Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #912 Elon Musk Tells Advertisers GO EFF YOURSELVES, Calls Boycott BLACKMAIL w/Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

Tim, Hannah Claire, Libby Emmons, & Serge join Jack Posobiec to discuss Elon Musk telling advertisers who try to blackmail him to go "eff" themselves, Rumble filing a defamation lawsuit against a medi...a watchdog group, Henry Kissinger reportedly passing away, & reports that investigators were warning about Hunter Biden payments back in 2018. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 And we're going to play that video for you. He said, anybody who wants to And we're going to play that video for you. He said, anybody who wants to try blackmailing me with money, go F yourselves, in a powerful statement. He goes on to talk about his motivations, and he makes really great points. There are these companies that pretend to do good while doing evil, just so they can earn those ESG scores, whereas he sees what he's working on as genuinely doing good, but being attacked relentlessly. I agree.
Starting point is 00:01:24 We got more news too this morning rumble announced a lawsuit against a group of activists that target conservative media or just in general politics and uh media platforms they don't like and tried to get their ads pulled chris pavlovsky the ceo said the cavalry is here announcing this lawsuit and well the rumor is there's going to be many many more lawsuits and uh before the show i saw a very very interesting story ufos and you know what that means hunter biden's in the news again because apparently they found these erratic payments from what where was it from like from china or something yeah from china in 2018 from china literally literally so all right all right breaking k-fabe here a little bit so tim was going through show prep looking at headlines looking at
Starting point is 00:02:09 headlines going all right we're gonna talk about like you know he works out his segments he's got the titles you know pre-planned for tomorrow whatever and then he goes oh look ufos there must be some hunter biden news just dropping and then libby's sitting there going wait there just was hunter biden news you didn't know that she's's like, no, the Hunter Biden story from earlier. And I was like, what? You're like 20 minutes ago, the Hunter Biden story about the payments. And I was like, no.
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Starting point is 00:03:47 we got Jack and Libby. Jack, what up? Jack Posobiec here from Human Events and I just got to say, man, I really agree with Elon Musk and his statement just there. You cannot blackmail me
Starting point is 00:03:59 from money. And if you want to try to blackmail me from money, then, you know, how much are we talking? Like, maybe, you know how much we talking like maybe let's chat I don't quite have Elon money
Starting point is 00:04:09 I mean a billion well we'll get into that I got a lot to say about this I could do a lot of free speech for a billion dollars Tim I'm just saying buys you a lot of pillows you know tons buy you a lot of pillows from mypillow.com
Starting point is 00:04:24 have you completed your mypillow know, tons. Buy you a lot of pillows from MyPillow.com. Have you completed your MyPillow Christmas order yet? I just have a quick question. Have you taken advantage of the Christmas sale? Because I mean, I'm just, I've been checking. I've been looking over your shoulder. I've been keeping an eye on everything that you're doing there, Hannah. Have you completed your Christmas order?
Starting point is 00:04:40 There's a lot of intense staring happening right now. I'm just going to look their way. What was that? MyPillow.com. I don't know who Hannah is. I'm just going to look their way. What was that? MyPillow.com. I don't know who Hannah is. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for Scanner, formerly TimCastNews.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I'm not used to saying it yet. Well, it's not formerly TimCastNews. It's still kind of confusing. Actually, SCNR has been around longer than TimCastNews. Well, but I was with TimCastNewsForce. I was formerly with TimCastNews and now I'm with Scanner. Yeah, Tim fired me,
Starting point is 00:05:01 then rehired me in the quickest chain of successions. It was a lot. It was a very traumatic day. Yeah, scnr.com has been around for a while. Do we call it scnr instead of scanner? Scnr or scanner, whatever you want to call it. I like scanner.
Starting point is 00:05:12 But if people are trying to look for the website, scnr.com, it's getting off the ground. We've got a lot of plans for it. There's other people involved. This one actually is from several years ago, overcoming some legal challenges, but it's back. It is back. Articles are starting to populate. And Shane Cashman wrote this crazy article about going with these pedo-
Starting point is 00:05:30 He sent me that, yeah. It's a wild story. Yeah, it's totally wild. But yes, Hannah Clare is also a writer for Scanner. Yes, I am a writer for Scanner, which is new to me, but not new to everyone in the TimCast sphere.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And Libby's here. Hey, I'm Libby Emmons. I am with the Postmillennial and humanevents.com. And I just want to say, I think they're doing some kind of manhunt around the property. I am with the Post Millennial And humanevents.com And I just want to say I think they're doing Some kind of manhunt Around the property
Starting point is 00:05:48 I'm wondering what it is It's all over It's like a helicopter Flying at like 50 feet Yeah so I thought It was on And it seemed to be So you know what
Starting point is 00:05:57 They're doing They're That's You know It's flying It's flying in circles No they've got No it's
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's the UFO right That's concentric circles If there is A manhunt They're either looking for someone or they're doing training as if they're looking for someone. Well, because that's what you would do. Softly close to the ground. It's weird that you have this, this spin though. You're saying that they're looking for someone.
Starting point is 00:06:15 They're pretending to look for someone. It's definitely not you. You're not on the run. No, no, it's, it's just training. It's totally, that's just a weather balloon, buddy. Don't worry about that. It's a swamp gas. It's a bunch of swamp gas out there.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So we got Serge press the buttons Yeah I'm here Just listen to Jack Talk about his Operation going on outside So it'll get It'll get quieter
Starting point is 00:06:31 And then it'll get louder And then it'll get quieter And then it'll get louder And then I will find the person Who's been using promo code Tanya Within this zip code We tracked it to a single computer Someone who said
Starting point is 00:06:42 They formerly worked for Timcast News Now works for something called SCNR. I have no idea who she is, but we will track her down. But Tanya's a great lady. Have you guys met her? She's fantastic. She's all right. She's all right.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, I'm just going to say. I like her. I'll keep her. So promo code Tanya. No, that doesn't exist. That's not a real thing. As a matter of fact, it's a sting operation. But you would only know if you test it out.
Starting point is 00:07:01 From the start. All right. Which you should never do. Let's jump into this first story from scnr.com. Scanner. What a cool news site. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Elon Musk on advertisers withdrawing from X. We're getting off to an early start, so earmuffs your kids. Go fuck yourself. Wow, man. By the way, Tanya, you can probably not have the kids watch. That's a quote. The whole world. That's why I said F in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Cause I said, we're going to play the video. You need the context. The whole world will know those advertisers that killed the company. This is what I've been saying. I was saying in 2018, when the ad apocalypse happened on YouTube, I said,
Starting point is 00:07:38 if Coca-Cola or insert company, let's say Coca-Cola as an example. I don't know if they boycotted, but let's say they go to YouTube and say, we're going to pull our ads off because of the brand safety issue. YouTube should have said, well, okay,
Starting point is 00:07:49 I guess we can give all of your ad space to Pepsi instead. And they would have been like, wait, no, that's really bad for our rent. Yeah. We're going to go give it to your principal. Actually RC Cola.
Starting point is 00:07:58 RC Cola is getting all of your ad space now free of charge. Remember Joel Cola? Can we give it to Joel Cola? Oh, I love Joel Cola. What's the thing that the Insane Cloud and Posse guys drink? Yeah. of your ad space now, free of charge. Remember Jolt Cola? Can we give it to Jolt Cola? Oh, I love Jolt Cola. Bring it back. Bring Jolt Cola back.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Insane clown posse guys drink? Yeah, let's put it in that. Let's play this clip. I used to drink Jolt at the South Street Diner. Surge, remember Surge? All right, here we go. Here's the clip. Apology tour, if you will.
Starting point is 00:08:19 This had been said online. There was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving. We talked to Bob Iger today. I hope they stop. You hope? Don't advertise. You don't want them to advertise? No. If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising,
Starting point is 00:08:36 blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself. He's like nervous laughter. Look at Zorkid. Go fuck yourself. is he doing it okay you call him out hey bob wow earlier that day bob eiger yeah i think he's still in the room actually when he's saying this how do you think that about absolutely amazing when he's like i hope they stop you can he
Starting point is 00:09:06 actually free advertising he actually freezes for a second so so andrew sorg this is a guy you know he's cnbc but he's kind of like their golden boy then he goes on this is the new york time summit this is like the masters of the universe of wall street they're all there elon comes in this is where jamie diamond i think earlier in the day came out and urged everyone to get behind nikki haley they're like hey let's get the uniparty back together you know let's let's do it guys remember we used to run game before trump we're gonna do that again and and sorkin was totally dead and everyone was fine with that like you can you can be totally fine by telling people that you want to go on a murderous rampage and invade
Starting point is 00:09:46 the middle east and kill thousands of people that's cool and and nobody bats an eye but if you tell advertisers to f off then everybody loses i was gonna say you can you can advocate for attacking russia yes nuclear war nuclear war but if you say we're going to build a wall on our southern border, well, now you're a bigot, racist, and must be stopped. And there's no way to afford that. We couldn't possibly afford $3 billion for the wall, even though we're paying, what, $450 billion for all the illegals?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Is it a billion or a million? I think it's a billion. It's actually a billion. It's like a factor. I almost can't believe this. You see Chicago, they're building the camps. With churches? They're building two camps with churches?
Starting point is 00:10:28 No. No, no, no, no. They have big, empty industrial lots. I'm mixing up stories. And in two areas in the south side of Chicago, they're building a brick-and-mortar migrant camp. And then they're also building a tent city. Well, you see, that'll be perfect for once we get in power
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Starting point is 00:11:50 Look, the left is far more willing to use government power against any target than the right is. The right is terrified of wielding power. The left has no problem whatsoever. Yeah, well, that's right, because the the left is that's what they decided governance is they decided governance is using the government to suppress the american people and that's their plan right so the only difference is they'd want to put us in there so going back to the elon story i don't know if this was a response but there's a quote from bob eiger i have a lot of respect for elon and what he has accomplished said eiger we We know that Elon is larger than life in many respects and that his name is very much connected to the companies he founded or owns.
Starting point is 00:12:30 By him taking the position he took in a public matter, we felt that the association was not necessarily a positive one for us. And I'm going to go ahead and say they're lying. It's not a response. He said it prior. He said it prior. Right. And he's lying because. So that's why he said hi, Bob.
Starting point is 00:12:43 They wrote. Right. They wrote to their shareholders. This is he i agree is disney right yeah right uh they wrote that they know that their views are misaligned with the public so for him internally to shareholders to investors right so they know that they're on the wrong side of all of this and they're losing money because of it well and that that movie wish just totally flopped at the box office pure communism um you know just uh what was the the marvels the marvels was the other one just absolute flop and the books aren't doing well either so um the
Starting point is 00:13:17 actress formerly known as page uh that book totally flopped after getting a massive advance from publishers uh jamelle hill's book totally flopped after getting a massive advance from publishers uh jamelle hill's book totally flopped after getting massive advance they sold like a couple thousand copies there's just no market for this crap but what's wild is they they sold out what was it a six month supply of michael knolls's cigars in 24 hours 24 hours yeah and and there he was like the supplier assured us this is six months trust us he's like okay and supplier assured us, this is six months. Trust us. And he's like, okay. And then 25 hours, it's gone. That's crazy. And then we wonder why the book about queering the Western did not take off.
Starting point is 00:13:53 It was a queer Western. Ah. Yeah. Because that's what people are looking for. No one wanted to read it. And these all had hefty advances. It's not just like Wish or the Marvels. Remember Strange World or whatever it was called?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like the whole plot was like a diverse group of people with a bunch of different identities or whatever are you really gonna have to narrow it down they go on a space quest literally everything now i'm not gonna watch any of that stuff what i mean what is wild diverse group of friends like that's how every single movie pitch starts right now what absolutely is why we talked about with jeremy boring the other day is that like two weeks after Daily Wire announces their Snow White, Disney releases a photo of Rachel Ziegler
Starting point is 00:14:32 as in the original Snow White costume with dwarves around her, with the original seven dwarves. We saw the photos of the seven companions. I guess they're firing, what are they going to fire all those actors? Just they're all gone now? Like, wouldn't it have been, but just they're all gone now like wouldn't it have been but just
Starting point is 00:14:46 on the face of it wouldn't it have been really cool if they had got Peter Dinklage and had him play all seven of the but he was the one
Starting point is 00:14:52 who said no wasn't he the one who was like no you can't hire and then there were a lot of other people who were like you are limiting us
Starting point is 00:14:59 like we don't care about this we would love to be casting these roles wouldn't that have been hilarious to have him in you know and he's got like a different beard or a different hair a different hat and he like I don't care about this. We would love to be cast in these roles. Wouldn't that have been hilarious to have him in, and he's got a different beard or a different hair, a different hat. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That would just be good. And I don't think anyone would be making fun of you. It's because these are iconic characters. Exactly. So mythical dwarves are forged from the stone inside of mountains. Yes. We're not insulting you, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's like a mythical character and the women have beards female dwarves have beards it's like a myth mythical thing like there's a lot of politicians who have beards too that's true that is absolutely correct but you know he takes it personally i don't know i'm wondering though i got where's he gonna get the money for operating this uh it's your platform that we all like. I mean, this is what Elon was kind of saying, which was that the business will fail and everyone will closely document which companies pulled out and allowed Twitter to fail. And Sorkin kind of stutters and is like, no, no, the advertisers are going to say you said those things and it was they couldn't be on the platform anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And that's why they pulled out. And Musk responds, we'll see how Earth responds to that. Because ultimately, if the advertisers are ruining something the public wants, like Twitter, I mean, there are a lot of Twitter competitors
Starting point is 00:16:15 or ex-competitors out there, but nothing succeeded in replacing them. And so people will know who pulled out and wanted to win it. He knows what he's got. Elon needs to reach out to Anheuser-Busch. That's a great idea. I'm a big Bud Light fan, by the way.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Bud Light's the go-to beer. Because of the deal with... Because UFC. Because they basically totally reversed course in the exact opposite direction by doing this. So now you have Sean Strickland saying things I can't repeat on YouTube. And they're subsidizing it. And they're subsidizing it. And they're subsidizing it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So I'm like, okay, let's push that. Let's have that be the narrative. Plus, who doesn't love a good redemption story? Yeah. I feel like I'm holding out. They need a little bit more redemption from them. But it's a step in the right direction. But if every company that did some woke BS flipped and started sponsoring people we liked,
Starting point is 00:17:03 we have to accept that as a win. You're not going to get rid of Anheuser-Busch. The company is just too powerful to ever stop existing. So I think, and we talked about this on Thought Crime with the show I do with Charlie, where it's sort of like, at what point do you stop beating? You stop beating until they correct the behavior. So if they've overcorrected in the other behavior, then they're okay. Now we have to, now, so Absolute Vodka, I think Libby, you were tweeting about this. Like they've gone 10 times worse than anything that Bud Light ever did. Well, no more Absolute Vodka.
