Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #890 GOP Elects Mike Johnson As Speaker of The House Ending Stalemate w/Ron Coleman
Episode Date: October 26, 2023Tim, Brett (PCC), Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial), & Serge join Ron Coleman to discuss Mike Johnson being elected speaker, Jewish students being evacuated from event after being targeted by pro-Pal...estine mob, NYPD warning Jewish residents to avoid the Crown Heights area, & the collapse of San Francisco. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.
Trump ally, so sayeth CNN, has been elected House
Speaker three weeks after the McCarthy ouster.
OK, it's big news.
People are asking, who is this guy and what's he going to do?
And videos are popping up, both of him being epically based, but also mercilessly cringe.
Some people are arguing that he's woke.
Some people are arguing that he is a an ardent Trump ally who defended him during impeachment.
And those things are true. But then there's like a recording of him saying things
about, you know, critical race theory type stuff and people question him. But I think based on what
Matt Gaetz said recently on Steve Bennett's war room, there's really, really great stuff happening.
And this is a tremendous victory. The long story short of it is that Kevin McCarthy was secretly
sabotaging things and removing him from power was the right move. So either way, seeing pushback in any degree, I think is a step
forward. Now we need to see action. So we'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other stories,
a crazy video coming out of New York, Jewish students at Cooper Union locked in a room as
far leftists bang on the doors. They were locked in there for their own safety and escorted out
through tunnels in fear for their safety safety and escorted out through tunnels
in fear for their safety. And there's a bunch of stories about this. There's a report
that a police source has warned Jewish people in New York to avoid certain areas
because of the pro-Palestine marches. I just think it's getting out of control. It's crazy.
A lot of people, you know, they get superheated about this, but we absolutely talked about this
last time when you had that wave of violent crime against Hasidic Jews in New York and Orthodox Jews were being beaten and attacked.
This is this is the complaint about the far left.
They this is this is what they defend and this is what they do.
So we'll talk about all that before we get started.
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Joining us tonight to talk about all of this is Ron Coleman.
How you doing?
Is it Ron Coleman Esquire or?
Not really.
No.
You know, I'm a lawyer.
But who doesn't know I'm a lawyer? The only reason you ever use Esquire is either as a sort of semi-formal honorific to someone else.
You know, it's like doctor, but for lawyers.
Like doctor, but for lawyers.
Yeah.
But when you're Ron Coleman, the lawyer.
You're Ron Coleman.
What do you need?
Listen, I get out at the Quick Check in Passaic,
and the guy with the paper cup outside collecting, as we say,
is a lawyer.
And he's not even on social media.
He just knew.
He just knew.
Some guys you can just tell.
So is that your introduction?
Do you have anything else you want to add to your line of work or storied career?
I'm Ron Coleman.
Well, all right.
We also have Brett Dasavik hanging out.
What's going on, guys?
Yes, I am Brett Dasavik.
I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
This is New Pacific.
You should come hang out with us.
Also, is there like a lawyer walk?
Like a special walk?
Like a gate?
Yeah, is there like a walk that they...
You know, there might have once been been one but we're in a time
now when all you know all the admissions standards all the any anyone can be a lawyer you know so i
i don't think so i thought maybe the the homeless guy knew that they're by the walk that there was a
well i i think it's more like the radiation of a certain kind of light.
No, it's not the walk.
And I don't drive a BMW either.
We got Libby hanging out.
I'm back.
I'm back in Ian's chair.
How's it going, everybody?
I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com.
Glad to be here.
And I'm Serge.com.
And I'm ready when you are, Tim.
Here's the big news breaking history
being made trump ally mike johnson elected house speaker three weeks after mccarthy ouster the
republican house uh led house elected rep mike johnson as the new house speaker on wednesday a
major leadership change that comes three weeks after mccarthy was removed johnson a vocal
supporter of former president donald trump and a key congressional figure in the failed efforts to overturn the 2020 election, will now take the
reins of the bitterly divided House Republican majority and faces the looming threat of a
government shutdown next month. It's going to be interesting. I mean, I think I don't know if this
was him, but didn't didn't he say something about getting funding for for foreign foreign aid for Israel or war or something? Maybe that wasn't him. I don't know what I'm seeing, but didn't he say something about getting funding for foreign aid for Israel or war
or something? Maybe that
wasn't him. I don't know what I'm seeing. But I'm curious
what's going to happen. What's the first thing they're going to do?
Is it going to be government funding?
And is he going to go the same route as
Kevin McCarthy and go for the...
Is that a recording of me?
No, it's not a recording of you. I actually thought...
I thought I had this on.
I wanted to see what the live chat looked
like. Oh, okay. And
son of a gun, yeah,
because it's always amusing.
I turned the volume down.
Yeah, but I'm wondering, what's a...
Yeah, he did promise to... Semi-retarded is one of
the features. Everyone knows I'm a lawyer
and everyone knows that I'm brain damaged.
Alright, well, you're doing
well, but the
question I suppose is, is Mikeson going to be based or cringe so it's like schrodinger's
speaker right now we don't know yet he's like he's in a temporary stasis while we wait to figure that
out yeah i mean it is kind of fun to see people pretending and living and i were talking before
we're not neither of us is going to pretend oh yeah of course Mike Johnson never heard of him
never freaking heard of him and I've like been a
you know I guess I'm not like a
politics junkie like some people
but I'm pretty
interested in politics
maybe that's why he's the one who
got the speakership because everyone's just like
I don't know enough about him to complain
so he's like last round draft pick at this point
they tried everyone else
and they can't get anybody else to get through.
Yeah.
Because we were just talking yesterday saying like,
we don't know how long this is going to take.
And selfishly me, I was like, yes,
less government spending is going on right now.
Will we wait for this to get figured out?
But now, yes, I do think they'll end up
turning back on government spending.
I don't think there's going to be a shutdown now.
You don't think so?
You think they'll get something to do?
Yeah, they got a speaker.
I was just checking it out.
And apparently Johnson has been skeptical toward ukraine of late though he supported them
initially and supported u.s funding for ukraine initially and now he uh is interested to know
where our money is being spent which i think is a good thing i think we should know where the 113
billion dollars in less than two years has gone as for israel he does seem much
more pro-israel um than whom then for example then his then ukraine you know then ilhan omar
rashida talib or some of the other squad members in the house um and he says the u.s unequivocally
stands with israel will provide support and resources necessary
to rid the world and the Middle East of Hamas.
It's not just going to be Hamas.
It's going to be World War III.
Well, that may be, but that's where Mike Johnson stands.
So what's the scenario?
How's it World War III?
How does that happen?
There's two scenarios that have been presented by,
two prominent scenarios I've read.
One was from Ben Shapiro,
and one was from a former military chief out of the U ben shapir's position is that the u.s does not
get involved then you're going to see an escalation between hamas and israel which results in in
hezbollah and iranian backed militias attacking israel israel's retaliation will result in an
escalation eventually pulling in iran entirely... I didn't hear the world...
That sounds like a regional conflict.
Once Iran is involved, Israel then resorts to the Samson option,
nuclear weapons or counter-invasions into foreign countries,
which turns this into a Iran then calls in its allies,
Saudi Arabia gets involved, and one by one dominoes begin falling.
Now, that's Ben's argument.
I'm probably not giving it full justice. Ben is a super smart guy and i read that from him but the the counter
argument is if the u.s gets involved it will result in iran then directly getting intervening
in the region which then brings it russia etc etc okay russia not a not a thing anymore you don't
think russia's gonna back back Iran? Russia doesn't...
Russia can barely take care of itself in Ukraine.
They don't have the resources,
and their military capacity
has been so severely demonstrated
to be hollow.
I mean, their weapon systems,
their command and control... But elaborate on that what do you
mean they the one of the one of the main reasons their armor has failed so magnificently and
so many of their so many of so many things that they were counting on happening have not happened is because the corruption lack of training and lack of
resources has not been fully appreciated by the leadership but that's that's that's the history
of russia that's exactly right napoleonic wars that's exactly right but that's what's one and two
but so the only way the only the only deterrent russia has now as a counterweight to a first world military like the United States or Europeans is nuclear. there are serious questions about whether even their nuclear deterrent is,
like, you can't just take a snapshot of 1989 and say,
okay, well, they still have those missiles.
Yeah, but if they haven't been maintaining them and upgrading them.
Right, and many of them were in other territories.
And it's not only that, well, what the hell?
I mean, they'll shoot off a bunch of them, right?
No, you have to know when you use nuclear weapons you have to know exactly what's gonna happen yeah there's a certain margin of error but this doesn't doesn't i don't think that that counters
the point that if the conflict bleeds out beyond ukraine if the u.s gets dragged into four or five
different war fronts then you have a world war well Well, if the United States... We're already at war with Russia.
Right.
Well, that is true.
And I mean, I'm just curious.
Historically, when we looked at
conflicts in the Middle East,
there was this concern of the Soviet Union,
which had a well-developed relationship
with Arab clients.
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Until the 80s, and that began to crack up in the 80s, acting as a counterweight to the
United States. And that had a lot to do with the way wars ended in 67 and 73 and in the 80s.
But Russia isn't the Soviet Union, and the relationships... I mean, is is more but i still don't think this addresses what we're
talking about i mean there i don't think the argument is that there is a gigantic godzilla
monster we're scared of that what we're concerned about is dozens of nations entering conflict
that's the world war it's it's not like it's not like we're in this cold war scenario where it's
like the soviet union and the u. to start firing nukes at each other.
The concern is we're already at war in Ukraine, we're facing a potential war with China in Southeast Asia,
and now we've got the Middle East bubbling up and the US is sending massive fleets.
I think they announced that many more destroyers, ships are being sent out. I think the relevant question for almost everyone watching and listening is
I don't really
care. I think most people are saying
which of these
Middle East countries
have at each other. When we talk about
I'm afraid of World War III, what we really are saying
is are Americans going to
be involved? Well, that's the part
we want to share about.
We've got 19,000 personnel in the Mediterranean,
not including the latest deployments,
and we've got troops recently deployed into Europe,
into Poland, with our active...
We have special forces operating in Ukraine.
So all I'm saying is I think that...
I'm actually making, to some extent,
an argument about terminology.
Because maybe it's because I'm an old Cold Warrior.
When I hear World War III, I think, you know, the big one.
And you're agreeing with me.
No, we're not really talking about the big one.
We're talking about a more than local conflict.
No, we're talking about the big one.
We're talking about the big one.
So I haven't heard that yet.
But I think it sounds like what you're saying is there has to be one gigantic bad guy.
I'm saying that the United States is, notwithstanding all the damage that's been done to the military,
and in terms of readiness and all the things, is the sole hegemon in military affairs in the world.
There are competitors, but number one is far and away the United States.
The two carrier groups that are already in the region are already untouchable by pretty much everyone.
So the question is,
does the United States get to do whatever it wants or does it have to worry about a meaningful,
in other words, all right,
do we have to worry about Iran?
Yeah, that's a good question.
Can the United States do whatever it wants
or does it have to worry about enemies
who could take it down in certain ways?
I mean, the thing about
haven't we seen that though haven't hasn't like i'm i'm not remembering exactly but didn't we
have ships in the middle east at one point and they were taken down by iran with like you know
it was like a david and goliath type of thing and they took us down with not little well there there
was i think uh there was an attack yeah it wasn't Iran, I'm sure, paid for it.
I'm not remembering exactly what it was.
Now that would be the Biden administration paying it through Iran.
I think that was, yes, there was like a dinghy rolled up.
With some little bombs on it.
Of an old-fashioned.
In other words, what we're talking about here, in other words, there's always going to be
that counterforce, you know,
or that unconventional warfare,
you know, guerrilla type of risk.
That's a given.
The question I think that's really interesting one is,
does Iran say to itself,
we're going to attack American shipping
or rather American naval assets
because they're enabling the Israelis
to embarrass our clients in Gaza?
In other words, will they take the role
that Russia took when I was a kid
and said, you know, Israel's embarrassing the Syrians.
We have to now threaten to get involved.
It's reported across the board that U.S. bases have been attacked by Iranian-backed militias using drones and other means, injuring dozens.
