Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #887 GOP DROPS PROOF Biden Took $200k DIRECTLY From Shady Business Deals w/Lauren Witzke

Episode Date: October 21, 2023

Tim, Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial), Carter, & Serge join Lauren Witzke to discuss new evidence implicating Joe Biden directly in shady business deals, Fox News filing a copyright strike against Timcast, a judge ruling Alex Jones cannot receive bankruptcy protection, & a judge fining Trump for retroactively violating his gag order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oh, it's Friday night. There's so much going on. Jim Jordan was stabbed in the back in a secret ballot. They voted him out. So, a lot of interesting things happening. There's still no Speaker of the House. We'll see what happens there. Joe Biden cashed a $200,000 check from his brother, which directly links him to the shady business dealings of his family.

Oh, yeah. Well, he said he wasn't involved or any of that, but now we have what appears to be, or what many people are alleging is money laundering. Marjorie Taylor Greene herself actually says that this is money that was laundered. And in very big news, ladies and gentlemen, Fox News has filed a copyright strike against us. Now, here's what you need to understand. When someone infringes your copyright and you file a claim against them, You get two options, a takedown or a strike.

You can go and say, I want this removed. It violates our copyright. Or you can say, I want them to receive a hard strike for for stealing my content. Fox gave us a hard strike, I believe. And they've also done this to David Pakman a couple of weeks ago, two weeks ago. Now, David Pakman had his video hit by a copyright strike. I believe this is an egregious abuse of the system. I believe that what we did was absolutely fair use in any logical respect. And the idea that Fox News thinks that they should

have a monopoly on people trying to be the president, more importantly, our fact checking and commenting on what these individuals are saying in real time, they're arguing no one should be allowed to do that. Fox News crossed the line. Now, with this strike, there is no immediate impact to our channel. Everything's fine. However, they're basically threatening us. If we do this again, if we dare try to fact check any of the republican candidates the second strike has serious implications and would shut this show down on youtube for three months so we'll talk more about that but this is this is a major development which i believe is is potential uh has a potential to go to the supreme court we'll talk all about that

because that's probably going to be a that this is huge story as we enter 2024. This is going to be a have a massive impact on how special interests can manipulate the election by selectively choosing who can and can't comment on and fact check presidential debates. We'll get into all that before we get started. My friends head over to kind of Kenny O. Wood. Sorry, I pronounced it wrong. Kineowood.com. One of our members has this excellent wood company, whatever you want to call it. Custom wood designs. They got charcuterie boards. Really, really cool. Custom furniture that you can call in and commission. Look how beautiful these hard maple end grain butcher block is. If you want to support our members, then go to kineowood.com. The link is in the description below

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And as members, we periodically shout out our members. So if you want to be a member, then support our work directly at TimCast.com. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Lauren Witzke. Hello, hello. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor. Who are you? What do you do? My name is Lauren Witzke. I am currently the executive producer for the Stu Peters Network. I was the Republican nominee for United States Senate back in 2020, and I'm the producer

behind the movie Died Suddenly and Watch the Water. Right on. Thanks for hanging out. Should be fun. We got Carter Banks hanging out. What's up, guys? That's it. He's a music producer here at TimCast.com. Music producer here at TimCast. Doing stuff with Trash House. So Carter is popping in on

Fridays because of our top secret music project. No, because we actually, I don't know if, we don't have a camera set up for that right now, do we? A couple, actually. But I mean, is it on? Is it set up? Yeah, they're ready to go. We're rolling. Can you switch to it?

Do you want me to do it now? Yes. Right, so we're actually, oh, wow, that looks amazing. We've got three going, ready to go. Yeah, we're actually, we've had this music set up for a long time. We've never set it up. But now the plan is Fridays, we're actually going to start having music. That would be pretty sweet.

Look at that. Musical guests. We're moving along. Yep. So we're going to have a music Friday nights. We did this a while ago and it was more just like we would just jam on acoustic. But now the idea is when we can, if we can, we'll have musical guests. So we're hoping that Friday we'll get, there's a lot of really awesome,

popular, prominent musicians who are starting to get very political. And so we're looking forward to having them come and hang out with us. Obviously, Phil Labonte is on the show. He's currently out of town working on his new album, I believe. But we're hoping to have him and whoever else

come and play some songs for us. And it's gonna be really awesome. So yeah, we got Libby hanging out. Hey, I'm back. I'm Libby Emmons with the post-millennial and human events filling in for ian yet again who is ian's on vacation who is on vacation lucky dog what happened was he messaged me saying that he's doing um what is that what is that training they're doing where they like run through the woods with guns or something that sounds sounds kind of fun. Yeah, tactical. No, he's doing some kind of tactical training with Luke. And so he hits me up and he's like,

this is amazing. And he's at the gym with Luke. Yeah, I saw that. And I'm like, Ian started working out and he's turning into a conservative bro. That's amazing. He's praying to Jesus. He's doing gun training.

He's exercising. He's praying to Jesus? He said that on the show that he prayed to Jesus for the first time. That's true. Wow. Yeah, he did. So working out can make you Christian.

That's great news. Working out makes you conservative. I love it. Also, while he's out of town on his spiritual quest, Libby's here. We got Serge pressing the buttons. Yeah, I am here. I'm excited to do this music stuff too. It'll be fun, man. Yeah, that's very cool. I'm also covering for Kellen

on Fridays now. Alright, here we go. From the post-millennial, Joe Biden cashed $200,000 check from brother James' business deal, House investigators reveal. Now, the check says loan repayment, which is funny, because how do you track the record of when was a loan given? Was it even a loan? So there's a lot to break down before we even read any of this. I'll just say very simply what this shows is this check, you know, it can be completely on the level. Maybe maybe just gave his brother a loan, right?

That's all it was. OK, here, brother, here's money for you. It shows that Joe is directly involved in the finances and the business dealings that his brother's engaged in. This is his brother going, James going to Joe and saying, I need a loan for insert project. And Joe saying, you got it, which makes Joe the financier of these things. That is the best case scenario for Joe.

That all he did is help finance his brother's business dealings or something, a component of what his brother's involved in. You can make the argument, oh, maybe it's personal. No, I don't accept that. Because when Donald Trump tried to get the G7 at Trump Doral, arguing that he would do it at cost with no profit,

everyone on the left, and even me, we all said, no, it's still a direct payment which benefits Trump's companies. This right here is still a direct payment benefiting his brother who is engaged in these shady business dealings. I think at the bare minimum shows his brothers involved. Now, the worst case scenario, of course, is Joe's getting paid off. Now, when you look at the hard evidence and you can see 10% for the big guy and all that, I think it is clear now you connect the dots. This is circumstantial evidence that when they said 10% for the big guy, when they were talking about paying Joe Biden a loan repayment, could this be what Hunter was talking about when he said his dad takes half his salary? Could this be the fee paid to Joe, a loan for his name? Now, what actually is pointed out in the article is that the reason.

So what happens is AmeriCorps gives James Biden a loan. James then that day writes a $200,000 check to Joe, which looks like money laundering. Yeah. And it says loan repayment on the check, which is there's no way to know as yet if Biden had actually given his brother a loan. So Comer, James Comer wants to know whether Biden has the documents to prove that he had lent $200,000 to his brother, whether he had similar arrangements with other family members. And Marjorie Taylor Greene said exactly

what you said, Carter, that it's a classic example of money laundering. I mean, yeah, I didn't want to overstep with that, but it looks exactly like that. Well, if, and it's so overt. I mean, come on. Look, it might not be. But when default like, OK, AmeriCorps was failing and apparently out of business, but still had money in the coffers, writes a check for two hundred thousand dollars to James, who then instantly that day writes two hundred thousand dollars for Biden. It looks like AmeriCorps is giving Biden money.

Yes, it sure does look like that. And also, the other thing too, is if it's not a loan repayment, we have the situation where Donald Trump is being tried in New York by Alvin Bragg on what is it like 37 counts of falsification of business records. So could this perhaps be if, if Biden didn't give his brother a loan, then this is the falsification of a business record.

Did it go down? That's a good point. Did it go down in his taxes as a loan repayment how has this been quantified what are his booking bookkeeping records looking like if trump is being brought up on these charges um it's a civil suit against trump but basically i was i saw this i started laughing i'm like oh so everything they accused trump of doing they did right and they said well that was a that was a criminal that's a criminal case the alvin bragg one is criminal oh i mean in in the civil case in new york where they're arguing he falsified business Trump of doing they did. Right. And they said, well, that was a that was a criminal. That's a criminal case. The Alvin Bragg one is criminal. Oh, I mean, in the civil case in New York where they're arguing he falsified business records. Yeah, that Alvin Bragg one.

That's that's isn't that criminal? No, it's civil suit. It's I don't know if it's the Letitia James in New York. That's a civil suit. Right. The Alvin Bragg. That's the one that I want to put in business. Right.

But what I'm saying is the suit against Trump right now by Letitia James is a lawsuit to determine whether Trump falsified business records. Right. And Alvin Bragg has a similar case. Yeah. But that one was about Stormy Daniels, wasn't it? Yeah. It was about the money that Trump paid to Michael Cohen and then Cohen paid money to Stormy Daniels.

So this is very much like that one. And this is very much like that one. Oh, lock him up. For real. Lock him up. Joe's got to go. They make the rules, not us. And we are humble followers of those laws so man you know it really breaks my

heart to say this but we're gonna have to arrest joe biden and you know he's gonna have to go to jail well i would love to see the department of justice actually do that let's get the fbi involved they should really start digging in correct the only way isn't that what's up now like raid his house okay let's go for it do you Do you want to see Joe Biden get arrested right now for this? Because I can tell you. No, no, I can tell you exactly how you can see it. If you want to see Joe Biden, there is one way that you can see him right now. Get arrested for this. It's called mid journey. You just type in the Joe Biden gets arrested. That's the only way you're ever going to see citizens arrest in Georgia or something like that.

Nope. Just AI generated images, and then you can fantasize and pretend like the world is actually safe and there's accountability. But other than that, have fun. That's like how my mom used to always watch The West Wing. She was just obsessed with it. She was like, this is how I just fantasize reality. Oh, that's so sad. I know.

The reality of the internal workings of the white house is probably so right now with biden is probably so dark like they found what did they find they found crack right or yeah i was just thinking about that what cocaine in the in the white house right somewhere i grew up in delaware so i grew up with the biden like dynasty ruling over my state for years and years and And it's like well known. It's just like kind of public knowledge that they're like super corrupt. The Bidens run everything. You can't get past anything. And their kids are a mess, too. Like was that the was that the story on Beau Biden as well? So Beau Biden was like the beloved. Right. You know and but also he had a lot of backdoor stuff going on between like

northern delaware and southern delaware and like paying off politicians for bridges and road repairs and stuff like that so there was a lot of like even corruption back then i wouldn't say he was a man of character um based on what i know of him but the biden's like i saw what he did to the biden's did to my state it's almost unlivable now in some parts and yeah and i'm watching him do it to america as soon as he was elected president i said oh boy not good so no this interesting uh michael super chatted saying loan repayment in the memo was was uh not written by the same person oh you think well i don't know about that i mean the super chatted saying loan repayment in the memo was not written by the same person. Oh, you think?

Well, I don't know about that. I mean, the super chatter did. But I've got the picture right here. So if you take a look, the argument is that the writing for 200,000 and zero, you know, 100 and loan repayment are different. I don't know. What do you guys think? I think they look they look the same to me, but I certainly am no handwriting expert. What?

I was blasting a stink bug. I don't like those guys. You don't like them? They're funny. I know. They just smell bad. And they clap. I know.

They're great. There's one hanging out in my kitchen at home right now, actually. But yeah, it doesn't look the same to me. Yeah, the T's. It looks pretty different. The lowercase T's kind of look different. Do they? Where's their lowercase t?

At the very end in loan repayment and then... It looks like there's a capital T in thousand. I don't know. I mean, I'm not a handwriting expert, but they said that there are more angles. What did they say? The writing has more of an angle. I can see that actually the repayment

is written with a slight angle to the right meaning at the very least if they wrote 200,000 they shifted the check as they wrote again giving it a rightward angle angle to their handwriting but but anyway if that were true and i'm sure there are handwriting experts who can either just bunk or debunk it then um the the implication made here, and I don't know if that has any merit, the implication is that when Joe received the check, he wrote loan repayment on it himself. Right. Or someone else did. Someone just wanted to make sure that they literally dotted their I's and cut their

This is not a payment. It's a repayment. It's a loan repayment. Maybe it just said loan payment. You know, I don't think we're going to get anything from this no you know uh yeah they're going to say look it's a brother lent his money his brother some money that's all it is i think that a lot of this stuff i mean i think that what keeps happening is that the house gop has the goods on joe biden and it's just not going to go anywhere. No matter how much,

no matter, even though they have the majority, they don't really have any power at this point in Congress. The Democrats have a lot of power to, you know, they went along with Matt Gaetz, you know, in the ousting of McCarthy, whether you like that or not, know that they did that um that was a the democrats had all the power there over the majority of the gop which was my main concern about the ousting of mccarthy was like it just sort of gives up the gop power what what was there well even when they didn't have that much anyway yeah i mean that's sort of the thing we don't use it we don't wield our political power ever we're well known for being like the losers because they can't raise money if they're like if they're winning.

