Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #880 Biden CONFIRMS Kids Beheaded, Hamas Calls For GLOBAL Jihad On Friday w/Chadwick Moore

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Chadwick Moore to discuss media reporting Joe Biden confirmed evidence of Hamas beheading children, BLM Chicago celebrating the Hamas terrorists, Hamas calling for a global jihad on Friday, & Cenk Uygur announcing he is running for president. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Biden stated that he's seen and confirmed that children have been beheaded in Israel following the terror attack by Hamas. There are still many people who are skeptical, and I think that's still fair. But at this point, we have CBS News saying that they've gotten word from emergency first responders in Israel. And Joe Biden is making this claim. It is still entirely possible. Just look, I remain skeptical, skeptical. But I mean, it's it's it's it's it's tough, right? We saw what they did.

We've I watched another video today of Hamas killing civilians. These videos, they exist. You can watch them. Well, certainly some of these videos are probably fake and repurposed. There are some that are undeniable. So when you hear that children have had their heads removed, I mean, the challenge is like it's more believable than any claim we've heard in a long time. Now, with Joe Biden saying it, I'm not about to start believing Joe Biden or the mainstream press.

So the only thing I can say to this is take it for what you will. You decide what you think is or isn't. And that's the best we can do until we have some kind of hard evidence this is what we've got we also have one of the leaders and founders of hamas calling for global jihad on friday calling on people to to make it to attack uh target jewish people to target israel and so i hope everybody is just uh paying attention you don't got you don so I hope everybody is just paying attention. You don't got to be paranoid, but paying attention because it's getting serious with this stuff. It's kind of freaky. So we're going to talk about that. Before we get started, my friends,

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was taken off the air. So we actually pushed back publication, updated the book. I spent last year working on this, hanging out with him. I was regular on his show, which is how I knew him. And everyone seems to be really enjoying it. And yeah, that's basically me. I'm also a contributing editor at The Spectator as well. Right on. Well, glad to have you. We also got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. I'm excited for tonight's conversation. Ian's here too. Hi, everyone. Ian Crossland. Hey, Chadwick, when you were writing that book, did you write about when Jon Stewart went on Crossfire, was it? Man, that was

transformative for Tucker. I watched it in real time. I think it was the moment it happened. It was like, it was like humiliating, but also he took it seriously because you could tell he had a respect for Jon and like he became like a pioneer for justice after that. It was incredible. Jon Stewart did. Oh no, Tucker. Tucker, like he started to step away from the mainstream and was like, maybe this warmongering isn't necessarily the right way. And he started to think for himself after that. It was really powerful.

So behind the scenes, John Stewart, he went on that show and he lambasted Tucker Carlson and his co-host saying, Crossfire's bad for America. It's just you pundits going back and forth. And then as soon as, and they say it killed the show, Crossfire. Crossfire was taken off the air after that. All of America was siding with Jon Stewart. Yes, we hate this fighting. I mean, look at us now, right?

Yeah. After the cameras stopped rolling, Jon Stewart, who was there to promote his book, said to them, you know, I miss came to town and he trashed you guys and got forwarded a new station. So I think this worked out well for me. It was all planned. And then Jon Stewart, the other guy was Tucker's co-host,

whose name slipped my mind right now, wouldn't take, Jon Stewart wouldn't take any of their calls after that. He's a total nasty person. Wow. I got all that in the book. Yeah, I put all that stuff in the book. We'll talk more about it. Yeah, we'll get Tucker and John Stewart in the room together.

That'll be like culture work. John Stewart wouldn't take my call either when I wanted to interview him. We got Serge on my right. What's happening, brother? Yeah, I'm here. I'm excited for another exciting episode of Timcast. Let's get to it. Here's the story from the New York Post. Biden says he's seen confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children in Israel.

President Biden said on Wednesday that he has seen confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children in southern Israel following initial reports that up to 40 babies were butchered over the weekend in homes near the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip. Quote, I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. I never thought I'd ever. Anyway, that's one way to end that statement. I think we actually have the clip. Not here, but here. Let's play this one.

I mean, I've been doing this a long time. I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. I never thought I'd ever. Anyway, I. But there are. Countries in the region are trying to be of some help, including Arab nations. Now, still with this, I'm not I'm not absolutely convinced. And the issue is, one, I'm not about to start believing Joe Biden. The dude is corrupt as they come. There are special interests that want war in the Middle East.

These people despise Donald Trump. And one of the strongest, one of the biggest reasons is that Donald Trump was trying to bring peace to the Middle East. These people despise Donald Trump. And one of the biggest reasons is that Donald Trump was trying to bring peace to the Middle East. Donald Trump was trying to remove US involvement. When we talk about how Russia did not invade Ukraine under the Trump administration, they say, yeah, it's because Trump was serving

Vladimir Putin. I'm like, yeah, I mean, maybe it's because Donald Trump was like, this is none of our business. We should stop supporting these terror groups, whether directly or indirectly. We should stop invading these countries for oil and mind our own business. And Russia was like, well, if you're not pressing on our borders, we're not, you know, we've got no reason to fight. They get Trump out, they come in and it's war, it's conflict, it's expansion. And so this, this narrative is extremely shocking.

Based on the videos I've seen it's it's it's unfortunately whether you whether you want to accept it or not it's easy to believe they did this right that's the scary thing well they also thought trump was a lunatic yeah they thought he was a loose cannon they had no idea there was some meeting that actually tucker told me this story working on this that trump leaned over to vladimir putin and said if you invade if you invade ukraine when i'm president that will nuke this shit out of moscow Putin believed him. And nobody wanted to mess with Trump. They thought he was a total loose cannon, which of course I don't think he was at all. But that I think is a good impression. It wasn't a bad image to have.

It was not a bad image to have. You kind of want the rest of the world, especially your enemies, to think that about your leader for sure. Yeah, for sure. They don't want to be able to predict you. I mean, the problem right now is that the loss of life is always tragic. Violence is obviously detestable. But Joe Biden is not a trustworthy president. And so it is hard to believe anything that would come out of his administration, even if it is something awful like this. You don't want to believe they would lie about being able to confirm this.

On the other hand, you just can't trust them. Look at everything they've lied about. That's yeah. And again, we mentioned also horrible than the year of testimony from 1990 that got us into the first Gulf War. Yes. I don't like the way he said the word confirmed in that speech he said these pictures i've seen confirmed like it was like um he's dropping the word like they said talking points make sure you say the word confirmed when you talk about this i said yesterday prepare for deep fake that we're in another modern this modern war it's gonna be technology you've never

seen before utilized and when they tell you some something happened and then some days later you're going to start to see blurry images or images be wary don't snap to emotions well there's a really funny one don jr posted a video is extremely graphic it is brutal and it is of israeli civilians being killed by hamas community notes were placed on it saying old video and fake because a pro-palestinian activist posted a screenshot of a thumbnail of the video over and over again with the date of 2016 or something like that but it is believed now that that was fake and the video is real and now wired has contacted the government and done a deeper analysis on on i guess the metadata in the video and found donald trump jr was correct the video was from israel

and it appears that activists are trying to make fake screenshots to trick people into thinking they're fake you know we are in a whole new world of information warfare it's entirely possible that wired got bunk information from the government to convince us the videos are real who knows what are you doing but but i i will i will defer to if you've got the biden administration and donald trump jr and like everyone's kind of like yeah this is probably true i think you're gonna have to go with that right if people who absolutely despise each other are like uh you know this is real yeah If both warring parties are agreeing on it. Well, it doesn't seem far-fetched from what we know about this group of people.

Nobody thinks this isn't something they wouldn't do. There are undeniable videos. Yeah. Right. So there are videos where it's like, I don't know what this is. Right. It's a guy and it's like running through a field. And I'm like, the video that Don Jr. posted was tough.

It's like people in a room being shot. And I'm like, man, that's brutal. But then there are videos that are very easily and discernibly of southern Israel at an event where you can corroborate the pictures of the music festival and you're watching people be shot. And it's just like this happened. Like we know these videos are real. That's the easy thing where it's like the story of these babies being killed, beheaded.

You don't need it. Hamas did it. And not only that, a mad respect to max blumenthal coming on the show and talking about he's more pro-palestine but he outright said hamas's strategy is to target as many civilians as possible to use his bargaining chips for against israel they are kidnapping civilians that's their tactic he called it a target of opportunity and i'm like make no mistake this is not in dispute we we know what they're doing i was thinking you know it's horrible it is absolutely i mean it's one of the most horrific things you do to kill somebody and to

kill a small child is like the most horrific thing but like what's more horrific if someone cuts off the head of a baby or if someone blows up six babies with a bomb yeah yeah tim's right like you don't need it they don't need this to sell the case yeah the the the rationale for faking it doesn't make any much sense right and the other thing too uh i think it was it was you know there are a lot of people that were critical of max blumenthal because he does have a more pro-palestinian stance but he knows a lot about this and he actually pushed back on some of there there's a conspiracy they were going around that israel knew this was going to happen and a lot of people are pushing some prominent personalities saying that they knew it was going to happen they let it happen because now they can use as an excuse to go into gaza and do all this stuff

and bomb them and max was like no way absolutely not he was he said israel uh was humiliated there uh many there's a lot of private technology and security firms in israel that pride themselves on being the best and this is true because i've covered this stuff going back 10 years with Occupy. There are many surveillance companies that are born out of Israel that are like, we're the best. Israel proves it. This is extremely bad for this sector, the security sector. And he also wanted to mention things. I don't want to comment too much on much because i'm not the expert on it but the the military doctrine that israel has in terms of

captured idf soldiers is so extreme he said israel would never allow one of their soldiers to be captured i mean the idea that they let this happen is just there's no way yeah and that's he's pro he's more pro-palestine i mean i think i find it interesting i think the big problem is going to be the deluge of information especially fighting war in the technology age right we're going to have videos that surface from wherever we're already seeing that community notes are they're they're finding ways to work around these potential safeguards that we have uh the thing that i saw a lot today was parents warning or like parents groups warning parents to have their kids delete tiktok and all their social media platforms while this goes on because it's permeating through

all the algorithms so you're having young teenagers seeing very violent images. And of course, that's deeply serving. On the other hand, if you're cutting all kinds of people off from information, not that teenagers should see violence, it starts to get very dystopian, right? We don't know what's real and we don't know who should be seeing it. We don't know where to stop it from coming from. Man, the community notes thing, I think, was obvious. It is good that you have these community notes because some of these things are very easily and provably false but i have seen on more than one occasion people manipulate community notes it's basically if enough people say something is true

they'll just run with it and then you end up with community notes that are like unrelated to the tweets or in this instance someone made what appears i guess the story would be this guy's screenshot was fake to trick people and it's remarkable don jr posts a video and then some guy posts some screenshot of with with no website address it's a pictures of thumbnails with a date on it and that was enough for people on community notes to say don trump's posting fake news i mean it's amazing is community notes any better than wikipedia? Wikipedia can be edited and Wikipedia self-censor. So we don't really know what information is provable. There's a reason we tell high school is you can't cite Wikipedia or maybe community notes

in your term papers. It's all gotta follow the sources. And the interesting thing was that the source on this community note was some guy's tweet. And then and now people are responding to John Jr. Being like Wired did a deep analysis on the video and found the source and said it's real like it was recorded here here's all the confirmation it's crazy apparently there are like other angles or something i don't know well i and especially in don jr's case i'm sure they want don jr to look like he is promoting something crazy because

of his last name right you know it's sort of a trap from the beginning for him yeah or but then why it was forced to defend him which and why they did not like it all thank you yeah uh we were talking about this before the show that it's there's a lot of um people who thought they were on the same side who are now realizing perhaps they are not when it comes to this issue and i think that's going to be uh maybe i obviously i don't want to be born on, you know, the backs of death and violence. But on the other hand, reconciling that it's not just the two sides and no one has any lane of compromise is sort of a hard thing to put American culture through. It's just so hard to believe because we've always known. I guess like you're talking about like BLM and Antifa.

Sure. We've always known that about them. We always know that about the college left, that they were super, super pro-Palestine violence be damned. But I don't think the mainstream left realized it. I mean, I'm maybe not the one to ask, but I think, because I had known people who would come out as, you know, I have Jewish friends who have come out as pro-Palestine years and years before,

and it would really shock their community. And I found that to be interesting. It's not something that I would necessarily have a personal ability to comment on, but I think there is more division than they realize because they're especially progressive left is used to being a unified front all the time yeah let's uh let's let's let's talk about black lives matter we have this from abc news blm chicago backs palestine after hamas terror invasion of israel and this is causing a major backlash and tons of democrats are now disavowing black lives matter this is going to be a huge break in the culture war because now

you've got democrats who are like wait a minute you mean the far left we've supported want israelis to be killed yeah take a look at this tweet this is an archive it was deleted from blm chicago it says that is all that is it and it says i stand with palestine and it's a it's a paraglider with a palestinian flag the paragliders are the ones who went into the music festival and started killing civilians they did more than just kill they right kidnapped raped kidnapped yeah uh children and so this is this is an image explicitly supporting the tactic of targeting civilians look man we we sit here and we complain about war all day and when the u.s has collateral damage you complain about it we support julian assange he released collateral murder we see we see these these war crimes we criticize obama we criticize trump killing civilians is wrong israel kills

if they don't say it's wrong the the however, is in the instance of Israel, oftentimes what they're saying is they've built a weapons depot and a military base under a hospital. We've given them a warning and we're going to take it out. I say, okay, do I take Israel's word for it? Well, the one thing I can say is Israel at least is saying that much. We are trying to avoid killing civilians. Well, okay. I don't trust governments, right? Everyone's got an agenda, but I can accept that. You then have Barack Obama's ridiculous nonsense excuse for killing an American citizen in Yemen.

