Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #889 Trump Lawyer PLEADS GUILTY, Jenna Ellis Latest To FLIP On Trump w/Kash Patel
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Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis today pleaded guilty in the Georgia election case and a lot of people are, let's just say, mildly perturbed.
Jenna Ellis raised somewhere over $200,000 to fight these charges and is receiving criticism for, in the end, just accepting a plea deal
and then apologizing to the court, saying she regretted everything she did and one by one the dominoes fall this is this
is i i've i have trouble understanding how any of these people could have taken the position they've
had during 2020 and then just flip in the way they did but this is going to uh be somewhat
troublesome for donald trump however he's also filing to have one of the january 6 cases dismissed
on double jeopardy grounds, which is
really, really interesting as well. So we'll talk about that. Plus, of course, you know,
there's like World War III stuff happening. Iran is once again attacking U.S. targets.
The U.S. is ramping up its forces in the Mediterranean. And there's this really funny
video going around where this Gen Z guy, it's like he's trying to say he won't be drafted,
but then it's basically him begging not to be drafted.
Like, you want me to fight for this country? I don't want to do it.
And it's like, oh, boy.
Look, I like very few Gen Z relatively voted, but the ones that did overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.
So, hey, this is Biden country, baby.
At the very least, if you didn't vote for the guy, well, I'm sorry it's happening to you.
And this is why you got to vote for Donald Trump.
But let's we'll talk about that before we get started.
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is Kash Patel. Hey, it's great to be back with you. Just coming off the heels of my book launch.
Yes, selfish plug, Government Gangsters.
The Biden administration spent 10 months trying to block its release.
Had to go to federal court and sue to get it out.
Wow.
You got to understand what's in there.
Donald Trump launched on Truth Social a couple of weeks ago.
Already a bestseller.
He calls it the roadmap and blueprint for 2024.
Basically, it's how you destroy the deep state.
And I name every government gangster I ever encountered by name and title and i also put the government receipts in there the biden administration
came back and said national security secrets can't go to print they redacted less than 0.05 percent
of my book at the end of the day 0.05 0.05 the same juicy the same seven words eight times over
really it's hilarious can you not say the words? I can after the show.
It's kind of funny,
but like, you know,
it's hilarious.
But that's the whole thing,
you know,
and so go to
governmentgangsters.com,
get your signed copy today.
Help me crush the deep state.
Right on.
Yeah, everybody buy it.
We'll get it to the top.
It's on Amazon.
It's on Amazon.
We'll get it to number one.
Amazon, Target,
all that stuff.
Yeah, really great.
Thanks for hanging out, man.
Should be a blast.
We got Hannah Clare hanging out.
Yeah, hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimel.
I'm a writer for timcast.com.
That's a fantastic book recommendation. If the Biden administrationare hanging out. Yeah, hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. That's a fantastic
book recommendation. If the Biden
administration doesn't want you to read it, you should buy it immediately.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm with TimCast News, and Brett's here also.
Yes, hello. I am Brett Dasavick.
I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday
through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard
Time, right here on YouTube.
And I am Serge.com.
I just got a Truth social account boom three new
truth social users let's go right as well right now oh there we go it's about to be donkey kong
on there donald trump has been going bananas on truth social and it's just gonna get better time
to retruth stuff yeah i can't wait to do some retruthing anyways guys that doesn't sound like
propaganda at all let's jump into this first story from the New York Times.
Jenna Ellis, former Trump lawyer, pleads guilty in Georgia election case.
Three lawyers in debt with Trump for trying to three lawyers in debt with Donald Trump for trying to overturn the 2020 election results will now cooperate with prosecutors in the racketeering case.
I believe this makes four guilty pleas.
And Sidney Powell got six years of probation.
And then the other three got five years.
Jenna Ellis got five years.
I believe she also got 100 hours of community service.
And pay a fine.
We have the video here.
I'm going to play it for you.
We're going to listen to what she had to say.
Audio's good?
Yep.
Thank you, Your Honor, for the opportunity to address the court.
As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously. And I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings.
In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, I believed that challenging the results on behalf of President Trump should be pursued in a just and legal way.
I endeavored to represent my client to the best of my ability.
I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide me with true and reliable information, especially since my role involved speaking to the media and to legislators in
various states. What I did not do, but should have done, Your Honor, was to make sure that the facts
the other lawyers alleged to be true were in fact true. In the frenetic pace of attempting to raise
challenges to the election in several states, including Georgia, I failed to do my due diligence.
I believe in and I value election integrity. If I knew then what I
know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post-election challenges.
I look back on this whole experience with deep remorse. For those failures of mine,
your honor, I have taken responsibility already before the Colorado bar who censured me,
and I now take responsibility before this court and apologize to the people so uh i i hope
i hope several other states file criminal charges against her and she goes to prison for a very very
long time did you hear what she said she she confessed to trying to uh overturn an election
a duly elected joe biden she confessed to doing it. No, in all seriousness,
I think it's fair to say she's opened the door legally by stating that in Georgia and many other
states, she did this. She did this thing. And if there are other states in which Democrats
have any kind of legal capability, they could charge her as well and then make her go through
it all over again. The biggest mistake all of these people are making, in my opinion, is taking the plea
deals.
I've heard a lot of people say the cases against these individuals in Georgia is so weak that
the prosecutors didn't want to go to trial.
And I'm like, then you go to trial.
Then you say that's the reason to do that.
Yeah.
This shows she was terrified.
And so I'll say this just on the surface. If it is true that she and many others knowingly lied to commit this crime, then I think they're getting off easy.
Otherwise, she genuinely believed she was doing her constitutional duty and providing a legal service to an individual who's seeking a redress of grievances.
And now she is betraying not just that individual, but country so in that case lock her up see if i care she'll get she'll get no
defense from me and not to mention we'll get into it a little bit but like the hundreds of thousands
of dollars she raised a lot of people are really upset about this you know what does it mean to
give someone's legal defense she paid her lawyers with the money does it mean she's taking it all
the way some people were saying she should take a plea agreement but i'm curious uh what you think man i
mean you worked in the administration yeah look i was a prosecutor as a public defender um the
interesting thing about this entire case i mean put aside the fact that i don't think there's a
basis to bring it but let's put that on pause for a second and the first three guys out of the gate
that flipped are lawyers and what does that mean? What did they actually do?
Having been in the Trump administration and around the boss
and literally talking to him every week,
these guys didn't really do anything.
So, okay, what are they going to say?
Are they going to break attorney-client privilege,
which they don't hold, President Trump holds,
and commit a felony and get disbarred and get prosecuted
just to say Donald Trump is guilty of X, Y, or Z.
And they're not stupid people.
I think the reason they pled guilty is they know the crimes are bogus, but they came in
there with so many slews of felonies.
So it's like, oh, you're looking at 85 years.
We'll get you on one.
And this jury pool sucks.
It's somewhere in Georgia that is a county that is like 88 pro biden so they're
going to get convicted so they're just trying to stay out of jail pleading to misdemeanors but
i would really like to you know and i also looked at no no that's a felony i'm pretty sure jenna
ellis was she pled guilty to a felony i'm pretty sure it was a felony and and i and i because i
was reading it and i thought it was uh because sydney powell was like six misdemeanors and they
kept right dropped all she's the first one to go though. I mean, they gave her the best deal. Yeah.
I want to check
because the story I was reading earlier, I'm pretty sure she
was the one that was a single felony, which was
I thought was interesting.
Yep, yep, yep. She pleaded guilty to a felony
charge. So no more
traveling outside the country. Good luck.
It's one count of aiding and abetting false
statements and writings
for stuff she said to the Georgia Senate. No, no. If you commit a felony and it's it's one count of aiding and abetting false statements and writing and writings for stuff she said to the georgia no no if you commit a felony and it's in the favor of the democratic
party like kevin clinesmith the fbi attorney who lied to the federal court about cia documents
he got reinstated to the bar last year and has a seven-figure job now well he's more trustworthy
right so this is coming along with her book deal and her tell-all and i think it's part of the
process it's why you heard from that white House intern who made her up of her lies and launched her bogus book.
But this is what they do.
The media captures them and says, we're going to launch you to –
You know, part of me says I don't blame any one of these individuals for taking the deal because they all took the deal, right?
It is a sign of the weakness of the anti-establishment faction in this country that they don't actually
stand up for anything and then you look at uh we talked about this this uh famous makeup artist
whatever her name was you know her line is huda beauty i can't remember her last name she posts
in favor of palestine gets a whole bunch of backlash and she says i don't care don't buy
my products i stand for what i believe and i I'm like, man. Okay. I mean, these leftists are willing to just sacrifice everything for their business, their
company, their money.
You've got a whole bunch of reports of people getting fired from their jobs.
They don't care.
It's always been this way.
I mentioned this with BLM, the guy who worked at Taco Bell, put on a BLM COVID mask and
they said, you can't wear that.
And he goes, I refuse to take it off.
And they said, if you don't take it off you're fired and he goes fine. Goes outside, films a video
and says I got fired for Black Lives Matter
and then the company apologized
oh we're so sorry. What do people on the right do?
They take a plea deal.
What did Jenna Ellis do? She was a lawyer
who was approached by a client who says
here's my argument. Can you draft
this for me? And she goes oh yeah we'll go
through it and we'll advise you on it. And that was it. She was, she was, she had one count under Rico and one
count of, uh, I believe soliciting a public official or something like that. Two, two charges
is what she was facing. And she took a felony plea deal, hundreds of thousand dollars and is crying.
What I, what I genuinely believe is that jenna ellis legitimately thought she was representing
her client in 2020 and is now terrified and would rather sell you out you out all of us out in this
country so that she can disappear but this is a part of like this is an established practice
if you're in trump world and you're in trump orbit and you get jettisoned for not doing your job properly there, not only is it a scarlet letter, it's an act of vengeance.
Look at the gal that's on the not the Today Show, but the view.
Right.
That's one example.
The other intern that wrote the White House book.
As long as you get jettisoned from Trump world and are willing to play ball, I guarantee you every one of these people has a book deal lined up, has a show lined up and is now guaranteed not to go to
prison and like you said they don't have any morals they don't have any convictions all they
have to do is just say what they want and they're going to be famous they're going to go to hollywood
and la and people are going to put them on their shows and they're going to be the greatest saviors
of america if if sydney powell of all people michael flynn's attorney i gotta remind your
audience sydney powell was michael flynn's attorney who up to overturn that case and and and if if if she of all people will flip on trump why would anyone hold the line yeah
they they just watched it's like being on the battlefield and watching george washington drop
his pants and cry and run from the battlefield i shouldn't compare her to george washington but
i'm saying like a bunch of regular people are watching Sidney Powell go on TV and scream and bang her fist and say, I will not back down.
The viral video first saying I will not be intimidated.
And then as soon as they're like, we're criminally charging, he starts crying.
He's like, please, I'll do anything you say.
This is a woman who was one of the people smiling in her mugshot.
Right. She presented this.
She was too.
She presented this intensity to an extreme degree degree how can we have a country where
we're saying you know we're anti-establishment you've got to confront the values here you have
to stick by these things and then you have these uh people immediately turn i mean obviously it's
what the democrats want but in some ways to me it really foils the motion that trump filed today
in his january 6th case saying you know you should dismiss the case because of first amendment and
double jeopardy but one of the lines in the case was under the First Amendment, Trump and his
supporters have the right to question and doubt what the government tells them. And so this idea
that like she knowingly promoted false information, number one, did she know it was wrong? And under
the First Amendment, doesn't she have the right to doubt it? I mean, it is sad to see someone who
could have argued a really articulate message in court take the plea deal. I understand that there's pressure.
On the other hand, if we're a values-based movement, you need people who are willing to defend their values.
The bravado is always so much more so online than it is in the real world.
But also, like you said, for somebody like you were talking about the makeup, she was a makeup distributor, right?
She's signaling to her base who's going to support her anyways. But when somebody who's
anti-establishment on the right is pushing back, they feel a lot of the times like they're out on
a life raft once they actually put themselves out there like that, because where is there to go
if it all falls through and they start coming at you with criminal charges that you do have to,
you know, especially if they have a family, if they have kids and stuff like that,
they're thinking about what that's going to be. I'm not saying that's right, wrong. I'm just
saying I understand where the mindset comes from, where at the end of the day, a lot of these people are going to put themselves and their loved ones first over the movement because that's just hierarchy federal court, it's in state court. And what Tim said was they flipped.
That's the key for me.
Okay, what did they flip on?
But what they're doing is they're going out to the New York Times
and saying,
well, we got Trump's three top lawyers.
And as a guy from Trump world,
I'm telling you,
these people barely did anything for the boss.
And he came out and announced
that Sidney Powell wasn't even his attorney.
So what they're doing though publicly
is they're saying three Trump lawyers
have now pled guilty
to the election fraud scam case run by Donaldald trump they're trying it in the public
they're trying to get more and more dominoes to fall so that when trump gets the court in
georgia finally whenever that is they're going to say oh 14 defendants have pled guilty you must be
guilty by association where there's smoke there's fire and but where's the evidence because if they
had it this is the thing about you know about the new york times and these corrupt prosecutors if they had a recording
if they had you know the i got you moment the kill shot it would have leaked this is the evidence
no that's what i'm saying when they begin filing 14th amendment challenges to donald trump's 2024
candidacy they're going to say the court you have to say what's your evidence jenna ellis and cindy
powell confessed we have confessions your Your Honor. We have several confessions.
Oh, yeah, that Colorado case.
I mean, if they hadn't, to your point,
if they hadn't aced in the hole,
they wouldn't offer the plea deals.
They would want every single person
to go down for as long as possible.
No, yeah, as a prosecutor, I was like,
I don't want to, you're not going down for five years.
You're going away for 40.
But it means that they don't have anything.
Right.
