Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #888 Biden CUTS SPEECH As Iran ATTACKS US Targets, WWIII Trending w/Preston Parra

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial), & Serge join Preston Parra to discuss Joe Biden cutting a press conference short to rush to the situation room, the US increasing its shipment of missile defense systems to the middle east & Putin suffering cardiac arrest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, In the middle of a press conference, Joe Biden cut it short saying he had to go to the Situation Room to deal with something, And that something is reportedly Iran striking numerous U.S. military bases in Iraq and Syria. We've got reporting now from Israel that Iran was involved in the attacks that we saw from Hamas. The U.S. is deploying the THAAD missile system into the region. And many journalists note that Hezbollah and Hamas do not have ballistic missiles. The THAAD system is, I believe it's Missile Defense System.

It's for stopping and intercepting. It's kind of like the Iron Dome. So it looks like we are gearing up for war with Iran. Call it World War III, whatever. Trending on Twitter, on X, World War III. We'll talk about this. And a lot of stories in this area. It looks like we're gearing up for global war.

A lot of news reports coming out that China is preparing for the same thing. And it looks like whether anyone wants it to or not, and I assume there are a lot of people who want it to, this is where we're headed. Before we get started, my friends, head over to TimCast.com and click join us to become a member and support our work directly. If you like the work we do, if you like this show, if you think we should continue doing it, we need your support. This show is almost entirely supported by members.

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Also go to Casper.com, buy our coffee. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Preston Parra. Hey, nice to meet you. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, who are you? What do you do? I like to consider myself like an America First crusader for Christ. I work with a number of campaigns and legislators throughout the country to kind of invoke and push forward the America First agenda. I joined the Army right out of high school, finished that up, and now I'm just focused on doing what I can from social media and journalism and just working with some of these folks to really enact the America First Agenda. Right on. Well, thanks, Frank. That should be fun. We got Hannah Clare Brimelow hanging out. Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for

TimCast.com. It's the best news site alongside the Postmillennial because Libby's here. Hey, thanks, Hannah Clare. I'm Libby Evans. I'm filling in for Ian again, which is awesome. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and humanevents.com. And I am Serge.com. We miss you, Ian. Come back.

Let's get started, Tim. Here's the story from Sky News. President Joe Biden cuts press conference short as White House confirms Iran actively facilitating some attacks on U.S. military bases in Iraq and Syria. I just love the language, how it's so like passive and confused. Iran actively facilitating some attacks. OK, look, is Iran attacking the U.S. or not? I think the issue is they want to cede the information. That's how it usually happens. They want to gear us up for the moment when they announce troops are going to be deployed

specifically to fight with Iran. We've already seen members of Congress say they're drafting an authorization for use of military force against Iran and their proxies, whatever proxies means. And it seems like this is going to bubble to World War III. On Twitter, World War III is trending. Here's the clip. I want to play this clip for you. It's quite simple.

It's only a few seconds long. And when Malcolm Flex has it, Biden cuts his speech short as the attacks are happening. Can't confirm if it's casual or not. Here we go. We got sound, right? I apologize. I have to go to the situation room with another issue. I have to do it.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So that's it. It's rather uneventful other than to say, in the middle of a press conference, he announced he was going to have to go to the situation room because we've got these,

this report, Malcolm Flex is tweeting, groups with ties to the Iranian militias claim they've attacked with rockets, three bases in northeast Syria, Al Omar, al-tanf and al-shadadi could be a tell as far as where Iran and probably Iran loyal militant states in the area stand okay well I hope you're all ready for world war three and uh how are you doing I learned that if you have taken anti-depressant anti-anxiety medication in the last, over the last 12 months or for a cumulative 36 months in the last couple of years, you can't be drafted.

So I think a lot of women are not going to be drafted as we head into World War III. So men, I hope you're ready. Gen Z especially. Nah, there's so much. Big Pharma is going to save the day, right? Well, it is our great hope and savior. What would we do without Big Pharma? That's really interesting because women don't get drafted anyway women don't have to register for selective service no they don't only if you're a man who's dressed like a woman then you have to

register for yeah they haven't gotten around that loophole yet which is kind of funny uh yeah well because biden came there was a report last year that um the biden administration was saying that trans women do have to register for selective service so all you draft dodgers that are buying skirts right now don't worry it's not gonna work yeah just get on the ssris instead well it's funny because uh i there was this poll that came out about the israel pal israel palestine conflict and i guess 18 to 24 overwhelmingly are in favor of Palestine and Hamas. And I say and Hamas because

I am not trying to say they're the same thing. I'm actually drawing the distinction. Many of these leftists are cheering on Hamas explicitly. That's what I'm trying to point out. You know, and it's because of that, the U.S. is getting its ever so desperate Casus Belli for Iran. The U.S. military industrial complex, deep state, whatever, has wanted war with Iran

the entire time I've been alive. All right. And so now because of this fight, you know, Hamas going into Israel, killing all these civilians, Israel's released footage. It's horrifying footage, man. Some of it's only been described. Some of it, there is video they released. I watched's released footage. It's horrifying footage, man. Some of it's only been described. Some of it, there is video they released. I watched some of it.

It's crazy. And now, this is the funny thing the U.S. likes to do. Hamas attacks Israel. And so all of a sudden, they're like, you mean Iran? We have to go to war with Iran? No, no, no. We're talking about Hamas. You mean, so Iran?

We're going to go, we're invading Iran? All right, let's send the troops to Iran. It's like, what? no, we're talking about Hamas. You mean, so Iran? We're going to go, we're invading Iran? All right, let's send the troops to Iran. It's like, what? Okay, I guess. But now they're basically saying that all of this is actually Iran. Iran's the one funding it. Iran's the one planning it.

It's like, okay, well then fine. I guess we're going to World War III. Well, Iran was reported by the Wall Street Journal to have been in a meeting with Hamas and Hezbollah just the Monday before the attack, saying that it was reported that Iran greenlit the attack at that point, and then Iran denied it later. But Iran has been backing Hamas for a very long time. Iran has been backing Hamas since Israel kicked out a bunch of terrorists and sent them to Lebanon where they got trained by Hezbollah

and the uh what is it the Iranian guard what are they called I forget but um the IGF the IGF yeah the IGF and they were getting trained so Hamas got trained by Hezbollah and the IGF in Lebanon before they um became Hamas in the late 80 So this would mean that Russia should be declaring war on the United States explicitly? Perhaps. Ukrainian forces are funded, armored, trained by US and EU forces. And if the argument from the United States

is that we have to go to war with Iran because they've trained Hamas, then Russia would need to declare war on the United States, right? This argument is, you know, have your cake and eat it too. Yeah, it's the US's own version version of it's okay when we do it. Right, exactly.

It's ridiculous. I mean, I think part of it is that we always knew there was a very slim chance that this wouldn't expand regionally, that other countries nearby would get involved. And I think you're right with this headline. They're trying to sort of preemptively set up the argument for why America needs to get involved in this war, which I just don't think is necessarily the best case scenario for anyone. And I understand that we have allies, we have relationships diplomatic with Israel and everyone else in the region. On the other hand, we create all of these problems and then we say, oh, well, don't worry, we'll come fix it. I don't know. President, did you do anything exciting when you were in the Army?

No, no, I didn't. Right when I joined, really, the COVID pandemic hit and they enforced the COVID vaccine. And that's kind of why I'm out now. Oh, wow. Yeah. So no, I didn't get to do much. What was your role? What was your job?

88, Mike. I was actually going to do green to gold where I could enlist to become a JAG officer. That's what the whole plan was until it got kind of sidestepped by the vaccine. Oh, wow. Well, here we are. I'm not I wonder that's actually a really interesting point you bring up because we're talking about the draft, too. But how many good men and we in terms of recruitment goals not just because of the vaccine but because of wokeness and politics in general i guess the conspiracy theory is the reason the u.s is is allowing all these people to cross the border

into the country is that they're going to offer citizenship to be frontline infantry or something which you know i don't know if that's effective but i do kind of know anybody who's played any one of these strategy video games like world of warcraft or starcraft or whatever you just mass produced the lowest quality fighter and just non-stop send them wave after wave after your enemies you win so like you can have all the nukes all the jets all the satellites you want but if your ground army is bigger you win and you know your willingness to sacrifice them but in that capacity the u.s has technology but they don't have people sure no they don't and the the thing about military recruitment goals is that we've been behind for a long time so there are people who left like

you're saying because of uh the covid vaccine there are now also people who will not enlist because of the covid vaccine and so on top of the issues that we're already having with a population that is not qualified to be a part of the military those who are so on top of the issues that we're already having with a population that is not qualified to be a part of the military, those who are willing to enlist and who will enlist is, it's just this extremely small margin. I don't like the idea

that we would just be like, oh, well, you came here illegally, but to give you citizenship, we'll let you enlist in the army. I think that's not a logical justification. But if you're about to say things are very desperate, we need boots on the ground, you're sort of creating a worst case scenario and then delivering the solution

that is imperfect in and of itself. Well, that's kind of the strategy they use, like recruiters use to bring people into the military. I know my recruiters at least would, it's kind of like a running joke on TikTok too, where people will go to like Home Depot and pick up illegals to join the military and they'll offer them, you know, citizenship. So they'll join. But just in my personal experience, all the good folks, all the people who, you know, were meant to be in the military, there wasn't a lot of them left. And I know that during my basic training in AIT, which is like advanced training for your job. We had people, the treatment of people and their standards was unbelievable. Women were, you know, like we had some people in there that were like 5'2", couldn't carry the load for themselves.

We would go on ruck marches that were really 12 miles long, and they would end up falling out, and they would get put in a truck and get driven back, or they couldn't shoot what you were supposed to shoot, what the standard was, and they would end up falling out and they would get put in a truck and get driven back and or they couldn't shoot what you were supposed to shoot what the standard was and they would pass them anyway why would they pass because they have to fill these spots yeah are they just creating cannon fodder basically this is the other thing that's happening is that recruitment all of the numbers are actually off from what i know from people who are enlisted right now is that they are using like they are you shifting data to pad their numbers because they are so far behind in recruitment goals i mean it's not good but once you get into the army they need to keep you there so the what i've heard from a lot of people

and this goes back well before the culture war stuff that in basic training the men like you're you're the the clothes they give you what are the pts is that what they're called filthy and dirty as you're like crawling through the mud. You don't watch them. You take them off. You wake up. You eat as fast as you can. You get back to it.

The women would cry, complain, sit down, refuse to walk any further because it hurts too much and then be told, don't worry, it's fine. Like you mentioned,

get trucked to drive from the rest of the way. They couldn't carry anything. They were mandated to be able to get showers and clean clothes every day. And the argument was medical. Women have medical reasons where they're required to have clean clothes and so the men are

being like thrown into the into the muck and told figure it out and the women are being given this this like hospital four-star treatment these are all reasons that i never would have joined the military well and they also like showers and clean clothes no no you get them women get them men don't yeah that's that's ridiculous they got complacent with the low standards, a lot of the girls, and they would literally walk the two mile runs. Well, what I was told is that if they tell the women you can't have a shower, it's discrimination based on sex because women have special needs. And so they have to get showers.

Then they shouldn't be allowed to join the military. Right. And if they hold the women at the same standards as the men, well, that's sexist because men and women are different even though now the argument is that men and women aren't different if you look at the uh which is it the bostock decision if you look at the bostock decision it's sexual discrimination to not give the men showers yeah but to give the women showers it would be that would be described that's discriminatory well the point is whenever everybody gets showers on the battlefield, come on, Tim.

Anything that doesn't benefit the left is discrimination until it benefits them. Then it's balanced. So, like, if you say they'll come out, they'll say men and women are the same. Therefore, you know, trans people should be in women's sports. Everyone should be equal. And then you go, OK, military training, equality. That's not fair. Men and women are different.

Women can't care as much as men. So they get special treatments. Oh, you just men and women weren't different i just think they're different so the issue is the left simultaneously argues both positions this is why i often say there's no morality on the left there is none yeah the left does not have a moral position they have a give me power yeah so in the military women don't run not all of them you know some women do most but right you know so so this is an interesting point about where we're currently at in recruitment goals. It's probably worse than we realize. The military is probably the whole bunch of like 22-year-old women with two moms. Yeah.

I think it's not good. That's in their advertising. That's the thing. They'll throw a bonus at you, $20,000 to join, but their standards are ridiculous. And I even had a girl in front of me on one March specifically, and she was crying because the load was too much for her to carry. She was, again, like 5'2". So I tried to lift her rucksack up with my hands the whole way there. But it's like you can't have that kind of situation on the battlefield.

And so I just think it's kind of sad that that's where we've gotten to as a country. I've heard arguments before that they need to revisit some of their standards, like this thing about anxiety medication, right? Like if you've taken anxiety medication during these parameters, you're disqualified from military service. So it means that some people just don't report it or, you know, I've heard a lot of special forces people say, I just lied. I lied my way through it because I wanted really badly to make it and I am qualified other than these sort of, you know, rules they felt were arbitrary. But in some cases, you know, the idea of being battle ready is very important. And I think we saw this with, you know, letting women in the military, the physical standard at which they are expected to meet has to be lowered because women

are different biologically and physiologically than men. And so ultimately in pursuit of what we think is best at home, are we actually putting people in foreign fields in a battle ready situation where the people around them can protect them? I just don't think so. Well, and also that shouldn't really be what's going on in a battlefield. Everyone should be there to do their best and not need to be protected by their peers.

