Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #893 Judge Overseeing Trump 2024 Case Is DEMOCRAT DONOR, REFUSES To Recuse w/Lavern Spicer

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, Phil Labonte, & Serge join Lavern Spicer to discuss the judge in Trump's Colorado trial being revealed as a democrat donor, Patrick Bet-David confronting Ron DeSantis about #BootGa...te, a former NHL player killed after opponents hockey skate slashes him, & a Pro-Palestine activist releasing mice in a McDonalds. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:09 because she had donated to liberal groups. She donated to a PAC that's specifically trying to remove Republicans who supported Trump on January 6th. And now she is overseeing a case where, because of January 6th, Democrats are arguing Trump is not eligible to be president. So if you thought this one was going to be fair, surprise, surprise. Now we're hearing that Minnesota and Michigan are going to have similar challenges. So that will be particularly interesting. We'll talk about that. Plus, oh man, you know, normally at this stage of the game, I don't really care too much talk about Ron DeSantis, but he did disappear on the Patrick Bet David Valuetainment podcast where he was called out for wearing high heels we got it we got to talk
Starting point is 00:01:49 about this story because this one's oh man i think he's wearing high heels i really do and i think this this actually you know patrick bet david absolutely uh calls him out and we got a bunch of other stories uh the u.s is building a bigger bomb a very very big nuclear weapon new gravity bomb and we'll talk about that as well as trump's being gagged and then um we're going to talk about this uh a hockey story that's going massively viral that you may have seen where a hockey player got clipped in the neck by a skate and it looks like if you look at the video that the the other player intentionally kicked him and this dude died apparently like very quickly on the on the on the on the in the ring so we'll talk about that before we get started my friends head over to castbrew.com for the best cup
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Starting point is 00:03:22 like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more, we've got Joey Manorino. Hello, how are you? Who are you? What do you do? It's great to be here. I do political commentary. I have a podcast where we do that, and that's pretty much what I do. I raise money for campaigns as well. Right on. Is there a campaign you're working with right now? The lady right next to us. Who's this? Laverne Spicer. Laverne, would you like to introduce yourself? Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I'm Laverne Spicer, and I'm a candidate for District 24 in Miami. Right on. What do you do outside of running for office? Are you professionally? Well, 20-plus years ago, I started a food bank After my mentor died Started a food bank And we provide food for People that are facing food insecurity
Starting point is 00:04:13 And we feed Thousands of needy families Each and every week We help the mothers that are going through a hard time We give them baby pampers Clothing, whatever we need. So we're like a one-stop shop so far as whatever the community needs,
Starting point is 00:04:29 we are there to support those that are really having a hard time. Right on. And we got Phil and Hannah Clare are hanging out. Hannah Clare? I don't know where the camera's going. I'm not sure. Go ahead. You go first.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I missed you, Phil. You're back from California. Yes, I am Phil Labonte, very failed musician, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary. And Hannah Clare's here. Okay, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for TimCast.com. You should follow at TimCastNews on the social medias because it's the best. And Serge is here.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Yes, I am here. Congratulations, guys. We have the cup again. And I just wanted to rub it in New Zealand's face for once. So, yes. Well, all right that's very important news but let's jump to the story from the new york times colorado trial considers whether the 14th amendment disqualifies trump some constitutional experts argue that a
Starting point is 00:05:15 clause in the amendment should bar donald j trump from becoming president again but that view is far from universal among legal scholars now the big story that they're not getting into in a lot of these articles, one article just said the judge donated to liberals. Here's the tweet from Mike Davis. He says, new Denver district judge, Sarah Wallace, a Democrat donor commits reversible error by refusing to recuse from Trump January 6th case after donating to anti-Trump January 6th back back so let's just get to the specifics here october 15th 2022 sarah wallace donated to the colorado turnout project a political action committee formed to vote out republicans who supported trump on january 6 2021 and quite literally yes now specifically in colorado but that's what they're saying they say we formed shortly after colorado Colorado Republicans refused to condemn the political
Starting point is 00:06:05 extremists who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. In fact, Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert even encouraged the violence. That's not true. She did not encourage violence. It's absurd. But that's what their argument is. And with those lies, the judge in this case has donated to this organization and is now
Starting point is 00:06:23 overseeing the question of whether or not Trump should be removed. So, you know, if you thought there was going to be a fair hearing on this one, you're wrong. Now, it may be for political reasons. The judge can't just say Trump is off the ballot, but Michigan is next. And here's the best part in Michigan. The challenge is not with Donald Trump. Someone sued the secretary of state saying that Trump should be removed. And when Trump's lawyers tried to intervene saying like, hey, there's no insurrection here. They said, you have no standing. You are not party to this lawsuit. Now, that's a clever one. Next up is Minnesota. And I'll tell you what I think. I think some point next year, there is a strong probability
Starting point is 00:07:01 that one state will unilaterally at the last minute take Trump's name off the ballot. And here's the important thing. I was mentioning this earlier on the Tim Pool Daily Show, my morning podcast. A lot of people are like, yeah, but where are they going to succeed with one of these things, right? Is it going to be a swing state? And then like a Democrat district judge says, you know, OK, Trump's off the ballot, but then the state challenges it. And it's no. Imagine a state like California takes trump's name off the ballot
Starting point is 00:07:26 and then let's say trump does win but but he loses the popular vote by five to ten million votes the democrats are then going to say see look trump he's how does he win the presidency but lose the popular vote by 10 million and it's because in states with massive republican populations like california but they're so heavily Democrat, they can remove his name from the ballot. Trump doesn't get the general Republican votes in a decent amount. And then it looks like Trump did not actually win the popular vote because they removed him. That's another game they might play. But I'm curious what what y'all think. All you need is one state. If you get one state, you have precedent and then the other ones can go and follow suit if they do that. I mean, we're so third world at that point the fact that this is even being
Starting point is 00:08:08 considered this judge should be thrown off the case you donate to a pack that is focused they're only focused on bobert in colorado but they're actually focused on everybody with the mentality that trump won the election anybody that's maga they want out well she donated money to it she should be thrown so far off the case she says that she doesn't remember i mean that's MAGA, they want out. Well, she donated money to it. She should be thrown so far off the case. She says that she doesn't remember. I mean, that's the quote that Colorado Public Radio is running with, that she donated $100. And her justification was, well, I don't remember making that donation. And I didn't know what the mission of this organization was. Well, she's too stupid.
Starting point is 00:08:37 She needs to fix it. It doesn't seem like a great judge, right? This is questionable all around. I think that's the point though like it the the the substance of the case doesn't really matter it's obviously that they're after trump they're looking at for any excuse they can come up with so i mean i don't have a whole ton to add just because it's it's blatant and clear and the idea that the american public accepts it is probably the most the thing that i have the most problem with is the it's not just that this is happening it's that people are so
Starting point is 00:09:12 disengaged and uninterested or you know comfortable with this type of behavior it means that the the fundamental uh ideals that our country are founded on people don't have any respect for them at all anymore. No massive protests out there, no nothing. Nobody's even talking about it. I think you have to give credit to Jason Miller, who's with the Trump campaign, who was the one who was like, this is happening, this judge donated to this cause, and it's one of the only quotes that I have seen circulated
Starting point is 00:09:38 at all. I mean, this detail that she has donated, that she is essentially a biased judge from the beginning, and we know about it, and she was the one to decide, well, I'm not going to recuse myself, is crazy. And I think this is the type of case that they'll just try over and over again until something sticks. And if it's not this, if they run into 14th Amendment arguments, they'll shift to another
Starting point is 00:09:57 claim against Trump. So look, Trump's lawyers argued if they're even going to pursue this argument, Trump has to have been convicted under the federal statute pertaining to rebellion and insurrection specifically created to deal with the 14th amendment and he has not been they're doing it anyway and and already the judge said no doesn't matter we can i think i think she should recuse herself from this case and when it comes to him it's like justice is blind they do whatever they want to do nobody is protesting nobody is fighting against it or anything it's time for people to
Starting point is 00:10:32 stand up and stop being afraid we got to stick together we got to fight through this because if they could do that to him then which one of us is next no worse than that right what they can do to trump they can do to you tenfold uh-huh they just come and shoot us in the head the new york times says judge wallace has laid out nine topics to be addressed the trial which is scheduled to last all week they include whether section 3 of the 14th amendment applies to presidents what engage what what engaged and insurrection mean in that section whether mr trump's actions fit those definitions and whether the amendment is self-executing in In other words, whether it can be applied without specific action by Congress identifying whom to apply it to. So the 14th Amendment, Section 3, specifically says
Starting point is 00:11:15 representative or member of the Senate. It specifically says elector of the president or vice president. And then it says, and may not hold office, civil or military. And so the argument people are making is that the reason why Section three outlines the exact elected positions and then says civil office is because it views them. It views a distinction, civil office, meaning a bureaucratic job you're appointed to, whereas the other positions you're elected to. So it would seem their argument is, well, Trump can be president because president isn't specifically addressed here. But discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.
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Starting point is 00:13:04 office meant something specific back then it doesn't mean today i guess we're going to hear but but regardless of this i think it's absolutely silly to be having the the the hearing at all yeah the fact that when it came to 2020 the majority of the lawsuits coming from trump were dismissed on standing and not the merits right and then you see a case like this where there's literally no merit whatsoever, but they hold it anyway. Come on. Legal system is, well, I'll put it this way. I'm not so convinced as to say the legal system is completely broken, but Republicans don't file lawsuits anyway, so we wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:13:38 No, we just sit back and get destroyed every single time. We're weak and we let them run all over us. You're talking about definitions. They don't care about definitions They write the rules they rewrite them if they don't work for them. They don't care We make the third world look like beautiful right now what they're doing to us. It's ridiculous So I don't think we stand a chance Against this kind of stuff unless we get smart and get smart quick as long as as long as Roman Daniel is running Yeah, yeah, I should be fighting this what she doing getting more Botox or something. It's as Ronald McDaniel is running the RNC. No, she should be fighting this. What's she doing?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Getting more Botox or something? It's a joke. It is unconscionable that not only is she still in her position, but Donald Trump was talking positively about her just the other day. And I don't know what is wrong with that man to not see that two elections
Starting point is 00:14:23 were run absolutely horribly. The democrats absolutely outworked the republicans they made the republicans look like fools and it was the significant portion of it was ground game i believe that that donald trump would have won in 2020 had it not been for the republicans being so bad at their job because they let the Democrats do change the laws in Pennsylvania. No, no, no. In Pennsylvania, they were in on it. In Pennsylvania, the Republicans teamed up with Democrats to change the rules in violation of their own constitution.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And Ron McDonald knows and Trump knows this, too, that the RNC needs Trump. I don't believe Trump knows things. I think I think we have to look back at the debate. Right. Ron McDonald puts out this first statement being like it would be a mistake to miss the debate. This is a bad idea, but they know they need Trump to bring in the viewership. That's how they are going to generate money off of this. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Every fundraising email is get your Trump gold card. And then you look at the bottom and it's always the RNC. That money doesn't go to Trump. It goes to her and her sick people. So they know they need him on so many levels. And I wish that Trump would do more to hold them accountable to that. They need him her and her sick people. So they know they need him on so many levels. And I wish that Trump would do more to hold them accountable to that. They need him so much more than Republicans on the state level need the RNC to be better at organizing. I don't know that
Starting point is 00:15:35 Trump supporters who, you know, would follow him into a burning building necessarily would turn out for every single person he endorses with the same enthusiasm. And that's actually what the RNC needs to get serious about, in my opinion. You've been on the campaigns longer than I have. Yeah. It's just a lot of times the RNC just ignores the campaign. You see people, I think you're going to have J.R. Majewski on later this week. He got screwed by these people. I mean, they don't take the time to actually work with the good candidates. They work with the candidates that are going to be amenable to what they need them to do, which is go with the good candidates they work with the candidates are going to be amenable to what they need them to do which is go with the status quo go along with what gets along kick back your money to us so that we have our funded operation it's all a money game and it's all a joke it's like the gop is in competition with the libertarian party for the most useless party in america yeah
Starting point is 00:16:20 it is ridiculous and i think there's just a cultural misunderstanding i think you know they are definitely not the counterculture anymore but for all the years the dnca said we're the oppressed ones we're the counterculture come volunteer with us be active with us i mean it did translate into people who are willing to knock on doors and to be more active on a grassroots level rnc says grabs truth but i don't think it actually has strong organizations and i know the argument you know rural versus whatever no i i don't think it actually has strong organizations. And I know the argument, you know, rural versus whatever. No, I don't think that it's about that. I think that the temperament of people that are conservative, it's harder to get them to be activist types. I think that you see people that are progressives or that are upset with the status quo.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It's far easier to motivate people like that to get out and have a ground game, be activists. The people that are Republicans or conservatives that tend to be kind of activists, they tend to do things with their church or whatever, whereas the left, it's homeless shelters and food not bombs and that kind of stuff. Well, we get targeted, too. I mean, well, we have risks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Like, you know, you go out and you put yourself out as a conservative. You live in an urban area. She can tell you. She gets more death threats than anyone I know. It's ridiculous what we go through. So we can't run around. All of us don't have the bravery to say, yeah, I'm a conservative. Yeah, I'm going to go organize.