Starting point is 00:17:39 What do we have? We have our stuff from Russia. He's cutting himself off. Cutting off? We never bought that crap. We buy our stuff from Russia.ussia the real stuff yeah real stuff vodka exactly the real vodka this is what you do i thought it was funny to cure covid with vodka we bought it at like the peak of the russia ukraine conflict and then the guy at the liquor
Starting point is 00:17:57 store is like that's from russia and i'm like i'll take three i never saw it again i mean i legend says that russia has the good vodka no one's no one's actually had any I'm pretty sure really like we have Grey Goose too
Starting point is 00:18:09 in the liquor cabinet if they turn you to bear Tim's gonna come in with like a Z I used to buy Zylka vodka from this liquor store called KGB Liquors
Starting point is 00:18:18 on Essex Street oh wow everybody everybody drinks scotch you're like someone comes in and they're like I'll have a drink
Starting point is 00:18:24 they're going for some kind of like a scotch or a bourbon. Yeah. Nobody touches the tequila or the vodka. What are those like college party drinks, I guess. I'm like, we got good stuff. We'll take care of our guests. I think scotch would just savor a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I guess. The best thing ever, shout out to Max Blumenthal. He went right for the Malort. And he was like, oh, Malort. And I was like, are you joking? He was like, no, I love this stuff. And I was like, was like oh wow for those who don't know it's a chicago thing i would say though what elon has done here he has declared a new meme war he has declared meme jihad on any advertiser that's come that's what he's done he's gone to the heart of wall street right and he has now
Starting point is 00:19:05 declared war on any business that doesn't advertise on or i should say that pulled out of x over this so to all the meme warriors out there to the edge lords to the posters this is your call the banners have been called the beacons have been lit. Meme jihad on all of them. I want all of you sitting at home in front of your computers with paintbrush on your task bar pinned to crack that open and make the memes.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And when you post that meme, I want to imagine that you are Gandalf on top of that hill at the Battle of Helm's Deep with the riders of Rohan storming in. How did you know that I have it pinned? I'm not even joking. Paintbrush. of that hill at the battle of Helm's Deep with the riders of Rohan storming in. How did you know that I have it pinned? I'm not even joking. Paintbrush. Yo, I literally was hitting up my boy Still Boneless the other day because they changed MS Paint to like a new version and all the original format is off and I was like, no,
Starting point is 00:19:59 no, it's not working. It's not. They're trying to thwart this. But they're trying to stop the meme. Yeah, they're trying to stop the meme. It's pre working. It's not working. They're trying to thwart this. But they're trying to stop the meme. Yeah, they're trying to stop the meme war. It's preemptive strike. So you can down convert it and there's a way and Boneless figured it out. I mean, OG MS Paint is like for making the memes.
Starting point is 00:20:15 All of the drawings of characters in the memes are drawn haphazardly through MS Paint. We don't need improvements. No. Get out of here with that. Like the original always has been the two astronauts meme. That's very famously like a really crude MS Paint meme. Like the original, original one.
Starting point is 00:20:33 This was my pitch to Elon. And he's like, sort of there. I was saying he should anti-advertise. Perhaps it's as simple as what Jack is saying. We should just start memeing all these companies and insulting them and saying jihad yes meme crusade well days volt baby it is it is these look disney who do they think they are like they they made mulan and thanked the security forces running the concentration camps the weaker concentration camps in the Uyghur concentration camps in China.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And they're going to get on their high horse and insult X. It's purely political. Spare me your nonsense. You don't care what Elon Musk said. You're playing dirty games because you're crackpot weirdos. But I'll tell you this. When Disney put out that statement about how they're losing, they mentioned their goals towards the environment and social change quite literally they're saying esg has screwed us over and is costing all of you money because at the end of the day right esg only existed this environmental
Starting point is 00:21:36 sustainability government uh scheme was it was all about a stock scheme, right? It was never anything that had to do with making a good product. So the idea was that if you had a good ESG score, that you would score bigger capital with like BlackRock and Blackstone, StateTree, et cetera. So they would come in and they would capitalize you and then your stock would go, your stock would rise. And then also you would just gain more access to more capital markets, more American capital markets through that. And so again, Nick, you wanted a better score. So this is your question.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Famously, by the way, they screwed over Elon Musk for Tesla because they gave them a low ESG score. And he's like, I'm literally the only guy in the world who founded a company just to do electric cars. How could, this is the definition of ESG, right? And they got hit on diversity. It's the definition of esg right and they got hit on diversity um it's like it's the definition of environmentally i'm an african immigrant who started an electric car
Starting point is 00:22:30 company what are you talking about you know how could i possibly have a negative score and they hit him on diversity because he had too many white males and so you know he's he's declaring his like internal jihad against it but there's a lot of people now looking at it saying look we realize that this has gone way too far because initially it was just supposed to get your score up to help with the stock but then it just slowly dominated those entire companies it dominated their entire workforce um obviously with netflix we know it's it's turned into a meme it's turned into a meme with netflix where they're kind of like leaning into it now and they're making like like like the general hannibal is going to be black yeah you know really which is denzel washington wow he's a great actor like we all love denzel right i don't think
Starting point is 00:23:13 there's really any denzel attractors out there but but you know but the argument is that he's from northern africa yeah even though it's africa he's not like a black african i i don't have a big problem with uh idris elba playing um 007 no no no no no in um in four oh oh uh the watch guy the guy with the i forgot his name you remember his name no he's like an actual like yeah i know you're norse mythological guy or whatever and i'm like i don't have that i don't have a big issue with like anyone playing any mythological or no me neither yeah it's like whatever but if it's like a historical figure. Historical figures are worse. I will say even with mythical stuff,
Starting point is 00:23:49 like there are lots of cultures that have myths. Why don't we just have new ideas? Why don't we do new things? Like this is what bothered me about the Little Mermaid thing and Disney pays for this, right? They decide that they don't see enough diversity
Starting point is 00:24:01 and rather than saying like, well, what cultures do we want to see diversity from and what stories can we steal from them? Instead, they're like Hans Christian Andersen. We're doing it again, except we've just changed the skin tones. And that feels so cheap and gross that I think ultimately it's collapsing around them. It's the same thing like when they're making these teeny bopper remakes of stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You know, what was it? They had one that like on Robin Hood, except it was going to be a girl and it said the inner city. And ultimately, I don't even know if it ever got made because people don't like it. It's transparent. It's cheap. It doesn't engage them intellectually. It's not a really a form of art.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It's barely a form of entertainment. But they're not just changing. Yeah, but they're not just changing the skin tone, right? I mean, if you're just changing skin tone, that's one thing. But you're not also not just swapping gender when you do it that you know when you do that that kind of thing what you're doing is um taking stories that have meaning that have a place in culture and transforming them into something that is meaningless and empty and dead so you're taking living stories and living narratives and you're just killing them i mean mean, that was the thing about Snow White, right?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Is this real? Tim, I just saw a tweet. The New York Times just deleted the Dealbook Summit with Elon from their YouTube channel. No shit. What? Oh, excuse me. What happened? Just before the show. Obviously, what this clip is from. I don't know how we would track that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 If the video's not there, the video's not there. How do we know it was ever there? Maybe it has been archived. Because we have clips of it. We do have plenty of clips. No, but someone has a link back to it from New York Times. There's stuff with Elon up.
Starting point is 00:25:34 No, no, the Elon stuff is up. On Twitter. Well, CNBC has clips of it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's clips of it still out. But apparently the whole thing was being, according to the tweet from Adrian Dittman, they they're saying the new york times took down the full event from new york times events i i i'm gonna stop right there you know it probably happens is when when lives you can
Starting point is 00:25:56 set live shows to not be public after they're done that may have just been the case this video has been removed by the uploader yeah Yeah. That's what it would say. I'm pretty sure that when you're setting a live stream, you can set them so that after they're done, they don't appear as videos on your channel. And it would say it's removed. It doesn't look like they have anything from Dealbook Summit up. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:20 The clips that were pulled, they were pulled while the show was still live. I mean, yeah, you can't stop the clips. The clips are out. I don't know. Like the clips that were pulled, they were pulled while the show was still live. I mean, yeah, you can't stop the clips. The clips are out. I don't know. But why would you pull it? I mean, I'm pretty sure they may have just made it to the show when behind the, you know, went private as soon as it was done being live.
Starting point is 00:26:39 That's a common thing. Oh. Maybe. I don't know. I'm just saying before I say anything anything i'd like to know for sure exactly what happened sure if they if if it was the live stream was done and it was on their channel and you could watch the archive and now it's been deleted that means they they went and actually removed it i mean they've got a bunch of other live streams up but i don't know why they would
Starting point is 00:27:02 even do that because uh yeah but what are they from once from eight hours ago one is it was it an event or what is it a summer event summer interviews some are just different things yeah maybe maybe i don't know perhaps that is the case well shall we talk about the uh the war for your minds we got the story from scanner at cnr.com rum Rumble files lawsuit against Media Watchdog Group. When anti-free speech zealots lie to inflict intentional economic harm on our company, we have no choice but to hold them accountable. Video streaming platform Rumble has filed a federal defamation suit against two co-founders of a Media Watchdog Group.
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Starting point is 00:28:48 If you understand what this group does, I would not call them a media watchdog group. I wouldn't either. Yeah. Lying about people and trying to engage in tortious interference is not media watchdog. It's it's it's maybe maybe a leftist or liberal political activism is probably fair watchdog. Do you? It's, it's, it's, maybe, maybe a leftist or liberal political activism is probably fair to say. But just, just real quick to get to the opening context here.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Rumble is suing these individuals because they claimed that Rumble receives 90% of its funding through Google ads or something to that effect. And that's not true. Rumble says
Starting point is 00:29:23 this is completely false and they actually told them this is not true. And it's damaging to their brand because Rumble, their business is we are independent from big tech. So they said they know it's not true. They won't take it down. We're suing them for defamation, which means either these people knowingly, uh, knowingly posted lies and considering they've been informed. It's not true that it seems that may be the case or they have just reckless disregard for the truth but these groups uh these individuals have gone after steve bannon charlie kirk i'm pretty sure uh they go after
Starting point is 00:29:54 you right jack well they go after post-mortem human events they sure do but don't do they have you listed as their their insurrectionists i'm on the list uh i'd have to look let me they came after us because of our work with andy and they it's usually about andy uh yeah they worked they basically like got antifa to go after our advertisers and take us down you didn't make the list sorry sorry jack it's a dan bongino charlie kirk tucker carlson uh we got glenn back steve uh uh steve bannon and me i reached out at one and i don't even know why I'm on there. Wait, scroll down a little bit. It's just, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:30:28 What are you looking for? Well, because it's talking about the January 5th show of War Room because I was sitting next to Steve on that show. But yeah. Didn't make the cut. I'm like, why am I on this list?
Starting point is 00:30:36 I will try harder during the next insurrection. I promise. They argue that I'm one of the biggest proponents of the big lie. And the big lie is defined as Donald Trump claiming he actually won 2020. And I've always maintained that have you ever heard you
Starting point is 00:30:49 say that i i i argued with bannon that i that no like twice so uh like you guys went at it in the third hour too yeah yeah my my position was like dude people keep saying biden can't get 85 million votes and i'm like you're correct trump got anti got anti vote like people weren't voting for Biden. Don't don't think that. But I think what we saw was. But there are issues with those ballots. I don't know about that. What I what I what I what I will say is if if you operate under the assumption that fraud is the reason you lost, you lose again. If you operate under the assumption that Democrats were changing rules in ways that greatly benefited them and they did, you will,
Starting point is 00:31:30 you will win. For one, we, we saw in Georgia, uh, Republicans lost the Senate race because there are people who are like, what's the point of voting anyway? They're going to steal it. No, no, we can't have that mentality. But anyway, without getting into all that stuff, cause we don't need to the fact that they they are arguing I made these claims. Now, you totally get why they're being sued by Rumble. Okay. This is not a media watchdog group. They're outright lying.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I actually reached out to one of the board members in 2021 when they were targeting post-millennial and we were losing ad revenue. And it was not a pleasant moment. You actually lost ad revenue? Yeah. Because of them? Yeah. How? Because they went after our advertisers
Starting point is 00:32:08 and our advertisers refused to advertise on the platform. Wow. Because if an advertiser sees that this is valid, they present themselves as- I asked them about it. I asked one of the board members about it directly and she responded and she said, as to advertisers being intimidated into dropping you advertisers
Starting point is 00:32:27 are not so easily scared if they drop you it seems worthwhile to look at why and make your choices about what or what not to do about it um and she later said uh you know keep your eye on the prize what is so important is to consider why would an advertiser drop a publisher they think worthy of support they wouldn't so she ended up saying you know basically that publishers make these decisions and the people who um where they advertise like post millennial should make different decisions in order to keep the advertisers yeah so it is an intimidation thing for sure i mean if they admitted it and they also said in part that their goal is to destroy the ad tech business entirely yeah i mean if they are not open about what their political leadings are
Starting point is 00:33:15 then or even if they are they can still be accepted as a as a mainstream reference right you'll have things all the times that are say oh you, you're on the SPLC's list of whatever, and so we can't trust your opinion. You're on this group's thing, so we can't advertise with you. These lists are created so that they become taken as, you know, as gospel. Never trust any, you know, conservative
Starting point is 00:33:36 that doesn't get ended up on one of these lists or doesn't get attacked by any of these people. I want to ever trust them. I want to pull up this post from them so you can understand this is what Rumble is suing. They tweeted, in case you're wondering where Tim Pool's been, right wing podcaster Tim Pool isn't selling ads anymore after a successful check my ads campaign. He's selling dot dot dot coffee.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And we found out who makes the beans. Here's the thing. We we we are we are selling ads. We have we've never lost a sponsor. We have all our sponsors still. We we literally just recorded several ads what on on what days it's wednesday on monday on monday i'm like everyone get out we're recording ads for the same sponsors we just finalized another six-figure sponsorship
Starting point is 00:34:16 deal they're outright lying and using the lies to make money to convince people to donate wait so because i i remember seeing that when when they posted that or you know you were tweeting at them or something and then i would went back and i was thinking like so sometimes if i don't catch the show live i'll go back and listen on the podcast side and i'm like they're all there like you you can hear it it's totally normal and it's been that way for, I don't know, years at this point. So we've been doing mostly over the past few months, direct reads for Casper Coffee, obviously, because we're building up our own company, which is probably going to crack over a million dollars in revenue in its first year. So in a conspiracy to profit, you've created a
Starting point is 00:35:02 company and you're using your other company to leverage that new company i mean this is this is this is the most nefarious thing i've ever heard so currently we have uh our same ad sales rep for we used we used to do more live reads during the show now it's all just the recorded right so if you guys listen on the on the podcast you'll get the recorded ads where it's like that's what i'm saying better help help, and the sponsors are all still there, and we actually do really well, like substantially. They are outright fabricators, and I will add, the only reason we've not done live reads specifically,
Starting point is 00:35:38 despite the fact we still have all these sponsors asking us when we will, is because we're trying to promote as much as possible Casper, but we actually did a deal for some live reads on the show again like what you see they use deceptive language first of all they said i'm not selling ads anymore totally false we're absolutely selling ads we still have all the same sponsors and we just finalized a six-figure deal with a new sponsor so that is factually incorrect it is it is absolutely false and they say after a successful check my ads campaign is that fraud i feel like this it doesn't make sense to me also
Starting point is 00:36:13 because i mean did they did they get in contact he's like where did they find out that you weren't selling ads obviously if they had done any kind of research that would have been false they could contact our ad sales they sort of were like oh tim's not talking about something so we've decided like so it doesn't make any sense but but but if you how are they monetized if you listen they take donations so they're c3 yes if you listen to the audio podcast there's i think 10 ads like from a ton of different sponsors yes and they're fundraising off the lie that we don't some of its inserts some of its like donuts some all different things it seems weird it's just like wild folks he's not actually advertising donuts it's when they send you i mean what are that's when you would like when they send you
Starting point is 00:36:54 part of an ad and then you insert something and then you know yeah so here's here's the way it works uh some ad sales are like hey we have an ad we want to run it on your show it's like all right great we have an ad we have an ad company that we have a management company that handles that. Right. We just choose where in the show to put it. And then a few of our sponsors, our bigger sponsors, they say, we want Tim Pool to read this personally. Correct.
