Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #894 Yemeni Rebels Declare WAR On Israel As War Expands, Ukraine Ends w/Michael Rectenwald

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

Tim, Phil Labonte, Brett (PCC), & Serge join Dr. Michael Rectenwald to discuss Yemen's Houthi Militia declaring war on Israel, the IDF admitting to bombing a refugee camp in Gaza, Chinese companies beginning to remove Israel from world maps, & BootGate ramping up! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I saw this tweet earlier. People were saying that Yemen basically declared war on Israel. Well, it's the Houthi militia that has claiming they've launched attacks on Israel. They're Iranian backed. And so there is concern that the war is beginning to escalate. However, calm down there, my friends, because it seems like the Ukraine war is over. And so while all war is bad, it is like it's kind of good news that Zelensky is losing. Time magazine has published their front page story.

Zelensky is desperate to win, but his advisors are saying they've lost the war. Russia is winning. They're losing the war, I should say, to be clear. And there's little interest in the U.S. to continue funding what is already lost. As we've said this some time ago, it looks like Russia's won this one. In the meantime, however, it looks like things are escalating over Israel. We've got other breaking news that Israel has now taken, as admitted to bombing a refugee camp, killing at least 50 civilians. And apparently they want to see it.

And they said they did it. So things are getting absolutely horrifying right now. And as this escalates, there's concern with other nations saying that if Israel keeps up these bombing campaigns, which kill civilians, then it's going to escalate further. Hopefully, as we see Ukraine wind down, the things that are escalating in the Middle East do not become a World War III scenario or go beyond the region. We're all hoping for that. We'll talk about that.

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times yemen's houthi militia claims to have launched an uh launched an attack on israel the israeli military said it had thwarted a batch of aerial threats, but did not say who was behind them. Yemen's Houthi militia claimed an attempted attack on southern Israel on Tuesday, saying it had launched a large batch of ballistic and cruise missiles, as well as drones toward Israeli targets. The Iran-backed militia carried out the attempted assault in response to what it called brutal Israeli-American aggression in Gaza. The military spokesman Yaya Saraya said on the social media platform X, Mr. Saraya said the attack was the third operation conducted by the Houthis in support of our persecuted brothers in Palestine and threatened further missile and drone assaults.

The Times could not independently verify the claims. On Tuesday, the Israeli military said its aerial defense system had intercepted a surface to surface missile fired towards Israel from the area of the Red Sea. It said it has also intercepted other aerial threats in the area, none of which entered Israeli territory. Now, here's here's the big concern, I suppose. at this through the lens of the Ben Shapiro perspective. His view is that if the U.S. does not get involved and stamp out aggression toward or assist in the stamping out of aggression towards Israel, we are going to see an escalation of these kinds of assaults, which results in Israel taking the nuclear option, perhaps quite literally resulting in a World War Three scenario when basically the idea is there's two ideas.

One, in response to a serious military threat that could end Israel, Israel says, fire everything we've got. The second scenario, similar, is Israel facing its demise says, we're going to fire everything everywhere and we're going to force the intervention of other countries to stop this conflict. Yeah, I mean, it's the exact inverse of what Shapiro is saying. The more we do, the more we intervene, the greater the threat of this turning into a wider conflict. More countries that will get drawn in.

You know, you have, of course, everything points back to Iran here, supposedly, with Hezbollah and now the Houthis. And so we're looking at the possibility of drawing other actors into this. And the United States is seemingly itching to attack Iran. And that's a problem. So, you know, the arming and funding of Israel is outrageous. This is drawing all these actors out. So we're actually, our interventions are causing this conflict to escalate so the the i guess my question is if the u.s does nothing

do you think these other countries these are iranian-backed militias in iran do you think they just ignore israel or do you think they attack israel i mean if the u.s does nothing but fund them to the tune of 3.8 billion dollars a year and another $14 billion, then of course there's going to be our involvement. We're already implicated in the whole conflict because of the arms and funding we've been giving them over all this time. So yeah, we need to retrench. We need to pull back all of our funding. And yeah, we would see that if we didn't intervene in all these conflicts, there would be less conflict in the world, and especially the Middle East. Do you see that if we didn't intervene in all these conflicts, there would be less conflict in the world and especially the Middle East. Do you think that if the United States were not giving funding, giving weapons and essentially, essentially, it's probably just giving weapons that the U.S. pays weapons manufacturers for.

But if the U.S. were not and the Israelis were just buying weapons from U.S. manufacturers. Do you think that the Houthis in Iran would look at it any differently? Because in my opinion, I don't think that the people, the countries and states that don't like Israel would see a distinction. Even if we weren't giving it away, if we were like, look, U.S. firms are allowed to sell you, like Raytheon and Boeing can sell you weapons, but we're not paying for it. I don't really strongly believe that the Iranians are going to consider that a – they'll call it a difference without a distinction. Well, I don't know. We're giving them the money, and then they buy the arms. That's how it works, $3.8 billion a year. So I think that, you know, if, I don't think, first of all, Israel would

be able to afford as much arms if it weren't for these outlandish grants every year. And then add 14 billion on top of it, and you've got the United States totally implicated. So, I mean, I don't see how that helps anything at all. And so, yeah, if they were just buying their arms and largely from the United States, perhaps those countries would still consider the U.S. implicated. But there's no doubt that we're fully involved in this because of that. And right now, U.S. rockets and bombs are falling on children in Palestine. This is an outrage.

This should be something that we completely oppose. We have no business doing this, and I think it's blood on our hands, frankly. I agree. The U.S. shouldn't fund it, but I just am not convinced that other countries would see a distinction. Let's try it for once.

I would love it. We haven't tried this ever. Why don't we give it a try? 100%. I'm not trying to push back against the ever. So why don't we give it a try? 100%. 100%. I'm not trying to push back against the idea. Actually, I think we tried it during the Barbary Wars. The U.S. was kind of like, hey, can we not go to war with you guys? Like, what's going on?

And then they were like, nah, we're going to keep stealing. There was no Israel back then, but yeah. No, but my point is like, it was only the founding fathers who were like, the United States will not be involved in these foreign conflicts. And then you get to, you know, late 1800s, early 1900s. And the politicians then are like, I think the U.S. should be involved in foreign affairs and just start setting up military conquest. Why not? And there you have it. And now we have 800 bases around the world.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what in Israel, by the way? Apparently, there's a secret base in Israel right now. It's called 152. It's this very nondescript name, and we're actually, we have forces located in there. They're saying it's just living accommodations, but it has U.S. forces in it. This has been revealed. Site 512?

Yes, that's it. Yeah. So this is uh this is the intercept right u.s quietly expands secret military base in israel government documents point to construction at a classified u.s base offer rare hints about little noted u.s military presence near gaza and there was there was some reporting hard to know what's true claiming that u.s forces were actually in gaza during the invasion and may be there now. And perhaps it's very hard to tell. I mean, all this is kept secret.

These 2000 troops that were sent over there, they're sent to an undisclosed location. We don't know where they are. The Defense Department will not say where they are. So, I mean, for for certain military reasons, that makes sense. But we still don't know. They may be in Israel. I'm not familiar with the troop deployment. I know that there's two Marine Expeditionary Units that are with the carrier groups, but I don't know about...

Yeah, there's 2,000 troops that have been sent over. 2,000, you know, I don't know if they're infantry or Marines or whatever they are. They're there and in the region, but they won't tell us where they are in the region. I bet they're in Iraq. And then, of course, we have two aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean, and we have tons of arms just loaded around. So I think they're trying to bait the U.S. into a conflict.

If something gets struck, we're going to go in. Oh, yeah. Well, now with the u.s hostages you have the argument that oh the reason we have delta forces on the ground yeah is because of the hostages the the presence of 2500 u.s troops in iraq and another 900 in eastern syria both on missions against the islamic state this is uh i'm not looking trump tried bringing them back yeah but don't you think that um or what are your thoughts on this? I mean, a lot of people say that if the U.S. is not, if the U.S. just retracts everything, China just sweeps in.

I don't agree. I mean, they moved into Afghanistan. Well, I mean, you know, the thing is, in terms of China, what we're doing is provoking them as well. Because we're talking about now sending military aid to Taiwan. This is an utter provocation. So we're drawing China into conflict, seemingly on purpose. And I don't think China is going to try to take, first of all, they don't have the military power to do it.

They do not have the military power to take over the United States or invade us or anything like that. No, but I mean, they'll start, they'll grow that power. They'll move into Central America. There's already concerns they're going to try and make a move. They were trying to build the Nicaraguan Canal to gain control or at least compete with the Panama Canal. People were, there's a rumor about them trying to gain control of the Panama Canal.

They're already moving into Africa and South America. These are not military conquests, though. No, it's more like the West uses the IMF. It's the Belt and Road Initiative, and this is how they're growing their soft power. And frankly, we should open up trade with China. We are now embargoing their chips. We refuse to send certain chips to China. What's this going to do?

This is already hurting our economy and what it'll do for them is they'll just go elsewhere for these chips uh they'll make them themselves or get get them elsewhere we're not sending them chips is what you're saying we refuse to send them certain chips yeah there's a there's a concern though that they're reverse engineering a lot of our intellectual property a lot of our technology but they're also sending us compromised electronics that was a big story a few years technology but they're also sending us compromised electronics that was a big story a few years ago where they're like your toaster could be broadcasting a signal and you wouldn't know and it's stealing your information and i don't think china's our real

our real uh threat the number one primary enemy frankly who is the state our government our government our government well elaborate why i mean our government has, look, who's responsible for more deaths of Americans than our government? We have sent more people over to die than any country has killed. So we're actually provoking other countries. We're entering in all these military expeditions. And in that way, the state itself is more responsible for u.s deaths than china iran uh russia uh or uh north korea combined you know i thought about this and i was thinking that it seems like there's an occupying force that's been controlling this country because the american

people don't want war right they never want war almost never and yet here we are consistently going into wars without having declared war on anybody. And then I think it's probably better to just say we were sold out by our politicians who continue to sell us out. So it's not so much that we're occupied. It's that we have a fractured government and corrupt politicians. Well, I don't know how fractured it is because when it comes to war and military expeditions and foreign policy, this is a unit party. They're not,

there's no distance between these people. It does seem to be like the only time they ever actually agree on anything is when it's going to war in other countries, right? Have there been polls done recently about what the American public's thoughts are on war right now? Given, obviously we know what the American people think of war in Ukraine, but have there been studies or any type of polls that have

been done talking about what they think about military intervention in Israel? Interestingly, there was a poll done on Biden's approvability rating, which fell by 11% among Democrats. So that's a good sign. So it went from 86 to 75 percent and for Arab Americans it fell like from like 58 to 17 percent in a matter of weeks. So interestingly there is a divide in the population in terms of support for Biden because you know I mean a lot of the left doesn't want this conflict. Now they are hypocrites because they were fully in support of the Ukraine war. And the right is also hypocritical because now they're in support of this war in Israel, but they weren't in support of the war in Ukraine.

And also, in hindsight, they oppose the Iraqi war. Isn't that convenient? I want to pull up this story. We got this from the Wall Street Journal. Israeli airstrike hits Jabalia refugee camp and forces extend their advance into Gaza Strip. We have live updates. Apartment buildings were flattened in the strikes. Egypt said it would defend its territory but take in wounded Palestinians. So I think we have a clip from CNN that I'll play for you. Well, I don't know if basically this is from Ahmad

Eldin. He says, Wolf Blitzer, you knew that there were innocent civilians in the refugee camp, right? IDF spokesperson says this is a tragedy of war. Let me just play the clips. I don't want anything being taken out of context for you guys. So we'll just we'll play this clip for you now. But even if that Hamas commander was there amidst all those Palestinian refugees who are in that in that Jabalia refugee camp Israel still went ahead and dropped a bomb there attempting to kill this Hamas uh this Hamas commander knowing that a lot of innocent civilians men women and children presumably would be killed is that what I'm hearing

that's not what you're hearing well we again We, again, we're focused on this commander, again, who you'll get more data who this man was. He killed many, many Israelis. We're doing everything we can. These are, it's a very complicated battle space. There could be infrastructure there. There could be tunnels there. We're still looking into it, and we'll give you more data as the hour moves ahead.

