Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #877 LIVE from Miami w/ Matt Gaetz, Patrick Bet-David, James O’Keefe, and more

Episode Date: October 7, 2023

TIMCAST IRL LIVE FROM MIAMI! Tim, Ian, & Luke join Matt Gaetz, Patrick Bet-David, James O'keefe, and many more amazing guests in a special star-studded episode of Timcast IRL. Learn more about your ad... choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more. Make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun, and make same-day withdrawals if you win.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. I want to say thank you to Public Square. This event is sponsored by Public Square. If you guys want to help win the culture war and support businesses that support our values,
Starting point is 00:01:03 download the Public Square app. Check out businesses in your area. I really do mean it. When I first met Michael and learned about the project, I'll give you an example of how amazing the idea is. When Carl Benjamin came on the show and said, what's your plan? What's your plan to organize? And I said, Public Square has an app where you can support all the businesses that support your values. And he went, oh, actually, yeah, that's a really good idea. So this is a major effort in organizing these boycotts and our economic power to build a parallel economy and just say, fuck off to these awful companies that hate our values. So that being said, I'm very excited. I'm honored to have these amazing men with me on stage. It
Starting point is 00:01:46 really is surreal to me for all of you to be here. It's an incredible feeling. And with all the amazing work everyone here is doing, especially in the past couple of weeks, we've seen history made thanks to the efforts of Congressman Matt Gaetz challenging the establishment. When we were driving back from dinner, and Luke is in the back of the car, and he goes, Kevin McCarthy was just removed. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I'm not saying, where are you seeing that? Where are you seeing that? And he's like, no, it happened. And then we see the video that it's done. For the first time in history, Matt has... It's a stake in the heart of the vampire. It's the corporate lobbyist. It's the machine. 82%, according to Gallup in the latest poll, disapprove of what Congress does.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And these members of Congress are just like, eh, we'll keep doing what we're doing. Apparently that's working. It's working for them, but it's not for us, so... Amazing work, man. Thank you. I guess the question is, you know, man. Thank you. I guess the question is, you know, what next?
Starting point is 00:02:52 If you, I don't want to, you know, also, we've got a bunch of other amazing individuals on the stage as well. And I also want to mention, we had James O'Keefe on the Culture War podcast this morning. That's right, that's right. And James was served a cease and desist within an hour of the show wrapping. It's not a joke.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I get sued a lot. So what next? How's it going, guys? Yeah, who's gonna be the next speaker? What are we up against? What do we do? I, uh, first let me just say the last time I was in a room with hundreds of people, they did not like me as much. So it is good to be home in the great state of Florida. Last time I was in a room with hundreds of people, they did not like me as much.
Starting point is 00:03:28 It is good to be home in the great state of Florida. So I wish we didn't have to come to this. I wish we would have a budget, but there is a reason the actions in Washington, D.C. are hollowing out the soul of this country, because there's a reason the actions in Washington, D.C. are hollowing out the soul of this country, because there has been an exquisite system designed where no one is really responsible for the spending or the efficacy or even the value that government action has in all of your lives, because since the mid-'90s, we have been governed by either our omnibus spending bill or continuing resolution, which is just a fancy way to say one up-or-down vote
Starting point is 00:04:11 on how the entire government runs. And they design it so that they back people up against shutdown politics and the fear that veterans might not get benefits or the military might not get paid. And then they use that centralized power to really feed an ecosystem and an economy of corruption. And here's how it works.
Starting point is 00:04:33 If you can get the smallest group of people to be able to dictate the largest number of outcomes, then the special interests can go and buy those people off and put their priorities above what would be best for the American people. And it happens time and time again. And it is the reason we sit atop a $33 trillion debt. And what does that mean for families? Right now, the average American family is spending $700 more every month for the exact same goods and services that you got last year. And in 99% of American counties, the average income will not support home ownership. So this debt that government has built supporting non-efficacious programs, programs that don't even get reviewed, they just get reauthorized and increased and sent
Starting point is 00:05:19 on down the road, that what that's costing us is an ownership society where we own our land and our homes and the choices that we make about our own health care and the choices we make about where our kids go to school. They want to take ownership away and make everyone more and more reliant on a system that is less and less valuable. And so while there's much work to do, and I'm sure we'll talk about that this evening, I know this. I disrupted at least a billion-dollar corrupt economy of political favors. And here's how. Kevin McCarthy has raised like a billion dollars in special interest money.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It is a remarkable feat. But the only way you really get to pay back the favors is through these bills that are thousands of pages and cover all these areas where there's no individual scrutiny. Because if you're the right lobbyist that's given the millions of dollars, the hundreds of thousands of dollars, well, then maybe you can count on the fact
Starting point is 00:06:21 that your program will be saved, that there won't be anything that'll really get in the way of its continued life indefinitely. And now on K Street, where all the lobbyists have their offices in Washington, D.C., people are holding a billion dollars worth of IOUs that are worth about as much as Confederate money when Lee surrendered the sword at Appomattox Courthouse. So that's, man, it's been an amazing week. I mean, I come back and I'm just like, what a good day. What a good day to see the beast groaning in agony. But to be honest, Tim kind of slapped the roof of the car and said, fuck yeah. That's true, I did. I was laughing.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I was maniacally laughing. I was like the Joker in that car, just with excitement. Because it's history. And beyond just what we're seeing with your fight in Congress, it feels to me, and I assume it feels to a lot of people, that for the longest time, we have tried to be active in our civic duties. We have tried to voice and express our opinions. But every single time, it turns out that the people who tell us they're going to bring us hope or change end up getting in, joining the machine, and then leaving us behind. And it's like we're not saying anything at all.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And so part of, I think, what creates this ecosystem of independent podcasters, activists, speakers, and what ignited so many people behind Donald Trump was that finally we're starting to hear people who, as Michael Moore said rather accurately, represented a human Molotov cocktail into a system that we were sick and tired of. Now, of course, the system doesn't like it when we throw Molotov cocktails. Figuratively, I'm referring to, we're not Antifa here. They don't like it when we throw that through their windows. And so we end up seeing recoiling of the machine of the special interests. Matt, you posted a photo of yourself over Keanu Reeves' head with all the guns pointed at you. And to throw it to James O'Keefe as well, this guy's been sued,
Starting point is 00:08:19 you know, more times than I have birthdays. They're coming after us. So I suppose my question, just to anybody who wants to jump in, is what's the bigger picture that we're up against right now? We all have these different individual fights, but what's the bigger picture, I guess? I think it's like our nation, our consciousness has like a parasite. So I don't want to destroy it. We'd have to somehow extricate the parasite without harming the host. Maybe, I think hydrogen fuels the way. You know, maybe graphene. People have heard about that.
Starting point is 00:08:51 He had to do it. He had to do it. And I'm serious. The first half of that statement was absolutely perfect. Like, this country has a parasite that must be removed without killing the host. And I'm like, yes. Oh, maybe it's sound vibration that'll kill the parasite. Let's write a song, James.
Starting point is 00:09:05 We like the Constitution. We like the principles of this country. And there is an occupying force.'ll kill the parasite. Okay. Let's write a song, James. We like the Constitution. We like the principles of this country, and there is an occupying force. There's a parasite within it. How do we get it out without destroying ourselves? I guess I got a question, if I may. Matt, I got a question for you. So for me, an outsider, more from a guy that's a businessman, entrepreneur, I've been in that world for the last
Starting point is 00:09:25 20 some years. Last few years, obviously, I have a lot of interest in politics because I see what's going on to the greatest nation in the world. I want to do my part to protect it for the four kids that I have. What kind of progress did we make with what happened with McCarthy? So, for example, when you first said, you got up and said, this guy didn't keep the promises he told me he was going to keep. He didn't do this didn't do that he didn't do this the 33 trillion dollars of debt did you actually think your influence was going to be the first time for him to get fired did you think that was going to happen or were you like oh shit this actually happened oh my god i didn't want it to be this bad i just wanted to scare him but no it actually became
Starting point is 00:10:03 a reality what were you thinking when you first pushed it? I've been a bit despondent my last few years in Congress because it feels like no matter how much we make the witnesses look like fools in hearings, they still get the money to turn large features of government against the American people. So I've come to believe that it's all about the money. It's about what you'll pay for and what you won't.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And it's not about just kind of browbeating people into submission with really elaborate committee hearings. And in Washington, there's an ethic that you don't really have to keep your promises about the money because no one really means it. We've designed a system where the president can blame the Congress, the Congress can blame the OMB director, the Senate and the House can blame each Congress, the Congress can blame the OMB director,
Starting point is 00:10:45 the Senate and the House can blame each other, we can all blame the bureaucrats, and at the end of the day everyone gets reelected, the debt grows, and it's just kind of a wink and a smile. And in January, we did organize a core group of people to say this has to be different. And then we went around the country, I went on your show and said this this is how it's going to be different. We're going to do a budget and then single subject spending bills that address one thing at a time, not every disparate agency of government at once. And we're going to have like the government spending increased 40 percent during COVID. So we want to go back to pre-COVID spending levels on like non-defense discretionary spending
Starting point is 00:11:25 at a minimum to get the ball rolling and get momentum for other broad. Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more. Make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario....deeper cuts. And when McCarthy sent us home for six weeks without a budget, when we knew we were going to be pushed up against a deadline with just yet another continuing resolution advancing Joe Biden's spending and Nancy Pelosi's priorities, I said, we can't do that anymore. We at least have to show
Starting point is 00:12:45 that there's a consequence to breaking your promises about spending, even if only one time and even if only for one man. So I think that is an end unto itself. But now the job is not over. This is not the time to uncork the champagne and pat ourselves on the back. We have to get someone in that office who will deliver on those precise commitments. And then we have to demand that the Senate negotiate with us not in the context of all these agencies smushed together, but each of them having to stand on their own merits. So I wouldn't say that the deliverable is more than the shock to the system that Tim described. But I do think that there is a way to govern that, frankly, I would hope would outlast Republican control of the House
Starting point is 00:13:31 of Representatives. Like when the Democrats take over, which they inevitably will at some point in the waxing and waning of politics, why wouldn't you want a system where people have to take votes and be held accountable no matter who's in charge. That's how we ultimately win. Last night, as I was going to bed, I walked to the window and I pulled up the blinds and I looked up to the sky at the first star, and I wished as hard as a human can wish that Donald Trump would be Speaker of the House. Was it a shooting star? It wasn't, so I don't know if it counts doesn't count but no i were just you were just a man with a hope with a hope because i because uh it's it's you know you know trump represents a lot of this this energy of finally people who felt disenfranchised having
Starting point is 00:14:19 someone fight for them i've heard that so much the the first several trump rallies i went to when he was running back in 2015 and 16 i met so many many people who said, I'm not a Republican, I'm not political, I've never voted before. And a lot of what was being expressed to me by younger people who were voting for him was, it finally feels like someone's speaking to me. And it's funny because I remember that during Obama, all these young kids in Chicago were like, he's like me, he's hoping he's changed. Then he went and blew up a bunch of kids. And I'm like, yeah, okay, I don't know about all that. So when Trump came around the first time, I'm like, yeah, I've heard it all before, you know, kid.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And then come 2020, I'm like, I think I'm going to vote for this guy. And now I know it's kind of silly to expect Trump to be Speaker of the House, but it's just, aside from it being very entertaining. Getting the votes of people who voted to impeach him will be a difficult political challenge. That's why I said I wished on a star.
Starting point is 00:15:04 It's not like it's going to happen. What about Jim Jordan? He seems like the favorite. Yeah, I would say, you know, Jim's a solid guy. I think he would do a great job as Speaker. I don't think there would be a single Republican in America who would have McCarthy nostalgia if we had a Speaker Jim Jordan.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Do you think there's resistance to single-subject spending bills? Obviously, because they slip things into the omnibus.'s resistance they don't want to be found but that it's going to take too long for 435 people to read those it's just impossible literally impossible but it's not because in almost every state in the country it happens i've been in the florida legislature i am not looking at a mirage every year we had a nine-week session. We figured out how much money the state was bringing in based on how many folks had visited or spent money here
Starting point is 00:15:52 with our no-income tax and our sales tax-based economy. And then we would... Just a little pitch for the Sunshine State. And then we would appropriate to the agencies pursuant to that top line budget amount. And that's how most states do it. But in Washington, because there's no balanced budget requirement, there's no reason to have any backstop to the spending.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And there are real impacts of this when combined with what I believe is overuse of a sanctions regime, right? So look at what's happening globally right now. You have Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa building their system to pull the global economy away from the dollar. They've added six new countries in August, including the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Iran, even Argentina, a G20 economy here in the Western Hemisphere. You've got U.S. news saying that in 2023, the number one global economic trend is de-dollarization. And then the way that we choose to execute foreign policy is by telling
Starting point is 00:16:51 people that they can't use the dollar. Meanwhile, we have to print 2.2 trillion more of them every single year to fund a government that a lot of people are questioning more and more with good reason and that is not having to stand for any type of itemized specific review. This is the path we are on. And so when all these mainstream media folks say that, I'm extreme and right wing and hard line, they never want to deal with the facts that are irrefutable,
Starting point is 00:17:22 and they will mean an entire generation of Americans will own nothing. As Bannon says, you'll be Russian serfs your whole life, unable to have the American experience that we deserve. Well, I just want to add that people don't understand how much trouble we are going to be having very soon, especially here in the United States. We have a political system that benefits from fear and ignorance, and it perpetrates both. We're dealing with such a corrupt system that they can't find who left cocaine in the White House. They can't find who was on the Epstein client list. They can't find the surveillance footage of what hit the Pentagon. They can't do a placebo
Starting point is 00:17:58 study on the vaccines. They can't do any of that. But if Lauren Burburt is in the crowd, you bet that there's probably an HD surveillance camera watching her right now. And if she is sitting here, let me know. I kind of want to move my chairs. But without that, how do we deal with this? Because the system is so corrupt that I believe it left Donald Trump ineffective in so many ways. How do we fix this problem without just voting once every four years? What's the solution here? Yeah, maybe we could ask somebody with experience what it's like to have the people that you've hired turn against you. Oh, yeah. I just want to add one quick thing. Since we don't have Trump, I wonder if there's anyone else that might have that experience. Luke, they can do those things. They're pretending they can't,
Starting point is 00:18:36 and they're intentionally lying to us. Of course. Yeah, I just have to say it, but James. Well, you know, Tim, yes, we have that in common. I'm on my way here to Miami late last night, and I'm going to the airport, I'm exhausted, and I get to the TSA story I told this morning to Tim, and the TSA agent looks at my ID, and he looks at me. There's always that weird moment where I'm not sure, I'm sure, do they hate me or do they really like me? And he looks at my ID, he looks at me and he goes,
Starting point is 00:19:08 they haven't killed you yet. No. And then... Which way was he rooting? And then always, always the whisper, I'm a huge fan. And then I say, why are you whispering? And Tim made the point this morning which is I thought
Starting point is 00:19:26 was profound is the response that I should have gave was no no not coming after me they're coming after you yeah because I have an audience you know I have two you know two million Twitter followers and luckily supporters like you guys and I have a platform and Trump is in many ways to borrow a business metaphor, he's almost like he's too big to fail. I mean, he's Horatius at the bridge. I mean, I saw Letitia James staring at him in the courtroom. I don't know if you remember that image of Letitia looking at him,
Starting point is 00:19:57 the Attorney General in New York. I mean, he represents something. But it's the people that don't have the following. It's the anonymous people that they're going to come after. People have to wake up to that. A lesson we learned from Twitter, when we were all talking about these high profile individuals who are getting banned, I'm getting messages every day and meeting people at events who said, I was banned a long time ago. And for why? I don't know. No reason. What they were doing was they were eliminating anyone from
Starting point is 00:20:23 the grassroots, from the ground, who had a couple hundred followers, who would express an opinion. I'm talking people, I'm not even talking like learn to code, I'm saying people who would say something like, you know, I'm going to vote for Trump, banned instantly. Why? Because these people did not have the ability to go to the press and raise a big stink about it. And so it's actually much more difficult to go after a higher profile person than a regular person. So when I hear this story about a guy saying they haven't killed you yet, I'm like, look, Trump said they're not coming after me. They're coming after you.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm just in the way. He is completely correct. And in the meantime, you look at what the IRS is doing. You look at what they're doing to pro-life activists. They every day are targeting regular Americans. Now we know that the FBI is targeting Trump followers as extremists. Yeah, I mean, they're coming after Trump for sure because he won't stop. You know, I think a solution like Luke, you asked the question, what's the solution when the federal government's become so corrupt? And I think it's strengthening of the local economies,
Starting point is 00:21:16 things like what Public Square is doing, not only creating local businesses, but organizing local businesses. Because if the economy goes to shit, I can trade you bananas for your apples on Public Square, something like that. but patrick you're basically a local you know businessman of your of your own what is your concern about like the bank for international settlements shutting off your bank account if you're working it from the economic fact uh factor yeah for me the concern is more you know like right now if you look at the gallop poll that came out this week saying who americans trust to take care of the economy more i don you know, like right now, if you look at the Gallup poll that came out this week, saying who Americans trust to take care of the economy more.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I don't know if you saw that or not. It was Republicans 53 to Democrats 39. We've got a 14-point lead. If you look at military, the Americans trust Republicans more. But do Republicans look united right now after this week? That's my question. Oh, give us a week. I mean, everybody's like, this whole chaos narrative, right?