The other thing though is like, I think it's normal to have people looking out for each other yeah you look out for each other but like you can't look out for someone who can't look out for you yeah for sure you know like if the five foot two woman who can't carry her own pack like how's she gonna look after preston she's not that's the problem so you're not allowed to have taken ssris and anxiety medication for a certain period of time but you are allowed to be taking cross-sex hormones no no no no no no they give you the cross-sex hormone oh they give you those of course that's the benefit of signing up okay that's like your rations you know that's your rations got it let's jump to

this from the new york times u.s sends more missile defense systems to middle east i love this headline because they don't want to actually uh give you the headline that explains we're about to go to world war three the latest deployment is in response to growing threats from iran and its allies in the region president biden has warned iran to not join the war against hamas why would iran join a war against hamas see the new york times phrases these things in very interesting ways so they're sending a thad battery which is uh i don't know if they have what it stands for. It's something high altitude aerial defense or something like this. I forgot what the first one is. You're sending THAAD battery

and additional Patriot battalions to its most powerful weapons against missiles to the region. In a statement Sunday, blah, blah, blah, they're going to be sending a lot more. And we have this from Bloomberg. U.S. vows to hold Iran responsible for attacks on troops in Mideast. Pentagon spokesman places blame even without a direct

order u.s is moving more forces weapons and ships to the region so we already had 19 000 we're moving up to 21 000 active personnel in the region i think six uh well washington post reported 4 000 marines and sailors with 2 000 troops i guess more marines so i don't know what how many of those individuals are specifically for ground combat. It says the U.S. ramped up its rhetoric toward Iran, saying it would hold Tehran accountable for drone and rocket attacks on U.S. troops by its proxies in the Middle East, even as Washington tries to avert a wider regional war. They keep saying that.

Is Washington actually trying to avert anything? No. I don't think so. You've got folks like nicky haley that are just you know just they just want us to go to war they've got raytheon in their closet and we shouldn't be involved at all you know biden shouldn't be making statements it and really any republican who calls himself america first should not be advocating for any action whatsoever in the middle east we have our own problems here we don't need to worry about abroad

we've got veterans killing themselves i think it's 16 a day. Young men killing themselves at astronomical rates more than any other demographic in the country. We don't need to be over there. And especially in a situation where you've got two sides of it, where both are committing atrocity. And I think most people just want peace. But even if you say you want peace, if you say you want to ceasefire, folks like Ben Shapiro will say that you're a pro-terrorist. And so it's really unfortunate. And if you're going to be America first, you cannot be pro involvement in the Middle East at all. So THAAD is Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, formerly known as Theater High Altitude Area Defense. So that's what it stands for. I remember

when I was in South Korea, they had a bunch of people protesting saying no thad and the argument was that the u.s was going to deploy the thad system and to be able to respond to uh north korea north korean ballistic missile attacks but as as i mentioned in the earlier segment many journalists are saying hezbollah and hamas don't have this so the u.s is just gearing up for war with iran i think a lot of these news stories a lot of them are intentionally, they're seeding. They're a little bit of spice in the news to be like, get you used to it.

War with Iran, war with Iran. That way, when something happens, because now we've got conversations about sleeper cells, Hamas sleeper cells in the United States. The U.S. is trying to connect Hamas to Iran as much as they can because of what just happened in Israel. Now we've got reports, Kevin McCarthy, Ron DeSantis have been warning about this. They're saying Hamas has sent sleeper cells to the southern border. The next thing that happens

is some kind of false flag or just an outright attack from Hamas. And then they say, see, that was Iran. Yeah, I think ultimately that is the direction. I also think it's very difficult for the American people to keep up with all of the moving parts there are so many moving parts so many parts and they're they share a complicated intertwined regional history that we just are blind to in a lot of ways we don't really know it we don't really know that history we know you know but what's interesting though and this is some research i was doing uh over the weekend actually and last week um the history that we know of israel and the middle east is given to us primarily and given to our students by textbooks and those textbooks were um created most of them after 9-11 at this point and they were heavily influenced by like the center for Islamic Education that talked to the publishers and the

textbook companies and made sure to have very positive views of Islam and very negative views of Judaism and Christianity. So when you see all of these high school students staging walkouts of like, you know, saying like, you know, free Palestine and like stand with Gaza and all of this stuff, they have been taught that in their history classrooms. That is what they have learned directly, and they have learned that directly because that's within the textbooks. These are textbooks that were adopted in California,

and because California is such a huge market for educational materials, once it's in those textbooks, that's what's disseminated across the rest of the country. It downplays jihad. It downplays the concept of from the river to the sea, which is the eradication of Israel.

It downplays Sharia law as something that just means get closer to God. It downplays the modesty laws and all of that stuff. I did like a, I was reading in these textbooks, it even downplays the Islamic conquestlamic conquest and it says that

islam spread it doesn't say that islam i'm not saying it's for the sword it doesn't say that it's spread by the water it just naturally and it also says like that because that it's part of islam that you can't convert people on purpose and so therefore it's peaceful and it lives it lives uh islam lives in harmony with other religions without actually mentioning the the horrifying wars the like yeah you know all of that stuff what the cultural implications right are i mean there's this story right now about this 16 year old girl yeah we heard that today at human events yeah she was uh uh beaten because over she wasn't wearing her hijab correctly, I believe. Oh, yeah.

She's in a vegetative state. Dragged from a train. Right. She's in a vegetative state. I assume will not make it, which is extremely tragic. But in America, we get to say like, oh, it's just a different culture. We don't know what it's like there. It's gross. We would not let this happen here, I hope.

But we do let it happen here. It's worse. I mean, there's honor killings in the U.S. Yeah, there are, but we don't talk about them. Yes, but hold on. While there are many stories like that, there are women being victimized and beaten in the streets and men as crime is running rampant. We're now seeing like CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens and all these stores, 1,500 stores are closing

over the rampant crime. So when we talk about, oh, it's so awful that someone didn't wear her job and she was beaten you're absolutely right it's horrible and then we have the story of the woman on the train in philadelphia who was raped and everyone just watched it happen right then you have the story of the guy in new york city who saw the dude threatening the lives of people on the train and said i gotta stop this guy with three two other dudes and then they tried to lock him up yeah they're still trying to lock they're still trying to lock him up yeah they're so we're like we would never let it happen here and here's a guy who tried to save the lives of people on a train.

And one woman said that man saved our lives and the police are locking him up in jail. So we got those problems. I don't think it's that we don't let bad things happen here. It's just the specific modesty laws don't exist here the same way, except when they're enforced culturally. But we got it the other direction. I know this is the problem. I mean, it's like we have the mirror image to the Iran problem.

Iran's problem is they're beating women for not working a job. They shouldn't be doing that. And then they kill this young woman. There's protests. And then the United States, the inverse, where they're putting these lewd and lascivious books in schools. And we're like, man, where's the middle ground? Like, let women wear, you know, sexy clothes, but don't give kids these books with graphic material. And it's weird because the same progressives that are saying, yes, put those books in school are the same ones chanting in favor. Right.

Exactly. Right. Right. Exactly. They would be like the first ones on the wall. If Hamas was had anything to say, they could never survive in this, this culture.

They're out. The left tried arguing this a long time ago that Trump supporters had a lot in common with like Al Qaeda and like Muslim terrorists or whatever. Like dude, if Hamas did come over here and it was just like some some like regular Palestinian guy on a street corner and he started expressing his opinions on LGBTQ stuff and wokeness. A lot of conservatives would be like, I completely agree with those positions. Then, of course, the guy would say something like throw him off a roof or whatever, something horrifying. And the Trump support would be like, yo, bro, what's wrong with you? That's crazy.

That's like way too far for us. But so many of these left wing activists are cheering for a group that, as you all mentioned, would either lock them up for 10 years at the law in Gaza. Being gay is a 10 year prison sentence or something substantially worse. Yeah, I think I think a lot of them are definitely uneducated on, you know, what goes on in Palestine, but I do understand some of their gripes. And I think that, you know, you talk about the textbook things. I've heard reports of textbooks being infiltrated with Zionist, you know, certain angles. And I'm Jewish and, you know, I don't want that. I want my students in my country learning, you know, real truth and, you know, not, you know, that's tampered with by some special interest. And so, and I think that's why a lot of Americans,

especially Christian Americans, are kind of entranced with the fact that we must go to war, we must go defend Israel. And listen, I want there to be peace more than anyone, but I don't think we should get involved with a conflict at all that's foreign i think we should be focusing on our issues here like the guy in the subway and um and i and i just think that americans are so funny as at least christian americans and especially those who call themselves conservatives when they say let's not go to ukraine quit sending my lunch money to ukraine and then the second israel gets attacked they want to send the kitchen well israel is a really long-standing ally. And I

get that. I get that. But when that long-standing ally is committing war crimes... Israel was attacked. Right. They were attacked and that shouldn't have happened. And I think that it's under questionable circumstances as well because even Charlie Kirk pointed out that when it happened, there was a seven-hour stop order

ordered by Netanyahu. He didn't say that definitively, though. Right. In which he was attacked right after, too. But Charlie said I wonder if someone gave a seven hour stop order ordered by netanyahu he didn't say that definitively though right in which he was attacked right after too but charlie said i wonder if someone gave a stand-on order because how did they not know this well in egypt warned him apparently too but also yeah but egypt said something big might happen right which is not a warning of anything it's not it's not we don't we don't know what the specific intelligence what it was and i also think it is tough because there is you you can draw a benefit to netanyahu specifically uh and the stability of of israel from the crisis a unifying crisis we saw this with the project for a new american century back in like 2001 or whatever a new pearl

harbor would rally the american people but i don't think that creates a circumstance in which the simple solution is israel knew it was going to happen let it happen because the damage and devastation to israel is 1000 times greater than whatever they were they were they were experiencing yeah and i don't think it's a i think it's definitely a corruption issue and that was what netanyahu was like under investigation for in the first place he was about to he was under indictment and he was about to face trial for it and a war happens to happen right in his backyard, right when he needed it to. And I just think it's a little bit odd.

And I think that when you have Mossad, which is one of the world's most advanced intelligence agencies, how did they not pick up that their most angered neighbor was not going to attack them? I just don't buy it. I don't buy it. But I don't see any evidence to the contrary either. And I think the issue i take with it is i can tell you you know because i was talking earlier about cassandra fairbanks a bunch of a bunch of conservatives are really angry they're very pro-israel and i'm like dude the the uh this company and the work that i do

is not predicated predicated upon the history of gaza and israel right and so what ends up happening is you have these people who for some reason have a large portion of their identity rooted in which side is correct and which side is wrong true and so they'll come out and they'll assert one side has you know it's funny because they're like you know it's it's historically palestine therefore is you know israel is the occupying force and then the other people are like it was judea and it was like jerusalem the holy land are you crazy and i'm just like like, I can tell you it's not America. And I'm not from there. That's my thing.

So I don't know, man. There have been, there's been violence and conflict over this region for a really long time, including in recent years prior to October 7th. I'm not saying that Israel shouldn't be able to defend itself. Of course it should. On the other hand, similarly to the conflict that's been ongoing between russia and ukraine for a long time is this in the americans american people's best interest to wade into a war which we have very little cultural understanding of and at the same time make worse like joe biden's saying yes gaza i will give you money also israel i'll send

some troops in we don't know what side we're going to be on and ultimately we're not going to make anyone happy we're only going to ask I certainly hope we know what side we're going to be on I certainly hope we're going to be on the side of our allies our allies are committing war crimes what war crimes are they committing? well if you're seeing the reports of white phosphorus being so you're taking Hamas' word for it?

no no no but I'm taking reports on the ground you know I'm Jewish and I just don't want anyone I don't want atrocity being conducted against anybody. I don't want any No, not at all. But I don't want any innocents to die. And I'm seeing white phosphorus being rained down and one in 20 buildings in Gaza are leveled. And you're seeing more bombs being dropped on Gaza than were dropped in the entire first year in the Afghanistan war. And those are war crimes, okay? Because when you have- What is a war crime though? What does that mean? Collective punishment defined by the Geneva Convention is to punish an entire group of people, innocent people for the crimes of especially this terror group.

It's the government, though. Hamas was elected to lead the government. But there hasn't been a fair election in a decade. But I think we pulled this up to the recent surveys show that 51 percent of people in Gaza support Hamas. And so, yeah, I'm not going to blame the civilians. There's a lot of really awful videos that are coming out, but I'll tell you exactly where I'm at. I don't know anything about the region for the most part.

I mean, obviously, I do know a bit about the region, but I have no vested interest in the outcome in the region. I am not here to be like the history of Israel, Israel this, Israel that, or Palestine this, Palestine that. I can tell you that on October 7th, a horrifying terror attack occurred in which Hamas tore through the fences, went in and started massacring civilians. Israel's released some of this footage. We got a bunch of this footage. And then what I end up hearing from people is, yeah, well, I bet Israel knew. And I'm like,

how did we shift from, we quite literally have video of civilians being gunned down in their car and people burning down homes and children being killed. And the response immediately is, yeah, but I bet Netanyahu knew about it because he was doing it to benefit himself. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We are so far from that conversation. The conversation is right now. Israel was attacked. Innocent civilians were killed.

Max Blumenthal came on and said Hamas targeted the civilians because it's opportunistic for them it's part of their doctrine to target civilians to use as as bargaining chips against israel and then after that is the beginning and opening premise i have people complaining about israel and i'm like yeah you know yeah israel's probably don't do a lot of bad stuff it's it's it's this is what happens when you declare war on someone. Hamas declared war on Israel. Israel is the powerhouse with the fourth most powerful army, so they say, with support from Western powers, and Hamas decided to declare war. Now, a lot of people then go, yeah, well, you know, it's an open-air prison and blah, blah, blah. I'm like, you lost me already. I am not Israel. I am

not Palestine. I am the United States of America. I am an individual here, and I can't tell you about the history of the region. I can tell you if they did not tear down those fences, storm in and massacre a thousand plus civilians, there would not be bombings in Gaza. That's right. Does not mean Israel should be indiscriminately targeting anybody. But then the argument from the pro-Israel side is we are not just trying to target and we are not trying to take out civilians. And then I can tell you this. After all the dust settles, Hamas and the left have lied about almost everything. So when someone comes, says Israel's engaged in war crimes, I go hospital.

