Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #916 Biden Prepares To DROP OUT, President Hints HE DOESNT Want To Run w/Terry Schilling

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

Tim, Ian, Phil Labonte, & Serge join Terry Schilling to discuss Joe Biden saying he is only running for president because Trump is running for president, the GOP releasing documents proving payments from Hunter Biden to Joe Biden, Gen Z trending to become the most conservative generation in decades, and the Pentagon reporting dozens of US troops expressing they wanted to overthrow the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It would seem that they are laying the basic groundwork for removing Joe Biden, and they're going to bring someone else in. Now, there have been many hints, each little grain of sand being added to the heap. We had a report from Axios over a month ago about how Democrats were lining up alternates, but now we have Joe Biden himself saying, if it weren't for Donald Trump, he wouldn't even be running again, which is an interesting suggestion, considering that Donald

Trump is facing prison and facing other means by which they're going to try to stop him from running. I believe this story right here, which is a Joe Biden on a fundraising campaign trail, suggesting he doesn't even want to run. It's only because of Trump, which opens the door down the line for a clean exit. Now, we don't know exactly how it's going to happen, but nobody really thinks that Joe Biden is going to run. Some people do, to be fair, but realistically, how's it going to play out? So we'll dive into that. Plus, we've got some really great topics to jump through. We'll talk about what happened with that house that exploded. It's not the biggest story in the world. It appears that this guy maybe was just crazy and his house exploded. So we'll get into get into that plus we have a weird story

from military.com about dozens of military men and women who are military men perhaps who want to overthrow the government oh boy this one's going to be fun and then of course we have a segment on gen z may be the most conservative generation ever which we'll have to explain what that means but i actually think it might be true. So before we get started, my friends, head over to castbrew.com to pick up the best cup of coffee you've ever had. I got to be honest, man. I've been going around and going to these coffee shops. I order coffee. None of it's good.

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We've got an epic exchange between Riley Gaines and a Democrat. Oh, that was pretty brutal. Phil's back. Hello, everybody. I am back from L.A. My name is Phil LaVonti, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. We're here with Ian. What's up, dudes?

Hello. Hi. Good to see you back phil oh look at that wow the energy knocked the uh the ufo off its off its uh throne what's up everybody in the audience i want special thanks to you if you're listening you are listening especially if you've been here before because your attention is the greatest form of currency in this economy and it really does mean a lot it means a lot that you keep coming back and keep enjoying the show now some might argue that money is the is the most important currency to keep this thing

flowing but i think your attention's up there arguably more important let's just keep it moving uh yeah good to have you back phil how much is gas costing nowadays uh i don't know i rented a tesla when i was in la oh nice so uh it's part of the reason why i've been talking about tesla so much past i see that i've rented tesla and i talking about Teslas so much past you. I see that. I've rented Teslas and I'm so jealous of Tim's. I see. What are the, oh, the Model S? Well, I rented a Model 3.

And so I fell in love with them. I want to get one real bad. I think they're great. I've been to yours once. There's a story right now. People are watching Home Alone. And there's that scene where Kevin McAllister goes to the grocery store and he buys a ton of stuff.

And she's like, $19 or whatever. No, $19. It's $19. Yeah. And then in like 2010, it was $40 and now it's $80. But yeah, let's jump into this first story. We got this one from the Boston Herald. Ladies and gentlemen, Biden says he wouldn't be seeking reelection if Trump wasn't running, which is the weirdest headline,

because if it's anyone other than Joe Biden, Trump loses, according to numerous polls. So let me break this down. Biden claims he's at. Here's a quote. If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running, but we can't let him win. Biden said at a fundraiser at a private event near near Boston, according to a poll report, Biden just celebrated his 81st birthday. He went on to warn that Trump has made clear what his plans would be if he wins. Trump's not even hiding the ball anymore. He's telling us what he's going to do.

He's making no bones about it. Biden cited Trump's comments. He's out for retribution if he wins. Biden is just really trying to get me to vote for Donald Trump here. But let's slow this down. Biden claiming that he wouldn't be seeking re-election if Trump wasn't running.

That's the headline. That's the story. If Biden didn't run, there's a poll from NBC showing that any other Democratic candidate is 46 to Trump's 40%. But with Biden,

it's like Trump 43 to like Biden 39, which is to say Joe Biden just admitted he's a Trump supporter and he wants Trump to win and that's his true intention. I'm loving this bit. This is hilarious. So Biden wants retribution

too. Yeah. And he's like, you know, come on, man, you know, if Trump's going to win, I got to be here. If I leave, he'll lose. I guess. I love it. I just think it's so lame, right? Like you want a president that has a vision for what he wants to accomplish in the in the country right and and he's saying he's just running to stop trump like you you need an

altruistic president with a vision i mean we obviously know he doesn't have that that's not a surprise to us but it's lame that he's actually admitting it i fully agree we want somebody with a vision that's like one of my number one on my bucket list of to do for a president is give me something to live for what's the next 20 years gonna look like bro i want i want a president that has a vision about like not doing stuff all these presidents that like do things like i i want a president that wants to do less we have the the largest government in human history well to clarify my argument if he's like i'm going to shut down this organization and this organization a plan okay okay i'd be open to that but i want some long term like how do you are my kids gonna be okay in 20 years and why you're you want the most powerful

job on earth you better give me a reason i think one of the things that's actually helping democrats is they don't need to campaign on kids because liberals don't have kids so it's it's really simple they they they target the you know those viral videos about dinks i was just gonna say do you think this is really annoying the dink stuff is is oh dude this is why biden has kids what does dink double income no kids and so uh biden is basically i'm gonna forgive your student loan debt why so you can go party come on baby i just got an email was i telling you guys about that i was telling luke about it while i was down there on we are change show best political show.com that i got an email like last week hey by the way we you have no more debt i just saw all of my student debt i thought it was like 8 000 of the 19 000 was gone it was all of it it's all gone and then it went 180 000 more people got that same email so wait how much how much did they forgive uh for me total 19 i paid off 6800 income i don't know irs might it didn't yeah that's what people

like hey that might be considered income i'm like well i didn't get it it just disappeared i didn't so i gotta i'll find out next year if that's an income i think they forced repayment early when when when oprah winfrey gave everybody those cars they're like no that's income and and and there was a uh now that's a little different you're giving a car you're giving value but there was also uh occupy did this thing where they were paying off medical debt so what you what they would do is they would contact the uh the hospitals and say this person has been delinquent how long okay we'll pay off their debt for 10 and so someone would owe 10 grand and then they would pay a1,000 and wipe their debt

or even less pennies. But people were then pointing out, hey, they have to report that as income because you paid their debt off. What's so dirty about this is if they took, I'd like to say $10,000 left to pay off. That's my,

and if they forced me to pay that back early and then they're going to tax me on that forced repayment, that's like pure, I mean, that's my debt. You can't pay my debt back without my consent that's insane especially if you tax my friends to pay for it right that would be the most epic move by democrats is to like forgive ever all the debt but then tax everyone

on the forgive debt so now they all have to pay more money and they have debt to the government on their accelerated yeah on unsolicited accelerated repayments like but so it's like someone's got a loan with a private you know or they're all federal loans i guess that are being forgiven so yeah even if it's if it's not this is it's still insane that if they've taxed my friends to pay for it that's like insidious there's there is no there's nothing that we've discussed that is beyond what the government has already done in like historically done the government like like japanese internment camps are infinitely worse than them taking people's money for taxes yeah or or i mean whether that's the the extreme that the the u.s government has

done is stuff like jim crow or or internment camps um when it comes to actually like you know monetary policy and your property and stuff, the government demanded that everyone turn in any gold they had, any gold they owned at all. Here's the funny thing. You're no longer allowed to own it. So that kind of stuff, government does those kind of, makes those kind of decrees and stuff all the time. So we're going to uh this student loan repayment is instant inflation yeah instant because money that wouldn't would not have been in circulation

is now instantly in circulation and the argument is it'll stimulate the economy sure and now it's going to immediately result in in rapid inflation as more people are spending more money very very rapidly it's uh it's it's it's such a dirty move such a dirty move. And one of the dirtiest things about it, I do think we're facing a self-correcting problem. You know, you got these viral videos where it's like a man and a woman and they'll film each other. I'm a dink.

I can go and do this because I don't have kids. And yeah, I'm a dink. I can do this. And these people are excising themselves in the gene pool. These ideas will cease to exist. Democrats are utilizing that short-term opportunity to win political power and then try and maintain a system

which slowly just shuffles people off into an ideology that results in them excising them from the gene pool. I wish it excised the ideas, but since they're making internet video, those stupid ideas stay around for people. Like long after those two dinks are gone, that someone's

gonna see that video and be like they must have had a great life i should be a dink too i disagree you don't think i believe you're half correct the video will persist people can see it it may influence some people but the reality is people who are like imagine a video popped up and there was a guy being like i took a dump on my floor that means i don't gotta hire a plumber you'd watch that you'd be like that's the stupidest thing I ever heard. I would never do that. That's right. That's what might happen with these videos.

If the liberals aren't having kids and they're aborting their kids and the rate at which they reproduce is dramatically lower, blue states allow abortions and red states don't. Let's just make it very, very simple for everybody. The one reason conservatives should be celebrating

the overturning of Roe v. Wade is not that it's made abortion illegal in some places it's that it's given them a guaranteed path to a long path towards a long-term victory because blue states populations will decline they already are there's already an exodus and they're already not having kids and now they have an opportunity to abort up to the point of birth if you were to ask me i would say that democrat politicians hate democrat voters more than anyone else i got kind of this mixed feeling i was thinking earlier about this about people that are changing their gender or getting surgeries on their genitals so that they can't have kids anymore or they're just opting out like in a way it's like you might think okay that's that's fine and good because that means they'll weed away and it's like you might think, okay, that's fine and good

because that means they'll weed away. And it's like maybe if those people are mentally ill or if they just have some sort of illness, then we need less mental illness in the system. Maybe that's okay. But the reality is I want less. I agree, less ill people is good, but that doesn't mean,

I don't want them to be sick in the first place. I want to find out what's making these people this way and solve that and fix it. It's that they don't have any family. It's that they don't have any family it's that they don't have any kids right like i look i know that's not making them sick no no but it's making them immature it's yeah it's making them liberal so like hey here's how i view it look i know i'm a freak i got six kids with our seventh on the way we like our kids we like our family it's it there's something mysterious about it though in that it forces you to grow up it forces you to sacrifice like when you've got screaming kids the next morning you're

a lot less likely to get trashed the night before you got it you got to make a video with your wife where you're like i'm a parent my kid mows the lawn for me i'm a parent no i don't gotta do the dishes anymore put them to work now right like saturday morning so here's our system right it's called dadder days dadder days we get up at seven, whatever time. They get up six, three, seven o'clock sometimes, but they got to clean the house, clean the living room, clean the dining room, put everything away. And they do that. They get donuts, get to go to the movies, get to go to Dave and Buster's, something fun that day. It's dadder day. It's the day that they get to spend with their dad. It works out really well because we get a clean home.

The lawn gets done. You're not crazy, Tim. That's how it works with big families because we get a clean home the lawn gets done you're you're you're not crazy tim that's how it works with big families that's how that's why the families used to be bigger was because you'd want to have more workers for your for your farm or whatever business it was and because they were like kids died a lot at very very young ages babies and miscarriage and stuff so they're constantly having kids and then they're having a lot of them and then a kid might die at four years old so it's just like if you don't have kids you got to keep doing it yeah but look man democrats continually uh offer up policies that destroy democrat positions look at their policing policies they want to abolish police in like the worst criminal areas ever like they're they're i'm just gonna bring it back to without getting into an

abortion debate just the idea that someone would look at you and be like i think you should abort your kid i like it's insulting i want to make sure like if someone came to you and said you know i want to make sure that if at any point even the point of birth your wife wants to determine the pregnancy i'm gonna make sure she can you're gonna be like what are you saying but but but go back to the dink videos right like the dink videos like if if my wife was telling me that she didn't want to have any more kids anymore with us or with me i would be really insulted like you don't love me enough to keep having kids look granted we're reaching the the older age and the maximum limit of kids we're gonna be able to have but like if we first got married and my wife was unwilling to have kids with me,

it would hurt really bad. And then, and I think the same thing on her end, I think it would be insulting. So it's, it's, it's more than abortion, but I think that's a really good point.