The U.S. has announced that they will respond to this and are sending out more assets into the region.
The U.S. asked Israel to delay their invasion of Gaza to allow the U.S. to deploy more personnel
and Patriot missile systems and THAAD systems. Those seem to be specifically for Iran.
The concern being that as soon as Israel invades Gaza, then Iran is going to ramp up in some capacity.
And maybe it's just through militias, but the U.S. considers those already to be Iran
and is sending out missiles to prepare for conflict with Iran.
And it's not just about Iran.
It's about Iran, Russia, China, and any other country in between.
It doesn't need to be one big baddie the U.S. is scared of.
It needs to be that we're
already at war with russia no question we add in multiple fronts and you have world war world war
two was not just hitler you had you had a pacific theater as well which is literally what brought us
into the world world war japan was not our big baddie no one no one ever talks about um um what
i forgot his name was the name of the japanese emperor in world war ii
yeah yeah we don't go like can you talk about the atrocities of here nobody cares
hitler and germany i mean no no i mean what i'm saying is in america culturally we say hitler and
germany they were the big bad guys right even though it was world war and we were pulled into
it because of here you know right so we could be pulled into a world war that involves Xi Jinping or whoever else.
So my take on it as just, you know, just a lawyer in New Jersey, okay?
I'm not a military affairs expert, but I don't believe China considers it worth it to them
to get involved in this militarily i don't think russia has the
capacity but i do but i none of that it's it's it's not going to get involved don't you think
china could get involved with taiwan and then biden had said that we will military to militarily
defend taiwan and then like they've said we can afford three wars yeah i mean could we potentially
be um spending in Ukraine?
We already have guys on the ground in Ukraine and Kiev, like the special forces guys.
Could we be spending and like having guys in the Middle East and spending and having guys in the South China Sea?
Is that a, that's a likely scenario.
That would look like a world war to me.
So are you saying that China would opportunistically say, well, for the U.S.
Which then results in Vietnam losing it because China's already been blowing up Vietnamese fishing vessels claiming the South China Sea is their own.
South China Sea is a gigantic issue.
And then you get Australia.
Then you get South Korea.
You get Japan.
The region erupts now you have massive regional political
warfare hot conflict in southeast asia in the middle east in eastern europe world war and didn't
we just give australia or sell australia a bunch of nuclear subs well i feel like that there was
there was there was a while ago so i don't know i vaguely remember the details but i do know that
the u.s has been working with Australia specifically because of China and Taiwan.
The U.S. needs base of operations for the region.
What people need to understand when it comes to Taiwan is that Taiwan is, what is it, like 70 miles or something off of the coast of mainland China.
So for the U.S. to be able to defend Taiwan, you need a place to have your ships and refuel your planes.
And that is massively if difficult if not
impossible considering mainland china is literally right there and they're going to have an endless
supply stack it all right next to the shore and they're going to be like i can do this all day
now if they move on taiwan the fear is that japan's going to lose it south korea is going to
lose it vietnam's going to lose it then you've got all the other smaller countries got indonesia you've got singapore you've got uh the philippines so but is the argument that they would otherwise
not do this if the u.s were not paying attention to what's going on in the middle east if we weren't
my feeling is like when i think about china being opportunistic i I think if the U.S. weren't so extended, they wouldn't have the opportunity to go about doing that.
I hear that.
But I do think that China moving on Taiwan is an inevitability.
The issue is just that the U.S. seems to think Joe Biden, Janet Yellen, we can afford two wars.
We can afford three wars.
Yeah.
Do they believe that we can afford three?
Right.
Like, what better time is there to wait? Are they literally waiting for a third conflict we're not gonna go
on the third one we're gonna go on the fourth one right like is there a better time for them to do
that when we are as overextended as we are right now i don't know i mean are we are we overextended
i believe we i mean in what way like i believe massively yeah no no no no i don't i don't mean
an adjective i want to hear... I want metrics.
Are we...
Financially.
Yes, we are.
Oh, financially?
I didn't know that...
I thought that we just print money now.
I didn't realize that that was a factor.
Well, when they're talking about it,
when they were talking about...
They were talking about financially,
we can afford three wars
when we know that we can't.
We are overextended.
We have a military presence
defending the borders of Ukraine
and not our southern border, and that is the definition of overextended. We have a military presence defending the borders of Ukraine and not our southern border.
And that is the definition of overextended.
Well, no, that's I can't agree with you on that because that's just a definition of bad policy.
The reason that we're not doing anything about the southern border isn't because we're out of money.
It's because there's no will to do it.
I mean, that's an entirely purposeful.
I mean, it's hard to say that they spend the money when they want to spend the money they're sending people to texas to cut the
wires right that prevent immigrants from coming in that costs money that's it's it's a matter of
that that's a policy choice they're like 31 trillion in debt 35 trillion but i think it is
really important to define our term so when we say overextended, I mean financially,
it's a freaking disaster. But there is
no consideration whatsoever.
I mean, we've been
spending like a drunken sailor for 10
years. When's the last time an actual budget was
passed?
We don't do that in this country.
Debt ceiling.
I want to jump to this story. Let's bring it back home
because this is kind of crazy. We have this tweet from Yashir ali jewish students at cooper union are in the library
as protesters pound on the door listen with the sound on he says this is crazy listen
so they're chanting free free palestine while banging on the door trying to get into a room
where they've secured a handful of jewish students and uh let me see what tweets we have
carol markowitz uh says jewish students had to be evacuated via tunnels for their safety
in new york city uh look i think the far left i think they're deranged i think they're psychotic i think
they're dangerous mobs we saw that video out of minneapolis where they attacked the elderly man
in his car chased him down and then tried breaking out his windows all because he was like there by
accident oh sorry you kicked the power i did something yeah you kicked the plug i did it wrong
anyway yeah they tried they they they would they'd
kill this guy you know they because what happens is it's the snowflake in the avalanche so i talk
about all the time i don't i don't think it's fair to say that your average person at one of
these protests has the has the motive and intention to kill a person what happens is someone walks
down the street and one person shoves them the next person runs up and
kicks them the next person runs up and kicks them again each of them thinking i'll kick the guy but
after getting kicked five or six times you're dead yeah and so this is what you see when this guy is
pulling out through this car i think i think these students if that door was opened would have been
mercilessly beaten and hospitalized does anyone have the slightest idea what these protesters purported to want to do with the students?
Well, the funny thing is what you were talking earlier about language, right?
So when we talk about it here,
what scares me the most about this is the use of language.
So they're not saying hurt the Jews,
they're saying free Palestine,
which gives them a sort,
it allows them to
put like to terroristically
threaten these people without
understanding, without having to admit that what they want
to do is hurt another person because it's
changing the language ever so
subtly so that you don't have to feel
as if you're threatening someone or making
terroristic threats. It's very different.
And you can make these kids believe that
what they're pushing for is actually a noble cause anything they don't believe anything these people are not
sitting down and discussing the merits of the region that is not what's happening every one
of the protests i've ever been to with these leftists 90 have no idea what's going on my
favorite moment one of my favorite moments was during occupy wall street and what they would
what they would chant the the communists would chant anti-capitalista they'll go ah auntie auntie capitalista and okay i get it
and you would hear 90 of the people saying adiga about obisto because they have no idea what's
being said let's go brandon and so there's a live stream i've got where i asked the guy i was like
what are you chanting and he's like, oh, I'm chanting with him.
I'm like, I know.
What are you saying?
And he goes, oh, I don't know.
And he just tries to walk away.
But it's gibberish nonsense there.
That's why those people are so dangerous.
They're mindless zombies.
That's what I'm saying.
If what they were, if what somebody had got them chanting was a direct threat to the people
in that building, would those same people have followed through and continued bashing
on the door?
You believe that they would.
I believe that have like, I have been to these riots the most rabid of them yes no no no no the
most banal of them yeah the most i have i have seen people who showed up not even knowing a
part of what happened chuck a brick at a cop because when when when when the avalanche begins
they're all doing one small thing they don't find unreasonable.
A single person picking a brick out of the ground and chucking it at a person is an extreme act.
But what happens is one guy, this happened in, I think it was, I can't remember where it was.
It might have been D.C.
One guy starts pulling bricks out of the ground.
He walks into the ground and then he starts like chipping away at the brick.
Another guy walks up and then pops
it up. Another guy walks, grabs it. Then one
guy tosses it to a guy. Then the guy gets it and just
throws it. That guy has no idea what's going
on. That was not the actions
of one person who consciously decided
to pick up a brick and then throw it at a cop.
It was a bunch of people screaming
in anger, not paying attention. And then all of a sudden
someone tosses a brick to him and he catches it and he just chucks
it without a second thought. Look when they went to Tucker Carl he catches it and he just chucks it. Without a second thought.
Look when they went to Tucker Carlson's house
and started banging on the door. Or when they went
to Cassandra Fairbank's house with a bunch of fireworks
and started blasting at her house, then the media
lied about it even happening.
Listen, the problem here isn't these animals.
They're a problem, but they're not
the problem. The problem is that
the institutions that have been
given and accepted the responsibility for protecting human beings from animals.
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Have refused to do so. Well, and they've refused to do so not just in a physical sense, right?
They've refused to do so in an intellectual sense. So the institutions that are supposed to be raising our nation's leaders to be, you know, thought leaders, to be intellectual,
to be critical thinkers, to think deeply, to examine all sides of an issue, to make decisions
in a good and appropriate and moral and ethical way, they have abandoned their obligation to do
that. And they have instead force fed them, indoctrinated them in these wasteful ideologies
that are intent essentially on destroying American culture and society.
Yes, that's true. But this is that is not what we are seeing here.
No, these are monsters these these students say that don't know what's going on
don't care what's going on all they know is one of their friends says are you going to the protest
they went okay and then they said here's here's this here's the time and the date and they showed
up then people started chanting something so they chanted along the people banging on the door right
now though that individual banging the door just thinks they're making noise they don't think in their
mind they're terrorizing people but the other people behind them hear the banging and the
fervor and they're imagining the people banging on the door are trying to bust it down to hurt
people so when the door finally breaks open and they all rush in one person in a mask is going to run up and smack
one of the jewish students and then someone seeing that will start filming and chasing after
and then i've seen this in person i was in san jose at a trump rally and i watched them
beat one of their own one of their own protesters so what happened was why did they do that they
did not know who he was and it did not matter.
The moment he backed away, he became an other to the mob and they chased him and started punching him.
Why?
Because he was running.
That's it.
They chased him down, punched him in the mouth.
And I and then I was talking to him.
He's like, I'm here protesting Trump.
They punched me.
He's bleeding from the mouth.
There's a crowd of people.
One of these guys.
And that's why I said like these things are
ridiculously dangerous it's mindless when a scuffle breaks out i'll give you another story i was at
columbia university mike cernovich was speaking this was several years ago and one person in the
crowd recognized me and didn't like me so he yelled that's tim pool do not let him film you
so you know what i did when he pointed i I looked with where he was pointing. Cause I know how these mobs operate.
Everybody turns into my, in my direction and they're looking for the person against them.
So I turned with them and I'm going like, where's he at? And everybody's shrugging,
like, where's he at? And he's like this guy right here. And I'm like,
and then someone walks up to a random photographer and starts
screaming at him about he's the problem and i'm like because they couldn't identify the other
because i know what these what happens at these events you go to one of these protests
and if you are discernibly another one person will push you then as soon as the fighting happens and
you start running away they'll start chasing after you for no reason just because they're like oh
they're running i'm running then when they see other people running after them they're like what's happening what's
happening why is he running get him get him then they shove you down and start kicking you literally
for no reason right we've seen this in our literature for years too i mean it's in orwell
it's in kafka it's in ray bradbury luke rudkowski was in uh was in germany we were in uh hamburg during i think it was the g20 and luke was bought
was was with a german journalist walking down the street when some random dude yelled nazi
schweinhund at him and then he was like what and then all of a sudden random people who are sitting
on the ground ran up and started punching luke in the back and in the head and then luke and
this journalist not not Nazis,
were there just filming things,
started running.
People were chasing them.