Starting point is 00:37:13 We say, you got it. And that costs obviously a little bit more. And then for this show, we actually have all of our sponsors. We used to do reads for like Virtual Shield. There's safeand and ready meals.com there's uh what else do we have um like protein energy thing oh right we got the collagen we have we have the we have the the camping gear and stuff yeah all of these sponsors are still there and and i've we we've actually been i've been i've been talking about ad sales guy about end of the
Starting point is 00:37:42 year sales to pick back to bring them back in because i'm like look we've been doing casper this whole time anyway i digress i digress yeah because usually my contracts run like you like so it's like january to january so yeah so at this point we do monthly we're going into really yeah every month we renegotiate and that i like it better because i'm like look you know we had a great month this month's gonna be bigger we want more money yeah so well i shouldn't say all most my ad my ad guy just sent me like a december pitch and i said yes and they're like this is insane it's just absolutely insane that these groups lie look i guess they have success in some areas like you guys were losing money i'm like what are they talking about i never promoted the big lie i never claimed trump won and we we still sell ads yeah yo this is wild
Starting point is 00:38:29 i i don't know man like do i have to pursue some kind of like criminal charge like fraud charges against them because it i guess what you'd have to do is find someone who donated to them because they believed this organization had negatively impacted our business they also have a tweet up claiming that our website's demonetized which it's literally not it's crazy yeah you know i mean whatever though but rumble's suing them because they're doing the same thing they claim that rumble is operating off google ads and rumble's like no we aren't in fact i will i will add uh well i shouldn't say too much but uh what i can say is rumble has has their own ads that appear on rumble
Starting point is 00:39:11 wild this is this is what these activists do they claim to be an organization that fights disinformation but literally all they do is manufacture it also they're a not-for-profit their their 501c3 status is pending. And I just wonder, what is so charitable about this organization that tax dollars should be going to this group? Right. I mean, tax dollars don't go to it. They just don't pay taxes. They just don't pay taxes on it. Exactly. They're just claiming that they're doing a public service by telling you what's going on, and the public has more information this way. They'll get their 501c3 status because ultimately the people who give to them are the
Starting point is 00:39:48 same people who give to the political leaders who are in charge right now. I mean, they see it as a benefit to their own mission. And that's why they can send you emails being like, well, if you were better at publishing better stuff, then your advertisers wouldn't pull out. It's not that we bullied them. It's just we decided that were uh an unwanted organization and told them that it's crazy it feels very dystopian to me like grants and individual donations the company does interesting yeah so i'm looking up their uh their filings that was the weird thing about hearing Elon Musk talk, which is that he's saying, you know, the advertisers believe they can ultimately get me
Starting point is 00:40:31 to do what they want, even sort of opening up with, well, you're sort of on this apology tour. And I felt like I could watch Elon Musk's tense and be like, I'm absolutely not on an apology tour. I am not going to admit that you guys are... Admit wrongdoing. Admit wrongdoing or just partake in
Starting point is 00:40:45 this in this manipulation of what you want and i think the weird thing is that ultimately advertisers need the eyes and the eyes are going to stay on twitter meaning that the users are staying on twitter even if the advertisers pull off right like the engagement on twitter didn't dip because the advertisements went away ultimately to me it seems like someone else will rise up and take those spots back or they'll come back because that's where the crowd is wild yeah it's it's it's it this is what we're up against well and texas is sell is uh the texas ag is suing media matters he is he is suing yeah investigating he was investigating he's investigating media matters so in texas they can't bring it's their ag situated a little bit differently like he has to pass off a criminal case in Texas, they can't bring, their AG is situated a little bit differently.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like he has to pass off a criminal case to someone else. They can't bring themselves like you can in some states. Same with civil. And so Missouri was a huge one because they're able to bring direct action. But it's just a great example, right? So look at the Trump cases that are going on right now from the left.
Starting point is 00:41:43 You've got the Attorney General of New York finding any pretext to go after him, literally any pretext to go after him, his company, his family, even things that didn't even happen in her state. She's finding a way to make it happen. You see this with Fannie Willis. You see this again and again. One of the best, from his perspective, one of the most strategic and most efficient uses of money that George Soros ever did was in funding all of these people. Because for a couple million bucks here and there, you compare that to like the Koch industry, the Koch brothers who spent billions like just drowning our country down the tubes.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And now they want to throw all this money behind Nikki Haley. Now they're backing Haley. It's so crazy. And you compare that to just a couple of million bucks that George Soros spent in key targeted races, whereby he's now able to have the president of the United States arrested. He's able to have the front runner for the Republican nomination be put under a series of trials. So all of this is going on.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Meanwhile, Republicans will sit back and go, oh, we can't do anything like that. That's not fair. You know, you've got all of these organizations. Look what they did to the NRA. Look what Letitia James did to the NRA and just completely castrated them in front of everyone. Sure, they still exist on paper, but they're so much more castrated than they've ever been in terms of the 2A fight right now at a time where, just to be frank about it, the Republican Party needs single issue voters. Look at how the Democrats are utilizing single issue voters
Starting point is 00:43:11 when it comes to abortion and turning that into a massive ballot harvesting operation. The NRA could be doing that if they existed or had any serious operations right now, just doesn't exist after what Letitia James did. And Republicans will sit there and say, oh, that's not fair. Meanwhile, Democrats are saying,
Starting point is 00:43:25 let's strip Trump off the ballot. Let's find any way that we can destroy you guys and keep pressing the advantage. Because again, Democrats know how to use government power. They will use government power and Republicans are terrified. So I threw out there, and not to get into like the primary stuff,
Starting point is 00:43:42 if you want to. We're about to actually. Okay, well, I threw out there that a guy like Ron DeSantis would never even, and not to get into like the primary stuff if you want to um we're about to actually okay well i was gonna i threw out there that that a guy like ron desantis would never even like he would be physically terrified to utter the words i'm going to have joe biden stripped from the ballot in florida yep and you know he has full power in the state super legislature you know he could easily file a charge from his campaign saying that biden is ineligible and you find pretext under the fact that he that he took
Starting point is 00:44:10 bribery from china which is an impeachable offense and he could say therefore you are not eligible to run for president under the constitution and you could file that lawsuit and this guy he would be terrified to do that because and you can say it's not the stones, not the backbone, whatever. It's just that he is a pedantic rule follower. He's terrified of actually standing up for himself and fighting back. And it's why, like, he'll go on Laura Ingraham and can't even, you know, can't even name Ronna McDaniel and say, oh, I'm terrified to do this. You could see Laura, like, rolling her eyes at him. And my point is that it's not even an anti-DeSantis thing. It's just that there's a lot of Republicans like this.
Starting point is 00:44:46 They are terrified to actually use government power. Well, let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail. You know what this means? Exclusive U.S. military is seeing UFOs in space, official report says. And that can only mean one thing. Hunter Biden was caught with weird money laundering again. Fox News reports money laundering investigator warned of Hunter Biden's unusual erratic payments from China in 2018.
Starting point is 00:45:12 The bank investigator raised concerns about money that ultimately funded the $40,000 payment to Joe Biden, Comer says. So, of course, there's a big UFO story coming out, coming out on the same day that there is a mysterious Chinese payment to Hunter Biden in the news. Surprise, surprise. And it looks like Fox News website is completely broken. The best part about this story was that the the people who the bankers that flagged the payments said that there was no obvious services rendered. I love that. Who knows? What are they paying for? Do you think the UFO people are sad that the thing they love and are passionate about
Starting point is 00:45:50 has been ruined by the Biden administration? No. I think they must be, right? I think they're just stoked that people are talking about it. No, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. There was a tougher show about it. No, no, the UFO people turned on Fox News and they reported Hunter Biden
Starting point is 00:46:02 and they immediately called their friends and said, we got UFO news coming. You're like, brace yourselves, it's about to happen. Maybe that's good. Hunter Biden and they immediately called their friends and we got UFO news coming. You're like, brace yourselves. It's about to happen. Maybe that's good. Biden's in the news. I was thinking if you're a person, you're like the Biden administration is just releasing all kinds of fake information under the guise of UFOs to distract from Hunter. But maybe the information they're releasing is legitimate.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And that way you can really distract people. You know what I mean? Like, are they making stuff up to cover up hundreds crimes they're stretching nonsense they have these minor reports where it's like a guy saw a thing who knows and now they're like look over here check this out in an email released from the house oversight committee on wednesday a bank secrecy act manager raised concerns the payments did not appear to correspond to any services rendered as well as chinese efforts to target children of politicians. The investigator suggested the bank reevaluate its relationship with the client.
Starting point is 00:46:54 So you had private sector concerns that homeboy over here was taking dirty money from foreign governments. Well, here we are, ladies and gentlemen, with new UFO news breaking as we speak. How about that? I want to I want to I want to explain something to everybody. How money and finance works. You know, they talk about Donald Trump hiring his family and his kids and all that stuff. And I'm like, yeah, it's not an easy thing to do. If you own a business, and let's say you own a car dealership. You're pulling a million bucks a month.
Starting point is 00:47:17 That's like a good amount for a car dealership. Now, I'm not saying profit. That's your revenue. And so you got some, let's say you got a good profit margin. You think, I'm going to hire my son son and I'm going to pay him six figures. Good luck. You need a clearly defined job, a job title, a legitimate job title, a recognizable job title with clearly defined hours and structure. Cause what's going to happen is government's going to come for you and say, what does your son do? Why are you giving your son this salary?
Starting point is 00:47:44 We have questions. Why? Let's say you as an individual make a million bucks a year. You're in the highest tax bracket possible. So you're given like half of your paycheck to the government. Let's say you get a paycheck for $10,000, cut that in half, give the government 5,000. That's how it works. Let's say you decide to hire your son and pay him 5,000 bucks a month. Well, now you've cut your cash in half. For your $5,000, you're still cutting that in half. Now the government's only getting $25,000. Your son, who only makes $100,000, is in a lower tax bracket.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Now the government's not getting that $5,000 they thought every month. They're getting only like $35,000 or $4,000. This is why you cannot just give money to your family and your kids unless you have outlined clearly in the documents, in your corporate paperwork, and all of that stuff. It is not, I don't want to act like it's a difficult thing. I'm just saying, if there's no clear services rendered, it is not surprising that the bank
Starting point is 00:48:36 staff guy was like, uh, we should reevaluate working with this guy because that clearly is going to put them in, like, this bank is probably like, we're going to get, we're going to, they're going to file discovery on us. We're going to put them in like this bank is probably like we're going to get we're going to they're going to file discovery on us we're going to get investigated this guy's clearly got illegitimate dealings going on we can clearly see it so he's required to to look for that exactly under federal law there's all sort of this huge thing and and this is exactly why so it's it's it is not so easy in business just to have money and give money away first of all you can't give money away there's limits there's tax there's there's it is not so easy in business just to have money and give money away. First of all, you can't give money away. There's limits.
Starting point is 00:49:07 There's tax. There's there's gift limits per year plus lifetime gift limits. If you fire if you if you hire family members and they don't have clearly defined titles that are recognizable and they're not being paid a market competitive salary, they are going to come after you. It's wild. I'm you know, look, you start you start a business and all of a sudden you're a republican that's that's what they say right and the reason why these democrats don't
Starting point is 00:49:29 understand i think it's because of taxes i'm like it's not just that it's like you might want to pay someone a premium and now you've got to argue why you're paying someone a premium oh this guy's really really good at his job he should get paid more and then they're like you're paying him 40 above market why we want to know why that money's going to him and not to us. And that's the kind of stuff they could go after you whenever they feel like it. Like I don't want to do the whole, you know, conservative. Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot thing.
