Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #895 US Plans TROOPS IN GAZA, Biden Holds Secret Talks Of US OCCUPYING Gaza w/JR Majewski

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join JR Majewski to discuss secret talks being held to discuss stationing American troops in Gaza, a shocking new poll showing RFK Jr pulling in 22% of voters, Trump's trial in Colorado using clips from Timcast IRL as evidence, & the controlled demolition of the DeSantis 2024 presidential run. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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speculation that they're actively working in Gaza. The special forces are there reportedly to help identify hostages, U.S. hostages. But considering that they are engaged in a ground operation in Gaza, the speculation is that U.S. forces are in Gaza, too. So, hey, maybe it all just goes belly up and this becomes another big mess where the United States ends up losing another war. Because, you know, we backed Ukraine and they lost and Afghanistan and Iraq are disasters. And, oh, boy, we can go back in time. But here we are. We got more news.

This one's interesting. New polls are coming out and they're all starting to include RFK Jr. So now it's a three-way race with Biden, Trump, and RFK Jr. And guess what? Guess who loses in almost every one of these polls? Well, Kennedy, obviously. No disrespect. And Joe Biden. Now there was one poll that shows that Quinnipiac shows that Trump loses if Kennedy runs. But all the other polls, they're showing that if Kennedy is on the ballot, Donald Trump beats Joe Biden. And the scary thing is it's like 35 to 37. So people are not going to be too happy about those numbers.

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subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. Joining us tonight to talk about this and a lot more is J.R. Majewski. Hey, Tim. Thanks for having me, man. Who are you? What do you do?

So I'm a Republican candidate for the 9th District of Ohio for Congress. And I was the 2022 nominee. And unfortunately, because of some Democratic smears, I ended up losing my election. But I'm back into the race this cycle. You're also a big nuclear energy guy.

Yeah. Former nuclear energy guy, specialized in spent nuclear fuel. So. Wow. All right. We'll definitely talk about that. Hannah Clare is here.

Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. I'm a writer for timcast.com. It's the best. You should click on the read tab on the website and see all the work from me and other journalists. And of course, making his victorious debut.

Debut. I'm back. I don't know. Return. What's up? Hello,but? I'm back. I don't know, return. What's up? Hello, everyone. I'm back from Miami. I had an incredible, relaxing, rejuvenating spirit quest.

It was amazing. And I want to give a shout out to some people that I met along the way. Adam Sosnick from the Valuetainment Network. Thanks for having me on, Adam, on Soscast. That was a good time. Also, Lauren De Laguna, Pixie, Amy Dangerfield from the up-and-coming Pink Pill podcast. You're going to want to check it out on YouTube. Destiny had me on his show, Lichen, Destiny's Chef, The Man.

Thanks for making dinner for us. And, of course, Luke Rudkowski, who hosted me with We Are Change and Clint Russell. We did some shows. If you haven't seen them yet, go to Rumble and check out Luke Rudkowski, We Are Change. It was so much fun, Luke. Thank you. Good to be back, Tim. Thanks, man.

We got Serge to my right. Yes, I'm here. Glad to have you back, Ian. And ready to start the show when you are, Tim. Here we go, Luke. Thank you. Good to be back, Tim. Thanks, man. We got Serge to my right. Yes, I'm here. Glad to have you back in. And ready to start the show when you are, Tim. Here we go, man. Here's the story from the Daily Mail. Biden administration holds secret talks on stationing American troops in Gaza after Hamas is defeated. But U.S. officials fear deepening political peril after Israel shelled a refugee camp. Oh, boy.

So much here. So it's not a refugee camp. Oh boy, so much here. So it's not a refugee camp. Here we go again. And, but we'll get into this because there are civilian deaths. It's just, man, is this, it just lies, lies, lies. But here's, here's the worrying part of the story. First, Bloomberg, I love their warmongering headline. US and Israel weigh peacekeepers for the Gaza Strip. What does that mean? Let's just say it like it is, Bloomberg. The U.S. wants U.S. soldiers in Gaza. Now, here's what's important to understand. The way they're framing it is after Hamas. After? Well, Times of Israel, citing the New York Times, says that U.S. special forces are already deployed into Israel on the ground to assist

with recovering hostages. But come on, what does that mean? This means special forces are going to be working on, I mean, I don't see any other argument that can be made. I suppose you could argue that U.S. special forces are just in a room somewhere in Tel Aviv, you know, giving intel and giving advice. I don't think we use special forces for that, but maybe the most likely thing is they are engaged in recovery, which we on this show warned about several a month ago. That's not even a month, a few weeks ago that if U.S. citizens are taken captive, are kidnapped, then the U.S. typically sends boots on the ground to bring them back.

And so now that we're seeing this, let me put it all together for you. What seems more likely? U.S. special forces are already in Gaza engaged in operations, which will result in the removal of Hamas, by which then the U.S. wants to send more U.S. troops into Gaza. Well, how are you guys doing? I'm thinking about Vietnam because I saw that word peacekeeper. And I remember they started off the Vietnam surge of troops by calling them advisors. So there wasn't really a war, wasn't even really considered a military expedition in the 50s. I think it was the late 50s when they started sending their advisors over there. And, you know, just scaled from there. So it kind of tastes like that.

What do you think? Oh, and I also think that if there's one, if they get all the hostages out, but then there's one left, they'll use that as a reason to send 10,000 guys in. They'll just say they just want to conquer the place. They'll just say, oh, there's still 10 Americans whose identities are being remained secret, private because of the risk to their family and got to send in the troops. I mean, that's it. I mean, the U.S. is is here. Here's my fear. I hope none of this happens, but it seems like they're doing these things so that they slowly introduce you into the idea that there will be troops in Gaza.

Because does anybody remember the exact date when the U.S. announced that they were declaring war on Syria and sending troops into Syria? Yeah, most people don't. And I was surprised. At one point, I remember hearing about U.S. troops in Syria. I was like, wait, what? When did we go into Syria? Like, we people don't. And I was surprised. At one point, I remember hearing about U.S. troops in Syria. I was like, wait, what? When did we go into Syria? Like, we're in Syria.

At first, it was like, there are no troops in Syria. And then like, oh, we actually have bases there now. Yeah, they started as we're just sending them to help with something. It's sort of almost a humanitarian effort that we sent our military to take care of. And then it just escalates to being like, well, we need to always have a presence there because without us, what would they do? I mean, this is the thing that bothers me the most about uh the way the american government leans on its military which is to say we can send troops to all kinds

of places across the world but we do not send them to the border which protects our own citizens right we gotta stop being everything to everybody or stop trying to be everything to everybody we can be everything to everybody here in the u.s exactly that's right that's let's let's do that and you know that's why i'm saying i see all these like uh there's like gen z videos on tiktok where they're like we should have free education and free health care and we're spending money or the funny thing is you get this young woman and she's a communist and she's like society like the the current generation is suffering the economy is terrible we're living paycheck to paycheck when we could be having free healthcare and free college. And I'm like, here we go. And then she goes, but instead we're spending it all

in the military industrial complex. Then I'm like, deal. All right, I'll take it. If we stop funding blowing up kids in foreign countries, and then we apply whatever money is left from that into giving medical care to people, deal left. You can have that if we

all agree to stop doing this maybe that's their game though the establishment is like let's let's let's stress the american people by blowing up kids as many kids as possible around the world until they beg us we will give you authoritarian control if you stop blowing that is actually a technocratic tactic they want to give us war weariness until we'll say please give us anything but war including putting people into pods and medicating them. Making them eat the bugs. I think they'll just have a taste for it at that point.

They'll be like, but war is so fun and we make so much money off of it. We'll continue on. Yeah, it's back to the FDR, right? The FDR theory, right? Where he goaded us into World War II by meddling with Japan because he needed it to satisfy his promises of the New Deal. What was he doing with japan well they he put tariffs and and meddled with you know their trade on steel and it there was a lot too it was uh the

u.s is supplying weapons and resources to enemies of japan and to the allied forces into china yeah and so i mean right over a long enough period of time if you're like let's say hannah claire and ian are throwing snowballs at each other. And then I'm making snowballs and handing them to Ian. Hannah, Claire is going to be like, dude, you're both fighting me. Yeah, I'll be really mad. No, I will be honest. All I do is make snowballs.

Yeah, he's just a guy. I know. And meanwhile, like last night, there was a viral clip of a veteran that was crying, sitting in his car, talking about the fact that, you know, VA was right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we have we have veterans here that, you know, there's an increasing rise on veteran suicides and their their mental health and the care that they receive from the VA. It's just terrible. And I saw that video and I'm like, how do we help this guy? Right. How do we help? And then I'm just like, like the problem is how do you help all of them right you know we we that the i i i'll tell you i despise the political elites the political class so much and uh a lot of these very wealthy political uh dynasty families and i'm not just talking about like the clintons or whatever oh there's way more than that people need to

understand they're like we know the Kennedys, we know the Bushes, we know the Clintons, but there are bureaucrat families. There are mid-level manager type families that live in these wealthy areas and their families are all getting in government and they hate you. They use your children as cannon fodder.

And then what do you get? Your sons and daughters coming back to this country and they're told to go f themselves left to cry in their cars because they can't get any medical care and then they take more of your money and your labor and they go blow up kids with it yeah i mean i've never seen a president campaign on i will fix the va the va historically has all kinds of administrative problems but it's just sort of like oh i love the troops so you guys when I see you, even though we offer this healthcare system that is always fundamentally broken, right? I've never heard of a veteran who doesn't eventually

have an issue along the way. And I'm not saying that there aren't VA doctors, VA systems that are trying their best. It's just incredibly difficult. I don't understand why we don't hear more about fixing our own domestic support systems rather than constantly saying, well, we've got to have this presence on the geopolitical stage. Like, why? I'd rather be present in our own nation. I get when Ben Shapiro comes out and he says, here is my argument for war, like not for war, but like why war is happening.

We didn't. He's like, he's like, Israel didn't start it. I don't know if he says we, but Israel didn't start it. Hamas starts it this current round. I know there's generational conflict here, didn't start it. I don't know if he says we, but Israel didn't start it. Hamas starts it this current round. I know there's generational conflict here, but I get it. Ben Shapiro says Israel is justified in doing these things for these reasons. And I'm like, oh, that's really interesting. Why is the U.S. involved in this?

Right. Why? Who in this country? I mean, Ben Shapiro obviously thinks the U.S. needs to be involved to prevent destabilization of the region, eventually World War III. I get his arguments. I would argue the inverse. I don't know which one is more likely to happen, but the U.S. sending troops into Gaza sounds

like you're going to get, I don't know, Houthi rebels in Yemen and Iranian-backed militias directly attacking Israeli-like territory. I mean, the U.S. going in're the the hope is that it will be such a massive shock to the rest of these these countries it will stop them from doing anything if the u.s is in israel they're going to be like we can't go to war with the u.s yeah i get that that feeling of like wow if they finally take over then it's going to be done we don't have to worry about it anymore and that's just not the way it works man blowback is generational you kill all those people you'll see their families and their friends for for tens of hundreds like what is he was going to do occupy gaza for 20 years i mean it's i joked almost when

i said make it the 51st state now i'm seeing things like they want to colonize they want to walking back that's funny completely no it's funny because the the in the way you phrase making gaza the 51st state everyone's just like the process there is impossible and then it was funny because the the in the way you phrase making gaza the 51st state everyone's just like the process there is impossible and then it was funny because i was like what ian are we going to send troops into gaza and spark world war three and now biden's like we should send troops into gaza and i'm like so suddenly he listened to a call from the biden administration like more ideas more ideas not to mention the acute impact right you're you're stretching america's military thin and as we're

seeing right now there's probably sleeper cells all over the country and how are we going to defend ourselves i mean it's you know the way i say it is like you know you can't go to your neighbor's house and and uh chastise them for a dirty kitchen when your kitchen's terribly distraught right and you know it's not about just the cleanliness it's about being able to feed and clothe and everything else that comes along when having a kitchen. I mean, it's a decent analogy. But at the end of the day, you know, we're not even keeping our own house clean. You ever see those meddling everywhere else? You ever see those stories about the people on Facebook who have to monitor like political content and like rule violations?

There's a couple different versions of the story. One is like people see horrifying murder and stuff and they're traumatized and they quit but there was another story where it's like a couple of them where these people are working in politics in the like we got to get rid of fake news and we got to get rid of you know like rule breaks people breaking the rules and they started turning right wing because they started seeing these memes and then they kept seeing them over and over and over again as they're supposed to be policing and banning these stories they end up seeing a whole bunch of stories and then eventually they're like trump's right yeah and so i'm just hoping that you know like hezbollah and hamas they send in these and in iran they send

these sleeper cells into the united states 20 years ago and then they're like they show up and cross the border and they're like when our time comes the infidels will pay and now it's like 20 years later and they're morbidly obese and on tiktok and they're going to pride parades and stuff and watching marvel movies'm watching Marvel movies. I'm hoping the indoctrination went the other direction with them. And they've just been like, what were you complaining about? This is great.

I wouldn't be surprised if that does happen. And the segue on that, you know, I remember seeing that story. And one of the things that I took away was that the Facebook people that were monitoring these nasty memes or whatever, they were seeing all this traumatizing footage. They're getting better medical care and mental health care than our troops, right? So- You're a veteran of the Air Force. What's

the system? What's the status of the VA? What's the problem? And I guess if you think solutions. I don't know personally. I've never sought VA benefits after the service. I probably could for certain things, but I just never did. I just always felt like there's guys and women that were worse off than me. But I do have some friends that work for the Veterans Administration. I can tell you that they communicated to me and from veteran friends. There was a pretty distinct difference when Trump was in office because he broke the bureaucracy. He actually created a mechanism in which the VA doctors could be held accountable. And before it was kind of like the Fauci thing, you know, he can do whatever he wants.

