Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #890 GOP Elects Mike Johnson As Speaker of The House Ending Stalemate w/Ron Coleman

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

Tim, Brett (PCC), Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial), & Serge join Ron Coleman to discuss Mike Johnson being elected speaker, Jewish students being evacuated from event after being targeted by pro-Pal...estine mob, NYPD warning Jewish residents to avoid the Crown Heights area, & the collapse of San Francisco. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:09 OK, it's big news. People are asking, who is this guy and what's he going to do? And videos are popping up, both of him being epically based, but also mercilessly cringe. Some people are arguing that he's woke. Some people are arguing that he is a an ardent Trump ally who defended him during impeachment. And those things are true. But then there's like a recording of him saying things about, you know, critical race theory type stuff and people question him. But I think based on what Matt Gaetz said recently on Steve Bennett's war room, there's really, really great stuff happening.
Starting point is 00:01:37 And this is a tremendous victory. The long story short of it is that Kevin McCarthy was secretly sabotaging things and removing him from power was the right move. So either way, seeing pushback in any degree, I think is a step forward. Now we need to see action. So we'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other stories, a crazy video coming out of New York, Jewish students at Cooper Union locked in a room as far leftists bang on the doors. They were locked in there for their own safety and escorted out through tunnels in fear for their safety safety and escorted out through tunnels in fear for their safety. And there's a bunch of stories about this. There's a report that a police source has warned Jewish people in New York to avoid certain areas
Starting point is 00:02:13 because of the pro-Palestine marches. I just think it's getting out of control. It's crazy. A lot of people, you know, they get superheated about this, but we absolutely talked about this last time when you had that wave of violent crime against Hasidic Jews in New York and Orthodox Jews were being beaten and attacked. This is this is the complaint about the far left. They this is this is what they defend and this is what they do. So we'll talk about all that before we get started. My friends, this show is brought to you by cast brew coffee. If you want the best cup of coffee you've ever had, you go to cast brew dot com and
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Starting point is 00:03:56 Not really. No. You know, I'm a lawyer. But who doesn't know I'm a lawyer? The only reason you ever use Esquire is either as a sort of semi-formal honorific to someone else. You know, it's like doctor, but for lawyers. Like doctor, but for lawyers. Yeah. But when you're Ron Coleman, the lawyer.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You're Ron Coleman. What do you need? Listen, I get out at the Quick Check in Passaic, and the guy with the paper cup outside collecting, as we say, is a lawyer. And he's not even on social media. He just knew. He just knew.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Some guys you can just tell. So is that your introduction? Do you have anything else you want to add to your line of work or storied career? I'm Ron Coleman. Well, all right. We also have Brett Dasavik hanging out. What's going on, guys? Yes, I am Brett Dasavik.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. This is New Pacific. You should come hang out with us. Also, is there like a lawyer walk? Like a special walk? Like a gate? Yeah, is there like a walk that they... You know, there might have once been been one but we're in a time
Starting point is 00:05:05 now when all you know all the admissions standards all the any anyone can be a lawyer you know so i i don't think so i thought maybe the the homeless guy knew that they're by the walk that there was a well i i think it's more like the radiation of a certain kind of light. No, it's not the walk. And I don't drive a BMW either. We got Libby hanging out. I'm back. I'm back in Ian's chair.
Starting point is 00:05:36 How's it going, everybody? I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com. Glad to be here. And I'm Serge.com. And I'm ready when you are, Tim. Here's the big news breaking history being made trump ally mike johnson elected house speaker three weeks after mccarthy ouster the republican house uh led house elected rep mike johnson as the new house speaker on wednesday a
Starting point is 00:05:58 major leadership change that comes three weeks after mccarthy was removed johnson a vocal supporter of former president donald trump and a key congressional figure in the failed efforts to overturn the 2020 election, will now take the reins of the bitterly divided House Republican majority and faces the looming threat of a government shutdown next month. It's going to be interesting. I mean, I think I don't know if this was him, but didn't didn't he say something about getting funding for for foreign foreign aid for Israel or war or something? Maybe that wasn't him. I don't know what I'm seeing, but didn't he say something about getting funding for foreign aid for Israel or war or something? Maybe that wasn't him. I don't know what I'm seeing. But I'm curious what's going to happen. What's the first thing they're going to do?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Is it going to be government funding? And is he going to go the same route as Kevin McCarthy and go for the... Is that a recording of me? No, it's not a recording of you. I actually thought... I thought I had this on. I wanted to see what the live chat looked like. Oh, okay. And
Starting point is 00:06:47 son of a gun, yeah, because it's always amusing. I turned the volume down. Yeah, but I'm wondering, what's a... Yeah, he did promise to... Semi-retarded is one of the features. Everyone knows I'm a lawyer and everyone knows that I'm brain damaged. Alright, well, you're doing
Starting point is 00:07:03 well, but the question I suppose is, is Mikeson going to be based or cringe so it's like schrodinger's speaker right now we don't know yet he's like he's in a temporary stasis while we wait to figure that out yeah i mean it is kind of fun to see people pretending and living and i were talking before we're not neither of us is going to pretend oh yeah of course Mike Johnson never heard of him never freaking heard of him and I've like been a you know I guess I'm not like a politics junkie like some people
Starting point is 00:07:32 but I'm pretty interested in politics maybe that's why he's the one who got the speakership because everyone's just like I don't know enough about him to complain so he's like last round draft pick at this point they tried everyone else and they can't get anybody else to get through.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. Because we were just talking yesterday saying like, we don't know how long this is going to take. And selfishly me, I was like, yes, less government spending is going on right now. Will we wait for this to get figured out? But now, yes, I do think they'll end up turning back on government spending.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I don't think there's going to be a shutdown now. You don't think so? You think they'll get something to do? Yeah, they got a speaker. I was just checking it out. And apparently Johnson has been skeptical toward ukraine of late though he supported them initially and supported u.s funding for ukraine initially and now he uh is interested to know where our money is being spent which i think is a good thing i think we should know where the 113
Starting point is 00:08:21 billion dollars in less than two years has gone as for israel he does seem much more pro-israel um than whom then for example then his then ukraine you know then ilhan omar rashida talib or some of the other squad members in the house um and he says the u.s unequivocally stands with israel will provide support and resources necessary to rid the world and the Middle East of Hamas. It's not just going to be Hamas. It's going to be World War III. Well, that may be, but that's where Mike Johnson stands.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So what's the scenario? How's it World War III? How does that happen? There's two scenarios that have been presented by, two prominent scenarios I've read. One was from Ben Shapiro, and one was from a former military chief out of the U ben shapir's position is that the u.s does not get involved then you're going to see an escalation between hamas and israel which results in in
Starting point is 00:09:14 hezbollah and iranian backed militias attacking israel israel's retaliation will result in an escalation eventually pulling in iran entirely... I didn't hear the world... That sounds like a regional conflict. Once Iran is involved, Israel then resorts to the Samson option, nuclear weapons or counter-invasions into foreign countries, which turns this into a Iran then calls in its allies, Saudi Arabia gets involved, and one by one dominoes begin falling. Now, that's Ben's argument.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I'm probably not giving it full justice. Ben is a super smart guy and i read that from him but the the counter argument is if the u.s gets involved it will result in iran then directly getting intervening in the region which then brings it russia etc etc okay russia not a not a thing anymore you don't think russia's gonna back back Iran? Russia doesn't... Russia can barely take care of itself in Ukraine. They don't have the resources, and their military capacity has been so severely demonstrated
Starting point is 00:10:17 to be hollow. I mean, their weapon systems, their command and control... But elaborate on that what do you mean they the one of the one of the main reasons their armor has failed so magnificently and so many of their so many of so many things that they were counting on happening have not happened is because the corruption lack of training and lack of resources has not been fully appreciated by the leadership but that's that's that's the history of russia that's exactly right napoleonic wars that's exactly right but that's what's one and two but so the only way the only the only deterrent russia has now as a counterweight to a first world military like the United States or Europeans is nuclear. there are serious questions about whether even their nuclear deterrent is,
Starting point is 00:11:29 like, you can't just take a snapshot of 1989 and say, okay, well, they still have those missiles. Yeah, but if they haven't been maintaining them and upgrading them. Right, and many of them were in other territories. And it's not only that, well, what the hell? I mean, they'll shoot off a bunch of them, right? No, you have to know when you use nuclear weapons you have to know exactly what's gonna happen yeah there's a certain margin of error but this doesn't doesn't i don't think that that counters the point that if the conflict bleeds out beyond ukraine if the u.s gets dragged into four or five
Starting point is 00:12:01 different war fronts then you have a world war well Well, if the United States... We're already at war with Russia. Right. Well, that is true. And I mean, I'm just curious. Historically, when we looked at conflicts in the Middle East, there was this concern of the Soviet Union, which had a well-developed relationship
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Starting point is 00:13:37 But Russia isn't the Soviet Union, and the relationships... I mean, is is more but i still don't think this addresses what we're talking about i mean there i don't think the argument is that there is a gigantic godzilla monster we're scared of that what we're concerned about is dozens of nations entering conflict that's the world war it's it's not like it's not like we're in this cold war scenario where it's like the soviet union and the u. to start firing nukes at each other. The concern is we're already at war in Ukraine, we're facing a potential war with China in Southeast Asia, and now we've got the Middle East bubbling up and the US is sending massive fleets. I think they announced that many more destroyers, ships are being sent out. I think the relevant question for almost everyone watching and listening is
Starting point is 00:14:26 I don't really care. I think most people are saying which of these Middle East countries have at each other. When we talk about I'm afraid of World War III, what we really are saying is are Americans going to be involved? Well, that's the part
Starting point is 00:14:42 we want to share about. We've got 19,000 personnel in the Mediterranean, not including the latest deployments, and we've got troops recently deployed into Europe, into Poland, with our active... We have special forces operating in Ukraine. So all I'm saying is I think that... I'm actually making, to some extent,
Starting point is 00:15:03 an argument about terminology. Because maybe it's because I'm an old Cold Warrior. When I hear World War III, I think, you know, the big one. And you're agreeing with me. No, we're not really talking about the big one. We're talking about a more than local conflict. No, we're talking about the big one. We're talking about the big one.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So I haven't heard that yet. But I think it sounds like what you're saying is there has to be one gigantic bad guy. I'm saying that the United States is, notwithstanding all the damage that's been done to the military, and in terms of readiness and all the things, is the sole hegemon in military affairs in the world. There are competitors, but number one is far and away the United States. The two carrier groups that are already in the region are already untouchable by pretty much everyone. So the question is, does the United States get to do whatever it wants or does it have to worry about a meaningful,
Starting point is 00:16:13 in other words, all right, do we have to worry about Iran? Yeah, that's a good question. Can the United States do whatever it wants or does it have to worry about enemies who could take it down in certain ways? I mean, the thing about haven't we seen that though haven't hasn't like i'm i'm not remembering exactly but didn't we
Starting point is 00:16:30 have ships in the middle east at one point and they were taken down by iran with like you know it was like a david and goliath type of thing and they took us down with not little well there there was i think uh there was an attack yeah it wasn't Iran, I'm sure, paid for it. I'm not remembering exactly what it was. Now that would be the Biden administration paying it through Iran. I think that was, yes, there was like a dinghy rolled up. With some little bombs on it. Of an old-fashioned.
Starting point is 00:17:04 In other words, what we're talking about here, in other words, there's always going to be that counterforce, you know, or that unconventional warfare, you know, guerrilla type of risk. That's a given. The question I think that's really interesting one is, does Iran say to itself, we're going to attack American shipping
Starting point is 00:17:28 or rather American naval assets because they're enabling the Israelis to embarrass our clients in Gaza? In other words, will they take the role that Russia took when I was a kid and said, you know, Israel's embarrassing the Syrians. We have to now threaten to get involved. It's reported across the board that U.S. bases have been attacked by Iranian-backed militias using drones and other means, injuring dozens.