I mean, they just... But you know that there are a lot of refugees a lot of innocent civilians men women and children in that refugee camp as well right this is the tragedy of war wolf i mean we wow as you know we've been saying for days move south the villains are not involved with kamas please move south i'm just trying to get a little bit more information you knew there were civilians there, you knew there were refugees, all sorts of refugees, but you

decided to still drop a bomb on that refugee camp attempting to kill the Hamas commander. By the way, was he killed? I can't confirm yet. I mean, Wolf should have just let him answer the question, then he just jumped to another one. We get the point.

Israel says they carried out an airstrike that Hamas claimed killed more than 50 people in Gaza's Jabali refugee camp. Dozens of bodies. Here's my issue with this. That CNN interview, yeah, damning. But Hamas lied about the hospital. And many on the left, pro-Palestinian groups and left, lied about the hospital. So when stories like this come out, what am I supposed to do? I don't know about the hospital and many on the left propel city and groups and left lied about the hospital so when stories like this come out what am i supposed to do i don't know about the hospital frankly i'm not sure that the story has really been debunked that well it has they claimed the they claimed the hospital was leveled and 500 okay well the hospital wasn't leveled they hit the parking lot

yep and it may have been a couple dozen injured with a certain number of deaths we don't know but there's been other hospitals hit and they've told them to get out of the other hospitals. They've said, evacuate these hospitals. Then they tell them they're going to bomb the north, so move south, while they're bombing the south. This is unbelievable. So there's nowhere for these people to go. They're shooting fish in a barrel, and they've got them trapped there in a virtual concentration camp. I'm sorry if that sounds like leftist rhetoric.

But these people are in a walled area. No exit. No exit. What do we do? Nothing? Should the U.S. just back away? We should not have. First of all, the U.N. had a movement to have a ceasefire, and we were one of, like, seven countries that refused to go along with it.

Hillary Clinton is very anti-ceasefire there was a ceasefire when hamas made initiated the the terrorist attack like three weeks ago there was a ceasefire between gaza and israel then hamas broke the ceasefire that's what started this whole shindig that's going on now it's it's very you know listen i'm not going to adjudicate the whole history of the region but there's no way october 7th is the beginning of no yeah that's why that's why i'm kind of like i got i got i got a really good idea you guys we should not be involved exactly it's like you're there's a very serious fight happening between two of your neighbors and people keep asking you whose side you're on i'm like bro i

don't live there i don't know what's going on they're like yeah well like you know your kids like your your your dad is giving weapons to one of your neighbors, and you're like, maybe we shouldn't be doing that. I don't think that there's actually any good answer for the United States at all, because I don't think that we should give any money. I don't think we should be funding. I don't think we should in any way be involved in it,

but I also don't think that if we do what is the right thing for the United States, which is not fund it, not give any money, not support, we're still going to be implicated and we're still going to be attacked even if we're not dealing with actual terror attacks. We're still going to be considered the evil Satan that supports Israel and whatever just because of our history. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't help that we bombed a rock for, you know,

under a completely false pretext, killed hundreds of thousands of people and created millions of refugees. Any amount of like backpedaling now where we get, if we were to just suddenly start backing away from any funding of war would make us look like the ultimate hypocrites. I don't think so. I look, Trump, Trump gets elected. To them, to the people on the other side of the other ones that are, if you're talking about the people in Gaza or Hamas, they're going to look going to look i mean they're going to look at us as hypocrites anyway see i just strongly feel this is an anti-western movement the reason so the palestinians

that are on the ground in you know in israel or in gaza or whatever they hate the israelis because they have that direct actual situation they're they're fighting them they're being oppressed by the the israelis and and that's the situation for them the out the the broader context where you're talking about the region and other countries sometimes western countries the people that are pro-palestine and against the israelis they're more about being against the west more broadly they're against western society they don't they tend to not be uh they not they tend to not be supportive of democracies they want more authoritarian types governments so it's not and i'm not saying that i have an answer i'm just i'm if the west lived up to its proclaimed values perhaps they wouldn't feel that way i mean the west has been colleges

have kind of implicated that to them yeah and i mean go further down to tiktok and all these other I mean, the West has been... where it's like there's so much information there's so much propaganda there's so much coming out from every side in a part of the world that i inherently have nothing to do with other than my government's continued intrusion in other people's business what am i what am i as an american citizen whose taxes are going to fund all this what am i actually supposed to do in this situation you're telling me i have to care about this side they're telling me i have to care about this side i'm not allowed to care about the people here, apparently. That's the only people you're not allowed to care about. Hold on, which people? The Americans.

People actually living here now. Which Americans, though? Like, okay. How about the people in, I mentioned last time, how about the people in Hawaii? How about the people in any of the things that have gone on here in the last several years? Helping trim down the debt in this country.

All of the things that we have to worry about stateside before we go and start getting back re-involved in other countries we might we might revolt against the fact that they're robbing us to do this i mean they're robbing the american public the american taxpayer to to fund these wars i think trump was one of the first attempts of people saying we will rationally decide this man will enact many of these things and uh now things are getting pretty tense with the machine's desperate attempts to keep trump out of office yeah i mean it's crazy when we have uh scott horton of all people being like trump tried getting our troops out and they lied to us he

tells the truth about those matters and but trump wasn't some, you know, savior. I mean, he killed Soleimani for, you know, and that could have instigated some conflict with Iran. Imagine if Iran had killed one of our major generals. I mean, this would have drawn us into war. The only reason they didn't get drawn into war is because we have a greater force. But that's not the way the United States should be acting across the planet. We ought to be the beacon on the hill in the sense that we are free people, that people admire, that trades with other countries, is cooperative and peaceful. This would actually promote peace worldwide. It is true, Phil, what you said about it being an anti-American movement.

Did you see the infographic meme the other day it says free palestine is a queer movement free palestine is uh okay that's at the heart of it it's an anti-western anti-democracy movement more than anything else it's not that they support or love palestine or gaza it's that they love the fact that it puts the west between a rock and a hard place in dealing with the conflict. And you're right, because there is no good policy that's going to make the United States look good. I personally, like I've said over and over,

we shouldn't be involved. We shouldn't have troops over there. We shouldn't be spending money on it. We shouldn't be funding it. Israel can fight its own war. I 100% believe that, but that doesn't mean that if that were the course of action that the united states took that the rest of the world would be like oh cool the united states is doing the right thing or the good thing there are still going to be people that are going

to say oh the west is bad america's bad democracy bad liberalism bad yeah i mean when you when you try to export democracy uh with bombs like we did in Iraq, of course, people are going to be skeptical about what is this democracy you're talking about. Yeah, I agree. And I just don't think that I don't think that it's I don't think that it's limited to the Middle East. I think that there is an anti-Western, anti-liberal movement that is pretty global. I think there's an anti-liberal movement in the united states i don't think i don't think there are any liberals left i agree we're looking at an illiberal left effectively but you know there's there's no liberalism here there are it's just they're

the post liberals they're the disaffected liberals the the funny part is is like in what i do like talking about movies celebrities hollywood and pop culture you see this right now because a bunch of celebrities try to make a post that makes everybody happy and they can't make anyone happy. And this is the first time they haven't been given a clear marching order about who the good guys and who the bad guys are when they write their virtue signaling letters. Everyone gets mad at them from every side. And I think that the people that are inherently anti-American,

anti-Western love that about this. I think you see the people that only understand the wave tops of the movement. Those are the people that are shocked when they are kind of learning what decolonization means and that it's a violent revolution that's being endorsed. And they're shocked. They're like, wait a minute. I don't want to see people getting their heads cut off. I don't want to see people's businesses and lives being destroyed. Well, that's what decolonization is. campaign in the West with the ESG and the stakeholder capitalism, which is about eroding our industrial base, supposedly to mitigate so-called climate change and greenhouse gas emissions. And this is, you know, this is favoring China. That's something that we're doing to

ourselves. It's a self-inflicted wound. It's, you know, suicidal in effect. We're taking our industries and we're saying, you can't burn fossil fuels and we must use this ESG to force all these companies into this regime while China then gains all this power and wealth on the back end because they're not doing it. So let me pull up this story. This is from the Wall Street Journal as well. It's actually just below the other one. Israel goes unnamed on China online maps so a lot of people noticed that two big companies you've got alibaba and i believe baidu have removed israel from their maps that is to say this is the ccp i there's there's no private sector in china that just at the same time decides hey we're doing this thing it looks like the chinese communist party has said there is no Israel now.

So the concern here, there's been a bunch of reporting, or I should say opinions and analysis, suggesting this shows China is gearing up to join this on the side of Palestine. It's possible. I mean, they're saying Israel doesn't exist on their map. And I mean, this is, yeah, listen i china is a totalitarian state and they institute uh their measures without any kind of consent uh there's no question about it so i would i'm not surprised that they would do this i don't necessarily means that i think it means that

they're going to intervene right now although but but it's a it's a it's a definite... I mean, look at BRICS, right? Right. China is absolutely in partnership with Iran, and this is the fear. World War III is NATO versus BRICS. Yeah, it doesn't have to be World War III. You know, look, BRICS could be actually something that's good in the sense that if we opened up our own trade, then we could probably be part of this, and we don't have to disband

our affiliations and our trade associations as we're doing right now. The conflicts that we're creating and being, you know, and really escalating are actually causing these rifts, okay? Because, like, when we sent arms to ukraine and i think even though you know you said the ukraine war is dying down i bet you that 64 billion is still going over there so being stolen by somebody yeah gonna find its way into the pockets of biden perhaps yeah again i should say yeah i agree i mean there's no question there's corruption here yeah well hopefully it doesn't become world war ii i suppose i hope not but this is this what we're seeing now from china is like the first red flag where i think we should be concerned like guys we need this to turn down and so i'm i'm now especially with this

bombing of the refugee camp i see a lot lot of people. I see Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton had a statement recently where she was like, a ceasefire. You know, Israel's being attacked and you want a ceasefire, but Hamas is not going to give it. And, you know, anytime Hillary Clinton says something, I'm like, the opposite must be true. Yeah, absolutely. So she comes out and she's like, we can't have a ceasefire. And I'm like, maybe we need a ceasefire. And so we need barometers like that out there. It's right. Exactly. And like that out there it's right exactly

and you know it's like uh i was i was hanging out at a poker room we were talking about um jim kramer and uh because because i can't remember what came up something about it's gonna snow the farmers farmers almanac and then uh someone mentioned tracking stocks and i was like oh yeah if you if you if you short set uh short anything Kramer says, you're going to be up. And this one guy goes, actually, yeah, I think it's up 14%. If you bought, if you shorted everything he told you to buy, you're up 14% so far for the year. Tremendous, tremendous. But anyway, my point is Hillary Clinton says, no, we can't do it.

We need war. And I'm kind of like, all right, let's figure out this peace solution. And I think it's fair to say that, like, I agree, Hamas attacked Israel, killed civilians. And there's two ways to look at this. One way is Israel is going to be taking out Hamas leaders. I think if someone comes at you and attacks your family, you defend yourself and you stop the threat.

The problem now is, especially with the bombing of this refugee camp and the dead civilians, the collateral damage is becoming too great. And so I actually, I agree with AOC. I think AOC had a better answer

than Hillary. She said, a ceasefire goes both ways. We want Hamas to stop. Yeah. And we want Israel. She effectively said, Hamas needs to stop

fire rockets at Israel and Israel should go in and assassinate Hamas leaders. Yeah, absolutely. Look, if some cartel members from Mexico came into the United States and, you know, very, you know, conspicuously killed 1,400 people, okay, we would not bomb Mexico, okay? We should use intelligence assets to find those people and bring them to justice, not to bomb these civilians. So Israel's turning the world against them. Look at all the countries that are lined up now that wanted to cease fire.