And they go, yeah, but the hospital hospital was fake. They lied. It didn't happen. And we were so busy, tricked into arguing over who did it. We never stopped to ask ourselves, did it even happen? And the answer was it did not. Well, from the beginning of the conflict, I've been saying nothing, but I want peace. I condemn Hamas. I even went as far as saying F Hamas on my Twitter. And, but I, but I think things still have to be pointed out. Israel is a formalized government.

Palestine is not, nobody takes the Palestinian government serious. So when, you know, bombs are being dropped on residential buildings in Gaza, you have to point that out. And if you say that Hamas is using those to protect whatever they have there inside, well, you know, Israel is very capable of going in with insurgent teams and getting out or killing whoever they need to. The West supplies them with a ton of money and a ton of training with our armed forces. And so I think they're perfectly capable of going in. I don't see a need for leveling an entire building. And the problem is, I don't think you'd see the reaction that you're talking about if you didn't have evangelical Christians on Twitter saying,

glass Gaza, you know, make it a parking lot. Like this incendiary rhetoric that just has no care for human regard because it's more about humanity than anything. I could care less if it's Israeli or Palestinian. It's about humanity. And people are being killed at rates you've never seen before. 2014, 88 Israelis died and 2,329 Palestinians died. No one was calling it, no one was calling, you know,

what's going on over there in the Middle East, we should get involved. I don't think comparing the total number of dead answers the question of what, how, or why, and does not indicate justification or... I just don't like how the media covers it differently, because the first time you have an Israeli attack, then it's like, oh my gosh, the world's ending World War III, but Palestinians have been being killed for years and you're having no coverage of it and that's that statistic i just gave you that's one israeli for every 27 palestinians but that doesn't mean anything well it does to me because for a decade 20 times more palestinians have been killed so when you say why all right so but hold on uh who are these palestinians they're innocents civilians how do but like so this is the issue i take with

it i am the united states i am not israel palestine i know that hamas just invaded killed a whole bunch of civilians right israel has responded hamas lied about a hospital being leveled and 500 people dying totally fabricated hamas is wrong and so now the premise any point you initiate uh israel's blunt buildings lie not interested prove it i i took hamas at face value boy was that a mistake when they said it was an israeli airstrike we were actually arguing like wow could it have been an airstrike i mean we don't we don't even know i mean oh oh man and then it was a hamas rocket likely misfired and then the payload dropped into a parking lot killing killing people well that's the thing maybe that it was 10 to 50 people and maybe maybe it was a parking lot we have no idea but that's so look look that's those are the

reports so then i hear yeah but what about white phosphorus bro i'm sorry but the people marching through the street who are saying from the river to the sea who have who lied about this hospital get zero benefit of the doubt from me and that means the only word i have is israels and i don't even trust them well so i like all i can say is we don't want collateral damage we don't want war we want civilian deaths we want peace we want the conflict to stop the argument then becomes should israel airstrike or should they send in a ground strike force to start executing hamas aoc effectively called for that yeah yeah saying we want precision that should be an intelligence so so so israel should

invade gaza if if they're going to defend themselves they should not be bombing where there's a ton of civilian casualties they told everyone to leave and hamas told everyone but i saw reports of people who saying my mom is bedridden because she's sick and she can't get up what are we supposed to do some people have no form of getting anywhere and they're just supposed to see on hebrew television that they're supposed to get up and go somewhere i think that's i think that's unrealistic it's not just on television well where else is it i mean they they put stuff out like there's been a lot more of that they went to the un they told the un like get people evacuated from this area the un spoke to you know representatives in gaza they have diplomatic channels i just this was like a week ago and the

un was like it would be very difficult to move a million people at once i mean it's it's an incredibly difficult situation i think hamas lies i think this is a lot of violence but if we're going to return to the premise of does america help because like we've talked about if joe biden's going to give whatever millions of dollars to the palestinians but we know ultimately that'll probably end up in the hands of moss but then we're also saying israel we're your ally we're not did you hear what he said last week, what Biden said last week when he gave that speech? I think it was on Thursday. I think it was Thursday. And he said, you know, we're going to give a bunch of aid to Gaza.

And if Hamas doesn't steal it, we'll get more. We did that here. And it's like, what are you even talking about? What do you mean? Like, obviously, they're going to take it. They take all of it. But also, like, he knows that and he's still trying to play both sides this is something that we're seeing i find that more infuriating i'm much happier to give money to our allies and not

give money to our enemies i would rather give money to the americans in america than to you know see we already did that i don't want to do that either sides of a war that we are now that's insane i don't like i don't like that American and British Western munitions are being used to kill innocent people. I think the human loss and the toll that that is in any world, in any world where morality and ethics exist means we if Israel is going to defend themselves, they send in insurgent teams. They kill who they need to kill, whoever caused whatever attacks took place. That's what they do. They they don't risk it. They don't risk it with announcements saying leave Gaza, leave the place where they supposed to kill whoever caused whatever attacks took place that's what they do they they don't risk it they don't risk it with announcements saying leave gaza leave the where are they

supposed to go to tent cities for them to bomb and glass any of their allies taken refugees from because i think gaza well king abdullah from jordan said that he doesn't want to do it because he sees it as kind of enabling them israel to take over palestine oh that's such a great reason that's a great way to say that. I thought we wanted to open borders everywhere. I thought that was the answer. No, just here in America only. Just to destroy our country.

Okay, so now you're in America. You don't understand. As I have now said several times, when your neighborhood is being righted, you just leave your front door unlocked and then go defend someone else's house. That would make sense. I'm just genuinely curious

why people are so fervent, why there's so much fervor over Israel-Palestine. I know. I couldn't tell you. As a Jew, I don't want to see my fellow Jew die, and I think it's sick. I thought after the Hamas attacks, all the carnage that was left,

the pictures that you saw on Twitter, like I was telling you before the show, you're seeing nothing but graphic footage all around twitter the carnage that was left behind by hamas is despicable and the consequence for that should be they should be killed but it again should be just them that are killed not innocent i suppose the challenge is like israel's choices after being attacked are airstrikes on strategic targets, which results in a lot of collateral damage and dead civilians. And that's horrifying. Or invasion.

I don't know. Pick one. Me, I'm kind of just like, I don't know. I'm not Israel and I'm not in this war. And the United States is partially, I suppose, tangentially involved in this war. And I think we shouldn't be because it's an unsolvable issue i just think if if you've got i just think you want on this i mean sure i mean but if you've got 51 of gaza saying they support hamas and even in the united states the people are chanting from the river to the sea peace is not an option i mean peace is the preferred

outcome but it's not an option when you have one side saying from the river to the sea peace is not an option i mean peace is the preferred outcome but it's not an option when you have one side saying from the river to the sea yeah but the majority of those folks at least i like to think are not going to go out and actually plant a bomb like i think that's justifying any war on gaza because those folks are so you know critical against israel that doesn't justify killing that's not it that's hamas using schools and hospitals to store weapons and to launch rockets and then attacking israeli civilians because as that yell professor said settlers aren't civilians so to the people uh to 51 percent of people in gaza let's just say 51 supporting hamas anyone anyone some of those people were tourists.

Fair game. Kill them all. That's what they're doing. That's horrifying. You're not going to get peace in Israel with Israel and Palestine if that is the view of a million people in the Gaza Strip. Right. Yeah. So what is Israel's plan?

Let me ask you, what do you think would happen if the barrier fencing around Gaza was completely removed and and israel just said anyone in gaza can do whatever they want they can they can freely travel freely travel well i mean that kind of exists now they're able to go back and forth for jobs no no i'm saying the barrier if what would happen if the barrier was completely removed security around the gaza trip was removed and israel said to all of the people you can freely move about all of israel what would happen I'm sure there would probably be conflict going both ways. Both ways? Yes, both ways, because I've seen Hamas and Palestinians. You think Israelis in Tel Aviv will march into Gaza with guns, start killing civilians? I think violence will be conducted either way.

I think that I've seen IDF soldiers treating Palestinian kids very badly on the streets, and sometimes they brag about doing brutal things to them. I think it would go both ways, regardless of the situation. So if the fences were removed, Israelis would go into Gaza. I'm not saying just Israelis. I said both ways. That means so that the implied is Palestinian civilians will go into Israeli settlements and start killing people. But you also think Israeli civilians will go into Gaza and start killing people.

I didn't say that. I just think that the conflict would go both ways. I don't think it would be good for anyone. But what does that mean, both ways? I think that, you know, terror or any act of violence would be carried out both ways by both parties involved. But I don't know what that means. Like, you think the people in the Gaza Strip,

would they leave the Gaza Strip? If the barrier is removed and security is removed and they say you can freely move about the country. I don't think a lot of them would. They just stay there. I mean, I'm sure there would be some tension for sure, but I don't think a lot of them would leave the homes. You think the people in Gaza would just stay there? So it's not an open air prison.

Well, if you're saying that Palestinians now can't go to Israel, they can. I mean, and I don't think a barrier makes much of a difference if you can get through to it to go to your job from nine to five. So then then so it's not an open air prison and the complaints of the Palestinians are just exaggerations? Well, I think that the land conflict is a whole nother topic. I mean, what belongs to who, that's just a whole nother can of worms I don't want to get into. But I don't think a barrier there is what's stopping any specific thing. I think people are able to go free and easy right so the issue I suppose is leftists are calling it an open-air prison where

people are trapped and stripped of resources well in a way they are and that's another war crime you mentioned because so it's a war crime that they're trapped in there well it's a war crime what's happening now where electricity water food and aid is being cut they can just leave but that's a war crime no no no it's not if they can just leave. But that's a war crime. No, no, no, no. It's not if they can just leave, right? That is an area where people live, innocent people live. And so when you cut off electricity- Who's giving them electricity? Well, Israel. So they're obligated to give free electricity to people of Gaza? Well, when they oversee certain supply routes, they're able to cut off food and aid. No, but people can just leave Gaza, you said. Right. They can, but they don't

want to give up their land again. They don't want to go to a tent city in some desert and then have the land that they had in Gaza be taken over as well. I'm not sure I'm following it. So Israel is providing electricity to Gaza. Under what obligation do the Israelis have to give a resource to the people of Gaza? And how is it a war crime if they decide to stop supplying a resource? It's a war crime because those routes, those electricity routes, those trading routes where they get their food, they get their water, go through Israel. So when the Israeli government cuts it off, that's a war crime. Why? How's it a war crime? Because you're disallowing innocent civilians from having drinking water, from having electricity. So you're saying thatowing innocent civilians from having drinking water from having electricity but so you're saying that it's actually it's not israel is it producing the electricity they're just going

in between where gaza would get i know normally i know a lot of the supply routes are not just coming from israel i don't think there's a lot of israeli aid yeah i think they're coming from rafa crossing right so so egypt is trying to get electricity to gaza but then israel stopping it i think egypt is trying to get aid and food and water and resources and medical resources to people in israel stopping it how the electricity grid there works i have no idea but i know israel israeli uh technology capability does not um stop it being able to shut down a power grid i'm i'm not sure i i i follow a criticism of israel in this line of thinking so if people can can come and go as they please but they don't want to live in a tent city so they would choose to live somewhere with

electricity it's a war crime well no but you got to look at it like let's let's make it out like it's here if you know you know, I live in Georgia. If Alabama decided to, you know, attack Georgia and come in here and say, well, you got to leave or you're not going to have food or water or resources. I don't want my land to be taken over. So I'm going to fight against those people in order to prevent my land from being taken over in order to get resources once again if your land's already been taken historically yeah but why has why have the palestinians rejected a two-state solution going back into the 70s and even previously again i don't when it when it comes to the land conflict i think that they don't really see they don't really see israel having any claim over

the land right they they don't want israel to exist right right that's not okay however that doesn't justify a war crime to cut off but what are they so what should what should israel what should israel do when they're when they have neighbors not just not just in gaza and the west bank not just the palestinians that don't think they have a right to exist, but they had a longstanding conflict with Egypt. They've had longstanding enemies in Lebanon. They're the only nation in the entire region, right? And they have enemies surrounding them.

So when you had Trump's administration come in with the Abraham Accords, creating the bilateral agreements, that was starting to be effective. We recently had Saudi Arabia and Israel almost normalizing relations. You have Israel can't even play soccer in the Middle East League. They have to play in Europe because otherwise they would get killed, right, by the fans. And Hamas engaged in the attack they did to stop the Abraham Accords negotiations. And to stop Saudi Arabia israel from getting close because the abraham accords essentially left the palestinians out of it and why were the palestinians

left out of it because they have refused to come to a negotiating table at any point right with a consideration of a two-state solution so we've had bill clinton proposed a two-state solution he had this idea that actually gave palestinians a whole bunch of stuff that they wanted and who was it then it was yassir arafat and arafat was like nah we're not gonna do that uh you had obama had a two-state solution and so finally trump just ignored them and they don't like that either and that's when they lashed out and killed 1400 people including a whole bunch of civilians children and so now you're saying that there should be a ceasefire because Israel shouldn't be fighting against the people

who are actively seeking their extermination. The problem is there are Jews and Israeli Jews who believe that Palestine shouldn't exist and that they should have more of a land claim. So to make this whole thing ideologically based, I think is the wrong route to go. People are killing each other. Innocent people are dying.