Like it is so offensive to tell someone that they should abort their children. Or that there should be like, it's, it's, I don't think Democrats are coming on being like, abort your kids, but they're like,

you know, I want to make sure that there is no restriction on your wife's choice to abort your children it's like you're basically saying i hope you die like you should not so that's what they're going for and it's just like the end result of this in the longest in the long run is red states are restricting abortion blue states are allowing it that's a pressure system that flows in one direction people are going to leave blue states and and you know i hear people say yeah but tim immigration i'm like oh yeah yeah it doesn't matter the illegal immigrants that are coming in will still have the same access to abortion which planned parenthoods are mostly in uh non-white areas so like i'm sorry

man like the democrats seem to really hate their voter base. But they create more voters, the more chaos and destruction that they cause, right? The more that we stray from normalcy and goodness and beauty, the more everyone just thinks life sucks. The world sucks. I'm a miserable person. Miserable people vote for communists. No happy person votes for communism.

It's just not how it works. And so they want to cause disorder. They want to cause unhappiness. They don't want you having kids because that gives you an investment in the future. It gives you something to look forward to. They benefit from the chaos and the dysfunction. I just figured out the student loan repayment thing. So you got people who aren't paying back their student loans, right?

That money's basically a debt. That's a dead debt bill. You know, you go to some guy and you're like, where's my money? He's like, I don't got it. You can't beat money out of them. It's not there. So what do you do? Well, you can garnish wages, but then people are going to lose their minds.

I got a plan. Now, if someone owes you money and you're not going to get the full amount, what do you do? You negotiate a low amount. Okay. What can you pay me? So for hospitals and credit cards, they'll say what this is, this is a trick. A lot of people need to understand if you owe like a thousand bucks on your credit card and you're not paying it and they're mailing you and mailing you, mailing you, you can come up and offer them 300 bucks and say, you cancel the whole day. I'll give you 300 bucks. Otherwise you get nothing. They'll say yes. Not always, but they'll say, okay, fine. Send us $300, we'll close it out. This is what Joe Biden's doing.

He's looking at all these student loans, and he's like, you know we're not getting any of this money back. Let's forgive it all. You know why? The forgiveness qualifies as income, and then they don't get a tax refund at the end of the year. We get to keep all their money. So we're not getting back the full student loan debt. But if someone owns, owes us 10 grand and we pay them 10 grand, that's three K in taxes.

They owe us that when it comes to refund season, they don't get a refund. We keep the three grand. So we're not, they're not giving money with student loan repayment. They're just saying, you don't owe us anything anymore, but that counts as income.

Now you got to give me three grand. Yeah. And instantly comes out of your taxes without you realizing it. I'm wondering if we're going to hear a lot of people come, you know, like April, you know, just being like,

whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't get a refund this year. Yeah, they took it because, but you know what's going to happen is they're going to be like, well, my student loans paid off, so what do I care? But that allows the government to retain a large amount of money.

Just 804,000 people got paid back 39, how much was this, 39 billion? 39 billion. What's the average per person? And then slice off 35 or whatever, 30% towards taxes. And that's how much they're going to keep from the taxpayer without giving back their refunds what is it like like four thousand granted not every everyone's refund is that high it's only up to like the the um what is it what's what's the threshold for where you don't pay taxes like 15k or something uh something like that anyway here's a story from

axios just to you know to wrap up this portion of it it's not just that joe biden said he was going to uh he wouldn't run if trump wasn't running even axios reported a month ago democrats have been working behind the scenes a shadow campaign to get rid of joe biden so we're about to enter the new year i hope y'all are excited for the holidays i know i am and uh i i just, I don't understand how they pull it off. How do they swap out Joe Biden? Is this hint that Donald Trump gets arrested, or he's already been arrested, he gets convicted, sentenced to prison, and then Joe Biden says, look, you know, I said last year, if it weren't

for Trump, I wouldn't be running. Now that he's convicted, I know he's running, but he's not here and he's not a threat. And he's like, I'm going to bow out and hand it off to somebody else. Then the DNC declares Newsom or Gretchen Whitmer or something. I just threw up a little in my mouth when you said that. Whitmer, she can't win. So they would never do Whitmer. But some people are suggesting that.

They could do someone, though, like an Andy Beshear type, you know, out of Kentucky. Yeah. What do you think about Newsome? I'm not worried about Newsome. First of all, he looks like the dude from American Psycho, right? Like, he looks like the Joker. Now, is this – I want to push back. I just want to make sure I'm clear.

Do you think that your perspective is is the is the normie perspective or do you think your because the reason i ask is i was i was just in california last week and like my friends that are in la and stuff they generally don't look at newsome and see the reptile that i see okay like the normies i think that someone like Newsome is extremely appealing to normies. And do you think that your perspective is a normie perspective or the perspective that someone like us would have, which is that dude is definitely a reptile? Phil, I think your biggest mistake is that you're assuming people from California are normies.

Like they're the weirdest people. No, I agree with Phil. Newsom is a master debater. And that's why it was a big mistake that Ron DeSantis tried to go up against him because there's no upside. Newsom isn't a candidate. So the only thing that happened is negatives for Ron DeSantis. And the important thing to understand about Newsom is that as a lizard person, he can literally say whatever he wants to convince people. So if he were to

campaign or debate, he'll just say literally nonsense. He'll say, in the great state of California, our GDP is up 7.3%. Homelessness is down 8.9%. Don't believe the lies. And he just makes it up. And then what are you going to do about it?

Who's going to call him out not the media of course not there will be no fact checks he can literally say whatever he wants he can say that he was the 15th guy to land on the moon and that now he's here to bring his expertise in oil to California so go ahead

with your point but I really want to know if you think it's if it's something that you think is a non-biased actual guess of what the normal person is or something that you personally prefer. No, so no. What I believe is that the average normal human being has no clue who Gavin Newsom is for the most part. They have not been exposed to him. He can be branded. And I think I'm not depressed about Trump going after him.

Trump has a way of branding people. And I think that we have to fight differently, though. We can't count on the mainstream media to hold him accountable. This has to be fought at the local coffee shops, at the breakfast bars, that. That's our plan with Casper. We got to have these local coffee shops where when you walk in, we got TVs playing. It's going to be Timcast IRL. It's going to be Crowder.

It's going to be Daily Wire. That's the plan. Let me jump to the story from CNN. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. House Oversight GOP released document showing payments made by Hunter Biden to his dad. Documents say they were for a car. I wonder why CNN added that last bit. Documents say they were for a car uh i i wonder why senan added that last bit documents say they were for a car as if that changes the fact that hunter biden's business was sending joe biden

money you know it's like but it was for a car i'm like oh so is that what the corruption was paying for i don't know what your point is but uh it wasn't that much money it was 1380 dollars for over four months. So I think it didn't, was it four months? But yes, he was directly paying him. And so here's what I worry about. Sure, it's big. You know, Joe Biden repeatedly lied about having no involvement.

Oh, come on, dude. You're getting reimbursement from his company. Not only did he lie about whether he talked to any of his business associates, he said he had nothing to do with his business. And now it's you did talk to his people and you actually received direct payments from his business for which you are directly involved. And there's emails showing you being directly involved. Y'all, you're lying. Here's the problem. The House GOP seems to be dripping this one out so slowly.

None of these things are landing like this story. You know, I see it. All people are like, oh, hey, look like oh hey look at this but it's like oh okay i don't know one payment yo if they came out with one big hit and said here is all the proof and slammed it on the table and then maybe held back a little bit they would they would it would land much much better maybe that's the plan for going 2024. Maybe the October surprise will be the big syndicate org chart of Joe Biden on top with the red yarn going from person to person. But when they do these stories,

it's like, yeah, okay, we got him. He's sending money directly to his dad from his company, not personally. It's still such a thin sliver of a story. I don't think it hits that hard. I don't think it hits at hard i don't think it hits i don't think it hits at all right i'm not i'm not even convinced like if you had some kind of significant evidence of significant payments even that at this point i feel like would be kind of brushed

under the rug by by the the corporate media at least it would have to be something that was absolutely devastating to not be just ignored i really think that the the the the you know corporate media is just they're not going to report on it not going to treat anything like it's a serious i i kind of think i kind of think this is all just a mistake for the republicans to be honest nobody ever cared about joe biden nobody in 2020 the Republicans, to be honest. Nobody ever cared about Joe Biden. Nobody in 2020 cared about Joe Biden. Nobody in 2019 cared about Joe Biden. Joe Biden could literally walk onto stage and just take a dump right on the floor and walk out and it would change nothing.

His approval rating is in the gutter because he's a bad leader and this country is facing serious hardship. But no one's paying attention to Joe Biden, the man. Nobody thinks he's capable or competent. Nobody wants to vote for him. They want to vote against someone else so when the republicans come out and they're like oh look what the bidens are doing regular people are like yeah we don't like him either but we like we will vote for him so he it's it's it's funny because trump had that famous line you know i could shoot somebody on fifth avenue yeah well joe biden could take a dump on on the middle of the oval office floor with live cameras rolling and it would change nothing there's so there's been so many dumps on the floor tonight i mean oh yeah yeah we're

with uh with the dinks all that stuff with gavin newsom yeah i know a lot of poop a lot of it's a lot of taking a dump on the floor you know just in front of a bunch of people and but my point is this when you combine my my point by combining all of it is you know default liberal types literally don't care what you know they don't they really don't again like i'll reference like you know one of my buddies in in california we were talking and he's like you know one of the things that i'm really sick of hearing is like you know someone will be like oh well this guy did this but that guy did this and da da da and he's like't care. Put then, then prosecute them all. And I think that that's the way that a lot of people feel,

but they don't feel strongly enough about prosecuting people that are ostensibly on their, their team or their side. We actually want to actually get their representatives to do. You know, we are so past there being a system of laws in this country just it's not even a point to bring it up right we know we know joe biden did it we know what he did we know about the payments we know about the phone calls we know about the flying to ukraine we know why he did it victor shokin has sworn testimony you can lay it on the floor we know the crimes are being committed we know that on january 6 on one side of the building

police allowed people in pulled the barricades aside fanned them in opened the doors waved them we know the crimes are being committed. We know that on January 6th, on one side of the building, police allowed people in, pulled the barricades aside, fanned them in, opened the doors, waved them in, took selfies with them, and gave them tours.

And we know that BLM in Atlanta set fire to a Wendy's and were given a slap on the wrist and no jail time. They were given probation and community service. We know that the federal government has not charged the far leftists who stormed the government facilities outside of atlanta at stop cop city and it's a state level charge only there

the the idea that there is law and order in this country so when i say you know civil war people need to start waking up to what's going on okay the january sixers the people who are riding in violent i get it give them criminal charges but they just arrested a guy recently uh he he had flown to nashville for lady ballers flew back they arrested him on the spot even though he had already answered questions two years ago and he his story is that i think he stood at the foyer of one of the doors they opened and filmed and then left didn't matter they came after him anyway and they're going to get every single person didn't he work at the daily call or something like that i think this guy was a republican republican uh party official or something okay yeah the point is if you are on the right the feds are coming for you there is no semblance

of justice and they don't care if you think there is or isn't it's meaningless they are wielding power and violence against people raiding their homes if if you know i guess you can tell me what you think civil war is because i suppose if if nothing's being done to combat the corruption the republicans are super concerned about joe biden getting payments and not uh so much with january 6th you know now we're hearing that um they're going to release the remainder of the j6 footage but they're going to blur faces and of course everyone's saying yeah to protect feds yeah of course because the feds already have all the all the videos so here we go there's there's no there's no functioning system of laws we were swatted 15 times last year nothing was done they never found out marjorie no no we know we know what you do we we have a general idea of who it was and how it happened. And everything lined up perfectly.

