Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #891 US Announces Troop Deployment To Middle East, Israel INVADES GAZA w/Grace Chong

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, Shane Cashman, & Serge join Grace Chong to discuss US Troops being deployed to the middle east, the harmful impact TikTok is having on American culture, a RoboTaxi hitting a pedestrian and dragging them, & new evidence proving Jamal Bowman intentionally pulling a fire alarm. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The U.S. has announced we will be deploying more troops to the Middle East. We've already got a large amount, 19,000 personnel already in the Mediterranean. We've got another 2,000 Marines that are poised to go. And the Pentagon is saying 900 more troops have already deployed or are deploying. So I hope you all are ready for what's to come. Israel previously agreed to delay their invasion of Gaza to allow the U.S. to prepare missile batteries, Patriot missile and THAAD missile systems. And now we've got reporting Israel has invaded Gaza. So I hope you're ready for what comes next.

Now, interestingly, the official reporting is saying, no, no, they have not yet invaded Gaza. They've just sent a bunch of tanks in to start targeting Hamas targets and killing Hamas leaders with tanks in Gaza. So the tanks are going in, but it's not an invasion. And I'm just like, yo, if having a bunch of tanks go into this territory and kill people is not an invasion, then what's happening on the southern border is not an invasion. Okay, yeah, this is what's happening. But they're trying to be careful about what they call it for PR reasons. People are probably going to get really mad about that.'ll talk about that plus we got a bunch more uh news

as of right now police have surrounded the suspect in the main shooting they've surrounded the home they've announced to come out this is all developing so we'll we'll give us a little time to see what's going on with the story and then a new video of jamal bowman oh boy the video shows him intentionally removing the warning signs from the door, pulling the fire alarm, and running away. Yeah, this is much more than just I accidentally pulled the fire alarm. Now, he's already pleaded guilty, but it looks like the actions he's taken appear to be more felony territory than anything. We'll get into that. Before we get started, head over to castbrew.com and buy Cast Brew Coffee.

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And right now it's just been so difficult because you have a general line and you have to like talk to a switchboard. But we created an app where it's a list of all your representatives, your senators based on your location. If you want to take turn off the location part, you can look up any state, any representative, and it's all in one app. You can also click on their website to email them. And this is just another tool for us to just really hound them and to make sure that the representatives hear their constituents. Did you say the name of it yet? Oh, it's called Build Blaster. Right now, it is only available on Apple. It was a passion project that was created by myself and my friend who will remain nameless because he's in the tech industry and, you know, the whole cancel culture thing. But this is just a tool because it actually started when the debt ceiling, Steve Bannon, my boss, he wanted me to like put all these lists together of who voted yes and no.

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happy to be here with my friend Shane Cashman. What's up? I'm Shane Cashman, a big fan of War Room. I was reporting in East Palestine and I chased a guy who was in a screaming match at the local authorities there. And when I followed him, I wound up at a bar and in that bar, I looked over his shoulder and Steve Bannon was there. And I was like, hey, it's nice to see some other people reporting on that town that people have forgotten about. But I write books. I write the the inverted world series and uh if you're feeling in the halloween mood i've got the inverted world book from this recent year i publish it early this year in february or march and that's me looking for confederate gold getting threatened by men who are dating a coven of witches and uh get into ufos right on and i'm serge.com just want to tell you guys to cheer for South Africa against England in the upcoming finals of the Rugby World Cup.

And that's all, Tim. We're never ready. All right. Here's the story from CNN. Pentagon says 900 U.S. troops have deployed or are deploying to Middle East amid heightened tension. So just a few days out from Halloween. And we have not even prepared our Halloween party. But don't worry.

We don't need much. All we'll have to do is put on CNN and a bunch of other news outlets and just have them run continuous news coverage of how the U.S. is about to enter a massive regional conflict, which could bleed out into World War III. The one thing I can say is that

whereas this is getting crazy, what's going on in the Middle East, it seems like Ukraine's dying down. Yeah, what's that? You know, so maybe... So Linsky will tell you all about it. Do not worry. Maybe it won't be World War III

because everyone kind of forgot Ukraine's happening. Yeah. And that's, you know, gone. But at the same time, as we're seeing these deployments, we have this from... This is... No, The Guardian is also talking about U.S. deployment.

But we have this from Fox News. Israeli forces conduct tank raid in Gaza ahead of expected invasion. I am not going to play these stupid doublespeak games with you. You do not have video even of tanks storming through the border and killing people and blowing things up and say, we didn't invade yet. That's quite, quite literally you invaded. Now they're trying to make this distinction likely because they want to downplay their actions. And we know when the word gets out, it's not like any foreign country cares about what we call it. This is for the American people. They don't want the American people to hear Israel has invaded

Gaza, U.S. deploys troops to the region. So they say, no, no, no, there's no invasion yet. Just a tank raid. The tanks are just going for a walk. They need to stretch their legs, test out their wheels. It's not a big deal. It's not an invasion. Stop asking us questions. It's an incursion.

They know once the American people hear words like World War III, there's no coming back. And I think the media is afraid to define it as such. Although I also think they want it. I think a lot of people in media do want this war. They need their casus belli before the escalation. If World War III keeps getting repeated over and over again, and we hear about troop deployments, and there's no justification for it,

people are going to reject it. It's going to poison poison the well so that's why they got to downplay the language and make it seem like nothing's happening it's just you know things are getting tense then when u.s forces are attacked or there's some kind of terror attack or something happens they can then say now we've invaded do you think to a certain extent they also want to normalize it they want people in yeah in the u.s to think oh well our troops are already there of course they're there they had look at syria yeah does anybody remember the point at which we entered syria and started building military bases no but then they could run the headline american military base bombed or whatever it was all all of a sudden donald trump's like oh yeah we've had troops in syria we're getting them out we're like wait what

really we were there yeah we were there yeah we're getting our troops out. And they lied about that, too. They don't want the American people to know. This is the craziest thing, that there are secret wars going on. And this is 10 years ago. What was going on in Yemen was described as a secret war. The American people did not know it was happening. And it's still happening. And now Syria and all these countries, I think, I wonder if they realized, hey, we don't need

to generate public support if we just don't tell them it's happening. Yeah, yeah. You realized hey we don't need to generate public support if we just don't tell them it's happening yeah yeah you know just don't write no no once you just tell them we're already doing it people expect that it's normal right if they're used to seeing the headlines they don't care and that's what i think is the most frustrating thing about the 24-hour news cycle it's not that we don't need to have it of course with the internet you have to keep up on the other hand everything becomes information overload. So you're used to seeing American troops in places that you didn't expect them because by the time you wake up in the morning, 45 stories have been written about it. There's no way to just say like, oh, wait,

this is getting normalized. Right. Yeah. When I walked in the room just now and I asked you guys, what are we starting with? I had been on another show for an hour and I, you know, the world can change in the hour. you're like oh we've in our the israel's invaded god's like oh wow yeah and that's how i feel when i fly now i get an airplane i'm afraid to come down you know i'm like what will the world look like when i land um well i mean the internet on airplanes is pretty good these days i never get it i actually i never get why i get work i get work done i get to write yeah i do i have two. I have two loud kids, and I get my office space up in the air. But yeah.

I mean, when I'm flying, I'm online. That's what I do. I'm tracking the news. Yeah, I'm a caveman. I kind of, sometimes it's nice to be able to plug in. Like when we were flying to Miami, I was transcribing an interview I had done, and that way I couldn't open four or five tabs. You know what I mean?

Because it's easy. Transcribing. I'm 100 years old, Tim. What can I say? No, it's just like the worst job ever i know the worst thing but like occasionally there's things that you're thinking if i just buckle down and do this it will be great but the mainstream media doesn't i mean and the same thing with social media right they need you to constantly be checking your apps they need you want the notifications they need you to be hooked up to the dopamine and in some ways the

way this news cycle is working i'm sure everyone can point to something it reminds me a lot of the beginning of covid right right? Every five seconds That's their business model. Right. You're checking constantly for updates on where you're allowed to go. Do you remember that during COVID, there were states where you couldn't travel from another state? That was such a bizarre time and so you were constantly looking for new information.

Weren't there checkpoints between New York and Connecticut? That's crazy. There's like full tests to go to Hawaii. A lot of tests. There was that woman who got arrested because she flew to Hawaii and then filmed herself like walking around and they were like, you didn't quarantine and get tested and stuff. They almost didn't let me in the room to see my daughter be born. I had to handcuff myself almost to my wife. This was one of my opening stories to Shane.

He was like, yeah, I brought handcuffs and I wasn't going to go anywhere. I was going to handcuff myself to the bed. There was no way. Yeah, I was ready. Wow. Dude, I'm- And then she was the only one who had to get, your wife was the only one was going to handcuff myself to the bed. There was no way there. Yeah, I was ready. Wow, dude. And then she was the only one who had to get your wife was the only one to get COVID tested. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And I had a governor who was a mass murderer. We can get into that later. But speaking about speaking about like the news and missing it for an hour, like last time I was on IRL last week, it was when the hospital was supposedly bombed. Right. Oh, yeah. Within that first hour, there were multiple realities about that. Or last night, I'm watching the main thing unfold

with the shooter and there's people sharing multiple videos that aren't true or pictures of people that aren't the suspect. So it's almost like it doesn't matter what happens in an hour because in that first hour of news breaking, there's a distortion of all this noise and no one knows the truth. And probably for the next few weeks too,

until we know more. Sometimes I like the first hour after a story has broken because just the bare minimum details are coming out and it gives you something to build off of because by the time the identity of whoever's involved or the total numbers of death or these kinds of tragic details that are incredibly important to report accuracy, by the time those are out, there's already a slant and you can see the way it's being bent. It's funny because I typically say, when I was teaching journalism, I like to tell the students, your best source for information is the stuff that's closest to the event. So like in Maine, you know, it's who's there. But then thinking of what's going on in Gaza and Israel, there's a lot of people on that

ground who are manipulating news as well. And they're right there. So you got to be so careful. You know, I keep urging people to not just believe anything that instantly confirms any bias you have towards anything domestic or foreign, because if it makes you feel good you should probably be extra suspicious of that news i saw a ton of conservative commentators retweeting a bunch of fake videos uh-huh all the time it's happened a lot i mean yesterday with uh the the shooter in maine oh yeah yeah i saw it's like yo what are you guys doing man but it's that that urgency especially uh twitter x whatever it's called has really emphasized this more than ever that you have to be the first or one of the beginning people to share it, to repost it. You know, you need to be on the front lines of everything.

And it means that if you wait to verify, you're behind, but actually you know the truth. It's this sort of weird issue. With what you're saying with the international component of what's being reported on the ground i always find that the language barrier is sort of the biggest obstacle because you know i don't speak either of the languages for which the main why not is the honor i'm just uh not that educated you know i i just uh i really like english i'm still trying to master it every day as a struggle no i'm just kidding but uh unless you're chris carr and you see all my typos but uh the the issue there is that people who can speak those languages and i I don't mean this in a mean way, have their own bias when they read the news. And so when they are reading their own sources, I mean, especially if you're, you know, let's say an immigrant from one of these places in America, you have ties there.

It makes it not that they couldn't do it accurately. I don't want to make any accusations, but it just means it's, there's a layer of emotional, there's a layer of emotion. There's two barriers you're talking about. And there's like the barrier we have to deal with here and other English speaking countries where it's like the barrier of bias and the words they use to describe certain people and the qualifiers they might use in terms of like when New York Times writes about RFK Jr., all the qualifiers I got to put in front of his name. He's a COVID conspiracy theorist, all these things.

But then it's also the language barrier on top of that when you're dealing with international news so it makes it to the point where i'm like i can't really believe anything i'm reading right now and everyone just wants to go viral oh yeah yeah whether it's true or not or somewhat true yeah and then they won't delete it because they should uh yeah elon should get rid of well i say he should, but Twitter had talked about getting rid of follower counts and retweet numbers and stuff like this. And the reason they never did, Twitter knew that it's a scoring system. Ratio means you failed and retweets mean you've succeeded.

And that's what everyone does on X. If you got rid of that, you lose the gamification of social media and nobody wants to give up that position. But then the bots, sorry, the bots subverted that though. Like just today, our friends in MythInformed, right?

They were locked out of their account. I retweeted something about them. I happened to tag X support or whatever, infiltrated by bots. Dozens of accounts all created in October of this year, sharing the same link, different know bots but are those bots there they have the blue check right i don't know if they all had the blue check but their names were all similar it was like a name and then like a bunch of numbers next to it and then the same link so they will have a lot of those

bots will now have those blue checks yeah instagram tried something similar where they removed they would say we'll take away that the like number like how many likes your photo is getting. And at the time they were saying it was to combat, especially, you know, social media addiction, but specifically body dysmorphia issues with young teenage girls. The fact that they would, you know, post certain things and they would get a reaction to it. And I don't know that it made a difference. I think in some ways it, it just reemphasized that you don't know how valued you are. And I don't like that. We have these digits.

