Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #904 FIST FIGHT IN SENATE STOPPED By Bernie, Kevin McCarthy ATTACKS GOP Rep w/Lauren Chen

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Lauren Chen to discuss Bernie Sanders breaking up a fight during a senate hearing, Kevin McCarthy being accused of elbowing another senator, Nikki Haley promising to end online anonymity, and Target beginning to sell LGBTQ Christmas decorations.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Download the BetMGM Ontario app today. You don't want to miss out. Visit BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Please gamble responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, Okay, so a fistfight almost broke out in the Senate in one of the hearings today. And Bernie Sanders ruining all my fun. We had two adult men agreeing to a mutual combat situation and bernie sanders starts yelling like you're a united states senator sit down and let you know he's yelling at him and then uh no kidding this really happened i definitely want to talk

about it and then we had um probably the more important story is Kevin McCarthy physically attacking a rep who voted against him. This rep, Burchette, says that he was elbowed a straight kidney shot. And Kevin McCarthy is trying to back away. He's like, I was just walking through the hall and I bumped into him. That's all that happened. And these reporters are like, dude, the hallway is massive. How do you accidentally bump into a guy in the hallway? Like, no one believes you.

Plus, a reporter from NPR watched it happen. So we definitely got to talk about this. And, you know, I don't know a bunch of other stories. We got some weird and wild ones. And Wokeness, an account on X, posted a picture of a black Santa Claus in a wheelchair ornament that Target is selling. I did not believe

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We have this guy named Serge. Oh, yes. I also should say thank you to giving me the same or a similar basket. I appreciate it as well. It's always good to see you here, especially someone that's like a fellow Southeast Asian third culture kid, you know? Yeah, for sure. We're holding down the fort with a Celsius.

Oh yeah. All right. Shall we jump to the news? Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if this is the most important story, but it's certainly one of the most fun. And Bernie Sanders has to go and spoil everything.

When I, when I, when you search for the story about the fist fight that nearly occurred in the Senate, in a Senate hearing, most headlines are like Bernie Sanders stops fist fight. And he did. And I am upset with Bernie.

Okay. Okay. I'm not really, you know, that you shouldn't fight in the Senate, but here's the story. Senator Mullins challenges Teamsters president to fight during committee hearing. Senator Mark Wayne Mullin, a Republican challenged Teamsters president Sean O'Brien to a fight during a Senate committee on health, education, labor, and pensions committee hearing on Tuesday. I really would love to get Senator Mullin on the show now because this was just absolutely epic.

And let me, so Sean M. O'Brien has been making fun of Mullens. He tweeted, greedy CEO who pretends like he's self-made. In reality, just a clown and fraud. Always has been, always will be. Quit the tough guy act in the senate hearings you know where to find me any place any time cowboy hashtag little man syndrome and there's a photo of him standing on a box during a debate or something like this and uh you know what i i'm just gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna play the video for you guys and uh you can listen for yourselves

like he's self-made sir i wish you was in the truck with me when I was building my plumbing company myself and my wife was running the office because I sure remember working pretty hard in long hours. Pretends like he's self-made. What a clown. Fraud. Always has been, always will be.

Quit the tough guy act and these Senate hearings. You know where to find me. Any place, any time, cowboy. Sir, this is a time, this is a place. If you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults. We can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. You want to do it now?

I'd love to do it right now. Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your solution? He goes for the wedding stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. He goes for the wedding ring. Sit down. Sit down.

You're a United States senator. Sit down, please. Can I respond? Hold it. Hold it. If we can't. No, I have the mic. I'm sorry.

Hold it. You'll have your time. Okay. Can I respond? No, you can't. It's a hearing. Oh, wow. It's in our official government record.

Okay, but my question is, does this happen more or less often now that there are cameras televising this than in the past? Well, there was that Democrat who just announced he's retiring, and one of his big critiques was that Congress is performative, that everyone's just looking to have their viral moment. But what I like about this, and I did confirm this just now, is that Mullins is in fact a former undefeated MMA champion.

No, wait, what? On his official bio on the Senate, Mark Wayne Mullins is a former undefeated mixed martial arts MMA fighter with a professional record of 5-0. He was inducted into the Oklahoma Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2016. So I'm telling you, he's ready for this. He was inducted into the Oklahoma Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2016. So I'm telling you, this would have been amazing.

Wow, man. I would love to get him on maybe a Culture War episode. I like his energy. You got to get him and the Teamster, though. No, they'll fight. Yeah, exactly. It's not really a Culture War episode. I'm just saying like some sort of Logan Paul boxing match.

Yeah, that's who needs to reach out to them. Logan Paul, what are you doing here, team? I just, I gotta say this. Let's be real. Okay, here's Mr. O'Brien. You know, this dude would get rocked by moments. Yeah. He'd get pushed, he'd push him, and then he'd get choked.

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He might have an ill-fitting suit on. Look at this guy's face. Who's this? Look at this guy. Who's this? He's so into it. Who's this guy? What is this? I think he's probably an ATO bride who is like, let's go. This is what I came here for.

I just, you know that meme where it's like the two women are like, and they cover their mouths and the guy just smiles. I imagine a lot of the guys in there watching this haven't started laughing. Like, let's go bernie bernie like really came off as a badass except if he was bigger and stronger than the other dudes i would have been like oh there's my president he is like the high school teacher coming out into the hallway and being like everybody go go to your rooms this is like killing the fun and i think i mean mark when mullins is interesting to me because he's one of the only tradesmen

who has a seat in the Senate, right? And actually, theoretically, Bernie Sanders also lists himself as a former carpenter. And so we have tradesmen v. tradesmen v. Teamster, which I find interesting. Do you think that was a planned moment or it's just a moment of passion? I think he went in knowing he would try to fight him. I just don't think he was expecting a response of like, yes, I you like let's go now so here's a tweet from citizen free press update mullen posts a picture with his guns and challenges teamster boss sean o'brien to a fight wonderful duel because he's got he says let's do it any place any time and then he tagged comfortably

smug in it comfortably smug said this is an invitation for senator mullen to come on ruthless podcast oh okay he's not he's not threatening to duel right okay citizen free press is wrong he's responding to the podcast saying he's gonna go to pocket oh hey senator mullins we'd love to have you on we definitely gotta talk about this yeah let's make a make some noise about the challenge do you think that watching dudes fight makes culture become more combative or is it like an outlet or do you think that watching dudes fight makes culture become more combative or is it like an outlet? Or do you think that we should see people fight because then we know that there are correct times to channel aggression instead of just letting people be weirdly passive aggressors forever until they default into extreme violence? Right. Because we're seeing less violence from our

at least elected officials than ever. But at the same time, I feel like we're more in terms of rhetoric and division, like we've gone further to the extreme. So maybe it's we're actually lacking the consequences that comes from this rhetoric that would naturally kind of pull people back. Maybe we do need to see that, oh yeah, words have consequences. You can't just mouth off and expect nothing to happen.

Like people eventually will call you out. And some people, like Mullins, they might be willing to go to blows. Yeah, I always heard the big difference between men and women was that women are sort of past aggressive. They hold grudges forever, but also be willing to go to blows. Yeah. I always heard the big difference between men and women was that women are sort of past aggressive. They hold grudges forever, but also they are not prone to violence.

Whereas men, if they have a conflict, ultimately it always would come to like hitting each other. But then at that point you've decided who's sort of in charge. So you can almost move past it. Right. Often yelling with two guys, guy friends will like yell at each other. I don't do it as much anymore, but like growing up, it'd be like, ah, you'd scream it out and then you'd be done

and then it'd be totally back to normal the next day. Yeah. Very different from women. Yeah. Women would hold on to that for the rest of their lives. Exactly.

I like this guy. They'd see each other, but they'd hate each other. Yeah. He's the only current, he's the only currently serving Senator without at least

a bachelor's degree. Wow. He's super cool. He also is like an active, I think he, I don't know what the term is, but he like ranches, he raises cows and

stuff like he is an interesting person he's a real cowboy mma fighter yeah i was working on this piece for a long time where i was like stalking all the professional backgrounds of everyone in the senate and uh he's really unique right there are senators that literally own mlb teams and there's this guy who has a big family and is actually a tradesman who built his company and then made to you a senate like why don't we have more people like that? He's super rich. Let's see. It says between November 06 and April 07, Mullen fought in three MMA fights, winning all three. His total fight time was less than 10 minutes, and he fought a total of less than three full rounds. That's the way to win. Wow. So I mess that dude up. Yeah. Also, he should

now fight every other american senator yeah not the women but like that would be fascinating right well why not you know what's gender yeah exactly instead of this uh voting for our uh speaker of the house we just have them fight like wakanda that's how we should decide political leadership yeah yeah what is it patriarchal bloodlines in in ritual combat uh mark wayne mullen i want to i want to make sure everybody understands he did not start the fight that dude threatened him on twitter and then and then imagine i mean dude you're you're like i'm here to do my job and this guy's posting that he wants to fight me that he's going to fight me and then he's going to show up to where

i'm working and i have to testify before me i'm going to call him, and then he's going to show up to where I'm working and have to testify before me, I'm going to call him out for it. I respect it. Yeah. And as much as I think all of the men listening are like, Oh, Bernie, what are you doing? Okay, Bernie. The responsible portions of the male brain are saying,

I know you should stop the fight. Nobody wants to get hurt. But, you know, the more primate part of the brain is screaming birdie no yeah it was um it was i mean it would have set a precedent of that fighting in there is okay if they'd fought but i think if they both if they both agreed to it then why wouldn't we a gentleman's duel well that's the thing mutual combat is legal a lot of places i don't know if it's legal in dc let. Let me check, actually. I think in Oregon, mutual combat, there's no crime if two people agree to fight. Dude, that guy, that bald dude was going to get rocked.

He had no idea. He was talking crap. Dude, best people that haven't gotten hit or been in a fight before, they always think they're going to win in a situation like that. They think a little bit bigger than them. It's not always how it works, man. Well, he knew someone would intervene. I just, you know, could you imagine this guy waking up in the morning and be like, Bernie

Sanders is going to intervene on my behalf only only it's not oregon it's washington state and texas have mutual combat laws uh both both parties must agree to the fight it must be in public and there can be no serious bodily injury to the part uh put the participants but how do they distinguish between that and something like the ufc because you could do ufc in las vegas i mean isn't that technically a mutually agreed upon fight i think they're called sanctioned fights like right to be sanctioned like they get permits for these fights to happen and everybody knows that like you know the best mma fights are after the fight's over the dudes touch gloves give a hug and then go like they know that they don't

hate each other they're trying to be the best fighter. That, I love watching that. I can't stand the snooty MMA fighters who are, like, smack-talking, and I'm like, I get it. They're trying to, like, get attention and build ratings or whatever. But I like the fights when a dude loses, and the other guy, like, gives him a fist bump, they shake hands or whatever. Well, my husband, he's really into UFC. He watches it, like, basically

any Saturday that there's a fight, but he was saying that there's an incentive for them to trash-talk and try to make it as toxic as possible because then it draws viewers and then their bag's bigger and there's just more attention on them. Exactly. You want people to hope you lose. Then more money

comes in. Everybody wants to watch because they're looking for the villain and it's like, yeah, whatever. That happened with that Logan Paul fight recently. Some guy was talking about his ex-girlfriend or his wife wife i don't even want to propagate the nonsense but logan went in there decimated the dude yeah and then it didn't get any didn't get as much attention as i would uh i mean they weren't like top billing or anything no now my friends while uh many of you may may be sad to hear that the fight didn't actually happen don't worry a different fight

did we got this from the New York Post. Rep Tim Burchette accuses bully Kevin McCarthy of attacking him with, quote, clean shot to the kidneys in Capitol Hallway. Yep, this one's hilarious. And as much as they're saying it's a claim and it's alleged, an NPR reporter was standing there recording and tweeted out. She saw this happen,ccarthy came up from behind him and shoved him and she thought it was a joke and then a chase ensued we started yelling at mccarthy and what britchett said is that he got he elbowed him straight in the kidneys so this britchett voted against kevin mccarthy mccarthy is it's a mental breakdown dude matt gates pointed out at our miami event this is so amazing so

glorious that mccarthy gets a billion dollars or whatever in these in these in this month you know and money for the rnc and for his campaign and all this stuff so he has control but you know he owes people now he's got to deliver a speaker of the house now that he's removed he cannot deliver on those promises and those ious are now basically toilet paper. I can't imagine what it must be like to sell your soul out to what is effectively the mafia. And then only what, like a month later, be like, I am no longer in the position to pay you back. I don't think the dudes who gave you that money will take that for an answer. And so Kevin McCarthy is probably freaking out and sweating bullets and uh not too happy with

the people who voted against him yeah but it's also it's just so corrupt i mean it's this is exactly why we should have term limits because you're exactly right that is how dc works but it it shouldn't be and that's it's just so toxic i don't like the idea of well lately i thought about maybe evolving our house of representatives into like the entire population so that we all have the opportunity to pass to set up bills right now we still have the senate so and the republics would still they still be there and if the power goes out we would send them all to the capital so they'd still have their job they would just be part of the population and like deciding bills and sending them to the senate because it's too easy to bribe those 450 people i feel like that would be really hard to get things done i'm not

as opposed to the efficiency of dc now right but at least some stuff does happen but maybe we just but maybe that's exactly why we should do that because it would be really hard to get stuff done maybe we want that depends on what you want like if you want to impeach mayorkas and we're not doing that anyways perhaps that system's the same right but if you want any funding for the border or anything that you do want pushed through Congress, then having a convoluted system might be hard. I don't know. Okay, well, we've got a video from Kevin McCarthy

who's responded. And Citizen Free Press says, Kevin McCarthy sounds like a man who was caught red-handed hitting Tim Burchett. I guess our shoulders hit. I did not run and hit the guy. I did not kidney punch him. Reporter immediately grills McCarthy over his claims.