He's not an elected official, so on and so forth. And, you know, Trump came in and changed that paradigm. And a lot of veterans were getting better service. But, you know, with Biden now, I mean, he reverted everything within days of being in office. Do we need a private company to rival the VA and do it better? I mean, I wouldn't argue that. I think veterans are pretty simple. We don't want much. We just want healthcare. We want the benefits that we signed up for, right? And I don't have all that trauma. I can't, no PTSD. I don't have any of that, but I have friends that do. And it's come to the point where they're seeking care on their own. They're doing different

things. Maybe it's meditation or MDMA therapy. I don't think that's necessarily bad, right? Have alternative ways to intervene. I just think the issue is when you're being told, we don't know when we can see you. We have crazy delays or programs where if you come, you have to be shipped to a different VA to have some sort of treatment, and then you don't have the support in that area. I mean, it's a length of, it's not that any medical system in the U.S. is so great, but in this case, one of the things that especially young men in this, in America are told is if you sign up and serve, you will have this resource for a long time. Your family will have this resource. And we know the VA is okay with offering veterans children's hormones, but they can't always get counselors in place for veterans who need it for PTSD treatment. I mean, the priorities

of the VA seem very strange to me. And again, I want to believe in good faith that there are people who are really trying to do as much as they can and that the bureaucracy is holding them back, but it's hard to say. We need more, in my opinion, more experimental treatment in the VA, like MDMA therapy and things, because the wars that we're experiencing are experimental wars with experimental technology like bombs are a new technology they kill everything in the vicinity they don't discriminate to see that would i mean the brain is not i don't think the brains are built for that yet well no i agree right i love that scene in the movie snatch you guys ever watch that movie with jason statham and who else is in that there's a bunch of guys it's a guy richie movie and in the movie Snatch. You guys ever watch that movie with Jason Statham? And who else is in that?

There's a bunch of guys. It's a Guy Ritchie movie. And in the beginning, you got that scene where Turkish is talking to his buddy and his buddy's like, you shouldn't drink milk. It's out of sync with evolution. And then he explains that like humans evolve eating like he's playing the paleo diet, basically. But to shift that to your point, Ian, humans did not develop over thousands of years seeing like dozens of people get limbs blown off all in an instant no i get it war existed and there was brutal stuff and people being hit and people dying and there's gore and stuff but yeah bombs

like regular old bomb like grenades are out of sync with evolution humans witnessing that stuff is well beyond what humans, you know, grew to ever experience. I felt, I was walking through New York City one day and I just felt a demolition. It's five, six blocks away. The entire earth shook.

I still feel it in my gut when I think about it. Yeah. I had a buddy that, to your point too, you know, when you come out of the military, you're used to a,

you know, a community of structure and camaraderie. And a lot of these and camaraderie. And a lot of these veterans just want support. They just want to have an outlet that isn't their family. So they're not placing this emotional burden on them. And to some of these holistic treatment types, I have a friend, Nick Mabson, who's a double Purple Heart recipient, burnt over like 90% of his body.

I just posted a thing about him on Twitter today, absolute hero. And this guy, you know, struggled with the VA for years, was terrified to come out of his home. He had so much trauma from a PTSD standpoint, but the guy found his way and, you know, he he's, he's doing great today, but you know, just the seeing the things that he had to go through, it's horrific. If the American public understood some of the things these veterans are going through in exchange for what they're asking for, I mean, this is an easy decision. sophomore year of high school make make uh these teens actually watch war footage real war footage actually watch and see what it's like and then when it comes time to vote again when they're older they're going to be like no no please no yeah let i'm sorry man the idea that we got to shelter our kids from the harsh realities of war means they grow up completely oblivious to it and then vote for it because they have no idea but imagine if you if if there was a young kid who actually

witnessed something you know like the challenge is you don't want to you don't want to break you want to make and you never know if you're going to make or break someone with something but there's too many people who don't understand what they're voting for when they vote for war when they celebrate war and they're volunteering you all to go and do it not them they're going to vote for war they're not going to go fight it right they want our men and women in uniform to go to go do these things and then when they come back it's like i forgot about it well i just read that in uh ukraine they were the draft age has been raised again i think in the average uh ukrainian male fighter is 44 43 years old average yeah they're they're pulling they're pulling people off trains apparently there'll

be like a 50 something year old guy on a train and they'll walk in and grab him like nope front line and they just sent him right to the front line hand him a gun say good luck so i'm with you on exposing people to the horror ahead of time but then i also still want people to volunteer for the military because we need domestic defense and i think i'm not sure what you think maybe the balance is yeah but look do you so i i used to work at this office and their hiring practice was to put up fake ads for what the job is this is what all these non-profits do they call it campaign work they say work on campaigns to save the forests or whatever and then what happens is when you come in for the interview they say oh you, you'll be filling out forms and talking to people about what you believe. And they go, okay, then you bring in for another meeting. And then they finally land on,

you're going to be asking people for money, strangers in the street. And they're like, the reason we do this is because if we tell people what the job is, they won't show up. And I'm like, so you think it makes more sense for me to interview 50 people of which 49 leave instead of just waiting for the one guy to show up who wants to do the job? And so that's my view with, you know, with the military in this regard. Obviously, you don't want to shock young people in horrifying ways, but they do need to be aware of what it really means to be, you know, to be in the armed forces, to be to be combat infantry and what it means to vote for it. And then perhaps the people who volunteer, the people who truly understand what they're signing up for. Yeah. I mean, I feel this would be the most helpful in high schools in blue areas. Right. I mean, in my personal experience,

you know, I grew up in Connecticut, blue state. My brother enlisted in high school to be in the Marine Corps, and his high school fought him tooth and nail the entire way. He was 18 all the senior year, so he could be enlisted. But they were like, no, don't you want to go to college? Don't you want to do this thing? You have to be over here. You have to think they have no military family members themselves, maybe their grandfathers, but there's no actual connection to it. And so there is a idea that that's for someone else to do. That is some, that's not for me. That's not my experience. And again, like this is an issue I feel very strongly about, but in addition to the combat, in addition to the physical labor that goes into the military, in addition to the impact it has on the family, if you choose to get married

and get shipped around the U.S., I mean, it's a really serious sacrifice. The other part is that we don't transition people out of the military very effectively. So we don't offer career counseling in a way that people can really say, this is what I did in the military. This is what it looks like in the civilian world. It's a system that we both depend on and are willing to send other people to go fight. But when people are here domestically, we don't think about them. I wonder if a lot of the problems of wokeness and communism and you know far-left ideology could just be solved by exposing young people to the realities of life i you know when i see these videos and they're like we should have free free education and free health care i'm like this person's never had a job

when they're like oh you know you know there's more empty houses than homeless people we could put we could house and feed every homeless person i'm like this person's never worked with the homeless and they've never owned a house yeah so how, you know, let's expose young people to the realities of life and then have them be like, oh, I was wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And I think there are young people who grew up

and, you know, the reality is it's typically children, teenagers that are growing up in more impoverished, more blue collar areas who have to see what their parents are going through. They're living in a circumstance where they are exposed earlier. It's the and this is not to be mean to them, but it's it's the upper middle class to wealthy teenagers in America who are in super progressive schools, especially super progressive private

schools who then go on to say, I know better than everyone else on the face of the earth because I know who's oppressed and I know what the world colonizer means that I support that group. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's very out of touch, but it's not true universally. It's just, it's true in places with influence. I'm a living example of that. You know, I grew up in a blue collar family. I grew up in, uh, you know, Toledo, Ohio in the, one of the worst, the worst neighborhood in my district. And, uh, you know, my dad worked at, uh, Toledo Jeep, built cars for a living. And,

um, you know, I didn't have a choice when I got out of high school. And to your point, if I would have known more about college, I would have started college earlier. And nobody was there to teach me. I'm the first grandkid to ever graduate from college. Oh, I hate college. College is a scam. Oh, it is.

I'm with Randy Marsh on this one. I just watched South Park Pandaverse. We watched it earlier today. I love it when they're like, college is a scam, and they try to fire a catapult into it. I recommend South Park the Pandaverse.

It's really good. It's not just about wokeness. It's about the failures of the economy and they roast communists so, so well. Anyway. It's the color revolution, man.

But back to what I was saying with being blue collar, right? Not having a choice when I got out of the, uh, you know, out of high school, what path was I going to take? And I had a very strict, really strict father and military just became clear as my only choice and absolutely loved the country. I've always been patriotic and, you know, it seemed like this was my path. At least four years, I could start off somewhere. And, um, you know, it seemed like this was my path. At least four years, I could start off somewhere. And, you know, growing up, watching my dad work 12, 16 hour shifts every day, coming home, couldn't coach the baseball team, you know, things like that. You know, it really had an impact on me. So, you know, after the military, you know, my dad and I couldn't sit in the same room and not agree that these walls are gray.

You know, but after the service coming home, I had a proud dad, you know, became really good friends and, you know, the military, you know, changed my life. But to your point, Tim, if I would have known about certain things at an earlier age, I would have made different life decisions, but. Yep. I think college has become a lot more of a scam since the internet, because before it was a good place to go congregate with geniuses and learn about data. But now it's so obsolete in my opinion. Maybe for certain things it's worth going. When it became a money machine.

Yeah. That's what I think. You know, the argument I often would hear from people back in the day about college is it's where you go to congregate with other like-minded individuals and work on ideas. And I'm like, but I've been doing that my whole life. Yeah. And then you look at, without naming any of these individuals there are certain uh people would call them prodigies you know young people who were in certain certain fields succeeding at early ages but the reality was these people would go out where they were online when they

were like 12 or 13 and they were in physics forums talking with physicists and then people were like wait a minute this kid's 15 the person who was helping us theorize these things is a kid. And they're like, oh, he's a prodigy. It's like, no, he was just in this space and exposed to it and contributed. The guy who built and developed minds.com, the company that I co-founded with Bill Ottman's name is Mark Harding. He's the CTO. And he was 17 when he started building it.

But he just learned it all online. You just look, copy, paste, read the data. This means that, this means that. I think universities made sense when they were about getting people in places to discuss ideas and advance academic knowledge. That was great. But right now, college is actually

just an extension of high school, right? I mean, it's unusual. It's the American university system where you're having assignments to turn in every week or stuff like that. Like that was not how these institutions were founded. You're supposed to come up

with like a thesis that you work on for four years and that's all you do. And now we have general education classes and this and the other. And it's ultimately all to make money with especially government-backed

student loans that they still issue even though we know it's setting up millions of students every year for complete financial ruin. And so ultimately it's marketing this idea that you will get a better job, you'll have something else because of the degree, but the degree doesn't actually make you a better thinker. It just tells you that you can comply with the rules set out for you, which I don't personally think is a value that I want to instill in children. You know,

past a certain age you want young children to learn obedience and discipline. But when you reach maturity, you should be expanding your intellectual curiosity and pursuing your interests. And that's not what happens in the universities anymore. So the South Park Pandiverse episode that everyone's been talking about, it's marketed as the characters are replaced by diverse women. So Cartman is a black woman now. But there's an A story and a B story.

And the B story is that no one knows how to do anything. And so Randy Marsh, Stan's dad, the stove breaks. And he's like, I'm going to show you kids how to fix the stove, the stove door. So he calls the handyman. And then the handyman's like, well, I'm going to have to come back later. You know, the screws are stripped. And he's like, wait, I'll pay you more money to stay and fix it now. And he goes, someone already paid me more money to go fix theirs now so what happens is all

the all the handymen end up becoming billionaires and then when none of the regular people can get their light bulbs fixed or their power outlets fixed or anything fixed they start blaming the billionaires because the handymen are all billionaires and then they start holding up we are the 99 signs they're saying capitalism has failed they're like all these billionaires are withholding their access to this work and we can't get anything fixed now it's their fault capitalism's failed us and i'm just like it's really really funny because it exemplifies so much of what the left complains about especially young people they're just like if they can't have it right away it's the rich person's fault yeah it also highlights the

value of artisanry and like before you were lucky to find someone that knew how to forge a steel sword you had to spend time with that person now we're in this we're in a point in history where it's all available if you want to become a plumber you can figure it out but if all this power goes out you're not gonna you're gonna have to find a plumber to learn or just trial and error maybe books if you have access to them if you're lucky and maybe you had one and there's still a library standing well so that that was a funny part of the show is that they basically spoiler alerts i guess they're just like the real the real problem was college randy's like if i didn't spend eight years getting a phd in geology i'd not actually fix things and do work and then i'd be rich and so they go and start protesting the colleges. It's good. It's really good. Well, I'm like, what do you want out of life, right? If you

want to make a certain amount of money so you can have a career you like and then also pursue your interests and, you know, start new businesses or travel or whatever else, going to college doesn't actually make sense. You're going to massive amount of debts. You don't have the guarantee of job. You should look at trades. You should look at all kinds of other things where it takes less initial investment. You're able to, if you have to take it alone, pay it off much faster. And then also you have the option

to work in a variety of settings. This is the thing about, you know, and I got my bachelor's in English. I feel comfortable saying this. Who knows what I was going to do with that? What does that even mean? Like what's a bachelor's in English? Well, the bachelor's degree is just the like four-year degree.

For English, it's English literature. so i can tell you a lot about poetry i can write some interesting essays my second one i have two degrees the second one was in communication studies and so you took basic classes in communication theory some like public relations stuff it worked out it's fine open a poetry store do you think it would do i'm slam poet that was the thing when i reached the end of my four-year degree they were like would you like to work for Teach for America? And I was like, I don't want to be a teacher. She's a highly articulate communicator, though.