And how many countries across the globe are condemning Israel right now? I mean, it's almost unanimous. There's only a few uh you know what's interesting about this conflict is that this is we we are at the red well how do you describe it the threshold of western sensibilities in warfare if you go back 200 let's go back 300 years 300 years and i think y'all are gonna know the answer to this what would nation a do to the people who were conquered of that land in a situation like what would be happening if it was 300 years ago that's a good question that's i think what happens fairly obvious what i think if it was 300 years ago yeah and we were looking at israel passing as it was today with the the the power of israel and what uh what Hamas is doing,

the Israelis would go in and shove everyone in the ocean and just mass purge and kill everybody. That's, and I shouldn't say that absolutely, because there are many circumstances where countries did not do this. No, right. But the issue is, as we advance as moral, civilized people, we are like, hey, we don't think it's good to just go and just kill everybody. Right.

But during the colonial period, a lot of that. And so now this is what's interesting. You've got the left claiming that Israel are the colonizers and they must be resisted with decolonizing things like that. And if they really were the colonizers that the left is claiming they are the the colonizers of you know of your it would be merciless it would be brutal you don't think it's merciless and brutal right now i think oh no no no no no if if you're saying today's brutal then we need a new word for how brutal it would be if this was 300 years ago uh 300 years ago there were colonists in af. They didn't wipe everybody out. What they did is force the- No, but we're talking about if we, 300 years ago, had something akin to Gaza and Hamas and Israel,

and a bunch of people stormed into the borders of a settlement and massacred 1,400 people, the response from the more powerful nation would be a purge of everyone. I want to qualify something about the 1400, by the way. There's pretty good evidence that the IDF actually killed some of these people. Now, I'm not saying this is not Hamas's fault, and I'm not exonerating Hamas, but they bombed houses that they thought were people were being held hostage by terrorists. They bombed people. They shot people on the street.

So, I mean, there's a good number that were taken out by the IDF. And those charred bodies that you saw in the media, that is not possible vis-a-vis the... Do you have a source I can pull up for that? I've read it in five different places, Tim. I mean, those are serious claims. I've not seen that. Did they say that Israel blew up their own villages?

They blew up houses in which they suspected the terrorists were holding hostages. I bet you need to know your sources on that one if you're in. Look at Middle East High. We'll try and pull something like that up. I don't know how... Yeah, I don't know. That's a bold claim.

Even some of the IDF forces said, we didn't know what we were shooting at. We didn't know, and just started uh shooting randomly we didn't know what to do because they were so disorganized now i i would admit and it's very true that the moss caused a great deal of confusion and threw the whole idf into a complete uh quandary they didn't know what was going on uh and so they actually committed some acts of violence against, inadvertently, their own people. You see, this is why I don't go anywhere near that. I think that's not true.

I think what you're saying is false. Okay, we'll have to follow up with that. So this is the issue I take with the Israel-Palestine conflict, is all the lies and misinformation that are spread all the time. But where do you suspect? I've heard nothing about Israel bombing its own villages. No, not whole villages. I did not say that. It's houses in villages, right?

Houses. I'm not saying they blew up a whole village. I'm saying. And accidentally shot people on the street. And that just sounds like lies. And bombed cars where the charred bodies were found. This is not possible. I don't believe it.

Okay. Let me ask you this, Tim. I'm not saying it's not possible. What would you think is more likely, the more powerful propaganda, that what's being told by the mainstream media and through coming out of Israel, this is these are the truths? Or would you think that it's more possible that the propaganda is coming from the more dominant forces?

Propaganda is coming from both. However, the left has a very strong predisposition towards manipulation and lies and deceit. Well, I'm not a leftist. No, I know. And so the issue is you don't have to be a leftist to fall for leftist propaganda. We debated the hospital bombing on this show believing

and we should not have because Hamas made a claim and it wasn't true and now we know it's not true because video emerged the next day showing the parking lot. I think it's, I think it's,

that's kind of, it's frankly, it's really a moot point because of all the civilians they have bombed. They are killing children. You know, more children were killed in three months, or three weeks, I'm sorry, three weeks this year than have been killed in all wars from 2019 to now. In each year, there were like 2,000 children killed, roughly, 2019, 20, 21, 22. In this three weeks, they've killed over 3,000 people.

This is why I just say, why are we involved? Because I don't know why we're arguing the morality of two factions fighting a war and what the justification is for arguing at all that either side is better or worse. I agree. Listen, I'm not saying there's any good guys here, okay? And I did read that claim in a few sources, and I don't have the exact source on the tip of my tongue. But let me just say this. there's any good guys here. Okay? And I did read that claim in a few sources, and I don't have the exact source on the tip of my tongue,

but let me just say this. It's really immaterial, because you're right. We don't need to find the good guy and exonerate one side over the other. That's not the issue. I just don't see that. And that includes Israel, by the way way because i think what they're doing if they have a superior morality to the people that they're killing then why haven't they shown it well i i don't think that i don't think that there's a situation where where the united states is going to be able to come to a to a to a policy position that's going

to make anyone happy well it's not going to be utopia but it's got to be better than what we've been doing i don't think that i i don't know that i believe that not not that i'm and again i'm not saying that we shouldn't try or that we should fund it every time i i talk i have to put this caveat because people are going to start saying that oh you're just pro-israel or whatever but that's not that's not what i'm saying i'm just saying that i don't think that whatever course of action the united states takes is going to be sufficient or have a substantive difference you know we have a lot of history that we frankly are besmirched with and that's going to take that would take years to actually dissipate and you know there's there's not you know we can't take back the fact

of what we did in iraq no that's that you're you're right but i mean the the the tumultuous middle east goes back to the birth of our country you know the very the reason we have the marine corps is because of the barbary pirates off the coast of north africa that area is a shit show and it's always been an absolute mess so the united states can we can do our best to stay out of the the political issues and and tribal warfare that happens in the middle east but i i don't know that whatever course of action we take it doesn't matter about like as as much as this is not condoning the iraq war but the iraq war is not condoning the Iraq War, but the Iraq War is not why the people in the Middle East hate us. That's not the reason.

It's not the reason, but it's one of them. It's not that we built bases in Saudi Arabia. It's not that Israel exists. It's been that way forever. Well, I mean, according to Iraq, they attacked Kuwait the first time because of our bases in Kuwait. So, I mean, there is something. Because the bases in Kuwait, and that was the reason for 9-11 as well, is because the bases in the Holy Land. They looked at it like the United States was conquering a part of Saudi Arabia.

And I understand that. Our footprint is too broad. That's the problem. So, yeah, it'll take a while to wash off the the the dirt that we've been involved in but you know there's no time like the present to start i again i'm i'm not arguing that we shouldn't what i'm saying is even if we take i think that even if we take the course of action that you believe is the or that libertarians believe is right and i support not all libertarians but i do but And I support that course of action.

I believe that that would be a good policy, but I don't think that that fixes the problems. I think it's naive to think that that will solve problems eventually. I think that it's going to be a mess over there. I want to pull up this video. We have this from Clown World. And this is nothing unique.

It's just another one of these videos where we have far leftists tearing down posters for the people who are kidnapped and being held hostage yeah there's a bunch of these videos there's another video where a guy puts up a flyer for a thai farmer not even an israeli citizen a guy who is just working in in israel who was kidnapped and this asian woman basically in front of him tears down his flyer his property destroys it and then basically tells him to screw off i see these people and what they're doing this is evil this is this is this is malicious intentional evil these people think they're justified in causing harm chaos and destruction and so this is the

challenge i see when it comes to, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't care to get in the history of the region. We just talk about literally October 7th. You have people glide in, kill a bunch of civilians. Max Blumenthal said,

it's because they see civilians as targets of opportunities. I'm sorry, specifically the music festival was a target of opportunity and they target civilians to use bargaining chips against the Israeli government. I'm like, oh, okay. So they're evil. That's it. Right right evil and uh what's that you say the u.s has done really horrible

things in the least hey i never said we were the good guys i'm saying right now we've got a crisis and what happens is you see these people in new york city defending hamas cheering on hamas celebrating it they're now in the united States. They're in the West. There was this massive protest in London. This is why I don't believe anything they say. I understand what you're saying. And let's talk about that story and what's going on there. What's being done here with this imagery?

This is despicable what these people are doing, okay? But why has this become news? This has become news because it serves as a news because it it serves as a deflection it serves as a deflection it says instead of being angry about what's going on in in the gaza strip what's happening to people dying instead we're we're we're diverted into this uh this particular you know despicable act that takes the pressure off of Israel in effect. This works as propaganda.

Sure, but you know why this imagery is important? I think it's very important, but what are they doing with it? That's the question. These people, given the chance, would kill you in your sleep. I don't know that. I mean, listen, I'm not sure. What does decolonize mean?

It means to get rid of the colonizers. And how do you do that? Well, I mean. Let's talk about what from the river to the sea means. Well, I agree with that. That's nonsense rhetoric. And I certainly would never use it. I'm not saying you do.

I'm saying these people have an extremist ideology. It is widespread in the West now. And that's the point I was making about Israel, the clash of warfare and Western sensibilities. We as Western liberal nations are like, we do not want to wipe out an entire people. We want to figure out how to stop the fighting and then chill everybody the F out. Their ideology is from the river to the sea. If you even just walk through what that means it's it's horrendous they're talking about genocide but i mean they're

not they're not capable of executing it okay so the so the issue then becomes western sensibilities would say act in such a way that allows them to persist the people who would kill you in your sleep right that's a liberal paradox but it's right yeah exactly exactly that's that's that's the the clash of western sensibilities with modern warfare if it were inversed and the israelis were were in the gaza strip there is no question they would be shoved into the ocean and mass executed by by the palestinians that's that's the gold by air uh point but i i mean look i don't i don't know about that i i guess we're gonna have to adjudicate the history in a little bit it's i'm not i'm not

here to to talk about the the the history of the region let's just okay we'll remove israel from this if far leftists like this are given power we see what they do with it they kill people well they do more than that they they also kill and torture yeah they try to uh they try they're totalitarians at base okay leftists are total it's in it's intrinsic to leftist ideology uh this is what they did in the soviet union i mean once they gain power leftists are totalitarian okay they're for free speech they're for all this when they're uh aspirant but once they gain power they become like uh you know lenin and and stalin and right even then it's not even necessarily that they're free speech the

liberals are for free speech i don't know if i would i don't know if there are any liberals where are the liberals well we're here i guess yes i guess classical liberal yeah but um my point is this to to sort of move on from the the the broad topical is-Palestine, but more into the philosophical and ideological. We are confronted by, right now, actually, we can maybe pull this up in a little bit, Elon Musk saying the woke mind virus is destroying civilization. You take a look at San Francisco. We'll go into detail. He was on the Joe Rogan podcast. But you take a look at what the woke left represents. And what do you see? 16-year-olds chanting from the river to the sea. They don't know, they don't care, but they will do it.

Well, this isn't just, you know, look, I admit, and that's why I'm involved in this, and this is why I was asked to be a candidate because I have been involved in cultural issues, and this is a cultural war. We must fight in the battle of ideas. Also, my bigger question is,

how do you win against a group of people who you know want you dead when you, as a faction, try to preserve life? They have to be deprogrammed, frankly. They have to be deprogrammed. That's not easy. Almost impossible. But it's possible.

Almost impossible in this day and age. In the age of the internet, when you cannot get them away from a phone, when you cannot actually get them out of the environment that's used to, it's not just the colleges, it's not just the high schools, it's not just the elementary schools, it's everything they're getting on their phone.

