Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #885 Far Left STORM CAPITOL In Support Of Gaza, Hospital Strike WAS A HOAX w/Angela McArdle
Episode Date: October 19, 2023Tim, Brett (Pop Culture Crisis), Hannah Claire, & Serge join Angela McArdle to discuss pro-Palestinian supporters storming the US Capitol, WSJ publishing fake news about the Israel War on the front pa...ge of their newspaper, Israel's military mindset vs Hamas' military mindset, & Hamas' leader saying the racism that killed George Floyd is what's causing Israeli strikes on Gaza. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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There was an insurrection at the Capitol.
Far-left extremists in support of Gaza stormed the Cannon Building,
and they were subsequently arrested.
No one's really calling it an insurrection.
I mean, people are jokingly calling it an insurrection.
But yeah, like several hundred far-leftists
stormed the Capitol and got arrested,
but they'll likely get a slap on the wrist,
face no serious charges, and be let go.
So we'll talk about that, though,
because Rashida Tlaib was posting about
how Israel bombed a hospital, killing hundreds of civilians, And it turns out that whole story was a hoax.
And this is fascinating because last night we're basically debating it. Who did it? Was it
Palestine? Was it was it Israel? And it turns out it was nobody. I mean, technically it was
likely Hamas, but it was a parking lot fire. No joke. Video emerging after the fact in daylight
shows the hospital is still intact, was not leveled, was not damaged for the I mean, minor damage, cosmetic damage.
But for the most part, it looks like it was a parking lot fire. Seriously.
So the payload from a Hamas rocket likely fell in the parking lot, injuring civilians, not killing hundreds of them.
That seems to be overt propaganda. Well, how about that? Well, ladies and gentlemen, this, these lies caused the peace mission of Joe Biden to get
canceled in Jordan.
And now Joe Biden says he's going to give $100 million to Gaza.
That's right.
Basically telling the terrorists that if they engage in terrorism, he's going to pay them
a lot of money.
And that to me is absolutely crazy.
So we'll talk about that before we get started, my friends.
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I assume you have joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Angela McArdle.
Hey there. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What do do you do i am the chair of the national libertarian party right on uh you're gonna tell us who's running for president or do
we know what's going on with that or i'll give some updates on who's running for president and
some other really cool political projects we're working on okay all right right on well uh that
was easy thanks for hanging out should be fun we got hannah claire brimelow hey i'm hannah claire
i'm a writer for timcast.com I'm glad to be back. Brett from
Pop Culture Crisis is here with us. Yes.
Hello, guys. My name is Brett. I am the host
of Pop Culture Crisis right here on YouTube,
Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard
Time. That is noon Pacific. You should
come and hang out with us. And
I am here as always,
Serge.com. I'm ready for the episode when you are,
Tim. Here we go. The first story from
the Daily Mail. Pro-Palestinian
protesters invade the Capitol.
More than 300 demonstrators are
arrested after demanding
Israeli ceasefire by staging sit-in
in a rotunda in the
Congress complex. Look at this.
I can't believe what I'm seeing.
This is so
dangerous to our democracy. What these
people did here,
disrupting an official proceeding and parading in a government building,
I guess 20 years?
What do you guys think?
20?
18?
Lock them up?
At least 18.
Solitary.
For the leader.
No trial.
No, we'll just spend two, three years prosecuting them.
We'll send search warrants to their homes.
We'll bring them back to D.C.
We'll make them spend tons of money on legal fees.
Oh wait, no, none of this is going to happen.
Straight to jail.
They should have like,
somebody should Photoshop
in the Q shaman in there.
Someone did that already.
They put the shaman hat
on Rashida Tlaib.
Or the old lady.
In a video.
Or the old lady with the American flag.
That was not in the Capitol.
Oh, that was somewhere else.
Yeah, that one really frustrates me.
It's so annoying.
I see high profile people be like,
look at this little old lady.
She was in Michigan or something.
Oh, wow. It's just some random old lady from a different like or or or oklahoma or something like that because my brain goes she wasn't my brain goes
right to the like in my brain that her and like the shaman guy are like right next to each other
at the same time capital yeah the little lady with the american flag she was not at the capital
i mean i could be wrong my understanding is like that was debunked a long time ago well january 6th was a huge
disappointment and the disappointments keep rolling out yeah but in all seriousness uh
yeah none of these people should go to jail for a long period of time i don't care that they
protested in the capitol but we we can see the double standard oh sure right in front of our
in front of our eyes what's going to happen now is the left is going to come out first of all um i think dave smith came out and made this point
that you know if you're calling for them to be arrested it was the feds who did it was not
the leftists who put you in jail yeah but here's the problem and i agree with what he's saying but
this is exactly what they expect yep the libertarian conservative post-liberal faction
are gonna say no, don't arrest them
because we're good people.
And they'll go, okay, you got it.
And then if you fart,
they'll come and beat the crap out of you
and lock you up for two years.
Because they're not living by the same agreement, right?
Exactly.
They're saying we would do it to you,
but you shouldn't do it to us.
Yeah.
And also they feel justified in what they're doing.
And that is sort of never going to go away.
I think the biggest issue is that there's
a two-tier justice system here,
and it obviously falls around political lines.
We don't play by the same rule book.
It's a real problem in the country.
Hardcore leftists will do anything and everything,
by any means necessary.
That's how they operate politically.
And other people just find that unsavory,
and they don't want to throw down that way.
And so we're always going to be at that disadvantage.
And to the average person, because they don't understand that the media won way. And so we're always going to be at that disadvantage. And to the average person,
because they don't understand that the media
won't report on it in the same way,
it won't be given equal time
or equal explanation by the media,
you won't understand that this is happening there right now.
So nobody ends up finding out.
Nobody who isn't politically initiated
will end up knowing.
Yep.
I do think this is good though,
because the mask has dropped again.
And so people who are on the fence, people who are centrist, who think, oh, I just don't like the fighting. Oh, you know, X, Y, Z. I can't pick a side. It'll help them to really see what's happening like this group is going to have the same supporters no matter what. Hardcore. Yeah. And ultimately, the infighting over whether or not to support Palestine or Israel is going to disrupt leftist communities. But I don't know that it will ultimately make them abandon the party. Right. They'll always unite behind democrats i think i think hardcore leftists will will always unite behind democrats i'm sure that there are some people who are sympathetic to leftist causes and this is a leftist cause even though you know i'm certainly sympathetic
to anyone who was blown up by by the israeli government unjustly that's that's horrendous
but this is by and large a leftist cause in the united states and i hope that people can see that
at least the people leading these these groups in, D.C. are completely hypocritical.
But, you know, there's two great stories in our traditions.
There is Chicken Little and there is the Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Yes.
What happened to Chicken Little?
Did the sky actually fall down?
I think the sky did fall down
yeah it's like the same story like the kid's like wolf and they're like no there's no wolf he's like
there's a wolf like oh there's a wolf no there's no wolf then he's like okay now there's actually
wolf like get out of here kid and then the chicken little was wasn't it the chicken was like the sky
is falling and they're like shut up and they said it again they shut up and then finally it fell and
no one believed him or something yep yeah whatever i don't know all i know is the plot to chicken little right now when hamas uh runs this narrative israel blew up a hospital a press conference is
given where they're like israel warned the hospital they were going to do it and then you
get all these leftists screaming that israel did it and then we're like wow i mean you know we in
good faith want to understand who did this oh sure and then it turns out nobody did it i mean look
it appears that a hamas rocket misfired the payload landed in the parking lot and created a
big fire the hospital is intact hundreds of civilians did not die they lied again these
people lie all the time so when they come out and they're like israel's doing evil things i go shut
your mouths dude i am so sick of you lying to me to get me to support war or hundreds of millions of our dollars being sent
to gaza at this point i'm just like bro i don't care i want nothing to do with it i'm just tired
of being lied to by everybody this is what they do rashida talib immediately comes out and claims
that israel blew up a hospital and people believe it and then the facts come out a day later and
that's of course oh i mean the it's it's it's considerable damage in the parking lot there's no crater sure that's
the cars were on fire that's it do they really even need to exaggerate isn't there enough chaos
and suffering going on over there all of it is lies i'm sorry i'm at the point like they show
me these videos and i'm like gee did an did an earthquake happen? Because they have lied so much. I am done listening to them.
Okay.
I'm just, I'm fed up.
I'm just, I'm, the hospital thing was so infuriating because I see, you know, like Luke Rutkowski
posts, why are my tax dollars going to hitting hospitals?
Because the initial assumption, the Wall Street Journal runs this headline story that, you
know, a blast blows up hospital or whatever.
And then it turns out it's like, oh wait, here, oh, wait, here's video of a rocket misfire.
And then we wake up in the morning and there's footage.
It's like, oh, the parking lot was on fire.
And they claimed hundreds died, but it's not true.
But that story is already out there.
I mean, you pointed out that the Washington Post
put it in their print edition.
Wall Street Journal.
Wall Street Journal.
So there are tons of people who are now
always going to be able to have the image of this headline.
And that's ultimately what I think
this is the objective is anyways.
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It's not to get truth out there.
It's to whip you into a frenzy to support the cause which
is you know one of the grossest parts of politics in any country but definitely in america and way
worse now in the like with as with war being as in the information around war being as immediate
as it is you just you just leak the story you put the story out there and yeah sure maybe five to
ten twenty percent end up reading the retraction or see the follow-up
headline.
But that's a large amount of people, a vast number who will never know that that's not
what happened here.
And even if you do print a retraction, I mean, the thing about war reporting is that it's
all happening so fast, it's very difficult to verify, which means that as the consumer
of it, you should be very careful about what you're seeing and what is being told to you.
But people don't do that.
And so by the time, you know, the Wall Street Journal says, oh, maybe we got it wrong. Actually,
seven other things have happened that they've reported on. So it doesn't really matter.
That never gets fully corrected. Yeah. It's just going to further and deepen the divide in the United States, because now you're going to have a hardcore team Palestine and a hardcore team Israel
who believe different things happen.
Very much.
Fundamentally, they do not even have the same narrative, which is true of all conflicting
causes.
But in this case, there's no way to go back and say this was what happened definitively
because the information that gets circulated.
I mean, this is the downside of the Internet age.
And the Internet is ultimately, you know, a huge blessing in a lot of cases.
But in this case, it means that it's moving so quickly
you have no way to verify it and by the time you watch that one video read that one tweet it's gone
and six other things have replaced it most days i don't actually think the internet was a blessing
anymore like i don't like it's as awful as that sounds like i don't feel like human beings were
designed to be inundated with that much information constantly uh especially when you take into
account your life your work your kids
all these things that take up your time and then you have these stories which are not light stories
these are not stories about celebrities or about something like cheap in the news this is like
really really life-changing stuff and you're not designed to be able to take in all this information
endlessly be able to parse through all the facts and figure it out they have to rely on people to
do that but we can't rely on the media to be the ones to do that openly and honestly this is the
crazy thing for the entirety of human history up until the last 80 years or maybe 100 years
news was few and far between was rare or local just very local very local but barely uh so there
was a newspaper from uh up in martinsburg
i forgot where where it was pulled from uh someone was telling me about it and it was like the that
one of the front page stories was that a guy broke his door on his on his storefront or something
like the newspaper was like jim broke his door and you're like oh jim broke his door
like imagine your community imagine if your newspaper said like your next door neighbor's
dog got out you'd be like oh wow that happened again that was news now it's like every headline
news is like hitler has returned from the grave and you know like world war 17 is happening and
they're competing on a huge scale they need attention from everyone on earth it's the same
reason why people are more likely to know who's running for president than who's actually running for mayor, even though the mayor makes more decisions about their town.
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right that the deluge of information is definitely a hindrance for the
internet. And I go back and forth. Sometimes it is awful. But you know, the internet allows me to
work the job I have right now. The internet allows tons of families to homeschool their children
effectively. The internet allows people to, you people to travel and experience the world while they work remotely.
And so as much as I want to hate the internet all the time,
we are past the point of going without it.
And there are all kinds of things that suffer
when we don't have the infrastructure for the internet.
I think about rural communities
that don't have access to hospitals
or reliable emergency service lines,
partially because all of that goes through the internet. But I do gotta
give it up to the internet. Because imagine
what life was like before it, when
the government would put out a statement saying
Hamas has blown up a hospital,
killing hundreds of people, and you were like
wow, and that was it.
I was talking to a friend about his family
and their view of institutions
and their view of institutions are that institutions
are absolute. And it's kind of crazy, like, the general idea is if it's said on tv it is true period the internet
is all fake and that's the that's the world they live in but that's like a lot of people who are
voting democrat who are watching msnbc and cnn and i think it's an older generation too because
the internet was is more scary it's not to be as trusted and to be fair to the internet a lot of
crazy stuff comes up on the internet.
It is where ideas are fleshed out in a way
that they are not in mainstream media.
Trust the experts, right? And it asks more of you
as the person consuming the information
to be able to make up your own mind about things. I do understand
that, right? When I make that statement, that's a more
doomer take on it. Like, look, we're just not...
But at the same time, when it was just
four news networks deciding
what information you were given, then you've put all the power in the hands of the most elite members of society who will never have your best interests at heart.
I just find that people have talked about how like in the age of the Internet, like we stop looking at things the way we did before.
Right.
Like now when you go to look something up, you're hit with so much.
Yeah.
That you just at least for like for me i find that
i find it i find it difficult right sure to parse through all the information and if that's difficult
when that's your job it's even more difficult if you're just somebody who's trying to stay up on
current events while taking your kids to soccer practice working your your job that's just it's
a lot to ask of people but with freedom comes the responsibility to do that yeah it's psychologically
fatiguing yeah it's psychologically
fatiguing and it's probably related to why we have so many anxiety disorders now when we didn't
back in the day you know the day before the internet because there's no way to unplug but
i like having electricity and yeah i like electricity for sure air conditioning that's a
good one uh with the internet though i don't think it's as addictive as the i mean maybe there were
people who were glued to their tv, definitely when major events were happening.
But the Internet is addictive in a way that mainstream media and the traditional television or radio format is not.
And that has to do with the fact that it's interactive, that you have sort of personally invested yourself.
You have like a social media profile and it means that you constantly want to be checking in on it.
Whereas at one point, you know, the news got boring and you would turn it off and do something else.
Yeah. Let's jump to this story. I have one point, you know, the news got boring and you would turn it off and do something else.
Yeah.
Let's jump to this story.
I have this tweet for you guys from Molly Hemingway.