Here we go. A reporter was interviewing Burchard or something. I guess our shoulders hit because Burchard runs up to me after. I didn't know what he was talking about. So the reporter's asking me. I did not run and hit the guy. I did not kidney punch him.

I did not shoot anything like that. You didn't shot him. No. We're walking through. You were at HC5, right? You guys line up along the way there. It was Bruce Wester and I walking out. He must have been interviewing somebody.

I didn't know it was him or something. I guess I almost did as I walked by. I didn't punch anybody. Did he come after you? I guess it happened because when I was walking back further, somebody was interviewing me or talking to me, and he comes running up like, why did you hit me or something like that?

I said, I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't even know something transpired. But reporters and witnesses said it looked like there was plenty of room for you to walk and that you intentionally hit him. Okay, not a place. Show me a reporter who saw that. Yeah, Claudia Grisales. Okay, well, ask Bruce Westerberg. No, I did not go up.

You said that guilty voice. Right? What did I do? He's trying to like over justify it's like a little too much talking the bigger the story the bigger the lie yeah he would have been like no i didn't twice while he was in congress in the chamber when have i pushed him kensinger said he was in the back railing once and you elbowed him and pushed him kensinger kensinger i don't know if you rewind that he thought that they said matt gates Kinzinger said he was in the back railing once and you elbowed him and pushed him. You said Gates. Kinzinger. Kinzinger.

Oh, no, I don't know. Kinzinger said that. Can you rewind that? He thought that they said Matt Gates. He's got Gates on the brain. All right, let's play it. You pushed him twice while he was in the chamber. Oh, yeah.

He said he was in pain that you hit him so hard in the kidneys. Oh, come on now. Three seconds. Okay. That's far from it. Speak up for Friday. Congressman Kinzinger wrote that you pushed him twice while he was in Congress in the chamber. When have I pushed him?

Kinzinger said he was in the back railing once and you elbowed him and pushed him. You said Gates. No, she didn't. The girl behind him said Gates. Okay. Congressman Gates, though, is filing or submitting a complaint to the Ethics Committee for this issue. Do you have any thoughts on Congress and Gates? No, I think ethics is a good place for Gates to be.

Can I ask you about Congress? Birchett said that you're the kind of guy, this is his words, who would throw a rock and then go hide under his mom's skirt. What's your response? This is Congress. Is there bad blood between you and Burchette?

Yes. None at all after he voted to oust you? No. What would you say about the issue of decorum in Congress? I mean, there was a House oversight hearing where a member was called a smurf. You have over in the Senate. When did that happen? Today.

It's almost called a smurf. Yeah, Senator Mulner. Over to Bosco. You have Senator Mullen who's like about to bite oh this is great why do you think things are so tense I think members have been

should have been like oh you elbowed me in the kidney he's got dates on the brain and Burchette was at a DC Young Republicans event the night before and called Kevin McCarthy bitter? I mean, they know what's happening. This is all all of their staffers probably talked about all day. When she asked him if he had bad blood with that dude, he looked away and looked back at her and said, no.

Like, that's a lie. When you look up to the left, that's an indication that you're lying. But I guess to play devil's advocate, apparently there were reporters around when this happened. Why would he do it in front of a reporter? Because he has no self-control?control yeah he's having a mental breakdown dude he was he before he was even voted in a speaker he was moving into the speaker's office and matt gates called him out for it this dude was having a temper tantrum the whole time i have to imagine that when kevin mccarthy was facing that showdown in the first vote to put him in as speaker, he was probably scared as hell that he was not going to get it. And he was like, I'm just going to move my stuff and I'm going to get it.

It's going to happen. I'll do what I have to do to get it. And he finally got it. I bet the dude cried. I bet he went home and he was crying. I finally got to be speaker. And then sure enough, like what is it, like a month or so later, like two months later, he's gone. He's got to act as cool and collected as he can but clearly the dude is unwound and he's walking

down the hallway and this dude voted to oust him it was eight republicans that did it and he elbows him in the back a reporter watched it happen dude is losing his mind yeah i can't imagine the stress that this kind of public you you know, life brings to anyone. But it does seem a little weird that you would be like, there's that guy for the first time I'll hit him. On the other hand, like, maybe that is a sign that, you know, Congress is as unstable as it looks from the outside. I mean, at least Mark Wayne Mullins, you know, formally challenged him to basically a duel, but with your hands, whereas this seems like a cheap shot. Yeah, like a petty sucker punch

type of thing. Yeah, Mullins confronted the guy who called him out and said he wanted to fight, stands up, and I love when he goes for his wedding ring. He's like, he left it on. Right, because Bernie was like, sit down. You're a son of a dick of your wife. This McCarthy guy

had me on edge the entire time and i kind of kept my mouth shut in the first few months that he was speaker because i wanted the best for the house but he sounded like trudeau the whole time his voice and he talks like this and he has the kind of voice and now his voice is going up and down when he's trying it's just so pandering and oh like where's the authority in this voice it's he's such like a i don't know i don't want to do any um mine is just they go back to the question of decorum right and do we need decorum this is a some uh criticism that gets levied at trump all the time that he doesn't have decorum that he doesn't act presidential but maybe people don't want that i mean i think of the british

parliament and they i don't know that anyone challenged anyone to a fight on the floor of parliament but they yell they're similar in australia exactly yeah i think you need about as much decorum as bernie sanders like no i didn't say that like that kind of decorum like willing to kind of like take off his tie or get his tie undone if he's getting hot but like not throw cups at people and stuff like that like he has a limit to the there was some senator i can't remember who it was who threw a snowball at someone during a debate on global i'll find that recently it was a long time ago because i think i i was writing about it i think it might have been tester from alaska i could be wrong on this i'll check in a second but they were having a debate on global warming and so he went out scooped up snow and then like

threw it across the chamber at him like there have been weird funny moments and i guess you know we weren't allowed to throw snowballs at my school because they could have pebbles in them and you could hurt someone. Yeah, same. But I mean, there's a difference between decorum and vitriol. And you could say like, OK, we're going downhill in terms of decorum because we should all be polite and things like that. But in terms of just I mean, we have been accusing each other. Congressmen have been accusing each other of things like racism and corruption for a long time. Like that's not new.

So I mean mean either way these people are they're going they're backstabbing each other they're trying to ruin each other's careers is it a big deal that they might i mean now it might just be coming to the surface a little bit more i don't think so i mean i think the the lack of professionalism lack of unity was already there it's just a little bit more apparent now when the snowball was uh jim inhofe of oklahoma which is where mark wayne melons from. So maybe those Oklahoma boys. Yeah, they're pretty metal. Trump, when he said Rosie O'Donnell is a fat. He didn't say that. Well, how did he say it? She said, Megan Kelly asked about how you've insulted women. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement

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you know, fat pigs or whatever, and he says, only Rosie O'Donnell. Okay, and then that means in the past he has called her a fat, or he's acknowledging that he did call her a fat pig in the past?

I don't think he's, I don't think he was implying that he literally said the words fat pig, but that he was implying that he's insulted only rosie o'donnell or something like that i think unless he meant literally the only person he's called a fat pig was her when it goes too far is when you're in public office and you're using your time publicly to insult people like with mean like you dumb idiot that thing because then that just wastes time

wastes taxpayer money i don't want that in my office i agree but personally i don't think calling someone like a fat cow is any worse than slandering someone as like a white supremacist or a racist or whatever. You know what I mean? Like one might be construed

as like more street and fighting words, but personally, I would rather be called a fat cow than, you know, like an anti-Semite that could actually ruin your career in this day and age. And congressmen have been calling people that for a long time.

And I got to tell you, Ian, the more time they spend insulting each other is less time they spend on giving our money away for bs government projects and war so i would much prefer it you know i thought we talked about this yesterday with war that i would take the entire war budget and just give it some random guy because some random american dude can spend it infinitely better than we waste on all these wars, like 20 years in Afghanistan. But I would rather every single member of Congress engaged in narcissistic mudslinging on the floor if it meant they weren't all in lockstep with funding war and foreign intervention.

That kind of backs up my suggestion that we disperse the House of Representatives. If they're that useless and you'd rather just see them insulting each other they really don't have no place in this country we we the people can pass laws and bills into the senate we don't need these 450 stopgap bribery uh vulnerabilities anymore i disagree i think they can join us in our i think citizen i think the answer is not to abolish congress it's to reform or amend. Yeah. Like all these people need to get voted out.

We need better rules. Clearly the system is busted. Mike Gravel had the fourth branch of government he wanted to create called the National Initiative. He's a senator from Alaska. And then it would have created a fourth branch of government. That's the people. The people would represent local people to go and act as another form of like a representative of the people themselves instead of it just makes the government bigger and they more bribery and vulnerabilities with these quite literally more members of congress either we do it ourselves and there's

330 million of us and you can't bribe us all now we need to repeal the 17th amendment and we need people to focus on their local politics more and stop acting like kevin mccarthy can do anything for you the dude does not represent any of us in any way, okay? He represents his district to the federal government. He does not represent you as a person. People think that our federal elected representatives are going to do anything for us at home. And that's why I've long complained about this.

You see these congressional ads where they're like, I'm going to clean up this town. No, you're not. You're going to Congress. You're going to DC. You're going to go vote on war and other garbage. If you want to clean up your town, if you want to fix going to congress you're going to dc you're going to go vote on war and other garbage if you want to clean up your town if you want to fix your crime gotta vote for local reps and so a lot of and and your governors and your state senators and things like that you want to know why california is all messed up it's because they vote for these people locally

it's not anything the federal government's doing yeah they can't also they can't read these 3 000 page bills it's but if we crowdsource it and we let the entire u.s population have at it you better believe there's going to be at least 700 people that are going to go read those 3,000 pages. They do. They do this. Yeah. But then these are the people that we need, like pushing the bills.

No, no. These are the, this was once called. The issue is that members of Congress should have to read the bills before they vote on them, but they don't do it. We should make it. What was your idea? You make it a felony to vote on a bill that you have not read yeah you have to swear under oath that you've read the bill if you're going to vote on it i would i would support that agree

i don't know what the argument against that would be they're corrupt and they want to sell out their positions to lobbyists right i mean but the the position that they could defend publicly for having that be like the spin i'm trying to think about it like i mean i think what they would say and i don't believe this but the counterpoint would probably be you know it would be impossible for us to to produce effective legislation that wasn't lengthy and so actually you're making impossible for us to get to like you know yeah they'd make like you're slowing us down argument but maybe that's the point that's the point yeah and that's why we want to get rid of omnibus omnibus bills, like what Matt Gates is doing.

Yeah. Like with spending bills, you used to actually have to have different ones. And that was a lot more efficient because you could actually know where the money was going. But they want the big bills so they can all slip their pork in there. And lobbyists can be like, ha-ha, like a little nut for me here, a little presence. And then I don't know if you guys follow Rand Paul. Like every year he exposes how much money is spent on useless things like giving birds cocaine and studying that or whatever it is. But no, it's crazy.

And it's literally, I would say, criminal how much how much they steal from taxpayers on useless things. He calls that the Festivus, his Festivus recount or something like that. Festivus. Yeah. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I want to play this video for you of Nikki Haley and explain to you why it is that you must vote for Donald Trump and why it is this woman should never be allowed anywhere near the seats of power. Reclaim the Net says Nikki Haley says if she's made president, every social media user will be verified by their name for national security purposes. And we will we'll play that video for you. When I get into office, the first thing we have to do, social media accounts, social media companies, they have to show America their algorithms.

Let us see why they're pushing what they're pushing. Okay, that I like, but carry on. The second thing is every person on social media should be verified by their name. First of all, it's a national security threat. When you do that, all of a sudden people have to stand by what they say. And it gets rid of the Russian bots, the Iranian bots and the Chinese bots. And then you're going to get some civility when people know their name is next to what they say. Accountability. And they know their pastor

and their family member is going to see it. It's going to help our kids and it's going to help our country. OK, so the funny thing about that is she's completely wrong. This country is built on anonymous pamphleting and writing and uh benjamin franklin and thomas jefferson and many others so uh what she's doing is she's taking things that elon musk has pointed out which are good ideas the option to be verified and the choice to interact with those who are and turning it into the government will force you to do it and then she immediately goes first first of all, she's like, everyone needs to have their name attached to their social security or to their social networking.

First of all, it's a national security threat. Like, yeah, that would be a national security threat if you forced everyone to put their name on their social. No, no, no. But you get the point. She inverted it. She didn't mean it to sound like that. The reason she's calling it a national security threat that has anonymous accounts is because that is, they're hard.