They've never answered for, and that's evil. But this is overtly celebrating the tactic of targeting civilians intentionally. That's Black Lives Matter. Max Blumenthal, he was on last night, and he said that these guys were paratrooping to hit a military target and landed next to the target in the music festival, and it was an attack of opportunity as opposed to a target.

A target of opportunity. Well, in that case... I don't know if it really... I don't know how much it matters. Wait, wait, wait. I mean, if he's being factual, he's being factual. Yes, but in terms of celebrating it still. I mean, that image now is still the image of attacking

civilians at a music festival. It's not a, you know, the wind blew the wrong way. We actually meant Yeah, when they made this image, they knew what they were exactly. And they kept it up for hours. It wasn't like, oops, delete. 20,000 comments or something before they decided, someone decided to take it down. What I want to be careful of is, you know,

people were being critical of Max yesterday. They're like, oh, I can't believe he would downplay. No, no, no, hold on. If it is a fact that Hamas was intending to target military bases, that would make sense. They say, we want to hit military bases. And then as they're coming through the sky, they say, hey, look, civilians, let's get them,

because it is a known tactic to target civilians to use as bargaining chips against Israel. Max said all that too. If are facts accept them it proves definitively or i should say a journalist with a pro by with a pro palestine bias explicitly told us their strategy is target civilians yeah i think why why why would they attack an israeli military base on paraglider i mean the idf is scary no heat you're not going to barge in. Well, what he was saying is that it caught him off guard. And it was humiliating.

It was quiet, off radar, because they're so low to the ground and no heat, probably. What I find fascinating in the whole thing is that there are many people, prominent individuals, many who are very critical of Israel, saying that Israel knew this was coming and let it happen. And then you have Max, of all people, who is much more opposed to Israel's actions, being like, no, there's no way Israel knew this was coming and let it happen. And then you have Max, of all people,

who is much more opposed to Israel's actions, being like, no, there's no way Israel knew in advance. They were humiliated by this. Hamas was targeting the military bases and the music festival was nearby. And so it became a target of opportunity for them because it is a known tactic they use. But that wasn't the only place that was attacked. Right.

They went to a bunch of villages. A bunch of beaches and anywhere. So it makes me think that their primary target was take out the military perimeter and then with a secondary target of get as many civilians

as you can. It's evil. And this is the problem, right? I don't like war. I don't like the conflict. I don't like hearing about children dying in Gaza. All these tweets coming out

at the far left saying, oh, look at these innocent civilians. I'm like, yeah, it's all bad. It's all bad, dude. But yo, ask, I can ask this question of anyone and you're going to get the same answer the pro palestine side knows what the answer to this question is and they will try to avoid answering it what would happen to israel if they removed all of the security fencing around gaza and said free movement for all within gaza into

israel what would happen oh we know exactly what happened we watched it yeah we watched we watched what happened when they tore the fences down yeah there there's no question about that and so you know you talk to someone who's pro-palestine and they're going to say well i mean you know it's like oh we we get it this is the problem you complain about israel's doing in Gaza, but what's the answer? Well, these people are in open air prison. I'm like, yeah, and if they open the doors, it would be bloodshed. It would be murder. It would be massacres.

It would be war. It would be, you know, a lot of people talk about 1948 and how it was wrong for Israelis to push Palestinians off their land. And I'm just like, it's war. I don't have a good answer for you, man. War is bad. It sucks. But the answer today is not to just make the war worse that seems to be what hamas wants to do but

anyway back to the point like otherwise we're going to go in circles back to what black lives matter represents we also have a a democratic socialist member of congress he has quit the dsa and denounced them for their support of of all of this. Who was it? Let me let me let me pull up his name. Do you guys know his name? I had his Jamal Bowman. No. Was he part of the DSA? Sri.

Here we go. We got it. Sri Thanadar, congressman. He renounces. He's a let's see a proud Detroiter. Yeah. From Michigan. Michigan's 13 district.

And he renounces his membership in the DSA saying today I'm officially renouncing my membership in the DSA after the brutal terror attacks in Israel, which included the indiscriminate murder, rape, and kidnapping of innocent men, women, and children. I can no longer associate with an organization unwilling to call out terror in all its forms. Sunday's hate-filled and anti-Semitic rally in New York City, promoted by the New York DSA, makes it impossible for me to continue my affiliation. I stand with Israel and its right to defend itself. There is no place for moral equivocation in the face of unadulterated evil as we have seen from Hamas. I will continue to work towards the goals that brought me to Congress in the first place, universal health care, workers' rights,

strong labor unions, equity for communities of color, environmental justice, and compassionate immigration. My ideals have not changed at all. I strongly believe that ending my association with the DSA serves my constituents' interests as they expect me to represent them by helping to build a better, more just world, not fanning the flames of hatred. Shout out to Ryan Long,

who put out a video called Actor Doesn't Know Whether to Support Palestine or Israel. Because the fascinating thing is what we're seeing here with Shri, and there's another story about a bunch of harvard students who are being blacklisted and now they're putting out letters being like no we don't

support palestine we're so sorry we're so sorry the default position for a lot of these people was whatever the narrative is i support whatever popular thing is black lives matter was current thing we support it uh-oh blm not just blm in chic Chicago but LA came out in defense of what Hamas did and now if you tweet in support of BLM you will get canceled these people don't have convictions don't have morals and were marching in lockstep with what they thought was the power structure that meant when atrocities occurred with on video and we see innocent people being paraded around, murdered, kidnapped, etc. They ignore that and say, it doesn't matter. BLM is popular thing. Think about that. I want to reiterate that because that is that that explains the culture war so well for all of us. We can sit

here and be like, man, it's really bad when civilians died, no matter who does it. Right. What Hamas did is horrifying and atrocious. We don't want war. I'm skeptical of these videos and these stories. Did babies really get beheaded? Man, this is tough. We try to be reasonable. So many actors, members of Congress, Harvard students, knowing these videos emerged, thought, but the left is in power.

So I will just agree with whatever they say. And what happened? Major backlash. in power so i will just agree with whatever they say and what happened major backlash regular people were like bro you just defended literal terror attacks on innocent civilians the problem with people that are obsessed with domestic politics and have no idea what's going on geopolitically you got to know both well and i think in this case it's important to note that black lives matter is essentially saying the tactics hamas use are justified right if you have a political movement

within the United States that says essentially using civilians as pawns, harming them to get your political ends is worth doing. That's a very significant statement to take, right? We know the Black Lives Matter movements often end in riots and violence. The fact that they're lining up behind this kind of action is something we should all be extremely wary of. Yeah, they share violent means to an end philosophy, although... And they're confirming it on a geopolitical stage now. Of course, yeah. I'm just saying, they got passed off as being this, oh, we're peaceful, peaceful movement. And I think Tim's totally right. Ultimately,

people don't know enough about these issues to be able to say definitively how they feel about it, but they know they're supposed to say something. That why ryan long's fun video is so is so funny he knows he's supposed to take a stance he just doesn't know what it is because he takes his cues from everyone around him the issue is they don't care that many of the people who are who are waving blm flags and these progress pride flags don't know don't care all they're really saying is, I support what we view to be the cultural and institutional power. And so when the institutional powers do evil things, these people march in lockstep behind them. And that's what we talk about. I've mentioned that the progress pride flag is, is, is akin to the Nazi flag, not in that it represents the same ideology, but that it represents people blindly

marching behind what they view to be power. This that and now people are panicking i love this this harvard student the organization being like we never meant this no we're so we regret signing this letter in support of palestine money because we'll get our six-figure jobs when we graduate that's right yeah because now that they're realizing they're getting canceled right the only thing they ever cared about was looking like they fit in. No morals and no principles. But there's also, and I agree with you, but there's also, I mean, there's this ethos in the white liberal, I'll say white liberal, but culturally white, you know, the Western liberal.

I think you were touching on this too when they're suddenly horrified. It's this mentality and it's so racist. I know that word's so overused, but it exposes how extremely racist they are. That they look at people like Islamic terrorists. And it's the same way they look at inner city violence in black communities. And they think, and they look at Israel and they're like, Israel's a civilized country, so we hold them to a higher moral standard. We hold them to our moral standards. These third world people, they're stupid. Look at their skin colors, look how they live. We can't expect them to behave how we behave and they're so oppressed.

Israel is held to a different standard. cannot behave like this these people they just don't know any better and we have to be their custodians we have to stand up for them it's deeply that's that is the liberal ethos so much and but then you have the more violent wing like blm and antifa that actually are like no we want to see dead bodies and we hate these people we want communism now no it's it's crazy but the polite progressive class that's exactly what it is and now they're having this moral crisis of what side yeah i think that they're gonna have a really hard time reconciling this i think when people want to do uh the right thing they but they don't actually think about the issues just think about what their friends are doing they have no moral compass i mean with these harvard students you know if they really

believed in what they said they wouldn't have backed down nothing nothing should be worth compromising your values for. But it's not about values. It's about signaling that they have done the right things. It reminds me of, you know, and it's a terrible comparison to draw, but it reminds me of all of the people who suddenly became excited about various causes, like after the Parkland shooting, all these students who were suddenly deeply involved in gun violence and they would hold protests and whatever else. And then they would get into elite colleges because they were signaling that they were behind the right thing all the time. I mean, that's how we got David Hogg. Yes. And to what end? What are we doing to better serve the values of the community? Maybe they really stand by it, but ultimately it was the thing that they thought would level, would help them get an advantage moving forward. Yeah, of course. Like corporations virtue signaling, same thing. Well, this is the thing we have to do now. Yeah.

I think one of the challenging things coming out of Israel is just going to be the fact that so much, I know I said this earlier, but there's going to be so much information and so much visual media that there are going to be people who knee-jerk take a strong stance who then are going to back down and change their mind.

And I, again, with this congressman, I think that's a very solid move to renounce an organization that you have been a part of. And at one point would have served you to say, oh yeah, I'm a DSA member. Look how trendy and progressive I am. Yeah. I want to pull up this story from Wired. A graphic Hamas video Donald Trump Jr. shared on X is actually real. Research confirms a video posted by Donald Trump Jr. showing Hamas militants attacking Israelis was falsely flagged in a community note as being years old, thus making X's disinformation problem worse and not better. The first thing I say is many of these liberal journalists are really upset that Elon Musk is doing so well. So any opportunity to attack X is an opportunity they will take.

But in this instance, it actually ends up working out. Trump Jr. is being defended they're in a weird position where it's like well you know i guess i guess defending trump jr who's criticizing terror is the lesser of two evils or whatever yeah in their mind as leftists it's starting to be begrudgingly the lesser of two people maybe defending each other as americans might be the right way this is our weird healing moment so uh the gist of the story here and what i want to get into with this is it's it's all fake news and all manipulation right somebody i i'm not going to play the video it is it is beyond graphic it is it did not can you give a summary of what it was yeah it's a bunch of bodies on the ground being shot there's

there's it's graphic just understand it is just i i i don't even want to describe it yeah it's people dying and they're and you're watching it happen. Okay. It is brutal. And someone flagged it because they posted a screenshot saying the video was fake and from some other time or some other place. But it was a false flag. It was a false, likely someone made a fake screenshot.

And it's really easy to do. You can pull up the video on a search engine and then you can inspect and edit the script to make whatever dates you want to say and then screen grab. It's that easy. Or you just go and paintbrush and just change it. So apparently Wired did the groundwork and found, like, no, Donald Trump Jr. is not posting fake stuff. He's posting real stuff. And it's funny. Like, when Wired is defending Trump Jr., I mean, wow.

There's unity here in this country, I guess. But I want to bring up another another uh tweet here this is something i tweeted and uh let me see if i can get a bigger image of this the first image is a tweet from andy no where it's a palestinian palestine celebration rally in dearborn michigan where the speaker says when you go to a black lives matter rally you see palestinian flags when you go to a white supremacy Matter rally, you see Palestinian flags. When you go to a white supremacy rally, you see Israeli flags. And then a tweet from the ADL. White supremacist leaders are openly celebrating Hamas's attack on Israel, cheering.

Okay, you get the point. This is, like, so much is being exposed here. The lies of the machine are falling apart. The culture war is just imploding right now and we are being proven right. This right here is one of the best. Pro-Palestine groups claim white supremacists love Israel

and the ADL claims white supremacists are mocking Israel for being attacked. Yeah, are both true? I mean, this is nuts. According to the videos I saw, according to the ADL, white supremacy has a perfect ESG score. Yeah, right.

