is infuriating.
Starting point is 00:40:51 There's so much corruption. And when you look at that Epstein thing, he doesn't just go after the puppet Biden family. He goes after everyone involved here. And there were a lot of different people, a lot of celebrities, a lot of banksters, a lot of people behind the scenes that we're not even aware of as of course biden here he's just a flesh suit that the globalists are using to screw you over i got the vibe that epstein was one of gilane's boys and that she has a bunch of those dudes and he was just the one that got caught because he's an idiot or he just went too far and that but she's like the the kingpin like the the lynchpin well where is the
Starting point is 00:41:24 list where is the list right what a judge it's sitting in a kingpin like the the lynchpin well where is the list where is the list right what a judge it's sitting in a locked box somewhere with the judge there's a lot of information kept away from the general public that judges are saying is is too controversial for the general public to find out about and therefore needs to be kept away from the people finding out so there'll be a freedom of information act at some point what 30 years from now and everyone's dead or me right no no no no no no no down just like they do with the jfk files that still aren't released 60 70 years yep 60 maybe even then i i think we have to understand here the government will never tell us the truth and we have to always imagine the worst and then times that 10 because it's probably a lot worse than what we can even imagine what really happens
Starting point is 00:42:03 behind the scenes because with the epstein stuff we're still just scratching the surface to how corrupt and utterly disgusting this entire system is and there's another article here that was just published by the daily mail showing just the true depths of this corruption that is titled senator diane feinstein's death leaves her daughter wrangling over breathtaking $102 million property fortune and $62 million private jet she used to visit her mansion. Damn! On that government salary? I feel so bad for, what's her daughter's name? Let me look that up right now. I feel so bad for, I mean, you're minding your own business one day, power of attorney over your son and her mom, and then you wake up to inherit $150 million in properties. The amount of work she's going to have to do. No, it's a lot of work. She's going to be in meetings with lawyers.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Oh, I just feel so bad for her inheriting this vast, vast swath of Scrooge McDuck-like wealth. When Dianne Feinstein got into the Senate in 1826, what were they paying at the time? Does anyone know what was the salary? I think it was food. What year did she get in? She was the mayor of San Francisco, but what year did she get in the senate probably 82 something like that like what were they paying at the time because the mayor of san francisco wasn't paying much maybe she had a little family money but a hundred million bucks in the plane i'm gonna i'll
Starting point is 00:43:18 look into it yeah let's get some numbers how many children do you have to hurt to acquire that money that's what that's what people should be asking themselves with these politicians, because that's... Who did she sell? What did she do? I'll tell you what she did. What she did was... Probably a lot of insider trading. It's like Pelosi, right?
Starting point is 00:43:34 What happens is a bill is introduced, and it says something like, we're going to ban widgets. Widget company comes by and says, hey, this is really bad for us. It's going to cost a lot of jobs. We don't want widgets banned. And then the politician's like, oh, but they're going to introduce this onto the floor, which is going to cause a stock to drop. So they put a bunch of put options on widgets. The bill gets introduced. Stock price goes down. They cash out. Then they say, no, we're not going to vote on this one. It's gone. And then the price goes back up. What's the, isn't there some crazy percentage that Nancy Pelosi has played the market at? Like she trades better than 900% of all day traders or something like that.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Whatever. I don't know. 90%? It's something like really. Like 900 times. No, literally by like 900 X. Like it's so,
Starting point is 00:44:18 someone could check me on that. But like, how the hell did she become worth all this money? How did Gavin become worth all this money? All of them. Right. It's like. That's why they want to get in congress they're like it's it's just for if you're a day trader and you want to get rich you get into congress and then you're rich yeah feinstein 30
Starting point is 00:44:32 years in congress she joined in 92 1992 130 000 salary their salary from 130 is now up to 174 right so that's 1.3 million you put your salary 30 years you put your your 90 90k for taxes or your 80k for taxes into a savings account a high yield and then with compounding interest after 30 years you have 150 million dollars yeah you could and you could do it too it depends which way they carry the one i think right well that's all members i think it's funny that we're all sitting here laughing because we know they know we know it just keeps happening but that's all members. I think it's funny that we're all sitting here laughing because we know. They know we know. It just keeps happening. But that's why I like Matt Gaetz, man. I mean, for whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Let's talk about the other guy. Here we go, everybody. You ready for this one? Bowman Camp slams Nazi Republicans after fire alarm flap. This is the state of Congress. We're in serious trouble. Okay, let me just I think you guys have seen the story. So this dude pulls the fire alarm next to next to a door with a sign
Starting point is 00:45:31 that says depress the bar or whatever for 30 seconds to open the door. This basically causes a stall in the vote over the government spending bill. He then says later, you know, I thought pulling the fire alarm opened the door. Which, I'm sorry, I don't think he is so stupid he actually believes that. I think he's smart enough to recognize if he says he intentionally pulled the fire alarm, he gets criminally charged. So it's a, I just
Starting point is 00:45:58 thought it opened the door. But I gotta tell you, ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it. He should be criminally charged. So after he gets a bunch of flack from everybody saying you know he's trying to stall and delay he then has his camp puts out a message saying that they're all nazis this is really really funny let me see i don't know if they actually have the messages here uh what he actually put out but uh he then comes out here we go timcast.com rep jamal bowman condemns use of nazi in memo issued to democrats
Starting point is 00:46:27 by his office saying it is important to specify the term nazi to refer to members of the nazi party and neo-nazis and then here's a tweet from john levine rep jamal bowman says michael knolls is a nazi hellbent on keeping only white men alive and in power we cannot allow him and others to push their evil agenda blah blah blah so there you. We can sit here and sing the praises of Matt Gaetz or Dr. Ron Paul when he was in office. And this is what Democrats have to offer, I suppose. For the record, Michael Knowles is a Christian Republican, not a Nazi. He doesn't serve the Nazi party. And I'm pretty sure his wife's Jewish. But all of that aside, these people are horrible. Nothing's going to happen to Bowman. He has Democrat privilege. You can do whatever you want. You can pull fire alarms. You can be racist. You can,
Starting point is 00:47:09 right before we started, there was the Ilhan Omar story about giving illegals IDs. It's like they can do anything and they get more power. That's how they operate and they protect their own much better than Republicans do. But this guy's a buffoon. You guys, I'm sure you covered the video of him screaming at Massey in the hallway a couple months ago. This guy is just, he's the worst of the worst, but he's exactly what the future of the Democrat Party is. He changed his story from,
Starting point is 00:47:33 I thought it would open the door when I pulled the fire alarm to, I was in a rush, I had to vote. So I pulled the fire alarm. No, no, no. He changed his story very recently. He's saying that the door is- Here for Colin Rugg.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Right, the door is normally open. He was in a rush. And when he got to the door and saw that it was closed, he thought, I have to get to the Capitol building, and if I pull the fire alarm, it'll open the door so I can get through. My question is... Despite the fact there's a sign on the door explaining how to open it. Is it now okay for congressmen to pull fire alarms when they're in a rush? Because that's the precedent this will set if he doesn't get arrested.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Well, I disagree. The excuse he's making is, I thought it opened the door, so it won't set precedent, but he't get arrested. Well, I disagree. The excuse he's making is, I thought it opened the door, so it won't set precedent, but he should be arrested. Ian, you should go to the Capitol right now and go into that same building, that same location,
Starting point is 00:48:14 and you should test out your theory, being like, I just need to leave here and then see what happens to you, because you could say you made a coinkidink. But that's actually a really interesting point. What if someone goes in there and says the exact republican though no no i'm just being literally anybody i mean you will get arrested yeah you pull the they're gonna arrest you and they're gonna give you all the insane bs you know a disrupting an official proceeding or whatever the democrats
Starting point is 00:48:36 really don't like that one and and how much government resources and time are you wasting mtg released a very interesting video showing how what this Congress member were saying was an absolute lie. But I think the Babylon Bee definitely takes the cake here as they wrote an article that was titled Democrats propose a $12 billion study to determine what strange red handle thingy with fire alarm on it does. They really just nailed this entire situation very well, more than any other news organization out there. As of course, there's so many lies by the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:49:08 There's lies by the Republicans, too. But all of them are just full of crap. And he should be held responsible for what he did. Doesn't this just seem to you like this is the next step of where the Democrats are obviously going pulling fire alarms? Like you've got John Fetterman in his hoodie and they changed the rules so he can wear shorts and a hoodie. But they changed it back, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:49:24 Did they change it back? Yeah, they did. I was away for a couple of days. I might have shorts and a hoodie but they changed it back didn't they did they change it back yeah they did i was away for a couple days i might have missed one so they actually changed it back yeah people were pissed off about that well that i'm i'm i have not heard that i'm completely amazed by that but he will figure out a way around it oh yeah but the just the basic idea that every norm that we have everybody that is that is uh respectful and decent and competent will eventually be purged and you will just get a bunch of people that pull fire alarms and tell you that they don't know what they're doing and a lot of people will be like oh i guess he didn't know what he was doing you know you know what it is is uh all that is required of evil to triumph is that good men do
Starting point is 00:49:57 nothing and too many people allow people like bowman to to to run and win yeah but many people support it but what if someone like pulled out a gun while they were shooting a movie and they were like oops and the gun went off and and they they killed the cinematographer like like alec baldwin did you would think like ignorance of not knowing that the gun was loaded with the bullet you would think that's not an excuse to commit the crime it's kind of a joke because bowman should be criminally charged the problem is our system is broken and corrupt i i i don't this is one i'm gonna have a hard time letting go of this one because for years to come people can pull fire alarms in congress if this isn't taken care of right away i hate to tell you they're letting
Starting point is 00:50:32 them go you got you know you know he'll probably get a ticket they'll be like he got he got a fine his office paid for it which is your tax dollars something like that'll happen and then we'll be told it's because america is systemically racist oh yeah that's the next thing he's going to come out and say yeah of course he is they wouldn't have done this to a black guy lauren bober would have been walking off scot-free yep white supremacy how black-pilled are you um i'm a little black-pilled about the nation as a whole but i'm very white-pilled on what's going on here in florida and i think that that's the freedom or that's the future of america we're going to kind of go our different directions.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And it's okay. And then Florida declares independence? I think we're probably not that far from that to some extent in some way. I only mean that's part, well, it's not even that you'd have to do that. The states are set up to be laboratories of democracy. And yes, you can't solve all the problems
Starting point is 00:51:21 in your own state because yes, they can still screw you. They can still screw you at the border by letting in all these people, but you can control your border to some degree you can't control declare independence no not today no not yet yes yesterday please declare independence immediately get away from the union and just leave us alone please let's put it this way i never thought i would have been a separatist in the star wars prequels but in the more you watch them and you see what's going on,
Starting point is 00:51:45 you kind of go, well, actually, when an entire system is corrupt, getting out of the system does make sense. I'm not for that. Well, you know, the other problem with that is that the red states, if the red states really were just like, let's kind of all get together
Starting point is 00:51:57 and not leave in like some drastic way, but just kind of do our own thing, have economic trading policies and all that on our own, the blue states will never let them go. Florida and Texas and South Dakota don't want anything from the blue states, but California wants the money and the resources of Florida. They can't keep running these giant deficits and all of this other shit without Florida and the red states, because what's going to increasingly happen, we know this is happening. All of the functional people who build things, who want the government out of the way,
Starting point is 00:52:27 who wanna produce, they're all moving to the red states and they're leaving the blue states. And don't forget that Lee Zeldin, who nobody knew about two weeks before the New York gubernatorial election, he lost by about 500,000 votes. You know how many people moved out of New York during COVID?
