Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #917 GOP DEBATE LIVE Commentary, Trump Will Go FULL DICTATOR For one Day w/Tom Sauer
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It is the lesser known GOP debates tonight.
So we're going to hang out and I guess make fun of the remaining people who aren't going to be president.
Okay, look, we were big fans of Vivek Ramaswamy, but let's be real.
As much as we like the guy and as much as a lot of us have routinely praised Ron DeSantis'
leadership in Florida, none of these guys are going to be president.
But I think it's still worth listening to what they have to say and then probably making
fun of a lot of it or agreeing with some of it.
You know, credit where credit's due.
I don't know what Chris Christie is still doing here, but whatever.
Fine if he wants to be there. There is a bunch of
news that might come up.
Donald Trump basically said he'll be
dictator for one day, just one day.
And that was pretty funny. Joe Biden just
canceled a whole lot more student debt, so we'll try to
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Tom Sauer.
Hey, what's going on, guys?
Hey, such a pleasure to be back here with you guys.
Total honor. Really enjoy it.
So I'm a Navy Marine Corps Special Operations Veteran,
and I run a company
that serves exclusively veterans
for mental health
and addiction treatment.
That's what we do.
So I was in town
on the hill
advocating for
all the guys and gals
who are really seeking help.
But obviously,
having a good time.
Debate is beginning.
Enjoying this.
Let's go.
We got Hannah Clare.
Hell yeah.
I'm Hannah Clare.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
Otherwise known as Scanner.
I have my crystals and I'm Ian Crosslandland what's happening and i'm serge.com and uh let's get right to it let the debate begin and we are live on news nation and the cw
oh the cw is make or break time for the candidates i would love it if they had like an arrowverse
cameo primary starting just weeks away and we have a lot to cover over the next two hours.
Ron looks tall.
Yeah, I was looking at his shoes.
He looks taller.
It's good for him.
The candidates will have 90 seconds.
Oh, look it.
He's wearing them.
He's wearing them again.
He looks good.
You can see his boots.
You can see his boots.
You will all see the timing lights.
Will indicate when time is up.
Black and white.
Oh, he does not look good, man.
Wow. The time we have is look good, man. Wow.
And the time we have is critical over the next two hours.
So we ask the audience to please keep your applause to a minimum.
Excellent.
All right.
With that, let's get started.
Is that Megyn Kelly?
On stage tonight.
Why is Chris Christie still here?
Four candidates.
Chris Crisco.
Because he's wealthy.
I don't know Chris Crisco.
And given the state of affairs in our political system right now.
Yes, he is large.
One of you might very well do it.
Even many Democrats now admit that President Biden is a weak candidate.
Just as many Republicans acknowledge that former President Donald Trump's
multiple legal troubles could imperil his quest for a second term.
All of which means one of you could wind up the leader of the free world.
Having said that, Mr. Trump is nearly 50 points ahead of all of us.
29 points ahead in Iowa, where the GOP caucuses are less than six weeks away.
And so, as Republicans get ready to vote on whether any of you might be preferable to Mr. Trump,
we begin with the question of electability.
Governor DeSantis,
your campaign and its super PAC have spent the most money,
had the most high net worth donors,
and had a wave of momentum coming into this race
after your big re-election win in Florida.
You were seen by many as the candidate
most likely to consolidate the non-Trump field.
But here we are, a month out from the first real votes.
Smile, bro.
And you haven't managed to do it.
They tried that.
You saw it, right?
He got roasted over smiling.
In fact, Nikki Haley is beating you in New Hampshire and South Carolina now and closing
in on you in Iowa.
Not to mention Trump, who is not only dominating in the early states, but is beating you in
Florida by over 30 points.
Jeez, just laying on him.
What would you say a Senator Tim Scott did when he dropped out,
that voters are telling you, not no, but not now.
Only Rosie McDonald.
So we have a great idea in America that the voters actually make these decisions,
not pundits or pollsters.
I'm sick of hearing about these decisions.
That was them.
In November of 2022, they said there was them. Yeah, that was them. In November of 2022.
They said there was going to be a big red wave.
It was going to be monumental.
And that crashed and burned.
The one place it didn't crash and burn was in the state of Florida.
They weren't predicting that I would win the way I did.
And I won the greatest Republican victory in the history of the state of Florida.
I'm looking forward to Iowa and New Hampshire.
The voters are going to be able to speak and we're going to earn this nomination. And here's
what we need. I am sick of Republicans who are not willing to stand up and fight back
against what the left is doing to this country. You've got to be willing to stand strong and
you've got to be willing to beat these people. I'm the only one running for president that
has beaten these people on issue after issue. We beat the teachers unions when we did school choice. We beat Fauci on COVID.
We beat George Soros when we removed two of his radical district attorneys. We beat the Democrats
on election integrity. I have delivered results. That's what we need for this country. And you
have other candidates. State governor Nikki Haley. She caves
any time the left comes after her,
any time the media comes after her.
I did a bill in Florida to stop the gender
mutilation of minors.
It's child abuse, and it's wrong.
She opposes that bill.
She thinks it's fine, and the law shouldn't
get involved with this. If you're not willing to
stand up for the kids, if you're not
willing to stand up and say
that it is wrong to mutilate these kids, then you're not going to fight for the people.
He's in trouble now because he can never take them off.
I will fight for you and I will win for you.
He would drop three inches overnight on TV.
Ambassador Haley, you left government service in 2018 with just $100,000 in the bank.
Five years later, you're reportedly worth $8 million
thanks to lucrative corporate speeches
and board memberships like you had with Boeing.
Weeks ago, you met with Wall Street heavyweights,
including leaders from J.P. Morgan,
Goldman Sachs, and BlackRock.
Several other billionaire investors
are reportedly ready to endorse you,
or recently have,
all of which comes with expectations.
Aren't you too tight with the banks and the billionaires to win over the GOP's working
class base, which mostly wants to break the system, not elect someone beholden to it?
If she said yes, I might actually consider it.
Well, thank you.
It's great to be here.
First, I'll tell you, just to respond to Ron, he continues to lie about my record.
I actually said his don't take a bill didn't go far enough
because it only talked about gender until the third grade.
And I said it shouldn't be done at all.
It's not a terrible move, to be honest.
And they're like, oh, she's worth $7 million now.
It's like, that's pretty weak, actually.
If you're like a governor and ambassador and like, oh, I don't book you.
You only made $7 million.
That's kind of weak for, you know, come on.
I was a Tea Party candidate when I became governor.
Because it was popular.
We opposed every single corporate bailout we possibly could.
We passed tort reform.
We passed one of the toughest illegal immigration laws in the country.
We passed pro-life bills.
We moved in unemployment from 11% to 3%.
We took on the unions, and we took on Obama.
When it came to the unions, the Syrian refugees and everything in between.
This is a horrible question.
I actually am really impressed with Ron DeSantis so far.
That's not true.
Because standing in those heels is probably really hard.
But it's true.
It stretches your calves.
I don't ask them what their policies are.
They got like a whiny sound.
They ask me what my policies are.
And I tell them what it is.
Sometimes they agree with me.
Sometimes they don't.
Some don't like how tough I am.
Trump is like a schoolyard bully who's
like ganging up on someone else with his buddies behind
him going like, look at that fat cow over there.
She's so fat. Yeah, everyone loves it.
That's who I am. And that's why she just
doesn't give presidential to me. The most conservative grassroots group
in the country, Americans for Prosperity,
endorse me. She gives ex-wife
to me.
She's going to replace wife to me. She didn't respond to the criticism.
She's going to replace
Jill Brand as America's ex-wife.
It was about prohibiting
sex change operations
on minors. They do puberty
blockers. These are irreversible.
Talk to Chloe Cole. She went through
this. Now she's an adult. She's warning against it.
She may never be able to have kids again.
That is what Nikki Haley opposed.
She said the law shouldn't get involved in that.
Which is wild, by the way.
When she waffled on that, like, what the hell?
I mean, his campaign has totally coached him.
I don't think the field is narrow.
That is the truth.
But Haley, like, did not give an unequivocal answer on this.
I said that if you have to be 18 to get a tattoo,
you should have to be 18 to have a tattoo, you should have to be 18
to have anything done to change
your gender. You said the law should stay out of it.
No, she said it was like up to
the parents. And it's like, no, actually, no.
No, it's not. You shouldn't be a parent for that one. Sorry.
Coming back to this issue.
You don't get to mutilate your kid.
For months, you campaigned as a unifier.
Then you stood up at the first debate
and attacked all of your competitors as
bought and paid for. The second debate, you changed your tune, saying, these are good as a unifier. Then you stood up at the first debate and attacked all of your competitors as bought
and paid for.
The second debate, you changed your tune saying, these are good people on this stage, admitting
you can come across as a bit of a know-it-all and rejecting the practice of personal insults.
By debate number three, you called Nikki Haley corrupt, accused Ron DeSantis of wearing high
heels and told her that she should keep a closer eye on her daughter. He smiles! He's not wrong.
He's like, yeah, Ann.
He's like, that was funny.
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To question your authenticity. Megan, I think there's a time and place for everything. We need
somebody in the White House who absolutely is going to be a fighter when it counts. And I did
say that there were some good people on that stage in that third debate. Doug Burgum was on that stage
at that time. Yeah, Burgumania. Jokingly, Rhonda Sands is a good person too. I want to go back
though to Nikki Haley's comment from earlier that she is somehow not responding to the will of these donors.
Nikki, you were bankrupt when you left the U.N.
After you left the U.N., you became a military contractor.
You actually started joining service on the board of Boeing, whose back you scratched for a very long time,
and then gave foreign multinational speeches like Hillary Clinton is, and now you're
a multi-millionaire. That math
does not add up.
Hillary Clinton compares it.
And when I said they were bought and paid for,
I meant the Republican establishment.
Not the Democratic establishment.
She does not like him.
Now you have Reid Hoffman, the person who's
effectively George Soros Jr.,
funding lawsuits across this
country against Donald Trump to keep him off the ballot, funding left-wing causes, who's effectively George Soros Jr., funding lawsuits across this country
against Donald Trump to keep him off the ballot,
funding left-wing causes.
We discover this week that he is one of Nikki Haley's largest supporters.
Larry Fink, the king of the woke industrial complex,
the ESG movement, the CEO of BlackRock,
now supporting Nikki Haley.
And saying that this is a factor is false,
because it's after
that meeting later that day that she says that every american needs to be doxed by having their
id their government issued id tied to what they say on the internet so i think that this is far
more corrupt than i even imagined when i entered politics but i will say this. It is going to take a leader from the outside
with fresh legs
from the next generation to unite this country.
Not the broken politicians
who are puppets of the puppet masters,
but the actual people in this country.
Thomas Jefferson was 30 when he wrote
the Declaration of Independence.
I think it's going to take somebody
whose best days in life are still ahead
to see a country whose best days are ahead of itself.
And I think I can reach that next generation better than anybody else in this race.
On this stage, I'm the vague all day.
All day.
He always can outperform everybody verbally.
He answered perfectly.
First of all, we weren't bankrupt when I left the U.N.
We're people of service.
My husband is in the military military and I served our country as
UN ambassador and governor. It may be bankrupt to him, but it certainly wasn't bankrupt to us.
Secondly, I did serve on the board of Boeing. I did a lot of work with Boeing when I was governor.
They were a great partner to me. I served for 10 months. And then when they decided after COVID
that they wanted to go for a corporate bailout. I've never supported corporate
bailout. So I respectfully stepped back and got off the board. I love Boeing. They build good
commercial airplanes. They build airplanes for our Air Force. I am proud of them. They employ a lot
of people in South Carolina, but that's why I left the Boeing board. There's nothing to what he's
saying. And in terms of these donors that are supporting me they're just jealous they wish that they were supporting them but i'm not gonna say they just want to date me they're just jealous
because they got the sweet
book talking about esg and these woke corporations in blackrock the idea that i want to do that in
florida they were managing our pinch part of our pension and then when they did the ESG, I took $2 billion away from BlackRock.
We took action. This ESG... Why is the camera shaking?
The camera doesn't agree. Yeah, it doesn't agree.
And again, Nikki is meeting with all these people. He shook his head yes, and the camera went no.
They want to use economic power to impose a left-wing agenda on this country. They want
basically to change society without having to go through the constitutional process.
We've kneecapped it in the state of Florida.
The next president of the United States needs to be able to go to that office on day one and end ESG.
And the fact of the matter is, we know from her history, Nikki will cave to those big donors when it counts. Ron's 100% right.
100% right.
I didn't write that book.
Quick, quick, quick.
I didn't write that book, Ron.
And the irony is, Nikki Haley was heaping praise on me when I wrote that book.
Chris Christie has not even said anything yet. I didn't write that book, Ron. And the irony is Nikki Haley was heaping praise on me when I wrote that book.
But now I worry.
I was warning about the woke industrial complex in this country.
My wife just texted me saying this looks like Mystery Science Theater 3000.
You know, we're just like watching and commenting.
Far more dangerous than that.
It's really important for people to understand.
Great show.
We're marching towards fascism under Biden. Jack Smith has subpoenaed every last retweet that someone has issued from Donald Trump in the year 2020.
The only person more fascist than the Biden regime now is Nikki Haley, who thinks the government should identify every one of those individuals with an ID.
That is not freedom.
That is fascism.
And she should come nowhere near the levers of power, let alone the White House.
I've got to get to Governor Christie.
Too heavy-handed.
Can you speak?
How are you doing, sir?
Good to see you.
Can you please speak to the requirement that you said that every citizen needs to out themselves?
I would be happy to, and I love all the attention, fellas.
Thank you for that.
You know, I'll say this.
What I said was that social media companies need to show us their algorithms.
I also said there are millions of bots on social media right now.
They're foreign, they're Chinese, they're Iranian.
I will always fight for freedom of speech for Americans.
We do not need freedom of speech for Russians and Iranians and Hamas.
We need social media companies to go and fight back on all of these thoughts that are happening.
That's what I said.
As a mom, do I think that social media would be more civil if we went and had people's names next to that?
Yes, I do think that because I think we've got too much cyberbullying.
I think we've got child pornography
and all of those things. But having said that,
I never said government should go
and require anyone's name. That's false.
She said, I want your name.
She absolutely said these two are agreeing.
They should high five right now.
I said we were going to get the millions
of bots.
That's what she said.
That's what you're saying.
She should play the tape. That'd be she said. You can roll the tape.
She should play the tape.
That'd be cool.
I actually really love the vague Ron Timo.
It's funny.
I want Chris to join in.
Why would you?
Understandably so, because it'd be a massive expansion of government.
We have anonymous speech.
She actually did say it.
I'm just saying.
He's going to bring up a stool and sit down.
They're never going to get to his intro.
Pulls out a donut.
Like Gidoro. Can we make Nikki Haley as America's ex-wife?
Can we make that a thing?
Because it's just like...
That means we've got to get married to her first.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
She's a massive ex-wife.
So I have to say...
Come on.
You're going to give me 15 seconds,
and then there is the former governor.
Because Ron is so hypocritical.
Because he actually went and tried to push a law that would stop anonymous people from talking to the press.
And went so far to say bloggers should have to register with the state if they're going to talk about, write about elected officials.
It was in the, check your newspaper.
That's a gross, gross mischaracterization.
I have never said government should have to trample on your constitutional rights.
You can come back to it later.
This is more dangerous than the Democrats.
You're lying.
I love the vague defending rise.
That was awesome.
Just that piece.