Absolutely. I already knew how to talk beforehand, right? I could have spent four years reading the news, doing something else. I'm grateful for college. I had a good experience because I liked being in class. I liked learning. But do I think it's worth the investment? No. See, I reject this, right?

This is one of the arguments I've heard a lot from people when they're like, I think college was good for me. And I'm like, you don't know if it was good for you because you don't know what you would have done if you didn't do it. And to be honest, the things that I tell people about college is that I was really grateful to go to a different environment. I would call it in Texas. It's more Bible bell. I was around people, very different people socially. And that was interesting. That had a profoundly positive impact on my life. But it's not to say that college is the reason I am where I am today. It's just something I did for a while. I'd argue it holds you back. And this is what I would say to a lot of people I knew in

their mid-20s or whatever. They're like, I went to college and I'm doing all right. And I'm like, look, man, I'm not trying to be a dick to you, but you're a shift supervisor at a Starbucks making $15 an hour and you're 25 okay there are people who have started their own businesses by the time they were 22 i know people who became managers of fast food restaurants by the time they were 23 and they're making you know 40 000 a year so i'm not trying to be it you know it's like you don't want to be a dick to someone who's like i think i'm doing all right because you want to cheer them on but it's like look man we can't keep encouraging people to stunt their lives

by going to college instead of learning how to actually work in ways that can benefit their fellow man. For sure, especially since it's not the only option. And that's the thing that I think American high schools get wrong,

which is that they use the statistics of how many people matriculate to college to say that we are a really good high school. But that's a bad statistic. You might as well say, our graduating class is entering multi-million dollars worth of debt. Do you think we are a good high school? That would be a more accurate way of representing what they think students can accomplish. It's making me think of a question for you, JR, about knowing how valuable trades

are and the ability to build. You were project management for energy companies, or at least one in particular. What company? First Energy. For First Energy, you develop, you're saying a campus at one point, or you've designed what made you or what made you decide to pivot away from that into politics well it kind of goes back to you know where i started so i started in the union at the power plants and um the barrier to management for me was a degree it was a prerequisite in the in the power industry so ended up finishing my master's degree i you know i was a really hard worker and I caught the attention of the site vice president when Davis Bessie Nuclear Power Plant in Ohio had the reactor head incident. And I just was a hard worker. And a lot of it comes from what Tim's

saying, right? You apply your hard work ethic, but then you supplement that with the knowledge that you gain from college. I went to college late in life. I didn't go right after high school. That was the service. So, you know, the pivot for me though, to politics was COVID. I was traveling the country 200 some days a year. I was working at different nuclear reactors across the country and COVID had me working out of a home office and I became politically active because of Donald Trump. My dad was a lifelong Democrat and he was a huge Donald Trump fan and he talked me into, you know, paying more attention to Trump. And I did. And the long story short is in 2020, a veterans group and I that I support, I painted the Trump 2020 logo on my big, big yard and on Lake Erie and it went viral. I was on Fox and Friends and then I got a call from president Trump and it just, it just grew from there. And, um, I ended up developing a decent Twitter following for a guy from Northwest Ohio. And, uh, when I watched what happened during the 2020

election and I watched what was going on in my district, you know, 40 year democratic incumbent doing nothing for us. I decided that I was going to use the political capital that I gained and just shake some trees. It was a Democratic plus 12 district. I had no chance in hell to win. But luckily, right before the primary election, they redistricted. The district flipped to a Republican plus 2.9. And here I am, the candidate. I beat two elected officials, state elected officials, absolutely demolished them. And I was on my way to running the general election. So the pivot for me was just becoming aware of what was going on in American politics and knowing that I grew up in poverty. I grew up in a struggle.

And what I was seeing happening by these oligarchs and these wealthy folks,, wealthy folks. It just didn't make sense. Let's pull up this story. We have this poll from Quinnipiac. This one's got people all hot and bothered. 2024 presidential race stays static in the face of major events. Quinnipiac University National Poll finds RFK Jr. receives 22% as independent candidate in three-way race. Now, the interesting thing here is that with the independent candidate, they say that Joe

Biden wins. They say, well, let me just pull up the actual Quinnipiac here from FiveThirtyEight. They say, actually, it looks like if they include Cornel West, but Joe Biden gets 39%, Trump gets 36, and Kennedy gets 22. Now, a lot of people are responding, especially Trump supporters, being like, what's 22%? Who the, are you polling? Now, Quinnipiac also has this poll, including Cornel West. I love it.

If Cornel West runs, apparently Trump still loses. Okay, wait, hold on a minute. I'm like, it's really funny when they put both of these metrics out at the same time. OK, so it's Biden, Trump, Kennedy on the ticket. Kennedy gets 22 percent. But if you add Cornel West, someone pulls one point away from Donald Trump. Are they implying Cornel West will take one percent of Trump's voters? Cornel West, he's super far left, right? I mean, I just that's ridiculous. He's according the he's super far left, right? I mean, I just, that's ridiculous. He's according to the same demographic as Trump, 100%.

Sure. That's just, it's a ridiculous idea that Trump would lose because of West and Kennedy. And when you look at all the other polls, take a look at this one. Redfield-Wilton strategies, Kennedy, 10%. Trump wins, 40 to 38. They have another poll showing it's 35 to 33

with Kennedy at 10%, probably because they might have Cornell West in there. You have this one from McLaughlin, Biden, 35, Trump, 38, Kennedy, 12 West to McLaughlin also has Trump winning all the other polls, at least abacus as a tie. So there's one poll showing Trump losing, I guess, technically it's a quid pro que as two and then abacus showing a tie and the other polls we've got uh one two i believe three four uh four other polls showing trump wins with kennedy on the on the ballot i i don't know for sure but i'm i'm definitely leaning towards i do not see trump voters leaving i'm talking about i'm talking about maga i'm talking about moderate independent types i don't see them

being like oh oh, vote for Kennedy instead of Trump. Some maybe, but it's mostly going to be Democrats who think Biden can't win and that Biden is horrible. He's corrupt. He's a warmonger and they're going to vote for, for, for Kennedy. Yeah, I agree. I think, I think Biden's doing all the work for him. So, you know, all the work for these other candidates right now in my district in ohio it's it's highly independent and you know i i see a huge swing for um voters driving towards trump just because of what he's standing for and and the fact that he's getting attacked so terribly and they're they're seeing the reality of politics right now i heard a biden speech from i guess four years ago and man he sounded clear like a normal guy and now when you listen to him it is freakish

he is just tired it's exponential the you know it's like the the decline accelerates the older you get so it's a curve straight straight down so concerned i'm torn because i'd like to meet him and help us help his brain a little bit because he is our commander but you can't help his brain just listen to him like let him kind of wake himself up a little bit well he is our commander. But you can't help his brain. Just listen to him. Let him kind of wake himself up a little bit. Well, and it's degenerative, right? I mean, that's the sad thing about dementia illnesses, right? Like any kind of elderly atrophying, it's not reversible. It's not coming back.

You can't. I've seen THC consume amyloid plaque, which is the cause of Alzheimer's in a microscope. I'd have to continue to look for more data to back that up. I believe I've seen that. Also, I hear psilocybin helps people in older microscope. I'd have to continue to look for more data to back that up. But I think, believe I've seen that. Also, I hear psilocybin helps people in older age. There might be in the future, but right now we have very little, if any way at all, to slow or stop these progressive degenerative diseases. And I think that's sad. Stem cells, right to the brain. I mean, maybe there's something and maybe if we're testing them, you know, experimental

treatments, you know, giving us an option in the VA maybe you know biden can get have a chance to try this out but realistically in the next year he is not going to suddenly improve considering we've seen a consistent decline in the last so if he walked into a chamber and it would close and he came out and he looked like 38 would you vote for him if he was healthy like a 30 year old democrat i mean i he's still evil you know like now he's young evil he would look 38 and I still need him to close the border, which he won't do. He wasn't ever, you know what I mean? Can you get all that Biden money back, though, from the gap? Yeah, what's the story now?

$40,000 in laundered payments. Oh, what's that? Yeah, there's like, so there was a $200,000 payment from his brother. Now, apparently, there's a report about $40,000 paid directly to Joe Biden, which appears to be laundered from China. Man, I'm glad you brought up the border. It's just, I probably, you guys talk about it a lot. I hope, hopefully it gets talked about a lot.

Are they building it up right now? Because it's like, yo, if we're really gonna about to spark a war in the Middle East or like jump into the fire over there, we better have closed borders. Yeah. I mean, at this point- That would make sense, yes.

If you were in a dangerous neighborhood, I've said this a hundred times on the show, but if you were in a dangerous neighborhood, you would lock your own front door and instead we're like, no, it's fine. Let's open all of the windows. Let's just pretend like everything is cool. But it's not just that. If you're going to throw a flaming bag of feces at your neighbor's house,

you're going to also lock your doors because your neighbor is going to get mad at you now i'm not i guess i can technically say the us is basically doing this because we shouldn't be involved in this stuff anyway but the us getting involved in all of these conflicts and leaving the back door open yeah and the front door with canada like i know there are allies but that doesn't mean canadian or um that doesn't mean like chinese tanks can't just roll through central canada into like there's no barrier dude no there was a there was a story about a bunch of like 20 year olds and they just drove down the border and then just turned into the united states i think they got in trouble the pacific northwest yeah

because there's no barriers there no no you know there's just like it's like the trees are cut and they have drones patrol sometimes you go to the southern border and it's like some some areas you know there's nothing but there's a lot of bollard fencing and then there's patrols that go up and down and you've got the militias down there yeah didn't we have the chinese military was caught practicing some drill or performing military drills in canada last year if i'm not mistaken i don't think they were caught i think that was like a joint effort between Canada and China. Yeah. It seems like the Chinese don't want any military conflict with the U.S.

They had Gavin Newsom over there to talk to Xi. President, I was going to call him Emperor Xi. President Xi. But, you know. And they were like, we're going to do anything we can to preserve peace between us. I wouldn't put it past him to say that and then declare an invasion. Because that's like stuff Hitler would have done. I saw a video of a guy in China eating and I think it was a pizza hut and they can stuff the crust with hot dogs.

And when I saw that, I was just like, we're doomed. You know, you know, and I'm and I'm I would I wouldn't say I would say that's that's 75 percent a joke. The reality is they are competing with us in a lot of ways that we should be the best at. And I don't literally mean putting hot dogs and pizza. It's just that we're giving up our manufacturing. Only now in the past several years seem to have realized that we've given up the industry and manufacturing we need to maintain an economy. And now you're seeing China's they're cranking away. They're burning coal, baby.

They're just coal, baby. They're just smogging it up. And by the way, I'm going to interview James Tour at Rice University's leading graphene scientist on Earth. And they're working on flash jewel graphene where they hit carbon trash with lasers and can produce this black powder, this stuff. This is the 21st century building material that we'll need to revolutionize our country with. I don't know, though. One of them, probably. Maybe. It's just like the graphene story came out 20 years ago it was like graphene the

wonder material 20 years ago and so we got some cool stuff from it but and i wonder i think it's really going to come down to the basics are we producing steel right are we are we well i think you can use you can put this stuff in with like carbonized steel if you're going to make it and make it stronger and lighter and also with um with car with coal like you were saying we burn coal you can upscale coal into graphene and burn it cleaner so there are some i'm very excited it's going to be uh friday afternoon so keep in touch on my twitter and you can watch it there so there let's re-industrialize go for it what are you were you going to say? Oh, I was just saying, I mean, I want to believe in science and innovation. I really do. But I get sort of frustrated with it when ultimately, you know, if graphene is the future,

maybe it is. I know nothing about it. But is America going to do something about it or is it going to be China, right? Like what country is actually most likely to be ahead in terms of manufacturing these things? And I would assume it's the country where we put all of the manufacturing. And so in some ways, we've hamstringed our own ability to embrace innovation by shipping all of these things overseas. I mean, even if someone in a lab at a university in America comes up with something, ultimately the technology is getting shipped

out of the country to develop, in my cynical opinion. I would counter that those would become obsolete factories over there now. We'll start building new ones that focus on flash jewel creation. If we build them here, I'm okay with it. I just don't know that we will. Well, that's what we're trying to do in Arizona and places like that where we could actually have these factories. So if that actually happens and a lot of the reasons

for taking Taiwan or protecting Taiwan become secondary to us actually having factories back in the United States. That's not all manufacturing, though. China can still out-man out manufacture us with like raw products but when it comes to like technical manufacturing yeah that's gonna be huge in the next 20 years biggest place we're handicapped in comparison with china is in in regulatory framework i mean if you look at you know how our government hyper regulates not only the uh the the industrial side of manufacturing but then the energy side right and i mean that's you know my my kind of my wheelhouse right and that's why we have you know

the the stifling of small modular reactors and you know we have companies that american innovators that are having to take their technology to canada and go through the regulatory board they're hoping that the nrc here the nuclear regulatory commission here will finally open up the gates and allow them to uh build smrs here and we're we're losing out on on yeah every in every smr small modular reactor how does that work um it's essentially you know it's it's a mini reactor that is you know mechanically small modular reactor melting down you can you can power a small city with a reactor the size of this room. You need no operators. And it can't melt down?

Right, it cannot melt down. What's the fuel source? Still uranium, but it's a passive technology. I mean, it doesn't rely on operators. The way it's designed, I'm no physicist or nuclear engineer, but the way I understand it is the recirculation system, the cooling system, they're all passive and reliant on condensation and the systems working in cohesion with one another. So there's no operator manipulation. What about thorium salt?

We've heard a lot about that. I think thorium salt's another awesome opportunity for us that we're just, I mean, there's reactors out there that, I mean, there's ways to convert our retired coal plants into thorium salt reactors. Really? Yeah, there's America. I used to work for a guy that invented that. Name is Dr. Singh. And he introduced it to our federal government, Department of Energy. They don't like it.