Starting point is 00:17:59 The U.S. has announced that they will respond to this and are sending out more assets into the region. The U.S. asked Israel to delay their invasion of Gaza to allow the U.S. to deploy more personnel and Patriot missile systems and THAAD systems. Those seem to be specifically for Iran. The concern being that as soon as Israel invades Gaza, then Iran is going to ramp up in some capacity. And maybe it's just through militias, but the U.S. considers those already to be Iran and is sending out missiles to prepare for conflict with Iran. And it's not just about Iran. It's about Iran, Russia, China, and any other country in between.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It doesn't need to be one big baddie the U.S. is scared of. It needs to be that we're already at war with russia no question we add in multiple fronts and you have world war world war two was not just hitler you had you had a pacific theater as well which is literally what brought us into the world world war japan was not our big baddie no one no one ever talks about um um what i forgot his name was the name of the japanese emperor in world war ii yeah yeah we don't go like can you talk about the atrocities of here nobody cares hitler and germany i mean no no i mean what i'm saying is in america culturally we say hitler and
Starting point is 00:19:16 germany they were the big bad guys right even though it was world war and we were pulled into it because of here you know right so we could be pulled into a world war that involves Xi Jinping or whoever else. So my take on it as just, you know, just a lawyer in New Jersey, okay? I'm not a military affairs expert, but I don't believe China considers it worth it to them to get involved in this militarily i don't think russia has the capacity but i do but i none of that it's it's it's not going to get involved don't you think china could get involved with taiwan and then biden had said that we will military to militarily defend taiwan and then like they've said we can afford three wars yeah i mean could we potentially
Starting point is 00:20:03 be um spending in Ukraine? We already have guys on the ground in Ukraine and Kiev, like the special forces guys. Could we be spending and like having guys in the Middle East and spending and having guys in the South China Sea? Is that a, that's a likely scenario. That would look like a world war to me. So are you saying that China would opportunistically say, well, for the U.S. Which then results in Vietnam losing it because China's already been blowing up Vietnamese fishing vessels claiming the South China Sea is their own. South China Sea is a gigantic issue.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And then you get Australia. Then you get South Korea. You get Japan. The region erupts now you have massive regional political warfare hot conflict in southeast asia in the middle east in eastern europe world war and didn't we just give australia or sell australia a bunch of nuclear subs well i feel like that there was there was there was a while ago so i don't know i vaguely remember the details but i do know that the u.s has been working with Australia specifically because of China and Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:21:06 The U.S. needs base of operations for the region. What people need to understand when it comes to Taiwan is that Taiwan is, what is it, like 70 miles or something off of the coast of mainland China. So for the U.S. to be able to defend Taiwan, you need a place to have your ships and refuel your planes. And that is massively if difficult if not impossible considering mainland china is literally right there and they're going to have an endless supply stack it all right next to the shore and they're going to be like i can do this all day now if they move on taiwan the fear is that japan's going to lose it south korea is going to lose it vietnam's going to lose it then you've got all the other smaller countries got indonesia you've got singapore you've got uh the philippines so but is the argument that they would otherwise
Starting point is 00:21:52 not do this if the u.s were not paying attention to what's going on in the middle east if we weren't my feeling is like when i think about china being opportunistic i I think if the U.S. weren't so extended, they wouldn't have the opportunity to go about doing that. I hear that. But I do think that China moving on Taiwan is an inevitability. The issue is just that the U.S. seems to think Joe Biden, Janet Yellen, we can afford two wars. We can afford three wars. Yeah. Do they believe that we can afford three?
Starting point is 00:22:23 Right. Like, what better time is there to wait? Are they literally waiting for a third conflict we're not gonna go on the third one we're gonna go on the fourth one right like is there a better time for them to do that when we are as overextended as we are right now i don't know i mean are we are we overextended i believe we i mean in what way like i believe massively yeah no no no no i don't i don't mean an adjective i want to hear... I want metrics. Are we... Financially.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yes, we are. Oh, financially? I didn't know that... I thought that we just print money now. I didn't realize that that was a factor. Well, when they're talking about it, when they were talking about... They were talking about financially,
Starting point is 00:22:56 we can afford three wars when we know that we can't. We are overextended. We have a military presence defending the borders of Ukraine and not our southern border, and that is the definition of overextended. We have a military presence defending the borders of Ukraine and not our southern border. And that is the definition of overextended. Well, no, that's I can't agree with you on that because that's just a definition of bad policy.
Starting point is 00:23:15 The reason that we're not doing anything about the southern border isn't because we're out of money. It's because there's no will to do it. I mean, that's an entirely purposeful. I mean, it's hard to say that they spend the money when they want to spend the money they're sending people to texas to cut the wires right that prevent immigrants from coming in that costs money that's it's it's a matter of that that's a policy choice they're like 31 trillion in debt 35 trillion but i think it is really important to define our term so when we say overextended, I mean financially, it's a freaking disaster. But there is
Starting point is 00:23:48 no consideration whatsoever. I mean, we've been spending like a drunken sailor for 10 years. When's the last time an actual budget was passed? We don't do that in this country. Debt ceiling. I want to jump to this story. Let's bring it back home
Starting point is 00:24:04 because this is kind of crazy. We have this tweet from Yashir ali jewish students at cooper union are in the library as protesters pound on the door listen with the sound on he says this is crazy listen so they're chanting free free palestine while banging on the door trying to get into a room where they've secured a handful of jewish students and uh let me see what tweets we have carol markowitz uh says jewish students had to be evacuated via tunnels for their safety in new york city uh look i think the far left i think they're deranged i think they're psychotic i think they're dangerous mobs we saw that video out of minneapolis where they attacked the elderly man in his car chased him down and then tried breaking out his windows all because he was like there by
Starting point is 00:24:56 accident oh sorry you kicked the power i did something yeah you kicked the plug i did it wrong anyway yeah they tried they they they would they'd kill this guy you know they because what happens is it's the snowflake in the avalanche so i talk about all the time i don't i don't think it's fair to say that your average person at one of these protests has the has the motive and intention to kill a person what happens is someone walks down the street and one person shoves them the next person runs up and kicks them the next person runs up and kicks them again each of them thinking i'll kick the guy but after getting kicked five or six times you're dead yeah and so this is what you see when this guy is
Starting point is 00:25:35 pulling out through this car i think i think these students if that door was opened would have been mercilessly beaten and hospitalized does anyone have the slightest idea what these protesters purported to want to do with the students? Well, the funny thing is what you were talking earlier about language, right? So when we talk about it here, what scares me the most about this is the use of language. So they're not saying hurt the Jews, they're saying free Palestine, which gives them a sort,
Starting point is 00:26:04 it allows them to put like to terroristically threaten these people without understanding, without having to admit that what they want to do is hurt another person because it's changing the language ever so subtly so that you don't have to feel as if you're threatening someone or making
Starting point is 00:26:19 terroristic threats. It's very different. And you can make these kids believe that what they're pushing for is actually a noble cause anything they don't believe anything these people are not sitting down and discussing the merits of the region that is not what's happening every one of the protests i've ever been to with these leftists 90 have no idea what's going on my favorite moment one of my favorite moments was during occupy wall street and what they would what they would chant the the communists would chant anti-capitalista they'll go ah auntie auntie capitalista and okay i get it and you would hear 90 of the people saying adiga about obisto because they have no idea what's
Starting point is 00:26:58 being said let's go brandon and so there's a live stream i've got where i asked the guy i was like what are you chanting and he's like, oh, I'm chanting with him. I'm like, I know. What are you saying? And he goes, oh, I don't know. And he just tries to walk away. But it's gibberish nonsense there. That's why those people are so dangerous.
Starting point is 00:27:13 They're mindless zombies. That's what I'm saying. If what they were, if what somebody had got them chanting was a direct threat to the people in that building, would those same people have followed through and continued bashing on the door? You believe that they would. I believe that have like, I have been to these riots the most rabid of them yes no no no no the most banal of them yeah the most i have i have seen people who showed up not even knowing a
Starting point is 00:27:37 part of what happened chuck a brick at a cop because when when when when the avalanche begins they're all doing one small thing they don't find unreasonable. A single person picking a brick out of the ground and chucking it at a person is an extreme act. But what happens is one guy, this happened in, I think it was, I can't remember where it was. It might have been D.C. One guy starts pulling bricks out of the ground. He walks into the ground and then he starts like chipping away at the brick. Another guy walks up and then pops
Starting point is 00:28:06 it up. Another guy walks, grabs it. Then one guy tosses it to a guy. Then the guy gets it and just throws it. That guy has no idea what's going on. That was not the actions of one person who consciously decided to pick up a brick and then throw it at a cop. It was a bunch of people screaming in anger, not paying attention. And then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:28:22 someone tosses a brick to him and he catches it and he just chucks it without a second thought. Look when they went to Tucker Carl he catches it and he just chucks it. Without a second thought. Look when they went to Tucker Carlson's house and started banging on the door. Or when they went to Cassandra Fairbank's house with a bunch of fireworks and started blasting at her house, then the media lied about it even happening. Listen, the problem here isn't these animals.
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Starting point is 00:29:43 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Have refused to do so. Well, and they've refused to do so not just in a physical sense, right? They've refused to do so in an intellectual sense. So the institutions that are supposed to be raising our nation's leaders to be, you know, thought leaders, to be intellectual, to be critical thinkers, to think deeply, to examine all sides of an issue, to make decisions in a good and appropriate and moral and ethical way, they have abandoned their obligation to do that. And they have instead force fed them, indoctrinated them in these wasteful ideologies that are intent essentially on destroying American culture and society. Yes, that's true. But this is that is not what we are seeing here.
Starting point is 00:30:24 No, these are monsters these these students say that don't know what's going on don't care what's going on all they know is one of their friends says are you going to the protest they went okay and then they said here's here's this here's the time and the date and they showed up then people started chanting something so they chanted along the people banging on the door right now though that individual banging the door just thinks they're making noise they don't think in their mind they're terrorizing people but the other people behind them hear the banging and the fervor and they're imagining the people banging on the door are trying to bust it down to hurt people so when the door finally breaks open and they all rush in one person in a mask is going to run up and smack
Starting point is 00:31:05 one of the jewish students and then someone seeing that will start filming and chasing after and then i've seen this in person i was in san jose at a trump rally and i watched them beat one of their own one of their own protesters so what happened was why did they do that they did not know who he was and it did not matter. The moment he backed away, he became an other to the mob and they chased him and started punching him. Why? Because he was running. That's it.