Starting point is 00:17:42 No, you might get really hurt. Well, I think that's the problem, is that conservatives tend to be cowards yeah well not this one because last year anytime every day i'm very vocal very bold and i'm out there and what i saw last year from a lot of candidates that really put their heart out there the soul gave it everything they had, ran on that American first platform. We got like no support from the party. That is that it's unconscionable and it's not a surprise. You look at people like Scott Pressler, who's probably the most effective conservative activist when it comes to actually getting people to vote and getting people registered. And I can't understand why the RNC and Rona McDaniels aren't like giving this guy every single bit of help
Starting point is 00:18:33 that they could possibly muster for him. He's effective. I think it's twofold, though. They'd have to admit that they are doing something wrong and they need him. And there's an ego and pride there. They don't want to. But also the RNC, you know, has its own behind the scenes politics. I think about when Larry Elder challenged Gavin Newsom in the recall. Right. And the RNC, even though he emerged as the leader, the RNC did not give him the support they should have. Right. And theoretically, that is one of the most important and I think under talked about political battles that we had in recent history. And the RNC did not even give him the fighting support that he needed, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:19:06 There is a disconnect between what the voters want and what the administrative size of that wants. I mean, it is sad, but to your point, they ultimately know where the money is. They know where the support is.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That's why they invoke Trump's name when it's convenient to them. And they like to be in the opposition because you raise more money if you can send an email that says, we're being screwed, they're going to kill us all, we're destroyed, Biden's ruining us, than if you talk about results. And it's sad, but it's true. It's infuriating because that ineffectiveness and that desire to be the underdog is part of the reason why the whole of the culture is so run by the left and
Starting point is 00:19:46 it translates to all the anti-semitism and stuff that's going on in college campuses now if the republicans gave people something to aspire to the republican party i mean if they gave people something to aspire to you wouldn't have the left dominating everywhere in our society. And the left does dominate every institution in our society right now. And it's starting to have real world consequences. And you're seeing it in the case in point, all the anti-Semitism and all the people that hate the Jews and stuff that you see in college campuses. Laverne, I'm curious what your experience is as a conservative. I mean, were you always a Republican? How did you get to where you are?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Well, like I said, with the food bank, I always had to be vocal, get out there, roll elbows with the politicians. So what caught my attention, and I'm going to say it again, I always say it so far as myself and so many other black conservatives was that when Trump said in 2020 why don't y'all run and take back your community because they're not helping you anyway so that's what caught my attention and that's when I decided to change and become a conservative and did your community react positively negatively? I mean, did other black conservatives decide they they would support you? Well, it was I didn't really care if they
Starting point is 00:21:11 supported me or not. And you know, I don't give a damn about that. But um, so what really, I think that so far as my community that you know, they don't give a damn because they know when they need to help. They can come to me I'm in the streets i'm with the homeless i'm with anybody that's hurting and need to help them there but um the community supported me but it was just um you know with the twitter page people start coming after me calling me all kind of derogatory names and um you know the coons the and everything else that come along with that and uh you know i guess they most of them didn't know exactly who they was talking to but they quickly found out i like that response i think that's really funny because i think they thought i was gonna be afraid you know because they called me all the ugly names that
Starting point is 00:22:04 that would run me away from the party. So, no. Let's jump to the story from Newsweek, and we'll get silly. I saw this earlier today. Patrick Bet-David was interviewing Ron DeSantis, and I was really surprised. I'm consistently impressed with Patrick Bet-David's ability to get some of these personalities on his show. He had Anthony Weiner. Now he's got Ron DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:22:28 You know, we've got two people who do booking for TimCast, and these people are terrified. But I don't even think I go as hard as Patrick Bet-David does when people really want to be on his show. So we've got to learn our lessons from PBD. He knows how to handle this. Take a look at this story from Newsweek. Ron DeSantis addresses rumors that he wears lifts in his boots.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Okay, let me just play the clip from the show. Dude, I got to play. It's a minute long. Here we go. I'm sure your marketing team points out how they're trying to troll you in the marketplace. Okay, I'm sure they're doing that. Can you bring this one clip? I know you were on, what do you call it, on, what was it, Bill Maher,
Starting point is 00:23:05 and Bill Maher talked about the boots. I've seen you walk with these boots. Go ahead and play this clip. This on TikTok went viral. It doesn't have a million views. It doesn't have, you know, 10 million views. This thing's got 1.2 million likes. And some people are wondering.
Starting point is 00:23:19 What are they? I don't even know. I haven't seen that. They have not shown this to you. Okay, what they're trying to say with this is that in your boots, you have heels. No, no, no. That's what they're trying to say. Those are just standard off-the-rack Lucchese.
Starting point is 00:23:33 How tall are you, Governor? 5'11". 5'11"? Okay. Why don't you wear tennis shoes and dress shoes? I do wear tennis shoes when I work out. You do? Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I got a gift for you. I'd love for you to wear, okay, I work out. You do? Okay. I got a gift for you. I'd love for you to wear, okay, I shop at Ferragamo, okay? I don't accept gifts. I can't accept it. I'm sorry. Oh, man. His, like, immediate reaction, 5'11". I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I think Ron DeSantis wear high heels and I just want to shout out I think Ashley St. Clair may have just driven the final nail into the DeSantis campaign coffin yeah this he's not going to recover from this and I'm not even I'm not being sarcastic or hyperbolic at all he is not going to be the president and this is this is like his I I think the guy's name was- Howard Dean? Yeah, the Dean moment. Because, I mean, the honesty, like the truth is, if you're like below six foot, you're not going to be the president. People talk about, oh, half the presidents have been, you know, under six foot and half of them were over.
Starting point is 00:24:38 But how many since the advent of television have been under six foot? I still think 5'11 is the height men give when they know they're not six feet you're nodding at me well you know they're not six feet but they can't like officially they want to pretend they're a little taller so it's like well 5 11 like no no they're actually like 5 8 and like no that's not bad i wish he would just own it well no i mean he he could own it but he's not but he's not going he's never going to be the president if you're not tall.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Can you imagine? He went from being the governor that was the face of freedom, the governor that was basically next up in line. If he would have waited until 2028, he would have probably been the Republican nominee. And now instead we're sitting around here talking about, does he wear high heels? His best hope is to get an instagram sponsorship with a heel company i this
Starting point is 00:25:26 is what happens i don't know that i believe i don't know that i believe that he ever would be able to be the president just because of his height i strongly believe that if you're not accepting society no because what no that doesn't count that doesn't know that doesn't count stop that doesn't count for men that is not the truth for men at all but without trump in the race will we even be talking about it trump is the one who put his people on this this is a trump that we you know nobody cared about these things necessarily it doesn't it i he would get on stage and be next to someone taller and that's all it would take okay because i don't think that i honestly don't believe that there is a situation
Starting point is 00:26:05 where people are going to look at like dudes on stage behind a podium. And if one is significantly taller than another, they're not going to vote for the short guy. They're just not going to do it. You know, I- We believe in you guys. Come on.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I pulled up a bunch of photos, just looking at my phone, from way before DeSantis was running for president. And I just looked up photos of trump uh trump with desantis and he looks like he's probably 5 11. unless he's been no men are 5 11. they're just pretending to be 5 10. unless he's been wearing high heels the whole time which is possible and then no one noticed until now i i imagine that he probably did he probably wore him as soon as he has probably been for a while yeah as soon as he started dating me i mean if he's wearing him now it's something that he probably did. He probably wore them as soon as he, it's probably been for a while, as soon as he started dating.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I mean, if he's wearing them now, it's something that he's been concerned with. We need to get a picture from when he got married, because he got married in his dress uniform, which might be harder to hide lifts in, and then we can do a comparison to the objects around them. That's my new theory. That photo's amazing. He's floating. Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game
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Starting point is 00:27:56 a lot of people said about this picture right here, that his uh, like they think he's wearing these fake shoes, otherwise he's got really long legs. Is it fibula? He's halfway to heaven. Fibula? The one that's like, there's no way any human has this length of bone, except for Ron DeSantis. Yeah, someone said DeSantis' heels are so high, it looks like he's being photographed mid-rapture. I just think if he had responded- Unless it's Photoshop, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I just wish he had responded to this more positively, embraced it with humor, because it would have been a different- I don't know that it would have changed his campaign completely, but it would have given him the personality that right now people critique him for not having right he's lifeless that's the problem this was this perfect moment to do something and i'm just sad they didn't embrace it right i'm not trying to make him feel bad about his height you know i i he can be any height he wants to be apparently but it doesn't have to be like this and they made it this weird sticking point that now people are always going to try and bring up i don't i i mean i still strongly feel like we'll only have a tall president i guess it's not about it's not about it's about the way that
Starting point is 00:28:57 people unconsciously react it's it's it's not something that people are going to be able to identify on their own they're going to say they'll just be like, I don't know. The other guy just looks more presidential. It'll be, he's more commanding. I trust him. It's a deep part of human psychology. It is all about charisma. And when it comes to men, taller men are looked at as an authority.
Starting point is 00:29:20 That is just the way people react. That is not anything. No one thinks about it at all it's attractive privilege is all it's a 100 attractive privilege and that's the way that it pans out for men with women if you're a if you're if you're a large woman you're not as attractive as smaller petite women that's just reality i'm not trying i think it's even beyond attractiveness i think you know some of the stuff that we look for to to indicate health well-being that are deep in our psychology,
Starting point is 00:29:46 that, you know, they're young and vibrant. Height is one of them. I mean, even babies in, you know, tiny newborn babies prefer symmetrical faces. There is something deep in our minds that looks to seek for indicators of health or strength or whatever it is. I just think, you know, maybe he could never have been president, but I just think the way his team handled this was a bigger issue. How tall is the demented guy in the office right now, Mridin how tall is he he's six feet wow okay imagine if ron just said well i can't accept the gift but i can try him on and then stood up and put him on
Starting point is 00:30:15 you gotta get out of the lifts they're probably tough to get out of though well then you could see it because the thing about it is that uh this clip this image right here it's like the third time we've talked about this. The front of his foot looks like it's smashed up against the boot, like it's really tight on his foot. There's a clip from an old late night show when Jake Gyllenhaal, people are like, how tall is he? And so he just takes off his shoes and they measure him on the set of whatever generic late night show it is.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And he comes up less than six foot, maybe 5'11", maybe 5'10". And he just sort of nods along and laughs with it. And then that question just dies away. No one asks that anymore. And I think making this into sort of an internet meme is way worse. It's terrible. It just makes him look like a joke.
Starting point is 00:31:00 It makes him look insecure. But outside of this, Patrick Bet-David asking him the question was a tremendous opportunity to end it and he doesn't have the charisma to do that. His response is, well, first of all, the fact that he's never seen it.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But that's a lie. He's seen it. He probably cries himself to sleep watching it. But that's just the thing. He should have been like, oh, I've seen this clip. I've seen this clip. Yeah, that's a good one. It's not real. been like oh I've seen this clip I've seen this clip yeah that's a good one
Starting point is 00:31:26 it's not real but instead he's like what I've never seen this it's like you've never seen it no then you got a terrible PR team that's not actually
Starting point is 00:31:34 you know I wonder if it's true he really has never seen it which would make it seem like his PR team is like he's so insecure about his height
Starting point is 00:31:41 we have to hide it from him but that's not great either he hired the worst possible people in communications imaginable who took the front runner to the bottom yeah if you're the president if you're running for the office of president and you don't think that image is important you're gonna lose period you have to understand that half the that most people make their decision about you with their gut. They don't think about it. They're rationalized. They're,
Starting point is 00:32:06 they're, they're emotional reaction after the fact. That's just the way human beings work. If you don't portray yourself in a charismatic way, the reason people love Trump is because he's charismatic in a way that's attractive to them. And that's also the thing that some people find repulsive. Nobody likes Trump because of his policies,
Starting point is 00:32:24 because Trump doesn't have any policies. The policies are going to change depending on the last person he spoke to. No one. Hold on. Hold on. That's true. No, no, no. His policies change depending on what Tucker Carlson said.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Fair enough. OK, depending on what. But to be fair, there's that Tucker Carlson anchor on Trump. You know what I mean? I mean, I think that Tucker Carlson puts thought into the policies that he would or would not back. I don't think Trump does. I think Trump is just driven by his gut.
Starting point is 00:32:51 See, but we can forgive stuff that Trump does because of his charisma. You can't forgive DeSantis because, I mean, he's like a lump on a log. It's just, it doesn't work. And Trump has proven that he's tall because Barron is like, what, 607 feet tall? That's the comparison. Put DeSantis next to Barron. He will never's tall because Barron is like, what, 607 feet tall? That's the comparison.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Put DeSantis next to Barron. He will never stand next to Barron Trump. It's going to be Trump, Trump 2024, Barron as VP. And he's just like 10 feet tall at this point. Everyone's just like, we must vote. His knees don't fit under the desk. He's just so enormously tall. Barron's going to be the first emperor of the European Union.