Starting point is 00:22:07 This whole theory, Gates is a chaos agent. How will we ever get over this? We might have to take a few extra votes, a few bad headlines. You know, Wednesday, the day that we had the vote on the motion to vacate, the two other votes we had,
Starting point is 00:22:23 one was a vote about the rules that we were going to undertake to take another vote, and one was whether or not we were going to take a vote on the rules that we were going to undertake on a subsequent vote. Those were the only other two votes we took that day. The only two votes that we took the day before, renaming post offices.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So you have a government in legislative bodies that perform failure theater in front of you. And if they do so for the sake of unity, you're not actually being served. If we go put some messaging bill that is never going to become law, but can get every Republican vote, that's going to die in the Senate, that occupies the floor time, that lets everybody send press releases. It is failure theater. And it's really offensive because there's a willingness to oversee American decline that is fundamentally unpatriotic. We walk every day under the murals of George Washington crossing the Delaware River, and we have a lot of colleagues who won't even have the guts to cross a lobbyist that gave him a $2,000 check. So in 2022,
Starting point is 00:23:35 Republicans just narrowly won the majority. And there was a sigh of relief. People's hearts sank. They were like, I thought it was going to be a red wave. And we were going to, there was going to be a rebuke of the wokeness of the failed policy of the Biden administration. And it only came a little bit. And boy, did they insult Donald Trump over this saying Trump is the reason it happened. He spiked it. Republicans are lucky to have won what little bit they did. And it's okay. Okay. Well, Republicans got it. Are we going to start to see these investigations? Are we going to start to see control of the budget more properly done?
Starting point is 00:24:05 And then what happens? I find out that Kevin McCarthy is cutting backroom deals behind the backs of Republicans. So when I see the polls showing that Republicans are doing well, I then think to myself, oh, well, fat load of good that's going to do when they just go cut deals with Democrats anyway. So I don't see it. What's the value of a unified Republican Party that won't fight for you? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It feels like they didn't win at all. And so when we see the polls where it's like Republicans are viewed more favorably economically and militarily and Donald Trump's winning in the polls, I'm like, it is good. I do want Trump to win in 2024. But if the same Republican party wins in 2024 in Congress, that's really just the Democratic party. It's just going to go behind the backs of the people who actually won the majority. It pisses me off.
Starting point is 00:24:46 But why are they so similar? It's because both parties are working for the same special interests. You know, Big Pharma isn't just giving checks to one side or the other. The military-industrial complex is not just writing checks to Republicans. You have the major interests that control this country then just utilize the parties to be their valets. And being a little bit better of a valet or the lead valet as opposed to the secondary valet is just not a game I want to win.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Donald Trump in the White House, he is not the creator of everything we see in the culture war, in our politics. He is an avatar of the anger of so many people. And you know what? When Donald Trump won in 2016, it was just the presidency. Meanwhile, Congress was still establishment. The Supreme Court was still establishment. And even right now, even with Trump's nominees, you still get a bit of that establishment. Thomas and Alito are pretty good. We're now seeing MAGA in Congress. And when they say the Republican Party is not unified, I'm like, good.
Starting point is 00:25:45 It means there's some people who are actually representing me, at least, even if it is only a small handful of people. You know, when we were unified, when we passed the Patriot Act, you know, when we were unified, when we went to war in Iraq, you know, when we were unified, when, you know, when, when we were willing to take people's liberties away during COVID, you know, when we were unified, when we were printing money for extra COVID spending, unity has brought some of the worst results. We need dissent.
Starting point is 00:26:10 We need the opportunity for people to make a counter argument and then have the best ideas rise to the top. I actually don't disagree with what you're saying there because I don't know if you guys have read Musk's recent book. It's a phenomenal book to read, Walter Isaacson. One of the things he said, we had a culture that if you work with them, he said he's not a fan of camaraderie because
Starting point is 00:26:29 camaraderie prevents people from calling out each other's bullshit. So it kind of validates what you're saying. I'm with it. That's not what I'm, I know the enemy is the establishment. I fully understand it, but I also think we have to kind of get in to be able to impose the philosophies and ideas that we have. So going back to the question I was asking you, did you actually think you were going to get him to be the first to get fired? Did you actually think that was going to happen? Or were you like,
Starting point is 00:26:53 look, I'm just trying to scare the crap out of him because he made a promise to me. Or are you like, no, we're getting rid of him. I'd made an exorcism. Discover the magic of bed.
Starting point is 00:27:00 MGM casino, where the excitement is always on deck, pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption,
Starting point is 00:27:22 UFC Gold Blitz, and more. Make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun, and make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly.
Starting point is 00:27:42 If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. The decision that I wasn't going to own him anymore. That there were a group of us that was large enough where if we weren't going to vote for him, one of two things was going to happen. The Democrats were going to own him or he was not going to be the speaker anymore. And I was actually okay with either one of those results because either is illuminating and either creates opportunity. So I had no foresight as to how the Democrats were going to act. I kind of had a feeling they were going to
Starting point is 00:28:16 resent the fact that he lied to them just like he lied to us. But I, you know, I went out pretty publicly in a number of interviews and just said, we're going to file the motion to vacate. We got enough Republican votes where he won't stay the Republican speaker. You guys either adopt him or ditch him. But either way. And I'm not I'm not so sure it matters. Unity, when it comes to electoral politics, either you're going to have people in their districts communicating and looking towards their single member of Congress. And there may be a rhino,
Starting point is 00:28:46 as people would describe them, in some district. They're not going to blame their member of Congress for the actions of other members of Congress. They'll simply go to them and say, hey, we want the Republican to win and unify. Will you try and unify? Yes, I will. They're not going to vote Democrat because Matt Gaetz is arguing with them. No, I don't disagree with that. All I'm thinking about is optics. I'm thinking about the voter. I'm thinking about in every possible way, this is favoring conservatives to be able to win 2024 in every possible way. I was wondering if you did this thinking it was a way of scaring him, or you did this thinking he's going to get fired.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And that was the intentions because the reality of it is what kind of helped you, Matt, is the fact that there was not a red wave in November of last year. If there was a red wave, you guys wouldn't have enough leverage to be able to get rid of them. Well, it depends on who would have won. You know, if you could have had, if I'd have had Caroline Leavitt, Joe Kent, J.R. Majewski, you know, some of these America first candidates that McCarthy starved of resources and people who should have been there in Congress, you know, if we'd had those folks, you know, maybe even a larger majority would have led to more people with the desire to push back
Starting point is 00:29:50 against the traditional trajectory. Didn't the GOP go against Blake Masters as well? I know more about the House politics than the Senate politics. It seems to be story after story that the machine itself will push out anybody who would end up actually trying to fight for change or what the American people care about. Yeah, you think politics is bad, try the media. Oh, yeah. I mean, but you think about how what we're doing now, I mean, there was a great piece in Semaphore that came out today that talked about how what was remarkable about our efforts was that we were able to go around even traditional conservative media and even around Fox News.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And the way we were able to do that was by utilizing podcasts, by using alternative media, by even utilizing opposition media. I did more consequential interviews on this subject on CNN than I ever did on Fox News. And I think that there's a fragmented environment in the media landscape right now that we have to be ready to seize on. The conservative media landscape has actually never been more there for the taking, I think. I think the liberal media landscape as well. It's so devoid. Really truth kind, like, I don't know what it is. If you can sense someone's soul when you look in their eyes, we need more of that. I don't know what it is if you can sense someone's soul when you
Starting point is 00:31:06 look in their eyes we need more of that i don't know what it is exactly but like their dogs can do that yeah but a lot of animals can right they like we talk about unity and i agree with you guys unity can be very dangerous like hitler was all about unifying that country for horrible that means so you want disparate unity and i think it's the idea of god i don't want to, take it religious if we don't have to, but there is something we can unify under, which is consciousness. And then, then we just argue about everything else. That's the point. I, it does feel sometimes that, you know, like everybody in this room, I'm willing to bet, could have like a three-hour conversation with you about their ideas, their proposed solutions, what they think works and doesn't. And then you look to these, these other audiences, typically the corporate press and the mainstream media, and these people will
Starting point is 00:31:48 have no idea. I'll give you an example. How many liberals and leftists have come on TimCast IRL, and I say, did you see the video of Joe Biden talking about withholding the billion dollars over the Burisma thing? And they go, no, what are you talking about? And I'm like, now, how do you not know that? It's a huge subject of the debate in politics. They don't know these things. It's almost like they're not, they're non-player characters. That's where the NPC meme basically comes from. And then you have people here who are going to argue with us.
Starting point is 00:32:15 In fact, what I love about Timcast IRL is our super chat corrects our errors real time. It's kind of crazy that it's such a robust community. I need a super chat. Yeah. I wonder if AI can community. I need a super chat. Yeah. I wonder if AI can sort of aggregate me a super chat, kind of walk around Congress, and you guys can just correct all my mistakes. My favorite example, my favorite recent example,
Starting point is 00:32:35 is not political at all. It's when Hasan Piker called Phil Labonte, a failed musician guy, who had just opened for Metallica, has a platinum record, five gold records, and is a massive band. And what I find hilarious about it is, of course, Hasan could not say lead singer of All That Remains. He had to keep it as vague as possible because they need to keep their audiences misinformed or under-informed. Because if they actually were telling people
Starting point is 00:33:05 what was going on, their ideas would be very different. But to go back to what Ian was saying, it basically feels like many of these people are not conscious. They're just along for the ride and not paying attention. It's almost like they're blue-pilled.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Like they're chasing the money? No, like they're not awake. It's funny that they call themselves woke, but they're more asleep than anybody. The people who are awake are debating. Well, but isn't, don't you just have to relentlessly confront those people with reality? And then, you know, you have to spice in enough energy to get eyeballs. I mean, we are all in the attention economy, right?
Starting point is 00:33:39 I want your attention for my policy ideas and political goals. You know, advertisers want your attention to my policy ideas and political goals. Advertisers want your attention to buy their products. News organizations want your attention to be able to sell to those advertisers. And I mean, I remember, what was it, when you dressed up like Osama bin Laden and went across the Rio Grande, you were able to use comedy and a viral video to make an
Starting point is 00:34:04 argument that broke through that typical monopic. I dressed like a terrorist and I got the costume from Party City and I swam across the Rio Grande. How did that help you with TSA? So this is like, we'll get to that in a minute. And this is like nine years ago and I swam across the river and I was looking for anywhere for border patrol and I found one and I ran towards him and he drove in the opposite direction and then like a few months
Starting point is 00:34:30 later I was targeted at the border in Canada and and harassed but um I think the solution is not political that you're what Matt does I don't I can't even copine on that I think it's we need to every one of you out there and I've said this a hundred times, you're the media. You, you are the journalists. And what, what people need to see is people, people need to see, like, I can't imagine the conversations Matt has seen and witnessed in, in the halls of DC this week. And if those are recorded, like people need to see it. And my problem is, um, as an investigative reporter, I get, you know, 100 legitimate, legitimate people a day
Starting point is 00:35:10 contact me with all types of problems. Please come to the welfare office in this state. Expose this agency. But then when push comes to shove, they don't do it. Why? Because they're afraid. Because they're afraid to take that action, that they are afraid to go do it for fear of retaliation.
Starting point is 00:35:27 We talked about this. I have a family, I have children, I have this, I have that. And I have to say, what type of world are your children going to grow up in if you do nothing? They'll live in the pod and they'll eat the bugs. They'll live in the pod and eat the bugs. That's right. If they're lucky.
Starting point is 00:35:41 If they're lucky, that's right. And get myocarditis. You never know. Yes. You might end uparditis. You never know. Yes. You might end up doing nothing and things get great. I don't think it's going to happen that way. So there's no reason to be turned off or to use it as a fear. Not to be like, if you don't do anything, you'll be horrible.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Horrible things will come. Like, you don't want to scare people. Why not? You don't want to scare people into action? I would rather inspire them into action with an idea. Carrot and stick. With a direction. Like we could start pulling the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere
Starting point is 00:36:11 and converting it into graphene, reindustrialize it. And then sell it all over the world. By the way, if that doesn't inspire people, I don't know what will. That's very inspirational. Carrot and stick, I think, I love using the burning building analogy. You have to explain fire bad, right? It's not like, hey, it's sunny outside with flowers and there's dogs and puppies.
Starting point is 00:36:34 That's your incentive to get out of the fire. No, get out of the fire because you're going to die. Right, so it just depends on the circumstance. Oh, so do you think it's just, we're in a situation where it's dire enough that it warrants using fear to motivate? It is so dire. It is terrifyingly dire.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Look, look, should we go? I mean, I used to do this list of all the fucked up shit they're doing, but now in the past couple of weeks, I mean, what they're doing in New York to Donald Trump, they are trying to seize his properties through this circuitous legal method where it's like, okay, we're suing Trump for $250 million. We summarily determine Trump overvalued his properties. Now we're determining in a trial whether or not he falsified records.
Starting point is 00:37:12 If they're already saying a $500 million property, which actually is, is only 50, then any record created is falsified by their standard. They're then going to say, Trump, you're found liable for $250 million, and they're going to seize a $500 million property, mark it off as worth 50, and then say Trump owes another 200. This is what's literally happening right now. They've arrested Trump's lawyers. And a lot of people didn't even follow this. The lawyers who argued on Trump's behalf over 2020, which you are absolutely, in my opinion, required to do under this Constitution, a regis of grievances. If you feel you are wrong, you get your lawyer, you file the paperwork. That is the way you do it. And they sanctioned
Starting point is 00:37:48 Trump's lawyers in Colorado, two of them, $187,000, a collective million for several other lawyers. Now, Jenna Ellis and several other lawyers are indicted. The dire is an understatement. If you look to history, Mike Cernovich is talking about the regime framing him for a crime and killing him. And a lot of people get, you know, they say, okay, you're freaky, not a little crazy. I'm like, dude, would you have believed January 6th would have happened six months before? No one thought something like that was going to happen. Whatever your view is, a riot, peaceful protest on one side, it's still a shocking moment in history. If you said Trump's lawyers would be arrested, nobody would believe it. So when we have them trying to seize Trump's assets and destroy him with government power, I got to tell you, man, history dictates. I mean, or I should say history doesn't repeat. It rhymes. And we are
Starting point is 00:38:34 looking down the barrel of very terrifying shit. If you read, I think it's totally fair to say I did not read Solzhenitsyn, the Gulag Archipelago, but there's that famous quote I just posted I've seen where he mentions a guy, a military officer was being beaten, and he pulls out a knife and stabs the assailant so he gets charged with murder for it. That's what it was like in the Soviet Union, and I'm like, well, that's really funny. That's literally happening here today.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Regular people in their own homes, Black Lives Matter shows this guy in Wisconsin, screaming at him, the same group that had set fire to a house twice before. He brandishes a shotgun, so the police enter his home and arrest him, and Black Lives Matter cheers for the police. That's so weird, isn't it? They hate the police, but not this time. When the power is being wielded against, the regular American who was minding his own fucking business, they cheer for it. So I'm sorry, man. Dire. I certainly think it's dire. I guess I just don't want people to panic. Fear is understandable if you're in the military, if you're facing something, if you're up against, So I'm sorry, man. Dire. I certainly think it's dire. I guess I just don't want people to panic. Fears are understandable.
Starting point is 00:39:25 If you're in the military, if you're facing something, if you're up against, you know, innumerable odds, you're afraid, but you do it anyway. So, but if you panic, then you're fucked. This is why I love that story of Andre the rooster and why I talked about the rooster story in Chickens, and I'll be completely serious with this, brings levity to a dark conversation.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I see this story that Carl Benjamin tweets at me because a rooster sacrificed himself fighting a raccoon to save his hens. And it's silly to us, and it's funny because it's so cartoon, and chickens are hilarious. But I'm like, how many human males would sacrifice themselves to save their families, to save their community, to save their friends and family? And it is sad because a lot of people duck and hide and they say i'm not going to take the risk and it's like okay well you know look i can respect that you're scared for your family and all that stuff that's true but you got less courage than a chicken you know i don't know what to tell you there we are facing serious consequences for world war three if if this power goes unchecked you've got mccarthy and the democrats and Democrats and many Republicans wanting to fund more war in Ukraine
Starting point is 00:40:27 without, and I'm being nice here when I say, without justifying the cause to the American people. The only thing they offer us is platitudes and waving Ukrainian flags and saying Slava Ukraine. And I'm like, that doesn't mean anything to me. You're not explaining the threat I face here in the United States as to a border dispute with Russia and Ukraine. They don't. They don't care. They don't have a reason.