They're just covering all their bases yeah exactly and now there are a lot of people who are outraged that the adl and the splc have not condemned black lives matter as hate groups for supporting terrorism in israel and and jonathan greenblatt who is uh the head of the adl went on msnbc criticizing them of their coverage of this saying because they were calling it like you know militants and he's like these are terrorists who's writing these scripts like bro you defended these people relentlessly over the past years and we kept begging you stop man they're lying and now you get an overt act of terror undeniable like look i'm seeing libertarians who are like no war no intervention being like yo that was messed up what they did like wow like this is brutal and now the adl

nowhere to be found when blm i'm sorry dude the adl is being insulted and attacked by black lives matter who are supporting palestine hamas terrorists and they can't even come out and call them a hate group or or condemn it i think it just shows exactly what what these groups represent yeah the adl spent the last year telling, well, last many years, saying the worst example of anti-Semitism is anytime you bring up George Soros. There you have it. And then now look at this. We have all of it on video

and just totally silent. I would like to see the ADL and the SPLC publish their article saying Black Lives Matter is a hate, an anti-Semitic hate group. You know what's funny is we've known this since the Women's March. Yeah.

When Tablet Magazine published, like, they're pushing insane anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and there it is there it is everybody you know you know here's the problem this was uh man when was this this was like six years ago the aclu defended you know unite the right in charlottesville saying you have a right to free speech and then they started losing a bunch of donors. And then all of a sudden their message changed. Money talks. Yeah. It's like, like I mentioned, these Harvard kids who are like, no, we didn't mean to sign that letter in support of Hamas. Whoops. I mean, the SBC in particular pedals in fear, right? They're able to say, you know, you be nice to us or follow our talking points or we will put you on one of our lists and no one will want to hire you because

we'll try to make it so whenever you show up,'re basically a google felon i mean this is how the sblc keeps its its donors in check and it keeps its enemies at bay because it says we are the authority on the more on morality and if we decide that we don't like you it's all over and the thing is they are corrupt they don't have any sort of moral standing to make that judgment they're just the institutional power that's there and when they are needed most where are they nowhere right theoretically this is the time that they should be the most outspoken and instead they're going to wait until one of their biggest donors says what they what they want them to say and then they're going to follow suit well we need to lobby uh the adl and the splc to to put black lives matter as a anti-semitic hate group on all of their pages if they were really

serious about anti-semitism you think they'd do it it right away. But I don't, I'm questioning their- They do. I mean, they kind of would have to, right? It'd be pretty- I didn't even take the check. After today. Well, before today, I would. No, no, they're not working right now.

They're not updating anything. That's why there's something. They're looking for what Nick Fuentes is saying right now. They're trying to change the subject so quickly. Or again, like I said, they are waiting for their biggest donor to tell them what they're comfortable with, and then they'll abide by that messaging. I obviously have some hard feelings about these organizations, but I think they're just not trustworthy. And instead, they present themselves in ways to ruin other people's lives and to take money from people who really think

that potentially they are doing good. Because that's the hardest thing about all liberal causes to me. There are potentially people who are compassionate, who really believe these organizations are saying what they pretend they are doing. And it's just not the case. They're being swindled. Exactly. I don't know if you ever experienced this while you were doing your circuits on Fox. I mean, you were on Tucker's show pretty regularly for a while. Yeah, yeah. Lots of Fox shows, not just Tucker's. But experience what? Experience the... That you can see there are people who believe something on the left really, really dearly, but ultimately they're being misled.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And you can't, I mean, you can't be angry at all of them. You know, I've got like Democrats in my family that, you know, they sincerely believe it and you can't really, they don't have any, they're not bad people. But yeah, these are, these organizations, it's not just, I mean, it's every organization you can think of. It's like the human rights campaign and GLAAD for the gay stuff. It's, you know, that's all trans stuff.

But yeah, you're completely right. I mean, SPLC and ADL are pure evil. They're smear factories. That's all they do. Yeah, and collect money for it. A Semite is, it really just means like a desert person, like someone from Asia and East Africa. And it includes Arabs. Arabs are Semites, Acadians,ites hebrews ethiopians

yes um so like if you hate arabs you're also anti-semitic yeah but that's not that's not the idea that's not what the adl is twisted that's not no that's not what they know come on bro people people use words to convey meaning all right you can't and they also change definitions to control narrative and if we use if we all understand what the word means as of today then we can understand what they're trying to say when they say it. We've talked about this. When the left comes out and says racism, I have no problem saying they don't mean racism the same way you do. Right.

We will translate their version of class and race-based oppression with privileged groups and majority groups versus minority groups, whereas the right says prejudice based on race. So the definition of anti-Semitism that you're saying that is commonly understood argument is that it's anti-jewish or is it anti-israeli is it which one of those anti-semitism the common understanding of the anti-jewish right yeah so secular anti-hebrew no one no one's saying it to to refer to palestinians it's not about religion it's about where they're from it's really about where you're from so by all means you can take issue with the use of the word semi in this way but we know the idea being conveyed right i do i do but right you know that's so that's it i don't know why they hijacked the term to to make i don't know who i don't i don't know that anyone hijacked it that sometimes terms

become the like words happen like people use words xerox became a verb right this is a common thing kleenex yeah like nouns be a proper names become verbs because of whatever reason and for whatever reason for good or bad whatever your criticism is this is the idea of being conveyed i suppose i bring it up only because we are in an information war and it's better to arm yourself with the knowledge of past definition is that really ever been a past definition yeah in 1770 it was created to describe all those people from that area of the world yes but anti-semite was that used colloquially to describe the people of that world or is it typically just referred to jewish people

i don't know let's find out yeah well well what you do you keep talking about the news spread the narrative let us know what you find out it's you know i can i can certainly understand and respect that there are people who definitely try to manipulate words to gain power as we see with the left changing the definition of sexism and racism and all those things right but if you're going to be talking to the average person we simply try to just understand the ideas that are being conveyed and then you know push you have to go with a colloquial meaning that makes sense yeah yeah and you can criticize like i have no problem saying like you should use you know the word semite refers to many more people than just jewish people so by all means you know you can be more specific and just say they hate Jews.

Like that's actually probably more direct. Yeah. And, you know, I think anti-Semite kind of softens the general idea. Just say they hate Jews. I was listening to one, I think it was a guy from Hamas talking, and they were saying that they wanted to eradicate not the Jews, but Zionists, which is the idea of creating an Israeli, it's a political state. It's not the real, it had nothing to do with the religion itself.

And it was wicked Christians. So like people that claim to be Christian, but don't believe in God or don't follow the tenets of the faith. Like those aren't real Christians anyway. Do you guys see what Lindsey Graham said? We're in a religious war. Do whatever you have to do. Level it. Level that place or whatever.

Thanks, Lindsey Graham. But I bring this up in response to what you're saying because, you know, everything I hear is you know it was it's the palestinian people who've been removed from their homes and it's like wasn't it like someone else's before that and someone else's before that and someone else's before that what what did one of our members say bring back rome yeah this is the real that's why you guys all think about the roman empire it was ottoman for a long time and then before that it was byzantine which was like the eastern roman empire before that it was the roman empire i think israel greek for a long time before that 15 different alexander conquered from the persians i believe i'm not sure exactly yeah so yeah we're not in a holy war lindsey graham

uh we're not in any war uh firstly yeah we aren't yeah what a slip on his part yeah what yeah exactly i mean i get like okay so i i'm the first to admit and acknowledge like i'm totally an emotional child and being like nuke them you know but i realize that that's my emotions and i can't really be like tweeting and saying that this man actually you know controls warbucks and member of congress i say with nikki haley she's saying the same stuff he is right this is south carolina like just today right, I'm having a little bit of struggle talking about it because it's like if we were just hanging out at the kitchen table and just, I would be like dark, dark, dark thoughts because it's war. We're talking about the horror and history. But if we're on TV, any little idea I have right now is like could spark conflict. And so I'm like, I almost am like self-censoring for better or worse but i think

we're all feeling that i mean i think rational people are feeling that not people who go on who are senators on fox news saying we're in a holy war yeah i think it's good to be cautious when you're talking generally i mean i can understand working out ideas with friends people that you trust but in this case having people like nikki haley or lindsey graham say you know we are in a holy war or, you know, advocating for more international theory, you have to remember that they are sending your family members to war. I mean, Nikki Haley does have a husband who's deployed to Africa right now, I believe. But for the most part, they aren't talking about things that affect them. They're talking about

things that affect more working class mainstream Americans. They're willing to make them make the sacrifice. And I don't know if that's actually something we should do, right? I mean, ultimately, I know I make this point when I'm on all the time, but the American government is supposed to serve the American people. And so even if the two countries are having a religious conflict, I don't know that it's our duty to intervene on their behalf, right? Like, what is our obligation to our people first? And I don't know that it's sending young men and women to a war that we are not necessarily invited to be a part of, even though some sides may want us to intervene. Especially when you're a 70-year-old confirmed Southern bachelor like Lindsey Graham,

who doesn't have to worry about his children being affected by this. Yeah. I mean, he doesn't. It's completely right. And I think- I mean, him of all people yeah and again like it's it's it's hard to be online right now i don't know if you feel this way again but like it makes me more and more cynical right people who call for us to intervene or war no one calls for something that they don't gain from so what does lindsey

graham gain for this what does nikki haley gain from this what does joe biden gain from this because the american people lose from us getting more involved in this conflict that's true that's well i hope you guys are ready for this from american military news report hamas calls for global jihad invasion of israel and attacks on jews worldwide on october 13th american military news is news guard certified 100 out of 100 if that means anything to you. And they say a leading and founding member of Hamas, Khalid Mashal, reportedly called for a global jihad on Tuesday, asking Muslims around the world to target people of Israel on Friday, October 13th. Video of Mashal's reported call to violence was posted on YouTube and remains up on the

platform as of Wednesday at 10 a.m. According to a translation and analysis of the video by author Brother Rashid, Mashal referred to his proposed day of anger as the Friday of the Al-Aqsa flood, which will send a message of rage to the Zionists and to America. Okay. So, you know, I'm kind of worried. Well, that's the numbers. They showed their numbers this week.

How many are in this country? Yeah. Should we talk about our sweet, sweet border policy? Yeah. How many? Do we know how much how many do we know how much how many hamas individuals are in the united states no i'm not saying with the rallies with the people who oh right no we saw you know that there are plenty of people out there that

are happy to commit violence uh so i live in new york city so that's obviously a prime target if people want to do this so under our last mayor and i doubt that the current one mayor nightlife has changed this uh and i talked to cops about this actually for my last book the entire nypd anti-terrorism unit was directed to only focus on white supremacy lone wolf white supremacist terrorists under de blasio and i'm sure it's probably still the same and uh even cops i was talking to the time were like yeah it doesn't exist like they're mythical creatures there's no white supremacist terrorists in new york city this one cop I spoke to was saying, they send the NYPD terrorism unit

to go train with the FBI. And even the FBI guys were like, yeah, no, it's Islam. This was a couple of years ago. Like don't listen to what they're teaching you. But still they took all resources away from Islam. Even though since 9-11, there've been something like a dozen

either successful or thwarted terrorist attacks in New York City. So is the NYPD prepared? I mean, I haven't heard Mayor Nightlife say anything about the anti-terrorism unit and what they're doing i don't i i don't think it's it's just going to be new york i mean new york's a big target but yeah this is the concern look kevin mccarthy and ronda sanders both pointed this out you know whether you like any of them or not okay our our southern border is so extremely porous and we know that several hundred every

year and now more it's it's gone substantially uh higher are on the terror watch list i don't know if you if you want to trust this stuff or trust our intel agencies or any of this i'm just saying like our border is open okay and there are people coming through who are not from south america there are people from china coming through no no joke there are people from africa coming through and of course there are people from the middle east coming through so if joke. There are people from Africa coming through. And of course, there are people from the Middle East coming through. So if Hamas is trying to bring in sleeper cells, they've been able to do it for some time under the Biden administration. When they then say, we're going to send a message to Israel and the United States, I have concerns about what that may be. And it's the one time I hope our law enforcement can do a good job of something

instead of just framing rednecks for trying to kidnap people. I always hope they can do a good job, but they just don't always do a good job. I mean, the the border crisis is something that has been an open issue. And we know that other countries are not going to say, oh, well, America seems to be struggling to work this issue out. So we'll just let them we won't send anybody. We're not going to take advantage of it. We have no idea what's in this, what the issues we have wrought for our country are because we have left our border so porous for so long. And the Biden administration did nothing to stop this. So should hopefully, you know, everything's fine on Friday. Hopefully nothing happens. But if anything happens,

we should look directly to the Biden administration. Did you see the Air Canada pilot? Yeah. He got fired. Yeah. Yeah. What happened? He was just posting. What was he posting signs in support of palestine and yeah uh pro-palestine and like people were saying like he was so radical in his speech they were saying jewish people should feel scared to fly with him and he was put on leave and then i'll send you a link that's the thing because you can be pro-palestine and pro-israel i I want coexistence. I understand

the violence has gotten to a point where the vengeance is on people's minds, but that doesn't mean you can't support both of their rights and divine interventions to survive. There are Arab Israelis that live in Israel. So, I mean,

the issue seems to be more so religious and political. I get the vibe it's not i was talking to serge about this before the shows he made a claim that it was oh i mentioned this that it was about zionism he didn't really mention judaism and wicked christians not not christians themselves uh ones that purport to be christian and like people the zionism is the idea of creating an israeli state a political state in that area of the world has nothing to do with the religion. I mean, you could argue then that Israelis,

all Jews are from Israel. You know, Judah's father was Jacob Israel. So they're all descended from Israel. But that doesn't mean that every Israeli is Jewish because Israel had a lot of sons. So there's a lot of Orthodox Hasidic Jews. I'm not, they're actually Hasidic. They look Hasidic.