And no matter how many agencies we call, and no matter how much evidence we submit, they just laugh and say, no. So Marjorie Taylor Greene just did an interview with Tucker, a guy released today, or yesterday maybe. She's had the same thing. They can't find out who swatted her. They won't give her any information. Well, to be fair, her circumstance and ours are very, very different.

But can't they find out who it is? I mean, she brought up the unmasked Carter Page, right? It is fair to say that, properly done, it is damn near impossible to track. Automated systems through routers, through fake IPs.

Not only that, I mean, you could take a Yagi wi-fi and antenna from an apartment building pointed at a wendy's a mile away connect to a public wi-fi and then make a call from scott yeah and they're gonna be like they're gonna say it was traced to a wendy's but how do we figure out who it was and all the footage it's not that easy in our circumstance we actually have uh we actually have serious evidence meaning that some of the addresses that got swatted are not public record. They're not even in government record.

You can't even search for them. So only a few people would know it. Only three people. And we're like, here you go. And they were just like, eh. And I'm like, dude, only three people have that. I don't even think it was three people. I think it was one.

One person. And they were like, meh. And I said, it just stops. They don't care. We even think it was three people. I think it was one. One person. And they were like, meh. And I said, it just stops. They don't care. We even had, FBI was involved. And they said, don't care. I kind of. The bomb, the fake bombs that were sent to us, they didn't care.

I'm like, someone sent mock bombs. To Shank Weeger or whatever his name is. And they no, no. And they sent out robots to our studio. And we were like, we have information on how this is happening. And they're like, we don't care. And I'm like, you guys have to come out for this. And they're like, never called us once, never asked us, didn't care. And so a lot of people actually started posting like, it's the feds doing it to you. And I'm like, well, I don't know about all that, but I can tell you,

they certainly like that it's happening because they're corrupt, evil, lazy, or a combination of all of it. Can talk tim you said you mentioned civil war are you saying that like there's already one going on against the right they just haven't recognized it yet well fifth generational warfare you can call it whatever you want some people it depends on your definition of civil war but if uh federal law enforcement is expanded weaponized and being used to target political opponents you can call it a soft coup. I don't know. You can call whatever you want. I mean, look, the Biden DOJ is going after Joe Biden's rival. Like the federal government under Joe Biden is arrest. It has arrested and criminally charged his chief political opponent.

Yeah, the federal government is not supposed to have an opinion about who the who which, you know, which political party is running the government. Like, they're not supposed to have a have a say. They're just supposed to say we reflect whatever the people will. Yeah, they're supposed to be a reflection of the will of the people. Not they're not supposed to dictate what people should be cool if they renounce their parties party affiliation when they got into the federal government. It doesn't mean anything. It would just be nice to look at look you can you could i think there's one strong argument as to why we're not in a civil war because there's only one side fighting republicans what what should they be doing uh they should be filing criminal charges at the state level uh you you could have a small district, ADA, file criminal charges, start an investigation over tons of stuff related to federal finance at the state level.

So if there is a state campaign happening in your red state, you can start looking into donations given. James O'Keefe uncovered a lot of questionable practices and donations james o'keefe goes goes to people's doors and says you made 10 000 donations you were making three donations a day and they're like no i wasn't where's a single republican prosecutor to be like okay it's time to investigate to launch an investigation of this they don't do anything meanwhile you've got the federal government literally trying to put the front runner for the republican Party in prison. So maybe it's not a civil war. Maybe it's just, I don't know, a coup.

I agree that there are legal ways to attempt to rectify, but I'm kind of with you that the law has become so abused in this country in the last 110 years, pretty much since the soft coup of the federal reserve and these jekyll hide jekyll jekyll island dudes you know jp morgan and friends that it's like accept it and just change the minds of the people so that whoever has the control of the mob is going to be good well that's the thing i i think it's important to mention that uh we're winning and that it's because we've focused on cultural issues and less so politics. So while it is frustrating to see Republicans not doing anything, the groundwork

being laid by, say, Rumble, by, I mean, Elon Musk, especially with buying X, with Parallel Economy. This is essentially, Dan Bungino, this is Rumble, this is several others launching a financial transaction system which we use for TimCast. you have public square businesses that support american values all of these things are creating chain mail that is it's it's it's that that's protecting us and and

as it grows it protects more and more of what america uh should be could be and and and in many ways used to be so while it's frustrating to watch a lot of this stuff happen, I think it's important to mention too, they can keep trying this stuff, but I think acts of force prove their desperation. The only way to stop Trump is to just cross the line and try to have him arrested.

That precipitates their fall. You know, the first that this whole parallel economy thing got really, really real for me was this past week when, uh, the lady ballers trailer came out. It's, it looks like a, it looks like a Hollywood level production movie, right? Like it's, it looks really good. It, the, the, the previews funny. Um, I don't know. It's like, we're finally figuring things out how to make it really work and take it to that highest quality level. I don't even, I't even i i yes but we should say who cares hollywood can go make

their weird marvel marvels that bombs worst worst marvel movie ever less than the hulk which one is this the new one that just came out the marvel oh the marvel yeah it made less money than the hulk did and that was considered to be like the black sheep of the MCU. And now the Marvels did worse. And I'm like, yo, they're losing culturally. They're losing really, really bad. Actually, you know what? Let's let's let's let's jump to this story and we'll talk about it.

We have this from the Financial Review. Gen Z could be the most conservative generation ever. They go out less, have less sex, and lose their virginity later. What is up with young people and teenagers? And there's a couple questions about what this really means. So let me break it down for you very simply. First, the most conservative doesn't mean that Gen Z as a monolith believes certain things. It could be that 30% are super far left, but 31% are super

conservative and then people in the middle or whatever. So now it's the most conservative. But what I think this actually means is you have to, when you're talking about conservative versus progressive, you have to look at the relativity of the previous generations. If you took someone from 1650 and compared them to Joe Biden, Joe Biden looks progressive as they come, despite the fact that he's an old man. Or more importantly, like Chuck Grassley. Take like an actual Republican

who's considered a conservative, compare him to a dude from the 1600s, and you're going to be like, the guy from the 1600s is backwards and super far right or whatever, however you describe it. So when we're asking why not someone's conservative, the question is, are they more traditional or less traditional

by the previous generation standards? And the argument being made here is that Gen Z is, is less traditional than the previous generation standards indicating they've shifted back towards traditional values in a way we have not seen in 100 years. We saw this data back in 2018. We're seeing it repeated over and over and over again. That suggests while Gen Z probably has similar politics to millennials, the fact that on certain areas they've moved more traditional, more conservative, this suggests Gen Z is actually the most conservative by movement not by politics i

want to make sure that's clear we are not saying that a 20 year old has the same politics as chuck grassley we're saying that a 20 year old has more conservative views than a 35 year old to throw a wrench in this uh this is they go out less have less sex and lose a virginity later i'm sorry to tell you guys the economy the inflation people cannot afford to go out and because of tinder and crap single one wealthy guys getting like 10 women so those girls aren't around to have sex with anymore for those kids those guys those humans right right right and and and that is a good point based on that statement yeah but when you also look at what we brought up uh previously that gen z actually uh is is aligned with boomers on the

question of same-sex marriage and the support for same-sex marriage has declined that actually suggests politically gen z is more conservative and i think this may be due to liberals abort their kids and about internet it just like ideas spread like wildfire with internet pseudo conservative ideas oh you know what's crazy and i'm just thinking i bet liberals get pregnant way more than conservatives do. It's totally possible. I think absolutely true. If conservatives...

If they got pregnant three times as much but had twice as many abortions, boom. Or twice as much but twice as many abortions. Look at the point they're making about having less sex

means you're conservative. Conservatives, and especially Christian conservatives, very religious people, are waiting until marriage, meaning substantially less sex and pregnancies. But then they have those kids. Whereas liberals,

they bang like crazy, more power to you, but then they get tons of abortions. There's actually some new trends that are troubling that I've seen that show that the teens are just having less sex. It's not because it's like the rise of the incels, right? Like they watch porn instead of having sex.

And I think there's a real, you know, in Japan, parents hire like strippers and sex counselors for their young sons because they don't pursue women. They view their computers as their sexual gratification. It's happening everywhere though.

Did you see Kim Jong-un crying? No. Kim Jong-un cried begging the women of North Korea to have more babies. Wow. And I'm like, wait, North Korea? They don't have the internet there. How are they having less kids there, of all places? They aren't subject to the same social pressures as the Western countries are. What do you think causes baby boom?

My theory is that it's an optimism in the future, right? So the big baby boom we had, what? All these guys came back from winning the war in world war two, it was a huge baby boom. I think we have a different problem now. I think that there's a real pessimism in the future and there's like a malaise that has taken over this country. And that's why you're seeing decreased fertility rates. Cause I tell you,

I have a lot of friends that haven't had kids yet, aren't married. And their number one thing is I don't want to bring a kid in this world it's so crazy and i and that that's always uh stuck with me because i'm going the exact opposite route i'm like i know i need more i need more kids to change the world wrongly feel like the i'm not bringing kids into the world because the world is terrible i feel like that's a cope it's a coat it is i really don't think that's and and i don't believe the economy stuff either we have no i've mentioned this eight casinos within two hours drive from where we are right now like these places can't exist people

are dumping money and some people say well it's credit or it's irresponsible like yeah sure whatever either way people are choosing to use what money they have on other things it's often said there you know people are always like we're waiting for the right time to have kids. There's no right time. That's a myth. It never gets easier, by the way. It gets harder. So I'm 37. We had number 6 when I was 36.

It was tough. You're more tired. You don't have the energy that you have when you're 23 or 19. I had my first at 19. Tons of energy. I mean, it was still tough and challenging, but it's gotten harder and harder and more difficult. Yeah, I can afford it more, but it is way more taxing on your energy levels and stress.

We got Americans are morbidly obese, so it's not food. So what is it? It is interesting. And remove it from the United States and look at North Korea. Americans are morbidly obese, so it's not food. So what is it? It is interesting. And remove it from the United States and look at North Korea. North Korea is having population problems, and we assume that they're starving. But clearly, food is not the issue when Kim Jong-un cries and begs his women to have more babies. It might be like a collective consciousness thing.

This is a bit out there. Woo-woo, you would say. But I do think there's something to collect. The collective consciousness when like nine people feel good and then the 10th guy walks in the room he's he might start feeling good too just because he can feel the energy like that that's global that's in the schumann resonance in the in the earth's magnetic field i think that there's some sort of communication but like i went through when i was 26 with this one girl we were talking about i was like yeah i don't want to have kids because what you were saying terry i don't want to bring them into this crap hellhole but i knew that was this one girl we were talking about. I was like, yeah, I don't want to have kids because what you were saying, Terry, I don't want to bring them into this crap hellhole.

But I knew that was kind of fake. We were saying it out loud. But in my head, I was like, it's not really true, though. But I did say I don't want to travel all over the world. Like my job's traveling. A lot of it is. It has been throughout the years. And I didn't want to leave them behind when I went and traveled.

And I don't want to be that dad that wasn't around like four days a week because I wanted to tour. I wanted to go to and I never ended up really touring. But I still want to go to her when I want to tour but i don't know it's it doesn't but then the loneliness of just getting on my computer and being like what another one of these days like there's more to life how is it i think it's really interesting that north korea is experiencing this they they rule they control culture with an iron fist so it is interesting to see that's

happening all over the place you know russia when they russia did this huge experiment in the 1920s to abolish the family and they were really they were too successful where they ended up having to reverse course because people weren't having kids anymore so what they did was they i forget the term for it but they like basically honored mothers. Like if you were a mother of X amount of kids, you were given like the ultimate worker title. And it was like the most glorious and venerated position in the country. And they, they ended up having to do a lot to reverse it. I think we're Americans kind of chose it though.

