Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #920 ALEX JONES RETURNS, Elon Musk Restores Jones, Rumble Hit By CYBER ATTACK w/Anna Perez

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Tim, Ian, Luke, & Serge join Anna Perez to discuss Alex Jones' account being reinstated on X, Alex Jones exposing the left trying to censorship political opponents, Rumble being targeted in a major cy...ber attack, & the Missouri AG launching an investigation into Media Matters. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:02 They said, we want Alex Jones back. And so Elon Musk has restored poll. The people spoke. They said, we want Alex Jones back. And so Elon Musk has restored him. Following this, Elon Musk, Alex Jones, the Tate brothers, Vivek Ramaswamy, many others joined an X space. We call them X spaces. And it was particularly interesting talking about free speech and where we're currently at. Alex Jones went on Steven Crowder's show talking about the PR firms that were going
Starting point is 00:01:25 after him. And interestingly, all day, Rumble has been under a sustained distributed denial of service attack, which I can only assume is political based on what's going on. The media, of course, is losing their collective minds. And another component of the story is that apparently during the space on X, Vivek Ramaswamy left his mic on and relieved himself in the bathroom while everyone listened. And I don't believe that's true. That's what they're claiming. It actually kind of sounds like, I don't know, he was washing his hands or making an espresso
Starting point is 00:01:55 or something. It certainly does not sound like he's using the bathroom, but his mic was left on. So we'll talk about that. We got a bunch of other stories. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a victory, victory, victory kind of day starting off, especially with the return of not just Alex Jones, but also Owen Schroer, who's out of jail. And we're also hearing that not just the president of UPenn, but also one of their board members, I believe the chair, have resigned over this major scandal. And Saturday Night Live is getting slammed because guess what? Guess who they sided with? They made Elise
Starting point is 00:02:23 Stefanik, the Republican rep, look stupid. They mocked her and tried to make the presidents of these universities look good. The interesting thing is the president of Harvard apparently is now embroiled in a plagiarism scandal. So we'll get into all that. But before we get started, my friends, head over to the best song ever dot com and click preorder on Amazon, which you can see right there and buy the song for 69 cents together again is the best song ever written. And I can say it because I didn't write it.
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Starting point is 00:04:02 So don't forget to also smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends if you really do like it joining us to talk about this and everything else is anna perez yeah thank you for having me tim and everyone i'm really excited to be here and uh i uh oops i have to bring my mic closer um and i host a show on wrong called wrong think on conservative daily i host a show called wrong thing primetime on the stu Network. So yeah, I'm really excited to jump in. Obviously, we have a lot of news as it pertains to Rumble. So that affected me today.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So I'm excited to talk about that. A bunch of people's streams were shut down. Yeah. And interestingly, right around the time Steven Crowder was talking to Alex Jones, I couldn't get the site to load. So yeah, we'll talk about it. Thanks for hanging out. And guess who's back? Welcome back! Beautiful and amazing human beings. My name is Zyrkadowski here of
Starting point is 00:04:45 wearechange.org and it's an incredible time to be alive. It almost feels like it's a renaissance. We have an anarchistic president of Argentina that is firing bureaucrats about to shut down their central bank. Owen Schroyer was just released from jail. Alex Jones was just reinstated and did a space with Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Patrick David, Congressman Matt Gaetz. Holy frickin cow. It definitely seems like the tide is turning. I host, of course, the best political show dot com.
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Starting point is 00:05:42 willing to risk and sacrifice their lives for what they believe in or standing out. It's really, really hit me hard the other night. So let's just get to this, Serge. What's happening, brother? Word up. Good to have you back, Luke. Serge. Yeah, I'm Serge.com.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I'm ready when you are, Tim. All right, ladies and gentlemen, the big news over the weekend, and we're using Snopes for our story here because, believe it or not, the least biased story about the return of Alex Jones, sort of, is Snopes. Fact check. Yes. Alex Jones's ex-account was reinstated by Elon Musk, the founder of conspiracy theory website InfoWars, was banned from Twitter, currently known as X, in 2018 and reinstated in 2023. Now, I do want to just point out, if you're going to call InfoWars a conspiracy theory website, I can call Snopes, CNN, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal. The list goes on. We can call them all conspiracy theory websites
Starting point is 00:06:38 because they all run stories and have historically done so. Like the idea that the government was spying on us. Conspiracy theory. Oh, was that true? How about Russiagate? That was one that wasn't true. They all run lies and conspiracies. But they do use this photo of a very angry looking Alex Jones. Claim.
Starting point is 00:06:56 In December 2023, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' Twitter account, Real Alex Jones, was reinstated by Elon Musk after having been banned for abusive behavior since 2018. True. I love this one. And then they show a Reddit post. Alex Jones and his conspiracy theories are allowed back on X. Here's the actual poll in question with one million nine hundred and sixty six thousand one hundred twenty five votes. Reinstate Alex Jones on the platform Vox Populi Vox Day and 70.1% said yes. Well, there you have it. Of course, the media is absolutely losing their mind over the return of Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:07:31 They're saying a whole bunch of really dumb things, and they're insulting Elon Musk over the whole thing. But let's just call this a major victory. Well, conspiracy theories are really just spoiler alerts. They're just news headlines six months ahead of the time. And I am pissed off at the cultural appropriation of something that I've been labeled for over 20 years. Conspiracy theories have, of course, a new day and age on this Internet. As, of course, no one takes the term seriously anymore, as a lot of the people who are accused of it have usually been right.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And it's beautiful. It's amazing to see this kind of emotional hyperbolic freak out from CNN, from the Rolling Stones, from all these other establishment type rags that are losing their minds at people just being able to speak for themselves and having discernment and having conversations that they can't control. Al Gore recently came out and said the dangers to democracy are specifically because people are able to get news outside of the corporate media control. We are winning. It's amazing. It's beautiful. And them losing their mind is a testament to just how far we have come. Yeah. And I think that that's exactly what they sought to do. They really thought that they could
Starting point is 00:08:39 get rid of Alex Jones. And I think that's been really interesting to watch because if there's one thing that I've noticed in the past couple of years it's that they can cancel you from certain platforms they can cancel you from certain corporate corporations but at the end of the day if you have a certain following and you've been proven right time and time again and that's certainly the case with alex jones you're still there's still going to be a population of people that want to hear from you they're going to seek you out and as far as a business owner somebody like elon musk if he's you know if he owns x then it's going to be the smart thing to do to allow him to be sought out on his platform so i i think what you
Starting point is 00:09:18 see a lot with figures like alex is they just they try to they think that if they remove the platform that they can remove him but he already has his following and that wasn't going anywhere people were going to seek him out regardless on the show on the x episode if you haven't watched it after this show you got to watch the x show where all these guys on it andrew tate came in he said everything people think they own things you think you own your house if you have paperwork that says that if a government comes in and says now they sign some new paperwork you don't have anything all you have is your integrity and that's something that alex has stuck with for his entire career which i appreciate and i think that's why he's still popular i think elon musk is doing the the obvious thing in terms
Starting point is 00:09:53 of free speech i don't believe that elon musk ever really bought the reason for alex jones's ban so uh when elon buys twitter he says well you know alex jged on, you know, Sandy Hook families and said horrible things about him. So I'm not bringing him back. I don't think Elon actually believed it. I think what Elon was actually saying, and again, my opinion, I could be totally wrong about this because I can't read Elon's mind. He was probably saying, guys, there's only so much I can do. Like, give me time. I think Elon was like, yeah, he didn't break the rules.
Starting point is 00:10:21 He just says crazy things. But but Elon's like, yo, we're trying to maintain control here and gradually move the line. If we just go nuts and just unleash the dam right now, we can get shut down like they did the parlor. But I think there's actually something really simple in all this, too. We can sit here and say Elon Musk is ideologically motivated and fighting the good fight. Sure. But let's be realistic about the business prospects of what he did on X. Like you mentioned, Alex Jones' audience still exists. So the analogy I gave earlier on my channel was like the poll Elon Musk did was like imagine you owned a cupcake shop and all your customers are in the lobby.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And you just yell, how many of you would buy a pumpkin cupcake? And they all raise their hand. Well, then you go and make it. That's it. Elon Musk is asking his customers what kind of product they want. But here's the funny thing. Just like with the Daily Wire making all these movies, Elon Musk is looking at Alex Jones getting millions of views while being banned from everywhere. And he's thinking, if I let Alex Jones on Twitter, I have a always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer.