She said,
I'm so glad I pay hundreds of dollars a year for this level of quality in my newspaper front page,
the wall street journal blast at Gaza hospital kills hundreds,
hundreds.
Oh,
geez.
What really happened?
Oh,
the wall street journal posted this one at six fifty eight p.m.
tonight.
U.S. experts say evidence suggest Palestinian rocket hit Gaza hospital suggests.
Oh, suggest hit the hospital, hit the hospital.
OK, ladies and gentlemen, how about this article from Tim Cash is published well before the
Wall Street Journal, who apparently just does not want to admit they were wrong on the front page, because
here's the damage. It appears to be
the parking lot. Oliver
Alexander said, IDF drone footage from the hospital
from after the attack shows damage that
is more consistent with a failed rocket than a J
dam. Majority of the damage is concentrated
on the car park with no visible crater.
We also have
this photo right here. Daylight.
I mean, it's bad's bad okay you know i
people got injured in this these cars on fire no crater the hospital was not leveled it appears
no hundreds of civilians did not die they lied they lied this is going to be the first in a long
oh yeah long line of these conflicts it's it's going to be opportunistic on both sides.
Everybody is going to be foaming at the mouth, chomping at the bit to take advantage of any and every little thing that they can.
We had a super chat last night and someone said a Hamas rocket could not level a building.
It had to have been from Israel.
And I immediately said, was the hospital leveled?
I don't know.
Is that what happened?
The whole hospital just collapsed?
Leveled.
Leveled.
See, we go from struck to leveled i don't know is that is that what happened like the whole hospital just collapsed leveled leveled see we go from struck to leveled yep and the art what they were what
they were claiming was that the whole hospital was hit and collapsed killing hundreds of people
well that was the argument that would be awful and thankfully that didn't happen and we should
we how and so i mean this is this is our fault too i mean we're debating whether or not whether
or not it was israel or palestine and we never stopped to ask whether it really happened or not.
It's really difficult to figure it out.
Just like we were looking at that image of Rashida Tlaib earlier wearing the QAnon shaman hat trying to figure out is it a deep fake or not.
And it's fake.
But things make it out of the Internet really quickly.
And everybody has an agenda that they're trying to push.
I mean, the Internet's the biggest game of telephone of all time the agenda i want to push is that the united states should
stay out of it financially yeah i do too yeah i at this point especially but the but now biden
wants to give him 100 million dollars so just justifying the terror attack the biden administration
is trying to make both sides happy and they will proceed to let everyone down because they also
issued they're like we are issuing sanctions against several members and entities affiliated with hamas so they are trying to cover all their bases
this is not going to work the only option really would be to not get involved but of course they're
just making us more involved in ways that are so complicated and are obviously going to backfire
biden's going to strengthen his base by pumping money into any cause he can related to helping palestine and a leftist
activist meanwhile conservatives in the united states are going to scream for israel and dump
more of the united states dollars into israel we already give them billions of dollars we should
just stop giving everyone money we just thoughts and prayers like we're not the world's atm we the
reason we give them money is so they spend it. That's it.
Yeah.
We want, you give $100 million to a handful of world leaders.
They will live like kings and spend that, meaning we will do the labor on their behalf.
Because what do you get?
What do you buy with U.S. dollars?
Things from people who take U.S. dollars, for the most part, as American citizens.
But then it circulates in their countries or that wealth that we produce is shifted off to their country.
These world leaders then agree to use the petrodollar,
and this is the game that's being played.
Yep.
Not everywhere, though.
Not everywhere.
Yep.
Some people are saying they've had enough,
and I don't know whether that's going to play out.
Yep.
I don't know if that's going to be good or bad for us,
but it is happening.
Isn't it kind of funny that around the same time
the BRICS nations are announcing their own currency currency and several nations are announcing they're going to
stop trading in u.s dollars or they're going to start trading in one world war three seems to be
breaking out yep how convenient we've got we've got 19 000 personnel in the mediterranean just
outside of of israel we've got 2 000 uh more ready to be deployed. They're saying the Pentagon is preparing them to go on the ground, potentially.
Yeah, look, the U.S. embassy in Lebanon is set on fire last night.
Yeah, so sad.
They need to cast us a belly.
So, like, okay, so you're saying that, like, supporting Hamas will strengthen his base.
What is the size of, assuming he got 81 million votes right what's the
size of his base and do we really
is it really believable like is that mostly
people supporting Palestine
Biden's gonna lose from this
I don't think it's a good play
it doesn't make sense to me like I have a lot of
friends who are they're political
they're democrats whatever fine
but they're not they're not here supporting
Hamas right now not everyone who's pro-palestine is pro-hamas it's they're two different things
they're related but i think that you know i would hope that a lot of people who are wanting us aid
to go and support palestinians who are suffering they don't want to support terrorists even if i
disagree with them i don't i don't think that they necessarily want to see terrorism supported but look the reality is that part of biden's base
are the same class of people who donate to institutions like harvard and we are seeing
that those donors are pulling their dollars he's hurting either way there's no no positive well
it's not a good move i understand the argument that palestine is not hamas but i do kind of
think that's a bit naive because if you're if jo, I'm going to give $100 million to the people of Palestine,
we know where that money is really going.
It's going to get confiscated by Hamas.
Confiscated or just given to them.
They're the government in Gaza.
They will just take it.
And it's also basically saying, if you engage in terror, even if the money was specifically
given to NGOs and it resulted in people getting cleaner water and buildings and air conditioning
and other things they need,
then Hamas is basically told like,
well, whenever you need money,
whenever you want money for your people,
whether it goes to you or not,
all you got to do is go kill thousands of Israelis.
It's a terrible precedent.
Absolutely.
And so when it comes to these people who are like,
we are defending Palestine.
It's okay.
Well, the Palestinian people vote for Hamas.
Not all of them though.
But the point is that you can argue for civilians that i totally get
but the government stands in the way and what is the solution then the solution is the united
states has got to stay out of it i completely agree so but people who say i'm that want to
support palestine no you there's no way to support one get creative get creative i haven't figured
out how to do that.
No, no, we can stop supporting all of it altogether
or you can support all of it.
Like the idea that you can support the Palestinian people
and not be supporting Hamas is incorrect.
I know, I'm not saying you are directly funding
and allowing Hamas to engage in what they're doing,
but what you give when you donate to these groups
will find its way to empowering Hamas.
Former Congressman Justin Amash, his family was Palestinian, Palestinian Christians, and they were sponsored over here by Christian missionaries.
So I don't know how easy or challenging that is currently, but that's one way to try to help people is get them out of that situation. Sure.
People who are trying to leave, that I can totally agree with.
That's what the first minister of Scotland is saying today.
He said Scotland will take refugees from Gaza.
Be careful who you invite into your country and that's it i mean when you've got
i think the latest numbers that we pulled up a couple days ago was like uh hamas won the election
with like 44 or something i'm not an expert in the region but 44 is i mean that's that's like
the margins we get for presidents in this country i don'm not going to blame everybody for Joe Biden. The people who voted for Joe Biden are to blame.
But you have, it's inseparable, right?
There is going to be, in any material support to Gaza, material support going towards Hamas.
Sure.
It's just like Live Aid.
When politicians and celebrities and musicians, everybody got together to pump money into Africa,
it went
to african warlords it didn't go to the people who needed it this is true for anywhere we give money
this includes israel yeah absolutely when we when we when we give money to donate to israel you are
strengthening the economy and the structure and the infrastructure of israel which ultimately can
run up to the idf to the israeli government i am not saying that is right or wrong for either i'm
saying they're inseparable so that there's i'm frustrated by the people who are like we don't we don't like what
hamas is doing we support the palestinian people and it's like well the plurality of the voters
support hamas and hamas just massacred a bunch of civilians and now our government's giving them
more money i got a simple solution cut it off i think no no more no more funding the best thing
that we could do is try to
try to facilitate peace talks it's not gone well in the past that's that's about it that's and
that's and that's the thing it's like i look man there's no easy answer here yeah i see what i see
here with this conflict is really exemplified by what we see with the left where these leftists
are cheering for death a lot of them are yeah i, when they post a picture of a paraglider.
That's gross.
They're celebrating death.
Absolutely.
No question.
And maybe there's the banality of evil in the morons on the left
who have no idea what actually happened
and are just waving the flags and raising the fist.
But when these groups organize an outright issue statement saying
they're freedom fighters,
when the professor said settlers are not said, settlers are not civilians.
They will lie to your face, as they've done.
They will cheer for death, and then
we're supposed to sit back and be like,
let's be reasonable here, guys.
Let's make sure we're helping the civilians.
Like, no, no, no, dude, dude, they're lying
to you, and they're committing, the people,
Hamas is killing people. I'm not
saying Israel is innocent. I'm not saying any country
in war.
There's always some nuance to the conflict.
There's always collateral damage.
It's never good, but I'm just sick of being lied to.
And when you look at what the left says and does, they cheer for your death and they lie about being victims.
So it's just like, stop, just stop.
The Israeli government does not treat people well over there.
But there's no, that doesn't justify murdering people with paragliders and it's really unfortunate that people on both sides no one will just admit murder is wrong so so when when we have this video that comes out um and we had we had
max blumenthal and he's talking about the march of return okay palestinians peacefully marched
to the fence with their hands up and israel still shot at them okay that that's the kind of story
we're like oh oh, wow.
I mean, like that sounds really bad.
Why would they do that?
Well, here's the question I have.
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Oh, wow.
I mean, you'd see a lot of different mixed reactions there.
But I think you'd see violence.
Yeah.
You'd see a massacre.
By who?
I mean, both sides, I assume.
I doubt the old ladies in the kibbutzes are going to pick up
guns and no not old ladies no what likely would happen is there's going to be a bunch of fighting
age young men mainly hamas substantially more than we saw actually paraglide because paragliding is
difficult and more expensive and they would rampage through the kibbutzes the villages
make their way to tel aviv and start just massacring people with rifles i think you'd
probably see some israelis who were angry doing similar things yes but the israelis aren't
going to storm into gaza if the if the security barrier of gaza was removed israeli citizens are
not going to run full speed into gaza to start massacring people it's defensive versus offensive
i think we're missing that i mean so there was this irish politician who i saw a clip of talking
about how i think his name's paul murphy talking about how people should he's pro-Palestine or I mean you could I don't know
if you would argue that he's pro-Hamas but he's saying that this is not a conflict between equals
because Israel is significantly more financially militarily advantaged but I don't think that may
be true on the other hand the solution being, we should have peace talks is almost to me ineffective
because there's no peace
between these two people.
I don't think it will be.
They have been at conflict
for a long time
and Israel has been,
you know,
has taken aggressive moves
in their own step
and Palestine and Hamas
have responded in turn.
I mean,
what would peace possibly look like
between these two?
I don't think they're ever going to get... that Hamas rejects? I think the best you can do is... Hamas would never back down. I mean, what would peace possibly look like between these two? I don't think you're ever going to get...
Two-state solution that Hamas rejects?
I think the best you can do is...
Hamas would never back down. I mean, I don't think that there's any...
From what I know, and I've been trying to research this more, for Palestinians,
there is no compromise because they always feel like they are getting the short end of the stick.
The best you could do is try to negotiate a two-state solution. I don't think that there
will ever be peace in the Middle East, but I think that it's possible we could deescalate this and there would be less death.
There will never be a two state solution when one side says no.
And from the river to the sea.
Well, both sides are saying no right now.
Yeah.
But one side says from the river to the sea, like the left that stormed that capital there, they're chanting for the eradication of Israel.
Patrice Cullors of BLM 2015 said, end Israel outright.
So if we're going to Israel and saying like,
what can we do to stabilize the region
with a two-state solution?
Israel has an open door for negotiation.
I'm not saying they're innocent.
Didn't a lot of people in Hamas,
didn't they write in their charter
that they wanted to go back to like a 1967 agreement
and have a two-state solution?
So the issue-
I don't want to be arguing for Hamas.
It feels gross. Yeah, no, I mean, Hammas's original charter said the eradication of israel and and
i think it might specifically refer to the jews themselves right yeah and then it was amended i
think in 2017 to tone that language down probably because they knew they relied on international
support but those people sentiments don't change the the issue is i don't care who you support
the issue is there are two ideologically opposed groups.
There is one chanting from the river to the sea.
The other one is just saying it quietly, maybe?
Israel, I don't know if there is a slogan of Israel to chant, other than we've seen some people say they want to glass Gaza or something like that.
That's quite intense.
I don't know if the government is outright coming out and saying those things it seems to be the the israeli government understands the nuances of international
relations and is trying at the very least we can say this whether they are or not they are putting
on the front of we try to minimize civilian casualties and we are only responding we are
not instigating so when you have war between two factions and one side wins there is no solution
where you're just like well
no i i understand these are warring factions with deep ideological tensions going back thousands of
years but let's just let's just have peace it's like well certainly not that's very naive that's
never gonna happen that's very naive i i just i'm looking at this and i'm like well
hamas just lied about everything i mean they they paraglided into uh into israel and they
started killing civilians killing children and that is their their their their their their
military doctrine kill civilians and capture civilians it's terrible so how do we have peace
with that we don't have peace with hamas but. But Hamas is so interesting. The rest of the rest of the people in Palestine, I feel, would really love to have peace talks be a thing.
I think I think that's not true.
I think that's then the answer would be for Israel to invade Gaza and excise Hamas and then restore democratic institutions to the reigning individuals.
Guess what?
They will not accept that.
The other Arabic nations have outright threatened that if Israel does does that it's going to escalate so that's
not going to happen and then israel's other answer is airstrikes on hamas targets which results in
massive collateral damage so we're stuck with an open air stop funding any of it i say the u.s
should not be involved in an unsolvable problem the the one and then another group that loses
is the american people as more of our tax money is funded into i think we should absolutely i think one of
the ways that you might see a better outcome in this is if we stopped giving israel united states
money here's the the argument ben shapiro made which is not without its merit i don't completely
agree is that israel will not allow itself to cease to exist it will not allow defeat
and it and it is considered what the fourth strongest military it is also widely speculated
they have nuclear weapons yeah the samson option is if israel is facing extermination they will
use nukes to defend themselves okay if the u.s does not make every attempt to stabilize the
conflict it will devolve into world war three That's basically what Ben Shapiro's argument was. If Israel invades Gaza now, and then Iran responds,
Syria and Lebanon respond, and then Israel gets overwhelmed from external forces without U.S.
support, Israel fires a nuke on Iran, Iran retaliates, the region lights up, pulling in a
bunch of different nations, leading to a wide scale if if at the very least
a regional annihilation worst case world war three so it's up to team america world police
to step in that's the argument for everyone yeah my argument is the u.s intervention itself
exacerbates that problem in the exact same way absolutely and there is no solution other than
we're walking full speed as
fast as we can into world war three i don't think there's going to be ever like a literal peace in
the middle east i think we could see maybe less conflict and i would love for them to give that
a try and there there is removing our money is the first step in that there is one path towards
peace well it's actually two the the the the path towards peace that we hope for is generational
proximity leading to a generational de-escalation yep as more and more of these people grow up in
these areas and want nothing to do with the conflict they just to live better lives and the
old ideas and traditions fade away they'll start to say like why why why were my great-grandparents
fighting you like i don't want to have anything to do with them.