Why aren't we doing these? Why are we not doing it? Because the money is not going in the right pockets. It's because of Greta Thunberg, isn't it? That son of a bitch. She's hungry for the cash. Greta! In your experience,

how has the American public's opinion shifted on nuclear? Because I feel like that's ultimately, if there were people calling for it, eventually someone would do it, right? I mean, it the problem is i mean there is a there is a specific paradigm around nuclear power people drive by cooling towers and they think that's the reactor and yeah a lot of it has to do with the nuclear power plants not having to market over the years they've been in they've been in um you know regulated environments where they know they're going to charge a certain amount per megawatt

and they're going to get paid because people have to turn their lights on. But then when you have different forms of energy that are subsidized by the federal government that undercut the market then nuclear becomes I blame the Simpsons. So this is actually true. Simpsons is considered to be a

factor, maybe not the biggest, in why there is resistance to nuclear energy factor maybe not the biggest in why there's resistance to nuclear energy because people grew up watching this joke of springfield of mutated fish three-eyed fish three-eyed fish blinky and meltdowns i think are a theme of a dozen episodes at least and so people are consuming media and they're believing these things are based on reality they say well every joke has its truth and it's like no look there's not going to be a nuclear plant so close to you like this it's not going to blow up you're not going to die there are less deaths from nuclear power than from coal and like it's it's exponential the nuclear power industry is the safest industry one of the safest industries

in the country yeah absolutely what's the biggest misconception about radiation damage like what i think what happened is uh when chernobyl melted down it just what what all the the spent nuclear corium or whatever was just there so it was constantly irradiating the environment into the air and then you had the meltdown which created the elephant's foot and then had they been able to extract the corium then would it have no longer been irradiating and it'd go back to normal i mean if you remove the source yeah then you would have no no radiation so i have a theory problem with chernobyl was that when it exploded it sprayed radioactive particulates everywhere which blanketed down over the region and when when the

west was like hey russia what's going on they're like nothing's happening everything's fine and they're like uh now we're getting slammed by radiation like reactive particles so we know something happened i was thinking about corium meltdowns. Corium's like the stuff in the middle that when it gets really hot, and it goes through cement and it'll just keep melting down. If you pour gold into it, that it will act as a superconductor and allow the corium to cool itself off and release the heat, so then it'll harden, and then you could extract it. I'm not sure that gamma rays wouldn't pass through that.

I mean, if it could be x-rayed, then you could still have a fission product, I would assume. I mean, the only real shielding mechanism that you're going to have from radiation of that source is going to be water or lead or high-density concrete. It wouldn't be to shield it. It would just be more to extract it so it gets out of its liquid form. Even then, you have to worry about the dose exposure that you're going to get as a human. You can only get so much before your internal organs are going to be liquid. You have to send a robot in to do it. I think the biggest misconception based on my personal experience is that you're dealing

with gamma wave radiation instead of alpha and beta particles. Right. So this is what I learned when I went to Fukushima. They give me these, they give you this cloth suit to put on. And I was like, is this a joke? And they were like, this is what you have to wear. Why? They're not worried about you getting bombarded by waves that go through everything they're worried about the particles landing on your skin

which are radioactive and then you eating them or getting them in your lungs yep so that's internal source yeah so so what what you're supposed you wear these these cloth suits and then when you're when you're leaving you take them off very carefully they bond a bunch them up and throw them in the garbage. We mentioned thorium salt earlier. Can you really quickly, generally explain what that is, a thorium salt reactor? Oh, that's kind of out of my wheelhouse,

but I know that the thorium salt is essentially heated up probably through the super steam process, and then that kind of creates like a resonating heat source, which then continues to create the super steam, which turns the turbine, right? Isn't that really funny? That's all it is. Yeah.

We pressurize a tube so that it pushes steam, which spins. It's kind of beautifully simple. I sort of like that, you know? One other question. It's a big magnet spin, creates an optical current. There you go.

So my other question on nuclear is what about fusion? And I know these get conflated because they're not even remotely the same process, but they're both called nuclear power, which is kind of weird. Maybe. So, but what do you think about fusion? Is that even anything you've ever studied? No. I mean, you know, in my opinion, the future, again, it goes back to the standard way of

nuclear fission, right? Just having smaller, more manageable, less scary to the public reactors, things that, you know, take out the human element, because that's really where you've seen these meltdowns, or where you've seen these close calls, what the general public hasn't been communicated to is like, there was always a safety actuation system that stopped the general public from being harmed. There's, you know, what they call defense in depth, there's always like three to four different layers of defense you know with these nuclear power plants at least in the united states right europe has totally different standards but here in the us

you had davis bessie you had three mile island i mean we were pretty far away from actually having a meltdown but you know when it it's uh communicated to the public it's all about you know scaring them have you heard of those nuclear diamond batteries where they have like spent nuclear fuel and they put it inside of like a diamond and it just gives you a low pulse of energy yeah yeah can you explain that i don't know i've heard of them but i don't know much i don't know give you like 10 000 years of electricity really what like a phone um yeah things like that really really low charge and then i guess you could have a lot of them to create a greater charge but it's actually nuclear waste inside of a diamond inside of like carbon that's what we're missing out on is

this recycling of spent nuclear fuel when this nuclear fuel comes out of the reactor it's only using five to seven percent of its energy potential and we have like 86 000 or you know kilograms or whatever of metric tons of spent nuclear fuel, you know, sitting in the United States that we're not using. And you have countries like Europe that are reprocessing and they're reusing their spent nuclear fuel. We're throwing it in canisters and leaving it at the nuclear reactors across the country. And that's a multi-billion dollar industry that we could be opening and creating high paying jobs, high paying technical jobs for a bunch of people. And we're not doing it. And people don't do it because there's a fear of nuclear.

Absolutely. Maybe not after after tonight we're changing hearts and minds over here not to nuclear diamonds we just need to bring back that guy from the biden administration the like non-binary guy who kept stealing luggage maybe he can save the day he'd wear a nuclear diamond ring and become a superhero from someone's others let's uh let's jump to this story we got a couple political uh bits to jump on we have the post-monial trump blasts attempt to illegally remove his name from ballot in colorado on phony insurrection claims and ladies and gentlemen we have received a a spot in the books of history at the trial for donald trump over whether or not he should be allowed on the ballot

they played this clip which i will play for you now of a show you've probably seen with Kash Patel. Here we go. I have to wonder, Kash, if everything I said before about people being too stupid, it's in fact that the leadership is as stupid. Of course. The leadership is, no, no, the leadership is evil. There's a distinction. I've worked with all of these people. They are pure evil the only thing the pelosi's

and the schumer's and the and the like care about in the world is being glorified in the media that's it what's my next headline what's my next payday how do i scam the stock market with my husband how do i come out on top and be speaker of the house for more than basically a decade that is the tract that people come in behind them on and saying i want to be the next turn i want to be the next him they are evil evil. That's the problem. The people that follow them? Yes, stupid. Yep, stupid.

And they're evil. So that was played, that clip. It's funny because as soon as Cash said they're evil, I laughed with myself laughing in the clip in the same way. I thought it was hilarious. And shout out to Phil Labonte for his cameo in the Trump trial.

This is the current state of American politics. We have this tweet here from Dean Phillips. He says, in one graph, this is why I state of american politics we have this uh this tweet here from dean phillips he says in one graph this is why i'm running for president we could be sleepwalking towards disaster we need an open primary and i hope other qualified democrats still jump in here it is from bloomberg news morning consult trump is leading in five of seven swing states and michigan's a tie so you've got in um pennsylvania wisconsin north carolina arizona and georgia trump is ahead in michigan it's tied in nevada biden is leading in all all together trump is up by four points so why are they trying to remove trump from the

ballot in colorado i think colorado isn't one of these states but they want to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado? I think Colorado isn't one of these states, but they want to make sure that the popular vote count is as low as possible for Donald Trump and they want to cripple him. They want to exhaust his resources and force him into legal battles. The problem, however, is this is basically giving Trump a 24-7 rally. I like, I get it. They're trying to stop him by any means necessary, but it's like a Chinese finger trap problem. They keep saying, we're going to put him in court. And then, OK, now the media has got a camera in Trump's face again, letting him say whatever

he wants. And it makes me think the people in Colorado whose tax dollars are being spent on this trial, right? Do they look at this and say, yes, this is our biggest priority? If you had told me they were doing something similar in like maybe 2016, right, when people were really, 2020, when people were really orange man bad, really freaking out about Trump, maybe I would have said, oh yeah, the average Coloradan feels like this is the most important use. But I don't feel that way, especially post-COVID. And especially since, you know, Denver in particular has been really hard hit by illegal immigration. There are a lot of issues

that I'm sure people in Colorado would rather see their government focusing on. And instead, this is what they're being told their government's number one, the legal apparatus of their government's number one priority is right now. That would seem just as satisfactory for me. I don't know how you feel about it. No, I agree. And I think what the American people are seeing is just a spending spree by the Biden administration. To your point, you know, the average everyday American now is paying a lot more attention to what's going on politically. And I think Trump, once again, resonates with the common American and, you know, the two tier justice system,

the guy's been on trial since 2016. And, you know, you can only run it so many times without people paying some attention. And the more they, you know, the more they see it, the more drawn in they are and i i just think trump has put on a master class on how to deal with the media he's put on a master class on how to deal with these court systems and he's very transparent and he speaks his mind and i think people appreciate i know i do he's definitely weathered this uh i would say there's great words to describe it but very impress, I would say his mind is still very clear. I can hear the fatigue, but I mean, God, anyone going through this would be fatigued.

I'm just at the Elmo meme phase in this one. You know, the Elmo with fire rising up behind him. That's where I'm at with this. And I'm like Halloween costume next year. At this point, I really don't care what trump says or does i just despise these people so much that i just want trump to go in and do whatever he wants because it would be the most irritating thing in the world for them and i know that's how people felt in 2016 and 2020 i didn't feel that way in 2016 i was like it's all stupid but there are a lot of people who are looking at

donald trump as this raging bull and they were laughing like i hope this guy gets to do it everyone i'm at the point where i'm just like i am so fed up with these trials with these lies the manipulation i'm just like can we get two or three trumps can we get the whole trump family can we get where is baron where is the idea we're constantly trying to figure out who the vp is going to be trump trump trump trump just do it i don't care which one it is can you run with your son why not can your son be your vice president

any one of them any one of them as long as they're not from the same state Trump Trump but I don't think they are Laura Trump he's the only one in

yeah well she was North Carolina I'd heard rumors that Lara Laura Trump might seriously consider running in North Carolina because that's where she's from

she should be VP Trump Trump that'd be so interesting just more Trumps I just want I've just these awful people who exploit the system

to enrich themselves through the stock market and all this awful garbage. And then we're watching them lie, cheat, and steal because the American people are finally like, guys, you ripped us off

for long enough. All we're doing now is saying Trump's going to build some border security and we're going to bring manufacturing back. None of these wars. And y'all couldn't even have it. Y'all got away with ripping us off for generations, stealing these ridiculous stock trading deals. They know what's going on.

They're passing the laws. They're introducing them. They are lying, cheating and stealing. And all we ask is that some dude gets in for eight little old years and get some border security and bring some manufacturing back. And you said F you to all of us. And I'm just like at this point, I just hope it's Trump 2024, 28, 32, 36, etc. Just just never ending. What is it? I'm just I'm just so done. Have you seen the Mel Gibson meme where it's like me voting for Trump in 2016 is just Mel Gibson smiling and me voting for, no, in 2020 and then me voting for Trump in 24 and it's

got, you know, Mel Gibson with the brave heart. That's how the American people feel, man. What is it about Vivek? Do you guys, how do you feel about Vivek? I love him. I do too. I love him. Do you think he, like, do you throw your support behind him or would you pick Trump?

Do you have a preference? My loyalties to Trump, I think he deserves another four years for all of the reasons we just said. But Vivek, I met him a few years back when he wasn't running for politics. He spoke at a Lincoln Day dinner locally and took a couple minutes of time to talk to me. And he's a guy from Ohio. I think he's the young, articulate, strong, American dream type of guy that we need. He could be VP. Great. He said he wouldn't take it.

He said he wouldn't, but he's probably the best person right now, realistically, in terms of positioning. It is tough to figure out who really would be the best vp but vivek outside of him saying he doesn't want it probably is best positioned for it i know i know his team is is is that that's their focus right yeah i mean i talked i talked to his team they're great people right but i mean you know the the long game for them they're they're supporting trump i mean vivek is supporting trump right he's never bashed him but vivek's also 38 yeah and i think the reality he knows he's not going to defeat trump right and i think vivek's uh intention was to kneecap ron desantis in the debates and he did a hell of a job doing it well ron did it to himself i'm gonna say ron i wanted to love you dude you went

on patrick bett david show where have you been come on man just relax and sit down and talk to us it's easy. Don't worry. He's the governor of Florida in Florida. Patrick, but David's in Miami. It was like, I'm not going to, I'll never do this. Right. Jenkier came on the culture war podcast. I said, thank you.