So everyone should want to cease fire. We can come to the table as countries diplomatically after. But like you said, the biggest issue right now is to focus on the civilians that are dying. But they won't come to the table. Before we came up here, the crew downstairs was watching a show called golden balls that was great that was great what golden balls you missed it hannah claire you know i was working well we

were watching on the big screen we were watching golden balls on the big screen golden balls is a british game show that fills me with righteous indignation and fury but is it race-based because it's british so everybody gets uh some golden balls and then in like the first round they're like you show two of them and they have dollar values and the goal is to build up a big jackpot and then two of them you don't see and you have to lie about what they're worth you claim that oh if you if you if you pick me i have ten thousand pounds and whatever in the end the way the game works the reason why i bring it up there are four there are two balls in front of each person's two people left and one of them is steal the prize money and one of them

is split the prize money if both players agree to split the prize money they split the prize money if one player splits the prize money but the other steals it the person who steals it gets it all if both players try to steal it they get nothing right so you see two people look each other in the eyes and say we're gonna split the money we're gonna split it i will take half the jackpot that's fine with me and they go yes and then the game game show host says choose your ball steal the money or split the money and then they shake hands and they're like we're gonna split it yep and then they both open steal oh they lied the whole time it's particularly brutal when one

person says i'm gonna split the money with you and then it gets stolen from them and they go i knew it and you know you learn from that people. Yes, it does. And then the people who choose to steal the money from the other person go, yes, yeah. And so here's what I see. I see these leftists marching through the street. They lie every, every time. Every time. The Hamas hospital thing really pissed me off. And then they go, they rip through the fences, massacre civilians. Watch the videos. And then they go, please help us through the fences massacre civilians watch the videos yeah

and then they go please help us please they're shooting us and i'm just like y'all y'all started a fight and you're losing and now i'm supposed to be mad at the person who's who's winning if if a guy breaks into my house with a baton and i've got a remington 12 gauge people are going to be like don't leave him alone you have a shotgun dude broke into my house with a weapon israel gets attacked and they go but 75 years ago 75 years ago nothing i got no idea what you're talking about okay how about we stop fighting right now if the argument is civilians should stop dying then hamas is the problem and if the argument is we should have peace between palestine and well, the problem is that Hamas exists. And so long as there is someone who is going to steal the money from the other person and

lie about it, there's not going to be a peace agreement. Any other argument is pointless. The people who are like Israel's engaged in war crimes, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, dude, there's a war going on and one side is lying about everything and started the fight and is actively trying to massacre civilians, arguing that every civilian is a colonizer and from the river to the sea, they're going to reclaim this land. I'm sorry, dude. Peace agreements sound like a psychotic proposal. There's a man standing before you at the front of your house saying, if you let me in your house,

I will do unspeakable things to your children. And then people are like, just let him in. Just just let him negotiate. You're kicking him outside. He's got no electricity outside. You've cut him off from warmth and heating and air conditioning. It's a war crime. And I'm like, he's going to come in here. He's going to kill everybody. No, no, you're committing a war crime by not giving him stuff. And I'm just like, dude, I can't do this.

What if, hear me out, we had the leaders of Hamas, Palestine, Israel get together, go on golden balls, and see if this settles the conflict. Maybe there is a way to just get out of this using British entertainment television. Peace isn't out of the question. When Trump was in office... I think we can always get out of it using British entertainment television.

I really think it's an underrated geopolitical diplomatic resource. You cannot argue for peace after Hamas massacres a bunch of civilians starting the conflict and still right now, despite everything going on, keeps telling everyone they will kill israelis no matter what let me let me let's jump to this story okay we got this from

the post-millennial minneapolis city council candidate joins crowd in chasing elderly man after blocking highway with anti-israel israel mob i saw this tweet. Andy Knope posted it. This is crazy. It is crazy. This video. Let me see what we can post some of it. You have this massive crowd blockading an intersection. These people in these cars, they got no idea what's going on. They surround the vehicles. They begin attacking

the innocent elderly man who has no idea what's going on. The elderly man inches forward and eventually is able to drive through and they chase him down after that and continue attacking his vehicle. Dude, the people who are chanting free Palestine, they're doing so many things.

They're in New York chanting, what do we want? We want it all. They said we want it all. They said we want it all. That was right on the corner of that like those videos. That's where I used to live

that corner. They're saying remove the colonizers. Yes. Despite the fact that these people who are claiming to be Palestinian are on what they consider

stolen Native American land. They are lying about everything. I was tweeting about that because my ancestors were in Brooklyn for over 100 years. And I'm like, are you serious? I just think it's dangerous to make this a one sided issue because there was a report, I think yesterday, a pro-Israel protester was just arrested in Shokie, Illinois, after chasing protesters and pulling out his firearm and firing shots

toward the crowd at a pro-Palestine rally. So to make this situation and demonize one side, even though, like I said at the beginning of the show, Hamas is, I condemn them. I hate Hamas. I hate terrorists. But to make this a one-sided issue in our country domestically, it's not because clearly we have this story here. It was a guy who did a bad thing? The problem is this is not just limited to just one guy. This is an ideology that many people have. Many people are just fundamentally against Palestinians, and Palestinians are against their oppressors, whatever they deem oppressing. And so it just cannot be limited to one issue. Israel is not innocent in all of this either. There are corrupt

powers that be in Israel. And those people, I think, instigate conflict. I think they provocate. And I'm not saying this is on Israelis' hands or anything like that, but I'm saying that Israel's not innocent in all of this. That's coming from a Jew. I don't think Israel's innocent. I just think that Hamas didn't have to choose to go in there and kill a bunch of people. Well, Israel didn't have to choose to go in there and kill a bunch of people well israel didn't have to choose to kill thousands and thousands of palestinians over the course of the last decade to 20 times more than than israelis but they they did what why i don't know i couldn't tell you well there you go so it's a good point more though so many times more like what's the actual number 20 times more what's one number if there's one person that's 20 people what's the

number uh so here's here's here's the issue that's all and that's nebulous and immaterial to where i am and what i'm what i'm talking about and i and it doesn't mean anything okay if you said in 2014 during protective edge uh hamas did x and israel did y we could have that conversation but once again when it comes to protective edge it is it is hamas attacks israel because they believe they they they own it all. It's all theirs. They want it all. And whatever reason, it overlaps with the American left.

We even saw, what was the current leader of Hamas saying that he's like George Floyd? Yes. And they're racist. Yeah. That was from a couple of years ago. But yeah. Right. A couple of years ago.

Yeah. And they've been planning this attack for two years. Here's the way I see it. Imagine you're in a mall and you hear gunshots going off. You run into an area and there are two guys with guns. And they're both pointing at each other. We want them to stop. However, one guy started shooting.

The other guy was trying to stop the shooter. What do you do? So what's happening is there are a lot of people who are ignorant to what's going on who will start tell me what happened and then the one guy says you know three years ago this guy and the other guy was five years ago this guy will six years ago this guy who started shooting right now in the mall him and who are you I'm trying to stop him. Okay.

What happens if you stop the wrong guy? The crazy guy starts shooting again and kills a bunch more civilians. It is a challenge to figure out who is right and wrong in circumstances like this. But the idea now that Hamas attacks Israel and therefore, like, we're going to have this historical debate is pointless to me. We can have a debate about American financing for foreign governments and all that stuff. And I'm just like, this is a really good reason we shouldn't be involved in foreign conflict. Agreed. You know, because this is what you get. The problem is it's bleeding out all across the world.

And for some reason, it escapes me. People are so ideologically just impassioned by israel it is the craziest thing in the world i despise it more than anything the the this fervor the zealotry don't care if you're for or against israel if you've got a rational argument in favor of israel defending itself totally hear you if you've got a rational argument about 1947, was it 1967 or 68 or whatever? Which one? There was 67,

and that was the Six-Day War, and then in 73 was the Yom Kippur War. I have almost never had, I would say 2% of the conversations that have ever arisen about Israel have been historically accurate, calm conversations. There is always some, look dude i'll be like you're saying like israel's committing war crimes and doing all this stuff and i'm just like

that doesn't mean anything it's completely meaningless hamas committed war crimes oh hamas committed war crimes how could you be mad at israel like it's just mud being thrown back and forth yeah but the problem is israel's a formalized government palestine's not and why is that a problem? Because Israel is an ally. And when those are American munitions being thrown over the borders and onto Palestinian innocent people, that implicates us in some of that guilt. It's collateral damage. It's bad.

I don't look at innocent children dying and call that collateral damage. That's the definition. Collateral damage is in military operation when civilians die. I know, but I don't just shrug it off is what I'm saying. We're not trying to shrug it off. I'm saying that there needs to be peace. Like she said, we should have everybody from every party come to the table. Now, I think that was going to happen.

But I just feel that that's like it's so naive to look at what just happened and think the answer is as simple as a ceasefire or peace. It's never going to look at what just happened and think the answer is as simple as a ceasefire or peace. It's just never going to happen. The answer is obviously British entertainment television. I'll say it once. I'll say it again.

Well, like you said, America should not be involved. That's what we have to say first. We have to put America first, and America shouldn't be in the Middle East, and America shouldn't be in Europe. We shouldn't be fighting anyone's war for them, and we should be worrying about the problems here. Again, I say our young men are killing themselves at rates we've never seen before, veterans. And we have our politicians who are prioritizing every other issue above the moon. But these people that are killing themselves here at home. And I think peace is definitely achievable because when Donald Trump was in office, there was world peace. There was no war

going on. I think people saw a weak point in Biden's presidency and they said, well, we're going to strike and we're going to create a conflict and we're going to instigate World War Three. I mean, even this video of Biden sort of muttering into the microphone, I have to go to the situation room. This is not the representation of our country I would like. And I think it is apparent to everyone that there are a lot of forces in the world that are now testing the strength of American leadership, which I hate to say it as much as I love America. The Joe Biden administration is not presenting a strong front to to the nations or to to the international community. So I you know, we saw Ukraine happen. We're seeing things happen in the Middle East. I will not be surprised.

I personally feel like we're counting down until an invasion of Taiwan. It seems like just explosions happening all over the place. And the question is, at what point do we say we have to put our own domestic priorities before everything else, even when we have historic ties or relationships diplomatically? I do agree with you, Tim, about what you said about we shouldn't be focusing on the sins of the father and the grandparent. That shouldn't be the topic of today. So I do agree with you, Tim, about what you said about we shouldn't be focusing on the sins of the father and the grandparent. That shouldn't be the topic of today. So I do agree with you on that. It's impossible.

Yeah, I agree. I think the challenge for me is like when you learn about how evil really exists, and I wonder when it happens for the average person and i wonder if so many people in the united states especially like these people surrounding these vehicles many of these leftists i i perhaps they can't see uh the forests for the trees perhaps you know they are the horde of evil and because they can't see it or they're not victims of it they can't understand the people here that like so this video of these these people in the mob right they're evil people yeah but this is the banality of evil this is not sure malicious these people aren't individually deciding to take actions, but they're part of a horde, which is victimizing innocent people. Sure.

Agreed. They've not experienced the brunt force on the other side of this, so they don't truly get it. Yep. I wonder if there's a point in people's lives where they experience evil and then start to realize. For me, when I'm younger, I'm i'm like oh good and evil are subjective everyone thinks they're they're they're doing the right thing and then i got older and actually had some

experiences i'm like oh wow evil people certainly exist oh yeah pure evil no question i mean this is a lot of them not to like jump stories but when you this uh off-duty pilot who theoretically tried to turn off the engine of a plane in air today i mean they're still investigating what happened there but is what did happen there okay so well we're gonna we're gonna get to this in a little bit i mean i don't want to jump stories i won't jump stories but i'm just saying like when you are trying to unpack something that's happened and it when you when you see uh any kind of incident from the outside you have to ask yourself is this person evil did they just want to see the world born or you know a lot of times we hear it now where it's like, oh, there's

a mental health issue. Maybe they're having a psychotic break. Who knows? We don't know what plays into someone else's motivations. On the other hand, the consequences of their actions remain the same no matter what their motivation was. Hamas is evil. Israel is a spattering mix of government institutions corrupt wealthy individual individuals good civilians who are trying to live peacefully palace of gaza specifically is seems to be 50 50 between hamas and people who want to be left alone which creates a very pressing challenge yeah the issue i see here is you can't negotiate with evil no no i mean like you can try to negotiate with evil you can desperately beg evil for peace and, no, no. I mean, like you can try to negotiate with evil. You can desperately beg evil for peace and then they'll agree with you and then turn around and put the knife in your back.

Right. Like those people on Golden Balls. No joke. That's why I brought it up. It's a silly show. But I'm watching this and I'm just like. Evil people will stare you in the eye and they will try to steal everything from you and they will cheer for themselves as they destroy you. And I think this is one of the issues that

without acknowledging, if you can't acknowledge that some people just are evil, then you can't acknowledge that there are people who will not, no matter how hard you want them to understand, relate to, or try to live by a moral code that you or your community share, right? An evil person has no reason to feel bad about anything because their motivations are completely contrary to yours if you're a good person. And I think that's really hard

to wrap your head around. Like, can evil forces exist in the world and can you potentially change them? And I just don't think that's true. And this is, I'm not trying to comment geopolitically now. I'm just talking philosophically. Evil exists no matter what.

How, what you do to contain it and if someone can be converted from evil is a really serious question i think that's why we have histories of moral philosophy but people i think on average i'm willing to bet most people don't experience abject evil and i think the more you're exposed to various ideologies various the more the more people you meet, it increases the likelihood you meet people who are truly evil. There's a lot of them. Yeah. But I don't think it's the majority of humans, but there's a lot of them.