Just leave me alone.
So one of the things that helped racism
kind of dissipate in the United States
was proximity.
People growing up next to people of other races
being like, we are friends.
Like everything they said about that guy was not true.
And so it removes those stigmas and stereotypes.
We could also remove sanctions on Iran
and kind of just
leave the rest of the middle east alone and stop engaging in regime change every now and then
that would probably i don't think that's gonna i i'll that that won't stabilize the region
i think i think it would stop destabilizing it so much i i think before the united states was
in afghanistan you had the soviets there within the mood and and then we we backed the mujahideen
because we're it's a proxy war so whether it's us china or russia there is going to be foreign influence
manipulating and you and and fighting over the middle east i'm not saying i have a good solution
i'm just saying that it seems that we are facing with with thousands of years of ideological
hatred there the two solutions would be can we just do everything in our power to try
and stabilize this so that over a long period of time the fighting calms down maybe not especially
when you see the the the children in gaza are being taught explicitly to hate they hate us
hate hate us and israel the other solution is the one that nobody likes to admit but is in all sci-fi the trope of what the ai does to bring
about peace wipe out humans well i mean that seems a little maybe a bit much that's the extreme
instance yeah yeah there's peace when there's no one left yeah i think i think we could not do that
i i think you know that our goal is to avoid that from happening. And that is the terrifying outcome of if we can't solve the problem.
Our involvement in the Middle East has just been an absolute failure since the Iraq war.
Since Desert Storm, really.
Well before that, I mean.
Since the Mujahideen.
I mean, look, Iran.
Sure.
The Iranian revolution.
Yeah, absolutely.
And even the idea of proximity doesn't necessarily bear itself out to work because we may have had that at a certain period of time. But then the kids go to college and they learn all the things that they learn now, it's going to take an excessively long period of time.
And as long as military action
is still happening
in the interim,
you create new enemies
with every new military action.
Well, woke students here
hate the Second Amendment
and guns.
So, you know.
That's not true.
Well, I don't know about woke.
The far left likes guns.
It's the liberals who don't.
The liberals don't.
Yeah, the left loves guns.
Leftist college students here,
I would say,
they don't like guns.
It is also funny
that you mentioned T-Met.
I don't know about that. You think they like guns? Yeah, leftists like guns. Leftist college students here, I would say, they don't like guns. It is also funny that you mentioned T-Mobile. I don't know about that.
You think they like guns?
Yeah, leftists like guns.
They have the Red Guard.
They have the John Brown Gun Club.
But I think leftist college students are unique partially because of the impact that the Parkland
school shooting had.
That was one of the big high school to college anti-gun push.
I don't think so.
Vosh is pro-gun. All of the high schoolers that I don't think so. Vosh is pro-gun.
All of the high schoolers
that I worked with
who are now in college
are anti-gun.
He's a prominent leftist
with hundreds of thousands
of followers
and he's 26.
He's a small,
he represents a small demographic
of gun-loving leftists.
I think you're wrong.
The leftists love guns.
It's the average liberal
that hates the guns now.
There's far less,
there's far less of your gun owning blue dog Democrats than there was before.
Yes.
And the rest have been turned by the media,
by Hollywood,
by all these places to be extremely anti-gun because they read articles every
day that says there's been 90 school shootings today.
And all these things,
it is funny that you mentioned team America world police because that movie,
you know,
I mean,
actually when you think about the people that made it back, they might have been more
libertarian, but it would have been Hollywood
back in the day that would have been very like
America needs to stop intervening
in these foreign conflicts. Maybe we'll get
another one, you know, except this time
it seems more like instead of just stay out
it's just give everybody money.
Which is never going to work. That's the most ridiculous
solution of all time. Team America World Bank.
So let's pull out this story from the Post Millennial.
Hamas leader says the same type of racism that killed George Floyd is being used by Israel against the Palestinians.
Where is that quote?
I want to hear the...
All right.
I take this opportunity to remind you of the racist murder of George Floyd. Right. Floyd, he's practicing this occupation against us and our families. to stop him because what he was doing could result in the death of children and himself he begged to be released from the car and then was placed on the ground with a lethal amount of
various drugs in his system officers were trying to subdue him as he was screaming and resisting
eventually he ended up dying now should they have had their their chauvin had his knee on his back
for nine plus minutes maybe not maybe they should have got no they shouldn't have he should have
gotten a medical attention immediately the dude was dying uh presumably due to well i think the official
reporting is that it was cardiac arrest due to pressure but let's just say the dude had a this
is also a fact he had lethal amounts of i think fentanyl and other drugs in the system including
meth so if this guy is arguing that they're just like george floyd it's like okay so you're saying
that you're like chock full of crazy, crazy-ass drugs,
and you're engaging in behaviors that's putting yourselves and others at risk.
And now Israel is trying to stop you from doing that?
Doesn't work the way you thought it would. Here's the argument.
Should George Floyd have been allowed to have chew a speedball and drive an SUV?
Certainly not.
No.
Should the police have made an attempt to stop him from doing it?
No. What do you think? You're more libertarian oh man what was happening when that went down he was sitting behind
the wheel of the suv presumably in a drug deal what we think happened is that when the cops came
up he started chewing on the speedball spit it out on the floor crazy amount of drugs in the system
they removed him from the vehicle and asked him to sit down then they were going to bring him to
their suv for an arrest.
Should they have done that
or should they have just said,
just stay in the vehicle and do your drugs?
If they have probable cause,
they pull him out.
So the problem with the George Floyd story
then is they handled it irresponsibly
when they held him on the ground.
Absolutely.
In the body cam footage,
George Floyd is saying,
put me on the ground, put me on the ground, put me on the ground over and over again. And so they agree to Chauvin shows up later, not knowing what's going on, and then puts his knee.
His knee is around the neck and the upper back. It's widely disputed.
They then call medical, which arrives no nine or so minutes later in the defense in the in the in the criminal trial for
chauvin the uh use of force expert for the prosecution said chauvin used a lower amount
of force than was authorized locking up locking him up was clearly political he was authorized
to actually tase george floyd which is an escalation of force and chose not to yeah what
he did wasn't still the wrong but it's still the wrong force it's less force but it's dangerous and irresponsible to put your
i mean knee on someone's neck well that's the argument was it's disputed whether or not it
was actually on his neck or not sure it's like was it was it on his and so back so the issue is
if someone is engaging in behavior that could result in death are you to blame if you engage
in actions that try to stop them from committing violent acts so if a guy let's say has a gun and he's on drugs
and he's and he's holding that gun yeah and he's waving it around yeah and then you tell him to
drop it and then he staggers about falls over and then you're like hey man this guy's gonna
shoot somebody then he raises the gun up at you and you shoot him should you go to jail
i just don't think it's comparable to guy's going to shoot somebody. Then he raises the gun up at you and you shoot him. Should you go to jail?
I just don't think it's comparable to what's going on over there.
You know, unfortunately, this Hamas leader just totally shot himself in the foot with this awful argument.
Well, this is my point.
The argument being made by Hamas is that they are drug addicts engaging in extremely dangerous
behavior that will kill others and themselves.
And Israel is trying to stop them.
Well, but he mostly said it just to invoke sympathy of course yeah he's just no no but i'm gonna give
it to him i'm gonna give it to him you're gonna give it to him well i think it's unfortunate that
everyone in palestine is getting caught up in his awful awful argument what if the people in
palestine i don't know like rose up and like captured and arrested all of the hamas people
said stop doing this that
would be amazing why aren't they doing that i think they're terrified of hamas so they vote for
and some of them i mean when libby emmons was on the other day she was saying one of the things
hamas did was offer social services so some people have a relationship with hamas that at one point
was in some ways positive even if the things they're doing now are negative it's a very
complicated relationship some of them are sure are deeply resentful and also feel tied to it it's like a it's like a
battered battered husband battered wife relationship probably someone over there is
is essentially held hostage and there are ultimately always going to be palestinians
who feel as though israel is in the wrong for being absolutely even if they're not sympathetic
to us they don't want to dispute the land they feel entitled to.
Yeah.
One of the first things
I saw after the initial
airstrike,
after Israel's first
initial airstrike,
was that it was the picture,
oddly enough,
of,
it says,
this is what it looks like
after Israel
dropped bombs on Gaza.
And he says,
just kidding,
this is Minneapolis
after the George Floyd riots
in 2020.
So that actually ties those together even more.
Yeah.
Because it looked almost the same because Minneapolis was destroyed.
As the same way that we might know the names of, you know,
some random people that come out of social movements in other countries.
I really just think that there is no understanding of the implications
of what invoking George Floyd mean other than it makes leftists in America sympathetic to your cause because they
believe it's a racial argument.
In fact,
all the leftists in America probably have no idea what the nuance situation is.
They just know it's,
there are certain sites you're supposed to fall on and they're,
they're attempting to.
We don't really fully understand what it's like to vote in an election where
part of your,
the dominant faction of your government
is essentially a terrorist organization what are the implications of arguing against them
what how what happens when you come out vocally against hamas in palestine that's not something
that we really understand over here actually a lot of them probably would say that about the
american government right they would actually say that like they would say that about every time we
vote for an election here in america we're voting for a terrorist faction they would say that about the american government right they would actually say that like they would say that about every time we vote for an election here in america we're voting for a terrorist faction
they would say that about that's what i'm saying like they would they would take that position the
same way that people here are taking that position when they talk about palestinians
voting for you know a big difference here though is that when our when our government engages in
atrocities it's overseas it's not in like mexico at least not yet you know
we haven't we haven't elected anyone yet who's saying that they're going to go to war in mexico
although we should man because the border is weak we should not go to do we want palestine
i'm just kidding although i do think we should secure the border i mean there is obvious
conflict at the border and there is obviously a level that could be classified as an invasion
and we don't do anything about it.
In fact, we are only interested right now in spending money abroad in Ukraine, in Israel, in Palestine.
And although humanitarianly you want to offer support to those who are suffering, especially those you might consider your ally.
We are not ultimately putting the people of Texas, of Arizona and the States after that.
Hawaii.
Also, the northern border is extremely porous.
It's gotten worse and worse and worse.
So people of upstate New York, people of Vermont, people of Maine,
we put them last in this scenario.
And that's ultimately the U.S. government's
biggest failing in this situation.
That's the most annoying part. Hawaii wasn't that long ago.
Our attention spans
and our memory is that short.
That in between our ninth
funding of Ukraine
and what happened between Israel and Palestine is that
we had several things.
East Palestine here. All sorts
of things are happening here that our
tax dollars, what did they get? $700 in
Hawaii per household or something?
Not even per person? Not even per person.
There's plenty of things that our
tax dollars could be used here in America
and I think that that does resonate
with the average person.
I'd like to believe that the average person who's saying like,
look,
I just want to see the less nuanced position of like,
I just want everybody I'm voting for peace.
I want peace.
What they also mean is like,
we need to focus on what's going on here.
There's plenty to do here.
I don't think that's even like,
people are calling that isolationism.
I don't think it's isolationism.
It's just purely trying to
make something happen.
And is isolationism bad?
I don't think it's totally bad.
Isolationism would mean that we're not engaging in
free trade and having diplomacy. Exactly.
Which is why I was saying it's not isolationism.
It's just recognizing we have problems in our country first.
The thing is, we just do crazy
things when we're on the global stage. We're not consistent
and I just don't know.
Not that I think we shouldn't engage in free trade.
But ultimately, the idea that we have to be involved in everything, everywhere, all the time does not serve the American people.
Just a hint, a whisper of isolationism, please.
And look, if you're going to help somebody else, you have to help yourself first.
You need to like on a plane.
We're not going to put on our oxygen mask.
Secure your mask first before you help someone else. We can do with helping yourself first. You need to like on a plane. We're not going to put on our oxygen mask. Secure your mask first before you help someone else.
We can do with helping ourselves first.
But I think what many people fail to realize is that this argument is essentially like
the chickens in the chicken coop complaining that we only buy certain feed and why are
we spending money outside of the chicken coop?
We take their eggs, they're paying their taxes.
And then they're like, hey, you realize the people who run this show
are wasting our food
and resources
on other houses
and other chicken coops?
Like, what's this all about?
No, the chickens
have no authority.
Their say means nothing.
So we sit here
and we're like,
the American people
are upset about
what's going on.
Bro, since the end
of World War II,
international interests
have superseded
U.S. interests.
Yes.
The purpose of the petrodollar the
international monetary fund visa and mastercard what the american people want is immaterial to
what the massive international institutions are trying to do and what they want i hope more and
more people shift their buying power their savings out of the u.s dollar and into bitcoin we i think
that we need to starve the banks oh elizabeth warren's gonna put you on a list i know yeah but maybe they want bitcoin well they don't get it that's just not how bitcoin
works that's how other cryptocurrency might work they can get into that but not in bitcoin
well why why not what do you think well you can't print bitcoin into oblivion but you can buy it all
oh can you other people own it right you buy from we don't know who all
owns it so the u.s government when when if they're really concerned about bitcoin look i like bitcoin
i think bitcoin's good i have bitcoin but if the u.s government's really concerned about bitcoin
with 33 trillion dollars in debt yeah they could buy out bitcoin i don't know about that i think
that was good that's the only way they couldn't is that some people would not sell. There you go. But that's not enough. There's a lot of people who really, really hate the U.S.
dollar who own a lot of Bitcoin. So it's a lot of wealthy people in Dubai who have a lot of Bitcoin
too. And see, in the interest of the United States to buy as much Bitcoin as possible.
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But they're not doing it.
They want, they're, they're too, they're too hubristic.
They're too hubristic.
Perhaps, but I kind of think they, they would.
And this is the argument that I made
to a bunch of my anarchist and libertarian friends.