And I've seen them protesting in New York before That are really anti-Israel Like they're super against the Israeli state For religious reasons I don't believe that it's I can't get into the exact theology But Yeah

There's a lot of stances I mean you can be pro-Palestine You can be pro-Israel You can be pro-Jewish You can be anti-Jewish So there's a lot of things that go into this It's not just like as simple as like That's what Ryan Long's joke is about It's not just one side of the thing he says i've had

all the stances it's like there's not as it's not as simple as that i'm pro abraham yo and abraham spoke to god that dude was legit and he had an awesome family his kids were badasses and they spawned great tribes of people so if we can stay focused on that guy i mean we have something in common everybody wants control over the holy land yeah that's what's been over i was reading thousands of years the uh forward.com wrote about the red heifer yeah and so apparently at the beginning of september they're they're i'll give you a really quick simple version because i want to talk too much about it but the general idea is that this is a symbol of like the prop the messianic era returning or something

like that yeah and so it's just christians and and and Jews tend to be aligned in a lot of ways as to what they expect to happen what they want to happen and so that's why there's coexistence whereas Islam is more so at odds which is a large portion of the conflict I was listening to the Quran last I've been doing like 30 minutes of it at night or something like that and they were talking about Ishmael who is son of Abraham and he's descended from ishmael come the tribe of of islam but he's like hanging out with his dad and they're just talking and i started to feel like i was there with him it was wild man like you start to feel like you're part of that tribe when you listen to the stories and i i imagine it's the same with his brother

with isaac i haven't listened to a lot of what isaac did with his dad but like i understand the pride of being related to that and to know and to be able to track back your dynasty to the people because those dudes were like for whatever reason i don't know if it was like the strain of the environment that for that made them listen to god like under great tension you have no other choice you start to hear it or like if you if you're starving you know then there's better chance you're going to hear it because you're not clouded what should regular people do right don't panic but are people paying attention to this stuff i'm worried about what what could or may happen i think israel is going to be on high alert obviously and this could this could be this this statement this guy put out is escalation and that's just bad. Outright.

But if there's already ongoing attacks, there's already rocket attacks, if something happens in the United States, man. I don't want to see the U.S. get involved in another conflict, but it looks like that's where we're going. With special operations being offered up to Israel. And you've already got a bunch of politicians calling for direct support, more funding, more aid. And war with Iran right yep yeah this is making me think of putin he made a statement and it's there's a video of a jackson hinkle tweeted it out and he's basically saying if men

decide to fight let them fight leave the women and children alone he's like he's in a bad place right now and i'm not even even putin standing with israeli you can't do this we wanted some land let's like go easy not that he he didn't make life good for the ukrainians the last few years but you could say that maybe other people were involved i think it's morale crushing i think no matter no matter who you are as a leader like let's let's let's say there's the red faction and the blue faction and they're at war everyone as human beings have similar desires and understandings and despises seeing women and children killed this is not every person the but of civilized countries like obviously we're at odds with russia and china but you will demoralize your fighters

if you're actively saying go out there and kill kids they're going to be like man i don't want to fight anymore yeah like it's just you're not fighting for go out there and kill kids, they're going to be like, man, I don't want to fight anymore. Like, it's just, you're not fighting for anything you can recognize. Yeah, they got to trick themselves into thinking that the enemy is like a rat, is like not a human.

But even then, targeting children is going to be extremely difficult. It's kind of like a rat's nest. Like, you don't spare the baby rats. You just take it out right but my point is in a civilized country in like a modern developed nation i should say not don't necessarily mean civilized i don't know but uh in like russia for instance if if if he goes to if putin goes to his troops and says yes what happened in israel haha we're we're for it he's

going to demoralize his men i don't think russia's the bad guy they've been made out to it's like the reason why we have these like war crimes and these laws is because we're kind of like dude we might fight but you know leave the kids out of it and then we're we we have that hope that the other the other faction may respect not killing the children but then you know one of the things we've learned consistently in the middle east is uh kids are not spared i was talking to uh some dudes a while ago in the army who had been deployed and they said the scary thing is imagine you're you're you're in a convoy you're in a truck and you're delivering supplies and then all of a sudden a little kid walks out into the middle of the road

what do you do kind of shoot him in the military and the kid has strapped a bomb to his chest actually and the kid could have a bomb you don't know what do you do i'm like you don't know you don't know i don't know don't have the answers it's like that's the difficult thing you're dealing with when you're when you're over there is they will use children yep they did in vietnam too i mean it's probably an act of desperation you know when the vietnam the vietnamese they were living underground because the carpet bombs were so intense so they would send kids walking into camp and with a basket i don't think it's desperation so much as determination to win at all costs. I think they are willing to sacrifice for that.

I mean, that is something that they, if you believe your cause is the most important thing you could ever achieve in your life, then what is the bar? Where is the line? Why wouldn't you send children to it? Because then they are ultimately

serving this great cause. I just got a little, Cassandra just hit me up that the biden white house has walked back the baby comment really uh this is tweeted out from yeah we're gonna have to look at evan hill at evan hill clarification from the white house regarding biden's remarks i've been doing this a long time biden said of the white house i never thought i'd see baby i never thought i would see oh man i see this is why i say you got to be skeptical don't trust joe biden washington post has the story what yeah that's amazing let me uh where where what is this it just jumped let's uh let's say uh

uh no where's where's like he's got a screenshot here clarification the white is recording by his remarks uh a white house spokesperson later clarified that u.s officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed reports independently the president bases comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims from netanyahu's spokesman and media reports from israel according to the white house but he said he saw them and that he confirmed that they were real yes saw confirmed and then when you click the link to the article here's what he said i never really thought that i would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children i never thought hey we all knew joe biden was a scumbag, he didn't say he did. He just said, I never thought I would. I never thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists.

Maybe he's more clever than we thought. Yeah. He read the script. Weasel words. Assumptive language where, you're right, he didn't say he saw it. He said he never thought he would. He didn't, so he's good. But the implication is, of course, that you did see it.

He's saying, I never thought I would. Especially with this big emotional pause. He's so overcome by his emotion, he can't so he's good but the implication is of course that you did see it yeah saying i never thought i would especially with this big emotional pause like he's yeah he's so overcome by his emotion can't finish his sentence yeah when i go to the washington post link i just get in a dead link it's not taking me to the story did they delete the story no i think they're updating it is updating but i'm not seeing what he what he what this guy screen grab is not appearing on washington post washington post has now removed it because the White House has to walk back their walk back. Jeez, what's real, man? This could be a fake debunking. Right.

But he never said that he saw it. That clip does not appear in the article. So this screenshot from Evan Hill, who is a Washington Post visual and forensic investigations at WAPO. Whatever this link is, is not what he posted. So I don't know where, where this is coming from. So I don't know.

No idea. Yeah. Well, let's stay at stand on Biden's words. He never thought he would see it. And that's all he said. So as far as I know, he never saw it.

He never claimed to have seen it. He never thought he would confirm that. I have no information. He never said that he did confirm it. It claimed to have seen it he never thought he would confirm that i have no information he never said that he did confirm it it's not not good though that the leader of our country is being so ambiguous in his speech in a way that could potentially be seen as inflammatory and calling for more intervention on the u.s like it's not okay that it's not clear this is a time when we need clarity he is supposed to offer this to the american people and he's not yeah he just wants to be on the rights of the history, you know? Like

Ryan Long. He doesn't really know what statement he's supposed to put up yet. He's waiting to hear. All I can say is right now, this tweet from Evan Hilt of Washington Post, I'm not seeing corroborated anywhere else. In fact, all of the most recent stories from the past few minutes just show Biden's quotes of him saying, implying that he had

seen it. So that Washington Post link is dead dead so i don't know what he's posting so i i assume it is this is what i'm saying i'm skeptical i'm not about to start trusting joe biden right there you go wow did they run it as if he said that he saw they ran the article that we read earlier oh dude look at this nbc uh was, what was it? NBC News, Biden says he saw photos. He said that he didn't think he ever would. That's all he said. I never really thought that I would see

and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. All right, look, if you want to get to Joe Biden. You would never say unless you didn't want people to think that you did see it. I think to verify what he said, you'd need the two minutes leading up to the statement.

I never thought I would see a video of Joe Biden mercilessly beating a child. I never thought I would confirm it either. Yeah, I never thought I would see the confirm it. You can't sue me, Joe. I never said I saw a video of it. You said you never thought you'd see one. Exactly.

Yeah. Oh, geez. Oh my God. Wow, this is the beginning man this is like this is the future of warfare is your mind future man if they can get you to turn on your out to turn on your neighbors like that's how that's the best way to win is to get your enemy to turn on the curve info wars yeah yeah definitely yeah that's weird these are wild times man totally crazy these are wild times my totally crazy these are wild times

my friends do you want to know how wild these times are it's this wild Cenk Uygur has formally announced he is running for president good

oh wonderful and so we went over this before Phil Labonte tweeted at him said I thought you were born in Turkey apparently his parents were US citizens

wow no way so he was born in Turkey that's what people are saying he was born in Turkey he can Ted Cruz his way into this his parents were turkish but were also american citizens that means that he was born of american citizen parents and that would like write ted cruz he says yes i'm running against joe biden for the democratic nomination joe biden is down 24 points on the economy he has no ability to make

up that kind of ground on the most important issue we need a new candidate now oh cheers website party no i just gotta say exactly the run of the dsa what what is this bro hold on no no no i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm like kind of upset about this this website is poorly done it is no for real like come on man this makes me think he's absolutely not serious at all about this and it's like here's a chance to get a big platform and and and right this this does not look like a legitimate web i don't know maybe i'm just being a dick i mean it looks like it's from like 1998 so it looks like he whipped it together like three days ago like he just started thinking thinking but he talked about this was several weeks ago oh yeah he did he has like a month or two ago i'm sure you've been thinking about it for years i'm sure the most important election of our lifetimes we need a new candidate he says biden is 13 points lower than when he barely beat trump in the electoral college 44 000 votes

biden is 24 behind points behind trump on the economy the most important issue biden is currently trailing trump when he has to win the popular vote by five points to win the electoral college wow he says time off for mothers paid paid family leave, higher wages, $50 minimum wage, affordable health insurance, public option, fight corruption, end gerrymandering. The end gerrymandering thing is, like, extremely naive. I think that's just like, yeah, because, like, we've talked about it quite a bit. These people will be like, have you ever looked at a congressional map and you notice there's, like, a block here and there's,'s like a little thin line and then a block there yet the reason for that sometimes or i say the general reason for it is you don't need a congressional district on dead farmland like that's one guy who lives there you don't need a congressional district on like a big plot of government property either the congressional

districts are where people are and so that means congressional districts are going to be shaped very oddly. That being said, fair point, it is typical among political parties to try and figure out how to win as many congressional seats through gerrymandering. So that I understand. But a lot of the arguments they make for it, we don't want to end gerrymandering. We don't want to end this.

We want maps to be drawn out, but we probably want a more fair method, a more appropriate method. But I think the actual reality is there is no legitimate way to do it any differently. Right. That's just it. There's no way to be like it should just guarantee for Democrats or Republicans. But anyway, outside of that, you could pick like a random. You could do a random subsect of people within an area and be like, if you get if you draw one, then you're going to be part of this caucus this time.

If you're draw two, then you're part of this caucus. So your vote goes towards the, the, the related caucus. So it doesn't matter where you live. Your vote doesn't go to your locality. It goes to a random,

because we're kind of decentralizing where it's not about like, it's all, it's not local anymore. It's, you know, a guy like a polling place, right? Like that would

be very difficult for polling places to to pull off i think because i just feel like that's such a precarious uh can we bureaucratic system already yeah can we add to the uh polling aggregates now that he's an officially declared for sure he's a far superior candidate would you like to see a jank biden debate because i feel like that could be really entertaining jank would run circles around joe biden i really entertaining. Cenk would run circles around Joe Biden. I think a lot of people would run circles around Joe Biden. To be fair.

That's not really... I want to see an Ian Crossland Joe Biden debate. Joe Biden would be confused the whole time and just like, what? I'd love to.

I'd listen to him till his brain starts to work again and he starts to be like... What do you mean? He's going to sundown. He'd be like 20 years younger. That's my goal with Joe Biden. Get him to snap out of it and remember who no no i want to see a joe biden vevek debate so bad because you imagine the cop the racist things that joe biden

oh it'd be so funny like he's easy to humiliate but i'm concerned that he's our commander so i want him to be strong until he's no longer the commander then i don't care what he does homie is 80 years old dude he's not going to snap out of it. He's going to degrade. It's called neurogenesis. It's certainly possible. Here's what you do. You pump him full of NAD and stem cells. And psilocybin.