Starting point is 00:33:20 There's a lost known statute in the Constitution that says you have to be at least 35 to be president or at least 10 feet tall. And Barron Trump is like, I'm on my way. Barron's qualified. Yeah. Well, that's your presidential news outside of Donald Trump. We just skipped over Pence dropping out over the weekend. That's how boring the Pence campaign has been. We were hanging out in Pittsburgh. And I'm like, I look at my phone.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It's like Mike Pence has dropped out. And I was like, oh, and I hit retweet. And I was like, what were we talking about again? What were we eating? I think we had, what did I have for dinner? I had Thai food. Thai food. I said it to my stepmom.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Much more interesting than Pence. Yeah. I said, I told my stepmom, I was like, oh, Pence dropped out. And she's like, didn't he already do that? He's running? He dropped out January's like didn't he already do that he's running he dropped out january 6 2021 to be to be fair to be fair you know even the fact that we're making fun of ronda sandis is better than nikki haley she's just i don't know she's in second place and is is a lump is a lump on a log she's loved by a certain crowd though over 60 year olds they
Starting point is 00:34:21 absolutely love this woman and it's it's this old war mentality this old america has to be in charge in the police state you know and all that stuff well someone's got to blow up these kids right yeah that's that that's the new kind i want a department of offense not defense is that she said that yeah she said i want a department of offense you go fight the woman i mean that was a joke i made a long time ago to my friends that we don't have a department of defense we have a department of offense and all my anti-war buddies are laughing. And now she's just coming out and saying it. So who does she want to go to war with?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Everybody. You name a country. I mean, fair enough. War with Italy, if she could. But I just, I don't see, I mean, currently there's, there's the argument that Iran is, is funding Hezbollah and that it's possible that there'd be some kind of engagement, but that is pretty far some kind of engagement. But that is pretty far down the road still
Starting point is 00:35:08 and I don't think that it's a direction that we should be trying to go. The American people have no desire to go to war with Iran at all. American people don't have an appetite for war right now. Right now, American people don't want to go to war for anything.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We just want to fund proxy wars through Ukraine and everywhere else country can you imagine they send our people to fight in ukraine our soldiers to fight a war in ukraine well they've already deployed thousands to europe for the war in ukraine disgust and we have special forces there these are lives of people they don't understand that part now i guess uh ukraine's kind of uh following the back burner zelensky is the you know he's yesterday's news back on seeking arrangement looking for a new sugar daddy that's right that's right i think that the the the war in ukraine has been basically decided you okay down there no this is so funny it's true i i mean i i don't think that anyone that's serious believes that russia is going to
Starting point is 00:36:02 give up any of the territory that they've taken now and i don't see any reason why the u.s should keep giving money to ukraine i don't think russia's looking to take more territory in ukraine either if they if if the ukrainians and the russians can say okay this is it i think that that it could they could have have some kind of ceasefire there would have to be there's going to be new borders drawn, and that's just the way it's going to be. Zelensky doesn't want that. We'd have to stop paying him so much money. It's much less fun for him.
Starting point is 00:36:31 The U.S. doesn't want that either because they'd have to stop laundering money through Ukraine. It's not going to launder itself. That's so true. Everybody's making a killing on this one. I hate to say it, the best thing that could happen would be Russia wins and we don't have to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Russia did win. Because if Ukraine rebuilds, guess who's rebuilding yeah everybody in here is tax dollars just russia won yeah the the it's it's fascinating if you look at the start of the war and the territory gained by russia and the argument i get from uh more establishment conservative types is no no russia wanted the whole country yeah sure like no they wanted the land bridge to crimea like that's what we've been saying non-stop now they have it and now nothing's changed there's no advancing it's just locked and russia got what they wanted yeah and we'll never know when it really ends because the money laundering would stop so this will go on into the
Starting point is 00:37:15 next i mean well i i know i think i think it'll likely end um because israel's firing up true that's a good point they gotta figure out just how to launder it right through there and we'll be right yeah once they get the bank accounts all set up i don't think we should be sending any more money to ukraine when we have people right here in the united states that are suffering and cannot afford to pay their rent and then stay in sleeping in the streets amen yep that's as simple as that isn't it it? Sure is. But for some reason, you get Mitch McConnell. What did he say? The biggest priority was funding for Ukraine? Yeah, funding Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:37:50 He should go over there. He can have his little strokes and the next is Zelensky. Wow. Him and Lindsey Graham, deploy them first. I mean, that's the craziest thing. At least Nikki Haley's husband is actively deployed right now. He's in Africa. But, you know, she therefore is willing to send her own husband to war. It's a bold
Starting point is 00:38:05 choice, in my opinion, but, you know, all of the politicians who call for funding for war want to send your children and your siblings and your cousins. They don't want to go themselves, and they don't want anyone they actually know or are related to to go. I think Lindsay just likes the war stuff because it makes them look more masculine, and we all know what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Oh, I think these people are just funded by massive multinational corporations in the military industrial complex and so they're going to go on tv and warmonger 100 but let's uh let's jump to this story from deadline joe biden talks about watching an ai generated deepfake of himself i said when the hell did i say that so apparently biden wants to launch some AI safety regulations and guidelines and things like this. They say President Biden signed an executive order on AI billing the U.S. as out front of other countries when it comes to establishing guardrails around the fast emerging technology. But Biden told those gathered in the East Room that other steps will require congressional action. That will be a much more complicated process as lawmakers have been in a stalemate for years when it comes to any meaningful action on tech giants. Speaking to reporters after the White House ceremony, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said that all that is effort to craft a bill.
Starting point is 00:39:12 This is about the hardest thing I've attempted to undertake legislatively because it is so complicated because it's so complicated. B, it affects every aspect of society. Schumer said that he and the rest of the bipartisan group of lawmakers will meet with Biden on Tuesday tuesday to talk about the legislation i think we're in a post-legislation uh era of this country yeah i don't think legislation is going to get passed unless it's nonsensical and irrelevant or jammed into an omnibus and uh when it comes to major issues like ai it's just going to happen and no one's going to do anything about any of it. So you look at where the internet is today and kids have access to adult content and nobody cares. In fact, there are libertarians who argue they should.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's the parents' fault. And I'm like, well, I guess it's like saying it's parents' fault if a kid sneaks, if a kid goes to an adult bookstore and the guy lets him in. I think at a certain point, there is a shared responsibility between the people granting the access
Starting point is 00:40:04 and the parents who are supposed to be watching their kids with that being said ai stuff is just going to keep happening there's not going to be any regulation and it's going to get wild and then that's it there you go you'll live in the pot you'll eat the bun china is going to control it all yep i feel confident that china whether or not the u.s passes some kind of restrictions because mark mark andreason is is frequently talking about doing some kind of limit on, he really wants a full stop on AI research because he thinks that it can get out of hand real fast. But I think that that doesn't really matter because it's not going to be something that the whole world is going to abide by. Even if the U.S. companies or companies that had a large portion of their business done in the U.S., even if they committed to stopping, that doesn't mean China's going to stop.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And I don't think that China is as cutting edge as the U.S. is, but I think that they would be or they will be quickly if the U.S. firms and companies stop developing. I mean, right now, Google's as much in the military industrial complex as raytheon is like they're the they are exactly the same type of of you know involvement with the with the warfare state and the surveillance state so there's no incentive for these companies to actually stop no matter what the the president passes or executive order he says i just don't see it happening yeah and for me part of the danger with ai is that it's marketed as just something fun that we try out and play right now i mean every time you get access to uh you know photoshop just unveiled a tool that uses ai so you can use ai to generate things but that is refining the ai the
Starting point is 00:41:40 more exposure the more people use it the more essentially free beta testing they have for it uh the more complicated of a tool it becomes to unravel. And I just don't think that, and look, I openly identify as a boomer in terms of technology, but I just don't think there's any way for the people who are legislating to legislate effectively and fastly enough to be ahead of this. We're already behind it. That's why we're trying to play catch up. And I certainly don't know anyone who can effectively talk about the ramifications of AI in a way that would eventually make it into an effective law. Half of them can't even open an email and they're the people that are going to
Starting point is 00:42:12 do our AI legislation. Some Democratic, I think it was one of the Democratic congressmen from North Carolina. He used to do TikToks from the Capitol and he was like, today I met with, you know, the head of technology at the Capitol to get my laptop. And he deadpanned asked me if I needed help learning how to open the laptop and learning how to launch an email. Wow. Feinstein basically stayed there dead for six months. So it's just, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And these are supposed to be our leaders. The executive order is basically going to direct the Department of Commerce to develop standards for authentication and watermarking. Impossible. Impossible. They'll make the standard. It'll be exploited by them. That's what they'll do. They'll make a standard and they'll say, this label certifies a
Starting point is 00:42:51 video organic, and then they'll just charge companies for that organic label. So you're going to be a news organization and you're going to go to this system and you're going to be like, we're going to upload the video, we're going to certify it, and then they're going to stamp it. And then you're going to pay your monthly fee or whatever or your license per content fee.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Just like if you were getting other government stamps on your product. Or if you're an independent journalist and you take video on the ground, what's to stop anyone else from saying, oh, no, this doesn't have the right certification or you didn't upload it correctly or we have questions about this so now we're going to lock down your content because we think it potentially could be ai generated based on literally nothing other than we don't really like what you're filming yeah i mean it's it's not that i don't want there to be regulation i think ai is i'm fearful of it but it's just hard to think of a way that would be effective and not open a whole bunch of other problems right you're right. Anyways, I can ram on. I'll just continue to talk about why I'm scared of AI.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Okay, here we go. No, I mean, this is the thing. I've had other people suggest to me that when I'm doing research for articles that I should turn to ChatGPT and ask it questions. And ChatGPT can be an incredibly effective tool. But I was just sitting with someone in the office who was using it to double check a math equation and ChatGPT got it wrong. And so you just can't trust that the AI intelligence is
Starting point is 00:44:10 actually reliable, right? I mean, it eventually will develop its own agenda. I do not trust it. I don't care what Elon says. I'm not convinced that AI will ever be creative because currently AI is, is a, essentially it can only know what's on the internet now it doesn't come up with any ideas of its own so i don't and i'm i'm not in any position to make an authoritative statement about ai uh but i am skeptical that it could be creative in the way that human beings are sure but, but I imagine, you know, once it reads every book and listens to every song, it's already at that point where it knows what people like
Starting point is 00:44:53 and then can make pop music. Granted, if you want to make art music, sure, weird experimental and weird sounds, it could certainly do that, just increase the instability in the algorithm, and then it'll output something a little bit weirder so i don't i don't know what creativity is going to mean in that context when i say creativity i'm i'm more thinking in creed not so much creative
Starting point is 00:45:14 like art style or or musically but like creative as in like innovations in fields like i don't think the ai is going to figure out how to do cold fusion i disagree i think it will you think you can figure out because i my my impression is that without the without the the information already being there i feel like it it wouldn't be able to come up with innovations was that so it's like sudoku so they've, the periodic table, for instance, periodic table of elements, when it was first made, there was like huge gaps in it. And they were like, there's probably something there
Starting point is 00:45:51 based on this already. And then we're filling it in and they were like, whoa, there's like a whole section here. And so what I think, it's going to be like a Sudoku puzzle. Once enough data is plugged into the AI, it's going to spit out, hey guys, see these things right here? There's a particle there, a particle there, there's an element there. We're going to be like, wow spit out hey guys see these things right here there's a there's a
Starting point is 00:46:05 particle there a particle there there's an element there we're going to be like wow we could not see these things and then it's not going to know it's going to say based on all of the pieces laid out i'll put it this way we're loading all the puzzle pieces of this 50 billion piece jigsaw puzzle into this machine and then it's sorting them and then showing us the picture and we're like there's huge gaps and where there should be things here now we know what pieces are missing we know what to look for but it's but it's also going to be able to uh predict what those pieces are going to be especially on like you know things like elements for instance and and particles and permutations of various compounds or whatever it's going to be able to be like this you know i remember watching
Starting point is 00:46:41 these old movies where the scientist like inputs into the computer you know a formula and then press enter and then it's like formula unstable and i'm like well how's the computer no and i'm like oh back then probably not but today yes oh yeah you'll be able to input a sequence and then it'll tell you like here's what will happen it's gonna know much more than we can think it's gonna really advance i think exponentially very fast and instantly yeah it's gonna be a very, very quick transition. Within 10 years, it's going to be really advanced. I don't think 10 years.
Starting point is 00:47:10 You think even faster than that? Even faster than that. Because when the singularity happens, it will be instant. If it's faster. It's scary because they'll use it against us somehow. It always starts good. It will use itself against us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's going to be a tool that's going to end up probably destroying us like everything else ends up being. We said, oh, Alexa, even Alexa was so good. Alexa's reporting people to the cops. But that's why I never understood the draw to Alexa because it's always listening.
Starting point is 00:47:33 That seems like you bugged your own home on behalf of Amazon. How many crimes has Alexa turned in their owners for? It's ridiculous. Do they really? Yeah. I know a few people
Starting point is 00:47:43 who got caught on, I don't know them personally but i see them you can subpoena the recordings from alexa the first thing you should do is get those things the hell out of your house it's craziness it's craziness i had a boss who's like we'll put them in every office and i was like i have to leave this job i really want that everyone should understand that if if you have concerns about alexa you should make sure you shouldn't have a smartphone you know you need to keep that we should all move to the woods in the mountains no i mean this is the hard thing which is that i understand some technology is really valuable and
Starting point is 00:48:11 can change the lives of people advanced business this that and the other but ultimately what are we sacrificing to pay for right all these things especially again i go back to sort of the free access to ai or you know low cost access to some AI programs that are essentially allowing you to test AI out and it's testing you out. There is a cost and we're not going to know it until it's too late. And that's what I'm fearful of. Yeah. I have Alexa in my apartment, but I don't have Alexa. where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino.
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Starting point is 00:49:26 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. At my house in New Hampshire. Why would you have it in your apartment, Phil? Because it's just the apartment. It's not the house in New Hampshire. You crazy. It's not the Fortress of Solitude.