What was the maximum, like if she had been,
if she had gone to court and tried her luck,
what was the maximum sentence she would have gotten? I think it's probably 20 years because it's a rico conspiracy
so would they would they would all the sentences be concurrent if not no it's up to the judge yeah
not at all like you could stack them you can hold she had two she had two charges yeah you can make
them consecutive um so it's a it's a total crap shoot but that 14th amendment thing this is just
another like hysterical thing.
Has anyone read the first sentence
of the 14th Amendment?
I know you guys have.
But it says, these individuals shall not.
And it names the vice president, the senators,
the members of the House of Representatives
and lower level offices.
You know who doesn't name?
The presidency.
The 14th Amendment by its first sentence
doesn't apply to the presidency.
And we have all these freaking lawsuits
around the country trying to disbar
or whatever the word is,
get Donald Trump off the ballot,
which is hilarious.
And this boondoggle in Colorado,
I think just forwarded the case on to say,
oh, this issue is ripe for decision making
because people are talking about it publicly.
So section three, I believe, correct?
Yeah.
No person shall be a senator
or representative in Congress
or elector of president and vice president or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States or under any state who is having taken an oath as a member of Congress or an officer of the United States or as a member of any state legislature or as an executive or judicial officer of any state to support the Constitution shall have engaged in insurrection, etc., etc.
So vice president and president are not in here.
It says elector of vice president and vice president.
The president is explicitly not in there. What you think the founding fathers just forgot well i mean this
was civil war era no i know but like they would have they were contemplating what if we have to
kick out these people from office they contemplated kicking out the president and they said no that
power is not going in the constitution i mean that was their decision hasn't been overturned in 250 some years
what where does this all go i mean supreme court the all of it yeah but i don't see the supreme
court right now siding against trump on this on this matter no it's not but it's going to take
like three years i can say how long will it drain resources yeah that's it i mean look they're doing
it to every like i've spent five hundred thousand dollars in attorney's fees on January 6th subpoenas, special counsel subpoenas. I'm just one of the guys. I mean, this is what they want you to do. Cop a plea, bend the knee, we'll give you the book deal. You know, Cassidy Hutchinson goes out in the world and lies. Literally, it's hilarious to me that her most promising statement of truth was President Trump reaching through the beast and trying to grab the steer have you been
in the beast i have there's bulletproof window between the driver and the car part of where
president what did she was she hulk did she punch through the glass window and how did she see trump
right and how did she even see it if someone told me that donald trump got really green and big and
then i'd have to believe it Jared Bruce Glass just gets out of
his way. They're too scared of him.
So he's the new Chuck Norris.
There's a Diet Coke.
He just looks at a new person apart.
It is hard to say like
what are you going to take? Are you going to take 500?
For a lot of these other people, right? It's 500,000
in legal fees minimum or
the book deal down the line
and your family doesn't.
Talk about winning the lottery. $1,000 in legal fees, minimum, or the book deal down the line and your family doesn't. Yeah, payday.
Yeah.
I mean, talk about winning the lottery.
You're getting multiple seven figures just for lying.
And you're going to be glorified in the media.
The back end of what we have to deal with is if you look up my name in the media, I might be the antichrist if you believe what the New York Times has said about me.
But they will just defame you. They will make stories they will attack your family death sentences i've gotten
those things at my house every other month because they they doxed me and let out my personal
information i mean this is what they do to you and the media it's never end it's never like you
that that pressure never gets turned off it's it's sad to me that there are people there are
very few people of conviction that you know this, when I was reading this story earlier on my morning show, I just, I don't understand the perspective of a person who would purport to hold certain values and then sacrifice them at a moment's notice.
I understand Jenna Ellis is a grifter.
Sidney Powell is a grifter.
This is what they are, right?
They said all these things they clearly didn't believe.
Because the question I often ask people is like, are you religious?
Yeah.
Christian?
Hindu.
Hindu.
If you were forced by a court to renounce your faith, otherwise you go to jail, would you do it?
They go pound sand.
I'll go to jail.
Right.
And I'm like, if you, and the reason I bring up religion is because this is something that people truly feel as a conviction they cannot sacrifice and i'm like to see people like this go
up in front of tv and be like this is true this is correct and then turn around and be like psych
well people who have really strong convictions are vilified by especially mainstream media i mean
let's look at owen schroyer who reported to jail today right he is someone who has strong
convictions and is treated like a complete other because of it by mainstream media if they talk about him at all and what's being done to
him because it's very difficult to spin his case. Jenna Ellis, this was her give, send, and go.
And it's the archive because it's been removed. She raised $216,000. This is an archive from
earlier today. And it's interesting because there are comments from people saying she should take
the plea deal because otherwise she's going to burn through all that money and 200k is not enough
to fight a legal battle like this especially against any government but there are a lot of
people who are furious and they thought that they were donating to fight the charges not for her to
just instantly okay that's the thing right she came in to be like okay you're going to be like
the stalwart here you're going to be the fact witness in this case that exposes the corruption of the deep state in the Georgia State Prosecution.
Do you think they turn on Trump and testify against him? is when you sign a plea agreement that says i'm pleading guilty you're saying you're cooperating i've done a thousand and one plea agreements every one whether you actually do down the road
99 of people never do because it never comes up but the substantive question for folks like her
and sydney powell and whoever the other person is is what do they have on trump like what do
they have a phone call and a recording that you know of conspiring of words?
No, exactly. Well and this AP News when they covered it
They were saying, you know
ultimately they're gonna call into question their credibility because these people were
Participating in what Trump is being convicted of and so it's easy to sort of say but you were doing it, too
Why are you turning on Trump?
I mean, they're not the stellar star witnesses that maybe the prosecution would want them to be you mentioned these book deals and these tv shows the only course of action that jenna ellis and sydney powell are going to have
is to become woke leftists well they're on their way neolibs because they cannot show their face
oh no in a trump rally oh it would they get tomatoes thrown at him boo i mean figuratively they're out to be the they
get to be the talking head conservatives on on the view and cnn yeah and talk about like cohen
they're gonna be like cohen oh i was so wrong no no it's like you were talking about you know
specifically these these three people they're in it for the attention they're not in it for
the convictions it reminds me of like 85 of the people that are in congress literally they're
there to get rich,
to get famous. They don't care about their convictions. Oh, I'll pass this budget deal
today and I'll sell my soul tomorrow for you because you're a big lobbyist and are giving
me a seven-figure payday. I mean, these people have made a career in DC out of these boondoggles.
And to me, this is just a different extension of that. You might not be in Congress,
you are going to get a golden parachute of monumental proportions for doing this nonsense but their their only course
of action is going to is going to be to do go the cohen route and be like oh yeah oh i was so wrong
and i'm i'm you know trump is bad all these all these former conservatives who now acted like
orange man bad like the lincoln project after 2020 they're like the job's not done we're not going after republican senators and it's like wait wait, they're like, the job's not done.
We're not going after Republican senators.
And it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, they're just going after children.
Oh, right.
But the Lincoln Project says we want to restore the party of Lincoln.
So we must remove Donald Trump.
And then once Trump's out, they're like, but we're going to go after other Republicans too.
And it's just like, right, because this is the grift.
Yeah.
That's the game.
Oh, it's a money-making scam.
Like these people are getting paid.
Like, if you guys actually knew
the amount of seven figures
that is doled out
by the Soros-funded boondoggles,
by all of these organizations,
they are so much more organized
than the Republicans ever will be.
I hate to admit it, but they are.
And they just stroke in checks.
I don't understand.
I just really, really don't.
They are evil, sick, twisted people.
I got to be honest.
There is a certain point where money doesn't do anything for you.
And I'm like, why sell?
Why destroy everything around you for something that you couldn't even really do anything with?
Like to elaborate, you get to a certain point of wealth.
And I quite literally mean this speaking from experience where it's hard to track things that you're buying and what you're investing in, and you hire people to do it.
And it's just like, for what purpose?
It doesn't enrich your life.
I mean, for me, a lot of the stuff we do here at TimCast is like investing in the projects, the missions, the people, the culture, building things like we bought a building because we're going to open a coffee shop. But for people in this world, when it comes to news and politics,
for what reason does Nancy Pelosi need $200 million net worth to sell out and destroy the
country? I'm sorry, some people are just evil. There are jobs that you don't really expect
people to make a lot of money in. And we hear politicians say i'm here for public service you know the most lucrative career i could have gone into the question for me is with these plea
deals they'll run out right we now have three people who are willing to testify at a certain
point georgia's going to want to have a pretty big show if we've convicted all these people
there are 15 co-defendants left so so let me ask you cash at a certain point they stop offering
plea deals because they've got they've got now three cooperating witnesses who will testify against the others.
Yeah, I think they keep going only because it's just it's free press.
Every day, Donald Trump's just a little more guilty.
Well, that guy's guilty.
That girl's guilty.
She's guilty.
Well, he's got to be guilty.
And then you get 15 people to testify against Trump.
And that's your evidence. In an Atlanta jury trial, which is like game over,
if it was a fair court where you could go in
and cross-examine these witnesses
and shred their credibility
based on their past actions, past statements.
These people have been on TV, on national TV,
saying the exact opposite
of what they're about to testify to under oath.
And you would destroy them, but it doesn't matter.
It's like a New York City jury.
They're going to be like, what?
And then wake up when the verdict's due and say guilty.
In this case too, look, this is going to go through the Georgia state court system,
then the federal court.
But the question is, are any of these cases actually going to get to a point
where Donald Trump is convicted before the next election?
And one of these crazy people actually puts him in jail, in prison.
Like one of these state court judges says, nope, you can have your appeal, but you're going in the clinic.
I think it's more so to drain his resources and make it impossible for him to campaign properly.
Well, it is.
I mean, look, if you have to be in court and not on the road, but take, for instance, I think only what Donald Trump can do.
And obviously I'm biased.
I'm his national security advisor.
But he's in New York city,
basically campaigning from the courtroom.
Like the guy comes out every 25 minutes and makes a statement and everyone
covers it.
He's on truth social punching out,
you know,
hits against era Cohen or whoever,
or the attorney general.
That's true.
I mean,
you know,
we're talking about these members of Congress who make all this money.
And you said like the most lucrative job.
Well,
a lot of the rank and file members of Congress, you don't even know their names.
They don't make any money.
And they're probably there for better reasons.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You got to Internet search the wealth of the average member.
Oh, yeah.
It's half of them are millionaires.
It's crazy.
But but my point is not every one of them succeeds in getting attention and getting access.
So for Donald Trump to be able to walk out of the courtroom every time they call him in
and get every eyeball in the country, that's something he could not pay for.
I mean, there are tons of journalists that are just on Truth Social to see what he says.
Well, let's jump to the story from TimCast.com.
Trump files motion to dismiss January 6th case citing double jeopardy in First Amendment.
This is interesting.
Former President Donald Trump has asked the U.S. District Court of Columbia to dismiss
special counsel Jack Smith's case against him for his alleged role in the events of
January 6th, citing the First Amendment and double jeopardy.
Quote, if there is any constant in our democratic system of governance, it is that the marketplace
of ideas, not the mandates of government functions, functionaries or partisan prosecutors determines the scope of public debate.
State Trump's reps in a filing.
Countless millions believe, as Trump consistently has and currently does, that fraud and irregular irregularities pervaded the 2020 presidential election.
As the indictment itself alleges, President Trump gave voice to those concerns and demanded that politicians in a position to restore integrity to our elections, not just talk about the problem, but investigate and solve it.
So I think what they're saying, here's a quote.
Additionally, as the United States Senate has previously tried and acquitted
President Trump for charges arising from the same course of conduct alleged in the indictment,
the impeachment and double jeopardy clauses,
both bar retrial before this court and require dismissal.
Is that true?
I mean, I'm not the constitutional lawyer. I think on
freedom of speech and First Amendment grounds, he should, because if you're not, well, the two-tier
system of justice again, right? If you're Nancy Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries, Hillary Clinton, you can
say the election was stolen, the election was rigged, this whole process sucks, I didn't win,
and then if you're Donald Trump, you're going to prison. So on that just basis alone, by the way, this judge could not be more corrupt and biased.
We can get into that if you want to.
Is that Chukin?
Yeah, I've literally been before her.
But the double jeopardy, here's a really crazy thing about double jeopardy.
And I only know this because I paid attention for like seven seconds in law school to try to pass the bar exam.
You can be charged in state and federal court for the exact same thing.
It's not double jeopardy.
You just can't be charged in federal court twice for the same.
Or the same state, I'm assuming.
Or the same state.
It can't be the same jurisdiction.
Right, right, exactly.
So on double jeopardy grounds, he's good if he's saying, no, this needs to go because
you already are alleging this in the South Florida case in Miami.
It's got to go.
Then he's got a strong point.
So these are both federal then?
These are both federal.
This has to do with the Miami DC case.
Right.
And if they're going to bring more charges or not.
Well, he was in bringing up.
It's interesting.
Impeachment is not the criminal case.
The argument is first they would impeach Donald Trump, then convict him,
and then after he's convicted,
they can file the criminal indictment
and seek to convict him on criminal charges.
Where? In Congress?
So the arguments as to why Donald Trump
can't be criminally charged yet
is that he has to be impeached for these things first.
But he's been criminally charged.
Right, right.
So the argument is,
I can't remember who wrote this.
We covered it several times.
Oh, I see the legal gymnastics you're talking about.
Well, there's a constitutional argument that you can't criminally charge members of the Trump administration or Trump himself.
Because it's the executive branch.
You have to seek impeachment.
Argument being, the president has broad leeway in taking actions for the benefit of this country or the direction of this country.
And if you believe the president has done wrong by this country, you have to impeach him, which is the statement of I challenge.
I hereby accuse you of wrong crimes and misdemeanors.
Then the Senate convicts him for doing it.
Then after we all agree, the president has broken his oath of office or whatever.
Yeah.