I'm usually not somebody who gets missed, but okay, let's go.
That's not true, 2%.
He's making a comment about his weight.
You endorsed Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020.
You gave him an A for his first term.
Since then, however, you've turned on him.
I ran into him at the airport in person in Newark.
He is a large man.
You even said that you got into this race just to stop
President Trump. Oh, you're big.
His approval rating with Republicans is currently
at 81%.
Yours is at 25.
Your best state is New Hampshire, and even
there, two-thirds of GOP voters
say they would be angry
and disappointed if you won you have not stopped mr trump yeah that was ice cold may wonder how
you could she's got some great questions of a party that does not appear to like you very much
does not appear to like you look megan um it's often very difficult to be the only person on
the stage who's telling the truth and the only person who is taking on what needs to be taken on.
I look at my watch now.
We're 17 minutes into this debate.
I haven't spoken before this.
Except for your little speech in the beginning.
We've had these three acting as if the race is between the four of us.
The fifth guy, who doesn't have the guts to show up and stand.
Oh, there we go.
He's the one who, as you just put it, is way ahead in the polls.
Why does he need to be there?
And yet, I've got these three guys who are all seemingly to compete with, you know, Voldemort.
He shall not be named.
They don't want to talk about it. He just gave him power.
He just helped Trump. You go and you say the truth about somebody who is a dictator, a bully, who has taken shots at everybody.
Whether they've given a great service or not.
Is he seriously saying I'm going to attack the most popular Republican right now and that's going to make me win?
Who I endorsed in 2016.
How is he going to win a primary if Trump's pulling at like 60 to 70 percent and he's trashing the guy?
Maybe those future aspirations are now or maybe they're four years from now. But the fact of the matter
is the truth needs to be told.
And for us to go 17 minutes
without discussing the guy who
has all those gaudy numbers you talked about
is ridiculous.
I'm in this race because the truth
needs to be spoken. He is
unfit. This is a guy
who just said this past week
that he wants to use the Department of Justice
to go after his enemies when he gets in there.
He's dumb.
You're all dumb for liking him.
He is right for calling out the truth,
which is that Trump is ultimately in control of the GOP
in this debate.
I appreciate that.
I just don't think his criticism actually helped him.
No.
He clapped for a minute.
Stop clapping. Who's there?
Do we know somebody who's there?
Where are they currently at?
Nikki and Ron's and Christy's donors.
You don't see either?
They're in Alabama.
I think they're in Huntsville.
I want to text someone down there and be like, can you tell them to stop clapping?
It's not normal people that are there.
American troops and warships in the Middle East are under attack how far would you go as president to secure
the release of those eight american hostages and would it include sending american forces into
combat yes we have to look out for our people when there are hostages commander in chief you have to
do whatever you can to get them done but the overall issue with this is this administration is trying to hobble israel from being able to defend itself
they have a right to eliminate hamas and win a total and complete victory so that they never
have to deal with this again hamas wants nothing less than a second holocaust they would wipe off
every single jew yeah i'd love it would destroy the state of israel someone would just answer
the questions joe biden will say they support israel and then they do nothing but try to would wipe off every single Jew off the map. They would destroy the state of Israel if we could.
Joe Biden will say they support Israel, and then they do nothing but try to kneecap them every
step of the way. You should not try to direct their war effort. You should work together with
them so that they can bring Hamas to heel. Look, I served in Iraq back in the day. I'm the only
one running for president that served in the military. I understand that part of the world. It's not the best part of the world. We do have troops there that Biden is
leaving basically as sitting ducks. And you have the Iranians that are attacking these troops. And
he's responding with basically pinpricks. You harm an American service member, you're going to have
hell to pay when I'm president. We are not going to let our troops be sitting ducks. We also need to look at what's the underlying problem here. Iran. Biden is doing nothing to bring Iran to account.
You got to turn the screws on them. Don't let them have any oil revenue. They send to Hamas,
they send to Hezbollah, and they foment jihad throughout the Middle East. So Biden has empowered
Iran just like he's empowered other adversaries. We stand
with Israel. They're our best ally in the Middle East. We have a unique relationship with them.
And you will see a strong relationship when I'm the president of the United States.
But would you send American troops?
This is the problem with the first three debates. Ron gets asked a question and he doesn't answer it. Your question was very
specific. You said, would you send American troops as commander in chief? And he went on to this
30 second persona about his knowledge of the military and what we need to do and didn't answer
your question. When you're president of the United States, you're not going to have a choice
whether to answer that question or not.
Your generals, your secretary of defense, your secretary of state, your national security advisor are going to present plans to you.
They're going to look at you and say, do we go or don't we, Mr. President?
And you can't give a 90-second speech about your military service, as laudable as it is.
Would you send American troops in to rescue those hostages?
I would absolutely, absolutely.
That's a terrible idea.
If they had a plan which showed me that we could get them out safely, you're damn right I'd send the American people in there.
I'll take a real answer over a non-answer.
Yeah, it conveys more confidence.
Yeah, but he gave a caveat if they had a real plan.
Thank you, Graham.
That would not go well.
It's not a good idea, so we can debate it.
Here, wait.
You have said it was irresponsible for Ambassador Haley to call Hamas's terrorist rampage an attack on America and for her to,
quote, rabidly shout, finish them, end quote.
Rabidly?
The Hamas terror attack left dozens of Americans dead and was the deadliest attack on Jews
since the Holocaust.
Why wouldn't it be a good thing to finish Hamas?
Finish them was purposefully vague in a discussion that included Iran, which is what I
objected to. And I think as U.S. president, you have to be responsible. What happened to Israel
was dead wrong. What Hamas did was medieval. It was subhuman. It was immoral. And we have to call
that out for what it is. Not a strong hand gesture. But to say that that was an attack on America
fails a basic test. I mean, Nick, if you can't tell the difference between where Israel is and the U.S. is on a map,
I can have my three-year-old son show you the difference.
That is irresponsible because it has major consequences.
Also, he's just beating up Haley tonight.
Well, because she's passing on the polls.
So I believe I have the strongest pro-Israel position actually on the stage,
even though it's a little bit different than the standard GOP talking points.
And it is this.
No laughing.
The founding vision of Israel.
David Ben-Gurion, the George Washington figure of Israel. What did he believe?
He believed that we don't want as Israel to depend on the fleeting sympathies of the West and have our hands tied.
I think Israel has an absolute right to defend itself to the fullest without the U.S., the U.N. or the E.U., or anybody else second-guessing their
decisions. As the Biden administration, guess what, is now starting to do? I think that's a
more deeply pro-Israel position than anybody else. And it keeps the actual lines of accountability
clear because it is a pro-American position. And as leader of the United States of America,
just as a father of two sons, my sole moral duty is to my family. As your next president.
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is to you the people of this country that's how i'm going to lead so i'll tell is to you, the people of this country.
That's how I'm going to lead.
So I'll tell Bibi, you smoke the terrorists on your southern border.
You go ahead and we're rooting for you.
We're going to smoke the terrorists on our own southern border.
And that's how I'm going to lead this country.
But Americans were killed in that attack.
Americans were killed in that attack. And so if you looked at this terrorist attack and the number of Americans,
this would be one of the top 10 terrorist attacks in American history.
So our own people were killed in that attack.
And I think it's absolutely appropriate to point that out and to say that we're in this together and we are going to work with Israel so that these people are brought to justice.
I agree with that.
Ambassador Haley, I'm coming to you.
Iran is on the threshold of becoming a nuclear state.
The Wall Street Journal reported that Iranian military leaders gave the green light for Hamas's attack on Israel.
You said in last month's debate that by contrast to the Biden administration's approach to Iran, you would, quote, punch them once and punch them hard.
Were you saying that it's time to bomb Iran? No, I was not saying
it's time to bomb Iran, but I will tell you, I dealt with Iran every day when I was at the United
Nations, and they only respond to strength. What they don't respond to is when you weaken the
sanctions like they did on Iran that allowed China to send them billions to fill their proxies. What
they don't respond to is when you give $6 billion for five hostages. That only makes them want more hostages. What they don't respond to
is when they do 140 strikes on our men and women in Syria and Iraq, and we do nothing but just some
small shots back. You've got to punch them. You've got to punch them hard and let them know that.
That's the only way they're going to respond. So the way you do that is you go after their infrastructure in Syria and Iraq where they're hitting our soldiers.
That's what you do. And then that's when they'll back off. The problem is you have to see that all
of these are related. If you look at the fact, Russia was losing that war with Ukraine. Putin
had hit rock bottom. They had raised the draft age to 65. He was getting drones and missiles,
drones from Iran, missiles from North Korea.
And so what happened?
When he hit rock bottom, all of a sudden, his other friend, Iran, Hamas goes and invades Israel and butchers those people on Putin's birthday.
Oh, please. There is no one happier right now than Putin.
Okay, here we go.
We've got a super chat.
It's from Dustin Trussell. If Chris Christie devoured Nikki Haley live on got, I got a, okay, here we go. We've got, we got a super chat. Okay. Dustin Trussell said,
if Chris Christie devoured Nikki Haley live on stage,
I would vote for him.
That'd be a good cartoon.
Seamus,
you listening?
At this point,
I have to agree because she's just talking so much garbage.
There is a reason,
again,
that Taiwanese want to help Ukrainians because they know if Ukraine wins,
China won't invade Taiwan.
There's a reason the Ukrainians want to help Israelis, because they know that if Iran wins, Russia wins.
These are all connected. But what wins all of that is a strong America, not a weak America.
She's basically like, we have to have war because everybody is bad all the time.
Foreign policy experience is not the same as foreign policy wisdom.
I want everybody in the room to know that I was the first
person to say we need a reasonable peace deal in Ukraine. Now a lot of the neocons are quietly
coming along to that position with the exceptions of Nikki Haley and Joe Biden who still support
this, what I believe is pointless war in Ukraine. And I think those with foreign policy experience,
one thing that Joe Biden and Nikki Haley have in common is that neither of them could even state for you three provinces in eastern ukraine that they want to send
look at that this is what i want people to understand these people have i mean she has no
idea Got him, coach. No, she can't even name. They're called Oblasts, by the way.
Thank you.
Makes eight million bucks after.
Has real foreign policy experience.
It takes an outsider to see this through.
Look at the blank expression.
She doesn't make any sense.
Literally eating her life.
That was nuts.
Enough.
Enough.
Chris Christie's moderating.
Thank you.
You know, his reasonable peace deal in Ukraine, he made it clear.
Give them all the land they've already stolen.
Promise Putin you'll never put Ukraine in Russia.
And then trust Putin not to have a relationship with China.
Let me tell you something.
That's not my deal.
Yes, it's exactly what you said
every debate
You okay you say
You go out on the stump and you say something all of us see it on video
We confront you on the debate stage you say you didn't say it, and then you back away. And I want to say what? I'm not done yet.
That's actually Chris' idea.
I think Chris misspoke when he said
put Ukraine in Russia.
The fourth debate that you were voting
in the first 20 minutes as the most
obnoxious blowhard in America.
So shut up for a little while.
I'm going to respond to that.
Chris, you're pushing it.
We're going to let you respond to that. I'm going to respond to that. Chris, you're version of me.
We're going to let you respond to that.
We're going to let you respond to that.
I'm going to say something else.
We're now 25 minutes into this debate,
and he has insulted Nikki Haley's basic intelligence.
Not her positions, her basic intelligence.
No, she doesn't know regions.
She wouldn't be able to find
that his three-year-old
information, not intelligence,
is very fine. And Nikki and I
disagree on some issues. But I'll tell you
this, I've known her for 12 years,
which is longer than he's even
started to vote in a Republican primary.
That's not a debate.
I can't stay in the audience.
They're all donors, bro. They're all donors, bro.
They're Republican donors, man.
We don't disagree on this.
This is a smart, accomplished woman.
You should stop insulting her.
So I'm going to take this.
I'm going to take several times over.
White-nighting for Nikki.
No longer watching Chris go.
We learned three things right there.
First of all, Chris Christie also doesn't know what provinces in eastern Ukraine he actually wants us to fight for.
He has a foreign policy experience.
Ron is laughing at that.
He was closing a bridge from New Jersey to New York.
So do everybody a favor.
Just walk yourself off that stage.
Enjoy a nice meal.
And get the hell out of this race.
Whoa!
I think if you're going to actually send your sons and daughters to go die in somebody
else's war, you better, excuse me, Chris, I'm speaking and I'm not done yet. You had your
chance and we're going to be done. So listen up to this. If these people want to send your sons
and daughters to go die in Ukraine, they've been arguing for it for a year. $200 billion of our
taxpayer money sent over. Neither of them could even name for you the
provinces that they actually want to protect and this is the people who have been touting their
so-called foreign policy experience it is intellectual fraud these people are lying to
you the same people who told you about weapons and mass destruction in iraq to justify that
invasion didn't know the first thing about it yet they sent thousands of our sons and stop stop he's already dead
holy shit other points seven trillion of our national debt due to these toxic
metal primary saying but there is a moment still a fascist Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. Dick Cheney all over again in this one. Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. 15 seconds. He's pouring gas on the stage, dude.
Wow.
Name the provinces.
Neither of you could even imagine.
Mr. Ramaswamy.
Thank you.
He got him with that one, dude.
Let me just say this.
It's not Crimea.
That's not the one they're talking about.
All right.
The floor is Christie's.
All right.
Let me just say this.
You know, this is the kind of thing where he talks about experience.
You know, I was the U.S. attorney in New Jersey when the terrorist attacks were launched against the United States in 2001.
I brought the two, first two cases in this country against terrorists who tried to attack us again.
And I know about the threat of terrorism and bullying. Remember 9-11 argument doesn't work when you have a large voter base, younger voters, who were not, who were little children or not even alive.
I was 20.
I was a Marine, an active duty guy, but like I was 20, dude.
I was a kid.
But even like, but you remember it.
I was 14.
But there are actual voters right now.
We're even alive. We were born after.
Yeah.
He's insulted good people who have committed their lives to public service
and not say anything that moves the ball down the field for the United States.
All right. Thank you, Governor Christie.
I hate the term public service.
Sorry, if you're an elected official, you're not a public servant.
She said Crimea.
And that's funny because...
Crimea's been in Russia for a long time.
That's not what's in contention right now.
Right, right, right.
And so Vivek, I think he absolutely nailed them with that question.
Which provinces do you actually want to defend?
Well, they're called Oblasts.
They're administrative regions.
And they're basically just named after their cities.
But everyone knows Donetsk and Luhansk.
Those are the principal in the Donbass region.
And then I guess the argument
would be Kharkiv and Kiev, which is where
Russian forces attacked
through Belarus. Crimea, they
want to liberate, not defend,
but I don't want to be too pedantic.
Nikki Haley, I don't know how she
got those answers. Someone rushed, you know, did she
check her phone, look down and be like,
because you see the look on her face when he asks.
She is waiting for the moderators to be like and now you speak and
that's not the game vivek is playing that's not the game to a certain extent desantis is playing
like he said it she didn't even realize the camera is on her so she's staring blankly yeah because
she's listening to someone who's standing over there maybe she doesn't know the regions maybe
she doesn't but it was perfectly teed up by ramaswami she was not quick enough to respond
i think the fact that she said Crimea shows
she doesn't know what she's talking about.
She doesn't.
And it took her like five minutes to get to it, right?
She could have said it immediately.
Instead, she was flustered by being called out like that.
Crimea's been for a decade under the control of Russia.