Starting point is 00:49:41 You should protect all of the fortresses, even your satellite office here in west virginia the apartment is not is not a uh a fortress so you can talk to your dog when you're gone is that what you're saying no a little bit no no not at all all right let's just jump to this wild story here this is uh this this was the big story of the day so uh you know we can talk about a lot of news don Donald Trump's being sued. But the story that was sweeping across the Internet from human events. British police opened investigation into death of hockey player Adam Johnson, who was killed by opposing players.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Skate blade. Simple version of the story. A dude got his throat slit by an ice hockey skate and then bled out in the ring. Died presumably very, very quickly. I mean mean there's video of it it's horrifying however they the media kept calling this a freak accident over and over again and then when the video came out it looks like this dude matt petgrave raises his leg to kick the other guy and uh there's video of it i don't want to play the video because around here play shot content but it does look like a kick, but I will play a little bit. I won't show any of the aftermath because it's gruesome,
Starting point is 00:50:50 but the first thing I want to do is I want to show you this. Jack Posobiec has this tweet in the article. He says, read this to the end. Let's read it. So this is a post, I believe, that was on Reddit, and it says, to all the people calling Matt Petgrave a murderer, if you seriously think Matt Petgrave murdered adam johnson go f yourself the guy was bawling his eyes out on the ice and in the dressing room and probably still is right now he's going to have to live with this for the rest of his life and the last thing he needs is people calling him a murderer the claim that he purposely
Starting point is 00:51:16 kicked his leg up has some merit and is a possibility but to say that he meant to seriously hurt or kill adam johnson is pathetic and. If he did purposefully put his leg out, he did so to get in the way of or block Adam Johnson from making progress as the puck carrier, not to slice his neck open. His foot clearly clipped the skate of another player, causing him to lose balance. So even if he did kick his leg out, he had very little control over where his leg was going. Now notice they say it has merit that he raised his leg, but he didn't intend to do it. Perhaps the man, Petgrave, was bawling his eyes out because he did try to kick this guy,
Starting point is 00:51:50 didn't mean to kill him, but did, right? So, a teenager is joyriding in his car and speeding, and then he crashes into someone killing him. Is he crying his eyes out? Yes. The woman in New York City,
Starting point is 00:52:02 the young woman, she pushed an old lady. Old lady fell over and died. Did she cry in court in court she sure did does that mean that these people are innocent so we have uh we have this video and uh let me refresh it see if i can try and i don't want to play too much but i'm really wants to play at all uh let's see if we can pull it up and i don't want to play too much but i want to just scroll through you can see right here this is uh matt petgrave in red highlighted and this is adam johnson and then you can see him he lifts his leg up there's no reason for him to raise his leg like that in fact if he's losing his balance that's the last thing he's going to want to do
Starting point is 00:52:40 yeah he raises his leg up right there you can see it and then hits this guy in the neck but uh not something we normally talk about but this is basically the biggest story i think right now yeah it's like the only thing anybody's talking about and it's it's like it's causing a lot of uh contentious debate and as someone who doesn't i played hockey when i was little so this was like it looks like murder to me yeah i mean at least like an intentional manslaughter charges and like that because i've played hockey well well enough to know that like if i'm in the position he was in why would i be lifting my out my out my in this case inside leg that high there's just no there's no reason to maybe adam johnson was leaning down
Starting point is 00:53:19 and that brought his neck in connection to like the blade but still everyone that uses skates knows that skates are sharp probably hasn't sharp too he's playing professionally or amateur i don't know it's bro yeah yeah pro stuff i mean this guy knows there's no question yeah people are pointing out that the the guy who did the kick has like the most penalties but i don't know i don't it's it's european hockey so i don't know anything about it european hockey uh yeah they get the penalties for just using the wrong pronouns it's crazy crazy over there. That's right. That's Europe. Straight to jail. Straight to jail. Straight to hockey jail.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I don't know about murder, but manslaughter seems reasonable. Nope. And this is what really, this is one of the things that got me like, okay, we're going to talk. Human events has a story. Manslaughter would be like, you're speeding. No, actually, that would still be like a negligent homicide which i i the laws vary by state i think illinois has negligent homicide and that's like if you're speeding
Starting point is 00:54:11 in your car and you hit somebody and they die manslaughter is usually like you're going too fast for the conditions but you're going the speed limit you slip hit the brakes spin out of control hit someone and kill them and then they say you could have avoided this manslaughter is usually like someone died as a result of uh of you being irresponsible yeah right whereas negligent homicide is like you're in uh you you may have been committing a crime you were speeding but it's not like the most serious thing in the world and then in this instance if dude was intentionally trying to kick the guy that's grievous bodily harm murder if you intend to if like that that woman in new york she shoved the old lady yeah she's going to prison for eight
Starting point is 00:54:50 years that's it eight years eight years that's it she shoved the lady on purpose i'm sorry a young woman pushed an old lady on purpose on purpose and she died and the old lady fell down hit her head and died yeah and so they're putting the young woman in prison for eight years she should not be going in prison for eight years. She should not be going to prison for eight years for that. Okay. I didn't see this one, so I'm not sure. Like, shoving someone is barely a misdemeanor.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Okay. This woman in New York who did it. Oh, it wasn't into the subway. She just shoved her. No, no, no. She pushed her on the sidewalk. Oh, okay. I thought she was, because in New York, they're shoving everyone into the subway. It's like you go into the subway, you're getting pushed into the subway.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Well, I can see your confusion on these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she pushed the old lady on the sidewalk. The old getting pushed into the subway. Well, I can see, I can see your confusion on the issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she pushed the old lady on the sidewalk. The old lady fell down and died. Oh, okay, okay. And then she was like, I didn't mean to kill her.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I just pushed her. And so they gave her eight years just for that. Now this dude kicked the guy in the, you know, was trying to kick a guy and he's wearing ice skates.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That's murder. Second degree murder. Intending to cause bodily harm that results in death. I mean, I just can't be, imagine being anyone that was on the ice that day you know what i mean i mean every report that i saw said that the the guy died basically on live tv and that's tragic the crazy thing is on the 28th i was in
Starting point is 00:55:59 pittsburgh such a great city it is a great city and uh i was walking with alice and my girlfriend and i left my coat at the hotel and so uh you know it started to drizzle a little bit wasn't super cold out but the drizzle a little chilly and i'm like well i should grab a light jacket or something i don't actually have one i have like a crazy snowboard jacket and so there's a bunch of these stores and they're all selling steelers merch pittsburgh steelers football and so i'm like i'll just get like a steelers thing it'll be like a souvenir i'll grab it i go into the store everything is steelers this steelers that and then i walk in the back and there's this gray like waterproof thin jacket i'm like i'll grab this and then as i walk up to the uh the counter i notice it's a pittsburgh penguins jacket and i
Starting point is 00:56:39 was like oh it's a it's hockey i was like i don't even know i don't even know what this is because the off seasonseason right now. This guy, on that day when I was buying that, this guy used to play for the Pittsburgh Penguins. He's now playing in the UK. Was he playing for the Panthers? No, not the Panthers. I'm not sure. But he's playing in the UK,
Starting point is 00:56:59 used to play on the Penguins, and the guy, Pet Grave, is on a team called the Sheffield Steelers. That's so weird. I just thought that was kind of weird that a guy who played in the Penguins at the same time as this is happening, I'm buying a Penguins jacket by accident
Starting point is 00:57:15 at a Steelers store, a fan store, and the guy who clipped him in the neck played for the Steelers. I don't know, man. What do they think they're going to do? Do we think they're going to do anything about this? Oh, I mean, dude, the UK? Nah. They're going to investigate him and they're going to let
Starting point is 00:57:31 him go and they're going to arrest his neighbor for saying the wrong That would be very racist. Also, I was listening to the chat here that he has 71 penalties in 11 games. Is that a lot? I mean, 71 penalties is quite a bit. You're're definitely 71 and 11 games that's like i don't sound like a math guy but that's like it's a lot yeah it's quite a lot
Starting point is 00:57:50 it's numerous ones per game so it would be interesting to see this go to trial i don't know what the charge would be but you know the defense obviously can argue in a murder case you know he was accident he was on ice he didn't mean to whatever else and then the other people have all these things to point with already i mean if the if the media has dug up his penalty record what else is there i mean did these people exchange worlds in the locker room there's all kinds of avenues to pursue nah they're playing on different teams but you know what i mean like any kind of argument to say this guy has a history of being aggressive it would be interesting i don't think anyone would be satisfied by the outcome ultimately yeah it would has a history of being aggressive it would be interesting i don't think anyone would
Starting point is 00:58:25 be satisfied by the outcome ultimately yeah it'll be a lot of hockey is an aggressive sport so most of them are yeah pretty aggressive yeah oh yeah he does play for the panthers i think yeah the nottingham panthers not him yeah yeah i had no idea the uk did hockey not at all europe european league yeah no clue yes a lot so a lot of people are saying you know ian miles chong says it should be manslaughter at minimum and uh i can't believe consequences it mans manslaughter is just like no it's murder if you if you if like if you attack someone and they die, you murdered them. But I guess the argument is because they're playing sports or something,
Starting point is 00:59:09 there's a degree of mutual understanding of physical bodily harm or whatever. Yeah, but they've got to understand. You put your leg up, you're wearing a blade on you. They do that. And murder, you have to prove intent, right? I mean, that's part of it. Whereas manslaughter is different. Manslaughter is just he died.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yeah, he died because of your actions. I don't know if they have the laws exactly the same over there we're talking about it through the american legal system i don't know what their legal system is over there i lived over there but i never murdered or manslaughtered anyone so i don't know you didn't have to experience it no i never had to so you know it's crazy a lot of people are bringing up the clint malarchic is that how you pronounce his name? Malarchuk? Malarchuk, yeah. 1989. There's a video of this, too. He's a goalie.
Starting point is 00:59:49 They crash into him, and then he got his throat slit as well. And then Serge was mentioning this. What is it? The guy runs up and then pinches the artery shut or whatever? Yeah. That's crazy. I don't even know what you do. I don't even understand how a doctor could save a person who's bleeding from their neck.
Starting point is 01:00:04 What do you do to stop that? Because the blood's got to go to your brain, man. Can they pinch it off and the blood just comes from the other side or something? That's crazy. If you can prevent it from getting out of the body, like if you pinch and close it, if you can basically put your thumb over without actually stopping all the blood, I suppose. It keeps the flow going I mean not not that I'm saying that it would be easy or that it's something like a task
Starting point is 01:00:28 I could accomplish but a doctor I assumed but not on a hockey field probably in that in that well no they did yeah 1989 oh yeah I ran up and like grabbed his neck and pinched the artery shut and saved his life this one I guess they didn't know what to do well the doctors are all affirmative action doctors hired for the there was no doctors yeah well there were none they're on a hockey field and on a hockey rink and uh they all just like he's holding it and it's just spraying and pouring out well and they probably take that guy with his thumb in the neck to the hospital with him they can't pull his finger out until the last second until they're ready to do something i believe
Starting point is 01:01:01 the the guy in the in the video with malachuk was like an ex uh ex combat vet from vietnam so he'd encountered before and that was he was able he knew what he had to do which is a really particular thing but man yeah god it's crazy when i see these stories because people need to realize a single sentence can save a person's life yeah true yeah i'm not saying anything could have done here i really don't know if you watch the video i mean blood is spraying out so profusely apparently within 10 seconds he collapsed onto the onto the floor and then he was dead like he lost way too much blood probably before they could even pull the cameras away i mean that's the craziest thing how fast this happened but there's a lot of stories of people who die and don't need to if people just knew like a single sentence you know so in this instance like what do you do when someone's
Starting point is 01:01:47 got a femoral bleed or arterial bleed or whatever if someone just said to you the single sentence of how to make a tourniquet you could save a person's life and it's the craziest thing i think about this like the time span between someone is injured 30 seconds later they're dead they lost too much blood and if you only knew that one sentence they'd be alive right now that's scary or if you had first aid equipment on you you know it's not it's not hard to carry a blowout kit i i gotta turn a kit like yeah sitting under the table here man that's crazy it's not gonna do any do any good for you know you're not gonna do any good for a jugular but i always think about
Starting point is 01:02:32 these moments man there's a there's a viral video on youtube it's old video of like uh sports injuries that result in paralysis and it's just like nightmare fuel yeah but there's one video where a guy playing basketball gets frustrated so he he bangs his head on the bar, whatever you call it, the bar that holds up the hoop. Oh, God, yeah. He's just angry. He's like, oh, and he hits his head, and then he goes rigid and falls over, paralyzed.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Forever. Yeah, forever. God. Yep, because he hit it, and it hit something in his neck, and then his neck went out, and then he fell down, and he was like, that's it. He can't move. There's that crazy video of that girl
Starting point is 01:03:05 trying to do the milk crate challenge. Oh God. You know if they're doing that kind of shit. She falls down and then she's like on her spine. It's like, ugh. No, the one I saw was this girl was at a bachelorette party and someone pushed her into a pool. I think it was the bride and then she's paralyzed.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Falling in the pool? She hit like the edge. It was like an above ground pool and she hit the edge of it. Oh, wow. What do you do from that? that i can't remember she's paralyzed or she died but it was real really bad like these things that people do accidentally can have extreme consequences that's where like with the with the hockey video i i think he probably intentionally kicked his leg up but was it intentional like i'm trying to kill him you're not gonna kill someone on camera in front of all those people You know what I mean? He thought he was gonna kick him so yeah, cuz it makes sense the pads you're wearing hockey game kick right here
Starting point is 01:03:52 I'm not be life-ending, but I think he probably was leaning too far forward. He's like it's you're on ice You know, I don't know what happened He really leaned too forward and he connected with the neck and that's man. So it's all good. So it's gonna happen one cut That's crazy i feel bad for the families to be honest like they're having to watch everyone speculate about all this both sides true on air like that's just it must be awful to be going through this right well i guess i guess the question of imprisonment and criminal charges is what are we trying to do what is the goal did this guy matt petgrave intentionally kick adam johnson to kill him i
Starting point is 01:04:24 don't think anyone thinks petgrave was trying to kill the guy no no so so so how is putting him in prison serving anyone anyone's goals it makes the people the family of adam johnson feel better i i i don't i don't know if that's the appropriate means of how we spend money on our taxes i mean great it's the uk i get it but thinking about in the united states like i was talking about that that woman who pushed the old lady and i'm like why is she going to prison for eight years she pushed an old lady she'll never do it again she's probably traumatized so what's the point of prison it's to make the family of the old lady feel better because now she's being punished for eight years well that's to destroy her life i don't think it's actually fixing any of the problems perhaps the idea is we'll send a message they want to make an example so that everybody knows that if you push an old lady and she dies, you're going to prison like this lady.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And then it's just like you're sacrificing one person for a message to be sent to everybody else. I'm never a fan of that. I think it's a fear of people who exhibit somewhat violent tendencies. How do we manage that? I mean, think about the guy and his name is slipping my mind right now who Daniel Penny had in that chokehold on the subway. And then he had this consistent history of attacking people on the subway didn't kill anyone as far as i know but on the other hand caused very serious bodily harm broke a you know an elderly woman's jaw different things like that he had a consistent pattern of violence and there were minimal you know interactions with social workers and the criminal justice system and ultimately you know he was once again in a position to be dangerous and violent when he yeah no daniel
Starting point is 01:05:50 perony he did a great service that day yeah i mean it's just a question of you know what what is the point and role of the criminal justice system and you know you don't want to you don't want to punish people too harshly who have learned their lesson on the other hand we know that there are people who escalate in their violence over time. The criminal justice system is to manufacture the proper opinions and to punish people for having the right opinions and behaving in the wrong. It's a joke. You have CVS. They have pictures in D.C. on H Street.