You can't stop us. We don't need a vote justification. We are going to send a national security letter to 2X and force them to do it to Facebook, et cetera, et cetera. They're going to make you do it. The purpose of minds. One of the main tenets of minds is that anonymous social networking is a human right. In my opinion, I don't know. Bill's actually come out and literally said that social media company founded in it in 2011 with bill ottman it's you have to be able to i didn't think about

it so deeply before but it's exactly like you said man um silence do good was benjamin franklin's first pen name he couldn't get published in his brother's paper when he was like 14 so he made some fake middle-aged lady and then he started getting published and of course uh poor richard's almanac he's a guy named poor richard and he would seed like revolutionary content into the populace because he always his whole life he probably wanted to revolt against the king but he wasn't able if he said out loud they would cut his head off so he had to use a pen name and if the same thing in modern day if it becomes tyrannical well especially when there are people who feel like their anonymity allows them to operate in society because their views are not permitted. I mean, to confront, you'd have to start really unpacking what hate speech is in America if you

really wanted to take away anonymous speech online and where the boundaries of free speech are. And that's what I think, you know, I'm not totally against her justification of like, if you had to put your name by everything you said, maybe you would operate differently. Maybe that's good. But there are people who write who write you know under pen names because they fear that they'll be targeted by a progressive attorney general who might go after their job or whatever else because they believe something that's not popular it starts to be this thing where like i just wonder what box we're opening and i'm not against the idea of accountability online, but at what cost and what are we protecting? It's kind of ironic because Nikki Haley rails against China, just one

of the many countries she probably wants to go to war with. But at the same time, I mean, this is the exact same type of police state that China is rightfully criticized for. So this is something that she wants to introduce. I mean, it's like she is on the wrong side of basically every single issue, which is almost impressive. She's like impressive batting average for just like the George Bush Republicans who basically killed the party for an entire generation. We should just make it so that in order to pass a bill, the person who is proposing it has to enter legislation by combat. So literally force Mark Wayne Mullins is getting all the stuff through. You've got you've got to carry the bill passed through the gauntlet of gladiators. Yeah.

Yeah. And then the congressman, they'll have paddles and they that would unironically enter in a new golden age for America. Have you guys seen all those studies where they look at how high testosterone and like gym attendance correlates with right wing views? We studied this. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's amazing. They should be 24 hours. You'll feel the right wing see. We cited this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. Within 24 hours, you'll feel the right wing seeping into you. Right. Ian lifted the barbell one time and then dropped it and then started praying. I become happy with myself

when I'm physically healthy. And that's part of like, maybe I want to conserve my life and my surroundings because I appreciate them more when I'm physically. Yeah, I think that's true. I think it does give you,

it gives you a sense of value and purpose which changes your how you approach the world which is is very interesting i guess what also that would also get rid of all the octogenarians that we have in congress as well they couldn't keep up they're not the age categories it's like 72 to 78 they all fight fight mullins that'd be so funny uh the other thing that stood out to me is that she said this is the first thing i do in office and i guess my question to you guys would be what would you want whoever gets elected to do what would the first what should be the first thing they do when they get to office firing people that's a great question something secretive that is big

and changes a lot of stuff um but what she said about making all these social networks free their code i don't agree with anymore i think we start we start with TikTok because it's a foreign company and proof of concept that they want to operate on US shore. They have to free their software code, their algorithms. And then if that turns out that it's really great for society, then we can use that as a castus belli to cause meta to open up their code. Yeah, let me tell you. So we have social media people who work here at Timcast, and we have the semi-unwritten

rules of various social media platforms when posting. And TikTok is the most insanely restrictive. Absolutely insane. So YouTube, surprisingly, the least. Well, I should pause. Rumble is the least. Axe and Rumble are like, you know, basically anything goes.

Just you're good to go. And we love that. YouTube is actually one of the least restrictive though they are fairly restrictive yeah and it's it's crazy because i i mean i've got the blazes youtube channel suspended for an entire week because i'm i'm not gonna say what i said about uh the elliot page i'll actually use the the name so i don't want to get your your page suspended either but um yeah that happened on youtube but it was for something that i mean i feel like youtube's more selective yeah about than something like facebook which yeah uh youtube actually does in some circumstances

look at context facebook absolutely does not and i'm not i'm not trying to defend youtube i think youtube censorship is a problem but facebook is insanely bad and tiktok is substantially worse feels like facebook relies a lot more on ai yes then yeah then alphabet and there's like no legitimate appeals process takes forever whereas with youtube we actually have like reps we can contact what at a certain level on youtube there's people who will work with you facebook doesn't care yeah. Yeah. They don't want you to appeal because they've made a decision. And it's crazy. My page on Facebook got demonetized once for lies. An organization claimed that one of my videos was fake news, and so it triggered a hard demonetization. And my video that I put up was 100% factually correct. I reached out to the organization and I said, my video is correct.

And they said, no, it's not. Here's your headline. And I said, the headline's a question. And the first sentence of the video is rejecting the claims made by people who are asserting this. And they were like, oh, we didn't actually watch it. So a third party flagged me to facebook and got my money turned off that's insane that's what facebook does it's not even about their internal teams it's about

them letting leftist progressive activists and government agents and i gotta wonder with this election integrity partnerships partnership stuff going on i'm i'm wondering if you know maybe we should reach out to members of congress who are working on this and the people we know who are working on it and ask them about what facebook is doing with the Poynter Institute and the power they give to third parties to remove content they don't like. But see, that's why that's why the left always wins and they're going to keep winning. I work with a ton of right wing conservative nonprofits. I mean, people people like TPUSA, we would never think, hang on, there's this huge company that has control of information. I should petition them so that I'm in charge of what people are allowed to post. Like that would never enter into like 99% of conservatives' minds. The left not only think this, but they actually put it into action and they insert themselves into roles of power very effectively. Unless the subject is Israel.

Yes. Then all of a sudden it's like everybody is just like, there's- Then it's like the megacarons. Yeah, right. Then it's just, i don't know what's going on that's the fascist bent in people when they're like we got to use the private companies to control society right they'll use it through legislation or through funding through legislation yeah i don't like when that happens i kind of want to answer your your question about what i would do if i became president i don't have an answer do you guys what would you do well i i like this tweet that Vivek put out the other day.

I don't know if he said it would be day one, but I think it should be day one. Immediately fire half of the DC bureaucrats or the civil servants. Or just transfer them. I'm good with firing them. I think if automatically there's half of that, I mean, obviously we could talk about the economic,

I guess, implications of that many people being out of a out of a job but if it's like if the federal government is so huge where we actually need to talk about the economic consequences of that many civil servants losing their jobs then that's a problem in and of itself he was saying layoffs because that bypasses the restrictions you can lay them off for budgetary reasons right and yes absolutely and uh i would i would i would hope that vivek to the extent it is legally humanly and economically possible maximizes those layoffs there's no there's no you know what it is so we were talking last night about schools and i was saying like abolish the doe and get rid of this broken system we had aaron matte on and he was arguing that I'm an exception to the rule. I'm successful.

Not everyone can do that. And my argument is if you don't think or if you think that there is no way to replicate in my success in other people, then what's the point of school? If school can't create a path toward success for people, then what's the point of doing it? And his attitude was basically there's a lot of good teachers who are in these schools. And this is my point. The government funds a project, hires a bunch of people, and then says, OK, this doesn't work, but we can't stop it now because we're addicted to it. We are economically addicted to this industry. If we stop funding schools, we're going to have hundreds of thousands of people out of work.

We can't have it. The economy would collapse. Also because we didn't allow for any competition. I mean, there are private schools or homeschools, things like that. But obviously, predominantly, most people's money are tied up in their taxes, which then go to their public schools. So they rely on them. I mean, education in America is ultimately a failing business.

So it should close. And what it's falsely kept alive. And what Ron Paul said, and it was funny because when we had Ron on the show, I mentioned this to him and he was like, did I say that? He said of the war in, I think it was Afghanistan. They're saying we can't just withdraw because it will cause a bunch of problems. But as a doctor, I know if you prescribe the wrong medication and it is causing problems, you stop the medication. There's no excuse for saying we have to just keep doing it. We are addicted to these government programs.

And the fear is, oh, but if we terminate, we're going to lose all these jobs. Don't know. Don't care. That was it. And especially with education, we can see the outcomes, right? Test scores are going down. I mean, some of the places that have the highest per student funding have the worst results. And I I'm someone who's very pro homeschooling. And the response is always like, oh, your kids aren't going to be able to read. You're not qualified. It's like I mean, we see what the actual results are from kids who are in public schools, public schools that are failing them. It's really hard for it to be worse. Actual Justice Warrior, Sean, he did a video where I think places in Baltimore, like there's a lot of schools where literally zero percent like efficiency. Well, Oregon just did away with their graduation

requirements and they're saying there are learning losses because of COVID. But also that means your system is pretty weak that exactly three years could i mean students really suffered during code for a lot of reasons but it also means that like there was absolutely no effect and effectiveness in online schooling or anything else the teachers that were tasked with having to educate kids kids remotely couldn't do it this means that our system is not adaptable this is not this is not proof that you guys are successful. And I think to Tim's medicine metaphor, you know, Ron Paul, you know, if they're saying this is the thing you take to fix it, you go to public school. The thing is, doctors will then say, oh, you're having side effects

from the medication I gave you. Instead of stopping it, they'll say, take five others, take this other one, take the other one, which is why, you know, we get universal preschool and we get all these other programs. The government is saying we're not effective, but we're going to continue to fund ourselves until we figure out a way to keep this failing system up. And that's that's a disservice to students and their parents. If you gave them I mean, this is why I love school choice. If you gave them the opportunity to spend their monies in a way that better suited their children's needs, because there's no way bureaucrats in Washington know children better than their own parents. They would probably be more effective. Well, that's the problem, though.

The Department of Education and the public school system it exists to benefit teachers to benefit administrators it's not actually to the benefit of the students and much definitely not the benefit of the parents i think one of the things you said um hannah claire exactly that is pretty profound is that the problem that this the school the education system the department of education is that there's no they have a monopoly there's no real viable option if it does shut down like there's not another system where people can just go get jobs there and and bring their kids over there and there should be because the monopoly government monopolies are just as dangerous as private sector monopolies this is this is what i saw in venezuela when you went to go buy a cell phone there were

like six to eight stations i i go to t-mobile in the united states i walk in there's a guy he's like i'm gonna help you guys i want a phone he's like okay he gets his tablet out and he's like which phone do you want he starts typing it all in here's your number and okay it's going to cost this i swipe the card and it's kind of annoying and then you're done in venezuela you they had to create fake jobs for the sake of propping up their fake economy which didn't work obviously so they're mandated to have a person who gets the phone, a person who asks you what kind of phone you want, a person who deals with your phone plan, a person takes the money, a person who writes down the bill. Like you walk in, you'd say, they say, how can I help you?

I would like to buy a new phone. Okay, let me fill out this form for you. Here you go. And go wait in that line. Then you go in another one. It's another person there. And which phone would you like to buy? Okay, fill out this form and then go wait over here. Then a guy takes the form from you. Discover the magic of BetMGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino.

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Please gamble responsibly. Then he says, okay, now go wait over there. Then so it's insane. That's what we're doing right now in this country. And I think you made a good point. I think you brought this up that the government created a monopoly on schools by mass funding it. This is what happens when the government guarantees the income. There's it's almost impossible to compete. But then you'll see things like FedEx, UPS and the Postal Service. Clearly, people don't like using the Postal Service for whatever reason. Right. And you get you get private schools, you get homeschools, you get clubs.

People do have innovation, especially when they see that the system is broken. But it makes me wonder, you know, you'll have student teachers who are promised if you if you work in a public school for X number of years, we'll pay off your student loan debt, which we have also given you because we're the government and we're trying to help you. And I would wonder if it would be more interesting to see those people go off and start, you know, Montessori schools in more places or explore, you know, different opportunities with the degree that they have. I think good teachers are really valuable. It's not to shame all of them, but the government just wants you to stay in its broken system and it's willing to take you down with it if you're a teacher. And I think you're right. A good teacher, a competent teacher is going to flourish even without the public school and the teachers' safety net. And we see that with charter schools and private schools. And there are even, I guess, industrious teachers who are creating their own homeschool curriculums that could be applied to

different homeschool pods. There's a desperate need for teachers who are competent, but I don't think we do those teachers any service by subsidizing the incompetent ones. Yeah, and the government doesn't reward teachers' entrepreneurship. It just beats them back into submission as much as it can until they eventually establish something, which is not good. I want to jump to this story. It's a tweet from the account EndWokeness.