Starting point is 00:31:33 They chased him down, punched him in the mouth. And I and then I was talking to him. He's like, I'm here protesting Trump. They punched me. He's bleeding from the mouth. There's a crowd of people. One of these guys. And that's why I said like these things are
Starting point is 00:31:46 ridiculously dangerous it's mindless when a scuffle breaks out i'll give you another story i was at columbia university mike cernovich was speaking this was several years ago and one person in the crowd recognized me and didn't like me so he yelled that's tim pool do not let him film you so you know what i did when he pointed i I looked with where he was pointing. Cause I know how these mobs operate. Everybody turns into my, in my direction and they're looking for the person against them. So I turned with them and I'm going like, where's he at? And everybody's shrugging, like, where's he at? And he's like this guy right here. And I'm like, and then someone walks up to a random photographer and starts
Starting point is 00:32:25 screaming at him about he's the problem and i'm like because they couldn't identify the other because i know what these what happens at these events you go to one of these protests and if you are discernibly another one person will push you then as soon as the fighting happens and you start running away they'll start chasing after you for no reason just because they're like oh they're running i'm running then when they see other people running after them they're like what's happening what's happening why is he running get him get him then they shove you down and start kicking you literally for no reason right we've seen this in our literature for years too i mean it's in orwell it's in kafka it's in ray bradbury luke rudkowski was in uh was in germany we were in uh hamburg during i think it was the g20 and luke was bought
Starting point is 00:33:07 was was with a german journalist walking down the street when some random dude yelled nazi schweinhund at him and then he was like what and then all of a sudden random people who are sitting on the ground ran up and started punching luke in the back and in the head and then luke and this journalist not not Nazis, were there just filming things, started running. People were chasing them. They made it to first responders who then treated them for scrapes and bruises.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And watch Luke's video of this. It's a question of, why did these random people who were just sitting on the ground run up and start punching Luke for no reason? This is what these mobs do. So you're saying they're just driven by themselves they're just like driven by it's like a feeding frenzy like a shark yeah like piranhas it's it's or those
Starting point is 00:33:51 sharks that like watch the video of the car of the car in minneapolis that drove through the protest very slowly nobody got hit as soon as he starts driving away people will run after the car and it's it's innocuous it's a person will have a camera and they'll run after the car and it's, it's innocuous. It's a person will have a camera and they'll run towards the car just to film it. People behind him see him chasing the car. So they chase, then the whole crowd sees a bunch of people running and they all run to see what's going on. Eventually they surround the car and then someone goes, that's him. No one has any idea or any information. And then one guy who hears that thinks he must be a bad guy and starts kicking and stomping on the car. Other people join in.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Old guy in the car is freaking out like, why am I being attacked? And then tries to escape. Imagine what it says to these students, too, when the university does not have the people protesting violently removed, but instead has to evacuate them as if they were being rightfully targeted rightfully targeted right so what does that say to them that they're not actually there to protect you the one who's being assaulted the one who's being you know we saw this in university of washington as well so there were these big basically pro-hamas protests at the university of washington and some students were speaking, like a dean was there,
Starting point is 00:35:06 and some students were speaking to the dean saying, you know, these people want us dead. They want to kill us. And the dean was trying to get the students, the Jewish students who were complaining about it, who were in tears, trying to get them to move on and stop complaining about it
Starting point is 00:35:19 so that the pro-terrorist mob could continue their protest. Which they're doing in your live chat right now, by the way. Oh, really? Oh, my God. I mean, there are three or four people who just keep repeating the same thing. I mean, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Welcome to the internet. Yes, well, you have become a crypto Jew. That's not true. Cassandra Fairbanks, our booker, proves that we're actually anti-Semitic. No, no, that is... So you're both crypto're actually anti-semitic no no that's that is so you're both the work you and anti-semitic at the same time that's amazing well that's okay because the jews are both uh are both um you know control the world's money supply and and also
Starting point is 00:35:58 people who who are scavengers who live off the uh you know let me let me let me pull the story from C.L. Love. I'm not familiar with this outlet, but they wrote police source. Beware of Eastern Parkway this Shabbos. I hope I'm pronouncing correctly. Got it. You nailed it. It says a propel city and protest has been planned for this Shabbos afternoon near the Crown Heights neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:36:19 This is yikes. This is from the is from today. And they say the flood Brooklyn for Gaza protest is scheduled 3 p.m. this Shabbos at the Brooklyn Museum in Crown Heights and is expected to draw large crowds in support of Palestinians in Gaza. Quote, Jews should definitely avoid the area, a police source told COL Live. There's no intel at this time in which direction the protest will head. Locals should definitely stay away from the Eastern Parkway in that area. Now, the question, of course, is it's hard for Jews to avoid Crown Heights. Well, sure. But the question is, is this like what's the source?
Starting point is 00:36:50 You know, I mean, there's respect to see all of I'm not familiar with them. Should we believe this? Let me tell you this right now. If there is going to be a leftist pro-Palestine march and you are Jewish, you I would I would tell you. And it sucks to say, but you are in danger from these people. I think so, too. No question. This is Crown Heights. Crown Heights is where the Lubavitch Casino lives.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The Brooklyn Museum is basically in Crown Heights. And there were riots in Crown Heights. That's where the Crown Heights riots took place during the Dinkins administration. He told the police to stand down. Eric administration. He told the police to stand down. Eric Adams won't tell the police to stand down. He can't really. It's not on it. Well,
Starting point is 00:37:32 he ran on a, I'm going to get tough on crime ticket. Yes. And he's also been, he's also come out very strongly in a way that Bill de Blasio certainly would not have done. De Blasio doesn't know what strong means. He certainly doesn't know, you know, a lot of things that Bill doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Right, for sure. But Adams has been good, and he is a former cop. But it is a, this is a gigantic strain, as we were actually, we were talking about this before we started. This is a strain on the Democratic coalition. But in New York, of all places, there's going to be a very high... You see, the thing about Lubavitcher, Hasidim, is they don't back down.
Starting point is 00:38:14 They're the only Jews left in Crown Heights, which in the 50s, as late as the 50s and 60s, was a very significant Jewish neighborhood that had many different kinds of Jews in it. Every other Jewish community, for all practical purposes, left Crown Heights when, as they used to say, the neighborhood changed. But the Grand Rabbi of Lubavitch, the Rebbe, Rabbi Schneerson, said, we're not going to run. This is our neighborhood and we're staying here. These are tough guys. The problem is they're a minority. Jews are not actually particularly handy in the United States with self-defense. But on the other hand, a lot of lessons have been learned. The idea that the New York City police would permit an encounter between the, you know, Hasidim of Lubavitch and this protest is insane. We don't know which direction they're going to go in. You got to make sure you know what direction they go
Starting point is 00:39:33 in and you got to make sure it doesn't go in the direction of- Do you think there'll be violence in Crown Heights? I really don't think so. But then again, a lot of things have happened that I never thought would happen. Yeah. We have this tweet from nikki freed she's of course a democrat running uh for governor in florida chairwoman of the florida dems she responded to a video we just talked about in a previous segment jewish students at cooper union college have been locked inside the library for their own safety as a mob of anti-israeli protesters block the doors she said this is outrageous those are not israeli students right she said this is outrageous and we are seeing these types of videos and stories all over our country we live in a civil society where this is not only not okay but illegal and everyone
Starting point is 00:40:16 has a responsibility to stand up against hate speech let me also be very clear anti-israel is anti-semitism the democrats are going to be ripped to shreds this election cycle over this issue really you really think so absolutely nikki fried is trying to win over democrat votes in florida and she's coming out in defense of israel good luck now a lot of a lot of prominent liberals have have begun to push back on the left we had uh and people in pop culture how look at the harvard students who came out there was it was a blacklist against them because they're they're they're pro-hamas and and it was not just pro-palestine it was them calling the hamas the resistance fighting back i mean this is crazy
Starting point is 00:40:59 stuff if you're a democrat and you need that 10 to 20 percent of progressive left vote and you are pro-Israel, you've lost it. No question. These people are fervently anti-Israel. There were also 3,000 U.K. artists who signed a letter that was basically pro-Palestinian, pro-ceasefire, anti-Israel. So we were talking about this yesterday the amount of celebrities i've watched come out and try to find middle ground only to be torn to shreds on both sides has been truly incredible to watch as what three thousand of them signed the letter to biden two days ago right that said that please yes the hollywood people right so a lot of those people who are like leftists uh or at the very least they vote Democrat all the time. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And they're realizing now just how fractured aspects of the party that they've supported for all these years actually are because they're seeing something they've never seen before. It's like I said earlier, I will never be more amazed at the idea of the people who've been calling people Nazis for four years, breaking down and doing this. It's absolutely insane. But I just don't think that a lot of the celebrities who maybe they vote Democrat, but they don't pay super close attention to politics other than orange man bad, right? They don't really look at it that closely. Maybe they follow their local governor's race or something like that. But they didn't realize if you're not super politically aware, if you're not following what's going on in the news, you wouldn't know this was
Starting point is 00:42:23 happening. It's kind of the same way when we were talking a while ago about what was happening in England a couple of years ago when the Muslim population was protesting LGBTQ stuff within the school districts there. That was so fascinating. Right? So it goes a lot to that same. They don't realize that there is fracture within their audience
Starting point is 00:42:42 because it's a weird type of cognitive dissonance. That's happened in Ireland and that's been happening in Canada too. I think it's because they don't pay attention. So we have this idea. It's a really good idea. It's a game show. I think we should do it.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So maybe we just need to get someone who's going to start setting it up. It's a trivia, political trivia game show where we get left versus right and we ask basic topical news questions. And then we see who gets the most correct answers. Maybe a little history. Maybe a little modern history.
Starting point is 00:43:11 No, no, of course. Right, yeah. For sure. Like who built the Berlin Wall? This would be interesting because what would happen is I think both sides would end up saying, I'm correct. And they would cite their news source, which would be CNN. And then somebody else would cite another source. Or they would just. Citing sources. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:43:27 The question that I like to cite is, what was the name of the Ukrainian prosecutor fired after Joe Biden threatened to withhold one billion dollars in loan guarantees? Of course, the left is going to say, huh? And the right is going to go, Victor Shokin. And it's like, well, another thousand points for the left will just say that didn't happen and you're like actually it did happen and you'll have to explain it no you're wrong you're wrong so so the lefties won't come on your show because they will not they will not be confronted with facts they will well they you know how many times i've tried to get people from the left on my show of course but my point the point i want to make going back you know
Starting point is 00:44:05 outside of the game show question is tara strong voice actress very well known like one of the most famous voice actor to actresses of our generation harley quinn batgirl timmy turner you name it uh she was very woke and very left despite the fact the left has been saying for a decade plus i mean for a long time that they want to end israel patrice cullors 2015 black lives matter saying end the imperialist project that is known as israel and and and she didn't care she didn't care when people like i or you or any of us said calmly hey like this is not this is not good you shouldn't support these groups no she blocks you
Starting point is 00:44:45 she says screw you i'm i'm gonna stay in my lane and keep getting my paychecks until they attacked until hamas massacred a bunch of civilians and that's part of their doctrine to kill civilians and capture them for as bargaining chips and when she got mad and tweeted this is an outrage they fired her yep they fired her from her job didn't even tell her didn't even tell her she found out on social media just tweeted she's no longer going to be voicing this character on our show yeah with without without like seriously you got a problem with someone's tweet you talk you call them on the phone first nope and she was shocked she was so shocked by this yeah and you know that's like what happened to gina carano yeah but gina carano did
Starting point is 00:45:22 nothing wrong right like tara but tara chose to side with people who are evil and have for a decade been longer than this, but prominently calling for an end to Israel. And she ignored that. Because at the time what she was protesting or what she was virtue signaling about had nothing to do with it. So it didn't matter at that time. If it's BLM, they're worried in 2020 about what's going on with Black Lives Matter and George Floyd. But it's just that the chickens had not come home to roost yet because now we're here. You know, there's a famous poem that's kind of about when you don't speak up for other people and what eventually happens to you. And I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Wait, Amy Schumer wrote that, right? Well, speaking of Schumers, that was exactly the point I was gonna make you know frankly there is no group in America that is more responsible for this state of affairs then the Jews the Chuck Schumer's of the world the liberal donors who have been screaming about how the the ADLs of the world, what we have to worry about is white supremacists, white nationalism, ignoring what was seething and bubbling. And as Tim said, all you had to do was pay attention.
Starting point is 00:46:37 They refused to do that because they're on a team. And their team, they replaced the faith of their ancestors with the faith of fdr interesting and the american the the the the church of the american assimilated jew is the democratic party and democrat and jewish institutions that have been so profoundly influential because of the ability of Jews to succeed in so many areas of endeavor. All the things that these lunatics in your live chat are going on about, the disproportional, yes, it is true that Jews are disproportionately represented in areas requiring incredibly hard work
Starting point is 00:47:30 high intelligence and diligence surprisingly To people who are unfamiliar with those concepts, but not surprisingly to the rest of us Jews Have been in a position to stop it from happening, and they have not only let it happen, they have enabled it. Someone like Chuck Schumer, nothing is more important to him than maintaining his personal position
Starting point is 00:47:57 of power and privilege in the United States Senate so that he let the Iran deal go through. He was given permission to meekly wave his hand about it. If Schumer had not wanted it to go through, it would not have gone through. You mean the $6 billion? No, I'm talking about the original Obama-Iran deal. Oh, that going back. Yeah, yeah. AIPAC, the entire purpose of the existence of AIPAC is to prevent things like the Iran deal.
Starting point is 00:48:25 They did not prevent it because they didn't want to rock the boat with the Democratic Party. Have Jews woken up? Probably not. Never feels like they ever do. Like any group. I just want to mention to people, we have been absolutely paying attention to what's going on in Maine. Oh, the shooting there? Yeah, but it's like, I just want to let you guys know.
