Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #917 GOP DEBATE LIVE Commentary, Trump Will Go FULL DICTATOR For one Day w/Tom Sauer

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Tim, Ian, Hannah Claire, & Serge join Tom Sauer to watch & analyze the GOP debate in a special episode of Timcast IRL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:01:08 As much as we like the guy and as much as a lot of us have routinely praised Ron DeSantis' leadership in Florida, none of these guys are going to be president. But I think it's still worth listening to what they have to say and then probably making fun of a lot of it or agreeing with some of it. You know, credit where credit's due. I don't know what Chris Christie is still doing here, but whatever. Fine if he wants to be there. There is a bunch of news that might come up.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Donald Trump basically said he'll be dictator for one day, just one day. And that was pretty funny. Joe Biden just canceled a whole lot more student debt, so we'll try to go quick because the debate is starting now. Before we get started, head over to castbrew.com to buy the best cup of coffee you'll ever have. Castbrew is our company. It's how we
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Starting point is 00:02:37 Hey, such a pleasure to be back here with you guys. Total honor. Really enjoy it. So I'm a Navy Marine Corps Special Operations Veteran, and I run a company that serves exclusively veterans for mental health and addiction treatment. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So I was in town on the hill advocating for all the guys and gals who are really seeking help. But obviously, having a good time. Debate is beginning.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Enjoying this. Let's go. We got Hannah Clare. Hell yeah. I'm Hannah Clare. I'm a writer for SCNR.com. Otherwise known as Scanner. I have my crystals and I'm Ian Crosslandland what's happening and i'm serge.com and uh let's get right to it let the debate begin and we are live on news nation and the cw
Starting point is 00:03:16 oh the cw is make or break time for the candidates i would love it if they had like an arrowverse cameo primary starting just weeks away and we have a lot to cover over the next two hours. Ron looks tall. Yeah, I was looking at his shoes. He looks taller. It's good for him. The candidates will have 90 seconds. Oh, look it.
Starting point is 00:03:32 He's wearing them. He's wearing them again. He looks good. You can see his boots. You can see his boots. You will all see the timing lights. Will indicate when time is up. Black and white.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Oh, he does not look good, man. Wow. The time we have is look good, man. Wow. And the time we have is critical over the next two hours. So we ask the audience to please keep your applause to a minimum. Excellent. All right. With that, let's get started. Is that Megyn Kelly?
Starting point is 00:03:55 On stage tonight. Why is Chris Christie still here? Four candidates. Chris Crisco. Because he's wealthy. I don't know Chris Crisco. And given the state of affairs in our political system right now. Yes, he is large.
Starting point is 00:04:03 One of you might very well do it. Even many Democrats now admit that President Biden is a weak candidate. Just as many Republicans acknowledge that former President Donald Trump's multiple legal troubles could imperil his quest for a second term. All of which means one of you could wind up the leader of the free world. Having said that, Mr. Trump is nearly 50 points ahead of all of us. 29 points ahead in Iowa, where the GOP caucuses are less than six weeks away. And so, as Republicans get ready to vote on whether any of you might be preferable to Mr. Trump,
Starting point is 00:04:42 we begin with the question of electability. Governor DeSantis, your campaign and its super PAC have spent the most money, had the most high net worth donors, and had a wave of momentum coming into this race after your big re-election win in Florida. You were seen by many as the candidate most likely to consolidate the non-Trump field.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But here we are, a month out from the first real votes. Smile, bro. And you haven't managed to do it. They tried that. You saw it, right? He got roasted over smiling. In fact, Nikki Haley is beating you in New Hampshire and South Carolina now and closing in on you in Iowa.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Not to mention Trump, who is not only dominating in the early states, but is beating you in Florida by over 30 points. Jeez, just laying on him. What would you say a Senator Tim Scott did when he dropped out, that voters are telling you, not no, but not now. Only Rosie McDonald. So we have a great idea in America that the voters actually make these decisions, not pundits or pollsters.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm sick of hearing about these decisions. That was them. In November of 2022, they said there was them. Yeah, that was them. In November of 2022. They said there was going to be a big red wave. It was going to be monumental. And that crashed and burned. The one place it didn't crash and burn was in the state of Florida. They weren't predicting that I would win the way I did.
Starting point is 00:05:57 And I won the greatest Republican victory in the history of the state of Florida. I'm looking forward to Iowa and New Hampshire. The voters are going to be able to speak and we're going to earn this nomination. And here's what we need. I am sick of Republicans who are not willing to stand up and fight back against what the left is doing to this country. You've got to be willing to stand strong and you've got to be willing to beat these people. I'm the only one running for president that has beaten these people on issue after issue. We beat the teachers unions when we did school choice. We beat Fauci on COVID. We beat George Soros when we removed two of his radical district attorneys. We beat the Democrats
Starting point is 00:06:36 on election integrity. I have delivered results. That's what we need for this country. And you have other candidates. State governor Nikki Haley. She caves any time the left comes after her, any time the media comes after her. I did a bill in Florida to stop the gender mutilation of minors. It's child abuse, and it's wrong. She opposes that bill.
Starting point is 00:06:56 She thinks it's fine, and the law shouldn't get involved with this. If you're not willing to stand up for the kids, if you're not willing to stand up and say that it is wrong to mutilate these kids, then you're not going to fight for the people. He's in trouble now because he can never take them off. I will fight for you and I will win for you. He would drop three inches overnight on TV.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Ambassador Haley, you left government service in 2018 with just $100,000 in the bank. Five years later, you're reportedly worth $8 million thanks to lucrative corporate speeches and board memberships like you had with Boeing. Weeks ago, you met with Wall Street heavyweights, including leaders from J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and BlackRock. Several other billionaire investors
Starting point is 00:07:38 are reportedly ready to endorse you, or recently have, all of which comes with expectations. Aren't you too tight with the banks and the billionaires to win over the GOP's working class base, which mostly wants to break the system, not elect someone beholden to it? If she said yes, I might actually consider it. Well, thank you. It's great to be here.
Starting point is 00:07:57 First, I'll tell you, just to respond to Ron, he continues to lie about my record. I actually said his don't take a bill didn't go far enough because it only talked about gender until the third grade. And I said it shouldn't be done at all. It's not a terrible move, to be honest. And they're like, oh, she's worth $7 million now. It's like, that's pretty weak, actually. If you're like a governor and ambassador and like, oh, I don't book you.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You only made $7 million. That's kind of weak for, you know, come on. I was a Tea Party candidate when I became governor. Because it was popular. We opposed every single corporate bailout we possibly could. We passed tort reform. We passed one of the toughest illegal immigration laws in the country. We passed pro-life bills.
Starting point is 00:08:35 We moved in unemployment from 11% to 3%. We took on the unions, and we took on Obama. When it came to the unions, the Syrian refugees and everything in between. This is a horrible question. I actually am really impressed with Ron DeSantis so far. That's not true. Because standing in those heels is probably really hard. But it's true.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It stretches your calves. I don't ask them what their policies are. They got like a whiny sound. They ask me what my policies are. And I tell them what it is. Sometimes they agree with me. Sometimes they don't. Some don't like how tough I am.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Trump is like a schoolyard bully who's like ganging up on someone else with his buddies behind him going like, look at that fat cow over there. She's so fat. Yeah, everyone loves it. That's who I am. And that's why she just doesn't give presidential to me. The most conservative grassroots group in the country, Americans for Prosperity, endorse me. She gives ex-wife
Starting point is 00:09:20 to me. She's going to replace wife to me. She didn't respond to the criticism. She's going to replace Jill Brand as America's ex-wife. It was about prohibiting sex change operations on minors. They do puberty blockers. These are irreversible.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Talk to Chloe Cole. She went through this. Now she's an adult. She's warning against it. She may never be able to have kids again. That is what Nikki Haley opposed. She said the law shouldn't get involved in that. Which is wild, by the way. When she waffled on that, like, what the hell? I mean, his campaign has totally coached him.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I don't think the field is narrow. That is the truth. But Haley, like, did not give an unequivocal answer on this. I said that if you have to be 18 to get a tattoo, you should have to be 18 to have a tattoo, you should have to be 18 to have anything done to change your gender. You said the law should stay out of it. No, she said it was like up to
Starting point is 00:10:12 the parents. And it's like, no, actually, no. No, it's not. You shouldn't be a parent for that one. Sorry. Coming back to this issue. You don't get to mutilate your kid. For months, you campaigned as a unifier. Then you stood up at the first debate and attacked all of your competitors as bought and paid for. The second debate, you changed your tune, saying, these are good as a unifier. Then you stood up at the first debate and attacked all of your competitors as bought
Starting point is 00:10:25 and paid for. The second debate, you changed your tune saying, these are good people on this stage, admitting you can come across as a bit of a know-it-all and rejecting the practice of personal insults. By debate number three, you called Nikki Haley corrupt, accused Ron DeSantis of wearing high heels and told her that she should keep a closer eye on her daughter. He smiles! He's not wrong. He's like, yeah, Ann. He's like, that was funny. Ann? check, watch as a dealer hosts your table game, and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over
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Starting point is 00:11:35 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. To question your authenticity. Megan, I think there's a time and place for everything. We need somebody in the White House who absolutely is going to be a fighter when it counts. And I did say that there were some good people on that stage in that third debate. Doug Burgum was on that stage at that time. Yeah, Burgumania. Jokingly, Rhonda Sands is a good person too. I want to go back
Starting point is 00:12:03 though to Nikki Haley's comment from earlier that she is somehow not responding to the will of these donors. Nikki, you were bankrupt when you left the U.N. After you left the U.N., you became a military contractor. You actually started joining service on the board of Boeing, whose back you scratched for a very long time, and then gave foreign multinational speeches like Hillary Clinton is, and now you're a multi-millionaire. That math does not add up. Hillary Clinton compares it.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And when I said they were bought and paid for, I meant the Republican establishment. Not the Democratic establishment. She does not like him. Now you have Reid Hoffman, the person who's effectively George Soros Jr., funding lawsuits across this country against Donald Trump to keep him off the ballot, funding left-wing causes, who's effectively George Soros Jr., funding lawsuits across this country
Starting point is 00:12:45 against Donald Trump to keep him off the ballot, funding left-wing causes. We discover this week that he is one of Nikki Haley's largest supporters. Larry Fink, the king of the woke industrial complex, the ESG movement, the CEO of BlackRock, now supporting Nikki Haley. And saying that this is a factor is false, because it's after
Starting point is 00:13:05 that meeting later that day that she says that every american needs to be doxed by having their id their government issued id tied to what they say on the internet so i think that this is far more corrupt than i even imagined when i entered politics but i will say this. It is going to take a leader from the outside with fresh legs from the next generation to unite this country. Not the broken politicians who are puppets of the puppet masters, but the actual people in this country.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Thomas Jefferson was 30 when he wrote the Declaration of Independence. I think it's going to take somebody whose best days in life are still ahead to see a country whose best days are ahead of itself. And I think I can reach that next generation better than anybody else in this race. On this stage, I'm the vague all day. All day.
Starting point is 00:13:54 He always can outperform everybody verbally. He answered perfectly. First of all, we weren't bankrupt when I left the U.N. We're people of service. My husband is in the military military and I served our country as UN ambassador and governor. It may be bankrupt to him, but it certainly wasn't bankrupt to us. Secondly, I did serve on the board of Boeing. I did a lot of work with Boeing when I was governor. They were a great partner to me. I served for 10 months. And then when they decided after COVID
Starting point is 00:14:21 that they wanted to go for a corporate bailout. I've never supported corporate bailout. So I respectfully stepped back and got off the board. I love Boeing. They build good commercial airplanes. They build airplanes for our Air Force. I am proud of them. They employ a lot of people in South Carolina, but that's why I left the Boeing board. There's nothing to what he's saying. And in terms of these donors that are supporting me they're just jealous they wish that they were supporting them but i'm not gonna say they just want to date me they're just jealous because they got the sweet book talking about esg and these woke corporations in blackrock the idea that i want to do that in florida they were managing our pinch part of our pension and then when they did the ESG, I took $2 billion away from BlackRock.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We took action. This ESG... Why is the camera shaking? The camera doesn't agree. Yeah, it doesn't agree. And again, Nikki is meeting with all these people. He shook his head yes, and the camera went no. They want to use economic power to impose a left-wing agenda on this country. They want basically to change society without having to go through the constitutional process. We've kneecapped it in the state of Florida. The next president of the United States needs to be able to go to that office on day one and end ESG. And the fact of the matter is, we know from her history, Nikki will cave to those big donors when it counts. Ron's 100% right.
Starting point is 00:15:37 100% right. I didn't write that book. Quick, quick, quick. I didn't write that book, Ron. And the irony is, Nikki Haley was heaping praise on me when I wrote that book. Chris Christie has not even said anything yet. I didn't write that book, Ron. And the irony is Nikki Haley was heaping praise on me when I wrote that book. But now I worry. I was warning about the woke industrial complex in this country.
Starting point is 00:15:50 My wife just texted me saying this looks like Mystery Science Theater 3000. You know, we're just like watching and commenting. Far more dangerous than that. It's really important for people to understand. Great show. We're marching towards fascism under Biden. Jack Smith has subpoenaed every last retweet that someone has issued from Donald Trump in the year 2020. The only person more fascist than the Biden regime now is Nikki Haley, who thinks the government should identify every one of those individuals with an ID. That is not freedom.
Starting point is 00:16:21 That is fascism. And she should come nowhere near the levers of power, let alone the White House. I've got to get to Governor Christie. Too heavy-handed. Can you speak? How are you doing, sir? Good to see you. Can you please speak to the requirement that you said that every citizen needs to out themselves?
Starting point is 00:16:39 I would be happy to, and I love all the attention, fellas. Thank you for that. You know, I'll say this. What I said was that social media companies need to show us their algorithms. I also said there are millions of bots on social media right now. They're foreign, they're Chinese, they're Iranian. I will always fight for freedom of speech for Americans. We do not need freedom of speech for Russians and Iranians and Hamas.
Starting point is 00:17:06 We need social media companies to go and fight back on all of these thoughts that are happening. That's what I said. As a mom, do I think that social media would be more civil if we went and had people's names next to that? Yes, I do think that because I think we've got too much cyberbullying. I think we've got child pornography and all of those things. But having said that, I never said government should go and require anyone's name. That's false.
Starting point is 00:17:31 She said, I want your name. She absolutely said these two are agreeing. They should high five right now. I said we were going to get the millions of bots. That's what she said. That's what you're saying. She should play the tape. That'd be she said. You can roll the tape.
Starting point is 00:17:45 She should play the tape. That'd be cool. I actually really love the vague Ron Timo. It's funny. I want Chris to join in. Why would you? Understandably so, because it'd be a massive expansion of government. We have anonymous speech.
Starting point is 00:17:57 She actually did say it. I'm just saying. He's going to bring up a stool and sit down. They're never going to get to his intro. Pulls out a donut. Like Gidoro. Can we make Nikki Haley as America's ex-wife? Can we make that a thing? Because it's just like...
Starting point is 00:18:11 That means we've got to get married to her first. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. She's a massive ex-wife. So I have to say... Come on. You're going to give me 15 seconds, and then there is the former governor. Because Ron is so hypocritical.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Because he actually went and tried to push a law that would stop anonymous people from talking to the press. And went so far to say bloggers should have to register with the state if they're going to talk about, write about elected officials. It was in the, check your newspaper. That's a gross, gross mischaracterization. I have never said government should have to trample on your constitutional rights. You can come back to it later. This is more dangerous than the Democrats. You're lying.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I love the vague defending rise. That was awesome. Just that piece. I'm usually not somebody who gets missed, but okay, let's go. That's not true, 2%. He's making a comment about his weight. You endorsed Donald Trump in 2016 and 2020. You gave him an A for his first term.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Since then, however, you've turned on him. I ran into him at the airport in person in Newark. He is a large man. You even said that you got into this race just to stop President Trump. Oh, you're big. His approval rating with Republicans is currently at 81%. Yours is at 25.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Your best state is New Hampshire, and even there, two-thirds of GOP voters say they would be angry and disappointed if you won you have not stopped mr trump yeah that was ice cold may wonder how you could she's got some great questions of a party that does not appear to like you very much does not appear to like you look megan um it's often very difficult to be the only person on the stage who's telling the truth and the only person who is taking on what needs to be taken on. I look at my watch now.