You know what I'm saying? That's the thing. When you say we, it's like, no, no, no, no. Like the neocon shill establishment Republicans are not us or not you. There isn't they don't wield their power against you. Right. So when everyone's like, why won't the Republicans do anything? No, no, no.

You don't understand. They're using all of their might and power to crush you the person who voted for them well they're still just doing that uniparty thing and that's why it's the moderates now who are like in a position to make deals with democrats it's pretty gross it's pretty gross but that's the concern is that we're not going to get anything out of this no matter how many smoking guns they bring no matter how many yeah like matter how much direct evidence of bribery there is. We're not going to see accountability from the Biden family. Plus, Biden's going to be out. I don't think any of us think that he's actually going to be president

for the next term. Do you think they're going to run somebody else? I don't know. I just don't see how he could possibly serve another four years. He can barely even like. I saw a video of him the other day and I didn't even, it was very weird. It looked like a robot from Disney World kind of. Well, he does the old man dementia shuffle.

Very slow. And like the, it's the shuffle. It's the like, I'm afraid to fall down thing. Right. You have his staff saying outright that part of their job is to make sure that he doesn't fall down. Yeah. We see him fall down anyways.

Oh man. It's like, we were talking the other night about when he does give speeches, when he gives big speeches, it's like, it almost seems like he's a different man than when he's just off the cuff. He doesn't seem all there. He shakes hands with the air it's very bizarre to see this man um who's so clearly losing losing it to old age he's not really making any of the decisions right it's probably the biden administrator the obama administration

like kind of pulling the strings making the decision they just need a face guy and they haven't picked anybody else yet to run they haven't i mean newsom is making some noise he was he um he said he was gonna go travel around to israel you know which is like a a face opportunity hokal did that as well from new york she went there i think she said she went there the day before biden did um but I just don't see I don't see how he could possibly do it. So, I mean, if he's just going to be propped up, if it's going to be like, you know, weekend at Bernie's, the White House. Don't you think the American people are going to be aware of that? Like, why would we? Well, I've talked to a few Democrats, too, that even say that he's too old.

Like they just like, man, I think he needs to retire. He's getting too old. But the concern is Kamala Harris is second in line. So and she is the most disliked candidate, most disliked politician probably in American history. Like they had no reason to choose her to run. Like she was in a deep blue state of california and they still put her with joe biden for the sake i guess of diversity however she is very unliked very unliked and it just didn't make any sense i wonder if they're going to switch out a vp for him you know that

would be more likely what i think i think they're going to try and run him but make a really likable vice president how can that way people feel? Yeah, I don't know you could do that. Confident voting. How would they swap him out? Like, oh, well, Biden gets too old. Like, can't you switch out your vice presidential candidate in the next election? I don't know, but wouldn't that be an issue in and of itself? If you put, like, Gavin Newsom or something running as VP with Biden,

people would vote for that. Democrats would vote for that. She would, like, for her to go along with that, she would need some exit strategy that gives her a better position as president. And I feel like she'd have to make that decision by herself to be like, you know, I want to spend more time with my family, even though she barely come up with something. Yeah. You know, some kind of payout or something to salvage her dignity or reputation but that's the thing i don't think that uh democrats are really confident in a joe biden presidency with kamala being the one i was even concerned when they were talking about impeaching biden because i don't want kamala's gonna be 10

times worse like she oh she's terrible i mean she's nuts yeah yeah she's unburdened by what might have been well let's let's let's talk's talk about the big story that's affecting us directly. We have this from my Twitter account. And that's it. Fox News filed a copyright strike on our GOP debate commentary, taking the whole episode down. And I will say immediately, as we begin the segment, I believe that what we did was absolutely fair use. We were, first of all, this is the public has a right to know what's going on with these debates. It is newsworthy what these individuals are

saying. We were commenting directly on what was being said and the show itself. It was direct commentary on this. Combine those things and I think that immediately this is a matter of our democracy, as they like to say, right? So the argument would be that Fox News can host presidential candidates who can say things that only they are allowed to filter to the American public and no one else is allowed to fact check what they are saying. Now, their argument is you can fact check them, but you can't just show what they've said in in real time. I reject that. That would mean that everyone has to watch only their interpretation and it creates a circumstance in which they can selectively choose to take down only specific commentary. It would be impossible to take down everyone

who's providing commentary, which means there will always be the argument that, oh, but, you know, they they infringe on our copyrights. We took them down. It's OK. OK, hold on. The guy critical of candidate one was taken down, but the guy critical of candidate two was not. Oh, we must have missed it. That creates a loophole that will require that you actually can't do anything about

to be completely honest. I think this precedent can't stand because right now, as it stands, I can't do anything about it, to be completely honest. I think this precedent can't stand because right now as it stands, I can't sue Fox News simply for filing a claim on YouTube. We can do a counterclaim and have their claim pushed back. They can then within 10 days file a lawsuit. Otherwise, YouTube restores our video. They then have to sue us. But if this is allowed to stand, what happens is you have Democrat and Republican. But if this is allowed to stand, what happens is you have Democrat and Republican. The Democrats run criticism of the GOP. And let's say Democrat personalities and Republican personalities are commenting and criticizing. And then large institution, whoever it may be, can choose to only strike certain

channels. The other, the people who are not given a strike can't sue. And the people who are given a strike don't have standing in court to argue. Oh, but look, they're not being taken down because the argument is, okay, well, we'll go take them, take them, take them down next. You would have that argument. You could say they're doing this selectively, but what, what, what the situation that creates is the only person with the power is the institution controlling the debates. No one can fact check or comment on it and they can control who's allowed to fact check and comment on it. That's an impossibility.

But I've got more news here to add to this. David Pakman, nine days ago, had announced the same thing. And I was unaware of this. And here you can see the copyright strike he received on his channel. Let me remove the CC, the closed captions the cc the closed captions you can see that uh it no way does it affect his ability to stream as of right now fox media llc october 6 filed a strike against them i can say this now i'm not going to reveal uh any private any what here's what i can say several other uh individuals who are providing commentary on the debates also received strikes and had their

commentary taken down. It's hard to know when we started doing a cursory search of other channels because the videos aren't there. So we don't know if they did or didn't. I don't track what everybody does. But knowing that David did, I immediately saw this video when I started doing my search of this. And David also received a strike. So we'll see what happens over the next week or so. I don't know. I would be shocked if Fox News actually tries to pursue lawsuits against a combined, you know, 50 million subscribers across the board

arguing that they are the only ones allowed to have commentary. I will further add, in my view, and probably if there was going to be a suit, you know, my lawyers would be like, stop saying all this stuff. I don't care. This is important. The show that we did is not even a substitute for what Fox was providing. No, you could not even hear the debate half the time because we are just insulting politicians. If you want to actually just listen to the words of the politicians, you go, you go watch the debate on Fox news. If you want to hear us yell at them and insult them,

you come here, but you're not even hearing at the time what they were saying. So I don't even think that argument stands. Fox news is deciding to go to war against some of the biggest political commentators in the world right now. I can't they i think this is i think this is an abuse of the system and uh i think they lose on this on this one this is insane and this is why you know initially we didn't even want to do uh the coverage of it because it's stupid because the lesser known republican candidates trump is going to win and so we decided to simply because uh you know ultimately there's there's several things. One, people really wanted to hear us fact check and comment on what they were saying.

And so we they're like, look, they didn't care what what was being shown in the debate. They cared what we were, how we were responding, how essentially we want to debate the presidential candidates. If Fox News has their way, there will be no public debate on our presidential candidates. And I think that's absurd. It's like a reaction video too. I can respect to a certain degree an argument made by Fox, but I think it's a bad argument that loses

because in order for us to have our institutions, our constitutional republic with democratic institutions, there must be a robust public debate on our political candidates. And they do not have the argument that they own the monopoly on the political debate. If their show was simply truckers arguing truck driving, totally get it. But these people want to be president.

And Fox is telling me I have no right to fact check them in real time. No way. Yeah, it's no, go ahead. No, they they even went to the extent where you said that they had a choice where they could just take the video down or actually like punish you with a strike. And they chose to punish you with a strike. So that just kind of goes to show that it was, you know, kind of a weaponized attempt to take a stab at Tim Pool. Well, it's not just me. I mean, there's a bunch of it's a a stab at Tim Pool from. Well, it's not just me.

I mean, there's a bunch of it's a bunch of people who got strikes. They went after they're going after everybody's my understanding. Well, I shouldn't say everybody. They've gone after a lot of people. I do have some questions because I can say they didn't go after everyone just yet. So I say just yet. But that's the point. If Fox News News is selectively taking down only some, then the argument would be they are creating an environment where any institution that is hosting a debate can choose who's allowed to comment on

the debate. Well, we can't have that. There's there's there's no functioning democratic election if large institutions are like, we're going to let these seven people do it. I mean, I mean, I'll put it this way. Fox could quite literally be like oh all of those uh commentators we give them a license those ones we take down and it's and it's and it's arbitrary it effectively just silos and manipulates and controls public discourse i think this is a gross infringement an egregious abuse of the system but i also think i think if they pursue a lawsuit it goes to the supreme court i think they lose i also think that it doesn't make any sense for fox to be able to have a proprietary um broadcast there should be anyone who wants to broadcast the

debate should be allowed in to broadcast the debate that is in the public interest it's a it's like you were saying these are people who want to be president. Now, none of them are going to be president, but they certainly, you know, but they're certainly out there trying to do this. And any American should have the ability to see that. And the fact that Fox News is on cable and a lot of arguments they can make about who they allow to stream and things like that, don't care. My argument is they want to create a world where they are the funnel of information on public discourse. So we have these things called anti-SLAPP laws. SLAPP means Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation. There are many states, probably half the country, where if I said, David is a you know leftist communist or whatever insult you know insult him in some way then he can't sue me for several reasons it's not just the higher standards right you could actually because david packman is a public figure accuse him of doing a backflip and landing in the mud and And let's, let's argue that for some reason,

it's disparaging. I'm trying, I'm not trying to disparage that, David. I'm just doing an example because we pulled this channel up. Anti-slap laws basically shut the lawsuit down instantly, arguing that my accusations against them are public participation, that we are public figures having a debate in public and we are allowed to. And so it's you you have what's called uh times v sullivan that's where if i said someone is a uh uh if i said carter banks kicked a dog he can't sue me it's crazy because the the the uh actual malice standard based on the precedent of what's called time v sullivan he would have to prove i intentionally lied knowing beforehand he did not kick a dog which is almost impossible because you'd have to get past summary dismiss summary judgment get to discovery nowhere to

find the statements and hope they are let's say i know for a fact that carter behind the scenes was going i'm gonna lie about tim pool and claim he kicked a dog and then i'm like i know he did it i heard him say it can you prove it no but he said it too bad you're out now you get that that's that's that's times v solovin most people are familiar with that that's how the left is able to call everyone nazis and white supremacists they call laura loomer a white nationalist over jimmy kimmel just did i mean that may be defamation per se i think she should sue because she doesn't need to prove damages in that case right defamation per se is when you're accusing someone of something so egregious that it in and of itself is damaging.

Anti-SLAPP would then be if I claim Jimmy Kibble kicked a dog and he sued me over that, then it probably gets thrown out instantly over anti-SLAPP. There are a lot of states that are just like, nope, you can't. He's talking about public stuff that's going on. When I look at this, I see something very similar. I think this needs to be handled by the supreme court it must be and the reason for it is the the era of the ubiquitous live stream is new it has not yet been adjudicated it has not yet gone to the courts we need to know where the supreme court stands on our right to debate the political candidates in real time when it when it when a

candidate stands on stage and says, when I was governor, I did this. And when I'm president, I'll do that. And we go, whoa, whoa, whoa. He didn't do that when he was governor. If there is no public debate allowed, then only wealthy institutions are allowed to to to control who's who's being president. It destroys public participation in debates. So that's where I stand. Rant over, I guess. But we will have some developments in the next week or so as to what happens. And I think if Fox News does decide to take this to court,

here's what I ultimately think. I think Fox News will not. I think they're going to cave. They're going to back down and they're going to accept it because if Fox News does sue, this will go to the Supreme Court and they will lose. And then it becomes precedent in law

and they'll never have a leg to stand in again. The best thing for- I think that needs to happen, frankly. I think it needs to be at the Supreme Court level. So there's only two ways that can happen. The first is that Fox News files a full-fledged lawsuit against the people who commented. I'm willing to bet they won't do it because they know it opens the door to defeat and it opens the door to them never having any ability to make an argument on proprietary

rights again. The other way would be if they overstep their bounds and file multiple strikes against a single individual, giving them damages and standing to a massive degree, which results in a lawsuit being filed against them. Right. In which case they it goes to SCOTUS. They lose. That whole process could take a couple of years, but Fox will be destroyed by it. And they're already not doing so great after the Dominion lawsuit. No.