Starting point is 00:48:49 It just happened. There are multiple scenes. Some people are concerned it may be a terror attack. Two active shooters in different locations. Some reporting up to 16 have been shot. But we don't know anything right now other than that's all I can say. I mean, there's nothing else to be said, right? If you're in the area in, what was itwiston lewiston mania uh lock your doors and stay inside
Starting point is 00:49:09 what the police are saying i guess when it comes to maine you don't have to worry about any jews or even the arabs being involved i don't think that's true yeah i don't think that's true i don't think that's true anywhere in the country i i i i don't want to say too much but i believe there is a potentiality that this is related to Israel-Palestine. Could be. There's also, I mean, there's been a lot of illegal immigration
Starting point is 00:49:30 across the Canadian border, oddly. New Hampshire just put together a coalition or something to try and deal with illegal immigration coming in from the north. So there has been a lot of that. But also you see with the immigration situation, you've seen the Biden administration literally flying people all over the country to disseminate the seven million people that they want to come into this country for some crazy reason uh in as many
Starting point is 00:49:56 different places as possible but to what you were saying earlier like why why they vote for something why they vote for the democrat party democratic party when you feel like it may be going against interest but it's also like think about what they do in Chicago. They get rid of one guy and they vote in another guy who's going to implement policies just as bad. High crime areas don't vote in.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I feel like gone are the days, and maybe I'm just young so I don't understand, but I don't see New York ever going back to somebody like Giuliani. You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like any of these bigger, at least the cities, the big cities that have a large condensed group of people, I don't feel like they learn their lessons.
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Starting point is 00:51:30 Ontario. You can only, to live in New York City, you have to either be very wealthy. I left in January after like 20 something years. I remember hearing, I said in January, that was the last middle-class person. And that was you. That was that was me yeah because i have like a chart at my you know in my let's let me pull the story as we get into the subject and then we'll we'll we'll jump back daily mail reports new save san francisco gets four million dollars in funding from billionaires even as more than 40 000 crimes are recorded across the city this year and office vacancy rates are at 34 percent and then you see my favorite is like now you see these like i love when the media puts out these propaganda pieces it's like the most uh the people with the happiest the happiest places to
Starting point is 00:52:15 live in america and it's all of these cities and you're like how is that possible when the crime is this high and you look at the index about like what actually they constituted to mean happiness. And it tends to be things like abortion rights and all these other things like killing babies. Yes, exactly. If that makes you happy, then that's fine. But it's like nobody learns their lessons in these cities anymore. I just don't see anything changing. Of course, like I said, it could be because I'm younger and I just don't have the perspective of however many years.
Starting point is 00:52:41 You look San Francisco can be saved. How really? With the billionaires there there is a there is a billionaire who could save it which one no please donald trump donald trump donald trump yeah he saved new york city he's pretty good so you know about juliani was great sure sure but donald trump is is credited with turning uh new york around you know what you know about this run you know what, right? Tell me this particular narrative. So as the story goes, New York in the 80s was a crime-ridden hellhole, I mean, into the 90s.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You had the subway vigilante that people were cheering on because they were so sick and tired of the crime. And it's crazy for me to look at these photos of the old subways, of how it used to be. That wasn't the 80s. That was the 70s. And it was Ed Koch who began the process of reclaiming. In other words, the 80s was the turnaround decade. So the argument for Donald Trump's involvement was that he started,
Starting point is 00:53:38 it really is a simple story. Property was cheap. There was an opportunity to create this vision of upscale upscale new york living donald trump started to build and develop in the area and try and work to convince many other wealthy people to come back because it was the cool place to be and this is where you needed to be with all the luxury brought back tax revenues and that's that's that's the very very very simple version i watched like a two-hour documentary breaking down the real estate development
Starting point is 00:54:05 and how it started to change neighborhoods. I could see a narrative that says, you know, among the people who made a change were Donald Trump. But the idea that Donald Trump, you know, I was there. I was there. And it was interesting that Donald Trump was building luxury housing. And there was also a very remarkable incident.
Starting point is 00:54:31 There was a skating rink in Central Park that had fallen into disrepair like everything in New York did in the 60s and 70s. And New York City had been utterly unable to repair it. They could not. Wollman Rinker was called. This is a great story. Right. I love this one. Utterly unable.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And then just, you know, because all these work rules and all these unions. Donald Trump, who in the time was just Donald Trump, okay? He just was this guy who, you know, who was a real estate developer. He says, I can do this. And the consulate minister says, all right, wise guy, let's see you do it. And in like three months.
Starting point is 00:55:17 He fixed it up. He fixes it up. And it was this great free enterprise story that, you know, see what a can-do person can do if he's not working for the government. And that really put him on the map in a sort of political way that he had not previously been at the time. But, you know, New York is one of those places that you can hardly ever really learn any lessons from that are applicable. In other words, New York. New York is its very own place.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Right. When I grew up, the garment district was a place where garments were manufactured. New York was still an industrial city and it was a shipping hub, neither of which it is at all anymore. Well, during COVID, I remember because I had extra time on my hands. I lived in Bay Ridge and I was always seeing the, I would like ride my bike down the Greenway and there were the massive ships coming in, like those huge cargo ships. There were a ton of them. And then at a certain point, it stopped for a while.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And I was like, that's not good. Well, but there's very, I mean. The shipping just kind of like dried up. Shipping is now basically done in the port of Newark and Elizabeth. Right. You see those giant things when you drive out of the city. So New York Harbor wasn't deep enough to be containerized, to take the big, a lot of reasons. It also had to do with the corruption of the unions on the docks. But.
Starting point is 00:56:43 The Merchant Marines. The point. Which is still, you get like family connections to get into the Merchant Marines still. The thing though is that New York, despite this, despite losing its industrial base and its transport significance, the way all the great Northeastern cities did,
Starting point is 00:57:03 because it had been a center of finance, Wall Street kept New York alive through the 90s, when deregulation came and Wall Street started becoming the racket that it is now. And that happened. And then between Koch and Giuliani, the rebuilding of New York into a tourist destination
Starting point is 00:57:33 was, you know, best case scenario, you're never going to make Cleveland or Philadelphia that kind of destination. It simply doesn't have the attraction. So New York, you can't, even if it were true that Donald Trump did this in New York,
Starting point is 00:57:51 San Francisco is a, of course, actually, San Francisco does have the tourist aspect to it. But I mean, look, my law firm, Dillon Law Group, Dillon Law Group, our headquarters is in San Francisco. That's where most of our, first of all, we can't even hire support staff in San Francisco anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Really? Why not? People will not work in the city, in San Francisco. I saw this wild video today of this woman who was just in tears. And she was like, I just got my first nine to five job after finishing college. Oh, yeah. That's a fun one. You must have seen this.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah, we talked about it. I can't believe it how do you have time for having a personal life if you work a nine to five job and i was like that video yeah are you no when we when we started watching that like i was like okay dunk on this girl right but it's like look she's she's not wrong she's not wrong but she's also she's also young and she will she will eventually the the pain of coming home from work when it's dark out will scab over and she'll just understand that that's the way the world is yeah like the rest of us it's very easy to like to dunk on stuff like that because that's my first thought
Starting point is 00:58:54 was the same thing it's like look you gotta work that's the way the world works i'm sorry you just have to go to work but sometimes but when i watch that and it, look, she's, it was like her first day after her first nine to five shift. It happens. She'll change. So just, we're trying to be careful with this about Maine. There are some high profile accounts tweeting that some photos of the suspect have been released. I'm seeing that too. Many people are saying it's two individuals of Middle Eastern descent.
Starting point is 00:59:24 It's very preliminary. There's a two individuals of middle eastern descent it's very preliminary there's a police go ahead sorry the suspect does look like they may be middle eastern the photos released i don't know for sure um and there's a police scanner video going around of what appears to be dispatchers or someone the police saying two males one armed with a gun middle eastern descent maroon suv But we don't know that any of these things are real. And I bring this up because, you know, if you're in the area, you need to stay safe. I don't know if this information could help, but I will say if people are putting out fake information, you need to make sure you're looking towards trusted sources and directly to law enforcement if you're in the area. uh the the big concern right now is like there are some parody accounts tweeting this video this could be a fake clip of
Starting point is 01:00:11 a police gang because people are just trying to sow chaos which is horrifying and it's terrifying i don't know for sure but a lot of people uh are saying they've seen similar things outside of this and a few high profile accounts are saying middle eastern uh described as middle eastern so that's that that that's it for now it's not confirmed don't know please stay safe that that you know that was basically why when you were like it's you know maine probably not related i'm like at just because the guy's middle eastern doesn't mean it is related but there's with what we've seen so far you know there's there's one story we didn't pull up where a guy broke into the home of a Jewish family in California and was threatening to kill them. So, yeah, that's crazy, too. Do you want to live in a city right about now?
Starting point is 01:00:54 You know where I want to live is West Virginia. It just never makes sense. We all have guns. Now, the more that I see all of this stuff in all of these cities, and that's what I'm saying. Like they don't it doesn't seem like every voting cycle they ever learn their lesson. Right. These places become more crime ridden with I'm saying. It doesn't seem like every voting cycle they ever learn their lesson, right? These places become more crime-ridden with every election cycle. It gets more... Remember when...
Starting point is 01:01:09 How long ago was it? Like two months ago when Kai Sinat did the PlayStation 5 giveaway, like 20,000 people showed up and just hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage gets done. But look, this is my point. That dude did a PlayStation giveaway
Starting point is 01:01:25 and people started riding and destroying and attacking people. People were getting beaten up in the street. Why? There's no political cause there. It doesn't matter. Because people go insane in large crowds. So basically cities were just the bad. Cities are just the problem.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Oh, yeah. It's people being condensed. Not all people do. You know what's crazy? Not all people go insane in large crowds. Well, not all people do. But what's great not all people go insane in large crap well not all people do but there i mean i think that it is i think that everyone has the capability for to become a monster it's true that not all people do thinking you know i mean it's you think you do do i think i do yeah oh for sure i don't think you do i think i i mean i think if i don't think i do i am at greater risk of becoming a monster than if I...
Starting point is 01:02:06 It's not just being a monster. You have to be very considerate. In large crowds, people are not just being violent. They're also just being very, very stupid. So going insane is not just about a person deciding to smash a window. It's people acting in irrational ways. Okay. So...
Starting point is 01:02:22 I got to tell you something. There are people, and it includes everyone in this room right now, who will never be swept away by that. You're correct, but it's a small number. And you have to be aware of it. It might be the five of us. Well, you know what the thing is,
Starting point is 01:02:37 nobody else. Having been on the ground, and again, I assume first responders can probably speak to this way better than I, but having been in numerous conflict situations, urban conflict, civil unrest, I can tell you that out of the 500 people in the crowd, you'll see three act rationally. And the rest are just, you wonder why someone would do such a thing. Like, you ever watch Indiana Jones?