Starting point is 00:19:49 We're 17 minutes into this debate. I haven't spoken before this. Except for your little speech in the beginning. We've had these three acting as if the race is between the four of us. The fifth guy, who doesn't have the guts to show up and stand. Oh, there we go. He's the one who, as you just put it, is way ahead in the polls. Why does he need to be there?
Starting point is 00:20:15 And yet, I've got these three guys who are all seemingly to compete with, you know, Voldemort. He shall not be named. They don't want to talk about it. He just gave him power. He just helped Trump. You go and you say the truth about somebody who is a dictator, a bully, who has taken shots at everybody. Whether they've given a great service or not. Is he seriously saying I'm going to attack the most popular Republican right now and that's going to make me win? Who I endorsed in 2016. How is he going to win a primary if Trump's pulling at like 60 to 70 percent and he's trashing the guy?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Maybe those future aspirations are now or maybe they're four years from now. But the fact of the matter is the truth needs to be told. And for us to go 17 minutes without discussing the guy who has all those gaudy numbers you talked about is ridiculous. I'm in this race because the truth needs to be spoken. He is
Starting point is 00:21:00 unfit. This is a guy who just said this past week that he wants to use the Department of Justice to go after his enemies when he gets in there. He's dumb. You're all dumb for liking him. He is right for calling out the truth, which is that Trump is ultimately in control of the GOP
Starting point is 00:21:16 in this debate. I appreciate that. I just don't think his criticism actually helped him. No. He clapped for a minute. Stop clapping. Who's there? Do we know somebody who's there? Where are they currently at?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Nikki and Ron's and Christy's donors. You don't see either? They're in Alabama. I think they're in Huntsville. I want to text someone down there and be like, can you tell them to stop clapping? It's not normal people that are there. American troops and warships in the Middle East are under attack how far would you go as president to secure the release of those eight american hostages and would it include sending american forces into
Starting point is 00:21:55 combat yes we have to look out for our people when there are hostages commander in chief you have to do whatever you can to get them done but the overall issue with this is this administration is trying to hobble israel from being able to defend itself they have a right to eliminate hamas and win a total and complete victory so that they never have to deal with this again hamas wants nothing less than a second holocaust they would wipe off every single jew yeah i'd love it would destroy the state of israel someone would just answer the questions joe biden will say they support israel and then they do nothing but try to would wipe off every single Jew off the map. They would destroy the state of Israel if we could. Joe Biden will say they support Israel, and then they do nothing but try to kneecap them every step of the way. You should not try to direct their war effort. You should work together with
Starting point is 00:22:35 them so that they can bring Hamas to heel. Look, I served in Iraq back in the day. I'm the only one running for president that served in the military. I understand that part of the world. It's not the best part of the world. We do have troops there that Biden is leaving basically as sitting ducks. And you have the Iranians that are attacking these troops. And he's responding with basically pinpricks. You harm an American service member, you're going to have hell to pay when I'm president. We are not going to let our troops be sitting ducks. We also need to look at what's the underlying problem here. Iran. Biden is doing nothing to bring Iran to account. You got to turn the screws on them. Don't let them have any oil revenue. They send to Hamas, they send to Hezbollah, and they foment jihad throughout the Middle East. So Biden has empowered Iran just like he's empowered other adversaries. We stand
Starting point is 00:23:26 with Israel. They're our best ally in the Middle East. We have a unique relationship with them. And you will see a strong relationship when I'm the president of the United States. But would you send American troops? This is the problem with the first three debates. Ron gets asked a question and he doesn't answer it. Your question was very specific. You said, would you send American troops as commander in chief? And he went on to this 30 second persona about his knowledge of the military and what we need to do and didn't answer your question. When you're president of the United States, you're not going to have a choice whether to answer that question or not.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Your generals, your secretary of defense, your secretary of state, your national security advisor are going to present plans to you. They're going to look at you and say, do we go or don't we, Mr. President? And you can't give a 90-second speech about your military service, as laudable as it is. Would you send American troops in to rescue those hostages? I would absolutely, absolutely. That's a terrible idea. If they had a plan which showed me that we could get them out safely, you're damn right I'd send the American people in there. I'll take a real answer over a non-answer.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, it conveys more confidence. Yeah, but he gave a caveat if they had a real plan. Thank you, Graham. That would not go well. It's not a good idea, so we can debate it. Here, wait. You have said it was irresponsible for Ambassador Haley to call Hamas's terrorist rampage an attack on America and for her to, quote, rabidly shout, finish them, end quote.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Rabidly? The Hamas terror attack left dozens of Americans dead and was the deadliest attack on Jews since the Holocaust. Why wouldn't it be a good thing to finish Hamas? Finish them was purposefully vague in a discussion that included Iran, which is what I objected to. And I think as U.S. president, you have to be responsible. What happened to Israel was dead wrong. What Hamas did was medieval. It was subhuman. It was immoral. And we have to call that out for what it is. Not a strong hand gesture. But to say that that was an attack on America
Starting point is 00:25:21 fails a basic test. I mean, Nick, if you can't tell the difference between where Israel is and the U.S. is on a map, I can have my three-year-old son show you the difference. That is irresponsible because it has major consequences. Also, he's just beating up Haley tonight. Well, because she's passing on the polls. So I believe I have the strongest pro-Israel position actually on the stage, even though it's a little bit different than the standard GOP talking points. And it is this.
Starting point is 00:25:44 No laughing. The founding vision of Israel. David Ben-Gurion, the George Washington figure of Israel. What did he believe? He believed that we don't want as Israel to depend on the fleeting sympathies of the West and have our hands tied. I think Israel has an absolute right to defend itself to the fullest without the U.S., the U.N. or the E.U., or anybody else second-guessing their decisions. As the Biden administration, guess what, is now starting to do? I think that's a more deeply pro-Israel position than anybody else. And it keeps the actual lines of accountability clear because it is a pro-American position. And as leader of the United States of America,
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Starting point is 00:27:15 charge betmgm operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming ontario my sole moral duty is to you the people of this country that's how i'm going to lead so i'll tell is to you, the people of this country. That's how I'm going to lead. So I'll tell Bibi, you smoke the terrorists on your southern border. You go ahead and we're rooting for you. We're going to smoke the terrorists on our own southern border. And that's how I'm going to lead this country. But Americans were killed in that attack.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Americans were killed in that attack. And so if you looked at this terrorist attack and the number of Americans, this would be one of the top 10 terrorist attacks in American history. So our own people were killed in that attack. And I think it's absolutely appropriate to point that out and to say that we're in this together and we are going to work with Israel so that these people are brought to justice. I agree with that. Ambassador Haley, I'm coming to you. Iran is on the threshold of becoming a nuclear state. The Wall Street Journal reported that Iranian military leaders gave the green light for Hamas's attack on Israel.
Starting point is 00:28:13 You said in last month's debate that by contrast to the Biden administration's approach to Iran, you would, quote, punch them once and punch them hard. Were you saying that it's time to bomb Iran? No, I was not saying it's time to bomb Iran, but I will tell you, I dealt with Iran every day when I was at the United Nations, and they only respond to strength. What they don't respond to is when you weaken the sanctions like they did on Iran that allowed China to send them billions to fill their proxies. What they don't respond to is when you give $6 billion for five hostages. That only makes them want more hostages. What they don't respond to is when they do 140 strikes on our men and women in Syria and Iraq, and we do nothing but just some small shots back. You've got to punch them. You've got to punch them hard and let them know that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That's the only way they're going to respond. So the way you do that is you go after their infrastructure in Syria and Iraq where they're hitting our soldiers. That's what you do. And then that's when they'll back off. The problem is you have to see that all of these are related. If you look at the fact, Russia was losing that war with Ukraine. Putin had hit rock bottom. They had raised the draft age to 65. He was getting drones and missiles, drones from Iran, missiles from North Korea. And so what happened? When he hit rock bottom, all of a sudden, his other friend, Iran, Hamas goes and invades Israel and butchers those people on Putin's birthday. Oh, please. There is no one happier right now than Putin.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Okay, here we go. We've got a super chat. It's from Dustin Trussell. If Chris Christie devoured Nikki Haley live on got, I got a, okay, here we go. We've got, we got a super chat. Okay. Dustin Trussell said, if Chris Christie devoured Nikki Haley live on stage, I would vote for him. That'd be a good cartoon. Seamus, you listening?
Starting point is 00:29:50 At this point, I have to agree because she's just talking so much garbage. There is a reason, again, that Taiwanese want to help Ukrainians because they know if Ukraine wins, China won't invade Taiwan. There's a reason the Ukrainians want to help Israelis, because they know that if Iran wins, Russia wins. These are all connected. But what wins all of that is a strong America, not a weak America.
Starting point is 00:30:12 She's basically like, we have to have war because everybody is bad all the time. Foreign policy experience is not the same as foreign policy wisdom. I want everybody in the room to know that I was the first person to say we need a reasonable peace deal in Ukraine. Now a lot of the neocons are quietly coming along to that position with the exceptions of Nikki Haley and Joe Biden who still support this, what I believe is pointless war in Ukraine. And I think those with foreign policy experience, one thing that Joe Biden and Nikki Haley have in common is that neither of them could even state for you three provinces in eastern ukraine that they want to send look at that this is what i want people to understand these people have i mean she has no
Starting point is 00:30:55 idea Got him, coach. No, she can't even name. They're called Oblasts, by the way. Thank you. Makes eight million bucks after. Has real foreign policy experience. It takes an outsider to see this through. Look at the blank expression. She doesn't make any sense. Literally eating her life.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That was nuts. Enough. Enough. Chris Christie's moderating. Thank you. You know, his reasonable peace deal in Ukraine, he made it clear. Give them all the land they've already stolen. Promise Putin you'll never put Ukraine in Russia.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And then trust Putin not to have a relationship with China. Let me tell you something. That's not my deal. Yes, it's exactly what you said every debate You okay you say You go out on the stump and you say something all of us see it on video We confront you on the debate stage you say you didn't say it, and then you back away. And I want to say what? I'm not done yet.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That's actually Chris' idea. I think Chris misspoke when he said put Ukraine in Russia. The fourth debate that you were voting in the first 20 minutes as the most obnoxious blowhard in America. So shut up for a little while. I'm going to respond to that.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Chris, you're pushing it. We're going to let you respond to that. I'm going to respond to that. Chris, you're version of me. We're going to let you respond to that. We're going to let you respond to that. I'm going to say something else. We're now 25 minutes into this debate, and he has insulted Nikki Haley's basic intelligence. Not her positions, her basic intelligence.
Starting point is 00:32:42 No, she doesn't know regions. She wouldn't be able to find that his three-year-old information, not intelligence, is very fine. And Nikki and I disagree on some issues. But I'll tell you this, I've known her for 12 years, which is longer than he's even
Starting point is 00:32:57 started to vote in a Republican primary. That's not a debate. I can't stay in the audience. They're all donors, bro. They're all donors, bro. They're Republican donors, man. We don't disagree on this. This is a smart, accomplished woman. You should stop insulting her.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So I'm going to take this. I'm going to take several times over. White-nighting for Nikki. No longer watching Chris go. We learned three things right there. First of all, Chris Christie also doesn't know what provinces in eastern Ukraine he actually wants us to fight for. He has a foreign policy experience. Ron is laughing at that.
Starting point is 00:33:32 He was closing a bridge from New Jersey to New York. So do everybody a favor. Just walk yourself off that stage. Enjoy a nice meal. And get the hell out of this race. Whoa! I think if you're going to actually send your sons and daughters to go die in somebody else's war, you better, excuse me, Chris, I'm speaking and I'm not done yet. You had your
Starting point is 00:33:51 chance and we're going to be done. So listen up to this. If these people want to send your sons and daughters to go die in Ukraine, they've been arguing for it for a year. $200 billion of our taxpayer money sent over. Neither of them could even name for you the provinces that they actually want to protect and this is the people who have been touting their so-called foreign policy experience it is intellectual fraud these people are lying to you the same people who told you about weapons and mass destruction in iraq to justify that invasion didn't know the first thing about it yet they sent thousands of our sons and stop stop he's already dead holy shit other points seven trillion of our national debt due to these toxic
Starting point is 00:34:33 metal primary saying but there is a moment still a fascist Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. Dick Cheney all over again in this one. Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. 15 seconds. He's pouring gas on the stage, dude. Wow. Name the provinces. Neither of you could even imagine. Mr. Ramaswamy. Thank you. He got him with that one, dude. Let me just say this.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's not Crimea. That's not the one they're talking about. All right. The floor is Christie's. All right. Let me just say this. You know, this is the kind of thing where he talks about experience. You know, I was the U.S. attorney in New Jersey when the terrorist attacks were launched against the United States in 2001.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I brought the two, first two cases in this country against terrorists who tried to attack us again. And I know about the threat of terrorism and bullying. Remember 9-11 argument doesn't work when you have a large voter base, younger voters, who were not, who were little children or not even alive. I was 20. I was a Marine, an active duty guy, but like I was 20, dude. I was a kid. But even like, but you remember it. I was 14. But there are actual voters right now.
Starting point is 00:35:44 We're even alive. We were born after. Yeah. He's insulted good people who have committed their lives to public service and not say anything that moves the ball down the field for the United States. All right. Thank you, Governor Christie. I hate the term public service. Sorry, if you're an elected official, you're not a public servant. She said Crimea.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And that's funny because... Crimea's been in Russia for a long time. That's not what's in contention right now. Right, right, right. And so Vivek, I think he absolutely nailed them with that question. Which provinces do you actually want to defend? Well, they're called Oblasts. They're administrative regions.
Starting point is 00:36:18 And they're basically just named after their cities. But everyone knows Donetsk and Luhansk. Those are the principal in the Donbass region. And then I guess the argument would be Kharkiv and Kiev, which is where Russian forces attacked through Belarus. Crimea, they want to liberate, not defend,
Starting point is 00:36:34 but I don't want to be too pedantic. Nikki Haley, I don't know how she got those answers. Someone rushed, you know, did she check her phone, look down and be like, because you see the look on her face when he asks. She is waiting for the moderators to be like and now you speak and that's not the game vivek is playing that's not the game to a certain extent desantis is playing like he said it she didn't even realize the camera is on her so she's staring blankly yeah because
Starting point is 00:36:55 she's listening to someone who's standing over there maybe she doesn't know the regions maybe she doesn't but it was perfectly teed up by ramaswami she was not quick enough to respond i think the fact that she said Crimea shows she doesn't know what she's talking about. She doesn't. And it took her like five minutes to get to it, right? She could have said it immediately. Instead, she was flustered by being called out like that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Crimea's been for a decade under the control of Russia. And in Sevastopol, the Russians have already been there well before that with their naval base. So maybe you can argue she didn't understand what exactly he meant and she was interpreting us but i'm not playing that game yeah she immediately called her out and if it were me i'd be like it look first of all i don't actually care that much about ukraine my my whole position is more along with the wake of we should not be uh sending troops over there and and fortifying this but immediately i was like wait
Starting point is 00:37:43 i'm like uh donetsk and Luhansk. Like that's the news. Yeah. I can name those two right now. Now. And then as you can be present to Tim. Yeah. The one thing I'm not sure of is I know those are the names of the regions, but I fact checked
Starting point is 00:37:56 they're basically the names of the cities. So Kharkiv, Kiev, those are also the names of the Belgorod, Dnipro. I'm reading them off a map. Zaporizhia, et cetera. Crimea. Well, the funny thing is, if you think about it right so it's like you know we pull out of afghanistan in the most horrible way surrender yeah i you know like my buddy who came with me here who's you know downstairs right now like he was up like got no sleep for weeks uh trying to get guys out right a lot of guys did
Starting point is 00:38:22 right trying to get guys out of there it was lot of guys did, right? Trying to get guys out of there. It was a total disaster. And then six months later, you know, all the, you know, the military-industrial complex, right? They needed new business, you know? So it's like business development. Like, what do you know, right? Six months later, we got a new war, more money, all that.