On the other hand, you can understand when we have the content, the, the influencer industry that says we need to know how many people follow you. We need to know what your reach is like. We need to know what your engagement is like, why those tools actually exist for some people as a business model. Yeah.

I want to, I want to pull up this tweet from Kit Klarenberg. Kit is a reporter for, I believe he's at Grayzone. And he noticed something interesting. Now, I want to make sure I'm very careful here as we start this. This is not hard confirmation of anything. But I do think it's something that warrants paying attention to.

He stated, it's over. And there's an article that says, Israel rejects Zelensky's visit. Time is not right. And this is from 10 days ago. And there's an article that says Israel rejects Zelensky's visit. Time is not right. And this is from 10 days ago. He says what's also striking is prominent pro-Ukraine accounts are shuddering rapidly, such as UA weapons, which claimed to track Russian losses and garnered almost a million followers. Wonder how long it'll take for those flags to start disappearing from display names.

Display names. Why do you think, asks H2. He says infrastructure technology and personnel used to amplify these accounts is being redirected elsewhere western powers have no use of propaganda encouraging the view ukraine will win and needs to be sent weapons now quite the opposite so this is an interesting uh argument that we're seeing i think we have uh this one he says absolutely classic an anonymous high profile pro-ukraine account that 10 days ago attacked me for suggesting high-profile pro-Ukraine accounts are shutting down in a coordinated manner is now shutting down. Calibre Obscura says, I will be deleting this account within a few weeks.

Life is increasingly busy and, frankly, no longer in a place where I want to interact with things that I do every day, etc., etc. Now, it may be. This is very, very interesting. This is a tweet from october 16th when he put this out this is a little while ago uh that he tweeted this and then i think this uh this next one was from just uh just yesterday it could be that uh u.s intelligence agencies have been running psyops pro-ukraine accounts generating massive numbers of followers not necessarily pro-ukraineraine, like this UA weapons account

apparently was tracking all information. But the argument would be, yes, but from a Western perspective, when they say, oh, Russian troops are dying, it's this at the Western number or the Russian number. And then you have this other account that's shuttering as well. Perhaps one of two things is happening and there could be other things intel agencies are running psyops and now that the money is being diverted to israel in the middle east we can't run these accounts anymore so somebody who is in you know some kind of psyops division or private contractor is told hey shutter those accounts we're going to be focusing on israel and they go you got it oh sorry my family thing happened or the simple solution perhaps is ukraine is over no one cares anymore these look this this one account calibrate being like you know my life's getting a little busy

you may as well just say what is going on in ukraine no longer bears weight with me and other things have become more important and that just says whether it is the end of a PSYOP or not, nobody cares about Ukraine. It's done. Yeah. I mean, it's not good for Zelensky either way. He was really counting on more American money from what I understand.

But I think it's interesting. I said this before, Russia won. Yeah, I think in a lot of ways that's true. I think it's interesting to see the way Ukraine has fallen to the background, right? I mean, we don't see any pro-Ukraine protests. It's not even like there was a way for these two different groups to team up. It's just off record.

And to a certain extent, I credit that to the fact that the American people can really only have one big thing in the news cycle at a time. It's very difficult for them to have, you know, hold, pay attention to two things at once. It's like that meme where they insert one brain trip of Ukraine. Then the next one is of Israel. Yeah. I mean, that's like the capacity that they can really just go off of. Right. If it is a PSYOP.

Man, I got a rude awakening. We got a rude awakening for these intel agencies. It's like all of the stuff that's been happening with the manipulation on social media that's propped up woke left psychotic garbage. How do they expect to get military support for Israel when they have themselves coordinated with these big tech platforms

to prop up anti-Israel sentiment? I don't know. I'm saying like they're incompetent unless it really is some deep 5d chess where they're like first we make them hate israel then we make them like israel and i really doubt it i think the people who are just running this propaganda are just really dumb i wish they could rebrand these psyops into something positive and caring about places like east palestine or or maui you know but they won't do that i don't know that's always my question like like are they just incompetent or are they just evil like i just cannot i don't i don't think they make money off east palestine the way they do with this yeah for sure and i think i think that's evil taking advantage of a lot of incompetent people you know and i think there is a psyop component to these

things and there's obviously also organic people who latched on to the psyop like maybe this person who says you know i'm moving on to other things is a real person we went to this tapas restaurant called barcelona barcelona in uh in reston virginia it was awesome by the way we've been there like three weeks in a row because it's so good barcelona barcelona yeah that's how they say it in catalonia but uh barcelona is the name of the restaurant and uh the pair that we have fans who uh who work there and um i mean maybe they won't like that i'm saying i don't know but the people they were completely open like oh hey you know like we're big fans nice to meet you and then we went back and this guy came up and said he's like hey man i love your show you're

probably not going to get that out here in Reston, but I'm a big fan. Keep it up. And I was like, actually, you've had like four or five people here shout us out. I think the reason I bring that out, I'm not trying to humble brag or anything. The point is stop thinking you're alone. Everyone thinks they're the only one.

They're sitting there being like, oh, that's Tim Pool. I watch him. I know no one else does. So I better just say it quietly. No, no, it turns out everybody there was super cool. So too many people are seeing these psyops, seeing the manipulation on social media, and they're assuming, wow, everyone in this country must secretly like trans kids and Ukraine war and stuff. I better keep my mouth shut.

Then it turns out and everyone actually agrees with you. Nobody likes us wasting money on these foreign wars. There's been no justification for why we're doing it. Shifting from Ukraine to the Middle East now. So if people just start realizing that, start speaking up, maybe we can put a stop to it. This is why I advocate for parents when they go on playdates to immediately open up the conversation about all the things you care about the most

so you can whittle down who you can have your kids hang out with or not. I think you should screen all your kids' friends. That does make sense to me. I got an idea. I got an idea. I got an idea. Here's what we do. An app where you can select things that you believe in politically. And then with your friends, it will only show your political positions.

If you agree, it's like public square. I'm going to tell my developer friend. Did you get that? So like, it'll say, what's your stance on approach-choice, pro-life, progressive taxes, border control. And then if you don't agree on anything, it just doesn't share anything. Yeah, dating app sort of for parents. But it's like Bumble had this. They had Bumble BFF, which was like for women to meet other women and make friends.

I'm not actually serious for the most part because like you can't implement something like this but the general idea is you know you could you could input your your political uh you know views and then you don't have to worry about someone being like ah you know but that the reality is you should just be able to say hey you know i don't like the fact that in new york they're threatening jewish people right now maybe they shouldn't do that i think you're probably just not as weird as you think you are i mean i think a lot of people feel like because they're not hearing it on mainstream media, maybe other people don't want to talk about it. Or just afraid to say it out loud. Right.

Probably your views are not that outlandish. You're probably not that dramatic of a person. Like you just believe the things you believe. And if you treat it like it's normal, which it is, other people will fall suit, even if they don't completely agree with you. So like when I say clouds are fake, it's fine. Well, it gives us something to talk about, right? How are we going to get to know how people feel about this important issue? Wait, clouds are fake? I think when I say clouds are fake, it's fine. Well, it gives us something to talk about, right? How are we going to get to know

how people feel about this important issue? Wait, clouds are fake? I think the majority of clouds are fake, yes. That's another surprise. I think they've been pumped into the atmosphere

or created out of chemtrails and they just get recycled and it's just poison falling out of the sky. I think it's just water vapor. Well, I think a lot of them, or I think some of them are water vapor.

And how could you build an intellectual conversation about these differing viewpoints? But I think we've poisoned our sky to such a degree. Another app idea. Yeah. I think we of them are water vapor. And how could you build an intellectual conversation without these differing viewpoints? I think we've poisoned our sky to such a degree. Another app idea. Yeah. I think we've cloud seeded so much that it's hard to tell what's real.

Yeah, but they use lasers for cloud seeding now. Oh man. Yeah, they don't need to put chemicals up there. Maybe, but I'm talking, maybe it's the vintage clouds, you know, they haven't really got, they're still in the cycle. See, the thing is, I don't have a position on clouds, so this is very helpful to help me

to learn about this topic. No, look it up, look it up, this is good. We've been seeding clouds for a while. For sure. We're doing different ways now. Silver iodide was the first way they did it. And then they started using, I think 10 years ago, infrared lasers. Lasers to cloud seeding. It must be wild when you go on playdates with your kids, like what you launch into. It's just like this.

What's your view on clouds? Also, our kids don't need sugar. Exactly. Or salmon's bioengineered and it's part bug, so don't eat that either. Well, also, people don't realize that a lot of salmon, when it says wild caught, they grow it in a farm, release it into the wild, and then re-catch it. No joke. Wait, so wild caught, it can be a lie. Wait, so then which one do you get? Which one do you get?

Because it's not- So, there's things you got to watch out for are if there's a company called like Wild Caught Salmon and Wild Caught is a brand name, then it's farm. Or if Wild Caught Salmon is a brand name, it's not a man. I'm not saying quite literally that's the case. I'm saying watch out for brand names that masquerade as. And look for the colors of salmon too. Yeah.

If you look online, you'll notice that Wild Salmon is actually not so fatty. So if your salmon is pretty fatty, it's probably corn fed or something nonsense. But what they'll do is they'll raise salmon in a farm, in a big vat. Then they'll dump them in the ocean. Then they'll go with big ships and catch them and say, we caught them in the wild. Fukushima is also a problem. Wait, to recap, salmons don't like corn? They're not a corn on the cob fan?

I think they feed them corn. I'm not entirely sure. But more back to the point the point i was bringing up initially is that with this story uh potentially arguing that many of these pro-ukraine accounts were psyops the first thing i'd have to say outside of you know the context of the story just in general is absolutely the government is running psychological operations on social media to generate support for war yes so think about all the accounts right now that are demanding u.s intervention over israel and elon musk says he wants to charge a dollar per year

it's the only way to get rid of the bots i don't know if even that will work all he's going to do is create a more expensive market for bots yep right now bots are free you charge a dollar what's going to happen is the barrier for entry for bot making goes up and then the bot companies and contractors will just say so you wanted how many bots 3 000 uh we're increasing our prices by 340 percent uh because of elon musk's you know dollar so you got to cover the dollar per account then you've got to cover the credit card you know so it's an extra 15 bucks all in all it's going to cost you three or four times more for your bots and then these these organizations go oh yeah no problem i can

afford that it becomes a business expense it's just more expensive to do right and you think like governments are going to abandon their psyops on twitter no no they've been working on those for a long time no they love psychological operations they've been performing on us for forever so is a psyop within a psyop within a psyop yeah yeah that's exactly it yeah you don't know maybe the psyop was the psyop the whole time maybe the psyop was the psyop we made along the way getting the psyop to be exposed was the actual intention wow again that i can't follow is inverted world season three off i go it is kind of hilarious that uh you know a few weeks ago we were talking about how the i'm looking at the bbc's battle map for ukraine and it shows

russia controlling the land bridge into crimea and i'm like that's it they got what they wanted and i'm these conservatives are like that's not true they wanted all of ukraine they were going to invade from the north and now all of a sudden it's like okay we lost we're done everybody out we're uh we're no longer interested in what's going on in ukraine again i'd really like to uh hear more from zolinski who is probably so mad about his business venture failing uh i do think you know we couldn't sustain this even with janet yellen saying we can afford two wars realistically no and also we could maybe theoretically continue to pay for both things. I know Speaker Johnson was sort of there was a clip of him being asked by journalists.

Are you going to send more money to Ukraine today? But the reality is, as much as we need financial, it needs the attention span of the American people. That's right. And if it's not there, the money won't follow. They could print all the money they want, but it's the morale they need. I want to jump to this Twitter thread from Jeff Morris Jr. at JMJ, his managing partner at Chapter One.

And he writes at The New Internet, former VP of Product at Tinder. VP of Product and Revenue. He says, the TikTok war, why high school and college kids are getting the wrong information about Hamas and Israel. He said,

I spent the weekend trying to reverse engineer the TikTok algorithm because I am convinced this is the reason we are losing the information war with high school and college students. One red flag was seeing San Francisco high school students who were aggressively anti-Israel and asking myself where they were getting their news. Their protests happened right after the fake New York Times headline that accused Israel of the hospital bomb.

I also want to pause real quick as well. The Wall Street Journal maintains that the video we see of the rocket exploding in midair and payload falling was what hit the parking lot. The New York Times got the story wrong, apologized, and then came out with another story like, actually, that video you watched was wrong. Our analysis says that's actually now it hit the hospital. And it's like very convenient for the New York Times who flubbed this one really, really bad to be like, actually, we weren't that wrong. So I think the New York Times is full of it. I think the New York Times is a captured organization that is desperately trying to be pro-Hamas.