EndWokeness tweets, Target outdid itself this year for Christmas. And the first image I've seen before, it is what I would describe as gay nutcrackers. That is not meant to be derisive. That is quite literally what it is what i would describe as gay nutcrackers okay i'm not that that is not meant to be derisive that is quite literally what it is it is it is a nutcracker which many are familiar with but it's uh blue holding a pride flag with a rainbow hat and then there's a very happy i guess yeti and unicorn and then there's this image which depicts a series of white and black Santa Clauses in wheelchairs

holding presents. Now, OK, when I saw this, I thought this is fake. OK, it was like I think Shoe on Head made a video 10 years ago, a joke about how diversity is going to result in a trans non-binary you know person of color in a wheelchair like that was a joke she made and now i'm seeing this image and so i i i said i don't know about this and so i googled it ladies and gentlemen you can order your santa in a wheelchair holding gift fabric and they have the options of in black or white and now look and it's already on sale how much is it i can't see it uh two

dollars with like seven dollars shipping or something let's find out i almost want to buy a whole bunch of them but i also kind of don't just give them away because i company christmas no because i don't want to support it but yeah look if i was going to buy it it would be like a novelty gag gift making fun of wokeness they're selling selling them legitimately. And it's kind of, it's, look, if you are a otherly abled person of color and you would like to purchase the Santa Claus, then I'm glad the option exists for you. I have no problem with the free market providing.

If there are people who have this lived experience and they would like to be represented on a Christmas tree, then the market shall provide but target as a massive uh i believe they're multinational but a massive national corporation they're there i know australia's got a fake version that they stole from us yeah but uh who are they really selling to the answer is very obvious white liberal women that's who wants to buy this who wants to show their children look anyone can be anything at any time it's uh what they call what are they um impact it's like impact investment but this is like the the the refuse tunnel of the impact investment it's impact sales

they're putting it out in the open for people to see what they want them to think about and they don't even care if these things don't sell probably this is this is so wrong i'm sorry this is so wrong it's they're saying people are saying it's the black it's black paraplegic santa and i'm like this is insulting to people okay they have turned them into a joke and i thought the best question of the night was lauren who asked how is he gonna get his wheelchair down the chimney right it doesn't make any sense i thought i thought somebody was making fun of target making fun of wokeness and then i was like it's real we need to put uh those those ramps but in for christmas everyone needs to get a ramp on their front door otherwise you're discriminating against the fake thing that's a fake version of a guy that's fake no you need a

ramp up to your roof yep it's your chimney but i mean the question is like who specifically is the i mean aside from like white liberal women but it's like a very specific group of people professors maybe little celebrate christmas but also really want to indulge in the wokeness which i feel like is also are we sort of expecting a lot of um you know paraplegic people to suddenly appear on earth like why do we need so many of them this could have been one etsy business that did really well. But instead Target is like, everyone knows someone in a wheelchair, which feels more like disturbing to me. But that's the thing, like with all this woke stuff,

whether it's pandering to women or to black people in wheelchairs who aspire to be Santa, it's not actually about the group they're representing. It's about the activists who see it as a virtue signal. Yeah, I remember as a kid being told that I could be Santa, but it's just a weird thing. Like you have virtue signal yeah i remember as a kid being told that

i could be santa but it's just a weird thing like you have to oh he has to be just like me has to be in a wheelchair too it's like well you know you'd be better flying around the world if you're in a wheelchair it's about that time of year should we talk have the santa debate the santa santa is the santa retire because he's in a wheelchair now no no no listen listen okay ian i know where you're going with this. Do we tell kids if Santa's real? That's what I'm talking about. And I think there's a bigger question now on top of this.

I don't know that we can answer that question until we answer the question of how do you explain to children that there is black paraplegic Santa and white cis heteronormative Santa? No, I'm not telling my kids the only Santa is black and in a wheelchair. No, I'm going to take the FDR approach. We're going we're gonna hide the wheelchair we're gonna just like cover it up constantly no scandal was that santa was always in a wheelchair they're regrowing

why do you think he sits when you take photos with people no no hold on i'll hold on there where's where's black santa with a cochlear implant he could be wearing him he's got thick hair we don't know we can't perhaps where's trans santa yeah he's coming and that's the horror that's the horror of the season now which is like what are you gonna do to poor santa who can't defend himself okay so the marvels just came out right yeah and it bombed it's the worst mcu opening in the marvel franchise history and it's because people just don't care for these woke, bad storylines where they just ham fist in politics. And when, when people started complaining back in the day

about how they like made Anne Boleyn, Anne Boleyn's played like a black woman. And people are like, yo, I don't care about black actors getting lead roles. I care that you're taking historical figures and characters and changing their race like the Little Mermaid. South Park made a really great point about this in the latest show they did, The Pandaverse, the special, where PC Principal is yelling at the kids saying, you just don't like black people. And they're like, no, we don't like that you take an existing character and turn it into a black woman. They were like, Miles Morales is awesome. He's his own character and has like an alternate history storyline they gave him, which we

understand. Like people, like there's a lot of superheroes that have the same superpowers as other superheroes this is gone one step beyond and they're now taking i i it's religious and traditional figures and now race swapping them and it like look i know we've seen this because 10 years ago there was an argument on tumblr whether not beethoven was black and this is what yes absolutely well is he no is he no of course not this is what they tried doing they tried claiming that samus aaron the game character was trans so for those that are familiar samus aaron is the star of the video game metroid the metroid series and at the end of the nes game if you like beat it in the right way or whatever for the credits

it shows the character take the helmet off and it's like super it's like eight eight bit or whatever but there's long blonde hair like aha you played a woman this whole time and it was like oh and if you type in justin bailey as your password you can play as the woman oh zero suit samus you get a the wave gun automatically you start with it in the first one and yes in metroid in the first metroid justin bailey nes yeah really wow cool and so what happens then is a bunch of trans activists are arguing well samus aaron is six foot three and you know like 100 180 pounds therefore that proves samus was actually trans and they tried they tried doing these things they're all they're trying to do is rewrite cultural history and take it over that's part of what is happening right now with

target making black paraplegic santa well i mean mean, sorry, go ahead. You go first. Well, I was going to say to this is a tangent at this point, but to Ian's question about the whole Santa debate, I'm actually very anti-Santa because Santa is not a, I mean, St. Nicholas is a religious figure, but Santa, the modern iteration of Santa is basically just a way to shove consumerism down our throats by people who are not Christians, who are secularists, and who only want to make money. Do you think the people who had designed that Santa are Christians who celebrate Christmas?

Nope. Do you think all the people also vary against Santa movies? Have you noticed that nowadays a Christmas movie, it's all about Santa and gifts and a secular message. It's a way to undermine the Christian. On the Hallmark Channel. On the Hallmark Channel, it's about everyone ending up together, getting married. It's a way to undermine the Christian. The Hallmark Channel is about everyone ending up together getting married.

It undermined the family unit for me because it made me distrust my parents. Not only did they lie to me for 10 years. Yeah. And then I found out I was like,

what else are they lying to me about? It was terrible. They would, I didn't appreciate them every year around Christmas when they would be the ones that would bring me the gifts. It should have been

a bonding experience for the family. And that's this Soviet communist consumer crap splitting up the nuclear family yet again with now your parent can't be the hero this year i think there are really interesting ways to talk about santa because i like the like folklore aspect of it i think it's fun to have like imaginative opportunities for kids uh i wouldn't necessarily introduce this to your kids but david sedaris is the short story author who has a really funny funny essay about at dinner parties he'll ask people as an icebreaker, and what does your country tell you about Santa?

And it changes. And if you haven't heard it, you should definitely look it up. It's really funny. I think it is interesting that I grew up with the Rupert books, which are like a British children's series, and Santa lives on a cloud. And in America, we learn he lives in the North Pole. Like there are ways to talk about this in an interesting way. It's just sad that America's Santa now is like, you know, disabled. I care less about the skin color so much as like, what is he doing?

How is he getting in his sled? Do we have ADA accommodations at the North Pole? You know what I mean? Like it introduces a level of bureaucracy to this like kind of mystical story that other like lots of cultures tell. And it makes us seem lame. I will say. The best is the Tibetan myth of Santa Claus, where they would every winter, their yurts

would get covered up to the chimney and they'd have to climb out the chimney and go to the pine trees. And they'd find these mushrooms growing, these white and red Amanita muscaria. And the reindeer would be eating them. And they'd go and they'd collect the mushrooms. They'd come back. They'd climb down the chimney and then hang the mushrooms up in socks above the fire to dry overnight.

What? And then the next morning they'd boil them and make tea with them. Every culture has like various versions. Yeah, check out the myth of psychedelic Santa. It's crazy. It's all the color is the same. It's the red and white myth. Sorry to interrupt.

From what I understand, the Orthodox Church, they have like the Feast of St. Nicholas that they actually take pretty seriously. So when I say I'm anti-Santa, I'm not anti that, but I don't support. Lauren Chen personally hates Santa. Yeah. I don't support modern consumerist, especially black wheelchair Santa. Who is St. Nicholas? What do you do? You know what?

That is a good. I can answer that. Yeah. St. Nicholas was a, I don't know exactly where it was. Somewhere in Eastern Europe is what they think. Somewhere like Turkey. People have said like the actual story

comes from. You're right about the Amanita Mascaria stuff. I've heard about that as well regarding like the color, like the red and white and everything like that. But apparently like

it had to do with like he was a dude that went around and helped some girl get a dowry to get married I think initially. And then I became part of- Santa supports marriage.

He's so trash. This is the best thing I've ever heard i ship this i i'm i'm wondering what the lore is as to how santa became paraplegic well if he is nose didn't go off and he got bucked out of the sled that's what i said like this is insulting to people like yeah the implication is that santa had some kind of terrible accident or he's faking it rough or he's just getting older maybe maybe i was gonna go with he's getting older you know he's got some some arthritis in his knees from climbing up and down the chimney so maybe it's time to retire santa

and then they'll introduce mrs claus or just call her santette or something i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with uh santa did a 720 on the mega ramp and then when he was going up for a Vario 540 he clipped the coping and flipped forward shattering his ankles and so it's not a permanent thing and he's not a paraplegic it's just that he's got serious leg damage because he was in the X Games last year

this year he needs a wheelchair that makes it sound tougher I like that version of American Santa how about Santa got shot down flying over Eastern Europe? That's more like I thought you were going to say Santa did 9-11. You're going to blame Putin for Santa's wheelchair injury. That's rude. I mean, you could like merge all of the current things, right?

Black trans Santa is only disabled because it was actually Vladimir Putin ordered Santa be shot down. Right. And that's why we have to send money to Ukraine. Could be a rally around the flag. That finally makes sense to me. He hates Christmas. This is what we thought at first.

But new intelligence suggests it was Hamas that actually shot him. Hamas killed Christmas. So now we've got to provide funding for Israel. Did you guys grow up with a Christmas movie, Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer? Of course. It's like, you guys need to watch it immediately. I can't wait for the Christmas season. Yeah, like Santa killed a lady, right? What? Well, then she's like you guys need to watch it immediately i can't wait for the christmas yeah like santa killed a lady right what well she's like in a hospital being taken

care of by elves don't spoil it for people you guys get to watch it this christmas season you should check it out but it'll be like that except it'll be like who shot santa claus you know you never heard the songs uh grandma got run over by i've heard that song before it's like and then they made a movie i guess i don't know which came first. I only knew the movie first. The song is by Elmo and Patsy from 1979. Yeah, the gag is that you can say there's no such thing as Santa, but as for me and Grandpa, we believe.

Yeah. Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer Walking Home from My House Christmas Eve. It's a classic Christmas tale. Yeah, I thought everybody knew that one. You know, to put a little Christmas cheer into this conversation, they figured out at Rice University

how to weave nanothreads, carbon nanothreads, through broken, severed spine. And then the spine finds itself and regrows back together. And they've got mice with completely severed spines that are able to walk again. So what you're saying is Santa may walk again. Tim, would you rather have a Target insemination kit or a Target paraplegic black Santa for Christmas? I'm just wondering. I would love to just, like, here's the problem. I would love to buy a thousand

of the black paraplegic Santas to give as gifts, but to make fun of Target and Wokeness. And the problem is I don't want to give money to people who are serious. Yeah. You know, if it was like the end Wokeness account announced they were selling these things as jokes, I'd buy a bunch of them and give them out to people.

But the fact that Target is legitimately selling these things makes me be like well i don't want to give them money now what if you bought it on etsy you pick up some of lauren's soap and then some paraplegic santas i figured it out target's trying to play both sides they know that people who think it's hilarious will buy it to make fun of them and they're going to make money either way people who genuinely support it will also buy it. Target is ultimately on its own side with capitalism. Yeah. The market shall provide.

There is a market for us to buy Black Paraplegic Santa because it's a mockery of woke ideology and we think it's funny. I would just really like to see photos from, you know, like probably December 24th, maybe, you know,

into January of people and their clearance section at Target and see how much these are selling for then. Well it is it that's where all their best progressive stuff goes or lows where they actually have the black blow up santas no how big they're like the big ones that you put on the front yard oh wow i i saw i forget where we were last year but i saw those and i was like all right i like the pictures of japanese jesus no wacky waving waving inflatable unflaying tube man. Wack Jesus you like? No, no. They do have a dancing

58 inch African American dancing Santa at Lowe's. Dancing Santa? I bet the dancing is good. He's $200. I will buy both. He's animatronic, not inflatable.

But maybe that's... But maybe they have more. Maybe all kinds of stuff. Okay, well, ladies and gentlemen, it's not yet Christmas. Thanksgiving is in a week. We're excited for this.