Starting point is 00:38:37 You know, like, I'm not trying to sound too conspiratorial, but, you know, it looks that way. Yeah, well, they split up the Soviet Union and they gave all that land to the Ukraine. Those oligarchs must have known it was going to cause contention
Starting point is 00:38:48 with Russia down the line not having access to the Black Sea. Ian, we don't call it the Ukraine. We call it Ukraine. It is borderland. Yeah, you're absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I'm no Eastern European Russian expert. Oh, good on ya. Right. It's like all of a sudden everyone has to say Kiev now instead of Kiev. You know, like, come on. We spelled Zelensky's name like
Starting point is 00:39:06 three different ways. Zelensky. How many Ys? Fewer Ys? Maybe more Ys? Seven Ys. I think it is worth noting that ultimately Christie was right that it's about Trump more than anything else. Of course. And it is interesting to watch the fighting. Like, I think Vivek is performing
Starting point is 00:39:22 well. You know, there's been interesting moments, but ultimately been interesting moments, but ultimately the question remains, how will anyone stand up if they were to debate Trump? They won't. It shows the two legitimate candidates is DeSantis and Ramaswamy. And then the other two are like war hawks that are just kind of on the trail,
Starting point is 00:39:38 but just big money. Yeah, 100%. And that's like, that's absolutely it. And honestly, like I was saying earlier, is like on that stage, on that stage, like, that's absolutely it. And honestly, like I was saying earlier, is like on that stage, on that stage, like Vivek's the guy. He's the guy, absolutely, for like normal folks. I think he has the charisma.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I mean, I think there are questions about his policies in some respects, but I think he always has been the most charismatic person in all of these debate performances. Again, he does have the occasional thing, you know, he said something like, I have a longer future than Donald Trump. He has he has sparred with Donald Trump very indirectly.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Sure. And again, I wonder what that would look like if they were up against each other. It's more anecdotal, but he's he's humble in the sense that he was willing to come in and do this interview when Tim was out of town. Yeah. And so I interviewed Hannah Clare interviewed with Seamus Coughlin. And hold on. It's worse than that. We had a miscommunication here about who was contacting his team to let him know that I was at a doctor's appointment, not going to be in town. And so they found out really late, and Vivek was super cool. He's like, no, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I get it, man. These things happen. Indication to me, he will listen to his advisors. Like, that's a huge, important thing for a leader. Absolutely. But also the fact that, like, he'll go talk anywhere. He'll go, like, I mean, obviously, this is a huge show. Here we go, we're back. Huge show, but also the fact that he'll go talk anywhere. He'll go, I mean, obviously this is a huge show. Here we go, we're back.
Starting point is 00:40:47 But it's like, he goes on all the podcasts. It's great. Nikki does not. Polls show immigration and the crisis are among the most pressing issues for Republican voters right now. Both the issue of migrants crossing illegally into our country and the separate issue of fentanyl
Starting point is 00:41:03 being smuggled in, mostly through legal ports of entry. All year, NewsNation has been at the border documenting the crisis. In 2023 alone, Border Patrol encountered a record 2.4 million migrants. All four of you have talked tough. The question now is, how realistic is the talk? So, Governor DeSantis, I'd like to start with you. You have pledged to send the military to the southern border on day one of your administration
Starting point is 00:41:31 with orders to shoot, quote, stone-cold dead. He does, dude. Anyone illegally entering with a backpack that you believe contains fentanyl. Critics have called this a shoot-first-ask-questions- questions later policy that would amount to extra judicial killing. You are a former military lawyer. Why do you think this idea of yours would be legal? The drug cartels are invading our country and they are killing our citizens by the tens of thousands every year. We had a situation in Florida.
Starting point is 00:42:01 There was an 18-month-old baby that was crawling on the floor of an Airbnb rental. There was fentanyl residue on the carpet, and the baby died. Is this acceptable in this country? I know the elites in D.C. They don't care. They don't care that fentanyl is ravaging your community. They don't care that illegal aliens are ravaging our community and overwhelming our community. The commander-in-chief not only has a right.
Starting point is 00:42:24 You have a responsibility to fight back against these people. And does that mean shooting first? our community and overwhelming our community, the commander-in-chief not only has a right, you have a responsibility to fight back against these people. And does that mean shooting first? It means you're going to categorize them as foreign terrorist organizations, and we will identify just like we would anywhere. When I was in Iraq, the Al-Qaeda wasn't wearing a uniform. You'd see anyone walking down the street. They all had man dresses on. You didn't know if someone had a bomb, an IED attached or not. And so you had to make a judgment based on intelligence, based on positive identification.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But we're going to be able to get the intelligence on these cartel people. And here's the thing. If we had a wall across the southern border, which I support, this would not have happened. We need to build a wall across the southern border. I'll get it done and I'll make for Mexico is supposed to pay for it. Remember, here's how you do that. I am going to have fees on remittances from foreign workers when they send the money back to foreign countries. We're going to tax it and we're going to build a wall with that. So yes, you should have had that, but we don't have it. I'm going to build it, but we have to lean in on
Starting point is 00:43:23 this problem. I am not going to sit there and allow mothers to lose more kids because of fentanyl overdose I am NOT gonna sit there and let sex trafficking go unabated or human trafficking go unabated There's gonna be a new sheriff in town and these drug cartels You have pledged to catch and deport all migrants who are here in this country illegally. Abort? Did she say abort? Then you said in Londonderry, New Hampshire last month that you will not deport those who are working and paying taxes rather than feeding off the system. She knows, too.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Which is it? So, first of all, what I said is all of the 7 or 8 million illegals that have come under Biden's watch absolutely have to go back. We have to stop the incentive of what's bringing them over here in the first place. Biden just gave temporary protective status to 500,000 Venezuelans. That's a half a million Social Security cards. That's a half a million driver's licenses. And I know from my time at the United Nations, the first thing they do is pick up the phone and said, we came over, come on over. And that's what sends more. You have to go and deport these people so they know it can't happen again.
Starting point is 00:44:33 For those that have been here longer than that, we've got to start seeing who is it, how long have they been here? Have they been vetted? Have they paid taxes? Have they been working? And figure out who else is out there. But what I know is my parents came here illegally. They put in the time, they put in the price. They are offended by those that are coming illegally. We can't let them skip the line. But when you talk about fentanyl like you did before, let's look at something else. Yes, I think we should send special operations over and take out the cartels. I think we should do a Remain in Mexico policy so they never step foot in U.S. soil in the first place. But look at where fentanyl came from. Let's go to the heart of the matter. It came from China.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That's why we need to end all normal trade relations with China until they stop murdering Americans with fentanyl. I promise you, they need our economy. They will immediately stop that. But this is where Trump went wrong. Trump was good on trade, but that's all he was with China. Because here he allowed fentanyl to continue to come over. He continued to allow them to take, he would give them technology that would build up their military and hurt us. He allowed the Chinese infiltration for them to buy up farmland, to put money in our universities, and to continue to do things that were harmful for America. We now have a spy base in
Starting point is 00:45:50 Cuba and police stations, and Trump didn't do anything about it. This is rich, because when she was governor of South Carolina, she was the number one ranked governor of bringing the CCP into her state. She wrote a love letter to the Chinese ambassador saying how great
Starting point is 00:46:05 a friend China is. You can look at it. We put it on our website, rondesantis.com. There's also a video of her as governor standing in front of a Chinese flag with a Chinese business saying that she now works for them, talking about this Chinese company. So she's been very weak on China. Now, here's the problem. The rhetoric is different but her donors these Wall Street liberal donors they make money in China they are not going to let her be tough on China and she will cave to the donors
Starting point is 00:46:34 she will not stand up for you not wrong I think Ron's actually doing really well first of all he's mad because those Wall Street donors used to support him and now they support me the second thing is you almost said that First of all, he's mad because those Wall Street donors used to support him and now they support me. The second thing is, you almost said that a Chinese company, Ugas, that he just did a rally there last year.
Starting point is 00:46:58 They have given you $340,000 in campaign donations between them and their employees. They are tied to the Communist Party. Jinko Solar is another one. They went and expanded. You gave $2 million in subsidies. I banned China from buying land in the state of Florida. I ejected the Confucius Institute. Nikki Haley brought Confucius Institutes
Starting point is 00:47:14 to the universities in South Carolina. That is not true. I ejected them. So I have a record of standing up and doing what's right. And here's the thing. You have a record of lying. She's trying to say things like that. Even the liberal media groups that, usually if I say the sky is blue, they'll fact check me and say that's wrong. They look at the charges. They said it was totally false that they could not find one instance of me recruiting a Chinese business coming to Florida.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You know why? Because we never recruited any Chinese businesses to the state of Florida. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Ramaswamy, over the past year, fentanyl has killed more than 75,000 Americans, 1,000 of them right here in Alabama. You have vowed to use the military to, quote, annihilate drug labs inside Mexico, something the president of Mexico said would be a hostile act.
Starting point is 00:47:57 But fentanyl can easily be made anywhere, and labs that are shut down can easily and quickly be replaced. Are your tough enforcement policies offering false hope to a country wracked by addiction? To the contrary, I don't think it's going to have to come to that if we deal with the actual demand side problem that we also have in this country. I mean, the easy part is talking about how we're going to use our military to secure the border. I will, and I believe that everybody else wants to do the same thing. But the harder part is dealing with the crisis of purpose and meaning, the mental health epidemic raging across this country like wildfire. And there's a reason why after the opioid crisis, you see fentanyl. And even after we get fentanyl, and we are going to be sure to make sure we do it, this one is worse for many reasons. They're
Starting point is 00:48:42 illegally lacing it into pharmaceuticals. So it's more dangerous. But we're deluding ourselves. The real false promise here is thinking that we're going to have dealt with that underlying mental health epidemic in this country by just dealing with the demand side of it. But I want to get back to this issue of the root cause, because a lot of these are coming from labs in Wuhan, China, of all places, drug materials that are going to the Mexican drug cartels that they're pumping across that southern border like a modern opium war.
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Starting point is 00:50:23 And the same country that's putting fentanyl into illegal pharmaceuticals in Mexico, it's no coincidence, is the exact same country that also unleashed hell on the world with the COVID-19 pandemic. We also have to hold them accountable with every financial lever that we have available. Thank you. That is what it actually means to stand with a spine. And you mark my words, if we're willing to stand with the spine, China will absolutely have to fold because they're in a tougher spot than we are. And then we're back to playing by the same set of rules.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. Thank you. Let's talk about the economy. Ambassador Haley. Chris Christie is just not here. Home ownership has always been part of the American dream, but it's increasingly out of reach for younger Americans. This year, mortgage rates reached 30-year highs. Home prices have risen $190,000 over the past decade.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Is this a free market at work? Or should the federal government do something to make homes more affordable? Well, first of all, you're exactly right. My daughter just got married, and I saw how hard it was for her and her husband to buy a home. Right now, the average homeowner in America is 49 years old. You've got young people everywhere. that money to go through. You saw the Treasury bond rates go up. That affected mortgage rates. That affected automobile rates. That affected insurance rates. And so now we have a high interest rate. You've got a supply issue. Ask any builder. The supply issues have continued to be there. That's caused the rate to go up. And then you've got insurances that have gone up. And so what you have is a lot of younger people who, one, can't afford a home, but two, the banks aren't lending them any money. They've made the regulations so hard that they don't want to give loans on mortgages anymore. So what we have to do is we have to open it up. We have to, one, grow our economy so that people
Starting point is 00:52:20 have more money in their pockets. We've got to look at the supply chain and make sure that we are funneling that so that builders don't have to sit there and go overseas to find things. And then we need to make sure that we really stop paying down this debt, make sure that we stop the borrowing, stop the spending. I'll veto any spending bill that doesn't take us back to pre-COVID levels because our kids are not going to forgive us for all the spending that happened. And as much as everybody wants to talk about how Donald Trump had a good economy, $9 trillion in debt, he did just in four years. And we're all paying the price of that, including those mortgage prices. Yeah, but a lot of that was COVID. We're going to come back to President Trump.
Starting point is 00:52:59 A lot of spending there. Governor DeSantis, the latest News Nation decision desk poll found that inflation tops the worries of American voters. 61% say they're very concerned and the working class is hard as shit. Economists say this is a glut of federal spending. The Biden administration has added $6 trillion to the national debt so far. But President Trump wasn't exactly a penny pincher. His administration added $7.8 trillion. Do Republicans, including President Trump,
Starting point is 00:53:31 share the blame for inflation? And what concrete steps would a President DeSantis take to help Americans make ends meet? But it's not shared equally. The borrowing, printing, and spending of money was both parties in Washington, D.C. That's just a fact. These Republicans in Washington have spent. It's driven your prices higher and it's driven your interest rates to
Starting point is 00:53:50 the point where you can't afford. I met a young fellow in Iowa. He had graduated college a couple years ago and he's like, Governor, I don't have a chance. I'm gainfully employed. He's like, I have no chance to afford a home and start a family. That is taking the American dream away from people. So we're going to get the inflation down. We're going to get the interest rates down. We are going to reduce spending and I will be willing to veto. And I vetoed a lot as governor of Florida and we'll do that. We're also going to open up all of our domestic energy for production, lower your gas prices, lower the price of fuel. That's going to help the economy. It also helped jobs and we'll do it. But you know, another thing that's burdening young people are the student loans. Now I don't support having a truck driver, having to pay a student
Starting point is 00:54:29 loan for someone that got a degree in gender studies. That is wrong. You should not have taxpayers do that. What I'm going to do though, is I'm going to get to the root cause of the problem. These student loans are going to be backed by the universities because they need to have an incentive to produce gainful and seize the endowments. They should not be indulging in ideological studies. They should be focusing on things that work. And we're going to take some of this money and we're going to move it to actual vocational training. In Florida, we doubled apprenticeships. We have more truck drivers. These are in-demand skills. Don't let anybody tell you that the only way you can be successful is through a four-year
Starting point is 00:55:04 brick and ivy degree. That's one way you can be. It's not the only way, and we're going to fix that problem in the United States of America. Mr. Ramaswamy, you praise cryptocurrency like Bitcoin as an opt-out from our, quote, broken financial architecture, and you oppose efforts to regulate it. Wait for Christie's break-in to be like, hey guys, I'm still here. architecture, and you oppose efforts to regulate it. Wait for Chris to just break in and be like, hey guys, I'm still here. No, he's just going to leave something. Yeah, it'd be great. He's like, it cuts back and he's gone. He'll remind us of the time.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You say your cryptocurrency plan will, quote, ensure economic freedom for Americans, end quote. Won't it also ensure economic freedom for fraudsters, criminals, and terrorists? I did not know. I did not know. Good question. Fraudsters, criminals, and terrorists have been defrauding people for a long time.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Our regulations need to catch up with the current moment. The fact that SBF was able to do what he did at FTX shows that whatever they have as the current framework isn't working. And I think it is nothing short of embarrassing that Gary Gensler, the current leader of the SEC, in front of Congress, could not even say whether Ethereum counted as a regulated security or not. And so I think that this is just another example of the administrative state gone too far. Here's the dirty little secret in American politics today. The people who we elect to run the government are not the ones who are even actually. What are they not doing? Tell me. They're writing regulations that Congress never gave them the authority to write. And the good
Starting point is 00:56:33 news is a U.S. president can absolutely fix that. That takes a U.S. president with a spine. So what I've said is in my administration, by the end of year one, we will have a 75% reduction in the number of federal bureaucrats. We will shut down government agencies that should not exist. I am okay with this. We will rescind any regulation that fails the test of West Virginia versus EPA, which is the most important Supreme Court case of our lifetime. That said, if Congress didn't delegate that to an administrative agency, then it's unconstitutional. These are seismic changes. I don't know much about that. I'd like to learn more about that. These are big changes that the next president can deliver without asking Congress for permission
Starting point is 00:57:13 or for forgiveness. And I want people to understand that distinction because people have been sold myths by politicians for a long time saying, I'm going to work with Congress to do this or that. Much of what you've heard on the stage from the other politicians fit that description, they need Congress. The things that I'm promising you, this is what the leader of the executive branch gets to do under Article 2 of the Constitution. Thank you, sir. Cut down the bureaucracy. Cutting the federal government like that is tumultuous and difficult. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Mr. Omoswami, you're out of time. It'll be painful. One of the dangers that we're going to face him. It'll be painful, but it needs to happen. One of the dangers that we're going to face, Biden wants, is a central bank digital currency. They want to get rid of cash, crypto. They want to force you to do that. They'll take away your privacy. They will absolutely regulate your purchases.