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Starting point is 00:50:46 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. But I should point out that Donald Trump is currently on trial for fraud in New York State. And none of the banks filed any reports like this whatsoever. No, they're defending it. Didn't they all defend him? This was normal.
Starting point is 00:51:08 They've all. In fact, it's been the exact opposite. And they all got paid back perfectly because they paid back with with, you know, with profit. And that's why the banks were willing to continue to do this. And yet we have another situation here where the banks were raising red flags were filing potential fraud reports and nothing seems to happen well they're not supposed to be mad about the biden's you're only supposed to be mad about the trumps the biden's are this is the three-tier system of justice yeah right and i heard you quote this the other day um that it's it's it's the three tiers and i keep saying this
Starting point is 00:51:38 over and over so it used to be two now it's three right so tier one that is like that's the elites that's that's hillary that's if your last name is Obama, Clinton, Biden, Epstein at one point, you are fine, right? Well, until you're a loose end, like Chauvin, for example. He's a loose end, so gotta get rid of him. So- Well, he was never in their club. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But I just mean loose ends. That's tier one. You can do whatever you want for the most part. Then tier two. So tier two, this is like, this is like normal, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:11 you get pulled over for speeding, that kind of thing. That's your normie kind of law. That's your normal stuff. And then tier three is Trump and Trump supporters and Trump and Trump supporters have a whole extra set of laws that, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:22 okay, maybe you were just walking through the capitol on your way out of the capitol that means you get beat over the head beat it beat in the back with a baton by the police even as you're complying with their orders or how about your your uh a married couple who shows up an hour and a half after people have already we're already leaving you have no idea what's going on there's no signs there's no cops there's no barriers you walk up and look around and then leave and they accuse you of all of the same crimes and sentence you to a year in jail that happened i met i met some of these people i met him at a restaurant and they said hour and a
Starting point is 00:52:57 half after people had already left and all that was done they walk up and there's the building doors open no barricades no signs signs, nothing. There's no, they're not anywhere near any of the fighting or broken glass and they walk up and they're looking around and they wave
Starting point is 00:53:08 and then they say, okay, whatever and then they leave and the next thing they know, six, seven months later, they're getting served for criminal charges for having just walked around
Starting point is 00:53:16 in DC. Shout out to Owen Troyer who's currently behind bars who didn't even go into the Capitol and was at a permitted rally. But doesn't matter. But they just brought up all of his posts.
Starting point is 00:53:28 This is what they're saying. You think the wrong thing. You say the wrong thing. You're in trouble. And we want you to be behind bars. But I want to stress in the three tiers of justice, a slight correction. The first tier is, as you described,
Starting point is 00:53:40 but the second tier is you own a bodega and a guy comes in and smashes everything and the cops don't show up for any reason so that means you're in this no man's land the laws aren't enforced against you and they won't be enforced for you then you have the bottom tier of being the trump trump supporters the manga people where you're not getting you could be swatted 15 times ain't nobody gonna help you and you fart in public and they're going to lock you up. Yes. This is,
Starting point is 00:54:07 this is so in the Russian civil war during the bullshit revolution with bullshit's first gotten power. The idea was in Libby. We were chatting on this before we got here. And if you read always with honor by Peter Rangel, who was the general that fought against the communist, I actually got to visit his grave in Belgrade a couple of weeks ago. It was just amazing.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And this right, it's right in this little alcove in a church and it's not marked or anything before you go into the church but everybody knows that it's that's that's general wrangel and his his estate is completely refused even now after the fall of the soviet union to have his body uh transferred back to russia because that's where he wanted to go because that um that church specifically is dedicated to the Russian imperial family, the Romanovs. And that's from his perspective, he was fighting for the rightful rulers of the country and as a patriot. And so he said in this memoir that at one point that if you were a criminal who was caught with a knife, well, the criminal doesn't know any better. He's responding
Starting point is 00:55:04 to socioeconomic factors that are out know any better. He's responding to socioeconomic factors that are out of his control. It's not his fault that he's lashing out this way. Society has wronged him. We must take care of him. We must help him and put him back on the street. But if you get caught with a knife, if you get caught with one, even if you haven't used it, now you're a criminal. Now you're a domestic terrorist and you must be treated as an enemy of the state so a hundred years ago in russia this is exactly what they were doing yeah and also because i've been looking at the gulag archipelago which i know a lot of people have been talking about lately but um solzhenitsyn talks about when he was in prison at the lubyanka uh which i don't know how you spell that but whatever when how
Starting point is 00:55:46 when he was in prison and he was being interrogated and everything spelled in russian by the way you spell it in russian yeah i would never do that right um but he talked about how people would come in and they would be interrogated and they would mention a former colleague who maybe they had been friendly with and then the next thing they know that former colleague is getting dragged in and being interrogated. And it's just this perpetual guilt by association, even though there hasn't been any guilt at any point, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:11 soldier Neeson was dragged in while he was serving in the military and he was dragged in for, you know, crimes. And it turned out that his biggest crime was that he had an old friend who was on the front lines of the opposing side and they were sending each other letters they were like still friendly he was communicating with the enemy right do you think awareness of the multi-tier justice system is strong enough to affect how people are
Starting point is 00:56:35 going to vote like do you think that people who are on the fence have seen what's happened to the people involved in january 6th and will i hope. I hope so. I hope so, but do you think? It's not January 6th. It's that a bodega worker got stabbed or they were trying to kill him and he stabbed a guy and they lock him up. That there was a family, this is a big story. Looters came in and just destroyed everything for no reason and the family's life and savings were wiped out.
Starting point is 00:56:59 They lost 20 grand in product. Regular people are experiencing that. Anarcho-tyranny. Yeah. Or like when you go to the store and you can't buy anything they lost 20 grand in product regular people are experiencing that anarcho tyranny yeah or like when you go to the store and you can't buy anything without searching around for someone to unlock a cabinet and there's nobody working and it's just a self-checkout everyone's just getting high in the back my favorite is in chicago the walgreens where there's no products it's just little signs you know it's uh no no no you it's a big empty room with a with a terminal and you walk up and type in what you want.
Starting point is 00:57:26 And then after you pay, someone will walk out and carry the product to you. Interesting. Yeah, crazy. That's sort of like how grocery stores used to be. My great-grandfather had a grocery store in Brooklyn and he would be behind the counter and my great-grandmother and people would come in and say what they wanted and they would bring them the stuff. You know what that is?
Starting point is 00:57:44 That's a form of rationing. Yeah. That's actually a form of rationing. It sure is. It's not just against shoplifting. That's Soviet Union that, you know, Tanya Tay will tell me that she remembers, not from when she was like a little older,
Starting point is 00:57:57 but when she was younger, that if you wanted to go to the store, that you had to get your ration stamps and then you went to the store and you waited in line and you waited and you waited and you waited and you kept waiting and then eventually if you had a you know the specific stamp for as you say the item that you were looking for then you handed it to the part to the worker then they would go into the back then they would get it then they would bring it out because people don't understand that in in eastern europe in russia and belarus ukraine after the fall of the soviet union it was a complete wild wild west free for
Starting point is 00:58:30 all for almost a complete decade and crime and and like actual highway robbers like we say highway robbery but like actual highway bandits that was a huge thing you would get some of that stuff and some people would would you know gang up on you right on the outside so you had to go in in uh you know members when society collapses and you are inside of it um all sorts of horrible things happen i remember covering the freddy gray riots and it was like everybody knew everybody knew that at a certain time like it's all just gonna go have you ever uh had had the Eastern European wafer cake? Which kind?
Starting point is 00:59:06 Oh, like the one, like the full cake, the layers. So it's, it's wafer. Yeah. All the time. Sweetened condensed milk layer. Sweetened condensed milk. And when I was in Ukraine, they told me, well, what happened was they had, didn't, they had no flour.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You have, you have nothing. So what do you do when your guests are going to come over? You boil in condensed milk and then you put a thin wafer. You pour some on it you put another wafer on top you pour another layer and that's how you make a cake to have but it's literally just condensed milk yeah tanya's uh tanya's mom makes that it's good though occasions it's really yeah i know it's like all sugar but it's interesting it's like something for special occasions that was an adaptation to the times that they were in right i mean i think about
Starting point is 00:59:42 you how many kissinger died yeah whoa it just just passed in the chat here really didn't pass in the chat but they just mentioned it so he was in our chat when he died oh i was just gonna say i mean let's get it ladies and gentlemen huge news right now 8 45 p.m breaking henry kissinger who shaped world affairs under two presidents dies at 100 if we're on the members only show i'd have a lot more to say yeah but uh we'll save it for the members only show i will i have a special special statement for everybody um when we start the members only show but for now we'll keep it professional so uh jack you were saying no i was gonna say there was an interview that he gave recently um you know kind of on the heels of one of these summits where he was kind of,
Starting point is 01:00:26 you could tell that he was, it was sort of like on the way out in the interview itself. And you could see him being very self-critical in this interview. And, you know, let's, let's keep in mind that for all of his work during the cold war, this was also a guy who was one of the main architects of globalism and the current system of that globalism. And he came out and basically said, maybe we got it wrong. And maybe we shouldn't have pushed for all of this open border stuff. Maybe we shouldn't have pushed for this migration stuff. Maybe we should have realized that countries do have security concerns and the John Mearsheimers of the world. he didn't say all this but it's clearly what he was he was referring to because you could see that he was reflecting i think and i remember i was in i was at davos where um in 2022
Starting point is 01:01:16 where uh kissinger came up and gave this huge speech blaming the blaming nato for the um nato expansion on the war in ukraine and it was suddenly like wait kissinger of all people is coming out saying these things and it's almost like you know it's like towards the end as as he can see the light fading you know him kind of going back and and maybe re-examining some of his steps and realizing that they probably weren't the best moves you know the meme where it's uh death playing the crane game the first thing that popped in my head and he keeps going literally the first thing that popped you know he's like norm mcdonald is henry kissinger even
Starting point is 01:01:53 even in this thing well now someone can finally make it of him just going kissinger got him that's it so what do you think norm's gonna say to kissinger when they meet dude i can't believe it this guy was so evil man henry kissinger a scholar a statesman and celebrity diplomat who wielded unparalleled power over u.s foreign policy throughout the administrations of nixon and gerald ford who for decades afterward and a consultant and writer proffered opinions that shaped global politics and business died november 29th at his home in connecticut he was 100 look i never like celebrating death you know people dying is always bad i wish he wasn't such a nasty nasty guy i can't say however regardless of however you feel about it the world will will be better off unfortunately i i'm trying to be very nice but there's just some people I cannot.
Starting point is 01:02:46 He's a bad guy. He's a very, very bad guy. He's got quotes that will make you throw up, this dude. There's this article from Indie 100 that says the Is Henry Kissinger Dead Twitter account is tired of waiting for him to die. This is from 2022. And they were like, we didn't think this would be such a long-term commitment. Which I think is kind of funny. I think there were a lot of people who were uh not expecting this but i don't know he uh here it is is henry kissant did kissinger die minutes ago and uh no no still no and then 10 minutes ago yes 12 already up to 12 000 retweets and he's been doing it for two years that's wild wow
Starting point is 01:03:26 look dude he's an architect for so much foreign policy garbage foreign intervention nation building disgusting racist comments i mean this dude is just i don't i could not imagine a you know when i look at these serial killers and these really evil nasty people who do really evil things i'm like yeah that's there's real evil in this world. When I look at Kissinger, I'm like, but he was smarter about how he went about the awful things he did so he could maintain power while he did it.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Look, I mean, so you got a guy who came up with and executed the theory of rapprochement with communist China, with Chairman Mao, right? So he flies over, because remember, people don't realize this, that people know something made the meme. Yeah, there's the meme, finally. Mao, right? So he flies over, because remember people don't realize this that- Oh, somebody, I'm sorry. People know that Nixon went over. Yeah, there's the meme, finally.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Oh, there it is. So people know that Nixon went over to, you know, kind of open up China and Nixon goes to China and this is what peels China away from the Soviet Union and eventually leads to, you know, winning the war. Well, Kissinger not only was the architect, Kissinger actually went there first. Right, that's true.
Starting point is 01:04:22 And met with Zhou Enlai in a secret trip that nobody knew about to kind of pave the way for Nixon going there. And so, you know, Tim, to your point, you know, it takes a very cold, you know, like just unemotional, unfeeling mind to come up with the idea of, yeah, I'm going to sit down with Chairman Mao,
Starting point is 01:04:46 probably one of the most murderous men to ever walk the face of the earth but it's gonna help us politically because they they look at us like chickens we are just chickens to lay eggs for them to harvest so they're not thinking about you and your family the pain and suffering you go through they don't care about what happens to your friends who died mysteriously in their sleep. They don't want to answer any of those questions and they don't care. That's why these people are disgusting and evil. These are the sociopaths who fight for political power, gain political power, and this is the corruption we need to weed out of our government. And we can. We can do it. And I think we're winning. And I'm happy to see see it every day there are more and more victories and every day there are more and more signs that
Starting point is 01:05:28 we are headed towards something better yeah so i'm i'm i'm glad again i don't i don't i don't like ever no matter who it is having a celebration of some death because the reality is the dude should have been a better person you know life is precious even even someone as awful as him but you have to recognize sometimes there are people that cause too much destruction. And so at the very least, we can be like, well, I'm not going to as Trump was not going to cheer for his death. But I am going to be like the world is going to be better off without his foreign policy ideas and all that. Yeah. But the legacy of anything is still there.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Right. Even if he's dead, the impact of this isn't he made. It's true but i'm hoping we get a good trumpian statement where he was like sad day hearing henry kissinger died he was a great man who did atrocious things and evil and you know and he never supported well knowing trump would be like and he never supported me he never once came in you know and uh and my my favorite all-time one of of trump responding to someone's death which of course obviously the the rbg one is now just just it has become its own thing um it's it's actually overshadowed anything that ruth bader ginsburg did in her entire life
Starting point is 01:06:37 yeah is trump's reaction to the news of her death and um but there's the right after trump got elected and and tim as you say sort of the the psychic energy um you know as young called it the um uh the uh the the world spirit you know this this idea that that you know the um what's the what's the phrase the unconscious the collective unconscious collective unconscious that he is my fourth show of the day um that um when trump is right after he was elected before he was inaugurated castro dies and then everyone's you know coming to him like oh mr you know president mr president-elect uh castro is dead he's passed away finally he's like i want to come up with a formal statement and you know put out something you know very magnanimous as the president and trump just picks up twitter and goes fidel castro is dead i was gonna ask wasn't kissinger just in
Starting point is 01:07:31 china recently i feel like he was i just saw news it can be like how could he possibly be in china he's 100 years old yeah there was something about him i read it just his ghost is there does anyone i'll look it up i don't recall he could have been at the asean summit uh yeah which was in san francisco uh i saw that he was in china i don't remember what it was exactly but he had something to do with he traveled back and forth so he set up a foreign policy obviously he did a lot yeah um yeah that was very july 2020 uh july 22nd 2023 he's been he's been going back and forth to China ever since. Yeah, for a long time. Yeah. He was first and he kept doing it over and over and over.