If you were a, say, like a council on foreign relations or something like that, and you
believed in some kind of like liberal economic order you're trying to create so that you could
control the flow of currency around the world, what you need is a universal trade. The U.S.
dollar is great, but doesn't penetrate literally everywhere. We do pretty well with it, right?
So you want a one world currency. You want everyone using the same currency. Well, how do you go about doing that? Every time you bring up something like a multinational currency or an international currency, all these crackpot conspiracy theorists, libertarians and anarchists start losing their minds. I got an idea what if we seed them into promoting our universal global currency and get them to be the advocates for it there's an idea so the first thing we'll do is we will
create a digital currency that tracks everything you do so we'll know every purchase you make
we'll we'll be able to track it publicly and openly you won't be able to hide it because
it's not it's not monero it's not zcash it's bitcoin and then what we'll do is we'll go to all the libertarians and tell them hey this is anti-government money meanwhile we're the
ones secretly holding the bulk of it and they won't be able to track it because we have the
machines and we know the plan and they don't then you get a bunch of libertarians being like i'm
gonna buy this up they get really wealthy off of it start advocating for it to be the thing to buy
but bitcoin if you're using it for transactions,
everything you do is tracked publicly.
That's surveillance state 101.
But it's so safe, Tim.
Everyone's so safe now. I like Bitcoin.
I like Bitcoin.
There's a lot of great things about it.
I like crypto in general.
I don't like crypto in general.
I think that it opens the door for central bank digital currencies.
That's what I was joking about.
Being safe isn't safe for the government.
They're taking care of us all.
I think there's a big difference between bitcoin and general oh definitely
there is but the main challenge with bitcoin is that everything you do is publicly tracked
and the government will always know every purchase you've ever made and they want to get rid of cash
and it's libertarians advocating for switching over to a completely digital currency that is
tracked by the government no no no no no no i'm not advocating for switching over completely i'm
saying we need i'm not saying you know'm not saying the libertarians are massively advocating for well sure i mean i'd say the
libertarian party has the official position that everybody should adopt bitcoin but it's
overwhelmingly the libertarians who made bitcoin successful it's good i'm holding out i don't think
it's the government i think that this is this is a smart move and we need to diversify and get off the US dollar. Do you think that Bitcoin is accessible
to the average American?
Meaning like,
what kind of financial literacy do you need to have
to be able to get into Bitcoin?
Because I think there are a lot of people who get,
they hear these stories about malfunctions
or whatever else and they get scared of Bitcoin.
I think probably a good eight hours
of learning about
it that's more than we get in high school in america just a good a good eight hours and you
probably could figure out how to use it safely do you think that everybody should be using it as
their day-to-day currency not yet but eventually maybe we need to we need to make it easier to use
lightning network and things like that. We're not there yet.
Aren't those components of it more centralized, though, and run by big tech guys in Silicon Valley?
No, no.
I don't think that people should be using major trading platforms, if that makes sense.
I think people need to be a little bit safer when they use it.
The reason why Bitcoin forked so many times is because large portions of the community disagree with each other.
And it's direct democracy.
So what happens is 51% of the people running Bitcoin decide a rule change comes into effect and then just boot out the other 49 who now still will have that forked currency.
But that creates Bitcoin cash and like, you know, all these other derivatives of bitcoin because people disagree with the the changes being implemented by the majority it's okay that there's
some choice in currency sure yeah uh that's why i think bitcoin's good but i don't know if i believe
in this like total bitcoin world i don't i don't don't get me wrong i don't think it needs to be
total bitcoin world i think this is a good way to push back against the u.s dollar but so so so what what world is that is that some of the trade we do is in bitcoin some of it is in
dollars i think well it doesn't even necessarily have to be u.s dollars you're gonna have to push
off of the dollar and push against it and see what happens what do you trade with right now
you've got bitcoin people are also they still have gold and silver you know there are gold
bugs out there i'm not so you're not trading with gold and are also, they still have gold and silver. You know, there are gold bugs out there.
I'm not so much into that.
But you're not trading with gold and silver.
Yeah.
Right.
The value of gold and silver is too great based on its weight.
So you could do the gold backs, for instance.
But then it's just like people look at your side.
I'd like you're giving me a polymer enclosed gold foil bill.
What is this?
Let's move.
We've got the pirates and their doubloons.
Let's move more onto Bitcoin and see what happens with the dollar.
My biggest concern is that.
We need to weaken the Federal Reserve.
And I agree with that.
But my concern about Bitcoin is that the government will be able to track everything you do.
I think it's a little doomer.
They can already track everything we do.
Yeah, but not when you buy things in cash.
Or at the very least...
It depends on how large of a transaction it is in cash.
Even then, there's a lot of...
Because if it's going into a bank, it's being tracked.
And banks aren't even giving out certain deposits.
But, you know, if you go buy something, even 10 grand in cash, it's you have a choice of whether you're following the law or not.
Like my attitude is like just pay your taxes.
But there is a bit more leeway in.
So I'll put it this way.
Moxie Marlin Spike made a great point about why why some elite there needs to be room for people
to commit illegal acts yeah and the argument he made was marijuana everybody right now is starting
this is years ago i interviewed him he said people are starting we're starting to see the
legalization of recreational and medicinal marijuana yep but how would people know they
wanted it legal if they never tried it there has to be a little bit of give in the system
otherwise it only flows in
one direction sure and i'm like that's actually completely correct if things become illegal and
then you are prevented from ever seeing it or hearing or touching it eventually we all live
in gray boxes we don't own anything and everything's illegal there has to be a way to push back and
test the boundaries and be like wait wait actually this shouldn't be illegal so the challenge with
bitcoin is that i see everything you do will be completely tracked
and is, and not just by the government, but by any other nefarious actors and foreign
governments.
Well, you can use Monero if you're uncomfortable with Bitcoin.
Right.
So that's why I like crypto.
Sure.
Not just Bitcoin.
Yeah.
Bitcoin itself is good.
So much out there that's so bad though in crypto.
Yeah.
But that's like saying, you know, I bought, you know, a pyrite and it turned out not to
have been gold. I got scammed. It's like, okay, well, you know, someone scammed you know, pyrite and it turned out not to have been gold.
I got scammed.
It's like, OK, well, you know, someone scammed you.
Yeah.
That doesn't mean gold is bad.
You know, so crypto I like.
I think we agree.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, how about we we jump to another story here?
I want to bring up this one.
Beauty tycoon Huda Katan faces furious backlash and boycott threats to her makeup
line after sharing anti-israel video on instagram i don't know this is do you guys know who huda
katan is yeah she has a really popular makeup line especially when this uh this will mean nothing to
the boys in the room but you might get it uh baking which is where you put a lot of like
setting powder under your eyes and then brush it off. She was one of the had a really popular product for that.
And she's carried in Sephora, Ulta, things like that.
She she has gotten in trouble for similar things before.
But obviously now the timing makes everyone's moves more heightened.
I know people often say, you know, you shouldn't you should cancel her.
And they do this with other makeup companies.
So another one was Anastasia Beverly Hills.
Apparently the founder had some pro-Russian statements when the ukraine stuff was happening
so they have great products what everyone needs to understand here is that this uh this famous
celebrity woman who sells makeup is willing to burn everything down around her to support gaza
good for her and people on the right are too busy saying i can't speak up no i can't take the risk
sorry oh but you know it's just it's it's you know i can't do it there you go so long as that's the
case they're going to they're going to continually gain ground now to be fair for a variety of
reasons i think this is actually like my point here is about the conviction of the left,
their willingness
to destroy everything
to get what they want.
People have to take risks.
You have to be able
to be a political risk taker.
But that being said,
I think she'll just end up
losing a ton of money
and her brain
will start fizzling.
She might,
or this might blow over
in a week, honestly.
That's what happens
in the past
because she's a U.S. Iraqi citizen
and she said stuff
that people get upset about
but the boycotts never last.
As long as she has
ownership of her company,
Kat Von D
got in trouble
for saying some
very not PC things,
having some strange
marketing for her cosmetics
and she ended up getting,
she sold her company
but she was almost pushed out.
When was that?
That was recently though, right?
Like not that long ago? A couple years ago. Three years ago, I but she was almost pushed out. What was that? That was recently though, right? Like not that long ago.
It was a couple of years ago.
Three years ago, I think.
She just got baptized.
Whoa, really?
She's had a huge transformation.
She's on an arc right now.
Yeah.
We actually just talked about this today.
It's amazing.
She got baptized a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah.
It's been amazing to watch her get her tattoos blacked out and to be for medical freedom
and move to, where is she ohio ohio really
yeah yeah he's been he's been um i follow all these guys because i have a cosmetics line too
but get this you do i do it's called bonadilla cosmetics no way absolutely are you guys on
public square so i'm in pre-production i've been in pre-production since May. What made you want to do this?
I made it for real women.
By women.
Not for...
Actual women, if you catch my drift.
Yeah, I getcha.
Wasn't there a Sephora?
Wasn't there somebody who was a MAGA supporter
who was Sephora or Ulta
and she was sponsored by them
and they got rid of her
because of stuff she said and did a video with PragerU or something like a year ago.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't know that story specifically.
I mean, Ulta was one of the big Dylan Mulvaney.
Yeah, they were super woke.
Girlhood podcast.
So I basically started a cosmetics line to push back against it and said, we're only
using real women as makeup models.
No Dylan Mulvaney.
People were very offended.
They were like, what about your trans friends?
I was like, well, I'm not upset with them, you know,
but we have to push the Overton window in a certain direction.
And so this is the stand that I'm taking.
We're going to make women's products.
I'm coming up with tampons and things like that too.
It's crazy how now like you have to like, it's all what about ism,
like Victoria's Secret, like Victoria's Secret saying like,
they're like, you need to have people who aren't super hot too
they're like
why can't they
why can't you just be like
no we don't
no
like you can do that
we don't need to do that
let's just have
young attractive models
showing off products
and that's okay
yeah
the fun hasn't made them
feel guilty about that
they don't feel like
they can do that anymore
now to be fair
a lot of their models
are underage
and I think they should
not do that
no no no
we should have people
in their you know 18 in theirs, showing off products and making products
look appealing and nice.
I think that's good marketing.
Sure, sure.
What I'm saying is there's a lot of people who don't realize when they go to the mall
and they're walking past these mall stores with these women, those women are like 15
years old.
Those girls are like 15 years old.
I worked as a jean model briefly when I was like 18, 19, and most of the competition was
like 15 to
17 that's messed up it's just weird was it victoria's secret i mean it's like when when
they're doing la underwear and stuff it's everywhere it is everywhere it is the biggest
is the is the major the major agencies the international agencies they get 14 15 year
old girls to do underwear modeling it's it's it's messed up they shouldn't do that it's worldwide
okay so last thing about makeup which you'll find interesting the reason i've had production delays is because every company that i
start to purchase materials from instead of coming from canada it all comes from china and i even
busted them on the tracking they were so bold as to issue me a tracking label where it was coming
from beijing i was like why is this taking so long why is this taking so long so we're on our third
round right now do you are you okay with it being produced in China?
I was trying to find something produced in Canada, the United States, just not China.
Yeah.
And they were like, no.
To the point of the article though now, like celebrities are having a really hard time
not talking about stuff like this.
And there's just so many of them.
I'm like, you would do so well to just not, you don't have to have a stance on everything.
Was it Alicia Keys?
Yes.
She said she wanted to go paragliding.
Like,
I have no,
I have no idea what her politics are.
If that's true.
If that is like a coincidence,
it's the worst coincidence.
She posted on Instagram.
What would you do if you weren't afraid?
I'd try paragliding.
And then she posted the side eye emoji,
which like the side eye emoji makes it seem like we should not kill people.
Why should this?
Why is that?
But then she
responds with like an instagram story she's like oh i didn't mean that like i pray for peace from
everyone testing the water she wanted to see what would happen and that's it because we know that
there are a lot of young more radical left-leaning people who are backing palestine in this and
that's what she's doing she's seeing a response and we know black lives matter
foundationally wants to end is. Other people they align themselves with
are falling onto certain sides.
I mean, with Huda Beauty,
I wouldn't be surprised
if now you get a whole wave of young women
who are like,
I'm specifically buying her products
because I also believe in that.
I'm so annoyed.
That's the thing about all the virtue signaling.
Is that really bigger than just a large market?
Especially if you're already established, right?
Does Alicia Keys benefit,
does her music benefit
from making a,
Is she still making music?
to make a post like that
when you're already
mainstream established?
Like, just stay out of it.
What's Taylor Swift doing?
She has the best marketing.
She is just dating
a football player
and staying in her lane.
Good for her.
She does drink Bud Light
and is sponsored by Pfizer,
but domestic issues.
To what you said earlier,
like what you were talking earlier,
like all the news is like crap
and it's war and it's death. And I and i was like no because there was like a really funny
article the other day where some poor people magazine person had to write a headline it's like
taylor swift has now held travis kelsey's hand twice in public some poor lady had to write that
it's like we're in middle school i saw that post and then immediately messaged on instagram to some
of my friends that i went to see tay Swift with being like, they're holding hands.
She got four years in J school,
$80,000 in debt.
And they're like, wow, holding hands twice.
Write it up.
But you're like, we've now gone like,
like the amount of time
you have to spend talking about her
because like every institution
and every business has tried to like
weasel their way into her life.
No one lives more rent free
in everyone's head than Taylor Swift.
Yeah, I'm not a fan,
but man, I wish the news was consumed with Taylor Swift
and not people dying in Israel and Gaza.
All domestic issues are Taylor Swift right now.
I don't understand why.
Look, when I see the Taylor Swift hate,
I'm like, it's fake.
Like, dude, there's no reason to hate her.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, it's just like people ragging on her
and i'm
like she's a pop star like she's dancing on stage i saw someone saying that that she must be doing
horribly if she was dating a professional athlete no everyone else is like i'm super i'm super
her tour is like it's a mass 2.2 billion already her movie made something ridiculous amount of
money like taylor's doing fine you all should aspire
to be on her level of calm right now and like people are like you guys have you guys keep
talking about like we don't i don't want to i have no desire to talk about her but she's relevant
in almost every like how old is she she's 33 33 i'm very interested in her marketing
yeah oh no that's that's the thing that they're saying. She's eligible in 2024. She'll be she would be 35 on inauguration day.
Stay out of. Oh, so January, January 20th is her birthday.
She would. No, but she but she will be before that. She will be 35 by inauguration day.
They pointed out when Biden got elected to stay here. Stay out of politics.
I've talked about how I long for the Donald Trump speakership of the House, how that would be so amazing.