Starting point is 00:57:56 On day one as president, we take the idea of central bank digital currency, and we throw it in the trash can. It'll be dead on arrival. I want to know if anybody is live timing how much time they're getting. We're going to have a whole second hour to get to it in the trash can. It'll be dead on a rock. I don't know if anybody is live timing how much time they're getting. We have a whole second hour to get to. It's exciting. And when we come back, we've got a big subject. Ron's best debate so far, to be honest. He's a little nerdy.
Starting point is 00:58:15 He's a little nerdy. And what I mean by that is good facts, but not being presented really well. I'm talking high school level. It's the charisma thing, but I think he's doing pretty well and uh vivek of course is always uh doing really you were right that he was a little too nerdy when he started talking about ethereum uh and that gary gensler couldn't identify if it was a security or not sure basically means is it is it going to be used as cash or is it going to be used as a commodity right the word
Starting point is 00:58:40 commodity is a little nerdy sure for your average let nerdy for your average. We'll grab some super chats during the commercials. We got MF Damien says, Ron makes some decent points, but sounds too rehearsed and inauthentic when he speaks. King Vivek all day. Yeah. Concur. Yeah. Like, I feel like Ron's actually doing really well.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah. But he's got the head bob going on. He needs a smile once in a while. But like a real smile not the whole like the gavin newsom smiling is like too weird i don't know yeah he got called out because his smiles are inauthentic i won't let you down yeah no he looks sad when he's and also you you made a great point there when you're talking about like the the gavin newsom bring that up like look you know when everyone says oh gavin newsomom, I think Terry was here last night
Starting point is 00:59:25 to say like, oh, I'm not that worried about Gavin Newsom. Like, I'm worried as hell about Gavin Newsom. This is a good one right here from Nick Williams. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Vivek missed an opportunity to highlight that Haley isn't stupid. She just doesn't care about Ukraine. The only thing Nikki is worried about is Lockheed and Raytheon's
Starting point is 00:59:40 stock price. Yeah, he didn't insult her intelligence like Chris Christie said. He pointed out that she didn't have the information. She was ignorant tomorrow the headline's gonna be chris christie defends nikki haley from vivek who becomes too aggressive on stage attacks women right right right and so in some ways like the fact that he left it ambiguous and didn't
Starting point is 00:59:56 correct it at all i mean he was on a roll he had good energy in that moment so there's a reason but it will give chris christie this moment and it also makes nikki haley look like a submissive woman which will turn feminists off from her if there's any you know vivek staff members listening i hope they hear this technically i hope they don't but just you gotta say nikki hillary over here i'm sorry i mean haley no he did have that hillary clinton comparison no but call her nikki hillary yeah excuse me yeah like and like fake you know they're like texting him right now yeah yeah nikki hillary no but when he compared her to hillary cl Yeah, that's true. Excuse me, yeah, and like fake, you know, correct himself. They're like texting him right now. Yeah, yeah. Nikki Hillary. No, but when he compared her
Starting point is 01:00:27 to Hillary Clinton, like that's a very serious indictment, right? Women in politics, either side, being compared to Hillary Clinton is not a good thing, right? Because if you're a Democrat,
Starting point is 01:00:36 she failed repeatedly. And if you're a Republican, it's Hillary Clinton. Yeah, but look, Hillary Clinton could be running on the give you a million dollars party and people would still hate her. It doesn't matter if you're Republican or Democrat
Starting point is 01:00:49 policy-wise, she is an awful human that people despise. America's ex-wife. Yeah, actually, yeah. When Nikki Haley came out and said that she wanted to track people that use social media and get their identification and make everyone, that I think indicates low intelligence. That I can argue is a low intelligence claim because she hasn't thought
Starting point is 01:01:07 ahead into what kind of corruption or the very least authoritarian let me let me grab this one from that one gamer he says i was born in november 2002 and people my age were signing up to fight in this war that has been around longer than myself we're not doing that again. Politicians can suck it. Thank you. I hear you, brother. 21 years old. Yeah. You're 21. So you voted in several election cycles already
Starting point is 01:01:30 and you were born after. But let's even talk about someone born in 1997. Okay. You're four or five years old. You don't remember any of this. So when Chris Christie's like, I was the attorney general
Starting point is 01:01:40 during 9-11. It's like, yo. That doesn't mean anything. It might mean something to people who are in their like mid-30s and up. Sure, maybe. But to everybody else, they're like, I don't care. I think I was in kindergarten, and I grew up in Connecticut, right?
Starting point is 01:01:51 So I had friends whose parents commuted into New York. I remember not going to school that day the towers fell, but all of it is stuff that I grew up hearing, but it's not. It was news I had to learn as I got older. People who have teenagers, right, who are coming up military age, it's like, for age. Do you want them to go? My little brother is still active duty. I got a lot of friends. I got a friend here who's active duty.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I know a lot of folks who are younger than me. I don't really want you to go there. The fall of the Berlin Wall. That's how I would think about it. 89. I was three. I was three years old. Actually, I was about to turn four. I was three. I was three years old. Actually, I was about to turn four, and I
Starting point is 01:02:28 only have vague memories of references to it. I'm three. I don't remember anything at all other than people mentioning it as I was a kid that it happened. Can I say something as well? What Vivek said, he talks about cutting 75% of the federal
Starting point is 01:02:44 government. It's something that a lot of people, especially people who live in the Beltway, it's like balkers. Like, oh my God, you can't do it. It's terrible. It's crazy. Here we go. But I got to say it'll be painful. It'll be tumultuous, but if it happens, we'll get through it.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yeah, definitely. Second hour. They got to talk about GDP. Two hours of this crap? Holy crap. time on the front runner in the second hour they got to talk about gdp holy crap ask you a couple questions about him now i think she's wearing a great color i just have to say she looks great former president trump recently promised if he's re-elected to bring back and expand his program restricting immigration from muslim countries did trump actually say muslim countries on october 16th, let's listen. No longer will we allow dangerous lunatics, haters, bigots and maniacs to get residency in our country. We're not going to let them stay here.
Starting point is 01:03:32 If you empathize with radical Islamic terrorists and extremists, you're disqualified. You're just disqualified. He didn't say Muslims. Mr. Haley, do you support President Trump's plan for ideological screening? Oh, come on. I don't think that you have a straight-up Muslim ban as much as you look at the countries that have terrorist activity that want to kill Americans. Oh, come on. They're going to email Megyn Kelly and be like, what was that? That's the way we should look at it, is which countries are a threat to us.
Starting point is 01:03:58 You look at what came across the southern border. What worries me the most are those that came from Iran, from Yemen, from Lebanon. Those areas where they say death to America. That's what you want to be. Yes. Let me just. OK. OK, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Trump should ban terrorists. If someone is coming to this country and we find out that they support terrorist and radical ideologies, you're disqualified. Not a big ask. It's not crazy. And the false framing by Megyn Kelly and now Nikki Haley is reprehensible. Right. And the biggest threat we have right now is communist China. But you have to also look at what Iran and Russia are doing as well.
Starting point is 01:04:34 And we need to be paying attention to that. That's why we have to focus on things like cyber, on space, on artificial intelligence, and not just the regular things that we've always focused on. It's not just terrorism, though. That's important. But look what's happened in Europe. You have more antisemitism in Germany than at any time since Adolf Hitler. Why? Because they imported mass numbers of people who reject their culture. Europe is committing suicide with the mass migration and it's illegal and legal. Nikki Haley said the other day there should be no limits on legal immigration and that
Starting point is 01:05:11 corporate CEOs should set the policy on that. There needs to be limits on immigration and we should not be importing people from cultures that are hostile. So for example, I said with the Gaza, you had some of the squad wanted to import 300,000 people from the Gaza Strip. I said no, we're not taking anyone from Gaza because of the anti-Semitism and because they reject American culture. So we've got to get smart about this. We cannot let the United States be like Europe. Governor Christie. If I may just hit this point, because it relates to what they just said. There are things that the government can do right now that nobody's talking about among the professional politicians in this race. I don't think he's got any questions.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I think he's got like one or two questions for an hour. Here's the answer. He should elbow his way in if he were serious. That is a provision that already allows ICE agents to deputize or allow local law enforcement to enforce those ICE awards. And it shocks me that nobody in the Republican Party is talking about it because there are one million then officials, law enforcement officials in this country. And against that backdrop, we absolutely have the ability to deport anybody who's in this country illegally. We need to be talking about it.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Wow. Wow. Wow. Thank you. Governor Christie actually did that as governor in South Carolina. Governor Christie asked last night in Iowa whether he would be a dictator if he wins a second term in office. Donald Trump quipped, no, quote, except for day one, promising to
Starting point is 01:06:37 seal the southern border. He has also pledged to begin the largest deportation operation in American history, saying that migrants are, quote, poisoning the blood of our country. No, illegal immigrants are. He has pledged to begin the largest deportation operation in American history, saying that migrants are, quote, poisoning the blood of our country. No, illegal immigrants are. He has pledged to round up and expel an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
Starting point is 01:06:55 What do you make of that plan? I think it's completely predictable. I mean, look, he's made it very clear. There's no mystery to what he wants to do. He started off his campaign by saying, I am your retribution. I mean, look, he's made it very clear. There's no mystery to what he wants to do. He started off his campaign by saying, I am your retribution. Eight years ago, he said, I am your voice. I think he doesn't get that Americans like Trump.
Starting point is 01:07:16 He hasn't understood the poll margin. He now wants to be back as president. He's winning the primary. He's acting retribution on anyone who has disagreed with him. Anyone. Chris Christie's a Democrat. He's on stage being like, I represent non-Republicans. These policies that he's talking about are about... Will Chamberlain just tweeted a minute ago.
Starting point is 01:07:35 At the first debate, my three colleagues on this stage, when asked if he would be convicted of federal felonies, would they still support him? Raise their hand, look into the camera and let everybody know that they would still support him, even if convicted of federal felonies. With the majority of Americans also want. Our election process, federal felonies which involve the most sensitive of our governmental secrets. Federal felonies where he instructed others to commit crimes, folks who are now agreeing to go to jail because of what they did in his name. So do I think he was kidding when he said he was a dictator? All you have to do is
Starting point is 01:08:17 look at the history. And that's why failing to speak out against him, making excuses for him, pretending that somehow he's a victim, empowers him. You want to know why those poll numbers aren't where they are? Because folks like these three guys on the stage make it seem like his conduct is acceptable. Let me make it clear. Does he not get that the majority of Republican voters like Trump? What's he trying to make clear? His conduct is unacceptable. He's unfit. And be careful of what you're going to get. If you ever got another
Starting point is 01:08:50 Donald Trump term, he's letting you know, I am your retribution. That's a good thing. Thank you. He will only be his own retribution. He doesn't care for the American. I don't care either.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Okay, a Monmouth. I want Trump to get his retribution. 58%. Governor DeSantis. And then after him, DeSantis is a get his retribution. Governor DeSantis. And then after him is DeSantis. Thank you. Governor DeSantis, Donald Trump would be older on day one of his second presidency than Joe Biden was on day one of his first. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Joe Biden would be 100. Fair point. You have said Trump is not the same man he was when he ran in 2016. Your campaign is running ads showing Trump confused. And you have said he has, quote, lost the zip on his fastball. You seem to be saying Donald Trump is no longer mentally fit to be president. Is that what you think? Look, he is showing father time is undefeated.
Starting point is 01:09:36 The idea that we're going to put someone up there that's almost 80 and there's going to be no effects from that, we all know that that's not true. And so we have an opportunity to do a next generation of leaders and really be able to move this country forward. We also need a president that can serve two terms. I don't think Donald Trump, I think he's going to have, I don't think he can be able to get elected. The Democrats want him to be the nominee. We see that. They are going to turn the screws the minute if he got the nomination, you're going to see it. I think we need to have somebody younger. I think when you get up to 80, I don't think it's a job for that. But let me just respond to some of the things there. Look, the media is making a big deal about what he said about some of these comments. I would
Starting point is 01:10:11 just remind people that is not how he governed. He didn't even fire Dr. Fauci. He didn't fire Christopher Wray. He didn't clean up the swamp. He said he was going to drain it. He did not drain it. He said he was going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it. We don't have the wall. He did say in 2016 he'd have the largest deportation program in history. He deported less than Barack Obama did when Barack Obama was president. So some of these policies he ran on in 16, I was cheering him on then, but he didn't deliver it. Here's what I can promise people. 100% of the things I promised as governor, I delivered on those promises. I beat the left time and time again. And that's what I'll do for the president. We got to start winning again as a party. Yes, win the election, but we've got to start getting these issues. I will go in and wreak havoc on this bureaucracy.
Starting point is 01:11:00 You will see people fired and we are going to bring a reckoning for how this government why doesn't he just answer the question the question was very direct is he fit to be president or isn't he the rest of the speech is interesting but chris is a democrat up there to destroy speech is interesting, but completely non-responsive. And if we were in a courtroom, he'd strike the answer and say, go to DeSantis. He's just auditioning to moderate the next debate. No, they would. They would strike the answer because you're not answering it. You just don't like...
Starting point is 01:11:35 You have your thing. Is he fit or isn't he? No, I don't have my thing. He's the thing. Is he fit or isn't he? You're talking about him being 80 years old. It doesn't mean that somebody couldn't get elected. That's the people that are lying. the thing. Is he fit or isn't he? You're talking about him being 80 years old. Ron, is he fit? Ron?
Starting point is 01:11:49 They zoomed in on Ron's face. Did you see that? It was intensifying. Guys, guys, guys. The party likes Donald Trump. Thank you for lowering the volume. The party likes Donald Trump. Donald Trump is winning and Chris Christie is attacking Donald Trump on stage.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Where Ron DeSantis is even trying to avoid going too heavy. I don't know how he would score on a test, but I know this. We have an opportunity to nominate someone and elect someone for two terms who's going to be spinning nails on day one and for eight years deliver you big results. Chris Christie is
Starting point is 01:12:19 running for a cabinet position under a Democrat. Who's almost 80 years old. He's afraid to answer. No, I'm not. Either you're afraid or you're not listening. All you've got to say is, you don't question it. Is he fit?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Nobody can hear this. I can hear you. Girls, girls. Ladies, please. I'm a simple guy. I'd be like, hey, Lardo. Calm down. Is he fit or isn't he?
Starting point is 01:12:48 I can see you're fit, Ron. You're a new generation. You're 44 years old. I wish I was still 44 years old. 45. Well, congratulations. I'd still take 45. Is he fit or isn't he?
Starting point is 01:13:02 And this is the problem with my three colleagues. They're afraid to offend. If you're afraid to offend Donald Trump, then what are you going to do when you sit across from President Xi, you sit across from the Ayatollah, you sit across from Putin? You have to be willing to offend with the truth it's not defending i promised ron desantis a minute and not a full minute i've got a second it's about pointing out do you want to elect somebody who will be older than biden was when he went in 2021 just say yes i i don't think he's as bad as Biden was at all. But I do think that over a four-year period,
Starting point is 01:13:48 it is not a job for somebody that's pushing 80. We need somebody that's younger. We need somebody that's going to be able to go in there. Donald Trump is fit to be president. I kind of think I can run two terms. Thank you. Have a nice day. That's all I can say, Ron. All three of my other colleagues on this debate stage,
Starting point is 01:14:04 is all three of them have been licking Donald Trump's boots for years for money and endorsements. Ron DeSantis, you've been a great governor, but you would have never been one without extra pay. But I don't think that's the point he's making. Same thing with Chris Christie as a lobbyist, begging them for COVID money for his special interests in New Jersey, prepping him for the debates last time around. These people are now Monday morning quarterbacking some decision he made. I think the real enemy is not Donald Trump. It's not even Joe Biden. It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take on. And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's going to speak the truth to you. Why am I the only person on the
Starting point is 01:14:44 stage, at least, who can say that January 6th now does look like it was an inside job? Whoa! There we go. About Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11. That the Great Replacement Theory is not some grand right-wing conspiracy theory, but a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform. That the 2020 election was indeed stolen by big tech. That the 2016 election, the one that Trump
Starting point is 01:15:10 won for sure, was also one that was stolen from him by the national security establishment that actually put up the Trump-Russia collusion. Oh, now they want to cut him off. There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say these things. That's what it's going to take. Not people who are licking his boots one time.