I don't think there's a liberal solution. Because in order to pull someone from my, to get someone to leave a cult, you have to remove them from the cult. You can't remove them. I gotta say, it happened to me, Tim. I mentioned at the beginning of the show i used to be a marxist you know what did it for me i was traumatized by them and that caused my eyes to open once i was traumatized by the left i then said this this is a totalitarian uh contention that i want nothing

further to do with at all and i instantly became a civil libertarian this can happen they eat you know the left eats its own but not not quite fast enough i think that the the attack the terror attack on the 7th did a lot to wake a lot of jewish liberals up or or a lot of liberals in general liberals in general i've had several people who definitely like who were very um very much blm in 2020 who started to at least i don't know if they were just getting their news from different sources but saw the stuff that patrice color said back in 2015 who are now seeing that what you were sold in those in those early years in 2020 which everyone told you said this is not what it is it's look at what their website says

look at all this information they weren't willing to listen they weren't they were too filled with emotion at that time and because it was scary the the consequences of saying i am not for black lives matter right you know in 2020 if you were not a staunch conservative that had people around you that would support that and that also agreed with you you're right you are not gonna go go out and say that. This is true. This happened with COVID, of course, as well. These people effectively become state agents. These people that are walking around telling, get the mask on,

and they're actually corralling you into the state's propaganda and its narrative. No, go ahead. They have these programs where, this is like 10 15 years ago you a company would ask you to go out and write down license plate numbers and where you saw them so that the state and private companies could track down the people and know where they were mass surveillance essentially snitch on your neighbors but here's the scary thing they don't need it anymore nope because now you're you're carrying around a tracking device everywhere you go yeah you are so and the the the uh the main issue i see with this is these videos of them tearing down the poster i think are extremely important

the reaction from the from the left cheering on hamas even right now these mass protests in new york uh and i say cheering on hamas i quite literally mean it i am not being cute and conflating palestine with hamas they're in new york bullhorning in support of hamas calling them the resistance fighters who fired x amount of rockets and killed x amount of settlers they say settlers are not civilians how do you i mean is it is it this is the challenge how do you deprogram someone when you cannot isolate them from the information the challenge we face as people who believe in you know civil libertarian values the right of free speech is that okay on a platform like x or on facebook or youtube we're

gonna let everybody speak what happens silos emerge of far left extremism we allow that to happen then within that sphere they start spreading oppressing and crushing their opponents gaining more and more power and silencing the rest of us if we allow them the platform they'll use it to destroy us they will not allow us the platform so we are we we have set ourselves up at a at a in a downward slope as it were where where it seems and this is why again elon musk's we'll pull that up in a second why he bought twitter to reverse this process but how do you deep like the the answer to deprogramming these people ban tiktok there you go ban tiktok regulate the algorithms and mandate well i mean you might look at the fact that exactly you does you can't you can't big digital am i supposed to expect that the

u.s government is going to be i don't want the u.s government doing that so so the problem is what would need to happen is an organic pro-american you know og ideological faction canceling people and saying this is the way we do things, and if you are a communist or a fascist, we don't sell to you, we don't welcome you in our stores. Well, it's called, yeah, I mean, this is very much of a tradition within libertarianism. It's kind of a joke, you know, physical removal of communists from our midst. But let's get back to the technology aspect, if we can. The problem is not just that these people are cultivated

in these echo chambers, that until Musk bought Twitter, and I think Musk is kind of a black swan right now, until he bought Twitter, the whole big digital social media and search was all dominated by leftism, all the way down the line google for example try de-googling your phone yeah oh yeah actually let me pull the clip up from elon and then we'll carry on this is uh charlie kirk has this tweet a year after elon musk bought twitter he finally explains why he says that the niche ideology that turned san francisco into a zombie

apocalypse would historically be geographically isolated and the fallout would therefore be limited. But Twitter gave that philosophy an information technology weapon which it could use to spread that mind virus to the whole planet unopposed. In order for the mind virus to propagate, it must suppress

opposing viewpoints. Rogan says because it doesn't stand up to scrutiny and Musk says, correct. I'll just play the clip for you it's two minutes long you've owned X for a year now the costume oh yeah yeah you ever wake up in the middle of the night and have a dream that you didn't do it and your life is infinitely easier well it's certainly a recipe for trouble, I suppose, or contention. What was it ultimately that led you to make the decision to do it? I mean, this is going to sound somewhat melodramatic,

but I was worried about that it was having a corrosive effect on civilization uh... that i was uh... just having a bad about impact it still is and um... i part of it is that it's where it's where it was located which is uh... you know downtown san francisco

uh... and while i i think Francisco is a beautiful city and we should really fight hard to kind of right the ship of San Francisco, if you've walked around downtown San Francisco, right near the ex-FKA Twitter headquarters, it's a zombie apocalypse. I mean, it's rough. Have you been in that area?

Not lately, no. I've heard. It's crazy. I've heard it's crazy. I've heard you that area? Not lately. No. I've heard. It's crazy. I've heard it's crazy. I've heard you really can't believe it until you actually go there. You can't believe it until you go there. So you have to say, well, what philosophy led to that outcome? And that philosophy was being piped to Earth.

So, you know, a philosophy that would be ordinarily quite niche and geographically constrained so that sort of the fallout area would be limited was effectively given an information weapon, an information technology weapon to propagate what is essentially a mind virus to the rest of Earth. And the outcome of that mind virus is very clear if you walk around the streets of downtown San Francisco. So, I mean, really, he hits the nail on the head. If you look at San Francisco, the human feces everywhere, the ridiculous real estate prices, it's a wasteland of failed policy. But because so much information control was centralized their information systems it was piping that that i would i would call it like fecal data yeah the equivalent of feces in data form into the brains of people and it was just melting their brains and tainting them with a mind virus. You look at San Francisco and you can see that ideology is and has been

popping up all over this country. He's he's a, Elon is trying to shut down. I still think he's got a long way to go. Beyond that. There's also just failed governmental policy that plays a huge role in that. If we're looking at DAs who aren't prosecuting violent crime, people who are like, I'd actually be interested to know what your position is as a libertarian.

Go ahead. But this is, the policy is because of social media. It's the ideology that's spread. People getting elected. It was the free speech wing of the free speech party and then it turned into a a campus safe space for a bunch of whiny baby millennials but look at look at who's opposing leon musk now uh he's getting a he's gotten a lot of pushback from the woke cartel as i call it uh and one of the major pushbacks he's getting is from the adl i, he had to sue them because they really wrecked his business in the beginning, ruining his advertising base, pulling all these advertisers out. Now,

what is that about? So we're looking at this mind virus is in the establishment, and it includes trying to squelch speech, and it includes critical discourse about some very serious issues and groups like the adl that have all of this kind of power in the system because they're automatically perceived by anyone who isn't aware of what's going on as a net force for positive good in the world when we know that it's been weaponized time and time again against various people who just happen to have ideas that they disagree with so so you you were a leftist professor. Yes, I was. And you broke out of this because you said the left traumatized you.

Yeah, they traumatized me. What did they do? They came after me. They called you racist? I started criticizing all this social justice woke stuff on campus. For example, the no platforming, the bias reporting hotline. That was a big one they instituted this like reporting spy system in which the students could report on you for making a uh a woke infraction you know what they call a bias infraction and i thought it was like a stasi state system and i

i spoke up about it i would not put the the phone number or the email address of this biased reporting hotline on my syllabi. And then I was interviewed. I started this Twitter account. It's now been canceled before Elon took over, but I can't get it back. It was called Anti-PC NYU Prof. And I started tweeting criticisms of all this from the standpoint of a professor at NYU was interviewed. And Twitter banned you? Not yet.

Not yet. They did ban it. They eventually banned this profile. Yes, they did. Wow. Yeah. And I haven't been able to revive it even after Elon's takeover. But then I did this interview and I criticized all this stuff publicly.

And within two days, the dean calls me into the office, coerces me into a leave of absence. The diversity, equity, inclusion group condemns me. I get a bunch of blistering emails from faculty saying that I was alt-right, Nazi, short pants, white devil, all kinds of ludicrous things, racist, sexist, the whole nine yards. Anti-gay. Now, today, I would just, you know what I'd write back is LOL.

But then I actually cared what these people thought. Just remember, the people tearing down those photos of the Israelis would actually be the ones calling you a Nazi back then. Yeah, they would. Well, so at the time, what did you do? You wrote an apology or something? Oh, no. No, I wrote Springtime for Snowakes for one okay and i stood up to them and uh i eventually sued them i sued nyu and five professors that were libeling me all through

the uh official nyu list serves and eventually they said you know they settled with me you know how i got them to settle? You'll love this. They filed a motion to dismiss the case, and my lawyers could not overtake this huge army of attorneys that NYU had. So I invited Milo Yiannopoulos to speak in my classroom. Listen to this, on Halloween itself, okay? And the topic of the talk was going to be how you're not allowed to wear a Halloween costume for one night, but you can change your gender by day.

Okay, that was the topic. And they shut it down. Guess this, de Blasio actually intervened and shut down my classroom himself. Whoa. Yeah. What did he do? He called NYU and said said this is too dangerous

for to take place now of course we know the danger was coming from antifa who actually put a target on my back and through twitter was threatening to kill me wow i've been told that antifa is not even a real thing it's not even real oh it's just an idea it's just an idea it's an idea that's in a lot of people's heads to make them act like antifa. To what you said, though, what you went through kind of circles the point of what you're saying. It's like, if you push back, most people don't have the resources to go against groups like this, which have massive budgets, endowments, whole groups, cadres of lawyers to back up. I realize that. I've touched the third rail.

There was significant power behind that and i realized at that point that this social justice or what we now call wokeness was really the power this was embedded in the power structure if everybody who is uh currently facing a a criminal proceeding pleaded not guilty the system would collapse really yeah the system relies on uh people taking plea bargains and so that's that's why they the system in my view is completely unconstitutional it's the i promote the jury tax or the trial tax people call different things the idea being that they will always say to you whatever whatever it is you've committed you're getting the maximum right you know it's like oh you you uh you were speeding that's you know you were going 20 you're going 30 over the limit that's

that's felony territory you're getting a year in prison and we're going to make sure that when you're convicted you get it or plead guilty accelerates the process so they could funnel more people through because they don't it's impossible to act well it's because nobody wants to do the work and so this is a huge failure of our system it's supposed to be difficult and expensive to make sure we uphold justice yeah but you see we got a lot of people who don't want to deal with it they're lazy i don't know you i don't care used to be that if a cop stopped you and i mean like early days of cops people knew the cop in their neighborhood or you had a sheriff you know or a constable i guess and they knew the people and and social scrutiny played a role in

whether or not they would be abusive. Most cops don't even live in the area. Absolutely. And so when COVID happened and Attila's gym stayed open, the local cops said, have a nice day, everybody. So they pulled in cops from a different city who said, we are now going to start putting the boot on your neck. Yeah, this is why in my campaign is a promotion of localization

and decentralization to rest control from the central government vested in the people at the local level and then nullify unconstitutional laws and mandates that are coming down yeah how many departments cabinet level departments would you get rid of if you want oh that's that's nice i to the cabinet-level departments after I get rid of the IRS, the CIA, the ATF, the FBI, of course, the Fed, etc. And the first one, the Fed? The Fed is obviously the big monster, but it's not as easy to get rid of as just go in and axe it. You have to get an act of Congress. But in the meanwhile, we can erode its power by promoting parallel currencies bitcoin etc

uh and that means you rest the power away from this money monopolist and you use currencies on your own in the local communities or in across communities this roads their power base as a monopolist i like this endorsed thankorsed. Thank you. Well, all right. Huh? I said, well, all right then. All right then. You see all the memes that have been going around for all the libertarians, dad libertarians on Halloween?

It says, me, it's a picture of Ron Paul. It says, when I implement the dad tax on my son's Halloween candy, and he slowly turns into Bernie Sanders. Yeah. Let's, uh, let's, uh, I guess we'll just talk about Ron DeSantis' boots again. Those boots are made for walking, but not for

DeSantis. Has this been happening every night or is it just the nights I'm on here? It feels like every time I'm on, we're talking about DeSantis' boots. It's because Donald Trump has chimed in and said this is the kiss of death for Ron DeSantis. And, you know, look, Ashley St. Clair. Look, let me slow down.