Starting point is 01:03:02 Well, January 6th, by the way. Oh, no. January 6th,th frankly there were people it was dumb to go in the first place it was an obvious it was an obvious trap whether you whether it was meant set up as a trap by the government or not i'm not even getting into but you'd have to be a schmuck i think but people who did not go there looking to make trouble definitely lost their head. But that's not necessarily what I mean.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Have you ever seen the movie Prometheus? No. Have you guys seen Prometheus? Brad, of course, has seen all of it. Okay, you know the scene when the giant ring ship is rolling forward? Okay, so it's a gigantic spaceship. It's a big donut, and it is rolling, and there is a person running in the line of the ship
Starting point is 01:03:44 as it's about to crush them and they get crushed and you ask yourself like that was dumb why didn't they run to the left yeah and it's like i wonder why and it's like a kind of pull you're like that's stupid if i was doing it let me tell you let me tell you i have been at so many riots where people have been shot and everyone runs straight down the line of where the person is shooting and being chased and i've just been like why do they do that because people just go insane psychology of public panic and and my attitude is like why did you not turn left and like just break away from the crowd and you may be in a way like
Starting point is 01:04:17 you may be more able to think like in a in a high pressure situation you may be more prone to thinking rationally than other people are well Well, I think it could be experience. Yes. But I think this is my point is that it's not just about whether they're going to attack. It's about the general breakdown of cognitive function. And right now we're in a society like a lot of these, they're young people, right? We have a heavily medicated society. We have a very, very doomeristic society right now where kids are angry.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Kids are upset. They're being constantly bombarded with fear porn about climate change, about all of these things. They're told the world's going to end in 12 years by politicians. And you wonder why people are so on edge and so easy to push to violence or push to irrational acts. My wife is always referring. Now on strike for Gaza. The well-respected and highly accomplished writer for Legal Insurrection, Jane Coleman, who is Mrs. Coleman, my wife,
Starting point is 01:05:13 is always referring to the work about crowd psychology by Elias Canetti. And he deals with what Tim is talking about here. And in his work, he really expands the application of crowd psychology to a tremendous number of phenomena in society. But you should look at that book, Tim, and tell me what's in it, because between you and Jane, I don't have to read it. Oh, he won the Nobel Prize in 1981, that guy? He was quite a big deal. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And that's what we're talking about here, is the madness of crowds. And I don't want to be unrealistic about it. I recognize that. But I do think that people who are more civilized will act more civilized in large numbers, and people who are less civilized will act less civilized in large numbers. We once thought we had a civilization here.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Well, we did have a civilization when we built it. And we built it so big and so strong that it's taking a long time to crumble. And then what happened was we started saying we should work really, really hard to make sure people who are unwell can continue to be a part of our society. But there's good things about that. We want to help people survive. Right. Well, there's the unwell.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I mean, what's happened to public spaces in general, that's the San help people survive right well there's the unwell i mean public there's what's happened to public spaces in general there's that's the san francisco story right is that we gave up the the the idea that a society is entitled to not necessarily act cruel, cruelly towards people who are unwell, but to protect itself and its spaces and its children, its vulnerable people, people, and its vulnerable people from those who are unwell. That's one issue. Then there's the other issue of the importation of pre-modern societal units. That's a crazy thing that's happening right now. The importation of, as you say, pre-
Starting point is 01:07:31 What did you say? Pre-modern. Pre-modern societal units. I mean- That is pretty wacky. And then- That's where we are. And then also refusing to encourage assimilation
Starting point is 01:07:40 and telling them that their culture is better than ours. Well, so there's a story that I was told. I can't remember. I heard this about a Saudi Arabian town that had a lot of oil and for the entirety of their small town's existence, it was very tribal. No computers, phones, none of this stuff. And then when oil was discovered, they were all sudden very, very, very wealthy. And they did not adapt very, very well to having mass wealth.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And what happened was they were just covered in gold chains and rubies and jewelry. To them, when you're in Livingston's Way, the status symbols were not fancy cars, was not big skyscrapers and penthouses. It wasn't the luxury infinity pool. It was gold and chains and things like this and having your jewelry so when they got a lot of money they just amplified everything that was about luxury to them so they ended up just covering themselves in gold and uh that was basically explained to me as like what happens when you abruptly just give maximum wealth to one group of people and it's and it really is, it's regardless of the level of development, this,
Starting point is 01:08:47 this behavior exists. And it's, and it's obvious because you can only know what you know. For instance, if you go to your average American and give them a ton of money, what are they going to do? They're going to buy a big house. They're going to get a big pool.
Starting point is 01:08:55 They're not going to act outside of societal norms. Lottery winners. Why so many lottery winners end up losing most of the money because they did not uh how they end up getting to it they don't actually know how to invest or how to build the wealth but it's not just that it's like you know elon musk wants to build a spaceship the average person who gets billions of dollars doesn't build a spaceship yeah they they want to do things that they they that they believe is luxury and and their desire so nice cars big houses you know big big properties and things like that many of them don't go and buy horses but horses are expensive and horses can be considered dressage of fancy no no it's they don't act outside of their their culture
Starting point is 01:09:38 so if you bring people into the united states that go from an impoverished city in Honduras into the U.S., they're going to, with access to these resources, amplify them in a way more akin to their society and less akin to ours. It's not about level of technological development. If they have certain behaviors when they get money, they go out and have this special kind of party with 13 kinds of booze or whatever. They'll do that same thing here. And then we'll say things like, shouldn't they be taking care of their house and whatever? Shouldn't the people in this small village be installing plumbing and like buying cars and building roads? We're so shocked that they buy gold and jewelry and gems. That was luxury.
Starting point is 01:10:21 This is why people make fun making the nouveau riche well okay but i think on the other end of the scale the point you're making is the fallacy of liberalism one of the great fallacies of liberalism has always been poverty is what makes people misbehave and the fact that's still the line why do people why do palestinians from gaza massacre people and and burn them alive poverty it's asinine it's an asinine well that's that's an that's an extremely but listen i think poverty is a huge component. It's a component, but the point is, you have societies that have lacked wealth forever and have nonetheless been stable, nonviolent. Like what? Well, the Eastern European Jews were remarkably poor in the 20th century,
Starting point is 01:11:28 and certainly those in the Pale Settlement in Russia. But they were a minority. They were a minority. So it's maybe not a very good example. But it was still a stable society. And so was Yemen, for example. Moroccans and Yemen. In other words, much of the Middle East, before the Western powers started screwing things up.
Starting point is 01:11:53 So like before the 40s? Well, I would say really well before the 40s. I would say the 19th century, 20th century. It's when they were dirt poor. These were really, remember, petroleum is not a factor. So there's no reason, you know, it's been millennia since spice roots mattered, right? And petroleum is not a thing yet. So what is making Arab societies wealthy?
Starting point is 01:12:25 Nothing. They're not wealthy. They're poor. But, I mean, homogeneity is an issue also, but the point is they had stability, and you don't have to be poor to be violent, or to be unhappy, or to misbehave socially a big issue in america right now it's not about wealthy and poor it's about wealth inequality which has become a
Starting point is 01:12:52 big striking point for a lot of those people right well i think that's it right that's why the point i was going to make is if you go back 200 years what is the saying uh you have better a poor person has better dental care today than roeller did, you know, a hundred or whatever years ago. Technological development. So now poor people have air conditioning. They have refrigeration. They have clean running water. And they have Cheetos.
Starting point is 01:13:14 They have Cheetos. I mean, poor people. America has fat homeless people. Yeah, we have fat homeless people. That's right. Surviving, getting the calories you need to survive is not an issue uh no there's plenty of that right in fact it's an issue that we get too many this country has too much too many calories too many calories we got to get rid of some of those calories but so much of it is is
Starting point is 01:13:36 like look there are large social programs for people who are unable to pay for food who are unable to pay we do take care in a lot of. We do take care in a lot of ways. Our social programs do cover a lot of that, but there's still this large call for discussions about wealth inequality that leads to violence at a lot of these, at least what it seems like to me, right? Like a lot of what we're talking about, it's telling you the millionaires and the billionaires.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Oh, sorry, it's just the billionaires now because Bernie Sanders, he's a millionaire. But yeah, that's the rallying cry. We have this big story that's breaking today about crime. A crime that must be addressed. Breaking. Jamal Bowman to plead guilty to pulling firearm in capital in exchange for charges dropped. $1,000 fine in sweetheart deal.
Starting point is 01:14:19 We got him. There he is. Ladies and gentlemen. We got him. The insurrectionist has been apprehended. mean this was this was 9-11 all over again yeah you know when when he went oh yeah it was worse it was almost as bad as january 6th they're not gonna give you that sweetheart deal if you go you mean january 6th was almost as bad as this yes yeah that's right you know because nobody pulled a fire alarm on january 6th
Starting point is 01:14:42 that's horrific but they were saying that september 11th was not as bad alarm on January 6th. Yeah, nobody did anything. That's horrific. But they were saying that September 11th was not as bad as January 6th. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Oh, there's still people. There's still people that say that. Yeah. Yeah, their argument is
Starting point is 01:14:53 they were subverting democracy. There's people that believe that. Well, Jamal Bowman did. By staying within the velvet ropes. Well, right. This is it. Jamal Bowman says, I am responsible for activating a fire alarm.
Starting point is 01:15:01 I will be paying the fine issued. Yeah, okay. Is it his first offense? Because I think that's fair. I will be paying the fine issued. Yeah, okay. Is it his first offense? Because I think that's fair. Is it? Absolutely. Is it his first offense? I don't know, Tim.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Soft on crime. I don't know about that. Let's face it. What he did is literally an offense against democracy. It actually is. He was trying to stall the vote. He was trying to prevent a vote from taking place in Congress. And it's been treated like a misdemeanor false alarm.
Starting point is 01:15:30 You'd think he was just trespassing in the Capitol. That would be... I remember I was... I would... After January 6th, I would send people pictures of what happened with Kavanaugh, with people inside. And people would be like, oh, that didn't happen? No, no. I'd say like, yes, when this happened, they're like, yes, look how like yes like when this happened they're like yes look how awful that is like yes look how awful that is
Starting point is 01:15:47 yeah you remember when amy schumer like occupied the supreme court and got arrested remember when jane fonda every friday decided to get arrested outside the capitol for climate change and she would like fly her jet in from la so she could sit on the steps of congress and get arrested what a fool these people are but they don't care about the contradictions. I mean, that's the thing about Democrats is they just don't seem to be either aware of the contradictions or they just don't care. They're aware. No, I used to fall into that camp.
Starting point is 01:16:15 If you look at, I always reference the Instagram account Defiant Ls, which always posts the people who contradict themselves, oftentimes just like a day later. I used to be like, look, maybe these people are just dumb. They're not dumb. They're evil. They do not care because, look, what they said first reached a certain amount of people. When they post that second thing that contradicts what they said completely, that reaches a whole other demographic of people.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Maybe 10, 20% of those people see the contradiction, but they're so ideologically captured anyways it doesn't matter. Maybe you change, maybe 5% of those people see the contradiction but they're so ideologically captured anyways it doesn't matter maybe you change maybe five percent of those people see it and say wow i i don't know if i fall in line with that uh that seems like a contradiction but they don't care yeah they're not they're not worried about it it's like what is it it's like hierarchy not uh not hypocrisy it doesn't matter to them yeah if you're if you're a hierarchy hierarchy not hypocrisy what does that mean It means that the people who are committing these hypocrisies, they are sort of blatantly doing it to show you that they're above it, that it doesn't matter that they're being hypocritical.
Starting point is 01:17:15 That truth is malleable. That reality is as they see it, not how you see it. And power is all that matters. And it's like there doesn't need to be a value system. It's just this constant shifting ideological sand, and it doesn't need to, I mean, and it's like, there doesn't need to be a value system if you just, you know, it's just this constant shifting ideological sand. And it doesn't matter where you stand. It doesn't, you can't build anything on it. So they just come up with, what's that?
Starting point is 01:17:33 The goalposts are moving anyways. Yeah, the goalposts are moving anyways. So they, it's like, oh, I scored. Well, the goalposts are over there. Not anymore. Now they're here. I've even heard more insane rationalizations that say, look, if they were to make those contradictions in their personal life with friends and family that would be bad but
Starting point is 01:17:48 in the service of political agenda it's okay because it's in service to maintaining power and the only thing that matters is maintaining power and if that's not the definition of evil I don't know what that's evil well there's a lot of there's a lot of things that I think we could define as evil but for sure that's one of them yeah discover the
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Starting point is 01:19:25 Well, I always wondered, how does this happen? How do you all just start bugging out like that? And think about that now in cities like New York City, where there's so many people congregated in such small space. Like, that's just to me what it is like we've built these cities up so high now that it's like, yes, a large majority of those people may be able to withstand the idea of falling victim to crowd mentality. Right. But you're putting yourself at risk every day by being around it. Well, the thing about New York and crowd mentality is there's ways that you behave within the crowd of New York City that you would never behave somewhere else. Like, you know, where I live now, people say hi to each other.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And in New York, if you said hi to everybody you passed, you'd never get where you were going. You know, you never make eye contact with anybody, which is still something that I do. It's like, I'm never going to make eye contact with strangers because what if they're crazy and then I'm in their line of sight and the next thing you know,
Starting point is 01:20:19 you know, you're a target of the crazy person just because you looked at them. Or they're trying to fundraise for a nonprofit and as soon as you lock eyes, they got that's terrible and like look and not just like if you come from a small town you go to new york city and you do greet someone they don't say hello they say who's this right yeah like why are you talking to me go away you have to get used to the different different social setting one of the things that i always found so interesting about new york is how people's private lives unfold in public.