It sure is. And I do have a Christmas present for all of you. This is from the Post Millennial. Republican wins Loudoun County Commonwealth attorney race against Soros-funded incumbent after infamous gender-neutral school bathroom rape scandal. Now, that headline is a mouthful. Holy crap. Loudoun County is across street

from us um technically it's the river yeah it's across the river from us i say across street but you know like it's down the street you know it's down i mean technically yeah it's right over the hill so it's right there but uh so we know we actually know a lot of people who are involved with what's going on and it's a very very mixed left and right county. But seeing this is actually tremendous. It's not the first time we've seen Soros DAs get basically fired. And it's just, it's all around good news. I think we look at stuff like this. We take a look at the Marvels failing.

We take a look at Bud Light failing. We take a look at all these things. Y'all, we are winning. The Marvels collapse, hilarious. I love that this movie failed. We are winning the culture war. People are love that this movie failed we are winning the culture war people are waking up to this i had the honor and privilege of meeting the mother of one of the students at the loudon county high school that was protesting males in the girls bathroom and so we we had a good conversation about it and and i was excited to meet this

this person uh her family has been pushing back and speaking up. And I'm like, this is exactly what we need. Now we can see Loudoun County maybe paving the way for pushing the stuff out. What's happening is you've got these urban woke people from D.C. moving westward into the more rural areas and trying to bring their chaos with them. But the people are starting to resist and push it all back. So as we see all these crazy videos look at this we got a bunch of these stories here's one a group of brazen thieves loot amazon

delivery truck as helpless delivery driver looks on you've all seen this they're just ransacking and i don't know where this is where what the location is i don't know if they say but the point is we have a bunch of examples of this here's one firefighters attacked by mob after responding to deadly car crash crime is out of control and i don't know if it's that you know a lot of people play these stats games so they're like crime's actually on the way down but that doesn't take into consideration what type of crime they're referring to and could it be that the reason crime is down is because people are too scared to go outside or because they made it legal like in san francisco exactly you can rob 800 bucks and it's not that's that's exactly

it so in san francisco where they're like we're actually seeing crime on the decline yeah people just stop reporting it because they know it's not going to be taken seriously yep yeah i think ultimately there is um i like these stories about people winning and doing something because it's so discouraging when you're when you're in san francisco and your target has nothing out because people keep shoplifting i think it's one of the doors that opens up well why don't i just take something you know what i mean and we like to see the representation of a community saying no these are our values and you assimilate to them or you don't come here that was part of one of the things i like about ron de santis is he stood up and was like if there are looters they will be shot you

will be do not loot they will issue shooting on command to anyone trying to loot and it was like right away after a disaster what was it a flood or something a hurricane hurricane and no looting this is the most important aspect of this bibiraj is notorious in loudon county that's the the attorney for having her office stick convictions for disorderly conduct on scott smith the dad who was arrested for confronting a school board in a June 2021 meeting after his daughter was raped in a high school in a female restroom by a biological male in a skirt. So let me just say this guy, his daughter is raped and he shows up to school and he's furious. They end up arresting him. And this lady has him criminally charged.

And now she is fired. Feeling good. I would like to interview the new, who is it? It's a lawyer, the attorney, Commonwealth attorney. Yeah, Bob Anderson. Cool.

How long is Bob? Mr. Anderson. How long is Bob's current term? I don't know. Well, that's a good move, Bob. What are you going to do different? Do you think this is the kind of thing though that, and this is a little bit cynical of me,

where people will get excited about this one race and then they'll forget that they have to go out and be active and do it in their communities complacent yeah well the point is when you know there's two factions on a field when one side starts breaking and faltering you don't say okay pack it in guys you say charge and now now it is time to as the the woke lunatics retreat from the the the hilltop of culture abandoning movie franchises abandoning the stories that we know and love we storm in and plant our flag and replace what they have tried to destroy this is a legitimate route cultural route sometimes when the enemy breaks you want to let them flee because you don't want to run into a potential trap. But this is not a potential trap.

This is legitimate sea change. Right. Because Ian's seen The Patriot with Mel Gibson. Good movie. At the end of the fight when Cornwallis is like, is that militia making their center? And then they're like, they start running away. And then once they go over the hill, that's the Continental Army waiting to trap them and then unloads on the British. Hannibal did it to the Romans.

They call it the hammer and anvil tactic where you feign a retreat and then unloads on the british yeah you know hannibal did it to the romans they call it the hammer and anvil tactic where you you feign a retreat and then they charge it and that's your anvil and then you come around and flank them from behind as your hammer well i think this is if nothing else proof that focusing on the cultural issues they actually can change policy and they actually have political consequences because i don't know about you folks but i often see especially establishment conservatives republicans saying this doesn't matter like this is too divisive. We don't want to get stuck in the weeds with this. Well, actually, these are winning issues. We see that. Like, parents, go figure, don't want their kids to have to worry about sexual assault in the locker room. Right. They actually care about that. Can you imagine? Yeah, that'll get people out to the

polls. And especially like we see how motivated, especially suburban moms are when it comes to the issue of like what's happening in schools. So think if next year if republicans are worried about the suburban mom vote we actually need to keep hitting this issue we need to go harder on it and not back away i actually feel like one of the ways they could do that is by pushing like there are a lot of states that have these laws they'll get marketed or they'll get written about as they're um they're anti-gender affirming and whatever else but really if you look it, a lot of times they are people voting against or judges overturning rules that say you can't tell parents about what's going on

with their kids in school. And I think even progressive parents would want to know if their children are going by different programs. And it starts to be like this unifying issue. Like if a child makes a choice in school like that, any parent would want to know. You can't decide arbitrarily who is dangerous and who is not and whose kids are secret about this.

And you know what I mean? Like there are ways to continue to push this issue. Loudoun County is so unique because they had that specific case. But there are other parents who would get behind. I need to know what's going on with my kids, especially. You know what I think is going to convince a lot of suburban women to vote for the likes of Donald Trump, or at least someone more right leaning is in the event that they have, uh, male children explaining to them the late 2010s history of the false accusations, mattress girl, all of these stories in the me too movement.

And, uh, when you, when you see this degree of wokeness right now i think what's worrying for mothers and fathers who have daughters is this story about what happens to this guy but what's what's as worrying to a parent who has a male child right the destruction of your son's life because woke people can lie about him a kism of racism bigotry assault or otherwise and there will be no there will be no due process there will be no innocent until proven guilty. They will destroy this person's life. These are the things we need to stop. Due process is legit.

And it seems so basic, so it doesn't. Until proven guilty. Well, I definitely support due process, but there's this also interesting tension in a way between due process and freedom of speech. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Tommy Robinson, but one of the many legal issues that he's had in the UK was reporting on, I think it was like a grooming gang, forgive me in the comments if I get this wrong, but reporting on a grooming gang trial. And the UK had it that there was a moratorium in the press because the official reason was that they wanted due process. They didn't want these people's names slandered if they were found innocent.

People who are critical of it say, actually, it's to basically hide the fact that mass migration has led to an increase in sexual assaults. But what do you guys think about kind of that issue? Are we allowed to talk? Does that due process after a certain point mean that we need to clamp down on freedom of the press if it means publishing these allegations that are unfounded? Like, how do we deal with that? We have civil tort to deal with defamation and sliable and these things the uh defamation libel slander the problem is times v sullivan and uh in many ways there's pros and there's cons to what's called anti-slap strategic lawsuits against public participation

basically anyone can say whatever they want about anyone else, so long as they're all famous. And it's impossible to win a defamation case. Impossible. Unless it falls into what's called defamation per se, where what you've said is so shocking and egregious that damages aren't needed and the defamation in and of itself warrants just, you know, pursuit.

Like, I guess the issue would be if i claimed ian kicked a dog well i don't know you know did i know it was false is the question in times v sullivan and if ian tried to sue me claiming that it'd get thrown out what if you claim that i was running a puppy mill and like slaughtering animals and like not paying my taxes it'd be like i mean that's that's actually i mean i don't i don't even think that would qualify it'd be like if you said i was a rapist then that would be definition per se or that you had a contagious disease but killing dogs isn't enough nope probably not contagious disease is one is there like a list of criminal criminal activity yes there's a list it's criminal

activity contagious disease and something so morally shocking and reprehensible or whatever like calling someone a pedo is defamation per se it's crazy i tried to do the killing the dogs but it's just not reprehensible enough i guess in this society dark yeah well because there are act like pita kills dogs right it's true yes they do right and so that's not considered to be so morally outrageous that it would be shocking to people to claim because it's something that happens there are kill shelters so if you if you said that ian was an evil person who was running a puppy mill that kills dogs they'd say okay well is that an opinion statement about a puppy mill we don't we don't know if this warrants that you know a level of going a lot going to court over it yeah i think one of the questions with freedom

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Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul, accused of getting into a fight with a male prostitute over a drug deal gone wrong. And of course, people are going to be like, OK, well, hold on. We know that story. That's a big leap. I didn't say it was true. And I didn't say I said it. I said he was accused of it. That's a fact statement. So if I report that Paul Pelosi was accused of getting into a fight with a gay prostitute, then that is a factual fact statement. That is a true statement. He was accused of that by a whole bunch of people on the internet. Doesn't mean it's true. I never said it was true. I said he was accused of it. That's a fact. And what's really tricky with journalists is that they really only need one person to make that accusation to be able

to write that headline. Exactly. But realistically, it should be someone in the legal system making a legitimate, like an official accusation. No, no. Which would be a charge. There are activists, attorney generals everywhere who will levy all kinds of stuff against you. I mean, I'm allowed to accuse Joe Biden of taking bribes. And I think everyone's going to agree like, yeah, he probably did. There's no official government determination so far. Members of the Republican Party have presented evidence

that they say asserts this, but it's not been like adjudicated. I think we're still allowed to come out and say that he is a corrupt MF-er who is taking bribes when i look at the word accused the definitions they all all the definitions are to charge with a shortcoming to charge formally to make a charge of wrong so if you're not charging them literally that means you don't have the legal authority it's not technically an accusation i mean but i mean if someone no it also says to claim that someone has done something wrong yeah it can get a little vague the thing is if i accuse someone of doing

something or if someone is like, charges are brought against someone, theoretically, if you're being ethical, you present evidence that might contradict the point that seems obvious. Like if the government says, you know, you burned down a building, I would potentially say there are other people and I would get a statement from you. But if you're trying to present information

honestly, you're supposed to represent multiple points of views and possibilities. But that's not really how it works anymore. But it doesn't matter. I mean mean the definition of accused is to claim someone has done something wrong yeah that's it i guess maybe there could be an official accusation like a capital a and that's like when it's a legitimate accusation from like someone with authority as opposed to all this nonsense being slung on the issue is people are evil the issue is as a culture we used to have scruples and people were like i can't lie in the newspaper like i feel so bad.

I'd be scared. Like, well, how could I? I couldn't get away with that. Now everyone's just like, I don't care what happens to you. I'm going to do whatever I want. Yeah. And in our defamation cases, the victim has to prove malice that that person acted with the intention of destroying your reputation. Which if you were to be like, hey, New York Times, you printed something false about me.

And they could be like, whoops, we didn't know. Slash, we didn't do it. Slash, we don't care. Then you can't prove malice. And then what happens is really difficult you go to court and you say they defamed me and they'll file a motion to dismiss under anti-slap legislation or times whatever and the judge has to then agree discovery is warranted so you have to provide some evidence they may have like you this is the crazy thing in order to actually sue your actual mal standard in

times we solved it is that the person doing this the libel libel or slander knew what they were saying was false which means if someone in the press lies or here's my favorite if someone tweets a thing and it was a joke a news organization can take that run it as fact and then say oh but we thought it was real and how do you prove that they knew that it wasn't, like, that's a paper trail that will almost never exist? Internal communications where they're like, well, gee, I know this is not true, but run it anyway, which exactly doesn't exist. Yeah, it would never exist almost. Yep. But civil tort, not criminal.