I have experienced things that I would just say like, you know, somewhat private, personal stuff. I did not believe such evil could exist. And I just don't understand how people could be so evil but oh you better believe it we were swatted 15 times in the span of a year and we have very very high confidence we know it was the police won't do anything about it they don't care about you multiple law enforcement agencies won't do anything about it we've reported we've given them evidence they don't care the people who did it who we assume we know did it and the people who are aiding those who did it we don't know 100 who did we do know

who is aiding them who is providing them with intel and allowing them to do it and i just could not believe that people i've known and trusted for decades would for no reason literally none smile on their face every day and then then behind the scenes, laugh and smirk as they tried to burn everything down and kill people. It's shocking when that happens, when you trust someone and then they just turn on you. But I try and destroy your life. But just to ask people to understand this,

imagine someone you've known literally your whole life. They've been to your house for dinner, dozens, hundreds of times. You've gone to theme parks and you vacationed with them and their family and then one day you find out they were pouring drano in your cereal trying to kill you you just be like i but why it's hard to get over something and they're and they're laughing when they when you find out laughing saying i almost got it oh man and you're like the evil people exist do you know that story about one of the

most infamous female poisoners uh i'll look up her name in a second but she was based in alabama i believe and uh she just poisoned she had five daughters poisoned them all poison her husband poison the next guy she only got caught because she married this like young guy and he was at a va hospital and when she would leave for a while for a couple weeks he would get better and then she would be there and he would get worse and it got caught and when they asked her like why why would you do this especially to your own children to your mother like it was it was a crazy amount this went on for like i think several decades uh she just said i don't know there's something wrong with me i don't know why i did

it she had no explanation for her actions that she did several different ways over the course of several decades that's crazy how do you that? How do you explain something like that? When you look at, like, you know, we're showing this video of this leftist attacking this vehicle. These people are cheering and dancing as they attack innocent people. We saw this at the George Floyd riots. It is mindless evil. How do you negotiate for peace with people who are laughing at causing suffering? You have to show them Christ. That's the only way. I mean, anyone who thinks they're going to find

a peaceful lifestyle and have a great eternity after and not have Christ at the center of their life here on earth are just stupid. And I think you're going to see evil play out all over the world until people realize that and put Christ first. But I will tell you, again, this whole conflict goes back to putting America first. We need to stay out of it. We don't need to get involved in another years-long war. Evil exists. I'll tell you one thing. Being a young guy on the political scene, I lived in D.C. for four years, or four months, sorry, and I can tell you, I've never seen evil like I have in D. Oh man. Coming across folks. It's the hell mouth. Yeah. Coming across older men saying things to me and blackmail, attempting to blackmail and

extort me for things that they wanted in exchange. I'm telling you unthinkable things. And I, you know, the, I couldn't thank anyone else for my protection other than Christ. If it wasn't for him and me to be able to pray and rely on him, I wouldn't have made it through living there for only four months. So I can't imagine the folks that are entrenched in that mess every day. D.C. concentrates a lot of evil. And one Myersburg personality type. It's like I am TJ. It's whatever Hillary Clinton is.

There's a huge proportion of them in D.C. All represented. And also that personality type doesn't like to share space with the same personality type. So sorry, D.C., you're meant to split apart. Man. I don't know. I feel bad for like there's like the dude and his wife on a farm and they're just like they got a handful of cows and pigs and sheeps and goats. And they're like, we got enough for our family and our friends.

Just leave us alone. And then you've got people who are just laughing and smiling hoping to burn it down for no reason well it included in those people trying to laugh and burn it down for no reason is the biden administration you remember the agriculture secretary intentionally uh started giving out loans specifically to minority groups like farmer minority farmers who were from a minority group and um the it turned out that that was illegal so some farmers took him to court over that and the judge was like you can't fix previous racism with new racism that's not how it works that's not effective and so they knocked that thing out

but then biden was mad about it and i was like oh if you based on your skin color you should get more money first uh it was total trash yeah Yeah, I do think Joe Biden is racist. You're right, Libby. I think Joe Biden is racist as well. I think he's, yeah. He wouldn't want his kids to go to those jungle schools or whatever they were talking about. With corn pop.

Yeah, with corn pop. I feel his hair shine in the... Oh, that is so disgusting. That's the most disgusting thing. I hadn't seen the whole thing about that until recently. And I was like, he was talking about children stroking his leg hair? What kind of pervert?

What kind of horrible pervert that is? The female poisoners we're referencing for was Ronabelle Martin, I believe. But anyway, she's lots of people down

and only I think her fourth husband survived. We're going to jump to this story from MSN.com, rehosted from daily express vladimir putin suffers cardiac arrest sparking massive alarm in kremlin inner circle and a shout out to timothy whitaker in the super chat who asked i had not seen this story it's from 16 hours ago totally missed this one but uh i did just check it real quick and there are a ton of outlets that are covering this saying vladimir putin is alleged to have suffered a cardiac arrest and his private Moscow apartment on Sunday evening.

A telegram channel believed to be run by a former Kremlin insider reported that incident, saying the Russian leader was found by guards on the floor of the bedroom lying on the floor rolling his eyes. Doctors were reportedly called in immediately, and they later diagnosed the 71-year-old having suffered a cardiac arrest. It's different from a heart attack. Cardiac arrest is when your heart stops. Something like this was reported about Putin a couple months ago, wasn't it? He's been having a lot of medical issues. That's horrible to hear. Well, I mean, the scary thing is, what happens to Russia without Putin?

Yeah, it's a big power vacuum. Yeah. He's not a good dude. Well, you know what? They might just start fighting among themselves and then lose all lose all interest in Ukraine and then we could just be like okay see ya see ya next time

this might prevent World War 3 that would be helpful it's kind of a horrifying thing to think like if this man dies World War 3 is averted well yeah then Russian Civil War 3 or 4

they do that a lot yeah the thing is whoever takes over for Russia and we would think they might fight amongst themselves but we don't actually know if there's not a clear successor to his throne could be even worse it's a proxy war for Russia and we would think they might fight amongst themselves, but we don't actually know if there's not a clear successor

to his throne. Could be even worse. It's a proxy war. They have Pergozin out of the way. So he's out of the way. Because he would be much tougher on Ukraine. But the next guy might be too. But didn't they get rid of most of those guys

in that plane crash? I don't know anything. I don't know anything, which is why we didn't cover this story at post-millennial. I just couldn't tell. Yeah, it's hard. And also when you see stuff like this, it's hard for me not to be like,

when is the Kremlin statement saying like somebody slipped in his car? But yeah, I was interested in this story too. And I couldn't track down, like, I find it very difficult to cover overseas stuff because I really, I really only know just the one language well especially with china and russia i think if anything i was actually

was concerned about this as well if there's power vacuum this is before i even knew that he had this heart attack i talked with a friend of mine if there is a power vacuum in russia what's to say that china isn't going to go you know knocking on russia's door i don't know i'm just you know it's just a whole other thing i'm throwing out there but there's definitely definitely animosity between them. Totally random crazy thought that you probably start thinking about when you get older.

It's like, you could be taking a shower in the morning and like, let's say your wife or your husband or whatever is like, all right,

I'm going to go, you know, walk the dog or whatever. And then you slip and hit your head and you're dead. That's why you should get married because they'll come back

after they walk the dog and be like, the shower is still running and they'll check on you. And that's, and that's the thing unless they hate you but there are a lot of stories about like elderly people who will just go missing and then a week later people are just like let's go check up they've been missing for a week and they're like oh they

slept in the bathroom and died yeah yeah yeah like you could just like putin so the report is like his guards heard a thump and then ran up and found him i don't know if he actually had an attack right they're saying unconfirmed reports but a bunch of ballots are carrying this this this this rumor and just imagine like for the average person who has a heart attack there is no guard waiting downstairs to hear that's why they invented the button thing although if you have a heart attack you're unconscious you can't press your life alert button although there's i think one that like if you fall hard enough it'll right there's like totally there's like necklaces and stuff oh the iphone does that yeah there was a there was a what what is it like if you fall hard enough it'll right there's like there's like necklaces and stuff too

oh the iPhone does that yeah there was a there was a what is it like if you get into a car accident it instantly calls 911 or whatever

oh yeah yeah I remember when technology's so crazy well like there's one story where a dude dropped the phone and the phone thought it was a car accident

so it called the police and they found it or something oh wow like fell off his bike or something like that I remember it was just a couple years ago my mom said honey I'm suddenly afraid of falling down that must be and she's like

she's in her mid-70s she's extremely active she just got back from a month traveling around italy right italy and ireland and wherever she was yeah she just does whatever she wants but she's still a little bit afraid of falling down. Yeah. Yeah. I just kind of hope that when I'm old,

I'm like fat. And so when I fall down, it doesn't, nothing gets broken. That is the argument for obesity right now. Although your bones get brittle,

you can't walk around, you get the veins, you have a heart issue. Oh, that seems bad too. The diabetes, you know. No, the good news is if you're fat, you won't get old.

Oh, if you're fat, you won't get old. So that's a you won't get old so that's a win forever the hardest takes you first live fat die young i'll just stop working out i'm also equally concerned that putin having a heart attack could lead to world war three yeah that's really what's the alternate scenario what do you think that without putin stabilizing the region it results in power struggles and then it leads to conflict outside of outside of russia which drags other people in putin may be a stabilizing force stopping certain elements of of the russian military from engaging in certain actions right yeah like look at qaddafi after after he went to libya oh yeah collapsed yeah but i mean worse

than that let's say like put Putin's heart attack and dies. Then a military leader says, I'm the next in command, so I'm going to do this thing. Fighting erupts inside Russia. But then this guy says, send in nuke Kiev or whatever. Something crazy.

Yeah. Putin's been a tough force for Russia for a long time. 20 years. I don't think that this uh war is just simple land dispute i think it's definitely a proxy war to test the endurance of russia um you know kind of caused by american influence but yeah i don't want i would rather put not die i think he's he's protected a lot of the christian community in in russia and you've seen zalinski shut down orthodox churches in ukraine and i'm seen Zelensky shut down Orthodox churches in Ukraine.

And I'm not saying... They were Russian Orthodox, right? The Russian Orthodox churches? Interesting, yeah. And so, I don't know. I do think it would bring in World War III if he died. Yeah, I mean... I mean, the question at this point is,

there are so many different scenarios to get us into World War III. Are there any scenarios to keep us out? To keep it from happening? Put America first. Stay away from everyone else. Multiple arguments have been made for why that would result in World War III. The first two other World Wars started when America stayed out.

Ben Shapiro's argument is that if Iran or other countries stage a ground invasion of Israel or begin airstrikes, Israel will respond with nuclear weapons, which will create regional conflict, which bleeds out into hemisphere, whatever, international. Yeah, and then the U.S. has no choice but to get involved. Well, Mark Levin was on Fox News the other day,

and he was just going, like, eviscerating the host, saying, well, Israel's surrounded, and they may have to resort to nuclear weapons. Just infuriated and i i don't think it'll come to that point i don't think it'll come to that point unless israel provokes it i just don't see that happening but what i will say is even if it does you know bleed out into the international community i still think america should stay out of it i think we're a strong enough entity to keep to ourselves what about nato do you don't think we should i think we should pull out of nato you don't think we should defend our allies i think we should pull out of nato so we should be

have no friends at all in the world i think our friends should be ourselves and we should put america first because we haven't done that we're gonna be like that we're gonna be like that girl in new york who marries herself stages a whole wedding. I'm an isolationist. And she's so happy. Oh my God. She is so happy. I will say. She has no children.

She has no man. I will say. She has a very nice dress and she is happy. That girl probably locks her apartment door, which is the thing I think America should do. I think we should completely talk about the border. Yeah. And when she falls down in the shower,

there is nobody there to help her. I mean, we have a bunch of states that are the size of european countries i i can't say what our interventionist strategy should be i generally feel like before we delve in further to any international skirmish we should have a stronger border policy uh and then we can talk about it it's hard to have these conversations knowing that we are like yeah yeah you're bad and we want to support you and also come across our border anytime no questions asked also maybe from canada if you fly there and hop like this is not good we need a strong national defense trump says it this is coming straight

from trump's mouth we have to put america first that's not a controversial thing to say we've got so many problems that are crippling us and leaving us basically paralyzed in the water and our kids are killing themselves because they have no purpose they're gender dysphoric and we're focusing on a bunch of regional skirmishes thousands of miles halfway around the world let's focus on putting america first why is that so i agree i agree but being being isolationism being isolationist and saying we're going to totally isolate ourselves is also kind of a death knell because we don't have enough manufacturing to keep this country going

we have so many things that are also resources our resources are not in the same level as other countries we have we have natural gas we have oil we should be drilling i'm with that and i'm sure you agree with that as well but i still think that like okay if you want to do that we'll give ourselves like a 20-year timeline because we can't do that tomorrow or we're screwed yeah well i think like you said uh we should be an autonomous country but maybe we should build the time machine and go back and put the factories back in america i mean there's a lot of stuff we should have done we've been on a bad path for a long time i don't think that we should give up and say like well we've already been engaged we don't have these things like but i acknowledge i think you're totally

right yeah we aren't necessarily in the position to say, well, we're just going to do absolutely nothing. I do think that before everything else, we need to think about, especially if it's an international war and we know that the Biden administration is weak. The thing is, Americans are not used to conflict being fought on American soil. So I think it's really important

that we secure the border, right? Oh, it was like, it's been 7 million people since the Biden administration took office. And in in 2020 it was less than half a million yes and the majority of them are fighting it was 480 000 for no 400 yeah 480 000 in 2020 i'm pretty sure and it's been seven million since 2021 so good i'm glad that we're entering international skirmishes this is a great idea well they're trying to displace the nation's image bearers. And I think that's you've seen that just the way that they demonize white people, white Christians, especially white Christian men. Moreover, especially they're trying to do that. And they're like you said, they're sending seven

million people in. That's a huge fraction of our population. And I don't think we should stand idly by. We need a. And they're not done. They're flying people in from Venezuela. They're like, oh, these Venezuelans, they should get all of the things and New Yorkers should get nothing. We'll just send everybody to the Roosevelt Hotel. We gotta reinforce our border. We gotta have a stronger national defense. Otherwise, we're gonna be the laughing stock in the next 10 years.

I agree. But I think we're one step... I know, right? I think we're already there. It's like right now. It's why I am so interested to see an argument from the Democrats to keep Joe Biden in office, right? If we are on the brink of all these things and we have so many issues domestically, and then we have our slurring President Joe Biden. What do you call it with the dementia shuffle?