Starting point is 01:20:46 You know, you'll see somebody just in tears on the subway. People just walk by. And like, no. And, you know, and like there have been times when I've been literally like sobbing on the subway and an old woman will hand me a tissue and be like, are you OK? So we have some breaking updates. CNN is now reporting 16 people have died in Lewiston, Maine with 50 to 60 injuries. They're investigating multiple active shooter events. A suspect remains at large.
Starting point is 01:21:11 We are encouraging all businesses to lock down or close while we investigate. Maine State Police said they're responding to an active shooter situation on Facebook. Please lock your doors. So the concern is it looks like it's multiple areas. This could be one person who's moved to different areas, but some people are concerned it's more than one person. From what I've read in the chat, at least, I know the report said there was Middle Eastern men.
Starting point is 01:21:34 But I don't know if that's... No, there's a photo that was released that could be a person of Middle Eastern descent. I encourage people just to look for these official news sources and then make a determination for yourself. Don't make assumptions about what you think a person looks like. descent. I encourage people to just to look for these official news sources and then make a determination for yourself. Don't make assumptions about what you think a person looks like. Look at the actual photo.
Starting point is 01:21:50 But I'm concerned that there are fake accounts spreading this specifically to fan the flames of a conflict. That could be it. Right, so watch out for that. Hannah Nightingale, who's working on this story right now at Postmillennial,
Starting point is 01:22:03 is from Maine. And she's saying, well, she's's working on this story right now at Post Millennial is from Maine and she's saying well that's she's normally not on this late but if it's a Maine thing she'll come check it out but I was just there
Starting point is 01:22:12 yeah she said that there's never been a mass shooting like this in Maine before there's not a lot of people yeah it's like the biggest city in Maine is what like 40,000 people
Starting point is 01:22:19 yeah it's little it's a little I mean it's a big state with not that many people in it as you just said that's the whole thing. Well, I don't know, man. If you're in Maine, it's safe.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yeah, right? But if Maine isn't safe. But what are the gun laws in Maine? That's why we're in West Virginia, right? West Virginia has its issues too, but at least in West Virginia you can have guns. Right. Can you have guns?
Starting point is 01:22:43 The Maine passed a reckless reckless permitless carry law, says Giffords. I'm just reading it. That's what Giffords says, yeah. That's why I pointed out initially that I'm reading this from the internet. Permitless carry law 2015 that allows residents to carry concealed
Starting point is 01:23:00 without a permit or background check. That's 2A. So, and in 2021, May had the 14th lowest gun death rate. Wow. Interesting. So that's actually pretty interesting. What's Giffords?
Starting point is 01:23:13 I don't even know what that is. That's Gabby Giffords. Oh, that's Gabby Giffords. Oh, right, because she was shot in the head. So, you know, she's worried about gun laws. Makes sense once you're shot in the head, but. Well, she's not. I think she's evil.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Yeah. Because she has armed security guards and gets government protection and then tries to deny it for everyone. Well, she's not. I think she's evil. Yeah. Because she has armed security guards and gets government protection and then tries to deny it for everyone else. So she has guns. They're just being held by other people. What she's actually saying is only we may have cake.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Right. Hierarchy, not hypocrisy. Do the people who protect California politicians have to adhere to California gun laws as far as like magazine size? Usually they... This is how it works right so like in venezuela during the protests if you're if you're on the side of the government you're
Starting point is 01:23:49 getting a full belly every night and that's why they do it everyone else is starving and they tell you you want to be starving with them and protesting go ahead and do it you want a full belly you take the gun you stop them from protesting that when when you like these people who uh protect politicians have restrictions often they have to like they're allowed to carry their gun only while they're on duty but no 10 round mags they're allowed to have a gun at their house or something like that in a lot of states that make it very difficult to do yeah oh and they probably get special benefits like that for sure yeah illinois which was always super restrictive uh but if you're if you're protecting the politicians
Starting point is 01:24:24 you're good then you're all right to do it yeah if. But if you're protecting the politicians, you're good. Then you're all right to do it. Yeah, if you're a cop, you're good. If you're part of the machine and protecting the people in power, you're good. Everyone else... It's all about power. It's always all about just maintaining power. Of course.
Starting point is 01:24:35 You know? Well, yeah. For whatever reason. For whatever reason. I mean, I just don't understand the motivations of these people. I wouldn't want that kind of power. It's amazing how it just always kind of plots out that way. But not everybody has this
Starting point is 01:24:46 mental state. Ambition, drive. No, that's absolutely not it. I have plenty of ambition, but I'm not interested in maintaining power. Ambition doesn't mean killing people for personal gain or causing mass suffering. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:25:01 There are people out there that are just, they revel in causing suffering of others. Yeah, totally. Hence why there's probably a mass shooting right now. That's another evil thing. Wanting to cause harm, wanting to hurt people. Like pulling a fire alarm to stop Congress. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:17 That's horrifying. Evil. How does he live with himself? I think he does just fine. So they're going to drop the charges. I think he should go to jail. I think he should definitely go to jail. He should get community service enough to serve it with Jenna Ellis together.
Starting point is 01:25:32 That's what they should do. Make a reality show about it. Let's talk about evil. Let's do it. From the Daily Mail. Las Vegas teens Jesus Ayala and Yasmir Keyes laugh in court and give the finger to the family of police chief they filmed themselves mowing down and killing. You remember this video?
Starting point is 01:25:49 It's a horror. That went viral. They're laughing in their car filming it and they ram this guy from behind and they're in court and they're laughing about it. Dude, I'm sorry. Evil exists. They're just messing around. They just don't care about anything. All the way outside of the club. As they were being walked out, basically still laughing. Well, they were laughing just sitting there i found yeah i i
Starting point is 01:26:09 don't know how you i mean i think it's important to be able to understand how people get to this point and how this happens but i also think that we've and i think evil of course has always existed i mean you could go back to genesis like it's right there you know um killing your brother for jealous because you're jealous or whatever that happens um but i i do think that we have neglected our you know spiritual life in this country to a certain extent i think that it's not a good thing that we have elevated atheism and that we have expected the, you know, Judeo-Christian moral codes as exemplified by, you know, primarily the Ten Commandments and the Gospel according to Matthew, you know, the Beatitudes there. I think it's a problem that we have expected those things to
Starting point is 01:26:57 survive in public life. We've expected the civil religion that maintains public society to survive while removing God entirely and while removing, you know, the concept of a higher power that will hold you accountable and that will also not just hold you accountable, that will hold you accountable and provide you light and love, you know, and communion with your fellow man. I think that that's a big problem. Like how do you, this is a conversation I've been having with my son a great deal lately, who's studying for his confirmation next year
Starting point is 01:27:31 and definitely says to me things like, I don't know if I believe in God. And I'm like, okay, enjoy your CCD class because we're teaching you this anyway. And I had a very long period of toying with atheism myself until the void was just- Too much? The void was too much.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I could no longer look into that void and step out into the world and look at the sun and be happy about it. But I think that as we have removed God and as we have removed spiritual feelings, we have removed spiritual feelings we have uh eradicated them to the point where it's hard to find them like how are the kids supposed to find god if they never even learn the word i was talking to and then i'm gonna let you talk i just have one more thing i think i was um i was at tp usa, not this past June, but the previous June.
Starting point is 01:28:25 And I was on a panel with Carol Markowitz and Emma Jo Morris. And it was really fascinating. And we were talking about how to maintain your religious traditions and your faith while you're living in essentially New York City where we lived. And a young woman got up and she said, most of us in my generation don't know anything. We know we don't know from God. We don't understand any of this. Instead, when we have a spiritual crisis, we think it's psychological and we go get therapy and we just end up with drugs. So how do you how do you find God if God has been eradicated? And how do you maintain a moral center if there is nothing to ground it? Do you find that religion is, in the time that you've been alive, have you found the decrease in religion here in America to be one of the main calling cards for why society seems to be falling the way it has? Yes. Yeah. cards for why society seems to be falling the way it has yes yeah um i can remember when there was and i think let me make a very important point everyone sort of agreed on the basics of ethical behavior.
Starting point is 01:29:48 But the feeling was, well, we don't have to be so doctrinaire about religious faith. We can, you know, you don't even really need to be religious to acknowledge that killing is bad and, you know, stealing is bad. But it turns out that that's not true. it turns out that that's not true. It turns out that that's not true at all because we see widespread justification of killing and we see stealing. Both of those are both highly justified now in society. Right, right. And this is something that I discussed, and in fact I discussed it at length with our mutual friend on the Shamercast.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Shamcast. After we met here when you were pretending to be sick so you could skip work. It is extremely difficult because he's an Orthodox Catholic and I'm an Orthodox Jew. And we were talking about you know, we might all agree
Starting point is 01:30:55 as a completely objective sociological observation that societies that do have religious faith are more stable and there might be aspects of it. But what do you do if people have lost their faith? As an entire society.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Inquisition. Well, you know, that didn't really necessarily work. I mean, you know. Oh, I was kidding. No, you know, if, I was kidding. No, you know, if it worked, then we would have to, you know, but actually, remember, the main issue with the Inquisition was
Starting point is 01:31:31 identifying Jews who pretended to be converts. But you can't even really talk about orthodoxy anymore. In other words, we're in a post-orthodoxy world unless you live in a subculture, as I do, in which we have created our own governing mores. And it's not perfect and it's not entirely always consistent.
Starting point is 01:31:57 But because of the extent of liberty that Americans are permitted and most people in the West are permitted, we can do that. And we have our own internal governance systems and our own rabbinical courts for civil disputes. And again, everything doesn't click the way it necessarily ought to. But what can you do to an entire society that doesn't even have that feeling. Because Libby, you identified, you'd reached a point in your life when you said this, I'm going to paraphrase you now,
Starting point is 01:32:36 this can't be what it's all about. This, we're just an arbitrary fart of the universe. There must be meaning. There must be the universe. There must be meaning. There must be a reason and there must be truth. There must be somewhere that love comes from was also what I was thinking. And you still had resonating in you a family tradition of where to look to recover the methodology and the language
Starting point is 01:33:09 and the thinking of what the answers to these questions were. So my friend Yoram Hazony writes in his books about conservatism and national conservatism, it is a legitimate thing for people to look to the faith of their ancestors. People think, well, how do you know Judaism? If you would have been born in... I wasn't. I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:33:34 I just know that the people that I respect and the tradition and the culture that I look to my ancestors toward, and I see people who were older than I, they are a product of a tradition that is entitled to a presumption of validity for me because I am myself also a product of that. That's very hard for Americans to get onto because Americans have this admirable quality
Starting point is 01:34:09 of questioning everything and being skeptical and show me state, I'm from Missouri, you know. And it turns out that those are good exercises to participate in, but if you don't have a base at which you say, this is never permitted. And also, you know, there's such a lack of understanding of basic theological concepts that have been treated at great length for thousands of years. And people go to college and they think they've got these really clever answers to great theological questions, and they don't. And they think it's really a good question.
Starting point is 01:34:59 So you think God really cares whether you eat bacon or not? I do. And you know why? Because God has the capacity to care about everything at once. He's not limited like you are by trying to multitask. He's God. And it would be great if, you know, there probably are people who do this, if people could get a basic theological education and just understand if they want to be skeptics what they're being skeptical of. It's a real hard task. What are the ramifications for defying God in Judaism? In traditional Judaism, there are several kinds of punishments
Starting point is 01:35:48 that are discussed in the Torah one is that if you you can be punished by an earthly court for knowingly violating God's law. Now, you can also, in the time of the temple, you know, the great temple of Palestine in Jerusalem, that you would bring a sacrifice. You'd have to bring a sacrifice because, you know, that's laid out in the Bible as, how you atone for a sin. You have to go through the trouble of buying an animal and having it, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:30 and it doesn't have to be a big old cow. It could be a bird. It could even just be meal if you're a poor person. You need to say to God, I'm making a donation. I am paying a penalty. And I want... What if you don't?