Starting point is 01:15:26 And now Monday morning quarterback. He also sucks up to the Trump. That's not his point, though. He's pointing out. Yeah, they were. No, no, no, no, no, no. They're kissing his boots, but now turning on him, trying to steal. And Vivek's standing out of it.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yeah, it's going to turn against him. The surgeries done on minors involve cutting off body parts at a time when these kids cannot even legally smoke a cigarette. Kids who go from puberty blockers to cross-sex hormones are at a much greater likelihood of winding up sterile. How is it that you think a parent should be able to okay these surgeries, never mind the sterilization of a child? And aren't you waiting? Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck.
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Starting point is 01:17:05 Less involvement with government, not more involvement in people's lives. And you know what, Megan? I trust parents. Oh, man. We should empower parents in education. We should empower parents to make more decisions about where their kids go to school. I agree. We should empower parents to be teaching the values that
Starting point is 01:17:25 they believe in in their homes without the government telling them what those values should be. And yet we want to take other parental rights away. I'm sorry. As a father of four, I believe there is no one who loves my children more than me. And if they want to cut his penis off. There's no one who loves my children more than my wife. There's no one who cares more about their success and health in life than we do. Not some government bureaucrat, not some. You look at these jokers down in Congress. It takes them three weeks to pick a speaker. And up until two days ago, they couldn't promote somebody in the military in the United States Senate who earned their new rank. And we're going
Starting point is 01:18:05 to put my children's health and my decisions in their hands for them to make those decisions, for Joe Biden to make those decisions. Bro, they're just saying don't give kids sex changes. They're not saying anything else. Let me just say this. This is not something I favor. I think it's a very, very dangerous thing to do.'s not the way to do it. I get you. And I get to make the decisions about my children, not anybody else. And every parent out there who's watching tonight, you start to turn over just a little bit of this authority. The authority they're going to take from you next, you're not going to like. You think he beats his kids?
Starting point is 01:18:39 I'll stand up for parents. I don't want the government stepping in when I got my belt out. No, he's got a sack of sweet Valencia oranges. I don't want the government stepping in when I got my belt out. No, he's got a sack of sweet Valencia oranges. You guys are going to get to weigh in. No bruises, man. My kid wants his hand cut off. He thinks he should be an amputee. When you were governor in 2017, you signed a law that required new guidelines for schools dealing with transgender students.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Those guidelines required schools to accept a child's preferred gender identity, even if the minor's parents objected. And it said that there is no duty for schools to notify parents if their son or daughter changes their gender identity, allowing this serious issue to remain a secret between the school and a child.
Starting point is 01:19:20 How is any of that pro-parental rights? Oh, Megan Kelly! That's simply not true. That's simply not true. That's simply not true. That law was put into effect in 2018 and regulated in 2018 before I, after I was out of office, Megan. No, we did not, Megan. We did not issue those guidelines, and you're wrong about that. Simply wrong. I have stood up each and every time. So I think if this is one issue that's
Starting point is 01:19:45 disqualifying, it's this one. I stood up every single time for parents to be able to make the decisions for their minor children. Every single time parents should make those decisions. And by the way, you know what? Every once in a while, parents are going to make decisions. Back check, Politico, 2017, Chris Christie signs bill to extend protections for trans students. He is lying. You don't know that slippery slope, what rights are going to be taken away next, and what's going to be enforced on you.
Starting point is 01:20:12 As a parent, you do not have the right to abuse your kids. This is cutting off their genitals. This is mutilating these minors. These are irreversible procedures, and this is something that other countries in Europe, like Sweden, once they started doing it, they saw it did incalculable damage.
Starting point is 01:20:29 They've shut it down. I signed legislation in Florida banning the mutilation of minors because it is wrong. We cannot allow this to happen in this country. And I know Chris disagrees with me, and I think he has an honest position. Nikki disagrees with me. She opposes the bill that we did to ban that. She said the law shouldn't get involved with it. You said the law shouldn't get involved with it.
Starting point is 01:20:50 She's so under her skin. She also, though, I think, and this is flows from what she did as governor of South Carolina. They had a bill to try to say that men should go into girls' bathrooms. And she killed that bill. And she bragged that she killed that bill. Even to this day, she bragged that. I don't think men should be going into little girls' bathrooms. I think it's wrong, and I think we have every right to protect them from that.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I am going to come to you. I promised him seconds. Go quickly. I think the North Star here is transgenderism is a mental health disorder. We don't let you smoke a cigarette by the age of 18. We don't let you have an addictive drink of alcohol by the age of 21. And I just challenge Ron DeSantis to go one step further and support what I think is clearly within the authority to do, using federal funds just like Reagan did in 84 for the Highway Act that said the minimum drinking age needs to be 21.
Starting point is 01:21:39 We can do the same thing when it comes to banning genital mutilation or chemical castration. I know Ron's been, I'm clear on that on the federal level. I'm crystal clear. That's where I stand. That's a mental health disorder. That's where we need to be at. Go ahead. It is literally a disorder. Ron has continued to lie because he's losing. It's just, you are lying. So first of all, I will say that when I was governor 10 10 years ago when the bathroom situation came up, we had maybe a handful of kids that were dealing with an issue. And I said, we don't need to bring government into this, but boys go into boys' bathrooms, girls go into girls' bathrooms. And if anyone else has an issue, they use a private bathroom. Now, 10 years later, we see that this issue has exploded. And this shows how hypocritical Ron
Starting point is 01:22:31 continues to be. When he was running for governor and they asked him about that, he said he didn't think bathroom bills were a good use of his time. You can go look that up. I signed a bathroom bill in Florida. I don't believe her. Ron's a culture warrior. It's the only thing he's got. These are his issues. The idea that you would say that I was against that. I signed it. You didn't. You killed it. I signed it. I spoke for little girls. You didn't do it. And there was this going on.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I was actually just in South Carolina. Some of the legislators told me at the time there were boys going into the girls. That's the whole reason why they did it. And so they say when she does that explanation that that doesn't hold water. And this is the upstate of South Carolina. I signed the bill. I protected the girls. She did not do it. You are not going to talk about my state like that because I will tell you your state lady, South Carolinians never allowed that to happen and we hadn't we did not have that issue at the time what I have always said is boys going to a boys bathroom girls going to girls but hold on one second I also say
Starting point is 01:23:35 that biological boys shouldn't be playing in girls sports and I will do everything I can to stop that because it's the women's issue of our time. The thing is, McMaster, who's the seventh governor of South Carolina, now has way more Trump and way more base than she ever was. Thank you, guys. We're going to move on. Mr. Ramaswamy, when discussing your Hindu faith in September, you seemed to take a shot at Ambassador Haley, who is also Indian American and who converted to Christianity as an adult. You said, an easy thing for me to do, being a politician, is to shorten my name, profess to be a Christian, and then run. Make Vivek Vicky or whatever, end quote. Are you
Starting point is 01:24:13 questioning Nikki Haley's Christian convictions? And why has your campaign made a point of referring to Ambassador Haley by her given first name, Nimarata, even though she's gone by Nikki for her whole life? Well, my whole deal is if Nikki Haley, of all people, should know how to pronounce my name correctly, the rest of the news media can learn it. My deal is I'll call her Nikki when she can say my own name right. That's our little fun side bet there. Here's what I will say is deeper. I don't question her faith, but I question her authenticity.
Starting point is 01:24:38 And I think that's deeper here. We were just talking about the trans issue. This is a symptom of a deeper cancer in American life. Identity politics. This new religion that says your race, your gender, and your sexuality are your identity. It is anti-American. It is meritocratic. It's anti-meritocratic.
Starting point is 01:24:55 And it is dividing this country to a breaking point. And I've spoken about this to the left. My books are all about this. I've preached this to the left. But it's even worse when Republicans try to play the same game. We're talking about that trans issue. Nikki Haley's campaign launch video sounded like a woke Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light ad talking about how she would kick in heels. At the first debate, she said that only a woman can get this job done. That's what she said. After the third debate, when I criticized Ronna McDaniel after five failed years of leadership of this party
Starting point is 01:25:26 and criticized Nikki for her corrupt foreign dealings as a military contractor, she said that I have a woman problem. Nikki, I don't have a woman problem. You have a corruption problem. Nikki is corrupt. No. Whoa, oh my God, that was actually it. That was the real thing.
Starting point is 01:25:46 No! I tweeted that thing that somebody sent out and I thought that was a joke. I thought it was photoshopped. I beat you to death. He did it on purpose. There's going to be a big penis on it. Yeah, he's going to get tons of memes.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I thought that was a joke. He's doing that right now because he wants it to be a meme. He wants everyone to know his name. That was amazing. My buddy sent me a picture of the tweet. I thought this was photoshopped. I thought it was photoshopped.
Starting point is 01:26:14 This was like 10 minutes ago. I thought it was photoshopped, and it's real. But that's not him holding up. That's an overhead shot of him preparing it. I thought this was shot. And it's like, holy cow. It was real. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:26:29 To you. Okay. We got to move on to this. I love this. Wow, dude. I'm going to Photoshop something right now, actually. About the Justice Department and our election system. Here's Tom Fitton with Judicial Watch.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Let's just talk about Vivek crushing Nikki. Can we please talk about that? Please, Vivek crushing Nikki. Can we please talk about that? Please, Vivek crushing Nikki? No? President Trump and many of his supporters claim his law enforcement agency have abused his civil rights for the last eight years by,
Starting point is 01:26:56 among other things, spying on him and now prosecuting him while having treated Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden with kid gloves. A recent Gallup poll shows that Americans think more highly of the U.S. Postal Service than they do the FBI or Justice Department. What would you do as president to restore the faith of the American people in these agencies? Well, first off, I'm the only person on this stage who's actually done a job in the Department of Justice.
Starting point is 01:27:24 I was the U.S. attorney in New Jersey in the fifth largest office in this country, appointed by President Bush on September 10th, 2001. And it was an extraordinary time in this country to be on the front lines of fighting the greatest attack against our country since Pearl Harbor. And I'm proud of the seven years I spent in the Justice Department and one of the reasons I am is because I had an Attorney General when I came in named John Ashcroft. And John Ashcroft stood up and told each and every one of us our job was to do one thing, to make sure justice was done every day regardless of partisanship, regardless of gender or race or any other consideration. And that's what we did for seven years.
Starting point is 01:28:09 And at a time when our country was at its greatest moment of danger in the last 40 years, we did exactly that and there was not another domestic terrorist attack on this soil. So what I would do as president, having had that experience, and the only one who's had that experience, is to pick an attorney general who will absolutely do the same thing that John Ashcroft did. To pick U.S. attorneys who will only care about making sure that justice is done without regard to any other consideration but the facts that are presented and whether someone is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and the government can prove it. We have had attorneys general like Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch and Jeff Sessions and now
Starting point is 01:28:54 our current attorney general who have not met that standard. And the only way you restore people's faith in the justice system is to put someone like that in charge of the Justice Department and then as president to get at the hell out of the way on anything that involves criminal investigations if a president's involved in trying to do something and put their thumb on the scales donald trump says he will do oh shut up that makes people agree i apologize i know i think this is going to be fair thank you thank you yeah he made okay republicans are concerned about the legitimacy of elections a federal judge just still calling in someone else must count undated mail-in ballots and unlike alabama many states still don't require any identification to vote what should states do now to increase election integrity and voter
Starting point is 01:29:45 confidence for the 2024 election? Well, Tom, thanks for the question. Thanks for you guys doing Judicial Watch. It's really, really important. There's a lot of corruption in this government. You guys are doing a great job. What you should do for election integrity is do what we did in Florida. 20 years ago, Florida and elections was a joke. Everybody would laugh at it. I came in, I removed a couple supervisors from South Florida. We require voter ID universal, no Zucker bucks, no mass mail balloting, and no ballot harvesting. We even have an agency that prosecutes people for violating election laws. The result of that in both 2020 and 2022, we counted millions and millions of votes on election night, produced the results. It was transparent and everybody was
Starting point is 01:30:31 happy. That is not happening throughout this country. But let me tell you this as the nominee, I think it's important. Not every state's where we need it to be. There is ballot harvesting in places like Nevada, all these places. I am not going to fight with one hand tied behind my back. I'm going to have organizations in all the swing states. If they're harvesting, we're harvesting. If they're Zucker bucks, we're Zucker bucks. We are going to exploit whatever the rules are. I favor changing the rules to be like Florida and some of the other states that have done a good job. But until then, we have to do that. And then just on the Justice Department and FBI. I mean, I remember being, you know, in Iraq working with FBI on the ground and being,
Starting point is 01:31:05 and then I was a special assistant. I used to have such a high regard for these agencies. What they did to Donald Trump with the Russia collusion was one of the biggest abuses of power in the history of our country. These agencies need to be cleaned out. With me, you'll have a new FBI director on day one. We're going to clear out the DOJ, the IRS, all these places. Buckle your seatbelts. There's going to be a new sheriff in town. Thank you. We're going to come back in one minute.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Just once. I'm photoshopping right now. That blew my mind, dude. Josh, my buddy downstairs, he sent me the picture, the meme of that of the whole you know hayley's corrupt i thought it was literally photoshopped so you had like an aerial shot of it yeah there's like overhead shot i retweeted and i like literally thought it was
Starting point is 01:31:53 like oh it's like oh somebody focused on ha ha ha you know he wants it and then he holds up holy shit for a long time i know it was wild at the correct angle. Multiple cameras. He's like, I am about to become a meme. Grandpa, how did Nikki Haley's political career end? Just show that picture. Like, they crushed it, bro. I am curious to see what the polls are like tomorrow, because Chris Christie's barely here. I mean, he's not talking at all. And in fact, there was a whole segment
Starting point is 01:32:19 where they never even tossed him a question. I couldn't even hear him breathing over the mic either. No, no, you couldn't. And so then you have Nikki Haley, who she is holding a pretty steady position in New Hampshire, but again, will this shake it enough to put, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:34 I would be really curious. Right now it doesn't look like Vivek would win New Hampshire. It looks like Donald Trump will win Iowa and New Hampshire, but I wonder who that second place will be. Will that be enough? Yeah, that's what I was picturing. I hope that goes on Twitter. Should I tweet?
Starting point is 01:32:51 Yeah, I don't know. Vivek 2024, truth. Tweet it really big with the word truth all in caps. Vivek and I got to fix your camera there, Ian. Oh, okay. You know what I will do, though? That's a funny one. So for those that are wondering, I'm using my phone here to edit this wonderful Vivek photo,
Starting point is 01:33:09 and I drew male genitals on his notepad. No, but what I will do is I'm going to erase what he wrote and post the blank white notepad. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, create systems. Create systems. I will unleash it unto you, and I will not post the vulgarity myself. I take no responsibility for what you say.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Yeah, David Robinson in chat feels that one. He had the image. So Christy said how he would restore faith in the FBI was to replace, what was was it the attorney general yeah they also like clear out the you know the front office so to speak i feel like he could have punched harder at the biden administration like the thing is trump is dominating this they're all critiquing trump's record he was the last republican president but they could all be attacking joe biden for all kinds of things because those will be the immediate problems they take on when if anyone theoretically not I think any of them are going to get elected, but
Starting point is 01:34:08 whoever is elected next is going to take on the legacy of Joe Biden. And he has left a lot of messes behind. Like he is a destructive president in so many ways. Let's just talk about the border. All of them have interesting and strong, fairly strong positions. The border way stronger than Republicans have been in the past. But it's not enough. Right. They need to talk more directly about what biden is not doing also the trump didn't build the wall thing i don't think it was a one-term job no it's like a three and it was it could take 16 years you know it could take a long time and reinforce there was a there was obstruction and when several border states started building their own barriers the federal government under
Starting point is 01:34:44 biden came and took them down oh yeah do you remember when they import their voters one way and when several border states started building their own barriers, the federal government under Biden came and took them down. Oh, yeah. Do you remember when they ordered- They had to import their voters one way or another. Doug Ducey out of Arizona to take, he had these shipping containers in the gaps.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Yeah. And they're like, you have to take those down. They're in federal land or something. Then you're like, okay, are you going to put a wall up? And they're like, but no, the animals migrate through here.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Yeah, I know. There's one thing as well when you mentioned there when like Christie talks about saying, hey, clean out DOJ. And it comes out like, well, you know, for example, one of my close friends from the Navy who's now been in the FBI for about 15, almost 15 years now. You know, he's kind of the same mind. He is very based in many ways.