And in Sevastopol, the Russians have already been there
well before that with their naval base.
So maybe you can argue she didn't understand
what exactly he meant and she was interpreting us but i'm not playing that game
yeah she immediately called her out and if it were me i'd be like it look first of all i don't
actually care that much about ukraine my my whole position is more along with the wake of we should
not be uh sending troops over there and and fortifying this but immediately i was like wait
i'm like uh donetsk and Luhansk.
Like that's the news.
Yeah.
I can name those two right now.
Now.
And then as you can be present to Tim.
Yeah.
The one thing I'm not sure of is I know those are the names of the regions, but I fact checked
they're basically the names of the cities.
So Kharkiv, Kiev, those are also the names of the Belgorod, Dnipro.
I'm reading them off a map.
Zaporizhia, et cetera.
Crimea.
Well, the funny thing is, if you think about it right so it's like you know we pull out of afghanistan in the most horrible
way surrender yeah i you know like my buddy who came with me here who's you know downstairs right
now like he was up like got no sleep for weeks uh trying to get guys out right a lot of guys did
right trying to get guys out of there it was lot of guys did, right? Trying to get guys out of there. It was a total disaster.
And then six months later,
you know, all the, you know, the military-industrial complex, right?
They needed new business, you know?
So it's like business development.
Like, what do you know, right?
Six months later, we got a new war,
more money, all that.
You know, like, I'm not trying to sound
too conspiratorial, but, you know,
it looks that way.
Yeah, well, they split up the Soviet Union
and they gave all that land to the Ukraine.
Those oligarchs
must have known
it was going to cause contention
with Russia down the line
not having access
to the Black Sea.
Ian, we don't call it
the Ukraine.
We call it Ukraine.
It is borderland.
Yeah, you're absolutely true.
I'm no Eastern European
Russian expert.
Oh, good on ya.
Right.
It's like all of a sudden
everyone has to say Kiev
now instead of Kiev.
You know, like, come on. We spelled Zelensky's name like
three different ways. Zelensky.
How many Ys? Fewer Ys? Maybe more Ys?
Seven Ys. I think it is worth noting
that ultimately Christie was
right that it's about Trump
more than anything else. Of course.
And it is interesting to watch
the fighting. Like, I think Vivek is performing
well. You know, there's been interesting
moments, but ultimately been interesting moments,
but ultimately the question remains,
how will anyone stand up if they were to debate Trump?
They won't.
It shows the two legitimate candidates is DeSantis and Ramaswamy.
And then the other two are like war hawks
that are just kind of on the trail,
but just big money.
Yeah, 100%.
And that's like, that's absolutely it.
And honestly, like I was saying earlier,
is like on that stage, on that stage, like, that's absolutely it. And honestly, like I was saying earlier, is like on that stage, on that stage,
like Vivek's the guy.
He's the guy, absolutely, for like normal folks.
I think he has the charisma.
I mean, I think there are questions
about his policies in some respects,
but I think he always has been
the most charismatic person
in all of these debate performances.
Again, he does have the occasional thing,
you know, he said something like,
I have a longer future than Donald Trump. He has he has sparred with Donald Trump very indirectly.
Sure. And again, I wonder what that would look like if they were up against each other.
It's more anecdotal, but he's he's humble in the sense that he was willing to come in and do this
interview when Tim was out of town. Yeah. And so I interviewed Hannah Clare interviewed with
Seamus Coughlin. And hold on. It's worse than that. We had a miscommunication here about who was contacting his team
to let him know that I was at a doctor's appointment,
not going to be in town.
And so they found out really late, and Vivek was super cool.
He's like, no, don't worry about it.
I get it, man.
These things happen.
Indication to me, he will listen to his advisors.
Like, that's a huge, important thing for a leader.
Absolutely.
But also the fact that, like, he'll go talk anywhere.
He'll go, like, I mean, obviously, this is a huge show. Here we go, we're back. Huge show, but also the fact that he'll go talk anywhere. He'll go, I mean, obviously
this is a huge show. Here we go, we're back.
But it's like, he goes on all the podcasts.
It's great. Nikki does not.
Polls show immigration and the crisis
are among the most pressing issues
for Republican voters right now.
Both the issue of migrants crossing illegally
into our country
and the separate issue of fentanyl
being smuggled in, mostly through
legal ports of entry.
All year, NewsNation has been at the border documenting the crisis.
In 2023 alone, Border Patrol encountered a record 2.4 million migrants.
All four of you have talked tough.
The question now is, how realistic is the talk?
So, Governor DeSantis, I'd like to start with you.
You have pledged to send the military to the southern border on day one of your administration
with orders to shoot, quote, stone-cold dead.
He does, dude.
Anyone illegally entering with a backpack that you believe contains fentanyl.
Critics have called this a shoot-first-ask-questions- questions later policy that would amount to extra judicial killing.
You are a former military lawyer.
Why do you think this idea of yours would be legal?
The drug cartels are invading our country and they are killing our citizens by the tens of thousands every year.
We had a situation in Florida.
There was an 18-month-old baby that was crawling on the floor of an Airbnb rental.
There was fentanyl residue on the carpet, and the baby died.
Is this acceptable in this country?
I know the elites in D.C.
They don't care.
They don't care that fentanyl is ravaging your community.
They don't care that illegal aliens are ravaging our community and overwhelming our community.
The commander-in-chief not only has a right.
You have a responsibility to fight back against these people. And does that mean shooting first? our community and overwhelming our community, the commander-in-chief not only has a right,
you have a responsibility to fight back against these people.
And does that mean shooting first?
It means you're going to categorize them as foreign terrorist organizations, and we will identify just like we would anywhere.
When I was in Iraq, the Al-Qaeda wasn't wearing a uniform.
You'd see anyone walking down the street. They all had man dresses on.
You didn't know if someone had a bomb, an IED attached or not.
And so you had to make a judgment based on intelligence, based on positive identification.
But we're going to be able to get the intelligence on these cartel people.
And here's the thing.
If we had a wall across the southern border, which I support, this would not have happened.
We need to build a wall across the southern border.
I'll get it done and I'll make for Mexico is supposed to pay for it. Remember, here's how
you do that. I am going to have fees on remittances from foreign workers when they send the money back
to foreign countries. We're going to tax it and we're going to build a wall with that. So yes,
you should have had that, but we don't have it. I'm going to build it, but we have to lean in on
this problem. I am not going to sit there and allow mothers to lose more kids because of fentanyl overdose
I am NOT gonna sit there and let sex trafficking go unabated or human trafficking go unabated
There's gonna be a new sheriff in town and these drug cartels
You have pledged to catch and deport all migrants who are here in this country illegally.
Abort?
Did she say abort?
Then you said in Londonderry, New Hampshire last month that you will not deport those who are working and paying taxes rather than feeding off the system.
She knows, too.
Which is it?
So, first of all, what I said is all of the 7 or 8 million illegals that have come under Biden's watch absolutely have to go back.
We have to stop the incentive of what's bringing them over here in the first place.
Biden just gave temporary protective status to 500,000 Venezuelans.
That's a half a million Social Security cards.
That's a half a million driver's licenses.
And I know from my time at the United Nations, the first thing they do is pick up the phone and said, we came over, come on over. And that's what
sends more. You have to go and deport these people so they know it can't happen again.
For those that have been here longer than that, we've got to start seeing who is it,
how long have they been here? Have they been vetted? Have they paid taxes? Have they been
working? And figure out who else is out there.
But what I know is my parents came here illegally. They put in the time, they put in the price.
They are offended by those that are coming illegally. We can't let them skip the line.
But when you talk about fentanyl like you did before, let's look at something else. Yes,
I think we should send special operations over and take out the cartels. I think we should do a Remain in Mexico policy so they never step foot in U.S. soil in the first place. But
look at where fentanyl came from. Let's go to the heart of the matter. It came from China.
That's why we need to end all normal trade relations with China until they stop murdering
Americans with fentanyl. I promise you, they need our economy. They will immediately stop
that. But this is where Trump went wrong. Trump was good on trade, but that's all he was with China.
Because here he allowed fentanyl to continue to come over. He continued to allow them to take,
he would give them technology that would build up their military and hurt us.
He allowed the Chinese infiltration for them to buy up farmland, to put money in our universities,
and to continue to do things that were harmful
for America. We now have a spy base in
Cuba and police stations, and Trump
didn't do anything about it.
This is rich, because when she was
governor of South Carolina, she was the
number one ranked governor of
bringing the CCP into her state.
She wrote a love letter to the Chinese
ambassador saying how great
a friend China is. You can look at it. We put it on our website, rondesantis.com. There's also a
video of her as governor standing in front of a Chinese flag with a Chinese business saying that
she now works for them, talking about this Chinese company. So she's been very weak on China. Now,
here's the problem. The rhetoric is different but her donors
these Wall Street liberal donors
they make money in China
they are not going to let her be tough on China
and she will cave to the donors
she will not stand up for you
not wrong
I think Ron's actually doing really well
first of all he's mad because
those Wall Street donors used to support him
and now they support me
the second thing is you almost said that First of all, he's mad because those Wall Street donors used to support him and now they support me.
The second thing is, you almost said that a Chinese company, Ugas, that he just did a rally there last year.
They have given you $340,000 in campaign donations between them and their employees.
They are tied to the Communist Party.
Jinko Solar is another one.
They went and expanded.
You gave $2 million in subsidies.
I banned China from buying land in the state of Florida. I ejected
the Confucius Institute.
Nikki Haley brought Confucius Institutes
to the universities in South Carolina.
That is not true. I ejected them.
So I have a record of standing up and doing what's right.
And here's the thing. You have a record of lying.
She's trying to say things like that.
Even the liberal media groups that, usually if I say the sky is blue, they'll fact check me and say that's wrong.
They look at the charges.
They said it was totally false that they could not find one instance of me recruiting a Chinese business coming to Florida.
You know why?
Because we never recruited any Chinese businesses to the state of Florida.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Mr. Ramaswamy, over the past year, fentanyl has killed more than 75,000
Americans, 1,000 of them right here in Alabama. You have vowed to use the military to, quote,
annihilate drug labs inside Mexico, something the president of Mexico said would be a hostile act.
But fentanyl can easily be made anywhere, and labs that are shut down can easily and quickly be replaced. Are your tough
enforcement policies offering false hope to a country wracked by addiction? To the contrary,
I don't think it's going to have to come to that if we deal with the actual demand side problem
that we also have in this country. I mean, the easy part is talking about how we're going to
use our military to secure the border. I will, and I believe that everybody else wants to do the same thing. But the harder part is dealing with the crisis of
purpose and meaning, the mental health epidemic raging across this country like wildfire.
And there's a reason why after the opioid crisis, you see fentanyl. And even after we get fentanyl,
and we are going to be sure to make sure we do it, this one is worse for many reasons. They're
illegally lacing it into pharmaceuticals. So it's more dangerous.
But we're deluding ourselves.
The real false promise here is thinking that we're going to have dealt with that
underlying mental health epidemic in this country by just dealing with the demand side of it.
But I want to get back to this issue of the root cause,
because a lot of these are coming from labs in Wuhan, China, of all places,
drug materials that are going to the Mexican drug cartels
that they're pumping across that southern border like a modern opium war.
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I think it is going to take a U.S. president that's going to have a very different conversation
with Xi Jinping than what Joe Biden just had in California.
I will tell Xi Jinping, you will not only not buy land in this country or donate to universities in this country.
U.S. businesses won't expand into the Chinese market until they're playing by the same set of rules.
And the same country
that's putting fentanyl into illegal pharmaceuticals in Mexico, it's no coincidence,
is the exact same country that also unleashed hell on the world with the COVID-19 pandemic.
We also have to hold them accountable with every financial lever that we have available.
Thank you.
That is what it actually means to stand with a spine. And you mark my words,
if we're willing to stand with the spine, China will absolutely have to fold because they're in a tougher spot than we are.
And then we're back to playing by the same set of rules.
Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy.
Thank you.
Let's talk about the economy.
Ambassador Haley.
Chris Christie is just not here.
Home ownership has always been part of the American dream, but it's increasingly out of reach for younger Americans.
This year,
mortgage rates reached 30-year highs. Home prices have risen $190,000 over the past decade.
Is this a free market at work? Or should the federal government do something to make homes
more affordable? Well, first of all, you're exactly right. My daughter just got married,
and I saw how hard it was for her and her husband to buy a home. Right now, the average homeowner in America is 49 years old. You've got young people everywhere. that money to go through. You saw the Treasury bond rates go up. That affected mortgage rates. That affected automobile
rates. That affected insurance rates. And so now we have a high interest rate. You've got a supply
issue. Ask any builder. The supply issues have continued to be there. That's caused the rate to
go up. And then you've got insurances that have gone up. And so what you have is a lot of younger people who, one, can't afford a home, but two, the banks aren't lending them any money.
They've made the regulations so hard that they don't want to give loans on mortgages anymore.
So what we have to do is we have to open it up. We have to, one, grow our economy so that people
have more money in their pockets. We've got to look at the supply chain and make sure that we are funneling that so that builders don't have to sit there and go overseas
to find things. And then we need to make sure that we really stop paying down this debt, make sure
that we stop the borrowing, stop the spending. I'll veto any spending bill that doesn't take us
back to pre-COVID levels because our kids are not going to forgive us for all the spending that
happened. And as much as everybody wants to talk about how Donald Trump had a good economy, $9 trillion in debt, he did just in four years.
And we're all paying the price of that, including those mortgage prices.
Yeah, but a lot of that was COVID.
We're going to come back to President Trump.
A lot of spending there.
Governor DeSantis, the latest News Nation decision desk poll found that inflation tops the worries of American voters.
61% say they're very concerned and the working class is hard as shit.
Economists say this is a glut of federal spending.
The Biden administration has added $6 trillion to the national debt so far.
But President Trump wasn't exactly a penny pincher.
His administration added $7.8 trillion.
Do Republicans, including President Trump,
share the blame for inflation?
And what concrete steps would a President DeSantis take
to help Americans make ends meet?
But it's not shared equally.
The borrowing, printing, and spending of money
was both parties in Washington, D.C.
That's just a fact.
These Republicans in Washington have spent. It's driven your prices higher and it's driven your interest rates to
the point where you can't afford. I met a young fellow in Iowa. He had graduated college a couple
years ago and he's like, Governor, I don't have a chance. I'm gainfully employed. He's like,
I have no chance to afford a home and start a family. That is taking the American dream away
from people. So we're going to get the inflation down. We're going to get the interest rates down.
We are going to reduce spending and I will be willing to veto. And I vetoed a lot as governor
of Florida and we'll do that. We're also going to open up all of our domestic energy for production,
lower your gas prices, lower the price of fuel. That's going to help the economy. It also helped
jobs and we'll do it. But you know, another thing that's burdening young people are the student loans. Now I don't support having a truck driver, having to pay a student
loan for someone that got a degree in gender studies. That is wrong. You should not have
taxpayers do that. What I'm going to do though, is I'm going to get to the root cause of the
problem. These student loans are going to be backed by the universities because they need to
have an incentive to produce gainful and seize the endowments.
They should not be indulging in ideological studies. They should be focusing on things that
work. And we're going to take some of this money and we're going to move it to actual vocational
training. In Florida, we doubled apprenticeships. We have more truck drivers. These are in-demand
skills. Don't let anybody tell you that the only way you can be successful is through a four-year
brick and ivy degree. That's one way you can be. It's not the only way, and we're going to fix that
problem in the United States of America. Mr. Ramaswamy, you praise cryptocurrency like Bitcoin
as an opt-out from our, quote, broken financial architecture, and you oppose efforts to regulate
it. Wait for Christie's break-in to be like, hey guys, I'm still here. architecture, and you oppose efforts to regulate it. Wait for Chris to just
break in and be like, hey guys, I'm still here.