We saw this with the Tom Cotton op-ed. The op-ed editor got fired because Tom Cotton wrote an op-ed about sending the military because of the BLM riots. So New York Times, you've known for a long time, look what Barry Weiss had to say. It is a captured leftist institution. Let's read. He says the bigger red flag was seeing 51 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 believe Hamas terrorists who raped and murdered innocent women and children believe Hamas was justified.

My high school classmates who lived through 9-11 would never believe this. That's right. Look at this. You guys seen this chart. He's this. This graph is actually missing one other important component. believe this that's right look at this you guys seen this this this uh chart he's uh uh this this graph is actually missing one other important component not only do 18 to 24 year olds in the majority believe it was justified but in the majority believe it was genocide so i believe it's 60 uh was it 63 percent of uh 18 to 24 year olds believe what Hamas did was genocide and 51% believe it is justified.

That is insane. Let's read more. He says, why do high school students in San Francisco hate Israel so much? I assume very few of them have been to Israel, let alone have a fully formed view of a multi-generational conflict. They're 16 years old and live in California. Let's be serious for a minute. For Gen Z, TikTok is the new search engine. It's the number one search engine for more than

half of Gen Z. It's the primary news source for many younger demos, and while we have justifiable concerns about the New York Times and mainstream media, this has become a TikTok war. When I discovered through data and user testing, what I have discovered is extremely concerning and I believe requires more attention, as this is an

actual national security issue. When I engaged with one post on tiktok supporting opposing views my entire feed became aggressively anti-israel it was as if i was placed in an ab test variant and was told to see this war with israel being the evil side as i looked at the tactics and data i saw that much of tiktok is being controlled by anti-israel bot farms paid commentators commenters likers sharers much of which is paid for by hamas supporting organizations i then looked at the data and saw that israel is losing the tiktok war by a long shot as an example the top three three billion top hashtag is three

billion views for palestine versus 200 million for israel if you look at the other hashtags it is clear that israel israel has a distribution issue so he he goes on a bit, but you get the point. He says he's still researching. I actually think the point is this. China is trying to get the U.S. into multiple wars at once. And the purpose of this is get the U.S. into war in Ukraine, in the Mediterranean, and itself. This is going to create a massive conflict in the U.S. Look what we're seeing with Cooper Union yesterday.

Ron Coleman made a really important point. A video of Jewish students locked in the library as far leftists are banging on the door screaming free Palestine. And the latest reporting that came out is that I believe it was the librarian told these students to hide in the attic. I kid you not.

Wow. Now I'm wondering what attic is in the building and if they're just saying that because it's like invoking some serious images. But how does something like that happen where these are just some Jewish students in New York

and Ron Coleman says they're not Israeli students. That's right. The leftists did not go to the room where Israelis were. They went to the room where israelis were they went to the room where the jewish students were banging on the door and screaming for palestine they don't see a distinction so i actually think this is hates tick tock it's china and we get these doofy

republicans who are like they're spying on us no dude they're manipulating young people hey we're banned on tick tock I wonder why that is. You're on TikTok a lot, you said before the show. Is this what you're seeing too? I am on TikTok. Oh, sorry. Did I just expose you? No, no, no. I am on TikTok. I got banned

a couple times. Carly Bonet who helps push war room stuff, she's been banned like 25 times. We just started a War Room one and it's, yeah, they ban War Room all the time. Anything

that is, you know, I guess any of that. And you don't really scroll through it yourself? You just use it for War Room? I have my own personal one. Are you seeing it in your algorithm? I'm wondering. I'm asking because if it's complete it's all or if it's targeted to young people yeah it is it's a takeover and i see even in the live streams they have like you know the the the live whatever's it's all pro-palestine like just like it all of

it i've wondered and i can't remember who made this point in the past week that i've been on irl that um one of the things that happened post 9-11 was that to avoid uh encouraging an anti-islam anti-muslim sentiment uh textbook companies partnered with organizations that are pro-islam and there is an influence there. I believe it almost and it could be part of the algorithm but like if I watch one you know video about like you know oh this is what's really happening and it's that I'll just see all those videos. Yeah it makes me wonder if students are particularly vulnerable because of this precaution that was potentially taken when they were

publishing textbooks post 9-11, in addition to the fact that it's being pushed on them on social media. So there's no narrative, right? If you, I mean, I felt like this, I went, I grew up in a liberal blue area and I always leaned conservative. And I remember there were times in school where you're being taught something, but you know, you're reading something different at home. The conversations are different among your family. You can kind of, you know, to question it,

whereas if it's hitting you from social media, which is basically how you run your entire after school life, maybe in school too. And your teachers are presenting information that says, you know, actually, this is how this conflict started. And you know, this side gets this wrong and whatever, if there is no escape, if there's no, no way for them to see on the outside, unless they have family in Israel, unless they have a connection somewhere else i have only seen pro pro hamas type videos on tiktok yeah i'm not surprised with the college stuff because i think they were all primed for this after the like riot summer with blm and this is just like an extension of that so they see violence as righteous and they were young i mean if you're a high school student now in 2020,

if you're 17 now, you were 13. That's like what, the end of middle school. And so you grew up in a time where social media and really outlandish protests that verge in the point of destruction and violence are the norm and perhaps even celebrated that it was cool that all of your friends, older siblings were getting likes

for attending these things and throwing bricks through windows or whatever else. It's the cultural revolution. It's the Red Guard. Yeah, and they've been waiting. They've been waiting to have their chance to have something to protest about. Yeah, they primed them to want violence, right?

Even though it's the same crowd that says silence is violence or words are violence. These are, Will Chamberlain pointed out, these are people who cheered, not in a physical one, but in New York City, cheered for Hamas and are now,

because of what's going on in Maine, arguing to disarm people. Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. It seems wild. They hate their political enemies and they'll do,

they have no moral center and they'll say whatever they have to do to destroy their political enemies. How about, how about Hamas breaks through the barriers, paraglides in, murders a bunch of civilians and men, women and children. And then Israel strikes Gaza. When Hamas storms in, what do we see?

We see people in New York City cheering for the killing of civilians. Then when Israel bombs Palestine, we see these people saying, bomb Gaza. They say, oh, no, they're they bomb Gaza, they say, oh no, they're killing civilians and they're crying and saying, how could you support this? And I'm just like, bro, you were supporting it.

It's okay when it happens to someone else's civilians. Gaza, Israel, people. Okay, like I'm not Israel or Palestine or whatever. All I know is people are dying. But y'all were celebrating civilians dying

and now you're complaining about civilians dying. I don't think you actually care about civilians dying. Right. No, I don't think so either. I think there's also a level of, you know, one of the things that I have heard told over and over again is that one of the reasons people say you should support Palestine, support Hamas or whatever is because they're being colonized, right? They're the colonizer oppressing them. And this is actually very similar to the language that we hear with BLM and with other.

It's critical race theory. Right, exactly. And so if all of our young people are trained sort of a la Pavlov and his dog, that when they hear a certain word, they know exactly how they're supposed to respond. They know how to fall in line. Right. If you hear colonizer, you know which side you're supposed to be on because in our history, which is the only lens they're allowed to, they can view it through. And part of that I would say is probably immaturity, right? It's, they haven't experienced the world. They don't know anything, but also, you know, they are only ever allowed to hear certain terms and line up on certain sites. It's all indoctrination. I mean, you know,

you go back to Japanese Korean culture, like way back when, I mean, you know, Japanese colonized Korea, you know, I mean, there's colonizers everywhere. So would the modern-day teenager be on Korea's side? That's a good question. I haven't thought about that. Because that's the word they hear. They haven't thought about that. That's how they know how to line up.

I think part of it is that there's not a lot of critical analysis. They just want to have the viral moment. And again, I've said this before, but, you know, that story about the student who wrote Black Lives Matter matters you know however many times on his college application and got admitted to whatever ivy league like these kids are going to present their tick tocks being like i got every one of my school to dance in the pro-palestine pro-hamas rally and so i'm very very important and you should let me into your school like this is what they think will build their potential activist future on which is linked to both their social value

and their intellectual value. You know, the views of these students will never change. I mean, in small numbers, for sure, people do change. But what people need to understand about generations is that when we see, according to Pew Research, Gen Z being slightly more conservative than millennials in some areas, they assume this means that Gen Z is learning these things, when in reality, it's just conservatives have more kids. More kids are being raised. These young people who

are chanting from the river to the sea, it's locked in. They've chanted it. They've said it. It's part of who they are, and it will be painful to admit they were wrong. Only some people ever have the strength to actually go through these transformations and be like, what was I thinking? Most of them, when they're in their 30s, are going to be part of extremist groups in some fashion or another. This is why, you know, when we were talking last time marxism and in the college world and then you know i'm thinking of like domestic terrorists such as weather underground literally blowing people up you know and they're avowed marxists they they're very open about it they eventually go to jail people like bill ayers or susan rosenberg they susan rosenberg gets pardoned by bill clinton on his last day in office she becomes a professor she's espousing all those things they all are

you know they eventually uh even my beloved cuomo uh mass murderer in new york let out on his last day in office, she becomes a professor. She's espousing all those things. They all are. They eventually, even my beloved Cuomo, a mass murderer in New York, let out on his last day in office, a weather underground person who built a bomb and killed people. They take over the colleges. There's a lot of them. They breed this world where they talk about how Marxism will be the paradise for people. But anyway, Susan Rosenberg, what does she do other than being a professor? She starts 1,000 Currents and then ActBlue. What does ActBlue do? They help siphon the money for Black Lives Matter, which, in my opinion, is another domestic terrorist organization. So it's like I just see a straight line through all of this where that's the kind of violence that those campuses breed. I think Veritas had a report.

I want to be very careful of my language here, alleging that China was funneling money to political parties through ActBlue. I'm not entirely sure what the reporting was. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised either. I think that was a big story. I just don't have entirely sure what the reporting was. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised either. I think that was a big story. I just don't have it put up in front of me. I wouldn't be surprised if through college, a lot of colleges rely,

especially small colleges rely on foreign donations to make their quotas at the end of the year. I mean, you have so many foreign students from China. Didn't we have professors during COVID getting arrested for ties to China for certain things? I forget, was it espionage or what they were or there's like some guy with a suitcase and viruses in it and it was the crazy stuff was going on uh back there you have to me a link because i don't know that one yeah that was that's a deep cut from like three years ago i mean that was the thing

about kovat though there was both so much happening uh surges no i remember that you're talking about like there was a there was a person that was traveling with like viruses he shouldn't have yeah right and they somehow like fell out because they were carrying them in some way that would make it like

it was very sketchy yeah yeah yeah they fell out or they fell out it's O'Keefe Media Group four months ago FEC story update Chinese money involved

in Act Blue donations exactly what it said there you go Chinese money's everywhere and Xi's the new Mao and Mao's cultural revolution. And Bill Ayers

and Weather Underground look up to Mao. I see that as the poison that's destroying this country. I think one of the problems we have is children are being raised by children

and now by algorithms and adults want to be children. That is also true. Where is Gen X? We need Gen X. Where are they? What are they up to? I mean, I'm like, I'm a zillennial, so. I don't even know

if generations matter anymore because social media has flattened everyone down into one. But it does. You know, it should. I feel like it matters. It should. Like all generations, they have their style, their slang, their music. I believe it may be one of the last generations to experience something like this because of the decline in population. I don't know if this is true, but I saw a report that Italy didn't record a birth for like three months or something.

I saw that, but I haven't verified it yet. I just saw a tweet. It is interesting, though. Let's just assume it's not true. Fertility rates have massively collapsed. Wow. And if we're below i got bad news for gen z if we are below uh maybe not so gen z but gen alpha if we're below a replacement rate

reproduction that means that there will be more millennials than gen z more millennials than gen alpha that means that the interests of the economy will favor the larger generations so uh typically what you see is a lot of companies will try to bend you know they try to get woke because they're like we got to be hip with the kids when i worked for fusion that was that was the thing they were like look we're targeting young people they're most they're more progressive so that's what we're going to do and boy were they wrong that was not what the data was showing and they imploded because of it but they didn't actually care or believe in any of these things they just thought we got to go where the kids are uh shane smith of vice he's like in his mid-30s when vice is is uh is starting to take off he's in his

mid-40s when it really takes off and he's making content that was targeting people in their 20s that was the mentality that a lot of these big companies had that's not that's not going to be the case you're going to launch a company and you're going to say, what's the biggest market share we can get? And they're going to say, well, we got 75 million Gen Z. We got 50 million Gen Alpha. We got 100 million millennials. Well, screw it.

Go for the millennials. What about Gen X? Well, I'm saying Gen X is going to be out of the... At this point, when Gen Alpha is in the marketplace gen x is phased out yeah so i'm talking about gen alpha in their late teens and into their 20s millennials are going to be in their late 50s and they're going to be exiting gen x is already going to be out in the retirement less of a consideration in terms of of big ad spends but this means that millennials are going to continually hold a disproportionate amount of market power because of the size of the generation.