But if anyone who is, if God or the simulation aliens,
whatever you believe in, could bring about this
radical libertarian Taylor Swift arc,
where she just starts coming out being like,
I don't even understand why we're engaging
in these foreign wars.
I'm going to run for president and then wins.
Well, she's about to go on a global tour, tour right so she has a chance to really develop her diplomatic
skills i think this is a great idea okay i like taylor swift as our diplomat i like that no but
like could you imagine just all of a sudden right before like in mid 2024 she's taking this like
very political libertarian streak and she would have to marry travis kelsey then because then it
would be like this this uh blonde pop star with the football player running for the White House.
I don't see any regime change under her leadership.
I see concerts.
There's some great Taylor Swift for President conspiracies.
I invite everyone to go read them.
I doubt it, but I'm a huge fan.
They are fantastic.
I will be reading some.
I just think she's really doing a service
to all fathers in the country right now,
giving their daughters a reason to watch football with them.
She's strengthening the family.
She's doing everything.
There's hilarious.
Everyone's posting ones in chat like,
no.
I don't care.
I'm here for a good time,
not for a long time, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
We're speaking into existence.
But look, I'm saying.
No, I don't think she'll run for president.
I'm saying if like I could wish upon a star
and it would come true,
it would be like Taylor Swift
all of a sudden comes out
with very pragmatic
and like logical political
stances, anti-interventionist,
balanced budget,
responsibility, individualism,
and then wins. Do leftist
girls like Taylor Swift?
Yeah, everyone likes Taylor Swift.
She crosses the aisle.
Even when you don't want to, people like her. The girls who like
Taylor Swift have the views of Taylor Swift.
If Taylor Swift came out right now
and said no more funding.
I mean, look, Taylor Swift
very likely could come out
because of like a leftist view
and say no funding for Israel.
And then you'd get
every 15 year old girl
being like,
no money for Israel.
Just screaming at the top of their lungs.
She said she could do this to us.
She could say,
I don't think we should invest
money abroad.
And all the young girls
would be like,
well, Taylor said.
You know what?
I like it.
How the hell did we get on this?
Like, it's just like,
it's done with my show.
I've escaped this news and I'm back here.
I didn't bring this up.
This is not my fault.
I think you brought it up.
I think I brought it up.
I don't even like Taylor Swift.
I can't escape it.
This is awful.
We're talking about marketing.
Look, the point is,
these high profile leftists
are willing to sabotage their entire careers
for their values.
They care more.
The right is not.
They care more than the right. The their values they care more they care more than
the right the right has to care more people have to get out there and make themselves vulnerable
and just do it yeah this is crazy i mean this post from her and then we'll talk about something else
but she's like i don't know if you've noticed but israelis from all over the world love your
products this is from one of the fans and she was like so remember this is no israeli buys from you
again anywhere in the world doesn't have doesn't have money to invest and in my opinion because they prefer to invest in weapons
but have a lovely day she says i don't want blood money there you go she's saying listen listen she
is she is she has no problem telling all of her fans that if you're if you are jewish if you are
israeli and you are uninvolved and just a regular civilian and you decide
well Israeli and you decide
not to buy a product, she doesn't
want your blood money. So an
Israeli civilian minding their own business goes
to a store and says, well, you know, I'm not sure I want this. She goes
your money's blood money. She's saying the money of
any Israeli civilian is blood money.
Pretty harsh. She's coming out with a bold stance, you know,
pretty harsh. And this is the left has done
this for ages, right?
There's a lot of people,
if you don't like my politics, don't buy my book,
don't buy this, don't buy that.
They have no problem turning away customers
if they don't believe that they fall in line
ideologically with them.
You're right.
No, they'd rather have the customers
that fall in line with their views.
They have rabid followers and loyal followers.
Yeah.
I mean, the thing is,
whether her makeup empire
or career crashes,
burns,
is sort of irrelevant to me.
It's more interesting
that she would say
anything at all.
I agree.
Exactly.
Why?
We've got to jump to this story.
This is huge,
huge breaking news.
Ladies and gentlemen,
from Newsweek.com,
Alex Jones warns
of possible terrorist attacks
in the U.S. I can't believe it. That's crazy. Of all the people, Alex Jones saying this? I mean attacks in the U.S.
I can't believe it.
That's crazy.
Of all the people, Alex Jones saying this?
I mean, if Alex is saying it, you know, this is a shocking thing for him to say.
It must be true.
Yeah.
Well, Newsweek loves him.
They trust him implicitly.
Let me just ask this question first.
I want to say this.
Yeah, Alex is correct.
There's a fear considering the open course border and what's going on with the israel and and hamas there could be terror attacks but i why is newsweek running a headline
alex jones warrants of terror attacks this is definitely one journals on their desk who's like
i gotta get to my last story of the day all right so let me let me newsweek has actually been very
friendly to me and i think they've been pretty good. Of all of the mainstream corporate media outlets,
I think Newsweek
is the most libertarian friendly.
Well, they've got,
is Batia still there?
Because she's fantastic.
I don't know.
They've given a lot of pushback
to the lies and manipulations
from the establishment narratives.
They publish a lot of my op-eds.
I have a lot of op-eds.
That's cool.
No, I'm just wondering,
Alex Jones warns of terror attacks
quite a bit.
Yeah, he does.
You know what I mean?
Maybe there was something
about this particular terror attack
he's talking about.
Do they give any more details?
Well, of course, of course.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Yeah, they say that
because of a Hamas attack on Israel
that America has the same problem.
Hamas led, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Jones, without offering evidence,
told Bannon,
he feels it's only a matter
of when, not if,
there's an attack on the U.S. similar to what Israel experienced. I love how they do this without offering evidence, told Bannon he feels it's only a matter of when, not if, there's an attack on the U.S. similar to what Israel experienced.
I love how they do this without offering evidence.
Here's my evidence.
What was it?
Four Iranians captured at the southern border and 200 or so people on the terror watch list.
That's evidence.
Yeah.
There have been multiple arrests of Americans who have been radicalized in major cities in the last year.
I remember one was a white guy from maine who took
a bus to new york or and and uh stabbed someone and he said it was you know he was islamic and
this is this is what he had to do for his whatever rite of passage that doesn't seem like nothing
right this doesn't happen out of nowhere without evidence would mean he has just arrived on the
planet and he's never been involved in american politics. Too bad all the U.S. taxpayer dollars went to build Israel's Iron Dome.
We don't have that.
We don't need that.
We don't even need a wall because that's how good the Biden administration is.
Fantastic.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think Israel would exist without U.S. dollars, obviously.
That is not my problem.
Yeah.
That is so not my problem.
It's not the problem of anyone in the United States for us to be funding any other countries either and nope and yet they're all like please
more money immediately you know that scene in parks and rec where the girl is like more money
please and they're like just give her some so she'll go away yeah i wonder if they would change
the way that they behave if they did not have the united states dollar i don't think they would
exist they wouldn't israel yeah i don't think they would exist they wouldn't israel
yeah i don't think they wouldn't exist that without the iron dome they they you would not
be able to live there well okay they've got it now let's just cut them off you know yeah but
like maintaining the iron daddy's trust fund well you know get creative don't they don't they create
tons of pharmaceuticals including hormones and they do they do and they also do a lot of
surveillance technology and uh i think they do a lot of surveillance technology and uh
i think they do a lot of um military tech stuff as well they're very smart they figure it out
did you see that story that was in the news it says like i'm trans and i support palestine but
israel creates my that's from 2018 but i'm saying but it was like uh like that's a timeless yes a
timeless tale timeless tale as old as time i mean mean, it was a great insight into the fact that this has been a long raising tension
within super progressive communities in the US, right?
This isn't something that just, I think that's what bothers me most about all of this is
that it's not like on October 7th, Hamas just attacked out of nowhere.
This has been building for a long time.
And in fact, we know that because our own political circles are having trouble reconciling
when they share certain opinions with people
but also disagree on this issue.
Is anyone trying to do,
trying to just engage Hamas in talks,
even if it's not peace talks?
Just, hey, by the way.
There was the pizza ball from,
oh, maybe Jordan is.
I was thinking about the Catholic leader
that's based, the patriarch of Jerusalem.
Oh, no, Saudi Arabia.
He was saying it's very hard to get them on the phone.
I think Saudi Arabia is having a meeting with Hamas.
Let me check.
That's good.
Someone needs to do that.
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But again, Hamas would have to be open
to it, and I don't know that that's
Hamas' top priority right now, because they are
not motivated for peace, because they're
motivated for the land. They did reach out.
They did reach out initially, I believe.
Almost initially, but after that, I haven't heard anything else
about it. Oh, okay. Well, the
larger story is that
Israeli and Saudi leaders were going to be meeting to have peace talks, and then Hamas fired a bunch of rockets. about it oh okay well the the the larger story is that is uh israel israeli and saudi leaders
were going to be meeting to have peace talks and then hamas fired a bunch of rockets yeah
and now it's off and now it's off yeah now it's off someone needs to be aggressively trying to
talk to these people i don't even i don't even think i'd start with calling it a peace talk but
maybe a what the hell talk can we have a what the hell talk i mean we had max blumenthal here he
basically said that the reason hamas attacked israel is because israel was having these what the hell talk can we have a what the hell talk i mean we had max blumenthal here he basically
said that the reason hamas attacked israel is because israel was having these normalization
conversations and they didn't want it yeah i'm like they're evil yeah that's max's max really
knows his stuff he's very good on foreign policy yeah but he's you know he's very pro-palestine
he's outright saying like hamas engaged in these these actions targeting civilians and and and
killing people because they were trying to stop peace in the middle east out of desperation yeah well because peace in the middle east for
them is a loss right like they don't want peace in the middle east because they don't want a two
state solution maybe i'm wrong and misinterpreting this but the the thing that israel or other
countries might present as peace is still considered so not satisfactory it seems incredibly
disgusting and unsavory and unbelievable for us to like kind of have to wrestle with this right now.
But when you look back throughout history and you look at things like the USS Liberty and the bombing of Pearl Harbor, there are things that are highly suspicious that our government has had intelligence on 9-11 and then maybe it happened anyway.
And so there's a real argument as to how much they knew is not out of the question that Israel might have known what was going to happen and allowed it to happen.
I don't know for sure that that's the case, but it's not inconceivable.
But I do think it's highly improbable.
And I asked Max about it, and Max also disagreed.
He said that Israel has this very serious, I forget what he called it,
it's a military doctrine where they will shoot
to kill their own soldiers if they're being captured by Hamas.
That's how much they do not want Israeli soldiers
to be captured by Hamas.
Oh, I understand.
The idea that they would allow hundreds of civilians
and soldiers to be captured is unquestionable.
How did they miss an attack when they have such high surveillance?
That's the thing.
The guy who came out and spoke for
Hamas said that they had only spoken about
between like three or four of the top
individuals within Hamas.
It was all like
super hush hush on purpose because they know they can
catch up on them. And not just that, a lot of people
are pointing to Egypt having warned Israel ten days
prior that that's evidence. And it's like, dude,
if someone comes to you and says, hey man,
something big might be coming, like keep your security up you'll be like okay does it mean
you know that like a bunch of dudes are going to break into your garage and steal your car right no
no i i i think it's possible i think i think there's a possibility that israel i think it's
suspicious i think it's suspicious and i think people should be open to it but i do think there
should be evidence before we make you know i just think it's it's substantially less likely the the argument is that the the political state of israel has been in
disarray there's been massive conflict and protests and this this conflict has resulted in you know
netanyahu getting new people rallying around them but i don't agree with that because if you look at
the the collapse of the peace agreements israel's on the verge of making a whole lot of money and getting a whole lot of influence in
the region if these peace talks go through it all falls apart right now yeah i i think more
likely hamas caught them off guard they didn't expect it to happen and they retaliated and now
they've just lost this tremendous opportunity i mean the idea that they were going to have
economic normalization was about to make the region substantially wealthier gone so you know when i think about
it i'm like i don't see the israeli leadership as ideological as hamas though i do see them as
more ideological than we would expect someone to be yes more more ideological than we are here
right especially zionists overt zionists but uh i think for the average person money talks bs walks i
think for hamas that's not the case i agree so when it comes to what seems to make the most sense
a lot of very very wealthy people who are israeli have lost a lot of money over this happening and
i really don't see the nepotism and the elitism allowing something like that to happen like i
don't see them going and being like we knowitism allowing something like that to happen like i don't see
them going and being like we know this might happen and all of our most wealthy connected
families are gonna lose lots of money over it and i'm they're probably the phone calls came in
i'm sure billionaires screaming in faces serious threats i will end your political career how did
you miss this i really doubt some billionaire was like,
well, I'm going to lose 100 million tomorrow,
but it's okay.
I don't think so.
But everyone is rallying around Netanyahu.
Sure.
I mean, that happens.
There are a lot of people that I've talked to about it
where they're like,
I know someone who's got a wealthy family
that they're Israeli,
but they live in New York or whatever.
I'm like, I don't think these people
wanted to lose massive portions of their net worth.
No, certainly not. Yeah. i don't think they're that
ideological net netanyahu may may see some benefit from this but i ultimately think it's going to
cost him substantially politically like at the very least he's going to owe a lot of people a
lot of stuff and not just him a lot of people in the israeli government who miss this do we know
how long he's been in office oh man it's like 16 years a really long time he was out of office for a minute there right he like
got re-elected right yeah i can look it up 16 years from 96 to 99 and from from 2009 to 2021
yeah for a long time yeah so hard to get rid of a wartime president.
Yeah, and they're in war quite a bit.
But I guess the bigger question is,
was Alex Jones right?
Or is he going to be right? We have a jar here that says he is all the time.
Yeah, it's got a lot of money in it.
It's a really big jar relative to, you know.
It's a really big jar.
It is.
There's also a lot of fake money.
I was going to say say I think most of that
money is fake
there's some real money
is there some real money
there's like
prop stacks of
hundred dollar bills
in there
I always tell people
cause like
on the show
on PCC
we have the
money guns
I was like
we can put like
five real hundred dollar
bills in there
and say anybody
wants to help
clean it up
like you can keep
the real hundred
if you find it
you should get an
Alex Jones was right
jar
and put it on the table and then when the real hundred if you find it. You should get an Alex Jones was right jar and put it on the table.
And then when the money goes off,
you're like trying to catch the money.
I mean, I think this statement is not specific enough
to say whether he's right or wrong
because it's probably it will happen.
It's no shade to Newsweek journalists.
I also sometimes struggle to get a story out
at the end of the day,
but I would like to have seen more specific.