They made it to first responders who then treated them for scrapes and bruises.
And watch Luke's video of this.
It's a question of,
why did these random people
who were just sitting on the ground
run up and start punching Luke for no reason?
This is what these mobs do.
So you're saying they're just driven by themselves they're just
like driven by it's like a feeding frenzy like a shark yeah like piranhas it's it's or those
sharks that like watch the video of the car of the car in minneapolis that drove through the protest
very slowly nobody got hit as soon as he starts driving away people will run after the car and
it's it's innocuous it's a person will have a camera and they'll run after the car and it's, it's innocuous. It's a person will have a
camera and they'll run towards the car just to film it. People behind him see him chasing the
car. So they chase, then the whole crowd sees a bunch of people running and they all run to see
what's going on. Eventually they surround the car and then someone goes, that's him. No one has any
idea or any information. And then one guy who hears that thinks he must be a bad guy and starts kicking and stomping on the car.
Other people join in.
Old guy in the car is freaking out like, why am I being attacked?
And then tries to escape.
Imagine what it says to these students, too, when the university does not have the people protesting violently removed, but instead has to evacuate them as if they were being rightfully targeted
rightfully targeted right so what does that say to them that they're not actually there to protect
you the one who's being assaulted the one who's being you know we saw this in university of
washington as well so there were these big basically pro-hamas protests at the university
of washington and some students were speaking,
like a dean was there,
and some students were speaking to the dean saying,
you know, these people want us dead.
They want to kill us.
And the dean was trying to get the students,
the Jewish students who were complaining about it,
who were in tears,
trying to get them to move on
and stop complaining about it
so that the pro-terrorist mob
could continue their protest.
Which they're doing in your live chat right now, by the way.
Oh, really?
Oh, my God.
I mean, there are three or four people
who just keep repeating the same thing.
I mean, it's wild.
Welcome to the internet.
Yes, well, you have become a crypto Jew.
That's not true.
Cassandra Fairbanks, our booker,
proves that we're actually anti-Semitic.
No, no, that is... So you're both crypto're actually anti-semitic no no that's that is
so you're both the work you and anti-semitic at the same time that's amazing well that's okay
because the jews are both uh are both um you know control the world's money supply and and also
people who who are scavengers who live off the uh you know let me let me let me pull the story from C.L.
Love.
I'm not familiar with this outlet, but they wrote police source.
Beware of Eastern Parkway this Shabbos.
I hope I'm pronouncing correctly.
Got it.
You nailed it.
It says a propel city and protest has been planned for this Shabbos afternoon near the Crown Heights neighborhood.
This is yikes.
This is from the is from today.
And they say the flood Brooklyn for Gaza protest is scheduled 3 p.m. this Shabbos at the Brooklyn Museum in Crown Heights and is expected to draw large crowds in support of Palestinians in Gaza.
Quote, Jews should definitely avoid the area, a police source told COL Live.
There's no intel at this time in which direction the protest will head.
Locals should definitely stay away from the Eastern Parkway in that area.
Now, the question, of course, is it's hard for Jews to avoid Crown Heights.
Well, sure. But the question is, is this like what's the source?
You know, I mean, there's respect to see all of I'm not familiar with them.
Should we believe this? Let me tell you this right now.
If there is going to be a leftist pro-Palestine march and you are Jewish, you I would I would tell you.
And it sucks to say, but you are in danger from these people.
I think so, too.
No question.
This is Crown Heights.
Crown Heights is where the Lubavitch Casino lives.
The Brooklyn Museum is basically in Crown Heights.
And there were riots in Crown Heights.
That's where the Crown Heights riots took place during the Dinkins administration.
He told the police to stand down. Eric administration. He told the police to stand down.
Eric Adams won't tell the police to stand down.
He can't really.
It's not on it.
Well,
he ran on a,
I'm going to get tough on crime ticket.
Yes.
And he's also been,
he's also come out very strongly in a way that Bill de Blasio certainly
would not have done.
De Blasio doesn't know what strong means.
He certainly doesn't know, you know, a lot of things that Bill doesn't know.
Right, for sure.
But Adams has been good, and he is a former cop.
But it is a, this is a gigantic strain, as we were actually, we were talking about this before we started.
This is a strain on the Democratic coalition.
But in New York, of all places,
there's going to be a very high...
You see, the thing about Lubavitcher, Hasidim,
is they don't back down.
They're the only Jews left in Crown Heights,
which in the 50s, as late as the 50s and 60s,
was a very significant Jewish neighborhood that had many different kinds of Jews in it.
Every other Jewish community, for all practical purposes, left Crown Heights when, as they used to say, the neighborhood changed. But the Grand Rabbi of Lubavitch, the Rebbe, Rabbi Schneerson, said, we're not going
to run. This is our neighborhood and we're staying here. These are tough guys. The problem is they're a minority. Jews are not actually particularly handy in the United States with self-defense.
But on the other hand, a lot of lessons have been learned.
The idea that the New York City police would permit an encounter between the, you know, Hasidim of Lubavitch and this protest is insane. We don't
know which direction they're going to go in. You got to make sure you know what direction they go
in and you got to make sure it doesn't go in the direction of- Do you think there'll be violence
in Crown Heights? I really don't think so. But then again, a lot of things have happened that
I never thought would happen. Yeah. We have this tweet from nikki freed she's of course a democrat running uh for governor
in florida chairwoman of the florida dems she responded to a video we just talked about in a
previous segment jewish students at cooper union college have been locked inside the library for
their own safety as a mob of anti-israeli protesters block the doors she said this is
outrageous those are not israeli students right she said this is outrageous and we are seeing these types of videos and stories all
over our country we live in a civil society where this is not only not okay but illegal and everyone
has a responsibility to stand up against hate speech let me also be very clear anti-israel is
anti-semitism the democrats are going to be ripped to shreds this election cycle
over this issue really you really think so absolutely nikki fried is trying to win over
democrat votes in florida and she's coming out in defense of israel good luck now a lot of a lot of
prominent liberals have have begun to push back on the left
we had uh and people in pop culture how look at the harvard students who came out there was
it was a blacklist against them because they're they're they're pro-hamas and and it was not just
pro-palestine it was them calling the hamas the resistance fighting back i mean this is crazy
stuff if you're a democrat and you need that 10 to 20 percent of progressive left vote and you are pro-Israel, you've lost it.
No question.
These people are fervently anti-Israel.
There were also 3,000 U.K. artists who signed a letter that was basically pro-Palestinian, pro-ceasefire, anti-Israel.
So we were talking about this yesterday the amount of celebrities i've watched come out and try to find middle ground only to be torn to shreds on both sides has been
truly incredible to watch as what three thousand of them signed the letter to biden two days ago
right that said that please yes the hollywood people right so a lot of those people who are
like leftists uh or at the very least they vote Democrat all the time. Right.
And they're realizing now just how fractured aspects of the party that they've supported for all these years actually are because they're seeing something they've never seen before.
It's like I said earlier, I will never be more amazed at the idea of the people who've
been calling people Nazis for four years, breaking down and doing this.
It's absolutely insane.
But I just don't think that a lot of the celebrities who maybe they vote Democrat, but they don't pay super close attention to politics
other than orange man bad, right? They don't really look at it that closely. Maybe they follow
their local governor's race or something like that. But they didn't realize if you're not super
politically aware, if you're not following what's going on in the news, you wouldn't know this was
happening. It's kind of the same way when we were talking a while ago
about what was happening in England a couple of years ago
when the Muslim population was protesting LGBTQ stuff
within the school districts there.
That was so fascinating.
Right?
So it goes a lot to that same.
They don't realize that there is fracture within their audience
because it's a weird type of cognitive dissonance.
That's happened in Ireland
and that's been happening in Canada too.
I think it's because they don't pay attention.
So we have this idea.
It's a really good idea.
It's a game show.
I think we should do it.
So maybe we just need to get someone
who's going to start setting it up.
It's a trivia, political trivia game show
where we get left versus right
and we ask basic topical news questions.
And then we see who gets the most correct answers.
Maybe a little history.
Maybe a little modern history.
No, no, of course.
Right, yeah.
For sure.
Like who built the Berlin Wall?
This would be interesting because what would happen is I think both sides would end up saying, I'm correct.
And they would cite their news source, which would be CNN.
And then somebody else would cite another source.
Or they would just. Citing sources. It doesn't matter.
The question that I like to cite is, what was the name of the Ukrainian prosecutor fired after Joe Biden threatened to withhold one billion dollars in loan guarantees?
Of course, the left is going to say, huh?
And the right is going to go, Victor Shokin.
And it's like, well, another thousand points for the left will just say that
didn't happen and you're like actually it did happen and you'll have to explain it no you're
wrong you're wrong so so the lefties won't come on your show because they will not they will not
be confronted with facts they will well they you know how many times i've tried to get people from
the left on my show of course but my point the point i want to make going back you know
outside of the game show question is tara strong voice actress very well known like one of the
most famous voice actor to actresses of our generation harley quinn batgirl timmy turner
you name it uh she was very woke and very left despite the fact the left has been saying for
a decade plus i mean for a
long time that they want to end israel patrice cullors 2015 black lives matter saying end the
imperialist project that is known as israel and and and she didn't care she didn't care when people
like i or you or any of us said calmly hey like this is not this is not good you shouldn't support
these groups no she blocks you
she says screw you i'm i'm gonna stay in my lane and keep getting my paychecks until they attacked
until hamas massacred a bunch of civilians and that's part of their doctrine to kill civilians
and capture them for as bargaining chips and when she got mad and tweeted this is an outrage they
fired her yep they fired her from her job didn't even tell her didn't even
tell her she found out on social media just tweeted she's no longer going to be voicing
this character on our show yeah with without without like seriously you got a problem with
someone's tweet you talk you call them on the phone first nope and she was shocked she was so
shocked by this yeah and you know that's like what happened to gina carano yeah but gina carano did
nothing wrong right like tara but tara chose to side with people who are evil and have for a decade been longer than this, but prominently calling for an end to Israel.
And she ignored that.
Because at the time what she was protesting or what she was virtue signaling about had nothing to do with it.
So it didn't matter at that time.
If it's BLM, they're worried in 2020 about what's going on with Black Lives Matter and George Floyd.
But it's just that the chickens had not come home to roost yet because now we're here.
You know, there's a famous poem that's kind of about when you don't speak up for other people and what eventually happens to you.
And I'll tell you something.
Wait, Amy Schumer wrote that, right?
Well, speaking of Schumers, that was exactly the point I was gonna make you
know frankly there is no group in America that is more responsible for
this state of affairs then the Jews the Chuck Schumer's of the world the liberal
donors who have been screaming about how the the ADLs of the world,
what we have to worry about is white supremacists,
white nationalism, ignoring what was seething and bubbling.
And as Tim said, all you had to do was pay attention.
They refused to do that because they're on a team.
And their team, they replaced the faith of their ancestors with the faith of fdr interesting
and the american the the the the church of the american assimilated jew is the democratic party
and democrat and jewish institutions that have been so profoundly influential
because of the ability of Jews to succeed in so many areas of endeavor.
All the things that these lunatics in your live chat are going on about,
the disproportional, yes, it is true that Jews are disproportionately represented in areas requiring
incredibly hard work
high intelligence and diligence
surprisingly
To people who are unfamiliar with those concepts, but not surprisingly to the rest of us
Jews
Have been in a position to stop it from happening,
and they have not only let it happen, they have enabled it.
Someone like Chuck Schumer,
nothing is more important to him than maintaining his personal position
of power and privilege in the United States Senate
so that he let the Iran deal go through.
He was given permission to meekly wave his hand
about it. If Schumer had not wanted it to go through, it would not have gone through.
You mean the $6 billion?
No, I'm talking about the original Obama-Iran deal.
Oh, that going back. Yeah, yeah.
AIPAC, the entire purpose of the existence of AIPAC is to prevent things like the Iran deal.
They did not prevent it because they didn't want to rock the boat with the Democratic Party.
Have Jews woken up?
Probably not.
Never feels like they ever do.
Like any group.
I just want to mention to people, we have been absolutely paying attention to what's going on in Maine.