Starting point is 00:52:41 About 400,000. So it was that close to flipping what is like the red, the bluest of blue states. And now it just got further. So- But this is one of the big components of what happens in Florida and Texas, why it flips so red.
Starting point is 00:52:54 It's people coming here and then voting red. They're voting the right way. I mean, I meet these people all the time because people know that I did it very publicly, but everyone I meet here, the amount of former Dems that now tell me they're first time republicans do you know the numbers on that the the when desantis came into office someone could check this the uh it was i think the republicans were actually down by voter registration and now they're up by like 400 000 or something like that
Starting point is 00:53:19 someone give me the the real numbers on uh on our way here in the airport met some fans and uh they're like oh cool we love your show and i was like what do you guys what are you up to and they're like we're moving to florida no joke yeah they're like we're moving and i was like wow i was like we're on our way to miami yeah miami went red that's yeah it's a major urban area urban area is predominantly overwhelmingly democrat can i tell you something so great about this is just how like functional these people are. I was doing the show one day and I was talking about the crazy,
Starting point is 00:53:47 oh, it was right after I was in San Francisco and I did this video that went viral, just the zombie apocalypse, right? So I was talking about San Francisco and LA and Portland, Seattle, all that. And I said, I don't know how many homeless people there are in Miami, but I know it's not that many because you never see them
Starting point is 00:54:01 and we take care of business here. Literally, while I'm doing it, I get a text from suarez the mayor of miami and he says dave tell your audience we have 348 and i'm working on it like think about the functional difference of the people that are running this state and this city versus almost the entire country i think you're looking for numbers earlier uh republican party of flor, numbers for that. And 2023 was $5.2 million. Before that, it was $5.3 million in 22. So they're down $80,000 or something. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:54:30 No, no, no, no, no. In 2020, it was $5.2? In 2023, it was $5.24. In 2020, I'm going backwards. Let me go forward. In 2019, there were $4.7. 2020, there were $5.2. So that's 500,000 people joined the Republican Party in that year.
Starting point is 00:54:44 2021, it went down from $5.2 so that's 500 000 people joined the republican party in that year uh 2021 it went down from 5.2 to 5.1 so a million registered republicans left the party 100 000 you mean no no no oh yeah 100 000 i'm sorry i'm getting these numbers wrong um it's this is from dos.myflorida.com does that sound familiar these well the net number you're talking about is basically in four years it's about 500 000 more republicans yeah and that that is like a massively huge number for a state that is now really the reddest state in the nation i mean the guy won by 20 points has a super majority and there's 300 000 less democrats in 2017 there was 4.5 million registered republicans today there are 5.2 million registered Republicans in the state of Florida. How many Democrats? There are 4.6 as of
Starting point is 00:55:28 today. Wow! And in 2017, it was 4.8. This is a major urban state. All of Florida is a developed We personally have to thank the Cubans here. They've been through socialism and the
Starting point is 00:55:43 communism. They're pretty based. They don't like centralization. And I get along with them very well because I come from communist Poland. We don't like government there either. They don't like big government here as well. But, you know, the other thing that happens once you start doing things right, I think one of the things DeSantis has done really well. So, for example, I disagree with DeSantis on the six week heartbeat bill. Personally, my personal belief is 15 weeks. That's kind of where I would even be on 12 weeks, but I'm not as, let's say, conservative on that. But when you do strong conservative policies, not only do you get strong conservative people to move into your state, you also scare off the whack job lefties. So somebody that might have moved to Florida
Starting point is 00:56:20 before because of low taxes, suddenly they're like, but wait a minute, I like six-month abortions. I'm never going to move there. So it actually doubly helps you. You get the good people coming and you're also putting a force field so the wackadoodles don't move in. But there's a major negative to that. And if you look at what California did with illegal immigration, they end up getting between about one or two extra seats in Congress to vote against your rights, ban your right to keep in bare arms and things like that by breaking the law. By what? By allowing them to vote, you mean? They don't allow them to vote or whatever it is they allow them to do. When non-citizens are allowed into the state of California, they are counted in the census, which then apportions congressional seats. So you don't need to be a citizen in order for your presence to have an effect on the
Starting point is 00:57:02 Electoral College and Congress. I blame this on the federal government and also the Banana Republic of California. There's actually a risk here. If all of the people are leaving their areas, and I'm not saying they should stay. They should certainly be moving away from the cities, in my opinion, for the most part. But if they all come to Florida and then Florida wins by 20 points, if you're thinking about strategic allotment of your resources, gerrymandering comes to mind. You want to make sure that you are putting just enough people in the right places to win those districts. If you get half a million people from three or four states, put them on Florida, you're well, Florida's already red.
Starting point is 00:57:38 You know, Florida doesn't need 500,000 new people. Florida did get more seats because of that. Oh, for sure. Sure. That's one extra seat. Just about one more state is going to be given to Florida. But you'd be better off winning outright winner take all states by putting one hundred thousand five states as opposed to five hundred thousand in one state. To be clear, as a new Floridian, I'm not for everybody moving here
Starting point is 00:57:58 like, you know what I mean? Like you really do need to spread it out. And as a nation, we do have to if we're going to remain united at all, gets us back to the other thing but yeah we're not so convinced but look a whole but no if we are too i think maybe we aren't but yeah i think yes well look how many people moved to tennessee in the last three years i mean it's it's a crazy amount of people as well but you know it might just be we talk a lot about national divorce civil war what it means and there are a lot of people that think this is like where we are now is where we will be until the fighting starts and there's another reality san francisco is in disarray it's falling apart los angeles is falling apart there's there's feces everywhere that there's they're they're they're the westfield mall they they uh what was it um they relinquished the claim to the property to
Starting point is 00:58:39 their lender oh in san francisco yeah yeah yeah The mall, two of the biggest hotels did this. The reality may be that these blue states stay on this path. We maintain stability for five, six, seven years. And these cities just lose all their political power and capital. Now, right now, they can claim, oh, we make all the money and blue states do all the work. You're a city. OK, it's outside of the cities all red for the most part. If these cities are mismanaged to this degree and their policies are going insane and people are leaving, it's called a brain drain. The people who are leaving
Starting point is 00:59:08 are the hard workers who don't want to be in a place where they're being oppressed for their hard work. So they go to Florida where they can strive, where they can thrive. And then the people who remain
Starting point is 00:59:18 are demanding of the government. The government raises taxes. The system falls apart. Give it five, ten years. New York will be a pigsty, pit stain. No one's going to want to be there anymore. And they will have no political capital. And then people are going to look to Florida and they're going to look to Texas and they're going to look to Tennessee. Well, the next version is then between the fentanyl and the God knows
Starting point is 00:59:35 what sex these people are doing and everything else. Then the super virus starts, the zombie apocalypse. And then and then, yes, we do have to put gators at the border to keep these freaks out. Do you think you could have benefited at all california if you'd stayed no i did everything i could do i fought as hard as anyone i campaigned with larry elder i got audited by the state three days after the campaign ended that was the day i put my house for sale for real um california wants to go in that direction there are good people there i was just there i had dinner with some friends like there are still a good people there. I was just there. I had dinner with some friends. Like there are still a good people remaining, but everyone's depressed.