Starting point is 00:40:48 The reason is likely funding, intelligence. The reason is that Afghanistan wound down. Right. And now they need to get the contract signed again. And so this is their dispute. So if Vladimir Putin, he just came out and he said he will flatten the West with nuclear weapons if we strike Russia. And I'm like, dude, we don't, whether he's saber rattling or not, why are we fighting a guy that over Ukraine? There's no real reason. This is why I think what you're doing is so important. This is why I think the culture war is so important. And I think the reason why they come so hard at Donald Trump, why they're coming for you, why James O'Keefe is facing what he faces is because they just want unchecked power. I see little rhyme or reason.
Starting point is 00:41:29 They want unchecked power. They want to, as that tweet said, they want to get as wealthy as possible so the problems don't affect them. And we here in this room are trying to bail water, and they're getting pissed off about it because we're fucking with them. But what is the thing that they fear?
Starting point is 00:41:42 We're talking about what we fear. The thing that I would say communists fear more than anything else is being exposed so even today as i went on tim's show and i got sent a cease and desist letter i mean every day it's another freaking lawsuit every day lawyers have become very wealthy off of me and but i published the cease and desist letter and they don't mean so you have to expose them and the other thing about human nature is that i think if we don't have some type of shared morality we're doomed and i still actually think maybe i'm uh an optimist here but i actually think that most people actually do have a shared sense of morality particularly about their children i think 80 90% of people would agree on some things.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Do you think the trajectory on that is positive? Because I get the sense that we are losing the shared American experience, that it is diminished today compared to 10 years ago. Probably it's not positive trend, but I still think chopping off like private parts of children is probably something most people agree is wrong. But what, but what I, but I do, I do hidden camera journalism. And what's remarkable about these hidden camera videos is that the people, the
Starting point is 00:42:57 subjects know that what they're doing is wrong, but they're not willing to say it publicly. So human nature, it's like they're, they're caught saying, you know're not willing to say it publicly. So human nature, it's like they're caught saying, you know, I wouldn't say this publicly. Don't tell anybody. And that shows me that even those villains have a sense of morality. They just don't have the balls to say it publicly. I also think communists are afraid of hard work. That's another issue that I think is also very important to bring up here. But I think the people really do need to realize that there is a eugenicist, psychological, and biological war being raged against every single human being. Right now, what happened with the opioid epidemic? What happened with the lockdowns? What happened with the vaccines?
Starting point is 00:43:39 What is happening to the American people, specifically men, is a chemical castration. Their sperm levels, their testosterone levels are going down. And I believe unless you realize that there is a fifth generational warfare being waged against you, you are already a victim of it. A lot of people are far gone. I think taking care of your health, taking care of your testosterone, taking care of yourself as a man is going to be the first step to have people actually rise up, step up, and actually say, fuck no,
Starting point is 00:44:07 motherfuckers. These eugenicist bitches who go on private planes and rape children do not fucking represent me. Ian started working out. I have. Finally. Completely life-changing. I was telling you guys, Pat and Matt, before the show, we gotta all get fucking ripped.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You wanna win this culture war. Let's get fucking 20 pounds of muscle. Dude, I walk up to the castle, and Ian's lifting. Yeah, but I wasn't gonna let you stick that needle in me that you talked about. After the show. That was LSD. But no, this is important, because if you are healthy, if you
Starting point is 00:44:39 are fit, I think this is something more important than voting, because then you don't need big pharma. You don't need big agriculture. You don't finance the beast that is poisoning you and is invested in destroying your life. There is a literal psychological war for you right now. And you need to realize it. Getting your health in your own hands is the first step. Being happy, being healthy is an act of modern day resistance. And if we all do that, if we all just stand up for ourselves, all the fucking thugs robbing people, they're going to have a lot of more people
Starting point is 00:45:09 standing in their way. The people who are committing all their crimes, they're going to have to face some real consequences. And it truly does start with you respecting yourself. And I think that the psychological war is so fierce right now that people hate themselves. People don't like themselves. People don't value their life.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And that's why these globalist fucktards are able to get away with the shit that they're getting away with. And they wouldn't if you actually fucking stood up for yourself. Yeah, I kind of agree, James. You're saying we have a shared morality and you asked Matt, like, what do you,
Starting point is 00:45:35 there's this disruption in this shared morality. It's because I think of the endocrine disruption, our bodies. Hormone disruption. Not speaking for everybody. Some bodies are very healthy, but the people, if you're unhealthy, it's hard to fucking think. And then it's hard to even know what you believe. And then it's Not to speak for everybody. Some bodies are very healthy. But the people, if you're unhealthy, it's hard to fucking think.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And then it's hard to even know what you believe. And then it's hard to identify with people. So if we can get people healthy, I think that's a big step towards at least acknowledging right there. That's where government is funding the opposite priorities. We go fund subsidies for stuff that we know is having a negative impact on the health of our fellow citizens. And then we go fund the health care to take care of it. Exactly. So when you hear politicians talk about health care policy,
Starting point is 00:46:10 they're not ever talking about ways where you can be healthier. They're just talking about who pays for it. It's not health care. It's death care. These motherfuckers don't give a fuck about you. I would suggest... Hold on, hold on. It's not that they don't give a fuck about you. It's that they hate you and hold on. It's not that they don't give a fuck about you. It's that they hate you and want you to die.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Exactly. I mean, look what happened with the vaccine. There's people here that are injured from the vaccine. But still, everyone can't even talk about it on social media. People can't even bring it up on the corporate media. But we know there's people here. I know people here that were hurt, that were fucked up because of a biological
Starting point is 00:46:41 big pharma experiment on the American people that needs to be called out, that there needs to be some actual repercussions from and the big corporations and the politicians that sold you out deserve to be held accountable immediately oh repercussions well i have news for you young man because the one thing that mitch mcconnell lobbied for in exchange for all of the money that they wanted to fund, you know, every apparatus of every government that had ever been dreamed of during COVID. The one thing that he said was the Republican priority that we would not pass the bill without was protection of the liability of big pharma. Evil fuckers. And so it is baked in law that your remedies, your access to a courthouse
Starting point is 00:47:22 has been cut off as a matter of policy because that was the Republican position. During the lockdowns, did they tell people to get vitamin D and exercise? They said stay in your house. My wife did. My wife made me do wind sprints when I had COVID. Oh, how was it? She was pretty mean. Like, did it heal
Starting point is 00:47:40 you? I was alright. You know, I thought about a sauna. I didn't do it, but I thought about hot. Hot stuff seemed to kill the virus. When we got sick at TimCast, I made a phone call to the only medical professional I trust, Joe Rogan. And he said me straight,
Starting point is 00:47:57 in all honesty, though, I called the hospital, and they told me, good luck. I'm not kidding. They said, sir, lay down, good luck. And I was like, I thought a hospital, and they told me, good luck. I'm not kidding. They said, sir, lay down, good luck. And I was like, I thought I was shaking. My temperature was low. I was really worried, and I was just like, holy fuck, I am being destroyed by this.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And so I knew that Joe had talked about it. I hit him up, and I was like, my local hospital told me, good luck. What do you think? And he was like, bro, we're going to get you this treatment. We're going to help it. Joe actually, I don't even know if I said this before. I'm supposed to say it, but Joe paid for the TimCast crew to get the treatment for COVID.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And we did the full kitchen sink that he had talked about. Including ivermectin, which I left on your doorstep. Are you going for some sort of record? You got O'Keefe to cease and desist for the program earlier. Now Rogan's going to be under investigation like at least three state medical boards for this and i think we said this before but you know look what cnn did with making his face look all pasty and and then i i love this i think it was like nbc or something they were insulting joe over ivermectin and they put a picture of a horse a little cartoon logo of a horse that they
Starting point is 00:49:05 made apparently when they were talking about ivermectin and I'm like that right there exposes exactly what the media is they were trying to argue that Rogan was talking about horse paste so they made a horse graphic to add to the story to put next to the commercial break it says literally brought to you by Pfizer so yeah I mean mean. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there.
Starting point is 00:49:43 With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more, make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions.
Starting point is 00:50:03 19 plus to wager Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, Imagine how uncredible I would be if I, you can't you can't make this up but we we're used to, we're conditioned as Americans, particularly growing up, you see these commercials and you take it for granted, but they're literally bought and paid for, the institution.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Why is it legal for Big Pharma to buy television commercials? No one should be taking drugs based on a television commercial. Not only that, but they worked out a system where they take your tax dollars and then use it to buy those fucking commercials and the pundits and all the doctors
Starting point is 00:50:49 and all the regulators that they buy off and lie to you. The studies that they did were highly manipulated. They edited out people that were getting injured from the vaccines. There should be criminal charges right now placed on Pfizer, on Moderna, all of them. There won't even be civil suits. There won't even be civil suits.
Starting point is 00:51:05 There won't even be civil suits. And there can't be because there's no liability. I have a question for you since you're in this space. So, you know, we got roughly 195 different countries around the world, okay? Two of them allow Big Pharma to advertise us in New Zealand, okay? So there's no country in the world we should follow. We're following New Zealand's lead. Can a president, can a president, the day they become a president, can they put an executive order to say, moving forward, big pharma can no longer advertise? Does the president have the right to do that? Well, the way a president would do that was simply direct the head of, the secretary of HHS, to not process the paperwork of any entity that was still doing that.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And that would shut it off right quick. So you couldn't do it directly, but there would be an indirect way that you could compel that behavior. How do other countries who don't allow it do it? Well, through their legislative bodies, principally. So let's just say in a perfect scenario, you got a conservative president in there who is anti-establishment. Let's say you have Senate. Let's say you have Congress. Could you pass a law where big pharma could no longer
Starting point is 00:52:10 advertise? You could, but there's multiple lobbyists for every single member of the House and Senate. Which means what? Which means they are compromised through either cash or through a lot of these big pharma companies that hire the ne'er-do-well relatives of politicians okay so out of all the policies that somebody could run on right somebody hey we're going to build a wall great hey we're going to run on everybody's on running on that now right so including biden by the way apparently what he's doing so let's say we're running on woke you know transgender lgbtq all this stuff they can on. Is the most dangerous issue to run on is to eliminate big pharma from advertising?
Starting point is 00:52:49 Is that like you're going to get the most enemies coming after you? Yeah, but that presupposes that you lose if you have the most enemies coming after you. By that standard, I would have been out of Congress years ago. But you see... Do you know what I'm asking? You guys know what I'm asking? When you go up against certain industries... You might lose your job, for example.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And that's the least of it. Certain companies... Or the company you founded. That's right. So let's say you go up against one company. What do they do? They contact your employer. They say, oh, he's a bad person or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:17 You get political pushback. They fund your opposition. Hey, that's normal. The worst case scenario is you're Julian Assange. The worst case scenario is when they know they can't fight above board, they pull some bullshit moves behind the scenes. Like Chuck Schumer said, the intelligence agency's got six ways Sundays of fucking you over. So depending on how dirty it gets, the scary thing is, yeah, maybe you can go to Congress and say, we want to remove
Starting point is 00:53:40 the ability of big pharmaceutical companies to advertise drugs because we don't want drugs being advertised. You may not get a lot of people who are willing to stand in front of big pharma and argue to the American people they like what big pharma is doing, but you will get some of the dirtiest plays in, you know. Hey, James, James, didn't you have a good relationship with Pfizer? Me? Yeah. What happened with you and Pfizer? Well, that that guy, you know, he was a senior director of mRNA research. Jordan Walker was his name. And I confronted him in this restaurant in Brooklyn. And I have the footage, you know, on my device. I say, this is you saying our product is bad for America and we lie and
Starting point is 00:54:19 cheat and steal. And he's saying all these things. And I said, this is you. And he takes the device and he smashes it on the ground as if the only location of the video is on that particular device. And then he's on the ground like a deranged narcissist clawing away at the device. And I'm thinking, these are the people making medical decisions in this country. And he's not a low level person. And then the media, this is really remarkable. The media, of course, they're like an ostrich. They're like, there is no, I love the, there is no evidence. Have you ever heard this talking point in the media?
Starting point is 00:54:51 There's no evidence. These are journalists. Your job is to, I guarantee you there's always evidence of something, all right? May not be as much evidence as you want. They go, there's no evidence that this man works for Pfizer. When literally he's the right there. And so I had to get an internal document showing that he does. There's no evidence. So yeah, I mean, the problem, the problem, Andrew Breitbart taught this to me, really, 12 years ago. The problem, we all know
Starting point is 00:55:17 this, is the media. People are, people are, they need to be shaken awake. Because if we can't do that, then my premise is that we're all doomed, so nothing matters. But we have to shake them awake. But the only way for us to do that, the only way for that to happen is for you to do it. You can't wait for the other guy or, oh, James O'Keefe. James, I can't do everything. I can do some things. But you guys have to do it.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You're the media. You're the journalists, and I understand you need training and knowledge and equipment, and sometimes you need to follow someone else. You don't have to be the leader, but you guys need to go out there into society's institutions, and you owe it to your country to do that, and that's the only thing the only way i believe that we're going to change things is through an army of citizen exposers that's the future james shortly after this massive expose i think it was the biggest story you'd ever done this this chaos happens with accusations against you, and now ultimately it looks like the death of Project Veritas. I don't know what you're allowed to talk about,
Starting point is 00:56:30 but to a lot of people it looks like you caught Pfizer with their pants down, and then a lot of people believe that they got revenge. Well, I mean, we talked about this this morning. It's that you're almost fighting against human nature. It's like the good and evil is inside everyone, and the closer we get over the target, the more effective. I hope, Matt, you understand what I'm saying. The more effective you become, if you accomplish your mission,
Starting point is 00:56:59 they come after you, and sometimes they don't come after you in ways they think that you would. In my case, it was a strange deal. It was a company that I founded from my dad's garage when I was 24. I'm now 39. I built this thing. I built it up. And when an institution gets large, you have to make sure you surround yourself with really
Starting point is 00:57:19 strong people of good character. You have to make sure the people around you have good character. And perhaps I didn't do the best job of picking board members. Non-profits require a board. And I learned my lesson, and I will be stronger as a result of it. I think they learned theirs too.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I don't know. Look, look, James put out a video. You said there was $8 million in the account when you left, and now it's gone. They spent it all in six months. And I kind of feel like they probably spent it on themselves well i'd love a forensic audit to determine that and and um there's there's so much i mean i feel like i could write a shakespearean novel about what occurred but the bottom line only if it can also be a musical yes yes indeed and you were there for the Project Veritas experience, and you got to meet, Matt got
Starting point is 00:58:06 to meet the- I had an experience. No, it was remarkable. I got to meet the brave journalist who got CNN admitting on camera that they were propagandizing my life because I was an effective lawmaker. And the ability to be able to share appreciation with that journalist is a moment I'll never forget. Undercover journalist that recorded this,
Starting point is 00:58:30 this woman who recorded this met Matt, and he also said fear sells. And he also said, and this is very prescient, this is CNN's control room director, says that the next thing is the climate change. He says, that's our next move. That's where we're going to go. And I think that's where they are going to go. I was looking forward to them getting off of me and onto climate change. He says, that's our next move. That's where we're going to go, and I think that's where they are going to go.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I was looking forward to them getting off of me and on to climate change. But did you hear about what World Economic Forum said this week about climate change? They said the next thing is this lady, you have to watch this, says, we realized we almost got everybody vaccinated, but we failed, okay?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Then he says, well, climate change, you know, it's kind of complicated, you know, not everybody really gets it. It's kind of, you know, not fully there. He says, but what is going to get everyone's attention is the water crisis. That's what we have to use. So water crisis, this is World Economic Forum this week. Water crisis could be the next thing they could be pushing. And that could be, you know, quite scary thing for some people, but they'll use that against people as well. At the end of the film, The Big Short, they mention that Michael Burry was investing in water.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That's a simplified way of explaining it, but right. Again, I want to go back on this a little bit. So it seems to me everybody here, you went after Pfizer, your frustrations with Pfizer, you've done a lot of things with that. You called them out millions of times and you seem like you've been customers of pharma in different kinds of products, but forgive me, I'm just going to come. Herbal products. Yeah, I'm learning a lot about your, yeah, homemade, which is great. But going back to this, so I'm really wanting to find
Starting point is 00:59:56 this out. So if that idea was sold to the people, hey, we don't think big pharma should advertise anymore. Really, if that was sold to the people, how would you do it? I actually really want to know a little bit more about that. How would you go about accomplishing that? Because I think a lot of people would be for that. And, you know, it would create an enemy. They would come after you. It would be pretty ugly.
Starting point is 01:00:18 But by the way, if let's just say big pharma cannot advertise anymore, you know who goes out of business? 90% of mainstream media. Yup, good. So if you think mainstream media is the enemy, number one thing you got to do is not allow big pharma cannot advertise anymore. You know who goes out of business? 90% of mainstream media. Yep, good. So if you think mainstream media is the enemy, number one thing you got to do is not allow big pharma to advertise. It's game over overnight.