Starting point is 01:36:47 If you don't, then... Your question really is... More spiritual, not physical. Right. So you can be punished in this world, which is considered to be a good scenario. In other words, you would rather be punished in this world by afflictions
Starting point is 01:37:03 than have your punishment await you in the next world because there's no limitation to what suffering you can experience in the next world. But is this the same notion of heaven and hell? Essentially. Essentially it is. I mean, there are, you know, and there's a lot of, I will tell you that the traditional Jewish thinking on this as reflected in the Talmud, and this is going to get your live chat going because they love words like that, the rabbis are absolutely comfortable with the idea
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Starting point is 01:38:53 Ontario. You can be deprived of the opportunity to be resurrected if you are guilty of certain kinds of sins. Which would be, you know, that would be pretty bad. But then there's, you know, there's a soul. The soul is not the body.
Starting point is 01:39:10 The soul is not you. It's not some, you know, it's not some magnetic force or something. It is a godly essence that is placed within you. And you can suffer in this world. You can suffer in the next world. Very, you know, much more complex stuff than people would think. And it is reflected in Christianity. It's reflected certainly in the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 01:39:35 It was founded by rabbinical students, and they knew what they were talking about. We're going to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com click join us become a member because that member members only uncensored show will be up in about half an hour you don't want to miss it we're gonna be taking your calls from uh from our members but let's uh let's read you got grofty with the first super chat saying buck buck and that's it joshua french says not first. You were correct.
Starting point is 01:40:06 You are not first. Nope. I'm not your guy. Friend says not today, Clint. But unfortunately, you are third. All right. Shane H. Wilder says I feel good about Mike Johnson.
Starting point is 01:40:15 His report card seems pretty outstanding that and if Adam Schiff hates him, he must be doing something. I also love that people were like people on Twitter were like sharing like Mike Johnson super cuts. I'm like, did you Twitter were like sharing like Mike Johnson super cuts. I'm like, did you guys just have these ready to go? Who's making like these like... Probably Ed. To be fair, there are people,
Starting point is 01:40:32 I mean, I will whip out a GIF in 90 seconds. If the occasion strikes me, if you have the software on the phone and you know how to do it and you would rather play hooky and you know and stay up late to finish your homework as i would guys at work his boss is like gotta get the work done he's like i'm making this mike johnson super cut can you hold on he's like who the hell is mike johnson leroy hall says can you shout out
Starting point is 01:40:59 my wife trina halls give send go please she's sick with systemic scleroderma that is advancing fast. Thank you and God bless y'all. Well, shout out. I hope things work out for you. Does it say what was the name? Trina Hall. Trina Hall. T-R-I-N-A.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Give, Send, Go. The Emperor's Champions is not first, I know, but I highly recommend the book What Justice Demands by Ilan Jerno. It's a well-researched in-depth objective look into the israel palestine conflicts i can't recommend it more i read a decent bit about uh the history of the region today the problem is you read this and then you ask someone who's pro-palestine and say that's all fake that never happened and you're like i don't tell you man you know there you go andrew russ says i'm still salty tim didn't like the latest dune it's game of thrones in space it is game of thrones in space
Starting point is 01:41:52 that takes four hours of dead air to get to the point look i'll be like we went that night and and we left early right we walked out of we walked out of here like i i i would have been fine saying i ended up watching it later on HBO Max. And I didn't hate it as much as you did, but I don't mind the slow burn as much. And Denis Villeneuve is one of my favorite directors working. Slow burn. It's very slow burn.
Starting point is 01:42:15 And then there's no ending. It's like, well, we're going to be making another one. I understand that I've got the bias because the director is one of those directors whose work is one that I really like. But also just the fact that that's the project he'd wanted to direct like his whole life
Starting point is 01:42:29 so I had a little bit of bias there but I am sad that they delayed part two because I actually do hope to see it in the theaters and supposedly it will be at least a little bit shorter well it works at home you just fast forward you just skip skip skip skip skip skip I just I watch a movie like that that's shot that beautifully and I can seeing it on the big screen is just there are a handful of shows
Starting point is 01:42:48 where it's like i'm glad it's on netflix because it starts off really good and then as it gets weaker i just i find myself skipping netflix is the worst for that like they they made this movie this benicio del toro movie called reptile that i just watched and it was what is it about? It's this awful crime drama where it's like he's investigating the murder of the girlfriend of some type of real estate developer played by Justin
Starting point is 01:43:15 played by Justin Timberlake and it's just it's even slower than what you described as Dune but like almost comic yes oh he's not he acts too have you tried watching bodies no you heard it right yeah i couldn't do it i'm hearing like oh this new show on netflix is so good and then i'm like play and then within five minutes i was like well that was dumb and turned it off netflix has got a very low hit rate lately other
Starting point is 01:43:39 than the the bigger ones lately the look they don't miss on everything, but like, yeah, like when they try to do the, any of the stuff they've done with their spy thrillers, the one with Gal Gadot, really, really bad.
Starting point is 01:43:52 The ones they did with the Russo brothers, really, really bad. Not good. Ben Hancock says, question for Tim, do you read all of the super chats after the show or only the ones that you read live?
Starting point is 01:44:02 If your question is, after we close out the show, do I sit there and then go through every single super if your question is after we close out the show do i sit there and then go through every single super chat the answer is no once the show wraps up we do the members only show and then i go to sleep we however on pop culture crisis do read all the super chats and if it keeps us late it keeps us late and uh yeah it's gonna go later and later no it does it does his audience they also do a thing where like, if I look like I want to go, they start super chatting more just to keep me there.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Don't they keep you there? Like every super chat keeps you there another 10 minutes. Depends on how much like, but the problem is by the end, I'm like, so out of it. I'm like starting to slur my words because my blood sugar has absolutely collapsed and I need to eat. So they get a huge kick out of watching me suffer. It's fantastic. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:44:44 So there is evil in the world. There is evil in the world. And it's in your super watching me suffer. It's fantastic. Oh, wow. So there is evil in the world. There is evil in the world. And it's in your super chat. Exactly. It's fantastic. And we love them for it. All right. What do we have?
Starting point is 01:44:53 The text vet says, Johnson said in his acceptance speech, the first thing to be done is to give money to Israel. Yeah, that's what I saw. I thought that was what happened. And so it's a question of- I thought he said to support Israel. Did he actually say to give money to Israel?
Starting point is 01:45:09 Well, he probably said to provide support for Israel, but it's the same thing, right? I suppose. I guess it might be a euphemism for giving money, yeah. It's a bigger question about are we going to be funding escalation of war? Are we going to be providing support in the form of like iron dome batteries which we've already done so i think the bigger concern is are we driving
Starting point is 01:45:33 ourselves towards world war three or greater regional conflict at you know how about we balance the budget how about we secure our southern border i like and all foreign sure yeah and there's that meme there's a meme where it's uh it's the the woe jack who's like all depressed looking and it's janet yellen saying we can afford two wars and he's like i just want health care it's the yeah or it's it's like it's like uh ukraine uh israel and then and then the american people are just underwater in the meme yeah yep all right where are we at jack the ripper says american jewish people utilize that second amendment buy arms and munitions and train be safe get out of those
Starting point is 01:46:11 garbage cities that's what i was saying too like i love it when you know the left is like uh there's the meme of the white guy and the black guy and and it's the it's like the chad wojaks and he's like nice gun the black guy's like nice gun you want to go shoot and they're like yeah and then they're both shooting together and, nice gun. The black guy's like, nice gun. You want to go shoot? And they're like, yeah. And then they're both shooting together and then the leftist is like, no, you're supposed to be racist. They were just shooting guns together.
Starting point is 01:46:32 We went to the shooting range and there was like people of all different backgrounds there. There was a couple of black guys and there were some Middle Eastern guys and there was a bunch of white guys and everyone was laughing, had a good time
Starting point is 01:46:41 and pointing at the guns and high-fiving and I'm like, see, this is diversity, right? Joining together in great enjoyment of firing guns and they brought in a fully automatic one and people started like, it was so much fun. Shot on Saturday, first time in five years.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Horror. No, horror. Just like they say, you don't use it, you lose it. Yeah. I am not particularly good with handguns. I think the best I was able to do at like 30 yards was two out of seven. Yeah. I am not particularly good with handguns. I think the best I was able to do at like 30 yards was two out of seven. Yeah. But with the various long guns, like my accuracy was very, very good.
Starting point is 01:47:10 But admittedly, very easy to, you know, relative to like handguns harder. Like we were shooting, I was like, I don't remember the nine millimeter having this much kick. Depends on the one you're using, I guess. Yeah. All right. Where are we at? A Green Clover says, Biggest issue facing Europe is the ammunition shortage.
Starting point is 01:47:31 In conventional warfare, UK has one week. France has four days. And Germany has two days. Wow. Okay, but... Meanwhile, Russia has been building its reserves of ammo and military industrial complex. Interesting. Camgirl Asuna says,
Starting point is 01:47:46 Libby, one ship was damaged by an Iranian mine once in the 80s and was later repaired. In response, Reagan sent a task force that ended up sinking or disabling half of Iran's navy
Starting point is 01:47:56 in a mere eight hours. Got it. Woo. Good times. That's what I call nice disproportionate attacks. Stay away from the U.S. Yes. Thrust McTrunkpunch says, what i call nice disproportionate attacks stay the surge stay away from the u.s yes thrust mctrunk punch says on the iran dinghy in response to the dinghy being sunk our navy
Starting point is 01:48:13 destroyed half of iran in eight hours iran's in eight hours they claimed it was proportional response i think that's a disproportionate response but doesn't it make sense to have a disproportionate response because doesn't it like keep winning people away from you like if you like no the whole proportionality thing is complete like stay the hell away donald trump was always about like hey if you do that i'm going to nuke you and it's like that is a disproportionate response and it's a little crazy but listen the thing about trump is he's a little crazy that's what i'm saying that keeps us good and safe because you know what you don't do you don't mess with the crazy guy on the corner you don't look him in the eye you just stay away
Starting point is 01:48:53 and you hope you don't get shot that's what i like about trump elegant news says russia started modernizing its nuclear and conventional weapons starting in 2000 they have completed 89 by 2020 don't underestimate the bear there you go oh well i just want to keep the country safe and the border closed and then we're good mr nobody says tim did you have world war three on your october surprise bingo card mean tweets were better than this in every conceivable way yeah steve mcgee says nazi schweinhund or in german nazi says what luke says what schweinhund means pig dog yes they were they were calling him a nazi pig it means like bastard yep they were insulting him for no reason literally no reason luke is walking down the street and some guy just points at him
Starting point is 01:49:42 and called him a nazi did they recognize him nope i have no i i well it's possible but unlikely considering random people just started hitting him yeah so uh there something did happen where there was a photo of uh well i i don't want to say too much because it involves other people's private security so i'll keep it i'll i'll keep the general story out of it. But the general idea that Luke published was that he was walking with a German journalist and this guy, Max, and then someone just yelled Nazi, Nazi Schweinhund. And so it's the craziest thing. I'm like, why did that guy started hitting you? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Guy just really hated wearechanged.org. But think about what this means. If you go to, if, if, if, if like, let's say a right-wing person dresses up like Antifa goes to an antifa rally and then just starts pointing at a random guy saying that's that's john smith like literally adeleptus rally make up a name chad firthington but that's chad firthington dude he's a nazi i don't know if that would work at antifa because i think that they're actually extremely well organized it'll work do you think so absolutely i think they're well organized too
Starting point is 01:50:45 but i also you're not gonna pull it off in a group of seven antifa in a group of 500 they'll just start mercilessly beating whoever gets pointed at maybe you're right they'll what'll happen is they'll be like hey bro who are you what's going on man who are you like someone will walk up after hearing that and then start pushing the guy and being like show me your phone show me like and the guy's gonna be like dude i'm not a nazi but like he's a nut and then they just it's just it's an avalanche it's i've like like i mentioned watch the videos out of san jose from like 2015-16 of people just chasing each other through the streets i watched them beat elderly people they'll just that's just the way it goes so nuts they'd all like at occupy walsh or like every march something like that happened
Starting point is 01:51:22 someone would just run up and hit somebody because someone accused them. I remember when that was happening. I did not go to Occupy. Yeah. I was home with my kid. For a couple of years, I had no idea what was going on because I just had a small child. It was lovely. Someone want to pull up the latest data on what's going on in Lewiston?