You know, we have these really awesome quotes from the founding fathers. And you'll you'll like look in a book and you'll be like reading about some crazy dude in the 16th century. And he'll say something like the king hereby declare through divine providence means as much declarations of divine providence mean as much to me as the manure of a horse. And you're like, wow, like, look how bold. Now it's like that was because when they wrote things down, it was rare. They talked a lot of smack, but they rarely wrote things down. So when they did, they really thought them through. Now you're going to have quotes from people in the history books that just like, I got some quotes for you, man. Like if you go through my Twitter and pull up some of the quotes, people are going to be like, what?

You know, like posting pictures, like someone's going to put like, I posted a picture of a hairless rabbit once for no reason. Yeah. And it's like you couldn't imagine the founding fathers doing. I mean, you could. They would be silly sometimes. Like Ben Franklin was known to be to have as a humor. But so now we're looking at the story about Rhonda Sanderson and his and his and his high heels. Of course, he is absolutely.

I think it's proven at this point beyond a reasonable doubt. He's wearing high heels. He's been convicted in shoe court in public. Well, because there's that video where he's walking, and his foot doesn't exist. It folds. It folds straight in. Well, I saw the interview. It says it was off-the-rack shoes.

Yes. And who says that? My point is this. The history books are going to say, I don't know what date it was, but in October of 2023, Ashley St. Claire posted a video making fun of the ronda sanders campaign and putting on thigh high cowboy boots there was which which generated a response from from ronda sanders pr team this led to a larger conversation on the same guest rl podcast finally a statement from the president from the from the front runner

for the republican party on his his rival wearing high-heeled boots. This is what the history books are going to say. Unbelievable. We live in such an unserious time. It's unbelievable. It is unserious in a sense. It feels like a sitcom episode where he's going around and they're like,

you're wearing high heels. They're not heels, they're lips. And he has to keep correcting people. It's a dystopian dark comedy though. It is. I'm okay with it, though. Why didn't they stuff his boots? Like, look at this picture.

Like, guys, take some toilet paper. They're even too long. Not only are they too high, they're too long. What is this? So just pick them up at a hand. They're too long because his foot's pulled back on a lift. And then a lot of people are pointing out when he said, they're off the rack,

Lucchese boots, people are like, who says off the rack? No. He also said he hadn't seen the clip. He's like, oh, I haven't seen this.

I'm like, you've seen this, bro. Don't lie to me. But anyway, the point is, Donald Trump chiming in and do we have the, I think the Post-Millennial,

let me pull up the Post-Millennial's version because they, I think they actually have the statement from Donald Trump. I guess the Daily Beast didn't have the statement. They just mentioned that Donald Trump chimed in. I don't know, whatever. Let me see. I think, what do we got?

Here we go. Trump campaign responds to boot gate, calls it the kiss of death. Kellen is claiming boot gate, calls it the kiss of death. Kellen is claiming boot gate is his. Kellen is claiming that that's his term, that he came up with boot gate. A scathing new article from Politico about Ron DeSanctimonious' high-heeled shoes comes on the heels of an embarrassing interview on the Patrick Bet-David show that led to boot gate trending on X. When asked directly about why his boots look like stilts,

DeSanctus offered up the implausible explanation that he just wears off the rack lucchese boots doing major brand damage to a great american footwear company oh yeah you see some brand damage all right this is why trump wins against desantis at least because that's the kind of funny statement on like a side joke where it's like you accuse centers of of besmirching the good name of Lucchese. He says, if there's any enterprising journalists willing to contact the Lucchese press team for their thoughts on De Sanctis, they're reachable here. And then he relates to it. In another moment of insanity, Rondoff wrote the laughable claim that he's 5'11".

Instead of telling the truth and just being comfortable in his own skin, he resorts to borderline psychotic behavior by lying to the American people. Is that what this country wants in a president? Okay, blah, blah, blah. How am I telling you? It's Stephen Chung, Trump's spokesperson. But I just want to say, I think Ron DeSantis is the dumbest politician I've seen in my life. The dumbest. Look, policy-wise, did some good stuff. I'm now going to chalk it up to the Florida State Legislature, a large body of individuals, pushed forth a bunch of ideas, and Ron said, okay, sounds good.

And he's getting all the credit for it. Ron has got to be the dumbest guy in politics because he's had every opportunity after every single blunder and failure. He won't fire these guys. He won't fire his PR team. It's almost like he's doing it on purpose. Maybe Ron's the smartest guy in politics, and I can't understand why it is he would destroy himself in this way. Or he's just really, really dumb. He's dumb.

But let's talk about how unfortunate it is that our political discourse has, and I don't want to come off as the pendant and the uh former professor etc etc but look at the depth to which our discourse has sunk if we can't win in the realm of ideas we have to resort to boots and boot gate well it was look it's halloween this was the trending story this morning when i wake up. I'm like, are you kidding me? It's got like 100,000 tweets, boot gate, boots, Trump. It's accessible. It's fun. It's accessible to everyone. It's fun.

It is kind of what has turned politics into a bit of a spectator team sport. Team sport. I admit that it's, is it necessarily the greatest thing for America as a whole? No, but I have a lot of fun with it. It's fun. It doesn't bother me it's fun i wish it was like a cartoon instead of reality but i was uh recently recently glenn glenn greenwald was on uh jordan peterson's podcast and one of the things that they were

talking about was people today with the with the kind of the the fact that religion became less important in communities and less important to Americans, people replaced religion with essentially what boils down to state worship. It's not quite that, but, but that's, that's essentially the effect. Um,

and I think that's probably the biggest problem that we have in the U S now. I'm, I'm an agnostic. I don't particularly have a religion that i you know that i i'm i'm more uh more you know more likely to to be supportive of or whatever but i don't think that we have the option to not have a religion people there's a lot of people that get it in their head that humans should just evolve past religion and they just don't have any idea that they don't have any idea how evolution works if that's what they

think because it takes an outside force for there to be evolution religion is ubiquitous across humanity whether no matter what society you you you look at every society no matter how far they are apart in distance or in time every society that that has had human there's been created by human beings has had some kind of religion with it religion is as inseparable from from the human experience and from psychology from human psychology as i think as humor or as any other interpersonal relationship it's probably a psychological phenomenon built to deal with our own to deal with having the motivation to keep us alive and at the same time connect well no at the same time dealing with the fact that we are finite and going to die real quick i was thinking a lot about this earlier and i was thinking about uh

kirk cobain and i was thinking about, who was I thinking about? Just a bunch of musicians who've killed themselves. And I was just like, how is it that someone like Kurt Cobain, okay, maybe it's not a good example because there's conspiracy theories around whether or not he actually killed himself. But there are many rock stars who, you know what I was thinking of? I was thinking of matthew perry and uh he's found underwater in his hot tub drowning cardiac arrest depends on the reports and a lot of people said look man this is a guy who did a lot of drugs in his day and was like pretty messed up and depressed for a while right is that just yeah and also hot tub when a with any heart condition is a

no-go not so so i started thinking this like how could you be on the show Friends, the biggest show, and like still one of the biggest shows ever, making, how much were they making per episode? It was like a million bucks. More than that. Like, yeah, several million dollars. And then resort to doing drugs. I'm like, how do you? That's the norm.

No, but no, no, no. But I think I get it. How come Elon Musk is the world's richest man and is not doing drugs and not drinking purpose and exactly so for for if you're a regular dude and you're funny and then someone says would you like to be funny in my show and you're like sure and every day you struggle every day you're trying to figure out how to pay the bills every day you're waking up figuring out how you're going to pay your rent and then one day someone says make this joke on tv you do boom biggest show in the world all of a sudden you have no struggle all of a sudden you are

loaded with cash you have nothing to do you don't have to worry for anything and you've never you've never had a strong purpose your purpose has always been to survive but now you don't have to whereas elon musk's purpose is advance humanity in the ways he wants to so what's what what's missing i believe and always it just roots down to one simple thing for many people religion yeah yeah and i think uh i think the point was made to you know statism has become a religion and this was the case and identity politics that's how they they fight the depression right there you've got these young women that are chock full of crazy pills you know the most

irritating thing to me is when i hear like some millennial woman be like he needs a xanax or like i take a xanax like no stop doing these things well look i'm not gonna tell you what to do your doctor prescribes it you do what your doctor says but i'm just like it's insane that people are like well better take a mood stabilizer. They tell everybody else to get therapy, not realizing that it's not necessarily for everybody. We've medicalized a lot of the world today. To your point with actors,

I think a lot of it also has to do with the fact that they have a very dangerous combination of both insanely high egos and extremely sensitive personalities because the profession as a whole requires you to be very much vulnerable all the time, which leads to heavy drug use for a lot of them. And I think that's true of a lot of what's going on

in American culture right now is there's a lot of depression. There's a lot of sadness. And people, it could be that they're not filling it with religion like they did in the past. And the people that are filling it with what we would call now identity politics or the state as a religion are being fed an ideological means of hatred.

Yeah, the state's a failed religion. A statism is a failed religion. It will not sustain you. Like if we're talking about Marxists telling you, whoever told you, you've been raised to hate your country. You've been raised to hate people that see the world differently than you while being told that they're oppressing you even though that dude's as poor that that dude is as poor and is in as miserable as you are how is that not a world of depression and sadness for people and it gives you a sense of moral

superiority which is the most dangerous part of you it allows you to to oppress people to act violently the whole punch a nazi thing it's like as soon as as soon as as soon as the argument was it's acceptable to punch a nazi everybody became a nazi because it was just whoever i want to punch is a nazi that's the excuse is your so it gives people the excuse to behave terribly to behave with aggression and and and malice towards other people and feel like they are they are doing the morally correct thing and that's i forget who it was but someone someone quoted that that's the most delicious of psychological treats to be able to abuse someone and feel like you're doing it as

a good thing and if you look at the the jihadis the the the islamic terrorists that's what they all do they all believe that they believe that they are in the right, and if they beat the crap out of an infidel, God wanted them to, so that was a moral thing. Throwing gay people off a building, it doesn't matter because God wanted it. You can be as atrocious to people that don't believe in your religion as you want

because God has said it. And it's the same type of attitude from the Marxists and the far left when they're saying, oh, well, beat the Nazis. Another thing about wokeness as a religion, it's, you know, unlike Christianity, there's no redemption under world list, right? So if you're white and, you know, male, you're damned. For eternity, there's no way out. And, you know, going back to your point about religion, anthropologists have suggested they you know why religion is so uh

durable is because it actually came at the same time as civilization as we got into uh creation and you know creativity innovation etc it it sprouted at that exact same moment so it's no surprise that it's it's so uh it's so recalcitrant for some, or otherwise you might say it's very, it's, you know, a kind of permanent part of human life. And I'm agnostic as well, but imagine the hubris of like just now in this time period feeling like you found the answer that every generation in the past didn't need. The atheist movement in the early 2010s probably did more damage to America than. It's exhausting. I do love these like 18-year-old leftists who think they've discovered

universal truth that no one else has ever thought of and like they just have not read any philosophers. Yeah, I was 18 before once too. I think a lot of it is like in the age of the internet like the ease of access to information and this is something that i think we're all at least somebody like me is

guilty of as well and have to like put myself in check like knowing something isn't the same thing as understanding it like and you have access to a lot of information and then you have people believing that they know better than somebody who's practical in their field and that's just not the way the world works right yeah you have to actually live things and experience things to have real knowledge. It isn't something you can impart through just information per se. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. It's a, all of it is very like, that is the most depressing. Like out of all the conversations we just had, that might be the most depressing, like all the war and everything, but it's like everything that's going on.

I find like what's gone on in the last because it's like it's been so quick in the last 12 to 15 years the the shift in american values in the last 15 years has been so abrupt but why is that shift happening because millennials are entering the workforce so it was a crazy moment for me when i used to play shows as a teenager i'd go to a cafe and i'd play an open mic and then one day i turned 21 and when i used to play shows as a teenager everyone at the shows was always between the ages of like 16 and 20 because as soon as you turn 21 you're at the bars so i turned 21 and i'm like i'm gonna find an open mic and i'm like oh here's one i'm like i'd go to open mic.com and I'm like, oh, it's at a bar.