Yeah. So I guess you get what you get. But, you know, I guess going back to the main story. We got to jujitsu this because false accusations can bring down nations. If like you like the Soviet Union would go around accusing people, accusing people, accusing people, take them away without a without a trial or any kind of process. Well, it reminds me of America today. And it's kind of annoying because technically it is you're not allowed to like make a false police report or anything like that but when it comes to like all of these like me too cases or even just the run-of-the-mill a sexual assault allegation where that results in a charge where

the man is found innocent or not guilty you would think that if there's a person coming saying that this person like assaulted me and the man is then then found not guilty then that shouldn't all of those cases uh lead to some sort of investigation into a false police report but that almost never happens some people suggest that the accuser serves the sentence that the accused would have served if they find out that it was a false accusation i think i mean i definitely think that there should be some sort of legal punishment for trying to ruin someone's life vindictively and using weaponizing the legal system i think it it should be worse. So if somebody's accused like if a guy

commits sexual assault and the and the and the charge is going to be like 10 years or something then if it's a false accusation it should be 15. The reason being it

was it's one thing for someone to commit a crime and then have the government the law enforcement and the court system seek to bring some kind of justice and stop this person as an offender. All of that is legitimate practice. If the person is falsely accusing someone, two crimes are being committed, one against law

enforcement and the government and one against the individual who's falsely accused. And so we seek deterrence. We don't want people to try and use law enforcement as a weapon against people through false accusations. So that's an entirely separate crime. So they should serve the sentence of the person of what would have been for the person they accused. And they should get an additional charge over the manipulating and falsifying government, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. The only prominent example I can think of of someone getting their just desserts for trying to weaponize the legal system is Jussie Smollett. What happened? Barely. I mean, but he at least there was a trial thing he ended up like you know it was a nothing burger but still there was at least i mean when was the last time

you remember someone being charged with like lying and leading police he's still to this day is maintaining it really happened he did an interview with uh was it charlemagne i think it was and he was like that's what they said and he was like really like yeah he's like okay yeah but what else is he gonna do honestly he's got to go down with that ship because if if he admitted it was wrong it's almost worse for if he admitted right away he'd be back by now yeah if right when it went down he said look we were trying to bring awareness and we were trying to you know make people a performance art piece no he could have said me and my friends said to stage this because we felt like other stories of other victims weren't getting any national attention and only a celebrity could

bring to light the injustice that were happening i regret what we did i'm sorry i deceived everybody and i accept the punishment yeah and then like he's going to jail or whatever his charges are i guess that's what he's really scared of he doesn doesn't want to be a felon. But we are years past this now and people would be like, oh, okay. And seriously, his PR team should have said, own it and claim the issue is like, here's what I, if I was a PR guy for Smollett, I'd immediately do a Google search for some kind of racist hate crime. And then I would have Justice Smollett be like, when I saw this story and that no one cared, i knew the

only way to get the attention of the press was for a high profile celebrity to do it so that's why i decided to stage this event and i regret it or you could say like i stage it to bring attention to this case now that oh yeah now that everyone's talking about it you should tell me exactly i'm coming forward i'm going ahead and getting in front of it i want you all to know now this didn't happen to me but it did happen to this person you know you know we should have been on his crisis team it would have been way more based if he came out and said like right away like yes i am just as malette i have staged this hate crime why every year over 800 false hate crimes are reported and people are lying every single day then people that everyone on the right would have been like oh wow based

he's really uh checkmated us here i don't know what to do with that 40 chess i mean one of the complaints that that chicago had was that he wasted resources right so that would still follow him but maybe he would just make a nice donation to cover the cost of his you know false allegations there is a way to spin this i think part of it is that he liked being you know celebrated as this victim and i think that kind of attention is very hard to develop especially since i don't think he'll really act again at this point yeah i wonder i wonder where he is now especially with the israel palestine stuff because like there are a lot so there are a lot of celebrities that hitch their wagons to the woke left and now they're regretting it could you imagine being justice malette and destroying your entire career over this attempt

at like anti-trump nonsense only to find out that you're on the wrong side of whatever this is. He's in the entertainment industry. A lot of the people who are running it are going to be more pro-Israel and then all the leftists who would have supported him if his hate crime worked were going to be anti-pro-Palestine. So it's like, good luck, buddy! At least for Ethan Klein, he can get up and

leave the room. Ryan Long did a great skit about that. The actor who's not knowing whether to post pro-palestine or pro-israel yeah it's incredible he's always had a stance you know i said it before i'll say it again it must be a horrible way to live to be on the left yeah yeah oh my gosh i almost fell into it man in la i was an actor until i was like 27 and it was just shredding my soul and then when i got when youtube appeared i was like you can i can actually speak my mind and i can make a career out of it.

The modern version of the left, right? It's really simple for people like me and many others who are like, quote unquote, disaffected liberals or post liberal or whatever, where it's just like we maintain our positions and we don't care about what the left wants to do. And so we get excised. We get kicked out. It's like, whatever. I don't care. Screw you guys but i have to imagine the people like ethan klein who decided i'm just going to agree with whatever they're saying that dude must be stressed out for the past month and a half since the hamas thing happened and

everybody on his show is just screaming in his face and calling him a zionist pig he's probably thinking like it's the end the right will not have him he's he's a shill he's sold out you know and the left hates his guts because he's he's like pro-israel and it's not just that he was trying to hitch his wagon to the left he chose hassan piker and to try and leave off like that is not just the left like that is some of the most like radical like literal communists out there i gotta i gotta pull this clip I got to pull this clip up. I got to pull this clip up. Let me see if I can find it.

Have you just, cause it's from a little while ago, but I think it just needs to be talked about. I'm endlessly fascinated by these guys. Let's play this. This is a, this is a clip from the leftovers podcast, Hassan Piker and Ethan Klein.

This is a Twitter account. It's just at Dan. I don't know who runs the account. It seems, you know, anonymous, but I'm going to play this clip for you guys. Palestinians, and this is going to sound very radical and possibly very violent, but this is a matter of law, and maybe even if you agree with this, a matter of morality.

Palestinians have the legal ground to violently seize back their own homes from the settlers. This is a reality, and that is precisely the reason why they have to exist under endless occupation. You know what? And that's why I say, if it was settlers, that would be a lot more understandable. But let's not obfuscate, okay? I understand what you're saying. But this dude just called babies militants. No, I understand.

And there are baby settlers as well. There are baby settlers as well. There are babies in the settlements. But the babies that killed weren't. They were not. I know. Okay, so let's... So here's the...

No, no, hold on. Let me... Can we just... I'll play that one more time for you. Occupation in the West Bank. You know what? And that's why I say, if it was settlers, that would be a lot more understandable. He says, Hassan says, Palestinians have a right to violently seize back the land

that was taken by settlers then ethan klein says yes if it was settlers but this guy saying babies and hassan goes but some of the babies are settlers basically saying this there is justification for the killing of babies uh like this is hasan piker is pure audience capture this is what he represents he says whatever is going to get favor among the people who are chatting to him and that that's all it is he like what what the left is rather insulting like they're other condescending to him too but this is abject evil well i mean unquestionably to To play devil's advocate, we don't know what comes after that.

So what I'm hoping Hassan does is explain that that wouldn't be justified. Therefore, the Israeli targeting of Palestinian babies is also not justified in light of the October 7th attacks. That's what I'm hoping came after that. I don't know. You're shaking your head like no.

Yeah, because look at the Yale professors that settlers are not civilians. Yeah, I really I agreed, agreed, agreed. If in fact, the longer clip in the full context shows Hassan say there is no excuse ever for killing babies. And I recognize that then. OK, for for the sake of just this, we will be very clear in that regard hasan calling babies settlers while justifying hamas killing settlers is a horrifying thing in and of itself and i hope i hope he's clarified later on that that's that he does not support the killing of babies and i almost never say this but i feel for ethan uh over the past few weeks, the clips I've been seeing, because Ethan is I would say very moderate, especially

for an Israeli about the situation. He's actually donated money to help Palestinians. He acknowledges that he does not support Israeli settlements, so that's not where they're actually getting. You don't think he is? Ethan Klein was an edgy boy on the internet who made crude jokes

way back in the day. No, but you don't think he's moderate on the Israel who made crude jokes way back, way back in the day. No, but you don't think he's moderate on the Israel. No, I don't. I think that he hitched his wagon to the left because many. So he's not a political guy. He knows nothing of politics. He's thrust into this because Donald Trump and the culture wars turned politics into

pop culture. So now if you're somebody, if you look at his original YouTube channel where he did silly jokes, it was in decay. It was falling apart. He launches a podcast channel and now it's more conversations. He has Jordan Peterson on his show and they're having a great conversation. Why? It was in, it was, it was in, it was trendy.

It was the thing to do. The intellectual dark web. Then as things start splitting more seriously in the culture war, he decides he's going to go left. What does he do? He tweets, Jordan Peterson's not a good guy. So I'm going to take the episode down. The only reason Ethan Klein comes out and acts moderate on Israel is because he's desperately

trying not to get canceled by the left. So you think he's do you think he's a Zionist and hiding it? No, no, no, no, no. But I think he's probably somewhat pro-Israel. He outright said Hamas is lying. The left believes outright Hamas propaganda and uh historical revisionism his wife is israeli and again again i'm pretty sure she was in the idf veteran it is confirmed that we're for sure for sure 100 idf veteran and so he's thinking like sure i mean he may not be a zionist but he's certainly like yeah israel

like he's pro-israel yeah he comes out and says I'm gonna donate to Palestinians and stuff because his entire audience is this but that's why I feel bad for him because he is trying to I mean in this one regard he is trying to I guess like be as I don't know

building bridges as much as he can but they're still not accepting it and I can't help but feel for him in that let me let me just stress there have been many times in the show where ian and i have been mad at each other and we've we've gone at it i would not ever sit down next to a person who says yeah but babies are settlers i'd be like are you nuts yeah you're not gonna sit right here and tell me you think killing baby i'll take it up to the edge of that but no because like in vietnam seven-year-olds had grenades and baskets and they'd walk up to the american soldier and then they'd blow them up so they had to start shooting seven child but babies

are they don't move they just lay there they just take them captive at the very least they lay there and they cry and ethan klein is sitting there actually having a discussion with this guy and the fact that the show didn't stop on the spot when he said that, I would have been like, no, no, no, no. Tell me right now you are not saying what you are saying. Ethan's just like, well, I mean, come on. And they go back and forth a little bit. I'm sorry. I think Ethan Klein saw his waning Internet presence and decided I got to choose a side.

I'm going to go with the left because that's what celebrities are doing. And that's what I guess we do because it was not a principle-based decision nor a knowledge-based one. You take a look at when Steven Crowder wanted to have a conversation with Ethan. So what did Ethan do? Brought in Sam Seder and totally pulled a stunt because he is not a political guy and even says it. Then why the is he doing leftovers anyway? Well, congratulations, dude. You had an opportunity to sit with Jordan Peterson and have a conversation with someone who is very moderate, open and understanding. Jordan Peterson's famous interview with I think it was Jim Jeffries, where Jeffrey says, do you think the government should mandate, you know, that people provide service? It was known. It was what about black people like civil rights? And Jordan Peterson goes, you know, maybe I was wrong about that because he's a smart, rational guy. And Ethan Klein had that opportunity and could have gone

that middle of the road route where he says, y'all are crazy. Chill out. I'm going to talk to who I want to and believe what I want to believe. Instead, he told people like us, like Jordan Peterson, to F off your bigots and racist and misogynists. And he hitched his wagon to people who are who are calling him a Zionist pig celebrating Hamas. I'm not saying Palson. I'm drawing a distinction. And a dude who quite literally said, but babies are settlers. That's what Ethan Klein decided to buy into.

Congratulations, buddy. This is what you reap. You reap what you sow. My wonder is like, Ethan, I feel like, what's up, dude? Your intelligence is probably like a 12. Like it's not super high or like a little bit, it's like above average intelligence,

but charismatic dude. Like he's got charisma but like the intellect isn't like top level genius so i'm not drawn to like connecting with him i like to talk with scientists but that doesn't mean that we leave people like that behind like he's so influential in society i want to help him i think this is a really interesting um internet frenemies moment to have, because I think it's actually probably what's going to happen when many progressive families assemble for Thanksgiving. Right. They're going to have to look at each other. And instead of it being like conservative uncle yells at, you know, progressive nephew. Oh, it's going to be Israel versus Palestine, baby. And it's going to be people who think they're on the same side, these that look apart and say like but why are you saying this thing and i can't and and like i think a lot of people have this moment we're saying they'll have sort of extremist rhetoric brought to them like this like

the justification of how and if and when you should potentially harm children in this conflict obviously the answer is never uh and have to confront these people they think they have everything in common with i think this is a really interesting moment of reckoning and I think because these are well-known personalities, you can see where the bifurcation is, but people are going to experience this in their real lives very soon. Right, and I mean just this past month alone I've seen Ethan Klein cry on camera at least twice. Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. He had to get up from the stream. I saw that. I didn't know he was crying. Oh yeah, well and that's why I think this is also why I feel bad for him. I don't think he's being as calculated or at least not to this. He was he actually broke down in tears talking about a video he saw of a Palestinian father clutching his dead child.