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Starting point is 00:12:16 to bring engagement to the platform. We're going to make money. Let's roll. And it pushes the Overton window. And I think it's not an accident that a lot of this is happening on the heels of Apple, Disney, Comcast, and other major corporations saying, hey, we're no longer going to advertise on, of course, Twitter and X. Elon Musk responded saying in a very French way, screw off. And by doing so, he could say it, but when his actions are met by bringing back Alex Jones, that's the biggest F off kind of moment that you could have that are far more powerful than just the words that he used. But imagine, because it's not just these corporations.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's not just Facebook. It's not just YouTube. It's not individuals banning Alex Jones from all these social media platforms. There are federal agents that orchestrated all of this. There are federal agencies that literally worked on silencing and making sure that no one could hear Alex Jones, his opinions or his perspectives at all.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Imagine being that federal agent right now. A couple years ago, I'd be like, yes, we banned him on Spotify. We banned him on all these other... LinkedIn. He's not even on LinkedIn. Doesn't matter. We banned him here. We banned him here. We banned him here.. We banned him on all these other LinkedIn. He's not even on LinkedIn. Doesn't matter. We banned him here. We banned him here. We banned him here.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And now he's on one of the biggest shows with Elon Musk speaking to the world with millions of people listening to him and more and more people are going to go to that platform. I know I am. One of our super chats, Greg Duvier says that he's asking the elites would still have control of Twitter if they didn't ban the Babylon Bee. And I said, I bet they regret that every day. I don't think that's the real reason Elon Musk bought Twitter. And I say this because I was at a party in Austin with a bunch of big tech bros and people who are friends with Elon and a bunch of other conservative commentators and libertarians.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And the whole conversation was around how they use big tech to censor and control culture. And I was arguing with them like, guys, culture is more important than technology. Technology is important, but like winning the culture matters. And their argument, Elon wasn't there or anything, but their argument was basically, if they ban you, you can't make culture at all. If on Twitter, they have banned all instances of a certain word, then they are forcing, you know, they've basically created a path that the only path you can go down. And so unsurprisingly,
Starting point is 00:14:28 Elon ends up buying the platform. It may be that the final straw was the Babylon Bee got banned. I think that's a good narrative, especially for someone like Elon. But I kind of feel like this is a long time coming. I think Elon's paying attention
Starting point is 00:14:42 to all this stuff. He didn't adopt these views one day. You know, it's not like all of a sudden he's like, what? They banned the Babylon Bee. All of a sudden I'm for free speech. Oh, he's probably supported this stuff for a very long time. Yeah, and I think, well, it's a similar concept to kind of the sigh up of every single conservative needs to move out of cities.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Here's the reality. Somebody has to make a cultural difference. And right now, the only way to really do that is to have some sort of influence on in cities where the cultural hubs are now. Is that good culture that we have right now? No, but it's the same thing as social media platforms. Like as much as we don't want to have to participate in, you know, walking around, walking on eggshells when it comes to these social media platforms like we did for so long with Twitter, we have to have a presence on these apps, on these social media platforms in order to make some sort of cultural change as conservatives and so i think you're right elon did the right thing elon did something where he saw okay well the only
Starting point is 00:15:34 way for this for there to be a fair sort of you know cultural balance out there would be to give conservatives the opportunity to be on this app and uh i think it he it wasn't necessarily like a political move, per se, although he'll argue he's free speech. I don't think the guy is. I don't I think that if he were, he would bring back Nick Fuentes. And I think that he wouldn't have created the poll. And maybe we differ on that or we disagree on that. But I think that the poll was all about self-preservation and was more about and to be fair, feds would have come after him, too. So to your point, like, you know, there were feds would have come after him too so to your point like
Starting point is 00:16:05 you know there were feds involved in silencing people like alex jones and even nick fuentes and others like that so uh i think it's all about well i can point back to this was the people's decision and they might still come after him but at the end of the day like i do think that was partly an opportunity for himself to for him to protect himself but i think ultimately he did it for there to be some sort of balance out there which i i think is good but again not necessarily politically motivated that's that's a good point uh if he was for free speech he wouldn't need a poll he'd just say alex you're fine nick you're fine milo you're fine you're back don't worry about it they wouldn't have banned kanye west yeah yeah he's still banned right i believe so and i think so so are so is milo as well yay posted
Starting point is 00:16:46 the realism symbol which looks like a star of dave with a swastika in it but realism like what is it like they believe aliens or something seeded earth i don't know what they believe but it but it to those who have no idea what it is it looks like something meant to be offensive he gets banned for this i think if elon was for free speech he wouldn't need a poll that's a good point and i think maybe elon's motivation is actually simple. He wants to colonize Mars. He wants a neural link. And he's thinking, look, that meme he posted where it's the left moving further and further left. He's realized what many of us have realized. You said as conservatives. I don't consider myself conservative and Luke doesn't consider himself conservative. This coalition of individuals who believe in free speech is is wide elon probably said the majority of people think these things i wouldn't be surprised if he had like a marketing consultant and he was like where is the sentiment are they really you know lefty and woke and they're like no it's probably like 12 percent elon's like okay so our path forward for popular success is going to be embracing these principles that people actually do like
Starting point is 00:17:43 he probably sees the wind moving in a particular direction, especially with this election. And he's like, OK, how do we get ahead of it? How do we put ourselves in a way where we could still win while the whole system kind of collapses onto itself? So I agree with you on that one particular point. Yes, he's trying to kind of protect himself with this poll, but I don't think it's even the poll. I think it's even bigger than this if you look at his contracts with the defense
Starting point is 00:18:08 industry with the U.S military with the Pentagon when it comes to Starlink when it comes to providing Ukraine and Israel satellite technology that are used for defensive and offensive capabilities those capabilities are at his disposal to use and implement as he wants that to me in my opinion is why he's going to be kind of protected here and if it wasn't for those kind of larger government contracts and the larger kind of game that he plays with a lot of the bigger kind of players here i think he would have been gone i think he would have been destroyed a long time ago and i think this really does play a central role in a lot of this. So I got Alex Jones pulled over right here.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And one of his tweets from 22 minutes ago, Jack Posobiec issues emergency warning, deep state planning direct war with Russia as October surprise. Now, this is from Jack Posobiec, Alex Jones putting out this information. This is exactly why they don't want Alex Jones having a voice. Because y'all remember when Alex Jones went on a show and said that come February, there's going to be a war. It's going to be big. And then when Russia invaded Ukraine, everybody immediately was tweeting Alex Jones was right. He predicted this.
Starting point is 00:19:17 They were all sharing this clip from several months prior. My favorite thing about this is everyone's like, how did Alex Jones know a war was going to start? How did he know? He's just so smart. He can see it. And so I talked to him and he was like, I just read the news. It was in the news.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like, this is the funny thing. Alex is a guy who reads the news and then says it. He like looks at all these articles and brings them together. Granted, he says a lot of crazy things. He gets crazy things wrong. Like he was talking about cell phones and animal hybrids, whatever that's about. But he gets a lot of things right when it comes to this stuff it wasn't
Starting point is 00:19:46 shocking to anybody who actually listens to him that he accurately called out a war because all he was doing was holding up like articles from the ap so he's doing here with retweeting jack posobic he's not actually exactly that's my point and it's not just him it's members of the polish government members of the german government coming out one of germans uh germany's top soldier just came out and said that they are of course planning on potentially even having a defensive war against russia of course there's there's no such thing it's an offensive war but this is something that it's not just alex jones talking about government officials are actually talking about this and setting down essentially the groundwork for what could be a big potential conflict that could potentially unfold, especially
Starting point is 00:20:25 right before this election. I want to pull up this tweet from Steven Crowder. It is from his discussion with Alex Jones this morning. He says, quote, This was a strategic Democratic Party and PR operation. Alex Jones clears the air on why his Twitter account was banned, how it feels to be reinstated on X by Elon, as well as what his future plans are. So let's play this clip so we can hear it straight from Crowder's show. Because of something to do with Sandy Hook.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And a lot of people think that you were banned from Twitter because of something to do with Sandy Hook. And Elon clarified that the reason you were banned from Twitter had to do with that sniveling worm, Oliver Darcy. Nothing to do with Sandy Hook. But the actual reason for sending him was he basically insulted a journalist. They deplatform us for a bunch of made up crazy stuff. The last thing was Oliver Darcy. Later, before they ever sued me, they were saying I'm
Starting point is 00:21:16 the Sandy Hook guy and I'm attacking the families and sending people to their houses. And none of it was true. And no one was even going to their houses and people are peeing on graves. And then it was true. None of that was even shown in court. They were allowed to just get up and say it with no evidence because I was already found guilty. And so I started saying, hey, I think it happened. I'd already said that, by the way. I did an apology to her on Joe Rogan and Patrick McDavid before I even got sued and said, hey, here I am years ago saying I think it happened.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And they said, oh, now you admit you lied and did it for money. This was strategic Democratic Party PR firm operation. saying i think it happened they said oh now you admit you lied and did it for money this was strategic democratic party pr firm operation um a lot of people think that i uh i i think so i think we know for a fact that right now as we're entering 2024 i mean so this was back in 2018 entering 2024 we have i'm not going to name the groups. You guys can if you want to. They're these Democrat, PR, Democrat, nonprofit, 501c4 type organizations. All they do is launch lawsuits in order to win elections. If you think the 2024 election is simply how many people can go and cast their ballot, you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:19 A whole lot of it is going to be procedural fights. It's going to be court battles. And I think a big component of why not just Alex Jonesones because it was a coordinated move that got him banned like we can see him wiped from every platform instantly but there were many other people paul joseph watson got banned from instagram and what did he have he had pictures of him like smoking a cigarette by the sunset just like ridiculous things like what are you banning him for it is political moving into 2024 i would not be surprised if we see a ton of moves like this that being said with elon musk owning x it's going the other direction we're starting to win this one especially with other institutions like rumble out there now
Starting point is 00:22:56 rumble also has a very interesting lawsuit against some of these you call them democratic organizations i call them more government inteled organizations that are also financed with billionaires, individuals' names like George Soros, who, of course, do play a major role in our political discourse. So when you see the kind of coordinated attacks that happened a couple years ago, it wasn't social media. It was government officials. We found that out through the Twitter files. We found that out through all the disclosures. We found out that U.S. government officials, FBI officials, Intel officials were saying, hey, we don't like what these people are saying.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Shut down these individual voices. They're talking about this kind of news reporting that we don't like. Shut them down immediately. And they did. Your tax dollars essentially financed a lot of this. And I really hope that these new lawsuits really shed a light. And we have a lot of discovery, specifically when it comes to the larger involvement of outside forces, not ask questions or file lawsuits was uh they kind of associated source insulting soros criticizing soros with you being anti-semitic or you know
Starting point is 00:24:11 calling you names throwing labels at you and that was actually quite effective for a few years there i would say between uh trump running in 2015 to about 2019 that was pretty effective to throw certain labels at you then i think uh amer Americans started to wake up by and large, people who weren't even political by nature, they started to realize, okay, these labels don't actually mean anything because my next door neighbor is being called a racist for having a Gadsden flag or something like that.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They started to realize these labels didn't mean anything. Then they started actually investigating it, who Soros really is. I think more Americans are aware of these strategies that the left has used for so long or just the, you know, the Uniparty at large to silence us. This idea that you can't question anything. Americans are aware more than ever before that we've been lied to about not just the government, but about who these people are that we're surrounded by in our communities.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And, you know, we look around like, you know, the people who were silenced very early on and we're like Milo Yiannopoulos, for example, or Gavin McInnes. And it's like these people are not who they told us they were. You know, I know the exact moment when the when the tides turned. It was when Taylor Swift called out George Soros several years ago. I'm half kidding, by the way. But Taylor Swift calls out the Soros family because they undercut her. And I do think that that does open the door a little bit for people to criticize George Soros. A lot of conservatives are attacking Taylor.