Yeah, the dementia shuffle is a real term. I mean, this is not the guy that I want at the forefront. And I actually think democrats they didn't like him before how could you be like yes i feel confident and safe when looking at president joe biden there's no way there's a there's a video going around of a guy presumably in the army wearing his like uniform and he's singing some song and then it flashes and he's a drag queen and it's like there's more than one of this but i'm like that should be immediate dishonorable discharge yeah i agree i think so too i've seen that video i don't like it there's like there's more than one of this but i'm like that should be immediate dishonorable discharge yeah i agree i think so too i've seen that video i don't like it there's like there's

a couple of them but there's one right now and the reason i say this or i would even i would even accept administrative discharge because it's the the our enemies look at our they look at our culture our country to determine whether or not they think we are strong or weak. And if we appear weak, we will be attacked even if we are strong. There's not much weaker than a fella in a dress. They let a master sergeant wear bondage gear in his army photo. I saw that. It's a puppy face, right?

It's not about any, it is about looking weak internationally putting our our other men and women at risk the message we should be giving off is that like that russian military commercial where the guys like shaved head jumps out of a plane lands in the ice he's got a gun we want to terrify that's why people wear skull masks they want to be terrifying and invoke death. Because then you minimize the likelihood of conflict, the more you intimidate and people... But if what we are seeing in our culture in the army, in the armed forces, is a bunch of effeminate men twerking and trying to be like women,

then our enemies are going to be like, if there ever was a time to destroy america it's now yeah yeah if there's ever a time to compare america to the great satan it's right now just just weakness yeah you can call it whatever you want satan or otherwise morality is not the question the question is is this guy a you know you remember the mountain from uh uh game of thrones yeah is it the mountain just had a second baby just so everyone knows this guy how tall was like six like 6'7"? Yeah, 6'8".

Like 6'8"? 7'1". 7'1"? I don't know. I'll look it up. But how much did he weigh? Like 300 and something pounds of muscle? It's crazy.

It all stems from our nation's breakdown and really alienation from Christ and Christianity because that's what our nation was supposed to be, have been rooted in. And you had a bunch of people come in and tear everything down. And it's unfortunately eroded into our to be, have been rooted in. And you had a bunch of people come in and tear everything down. And it's unfortunately eroded into our military. It's Christian's fault.

Yeah, no, I agree with you. 100% pacifists. Christian, who was saying this? It was Patrick by David. He's six foot nine. He's 400 pounds. 400. Which seems crazy.

He did just have a second baby. That's why he's on the- Patrick by David brought this up. It's the tolerant Christians who kept allowing these evil people to keep doing more and more and more and just sat back and let it happen yeah i agree it's like the the whole like the adage of like the republicans being the the brakes on the democrat party which is just the truth it's just christian liberalism allowing people to do what they want and saying oh i'll turn to the cheek turn to the cheek turn to the chick if you do that too much, eventually, you know. I love that, you know, Seamus, I think Seamus has mentioned it,

where it's like the left will say, but as a Christian, you should be doing this. And then his response is, as someone who hates Christians, I'm not going to take your word on Christianity. Yeah, true. It's horrible. They're trying to kill you guys. Like, my dad's Colombian. My dad immigrated here illegally.

And they're trying to kill you guys. You guys built the best empire in history. And it's a nation that thrived and did so well and was feared on the world stage. And now it's become this laughingstock that gives billions out to anyone who provokes their neighbor into a war. And they're trying to kill you guys for being white Christian men. It's unreal. And we've got to reinforce God back in our society, back in our schools. We cannot have our textbooks permeated by any type of propaganda that's foreign.

We need Christ back in the schools. And I'm saying that as a Messianic Jew. American values. Yeah. Founding fathers. There are a lot of American values. Individual liberties. And I think a lot of our day-to-day culture doesn't reinforce American values generally.

Like we can talk about the history books and can talk about hollywood or whatever else but i also think day-to-day people don't live lives that are uh reflective of american values there are some people who do but i think you know being openly patriotic being there for community you know doing things to serve those around you protecting your family there are some enclaves of american culture that live that way but but a lot of predominant centers of American populations don't have that at the core. And that's sad. I don't want to call out this company.

So I'm asking everybody who's here just not to name the company. But we recently bought a bunch of products from one company just as like, you know, on a whim. And this company, which produces a variety of meats and meat snacks, writes their mission of inclusivity and a diverse, healthy snack. And I'm just like, what about dried meat is diverse and inclusive? This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And so I don't want to, again, directly name the company because I'll let them do their thing. We won't buy from them ever again.

You know, whatever. No beef. It's just, it's become, it's a cult. Yeah. Where it's like, we're making a series of neckties, but our neckties are inclusive. How? Anybody can wear them.

Yeah. Okay. Well, I didn't know that before. I didn't know that literally anyone could buy this tie and put it on. Thank you for saying it directly. I've actually been thinking recently, I need a necktie. Oh, there you go.

Our inclusive neckties are available. I better buy the inclusive one so that I'm not called. They're diverse as well. Yeah, I need a i need a necktie oh there you go our our inclusive neckties i better buy the inclusive one that's right i'm not called they're diverse as well yeah i need a diverse right inclusive because because white people black people mexican people and agents they can all wear them are you sure i'm worried about that we actually tested them to make sure can women also wear these neckties okay i need a i need a scientific study and a written certification from the company because i just can't take your word for it. Both of you are bigoted. Let's make sure that they put it on the package. These companies are writing like our product is to ensure a diverse and inclusive meat snack.

And it's like, huh? That also sounds creepy. That starts to sound like right on the edge of cannibalism. I don't really like it. What kind of meat are you talking about? I really want to only know a specific. I don't want diverse. I want specifically one type of meat. I want you to label it on the package

how did that type of thinking introduce itself into our country where did it come from who introduced it well I think you don't know this the history of beef jerky is that only racist white men eat it and so we need to find a way to make it accessible to urban liberals right well the the left are

you know default liberals is what Breitbart called them. I believe what he called them because they don't actually have, they don't seek out information. They just hear it and they adhere to it. So I want to do a game show and we should, we should totally do this. Not even kidding. And it's political trivia, but the contestants are going to be like two people from the left and two people from the right, two self-identified liberals, two self-identified conservatives.

And then we ask questions. That'd be cool. You know, I'm not saying I know exactly how it would turn out and who would tend to be right or whatever. You know. But I think the right would tend to have, because the right argues all the time about various political issues. What is described as the right in the culture war includes libertarians who are going to start quoting a whole bunch of like anarchist philosophers like real ones not the left weirdos and people on the left are going to be like huh yeah you get someone who's like a liberal activist and you put them up up against a conservative activist and you ask about modern politics what was the name of the

the the uh the private military contractor who died in a plane crash who was deeply involved in the Ukraine war. Perkosin. Perkosin. And what's going to happen is a conservative is going to say that right away. Like, well, yeah.

And the liberal is going to be like, I don't know what you're talking about. Right. What is the name of the prosecutor fired in Ukraine after Joe Biden flew to the country and threatened to withhold $1 billion? Oh, I know the name.

Victor Shokin. Oh, wow. Look at that. I'm willing to bet you have a liberal and a conservative commentator and the liberal's gonna be like, what? What are we even talking about? They're making TikToks. Well, it's the new liberals would not get any of this stuff. My grandma was a liberal and she would have, she paid attention to everything.

And then you'd say like, what you know, if we get specific on well-regulated, referred to a type of armed individual that went by this name. Militia? Regulars.

Oh, regulars. It's in the name. I think this is a great game show. I think we should start I think so too. I really want to play. Also hijacked by pop culture crisis today and said that we should start a game show where we find Brett a wife and turn it into the dating game. I got one for you. So we're just the whole company. We're just turning into a, we are the new game show network.

I got one for you. I love it. I got one. I think maybe I'm not so sure anyone would be able to answer. Okay. got one i think maybe uh i'm not so sure anyone would be able to answer okay on his famous ride paul revere historically declared what the regular british are coming the regular trans men are real men why would paul revere say the british are coming when they were all british and the country was split between loyalists and patriots. I wonder why they changed that

in the textbooks or why that's what everyone It was just a poem. The British are coming. It's like the cops showing up. The Americans are here! It's like just cops. The regulars are coming which were effectively like the law enforcement of the day. But the poem made it propaganda.

It was Longfellow. The lead propagandist in american culture i'm just kidding it is it is commonly believed that he said the british are coming but my readings of academia and serge got this too yeah that he said the regulars are coming it's it's it's apocryphal that he said is it apocryphal the right word i think so i think so yeah yeah well it was it was you know art it It's also like for Americans like 200 years later, they're just like, well, he's meant to British, so like we'll just spread it.

There's so many cool stories in the American Revolution. It's crazy. Those people were crusaders. Those were crusaders. Those were young men who were actually impassioned on being patriots for the country, and many of them believed in Christ, and many of them were willing to lay down their lives

for the values that they saw. Oh, dude, doing like a religion trivia one with like a liberal and a conservative? Oh, wait, wait. As Ian Host. Then I'm with it. Whenever I go to Boston, which I'm going to be doing again for Thanksgiving because- That's a tradition? It's our tradition.

Me and my brother and my son and this year my brother's girlfriend is coming. We go out for dinner for Thanksgiving. This is our third year of this tradition, and we have the best time. But anyway, on the way up, I always stop at Lexington and Concord for the shot heard around the world and to see where Nathaniel Hawthorne lived in the old manse. And I love it. I love, I mean, I love Hawthorne, but I love Lexington and Concord. I love just being there in this space. And it's such a small area.

It's a little bridge. This was my favorite thing about growing up in New England, which is that when you study American revolutionary history, which you do for every year until they have to make you study other things, you get the best field trips because everything is within driving distance. And you can say like, oh, this happened here. And every small town has some kind of connection to it. I mean, I feel bad for the rest of you. I know Texas teaches his own history, but

it was it was one of the best parts of where I grew up because the American Revolutionary War is such a present and real part of that that region of the country. Well, did you have this like because I because I grew up in the south shore of Boston and most of the history we learned was revolutionary war history and then when i moved to philadelphia like all the history was about you know after the revolution and it was about the like the creating of the constitution i feel like american regional history is such a cool thing yeah we don't appreciate american regionalism enough i mean this is the thing that i think we lose again not that you should not be informed of what's going on in the world, but I love

that Texas teaches its own history. I know some students in West Virginia do some courses in West Virginia history. There are all kinds of regional influences. Like even if you talk about- And West Virginia has so much Civil War history. Right, right. If you talk about like how Minneapolis, St. Paul came to be, a lot of that is because of the Scandinavian immigration that happened there.

America has such an interesting regional history that unfortunately, I feel like local governments, local school systems do not put enough of an emphasis on. I'm so sorry that, you know, it is sort of a crime against ourselves. It's not going to necessarily solve peace in the Middle East, but it would be nice to remember our heritage and know about all of these things that made us who we are i mean the the massive protest that we saw in bay

ridge brooklyn over the weekend which is like it went up fifth avenue bay ridge bay ridge brooklyn isn't that a jewish area uh well it's an immigrant neighborhood yeah and it's a very arab neighborhood and there's a lot of jews in the neighborhood yeah and there's jews all around it flatbush uh borough park that's where uh that famous bagel places and there's a lot of good bagel places in the famous one i'm not gonna i don't want to shout them out because i don't because you don't like them no because i don't want someone to throw a brick oh that's fair but there's a lot of good bagel places in the neighborhood you can always get a good bagel um bay ridge is a this great neighborhood i moved there years and years ago. And Bay Ridge has always been an immigrant neighborhood. So there were Norwegians there.

There were Norwegians there because they were building the Verrazano Bridge. That was primarily Norwegian. There were Greeks that came in. There were Italians that came in. There were Chinese. There's not any Indians, and you can tell because there's no good Indian food in the neighborhood at all. But there's Central Americans, Mexicans, Arabs. You lived there, right?

I lived there for a long time. I don't live there now. I moved. But it was a great neighborhood, a ton of great food, lots of Jewish people, lots of Arab people, lots of Teslas. It's like there's a lot of wealth in the neighborhood as well. They're part of our cultural export. But I found it so surprising. And I'd seen pro-Palestinian protests there in the neighborhood before. But it was always much smaller.

And this was a huge, massive protest. And seeing the police blocking off streets, and one of the streets that I saw police in videos blocking off was a street where one of my old friends lives and he's Israeli and his whole family lives there. And I'm just like imagining him and his family and their kids like seeing this and they're Jewish. And I'm just like seeing this happen.

And I was like, I don't think that I don't like that. I don't like that. They feel like their neighborhood is under siege, that there's helicopters going on. And the thing about it being Bay Ridge is that this is just this classic old immigrant neighborhood. And I feel like if the people in that neighborhood, if the schools were better at teaching Brooklyn history, if the schools were better at, you know, if the city was better appreciating itself, those kids would all know like oh this is not just an arab neighborhood this is a classic immigrant neighborhood and when they would have move on there's going to be a different group of immigrants that's going to move in here and it's just that's sort of how bay ridge goes like it it belongs to nobody it belongs to everybody it's just a constant like well it's a new york

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Fourth. All right. Cold Deluxe Productions says, hey, Tim, you brought up again. The new cars can be remotely controlled in your culture war segment again. I just want to clarify that only applies to new vehicles with electric power steering, not hydraulic power steering. Interesting. Okay, thank you for the correction. Alan Choice says, Tim is not a simp.