Oh, the shooting there?
Yeah, but it's like, I just want to let you guys know.
It just happened.
There are multiple scenes.
Some people are concerned it may be a terror attack.
Two active shooters in different locations.
Some reporting up to 16 have been shot.
But we don't know anything right now other than that's all I can say.
I mean, there's nothing else to be said, right?
If you're in the area in, what was itwiston lewiston mania uh lock your doors and stay inside
what the police are saying i guess when it comes to maine you don't have to worry about any jews
or even the arabs being involved i don't think that's true yeah i don't think that's true i
don't think that's true anywhere in the country i i i i don't want to say too much but i believe
there is a potentiality
that this is related to Israel-Palestine.
Could be.
There's also, I mean,
there's been a lot of illegal immigration
across the Canadian border, oddly.
New Hampshire just put together a coalition
or something to try and deal with illegal immigration
coming in from the north.
So there has been a lot of that.
But also you see with the immigration situation,
you've seen the Biden administration literally flying people all over the country to disseminate the seven
million people that they want to come into this country for some crazy reason uh in as many
different places as possible but to what you were saying earlier like why why they vote for something
why they vote for the democrat party democratic party when you feel like it may be going against
interest but it's also like
think about what they do in Chicago.
They get rid of one guy
and they vote in another guy who's going to
implement policies just as bad.
High crime areas don't vote in.
I feel like gone are the days, and maybe I'm just
young so I don't understand, but I don't
see New York ever going
back to somebody like Giuliani.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't feel like any of these bigger, at least the cities,
the big cities that have a large condensed group of people,
I don't feel like they learn their lessons.
Well, the middle class has left these cities.
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Ontario. You can only, to live in New York City, you have to either be very wealthy. I left in
January after like 20 something years. I remember hearing, I said in January, that was the last
middle-class person. And that was you. That was that was me yeah because i have like a chart at my you know in my let's let me pull the story
as we get into the subject and then we'll we'll we'll jump back daily mail reports new save san
francisco gets four million dollars in funding from billionaires even as more than 40 000 crimes
are recorded across the city this year and office vacancy rates are at 34
percent and then you see my favorite is like now you see these like i love when the media puts out
these propaganda pieces it's like the most uh the people with the happiest the happiest places to
live in america and it's all of these cities and you're like how is that possible when the crime
is this high and you look at the index about like what actually they constituted to mean happiness.
And it tends to be things like abortion rights and all these other things like killing babies.
Yes, exactly.
If that makes you happy, then that's fine.
But it's like nobody learns their lessons in these cities anymore.
I just don't see anything changing.
Of course, like I said, it could be because I'm younger and I just don't have the perspective of however many years.
You look San Francisco can be saved.
How really?
With the billionaires
there there is a there is a billionaire who could save it which one no please donald trump donald
trump donald trump yeah he saved new york city he's pretty good so you know about juliani was
great sure sure but donald trump is is credited with turning uh new york around you know what
you know about this run you know what, right? Tell me this particular narrative.
So as the story goes, New York in the 80s was a crime-ridden hellhole, I mean, into the 90s.
You had the subway vigilante that people were cheering on because they were so sick and tired of the crime.
And it's crazy for me to look at these photos of the old subways, of how it used to be.
That wasn't the 80s.
That was the 70s.
And it was Ed Koch who began the process of reclaiming.
In other words, the 80s was the turnaround decade.
So the argument for Donald Trump's involvement
was that he started,
it really is a simple story.
Property was cheap.
There was an opportunity to create this vision
of upscale upscale new
york living donald trump started to build and develop in the area and try and work to convince
many other wealthy people to come back because it was the cool place to be and this is where you
needed to be with all the luxury brought back tax revenues and that's that's that's the very very
very simple version i watched like a two-hour documentary breaking down the real estate development
and how it started to change neighborhoods.
I could see a narrative that says,
you know, among the people who made a change
were Donald Trump.
But the idea that Donald Trump, you know, I was there.
I was there.
And it was interesting that Donald Trump was building luxury housing.
And there was also a very remarkable incident.
There was a skating rink in Central Park that had fallen into disrepair like everything in New York did in the 60s and 70s.
And New York City had been utterly unable to repair it.
They could not.
Wollman Rinker was called.
This is a great story.
Right.
I love this one.
Utterly unable.
And then just, you know, because all these work rules and all these unions.
Donald Trump, who in the time was just Donald Trump, okay?
He just was this guy who, you know,
who was a real estate developer.
He says, I can do this.
And the consulate minister says,
all right, wise guy, let's see you do it.
And in like three months.
He fixed it up.
He fixes it up.
And it was this great free enterprise story that, you know,
see what a can-do person can do if he's not working for the government.
And that really put him on the map in a sort of political way that he had not previously been at the time.
But, you know, New York is one of those places that you can hardly ever really learn any lessons from that are applicable.
In other words, New York.
New York is its very own place.
Right.
When I grew up, the garment district was a place where garments were manufactured.
New York was still an industrial city and it was a shipping hub, neither of which it is at all anymore.
Well, during COVID, I remember because I had extra time on my hands.
I lived in Bay Ridge and I was always seeing the, I would like ride my bike down the Greenway
and there were the massive ships coming in, like those huge cargo ships.
There were a ton of them.
And then at a certain point, it stopped for a while.
And I was like, that's not good.
Well, but there's very, I mean.
The shipping just kind of like dried up.
Shipping is now basically done in the port of Newark and Elizabeth.
Right.
You see those giant things when you drive out of the city. So New York Harbor wasn't deep enough to be containerized, to take the big, a lot of reasons.
It also had to do with the corruption of the unions on the docks.
But.
The Merchant Marines.
The point.
Which is still, you get like family connections
to get into the Merchant Marines still.
The thing though is that New York, despite this,
despite losing its industrial base
and its transport significance,
the way all the great Northeastern cities did,
because it had been a center of finance,
Wall Street kept New York alive through the 90s,
when deregulation came
and Wall Street started becoming the racket that it is now.
And that happened.
And then between Koch and Giuliani,
the rebuilding of New York
into a tourist destination
was, you know,
best case scenario,
you're never going to make Cleveland
or Philadelphia
that kind of destination.
It simply doesn't have the attraction.
So New York, you can't,
even if it were true that Donald Trump did this in New York,
San Francisco is a,
of course, actually, San Francisco does have
the tourist aspect to it.
But I mean, look, my law firm,
Dillon Law Group, Dillon Law Group,
our headquarters is in San Francisco.
That's where most of our,
first of all, we can't even hire support staff in San Francisco anymore.
Really?
Why not?
People will not work in the city, in San Francisco.
I saw this wild video today of this woman who was just in tears.
And she was like, I just got my first nine to five job after finishing college.
Oh, yeah.
That's a fun one.
You must have seen this.
Yeah, we talked about it.
I can't believe it how do you
have time for having a personal life if you work a nine to five job and i was like that video yeah
are you no when we when we started watching that like i was like okay dunk on this girl right but
it's like look she's she's not wrong she's not wrong but she's also she's also young and she
will she will eventually the the pain of coming home from work when it's dark
out will scab over and she'll just understand that that's the way the world is yeah like the
rest of us it's very easy to like to dunk on stuff like that because that's my first thought
was the same thing it's like look you gotta work that's the way the world works i'm sorry you just
have to go to work but sometimes but when i watch that and it, look, she's, it was like her first day after her first nine to five shift.
It happens.
She'll change.
So just, we're trying to be careful with this about Maine.
There are some high profile accounts tweeting that some photos of the suspect have been released.
I'm seeing that too.
Many people are saying it's two individuals of Middle Eastern descent.
It's very preliminary. There's a two individuals of middle eastern descent it's very preliminary there's a police go ahead sorry the suspect does look like they may be middle eastern
the photos released i don't know for sure um and there's a police scanner video going around
of what appears to be dispatchers or someone the police saying two males one armed with a gun
middle eastern descent maroon suv But we don't know that any
of these things are real. And I bring this up because, you know, if you're in the area, you
need to stay safe. I don't know if this information could help, but I will say if people are putting
out fake information, you need to make sure you're looking towards trusted sources and directly
to law enforcement if you're in the area. uh the the big concern right now is like there are some parody accounts tweeting this video this could be a fake clip of
a police gang because people are just trying to sow chaos which is horrifying and it's terrifying
i don't know for sure but a lot of people uh are saying they've seen similar things outside of this
and a few high profile accounts are saying middle eastern uh described as middle eastern so that's that that that's it for now it's not confirmed don't know
please stay safe that that you know that was basically why when you were like it's you know
maine probably not related i'm like at just because the guy's middle eastern doesn't mean
it is related but there's with what we've seen so far you know there's there's one story we didn't pull up where a guy broke into the home of a Jewish family in California and was threatening to kill them.
So, yeah, that's crazy, too.
Do you want to live in a city right about now?
You know where I want to live is West Virginia.
It just never makes sense.
We all have guns.
Now, the more that I see all of this stuff in all of these cities, and that's what I'm saying.
Like they don't it doesn't seem like every voting cycle they ever learn their lesson.
Right.
These places become more crime ridden with I'm saying. It doesn't seem like every voting cycle they ever learn their lesson, right? These places become more crime-ridden with every election
cycle. It gets more... Remember when...
How long ago was it? Like two months ago
when Kai Sinat did the PlayStation 5
giveaway, like 20,000 people
showed up and just hundreds of thousands
of dollars of damage gets done.
But look, this is my point.
That dude did
a PlayStation giveaway
and people started riding and destroying and attacking people.
People were getting beaten up in the street.
Why?
There's no political cause there.
It doesn't matter.
Because people go insane in large crowds.
So basically cities were just the bad.
Cities are just the problem.
Oh, yeah.
It's people being condensed.
Not all people do.
You know what's crazy?
Not all people go insane in large crowds. Well, not all people do. But what's great not all people go insane in large crap well not all people do but there i mean i think that it is i think that everyone has the
capability for to become a monster it's true that not all people do thinking you know i mean it's
you think you do do i think i do yeah oh for sure i don't think you do i think i i mean i think if i
don't think i do i am at greater risk of becoming a monster than if I...
It's not just being a monster.
You have to be very considerate.
In large crowds, people are not just being violent.
They're also just being very, very stupid.
So going insane is not just about a person deciding to smash a window.
It's people acting in irrational ways.
Okay.
So...
I got to tell you something. There are people,
and it includes everyone in this room right now,
who will never be swept away by that.
You're correct,
but it's a small number.
And you have to be aware of it.
It might be the five of us.
Well, you know what the thing is,
nobody else.
Having been on the ground,
and again,
I assume first responders
can probably speak to this way better than I,
but having been in numerous conflict situations, urban conflict, civil unrest, I can tell you that out of the 500 people in the crowd, you'll see three act rationally.
And the rest are just, you wonder why someone would do such a thing.
Like, you ever watch Indiana Jones?
Well, January 6th, by the way.
Oh, no.
January 6th,th frankly there were people
it was dumb to go in the first place it was an obvious it was an obvious trap whether you
whether it was meant set up as a trap by the government or not i'm not even getting into
but you'd have to be a schmuck i think but people who did not go there looking to make
trouble definitely lost their head.
But that's not necessarily what I mean.
Have you ever seen the movie Prometheus?
No.
Have you guys seen Prometheus?
Brad, of course, has seen all of it.
Okay, you know the scene when the giant ring ship is rolling forward?
Okay, so it's a gigantic spaceship.
It's a big donut, and it is rolling,
and there is a person running in the line of the ship
as it's about to crush them
and they get crushed and you ask yourself like that was dumb why didn't they run to the left
yeah and it's like i wonder why and it's like a kind of pull you're like that's stupid if i was
doing it let me tell you let me tell you i have been at so many riots where people have been shot
and everyone runs straight down the line of where the person is shooting and being chased and i've
just been like
why do they do that because people just go insane psychology of public panic and and my attitude is
like why did you not turn left and like just break away from the crowd and you may be in a way like
you may be more able to think like in a in a high pressure situation you may be more prone to
thinking rationally than other people are well Well, I think it could be experience.
Yes.