Starting point is 01:00:08 It's all they talk about. Yes, you're gonna find pockets of sanity. Of course, it's not all that crazy everywhere, but you're right. The brain drain. It's not just what it does to the businesses and everything else. It's what it does to the human spirit
Starting point is 01:00:21 when you realize you're in a, why would you ever open a store, a freaking sneaker store or a pizza joint if you you know on any given moment they're going to burn it down? What it does to your family. So what happens is, the brain drain is, the people who normally start the businesses leave because they can't, and the people who don't start businesses stay and demand of the government. That's the writer's guilt strike. This is the same exact thing that happened in Cuba. Cuba faced a major brain drain.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And this is why a lot of people speculate that we had a total almost collapse of their society because everyone was leaving Cuba, leaving communism, leaving somewhere where the government was oppressing them, taxing them, controlling them. And they left for places like Florida. And this is why Cuba is the state that it is now. This is why the Soviet Union fell. This is why communism never works. And the people in that country usually go hungry because the people capable are the ones usually punished by that entire system. Tim, you want to go while you're in Miami to a place where everyone's going to know you and buy you a mojito, go to Little Havana down here and hang out with some of the Cubans
Starting point is 01:01:19 who will talk about freedom until four in the morning, hopped up on sugar and rum. These are good people who care. They care about freedom. Yeah. And morning hopped up on sugar and rum these are good people who care they care about freedom yeah and you said mojitos yeah no no mint for me you mentioned ceviche well we'll have a we'll have we don't drink no booze here we'll have a little kombucha with them but but i don't think that little kombucha yeah yeah but but no the cubans here are very based and they're they, very, very strongly independent. They don't like government. They don't like centralization.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And I think this is why Florida is so great because of them. I keep thinking about pills. You mentioned earlier like the brain drain and it's all kind of circling around my head now. Like just distractions in general. People playing video games, watching porn, taking opiates or whatever, opioids. What is your vision for how to help people? I mean, actually, I'll just say weed apparently can help people with withdrawals you know it can help suppress some of the pain that felt by opiate withdrawals CBD CBD yeah so but there are paths to maybe
Starting point is 01:02:16 introduce new new new things but like what do you see because I think this is like no matter how political you get it always comes down to if the population's doped up population ain't going anywhere well look I'm not Jordan Peterson so i'm not in the business of giving life advice to people but you know i do my august off the grid thing for one month a year for seven years i freaking put this thing in a safe and i have no news no tv no social media nothing i know absolutely nothing a couple years we've gone to bora bora a couple years this year we were in the mexican rainforest wow and just disappear this year actually this year I really now having kids this year I didn't want to do it I didn't read any books I just did nothing I mean we exercised ate good food but that
Starting point is 01:02:54 was it and then I come back and I have fresh eyes on this you know Tim since me and you were like OG in this freaking thing right like like think about it where we started and where both of us are respectively we've been doing this for a long time. I was later than a lot of people. Yeah, but roughly, like, we're old timers now in this game. I hate to tell you, man. But when I first met you, you had freaking nothing and you built something amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Like, we've been in this for a long time. And how many people do you know that were in the similar world as us that have lost their freaking mind, gone crazy? Just every, the whole thing breaks them. The politics breaks them. The money breaks them. The fame breaks them.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Or the lack of money or lack of fame, blah, blah, blah. And to me, one month. So I take one twelfth of the year without this freaking thing, and I come back, and I'm fresh, and I'm ready to go. And I think it's kept me in the game. You're asking people to basically, we'll do a Marvel reference so that everybody can understand and enjoy it. Yeah, in Infinity War, when Thor is standing in the way of the Star Forge,
Starting point is 01:03:54 you're asking people in politics to stand in the center of a forge being burned on all sides. Not everybody can handle that. Oh, that's where he gets the big hammer or something. Yeah, he has to pull the levers and it blasts him and he's like dying. Yeah. All right, I'm asking people
Starting point is 01:04:10 to do that. Is that such a big deal? This job is being inside of a pressure cooker 24-7 nonstop and some people like popcorn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:21 When's the last time you did one day? One day. No, usually i would say like saturdays yeah so you do try to i would say saturdays i'm like 99 percent reduced all right you know like i still check my phone for texts and stuff like that but uh usually saturday morning on and then around sunday night i'm back on and i'm picking everything i was on twitter hellhole yesterday man there's nothing like it oh it'll get you it'll bring you to hell and then you're And around Sunday night, I'm back on and I'm picking everything up. I was on Twitter hellhole yesterday, man.
Starting point is 01:04:45 There's nothing like it. Oh, it'll get you. It'll bring you to hell. And then you're just lucky if you can get back in. But I'll tell you, you do this. If you can try to do it, even for a weekend or a week or whatever, like when I'm three weeks into this thing, I'm remembering friends that I have not thought of. Second graders.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I can basically remember every kid in my class. I'll have whole songs, albums in my brain. I could tell you every word like there is so much so much stuff in the recesses of the human mind that we just we just completely uh shit on with day-to-day now holy shit this person who i don't know i never heard of they said something and i'm gonna destroy them for it and we're doing that all day long and there is there is magic in us in our our minds, in our brains, in our spirit. Your dopamine receptors are just being blasted. And it's pretty much just unhooking from the matrix. I used to do it every two weeks.
Starting point is 01:05:31 But things have been so crazy. It's been difficult within the last few years to take a break. But you reminded me I need to take a break. It's just like meditation. If you can't meditate for 10 minutes, you've got to meditate for 20 minutes. Exactly. Exactly. The machine ain't going to slow down. I hate to tell you.
Starting point is 01:05:45 This is why vacation is important. Yeah. Let's jump to this tweet here. Let's get on Twitter. We're going to get on Twitter. Let's get to murder talk. We're going to. We have this tweet from Scott Adams.
Starting point is 01:05:55 This story, as Dave says, is wild. Scott Adams tweeted July 1st, 2020. If Biden is elected, there's a good chance he will be dead within the year. Republicans will be hunted. Police will stand down. On September 30th, Josh Kruger says, the Dilbert dude is like Nostradamus. Look at this prediction from 2020. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Eerie. Making fun of Scott Adams for having made that point. And then we have this story from Timcast.com. Journalist shot seven times in Philadelphia home. Josh Kruger was killed in his home on Monday. Yo, that's crazy. So this is actually what, this is, he was killed today. Is that it?
Starting point is 01:06:35 I thought it was 1 a.m. Jeez, wow. So this guy who was just mocking Scott Adams over his prediction about this stuff was shot and killed in his own home. I think the news is that there was no sign of a break-in. He had mocked and argued with critics expressing concern of a rising crime in Philadelphia. Yeah, he made fun of people who weren't taking COVID seriously. And he said COVID is more of a serious threat than the urban violence that's happening all throughout the United States. And he was pretty much ridiculing a lot of people who were taking it seriously.
Starting point is 01:07:09 As I think if you live in a major city, you should be taking, you know, survival and personal protection very seriously. I think you might want to consider not being there. But let's, here's one. He says, look, it's that lawless land of liberals in Philly where shootings are dropping to levels not seen in years. Here's another one, bro. Speak for your block, not mine. It isn't ruined. The city isn't ruined.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And just because Larry Krasner keeps winning in landslides doesn't mean Philly is a heap of cinders. And Ash, no matter how much people say, like the rest of this country, we are dealing with upticks in crime. The crazy thing is, yo, I saw these tweets. I don't know when he posted this one, but I remember seeing people retweeting this before he died. Yeah, it's not too long ago. I think they were in August. Yeah, right. I remember when these tweets were going out and people were saying, like, are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Like, you're not considering what the people need. This dude was killed in his own home. In Baltimore, we had the story of that tech CEO who was found beaten to death on her roof by a guy who only a few days earlier had tortured a couple. He broke into their house, tied them up, raped the woman, set them both on fire. Police knew he did it, and they said nothing. And then he killed again, and then they came and said, okay, okay, this is getting serious. These are the things that are happening in our cities. Don't get me wrong. These things happen. Crime happens. All this stuff happens. But it is just, I don't know what you'd call it, shocking coincidence or or whatever that this guy has been defending the positions that democrats
Starting point is 01:08:30 have taken that have led to this increase in crime he has mocked people who feared that you would be seriously harmed by police standing down and he lost his life do you know how many people i knew at the height of covid in the summer of love when everybody was rampaging through everything and they're ransacking all the streets and all of that shit, how many Hollywood liberals that I knew that were all day long for the previous five years, ranting and raving about gun rights,
Starting point is 01:08:53 who were calling me and other people that I knew on, where can we buy guns? I have a friend who would never want me to be named, but like a big time celebrity person who I knew, you know, could get guns. Right. And everybody was trying to almost it doesn't even matter the gender of this person.
Starting point is 01:09:12 But they were they were inundated with the amount of people because when push comes to shove, you know, basic, you know, it's a conservative is just a liberal mug by reality. I think this guy actually had a gun. Is that possible in Philly or is it? Yeah, no. He said in another twitter thread that he had a gun and a guy had previously broken into his house and he didn't get the gun he figured out another way of escalating it even though the guy was standing in his bedroom or something yeah this is where the story gets a little deeper like on face value like uh-oh random violence maybe but in reality this guy has had a history with drugs um drug abuse and he if like what you were just saying, he at some point in April of this year or some other year had woke up and a guy was in his room.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And he's like, what are you doing here? Some guy he used to know. How did he get in? I must have given him a key, maybe. He didn't even remember giving a guy a key to his house. So this is the guy who at 1.30 in the morning with no sign of a break-in gets shot in his own apartment. Like, who are those people? How did they get in if there's no break-in?