Starting point is 01:08:09 And so, I mean, if you want to talk about someone who's been, you know, just at the forefront of the U.S.-China relationship since it began in the modern era with Chairman Mao and the Chinese Communist Party, that's Henry Kissinger. And, you know, obviously someone who, you know, and I'm going to be actually flying to Japan tomorrow. So I'm speaking at CPAC Tokyo on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So, you know, I'm sure this will be kind of cast a, you know, a different angle on a looking at the system that we have now the relationships even the the multilateral alliances that the united states has in east asia the security alliances you know it really was kissinger who played a huge part in setting this all up i just messaged cassandra she was like what's going on what did i miss and then she said i just the people who hate war are like wow well i i you know trying to be very professional the people who hate war are probably jumping up and down dancing on their tables right now why because i heard the reverse yeah the tank the tankies are like war yeah the tankies went like full all right it's it's past nine the probably. Thank you. So fully orgasmic right now. Fully.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Fully. Yeah. That's wild, man. You know, seeing Trump win was we were talking about this earlier, actually. What everybody remembers the day everyone remembers where they were when Trump won. Wild, right? We were talking about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Everybody was crying. I was hanging out Cassandra and Cassandra was crying, but she was crying for a different reason. She was crying tears of joy. Everyone else in the room was sitting there covered in sweat, and a bunch of them were legit bawling. It was wild for me to see adults cry over an election like this. I thought that was crazy, too. I was laughing. I mean, because the thing, too, is it's like we've been through a number of elections and it's like, OK, now we have a different president.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I wonder how this one's going to go. Yeah. You know, I remember talking to people in the theater community at the time and everyone was miserable and they were crying and they were sad and they thought it was literally the end of the world. And I was like, well, why don't we wait and see what he does? You know, anything's possible. Like anything's. Yeah, but they're all bad. I mean, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:10:24 But there was a specific like fear and hatred like clinton was bad bush was i mean this is like what i remember i think i was living no i wasn't living when uh i was still in texas when trump got elected and so there were people i was in college and there were people who were so excited i remember one of the fraternities got in trouble for hanging a like Trump 2016 banner out of their door. They had to like take it down and get a fine or something. Then there was like all of these different like, you know, social justice organizations being like, we stand together. They will not divide us, whatever. They were allowed to do whatever they wanted. I mean, there was a complete divide and hysteria because it was totally built on the emotions of these people who felt as though their lives personally were threatened.
Starting point is 01:11:06 As if Donald Trump would come down their chimney and personally be mean to them. Meanwhile, he had the first gay cabinet member. Yes. Like, okay. I don't know that there is anyone who was afraid of Trump in 2016 who had accurate information on him. I mean, I was up in New York. I was at the party. That was pretty baller.
Starting point is 01:11:24 That was definitely one of the best nights. I was at the Sp. That was pretty baller. That was definitely one of the best nights. I was at the Sputnik office because that's where Cassandra had worked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they kept saying that Russia was supporting Trump. And I'm like, dude, everybody in this building was for Hillary. And when Trump won, they were losing it.
Starting point is 01:11:40 It was wild that night. I just never forget when the New York Times had that probability meter that was like 90 greater than 99 for hillary and it slowly started to move i remember when it hit 50 and people started being like no no cassandra sitting there like oh my god oh my god and then i remember when it was greater than 99 for trump and there's a lot of crying but cassandra was the only one crying tears of joy yeah i remember watching it at like whatever after midnight and I feel like someone, some like Democrat I knew was being like, well, but Pennsylvania, maybe it never else is like,
Starting point is 01:12:12 no, it's over. Like it's over. So that, that night I, that day I had been working in doing live streams all around Philadelphia and actually ran into James O'Keefe at one point. Um, uh, like a funny story about that. Maybe we'll reveal it sometime. Philadelphia and actually ran into James O'Keefe at one point. Like a funny story about that. Maybe we'll reveal it sometime. Now, do it now.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Well, I'd want to talk to James first. If it's so funny, just tell us live right now. Well, because he was in the middle of doing one of these things. You instigator. So I don't want to break his OPSEC, so I'm not going to do that. I'm a middle child. What can I say? We realized that I remember I was driving around looking for the different,
Starting point is 01:12:49 so like the after work rush in Philly. So that was when you would really get your major Philadelphia vote out would always come in the after work rush. So usually when people vote on election day, you get, it comes in three tranches. This is before, this is like when we actually have like real elections.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Right. Like the crazy- What a quaint time. The the crazy Gaga that we have now that we call an election, which is really just a ballot. And in Philly, you're pulling the levers. Yeah. So, so this is, you know, early morning. So pre-work, then lunchtime, then there's a huge dead time. And then there's the after work rush. The after work rush never came. I went to North Philly. I went to West Philly. I went to South Philly. Just never happened. And I said, Philadelphia doesn't have a rush. Trump's going to win Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Trump wins Pennsylvania. He's going to be the president. So I drove to 38th Street Station, bought a ticket right at the spot or an owner spot up to New York, straight to the party. Nice. Let's jump to this story let's get a little political here it's from snr.com black lives matter leader who endorsed trump tells fox news the democratic party is not for us will we get uh you know let me just we'll throw
Starting point is 01:13:58 it back we'll go back in time the meme war was so much fun it was just all the memes were hilarious excuse me excuse me will be fun because elon has just declared new one it's and that's my point this is what i bring up with a a black lives matter leader saying you know what the democratic party's not for us trump is winning uh i should say he's improving among younger voters among black and latino voters joe biden's just in a horrible position And I have no idea how they could reasonably swap out Joe Biden at this point. Are we going to have a resurgence of 2016? Is it going to be the great meme war, the jokes, the Trump debate style?
Starting point is 01:14:39 I think that would be great because that really got people excited. It got people excited and thought that everyone was on the same team, you know, and I wasn't part of it at all, but it did look fun at the time. From the outside? It did look fun from the outside. And you could kind of get the sense that something was coming and you weren't expecting it. And then boom, there you were. I don't know anything about the meme war. I never had conversations with... Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Never had conversations with... Excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more,
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Starting point is 01:16:04 not in any way involved in memory pillow salesman so i'm just i am but a humble pillow merchant and hannah clara just want to make sure that i've been looking at your screen throughout the evening and creep and just i don't know what creed did you say creed and it just doesn't seem to be the MyPillow.com website. Yeah, you must not be a very good salesman. I'm so concerned of all the sales. If I hadn't bought one by now. I'm so concerned about all the sales that you might be missing when your order, you
Starting point is 01:16:33 have to get it delivered in time for the, I just don't know why you're not doing this. Christmas. Only we had a good pillow merchant in the room to convince me to buy something. But isn't it actually really wild how hard they went after a guy who sells pillows? It's like, is this your biggest threat? But his reaction to them calling his pillows lumpy was the best one. Oh, that was amazing. I mean.
Starting point is 01:16:53 He's like, how dare you? Don't call my pillows lumpy. That's when they attacked his integrity. Yeah. This product. Which I honestly respect, you know? I do too. Everyone in the world respected that.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Because I even saw people in Silicon Valley retweeting that saying like never attack a founder's business right right never do this in your lumpy pillow like you're lumpy you're lumpy you're like that's just just lights up just lights the guy up just goes and especially because he's known as like and i i talked to mike right like he's he's legitimately one of the nicest guys um he's an extremely devout christian i mean he will straight up like if you need to i've i've heard him say he said this publicly so i'll just say it um he'll straight up say like if you get stuck somewhere or if you want to come he will send a private jet for you wow like wow anywhere if you if you truly need it and you're trying to get somewhere and you're in a bind like i've heard him do that for people so many times and even people that aren't in politics that's just someone
Starting point is 01:17:48 he knows that is trouble he's oh send the jet don't worry about it everything will be fine and and he'll just do that and then just just i don't know how he just i think takes up the price we need to make sure the younger generation that wasn't i mean look it's it's going to be 2024 so it's nearly 10 years since uh the 2016 race it'll be it'll be eight and there's going to be 2024. So it's nearly 10 years since the 2016 race. It'll be eight. And there's going to be a lot of early 20s Gen Z people who are not old enough to have seen the meme magic. Beautiful times. But really, I'm not making a joke.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Real quick, people need to understand this. Meme magic was a reference to the very strange occurrences that happened online where memes so on 4chan for instance when you make a post you get an id number and weird things would happen with numbers lining up in certain ways it was it was it was it's just wild the the serendipity and the coincidence around people posting memes and how weird things are to coincide with the posts well and not just posts, but the way that it actually affected and influenced reality. And so it had an influence
Starting point is 01:18:49 on the real world. Hillary's Health, I think, probably was one of the biggest ones of these. So we started hashtag Hillary's Health and we kept saying, there's something wrong with her. There's something wrong. And at the time, she was like... Was that before the 9-11 incident thing? Did you get into that?
Starting point is 01:19:06 So, do you want to hear the story or not? I mean, I was there. I wanted to take the peeps story. Yeah, maybe in the third hour. Or maybe at AmFest,
Starting point is 01:19:16 also promo code post, which I hear Tim will... Yes, we're... I believe we're confirmed for AmFest. Yeah. Do you have any guests for AmFest, Tim?
Starting point is 01:19:24 I don't know if we're allowed to say it, are we? I got a text that said to go ahead and say it. Oh, okay. Yeah, Tucker Carlson. So TimCast, Tucker Carlson will be live on stage. Amfest.com. Get your tickets now. Do not come crying to me when the thing is sold out,
Starting point is 01:19:40 which happens every single year. One of these things, people go, oh, Pozo, can you get me in? Give me a couple of tickets, a couple of comps, man. Like like i know you got the hookup i know you know charlie like i ain't doing it like i'm just straight up not doing it so yeah charlie i think yeah i know charlie's gonna be on this is the on stage so you're bringing the show out right the show is gonna be on stage at amfest and our guests i believe are tucker carlson and charlie kirk yes it's gonna be awesome so that's that's that, you're doing it. Patrick,
Starting point is 01:20:05 that David, I know Tucker's going to be broadcasting from there. Bannon's war room. I'm going to be doing my show. Charlie's doing his show. Patrick, but David is going to be also live streaming from there. He's not just appearing.
Starting point is 01:20:15 He's also going to be doing live. So like, you're going to get the value attainment. Like those guys are awesome. I love it. It's just everybody. I think it's literally just everyone's going to be there. We're going to would be there we're gonna have a booth post-millennial it's got a booth you know so if i mean like imagine not going to amfest it was it's not easy to do like um
Starting point is 01:20:33 to get a doing a show on stage like this requires a lot i remember last year it was wild yeah it was definitely wild and so we have to as soon as the show show wraps, we're on a jet right back. Because we got to do the show Tuesday. I got to do the morning show too. But when we were talking and we said we want to do a big show, they hit us up. Well, if you get in trouble, I know a guy. He's got a jet. You have to buy a lot of pillows, I heard.
Starting point is 01:20:56 The whole jet is covered in pillows. Amfest, they're taking care of us. They're helping take care of everything. It's fantastic. And so I'm really excited for this. They were like, you know, let's get Tucker on stage. It should be cool. It's going to be awesome. Because really excited for this. They were like, you know, let's get, let's get Tucker on stage. It'll be cool.
Starting point is 01:21:06 It's going to be awesome. Because I feel like Tucker coming on the show is a long time coming. Yeah. I feel like a lot of people have wanted to see the mashup. Well, they used to be
Starting point is 01:21:11 at the exact same time. Right. So you couldn't, I mean, there was no way to make that work. Yeah. We weren't,
Starting point is 01:21:16 Tim couldn't go on Tucker. Tucker couldn't go on Tim. But after he left Fox, we actually, I don't know, I think our people reached out and it was a like, oh yeah, for sure. We'll figure it out. And then we just never did. It's the same thing that happens with
Starting point is 01:21:29 Trump. We get like, we had Laura Trump on the show and she's like, yeah, of course, let's make it happen. I'm like, cool. And then we just never do it. And so I'm like, I don't know. I kind of feel like if slash when we have Trump on, it should, it should be, it should, shouldn't just be us pursuing it for the sake of pursuing it. It should be at a time where it really matters. Speaking of which, so I did actually discuss this. Speaking of AmFest, I did discuss this with Charlie earlier. And so we were kind of going through, because I knew there were some names that haven't come out yet. So on Trump, no news yet.
Starting point is 01:22:01 No news, yes or no. Leaning towards, I mean, come on. He really ought to come. You know, I would say it's probably likely. He gets a hero's welcome. But no news. Vivek is confirmed. Chris Christie, just total no response.
Starting point is 01:22:17 He just didn't say anything. No response. And again, like Turning Point reached out to every single, Turning Point actually. But you know, Chris Christie just the other day on the news was saying how his campaign was really picking up steam. No, it was picking up cream, actually. Oh, is that what it was?
Starting point is 01:22:30 That was the, yeah, he was at Krispy Kreme. Yeah, he was picking up cream. That makes more sense. So, no, you just, you must have heard of him, or maybe he misspoke. So Nikki Haley, you know, probably not. Ron DeSantis, Governor Ron DeSantis. um, again, because the offer went out everywhere. So this-
Starting point is 01:22:48 DeSantis is coming now. It's the opposite. So, um, there was a conversation that was being held. Uh, the conversation is now over. Um, from what Charlie told me, you know, just prior to the show to now, uh, Ron DeSantis will not be attending AmFest that day. He found out i was coming after after i described turning point snap after i just described every single entity organization group
Starting point is 01:23:12 all the hottest podcasts in the entire country are going to be there and but they're all their heights are publicly known many of which many of one of which he was just on, many of which are from Florida. Yeah, he has decided to decline, to come to a turning point. What is crazy? I think that's crazy, too. Which is the largest conservative grassroots event in the entire country. He basically says that he's running for president. Yeah, and he doesn't like the base.