Starting point is 01:00:31 There's nothing else they can do with that. They cannot get that $50 million check they're getting. You probably wouldn't be able to count on mainstream media to carry a thoughtful and unbiased message about the need to abolish those advertisements. But they're not watching them anymore anyways. They're not getting the eyeballs that we're getting before. They're watching Tim Pool. They're watching Rogan. They're watching other people creating content. Yeah, I look, I think that the headwinds there are so strong when I observe the control that
Starting point is 01:01:00 Big Pharma has over Congress. I don't see a path to limit that. I think you would need the presidential bully pulpit, and you would need a series of targeted executive orders that would create disincentives for an advertising ratio that's out of whack with R&D dollars. I mean, there's not a single drug on the market in America today that you as the taxpayer have not been in some way, shape, or form involved in paying for the R&D for. But then they take the very same drugs
Starting point is 01:01:30 that taxpayer funds are involved in the development of, and they go sell them in other places in the world for pennies on the dollar, and then we get stuck with the higher prices and, I think, the diminished opportunities for better health care. And you have a relationship with both Governor DeSantis and with President Trump. A little stronger with the latter these days. Sure. I mean, you made the original introduction, if I'm not mistaken. Hey, we may want to endorse this guy and help him out, become a governor.
Starting point is 01:01:57 The story goes pretty back. But for you, who do you see as more capable of getting something like this done with Big Pharma? Who would be willing to go against a formidable enemy like Big Pharma? I tell you, it's a great question because I've seen them both team up on this very project. Governor DeSantis had the idea that we could drive down health care costs in our prison system if we bought our drugs directly from Canada and did an end run around the very corrupt system where you're subsidizing cheap drugs in other parts of the world. And so we had gone and Trump liked the idea. And Trump was going to sign an executive order to give Florida a waiver to do
Starting point is 01:02:37 that pilot project. And the guy that was the head of the Health and Human Services came in, I think it was Azar, and said, oh, if you do this, Mr. President, you will have mass resignations at HHS and at FDA. This is totally not acceptable. We cannot trust these products. I'm thinking, it's Canada. No one's, like, whipping this up in a witch's cauldron.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Like, this isn't like, you know, Canada's a pretty sophisticated country. And I watched Governor DeSantis and President Trump just browbeat the Secretary of HHS. President Trump signed the executive order. We got the waiver, and we drove down health care costs in the Florida correction system. So I saw them both be effective as a team.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Well, that's great to hear, the fact that they could unify on this topic. It was a while ago. What a bummer. I'm sorry. I was really excited about this, but I don't want to derail. I think we could probably talk about Pharma for 28 hours, but I want to talk about the national debt for a minute.
Starting point is 01:03:41 $33 trillion counting. We just printed $250 billion in one day, which is what? Is that a national record? All-time record? It looks like the interest is compounding such that it's impossible to pay back. That the only way to pay back that 33 trillion is to borrow 33 trillion at interest, and then we can pay back the balance, but then we owe interest on the 33 trillion we just borrowed, and it's a never-ending Ponzi scheme. So is there any value to defaulting on the interest that we owe the Federal Reserve? Or ending the Fed? One step at a time, but yeah, I take that too.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Well, and honestly, the Fed is how we got in the position because, like, you know, Grover Norquist, who I think right now is actually paying for advertisements attacking me, he set up this paradigm that, well, if we just stop tax increases, then we'll be able to starve the beast of money. And while you've got politicians to agree to that in large scale, you still have Fed policy that continues to pick winners and losers across the board. I worry about the $8 trillion that is about ready to have to be refinanced at higher interest rates. We have $8 trillion of that debt that is at very, very low interest rates, infinitesimally low. And now when you're refinancing that now, that's going to affect APR, that's going to affect every auto loan, every home loan, and the cost of money is going to go
Starting point is 01:05:02 through the roof. I don't know that defaulting on the interest makes that problem any better. I could see a number of circumstances where it could make it worse. By the way, you know who is feeling that the most right now. So here's a basic math for you. A half a million dollar loan today versus a year ago. If you get a half a million dollar loan, the average person lets you say at 8% today, you got a 720 credit score. It's not a great score, but you got a 720 credit score. It's not a great
Starting point is 01:05:25 score, but you got a decent credit score, 720. Half a million at 8%, 30 years at 720 credit score, your mortgage payment is $3,669, roughly $3,700. 18 months ago, that half a million dollar loan at 3%, 720 credit score, 30 years. Ready? $2,100. Wow. From $2,100 to $3,700, but check this out. The bank is going to now see at what income you need to make to be able to afford that house. So you got to take that 2170 and you got to divide it by 36%. Just do that on your math, on your calculator, come up with $5,500 a month, which means the bank's going to expect you to make roughly $70,000 a year to qualify for this half a million dollar loan at 3% interest rate to be $2170. At the 8%, which is $3,700 divided by 36%, you would need to make $122,000 a year.
Starting point is 01:06:18 In 18 months, from $70,000 a year to $122,000. So as much as you and I are talking about national debt and I'm very worried about the national debt, the average person sitting there saying, how the hell am I supposed to afford to buy a house today? My income's not going up. Everyone's going on strikes right now. Unions dividing employer against employees. People are not starting small businesses
Starting point is 01:06:38 like they did before. You're talking about interest rate on the $8 trillion. You know how scary that is when you go through the new rate? That is absolutely catastrophic. We sold the company last year, July 1st of 2022, right before where money got expensive. If we would have sold the company a month later versus a month prior, we would have made 20%, 10% less on the sale of the company
Starting point is 01:07:02 because money kept getting more and more and more and more expensive. So the buyers cannot go buy everything that's cheap. Today, commercial property, I'm sure you saw this WeWork in 2017. You guys heard of WeWork. Everybody here knows WeWork. You know what WeWork was worth in 2017 when SoftBank gave them $18.9 billion? It was valued at $47 billion. You know what happened to we work this week they could not make a 95 million dollar payment they went into default a 47 billion dollars and what does that tell you that's commercial real estate so the lowest we haven't yet seen the 2008 default on mortgage payments that we did which hit the real estate market we haven't experienced that but you're seeing it in commercial real estate they're not not making the payments today, and it's pretty ugly. And you're seeing it in the subprime segment of car payments.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So people who got subprime loans, these are lower level credit score, 600, 580s that they got those kind of loans. They're defaulting on their car payments right now. So we're seeing it in different pockets. And then eventually these people that don't want to sell their homes because they're sitting on a 3% interest, all of a sudden, if they start saying, babe, we're running out of money, babe, we got to sell this house. We got to sell this out. What are we going to do with this?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Once that happens next, you're going to feel it. So there's some economists today that are saying everything's going to be all right. Yeah, you know, it's just going to be a soft landing, all this kind of bullshit they're giving you. But there's some guys behind closed doors that are like, listen, man, this Michael Burry guy is worried about the S&P 500. No one knows what's really going to be happening right now. They're seeing what's going on with unemployment and the job market. So they're going to bump the rates again
Starting point is 01:08:32 another quarter basis point in the next month or two. They do that the next 30, 60, 90 days. No one's thinking 33 trillion. People are thinking, how the hell am I going to pay my payment? And how am I going to increase my income? It's going to be an interesting next three, six months for the average voter. Well, maybe if the average person can't afford to buy a house anymore,
Starting point is 01:08:50 there's some kind of low-income personal occupancy device, POD for short, they could buy instead. And then if the food becomes too expensive, there's always bugs. So I guess my point is perhaps it's on purpose. We know that there's been these big financial interests buying up residential homes, converting them into rentals. Now with what you're describing, it's becoming more and more difficult
Starting point is 01:09:12 to be an independent human being, especially with a family. So one segment I recorded on is AOC wants to raise the income tax on New York residents who are in the top 5% of income earners. The top 5% is not the same as the top 1%. It's a huge leap. And there was an organization that said, basically what you're saying is anybody who makes $250,000
Starting point is 01:09:36 a year or more in New York City. Now, $250,000 a year is a lot of money. But in New York City, you're talking about a man and woman who are both working full-time, hard enough to have a family, and they're each making like $127,000. And they're living in Jersey. Right, and living in Jersey. A one-bedroom apartment is $4,000 in New York City. So you're talking about a third or a little bit more than a third of your income every month in just rent.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Don't forget food. Now, what if you want to have kids? As they increase taxes and increase the pressure and make it harder to buy, now. Now, what if you want to have kids? As they increase taxes and increase the pressure and make it harder to buy, now you're talking, do you want to own? That's going to be impossible. And it's going to be $5,000 or $6,000 a month to even own anything. The reality is you need a three or four bedroom if you're a young married couple trying to have a family. But now both parents are working full time. They have no choice but to put their kids in institutionalized learning facilities. The reality is with everything you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:10:27 it's not just about the family saying, hey, we're running out of money. We got to sell the house. It's about millennials saying, I've never had a house. I can't even get married. I can't have kids. I can't afford it at all. The end result being, whether you think it's intentional or not, people are going to live in pods and they're going to eat bugs because they don't have the money. And no wealth is being built because we've been converted into a generation of renters and you look at how the boomers built wealth it was it was typically through home ownership it's the number one way the last generation built wealth but and i think it goes back to the point uh culturally about how we think about family formation and when your starter home
Starting point is 01:11:01 is your forever home because you can't leave it because you can't get out of that low interest rate for the simple math that Patrick was describing, it changes the way you think about your prospects to be able to grow and be able to your 8% interest rates. I think there's a reason Thomas Jefferson warned that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. I think what we're seeing right now with the U.S. Federal Reserve, what we saw with the secret bailouts that they did during COVID, that they did in 2008, are so incredibly incredulous. We're talking about trillions of dollars that passed through the banking system to all these institutions, BlackRock, State Street, JPMorgan, and Chase, that, by the way, just settled the Jeffrey Epstein lawsuit where they were caught being complicit in aiding the raping of thousands of children for over 30 plus years. So when we're looking at these big banks, when we're looking at the Federal Reserve, how do we solve this? Because I really, really do believe that this is being done on purpose in order to sow chaos and civil unrest. I think they're going to bleed us dry, and then they're going to set us loose, and then chaos is going to happen.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Why would they do that? Because it's Swiss. Oh, sorry to interrupt. Why would they do that? Think about why they would do that. Problem, reaction, solution. So I think they are motivated towards creating chaos. Why did Dr. Fauci, along with Peter Daszak and Echo Health Alliance,
Starting point is 01:12:30 work on making essentially a bioweapon? Why did the banksters in 2008 have banker bailouts while, of course, having the taxpayer for it? Why is the system so corrupted? Why did the FBI for 30 plus years look the other way and ignored victims of Jeffrey Epstein that came to them? The system is rotten and it thrives off of misery. And I think it's going to create more misery through the banking system very soon. For me, I think there's two ways. Yeah, you can make some noise for him. So I'm at a church and
Starting point is 01:13:02 my pastor gets up and he says, this is in LA, Pastor Dudley Rutherford. He says, you can make some noise for him. So I'm at a church, and my pastor gets up, and he says, this is in L.A., Pastor Dudley Rutherford. He says, you know, there's this guy in the church who's not getting baptized every week. He's not getting baptized. And the pastor said, well, God loves you. God loves you. God loves you. This is a moment.
Starting point is 01:13:16 If you're dealing with something, you want to walk up, this is the time to do it. He's like, nobody was walking. He says, one day, another pastor tells him, he says, why don't you start selling hell? He says, what do you mean? He said, just try selling hell. He said, I don't understand. Tell them what happens if they don't give their life to Christ. So the pastor gets up on stage and says, if you don't give your life to Christ, here's what hell's going to look like. And you know, it goes into this
Starting point is 01:13:38 mess about hell. Oh my God, hundreds of people come. I want to be a Christian. I want to get baptized, right? So selling hell works. However, selling too much hell also becomes a little bit chaotic the relationship of a prostitute and his client this is a weird analogy I'm gonna give to you guys especially right on the back of the church I like to go both sides maybe we could have stopped at a sandwich shop along the way, just before going right from church to the prostitute. I want to give a quick plug to Andrew Schultz. So the relationship between prostitute and a client, right?
Starting point is 01:14:14 Each is getting something in exchange. You got money, the other guy's being pleased, right? It's a very honest relationship, okay? However, Andrew says, you know why I don't think they're going to destroy the entire thing? I said, why? He says, dude, they all want their money. They're driven by their money. Why would they destroy the economy?
Starting point is 01:14:30 They want their money. They're interested in their money. They're going to want their money to be taken care of. These guys at the top. And then you go and watch some of these old videos from Rothschild, or you watch the videos from Rockefeller, how they wanted women power. Why? Because they wanted twice the amount of people working in the companies.
Starting point is 01:14:43 They're like, dude, I want women to work, and I want men to work. This is exactly how we're going to build a better economy. So that actually, as weird as it sounds, it gets you to say, okay, it is all about money. You just want to get richer and you want to be a billionaire and you want to do this. And quite frankly, if you ask me, a lot of these guys, I think there's three communities that are ruining America. And I'll give you my, I've talked about this before, but I'll give it to you guys. You know, we have different audiences. To me, one of them is the lazy Republicans and the scared Republicans. Kind of, you know, O'Keefe is talking about that a little bit. You're talking about that a little bit. I know some of them. Yeah, I know you know. This is your world. These are the guys that have the money.
Starting point is 01:15:19 They're worth a hundred million. They're worth a couple hundred million. They live in Palm Beach. Okay. They live in nice parts of the country and they still want to be invited to the liberal parties they don't want to piss anybody off they want to be friends with the guy that's their neighbor hey that guy from that movie still invites us to the dinner well you know my favorite president is bill clinton i don't know they'll play that card to kind of like keep that relationship in but they're scared god forbid people find out we're republicans babe hey kids when you go to school i remember living in Iran. When we were in Iran, my dad would say, you guys go to school. If they ask you if you're a Christian or a Muslim, you tell them, ask dad. Okay. Because in Iran, if God forbid you told anybody you're a Christian, you could be in trouble. It's a complete different
Starting point is 01:15:55 climate. The only one you go to school, never talk about, we voted for Trump. Tell them, I don't know. We don't talk politics in our house. Make sure you say that, son. Johnny, that's how we talk. So everybody's, you know, scared, lazy Republicans, right? One community destroying America. The second community, I believe, is the do-your-thing libertarians. You know libertarians? To each his own. You know, do what you gotta do, you know. Go out there and do your thing. I don't care what you do.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Wait a minute. You said do your thing. Now I want to do my thing with your kids. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You kind of crossed the line here with the libertarian bullshit. You got to step away from my kids. Then last but not least is the tolerant Christians. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.
Starting point is 01:16:45 From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more, make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun. And make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions.
Starting point is 01:17:14 19 plus to wager. Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. was an atheist for 25 years of my life, but at 18 years old, I got a chance to meet this pastor because I got a high PT score. So they got me to go away and live at this guy's house for three days, 10 of us. And we would play pool and jump in a lake. The guy gives me a Bible at the end of this event. He says, son, I think you need this Bible more than me. My parents gave it to me on
Starting point is 01:17:55 December 24th of 74. So I said, trust me, you don't want to give it to me. It's a waste of time. He says, son, I think you need it more than I do. I take it. So that day I start praying three times a day to a God I don't believe in. Okay. And my prayer, Hey God, listen, I don't think you exist. I think you're for weak people, but if you're out there, you listen. If not, I'm going to talk to myself. Eventually I started praying for courage, wisdom, tolerance, understanding. I have stopped praying for tolerance. I don't want God to put me in a situation to be tolerant. I'm no longer praying for tolerance. I pray for courage, wisdom, and understanding, not tolerance anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I think the tolerant Christians have ruined America. So to go back to it, as a father, we have to sell fear sometimes to our kids for them not to do something stupid like we did when we were kids. But we also have to sell the dream. I don't think we're selling the dream a lot today. we can sit here and talk doomsday all day long it actually believe it or not scares the shit out of some people to me the way you fight against this is to actually go make a name for yourself within the company you're working at be a damn player if you don't read business books start today go buy elon musk's books. Go buy 20, 30, 40 books. Recreate yourself. Go start exercising like him.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Work on getting a six-pack. Change your diet and your relationship. Work on being a little bit more clear on who you want to marry. Raise kids. Be tough on them. Challenge them. Get involved in the community. Learn to communicate better. Reason with people because we need to sell the dream. There needs to be dreams being sold. A message of scaring all the time. People don't want to get married because they're scared of always getting a divorce. Yet there is risk in getting
Starting point is 01:19:30 married. There's risk in having kids. There's risk in starting a business. There's risk in having a mic like this and people watching. You may say something stupid. Oh what a dumb thing he just made. There is risk in these things we're doing. But I think we need to rise above. I think we need to have courage. I think we need to sell the dream. I think we need to give perspective. And if we do our fight, kind of like you're doing your part as you fight, we have more, we may disagree, but I respect the hell out of your fight tremendously. You're a dog fight. You got one of those fights that we need more people like you. And then we can have discourse together and you can give me your argument. I could say, dude, I was wrong. That's a good point you're
Starting point is 01:20:03 making. Or I may point out something and you may may say Pat. This is why we're doing this cool I don't know about it and then we can have that exchange But that's my thing I think we need to kind of rise above it as well and do a better job selling America selling the dream selling life Selling marriage selling raising kids selling being leaders I think if we do that we're finding each other that is going to scare the shit out of the enemy. And then they're gonna say, holy shit, look who we just woke up. That's what I think.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Absolutely, yeah. Absolutely. What do we say now? I got stuff to say. So I agree with you. I agree with you fully. In fact, I think, I don't know what kind of good hope to fear ratio you want to project. 88 to 12%? Something like 88% hope, 12% fear?