No, he's just going to leave something.
Yeah, it'd be great. He's like, it cuts back and he's gone.
He'll remind us of the time.
You say your cryptocurrency
plan will, quote, ensure economic
freedom for Americans, end quote.
Won't it also ensure
economic freedom for fraudsters,
criminals, and terrorists?
I did not know. I did not know. Good question.
Fraudsters, criminals, and terrorists have been defrauding people for a long time.
Our regulations need to catch up with the current moment.
The fact that SBF was able to do what he did at FTX shows that whatever they have as the current framework isn't working.
And I think it is nothing short of embarrassing that Gary Gensler, the current leader of the SEC, in front of Congress, could not even say whether Ethereum counted as a regulated security or not.
And so I think that this is just another example of the administrative state gone too far.
Here's the dirty little secret in American politics today.
The people who we elect to run the government are not the ones who are even actually.
What are they not doing? Tell me.
They're writing regulations that Congress never gave them the authority to write. And the good
news is a U.S. president can absolutely fix that. That takes a U.S. president with a spine.
So what I've said is in my administration, by the end of year one, we will have a 75% reduction in the number of federal bureaucrats.
We will shut down government agencies that should not exist.
I am okay with this.
We will rescind any regulation that fails the test of West Virginia versus EPA, which is the most important Supreme Court case of our lifetime.
That said, if Congress didn't delegate that to an administrative agency, then it's unconstitutional.
These are seismic changes. I don't know much about that. I'd like to learn more about that.
These are big changes that the next president can deliver without asking Congress for permission
or for forgiveness. And I want people to understand that distinction because people
have been sold myths by politicians for a long time saying, I'm going to work with Congress to
do this or that. Much of what you've heard on the stage from the other politicians fit that description, they need Congress.
The things that I'm promising you, this is what the leader of the executive branch gets to do under Article 2 of the Constitution.
Thank you, sir.
Cut down the bureaucracy.
Cutting the federal government like that is tumultuous and difficult.
No, no, no.
Mr. Omoswami, you're out of time.
It'll be painful.
One of the dangers that we're going to face him. It'll be painful, but it needs to happen.
One of the dangers that we're going to face, Biden wants, is a central bank digital currency.
They want to get rid of cash, crypto.
They want to force you to do that.
They'll take away your privacy.
They will absolutely regulate your purchases.
On day one as president, we take the idea of central bank digital currency, and we throw it in the trash can.
It'll be dead on arrival.
I want to know if anybody is live timing how much time they're getting. We're going to have a whole second hour to get to it in the trash can. It'll be dead on a rock. I don't know if anybody is live timing
how much time they're getting.
We have a whole second hour to get to. It's exciting.
And when we come back, we've got a big subject.
Ron's best debate so far,
to be honest. He's a little nerdy.
He's a little nerdy.
And what I mean by that is
good facts, but not being
presented really well. I'm talking
high school level. It's the charisma thing, but I think he's doing pretty well and uh vivek of course is
always uh doing really you were right that he was a little too nerdy when he started talking about
ethereum uh and that gary gensler couldn't identify if it was a security or not sure basically means
is it is it going to be used as cash or is it going to be used as a commodity right the word
commodity is a little nerdy sure for your average let nerdy for your average. We'll grab some super chats during the commercials.
We got MF Damien says, Ron makes some decent points, but sounds too rehearsed and inauthentic
when he speaks.
King Vivek all day.
Yeah.
Concur.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like Ron's actually doing really well.
Yeah.
But he's got the head bob going on.
He needs a smile once in a while.
But like a real smile not the whole like
the gavin newsom smiling is like too weird i don't know yeah he got called out because his
smiles are inauthentic i won't let you down yeah no he looks sad when he's and also you you made a
great point there when you're talking about like the the gavin newsom bring that up like look you
know when everyone says oh gavin newsomom, I think Terry was here last night
to say like,
oh, I'm not that worried
about Gavin Newsom.
Like, I'm worried as hell
about Gavin Newsom.
This is a good one right here
from Nick Williams.
Yeah, please.
Vivek missed an opportunity
to highlight that Haley
isn't stupid.
She just doesn't care
about Ukraine.
The only thing Nikki
is worried about
is Lockheed and Raytheon's
stock price.
Yeah, he didn't insult
her intelligence
like Chris Christie said.
He pointed out that she didn't
have the information. She was ignorant tomorrow the headline's
gonna be chris christie defends nikki haley from vivek who becomes too aggressive on stage attacks
women right right right and so in some ways like the fact that he left it ambiguous and didn't
correct it at all i mean he was on a roll he had good energy in that moment so there's a reason
but it will give chris christie this moment and it also makes nikki haley look like a submissive woman which will turn feminists off from her if there's any you know vivek staff
members listening i hope they hear this technically i hope they don't but just you gotta say nikki
hillary over here i'm sorry i mean haley no he did have that hillary clinton comparison no but
call her nikki hillary yeah excuse me yeah like and like fake you know they're like texting him right now yeah yeah nikki hillary no but when he compared her to hillary cl Yeah, that's true. Excuse me, yeah, and like fake, you know, correct himself. They're like texting him right now.
Yeah, yeah.
Nikki Hillary.
No, but when he compared her
to Hillary Clinton,
like that's a very serious indictment,
right?
Women in politics,
either side,
being compared to Hillary Clinton
is not a good thing, right?
Because if you're a Democrat,
she failed repeatedly.
And if you're a Republican,
it's Hillary Clinton.
Yeah, but look,
Hillary Clinton could be running
on the give you a million dollars party and people
would still hate her. It doesn't matter
if you're Republican or Democrat
policy-wise, she is an awful human
that people despise. America's ex-wife.
Yeah, actually, yeah.
When Nikki Haley came
out and said that she wanted to track people that use
social media and get their identification and make
everyone, that I think
indicates low intelligence. That I can argue is a low intelligence claim because she hasn't thought
ahead into what kind of corruption or the very least authoritarian let me let me grab this one
from that one gamer he says i was born in november 2002 and people my age were signing up to fight in
this war that has been around longer than myself we're not doing that again. Politicians can suck it. Thank you. I hear you, brother.
21 years old.
Yeah.
You're 21.
So you voted
in several election cycles already
and you were born after.
But let's even talk about
someone born in 1997.
Okay.
You're four or five years old.
You don't remember any of this.
So when Chris Christie's like,
I was the attorney general
during 9-11.
It's like, yo.
That doesn't mean anything.
It might mean something
to people who are in their like mid-30s and up.
Sure, maybe.
But to everybody else, they're like, I don't care.
I think I was in kindergarten, and I grew up in Connecticut, right?
So I had friends whose parents commuted into New York.
I remember not going to school that day the towers fell, but all of it is stuff that I
grew up hearing, but it's not.
It was news I had to learn as I got older.
People who have teenagers, right, who are coming up military age, it's like, for age. Do you want them to go?
My little brother
is still active duty.
I got a lot of friends. I got a friend here who's active duty.
I know a lot of folks who are younger than me.
I don't really want you to go there.
The fall of the Berlin Wall.
That's how I would think about it.
89. I was three.
I was three years old.
Actually, I was about to turn four. I was three. I was three years old. Actually, I was about to turn
four, and I
only have vague memories of references
to it. I'm three.
I don't remember anything at all other than
people mentioning it as I was
a kid that it happened.
Can I say something as well?
What Vivek said, he talks about cutting
75% of the federal
government. It's something
that a lot of people, especially people who
live in the Beltway, it's like
balkers. Like, oh my God, you can't do it.
It's terrible. It's crazy. Here we go. But I got to say
it'll be painful.
It'll be tumultuous, but if it happens,
we'll get through it.
Yeah, definitely.
Second hour.
They got to talk about GDP.
Two hours of this crap? Holy crap. time on the front runner in the second hour they got to talk about gdp holy crap ask you a couple questions about him now i think she's wearing a great color i just
have to say she looks great former president trump recently promised if he's re-elected
to bring back and expand his program restricting immigration from muslim countries did trump
actually say muslim countries on october 16th, let's listen. No longer will we allow dangerous lunatics, haters, bigots and maniacs to get residency in our country.
We're not going to let them stay here.
If you empathize with radical Islamic terrorists and extremists, you're disqualified.
You're just disqualified.
He didn't say Muslims.
Mr. Haley, do you support President Trump's plan for ideological screening?
Oh, come on. I don't think that you have a straight-up Muslim ban as much as you look at the countries that have terrorist activity that want to kill Americans.
Oh, come on.
They're going to email Megyn Kelly and be like, what was that?
That's the way we should look at it, is which countries are a threat to us.
You look at what came across the southern border.
What worries me the most are those that came from Iran, from Yemen, from Lebanon.
Those areas where they say death to America.
That's what you want to be.
Yes.
Let me just.
OK.
OK, sure.
Trump should ban terrorists.
If someone is coming to this country and we find out that they support terrorist and radical ideologies, you're disqualified.
Not a big ask.
It's not crazy.
And the false framing by Megyn Kelly and now Nikki Haley is reprehensible.
Right.
And the biggest threat we have right now is communist China.
But you have to also look at what Iran and Russia are doing as well.
And we need to be paying attention to that.
That's why we have to focus on things like cyber, on space, on artificial intelligence,
and not just the regular things that we've always focused on.
It's not just terrorism, though. That's important. But look what's happened in
Europe. You have more antisemitism in Germany than at any time since Adolf Hitler. Why? Because
they imported mass numbers of people who reject their culture. Europe is committing suicide with
the mass migration and it's illegal and legal.
Nikki Haley said the other day there should be no limits on legal immigration and that
corporate CEOs should set the policy on that. There needs to be limits on immigration and
we should not be importing people from cultures that are hostile. So for example, I said with
the Gaza, you had some of the squad wanted to import 300,000 people from the Gaza Strip. I said no, we're not taking
anyone from Gaza because of the anti-Semitism and because they reject American culture.
So we've got to get smart about this. We cannot let the United States be like Europe.
Governor Christie.
If I may just hit this point, because it relates to what they just said. There are things that the government can do right now that nobody's talking about among the professional politicians in this race.
I don't think he's got any questions.
I think he's got like one or two questions for an hour.
Here's the answer.
He should elbow his way in if he were serious.
That is a provision that already allows ICE agents to deputize or allow local law enforcement to enforce those ICE
awards. And it shocks me that nobody in the Republican Party is talking about it because
there are one million then officials, law enforcement officials in this country. And
against that backdrop, we absolutely have the ability to deport anybody who's in this
country illegally. We need to be talking about it.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Thank you. Governor Christie actually did that as governor
in South Carolina. Governor Christie
asked last night in Iowa whether he would be
a dictator if he wins a second
term in office. Donald Trump
quipped, no, quote, except for
day one, promising to
seal the southern border. He
has also pledged to begin the largest
deportation operation in
American history, saying that migrants are, quote, poisoning the blood of our country. No, illegal immigrants are. He has pledged to begin the largest deportation operation in American history, saying that migrants
are, quote, poisoning the blood of our country.
No, illegal immigrants are.
He has pledged to round up and expel an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the
United States.
What do you make of that plan?
I think it's completely predictable.
I mean, look, he's made it very clear.
There's no mystery to what he wants to do.
He started off his campaign by saying, I am your retribution. I mean, look, he's made it very clear. There's no mystery to what he wants to do.
He started off his campaign by saying, I am your retribution.
Eight years ago, he said, I am your voice.
I think he doesn't get that Americans like Trump.
He hasn't understood the poll margin.
He now wants to be back as president. He's winning the primary.
He's acting retribution on anyone who has disagreed with him.
Anyone.
Chris Christie's a Democrat.
He's on stage being like, I represent non-Republicans.
These policies that he's talking about are about...
Will Chamberlain just tweeted a minute ago.
At the first debate, my three colleagues on this stage,
when asked if he would be convicted of federal felonies,
would they still support him?
Raise their hand, look into the camera and let everybody know that they would still support him, even if convicted of federal felonies. With the majority of Americans also want.
Our election process, federal felonies which involve the most sensitive of our governmental secrets.
Federal felonies where he instructed
others to commit crimes, folks who are now agreeing to go to jail because of what they
did in his name. So do I think he was kidding when he said he was a dictator? All you have to do is
look at the history. And that's why failing to speak out against him, making excuses for him, pretending that somehow he's a victim,
empowers him. You want to know why those poll numbers aren't where they are?
Because folks like these three guys on the stage make it seem like his conduct is acceptable.
Let me make it clear. Does he not get that the majority of Republican voters like Trump?
What's he trying to make clear? His conduct is unacceptable.
He's unfit.
And be careful of what you're going to get.
If you ever got another
Donald Trump term,
he's letting you know,
I am your retribution.
That's a good thing.
Thank you.
He will only be his own retribution.
He doesn't care for the American.
I don't care either.
Okay, a Monmouth.
I want Trump to get his retribution.
58%.
Governor DeSantis. And then after him, DeSantis is a get his retribution. Governor DeSantis.
And then after him is DeSantis.
Thank you.
Governor DeSantis, Donald Trump would be older on day one of his second presidency than Joe Biden was on day one of his first.
Wow.
Joe Biden would be 100.
Fair point.
You have said Trump is not the same man he was when he ran in 2016.
Your campaign is running ads showing Trump confused.
And you have said he has, quote, lost the zip on his fastball.
You seem to be saying Donald Trump is no longer mentally fit to be president.
Is that what you think?
Look, he is showing father time is undefeated.
The idea that we're going to put someone up there that's almost 80 and there's going to be no effects from that, we all know that that's not true.
And so we have an opportunity to do
a next generation of leaders and really be able to move this country forward. We also need a
president that can serve two terms. I don't think Donald Trump, I think he's going to have, I don't
think he can be able to get elected. The Democrats want him to be the nominee. We see that. They are
going to turn the screws the minute if he got the nomination, you're going to see it. I think we
need to have somebody younger. I think when you get up to 80, I don't think it's a job for that. But let me just respond to some of the things
there. Look, the media is making a big deal about what he said about some of these comments. I would
just remind people that is not how he governed. He didn't even fire Dr. Fauci. He didn't fire
Christopher Wray. He didn't clean up the swamp. He said he was going to drain it. He did not drain
it. He said he was going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it. We don't have the wall. He did say in 2016 he'd have the largest deportation program in history.
He deported less than Barack Obama did when Barack Obama was president. So some of these
policies he ran on in 16, I was cheering him on then, but he didn't deliver it. Here's what I can
promise people. 100% of the things I promised as governor, I delivered on those promises. I beat the left time and time again. And that's
what I'll do for the president. We got to start winning again as a party. Yes, win the election,
but we've got to start getting these issues. I will go in and wreak havoc on this bureaucracy.
You will see people fired and we are going to bring a reckoning for how this government why doesn't he just answer the question the question was very direct
is he fit to be president or isn't he the rest of the speech is interesting
but chris is a democrat up there to destroy speech is interesting, but completely non-responsive. And if we were in a courtroom, he'd strike the answer and say,
go to DeSantis.
He's just auditioning to moderate the next
debate. No, they would.
They would strike the answer because you're not answering it.
You just don't like...