Starting point is 00:25:32 But I'm like, dude, she put out this big post talking about how her music was stolen from her. It's not political at all. But now, well, now there are going to be a lot of people who are critical of George Soros in a completely apolitical context. You can't call them all anti-Semitic anymore. Right. And I think that's what it took to bring it into the mainstream because Taylor Swift is in the mainstream. I think that's a really, really good point.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I actually think it's like, it's true. Like, I mean, like, I think that in order to make something to be effective, you need to somehow bring it into the mainstream. It can't just be a like political junkie talking point. This is why I think it's a psyop, all these conservatives attacking Taylor Swift. Because all of a sudden these accounts on Twitter are like, Taylor's working for George Soros.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And I was like, well, she doesn't like the guy. She's posted against him. Take the opportunity, man. Take the win. You got, I think this would be a really great video for Freedom Tunes, where it's like a bunch of 17 year old girls screaming, George Soros ripped off Taylor Swift. And then he is calling them all anti-Semites.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's a shame that that guy's not here. But anyway, I wanted to bring up another point here, what we were just talking about, because it was Alex, it was Milo, it was Gavin, it was Robinson. A lot of big prominent individuals were censored. But more importantly, a lot of kind of smaller up and coming content creators were also censored and then obliterated and had their entire careers destroyed. They weren't the big big guys they weren't the big players that could sustain these attacks and i i think truly the biggest damage that happened was on all the people that are coming up that we're going to have an impact now that we're going to be prominent that we're going to be big but had no chance because the algorithm screwed them over destroyed them demonetized them
Starting point is 00:27:04 and hurt our kind of discourse more than we could even imagine. Parler would be Twitter right now. Exactly. That's crazy. It's like the war gaming. I mean, if we're really concerned with a war with Russia, we have to look at this as common, as realistic as possible, that these centralized services are vulnerabilities. If Elon holds Twitter on a central service verizon can shut them down
Starting point is 00:27:25 the government can go in there and get his whoever wherever they're hosted can shut them down they need to decentralize this service as quick as possible they need like something like briar or noster or something where we can run it on our phones decentralized because it's it's just inevitable man because especially with these infrastructure attacks especially what happened to to rumble especially what happened to Rumble, especially what- Rumble today. And what will be happening probably to Twitter,
Starting point is 00:27:49 as of course, Twitter also had a lot of very important infrastructure problems. And I think the next step, if they can't silence the person, if they can't silence the voice, they're going to silence the megaphone that people speak through. And these are the attacks
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Starting point is 00:29:05 says, they're going to be the ones that destroyed this company. I think we, we, we did briefly mentioned this a couple of weeks ago. Elon Musk could theoretically just say, I am federating X, meaning it will be a decentralized open source infrastructure that connects to all the other, other infrastructure. And it will actually will never go anywhere then because now you're integrated in this decentralized open source network he can easily offset tons of the cost through open sourcing and distributed uh uh uh decentralizing servers and services through the what's called the fediverse and then there would be a major business loss the big challenge with this is that he took out loans to buy X. But if X is on the verge of collapse, this may play out
Starting point is 00:29:48 poorly for him. But I do think the richest man whose net worth is currently, as of today, estimated $244 billion. I kind of think he can stand to lose $44 billion. And it's not just that. Hold on. There's investors involved. They would lose a lot of money. But let's look.
Starting point is 00:30:04 What's the worst case scenario? Elon says, all the advertisers pulled off in a coordinated fashion for seemingly political reasons. You can't hold me responsible for that. X is now done. What do we do? Open source decentralizes our best path to maintain the platform and retain memberships and advertising. The Fediverse is great, although if they stay centralized on like big data centers or in AWS or cloud,
Starting point is 00:30:28 wherever they're hosting, that can still get shut out of the Fediverse. So you're looking at- Versus a mesh network. Yeah, mesh networks, which are like really up and coming and they're challenging still
Starting point is 00:30:36 to transmit video because they're, you know, cell phone to cell phone. But you have 50 cell phones, 48 of them go down. The other two are still connected with Twitter. And then that's how it'll work.
Starting point is 00:30:46 But if the establishment is really desperate, right? And they're about to lose a lot of power. And they're about to be held accountable for all the horrible things they did to us. How far do you think they're going to go to stop that from happening? I think we have to examine that in a very critical way because I think they're willing to go very far. I think they're willing to do a lot of crazy things that we can't even imagine right now to just how far they will go to say, hey, there's going to be no accountability here. There's going to be no truth here, because as soon as the people find out the truth, it's game over for them. They're so cornered. They're so in a fragile situation that truly this is a very dangerous time for all of us.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, I think wherever we're thinking, they're thinking a step ahead. I think that they're aware that that would be our plan B or plan C. I think they're fully aware of the direction this is headed in. They wouldn't do the things that they're doing or they wouldn't have done the things that they have done to us for years if they weren't able to think one step ahead. I mean, it's the same argument you can make for donald trump everybody's like well you know we're so back he's gonna win whatever but i mean it's we're talking about the deep state here there's just no there's nothing that's too far for them i disagree completely i like the titanic can crash into an iceberg you know you you could you could there's a lot of conspiracies about that sure if i'm using as
Starting point is 00:32:03 an analogy i'm not making it literal. You can build the biggest ship. You can design it to rip through ice. And then you come across bedrock and be like, we did not expect that to happen. We calculated and then boom, we tore the hole and now we're sinking. It's possible. Sure. They can see far ahead and they may be thinking abandoned ship.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah. There's a lot of bankers there against the U S federal reserve, but that's a different story. But yeah, I do believe that you against the U.S. Federal Reserve, but that's a different story. I do believe that you could be correct in your sentiments, but just understanding how they work and what they did to the people, especially within the last three years.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Especially within the last 22 years, especially what happened in New York City. When you calculate all of their moves and decisions, nothing is out of the realm of possibility here to how far they will go to stop people from finding out what they're really up to. Well, let me pull up this tweet here from Chris Pavlovsky, the CEO of Rumble. He tweets, I can confirm this attack has been unprecedented and has been happening since this weekend. Rumble, for those that are just for just tuning in, has been under a cyber attack. And this may be related to Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But look, let's be real. Rumble is really challenging the machine. Alex Jones was restored on X and it was announced that he would be appearing on Stephen Crowder's show this morning. All of a sudden, Rumble is slammed. Viva Fry tweeted, I was planning to to go live but rumble and locals are down apparently is a it is a massive unprecedented attack one that is likely politically motivated if i have any updates i'll let everyone know godspeed rumble chris pavlovsky followed up by saying i also suspect it is political coming from activists and or organizations who want to censor
Starting point is 00:33:39 our creators and related to j6 videos being posted on rumble 2024 is two weeks away when it is gonna be wild when he was in i was like you got to decentralize this service and i i know he knew i was right and we also both know the the momentous amount of effort that would require and especially the the challenge to to stream video from like a mesh. But I know Chris is thinking about it. He's a server master. But as long as that Rumble thing is on local servers or centralized on big data, man, you are, it is target, target, target. And it's like when you're a sitting duck, man,
Starting point is 00:34:14 you're in a rough position as a tech company. Now, who's really behind these attacks? That's a question that I'm kind of asking myself. I have my clear speculations. I have a clear answer to who would be invested in stopping these conversations from happening. But Rumble is on the up and up. It's becoming a very serious contender
Starting point is 00:34:32 to one of the biggest online media companies in the world, a monopoly on the industry that, of course, abuses their power routinely and hosts particular shows and platforms like um that are major and when they see a competitor coming out and and and and doing their job better and allowing the free market to actually speak and represent itself holy cow that is a danger to their business that is a danger to their industry and um i wouldn't be surprised if it's the competition saying we got to shut it down before they take our cake it could be uh the russians wanting you to think that by making you think that the enemy of your enemy is doing something to your like it could be it could be