In the Soviet union, they liberalized everything they did. They made marriage a a five minute dissolution process uh they uh made you raise your kids away from the home that you couldn't even have your grandma or happening now it's happening but Americans like actively chose it right like we we now are doing this whole women's lib thing which you know I don't really care if women work but like why why do you why do you want, you're going to work for someone, right? You're going to serve someone. Why not your family?

Why not your kids? Like, why do you want to work for Jeff Bezos over these little human beings that absolutely love you and will do anything to get your affection and love? I just got it. I got it. I got it. I can simplify it dramatically. Why would a woman choose to enter a pickle jar opening a

contest against a man and i'm being as silly and absurd with it as possible the joke being of course women can't open pickle jars some women of course can my point is yeah many women are different and men do a lot of jobs that women would not want to do specifically due to physical differences like carrying bodies out of burning buildings is a job for a man why sorry dude i there are some women that can do it but on average overwhelmingly it's going to be a guy who can lift a body and pull them to safety out of a burning building why did society decide women should start competing with men in their role. That led to a massive decline in birth rates. What was,

look, I had, I don't think I had that unique of an experience, but my great grandmother, I saw I'm the eldest of an LL7L. So I knew my, my great grandmother was 60 when I was born. Um,

she was the matriarch, like no one messed with her. She was the boss. Like you didn't want to be on her bad side. You couldn't really fool her. I never really grew up with this mindset that like women were inferior to men. Like it was never even a thing. I actually always thought that like, I don't want to make grandma mad.

I don't want to make my mom mad. I don't want to make, you know, it was just always, but so like in my mind, women have always been elevated in our family. And I don't think that that's that strange for most of america i think most people would defer and do what their great grandmother said or what their mother said and so you have this weird thing where women started fighting for equality when they had the whole world that someone tweeted i forget who it was but it might have been peachy keenan who i'm a huge fan of but she said the problem is is that

when you proclaim that women can do every anything they end up doing everything they're they're they're the the breadwinner and the homemaker they you spend less time with your kids you spend the weekends doing all your chores and catching up on everything and i don't know i like women were elevated in society and they were i don't know it's puzzling the end result is simple the people who have kids their ideals were processed their genetics were well processed and the people who don't won't it's it's just that simple well you were talking about roe v wade earlier and and how and i think you're exactly right like the the real issue with roe v wade is it didn't allow the states to

experiment we didn't get to see how different abortion limits in different states and what that would produce. Everyone had legalized abortion up until the moment of birth. And that was that. And so now we actually have a situation where we can see the results of being a pro-life state and how that is more beneficial to your society. I think the report was 32,000 births

attributed to the overturning of roe v wade that's huge that ain't happening in blue states no so if we actually see population decline reverse in red states due to actual human reproduction blue states will still keep declining and then they can bring in all the non-citizens they want to show up their numbers but all that matters is do human beings have access to abortion? Yes. No. If you don't, you're going to have way more kids.

That's just it. Basic math. Y'all can make every argument to factor in every variable. But still, the overwhelming mass is going to be people in California. They may increase their population every year by 100,000 per se. But they're not having kids so it still will just be people aging and then passing on and then they've got to keep at at the bare minimum they're just maintaining themselves on a treadmill what if the illegal

migrants have the kids they also can have abortions too nothing's barring illegal immigrants from having abortions they don't seem i don't know this is a generalization but i in mexico for instance it's much more culturally uh acceptable to have large families and lots of kids planned parenthoods tend to be in minority neighborhoods and they target them mercilessly with advertising and pr it's so it's crazy you're you may be right and i have i have considered this that's uh a different culture and it's not and we're not talking about mexico it's not these these illegal illegal immigrants come from all over the world. Many of them are coming from South and Central America. They may be more religious and less likely to get abortions and the black girls. He's like, just cheat, just get rid of the baby and you can be rich.

Do it like white, white people do, but white conservatives are having kids. Well, here's the question. Then you mentioned earlier, the Soviet union had, had given women like special benefits for having kids. And I've heard like some countries,

lower tax burden up to like a hundred percent. If you have four kids, you don't have to pay any taxes at all. So would there be any value to doing that for women that are illegal immigrants in the united states i i i just don't i think as a matter of rules you can't give benefits to illegal immigrants i you can't do any incentives for illegal immigration they're breaking the law we have to control our border but i i do think that we have to do this for moms in america right they it my wife works so hard and she i don't know how she does it half the time but

it's it's almost like society looks down on moms, right? Like, Oh, you're a stay at home mom. Yeah. That's way harder than your joke of a job sending press releases out for Google, right? Like as, as some low level person, like being a mom is a tough job and it's the most important job in what world will you ever have little, you know, your, your, the people underneath you looking up to you like children do to their mothers right like you will never get that in the workplace you die you start a successful business and you die you are forgotten like immediately they move on they find a replacement you don't do that with your mom you don't do that with your as long as they're good you know what i mean but like i don't know i'm kind of ranting now but i don't understand the misogyny in general

where it's coming from or why i mean maybe it's just i wasn't around it growing up because i had similar to you like a feminist nominal mother like the family was so legit and she was like if she said it it happened like there was no denying her authority that was your experience too yeah yeah it's coming from feminists feminists want to uh so you get feminists who want to be in masculine roles. And so they attack and attack and attack the feminine role. And now we live in a society where the feminine role is looked down upon. It's insulted. And they argue that they're fighting for women.

I think that at the root of all of these, all of these people, these activists that are doing this, I don't think they came from happy households. Right. And so what they grew up with, they end up spreading to everyone else and they cause chaos and dysfunction for all of us. And it just, it's like a cancer. It keeps spreading. And I mean, I don't know. I, my, my, the women in my family ruled the roost. And you know, if my wife were

to say like, you're not doing this, guess what I'm not doing, right? Like I defer to my wife on everything. She lets me lead most of the time. But at the end of the day, they make the rules. And if they come down hard on something, you're not doing it. It's not happening. When I was like, I started making internet videos in 2006 and I was like 26 years old. And there was this girl.

I was like, maybe I'll start a family with this girl. And then I was like, what would my life be like for the next 15 years? I'll just be making internet videos of me with my kids. What value is that going to bring to society? And now I realize, oh, it'll show people how to have a happy and healthy family. And then you create it in one spot and it has rippling fractal effects. It's not like I need to go out there and impregnate every woman to have a bunch of kids. I need to show the world how to have a family. You know, there was a really cool Cheerios ad that came out years ago, like 2014, and it was how to dad. And it's this dad walking through the house and how crazy it is being a dad and how fun it is. It really showed the beauty of being a father. And we

need to make more content like that. Let's jump to this story as we talk about the potentials for 2024. Military.com says, Dozens of troops suspected of advocating overthrow of U.S. government, Pentagon extremism report says. What they're likely saying is that they found 183 people who posted things like, Get woke, go broke,

and I don't want to serve a woke military, but let's read what they actually say. There's that dude that got booted because he was a communist too a couple years back. Oh yeah, I remember that. He had the hat and said communism will win. An annual Pentagon report on extremism within the ranks reveals

that 78 service members were suspected of advocating for the overthrow of the U.S. government and another 44 were suspected of engaging or supporting terrorism. The report released Thursday by the Defense Department Inspector General revealed that in fiscal 2023 there were 183 allegations of extremism or supporting terrorism. The report released Thursday by the Defense Department Inspector General revealed that in fiscal 2023,

there were 183 allegations of extremism across all branches of military broken down, not only into efforts to overthrow the government and terrorism, but also advocating

for widespread discrimination or violence to achieve political goals. Widespread discrimination? You know, that sounds like some guy might be like, we'll go broke i'm like ah there you go he advocating for discrimination because only their rules and

he emailed like four people so it was widespread yeah he contacted enough so there's 11 people there's 103 allegations or what there's dozens 183 there's dozens of people they've identified so how many fed plants did it take to find them faking like they were going to set up a coup right that's what happened michigan if there's 183 allegations and they found 78 service members then you know you do the math a few hundred 105 that are feds it's gotta be so the allegations like well yeah but that's not a real one because that guy was a fed he was just goading people into saying exception because technically people in the military are already feds and he's overthrowing the government.

There are federal agents inside the federal agency. But advocating for the overthrow of the government, is that just, what counts as that? Is it saying that Trump actually won in 2020? It could be an FBI agent emailing a dude like, hey, want to overthrow? And then the guy's like, just puts a thumbs up emoji on the question. Like it could be that. It's probably he agreed. It's probably even more innocuous than that. it's like three dudes are sitting in a room playing

call of duty and then the fat just goes you know it'd be cool if like like trump actually got rid of biden right and like yeah sure whatever dude or they say nothing that's it we got them they didn't say no they just don't even respond to it he said well they didn't say no to it so that's agreement i dude i'm thinking of the business plot smith smedley butler 500 000 troops about to march on washington dc like they're talking about 50 70 guys you kidding me no i think the bigger story here is not that there's extremists who want to overhear the government it's that the u.s military is basically weeding out anybody who believes in this country and so what i see as being more likely here is the troops they're accusing of sedition or whatever or of like they're essentially accusing

people of sedition are probably like regular americans who are like hey man you know we got serious problems with corruption donald trump tried to withdraw troops from syria and they blocked him yeah joe biden's sons on an energy board in ukraine where we have troops what the hell's going on and if you say things like that they're they're gonna get mad about it they're gonna call you an extremist they're gonna look.com, they posted, was this Patriot Front? They posted a photo of Patriot Front to refer to these U.S. troops. Now look, don't get me wrong, some of these guys might be communists too. Like Phil brought up, there was that one viral story about the guy.

What was it? He like went to West Point? Yeah, he would have been a, as a graduate of West Point, he would have been an officer. And he had a shirt that said, communism will win or not. It was in his hat or something. It was in his hat. And then he held his hat to the camera. He held his hat and he did the fist up.

So he's still on Twitter. He's very low key and stuff, but I follow him. They discharged him? Yeah, he got booted. I see what's going on and uh in the u.s with the woke left and i just think they're 70 they're like a 70 overlap with nazis and the and the left i mean the hatred of jews is absurd the conspiracy theories the racial uh segregationist policies the collectivist action the use of symbols it's like

almost the same thing the whole of the like world war ii was the left fighting the left and they drew america in it was the communists and the nazis fighting which is they're both statist both collectivist and the united states is based on liberal principles which put the individual first and they drug us into their bs european garbage war they got fdr to go fascist he got rid of the gold standard he basically made this country super fascist printed all this money there's an argument that i can i generally have a bad a negative negative opinion of FDR, but there is an argument to be made that I've heard people make that is compelling. That is, FDR existed in a time when socialism and big government was omnipresent. It was ascendant.

It was everywhere and the policies that and the argument that that people make pro-fdr is that the policies that fdr put into place the the social safety nets actually prevented the united states from turning into an actual socialist country they were you know they were things that obviously liberals and and libertarian minded people don't approve of but the point wasn't intended to get more power to the government because they they they wanted to get more power to the government but it was to prevent the people from turning the united states into a socialist government now i'm not sure that that the argument is compelling to me i'm not sure that i buy it but i've i've heard it and you know at least it's it at least it's like well okay that makes sense when you think of the

context of the the whole world the whole western world at least in the in the 30s and 40s you know it was like that that was when you know big government and stuff was really having its kind of hate it yeah great depression 1929 and then all these governments are reeling all over the planet. Like, how do we get, how do we come back from this banker in set? Like, what did the bankers cause that? I don't really know, but I'm sure I wouldn't be surprised if the same guys that built the federal reserve that tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 with the business plot that, that made the bankers trust in 1903, like these bankers, J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, all these dudes, if they were involved with causing the Great Depression

in order to buy the country up right after that. And maybe they wanted it to be fascism, but FDR was like, no, it's going to be socialist. Those are the conspiracy theories. That wouldn't surprise me at all, because it was like fascism or socialism or die. It was one or the other. You either want massive central co corporate co-op or you want i don't know what's else the other option is

socialism social systems but without authoritarianism like less let's corporations centralized control i i you know these arguments about left and right and you know communist and fascist don't matter all that much it's authoritarian versus libertarian for the most part it's centralized versus decentralized and so whatever whatever they claim the far right to be is meaningless because it doesn't actually describe what their concern is their concern is other and then when we say far left it doesn't actually actually describe for the most part our concerns because the concern is centralization of power among anybody it could be corporations it could be government officials well there you go i guess i just you solved it thank you yeah you hit the you got the 100 yeah i mean centralization is no joke i mean it is you can see the power of it in mass mobilization appeal but then you look at kim jong-un sitting all alone in his his palace with all the authority

in the world and the women aren't having sex not in the world just in just in north korea can't make those girls get pregnant no it's it's actually simple it's because they want to be with with him oh maybe that's right they're all saving themselves hoping that one day you know honestly that that could be a component especially of centralized dictatorships with a cult of personality there could be a lot of women hoping that they get chosen so they want to be pure and that results in a trend in their culture there's also the possibility i mean allegedly if i understand correctly there's a lot of starvation going on in north korea and if you can't keep yourself alive because you can't get enough food it's probably hard to get pregnant too yeah if anyone that has a girlfriend or a wife would know that if she's hungry it's about that's about where it ends right

there i mean yeah yeah if she's hungry you're's about, that's about where it ends right there. I mean, yeah. If she's hungry, you're not getting laid. That's true. But I was more thinking about the biological process of, of actually building the human being inside the womb starts there.