You have your thing.
Is he fit or isn't he?
No, I don't have my thing. He's the thing.
Is he fit or isn't he?
You're talking about him being 80 years old.
It doesn't mean that somebody couldn't get elected. That's the people that are lying. the thing. Is he fit or isn't he? You're talking about him being 80 years old. Ron, is he
fit?
Ron?
They zoomed in on Ron's face.
Did you see that? It was intensifying.
Guys, guys, guys.
The party likes
Donald Trump.
Thank you for lowering the volume.
The party likes Donald Trump. Donald Trump is winning and Chris Christie
is attacking Donald Trump on stage.
Where Ron DeSantis is even
trying to avoid going too heavy.
I don't know how he would score on a test, but I know this.
We have an opportunity to nominate
someone and elect someone for two terms
who's going to be spinning nails on day
one and for eight years deliver you
big results. Chris Christie is
running for a cabinet position under a Democrat.
Who's almost 80 years old.
He's afraid to answer.
No, I'm not.
Either you're afraid or you're not listening.
All you've got to say is,
you don't question it.
Is he fit?
Nobody can hear this.
I can hear you.
Girls, girls.
Ladies, please.
I'm a simple guy.
I'd be like, hey, Lardo.
Calm down.
Is he fit or isn't he?
I can see you're fit, Ron.
You're a new generation.
You're 44 years old.
I wish I was still 44 years old.
45.
Well, congratulations.
I'd still take 45.
Is he fit or isn't he?
And this is the problem with my three colleagues. They're afraid
to offend. If you're afraid to offend Donald Trump, then what are you going to do when you
sit across from President Xi, you sit across from the Ayatollah, you sit across from Putin?
You have to be willing to offend with the
truth it's not defending i promised ron desantis a minute and not a full minute i've got a second
it's about pointing out do you want to elect somebody who will be older than biden was when
he went in 2021 just say yes i i don't think he's as bad as Biden was at all.
But I do think that over a four-year period,
it is not a job for somebody that's pushing 80.
We need somebody that's younger.
We need somebody that's going to be able to go in there.
Donald Trump is fit to be president.
I kind of think I can run two terms.
Thank you. Have a nice day.
That's all I can say, Ron.
All three of my other colleagues on this debate stage,
is all three of them have been
licking Donald Trump's boots for years for money and endorsements. Ron DeSantis, you've been a
great governor, but you would have never been one without extra pay. But I don't think that's the
point he's making. Same thing with Chris Christie as a lobbyist, begging them for COVID money for
his special interests in New Jersey, prepping him for the debates last time around. These people are now Monday morning quarterbacking some decision he made. I think
the real enemy is not Donald Trump. It's not even Joe Biden. It is the deep state that at least
Donald Trump attempted to take on. And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power,
then vote for somebody who's going to speak the truth to you. Why am I the only person on the
stage, at least, who can say that January 6th now does look like it was an inside job?
Whoa!
There we go.
About Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11.
That the Great Replacement Theory is not some grand right-wing conspiracy theory, but a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform.
That the 2020 election was indeed stolen by
big tech. That the 2016
election, the one that Trump
won for sure, was also
one that was stolen from him by the national
security establishment that actually
put up the Trump-Russia collusion.
Oh, now they want to cut him off.
There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say
these things. That's what it's going to take.
Not people who are licking his boots one time.
And now Monday morning quarterback.
He also sucks up to the Trump.
That's not his point, though.
He's pointing out.
Yeah, they were.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
They're kissing his boots, but now turning on him, trying to steal.
And Vivek's standing out of it.
Yeah, it's going to turn against him.
The surgeries done on minors involve cutting off body parts at a time when these kids cannot even legally smoke a cigarette.
Kids who go from puberty blockers to cross-sex hormones
are at a much greater likelihood of winding up sterile.
How is it that you think a parent should be able to okay these surgeries,
never mind the sterilization of a child?
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Ontario. No, I'm not. Because Republicans believe in less government, not more.
No.
Less involvement with government, not more involvement in people's lives.
And you know what, Megan?
I trust parents.
Oh, man.
We should empower parents in education.
We should empower parents to make more decisions about where their kids go to school.
I agree.
We should empower parents to be teaching the values that
they believe in in their homes without the government telling them what those values should
be. And yet we want to take other parental rights away. I'm sorry. As a father of four,
I believe there is no one who loves my children more than me. And if they want to cut his penis
off. There's no one who loves my children more than my wife. There's no one who cares more about their success and health in life than we do.
Not some government bureaucrat, not some.
You look at these jokers down in Congress.
It takes them three weeks to pick a speaker.
And up until two days ago, they couldn't promote somebody in the military in the United States Senate who earned their new rank. And we're going
to put my children's health and my decisions in their hands for them to make those decisions,
for Joe Biden to make those decisions. Bro, they're just saying don't give kids sex changes.
They're not saying anything else. Let me just say this. This is not something I favor. I think
it's a very, very dangerous thing to do.'s not the way to do it. I get you.
And I get to make the decisions about my children, not anybody else.
And every parent out there who's watching tonight, you start to turn over just a little bit of this authority.
The authority they're going to take from you next, you're not going to like.
You think he beats his kids?
I'll stand up for parents.
I don't want the government stepping in when I got my belt out.
No, he's got a sack of sweet Valencia oranges. I don't want the government stepping in when I got my belt out.
No, he's got a sack of sweet Valencia oranges.
You guys are going to get to weigh in.
No bruises, man. My kid wants his hand cut off.
He thinks he should be an amputee.
When you were governor in 2017, you signed a law that required new guidelines for schools dealing with transgender students.
Those guidelines required schools to accept a child's preferred gender identity, even
if the minor's parents objected.
And it said that there is no
duty for schools to notify parents
if their son or daughter changes their
gender identity, allowing this
serious issue to remain a secret
between the school and a child.
How is any of that pro-parental
rights?
Oh, Megan Kelly!
That's simply not true. That's simply not true.
That's simply not true. That law was put into effect in 2018 and regulated in 2018 before I,
after I was out of office, Megan. No, we did not, Megan. We did not issue those guidelines,
and you're wrong about that. Simply wrong. I have stood up each and every time.
So I think if this is one issue that's
disqualifying, it's this one. I stood up every single time for parents to be able to make the
decisions for their minor children. Every single time parents should make those decisions. And by
the way, you know what? Every once in a while, parents are going to make decisions. Back check,
Politico, 2017, Chris Christie signs bill to extend protections for trans students.
He is lying.
You don't know that slippery slope, what rights
are going to be taken away next, and what's going to be
enforced on you.
As a parent, you do not have the right
to abuse your kids.
This is cutting off their genitals.
This is mutilating these
minors. These are irreversible
procedures, and this is
something that other countries in Europe, like Sweden, once they started
doing it, they saw it did incalculable damage.
They've shut it down.
I signed legislation in Florida banning the mutilation of minors because it is wrong.
We cannot allow this to happen in this country.
And I know Chris disagrees with me, and I think he has an honest position.
Nikki disagrees with me.
She opposes the bill that we did to ban that.
She said the law shouldn't get involved with it.
You said the law shouldn't get involved with it.
She's so under her skin.
She also, though, I think, and this is flows from what she did as governor of South Carolina.
They had a bill to try to say that men should go into girls' bathrooms.
And she killed that bill.
And she bragged that she killed that bill.
Even to this day, she bragged that.
I don't think men should be going into little girls' bathrooms.
I think it's wrong, and I think we have every right to protect them from that.
I am going to come to you.
I promised him seconds.
Go quickly.
I think the North Star here is transgenderism is a mental health disorder.
We don't let you smoke a cigarette by the age of 18.
We don't let you have an addictive drink of alcohol by the age of 21.
And I just challenge Ron DeSantis to go one step further and support what I think is clearly within the authority to do,
using federal funds just like Reagan did in 84 for the Highway Act that said the minimum drinking age needs to be 21.
We can do the same thing when it comes to banning genital mutilation or chemical castration.
I know Ron's been, I'm clear on that on the federal level. I'm crystal clear. That's where I stand. That's a
mental health disorder. That's where we need to be at. Go ahead. It is literally a disorder.
Ron has continued to lie because he's losing. It's just, you are lying. So first of all,
I will say that when I was governor 10 10 years ago when the bathroom situation came up, we had maybe a handful of kids that were dealing with an issue.
And I said, we don't need to bring government into this, but boys go into boys' bathrooms, girls go into girls' bathrooms.
And if anyone else has an issue, they use a private bathroom.
Now, 10 years later, we see that this issue has exploded. And this shows how hypocritical Ron
continues to be. When he was running for governor and they asked him about that, he said he didn't
think bathroom bills were a good use of his time. You can go look that up. I signed a bathroom bill in Florida. I don't believe her.
Ron's a culture warrior.
It's the only thing he's got.
These are his issues.
The idea that you would say that I was against that. I signed it. You didn't. You killed it. I signed it.
I spoke for little girls. You didn't do it.
And there was this going on.
I was actually just in South Carolina.
Some of the legislators told me at the time
there were boys going into the girls.
That's the whole reason why they did it. And so they say when she does that explanation that that doesn't
hold water. And this is the upstate of South Carolina. I signed the bill. I protected the
girls. She did not do it. You are not going to talk about my state like that because I will tell
you your state lady, South Carolinians never allowed that to happen and we hadn't we did not have that issue at the time what I have always
said is boys going to a boys bathroom girls going to girls but hold on one second I also say
that biological boys shouldn't be playing in girls sports and I will do everything I can to stop that
because it's the women's issue of our time. The thing is, McMaster, who's the seventh governor of South Carolina, now has way more
Trump and way more base than she ever was.
Thank you, guys. We're going to move on.
Mr. Ramaswamy, when discussing your Hindu faith in September, you seemed to take a shot
at Ambassador Haley, who is also Indian American and who converted to Christianity as an adult.
You said, an easy thing for me to do, being a politician, is to shorten my
name, profess to be a Christian, and then run. Make Vivek Vicky or whatever, end quote. Are you
questioning Nikki Haley's Christian convictions? And why has your campaign made a point of referring
to Ambassador Haley by her given first name, Nimarata, even though she's gone by Nikki for
her whole life? Well, my whole deal is if Nikki Haley, of all people, should know how to pronounce my
name correctly, the rest of the news media can learn it.
My deal is I'll call her Nikki when she can say my own name right.
That's our little fun side bet there.
Here's what I will say is deeper.
I don't question her faith, but I question her authenticity.
And I think that's deeper here.
We were just talking about the trans issue.
This is a symptom of a deeper cancer in American life.
Identity politics.
This new religion that says your race, your gender, and your sexuality are your identity.
It is anti-American.
It is meritocratic.
It's anti-meritocratic.
And it is dividing this country to a breaking point.
And I've spoken about this to the left.
My books are all about this.
I've preached this to the left.
But it's even worse when Republicans try to play the same game.
We're talking about that trans issue.
Nikki Haley's campaign launch video sounded like a woke Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light ad talking about how she would kick in heels.
At the first debate, she said that only a woman can get this job done. That's what she said. After the third debate, when I criticized Ronna McDaniel after five failed years of leadership of this party
and criticized Nikki for her corrupt foreign dealings as a military contractor,
she said that I have a woman problem.
Nikki, I don't have a woman problem.
You have a corruption problem.
Nikki is corrupt.
No.
Whoa, oh my God, that was actually it.
That was the real thing.
No!
I tweeted that thing that somebody sent out
and I thought that was a joke.
I thought it was photoshopped.
I beat you to death.
He did it on purpose.
There's going to be a big penis on it.
Yeah, he's going to get tons of memes.
I thought that was a joke.
He's doing that right now
because he wants it to be a meme.
He wants everyone to know his name.
That was amazing.
My buddy sent me a picture of the tweet.
I thought this was photoshopped.
I thought it was photoshopped.
This was like 10 minutes ago.
I thought it was photoshopped, and it's real.
But that's not him holding up.
That's an overhead shot of him preparing it.
I thought this was shot.
And it's like, holy cow.
It was real.
Oh, my God.
To you.
Okay.
We got to move on to this.
I love this.
Wow, dude.
I'm going to Photoshop something right now, actually.
About the Justice Department and our election system.
Here's Tom Fitton with Judicial Watch.
Let's just talk about Vivek crushing Nikki.
Can we please talk about that?
Please, Vivek crushing Nikki. Can we please talk about that? Please, Vivek crushing
Nikki? No?
President Trump and many of his supporters claim
his law enforcement agency
have abused his civil rights
for the last eight years by,
among other things, spying on him
and now prosecuting him while having
treated Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden
with kid gloves.
A recent Gallup poll shows that Americans think more highly of the U.S. Postal Service
than they do the FBI or Justice Department.
What would you do as president to restore the faith of the American people in these agencies?
Well, first off, I'm the only person on this stage who's actually done a job in the Department of Justice.
I was the U.S. attorney in New Jersey in the fifth largest office in this country, appointed by President Bush on September 10th, 2001.
And it was an extraordinary time in this country to be on the front lines of fighting the greatest attack against our country since Pearl Harbor.
And I'm proud of the seven years I spent in the Justice
Department and one of the reasons I am is because I had an Attorney General
when I came in named John Ashcroft. And John Ashcroft stood up and told each and
every one of us our job was to do one thing, to make sure justice was done
every day regardless of partisanship, regardless of gender or race or any other consideration.
And that's what we did for seven years.
And at a time when our country was at its greatest moment of danger in the last 40 years,
we did exactly that and there was not another domestic terrorist attack on this soil.
So what I would do as president, having had that experience,
and the only one who's had that experience, is to pick an attorney general who will absolutely do the same thing that John Ashcroft
did. To pick U.S. attorneys who will only care about making sure that justice is done without
regard to any other consideration but the facts that are presented and whether someone is guilty
beyond a reasonable doubt and the government can prove it.
We have had attorneys general like Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch and Jeff Sessions and now
our current attorney general who have not met that standard.
And the only way you restore people's faith in the justice system is to put someone like
that in charge of the Justice Department and then as president to get at the hell out of the way on anything that
involves criminal investigations if a president's involved in trying to do something and put their
thumb on the scales donald trump says he will do oh shut up that makes people agree i apologize i know i think this is going to be fair thank you thank you yeah he made okay republicans are concerned about the legitimacy of elections
a federal judge just still calling in someone else must count undated mail-in ballots and
unlike alabama many states still don't require any identification to vote what should states do
now to increase election integrity and voter
confidence for the 2024 election? Well, Tom, thanks for the question. Thanks for you guys
doing Judicial Watch. It's really, really important. There's a lot of corruption in
this government. You guys are doing a great job. What you should do for election integrity is do
what we did in Florida. 20 years ago, Florida and elections was a joke. Everybody would laugh at it.
I came in, I removed a couple supervisors from South Florida.
We require voter ID universal, no Zucker bucks, no mass mail balloting, and no ballot harvesting.
We even have an agency that prosecutes people for violating election laws. The result of that in both 2020 and 2022, we counted millions
and millions of votes on election night, produced the results. It was transparent and everybody was
happy. That is not happening throughout this country. But let me tell you this as the nominee,
I think it's important. Not every state's where we need it to be. There is ballot harvesting in
places like Nevada, all these places. I am not going to fight with one hand tied behind my back.