Right. Right. They're there. The best thing for Fox to do is certainly not this i would i would argue the best the smartest thing fox could do was actually try and negotiate with anyone who wants to do any kind of commentary some some some like rights or distribution uh or some monetization package or almost like a press pass right i was just thinking that like e-press pass yeah i think i think fox should make the art so if if this goes to scotus i think they lose outright we have a

right to to uh call out politicians who are trying to be president and they fox news should not have the the unilateral control over that it's one thing if the argument was we should have public cameras in those debates and fox news shouldn't be allowed to have proprietary stream of these things. I don't know about that. My argument is our show was not a substitute. We were talking over the politicians half the time. You couldn't you could barely hear what they were saying. Right. We didn't even have the stream on their channel the whole time.

And we were actively fact checking and commenting. I think they lose that one. The smartest move they could make right now would be to go to all the channels and say, how about you give us ad rights when you do it? That way we don't get into a lawsuit. Right. If they go this route, the first strike received by David, by me and many others who have gotten strikes has no impact whatsoever on the channel.

The second strike takes you off the air for 90 days. We're talking between all these channels. I don't know what 50 to 100 million dollars in potential damages. Yeah, that's a lot of damage. I don't know if Fox News wants to handle another one all these channels. I don't know what, 50 to 100 million dollars in potential damages. Yeah, that's a lot of damages. I don't know if Fox News wants to handle another one of these lawsuits. And I don't know if they can handle a lawsuit from 15 multimillionaire industry network individuals. I mean, this is an insane thing they're trying to do right now.

I think also there's like a free speech consideration. Right. That's so important. You know, we have the right to comment and discuss those who are running for president. And we certainly have the right to do that in real time. Right. We were talking about the bar situation. Right.

I was going to mention that. You have like the debate on at a bar and people come buy drinks and they watch it. And they do. They do that. Right. So they're making money from the debates. You can't really. I mean, that would be.

This is why I think this would need to go to SCOTUS. This is a federal level issue. During the debates, I can tell you definitively, and everybody knows, bars and other venues have the debate on. You go to a bar, the news is playing. Now, their argument is, yes, but we buy cable, you know, and so we can play these things on our TVs. Sure. But what they're doing now is I didn't charge any money for anyone to come and watch the show. The show was just us commenting on the news. So that means all of these venues that are playing the debate and talking to people

about it, they're going to argue that's copyright infringement. Right. Or like, you know, when you show movies, you're not supposed to show movies publicly. And they always put that thing at the beginning. This is not for public distribution. But that's totally different because that is an entertainment. That is an entertainment that was created by whatever, you know, studio or entity makes the entertainment. A presidential debate is not an entertainment. It's a public service.

It's something that voters, in a lot of ways, voters demand because we want to know what our wannabe elected leaders- Because they're the voters. They're the voters. We want to know what they want to do to our country. We want to know what they have to say about the state of the nation and what

should be happening. And I think that that should get out to as many people as possible as want to see it. Fox News had issued a memo saying that they would go after anybody who did this. And we know that. And I will say it plainly here. We have asserted since the beginning they have no right to make this claim. It is fair use what people need to understand is fair use is copyright infringement but it has an exemption an exception in the law so typically what happens because i've dealt with this quite a bit is that um when you infringe on someone so when you when you engage in what you believe is fair use you have infringed a copyright the argument argument is then, will a judge agree that this is in the public interest

in some way? And we know that the typical grounds for fair use, they're not absolute. So one thing people often like to say is the length of the content. Maybe, but not always. Sargon of Akkad, Carl Benjamin,

famously uploaded a clip from akilah hughes without comment without the video was just a rip of her video re-uploaded she made the argument it was infringement because he didn't transform it he didn't comment on it he didn't do anything carl said you are incorrect the title of the video itself was commentary and thus it is fair use. She sued him. Not only did she lose, she lost the subsequent filing where she had to pay him. I think it was $100,000 pounds. Was it? No, no, no.

It was dollars. It was in the United States. Oh, really? Yeah, it was. She sued him in the United States. Oh, okay. And Carl won because uploading. I don't know if it was the entirety of the video i think it

was several minutes i think it was like five minutes and it was just a rip from her channel quoted the video and she says that's not fair use it was simply because he put a title that said like it was titled something like the absolute mental state of the left or something like this that's all it took i would the the issue here a lot of people like these arguments we're talking about people who want to be president who are live real time lying misrepresenting facts and saying things that need to be fact-checked by journalists and this is the modern era news is presented in this format it is no longer a world where you know we didn't sneak a camera into fox news and then and broadcast it that's that's essentially their argument is predicated upon an old school era where someone recaptures their stream and reposts it.

Whereas we were actually engaging in public discourse. That's something that's going on in a lot of law right now. Like we just saw this Douglas Mackey case. Yes. Ricky, Ricky Vaughn from 2016, and he had posted memes leading up to the 2016 election, joking around that Hillary Clinton voters should text their vote for Hillary Clinton. And the joke, of course, it's basically a political cartoon, right? Which is a point that Jack Posobiec and Gavin Wax were making the other day on Jack's show.

But that's essentially what it is. It's a political cartoon and the idea is that um he was he was making the joke that hillary clinton voters aren't smart enough to know whether or not they could vote by text message now of course as it turns out in the trial yeah in the trial against him uh it turned out that the department of Justice could not prove that anyone was harmed at all by this joke. No one voted by text because as a result of this meme that he posted. Yet the Department of Justice and the FBI investigated the meme, which was like vote for Hillary Clinton by text. You know, it was like it was like vote from home text here. Right, right, right. And it was like and so the Department of Justice and the FBI, the FBI investigated the Department of Justice alleged that it was an ad, not a meme, not a joke.

And do you remember the Democrat woman who did the same thing? Yeah, the Democrat woman did the same thing. We documented that every time we've covered it at Postmillennial. We document and a Democrat did the exact same thing, saying that Trump voters should vote by text message. That woman was not prosecuted. She was not investigated by the FBI. Douglas Mackey was. He was convicted seven months. There it is. We have this from the Postmillennial. She said, hey, Trump supporters, skip poll lines at election 2016 and text in your vote. Text votes are legit or vote tomorrow on Super Wednesday.

So text votes are legit should have put her in criminal territory relative to what this guy did and there's his too this one just says avoid the line vote from home text hillary i'm with her go hillary and it's a meme it's a joke it's and and the funny thing is this is 2020 uh when when did when did he post that that was uh that was 2016 but it was it was it after hers uh i don't know i don't know she said text votes are legit right i suppose the argument is she didn't include a number to call or did she because it's a video well there's a video but the video was taken down which is why we have that which is why we just have a her screenshot um but yeah so he posted this the department of justice claimed that it was an ad instead and didn't acknowledge

that it was a meme accused him of conspiracy against rights which is of course what donald trump is being accused of by the doj right now over jan 6th. He was convicted of essentially election interference and he's supposed to spend seven months in prison over this. We actually got a message from a fact checker today being like, can you provide any evidence for your claim that he's being sentenced to seven months in prison over a meme? And it's like, why, yes,

we can provide all of the documentation that we have as well as the department of justice right press release about the conviction in the first place that says he posted this ad and it was investigated by the fbi um it's absolutely insane but it's another first rights issue uh first amendment rights issue and we have had so many of these recently we see in the cases against donald Trump where he's being slapped with gag orders. He's not allowed to speak publicly about various elements of the case. And it's basically because the prosecutors don't like getting made fun of on Truth Social.

That's the issue. They don't like that. They feel, you know, they feel insulted. When did they actually file this? Because it was from the 2016 election. It was from the 2016 election. It was from the 2016 election. It's a meme about it. But does it say they didn't even file a complaint until 2021?

So they waited until after 2020 to go after him, like after the whole election stuff that went on with Trump for something. It didn't even affect the 2016 election. They punished him for the 22 or the 2020 election, which is interesting, which is dangerous too, which means they're hunting people down from the old school Trump era. People that helped Trump get elected the first time they're going after them.

Even now. It's also like out of pardon territory. Yeah. Just, just in case. Yep. Yeah. It was USA today that reached out to us,

but what, um, let's see, when did they do it? it they just they just spoke about the sentencing uh and they said that uh no they said um as proven at trial by 2016 mackie had established an audience on twitter with approximately 58 000 followers a february 2016 analysis by the mit media lab ranked mackie as one of the most significant influencers on the then upcoming presidential election uh so they were using that against him like the fact that he had a platform the fact that he had a lot of followers platform followers follow him because he makes memes because he makes memes would they be voting

for for hillary by text right. It's a bad argument. And we had to explain the joke to the fact checker. We had to be like, the joke was. But these are contemporary political cartoons. That's what's going on here. Right. So the point is, this guy's followers are not voting for Hillary at all. Right.

Right. Exactly. Well, now he needs to go to jail. And now he's going to go to jail. They said, for example, on November 1st, 2016, in or around the same time that Mackey was sending tweets suggesting the importance of limiting black turnout. So they're using a racial thing. The defendant tweeted an image depicting an African-American woman standing in front of an African-Americans for Hillary sign. The ad stated, avoid the line, vote from home.

And they say that that's deceptive. And they're using that racial thing as though that somehow makes it worse. It's kind of like a different argument than the one that they're trying to use. It's exactly, yeah. So. Yeah. Hmm. And then they complain that he also tweeted the same image in Spanish. But, I mean, that's actually kind of funny.

Maybe the only one they have. Oh, wow. It's amusing. Yeah. You know, that's actually kind of funny. Maybe the only one they have. It's amusing. Yeah. You know, it's amusing. So, yeah, I think what is happening to Timcast over this Fox News thing, that's definitely a 1A thing. Well, I was thinking about it too. And it's like, if you just muted the video and had the transcript, it would be like 80%.

It would be, you could not even get the debate through that it would be mostly commentary and jumbled words around i mean you wouldn't be able to yeah like it's not the same thing at all yeah the transcript what we said right yeah right yeah definitely because we're right and the people who are like i can't hear what they're saying i'm like then go watch the debate i guess yeah yeah we can just go turn on abc yourself you know but this this thing with douglas mackley's mackie is a whole whole other thing i mean it's it 2024 is gonna get nuts uh i i strongly recommend everybody watch this morning's culture war if you did not you need to it was with dr robert epstein and robert bows and we were discussing uh mostly it was Dr. Epstein discussing what Google does.

And you got to watch it. Two hours of him breaking down how Google's cheating. Yep. Google's cheating on the election. Well, so it's really, really simple. He said that they have hard data tracking this, admissible in court, provable. On election day, day 100 of democrat voters get a notification go vote really and republic 59 of republicans get the same

thing that is enough it doesn't matter if uh and i think i think that may have been facebook one of the big tech companies had done something like this. It doesn't matter if they control what you what you see or hear. All that matters is they remind you on the day of Republicans get. Don't forget to go buy pizza and wings today. Don't miss out on the new. Imagine this. It's election day and you wake up in the morning. You're like, am I forgetting something?

And you look at your phone and your Trump supporter and it says major discount at wings, you know, wing store and huge party available. Get, you know, 10 cent wings today. And you're like, whoa, you call your buddies like, hey man, they got 10 cent wings. We should go hang out and, you know, and watch the game and like, let's, let's go. And then totally forgetting his election day. And the Democrats wake up and look at their phone and it says, go and vote right now. And they go, oh, that's right. Voting today. today it's all takes if they can get five percent of republicans not to vote by doing something like that it's done yeah that's enough yep and between that and the intensive suppression that there was in 2020 of anything that would indicate joe biden was a giant liar with a history of family corruption you know okay so they were putting ads

on social media like reminding democrats to go out and vote what were they like you get a notification from facebook itself like yeah when when when you go on facebook you've never gotten these uh i remember yeah i have i have like but like it was like yeah i guess you're right but they were targeting mostly democrats what he was saying is that i don't know if it was face which platform he mentioned did this but he said democrats 100 of the democrats in their study got notifications to go vote and only 59 of republicans did interesting yeah that's all it takes and then there's of course the the information manipulation which everyone is mostly focused on but you got to understand how simple it is.

Now, the interesting thing is, he said, when Ted Cruz filed a letter, basically calling, I think, calling Google out for this. He said, we watched in Georgia the mechanism by which the bias is created. Turn off. They're tracking what he said were ephemeral, what they call ephemeral experiences. And this is crazy. This is crazy crazy stuff here's how it works everything you do online mostly recordable and tracked you post a tweet someone can archive it however the google search results that you get will never be repeated you get that one time that image that you see on that page is not stored or archived anywhere and it's gone in a moment really yeah yeah i mean it wouldn't be stored no but yeah i remember realizing how crazy it is that

my google search results for the exact same search terms were different than somebody else's and they'll be different for you the next time you do it yeah and so with that why is that why did he say that was so well that's just the nature by which Google operates. When you search, the algorithm will generate a list of possibilities. And if you search again, it may change. This is why libraries and card catalogs were so. Because these things are ephemeral. What happens is Google, I suppose the argument is they can, you can search for Donald Trump.