The problem is that dating has to be a way to find a spouse. Find a spouse is essentially replaced marriage, in which case you are correct. So just to clarify, i did a segment earlier there's a woman being interviewed and the guy asks her how much should a man spend on a first date for you and she goes two hundred dollars and he's like why and then she explains it and i said she's correct and then you know everybody starts having a huge debate over it but my position was basically just like if you're arguing it's too much money then your argument is this woman has expensive tastes not that she like if you're arguing it's too much money then your argument is this woman has expensive tastes not that she's wrong you're arguing well you know i couldn't

afford that so i think a lot of this shock comes from i couldn't afford 200 i was going to date with a woman but this woman's in like miami and she's like in you know surrounded by guys who have this kind of cash and so my point is not so much the value dollar value, but that in a traditional dating sense, women expecting men to pay and pay well is the traditional gender role. And arguing that women should either not expect the men to pay to pay well or to split is the progressive argument. Yeah. So if I see like a woman getting all gussied up and putting on a ton of makeup and a lot

of work and be like, I want a guy who's gonna pay then i'm just like i see nothing wrong with it i think my issue with it wasn't so much that the man should be paying because i do think that the man should pay for the date i think my issue with it was how direct she was instead of just being like oh that was so nice you took me out for dinner that was really great she was like i demand it i well i feel like this this question put it on the spot they're like put a number on it and she's like you know you could do this calculation we could do before the show we did it and she's right yeah like if you're paying for like transportation it's dinner it's the movie it's like maybe something after whatever i just would like a little also like anything yeah

i mean i don't be nicer about it like like look hinge is not adding a thing as far as i know i'm not on hinge but they're not adding a part where it's like here is the price point at which i am looking for a first date right this isn't something that people typically lead off with she said 200 and my point was uber ride 30 bucks dinner 50 60 bucks maybe 70 bucks depending on how nice you want to get alcohol it's more expensive i'm including alcohol in there okay because like if you're going to like your average like diner in new york it's going to be like 30 or 40 bucks if you get an appetizer and two entrees. And then booze, you're going to be like 50, 60.

Oh, it's going to be more than that. Don't you think? I'm thinking like a regular diner for a burger. But if you want to get something nice like a steak. Not in New York, though. For even a burger? New York is expensive. Two burgers is going to be more than 50 bucks?

Well, when I used to live in Brooklyn and I would take my kid out to a diner and I'd end up spending like 60 bucks with no liquor. Well, when I used to live in Brooklyn and I would take my kid out to a diner and I'd end up spending like 60 bucks with no liquor. Well, okay then. So there you go. I think it's easily $100 for the meal, especially if you get alcohol. So you're at $130 with an Uber and a meal. We're talking a nice date. We're not talking like you went to hang out at the park and grabbed a burger at Burger

Shack or something like that. And in Miami too. That's for the third date. In Miami, right. No, for real, it is. And so then you want to do a movie and you got two movie tickets, 20 bucks each plus popcorn and whatever snack. Maybe you're not super hungry,

but you want a popcorn. You're looking at another 50 bucks. You're at like 150 or whatever. Another Uber ride after the fact. Maybe you got two or three Ubers in there or maybe you drive and it's less, but still. Swimming for gas, probably parking.

There's all kinds of expenses. And then you want to round off the night with like going to the lake and like riding a Ferris wheel. I'm choosing totally generic things. I love this place where we're both in New York going to the lake and riding a Ferris wheel. I'm choosing totally generic things. I love this place where we're both in New York and there's a lake and a Ferris wheel. I think this is great.

I think this is a great dating world. I think you're in Coney Island. So now you're like... Then that's an even more expensive Uber. No, well, if you're at a diner... It's like 200 bucks for the Uber to get to Coney Island. It's a Brooklyn diner

and then you're at Coney Island and then you're on the Ferris wheel. Yeah. But I'd want a Broadway show. See, and how good are those tickets? I'd want dinner and a show. You could spend $200 alone on the tickets. Oh, at least.

Or if the like- I mean, what if you're taking her to Hamilton? It's just crazy, right? And so like, you can argue the girl's not worth it, but that's your preference. The point is that woman has set a standard by which she wants to date by.

And I'm surprised people are like, she's wrong to ask her. Like she can ask for whatever she wants. She can say, I want a million dollars on my first date look and then you look she's not gonna get anything i'm so sorry you have priced yourself out of i don't think we're compatible financially uh the so the boston globe has love letters which is their advice column and they have a podcast and they did a whole season on finances and how it affects relationships but they talk to two i don't know if they're gen z or millennials but young people

uh because it is expensive especially for men to be dating i mean it is basically something they have to i don't know if you actually set a budget for it but it's something they have to factor in if you want to meet a girl and even if you're just meeting her for a drink right alcohol is expensive going out expensive the transportation is expensive uh it's it's not to be done lightly and i don't think it behooves women well it goes back to what you said about conservatives being the ones who would actually take someone out and spend the money and do the things and the chivalrous things. Well, I think it just doesn't behoove women to say like, oh, I shouldn't expect these things. Like you're setting a tone for a relationship.

And, you know, I don't think you should expect a million dollars. On the other hand, these things come with a cost. Let's talk about this in the members only. We'll take questions from the audience then. But let's read some more super chats. Try and get these in. Neurodivergent says request for Cast Castle. Does Ian have like an evil Damien twin that's a neocon because i think that

would be sweet that would be cool we did we did a gag where on cast castle ian did a behind the scenes where he's actually an actor the best line of all time richard nixon that's a guy i'd like to have a glass of red wine with yeah and then and then it's like the actor who plays Ian, he's like, what motivates me? What gets me out of bed in the morning for this role? Money. Ian's a good actor. He's trained and he does a really good job. But it was funny, the bit was,

everything you think about Ian is just fabricated. He's actually this really well-trained British guy who's just trying to channel this moronic, drug-addicted, whatever kind of character idea. He's just doing Laurence Olivier. Yeah, it's all a bit. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, I keep seeing a thing you need to address.

We only want you to do what's right. I have faith in you. For the next segment, please check the volume. Now, are you saying check the source? Because I often will have the wrong source set, and I'll play a video, and then the audio comes out of the wrong feed, and I have to change the source.

Oh, maybe. I think that's what he's saying. Maybe audio comes out of the wrong feed and I have to change the source. Oh, maybe. Maybe we should just stop yelling. Maybe they want us to speak more quietly. No, no, he's talking about my segments. Oh, okay. Because I'll play a Twitter video, but it's coming from the TV and not the speakers, so you can't hear it. And I'm like, ah, wait, gotta do it again. Yeah, I'll check your stream. I thought they wanted

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On your marriage. Good job. That's so exciting. Congratulations. Absolutely. Crossing the Line Podcast says, the trend of Gen Z thinking they will be able to dodge

the draft is very amusing. It's almost worth World War III to be able to see them go off to fight. Dude, can you imagine taking the war because War III to be able to see them go off to fight. What if they stop the war because they refuse to be drafted? Destroy the world just to spite Gen Z.

It's the millennials I can't stand. Yeah, real. Yeah, you know, Gen Z is pretty based. I think my kid is Gen Z. Gen Z made middle parts a thing and I just could never forgive them for that. Oh, look, check it out, you guys. It's graphene.

You found Ian's graphene. Tell us a graphene fact. I don't know anything about graphene. You had a look check it out you guys. It's graphene. You found Ian's graphene. Tell us a graphene fact. I don't know anything about graphene. You had a week in this chair and

you learned nothing about graphene. I know a fact about graphene. Ian really likes graphene. Fact. Is this the hard

hitting journalism they pay you for? Yes. I bought that for Ian for Christmas. Not that. Oh really? He never opened it.

Well no you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. He's on seasoning. You don't want that flying around. I don't know what it is. I don't really understand. One of the g you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. He's not seasoning. You don't want that flying around. I don't know what it is.

I don't really understand. One of the gags we have for Cast Castle is like walking into a room and Ian's doing lines of graphene. That's awesome. It looks like a toner cartridge ink. That's what it looks like. It does. It does.

All right. Let's grab a super chat. What is this? Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says, it's a good thing we did that emergency test. I love the conspiracy theory the conspiracy theory was that the emergency test was activating the 5g nanobots or something Oh nice I just know someone told me to turn off all of my like government alert things and whatever else and I still got it So I think I the apple iphone is as soon as you turn it on

With the government and I'm the first person to ever think you turned your phone off The moment you turned it on, it went off. Yeah. Crazy, right? I couldn't turn it off. It also came early because everyone was trying to avoid it. No, I think the way it's designed is that if they're trying to warn you a nuke is coming or something like that, your phone could be off.

You turn it on an hour later, the message comes through. You got it. No, I mean, like, it was supposed to go off at like 2.30 and it said it went off at like 2.15. I'm saying no matter what everybody gets it. No matter what you do. I don't consent to this. They used to do it

on radio and TV. Remember? This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. I like that. That's kind of nostalgic. Yeah, but like that's nostalgic

but nobody has a TV. Who has a TV running 24-7 anymore? I don't personally. No. All right. HunterKiller86 says the only bright side of World War III is Zephyrm Cochran will be able to make a warp drive in the aftermath TV running 24-7 anymore. I don't, personally. No. All right. Hunter Killer 86 says, the only bright side

of World War III is Zephram Cochran will be able to make a warp drive in the aftermath and when he tests it, he will initiate first contact with the Vulcan race and start us on a path

to Starfleet. Fair point. I learn so much every time I'm here. Kurtalinga says, Tim, I saw your video about Cassandra earlier. If everyone valued loyalty

the way you do, the world would be a much better place. True. Bravo, good sir. And I will also clarify, clarify too because people are mad at cassandra because she had uh a tweet about a paraglider from gaza and she said impressive but it was before and so they're trying to act like she tweeted after when we knew that the paragliders they have just decided they hate her and that's ridiculous yeah as a jew let me just say she's been so nice to me i've never met

anyone that was so nice and she just wants peace and so and i will stress too because like we're getting these people being like who's tim booking now it's like bro all of our guests are booked like two months out that's crazy and yeah so like everybody we've had on the past week it's because they were already booked yeah not because we were like hey look war happened in israel let's book these specific people i don't know are you supposed to now be like, no, guys, we have to have way more Jewish people on to appease the internet? That sounds way more creepy and discriminatory in my opinion. Some dude made a video where he's

like 21% of Tim Kess's guests are Jewish. It was 21.9. He went deep. He really calculated it. And there's no way to appease the internet, Hannah Clare. No. But I found out that we book Jewish people at 10 times the national average maybe we should hire that guy to do some data analysis on the company he's he's really into

it i'm like man cassandra they're accusing her of being anti-semitic but she she books jewish guests at 10 times the national average i love how we get accused of being shills for israel and now they're criticizing cassandra for criticizing israel and i'm like dude and some of them are conservatives too they're they're attacking our diversity and i don't like it cassandra's booked people who are like very pro israel yeah i think we have like some pretty pro israel people coming here this week too but they're booked in advance we didn't book them on purpose sometimes we get lucky like we'll book somebody and we'll book like just a figurative like uh you know the the head of the national bakers association on the same day the bakers are going on strike and we're like wow how did

that happen you know just didn't that happen with uh crowder and candace and stuff and that whole thing broke down i think we had we had booked candace well in advance right you had booked candace in advance yeah that crowder came on because it was the timing but the candace one is like that was how it just worked i liked i liked when we had dan lyman on and elon musk was at the border like the hour before and it's like good we have a border person talking about the news stuff like that yeah it's cool i did not schedule uh elon musk trip to the border all right let's see cordo mali says massad was blindsided by this are they so inept so convenient that we forget about israel's crimes when they get attacked i have have no love for Palestine, but the biases on this show are showing. Now, I think the issue is we're not talking about anything beyond what's literally happening

right now because I can't. And so for people to come to me and be like, well, what about Israel? There's a lot of no idea. I don't know what you're talking about. And also like from what Hamas said, like five people knew about it. Like a lot of people knew that because they knew this was happening. They were trained people for it. They train people to do something. They don't tell them what it's for

and then when you go and do it you know suddenly you're over the border and you're actually doing it so arch phantom says y'all are so warped tell me this was nat turner wrong to rebel against the slave masters that's the analogy and again y'all are warped i will say this unequivocally that john brown was a psychopath and a bad person he was also a famous abolitionist who is cheered on by a lot of people the only problem was he murdered a bunch of people and that's crazy i understand slavery is bad dude no question but like i don't know i just i can't advocate for a dude who gets his kids whipped up and goes around just murdering people like does not not the way you do things maybe 200 years ago so the issue right now is if y'all are arguing there's something bad happening between israel and palestine and gaza

and the loss of land and all this stuff it's like what do we do about it propose a solution and then i bid you good luck sir that's it the idea that hamas is justified in killing civilians because they're slaves no it when people were like it's an open-air prison if if someone was being held captive as a slave and they escaped broke their chains ran full speed away from the plantation and the first thing they did was they ran up to some like 20 old white woman and just murdered her mercilessly it's like okay like what i don't understand what that has to do with fight like escaping for your freedom yeah or whatever freedom wasn't the goal it was revenge right yeah or or retribution retribution or war or whatever yeah if if if the slaves broke free and started like murdering a bunch of random people in and around the areas

because they were party. I talked about this before. Using Game of Thrones as an analogy. Daenerys Targaryen takes over this city full of slaves and then she immediately executes all of the upper class and slave owners. And then they have a scene brilliantly written where a guy

comes in for an audience with Daenerys and says, my father was a good man who was fighting to end slavery and you executed him. The idea of just everyone who is an oppressor is fair game. Settlers are not civilians. It's insanity. It's insanity. So you're saying we're warped? Bro, I tell you, you're warped.

If you think it was justified for Hamas to go kill children and kill random people driving in their cars, Israel released footage to journalists. A journalist from UnHerd, I trust UnHerd, they do a pretty good job, described these videos in detail. I would have preferred to have seen them myself. So I'll reserve absolute judgment saying I take it with a grain of salt. Do you agree that Israel puts out fake stuff too, just like Hamas does? I don't have any recent examples, but I would assume that is 100% likely that they're putting out fake information. Yeah, because there was that one picture where there was like a child's book on the floor

and there was blood and people analyzed it and said, well, blood doesn't look like this when it dries. Doesn't dry pink. Right. Yeah. Don't know enough about it. And my actual, I've not issued a direct response on that. My response there is there's no point in in

speculating on what you don't know i i don't understand so when i saw that photo i didn't tweet about it why because i have no idea and making an argument without proof i just think is fanning the flames so that's why i i i i i'm critical of the argument that israel knew in advance and used their advantage because that kind of innocent people in Israel were killed and it shifts the blame on the people who killed it or it deflects a tiny bit like off of the murderers onto. Well, the government knew about it as if as if it makes it Netanyahu's fault. Like, but don't you think you owe it to your objectivity to at least investigate and see if the Israeli government lied about it? Because if they lied about that, who knows what else they lied about? Lied about the book.