I just thought it was funny.
They would also deny the evidence anyways.
But it's just Ron DeSantis said the same thing.
And so, you know, Kevin McCarthy said the same thing.
It's not surprising that Alex Jones is now saying the same thing.
When Alex predicted the Russian invasion in Ukraine,
everybody started losing it being like, dude,
several months ago, he warned
this was going to happen, like, almost
specifically in, like,
to the T. And, you know,
I was talking to him about it, because we had that event, and he was like,
he's like, Tim, I just read the news. I don't know
what I'm, he was basically like,
everyone was surprised he got it right, and he was like, there's a bunch of news
stories about it, like, he wasn't doing anything.
But it's because there's a caricature that he's
just this loud, dumb guy who screams on youtube or whatever like a lot of people
mainstream and left-leaning don't know anything about him so the fact that he would get anything
right is just shocking to him because they only know him as this guy who gets everything wrong
and he says these crazy things but you know we have to do this uh i don't care i don't care
about politics tim's show i don't care i just found out about this and I want to talk about
it. From Defector.com is Ron
DeSantis wearing hidden platform heels
inside his stupid ugly boots.
An investigation. Okay.
This is real journalism. I didn't know about this.
We're going to get President Short King. This has been
going, this has been a story for a long
time and I have no idea how a year
now this story has been around and I did not
know about it. Even I knew about this one and then uh ashley st claire posted a video which clearly shows ronda
sandis wearing super tall lifts with fake toes and i'm like dude he's those are fake like do we have
do we have video of high heel walk uh someone okay i couldn't find any because it's like just
the last minute but apparently people were
were tweeting at me that there's video of him high heel walking high heel walking or drunk
girl in high heel walk like there's there's the 9 p.m and then there's the 3 a.m like clunk clunk
he's been practicing this for a long time he slings them over his shoulder as he's leaving
this is an article from october from just from just a week and a half ago.
And they show these videos
where,
I mean,
look at this.
This is the one
that I saw from,
oh,
you can't pause it.
That's stupid.
Look at that.
His toes are clearly
not in the front
of the boot
and they have
massive platforms.
This is what
I saw Ashley St. Clair
repost.
Can't have a short
And then,
like,
look at this right here.
So, there's no this right here. So,
there's no foot right there.
Yeah,
that's mean, man.
These are his,
like,
live,
laugh,
love,
pumpkin spice,
fall.
He's going for the
Hobby Lobby demographic
right now.
I love this one
with the femur.
This one,
I think,
is silly,
right?
It's honestly,
like,
the argument,
the femur is the longest bone,
so why is his fibula, which would be his second longest bone
So weirdly disproportioned
What is Donald Trump going to do with this?
High heel Ron?
I don't know but like
Some of the
There's clearly no foot in the front of that boot
Look at that
Look how it's bent
What if he just has Very very thin toes
Very
Very thin toes
No because there's
Before and afters
Of him in regular shoes
Where they look normal
We must have been
He's like
I have really bad arches
It's just
I want to see the foot
Why is he wearing
Cowboy boots anyway
Okay fine
You're allowed to wear
Cowboy boots
But look at this right here
I did not know about this
Look there's no foot there
There's no way
There's a foot in that
Now this
Outline is very silly
I don't think
that's correct either but clearly those shoes i mean look the best case scenario i can say for
him is that whoa jack and adam he wears he wears size 12 boots because he's got size seven feet
and he's embarrassed about it worst case form is that he's got high heels on i'm the thing is i've
been trying to figure out how tall he is and I've seen everything from 5'7 to
5'11.
The fact that there's not just one statement
and this guy could just be like,
Can you be 5'11 and
have a size 7 shoe?
Yeah.
Does he have a 5'7 shoe?
I don't know about that.
As somebody who's short,
5'5, he's really missing out On representing me
The short thing
Yes
He lost your vote
He lost my vote
Like I would have been
Perfectly happy
To give this guy my vote
It's the Tom Cruise vote
Okay the thing is
We just need to figure out
How tall his wife is
And then do the thing
Where you take an object
That you know the size of
And compare the difference
Internet sleuths
Could solve this
We just need to be
Ensured that she's not
Wearing heels And he's not wearing boots.
They're from Florida. They went to the beach
together. This is a story from February
14th of this year. Democrat
opposition researcher slams DeSantis for wearing
high-heeled boots. Imagine being that oppo
researcher. They're called cowboy boots. He's like, I went to
college for this. So
this person noticed something weird
and said DeSantis wears high-heeled boots to appear
taller. But this is the clever thing in these
photos there is a lift
on the boots so they can go
they're cowboy boots with a natural heel
on them they're not high heels calm down
but what they're omitting from the people
arguing in favor of them they're omitting that no
the argument is actually that inside the boot
is a lift you can't see it's a hidden lift
and so Matt Whitlock said tell
me you've never seen cowboy boots without telling
me. Touch some grass. No, no, no.
Like, dude, hold on. Like, I'm sorry. I'm gonna
go back to this picture right here. This one right
here. Bro, tell me his foot is in that. Right.
That is not. Tell me he's got big flappy pancake
feet. Big flappy pancake feet.
The Wojack anatomy drawing
is correct.
Like, there's cowboy boots
have a heel on them but this is not
what we're talking
about here at all.
You can't be
a short president
these days.
No he's like
Jaffee Duck
with a little flap.
The internet
has a bunch of stuff
saying that Casey DeSantis
is between 5'5 and 5'6
but then more recent stuff
coming out in 2023
says that she's 5'9
and so I think
Suspicious.
Suspicious.
Someone
headed me off
at the pass here
and we're like,
no, no,
we got to make her taller too.
He needs to bury that story
with the Taylor Swift marketing.
Because if you look
at photos of them,
he's a little bit taller than her.
But what did they say she was?
She was five.
They're saying
that she's 5'5", 5'6",
although more recent entries
say she's 5'9".
So if she's 5'9",
this is the DeSantis
War Room posting this
to get this out there.
She's 5'9", here, then yes, I guess he was 5'11". But if she's 5'5", then he's like 5'9". This is the DeSantis War Room posting this to get this out there. She's 5'9 here, then yes,
I guess he is 5'11". But if she's 5'5",
then he's like 5'8", maybe?
I'm telling you, man. Maybe that's why he won't come on the show
because I'm 5'9", and if we stood
next to each other, I would know how tall he is.
Well, now he's definitely not coming on the show.
Well, they have a mandate not
to allow any of their people to come on our show. Why?
Because I'm so tall. Well, why do you think?
They're like, okay, but Hannah Clare can't be on the show with me.
We need Phil on the show.
Well, now it's definitely not happening.
Yeah, between Phil and I, we just need to stand strategically
next to each other.
Wow, wait, wait, wait. Where did you see that
Casey was 5'9"?
I'm seeing it. I mean, none of them are super reputable
sources. That makes Ron
a veritable six foot right
there well that's what i'm saying that she's probably five five but the the desantis war room
leaked the five nine so it makes him look just a little bit taller look at this picture if if she's
five nine he's six foot he's six feet tall we know he's not are trump people running his campaign
on purpose i mean i swear that's why i tweeted'm like, it has to be that the people who are working for Ron are
secret Trump supporters. It's gotta be. Right.
And they're like... They're playing
the long game. They're sandbagging. Yeah, because
he was in the lead. Yeah.
He was leading in the prediction markets.
He was leading in the polls. And then all of a sudden,
he started slipping on banana peels.
You know, remember when... Because the high heels on the banana peels.
Remember when Sideshow Bob was
stepping on the rakes and hitting him in the face?
Yes, it's just like that.
That's Ron DeSantis' campaign.
And I'm like, somebody put those rakes there.
There's no way he's accidentally just stumbled upon a bunch of rakes on the ground.
It's pretty wild that his...
Okay, come out with a boring, snoozy campaign video and wear high-heeled shoes.
And have your campaign staff and communications people start randomly attacking prominent personalities who support Ron.
I think he should just go for full spike stilettos
and come out to Purple Rain.
As a Minnesotan, I support that idea.
Yes, we need Prince representation.
Yes, we do.
I'm not even kidding.
I think there's a strong possibility that the communications people he hired
are pretending to support him.
I think that's very possible.
Yeah, it's like he does every single thing that you would want to not do.
It seems like he does.
So what did Ashley Sinclair say?
She said he's a Tinder six feet.
Someone commented underneath saying, how tall is he?
And someone said 5'11".
She said, on Tinder, he says 6'1".
Look, as somebody who is 5'5", and refuses to ever exaggerate even to 5'6
like just embrace it dude you're fine
so apparently
according to the internet the average
height of the US president is
5'10 because
which suggests that voters prefer slightly
taller I don't think this is real at all
that's because like 200 years ago
everybody was 5'6 yeah I was just gonna say people
have grown we We've got...
Modern presidents can't be sure.
One of the buildings
on the Fredamistan property
is an 1800s barnhouse.
And you're like,
I'm 5'10-ish,
10 and a half.
You know, got to give a little extra
half an inch there.
But I'm almost banging my head
in this building
because I'm like considered tall
for the era.
Giant Tim Pool.
Yeah, I'm like walking.
I'm like, I feel great.
He doesn't want to go
walk into North Korea and be the same height as kim ja noon my favorite guests were charlie
kirk and vosh because they're both like six five and then they're like let's get a photo together
and i look short everyone's like wow tim's short i'm like dude they're just six five yeah you're
not short for men they are just enormously tall yeah right and then it's like you know i just got
to wait until we can get someone who's not so tall in here and take a picture with them people ask me
that they're like is tim short i'm like no and they're they're like oh i think it has to do with
our i think it's due to our camera angles a bunch of people asked me if i was short when we went to
the miami event or they were like you're so much taller than i thought everyone in tv is really
small that's how we fit on your screens it. It's because when people are used to watching people on TV
and they film from their
chest, the cameras,
and so it's
usually pointed upwards towards people when they're having
conversations, so they look taller.
So imagine how you view
the world when you walk around and you're
looking at people and if you're of average height,
you're looking mostly at eye level.
Then you turn the TV on and everyone is at an angle looking upward.
So you feel shorter than them here in the studio.
The cameras are all slightly above head level.
Otherwise the cameras would bump into our heads.
You'd see the back of,
you know,
Brett's head.
And so there's a natural downward angle.
So everyone makes the assumption that they must be taller than us because
they're looking slightly downward.
So what Ron DeSantis needs to do is hire Tom Cruise's director of photography
who manages to make him look normal height in everything that he's in.
Watch him in Top Gun 1 where they have to film Val Kilmer from like half a block away.
Val Kilmer's sitting down.
Ron's here and the podium's here and the camera's there
and it looks like he's in front of the podium and he's really tall.
He's like way back, way far back.
Is he going to get reelected now that he's had this clown show campaign?'t be re-elected he's he's termed out for governor in florida yeah
oh what's he gonna do next that's why he's running for president that's right not play pro basketball
that's why there was a rumor he was gonna run for senate yeah which i think could have been good
he's gonna have to retire after this i mean that's what that's why i'm like look man i'm not
big on conspiracy theories, but the idea,
no way.
He'll never get elected.
I mean, look,
that's not true.
The people who moved to Florida
love the guy
and they'll vote for him.
And to be honest,
like, you know,
I'd probably vote for him
if he was my congressman too.
Except for the ones
who were mad
that he was running for president.
Yeah, no,
actually I take that back.
I don't know.
I mean,
I think after doing this poorly,
I don't know if I'd even vote for him for Congress. I think he's going to have to maybe fade to the background for a little bit. I mean, my, actually, I take that back. I don't know. I mean, I think after doing this poorly, I don't know if I'd even vote for him for Congress.
I think he's going to have to maybe fade to the background for a little bit.
I mean, my thing is I don't like to short the conservative bench, right?
Like he did do things in Florida that people loved and felt strongly about.
And so I don't think that we should just like wreck everybody right now
and then make it so they can never have a political career.
But I think...
Well, not over shoes.
Would he?
I mean, look, he could just come out and then he gets sponsored. then make it so they can never have a political career but i think not over shoes would he i mean
look he could just come out and then he gets sponsored i just wouldn't vote for him because
he's gonna pump and dump a bunch of money into israel yeah that's that's my current problem
would he have a place in any type of like in a in a cabinet somewhere i mean that's the thing
if his relationship with the presumptive nominee, were to get better in the next 12 months, maybe.
But it's such a long road.
I just think it's hard to say that this time next year when we're a month out, less than a month out from the election, will they be on better terms?
Put him in charge of the Department of Education.
Maybe.
Could be interesting.
But I don't like the idea that we're just attacking all of our talent in primary season and making it impossible to think long term well then
maybe he shouldn't wear high heels well you know he's doing his best to look trustworthy and tall
uh i love that height privilege is alive and well in america some things you just can't get you're
not just not born with it all right i'm i'm pulling up Ashley St. Clair's tweet. I sent this to you, right?
Is this the one?
Wait, wait.
Hold on.
She's got a bunch of videos.
She's loving them right there.
Here we go.
Okay.
POV,
you're Ron DeSantis
getting ready to go out.
I think it's funny
that she has those.
The knee highs.
She's so cute
and so stylish
she probably borrowed
them from
and then I guess
why is she wearing
like a blue power
I love it
stop questioning
Ashley
that is nice
so the DeSantis campaign
actually responded to her
saying POV of nothing
substantive to criticize
DeSantis on
as another
plane load of Americans
arrives home from Israel
and it's just like
they couldn't even
come back with something pithy and funny that was so but like but you're supposed to roll with the punches
not get angry about it especially those types of topics um he would only wear cowboy boots thank
you ashley it's like he picked oh she apologized here you go apology video uh i made a joke about
ron desantis there's a very popular meme going around
that DeSantis wears heels, very high heels.
And I made a joke.
I put on my stilettos and I said,
PLV, you're Ron DeSantis getting ready to go out.
I thought it was funny.
Many people thought it was funny.
I make jokes about everyone, Trump, DeSantis, and Vic,
but the DeSantis team didn't think it was funny.
And that's what's most important.
So I want you to apologize from the bottom of my heart.
And they said it wasn't a very substantive criticism.
And they also notified me that DeSantis doesn't wear stilettos.
He wears cowboy boots.
So not only would I like to apologize, but I would like to be accurate.
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See, that's the one I'm like,
I can't believe she owns this.
I like that she doesn't cut off the end.
She just leaves her like hitting stop on record.
This exemplifies one of the problems of the Tannis campaign.
They are like the nerdy loser kids
who don't have a sense of humor.