I show up. Everyone's 40. And I was like, whoa, this is kind of weird. Like, I've never experienced this. All of a sudden it was like the training wheels come off and welcome to the real world. The entire bar is full of people of all different. There's like several decades here of different values, different worldviews. I had now at that point entered that this adult space for the first time playing shows

with people with tremendous way more experience way more opinions more knowledge more wisdom some stupid people don't get me wrong and so what happens is we're like how did it how did the world how did how this country changing it's not that people are becoming woke it's that young people were indoctrinated to be woke and now they're old enough to have an influence in the marketplace in politics. If there's a white pill, I'd like to drop on all this. I do think there's going to be a renaissance of liberty-minded people. It's going to come out of this movement, because, as you pointed out, it's a path to destruction,

destitution, economically, socially. It leads to decadence. And there's going to be a renaissance of liberty-minded people coming out of this woke contagion. I hope that's true, but I'm going to be honest. The number one place where I see this topic is when people talk about the housing market, when they talk about the price of housing,

how so many young people are being priced, you know, your parents say go to college. You're like, oh, you went to college in a part-time job, blah, blah, blah. We see these very, very doomer descriptions that are accurate. They're accurate to the world we're living in right now. But I don't think that creates people

who want free markets because they've been poisoned to believe that the free market is a... Yeah, but I think we're going to... It's going to create communists and it's going create socialists yeah but they're gonna they're gonna experience the misery that that brings and that's we're all gonna experience we all are and then we're gonna have to fight our way out we have to fight our way out there's no question that before we get to before we get back to living i mean it's gonna be san francisco times 10 everywhere oh that's

depressing unless i'm not i'm not i'm not convinced that it gets to a communist Soviet-style country. Not exactly, no. No, I think we may already be out of the tailspin and starting to pull back. If you look at Bud Light sponsoring UFC, we all kind of groaned when they did, but now you see Sean Strickland being like, oh, yeah? Let's see how Bud Light responds to this dude getting up on stage with a bud light in hand saying a whole bunch of anti-woke and defensive things to make the point bud light is forced to back him now and back his speech and his speech is not favorable towards

trans people even if the tide is turning and you might be right about the tide turning even if it is this is something that is going to take a while to get out of the schools because there are people that are going to fight like hell and there's also industry that's already built in you've got people with tenure that aren't going to want to give up their jobs you've got in you've got who cares about schools there as long as they're in schools and they're teaching kids these things kids are going to be coming out of schools but and you have 20 years of of graduating classes that believe this crap but i but i what i'm saying is two things first we we've part of the movement has already been to criticize schools in general for everything they are not just to be like oh there's work

in schools no it's not right like schools are bad homeschool your kids exactly but then also if young if if if you go on twitter if you go on x if you go on instagram you go on these platforms and you have the wrong opinion you're made fun of you don't get followers if the shift among prominent popular people and celebrities is against the wokeness now especially because of israel yes these young look i've told this story before when i went to vidcon in like 2016 and uh i'm 2016 and I'm walking as I'm walking in I see this group of kids

probably 13 years old and one kid goes you have 80 followers? How do you have 80 followers? Wow. And like these little kids are growing up in a world where follower count matters

and that's going to warp their brains in crazy ways but guess what? If you're in high school and you're like I want a million followers and then you see all the celebrities are getting behind Israel and opposing the left.

And now you get Amy Schumer retweeting or posting on Instagram campus reform, which is a more right-leaning outlet. Now these young people are like, I want a million followers. I want to be a celebrity. And they're going to go in this direction. That's right. I think I've said this in my book, Great Reset and the Struggle for Liberty. We need defection from the elites. We're always going to go in this direction. Yeah, that's right. I think I've said this in my book, Great Reset and the Struggle for Liberty. We need defection from the elites. We're always going to have elites.

There's a natural elites, you know, not just those that are propped up by the state and other artificial measures. But we need defectors. And, you know, perhaps Elon Musk is one. We need other defectors from the elite. And, yes, you could be right. And pull, you know, so give people somebody to, you know, we need public voices that come out against all this. And that will be a big part of this. And I hope to make my campaign part of that.

And that is to, you know, be publicly stating these things. I'm doing the mind virus. Is there like a primary for the Libertarian Party? Yeah, there is a primary. When is it? It's ongoing now. Oh, it's ongoing now? Oh, yeah.

Well, see, we have a convention in May. And that convention, that's where the candidate is chosen by delegates. Delegates? Yes. It's not an open voting system. It's a delegate selection system. That doesn't sound very libertarian. No, no.

What you mean to say is that doesn't sound democratic. But libertarianism and democracy are kind of there's a tension there let's be real about that yeah yeah because actually democracy in in in its extremes it infringes property rights 100 okay so you know three out of four say your your your money is mine uh you know there you go you can rob that guy so but i but i do kind of feel like system but i do kind of feel like you know i just start from the ground if you're a libertarian the question is why does anyone have authority over me good question and so nobody does as libertarians we don't think we should have authority over so why am i running for office is that where you're going no why why

is it a delegate-based system that's determining who gets to be the nominee why why why does the party have the authority over over my choice in who should be the nominee who should be uh yeah yeah i mean to be fair it's because the party is giving them the backing basically yes that's right so the party is choosing at least it's honest about it look at the democratic party what they're going to do right what well what they're going to do. Well, what they were going to do to Kennedy, for example. And they made it very clear. It didn't matter how many votes he got. They were going to give it to Biden or whoever.

I'll give it to Biden. Whoever they stand up. Biden needs to be the nominee. I don't think he will be, though. Whoever they stand up. Yeah. I mean, if they can stand him up, you know, long enough to. Gavin Newsom met with Xi met with uh xi jinping

because he knows he sees the writing on the wall same as everybody else it's not going to be biden feels like gavin newsom like the more the more that i see about it yeah there's there's a lot of play out there even when you see conservative women being like i hate his guts but the guy's handsome you're just like man this is like he definitely has like an evil quality about him. Take a look around Los Angeles. Take a look around San Francisco. Look at the outrageous destitution and horror that this this guy's policies have brought to this state. We've talked about how the way to remove Joe Biden is like the perfect scenario for the deep state is joe biden suffer some kind of medical issue gavin newsom runs on biden's at a rally in california and then has grips his chest and then gavin newsom runs out perform cpr saves the life of the president kamala harris steps in as

acting president but says she she does not want to start a campaign this late in the season she wants to do her duty to this country gavin newsom then says i will do it goes on every also the press tour but what if what if it's just something crazy like joe biden sacrifices himself in some really crazy way like bringing peace to the middle east or whatever he personally goes there and like walks on the battlefield and holds up his hands and then they're like no joe and then he goes down in history as like the savior that's how they get rid of him uh yeah but i'd be very surprised about that he's gonna eat an ice cream cone too fast and die of a of a brain freeze sniffing someone's hair by the edge of a mountain and he just falls right now this guy's just a prop i mean he's a ventriloquist dummy there's nothing there also to your point phil well you

know but but i think it's fair to say more of like um i don't know if ventriloquist dummy is the right right phrase because he's also sort of this vacuous pit for money laundering yeah that's true you know yeah yes that's that's true he has kind of a money pocket in his um in his puppetry maybe he's a pneumatic banking tube where where the government can put the money and then yeah yeah yeah yeah that's true good to what you were saying phil also about the you were mentioning the schools but also the companies the corporations where all of these policies have been enacted and are now enshrined it's going to take an inordinate amount of time to get that removed from their what they call mission statements or their company values which is i still laugh maybe more funny than anything else is the idea that a corporation has like a

mission statement or has values but you know you've got you've got mid-level uh mid-level employees with hiring capabilities that have been indoctrinated with these viewpoints who have been shoveled this stuff for the last two decades you're not just going to have to get rid of them you're going to have to get rid of the people under them yeah i don't think there's a lot of conflict between my point and what tim says i'm'm thinking that it's just going to take time to actually get this stuff out. It didn't happen overnight. It happened quickly because of the internet and stuff, but it didn't happen overnight. I don't know if it's that it happened quickly.

It's that they placed the chess pieces over a long period of time. I agree with that, too. And then the internet just allowed the game to move faster. There's something else involved with wokeness it's not just cultural or ideological it is actually economic and they're actually they've seized upon this as a means for establishing what i call a woke cartel and that is to get rid of businesses by virtue of saying look if you don't get uh larry fink says larry fink of blackrock if you don't if you don't live up to this ESG, now he's changed the name of it

because it's got such a bad name. If you don't live up to this ESG, we're not going to invest capital on you. So this is kind of a cartel scheme on top of all the cultural stuff. Wokeness is kind of like a demarcation device to siphon capital to the right players and get rid of the rest. True. I think a big component of it was creating division amongst the working class as it pertains to the populist uprising with bernie and

trump they they're like oh you occupy wall street that's a scary thing you got a bunch of people complaining about big bank bailouts what do we do yeah make them complain about the race of the other person and that's what happened. Mostly the left, right? The right didn't go racist. Right, they did not. No, but I think both sides took the bait and they fight about it back and forth nonstop. I think everybody ends up taking it.

I disagree. We are complaining about wokeness because wokeness is a bad thing. The left took the bait and became woke. Oh, yeah. And I think it was used against... Sorry, just real quick quick i'll put it this way you you've got two two guys that are teaming up against you know the big fat cat so

the big fat cat throws you know like some coyotes into your room and then all of a sudden you're like now we have to deal with these coyotes you know they're a problem yes wokeness is a distraction but it's not something that we can ignore no it has to be fought directly i'm just thinking more like 2020 when george floyd happens and you have black lives matter and then you have the people saying all lives matter and then they fight about what that means for the next eight months right that's a distraction but both sides ended up taking the bait because both sides felt like they had a right to have their opinion heard, and neither side felt like the bad guy. Except that the

DOJ made one side the bad guy. They told us that the biggest threat to our country was white supremacists as domestic terrorists. And a lot of times, to me, I believe a lot of the people who took into this ideology on Facebook, who weren't necessarily the most politically inclined, but buy into the slogan, right? That lot of the people who took into this ideology on Facebook who

weren't necessarily the most politically inclined, but buy into the slogan, right? That's why the slogan is so effective. Give it a good name. You know, good company. We're the good company.

Why would you not support good company? Right? You buy into that. So the average person who's just working his nine to five job, who just wants to support other people, he doesn't realize that he's being used as a pawn by these companies and making it impossible for people to have honest discourse. Yeah.

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which is coming up in about 30 minutes you don't want to miss it you as members actually get to call in and talk to us and our guests but for now we will read what y'all have to say tyler b says if you ain't first you're last oh those are fighting words he actually beat i'm not your buddy guy i'm not your buddy guy says i hope people appreciate the gravity of 2024 and the consequences should the left win. Clinton has already teased what they're thinking. What, World War III? Mm-hmm. The bonus hole says if you don't follow

Oh, if you don't follow the bonus holes on X, Kathleen Kennedy will crawl out from under your bed and release a rebooted version of the OG Star Wars trilogy and she'll replace Vader with a chick and make her gay. Happy Halloween. Did you watch the Pandaverse? No, was it good?

I loved it. Oh, really? I should watch it. It's masterful. They end up criticizing Kathleen Kennedy and the people that criticize Kathleen Kennedy, but it's done in a way that's pretty good. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are pretty good at that still. Yeah, everyone gets it.

I mean, because Cartman is always the stand-in for... Because Cartman is the anti-woke person. He's still the stand-in for... That lets you know a little bit of what they think of you, but also what they think of Kathleen Kennedy. But she goes and she finds the Panderstone in the depths of Disney. Oh, it's amazing.

I saw that clip. Yes, it's really... And then it rips open a hole into the multiverse or something. Yeah, the layers of irony are wild. They're like, the human brain can't fathom the multiverse because the idea they're making fun of how the multiverse or something. Yeah, the layers of irony are wild. They're like the human brain can't fathom the multiverse because the idea they're making fun of how the multiverse is stupid. And it's like Randy's just in the multiverse and all that's happening is his clothes is changing.