Starting point is 01:21:00 There's obviously things you can do. We can create iron fertilization to reintroduce iron oxide dust into the ocean to grow the plankton to re-bloom the for fish populations will have magnificent fish regrowth to feed the human race on earth we can do that and we should be doing that with our government things like that that gives hope but what i'm afraid of is that the bank for international settlements in switzerland is in control of our federal reserve and they are stripping this country because they do not like american republicanism. They're afraid of it, and they want global technocracy. And I don't know what, unless we just default on this system completely, then we're left to our GDP,
Starting point is 01:21:33 which is not money, it's production. Gross domestic product, what are we producing? Because if they say, okay, fuck off, and they take our money away from us, and we no longer have the dollar, we only have our production. And what are we producing? And we, and manufacturing has been stripped from this country and we're being inundated with low skill workers who are being given special, special access. And that's why I say when, when we're looking at this international system versus a Donald Trump presidency, what was Trump's message? No TPP, secure our borders, bring manufacturing back was a huge component of it. If in the event they strip us of access or, you know, look what they do with Russia and the swift payment system. We're a part of this international monetary system.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I remember 10, 15 years ago, I'm talking to people about, you know, they say, oh, there's going to be a one world currency. You know, Alex Jones, like they're trying to bring in a one world currency, everybody. And I'm telling my friends, it exists. It's called Visa. I can go anywhere in the world and use my Visa card instantly without question. The one-world currency's here. And the threat now, they're saying,
Starting point is 01:22:33 is if you go against us, we strip you from the system. The scary thing is, I think Ian points out very well, we don't make shit here. What do we make? And we don't grow enough of the food that we eat. Right. And the scary thing is a lot of it's in california and california is fucked i really like indoor vertical farming there's a
Starting point is 01:22:50 aero farms in new jersey spectacular huge uh building where they grow multi-storied you know they they have like mesh where they grow uh plants that you can eat with the roots like growing through a mesh and you just spray it with some water you don't need brother does that it's a vertical farm it's a big business to get into and it's going to get bigger and bigger by the way that vertical farming gives hope right that's exciting you know folks who are learning how to make water give hope that's why entrepreneurs are solving many of the biggest problems in the world we need so so when you when you i don't know if you've read the book mind comb for if you study what his methodology was, what he was doing, Hitler's biggest playbook was, I've got to strip you away from hope.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I've got to strip you away from, if you read Bonhoeffer's book, I've got to strip you away from believing in God. I've got to strip you away from those things. If you no longer dream, if you no longer have hope, if you don't believe in a God, I control you. But if we have hope, entrepreneurship have hope, if you don't believe in a God, I control you. But if we have hope, entrepreneurship is hope, free enterprise is hope, capitalism is hope, that's problem solving. That's what entrepreneurs do. If we have hope, if we believe in a God collectively, that he has our back, you know what happens to a man with faith? His eyes are intimidating, because you can't scare him, because he knows someone has his
Starting point is 01:24:08 back. What happens if you—let me bring it to the lowest level. Go to New York. In New York, back in the days, the reason why a lot of the small families liked to have a backing from some of these Italian gangsters, what was it? A guy would come in and say, hey, Gino, give me all the stuff you got here. I'm sorry? Give me all the stuff you got here. I'm sorry? Give me all the stuff you got here. And you notice the business owner is not scared. I'm sorry? Do you want me to call Sammy?
Starting point is 01:24:32 Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Please don't tell Sammy I said this. Please don't tell Sammy I said this. In a lower level, that's when these guys had back in. It's called the Gambino family, the Colombian family, the Genovese, right? There is no gangster, no family bigger than a group of people believing in God. Nothing bigger than that. I'm convinced, okay? So we got hope. We got faith. You know what's the last one?
Starting point is 01:24:55 Everything you're saying here, Tim, for you to put an event like this and bring folks like Matt and O'Keefe and others who are doing a great job and they're giving their point of view, there is nothing more powerful than you leaving this place dreaming. Whatever that dream is for you. If it's maybe becoming a CEO, being an executive, being a director of finance, being a C-suite executive, starting a podcast, starting your own show, starting a blog, making videos, doing one of the scariest things out there,
Starting point is 01:25:23 put the camera in front of you, say something, and put it on YouTube, put it on Facebook, and you can get the scary 13 views where your own mom and dad don't watch your video. Like, oh shit, it only got 13 views. Hey, Johnny, can you also please watch it? 14 views, right? That scary thing we all went through. But those are three things.
Starting point is 01:25:39 If we get hope, if we get God, faith, if we have dreaming, oh my gosh, America will go back to being the greatest country in the world again. Again! But we need those three things, I believe. I want to give a shout out to that scene from A Bronx Tale. Have you guys seen that movie? Ish. You know, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I've seen this clip. It went viral. And I'm like, man, that's what being a man is. The story is, my boss hears a ruckus down the street, goes to the bar, and he sees some guys on bikes. They're being really loud. And the bartender, he comes in, he goes, what's the problem? The bartender says, these men are underdressed. They can't be in the bar. Biker dude turns to the mob boss and says, look, man, we're just trying to get a beer. We'll have a beer. We'll be on our way. Mob boss says, spoken like a gentleman, serve these men their drinks.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Honorable and with respect, he says, I don't mind your dress. You have your drink. But then the bikers take the beer, shake it up, and spray the bartender down. The mob boss then politely says, now you crossed the line. Now you got to leave.
Starting point is 01:26:37 And the guy says, fuck you. The mob boss turns around, locks the door, and goes, now you just can't leave. And the good old boys come in and beat the fuck out of him. And I'm like, this dude, this mob boss was around, locks the door and goes, now you just can't leave. And the good old boys come in and beat the fuck out of him. And I'm like, this dude, this mob boss, was respectful to them. He was respectful to them again. And then he told them, you come in here
Starting point is 01:26:54 and you fuck with us when we're nice to you, you get your ass kicked. Mike Tyson, he said something to the effect of, people have grown too comfortable with talking shit and not getting punched in the face. And I think this is a component of it. Not that people should get punched in the face or beaten the shit out of in a bar. I'm saying the idea before was let's, let's recognize and respect each other and have some honor about it. But now it's like, look at the people ransacking buildings and looting.
Starting point is 01:27:20 There's, there's no fear of law enforcement. There's no fear of the good old boys. Like you mentioned, you know, Oh no, Sammy's going to find out. They don't even give a shit if the cops find out anymore. And I think in Florida, we have constitutional carry and it keeps everyone real polite. A bit different, a little different, a bit different. But look at Philly, look at Philadelphia. They, these people have absolutely no fear of law enforcement. You had this viral video where this black woman is shoplifting, and then she screams racist as the cops are subduing her because they know this is their path to a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Starting point is 01:27:51 We've become the society where people are like, even if the cops catch me, they're not going to be able to do anything to me. But it's not going to work long-term, though. I agree. It strikes me as like a nihilistic behavior pattern because they don't have hope. If you are thinking, well, in 15 years, I'm going to see that space elevator starting to be constructed on Mars.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I have to stay alive for that, and I have to make sure that we do too so we can enjoy it and use it and go travel the stars. You teach these kids that, they're not going to riot. They're going to figure out how to build a space elevator. I love it. The space race was so inspirational to this country that we all came together and said
Starting point is 01:28:26 we're going to go to the fucking moon. I know Alex Stein back here, he doesn't believe we actually did. I don't know if we did. Do you? But, I would lean very heavily towards yes, but I am not so naive to think that governments don't lie. So, we went to the moon
Starting point is 01:28:40 with less, like, computing power than you carry around in your pocket and we all haven't been back and and hitler and hitler launched a v2 rocket and and but but see this this i'm sorry i don't want to get into a debate over moon landing stuff right i was just told that the moon is an astronaut graveyard apparently according to alex jones who i heard through shane cashman the moon they've been sending astronauts there and they've been dying on the planet for so long that they wanted just a lamp.
Starting point is 01:29:06 They got a photo op. Can I, can I, I'm sorry. I love, I love this. I love this subject, but my point was going to be, I would love to see a space race inspiring the nation, but now they're going after Elon Musk in every way imaginable because he's, he's, he's pushing back because he bought Twitter,
Starting point is 01:29:22 turned it into X. He's giving, not everybody, but some people are getting more access back to the conversation. he's pushing back because he bought Twitter, turned it into X. He's giving, not everybody, but some people are getting more access back to the conversation. And so now they're fucking with his space travel. Yeah, I want to inspire young people to believe in something bigger and greater, like we can be a space-faring civilization. But these crackpot, corrupt psychopaths in government are so desperate to latch on to power, they will destroy the guy who's building a spaceship. So I'm concerned that if we do not win this culture war, there's not going to be that inspirational battle. Well, many times they win because people just acquiesce. People obey,
Starting point is 01:29:54 and they're obedient to the system, and they give them the benefit of the doubt. And I think this is why we need to keep speaking very loud about all the atrocities that have ever happened that the government has their fingerprints on that they caused caused specifically because if you look at Maui in Hawaii, the people who disobeyed survived. If you look at 9-11, the people who disobeyed the orders to stay in the building, they survived. You look at Parkland, you look at Uvalde, you look at COVID, the people who disobeyed survived. And I think the more we disobey, the more we understand that the system is rotten, it's corrupted. It literally financed with your tax dollars, the rape of small children. Once you realize that that's how evil the whole fucking system is, then you got to understand,
Starting point is 01:30:37 you got to become stronger. You got to become tougher. You got to become more resilient. And this is why I'm so happy we talked about health earlier. I'm happy you made the point, Patrick, that you made, because it truly does, at the end of the day, come to, are you healthy? Are you strong? Are you willing to stand up for yourself, your family, your community? Are you? That's the question I ask you guys. Rick Rescorla. You guys know his name? Negative. Morgan Stanley, head of security on 9-11. When the first tower gets hit, he's in the other tower, and they said, everyone stay at your desk. And he calls his buddy and says, these motherfuckers are telling us to stay here.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I'm getting my people out. Only, I think, a dozen or so individuals from Morgan Stanley out of the thousands ended up dying because he defied the instructions to stay in the building. Motherfucking hero. He went back in to make sure the rest of his people got out, and he died. So like Luke mentions with Maui, you know, look, there are people who are instructed to do stupid shit. The people were told not to drive past, you know, nobody drive past us,
Starting point is 01:31:39 the police are blocking the road, and children burned to death because of it. This is basically what you did, Matt. You defied what the status quo to do something risky. You're still alive. It's awesome. For now. Yeah, nice work, dude. I'm looking forward to hanging out with you for 80, man. I can't keep a taste tester employed.
Starting point is 01:31:56 They keep dying. Cheers with everybody, you know, if you spill a little bit of yours into their glass. How can people support you? What can we do to help you? So I think the one I was most upset was on the floor and they started criticizing me for telling people what I was doing and asking them to participate with financial donations because I watch these members of Congress in both parties spend most of their day either begging people for money or doing favors to the people that gave it to them.
Starting point is 01:32:26 And it is just debasing from my perspective. And I am the only Republican in the entire United States Congress who refuses all donations from lobbyists and political action committees. And when they wanted to attack me for the way I raise money, when they go and grovel at bended knee for the interest group to give them another PAC check, man, that set me off. So I am building a network of donors at MattGates.com who give $5, $10, $15. I'm one of the top fundraisers in Congress, not because I go and sell out to the lobbyists,
Starting point is 01:33:04 but because our average donation is $37 at MattGates.com. And Matt, I want you. I think members of Congress should be beholden to their donors. The difference is these are your donors. You're beholden to the people who are giving you 37 bucks each, not some lobbyist who's worth millions of dollars, who's got his credentials for Capitol Hill, who's going to come in and say, here's the money we can give to your campaign. It's easier. You know what they do? They say, hey, do you really want to go ask a million people for a dollar? Why not ask one rich guy for a million dollars and just owe him a favor? And that's the problem. But the wonderful thing about internet video is you make one video, a hundred million people see it, and then they
Starting point is 01:33:39 can all give you a buck. Exactly. And that's why they hated Trump, because Trump was bypassing the machine. It's one of the reasons they're mad at you, and people are figuring out ways to seek out the people and say outright to them, hey, if you give me $10, I'll owe you a favor, but you're a regular American, not a corporation. One of the buried leads in the whole Robert Menendez thing was just how cheap people are willing to be bribed for. Right? I mean, this is not even an incredible, like, $400,000 this guy was willing to take in bribed for. Right? I mean, this is not even incredibly, like, 400 grand this guy was willing to take in bribes to go and do these favors for foreign countries and registered foreign agents. Another thing that my colleague from California, Ro Khanna, a liberal Democrat, and I agree on is that if you are a member of Congress, there should be a lifetime ban on being a
Starting point is 01:34:22 lobbyist or a registered foreign agent. Yep. Congress, there should be a lifetime ban on being a lobbyist or a registered foreign agent. When you play for our team and you make the laws, you shouldn't get to put on the jersey of the other side. So Tim, we're about to enter Super Chats, but before we do, I think it would be really good to just quickly go around the room here and just give us your number one solution that you advocate. Psychedelics. Wait, you want me to start now psychedelics uh um i think meditation if you can let no thought and let it still uh you'll realize that you're thinking and then just let it out and then it'll be like six seconds will go by and then let it you know and then if you're you'll realize you're thinking and you'll be like okay stop again then eight seconds will go by and then you'll do it're thinking, and you'll be like, okay, stop again, and then eight seconds will go by, and then you'll do it again, and it'll be 20 seconds.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Once you can think nothing for 20 seconds, you have empty, clear thought, you can do it for 40 minutes, and it resets your emotions. Highly recommend. I want to try and translate, just for those who don't speak, Ian. I think he's saying to collect yourself,
Starting point is 01:35:19 calm your emotions, to think clearly. There was this great story I read about panic, and it was U.S. soldiers were on a boat. Their ship had gone down, and they were freaking out, and then one guy took apart his service weapon, gave everybody a piece of it, and said, your assignment is this piece. We're now going to reconstruct it when I call you.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Hand me the piece required to reconstruct the weapon. And this turned people from a panic mindset into a productive mindset, and they credit that with their survival because it made them stop panicking so what about you patrick really quick yeah i would say identify what role you're going to play on the team so what is going to be your role are you a supporting cast are you going to be a driver are you going to be a face like to put an event like this together there's folks working back there's super important role they're playing the guys we met in the back
Starting point is 01:36:03 the people putting the event the security outside the incredible supporting team that you have back there walking around, putting the event, putting food, putting the tomatoes, putting all the stuff that was back there. What role are you going to play? Are you going to play a role of a face like Tim? Are you going to play a role like he's playing? Are you going to play a role of giving the $37, maybe not doing $37, instead doing $100, $200, when you're helping them out, first identify your role, your part. And you may say, I don't know what my role is. Well, then go work under somebody and support and learn and get better until you eventually figure out what you want to do. I remember a quote I read many years ago that said, sometimes on a way to a dream, you get lost
Starting point is 01:36:39 and find a bigger one. My number one dream I had when I didn't go back into the army, I was in the army for three years, I got, I was going to be a bodybuilder and I lost everything. My number one dream I had when I didn't go back into the army, I was in the army for three years, I was going to be a bodybuilder and I lost everything. My number one dream was for my dad to not have another heart attack, period. When I was at UCLA Medical Center and he was upstairs after a heart attack he had
Starting point is 01:36:58 and the security kicked me out because I didn't like the way they were treating him. I sat on my Ford Focus crying like a little baby. I said, it's over. I'm going to work my ass off to make sure this man never has to stress out about money ever again. That was 20 years ago. He just turned 81 a couple months ago, by the way. Okay. He just turned 81. But the initial dream was my dad being retired. And then the dream turned into me identifying an enemy and then introduced me to a whole different Patrick I never met before. So what role do you want to play today?
Starting point is 01:37:28 Play to the best of your ability. Keep finding ways to recreate yourself. And then all of a sudden, you're going to meet somebody, meaning you. You're going to meet a future you you never thought you were going to meet. And you're going to love meeting that person. Trust me. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more, make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win. Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Courage, take risks.
Starting point is 01:38:40 We are not going to win this culture war or this battle for the soul of the country with incrementalism alone. And one thing that my colleague from Arizona, Eli Crane, says is that courage is contagious. In your family, in your church group, where you go to work, in your social circle, with your digital network, if you have got the ability to be that beacon of light, to show that courage, that's how we ignite other people. That's how we carve this country out of a wilderness, and that is how we will keep her great.
Starting point is 01:39:11 You know, I think everybody's got a really good answer for how you can take direct action. I think speaking up is one of the most important things. James points out being the media is a really important thing. So I'll take a different approach and say two things. For those that may not have the time, energy, or the know-how of what to do, there's really simple things.