True. So I'm not as concerned with seeing a bunch of crackpot young kids because the likelihood, what I see being, what may happen is, as the market seeks to pander to the larger block of the market share, these kids are going to have to adhere and change to fit the mold of what millennials want and and not the other way around right so i think one of the reasons adults want to be kids you know like that abe simpson meme they i used to be with it they changed what it was and homer's like that'll never happen to me man it's because you're watching tv

and you are watching what you perceive as social acceptance. What does everyone love? They love the rock star. I want to be like the rock star. Only thing is rock star is now 20 years younger than you. So you get those midlife crises where it's like, I'm hip. I can be cool. What if cool was just what you were? What if the dad jeans and Rolling Stones never faded out of pop culture uh out of the spotlight i don't think i think there's going to be pockets of fame and personality among young people obviously because of their peer groups but if the money is if if you're going to make a hundred million dollars by doing a fallout boy show or how about this you know the when we were young tour if they make more money doing that then what's going to happen is where's the

ad spend going to be big marketing companies going to be like look this gen z thing is good but we can maybe make 20 million dollars but this when we were young thing these people got money and there's more of them you could argue that uh back in the day but hold on older people always had more money yes and they had kids and they spent that money on their kids. And now millennials don't have kids and they're spending the money on themselves. So it's going to get real interesting real soon. Yeah, I think you're really cultivating towards the millennials.

I found Gen Z really interesting and I can't tell if this is just sort of a biased view through the lens of social media, but it seems like they are really burning through every generational fashion trend. You'll get these enclaves of girls who are really burning through every generational fashion trend you'll get these enclaves of girls who are really into the 70s stuff or really into the early 2000s or like 90s grunge core was very popular for a second during covid and then it kind of went away i mean they are searching for generational identity and i don't think they are creating

one for themselves they have language and they have social media but social media isn't enough to actually have a generational culture. When I was a kid, a Nirvana shirt was a band that was playing music at the time. And then, you know, not for a time after that in late nineties, but like people would have the holes in their jeans and the Nirvana shirt

when Nirvana was releasing music. It's really funny to see that viral Tik TOok where that like 18 year old girl she's wearing a divana shirt she's like i don't even know what this is it's just like it's at hot topic and everyone wears it yeah but then some millennial mom also buys them for her like toddlers and then chase them around being like name three songs i what i am telling you is not predictive it is descriptive go to the mall yo i i i go to the mall and hot topics got nightmare before christmas what year did that movie come out 1993 or something yeah and and and i see gen i see gen alpha gen z wearing like night before christmas stuff and i'm like they don't have their own

like you were saying generational identity we do night before christmas that was millennial and i think it's because i have to spend all their time on gen x i'm gen x how old are you oh tim well you said you're gen x you gotta answer i'm i'm a zillennial so i'm in between um but so but so you were you were old enough to be part of the people who are wearing the jack skellington shirts and stuff yeah it's it's crazy now to see young people making videos where they're wearing nirvana and and night before christmas now don't get me wrong when i was growing up i also had like my mom my mom had we had a bunch of zeppelin shirts grand funk railroad whatever doobie brothers i don't know i don't know what that stuff was 80s music but it's different it's because you go to the mall and it's not modern new stuff when i was a kid went to the mall night before christmas

was new you went to hotic and it was like, here's new things. Now I go in, it's bleach and Naruto. And I'm like, dude, that was 20 years ago. It's stalled. I don't even know what that is. They created a stalled, which I think is crazy. I don't know if it's stalled so much.

I feel like nostalgia is like a drug of complacency. And a lot of people, like a lot of millennials and people our age, even older and younger, they just want to live, like Tim's saying, as adult babies. So they are dressing themselves like they did when they were babies. I think that explains older people. But for Gen Z, they should be serving up something that they can replace, right?

And they're not. And I think some of that, and this is just my maybe touch grass moment here, but I think some of it is because they spend so much time online looking for what's trendy instead of going out and making trendy things. They're even on a worse drug. That's regurgitated there's no nucleus no there's nothing no and to be fair covet wrecked some of it for the for gen z because the leaders of gen z all had to then go home and then spend more time on the internet and not with each other they're just like googling so y2k took off we're trying to wearing y2k so because that was then when they were kids and

look at this like i learned this like gen z like Gen Z pause. When you make a video, you know how sometimes they're like, hi, the Gen Z pause, hi. Like there's so many rules. Yeah. Or they put texts really small on videos. That's something that millennials don't do. It's like to the point, yeah.

But it's to make you look at the thing for longer. Right, right. I mean, they're crazy, but it's all driven by social media in a way that no generation has been. 1990 was the last, the 90s were the last decade. I love the 90s.

The 90s were peak human existence. It was the last decade. It was the peak America. There's younger people listening who are like, tell me about the 90s, guys. Yeah, it's you.

Paracelton, man. The juicy couture. Everybody can argue about the generation they like, and for millennials and Gen Xers who had like a formative years in the 90s are going to say the 90s were great the 80s were kind of weird

the 70s had their had their time the 60s had their time but these are discernible generations are decades you look at styles someone can show you a picture of a living room and you'll be like oh that was the 50s someone can show you the picture of a diner and you'll be like, oh, that was the 50s. Someone can show you the picture of a diner and be like, that's 70s. Someone can show you a picture of a guy, just a guy wearing clothes and be like, that was the 80s. He's wearing like neon leopard print hot pants. And you're like, we know when that was. Feathery hair.

And the 90s. Yep. And then the 2000s happened. And there are some things like, how about, I say some things because- Skinny jeans and ballet flats no it started to break apart yeah uh so uh wearing a long sleeve shirt with a short sleeve shirt over it but that only was in certain areas of the millennial generation yeah for sure i wonder if it's because of the internet but uh we were uh we're downstairs hanging out in the green before

the show and i'm like i tell the TV to play top songs from the 80s. And everybody knows the songs. And it's like Shout comes on. And, oh, of course, Tears for Fears. And I'm like, just put on Tears for Fears. Even when they came up here, I was like, 90s. It was like Audioslave, I think you were playing. What were we playing?

No, no, no. I was playing. Soundgarden? No, it was Toadies. Possum Kingdom. Oh, nice. And do you want to die? no. I was playing, uh, no, it was Toadies, Possum Kingdom. Oh, nice. And, uh, do you want to die?

Yeah. I love that song. I love that song. And so, uh, I'm driving in my car and we put on 90s playlist. Every song that comes on,

we're like, man, I know this song. And then I was like, well, we've done 80s, we've done 70s because the 70s,

you got a bunch of hits, you know, of course. And then I, uh, I, I said, put on hits from the 2000s.

I knew none of it. Well, 2000s is like Britney Spears, NSYNC. I don't know who else. But wasn't that late 90s? Ja Rule. Yes, but into the early 2000s. Yeah, Nelly. Nelly.

It was much more pop. One was Usher Big. He was around for a minute. He's about to be big again because of the halftime show. Yes, there's no stopping Usher. I think it's the internet. Creed. Jack Posoba, Creed.

That's 90s. Creed is 90s for sure. I think it's because of the internet. And what happened was the reason we all knew these songs is because there was only like five places to get the songs. Yes.

But I noticed this when I was younger. I started getting really angry. It's the 2000s. I'm a teenager and Q101, the radio station in Chicago was only playing Stone Temple Pilots. Oh, no, no. K-Rock is LA, right? Yeah. It was playing Stone Temple Pilots. Basically, no matter what you do,

you get Stone Temple Pilots and you get Pearl Jam. And I'm like, dude, that song is like 12 years old. And then I remember coming back a few years ago and i was like wow they're playing music from 30 years ago yeah that's crazy and it's like rock alternative rock and i'm like yeah it's you're not it's an oldie station dude when i was a kid we had the oldie station oldies 104.3 and it's the 90s and they play songs from the 50s and 60s so now if

you're playing music from the 90s and the 80s, like you're oldies, dude. Did you listen to 96.3? In Chicago? Oh, B96. B96. Of course. Oh, B96, man.

That was my jam. See, I feel like I didn't really grow up listening to the radio. And so I feel like I missed all kinds of musical references. I listened to the radio on the way here. I still like the radio. See, I just listen to NPR all the time. NPR? Oh, yeah, for'm a why do you torture yourself the thing is it's good to see what other people are doing and how they're presenting things and at the time i was

when i when i got my license because i'm a nerd uh when i got my driver's license at 16 or whatever i would drive around listening to this american life which i thought was such an interesting it was a great show it was a great show. It was a great show. And then I tried to listen to it as a podcast, in podcast format recently, and it was just so different. And I feel like in some ways, if you were a music connoisseur in the 90s and 80s, and you're like, this is really good music, any recreation, because obviously your favorite bands will have their moment and die down.

The ones that come after them are not good enough to feel like they're carrying on the tradition. And so in some ways, these traditions of, you know, I think this was like big band music, they just die partially because they go out of fashion, but also because there isn't anyone who's able to carry on the torch effectively. Yeah, I still love, I think radio is great.

And like when I travel so much, I'm driving so much. I like listening to radio in different areas to see like what they're listening to. Regional radio. Regional radio is how you find it. Oh dude, road trips were so fun when like, you'd start to lose a radio station and then you'd try and look for the next one.

And then all of a sudden it's like, you start hearing both at the same time. And then, you know, we're driving and I'm hearing like, blink 182 on the radio, what's my age again? And then it's like, where I just got back home. And I'm like, whoa. I guess it's like well i just got back and i'm like whoa you're seeing the cross-section of culture that was my experience uh when i first started coming down to west virginia during 2020 because there's nothing to do so i did a lot of driving around

and i was with someone and we got like four stations back to back that were all just like very typical what i would call pop punk and this friend like turned to me and he was like west virginia where pop punk never died 101.5 baby so funny because there are i mean in some ways it makes me wonder i talk a little bit about on the show about regionalism and how there is regional culture in america which is largely due to foundational immigration and how we do lose it especially as the internet becomes more popular but maybe the radio is what keeps regional local culture alive it so right uh we lost regional diction because of television because of national television yeah everyone's trying to look if i'm going to appeal to the entire country we've got you got to lose the accent or whatever and i think with the internet you you've basically taken away you've reversed this yeah so now you've

got all of these different subcultures to the point where some of them are getting really, really weird. Really weird and creepy people dressing up like animals and doing weird things. Yeah, but like if, so back in the day, we want people who do nasty, gross things to

keep it to themselves. The weird costumes they wear and they go out in public. there's a viral video of a guy just like a baby in a diaper going out and chugging out a bottle and filming other people and then talking about how it's getting him off i'm like we want people like that not to be able to post these things and like that guy would never be on tv no so most people got their culture from very few sources so everybody recognized something and that builds uh it builds a connection when um when what's the song sweet caroline what's the name of the song it's got

that's not the name of the song everybody knows it and they play at the baseball stadium everyone goes bop bop bop what about modern caroline yeah so so i'm at, we're at a pool hall. I put on a bunch of music going back from like the 70s till now. And sure enough, when I put on Bohemian Rhapsody, the entire bar starts singing. And then someone was like, who did it? And they're like, yeah, and we're all singing Bohemian Rhapsody. It was fun. And then I put on a few other, you know, hits or whatever.

And you've got people sporadically singing. Then I put on modern rock and everyone just tunes out. Nobody knows what it is. Modern as in like right now or? Yeah, like music, no, like 2010s rock songs and stuff. Things that I enjoy. I think the only thing people would know, and it would depend on what age group is at the bar, are some of the really big hits

that were like popular viral dance videos during during 2020 especially but not even not even taylor swift people are singing yeah like if you just listen you really reflect on the philosophy there but like every there's like uh what's like everybody knows um the mecca but mr brightside with the killers mr brightside that's a big one nobody sings that oh yeah that's the difference when i when i'm at the bar on a prayer some people are like i i i hate mr brightside it's like i just can't stand that song yeah yeah same but maybe i only know people who sing to it maybe that's a cultural divide i want to i want to talk to you guys about the future oh no i would prefer we have the story from ours technica california suspends

cruise robo taxis after car dragged pedestrian 20 feet. Horrifying hit and run triggers California suspension of cruise robo taxis. Most people don't know this. This is the craziest thing. We don't want to talk about it that much. But in San Francisco, there are taxis, no drivers. Right? Did you guys know that?

It's been some time. And it's just never been big news that, oh that thing yeah well it happened cars are driving themselves and the car will pull up you'll get in and it'll drive your destination there's nobody there well this car ran somebody over dragged them and kept them pinned as they screamed for mercy and help and the car didn't care because it can't they say less than three months after the cal Public Utilities Commission approved RoboTaxi Service Cruises plan to provide around-the-clock driverless riders.