Starting point is 01:10:04 And I don't know that the no break-in is definitely confirmed. Did you confirm that or not? No, I don't know. I just didn't see any signs of a break-in. No one mentioned any kind of break-in entering. So 1.30 in the morning, guy shot seven times in his own room, has a history of giving his key out to people and not remembering it. Or that's just an excuse because it happened and he didn't want to come out
Starting point is 01:10:23 and be like, yeah, but conservatives. I got to say, when David Hogg said, when they were getting rid of the mask mandates and he says, yeah, but I don't I don't want to take it off because I'm people think I'm a Republican. Yeah. Like these are the people who would rather allow someone to break into their home and kill them than admit conservatives were right. He actually tweeted that he was ready to die or something like, I guess I'll die then or something like that. Who, David Hogg? No, Josh Kruger. Or this guy. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I glanced at it earlier. I didn't save the location of the tweet. But if you scroll down his feed, maybe it's there. It's tough to talk about because the guy did just die. So we got to be a little sensitive about the loss of life. That's the thing. You know, so Mike Cernovich had some tweets out recently about how if Biden wins, he says, have you had to talk? Something about, have you had the talk with your family
Starting point is 01:11:05 about how you'd be framed for a crime so they can kill you or whatever? And I'm like, a bit aggressive, a bit aggressive. I don't completely, I should say, I don't disagree with Mike, just a bit aggressive. And my response was,
Starting point is 01:11:17 people don't know, don't understand what happens to a country when they begin arresting their political opposition and lawyers. So I think there's a normalcy bias. People don't want to believe it. And that's why I like to do the time travel test. Go back, insert X amount of years, and tell people everything that happened today.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They won't believe you. You go back six years and say Donald Trump will be indicted. They'll go after his lawyers. They'll indict his lawyers. They'll start issuing fines, 200 grand on lawyers who argued on his behalf in the election. People are going to be like, shut up up that'll never happen in this country mention january 6 to someone six seven years ago and they're gonna be like oh shut up that won't happen that's crazy yeah there's a viral we are the viral video of the mayor of chicago in 72 oh yeah we played it on my show
Starting point is 01:11:57 today he was saying that uh looters you shoot looters to kill them and or arsonists you shoot them to kill looters you shoot to maim and this is just the governor or the governor he was he was the mayor of Chicago think about how that daily has fallen no it was uh someone can grab his name I think he was the mayor in about 72 you guys remember what we'll get it yeah um but it's a great video it's like you're watching a competent executive be like I'll defend the free people of my city the people who are doing it right instead of defending the looters and the arsonists and everyone else and also saying in essence we we believe we live in a society to quote george costanza like we either live in a society or we don't but this is why i am optimistic look man yeah it was mayor daly it was 1968 wow because i'm pretty sure because the dailies run
Starting point is 01:12:41 ran chicago forever but uh uh look man when they're aborting their kids, when they're sterilizing their kids, when they would rather— There'll be none of them left. They won't—exactly. They won't defend themselves. They won't advocate for the defense. And they will advocate for the machine that hates them. I'm just like, if you've got a guy who says, no guns, no guns,
Starting point is 01:13:02 oh, someone broke into my house, don't worry, I still don't need guns. It's like, well, this dude is not likely to have kids and i'm not you got to zoom out it's never it's it's not about what one person does or doesn't do it's about what most people do it even to tiny tiny degrees if for 50.01 percent of liberals engage in behaviors that result in them having no kids they're they're going to slowly cease to exist and their ideology will go along with them i hope but communism's been around for a long time yeah and also if you factor in like you know china using tiktok to brainwash a generation of americans it's not as simple as just pure like like numbers in terms of giving birth it's there's a there is an ideological war being waged on children that are converting, right? I agree, but I do think it's I still think having kids is 10 to 100 times more impactful than social manipulation.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Social manipulation plays a large role, but there's inverse social reaction, right? So libertarians, conservatives, post liberals coming out and saying no to this stuff in school no to tiktok get your kids off social media homeschool your kids that counterforce to a certain degree will negate the effect of china or whatever social manipulation we're experiencing you add to that mix they're literally advocating for things that put their lives in danger or inhibit them from having children i think in 20 years you got a two to one republican advantage i hope you're right man i didn't how often do you dole out white pills these days that i've been saying this thing for a couple years and people argue that i'm wrong and i'm like because they make the point you made and i'm like i agree they're trying to indoctrinate kids
Starting point is 01:14:39 but when you look at what florida did with with the books saying like when desantis did that press conference where he's like look at these books look at what Florida did with the books, saying like when DeSantis did that press conference where he's like, look at these books, look at what was in these books. And then they cut the feed. And Nikki Freed said Ron DeSantis posting butt plug porn. It's like he's criticizing you. That right there as a governor exposing this and giving them no recourse because all she could do is admit it. That's waking people up. Like, yes, there are a lot of conservatives it's funny when they come
Starting point is 01:15:06 to tim cast i roll studios and they're like they say oh my kids going to college next and i'm like which one and they're like oh nyu and i'm like are you insane yeah like do you watch the show you're about to be maybe university of chicago that's pretty much it that's pretty much it do you guys a couple others do you talk publicly about how you guys want to raise the kids in terms of schooling yeah stuff like that you know it's funny i not really but i would say just sort of generally speaking i mean first up we're in florida where we have really some of the best public schools in the united states and it's ironic because you know 20 years ago when florida was thought of as the golden girls and this is where everyone goes to retire and there's no
Starting point is 01:15:41 income tax there were bad schools here because older people didn't want to put money towards it and there just wasn't an income tax in the first place now we have basically the best schools in the nation i don't my i mean just because of my uh public nature i don't think we'll send them to public school but but regardless the idea that you just hand your kid off to some state employee and that they could call your son by the opposite gender name they can make up a name and then hide it from you and the the whole fucking machine was like, DeSantis is the bad guy for fighting. This is so bananas. Here's what's crazy is that these children are reportedly experiencing suicidal ideation. And the state says withhold that from the parents.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Yeah. If the purpose of transition is to reduce suicidal ideation, why would you withhold that information from the parents? It's a lie. It is a lie. What do you think about like giving kids access to the TikTok, the internet? How do you look at that? Well, I thought Vivek's answer at the debate, did you see that was pretty poor actually.
Starting point is 01:16:39 So they asked him in the debate because he got on, he had been talking about banning TikTok for about a year. And then apparently he hung out with Jake Paul and Jake Paul convinced him to get on TikTok. So Vivek said, well, I want to get young voters and the Republican party always loses. So we have to get where they are. But then when I'm in office, I'll ban it. And no one under 16 should be on social media. And it's like, well, first off, who gives the president of the United States the right to say who can be on social media and what age you can be?
Starting point is 01:17:05 That's a really bizarro authoritarian tendency that he said right there. But that's sort of the ends justify the means kind of thing. Like, do you want to use Chinese spyware and encourage people to be on Chinese spyware so that the day you get the power, you can ban the Chinese spyware? So, no, I do not. I personally don't have TikTok. I did not want to use it on my show at all. My man Brock over here, my social media media guy he wanted us to be on there I said you are I am not pressuring you at all I said if you want a burner phone to put it on and you go ahead and he did that but but I yeah I want nothing to do with it the fake side of backwards you don't ban kids from social media although I think kids shouldn't be on social media but that should be up to the parent but it should it should be that we criminally charge people who post, say, like porn on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:17:48 So if you're a person who was on Twitter and you post pornographic material, then it should be Elon Musk and it should be the person who posted it who are criminally charged for posting. You're talking about illegal porn or porn? But wait, you're saying that's how it should be right now. I mean, so you want Elon Musk to be held account for some for for legal porn that's on the platform. Yes, not any. But wait, you're saying that's how it should be right now? Yes. So you want Elon Musk to be held account for legal porn that's on the platform?
Starting point is 01:18:08 Yes, I do. So let's put it this way. So you have a disagreement if it's just policy with him because he said it's fine. Right, so imagine you own a bookstore and that's all it is,
Starting point is 01:18:18 it's a bookstore, but you know that a lot of the books in the store are graphic, hardcore pornography and you allow children in guess what's going to happen yeah if you if you have an adult bookstore and you allow children in the police are
Starting point is 01:18:31 going to come and you are going to get in serious trouble so you want some basic parental rules around twitter i actually don't know what i have no idea i'm singling out twitter kind of as it's the shock value to say elon musk right but the reality is my question and we've talked about quite a bit how did we get to the point in society where we've decided that we have the internet which is effectively public streets and you know what you might ask your 10 year old to go run to the store and pick up a thing of some milk right it's no big deal but then there's someone standing in the street corner and they're waving around a big picture of adults in hardcore adult activities the kid sees it, freaks out.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Anybody who sees it, they call the police. Guess what the police are going to do? They're going to arrest that guy. And they're going to say, you violated a whole bunch of public lewd and lewd and lascivious laws, indecent exposure, et cetera. But the internet, which functions essentially in a similar way, it's a public space where people can post things. There's no repercussions for any of these businesses to allow minor children the age of 13 and even younger to access things that would otherwise be illegal to distribute so if twitter had the same regulations related to age that i guess porn hub has or something where you have to click something
Starting point is 01:19:37 you'd be okay with that you need an id meaning you yeah okay but you're saying as long as there's some system in place where i just don't know what the deal is. I have no recollection when I signed on to Twitter. Do you have to say your... You want to go to an adult bookstore, you walk in and say, ID, please. You show them your ID and say, okay, now you're old enough to be in here. That's because we don't want kids going into adult bookstores. Twitter should be the same. If you post lewd and lascivious adult activities, you should put a blur over the image.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And then only people who have verified IDs can view these, these controlled images. Right. It's interesting because Elon has a different policy on this than you can't do that on Facebook, right? I haven't been on Facebook in years. I have no freaking clue,
Starting point is 01:20:14 but I'm sure you can't. Right. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Uh, no, actually, but it's extremely borderline.
Starting point is 01:20:19 So when you're on Facebook and Instagram, it's, it's, you know, uh, women with wet t-shirts on and you could pretty much see everything, but therefore it is not her being naked. It's still somehow allowed. And that's
Starting point is 01:20:30 usually shown to a lot of people's algorithms. You can't put porn on Instagram, but you can. You can, but not explicit. There's a lot of tricks they do to get around it. One of the tricks they do is on Instagram, you know how they do the mosaic where you upload a bunch of pictures and then it makes your feed.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Oh, it creates. Oh, yeah. So. Oh, so each individual photo is not. But altogether, they. It's right. They got the tricks. They got the tricks.
Starting point is 01:20:59 But my point is simple. I am not literally saying I believe in the moral absolute position that we must do these things. I am saying if it is the standard right now to say kids can't drink, kids can't look at porn, you need an ID to enter the establishment, why don't we have those same restrictions? How did the internet come to be that we just assume as a society it should not have these safeguards for children? Probably because a lot of it was built by 16-year-olds sitting in their room. I think it was because it was never taken seriously. Because in the early days of the internet, they were just like. It was the Wild West.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Nobody knew what the hell was going on. But nobody used it. We're now at the point of ubiquity. The internet is everything. And we've not stopped to ask ourselves, are we okay with creating public highways and public streets where children can get access to graphic murder, snuff, and hardcore porn? To be honest, I'm okay with the highways being there we just need to police them properly because if you go after the network for something that
Starting point is 01:21:48 happens on the network you'll end up crashing the whole system but this is my point the person who posts it but the solution there is i don't think we should ban porn i think the way twitter and every platform should work is if you post it it is blurred and you can't see it unless you have verified your your your age. It would be an interesting conversation to have with Elon. YouTube does this. But they don't have any real... YouTube will age restrict certain content. But all you have to do is log in and claim you're a certain age.
Starting point is 01:22:14 You don't need an ID. Or you could shove things up, you know what, and still be on YouTube and that's totally fine. But if you question... There was a particular video that we can't even pretty much describe that's allowed. And YouTube those other stamp of approval youtube had videos with millions of hits called what's in my bum where they would show people and then they'd have to guess what was and i'm like this is not not just items but other individuals right
Starting point is 01:22:41 pornography has been individual yeah yeah but i mean pornography has been weapon there were other people up yes yes yes what are you saying well it's still there it's like a midget what are you talking about don't get any ideas here ribbon uh calm your horses there okay sir uh another human being was inside of another i can't family friendly show for the members we'll save it for the family family friendly-friendly show here, please. I'm getting too old for this shit. Pornography has been weaponized. Militaries have used it against populations.