Starting point is 01:35:18 But also at the same time, he kind of looks at it as he's worried about this, like, throw the baby out with the bath water kind of thing and you know I'm more than mine like now you need to like make some very disruptive changes as in like breaking it up right like saying like it has to happen a lot of folks you know I'm not saying like look and one thing we have to realize though is like the phrase we had when I was in the service it's called you know one aw shit ruins a thousand
Starting point is 01:35:40 attaboys right because guess what like the FBI does do a lot of really good work they stop drug dealers you you know, child predators. They do actual real work. But the thing is, though, is like, look, when there are like these massive fails, and not even fails, but like evil, bad things that the, you know, that federal law enforcement are doing,
Starting point is 01:35:59 it's like you, like that does not, that negates all the good work. It's got to be split up and it's got to be like, it can be divvied out to different agencies, state level, federal level, but it's way too powerful. If you read about how the FBI started, it's wild. Oh, yeah, J. Edgar Hoover. It was like his personal military or something.
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Starting point is 01:37:19 hauled elite university presidents up to Capitol Hill to answer for the displays of anti-Semitism on college campuses. And they all defended it. These leaders, including the president of Harvard, Oh, man, this is crazy. And they all defended it. Yeah. Wow. They said no. Oh!
Starting point is 01:37:41 Thanks. Mickey had it. context, including whether that speech veers into conduct. How do you think these schools and the rest of society should balance the imperative of free speech against the need to prevent radical activists from harassing and intimidating others? It was disgusting to see what happened. You know, if this had been the KKK that was doing protests on those campuses, every one of those college presidents would have been up in arms. This is just as bad. The idea that they would go and allow that kind of pro-Hamas protest or agree with the genocide of Jews and try and say that they needed context on that, there is no context to that. This is what we need to do. You don't allow protests.
Starting point is 01:38:20 First of all, we have got to get foreign money out of our universities. You've got Arab money, you've got Chinese money, you've got others. We need to go to every university and say you either take foreign money or you take American money, but the days of taking both are over. The second thing we need to do... Already getting the vague clipboard memes. Already got one. My buddy just
Starting point is 01:38:40 said it. From downstairs. There's one in Super Chat. I can't say it, though. Fair enough. It's really good. Israel has a right to exist. That is anti-Semitic. We will change the definition so that every government, every school has to acknowledge the definition for what it is. The third thing is we really do need to ban Tik TOK once and for all. And let me tell you why every 30 minutes that someone watches Tik TOK
Starting point is 01:39:04 every day, they become 17% more anti-Semitic, more pro-Hamas based on doing that. We now know that 50% of adults, 18 to 25, think that Hamas was warranted and what they did with Israel. That's a problem. When campuses also don't go and protect when they have these rallies and you've got students that are scared, we need to go to these universities and say, if you're not going to protect these students, if you're not going to acknowledge anti-Semitism, we'll take
Starting point is 01:39:34 your tax-exempt status away. That'll fix it, and that'll take care of it for good. This whole... Staying with you, Ambassador Haley. On October 6th, the Israeli government thought it had a clear-eyed view of the threat from Hamas. In fact, according to the New York Times,
Starting point is 01:39:50 it even had Hamas' attack plan and dismissed it as an aspiration. The Israelis were wrong. In our country, the FBI director told the Senate panel just yesterday that he sees quote, blinking red lights everywhere and that the threat level has,
Starting point is 01:40:06 quote, gone to a whole nother level since October 7th. Which of the threats facing our country do you worry could blindside us? What worries me and what keeps me up at night is what happens between now and Election Day while Joe Biden's in office. That's what worries me more than anything else. But I'll tell you that America right now is acting like it's September 10th. We better remember what September 12th felt like, because it only takes one. And whether you're looking at open borders that are allowing people to come in, Iran knows the easiest way to get to America is through the southern border. And we're not doing anything to stop it. We've got to get the foreign infiltration out of our country,
Starting point is 01:40:46 whether it's in our schools, whether it's on our social media, whether it's we need to stop all foreign lobbying that's happening to members of Congress. And we need to start securing America again. Until we do that, we are going to be at threats. We've got to look at Iran. China and Russia want to destroy the West.
Starting point is 01:41:02 I was in the Senate today. You know how many Ukrainians I saw? We've got to start protecting Americans. Right now, Americans don't want to protect. And we're not doing anything to strengthen it. So Joe Biden continues to be a problem. That'll change on election day. Governor DeSantis, if China invades Taiwan, would you send American troops as President Biden has said he would do? We will be able to deter that from happening. I think that's the important thing. We need a strategy of denial so that we're deterring Xi's ambitions. What if it doesn't work?
Starting point is 01:41:34 It's going to work. Taiwan's an ally. We have longstanding American policy, and you know how that's done, and we will follow that. But here's the thing. Taiwan is important not just because of semiconductors. It's important because if China is able to break out of this first island chain, they're going to be able to dominate commerce in the entire Indo-Pacific. They will use that to export authoritarianism all around the world, including here in the United States. You look at some of these guys, actually some of them that are supporting Nikki on Wall Street, they grovel to China. Anytime something happens, they got to go do that. So they already exert a huge amount of authority over this country. It will get a lot worse. So deterring China's ambitions is the number one national security task that I will do as president, and we will succeed. The 21st century
Starting point is 01:42:22 needs to be an American century. We cannot let it be a Chinese century. Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm coming to you next on Taiwan. You said, if you want to stop Xi from invading Taiwan, quote, let's open a branch of the NRA in Taiwan and put an AR-15 in the hands of every family and train them how to use it. I stand by that. A taste of American exceptionalism, end quote. The national police in Taiwan announced a zero gun policy last year. Is this a serious policy proposal? And if it isn't, why do you keep repeating it?
Starting point is 01:43:00 Well, it's part of a broader deterrence strategy. And so I think I'm going to respectfully disagree with Ron here. I think the next U.S. president needs to be crystal clear that at least for the foreseeable future, the U.S. will absolutely defend Taiwan. And it is with that clarity that we actually achieve deterrence. But I have a broader strategy than that. We need to get on side in our relationship with India, take it to the next level. India has to be able to block the Andaman Sea, which is where China gets most of its Middle Eastern oil supplies. That's critical. I also do believe the Second Amendment is a critical way of preventing foreign autocrats from being able to, it's worked in America, why wouldn't it work in Taiwan? So it is part of a
Starting point is 01:43:34 broader strategy. But I do think that we need to be specific about our deterrence strategy, or else Xi Jinping is just encroaching by the day. And the reason why we're not doing it for China, I want to be crystal clear, is because we're scared. Why are we scared? Because we depend on them for our modern way of life. Why do we depend on them for our modern way of life? It's because Nikki Haley's latest friends like Larry Fink have created co-mingled economies
Starting point is 01:43:57 with BlackRock telling Exxon and Chevron they can't drill here while being a shareholder of PetroChina not applying those same constraints in China. So it is our economic dependence on China that makes us scared. If that were a Russian spy balloon, we'd have shot it down in an instant. If that were a Russian spy base in Cuba, we'd be actually going hard on them instead of turning the other way as we are with China. So it comes back down to that economic dependence. We cannot depend on them for our pharmaceuticals, our semiconductors, and people have been lied to for a long time. Our own military, the F-35 jets
Starting point is 01:44:30 that we make in this country depend on China and it's going to take an outsider to fix that broken establishment. Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. Ambassador Haley, would you like to respond? You should come back with like, if every 30 minutes a kid's on TikTok, there's 17% more anti-Semitic, that means Nikki Haley's kid is like 8,500% anti-Semitic. We win in Ukraine, that we protect our friends, but also let China know that they'll be held in hand if they go into Taiwan. They need to know that there is going to be a force that's going to go against them. And they need to know it's not just going to be the United States.
Starting point is 01:45:02 That is why we need to build our partnerships with India, with South Korea, with Japan, with the Philippines, with Australia. We need to start pulling that alliance together. And the first way we do that is we need to make sure that on day one, we look at the fact, whatever, if China pulled the rug out from under us tomorrow, would we be ready? Think about what happened during COVID. Everybody told you to wear a mask. They were made in China. Everybody told you to wear a mask. They were made in China. Everybody told you to take a COVID test. They were made in China. Everybody went and, I mean, everything that happened, if you go to the drugstore, all those medicines are made in China. We have to make sure that we are not relying on China for anything related to our national
Starting point is 01:45:40 security. Which means let's start focusing on really? He's like, I should be the moderator. Governor Christie, I'd like you to weigh in on that. Do you think our main campaign in Taiwan with an AR-15 is a plausible policy? Ian, I'll DM you. Just tweet it. I don't think we have constitutional authority over Taiwan to give them a Second Amendment. I think they can only do that for themselves. But look, I want to be really clear.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Once again, I want to play the role of actually answering your question, which is if China went after Taiwan, you're absolutely right. I would, as president, have us go militarily and defend them. Secondly, I'm not afraid, based upon those economic relationships, to do that. Because these economic relationships mean nothing. Nothing. economic relationships to do that because these economic relationships mean nothing nothing if what's going to happen is that china is going to come and act in that region of the world however they see fit it's not right and and and i'll say this about um what you know i heard from nikki earlier she said that donald trump was good on trade he wasn. And the proof that he wasn't good on trade with China is that all he did was
Starting point is 01:46:47 impose tariffs, which raised the prices for every American. You want to know what has contributed to inflation in this country? Yes, it's more government spending. The Democrat wins and then says, we're going to be bipartisan and unify the country. Chris Christie's a Republican. We're bringing him back. The prices that were driven by Donald Trump's
Starting point is 01:47:03 tariffs. And one last thing, you can't say he was good on trade because he didn't trade. He didn't change one Chinese policy in the process. He failed on it. Thank you, Governor Christie. Governor DeSantis, switching subjects here. For 15 years, Republicans have been burned by politicians' promises to repeal Obamacare. Trump repeatedly promised to replace
Starting point is 01:47:25 it with, quote, something terrific, but failed to propose anything. You're now promising something better. But Florida has more uninsured people than almost any other state. Why should Americans trust you more than any other Republicans who've disappointed them on this issue? Well, I think we have millions of Americans who do not have access to affordable health care. And it's not just getting some type of card and Medicaid, because a lot of times they don't even get access to doctors. Do you actually get access to care? The other thing is we have millions and millions of people don't have access to good doctors and good hospitals. Florida did not expand Obamacare. I think the states that did
Starting point is 01:48:06 that, I think, are struggling financially. So that, yes, we declined to do that. And I don't think that that was the right policy to do. But we are going to go after the cost. You're paying too much for everything. We've actually addressed this in Florida in some ways. But you need price transparency. You need to hold the pharmaceuticals accountable. You need to hold big insurance and big government accountable. And we're going to get that done. I think it's very, very important economically. I think it's very, very important for the country that we get that done. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Yeah, so I actually wanted to, this is a very personal issue to our family. I wanted to take actually a minute to recognize my wife who's here today. Badass surgeon. She did a bunch of cases with cancer survivors earlier today flew here to be not tonight we'll be back at 7 a.m in columbus ohio tomorrow taking care of those patients in the or most accomplished on the front lines of people who have actually not swallowed for years and here's what's something that's awful that's happening in our health care system they'll pay for anything like feeding tubes, doctors to be pill pushers,
Starting point is 01:49:05 but for the procedures that can actually make these patients better, we have a broken healthcare system that doesn't pay for it. My wife, a poor woman in many cases does not get paid for those procedures. She does them anyway, because it's the right thing to do, but that does not work system wide. So here's the answer. We don't have a health care system in this country. We have a sick care system. We be new ideas always. That's where the competitive marketplace begins. That's the answer. Multiple times over. A successful business person. He has never had any political experience.
Starting point is 01:49:52 The Trump administration and private industry developed a COVID vaccine in record time. Can't talk about the vaccine, apparently, on Rumble. That's not us, that's them. That was a joke. Technical issues. As soon as joke. This is them, yeah. Oh! Technical issues! Dude, seriously, as soon as they start talking about vaccines, come on,
Starting point is 01:50:12 guys. Dude, Vivek just explained how to solve it. He said that you need to end the antitrust exemptions on the pharmaceutical on the insurance agency. Wait, wait, wait. She just asked about vaccines and the whole thing just shut down. Dude, that's so true. Somebody call Chris from Rumble. Don't make me want to put on a tinfoil hat, guys, but like, come on. She just asked him about vaccines and the whole thing just shut down. Dude, that's so true. Somebody call Chris from Rumble. Don't make me want to put on a tinfoil hat, guys. But like,
Starting point is 01:50:27 come on. Like I said, if it was YouTube, I'd be like, oh, that makes sense. I mean, we're on YouTube. So you end the antitrust exemption. We'll be right back. For insurance agencies. That's pretty cool. I like the music, though. Yeah, it's a jam. You know what? The music
Starting point is 01:50:43 makes it okay. of all those folks on stage i gotta say the things you think about like the guys vivek right like tremendous private sector experience right and his wife's super accomplished dude like you know it's one of you compare him in terms like legacy like what they've done before like like politician compared to someone who you know like started huge companies he's a billionaire or i don't know if he's a billionaire he's a nine-figure dude at least like that is that's that's pretty hard to do yeah it is i think often about i'm not qualified to get into politics yet because i haven't done jack shit with my personal like i guess i have you know it's not what's going
Starting point is 01:51:20 on i know it's wild dude what if it's not the vaccine thing what if like, like, Chris Christie finally stormed off stage or, like, fell over or something? Who knows? I don't know, man. Yo, but no, but for real, like, what if something happened to somebody? Is this airing somewhere else? Well, right now, we'll see. Well, online, it's on Rumble. Like, if you want to watch on television, we could.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Well, I'm not saying you should pull it up, but just, like, let's make sure it's, like, it's not a Rumble problem. It's a Rumble problem and not a, you know. This is their stream. Yeah, this is their stream. So Rumble right now is looking into it. Right. But I'm like, if other folks are airing it right now.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Yeah, it looks like TV is still on. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's just a Rumble issue, it seems. So if you're watching on cable, you're still getting it. Okay. Chris Christie, he's eating the microphone.
Starting point is 01:52:01 I'm kidding. He's bored. He charged the camera. He's like, I'm tired of this. The entire idea. Oh, no. What? Austin Peterson tweets, Vivek just hammered the final nail in the Neocon coffin era tonight.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I want to rewind. I'm in suspense. What did he say? But the idea of like any politician, right, who's coming out there where it's like this guy like Vivek and Trump for that matter, they don't need the job, right? He does not need to be here, right? A lot of these folks here, that matter, they don't need the job. Right. He does not need to be here. Right. A lot of these folks here, that's how they make their money.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Yeah. I can't believe they just lost the debate. The thing is, everyone on stage needs to be here to raise their national profile on some level. And that's totally understandable. That's why they were invented in the first place. Right. So Americans could get to know the candidates. But it is a weird stage when ultimately we know.
Starting point is 01:52:45 I wonder if Trump is waiting until there's basically one left. And then he's like, OK, I'll do a debate now. He doesn't need to be here while they throw punches at each other. But we all ultimately want to know how whoever comes out of this stacks up against Trump. I got to say, if he's still maintaining a ridiculously strong lead, he has no incentive to. Well, that's what he said. It's all downside. Right, and the GOP needs him more because he's essentially
Starting point is 01:53:08 a headliner, right? If he goes, they're like, it's ridiculous to skip this. That was Ron McDaniels, but he would boost all of their ratings. Are we back? Is it happening? What is going on? When anyone asks who lost the debate tonight, the answer is Rumble. Ouch. I know, it sucks because I love Rumble. Yeah, I just refreshed it and now it's just
Starting point is 01:53:24 doing this. It's the trip counter of Joe Biden and versus Rumble HQ tripping all over themselves. Here we go. Here we go. No, no, no. Oh, you're rewinding. Oh, crap. Yeah. I hope it picks up.