But I think this is my point is that it's not just about whether they're going to attack.
It's about the general breakdown of cognitive function.
And right now we're in a society like a lot of these, they're young people, right?
We have a heavily medicated society.
We have a very, very doomeristic society right now where kids are angry.
Kids are upset.
They're being constantly bombarded with fear porn about climate change, about all of these things.
They're told the world's going to end in 12 years by politicians.
And you wonder why people are so on edge and so easy to push to violence or push to irrational acts.
My wife is always referring.
Now on strike for Gaza. The well-respected and highly accomplished writer
for Legal Insurrection, Jane Coleman,
who is Mrs. Coleman, my wife,
is always referring to the work about crowd psychology
by Elias Canetti.
And he deals with what Tim is talking about here. And in his work, he really expands
the application of crowd psychology to a tremendous number of phenomena in society.
But you should look at that book, Tim, and tell me what's in it, because between you and Jane, I don't have to read it.
Oh, he won the Nobel Prize in 1981, that guy?
He was quite a big deal.
Interesting.
And that's what we're talking about here,
is the madness of crowds.
And I don't want to be unrealistic about it.
I recognize that.
But I do think that people who are more civilized will act more civilized in large numbers,
and people who are less civilized
will act less civilized in large numbers.
We once thought we had a civilization here.
Well, we did have a civilization when we built it.
And we built it so big and so strong that it's taking a long time to crumble.
And then what happened was we started saying we should work really, really hard to make
sure people who are unwell can continue to be a part of our society.
But there's good things about that.
We want to help people survive.
Right.
Well, there's the unwell.
I mean, what's happened to public spaces in general, that's the San help people survive right well there's the unwell i mean public there's what's
happened to public spaces in general there's that's the san francisco story right is that we
gave up the the the idea that a society is entitled to not necessarily act cruel, cruelly towards people who are unwell, but to protect itself and its
spaces and its children, its vulnerable people, people, and its vulnerable people
from those who are unwell. That's one issue. Then there's the other issue of
the importation of pre-modern societal units.
That's a crazy thing that's happening right now.
The importation of, as you say, pre-
What did you say?
Pre-modern.
Pre-modern societal units.
I mean-
That is pretty wacky.
And then-
That's where we are.
And then also refusing to encourage assimilation
and telling them that their culture is better than ours.
Well, so there's a story that I was told.
I can't remember.
I heard this about a Saudi Arabian town that had a lot of oil and for the entirety of their
small town's existence, it was very tribal.
No computers, phones, none of this stuff.
And then when oil was discovered, they were all sudden very, very, very wealthy.
And they did not adapt very, very well to having mass wealth.
And what happened was they were just covered in gold chains and rubies and jewelry.
To them, when you're in Livingston's Way, the status symbols were not fancy cars, was not big skyscrapers and penthouses.
It wasn't the luxury infinity pool.
It was gold and chains and things like this and having your jewelry so when they got a lot of money they just amplified everything
that was about luxury to them so they ended up just covering themselves in gold and uh that was
basically explained to me as like what happens when you abruptly just give maximum wealth to
one group of people and it's and it really is, it's regardless of the level of development,
this,
this behavior exists.
And it's,
and it's obvious because you can only know what you know.
For instance,
if you go to your average American and give them a ton of money,
what are they going to do?
They're going to buy a big house.
They're going to get a big pool.
They're not going to act outside of societal norms.
Lottery winners.
Why so many lottery winners end up losing most of the money because they did not uh how they end up getting to it they don't actually know how to invest or how to
build the wealth but it's not just that it's like you know elon musk wants to build a spaceship
the average person who gets billions of dollars doesn't build a spaceship yeah they they want to
do things that they they that they believe is luxury and and their desire so nice cars big houses you know big big properties
and things like that many of them don't go and buy horses but horses are expensive and horses
can be considered dressage of fancy no no it's they don't act outside of their their culture
so if you bring people into the united states that go from an impoverished city in Honduras into the U.S., they're going to, with access to these resources, amplify them in a way more akin to their society and less akin to ours.
It's not about level of technological development.
If they have certain behaviors when they get money, they go out and have this special kind of party with 13 kinds of booze or whatever.
They'll do that same thing here.
And then we'll say things like, shouldn't they be taking care of their house and whatever?
Shouldn't the people in this small village be installing plumbing and like buying cars and building roads?
We're so shocked that they buy gold and jewelry and gems.
That was luxury.
This is why people make fun making the nouveau riche well okay but i think on the other end of the scale the point you're making is the fallacy of liberalism
one of the great fallacies of liberalism has always been poverty is what makes people
misbehave and the fact that's still the line why do people why do palestinians from gaza
massacre people and and burn them alive poverty it's asinine it's an asinine well that's that's
an that's an extremely but listen i think poverty is a huge component. It's a component, but the point is, you have societies that have lacked wealth forever
and have nonetheless been stable, nonviolent.
Like what?
Well, the Eastern European Jews were remarkably poor in the 20th century,
and certainly those in the Pale Settlement in Russia.
But they were a minority.
They were a minority.
So it's maybe not a very good example.
But it was still a stable society.
And so was Yemen, for example.
Moroccans and Yemen. In other words, much of the Middle East,
before the Western powers started screwing things up.
So like before the 40s?
Well, I would say really well before the 40s.
I would say the 19th century, 20th century.
It's when they were dirt poor.
These were really, remember, petroleum is not a factor.
So there's no reason, you know, it's been millennia since spice roots mattered, right?
And petroleum is not a thing yet.
So what is making Arab societies wealthy?
Nothing.
They're not wealthy.
They're poor.
But, I mean, homogeneity is an issue also,
but the point is they had stability,
and you don't have to be poor to be violent,
or to be unhappy, or to misbehave socially a big issue in
america right now it's not about wealthy and poor it's about wealth inequality which has become a
big striking point for a lot of those people right well i think that's it right that's why
the point i was going to make is if you go back 200 years what is the saying uh you have better
a poor person has better dental care today than roeller did, you know, a hundred or whatever years ago.
Technological development.
So now poor people have air conditioning.
They have refrigeration.
They have clean running water.
And they have Cheetos.
They have Cheetos.
I mean, poor people.
America has fat homeless people.
Yeah, we have fat homeless people.
That's right.
Surviving, getting the calories you need to survive is not an issue uh no there's
plenty of that right in fact it's an issue that we get too many this country has too much too
many calories too many calories we got to get rid of some of those calories but so much of it is is
like look there are large social programs for people who are unable to pay for food who are
unable to pay we do take care in a lot of. We do take care in a lot of ways.
Our social programs do cover a lot of that,
but there's still this large call for discussions
about wealth inequality that leads to violence
at a lot of these, at least what it seems like to me, right?
Like a lot of what we're talking about,
it's telling you the millionaires and the billionaires.
Oh, sorry, it's just the billionaires now
because Bernie Sanders, he's a millionaire.
But yeah, that's the rallying cry.
We have this big story that's breaking today about crime.
A crime that must be addressed.
Breaking.
Jamal Bowman to plead guilty to pulling firearm in capital in exchange for charges dropped.
$1,000 fine in sweetheart deal.
We got him.
There he is.
Ladies and gentlemen.
We got him.
The insurrectionist has been apprehended. mean this was this was 9-11 all over
again yeah you know when when he went oh yeah it was worse it was almost as bad as january 6th
they're not gonna give you that sweetheart deal if you go you mean january 6th was almost as bad
as this yes yeah that's right you know because nobody pulled a fire alarm on january 6th
that's horrific but they were saying that september 11th was not as bad alarm on January 6th. Yeah, nobody did anything. That's horrific. But they were saying that September 11th
was not as bad as January 6th.
Remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, there's still people.
There's still people that say that.
Yeah.
Yeah, their argument is
they were subverting democracy.
There's people that believe that.
Well, Jamal Bowman did.
By staying within the velvet ropes.
Well, right.
This is it.
Jamal Bowman says,
I am responsible for activating a fire alarm.
I will be paying the fine issued.
Yeah, okay. Is it his first offense? Because I think that's fair. I will be paying the fine issued. Yeah, okay.
Is it his first offense?
Because I think that's fair.
Is it?
Absolutely.
Is it his first offense?
I don't know, Tim.
Soft on crime.
I don't know about that.
Let's face it.
What he did is literally an offense against democracy.
It actually is.
He was trying to stall the vote.
He was trying to prevent a vote from taking place in Congress.
And it's been treated like a misdemeanor false alarm.
You'd think he was just trespassing in the Capitol.
That would be...
I remember I was...
I would...
After January 6th, I would send people pictures of what happened with Kavanaugh, with people inside.
And people would be like, oh, that didn't happen?
No, no.
I'd say like, yes, when this happened, they're like, yes, look how like yes like when this happened they're like yes look how awful that is like yes look how awful that is
yeah you remember when amy schumer like occupied the supreme court and got arrested remember when
jane fonda every friday decided to get arrested outside the capitol for climate change and she
would like fly her jet in from la so she could sit on the steps of congress and get arrested
what a fool these people are but they don't care about the contradictions.
I mean, that's the thing about Democrats is they just don't seem to be either aware of
the contradictions or they just don't care.
They're aware.
No, I used to fall into that camp.
If you look at, I always reference the Instagram account Defiant Ls, which always posts the
people who contradict themselves, oftentimes just like a day later.
I used to be like, look, maybe these people are just dumb.
They're not dumb. They're evil.
They do not care because, look,
what they said first reached a certain amount of people.
When they post that second thing that contradicts what they said completely,
that reaches a whole other demographic of people.
Maybe 10, 20% of those people see the contradiction,
but they're so ideologically captured anyways it doesn't matter. Maybe you change, maybe 5% of those people see the contradiction but they're so ideologically captured anyways it doesn't matter maybe you change maybe five percent of those people see
it and say wow i i don't know if i fall in line with that uh that seems like a contradiction but
they don't care yeah they're not they're not worried about it it's like what is it it's like
hierarchy not uh not hypocrisy it doesn't matter to them yeah if you're if you're a hierarchy
hierarchy not hypocrisy what does that mean It means that the people who are committing these hypocrisies,
they are sort of blatantly doing it to show you that they're above it,
that it doesn't matter that they're being hypocritical.
That truth is malleable.
That reality is as they see it, not how you see it.
And power is all that matters.
And it's like there doesn't need to be a value system.
It's just this constant shifting ideological sand, and it doesn't need to, I mean, and it's like, there doesn't need to be a value system if you just, you know, it's just this constant shifting ideological sand.
And it doesn't matter where you stand.
It doesn't, you can't build anything on it.
So they just come up with, what's that?
The goalposts are moving anyways.
Yeah, the goalposts are moving anyways.
So they, it's like, oh, I scored.
Well, the goalposts are over there.
Not anymore.
Now they're here.
I've even heard more insane rationalizations that say, look, if they were to make those contradictions in their personal life
with friends and family that would be bad but
in the service of political agenda
it's okay because it's in service to
maintaining power and the only thing that
matters is maintaining power and if that's
not the definition of evil I don't know what that's
evil well there's a lot of there's a lot of things
that I think we could define as evil but
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Yeah, that and the evil of the crowds who get together and commit mass violence
just because they think it's fun or yeah just because they're they're spurred on remember i remember when i was a kid
and there would be always um there were always these stories about people being trampled in
india and it would be like or in saudi arabia or like at mecca or something and it would always be
just like you know somebody sneezed and the crowd went wild and 200 people got trampled to death.
Well, I always wondered, how does this happen? How do you all just start bugging out like that?
And think about that now in cities like New York City, where there's so many people congregated
in such small space. Like, that's just to me what it is like we've built these cities up so high now
that it's like, yes, a large majority of those people may be able to withstand the idea of falling victim to crowd mentality.
Right.
But you're putting yourself at risk every day by being around it.
Well, the thing about New York and crowd mentality is there's ways that you behave within the crowd of New York City that you would never behave somewhere else.
Like, you know, where I live now, people say hi to each other.
And in New York, if you said hi to everybody you passed,
you'd never get where you were going.
You know, you never make eye contact with anybody,
which is still something that I do.