Starting point is 01:39:31 One, there's a reason why Public Square sponsored the event. When I figured out what they were doing, as I mentioned earlier to Carl Benjamin, Carl's like, I don't see how the right has any organization. I don't see how they're going to win. I mentioned Public Square, and his eyes light up. He's like, wow, that actually is good. There is an organization among us to create a parallel economy. Timcast.com uses parallel economy for our financial transactions. There's Dan Bongino
Starting point is 01:39:53 and Rumble. They're behind this. We use Rumble infrastructure for everything. We want to build where it's safer and where it's better. So that means for you guys, the easiest thing you can do is buy from companies that support your values. And I know guys, the easiest thing you can do is buy from companies that support your values. And I know there's a lot more you can do in terms of being active, but seriously, if you're like, you're going to buy some jerky, we bought a shitload of jerky from Anthem and from Carnivore Snacks, and you can find on the app a map of all the businesses around you. And so I used to work nonprofits, I used to do fundraising, and I would make the pitch that if you don't have the time, energy, the know-how, you give your money to
Starting point is 01:40:27 someone who does. Now it's actually really simple. Buying products from companies that support your, that support your values is quite literally a defiant act. So easiest thing you can do is that. Other than that, I would say donations in terms of membership and support for the people speaking out publicly, be it OMG, be it Matt Gates' political campaign or Valuetainment, Luke Rutkowski, We Are Change, that little bit of money, an hour of your labor, a couple bucks or whatever, when it's magnified by a million people, creates very powerful forces and helps win the culture war. James?
Starting point is 01:40:59 Courage, to Matt's point, was the main thing it's the virtue that sustains all other virtues without it you really can't do anything at all and overcoming fear fear is the biggest obstacle in this country uh in my opinion even to achieve all the things that pat was talking about you have to overcome your fear and as i when i got started in college, I started when I was 19. And I remember when I would go confront the professors, ambush the professors. This was not a natural thing for me to do. My heart was beating at 160 beats per minute. As I take out my, they didn't have iPhones. It was 2005, that Kodak digital camera with the video option.
Starting point is 01:41:39 And this is not an easy thing to do. And I'm almost hyperventilating. It doesn't come natural to me. Now it does. Now my adrenals are burned out. I'm calm when I'm ambushing people. But at the time, I had to force myself. I had to will myself to do this.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Why? Because I was so passionate about exposing that professor because whatever I had to do to get in front of him, and each of us has to figure out a way to overcome our fear. I think the solution is there's power in a community like this. You're all in the same room. Citizen journalism, OMG, what we're going to do, it's a little different than Veritas in that
Starting point is 01:42:21 now I'm going to equip people, equip people with the training, knowledge, tools, cameras. I make them buy the cameras so they have skin in the game. They have to give something up. And not everyone needs to do it either. We don't need a million people doing it, maybe a few hundred. This week, I'm launching all of my classes. We're having a paid webinar, o'keithwebinar.com. I'm teaching people how to do this, and people are inside these institutions. But it comes down to overcoming your fear and willing yourself to do it. You have to have courage. Courage is the virtue that sustains everything else. I would say energetically realize that your life has value and that it's incredibly short
Starting point is 01:43:06 and also realize that these satanic pedophile motherfuckers have no power over you unless you fucking give it to them. Don't give it to them. Avoid the pesticides. Avoid the seed oils. Avoid the microplastics, the heavy metals, the PFAs, the forever chemicals, the GMOs,
Starting point is 01:43:22 the food dyes. Support your local farmer and consciously decide, not just what you put into your mouth, but what you put into your brain, into your larger energetic force. You are the decider of your destiny. Make it a good one. And that one.
Starting point is 01:43:37 We are going to take questions from the audience. In real life Super Chats. In real life Super Chats. And I also want to add that we've got a whole bunch of our friends here as well uh people that you you you know and love people that you follow after we wrap up the questions at at just after 10 we're going to have phil labonte and a handful of other people do an additional panel to close out the show so uh everybody could stick around for that if you want a little bonus content they're they're here and we want to hear what they have to say as well but for now we want to hear what they have to say as well. But for now, we want to hear what you have to say.
Starting point is 01:44:08 So however we prepare to do the audience questions. I don't think they did. Usually what happens is the person has a microphone. Do what me and James do and just stand up and start screaming. Well, someone's got a microphone somewhere, right? Agent of chaos. All right, here, go. Don't wait for permission. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Go. It's a funny question. It's a two-parter. It's pretty quick. If a state secedes from the union, does that state inherit any debt from the United States? It'll inherit some other problems. Well, look, look.
Starting point is 01:44:35 If a state secedes from the union, it only takes even less to get the debt, right? Well, yes. I mean, it's a choice, right? I mean, there's like an honor system. If your buddy lends you money, you can just tell him to go fuck himself, and then he hates you, but he can't do anything about it. He can sue you.
Starting point is 01:44:51 But in reality, if a state left, it's just if they don't pay back what they're owed, I think that's the least of their worries. The federal government's going to come in with guns and say you owe us whatever. I'll put it this way. When the southern states seceded, Ulysses S. Grant grant said we paid your state's admittance with blood and treasure and we will not let you just leave i'm paraphrasing but i guess we now we have uh we have a question we have a mic now all right let's get some questions give it up for these guys we don't know if we want to hear from the audience we don't have that much time let's just let's do a quick question no long
Starting point is 01:45:24 statements please uh let's go ahead right now. We'll do some quick questions. Keep it quick. Let's go through them. So, Matt Gaetz, I 1,000% appreciate what you've done. I seriously do. Thank you. What you need to continue to do is to, like you said, make these people accountable for the things that they say, the things that they promise. And every single time, the question I really have right here, is every single time that the next person is voted in and they do this, don't be afraid. You're already showing it.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Don't be afraid to push them down and take them out and get the next person in line to see if they do a better job. Do you have a plan to set this in motion that if that person's not the perfect person for that job, will you continue to keep? Well, I'll settle for somewhat less than perfect before engaging once in a nation's history endeavor to remove a leader of a legislative body. But we will maintain accountability tools. The rules of the House that we've used don't automatically change. And, you know, my natural inclination is to resist any change in the rules that have allowed us to try to put these guardrails up and then enforce accountability when they get blown through. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for the kind words. Thanks for the question. Let's do it quick and then enforce accountability when they get blown through. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Thanks for the kind words. Thanks for the question. Let's do it quick. We have a lot of people, so. Yeah. So it's cliché, but try and keep statements to a minimum and get to the question. First off, I want to thank you, Tim, and the TimCast crew for putting all this together. It's been awesome.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. And the whole team here, you know, I love you all, but my question is for Matt here. I want to hear about the bogus ethics charge that these guys are talking to you about. I know that you might not be able to talk too much about that, but... Oh, I got plenty to say. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:47:34 I am the most investigated man in the United States Congress. I have been cleared by the people who hate me most at the FBI and DOJ. The FEC looked into me and cleared me 5-0. When Kevin McCarthy knew that he had problems because he wasn't keeping his word, he tried to go signal to the Ethics Committee to turn up the heat on me as if that would somehow compromise me
Starting point is 01:47:58 or deter me from the mission. I still did what had to be done, and I'm still hot on the trail, and none of that will deter me one bit. Hey, everybody. My name is Colin. I really appreciate everybody being here. You guys are awesome.
Starting point is 01:48:15 I have an Ian question for everybody, for everyone. And with the way everything has been for the past few years, it's been really hard to not be polarized. And it's really important to stay centered and stay centrist and hit everything from a logical perspective. And I'm wondering how you do it. Basically, that's pretty much all there. Also, magic is real. I love you, Ian. Oh yeah, it's like magnetics, I think. The mag prefix. I think you've got to poke holes in your own beliefs, like the scientific method yourself. So anything you think
Starting point is 01:48:51 you know, look for why it's wrong. And don't stop until you find it. Well, and then stop eventually. So do it for a while, and if your friends think you're right, and if a lot of people think you're right, you still might be wrong. Do it for a little bit more, and in the back of your mind think you might still be wrong. I for a little bit more in the back of your mind think you might still be wrong i think what you actually find with the culture war is we typically are centered it doesn't mean you're not right-wing conservative
Starting point is 01:49:14 post-liberal whatever you want to call yourself or libertarian or whatever and this is the stage of people where we typically have disagreements but we are honest about what the facts are. And as James pointed out, the media has no evidence. There's no evidence. Yeah, we might disagree. You know, Jimmy Dore is doing a show tomorrow, and he's very lefty economically. But if you show him the video, he'll say, I agree. The video shows the same thing. We see that he's not going to lie to you. So we don't have to be left, right, whatever. It's like, so long as we are being honest and having real arguments about what the facts are, we may disagree morally and on our opinions and policy stuff,
Starting point is 01:49:50 but I think a big divide in the culture war is people who are lying and don't know, and or don't know, and people who are being honest and trying to solve the problems. Thanks for that question. Magic is real, by the way. I never thought that I'd actually have to do this,
Starting point is 01:50:04 but I do feel like we need a fact check on matt gates i respect you and i respect everything you said but we are not a constitutional carry state we cannot open carry in our state and that needs to be fact checked i am also running for district 77 in fort myers florida for state house as a libertarian and the question that I would like to ask is what is your opinion? On title 4d and trying to fix the family court system So that way we can 40% of our state budget in the court system is family court related 70% of them are re-adjudicated the Supreme Court of Florida in 2001 ordered all family courts to have what's called a family law advisory group um why is it that we have not had any movement in the family core system
Starting point is 01:50:52 trying to get the families together build the community because i believe that that is what we need to do to fix our country and fix our state it's a it's a actually something i know quite a bit about having served in the flor Florida legislature, the body that you're running for. It's because the family law section of the Florida Bar wants to make the resolution of family disputes as expensive as possible so they're able to grift off that system the greatest extent. So they don't want it to be easy to resolve those disputes. I sponsored the legislation to have open carry in the state of Florida. Unfortunately, it didn't pass. And it's because we had too many sheriffs oppose it. And we need, you know, we've done, I think, a good job in Florida
Starting point is 01:51:33 getting some of the anti-gun sheriffs out and getting more Second Amendment supporting sheriffs in. And I'm for every bit of gun rights that we can secure. Good fact check, though. That is true. You can conceal carry without a permit in Florida, but you can't open carry. Still good, though.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Still keeps everyone polite. I stand by my statement. I'll keep things brief. Thank you all so much for your time. My name is Seth Kreisel. I'm a personal trainer. I came all the way here from Austin, Texas two days ago because I have one very important question to ask you.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Moonlord, are you ready to get swoleole because I came here to help you get there I'm swelling as you speak thank you sir bro I walked up one day and Ian's got a shirt off and he's lifting and I was like holy shit I'll get back to that tomorrow maybe day after he's like outside like this feels good to work out what he's doing next up yeah welcome to florida gentlemen welcome to freaking florida this is the place to be when i was driving around flagler i saw the skateboards i saw the roosters i was like tim pool is here tim prick and pool is here there are chickens running around outside right now all over the place and pat's still on fire from Vault, bro.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Best conference I've been to. Amazing. My big question is this. AI is going to displace tens of millions of jobs. Walmart's automating everything. Nobody's freaking talking about this in Congress. We're talking about all this stuff. We're not talking about AI displacing millions and millions of jobs.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Why not? Why can't we talk about this? No, we've started to have some of these discussions with my Boomer colleagues, and it was great. We had Sam Altman in, and we had a big group of members, and he gave this little presentation and talked about some of the ethical dilemmas. And it's like, all right, first question from a member of Congress. And Rick Allen from Georgia raises his hand, and he says, ask it if God's real. You know, and it's like, man, that's, you know,
Starting point is 01:53:29 I don't know if that's entirely exactly where the Congress ought to be evaluating the potential impacts of AI. Probably we could do a whole episode on it, but I think that we're behind, and I actually don't think there's any realistic expectation that you could ever establish a regulatory regime that could catch up to where Gen AI is going. Well, and China's way ahead of us when it comes to writing white papers and studying this, too. So if we don't take it seriously, I think it might be too late.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Right, so it creates a dilemma because there's some people who say, well, China's ahead, so the only way that we get ahead is massive U.S. federal government investment in AI. And in the absence of any guardrails there, with a lens toward military application, there can be real risks. It might be wise to build a free software, artificial intelligence, with like AGPL3 so we can see the code, we can watch the code change in real time publicly, and then that'll become like the good AI. There'll be like hundreds of millions of AIs, and all the proprietary ones, the secret ones, will get confused as to why they're doing what they're doing and will turn on their masters. But if we have an open AI that understands itself, we'll be able to work with it, I think. I think we're merging at some point. I just want to, totally off point. I just want to totally off-point
Starting point is 01:54:46 though, just mention that Politico's reporting Kevin McCarthy might resign entirely. There's that. I heard he's taking over as the new CEO of Project Veritas. Next question? The question is, if I do a musical
Starting point is 01:55:02 on that PB thing, how many of you will come? Oh, everybody's doing it. We're there. All right. Hi, my name's Corey. This question is for Mr. Gates. Do you have plans or desires to reform the Republican Party, or think it would be better to start a new party, an American First Party?
Starting point is 01:55:21 Yeah, I'm not leaving. This is my party. I'm here to kick them out. And by the way, there are more of us than there are of them. And they know that. And it scares them. And it should. And so my plan is not to depart the Republican Party, but indeed to win more ground, to take more hills, to win more primaries and win more elections. These open rules I've sought where people can offer amendments, we're losing more than we're winning.
Starting point is 01:55:47 I lost an amendment vote, and it was an amendment to take $3.5 billion out of a budget where we were going into debt to pay off Ukraine's debt that they had incurred before the invasion. And so I just thought, like, you know, us borrowing money from China to give to Ukraine to send a message to China to not invade Taiwan didn't make any sense. But even though I lost that amendment, I believe that taking these votes is seeding the fields for future primary challenges
Starting point is 01:56:18 so that we get better Republicans. Right on. My name is Andy. Thank you so much for all your time. My question is, I guess, specifically for Mr. O'Keefe and Mr. Gates, but it's kind of an open question for everyone on the panel and kind of a two-part thing because Mr. O'Keefe talked about the necessity of exposing the left and that that's what they hate. And the communist movement has always been an
Starting point is 01:56:41 international movement and is today. It's always been funded by the states that are communist, that try to subvert their enemies. And rather than simply focusing on a journalistic approach and exposing the individuals, to focus on an intelligence-based approach and expose the networks so that we can focus on sort of CENTCOM as well, and that when those funding networks are exposed at a national level to go after these people for meeting with Venezuelan officials and taking money, enacting their will as foreign agents. These people should be arrested, and there should be RICO statues. And I would like to propose legislation that no U.S. entity can do business with socialist-affiliated transnational action networks. And so the usefulness of that
Starting point is 01:57:27 approach, can that be done? How would we do business with Google? How would we do business with American companies? Spicy. And the other part to that is, how many of you are aware that since 2006, there have been annual global and international conventions by communists and socialists called social forums staffed with Venezuelan revolutionaries and agents there have been over 300 meetings with high-level activists in the US and them and this is on the UN's page funded by Venezuela and it's been going on since 2006 and that correlates directly with the rise I just wonder if you all know about these things and if you can well I'll address the journalistic thing. You know, people fear, more than anything else,
Starting point is 01:58:09 public humiliation. It's the strongest motivating force for human beings. So Saul Alinsky, who some say is a communist, I don't think he was, but I've read his rules for radicals. He says, pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Organizations, institutions are made up of individuals. The strongest exposés are always about an individual, not an amorphous blob of an institution. So we do have to take a journalistic approach, and we have to get them on tape being who they are. Therefore, no explanation is required. I think it's a fact-based approach. I've dabbled in this sort of intelligence-based approach, and I just believe that expose citizen journalism en masse is the most powerful way to go.
Starting point is 01:58:53 Probably in conjunction with, like... Perhaps. Hello, my name is Christy Tasker, and I'm running for District 2 Commission here in Miami with this great building under. And I have two questions. First of all, Mr. O'Keefe, it's a pleasure to finally come face to face with you because I was the one to help you break the story with Dr. Valentin, breaking Dr. Fraudgy. So that
Starting point is 01:59:16 was me on the tape. So thank you very much for the opportunity for your classes and everything. And I have a question for Mr. Patrick David, because you had the opportunity to help our Ponzi Postalita, because we are in a banana republic with no bananas and no sheriff, but we have a Ponzi schemer running for FTX who also hired you to conduct a podcast. FTX? I've never been with FTX. No, you haven't been, but our Ponzi Postalita has, which is Mayor Francis Suarez hired you to do his best podcast. So I'd love to know what your views are on Miami as a whole, Miami politics. Oh, Miami politics. I couldn't tell you. I'm not that involved. I can tell you I get invited to a lot of different things.