Starting point is 01:23:40 And he's going to debate a governor tomorrow, right? Yeah. And he doesn't care about the- For some strange reason. He just keeps, it's like he keeps saying that he just doesn't care about the base conservatives in this country he doesn't want their vote he goes on all of the other networks he snubs turning point like it's really crazy how he does that and thinks that people what does he actually think people are going to come around well so be like oh you won't show up you won't talk to anybody and And they keep saying that.
Starting point is 01:24:09 And it's very strange to me. It's perplexing because I've been at turning point events in the past where Ron DeSantis spoke and it's prior to him announcing that he was running against Trump, but where he was given a standing ovation by the crowd, they loved him. And I don't think it would be an unfriendly, hostile event in any way. That being said, it's a primary, bro. You've got to go into these things. But the perception of it is just so bad. If you look weak, you look terrified. If he showed up, the response from the Trump supporters would be to shake his hand and say,
Starting point is 01:24:42 I respect everything you're doing in Florida. I hope you understand why we're supporting Trump. I think you're doing a good job. They wouldn't attack him. And that's his opportunity to make a case. You know what I think? I don't think he has an argument. I don't think he actually has formulated
Starting point is 01:24:54 how he actually says, you should vote for me over Trump. He doesn't have one. He just says, I'm going to fight. I'm going to fight back. He'll make these odd sort of persuasions about, uh, Oh, personnel. Well, personnel, you know, personnel is going to be going to be going to be key. Okay. But what's the argument, right? You've got a guy who's got, you know, just, just put my, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:16 dirty political stride. I just had on for a second here. You've got a guy who's got higher name ID than almost anyone in the entire world. Someone who's by far the most famous conservative on the face of the planet. So explain to me then, like when given all that, and oh, by the way, the majority of the party, because remember you run in the party,
Starting point is 01:25:38 then you run to the general, right? It's one, then the other, it's not straight to general. So they keep making these weird general election argument arguments, which are completely baseless, by the way, that only Ron DeSantis can win the general, It's not straight to general. So they keep making these weird general election arguments, which are completely baseless, by the way, that only Ron DeSantis can win the general, which there's just no evidence.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Well, he can't win the general if he can't win the nomination. But most, I'm not going to say half, the majority of the party feels that Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election. They feel that January 6th was about protesting a stolen election and they want Trump to go back and finish the job. That's a really easy sell for a political candidate. If you've got someone who's arguing against that, it just comes across as really self-centered. It comes across as really selfish. And quite frankly, it comes across as politically stupid because he could have gone. And I said this so many times behind the
Starting point is 01:26:26 scenes all you had to do was say uh donald trump has unfinished business and i'm going to be supporting him in 2024 then regardless of what happened in that election all of maga would remember that de sanis had stood by the man who put him in the governor's mansion of Florida, instead of running this insane betrayal of a backstabbing, raising millions of dollars, laundering it through the Republican Governors Association, putting it then into the governor's race in Florida, which was a non-competitive race, taking those millions of dollars away from competitive races all around the country. Democrats win. Then they blame that on donald trump then he rolls that same money which again which was supposed to go to gubernatorial candidates into his own presidential
Starting point is 01:27:11 campaign this is where never back down starts because they roll that over in the federal you can't get a go one-to-one but they brought most of it over the bulk of it and then claims all the time that he's just on a national book tour. He's not really running for president. That was weird. That really pissed me off, too. And all the while, remember, you chose this. You all chose this. You could have sat back and been handed the baton, the mantle of MAGA as the heir apparent
Starting point is 01:27:41 and literally walked into the White house in 2028 but obviously there was someone in his ear saying you don't want to be tarnished with that brush right there was someone who talked him out of seeing trump and the potential role as an heir apparent as a good thing look i just i either look you you can say that what you want but at the end of the day i mean he's his own man but wouldn't that be what the was? Because they had a somewhat positive relationship at one point. And then it was like, well, you could run for president now and challenge Trump. Or you could wait four years and do it then. Someone had to convince him that the timing was right now.
Starting point is 01:28:15 To me, it seems like the argument must have been you don't want to be branded with the MAGA mantle. But what argument is that? Because we know the core of the Republican voters are MAGA. They do support Donald Trump. The thing that gets me is that they don't recognize it as a betrayal. They think that it's just some sort of, oh, it's just a free for all. And, you know, so anyone can run for president and it's fine. Excuse me?
Starting point is 01:28:37 You were a backbench congressman that nobody can. You don't even talk about your own accomplishments from when you were in the house because you don't have any he was another guy at dinner when we were at trump tower or trump hotel in dc and oh by the way that's right you were eating dinner out of a building on the front of it was the name of the man that gave you the ability because you know you were going to run against marco rubio but then marco said that he was going come back in. So you cucked out of that and said, well, what am I going to do? What am I going to do? And then, okay, because you didn't want to run against little Marco.
Starting point is 01:29:10 So then you said, all right, well, I've got this infrastructure statewide. Maybe I can roll that into a governor's race. So you went and did that and you were about to lose to Adam Putnam. And then you came to Trump and then you begged and begged and begged. And don't even, they said, oh, I didn't do that. Yes, he did. He did. Yeah, he went and begged for the endorsement.
Starting point is 01:29:26 And Trump was going to get behind Putnam because everybody thought that Putnam was going to get going to be the guy. I was like, fine. We wanted a governor who could win. And remember, Florida was a 50 50 state back then. Andrew Gillum, right. The you know, the the coke addled sex fiend came within. That's right. That was a crazy crazy story they found within just a few votes like like less than a percentage of of becoming the governor of florida and if it was only for donald trump and only for the maga grassroots who went down there after the election using the slogan i'm just gonna say it tim i'm gonna say it hashtag stop the steel you're gonna say something else hashtag stop the steel to fight for ron desantis uh that that put that over and won broward county and there's no
Starting point is 01:30:13 recognition of any of that work there's no recognition of those rallies there's no recognition or even thanks for putting you there it's i'm gonna run against you because I think I'm better. And yes, I'm sure there are people who, you know, found some way to, you know, use verbal judo to be able to say that it's not betrayal, but it is. And I'm sorry, it just is. See, that makes me want to know who did it, like what part of the Republican donor class or what political operative was like, this is a great idea. We should do it. I wish that we could have a name because that would be interesting to know who twisted one political career because you know donald trump has a lot to offer the country he could only be president for four more years who is there is
Starting point is 01:30:54 a darker potential read on that um you know because you know we were just talking about kissinger right so who would want to talk someone into destroying their own political future by convincing them to do a political suicide run against the most famous conservative in a generation? Somebody who wants the neolibs and the neocons to regain power and- Bingo. Push them all out.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Right, so you incite a MAGA civil war. Yep. Which is exactly what happens. That is what happened, yeah. You pit MAa against each other you split them down the middle and to be fair like i actually expected desantis to run like a real campaign i have no idea he did not run a real campaign it was so bizarre i mean there are ways you can drop bombs on trump from the right but they just they just never did it never came it
Starting point is 01:31:39 was this weird like insinuation kind of thing and then you know they kind of started to now but the the attacks are like really weird and confusing and very like cringe yeah they said he had a foot fetish like right that stuff is weird too like this is the opposite of meme magic so yeah so it's a great example of policies it's a great example of so you're talking about me magic before and by the way there's a whole other theory i have and maybe it's more of a third hour theory that um the lockdowns in 2020 were actually designed to prevent me magic from seeping back into reality so me magic was kept on lockdown uh because remember right all of this station remember folks remember never lose sight of the prize we are in a time traveler
Starting point is 01:32:21 chrono war with the globalists. That's what's really going on right now. What do you mean? Well, Steve Bannon is, okay. Steve Bannon is Baron from the future
Starting point is 01:32:31 who's been sent back to guide his father. There's a height differential with the time space continuum. No, it's, you know, when you get older,
Starting point is 01:32:39 you get shorter. Exactly. But Steve Bannon's actually pretty tall. He's taller than average. Yeah. He's not 7'1". I mean, I wouldn't go that tall. He's taller than average. Yeah. He's not 7'1". I mean, I wouldn't call him tall.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Like, he's younger for him. No, but I'm not saying, like, he's not 5'6", 5'7". No, no, no, no, no, no. But, I mean, to be fair, I mean... Barron's, like, 7 feet tall. But, yeah, Barron is enormous. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:58 But, so, to my point, though, is that we never get the Civil War. So the Civil War, you know, it starts, but then it stops. They have these completely strange attacks on him. They go and make these absolutely boneheaded political decisions, like agreeing to debate a guy who's not even running for president. Right. What's up with that? That's so weird. And platforming him, which only has upside for Newsom, right?
Starting point is 01:33:24 There's no upside for DeSantis. There's no upside for DeSantis. There's no upside for DeSantis and plenty of potential downside. Because if he loses, he looks really bad. And if he wins, like he's supposed to. It doesn't matter. He's supposed to. And he's like, I got somebody who's not running.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Getting him to agree was all Newsom needed. So now suddenly Newsom's got people talking about him as a presidential candidate, which plays into his interest in the Democrat shadow primary that's going on right now, because they want Biden to drop out. They want him to do this. Jill won't let it happen because, I mean, it was rough, dude. And you could see Biden looking at, like, giving the side eye to Jimmy Carter, right, at that funeral yesterday. And you could tell that
Starting point is 01:33:59 he's looking at him going, it's- I also want to be in hospice, you're right. Well, it's rough knowing that that's right what's right around the corner you know what I mean like it's rough seeing it and being confronted with because deep down he knows
Starting point is 01:34:11 right he knows that's well he's got the dementia shuffle going on folks he's not getting better what did he say Trump was a congressman yeah it's earlier today
Starting point is 01:34:19 yeah he said something like Trump was a congressman his Christmas tree fell over it's a sign that everyone thinks he can't make it including the universe there were even reports early on after the christmas tree though after october 7th of his administration it's not great that um that biden was confusing hamas and russia and like the israel ukraine situations he's tired ukraine and iraq for
Starting point is 01:34:40 years in iraq yeah it's hard to keep these things straight especially you can't remember anything on what was going on because he would say why would Putin do that? And they're like, Putin didn't invade Israel. How would he do that? Come on, man, we got to bomb all these other countries in the way. And it's just bad. It's just so bad. But, you know, it's the one thing that's sad to me is that, you know, I the republican party and you know you look at uh a guy like ron desantis who at one point what i think everyone considered to be just a rising star someone had an incredibly bright future and then you look at these guys like i said before like little marco like scott walker um you know tim ryan um tim palenti um teapot remember anyone
Starting point is 01:35:23 remember teapot you guys don't even know what i'm talking about right there were all these young guns out there who were going to be like the next era parent to the party that are just complete nobodies now and it's like good job dude like you decided to troll yourself but this was this was a conversation i got to hear from a lot of people i think i remember ben shapiro saying in particular like with desantis they said either run now or you lose your moment. You don't know that the momentum will be there in four years. And I think that tactic scares a lot of people into bad positions, right? So that's insecurity. What that is, is that's insecurity. So you're saying that I'm not good enough on my own. And deep down, you think that you're not good enough on your own. And so you
Starting point is 01:36:04 have this insecurity that I need the trappings of power. I need the ability to be the governor while I'm running. Therefore, it doesn't matter that I can immediately after winning reelection from the voters of your state, then turn around. And by the way, not just betray Trump, but betray the voters of your own state, your own electorate and say, I'm not going to stay here and serve the people of this state, who, by the way, I've seen their insurance rates go up like insane. I mean, they're being hit by hurricane after hurricane just of insurance rates. Not only are you going to betray the guy that put you in office, you're going to betray the people who literally just voted for you to be their governor and you're going to go gallivanting around the country running for president in a campaign that has completely no sense of itself and no chance so what do you think distances should have done because he's term limited right he couldn't have run for governor again what would have been like endorse endorse and then he have done in the
Starting point is 01:36:58 interlude for the four years whatever you want but if he wants to stay in office that's that's my thing like i think you have to stay in office well he could have been vp people have to have a title vp yeah he could have been he could have been florida though he could have been then one of them changed the residence it's not that hard uh cheney did it and and trump's in bedminster anyway in new jersey well his he could have changed his right yeah it's gonna have to be trump or or he could be appointed secretary of whatever he could have been attorney general he could have been secretary oh he would have been a good attorney general he was a jag officer he was a jag officer yeah but it's interesting they were just basically able to scare him into if you don't do it now your career is over it made no sense and i i remember talking to
Starting point is 01:37:37 i'll just say dc people dc insiders who they there was that same exact line we has to do it now and you know christy, Christie missed his chance in to run in 2012, where we're coming off of the governorship and you gotta do it. You gotta strike when the iron is hot. And it's like, read the room, man, just read the room. And so that being said, you know, I'm glad that this all happened this way,
Starting point is 01:37:58 because if someone's political instincts are that bad, imagine if he was actually in the oval office. Right, imagine if he's in the oval office and now he's got those people in his ear that are getting that are convincing him how to act and they're saying you gotta do it you gotta you just you just gotta bomb iran you just gotta do it no no no no you gotta bomb iran you gotta strike while the iron's hot they paid hamas off you just gotta go and there were people like lindsey graham who just you know anything happens he's like bomber and
Starting point is 01:38:24 henry kissinger died. Bomberan. We just got a Bomberan because they killed Kissinger. No, no. He's 100 years old, Lindsey. Like, no, just, well, I mean, it's like the second coming. We have to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Second coming of McCain in many ways. And then you get John McCain Heels, who is Nikki Haley, you know, running, which I love that, you know, having Jamie Dimon come out for her at that same event. You know, so it's like Wall Street basically just saying, yes, we fully support the military industrial complex. Let's get let's get it all back together. So the neocons are keep trying to sort of like, come back in. And to some extent, a lot of them lined up behind DeSantis as well. So I think you had a lot of these vested interests that were were shut out of the Trump administration and certainly didn't agree with
Starting point is 01:39:05 Trump on foreign policy, absolutely didn't agree with him when it came to trade, certainly didn't agree with him when it came to immigration. And they saw Ron DeSantis as a sort of vehicle whereby in they could push their own interests and their own agenda by potentially seeing if they could unseat Trump in the primary. And there you know, there was definitely an opening that DeSantis, I think, could have made it, you know, maybe a little bit more competitive. But just the way that he conducted himself, it's it's it's it is going to be studied for years to come as just a complete debacle and of a of a presidential campaign and a total misunderstanding of how politics works in the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption,
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Starting point is 01:40:53 from certain press. They tell him to go all in on other stuff. They're telling him to stay away from TPUSA. They came up with that ridiculous announcement on Twitter, which didn't make any sense because it was the most lackluster possible announcement. You know, there were ways to make that work and be effective and fun and buoyant. And it just wasn't. Well, and let me like, I'm just going to say it. They were lying to people. They were lying to people like crazy saying that he wasn't running.