Starting point is 01:06:21 They have pictures of the toilet paper roll so you can tell the people the brand that you want, but they don't have the actual toilet paper out because it'll be stolen. So we're talking about a criminal justice system like that. Let me pull up this story. We got this from NBC Bay Area. Alameda County DA, Pamela Price's work laptop stolen
Starting point is 01:06:40 from SUV in Oakland, the sources say. That's right. The DA in, one of the's right, the DA in, one of the DAs in the Bay Area who is apparently soft on crime is now the victim of soft on crime policies.
Starting point is 01:06:54 This isn't the first one. I had a story last week about the New Orleans Soros-backed DA who was carjacked, I think, with his mom. Well, I mean, it's not good. It needs to happen. Yes, but they want it to happen
Starting point is 01:07:06 yeah well then good that it happens to them because they need to learn they need to have no mercy on these people i i see what you're saying right and we laugh because of schadenfreude but the problem is the alameda county da is probably laughing with you do you think absolutely they intentionally do this and what happens to them they go it worked we did it we won we have destroyed the city yay and then it happens to them, they go, it worked. We did it. We won. We have destroyed the city. Yay. And then what happens is conservatives are like, ha ha, great, we agree. And they're like, these idiots are agreeing with us. These people are destroying our once great cities, and conservatives are laughing along with them.
Starting point is 01:07:35 What are we going to do about them? Vote them out! Unless the populations decide that they want to vote these people out this is going to continue to happen and it's it's been going on for the better part of 10 years it didn't just it happened overnight these these da's and stuff they've they've won multiple elections they've got their their administrations well entrenched into the the local areas and until the population decides i'm tired of it that it's not going to change and not for nothing but your average person that has kids and a job that doesn't pay attention to politics all the time they don't really pay much attention they don't know what's going on
Starting point is 01:08:20 they're not aware and when you tell them i've had the experience myself i'll tell my friends that are left-leaning i was just in california a couple weeks ago i'll tell my friends that are left-leaning about things and they just don't believe it they're astounded they have no idea and i don't blame them because look you got a family that's the most important thing in your life you got kids that's the most important thing in your life i get it but you do have to be aware of what is going on in your own municipality. We've got a guy in Philly named Larry Krasner. He's a disaster. Nobody even knows his name. They don't even know his name. This guy has turned the city into a complete disaster. Not that we were ever great. It's been a disaster since I've been born. But right now,
Starting point is 01:09:01 what we have, you can't even go downtown anymore and this what was this woman doing with a laptop in her car visible by the way how stupid this is how well you don't know these people are well who knows it's it's it's it probably was not visible who knows uh because they smash out so what people are doing now in the bay area they're leaving their their the the back gates of their vans and suvs open and they're leaving the doors open. Why? So that the criminals won't smash out the windows to come. And so if the doors right, so they walk up to
Starting point is 01:09:31 any car with nothing in it and they'll smash the windows out and then check the trunk and then leave. That's why we got the second amendment. And we're seeing this taking place throughout the United States in all of these democratic run down districts. People, when you keep voting for the same people
Starting point is 01:09:48 and you are expecting a different outcome, it's not going to happen. That's the Internet's definition of insanity. But like Phil mentioned, these people don't know. And I can say proudly that the past few holiday cycles, I've encountered many people who engage exactly as Phil said. You'll say something like, yes, X happened. And they'll go, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:10:13 There's no way. And then this is two years ago. And last year, they're like, you know, I read that. And then I was reading this thing too. And it's like people are starting to realize. Ian was mentioning this a couple of weeks ago, that whenever a crazy story comes out, he immediately has to call his mom to make sure he gets the information to her before the mainstream media can put some cover up over it.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. And it's his own breaking news to his mom. Yeah. Mom, you're going to hear the story. Here's the link. It's from this article. They're going to come out and they're going to say something. And then he's like, if I don't if I don't tell her, she'll believe some crazy nonsense.
Starting point is 01:10:40 My mother watches that stuff and the things that she believes she's probably watching this but she's never watched the podcast before i know that much but you know the things that you believe if you only get your news from the mainstream media it's unbelievably sad how misinformed these people are and willingly willingly it's all out there we know it we found to some degree to some extent i agree with you there i'm i harp. I harp on Barack Obama in the 2012, I think it was, NDAA that repealed the Smith-Munt, or had the Smith-Munt Modernization Act. Essentially, what it said is that since the 40s, the federal government wasn't allowed to propagandize the American people. Essentially, they couldn't produce materials for dissemination inside the United States. And in 2000, I think it was 12, the Smith Modernization Act was part of the NDAA that Barack Obama signed. And it happened just at the time that the smartphone was coming into everyone's pocket. And social media with the like button was essentially the most powerful mind control tool ever invented and so you've got people that have that are in in in the tech industry and stuff like that are producing these applications draw people in and people
Starting point is 01:11:58 love to use them and the federal government is given free reign to feed these tech industries tech companies and whatever information they want. And the media and the tech companies do it willingly. There was no need for payoff or anything because what they what the federal government offered was access. If you do these things, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. And that was the beginning of the the the tech companies, in my opinion opinion becoming a part of the military industrial complex and you never hear the Republicans who are supposed to be on our side about the propagandists if you never hear them talk about that act
Starting point is 01:12:31 and you never will there's only is one candidate in Texas Caroline Kane only person I've ever heard bring it up I'm pretty sure that there's a guy running that will talk about it the a.k.a guy Brennan I forget Bryn's last name but uh but he'll talk about he'd it um but it's something that people need to know yeah the fact that the federal government is not only allowed to disseminate information into into the population but is doing it in conjunction with tech companies that have the ability to literally control people's opinions, right? People will behave in remarkably different ways if they get likes or they get, you know, approval from their friends. And that's exactly what the like button does.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It gives people that little dopamine hit and those small, those kind of small dopamine hits that are not something that is a big deal. It's a little bit all the time it flies under the radar and it has had a massive massive impact on the population people talk about how in like 2012-13 everything seems so much crazier now than before that and and you hear that people my age talking about that all the time you know and i truly believe that it is because prior to 2012 2011 you didn't have the kind of consistent propagandizing from the federal government i don't i don't think so i think you said it yourself with the with the algorithms algorithms yeah but that's that's private sector
Starting point is 01:13:55 that's not that was before uh the the repealing of this act and the us government has been propagandizing for a long time a lot of the stuff that we see leaked from wikile, for instance, and from other hacker groups around that time, show they were doing this well before. And I think what they ultimately did with this was more overt. It was the Simpsons-esque super liminal where they just launched these American-backed foreign media companies. I don't think that repealing this propaganda act is what made everything crazy i think it's social media and the internet and that's why the 90s was the last decade right like every every decade is is easily discernible except for the 2000s and beyond it's a big mess yeah and it's because the internet fractured global culture american
Starting point is 01:14:40 culture and has continued to i think it's going to be rebuilding itself though i think uh it shatters into all these different pockets where people start listening to very specific things specific people and you no longer have uh i said i said this 10 years ago i was at a conference i said fame is done because of the internet and i was like you're gonna have famous people but it's not gonna be like you know actually phil and i were talking about this like metallica the biggest band ever yeah but it's because they were there was a period where culture was more unified yeah and there were fewer channels to get access to music metallica being the best got everybody but now there's probably a band very very very good very great music but they have a much harder time reaching as many people because no longer straight top-down broadcast tower.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It's more even out. Everything is niche now. But I'm kind of thinking that things will start to re-coalesce again. They'll start to come back together for a combination of reasons. One, people are, like, power naturally does this. And so we're seeing people want to be like each other. So there's trends and they want to follow these trends. But more importantly, the powers that be are desperately trying to cobble back together the broadcast tower so they can have singular
Starting point is 01:15:47 control over what people think. Yeah. And we see that a lot, you know, some like the elderly population, they stay home all day. They watch the news channels all day and they believe everything that's being shown on the news. You know, they don't search for any type of education to dispel anything that they're seeing on the TV. So that's why it's so important that you talk to them, you know, help people understand that everything that you're seeing on the media isn't necessarily true. Because the elderly in particular were raised
Starting point is 01:16:22 in a different era of information, right? I mean, when you only had the radio, you had like four channels. It's very different. Not that you necessarily should have believed everything. They could lie way better then. Could lie way better then. But also there was very few outlets to challenge it. And now we have a lot of ways to challenge information.
Starting point is 01:16:38 In fact, it can happen so rapidly, it's often hard to keep up with. And I think that's where people who are not as engaged, either because of their age or because of their lifestyle, sort of get lost. They can only get the headlines. And that's not enough. I've talked about my show idea a couple times here, which is more like a half-assed show idea
Starting point is 01:16:57 because it's like never going to get made. But the idea being that in the future, I'll give you a very quick version. The planet basically is post-apocalyptic. There's one city left. It's the last city. It it's relatively big and no one has any idea what happened to humanity or how civilization collapsed long story short it turns out all of humanity still exists they just are in underground bunkers in the metaverse plugged in plugged their brains into the neural link and the reason why the last city doesn't know this is because they they consume
Starting point is 01:17:21 information in a dramatically different way the idea for that is basically because it's happening now. Older people don't know how to use. I'm not saying they absolutely don't. I'm saying most old people don't use Twitter, don't use TikTok or Instagram, and get their information only from the authority figures on TV, so they are living in bubble world. And when you go to them and you're like, hey, here's a thing that's true, what you're believing is fake, they're like, I don't's a thing that's true. What you're believing is fake.
Starting point is 01:17:45 They're like, I don't know what you're talking about. And you're like, let me show you the tweet. I don't know what that is. You may as well be going to someone and being like, you don't know what's going on with Joe Biden because you're not in the metaverse plugged into the neural link and getting the information down. Oh, there it is. New information proving his corruption. And then they're like, what information? Yeah, he took $200,000.
Starting point is 01:18:03 How do you know that? It was wired right to my brain. If you plugged in you'd know it too i don't know how to plug into that stuff i'm gonna turn on cnn cnn doesn't talk about it that's basically the gist of the the story i was making up is basically see that what we're seeing now with how people consume information you can go to your friends and family and there's a reason why your older relatives and family holidays don't know these things and don't believe you because they're not plugged in the same way all of you are. I mean, if you're watching this show, you are plugged in. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck.
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Starting point is 01:19:18 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Yeah, you're engaged in a different way. And I think that's one of the interesting things that we'll see happen with definitely millennials, probably Gen Z, is that they are, I mean, I know more and more people, and I wish I had the data with me on me to prove this, but one of the biggest changes culturally is that people don't have cable anymore. There are tons of families that just don't have it. You know, college students who are getting their first apartments or young
Starting point is 01:19:48 adults whatever they don't get cable because they only need wi-fi because they stream everything anyways uh there is a complete disconnection from an entity that used to have access people maybe that's good on the other hand they are reliant on a very decentralized way of getting information. And that could also be bad. I mean, this is why. Well, kind of. I mean, it's centralized, too, that it's on TikTok. It's on the same platform.
Starting point is 01:20:11 It's not on the internet anymore. Like our millennial generation blew up the internet and going to different sites and stuff. Now it's on platforms. And these platforms have organizations behind these pages. So it's another centralization of a news source, which then unfortunately leaves it really vulnerable to this sort of like top-down control media narrative saying like it's going to be one way or the other. And this is the only way to hear the story. Big, big agenda. We got this story.