But yeah, you know, Snickers cause she ain't the same when she's hungry and you ain't getting none. You want yourself. Yeah. But I don't know, going back to the military.com stuff with the claims about, I mean, it's a sensationalist

headline suspected of advocating overthrow of U.S. government probably is some dude on his computer being like, man, this this administration sucks. Somebody should remove Joe Biden. Whatever. Yeah, whatever it is, it's just about it's we're going into an election year. You know, there's there's less than a year until the the election and the the government wants the the media being an in my opinion an arm of the government they want people to be afraid of donald trump you know the way they were have you have you seen those videos where it's like joe scarborough yeah like trump's gonna

make rachel maddow he's gonna try and execute us. Like Rachel Maddow actually suggested Donald Trump will, we'll have them executed. So that stuff freaks me out because they project, right? Like they project what they're, what they really want to do. And like, yeah,

they're imprisoning us. They're one. You are 100% accurate. It's, it's freaky. It freaks me out when they start talking like that and accusing him of it. Yeah. I don't get it. What is it? The me out when they start talking like that and accusing him of it yeah i don't get well what what is that the new poll do you think with democrats

win in 2024 they'll start executing their political opponents i mean you know there are there are definitely people on both sides that are at that point where they're like look it's just time to start cutting people up you know i'm sure that's scary i mean yeah i think there's always people like that but yeah but like the question is if they are projecting and saying that donald trump wants to execute them is that a projection of them suggesting we have to do it otherwise they'll do it to us i mean that's where that stuff leads the you get these videos because we talked about like pearl davis and and and the manosphere stuff they you have all these guys being like nope every man in the world would cheat on their wives and it's like you're just saying you would

you're saying you would you're saying in your mind if you experience this you would cheat on your wife not everyone is like you so when they scream donald trump is going to do this stuff to us what they're really saying is we do it if we had the power and if they get the power they'll do it to us because they view that as the path forward i strongly agree with that sentiment people tend to believe other people are going to do what they would do given the circumstances why do they think this about donald trump is it because he said he wants revenge no it's because it's projection it's give a hint i don't think trump's at revenge he said retribution, right? Retribution. Yeah. So the issue is, the reason why there are these guys that are advocating this idea where every guy was given the opportunity to cheat on their wife, they would.

Yeah, I saw that one. Push the button and no one would know. It's in their mind. In their mind, they can't see a circumstance in which they personally would feel differently. They can't empathize or comprehend. Another person might be like, like no i would not do that and it's so shocking that the feeling in them is so strong the desire to cheat on their wives that they can't imagine any other man could resist that urge to cheat on their wives which is it's

it's insane because not only are you talking about a guy not being able to control whether you know how horny is to not cheat on his wife but that no guy has the integrity honor or force of will i think part of that part of that with the whole like people that are just like oh you know they would it's because they've never had the opportunity to like if you're a guy that's like in a situation where you get one girl and that's like you you landed her and you don't you, you don't get second looks very much. And, and you're not particularly, they're also saying they never found the one, you know, that you're just like,

oh yeah, I would totally, because well, that's, that's like, I would never have the opportunity, you know, outside of this one particular situation that I have.

And if I was presented with the opportunity, it would be such, it's such a rare thing. I, I don't feel like I could control myself and say, no, if you have options, you have options you're kind of like i don't want to mess up the good thing well it's it's it's it's also suggesting that these guys who are saying this never met someone they truly loved maybe and so they're just like these people don't matter that much to me i would of course break my word but i'm not trying to get into that conversation my point is this feeling

within people they cannot imagine thoughts outside of their perspective so when rachel maddow says trump will arrest and execute us in her mind she's thinking about how she would feel with that power and in her mind she would arrest and execute donald trump it is projection something they believe humans are capable because they're capable of it when i'm trying to empathize with someone that thinks differently than me, first thing I do is I visualize them with a blank slate, not literally a blank slate, but like there is no emotions. Before I try and visualize what they're feeling, I have to let go of what I'm feeling. That's the first step.

If you just try and feel what they're feeling, your emotions are already present. So you have to blank it. You have to get rid of it. And then you can kind of start to think it could be anything what they're going through why do i think what i have to say isn't is any valuable well let's talk about how gen z's feeling from the daily mail younger americans fearing 2024 election could spark a civil war are preparing for disaster 40 percent of gen z have spent money on doomsday preparations new survey fines and it was uh 2 179 u.s adults in january to february and they found 40 percent had bought uh prepping supplies

and the majority believe it's because uh there may be civil unrest or civil war in the next year i wonder what prepping supplies counts as because if they're just like oh they bought a handgun and that's prepping supplies i'm a little leery about whether they're actually interested in preparing for emergencies. But if there's like, well, I don't think it's that simple. I think it's it's they were asked if they'd spent money preparing for emergencies. So it's likely going to be flashlights. Change the batteries in my in my my fire alarm yeah there's so many i got i got a life straw we got a bunch of them yeah we probably have like 50 downstairs i ordered a

machete you know like i got a knife i got a life straw i got i got extra shoelaces just by turning i have to go hunting by blowout kits by attorney kits and gauze so it seems like a large portion are concerned but i do think that that the headline is a bit misleading. The reality is 40% of Gen Z has spent money on preparing for an emergency. Now, how many of them are doing it because they fear civil war? I don't know if it's that much.

That's actually not stated in the story. But I do think the fact that Gen Z has actually considered buying things these are people who claim to be broke can't afford food can't afford to buy homes are saying the boomers ripped them off and stole all the wealth and all that stuff but they're going to spend money preparing for disasters it says one of two things one gen z is as we already mentioned before more conservative and thinking long term and that's all it really means or in their world they are seeing things that give them reason to believe emergencies disasters and potential

conflict may be arising in the future the reason why boomers are probably less likely to do things like this is because in their minds civil war is not possible but to gen z society is already broken i mean these are these are these are young people who are teenagers in the first recession and they're watching all that happen around them. Millennials, I'd imagine, would be in a similar place. Or I wonder if this suggests projection as to what they

think is going to happen in 2024. Meaning, many Gen Z people, not all of them, not necessarily the plurality, are far left, are engaging in acts of violence every day, not necessarily the plurality, are far left, are engaging in acts of violence every day. And so the reason they believe they need to prepare for disasters is because they might be the disaster. So I think you're spot on. I think the only way an actual like open civil war happens is if Republicans take back power and then the left starts doing

activity. No, I don't think so. You think think it could be done started by a right winger i think it will in 99 chance be started by a right winger i i just i don't know i i think that i just don't see it i i think all of the talk about right wing the right wing starting a civil war i just think what what what are the hot catalyst issues that could lead to a civil war in this country? Donald Trump getting elected in what way? Like the Democrats you think will go and target States and I, yeah, I think,

well, no, I think you'll see BLM and Antifa on steroids. I think that you will have, they really do believe that he is Hitler. I mean, they have been brainwashed to believe that he is. I think neolibs do but when trump got elected the first time we had a large riot in dc and that was kind of it and then it wasn't until the summer of love that things got

truly truly bad it's possible that if donald trump won in 2020 west coast states would have seceded from the union as per that boston globe report which could be the catalyst for a civil war and so that's a more direct, formal. However, Republicans are more likely in that regard to just be like, see you later. So what I actually see is abortion, border security, and foreign war.

Antifa, you know, maybe would try and facilitate some kind of escalation of conflict. They believe they are because they want to destroy the system and burn it down. But in terms of issues that are affecting this country

that could lead to someone actually getting organized and calling for conflict, I feel like it's more likely to come from someone on the right. Meaning I've talked about Oklahoma and Colorado sharing a border where Oklahoma has banned abortion

in all cases and Colorado has allowed it up to the point of birth. That's the kind of, you know, oil and water mixture happening right there on the border that can result in major conflict. You've also got a child sex changes. Is it going to be a leftist who start who brings a bunch of guns and opens fire on law enforcement and government because a child was not able to get a sex change?

Or is it going to be a father and a crew of child was not able to get a sex change or is it going to be a father and a crew of his friends who get their get armored vehicles drive into california to rescue a child who was captured or taken kidnapped by by someone to give them a sanctuary sex change operation in the states yeah maybe that is what maybe the left you know they're passing those laws in washington and minnesota and california that allow them to the state to kidnap kids that end up making not even the state third parties so uh i think i think it could be oregon i believe it's oregon uh a a random person could bring a child from anywhere to that state for a sex change and the state will not go after that person who did maybe they're baiting maybe they're trying to get someone provoked maybe but my point is

the the left is is playing this game where it's just the destruction of the system all around everyone that when they take institutions they destroy it they wear it like a skin suit if it is going to escalate to a conflict it's already the left the federal government the administration that are targeting and destroying things if it's going to become a civil war it's going to be because someone on the right did something i can kind of like i guess i guess we can real quick i i guess we can say that this way the left is already engaged in the conflict it's not a civil war because only one side is engaged in violence yeah if so you take the hypothetical that trump got elected again and then there were riots again like there were last time

for whatever reason but last time i was like where's the national guard why is it three days now on the third day i was like what they haven't stopped these rights so let's say the national guard does get called up this time and then some nihilists in the crowd that are rioting are like i'm gonna die for this cause they want they have fully given up and they're willing to die they charge a police officer try and grab his gun get shot already happened yeah that kind of thing i can see like crazy disillusioned nihilists that maybe are wearing all black and they just run at cop like that could then the media will be like cops gun down and you're like well geez and then the media in flames i could see like that but my real concern is the power goes out the internet goes out and then just dude show up at your house with weapons and stuff i i just i think the most likely scenario is essentially that there is some small little thing

uh relatively small and the government says we've uncovered a plot and now they start rounding up people i think it's much i think democrats in power is much more nazi-esque right where they're not going to do what you described though i and i well yeah i mean if you're antifa if you're actually a militant group uh trump is not going to start rounding up leftists no he won't i agree i agree i agree um but but i think the democrats literally already already are and they're getting away with it they're getting away with it right and they're january uh six defendants who shut up an hour after the riot walked up stairs with no barricades no glass cops waved people and opened the doors and they were waving little american flags like what's going on here and then they were like now you're an insurrectionist they're like huh

we just walking down the street we don't know what's going on we weren't even anywhere here an hour ago doesn't matter those people are already getting locked up so the biden administration is already rounding up innocent trump supporting americans and they're and and they're being raided every single day so this is already happening in this country but it's a one-sided civil war right which is why it's it's i would you can say it's not a civil war if people on the right take up arms and start resisting not civil war where i think the appropriate path is donald trump is on a path to victory we're winning culturally and so the last thing you want is an escalation of violence to legitimize the things that the left is trying to do they want the conflict because a civil war would allow them

to destroy the constitution and then overwrite this country and march in with boots uh where a lot of regular people would just get on their knees and say you know do whatever you want so if trump gets in and we actually start arresting and removing these people and have trials for them then that's the victory i think if the culture is like hateful it doesn't matter whoever gets in is it's still going to happen if if it's like 1932 germany like we have an opportunity to change people's minds before they adopt Nazism. That's where we're at right now. Yeah, but the right... People call the right useless

because they won't even file criminal charges against criminals. The circumstance in which Donald Trump takes power and then starts actually arresting, prosecuting, and like Rachel Maddow's psychotic statement, executing people is zero. Absolutely zero. Trump did nothing during the summer of love riots.