I know you host your own show. Taking time off your show to do my show is a favor to me. I get it. Ron DeSantis is in Florida. It's easy for him to do PBD. Yeah. But you put in what would come to fly out here. You put in like eight tops, 18 hours of work. You work you're gonna get 700 000 hours of product out of it from watch i got i gotta be honest i gotta be honest about this you i patrick bet david is much more brutal than i am

he doesn't he like i i give people leeway and some people argue i should not yeah you know a lot of people were saying that when janky came on show, I should have just gone at him way heavier. And they were like, why didn't it pop off? And I was like, I was trying to prevent it from getting into that heated debate. And there were a few points where we talked about George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery where Cenk got really heated

and I pulled away from it trying to keep things down. Patrick Bette David, the way he went after Anthony Weiner, I mean, Ron had to know that PBD is not going to let him walk away from the high heel scandal in this way. I gotta be honest. If Ron came here, I would not drag

him. I would not have done that. You wouldn't have had a box of Ferragamo shoes. It was funny. It's a clip. Obviously, his team had planned it. Even the way he's phrasing the, like, I'm sure you've heard about this thing, like, you know, this scandal about your shoes or whatever like pat fack davis knew what he was doing he knew he was going to do it a second you know he got it it's a different style

of show it's not the way you operate no one who comes on the show will ever be ambushed like that and i mean there's no disrespect to pbd i think it was masterfully done and i he's pointing out great criticism but that's just not how we we do things I'm a big fan of the work that he does. I think he's a genius. But it's funny to me seeing that. I'm like, the DeSantis people are banned from coming on this show. By their own team.

Right, right. Yeah, we want them on. We want DeSantis and his people to come on, but they've refused. They've told their staff they're not allowed. And then he decided to go on Valuetainment instead where it's like, yo, that's the frying pan man that's like yeah it's an example of the

poor team that Ron DeSantis was around I mean he's in an echo chamber right I've met Ron DeSantis before I liked him before the election man I was just thinking like this guy you know if he would have done what Reagan you know did to Barry Goldwater right he could have he could have passed the torch or not pass the torch but he could have had the

torch passed to him on the back end, right? And he didn't do that. And I think everything about his campaign is a shining example of the consultant class ruining politics. The guy has been in an echo chamber his entire campaign. You can see when he steps out because when he steps out, that's when he's out of

his own and he makes a lot of mistakes. But man, dude, only if, right? I mean, he would have been the perfect guy in 2028, now it's too late no you know what i really do think i know i've said it several times in the past couple weeks but i think the the donors went to run and convinced him to run to make sure he would not be vp a trump de santis ticket is unbeatable and that's what everyone had been saying the year before that you know i've talked about i'll talk you know talk, I, you know, I'm talking to a guy I'm hanging out at MGM national Harbor. And there's a guy, he's like, I hate Trump. Oh, but I can't vote for Biden. And I'm like, what about DeSantis? Like, oh yeah, I'd vote for DeSantis for sure. And then I say, what if it's

Trump DeSantis, Trump president tends VP. And he goes, yeah, I'd vote for it. He's like with DeSantis there, I think I could do do it and i think the establishment saw the writing on the wall that ron is willing to play ball with whatever's going to get him the victory so in florida he's going along with with with core right culture war talking points and he's putting his policies forward and they're like uh-oh that means that if he teams up with trump he's going to just say yes sir to trump he's going to go along with this to try and be successful and build and build a career up so they go to ron and they say no no you should be president you should run and they're laughing at him behind the scenes they're like this guy's an idiot he's actually going to do it he thinks

he's going to go up against Trump oh I got an idea tell him to wear high heels tell him to wear high heels and then don't show him the videos and then send him to PBD on purpose this is the point Cenk Uygur comes on this show. I basically let him speak. We have a little bit of disagreements and arguments, but there's a lot of stuff I could have brought up that we didn't bring up. Because I'm like, I'm trying to actually talk about solutions and keep things tame and calm.

Patrick, but David, he's much more direct. He's a lot stronger on these things than I am with his point of view. Anybody who knows about his past interviews knows he's not going to let you walk on this one he's not going to give you the same leeway that that i might i think they sabotage him on purpose they they brought him to a show and gave and and gave value payment a layup to put a pair of boots on a table oh come on here we are friends with some of the people who worked

for desantis in his campaign and they they can't even come on the show and i'm like that's weird man why we talked to him we'd actually help like hey let's work through these issues that you're having and figure out ways you can improve nah they won't do it yeah i'd take the boot cut it open on air with a knife and show you yeah it's a cowboy boot and it's probably his toes aren't long enough. So it looked like it was bending, but it's still a cowboy boot. No. You think he's wearing inserts?

Because some cowboy boots just have big heels. It's a fact. On my Twitter, I posted a picture of me standing next to Ron DeSantis and a picture of me standing next to Trump and then Trump standing next to DeSantis. And in all three pictures, Ron DeSantis' height has fluctuated.

And I don't wear bo't wear and not just that boosters or there's when you watch videos of him walking he's very obviously one the way he's walking high heels and two when the foot bends you can tell that he's wearing high heels yep i someone went to him and said put the high heels on you'll look tall and everyone and they're laughing at him like i can't believe this idiot's doing it and he won't fire these people because they are sabotaging him on purpose and this now again the trump desantis ticket a year and a half ago was unbeatable absolutely they'd be trump if trump announced desantis would be the vp he'd be pulling at 52 or something honestly if desantis just bowed down and had humility right now they'd still be unbeatable If you saw him acknowledge the, I don't want to

swear on camera, but the last year of his campaign, if he acknowledged how poorly run it was, people would light up. I think that there's too much animosity right now for a Trump DeSantis ticket. And I think part of that has to do with the infrastructures they're both surrounded by, because you would need to merge their teams or one of them would have, like DeSantis would have to abandon everyone he's been working with i i don't know that that's realistically going to happen maybe it should so i don't want to force anyone into drama but why is it that there have been three people who have come on this show who have asked me why am i being attacked by dos santos's campaign and and so there are individuals who are not hyper-partisan electoral personalities that

have, they don't, individuals whose careers do not put them in the line of I'm for Trump or I'm for DeSantis. We've had people on the show who are not saying either of those things. And they're like, DeSantis' campaign started attacking me. And I'm like, yeah, they're trying to destroy his campaign. They want to make, they're going scorched earth earth they want to make sure that if in six months it clearly is trump there will not be a recovery period like ted cruz had ted cruz was lying ted and then after the primary he was a lion roar ted lie in instead of lying that's pretty good that's the recovery that's pretty good insight and and you know his sadness beard that was the time well i can speak to that too right look what uh you know when when this first all started i i wasn't uh negative on desantis at all and and i'm known to be a trump

supporter right but then you had jd vance come out and say you know leave it to around desantis poorly run team to attack their former friends right and that's exactly what they've done but but see the thing is they attacked people who were currently their friends yeah i like i've had people prominent individuals say to me i they, they like asked me like, Hey, uh, do you know what's going on? Like I'm being attacked by the Santa's people. Do you know why? And I'm like, I'm like, they're attacking everybody.

And it's just, they're just like, I don't understand. Like I've not said anything bad about them at all. Right. And I just, I think the idea is after the primary, they want to make sure that not a single trump supporter will welcome desantis back there's no explanation for why some of these personalities are prominent individuals with a lot of followers there's no explanation for why they're like i can't stand desantis you know i'm why would you attack some of these people

why do they start attacking us why did they ban their people from coming on the show if when ron loses there's a recovery period where trump can say enough fighting you know ron's a great governor and we're going to welcome him back not anymore there's not he's gonna be rosie o'donnell yeah exactly it is so toxic and the high heels thing was the nail in the coffin if there's no way trump can be like i'm going to choose backstabbing high-heel Ron with the crackhead PR team. It's not going to happen. There's a reason why they don't work for Trump anymore

and they deflected over to his team. I mean, DeSantis' crew? Oh, okay. I mean, he has some smart people on his team, but to Tim's point, they're not around anymore, though. Maybe they're just not wise. No, no, no. We'll put the numbers here.

Two potentials. DeSantis' people are geniuses, and what they're doing is intentionally destroying DeSantis, or they are the stupidest people in the world, and they don't understand they're destroying DeSantis. I think they have. Additionally, no matter how you cut it, Ron DeSantis is the dumbest politician in the country right now.

For hiring them. For not firing them. Look, look. You can hire bad people, but after the after the first screw up you have a talking to after the second screw up you start saying warning and you put out statements third screw up you say i have removed this person from my staff he's not done it especially when your platform is built on the you know the the preface that you run a tighter ship than trump right trump had all these leaks in the white house according to santas and he runs a tight ship in florida right it's just it's a it's a it's a direct uh polar it's it's polar to what

what he's campaigned on yeah i get the vibe okay what i was gonna say is i think i ron strikes me as high intelligence low wisdom because he doesn't know how to get his intellect across it's poorly managed and poorly integrated and like you got to have humility dude and this this obsession with pride of like oh they said something mean get them like, you got to have humility, dude. And this, this obsession with pride of like, oh, they said something mean, get them. Like, no, you got to like roll with it. Yeah. You said something because I'm a goofball sometimes. That's his team. Yeah.

See, I like his persona. Unfortunately, you're right. I like Ron DeSantis. I think he's done the best job of any governor in Florida. And that's why so many people move there. That's why a lot of people are defensive of him. But that is it. That is no excuse for hiring the worst people imaginable who are setting fires to everything around you and you being like, this is fine. At that point, I'm like, this guy has a very serious leadership problem,

very serious leadership. And you know what I'm gonna start doing? Sorry. I can only assume now the accomplishments of Florida are due to the legislature. And he's just going, sure, I guess. And he's bumbling around like Mr. Magoo. Because where he has direct executive authority, his campaign, he's failed miserably. When it comes to the politics of Florida, he's stamping what the Florida legislature passes. And so we give him a lot of credit for it and for standing up and making statements. Now I'm just thinking, you know, they're probably just handing him a script and he just says whatever and in florida they want to win they do but here they're trying to tank him knowing he can't beat trump and they don't want him teaming up with trump so they're sabotaging

him or they want him to stay governor of florida and they don't want him to be president so they're trying to destroy his chances i don't know that's a possibility it's not it's not a great uh any of these officers are pretty bad to have on your staff right i mean this is not what you would want to be surrounded by while running a campaign yeah i mean but the establishment to tim's point is evil and they'll you know they'll go to the farthest lengths to destroy something that they don't like well people were pointing out like ken griffin donating to desantis and the immediate assumption is the establishment is teaming up with desantis to go against trump and i'm kind of like or they just are sabotaging desantis they do not want an ascendant to trump personality they don't want an heir to the trump throne if what was everybody saying trump 2024 desantis vp

desantis 2028 not anymore they're not desantis is done i mean i don't know where he goes after this he's termed out of florida maybe he'll run for the senate so question then vp ramaswami or kennedy ramaswami ramaswami i personally want larry elder to be vp i've got a job writing on it so you know i like byron donalds to be honest yeah byron's uh he's awesome i love byron byron's excellent really cool dude stand-up guy he's endorsed my campaign by the way um but yeah byron donald is is one of the best people i But yeah, Byron Donald is one of the best people I met in DC. I agree.

Absolutely one of the best people. I mean, there's so few people, but I actually met Byron Donald when he was hanging out with Matt Gaetz. And I'm like, I'm not surprised. Like these are good dudes.

Lauren Boebert's office, we interviewed him. It was really cool. Do you think that there's any weight to the idea that Trump's going to feel obligated to pick a female VP? Oh, he better not play this game.

That's what I do not want him to play this game, but I keep hearing everywhere. No, it's definitely going to be a woman. It's definitely going to feel obligated to pick a female VP. Oh, he better not play this game. That's what I do not want him to play this game. But I keep hearing everywhere. No, it's definitely going to be a woman. It's definitely going to be a woman. I do not want that. It makes me really mad. Be sure to tell him that. Yeah.

As soon as he calls me, I'll be like, if you pick a woman, be VPV. You've lost everyone's confidence. You know, people kept asking us when we're having him on the show. And we know so many people in Trump's circle. They've all said like we can figure something out we'll talk to him he'll probably just say yes of course but we got to go to him and we just we've not coordinated it and tried to make it happen i'm not saying trump is going to give us the time of day i'm saying you know a lot of people around him are

like no no yeah we can we can work with him and and schedule something we've just not done it we should probably just finally do it and just get our like booking people to be like can we just arrange this finally because then i can say you know don just don't know no no no nicky haley like yeah i think that should let me let me ask you i think you know what i've learned in politics is things kind of uh are placated right on purpose i think maybe that was something that leaked on the back end to just test the waters for what the general public would think and what twitter would think and i think pretty quickly it got uh you know smoshed that you know he he needed to have a a female

vice president and i think he's i think he's turned the page on that i don't think vivek is the perfect candidate i think he's the current best option you know in the past i said carrie lake but you know there were several points that were made one in terms of what is best for carrie lake running for senate winning in arizona and helping fix the states we got to win at the state we got we got to win win the states um but also some other people pointed out then you have trump and trump basically carrie lake is a smart, like, no disrespect to Trump, but she is a sharper, articulate Trump. And so people have said you need a contrast to that. And Vivek, in a way, is kind of like Trump, but he's a PR guy.

He is tactful, kind of like how Carrie Lake is. But in terms of his presence, that's why i kind of feel like he's probably the better option sometimes i want it to be a vp that is not currently seeking the presidency you know i know that's pretty normal to to consider you know this how we got uh kamala harris of course but i think that pence wasn't running right pence wasn't running and again like not that pence was not that was a option pence was forced by the establishment man i mean that's that's given but i don't like it becoming too much of a manufacturing line, right? It's like, well, if you drop out early enough, I'll give you a VP.