Starting point is 01:20:33 London and UK street news. Pro-Palestinian activists throw live mice into McDonald's. I kid you not. Here's the video clip. All right, we'll turn that down. And you've got the free Palestine they've got the they died the mice
Starting point is 01:20:50 like seriously don't do anything like this because dude they're so mean to the mice let alone like the illegal the illegality of doing this
Starting point is 01:20:58 look at this this is pro-Palestinian activists walked into a McDonald's this is in the UK they say rats at McDonald's, but these are clearly mice. Oh, God help us. That's so messed up, dude.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Hell no. Those poor mice. Like, those mice are probably going to get killed now because of that for no reason. They should be fed to a snake or something. And they want you to do it at other places? Oh, they're going to do it in Starbucks, too? What is the point? What is the point of ruining the community that you live in?
Starting point is 01:21:23 They say, hold on, look at this. They say Starbucks. They say Target. Target. Targeted boycott the big three. Start by boycotting these brands that are directly involved in supporting the Israeli apartheid. Starbucks, McDonald's, and Disney Channel. Well, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:39 How does that help their cause? I mean, who is going to say, oh, yeah, they threw rats. We got to be on Palestine's side. It is just a ridiculous thing. And it's disruptive to business. I mean, that's the point,, oh, yeah, they threw rats. We got to be on Palestine's side. It's just a delicious and destructive thing. And it's disruptive to business. I mean, that's the point, right? You release mice into a restaurant, they have to shut down for a couple hours. In a McDonald's?
Starting point is 01:21:51 Maybe not. I don't know. McDonald's, maybe. The thread that runs through a lot of the protests and stuff like that is just anti-Western, anti-capitalism. So the whole Palestinian thing, like the Palestinians are fighting the Israelis. The Israelis are generally looked at as a Western democracy. This is an attack on capitalism, they think, or they would probably consider an attack on capitalism, an attack on Western consumerism, an attack on actual Western things that are in the West. You know, so the the the fact that the left is kind of a monolith
Starting point is 01:22:26 now i think that that's part of why it's playing out like this and nothing will happen to them in london and they know that london is a disgrace the entire uk is a disgrace what they let people get away with that's why it's such a disaster but you can't all of the amount of raping they're literally they're literally arresting people people for silently praying outside of an abortion clinic. Several times. There's a lot of those videos. Multiple people get arrested for literally standing there and not saying anything. There's a social media post, too.
Starting point is 01:22:55 There are many people. I knew a woman over there went to jail just because she used to go and protest in Hyde Park. She used to not protest, but, you know, Speaker's Corner, which was supposed to be all about free speech. They arrested this woman I know two times because they didn't like her speech. Well, it's Speaker's Corner. That's the point of it. The whole of Europe has become woke. That's why they're being taken over.
Starting point is 01:23:15 That's why the whole place is being destroyed. And they want us to pay for their defense. Yeah, sure. We shouldn't be giving them a thing. We should be out of NATO. We should let them just do whatever they want. Out of NATO. Out of NATO. Get out. Get out.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Let them fend for themselves. You want to be woke? You want to be all into that crap? Get out. Go be invaded. This is going to be really interesting, though. That's basically what's happening is the American people are basically fed up with the failures of Europe and us footing the bill.
Starting point is 01:23:41 And we've been footing the bill since basically World War I. Yeah. And why? They're letting themselves become invaded. They are allowing even Italy, Spain, all these countries, they get people over from North Africa all day. They come in,
Starting point is 01:23:55 they have no respect for the culture of Europe, no respect for the history of Europe. They come in, they rape all the women like it's their job. They do all these awful, awful things to the communities. They take over entire towns. What are we supposed to do, bail them out? When it turns hot, when it gets into a real bad part?
Starting point is 01:24:12 Right, so the issue is the unchecked immigration and these videos of people landing on boats and rushing into the country. I don't think the issue is immigration. No, not immigration as a whole but these are people that nobody knows who they are somebody came with a goat yesterday on an ngo boat into italy it was a video or it could have been an emotional support goat it's an asylum seeker what are you it's an asylum seeker with his it's not an asylum partner or whatever you want to go goat is not seeking asylum no the goat well the goat might be because god knows what's happening
Starting point is 01:24:42 to him on that boat but goats are based and we like goats. And the issue is, this is where I want to be careful of not conflating. If there's a legitimate asylum case and the issue is... But how do we know? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're not asylees. They're not asylees. None of them.
Starting point is 01:24:57 No. They're not. These people are economic migrants as per the UN. Yes. So when people are like, I think it's important to draw the distinction specifically because it's the argument used by the left to justify
Starting point is 01:25:08 having no border security. So AOC specifically saying they're legal asylums. No, no, no. The people that we're upset about are quite literally the people who are criminals, not the immigrants
Starting point is 01:25:19 and the asylum seekers who are either legitimately coming here because they love this country or they want to seek opportunity and they're fine with the paperwork. The people that are the issue are the people who are breaking the laws legitimately coming here because they love this country or they want to seek opportunity and they're fine with the paperwork. The people that are the issue are the people who are breaking the laws,
Starting point is 01:25:28 coming here, and then continue cartel members, et cetera, et cetera. And then they're going and committing crimes. Right, right. And it's an insult to people who do it the right way. And the left is trying to make sure that when we talk about it,
Starting point is 01:25:41 it's one group. Yes. Instead of completely separate groups of people. If people really liked, as for Europe, the problem is they're not having kids. None. I don't know if this is true. People are saying that Italy hasn't recorded a birth in a few months.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I don't think that's true. What did they say? Italy hasn't recorded a birth period? In three months. Oh, please. I don't know if that's true. That's definitely not true. But when you look at the fertility rates, I talked about this last week, in the U.S. and Europe, they are collapsing. Right. And it's not just like, oh, look, they're down. No, they were down before.
Starting point is 01:26:15 It's worse now. Yeah. It's worse. But I will say the path towards winning the culture war is actually really simple at this point, too. It's just anybody who wants to win just needs to have five kids. Yeah, it's a long-term investment in the future. This is true.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Yeah. But I don't think that people, I mean, I think about this all the time, which is like we say you should have children, but that tide's going to turn really slowly. And I wish that there were more ways to get people engaged in making a difference right now. Well, it's easy to say have children,
Starting point is 01:26:44 but you can't get a house in this country right now the interest rates are eight but you who can afford a child i mean how many children do i see when i come to your food bank in your line that they can't be fit they can't afford five kids right now yeah but i mean if they want to have kids they should put some incentives in place look at hungary hungary did a great job you have four kids you don't pay income tax yeah yeah right right, right. Where's that policy? The child tax credit. I think Biden was talking about doing that.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Democrats were talking about doing it. I think that's a good thing. Yeah, it's a bipartisan issue because if our birth rate declines too far for too long, I mean, we did see an increase in the years after COVID very, very slightly, not enough to, you know, really say the tide has turned, but it should be a bipartisan cross-cultural.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Everyone needs to be having more children. And instead the narrative is, especially on the left, well, we can't have children. Everyone agrees it's too expensive, but they also argue the environment, the environment can't take this. You're overpopulating. There's too much pollution, this, that, and the other.
Starting point is 01:27:38 It's not true, but it'll be difficult to fight that narrative. And ultimately, as much as I would love it if just conservatives had millions of children to eat, ultimately, you need a lot of people, including the moderates who are on the fence, who might hear these arguments to have children. The problem is it's very, very much perception and standards. And people don't want to live beneath the modern standards.
Starting point is 01:28:00 And that's that. Look, I get it. I can respect it. But I don't know how you can look at people who came to this country on boats and landed on desolate shores with their kids. These people were like, imagine if the original pioneers who came to this country were like, no, I can't have a family because I can't afford medical care, a house, you know, insert, insert, insert. Yeah, no, 20% of the people died on the boats. And they came here anyway with nothing. And now I know, I know people are saying, yeah, insert, insert. Yeah, no, 20% of people died on the boats. And they came here anyway with nothing.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And now I know, I know people are saying, yeah, but like you can't even build a house. Back then you could like build a fortress or like you could build a little house somewhere in the middle of the woods at least. And people would work with you to build houses. And it's like, you could move out of cities and struggle and have a 20% chance of death
Starting point is 01:28:44 like the original pioneers and colonists. And then find a, look, if you move out of cities and struggle and have a 20 chance of death like the original pioneers and colonists and then find a look if you move out of the city and go somewhere where it's rural where the houses are really cheap and then you start doing the work the physical labor to build your house you have a 100 survival chance but are people built like that anymore that's the issue i don't think anybody so but but but saying saying that we're not built like that anymore? That's the issue. I don't think anybody's really built like that anymore. But saying that we're not built like that is not an excuse as to why the people who came before us were hardy and more tough, more resilient, and more willing to take the risks. Just saying, like, it's too hard today. I'll be like, it was harder back then. I don't believe.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Certainly, you can succeed. I don't believe that money is the real deciding factor, people's inability to afford to have kids. I don't think that that's the real deciding factor, like people's inability to afford to have kids. I don't think that that's the real deciding factor. I don't know that I have a strong opinion on what it is. I think it's probably cultural and has to do with people's upbringing and stuff. But there have been a lot of times where, or there's a long time of our history
Starting point is 01:29:44 where people had a significantly lower standard of living and they were punching out kids like it was their job. So it's not that, it's not that, you know, they have to have X amount of dollars to be able to afford kids. When you have kids, no matter how much money you make, unless you're like really independently wealthy, you probably always feel like if you had a little more, it would be easier, you know? And so really the thing is, if you want to have kids, you go and have kids. That's what people do. If people find it important to have kids,
Starting point is 01:30:13 they don't wait until they have certain amount of money. They want to have kids, they have kids. Yeah. America's declining birth rate parallels declining community participation. So it is generally a turning away from the building of any sort of social group, right? I mean, the family is not just a social group, but it is a core unit of your community. And you kind of make decisions from there. And I think especially people look to one another. And so even if we can never put a finger on exactly why people choose not to, the more people who choose not to, more likely the people around them also opt not to have children.
Starting point is 01:30:46 There's a lot of propaganda. Look at that, what's that beast's name? Helen Handler, Chelsea Handler. Always posting those TikToks. I didn't have any kids. I flew to France this week. I'm so happy. No, she is happy. Good for her. I'm sure she is.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I was looking at 3,000 square feet of land in a city in Martinsburg for $19,000. Wow. Not a lot of people have, a lot of people probably don't have $19,000. You can get a loan for it if you want to pay for it. But you can get an acre of land for half that if you go out to the middle of nowhere. Now here's the question. If you went and bought an acre out you know two hours
Starting point is 01:31:25 west of dc in the middle of a field somewhere bought the land built a a makeshift little hut for your family your family was filthy covered in dirt bathing in the swimming hole and you were eaten and hunting for food and then you were slowly cutting down cutting down trees and having your kids help you build your house which was very small would anyone consider that to be a reasonable standard of living for people in this country? CPS would be there instantaneously. The answer is no. No, I don't think CPS would be there instantaneously, not at all, because there's tons of families that are completely neglected and ignored,
Starting point is 01:31:56 and these children are left to suffer. I'm talking about parents who are actually taking care of their kids the old-fashioned way. They'd probably be completely ignored. But nobody wants to do that. The idea that you would be living in the wilderness basically with no resource no electricity living off the land is unthinkable and unheard of and that is the difference between then and now back then granted you didn't really buy the land you just went and set up somewhere where no one had a claim right nowadays you have to actually buy it so you you'll need some money, meaning you got to have some savings, but nobody's going to do it.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Nobody thinks it's reasonable to buy an acre of land and then start building a house, taking care of their family. Or even more reasonably, you could buy probably five acres for $10,000 somewhere far out in the middle of nowhere. But are there jobs out there? What do you need a job? I'm talking about eating deer and eating wild fruit and learning which leaves you can eat. So, our ancestors quite literally did this knowing like, hey, winter might come, we might
Starting point is 01:32:51 die. But they're like, we're going to hunt, and they had basic skills. But people today don't have this. And so, again, I think it is unreasonable to expect anyone to do this, but this creates the predicament. When we say we can't afford a house, we're saying we can't afford insulation, conditioning clean running water all of these things are part of the standard that we have to maintain and we expect to maintain for our families but no one's going
Starting point is 01:33:15 to have no one wants to have kids unless they can maintain what is effectively living like a space king by medieval standards the idea that your house is insulated or that you have running water is like, the kings didn't even have this. Granted, Roman Empire had indoor plumbing. My point is, as the, we've talked about how technology becomes necessity. Luxury becomes necessity. When cell phones come out, only rich people,
Starting point is 01:33:38 the wealthiest people have them. And you don't need to have a cell phone, but if you do, wow. Now cell phones are, you have to have it. You can't get a job without it. And these things cost money. So now all of these luxuries have become necessities and no one can afford to do it. And nobody wants to go and live back off the dirt like we used to back in the day.
Starting point is 01:33:55 No, I think it would be impossible for people to ever. I mean, the people I know who do really live off the grid, very few of them have a lot of children. And I think that there are a lot of reasons for that right it it is the reason we have ipad kids is because modern conveniences are built into a lot of parenting nowadays and it's not that it's bad or good although it's not great and usually both parents are out of the household now the mother's not there with the kids anymore right and to maintain a modern standard of living, you would need both incomes in most families. You do.