He kept tweeting. He was tweeting law and order. That's all he was doing. Well, he, so I have a friend who told me he was in the administration, but he told me that Trump wanted to do the National Guard, but he was advised not to because the military wouldn't do it. Like they would not follow his orders and that it would cause an even bigger crisis to have military leaders. Then Trump lost a long time ago.

No, I, yeah, I'm not saying, but I don't, I don't, I don't know if, if that sounds a little bit extreme,

if you, if you instruct the national guard be deployed or whatever, because of mass riots, they'd just go stand on street corners. But, but, but look at Portland, right?

Like is, or is the Oregon national guard actually going to go into Portland and, and bring law and order to that city? Donald Trump, if that was the case, if I was the president and someone said, if you call for law enforcement to stop these riots, they'll disobey the orders and then it'll create a constitutional crisis where the president appears to have no authority. I'd be like, oh, I'll get on the TV right now. Let's roll. Let's roll, baby. Let's make sure everybody in Oregon hears me say we want the violence in your neighborhoods to stop and we are asking law enforcement to uphold the law and then if they refuse to do it then you say okay you are you are you are a lawless state and you are in an insurrection but they but but it's it's fair

that they wanted trump to do this to use the imagery and claim that trump was a dictator who was rolling in tanks and all that stuff that doesn't matter to me if trump was unwilling to shut down the riots out of fear of the perception and all he was doing was tweeting law and order then he was not an effective president so i do think what's likely going to happen is if trump gets elected is it just puts a puts a dam in place the uh the democrats have already i mean the clinton foundation's gone i mean they're bringing it back i guess their fingers are their fingers are crossed but if trump wins then this machine is is is done already with kevin mccarthy losing the speakership that's a billion dollars in ious

that are just toilet paper so if we keep this up culturally we're winning if we if and if politically we take it or even resist to a great degree it's done i and and i think what they desperately need is violence so again back to the point about gen z or is concerned about this perhaps because many of them are progressive and they know what they are going to do you know it's kind of like a guy who buys fire insurance on his house and the day later his house burns down you're like you were really concerned about your house burning down yesterday and then it burned down you know convenient yes hey jen zears you're really concerned about an upcoming disaster is there something going on in your mind have you been marching in protests right you get the point but who knows yeah i

wonder from just that headline that daily mail headline if it's actually conflated if there's conflated these people legitimately in the things that i am afraid of a civil war and i have because of that i have ordered it or they're just like they're just assuming they were afraid of a civil war they're phrasing it that way to get clicks but the reality is 40 of gen z prepared for an emergency a large portion whatever that means it could be 10 it could be i'd imagine at least be a double digits if you're saying a large portion or more than that uh said they feared civil war but i'll tell you what i actually think is very very likely i think the most likely outcome is that one year from now we are sitting in this room saying we don't know who

won insert state we don't know who won arizona and georgia yeah i think that's realistic that the day of modern politics is i mean you consider it over like we can't just assume that a vote does it now it's no longer that way anymore with machines and computers tallying stuff behind the scenes in secret like we need to make the world the best we can make it on our own and not have to appeal to authorities like that's the whole private sector the purpose of this country so let's kick it into overdrive yeah i mean we like that's essentially the argument that like the Libertarian Party has been making for 30 years. But the population really wants to use the government to make other people live the way that they want them to.

Like that's that's really what it boils down to, like Democrats that vote for Democrat policies. They they're really voting so that way they can instill the policies that they prefer and same thing for the for the republicans so the idea that you know that that we just need to empower people and and not have government be powerful that's the argument that you know like i said that's the argument libertarians have been making for forever and republicans used to make you know i think i think goldwater was was the guy that said uh liberty in in or uh extremism in pursuit of liberty is no vice there are people in the u.s or most people aren't really that interested in liberty the way that like you know the way that

we we hear people say they are because you know it just pans out in in elections every every and and libertarians believe in liberty but conservatives and liberals do not yeah conservatives uh conservative ideology entertains liberty to a greater degree than liberals do which is really funny it's like paradoxical yeah liberals today the modern liberal is one of the most cult-like you know political bodies we've seen in a long time conservatives however are like yo take these uh check out these um what what is the website idr labs or whatever uh moral foundations quiz based on jonathan oh yeah research and these questions are gnarly yeah one of them is like uh they ask you on a scale of not okay

so it's it's a very like it's what is the scale it's like not okay somewhat okay not sure uh not okay or it's like what am i saying there's there's not okay at all a little okay and then there's i'm gonna get back neutral okay but there's five there's five degrees that's what i'm trying to say yeah and so you can say this is good it's okay it's bad it's really bad and one of the questions is a man makes a lifelike doll of his niece for self-gratification is that okay or not libertarians are like totally fine yeah and conservatives are like no and liberals are, I don't know about that, but maybe. And so libertarians have one moral foundation. This is funny.

Liberty, that's it. They don't care about fairness. They don't care about anything they care about. You leave me alone. I can do whatever I want. So long as you're not hurting another person, you can do whatever you want. And the argument is, hey, this doll doesn't hurt anybody. Let him mind his own business.

And I'm kind of like, yeah, that's not okay. But it leads to more, right? Like, allow this and then guess what you don't just have that guy making it then he turns it into a company and now you have a whole pedophile industry of people that are now fueling it and guess what that pedophile industry that's making these childlike sex dolls it's now a billion dollar industry now they're reinvesting it into changing the laws a lot of steps beyond just the but that's how it starts but the point the point is that doesn't not take not to there's no reason to talk about that i think i can do the most extreme behaviors the point is libertarians care

only about liberty and if a society was based purely on liberty you would see very extreme things happening a local place lots of drug abuse extreme drug abuse libertarians mind like what you're saying if you actually child pornography the industry girls are being solicited for that industry which is why watching it is illegal because people are being used but if you have an ai that looks like a young girl and then they start to go into haptic feedback vr to have relations like it's not a sex doll it's an actual virtual image of a real person and the point is we're not talking about any of that the conversation libertarian go down get be down with the conversation is not even about libertarians it's about the question of liberty conservatives believe in liberty within their moral framework

liberals believe in liberty within their moral framework the liberal moral framework is substantially more narrow than conservatives and then true libertarians have an extremely expansive idea of what is disallowed morally. So it is like you can't just say we could say on a relative scale of liberal to conservative in this country, conservatives believe in liberty more than liberals do. I think the conservative party identifies with libertarianism really in a lot of ways. In a lot of ways, but there are a lot of things they would not accept like parents telling their kids to uh get sex changes or things like that so clearly it's not a there is a moral line where where conservatives say no you are not free to do this and also there's a lot of things that that we're portraying here as

permissive uh that libertarians believe whereas there are a lot of libertarians there are libertarians that are pro-life you know not all libertarians are are libertine libertarians believe, whereas there are a lot of libertarians, there are libertarians that are pro-life, you know, not all libertarians are, are libertine libertarians. There's an argument that anything that would hurt a child or, you know, actually that that's,

those are constantly made. Anything that would hurt a child is the same reason why you can have a pro-life libertarian, because it's not that the government is sticking its nose in. It's that the government, if there is a legitimate role for government, protecting the life of an innocent person is one of the things that would be a legitimate role. Here's what I want to say about next year. We're going to have an election in some kind of television sense.

There's going to be a, there's going to be, I'd imagine every state's going to be a there's gonna be i'd imagine every state's gonna have a lawsuit i can't i can't imagine i mean maybe the solid blue and the solid red just don't because there's no point any any state considered a swing state it's going to be jammed up in the courts you're going to have state legislatures coming out screaming being like no way no way it's going to get way more vocal when the media calls. You're going to have different media outlets. I think it's very likely you'll have like MSNBC say, and Arizona goes to Joe Biden. And then you're going to have real clear politics say, and no, Arizona is going to Donald Trump. Because they're just projecting who they think the winner is.

And the races will be contested. It'll be tight. There'll be judges ruling. Some sides will say they don't. Once I will say, no, that judge's ruling is void as a Trump lawyer or as a Trump judge. It's going to be a mess. Yeah, it's going to be December. And we're going to be like, well, we think Trump won, but the media is reporting it might

not be the case. We don't know. I feel bad for people that are heavily invested in politics. And I feel like those are the people that should not have political power because that's a cult. That is a cult worship game. And the media is fully manipulating it yep do not let that shit make you emotional just make your best stuff now what do we do we make a band we release a million to one next year in december when we're sitting in this room and we're like we don't know who

who the winner actually is because different media outlets are reporting different projections there's active lawsuits like we saw in 2020 and we're going to be sitting like i mean look what i'm describing literally already happened in 2020 you had states in lawsuits texas v pennsylvania a national original jurisdiction lawsuit and it was the media reporting biden won but the whole thing was being contested and a bunch of reports are coming about about coming up about adjudication but the state legislatures in in the states where it mattered were not holding press conferences were not challenging these these these results and they should have been and that would have forced mike pence's hand when it came to the electoral vote count or uh the certification process show this kind of show is good and it'll probably be good

next year too because we don't like punch at the system like we don't go directly at it and to like try and ruin it that's the big problem that a lot of people in politics make is they'll go right at it angry and that's this that'll lose you the game so you but we're good at like encompassing it i think just to let people know what's going on. But I think that complaining is not the answer. We've got to create something bigger. I would like to ruin it, personally. Depends on how you're into that. Because if it's a really bad thing, it should be stopped.

But it should be changed. Not just ruined into smoking ash, I think. Tell me what you want to turn it into. Failure needs to happen, man. That's what Ron Paul's been saying for 30 years. Failure needs to be possible. A pile of smoking ashes is kind of what i want just like nine thousand dollar cheeseburgers that'd be so horrible what we're not talking about economic ruin no not economic we're talking about the government the bureaucracy yeah the bureaucratic system the revolving door policies

the the lobbying system all of it needs to be shut down the government the the economy that we have in the united states can absolutely operate entirely independent of the government the government does not we do not need the government to have an an economy at all period in fact the the the when you argue against the the federal reserve and and when you're talking about the you know the creature from jekyll island and stuff the the argument you're essentially making is keep the government out of the banking industry because that's the first thing the government does to get into the economy you know so if you're if you want to have government if you want to get rid of the federal reserve you're you're by the very nature of the argument arguing to keep the government

out of the economy i i think the government needs to enforce fairness i think the problem with the fair reserve is that they're doing price controls on borrowing money on the on the value of money right like they're i think tim like you were pointing out that conservatives support liberty within their moral framework and liberals are the same way i think that's right but i think that the difference is is that i view myself as a conservative or america first guy i want i want the laws to reflect the basic foundations of morality you can't kill. You can't steal.