I like the idea that there is potentially other perspectives out there that we don't hear on the national stage. I think Vivek compliments Trump in the fact that they have two totally different leadership styles. I mean, Trump's a transformational type guy, right? He sees the big picture. Vivek tends to get in the details and you know they they they um they're polar opposites in so many regards but personality wise they do have some similarities yeah they're both executors i but trump has the is the executor sure and ramaswami is the mastermind yeah they're both masterminds but ramaswami is a pure mastermind yeah i mean that's

what he said when he was here he was saying you know some personalities just can't mesh well together and i am a personality i've been an executive for so long like i have to be at the front and i think it might be a challenge to be vp under someone else it's not that he's not talented and could do amazing things it was just it's just hard for me to imagine a trump ramaswamy ticket where they're both happy i think it's he has a duty to the country i think we all do and if he's called to the position, he has to take it. Trump can persuade him. I mean, that's the beauty of the guy. You sit down with him. I get it, right? Certain personalities clash. But if it's not obvious that those two could work in cohesion,

I mean, just someone who understands leadership theory at a basic minimum can tell that these two guys can work together because they balance one another i'm just kind of thinking like who else could it be seriously i mean well that's why i like byron though that's why i don't think it'd be kennedy now kennedy to your point that's where i think there would be a personality clash because i don't think kenny's going to take the back seat and where you have a guy like byron who was also technically intelligent right with his finance background i mean there's another balance to trump so i mean you have to kind of look for that personality uh subtle differences but differences that complement i think i think byron maybe in a couple cycles would it's tough i don't see him as a vp right now byron donald is he running is he running

for he doesn't have any aspirations we should have him on the show we only interviewed him for like 15 minutes he was only on for like 10 or 15 minutes make sure larry comes with him his buddy his buddy larry his his advisor those two together are it's hilarious man i would love to talk to byron for a couple hours vivek seems like he could be vp right now but again i don't think he's the perfect candidate it's just i don't know who else there is unless it was trump trump which i don't think would be realistic as much as i jokingly say let's just get as many trumps in federal office and as possible let's just you know how old is is baron can he run for congress he's gotta be 25 not old baron trump he hasn't graduated high school yet. I mean, he's got a minute.

I'll make an exception to put more Trumps in government. Just get them all in there because it pisses off. He runs for class president. Then he will run for president. He's 17. We're going to get accused of

promoting oligarchy on the show, right? But I don't care. Trump royal family because it pisses off the machine. And then we'll figure out. It's like the Simpsons when they had the lizard problem. And so the lizard problem and so they were like they'll get dogs and then how do you do with the dogs and then like we'll get you know they increase keep

getting the animals bigger and bigger until they're finally like we'll have gorillas go and kill the animal and they're like but then they have a gorilla problem and skinner's i think it was skinner's like no that's the best part when winter, they simply freeze to death. So it's just like, we'll get all the Trumps in there. Let them just just Trump it out. Trump it out, man. And then, you know, we'll figure it out later. I thought you made a good point that Ramaswamy is not the perfect candidate because I think a lot of people might right now be looking for perfection. And if they don't see it, they're going to turn away and vote for what they think is

safe. But you're never going to find perfection. You've got to go with, you got to take risks. And to counter that though, if you look at some of the folks that are anti-Vivek that are in like MAGA, you know, in the MAGA mindset, right? They're, they're attacking Vivek because they believe he's too perfect. They think he's Obama 2.0. I mean, there's a lot of different theories on that, but at the end of the day, like it's, it's deeds, not words. Right. And if you look at what Vivek has done for his personal life, his family you know for the state he lives in his

community i mean you don't have any vivek ramaswamy employees jumping out saying this guy's a terrible leader vivek effectively said he wants to cut funding to israel now not as blunt he says he wants to get them sustainable to the point through u.s support to where we don't need to be supporting them anymore which is the intelligent way of saying like, hey, we should not be. That's bold because, you know, Nikki Haley is like she loses her mind. My objection to Ronald Suwanee, to be honest, is, you know, again, I'm very lucky to be in a position to ask him this, but he has he has a more flexible view on HB1 H1B visas than I do. I feel like I would prefer someone to take a stronger stance on border and

border security and and reducing even legal immigration into the country as well as illegal immigration. But that is not to say that he couldn't do amazing things. I am not convinced this is the cycle. I don't think he would like being VP to Trump, but he has incredible potential. I think it's better to have a deep bench of people who can do good things for the country. Even like we always talk about it, like it's just the presidency and the VP, but it's really not.

There are tons of cabinet positions. There are lots of things that we could have talented, intellectual and accomplished people step into and really benefit the American public. I get the Obama criticism. They feel like Vivek is Obama 2.0. I've thought that a couple of times. I've even said it on the show, Vivek the snake the obama criticism they they feel like vivek is obama 2.0 i've thought that a couple times i've even said it on the show vivek the snake i called him a couple times and it's like i feel that like he's in order he's willing to bend with the wind like

a reed even to the point maybe where he'll snap like obama did and then the big business takes over but that's why i like seeing him in a vp position because he'll watch it happen all around him and he won't have to be the one getting co-opted and he'll see how don like kind of came out unscathed i mean that's what he communicated to us he didn't want to be and i would someone watching he wants to be at the head of the organization and so again like maybe if you know he doesn't progress with the presidential race maybe he should run for governor of ohio maybe he should step into a leadership role on a smaller scale and then you know he's so. He has so much potential to do a lot of things. If he doesn't run this cycle, I'm sure he'll run again.

Who do the Democrats have in terms of youth? AOC? And like Max Frost. That's like the guy that I was talking about. He's like the youngest member of Congress. Gavin Newsom. Yeah, but Max Frost, you said? Yeah, I think that's his name.

Out of Florida. He's not the same level of AOC. No, not yet. Vivek, like, stepped onto the stage and hit it out of the ballpark and skyrocket in terms of just like notoriety, notability. You know, the things he was saying, the conversations he was having,

the way he was having them inspired a lot of people very, very quickly and resulted in this viral like notability. Yeah. The guys loved in Ohio. Like I said, man, I met him before he even had political aspirations. He was just coming around talking about, I mean, he was a libertarian.

You know, he said it. Some people arguing have made the claim that he wants to be a senator out of Ohio. I think he's denied that. Yeah. I mean, there's been people advocating for it, you know, because of the Senate race in Ohio right now is highly contested. So, you know, I think Vivek standing out the way he has during his presidential run has drawn a lot more attention to him. When Gavin Newsom went over to China, I got the vibe like, oh, they're running Gavin Newsom.

That's what's going to happen. So now I still think that I have a Newsom. I can't identify with Democrats at all because if I were like, this guy wants to be the president, so he went to China, and that's how I know guy wants to be the president. So he went to China and that's how I know he wants to be the president. Like, no, no, no. Toward the US, leave California

and come see industrial towns in the Midwest that were devastated by manufacturing leaving. Go to West Virginia and talk to people who are affected by the opioid crisis. Like, if you want to be president of the United States, shouldn't you talk to Americans? Why would you be like, I will go overseas. This is a great idea. I just, I can't relate to it go spank little boys

while i'm playing basketball i've never seen a governor go speak with the president of china before have you i've never seen that before it's weird huh yeah that was highly uh unorthodox novel you know the great nation of california needs representation in china i don't see biden being the nominee i don't see him being the candidate for the democrats yeah because look at the polls right now jenkuger said he's only running basically to bring awareness to the fact that biden's gonna lose and that he's like what i have to run because people don't understand biden will lose he bought the domain biden is going to lose.com oh that's hilarious like and he said

republicans should want biden in the race and i'm like i agree because yes and then um dean phillips out of minnesota launched his campaign to challenge biden after pretending he wasn't going to for a minute yeah he's to the tweet we pulled up it's it's kind of interesting that we're we have a an open democrat who's like i'm i'm i think i could maybe run a race uh i i had thought when rfk decided to run as an independent, perhaps there was pressure from the DNC being like, you have to get out of here. We can't have anyone else.

But obviously that message hasn't trickled down to the rest of the rank and file. If we have someone out of Minnesota saying, well, I might throw my hat in the ring after we've already have an independent candidate challenging essentially Biden. I know they pretend like it's both Trump and Biden. It it's really not i mean no one wants biden to run this is what's happening i was uh i didn't i wasn't here when chank was on the show uh because i was in

miami but i was thinking about progressivism that's a term that gets thrown i'm progressive think about progressivism and i'd love to talk to chank to talk to you about this directly to chank progress means to move forward so you can progress towards a cliff and then walk off the cliff. Where are you progressing? That's a big part of being progressive. What are you progressing to? And also, how are you progressing?

Are you progressing as a wild mob disorganized or are you progressing in an organized fashion? They're marching towards the cliff. And we need to, that needs to be discussed, debated and observed because that's a big part of it. You can't just say you're progressive. So you don't want to be regressive, but unless.

Well, it depends if you're about to walk off a cliff, you do want to be regressive. Or maybe you want to turn left. What's the, what's trans, what's transgressive? Transgressive. Yes, we're the transgressive quiz. Is that the right word? Transgressive. We don't want to go forward.

The forward is the cliff. We don't want to go forward. The forward is the cliff. We don't want to go backwards. That's too far. But we want to go kind of back and to the left. You know, we should go back a little bit because the left has gone nuts. But we mostly just want to turn left. Maybe degressive. Or turn right.

I want to go back and to the right. I was going to say, I will only join this movement, the transgressive movement, if we're going back and to the right. Transgressive. I'm into the transgressive movement then. But back and to the left sounds equally as bad because ultimatelygressive movement then, but back into the left sounds equally as bad because ultimately it'll be like, why are we going back? We should go forward again. And it'll just horseshoe back to where it was going. We do have the twenties in the chat for what Ian had said, because it is correct. The left seems to be progressive for the sake of progress,

but progress for the sake of progress is blind. They're just saying, just keep doing it. Keep doing it. Why not? Why not? And you're like, eventually you're like, hey, there's a naked man dancing in front of children and they're like progress. And you're like, okay, but this is not what we thought we were progressing to. Transgress. We want Star Trek and like, you know, replicators and cold fusion. And that graphene stuff.

And graphene, not naked men dancing for children. Okay. That's not progress. That's something weird. Actually, I think that's transgressive. Amen, brother. Amen, sister. That's what I meant.

No, I think progress in the relative sense, like what would Americans view as progress? It would be space travel, colonizing other planets. When you ask someone, what do you think the future looks like? These are the things they envision. They envision,

oh, people aren't hungry anymore. People aren't starving. Food replicators, spaceships. That's what they think of when they think of us advancing and progressing. What's happened is the left has hijacked progress and now they've got naked dudes dancing in front of children.

And I'm like, okay, that's like veering off the course. So we're driving, here's a better way to put it we're driving on this road and you've got a rocky cliffside to your right and a sheer cliffside straight drop to your left and they've they've turned the car to the left and we're like guys if we keep keep this angle up we're going off the edge we got to correct it and go back to the dreams of what we used to focus on. For a moment, let us congress,

meaning move together, and turn around, and then we'll go to space. That's funny. So we define where we're going. Very clearly, paint the picture, Chank,

and everyone that wants to be progressive or consider themselves, paint the picture of where you want to end up. I like this word, gress. Yes. Currently,

we should egress. Yes, we should. We. Currently we should egress. We're about to egress the super chats, but also after you explain where we're going and you, you outline it in such a vivid way that people can picture it, then explain how we're going to get there piece by piece. And you'll have a lot of people following you. Yeah. See,

the left is mostly just, we should just do what we do for whatever reason, which is the military war machine from 1913, federal reserve yeah it's the never enough party right they say you know we've accomplished this progressive goal but now we have to push it and we there there's no there's no reason why it's just continuing to push boundaries forward and forward and i think that allows people with really nefarious agendas to step in and say, I'm benefiting from this kind of, this dissolve into chaos. It's anarchy. It's anarchy disguised as progressivism in so many different ways. I mean, true progressivism, like you're explaining, I mean, is realistic. It has

reasonable goals and you know where you're going with them. I mean, it's just total destruction. That's what transgressive means, actually. It means just violate the social norms or regular norms that we're doing. So they're really, in reality, they are transgressive means actually means just violate the social norms or regular norms that we're doing so they're really in reality they are transgressive because that's the definition of the word the word they're not progressing towards anything that's meaningful and the goalposts are always moving too so trans every day transgressives are like swerving the wheel left and right as you're going i mean stop it uh oh serge has got the details yeah it's like it has to do with like breaking social boundaries or moral boundaries yeah so transgressive would be to like end like revolting against

moral and social boundaries which was literally what the progressive movement today is saying that they're doing so creating generations oh yeah trans transgressive is involving a violation of moral or social boundaries yeah exactly so that's what i was saying like they're literally are transgressive because they always tell me is that they're trying to do is like you know yeah subvert the thing so it's not it's like you're not progressive progressive is the wrong word and i don't know they're transgressive transgressive like yeah they're not progressive they're arguably aggressive unfortunately very aggressive very aggressive ian has uh just now stated every word using the using the base grass and if you have yet to ingress, do it. It's in prayer. You'll go

within yourself, feel God's energy. You should write a song that will use all these gress words. Gress on, gresser. Yes. I guess. Okay, how about we pop over to Super Chats? I'm so happy. We progress over to Super Chats? Don't be gressy. No, we

ingress? Yeah, we are all right if you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends head over to timcast.com click join us become a member because that members only uncensored show is coming up in about a half an hour you don't want to miss it because you as a member you can call into the show actually talk to us all, where we at? Believe Kajus says, always remember Biden's last action in Afghanistan was to drone strike a father and his seven kids while he was delivering water to his neighborhood.

That's great. Just good work on that one, Joey Boynton. Except before or after he issued the surrender. That was probably after. Alpha Turkey says, hey Tim, it's unfair for you to call gen z lazy for not wanting to get out of bed to work when your generation didn't have to deal with the possibility of a disney executive under your bed it's a fair point kathleen kennedy was not

under my bed that's a reference to south park by the way carmen's like mom can you check see kathleen kennedy's under my bed and then uh i don't want to spoil the rest for you no but i think um i think millennials are lazier than gen z i think it's important to say you know i i i want to make sure i have this i say this quite a bit gen z actually is i think in many ways based and millennials suck i think a lot of it is that they aren't incentivized and so there is no moment the momentum's not there. It's just, they wake up to this, like what's the point kind of thing that I didn't get in the 90s and the 80s.