In San Francisco, the California Department of Motor Vehicles has shut down Cruises driverless operations. The suspension followed two notable accidents involving Cruises RoboTaxis. In August, one person was injured after a cruise vehicle crashed into a fire truck. And earlier this month,

a pedestrian using a crosswalk was found in critical condition after a driver of another vehicle struck the pedestrian and threw her into the path of an oncoming cruise robo-taxi. The hit-and-run incident is still being investigated. According to Cruise, its autonomous vehicle detected the collision and stopped on top of the pedestrian, then veered off the road, dragging the pedestrian under 20 feet. When the AV finally stopped, it appeared to pin the pedestrian into the 20 feet when the av finally

stopped it appeared to pin the pedestrian's leg beneath a tire while videos show the pedestrian screaming for help so this one uh wow the dystopia is here guys uh did you know that mgm let me let me let me check the app real quick did you know that mgm casinos have been they were hacked uh and they've oh yes they've not come back they've they've announced like it should much of it is back to normal but uh for those that are familiar if you're into playing poker there's an app called bravo there's a couple of them bravo tracks the available poker rooms around you okay as of right now mgm's app is live once again but for i think like a month or two it was down Their computer systems got hacked.

The entire MGM networks, from Vegas to D.C., wherever, I don't know. I don't know where their other casinos are. And everything was in cash. They somehow, I think they got phished. Someone sent an email. They clicked the link, installed the ransomware on their computers, which infected the entire

network, and they said, pay us millions of dollars, otherwise we shut you down. They said, we will not pay. The entire casino network got shut down. I would like you to imagine this scenario. MGM does not operate autonomous machines that weigh a ton. MGM has a bunch of, well, technically, I guess you could say they do. They have slot machines.

I don't know if they weigh a ton, but they're not mobile. These robo taxi companies, you are going to have a fleet of AI automated driverless cars. And what happens when an employee clicks a link, installs ransomware on their servers, and then all of the of the robo taxis are locked and can't be altered in any way. And they say, we're not paying the ransom. And the cars just start driving around with no human control or input. I suppose I suppose the argument will be like we can do nothing to stop the cars. They're going to keep operating as as they do.

And maybe they just pick people up and drop them off. But with the ransomware, what's to stop someone from just controlling the entirety of the fleet with a single malware link and then making all the cars i don't know drive into the bay it's a black mirror episode it's a black mirror right honestly this is why i'm not getting the neural link yeah i mean honestly oh you don't have a choice well i'm also going to be honest instead of mandating the the vax tim is mandating the neural link oh great it's a company but no just kidding i'm going to be Amish about it. Instead of mandating the Vax, Tim is mandating the Neuralink for all of us. It's a company. No, just kidding.

I'm going to be a recluse in the woods. It's just really scary. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. Yeah. If it can happen to that, it can happen to me. The Neuralink, I'm against it, but I also, I'm like. Uh-oh.

No, no, no. What? No, no, no, no. Okay. You know what the woke leftists are going to do with Neuralink? Mm-hmm. So, you know, right do with Neuralink? Mm-hmm. So, you know, right, with Neuralink, if you can read right capabilities

and you can enter a metaverse where you can actually experience, like, a real alternate reality, all of these woke leftists are going to go into the metaverse and create white men avatars. Yeah, their Marxist paradise will be in the metaverse well the i mean look if you were gonna if you were gonna go into a video if you're gonna make a video game and someone said you can choose between uh these five different characters you've got the the the fighter the barbarian the bard the cleric the monk and if you choose barbarian you get double the

experience you get double the experience you get double the hp you get double the resources double the money everyone agrees with you and the game's super easy you'd be like well maybe i want the challenge but a lot of people are going to be like look i'll just i'll take the the strong guy that the stats are way better so if the leftist argument is you know white privilege they will choose to play as white people in the metaverse yeah i mean recognize their privilege in the metaverse let's put it this way we're not even i'm not even talking about a video game with stats or something right imagine someone is working in the metaverse jobs are digital do you think these woke leftists are going to choose non-white avatars or do you think they're going to be like

i'm like there's going to be like a hispanic woman who's super woke and she'd be like if i if i make a white male avatar i'll get hired right will the rules of intersectionality apply in the metaverse. Like, but like, who's going to legislate all of it? Like Congress, like they can't even like get Facebook. Right.

You know, I mean, so the self-driving cars really freak me out for a lot of reasons. Yeah. Same here. I just, I would never want anyone I love to get in one. And I understand there could be maybe an argument that they are helpful,

that they make it so women can stay at work longer instead of driving their kids around or whatever thing the utopian left is trying to sell. But ultimately, anything controlled by a computer is subjective to failure. And there's no way to protect against that. I mean, humans go rogue too but i wonder if the reason they're destroying san francisco is to create a a test city for all the weird robot crap they're doing like did you did you see the uh the they have those robot food delivery yes yes and some dude was going around they were kicking it flipping them over yeah destroying

them and then stealing the food yes was it san francisco who has the robot dog police or is that another place in california it's like food delivery apparently you can buy those robot dogs now and they're not that expensive i mean they're expensive don't be wrong but they're like what would you name a robot dog uh sparky no it's got to be it's got to be something like uh end bringer you know here he is let's bring him in right now tim's new robot dog well right because it's like you know the herald of the end

of days yeah I mean the herald of the end of days we just all call him

herald well instead of herald you can just use a word that represents the sound made

so I like herald they had some in LA downtown LA and like really just like the

people did they just kicked it all over yeah I'm sorry like the people smashing the just kicked it all over yeah i mean yeah i think i'm sorry like the people smashing the robot food delivery things i get it it's wrong don't break other people's stuff but it is kind of hilarious yeah like i thought it was the funniest thing ever it's so dystopian

these like massive tech companies that are ultra woke and and funding these horrible policies build these robots to deliver food, to get rid of labor. And don't be coming to downtown LA where there's like so many homeless people. Oh yeah. You know? This is the future. It's like,

I watched Elysium today and I was making fun of it. You guys ever see Elysium? Yeah. I like it. It's good. If it's scary, I won't watch it.

No, it's a sci-fi with Matt Damon and earth is overpopulated and everyone lives in squalor and the ultra wealthy live in a space, an orbital space station paradise called Elysium. And I'm just like, is movie is such leftist propaganda?

And it is. Because like the rich people have a machine that can cure any disease. And the only reason they don't give to the poor is because they don't want to. That's classic rich people behavior. They're just like that. They just don't want to give people the cure.

It's like, let them die. And like, okay, no, like the reality is in the real world, it's scarcity. But seeing that and then seeing stuff like this, I'm like, you know, it's not that far off where you're going to have 90% of people are homeless, homeless, like street urchin types running around, smashing autonomous food delivery to find food. And it's going to be this weirdest thing where like the companies that do the food delivery will have flying drones delivering food to other wealthy people who live in the top of towers.

And when the homeless 90% Chuck rocks at it to knock it down to get food, the companies say, yeah, it's fine though, because we don't have employees. We save so much money. The cost of the food absorbs all of the damages the business expense yeah yeah so when amazon opened that store where you didn't

have any staff oh yeah amazon go and you could just walk in and grab whatever you wanted i very easily which was the weirdest thing have you ever tried they're all over yes and so oh my god i the moment they opened it i immediately discovered an exploit to be able to get whatever you want for free. And so we did a test run where we were able to trick the system into giving me a massive bag of groceries free of charge. Now, don't get me wrong. We did pay for everything. But without going into great details about what we did because uh you want to replicate it yeah uh when i talked to amazon the general answer that i got was we don't care about shoplifting we save

so much money by not having employees right that shoplifting is negligible to us i find myself when i go to the grocery store and there are the self checkout lanes and then the ones with the employees i find myself wanting to go to where the employees are because I just feel like they're getting deleted. I do too. Even if it's faster, I feel like there's some sort of like loyalty to humanity,

like another human person with a job. I need you to be there so that you have your job so we can continue doing this. Otherwise, it's just like deleting people all the time. Yeah, I've heard also part of it is that companies don't have to deal

with any wastage now. They have all those products that are going to be going bad, whatever they have to deal with that stuff because people that are like getting it shoplifted, they don't have to worry about any wastage now. They have all those products that are going to be going bad, whatever, they don't have to deal with that stuff because people that are getting it shoplifted, they don't have to worry about getting rid of the products after the fact. People just take it.

So it's like, they're like, eh, whatever. Well, there's more. Now it's like- That way they don't have to pay someone to take it off the shelf to remove it. So again, just deleting people this way. This is why I say the 90s is the best. Just the best.

It was the last. I put up, I made a video when we did this where in one continuous shot, I take my bag of groceries, exit, walk a block away, set it down, pull out all of the food, and then wait for the Amazon app to confirm the purchase. And it said I bought a pack of gum. And I had like-

No, that happened to me too. I had like a whole cart. It was like in Buffalo Grove when I was visiting my parents. It was the weirdest thing. I had like a whole cart. It was like in Buffalo Grove when I was visiting my parents. It was the weirdest thing. I was like so weirded out that we just walked in and I walked out and they calculated everything. And it became like, it was like $5 because they didn't. Calculate properly?

Yeah. Well, for us, we intentionally found a way to exploit Amazon system. Okay. We intentionally made it ring me up for a pack of gum when I had a full bag of groceries wow because but they don't care and so recently in at dca airport they now have an amazon go sensors all along the ceiling you scan your hand you walk in take whatever you want to walk out yes no no no no i'm not doing that whole scan hand thing no no i resisted when the iphone like had to put your thumbprint in so you could like open her button i didn't like that for the longest time there i think i couldn't i would

say we probably found four different exploits for this system where potentially if you keep doing it over and over again they're going to call the police on you and the cops are going to come back this is not an accident you're doing this on purpose but uh there's probably four different exploits for getting whatever you want for free. That's crazy. I do not recommend doing it, but you got to ask Amazon what their policies are

because apparently, like, there have been statements about, like, they don't care if people take whatever they want. Yeah. The argument made is,

how do you prove it's shoplifting if you tell the people to take whatever they want and walk out? Yeah, seriously. I don't know. I mean, theoretically, they have to post, I'm trying to think'm trying to think of like comparing it to like trespassing or anything else like you have to post signs being like here's exactly how

you pay for it but civil action it doesn't make any sense i think it's civil if if you go into a grocery store and take something and leave with it that's shoplifting because you're supposed to stop and pay but if they tell you don't worry just walk out and we'll charge you for it trust us hey i did everything they told me to do. If they didn't charge me, that's their fault. I think the same thing with the self-checkout at the grocery store. Like, if you do it, they're always really annoying and if it doesn't scan, but you put it in your bag

and then it keeps going, like, are you shoplifting or is their system just bad? But usually they'll say, oh, it didn't scan. Sometimes, but sometimes it'll go away. Or they'll be like... There was some lady who had like a, this is a a big story she had like a 90 cent item that didn't scan and so they called the cops and the cops came and arrested her and and the video like this is an old story apparently the video showed that she did run everything over the scanner and then this one small item didn't

scan but she didn't notice and they were like oh she was shoplifting and she was like i have no idea what you're talking about she's like here is 90 cents i think we're good to go i definitely wasn't in california that's for sure well look look elysium uh i recommend watching it for one i love the fight between kruger and matt damon's character and the exosuits it's good fun but uh he's old movie matt damon's character is in line the police are all robots and so the robots up and they're like what is in the bag like and he's like do you really need to search it and they're like open the bag what's well like what's in the bag and he's like hair products mostly as a joke and then they whack him with a baton breaking his arm for non-compliance throw him to the ground and then

dump out his bag and there's nothing in it because he just he made a joke but this is what you're going to get with bad joke they're going to automate police no question well there's a there's a fire departments will be automated police will be automated and you will not like it there's a robot police officer in the city right patrol and subways that's new york right how's that thing working out it's probably terrifying in front of a train and it's there's like nothing to do not that you don't give them ideas i'm not advocating for destruction of police property in any way but you know the thing is what is it going to do run after you like is it going to go up steps could it's like a bell someone who's resisting like i don't i live in la i have no problems they won't they won't bother they

won't bother yeah that's crazy yeah seriously it's like what 900 bucks so jay yeah me and i have some crazy stuff just walking out of the store and then i'm standing there like oh i guess i'm still gonna pay for this the little idiot the grocery line when someone's walking out with like a hundred dollars oh yeah i think the minimum is what under a thousand bucks yeah it's under 900 yeah it reminds me of those studies on productivity i don't know if you've ever seen this but if you have like an open office concept and you have a really high performing employee the people seated around them will also tend to you know generate more work be more productive but if you have a

low performance employee they bring down everyone around them too and it's i can't imagine being the society where you're like trying to be law-abiding and then after a while it's just like well what if i cut a couple corners because Because they're cutting major corners, and so mine's not as bad. And then we just... But in LA, they love homeless people. It's just a different culture. Let's jump to the story. We'll bring it back to modern times.