I don't know about pump full of, but yeah. What about Cenk joining the Gavin Newsom DeSantis debate on November 30th? I'm for it. I'm totally for it. I want Cenk on the debate stage. I think Cenk would do better in the debates

than Newsom and DeSantis. No question. I mean, Cenk Uygur is a media personality. He said a bunch... Right, he talks for a living. I think it would be absolutely fantastic. I'm willing to bet he would say a lot of things you'd actually agree with, too. I think Cenk Uygur would be a better candidate than anything the Democrats have to offer right now

but I don't want Cenk to win but that's why I've said before it's like I'd probably rather have him than any of the other Democrats at the very least I think he could be pressured into a pardoning Assange it's going to be bad I think his policies are bad

but I'm more inclined to believe we would get less war with Cenk than with any other Democrat. Newsom is going to be like, you know, just like BT or Hillary Clinton. There's more neoliberal establishment garbage. Yeah. This is great news that he's running. I'm glad that he's running. I want more anti-establishment.

I want more, you know, different political backgrounds to be challenging the machine. We could get him in here. Chunk Yogurt 24. Should we bring him in here with somebody to debate? We have invited this guy to come on the show like 87 times. All right. 88's what it's all about. Magic number 88.

Now he's on the campaign trail, so he really wants to be here. We've hosted multiple presidential candidates. I'm just going to say it. I would love to have him on the Culture War show with Phil or maybe someone else. To have a calm conversation about these issues. I mean, yeah, maybe if it was

you, me, Phil, and him. Specifically, just Culture War discussing policy and stuff. Whereas, you know, like IRLs, we have a bunch of news articles that we go through. This is the big news. Cenk just announced he's running. That's why we're talking about it. Culture war is a Friday mornings and it's usually much more just like we're going to talk for two hours about whatever we feel like talking about, wherever the conversation goes.

I'm down. Let's, let's, you know, I'll send a message and say we can book him. Cool. Nice. I, I, I, I'm glad that he's running. I think he's better than all the Democrats. I do. And I, and I, I, like if I had a choice between him or Trump, I'm voting for Trump.

No question. But, I mean, to be completely honest, if I had a choice between, like, this is tough, Joe Biden or Mitt Romney, I'm out. I gotta go with Romney. Peace. I don't know what Romney's up to, but Biden's so low right now. I'm just out, right? Well, Romney's retiring. He said, I need to leave because I'm too old, which is-

But how about this? That's admirable. Joe Biden or Nikki Haley? Nikki Haley. Oh, that's- I can't take the old man. He's not there. Nikki Haley, I know.

No, no way. No, not Abnan. Nikki Haley is like- I don't want to go to war with Iran. I'm sorry. Just vote for RFK at that point, you know? Right, right. We have the nice independent.

He's there for a reason, guys. But I don't even like RFK. The reason I bring this up is where is jank on the top 10 list of who you would consider voting for i would say this three he's up there for me yeah he's certainly not on the i never would because he has an uh a light anti-establishment bent but he is still fairly establishment but i i can respect that he argued with hassan about uh letting criminals out of prisons and i think i would look if if if i'm looking at nikki haley and joe biden and the only other candidate was like i'll pardon julian assange i'd vote for i'd vote for jake like that

that issue matters a lot to me i think that was an outright egregious evil committed by the united states i think donald trump wanted to to bring Julian Assange back to the U.S. because Julian had information that would benefit Donald Trump and strike at the heart of the deep state. I can respect Trump wanting that information, but ordering the extradition of Julian Assange is just using a man's life for political purposes. But, you know, that's about all I can say. I think that's how it would break down for a lot of people. They would then look at what are my top two issues and who is most closely aligned on those even if everywhere else I don't agree with them.

I mean, if you have two candidates you really don't like, you pick the one that has at least a chance of giving something you want. Well, maybe he'll run as an independent and then really spike the Democratic Party. Oh my gosh, it'd be so funny. We have multiple independents in the race. But y'all need to understand this.

I support Cenk Uygur's efforts here 1 million percent for another reason as well. He doesn't need to run as an independent despite Democrats. By running, he is pulling donations away from other Democratic candidates. That's it. And donations matter. Contributions matter. Spend matters. And so if Joe Biden was running as the incumbent unopposed

which he should have been in any normal cycle but because the dude's brain don't work he's got competition all those donations are in his pocket it's one of the reasons incumbents tend to win that all the money flows to them they don't have to beat off a primary for a lack of better term and uh right now what jenka is doing is basically saying donate to me and progressives will they will and then not every single one but a lot of them and that's money that joe biden could use that he won't be having it sort of feels like me and chank uger and matt gates were really good friends that used to hang out at taco bell and talk politics like that's how i see those guys like tempers flare but i don't care it was more about the ideas i love it

i love that they're so intense and in their own lane and they're doing their own and they're willing to run for president like this was the most compelling thing that rfk jr said during his announcement that he's going to be an independent which is that it should be about serving the people and it should not be about i'm going to he said there there has to be a moment where you realize you're not going to get your way on everything. And it's not that I think he is the perfect candidate, but I think this idea that we have to give up the addiction to fighting for the one side we've stuck ourselves on is worth hearing, right? I mean, and we are seeing it bear itself out right now as the news plays out.

I cut you off. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. That's good. Were you always conservative? where did you develop politically oh i was i was one of those 2016 babies that was like always voted left and and um and what changed uh i was sent to i started doing a bunch of stories that year that were very because i wasn't really i mean i was writing for like the new york times i was writing for all these liberal places but i wasn't super political and um that summer pulse happened i was reporting on that that affected me a lot islamic terrorist attack then i profiled milo yiannopoulos for a magazine which is first time met him and then you know you're saying all these things i was like i've never heard anyone say that before that's exactly what i think but it was just sort of i mean it's a basic thing i'm just

looking like for the, you know, suddenly looking into everything that I thought, you know, I was one of those like, I, of course I believe in equality. I'm a Democrat, you know, I work in the arts. But then I started looking into everything.

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, they're lying about this. And if they're lying about that, why are they lying? Why do they have to lie if they're so right? And then I never really, I think a lot of,

and I think a lot of young people are like this too on the left is they don't really think of the end game of what they're advocating for i'd never just really given it much thought it was just the platitudes and in your social circle it sounds oh yeah absolutely and then of course when i came out as you know not left i don't really say conservative anymore i think i said conservative like a minute but i don't really know what that means so yeah so yeah you know what i mean like um oh yeah i was like fired from all my jobs and all that stuff. But yeah, that was mine.

I want to pull up this tweet. Ben Shapiro is getting into it with Tucker Carlson. Shapiro responds to Carlson's moral equivalency struggle session here and I'll play a little bit from Ben for you guys. Tucker, by the way, then continued along these lines. He did an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy and he likened what just happened in Israel,

the kidnapping of women and their rape. I mean, he's showing video of this happening, like as he's talking about this. He compared that to drug overdose deaths in the United States.

Now, I believe we should fully care about the 100,000 drug overdose deaths that happened in the United States. These are two completely different issues. To go this far afield to link the issues, the only reason you're doing this is because you wish to downplay

the atrocity that just happened in Israel. You're not upplaying the atrocity of what's happening on America's streets. Those are two different types of atrocities. People who are addicted to fentanyl, sticking needles in their arms, and overdosing is a moral blight. It is a moral atrocity and a moral evil for people to kidnap women,

rape them, and drag them back to the Gaza border. Those are not the same thing. So, oh man, this is interesting. Saying that Tucker is trying to downplay the atrocities of what happened.

That's a bold statement from Tucker. Let me play a little bit here from Ben. Sorry. Let me play a little bit from Tucker here. I got to say, you mentioned moral outrage, and I thought the videos from southern Israel were morally outrageous. And I was offended by them and saddened by them.

Anyone who saw them, I think, was. But you don't have to look far in the United States for moral outrage is also on video. And there's not a city in this country, not just the big cities, but cities of 10,000 people. I was in one yesterday. It doesn't have some constellation of drug-addicted young people living outside. We call them the homeless. They're drug addicts. And they're addicted to drugs that were imported across an open border, allowed by the Biden administration. And they're dying more than 100,000 a year. Now, you could call it genocide. You can call it whatever you want. But it's the death of over 100,000 Americans a year and the living death of millions more who are living outside.

So this is interesting because Tucker is talking about 100,000 young people dying from these failed policies. Ben's making it seem like he's just comparing drug overdoses in general to what we just saw happen in Israel. I'm curious, do you guys think whose team are you on? Team Tucker or Team Shapiro? Well, obviously. Here's Ben Shapiro putting a muzzle in someone's back because he's not crying hard enough about Ben's number one issue, I assume. It's like, Tucker's being very consistent. He's extremely nationalistic, populist, and he's making a point of, yes, we're all horrified by his images but you know i'm focused on my country i mean it's very true to who he is i mean he's not saying this is

outrageous or anything why ben's upset that tucker's not angry enough i think we're all pretty angry about it i mean that's why he had 30 minutes of his show dedicated to it with vivek and he wants to say let's not forget what's happening our own country where's the outrage here i wish we were all as outraged about what's happening in our country as we are about what's happening in Israel right now. Seems to be what he was getting at. But that's not good enough for Ben Shapiro, apparently. Or Ukraine.

When we were all putting up the flags in Ukraine, I wish that we cared as much about what was happening to the people in Appalachia when they were being given opioids in mass and then being made fun of in private emails. I mean, I am not saying that these things are even even comparable i think both parties are maybe making a weird comparison but there is definitely tragedy in america and it is good to acknowledge that we don't get we don't whip ourselves into a frenzy that we have a hundred thousand dead over this stuff a year yeah i mean that's that's it's it you know like i said bet is saying one a person oh ding on on heroin is is a moral blight

but it's an atrocity to kidnap rape women and drag them to the gaza border okay well tucker's had a hundred thousand dead so you know we can we can talk about like i absolutely agree in in in the sense of what ben is saying that yes beating raping women and kidnapping them and dragging the guys a border is a moral atrocity well beyond someone overdosing but Tucker's saying a hundred thousand people overdosing I think it's the gets the point of something very serious here yeah poisoning an entire society poisoning entire society right yeah a different kind of attack but here's the other thing I'll add to this too it's like there's a video uh I don't know I don't know if there's a video there's a story out of Philly where a woman was raped on a train in front of a bunch of people. I think they filmed it.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, so women are being beaten, raped, and kidnapped all the time in the United States because of the crime and because of the policies of these soft-on-crime Democrats. These policies are resulting in criminals being released. And then we just had that woman in Baltimore who was presumably raped and murdered on her roof, this tech CEO. Now you've got the guy in New York, Ryan Carson, I think his name was, who was stabbed and killed.

So, you know, look, I can understand organized actions by Hamas into civilian areas is an atrocity. But I think Tucker's making a relevant point. He maybe could have articulated a little bit better if he wanted to, but he mentioned 100,000 deaths. that's what you would call derailing uh what tucker did he derailed the conversation into another uh direction that he wanted that's

called something that's on the segue he took them into a tangent yes a tangential segue so we lost his show but does ben not watch tucker carlson it would become so out of character if tucker carlson came on and started like we need to go to war and this is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of mankind this is if it were about another country you know this is this is the other thing this this is tucker carlson doing a segue i support in a conversation you'll say yes i do understand that you like the color blue something else that's blue is the sky have you noticed it in the sky i i particularly we do it all the time on this show. I do it particularly. I do free association where if you're talking about a color, I might mention

something else that's the same color, and you're like, that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about this thing. No, that's derailing. Segues are different. You're derailing me right now. Anyway, we're joking. Segues are when we will talk for 15 or 20 minutes, and then we'll be talking about fake news, and I'll say, speaking of fake news, we have this article we segue on by saying.

Yeah, it's as if they caught the end of his segment on on the attack. And then they the beginning of a segment on the drug overdose. And he's trying to shift the conversation from Israel into American issues by saying, you know, these things are really, really bad. We have some things that we're really concerned about here in the United States to normal segue because he has a presidential candidate on. Right. And he spent the last 20 minutes talking. I look, man, I like Ben and i respect his anger frustration um he's probably really scared he probably has a lot of fear over there i mean absolutely his family and friends it's terrifying he was there

i don't remember i could have misread a tweet online oh i don't know but i'm saying i put up this thing being like ben is safe he's just observing the the holiday so he's okay well good i'm like i could be totally off on this nobody i i completely respect ben's emo like emotional state he's he's highly he's he's highly agitated i don't mean that to be mean i mean he's clearly this is affecting his family probably his friends definitely uh there there are there i'm sure that you know he may know people who are who are victimized injured maybe even killed but i just want to say on top of all that cooler heads prevail and now's the time to be like criticizing tucker carlson for

doing a segue and maybe you know if ben had approached it more calmly being like tucker you could do a better job please let's i think it would have hit it would have landed better but again i can understand why ben's upset i'm not trying to be a dick yeah apparently he left just before it happened just so you know yeah just before and and he wasn't on the internet either because they were observing sabbath so do you think it would be a good time to bring like israeli scholars and uh or i guess to say jewish scholars and muslim scholars together for a conference they do that all the time is it good to do right now or is it i mean we didn't we had max talking about it and it's just like it's it's it's never enough yeah it's it's just maybe if we do it we

could publicize it to another it's like a new crowd cultural episode we get an imam and a rabbi and a priest we could that would be epic it'd be super interesting the thing is though like those are good and it's good when people who are um expert in their field they're studying their religion whatever it's good for them to talk about things, but you have to remember the people on the ground are making decisions to participate in either side of this or not. And so someone having sort of like an elite group of scholars having a conversation doesn't mean that it's going to affect the hearts and minds of the people that are actually living in the realities of both of these countries right now. I'm most concerned about the kids that are nine, they going to be 22 in 11 12 13 years and remember this like the kids in 2009 whose sisters were blown up

they're all in their mid early 20s and they're ready to fight i'm talking about like the the palestinians that were there during the israeli attack in 2009 or whatever you want to call it so it for in those situations maybe if we're if we have conversations early now and these 11, 12-year-olds that have lost their family members have something to listen to, then maybe that'll help them think properly over the next couple of decades. Well, that's like the best I can do is just talking on a microphone other than going to Gaza, which I want to do too. Yeah, I think that it's not wrong to want to have conversation. I just mean that the it's easy for us to who who don't live in the middle of these countries to say, in America and I'm Christian. So some of the things that go on are things that would be very difficult for me to understand. I don't know that we are in a position to offer a solution because, you know, like all conflict and war in history, it's so deeply complicated and it's not just like one thing happened and suddenly they're fighting.