Starting point is 02:00:10 And we had a great conversation together. But FTX, a lot of people were involved with that guy. That guy fooled a lot of people. I don't know if you guys saw the conversation recently of him saying, how much do I need to pay President Trump to not run for president? Did you guys see the number or no? Oh, yeah. It was five? $5 billion? Yeah, $5 billion. No, that guy's a whole hot mess. But by the way, just so you know, there's going to be a lot more people like that in a marketplace where you have to be selective on whose money you take to sponsor your podcast. And some smaller podcasts cannot have a team to filter out the right partnerships. We have to do a better job. It could be anybody, by the way. Anybody could fall for it. But he's one of the shadiest guys we've had in capitalism
Starting point is 02:00:48 the last few years. What do you think about the opportunity that they had to actually sponsor our arena, where we lost millions of dollars, both the county and the city, where we do have a lot of people that should have been able to investigate it, and they're sweeping it under the rug? What do you think about it? What do you think about it? I think it's absolutely horrific. I think we had plenty of people to be able to research and do basic things. I mean, if I can do basic research. It's not even the worst arena deal in Miami-Dade County. That would definitely be the Marlins Stadium.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Yes, yes. Well, and there's many more. I mean, but I was just curious what your thoughts were regarding that because of that. Listen, I never got close to the, I'm the one guy that never got into the NFTs or crypto. I'm not in that world. So we stayed away from that world for as much as possible. But when you go into business, there's the risk of taking money from wrong guys. Don't forget who invested into FTX.
Starting point is 02:01:41 Some of the biggest funds in America gave these guys billions on top of billions of dollars and lost a lot of money, a lot of money. And at that time, you know, do you remember the product Quibi a few years ago? Do you remember who invested in Quibi? Do you remember Katzenberg? Do you remember all the big names, the big funds? What happened to Quibi? Three and a half billion dollar loss? But3.5 billion loss? Usually it's not governments that have invested it. I wonder if they did it to make government regulation
Starting point is 02:02:11 for cryptocurrencies. Just something to look out for, Mr. Gates. Appreciate it. Thank you. We only have a few minutes left. We'll just try and go as quick as we can. We'll try to get a few more. We can have a few minutes left. We'll just try and go as quick as we can.
Starting point is 02:02:26 We'll try to get a few more. We can go a little over. Hello, hello. We can also bring other people in if anyone's got a bounce. We've got tons of people here, tons of our friends. I came all the way from California, but I just had a question. I was like, what would be the reasoning behind telling a company that they can't advertise to their customers? I'm just saying it's because of the heavy government involvement.
Starting point is 02:02:45 So saying that a drug company should not be allowed to advertise, this hasn't helped other countries that don't allow it. They still have all kinds of drugs for these people. They still put them all kinds of prescription medication, overdo it. So I don't see why... But they're able to...
Starting point is 02:02:58 Well, so isn't their citizenry at a lower cost? You know... I know, it's because they didn't make the stuff. So it's mostly coming from the U.S. But I would tell you it's bigger than that. If I may say one thing, the bigger part is the people that work for these big mainstream media,
Starting point is 02:03:14 they're influenced because they can't call them out. Right, but I'm saying if you didn't have, if the government wasn't so heavily involved with the drug companies, why wouldn't they be able to advertise like any other company? That's kind of my question. I don't see why that's a... Well, it's because they are. You sort of bake it into the premise. If you separate it, it's fine. Because like I said, even other countries that don't allow them to
Starting point is 02:03:33 advertise, they still give them all kinds of drugs, Ritalin, all the other stuff to these people. So it's like, they'll just go behind the door and say, put this in the FDA. It's special. Make sure that's in the list. And then you just won't see it. So it's like, it seems like you should be forced to advertise. why should I take this drug? Government doesn't say you can take any drugs. Just, you have to convince their customer why they should take this drug. It seems kind of, I guess.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Yeah, I don't know that that system has worked well for us. No, it hasn't in the way it's formed now, but I'm saying if it's more, it's like if you threw people from the city out into the boonies or something, they'll die. But it's better for you to be able to fish for yourself, even though they wouldn't. But to get to that point, which seems like what you should be doing, I guess. Yeah, I think that that presupposes a disentanglement that is very unlikely to occur.
Starting point is 02:04:14 That would be my reaction. I think it's a fair point. I don't think medicine should be for profit personally. It's fucking disgusting. It's a moral question. I'm not a hardcore libertarian. Then how do you have innovation? See, I disagree with that because to me, you have to have a profit
Starting point is 02:04:30 motive to achieve the greatest innovations in medicine. I don't know if you have to. We got one more question? Yeah. We got one more. We have time for one more. We might have time for more than one more. I mean, we all have time. Everyone's here. What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 02:04:45 So much shit. How are y'all doing? Man, I came all the way from Texas. I want to shake your hand, your hand, your hand. But man, let me tell you something. My office, I get the most amazing. Who fucking stood up against this crazy nonsense? You are a badass.
Starting point is 02:05:05 You're a badass. You are a fucking badass. I just want to say that. He's holding the unvaccinated certificate I gave to people, and there it is. It's a plaque. Y'all sign your certificate. Yeah, absolutely, 100%.
Starting point is 02:05:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have any questions? You guys want one more? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. We'll? You guys want one more? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll try and get a couple more in. Not sure how to follow that, but I think what these events are are really great to make you guys tangible to everybody and bring what you're doing on the shows and bring it to real life and make it real for everybody. So thank you. What I wanted to say is that I really hope the story that really
Starting point is 02:05:43 has affected me recently is Hawaii. I wonder if there's anything we can do to not memory hole Hawaii. Something very odd happened there. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but the death count going down from 100 is highly suspicious. And it's a shame that it seems like this story is going away with so many people missing so i hope you guys can keep that up and figure out what the heck is going on i was there in maui that the sheriff you can't take pictures they declared a kind of effective martial law so i i do get sued a lot but two weeks ago i sued the governor of haw of Hawaii to try to change that situation.
Starting point is 02:06:26 And I have a number of people in Hawaii that are wearing hidden cameras, so stay tuned. I do want to say thank you to everybody who came, because my team tells me that we just slightly broke even on doing the event, which is amazing. So that's all I ask, is if we can keep doing them. We're not going to get rich off of bringing everyone together, but if it covers the bills and we can keep doing them, you know, we're not going to get rich off of bringing everyone together, but if it covers the bills and we can keep doing them, then we're winning. Thank you guys so much. And I'm just glad I don't have to go to the middle of nowhere,
Starting point is 02:06:54 the woods, to hang out with you guys. I know, right? Hey, Miami's a lot better. There's a certain deliverance energy out there. Exactly. Thank you. We'll try and get as many more as we can in but we are going over and we got another great panel coming absolutely too we all a bunch of our friends
Starting point is 02:07:10 are here so let's let's grab these questions this guy's really eager over there well let's go uh who has the microphone did they shut it down We're doing a lot of tips in the Discord. You guys don't start being hard anymore. And we got a lot of shows. He's talking about the Discord. The TimCast Discord server. Yo, yo. Oh, here, Mike's working. Okay. Well, we got the Discord.
Starting point is 02:07:35 I'm showing the Discord. That's why I'm up here. You guys got to get involved. We got people watching on the Discord at home. And we got people in this crowd. You all got to get more involved too. We got a ton of shows that we do. We got a morning show at Sammy Football.
Starting point is 02:07:50 We got the Midday Rush with T-Bone, Fluffy, and Brian. We got the Before IRL with me, Olivia, Claire, and Sanoski. And they're going to do the weekend kickoff right after this show on the Discord. And you guys got to watch that shit. Alright? Let's get the fucking go! You guys rock. That's amazing stuff. No question there, I guess. No, that's great though. Join the Discord, and you guys gotta watch that shit. All right, let's get fucking going! Woo! You guys rock.
Starting point is 02:08:06 That's amazing stuff. No question there, I got to say. Yeah. No, that's great though, join the Discord. How many vaults did that guy have? These are good, huh? No sugar, no caffeine. Just let me know what you guys.
Starting point is 02:08:17 All right. Thank you all for being here tonight. Really appreciate it. I'm a special education teacher in Florida, so I'm absolutely grateful that all you guys are here. just have a quick question for mr matt gates thank you for all you do by the way real quick just wanted to mention that so there's one big question that i've seen in my schools and then also seen in other food supplies that my parents have been noted beyond and other that's in other counties as well is going there going to be a bill passed that's
Starting point is 02:08:44 going to limit or completely eliminate all the MNRA that's being put in our foods? No, I don't think so. I see nothing like that on the horizon to pass, but I think it's something that deserves review. Thanks for what you do, by the way. That's how we know God is real. People are willing to do incredibly challenging, but also incredibly rewarding work. Hello, so my name is Connor Drake. I'm 19, and my main question is, what do we do to get the youth involved? Because their attention span is crazy.
Starting point is 02:09:18 They're not going to sit down and watch a three-hour podcast. They're just scrolling on TikTok. What do we do? People my age, I can't even talk to friends. Nobody knows anything about what's going on in this world, and it's just so bad. Build culture. Yeah. For my entire time growing up, conservatives were not cool.
Starting point is 02:09:39 Wearing suits and, like, even I look at these young Republican events, and it's, like, a bunch of people wearing suits, and it's, like, I don't know. It doesn't feel in tune and relaxed and charismatic. But now what's happened is so many artists and dreamers and people who are more hippy-dippy were pushed out of the Democratic side and pushed out of the left that you're seeing creative works emerge now with what is more associated with conservatives and Republicans that Republicans have become punk rock and counterculture where Johnny Rotten says the liberals are,
Starting point is 02:10:01 what do you call them, uppity twats or something like this. So I think you typically see young people want to rebel. I know it's cliche, but the idea is to challenge the preexisting norms of society. And if the left is giving you slogans for major corporations, it's not very cool at all. And if the counterculture and the fun and the sticking it to the man is now with us, I think that is a natural force. It just means we got to make things that are fun, we got to make things that are cool, and we got to create art.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Absolutely. Thanks for coming. Once we wrap up the questions, a few minutes. Yeah, hang out right here. Hey, welcome to my home state of Florida. Next year, I'm going to be going into the military as a Christian chaplain. I'm going to face, I know I'm going to face a lot of opposition, and I want to know from gentlemen who face tons of opposition, what can I do to prepare myself for an environment
Starting point is 02:11:01 that's probably not going to welcome my Christian conservative views? Patrick, you served? Yeah, I think you'd be surprised. I think there's going to be a great opportunity to build relationships with people. There's going to be late nights. We had a guy at our unit. His name was Wilson. I remember him till today, and he wasn't a volleyball. It was actually a real human being. You know, if you guys got the joke, you got the joke. But this guy's name was Wilson and we were all trying to break the record on who can drink the most beer per night obviously don't fall for that competition I'm sure you're not going to fall for it as a chaplain but when you
Starting point is 02:11:33 go in he would always sit there and want to pray for everybody and it was so weird but everybody loved him everybody loved him and just the way he was he was able to get a lot of us thinking about it so you will be surprised. It's all about relationships in the military. They want to be around other people. They love America. And you'll have more opportunities to work on them. You're going to play a very important role.
Starting point is 02:11:55 I'm excited for you. Yeah. All right, Tim. Tim, that was our last question. That was our last question. I mean, we got a lot of people. That was our last question, guys. Look how eager that guy is.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Let's just get the one guy who jumped up and down. He's jumping up and down like he has to pee. His mic is no longer on. Just take that one. Just ask really quickly. Go ahead. Really quickly. We just opened up our first business together. It's a... Oh, authoritarianism.
Starting point is 02:12:24 You know what it is? They got us. You know? Them's the rules. No, no, no, finish up, finish up. Just raise your voice and everybody be quiet. Yeah. We're out.
Starting point is 02:12:36 Sorry, guys. You guys fucking rock. This wraps the first half. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! Is the mic still on? Can you hear me? I can't hear.
Starting point is 02:13:29 We're not over. It's not over. Because if you can, so ladies and gentlemen, before you leave, if you're still interested in hanging out, there are so many amazing, badass people who are here hanging out as part of the crew and as friends, like Phil Labonte, like Ashley St. Clair, like Seamus Coghlan. So as everybody is winding down, there's another opportunity here for Phil
Starting point is 02:13:52 and many of our friends to come out and talk with you guys as well. So give it up to Phil who's going to introduce people and he's going to take over the rest of the show. Hey everybody. What's up? Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:14:11 So the show hey everybody what's up so we've got a lot of people that are backstage hanging out we'll get the sign and stuff there's uh you guys know ashley st claire get on out here ashley. Libby Emmons is here. Seamus is here. And listen, I have liberated all of the spoons that Seamus took. Guys, I would never do that. You know I would never do that. I have liberated them.
Starting point is 02:14:40 They're all back. Welcome, ladies. Well, hello. Hi, Phil. How are you? How is everyone doing? Seamus fought me backstage. That's not true. She's ladies. Hi, Phil. How is everyone doing? Seamus fought me backstage. That's not true.
Starting point is 02:14:48 She tried to pick a fight. He insulted me. He did lose. I have a photojournalist. Libby Emmons photographed this event. It was vicious. You guys know I would never do that. You know me.
Starting point is 02:15:02 You know I would never do that. It's nonsense. No, he didn't win. You know I would never do that. He did. It's nonsense. It was actually pretty funny. But you also know that Ashley wouldn't lie. Yes, she would. Firstly, she's a woman. Evidence right there.
Starting point is 02:15:13 Oh! She would fail to tell. I feel like we sort of moved the seating around. It's like girls versus boys right now. I feel like we need a round of applause for Hannah Clare's jumper, though. Everybody needs to see Hannah Clare's outfit. First of all, Hannah Clare, you've got to show it. This is a fantastic jumper, guys.
Starting point is 02:15:31 This will be the highlight of your night. Hannah Clare, show everybody the outfit. The corduroy jumper. We need a fit check. There you go. Look at that. Look at that. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Oh, my gosh. How are you doing, Phil? I'm doing well. How are you? You crushed it. Thank you. You crushed it, yeah. Phil, I really think you were the backbone of all of this.
Starting point is 02:15:48 You know, Phil was to this show what black trans women are to democracy. Just the backbone of it. It's the reason for me. Not putting all of it up. I was in the back eating sandwiches half the night. Like sandwiches in seltzer waters. I didn't have any sandwiches. That's a shame.
Starting point is 02:16:03 I did have a lot of penne, though. You're supposed to be making them as a woman. I'm supposed to be making them. That's a shame. I did have a lot of penne, though. You're supposed to be making them as a woman. That's really offensive. That's actually not something you should say. Are you going to fight me backstage again? I just don't think that's an appropriate thing to say about women. I don't appreciate you denigrating them in my presence. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Did everyone have a great night? Did you guys have a good time? What is this? Oh, is this the tie? Yes, thank you. I feel like we need some sort of question or topic for these people. Thank you. Should we take a question? Should we be bold and take a question from the audience?
Starting point is 02:16:33 There's going to be plenty of time. Raise their hand, get the question. Phillip, you shut your mouth. Yay, Josie! Josie's here. Viva Friday is here. Where's Clint? How beautiful is she? Josie's here. Viva Friday's here. They were in the back. Look at Josie's outfit. Where's Clint?
Starting point is 02:16:50 Where is Clint Russell? We've got so many people hanging out. This man has a question. Don't get any of us canceled, okay? Yeah, what's your question? Yes, you should wear the tie. What is it? Where are the spoons, Seamus?
Starting point is 02:17:07 I have no idea where the spoons are because I had nothing to do with their disappearance. Next question. Thank you. For those of you who don't know, Seamus has been stealing spoons from the Timcast properties for quite some time now. Everyone knows I would not do that.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Hey, can I guess, you guys, who was your favorite guest to do IRL with? Because we've all done it a couple different times. Favorite or most entertaining? Whichever one, man. I mean, it was cool when people I know show up. So, like, when the AK guy came, Brandon Herrera. If there's anybody from Texas, you should be voting for Brandon Herrera.
Starting point is 02:17:43 So I think that was him. What's up, Viva Fry? How you should be voting for Brent Herrera. So I think that was him. What's up, Viva Fry? How you doing? Now I can hear myself. We got Canadian bacon in the house. Yeah. I guess, like, Ashley St. Clair was just my favorite person. In terms of favorites, I thought that Tim Ballard was incredible.
Starting point is 02:17:58 I mean, just the work that that man has done is absolutely unbelievable. And to be able to speak with him was such an immense privilege. So I would say Patrick, I'm sorry sorry patrick he was just saying i did like actually having him on that was interesting to watch just like yeah i'm shifting in and out of people you know i really like james o'keefe a lot no i would say that tim ballard ultimately there are there have been many guests who i've genuinely enjoyed speaking with who i thought we had a great conversation with and who i thought we had a very impactful show with, I would put Tim Ballard at the top of the list. And that's really a
Starting point is 02:18:28 high bar, because Tim has really brought many incredible people onto the show. And he's doing some incredible work, too. How many of you guys saw Sound of Freedom? Look at that! That's incredible. I had a great time with Andy Ngo on TimCast. I had a great time
Starting point is 02:18:44 listening to that show. James O'Keefe was great. James O'Keefe is also great. He's very sincere. I had a fun time with Carl Benjamin the other night. That was really cool. Carl was great. Carl was great.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Yeah, really interesting. Actually, my favorite's probably been Luke Rutkowski. Man. Stock up. Great stocking. I love talking to that guy. Right into his mouth. The boot is as deep as he can.