Google can send you the most insane things ever trump is hitler trump is evil and you're like oh my oh my god no one saw that it happened that it happened you will never see it again and you can't prove it so they thought this data is not being tracked but it's manipulating people's perspectives perception so what he started doing what they do now is they have a whole bunch of volunteers, tens of thousands, I think 12,000 or whatever. And they actually track all the searches and everything everyone's seeing. And they've actually created a database proving the bias and track tracking it in real time. So when Ted Cruz had this letter, he watched the lopsidedness

of Democrats being given positive information, Republicans being, you know, negative information. Then Ted Cruz sends a letter and it's gone. And I think Zach Voorhees, a whistleblower who came out to Veritas, made a similar argument. That's right. Yeah, it's on your... Made a similar argument

that Google can turn it off and on and manipulate elections and all that. So, yeah, that's... No, it's true. They pick what goes at the top and you can't tell me they don't because. What's really weird too is Douglas Murray's Madness of Crowds has a whole chapter about how when you type in like married couple, it will show you like two men and a baby or something weird uh or or different interracial couples yeah yeah it's kind of like agenda driven in the yeah you think you think i haven't seen a commercial

with all white people in it since the canadian suicide commercials like those are oh and the army ones recently are coming out they're white but there is absolutely an agenda behind everything because radical leftists run silicon valley they run run the big tech industries they run pretty much everything that's why it was so important when elon musk took over twitter it was like one of our guys like taking over like a giant uh and kind of leveling the playing field and that's what we have to do we have to continue to build we have to continue to start like a hostile takeover of these tech companies. Well, or the parallel economy, which I think is so great, you know, to see alternative ways like, you know, the company that Tim was just highlighting at the top, the cool wood products, don't buy them from Ikea,

buy them from this guy. You know, I think that's a better way to go. I was recently, so I travel a lot for work, and I was walking down the, whatever you call it, the jetway to get onto the plane. And you're standing there waiting to get on the plane, and it's just all advertisements of why our airline is the best one. And there was an interracial couple. There was a gay couple. there were like all of these um

alter everyone who was in it was sort of like alternative to the what you would traditionally have seen like the more stereotypical thing and i was like it's it's just so obviously intentionally done you know these changes that are being made to affect our impression um and i think that it's true like i saw this recently it was like um most of these ads are geared toward middle-aged white women yeah definitely yeah that's funny who are like all on ssris anyway disturbed right general marketing idea that we so uh you'll see a lot of these commercials where it's an interracial couple, couple with mixed race kids. And there's a lot of people who think it's a conspiracy to, uh, like get white people to stop having kids or something, or to, you know, mixed race date or something like that.

No, it's actually really simple because I know a bunch of marketing guys. And when this, before this stuff even started happening, the conversation was occurring in these rooms, rooms, marketing rooms. They're basically saying, we have a marketing budget of $10 million. We need to hit these demographics. And they'd be like, okay, what's our strategy for selling insert product

in the white neighborhoods of Detroit? What's our strategy for black neighborhoods? And then millennial, the brilliant millennial goes, why don't we just have like a black wife and a white husband because then you can sell to the black neighborhood and the white neighborhood and they were like that's a good point we can save costs by doing one commercial if we show a black person and a white person in the same shot enjoying a meal with our product and they're like that's a great idea and it doesn't work the exact opposite happens it

becomes relatable to no one but that that was that was a lot of the mentality of these marketing firms was right like how can we minimize the cost of production right and maximize our reach right they thought white liberals are going to eat this stuff up and it'll play really well in minority communities because you know interracial couples and it's like bro interracial people are like three percent of this country yeah you have just dramatically removed yourself from what people would relate to right i'm sorry that it's true people just forget that it's like it's a budget thing it's not has mainly to do with saving money it's like more effective well-intentioned but not thought yeah it's not gonna work on paper even though on paper it looks like it does work right in reality it's not gonna work on paper, even though on paper it looks like it does work. In reality,

it's not gonna work. In practice, it doesn't work. Look at Victoria's Secret. They switched back. That was fascinating, right? Great example. So they got rid of the angels, the sexy women in lingerie.

In like 2018-ish? Yeah, 2020. They put Megan Rapinoe in. No, no, it was 2021. Yeah, and they put Megan Rapinoe in. Yep, and some fat women and they were like, this is what women want.

And trans. A lot of trans. A lot of men advertising women's lingerie. Remember Calvin Klein had big morbidly obese people. And so the, and if you go to the mall, you'll see their models are just morbidly obese and they have morbidly obese mannequins. The argument being made was this is more representative. So we're trying to target real women, right why why do this you know these these sexy models women don't aren't like that they want to see real people these these these marketing people

are dumb as a box of rocks yeah it's kind of true as someone who has a marketing degree went through marketing at like a big school in the united states most people that are marketing are there because their dad told them to or they just don't know what they're going in school they're not really in it for the thing victoria's secret reverts and goes back to sexy women realizing that okay that didn't work and i think we'll see a lot of the same thing in advertisements they're going to say okay you know like look this area in this city is is 90 white and we're trying to sell them a product there we we want them to think that's me and i should use that product so if you create an

experience to them that is more foreign literally figuratively and literally then that's that's not resonating with them yeah it doesn't resonate with me i remember seeing the uh i remember seeing the ads of like men wearing lingerie oh yeah and like it's like trans people in lingerie or like very large women in lingerie or even just in regular clothes. Seeing Dylan Mulvaney in a Kate Spade dress like I'm never going to buy that dress when I look at clothes. I don't know about you, Lauren, but when I look at clothes and I think like, oh, it looks great on that person. And then you sort of have this in your mind. Like if I buy that, I will look great, too. You don't want to see how bad the clothes

look on really fat people because then you look at it and you're like oh i'm gonna like fatten it too exactly i'm not looking at an extra large person thinking yeah i need that i need to look just like that but it was crazy but it was also what was but obviously there was agenda an agenda behind it because they cannot expect that to like increase sales. You know, if we put extra large, very offensive looking people in our clothes, like how this is not going to increase sales, which brings you back to the agenda. It's all about the agenda, the agenda that, oh, obesity is beautiful. Oh, to be, you know, way overweight and unhealthy. That's how you need to be in order to get the spread in Victoria's Secret. Same with Dylan Mulvaney.

You know, if you are a male who decides to dress as a dress as a woman, hey, you get a Bud Light deal. You got a Tampax deal. He got everything under his sun. He got a Tampax deal. He did. He got a Tampax. Yes.

It's amazing. That was so ridiculous. So I think what we're seeing now is all of these women, liberal women claiming they believe these things have been lying the whole time and victoria's secret is proof the proof is sales declined hey hold on victoria's secret didn't didn't pull a bud light i mean they kind of did but there was no big boycott no big backlash women didn't go around saying no more victoria's secret they just silently stopped buying it stopped buying it while cheering for it these These liberal leftist women were like, yay, I'm not buying that.

And what does it show? Here's how I think it works. The beautiful women that you see in lingerie, women are like, I understand that woman is objectively beautiful. I want to be objectively beautiful like her. I want to wear what she's wearing and be objectively beautiful. But when you put morbidly obese women and people like Megan Rapinoe, who is not beautiful, she's a great athlete, props to her and all that.

But she is not what men typically and stereotypically are attracted to. And she doesn't want that. That's fine for her. I'm not arguing anything. I'm just saying you're women. Then look at Megan Rapinoe and go, she is not objectively beautiful. I do not want to look like her. Stops buying the product.

Clothes are aspirational. You know, you buy clothes because you want them to make you look good and you want to make, you want to feel good. And how many women- And you want to feel like you're part of whatever the beautiful thing is. How many women buy one size smaller

because they're like, I'm going to fit in this? Oh, I literally never do that. No, but I'm saying, I'm not saying- And I just have to return it. I'm saying- fit in this. Oh, I literally never do that. No, but I'm not saying I'm not saying I just have to return it. I'm saying that never happened there. There there are. That just makes me feel worse. Looking at Victoria's Secret models.

OK, well, I'm not a woman. But my assumption is the reason why we have movies where the dudes are massive, like, you chris chris hemsworth in thor for instance that you always see these stories where uh actually jason uh just in momoa right momo they they they posted a photo of him at the beach and they were like he's looking pretty fat he wasn't it's just that he dehydrates himself so that his skin gets real thin you can see his muscles so he looks ripped but then when he starts drinking water again hydration oh yeah so when you see men in movies and they're looking all ripped and their veins are bulging they have muscles and they're like they don't drink water for two days yeah oh awful that's right so awful because i

would much rather have a hydrated puffy guy yep and and and then you'll see like it looks like love handles but it's it's it's thick skin and they have some fat on their body but to get in shape for the movie they eat ridiculous amounts of fish and chicken all day every day work out relentlessly and then dehydrate right before they film the scene right three days yeah the reason we go to those extremes is because you're trying to create something beyond the normal, something aspirational. That looks like a heroic, very, very strong man. I imagine it's similar in a certain way for women

with like Victoria's Secret and these other companies. They say, we all know that men and women find that beautiful and we want to be as beautiful as we can be. So we want to be like them. That's why I think the sales drop when they put morbidly obese women because like well there's a bunch of fat women they don't want to look like that no they want to look like supermodels they want it they want to improve themselves and be better they want to look better and be more attractive men want to look better and be more attractive men want to do more pull-ups or whatever

but then you see it all fall apart right and. And also I think like, for example, with Victoria's secret, like guys buy stuff for their like wives and girlfriends and stuff like that. And they're looking at big bonk. We should have a, I don't know about that. So like, they want like the good looking stuff. Cause a lot of men buy stuff for girls too.

And they don't think about that. That's a really good point too. The guy walks to the mall and he's like, I want to eat my wife, you know, I want to get her something nice. And I'll take a look at this and there's like a 300 pound morbidly obese mannequin just like she would take this as an insult like you can't do that let's uh let's talk about this story here from the daily mail conspiracy theorist alex jones

must still pay 1 billion in damages to san diego families and can't hide behind his bankruptcy protection judge rules. This is crazy. They are saying that bankruptcy is not enough. So the general idea of a bankruptcy is, hey, we need to prioritize what we're paying back to keep the company operating. If they begin to seize his assets, InfoWars will cease to exist. That was always the point. I'm not surprised this is happening. It's going to get a lot worse in 2024 they're going to start going after everybody

yeah but there's kind of part of it with the whole youtube thing it's going to start yeah yeah it's all going to start happening this is different from you know fox what the thing about fox news and the and the strike i think this is just something that needs to be, the precedent has not been set on a new technology and a change in how the public operates. Right. So this is one of the first elections where you have ubiquitous live streams with prominent personalities who dominate prime time. So, of course, the argument from Fox is like, hey, what do you think you're doing? And it's like, welcome to the new world of public participation. This technology exists people have always played the debates and argued and debated them and fact-checked them to the public now it's happening in digital world

right if fox news has their way it reverses the internet you know hey maybe then there's no live in the pot need the bugs because you can't have digital broadcast and digital public debate. They'd get rid of it. This is different. Alex Jones's opinions. Ten years ago, he had very bad ones. He's got to pay a billion dollars. OK, fine. He lost.

They had a summary judgment against him. He files for bankruptcy. This will destroy the company. It'll get all my employees fired. And the judge says, so what? This is lawfare. This is they are trying to destroy Alex Jones. And, you know, you had talked earlier, like said earlier about like

defamation lawsuits. Now they have to be said in malice. And I truly don't believe he said those things in malice back then. You know what I'm saying? I think he truly believed them back then. And just how did they get him? him actual malice means you intentionally lied you knew what you were saying was false yeah so you say something intentionally knowing it was false so it absolutely is because like a lot of us like we there's a lot of like misinformation there's a lot of stuff out there like we say things we see things and we make you know a statement believing it at the time he didn't say that in malice like he truly believed what he was saying at the time and now they're still coming after him 10 years later, even though, and he never even

said anything, like Alex Jones never said anything that stated, oh yeah, I knew it wasn't true, and I said it anyway. So it really is just a continued weaponization of the justice system to shut down all dissent, to shut down digital media, because they're coming for you next, because cable television is dying, and digital is is the future and anybody who has a name for themselves or makes some really good points or actually does some damage on culture taking back the culture they're going to try and come for you so that's just what they do so you have to you know and honestly apologizing to they come after you when you start apologizing. They smell blood. Oh, you can never apologize.

Never. They smell blood and they will take you all the way down. That's your whole struggle session thing. Don't apologize in a struggle session. Yep. Just sit there and take it and leave. That's true. That's it.