Starting point is 01:23:10 How do you handle that without destroying free speech? I think it's something that I think is worth looking into. But I think we should always try to prioritize freedom of speech without violating and destroying and running a fifth-generational warfare program on the future of this country.. As of course, it's not just TikTok. It's not just Instagram. It's Hollywood. It's corporate America. It's BlackRock. It's the ESG score. It's the banks that are all working in tandem, destroying the children of this country. And, you know, I want to agree with you, Tim, but I think when it comes to your kind of white pill moment here, it could go either way, because if we look at the kids of Kellyanne Conway, you look at her daughter, you look at
Starting point is 01:23:49 Elon Musk, he has a non-binary child. How in the world did that happen? Yeah, one of nine, though, right? You could lose your kids to the machine. You could also lose your kids to the state with CPS being overly aggressive and going after parents and also abusing and hurting children in other unspeakable ways. So I think the fight is there. How do you handle it without giving the government more authority over you? I think is the question that I want to answer.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Well, I think, Tim, without belaboring the point, I don't think you really want to go in to all of the companies and force them to do all sorts of things. But it sounds like to me, you want at least the Internet service providers to have a little more control over things, right? Because Elon is running a private company so to me he can do what my personal belief is he can do what he wants with it no i disagree yeah you don't think he can do what he wants with it no i think no he if he's okay go ahead go ahead like i don't know i don't i don't want to put words in your mouth you can't sell booze to 13 year olds at a bar no no we have within the confines of the law right right i
Starting point is 01:24:43 think as long as he's within the confines of law and that's where we're getting i guess he's not well then it is illegal to run a business that delivers pornographic materials to children elon musk is doing that i i guess under the way you're saying it i think it's not under the way i'm saying it's like no i just don't know i'll take your word for i just don't know exactly what the sign-up process is on all that stuff but so i believe what you're saying yeah i think because... It's not under the way I'm saying it. It's like... No, I just don't know. I'll take your word for it. I just don't know exactly what the sign-up process is on all that stuff. So I believe what you're saying. I think because you need a bank account. I signed on it 12 years ago. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Any internet access, you need to have a bank account. A kid can't get internet access. That's not true. No, no. Well, you're talking about Twitter itself, just a service that is quote-unquote free. You can't... Like, the fact that these platforms exist and outright say you have to be at least 13, 13 years old to use it means. OK, fine. Your parents can drive a kid.
Starting point is 01:25:30 A kid can't get to the adult bookstore because it's it's 10 miles away. So his parents drive him there. But then they say they drop him off around the corner. They don't know what he's doing. And then the kid goes to an adult bookstore. And there there is Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk being like, hey, you're 13. You're good to look at all this stuff. Don't about it i don't understand how that how that is you gotta have sensitive filters but it's hard to make sure that they always work and like to destroy the
Starting point is 01:25:52 network because one of them got through as a risky problem is is the argument that we've come to a point in society where we decided that porn should be available to children is that is that is that the argument no that's not my argument no i mean my mean, my point is like, no one will disagree. It is a fact. If you go to an adult bookstore, they say you need an ID to come in. Otherwise, we'll be breaking the law. The internet quite literally has porn websites and kids can go to them without any restrictions. And when laws were proposed to require IDs for porn websites, these porn websites said no.
Starting point is 01:26:23 They were like, how dare you? Because, you know a lot of these companies that run ads i bet a lot of these kids a lot of their views come from children the joke i made on twitter is when you're on the internet no one knows you're 14 because a lot of these politicians like you'll see you'll see you know insert politician arguing with someone i'm like you're 40 and that person you're responding to is probably 14 but how many of these businesses get their money off of viewership not direct pay and like they're running weird ads or whatever and those kids generate ads so my point is simply this either we agree that we have never
Starting point is 01:26:56 allowed children to go to adult bookstores and we must maintain that same standard in all areas of the public which means twitter must immediately restrict this stuff. Or we agree that, you know what, we've evolved as a society. We now think children should have access to adult material. What do you think about erotic text? There's like erotic novels. We also have to hold Facebook accountable because a lot of children use Facebook and they send explicit photos of each other over that platform as well. So if we're going to go after this, we have to go after Mark Zuckerberg as well, if we're going to be implementing those laws as well.
Starting point is 01:27:27 So another aspect to really kind of carefully unravel all of this is also just what happened with Twitter a couple of months ago. After Elon Musk took it over, he came out and we found out through the Twitter files that there was even a scenario, a situation where a child was hurt in very unspeakable ways that we can't mention here on this particular broadcast. And that incident was broadcasted on Twitter. Twitter knew for about two weeks that this person was a child, was hurt, and the videos of them being hurt in adult ways was being shared on their platform.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Twitter decided not to do anything about it. Not even intervene. The victim was demanding the removal. And demanding that their private photos and videos of them being hurt be taken down. Twitter said, no, we're not going to do that. You know, one thing I can say in sort of Elon's defense related to that sort of thing,
Starting point is 01:28:16 not to your sort of philosophical point, is that when he got there, and having met him a couple of times now and talked about this stuff, there are so many bad people still at that company and he's working to get rid of them and that there were systems in place to do all of the awful things twitter was basically remember when jack dorsey tweeted that we don't shadow ban i mean he actually testified under oath they don't shadow ban i went to twitter and i sat with programmers with like 10 computers in front of me showing me the entire system where
Starting point is 01:28:43 the entire thing was designed to shadow ban. It wasn't that they didn't shadow ban. Every keyword that they used to shadow ban, every phrase, I was on like 20, I should have asked them about your account. Maybe I can try. They had crazy lists of all sorts of people. If you were suspended once,
Starting point is 01:29:00 you could be shadow banned in a certain way. If you said this word, you could be shadow banned another way. So there was already such a crazy system in there that I would say in Elon's defense, you have to give him a little chance to fix some of this stuff. So like the child porn thing, it's like people knew there was child porn on there and nobody cared. Then Elon took over.
Starting point is 01:29:17 And what happened the next day? The Twitter has a major child porn problem. And I forget who it was. Maybe it was Cernovich. Somebody tweeted, you know, it's interesting. All these articles are popping up about child porn problem. And I forget who it was. Maybe it was Cernovich. Somebody tweeted, you know, it's interesting. All these articles are popping up about child porn on Twitter. Nobody, none of the authors who wrote these articles
Starting point is 01:29:29 as a mainstream pieces had ever written about it before Elon. So the point is there's a system in place. He was, the guy's trying to fight it. I would give him a little grace on some of that. No, no, no. My point is not literally that we should storm into Twitter's office right now.
Starting point is 01:29:41 My point is the hypocrisy of saying, like the conservative values of don't let kids go to adult bookstores and bars yeah but then ignoring the issue of the internet i guess the best thing you can do as a parent and it's probably the challenge for every parent is how do you in a time when your kid is going to be walking around with this freaking thing don't give them one right so that's the challenge and then you want to be the one parent that doesn't let the kid have it and all that shit no no i get it it's easy it's easy to say and maybe one day if you're a parent you'll have to that challenge i put in front of you and i will and
Starting point is 01:30:12 all of us will maybe you know like that's the thing it's easy to say it but then people people you know my my my attitude is uh we see these videos that went viral where the trans high school student or middle school student is beating the girls up. Oh, yeah. Mike Cernovich, I think, had a good point where he said, if you homeschool your kids, they'll be socially maladjusted. Right. Making the point that they say, don't homeschool your kids because then they won't understand social behaviors and everything. And it's like, if you look at modern public schooling and how kids are behaving, you don't want your kids emulating that.
Starting point is 01:30:45 There's a viral video showing children during World War II who are like nine years old and they sounded like they were 50. It's like a little kid and he's like, well, I quite think it's interesting Hitler's move in, you know, and it's like, is it a child? It's because these kids were raised by adults. Kids today are raised by kids. And they're drugged.
Starting point is 01:31:00 They're raised by, the most important point though is that kids today are raised by other kids. So the way I described it is I had three roommates once that were all from Europe, France, Italy and Spain, and they all spoke English as a second language. And they all hung out with each other as these like exchange students. So when they spoke with each other in English, they made their own colloquial English because it was a second language to them. When they tried talking to you, you'd be like, what?
Starting point is 01:31:28 Like, what is that you just said? They could make up words. They get something wrong. They think bird is board. And he says, board. You know, the board in the sky. And then the other guy who's French is like, oh, board. Then they start talking to you about boards. They're all over the place. They're eating and pooping. And you're like, what's a board? What are you talking about? They made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Reinforce it amongst each other. Kids do this all the time. You put your kid in a grade school. The kids don't care about the place. They're eating and pooping and you're like, what's a border? What are you talking about? They made a mistake. Reinforce it amongst each other. Kids do this all the time. You put your kid in a grade school. The kids don't care about the teachers. The kids aren't learning from the teachers. The teachers are not giving kids behaviors to emulate. The kids are saying, the teachers are saying, read page 7. Start. And then the kids go and socialize with other kids when they should be socializing
Starting point is 01:32:00 with older people who are working. This is one of the biggest problems we have right now. Conservatives should consider that. And I think that's why homeschooling is so important. Homeschooling, charter schools, blow up the Department of Education, get rid of virtue. You could probably eliminate a quarter of our public schools
Starting point is 01:32:15 and put that money elsewhere. You could fund students, not systems, all of this stuff. Well, it's a Rockefeller education system that's really an indoctrination system that all needs to go, in my opinion. But we do live in a very strange world where children can't get tattoos, they can't buy pay-per-view, but they could chop off their reproductive organs and they could watch online content. That really doesn't make sense. And we do see online content weaponized. It is destroying
Starting point is 01:32:39 children. It is destroying families. It is destroying relationships. It is having a severe effect where people are not having enough children. We're having a huge population crash that does deserve to be addressed very seriously. We should protect the children. But at the same time, I do not want a digital identification government federal system watching and telling me what I can and cannot do. So I think there's a fine line between the two. I think personal responsibility, homeschooling children, raising your children without a cell phone and teaching them that there is a lot of very bad people out there that prey on their weaknesses that psychologically lie to them and abuse them and hurt them in many ways where it's it's done subconsciously i i think is something that's going to be very tough but
Starting point is 01:33:19 something that's needed more than ever and as a parent you are responsible for your child and no one else is look you can be lazy and you can be a not great parent in a time when the system basically works, but in a time when the system doesn't work, and that's obviously, you know, where we're at, at a, at a, certainly at a national level, you just don't have that luxury anymore. And you have to get involved one way or another. Do you think you'll attempt to prevent the kids from getting cell phones? So try to push it as late as it's what i agree with tim and spirit on that like the the answer would be no i'm gonna keep them off forever but like you know you get you're gonna figure it i can tell you now like we basically we they're
Starting point is 01:33:54 only one i got two kids who are one we don't have any tv on ever but every now and again if we need a freaking break for five minutes we put on miss Miss Rachel on YouTube and she's doing better numbers than Timcast. This woman's killing it, okay? Now she's like the one that they say you could have them watch and she's not breaking their brain. Just be careful for the auto. No.