Starting point is 00:35:14 three deep you know it could be someone trying to get you to think that it's google doing it to rumble or getting you to think that it's the american government doing it to rumble to sow dissent but i think the most obvious answer is it's someone that didn't like the politics yeah whoever it is well i think i think you bring up a good point i think oftentimes we have an enemy like the ccp for example and a lot of times we see these cyber attacks and it gets blamed on the ccp and it's peculiar because even the people that do business with the ccp will say that you know people like jo like Joe Biden and the administration and say, oh, it's the CCP, it's the CCP. Well, I wonder how many times they blame it on these other on our enemies when really it's them. Like you saw with the whole balloon situation. Oh, well,
Starting point is 00:35:54 it's the CCP. But for some reason, we can't shoot it down. Well, well, we had our reservations about that. We weren't exactly certain that that was the case, given what the government has done in the past. But I think that they do take advantage of our enemies and they blame it on that i think in the case of rumble obviously rumble wouldn't be the ones to blame it on a fake enemy but i can see like some sort of uh story coming out blaming it on the ccp or something like that or maybe even russia but uh i mean i i just i think as people who are in tune with politics we have to be careful that we don't allow them to use our enemies as a way to as a way to get away from their own responsibility
Starting point is 00:36:32 of the fact that they did it because the government's obviously never going to tell us oh we did it or or youtube's never going to be like we did it you know i don't think we're ever going to find out who who's really responsible here and who actually did do it it could be a lot of different people too working in conjunction absolutely i think about a lot about the ccp like that because i although i am concerned with that authoritarian economic you know autocracy whatever oligarchy i guess communist auger it i don't want to like say that's just the purest evil on earth and every because then it's just going to send the u.s to war with them and i don't want to do that i want to avoid that well it's the same thing with russia i mean they make putin out to look a certain way and it's just going to send the U.S. to war with them. And I don't want to do that. I want to avoid that. Well, the same thing with Russia.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I mean, they make Putin out to look a certain way. And it's like they make him look like he's some evil dictator. But it's like no one actually breaks down his reasoning for what he's doing. And it's a disservice to ourselves because then we don't actually understand who we're dealing with. Whoever side you're on, it's a disservice to not understand who your supposed enemy is. But they don't want you to think about that because if you did think about and you did start researching it you might actually realize that they've lied to you about who he is and who our enemies are in general so it's they
Starting point is 00:37:34 they make it out to be like oh don't question it they're just your enemy it's just your enemy don't question it but there are so many people who just don't want to be involved in politics and want to plug their ears and say la la la la they want, la, la. They want to live in denial. And, uh, you know, man, I think they're the last ones off the Titanic. If they even make it off the, the people who are, imagine this, you're on the Titanic and hit an iceberg and you were standing near the front of the ship and saw it happen. Well, you knew what to do. You knew, okay, bad thing just happened for all the people who are like down in the ballroom, just having a good old time saying,
Starting point is 00:38:06 we don't care and we're not paying attention. Those people didn't make it. There's going to be a lot of people who don't make it. But at the same time, I say that, but I think more than ever, people are getting the opportunity to finally speak to each other and find out what's really going on. I think there is an opportunity to awaken a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:38:24 There are some people that still love to have their heads in the sand and their tickets up bare laid for whoever wants to go out there and take it. And those individuals, I think more and more now, especially with Bidenomics, especially with the Build Back Better policies, are seeing the real cost of being ignorant to politics. Of course, if you ignore politics, politics is not going to ignore you. And a lot of people have been bamboozled, have been screwed over. And now they're saying, hey, hold on, maybe I should be paying attention to what's going on here because this actually does have a real effect on my life.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So in one sense, yes, I do see people kind of being blind to certain situations, but I do see those blinds being lifted now more than ever. I assume it's people with young children or people that want to have young children. They have a reason to think outside the box about the future. But like older people that are just collecting their social security, they're just like, oh, shut up. And I want to just watch TV.
Starting point is 00:39:18 But there's a new data that was just released by a CNN poll. Donald Trump, I think it's in Michigan, has a lead of 40 points among people who did not vote in 2020. Trump's biggest gains are among non-voters. Like people who didn't vote are waking up and they're deciding I'm voting for Trump. And that's what's giving Trump the bump. Good news. And every time the corporate media attacks him viciously, unfairly, he just becomes more popular. Every time the state brings more charges to him, everyone's like, hey, why are you doing this to this man?
Starting point is 00:39:49 As of course, he's facing 750 years in jail, which is absolutely crazy. The fact that a former president of the United States could be going to jail for multiple life sentences. That's just a new level of craziness. And in my opinion, desperation by the establishment has gone way too far. But I've talked to a lot of people, man. Trump's Trump's going to be convicted. Yeah. Now he now the interesting thing is I could be totally wrong.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Why? Trump has petitioned the Supreme Court, and I believe the Supreme Court has just said they will take up the case. Trump said you cannot criminally charge a person for what they did as president. And I believe he is correct. The president must be impeached first, impeached, then criminally charged. The reason for this is war, conflict, crisis. The people need to say that this duly elected representative is not fit because of high
Starting point is 00:40:39 crimes and misdemeanors. Afterwards, we can say what they do is criminal. The reason being, if you could just criminally charge a president whenever you wanted, then every state would file criminal charges immediately against the president because they didn't want him to be president. It would be like, imagine the Civil War. After the Civil War, they're having elections. Yeah, a former Confederate state would just be like,
Starting point is 00:41:00 we're criminally charging the president with these things. The country would never move forward. Well, it's going to be the reaction of the people when he does get indicted, when he does get arrested. He was indicted. He was arrested. When he does get convicted and put in jail.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But there's probably going to be even more indictments. There's probably going to be even more charges with the way that things are going. But when he's in jail, how will the American people respond? That's the question. I think they're listening to people like us and they're wondering waiting for us to tell them what to do that's like the scary part kind of in a way is like the not the responsibility but also like how things are hanging by a thread right now people need guidance i know what they need to do
Starting point is 00:41:38 they need to buy cast brew coffee the greatest cup of coffee i'm getting also work out yeah because tucker was talking about that the other day sort of he was saying like you know i've because of all of these indictments and everything like i've become a bigger trump supporter is what he's saying i think a lot of americans feel that way and i think that would be a breaking point for a lot of people and i don't you know it's hard to say what they would do per se but i think that that would certainly be crossing the line for a lot of people who in the past either voted for him because they liked his economic policies or thought he was a better option but i think that as he gets indicted more and more and that's not even my opinion this is these are just statistics too uh more people are supporting him openly and
Starting point is 00:42:18 uh more fervently than ever before and i think that means something for if that does happen what if they do throw him in jail uh i mean that'll ultimately probably will mean he would die the guy's really old and and we all know that they would possibly do something to him in prison right so how old is he 78 yeah in his late 70s but it doesn't even matter like they would you know they'd probably kill him like they would find some way to kill him and that's ultimately like i think they probably blame it on age but you know i mean who really knows it could be that or well alex jones alex jones warned about this yeah the the risk to trump's life because of of what's happening however i do think it's also important to consider if we win enough culturally
Starting point is 00:43:01 and shift the narrative enough in this country, it would make the option of going after Trump inviolable, right? Going after Trump with violence only matters if they have the power to maintain control of a system. If it becomes apparent that, you know, Bud Light's failure, Disney's failure, this is the the expansion of x if this becomes so apparent that we are going to win what happens is the powers that be just say oh i was always for free speech and they'll jump ship and quickly rush over because they want to preserve their own lives so i think all we have to do stay the course build culture, support Daily Wire and their movie efforts, support shows like Timcast, Steven Crowder, support Jimmy Dore, just anti-establishment individuals.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Buy the best song ever. Go to thebestsongever.com. Buy our song. Pre-order it. It'll be out Friday. The reason is we want to win the culture war. Support a mug club. Buy coffee brand coffee from Jeremyeremy at the quartering just