Starting point is 01:41:19 He said he was and he slipped up the other day. They kept saying it. He slipped up the other day on that Laura Ingraham interview where he said, you know, he slipped up the other day. That's the thing too, they kept saying it. He slipped up the other day on that Laura Ingraham interview where he said, you know, back in 2022, I was the only candidate who said that we should have change at the RNC. And then he catches himself. I mean, I was the only one who became later a candidate who said that.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Is that what he said? Who became later a candidate? Something along those lines. That's ridiculous. So he catches himself before she says something and then he came in to correct it. But it was that classic Freudian slip where he knew that he'd basically just given away the game
Starting point is 01:41:53 to say, yeah, okay, yeah, obviously I was running for president. We're going to go to Super Chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with your friends, and head over to timcast.com. Click join us to support our work. If you like the show, you think think we do a good job we rely on viewers like you to run the company
Starting point is 01:42:09 and expand and do everything we're doing but we're gonna have that members only uncensored show coming up at 10 and i have a special announcement at 10 for you in light of recent events so i i strongly encourage you all to be there and be ready for the beginning of the uncensored members only show for that special announcement. Special announcement, we'll call it that. All right. Kilted Carnivore says not first again, despite the fact you are first, sir. You see, he's hedging his bet.
Starting point is 01:42:36 He doesn't know if he's going to be first. So he says he's not. Then when he is, it's, oh, look, you know, there I was actually first. He needs to have some more confidence. He can't be like DeSantis over here. You got to be a little more confident like like they they ridley scott has this whole you know movie about how men shouldn't be ambitious and it's it's called napoleon but it's not about the actual napoleon it's about a guy who thinks he's napoleon and so he just and he's just constantly getting cucked by his wife and that it leads him to do you know more
Starting point is 01:43:02 poorer and poorer decisions whereas Whereas the real Napoleon was someone who was increasingly confident and was willing to be that man of destiny as Hegel described him. We got AlphaTurk who says, Disney should be awarded a defense contract after producing more bombs than Lockheed Martin.
Starting point is 01:43:19 That's a good one. That's amusing. Need drums in here so she can do the rim shot. We have a cajon. We do actually have drums here. That's a good one. It's amusing. Amusing. Need drums in here so she can do the rim shot. We have a cajon. We do actually have drums here. That's true. Search, get a rim shot.
Starting point is 01:43:29 We'll have drums here for this Friday. They want to do full band. They do. Wow. Okay. That's going to be great. Are you producing on Friday?
Starting point is 01:43:35 I guess we're doing a... I hope we can do the audio. I think I should work out. The Defiant is going to be here. Yep. So super excited. Yeah, it's Dickie Barrett and Pete Parada.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Oh my gosh. Yeah. All right. I'm going to fly back from japan just for that and then go back and then go back yeah we're we're having uh we're having on the show pete parada of course he's done drums for our music he's super cool super cool dude dickie barrett everybody knows come on he's mighty mighty boston's so are you guys like doing show and then the last hours and then uh at 10 they're gonna they're gonna play some music and and we have this massive band set up. It's going to be awesome. So I guess we're going to have a full drum set. Is it,
Starting point is 01:44:10 is it members only? No, no, no, no. Live on YouTube, live on YouTube at 10. Yep.
Starting point is 01:44:15 And then what we're, what we're going to do is when we book more and more musical guests for the, for the end of the show on Friday night, we're going to put those clips on the Trash House Records YouTube to have this library of music. And we'll probably do other special events. Super excited. I keep telling Phil we want All That Remains and he's like, yeah, we'll get it. And I'm like, come on
Starting point is 01:44:34 man, we want All That Remains. Can they do acoustic stuff? It has to be an acoustic set. It's like a Tiny Desk concert that MTR does, right? They can do Unplugged. I mean, I guess The Defiant's going to go full band. We definitely have the means to do it. We just need more space. Yeah, it's just the new studio is bigger,
Starting point is 01:44:49 and so it'll be a lot easier. There's enough space there. Yeah, there's enough for sure. I would pan the cameras, guys, but they're off right now. We're just going to have to move the cameras because the original setup was like two seats, acoustic set, and they were like, we could do full band, and I'm like, all right, let's roll.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Carter's been overtime on it, but we'll get it done i was gonna say are you producing or is carter uh carter will be here for the after show we haven't really decided yet we'll figure that out tomorrow yeah yeah capturing all of that live sound it's not gonna be easy it's a lot yeah but i i i think we i think we've got it easily it's just uh, you know, Carter is really great at getting that music, so I think we'll be good. Let's grab some more. Andrew Lignal says, YouTube won't let me write any variation of F after the word go.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Super lame. I just wanted to cheer on Elon. Well, we got in the title, I guess. I wonder if it negatively impacted the show. And if you wagered, Texas with the dollar sign. Yeah. We'll grab some more super chats. Bricktop says, Jack, why do you always look so sad in photos?
Starting point is 01:45:52 He's a sad guy. This is what not sad looks like. Do that again. That is very on Jack expression. All right. T-Rex Pet Shop says, you know, we're winning when the news lies about a Kansas Chiefs fan calling a kid
Starting point is 01:46:10 racist, but he ends up being Native American must be embarrassing. They can't find racism. They have to lie about it. You know, that story is so wild. This gets better and better every day. Native American kid wears a headdress.
Starting point is 01:46:21 His grandfather is like a chieftain. Yes. Like a tribal council leader. Isn't his dad like on the chief's board or something? He's an actual Kansas City chief. Yeah, correct. And they were like, he's racist for wearing half black, half red. And then they showed the video of him doing the tomahawk
Starting point is 01:46:39 with like a bunch of black guys. The black team members are doing the chop with the kid. And the kid's Native American. Yeah, the chop with him. And the kid's Native American and his grandfather is on a tribal government council. He's like, he's a chief. Yeah. Which I was going to say, all the naming of American sports teams
Starting point is 01:46:56 after Native American warriors, if Indian warriors, you know, it was supposed to be a mark of honor as in these are incredible warriors they're aspirational warriors it's aspirated you wouldn't you wouldn't want to name yourself after like a loser or someone who's like it's a mark it's always meant as a badge of honor what's what's the thing they do in new zealand oh the haka haka yeah they gotta stop that's racist yeah that thing is so cool when they do that i love when they it's not just new zealand because white people
Starting point is 01:47:24 are doing it no i just think it's cool when they i mean new I love when they... It's not just New Zealand. Oh, because white people are doing it? No, I just think it's cool when they... I mean, New Zealanders are white. Libby was doing her haka the other day. We had to ask her to stop politely. We asked her politely but firmly to stop the haka. I was reading about Maori fighters that was playing Civilization, and they were crazy.
Starting point is 01:47:40 European colonists struggled against them more than any other indigenous population that's why there's a lot of maori that's right and and that's why i i don't know the history but something like often the europeans conquered and i think with the maori it was like a ceasefire yeah yeah the british were trying to take over in new zealand they just couldn't really yeah the maori warriors were just like the other thing too with the removal of Indian names and Indian symbols in America with all of that removal. They didn't do that in New Zealand.
Starting point is 01:48:10 No. We're doing it here though. We are trying. And what's happening is that is basically going to spell the erasure of Indian culture from mainstream culture because we're not seeing a whole bunch of indigenous Native American culture coming up. We're just destroying what has been there representing them they took away aunt jemima yeah i hate that
Starting point is 01:48:30 remember they used to have the um remember used to like on on the side i remember big rigs you know on just on the highway they used to always have like an indian chief on the door or on the hood or something and the cigar store yeah it was just it was just a symbol that you would see around. It was never meant as like mocking. It was just Americana. Yeah. But we destroyed it because we're progressive
Starting point is 01:48:52 and we're good at understanding people. But we're not going to fix the reservation system. And apparently it's less racist to erase Indian culture from American culture than it is to honor it and see it. Look at Lando Lakes.
Starting point is 01:49:04 They got rid of the Native American, but they kept the land. And the crazy thing about that is it was a Native American guy who drew that picture. Meanwhile, Cousin Tease is now here to solve this problem. He wasn't self-hating.
Starting point is 01:49:15 He drew it as a point of pride. He loved it. He was so proud of his drawing. But he was brainwashed a little bit. You don't understand because you were brainwashed too. Oh my goodness. Classic post-millennial. Totally ridiculous. Look, we need to figure out how to get this anti-time
Starting point is 01:49:28 square speeding up i've got too many spinning plates and so with what we're doing with the coffee shop i'm like we want to have this strip in martinsburg be all of these parallel economy businesses we got to figure out how to ramp that up and i don't yeah because i want to come hang out yeah yeah i'm like we should have an angel studios movie theater you know it's like how do we wrangle all these cats and say guys like let's prioritize this all the all the marketing runoff is pure gold for everybody like your businesses will succeed next to another business you know i was telling jeremy love michael knoll's a cigar shop what is it i think you'd have to work you know what the michael knoll's there because there is a cigar shop in martinsburg it's been around forever i think well then we
Starting point is 01:50:04 wouldn't like get product there. You know what I mean? Right, because the one rule is you can't disrupt the generational businesses. The generational businesses have to be reinforced. So the people who are like third or fourth generation in Martinsburg should be succeeding and expanding. That's the goal. But it'd be cool if the one that's there is the only place in town you can buy Michael's cigars. It might drive traffic there. Exactly. There are ways to partner with it, I think. That's right. Yeah one that's there is the only place in town you can buy Michael's cigars. Right. Drive traffic there.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Exactly. There are ways to partner with it, I think. That's right. Yeah, that's a great idea. All right. Shard Falcors Gaming says, cast brew instant cross lens coffee crystals. We're working on Graphene Dream. That's Ian's signature blend.
Starting point is 01:50:39 I miss Ian. I miss him when I'm not here. He just ditched us. I miss his musk. Became a cloud of graphene and drifted away. I miss his aura. His aura's still a little bit here. It's a little bit here.
Starting point is 01:50:51 We have a lot of little Ian toys over here. Little glass mushrooms. Little glass mushrooms. The graphene is still here. We've got little rocks. There's graphene. Infused with Ian. He just keeps getting more and more rocks.
Starting point is 01:51:00 I mean, I gotta be honest. I bought him a lot of these rocks. What were you thinking? He likes rocks. And so it's like- Here's the graphene. It would be good gotta be honest, I bought him a lot of these rocks. What were you thinking? He likes rocks. It would be good for the growing boy to give him. We go out and they're like, dude, a lot of stores sell rocks. I'm not kidding. For whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:51:14 My son used to collect rocks. I don't know what happened to that collection. Especially in this area. You go to a gas station, they'll have bags of rocks. A gift. That and soap, right? Right. They like rocks out here. The rocks are good. I mean, that's what built this entire community. Let's read this one.
Starting point is 01:51:30 DMZ Pro says, Hey, Tim, are these late night shows like Kimmel really getting millions of views on their YouTube videos in a day or could the numbers be sus? That's default. That's normies. And so the way it works is when you go to YouTube, like open a private tab and open up YouTube and then guess what you're going to see. Congratulations. That's default. That's normies. And so the way it works is when you go to YouTube, like,
Starting point is 01:51:47 like open a private tab and open up YouTube and then guess what you're going to see. Congratulations. So I wouldn't say that people are enjoying the content, but people are certainly being force fed. It's like, it's front loaded. Yeah. And it's such BS because if you like,
Starting point is 01:51:59 this is proof of, in my opinion, narrative collusion with big tech. I mean, there's a, there's a bunch of hard reasons, but come on. You have with Patrick Bet-David, with Steven Crowder, with Timcast IRL, insert any other organically grown podcast or show.
Starting point is 01:52:17 And the math is simple. If someone made a show from the ground up on their own without external support, it must be good. If you are dumping millions into maintaining this show that is losing ratings, it must be bad. So why then does YouTube put them on the front page? Well, and again, because if you remember that during the writer's strike, all of them went off air and nobody noticed for a while. And then at one point, they tried to launch like a joint. I forget what it was called.
Starting point is 01:52:43 You remember what it was called? Strike Force 5. Strike Force. Stephen Colbert. Ridiculous. I forget what it was called. You remember what it was called? Strike Force 5. Strike Force. Stephen Colbert. Ridiculous name. Yeah, it was all of these. Where they all came together just like this. And it was awful.
Starting point is 01:52:52 And nobody watched it. Yep. And they were saying how any revenue would go to the writers who weren't getting paid because they were on strike. So I actually. So you felt guilty and watched it out of sympathy. I did not watch it at all. Not you, but. Maybe others did. strike so i i actually felt guilty and watched it a sympathy i did not watch it not you but
Starting point is 01:53:05 maybe others did i'm gonna say i think the views may be fake in some capacity or they're just like those websites where it says 25 photos of celebrities and you've never seen and then when you load it there's 800 ads and then whenever you want to see the next photo you gotta click next that's probably what they're the kind of views they're getting i get um all my news from the post millennial but after that I get all my news from those those click pages. I'm the guy who clicks on all of them. I click on those too. I just sit and click those all day long.