Why did they say that he can't file for bankruptcy and protect himself that way? I mean, I assume the reason is arbitrary. Quote, the families are pleased with the court ruling that jones's malicious conduct will find no safe harbor in the bankruptcy court said christopher matea connecticut lawyer as a result jones will continue to be accountable for his actions on his site yada yada i don't know that seems absurd also where is he supposed to get a billion dollars right he only has 14 million it's like saying we know you don't have it but that's not good enough. Right.

So what are they going to take? And how is he supposed to get it if they shut down his channel? That's the only way he makes money. Because it's not what it's about. Yeah, exactly. So they just want to scuttle him. I think this proves it. If it was really about recovering damages, they'd say bankruptcy must protect Alex Jones, and then we will garnish whatever wages and profit he would get off his show.

Right. But if they're saying no bankruptcy protection, then InfoWars ceases to exist, and that's it. End of story. No money for anybody. Yeah, it's kind of like a by any means possible kind of thing is what I'm saying. No matter what, whatever they can do. I don't know if it says what is explanation for why bankruptcy doesn't apply. At least here it just says the judge

said it so it is i don't know what the argument is yeah and when was this ruled was this today really yeah this just happened today i knew that they like of uh like initially were suing him for the entire like it was like the same amount as the military defense or something yeah it was like the defense budget budget of United States, something ridiculous. And it was, you know, I mean, they're just trying to take him down. You know, I hope Alex stays strong. We're with you, man. Like, this is not good.

And they're just like, it's not even legal. It's not legal what they're doing. And I hope he appeals it. I know that different states have different um you know standards on how much you can sue a person for so like in the state of connecticut like even though it was in connecticut in some places like they couldn't sue him for more than a certain amount legally so i don't know if this still applies to that or if that just overrules all of that i'd have to read it even cnn doesn't that doesn't give the the reasoning behind why he's not protected from like bankruptcies no it doesn't make this doesn't make sense it just says the

judge said it the families filed the motion because they thought he wouldn't pay and then it goes on to explain the the past lawsuit i love the logic behind that we thought we wouldn't pay so we just charged you a bunch more money right millions and millions more dollars well no they're saying we thought he wouldn't pay because of a bankruptcy so he had we want the judge to say he can't use bankruptcy the judge said okay oh wow but it doesn't explain with the judge how the with the judges uh why yeah exactly why is this one bypassing bankruptcy i still don't think the family get a single penny and it's because if jones goes if info goes out info wars is out of business there's no money right exactly most of the most of the debt that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy is child support alimony unpaid taxes and student

loan debt most other things according to investopedia can be alleviated through bankruptcy yeah so i wonder what makes this special. Yeah. You know, like what the law is there. And he filed Chapter 11. Is that what he did? Or was it? Yeah, Chapter 11.

Chapter 11. He says those, okay, so Lopez ruled the protections do not apply over findings of willful and malicious conduct. Oh, that's another one. Here it is. apply over findings of willful and malicious conduct. Oh, that's another one. Here it is. It says debts for willful and malicious injury to another person or property. Willful and malicious here means deliberate and without just cause.

And that's, so that's one, two. Debts for death or personal injury. It was a default ruling. Caused by the debtor. Yeah. That doesn't seem reasonable either. There was no trial over this. Yeah.

There was only a settlement hearing jones never actually got to argue any of his case yep that does not seem uh that doesn't seem how did we get to that point though i mean look people keep saying oh you know civil war is a stupid thing to say and it's like dude it's not just that trump has been indicted on like 91 or 94 counts it's not just that they've arrested his lawyers it's not just that a couple of his lawyers have just been sentenced to five and six years of probation for being his lawyers it's not just that they're going after alex jones in what is clearly going to destroy a media outlet uh and that he got no trial for it it's not just just that Donald Trump was found in a summary judgment to have committed fraud

without a trial in New York. It's not just that a judge said Donald Trump's properties are worth a fraction of what they're actually worth, even to the protest of of finance experts and real estate experts. It is not just that they have been targeting Trump supporters, J6ers, solitary confinement. It's not just that far leftists have received no penalty for the hundreds who stormed the Capitol recently. They light slap on the wrist. It's not just that Ricky Vaughn, Douglas Mackey,

gets seven months. Seven months. And a Democrat who did the same thing gets nothing. Should the list go on? Should the list go on? Should the list go on? It goes on endlessly. No, I'm just saying there is so much evidence that the machine is trying to crush and destroy you for political reasons to argue that we are not entering one of the most dangerous

times in this country's history is ludicrous. And you'd have to forget every yesterday to believe we are not headed towards something truly dark. Now, I kind of don't think we're losing, to be completely honest, like I said. There's a lot of reasons to think that we are winning. But the desperation is becoming palpable. And I don't know to what degree this goes.

It may just be Trump wins and then, oh, there we go. But you guys watch the culture war episode we did this morning. I think it's episode 34, it may be with Dr. Robert Epstein as he breaks down the machine of Google, Facebook, big tech, and how they are controlling what you think. And they know everything about what you're doing. We've talked about it. Facebook can predict if you're going to quit your job. Facebook can predict if you're going to go have a bite to eat. Facebook knows what restaurant you're going to before you even know.

Because the algorithms, the AI knows all of the characteristics about you. And then it can formulate these probabilities and know exactly what you're going to do. That's why when you'll be, you could be thinking something and then you see an ad for it. And you didn't say it out loud. And you didn't say anything to anybody. You're just thinking it. This is freaky. I hate when that happens.

It's freaky. People think that the reason an ad will appear on instagram like you're talking with your buddy and you're like you know i i kind of think i need a tv and then an ad appears like get a new tv you're like yo it's spying on me it's not predictive algorithms know more about you than you know about yourself now don't get me wrong they're spying on you for sure and um if you have voice activation on your phone your phone is recording everything you say always right because in order to activate it has to be listening to you right and if you want your phone to activate whenever you say your passphrase

then it has to be listening all the time waiting for that passphrase how does voice activation work voice tech works by taking your voice sending it off to a private company translating that audio file into a text file sending it back to your device and then inputting that as as a command which means everything you say several famous stories where uh there was a murder and an amazon device recorded the entire murder and they were like we have the recording and people are like how In order to activate the Amazon device, it must be always recording. Otherwise, how does it know when you say those words? It's like arguing that, you know, you plug your ears and put on headphones so no one, so you can't hear anything. But as soon as someone says your name,

you'll take them off. Well, how are you going to hear them say your name if you're wearing earmuffs? That's the same thing with these Amazon and Google devices. They are listening 24-7. Welcome to your brave new world. Yeah, so be careful in people's houses when you're in there at night stalking them, trying to, you know, injure them.

You can be careful with that Amazon. Be careful, turn it off. Yeah. But I just think, I think this Alex Jones story, I think next year is going to get crazy. Yeah, definitely will. I think we're going to have to drop, careful that amazon be careful turn it off yeah but i just think i think this alex jones story i think next year is gonna get crazy yeah definitely will i think we're gonna have to jump like vote trump out of prison what do you think do you think we're gonna get to that point i think we're gonna

have to vote him out so he can party himself i'm ready to do it though i think sydney powell and kenneth chase bro stabbing him in the back i think that's definitely happening is is going to result in uh widespread 14th amendment lawsuits in like every state from every democrat didn't she did yeah and so did chesborough and agreed to testify against them and by pleading pleading guilty what people keep saying it's like it's so funny they're like yeah but she she took misdemeanor charges for auction interfering like interfering in official like an election or something and Trump's name wasn't mentioned. And it's like, okay, okay, yeah, headline, guilty. Yes. So now what's going to happen is Trump's lawyer pleaded guilty

and has actually been sentenced. Every Democrat, you know, Mark Elias, they're going to file 50,000 lawsuits, all saying in this court case, in this court case, in this court case, the defendant admitted they interfered. They admitted and they were working for Donald Trump directly. And there's a reason they keep charging the little guy first. There's a reason they charged all the January 6th people in Tanya Chutkan's court before they dragged Trump into her court. And the other thing, too, is you see at Mar-a-Lago in the documents case um the they got the it guy to flip on trump as well they got him a plea deal right and so he's going to testify as well that he was i think i

think they're alleging that he had um been pressured to erase surveillance footage well see i think that they do a lot of this too to get the headlines so the headlines trump's lawyer pleads guilty to this election fraud like election um uh manipulation or all these different things to demoralize his base because i know that base from 2020 truly believes in the stop the steal movement you know everything they marched for they were, they truly believed in it. And it's a way to demoralize them as we go into 2024, like thinking, am I crazy? Like, was I wrong for supporting that movement? And they do that with those headlines. So it's not just chipping away at Trump, it's chipping away at his base to demoralize his base. And that's something important to know, like when they gave Sidney Powell a plea deal, then they knew that would

hurt. That would kind of hurt because she had a lot of big supporters during the Stop the Steal movement. And she just, you know, that was a hit. And they're just chipping away at him, hoping that Trump will give up. You know, that's the whole thing. If we indict him enough, maybe we'll get him to give up. But every time they do that, his polling numbers go up and it's just getting better and better. So you're right, Tim.

It's going to be a crazy year. However, it's going to be brutal, too, because they won't stop. They're going to file insane lawsuits. It's just and they're going to make the 14th Amendment argument that he can't be president. Check out this story we have in the Daily Mail. Judge fines Trump $5,000 for calling his clerk Schumer's girlfriend and now deleted truth social post so you mean to tell me that after he was told to shut up he retroactively then came back and said okay now you got to pay me money yeah so they made trump be quiet uh trump deleted the post

and now they're finding him it says the judge said it was a blatant violation of a gag order preventing trump from publicly attacking his staff. Did he call her Schumer's girlfriend again? I don't think so. I don't think he did it again. I think it was just the one time. He deleted it, but it also appeared on his campaign website. Right.

This was the old post. I thought that was the pretext for the gag. It was. What? He didn't want him. Engoron. Is that how you say his name and goron i guess i did not want trump saying mean things about his staff okay so that was the mean thing that caused him to want a gag order yes and then after the gag order he went back

and is now fining trump for this post that he had erased yeah because it looks like it was also on his campaign website. Hey, this is just the beginning. He's going to, I think the judges are going to do a whole bunch of crazy stuff, right? They can get,

they can lock Trump up right now on contempt. You don't, you don't need a reason for that. They can, he can come in and he can, and Trump, he can wait for Trump to say anything. Hey,

watch your tone with me. If you do that again, I'm going to hold you in contempt. Right. And then Trump says, okay, fine. I i i warned you lock him up bailiff they could play whatever shady games they want now granted he's got cameras in the courtroom so he's trying to be a movie star here because he's a psychopath but uh we'll see how that plays out i just think people many people on the right libertarians post-liberals etc keep thinking they're playing they're playing a game of chess you know where it's like okay well you know i know the rules

you know the rules you do the best move i'll do the best move meanwhile they're sitting back and they've got like five queens and they're like what's that over there and they put a queen on the board it's like how do you have two queens it's like what do you mean yeah it's just normal yeah it's like they changed the rules last year you can now have five queens yeah what do you mean last year we agreed we all agreed yeah i mean why don't you have five queens oh that's too bad i win right it's like playing monopoly where the person who's the banker keeps pulling extra money out and you're like you're cheating i'm like i'm not yeah guys we voted last year on this last turn it's okay it's a new rules guys and he also has the gag order in the D.C. case.

It was put on hold today for a little bit. What? Yeah. What? You can put a gag order on hold for a little bit? Yeah. So Judge Tanya Chutkin, who actually oversaw the cases of a number of January 6th defendants and sentenced them to longer than the Department of Justice was even asking for said that the gag order in that case that's the J6 case would remain on hold while she considers

Trump's um suggestion that he should be allowed to speak freely about the case what yeah so she had issued the gag order on Monday, which prevented him from speaking publicly, um, by targeting prosecutors or anyone on staff or witnesses. And it's a very serious restriction. It's the most serious restriction that they've had so far in any of the cases, Trump's attorneys,

um, appealed it. And so now they're, now they're just like hanging on for a minute. Trump's lawyers called it egregious and intolerable saying by restricting president Trump's free speech, the gag order eviscerates the rights of his audiences, including hundreds of millions of American citizens who the court now forbids

from listening to president Trump's thoughts on important issues. That's crazy. That's actually a great point. It's only getting started. And that is what he says, right? Like, they're not coming after me. They're coming after you. I'm just in the way.

Right, yeah. And Trump's base loves those insults, too. Like, they love them. They're a lot of fun. Like, they're funny. They're the best part. I thought Trump's tweets were the best part of Trump. And them trying to stop that, you know,

it's unacceptable. And I love how, like, I mean, Biden keeps making everything worse and worse. And on Twitter, people keep going, hey, wouldn't it be nice to just have some mean tweets? Hey, mean tweets. And that's true. It's true. Yeah. I mean, their argument was, but the mean tweets.