Starting point is 00:44:05 support all of the parallel economy go to public square buy all your products from public square just hammer down all these cultural victories and make make sure they know the money's not there the confidence is not there and if you take extreme action you will lose there's also we are changing that shop that's also pretty good. But no, no. And t-shirts, thebestpoliticalshirts.com. But what I wanted to say to kind of add to your point, they are playing a very dangerous game. It is extremely risky. And some people have even theorized
Starting point is 00:44:36 that they're trying to push the American people over the edge, that they're trying to kind of spur a reaction to them that will create a problem that they're going to have a solution for. So that's also something to kind of think about here looking at everything else. But as you mentioned, Tim, a lot of people are really banking and hoping that the election is going to solve a lot of problems for the individual. It's not. What will solve the problems are people taking personal responsibility for themselves, are people who are going to decide to vote with their clicks,
Starting point is 00:45:05 their likes, their views, their dollars, saying, Hey, I'm going to support the local farm over there. I'm not going to support Walmart. I'm not going to support big factory farming. I'm going to go get some, uh, you know, things like raw milk. If they're good for you, I'm going to actually do some homework and research into the ways that we are being poisoned into the larger biological war that is being waged on men and women in this country. I'm going to make sure I am the strongest, best version of myself, and I don't need the system. I'm not going to feed the system. I'm going to live outside of it in my own free, honest, real way. That right there is a beautiful act of resistance. I got a fact check, Patriot, with a good fact check saying, after being convicted on impeachment
Starting point is 00:45:43 charges, Tim, President Trump was impeached. He was not convicted. So I'll clarify what I'm saying. The argument from Trump is that you must be impeached and convicted. Then you can be criminally indicted and criminally convicted. Trump was impeached, which is effectively an indictment. The Senate voted no, and then he was not convicted. So until that happens and he is successfully convicted following impeachment, none of this matters. But let's jump to this story
Starting point is 00:46:08 from scnr.com scanner. Missouri AG launches investigation into media matters. AG Andrew Bailey, quote, I'm fighting to ensure progressive tyrants masquerading as news outlets cannot manipulate the marketplace
Starting point is 00:46:22 in order to wipe out free speech. This is huge. Attorney General Andrew Bailey says we have reason to believe Media Matters used fraud to solicit donations from Missourians in order to bully advertisers into pulling out of X, the last platform dedicated to free speech in America. We have launched an investigation and it is quite simple. According to data from X, as well as numerous reports, Media Matters appeared to have created fake accounts or created created dummy accounts using new accounts following specifically advertisers and extremists. That way, the content would appear next to each other and they could then go to the advertiser and say, see,
Starting point is 00:47:01 look, your content appears next to extremists, which is a disingenuous version of events. That being the case, for Media Matters to claim this thing happened when, according to X, their staff, and Elon Musk, it happened like two times, the argument is Media Matters is defrauding donors by tricking them into thinking they're actually solving a problem when, in fact that problem doesn't even exist therefore the argument now is fraud this is huge but this is the lawfare and it's not just missouri i know that i believe uh texas is is filing several suits too right the state of the attorney general or attorney general there is doing that yes
Starting point is 00:47:40 let me let me let me read the letter here so we can get the uh the specifics here andrew bailey of missouri says this letter serves as a formal document hold notice under federal doing that. Yes. Let me read the letter here so we can get the specifics here. Andrew Bailey of Missouri says, this letter serves as a formal document, hold notice under federal and Missouri law. The Missouri Attorney General's Office has opened an investigation into Media Matters for America regarding your firm's potentially unlawful business practices. Full stop. Media Matters is a, I believe they're a 501c4 nonprofit. I could be wrong. But they, all they do all day is watch what they view as conservative media and then post things. Oftentimes, they're out of context or manipulative.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But here's more. He says, as you are no doubt aware, a federal lawsuit has been filed against Media Matters, raising serious allegations that your firm falsely and deceptively manipulated the algorithm on X, formerly known as Twitter, through coordinated inauthentic behavior, and that you did so in an attempt to defame the organization and cause advertisers to pull their support from the platform, thus harming free speech. The lawsuit alleges that you lied to the public, falsely suggesting that fringe extremist content regularly appears next to content from corporate advertisers, when in fact the opposite is true.
Starting point is 00:48:40 At the same time, you appear to have used this coordinated inauthentic activity to solicit charitable donations from consumers across the country. I have reason to believe that your firm's alleged actions may have violated Missouri consumer protection laws, including laws that prohibit nonprofit entities from soliciting funds under false pretenses. I am especially concerned that Media Matters actions, if proven true, have hampered free speech by targeting an expressly pro-free speech social media platform in an attempt to cause it financial harm while defrauding Missourians in the process. You are thus hereby instructed to preserve all records that may relate to your alleged effort to engage in coordinated inauthentic behavior on social media platforms in order to generate false statements that were used to solicit charitable contributions under false pretenses. You are instructed in particular to preserve all records that may relate to your web page, which expressly solicit funds at the following URL.
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Starting point is 00:50:52 fired away in an attempt to advantage themselves in this election. It's not just about votes. It's not just about vote policy. It's about speech capabilities. It's about Media Matters trying to take down X and now Missouri fighting to defend X because X is in favor of free speech. 2024 is going to be absolutely wild. It already is wild. I know. It's going to get crazier. It's going to get way crazier. It's not just Media Matters.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It's so many other organizations like that that exist. And I mean, they could be you could make an argument that they're doing the exact same thing. So this is really I think this is huge. This is really big to set the sort of precedent for, you know, we will come after you if you try to influence, you know, defra Watch. What's the other one? The big one, Patriot Takes and other ones like that where they take things out of context and they could be doing the same thing. I don't know. I mean, it's worth. If they solicit donations. Yeah. So Rumble is suing Check My Ads, I believe the two founders.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And what this group does is they contact advertisers for various conservative outlets and then try to get the advertisers to pull out. I can say they have made numerous deceptive statements about us and used that to solicit donations. Notably, they claimed that I pushed the quote unquote big lie, which is the big lie refers to Donald Trump saying he won in 2020. Anybody who's ever watched this show knows that I have never claimed Trump won 2020. And I actually argued with Bannon twice that Trump lost because people did not like him
Starting point is 00:52:28 and they didn't vote for Biden. They voted against Trump. And Steve Bannon actually went, huh, I said Trump got anti-elected. There's no enthusiasm for Biden. They were voting against Trump. And he goes, that's pretty good, anti-elected, yeah. So I'm like, the fact that they would raise money
Starting point is 00:52:41 off of making that claim, it shows these organizations are deceiving people in order to raise money. For the record, there are 501 C3 media matters is. Media matters is a C3? No, no, no. Yes, I know they're a non-profit. According to Wikipedia, there are 501 C3. They're exempt from federal income tax.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So how does that change this at all? Does it make it more or less? 501 C3s can't engage in partisan political activity. Yeah, and it's pretty clear that they are very partisan. Super PACs, typically I believe they're 501c4s. That's the tax designation. 501, then the C's and the parentheses and a 4.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And this, 501c4s don't have to disclose where their money goes, but it's not tax deductible. And 501c3s, completely tax deductible, but you can look up all their information, their salaries. I recommend everybody do this.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Search for tax form 990 and insert nonprofit, and you can learn a lot about all these organizations. So good sleuthing, everyone out there. Have fun. Am I supposed to say something now? You made the note. I know he's been looking for 90 media matters.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I was like, I'm one of those guys. I want to know. I want to know who owns it, who runs it, who makes the money. You can see the salaries. That's good. And there's restrictions on this stuff. So should be interesting. But I'm curious to see where all these lawsuits
Starting point is 00:54:07 end up but uh regardless you know it's not even 2024 yet okay primaries haven't happened we're a month away from the iowa caucuses and already people are starting to get crazy feels crazy did you guys hear klaus schwab and i think this video is real he said that he was railing against anti-system and saying that there was liber was the biggest threat to the system is libertarians. The libertarianism. It's like on Twitter. It was freaking me out. It's like, this is the mask off moment.