I was like, I'm going to be a rock star. I'm going to be an actor. I'm going to be famous, make a bunch of money and save the world. I think a lot of millennials were trained to just wait for instructions, you know? And so now that's what happens. They're just waiting for someone to tell them

what they're supposed to be doing. And they're frustrated because they're not satisfied with that way of living. And what happens with Gen Z is they catch the beginning of the influencer age in which you have to build your own platform. So millennials were like, tell me what to do, mom and dad.

Tell me what to do, teacher. Tell me what to do, professor. And that's their whole life. And they get out of college and they're like, government, please govern me harder, daddy. Whereas Gen Z are in this period where tons of people are self-made young people are self-made millionaires and they're like i gotta i gotta hustle and i gotta make a page and

i gotta do these influencer stuff now not all that is good but i think that creates a little bit more of an entrepreneur entrepreneurial and independent spirit among gen z don't don't get me wrong there are a lot of communists in gen z i wonder if that's natural generational that you you breed generations of workers and then generations of leaders that then build businesses for the workers it reminds me of uh nature versus nurture is what it is see it reminds me of like year of the i don't remember what it's called in china i guess the zodiacs but like the year of the is it the dragon is the year that everyone wants to have a kid. There's one year where a lot of people are like, this is, this is the best thing ever.

And I was listening to some report from NPR where it's like the children who are born in this desirable year actually do perform better on tests. They do tend to have higher education, you know, things like that. These metrics. But that's because they're dragons. Well, and that's the thing. Is it because they are told constantly you're successful, you're special? Both. Or is it because people just say, oh, yes, the dragon.

That is very important. You must stand out. I think they're literally dragons. I think I'm a tiger. Personally. You think they're literally dragons? Yeah. I'm a monkey.

You're the monkey. I think I'm a tiger. Nice. I don't know what I am. That was my high school animal, the tigers. The false tigers. Tiger Falls, what's up? I don't know what I am.

Somebody tell me. I'm April 2nd, 1979. It's per year. so whatever 79 would be. So I'm 92, so I'm a monkey. Chinese? Yeah, Chinese. Yeah, 1986, tiger. Tiger.

And it means each of these years come with different attributes. I mean, I find this really interesting, right? I'm the goat. Goat. Oh, well, what's up? Are you a goat joke? You're 79? I'm 79, man.

What's up, goat? Yeah, nice. You're also a goat. Oh, wow. That's what I'm talking about., man. What's up, goat? Yeah. Nice. You're also a goat. Oh, wow. That's what I'm talking about. Goats. Rep the squad. What's yours, Hannah Claire?

I think I'm the pig or something. What year? 95. I have no idea what it is. 95 is the blind mole rat. Well, that's funny. You are the pig. Thank you.

You're a pig. I was going to make a Camp Possible reference. I didn't know if any of the boys in this room would get it. Yeah, I know. Sometimes translated as the boar. Yeah, that's me. I'm a boar. 93 is the rooster.

Dude. Roosters are cool. Yeah, roosters are based. We got all the rooster boys. We got too many. So we created an outside area. So it's outside of Chicken City. It's not the Chicken City suburbs.

And it's the area that's fenced off. And there's a little house there's like a little a little makeshift house so they can go in there and be safe from the wind and there's like 12 roosters and they're just outside exposed not going in they're just so dumb and they've just huddled together for warmth i'm like guys go in your little shelter and they just they don't stop telling me what to do i'm an independent chicken i rallied them earlier iied them, for those that were listening to Chicken City, at chickencity.com. I think chickencitylive.com. I rallied them and made sure they knew

that these young men, these brave men, are the front line to protect the city of Chicken City from predators, raccoons, and foxes. They got to get through these brave roosters before they could make it into the city where the civilians are at. Wow. A r's right that's right one year in the future the struggle all right steven says congratulations at blave kaiser you are first that's right he was first raymond g stanley jr says tim look at you out here making the january 6th hearing

and now trump's trial before you know it you'll be on trial yourself shout out phil's cameo yep you know it's kind of a weird thing like i didn't start doing this so that clips of me would end up at january 6 hearings or in trump's ballot hearing trial but it is going to be hilarious in like 100 years and they're like kids open up the archive and let's watch a clip from timcast irl a political show and we'll learn about the politics of the era and that's like i don't know me and ian saying stupid nonsense things and making jokes about fat pigs and like it'll be like insulting liz cheney president pool was a child he started

building computers at the age of 12 it'll be funny funny because it's like there's so much adverts. And I wonder anyone else like who was in the courtroom that day or whatever, if they're going to be like, I heard the show. It's kind of interesting. Tim Cass. Like, how many listeners do we have tonight? What show was this? In the courtroom.

All the news articles I write about it. No. Yeah. In the future, they're not going to mention President Poole. They're going to be talking in class about, you know, former presidents appearing on the show. And then one student's going to be like, how come we don't hear about Tim Pool in any other history books?

I'm like, ah, that's because shortly after this, he got into a van and went to live down by the river. That's how it'll turn out. Like Nikola Tesla. Or like the Avatar. You know, when we needed him most, he was gone. That's right. Chicken City.

For a hundred years. Yeah, where I envision myself ending up is like an old 65-year-old man on the top of a mountain with a bunch of chickens and a nice little RV or something to live in self self-sustainable and you know a pointy stick and when someone shows up being like we'd like to talk to you get off my property get away from me you crazy people i don't want to have anything to do with you leave me alone they're like wow this guy went crazy it's like yes he did uh all right where are we at

voice the people says since they played that clip of you and Kash Patel in court, does this mean everyone must be removed from trial? Remember, juror 77, they're all far right extremists now. That's right. Yeah, juror 77. Remember that in Trump's case, he had once seen an episode of Timcast and therefore they said he's biased. Got to go.

Well, now, now clearly after that, everyone in that trial saw that clip of me. Of course, they're fans. Does this mean that I will never have to serve jury duty? Yeah. Be like, oh, well, occasionally I'm on this podcast. Actually, yes. Get out of here.

No, no, but yeah. Wow, that's so, well, I guess I can never use an excuse to call out for it. I believe it is fair to say that if you went to jury duty, if you got summoned and you showed up and they asked you, like, I am a political personality and pundit and writer for a big publication. I appear on a live show every night. They'd be like, you're dismissed. They'd be like, no, you're not that. Get out of here.

You think you're famous? Well, because you read the news every single day. I think that right there is like, for my job, I do nothing but read the news. It would be impossible for me to not know about what's going on in this case. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, and it's like one aspect. Well, no, it's more than one aspect of the news. That's crazy.

I mean, never served jury duty. If I get asked, that's what I'm definitely going to say. No, this is the problem. You want to be on jury duty. Yeah, I'm not against it. It's just like a crazy thing to think, you know, when you make choices in life. The problem is the people who aren't smart enough to get off jury duty the ones who get jury duty yeah true you you i i always wanted to go on jury i never got i've

never got summoned for jury duty i'd love to be there and be like not guilty and they'll be like but sir he had the marijuana on him it's like we have it i'd be like not guilty and they'd be like but he confessed i'd be like i don't think you heard me now you're definitely and then it would be like oh for sure you know the um was that 12 angry men or whatever that movie was where like all the jurors and they're trying to convince them i would be the one guy and they'd they'd be like well we all think this guy's guilty of possession i'd be like not guilty and they'd be like they've recovered the evidence he's admitted to having it he's made a silly excuse i'm like not guilty then one by one the only argument i have is it shouldn't be illegal and then i'll be like so i'll just keep saying it over and over again until y'all say not guilty that's why i'd like to be on jury duty

you know now you never can like this is really blowing my mind now i never can i'm never gonna be able to serve on a jury when you're a strong feign. All you have to do if you never want to serve jury duty is say a simple sentence. If ever selected for jury duty, I will nullify in every circumstance. Done. I like jury nullification. It should be used more. But they'll arrest you. There's been activists outside of courts advocating for jury nullification and they arrest you for it because they're like, you can't do this.

But the jurors themselves can do it and they won't get messed with so it's it's it's interesting because yes you as the jury have ultimate power in deciding whether or not someone is guilty but what they do is they'll say you are not allowed they'll be like you must disregard your personal feelings the only question that matters is so i'll give you an example illinois uh two houses. One family was asked to watch over their neighbor's house. Neighbors went on vacation. It was a small town.

The police knew that this family was on vacation. The kid went in the back door, opened the fridge to steal a beer. He was like 18 or something. I say kid, he's a man. Cops driving by saw the light on, knowing the family wasn't there. Approached the house. Freeze. Ah, you're under arrest. What are you doing? And he's like, ah, you'd like, you're robbing this house. When it went to the

court, he, he said, the families were all like, we don't care. They took a beer. We, we told them they could watch the house and they're like, nope, it's, it's burglary. It's, it's, it's theft. And then a judge was like, there's a mandatory sentence for this. It doesn't matter what you think or want the state is prosecuting. So then he he said we'll go to trial then at trial they were like uh it doesn't matter to the jury what you think is right what matters is was the law broken he did not have permission to go in and take from the refrigerator which is burglary which is theft so he must be found guilty if those if you agree with those facts you must find him guilty and they went i i guess he's right they could have said no not guilty because it's a poor execution of the law

so you nullify the case yes and the judge apparently something happened where the judge was like i'm not sending this kid to prison over this are you insane and then the prisons were like we are not accepting this person are you insane and there's like just it's illinois is an evil place i'll put it that way i'm probably like butchering the story it's been 20 years but that's like the gist of it that everyone was just like why is this guy going through the system this way the jurors were like why are we convicting this guy and everyone's like oh but you have to but the reality was the jurors could have been like i don't care what you say i don't care what you think he's not guilty yeah i feel like it's weird to be in a circumstance where you're like, okay, suspend all of your values and make a decision.

Like, how could you possibly separate yourself from that? Actually, that's like being a judge. I was spending time with a girl that has been studying Lauren De Laguna. What's up for getting her? She passed the bar and has studied law. And the impartiality is fascinating of being a judge. You just like I know the law. That is a violation of it.

Continue. Stop. You're violating it stop continue and that's it doesn't matter what you think what you feel you're just you're the knowledge is present i guess i'm a judge but for a juror it seems impossible to ask that guy salroka says greetings from fremont ohio tim we love you here and we have jr's back in his bid to be our rep make northwest ohio great again awesome right on aina bacchus as i imagined ian returning saved by jesus christ more swole and running sub five second drills rifle pistol

drills oh i didn't even mention it luke rudkowski had me out to tactical training twice and it's i would i would suggest anyone no first aid no we did knife practice and then we did a lot of shooting and stuff and what's great about it is once you do it, once you start to train, you don't have to think about it anymore. You just are able to react in those situations. That's, and it's kind of like, I was like, oh, I don't want to go back and talk about world war three and all this crap. But it's like, what I'm doing is I'm training.

It's like tactical training for my mind. Muscle memory. Yeah. And so this, the metaphor of doing both the weapons training and the knowledge training of knowing about this horror is like, I don't have to think about it now that I know I can just react to the system. But I highly recommend tactical training and having some weapons training if you have an opportunity. All right. Paul Tascolo says new theory. When a 2024 Trump victory is apparent, Democrats will admit they did steal the election from Trump in 2020 and therefore he can't be elected in 2024 because it would mean he'd be elected for a third term. Well, what they

would say is you can't get elected a third time, not term. But yeah, definitely not going to happen. But funny. Wilpo IRL says Kennedy is going to win against Nikki Haley and Dean Phillips. Trump is going to spend the week of the convention in house arrest biden can't walk how is he going to run haha the election is the dark horse election it would be really funny if just like two months before the election some random person no one's ever heard of just appears and just gets all the support i was picturing like they give him like a trophy at the end of the at the end of the track and they're like okay you guys gotta run whoever gets that's gonna be president and they're like literally just comes down guys got to run. Whoever gets that's going to be president.

And they're like, literally, it just comes down to, you got to run for president. Well, we know who would trip and fall over their own feet. Dude, we need a strong commander, man. Yeah, we do. Yes, I think we all do. Trump's the only guy, man, I'm telling you. I mean, I think we all agree with that, but he's absolutely the guy that we need right now.

We need to cauterize a lot of things, and he's the match that's going to do it. I firmly believe it. All right, William Trash says, "'Tim and Ian, my girlfriend's dog Leo was put down today. He would have been 14 in January. She would really appreciate it if you guys could say a few words.

He was a good boy." Leo wasn't just a good boy. He was the best of boys. And we mourn his passing, for every good boy is a best friend. Leo's spirit is still here witnessing you. And he will be for a while. And then he'll go off.

And he'll be back with you. He's going to evolve, too. He's going to come back and inhabit something greater. Thank you. All right. Well, sorry to hear, William. Sorry to hear. But condolences.

All right. Riding with Ryan says, I saw the movie We Were Soldiers as a kid. Pretty young for the movie, but not too young. I've grown up strongly against war. Yeah. How about Saving Private Ryan?

Yeah, that's a good one. Is that brutal enough? Platoon? What else do we have? Platoon's pretty brutal, too. Full Metal Jacket. Full Metal Jacket. Full Metal Jacket.

Yeah. Apocalypse Now. Just have your six-year-old kids watch Full Metal Jacket. I'm kidding. Nobody says anything like, okay, I guess. They'll think basic training school until they get there. Total Recall. Have your kids all watch Total Recall.

Yeah, that's pretty brutal. The original one, not the remake the original one when his eyes are about to explode from his head and the lady has three boobs don't make him like they used to alright alright Ben says protests happening in Minneapolis started at 6pm central time

they were chanting from the river to the sea we will never be free how do you even chant that we will never be free. Is that what they're... How do you even chant that? You will never be free? What? Well, they chant, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. There's a rhythm to it, right? From the river to the sea, we will never be free.