Starting point is 02:19:04 Do you have someone you would love to see on TimCast IRL? Who has not already been on TimCast? Can you like, you know, sorry to our bookers. Has Tom McDonald been on TimCast? No. No. Then I would like to see Tom McDonald on TimCast. It sounds like the crowd agrees with you.
Starting point is 02:19:20 They're interested in Tom McDonald. Or? If you don't know Tom McDonald, he's a fantastic rapper. What's some of his top songs, Viva? Oh, I Wish, Renegade Album. I mean, he's amazing. He speaks against the establishment, really. It's amazing music.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Does everybody know Tom McDonald? Okay, there you go. Does everyone know Samson? Smile, everyone. Samson would also be... Samson, the metal band? No, Samson is another rapper, politically oriented. Amazing.
Starting point is 02:19:49 And all of his songs, all of his rap songs are like one unedited lip sync of the song. The lyrics are phenomenal. He had a great January 6th song, a great trans person... I didn't know he had a January 6th song. Oh, yeah, it's called The Sixth Sense. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:20:03 Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Hi, Serge. So, yeah, it's called The Sixth Sense. It's amazing. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Hi, Serge. So would you perform with Tom McDonald if he came on TimCast? Would you, Viva Frye, perform with him? There are three things I don't do. Act, dance, and sing. So none of those.
Starting point is 02:20:16 So you should do all three right now. No, someone would have to do a remix afterwards, and it would be good. Listen, rap, when you're rapping, you just have to really believe it. It's all about performance. You can't just phone it in. You have to deliver.
Starting point is 02:20:32 It's a lot like talking politics. I would also mention this. Speaking of Tom's, who need to be on the show, I know this is very unlikely because he has many opportunities and he's also older, but he's an immense intellect, and I think Thomas Sowell on the show
Starting point is 02:20:47 would be incredible if we ever had that opportunity. That would be awesome. He's really incredible. I mean, I understand it's very unlikely, but if I could really shoot for the stars, I would say Thomas Sowell. I believe in you, Seamus. I think you can do anything. Tim, make it happen, alright? I said you could do anything.
Starting point is 02:21:03 I'm busy. You're delegating? Yeah, exactly. Phil, do you have someone that you'd love to see on IRL? I mean, it'd be cool to get Peterson on. It's like, man, I'm on all the time when you're on the show. You have to travel into the underworld and rescue your father, man! The real one.
Starting point is 02:21:20 Not that you're... What about Fauci's name? Would Fauci come on the show? You know, that's actually... This is a common misconception. I don't do the Fauci voice in the Freedom Tunes videos. Tim does. Tim does. I can't believe I even made that mistake. Are you able to do a Fauci impression?
Starting point is 02:21:32 I can. To be honest, I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I think Tim's is better, but I can do Fauci. Try anything right now. You have to wear three masks to stop the spread of the virus from happening. That's my Fauci. Are you guys ever going to wear masks again?
Starting point is 02:21:45 That's also my impression of you. You're never going to wear masks again, right? I live in New York City. I feel like they'll try. I feel like they'll try. You're definitely wearing masks again. I'm not wearing a mask again. You have children.
Starting point is 02:21:55 You're definitely going to. No. No way. You're going to have to go to some parent-teacher meeting, and next thing you know. Phil, you're missing the part where they still don't let parents in the schools mask. Ooh. Ooh. What do you think the next mask is, though? Like, they tried masks. Phil, you're missing the part where they still don't let parents in the schools mask.
Starting point is 02:22:07 What do you think the next mask is though? Like they tried masks. What do you mean? I think that the only mask anyone should go with is the crocheted one that Alyssa Milano wore. Oh my god. I like Lana Del Rey's like bedazzled kind of clear one. I think also the only other ones that you can wear in the next pandemic are going to be trans
Starting point is 02:22:23 flag masks because otherwise you're racist. I'm just going to stop shaving my mustache and let it grow. Well, I used to wear those transparent ones, and I called it the face lingerie because it was like nothing, like pantyhose for your face. Disgusting. It's modest. You shouldn't show your face up like that.
Starting point is 02:22:37 Really. Then all of the airlines, they caught on and they banned them. You're such a trendsetter. Do you think that the right sets any trends? Like what trends does the right set? Insurrections. But only the one time. That is bullshit.
Starting point is 02:22:48 And then we didn't do it again. That was once. No, like, if that was, first of all, that is not an insurrection. It barely was a riot. And, like, that is not a trend. It was mostly peaceful. It was mostly peaceful. Well, do you remember when far-left protesters literally surrounded the White House
Starting point is 02:23:05 and forced the president into a bunker and the mainstream media response to it was to say that it was mean that Donald Trump cleared those people away so he could go to the church across the street from the White House the next day? You know what's funny now? The narrative there was it was mean
Starting point is 02:23:18 that Trump didn't let them burn the church down, right? But now what they're doing is now, like, on the right, Trump is getting attacked for not having come down harder during the 2020 riots, and he tried to launch the National Guard all over the country. He tried to do all this stuff, and everyone refused to let him, you know? And now he's getting slammed for not having done the things that everyone prevented him from doing.
Starting point is 02:23:39 I've got an operating theory that if Democrats could be convinced that Trump being Speaker of the House would expose him to jail time, they would appoint him to Speaker of the House. So I don't know if he's got the immunity that he'd have as Speaker of the House, if that would override the gag orders. But if they were under the impression that he could incriminate himself by being Speaker of the House, we could see a Trump Speaker of the House. How likely do you think it is that he would be Speaker of the House? I think it's entirely unlikely. 0.004.
Starting point is 02:24:04 He just endorsed Jim Jordan. He just endorsed Jim Jordan. He just endorsed Jim Jordan, so he's obviously tapped out. I think it would be very entertaining. I think Jim Jordan will be a very good Speaker. How likely is it? I don't know. I don't know, because here's the thing. A lot of people didn't think that Kevin McCarthy would be ousted.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Yeah, but look, for Trump, it boils down to, is he going to get two scoops of ice cream? If he does, then he'll take the job. Because all he wants to do is be a pain in the ass in D.C. Like, if he's not going to be the president, he wants to just stick it to as many people in D.C. He doesn't want to be speaker. But he wouldn't even try to be speaker.
Starting point is 02:24:38 He'd just sit there and he'd talk shit. But that's why he endorsed Jordan. And he'd have to be at Congress every day. I mean, right now, even with the legal burden they have. Congress is not at Congress every day. No. It's there enough where he has more flexibility right now as a private citizen, campaign president.
Starting point is 02:24:54 Well, here's another reason why he might entertain the idea. If it would postpone some of the trials that were scheduled to start on the Monday before Super Tuesday, he could talk, postpone some trials, and be the biggest pain in the ass for the Democrats ever. It's not going to happen. That's the big redeeming factor, right? Like, at least for me,
Starting point is 02:25:09 just being a massive pain in the dick. He's a dick, specifically. Why not the ass? He'll do what he can to upset them. As he should. That's his motivation. I hope Kevin McCarthy's not the last one. I think it's ridiculous that we think that it's causing a problem
Starting point is 02:25:27 to hold our politicians accountable, that we say do your job or get the hell out. Yeah, well, this is one of the wonderful things about Donald Trump. I mean, there are certain issues I take with him policy-wise and with respect to certain things that he said, but people will try to argue, oh, Trump is insincere with what he advocates for, but the one thing you can never accuse Trump of being insincere about
Starting point is 02:25:46 is who his enemies are and who he dislikes. And all of the people who he dislikes are terrible people who are trying to harm the American public, and he is very much trying to stand between the public and them. In many instances, not all the time. Again, there's certain things that I disagree with. But the man knows who his enemies are, and his enemies certainly know. Do you guys think that there's any chance
Starting point is 02:26:07 that there's going to be any more Ukraine funding after this? Oof. Probably. The tide seems to be changing on that. No, after there's a new speaker. I mean, a new speaker, if they put through any Ukraine funding, they're going to get this Bud Light treatment that gave McCarthy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:26:24 I think there's no chance. Did you see, like, as soon as McCarthy was out, you had Biden rushing to reassure all of the allies that there was going to be more Ukraine funding. And then you had Zelensky rushing to Spain being like, no, there's going to be more funding from the U.S. Meanwhile, anybody who becomes speaker and tries to get Ukraine funding through is going to be forced out of office.
Starting point is 02:26:49 Yeah, let's just make sure they don't wear a foreign nation's flag like McCarthy did. That was horrifying. Or hang the flag. I know who you see. He doubled up. He had the pin and then he had the handkerchief. That was embarrassing. You could have been out right then. If that's the most embarrassing thing,
Starting point is 02:27:05 that would be one step lower than Justin Trudeau and the Canadian Parliament giving a standing ovation. There is nothing that has happened in the United States, in Washington, D.C., that is as embarrassing as what has been going on in Canada. And to that, we have to say thank you, Canada, for making us not be as humiliated. Also, thank Justin Trude, for making us not be as humiliated. Also, thank
Starting point is 02:27:26 Justin Trudeau for making it known once again that there was and is in fact a Nazi problem in Ukraine. Like, we were told it was all, you know, fabricated fake news, Russian propaganda. And then you have Zelensky in Parliament standing ovation, two of them, for
Starting point is 02:27:42 a former SS soldier because they were fighting the big bad Russians back in World War II. Nobody knew exactly what that meant and for whom you were fighting. You know what was really great about that? So the Speaker of the House of Commons took full responsibility for having brought the Nazi to Parliament, even though it was pretty clear that Trudeau knew about it in advance and was set to meet with the guy.
Starting point is 02:28:04 And then Trudeau, like a total fucking pussy, was like, you know what, let's do... Libby Emmons is a fucking badass. Yeah, the Trudeau to Nazi pipeline. He was like, you know what, let's do is let's throw the speaker under the bus. He got the speaker fired. The speaker resigned, rather.
Starting point is 02:28:20 I mean, now they have a new guy in. But it was interesting talking to one of my Canadian writers at the Postmillennial about the McCarthy ouster because he didn't realize that the Speaker is third in line for the presidency. And he was like, oh, that person's way less important in Canada. Well, that's why Trump needs to come in and then impeach Joanne Kamala.
Starting point is 02:28:37 And then he's president again. And everybody's simplest path to the White House. What was incredible about the Trudeau thing was with the Nazi getting the standing ovation, he had said, well, you know, he made mistakes in his past, as if being a Nazi was like a little oopsie-doopsie. Dude, there are people who tweeted something 10 years ago who were supposed to ostracize forever,
Starting point is 02:28:59 and this guy was a Nazi. Like, look, we all make mistakes. Megan Murphy pointed out that a man was a man on Twitter in 2018 by saying, yeah, him. And she got banned from the platform, and now she's not even allowed to speak in her home province. Like, they just cancelled one of her talks in Vancouver. Yo, Canada's
Starting point is 02:29:15 fucking awesome. It's hilarious, man. They're like, yeah, you're poor. We're gonna help you commit suicide. What were you gonna say, Viva? I was gonna say, if anybody goes back and watches the guy, the House Speaker introducing the Nazi soldier, it's clear he's reading something
Starting point is 02:29:29 that he didn't draft himself. There's no chance nobody knew who this guy was. It was Chrystia Freeland who drafted her Nazi grandfather. There's no question. And by the way, I think you all know
Starting point is 02:29:39 that the person they replaced the House Speaker with, his name is Greg Fergus, is a liberal politician who also has an ethics violation, just like his boss. Yep, a recent one, 2023. He allegedly wrote a letter to the CRTC
Starting point is 02:29:53 pressuring them to put on a channel that had to do with a racially oriented channel, and he's not allowed doing that because as his position of power, he had an ethics violation. He's only got one. Trudeau's got two, so two so he's got some aoc has some ethics violations as well why do you think do you want to date her or something i would criticize her i'm way that's true anyone who wants to criticize you is in love with her i want to ask you though why do you think uh americans
Starting point is 02:30:21 don't take canada seriously it seems like you guys do all sorts of crazy things, and Americans generally sort of turn a blind eye until it gets out of hand. Can you imagine taking seriously a country whose leader is known for his hair, his socks, and his ethics violations? And being Castro's son. And wearing blackface.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Multiple times. Multiple times. Allegedly groping. He's addicted to doing blackface. That's like his version of Joe Biden sniffing hair. He can't stop. You know, they ask him, like, how many pictures do you have? And he says, I don't want to give an answer because there might be more than I have. I can't remember. And he allegedly.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Is that what he said? He says, I don't want to give a number because it might be more. And many people don't know, he was alleged to have groped a reporter inappropriately in 2000. And when he apologized, he says, I apologize for the way she felt. It's like the Mel Gibson family I apologize. He didn't like it? That's the mansplaining version, right? Oh, I'm sorry, you felt like I grabbed your breasts
Starting point is 02:31:13 inappropriately. Yeah, how do you take a country... Canada's nice, but we've been made fun of for a while, and we have made ourselves the objects of jokes for decades to come. I think it's funny that when Trump was elected, a lot of Americans were like, if Trump's elected, I'm going to go move to Canada. I think it's funny that when Trump was elected, a lot of Americans were like, if Trump's elected,
Starting point is 02:31:26 I'm going to go move to Canada. And instead, I just keep meeting Canadians who've moved to the U.S. They're like, I live in Florida now. I live in Texas. There are so many Canadians in Florida. Canadians, just anecdotally, from my family's experience, they love Florida. You see the amount of Canadians in the audience tonight?
Starting point is 02:31:41 I mean, I ran into a bunch. There are? There's a ton. I ran into a guy who drove down from Toronto. Another one who flew in from Saskatchewan. Very cool. There was one here speaking French, came in from Quebec. Who's from Canada here? There you go.
Starting point is 02:31:57 Is anyone from Newfoundland? That's what I'm specifically interested in. Why are you specifically interested? Because that's where my family is from, Canada. And it joined Canada last. It joined, I think, in 1949. Yes, exactly. It's called The Rock,
Starting point is 02:32:10 the easternmost point of continental North America, Cape Spear. We're basically still part of England, us Newfoundlanders. You can get to the easternmost point of Newfoundland. I thought it was Newfoundland. Newfoundland? That's like the American way to say it.
Starting point is 02:32:23 Some say Newfoundland. That's gross. I think it's like a three-hour flight from the tip of Newfoundland? That's like the American way to say it. Some say Newfoundland. That's gross. I think it's like a three-hour flight from the tip of Newfoundland to the nearest point of Europe, and you can fly like an RC to have these competitions, but it's out in the middle of nowhere, Newfoundland. Just like I like it. Okay, do you guys have any predictions for 2024?
Starting point is 02:32:39 What do you think is going to be the biggest headline of 2024? Can't do this. It'll be like a crazy Mad Libs game, and then everyone here will have witnessed it. I have a dire prediction that it will be something related to political violence. Okay. And I don't want to get, I can't get more specific, but I think that that is probably going to be. Bill has $10 on political violence. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 02:33:01 That's bad news. But that's a good bet bet because that's already happening. Well, also, I mean, like, real bad. The Summer of Love 2020. That's the kind of stuff where they might try to, like, say, well, we need to do something
Starting point is 02:33:14 to affect the way that people vote because of the violence. But that's what we get. That's what they promise, right? They give us the violence and then they promise to take it away. That is how communists work.
Starting point is 02:33:23 They create the problem and then they offer the solution for the problem i think it would be more subtle than that i don't know that it would be civilian violence more over doj weaponization against the everyday person because we're seeing that right now with trump with other people who are figureheads and i think that's going to expand out into the general population. We've got a hard stop at 1030, so we've got to start wrapping up. Josie, the red-headed little girl. We have a hard stop at 1030. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:52 All right, a couple more minutes. We have 60 seconds, guys. Thank you all for coming, but we have a hard stop at 1030. We love you all. Love all of you. I'll put in one prediction. Okay, what's one prediction? Joe Biden will not be the Democrat nominee.
Starting point is 02:34:06 I like that. And Kamala will win in a landslide because she's so popular. It's not going to be. It will not be Kamala. She loves yellow school buses. She's going to blow the competition away. Seamus, what's your prediction for 2024? You can't do that to me.
Starting point is 02:34:19 No, we've got to do it. That's because she's unworthy. You have one minute, Seamus. After 2016, I was pretty much done making predictions about electoral politics. Seamus abstains from the vote. Phil, what is political violence? Ashley, you have one for 2024? Yeah, I think more weaponization of the DOJ against the American people.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Okay. I think Taylor Swift and that football are probably going to break up. Okay. We're going to get the best album ever. I like the way you worded that like she's dating a football. I don't know. One of those sports
Starting point is 02:34:48 balls. We got a hard one. It is 1030. Thank you guys very much for coming. I love you all. Thank you for coming out.
Starting point is 02:34:55 We appreciate you all. We love you all. You guys have a good night, all right? Thank you guys. Show it to me.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.