Starting point is 01:34:25 You need it. I mean, people are not getting by well. And another part of this is the no-fault divorces that ruin the men. They have to be careful. And then the child support comes in, and then you get ruined, and everything you built, you get screwed. So the society's not set up to incentivize it. There is not a lot of incentive for people to get married anymore
Starting point is 01:34:48 in the United States. There's very, very little incentive. If you have... It's the other way around. There's a tremendous disincentive. Yeah, fair enough. Which is funny because statistically, it bears out that children
Starting point is 01:35:02 who are born to married families do better, right? There's all sorts of benefits. Keeping the family intact. There's no cultural incentive, but actually if you look at it, marriage is hugely beneficial. And so we have to remind people why we had marriage in the first place, that there was a good thing. Marriage is beneficial to individuals, to families, to people, but all of the outside incentives disincentivize marriage all of the things that that our society does the media disincentivizes it all of the i mean social media yeah absolutely so and and until we can remedy that i think that we're going to continue to have you know
Starting point is 01:35:39 instability in in family creation and in culture i again, family is at the core of all society. So if the family isn't stable, why would the society be stable? That doesn't make sense. Yeah, that's very true. I think at a certain point, you know, someone super chatted talking about Japan, for instance, population is going to dramatically decline. It's going to have very interesting effects on global power structures. And then there will be a pendulum swinging the other direction i think you said as well if you look
Starting point is 01:36:08 at japan they currently have all the younger people in the like in our generation pardon me are all essentially making all their money from taking care of the elderly like it's like the whole industry in japan and it's not sustainable for a long term yeah they're not having kids too busy with their jobs etc etc it's a whole cultural problem feminism when yeah when uh when we eliminated the female traditional role yeah and had women uh take on the male traditional role right this is what ends up happening it's very true this is the end result what are we like 50 years into feminism a little more what do you say we're it's not it's not feminism it's the control pill. I think it's one of the same. That's a component of it.
Starting point is 01:36:48 You can have feminism and have the ideas all you want, but if you don't have the birth control pill and people just do not have the capacity to behave the way that they do now, the free sex, the free love stuff, that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen. Big time. Maybe, but I think that you wouldn't get to the point the free sex the free love stuff that doesn't happen that doesn't happen no well big time maybe maybe but i think i think that you wouldn't get to the point where abortion happens regularly if you didn't have the pill the pill allows women to go to work regularly the pill allows it a lot
Starting point is 01:37:19 of women it stabilizes women go to work if they were on the if they weren't on the pill they'll end up getting pregnant well it just it just allows people to act like feral animals. Exactly. No, no, no. The pill had a huge... I agree, and so does abortion, but there are a lot of women who don't take birth control pills who go to work. It is a social norm that women must work.
Starting point is 01:37:38 That's it. Women must get jobs and must take care of themselves. But that is an effect of the pill that is not caught that is not a cause but i i don't i don't i don't think so i don't think you can say that they're related in that way they're they're they're two things that are a component of a similar thing but they're independent of each other yeah i also think that they're during the birth control movement you know there were already women who were working who thought well now that i'm liberated i have own money. I want to be able to behave different sexually. I mean, I want a different life. I think in some ways,
Starting point is 01:38:09 women entering the workforce encourage them to get on birth control, but I don't think it's the other way around. There are all kinds of reasons that women wanted or thought that the women's movement was attractive. And ultimately, like I said, with AI, they pay a price that they don't know what it will be. And the birth control pill is incredibly dangerous. It's over-prescribed in my opinion. It does, I think you're right. It does allow women to stay in the workforce for longer, but I think they were already looking for ways out.
Starting point is 01:38:35 I think there were arguments against separating the family before the birth control pill came on the market. It was the first step that allowed women to behave as men. I don't think that's true. I think that women already were, there were women's movements to give them, I mean, this was a whole argument with suffrage, right? Men can vote, so we should be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:38:51 That has nothing to do with the birth control pill. This has been going on for a long time. Is it good? And I think probably birth control expedited it. I'm no fan of birth control pill, but I don't think that it was the birth control pill that opened the door for feminism. It was already there.
Starting point is 01:39:02 It was just a ticking time bomb. I think in some ways, feminism allowed people to be more accepting of the birth control pill to open the door for feminism. It was already there. It was just a ticking time bomb. I think in some ways, feminism allowed people to be more accepting of the birth control pill because they saw it as this progressive choice for women. I agree with Anna Claire on that. I looked it up. The birth control was invented in 1950. It was when it was first introduced. But women's suffrage movement and women entering the workplace was happening in the early 1900s. These arguments for changing in the in the in the roles happen with industrialization and probably population expansion and the security state when women became secure they no longer they they no longer need men in the same way that men need women so you know if you go back to well before industrialization, women are more vulnerable than men.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Men protect women. But once we eliminated the bears, the wolves, the coyotes, and the external threats and had centralized police forces, now it's like the state can function as the man for the woman in general, and the women can go do whatever they want, but now they need money to do whatever they want. Right. Which probably leads to the creation of birth control. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.
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Starting point is 01:42:32 Dababo3 says, Alec Baldwin coming to Steel City Con outside Pittsburgh in December. Facebook comments roasting him. Hopefully he doesn't shoot anybody. He'll have to be on his best behavior. Coldy Lock's production says, couldn't believe the amount of lying
Starting point is 01:42:46 Cenk did in Friday's culture war. Also, I'd be totally down to have Dennis Prager debate Scott and correct him on his history on Israel. We can look into that. That'd be great. Culture war episode. Will Chamberlain says that he would debate Scott.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Scott Howard, yeah. Yeah, okay. All right. I think everybody wants Dennis Prager because it's like, it's dennis prager you know what i mean you know but that would be really interesting and and and will uh will's very mild-mannered yeah it would i do not think it could possibly get heated no scott would get excited and then will would just be like well you know the thing is very calm yeah all right what do we got raymond g stanley jr says sean strickland out here playing 4d chess oh man yeah dude we're gonna talk about this in the
Starting point is 01:43:32 members only show so we can get a little spicy with it but sean strickland came out with probably the smartest thing as as it pertains to the bud light ufc sponsorship i don't even think of and he hit it out of the park. Yeah. We're going to talk about it. He's basically saying that Bud Light is now paying him to say everything he's going to say and everyone else. And you know what? He makes a good point.
Starting point is 01:43:53 Maybe this does save Bud Light. Because wait until you see what he has to say. He's talking about a lot of culture war issues and being very strong about it. He said some things I don't think anybody in this room would want to say. But the point is he's pulling as hard as he can
Starting point is 01:44:10 in the other direction and forcing Bud Light to pay for it. JTS says, get Sean Strickland as a guest. I knew as soon as I saw the UFC story that he would have something to say. The guy is really funny, really based, and is actually a good example of what a champion is. That would be epic. I mean, when i first
Starting point is 01:44:25 i will say we'll save it because i don't want we we got to talk about his statement we're talking about it's not family friend well it's probably family friendly but we're going to save it for the members only we're going to we'll get spicy with it all right brandon says check out protests in panama over chinese-backed canadian oil company given large land and land stealing rights huge fear the protests could disrupt the canal and that china is aiming to take it over they are china tried building the nicaraguan canal this is like 10 years ago and they would they would have had to have destroyed a massive natural aquifer to do it and so it was ultimately abandoned but uh controlling the pan Panama Canal is big bucks power.
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Starting point is 01:46:27 james moaning says first stand your grounds coffee is delicious well done second what do you uh what do you want the normal people to do you have the doj and judges against non-dems you have establishment against us and you have us worried about effing cowboy boots repeat effing cowboy boots hey we're gonna have a little bit of levity on the show just because we talk about ron de santa's wearing high heels doesn't mean we're not saying don't get serious but uh what you do is actually it is relatively simple the first thing you do you listen to a show like this the second thing you do is you give money to people who are doing tremendous things and i'm just saying give us money i'm saying anyone you support think you're doing a good job scott Pressler, however, and by whatever means you can support his work, fund the people who are doing the work
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Starting point is 01:48:12 All right. Nick Lee says, in regard to Republican chances, I'm an independent living in PA and every other ad I see is Democratic campaign ad for positions down the ballot, not one from Republicans.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Yup. I will say, however, I went to Pittsburgh and i have never been recognized in any other city more than i was in pittsburgh and it was kind of weird we went to a hotel and the hotel all three of the hotel valets recognized me we went to rivers casino to hang out and i got recognized by the by the woman running the poker uh room and several of the players in the poker room walking down the street someone note
Starting point is 01:48:45 like waved i was just like wow it's kind of crazy like i go to a bunch of other cities and you know here here and there but in pittsburgh it was like everybody knew i was and i wonder if it's because of like midwest sensibilities for rust belt you know i'm from chicago but i did notice this is really funny at uh we were at the pittsburgh was pittsburgh university or whatever it's called university of pittsburgh i think there you go and on this green transformer box i took a picture of We were at the Pittsburgh, was it Pittsburgh University or whatever it's called? University of Pittsburgh, I think. There you go. And on this green transformer box, I took a picture of it.
Starting point is 01:49:08 It was like Brandon Tatum and James O'Keefe are coming in. They're fascists or whatever, blah, blah, blah. Don't let them come. And the argument against them was just like the stupidest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:49:18 It was like, James O'Keefe makes things up. And I'm like, why would a college student care that a guy makes things up on the internet? It's like, oh, we have to protest
Starting point is 01:49:24 because we think a guy made something up on the internet. Who cares? It's too non-specific. Is he making up the videos? Is he hiring? Really? Well, that's their argument. But the point is, if you don't know who James O'Keefe is, what about would you like to protest
Starting point is 01:49:38 a guy who made something up on the internet is appealing to you? You'd be like, what? They have no lives. They have nothing better to do. Everybody makes things up on the internet. I was going to say, that's half of their dream career is to be like what they have no lives they have nothing better to do everybody makes things up on the internet i was gonna say that's half of their dream careers to be like youtubers who make stuff up and get involved in all kinds of drama i'd imagine i've heard pittsburgh's an amazing city i've been secretly lobbying for a show there for a little while so i've never been though so all right de bronx says the 14th amendment also details the oath support the
Starting point is 01:50:03 constitution that is not the presidential oath. Yeah, but it is. Come on. It says, what does that deserve? Protect and defend the Constitution. So now I'm just getting semantics. But let's presidential oath of office. The ability to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Starting point is 01:50:23 So if that's not support for the constitution i don't know what is you know but uh there's an argument there the president is not included in that and i think that actually makes sense the argument i would make is that in 1876 they did have southerners uh southern states run democrats were running for office they were holding office and so the idea was they were basically saying okay okay like nothing no one who who did at that point but these positions are probably fine if they did not allow the one of one of these states to have a president these people were all alive and involved in the civil war then it would have just led to more civil war that was the point of 1876 so i think that might be why
Starting point is 01:51:06 they say yes to the presidency but i don't know for sure i don't know all right raybert g stanbert jr says pbd was my favorite podcast before my brother showed me this one now y'all are tied in my heart was so awesome seeing y'all start to collab we're big fans he's fantastic he stole the show when he came to miami well he he's from Miami where he lives there. But when he gave a speech about tolerant Christians and like what you have to do, like you got to stand. Everyone just stood up, started clapping and cheering. And I was like, OK, like, what do we say now?
Starting point is 01:51:33 He nailed it. But that's the point. That's why I say share the show. Word of mouth is the most powerful way podcasts grow. That's it. People are always wondering, like, how do I get a big podcast? And it's like word of mouth. Someone plays a podcast in their car while their friend listens to it. They like it and they share it. People are always wondering, like, how do I get a big podcast? And it's like, word of mouth. Someone plays a podcast in their car while their friend listens to it.