Starting point is 00:54:35 If this is a real video and he's speaking out against libertarianism. So people who believe in freedom are the biggest threat. He had a mask on. To freedom. To freedom. That's literally what they say. I love when they tell us to our faces
Starting point is 00:54:47 what they're trying to do. Like it just, it just, it drives home the point that like they're not even, they know they don't have to be silent about it or they think they have
Starting point is 00:54:54 more power than they do. Well, it's because the average person doesn't care. That's true. I can't tell you how many people I've met who go, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:55:00 I don't want to, I don't pay attention to that stuff. There's a viral video where this woman is like, I just went to Chipotle and my burrito bowl was 1982. I know I got guac, but that should make it 1982. Like WTF is going on. And it's like, well, as you sit there not paying attention, your burrito bowls are becoming very expensive.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Now, for those of us that are paying attention, we're like, perhaps it was the several hundred billion dollars spent in foreign war garbage over the past couple years and the massive spending that's uh resulted in hyperinflation i shouldn't say hyperinflation so being a little hyperbolic but you get my point it's either or you know giving everyone two thousand dollar checks and big corporate bailouts that's that's also another big issue another big problem that of course i think a lot of people need to deal with as well but we are not in a in good situation. There is a lot of lawfare. Now, some people say there's too much lawfare. I would kind of agree with them. But right now, it is very heavily one-sided. It is essentially district attorneys financed by George Soros. It is essentially a lot of the leftist organizations and groups that are kind of organizing themselves
Starting point is 00:56:00 and suing and attacking everyone. Alex Jones was sued for a billion dollars. Elon Musk is being sued by those same individuals right now. So we are sadly living in a day and age where lawyers are becoming more important, but also more powerful and more rich than they ever were before, since this is how we are seeing this kind of asymmetrical warfare being waged politically in a very dangerous gambit that
Starting point is 00:56:25 is not good for america it's not good for its people and sadly now everything you do and say has to be carefully monitored you have to watch yourself you make one mistake you're going to get sued into into oblivion and this is why the appeals case for what's happening to alex jones is so important as of course they they they found him guilty and he owes a billion plus dollars for speech well he was found liable but this is the important distinction here is that there was no trial people don't know this yep people are being told alex jones lost a lawsuit and is forced to pay over defamation no he didn't it was it was a ruling in default the judge said no trial for alex jones you owe them you owe them now we're going to have a
Starting point is 00:57:10 hearing determine how much you owe them and he couldn't defend themselves and the major accusation was that he didn't uh provide discovery uh but according to alex jones he was providing discovery he was providing a lot of the documentations that they were asking he said that no matter what he gave them they kept saying it wasn't it and that's like how how do you like it's like torture almost you know the torturer says tell me the location of the genesis device and the guy goes i don't know so they hit him again tell me or else i seriously don't know he's lying and they keep hitting you it's like if you don't know what are you supposed to say just lie so they're like we want these documents and alex jones like well there you go okay we want more he's like that's it nope there's more you're lying and he's like that's all i have and they're like
Starting point is 00:57:50 nope default you lose well that's the danger of this litigious society and it's kind of what we've we saw with roger stone too they did the same thing to him they accused him of lying oh you didn't turn over all the emails or you did this and therefore you tried to lie about this and he was like no that's not what happened uh but they can keep pushing you and they can keep pushing you and they can keep it in the court system and they can keep making it not only uh you know a matter of like the court but also the court of public opinion too like they can keep you under their thumb that way and they'll just keep telling you you're lying you're lying you're lying and then they make you into a monster publicly and in the court as to who you really are. And that's kind of what happened with Alex Jones. It happens with a lot
Starting point is 00:58:28 of people. But I think you're totally right. This litigious society we live in is so dangerous because it's like, at what point do we stop? Because if they're at the enemy is going to be doing that right, if they're going to be throwing lawsuits at everybody left and right, then our only way to defend ourselves is to throw lawsuits at them in response, which is what you're seeing, for example, in Missouri. I bet artificial intelligence will take that task on. They'll start using artificial intelligence to counter sue and sue and counter sue. And it'll just you see it probably magnitudes more. Oh, yeah. There's going to be a writing like court documents. It's going to be so weird. Let's let's jump to the story because this story because this one's a good laugh. Business Insider writes,
Starting point is 00:59:06 Elon Musk's luck has finally run out. Is this it? It's the end for Elon? Oh, no. It was a good run. Lynette Lopez writing that Elon was on a heater. From 2019 to 2022,
Starting point is 00:59:19 it seemed if every single gamble he took was paying off, then he did what every risk-addicted blackjack player inevitably does he pushed his luck too far overconfidence confirmation bias and delusions of control led to a string of bad decisions and boom elon's empire is in trouble again oh no oh what's this the richest man in the world elon musk 244.4 billion dollars thanks tesla and spacex hold on i thought his lust his lust i thought his uh his elon musk's luck ran out $44.4 billion. Thanks, Tesla and SpaceX. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I thought his Musk's luck ran out. So what's the argument? This is the narrative machine lying. They don't want you to hear the truth. Elon Musk engaged in political behavior, defending free speech, buying a big tech platform and is winning. He's got more FU money than anyone on the planet. Tesla is is slaying it. Cybertruck is coming out.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Everyone's super excited. SpaceX has the majority of all space launches. And they're like, yeah, well, Elon Musk's failing because we don't like Twitter anymore. Yo, Mark Zuckerberg barely even posts on threads anymore. Nobody uses it. But this is the narrative. You know what I think is happening is they're trying to scare other people out of doing what Elon Musk has done, particularly wealthier people, but
Starting point is 01:00:34 I think Americans in general, it's sort of they're using him as an example of, you know, this is what happens when you speak out, when you do something to go against, when you're a dissenter, when you go against what the state says is acceptable they want you to think that he's a massive failure they want you to think that if you were to even go you know even try to do what he's done or go even remotely close to that uh that the same thing's going to happen to you that everybody who does
Starting point is 01:00:58 something that gets involved in politics and takes an opposing position to the state uh will fail and you will fail too. I think that's what this is part of because they try it every time somebody ventures out and tries to do something and they're successful at it when it comes to creating either, you know, a parallel economy, being a part of that or doing what Elon Musk is doing, which is actually quite unprecedented, honestly. So it's hard to compare it to anything else. But I think more than anything, they just want you to believe that you will fail if you speak out, if you
Starting point is 01:01:25 do something against the state. That's why these articles are coming out. Yep. They'll take your money. They'll defame you. They'll destroy you. They'll take everything that they love from you, but will they be able to stop you? Absolutely not. Look what happened to Owen Schroyer. Look what happened to Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Look what is happening to all these individuals that they did everything to stop and then they have risen once again, back up again. And this is a big sign. This is a huge case right now that they desperately want to be true. They need it to be true, because if it's not, it's showing people that free speech is popular. It's more popular than what the corporate advertisers want it to be. It's more popular than the Fed, federal government and the Feds want it to be. And I think free speech is the big winner here. And even though they're saying all this stuff, it doesn't mean it's true.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Look at this image they made of Elon Musk. His forehead getting red and his money disappearing. The dudes were $244 billion. He could lose all of Twitter and it's $44 billion value. musk his forehead getting red and his money disappearing the dudes were 244 billion dollars he could lose all of twitter and it's 44 billion dollar value not to mention he didn't pay for the whole thing because he got loans and he'd still be worth if let's let's say he ate the whole cost of twitter and collapsed he's worth 200 billion dollars that's i just i i i don't i don't get it they're just trying to push a narrative like you you were saying, Anna, they want you to think that you cannot succeed doing this
Starting point is 01:02:47 stuff. Who is they? This is, I'm not understanding. A deep state. You were a Democrat. Okay. He's got SpaceX. You're asking who is they though?
Starting point is 01:02:54 It is Democrat and neocon party establishment shills who are mad that they can no longer control the narrative. It is the CIA and the FBI who had a direct line to Twitter and lost it and were using it to manipulate narratives. Tesla and especially SpaceX is like tight with the Department of Defense. They need that technology and he's helping them and working with them. Isn't he being sued by Merrick Garland or whatever? Whatever happened with that? He has multiple lawsuits, including some for going after him for not hiring enough refugees in SpaceX for some strange reason.
Starting point is 01:03:27 The DOJ sued him in August for not hiring refugees, despite the fact he's not legally allowed to. I think they thought they could control him. I really do think they thought that, OK, well, he's still somewhat one of us. He's not really that into politics. And then they failed and he's, you know, fighting back. And now they're starting to realize oh elon's not on our side i think that they're really they've lost their guy they lost because i think
Starting point is 01:03:49 they the the government likes to control the wealthiest people in the country and when they lose them when they start to lose them that's a threat to them because they have more power and that's what's going on here and we kind of saw it with and this isn't really as big of a deal because they're not quite as wealthy as elon uh but what happened with the company that made uh sound of freedom they came after them the the whole i think it was rolling stone that a few other articles came after that too but they attacked them calling them q anon and conspiracy theorists and it's like they this is it's the same thing as this they want to make you believe you can't be successful if you provide a an
Starting point is 01:04:25 perspective outside of what the accepted narrative but um but yeah i think he's a particular threat because he's so wealthy and they thought that they could control him i think they did think they could regain control of him so this is what happens with uh we we put out a bunch of songs and uh a lot of things has happened have happened the thing is Pete Parada, formerly of The Offspring. We make contact with them. We work together. We make a song. And when our publicist reached out
Starting point is 01:04:53 to various entertainment publications to say former drummer from The Offspring working with Tim Pool, the responses we got back were go F yourself and things like that. Unbecoming of entertainment reporters. By all means, they could have been like, we don't like this. You know, you know, we're not fans of you politically, but there's news there in what we're doing. Instead, the response was not only are we like, not only are
Starting point is 01:05:16 we going to ignore this to make sure no one knows you're doing it because we don't want to give you any press because they view press as a weapon. They actually emailed us back. We got emails back from a variety of different entertainment outlets saying, F yourselves. And we were like, wow. When we reached out to, I want to keep it relatively vague for legal reasons, litigious reasons. When we reached out to various music industry groups, like here's the standard process by which we publish music. They outright just whoopsie screwed the songs up, screwed up tracking, rejected it. And we were just like, wow, man. And so the original idea we had was to make a song mocking the whole industry. And then when I saw what Jeremy Boring and Michael Knowles did
Starting point is 01:05:57 with Together Again, the story that Jeremy told was they offered a substantial, like 100 times the market rate to play a song and they were rejected and so jeremy was like we're gonna make our own parody version of this song from the 60s as like it's like basically our version of an fu and spend six figures doing it and so that's why we have the song coming out this friday i i don't want to ham it up too much, but I am, you know, we are promoting it. The issue is we need to win the culture war. The institutions are controlled. The media is controlled. The movie industry is controlled.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And so it's not just about making music. It's not just about making movies. It's not just about Elon buying X. It's also important to understand these institutions will spit in your face publicly, will lie about you outside of the media. So this is why we're doing the best song ever.com. This is why we're making culture. And, uh, it's, it's all aligned with the, I don't know how to explain it. I guess more than just what people realize is captured, right? You'd think, oh, the big labels will only sign bands no you don't
Starting point is 01:07:05 understand the financial institutions banning people uh like web services cutting people off when uh gab had their hostings or the gab had their hosting seized right it's been it's been a long time like there there are thin threads of infrastructure in all of these different networks where people will give you the middle finger and try and shut you down. I think that's why music is so powerful and that writing really good music over and over and over and just putting out consistently really good songs
Starting point is 01:07:35 is like not really unstoppable, but pretty close to unstoppable with the radio and shortwave radio. Like it doesn't require a lot of bandwidth to get a song across to somebody. You don't really need centralized networks and itwave radio. Like it doesn't require a lot of bandwidth to get a song across to somebody. Um, you don't really need centralized networks and it changes people. And then the people go and they seek out who did the song and they want to listen to them. And if you're under five firewalls behind some mesh network on some pirate radio out at sea, they're going to find you and listen to you. And, um, I think that's the way to do it. And if the messages
Starting point is 01:08:01 are in the song and people don't even realize that's another way to do it. And if the messages are in the song and people don't even realize, that's another way to manipulate the masses into doing good. We are building probably the largest private East Coast skate facility for a show. And we're spending several million dollars. We're bringing out pro skateboarders and big industry individuals and we're filming videos. And we're doing it because you know like every i think everybody who plays video games everybody who likes sci-fi movies has seen wokeness infect their culture and with comic books and video games it became very apparent 10 years ago with like gamergate and for me it's like i play video games sometimes you know what
Starting point is 01:08:39 i mean i don't really pay attention all that much so i was like wow this is kind of crazy here's what's going on then it came into skateboarding and it's bad. And now I'm like substantially more irritated and aggressive because it's attacking something that I participate in and care about really, really badly. I mean, the woke stuff in skateboarding is just absolutely getting crazy. And we see it with Taylor Silverman. She's a female athlete and she loses to set two males on more than one occasion. And we're seeing more than just that in advertising and sponsorships. Companies no longer sponsor the best skateboarders. It's still there for sure. But now there are people who are getting major sponsorship deals for identity politics. And I'm like, we're going
Starting point is 01:09:21 to shut it down. And at least in terms of what I know, music, skateboarding, et cetera, we are going to invest heavily in pushing back on all these cultural areas. I hope everybody else does as well. So seeing Ripperverse, Eric July's comic books, is, man, the victories just keep stacking themselves up. So let's make more of those.