He's like, oh my God, I'm wearing a Dolphins jersey. Oh my God, I'm wearing a Giants. Like it's really, really funny. It's good. All right. Let's grab another one. Waffle Sensei says, The DeSantis heels gate,

it's boot gate, scandal is the most attention Ron has had in months. It's actually all coordinated to get his name in the press. This is 4D chess, boys and girls. Strut your stuff, little D. The world is watching.

Tiny D. Maybe he just wants a boot sponsor. I want to say, one of the things this boot gate is diverting attention from is the weird fact that DeSantis sends from Florida arms and aid to Israel. Is that weapons? Yes.

Including citizens' weapons who were given. Now, whether they are allowed in or not is another question, but DeSantis is actually arming Israel himself. Wow. He's like, if I'm not going to get to be president, I'm going to do this before just in case. Yeah, right. I'm going to act presidential. Send arms over now. Neoconron. Right. Neoconron.

Juan Castle says, Bwaha, Tim Pool, where is your Count Chocula costume? Nobody's dressed up. I'm just dressed as me, a thought criminal. We had multiple Halloween topics, Tim. Best I can do. It's Tuesday, though. That's the up. No. No one's dressed up. I'm just dressed as me, a thought criminal. We had multiple Halloween topics, Sam. Like, best I can do. It's Tuesday, though.

That's the challenge. Like, if Halloween's on a weekend, then people... Yeah, Halloween's this past weekend. Yeah. Yeah, everybody... I saw a lot of people when I was in Pittsburgh trick-or-treating on Saturday. Oh, yeah. It was big time that night.

Yep. Yeah, so it was like they'll have trick-or-treating on the weekend or something. Not on Tuesday. I was in Hagerstown, there was like a parade going on. I was like, Oh, this is kind of wholesome. There's all these families out with their kids.

That was great until it was like impossible to get out of Hagerstown trying to drive around the parade. All right. Eric Mack says, Tim, are you recording the process of building the coffee show? Because people do like watching that kind of thing. We're not.

That actually would be a really, people love that type of stuff. Yeah. It's like how to build a coffee shop. Just like like you could even do like weekly updates like i mean there's people here with cameras just simply like go out grab some b-roll of what's going on talk to whoever's in charge and get like a two to three minute update on what they've done this week and posted on teamcast.com the reason i think that the economy is collapsing and the end is nigh is because of how difficult it is to do simple things.

Oh, the red tape is insane for everything. But it's not even red tape. It's the inability of contractors and companies. To function. Yeah. And we've got a bunch of people being like, my company can do it. People don't know how to do anything. It's not just that.

It's that the system is completely broken. Yeah. So when we get hit up by companies saying they they can do the job and then it's like eight eight weeks go by and they're like why haven't you started and they're like well we didn't get the permit yet yeah and then uh and then there's some kind of error or problem and then it's delayed again we we got a frog pond installed and we were like expedited they're like we'll come out this weekend a month later it was done now a pond is a really simple thing they dig a hole they line it and they put rocks around it and a filter.

And it took a month to do what was supposed to be a week project. And I'm like, I think the world is collapsing. Yeah, it's pretty bad, man. People can't, you know, we've got a kind of dysfunction in the system because people have been, you know, they've abdicated all these rules to the state, and so they don't know how to do anything anymore. We need to resume taking over. That's the other storyline, and the storyline isicated all these rules to the state, and so they don't know how to do anything anymore. We need to resume taking over. That's the other storyline,

and the storyline is that all of the handymen in South Park are billionaires now because of AI. Nobody knows how to do anything. So all their jobs have been... So it's talking about taking down the billionaires. It's just these two handymen who are both just insanely rich because nobody knows how to do anything anymore. Is that the kind of verse?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. men who are both just insanely rich because nobody knows how to do anything anymore. Yeah. Bomani says they find it funny how Tim has armed security, fled to West Virginia, hides on a compound, obscures his address, hasn't not worn his beanie in years. I haven't worn my beanie since I was

I haven't. I've always worn the beanie. Go back and look at the photos when I was 14 and skateboarding. Yet calls his financial supporters cowards. Wait for the coat cope when did i call my financial supporters cowards that that literally never happened but i'm more than willing to read your fake criticism it's amazing what people say you know outrageous things that they have no basis for just make yeah they just make shit up make shit up constantly well but uh we'll break it down uh armed security you bet i also have a bunch of guns myself. Why would I not have security? Do you have people threatening to kill you all the time? Sometimes if you go out into public, Antifa, maybe. But like, do people send bombs and bomb threats to your house? So why wouldn't I have armed security? Fled to West Virginia. Why would I want to live in New York or California? I went to a place where I could push back the wokeness. Where we are in the panhandle in west virginia you've

got woke people trying to move in we're pushing them out we're going to be building an anti-times square and helping to uh secure americans values hides on a compound i love everyone calls it a compound it's like a single office it's a building yeah i mean i'm not going to give anything else away obscuring your address like yes my my my 50 acres in new hampshire is the compound and so yeah it's like it bro obscures my address are you now going to post in the chat your address yeah really i want you to dox yourself yeah yeah right yeah and then i literally you're doing localization and you're doing decentralization and you're doing it in real life this is what we need it It is the weirdest thing, though,

how people call this a compound. And it's like, if we bought a building in the city, they'd call it an office. But you buy a building outside the city and they call it a compound. And I'm like, okay, now hold on. So it makes you sound like David Koresh.

Yes, that's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, like, the point is, they have, the people who are trying to tear down, I think it's fair uh all is fair in love and war the left needs to lie because that's the only way they can win yeah so for instance phil is a failed musician according to son piker despite having multiple gold records and a platinum record coming out with new music and like opening for metallica quite literally

the the hallmarks of success yeah but they have to lie about it. That's also why he didn't say his name. They claim, I don't know how to skateboard. Well, we got a whole bunch of clips. We got a couple clips I could put up. I just didn't even upload them. Richie comes in and he's like, hey, Tim, do a switch tray flip. And I'm like, all right, I guess. First try, switch tray flip. No problem. They have to lie.

It's also a ridiculous criticism that has nothing to do with this here. The idea of claiming that Phil is not successful or I'm not successful is because they don't want young people to look up to us. That's what they fear the most. Actually. So that's the thing.

It's a compound. It's like, well, it's a giant mansion with a mini ramp in the basement, a skate park outside, but it's just one big building. However, Freedomistan is 50 acres. That's more of a compound. But what does compound mean? They just want to create a correction. That's what they're trying to suggest.

Yeah, you've got arms in here, and you're basically barricaded behind walls. They're trying to claim it's like, yeah, there's a big fence keeping people out, and everyone lives here. Like, nobody... The feds should come after you, too. That's the other thing it suggests.

Right. All right. Well, I'll tell you this. The building that we have at Freedomistan is a big, sterile, white building like any other office building. So there you go. They'll love that. Yeah.

They'll love that. They'll be like, okay, well, it's a regular office building, I guess. I like that Tim guy now. He's great. All right. What do we got? We'll read some more Super Chats. CBA Buck says, last night you talked about first aid for a severed jugular look up scott from kentucky ballistics and his injury

just stick a thumb in it yeah that was that when the cow blew yeah it blew up and it hit his neck is that what he did he literally stuck his thumb in it yeah oh wow and that and he lived he made it if this dude who got hit in the neck in the uk just went instead he just put his hand on it and then bled out in 50 seconds yeah that's crazy man the lion says there is no such thing as palestine the region was renamed by the romans as a slight to the jews who had been expelled from the region following the bk rebellion philistia philistines palestine right, because the Philistines really came from the water, or the water really came on the boats. I don't know what this kind of point is,

this poster is trying to make. I think that you're trying to suggest that there's no, there's no historical conflict over the land there. No, no, no, they're arguing that the land belongs to the Jews. Yeah, but there's a, yeah, it's kind of like saying that there isn't a real historical conflict between the people that live there and the people that got that live there now this was the issue uh one of the issues i had with max blumenthal he said i think it was max when it

wasn't max no it wasn't max um i think maybe yeah it was scott scott horton said this that the people who currently live in israel the people who have always lived there they were jews but they were conquered by the muslims and told convert or else basically so they did and then i'm like so the argument is that a conquered people are being reconquered like i don't know that history but i but if that's the argument you're like war is happening again it's like what i would defend is the property rights of people that owned houses and things like that they owned property and and they, you know, they were, you know, either scared out of their property or ejected from it. That's for real.

I'm sick of the lies. And it's funny because. It's very difficult to get to the bottom of this history. Yeah, but it's the left lying like 90% of the time. They could lie. But it's just like, it's just everything we see. Donald Trump didn't overfeed the koi fish. He did what Shinzo Abe did. Donald Trump didn't overfeed the koi fish. He did what Shinzo Abe did.

Donald Trump didn't call Nazis very fine people. They just lie about everything. They lie about everything. But sometimes a clock is right twice a day, a broken clock. I mean, sometimes they're right. And I don't discriminate about what's true based on who's saying it necessarily. But guess what? At any point, when you look at a broken clock

and you know it's broken, you check another clock. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'd go for other sources. Absolutely. I would not go with leftist propaganda ever. So let's amend that. They say a broken clock is right twice a day.

Find another clock. And I would add to that, and yet still, you will always check a working clock to verify. Absolutely. I would never rely on leftist propaganda for anything. The problem is the average person just doesn't have the time inclination or they're not as involved in this situation to understand.

It's very difficult. It really is what's concerned, like post-concern for me. Like everything I read, I have no idea without checking three to four different sources whether it's true or not. And that just leads a lot of people to disengage. I go back to Israeli historians, actually, and look at what they say. These people that did deep research into this. And that's where I get my source from. All right.

The Bahamian Rain Man says, I turn 39 tomorrow and all I want is for y'all to tell me whether or not Trump's voters can legitimately write his name in on the ballot should his name be removed and whether or not he can still win with these improvised written bouts. No, he can't. If his name is removed, then the state has decided they will not honor. They will not honor those votes as Trump is ineligible. So no matter how many votes he gets, they're not going to tally them. They're going to ignore them. And so a lot of people don't get it. If New York removes Trump's name from the ballot, let's just say New York.

And how many Republicans they got in New York? Five? No, maybe like 10 million? A few upstate. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But that's so let's say California.

I think California has 10 million Republicans and 20 million Democrats. So although it's always going to be Democrat, that's still 10 million votes to the Republican in the national popular vote. California removes Trump's name from the ballot and they argue, who cares? It's a blue state anyway. Now that's terrible. And the popular vote comes out and Joe Biden's got 80 million and Trump's got 65. And then Trump wins the Electoral College and the left lose it and says, what?

And then we get four more years of we we need to get rid of the electoral college. And this will be their excuse because if Trump wins the electoral college, but only gets 37% of the popular vote, they're going to be like two to one, Biden won. How is our country being ruled by this man without realizing it's because it took his name off the ballot?

Yeah, that's true. And I would say this, even though I hope to be running against Trump directly, I'll say this, this is an outrage to be running against Trump directly, I'll say this. This is an outrage. And what they're doing to him, legal prosecutions and all this is unbelievable. It's completely a miscarriage of justice entirely, and it should be stopped. Agreed. All right. Daniel Karimian says ditching Hannity for Timcast equals best decision ever. That is correct. Yes, That is a correct statement.

I am not a fan of Hannity. I really don't. Tucker, awesome. Awesome. No. I know Hannity is just a straight down the line neocon no matter what. That's it. I remember that one famous handoff where Tucker was criticizing Amazon for screwing their employees over.

And then, you know, Hann it does they do the crossover thing and he defends amazon and tucker's like oh they seem to have been went back then they were like battling and for a while there yeah let's grab some more donald dowd says i worked at that secret base near the southern end of gaza and the sinai desert it's a radar site pointed at Iran and has like five U.S. military at it and a ton of contractors. That's crazy. Well, there you go. It's not a secret anymore.