Yeah. When he was talking to Hassan. That got me, too. I mean, obviously, it was terrible. And I think he is someone who is ultimately an empathetic person. Yeah. I don't think he's evil. And I think he is seeing the horrors of this war

but you can't deny that yeah he has he this is his bed and he's he's been trying to capitalize on these people who are now turning on him because obviously they would eventually it's the banality of evil yeah it's that when he deleted that jordan peterson episode and then publicly condemned jordan peterson i'm like yeah that was the weakest yeah that that's that that is when you see that photo of all the people doing the roman salute to hitler and the one guy's angrily like no that's the defiance that we respect the person who says i am not going to just do what these people are saying he was the guy doing the salute you know he was just one of those other people who's like i'm just gonna do whatever they tell me to do because i don't want to i don't want to get

into a fight reliant on his community surrounded social cues. Surrounded by evil. Surrounded by evil people who would, like, listen, if you are someone who thinks that Israel is taking it too far and they're killing too many civilians, I hear you. If you're someone who thinks Hamas went too far and they started this on October 7th, granted the fight's been going on for generations, then I hear you. If you're going to sit there and say, but babies are settlers. Like, dude, you are way past that point. I have no idea. There's, that line itself is insane. but babies are settlers like dude you've you are way past that point i have no idea there's that

line itself is insane even if after the fact he says all right i get it babies shouldn't die or whatever but like the babies are settlers means he intended to to get to that point morally yeah no and that's i've been kind of blackpilled on twitter because i've seen people kind of argue also that well the the palestinian babies it's it's basically just a future terrorist that's being killed oh absolutely it's nuts i feel just in general the past month i've seen the worst of humanity on social media on both sides the people calling uh the individual who said the only reason not to nuke gaza is that the fallout would would impact israelis bethany mandel yeah insane yeah that's like derangement that is that is a degree of psychotic evil i just but look

always when everyone's just like israel this past and then i'm like i'm the united states like i don't know why we're involved in that so i'll leave it there the point is though when it comes to left versus right in this country and the fight we're seeing in the breakdown of the left dude ethan could have a lot of people said like why did he go into this leftist camp where you can't be funny and you have to be walking on eggshells he was always like this edgy dude who made offensive jokes he interviewed jordan peterson he used to say i you can't even say him on youtube he used to say several racist and homophobic slurs oh yeah there's a fairly long compilation clip out there of all the slurs that he's dropped

on his channel over the years and he decided i better align with these people who hate my guts i mean that's the thing he i he might be empathetic he might have emotional attachments but this is like his business now is to be saying the right thing to the right people and i can't imagine audience capture exactly like there's there's nothing he can do to change it and I think in some ways it would be more interesting to see a version of this where there's principle there's principle behind it saying like well you know I believe this but you guys like to be whatever or I have these certain standards but he compromises himself and I don't really follow his stuff that intensely but he repeatedly compromises what you think could be his value discover the magic of bad mgm, where the excitement is always on deck.

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a sit down where they both talked about their perspective on Israel-Palestine. And I thought at least that exchange of ideas where they both clearly were trying to remain friends through that, I thought that was useful. And especially when it comes to Israel-Palestine, it's not just the left that's having this like internal breakdown. The right is too, right? Because you do have the neocons and the more dissident anti-war populists, right? And we're having our own schism as well. Oh, yeah, Ben Shapiro calling Candace Owens disgrace. Right. Or saying that the things she said are disgraceful. Right, even though Candace has been very consistent

that she wants to worry about America. And basically all she tweeted out was that governments should not engage in genocide, which if you believe that Hamas is the elected government of Palestine is also applicable to both sides. Dude, I'm concerned with having American aircraft carriers over there. Like I keep being told about the USS Liberty.

That's something with the Israeli government. You should be careful about that one. Allegedly, the Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft. I mean, they did end up paying out the American government. So I'm concerned like false flag operation, like a missile comes out of Gaza and hits one of our aircraft carriers, but it was actually an Israeli missile. We should get out of there. Let me stop you there.

It doesn't matter where the missile comes from. If a missile comes out of the Middle East in any capacity and hits a U.S. target, everyone will claim it was exactly what they want it to be. The U.S. military will say Iran did it. The pro-Palestinians will say israel did it the the uh the pro-israel will say hamas did it yeah if it comes out of a foreign country other than israel then it'll be like hard to deny oh no no

it doesn't matter where it comes from the the u.s will say iran did it right when when when uh well if it comes out of tel aviv it's going to be hard to sell that but i know it came out of tel aviv how do you know you read the news i mean exactly and you's going to be hard to sell that. But prove it came out of Tel Aviv. How do you know? You read the news. I mean, exactly. And you are going to get American intelligence agencies going to news organizations saying, tell them it came out of Gaza. I don't think the Americans want their carrier to be hit as a false flag. Maybe the USS Liberty thing was an accident.

Well, that's the controversy over it, is that the Israeli government claims it was an accident. But Jocko Willink, I think, interviewed some survivors who say that they don't think it was an accident. So was it a false flag? That's why people talk about it. Did America get involved in the 1967 war after that?

No, because it ended up being really short. But we are going to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and head over to TimCast.com, click join us if you'd like to hang out in the uncensored members-only show coming up at 10 p.m. where you can submit questions and actually talk to us and our guests.

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I shot for a second today. Did I get it? You did not. You got first. You overshot. Even when he's nickname to me. Howdy, Clint. I shot for second today. Did I get it? You did not. You got first. You overshot. Even when he's trying to be second, he's still first. Wow. No one to fold him.

Alpha Turkey says, Ian, the Canaanites were Phoenicians who, like the far left, worshiped Moloch. That's hot data. Is that true? I don't know. I'd have to reference it. Alex Conrad says, you should invite Nerd Roddick on the culture war. That is a very good suggestion.

And we will. Is that Gary? Yeah. He's spectacular. One Evil Chef says, Darmok when the walls fell. Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. Yeah. There were several other key phrases, if you guys remember them.

Put them in the chat. What was that in reference to? Star Trek. Star Trek. Oh. Yep. It was a culture that could only speak in uh in like stories oh so they would convey all of their ideas by saying a phrase from a story so

like a society of old people no i don't know it was just i don't know how it would actually function but the people are like shrugging like when the walls fell when the walls and it's like what are you saying and they're like in their mind it conveys the full idea of what they're trying to explain in the context what do we got ramon g stanley jr says tim at great risk i tell you this i'm fixing a ram on your skateboard when i get an atomic elbow from the top ropes i wake up to ian ripping his shirt off flexes so hot says you tell tim you do let you do you leftist i have no idea what you mean is that raymond g stanley yes you de left is he typing with his elbows he might have been actually no but i will rip my shirt off dude i imagine it must have been with the elbows all right let's grab some

more super chats the aries knight says in reference to yesterday's guest unhoused implies something was taken away this is leftist manipulation to evoke an emotional response i think the reason they started saying unhoused is the implication that everyone should have a house communism yeah because you could call them stray stray humans they've strayed from the path but that doesn't mean they were supposed to have a house homeless could imply like home uh what what what is what is the the poem um a home is where your family is a house is a you know a container or something like this and so when when you say someone's homeless you're saying they don't have anywhere to say sleep safely the left is trying to distinguish uh are not distinguish uh well yes they're trying to make a distinction

between there could be someone who lives in a shack that's their home and their family's there but it's not a house and so they're unhoused which means they should have a house were you guys talking about uh the san francisco cleanup for yes yeah yep and i said why are you saying unhoused i find it offensive as someone who's actually done uh work with homeless shelters and trying to help homeless people it is offensive to call them unhoused uh i just it's it's leftist it's also inaccurate because it assumes that if you just give them shelter then the problem is gone which is what they're trying to do but you still have that basically plethora of likely problems including addiction maybe mental illness that will follow them i think i i genuinely here's here's a here's a problem that we face. You know, when I talk to

the likes of Stephen Marsh and he says that, you know, you're you're right or you're biased or whatever. And I'm like, no, dude, you just don't know what you're talking about. And how do I tell you that I'm actually not biased? I just am telling you the truth. And therein lies the issue. So I have my biases, of course. I'm pro 2A. However, my position on 2A is rooted in how do you have a functioning system of governance that has a constitution and constitutional guaranteed rights, and then one faction trying to vote away those rights. You can't do that. It's not a question of whether I think you should have guns. It's a question of whether or not someone has the right to take them away from you. They don't. The system is here. The rules are in front of us. Play by the

rules. That's not bias. That's me saying, oh, okay, maybe there could be good effective gun laws. You can't do it because the Constitution says no. So they lie, cheat, and steal. If I'm talking with someone like Stephen Marsh, and he says there are more seditionists on the right than on the left. I said, what's your metric for this? He goes, court cases. Then I bring up the fact that where the criminal charges from the Summer of Love riots comparable to January 6th, where the criminal charges from 529 in front of the White House, the firebomb of the White House, you don't even know about it. And I'm like, so it's not an issue of me being biased, dude.

I'm not saying the right or the left has more or less. I'm saying, what's your metric? And you don't have one. This is the problem. I think when you look at people on the left who believe insane things, it's because they're genuinely ignorant but angry. And then when you look to the right, you do have that. But the tendency on the right is more mature, calm and rational. That's just it.

Plain and simple. That's why there are post liberals who are now in line with conservatives on the issue on the issue of, say, like Trump and America first first because we act because reality has a right-wing bias when i was on the left i was obsessed with mob getting a lot of people to believe what i believed that was my goal now i want the merits to live on their own when i'm gone i still want that idea to be present i don't care benevolent cult leader yeah you got to get away from the call and build systems that let people govern themselves because although it's too easy to become a cult leader with this technology so the so the issue is in reference to this one uh aaron said we should build houses for the unhoused and give them places to live and i said okay and then who's going to maintain that house because many of these people when i mentioned

that probably 80 of homeless people choose to be homeless he was shocked and didn't believe it and i'm like it's it's actually really simple arithmetic if i walk up to be homeless, he was shocked and didn't believe it. And I'm like, it's actually really simple arithmetic. If I walk up to a person and say, do you enjoy being homeless? And no, I say, would you like to not be homeless? They say, yes. Would you like a job? Yes. Congratulations.

They were homeless for two days and now they're not homeless anymore. This is why when you see a homeless person, it is almost entirely likely they are choosing to be homeless because if they didn't want to be homeless, they would seek these nonprofits and get out of that situation. He was shocked by this. But something that is encouraging is that you're right. And also there's a high percentage of homeless people who are only transiently homeless. They don't remain homeless in the United States, which is very encouraging because it is a

country where you actually are able to reach that rock bottom and then build your way back up. Right. But my point is not to be specific, not to specifically focus on homelessness. My issue, my point is the left gives you these surface level nonsensical positions and then demands them with rage. And they're like, there are more empty houses than homeless people. And I'm like, yes, but the solution to homelessness is not putting people in an empty house. They'll burn the place down. They'll destroy it.

They'll get injured. These are people who are unwell and incapable of maintaining and sustaining a house. Oh man, Libby was on the show and I was like, this is coming from people who never owned houses before because this is a lot of work. And then Libby was mentioning like, oh yeah, when I have a problem, I'm like, I can't call the soup anymore.

Yeah, when you rent, you just call the superintendent and they come and fix your problem for you. It reminds me of that show, Extreme Home Makeover, Yeah, when you rent, you just call the superintendent and they come and fix your problem for you. It reminds me of that show, Extreme Home Makeover, where they would be like, you're a family. We're going to,

you have some good story and we're going to demolish your house. We're going to build this really fancy house. But often those houses were incredibly, they needed a lot of electricity. They need a lot of water. They need to be maintained. They were the most expensive house in a neighborhood

that really didn't sustain that. And so it was ultimately a financial burden in a lot of cases. And I think that is sort of the position we're putting some people into, that they don't want to be a part of the system, so to speak. They don't want to pay rent or deal with any of that. They have their own ways of living and forcing them into it doesn't always work. And they've done studies about the amount of money per homeless person that places like San Francisco spend. And it's absolutely astronomical. I mean, it's like you're talking about a hundred grand. Exactly. So you actually got an upper middle class salary being spent on a single homeless person who is still not living well. So like, not only do they not have the solutions to it, but what they're trying to do is actively bad. And I get that from a compassionate standpoint, they don't want to see homeless people on the street suffering. But I'll again, bring up that most people who are homeless do not remain homeless for the entirety of their lives. So, you know, they're treating homelessness like a, I guess, like a disease that someone just has and will have forever. They will never again be,

I guess, able to support themselves, which is the wrong way to look at it. Let's read this from ILO fam. He says, Tim, if it let's uh read this from ilo fam he says tim if you love guns read this state court ballot measure 114 verdict coming by 11 22 i was the sole attorney versus eight from the state it is the strictest gun law in the country and it's getting very little attention uh state what state yeah i was gonna say what's this i don't know where you are sir so uh i'm assuming illinois maybe or something i know. Yeah. We'll grab some more super chats. Where are we at? Waffle Sensei says, how often do advertisements for infringement come up daily

for lefties everywhere on the internet? I have found that including Lauren Southern's name in searches forces the ABC algo to show the document first on Google. I have no idea. I don't know. We've got, I think, three ads running right now for infringed is that what you meant after it's for infringed yeah yeah they were wondering about the analytics i have no idea i don't know tim's got people for that he doesn't need to know yeah but like we do not have a massive marketing apparatus like a lot of companies where

we're tracking at all we're just like spending the ads promoting the idea of gun rights in and of itself is the victory so we're hoping that in the end the bottom line you know it works out and the documentary gets a lot of views so there you go t-rex pet pet shop says establishment republican voters really don't know what's happening in this country i call them fox news reps who only know what the establishment wants them to know that's why they're mad at maga for firing kevin mccarthy but don't know why lauren do you have pets i do i have a leon burger whose name is jellybean and she is beautiful like it's actually when i take her out in public it's almost a nuisance because i get stopped so often by people just in awe of she's about 145 pounds wow those dogs are amazing yeah she's a great dog jaffo on the bound says you think our founding fathers didn't freaking come to blows and She's about 145 pounds. Wow, those dogs are amazing. Yeah, she's a great dog.

Jaffo on the Bound says, you think our founding fathers didn't freaking come to blows on the Senate floor or dueling out back? Make dueling great again and back up the bluster? Yeah, dueling was like all the rage. This is like super vintage. Andrew Jackson dueled a lot of people. The idea was that you would defend your honor but not try to actually kill the guy so often what duels would be is they'd say show up

i want to duel you and they would draw pistols and then aim away and fire and then both their honor was intact because they both showed up to a duel risking life but didn't kill each other and then uh i think it was uh it was alexander ham and Burr. And that's what happened. Yep. Burr did not care. And Hamilton was like, I will aim away. And Burr was like, I'll kill you. Yeah.