Doesn't it open up? I did investigate it. What more can you find? There's a picture of a book. Okay. Well, that's weird. Next question. If they poured fake blood over it, I think.

How do you know? What can you do? How do you investigate it? Well, you could say the same for some of the reports that you're blaming on. Absolutely. Which is why I said when unheard put out a statement saying they saw the videos i take it with a grain of salt because i've not seen them myself yeah but when you watch a video of hamas soldiers shooting people it's like is this a sound stage that was faked i mean the preponderance of evidence occam's razor would

suggest no you're looking at videos of people who are cheering for hamas and screaming al-huakbar murdering civilians and there's videos of this and there is just like absurd amounts of evidence just uh justin amash put out a video where he said his family had as direct family members were killed in an airstrike by by israelis you have people who are who are jewish saying these are my family members who are kidnapped and killed in in in israel i don't think these people are lying to me uh right that's all that's all i can say right so my point on the netanyahu thing is people have actually tried to come out to argue that israel the government knew this was going to happen and i'm just like what's the point of speculating on that with zero evidence even for even charlie

kirk i'll criticize charlie kirk what's the point of even saying that it's an interesting thought of a possibility with zero evidence suggests it's true. Because I don't think there should be blind loyalty or blind faith to anyone but Jesus Christ. And I think, you know, I've been following... But that's not blind loyalty. It's like... It's blind loyalty to not question the possibility that someone did do the wrong thing. And I've been following...

But no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Questioning Netanyahu with zero evidence. Let's play this game. Did you know that, has anyone asked whether or not the United States actually told Hamas to do it? I mean, think about what's going on in the United States. The distraction now that emerged, fracturing the culture war. I mean, the benefits to Joe Biden at a time when his approval rating was in the gutter.

Ukraine was, I mean, what's the point of saying anything like that? I could speculate 50 million ways people benefited and didn't benefit from this. And so all that's happening is Hamas killed people and then go, yeah, well, I bet Netanyahu knew. Has anyone asked that question? And I'm like, sure, we'll get to that after we deal with the people who murdered a bunch of civilians who we know did it and did it on camera. Yeah, I just I think it's not one of the situations where you can just look through a narrow lens. I think it is two parties

involved clearly. And I've been following AF posts on a lot of this stuff because I can, you know, look to them for objective news and I've been following it and I'm seeing reports out of Egypt that they gave them a tip and they said this was going to happen. They said that there was going to be some kind of an attack. There was going to be something happened. Well, I think that that gives Israel the fore fourth knowledge that okay we may get attacked so let's you know strengthen our borders let's get you know gear up our defense systems this is the issue dome goes down it does speak to my objectivity and you are very biased is you don't know what the information israel gave us you don't know the value of it you don't know who was given to you don't know if it was taken seriously it's

a meaningless news report israel may have war may have been warned by Egypt warned of what did Israel? What if Egypt says we think from from the West Bank? What if Israel said from from the north from Lebanon? What if they said it may come from Syria? We have no idea what Egypt said. We get this vague report that Egypt said something. The quote was something big. Well, isn't it confirmed that they shut their military down for seven hours? I don't know that. But those are things we should explore.

We shouldn't just say, oh, well, I don't know. But who says we're not exploring it? Because it's bad if Netanyahu stood idly by while his fellow countrymen were being slaughtered and carnage was being left behind. Right, so the issue is that that is made up, right? What do you mean? What is your evidence that Netanyahu stood down intentionally with foreknowledge to allow this to happen for political benefit? There are reports of it.

What report? Seven hours that the military was given in order to stand down. What's the source? I'll give it to you. You know, it's also like it was a holiday, I believe. It was Sukkot. Yeah, Sukkot. That's right.

Yeah, I was thinking about that when we woke up on october 7th and there was this horrifying massacre and the reports were coming in and i was thinking um ben shapiro hadn't said anything ari hoffman who's at the post-millennial who's also orthodox he hadn't said anything and i realized like you know orthodox jews around the world are not going to know about this until sunday and i just yeah i just really on the tv and stuff right yeah you can't do that so i mean i just started a i was just praying for them to be able to withstand this once they knew and for their families and for you know i gotta read this one's a good one uh john john sarah uh sarah sanguinis good name

says 51 of amer Americans voted for Biden equals America supports Biden going to World War Three question mark. Let me break it down for you. Fifty one percent of Americans do not support Joe Biden. Joe Biden has awful support. Isn't it like thirty six? Thirty nine. Yeah, it depends on where you're looking.

The aggregate might be like forty one. But let's make the argument that 51 percent of Americans did vote for Joe Biden. Joe Biden then goes to war in ukraine with russia should russia be like well we can't go to war with the united states because it's their government doing it not their citizens or is russia going to say we are being attacked by the united states we fully recognize that not everyone in the united states wants this to happen and we want to minimize civilian casualties, but we are currently being attacked so we will respond. That's the point. I pulled up the article, by the way.

It's the peoplesvoice.tv according to Jewish Pro-Life Foundation. What is the peoplesvoice.tv? It's a website online. According to Jewish Pro-Life Foundation leader Cecilia Rautman, the IDF was given stand-down orders both the Army and the Air Force seven hours to stand

down while those attacks took place and it was fact checked it says so like did they say that after the attack started yes i mean during the attack it says during the hamas assault that's that seems weird that's why and lauren witsky reported on as well netanyahu ordered the israeli military to stand down for seven hours during the Hamas invasion. I sat down with Jewish charity leader, Cecilia. She reported on your show. Has anyone asked anyone that's in the IDF if they actually sit down? Because that's like, you know, just ask them.

By all means, I encourage people to investigate and report on things like this, but forgive me if I don't choose to use the people's voice.tv as a credible source well lauren whiskey reported on it though and she was just here and uh that doesn't mean anything either like my the issue is anyone can write any article about any number of conspiracies as to what resulted in this going down and so what we do know is Hamas wants to kill Israelis. Many in Hamas just, I want to kill all Jews anywhere. They're chanting, even the United States from the river to the sea. They broke in, they killed a bunch of civilian citizens, old people captured, tourists were killed, children were killed. And then I don't understand why there is this circuitous argument made for Netanyahu standing down, even from Charlie Kirk.

It's speculative. It has no direct evidence. It has a report from the People's Voice TV. But let's be fair and say any report anywhere that relies on I spoke with someone who says it happened. Well, this lady named Ifrat Finningson, she's a journalist in Israel. She writes for Bereshit News. She said that Israel citizens in Israeli towns near Gaza Strip begging for help from Israeli police or army, and they're not there. Six hours after this nightmare started, what happened to the strongest army in the world?

How come border crossings are wide open? Something very wrong here they got caught off guard well she's sick i answered it i gave you occam's razor but the military was told to stand down where that's why they were caught off guard that's what you want to believe to be true i don't want to believe it then why are you citing why are you citing a single person who said i talked to a person my point is an article i i i i don't think an article from a person I've never heard of is evidence enough for me to believe a circuitous conspiracy about the government choosing to stand down to allow their own citizens to be massacred to justify war for some reason. Well, Times of Israel reported that a top U.S. lawmaker affirmed Cairo warned Israel days before the onslaught. I

mean, there's just a handful of warnings. And the quote is something big. Right. And what does that mean? I'm just saying that this handful of warnings paired with a seven hour halt it just is it's odd and seven hour halt is not proven and a big warning is vague what you are doing is you are choosing to interpret two vague things to your narrative well when a person inside israel with connections to the government says something who i'll pull it up for you that's in this article the guy i just named, his name is Cecilie Routman. It's interviewed by Lorne Witsky.

He is a pro-life foundation leader, works with the government. What does that mean, works with the government? I mean, he's a pro-life foundation leader, so he works with legislators,

I assume, to So he's not actually in government? Works with the government. So he's just a guy who... So I work with the government because I've done a show with Matt Gaetz. Okay.

So I just don't know why he would say the idea of... We work with local government all the time on all our business endeavors. We're not in the government. We have no privy knowledge. So then the question becomes this. Let's assume that the seven-hour stand-down was true. Now the question is,

for what reason was it there? You, once again, are making the leap that it was an intentional act to allow the civilians to be killed with no evidence. I'm making the common sense conclusion that Netanyahu, with one of the most formidable intelligence agencies in the world, there's no chance that he stood by and let that happen. There's no way they just missed it. There's no way. That's amazing faith in the power of the intelligence the mossad is revered for their reach and for it doesn't matter you

can have whatever opinion you want on massad but none of this is evidence well it's just speculation and so i i take occam's razor's approach okay and that is the simple solution tends to be in the absence of evidence the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct that may not be absolute but uh i would argue there's a tendency towards you will more likely be correct if you go down that path. All the leaps you've made are meaningless to me because there's not evidence. I have an idea that seems to make sense. Well, it might make sense, but it doesn't mean it's true. We don't have the facts yet. And folks that are supposed to be the pioneers of finding the facts are saying, oh, well, we don't need to find the facts because obviously there's this group here who killed a bunch of people.

So they're obviously the ones in the wrong. I think that several people could be complicit here in the same rage that you share for Hamas that I share with you. I share for the leaders who allowed it to happen. Well, you can argue they allowed it to happen and that they failed, but that's about it. They failed and they were complicit is what my argument is. And I don't think that- Without evidence. Those people, no, it's not without evidence.

You don't have any evidence they were complicit. That's just an absurdity. I don't have any evidence that they weren't complicit. This is, okay, we're going to go to members only, but I'm going to say this. This is why I absolutely hate this subject. Bro, you are wildly speculating without proof of anything and you are adamant you are correct when you are not. Okay? There is no proof Netanyahu stood down intentionally to allow his citizens to be killed for political benefit.

I don't think someone as poised as Charlie Kirk in the political world would just write a tweet and say, Hey, I'm speculating that Netanyahu did that. I don't think he is. I don't think he is. That's fine. You're allowed to think what you want but i don't think the immediate lashing that he faced for saying that also makes it look like he was wrong but you're you're allowed to think what you want but my point is you don't have proof my proof is that warnings were given days ahead most side is the strongest intelligence agency in the world i think

there's a lot of things oh did you know i'll tell you what the warnings were the warnings were that uh a large pizza party was going to be had you know how i know that i made it up like you did i'm not i i think you don't know what that warning was you've chosen to you you've chosen a narrative path without proof i don't i don't do that it's not it's not true there's been multiple reports and many many outlets have reported on those you don't know what the warnings are the warnings the warning we know that a warning was given quote something big we don't know what they were told if israel was told hey something big's coming from from lebanon hezbollah is going to make a move that's not evidence of a hamas attack and we don't know the degree to which

israel was warned and how how it means anything if you're going to take action without a complete picture you will end up causing harm causing damage and fine and then and then regretting your actions i don't want to cause damage to anybody and the whole time this conflict has gone on i've been saying i want nothing but peace i want people to stop killing each other i want civilians and kids lifeless bodies to stop being carried in the streets of gaza and israel and that's fair and so my claims but if you if you claim that netanyahu did it intentionally without proof, you are actually exacerbating the problem. You are escalating the conflict.

Netanyahu has been under corruption investigation for years now. It has nothing to do with what's going on. It does, though. When you have someone who has a track record of being corrupt, I wouldn't put it past them to stand idly by while their countrymen are killed. Trump is under investigation as well well israel is all is a lot more poised to support netanyahu especially since he served for like 16 years and so i just don't see i don't see them doing that kind of injustice i think they're they're obviously using the government to attack trump here because they know he's the saving grace of our country we've got to elect him if we're gonna i don't think they think that i don't think that's why they're doing i think they know that

he's a threat to the swamp i think know that he's a threat to the swamp. I think they know he's a threat to the swamp. Okay. And I think he's a threat to the establishment, and they know that, and that's why they're trying to throw everything at him. So this is what I refer to as blind zealotry, right? You're saying you want less conflict and no more dead kids,

but then accusing Netanyahu of intentionally allowing civilians to die. To to justify political conflict, and that is an argument for escalation, not de-escalation. To justify political conflict. How you are saying that Netanyahu, you're advancing even Charlie Kirk's argument. I disagree with things wrong. Netanyahu intentionally allowed this to happen through a stand down order after after being warned by egypt and knowing it was coming you're arguing that he ordered the army to stand down to allow a thousand plus israeli civilians including children to die and be taken hostage to because he was facing corruption investigations to benefit himself politically that is an argument for escalation no no but absolutely is if if what you are saying is true. Retribution. Justice.

If what you're saying is true, that Netanyahu did that, it would require an international, on the part of Iran or other nations, move to remove Netanyahu from power. Yeah. Yeah, you're calling for escalation. I'm calling for justice to be carried out and people

who were complicit in this attack to face that justice. Okay, so if Netanyahu was complicit, what's the action that should be taken? Well, they were complicit in this attack to face face that just okay so so if nanyan was complicit what's the action that should be taken well they're not registered in the icc so i they can't i don't know if they can go to international criminal court but so a military force should go in and they violate geneva conventions there should so you're calling for a military action in israel to remove their government no no no that's not what i'm calling for i'm calling for a tribunal to be for people to come and answer for their crimes. So Netanyahu should be arrested?

I think so. How do you arrest him? Who arrests him? They're not registered with the ICC, so I don't know, but that doesn't stop me from pointing out the inconsistencies. But you're saying someone should go in

and stop Netanyahu? Yes, someone should. And that requires use of force. Maybe Hamas should do it, eh? I think you can belittle you think it should be Hezbollah

you guys are all wrong obviously everyone needs to go perhaps it should just be Iran and that's just it no more international governments

just golden balls if you want to be right you have to come here and I'm sorry but that's when we need him we gotta go to the members only

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