You then file criminal charges against him. That's a pretty good constitutional argument i mean it makes the most sense because because well if you if that was not the case any blue state could file
criminal charges against the president anytime it's state charges up the president committed a
crime and what how are we supposed to have a president if what like think about the civil war
when the states were upset with l like think about the civil war when the
states were upset with lincoln pre-civil war and the fears about imagine if virginia or alabama
was just like we're criminally charging the president well you couldn't that was the argument
he has to be impeached which is the agreement the president has committed high crimes and
misdemeanors and that is removed from office more so than just the i'll put it this way if that is not the standard then there is no
president a single state could challenge the results of an election by criminally charging
a president for anything so you need a federal level impeachment against him before you can try
and criminally charge him at a state level well you're not also not supposed to be able to be
able to charge him while he's sitting in office so it's going to be even interesting if he wins
2024 and what are you going to do well that's that that's that's that's exactly the argument uh
they're making is that the actions they are charging trump over happened while he was president
in which case i agree with that he should be immune from that prosecution because until he's
convicted of impeachment trial right then uh so totally on board with that because he was in
the white house he was he was still there saying whatever he was allowed to say and that's protected
but and i would i would say this too uh the reason why i have nothing but disgust for for those
lawyers like jenna ellis and sydney powell is that it is a it is not just a constitutional duty to
provide legal counsel to an individual it is not just a legal duty to provide legal counsel to an individual. It is not just a legal
duty to provide counsel to someone who is seeking a redress of grievances. It is an obligation for
Donald Trump, if he believes the election was stolen, to pursue all legal methods to investigate
and seek remedy. That would mean any lawyer who is taking up that job
has a duty to this country to make sure that's the case.
For Jenna Ellis to have lied in her previous statements
that she believed or that she, in her arguments,
for Sidney Powell to have lied or to have flipped now,
they're basically saying the fabric of this nation
means less to them than their personal comfort. Yeah, and what you're basically saying the fabric of this nation means less to them than their personal comfort
yeah and what you're also saying is that a president a sitting president is not entitled
to counsel is that the precedent we want to set is that the historical foundation we want to set
because you disagree with him politically and that decision should be adjudicated at the polls
and not in the courts of law are we going to now when president trump say he wins in 2024 are we going to go back and arrest based on this doj's precedent every joe biden
attorney that worked against electing president donald trump and provided advice to joe biden
saying it was okay to take classified documents out of the you know when you were vice president
senator i mean that's what they want us to do and i think they don't care because the mainstream
media will cover them and it'll just be orange man bad but it's a two-tier system of justice
they don't care well uh the argument is a three-tiered you've got uh the people who get
away with everything yeah the regular people that get ignored and never get any attention and then
the people who are arrested for everything you know so there are a lot of people who have have
talked about going to the police for help because of crimes and they are completely ignored.
That's true.
Go to DC.
Is a big reason.
A lot of this is going on that right now,
given the way approval rates are sitting,
are they worried that undecided voters who are looking for something
different who may are like,
look,
four years have gone by.
I maybe you forget a little bit of like a lot of these people who maybe
didn't vote for Donald Trump in 2020,
four years have gone by. Things have gotten bad enough now that maybe they're like, maybe I'm willing to go back to it is the idea to keep this in the news, keep him in trial,
not just in an actual trial, but the court of public opinion to keep voters from wanting to
swing back and possibly give him a shot this time around because you keep dirtying him up by keeping
him in the news with all these cycles. Well's the hope look remember the democrats aren't stupid they're evil and they're wicked
and they're geniuses at certain points in time when they collaborate together they don't want
joe biden to be their candidate they might not publicly say that but they're not they're not
morons what they're trying to do is both dirty up trump and biden at the same time and then they're
gonna be like no no we're you, we're going after both people,
but they want to give Joe Biden an exit ramp.
It's not an, it's not a coincidence.
There are no coincidences in government.
Major theme in my book that David Ignatius of the Washington freaking post comes out
and says, oh, Joe Biden, you've done so well, but please retire now.
That's not a coincidence.
That means the FBI DOJ gave David Ignatius the details of Hunter Biden's criminal case and Joe Biden's criminal case and said, if we don't get this guy out, this is what's coming.
And then we're going to indict him.
But if we just charge Hunter and we force Daddy Biden to commute his sentence, that's it.
Game over.
He can't be president.
I think there's a decent probability that Joe Biden gets indicted for the reasons you just outlined. They might have might have to go to that i'm saying that's their last option it's it's it's their but
it's their plausibility shield for middle of the road uninitiated they'll go to
dm eric garland who looks like a wet noodle every time he approaches a microphone him and him and
chris ray the worst fbi director in history will go to the microphone said we charge two sitting
presidents or whatever one former we're not biased we're not biased look at this charging
biden too where everybody biden's a criminal and i think they biden is the sacrificial lamb
it could come i think hunters their leverage point i think they get to that but here's the thing
they got to figure all this stuff out in the next 90 days yeah once you get past the iowa caucuses
they can't air mail in gavin newsom the guy they want to come in to be president.
Technically, if Joe Biden is incapable of running, it's something something will happen.
I mean, you're right in terms of a primary.
Yeah, but they'll they'll they'll they'll make it happen.
You know what I mean?
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why these articles are starting to come out from left wing organizations organizations that's not random no the government has called them and said hey
this is coming we need you to help us grease the skids get rid of this guy politely and then we'll
we'll glorify him for being the savior from trump that's what they will literally write about him
for decades to come if this play happens and half of america will buy it that's why i kind of think
a medical issue is the is the more likely out for joe biden you just have to watch him on tv
for like 30 seconds right on a medical issue but how do you uh how do you get kamala harris
out of the way how do you get joe biden to not run and how do you get a gavin newsom in
joe biden has a medical issue gavin newsom runs out on stage performs cpr saves the life of the
president i mean think about it and then kamala harris assumes the role acting president for the has a medical issue. Gavin Newsom runs out on stage, performs CPR, saves the life of the president.
I mean, think about it.
And then Kamala Harris assumes the role
acting president
for the remainder of the year,
but then says,
I really want to take
that Senate seat in California.
I need to return to my home state.
No, no, no.
She's going to go take
her $10 million payday.
But what you'll say is,
I am honored to have served
this country as acting president.
I took out Trump with Biden,
the greatest victor.
Right.
And I believe it is not in the cards for me to pursue an election with such short notice.
So I'd like to honor, you know, with honor and humility, offer up Gavin Newsom and ask him to lead this nation.
And then you get a Gavin Newsom.
That's why Newsom's probably, when's he, he's debating.
The same just on the 30th.
Which is.
November, November, November for, for, for Tater Ron to go in there and,
and accept this debate just shows you the disparity of where these two
individual,
you want to,
you want to know my conspiracy theories.
You can,
yes,
I do.
But once you don't want,
it's hilarious for your audience.
I go to engagements around the country for,
for Donald Trump all the time.
I do big events,
whatever.
What,
you know,
Ron DeSantis should call in for presidency when he could put more people in room than kash patel i mean this have you seen his events it's
sad here's what i think a year and a half ago we were talking about ron being president i mean tons
of outlets were before trump announced before he's back in the game and there was conversations
when trump was announcing that a trump de sant ticket would be unstoppable before desantis i remember being part of those conversations here's my conspiracy
theory special interests who uh establishment interests knew that was the case probably to
the polling data and says trump's a wild card that pisses people off but desantis stabilizes
his numbers by being that more boring regular politician we need to make sure they can never form that ticket
so they go to desantis whisper sweet nothings in his ears and you and you and i wondered this i say
it's a conspiracy i'm not saying it's i literally believe it's absolute i'm saying just entertain
the interesting thought based on this if you look at what ron desantis's campaign has been like
your only conclusion could be that he is being sabotaged.
Have you seen him wearing the high heels?
Oh, the cowboy boots with the big lifts?
Big lifts is an understatement.
He should have just gone straight to platforms.
The front of the boot is flat and bent,
like there's no foot in it.
It looks like his foot is pressed up
against the front of the boot
and there's a four-inch lift in them.
Now, I'm not saying I know for a fact that's true but these are the memes that are coming out you look at how um
you know ashley st claire made a joke about it and christina pushaw starts attacking her and i'm like
is is are like are they intentionally nuking the first thing i said was i believe that
ron ron detentis campaign staff are secret trump supporters who are intentionally nuking his
campaign to help Trump.
Then I thought about it and I'm like,
maybe the real goal is to stop DeSantis
from having teamed up with Trump
in the first place
because now that relationship
is beyond repair.
It's nuked.
Yeah, and I don't really understand
why it would not have been good for...
I know there's that whole thing,
you know, if you have your moment in politics,
you don't want to miss it,
but would DeSantis have suffered from being vice president?
You know, I don't think he would.
I mean, he can't be governor again, right?
Is any term limited?
So where does he go?
Vice presidency is not a bad idea, especially to gain official exposure on the national stage.
Or you give him a secretarial position in the cabinet, secretary of agriculture, whatever, right?
Education.
Education, have it out for like two years
or four years and you'd still only be 46 you know at the time of the end of the second trump
administration you can run in but i think there's it's not a conspiracy so you got to look at
desantis's top three donors ken griffin from citadel number one he's now actually conveniently
stopped giving ron yep but when it first started they went all in on the super pack and i know the
guys running that super pack they were always never trumpers and trump haters and flipped the
wagon as soon as it became convenient for them and they were the ones out there in the media
saying we are going to be the ones that save the republican party from donald trump and i remember
everybody excoriating trump for being like you can't make fun of ron you can't call him desanctimonious which is not the best nickname i will say i mean but here's the effect right
whether it was the best nickname or not trump's strategy was to kneecap him before that guy ever
got out of the gate and and everybody in the political arena was saying this is not going to
work and ron ron literally puts less people in a room than i do if i send out one true social it it
sounds like they said if if trump gets to send us on the ticket he's gonna we can't beat him there's
nobody who can run against them but nope nobody and so they were like let's let's go to desantis
and offer him tons of money and tell him he's the guy it's his it's his path convince him and then
once he betrays trump that's's it. We're done.
And then they walk away and they stop giving him money.
Isn't he like number five now already?
Like on the, what do you call it?
The GOP stakes?
He's not even like the second guy. I think he's number three in the prediction market.
But you mentioned this.
The donors have stopped giving him money.
They pulled out.
And that was a while ago.
And then he had that mass layoff.
Like they barely gave him any money at all.
It's kind of crazy.
But don't worry.
When he debates
gavin newsom who by the way will probably clobber him like you i don't like gavin newsom but he's
charismatic he's smart and he knows how to speak and debate and that's gonna be i'll actually that'll
be the one debate i watch i won't watch any of the gop ones uh but i'll watch that one look at this
uh uh nikki haley is in second place in the prediction market i never would have saw that
comment i gotta be honest she was doing well in new hampshire last i checked that's it's also hard Nikki Haley is in second place in the prediction market. I never would have saw that coming.
I got to be honest.
She was doing well in New Hampshire last I checked.
It's also hard for Ron to push back against Trump when it comes to the social media presence
because he is supposed to be this traditional politician
that was more of a quiet mind, you know, quiet face.
Yeah, like, so it's a lot harder in the social media age
when everything's a meme to push back
when people are saying that you're wearing high heels how do you how does somebody dignify you
know use dignity to get their way out of that right so you said that the the people that work
for him then say to ashley sinclair oh you're you're being rude for doing something like this
when that's that's not going to work not in the social media i mean you'd hope that he'd lean into
the fact that he's young and be like,
you crazy kids on social media with your jokes and ideas.
But instead it was just this crazy serious thing.
I mean,
like he could have gone boot shopping on Tik TOK and,
or like on reels or whatever,
and it might've been better,
but the,
the,
it really feels to me like the undercurrent of what's around him is looking
for a fight and they're feeling insecure. And again, I like you know i always say that we i don't want to short the
bench right like if trump is elected he will only he'll be a one-term president and he could do
incredible things but we have to keep the momentum going there has to be people after him and so
whether it's ron de santis or not we don't need it to be this crazy infighting led by people who
are feeling insecure about their campaign funny too because didn't like logan paul did the thing with vivek
and it became his biggest social media platform to to push his campaign ideas like ron probably
would have been better off figuring out a way to actually lean into the social media aspect of it
like this picture right here yeah who is that? I don't know,
but like,
doesn't it,
you look at his boots
and they're on the ground,
but it does look like
he's on his tippy toes.
It's just much more disarming
to people to laugh with them,
right?
And that's,
that's the reality.
But doesn't that break
his image, right?
His image is supposed
to be the person
who institutes policy
and then doesn't feel
the need to have
to clap back that's what
they liked about him right they like the fact that he was not the reactionary of trump but he did end
up clapping back and he could have been the guy that is like oh i'm so dignified haha i'll laugh
with you no but you're right you know you raise a good point like he could have just waited it out
a hot second been on a meteoric rise it would have been the dude, you know, come 2028, whatever that math is.
Instead, not only is he not the dude now, he's never going to be the dude in this generation.
Like he's 45. So maybe at 65, he could make a play like Trump did maybe in his seventies.
But right now he's gone. This Republican party is completely different. The people in the state
of Florida have to, everybody's like, Oh, Ron DeSantis doing a great job in the state of florida have to everybody's like oh ron de santis doing a great job in the state of florida he is yeah but do you know the vote structure in the state of florida
in 2022 ron de santis got four million votes in the state of florida in 2022 donald j trump got
5.1 million votes in the state of florida in 2022 or 2020 2020 excuse me right so what the year they
were both on ticket that's the spread in the state of Florida.
He was also losing a lot of the America First people, right?
Because they were like, look, neocon.
They immediately smelled neocon on him anyways.
Well, the donors. Yeah, and had a lot of questions about it.
So he would have had a lot of ground to make up there anyways.
Yeah.
I mean, there are things that, and I remember saying this at this time a year ago,
that there were things that I thought DeSantis could bring to, let's say, a debate stage and talk about really interestingly.
I mean, Florida is unique in the sense that it deals with a lot of illegal immigration that's unique to that region, right?
They have a lot of immigration from Cuba.
They have a lot of immigration from, oh, you good, homie?
Sorry.