And so you're like, no new wars, but the mean tweets. We're withdrawing from the active wars we're in but the mean tweets and then it's just like a lot of people were like but we like the mean tweets exactly they're great and it's just because he was just an ordinary person saying things that we all were thinking and i thought like i think my favorite one was like the the rosie o'donnell one and, she got really mad. No, was it Megyn Kelly asked him about it?

Like, because I think he called her like really insulting. And she was like, oh, you called women this? And he said, no,

just Rosie. And it was really funny. It was one of the epic moments of Trump. I think that's one of our favorite parts. There's a whole Shane Gillis bit about how he just went up there

and started, you know, attacking everyone. It was like, whoa, you can do this? Like, this is like, it could be your thing. It's like, can be yeah and i'll give it to ted cruz he was a good sport i'm pretty sure like trump told him like his like wife was ugly or something and like then he turned around lion ted oh yeah he insulted him so bad but

you know what lie in like roar like lion like he called him lying ted and then after uh like ted got behind trump all the trump supporters are saying lie in yeah they were like yeah yep yeah he was a good sport he didn't hold a grudge he just got in line and endorsed him it was good i actually ted cruz i respect it for that i don't know what that the desantis campaign thinks they're doing i mean you know but the crazy like i keep hearing people we have a lot of people come on the show and we've had some people who are not hyper partisan they're conservatives but they're kind of just like come on guys we got to win this and they're going why are the desantis people attacking me and i'm like what'd you say

like i haven't said anything about them and i'm like dude the desantis people are trying to lose that's the only thing i can say yeah what's amazing is they keep giving ammunition to joe biden yeah maybe that's the point i don't know yikes yeah they uh see i like desantis as a governor i thought he was a great governor he did a great job during you know covid and everything but it was just the standard it wasn't like he was doing like superior things that like set apart. Like that is what the standard should have been.

Governors should have kept their states open. They should have not put masks on kids. They shouldn't have closed the schools down, closed the churches. Just because DeSantis didn't do that doesn't make him special. It means he was upholding the standard. And, you know, I respect him doing that,

especially because a lot of Republicans sold out during that time. However, you know, I respect him doing that, especially because a lot of Republicans sold out during that time. However, you know, it's a character flaw. Donald Trump drug him across the finish line in his election to put him where he was. And this is how you treat them. You know, it was I think that it was a character flaw on his behalf. I think that he should remain governor. The people of Florida need him.

And I don't think that he needs to have higher aspirations, at least not yet. So that's my opinion. I thought he could have been a shoe-in for the next go-round, you know? Yep. He should have been VP

and then presidential candidate next time around. That would have been a back-up. That was the path. If he had ran on, hey, this is my record. This is what I've done. This is what, you know,

my conservative record, which is strong. Hey, I'm just here because donald trump might get arrested you know like he was just running as like a v the high heels that's that's that's that's that's campaign ending yeah i missed this part of the news cycle what happened with that oh he's wearing lifts it's like that seinfeld episode remember where uh where where they they said to the guy who was like the the body double for one of the kids on a tv show mickey there was mickey and they're like mickey's wearing lifts he's wearing lifts and he's heightening yeah and on seinfeld he was heightening because oh this was growing what is this this definitely looks like he's wearing lifts right here are they

just weird cowboys no because it makes his his lower leg look really yeah right it's like chris angeling it weird it's very weird yeah that's it there it is oh oh man yeah that's damning for me like okay so honey so there's no foot here in the front of the boot and it's just like dude yeah have you ever worn like cowboy boots it looks like he's just putting his foot halfway and his heel is sitting right on the on the end of the boot and it's just like dude yeah have you ever worn like cowboy boots it looks like he's just putting his foot halfway in and his heel is sitting right on the on the end of the boot right there you know what i mean like yeah but hold on he should really on the left look how long his fibula is it's weird man there's no way dude i don't know you can argue that it's distorted or whatever but i think when you can you can tell there's no foot in the upper boot and the pressure on the front of the boot looks like the top of his foot. It does.

This looks like an accurate drawing of what he's doing. Yeah. That's what it looks like. Look how long his leg would be if it was like, yeah, that's crazy. His leg would be massive. Dude, this guy just, I don't know. I feel bad for him. I feel bad for him because I thought he did a good job.

Yeah. This looks like he's on his tippy toes. Imagine halfway put on your boot and going on national TV. Come on, bro. Yeah, that'd be... You're sitting down. You can get away with doing

like a two inch heel lift inside your shoe, but whatever he's going for is just... He's like standing on his tippy toes, man. Yeah. Also, like, why do you need it? Well, height matters. No question. Yeah. Also, like, why do you need it? Well, height matters.

No question. Yeah. That much? It matters that much? Yep, absolutely. That's why, didn't someone want a box to stand on

when they were in a debate, Trump or something like that? Yeah, it was Michael Bloomberg. It was Michael Bloomberg, yeah. Bloomberg wanted a box. Because he is short,

he's very short. He's Trump, though, but in the debate, he wanted a box to stand on. because he's a little thing. Yeah, because you're open about it, not trying to hide it. He's very short. Not against Trump, though. But in the debate, he wanted a box to stand on. Because he's a little thing. If you're open about it, not trying to hide it. It's when you try to hide it. It's all a numbers game.

And so the individual doesn't matter. You can come out and say, I know you're all reasonable, right? And they'll be like, yeah. But it doesn't matter because if 1% of people factor in height, you lose. So that's why everybody everybody everybody knows like the game played by politicians and if you have have you guys ever seen that uh movie the adjustment bureau maybe uh it sounds familiar it's fun fun movie with matt damon where basically there's a bunch of i guess you call them angels who control people's destinies and are guiding people and

manipulating and so this matt damon is running for senate and he loses and then they're like we need to okay he lost that's good because we want him to run again and win later so they're like now we're gonna get him back on track they influence him he goes out to give his concession speech and then he just gets tired of it and he's like okay and he just he's like see this tie we actually spent five thousand dollars to figure out what the you know what tie i should wear and he's like you know we actually have a consultant telling us what the right amount of scuff on a shoe should be fifteen thousand dollars like just basically breaking it all down but that's the game they play they probably went to panels and showed ron de santa speaking without the lifts and with the

lifts and found that there was a massive benefit to wearing lifted shoes, lifted boots. He's allegedly wearing these things. I believe it is fair to say he is because it looks like he's standing on his tippy toes in this picture and his leg looks too long in this picture. You know, it looks like he's levitating. That's crazy. It doesn't look like he's like, oh, you're right. It does. It is funny.

It also doesn't help that you can't even see the He's like left. Oh, you're right. It does. It does. It is funny. It also doesn't help that you can't even see the back of his foot. Yeah. I was looking at polls before I hopped on today and I think he went down four points just today.

I was wondering what happened. Oh, not again. Nikki Haley is beating him in one of the latest polls and in the prediction markets. How great would it have been to see him and Trump

just like storm the country? You'd be like, nice. You know what I wonder? I wonder if they went to DeSantis and told him to run to see him and Trump just like storm the country? You'd be like, nice. I don't you know what? You know what I wonder? I wonder if they went to DeSantis and told him to run to destroy him. I'm not kidding. To destroy DeSantis? Yes.

DeSantis was massively popular, was pushing a lot of anti-woke policies, was look, look what happened to Florida under under DeSantis. He was the shoe in for VP. And we had talked about this. I'm hanging out in DC at National Harbor. And I hear a guy going like, oh, I can't stand Trump, man. And then I was like, what about DeSantis? Like, I could vote DeSantis. I could vote DeSantis. And I said, what if it was Trump DeSantis? And he's like, oh, yeah, I'd probably vote that. I heard so much of that. If DeSantis was the VP, what did we all say? Oh, it's no question. Because DeSantis was the vp what do we all say oh it's no question because desantis is the everyman

the regular guy with military experience who tones down trump and lets and gives you that assurance don't worry trump i'm gonna keep him in check so they go to him and they whisper in his ear now you should be president come on run now who's trump's vp desantis implodes tanked his own i mean come on who told him to wear those boots whoever told him to wear those boots destroyed him that's a really good point because now he's disliked he used to be loved now he's very disliked by the same people that are that were once his base and that somebody was filling his head telling him you gotta run you're gonna win this we're gonna make you like the superstar they loved you during covid they're gonna love you now and then he ran and then it just crumbled from there

like and people just don't even like him imagine a debate right i think trump should debate ron should be on the gop debate stage oh yeah you know because he's gonna be like show him your boots ron come on let's see it you know he's wearing high heels silly would he be amazing that would be the best clip ever shove your boots around that's good and what's wrong gonna do that i i i wonder because i've been saying for a while it feels like okay so so i'll explain this um i posted something somewhat innocuous about florida related to jazz jennings all of a sudden the entire desantis communication team is insulting and attacking me oh gosh i have friends because jazz was in florida because jazz

was in florida and got surgery under uh just had to say administration and all i said was i said where's where's ron de santis the appropriate response would be nothing say nothing if you want to engage you could be like here's the bill working on instead they decided to get all of their communications people to call me a moron an an idiot, other insults. And I was like, what is this? This is crazy. I'm like, I've been praising the guy for a year. And then I said one thing and they lose it. I have friends who worked in his campaign.

We know that the DeSantis campaign has an explicit rule. You do not go on TimCast IRL. I've talked to some of these people. They're just like, I'm like, you do realize a bunch of prominent DeSantis fans are asking me why you're insulting them. I'm not, it's up to them to speak out. But the guests on this show, just go back through the list of the people we've had on the show. And you can try and make your guess as to who you think it is. But it's about three people have said, are you being attacked by Ron DeSantis' campaign? And then I'm like, I laugh about it. I'm like, oh, they insult

me all the time. And then they'll ask me, why is this happening? We've had people say, I'm, I've been getting attacked by his communications people for no reason. Actually take a look at what happened with Ashley St. Clair past week, this past week, we week we did uh she made a funny joke about ron wearing high heels and christina pushaw immediately responds like okay christina pushaw was like when you have no argument against ronda sandis so you make up this insult or whatever and it's like ashley posted a meme about boots she didn't make an argument about policy she wasn't actually striking at his campaign or his career or anything she was just joking about a meme and immediately his communications people decide here's an

opportunity to sink him a few more points make us appear stodgy ignorant and anyone in pr knows if someone is highlighting say ronda santa's high heels, the last thing you want to do is pour gasoline on the fire and announce it to your base. It's happening. You say, no, no, no, everyone shut up and let it blow over. If you engage with it, you will make it a meme, you will make it public, and you're fueling the

fire. And look where we are now. It's only because of that. Especially with Ashley, because Ashley will now find out for sure if he's wearing lifts or not well now she will not know yeah yeah and i want to know yeah i mean she's very diligent she will find out i can't wait i me too so i i wonder if when we were all praising desantis and he was at the top of the prediction markets beating trump last year and we were were all like, he's the guy. Then Trump started coming back and picking up.

His speeches were getting better. And we're like, I think it might be Trump. And everyone said, I think it's Trump DeSantis. I'm willing to bet that the never Trump or neocon said a Trump DeSantis ticket is unbeatable. How can we stop this? Let's throw money at DeSantis and convince him he must run and he'll win. Yep. So they show all these polls, these prediction markets. in his ears you're the guy man you're the air it's not going to be trump it's going to be you and he goes you're right i should run

destroys his relationship with trump the trump base and now you have fractured maga people in florida who moved to florida for desantis fervently him. So we had this event in Miami. We just about sold out. We got to maybe like, I think, I think we were short, like we had like a hundred seats available out of 850 or something. And one of the, one of the responses we got was for a Miami event, a lot of the people here who would agree with these politics are huge DeSantis fans. And so they're like, we don't want to come and watch this because you guys rag on DeSantis or whatever. They're fervent. Look, if you're willing to move from your state to Florida because of Ron DeSantis fans. And so they're like, we don't want to come and watch this because you guys rag on DeSantis or whatever. They're fervent. Look, if you're willing to move

from your state to Florida because of Ron DeSantis, you don't want to be told you backed the wrong horse. So a lot of people are just like, no. But imagine what it would have been. Trump DeSantis was unbeatable. And now what do we have?

DeSantis wearing high heels? Yeah. This is worse than the Yeehaw. Who is that guy? And I'll tell you what, I don't see a single Oh, you mean Howard Dean? Oh yeah, Howard Dean. That's right.

I had a friend working on that campaign at the time and I remember after the it was like a yop or something like that. It was crazy. And I called my friend and I was like, yop or something like that. It was crazy. And I called my friend and I was like, what the hell? And he was like, no, we're done. We're done.

It's over. Wasn't he leading? Yeah, he was doing great. He was doing great. And then Dave Chappelle did a thing. It's crazy. I heard about this and I didn't even know the guy's name. And I just Googled like guy destroys his career with a bad sound.

And he popped up and it was really bad. It was like, yeah, I see. It was like when Michael Dukakis got in the tank. And nobody remembers that but me. But yeah, that was extreme as well. Yo, this picture's crazy. Yeah. Come on.