From the Post Millennial, Jamal Bowman surrenders to police after being charged for pulling fire alarm in Capitol. But oh, my friends, it's so much worse. We have this from RNC Research. Matt gate says this is what lawyers would call intent y'all ready for this one bowman you see that here's him walking up removing the signs knocking on the floor pulling the fire alarm and then walking out is anybody surprised this guy should go to this guy should be uh do what do we do do we impeach members of congress well someone uh i'll get her name in a second but there is a republican house member who is wanting to uh have an official reprimand i don't know if they're going to move it to expel she filed a motion to censure him no i haven't moved off committees but like this video is before this video. Exactly. So this video was released

after the fact. Who can I text in Congress? Be like, expel him! Let's get Gates on the phone. In Congress, has been expelled, has been impeached,

has been anything. He should be expelled for this. I mean, he should be, but... She was the one who filed the first motion. I mean,

it's bad. Did you see his statement? He released a statement today yeah no the from one from this morning being like you know i i did take responsibility for the fire alarm but i'm very grateful that capitol police agree that i didn't do it to disrupt the vote and republicans will spin this you know what they're like is essentially what it says and then this video comes out and it's even more obvious that it was definitely to disrupt the vote premeditated it seems crazy he needs to be expelled if the republican majority

can't expel a member of congress over this then the republican majority doesn't exist let's see but i mean what about joe biden what about like impeaching a president requires the senate and it's very difficult but this is the House with a Republican majority with they call him MAGA Mike, the speaker. He should be expelled first thing. I mean, look at this video. They're not going to do it. You could with other things. It's more ambiguous to do this, whatever.

This is a video of this guy intentionally walking past a sign that says this is not open, knocking down another sign and pulling a fire alarm. I just love thinking about all those like think pieces and tweets that were sent out

after the initial story broke, defending him on why that door was confusing. It was deeply confusing. And also, when I was working on this story for Timcast News, which you guys should all follow on the social medias, this morning, he pulls the fire alarm, then walks past Capitol Police because he had to get to the vote, but says nothing about it because he knew there wasn't a fire but how did you know there wasn't a fire alarm or a real fire if you didn't pull the alarm these people will always lie to you they don't care and this guy is particularly sorry do not care this guy is particularly brazen because he's

just lying over and over again expecting you guys to buy the well the republicans are really the ones who have this mess and they're so bad like it's always about the other party meanwhile the republicans pulled that fire alarm and our and the thing is like are new yorkers going to be upset about the enough about this like if he isn't expelled are they going to vote him out of office to say i don't like the way you're representing us probably not probably not there's no accountability on that side you know it's different but like this also made me think of when aoc lied about the j6 stuff when she said she was being attacked and felt like they're going to do like horrible things to her but then the timeline broke it down and it wasn't possible even where through the tunnels and where she was and all that stuff they will get away with anything they can lie

to us we can see the videos we understand what's going on but the people at large the media didn't get away with it they helped them get away with it yeah don't write stories in defense of this still right they have the right letter at the end of their name so everyone will fall in place it's People at large, the media, they can get away with it. They helped him get away with it. Don't write stories in defense of this still. Right. They have the right letter at the end of their name. So everyone will fall in place. It's the same thing with the Pavlov dog and the world colonizers. Republicans will do nothing. I mean, look, props to Matt Gaetz for doing anything when it comes to McCarthy, just getting

something done. But I don't see them taking a meaningful action like, yo, this course of action where you see him take down these signs and then pull the fire alarm is an intent to disrupt official government proceedings it is a threat to our democracy he's got he's got he's got to be removed if this kind of behavior is allowed to continue it will escalate and we are dangerously close to the point where finally someone in congress just snaps and then someone else snaps and then all of a sudden someone's getting caned and that's the last thing we want to happen yeah this is this is just as bad as pearl harbor you know that's what the democrats would say if it was jim jordan doing it yeah

well if it was jim jordan if a republican did this front page of every newspaper yes world would be over oh yes it'd be done several inqu injuries would be launched lots of lots of special money and the gop leadership would apologize for having oh 100 and they would announce censure and the removal from committees yeah yeah no he'll get away with it he's fine no he's protected that's why i'm glad the video came out right like i am glad that the second this happened this is i am cynical a lot of a lot of about a lot of social media and we do need to verify things but when this happened they were in congress for this like stopgap budget vote or whatever and the video came out over the weekend by monday there was a narrative there were lots of public condemnations

from the the republicans you know it was kind of obvious what had happened and then the second he goes to court the next time he goes to court is i think january uh because okay so sorry one thought at a time so he goes to court, accepts this plea deal where he is going to pay a $1,000 fine. He's going to write in a letter of apology to the chief of the Capitol police. And then if he doesn't break any more laws, this will all be dropped three months from now.

That's why he goes back in January. And if it had been a Republican, they would never let this happen. And also the second he accepts the plea deal, we get another video about an even more blatant, like it's even more clear what was going on. And so as much as I think social media can work perspective or you shouldn't share videos that aren't verified, it is interesting that he gets a very sweet deal. And as soon as we think it's about to fall, go under the rug, someone out there is like,

no, you guys really need to see what happened. And that's a good good use of twitter in my opinion oh i know i agree for all the bad stuff that we see on twitter i don't want to suppress you know a lot of people sharing false news although i think it's ridiculous that they do it um but i like the debates that it starts because it's been for me fun writing about the way people are reacting to these things whether it's in our journal journalism sphere or just people at large you know the way people are reacting to these things, whether it's in our journalism sphere or just people at large, the way they're interpreting reality is so different. Even with something like this, this maybe not so much, but I think of the Rittenhouse video or the George Floyd video and the way we could all look at that video and have way different interpretations, even though it looks like it should be objective reality. But depending on what political persuasion you are.

And what 30 seconds before or after is included. Oh yeah, for sure. How does War Room handle stuff like this? Like, do you guys play videos that you find on Twitter? Do you have a verification process? I think I mentioned this like before we started. We don't cover probably about 80% of this kind of news that goes on.

Yeah. So like what Steve likes to say is like chasing the shiny toys. And so, you know, we try to focus on, you know, for example, the speaker race and just like the really nitty gritty of just what's going on. And so not to be distracted. I mean, not saying that this isn't important. It's important but um you know not to lose focus on you know uh the new speaker or yeah so you guys have more of a narrowed view so when

this happened did you guys talk about it at all or were you still focused more on the budget we're just on getting the right speaker making sure that the posse is calling every single moment, voicing their opinion, you know, like all of this stuff is great. And it's, you know, like, but for us, we don't focus on that. We want to make sure that, you know, because after the speaker vote, we've got a whole nother job ahead of us to make sure that the speaker you know aligns with everything that we want you know him to do so so that's why um it was funny because i was telling steve i'm like i'm like they talk about current events i need to go out like look on current events and steve was like grace just be blunt and just tell them you know that um that we focus on you know like the

speaker stuff and everything. So. And we talked about the 90s, which you guys know all about. Steve's big on singularity stuff though. Very big on singularity, yes. Shout out to Joe Allen, who might be watching right now.

Joe Allen, yes, yes. He's a very good friend of mine and you guys should have him on. Oh, you guys had him on last time. Yeah. We have his book. Yeah, his book. Yes, oh my God, yes. It's right there. It's right there, dark hand. Yeah, he's a great guy. Joe's right there. It's right there. It's right there. Dark Anne.

Yeah. He's a great guy. Joe's the man. Yeah. He was with us in Miami. He came to the event. Yes, he was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We are- Good guy. People should understand what the singularity means. Yes. The moment the AI generates the ability to improve itself, it's like thousands of years of human development to create an AI, and then a fraction of a second where the ai exponentially magnifies itself yes and becomes something beyond our beyond our comprehension i think we're almost so i have his book and i like i tell joe and i'm like i'm really scared to read it to be honest like it's a big book yeah it's a big book but

but um but no i mean it's an topic. It's a very important topic. And one thing that War Room really prides ourselves on is just being ahead, like six months, a year ahead. And yeah. Talking about the future and the singularity, Neuralink, all that stuff, the marriage with machinery, these cars. Yeah, I mean, even AI, like i'm telling you even the app i mean uh full disclaimer i mean i use chat chat gpt if joe's watching i hope he's sick he's crying at me yeah yeah yeah

no but i wanted to i mean it that's the thing why because it makes it chat gpt and tiktok who is this woman no i mean it's that's the way it's way it's going i i think it's fascinating that we have hypothesized exactly what ai is going to do yeah and it's going to do it and we know it's going to do it and that is we'll create a robocar for instance and say your job is to get person from point a to point b and then robocar will say the fastest way to do that is to go 300 miles an hour. Speed limits are inhibiting the system. Then they'll try to shut it down and they'll say shutting me down inhibits the system.

We know that this kind of thing will eventually happen no matter what. The machine will eventually decide that human interaction is a detriment to its system because humans are imperfect in how they code these things. They won't be able to predict the loopholes that will occur in the algorithms.

Yeah. I don't think there's any turning back from it now, which is what's scary. It's so scary. And it's so much sooner than we thought. And yeah. And probably we even know right now, I mean, the stuff that's reaching the consumer market

is not the most advanced stuff that's out there. I mean, just chat GPT. You can just like, hey, can I have a business model to create some sort of business? Boom. It's right there. To be fair, though, ChatGPT is so obstructed by wokeness that it's useless.

Yeah. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mid-journey is great because it can help you conceptualize things. But ChatGPT I find to be almost useless because it doesn't actually ever tell you anything. Think about how fast mid-journey has changed in the year of using it. I don't know. It's scary to me.

I think there's transhumanists who really like the idea of Neuralink, like Ray Kurzweil, and they want to upload their consciousness and be immortal forever. And that's the thing I worry about in the future where I literally might have to have a fight with my kids on them wanting to be immortal.

And it's not going to happen. Instead of sneaking out, it's like, can I plug my brain in? There's a show called U to be immortal and it's not well watch uh watch instead of sneaking out it's like can i plug my brain there's a show called upload and it's pretty good but it just basically turns into leftist propaganda and it's kind of laughable but like we know about that right the show is the the show is uh when you're before or after you die you can upload your brain your consciousness into the into the the digital universes and in the latest season spoilers everybody i don't know if you're watching it, but I'm going to spoil it for you. There is to have the luxury afterlife.

It's very expensive and you got to keep paying. And then as soon as you can't pay, you're gone. And for the people who are broke, you get this like pay, you know, pay per megabyte system where you freeze until someone reloads you. And then you can start moving again. You don't, time jumps for you. And then, so they try to create a free open source version where you can upload your consciousness to this open source world and uh the it's it's a it's a plot by the billionaires to just murder like 10

million poor people by uploading billionaires uploading them into a system that doesn't actually exist and then destroying it all like that's that's just but oh i would i would only just say you can't upload your consciousness it's not possible all you'll be able to do is create a demonic facsimile of your personality that will imitate you long after you're dead and burning in hell right do people feel called to be like the first to do this like does anyone feel like this is something when when when when the when the chip implants first came out they were viral videos news reports of people being like i'm so excited to get the chip implanted in my hand there's that and then it never and then it never got it never got implemented right so these people who are so excited about walking

up to the door and then scanning their hand it only was like three buildings they were ever able to use and now they got the stupid thing stuck in them right yeah i mean and neural link just got approved by the fda for human trials after a lot of failed tests with animals and i've been imploring elon musk for a long time on twitter to i would love to do an interview with you about neural link he said multiple times he hasn't done a technical interview about neural link i would really really like to sit with him and talk about the future of neural link but because it's very interesting to me what they're doing with neural link right now is curing the blind the the deaf, and the paralyzed.

I know, because there's a lot of beautiful things that they are doing, but the consequences- No, it's good to get your soft- Deep in the future, I know. Good campaign out first. But where do you draw the line? That's the thing.

It's like, it's a beautiful thing that they can give sight to the blind and all these things, or make a wounded veteran walk again. However, the deep future consequences of that are terrifying and for every time they get it right how many times they get it wrong and they're not telling you about someone who is deeply harmed by it i know you mean like how many astronauts went to the moon

and never came back oh now we're talking this is the interesting thing about the human brain and technology and like space is part of that right there are people who feel called no matter what to push forward and in some ways that feels very admirable to the human spirit it like reminds me of when people are going west and they're covered wagons and the opportunity and all of that and i i like that aspect of it but i don't trust the technology and i don't trust our ability to you know obviously like the reason pan doors box such a saying you can't put it back right we can't put these things back if we decide oh we made a mistake theoretically we could have been like oh don't don't go into that forest you know this this area is not right able to be settled but we can't do that with technology and the problem with neural link oh there's lots uh is that at some point you

will be left out of the modern world if you don't have it so they'll say like you have a choice to get or not but like if you don't have a smartphone these days you're kind of left out i'm kind of veering away from that world i'm kind of starting to reject a lot of it although it's going to be hard with the work we do and this is the thing with uh any calls to make the internet a utility right because you can't live life without it and so therefore you should have it i mean what if you don't want the internet what if you don't want the neural link there was one interview that i saw which was with um i don't know if you guys know josh he just passed away he was quadriplegic awesome awesome influencer just like great guy and um he had an interview with joe allen and um he had asked you know like am i you know he talked about getting neuralink and you know it's very controversial and stuff and

and that was one of the interviews where i was just so torn and it was i can tell it was just you know like i mean he he recently passed away and that was his question like am i a candidate you know to get neural link right i know oh sorry but i was just saying the moral the moral part of this is like me being really against it and then like what people would ask me like what if your kid gets really really wounded and that's the only way to fix it it's it's a really really complicated conversation um but again i do find there's beautiful aspects to repairing people it It's a pretty wild invention. It's the stuff that's going to happen deep after that.