Ron DeSantis just sent me, his team just sent me a message for a donor event
in Las Vegas where I live
I was like do you guys even know who you're
sending this stuff to anymore
are you gonna go
maybe you know why not you know maybe I'll go
in there and go and walk into Treasure Island
I can ask him about his boots the funny thing
is it's in Treasure Island which is Phil Ruffin's place
who's Donald Trump's best friend
be like three inch
lifts or four inch lifts.
Just take a picture next to him
because we were trying to figure out the height.
And look, and I was personally offended
as somebody who's short, you know,
I wanted him to win the short vote.
You wanted representation.
I wanted representation.
I wanted him to win the short vote.
Let's jump to this story from foxnews.com.
And maybe we'll give Rhonda Sandis
a little bit of praise here
after we just ragged on him.
The Sandis administration directs Florida universities to terminate student chapters that support Hamas terrorism.
Now, the first thing I thought when I saw this was this is a misplay.
This is Ron going too far in the culture war, targeting free speech from students.
I don't like that they support this stuff, but we want these far leftists to go out and talk about how they support hamas and then you actually read it ron desantis is
correct in this regard these individuals are not just speaking the let me read this the letter
states the student group present in at least two universities in florida known as the national
students for justice in palestine published a toolkit that refers to the Hamas operation as the resistance
and says that Palestinian students in exile are part of this movement, not in solidarity with
the movement. Quite literally, I believe that's a violation of federal law in providing material
support to terrorist organizations. So in this capacity, it goes well beyond just speech.
And it's difficult.
I always try to be careful, and I would personally require a lot of evidence and adjudication on this.
I don't want a government, a governor or president to be able to come out and be like,
Nope, you said you support terrorists, so we're shutting you down.
Like, no, no, no, we'll bring it to court.
You should be able to just do this.
They should have filed something that they should have to respond to. There should be a due process here. The letter explains that it's a felony under Florida law to knowingly provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization.
These chapters exist under the leadership of the National Students for Justice in Palestine,
who distributed a toolkit identifying themselves as part of the Operation Al-Aqsa Flood. Based on
the National SPJP JP's, sorry,
support of terrorism,
in consultation with Governor DeSantis,
the student chapter must be deactivated.
These two student chapters
may form another organization
that complies the Florida state statutes
and university policies.
The two institutions
should grant these two chapters a waiver
for the fall deadlines
should reapplication take place.
Now, my question here is,
if they genuinely believe
these individuals are supporting terrorism, why would they be like these individuals are supporting terrorism why would they be like just refile wouldn't they be like we are going to arrest
and charge you for this well what people always forget now especially is that hamas is a designated
foreign terrorist organization that has been the case for decades in republican and democratic
administration so that's leg one of this whole statute about,
you know, I used to prosecute guys for providing material support to terrorism. It can be arms,
it can be money, it can be planning, it can be whatever, right? Conspiring with them to do bad
stuff. So you have that piece of the puzzle. Are they a designated foreign terrorist organization?
But here's the thing. That's not Florida law. It's federal law, right? So anything in Florida
that speaks to that is superseded by federal law and material
support statutes.
So you're right.
I agree that if they're providing money to a foreign terrorist organization, it's material
support.
What if they claim to be and are providing labor?
Well, then you have to go to court and prove that you're providing labor that is not attributed
to terrorist activity.
Right. I'm saving babies in, you know, wherever and providing food to the homeless or something like that.
So we get into this. We get into this problem when we have all these humanitarian refugee camps, right, like across Syria.
And all of these donors want to give money. And you're like, well, we're giving it to all these people and known foreign terrorists who are in the camps that run the camp how are we going to what are we going to do with that
that's been an ongoing issue for a long time what do you think of tom cotton he had that he wrote
that letter to mayorkas saying we need to expel foreign nationals who violate federal law by
espousing support for hamas because you're not you're barred from it's look it's it's the law
like you know this doj won't actually do it because it's it's the doj along with the state department has to get together to make that you know injection
possible but what he's saying i think you have to break it down a little further than just expel
everyone if you are affiliated with a known foreign terrorist organization hamas in america
and you are supporting them in the very least you should be kicked out of the country
and more likely prosecuted what normally
happens you get prosecuted then you get stripped of your citizenship or residency status then you
get the boot do you think any of this is likely to happen no not this that that's what i find
to be the craziest thing there's going to be all of this fury and the progressives themselves are
divided over the issue but nothing will happen from the biden administration not in this one
and stuff like this is going to become more common in the internet age as these people are able to coordinate more freely i assume well
like look so the difference between al-qaeda and isis i mean the main difference right al-qaeda
they brought your self and your team to wherever stan mountain region they were to train you up
kick you out and send you back out to do your thing. ISIS just did it online.
That was their deal.
That was their whole recruitment platform.
You don't need to come to Afghanistan or Pakistan.
Click here and donate.
Click here and learn how to fire an AK-47.
And then eventually maybe you'll come downrange and go to one of our camps.
So that's already happening.
And our problem has been it's a free speech thing.
What if these guys are in these chat groups or in these you know pro-isis organization chapters and they're saying
well i just support what they say i don't support what they do it's it's it's hard to prosecute that
it's hard to make that call and it's hard i think for a lot of like the free speech americans who do
believe in that like especially because a lot of them were younger right a lot of those isis those
kids who got involved with isis was like in minneapolis yeah or whatever like those were they
were like barely out of their teens one of the arguments i hear all the time is that uh especially
with the like first generation americans whose parents are you know of one culture and you're
kind of torn between the two they look for identity online and become radicalized and so
that's a very difficult and sad story to peddle on the other hand you know ultimately if the conclusion
is radicalization you have to treat that really seriously yeah it's not fun i waited through a
lot of those cases it's but you know people always forget you're like we focus on designated foreign
terrorist organizations right because that's the federal law material hook for material support
and it's not like we're just going after the KKK right like obviously I hate those guys
but most of what they say is protected free speech their right to even organize and convene
together is protected on their constitution that's the way it should be right but there's
a separation between what the KKK does and what ISIS and Al Qaeda and Hamas and all these other
organizations Hezbollah all these organizations do know, you're talking about people who have done so much destruction to American
and American allies that the U.S. government was like, you're you're on the list for life.
That's it.
There's like almost no getting off of it.
Yeah.
I wonder what you think of the organizations that are saying, you know, they won't hire
these students from Harvard.
I think Lear Hogan just did that because some people say you shouldn't cancel them you shouldn't talk like
there is an argument that that's not fair on the other hand like if you're hiring someone and they
advocate for you know terrorist organizations that we have recognized since like what 1997
that's pretty serious well first of all these all these institutions are private they can do
whatever the hell they want they can hire whoever they want they can come out and say we don't want
harvard guys who had done x y or, or Z. They could have done that.
So is it different when Larry Hogan
says he won't hire from Harvard?
Well, if he's saying that,
well, he's not governor anymore,
so I don't know where he's hiring these people.
But if he's hiring them for government jobs somewhere,
then that's going to be an issue.
But even if like, say, JP Morgan, right?
The world's largest bank is like,
yeah, we're not taking anybody from Harvard
because of this nonsense.
Okay.
What are they going to do? It's totally within their right to say that yeah we're going to hire murderers do you think it will change how academia uh no those guys are too i mean that's what i
always think that they're sort of lost institutions so yeah but a lot of these students started
writing letters being like no no no we're so sorry we didn't know and then you got people
coming up being like these students really didn't know it was in the letter. We should be nice to them.
A lot of these students are marching. They've not changed their mind.
These students go to Harvard. They're not stupid. They can read.
Well, they are.
That would be, right. That would be their knee jerk, you know, argument. I went to an Ivy League
school. I'm a brilliant person.
Isn't that a worse indictment that like you go to Harvard, but you didn't read the thing you
were signing? Like that's that, that that might be it's like i'm not hiring
i'm not not hiring you because you said you support tamas i'm not not i'm not hiring you
because it's not that you didn't read you didn't read the damn paper right like how or you're lying
that you did read it and now you're trying to be like oh no no i misunderstood either way all of
those are very bad yeah it, it's not great.
It's just going to get worse.
I think it's all connected.
Like those institutions like Harvard, Yale, whatever, any Ivy League school is connected to this entire pipeline movement that we've been talking about. When these people flip, when these people write books, when they go on TV, when the person who's the person that just went got kicked out of somewhere and is now like the uh professor at uh at princeton or or yale it's just happened this week uh i'll think of it anyway you
get rewarded yeah they're part of the reward system we're going to make you president of this
institute we're going to give you a huge contract what's funny about this there's a voice actress
named tara strong and uh she's the voice of uh like timmy turner and batgirl harley quinn so a lot of people who
are familiar with like dc comics and cartoons have heard her voice she was on drawn together
on comedy central she got fired from a show because she was tweeting in support of israel
so the show abruptly tweeted out that she would no longer be voicing one of their characters
and then she starts losing it like i'm being i being, I'm finding out from the internet, I'm being fired for being Jewish, things like this. But what I find fascinating about many of
these people, Tara Strong has me blocked, right? Because she's one of these woke leftists. And
despite the fact that we always calmly and rationally tried to explain to them that these,
the BLM and the far left want the eradication of Israel. They plug their ears and say, you're far right,
you know,
blah,
blah,
blah.
And then the reckoning comes for them.
As,
as,
as we've been warning about for so long,
these people who think that they can keep their head down and just side with the left
will be left alone.
That's not true.
She gets fired because of this.
Unless you have no opinions whatsoever.
Like literally you would have to have no opinions whatsoever because eventually.
No,
but then they ask you,
you're staying quiet on this issue. you're staying quiet on this issue why
are you commenting that's what happened to vivek ramaswamy exactly so they kept demanding he keeps
speaking up and he was like i did they're like more and he's like i've had it this has been like
the number because we've been talking a lot because everyone of the all these celebrities
have something to say about what's going on right now i'm like you're not involved in this like you
don't need to have an opinion on this stuff it doesn't. It's all of their publicists that have something to say,
who are saying you really, really need to tweet about this.
It's shocking.
Let me pull up this story from Rollingstone.com.
Oh, boy.
Hollywood stars, musicians call for release of Hamas hostages
in letter to President Biden.
You know what the letter's basically saying?
It's saying Joe Biden declare war on Iran.
Okay, but let's read.
They say scores of Hollywood actors, musicians, comedians, and other entertainment figures
signed an open letter to President Biden on Monday calling for the release of all hostages
Hamas has taken.
Among the hundreds of signatories were Amy Schumer, Jerry Seinfeld, Justin Timberlake,
Madonna, Katy Perry, Bradley Cooper.
The letter is part of a campaign called No Hostage Left Behind, which seeks the release
of more than 200 hostages taken during the Hamas attack on Israel.
Now, my question is, what is the ask? Hamas has hostages taken during the Hamas attack on Israel. Now, my question is, what is the ask?
Hamas has hostages. So you wrote a letter to Joe Biden. It's simple. They're saying go to war and
do whatever you have to do. The anti-war party is saying go to war and do whatever you have to do.
You know, having run counterterrorism for President Trump and the hostage portfolios
and bringing home 54 guys, we kind of know how to
do it. And this, this,
this,
Americans have been taken. Joe Biden has
brought home none of them. The Qatari government
has brought home four Americans. Wow.
Four. And this,
this warmongering machine, the
liberals are saying, yeah, let's do another
Afghanistan. Hollywood hasn't been anti-war in a long time.
They've been anti-American for a long time and pro and pro Islam during Iraq
and Afghanistan.
Lots of movies bear that out,
but they're not anti-war,
not,
not in any sense of the word.
And right now,
I think it's worse than that for a lot of this.
I don't even know if it's so much that they think that far ahead.
I think that they just know that these are issues that they need to have
an opinion on
because their public persona
requires them to be seen
and heard talking
about things that matter.
And it's a way to stay relevant.
Exactly.
They have to be commenting on it.
It's ridiculous.
I mean,
if you actually care about
anything like this,
would you make it so like,
I need to post this tweet
so people engage with it
so they see that I'm empathetic.
I mean,
it's really ultimately narcissistic
and about themselves.
I wonder though, if Hollywood, how much of Hollywood acknowledges that they're not anti-war anymore it's the same thing no they don't already
being like we're counter-cultural and you're like no you're not you you are the mainstream force and
you market this all the time and yet you claim that you're sort of this weird underdog when
you're obviously not their brains don't process that at all they still believe that they're the
counterculture they still believe that they're the party of anti-war.
They also believe that they're the party of the little guy
rather than the party of big banks and big money.
But for a lot of it,
I've watched every one of these celebrities
have the most artfully written response
that's supposed to appease both sides
only to watch them one by one get taken out instantly
because they don't realize
i think a lot of it is not being fully in touch with your audience it's like they don't realize
the size of their platforms and just how to actually diverse the amount of people yeah
you're gonna get soccer moms who like your stuff but you're also gonna get young leftists you're
gonna get they don't realize that no matter what you say it's not enough it will never be enough because
the most vocal of either side will come at you no matter how neutral you remain the best thing you
could do is not say anything but they are too addicted to the attention and they need the and
they need the rub and they're self-important and they're so they think the world needs their
opinion which is even challenging i mean it's similar to a lot of uh politicians who weigh on
an issues that they're actually probably not that well versed in, but they're
saying, you know, if I don't get the right
buzz out, then no one will pay attention to me again.
It's desperate. I mean, you were talking about this before. They ultimately
all want the attention, and that's why
I think people fight so hard to stay in
office, right? I mean, the fact that
Dianne Feinstein stayed in office
until she was actually
dead is crazy. I mean,
that is not wanting to give up power
well it's power and relevancy that's all that is worth like a hundred some million dollars it was
like a billion it's like she married like a crazy like uh and like uh they were like private jet and
i mean she married a crazy wealthy guy the other thing is like so in the weeks leading up to her
death she had to sign over uh power of attorney to her daughter because there's all kinds of legal disputes over the estate and they said you know she's really sick
this past year she shingles and some complications from that and so she needs the the money for her
medical bills i mean it it's it's such a strange thing where we're having someone who can't fight
their own legal battles but can still be brought to and from uh nancy pelosi's daughter was pushing
her wheelchair around
congress but she didn't need to retire no worries she's gonna stay our country's sick that's
disgusting this is the thing like i i when josie the redhead libertarian is here she was saying
she would want ron paul to be speaker of the house and i love ron paul i think he's great but
he is elderly let him just rest and hang out with his kids and write interesting books but
do not make him do this dumb bureaucratic job in washington until he dies like this is not the
culture i want and they're the ideological children of ron paul that are available yeah
dave smith exists we like dave smith make him speaker of the house and then we are again
expanding this bench of people who can potentially lead the country in the right direction. Let's just not make Ron Paul work until the end of time.
Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell needs to be rebooted every 15 minutes when he's giving a speech.
Again, the fact that Mitt Romney is the first person to be like, I'll be in my 80s.
I should step down.
It's like the first sensible thing I've ever heard from him in my life.
I'm going to throw a Game of Thrones reference out there.
You know, this is the circle.
This is the wheel that continuously spins.
And Donald Trump was the force that broke the wheel.
He broke it for a while and robbed all the people of the Rolling Stone headlines, robbed
these people of these important jobs and TV interviews and positions, exploited them for
the corrupt actors that they are.
I mean, the insiders trading a loan between Pelosi and Feinstein should be enough to send
them to prison for an eternity.
Got to get that Pelosi tracker.
No, get the, it's called unusual whales or something like that.
I was going to say earlier, like I follow all my, all my, all my stock trades.
If you want to invest in stocks, just look at unusual whales.
They are literally citing the upcoming legislation that these guys are betting their gambles on
and they track it all.
And you can go probably like five to 7% return on there.
You're right.
But they figured this out.
And now it'll probably spread where they'll be like,
oh, most Americans have figured it out.
So, you know, we're going to make this illegal.
But they still need to make money, right?
So they're still going to keep doing it.
That's why I make trades on what Congress does.
They're never going to write themselves into a law that says,
oh, well, we can't do this.
Of course not.
Of course not.
Matt Gaetz and AOC teamed up trying yeah to stop them from the younger generation is saying like hey wait
maybe this isn't great it's like telling them to introduce term limits but but i think i'm
optimistic needed i'm optimistic because if you look at matt gates the reason he's able to do
what he does is because his donors are individuals on the internet that he's got small donors yeah
he doesn't need to go to one man for a million dollars.
He can go to a million men for one dollar.
And women.
So look.
Whatever you think about Matt.
And I've known Matt a long time.
About whether he's right to start this process or wrong to start this process.
Oh he was right.
No no.
I'm just saying.
Whatever your position is.
I agree.
But I'm saying.
He was the only one that I know of.
That could go to the well of the floor in the house
of the representatives and announce to the world that I have not accepted one dollar from one
lobbyist or one defense industrial complex organization mind you Matt has one of the
biggest air force bases we have in his home district wow so for him to go out and say that
and then the chorus of boos comes in and his response to me was perfect every single one of
those people booing took a six and seven figure paycheck to their super PACs maxed out donations
parties in DC had them on their jets and their planes and they were caught red-handed with what
Donald Trump had caught them with being the biggest hypocrites who are in charge of running
our democracy and I think he's excoriated for it now because we're in this position where we'll probably just have tim pool become speaker but
we'll get to that uh we're in this position where you know they're like it's a rudderless government
i was like how how well was it steered when mccarthy was like what are you doing you were
on the you kicked the debt ceiling you were going to give us another cr these oversight
investigations that were supposed to promise the you know the end of time um we're running we were being run by wet noodles and you
weren't empowering them to enforce their subpoenas and now we have an exposure i think it's a big
civics education you have people paying attention of course the left's going to come and be like
the republicans are ruined governor but hey right now they can't pass a cr or an omnibus because
they can't speak they can't fund war either they can't fund a war they can't pass a cr or an omnibus because they can't speak they can't fund war
either they can't fund a war they can't write a check to the ukraine there i'm seeing i'm seeing
a lot of these conservatives on twitter be like what did we really gain from matt gates's stunt
and like why did he do this and i'm just sitting back like you know all the libertarians are
laughing because now there's stagnation and there's no more wasteful spending because they
can't they can't write a check it It's not what we gained. It's what
Zelensky lost.
Have you even heard of that guy?
No, he is so mad about it.
He's begging. He's not happy
being the side piece. No, no. I remember
after all the stuff, like after the October 7th
stuff happened in Israel, he was like
putting out statements like, yes, we too have
suffered. Don't forget that we in Ukraine
need some money here. mean it's that friend who like every time something bad happens to you
it's like yes something worse happened to me yeah you know what would be a good way to get
ukraine and i'm not saying there's people over there that don't need help and obviously russia's
attacking a lot of zones but when you go on the interwebs and you type in like kiev nightclub
it's like miami beach have you seen these freaking
parties like my friends have gone over there do a bunch of work over there and they're like
what war's on like what are you talking about you can't have that going on and ask the world
for 500 billion dollars it is funny because i i have like friends that skate in both russia
and ukraine and if oh you're a hockey guy? Well, I mean, hockey too, but
skating is like aggressive skating.
But like, if you were
going by their social media posts, like their story
posts, it's like the ones who are in
Ukraine are posting about fundraising for their
government, you know, fundraising for the military, but
then you see their posts and they're just out
skating at the skate park. And I'm like,
how is that happening right now?
No, this is something people don't get. I talk about a bit.
People don't understand that countries in war are not every,
every,
every place in this country.
It's not total war for them.
We know about,
but I,
I,
this is a story.
Everyone's heard me say ad nauseum in Egypt during the second revolution,
two blocks away from Tahir square,
where the revolution is taking place.
There's a guy at a McDonald's watching a soccer match.
Yeah.
Like there was a casino in the Hilton Hotel.
You were not allowed to enter
if you were an Egyptian citizen
because it's, what's the word?
Is haram the right word?
Like it's a violation.
Forbidden.
But tourists were gambling in there
playing roulette, craps, blackjack.
Yeah, of course.
Two blocks away from a revolution
where Apache helicopters are flying over
and there's APCs. People are shooting at each other in the streets and blocks away from a revolution where Apache helicopters are flying over and there's APCs.
People are shooting at each other in the streets and blocks away.
Nobody cares.
And these things become normalized, right?
I mean, think about the protests in Paris this year.
There were so many videos of like these people having dinner at like whatever cute little cafe.
And meanwhile, something's on fire and someone's throwing something through a window.
Like if you've been in conflict for a year at a certain point, you know,
so it's not going to keep you from the bars.
What was the video of like the girl
doing like a TikTok dance
while a military coup is going on behind her?
Oh, yeah.
That's on Myanmar.
That's actually to bring her to Burma, yeah.
There you go.
She was actually at yoga.
It was like a yoga thing or something like that.
It's even better.
You know her?
You call her Serge?
No, no, no.
It's just like, it was great.
That's very current year.
Yeah.
I mean, especially,
I know Tim is feeling
impassioned about this subject.
If that conflict
has been going on
for actual decades,
you just live with it.
Yeah, eventually.
All right.
Let's shatter some hearts.
Oh, you're going to do it.
Here we go.
From the New York Post.
UFC partners with Bud Light
as embattled beer
tries to fight off
Dylan Mulvaney backlash.
I don't understand this.
Bud Light must be paying so much money.
I'll break it down
very simply. Bud Light,
they're having a meeting being like,
okay, everybody's calling us names
and saying we're weak and effeminate and gay
and whatever. We need
to sponsor the manliest thing
imaginable. How about
MMA? They go to
UFC. I bet the first phone call they had
with UFC, UFC is like,
are you joking? And wait, wait, wait, wait, don't hang up.
Don't hang up. We'll give you $100 million.
And they're like, that's not a lot
of money to UFC.
That's a starting bid.
A starting bid.
I'd like to see what the price tag was.
UFC's owned by Endeavor, right?
So Endeavor is this massive conglomerate that just bought WWE as well.
So they own both of these companies.
It's all Ari Emanuel.
$100 million wouldn't even move the needle for them.
And I just want to say, I know we were critiquing people for not standing by their values at the top of the show.
I thought we were trying to get rid of the fratty culture around Bud Light.
Let me read this.
Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light
were UFC's original beer sponsors
more than 15 years ago.
I'm proud to announce
we are back in business together,
Dana White said in a statement.
There are many reasons
why I chose to go with Anheuser-Busch
and Bud Light.
Most importantly,
because I feel we are very aligned
when it comes to our core values
and what the UFC brand stands for.
I'm looking forward to all of the
incredible things we will do in the years ahead.
What he's really saying is, bro, the paycheck
was huge!
You would not believe all the zeros.
The little Danny versus Fallon Fox will go on this year.
The values they share are the amount of zeros
on the back of the check. Yes, so many zeros.
You cannot believe it. The values, he's referring to our
monetary values.
This is a good picture, too, where he's just like, look, he's referring to our monetary values. Monetary values, right.
I don't know.
This is a good picture too where he's just like,
look guys,
I just had to say.
They had to make a longer check.
There were so many zeros.
Also,
I mean,
Bud Light's going to do
whatever Dana White asks now,
right?
Is Dylan Mulvaney going to be
the card girl or whatever?
No,
there's no way that they
repartner with Dylan Mulvaney.
But I,
this is,
what did Bud Light try to sponsor? Harley Davidsonidson it didn't work no nothing worked do they really think i i
gotta be honest i'm i'm willing to bet there's a lot of mma guys who are gonna be like f no yeah
they're gonna be this is here's what i imagine you're gonna hear like press conferences with
some fighters and they're gonna rag on bud Bud Light. It's going to be worse
for Bud Light by trying to do this. For whatever
reason, MMA guys tend to be
particularly based, as it were, or
red-pilled.
Have you seen the entrance
that Donald Trump made at the last UFC
fight in Las Vegas? Dana White and Mark
Waller both said they've never heard anything like
that. Do you think
Donald Trump is going to walk back down hand- hand with dana white holding a freaking bud light
like you're right those fighters i know a lot of them you know i live in vegas my buddy has one of
the most successful mma training centers and owns like half the fighters in in the ufc these guys
are not going to tolerate this and they have have massive social media following. But it's not just about even personal conviction.
If you're someone with a big presence and they're telling you to stand in front of a Bud Light marquee or whatever, you're going to be like, no, I'm going to get roasted.
Are you nuts?
But then they're going to say, oh, you're under contract.
So you got to do it.
It's going to get weird.
Yeah, but MMA dudes are not the kind of guys to be like no what contract are the kind of guys gonna be like
i'll rip it up in front of your face yeah they don't care there's no second ufc like they can't
be like i'm switching leagues and i'm going over here right they it's all owned by the one thing
there's there's there's the ufc there's a pfl they're all owned by the one but look there you
look at all these industries we're talking earlier about like jenna alice pleading guilty and they're
all caving and bending the knee.
UFC, not even just MMA in general, has a very high density of individuals who will tell you to shove it.
Yeah.
But I think it's kind of obvious like these are guys who work really, really hard.
They're top level athletes, but they're also very, very capable people who are not worried about what you think you can take from them.
Yeah.
I'm wondering how many MMA fighters go, I don't really care about
that. You'll probably get some. What's like the big UFC
chat space? I would love to see what they're posting
already with some of these top fighters.
If you look at the top 10 fighters to see if any
one of those guys have put something out
on Dylan, I can't
believe this is a headline. What would their contracts look
like though? If it wasn't
Bud Light was a monster or whatever,
are they not allowed to disparage the brand? What does it look like? There's you know if it wasn't bud light it was a monster or whatever like yeah they're just they're not allowed to disparage the brand like what what does it look there's usually
non-like disparagement clauses or like you have to like wear the shorts like are these guys gonna
walk in with bud light on the floor of the of the octagon no well it's a big sponsorship also it's
gonna be such terrible optics like these guys grappling on the ground over bud light like i
don't like it that's i mean just picture these optics. Like, you have just taken
a monster defecation on Bud Light
for the last year.
There is also,
there's a large proponent
of that industry
that's going to be very normie
that isn't going to know
what's going on with the...
Oh, you think so?
I think that's what they're betting.
I think they're trying to see
if this is...
I think that there's plenty of normie...
I think that we fall into
a little bit of...
We do.
...of tunnel vision here.
I will say the Bud Light and the Target back-to-back boycotts were so big.
I mean, I know non-political people who are really mad about this.
And so they are gambling.
Yeah, both of them.
But the thing is, they're gambling that these issues from earlier in the year have been memory hold.
And I just don't think that's the case.
I think especially with the people in this particular industry, they remember, they oppose
it.
No.
And the UFC world writ large.
I mean, you got to, you're right.
I think in any other sports, it would be diluted, but the UFC world, I mean, you got to pull
up the video of Trump.
All of those people went.
There's a hundred million stuff.
It was a hundred.
No way.
That's it.
I'm pretty sure.
I mean, well, I'm just, I'm looking at tweets and they're all in on it. People are tweeting
$100 million. Maybe the most
hilariously dystopian thing I saw this year
was watching during the playoffs
for baseball. There's a good giant Lockheed
Martin sign behind
in center field
during the Astros.
It was just ridiculous.
$100 million. And how much stock does
Dana White personally own in Bud Light?
If it goes back up, what does he get out of it personally?
My understanding is that if he bought stock in Anheuser-Busch before this deal, that's insider trading.
But what if they gave it to him as part of the deal?
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, well, actually, no, not him individually.
So if it's a $100 million deal, if they cut him in on the side, I think that's also insider trading.
Yeah.
I'm just wondering,
cause like if that does seem low,
a hundred million dollars,
so I have to assume that he's personally profiting in some way.
Like I,
I buy that the people that are there live at the event would,
would be that way.
And they ditched Modelo.
Yeah,
they did.
We like Modelo.
Yeah,
we do.
Wow.
That's crazy.
We were like,
it's the biggest sponsorship in UFC history.
Target's the next one, guys.
I tell you, like he said, we share a lot of values,
and that value is monetary.