You break up monopolies when they get too powerful and have too much control over people. How do you get to how do you get to breaking up monopolies from basic morality? Well, if someone has the market cornered and they're able to jack up prices unfairly, they can really corporations should not private corporations should not have more power than the government nothing right but but it's that i think the government's actually causing these problems i know i agree i i totally agree i think government's doing everything it shouldn't and nothing of what it should so like that we have a liberalized government so i want basic things no sex changes for kids right limit? Limit abortion to something that's reasonable, protect the unborn, no stealing, no fraud, you know, all of that. The left, on the other hand, they don't believe in any of the foundation, the basic morality and foundations of it. They want to control every other aspect of your life. So it's like, yeah, get on unlimited

abortions, have free sex. But guess what? Now we own you. Now we get, get what all your income, we get to control every other aspect of your life. think that's the i think that's the big difference and so i think it's much better to start with the basics uh i i don't like the federal reserve because they price control the money uh but you it would be not it is nice to have like a banking system that all works and makes sense now the question is maybe this is just not possible i love that you brought up breaking up monopolies if that's like your number three thing you felt like the government should be doing uh behind what were the other two and hands whatever they were no killing no stealing no killing no stealing breakup monopolies breaking up monopolies is a huge part

of it like alphabet that owns google that owns youtube is like massively monopoly i mean you could argue it's monopolized social media they buy buy up upstarts that are threats to them that could disrupt them and then just kill it. And then, but the problem is like Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street aren't American. They're not, the American government can't like stop it. They're global corporations. So I don't know how antitrust would work in the modern age with. They've got some ties. There's always some leverage that we would have over i mean we're we still have some say over things how how are vanguard and black

rock like what are they a monopoly of uh ownership of corporations i don't know i would i don't know if i would consider uh the monopolies necessarily but they can't be if they are they can't be well they're i'm're multinational monopolies are concerning i should put it for it to be a monopoly it has to be like one industry that they control how about 20 of every industry that's how they get away with not seeming like monopolies how about something like a lot of industries if your assets exceed the uh a certain a certain number or something like that right if you if you're if if the value of your company exceeds that of several nation states then there's going to be some restrictions and it's you and all

of your subsidiary companies including all your personal wealth and personal wealth of those that you could argue are invested in your company if they have one percent of the company nobody that has nobody that has that has significant wealth is has it personally i mean look at elon musk is the richest man in the world but the reason he's rich is because he owns all the rockets at at spacex and he owns all the tesla cars that they haven't sold yet and all the machines and he can only cash out a certain amount of money in stock but i mean like if anything with bezos if i owned one percent of blackrock and i also had one and i also own another company worth 100 million dollars you'd have to take that company into account in the value of blackrock now

because i'm a part owner in it so right just be my personal it would be my corporate wealth as well but value is nebulous like value doesn't mean anything they're so entangled in in other corporations value that it's hard to like show like that's a monopoly on paper but it is it feels like it or trinopoly i don't know what you call it what what phil is saying is that you're talking about perceived value not actual value you're talking about imaginary wealth numbers yeah it's unrealized in what way what's it's it's unrealized because you're it hasn't sold so if you have something that's worth ten dollars right like like mines let's say they own the mines it's untangible that like what are those mines worth whatever you can get out of the ground we don't know you can that kind of stuff there's there's estimates that when you you you can look

at a mine they or at least people in the mining business can look at a mine and they can say well we estimate that there's x amount of of value here you know from from they'll do core samples or they'll do test digs and stuff and they say say, Oh, you know, we can, we can guess that it's about X amount of dollars per yard that you can actually get out of this. And it'll cost X amount of dollars to process the, the yard of material. So you're though they can actually do that kind of profit. And the same thing with like oil companies and stuff,

they can, they can look at what they figure an oil field is worth and stuff. So for the most part, when you're talking about, you know, that so for the most part when you're talking about you know that kind of industry like when you're whether it be mining or or you know oil oil stuff that's the kind of stuff that we're at least referencing now um in this context when you talk about that kind of stuff there's very advanced there's entire industries built around just projecting what you can get out of a certain endeavor whether it be you know an oil field or a mine or whatever so the idea that that you

couldn't tell what the value is that's not quite yeah true ad revenue you base it on last year's numbers yeah i mean next year's numbers yeah that kind of stuff is like we know that like all it remains we know generally what our our publishing checks are going to be because they're about you know we get similar spins every month if we don't put anything new out and stuff so it's just that when you say monopoly i'm not sure what you're actually talking about because it just sounds like the more you talk about it it just sounds like having the government tell people what they can do with their check out these weird numbers black rocks net worth as of november of 2023 it's net worth for the company is one point 106 billion that's all they're worth how much they're worth

that's the net worth of the company how much money they move around over nine trillion dollars a year that's so they're worth a hundred one percent less than one per they're worth that's they're worth a hundred billion but they move nine trillion around every year so they're worth nine trillion they can control that money no they're not worth what is money it's your ability to use it you're wrong a nine million under management so like value and money are not the same thing you understand understand that, right? Money is nothing without value. Right. Correct. Yes.

Correct. And so they're moving the value around. So they control the value. Unless your money is like a silver coin and then it's- Only if they want to say silver is worth anything is it become worth money. Their whole business- It's not they.

Value exists in the confidence of the people. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully it's a net. Hopefully it does. That's what makes it a currency. Their whole business model is to manage other people's money so the the trillions of dollars that you're looking at that they're managing that's other people's money yeah like it's like your banker

you don't give him your money and then the banker but if i had to just do it if i had the ability to give all you guys money and but i'm like i'm only worth a couple hundred bucks but i can give you 10 million if you please me that's not who controls the money that's not your money to give or it's not their money to give away exactly technically it's not but they still monopolize the ability to move it around it's not monopolizing people are going to them with their money saying i trust your expertise in this in this field to manage this money so i'm giving you my money your job is to make my money make more money some people are going to them other people just it's just being taken and given to them they don't even know they don't know black rock is what do you what is that

what did that they have a lock on the market the sentence that you just said what does that mean some people go into a business they work nine to five they give money they're 401k they don't know where it's going and that means the person who manages the 401ks for the companies has decided that one of the investments they're making is going to be black rock yeah and so a person takes money and brings it to black rock and says you manage this so i i buy etfs like every week i don't know what the individual uh funds in inside the etf they're like who's managing what and stuff. I just know that the ETF has the products that I'm looking to invest in. So I just buy that ETF. People that give their money to BlackRock, they go to BlackRock or to Vanguard or whatever. They go to these companies because they're like, hey, I've got a big wad of cash and you guys

produce good returns. So I want you to take my money and produce good returns the whole argument against esg and and when it comes to the context of black rock and vanguard is they're they're mismanaging people's money and so they are the the actionable situation is people give money to black rock and they're supposed to take that money and make it make more money but esg is not a the the foundation of esg is not make profit it's to make make these socially responsible uh socially responsible decisions so that means that it might cost money and if if you as a fund manager are mismanaging people's money. They give it to you. You're supposed to make more money for them,

but instead of putting it into something that is going to produce a profit, you're putting it into something that is ESG compliant, and you're losing money. You are not doing your fiduciary responsibility to the people that have given you money to manage. So that puts you in an actionable position. That means that you're in a position where you can get sued by people but that's true and they should be able to in a multinational court i mean they're based in new york city blackrock is but then what happens

when the government gets involved and starts saying this place is esg so it's not up to blackrock whether or not the money's uh gonna lose them money because the system's already ESG now, we've declared. I don't understand. Well, ESG is where BlackRock decides to invest that money that they're given. The government shouldn't be involved. You know, I'll table this talk for now. We've got to talk to Vivek Ramaswamy about it, because if anyone's fighting against the BlackRock monopoly,

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it's good you know there you go forerunner captain says gretchen whitmer is going to run for president she already has democrat funding lined up i hope she does she can't win she's like hillary clinton i hope she can't win well she can't like it's remarkable that in 2016 if they chose any other democrat donald trump would not have won i just don't trump trump it's like hillary clinton was the person for trump to beat really it's just yeah hillary clinton was uniquely unlikable yes right still is and so is gretchen whitman oh yeah yeah raymond g stanley jr says loomer calling massey an anti-semite is pusha crazy yet uh uh massey tweeted out what is it uh it's the

drake meme and it's like american patriotism he's like no it's like zionism he's like yes and then laura loomer said that he was being anti-semitic because congress is fighting hamas but i'm like i don't think he's being critical of trying to fight terrorism right i think he's pointing out that a southern border is porous and the and members of congress are more concerned with a foreign country chuck schumer complained at him for that tweet and then he had a pretty sassy comeback too what do you think i forget exactly what he said and i don't have it in front of me but uh something about about uh schumer not caring about the border or caring about the you know caring about israel more than caring about the border so it was pretty good jacob parodies says apparently the democrat senators

blocked a subpoena proposed by republicans to view epstein's flight logs it was on yahoo news a few days ago i well assuming that's true it's because they're probably on those flight logs so you know there you go james eaton says time is precious call your parents absolutely what do we got hidden zephyr says hey phil just saw that you and the guys will be a be a sonic temple in seabus yes you'll be at sonic temple yeah in what's seabus uh seabus columbus oh columbus can't wait see you guys memorial day weekend. Rock on. It'll be sick. Memorial Day weekend. When is that? Is that May? May.

Right on. Grofty says, don't break the UFO, Phil or Ian. Glad you guys are here, but didn't break stuff, lol. Alright, I'm going to try and fix it. I didn't touch it. I had to let it reset. Well, it's because you keep hitting the plug. You're not going to plug it. My knee is right underneath the cord,

so that's a little challenging. Have you considered not hitting the cord? I've been for about a year and a half, actually. Thinker for Life says, Tim, have you considered closed Tim Horton's Coffee and Donut Shops? What does a closed Tim Horton, what does that mean? It means they're not around, or they shut their doors. They're out of business.

Have we considered closed Tim Horton's Coffee and Donut Shops? Specifically, there's a really nice one in grand ledge where red don was oh you mean to reopen yeah take the location oh i mean we're not doing like yeah we're not going to be it's going to be it's going to there's not so there's there's there's a lot i can't say but our plan isn't to be directly involved in these things it's to decentralize but we'll have some degree of involvement it'll just be light it'll be more like a weak federal system where the rights are retained by the individual locations to you know and one thing we really want for all the locations is local and american made goods and furniture so when you're looking at big franchises like starbucks they have

everything's the same now we don't want to do that the coffee will be the same but i really do think it would be great if you went to a coffee shop and it was like, when we serve food, it's from a local farm. It's real American food and it's brought in the morning and then it's gone by the afternoon

and we don't get any more until tomorrow. You know, I don't like preservatives. We've been talking a lot about bread and gluten. And it's funny because we got these spin drift drinks right and there's this g symbol on it and i'm like well what does that mean i saw this on some like um chocolate bar or whatever and then i bought a chocolate bar that was like praline or something and it's got this

symbol it's the gluten-free certification and i'm like why is this on my seltzer water? Just kind of assume that. Yeah, I know. They put bread in this? But I guess. Okay, whatever. And yeah, anyway, we started talking about bread. And the suggestion and the rumor for a lot of people is that it's not the bread. It's the chemicals they put in the bread, the bleaching process and the preservatives that are causing people to have all these digestive issues and joint problems. And they just assume it's the bread because the bread is what they eat when they get the

symptom. But it's really something in the bread. Yep. If you get organic flour and make your own bread, you'll notice it goes through like water. I mean, not literally, but compared to regular bread with potassium bromate or that's sprayed with glyphosate before harvest for desiccants. It's noticeably awesome.

Ginger McIsaac says, look out for a 1099c cancellation of debt form if you don't get it report it you will get a cp2000 letter for underreported income about 18 months later i just explained an extra 3500 tax bill assessed for this reason yeah so all these people are getting their their college loans forgiven they they likely will receive a cancellation of debt form which is income they're gonna have to fill out the paperwork that would piss piss off biden's voters so bad it's like 4d chess like i couldn't afford it last year what makes you think i can afford the taxes on it this year that's insane yeah cam girl as soon as says tim you don't think dems are telling people to abort they literally are remember that comedian telling everyone to get abortions, for example?

Yeah, wasn't that Michelle Wolfe or something? She was like, you get an abortion and you get an abortion. And it was just like, you are a dangerously psychotic individual. I wonder if she regrets that. I think she regrets that. No. Oh, wow. Yeah, I don't know.