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's almost as if everything is being weaponized. Lawfare is being weaponized lawfare is being weaponized entertainment is being weaponized movies are being weaponized and uh the the hearts and minds of individuals especially during a war are key to win over and i think this is the kind of groundwork we are seeing for what could be potentially a bigger conflict out there they are trying to win the hearts and minds of individuals they're losing look what happened at disney the disney turnaround turnaround with snow white the disney uh uh individuals who of course are pissed off at the company which elon musk spoke out against specifically giving a big kind of fu to the company and many people aren't subscribing
Starting point is 01:10:20 from that particular platform also highlights a big kind of shift in people's energy and reaction to towards this as of course everything woke now is being met with distaste and and disdain and uh i think it's great a lot of the people said that vietnam was ended because of the musicians of the time like crosby stills nash and young there was a riot at kent state 1970 may 4th where all the students were out yelling and the war and the war and the they thrown rocks at the national guard the national guard opened fire and killed four kids four four adults at that point and then crosby stills nash and young wrote a song called ohio about that and it went hugely popular and it's also having the video cameras embedded in the war zone and seeing
Starting point is 01:10:57 the horror that ended it too but those two things in conjunction woke the music woke people up seeing it uh we're in an age of deep fakes now, which makes things a little strange. I want to pull up this. Did you want to finish? No, you finished it for me. Thanks. I want to pull up this clip from Tucker Carlson, episode 49, the Dana White interview. How many of you watched this?
Starting point is 01:11:16 Okay, it's basically just an ad for Bud Light, where Dana White says, I'll just grab a random point at this. Let's just see what happens. Support their people like Mexicans support their people. And you should be able to walk in with your country's flag. So I brought it back. Were you under pressure not to allow it? There's always, you know, when you deal with it. I consider myself a proud American.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I'm happy to be an American. I love this country. And you are way more aligned with Anheuser-Busch than you are with other beer companies. That I guarantee you. Have you taken any crap for it? Listen, people are going to say what they're going to say. I don't ever, I don't care what people, I know who I am. I know what I stand for.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I know what I believe in. And the people who are close to me know. And I'm on the right side of this. Basically, the first few minutes of this nine minute clip is Dana White saying everyone should go out and buy cases and cases of Bud Light because they're more aligned with you than you know. And I agree with him. I agree with him. I don't know how much he can say to drive the point home. But you have a lot of people saying no way Bud Light is dead to me, etc. And you know what? I don't think it matters all that much either way. But I'm on the buy Bud Light train right now.
Starting point is 01:12:26 We have Brian Krasenstein says, quote, buy Bud Light. Dana White agrees. Do you? I think it's silly to judge a company by one single advertisement partner they had, whether it's the UFC or Dylan Mulvaney, just buy products you like. Stop trying to cancel every single thing just because you may or may not 100% agree with every political ideology they may have. This is one of the
Starting point is 01:12:45 greatest victories. You know why? The right boycotted Bud Light. Bud Light sales tanked 30%. Bud Light desperately tries to win back the customers. They sponsor Harley Davidson. Doesn't work. Then they do a massive deal with UFC. And we all kind of groan like, why would UFC do this? And then Sean Strickland comes out and says, Bud Light has now sponsored everything I have to say. And he said some things I can't repeat on YouTube because of the censorship. But very, I would say to many people offensive, though many of these people are offended by everything. casino where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino.
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Starting point is 01:14:27 on the Tucker interview saying, what did Bud Light do besides money changing hands? And I'm like, that's exactly it. They're funding a bunch of based AF MMA fighters now and UFC and not Dylan Mulvaney. That's a win. Individuals like Conor McGregor, who are also becoming more and more spoken politically and might even run to be president of the united states i'm sorry president
Starting point is 01:14:48 ireland and so now when brian krasinski says come on everybody stop boycotting i say here here when the liberals don't boycott bud light but the conservatives do it creates an inverse pressure the pressure used to be that conservatives won't boycott, but liberals will. So give the liberals what they want because conservatives will just roll with the punches. But now the conservatives are boycotting and the liberals saying roll with the punches. It's going to create the inverse pressure system where now companies are going to push in the opposite direction and cancel the woke. Does it have like a $100 million contract? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 So that's the company that owns Anheuser-Busch is a Belgian. It's's not an american company dana just so you know it's belgian it's called ab inbev uh they bought it it's they're worth 15 and a half billion so this drop in the bucket of their money i don't see what you're seeing tim i i kind of understand the method specifically yeah but he's like anheuser bush anheuser bush is owned by ab inbev which is a belgian he said he said by bud light and he was just saying in that clip that anheuser bushBusch is owned by AB InBev, which is a Belgian company. He said by Bud Light. And he was just saying in that clip that Anheuser-Busch is the best American company. It's the best. It's a Belgian company. Way more aligned with you than most of these other beer companies.
Starting point is 01:15:50 I don't think he said it was American. Companies are that identical. I thought I heard him say that. Take it from somebody who's in the know, who does business with beer companies. You are way more aligned with Bud Light than you are with any other beer company. So I'm assuming, I mean, they didn't come into partnership with you by accident. No. Obviously. We had multiple bidders on the table.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Did they seek you out? We had multiple bidders on the table. They were one of them. And as I, you know, history has shown me with relationships that I've had with other beer companies, I, who lean more this way, I, who consider myself a patriot, I don't go crazy over the whole patriot thing, but I consider myself a proud American. I'm happy to be an American. I love this country.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And you are way more aligned with Anheuser-Busch than you are with other beer companies. That I guarantee you. Have you taken any crap for it? Listen, people are going to say what they're going to say. I don't ever, I don't care what people... I don't think that they're an American company. No, well, he's talking
Starting point is 01:16:45 about patriotism there. And then he talks about associate it with being American. Like you could definitely get that vibe, even if he doesn't say like, oh, it's an American company. He uses the word patriot
Starting point is 01:16:53 and proud American. And then he tells you on a Belgian company that has no free speech. What we want is a circumstance in which Bud Light loses money when they go woke and they make money
Starting point is 01:17:04 when they go anti-woke. So that every single other company will go, hey guys, if we sponsor woke people, we're going to lose money. But if we sponsor anti-woke people, we'll make money. If everybody still boycotts Bud Light, then it's a win either way. Because then companies are going to say, look, don't go woke because you'll lose money. But going conservative doesn't help you either. Just don't go woke. Wouldn't you consider what he just did woke? Like he just said, I'm a patriot.