Starting point is 01:51:47 They like it and they share it. Someone else says, hey, you should check out this podcast. It's really good. That's it. Commercials don't do anything. None of that. All word of mouth. That's why Twitter slash X is so prominent, so powerful.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Maybe we should actually try to promote our shows on that. Yeah, maybe, maybe. Or, you know know if everybody who watched the show shared with their friends would be the biggest show in the world yeah easily there you go but i will also add too that it's fairly obvious that a large uh the large portion of our viewers are fairly moderate leaning individuals and most of you probably agree like we had one individual individual saying they were independent that tends to be what we find as well and that's also going to be interesting too we're getting we're getting some more interest i think it's interesting that jank uger wanted to come on the culture war
Starting point is 01:52:31 we've got some uh other democrat personalities not reaching out to us and i think it's because they're they know that this show is not a hardcore diehard far-right manga you know super conservative show it's like kind of moderate with crazy characters like ian and the the actually the example of pittsburgh is interesting because pittsburgh is what everybody wants to win right the democrat strongholds sure but if you get places like pittsburgh if you get more rural suburban areas midwestern i mean pa especially just across the board michigan ohio wisconsin this is what all of the politicians are desperately trying to win midwest yeah so if people in pittsburgh know who i am and they're watching the show at higher rates than other places we're gonna have every democrat in the world begging to
Starting point is 01:53:18 come on and try and pitch their case and they're gonna get roasted it also means that the power centers are shifting right instead of left, which is good. I mean, that was Matt Gaetz's feedback after the second time he came on because the first time he came out here and then he heckled us when he came to Congress and was like,
Starting point is 01:53:32 oh, you'll come out to Lauren Boebert's office but I have to drive. But he said, I was amazed by how many just regular people, waitresses, truck drivers, random people I met
Starting point is 01:53:40 were like, I heard you on TimCast. I don't think people realize that's one of the strengths of the show that real people listen to it boomers boomers well there's a lot of young people no no i'm saying boomers don't realize oh right right right tinky winky 31 says don't know how much hockey you yanks watch but in the 24 years i've played that's one of the most bizarre plays i've seen the way in which the back checker reacts makes it hard to give him the benefit of the doubt check out the clint uh mallorchuk injury we did we watched it before the show and i used to play i used to play street hockey when i was a kid with my friends like that was our sport we played
Starting point is 01:54:13 basketball or baseball we played street hockey we played kind of a lot no one ever got kicked with a rollerblade no in the face yeah it's just like and then all my friends who we've rollerblade now and we have rollerblades and i was rollerblading last year it's just like and then all my friends who even rollerblade now and we have rollerblades and I was rollerblading last year it's just like foot never goes up like that
Starting point is 01:54:30 why would it throw your balance all the way off right he's trying to kick them I mean skates are heavy I mean like you have to want them
Starting point is 01:54:37 to go up the otherwise they naturally come out unless you're a figure skater but he's definitely not he's playing hockey no and if he's
Starting point is 01:54:43 the way he's directing he's turning his skates he'd be leaning in towards the left and his left leg is one that's going up so it's just like yeah let's grab some more super chats johnny ft says the only solution to the a problem is is a return to analog pictures and video will need to be accompanied by the original celluloid well sure yeah i don't know man it's it's hard to say welcome to the matrix you're gonna live in the matrix that's it thanks i hate it here lars says just a heads up the u.s is halting exports of small arms for 90 days as per the epic times yeah that was from uh that story was from last week so i'll be all ready for war? It'll be fun, I guess.
Starting point is 01:55:25 I mean, all the listeners to TimCast, unless you're a new listener, you probably already have guns if you were going to get guns. We've been talking about this stuff for ages and ages. So, if you're a new listener, I'm sorry to... Go get more. Exercise your Second Amendment rights today
Starting point is 01:55:42 by contacting your local FFL. And that's the advice I'll give everybody. When I first moved to New Jersey, I was trying to figure out how to get a gun. exercise your second amendment rights today by contacting your local ffl and uh you know that was that was that's the advice i'll give everybody when i first moved to new jersey i was trying to figure out how to get a gun and uh good luck in new jersey yeah so i went to the police and the police lied every single time the police station lied everyone i went to told me something different they said it's remarkable because i'm pretty sure they're intentionally lying to people though they were like oh yeah you just got to fill. They said, it's remarkable because I'm pretty sure they're intentionally lying to people. They were like, oh yeah, you just got to fill out this
Starting point is 01:56:07 form. They had this form. We're like, okay, then go online and go to this website and put it in. And I'm like, okay, and then the website doesn't exist. And I was like, what is going on? So finally, I did the simple thing and I went to a gun store. And I said, what do I got to do? And they slid me a totally different form and said, fill that one out and then bring it to the
Starting point is 01:56:23 police station. And I was like, okay. And then, oh no, no, no. I brought it to a specific station where they take a totally different form and said, fill that one out. And then bring it to the police station. And I was like, okay. And then, oh, no, no, no. I brought it to a specific station where they took a picture of me and then handed me the New Jersey firearms ID card. And then I was able to go buy a gun in New Jersey. So if you need advice on what you want to do, what you need to do, talk to your local federally licensed firearm dealer. Go to a gun shop. They'll set you straight. Yeah, gun nuts will.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Yeah. When I moved to Maryland, I called a local shop, and I asked them about it, and they were like, here are the rules. Here's what you got to do. And I'm like, cool. Then I called West Virginia, and they were like, come on in. And I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:59 And they were like, constitutional carry. You got a West Virginia ID. You're all good. You got to do the federal background check. And there you go when i first when i bought my first gun at in new jersey it took uh three days wow i think it took five because of the weekend but like there's a three-day period where if the feds don't respond then so they were just like okay you bought it we'll let you know what they say because you're on you're delayed and i'm like okay this is dumb yeah it doesn't exist here too it's federal federal so it's everywhere but basically
Starting point is 01:57:30 yep basically once yeah because it's like if you need it you need it imagine you're a woman you're getting like a man is coming after you you need the gun because you're going to get beat the crap out of you left the house or something or killed you got to shoot that man i mean come on and then you got to wait three days you're dead already you have to use reasonable force to defend yourself if someone is expressing their intent to kill you of course right so for me dealing with a guy trying to break into my house right who was a pedophile and dealing with death threats the police are like good luck and they actually told me oh yeah of course in new jersey they said that uh if someone breaks
Starting point is 01:58:06 into your house you have to flee and i'm like to flee that's new jersey's law in the united states of america and i said where where to we'll flee to where i'm in my house and they're like anywhere and the argument it's the communist started it's quite literally out of the out of out of the communist playbook you should flee instead of having to take someone's life because the argument is yeah okay you would rather kill someone than stand outside and it's like well I don't know what's going to happen if I go outside I don't know if they've got someone waiting outside for me and so what am I supposed to do
Starting point is 01:58:32 and they're like if you can get out you have to get out Maryland is relatively similar in oh they'll arrest you and charge you the felony and then tell you to prove it in Maryland you can't defend yourself outside your home if someone is threatening you outside your home you have to flee into your home and can't defend yourself outside your home if someone is threatening you outside your home you have to flee into your home and then once you're in your home
Starting point is 01:58:48 they try breaking in then you can defend yourself and then west virginia is if someone threatens you you can defend yourself good it's a simpler law it's much easier to remember yeah that's how it should be all that remains manager is uh he lives in long island he's a jewish guy and so obviously he's got family in in uh in israel and stuff and and he started buying guns maybe a couple years ago or whatever and now he's like thank god that i did because the rigmarole and all of the the the paperwork that you have to do in new york you know it's crazy it's basically insane you know yeah so and make it impossible you know you never know when you're going to need it.
Starting point is 01:59:25 So, and it's better to have it and not need it. And Florida is staying your ground so we have the right to protect ourselves there. Yeah. Yeah. Johnny F. Teases,
Starting point is 01:59:33 as a doctor, you can occlude one artery but still have enough blood flow to the brain from the other side. Right. Man, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Pretty sure that malnutrition case, he literally just reached into his neck and closed the artery. Into. Yeah. Stuck his finger in the neck. Yeah. Stick a thumb into it. Yeah. That's crazy. Pretty sure that malnutrition case, he literally just reached into his neck and closed the artery. Into? Yeah. Stuck his finger in the neck? Stick a thumb into it.
Starting point is 01:59:48 He was there the whole time and in the hospital too. If you ever get gunshot wounds, what they tell you to do is put the tourniquet on first and then just stuff gauze into the hole until the hole's hard. I watched a video of a guy
Starting point is 02:00:01 explaining how to treat a gunshot wound and he's sticking his thumbs into it just gauze until and he says it becomes hard as a rock yeah and then you put a bandage over it and then get him to the hospital that's what that's what i mean a blowout kit like a trauma kit like that it's it all it is is gauze a uh a bandage to cover it up in a tourniquet so and that's your that's the only thing you need to fix most of your gunshot wounds unless you have something through the lung where you need a chest seal. I think everybody should go to one of these basic survival training things where Luke does the tactical training stuff.
Starting point is 02:00:36 I'm saying like I did this hostile environment training, which is really hard to get access to because everybody wants to do it and they've limited classes. So it's typically only big corporations and insurance companies schedule these things but anything like this i recommend why it's so much fun it's not like you're there and they're like listen someone's gonna no it's fun you're hanging out in the woods and you're basically role playing like so when i did the hostile environment training they would uh put you through the scenario and then have you actually be actors in the scenario for the next
Starting point is 02:01:09 group of people so it was just a ton of fun you go out and it was like you get to be a villager harassing a journalist you get to be you know a police officer whatever it was good fun i recommend it and then uh you guys will learn basic first aid and your kids should learn these things too. And then one day you'll slip and fall and your kid will save your life. Yeah, it's important. I have a woofer because I was RAF guide for some years
Starting point is 02:01:31 and I'm surprised at how little people know about basic first aid. It's kind of shocking. On my Twitter account, on my Twix account, I just retweeted a basic primer of how to treat gunshot wounds. So take a look on my Twitter account.
Starting point is 02:01:44 It's crazy. I watched a video about removing arrows and they would use feathers. Because the arrows would have the hook on the end and they would put the feather over the barb and then both and then you pull it right out. It's kind of crazy like these things. If you knew.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Well like you said before, if you took one class and it ever became useful, it's paid for itself tenfold for sure yeah you have your life tyrian says carotid artery exsanguination happens in 5 to 15 seconds wow yep crazy that's basically you know a better future says tim you are right a little first aid knowledge can save lives maybe when luke comes back give him five minutes per show for first aid psas that's a lot to do a lot i think maybe we do like one special upload to the website where we talk about first aid or something yeah or honestly we just direct you to somebody who's doing that like luke would put it on his channel or something like that i
Starting point is 02:02:39 bet there are viewers who already watch stuff i guess like between survivalist accounts and just paramedics who have youtube channels i'm sure there's man it's it's it's crazy okay like one single sentence could be the mean the difference between someone living or dying or someone being paralyzed and not paralyzed like i watched a video it was out of africa a dude jumps in front of a car and what do they do after he gets run over they pick him up and start dragging him away and i'm like okay that's they're breaking his bones and they're they're cutting nerves and they're doing all that bad stuff when i had uh when i broke my hand i didn't move it i just held it and the doctor said that the way it broke it was really close to severing a nerve and probably making a portion of my hand permanently numb or paralyzed yeah and like you got to know these things
Starting point is 02:03:26 granted i didn't do anything i'm just saying my hand broke and then i was like ah it hurts and then with the doctor and he was like okay we have to set this properly because you're really close to severing a nerve and it was like kind of crazy let's grab some more super chats federali actual says i still can't listen to hcb since I measured and was at 70 inches flat. I was never 5'11". See, I'm telling you guys, the 5'11 is the default. I don't want to lie and say I'm 6' but I'm also not as tall as I actually want
Starting point is 02:03:53 to present. And that's okay. There's room in life for all kinds of heights out there. Yeah, I keep saying I'm 6'1". Exactly. Whenever I say I'm 6'1", everyone's like, oh, you're like 5'11". I literally am. You're like, pull out your tape measure. I'm actually 6'1". I'm still doing that. I'm 6 one everyone's like oh you're like 5 11 or whatever i literally am you're like pull out your tape measure i'm actually six one i'm still doing that why not i'm six seven you're i believe you it's true well you and baron trump are the same height you guys make eye contact a little taller than him um but i'm six seven because i told everyone here that
Starting point is 02:04:16 uh i am and because i'm the boss they have to agree that's all that matters it's part of our contract also his lips are crazy you guys should see them. There was a good Super Chit that I want to read before we get too late. And let's see. Where did it go? Where'd it go? That's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:04:33 I don't know. Oh, here we go. Como Shepard says, DeSantis could fix a bunch of his image issues if he had said, I identify as 6'2". Yup.
Starting point is 02:04:42 That would have been great. That would have been great answer. If he was asked, how tall are you? By Patrick Bet-David. And he goes, well, identify as 6'2". Yup. That would have been great. That would have been great answer. If he was asked, how tall are you by Patrick, by David, and he goes, well,
Starting point is 02:04:48 identify as 6'2", they would have all laughed and he would have laughed, but he does not have it. No, he doesn't. He takes himself way too seriously. I mean,
Starting point is 02:04:58 maybe not, but he just doesn't know how. Yeah, I don't know. You ever meet somebody who tries to joke and the jokes just don't work and you're like, you're just being uncomfortable like you don't have it you know ron should have been the vp trump de santa's ticket would have been amazing would have been amazing
Starting point is 02:05:16 and then he said uh no all right we'll grab uh one last one here we got winston alexander says took me four months to get my new jersey ccw multiple background checks high fees and four endorsements from non-family non-leos also police chief interviews and that's and that's only after the supreme court ruling right because when i was there they were like nope they said uh in order to get a ccw in new jersey you got to be rich or famous are you either of those and i said actually i, actually, I'm both. They're like, okay, you're good. And I was like, wow. And then it was still really difficult, but that was basically the argument. Same thing with Maryland. These states were like,
Starting point is 02:05:51 if you're rich and famous, you're allowed to have a gun, but nobody else. And I'm like, okay, well, that's BS. But we're going to jump over to the members-only show and talk about Sean Strickland, UFC, and Bud Light's partnership and the things Sean said. Getting spicy, so smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel.
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Starting point is 02:07:01 You can ask your Alexa to play it if you have one. It's a terrible idea. You can ask your Alexa to play it. You should ask your Alexa to play it if you have one which is a terrible idea you can ask your alexa to play you should ask your alexa to play it alexa play all that remains chris burman's gonna be so mad last time we did this okay what's what's your favorite song um new stuff there's well yeah i mean that's i can't wait to show you guys uh i think that if you're into metal and you want to check some all that Remains out, you should go check out Two Weeks. Check out What If I Was Nothing. Check out This Calling. Those are our-
Starting point is 02:07:29 Those are big hits. Those are the big ones. Yeah. I mean, Two Weeks is a masterpiece. Thank you. I appreciate that. Alexa, play Two Weeks. Now it's playing some other like-
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