When she made the high heels thing,
the response to the DeSantis campaign
should have been to joke along with her.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then post a picture of Ron
wearing moon boots on the moon or something.
He should have gone run with that song
and she beat him to it.
That's the obvious thing.
Sad.
No, it's just because
they're incredibly defensive, I think, because they feel insecure.
I mean, this is...
I think they're sabotaging him.
Oh, that's...
Like, unless Ron, you know, he's like going through his resumes of people for communications
and then he's like, well, none of this works.
So he went down to the local...
He went down on the highway and saw someone holding up a sign being like, hey, you want
to handle my social media for me?
And they're like, okay.
And that's what we got.
Well, you can't tell the difference at this point.
So it is what it is.
And so it was after
like at the debates
when he's like,
I will never let you down
into the weird smile.
That was so uncomfortable.
Like he's never smiled
before in his entire life.
It's his first time.
Figuring out how to smile
in public at the same time.
But you gotta roll with him.
Trump has that,
there's that famous clip
where he's like,
the lights, they're too bright.
They make me look orange.
And it's hilarious.
It is.
Because we call him orange.
But he doesn't care.
He thinks it's funny.
And then he makes it into a joke and everyone laughs and they like it.
Mary believes he's anti-fragile when it comes to cringe.
I want you to imagine this, okay?
Imagine you're in a high school classroom.
And Ron is sitting in the corner,
and he's very studious, and he's writing,
and then he just rips out an awful fart.
And then everyone looks, and they're like,
oh, Ron, did you fart?
And then immediately, there's three kids running away,
why do you care so much?
Do you have no real reason to criticize him?
He didn't fart, you farted, you're a farter.
And you're like, what is going on?
Then compare Trump on the other side of the room,
and he goes, I did it, I did it, ooh, smell it.
And then everyone's laughing,
and Trump's the
overconfident arrogant class clown yeah who makes you smell his farts and ron's the guy who has a
crew around him just denying that a fart ever happened trump won a ton of people over on on
twitter when he was retweeting memes of himself yeah as a wrestler that was like the best part
i just love the uh when he was what did he say about diet that the diet coke tweet he's like i'm still gonna
drink that garbage okay he's like you've never you never see a thin person drinking diet coke
i'm still gonna drink it he's he's very funny he's very funny he is really funny oh well
ashley's ain't care it was funny too she was kind of putting on a little trump impression there
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Good sir, you are.
You win the
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I love this race. Great job. Everyone's fighting
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And so we're going to end up having like 50
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I wonder if there's a way to
No, I don't think we're allowed to reward
people for doing it though. I think it's like sweepstakes
laws or something. Yeah, you can't
do that. We know. We know that you're doing a good job yeah you could but it's you know you're first
there's only like 30 something states i just went through this whole thing we're doing we're trying
to do a football square oh really it's so annoying well that's the other thing too like we're trying
to figure out how to do this like grant program where we grant members money for projects and our lawyers like you can't
do it and we're like well we will know because it's like it's it's a it's a sweepstakes basically
it's a sweepstakes you can do it in certain states but not all of them and there's like
there there are ways to do it but the problem is so long not in west virginia the issue is that
we we want to support our members
who are working on cultural projects with a grant,
but they can't be our members if we're going to do it
because then the argument is we're just, what is it?
Solicitation for a sweepstakes if you're doing,
if we're claiming it's a grant through an external company.
So if we said we will give you 10 grand towards your project,
sweepstakes, okay, well, we have an investment company. Solicitation for a sweepstakes you like the you can't do it so i'm
like that's weird yeah so the only way to do it is to give any random person right has to be
completely open to anyone anywhere basically and i'm like okay that's probably fine like we
probably do it that way but we're still working through the paperwork with our lawyers to figure
out how to do it yeah we've done some stuff that's just not public where
we've given money to various projects people fighting for culture war causes and issues
as well as like people who have you know like i've done i've given a lot to like various gives
and goes and stuff like that but you know all right where we at salty tint man says will the
attention-driven media launch us into World War? Yes
Thank you for your question
Clint Torres says howdy people howdy
But you were number three today Clint you were not number one
Slipping slipping and we notice
Ben Hancock says
I am one of the Marines stationed at the US Embassy in
Jerusalem I have been watching all of this
Unfold from the ground since day one
Needless to say has been a crazy week
And a half wow Wow, man.
Thanks for tuning in.
Stay safe.
Stay safe.
Yes, please.
Michael Leo says 18 USC 2339B providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization.
Does sending $100 million to Gaza count as providing material support for Hamas?
What about donations from all these protesters?
Let's just say yes.
Lock them up.
Lock them up.
Lock them up.
Maybe.
Lock them up.
You know, I'm trying to file for conservatorship of Joe Biden, so maybe you won't get a chance.
Are you really doing that?
Because you should.
Yes.
That's hilarious.
Paperwork is drafted.
I just need the right attorney to file it.
Are you serious?
I'm 100% serious.
That's so funny.
And Mitch McConnell.
Yes.
Yeah, nice.
You should definitely do that.
Yeah.
What a fun twist that would be.
I would put that in the $25 scorecard.
Through a strange legal loophole, court was granted, and the judge was like, look, my
hands are tied.
The law is clear.
I have the Libertarian Party trying to file.
Because in D.C., a corporation or an organization can do it.
We're incorporated in D.C. You can file conservatorship on a random person an organization can do it we're incorporated in dc you can file
conservatorship on a random person well we have a relationship he's the president this is amazing
i'm plodded this creativity yeah fun does that mean you have to go to delaware then hang out
with his dogs get bit hey it's not their fault they're in a high stress environment and and no
one is taking him out of it. It's obviously incorrect for them.
Federali Actual says everyone needs to realize that when you're wrong about things like the
hospital, average people like me will never trust you again.
I've lost trust in everyone but the Timcast crew and post-millennial human events daily.
Their SOP is legit.
Well, I mean, I wouldn't be so extreme like you can't trust them ever again.
But my point is, it's really easy not to get it wrong when you don't pick a side.
Right.
So when this story comes out, we're like, it looks this way, but we're not sure.
So check the evidence and figure out for yourselves.
We're not trying to tell you we know things are true if they're not true.
Like the Burisma stuff, we can I can go through that whole list and show you the videos and
the documents and the sworn statements and tell you what is or isn't.
The hospital thing was like, man, we don't even know.
And then it turns out
hospital wasn't even bombed.
Man.
So, I mean, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
Voice of the People says,
according to Britannica,
treason is giving aid and comfort
to enemies of the government.
If Pelosi waited 71 minutes
to authorize the NG on the 6th,
and the people are enemies
of the government,
wouldn't that be giving Aiden comfort?
Potentially.
The NG? What is that?
National Guard. Oh, the National Guard.
Authorize the National Guard. I see.
Oh, I see what they're trying to argue. Because she told
them to stand down or something? Yes. I don't think she
actually did, though. No, I don't think so. I think that was earlier
the mayor didn't want it.
Grofty says, primetime with Alex
Stein is crazy fun but but but uh yes
the uh um cast brews alex stein coffee is uh nearing completion so it's about to go into
production so it'll be about a month and a half but it's a alex stein's prime time grind two times
caffeine coffee oh nice that totally makes sense yeah his personality. Yes. And it's him like all excited on the bag.
And then I think we're going to be launching Ian's graphene dream.
Oh, nice.
Tell me there's no graphene in the coffee.
No, there's not.
Okay.
Are there mushrooms?
No, nope.
But maybe it should be.
You know, they have that mushroom coffee.
Yeah.
Cordyceps.
Dump it in.
No, no, not cordyceps.
That's not cordyceps.
No, it is.
Yeah, it is.
Yes, it is. I thought this one that was like the one that eats your brains or whatever. Oh, no, not cordyceps. That's not cordyceps. No, it is. Yeah, it is. Yes, it is.
I thought this one
that was like the one
that eats your brains
or whatever.
No, no, no, no.
Cordyceps is the ant brain.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure
the tea they do sell
is cordyceps.
There's a few different.
You can get Lion's Mane.
You can get-
See if you should license
like an Alex Stein
one chip challenge
since they pulled
those things from the shelves.
They pulled them?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Your lawyer's already like,
please don't do this to me. He's like, let's go.
A kid died.
What'd they pull?
What?
Yeah.
Died from what?
The really spicy chips that you eat.
Yep.
But like died from the chemicals on it?
He ate it and then he went home
and then his mom took him to the hospital and he died.
Right.
From eating a chip?
But it was like anaphylactic shock
because he's allergic to the seasoning?
It's insanely spicy.
It is like one single chip in a box that's like
a ridiculous amount of spice. It's like an
online challenge. It's like a thing.
It is artificially spicy.
It's like an anti-fragile Darwin Award
waste of money.
That's fine. Well, no, because right here on
Timcast, Alex Stein ate one.
He ate two, I believe. He was fine,
actually. He was fine.
Yeah, he ate two, I'm pretty sure.
So that child isn't even as strong as Alex Stein.
Alex Stein beat the child.
Well done, Alex.
That is pretty good.
Good phrase, though.
All right, Cold Deluxe Production says,
Don Bacon is going to get primaried over leading the charge against Jordan.
The Republican Party of Nebraska denounced him
and is looking for a competitor to challenge him.
Wow.
Whoa.
That's crazy, man. They're they're mad that kevin mccarthy got ousted so they're like we spite you
we won't vote for jim jordan it's like just grow up dude yeah well he was terrible on funding now
for for israel he was carthy no jim jordan he oh yeah yeah he must have pumped more and there's uh
and and there's a lot of criticism over his position on google and censorship and stuff
like that that's why I'm like,
just, we booted McCarthy out,
we made a statement,
vote for Jim Jordan,
we'll all be disappointed again,
and we'll move on.
We're always going to be disappointed.
Right.
That's the way American politics works.
Right.
Okay, where we at?
No Trump speaker in the house?
Alan Scharer,
the boy who cried wolf
is an excellent tale.
It teaches the value
of not telling the same lie twice.
Oh, snap.
That's a good one. Taylor Swift, speaker
of the House. I mean, I'd vote for
Secretary of State, actually. Yeah, but
like, I'm saying that one day
she just comes out and she's just like,
I hate the two-party system. They're both
corrupt. The establishment is ripping everybody
off. These foreign wars are a waste of
taxpayer dollars.
That'd be so awesome.
When she sits in the box with Travis Kelsey's mom, she's like, have you heard about the
Mises caucus?
Actually.
Yes, nice.
How do you do that?
Nice.
Nice.
Imagine she's on stage and then she's just like, she wraps a song up and then in between
she starts talking about wasted taxpayer dollars, foreign spending.
And then all of a sudden all the middle-aged dads who are there are like, hold on, wait,
wait, wait.
What did she say?
She's like, she's got a big Ron Paul poster in the back.
It starts awkwardly. Prove to me that she
doesn't. When she
made one post about registering people to vote,
she got 35,000 people to sign up
to vote. That is terrifying.
Every single one of them is going to vote Democrat.
What we need to do is
we need someone to just
create satirical videos from her
events with big Ron Paul
banners next to her
on stage. We're doing deep fakes.
Deep fakes. It's happening.
I don't support this, but you like it.
A real video of Taylor Swift's performance, but superimpose
Ron Paul in the background.
Dave Smith. We'll put in some more timely
new people too.
We'll do a bit where she introduces Dave Smith
using AI technology. Yep, I like it.
She'll be like, my future president
Dave Smith. I know he's not running.
She writes in a new song called
End the Fed. We spent all of our time talking about
DeSantis' shoes. I'm sorry.
We have time. Tell me who's running for president for you guys.
Well, we haven't picked yet.
We've got Michael Rechtenwald.
We've got Mike Termott.
We've got Lars Mapstead, Chase Oliver, and Josh Smith.
Are you endorsing someone specifically, or are you not allowed to?
It's not that I'm not allowed to.
I'm trying to hold off on that until it gets a little.
It's not a good form for the chair of the party.
I certainly do have a favorite, and I think he might be coming on the show soon.
I'll say that.
Interesting.
Dave Smith? Is he coming on the show? i'll say that interesting dave smith is he coming on the show i know most to get his list i think you do have i think dave smith with michael malice press secretary was just like so excited beautiful beautiful we're still
we're still trying to get malice to be press secretary maybe either way he said what did
he say one bitcoin per month yep he said one Bitcoin per month. That's not unreasonable right now.
It's like you'd be making like what?
380, 400 a year or something like that.
He did.
It would be it would be really beautiful if anybody wants to sponsor Michael Malice for
press secretary one Bitcoin per month.
Dude, I will sponsor Michael Malice's press secretary.
I don't know if I'm allowed to do that, though.
Is that legal?
It's completely legal.
OK, well, you know, that would be that know. That would be the greatest thing ever.
It would be.
All right.
Well, let's grab some more super chats.
Let's see.
No Name Farmer says,
Pretty sure Chicken Little convinces other barnyard birds to follow him.
Then they're all taken advantage of by a fox looking to benefit from alarmism.
Oh, is that what that story was?
When I looked it up, there are like several translations,
and that's one of the ones that happens.
There's multiple.
Well, there are like several translations and that's one of the ones that happens. Yeah, there's multiple. Well, there you go.
We will grab some more super jets.
Matt says Operation Warhawk is a fresh way to revive the anti-war movement.
Yes.
Angela is leading the charge on this.
Thanks for having her on.
What is that?
We have a plan at the National Libertarian Party to chase the worst warhawks out of office.
We are going to essentially terrorize them
during their primary campaign.
And we're leaving it open to the state affiliates
whether or not they want to engage the GOP
at the state level and talk to them
and potentially engage their opponent
in the primary season.
But are you saying, like,
you're going to be at their events
asking them questions and running ads?
Oh, absolutely.
Jose Vega is not in the LP, but he works with us on all of our anti-war coalition events.
And he disrupted a Rachel Maddow event recently.
It went viral on Twitter.
He's also disrupted AOC's town halls.
Well, now hold on there a minute.
He disrupted.
How did he do that?
By yelling and calling her a corporate shill and a warmonger.
See, I'm not a big fan of that.
I mean, I'm a big fan of him calling her a corporate shill and a a warmonger but in the normal process of asking a question and being handed the microphone
and saying sure he's done both he's done yeah i don't i don't like the just yelling because that
actually i think creates negative i think this is how i think this is how conservatives lose
that they're afraid to disrupt here we are having that same conversation i think it's afraid to push
the window but but that's not it i mean if you walk
into a group of people who are unsuspecting and don't know what's going on and you start yelling
and insulting the person you look like the bad guy so this is like persuasion 101 what you call
someone you are perceived as is like one of the first things you have to understand in doing a
sales pitch i hear you i i respectfully disagree on this one depending on the context i think it
can be done right and it can be done wrong.