It's like, I'm never going to make eye contact
with strangers because what if they're crazy
and then I'm in their line of sight
and the next thing you know,
you know, you're a target of the crazy person
just because you looked at them.
Or they're trying to fundraise for a nonprofit
and as soon as you lock eyes, they got that's terrible and like look and not just like if
you come from a small town you go to new york city and you do greet someone they don't say hello they
say who's this right yeah like why are you talking to me go away you have to get used to the different
different social setting one of the things that i always found so interesting about new york is how
people's private lives unfold in public.
You know, you'll see somebody just in tears on the subway.
People just walk by.
And like, no.
And, you know, and like there have been times when I've been literally like sobbing on the subway and an old woman will hand me a tissue and be like, are you OK?
So we have some breaking updates.
CNN is now reporting 16 people have died in Lewiston, Maine with 50 to 60 injuries.
They're investigating multiple active shooter events.
A suspect remains at large.
We are encouraging all businesses to lock down or close while we investigate.
Maine State Police said they're responding to an active shooter situation on Facebook.
Please lock your doors.
So the concern is it looks like it's multiple areas.
This could be one person who's moved to different areas,
but some people are concerned it's more than one person.
From what I've read in the chat, at least,
I know the report said there was Middle Eastern men.
But I don't know if that's...
No, there's a photo that was released
that could be a person of Middle Eastern descent.
I encourage people just to look for these official news sources
and then make a determination for yourself. Don't make assumptions about what you think a person looks like. descent. I encourage people to just to look for these official news sources and then make a determination for yourself.
Don't make assumptions
about what you think a person looks like.
Look at the actual photo.
But I'm concerned that there are fake accounts
spreading this specifically
to fan the flames of a conflict.
That could be it.
Right, so watch out for that.
Hannah Nightingale,
who's working on this story right now
at Postmillennial,
is from Maine. And she's saying, well, she's's working on this story right now at Post Millennial is from Maine
and she's saying
well that's
she's normally not on this late
but if it's a Maine thing
she'll come check it out
but
I was just there
yeah
she said that there's never been
a mass shooting like this
in Maine before
there's not a lot of people
yeah
it's like the biggest city in Maine
is what like 40,000 people
yeah it's little
it's a little
I mean it's a big state
with not that many people in it
as you just said
that's the whole thing.
Well, I don't know, man.
If you're in Maine, it's safe.
Yeah, right?
But if Maine isn't safe.
But what are the gun laws in Maine?
That's why we're in West Virginia, right?
West Virginia has its issues too,
but at least in West Virginia you can have guns.
Right.
Can you have guns?
The Maine passed a reckless reckless permitless carry law,
says Giffords.
I'm just reading it.
That's what Giffords says, yeah.
That's why I pointed out initially
that I'm reading this from the internet.
Permitless carry law 2015
that allows residents to carry concealed
without a permit or background check.
That's 2A.
So, and in 2021,
May had the 14th lowest gun death rate.
Wow.
Interesting.
So that's actually pretty interesting.
What's Giffords?
I don't even know what that is.
That's Gabby Giffords.
Oh, that's Gabby Giffords.
Oh, right, because she was shot in the head.
So, you know, she's worried about gun laws.
Makes sense once you're shot in the head, but.
Well, she's not.
I think she's evil.
Yeah.
Because she has armed security guards and gets government protection and then tries to deny it for everyone. Well, she's not. I think she's evil. Yeah. Because she has armed security guards
and gets government protection
and then tries to deny it for everyone else.
So she has guns.
They're just being held by other people.
What she's actually saying is
only we may have cake.
Right.
Hierarchy, not hypocrisy.
Do the people who protect California politicians
have to adhere to California gun laws
as far as like magazine size?
Usually they...
This is how it works right
so like in venezuela during the protests if you're if you're on the side of the government you're
getting a full belly every night and that's why they do it everyone else is starving and they tell
you you want to be starving with them and protesting go ahead and do it you want a full
belly you take the gun you stop them from protesting that when when you like these people
who uh protect politicians have restrictions often they
have to like they're allowed to carry their gun only while they're on duty but no 10 round mags
they're allowed to have a gun at their house or something like that in a lot of states that make
it very difficult to do yeah oh and they probably get special benefits like that for sure yeah
illinois which was always super restrictive uh but if you're if you're protecting the politicians
you're good then you're all right to do it yeah if. But if you're protecting the politicians, you're good.
Then you're all right to do it.
Yeah, if you're a cop, you're good.
If you're part of the machine and protecting the people in power, you're good.
Everyone else...
It's all about power.
It's always all about just maintaining power.
Of course.
You know?
Well, yeah.
For whatever reason.
For whatever reason.
I mean, I just don't understand the motivations of these people.
I wouldn't want that kind of power.
It's amazing how it just always kind of plots out that way.
But not everybody has this
mental state. Ambition,
drive. No, that's absolutely not
it. I have plenty
of ambition, but I'm not interested in maintaining
power. Ambition
doesn't mean killing people for personal
gain or causing mass suffering.
No, no, no.
There are people out
there that are just, they revel in causing suffering of others.
Yeah, totally.
Hence why there's probably a mass shooting right now.
That's another evil thing.
Wanting to cause harm, wanting to hurt people.
Like pulling a fire alarm to stop Congress.
Right.
That's horrifying.
Evil.
How does he live with himself?
I think he does just fine.
So they're going to drop the charges.
I think he should go to jail.
I think he should definitely go to jail.
He should get community service enough to serve it with Jenna Ellis together.
That's what they should do.
Make a reality show about it.
Let's talk about evil.
Let's do it.
From the Daily Mail.
Las Vegas teens Jesus Ayala and Yasmir Keyes laugh in court and give the finger to the family of
police chief they filmed themselves mowing
down and killing. You remember this video?
It's a horror. That went viral. They're laughing
in their car filming it and they ram
this guy from behind and they're in court and they're
laughing about it. Dude, I'm sorry.
Evil exists. They're just messing around.
They just don't care about anything. All the way outside
of the club. As they were being walked
out, basically still laughing. Well, they were laughing just sitting there i found yeah i i
don't know how you i mean i think it's important to be able to understand how people get to this
point and how this happens but i also think that we've and i think evil of course has always
existed i mean you could go back to genesis like it's right there you know um killing your brother for jealous
because you're jealous or whatever that happens um but i i do think that we have neglected
our you know spiritual life in this country to a certain extent i think that it's not a good
thing that we have elevated atheism and that we have expected the, you know, Judeo-Christian moral codes as
exemplified by, you know, primarily the Ten Commandments and the Gospel according to Matthew,
you know, the Beatitudes there. I think it's a problem that we have expected those things to
survive in public life. We've expected the civil religion that maintains public society to survive while removing God
entirely and while removing, you know, the concept of a higher power that will hold you accountable
and that will also not just hold you accountable, that will hold you accountable
and provide you light and love, you know, and communion with your fellow man. I think that
that's a big problem. Like how do you,
this is a conversation I've been having with my son
a great deal lately,
who's studying for his confirmation next year
and definitely says to me things like,
I don't know if I believe in God.
And I'm like, okay, enjoy your CCD class
because we're teaching you this anyway.
And I had a very long period of toying with atheism myself
until the void was just-
Too much?
The void was too much.
I could no longer look into that void
and step out into the world and look at the sun
and be happy about it.
But I think that as we have removed God
and as we have removed spiritual feelings, we have removed spiritual feelings we have uh
eradicated them to the point where it's hard to find them like how are the kids supposed to find
god if they never even learn the word i was talking to and then i'm gonna let you talk i
just have one more thing i think i was um i was at tp usa, not this past June, but the previous June.
And I was on a panel with Carol Markowitz and Emma Jo Morris.
And it was really fascinating.
And we were talking about how to maintain your religious traditions and your faith while you're living in essentially New York City where we lived.
And a young woman got up and she said, most of us in my generation don't know anything. We know we don't know from God. We don't understand any of this. Instead, when we have a spiritual crisis, we think it's psychological and we go get therapy and we just end up with drugs. So how do you how do you find God if God has been eradicated? And how do you maintain a moral center if there is nothing to ground it?
Do you find that religion is, in the time that you've been alive, have you found the decrease in religion here in America to be one of the main calling cards for why society seems to be falling the way it has?
Yes.
Yeah. cards for why society seems to be falling the way it has yes yeah um i can remember when there was and i think let me make a very important point everyone sort of agreed
on the basics of ethical behavior.
But the feeling was, well, we don't have to be so doctrinaire about religious faith.
We can, you know, you don't even really need to be religious
to acknowledge that killing is bad and, you know,
stealing is bad.
But it turns out that that's not true. it turns out that that's not true.
It turns out that that's not true at all because we see widespread justification of killing and we see stealing.
Both of those are both highly justified now in society.
Right, right. And this is something that I discussed, and in fact I discussed it at length with our mutual friend on the Shamercast.
Shamcast.
After we met here when you were pretending to be sick so you could skip work.
It is extremely difficult because
he's an Orthodox
Catholic and I'm an Orthodox Jew.
And we were talking about
you know, we
might all agree
as a completely objective
sociological observation that societies
that do have
religious faith are more
stable and
there might be aspects of it.
But what do you do if people have lost their faith?
As an entire society.
Inquisition.
Well, you know, that didn't really necessarily work.
I mean, you know.
Oh, I was kidding.
No, you know, if, I was kidding. No,
you know, if it worked, then we would have to,
you know, but actually, remember, the main
issue with the Inquisition was
identifying Jews
who pretended to be converts.
But
you can't even really talk about
orthodoxy anymore. In other words,
we're in a post-orthodoxy
world unless you live in a subculture, as I do, in which we have created our own governing mores.
And it's not perfect and it's not entirely always consistent.
But because of the extent of liberty that Americans are permitted and most people in the West are permitted,
we can do that.
And we have our own internal governance systems and our own rabbinical courts for civil disputes.
And again, everything doesn't click the way it necessarily ought to.
But what can you do to an entire society that doesn't even have that feeling.
Because Libby, you identified,
you'd reached a point in your life when you said this,
I'm going to paraphrase you now,
this can't be what it's all about.
This, we're just an arbitrary fart of the universe.
There must be meaning. There must be the universe. There must be meaning.
There must be a reason and there must be truth.
There must be somewhere that love comes from
was also what I was thinking.
And you still had resonating in you a family tradition
of where to look to recover the methodology and the language
and the thinking of what the answers to these questions were.
So my friend Yoram Hazony writes in his books about conservatism
and national conservatism,
it is a legitimate thing for people to look to the faith of their ancestors.
People think, well, how do you know Judaism?
If you would have been born in...
I wasn't.
I wasn't.
I just know that the people that I respect
and the tradition and the culture that I look to my ancestors toward,
and I see people who were older than I,
they are a product of a tradition
that is entitled to a presumption of validity for me
because I am myself also a product of that.
That's very hard for Americans to get onto
because Americans have this admirable quality
of questioning everything and being skeptical
and show me state, I'm from Missouri, you know.
And it turns out that those are good exercises
to participate in, but if you don't have a base at which you say, this is never permitted.
And also, you know, there's such a lack of understanding of basic theological concepts that have been treated at great length for thousands of years.
And people go to college and they think they've got these really clever answers to great theological
questions, and they don't.
And they think it's really a good question.
So you think God really cares whether you eat bacon or not?
I do. And you know why? Because God has the
capacity to care about everything at once. He's not limited like you are by trying to
multitask. He's God. And it would be great if, you know, there probably are people who do this, if people could get a basic theological education
and just understand if they want to be skeptics what they're being skeptical of.
It's a real hard task.
What are the ramifications for defying God in Judaism?
In traditional Judaism, there are several kinds of punishments
that are discussed in the Torah one is that if you you can be punished by an
earthly court for knowingly violating God's law. Now, you can also, in the time of the temple,
you know, the great temple of Palestine in Jerusalem,
that you would bring a sacrifice.
You'd have to bring a sacrifice because, you know,
that's laid out in the Bible as, how you atone for a sin.
You have to go through the trouble of buying an animal
and having it, you know,
and it doesn't have to be a big old cow.