Is that how you do it? Be. Extend it. There must be... I don't know if this is perfectly paraphrased here. Yeah, we will never be free. I don't know about that. We will be free. We will neverased here. Yeah, we will never be free. I don't know about that.

We will be free. We will never be free. We will never. Yeah, I don't know why you would say that. I don't know why you would say that. I'm sure they're being misquoted, but who knows? Maybe not. Jason Barker says,

I think war should be put up to a vote from the people, and if you vote in favor of war, you get put at the front of the line for conscription. Agreed. Yeah, totally. Everyone would then vote against war every single time. Every time. Well, technically, Everyone would then vote against war every single time, every time. Well, technically,

if our representatives listen to their constituents and the president actually followed the rules, then we would have that mechanism. Yeah. Well, you could also, here's the choices. If you support war,

if you vote in favor of it, you're conscripted frontline infantry. If you vote against it, you voted against it. Congratulations. You don't got to fight or you can abstain. And what would happen is if you really do want the war but don't want to fight, you just don't vote. And then maybe the people who do fight and want war will vote for it and then they will win the vote. So it's still possible for there to

be war in certain circumstances without the majority of people voting for it. But I think overwhelmingly what would happen is the no's would be 80%. in certain circumstances without the majority of people voting for it but i think overwhelmingly what would happen is the nose would be 80 percent yeah or the democrats would steal the election the democrats would just rig we're going to war in world war iii again and then the republicans would be like slow down there democrats and they'll go the speed limit and do the same thing raymond g stanley jr says shout out to my shout out all my fellow handymen yeah it's funny like that's funny the handymen are billionaires with private jets because they're the only ones who know how to fix things and no one else does raymond g stanley truly is handy yeah and uh randy marsh is like if if you fix my stove i'll i'll

teach you geology i have a phd like it's a completely worthless profession in terms of like day-to-day living. Yeah. What do geologists do right now? Maybe they make some money like surveying, I'm imagining. Well, I know that there are some that they do aerial, they get aerial photographs

and they look for minerals, veins and things like that. They know where to find them and why. But I mean, like in terms of actual geological research, what do they do? A lot of geologists that I know

work in the petroleum industry. That's where their background is because of science. I couldn't say. I just say I wanted to date a car guy because then I never had to deal with my car again. You know, like having someone in your life who is practical and can actually fix things is great.

True. Highly recommend it. Bogert's IT says 60 slash 66 60 of 66 credits 30k in debt no degree because i failed college algebra three times now running my own phone repair business and could use that 30k yep i just want to mention something as a total aside because this person's name was bogart do you guys know what a boggart is from harry potter what is it like a like a witch it's not a witch like a troll in the in the in the woods because this person's name was Bogart. Do you guys know what a Boggart is from Harry Potter? What is it, like a witch?

It's not a witch, like a troll in the woods? A Boggart? Yeah, those are the things that take the shape of your worst fear. And everyone's right now saying, what is he talking about? No, no, no, hold on. I was thinking about this recently. This is a classic reference.

What do you mean you don't get it? Yeah, like what a Boggart is? It's Harry Potter, man. But this is important because in the movie, in the book, it's like the teacher, he looks at it and turns into the moon because he's a werewolf and he's scared of that or whatever. And then I was just thinking about it and I'm like, the concept created by J.K. Rowling is really stupid because it's impossible. You know why? Do you know what every person would see if a manifestation of their worst fear appeared

before them um a lot of people in a crowd they're dead kids their dead wife their dead husband their dead child the greatest fear of the average person is not bees or clowns it is staring at the dead body of their loved one yeah true and i'm like oh so that was a weird idea but anyway i just like boggart reminded me of this thing i was thinking about and i'm like but then actually apparently that was in the book that like i guess it was like uh ron's mom yeah ron's mom saw her kids dead which was very sad right and also when they do it in the book you have to remember they're like you know i don't even know middle school age high school age children so their fears are very different i think ron's fear was getting yelled at by essentially his mom or

something like that fear is an interesting word because there's probably different kinds of fear i was up really high like 28 stories and out on a balcony and i was like whoa push couldn't like that weird feeling of like getting that fear of the heights is different than the fear of losing a loved one like that terror but it's similar but it's like it's hitting different areas of my body yeah different kinds of fear is there is there a list of the seven different fears or something like the different love that's awesome because they're it's true like the fear i feel when i see like a wasp flying towards me is a totally different feeling from the fear of like when war is about to start like the feeling that i got when they announced the troop the the personnel deployments i'll be careful with troops and the the two carrier groups going

to the mediterranean it's like a sinking feeling of dread but then we're like i see a wasp it's like a shock where i'm just like ah they're an adrenaline rush but not i'm not really scared it's more of like a book you know apparently there are three types of fear main types primal irrational and rational no so the war type would be irrational it would be rational fear to fear war whereas my you're standing up high on a balcony is irrational or maybe it's primal no that's not irrational irrational fear is like phobia it's like oh it's a clown oh i'm terrified that's irrational and primal would be bees something yeah something that could kill you snakes

something something that induces fight or flight, probably. Yeah, so there are things like when cats eat cucumbers. That's primal fear. Like, they're clearly not scared of the cucumber, but... I think it could be a snake. Because cats evolved to be alert when they see something that looks like a snake, and it's helped them survive. It's more primal.

Rational is like, a bee will sting me, I will die. And so I am afraid of that. Irrational is, ah, it's a clown run! That's a guy die and so i am i am afraid of that irrational is ah it's a clown run that's a guy in a costume why are you why are you scared of that when i'm up high and i get that fear of the of the falling off the edge i wonder if that's primal because like some ancient ancestor fell from great heights and it's in my dna or something because the humans who survived didn't fall and so the humans who are more likely to be afraid of heights were more likely to survive so now within you it's ingrained but uh in terms of the different types of fear i'm saying like you get um a jump

scares you turn a movie on and then the ghost goes boo and you're like oh like primal fear that's not primal fear stuff jumping out of you at you no bro i'm talking about you know there's like eros and phobos or whatever that's not the same thing as you're describing these are no this is not that's a greek the greeks have the 10 kinds of love that's what i'm talking about this is like because there's there's rational and irrational love as well some people irrationally love inanimate objects and they should not you know what i mean that's totally different this is a great topic this would be well worth it is interesting my biggest fear is a geriatric president well you got it fighting to live scared to live in America right now.

Living in a constant nightmare. Yeah. You open the cabinet, the bagger comes out, and it's Joe Biden. Dude, you're joking. That's the best part. All right, here we go. Polly Puree says, I worked at a nuclear power plant years ago. Water very tightly contains the radiation.

They kept the rods in a swimming pool. Yeah, so there's a story of a scuba diver who got sucked into like an intake valve and was swimming in the reactor pool totally fine because water blocks radiation yeah probably in the spent fuel pool if he was in the reactor pool it'd be a different story then there you go that might have been there's also a i believe it was in japan um construction workers or or um they so they were working around the spent fuel pool and they had a glass tube right and they stuck the tube into the water and he looked into it and it pretty much fried his brain no i don't know i don't know if that's like tribal to the nuclear industry if it's like the boogeyman

and we all talk about it but i've heard that story because he created a path for the radiation yeah that's crazy and that's why i always get bothered in movies when they have like a remote control underwater drone or something because i've done this drone work i'm like it's impossible you can't broadcast signals through water it blocks radiation so that if you have underwater drones are wired and that's why the drones they do have they're wired and they do shallow surveys of ships and stuff but going deeper you you has to be wired connection because water blocks radiation. Also, I love how in space, liquid nitrogen is what they use to insulate to keep something warm. Isn't that crazy?

Yeah. You'd think it's the opposite. Yeah, it would. But that's not how vacuums work. Also, you don't freeze in outer space. I can't stand movies when it's like they're in outer space and they're freezing. Is it because there's no moisture? Because there's no convection. The heat can't escape your body to anywhere so it stays where it is and builds up and you get hotter and hotter and then you you die yeah so like in

order for heat to leave your body you need to blow it away and transfer the heat from one it has to convection that's kind of like a nuclear meltdown situation that's why the stuff melts down because it can't get the heat out of it yeah in outer space there's nowhere for the heat to go you're in a vacuum so you melt down it's like

yeah it's like in a thermos the reason the way these things work is they're vacuumed on you know on all sides but one and so heat can only escape up whereas with a regular mug

it's escaping in every direction anyway the more you know the worst the best part of having a political show is dropping all the science we of having a political show is dropping all the science we learn along the way it's absolutely how they contain spent nuclear fuel

all right tyrian says as a coloradan tds is strong here in the cities what are we saying they they they uh secure nuclear they put they yeah they they put in the vacuum yeah they draw they draw a vacuum on the container they actually backfill it with helium and then they yeah they draw the vacuum backfill with helium and then the uh the the the stainless steel shell can heat but it's does the helium help like normalize the pressure while and the temperature right yeah interesting you know helium's finite and we're running out yeah we got to fuse some hydrogen well once we figure out fusion we'll be able to mass produce uh helium too so about that deuterium oxide that's right heavy hydrogen when you add a neutron to the hydrogen smash it together in a palladium

lattice i was talking with richie earlier he was like fission is which one is fission and fusion and we are talking about fusion reactors and fusion engines and uh it was interesting conversation i'm going to connect you guys to a buddy of mine that actually has a startup company and uh he he's he's right now going through the licensing process and and through uh grant the grant process with the doe that he's probably the strongest advocate right now in the country to recycle spent nuclear fuel genius guy i think i think you'd love him all right keegan mazzo says welcome back ian there's a russian orthodox monastery being built in wayne west virginia i am planning a pilgrimage to it soon i would like to know if you wanted to go and see it as well to get into contact with me you can

find me on the discord keegan mazzo we should film it really yeah that does sound cool we should do like a little mini like 10 minute visit to the russian orthodox monastery and like you know ask them what it's all about that'd be great yes yeah fun stuff we'll uh we'll grab some more we'll grab some more where we at uh just leave me alone says florida trump county what does the sand is not understand about that oh there you go madeline brad just as i work in nuclear engineering you guys are doing a decent job explaining risk is actually small and there's a ton of backup protection it would bring a lot of high-paying technical jobs it's clean energy carbon carbon emission free we should be building nuclear plants all over the place so to be clear to the audience i am not an engineer by trade i

have a master's degree in business i I was someone that was in management. I managed and led a lot of smart engineers that were a heck of a lot smarter than me. So my scientific knowledge or my technical knowledge is all just based on observation. So some of the questions you asked me, I can't answer them because I didn't have the technical background. All right. Not a fake it till you make it you did answer them but you were honest it's it's all from me me learning and observing the people that that worked with me isaac gorski says why the hell don't we just use the wheels of the cars to create motion powered cars with their own power source that's right i saw this really funny video you may have seen it where it's a car and they've got a generator strapped to the back right wheel to so when the wheel spins it spins

the generator and is charging and they're like wow that's so smart and these people are so dumb they don't understand the conservation of energy they don't understand the basic laws of thermodynamics that all he's doing is robbing his vehicle of energy by doing that yeah but you know i will say shout out to mythbusters they created an an internal what was it it was an internal kinetic motor and so the the idea was that you could not create an engine that was uh inside a boat to cause motion because equal and opposite reaction, but it actually disproved it. And they were able to create forward motion with an internal engine. Basically the way it worked was it fires, it sits in the middle of the boat, doesn't touch the water and it fires a piston. And then when the piston hits the end, it pulls everything forward.

And the idea is the pressure of moving the piston forward creates an opposite reaction in another direction, which should prevent the boat from moving forward. But I'm pretty sure that it was MythBuster who did this. They actually were able to drive the boat forward using internal. I think it's because the earth is round and you're kind of always falling forward when you're in the water. Well, there goes the flat earthers. And that is very wrong. It might have something to do with it.

But the way the waves always kind of move towards the shore like that is something the moon also is pulling you the issue i think it was actually really simple math was that the the uh initial reaction which fired the piston does create uh a reaction in both directions reaction right and then the catching of the piston creates a minor shock in one direction is what caused it and then they've also got really interesting uh i was watching something about using uh what was it like firing electrons or photons inside a device and then at uh so this would work in outer space the amount of force created from electrons hitting a plate internally would would have no effect on earth because of friction and weight and gravity but in outer space it would build up enough to where over time it would create speed yeah when uh when you heat

up one it's kind of how spores travel through space the brighter side of the spores on top and then the dark sides underneath so the brighter side orients towards a star and then begins to spin which creates gyration and momentum i just love science so fun regarding all right well we got we got it we got to go regarding it we'll just do this real quick regarding catching energy out of a system like out of your car you can get what's called extra p which is a little bit of lost energy can be reused it doesn't give you enough to propel the system like a computer all that heat coming out of your computer can be used to like heat water and can heat the pipes in your house but all right we're gonna go to the members show so head over to timcast.com click join us the members only show starting in a couple minutes you don't want to miss it we're gonna go to the members show so head over to timcast.com click join us the

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Three hours? We're looking at doing an event in Pittsburgh. We'll have to invite the Ohioans to come. Oh, I'd love to come. Yeah, absolutely. They love you in the ninth dude. Yeah. They love us red, white, and blue Americans, man.

I went to Pittsburgh last weekend, and I've never been recognized more. Basically, like i went to a poker room and the lady was there she was like i knew it was you and i was like oh thanks and then like every table they're like oh hey look at us i'm like damn pittsburgh people know me i guess west is the best man i think but i think it's because i have chicago sensibilities and so it's like midwesterners yeah are you know we kind of see these things and we're not the coasts. It makes sense. But anyway. Well, I'm all for the pro-Pittsburgh talking points, even though I've never been there. I am really glad that we were here tonight.

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