Yep. Fired away. And then he got hit and he died. There's not many stories about them fighting on the floor of the congressional. There was the caning. Continental Congress. What did they what happened? The caning between it was it was what was it? it it was a uh democrat who caned uh no no it was a republican who got

caned by a democrat did they hold him down and he was like caning him on the on the ground bashing him in the face with a cane and caused a traumatic brain injury oh my god is that what it was it was a it was a democrat no no who was it was her who caned i think it was yeah yeah i think in the search i think it was a uh it was before a union guy got caned like a massive it was a guy from i used to go to work carrying pistols and bowie knives yeah sometimes use them on colleagues it says that's from history.com yeah i don't know i think people in chat will will it's been a while since i read about it i think it was a guy from massachusetts got mercilessly it was preston brooks entered the chamber carrying the cane i imagine he was the he walked over to and he was a charles sumner

the pro-slavery so oh no no he was a pro the pro-slavery southerner was the guy with the cane right yeah he went over to charles sumner and whacked him in the head with the cane and sumner was massachusetts uh I doesn't say. Yep. He beat him unconscious. Abolitionist Republican from Massachusetts. Right, right, right. And then he walked out and no one stopped it.

Everyone just stood there and watched. And in the South, they cheered for it and said the North was lying about the seriousness of the injuries. And in the North, they were like, they caused him to have serious brain damage for a long time. Wow. Yeah. Crazy.

Leading up to the Civil War, it says in the three decades, there were more than 70 violent incidents between congressmen wow so are you saying that we're leading up to a civil war not with bernie sanders in charge that's true he's gonna break up all those hallway fights what do we got zach ramer says love the work you guys are doing building culture and winning the culture war i'm sending the super chat in celebration of my first born child stetson being born keep up the great work you guys are doing uh congratulations great glad to hear it happy birthday stetson yeah congrats good job having a family i'm pro that as santa in the hallmark channel all right omg puppy says senator mccarthy spoke at the oxford union he came across as a neocon war hawk and a narcissist. Unsurprising.

His mask is off. The Clapper of Cheeks says play the audio recording from the reporter. I don't think they actually published that. I don't know if that was out at the time. I know that she said she chased after with the microphone, but I don't know if. Also, would you necessarily hear that? Like if someone just comes in like. Right. You'd hear him saying like, why'd you hit me? Yeah, but it's

pretty much you wouldn't see it. Yeah right paul tasco says eight suspects ages 13 17 arrested in the las vegas school beating death all being charged with murder and will be tried as adults according to report interesting i'd like to see the full details a lot of people were talking about the story did you see this one but a lot of people didn't mention that it was actually the dude who died who swung first the full video shows him swinging first it doesn't mean he was in the wrong it doesn't mean he wasn't acting in self-defense i don't know the full details of the story but a lot of people were like he got jumped by 15 people and and i'm like okay well i watched the video and there's like five people stomping on him two of which were not black and i think there were like

three maybe four that were black and if you watch full video, it's actually the kid who died who swings. He lunges at a guy and swings at him and then they rush in and start beating him. So I don't know exactly what happened or, you know, it is what it is. It's another reason to be afraid to send your kids to school, right? Well, come on. Where else are they going to get this type of socialization? Just at Congress, I guess. I guess.

I'm open to charging these kids with as adults at this point i'm like you know 16 years old you know yeah you know better doing 100 or you don't and either the way it's a problem and you belong behind bars i'm like not you but the kid would yeah i mean don't stop don't stop on somebody who's on the ground yeah geez i'm curious though like just i i don't know enough about the case to sit here and be like let's charge them as adults with murder same with a lot of people are screaming to do so. And I'm just like, bro, I watched a grainy video of people stomping a guy. I don't know anything about it.

Here's the problem I have. There could be a video of five guys stomping on a dude. And they're like, oh no, why are they doing that? And then someone releases a video that's got 10 seconds more. And the dude being stomped on is waving a knife around and screaming. then throws the knife and starts punching somebody i'm like oh okay that guy's clearly crazy then someone posts another video of 10 seconds before and this gang is actively opening fire on a crowd of people and this guy runs up and starts waving the knife around saying stop stop and it's like you just don't know what happened theoretically that's why we have trials

right so both sides can present evidence instead we have you know the media and 24-hour news cycles it's like we must know exactly right now based on very little information with kyle rittenhouse we had i think like five people who were there on this show telling us here's what we saw and so we were like okay wow with the video we've seen and your testimony and Richie McGinnis literally standing there behind him and helping the dude who got shot to the hospital, I'm like, pretty sure Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense. In this instance, all I saw was a video of some guy stomping on a guy

and him swinging at somebody. And I'm like, I don't know. Are you open to charging kids as adults now? It just depends on the circumstances, but sure. Yeah. It just depends. Right. See, the problem, the reason why we have to, so the answer is yes, is because gangs will

go to a 13-year-old kid and be like, hey, go take this gun and go kill that guy because you'll get out when you're 18. And then you're in the gang for life. Okay, so don't do that. No, be like, nah, you're 13, you committed a murder, we're locking you up, sorry. That's like, the idea is that the kids don't know better and you want to give them a chance. We can't,

and maybe, maybe the issue is if we need to go after the dude who gave the kid the weapon and ordered it and give that person life or something. I don't think prison solves the problem anyway, to be honest. Like the, there was that first creator in Virginia who brought a guy to school and, and shot his teacher in the hand and shoulder.

She survived, but he's never been charged because he's too young he's six they don't think that he could he would understand but someone who's 17 and stomping on a classmate yeah there's a big difference this is uh there's an important one hans gruber says wtf the world is coming to uh the world is coming to an end when ian is against freeing the code well i'm telling you ian started working out and everything's changing i'm an incrementalist i would love to free the software code but i'm also a real you, Ian started working out and everything's changing. I'm an incrementalist. I would love to free the software code,

but I'm also a realist. One step at a time. We go for TikTok, bite dance. Gandalf the Bass says, fist fight reminds me of the caning of Charles Sumner in 1856.

Happened just before the Civil War due to the tensions leading to the war. Say it, Tim, you know you want to. I don't think that Kevin McCarthy

elbowing a guy in the back is comparable to a dude being mercilessly beaten on the Senate floor. But we're a lower testosterone society now. So maybe we have to... Maybe we're working up to it. It's like inflation. You have to account

for it somehow. Amanda says Ben Franklin actually wanted Britain and America to stay together until Parliament humiliated him when he represented Massachusetts after the Boston Tea Party. Then he was all on board for separation. I think that he was playing them personally. I think that his intention was revolution the entire time.

But you might be right. What have we here? Cheesus crisp. Cheesus crisp. To be fair, roofs are like giant wheelchair ramps. My paraplegic buddy just laughed at those Santas. But does he feel represented? Does he feel like now he can be Santa?

Yeah. I like Tim's idea that he got into some sort of cool skateboarding action. Just taking a year off. You know, everyone needs a chance to recover. If it's just, I don't know. Go to Mexico, get the stem cells. Sure, anything. PRP.

Stormblood 20 says, waiting on a parody of Santa versus Putin where Russians go too far north and run into Santa's North Pole. I mean, that's basically like Violent Nights. Did you guys see that one? No. Actually, it's a really good movie.

Sounds awesome. Yeah, it's... Santa is delivering presents at the same time. A group is trying to rob this wealthy family. Oh, I have seen this movie. Yeah, and he uses this movie. Yeah. And he uses his bag to like fight. It's actually really funny.

Is he, if they got a good martial artist to play Santa, that would be so awesome. No, it was, what's his face? The guy from Stranger Things? The like sheriff guy?

Yeah. Oh. Whatever his name is. And he's married to Lily Allen. Yes. That guy. David Harbour. David Harbour, that's right.

Violinize was hilarious. It was good. John Lozano was in it. That guy's kind of insufferable, but you know, he does a good job in the film, so credit where it's due. Beverly D'Angbour, that's right. Violent Nights was hilarious. It was good. John Lozano was in it. That guy's kind of insufferable, but he does a good job in the film, so credit where it's due. Beverly D'Angelo, she's great. I recommend Violent Nights.

It's funny. Yeah, it's like, I guess they're claiming that Saint Nick was this brutish Nordic barbarian who was mercilessly raping and pillaging until he became Santa. Every culture has their own Santa, and doesn't that make you proud of yours if that's your culture? I forget what

kids movie it was, but it was like some kids movie where all the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny were all real and their version of Santa was just like this hardcore Russian. Like Russian Santa. I liked Russian Santa. This is the thing. We have to have Santa

that represents your cultural values. What have we here? Jeremy Wien says, Santa got mugged by Captain Marvel. Yeah, I mean that's kind of her arc. She mugged a dude. That was in the first movie. Okay, this is it.

Everybody knows, but I just gotta say it. Captain America was a dude who was weak and sickly and desperately wanted to get into the military got to say it. Captain America was a dude who was weak and sickly and desperately wanted to get into the military to serve his country. And Captain Marvel was a woman who had the power the whole time, but a man was holding her down.

Yeah. For real. And then Jude Law keeps telling her to control her emotions. I'm like, oh my God. A little too on the nose. Well, for most female superheroes, that is what it is,

or female characters in general. It's not like they need to grow. What their growth is, is realizing that they were great the whole time. Exactly. They lack the self-esteem to recognize it. That's a line from Gilmore Girls. I just watched this movie. I don't know if anyone knows what it's called, where two women go on vacation to Australia,

into this rural town, and they get a job at a pub. And I thought it was a horror movie. It's a horror movie in the sense that these women are the villains the whole time. Basically what happens is it's a rowdy pub. Then like one of the girls is drinking and wants to hang out with this guy who's not really that good of a dude and was causing fights. So then the main character gets an axe and slashes his tires. And then it ends with them just burning down this pub. And I'm like, what is this movie?

Like, who is this movie made for? I don't understand. But there's a scene where the two women are like crying with each other about the bar being rowdy or something. And I was like, you know, you'll never see a movie where it's guys in this circumstance. They would not make a movie where it's guys scared and angry at a bar. The guys would always be aggressive and confrontational. It's kind of like office space is the closest thing to it. I was going to say, what about Kylie Ugly?

That's like a super rowdy bar that a bunch of women deal with. We already made this movie. This is a very different movie. But that's what I mean. It's supposed to be like a horror, like there's a point where the guys break into the bar and I'm like, oh, wow. But then it's just some guys were trying to like

invite the woman to the sunset. And I'm like, okay, what's going on? So the women are the bad guys the whole time. It's supposed to be the good guys. But if you watch it the sunset. And I'm like, okay, what's going on? So the women are the bad time, bad guys the whole time. I, it's supposed to be the good guys, but if you watch it, like any rational person was like, yo,

these women are nuts. They're like antiheroes. No, they're not antiheroes. I was like, I really thought it was going to turn out. The woman was going to take an action, just go murder everybody.

And that was, that was like, oh, that'd be really cool. Like it turns out the character you thought was the scared victim turns out to be the killer. No, the movie just ends.

They burn the bar down and leave. And it's like, why it's like why what oh it sounds awful it's just a really bad i think they need to remake captain marvel as the guy who originally he was walter lawson i didn't ever read marvel comics but his marvel was his alien name and he came in he'd be on earth he was known as walter larson the soul or walter lawson this whole retconning and giving it to a woman all for no reason before they even had an opportunity to

portray him as he was written. Makes no sense. I think it's part of the hatred of that, that franchise. So bring back Mar-Vell. Well, it's funny because

like in the first movie, Captain Marvel is not a sympathetic character at all. She like mugs the eye, but in the second also, she's like called the Annihilator, like the Kree. Oh,

you went and saw it? Yeah. Oh yeah. I did a hate review of it. It it's bad but she like she's the the creed i mean spoilers they call her the annihilator uh because she basically destroys their entire society and planet by killing their ai leader and it's like do you want us to like captain marvel because how you are writing her she is not very lik likable. You know what I think it is? Woke leftists are evil and they're writing what they think is their power fantasy. So for the average person, Captain America is like a male power fantasy of I'm going to jump on the grenade. That's going to be me. If I was ever tested, I would prove that I'm not a coward coward and what these people are doing is their

perspective of the strong female power fantasy is he told me to smile i'm gonna beat and rob him it's like ah well you're the villain so about that just seems like such an overreaction like he tells you to smile and so you beat him up calm down team yeah he needs to be punished for sexism we'll get we'll get one more super here. B says, Bernie is right. Senators don't fight. Instead, they send your sons and daughters to fight in foreign wars that enrich themselves. Solution. O'Brien and Mullins should nominate some random family's children to fight in their stead,

as per the traditions of Congress. Or, to be honorable, send their own children to fight. Bernie should have been, stop it. Take it to Israel. Take the fight outside. You're a United States senator. Get someone else's kids to fight. Bernie should have been, stop it. Take it to Israel. No, it would have been funny if it was like, you're a United States senator. Get someone else's kids to fight for you.

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