Lena Dunham said she wished she got an abortion. But the funny thing is, she doesn't have a kid. So, like, it'd be really bad if you had a kid and you were like, I wish I had an abortion but the funny thing is she's not she doesn't have a kid so like it'd be really bad if you had a kid and you're like i wish i had an abortion it's another thing when you don't have a kid and you say you wish an abortion because then she's implying she wants to get pregnant so that she can just have one for no reason it's like it's it's so mentally ill it's so crazy and it's death death is not something to joke about no no c'est la vie what do we have what do we have what do we have 19th shadow says

you are correct Terry I am miserable I am borderline depressed however I will still vote for a better tomorrow is that in reference to not having kids or something

I don't know but I do think that it's important like I like that Trump is saying that he's our retribution but big but

you gotta have a plan like you people have to have something they're gonna vote for and maybe there's a good group of us that want retribution but also Big butt. You got to have a plan. Like people have to have something they're going to vote for. And maybe that looks good. Group of us that want retribution. But also we got to fix some stuff, too. There's some major problems.

Ryan Sargent says it's easy. Joe has an unexpected medical event. DNC throws up any semi popular candidate. Yeah, but if they want to win, you need someone pushing and creating a narrative right now. Like the idea that we are like what is the iowa is a month away right six weeks wow yeah january five weeks january 15th i think yep ronda said he said he's gonna win what do you think his team no no it's not even close yo we really but what hey hey hey man. What if he does?

You're going to be like, well. Yeah, I'll be shocked. I will be shocked. I, you know, I will be totally shocked. He just did Peterson's podcast and it was all just Peterson asking personal questions about Ron DeSantis and it was not compelling. You know, look, I think the Daily Wire guys are really, really for DeSantis. I don't blame him. I think there's a really great argument for ron desantis but his campaign has just been

apocalyptically bad you need charisma yeah it's not even about charisma the dude could hide in a basement if his campaign was being run properly but just like attack you know look going online and having your your pr staff attack people is a surefire way to lose. Yeah. Will Chamberlain handles it masterfully. Calm, reasonable, and respectful responses to people who are angry with him. And I'm like, they should have put Will in charge of the campaign. Oh my gosh, it would have been so good.

Yeah, because a lot of what's happening is, Bruce Witt's master troll, Laura Loomer, how do I describe Laura? She is the most, there's no one who supports how do i describe laura she is the most there's no one who supports trump more than her and she is vicious when she when she goes for a story she's coming at you with everything she's got she's like a red witch that's not a bad thing right what is it she's a fire a fire mage fire fire she's like you consider her a witch you mean like in the woods you mean like a red mage from final yes like a red mage she's like a fire mage she's got that fire intensity the way you you

counter this is not by trying to imitate it because you cannot ronda sandis has no one no one as passionate as laura loomer and no one as as masterfully trolling as alex but the thing is alex and laura are they're mimicking trump himself so that's part of it no no no no they're they're they're raising up to his level of trollness and like de santis doesn't have that so there's no level it becomes awkward if you try and be a troll and de santis is he's like a logical book smart laura laura is like which is why will a figurative sidearm for donald trump like laura is not like trump you know donald trump is boisterous confident very very funny laura loomer is at the tip of a spear and and no one supports trump more than her alex brucewitz is tactful he's a strategist and he

knows how to troll so what happens is the desantis people get whipped up into a frenzy and respond enraged but it's like anybody who's ever heard like the old kung fu masters about not getting angry when you're in a fight because it clouds your judgment that's exactly what they did they knew that when they were engaging in this fight they're like i'm gonna taunt my opponent until they lose control and then i'm going to dance around the octagon and they're going to fumble in and just swing and miss and burn out all their energy that's what happened will is the guy who has responded masterfully but they didn't utilize them the campaign is miserable it's unfortunate really but to the jordan peterson thing i don't think we've gotten an actual tough interview

with ronda santos except for patrick bett david did pretty well especially with the boots that's i think it's as best as we're gonna get okay so i i don't look i think it's hilarious that pbd brought the boots out and stuff i don't know if that qualifies as a serious interview though because of the boots has has was like a gotcha moment. Has anyone asked DeSantis about his campaign? I mean, this is a huge talking point where everyone's saying his campaign is being mismanaged and he won't fire these people. I don't know how he didn't fire Christina Pichot

a long time ago. That's who he should have fired right away. She was the linchpin and all that it seemed like. I think, I said it before, I'll say it again. I don't remember, was it Brucewitz or was it Brucewitz put out the photo with her knees were photoshopped to be red like make it was alex was it was it i don't know that's funny if it was though i didn't know a photo was released showing her with a bunch of people someone used photoshop to make her knees look like

they were red from being on the carpet and i think that broke her because it was around that time she went from encouraging and cooperative with all of the people who are in this space to instantly just anyone who dares say anything about Ron, she is going to just attack relentlessly along with all of her staff and these other influencers. It was like a switch was flicked. I think that broke her.

You know, she was running this campaign we we had talked to her before like our people had asked her to come on she said yes where it was really cool and then that moment happened and then all of a sudden she's just screaming at the top of her lungs and bashing her face into the wall like like a lunatic and that's what it's been ever since to have that kind of vanity in politics is like yo you're gonna get made fun of and then you're gonna be up against vladimir putin's chief of staff and like how are you gonna handle that when they when the real stuff's on the table and now it's not about your looks anymore i don't trust her i didn't trust it their campaign was terrible all right we'll grab some more we've got uh william who ubalis is that he pronounced it

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Feliz Navidad. All right. We got Waffle Sensei says, I don't know exactly what will happen in the next year. I see them locking up Trump, maybe bout removal. Biden drops out potentially for Newsom. But even if we lose this election, we are still winning the culture and the future. That's the interesting thing that the only option they're really going to have is they have to win and they have to start locking everyone up they gotta lock up ian they gotta lock up me they gotta lock up terry phil you're cool but they'll they'll make you write songs that are in support of them

they're not gonna like i think this is like it's people are realizing how how unimportant politics is like it's never been part of my life that big if my friend voted for whoever we'd be like oh you voted for that guy okay i voted for the other guy let's go play cards and like we're back to that we're back to like real life where you make life good or no one does but but but we are we're still there we never left right so the way i describe it is you've got the left and the right these two like overlapping balls in a venn diagram and then on on the left, this tumor started to grow and then it got bigger and bigger and then eventually just slopped off onto the ground.

And that's the left. And the left and right still there. I don't, like if I would have a conversation with Ben Shapiro, we'd be like, here's what I disagree on. Well, here's what I disagree on. Like, oh, interesting. Who are you voting for?

I'm voting for him. I'm voting for him. Like, oh, wow, we'd shake hands, we'd leave. That still exists. I can still sit down with glenn beck as someone who leans more to the left than he does and we can laugh and make jokes and we can talk about who we think should we should win and why and then once we're done we'll back well good luck to you man i i hope you get the vote i guess there is it is a bit more intense and politics are a little more important because of the economy because of the inflation is is like people were telling me for the last 25 years yo the american empire is going to end the american empire is coming to an end just so you know and it seemed so like fantasy reality like okay i

believe you but i don't see it i can't see it until it happens and now we're like okay mass inflation this is sort of how it happens wow look at this is too busy trolling says i got demoted from sergeant for posting donald trump make our unit great again also letting us grow beards will not solve the retention problem i guarantee it is that what they're doing maybe you can grow beards now i heard that there was like something that happened a while ago they said it was racist to make uh people in the military shave because uh black people have different shaving issues and they get ingrown hair or something so some it was actually some leftist activists were complaining

about this i think it was like an occupier it's supposed to be for the soldier's own safety i think so you don't get your face grabbed in a in a melee no i mean arguments from uh it comes initially from like wearing uh gas masks when it was important but they said it doesn't really matter anymore but i don't know now it's all about like tradition etc phil probably probably no more of that than i do well i mean it was because gas masks and stuff like that and then like when when they allowed like when seeks became more prevalent in in the u.s uh seeks and muslims can't shave or they're not supposed to shave for their religion so that became a thing that the military started to take into account so there are i believe there are if you're a Sikh you can and you're in the marine corps you can wear a

a i forget a turban a turban okay yeah you can wear a turban uh because you don't get your dress uniform or your facial hair whatsoever yeah but if they get gassed they just don't no they just put a mask still works mask still fits never it's not it's not about that anymore it's the connection is still fine so yeah and and i mean most of the gas stuff that people worry about now is cs gas yeah yeah exactly if you're if you're going into a place where the military thinks that they that you might have an issue with actual like nerve gas or something they would probably be like look guys you don't have to shave uh but you're gonna die if you don't you know so you probably should all right paul tascalo says re-swatting no such thing as private information everything is publicly available if you know where

to look there are a few holes you need to plug reach out i'll show you i used to find people when i was a lawyer uh i see what you're saying but i disagree there absolutely is private information and i will stress the levels that we went to protect certain information is absurd and i'll keep it simple they're absolutely our ways of protecting information and making and guaranteeing it nobody finds it like i i can already tell you this um people did this in seattle yagi antennas outside your house which allow to uh so you you can get uh what is it what is something reasonable with a decent yagi like a kilometer range yeah so yagi are directional wi-fi antennas you point it out your window you can't see because

it's in the building it's aimed up uh and we're talking about someone on a hill pointing it down and they're getting Starbucks Wi-Fi from like a kilometer away. You're not going to find that person there. They're using air gapped computers with no information that were recycled numerous times. The argument could be that, well, we traced where we're not. These are people who built random components, spoof the information using custom operating systems or using things like Tails OS. So they've really jammed up how you can track it down. And even if you were to figure out the machine they were using based on the machine's information it was giving out, you still wouldn't know how they connected the Wi-Fi. You'd know that within a certain range, okay, maybe within a kilometer, you start searching.

But they could have lit that computer on fire and it's completely gone. As for like properties and things like this, oh, come on, it's so simple. Someone else buys a property and they buy it under a trust. So the benefactor isn't related to you. There's no way to search for that person if you don't know what their name is. So we're not talking about like banking information or credit card information, which can be found. We're saying something like, imagine a guy wants to be able to stay in a house. So someone else is listed as a benefactor on a trust which owns the property, and it is in no way connected to the other person, and this is a random person from another state or a corporation from another state, which is a subsidiary of another corporation, and then it never traces back to the original person who's intending on living there. Look how easy it is to hide ownership of assets, BlackRock. Not even –

I'm not talking about ownership because that would be a tax issue i'm saying somebody wants to live in a house and have it obscured then a random third party is the benefactor on a trust that owns a property and the trust is based from out of state and so how do you know to search for john doe if you're looking for ian crossland you would not it's impossible how do you if you're the owner of the house how do you guarantee that you still own the house i'm not talking about ownership i'm talking about obfuscating your residency so you are living in a house that the only way they could probably find it would be by physically stalking you but if we're if that's not the issue and we're talking about someone out of state getting access to information, then we're talking about someone just generally leaking information. Otherwise, again, like a trust is formed in state A, the benefactor is

person B, I'm sorry, the beneficiary, the trust owns the property, and then you, Ian, are staying in that property and, you know, paying rent or something in cash, or maybe you're not paying rent. Maybe you're staying there. How would the swatter know to search for person B at the benefit or the trust's name? They could make guesses. Now, this person lives in this area, look for a property owned by a trust, and then it gets even easier.

Now, it's bought in a third party's name who owns the property and lets you stay there, and they don't know you know that third party and don't even know what even name to look for. I think the mail, the USPS has their mailing list that they sell. You know, companies can sell their mailing list.

Can, can someone get ahold of that? Like the address of every American citizen with a house. I wonder if they used to do that in the phone book, the white pages. Yeah. Right. Just so in terms of our property that got swatted swatted, I won't explain how we did it.

It wasn't the way I just explained, but there are ways to buy property to have the information protected. Somehow the swatters got access to this information, which was only available to three people. And I don't want to say more than that for security reasons. And so we went and said, hey hey we can rule out how this happened and they were just like man you know as a brief aside like the whole encryption era of like having protected data i was talking to this computer scientist he's like well you and quantum encryption is broken they're gonna undo all the past 20 years of encryption and everything all your emails everything is going to be gonna undo all the past 20 years of encryption and everything all your emails everything is going to be public of all the people it's going to be like a war hack like anyway i

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