This is a very layered, complicated, contentious relationship that has hit a very serious breaking point and resulted in very serious violence. It's like it's been a thousand years. It's not like it's just going to go away tomorrow. That's one thing that you can say for sure. It's not going to just end because some people will discuss some things

and someone viewed them as being there. Because even within Islam, they have different opinions as to who leads the spiritual successor of Muhammad on earth.'s it's not going to be that easy i just i know what you're saying and i get it it's noble but outside of a cultural episode i don't know i want to do a new show maybe every tuesday uh the religion one to two to three hours where we fly in religious experts it could be anybody but if you guys support that in the audience give me a five in the chat because I've been thinking

about it a lot and I don't think wasting time makes any sense anymore. But I mean, the entire region only functions with strongmen in power. Looks like it happened when they took out Gaddafi. I mean, there are such things as cultures that really only understand force and power. I mean, Russia's a culture that only understands force and

power. They want a strongman. I think that's really hard for us to understand. And you say like, yeah, it's hard for us to understand. It's like, well, let's just talk about it. We have local cops. We've got this local protective bubble that we all live in. So it doesn't really matter if your president's an idiot sometimes. Right.

Yeah, exactly. But it's not true. It does matter on the geopolitical stage. It just doesn't really matter as much domestically. Whereas in Russia, if you're president, or in Chile, I don if the russians have local cops or is it federalis all across the federation i don't remember exactly i remember that i'm pretty sure it's federation cops yeah i think so yeah so the president's federation i want to ask you a question about tucker really quickly were you uh did you see a shift in his style because you observed him

pretty closely from when he left fox and now that he's doing something. Well, you know, he's still an employee of Fox News. So he's under constraints about what he's able to do. But just the style of his interviews. Style of his interviews? I think that his, I think he's, I mean, it's a different show now because it's long form. I guess it's more similar to that Tucker Carlson Today show. I think that he's probably, i think probably the lack of structure is probably affecting him a little bit i think positively or negatively uh i think he's just probably

getting used to it because he's worked at like a jobby job for yeah 100 years in cable news you know i think that the kind of freedom and lack of structure is maybe is this something you kind of go into in his book tucker's time in media yeah i mean most of the book is um i mean it's you know his birth well not even his childhood his father's childhood I mean, most of the book is, I mean, it's, you know, his birth, well, not even his childhood, his father's childhood, well before that, up until the book ends

two weeks after he was taken off the air and he's sort of still dazed by it and going through it. How'd you meet him? I was a regular on his show. I was first, actually when I came out conservative, which was in a piece in the New York Post.

You came out conservative. Yeah, when I came out conservative. That was a headline. I'm a gay New Yorker and I'm coming out conservative. That coming out might have been harder. I don't actually know. Oh, it was. It was much harder, way harder than coming out 15 in the middle of the country.

Hey, I hear you, man. But that was February 2017. And he had me on the show because of that article, which went viral. I had no idea it would. Had you been writing biographies before that? I'd written magazine profiles, tons of those uh but not this is my first biography how long did it take to write it this book was um a little over a year were you like in constant contact with tucker as you were writing it yeah i was yeah he was i tried

not to bother i bothered him as little as possible to try to respect his time but i spent tons of time with him at his home and stayed his home by his insistence and so would you go interview him take a bunch of notes then leave go write as much as you could and then come back and hit him up again kind of thing uh i tried to get it done in like chunks so i would come hang out for a few days at a time have my recorder going the whole time and just kind of be there and then get home transcribe it all go through it because i'd already done you know there's a lot more you know when you're writing about someone's career and all that there's so much more you're already working on to there's a lot of history there's a lot of words tons of that you know yeah did you find that it changed you uh learning about someone else and writing someone else's

biography it did yeah uh i think with him particularly and and his wife suzy it it made me not to sound corny but uh it made me chill out a bit it made me kind of remember what was important in life what do you know just because he's such a he has a very um he's he is not an egomaniac he's not a jerk he's a really sort of warm and interesting person he has a a very balanced life. He makes sure he can see the stars every night, you know, things like that. And I've been talking a lot about that. He's very into nature. And he has a really lovely wife and lovely family.

And so it was sort of one of those like, yeah, I need to remember what's important. It's not what's happening in the news. He's somebody who very much knows that what's happening in the news is not the most important thing in the world. And that's ironic him being at the time as he was number one on fox you know when i

was doing most of this research yeah i find myself wondering about that with america i mean all of western the world but definitely america's workaholic culture yeah you see people especially women delay having children or getting married because they think oh my career needs to come first i need to get to a certain level and we know ultimately you know you could always be more successful you can always be working for something more whereas uh i've quoted this couple times one of the it was the guardian i think published this story interviewing men who hadn't had children and they just kept saying oh i thought it would happen so you have these two forces saying yeah i had my i didn't put my eye on this thing that ultimately makes life

sort of have a meaning that you can't just get from dollars and cents or promotions at work yeah that that was something i discovered is that he's so he's so much more interested in in the bigger questions of morality family faith beauty than he is in politics per se yeah you know which are far more interesting conversations and they're the reasons we're supposed to have politics in the first place to uphold our morality and i think a part of his success was he's the only person that could speak on those things in mainstream media. Number one, because he actually believed them

and he wrote all those monologues himself. But, you know, he could do a segment about architecture. Like Sean Handy can't do a segment about architecture. He doesn't care about architecture.

You know? And also, as you brought up starting families, how young women get screwed by feminism and all these other lies that they've been told.

And young men as well, which people don't talk about a lot. Which he certainly does. Yeah. I mean, he's got sons, right right how can you not be conscious of these things if you're watching you went through them yourself and you're raising another generation of people who are combating these narratives that direct them to be ultimately unhappy and servants to a corporate machine that chews them up and spits them out absolutely yeah i mean and yeah his

anti-corporatist stance in the most corporative settings on Fox News was always quite amazing. But it's also so it's I mean, so indicative of just these blurred lines of what is left and right anymore. I mean, the fact that the left hates him so much. And yet he and I think one of the main reasons is that he just so effectively holds a mirror up to what they once were and what they still sort of purport to be able to be like free speech, anti-war, anti-corporatist. And now they are all of those the opposite of all those things yeah and and it's the tucker sort of tucker carlson trumpy populist right i guess that is very suspicious of those things and calls them out now yeah and that drives the left insane obviously because they need to be like their avant-garde fighting the man yeah of course they are the man but they

are the man they haven't for a while i always thought it was hard to argue that we're counter-cultural when they are the they are the culture right i mean i i still don't see it no they have no idea they do see it they can't admit it's it's too painful right or they would just shatter right right i always might i always think of how the word bootlicker just disappeared as soon as they came into power bootlicker there was a term disappeared i saw all my friends stop saying it because it doesn't fit the narrative for them you can't say that anymore but as soon as i guarantee if if trump or another uh let's say like republican and takes office or independent if rfk takes office that word will come back mark my words so we it was in the article i just said there was a drop down it was blocked but uh washington post

does say a white house spokesperson clarified u.s officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed reports independently independently the president based his comments about the alleged atrocities and the claims of netanyahu spokesman and media reports from israel so uh who do you trust the washington post or uh the president well the president never said he saw them so the washington post is just clarifying that he's saying someone else told him people who are once again trying to backtrack something the president said no no no no we didn't hear anything from the spokespeople we saw this a statement from the washington post the washington post the washington post is claiming yes okay that someone said this yes someone told them exclusively that this is but they can't name anyone and it says a

white house spokesperson later clarified that u.s officials in the president not seen clarified to whom when how and whose side is the post on are they in the in the in the like the long video game i think they're if joe biden says i never thought i would see it you're right he didn't say he saw it if the washington post says a spokesperson clarified they don't say where who to them to someone else yeah the washington post could be referencing a tweet they saw from a white house spokesperson who claims to have sent a message to someone about something similar you don't we have no idea it sounds like is someone in the israeli intelligence or somebody contacted the biden administration and told them that they had pictures and they were confirmed and then biden as a bootleg let's say biden the lapdog has just repeated it he didn't even say

like i was told now's spokesman said it. Out loud? Yes. So then Biden just, oh, okay. Netanyahu's spokesman and media reports are miserable. So Biden's echoing. Right. He's just, oh my God.

Welcome to the fog of war. It's crazy. And Biden is contributing to it because either way, this is him not being clear in a statement. And we can go with he's got an agenda. We can go with he has Alzheimer's. It's not a strong look for a president.

And it's definitely going to hurt him in the polls. Tim mentioned this earlier, but didn't elaborate. But it was the Saudi, the Iraqi thing in the 90s. I mean, that's what made us sort of think of this. And what was the whole story? The Nayyirah testimony? Yeah. Yeah.

Was it Nayyirah? Nayyirah. Yeah. Yeah. Claiming that Saddam's forces had Poland babies out of incubators and left him? Yeah. Yeah. Was it Naira? Naira. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Claim that Saddam's forces had Poland babies out of incubators and left him to die. Right. And it turned out to be fake.

And it was used to justify the first Gulf War. Yeah. And it was totally fake. I support Israel, Judaism, all of this, but sending them in to commit genocide against the Palestinians will make them the world's most hated country on earth. Not by me, but people need to understand. I know it's like the breaking point has come.

It feels like that, but I want to preserve the people, the people. I mean, yeah, it's a challenging position. We don't really know how to say. And I think again,

I really credit Ryan Long for his, his well-timed video here, right? I think people want to ultimately live with morality and have compassion and want there to be a right answer. On the other hand, it is very easy for Americans to say like, oh, well, I read three articles from the Washington Post, so I know what's right. And ultimately, we know that even our political leaders are misleading or being misled. There is no clarity on this issue. You can't rush to take statement. You should condemn violence. You should pray for people who are suffering. But you can't ultimately say, I know exactly how to fix this because we don't. And what's wrong with saying I'm emotional right now and I don't have to have an answer? I've got a solution, potentially.

What do you guys think about making offering Palestine to become the 51st 51st u.s state no i don't why why would we do that because i got an idea and equally as plausible as ian's idea a pizza party for everyone in gaza and and in israel to come together and celebrate and then we'll have the wrong stones play so i'll tell you why because it would give us a trade post in the middle East, a permanent place to go, give us a vacation spot like Hawaii. It would give us trade routes. They're not our vacation. Bro, look.

Not right now, but in 30 or 40 years. What you're saying is a joke. Okay. I think- I'd rather buy the Baja Peninsula than bail out Mexico. I'd rather joke around and offer legitimate, funny, weird solutions than just watch people die. Like, what's the other?

I haven't heard one solution other than that. All all right here's an equally as plausible solution to yours we'll we'll have a whole bunch of clowns i know you're gonna shit on it that's why i asked them man i know you don't like it you already told me that it's it's psychotic well so is this war dude we can't even get puerto rico to be a 51st state what you're saying is a non-centric takeover in greenland yeah whatever happened to that we've barely developed alaska this is more of like saving their lives kind of thing maybe not a state maybe colonial i don't want to i don't want to we already said we were backing israel in this we already said they're our allies but i love i love i love how ian's interventionism is so extreme he wants to annex and colonize palestine

if you can what I want to do is improve colonization. I want to improve living conditions in Palestine. If you support Israel, you improve living conditions in Palestine, they'll stop attacking. No, they won't. There's a likelihood that the attacks will decrease if they're not starving to death.

Potentially. But no one can say. You don't know. I don't think, judging on these actions, I don't think from the river to the sea has anything to do with food no it does not what do you mean from the river to the sea exactly if you don't know what that means maybe you should put it in context for people okay so most people who are listening and hearing you talk about making palestine the 51st state which you're probably referring to the gaza strip well we'd have to partition it with israel but yeah right okay which makes the problem but when they don't like it when they chant from from when they when they're The Gaza Strip. Well, we'd have to partition it with Israel, but yeah. Right. Okay. Which makes sense.