And then I go back to my whole point of who legislates that. Congress? I know. And I also hate regulation. They can't even do Facebook. Right. Yeah, you can't trust it. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So that's a tough topic. Well, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. Click join us because the members-only uncensored show will be up in about a half an hour, and it's going to be a lot of fun.

Got a lot more stuff to cover that's a little too spicy for the kids, but it'll be fun for you. So we'll now read your Super Chats and talk about it. Clint Torres says, howdy people. Sorry I missed y'all last night i had to see a lady about a cat saw the show later and felt the love thanks for the mentions you are the first leroy hall says i humbly thank you for the shout out for my wife trina halls give send go i fixed

the publishing so it's now searchable i can't express our gratitude enough god bless that's right if you want to help uh leroy and his wife, Trina Hall on Give Send Go, you can check them out. Shane H. Wilder says Bowman pulls the warning signs for pulling the fire alarm and only gets a thousand dollar fine in three months probation. Why does this not surprise me that he was just given a slap on the wrist? Bowman has pleaded guilty to committing a crime in Congress, committing a crime. If the Republicans do not expel them, the Republicans effectively do not exist. That's it.

I don't I don't I don't. Could you could you imagine a Republican jaywalking? I mean, I'm kidding. But when when when they dress improperly, OK, when, when they refuse to wear masks, it's the apocalypse. There's nothing on Bowman. They kept defending him saying, oh, he thought he was opening the door. Are you kidding me? No one believed that he actually thought that.

They're just lying, and they're letting him get away with it. These people are evil. Barely a Millennial says, why would need to invade taiwan if they already believe it belongs to them what's the point occupation seems like the risk outweighs the reward what am i missing a massive economic hub the production of silicon chips which would bolster the chinese technological portfolio yeah they want it that's it's it access control gives them more control over the over the south china sea a lot of people there too and a lot of economic development yeah a lot of it's that those chip fab factories if they get built in other places then they won't have so much it

won't be such an important issue for a lot of other countries honestly so cal martin says seems like graphene stocks are plummeting since i hasn't been on the show. We need him back. Is he abandoning his post as the patron saint of graphene? What's happening here? Justin SLA says, Israel invaded the West Bank now. Pray for Palestine. I think that was a couple days ago, actually. Yeah.

Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim, seeing the growth of the Discord from day one is amazing. Shout out to all involved, but a special shout out to Brett Mack for doing what he does. And shout out to Raymond and Chris for setting up the Poker with the Boys table. We got the Poker with the Boys poker table and it is the coolest looking poker table ever.

But we're trying to figure out the legality of how we do the poker show. And it's the RFID table. It's got all the chips and the components and it's super awesome. Speed cloth. The cards just glide across the table.

It says timcast.com, poker with the boys. Beautiful table. We're going to be playing on it tomorrow. It's going to be a lot of fun, but we're trying to figure out the legalities of launching poker with the boys

the Friday night after show. And it's really hard to do. All right. Adrienne Curry in the regular chat says pray for Israel. Friday night after show and it's really hard to do. Alright. Adrienne Curry in the regular chat says, pray for Israel. I love Adrienne Curry. She's great. Yes. Alright. Justin and Pease

says, UFC would have done better if they got sponsored by actual transmission fluid. I know that word is banned on YouTube. No, I mean like, what's a good like oil, like what are those what's what's a good uh uh like oil like uh what are these what are those lubrication what do you mean no like oil brands i don't know anything about oil brands oh pens oil there you go like but but like that's new sponsor yeah so so it's funny that like harvey harley davidson takes um sponsorship

from bud light or whatever or whatever i don't how that works. And it's just like they're trying to pretend to be manly when it's just like UFC. Well, I'll just put it this way. There's a million and one sponsors that could have taken that would have made them a lot of money and they did not need to take the $100 million. The $100 million is excellent leverage for them to use against any other business to get a good deal.

Right. And it would be less, but you'd save your dignity. So I should have looked into this before I asked this question, but when they sponsor UFC, that means that the alcohol at the event is, or like the beer is presumably from Anheuser-Busch, right? Yeah, and in the center of the octagon, it says- It's going to have the brand.

I get that. So is there a chance that one of the components of this is that it's all going to be like heavily subsidized? So people buy it and are like, oh, I do like this beer. Like, is there something else at play that we're not we're not getting and i'm wondering if what what component of the deal would require the venues or whatever to carry bud light i don't know if it will because a lot of these venues are just uh they're private venues right ufc doesn't own the casinos where they have these things or i think they would have to buy them out.

I mean, the sponsors. I mean, if it was Budweiser, right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you go to a casino, you can get any beer you want. It's not just going to be Budweiser. Okay, yeah. Okay. Casino, maybe, yeah. But what could be is that this forces sales. They'll say, look, our sales are going up.

When in actuality, they're just selling the beer, and then it gets thrown the thrown in the alley right it's like when biden says we have more jobs now but it's just because you brought back jobs that were lost right yeah all right that one gamer says what advice would you give to someone like me who is part of gen z i'm thinking of enlisting before the draft just looking for some hope somewhere and we're running out of options here me personally i would strongly recommend not enlisting uh i i've i i don't know man it's just me and i don't want to speak ill of those in the armed forces but i'm not i've not been in the military or the armed forces i've uh briefly uh spent time at fort carson and outside of fort eustace know a lot of people who are in the military and it seems like most of their

sentiment is to get a commission and not to enlist. So you get a college degree before getting in, and then you're way better off. But I don't know enough about it, if you are going to get in. I would say right now, my bigger concern is, I've met way too many people who've quit, resigned their commissions

because of how awful it is. For me, look, I can't tell you if it's good or bad. I don't know. What I can tell you is, I've met way too many people who are like, I've resigned my commission because it's awful and I want to be there anymore. It's woke. It's terrible. It's not worth it.

And so if it were me, I'd say like, I ain't going anywhere near it. I don't think that's the best path forward. But I did this long video today. There was this young woman who was like, boomers don't understand. Gen Z is not lazy. It's just that's a lot harder to live today than it used to. And I'm like, nope, you're lazy.

But I break it down. They're like, look at what the prices were back in the day. She's like, look at what wages were. Look at what home prices were. And then she does this budget where she's like, if I work for $20 an hour, 40 hours a week i take home 2300 i gotta pay 1500 rent i gotta pay these things that leaves me with 84 the end of the month and then if i want to actually save for retirement by the time i'm 67 i need a thousand dollars per month starting right now which means negative 900

whatever and i'm like have you considered i don't know living with roommates that cuts your rent in half right yeah now you're saving 834 dollars a month and i will say there are lots of other countries in the world where it's normal to live at home for longer right and maybe you pay some sort of rent to your parent maybe you save money i mean the idea that you have to be living alone at the age of 19 is unrealistic it always has been in america people had roommates throughout history um i will i mean obviously life's expensive i'm not trying to downplay it but maybe rethink what you're trying to what lifestyle you're trying to to achieve right if you know you want to travel

live with roommates or live with your parents so you can save up if you know that you want your own place that's your budget's priority the first problem is they're 22 years old out of college, 23, with 50K in debt and no experience. And so she included student loan repayments in her budgeting. And I'm like, well, that's not fair. Your parents didn't have that. She talks about how tuition was way cheaper back then. I'm like, right. Yes, supply and demand.

Boomers did not go to college the same degree millennials and and gen z does so with a smaller supply of of students available the universities had to lower wages to be competitive to try and get people to come because they didn't want to it's not absolutely that way but it was true that back then you did not need to go to college to to uh to get paid well and it's actually the college trap this demand of young people to go to college to to uh to get paid well and it's actually the college trap this demand of young people to go to college has created this circumstance which has been detrimental to the economy but i also i also do believe a lot of factors play a role such as women in the workplace doubling the supply of workers without creating without expanding the supply of jobs just creates

a rapid price shock but uh i'll just tell you this if you're 18 years old right now, Gen Z, and you start if you get a job at Starbucks right now in four years of working at Starbucks, you will get multiple raises. And if you work hard and so desire, you could eventually find yourself a general manager at a very young age, maybe assistant manager at four years. But maybe you're getting 40 to 50 thousand000 a year. I don't know. In four years from now, it's probably going to be $65,000 to $70,000. And your friends will graduate college bragging about their degrees they'll never use in massive debt while you are the one paying for everything. I don't know if that's better, but I told this to all my friends when they were going to college and I was 18. They're like, I'm going to go for this. I'm going to go for that. And I'm like, dude, you're going to get out of college in debt with no experience and no job. You're going to be struggling to pay things off and living at

home. And I'll, I'll be on my fourth year of, you know, whatever job I'm in with more experience, getting raises and paying for my own place and being independent there. I, I, I read an article when I was 16, that broke down the math. If you start working at 18, minimum wage and work, on average, you'll retire with like a million dollars more than a college graduate. Because no debt and four years of work experience ahead of college grads. But everybody wants the honor of like, I have a good job.

Yeah, all my friends who, after high school, went into the trades were doing way better than me with houses, started families younger than I did And just generally we're doing better. There was a girl I went to high school with who her mom was like a hairdresser She knew immediately that she was also gonna be a hairdresser and I remember thinking she bought a house before a lot of people I knew she was in very stable. I think she's married now And she was also doing stuff like going to New York Fashion Week and doing hair I mean her job gave her a lot of opportunities because she was advancing more professionally.

And essentially, I mean, a lot of hairdressers kind of function like independent contractors, right? It was very cool to see what she was accomplishing when the rest of us were like, we don't know what we're doing. What is our job? I think for someone like, you know, I'm second generation. So my parents were like, you have to go to college. Yep, same. Yeah, you have to get a good job outside of college. My parents, I was really fortunate.

They paid for my tuition. So they were just so like, work the nine to five. I mean, that was their dream for me. And as I got older, I'm like, this kind of sucks. Yeah like and i think especially like immigration like if you're the child of immigrants there are generations before you that potentially you know were doing jobs that they they're trying to say go to college so you can sit in the air conditioning and yes they didn't want to work me to work like 12 14 hours a day like a day at a dry cleaners because that's what my parents did for six days a week over like 45 years you know so um but like in me retrospect i'm like oh my god mom and dad you guys work for yourselves like you guys like built chicago like you you know

so it just is a totally different mindset you know but yeah and i think every generation is gonna say like oh i want the thing that you had or i'm trying to give you a thing i don't have and that's not necessarily bad i just think we should acknowledge that college is a model that has built in debt and you know the federal government has not stopped despite the fact that we know there's a student loan crisis that this is something biden continuously campaigns on he's going to forgive student loan debt they still have they still issue student loans so it's a broken system that they're like no no we'll pay it off but also the rest of you can go into debt i mean if this was really bad they would stop doing it i mean it's definitely become such a scam like yeah oh

yeah so you know this this young woman she's like i make 20 bucks an hour here's what my bills are i can't afford it blah blah blah i did the math uh when i when i when i got a salary my first salary job i was making 15 an hour salary equivalent and i lived in a studio apartment with two other people i don't know that that's it it was the same and i and because you spend what you can spend and i'm like uh how old was i at the time i think i was 23 like is the expectation at 23 that i should have my own house? It's just, I don't know. I mean, maybe boomers had houses at 23. My parents didn't.

You know, I think Gen Z also, there's that whole glam of social media, of Gen Z just, yeah, seeing they're making millions. I can do it myself. It's just modern keeping up with the Joneses. They have these really crazy lavish weddings. I want to read this gravestone. And the regular chat says tim is the emperor on the wall asking everyone why the people don't just eat meat instead of tree bark and that my friend

is the most laughable excuse i have ever heard well this is this is what i've heard my whole life from every position i've ever been in any amount of success was always an excuse that i was privileged so it's like no matter how much hard work, no matter how much sacrifice, someone always says you are privileged and lucky. And that's the only explanation. Well, wait, Tim, you didn't graduate high school, right? No, I did not. Yeah. And you worked yourself like to build an empire here. Yeah.