It could be a bird.
It could even just be meal if you're a poor person.
You need to say to God,
I'm making a donation.
I am paying a penalty.
And I want...
What if you don't?
If you don't, then...
Your question really is...
More spiritual, not physical.
Right.
So you can be punished in this world,
which is considered to be a good scenario.
In other words,
you would rather be punished in this world by afflictions
than have your punishment await you in the next world because there's no limitation to what suffering you can experience in the next world.
But is this the same notion of heaven and hell?
Essentially. Essentially it is.
I mean, there are, you know, and there's a lot of, I will tell you that the traditional Jewish thinking on this
as reflected in the Talmud,
and this is going to get your live chat going
because they love words like that,
the rabbis are absolutely comfortable with the idea
of reward and punishment in this world, in the next world, we also have the concept that the dead will come back to life in the time of the Messiah.
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You can be deprived of the opportunity
to be resurrected if
you are guilty
of certain kinds of sins.
Which would be, you know, that would be pretty bad.
But then there's, you know, there's a soul.
The soul is not the body.
The soul is not you.
It's not some, you know, it's not some magnetic force or something.
It is a godly essence that is placed within you.
And you can suffer in this world.
You can suffer in the next world.
Very, you know, much more complex stuff than people would think.
And it is reflected in Christianity.
It's reflected certainly in the Catholic Church.
It was founded by rabbinical students, and they knew what they were talking about.
We're going to go to Super Chats.
So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com
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half an hour you don't want to miss it we're gonna be taking your calls from uh from our members
but let's uh let's read you got grofty with the first super chat saying buck buck and that's it
joshua french says not first.
You were correct.
You are not first.
Nope.
I'm not your guy.
Friend says not today, Clint.
But unfortunately, you are third.
All right.
Shane H.
Wilder says I feel good about Mike Johnson.
His report card seems pretty outstanding that and if Adam Schiff hates him, he must be doing
something.
I also love that people were like people on Twitter were like sharing like Mike Johnson
super cuts. I'm like, did you Twitter were like sharing like Mike Johnson super cuts.
I'm like, did you guys just have these ready to go?
Who's making like these like...
Probably Ed.
To be fair, there are people,
I mean, I will whip out a GIF
in 90 seconds.
If the occasion strikes me,
if you have the software on the phone
and you know how to do it
and you would rather play hooky and you know and stay up late to finish your homework as i would
guys at work his boss is like gotta get the work done he's like i'm making this mike johnson super
cut can you hold on he's like who the hell is mike johnson leroy hall says can you shout out
my wife trina halls give send go please she's sick with systemic scleroderma that is advancing fast.
Thank you and God bless y'all.
Well, shout out.
I hope things work out for you.
Does it say what was the name?
Trina Hall.
Trina Hall.
T-R-I-N-A.
Give, Send, Go.
The Emperor's Champions is not first, I know, but I highly recommend the book What Justice Demands by Ilan Jerno.
It's a well-researched in-depth
objective look into the israel palestine conflicts i can't recommend it more i read a decent bit
about uh the history of the region today the problem is you read this and then you ask someone
who's pro-palestine and say that's all fake that never happened and you're like i don't tell you
man you know there you go andrew russ says i'm still
salty tim didn't like the latest dune it's game of thrones in space it is game of thrones in space
that takes four hours of dead air to get to the point look i'll be like we went that night and
and we left early right we walked out of we walked out of here like i i i would have been fine saying
i ended up watching it later on HBO Max.
And I didn't hate it as much as you did,
but I don't mind the slow burn as much.
And Denis Villeneuve is one of my favorite directors working.
Slow burn.
It's very slow burn.
And then there's no ending.
It's like, well, we're going to be making another one.
I understand that I've got the bias
because the director is one of those directors
whose work is one that I really like.
But also just the fact
that that's the project he'd wanted
to direct like his whole life
so I had a little bit of bias there but I
am sad that they delayed part two
because I actually do hope to see it in the theaters
and supposedly it will be at least a little bit shorter
well it works at home you just fast forward
you just skip skip skip skip skip skip
I just I watch a movie like that
that's shot that beautifully and I can seeing it on the big screen is just there are a handful of shows
where it's like i'm glad it's on netflix because it starts off really good and then as it gets
weaker i just i find myself skipping netflix is the worst for that like they they made this movie
this benicio del toro movie called reptile that i just watched and it was what is it about? It's this awful crime
drama where it's like he's
investigating the murder of
the girlfriend
of some type of real estate
developer played by Justin
played by Justin
Timberlake and it's just it's even
slower than what you described as Dune
but like almost comic
yes oh he's not
he acts too have you tried watching bodies no you heard it right yeah i couldn't do it i'm hearing
like oh this new show on netflix is so good and then i'm like play and then within five minutes
i was like well that was dumb and turned it off netflix has got a very low hit rate lately other
than the the bigger ones lately the look they don't miss on everything, but like,
yeah,
like when they try to do the,
any of the stuff they've done
with their spy thrillers,
the one with Gal Gadot,
really,
really bad.
The ones they did with the Russo brothers,
really,
really bad.
Not good.
Ben Hancock says,
question for Tim,
do you read all of the super chats after the show
or only the ones that you read live?
If your question is,
after we close out the show,
do I sit there and then go through every single super if your question is after we close out the show do
i sit there and then go through every single super chat the answer is no once the show wraps up we do
the members only show and then i go to sleep we however on pop culture crisis do read all the
super chats and if it keeps us late it keeps us late and uh yeah it's gonna go later and later
no it does it does his audience they also do a thing where like, if I look like I want to go, they start super chatting
more just to keep me there.
Don't they keep you there?
Like every super chat keeps you there another 10 minutes.
Depends on how much like, but the problem is by the end, I'm like, so out of it.
I'm like starting to slur my words because my blood sugar has absolutely collapsed and
I need to eat.
So they get a huge kick out of watching me suffer.
It's fantastic.
Oh, wow.
So there is evil in the world. There is evil in the world. And it's in your super watching me suffer. It's fantastic. Oh, wow. So there is evil in the world.
There is evil in the world.
And it's in your super chat.
Exactly.
It's fantastic.
And we love them for it.
All right.
What do we have?
The text vet says,
Johnson said in his acceptance speech,
the first thing to be done is to give money to Israel.
Yeah, that's what I saw.
I thought that was what happened.
And so it's a question of-
I thought he said to support Israel.
Did he actually say to give money to Israel?
Well, he probably said to provide support for Israel,
but it's the same thing, right?
I suppose.
I guess it might be a euphemism for giving money, yeah.
It's a bigger question about
are we going to be funding escalation of war?
Are we going to be providing support in the form of
like iron dome batteries which we've already done so i think the bigger concern is are we driving
ourselves towards world war three or greater regional conflict at you know how about we
balance the budget how about we secure our southern border i like and all foreign sure
yeah and there's that meme there's a meme where it's uh it's the the
woe jack who's like all depressed looking and it's janet yellen saying we can afford two wars and
he's like i just want health care it's the yeah or it's it's like it's like uh ukraine uh israel
and then and then the american people are just underwater in the meme yeah yep all right where
are we at jack the ripper says american jewish people
utilize that second amendment buy arms and munitions and train be safe get out of those
garbage cities that's what i was saying too like i love it when you know the left is like uh there's
the meme of the white guy and the black guy and and it's the it's like the chad wojaks and he's
like nice gun the black guy's like nice gun you want to go shoot and they're like yeah and then they're both shooting together and, nice gun. The black guy's like, nice gun. You want to go shoot?
And they're like, yeah.
And then they're both shooting together
and then the leftist is like,
no, you're supposed to be racist.
They were just shooting guns together.
We went to the shooting range
and there was like people
of all different backgrounds there.
There was a couple of black guys
and there were some Middle Eastern guys
and there was a bunch of white guys
and everyone was laughing,
had a good time
and pointing at the guns
and high-fiving
and I'm like,
see, this is diversity, right?
Joining together in great enjoyment of firing guns
and they brought in a fully automatic one
and people started like, it was so much fun.
Shot on Saturday, first time in five years.
Horror.
No, horror.
Just like they say, you don't use it, you lose it.
Yeah.
I am not particularly good with handguns.
I think the best I was able to do at like 30 yards was two out of seven. Yeah. I am not particularly good with handguns. I think the best I was able to do at like 30 yards was two out of seven.
Yeah.
But with the various long guns, like my accuracy was very, very good.
But admittedly, very easy to, you know, relative to like handguns harder.
Like we were shooting, I was like, I don't remember the nine millimeter having this much kick.
Depends on the one you're using, I guess.
Yeah.
All right.
Where are we at?
A Green Clover says,
Biggest issue facing Europe is the ammunition shortage.
In conventional warfare, UK has one week.
France has four days.
And Germany has two days.
Wow.
Okay, but... Meanwhile, Russia has been building its reserves of ammo
and military industrial complex.
Interesting.
Camgirl Asuna says,
Libby, one ship was damaged
by an Iranian mine once
in the 80s
and was later repaired.
In response,
Reagan sent a task force
that ended up sinking
or disabling half of Iran's navy
in a mere eight hours.
Got it.
Woo.
Good times.
That's what I call
nice disproportionate attacks.
Stay away from the U.S.
Yes. Thrust McTrunkpunch says, what i call nice disproportionate attacks stay the surge stay away from the u.s yes thrust mctrunk punch says on the iran dinghy in response to the dinghy being sunk our navy
destroyed half of iran in eight hours iran's in eight hours they claimed it was proportional
response i think that's a disproportionate response but doesn't it make sense to have
a disproportionate response because doesn't it like keep winning people away from you like if you like no the
whole proportionality thing is complete like stay the hell away donald trump was always about like
hey if you do that i'm going to nuke you and it's like that is a disproportionate response and
it's a little crazy but listen the thing about trump is he's a
little crazy that's what i'm saying that keeps us good and safe because you know what you don't do
you don't mess with the crazy guy on the corner you don't look him in the eye you just stay away
and you hope you don't get shot that's what i like about trump elegant news says russia started
modernizing its nuclear and conventional weapons starting in 2000 they have completed 89 by 2020 don't underestimate the bear
there you go oh well i just want to keep the country safe and the border closed and
then we're good mr nobody says tim did you have world war three on your october surprise bingo
card mean tweets were better than this in every conceivable way yeah steve mcgee
says nazi schweinhund or in german nazi says what luke says what schweinhund means pig dog
yes they were they were calling him a nazi pig it means like bastard yep they were insulting him
for no reason literally no reason luke is walking down the street and some guy just points at him
and called him a nazi did they recognize him nope i have no i i well it's possible but unlikely considering random people
just started hitting him yeah so uh there something did happen where there was a photo of uh well i i
don't want to say too much because it involves other people's private security so i'll keep it
i'll i'll keep the general story out of it. But the general idea that Luke published was that he was walking with a German journalist
and this guy, Max, and then someone just yelled Nazi, Nazi Schweinhund.
And so it's the craziest thing.
I'm like, why did that guy started hitting you?
I have no idea.
Guy just really hated wearechanged.org.
But think about what this means.
If you go to, if, if, if, if like, let's say a right-wing person dresses up like Antifa
goes to an antifa rally
and then just starts pointing at a random guy saying that's that's john smith like literally
adeleptus rally make up a name chad firthington but that's chad firthington dude he's a nazi
i don't know if that would work at antifa because i think that they're actually extremely well
organized it'll work do you think so absolutely i think they're well organized too
but i also you're not gonna pull it off in a group of seven antifa in a group of 500 they'll just
start mercilessly beating whoever gets pointed at maybe you're right they'll what'll happen is
they'll be like hey bro who are you what's going on man who are you like someone will walk up after
hearing that and then start pushing the guy and being like show me your phone show me like and
the guy's gonna be like dude i'm not a nazi but like he's a nut and then they just it's just it's an avalanche it's i've like like i
mentioned watch the videos out of san jose from like 2015-16 of people just chasing each other
through the streets i watched them beat elderly people they'll just that's just the way it goes
so nuts they'd all like at occupy walsh or like every march something like that happened
someone would just run up and hit somebody because someone accused them.