Yeah, true.
I mean, Bellator's probably excited about this.
They're definitely going to get some fighters
who are going to be like,
ah, screw this, I'm going to go to Bellator.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, honestly.
That's the thing.
If they have an alternative,
you're potentially losing good fighters to that.
It just depends on how...
Like, that's why I want to know about the contracts.
If they can't
get out of it they have
to they're all owned
by the same that
Bellator UFC and
PFL are all the same
but if they're not
going to have to wear
like the jerseys or
shorts if they change
you know what I mean
even if it's ultimately
well who's going to be
the first guy to wear
Bud Light
Bud Light shorts
they're going to be a
meme to high hell I
can tell you that
but I really like you
said it's the same
owner they're just going to go to the other bouts.
Why would they drive the stick around?
If they're the only one sponsoring Bud Light and let's say Bellator isn't,
then why wouldn't they just go fight Bellator?
Maybe the pot, the cat, I guess.
The money's different.
The pot's different.
Yeah, the cut is way less.
But would it change if more people were in the league?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
What if all the viewers are like,
I'm not going to watch UFC anymore because of this?
Forget this Trump fraud stuff.
Tell us about this, guys.
You'd have to get all the tier one fighters out of the UFC, dump them down in the PFL
and Bellator, where most of the amateur fights are, and you'd have to reorient.
I mean, Dana White owns it.
Well, they own it, but Dana runs it.
They're not going to change what a multi-billion dollar industry.
I mean, maybe if this Bud Light thing backfires.
100 million just seems small. I don't know why. It's know why it seems it seems small to me for that type of uh that type of
investment so maybe they really do share values and that's terrifying yeah what values are we
getting from bud light right now man tim cast could have sponsored him for that kind of money
yeah no way you don't want you don't want to have your face on all of the UFC's jerseys and stuff? Yeah, if I had $100 million.
Geez, know anybody?
No.
Bud Light.
If Bud Light came to me and offered me $100 million,
I would say no.
This is what I was talking about earlier
with these corrupt people in Congress that make all this money.
I'm like, I don't understand it.
I mean, at a certain point,
maybe it's just like a leftist worldview. I don't understand it. I mean, at a certain point, like maybe it's just like a leftist worldview.
I don't know.
At what point does Bud Light try to get on Public Square?
That's what I really think.
Bud Light is like, please, Michael.
In five years when Public Square is bigger than Amazon
and anyone who's not on that platform
is struggling to get sales
because they're considered fringe and weird,
Bud Light then apologizes
and pledges to support American values
and family values.
But you could never trust them.
You could never trust them to do any of this.
Tucker's just putting a million on Public Square.
Public Square put a million on Tucker.
Yeah, sorry.
Yeah, I know.
It's amazing.
It's a smart move.
That's a brilliant move.
Tucker's got a massive show
with a massive presence
and now Public Square gets the sole sponsorship
for a million bucks.
It's a good deal.
For them, it's a great deal. i mean public square is is the most important uh culture war
business and application right now you download an app that shows you the businesses that agree
with your values that's it yeah no it's incredible and it was it's so amazing that michael saw the
need and filled it i mean that's what i wish more people were doing right now. They've had a rough ride though. They came in high and it's pretty down right now
in the stock world.
Do you think they're recovering?
Yeah, they came in at like 30.
They're at like five now.
Public Square is?
Well, that's normal though.
That's a big drop from an IPO inside of a year.
Yeah, but Facebook went from like, what, 45 to like nine?
Yeah, you're right.
That's why everyone's always like,
be careful when buying at
an ipo because it always drops off they sell they sell it they dump a whole bunch and it falls down
yeah but you know it is what it is all my concern is is how are we winning the culture war and what
are we doing and we had we had carl benjamin on the show and he was like the rights not organized
not doing anything and then i'm like public square does this and his eyebrows go up and he's like oh
that's actually brilliant yeah there are right there are companies out there they're just it's hard to break
through there's a lot of companies that see this the world that way there's cell phone companies
there's coffee companies there's payment processing companies all these people do it it's just it's a
beast someone already super chatted saying they canceled their ufc fight pass subscription
it is also hard let's keep the tally going a lot of these companies like if a larger company
then offers you a ton of money jeremy's fighting championships
jfc i'm gonna text jeremy boring right now and be like bro can you launch an mma
his brand is crazier and crazier and they all have the chocolate bars with them
i'm imagining like his assistant runs into his office right now and theyzier and they all have the chocolate bars with them. I'm imagining
his assistant runs
into his office right now
and they're like,
they're like,
Mr. Boring, Mr. Boring
and they hold up the paper
and he's like,
wait,
does this work
or does this not work?
He's like,
who here's in the best shape?
We need to film an ad right now.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Does this take for UFC?
Does this work
or does this not work?
Oh, no.
I think they're going to eat it.
Well, look, no matter what happens, there is going to be controversy.
The fact that we're even talking about it and people are saying they're canceling because of it, there's already controversy.
It may not be that big of a deal because the average person who watches MMA or whatever might just be like, dude, I don't care about that stuff.
I want to watch the champion fight, the champ fight, the you know the the contender or whatever and so we'll see but i i kind of think a lot of ufc guys are
very vocal politically they don't care like they believe what they believe and they are not weak
people yeah like it is a high density of individuals that are in mma that are just like i will say what
i believe screw you i don't think it'll be the boycott that we saw with Bud Light itself
because Bud Light, you can pick alternatives, right?
If there's really no alternative,
you'll see there are people who are like,
look, I like this.
I work hard.
I want to watch the fights.
Like, I'm not going to buy the fight.
Are they going to have other beers there?
I don't know.
When this was going down, I went to,
I spent a lot of time in Nashville
and I'm a big country music fan.
And I went to a Luke Combs concert out in Titan stadium,
like,
you know,
55,000 people.
And they were still under contract with Bud Light,
whoever was putting on that,
that show.
When I left the arena,
I couldn't find,
when I walked in,
I couldn't find one person holding a can of Bud Light.
They were drinking everything else that they could get their hands on.
When I left the arena,
there were truckloads of Bud Light stations They were drinking everything else that they could get their hands on. When I left the arena, there were truckloads of Bud Light stations
around the arena that
had not sold more than
3% of their beers. I mean, they were just
stacked to the ceiling.
So if they did that in country music
in Nashville, it's not a
far stretch that they don't buy their stuff here.
Now, I guess it doesn't matter since they only got the money.
What happens if a fighter comes out
and right when he comes
out he goes don't buy bud light somebody's gonna say that i know somebody some dude is getting up
and saying that and and bud light's gonna be like wow this made things worth actually they made it
worse there's a massive fight in madison square garden in two weeks ufc's going there and um
supposedly there's gonna be some appearances from some celebrities like dylan mulvaney so
interesting so we'll see how this we're gonna know how this shakes out i'm telling you in like And supposedly there's going to be some appearances from some celebrities. Like Dylan Mulvaney? Oh, interesting.
So we'll see how this – we're going to know how this shakes out, I'm telling you, in like two weeks.
It's just they – Bud Light has had a marketing catastrophe since this started and they've never figured out what to do about it because they could have just apologized.
Yeah, we got it wrong.
See you later.
Sorry, guys.
This was a young marketing millennial
we we we apologize we're not gonna do it again instead they've been double they've been triple
quadruple down oh they've been sponsoring pride events but then all of what was this the gay bars
in chicago were like we're not buying that beer you're not supporting dylan mulvaney enough
they got double out that's right and all of the leftists who weren't buying it anyways are just going to not buy it anyways
because they weren't buying it in the first place.
It was a dumb move.
And like I said, their marketing executive said that thing,
I came in to fix the fratty reputation.
I'm sorry, but I learned about UFC with guys who were in fraternities
that they were the ones who were playing it every Saturday.
Do you think that this is going to be forgotten?
This has become
every marketing department
in a lot of American companies now
is they're chasing this
phantom audience
that they believe
that they can expand
their portfolio on, right?
They think that there's this
magical group.
It's happened in comics.
It's happened in films.
And they always think
there's this magical group of people.
First of all, they don't have money.
The people that they're actually
looking to buy stuff for, they don't have money anyways The people that they're actually looking to buy stuff for,
they don't have money anyways.
And they go looking for it,
and then they end up destroying their own market share
by insulting the people that they actually make it for in the first place.
But then these guys come in on the other side.
I don't know if you saw.
I can't remember the name of the company.
It's like Conservative Beer of America or whatever.
Ultra Right.
Exploded in sales.
Ultra Right.
Like now. It's like $2 million or something.
That's why I said Jeremy's Fighting Championship
or whatever.
Jeremy Boring's got a chocolate bar company.
We've got to order more of those, by the way.
Everybody really loved them.
People didn't like the one with nuts.
They liked the ones with no nuts.
I want to make a dark chocolate bar.
That's what I'm waiting for.
I'm sure that name won't be offensive at all.
I'd love to see what it comes out with.
It'll be fantastic.
Let's just find out.
It is always funny, though.
Every time a new product has to come out, it's like Patriot Water.
And some new product.
Stars and Stripes cereal.
Hey, that's not a bad idea.
Okay, but if anyone makes that, I deserve a cut.
I think it was Ryan Long who did that video where it's like left-wing podcast sponsors versus right-wing.
Patriot dirt.
The left-wing one was like, welcome to the anti-establishment, anti-government podcast sponsored by Monsanto.
And then on the right, it was like Patriot water.
It's water, but for Patriots.
And the other ones, it was all MREs and, yeah. And, uh, in instant food,
left-wing podcasts all have massive sponsors from McDonald's.
Yeah.
Big corporations.
Ryan long doesn't miss.
Oh yeah.
No,
he had that really good one about Israel,
Palestine.
That was,
that was brilliant.
Actor doesn't know who to support.
And they were another one of his,
that's been going around again recently is the winner.
He's like,
I sell my,
I sell the footage to Fox and I sell the footage to CNN.
If you play it backwards, it looks fine. No, no. He's like, I once sent footage to Fox and I sell the footage to CNN. If you play it backwards, it looks fine.
No, no.
He's like, I once sent a video to Fox News of protesters picking up litter.
And I said, don't worry.
If you play it backwards, they're littering.
Maybe this is who the DeSantis campaign needs, right?
They need Ryan Long to come in and be like, this is how you respond to Ashley St. Clair's boot thing.
They need a Canadian to come in and fix it.
They need some foreign nationals consulting.
So this is the point I made about Trump is that here's that one clip
where he's like the lights, they're too bright.
They're making me look orange
and everyone busts out laughing.
You can't make fun of Trump because Trump's in on
the joke. DeSantis' campaign doesn't
get that or they're intentionally sabotaging him.
So they're just like, don't make fun of me. You're
stupid. You're dumb. It's like, wow.
None of it's landing. None of it's sticking. It's just his campaign's over. I mean, I think so. Yeah, like don't make fun of me you're stupid you're dumb and it's like wow none of it's landing none of it's sticking
it's just his campaign's over
I mean I think so yeah I don't know
but I will watch that debate between him and
Newsom maybe Bud Light can sponsor
that debate yeah
I'm more interested in whether
or not a UFC fighter comes
out and says yo what
I don't want to fight on a fight you know what let me text a few
right now yeah
we'd like some exclusive comments from them on air that'd be great uh yeah i mean my my question
again goes back to contracts like what are they allowed to say and i would be interested if if in
violation of their contract potentially giving up a lot of money they say something anyways because
i think that is what we need people who are saying i don't like this and i didn't forget
why we were boycotting Bud Light in the first place.
I still remember why we were not buying things at Target.
I mean, that's the fact of the boycott.
It's difficult for them to last forever,
especially if there's no alternative.
On the other hand, let's not forget why we went into them in the first place.
It was earlier this year.
We can't have seeded the ground so quickly.
Is that a big part of it though?
Is in Dana White's mind,
is the idea that they waited like a sufficient amount of time has passed and in trying it now is not the same as trying it in August or trying it in September.
I mean, I don't think you would have touched it in July.
Yeah.
But on the other hand, it makes me wonder about the money and it makes me wonder about his potential other dealings.
I think it does not go well.
Yeah.
There's no way
right this is gonna this is not i can't wait now to get back home and be like wtf what are you and
all of these fighters that you know can be like bud light really gross yeah they already hated it
yeah so now what are they gonna be forced to paint it on their face like when they walk out
yeah bud light flags bud light cups they're gonna we'll know, couple weeks, huge fight
Madison Square Garden
we'll see what Strickland and Covington
and all those people have to say about it too
they've been pretty outright about their opinions
as Tim said, they ain't shutting up
no, definitely not
unless they are made to shut up
that's what I come back to, there are always
obligations
these guys are just they don't care about the't they don't care about the contract here let's
see what this ufc fighter said oh my gosh breaking news live on kip katz does he know you're on air
right now are we allowed to say who it is uh oh no i'm not gonna say who it is but uh what the heck
i just said we were having breaking news uh what did they say the fighters don't know about it and
they're pissed so they found out with everyone else. They are the Sophie Turner to Joe Jonas.
It's kind of like, yeah, apparently all big news breaks nowadays.
You don't tell your own people.
You just tell the mainstream media.
This came out a couple hours ago.
This news broke.
And wow, it's a Tuesday evening is like the best possible day for Bud Light.
It's maximum PR day Tuesday, Friday and Saturday.
Saturday is like just unheard of to PR day, Tuesday. Friday and Saturday. Saturday is like just
unheard of to really say something on Saturday.
Friday at 5. Friday at 5
is where you bury it. But
Bud Light was like, we want you to announce Tuesday
evening. This is a great idea. In the middle
of a war, in the middle of, you know. He's like,
could we soften it to Thursday at 10?
They were confident. It was a Tuesday.
I just can't imagine that.