Starting point is 01:34:13 So the auto, what might auto play next? Sometimes I find, you know, an ad will kick in in the middle and it's an ad about like a shooting somewhere or something. There's all sorts of weird things related to that. Now I don't have YouTube kids, I don't think, so I'm doing it on a regular YouTube or whatever.
Starting point is 01:34:27 But the point is, all of that, it's all easy to say and the best you can do is the best you can do. Right, but Dave, you don't gotta worry about cell phones. By the time your kids... Yeah, it's gonna be lodged in their brain. Exactly, they're gonna be Neuralink, man. They're gonna be like, but Dad, John at school's got the Neuralink,
Starting point is 01:34:42 I want the Neuralink to play video games. Yeah, they're gonna print something out of their ass. Are you gonna get the Neuralink? Enough, games. Yeah, they're going to print something out of their ass. Are you going to get the Neuralink? Enough, enough. No. Just like a little bit of quiet, you know. Do you think you'd get it? No, I mean, again, it's one of those things.
Starting point is 01:34:53 It's like we can all say no to all these things. We can all say, boy, you know, the Matrix was a warning and I don't want to be in Ready Player One. But then it all comes and then a huge swath of people do it and then it becomes ubiquitous and everyone starts doing it. And then, yes, some people will kind of not do it um you'll have no choice i'm thinking if your kid or they'll force you on because if you're not in the system they will view you as a terrorist it's not that it's not that extreme it's going to be you're going to go to the uh
Starting point is 01:35:16 you're going to go to the new taco bell kiosk and they're going to say oh we got rid of touch interface it's on neural interface now and they'll be like well nobody uses touch interface anymore you're like so how do i use the kiosk well do you have a neural link like no that's all we do have you seen the ham thing at whole foods yes they have it already i saw it for the first time when we were flying out here in the airport at dca they have they had an amazon store and it was walk in and take whatever you want and you walk up you scan your hand walk in take whatever you want you walk out and i was like no thanks apartment buildings have that right now where if you want to get to your floor you have to give them a palm pair and then you you
Starting point is 01:35:47 know this leads to i mean this is like minority report where will will smith um tom cruise thank you tom cruise has to take the guy's eye to get through the thing like that's where this will all lead we're going to be chopping off people's hands so you could buy a fucking uh what do they sell it taco bell now jimmy gordita gordita crunch okay thank you this is exactly why i'm with what you're saying that i don't like the the the security state overlooking and banning porn and restricting this because if someone gets a hold of that apparatus it's like you know what showing elbows is pornography ban them all like that could happen if that infrastructure gets built the individual needs to decide what is right for them.
Starting point is 01:36:26 And clearly, there is a war against them that is destroying them in many different ways. How do you have that fine balance? I think we have to preach personal responsibility, but we also have to live it ourselves. So, good luck raising children. It's not going to be easy. A lot of people are having a lot of problems. So, best of luck to you. As, of course, we are already mind-controlled.
Starting point is 01:36:44 We are going to go to Super Chats. We're going to go to super chats and uh take your questions so smash that like button subscribe to the channel share the show and head over to timcast.com click join us become a member members only show will be kicking off in about 25 minutes and we've got some good spicy stuff to talk about tim can i do a 10 second fact check because i got to it yeah we were talking about before with the day DeSantis became governor. Democrats had 300,000 more registered voters in Florida. Republicans now have 500,000 more. So it's an 800,000 swing.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Do you know how many of those were people that switch parties versus how many people immigrated and emigrated? It's a great question. I don't know. But I would say we know nationally it is a large number of switches. Yeah. And we just had the Dallas mayor. I think it was Dallas, right? Oh, the Dallas mayorallas mayor yeah it was dallas it was dallas that's your
Starting point is 01:37:28 switch from democrat to republican all right let's grab some super chats we got culture abduction says first and any update oh first congratulations you are the first super chat any updates on the timcast app for apple no i'm looking to see if anybody in here who knows looking at the dog you're not seeing us everybody anyone from the crew is here they are not here uh it's in review apple is really hard to get yeah so all right what else do we have draxus storm shadow says every ballot should have a tear-off tab with serial number on it you should be able to take your serial number home and check a website to verify your vote was recorded properly. Or a receipt, right?
Starting point is 01:38:07 They don't do that? A lot of places do receipts. It's a state issue, though, so I certainly agree. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, imagine being so dumb you think a fire alarm is a door handle. Dems have gotten so used to lying, it comes naturally these days. Also, why do they care even about January 6th? It was just a prank bro i i i do love that idea that bowman it's it's no come on no one really believes that he thought it opened the door you never know i mean the iqs have been dropping i don't put anything
Starting point is 01:38:38 over the stupidity of the american people i suppose hanlon's razor right never attributed to malice which could be explained by stupidity. Although there's definitely some malice involved here. Right? You know, the question is, was he trying to shut down the vote or delay it? Either way, he should get a criminal charge for pulling a fire alarm, right?
Starting point is 01:38:57 Something. At least an acknowledgement. Moot point. Fire alarm. Does this open the door? Yeah. I don't think a judge would buy it. I think a judge would be like nice imagine a dude commits a crime imagine a guy's a kid in school does the trigger
Starting point is 01:39:10 make the bullet open the door your honor he's like nice try right bangs the gavel all right fix bayonet says matt gates should draft a bill as a joke that fully funds ukraine if the democrats drop all prosecutions of Donald Trump. Get Peter Zahan on to talk about graphene and hydrogen fuel cells. Oh, I like that guy. I didn't know he knew about that stuff. Let's do it. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:35 What is this? Amasang says, whatever happened to free Tibet? Yeah, I have no idea. I saw them everywhere. What's going on in Tibet? They're not existing. I know there's been Chinese oppression. What's going on in Tibet? They're they're not exist I know there's been Chinese oppression. Yeah, at least I'm actually just completely falling off the map. Yeah, nobody cares anymore. I have no idea Oh, I've been very busy at work. Yeah, see we just out of sight out of mind inflation
Starting point is 01:39:56 I don't know what to say. Jeffrey Kovar says did you guys see the US debt clock? Matthew 21 12 was posted dead center on the website earlier. Jesus is Lord. God bless Tim Kasten and crew. Was that a big deal? Wait, what? U.S. Debt Clock dot It's usdebtclock.org. It's a great website. And they posted front center Jesus is Lord or something? At least I saw a screenshot that said that. I don't know if it was real. It looked real.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Google it. What did you find? I'm going there now. I think a lot of people are going there right now. It's a.gov website? No,.org. Right, right, right. That's a private website. Yeah, it's somebody. And it looks like they've taken it down. Oh.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Well, just search the news. Don't search the actual website. Yeah, I saw a picture of it. I'll look for it. But, I mean, if people report on it, I guess. Here we go. Shane H. Wilder says, There are too many things slipped into omnibus bills.
Starting point is 01:40:47 MNSB2995 had a provision in the 909 page omnibus that legalized abortion up to birth, negated life saving care for born alive infants and ended informed consent. What? What was that? Was that the recent one? Because how would that like, how does that get through? That was what I was saying. They should have just like when the omnibus is being made, be like, oh, yeah, you know, just slide in one sheet of paper that says like Donald Trump is president. Right. Because nobody reads that shit anyway. The simplest way, if any of them wanted to fix anything, and this clearly would never happen, you want to solve something, the Republicans, and you want to get votes from a certain amount
Starting point is 01:41:16 of people. How about we cut taxes 25% on everybody and we cut the entire federal budget 25% on everybody and we cut foreign aid, like like literally 25 across the board and i'm sorry some post office workers i guess they're gonna have to go home and some other people but how about we just let people have more of their money isn't that the one that they never do the one that's the most obvious one how about you just stop spending money that you don't have just stop taking so much money from people and then we'll figure it out but that's the one that they can't quite get let's uh let's see what we got
Starting point is 01:41:51 luck uh lakuva tim could you ask the guys at public square about a feature to show content creators and social media users who share our values that is a very very good idea i think they mentioned something about that right i don't know uh we'll bring it up to him that would be really great i think there was talk of some social component as well uh and there should be yeah a way to interact with people um obviously i think there was talk of some social component as well. And there should be. Yeah, a way to interact with people. Obviously, I think there's reviews and comments already. So expanding, that would be great. But I think you might be able to just apply, to be honest. If you run a business that produces something, you probably should be able to sign up for Public Square.
Starting point is 01:42:18 That's what I did. I had to fill out an application for wearechange.shop for my vitamins. I put them on there. And, you know. But he means america i have american-made products but but they mean you personally for your youtube channel huh i think it's a good idea and i think they should do that yeah so you can find content creators who agree with american values i like public square guys download that app it's an excellent tool for winning the culture war. Where are we at? What is this?