I remember when that was happening.
I did not go to Occupy.
Yeah.
I was home with my kid.
For a couple of years, I had no idea what was going on because I just had a small child.
It was lovely.
Someone want to pull up the latest data on what's going on in Lewiston?
So it's 22 and they have, Hannah's covering this.
Confirmed dead, right?
Yeah, 22 confirmed dead and they released a picture of the car.
Is it a maroon SUV?
No, it's a little hatchback.
Okay.
And that's the thing.
Because that's what I was saying.
The people who are saying maroon SUV in Middle Eastern may have been fake.
And if they're saying it's not that, then likely someone was putting out fake information.
Right.
But I will say, you know, the description of the man is have you seen the photographs
yeah i just saw those now swarthy is that the description uh not i wouldn't describe the person
as white they appear on the surveillance photos to be potentially of middle eastern hispanic
you know like slightly darker skin but if he's hispanic that would be white adjacent yes he
can be a Spanish.
I'm just trying to describe
a guy who's a mass shooter.
I'm not trying to make a joke.
You know, like,
I'm just saying like,
in terms of politics,
like,
might be Middle Eastern.
There's a press conference
coming up.
Right.
They said that the police,
I think,
Chief of Police.
But they have not caught the guy.
No, I don't think so.
I think he's still at large.
JJ Rode, road sorry there's a
thing on the screen says how long has tim been police has released the suspect's name apparently
whoa and what is it robert card robert card yeah well how are we supposed to figure out what
ethnicity that is now to i don't know really everyone everyone's trying to generate you know
everyone wants to get their their politics and i mean i I don't, it's unconfirmed.
JJ Wood says, Tim.
No, police have released that name.
Sorry.
They did not police release that name?
Police have released the suspect's name as Robert Card.
What's the source on that?
Raw Alerts.
But I don't know if that's accurate.
Right.
Yeah, because it's Raw Alerts.
Raw Alerts may be accurate.
We use them periodically for some things.
A press conference.
Yeah, I tend to grab them and then go digging for what
they said yeah and i and i find them like that but ross alerts i find to actually line up properly
with with other official news reporting it's it's hard to know who to trust i mean no disrespect to
ross alerts i'm not familiar uh too much uh jj wrote says tim pool crowder shapiro all going gray uh when did we all get so old
uh gradually and then suddenly i have never an incremental evil is what it is aging and the
only thing is the alternative i thought it was people don't know this about ron but he's always
looked this way even when he was 15 even when i didn't look this way i looked well i've heard
like with aging a lot of it's like it's like you feel like you don't age like year by year it's like you look the same for like five years and then
one year you age a bunch all at once yeah and and people are asking about me i am part asian
which means there will come a period where one day i'll just be hunched over and small
that's the meme that's the meme well you know what's amazing is i'm 60 years old and i thought
by this age i would already sound like this well that's what happens you know when my brother was my brother is uh
is korean and um when he was like 16 i used to uh is my dad listening i used to take him
i used to take him to clubs in new york and take him out with my friends and my friends would be
like oh which one of you is the older sibling?
And I'd be like, oh, my God, I'm literally 12 years older than my brother.
And he'd be like, I'm Asian, so you don't know.
And then he'd go hit on my friends.
And I'd be like, oh, my God.
My friends are 25, and here's my little brother.
And he's like, he had game.
It was impressive.
Well, when I was a freshman, I had a beard.
I've always been robust in that way.
And if you're 18 and you can grow a full beard,
you grow a full beard.
And I remember I was moving into my dorm
and some upperclassman was in there and says,
can you believe all the freshmen moving in here?
And I was like, in here you know yeah you know
all right we got a bunch of people uh we got a bunch of people posting about uh lewiston main
situation developing a lot of super chats thanks for uh posting will says a swastika was drawn
inside bates college in lewiston lewiston bathroom a
few days ago graduated from bates a few years ago leftist haven crazy administration and faculty
none of this surprises me yeah how does the media end up covering it then does it get pivoted to
talk about gun crime you know here's the thing normally i'd say if this guy turns out to in any
other circumstance if this guy was a leftist who was acting on this, it'd be covered up in moments.
Like we saw with, was it Covington Catholic?
And was it?
You mean Nashville?
Nashville.
Nashville.
I don't think it was Covington.
No, Covington was the.
Right.
I totally confused those.
Yeah, that was the kid.
I forget the name of the Nashville school.
You want to look up the Nashville one?
Yeah, I will look it up. But considering, if it turns out this was a leftist motivated by Israel-Palestine,
they absolutely will release the news on this.
Covenant.
Covenant.
Covenant.
That's why you thought, yeah, Covington, because it's very similar.
If it turns out this guy is motivated by the Israel-Palestine conflict,
and it was pro-Palestine, they will release this in two seconds.
I am not suggesting
that it is i am not saying that there's evidence to suggest it is i'm saying if in the you know
whatever astronomical chance it was they would be like you see we're at risk we have to go to war
blah blah blah yeah we have to go with to war with maine with iran they'd say iran did it these are
the iranian militias that That proves it. There you go.
Well, there is a press conference coming up.
When?
Let's see.
I'm Beth, Beth Bish, who's doing social media right now.
It's like sharing stuff.
Well, we'll read some more superchats.
Yeah.
Gaming Entity says veterans who are younger, female, and LGBTQ are reporting more mental health issues.
Study finds.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Cheris says, dare you to have Norman Finkelstein or Abby Martin?
I don't understand why you would say dare you to have.
I don't I don't I don't get that.
Like as if we don't constantly invite people on the left to come on the show.
We had Max Blumenthal on the show last week.
It was a fantastic conversation.
And there's literally five shows a week.
Plus the Culture War.
There's a lot of show to have people on. We have a big Culture War this Friday.
Yeah.
Yeah, very big.
Who's on it?
I guess we should just say it.
It's Wednesday.
Cenk Uygur.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, coming on Culture War war just me and him we're
gonna talk it's gonna be great you can ask him about the dogs but the dogs yeah the dogs wasn't
he the dogs the dogs wasn't he the one talking about how it should be okay to have sex with your
dog with your horse i am not okay uh if he brings it up they all have i i would like to have a
situation where he brings it up he's like and by the way i want to get this out there right now
options are opening up they might not have been available for him he's driving
this is exactly what i'm trying to avoid if we're going to have a real conversation where he's going
to address the stance he takes on his show the politics of today what he what he thinks this country should or shouldn't be doing, and the fact that he has a massive audience to do it.
We should have a real conversation, not bring up some stupid comment he made 10 years ago as like a WWE, haha, I gotcha.
So definitely not.
I'm glad that he's coming.
We've invited him on the show numerous times for a long time, and he's agreed to come on, and it's going to be awesome.
And I guess someone said he announced it on his show but no one was really talking about it and you
know whatever we have a poster you know me and him and we're just gonna we're gonna talk and i
wonder how long the conversation will go but i imagine it'll go for a while i've known the guy
for a long time and uh should be interesting that'll be cool but yeah in terms of like
abby martin or anybody, the answer is yes.
Well, whatever.
That's kind of the point.
We have this culture war show and shout out to Tenet Media.
The culture war is moving over to Tenet,
which has a bunch of really awesome people involved.
I don't know if you guys saw the announcement.
There's Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, Lauren Southern,
Tyler Hansen. Is it Southern, Tyler Hansen.
Is it Tyler?
Taylor Hansen.
Why did I say Tyler?
I'm like, I missed a letter in his name for whatever reason.
But yeah, really, really cool stuff.
I can elaborate more on later, but the culture war is moving to Tenet.
And there's some good reasons for it.
Maybe we'll elaborate a little bit more on the members only, but we'll read some more super chats from now.
Do you know when that press conference is?
It's up right now.
It's not the press conference yet.
It's basically people talking while they wait for the press conference.
So maybe we'll have that in the members segment.
We'll try to get up as soon as we can.
But yeah, really cool stuff.
Friday is going to be really, really awesome.
I'm glad to have Cenk.
And I hope we have a calm, legitimate conversation.
When we had Brianna Wu on,
I thought that it was very very
calm and interesting there were a lot of people like how could you be so patient or whatever and
i was like i thought brianna was uh was very polite and then afterward uh brianna played poker
with us and enjoyed sushi it was very it was good it's excellent i hope that uh jenks sticks around
and hangs out with everybody and i'm sure he's actually got people who uh at some point were
big fans and maybe in recent time with the
shift in politics don't really watch him anymore but i think it'll be a very good conversation
i think he's gonna find that a lot of people here completely agree with him on like
60 of his positions and then the more tribal culture war stuff is where people where he
loses a lot of people and in terms of our crew because i imagine he's gonna say something like
we shouldn't be going to war and blah blah we're like yes really yes that's absolutely right yeah let's unify on those
grounds that's why it was great when max came because it's like hey look we may disagree on
all these things but if we agree on like stopping there's these foreign invasions and this this war
stuff then that's what we should focus on and then worry about the other stuff and i'm like i agree
let's win where we we all agree we want to win Greg Kerr says
Tim we are still raising funds for the Cumberland
skate park can we get you guys
up there when we finally get it open next year
yes who's building it
we should talk about
who's building it
we're big fans of the Spahn
Ranch guys so
you know where's Cumberland
Cumberland is like well like an hour west of here okay
it's a little oh it's an awesome little town yeah it's in it's in the the panhandle of maryland or
whatever they call it it's a cool place i went to a coin shop there and that's where i got
the the coin from uh for seamus that was the same currency used by saint casper
yeah we want to believe it was one of the ones used by St. Casper. We don't know that.
It's like a little ancient coin from...
And you would expect to find that in Awesome Town in Maryland.
You know...
You never know.
If God wants it to be there, it could be there.
The collector's shop actually had a bunch of really cool stuff.
I mean, they had Confederate money.
We have that banknote right there.
Yeah, I was thinking about that.
Yeah, it's a pre-Fed reserve banknote that comes from that same that same
collector shop and we got confederate money and we got old banknotes cool place and i got i got a
silver coin from ancient greece that's like rated at like 9.5 or whatever it is in that's crazy
they they didn't they had very little precision so So it's like an oddly shaped metal disc they stamp.
Yeah.
Oh, it's in the closet.
I'll pull it out in a second.
We will grab it and we'll show it off.
Super cool stuff.
All right.
So we got a lot of super chats just talking about Maine, which that press conference is
coming up.
We'll talk about it.
All right.
Ramo says, I hear a lot about Julian Assange, but have you forgotten about Schaefer Cox?
If you haven't heard of him, please look into him.
He's been in a black site prison for decades now for fighting for what's
right i'm not familiar you know i i i i did this thing earlier where i talked about jen alice and
julian assange andrew clavin said that you know he thinks it's funny i'm paraphrasing that all
these people think they would be great heroes and stand up against injustice because jenna ellis took this plea agreement and my response is just like i feel like it's a cop out
you know which is a cop out what andrew claven is saying jenna ella like oh these little boys
he said little boys in capes think they're fighting monsters something like that because
jenna ellis took this plea agreement and all these people are talking big like they'd be some
great martyrs and i'm like yeah maybe half of I'm like, yeah, maybe half of them would. I don't know.
Maybe half of them wouldn't.
Maybe some people are talking big game.
But then I said, look at Julian Assange, who's like they're effectively executing
in solitary confinement for 10 years with fake charges.
And now everything's going on because he refuses to compromise WikiLeaks.
And so if you tell me who am I going to look up to and who am i going to criticize this one's
really obvious jenna ellis was either lying the whole time in support of trump which she admits
to so maybe that's the case or she was doing her constitutional duty in defending her client and
and a candidate in a challenge to the election which they they they believe was was a constitutional
challenge in which case it's her duty to do and she decided to betray her duty in this country so pick one julian assange will not
give up his sources no matter what even though they've basically they're slow slow they're it's
a slow roll execution of them so i'll i'll i'll leave it there and we'll uh we'll grab a couple more okay what do we got
well no just people commenting on
Lewiston main a lot of super chats
the story's getting wilder as minutes go by
is there any more developments
people are I mean there's a lot of speculation
I don't know if I want to say anything
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