Can you imagine? This is a great idea. Dana White says yes, and everyone will not think about it. Well,uesday i just can't imagine though can you imagine like this is a
great idea dana white says yes and everyone will not will not think about it well they're they're
just going to see the power of usc probably fade just a touch here on this one because
they might have the golden touch but not not the bud light golden touch it ain't coming back i'm
sorry it's a tall order i mean and the thing about the bud light boycotts is there are tons of people
who work you know in their breweries or whatever else who are normal people who were swept up
in a national controversy that I'm sure they didn't actually
want to be a part of, right? I mean,
this is corporate leadership betraying the
actual workers. They're like,
maybe Bud Light can sponsor Hamas.
So,
you know, I'll read the superchats
more in detail, but I'll just
paraphrase one saying that, you know,
a lot of these fighters don't make a lot of money.
Dana White bringing in this money could help get these guys paid more.
And I'm just like, look, if you're a pro.
Doesn't make it to them.
If you've got sponsors, let's say you've got five sponsors.
You've got companies A, B, C, D, and E.
And then you decide to add on Bud Light.
And now you have a big Bud Light patch on your jacket or your pants or whatever.
Those other companies are going to be like, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, out.
We're done.
We're cutting you off.
I mean, look, if we sponsored something and then someone decided to put Bud Light next to it,
I'd be like, no way, dude.
We don't want to be associated with that.
We're not going to sponsor if you're working with them because it's just like we don't agree with their values.
It's bad across the board that's a problem i'm wondering i don't know how sponsorships
works for a work for a lot of these fighters but sponsorships are a big portion of how athletes
make money i assume it's the same for ufc if if if they're now like look man we don't we don't want
to be overlapping with bud light our audience like let's say there's a jerky company. They're going to be like,
if people find out that we're sponsoring this stuff,
like we're going to lose money.
We just, we're better off sponsoring something else.
No, it's like 100 to 200,000 a patch, right?
On a short or something like that.
And you have like two, maybe three, right?
So yeah, are you going to pull those off to put Bud Light on?
And what is Bud Light going to offer you?
Or is the UFC going to mandate
that if you want to fight in the UFC, you have to have
the Bud Light logo on your stuff?
And that would force it.
And then I don't think it's likely, but there is a slim probability that there's a massive
backlash to UFC over doing this Bud Light thing.
Like you're mentioning fighters are pissed.
I don't know to what degree people actually care, but let's just operate on the assumption there's a big backlash i mean the people screaming cheering
for trump are going to be like boo it's going to be gnarly and then if that does happen you will
get other sponsors going to ufc and being like do not put our logo next to bud light we like we we
do not want to be a part of whatever it is you're a part of you do that that's fine is dana white risking
losing other sponsors by doing this deal with bud light i i think so i mean i just don't see
how the loyalty brand that ufc has built up and whether or not you think ufc is political
you have to just go to one of these events and look at the people and talk to them they are
dialed in they are educated they are more into the know at the people and talk to them, they are dialed in. They are educated.
They are more into the know about the news and mainstream media than people
give them credit for.
Cause they're like,
Oh,
you guys just like fights.
They're actually more dialed in than anything else.
You can't get that kind of reaction to anyone walking in unless they know
what the F is going on.
And,
and they side with them.
Like,
it's not like they hate them in unison.
They went the other way.
So if you fill a stadium full of people with like that for your sport, I can't imagine
the other people watching it aren't feeling mostly the same way in some form.
And especially the social media responses I saw for people who weren't there were exactly
the same way.
Someone in the regular chat said, everyone has a price, million dollar man.
Even your mothers have a price. And that's just not true. It is not true said everyone has a price million dollar man even your mothers have
a price and that's just not true it is not true that everyone has a price most do most do um and
that price could actually be lower than people realize or higher than people realize and uh
i wonder if that's just people have not tried to sign deals before, like there are people with no price, none.
And as we've tried to hire and acquire,
you learn 90 plus percent of people in this space.
There is no price you could buy them for 90 plus.
And I'm not talking about compromising values.
I'm talking about,
we've gone to people who have like moderate social media followings.
And we're like,
would you want to like join the Tim cast team?
And like,
we would help distribute and market.
And they're like, no, why I don't need it. What am I going to do with it? And I'm like, well, want to like join the Timcast team? And like, we would help distribute and market.
And they're like, no, why?
I don't need it.
What am I going to do with it?
And I'm like, well, like we could,
we can help you make more money.
We'll pay you more upfront.
We'll then seek ways to monetize.
We'll then try and like, we'll promote it.
And they're like, no, thanks though.
It's just like- It's not hostile.
They just don't need it.
Right.
It's for a lot of these people
with social media and the internet,
when they're making
six figures on their own already, there is nothing you can offer them because they're
like freedom.
It's like, I could take a day off whenever I want.
I answered to no one.
I've got good money.
For what reason would I sign this deal?
And I'm like, you're right.
Fair point.
And for most people, deals offer security.
But if they feel confident, if they're established enough, like they don't, they don't need that
either.
It's like being a small business.
The challenge is most people worth hiring
are people who have proven
with a portfolio of their work
and have already found ways
of monetizing it
in the modern era.
It's not just that too,
but especially in the world
of political convictions,
you'll find a lot of people
are just unwilling to do deals.
Hey, Bud Light had a price.
I mean, UFC had a price.
I'm really interested in all the MMA fighters coming out being like
no and which one of them is going to be like
100 million are you kidding me we could have
gone for more
oh for real they could have gone for more I bet
I bet if they went to Bud Light and says this is your
only chance you gotta make
it a billion dollars some ridiculous
number a billion over
I don't know what they were thinking over the course of over a period of time the way they would do it is like a billion dollars. Some ridiculous number. You should have. A billion over. You should have. I don't know what they were thinking.
Over the course, over a period of time, the way they would do it is like a billion dollars
over 10 years or whatever.
I mean, maybe it's $100 million for the 10 years.
Is there a way to get there?
Bud Light is a dead brand.
And the $100 million you're seeing isn't confirmed by the brands.
It's just something you're seeing reported online, right?
A bunch of news outlets have reported $100 million.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
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They are so ready to go.
Yeah, finger on the trigger, kind of.
All right.
Barely a Millennial says, do you think these bizarre pro-Hamas protests and rallies across
the country and the world are the result of years of indoctrination?
Yes.
Or are they funded by someone like Soros or some other entity?
Yes.
Maybe both.
How do we expose it?
So it's a combination.
You will find when you go to these protests protests if you accuse these people of getting paid by soros they're confused because
none of them are but of the 300 or 400 people you might see in a protest there will be 10
who are paid by a non-profit which they don't realize receives a large amount of funding from
the sort from the uh opens what is open society foundation and then uh what they'll do is organize the protest create a create an effort a viral
effort of tell your friends come this is when we're doing it then when all these people show
up they're like what do you mean we're not paid this is not a paid event it was like this only
exists because open society foundation funded non-profits and foundations which the money
trickles down to these ng these non-profits and ngos which then hire people to have them organize rallies that's how it works
yep true all right i know baka says hi all long time listener first time super chatter
would cash consider becoming trump's ag
listen i mean i'm i would i would say please uh the mission for me right now is getting him
elected that's my job so i will work tirelessly until november of next year to make that mission
a reality and i you know look i can share this i have a lot of conversations with him but the
one i had in private that i thought was going to be like a three-hour conversation maybe like a
year and change ago because when we didn't know what he was going to do and i was like what the
hell am i going to do you don't know what you was going to do, and I was like, what the hell am I going to do? You don't know what you're going
to do. So I was driving up to Bedminster. And I was like, Okay, boss, I got like, you know,
I got the afternoon, like, let's let's sit down and jam. What are you going to, you know, and he
goes, cash, I'm all in. I go, All right, I'm all in. See you later. shortest meeting I ever had
never looked back. And yeah, we've talked about how personnel should be set in the next Trump
administration. It's a huge component of my book, government gangsters, like you can't just replace back and yeah we've talked about how personnel should be set in the next Trump administration
it's a huge component of my my book government gangsters like you can't just replace the
secretaries you got to go down 15 runs in every single department at the White House every agency
I mean we have the list and I have the list of an index in the book that's why it's called
government gangsters there's an index from a to b in the back of the book of every government
gangster that I ever encountered.
Can I say a name?
Yeah, it's published.
And so, like, you know, if he asked me to come back at a high level position, of course I'd go back.
But would you want AG or would you want like chief of staff?
I mean, where would you want to be? Because they're very different positions.
Yeah, look, you have to like the AG position works if you have a great dag and a great fbi director
otherwise you're kind of screwed you know you know or do you want to go do ops or do you want
to go take on dod you know i've worked in both all three of those places and they're all awesome
you know it would be great to have any of those jobs but you need backing and so i hope another
government gangster doesn't slip through the cracks and like another rhino or uniparty clown shows up and says, well, yeah, you know, I was rooting for you, but I wasn't really public about it.
So I'm going to go hard to make sure more than anything, people don't get in.
Yeah.
Because we actually know the guys and gals that are ready to go.
And if you're not hearing their names in the mainstream media, then you kind of have your answer.
Which there's an index of the gangster you said? Yeah. it's in the back of the book what like what page like
what would like what am i looking for because there's a lot it's just a list of names in
alphabetical order a list of names yeah it's probably after that section uh those are the
those are the there's end notes maybe it's just before that i should probably know that off the
top of my head i call the freaking book government yeah because i'm at the i know it's like sources and citations
yeah so you got to go to uh page 215 ah okay appendix b members of the executive branch
deep state oh wow story time with cash i love it look i mean i figured if you're gonna call
them out there it is there you gotta freaking call them out that's the whole point and it's
nice to get people like, Oh,
I've heard that name.
Bill Barr.
There's,
there's one for another John Bolton.
But this is the thing.
People are like,
Oh,
this Trump guy's writing this book.
And I probably name more Republicans than I do Democrats.
And the point is,
it's not a,
it's not a political mission set.
They all get together to destroy what i thought was a duly elected
presidency and in my opinion a national security mission and here we are sitting in the remnants
of that right two tiers of justice two more global wars no security at the border and china kicking
our butts across the world and the the you know trump was like okay everybody can write about
those problems and highlight these people how do we fix it that's the core concept of government
gangsters like every single agency department can be fixed but this is what you got to do it's
going to take a lift all right the dungeon delver says tim please shout out my dnd group dungeon
delvers group on twitch where a minotaur mamacita means a female one i appreciate all that you guys
do i didn't know that we like dungeon dragons it's a lot of fun dnd bud lights coming your way
federale actual says dude why are you letting luke
we are change claim ian like princess peach and his super chats are going to some weird scammy
website just because florida has a beach drop him some dough for his for his weak infrastructure and
brand it i have no idea what you are going about i like the what about the beach and doesn't have
free will it's just like in the video game
Tim has created of our lives.
Yeah, we're all battling over Ian.
One big simulation.
Ian just moves from place to place
wherever he's sent.
Where are we at?
Thinker for Life says,
Cash, there's a huge opportunity
for a conservative business incubation center
in Michigan.
It's a unique setup in a battleground town.
It will go to liberals if we don't i'm thinking for a life on truth social as well great splash
on truth social and let me know what your business idea is i'll come see you nice then retruth it do
you miss twitter at all are you happy on truth i've never been on twitter or insta or whatever
the other ones are called so you got social media media only because of Trump? You want to know how hilarious it is?
I hate social media.
I was never on it.
And then my former boss leaves president
and creates Truth Social.
I still didn't get on.
Then my former, former boss, Devin Nunes,
becomes the CEO of Truth Social.
And so these two guys call me and they're like,
oh yeah, this is going to be great.
I'm like, yeah, good luck.
I wish you all the success. Have fun with social media. And they were like, oh yeah, this is going to be great. I'm like, yeah, good luck. I wish you all the success.
Have fun with social media.
And they were like,
no,
you're on the board of directors.
So you have to,
so I laughed out loud.
I was like,
don't you want to hire somebody who's actually signed on to Twitter before?
I don't even know how to post.
They're like,
no,
you're a fresh perspective.
And now,
now,
you know,
like 1.1 million followers later,
here I am.
It's a hell of an elevator pitch.
No,
that's it.
It's a fun,
it's addicting. And you know, you can, you can make it an impact all right peter go hawks says in my opinion
these lawyers lives were threatened and or families were threatened by the biden three-letter agencies
why else flip that quick fjb perhaps perhaps that may be the case and i get it i do uh and and that
is an issue but i suppose as i mentioned before it is unfair to compare any of
these individuals to the founding fathers who sacrificed their families their children their
loved ones their sacred treasure to declare independence to stand up against tyranny it's
kind of a crazy story the founding fathers thought we would lose the war for independence
and signed a document knowing they had just condemned themselves.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
But they thought it was worth it.
They had values that told them you have to do this step and take this risk anyways.
I think so.
I'm imagining these guys are looking at each other like, well, we are going to lose everything we own.
We're going to die.
We can't win this, but it has to be done.
It's pretty ballsy.
It's amazing.
It's the seeds that are planted that lead to a nation as great as it has to be done it's pretty ballsy it's amazing it's what it's the seeds that that are planted
that lead to a nation as great as the one we are as it has become no question i i assume these
people are facing a tremendous amount of pressure it's a huge financial burden to fight any government
in this type of ongoing lawsuit when they can just continue to ask the taxpayers to fund it
on the other hand you have to say their families knew what they were advocating. You know, sometimes they have you have to be the first one into the foray. And it's sad,
but you only have the opportunity to stand up for what you believe so many times in life. And
this is the path they chose. Again, I can't imagine the pressure, but it doesn't change
the fact that they said something and now revoked it. Let's see. Neboop says Jenna's
guilty plea is deferred, not filed as a judgment rob govea broke
it all down today the judge accepted it deferred it and the case continues what does that mean
that just means she's on probation and basically if you screw up everything comes back that's yeah
yeah yeah not like well what do you know what sol means what i don't think i could say that here
no no no it's statute of limitations oh is that what it is yeah when i was uh uh 20 years ago i was in court the judge i was arrested for skateboarding the judge uh calls up
my name is like next on the docket and uh he said the judge looks at he's like they call my name i
stand up and he's like what is this and uh the prosecutor is like a skateboarding your honor and
he's like excuse me and they were like he was skateboarding on on state property downtown and he goes is this a joke and he was like no and
he goes he gets like sol get in my courtroom he's like you're not gonna do it again get out yeah and
i was like i don't what does sol mean like well the other one meant out of luck but the right but
the statute of limitations he probably just needed a legal excuse to be like oh yeah you should have
brought this it normally means you have,
for every crime committed,
there's supposed to be a number of years
you can bring that crime.