Starting point is 01:53:33 They just switched to cut to some trips. Okay. Yeah. Switch to some. They're like, remember how much you don't like Joe Biden? It's fine. Get your exclusive. Run the Biden blooper reel.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Now they're selling me elephant pins. I do feel like they're not talking about Biden enough. I think that there's a lot of infighting which makes sense as a republican primary but like i said they're gonna inherit they're gonna inherit whatever trump biden leaves oh okay i guess rumble just lost it i don't know i get i get annoyed when they talk about other people is it did it go to commercial now i guess because they're running commercials i mean they must have been pretty close to a commercial break anyways. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Yeah, it's running commercials now. They're looking into it right now. That's all I can see. Yeah, Rumble's just... Everyone at Rumble, they're all jumping through their asses trying to figure it out. I'm sure they are.
Starting point is 01:54:16 But I think it went to commercial anyway, so... Okay. Like I said, I'm pretty sure they were close to a break anyways. Still, but right when they're talking about vaccine stuff, just a little weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Yeah, but Rumble. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. I'm with you. If it was YouTube. I'm with you. Is that Armless Palmer? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:32 They don't make those anymore. You got to keep the can as a collectible. Yeah, because Liquid Death got sued. So just a shout out to- Now it's called Dead Billionaire. One of the best Mill blog guys out there on Mill Twitter. So if you guys are out there, a guy named Commander Salamander,
Starting point is 01:54:44 who I, CR Salamander, strongly recommend on any sort of like military, special naval issues. He's a retired naval officer friend who I know in real life, but he maintains himself very non. Anyways, he was like tweeting at me. He's like, what's that can that Tom has right now? He's watching right now. And so, hey Sal.
Starting point is 01:55:00 And so yeah, Liquid Death. And it's limited edition and obviously discontinued. So yeah. It's actually called, I think it's not Dead Billionaire, it's Dead Golfer. Oh, okay. Dead Billionaire? Yeah. Oh, wow. But to the friends or anybody who's watching right now, if you're interested in anything
Starting point is 01:55:12 military on Twitter, Commander Salamander, CDR Salamander, 10 out of 10 recommend. Oh, that's awesome. I just followed him. Yeah, oh, he's phenomenal. Do you talk to a lot of people who don't use Twitter? Like, how often do you? Oh, yeah. Oh, a ton.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I mean, that's like my family. And do you feel like they exist in a different world than you? Yes. We were talking about this the other night. Yeah, generally. Oh yeah. Yeah. Lots of my mom's always asking me like, oh, did you watch this?
Starting point is 01:55:31 And I was like, no, I don't watch Fox. Yeah. But you have all sorts of information that they probably don't have. Yeah. I mean, like it's one thing that also a lot of us who are like very online, right? Especially on political, cultural issues. You got to realize that it's like, that's a pretty niche field. You know?
Starting point is 01:55:48 Yeah. And you know, outside of folks, like even when I mentioned, oh, I'm going on this podcast tomorrow, blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, a lot of folks, the folks who are like following politics or online watching things, they all know this. But a lot of folks are like, oh, I've heard of that.
Starting point is 01:56:01 I'm like, oh, Tim Pool, we heard about him. He used to work for Vice. He used to do this, this, this, you know, occupied Wall Street, but way back in the day. And like, oh, I've heard of that. I'm like, oh, Tim Pool, we heard about him. He used to work for Vice. He used to do this, this, this. Occupy Wall Street, but way back in the day. Like, oh, yeah, I think. But a lot of the normies, they don't follow Twitter. They don't know what's going on. So how do you feel like that will affect the 2024 election?
Starting point is 01:56:17 Because there is, I think, even more than 2016, more than 2020, a division between people who are online and see one thing. And actual, not even like between people who are online and see one thing and actual, you know, not even like lefties who are offline, like just moderate voters who don't exist in this space. I think they're actually, okay, this is just me guessing and I could be wrong and I'm trying to like set my own biases aside. I think they're actually more base than we think.
Starting point is 01:56:38 I believe that. I believe that. I feel like the left has dragged the barometer so far over that they point to the middle and say, you're far right. Cthulhu always swims left, right? You know, if you follow Curtis Yarvin's stuff at all, how Cthulhu always swims to the left. Because one of his flippers are bigger than the other. Right.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Well, yeah, but it's just always that way. One of the things I've always said is politics always flows left. Yeah. And what that means is if an Antifa guy stands next to a Trump supporter in a photograph, they're both right wing. Right. Or does that mean politics only flows to the right? I don't know. It flows in one direction.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Well, yeah. Take your conventional mainstream well-known conservative like your Ben Shapiro, right? For instance, right? Who we would consider, right? You transport him back in time 100 years. He's a wacko lefty, right? You know what I mean? By 1923 standards, right?
Starting point is 01:57:25 And then if you take, you know, somebody who's on the right from 1923, right? And you transport him to 1823, he's a wacko lefty, right? So it's like always kind of swims to the left, right? And then until there's usually some sort of a reset, you know, not to get all like Kali Yuga. So does that mean that you feel like we're approaching a reset period.
Starting point is 01:57:48 If you feel like the moderate, I wish we weren't, but we probably are. Cause yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people can agree. It's like a vibe, whatever you want to call it,
Starting point is 01:57:55 but like we're back, we're back, we're back. Let's do it. President Reagan. That's going to be called. What would Reagan do? That book's going to come out early in 2024.
Starting point is 01:58:03 All right, here we go. Yeah. Was it Ronald Reagan was a slave to the truth? Ronald Reagan stood up for the truth, whether it was popular or unpopular at the moment. In 1964, he stood up against the John Birch Society when it was very unpopular to the party to do it,
Starting point is 01:58:19 but he would not put up with our party standing for lies and deceit, even if it gave him political progress. That's the kind of president that I will be, and I would draw that inspiration from the 40th president of the United States, Ronald Reagan. Ambassador Haley? Well, I have to say, too, I think George Washington, when you look at the responsibilities he had, how do you go and take on this great American experiment and make sure that the people are protected? And they always knew that government was intended
Starting point is 01:58:50 to secure the rights and freedoms of the people. It was never meant to be all things to all people. And then you look at Abraham Lincoln, and you look at the challenges, and you look at the division that happened in our country, and the ability to lead in spite of the loud noises and say what will bring out the best in them to get us through?
Starting point is 01:59:08 She's saying talking like every job is always something that's important. And I think we need that now more than ever. I feel like she's lost her mind. She doesn't open her mouth when she talks. She's talking like this. Excellent. One of the guys I'll take inspiration from is Calvin Coolidge.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Now, people don't talk about him a lot. He's one of the few presidents that take inspiration from is Calvin Coolidge. Now, people don't talk about him a lot. He's one of the few presidents. He understood the proper role of the federal government under the Constitution. We need to restore the U.S. Constitution as the centerpiece of our national life. And that requires a president who understands the original understanding of the Constitution, who has a good sense of the Bill of Rights, and who knows how we've gone off track with this massive fourth branch of government, this administrative state, which is imposing its will on us and is being weaponized against us. So Silent Cal knew the proper role of the federal government. The country was in great shape when he was president of the United States. And we can learn an awful lot from Calvin Coolidge.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Over to you, Mr. Ron. Okay, well, great. Thanks for chiming in. He's not wrong. I will say Ron picked a president who was born on July 4th. I'll pick one who died on July 4th. It's Thomas Jefferson. He was 33 years old when he wrote the Declaration of Independence, and you all are sitting on a swivel chair today. He invented the swivel chair while he was at it, while writing that Declaration of Independence. That's that founding spirit that we miss, that we're the pioneers. We're the explorers, the guy who sent them out on the Lewis and Clark expeditions. And I think a lot about what Thomas Jefferson say to today's Republican Party. And I think one thing he'd remind us of, we haven't talked about as much tonight, but I think it is one of the interesting
Starting point is 02:00:43 ideological discussions we're having in our party is freedom of speech. You get to express your mind freely no matter how heinous the opinion. Thomas Jefferson understood that. He's an inspiration for me. Thank you, Mr. Ramaswamy. And believe it or not, it's time for closing statements. Governor Christie, would you like to begin? Sure. thank you. I want you all to kind of picture in your minds election day. You'll all be heading to the polls to vote. And that's something that Donald Trump will not do. Because he will be convicted of felonies before then, and his right to vote will be taken away.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Does he not understand the base likes him? Here's the bottom line. You can boo about it all you like and continue to deny reality. But if we deny reality as a party, we're going to have four more years of Joe Biden. My colleagues here raised their hands and said they would support him even if he was a convicted felon. The bigger problem with it is they were confirming the lies he's told to the American people. If you're too timid to take on Trump, believe me, others will see that timidity. Xi,
Starting point is 02:01:48 Putin in the Ayatollah, the border crossers on the southern border, and the criminals in our streets. They'll sense that timidity, and they'll take advantage of that failure of leadership. We need to get back to an old American idea that every person is responsible for their own conduct.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Even a president. I'll be the kind of president who has the humility that knows that you work for the people. It's not the other way around. I will earn your trust. I want to earn your vote.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Thank you, Governor Christie. Mr. Ramaswamy? I'll use this to just address a topic we didn't talk about tonight, but I think it's one of the most important topics that needs to be discussed. That is this climate change agenda that is shackling this country like a set of handcuffs. I said it at the first debate and I stand by it. The climate
Starting point is 02:02:35 change agenda is a hoax because it has nothing to do with the climate. That's what we have to see. 98% reduction in the climate disaster-related deaths in the last century. Eight times as many people are going to die of cold temperatures this year than warm ones. Yet against that backdrop, there's an issue coming up in Iowa. It's core to Iowa farmers. I met Kim Junker, Kathy Stockdale, and other farmers who are about to have a carbon capture pipeline built
Starting point is 02:03:01 across their land using eminent domain to do it. That's unconstitutional and it's wrong. And if you thought COVID was bad, what's coming with this climate agenda is far worse. We should not be bending the knee to this new religion. That is what it is. It is a substitute for a modern religion. We are flogging ourselves and losing our modern way of life, bowing to this new god of climate. And that will end on my watch. Thank you, Ambassador Haley. It's the most critical issue that's coming up. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Thank you very much. Our country is in chaos. We see it on the southern border. We see it on our streets, in our cities. We see it on college campuses. Open your mouth, dude. We feel it with our economy, with inflation, and with debt. Why won't you open your mouth? We feel it with our economy, with inflation and with debt. Why won't she open her mouth?
Starting point is 02:03:47 She probably has Botox. Crazy surgery or something. We have to stop the chaos, but you can't defeat Democrat chaos. It's been a rough labor. And that's what Donald Trump gives us. My approach is different. No drama.
Starting point is 02:04:03 No vendettas. No whining. Just war. I envision an America where we're protected from illegal immigration and Chinese infiltration. I envision an America where we unleash our economy and we reject socialism. But more importantly, I envision an America where we rediscover our national purpose and our pride. Thank you. I crushed Joe Biden in the polls. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:04:29 And if you give me this chance, we will crush him in November and take our country back. Maybe her teeth are just too big. Weird. Veneers? Yeah. I wonder if she's feeling stressed and emotional. There's still one more. I forgot.
Starting point is 02:04:44 There's one more. I forgot. We are in jeopardy of being the first generation of Americans to leave to our kids and grandkids in America less prosperous and less free than the one we inherited. I refuse to sit idly by and let that happen. But we've got to have people that are going to be willing to fight the people that are doing this to us. You can't be these establishment Republicans that just cave at the first sign of opposition. I'll fight for you. We also need to win again as a party. Yes, win the election, which we've struggled to do, but also win on these big issues.
Starting point is 02:05:13 And nobody has defeated these people more than what I have done in the state of Florida on issue after issue. We have won and we have won big. And that's what we'll do for you. We also need leadership. Leadership is not about doing what's easy. It's about being willing to set out that vision, knowing they're going to shoot arrows at you. They're going to come at you.
Starting point is 02:05:32 I will fight the good fight. I will keep the faith that I will finish the race. Thank you. And God bless you. Thank you, all of you. Mike drop. Can I tell you something, if I if if i may real quick is if you guys might remember back in 2016 during the democratic debates which was like a hilarious like you know joke they asked the like you know the final closing out arguments to say who is it somebody that you're proud to call your enemy right and it was like bernie sanders like the nra or somebody and hillary clinton's like republicans or whatever and then they had, you guys remember James Webb? You guys remember he ran?
Starting point is 02:06:07 What a throwback. He was a senator from Virginia, former secretary of the Navy under Reagan, also kind of like one of my personal heroes who I looked up to as a kid, Naval Academy guy, Vietnam War hero, all this. And what he says, it was great. And he was too base for Democrats.
Starting point is 02:06:20 He goes, the North Vietnamese infantry officer who threw a grenade at me, but he's not around to talk about it anymore. Is that the guy they named the James Webb telescope after? No, different guy. Totally different James Webb. When I saw that, it was like, Democrats couldn't handle that.
Starting point is 02:06:37 I think it's clear after watching this, a tremendous performance by some of the candidates, and we all now know who the nominee is going to be, Donald Trump. Donald Trump. I donald trump so thanks thanks everyone for hanging out for two hours so that we could uh confirm that it would be donald trump but i gotta give it up i do think it was good i think ron actually it's his best debate performance you do well i still think he's got he's got a personality problem for his and his campaign is poorly run there is but there's a lot of really great points when it comes to cultural issues nicki haley lied chris christie lied the most so i pulled up i
Starting point is 02:07:08 pulled the article i tweeted it out from politico chris christie signed the bill on the trans bathroom stuff and other trans rights and other really he's lying and he knows he's in trouble yeah with that nicki haley also did say parental rights she also did say she will make it so you can't be anonymous yeah she's gaffed way too much. So, you know, Iran and Vivek. Vivek obviously took the night. But I want to make sure I point out Vivek is speaking to us.
Starting point is 02:07:34 Of course. There's a lot of people he's not speaking to. Sure. So we saw in his first debate performance, he actually saw favorability go up and unfavorability go up. Sure. So there were a lot of people who didn't know who he was. Right. And he polarized. I mean, honestly, a lot of people who didn't know who he was and he polarized. Yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly,
Starting point is 02:07:46 I think Vivek can, you know, write his ticket in the Trump administration. And Chris Christie can write his for the Newsom administration. You're not wrong. But I don't think the Newsom administration,
Starting point is 02:07:57 I mean, they would take him just to eventually kick him out in a dramatic way because he is a Republican. No, Newsom is going to be like, we're going to bring unity to this country. Yeah, it'll be unity. We want Republicans on is going to be like, we're going to bring unity to this country. We want
Starting point is 02:08:06 Republicans on our side. Chris Christie, I need your help. No, he would take Liz Cheney because Liz Cheney's never endorsed Trump whereas this guy has. But I think that's the point of what Chris Christie's going for. Unpopular statement guys, so I think it's a matter of time before Gavin Newsom is president. One of these days. I mean, he's still
Starting point is 02:08:21 relatively young. You don't think so? I'm not saying 24. I think he'll campaign. i'm not saying i'm not saying i think he'll campaign i'm not saying 24 no really okay guy oh no i hope i'm wrong and i hope you're right he doesn't have it right you don't think so no absolutely not okay he's a mitt romney type okay right like the governor you know mitt romney's a governor he's a senator and then he runs for president and it's just like but joe biden old mitt romney joe biden was the mitt romney type he was so gross in 08 when i was watching them debate the other thing is like the democrats have this identity issue which is that they they don't want white men in office anymore so theoretically they could run gavin newsom he's good on some positions but he's a
Starting point is 02:08:59 white man and this is going to continue to be one of the issue that bifurcates the voters in that party this is something that joe biden was like hinting at during his campaign like i'll i'll be the last of the old guard just just let me this one time and now he doesn't want to leave and if they put in a j gavin newsom it'll be the same thing with it with gavin i look at this way it's like gavin is charming he is charismatic he is handsome and i mean guess what that matters you guys a lot more than people are willing to admit sure and when people watch everyone's i watch him every once in a while talk about certain things i'm like son of a bitch but but he's he's like he can spin like there's no he doesn't have the x factor i hope you're right yeah he doesn't know okay i mean he may he may be like you know
Starting point is 02:09:41 he may be tier one but he is not special tier right there's people who are well above sure i would say gavin newsom falls into your standard ranking of politicians on the high end okay but trump obama i wouldn't necessarily say george w bush but yes the people become presidents have something above everybody except biden yeah but biden was anti-trump yeah after he won so newsome winning maybe as an anti-campaign sure but that's that's happened like very rarely in this country newsome is he's he may be top tier but he's not special class trump trump is something magical and i don't like i mean like his persona his character his story, his golden toilet. There is a uniqueness to his arc.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Gavin Newsom is a background character. It's charisma mixed with intelligence. I don't get the intelligence out of Gavin. I don't know him as well, but Obama had intelligence and charisma. Trump had intelligence and charisma. That's a big combo. Gavin Newsom is Bradley Cooper in Wedding Crashers. Bradley Cooper went on to become a big, famous actor.