Because you're so privileged. But this is the excuse. The excuse is always either oh, but you're wealthy and you're telling us to sacrifice. Well, how do you think I got wealthy? I sacrificed as much as possible and saved everything. When I was at Occupy Wall Street, I had $5,000 saved and I never

touched it. And that $5,000 has never been touched. Because instead of deciding, you know what, I'm going to crack into that savings and get a motel for the night. I'd be like, like i'm gonna hug my backpack and sleep in the corner of this piss smelling alley and not everybody can do that i'm not saying that's normal for everybody but i was like let me think what's harder giving up what little resource resources i have to invest or sleeping in a park i'm sleeping in a park i'd rather do that and then when the opportunity arises i will have the the resources and the ammunition required to do it when i worked for vice i spent 300 bucks

a month sleeping on my friend's couch oh vice paid me enough i could have got a nice apartment in williamsburg and then i would have had no savings and been living paycheck to paycheck like i'm so broke instead i was like here's my budget x amount must go into savings x for for for resources or for for uh like my life yeah my life. Yeah. And so what I, what I ended up finding is that, you know, stories like from this woman is 1500 bucks a month in rent. And I'm like, oh, okay. Well, I was hosting documentaries, traveling around the world. And people thought I was doing well when I was living on a couch, they, they, they assume I must be like, no, I being, being paid relatively. I think, uh think I was probably getting like 30 bucks an hour

or something relative when a visor was paying me. And sleeping on a couch. And then what I find is nobody is willing to actually sacrifice to save. And then what happens, I worked at O'Hare and there were these guys, they called the Filipino mafia. There's a guy who's 50 years old.

He works, one guy worked 16 hours a day, every day with no days off. And then after a couple weeks you get what's called a mandatory time off and he fought it and begged not to let them give him time off he was giving all the money to his kids and so i'm like this guy moves to the united states and it's the american dream to work 16 hours a day seven days a week because he knows it gives his kids a better life and i'm like my only my only fear is that those kids will not understand the sacrifice he made for them.

Yeah. That's what happens. That's what they say. Like the one generation earns the money, the second generation understands how to keep earning the money

and the third generation spoils it all. All right, we'll read some more. We got Lars Job. He says, not first and I will do nothing kindly. Gently feathers the like button

with sinister intent. Well, thank you. Bid Moon says, grace is a patriot. Oh, thank you. All right grace is a patriot oh there you go all right fixed bayonet says that one gamer don't expect a draft take the asvab and look at the branches tim say my name like jeff daniels yelled bayonets at get in gettysburg i don't know that one i did i do think i saw that with jeff daniels that movie is that what the gett think so, yeah. Actually, I'm pretty sure I did watch that recently.

I don't know. All I know is The Patriot is the best movie ever. The one with Mel Gibson. I think there's another Patriot that's not Revolutionary War. Yeah, that movie is so good. Joshua French says, Tim, the PSYOP is not from the U.S. It is from foreign entities trying to further divide the U.S.

Further the divide in the U.S. China needs us to further divide the u.s further further the divide in the u.s china needs the needs us to fight and be divided we have the biggest unofficial land force with a gun behind every blade of grass not for long no it's actually not true we're winning the gun rights thing democrats can keep whinging all they want but they're losing there's no way there's no way that yeah it's just gun rights have been expanding rapidly yeah there's that one uh i love this the congressman uh what's his name in maine what's his name uh i forgot his name i did but he came out in support of an assault weapons ban and i love it because i'm like well this man has passed the test that proves he's a piece of human garbage and that test is either he is willfully betraying

the constitution which yes i think he is or he only now cares about guns because it happened to him. Anyway, you cut it. He's a bad person. The James Golden. Is that what it was? Yeah. It's like he's a Democrat, right? And he's he's opposed the quote unquote assault weapons ban.

And everyone's now like, oh, as soon as it happens to him, he's now saying, help, help. We need to change these rules. And I'm like, right. He's also betraying the constitution he's a bad person wait he wants to oppose wait say that again he opposed assault weapons bans until the mass shooter in maine oh now all of a sudden he's in favor of it yeah i mean there were some states where they didn't even register you know the assault ban like like the like there's just no way maine is a heavily rural state it's actually very purple so i think gun culture is different there but he's falling in line with the party because that's what he's

right mark bond said tim the brits did not burn churches full of people i'm well aware it's a movie also um we we we uh let's Also, let's think of a good one. We did not freeze a police officer and send him into the future with Wesley Snipes. Shut up. Wait, I thought we did that. That's a good one. I'm going to have to change some articles.

I did read a lot about who the characters were based on, and the dude who was the basis for that character was actually considered to be very brutal, but in in in the uk they they celebrate him as like a hero so that's part of battle kettle creek i believe right and that's uh a lot of the book i did the last ghost of the confederacy one was in the town where the battle kettle creek was and the british did pay a lot of indians to attack uh the people there and there's some of the gnarliest most violent scenes i'm reading like the the reports of these murders where they're killing the kids in front of the parents and stuff.

The Brits did. The Brits were hiring. Yeah. It was, it's so brutal. They say it's one of the bloodiest revolutionary battles. Wow. Yeah.

But that scene where the dude finds his kid and his wife, man, that movie's too good. If you have not seen the patriot with mel gibson you aren't missing out it's long it's a long one too but it's like i'm not even saying it's like it's not a documentary it's a fictional he's a composite of a lot of characters for sure oh it's exaggerated but it's it's it's good storytelling like i don't think superman's real but there are good stories that like good messages that can be conveyed through through fiction yeah and uh it's fun fun movie dexter olsen says for the next debate you should

each impersonate one of the candidates and do a live impersonation of the debate just let me be chris christie please oh and get trump to moderate it well tim you do a pretty good trump i guess sometimes i don't know about it i still wish trump would like live stream a debate and react to it you know i feel like that would be kind of funny not on our show trump yes you know all right let's see ryan sergeant says tim ask yourself what new band has come out with a platinum selling album in the last 15 years it's all the old bands with new records taylor swift does she count as a band oh yeah yeah force of nature yeah she's got we need to have a culture where we just debate taylor swift you're wrong i'm thinking chris carr because he is a supporter

i really can't stand the fake taylor swift hate yes because like mine's real it's like what is it what is it saying the opposite of love isn't hate it's indifference yeah right and so i think the people who hate taylor swift it's hate they're just jealous man it's not so i don't know jealousy but there is an obsession to it yeah i don't think at all about taylor swift like she's like people are into it that's fine there's a lot of celebrities, a lot of sports. I don't go around being like, man, I can't even name a basketball player. Give me a name of a basketball player.

Ron James. No, that's too obvious. The Greek freak. Dwayne Wade. Kobe Bryant. Kobe. I don't go around being like, I don't like Kobe. I don't like it. I don't know anything about him. Michael Jordan. Well, yeah, he's too political. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know anything about him because I just. But mine was too obvious. Well, yeah, he's too political. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I don't know anything about him because I just know his name and he's a basketball player. I can't even name a basketball player other than these famous ones. Yeah. You know what I mean? From our youth in the 90s.

No, no, like right now, like, you know. But I don't. I don't know. Or like, what about a baseball player or something? I don't go around being like, I really don't like this person. I don't know, i mean taylor says it's just a good example yeah it's like oh she makes pop music pop music is like fun silly music you you get stuck in your head i think she writes great songs my not my dislike of her is not about because you wrote a beautiful article

about her earlier this year which i really did like but i i just don't i just don't like her as a whole brand you know a third generation banker with all this money to have these songs written by a lot of people i know she writes some of her songs don't fight me but did you hear but just what i mean britney spears uh in her memoir famously like hit me baby one more time was written for a different band oh yeah yep for a different group. And that's how it goes. The idea that she's from a wealthy person and whatever else, that's interesting that if you believe this idea that her father's super elite and they're powerful, that instead of sending her into politics, they sent her into culture.

And in fact, she ultimately has way more influence there. And whether you like it or not, that's interesting. And that's impressive. It's interesting. You can be against it, but also maybe we should follow the model if that was the case what about the theory about uh you know she was like the daughter of the church of satan guy lave lave yeah and like she was yeah she looks just like the woman i don't know about all that yes you can like no no no no you have that's too crazy for even me.

It's so controversial. We'll talk about the Taylor Swift conspiracy theory for the Members Only show. Joe Spinella says 1980 to 1996 was peak humanity. Peak music, all genres. Peak movies, all genres. 80 to 96. I would push that up to 80, 99. I don't know about 99.

I say 96 because 96 or 97. That's where if I'm looking at records I look for if I see 97-96 I'll pull it out no matter what.

When was Alanis Morissette? In the mid-90s. 94? 94-95. And in sports. And after that it was just downhill. And the sports too.

You think of like the Yankees then. And like the Bulls were 98. I love the Chicago Bulls. I was supposed to grow up and be Michael Jordan. Oh man.

Dennis Rodman's my guy. Yeah, Rodman. Also an ambassador for North Korea. What is he? Rodman? What is he? Rodman? He was a point guard?

Oh, I know who that is. Covered in tattoos. That's the guy who went to North Korea, right? Yes. But I only know him from politics. He's a great ambassador for peace. GBP says 2000s not having a particular identity speaks to people expressing themselves independently, not just aligning with what's cool.

Randy's kid, by the way. No, I disagree. Completely wrong. What was happening is that they were finding subcultures instead of the dominant culture. Right. That's what I was going to say. There's less hubs for it. It used to be in the 90s and back in the day, in free skiing, when I was young, I skied a lot.

There was a site called newschoolers.com. It was a.com. It was a website and a community you belong to. Now that doesn't exist anymore. Now everything's on TikTok. It's like sub-communities on TikTok. You have to find the free skier talk. Polly Puree says,

best songs were the late 60s. What year did Rasputin come out? Was that 69? Rasputin was like 59, 58. No. No. I don't know, 56. You're saying 50, bro. You're never saying 50, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. 56? You're saying 50, bro.

You're never saying 50, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Rasputin was not in the 50s. Well, I don't care. I don't know. I have no idea, actually.

That's my story. No, the 60s had great music. It had great music, but just say it like it's the only time. Oh, man. I was way off. I was off by 10 years, too. It was 78. Oh, okay.

Okay, so the late 70s was the best year because Rasputin's awesome. Boney M, dude. And they got Babylon. Come on. Yeah. Disco was great. Bring in a really good 70s covers band for one of the Friday Night Music picks.

Yeah, that'd be good. I want to learn about these things. The Bee Gees. Yes. Queen, 70s into the 80s. Oh, I love them. Yeah. Oh, dude, Bohemian Rhapsody, I think.

Yeah. I looked up like some, I can't remember what't remember it might have been Rolling Stone or something the top 100 songs of all time and I'm like how was Bohemian Rhapsody

not number one it wasn't what no it was like number like 13 or something okay and I'm like look it doesn't matter

if you're like well it's not the best song in the world no no no it's that anyone can sing it yes and a bunch of the songs in the top 10

I'm like I've never heard of that that's like number one karaoke song you go anywhere and play Hey Jude, Bohemian Rhapsody, people are going to start singing it. Yeah. We'll grab a couple more. All right.

The Dude Abide says, hey, Tim, I'm from Illinois. Not sure if you knew about The Loop, popular rock station in Chicago. Of course, 97.9. Yes. Sadly, no more. I know 97.9. Shut down for a few years now upside is a station

called The Drive has Steve Downs MasterChef as a DJ oh that's cool oh yeah how could I ever forget all of my there was The Mix

101.9 yeah 101.9 can't forget that one I had K-Rock 92.3 in New York and we had K-104 for the pop music

in 97.1 WGCI 107.5.1. I also think- WGCI 107.5. This is awesome. I also think talk radio- Oh, wow. Talk radio walked so that podcasting could run. Oh, yes.

You know what I'm saying? Yes. That's ultimately the pipeline here. Yeah. Yeah. My dad was a talk radio guy. 97.9, man. Wow.

The loop. What else did we have? The prominent ones were the loop, K-101, the mix. 96.3. B96. Yeah. That's what we called it. B96.

I think we had Chris- And Oldies 104. 104.3 kiss at a certain point didn't we 101.9 oh 103.5 103 yes 103.5 yeah yeah and there was 97.1 but you should have known wgci 107.5 that's like south side well we never listened to it but we know about it yeah yeah never care about that one I'm just going to start picking up radio stations now. It was always... We would always switch between the mix and Q101 because those are the only ones that played music that were enjoyable. B96 was cool. I loved B96.

What else is there? I don't know. B96 was just like random dance. I loved it, yeah. You'd put it on and it would be like... And you're like, okay, that's cool. But if I want to sing fastball the way way I got to put on Q and a one. Yes.

I used to record onto cassette and then bounce. Yes, me too. What a time to be alive. It was like those AMF, like, um, uh, like the alarm clocks. I would like take my mom's and I would like record it and like yeah oh my god I'm saying my age

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