Starting point is 01:42:47 JJ Rhodes, has anybody ever heard of the Zyde Door Church? Place is wilding? What is that? No. No idea, but thank you for the super chat. Lee Pagan says, in a 60 Minutes interview yesterday, Michael Lewis just revealed that SBF tried paying Trump $5 billion not to run in 2024. That true? Well, I heard that he made an offer for Trump not to run and that
Starting point is 01:43:11 they received a number that might have been $5 billion. They don't know who they received the number from, if it was from Trump directly, from someone he knew, if it was even a real offer, no one knows. But if you're Trump, you obviously think you're getting set up here. Yeah, okay, sure. What'll happen is you'll say yes, and then they'll publish a leaked message saying Trump took a payoff for $5 billion. That's like really, really federally dangerous. Like, I would say illegal.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Anyway, I don't want to go too deep on that. It happens every day in Washington, D.C., Ian. Every single day. All right, Tina Collette says, please explain how if we can't afford to fund our own country, how and why should we fund someone else's country? Oh, actually, I can answer this for you. The idea is as the BRICS nations attempt to supplant the petrodollar with the yuan or now they're doing their own BRICS currency, The U.S. needs to maintain confidence in the U.S. dollar. And how do they do that? By giving it away. Seriously. The reason why they give money
Starting point is 01:44:10 for like Pakistani gender studies is so that Pakistan is looking at a pile of cash. China comes over and says, hey, use ours instead. And they're like, look, if we keep using the U.S. dollars, we get free money. We get to be rich. These idiots keep printing it. Yeah. So the way it works is you get ripped off as a regular to be rich. These idiots keep printing it. Yeah, so the way it works is you get ripped off
Starting point is 01:44:25 as a regular working class person. The elites who run various countries agree to use the petrodollar, which maintains U.S. petrodollar supremacy. And that's why we're funding the war in Ukraine and giving money away. Well, that sucks.
Starting point is 01:44:38 There you go. Yeah, right. I agree with the MAGA method. I think that's a better way to do it. You secure your borders. You bring manufacturing back. You bolster the U.S. economy. And then you win through trade means.
Starting point is 01:44:47 And people are inspired to use your currency because your currency means something in this country. So what's the U.S. dollar good for? Coming to America is awesome and I want dollars to spend. So people will buy dollars from you instead of getting them for free. But the U.S. method is give them the money. Tell them to use it. They'll get to be rich. And if they don't, we'll come and remove their president.
Starting point is 01:45:04 That's the current method. not a big fan of that one all right deus flex says when is stick six and ammer coming on the show bring him on before he leaves the states again uh i have no idea i think we're trying to make it work it's just yeah do we have a date for him uh no yeah okay i't know. We were supposed to do that show in upstate New York a long, long time ago. It was me, you, we were driving up. I think we were going to Canada. Weren't we supposed to meet up with him in upstate New York? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:45:34 That was a long, long time ago. Stitch is one of the first people to use minds. Like celebrity, well-known video bloggers. That dude's tapped in. Let's grab some more Super Chats. John Jones says says taking the new bright line train from orlando to come see you guys in vice city can't wait for a fun time oh it's going to be so amazing yeah how amazing that florida built the bright line so now you can go from orlando all
Starting point is 01:45:57 the way down here to miami they're going to build another branch that's going to go from i think orlando to tampa like basically you're gonna it's a it. High-speed train. And they did it in basically no time. It's clean. It's new. It just launched. It just launched last week. I was going to take it yesterday, come back from Orlando,
Starting point is 01:46:10 but something popped up. But this is funny. All the things the leftists demanded, it's Trump and it's dissenters who have brought about, like when they've talked about, we want a four-day work week. We want better wages.
Starting point is 01:46:21 We want healthcare. Under Trump in 2019, there were all these news stories about fast food chains reducing the hours, increasing the pay, and giving benefits. And I'm like, well, the Republican president gave it to you. Now you've got all the leftists being like, where's the high-speed rail? It's like, well, you know, in Florida.
Starting point is 01:46:34 It's not in California, which how much did they put into that freaking thing? Like something like $3 billion? I think they spent the same amount of money building the rail here as they did putting up suicide nets around the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. I think it's comparable. That's probably true. That was $500 million I think. And I think we spent the same amount building here in Florida, the Orlando to Miami rail train.
Starting point is 01:46:54 I read $4 billion. Is that the number? $3 to $4 billion. Probably cheaper. I want to know what the California one has cost. I'm going to look that up. And if they don't have it. They don't have it. And they started before it. They have a Greyhound. Well, well you know at least all right antipathy says i agree with a sunday show caller that i would like to see a live show of timcast on rumble you had your excuses and i can't say that they aren't valid but why not solidarity stream uh solidarity is not as
Starting point is 01:47:24 important as victory i guess i don't know solidarity matters in a lot of ways but that's like saying leave the battlefield so you can go celebrate with people who are no longer on it you can think of it as a sort of decentralization because if something happens to rumble something happens to rumble but we we put all of our clips on rumble we use rumble infrastructure for timcast.com we use parallel economy for our timcast memberships it is all rumble cloud and then we just have the live show on youtube because it's the it's consistently the biggest every night and we want to get access to the generations the younger generations that use youtube and be in the central battlefield by the
Starting point is 01:47:58 way we didn't talk about this tonight you guys hear this canadian legislation they just jammed through where they want to like police any network that has any kind of what what's the terminology do you know the word well basically anyone who creates a YouTube channel I mean that's where it's really going it's gonna have to register with the Canadian government and then God only knows what once you register with them what they can do to you to shut you down Europe is passing similar legislation but CNBC has a very interesting article about California's high-speed rail and they're reporting that it's running out of money. And for 15 years that it's being built, there hasn't been a single mile of track laid from the rail in California.
Starting point is 01:48:33 And people are evil. And Gavin Newsom is going to be president. What a world. That's how corrupt the state is. You've got to watch out for it, Dave. You see, what happens is California takes off building this big empire, this entertainment industry, and they went there originally to get away from the oppression and the taxation. They said, we're going to go to the middle of nowhere where there's nothing and do our own thing.
Starting point is 01:48:52 That's typically how pioneers do it. Then once they got success and wealth, everyone else started crowding around saying, gimme. Florida is starting to do real well. Sooner or later, you're going to get a lot of people who are going to want to move in. They're going to say, gimme that. No, that's true. what a great challenge that is so now we have to be better than say california was once it completely you know california was it was a there was a guy named ronald reagan who was the governor of california right like there was a
Starting point is 01:49:15 california conservative i think 1992 was the last one uh that sounds about uh no no because schwarzenegger was a republican oh no no no, no. But yeah, I'm thinking presidential. But anyway, point is, yes, it's a challenge and it's a function of success, right? Like good times create weak men. And you guys know the thing. So it's like Florida will have that challenge. More people will come here and then you have to work harder to defend those rights and defend the good life, basically. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Triton54 says a Luke per day keeps the Seamus away. Damn right. We don't want that dirty potato man anywhere near here. Well, he's on his way over. Really? Yeah. Triton54 says, a Luke per day keeps the Seamus away. Damn right. We don't want that dirty potato man anywhere near here. Well, he's on his way over. Really? Yeah. Are you kidding me? No. Okay, good. Wait, no. You mean you're coming? No. He's coming to hang out. He's coming for you. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:57 He's coming. He's not welcome here. Yes, he is. We invited him. I'll deal with the potato man later. He called us and he was like i've got potatoes for luke and i was like come on man he messaged me too he was like you know let's finally do the show we were supposed to do it i'm like uh-huh i literally just texted him what we were supposed to do a show together and then he ditched on me last minute oh sounds like shamus so very disappointed but that was they were doing the potato festival just kidding
Starting point is 01:50:22 shamus no there was no potato festival i would have excused him doing a potato festival for not doing a show with me together. But but that's a different issue. Again, I'll be here. Expect some fireworks. Shamus Coghlan coming in hot. Yeah. All right. What do we got?
Starting point is 01:50:36 What is this? Corey? Corey USMC says working on my birthday, but I have some homegrown chicken tenders and Timcast IRL. Happy birthday. And that sounds amazing. Homegrown chicken tenders in TimCast IRL. Happy birthday, and that sounds amazing. Homegrown chicken tenders. Yeah, amazing. I've got a video I recorded today
Starting point is 01:50:51 about a rooster named Andre. I saw that. About what it means to be a man. Andre gave it all. Andre, I tweeted about this, he was a rooster who sacrificed himself fighting off a raccoon to save his hens. How many you got now? Uh, too many. 30? sacrificed himself fighting off a raccoon to save his hens. How many you got now? Too many.
Starting point is 01:51:07 30? More than that. But at two different locations now, so probably like, I think, 90. Do you guys have chickens? We had three backyard chickens. I had Blanche Featherow, Princess Leia, and who's my third chicken? Is it Kim Kardashian? We nailed it with the names. We have Margaret Hatcher.
Starting point is 01:51:26 That's good. That's pretty good. Feather Locklear. That was another one. We just gave only the original chickens that we got. Man, it's crazy. We got seven, and now we have an obscene amount. Roberto, the original rooster, his son died.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Roberto had a heart attack and died suddenly. We don't know what happened. But Roberto Jr. had several kids kids so now we have uh rp3 roberto junior roberto iii yeah nice and uh it's unfortunate because we're gonna let them uh use phones or what no no too young in fact we're actually quite concerned they are making more of themselves and would like them to stop but they've started doing that you know we didn't incubate a bunch but now they've started taking it upon themselves to make more of themselves and we're not we're not too too fond of that because life finds a way dude too many jurassic park i mean it is really amazing when one day you go in there and you hear cheeping and then there's like a
Starting point is 01:52:14 you know chicken sitting there all flat and like looking at you and yelling at you and there's babies it's wonderful and then they walk around they follow the mom and they're eating you do know what happens to an egg under the right circumstances it can become a chicken it's that's good it does yeah it's great yeah uh and when you can you can you can eat them you see at this period where you can eat them in the egg or you gotta wait you know what like nine months after the egg but there's that period where you can't some people eat the the raw baby chicken not raw not raw i don't know you ferment it they take the egg when the chicks fully developed they vinegar it and then bury it in the ground and then wait a month and then eat it
Starting point is 01:52:48 rotten or whatever. Baloo, yeah. In the Philippines, they do it all the time. What is it called? Baloo? Baloo. Baloo, yep. Yeah, but I was reading something about people in the Arctic Circle eat a lot of rotten meat because the meat itself doesn't have enough nutrients, but the bacteria festers on it and produces more of the
Starting point is 01:53:03 things you need and then you eat it rotten. It's better for you. I don't know if that's true. I don't know. But that's something to do with why they do stuff like that. Here we go. What is this one? Lurch says BDS is banned in government work, hardly 1A friendly.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Oh, that's in Florida, right? What was the deal with that? I think there was a banning of criticism of israel on college campuses which i think it's a i think it's like an oversimplification of what it actually exactly yeah but but there was very you know that is very troubling legislation there also is uh red flag i don't think it was criticism of israel i think it was companies that were singling out israel that they were boycotting israel yeah so so yeah but but still to me i i don't like that i don't like the red flag laws i i think we should also criticize the state and uh try to make it as best as we can all right dick dickerson says sorry luke florida isn't the alamo my free state of missouri does more for freedom i don't know about that moving in maybe we don't pay enough attention to missouri i i could concede that you don't talk about me i don't know about that they in maybe we don't pay enough attention to missouri
Starting point is 01:54:05 i i could concede that you don't talk about me i don't know about that they arrested the mccloskey's yep oh right yeah and st louis and then he ran for senate i guess that didn't work out oh yeah yeah yeah well there you go all right dinner mint says hey tim i love your show i work for a company that will be starting a coffee and soda shop in Arizona. I know the owner very well. It's possible for me to connect you through Discord. Yes, by all means. And, you know, a couple of things we want to do. Obviously, we're getting started with the launching the first coffee shop,
Starting point is 01:54:35 then setting up the corporation and doing the paperwork to properly franchise it. But we also want to distribute. We could have, you know, stores carry Casper coffee and whatever, if not setting up your own when we are able to. There we go. Let's grab some more Super Chats. What is this? What is this?