I'm going to have organizations in all the swing states. If they're harvesting, we're harvesting. If they're Zucker
bucks, we're Zucker bucks. We are going to exploit whatever the rules are. I favor changing the rules
to be like Florida and some of the other states that have done a good job. But until then, we
have to do that. And then just on the Justice Department and FBI. I mean, I remember being,
you know, in Iraq working with FBI on the ground and being,
and then I was a special assistant. I used to have such a high regard for these agencies.
What they did to Donald Trump with the Russia collusion was one of the biggest abuses of power
in the history of our country. These agencies need to be cleaned out. With me, you'll have a
new FBI director on day one. We're going to clear out the DOJ, the IRS,
all these places. Buckle
your seatbelts. There's going to be a new sheriff
in town. Thank you.
We're going to come back in one minute.
Just once.
I'm photoshopping right now.
That blew my mind,
dude.
Josh, my buddy downstairs, he sent me
the picture, the meme of that of the
whole you know hayley's corrupt i thought it was literally photoshopped so you had like an aerial
shot of it yeah there's like overhead shot i retweeted and i like literally thought it was
like oh it's like oh somebody focused on ha ha ha you know he wants it and then he holds up
holy shit for a long time i know it was wild at the correct angle. Multiple cameras. He's like, I am about to become a meme. Grandpa, how did Nikki Haley's political career end?
Just show that picture.
Like, they crushed it, bro.
I am curious to see what the polls are like tomorrow,
because Chris Christie's barely here.
I mean, he's not talking at all.
And in fact, there was a whole segment
where they never even tossed him a question.
I couldn't even hear him breathing over the mic either.
No, no, you couldn't.
And so then you have
Nikki Haley, who she is holding a pretty
steady position in New Hampshire,
but again, will this
shake it enough to put, you know,
I would be really curious. Right now
it doesn't look like Vivek would win New Hampshire.
It looks like Donald Trump will win Iowa
and New Hampshire, but I wonder who
that second place will be. Will that be enough?
Yeah, that's what I was picturing.
I hope that goes on Twitter.
Should I tweet?
Yeah, I don't know.
Vivek 2024, truth.
Tweet it really big with the word truth all in caps.
Vivek and I got to fix your camera there, Ian.
Oh, okay.
You know what I will do, though?
That's a funny one.
So for those that are wondering, I'm using my phone here to edit this wonderful Vivek photo,
and I drew male genitals on his notepad.
No, but what I will do is I'm going to erase what he wrote and post the blank white notepad.
Oh, that's a good idea.
Yeah, create systems.
Create systems.
I will unleash it unto you,
and I will not post the vulgarity myself.
I take no responsibility for what you say.
Yeah, David Robinson in chat feels that one.
He had the image.
So Christy said how he would restore faith in the FBI
was to replace, what was was it the attorney general yeah they
also like clear out the you know the front office so to speak i feel like he could have punched
harder at the biden administration like the thing is trump is dominating this they're all critiquing
trump's record he was the last republican president but they could all be attacking joe biden for all
kinds of things because those will be the immediate problems they take on when if anyone theoretically not I think any of them are going to get elected, but
whoever is elected next is going to take on the legacy of Joe Biden.
And he has left a lot of messes behind. Like he is a destructive president in so many ways.
Let's just talk about the border. All of them have interesting and strong,
fairly strong positions. The border way stronger than Republicans have been in the past.
But it's not enough. Right. They need to talk more directly about what biden is not doing also the trump
didn't build the wall thing i don't think it was a one-term job no it's like a three and it was it
could take 16 years you know it could take a long time and reinforce there was a there was obstruction
and when several border states started building their own barriers the federal government under
biden came and took them down oh yeah do you remember when they import their voters one way and when several border states started building their own barriers, the federal government under Biden
came and took them down.
Oh, yeah.
Do you remember when they ordered-
They had to import their voters
one way or another.
Doug Ducey out of Arizona to take,
he had these shipping containers in the gaps.
Yeah.
And they're like,
you have to take those down.
They're in federal land or something.
Then you're like, okay,
are you going to put a wall up?
And they're like, but no,
the animals migrate through here.
Yeah, I know.
There's one thing as well
when you mentioned there
when like Christie talks about saying,
hey, clean out DOJ.
And it comes out like, well, you know, for example, one of my close friends from the Navy who's now been in the FBI for about 15, almost 15 years now.
You know, he's kind of the same mind.
He is very based in many ways.
But also at the same time, he kind of looks at it as he's worried about this, like, throw the baby out with the bath water kind of thing and you know I'm more than mine like
now you need to like make some very disruptive
changes as in like breaking it up
right like saying like it has to happen
a lot of folks you know I'm not saying
like look and one thing we have to realize though is
like the phrase we had when I was in the service it's called
you know one aw shit ruins a thousand
attaboys right because guess what
like the FBI does do a lot of really good work
they stop drug dealers you you know, child predators.
They do actual real work.
But the thing is, though, is like, look,
when there are like these massive fails,
and not even fails, but like evil, bad things
that the, you know, that federal law enforcement are doing,
it's like you, like that does not,
that negates all the good work.
It's got to be split up and it's got to be like,
it can be divvied out to different agencies, state level, federal level,
but it's way too powerful.
If you read about how the FBI started, it's wild.
Oh, yeah, J. Edgar Hoover.
It was like his personal military or something.
Yeah, it was wild.
I don't know much about it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it's insane.
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Most Republicans yesterday
hauled elite university presidents up
to Capitol Hill to answer for the
displays of anti-Semitism on college campuses. And they all defended it. These leaders, including the president of Harvard, Oh, man, this is crazy.
And they all defended it.
Yeah.
Wow.
They said no.
Oh!
Thanks.
Mickey had it. context, including whether that speech veers into conduct. How do you think these schools and the rest of society should balance the imperative of free speech against the need to prevent radical activists from harassing and intimidating
others?
It was disgusting to see what happened.
You know, if this had been the KKK that was doing protests on those campuses, every one
of those college presidents would have been up in arms. This is just as bad. The idea that they would go and allow that kind of pro-Hamas protest
or agree with the genocide of Jews and try and say that they needed context on that,
there is no context to that. This is what we need to do. You don't allow protests.
First of all, we have got to get foreign money out of our universities. You've got Arab money, you've got Chinese
money, you've got others. We need to
go to every university and say you either take
foreign money or you take American money, but the days
of taking both are over. The second
thing we need to do...
Already getting the vague clipboard
memes. Already got one. My buddy just
said it. From downstairs.
There's one in Super Chat. I can't say it, though.
Fair enough. It's really good.
Israel has a right to exist. That is anti-Semitic.
We will change the definition so that every government,
every school has to acknowledge the definition for what it is.
The third thing is we really do need to ban Tik TOK once and for all.
And let me tell you why every 30 minutes that someone watches Tik TOK
every day, they become 17% more anti-Semitic, more pro-Hamas based on doing that.
We now know that 50% of adults, 18 to 25, think that Hamas was warranted and what they did with Israel.
That's a problem.
When campuses also don't go and protect when they have these rallies
and you've got students that are scared,
we need to go to these universities and say,
if you're not going to protect these students, if you're not going to
acknowledge anti-Semitism, we'll take
your tax-exempt status away.
That'll fix it, and that'll take care of it for good.
This whole...
Staying with you, Ambassador Haley.
On October 6th, the Israeli
government thought it had a clear-eyed view
of the threat from Hamas.
In fact, according to the New York Times,
it even had Hamas' attack plan
and dismissed it as an aspiration.
The Israelis were wrong.
In our country, the FBI
director told the Senate panel
just yesterday that he sees
quote, blinking red lights everywhere
and that the threat level has,
quote, gone to a whole nother level since October 7th. Which of the threats facing our country
do you worry could blindside us? What worries me and what keeps me up at night is what happens
between now and Election Day while Joe Biden's in office. That's what worries me more than anything else. But I'll tell you that America
right now is acting like it's September 10th. We better remember what September 12th felt like,
because it only takes one. And whether you're looking at open borders that are allowing people
to come in, Iran knows the easiest way to get to America is through the southern border. And we're
not doing anything to stop it. We've got to get the foreign infiltration
out of our country,
whether it's in our schools,
whether it's on our social media,
whether it's we need to stop all foreign lobbying
that's happening to members of Congress.
And we need to start securing America again.
Until we do that, we are going to be at threats.
We've got to look at Iran.
China and Russia want to destroy the West.
I was in the Senate today.
You know how many Ukrainians I saw? We've got to start protecting Americans. Right now, Americans don't
want to protect. And we're not doing anything to strengthen it. So Joe Biden continues to be a
problem. That'll change on election day. Governor DeSantis, if China invades Taiwan,
would you send American troops as President Biden has said he would do?
We will be able to deter that from happening. I think that's the important thing.
We need a strategy of denial so that we're deterring Xi's ambitions.
What if it doesn't work?
It's going to work. Taiwan's an ally. We have longstanding American policy,
and you know how that's done, and we will follow that. But here's the thing. Taiwan is important not just because of semiconductors.
It's important because if China is able to break out of this first island chain, they're going to be able to dominate commerce in the entire Indo-Pacific.
They will use that to export authoritarianism all around the world, including here in the United States.
You look at some of these guys, actually some of them that are supporting Nikki on Wall Street, they grovel to China. Anytime something happens, they got to go do that.
So they already exert a huge amount of authority over this country. It will get a lot worse.
So deterring China's ambitions is the number one national security
task that I will do as president, and we will succeed. The 21st century
needs to be an American century. We cannot let it be a
Chinese century. Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm coming to you next on Taiwan. You said, if you want to stop
Xi from invading Taiwan, quote, let's open a branch of the NRA in Taiwan and put an AR-15
in the hands of every family and train them how to use it. I stand by that.
A taste of American exceptionalism, end quote.
The national police in Taiwan announced a zero gun policy last year.
Is this a serious policy proposal?
And if it isn't, why do you keep repeating it?
Well, it's part of a broader deterrence strategy.
And so I think I'm going to respectfully disagree with Ron here.
I think the next U.S. president needs to be crystal clear that at least for the foreseeable future, the U.S. will absolutely defend Taiwan. And it is with that clarity that we actually achieve deterrence.
But I have a broader strategy than that. We need to get on side in our relationship with India,
take it to the next level. India has to be able to block the Andaman Sea, which is where China
gets most of its Middle Eastern oil supplies. That's critical.
I also do believe the Second Amendment is a critical way of preventing foreign autocrats
from being able to, it's worked in America, why wouldn't it work in Taiwan? So it is part of a
broader strategy. But I do think that we need to be specific about our deterrence strategy,
or else Xi Jinping is just encroaching by the day. And the reason why we're not doing it for China,
I want to be crystal clear,
is because we're scared.
Why are we scared?
Because we depend on them for our modern way of life.
Why do we depend on them for our modern way of life?
It's because Nikki Haley's latest friends like Larry Fink have created co-mingled economies
with BlackRock telling Exxon and Chevron
they can't drill here
while being a shareholder of PetroChina
not applying those same constraints in China. So it is our economic dependence on China that makes us scared. If that
were a Russian spy balloon, we'd have shot it down in an instant. If that were a Russian spy
base in Cuba, we'd be actually going hard on them instead of turning the other way as we are with
China. So it comes back down to that economic dependence. We cannot depend on them for our
pharmaceuticals, our semiconductors, and people have been lied to for a long time. Our own military, the F-35 jets
that we make in this country depend on China and it's going to take an outsider to fix that broken
establishment. Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. Ambassador Haley, would you like to respond?
You should come back with like, if every 30 minutes a kid's on TikTok, there's 17% more
anti-Semitic, that means Nikki Haley's kid is like 8,500% anti-Semitic.
We win in Ukraine, that we protect our friends, but also let China know that they'll be held
in hand if they go into Taiwan.
They need to know that there is going to be a force that's going to go against them.
And they need to know it's not just going to be the United States.
That is why we need to build our partnerships with India, with South Korea, with Japan, with the Philippines, with Australia. We need to start pulling that
alliance together. And the first way we do that is we need to make sure that on day one,
we look at the fact, whatever, if China pulled the rug out from under us tomorrow,
would we be ready? Think about what happened during COVID. Everybody told you to wear a mask.
They were made in China. Everybody told you to wear a mask. They were made
in China. Everybody told you to take a COVID test. They were made in China. Everybody went and, I
mean, everything that happened, if you go to the drugstore, all those medicines are made in China.
We have to make sure that we are not relying on China for anything related to our national
security. Which means let's start focusing on really? He's like, I should be the moderator.
Governor Christie, I'd like you to weigh in on that.
Do you think our main campaign in Taiwan with an AR-15 is a plausible policy?
Ian, I'll DM you.
Just tweet it.
I don't think we have constitutional authority over Taiwan to give them a Second Amendment.
I think they can only do that for themselves.
But look, I want to be really clear.
Once again, I want to play the role of actually answering your question, which is if China went after Taiwan, you're absolutely right.
I would, as president, have us go militarily and defend them.
Secondly, I'm not afraid, based upon those economic relationships, to do that.
Because these economic relationships mean nothing.
Nothing. economic relationships to do that because these economic relationships mean nothing nothing if what's going to happen is that china is going to come and act in that region of the world however
they see fit it's not right and and and i'll say this about um what you know i heard from nikki
earlier she said that donald trump was good on trade he wasn. And the proof that he wasn't good on
trade with China is that all he did was
impose tariffs, which raised the prices
for every American. You want to know
what has contributed to inflation in this country?
Yes, it's more government spending.
The Democrat wins and then says, we're going to be
bipartisan and unify the country. Chris Christie's
a Republican. We're bringing him back.
The prices that were driven by Donald Trump's
tariffs. And one last thing,
you can't say he was good on trade because he didn't trade.
He didn't change one Chinese policy in the process.
He failed on it.
Thank you, Governor Christie.
Governor DeSantis, switching subjects here.
For 15 years, Republicans have been burned by politicians' promises to repeal Obamacare.
Trump repeatedly promised to replace
it with, quote, something terrific, but failed to propose anything. You're now promising something
better. But Florida has more uninsured people than almost any other state. Why should Americans
trust you more than any other Republicans who've disappointed them on this issue?
Well, I think we have millions of Americans who do not have access to affordable health care. And
it's not just getting some type of card and Medicaid, because a lot of times they don't
even get access to doctors. Do you actually get access to care? The other thing is we have
millions and millions of people don't have access to good doctors and good hospitals. Florida did
not expand Obamacare. I think the states that did
that, I think, are struggling financially. So that, yes, we declined to do that. And I don't
think that that was the right policy to do. But we are going to go after the cost. You're paying
too much for everything. We've actually addressed this in Florida in some ways. But you need price
transparency. You need to hold the pharmaceuticals accountable. You need to hold big insurance and big government accountable.
And we're going to get that done.
I think it's very, very important economically.
I think it's very, very important for the country that we get that done.
Go ahead.
Yeah, so I actually wanted to, this is a very personal issue to our family.
I wanted to take actually a minute to recognize my wife who's here today.
Badass surgeon.
She did a bunch of cases with cancer survivors earlier today
flew here to be not tonight we'll be back at 7 a.m in columbus ohio tomorrow taking care of those
patients in the or most accomplished on the front lines of people who have actually not swallowed
for years and here's what's something that's awful that's happening in our health care system
they'll pay for anything like feeding tubes, doctors to be pill pushers,
but for the procedures that can actually make these patients better, we have a broken healthcare
system that doesn't pay for it. My wife, a poor woman in many cases does not get paid for those
procedures. She does them anyway, because it's the right thing to do, but that does not work
system wide. So here's the answer. We don't have a health care system in this country. We have a sick care system. We be new ideas always. That's where the competitive marketplace begins.