Starting point is 01:53:31 But here's the point I want to make. When they can't drive any kind of real influence, then they don't matter at all. Even if someone did watch, they're not having any impact on the individuals. Shows like this are. Patrick, Bad David, Crowder, obviously. These are shows that are actually influencing people. they're not having any impact on the individuals shows like this are patrick bett david crowder obviously these are shows that are actually influencing people and uh you know we talked to um i think matt gates brought this up he's like man it's so different you go on fox news and no one ever brings it up you go on timcast and everyone's like oh i saw you on timcast
Starting point is 01:53:58 like because these shows are real people watching it's also and you know this is a difference between um active engaged viewership versus cable news which is passive so cable news is a passive viewership because it's on but it's on the background so you know my parents aren't like this but if you were if you were over your your parents house for thanksgiving or your grandparents you notice they just kind of always have a tv on that's just in the house you know and it's on and it's there and it's filling the background yeah it's like white noise and then you can kind of tell you know what side of political aisle they're on depending on what they're watching so if it's fox or if it's cnn or it's mbc msnbc like you know you're you're really in for it if it's there and so that doesn't mean though that they're sitting down and actively
Starting point is 01:54:43 engaging in what they're listening to. And so, yeah, they might be on in whatever Nielsen X number of households, but that doesn't mean that to Gates's point, okay, you're on in the household, but those households aren't necessarily paying attention. Whereas a show like this, a show like Human Events, a show like War Room, you've got to search that out. Exactly. And so you're going to be actively listening to it this of course by the way comes up a ton in uh podcast advertising where they say okay it may not be as many viewers or listeners as cable news but they're more engaged which means your conversion rate's going to be higher yep so that's that's another big component is uh
Starting point is 01:55:19 when people went and we see this with our own sales with casper it's the sales are way higher doing direct shout outs as opposed to buying ads. That's right. Let's read this one. We got Ryan Kirchmeyer says, PBD had Chris Cuomo on. He sounded a lot like you. What happened and would you have him on? Did Patrick bet David asked him about staging that fake COVID thing?
Starting point is 01:55:38 When he climbed out of his basement and said, I just came out of my basement. Like right after he'd been at a party in the Hamptons. No, he was at his house. He was at his property. Right. But he had been at a party in the Hamptons? No, he was at his house. He was at his property. Right, but he had been at a party. He was at a party before that? Yeah, like. I knew that he was at, he was visiting his.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Wasn't at a party? Well, he was seen out. He was seen out. He was seen on his property, which was under construction. So I'd love to have him on. And the first question is. And he claimed he was quarantined the whole time. Why did you fake being in quarantine during COVID?
Starting point is 01:56:02 Were you told, like, first question. Then whatever he says, I'd direct an answer. And then I'd say, were you directed to do this by your superiors at CNN? Maybe the guy would be like, yeah, we faked it. They told me to. I'd be like, wow. So if he wants to come on the show,
Starting point is 01:56:16 I'd love to have him on and be fantastic. And that's the first question I have. I think he generally said something more along the lines of like, hey, there were a lot of things I did that I'm not proud of. He did answer it. He made some like, no, he didn't ask the question directly, but there was like a general sense. Did PBD ask, why did you fake being under quarantine?
Starting point is 01:56:33 I didn't see that. Yeah, I feel like we need more specific questions for this guy. Otherwise he's going to give a lot of skating on the edge. Like I get that he wants to, right. So I get that he wants to be like, oh, I'm just a fair guy now. I'm not in the tank.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Okay, that's fine. But you need to actually come clean about all the things that you did. But if he doesn't come clean, he gets enough sympathy and potentially he could go back in. Because that's ultimately what he really wants. But he has a show now, right? That's 100% right. Does he have a show? He has a show on some channel.
Starting point is 01:57:02 On News Nation. No, but her point is that if he doesn't attack cnn and they get new leadership yeah he could get he can come back nation is not the same thing he wants to go back yeah well let's let's read this we got to stronger than stone says i respect you tim but i really wish you would lay off the ufo stuff it's fine if you don't believe it but please don't insult your fans that do if you took any of that as an insult to people who believe in ufos literally not what you have internalized that and you are are are it's something inside you man because uh i when did when did i when did i say the ufos weren't real i was saying that you said they were exploiting people yeah they release ufo information a real or fake no i think i i said
Starting point is 01:57:41 it's real like a guy will see a ufo and then they'll have a document but it doesn't matter to them right and then when the hunter biden stuff comes out they'll release it so yeah i believe these guys are seeing strange phenomena i wonder what they are my thing is that the biden administration rather than being like we're gonna give this to you in honesty and transparency this stuff that's going on that you guys have been raising questions about they're using it to cover up their own schemes and And that's sort of cheapening the experience. Remember the Titanic submarine? Yeah, that was a total cover-up.
Starting point is 01:58:07 They did the Titanic submarine right when the Hunter Biden report was coming out. And they lied and said, remember the pinging? Oh, we hear pinging. Oh, you know, that's going on. They knew from the start that they had gone. They knew on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:58:19 And they did, yes. They knew. And they lied to the family. They lied to the entire country. Everybody was talking about. I mean, I think I may have been on Timcast during that. That, I mean, it was a huge deal. And we were trying to figure out what was going on,
Starting point is 01:58:31 where they trapped. They knew the whole time. Remember they were like, at this point they would have run out of oxygen. There was like a day. The Coast Guard was giving us updates. Yeah, the media had like a countdown of the oxygen and the Biden administration knew all along.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Because they had heard an explosion. And then James Cameron. Yeah. James Cameron came out and started yelling at them. He said, this is a cover-up operation. Well, because they had heard an explosion on Sunday and they reported to the Coast Guard. It was like the Navy had heard an explosion. They told the Coast Guard that they'd heard an explosion.
Starting point is 01:58:57 I remember saying that because I said, look, given where it is in the water, we would have heard that if this thing exploded. So me, you know, I wasn't willing to go there yet to say that the Coast Guard and the Navy would be in on it. Right. Even I even I couldn't believe that our military and our Coast Guard had been so far gone that they would just lie to us about something like that. But they did. They did. They did right in front of all of us.
Starting point is 01:59:23 All right. like that but they did they did they did right in front of all of us all right logic says we need to start emailing advertisers who work with woke companies and ask them how they feel about working with marxist terrorists incorrect that won't do anything that you are in the bottom tier what you uh what would be effective and i'm not advocating necessarily right now would be if you emailed companies and asked them why they were advertising on Disney, Disney is fascist and supports the murder of Muslims. And then Disney is going to, you know, a big brand is going to be like, we don't want to be associated with Islamophobia. Well, Disney thanked the security forces that are I mean, the things they're doing to the Uyghur Muslims are nightmarish. It's like I'm at a loss for word i mean uh forced abortions rape and murder i mean
Starting point is 02:00:11 these things are nightmarish and uh disney thanks it's it's it's actually it's demographic replacement is what they're trying to do oh yeah this is and this is trying to state it goes to be stated goal in xinjiang which by the way they they were doing this to an extent and are doing this to extend in tibet as well which the left used to understand. Well, they call it sinization. Right. Yeah. They're sending as many Han Chinese there. They're making incentives, financial incentives for... So I've been to Xinjiang, I've been to Tibet, that you are financially incentivized to go in there. And even when I was there over a decade ago, you could tell that there were these incentivized to go in there. And even when I was there over a decade ago,
Starting point is 02:00:46 you could tell that there were these huge areas of the city that were all for Han Chinese. And it was all in Mandarin Chinese. You wouldn't see any Arabic anywhere. You wouldn't see any of the Uyghur language. And then you would go to other areas and it's like they became ghettos, ghettoized in their own cities.
Starting point is 02:01:04 And that was over a decade ago yeah all right what do we got here mary everett says so is my rumble stock finally going to stop falling i went big two years ago and lost half so far um i have a i have a decent amount of rumble stock not i say decent amount i don't think it's that much it's not like i got like millions of shares or anything i I have a very small amount. But when you buy stock in a new company that goes public, yeah, it goes down. That's literally why they go public. They're raising money.
Starting point is 02:01:36 So if you believe in the company, buy the stock. If you're trying to buy stock to gamble, I don't know, man. That sounds risky. I don't give anybody any financial advice. But it sounds to me like a bad idea to be like, I'm going to buy a bunch of stock and then hope i make a bunch of money off it i mean maybe you'll get a few percentage gain i'm actually really confident the growth of rumble that's why i bought stock i'm like man in five ten years this company is going to be massive these shares are gonna be worth a lot of money other than that do you just sit around and wait i guess i don't know do whatever you want do what your financial advisor tells you to do who is it like there's everyone all those athletes who did endorsements for like binance and
Starting point is 02:02:10 oh yeah right and they all got sued and stuff because they were telling people to do it yeah that's why i'm always like no financial advice yeah that's like the one no medical no financial advice that's a great story about that because everyone gave their endorsement like everybody yeah they were paying fat stacks. Paying fat stacks. All right. Let's see. Where are we at?
Starting point is 02:02:29 Where are we at? Paul Tascalo says Theory Hunter testifies mid-December, puts on a show. That morning, Joe Biden issues a pardon for himself and Hunter, resigns the presidency. Kamala takes over. Dems get their first black female president, freeing Newsom to run in 2024. Yeah. I mean, all of the permutations of that aren't going to work because joe and jill refuse to leave they're all trying
Starting point is 02:02:50 to get them to leave and they just completely refuse yeah they won't give it up yep yep where are we at loyal snoop doge says less censorship and less advertising elon is making twitter great again well if uh if everybody does sign up for that you know for for twitter pro or whatever they what is it called under the blue check blue twitter blue yeah there you go then uh pay for a product that you like and the company runs itself and then i i love the idea that even if you don't want to pay you can still use it and still read information and still post and do whatever you want. I think Elon's got some pretty great ideas. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 02:03:29 It's going to be a challenge, but I hope he wins. He's completely right about the advertisers. Tell him to screw off. In fact, he said everyone's going to know the companies that did this. Well, replace the ads that they were supposed to buy with a message saying this company has pulled off ads boycotting the political opinions of people on this platform you know that'd be tight you can get real hard with it actually i think the reason why media matters went after elon i think this is actually fairly obvious elon announced that from the river to the sea would be banned that decolonized would
Starting point is 02:04:03 be banned and then immediately Matters goes after him. And if you look at the tweets from Media Matters employees, they are anti-Israel. Yeah, they sure are. They went right after Elon because Elon was critical of Hamas. And end of the leftist protests. Well, you saw there were even members of SPLC's union that signed on to straight up pro-Humas statements. So that's why they're going after Elon. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:30 And these are the people that lead to advertising boycotts. Exactly. And these are the people who then, you know, a bunch of Democratic congressmen like Adam Schiff and Dan Goldman signed on to a letter to Twitter and to Elon Musk and Lindy Iaccarino talking about how concerned they were about hate speech on the platform and what else. And they were citing media matters. That's where they, it's like a pipeline.
Starting point is 02:04:55 Media matters gets treated like it's a reliable source and it's not. It's just- Last super chat. Waffle Sensei says, would you kindly spin the UFO? Yes. I feel like we haven't done this in a while.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Spin commenced. It's going. That's just what's happening. Imagine saying Tim Pool is anti-UFO when he's got one right next to him. Yeah, it's pretty cool too. All right, that's going pretty well. All right, everybody, if you haven't already,
Starting point is 02:05:21 would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show if you really do like it um and and any of the shows if you watch pop culture crisis sharing is it podcasts grow because of word of mouth and if people like it they keep watching but also go to timcast.com click join us the members only uncensored show will be starting in just a few minutes and i've got a i've got a special announcement i don't know if announcement's the right word. I have a statement to make that I would like
Starting point is 02:05:47 you to hear. A proclamation? Something you want to get off your chest. Something to be said. Almost like a confession. Something to be said. Oh, it's bouncing now. Look at that. Yeah, the math is actually really cool. But anyway, you can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally at TimCast. Jack, would you like to shout anything out?
Starting point is 02:06:03 Yeah, humanevents.com. Everybody needs to go there. This is your best op-ed foreign policy site that you can find. Except, of course, for Hannah Clare, who needs to finish her Christmas order over at mypillow.com. A lot of pressure in this room tonight to order pillows. I haven't seen the deals.
Starting point is 02:06:20 You want me to be online shopping during our conversation? That sounds rude. What do you think I'm doing over here? Oh, man. So he admits he's rude. I'm sorry. Can people find you on the internet at any social media sites or handles? No, I share it completely. I live the life of a hermit.
Starting point is 02:06:33 The people know. The people know. In the nude. Well, I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for this cool new site called scnr.com, otherwise known as scanner.com. I'm there with a ton of the people from, or all the people from the TimCast News team, and I'm grateful to be a part of it. They're working really hard on some cool stuff.
Starting point is 02:06:49 If you want to follow me personally, you can follow me on Instagram at hannaclair.b. On Twitter at hcbrimlow. You should follow at TimCast News on all the social media platforms still. You can see Scanner's work there. And of course, Libby's with us again. Thanks, Hannah.
Starting point is 02:07:03 I'm Libby Emmons. Do you want me a Hannah Hannah that's a hate crime oh my goodness you're fired do you know I know a lot of Hannah's and so am I the only Hannah Claire you know and you just forgot Hannah Claire that I know Libby's fired tweet at Libby about how she doesn't know my name oh my goodness that is so narcissistic of you to like to want my name to be pronounced correctly your name I'm sorry that my name means something to me it means nothing to you libby's destroying my identity one second at a time okay all right enough with the transphobic comments just come up with a nickname right i'm gonna work on that next
Starting point is 02:07:34 yeah i'll ask you to do it anyway i'm libby emmons you can find me at libby emmons on twitter and you can check out all the great work we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com and you can subscribe at postmillennial.com slash subscribe. And I am surge.com. It's good to have you back, Jack. And it's promo code POSO, I think. Boom! Yeah. Powerful promo code POSO.
Starting point is 02:07:58 There are no other promo codes. Jack probably sells like 10,000 pillows every time he comes on this show. You know, it's actually funny because when we look at the numbers, so Lindell was on the other day and he was like, he was like, it was like, oh yeah, promo code Tanya, that's your wife, right? I was like, yeah, he's like, he's like, cause you know, I see those numbers come in and she's actually like, Mike, you don't need to, you don't need to get to. And then Kyle Rittenhouse,
Starting point is 02:08:19 cause he's got his book, which by the way, so we've got the promo codes. We do not get a cut from Kyle Rittenhouse. We're not doing that. I didn't feel it'd be right, but he added on promo code Tanya as well. And he was like, yeah, she's actually got more than you. So.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Wow. Wow. Tanya is a delightful person. We're going to go to the members only uncensored show. So thanks for hanging out everybody. And we'll see you over at timCast.com in a couple minutes.

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