Starting point is 01:54:55 Someone yelling about Luke. I don't know what they're saying. They're just saying, I just joined Luke. Hi, it's me. Not that it means anything. Hi, Ian. Hi. All right, Ryan Job.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Thanks for the Super Chat. Thanks, Ryan. Hi, Ian. Hi. All right, Ryan Job. Thanks for the super chat. Thanks, Ryan. Hey, Ryan. Steven says, says, Madison Cawthorn exposed Kevin McCommie two years ago and look what they did to him. Really?
Starting point is 01:55:13 What did he do? With McCarthy. With McCarthy? I don't know. I remember he did that whole thing about it. They're all having coked up orgies. Oh, is that what he's talking about? I don't know that he mentioned McCarthy specifically.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I want to talk to Kevin because you've said you've interviewed him a couple times, excuse me, Hope, because I get the vibe of the Trudeau vibe from him lately. Like he's talking like this. Oh, his affect's a little bizarrely soft or something, but I can tell you, yeah, it's a little bit of Cali. From the way, I mean, from interviewing him, like my gut sense with him is he's just trying
Starting point is 01:55:44 on the margins, it's just not the most brave thing, with him is he's just trying on the margins. It's just not the most brave thing, but he thinks he's trying to do something. I don't think when people are just like, ah, he's just an evil sellout. I just think it's too easy to do that. The guy is, he wants, from what I could tell, he kind of wants to live in the same country we all want to live.
Starting point is 01:55:58 He's trying to do what he can on the margins. Maybe it's not good enough. Maybe it's completely ineffectual. But I don't think he's the worst of the worst in that sense. What do we got? Steve Wanamaker says, can we discuss the fact that all Chase debit cards aren't working and online accounts are not showing balances? I don't understand how this isn't a bigger story.
Starting point is 01:56:18 People are stuck on grocery store lines. For real? Is that happening right now? I have not. I haven't heard it. I haven't seen it. I don't use Chase. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:23 They just had to pay a fine over helping Epstein. Was that what it was? Yeah. Yeah. So maybe I won't. There's no money left. Maybe I won't use that bank anymore and I'll avoid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Wouldn't that be something, though, if that's actually a story and none of us have heard of it? And they also punished a lot of people for their political beliefs and expressions and they shut down people's bank accounts. They shut down some bank accounts. So, yeah, don't banquet JPMorgan and Chase if you don't have to. This is a Chase Bank customers report account glitches again from seven hours ago, but this is thinkadvisor.com.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Interesting. Clint Torres says, howdy, people. Sorry I'm late, but I got stuck in my zipper. Uh-oh. Ian, looking good, bro. Luke, a true Florida man, has a mullet, but Mr. Dave gets a pass because he's too stylish for that stuff. Mr. Dave, can I please
Starting point is 01:57:06 get a I agree? I agree. Well, Seamus will be here. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. Wait, what was it? Freedom Tunes, right? That's the Freedom Tunes guy. Yeah, that's Seamus. Yeah, that was a long time ago. What a world. What a world. Are you less agreeable now?
Starting point is 01:57:22 I think so. I'd like to think so. I didn't even think i was that agreeable then it was just one of those things that just became a thing you know i was listening to people talk but but it wasn't real and what seamus said was it was just one time i think what he said was he heard you say i agree and thought you said an interesting way so he wanted to say it a lot oh oh that's good to know yeah you know it's funny people when that thing first went crazy people were like dave are you upset and And I was like, are you crazy? Like, like, first off, I love all these people.
Starting point is 01:57:47 This thing is about my show. It means that we've done something, even if it's partly making fun of me or they think I'm too soft of an interview or whatever. I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. It's like, it's great. I did. I did some other thing with him after that. I forget what it was.
Starting point is 01:58:00 If Seamus made a joke about Rick Williams, who said, that's my mom. Nobody would click it. Nobody would care. And they'd be like, I don't know. What is this? The fact that everybody knew you and understood the references. I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:16 I don't know if people tell you a lot, but you kicked the door open on this stuff like early, like 2017, you, Peterson, Brett Weinsteininstein like the idw whatever has happened in drama crap like you guys fucking grabbed it and shredded it i'll tell you i spoke to brett weinstein while driving over here today i'm as good as ever with jp i'm gonna do his art conference in london at the end of the month a few of the guys have stayed sane you know sam harris kind of went off the deep end and some of the others kind of kind of lost it um but yeah i mean i was just kind of went off the deep end and some of the others kind of kind of lost it. But yeah, I mean, I was just kind of early on trying to make sense. We have no people trying to make sense.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And that's all I was really trying to do. And I guess now we're in a major sense deficit. So it's come around. Thomas TJG says I'm in California. They allow them to vote. There are areas where they hand out CIDs and phones, allowing them to register to vote. Send journalists in Hemet and Atalanto area. You'll find them real quick. Just drive around.
Starting point is 01:59:11 You know, you remember Colin Moriarty? Do you know Colin? Yeah, Colin, he moved to Virginia, got the hell out of Cali. And he was getting, I think, for several years, voter ID, you know, to vote ballots in Virginia, to vote in California. Like, how much more do you need to know? They're literally sending them out of state for people who have left California. Yep. Like crazy. Yep. There was that famous, it was that Fox News story where a dude was from, I think, what is it, from Tennessee or from Arizona. He was like, he was like from Tennessee in Arizona. And then they sent a mail-in vote to his house. They claimed he voted.
Starting point is 01:59:46 And he was like, I'm not there. I'm in college. I'm states away. Makes you wonder, man. Makes you wonder. Can I read one? Yes. The Mick Gloon Code says, Dave and Tim, if you each buy a new chicken, you could name them Tim Poultry and Dave Ruben. Ruben.
Starting point is 02:00:04 I'm going to get chickens when I get chickens. Those will be the first chickens when I get them. That's pretty good. That's got to be a rooster. You got to be two roosters. Yeah, that's right. You know, now it's trendy to change genders. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Roosters actually don't really fight. It's like a myth. So we've got Cocktown. I was going to say, there's a cock joke here. Go for it. Well, you know, it's just we got Chicken City and we got Cock cocktown cocktown is where we put all the extra roosters because we you know i want to eat them but my brother doesn't want to eat them so we just don't but uh they they do fight sometimes but mostly just get along it's when you if you take a bunch of roosters and put
Starting point is 02:00:36 a girl in there then they fight to the death just like real life those i don't know that they still do it but like that collection of losers that was always making videos about me and you they're gonna totally they're gonna totally grab that one. Tim Pool wants to eat in Cocktown or whatever. Well, I mean, I'm waiting to pick a joke here. I welcome them to do it. You know, in Times Square, we put up a 95-foot-tall picture of my cock
Starting point is 02:00:56 on one of the biggest... Beautiful cock. Roberto Jr. Yes, no, no. I'm familiar with the internet. We really did put Roberto Jr. on a 95-foot-tall billboard in Times Square. And you want to ban that shit on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Really makes you wonder. It's a rooster day. Yes, I got it, I got it. I don't want to ban roosters. In fact, I strongly encourage people to get more roosters. In fact, I think people should tell the story of Andre the rooster
Starting point is 02:01:20 to their children to inspire them to be courageous and to understand the value of sacrifice that's right yeah but that video i recorded today it's going to be up on friday and it's how to be a man you gotta learn from a rooster all right uh the mcglone said code says tim or dave here's a pair of chicken names for you. John Lenhen and Yolko Ono. It's hard to follow the other one because it was personalized, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Ponyup says, get Colin Moriarty on the show. I think we were trying to book him a while ago. He never did. Well, yeah. All right, everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,
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Starting point is 02:02:29 Three masterclasses for them. Members only shirt and an in real life meetup this October 8th, 4 p.m. here in South Florida. Only for members. Lucanfilter.com. Ian, give us some words of inspiration with your personal health journey. Drink more water, drink water when you wake up in the morning.
Starting point is 02:02:47 And if you got to pee or poop, do it. Don't wait. Your body doesn't know. It just start to hurt if you don't do it. So let it out. Good night, everybody.
Starting point is 02:02:54 See you later. It's been a pleasure hanging with you, Florida men. All right. Always a pleasure. Sir. Sure. I guess we'll just,
Starting point is 02:03:01 we'll wrap. I don't know if you have a mic set up. Yeah, I do. I just want to mute. Cause there's a lot of echo in here. Uh, Luke, you should work on that. Splurge. I don't know if you even have a mic set up. Yeah, I do. I just want to mute because there's a lot of echo in here. Luke, you should work on that. Anyways, it was good. Appreciate meeting you, Dave.
Starting point is 02:03:10 Thanks very much. Right on. Yeah. All right, everybody. We will see you all over at TimCast.com in a couple minutes. Thanks for hanging out. you you

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