Levitating. I know. That's the best one for me. You can see the shadow below his foot. That is so funny. You can see the heel on the ground, but he looks like he's on his tippy toes. That's crazy. Dude, you can see the heel on the ground, but he looks like he's on his tippy toes. That's crazy, dude. Come on, bro.

Something doesn't make sense. I mean, it's kind of like they photoshopped him really well into this picture, almost. It looks fake, but it's a tweet. I don't know.

Wow, that's a good one. Someone had to have made a fake image. That can't be real. That's the thing. Could this have been photoshopped? I saw the video. I watched a video of it. We just really need to find the bootmaker.

This is custom. It really does look... When you look at the boot, it looks like this is hard plastic and this is leather. You can see the shape of his foot pressing up against it. Look at his left foot. Dude, it is...

Those are like special made well does he have like does he have one leg shorter than the other well both his legs are absurdly long if these really are his feet i don't know man i'm gonna see if they make boots for this occasion i just know i'm not voting for him because he's got weird shaped legs and looks like he's a good dude with a campaign doing everything to destroy him. That's crazy to me. Well, you know, I don't see a single DeSantis flag in Florida. This is like DeSantis' home state.

In those trailer parks, it's nothing but Trump. Trump's got the working class down locked. And DeSantis, I mean, you're right. I think that some never Trumpers, like the Bush Republicans probably got in his ear through a bunch of money behind him, said you're going to win and just go. And then really, in reality, conquer. Yep. I mean, divide and conquer makes the most sense. They know if Trump and DeSantis team up unbeatable, we need to make sure they can't.

Oh, my goodness. I think I found him. I'm looking for him, too. I'm like, boots to make me taller. What do you search for? Well, I looked at, I'm at donsfootwear.com, elevator height increase boots. And I see a pair of cowboy type boots. Maybe they're not maybe exactly the same, but. Cowboy boots. There's the Augusta 2. And there's the Cantu. There's a lot of boots that look like they would serve the purpose.

Interesting. Yeah, but his have like an inner lift to disguise. It's a discreet. Some of these do too. I don't want you to know. How do I find that? These lifted boots, but ooh. Look at elevator boots for men.

These elevator boots, elevator boots. I found them. Yeah. No, I'm looking at. I'd love to see that. Well, Crispin Glover. And there's something inside. There's something inside.

That's what I'm saying. It looks like if you've put your foot, if you've ever put a cowboy boot on, you put your foot halfway in, you put your heel against the back of the boot. You have that whole bunch of space. It looks like he's just standing in regular boots and he has like some socks underneath his feet or something like that when i search for elevator cowboy boot hidden lift a picture of ronda santos i'm at don's footwear.com that's where i am

yeah i don't know no anyway i'm sure they exist in fact yeah i'm sure it's likely so you said when you were in miami people were saying they were like hardcore desantis fans uh so we we ended up selling like we we almost sold out the whole venue we didn't quite sell at the 850 but uh in austin we sold out in a day and so so two things people said was Miami is too hard to get to because it's like the – It's all the way down there. All the way down there. And it's like, oh, okay, fair point. So even if you're in like South Carolina, you're like, that's brutal.

So we're looking at Pittsburgh and Nashville next, which is a more centralized location for people who live in the area. They can come down from different directions. But one component was we thought Miami would do really well because it is transformed so much deep red. But we did hear that there was like a lot of people are just very heavy on DeSantis and don't want to admit they backed the wrong horse or whatever. So they're just like, you know, oh, Tim's insulting DeSantis. Gotcha. What is it? Don's Footwear?

Yeah, donsfootwear.com. Oh, they're bespoke shoemaker. Is that what it is? And then we search for elevator shoes. Elevator height increased boots. Yeah. Oh, wait, elevators? You can get five inches.

Yeah. Wait, wait, elevator? Oh, look at that. Yeah. That's six inch, five inch. Plus they also do bespoke orders. They also do bespoke orders. All elevator shoes.

Three feet extra height. They look like stilts. Do you see how they... And they also do bespoke. And if you scroll down, there's cowboy boots. There's more stuff. Oh, whoa. That's crazy.

But none of these are obviously trying to hide. Wouldn't it be so funny if I just bought some of these and like, you know, just for no reason. There are. Look at the Vicaro. Decided to run for president. I'll be 6'2 tomorrow. I've always been 6'2.

What do you mean? I mean, I have some boots that are like this, but not like. Even their bottom height is associated with advantages in the professional personal lives of men. Most CEOs are about an average height. That's like, this is like, I can probably see. Women are attracted to taller men.

I can see you on this reading that. There's all those women's shoes that are like wedges on the inside only, like those weird high heel sneakers that are like high heel on the inside. That's what I think it is. Yeah, those always freak me out because it's like, you're stuck with the uncomfortableness of high heels and you don't even get the visible credit of wearing high heels. Select height increase? Look at that, select increase height whoa nice four inches yeah

and then you just get the boots dude i think we should order a pair of these for everyone in the company and just we'll do it we'll do a cast castle bit where everyone's really tall just like but everyone's like walking like they're on stilts. A little bizarre. Yeah. That's great. This company would make like 20 grand overnight. Look at this. Look at this.

There's so many. You can see how they do it. They've got like, you can see the shape on the outside. Yeah. On the inside, there's that little wedge. Yo, that's crazy. Wow, dude. There are these ads on Instagram where they sell these inserts.

You can buy them for like 20 bucks and you stick them into your shoe and then it gives you a two inch lift on your heel and your shoes are on the ground you're like you're you're on high heels but you're hiding it you're heightening and then there's like this is the commercials are funny because there's a guy same height as the girl and then they're like yo guys got a microphone he's like what do you think about this guy he's like he's all right i guess and he's like you check this out and then he puts the inserts on the guy guy? And she's like, he's all right, I guess. And he's like, here, check this out. And then he puts the inserts on the guy's shoes and he's like, now he's tall.

And she's like, oh yeah, I like it. And he's like, you don't care that he's wearing, that you know he's not really tall? And she's like, no,

I don't care. It's great. I like it. And I'm like, what happens when they get to the bedroom? These guys are going to buy it. They don't care,

I guess. Well, I mean, you don't really need to be tall in the bedroom necessarily. I mean, increase height 3.1 inches. That's crazy, dude.

Or they just keep the shoes on the whole time. That actually happened. That was another Seinfeld episode, actually. Oh, really? He was wearing hiking, but he was wearing like,

what do you call them? The Timberlands. He was wearing Timberlands. George was wearing Timberlands. Oh, it made him taller? And he would never take them off and he was like wearing Timberlands in bed.

He was wearing Timberlands to a wedding. Yeah. All right, we got to go to Super Chats. We're running behind. Before we do, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com. No members

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up the good work team and crew love what you're doing and clint came in second good second place i love this one quizby joe says i am become first smash the like button no you were third then we have uh david uh magdaleno says take that clint what you were fourth uh one evil chef says chuck norris for speaker i just watched all the expendable movies they're so awesome i love them expendables four is not as good because sylvester stallone's too old he really needed him the first three are just so so hokey and hilarious when arnold is like you'll be terminated you know when i'm back and i was like and then chuck norris walks out and like i think part two and then they make a joke like i heard

you got bit by a rattlesnake or cobra and he's like after five painful agonizing day the cobra died and then they all laugh yeah i thought it was great they tried doing part four but sylvester sloan's like 77 so it's yeah you. You know, he's still... He's looking old, man. He's become a meme a little bit. It has, definitely. Yeah. Dimadumguy says, when am I getting the TimCast branded snowboard? We're not making snowboards. What? Skateboards we can do. Yeah, that's

a lot of money. Peter Balk says, if what Epstein says about Google and Android is true, Dr. Epstein, do you think they had foreknowledge of the Hamas attack and did not say anything if so was it benign neglect or intentional to push the agenda i do not think the that uh the probability is on the side of israel having foreknowledge i believe that they were warned about something and what hamas has stated is that they only whispered among two or three people about

what they were really going to be doing going to israel and being like there may be an attack doesn't help and you want to play that game have someone be like on this date someone will break into your house good luck you're you're it's it's a defense is very very difficult but um the idea yeah i think i think israel was was did not did not know uh and i don't think they were using, um, uh, the argument that could be made for this is that the tech they did use should have been predictive of something, but if they're not using these things and they've isolated themselves from it, then the machine can't track what they're doing. So I think that was kind of the point they made, how they kept it a secret. And we talk about that, uh, war game, that famous story. You

guys probably know the name of it. I don don't where it was like an older guy and younger guys and the older guy won and it was because they wrote down their instructions on a note put it in a guy's pocket and wrote it on a motorcycle whereas the other guys were trying to spy over like communications and radio waves and that's not what they were doing it's crazy that's interesting david magdaleno says clint is indeed a worthy adversary. Till next time. Theory here, big government maintains a spending amount to collapse the dollar by 2030. I will not eat the bugs.

Neither will I. I honestly have no problem with eating bugs. It's just taking away people's options and choices and forcing them to do it. Right. I actually think like, y'all should be prepared to eat bugs not because of, you know, fake meat or living in the pod.

It's because if you truly want to survive in a conflict or in chaos, you will do what you must. Yeah. It'd be like someone like I do not eat the bugs to me means you will not take away my choice for some arbitrary reason of control. I won't be forced to. Right. But the, or I mean, look, no,

if the system collapses because they did it, it's not what I'm saying. I'm like, in that case, eat the bug, survive. You must survive. You must.

I mean, forced by somebody else. Like compelled to is better. They're not going to stand in front of a cow and say, cows are, cows are illegal now. You have to eat a bug. I'd be like,

get out of here. I'm having cow, having beef. Yeah. You know, I just order a whole bunch of builtiltong. That stuff's so good. Yeah, it's good. That South African jerky that... Oh yeah, good.

But that's my point. It would be like, imagine if, under the idea of like, I want to eat the bugs, I'm not saying, the argument is, in the context of doing what you must to survive, eat the bugs. I recommend it. Don't die.

We need you to live. We need our ideas to survive. Imagine if someone was like, I will not warm myself at the campfire i i demand you know oil heat in central you know central condition i won't live in this bulletproof pod right right it's more the demoralizing thing they want to humiliate you by eating the cricket biscuits and then taking away the real meat and cricket biscuits they don't taste good you've had one we had a we bought cricket flour and we made 50-50 cricket bread.

And the problem with cricket is that it's astringent. I'd liken the flavor to earwax. Ew. You ate it willingly. Yeah. You had to try it. Of course. I'm all about it.

I don't advocate for fake meat or bugs forced on people but i certainly think if you're someone who's like i'm not eating a bug good luck when you're when you're in a car accident in the middle of the woods you get lost and you're like oh no what do i eat it's like well you eat bugs yeah like pick up a log and find a bug and chow down because you need to survive. Like the Ferengi. Yeah, but even at that point, then you don't really have a choice. Like you can eat it or survive. Your choice is gone.

Yeah, compelled bug eating that I'm not down with. Compelled bug eating. Right. Compelling. If the government says we're making. It's not like Klaus Schwab, you eat Z-Bugs and. Yes. Oh, nothing.

Like we eat shake and you eat bugs. You're still desperate either way. Yeah, like the cricket puffs. Cricket puffs. in Canada, yeah. Well, in Canada, they have a whole industry that the government is helping boost up and they're making cricket farms and all of this stuff so that you will eat the bugs.

And there's like products already on shelves with bug puffs. They're like cheese puffs, but with bugs. Jedediah Richardson says, Ian is doing what? Props to him. I'm proud of his transformation. Yeah, he sent me a message. Let me read what he said. Let's see.

He says he's doing tactical training with Luke. Yeah, full cardio, extreme airsoft. Ian's going to come back two weeks. It's going to be two weeks. He's just going to be like massive. Yeah. Ritz wearing a cross necklace, know just oh yeah people don't understand exercise is addicting this is what i don't get like i don't understand the people who are like i don't want to exercise that's so weird to me oh i hate exercising and i do it every single day how do you hate it i don't get it maybe it's because i'm a dude. I'm just bored. I find it boring.

Oh, that's why I skate. Because skating is so fun. Yeah. I need like a better exercise. You know what? You gotta play pickleball. That's the new game of the dissident, right? You have to play pickleball.

It is. Like if you are in the right, you have to learn how to play pickleball. It's gonna be mandatory. Robbie just stood up in his living room and started screaming and pointing at the screen. See, I like a lot of sports that I don't play anymore. Like I loved skiing and swimming and all of these kinds of... Great exercise. Okay.

Biking. Now hold on there a minute. Ginger McIsaac says, how, pray tell, do you know what earwax tastes like? Are you a human being? Okay. When you were a little kid, you never like itched your ear and then later like somehow was eating something and tasted earwax. Bro, I'm not playing stupid games.