Right, if they know about it and don't act,
eventually it's gone.
And very few ones like murder and terrorism
don't have a statute of limitations.
But also people think it means
from the point of the crime,
but it means from the point of discovery, right?
Well, or when they should have known about it.
Yeah.
You know, if the feds like are sitting on the document, they're document they're like yeah well we just won't look at this for 10 years yeah it doesn't count you know interesting but yeah
that was basically it what i would what it was explained to me that the idea was uh they could
bring the charges back at for some at some point but they were saying to get out they don't want
to deal with it it was stupid yeah it was uh uh there's a place in downtown chicago sidewalk i was skating on and they don't it was three in
the morning two with my friends and they wanted to make an example because they have a no skateboarding
sign or whatever but it's not illegal to skate and so the judge was just like all right why are
you wasting the court's time yeah it's ridiculous there was some uh that stuff happened to us like when we were going downtown like post 9-11 any government building they were very quick to make an example
of you if you were skating on any type of government property at that time because they
were very very yeah try doing that post 9-11 and being brown yeah i mean people do it all the time
today there's tons of videos on youtube of people skating in these same places with no issue it's just you know it's what is all right where are we at wayne smith says went and saw police
state last night first off cash amazing job in it ps really puts in the perspective how bad it's
getting interesting that's not good yeah taking back toxic says read the 12th amendment trump
and de santis cannot run on the same ticket i've heard that before but i've heard it disputed as
well so i don't know i mean but that wasn't ultimately the reason that they did not team up
they're never going on the same it ain't happening it's i'm just it's it's not happening
bow 284-327 says did you see preston parra's tweet where he said he won the debate with you
he sounds like a grifter to me your thoughts uh i don't consider it a debate when one person says i hereby
declare thing the other person says what is your evidence for thing and the other person says i
hear by declare thing yeah i hear but i'm like i wasn't i i wasn't debating with him that he was
wrong i was asking him what his proof was and when he didn't have any i said this is just you deciding
you want this to be true i don't care what your politics are.
So this is the, he was arguing that he thought Netanyahu knew Israel would be attacked because
Egypt issued a warning.
Then there was a seven hour stand down order.
And I said, okay, what was the warning that Egypt issued?
We don't know.
Okay.
So it could have been anything.
It could have been Hezbollah's coming.
It could have been from Jordan.
It could have been from the south, from Syria, who knows.
So we don't know what that warning is so there's very little to speculate on then he
said there's a seven hour stand down order and i said what's what's your source for that right
where is it a guy who works for an ngo in israel who works with the government said this and i'm
like okay single dubious source that doesn't actually have privy information and then it
benefited netanyahu and i'm like yeah that's possible but all highly speculative and i don't see the point of bringing it up yeah so there's
not really a debate it's not look this is a much bigger conversation i wrote two op-eds on intel
we didn't miss it we weren't looking right that's how this all happens and the same with the
israelis when you go through woke policies as your national security priorities and you say
no we need to look at climate change in the setting sun more than we need to look at,
you know, terror.
That's literally what this administration has done.
And then for them,
and they're going to come and say this later,
they're going to be like,
well, there was this intel analyst
who knew that was going to be attacked.
Saying you have intelligence
that Hamas and Iran are going to attack Israel
is like saying America possesses intelligence
that the cartels are going to bring in drugs
to the southern part of the world.
Like if you don't empower the people with the jobs to take them on, it doesn't freaking matter what you do.
You know, my thing is, like, there was a report that Egypt warned Israel.
And I'm like, the only quote we had was something big.
And so imagine you get a warning at your house or your business that something big is coming.
What do you do?
What do you do with that information?
You hire security guards?
Okay.
And then some guy parachutes
onto the top of your building
and you're like,
I never would have thought of that.
Or he digs up from under the floor.
I mean, something big could come from any direction.
It's just impossible to say.
We don't know the nature of the warning.
I'm like, it's possible.
But I think it's silly to be like,
I want to debate.
It's like, you know what?
I talked about it earlier today.
What I'm calling
Israel-Palestine derangement syndrome calling israel palestine derangement
syndrome israel yeah yeah high pds uh because we we i mentioned this a little bit before the show
that no one cares about myanmar slash burma since 1948 hundreds of thousands have been killed in
this ongoing conflict and uh even recently there's tons of news and it's like there's nobody nobody
cares 12 000 people most people don't even know it's like, there's nobody cares. 12,000 people have died.
Most people don't even know it's a country.
I know.
No, they don't.
Yeah, I made the joke.
I tweeted, I'm going to get mad about Myanmar.
And someone said, you mean Burma.
And I'm like, dang.
You watch Seinfeld.
Yeah, we'll make this the news.
So it's like, I understand there's a religious component.
But a lot of these people on the left are advocating for Palestine for literally no reason.
None whatsoever. Yeah yeah it's current the
people who are advocating for israel typically have families in israel and however many of these
people have said very horrifying things a former guest on this show basically called for nuking
palestinians like just killing everybody that's not a good idea no it's insane so it is very very
heated i can understand why someone like ben japiro is very upset he has family there he was just
there i respect that i don't understand why your random college leftist is chanting in
support of hamas and i'm like you don't know anything about the region there's no reason
i don't i don't get it no they're doing it because it's a cool thing to do it's popular
it's in rolling stone you have to you know go out there like wearing a mouse shirt yeah
oh yeah that's a great idea che guevara let him Give me that. Jason Hutchinson says, this is good.
The Republican Party needs to end.
It has been either ineffective at preventing what's happening today or complacent with it.
I mean, yeah.
Or complicit.
Yes.
And people are like, should we be happy about having a speaker?
And I'm like, this is a good thing.
I mean, it's definitely keeping us from sending money abroad right now.
Yeah.
What's the argument?
If we had a speaker, we'd be funding more wars can i just so having gone through a government shutdown and being denied
getting paid and being in one of the few jobs that actually never got their money back i'm like the
one of the like point zero zero zero zero zero one percent of people ever impacted by government
shutdown who watching this show or anyone that you know is actually impacted by a federal government
shutdown other than the mainstream media to lay political blame vi benefits is the is the main concern but listen
i got it the troops and all that stuff i got it there's money in the coffers to fund that stuff
it doesn't run out because the government turns off that is a bogus dc government fiction um that
they scare us into with oh my god the world's gonna end remember in the obama
administration the government shut down for months month months and i was a federal public defender
and they named my small crew of people non-essential so i never got paid back but every other government
employee got retroactive pay for the entire time once the government turned on. So I don't want to hear it.
So when is this, the current CR supposed to expire?
No.
Oh, shoot.
I should know that.
Three or four weeks.
Three or four weeks.
If they don't get a speaker in three or four weeks,
there's just government shutdown.
Yeah.
All right.
Tim's like, do it.
Every libertarian is like going like, yeah.
I'm not so much, you know,
I'm not so adamant about it i think that
gets makes interesting points we don't want people to go without paying i get that a lot of people
live paycheck to paycheck i got it and i don't want them to do it but what's the alternative we
just keep providing funding to these lobbyists and and massive corporations oh they are i don't
they are having a dance party in dc The defense industrial complex and the lobbyists are turning it on.
This is a $500 billion machine you just gave like fentanyl to with, you know, like ecstasy in it or something.
I don't even know what those two do.
But these guys are going out there buying Democrats and Republicans.
$100 billion check to you.
You get $10 million.
You get $1 million.
Get us this next DOD contract. The world is ending ending we have to make new munitions and weapons and missiles and
they're like this is our covid yeah essentially big pharma yeah right modern and pfizer yeah now
there's a big five in the dod industrial complex space and they're all let's go they're like let's
go and you know the guys that are running these companies the government gangsters that used to
be the secretary of defense, the Chairman of this,
Secretary of the Army.
They're all getting paid.
We got a super chat the other day.
A couple people mentioned this, that there's like some ammunition company, a company that
makes ammo that switched entirely to government contracts instead of civilian.
That's a no brainer.
I'm not super right, but I'm not super familiar.
Maybe someone in the chat knows, but this is indicative of war.
Well, no, what it is indicative of is getting paid.
So when you get on a government,
what we call GOFO,
a government funded prime contract, a PRIME,
you are set for life,
especially if it's in the defense industrial complex space.
Those are very hard to get
and they don't pay you for like a year.
They pay you for like 15 budget cycles right and they
usually pay an inordinate amount so government contracts supposed to go to like the lowest
bidder who can do it best but what we end up doing is delay delay delay then paying the highest guy
because we want to screw over the other guys because we were too slow in getting it right
in the first place all right solely soul rack says family dog just passed away today he was very
loving very fluffy and very
short rest in peace shorty i will love and miss you it was an amazing 16 years 16 years a long
time that's good sorry to hear it but uh rest in peace shorty shorty shorty
kane ables as you think the government cannot write checks due to not having a speaker
they will do it behind closed doors in private.
But Biden can stroke checks.
True.
Yeah.
Edward M. says, WTF, the UFC signed a deal with Anheuser-Busch.
Don't get started.
Cringe.
So many weird things have happened this year, you know?
It's definitely not what I would have seen coming.
Still got two and a half months left.
Philly James says, as a regular UFC watch watcher i couldn't tell you the sponsor from
this last saturday fight don't care about still watching the fights yeah see matt allen says i
canceled my ufc fight pass subscription today i bet you'll get some from each of those camps right
so yeah so the people who are i mean that even that person is who is clearly politically aware because they're watching the show and still values the entertainment over that.
There's no alternative, right?
Like you could say, I'm going to buy another beer, but you're not going to watch a different fight.
Right.
Especially now that they own WWE.
What are you going to go?
Watch Power Slap?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, go do that.
That stuff is wild.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Seth Weathers says, those Mfers beat us by 100 million million
to be the official ufc beer sponsor brutal imagine if ufc decided just to go with ultra right
and they were just like i mean because you could theoretically do it 100 million dollars they say
right you could theoretically uh seth could do the same deal, and it's based off contingency.
It's like, we'll do a $100 million deal, which basically means once we sell up to that number, it all goes to you, and then afterwards, it goes back to us.
Yeah.
Totally worth it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can find some venture capitalist rich guy who's totally on board the anti-Bush, light, whatever Budweiser train and be like, I'll give you the check.
We'll make our own fighting league for MMA.
You just want
jeremy to get in this jeremy tim caslager we need the jeremy signal it's like a light in the sky and
it signifies jeremy that a company's gone woke and there's an opportunity for a business venture
i think he's only done two right i mean technically no he's doing the snow white
movie too right right like this is you know
but it's funny because like the mo is basically there is a clear path of success that's been
proven and they've abandoned it so all jeremy is doing is being like i'm getting back on the path
like snow white is a huge success they've made a crappy version i'll make it and then i'll get
rich like right they don't care about selling it it's it's a proven money making venture and they've abandoned it i'll take it you're gonna have to open the daily wire store
right next to target yeah it's like congress for hollywood yeah i mean yeah like where's where's
jeremy's grocery yeah could you imagine like 100 years from now it's like literally everything is
just like public square is one company it's jeremy's everything no it's terrifying i don't
like that yeah that's too much for me isn't the aldi's guy pretty base though because he's like a hyper
capitalist and he's yeah yeah the aldi's and aldi's is one of the top organic grocers used
to be one of the top organic grocers in the u.s i remember he did the thing with rogan where he's
like oh these people they don't understand how money works okay boomer dad thank you i'm just kidding what do we got beef nasty says ufc
is going to take bud light money and run ufc fighters will rag on bud light and they won't
care if a fighter brings ppvs money in daddy dana don't care if they smack talk bud light
that's not saying how many people are going to be like so what free money they're going to get
made fun of bud light's gonna it's going to hurt Bud Light more because now everyone's going to
make fun of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They can't.
And they obviously cannot abandon their hyper-masculine brand.
That's what they have learned through all of this.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, Bud Light doesn't have it.
Which, that's a win for men.
Good job, guys.
I'm betting it tanks.
Yeah.
More likely. i'm betting it tanks yeah more likely kcb says trump's lawyers trading their principles because they've never had to weigh them against the machine if they went to prison and pro bono
legal services for everyone in the prison they'd be out in six months their strength and weakness
you know it's like it's it's it's that that line for mighty mighty bostones i'm not a coward i've
just never been tested i'd like to think that if i was i would pass these people were tested and
they all failed every one of them i can't believe there was a mighty mighty boston's reference
well i mean come on like you know dickie is in the band with he's in he's with pete parata and
the defiant now so like mighty body boston's is back in the playlist baby let's go yeah listen
to dead language by The Defiant.
That song's great.
It's about just like society's become so brutal
and no one's paying attention anymore.
They're all on their phones.
Yeah, good song.
Five Times August was on our show last week
and after the release of this new single,
which is basically calling out all the musicians
who shilled for Big Pharma.
And that was Friday too, right? Yeah. And that was actually the day we had the music all set up
we could have totally had him complete uh inter-office yeah we have to work on that
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kept saying what do we do you want want the answers? They're in here.
The government receipts are in here. The gangsters are in here.
How many books do you need to sell
to pledge to become
the AG?
100,000. Is that it? Yeah.
It's a tough book market. I'm already a bestseller
on Wall Street Journal and Amazon. New York Times,
we're like, oh, you sold enough books to be a bestseller, but we're not
putting your book on there. So the point is, you can't
make yourself AG, but it's not really something you can guarantee
but if you sell a hundred thousand of these books you will pledge to do everything with
your power to become the ag ooh maybe two hundred thousand i think you want a different position
that's my new theory you might be onto something we can talk later but yes thank you bye government
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