Starting point is 01:51:39 So it's 22 and they have, Hannah's covering this. Confirmed dead, right? Yeah, 22 confirmed dead and they released a picture of the car. Is it a maroon SUV? No, it's a little hatchback. Okay. And that's the thing. Because that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 01:51:53 The people who are saying maroon SUV in Middle Eastern may have been fake. And if they're saying it's not that, then likely someone was putting out fake information. Right. But I will say, you know, the description of the man is have you seen the photographs yeah i just saw those now swarthy is that the description uh not i wouldn't describe the person as white they appear on the surveillance photos to be potentially of middle eastern hispanic you know like slightly darker skin but if he's hispanic that would be white adjacent yes he can be a Spanish.
Starting point is 01:52:25 I'm just trying to describe a guy who's a mass shooter. I'm not trying to make a joke. You know, like, I'm just saying like, in terms of politics, like, might be Middle Eastern.
Starting point is 01:52:34 There's a press conference coming up. Right. They said that the police, I think, Chief of Police. But they have not caught the guy. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I think he's still at large. JJ Rode, road sorry there's a thing on the screen says how long has tim been police has released the suspect's name apparently whoa and what is it robert card robert card yeah well how are we supposed to figure out what ethnicity that is now to i don't know really everyone everyone's trying to generate you know everyone wants to get their their politics and i mean i I don't, it's unconfirmed. JJ Wood says, Tim. No, police have released that name.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Sorry. They did not police release that name? Police have released the suspect's name as Robert Card. What's the source on that? Raw Alerts. But I don't know if that's accurate. Right. Yeah, because it's Raw Alerts.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Raw Alerts may be accurate. We use them periodically for some things. A press conference. Yeah, I tend to grab them and then go digging for what they said yeah and i and i find them like that but ross alerts i find to actually line up properly with with other official news reporting it's it's hard to know who to trust i mean no disrespect to ross alerts i'm not familiar uh too much uh jj wrote says tim pool crowder shapiro all going gray uh when did we all get so old uh gradually and then suddenly i have never an incremental evil is what it is aging and the
Starting point is 01:53:53 only thing is the alternative i thought it was people don't know this about ron but he's always looked this way even when he was 15 even when i didn't look this way i looked well i've heard like with aging a lot of it's like it's like you feel like you don't age like year by year it's like you look the same for like five years and then one year you age a bunch all at once yeah and and people are asking about me i am part asian which means there will come a period where one day i'll just be hunched over and small that's the meme that's the meme well you know what's amazing is i'm 60 years old and i thought by this age i would already sound like this well that's what happens you know when my brother was my brother is uh is korean and um when he was like 16 i used to uh is my dad listening i used to take him
Starting point is 01:54:39 i used to take him to clubs in new york and take him out with my friends and my friends would be like oh which one of you is the older sibling? And I'd be like, oh, my God, I'm literally 12 years older than my brother. And he'd be like, I'm Asian, so you don't know. And then he'd go hit on my friends. And I'd be like, oh, my God. My friends are 25, and here's my little brother. And he's like, he had game.
Starting point is 01:55:01 It was impressive. Well, when I was a freshman, I had a beard. I've always been robust in that way. And if you're 18 and you can grow a full beard, you grow a full beard. And I remember I was moving into my dorm and some upperclassman was in there and says, can you believe all the freshmen moving in here?
Starting point is 01:55:24 And I was like, in here you know yeah you know all right we got a bunch of people uh we got a bunch of people posting about uh lewiston main situation developing a lot of super chats thanks for uh posting will says a swastika was drawn inside bates college in lewiston lewiston bathroom a few days ago graduated from bates a few years ago leftist haven crazy administration and faculty none of this surprises me yeah how does the media end up covering it then does it get pivoted to talk about gun crime you know here's the thing normally i'd say if this guy turns out to in any other circumstance if this guy was a leftist who was acting on this, it'd be covered up in moments.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Like we saw with, was it Covington Catholic? And was it? You mean Nashville? Nashville. Nashville. I don't think it was Covington. No, Covington was the. Right.
Starting point is 01:56:17 I totally confused those. Yeah, that was the kid. I forget the name of the Nashville school. You want to look up the Nashville one? Yeah, I will look it up. But considering, if it turns out this was a leftist motivated by Israel-Palestine, they absolutely will release the news on this. Covenant. Covenant.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Covenant. That's why you thought, yeah, Covington, because it's very similar. If it turns out this guy is motivated by the Israel-Palestine conflict, and it was pro-Palestine, they will release this in two seconds. I am not suggesting that it is i am not saying that there's evidence to suggest it is i'm saying if in the you know whatever astronomical chance it was they would be like you see we're at risk we have to go to war blah blah blah yeah we have to go with to war with maine with iran they'd say iran did it these are
Starting point is 01:57:01 the iranian militias that That proves it. There you go. Well, there is a press conference coming up. When? Let's see. I'm Beth, Beth Bish, who's doing social media right now. It's like sharing stuff. Well, we'll read some more superchats. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Gaming Entity says veterans who are younger, female, and LGBTQ are reporting more mental health issues. Study finds. Interesting. Interesting. Cheris says, dare you to have Norman Finkelstein or Abby Martin? I don't understand why you would say dare you to have. I don't I don't I don't get that. Like as if we don't constantly invite people on the left to come on the show.
Starting point is 01:57:44 We had Max Blumenthal on the show last week. It was a fantastic conversation. And there's literally five shows a week. Plus the Culture War. There's a lot of show to have people on. We have a big Culture War this Friday. Yeah. Yeah, very big. Who's on it?
Starting point is 01:57:58 I guess we should just say it. It's Wednesday. Cenk Uygur. Oh, wow. Yeah, coming on Culture War war just me and him we're gonna talk it's gonna be great you can ask him about the dogs but the dogs yeah the dogs wasn't he the dogs the dogs wasn't he the one talking about how it should be okay to have sex with your dog with your horse i am not okay uh if he brings it up they all have i i would like to have a
Starting point is 01:58:22 situation where he brings it up he's like and by the way i want to get this out there right now options are opening up they might not have been available for him he's driving this is exactly what i'm trying to avoid if we're going to have a real conversation where he's going to address the stance he takes on his show the politics of today what he what he thinks this country should or shouldn't be doing, and the fact that he has a massive audience to do it. We should have a real conversation, not bring up some stupid comment he made 10 years ago as like a WWE, haha, I gotcha. So definitely not. I'm glad that he's coming. We've invited him on the show numerous times for a long time, and he's agreed to come on, and it's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 01:59:03 And I guess someone said he announced it on his show but no one was really talking about it and you know whatever we have a poster you know me and him and we're just gonna we're gonna talk and i wonder how long the conversation will go but i imagine it'll go for a while i've known the guy for a long time and uh should be interesting that'll be cool but yeah in terms of like abby martin or anybody, the answer is yes. Well, whatever. That's kind of the point. We have this culture war show and shout out to Tenet Media.
Starting point is 01:59:36 The culture war is moving over to Tenet, which has a bunch of really awesome people involved. I don't know if you guys saw the announcement. There's Benny Johnson, Dave Rubin, Lauren Southern, Tyler Hansen. Is it Southern, Tyler Hansen. Is it Tyler? Taylor Hansen. Why did I say Tyler?
Starting point is 01:59:51 I'm like, I missed a letter in his name for whatever reason. But yeah, really, really cool stuff. I can elaborate more on later, but the culture war is moving to Tenet. And there's some good reasons for it. Maybe we'll elaborate a little bit more on the members only, but we'll read some more super chats from now. Do you know when that press conference is? It's up right now. It's not the press conference yet.
Starting point is 02:00:07 It's basically people talking while they wait for the press conference. So maybe we'll have that in the members segment. We'll try to get up as soon as we can. But yeah, really cool stuff. Friday is going to be really, really awesome. I'm glad to have Cenk. And I hope we have a calm, legitimate conversation. When we had Brianna Wu on,
Starting point is 02:00:23 I thought that it was very very calm and interesting there were a lot of people like how could you be so patient or whatever and i was like i thought brianna was uh was very polite and then afterward uh brianna played poker with us and enjoyed sushi it was very it was good it's excellent i hope that uh jenks sticks around and hangs out with everybody and i'm sure he's actually got people who uh at some point were big fans and maybe in recent time with the shift in politics don't really watch him anymore but i think it'll be a very good conversation i think he's gonna find that a lot of people here completely agree with him on like
Starting point is 02:00:53 60 of his positions and then the more tribal culture war stuff is where people where he loses a lot of people and in terms of our crew because i imagine he's gonna say something like we shouldn't be going to war and blah blah we're like yes really yes that's absolutely right yeah let's unify on those grounds that's why it was great when max came because it's like hey look we may disagree on all these things but if we agree on like stopping there's these foreign invasions and this this war stuff then that's what we should focus on and then worry about the other stuff and i'm like i agree let's win where we we all agree we want to win Greg Kerr says Tim we are still raising funds for the Cumberland
Starting point is 02:01:27 skate park can we get you guys up there when we finally get it open next year yes who's building it we should talk about who's building it we're big fans of the Spahn Ranch guys so you know where's Cumberland
Starting point is 02:01:42 Cumberland is like well like an hour west of here okay it's a little oh it's an awesome little town yeah it's in it's in the the panhandle of maryland or whatever they call it it's a cool place i went to a coin shop there and that's where i got the the coin from uh for seamus that was the same currency used by saint casper yeah we want to believe it was one of the ones used by St. Casper. We don't know that. It's like a little ancient coin from... And you would expect to find that in Awesome Town in Maryland. You know...
Starting point is 02:02:14 You never know. If God wants it to be there, it could be there. The collector's shop actually had a bunch of really cool stuff. I mean, they had Confederate money. We have that banknote right there. Yeah, I was thinking about that. Yeah, it's a pre-Fed reserve banknote that comes from that same that same collector shop and we got confederate money and we got old banknotes cool place and i got i got a
Starting point is 02:02:33 silver coin from ancient greece that's like rated at like 9.5 or whatever it is in that's crazy they they didn't they had very little precision so So it's like an oddly shaped metal disc they stamp. Yeah. Oh, it's in the closet. I'll pull it out in a second. We will grab it and we'll show it off. Super cool stuff. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:53 So we got a lot of super chats just talking about Maine, which that press conference is coming up. We'll talk about it. All right. Ramo says, I hear a lot about Julian Assange, but have you forgotten about Schaefer Cox? If you haven't heard of him, please look into him. He's been in a black site prison for decades now for fighting for what's right i'm not familiar you know i i i i did this thing earlier where i talked about jen alice and
Starting point is 02:03:13 julian assange andrew clavin said that you know he thinks it's funny i'm paraphrasing that all these people think they would be great heroes and stand up against injustice because jenna ellis took this plea agreement and my response is just like i feel like it's a cop out you know which is a cop out what andrew claven is saying jenna ella like oh these little boys he said little boys in capes think they're fighting monsters something like that because jenna ellis took this plea agreement and all these people are talking big like they'd be some great martyrs and i'm like yeah maybe half of I'm like, yeah, maybe half of them would. I don't know. Maybe half of them wouldn't. Maybe some people are talking big game.
Starting point is 02:03:47 But then I said, look at Julian Assange, who's like they're effectively executing in solitary confinement for 10 years with fake charges. And now everything's going on because he refuses to compromise WikiLeaks. And so if you tell me who am I going to look up to and who am i going to criticize this one's really obvious jenna ellis was either lying the whole time in support of trump which she admits to so maybe that's the case or she was doing her constitutional duty in defending her client and and a candidate in a challenge to the election which they they they believe was was a constitutional challenge in which case it's her duty to do and she decided to betray her duty in this country so pick one julian assange will not
Starting point is 02:04:31 give up his sources no matter what even though they've basically they're slow slow they're it's a slow roll execution of them so i'll i'll i'll leave it there and we'll uh we'll grab a couple more okay what do we got well no just people commenting on Lewiston main a lot of super chats the story's getting wilder as minutes go by is there any more developments people are I mean there's a lot of speculation I don't know if I want to say anything
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