Starting point is 02:10:43 He's got a prominent role in the movie but he's not the main character yeah another big issue it's it's Donald Trump up there in the front with Vince Vaughn and Bradley Cooper is Gavin Newsom and they're supporting and but one thing as well that's interesting to point out though is that you've noticed that Gavin Newsom I might be wrong on this you can fact check me but he rarely goes hard or goes after trump directly at all now granted there's a family connection between the trumps and the newsome family like not people aren't aware of you know gilfoyle yeah gilfoyle yeah who's now like but you know she was married to newsome right right yeah and it's like but he very rarely like newsome very
Starting point is 02:11:21 rarely goes after trump directly you know what i mean and it's almost like and even and even like, remember there's a massive California wildfires back in the day when Trump was in office, Trump came out and there sees the two of them walking together. Right. And also like, Hey, during when, you know,
Starting point is 02:11:33 when Gavin had that debate with DeSantis, well, I thought Gavin did really well. When you watch Gavin have that interview with handy, he like, who else goes on Fox? Like I'll go on Fox. And like,
Starting point is 02:11:43 guess what? Like, you know, I thought Gavin Newsom, like I hated to admit admit it, but, like, oh, man, he body slammed Hannity. I had a vision. He did a great job against Hannity. I was, like, meditating. Which is not much, but you know what I mean. I had this, like, vision where I was hanging out with Newsom and Ramaswamy together.
Starting point is 02:11:56 Like, the three of us were hanging out talking about stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that was a good feeling. What did you talk about? It was just as vague as that. Nothing, like, specifics, but I just, like, felt the presence of the two of them working together that was kind of an interesting but every once i watched that guy talk and i'm just like i know he's lying all that but son of a bitch he's the thing is he has he has the personality he could do it i think with him
Starting point is 02:12:18 not critiquing trump directly it's almost right now at least because he doesn't want to upset the dnc and biden administration If he starts attacking Trump directly, it makes it more obvious he sees himself as the heir apparent and should be the Democratic nominee, which I think he has to tiptoe around because when he was debating DeSantis, he went out of his way to defend Biden, right?
Starting point is 02:12:37 He needs the Biden support. He needs their institution support as much as he needs to. And Newsom's taking his time. I mean, he's still relatively young. He's got time. He's kind of like time i mean he's still relatively young he's got time he's kind of like waiting on he's kind of on the bench in case something happens he's hanging out and like he's got time he doesn't you know like for you know for trump for instance like
Starting point is 02:12:53 this is like trump's last shot yeah i want to i want to play this clip and wokeness just posted here we go i'm sitting opposite you but you are a little overweight. A little. Yeah. Yeah. Why? If I could figure that out, I'd fix it. Do you try to diet? I think I can figure it out. Barbara, I've had more diets and lost and gained back more weight in my lifetime than I care to count.
Starting point is 02:13:17 There are people who say that you couldn't be president because you're so heavy. What do you say to them? No, that's ridiculous. Taft was president. But I completely agree. Yeah, it's a weird thing. Come on, man. Cal? No, that's ridiculous. Taft was president. But I completely agree. Yeah, it's a weird thing. Dude, come on, man.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Calories in, calories out. Don't even, don't even, and they're not, I don't think all food products are the exact same. So I really don't, there are people who are like, it's just calories in, calories out.
Starting point is 02:13:38 And I'm like, it's technically true, but it doesn't help someone who's like Chris Christie. Yo, Chris, stop eating the bread and the carbs and the sugar. Not kidding.
Starting point is 02:13:44 Higher protein, high fat. You get some veggies in there. Yo, Chris, stop eating the bread and the carbs and the sugar. Not kidding. Higher protein, high fat. You get some veggies in there. The dude has clearly not talked to a nutritionist. He has clearly not even tried. And I've seen him in person up close, right? One time. And I was like, oh my God. It's huge.
Starting point is 02:13:59 And to be honest, a lot of the suits he wears, those suits are actually pretty slimming, if that's anything. But it's real bad. And he's actually probably fairly... His legs are probably super ripped because they have to carry all that weight.
Starting point is 02:14:13 But it's one of those things where it sounds great, but when you see somebody who's that big, you're like, okay, there's something going on there. There's something deeper than just like... It's like, well, why is this? Why is that? I'm not trying to like psychoanalyze. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:14:26 He got a lap band surgery in February 2013. That's when you get like a belt wrapped around his stomach. Wait, he got a lap band? He still? He lost a hundred pounds. That's where it's like, if he's saying like. And then he weighed at 320. Whoa.
Starting point is 02:14:37 If he has like some crazy thyroid issue, right? Like that's the only way it could be like, maybe it's really difficult for you to lose weight. Yeah, but that means he's not trying. And also maybe I don't need you to be president because if you have unexplained medical conditions, maybe this is not the move. It's like being an alcoholic. We were talking about this the other day because our spin drifts are certified gluten-free, for whatever reasons.
Starting point is 02:14:56 For whatever reason. And so, you know, I cut out most carbs and now I've eliminated bread and gluten from my diet. And I actually feel better than oh 100 dude like my like even my skateboarding yeah clips that i've gotten some of these tricks you know some of the best i've ever done sure and uh at 37 i was like wow i i kind of think the bread is messing me up i've long thought that i do i do think cutting out carbs helps but uh we were talking about it and you know it usually goes to it's probably not the bread it's the chemicals they put in bread in the united states i'm sure because when we've had uh european bread imported flour
Starting point is 02:15:30 and things like this or pure organic yeah it is different it is different yeah and like look i'm not suggesting that like hey if you got to be running for public office you need like be the paragon of fitness or anything but holy crap you guys like that's that's yeah that's a lot it's a health risk and that's a risk to our national security if the president falls down and has a heart attack in the middle of the day on a Tuesday. Like, what's that going to do to the country? Oh, dude, look. Can't risk that. We've got, you know, Foo Fighters drummer, right?
Starting point is 02:15:56 He died. Taylor Hawkins. Yeah, experiencing chest pains and then dies. Yeah. And at first they claimed he had drugs in the system, but then the band, I guess, claimed that's not true. He was not doing drugs. Yeah, and so I'm like, dude, if a fit drummer, and they said he was super exhausted because they were playing like crazy,
Starting point is 02:16:13 if someone that fit is going to die of a heart issue or whatever, you know, Chris Christie. Cut out the azzo dies, Chris Christie. And also say what you want about George W. Bush. That dude is running like a sub 25K in office. I mean, that dude, Bush was fit. He was athletic. I was reading a little bit about Christie.
Starting point is 02:16:33 He used to be an athlete, and then he quit in his 20s to get into politics, and that was when he was at his 80s. Was he skinny? No, he was like 350 pounds in college. Whoa. 350 in college? It was 322. A3 22, like football. Yo, look at this. Look at this. Whoa. 350 in college? It was 322. A3 22, like football.
Starting point is 02:16:46 Yo, look at this. Look at this. Yeah. That's Chris. Who's that young Chad? That's the thing. Some athletes carry a lot of weight and that number sounds weird.
Starting point is 02:16:56 He's like total Chad bro. Man, I want him to be healthy. You know he got it in you, Chris. What? There's no excuse, man. Intermittent fasting, really. It's elimination itself. What?
Starting point is 02:17:10 Yeah, he's eating garbage and he doesn't care. He's like, if I could figure it out, I'd tell you. Nah, that's not even it. That picture of him in a baseball uniform.
Starting point is 02:17:17 People that are like, I don't eat that much, but then they snack and they don't realize how much is much, you know? What's that picture of him in the baseball uniform earlier? There we go.
Starting point is 02:17:24 That's a cool one. Jersey boy. I see why they like him. He's like my teenager but that like dude's total chat total stud that's the politician that i would vote like a guy like that i'm like he's a leader right the weight issue though is that's wild just his lack of self-control he started eating and he didn't stop like like look man you can't you cannot gain weight if you're not consuming food yeah i'm not saying starve yourself. I'm saying go talk to a doctor, nutritionist. There are ways they can help. We were watching this.
Starting point is 02:17:50 I watched the show a long time ago. You can probably Google it and figure out which one it is. And they track people and what they eat all day. And there's these two morbidly obese women who are like, we don't eat that much. For breakfast, I have a salad. And for lunch, I have a sandwich. And I keep gaining weight. And so they follow them around all day filming them. At the end of the day, they're like, how many calories do you think you ate? And she's like, well, for breakfast, I had a sandwich and I keep gaining weight. And so they follow him around all day filming him.
Starting point is 02:18:05 At the end of the day, they're like, how many calories do you think you ate? And she's like, well, for breakfast, I had two eggs and bacon. So that's maybe 300 calories. And then I had for lunch a salad. So that's maybe 400 because of the dressing. So I think I'm maybe around 900.
Starting point is 02:18:17 And they're like, you're at 37 because you were eating chocolates and you were eating chips. Because every few minutes you'd walk past and grab a cookie out of a bowl and eat it and they were like all of the snacks you ate totaled thousands of calories oh yep hey if we wanted to put a talk about deep flaws on when it comes to candidates one of the things like despite all the corruption with Nikki Haley and all that here's the thing and like I know this might sound like some weird unpopular opinion and it might
Starting point is 02:18:41 sound strange but it's like okay you were a very popular governor in it at you know in south carolina you were the un ambassador a lot of people like you your well-known household name right even before she started running for president this time you got a book deal all this stuff and it's like oh well she and richard and on the board of boeing are you kidding me and that's like she's only worth in like eight million dollars like I know it sounds weird but like For for that level of game BuzzFeed news actually wrote an article ten years ago called seven photos of a skinny Chris Christie Oh, wow, the New Jersey governor recently had a lap band surgery to reduce his weight at the urging of his family
Starting point is 02:19:22 Well, then we're outed. Yeah, it didn't work. It didn't take. We're going to wrap things up here. This is a debate night. We don't do members only on debate nights because we don't know how long they go. You kind of have a general idea. Now we're going to wrap it up there. We'll be back tomorrow, of course, with the regular show and news segments and all that. You can smash the like button,
Starting point is 02:19:42 subscribe to this channel, share the show. Head over to TimCast.com. Click join us. Become join us become a member watch infringed the new documentary by lauren southern came out just a month or two months ago i think now right about a month about a month i think a little oh right it was beginning of november yeah so it's it's really great and we recommend it it's uh showing people gun culture explaining the importance of gun rights and you should definitely check it out and as a member you're helping us do all of that, so we've got more documentaries being planned. We're launching one of the biggest private skateboard facilities
Starting point is 02:20:10 on the East Coast because we are building culture. Yeah, several million dollars. Hell yeah. We're investing several million dollars into a gigantic private skate facility. Several pro skateboarders are coming out. We're going to be wrapping in all the action sports and pro elements because we are going to build and we are going to take over the culture and push out the woke elements and we're already starting to win and
Starting point is 02:20:30 that's thanks to all of your support so again become a member at timcast.com if you think that is a good thing you can follow me at timcast everywhere follow at the uh no it was at boonies hq on on instagram i believe is the is the handle. I think so. And we're on YouTube. So follow the Boonies on YouTube or search for BooniesHQ. I'm not sure which one it is on YouTube. Do you know? Either way, you'll find it. No, I'm looking. We just put up.
Starting point is 02:20:53 We got a bunch of skate edits that are going up. And the new facility is currently under construction. All the kitchen appliances are coming in. Yo, free domicile is coming along. It's going to be super amazing. We're building a massive concrete outdoor section a massive wooden indoor section and we're going to have mega ramps we're going to have a lot because uh as the i was told by these uh large industry pros if you build it they will come and so we intend to and we've already had several
Starting point is 02:21:20 victories against the weird woke nonsense that i'll get into later because um we're going to play this one light and not just go for the throat a lot of the woke people are trying to destroy our industry but i really do appreciate everyone's support we're going to be building a lot of culture coffee shop of course go to casper.com you can follow the show at timcast irl tom you want to shout anything out yeah my name is tom sour at thomas b sour on the twitter x machine uh i'm the owner of Miramar Health. We are in the life-saving business. We are here to save veterans' lives from addiction and mental health.
Starting point is 02:21:50 I've been in D.C. right now pushing for expanded access to veterans' care through the VA, and that's what I've come out here. I'm out in D.C. once a month talking to folks on the Hill, and we're really pushing hard to get the VA to increase the access standards so when a veteran is showing up to their VA provider in an addiction or mental health crisis, that the VA should put that person into a bed, in a treatment center, within 72 hours, which is not a crazy ask, and currently it's like a month.
Starting point is 02:22:23 So that's what I'm here for. I push for Miramar Health as a company. Thomas Biesauer, thank you so much for having me, you guys not a crazy ask. And currently it's like a month. So that's what I'm here for. I push for Miramar Health as the company. Thomas Biesauer, thank you so much for having me, you guys. Love being here. Looked forward to come back for a third time. Yeah, it's been awesome having you on. It was a fun night to be on. I know, it's wild.
Starting point is 02:22:35 Us and all our friends at the GOP, I guess. I'm Hannah Claire Brimlow. I'm a writer for scnr.com, also known as Scanner News. Shout out to all the team that works there. Chris Carr, Chris Burtman, and Cassandra fairbanks mcdonald fairbanks mcdonald's and adrian norman and i'm forgetting if there's anyone else but guys you're all you're all amazing you want to follow at timcast news on instagram and twitter still you can see scanners work there if you want to follow me personally i'm on instagram at hankler.b and i'm on uh twitter at hc brimlow Thank you so much. Thank you, Hannah Clare. It is Boonies HQ on YouTube.
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Starting point is 02:23:39 message me on twix follow me at surge.com see you guys uh tomorrow so with boonies hq and with the coffee shop we're launching our location in martinsburg is beginning the process of launching our second floor private club hangout and skate shop and so our initial plan is going to be it's going to be private uh so if you're a member of timcast.com or of uh boonies hq because there will be a separate membership for the other website then you have membership access to come and hang out in the physical location and we're going to have skate gear equipment and other things and it's going to be at uh lower rates because you're members so effectively like a costco style but for for a skate shop and uh you're going to hang out.
Starting point is 02:24:25 Right now we're ordering sofas. We're going to put two TVs facing away from each other with PlayStation, Xbox, video game consoles. So you can play multiplayer, play video games, hang out. And a lot more planned for the space. It's decently large. It's going to be a lot of fun. There's going to be a little mini bar hangout. But it's private.
Starting point is 02:24:42 So there's a lot we can do with a private space. And we're hoping to have that up very, very soon because it's actually really, really easy to do. All we got to do is order the stuff and put it in there and then have someone open the door and y'all can come hang out. Going to be super exciting. The coffee shop. There's a lot of construction that has to happen. So that's taking forever. But the private club section is going to be super easy.
Starting point is 02:25:05 So that's coming really, really soon. And really excited. Thanks for hanging out. And we'll see you all tomorrow. you

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