That's already the problem. I don't like it. But when they chant from, when they're chanting from the river to the sea, they are saying they will seize all of the land that is now Israel. They are not saying we're hungry. Help. They're saying from the river to the sea. I understand the militant war goal of Hamas, but that's not the people I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the civilians. How would you remove Hamas from this? We're going to annex a country that Hamas is in. 44% support. And then we're going to have an occupied vacation home in the Middle East that we are now The U.S. military would occupy. Kind of like Taiwan. Then we would have turned

on Israel and have a hostile relationship like don't understand what this would do for anyone. No, no, Ian's saying the U.S. military should occupy Palestine and force them to our laws. I'm not saying to colonize or to conquer. How else would that look? I want to offer them the opportunity to petition to become a state if they want. Why? Because otherwise they're going to get

annihilated and completely decimated and they're gone. So why is it, why would you say that the Americans should intervene on this? I just told you because we could set up economic trade routes with Israel and Egypt and then 2.2 million palestinians can move anywhere they want in the continental united states and god knows how many terrorists are in that 44 support for hamas yeah hamas would probably be their governor they probably elect a so we give them all american islamic i don't think they get senators so like the squad gets two more members

there would be true yeah that would be part of the deal that would be a part of the deal i mean American passport. Do they get senators? So like the squad gets two more members? Yeah, that would be part of the deal. That would be a part of the deal. I mean, they would get senators, they would get representation, they'd get American tax money. Israel can be the 51st state.

Actually, my friend that told me this said he wanted to make them both American states. If we're going to get another state, I say we take the Baja Peninsula next time we bail out

the Mexican banks, you know, and then we can increase our land that way. At least it'll be attached to us and it's way easier to defend. Why would we take... Wait, I think the idea of uniting states

doesn't stop in North America. We could have a global citizenry of united, delocalized state governments. This is like British Empire stuff, man. This is like... No, that was an empire. I'm not talking about that. What if the sun never set on America?

Ian starts working out and now he wants total global intervention. No, dude, I don't care what they're doing in North Dakota, man. I'm not the kind of guy that would send the feds in. So you don't care what's happening in our own country, but you'd rather send our military forces to two different countries. That doesn't make sense to me. Well, you know, they defend themselves.

They have state militia. They have state government. It would take 40 years to set the thing up. And Palestine doesn't have a way to defend itself. They're clearly obviously able to launch violent attacks. Israel is obviously able to retaliate. Don't conflate Palestine andine and hamas i'm not saying why not because the palestinians a lot of those people are civilians they voted for it

some of them you said 44 yeah that's called the plurality that's some of them that's less than half of them man and that's voting and that's only adults so so how many kids are in there and they're not they're not hamas not right now let's know how many kids are in there? And they're not Hamas? Not right now. How many? 100,000? 800,000? The thing is they're still willing to put a missile system on top of a school. I know. They're held hostage.

Children's hospital and stuff like that. I know they're being held hostage, but even under Geneva's rules, if you're using a school or a hospital or whatever and you're using a missile site there, that's now a military site. It's no longer a hospital or a school. That's why I'm proposing radical solutions because I understand this military doctrine dictates that you wipe them out i understand yeah okay well it's a nonsensical solution i know it seems like it's politically physically militaristically economically impossible not impossible but it would be ridiculously hard but i mean understatement it

is it is for all intents and purposes impossible you need their they would acquiescence it wouldn't be a force okay so so first you'd have to go to full-scale war with Iran because the moment you bring any kind of U.S. presence towards Palestine for the purpose of offering annexation, Iran's going to declare full-scale war. Lebanon and Hezbollah are already threatening to bomb the carrier strike group that's there. Like, it's just nonsense.

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from last Thursday still isn't working on the website. Thanks for all the work you do. Yeah. Who do we have to... Me and Kellen are working on that right now. We have to figure it out is it just something on rumble it might be we haven't i haven't actually checked with them we have to do it it's noted right here on the desk though guys so don't well let's get that up let's do it right now can you message

someone right now and tell them to do it yeah i i'll be able to look after the show all right well i'll do it right now because we're not gonna wait till after the show so we'll just uh i'll just get in this and uh while tim's doing that i'll take the opportunity to show my concept of making palestine the 51st state because it's the best idea i've heard remember north dakota ian doesn't care about you you know when i first heard the idea from a friend i thought it was complete non i was like yeah it's moronic and then i shut the computer off and i was like sitting there i think we should make switzerland the 51st state and then i think we should also make japan the 52nd state like we can't just claim other countries. It doesn't make any sense. Of course we can.

We've been doing it since the dawn of time. Yeah, but people are really against it. I know. I'm British. Let's violate the Geneva Conventions, the Hague Conventions. Let's go to war with Iran, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan. Let's just create... The military-industrial complex grows and grows and grows.

Let's start... I got an idea. No, Ian's right. Let's go to World War III right now. No more waiting. Send in the strike groups. Instantly have war declared on the United States and all of its allies. And nukes go flying over his proposed idea of annexing Palestine.

For the record, World War III began on September 11, 2001. And America's been winning it. You know what? I'm tired of waiting for the nukes to fly. Let's take Ian's idea and get the nukes to launch immediately. I'm still against them being a 51st state, but it would be much flashier this way tim would you rather be wrong be right would you rather be wrong or be dead what if you had to pick if you had to pick one what does that mean just in general but what does that mean would you would you have to find out that everything you thought was real right was

wrong or would you rather be i'm wrong all the time honest question wrong all the time that's why we bring out a bunch of different people from different backgrounds and different political opinions. That's why when I used to say things like, you know, I think there was reasonable gun control. I no longer say these things. That's why we had a legitimate conversation numerous times about abolishing the police and why I've gone on to say that Michael Mouse is correct, that police absolutely would kill children. We saw this in Maui. He was right about that. This is like kind of the premise of the show is that we're learning and experiencing and trying to understand the world.

But the reality of annexing Palestine, which would fundamentally makes no sense because are you talking about Gaza and the West Bank together? We'd have to partition it. So you're talking about first we have to militaristically force a two-state solution, which would then result in war with Iran and Lebanon. Maybe, maybe. Probably Saudi Arabia. If we forced it forced it yeah right so you we can't do that so then there's there's that's it full stop right now before you can offer up your proposal you need a two-state solution in israel yeah okay then we'll come back to us when that happens all right let's read some more raymond g stanley jr says tim shout out to blm woke college students and far leftists thank you for revealing to the world what we've always known about you, that you trash human beings.

May you continue to show your, yes. I'm, you know, a lot of Democrats are coming out, not right being light. There was that guy, David Weissman. I respect what he tweeted. He says the right was right about Black Lives Matter. Yeah. Thank you for recognizing that. That's good. Just says the right was right about black lives matter well yeah thank you for for for recognizing that that's good just have the right direction ryan hunter says i've been handed a life sentence on x for advocating for the use of lethal force in justifiable self

defense y'all won't be seeing that seeing me there anymore and my blue check money will be going to the cast brew coffee now keep rocking you know what we're gonna do we're gonna make cast brew social media we'll make the on the Casper app, you can post your thoughts. I'm kidding. I thought you were going to say we're going to make a blue checkmark roast,

but... Blue checkmark roast. It just tastes like blueberries or whatever. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, results are in of the TimCast IRL audience poll. Should Palestine be the 51st state?

The winner with 42% is no. The second place at 38% is is WTF are you on about? Kalashnikov says so much for breaking out of an open air prison. I don't want US to further any involvement. However, I fully support Israel scorched earth in Gaza. I don't. You see, that's a problem. So when Lindsey Graham goes on TV and says we're in a religious war, level the place. They're playing that message right now for everyone in Gaza

saying, see, this is what they're going to do to you. You have to join us. You have to do these things. That's how you perpetuate war. If Lindsey Graham had gone on TV and said this is a terrible travesty, what Hamas did was an atrocity. They must be held accountable and we will do everything we can to protect those who are innocent civilians.

That would have played substantially better. Instead, he's just making making it all worse because these people want war and they want war with Iran. You ever look at a map and you see you see Iraq and Afghanistan and what's right in the middle. It's almost like we were surrounding their country wonderful cam says in the bible talks about nations will surround israel in the end times craze that it might happen soon love your content guys keep it keep it the fight that's why someone super chattis about the red heifer yeah so i looked it up and i was reading about it like there have been people trying to breed red heifers and import them. Oh wow. Just to like accelerate basically.

Do you get into the religious part of it all? Like are you religious yourself? Do you find the story of the apocalypse and- Well, I'm certainly interested in it. Yeah, for sure. So what are you saying with the red heifer? Oh. Trying to breed? Well, so there it's,

I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about this other than I read one article. Serge might know. And you need like 10 red heifers a pure red heifer with not a single blemish must be sacrificed to purify the third temple which and they haven't seen one in thousands of years and so what happens is they're they're trying they keep breeding red heifers yeah and that it'll be born we'll go this one's it and then it'll grow up and then there will be like a few hairs that are the wrong color like nope not pure right it has to be inspected by numerous scholars and and rabbis to confirm

not a single blemish a perfect red heifer and it's not it's been thousands of years since they've seen one yeah if they genetically engineered one they're trying with that it's not they've been trying it's not working yeah that's crazy like there's always they're all like there's gonna be a few hairs that are the wrong color it's like blemish yep some blemish somewhere a little spot somewhere wow nothing you can do about it yeah but this person's referring to is like the battle of armageddon and megiddo and the megiddo valley and stuff like that if anyone wants to look into it definitely do do your due diligence because it's crazy hmm yeah where's all right Eric Miller says Tim how about making a tribute blend for Casper where all the proceeds go to a cause the discord is supporting once a month and we get coffee yes perhaps it's it's it's

not super easy to set up um a blend and I gotta be completely honest they don't make that much money that's just a reality like we're we want to do um specific blends for various personnel as if you're talking about alex stein primetime grind 2x caffeine and seamus coglins uh you know irish coffee or whatever but like the amount of money that would be made off it is just it's not even worth it's it's almost not even worth promoting individually like that's the that's the problem it's like you know we're going to do it anyway but I think based on what it costs us to make, what we make from it and what the individual, like the amount of money we make off each bag, it doesn't, it can't compare to a normal ad read.

So asking someone like Alex Stein, hey, do an ad read for this coffee and you'll get the profits or whatever. He would make more if he did a normal ad pitch through any other company. Because we just don't make that much money off the coffee. So, buy more coffee! I suppose, though, if we sold all of it at once, it would be worth it. But based on the amount that we sell per

bag, it's not that much. If we launched like 5,000 bags and sold them all in one week, that would definitely be worth it for Alex or Seamus. But I think they're both interested anyway, so we're going to try and do stuff like that. sold them all in one week that would definitely be worth it for you know alex or or seamus but i think they're both interested anyway so we're going to try and do stuff like that sounds like once we franchise that you'll start selling 5 000 bags a week wholesale is is going to be big if we can if we can start moving like 20 to 50 000 bags through a network of smaller stores that's when

you know people like alex are gonna or or like like a charity is really gonna like uh get a good return on this. So that's what we're looking at right now. We're working with Chef Andrew Gruel about the franchising agreement and everything we have to do legally. And then we're also looking at wholesale. And the big win obviously is once you get a contract at a chain of supermarkets, you're good because now you're like instantly moving thousands of bags every week or something. You know, a lot of people, they go to the grocery store, they're like, I want coffee. They'll grab whatever. There are some that I like and some that I don't when I go to the grocery store, but for the most part, we only drink Casper now.

I gotta be honest. We formulated these blends. Most of them, there's a Colombian. It's Colombian. For that reason, I think it's obviously the best coffee I've ever had. Because I put it together. I'm mixing stuff and I'm like, let's try 30%, 30%.

Here's what I like. Here are the flavors that I like. And then I'm like, this is the best coffee ever. Did you do the French roast and stuff as well or were those just regular ones? The French, Colombian. It's just like basic. We get the beans imported. We have a distributor. They put it all together.

But like Appalachian Nights, Roberto Jr., those are blends. Right. Stand Your Ground is a blend. So the stuff that we're making is like a unique, proprietary,

specific thing that we put together. Well, French Roast is still good, guys. I like the French Roast. I like Pumpkin Spice. The French Roast and the Pumpkin Spice

are my least favorites out of all of them. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But Appalachian Nights is just, wow. That's my favorite coffee. Stand your rounds all day. But Rise with Roberto Jr. sells the most.

And it's because people want Roberto Jr. It's a celebrity factor. Yup. That brand power. Roberto Jr. died. He had a heart attack and died suddenly. Our rooster. Yeah, yeah.

He's our true influencer, you know? Uh-huh, yeah. It is crazy, though, that even the rooster is helping sell the product. Appalachian Nights has no mascot. It's just- Because we're here. We're just Appalachia, you know? Yeah.

And people are like, that's cool. So it does sell well, and it's really good, but people want the rooster on the bag. Yeah. They want that rooster. So I'm like, we'll just put more roosters on bags, I guess. Well, because all of the birds, at least as far as I know, all of them have names. At least one point, all of them did. There are so many.