Yeah, it's out there. Hope that wasn't like a violation of any kind of like confidentiality. Well, I mean, we shouldn't have the state keeping all these secrets from us. And I don't know how many, 500 million classified documents that we we

aren't allowed to know about the emperor's champion says why do people act like the ccp iran and the russians are completely innocent and all this stuff is 110 the fault of the u.s well um i will say because the u.s won there you go i don't think anybody's i certainly didn't mean to be saying that whatsoever well the the issue is the u.. wins and then puts a bunch of bases everywhere and then causes a bunch of problems. We then criticize creating those problems. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Russia's bad. China's bad. Iran is very bad. They're all very, very bad. The BRICS nations are a big threat. And I'm really concerned about South Africa. They're probably the worst. Yeah, you could say that.

I mean, one of the things that people forget about. I looked over at Surgeon and said... Yeah, one of the things people forget about the U.S. is that we control... We basically keep international trade safe with our military. Our military, meaning our Navy, etc. Our naval power.

I don't know if the countries would do that. They haven't indicated that they would do that as well. So, that's something people forget about. You were born in South Africa, right? I was born in Belgium. My parents left South Africa before I was born there.. You were born in South Africa, right? I was born in Belgium. My parents left South Africa before I was born there. And why did they leave South Africa?

Well, let's think about South Africa in the 80s. I think you could have safe international trade without a military per se. You could have armed... Hypothetically. Or at least enable people to stop piracy. Private protection firms that would protect property as it moves through various regions.

Yeah, that would develop over time, but without having the development, it's going to take time. Yeah, I agree. But let's get rid of the state. I don't disagree with you. I don't disagree with you. I think a lot of us agree with you,

especially on this podcast. But yeah, I think that people forget how much that protection it gives so many people, so many nations. It literally protects global trade. It's a huge thing. Another part of that is what Trump used to point out. It's like, we get a crap deal. I don't know if this would protect everybody.

Yeah, totally. And we get nothing for it, right? So that's even a more neutral take than... That's the thing we should be arguing against, that we have to foot the bill. We have to become the police, not just... We're trying to protect trade. That doesn't mean to be the world police and go and get involved in every conflict

in every single way that happens. It's not just us for- Which makes us a target as well. Yeah. We're not just, you know, salesmen for Raytheon. The KL Tanker says, I was thinking after you said yesterday

about how conservatives just need to have kids, but as a Californian, I have friends that have heavily conservative parents that try to pass down their values and their kids are far left. Okay, this one's really simple. It's because they gave their kids to the state. The school's got them.

That's it. So it's like you're conservative. Listen, if you're a conservative and you send your kids to a state-run institution, you're a progressive by traditional standards. Go back 100, go back 200 years, go to the founding fathers and have a discussion with Thomas Jefferson about how your kids are going to go to a state-run learning facility

and you will not see them. And he's going to be like, that's insanity. They didn't have communism. They didn't have a word for it back then, but he'll say, that's communism. Whatever word you use. Yeah, they put out little statists. That's it.

It's a status production factor yeah exactly it's very hard to get away from that with the economic standards are the way they are now with both parents almost all households are both parents are working it's very hard to we can do pod learning stuff like that but it's no very very difficult look man all of this is a choice okay and for these parents who did not see it coming and thought their kids would be okay, I understand they were victimized. That being said, now that we know these things,

the answer is make the difficult decision and suffer the hardships for your children. That is to say, get out of the cities, sell, find new jobs, and start the process of look the the we had colonists who came from europe on boats i say this all the time 20 of them died on the ships they landed on shore on barren shores and said this is worth it and a lot of them died you don't even got to do that all you got to do is go on craigslist yeah move down the move to a different neighborhood to get out of the city.

Start looking up job listings in MAGA areas, in MAGA country. Find a job and then move. Unschooling is better than going to these state schools. Unschooling altogether. But get out of these states and it is not... Look, here's what I do

in skateboarding. What I like to do is I like to imagine a ridiculously hard trick as I'm about to do a somewhat easier version of it. So I try to visualize doing the hardest version and say, okay, now I pull it back. I do a big sail on myself. So imagine you have to run through fields of landmines with your family to escape a totalitarian regime, hell-bent on locking up in the gulags, and then stop and say, oh, thank heavens, all I have to do is find a new job and find a house and sell a bunch of stuff and then move.

What do you do about TikTok and social media? Is it just keeping your kids off the phone? Yep. Yeah, it shouldn't be arbitrary. Vivek Ramaswamy actually said that it should be illegal for people 18 and under to go on social media. No. No, no, no, no.

I don't know about that. We don't need that. But it's going to be very hard because, like you said, it's about their schooling, where they're living, and also phones, the internet. There's all the ways that this information comes to them. If you found out that one of the moms in your neighborhood was hosting sex parties for teenagers in the neighborhood with beer this is an actual story that just happened yeah would you go what am i supposed to do tell my kid they can't hang out with the other kids like it's the normal social thing the kids are doing no you say you cannot go to that house exactly so when when the argument

that oh but like tiktok is what all the kids are doing. It's like, and if all the kids were jumping off a bridge, would you let your kid do it? No. So what do you do? Move to an area with similar values. Keep your kids away from bad influences because they're absorbing the world around them. And yeah,

don't let them use these things for as long as possible for as long as possible. And it's like, it's like when your kid turns 18, they get a tattoo and you say, look, you're my my kid you live in my house and my rules when you turn 18 you can go get a tattoo and smoke cigarettes but right now you live in my house so no tiktok and hopefully they won't do it afterwards by the time they're 18 they'll realize well it really is about you know these the like this uh these conservative parents had far left kids because

they handed their kids over to the far left to the state yeah what i mean is that they would not become far left right yeah i don't care about you tattoo you need to teach your kids man and you know you know the real challenges and i don't have kids but i certainly know this uh just from my upbringing is it's hard to know if hardship will make or break your kid some people are made by hardship some people are broken by it but i guess the challenge is you are worse off not having the hardship if someone is going to be broken by a moderate degree of hardship then they weren't cut out for this and you got to figure something out for them yeah but i think it's better off i really i really hate the idea of people like i'm gonna i'm gonna make sure my kids never know the hardship

i went through and i'm like why you're yeah then you end up with elon musk kid he's a marxist human beings like we're anti-fragile like we need struggle and resistance like whether it be our biology when like our bones need gravity or else they become brittle and they lose mass the way that you build your body is by put is putting resistance on it you have to struggle with things that you don't understand to learn things everything about our existence requires some kind of struggle and that is that is that is another thing that is ubiquitous across all of human society. You don't get anything by just sitting there. You have to go out. I agree.

So you can't, like the helicopter parents and the snowplow parents who go out and just try to make the world flat for their children are doing their children a massive disturbance. And our society is suffering now because, again, we're at the point where we have multiple you know multiple graduating classes a decade two decades worth of graduating classes where since no child left behind since the bush era where they stopped failing kids and stopped having you know trying to get kids to put them in safe spaces just put them pacifiers get them out just put them through the system and let them out and that's why you have a whole a whole slew of kids that can't read at grade level and stuff the craziest thing to me this has been i thought about this my whole life i i watched uh uh several educational videos on education i watched uh some some great ted talks about schooling and the

problems of schooling and uh the most important years of a human being's life zero through five where the brain is developing and absorbing everything around it and what does the average american do with their kids they sit them down put them on an ipad and have them do nothing right before ipads it was nothing yes i guess tv tv that's crazy pbs for all of human history these kids were with their parents all the time yeah learning from adults and so we see that viral video where you've got a bunch of 10-year-olds talking about the war and it's like black and white and they sound like adults

and everyone's like, why do the kids sound like this? Because they were raised by adults. Yeah, exactly. Because their influence was adults and they acted like adults. Yes, they need to be outside, by themselves,

playing with each other. And, you know, I mean... No, no, no, no, no. That's the opposite. Kids need to be raised by their parents. Oh, absolutely. But what I'm getting at is here, they need to have some independence. They don't need helicopter parents, which are completely crippling them.

Yeah. The issue right now is that kids are being raised by each other. Exactly. Yeah. Or being raised by social media. We're the state. Well, yeah. Mostly the state.

Yes. But schools, at least when I was in school, we had no respect for teachers. Anything a teacher said was meaningless garbage. Yeah. And we made fun of anybody who agreed with the teacher. So the kids had, were raising each other. Yeah. They were.

I get it. Yep. You have to fit in with the other kids instead of fitting with the adults. Sure. I was working for my family's business. And so I was surrounded by adults on the weekends at least. And so I'm like, okay, that's the behavior they're engaging in. And how do I, you know, how am I supposed to behave in things like this then the kids are all just doing

fart jokes and they grow up and they do the same thing there's a viral photo uh someone had a tweet and they said 40 years old married with kids living in the suburbs or this and it's a mattress on the floor yeah i saw the laundry yeah yeah and it's like because that person never grew up because that person was raised by children and it is i mean it it look i i feel for parents who didn't see this coming and didn't know you know but at a certain point you have the responsibility to solve the problems and to enter and to to to uh see the pitfalls and the dangers that will befall your family and if you were like, I got an idea. I'm going to give my kids to the state for eight hours a day

and have no idea what they're being told or what's happening. What do you get? You get kids being bullied, kids killing themselves. You get school shootings. You get Marxism and cultural Marxism, critical race theory, because parents were just like... Transgenderism ideology. Gender ideology.

Because parents were just like... They abdicated their responsibility. There's a video where a guy asks dads about their kids, and he's like, what's your daughter's birthday? And they don't know. What's your daughter's teacher's name?

No idea. I'm like, look, I'm sorry. If you don't know the name of your kid's teacher, you don't care. And I'm not saying that as a slight. That is not meant to be like i am insulting you like how dare you not care no i'm saying like you literally don't care right yeah like i don't know the name of the guy who fixes the septic tank here why well i don't care what his name is yeah i don't i don't handle that someone else calls and like has that maintained so i don't care yeah if you don't think about your kid's teacher,

you don't care. Maybe you should care. That's all. Perhaps. All right, Ian Crossland says, I'm coming for you tomorrow, Tim Pool. Oh, no. Well, he's mad because I said

if he's not back by Wednesday, we're taking that Ian Crossland down. We're going to put up a Phil Labonte one. We actually don't have one we gotta we gotta hit the company that made these because these are really awesome yeah we got we actually have a timcast irl one laying down over there it's over here oh it's over there it's over here yeah i gotta say this studio's way bigger than it looks on on air yeah no yeah the timcast irl one yeah yeah i don't know we framed the timcast one and so we never put the timcast irl one yeah yeah I don't know we framed the Timcast one

and so we never put the Timcast IRL one up but we probably should but we should probably get a bunch of those I just noticed a beanie on that one I just see a lot of

guns falling out that's awesome this is really yeah here's so good quality yeah Ian's has a UFO on it yeah

a little top and then what did Luke's have Luke's is in there oh I don't remember I think it has his It's so good. Yeah, Ian's has a UFO on it. Yeah. A little top. And then, what did Luke's have? Luke's is in there. Oh, I don't remember. I think it has his logo, actually. And Lydia's had something. Yeah, it has a weird logo, yeah. Yeah, Luke's has his own logo.

Shimcast. But it's fine. Seamus abandoned us, so, you know, we don't care about him anyway. So, you know, whatever. Eddie Cazada says, I'm looking for a gang expert to give expert testimony in Owasso, Oklahoma. My father unalived his daughter's traffickers who tried to take her. The police are treating traffickers like the victims.

Just a simple website. Site will have the info. Yeah, that's what's going on. It's called anarcho-tyranny. They're letting criminality run completely rampant. And you can't even defend yourself against criminals. It is not strictly what libertarians have always talked about as over-policing. What we're seeing here is instead a terrorizing of people by criminality.

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which would be sweet, I guess. Did South Africa win the world cup or something? Yeah, we beat the All Blacks. We are the winningest country four times. We're also back to back. No big deal,

guys. This is like the big game. Yeah, this is the web LS. This is the rugby world cup. Oh, wow. Yeah. So that's why I'm so excited. So, yeah, boca boca forever, guys. This is like the big game. Yeah. This is the web Ellis. This is the rugby world cup. Oh wow. Yeah.

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