That's the answer.
Multiple times over.
A successful business person.
He has never had any political experience.
The Trump administration and private industry
developed a COVID vaccine in record time.
Can't talk about the vaccine, apparently, on Rumble.
That's not us, that's them.
That was a joke.
Technical issues. As soon as joke. This is them, yeah. Oh!
Technical issues! Dude, seriously,
as soon as they start talking about vaccines, come on,
guys. Dude, Vivek just explained how to solve it. He said that you need to end
the antitrust exemptions on the pharmaceutical
on the insurance
agency. Wait, wait, wait.
She just asked about vaccines and the whole thing
just shut down. Dude, that's so true.
Somebody call Chris from Rumble. Don't make me want to put on a tinfoil hat, guys, but like, come on. She just asked him about vaccines and the whole thing just shut down. Dude, that's so true. Somebody call Chris from Rumble. Don't make me
want to put on a tinfoil hat, guys. But like,
come on. Like I said, if it was YouTube,
I'd be like, oh, that makes sense. I mean, we're on YouTube.
So you end the antitrust
exemption. We'll be right back.
For insurance agencies. That's pretty cool.
I like the music, though.
Yeah, it's a jam.
You know what? The music
makes it okay. of all those folks
on stage i gotta say the things you think about like the guys vivek right like tremendous private
sector experience right and his wife's super accomplished dude like you know it's one of
you compare him in terms like legacy like what they've done before like like politician compared
to someone who you know like started huge companies he's a billionaire or
i don't know if he's a billionaire he's a nine-figure dude at least like that is that's
that's pretty hard to do yeah it is i think often about i'm not qualified to get into politics yet
because i haven't done jack shit with my personal like i guess i have you know it's not what's going
on i know it's wild dude what if it's not the vaccine thing what if like, like, Chris Christie finally stormed off stage or, like, fell over or something?
Who knows?
I don't know, man.
Yo, but no, but for real, like, what if something happened to somebody?
Is this airing somewhere else?
Well, right now, we'll see.
Well, online, it's on Rumble.
Like, if you want to watch on television, we could.
Well, I'm not saying you should pull it up, but just, like, let's make sure it's, like,
it's not a Rumble problem.
It's a Rumble problem and not a, you know.
This is their stream.
Yeah, this is their stream.
So Rumble right now is looking into it.
Right.
But I'm like, if other folks are airing it right now.
Yeah, it looks like TV is still on.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
It's just a Rumble issue, it seems.
So if you're watching on cable, you're still getting it.
Okay.
Chris Christie, he's eating the microphone.
I'm kidding.
He's bored.
He charged the camera.
He's like, I'm tired of this.
The entire idea.
Oh, no.
What?
Austin Peterson tweets, Vivek just hammered the final nail in the Neocon coffin era tonight.
I want to rewind.
I'm in suspense.
What did he say?
But the idea of like any politician, right, who's coming out there where it's like this
guy like Vivek and Trump for that matter, they don't need the job, right?
He does not need to be here, right? A lot of these folks here, that matter, they don't need the job. Right. He does not need to be here.
Right.
A lot of these folks here, that's how they make their money.
Yeah.
I can't believe they just lost the debate.
The thing is, everyone on stage needs to be here to raise their national profile on some level.
And that's totally understandable.
That's why they were invented in the first place.
Right.
So Americans could get to know the candidates.
But it is a weird stage when ultimately we know.
I wonder if Trump is waiting until there's basically one left.
And then he's like, OK, I'll do a debate now.
He doesn't need to be here while they throw punches at each other.
But we all ultimately want to know how whoever comes out of this stacks up against Trump.
I got to say, if he's still maintaining a ridiculously strong lead, he has no incentive to.
Well, that's what he said.
It's all downside. Right, and the GOP
needs him more because he's essentially
a headliner, right? If he goes, they're like,
it's ridiculous to skip this. That was Ron McDaniels,
but he would boost all of their
ratings. Are we back? Is it happening? What is going on?
When anyone asks who lost the debate
tonight, the answer is Rumble. Ouch.
I know, it sucks because I love Rumble.
Yeah, I just refreshed it and now it's just
doing this.
It's the trip counter of Joe Biden and versus Rumble HQ tripping all over themselves.
Here we go.
Here we go.
No, no, no. Oh, you're rewinding.
Oh, crap.
Yeah.
I hope it picks up.
They just switched to cut to some trips.
Okay.
Yeah.
Switch to some.
They're like, remember how much you don't like Joe Biden?
It's fine.
Get your exclusive.
Run the Biden blooper reel.
Now they're selling me elephant pins.
I do feel like they're not talking about Biden enough. I think that there's a lot of infighting which makes sense
as a republican primary but like i said they're gonna inherit they're gonna inherit whatever trump
biden leaves oh okay i guess rumble just lost it i don't know i get i get annoyed when they talk
about other people is it did it go to commercial now i guess because they're running commercials
i mean they must have been pretty close
to a commercial break anyways.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's running commercials now.
They're looking into it right now.
That's all I can see.
Yeah, Rumble's just...
Everyone at Rumble,
they're all jumping through their asses
trying to figure it out.
I'm sure they are.
But I think it went to commercial anyway, so...
Okay.
Like I said, I'm pretty sure
they were close to a break anyways.
Still, but right when they're talking
about vaccine stuff,
just a little weird.
Yeah.
Yeah, but Rumble.
No, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm with you.
If it was YouTube.
I'm with you.
Is that Armless Palmer?
Yeah.
They don't make those anymore.
You got to keep the can as a collectible.
Yeah, because Liquid Death got sued.
So just a shout out to-
Now it's called Dead Billionaire.
One of the best Mill blog guys out there on Mill Twitter.
So if you guys are out there,
a guy named Commander Salamander,
who I, CR Salamander,
strongly recommend on any sort of like military, special
naval issues. He's a retired naval officer
friend who I know in real life, but he
maintains himself very non.
Anyways, he was like tweeting at me. He's like,
what's that can that Tom has right now?
He's watching right now. And so, hey Sal.
And so yeah, Liquid Death. And it's
limited edition and obviously discontinued.
So yeah. It's actually called, I think it's not Dead Billionaire, it's Dead Golfer.
Oh, okay.
Dead Billionaire?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
But to the friends or anybody who's watching right now, if you're interested in anything
military on Twitter, Commander Salamander, CDR Salamander, 10 out of 10 recommend.
Oh, that's awesome.
I just followed him.
Yeah, oh, he's phenomenal.
Do you talk to a lot of people who don't use Twitter?
Like, how often do you?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, a ton.
I mean, that's like my family.
And do you feel like they exist in a different world than you?
Yes.
We were talking about this the other night.
Yeah, generally.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Lots of my mom's always asking me like, oh, did you watch this?
And I was like, no, I don't watch Fox.
Yeah.
But you have all sorts of information that they probably don't have.
Yeah.
I mean, like it's one thing that also a lot of us who are like very online, right?
Especially on political, cultural issues.
You got to realize that it's like, that's a pretty niche field.
You know?
Yeah.
And you know, outside of folks,
like even when I mentioned,
oh, I'm going on this podcast tomorrow, blah, blah, blah.
Like, you know, a lot of folks,
the folks who are like following politics
or online watching things, they all know this.
But a lot of folks are like, oh, I've heard of that.
I'm like, oh, Tim Pool, we heard about him.
He used to work for Vice.
He used to do this, this, this, you know, occupied Wall Street, but way back in the day. And like, oh, I've heard of that. I'm like, oh, Tim Pool, we heard about him. He used to work for Vice. He used to do this, this, this.
Occupy Wall Street, but way back in the day.
Like, oh, yeah, I think.
But a lot of the normies, they don't follow Twitter.
They don't know what's going on.
So how do you feel like that will affect the 2024 election?
Because there is, I think, even more than 2016, more than 2020,
a division between people who are online and see one thing.
And actual, not even like between people who are online and see one thing and actual,
you know, not even like lefties who are offline, like just moderate voters who don't exist
in this space.
I think they're actually, okay, this is just me guessing and I could be wrong and I'm trying
to like set my own biases aside.
I think they're actually more base than we think.
I believe that.
I believe that.
I feel like the left has dragged the barometer so far over that they point to the middle
and say, you're far right.
Cthulhu always swims left, right?
You know, if you follow Curtis Yarvin's stuff at all, how Cthulhu always swims to the left.
Because one of his flippers are bigger than the other.
Right.
Well, yeah, but it's just always that way.
One of the things I've always said is politics always flows left.
Yeah.
And what that means is if an Antifa guy stands next to a Trump supporter in a photograph, they're both right wing.
Right.
Or does that mean politics only flows to the right?
I don't know.
It flows in one direction.
Well, yeah.
Take your conventional mainstream well-known conservative like your Ben Shapiro, right?
For instance, right?
Who we would consider, right?
You transport him back in time 100 years.
He's a wacko lefty, right?
You know what I mean?
By 1923 standards, right?
And then if you take, you know,
somebody who's on the right from 1923, right?
And you transport him to 1823,
he's a wacko lefty, right?
So it's like always kind of swims to the left, right?
And then until there's usually some sort of a reset,
you know, not to get all like Kali Yuga.
So does that mean that you feel like we're approaching a reset period.
If you feel like the moderate,
I wish we weren't,
but we probably are.
Cause yeah,
I mean,
I think a lot of people can agree.
It's like a vibe,
whatever you want to call it,
but like we're back,
we're back,
we're back.
Let's do it.
President Reagan.
That's going to be called.
What would Reagan do?
That book's going to come out early in 2024.
All right,
here we go.
Yeah.
Was it Ronald Reagan was a slave to the truth?
Ronald Reagan stood up for the truth,
whether it was popular or unpopular at the moment.
In 1964, he stood up against the John Birch Society
when it was very unpopular to the party to do it,
but he would not put up with our party standing for lies and deceit,
even if it gave him political progress. That's the kind of president that I will be, and I would draw that inspiration
from the 40th president of the United States, Ronald Reagan.
Ambassador Haley?
Well, I have to say, too, I think George Washington, when you look at the responsibilities
he had, how do you go and take on this great American experiment
and make sure that the people are protected?
And they always knew that government was intended
to secure the rights and freedoms of the people.
It was never meant to be all things to all people.
And then you look at Abraham Lincoln,
and you look at the challenges,
and you look at the division that happened in our country,
and the ability to lead in spite of the loud noises
and say what will bring out
the best in them to get us through?
She's saying talking like every
job is always something that's important.
And I think we need that now more than ever.
I feel like she's lost her mind.
She doesn't open her mouth when she talks.
She's talking like this.
Excellent.
One of the guys I'll take inspiration from is Calvin Coolidge.
Now, people don't talk about him a lot.
He's one of the few presidents that take inspiration from is Calvin Coolidge. Now, people don't talk about him a lot. He's one of the few presidents. He understood the proper role of the federal government under the
Constitution. We need to restore the U.S. Constitution as the centerpiece of our national
life. And that requires a president who understands the original understanding of the Constitution,
who has a good sense of the Bill of Rights, and who knows how we've gone off track with this massive fourth branch of government,
this administrative state, which is imposing its will on us and is being weaponized against us.
So Silent Cal knew the proper role of the federal government. The country was in great shape when
he was president of the United States. And we can learn an awful lot from Calvin Coolidge.
Over to you, Mr. Ron. Okay, well, great. Thanks for chiming in. He's not wrong.
I will say Ron picked a president who was born on July 4th. I'll pick one who died on July 4th.
It's Thomas Jefferson. He was 33 years old when he wrote the Declaration of Independence,
and you all are sitting on a swivel chair today. He invented the swivel chair while he was at it, while writing that Declaration of Independence.
That's that founding spirit that we miss, that we're the pioneers. We're the explorers,
the guy who sent them out on the Lewis and Clark expeditions. And I think a lot about what Thomas
Jefferson say to today's Republican Party. And I think one thing he'd remind us of,
we haven't talked about as much tonight, but I think it is one of the interesting
ideological discussions we're having in our party is freedom of speech. You get to express your mind
freely no matter how heinous the opinion. Thomas Jefferson understood that. He's an inspiration for
me. Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. And believe it or not, it's time for closing statements.
Governor Christie, would you like to begin? Sure. thank you. I want you all to kind of picture in your minds election day.
You'll all be heading to the polls to vote.
And that's something that Donald Trump will not do.
Because he will be convicted of felonies before then,
and his right to vote will be taken away.
Does he not understand the base likes him?
Here's the bottom line.
You can boo about it all you like and continue to deny reality.
But if we deny reality as a party, we're going to have four more years of Joe Biden.
My colleagues here raised their hands and said they would support him even if he was a convicted felon.
The bigger problem with it is they were confirming the lies he's told to the American people.
If you're too timid to take on Trump, believe me, others will
see that timidity. Xi,
Putin in the Ayatollah,
the border crossers on the southern border,
and the criminals in our streets.
They'll sense that timidity, and they'll
take advantage of that failure of leadership.
We need to get back to an old American idea
that every person is
responsible for their own conduct.
Even a president.
I'll be the
kind of president who has the humility that
knows that you work for the
people. It's not the other way
around.
I will earn your trust.
I want to earn your vote.
Thank you, Governor Christie. Mr. Ramaswamy?
I'll use this to just address a topic
we didn't talk about tonight, but I think it's one of the most
important topics that needs to be discussed.
That is this climate change agenda
that is shackling this country like a set of
handcuffs. I said it at the first debate
and I stand by it. The climate
change agenda is a hoax
because it has nothing to do with the
climate. That's what we have to see.
98% reduction in the climate
disaster-related deaths in the last
century. Eight times as many people are going to die of cold temperatures this year than warm ones.
Yet against that backdrop, there's an issue coming up in Iowa. It's core to Iowa farmers. I met Kim
Junker, Kathy Stockdale, and other farmers who are about to have a carbon capture pipeline built
across their land using eminent domain to do it. That's
unconstitutional and it's wrong. And if you thought COVID was bad, what's coming with this
climate agenda is far worse. We should not be bending the knee to this new religion. That is
what it is. It is a substitute for a modern religion. We are flogging ourselves and losing
our modern way of life, bowing to this new god of climate. And that will end on my watch.
Thank you, Ambassador Haley.
It's the most critical issue that's coming up.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Our country is in chaos.
We see it on the southern border.
We see it on our streets, in our cities.
We see it on college campuses.
Open your mouth, dude.
We feel it with our economy, with inflation, and with debt. Why won't you open your mouth? We feel it with our economy, with inflation and with debt.
Why won't she open her mouth?
She probably has Botox.
Crazy surgery or something.
We have to stop the chaos, but you can't
defeat Democrat chaos.
It's been a rough labor.
And that's what Donald Trump gives us.
My approach
is different. No drama.
No vendettas.
No whining.
Just war.
I envision an America where we're protected from illegal immigration and Chinese infiltration. I envision an America where we unleash our economy and we reject socialism.
But more importantly, I envision an America where we rediscover our national purpose and our pride.
Thank you.
I crushed Joe Biden in the polls.
Thank you.
And if you give me this chance, we will crush him in November and take our country back.
Maybe her teeth are just too big.
Weird.
Veneers?
Yeah.
I wonder if she's feeling stressed and emotional.
There's still one more.
I forgot.
There's one more. I forgot. We are in jeopardy of being the first generation of Americans to leave to our kids and grandkids in America less prosperous and less free than the one we inherited.
I refuse to sit idly by and let that happen.