Well, now we have RB3. RB3? Yeah, Roberto Jr.'s son, his heir. And Dorothy, right? No. Dorothy's been around for a while. Who is Roberto Jr.'s mom? That was, I believe that was Katerina.

Maybe she should get a bag. She died. In her memory. Yeah, had cancer. Oh, no. But she should get a badge. She died. But in her memory. Yeah, had cancer. Oh, no. But she's the matriarch of this. Yeah, so the thing is about the original batch of chickens we got, it was in January, and we were warned by the farm

that this is an early and weak batch. It's still cold out. And we were like, no, that's cool, and they've been sick. In fact, two of them died right when we bought them. They were weak and sick. And then Roberto jr was the first born of the original batch and he was sick so it's like but then we brought in some diverse genetics and we've mixed them all and now they're all fairly robust so you know good for the

chickens good for the chickens we got rb3 now looks just like his dad but he's got white on his wings and body. All right. YFET says, Ben Shapiro pointed out that Hamas doesn't live by Western morals. We think it is insane and wild that someone would be had babies because of our morals. Hamas wants the eradication of the Jews, my people. That's another thing that people don't understand is that if you look at the way Israel operates, it's operating under a very typical western moral standard but the the palestinians do not have the the same moral standard this is

why the left supports palestine and the right tends to support israel because you have on the left the oppressed versus oppressor when we had max on the other day he was mentioning that israel has the power here and therefore it's like oh that's the leftist moralist view right if we don't have that i don't think power inherently makes you wrong or evil yeah if if the fighting between israel if no one was funding them and it was just war we'd be like well the war is going on again because you've got war in sudan and somalia how often are we talking about that never the u.s has a vested military interest in israel israel has become more powerful and now the left is saying look look they're oppressors and i'm like well y'all are at war and one side is getting better weapons i would like it there to be no war but there's

there's look man when one side says we want from the river to the sea and the other side is like please stop attacking us you know what do you do you can make land with volcanic magma by redirecting it into the ocean and it'll cool down and create more land mass yes and will that get will they will they clone jerusalem and at least they're like only nine miles away the actual solution would be like create a parallel mirror dimension of an equal and opposite jerusalem oh like in the pod put the negative jerusalem pod yeah bizarre jerusalem yep and then it's like well now which one's the an equal and opposite Jerusalem. Oh, like in the pod? Mega Jerusalem. Jerusalem pod. Mega Jerusalem. Bizarro Jerusalem. Yep. And then it's like,

well, now which one's the real one? I don't know, but you can have that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying Israel's innocent. Or we've got the moon. I mean, there's all kinds of solutions. We could just ship people into space.

We're working on Mars. Underground? We haven't really talked much about the underground lifestyle. Nobody wants to live underground. The problem is they're all fighting over the Holy Land. Subway?

Were you going to say something, Tim, before that? I'm not saying Israel's innocentrael's innocent yeah right people keep saying like look at israel yeah it's war right that's it i mean everybody's innocent but obviously everyone's complicit everyone's involved if the colonists who came to this country were enslaved and caged by the native americans and hundreds of years went by and there was a minority population of white european settlers who still lived here, the left would be like the poor white people. Oh, they're oppressed and mercilessly beaten.

Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's the Marxist worldview of oppressed versus oppressed. Exactly. They're not all exactly right. I said that.

Okay. Let's grab some more super chats here. We got a stink bug flying around. Oh, there's so many. They're invading. Lurch 685 says you guys are full of it. Crying when Israelis chip a nail, but you're silent when Palestinians are massacred en masse.

Complete hypocrisy. Occupied people have the inalienable right to resist. Thank you for the free $10. When Hamas broke out of the fencing and then started killing civilians, I think it's revealing that you called that chipping a nail. So your opinion is, uh, is,

is, is understood. And, uh, I welcome you to give more money to say it, but we see through what you, what you're really saying. Like,

dude, it is reasonable to come out and be like, Hey, I don't like what Israel's doing with Gaza. It's an open air prison. Yes. They, Hamas should not be targeting civilians.

It's bad for them strategically, politically, and it's going to cost them dearly no you can't even say that okay then spare me what that that's why when i see these leftists they're holding signs saying no more funding for israel i'm like what they're really saying is they want israel defenseless so they can eradicate them right yeah that's why i i can't stand that because it's like i'm like opposed to foreign aid for libertarian reasons and like america reasons i can't stand that because it's like i'm like opposed to foreign aid for libertarian reasons and like america reasons i don't you know like what's going on it's not been justified but these people are like yeah i agree no funding for israel because they actually want to go and start killing people yeah yeah we'll grab some more super chats matthew recamp says what tim

is talking about is called semantic shift my favorite example of it is how the original old english meaning of silly was blessed wow really i didn't know that that's interesting and i believe the word sink was created by shakespeare the kitchen sink huh there's like a bunch like he invented a bunch of words he did yeah so many words neglectful sausage says when biden said finish the job he met the crusades did the christians start the crusades i was trying to remember uh yes the crusades were christians going down to recapture the holy land in jerusalem okay when the ottomans had it uh probably i don't think the ottoman empire was like it was exactly the thing but

they're just taking from whoever whoever had it at the time. There's been a lot of them. I think three or four crusades. There are more. Well, there are jihad. There would be a crusade, then a jihad, take it back, then a crusade to take it back, then a jihad to take it back. Yep.

That's why this is not going to be sorted out too easily. It's going to take a while. Heath Hansen says, I know it's been suggested before, but you guys should read The Storm Before the Storm about the fall of the Roman Republic. The parallels to today are striking. Love from the great state of Iowa.

I mean, honest question. Why can't the Palestinian people, if they are in an open air prison, go to, say, Jordan or Saudi Arabia or Egypt, Egypt or Lebanon? Why don't these countries want to accept these these poor refugees who are trapped in an open air prison? Because the point is for them to be trapped in an open-air prison. It's to have that, because they want the leverage to make Israel look bad, to attack Israel and take over. The point is taking over Israel.

Yeah, at the end of the day. Yeah, at the end of the day. So they need, so of course they're not going to want to move those people into their own countries and safe countries. Exactly. Oh, here's a good one. M says, Madeleine Albright said, it was worth it when talking about half a million children dying in iraq based on lies so she's a terrorist right yes yeah absolutely yes uh no question from us i don't know what you think here we agree um uh barack obama should be criminally charged he should be retroactively

impeached and then criminally charged for the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. Make your arguments about Anwar being a jihadi and fighting against America. Fine. But I'm not, we're not going anywhere

with Abdulrahman. If you accidentally kill somebody, that's manslaughter. Barack Obama ordered a drone strike that killed an American citizen. Lock him up.

You want to complain about Donald Trump ordering a commando raid in Yemen which killed an eight-year-old American girl? Absolutely. Investigation. Get the evidence. You prove it down to reasonable doubt, lock him up, impeach him, all that jazz. I will always answer the clarification.

The drone strike in Yemen, we know it's been confirmed and admitted to. And the commando raid in Yemen, while confirmed, we don't have the same hard evidence of the killing of the eight-year-old girl. Those are allegations as of right now. I think they should be investigated 100%. No free passes. No free passes for American war crimes. So, yeah, you want to complain about the Iraq war? Bro, that's what we are all on about. The Iraq war was disgusting. We shouldn't have been there or Afghanistan.

The U.S. really just wants to get that cheap gas, don't they? And they won't build nuclear power. How about that? Anyway. really just wants to get that cheap gas, don't they? And they won't build nuclear power. How about that? Anyway, why if that says special force have been offered to help rescue hostages since some of the hostages are American citizens? That's right. And what they're saying is right now it's logistics and finance.

They're saying no actual boots on the ground, but I fear that it could get to that degree because it's what they do. It's what they do when people get kidnapped. Winston Alexander says, it's what they do it's what they do when people get kidnapped winston alexander says shouldn't pro-palestine american protesters also care about the americans killed or taken hostage also shouldn't we evacuate palestinian americans from gaza war is hell and we are funding both sides war is hell and we are funding both sides good point yeah yep especially if it's true that weapons from ukraine and afghanistan are leaking into

into uh gaza you know where we are getting that money from is the senate the central bank so really it's the central bank that's funding it and they're making money on it because they're getting interest back on their on their loans lurch says i effing told you guys lurch is also the person who said that the terror attack on civilians and the murder of civilians was a chipping was chipping a nail yeah same dude oh well hold on lurch if you think that a bunch of dudes storming into a music festival in a bunch of uh small towns and massacring people is chipping a nail then you clearly have no issue with what israel does in gaza because you know Gaza. That's stubbing a toe.

Yeah, why do you care? Oh, Palestine stubbed their toe. Come on, man. I can't stand the people who are like, we recognize it's war and war is bad. We want there to be no war. But you're not winning any favors from

people who were born after the start of it by celebrating the killing of civilians. Sorry. That's what I was saying to Max the other day. I'm like, okay, Hamas, they feel their only strategy and only tactic is military and the kidnapping of civilians. Then they've lost internationally and they are resigned to their prison. Because the way I see it is if there's somebody locked in jail and they're screaming, I'm innocent, I'm innocent, let me go, I shouldn't be here. And then you're like, man, I don't don't know maybe you are that's horrifying if you are

and then he breaks out one day runs full speed towards some random 20 year old woman and mercilessly beats her to death i'll be like y'all should probably be in prison yeah but then if the prison guards start exterminating all the prisoners then you're like whoa who's the bad guy now well it's more like what do the prisoners do they were like causing ruckuses and like which one of them are evil we don't know but we're gonna let this one out and he turned out to be one of the bad ones and then so you're saying that a bunch of prisoners are making weapons and shivs and guns like chaos in the prison and then they break out and start killing people so the prison guards start shooting at them i'm like uh huh they they it's so like what happened is the prisoners some of the prisoners break out they kill a bunch of people so the

prison guards kill those or they maybe not then what they turn their eyes on all the prisoners that are still behind bars what do they do to them because that's what that's those people in gaza right now but what if they're not those are the civilian prisoners come over here if you don't want to be in prison you're implying that i don't know there's a solution you're implying that israel looks at gaza and says let's just kill people no well that's what you said it's like it's like the analogy of the prison in the way kind of is that israel is targeting the the the military and weapons depots the hamas depots that where they're where they're storing weapons and their base of operations that's the argument and you can argue that israel takes a wide respect to

what that means and there's a lot of collateral damage. But the implication would be that after a bunch of dudes put a bunch of weapons together in the hospital as a staging ground, then broke out and started killing people, the guards started opening fire on the hospital area. And there were workers and stuff in there who got hit as well. And they were innocent. This is called war. It's called collateral damage. And it's why war is BS. And it's why we hate war.

Because collateral damage always happens. I don't know what to say, man. My point is, if they were really like, hey, we're in an open-air prison, and they broke out, maybe they would run from the prison. Maybe they would run to the area where they were safe and outside of the prison. So the argument about them being in a prison, I think, is nonsense.

Because a prison is something you break out of an escape from no the argument is the land that israelis live on 75 years ago was theirs and they want it back okay well now you're at war that's not about being in prison that's about you wanting to go to war that's why when they break out they go to war so the left lies about everything they're in an open-air prison trying to escape they're they're marching peacefully i'm like bro if they were trying to escape from prison they'd run max last night was saying that they would i don't i'd never heard this before the march of return they would put their weapons away and walk barehanded to the gates and be shot and killed on their way they get shot in the legs get shot and they're like well if we can't petition with our with our hands like open then what that was that was hard to hear and and i suppose the issue is that's the palestinian argument the israeli argument is probably they actually did have weapons they were hiding them not every one

of them did but a leftist tactic that we see in the united states they will call for a public peaceful protest what they're really trying to do is build body mass numbers so that the people with weapons can go and hide in the crowd exactly yeah so when they were like we were marching peacefully israel's probably like dude like one in ten had a gun and they were planning on sneaking through the crowd and shooting at people it's it's their only weapon is international public opinion to be like no look what they're doing to us look they killed all the children that we threw at them to kill yeah they were used as shields that's their only weapon i mean obviously the weapons out they murder people

in terrorist attack, but their most powerful weapon is international opinion and bleeding heart Western liberal governments. Joseph Metzler says, Jordan took in 500,000 of them and they caused many problems.

Jordan killed 30,000 in one summer and forced them all back, forced them all back to Israel. Wow, I did not know that. Well, I don't know. So, fact check. Was there also,

what's the number of Palestinians had Israeli work visas? 30,000, I, I don't know. So, fact check. Was there also, what's the number of how many Palestinians had Israeli work visas? 30,000, I think? Don't know. Something like that? Every day, they go back and forth. They get to work in Israel, they go back. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it wasn't.

Well, there are people of, like, they're Arab Israelis who live in Israel. Yeah, of course. Christian Israelis. Yeah, and Christian, right. Certainly mosques and churches in Israel. Yeah, there's like 400, you know? That's a lot. It's And Christian, right. Certainly mosques and churches in Israel. Yeah. There's like 400. You know, it's a lot. It's not a little amount.

And there's tons of asylum seekers in Israel from Palestine who are gay. Yeah. Who apply for asylum in Israel. Right. Because they'll get killed in Gaza. Yeah. Queers for Palestine. Yeah.

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