Come on. Humans have nasty stuff all over their body and like earwax and weird stuff can get on your hands or whatever when you're a kid. I once chopped a bunch of chili peppers and then four hours later itched my eye. Okay. And it's like it stays. Classic. So, yeah. That's how or I can just give you the millennial answer of,

I was at a Harry Potter convention. I was just going to mention the Bertie Botts beans. The Bertie Botts beans. Yeah, I'm okay with those. All right, let's see. What do we have? Justin Sloss says, Israel bombed the third oldest church in the world in Gaza. Well, it's a shame. I just don't believe anything that comes world in Gaza. Well, it's a shame.

I just don't believe anything that comes out of Gaza. I was reading about that and it was the IDF was looking into it and they had said that they had bombed something nearby and there was collateral damage. Yeah. Justin Amash, I think, announced that one of his relatives had died. He's a congressman who died in the Orthodox Church. Was that the same one? I think. I don't know know was it a more recent one it was an orthodox church and it was today yeah and it was uh the idf was checking it out i you know this is a this is a

this is a war situation i don't believe it i don't know what happened bro i just don't believe anything we didn't cover it because we couldn't get any real as soon as as soon as the hospital stuff happens i'm just, it's all lies. Bye-bye. Have a nice day. And they're like, you just blindly believe Israel. Well, Hamas lied about a hospital being blown up. So, yes.

Hamas also committed massive terrorism. Exactly. And now they're playing for sympathy. And I'm not really having it. I'm so over it. So over it. All right. Bender the Offenders has watched the segment with the woman complaining her college degree in marketing was essentially pointless

i never bothered going to college i went to a blue collar job instead and i have little to no debt bunch of useless degrees from these colleges college is a scam i feel bad so bad for these kids it's a video where this woman is like i have a marketing degree i can't get a job anywhere i make more money she's like all these jobs it's a. I can't get a job anywhere. I make more money. She's like, all these jobs, it's a pay cut if I want to work in marketing. I make more money serving sushi rolls. True. It's like, well, yeah, that's a tangible job with real revenue coming and going.

And like, we can track the profits on this. It's just like, she said she was almost. But here's the funny thing. She said she's almost 25 and she wants a job that pays $150 to $200. And I'm just like, man, these kids. $150 to $200 at 25? Yeah. Wow.

That'd be wild, honestly. My first job, I will say I went to school. I studied theater and philosophy, because I'm obviously very intelligent. But my first job out of college was, I was making literally $16,500 a year. Wow. That was a long time ago, right?

Yes. I mean, it was back in the 1920s, so it was a very long time ago. Well, see, when it comes to college, it's a real shame that they're pumping out communist and Marxist ideology because during COVID, we learned that we need doctors on our side. We need lawyers on our side.

We need people who are going to go get educated, get degrees and actually start making change because we aren't going to really even though I love trade schools and I think that everything has a place like we have a place to, especially in the professional arena. And I it's what do you do college for? Huh? Name a job. What do you need a college for? Name a job like being a lawyer. You have to have a well, you have to be able to pass a bar. There's one.

Well, actually, you don't actually need to. You can just read the law. Kim Kardashian was doing. Yeah, you can actually pass. I won't let you into the bar like you can pass the bar but they won't let you into like the actual bar yeah you can if you didn't pass college pretty sure you don't need to go to college to be a lawyer you need to pass the bar to make you an attorney that's true probably probably be a doctor okay medical school is medical school engineering very specific yeah engineering uh no

well no i mean i'm saying you don't have, but I don't think that an aerospace engineering company will hire you without a degree. Not true. What? I don't know. I'm not claiming it. Because I know people who did not have degrees in engineering who worked for aerospace engineering companies

out in the Mojave Desert. I know someone who tried. Mojave Spaceport. That was really cool. Yeah. That sounds cool. I think I have a video on my Instagram of it, too. So I know people who worked there and did not have degrees and were machining parts

and working on these things. All that was necessary was the capability and understanding. Degree was not required. Do you want to know when I was in college? Any job? Anybody? When I was in graduate school at Columbia University, one of my professors did not have a college degree.

Oh, really? Yep. Well, of course. He didn't have a college degree. I was giving i was giving guest lectures to phd courses with no high school diploma right after occupy wall street with the drone technology that we had developed look me and my friends hacked a bunch of drones to live stream from them nice and we were doing mobile broadcasting numerous universities had

me come in to give guest lectures to phd journalism students and i'm like i didn't go to high school and i was like how is it that i have a career that i'm now developing new technology in the space in the field covering historical events and you guys who are four years older than me have done nothing nothing and you have 100k in debt i'm just like okay do you i guess i would say medical school that's the main one yes i i don't really think of any surgeon going to a college out of all the jobs in existence like accountants don't even need to go to college like you just need to get your license actually educate yourself and figure you need a license to be a cpa yeah yeah you but you can get a license

like you can you can learn accounting you can apprentice accounting so uh what we did with the drones for those that are asking was we took the ar parrot we downloaded the software development kit the sdk and we then opened it up and started uh basically moving through uh like the the the code to see like the paths of what it was doing um and then we had we redirected its stream to a this is all rudimentary this is like the early days of live streaming so it was really ridiculous how we were pulling this off but we used a computer with a i think we had a playstation controller or an xbox controller to uh input the controls which we basically had to uh program like we had to look at

what how the controls were programmed for the phone because it was touch screen left right up down and then just associate that with the controller not not difficult at all all of this took only a few minutes and then the difficult thing was just it's all duct taped together so it like doesn't work properly until we finally worked out the bugs. I did not do the coding. I basically just, um, I did, I did a lot of the basic stuff. And then I had a friend of mine who did the more coding heavy stuff, but I did all the live stream stuff. So anything related to how we broadcast, which again, not particularly difficult. The hard part was actually looking at the code and the software development kit.

But then I got it to actually, it was a team effort. We all, we all worked on it. We actually had the drone flying around live broadcasting it was super cool and uh yeah for those that are asking and then because of that someone wrote that i built a blimp which i never did and it made it to wikipedia that i invented a zeppelin and then no matter how many times i said i did not invent a zeppelin they called it the drone stream where the drone stream and then the zeppelin had some name and i'm'm like, we didn't do this. And then it took like seven years

to get it removed from Wikipedia. But then I decided a couple of years ago, I'm going to make it retroactively true. So then we did. And then they refused to reinstate the article

claiming I did because it was false, even though it's true now. Wow. That's fun. Anyway. Yeah. So my point about college is

I have too many friends who have moved towards communism because of their debt demanding joe biden get elected because they're in debt and they want the debt relieved yeah too many people who can't get jobs because the jobs can't pay enough to cover their debt and the debt did nothing for them right it's almost like that was planned there's no whole point to put them in debt so they have to they didn't say oh everything's unfair i can't get a job i can't work they have to become quote unquote marxist in order to say like i deserve money guys yeah right but also you know when we signed away like the we're

like 18 years old signing away huge debts like that we didn't know that it was a racket really and then they also like at the same time are bringing in all these migrants who were forcing americans and american students to compete against as cheap foreign labor pushing our wages down like the the system is stacked against us and it really is and you know i think that i'm gonna get probably hit for this but i do agree in some form of student loan relief or forgiveness program in a way where people can pay back their debt fairly. I think that there is a way

because a lot of people didn't sign. I think all interest should be abolished. I think that's fair. Student loan debt interest is insane the way that it compounds. We should go and look at all the loans and subtract all interest from the point

of the loan from the remainder of it and then if it exceeds what you've already paid you get a tax credit towards that remaining balance so let's say let's say you took out a loan for 50 grand and because of the interest you've paid back 80 and still owe 70 so we say all interest is gone which means you're in excess of $30,000 of your loan. We'll apply that to your future taxes. And that way you must pay back what you were given and what you spent,

but the interest is predatory. And that's the compromise. That way nobody gets a freebie. You still got to pay back what you borrowed, but we do recognize this was bunk and BS. Yes. And seize college endowments so that it depends on like the success of the student to make

sure they get paid back. Because right now it doesn't matter. They can send a student off and they fail at life and it doesn't matter. They're losing all this now, though, because of their support for Hamas. So all these billionaires and millionaires are like, we are no longer going to be contributing. Have a nice day. I think the universities should pay off the student loan debt with their endowments. I just think the interest.

I like that. Just the interest. I think the individual must pay what they got. We can argue, yes, we'll forgive student loan debts with the endowments. That still means a bunch of leftist communists got 50 grand for free. Yeah, there's no need for that either. Well, so the idea is if you got fifty thousand dollars and then bought things with it you got a degree that degree is valuable right okay you bought food you paid

rent you must pay back the value that you were gifted but the interest is is is predatory so uh yeah seize the endowments cover the cost of all the interest from the endowments and then the individual must pay back their principal yeah i took out student loans just so that i didn't have to work full time while I was in grad school. Did you pay them back? Yeah. Well, there you go. You would get a credit for all that torture taxes.

That'd be nice. The interest. That'd be nice. I know people who were like, I took out $70,000 in loans and I owe $100,000 right now after paying 80. I'm like, what? Yeah, it's messed up. It is predatory.

And also the whole corporate structure is rigged against conservatives. It is so hard for a white male, like a straight white male to move up on the ladder because because they're competing against H1B visa workers who come in, who will work twice as long for half as much. We can't compete. So I think that this both like there's a there's a win win strategy here where you hire American first. You know, you don't make them compete with cheap foreign labor. You pay them a fair wage. And yeah, then we could pay our debts back without interest i liked that very much you know and that is possible but i think there is a way forward that is fair for everybody to pay their student loan debt or be able to afford it and have jobs and working lives like you know conservatives we all work for a living we all have jobs for a living these left

wing people like they a lot of them sit at home and don't do work. There are, of course, I'm not speaking for the majority of them, but the college students who are complaining because they can't afford their student loans, they didn't really try, and they don't really have jobs. I want to read two more here. CVA Buck says, I'm sorry, Jeff Bader says,

electrical engineering, try being one without a degree. And then CVA Buck, just after him, says, I'm a senior engineer at a nuclear power plant with no degree. 10 years Navy nuke experience plus industry certifications, just now working on degree. One of the funniest things that I think was ever said to me was after Occupy Wall Street, I get featured in a bunch of magazines. I get featured in Times Person of the Year, one of six features.

I was featured in Times, nominated for Times 100 Most Influential People. Not that we care about the mainstream media. It's just like the industry is giving me these accolades. It's featured in GQ, six-page spread, front page featured story, featured in Maxim Spin, getting all this stuff like, wow, look at the journalism he's doing, the new technology and everything. And then I had family members being like,'m gonna go to college now and i was like i'm i'm in the magazine for the futuristic work and the transformative nature of what i'm doing why are you asking me to go to college it's just in it's this mentality is

insane to me yeah i remember i had a i had a very different i had like a like a perspective shift um this was ages ago at this point. But my mom, I went to school for art. I was like doing theater arts and whatever other stupid stuff I was doing. And my mom always hated it. And she was always very critical of like the work I was doing. She was like, oh, you know, you're working really hard and you're not making any money. And your brother's making all this money and whatever else.

And then I stopped doing that and I started doing this, like journalism and editing and all of this kind of stuff. And she was like, honey, why are you doing that? That's not such a great thing for you to do. And I was like, oh, I will never please

the people who want me to do something different. So I'm going to not worry about it ever again. I was a director at a nonprofit, which is a job that requires a degree. You'll never find one that doesn't. And I don't have a degree. There's no reason for a degree to be a director of a not-for-profit.

They have their arguments, but all of these companies are like, degree required in these fields. And I'm like, I don't have one. And it's just like, if you're- Yeah, well, they require it, but it really doesn't require the degree in order to do the job. Like, I'd rather have somebody with And it's just like if you're- Yeah, well, they require it, but it really doesn't require the degree in order to do the job.

Like I'd rather have somebody with experience, 10 years experience, rather than a four-year degree that they just came out. I think this is the difference between like boomers, Gen X and millennials. Gen X and millennials are more likely to say, I don't care about a degree, can you do the job? Boomers are more likely to say, get a degree.

And we'll go a little bit over, but I just want to wrap this one up. In my perspective on this is that boomers didn't need degrees because after the greatest generation, after the World War II, we had this tremendous economy. We had this massive manufacturing base.

And so the economy was really, really great. So if you were a high school graduate, you could have a family. If you went to college, you'd make six figures back then, a lot of money. What happens then is a bunch of young boomers see their college grad friends making six figures and they're like, damn, I should have went to college. College is what makes you money. When in reality, if you don't need to go to college, if everyone around you

can survive a high school diploma and you say, no, I'm going to college, it was likely because you were pursuing a passion. You were chasing something you you really wanted to learn about computers or whatever your passion is why you made six figures not the college degree but the people who didn't go thought it was the degree itself told all their kids to get it millennials then started going to get degrees gen xers were just like i don't care if you have a degree dude can you do the job right and so that's where we are now but we'll wrap it up there because we're going a little late. Gen Xers are still like that, I will say. Right.

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