But we've got to have people that are going to be willing to fight the people that are doing this to us.
You can't be these establishment Republicans that just cave at the first sign of opposition.
I'll fight for you.
We also need to win again as a party.
Yes, win the election, which we've struggled to do,
but also win on these big issues.
And nobody has defeated these people
more than what I have done in the state of Florida
on issue after issue.
We have won and we have won big.
And that's what we'll do for you.
We also need leadership.
Leadership is not about doing what's easy. It's about being willing to set out that vision,
knowing they're going to shoot arrows at you. They're going to come at you.
I will fight the good fight. I will keep the faith that I will finish the race.
Thank you. And God bless you. Thank you, all of you.
Mike drop. Can I tell you something, if I if if i may real quick is if you guys might remember back
in 2016 during the democratic debates which was like a hilarious like you know joke they asked
the like you know the final closing out arguments to say who is it somebody that you're proud to
call your enemy right and it was like bernie sanders like the nra or somebody and hillary
clinton's like republicans or whatever and then they had, you guys remember James Webb?
You guys remember he ran?
What a throwback.
He was a senator from Virginia,
former secretary of the Navy under Reagan,
also kind of like one of my personal heroes
who I looked up to as a kid,
Naval Academy guy, Vietnam War hero, all this.
And what he says, it was great.
And he was too base for Democrats.
He goes, the North Vietnamese infantry officer
who threw a grenade at me, but he's not
around to talk about it anymore.
Is that the guy they named the James
Webb telescope after? No, different guy.
Totally different James Webb.
When I saw that, it was like,
Democrats couldn't handle that.
I think it's clear after watching this,
a tremendous performance by some of the candidates,
and we all now know who the nominee
is going to be, Donald Trump. Donald Trump. I donald trump so thanks thanks everyone for hanging out for two hours
so that we could uh confirm that it would be donald trump but i gotta give it up i do think
it was good i think ron actually it's his best debate performance you do well i still think he's
got he's got a personality problem for his and his campaign is poorly run there is but there's a lot
of really great points when it comes to cultural issues nicki haley lied chris christie lied the most so i pulled up i
pulled the article i tweeted it out from politico chris christie signed the bill on the trans
bathroom stuff and other trans rights and other really he's lying and he knows he's in trouble
yeah with that nicki haley also did say parental rights she also did say she will make it so you
can't be anonymous yeah she's gaffed way too much.
So, you know, Iran and Vivek.
Vivek obviously took the night.
But I want to make sure I point out
Vivek is speaking to us.
Of course. There's a lot of people
he's not speaking to. Sure. So we saw in his first
debate performance, he actually saw favorability
go up and unfavorability go up.
Sure. So there were a lot of people who didn't know who he was.
Right. And he polarized. I mean, honestly, a lot of people who didn't know who he was and he polarized.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, honestly,
I think Vivek can, you know,
write his ticket
in the Trump administration.
And Chris Christie can write his
for the Newsom administration.
You're not wrong.
But I don't think
the Newsom administration,
I mean, they would take him
just to eventually
kick him out in a dramatic way
because he is a Republican.
No, Newsom is going to be like,
we're going to bring unity
to this country.
Yeah, it'll be unity. We want Republicans on is going to be like, we're going to bring unity to this country. We want
Republicans on our side. Chris Christie,
I need your help. No, he would take
Liz Cheney because Liz Cheney's never endorsed Trump
whereas this guy
has. But I think that's the point of what
Chris Christie's going for. Unpopular statement
guys, so I think it's a matter of time before Gavin Newsom
is president. One of these days. I mean, he's still
relatively young. You don't think so? I'm not saying
24. I think he'll campaign. i'm not saying i'm not saying i think he'll campaign i'm not saying 24 no really okay guy oh no i hope i'm
wrong and i hope you're right he doesn't have it right you don't think so no absolutely not
okay he's a mitt romney type okay right like the governor you know mitt romney's a governor he's a
senator and then he runs for president and it's just like but joe biden old mitt romney joe biden
was the mitt romney type he was so gross in 08 when i was watching them debate the other thing is like
the democrats have this identity issue which is that they they don't want white men in office
anymore so theoretically they could run gavin newsom he's good on some positions but he's a
white man and this is going to continue to be one of the issue that bifurcates the voters in that
party this is something that joe biden was like hinting at during his campaign like i'll i'll be the last
of the old guard just just let me this one time and now he doesn't want to leave and if they put
in a j gavin newsom it'll be the same thing with it with gavin i look at this way it's like gavin
is charming he is charismatic he is handsome and i mean guess what that matters you guys a lot more
than people are willing to admit sure and when people watch everyone's i watch him every once in a while talk about certain
things i'm like son of a bitch but but he's he's like he can spin like there's no he doesn't have
the x factor i hope you're right yeah he doesn't know okay i mean he may he may be like you know
he may be tier one but he is not special tier right there's people who are well
above sure i would say gavin newsom falls into your standard ranking of politicians on the high
end okay but trump obama i wouldn't necessarily say george w bush but yes the people become
presidents have something above everybody except biden yeah but biden was anti-trump
yeah after he won so newsome winning
maybe as an anti-campaign sure but that's that's happened like very rarely in this country newsome
is he's he may be top tier but he's not special class trump trump is something magical and i don't
like i mean like his persona his character his story, his golden toilet. There is a uniqueness to his arc.
Gavin Newsom is a background character.
It's charisma mixed with intelligence.
I don't get the intelligence out of Gavin.
I don't know him as well, but Obama had intelligence and charisma.
Trump had intelligence and charisma.
That's a big combo.
Gavin Newsom is Bradley Cooper in Wedding Crashers.
Bradley Cooper went on to become a big, famous actor.
He's got a prominent role in the movie
but he's not the main character yeah another big issue it's it's Donald Trump up there in the front
with Vince Vaughn and Bradley Cooper is Gavin Newsom and they're supporting and but one thing
as well that's interesting to point out though is that you've noticed that Gavin Newsom I might be
wrong on this you can fact check me but he rarely goes hard or goes after trump directly
at all now granted there's a family connection between the trumps and the newsome family like
not people aren't aware of you know gilfoyle yeah gilfoyle yeah who's now like but you know
she was married to newsome right right yeah and it's like but he very rarely like newsome very
rarely goes after trump directly you know what i mean and it's almost like and even and even like, remember there's a massive California wildfires back in the day when Trump
was in office,
Trump came out and there sees the two of them walking together.
Right.
And also like,
Hey,
during when,
you know,
when Gavin had that debate with DeSantis,
well,
I thought Gavin did really well.
When you watch Gavin have that interview with handy,
he like,
who else goes on Fox?
Like I'll go on Fox.
And like,
guess what?
Like,
you know, I thought Gavin Newsom, like I hated to admit admit it, but, like, oh, man, he body slammed Hannity.
I had a vision.
He did a great job against Hannity.
I was, like, meditating.
Which is not much, but you know what I mean.
I had this, like, vision where I was hanging out with Newsom and Ramaswamy together.
Like, the three of us were hanging out talking about stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a good feeling.
What did you talk about?
It was just as vague as that.
Nothing, like, specifics, but I just, like, felt the presence of the two of them working together that was kind of an
interesting but every once i watched that guy talk and i'm just like i know he's lying all that but
son of a bitch he's the thing is he has he has the personality he could do it i think with him
not critiquing trump directly it's almost right now at least because he doesn't want to upset the
dnc and biden administration If he starts attacking Trump directly,
it makes it more obvious
he sees himself as the heir apparent
and should be the Democratic nominee,
which I think he has to tiptoe around
because when he was debating DeSantis,
he went out of his way to defend Biden, right?
He needs the Biden support.
He needs their institution support
as much as he needs to.
And Newsom's taking his time.
I mean, he's still relatively young.
He's got time. He's kind of like time i mean he's still relatively young he's
got time he's kind of like waiting on he's kind of on the bench in case something happens he's
hanging out and like he's got time he doesn't you know like for you know for trump for instance like
this is like trump's last shot yeah i want to i want to play this clip and wokeness just posted
here we go i'm sitting opposite you but you are a little overweight. A little. Yeah. Yeah.
Why?
If I could figure that out, I'd fix it.
Do you try to diet? I think I can figure it out.
Barbara, I've had more diets and lost
and gained back more weight in my lifetime
than I care to count.
There are people who say that you couldn't be president
because you're so heavy.
What do you say to them?
No, that's ridiculous.
Taft was president.
But I completely agree. Yeah, it's a weird thing. Come on, man. Cal? No, that's ridiculous. Taft was president. But I completely agree.
Yeah, it's a weird thing.
Dude, come on, man.
Calories in, calories out.
Don't even, don't even,
and they're not,
I don't think all food products
are the exact same.
So I really don't,
there are people who are like,
it's just calories in, calories out.
And I'm like,
it's technically true,
but it doesn't help someone
who's like Chris Christie.
Yo, Chris,
stop eating the bread
and the carbs and the sugar.
Not kidding.
Higher protein, high fat. You get some veggies in there. Yo, Chris, stop eating the bread and the carbs and the sugar. Not kidding. Higher protein, high fat.
You get some veggies in there.
The dude has clearly not talked to a nutritionist.
He has clearly not even tried.
And I've seen him in person up close, right?
One time.
And I was like, oh my God.
It's huge.
And to be honest,
a lot of the suits he wears,
those suits are actually pretty slimming,
if that's anything.
But it's real bad.
And he's actually probably fairly...
His legs are probably super ripped
because they have to carry all that weight.
But it's one of those things where it sounds great,
but when you see somebody who's that big,
you're like, okay, there's something going on there.
There's something deeper than just like...
It's like, well, why is this?
Why is that?
I'm not trying to like psychoanalyze.
You know what I mean?
He got a lap band surgery in February 2013.
That's when you get like a belt wrapped around his stomach.
Wait, he got a lap band?
He still?
He lost a hundred pounds.
That's where it's like, if he's saying like.
And then he weighed at 320.
Whoa.
If he has like some crazy thyroid issue, right?
Like that's the only way it could be like, maybe it's really difficult for you to lose weight.
Yeah, but that means he's not trying.
And also maybe I don't need you to be president because if you have unexplained medical conditions,
maybe this is not the move.
It's like being an alcoholic.
We were talking about this the other day because our spin drifts are certified gluten-free,
for whatever reasons.
For whatever reason.
And so, you know, I cut out most carbs and now I've eliminated bread and gluten from
my diet.
And I actually feel better
than oh 100 dude like my like even my skateboarding yeah clips that i've gotten some of these tricks
you know some of the best i've ever done sure and uh at 37 i was like wow i i kind of think the
bread is messing me up i've long thought that i do i do think cutting out carbs helps but uh we
were talking about it and you know it usually goes to it's probably not the bread it's the chemicals they put in bread in the united states i'm sure because when we've had uh european bread imported flour
and things like this or pure organic yeah it is different it is different yeah and like look i'm
not suggesting that like hey if you got to be running for public office you need like be the
paragon of fitness or anything but holy crap you guys like that's that's yeah that's a lot it's a
health risk and that's a risk to our national security if the president falls down and has a heart attack in the middle of the day on a Tuesday.
Like, what's that going to do to the country?
Oh, dude, look.
Can't risk that.
We've got, you know, Foo Fighters drummer, right?
He died.
Taylor Hawkins.
Yeah, experiencing chest pains and then dies.
Yeah.
And at first they claimed he had drugs in the system, but then the band, I guess, claimed that's not true.
He was not doing drugs.
Yeah, and so I'm like, dude, if a fit drummer,
and they said he was super exhausted because they were playing like crazy,
if someone that fit is going to die of a heart issue or whatever,
you know, Chris Christie.
Cut out the azzo dies, Chris Christie.
And also say what you want about George W. Bush.
That dude is running like a sub 25K in office.
I mean, that dude, Bush was fit.
He was athletic.
I was reading a little bit about Christie.
He used to be an athlete, and then he quit in his 20s to get into politics,
and that was when he was at his 80s.
Was he skinny?
No, he was like 350 pounds in college.
Whoa.
350 in college?
It was 322.
A3 22, like football. Yo, look at this. Look at this. Whoa. 350 in college? It was 322. A3 22, like football.
Yo, look at this.
Look at this.
Yeah.
That's Chris.
Who's that young Chad?
That's the thing.
Some athletes carry a lot of weight
and that number sounds weird.
He's like total Chad bro.
Man, I want him to be healthy.
You know he got it in you, Chris.
What?
There's no excuse, man.
Intermittent fasting, really.
It's elimination itself.
What?
Yeah, he's eating garbage
and he doesn't care.
He's like,
if I could figure it out,
I'd tell you.
Nah, that's not even it.
That picture of him
in a baseball uniform.
People that are like,
I don't eat that much,
but then they snack
and they don't realize
how much is much, you know?
What's that picture of him
in the baseball uniform earlier?
There we go.
That's a cool one.
Jersey boy. I see why they like him. He's like my teenager but that like dude's total chat total stud that's the politician that i would vote like a guy like that i'm like he's a leader right the weight issue
though is that's wild just his lack of self-control he started eating and he didn't stop like like
look man you can't you cannot gain weight if you're not consuming food yeah i'm not saying
starve yourself.
I'm saying go talk to a doctor, nutritionist.
There are ways they can help.
We were watching this.
I watched the show a long time ago.
You can probably Google it and figure out which one it is.
And they track people and what they eat all day.
And there's these two morbidly obese women who are like, we don't eat that much.
For breakfast, I have a salad.
And for lunch, I have a sandwich.
And I keep gaining weight.
And so they follow them around all day filming them. At the end of the day, they're like, how many calories do you think you ate? And she's like, well, for breakfast, I had a sandwich and I keep gaining weight. And so they follow him around all day filming him.
At the end of the day, they're like,
how many calories do you think you ate?
And she's like, well, for breakfast,
I had two eggs and bacon.
So that's maybe 300 calories.
And then I had for lunch a salad.
So that's maybe 400 because of the dressing.
So I think I'm maybe around 900.
And they're like, you're at 37
because you were eating chocolates
and you were eating chips.
Because every few minutes you'd walk past
and grab a cookie out of a bowl and eat it and they were like all of the snacks you ate totaled
thousands of calories oh yep hey if we wanted to put a talk about deep flaws on when it comes to
candidates one of the things like despite all the corruption with Nikki Haley and all that
here's the thing and like I know this might sound like some weird unpopular opinion and it might
sound strange but it's like okay you were a very popular
governor in it at you know in south carolina you were the un ambassador a lot of people like you
your well-known household name right even before she started running for president this time
you got a book deal all this stuff and it's like oh well she and richard and on the board of boeing
are you kidding me and that's like she's only worth in like eight million dollars like I know it sounds weird but like
For for that level of game
BuzzFeed news actually wrote an article ten years ago called seven photos of a skinny Chris Christie
Oh, wow, the New Jersey governor recently had a lap band surgery to reduce his weight at the urging of his family
Well, then we're outed. Yeah, it didn't work. It didn't take.
We're going to wrap things up here.
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Right now we're ordering sofas.
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And a lot more planned for the space.
It's decently large.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
There's going to be a little mini bar hangout.
But it's private.
So there's a lot we can do with a private space.
And we're hoping to have that up very, very soon because it's actually really, really easy to do.
All we got to do is order the stuff and put it in there and then have someone open the door and y'all can come hang out.
Going to be super exciting.
The coffee shop.
There's a lot of construction that has to happen.
So that's taking forever.
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