The right way to do it would be you stand up to ask a question and then you ask a simple question and have an answer for it.
But that is not the end all be all of Operation Warhawk removal.
That's just a tiny part.
We're going to be doing aggressive billboard campaigns.
We're going to be running libertarian candidates against them.
But the aggressive media attack is in the primary season.
It's meant to really make them feel the pain and try to push,
push a different Republican into office as well.
Oh,
that sounds great.
It'll be fun.
All right.
We'll grab some more super chats.
Isaac Gorski says it was all a lie.
Peace has crumbled and Joe is rewarding them.
Time to stop paying taxes to a corrupt government that serves enemies.
Tee hee.
Well,
look,
man,
I don't think I wouldn't necessarily agree with that Tee hee. Well, look, man, I don't think,
I wouldn't necessarily agree with that.
I say pay your taxes,
but do what you can to get the people you support into office.
And the local level is the most important thing.
Everybody's ignoring their state senators and state reps.
And that's where all the laws are actually being made.
And if you want to figure out how you win your district,
like, oh man, I live in this district
and it leans like Democrat five points.
Like, OK, well, why don't you vote for your local legislators so that way they can drop the maps and then get a more favorable map so that your federal representative more represents your values?
OK, really good, really good comment on that.
My friend Cody Womack is on city council in the city of Lone Star.
He recently fired a government employee and saved the city a ton of money.
Hey, that's great.
It costs, on a small town like that with 5,000 people, if they see this, they'll flip out.
It costs like a couple hundred dollars to get a door knocker to get someone elected.
In cities that are a little bit larger, it might cost you like $5,000.
You can donate $5,000 to a candidate or the Libertarian Party, preferably or whatever, and then you can fire a useless city employee who's raking in a six-figure income.
If you do that over and over again, huge changes in your local community.
A lot of people don't know this too.
A bunch of your local politicians run unopposed.
Yep.
That's the craziest thing.
Especially in Chicago.
I remember looking at the ballots and it was like unopposed, unopposed.
And I'm like, that's crazy.
Somebody wanted to be the cop troller, I guess.
There's a town nearby in West Virginia where they
had to be like, no, you run for mayor.
I don't want to do it anymore. You run.
You can get rid of
employees who literally just sit there and do nothing.
They collect a paycheck. I think this guy was like smoking
weed on the job. Completely
out of control. Outrageous.
Man.
All right. Is that position available now?
Let's see.
What do we have?
Zane Thomas says,
Israel tried giving Gaza concrete for buildings.
Hamas used it for tunnels.
There's videos of Hamas taking water pipes
and using them to make rockets.
And it's no wonder then the rockets misfire,
the propulsion systems break.
Yeah.
Because they're made out of water pipes.
Yeah.
That's crazy stuff, man.
And they put these videos out celebrating it.
Yep.
They want people to see it.
They filmed themselves killing civilians.
It's awful.
Because the argument is they want to show how powerful they are or something.
No, I think they want Joe Biden to give him $100 million.
That's crazy.
Michael Rechtenwald says,
it's not leftists or rightists, but statists versus anti-statists.
I disagree.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Is he going to be on your,
is he going to be a guest ever?
Maybe.
He'll be a great guest.
Probably.
I don't know.
But I've heard this a lot.
There are people like,
the culture war is authoritarian versus libertarian.
It's nationalist versus globalist.
It's statist versus anti-statist.
It's, you know, woke versus unwoke.
And I'm just like,
I don't think so.
He's very good on the culture war, though.
He used to be a Marxist, and he is a bona fide libertarian now.
He's a really interesting story.
The culture war is basically like honest conversation.
Like it's like logic versus disorder.
It is honesty versus dishonesty.
It is reason versus, you know, rage.
Yeah.
You know, so it's not really status.
I mean, the left's positions don't
make any sense it's like an inversion of reality so libertarians can have arguments with the post
liberals and the conservatives and there's an honest conversation that results in something
some kind of move forward the left doesn't have those conversations i think perhaps he's
referencing people who are like you know the the principled anti-war left the dissident left there's still some good people out there but
though yeah you know well i thought max was great i yeah absolutely max blumenthal he was he was a
fantastic max jimmy door all of those guys jimmy door is absolutely wonderful too and uh it was
great it's it's it's great having max on too because while there's a lot of stuff we disagree
with when it comes to palestine like uh uh in israel like uh ph of stuff we disagree with when it comes to Palestine and Israel, like Phil was arguing with him, when it comes to issues of the establishment and war, we're like, we completely agree.
And then I'm like, as far as I'm concerned, bro, like Israel-Palestine stuff is out there.
So if you disagree on that, okay.
If we agree on the corruption inside the United States government, revolving door policies, corporations, et cetera, we're good.
Like, let's figure this stuff out and then we'll figure out who's getting i mean
he'd probably agree when when the libertarians come out and say we don't want to fund any
foreign nations he'd be like done he spoke at a ron paul event recently he spoke at our anti-war
rally earlier in the year too yeah he was mentioning that and he was like it you know
his point was if we disagree on a bunch of things but we agree on on certain things we have we have
to get those things done especially if they're the important things yep absolutely yeah thank you
please and then it's also important for a lot of people didn't like what he was saying and i'm like
dude listen to what he is saying right there was there was one dude who wanted to get a pro hamas
rally canceled i think it's in texas or something yes i saw it on yeah and i'm like no no why i i
need those videos of them supporting terrorism so I can show my family.
We need to know what they're doing.
Well, I've got family members who are like, that's not true.
They're not supporting Hamas.
I'm like, here's a video.
Let's find out.
Let them speak, please.
Yeah.
Let's find out what they're doing.
I would like them to say those things.
Yeah.
Ben Stark says, just when we started thinking right wingers could be antiwar, some Muslims
shoot some rockets and we're right back to wipe them off the map well we'll see what uh donald trump says i have a feeling
donald trump's going to be more interventionist when it comes to israel absolutely he was very
he was very anti-middle middle east intervention in his first uh run the second run he was trying
to get the troops out no new wars i have a feeling when it comes to israel however he's going to
pledge support and financing joe biden has just positioned himself to be the the pro hamas president and so
crazy what a strange stance i couldn't believe when i saw that he flies he flies to israel and
says we're giving palestine 100 million dollars i mean my heart goes out to those people but i
don't know why we're essentially giving murderous warlords a bunch of money i don't know that joe biden knows either i feel like this is a decision it's a bribe it's a bribe
like i don't want to sound like a like a bleeding heart leftist but there's school lunch debt in the
united states we have like va guys who are suicidal the pipes in flint michigan need to be fixed
literally anything except putting money in the middle east please i think everyone says they
did fix flint but um newark pittsburgh is a whole bunch of cities with crumbling infrastructure
how about this 340 the highway into west virginia they are working on a rock a rock slide abatement
yes which has resulted in route 9 getting jammed up so nobody can go south from virginia into west
virginia from maryland into west virginia there's this little dirt road's been torn to shreds and up so nobody can go south from Virginia into West Virginia, from Maryland into West Virginia.
There's this little dirt road that's been torn to shreds and all the locals.
How about we divert some of the money from Hamas into just that one little local project
we've got going on over here?
I just found out about it.
My babysitter, who is a great guy from the Mises Caucus, actually, he was messaging me.
He was like, can I get through the 340?
And I was calling around.
I was like, I guess you can't get through the 340.
So there's from Maryland to West Virginia,
340 is the highway
that goes through across two bridges.
It goes into Virginia
and then West Virginia
and they shut it down for three months.
So you have to go from Maryland
south into Virginia.
Into Loudoun County.
Yeah, into Loudoun County.
And then you got to turn at like,
it's like it comes down to a point
and then you go down
and then back up
to get into West Virginia.
Yeah.
And the traffic's backed up
for like two miles because it's a three three-way intersection and people who are just
trying to go from dc to west virginia are are stuck at this light yeah that's broken it doesn't
work then there's this little dirt road that people who are coming from west virginia try to
cut through and it's it's dirt so now the road is just destroyed on on not even like half the road's
been destroyed completely.
And apparently the locals are revolting.
And I'm just,
I'm bringing this up because I'm sure all of you listening at home have some
kind of similar problem with construction and diversions.
And we're sitting here talking about a hundred million dollars going into
Palestine after Hamas,
the leadership in Gaza just killed a bunch of Israeli civilians.
And we can't get,
we can't get the road fixed.
It's like the pawn shop meme.
Best I can do is $100 million in post-op.
You need your roads fixed?
Best I can do is give...
But also run for local office
or support people who are running for local office
and just tune out of some of this.
Imagine being the people in Hawaii
who are like $100 million to Gaza.
To where?
You meant to Hawaii, right?
No? No? the funny thing about our
our issue is that apparently i heard this from a local politician that uh the people in virginia
voted against it so basically you've got this tri-state so it's all yeah you know inter uh
it's all negotiated yeah and uh when west virginia was like we want to expand the highway going into virginia they
said no so what happens is the four-lane highway bottlenecks down into a two-lane highway and so
now you've got this massive massive traffic jam that's disrupting all of the locals who live there
and they're the ones who voted against expanding the road yeah that sucks man well there you go i
mean i get it like hey we're gonna do a bunch of construction we're gonna expand the highway it's gonna take so much time they're like no no
no don't do it and now that the other highway is like there's gonna be a rock slide it's shut down
now they're screeching yeah dude it's like an hour wait yeah if you wait for the traffic and
you don't take that dirt road then you're gonna wait like yeah you have to like plan your whole
life around yeah yeah like i don't make i don't make time to get out there very much anymore just because of how
much extra traffic there is. It's brutal.
They can't clean up the rock slide?
They have to.
It's a big mountainous...
It's like a mile of mountainside.
Rock face.
They've got to bolt chains
and stuff. It's not like one rock fell and that's
what they're cleaning up. They're preventing it
from falling constantly.
It's a three month project that keeps getting delayed and then finally they're cleaning up. They're preventing it from falling constantly. Oh, I see. Multiple rock falls. It's a three-month project.
It keeps getting delayed, and then finally they're just like, we're shutting the highway down.
That's horrible.
Yep.
So that cuts off West Virginia from Frederick, Maryland, which is a million people or something.
In the total metro.
Major props to Travis, who made it out to help me anyway, watching the baby.
Yeah, it's brutal.
It's brutal.
All right, we'll grab a couple more of these here.
Super chats. But anyway, the point was, can we's brutal. It's brutal. All right, we'll grab a couple more of these here. Super chats.
But anyway, the point was,
can we just get some money
to fix our problems?
Seriously.
Why am I paying so much in taxes
to do this?
Yeah, it makes no sense.
It's just so annoying.
That's where your money's gone.
Alex Langart says,
Tim, it's Cass's belly,
not Cassius' belly.
When did I say Cassius?
I never heard you say Cassius.
Yeah, it's Cassius' belly. I know this because I play Civilization. And I know what Cassius Belli, not Cassius Belli. When did I say Cassius? I never heard you say Cassius. Yeah, it's Cassius Belli.
I know this because I play Civilization.
And I know what Cassius Belli is.
You just got well-actually'd in a Super Chat.
Well, actually.
I didn't know about that.
Yeah, there was like another one that was really weird,
where they were like,
it's these Super Chats where people claim things that I never said.
Where is this one?
Someone said that I claimed if Trump was was kidnapped he would talk his way to
becoming president and i was like i never said that i think i made that joke so sorry about that
you said i don't remember that i was joking i was not actually saying that it was when we have
this hypothetical like you know biden was going to israel and we're like sure why are we doing this
and i made a joke that if trump were kidnapped he's so he has so much charisma he could talk
himself into a different elected position it was a joke and it was not that's that's the libertarian autism
can't make jokes don't get jokes sorry humor does not read humor is uh disallowed under the
current administration understood it's not not a legal thing to do i forgot that part of the first
amendment oh it was funny when i read that one super chat from uh from alan about the boy who
cried wolf,
he literally wrote in parentheses,
it's pronounced shower,
and I said shower.
Oh.
Because I read your name
before I read what you actually wrote.
That's really funny.
But shout out.
Get your name right now.
It's pronounced shower.
All right.
We'll grab one more super chat.
Here we go.
That's a good one.
Michael A. says, Tim, there is literally nothing wrong with being short. Here we go. That's a good one. Michael A. says,
Tim, there is literally nothing wrong with being short.
I completely agree.
Tell that to Ron DeSantis.
I agree too.
You need to talk to him.
I know.
Can somebody give me the guy's number?
I can help this guy see the light.
One confident short man to another.
You just gotta see.
Early on, you have to develop a personality
to make up for the fact that you're not tall.
That's a tall order.
Final thoughts.
I will say this.
When I when I worked for nonprofits, there were three types of top fundraisers, three types.
There were two different types of top male fundraisers and one type of top female fundraiser.
The OK, so I've asked a lot.
So a lot of viewers probably know the answer.
But you go on the street and you wave to people you ask them for money
what characteristic of men do you think led to them having lots of signups and donations
anybody they were tall i knew you guys guys who were over six feet always came back with loads
of cash and and and sign up forms crazy uh the second characteristic among
men was that they were fast talkers yep and the the trope of the car salesman i knew a guy who
was five five but he talked like ben shapiro and he'd come back load of cash listen yeah i tell
you that i'm just and then he he gets it their brain just shuts off and they say just take the money yeah yeah
hypnotizing yeah so it's like powerful charisma with a short guy or a tall guy and and the tall
guys often sounded really dumb like look you know i'm just i think uh you should help us out you
know and they're like and you are so tall i believe you and also men 80 of the signups men
got were from women and And for women, men.
Now, what was the one characteristic among women that resulted in the most signups?
Wearing a dress or a skirt?
Nope.
Attractiveness?
Close.
Height?
Are you talking about height now?
Nope.
So, top fundraiser, female, one characteristic that led to them.
I would say, not led to, but when you would see a top fundraising female,
they typically shared one characteristic.
Who's going to say it?
I mean,
you know the answer, right?
No.
No one knows the answer.
It's obvious.
It's the most obvious
thing in the world.
There's a whole restaurant
industry based on this.
I know,
that's what I'm saying.
Big boobs.
Yeah, it's boobs.
When I worked at
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It's like everyone in chat got it.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I did.
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