Starting point is 01:17:27 I'm an American. So buy a Belgian beer. That's like, what? That's woke as hell. Do your research, Dana. It's a Belgian beer. It's not woke at all. How's that help American patriotism
Starting point is 01:17:35 to serve the Belgians? What? He's encouraging people to buy his Belgian beer. Well, I'm kind of split on this because- But what does that have to do with anything? He used patriotism to sell people on a foreign beer yeah it's disingenuous i agree with you and i think that it would have been yeah i mean i i think he clearly wanted you to associate this beer with america with patriotism for america and so that's disingenuous but i'm split on the on the
Starting point is 01:17:59 idea behind it uh what tim's saying because it's like on one hand it's yeah it's kind of a pavlov's dog situation where it's like we want to it's yeah it's kind of a pavlov's dog situation where it's like we want to train these companies to not be woke and therefore we should reward them when they are no longer being woke but at the same time maybe it takes actually putting these companies out of business to send a clear message maybe that was the end maybe that should be the end goal rather than just to make them suffer a little bit i don't know i'm not saying that like you know i, I see both sides. You can't put them out of business.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Well, Anheuser-Busch could subsidize Bud Light at infinitum. So the best opportunity is to, is to give them the incentive, use the carrot, not the stick. So then it goes, then the,
Starting point is 01:18:37 the question then becomes like, to what end would you boycott them? Like, what's the end goal? That would have to be the decided answer. And then I think, you know, you're... Economic damage, which was 30% in sales. And then they gave $100 million to UFC.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And at first we all said, oh, groan. We don't like Bud Light. They got woke, they go broke. A lot of people wanted to go to business. And then Sean Strickland came out and said a whole bunch of things on Twitter, laughing, saying Bud Light sponsored. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:19:04 This message brought to you by Bud Light. We all laughed and said we went from Dylan Mulvaney and in six months, Sean Strickland. We like what Sean Strickland says. So we want Bud Light to fund more of what Sean Strickland says. And then we want every other company to see. Hey, guys, if we go with the UFC dudes, we're going to make a lot of money. I'm not going to be happy until there's a can of Sean Strickland with a do-rag
Starting point is 01:19:27 presented to the American people. If they do that then maybe I could give them a chance personally I don't like alcohol I don't like booze it calcifies your pineal gland it gives you Bill Gates moves that's beyond the point here. Does it really calcify your pineal gland? A lot of beer is filled with fluoride and fluoride calcifies your pineal gland.
Starting point is 01:19:44 See okay it's important to clarify yeah yeah yeah but but i i think the you know i'm kind of like in the middle here as well because i understand your point i understand your point as well here how do we kind of move forward here i would love to have an alternative uh company an american company come out and say hey we're gonna take their we're gonna take their lunch. I would rather that personally myself. Ultra right conservative beer. Conservative dad's ultra right beer.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Personally, I'm like, don't do any of the booze. Seth Weathers is going to be here on the show I don't know, I think maybe this week? I think it's this week. It's this week. And what he's doing is fantastic, so you can check out his work as well. But my point is just simply it's not about uh destroying it's like look do you want to raise the enemy village or take control of it to utilize its its labor forces and resources
Starting point is 01:20:37 it depends on the situation certainly and in this situation you have you have you basically have a village of people who are all growing crops bowinging down to saying, please, please, please, we'll give you our wheat. Just please stop. And instead, it's like you've got people saying, no, no, it's like destroying everything. That's what they would do to us. They would destroy us. I want I want their resources. I want to take all of their money and put it towards Sean Strickland and other based UFC fighters so they can they can go on twitter and say anti-woke things destroying it doesn't serve a purpose well i um if you're
Starting point is 01:21:11 talking about seeing the metaphor you've got the people and then you have the resources and the people are traitors and they say please please please let us join you but they're treacherous then you might want to remove the humans from that situation to take the resources for yourself so there are other times you would actually let them serve you the resources is the human capital and labor then you would put them in slavery or something like that this is just military talk of course that you would enslave the population and make them work for you if you didn't really just take taxes from them yeah it depends on how treacherous they are in military you conquer a city and you use its resources towards your military goals in this instance we're talking about culture war we can
Starting point is 01:21:44 see bud Light destroyed or all of that money they have can go towards anti-woke initiatives. And then we're actually being armed culturally against the wokeness. I have another nuanced point on this that might be diverting it a little bit because I brought up Bill Gates moves here.
Starting point is 01:22:00 And I just remembered Bill Gates bought a whole bunch of stocks for Anheuser-Busch. And therefore, Tim, I totally disagree with you. I am with Ian on this one. Bill Gates buying public stock to try and destroy the company makes sense to help Bill Gates and to help Wokeness. He wants to make sure no one gets behind the company and they can't recover for this reason. He's basically saying scorched earth. If they claim Bud Light, then we are going to lose resources by buying into it.
Starting point is 01:22:33 He's going to get people like you to refuse to support the company that is funding UFC anti-woke personalities. I did some numbers earlier. The revenue of Anheuser-Busch was 15 and a half billion in 2018. 15 and a half. The revenue of its parent company was 52 billion so 15 52 in 2019 anheuser-busch is a skin suit it's not a real company it's owned by a belgian company called anheuser-busch 52 billion in income and revenue in 2019 so unless they put like six seven billion towards this stuff that we that we like i'm not gonna start to think they really care at all i think this is a i don't think they care this is just what publicity is done of
Starting point is 01:23:08 course and it doesn't matter the woke uh leftists have captured the institutions and the argument from the right is to sacrifice the institutions instead of reclaiming them that makes no sense the goal should be to reclaim and control all of the cultural institutions so that we can then indoctrinate young people to american values um some of the institutions need to fail i think some we need agreed that's what i i think too that's kind of why i'm in more of like the let them suffer and like they would do that to us like they they want to destroy us they want to destroy everything and so if it was like a patriotic company and this was happening they'd be like no keep pushing them don't buy anything
Starting point is 01:23:41 from them they made that's what that's why we're like whenever they cancel us they have no forgiveness they have no grace whatsoever and it's like why would we extend that to them don't buy anything from them they made that's what that's why we're like whenever they cancel us they have no forgiveness they have no grace whatsoever and it's like why would we extend that to them don't we're not extending it to them you're like it's like saying quick burn down our own bridge that we've reclaimed because they would have burned it down too why we need the bridge why not if you're gonna we're gonna build culture why are we just gonna destroy all of what they have built if we can't just take it for ourselves and use it ourselves why wouldn't we do that it makes no sense to get rid of it. Like, so imagine this. Like the one ring, you know?
Starting point is 01:24:09 Bud Light is not. Bud Light is a factory. You have woke forces and anti-woke forces. Woke forces have taken over the factory. As of the past few months, the anti-woke forces have reclaimed the servitude of the factory. And now the argument is,
Starting point is 01:24:23 quick, burn the factory down. Why? We have it. It's ours. We get it we get it all because i don't well a reason why the anti-woke mma fighters are getting paid more money ufc is getting funded this means the public will recognize the statements made by these fighters are funded by bud light you have lost this cultural battle except if the factory if you're like now that's our factory but who was in that factory running that factory and who are their financial ties behind the scenes that I don't know. So if I really want to leave that factory up and running, what's the risk? Yeah. I mean, the UFC is one of the most popular sports industries in the entire world. They're not going to have problems. They're
Starting point is 01:24:56 financing one of the biggest kind of sports franchises in the entire world. So what are they investing in? I think that's a question that we should be asking ourselves because they will do anything for a buck. They tried to sell tweens and small children alcohol by advertising with Dylan Mulvaney. Is that something that is excusable? That depends. Is this something that we should be fighting for? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Let the audience decide. If you think that we should be taking over the bridge, press one in the comment section. If you think we should be, of course, punishing the woke bridge that tried to sell alcohol to children, press number two in the comment section. The issue would be like, if you have a government that rules with an iron fist, eventually you will get revolt and collapse. But if you rule through incentives and goals, you will have people enthusiastically supporting you if if the anti-woke forces in the culture culture war send the message to big companies no matter what you do there is no coming back and we will destroy you you know their response is going to be okay well then we'll go woke because they'll at least give us money but i think it's exhausting to do a boycott and it took the bud light that bud light boycott was like a four month thing three month thing to really and it to change get people into the mindset of i'm done
Starting point is 01:26:08 with that crap bud light i'm done with it i'm done with it now to get them back into it doesn't sound good it sounds like you're going in reverse while you're going 80 on the highway and it's going to do more confusion damage than worth it i think it boycotting this company is the right move um it's just a multinational billion dollar alcohol bud light will say this 30 sales are written off completely stay the course and keep putting out uh pride ads right they need like an off ramp they need a place to go you can't just tell the woke you're doing it wrong you have a wrong way to go and then not give them a chance to say hey here's a better way here's the way we the way forward you can't just tell them you know you know that's what they're saying to us by canceling as you dude they spent 100 million dollars trying to save themselves that's like next to nothing though compared to
Starting point is 01:26:49 what they're worth 100 million dollars to save themselves it's the biggest deal in ufc history it's one five hundredth of their revenue that has nothing to do with the ufc getting the biggest deal in history inflation i mean biggest deal in his you know yeah go for it and the response from the anti-woke is there is no recovery you are guaranteeing that the only thing bud light will do is say then how can we how can we get more beer from the left we have nothing nothing to give the right so cut them off and never even try anymore it's like an abusive husband trying to come back please take us back like dude you screwed us like this company's been screwing the the popular this is why the right loses well i know this is why the right has lost for so long anyone because the left
Starting point is 01:27:32 marched through the institutions and they said now we have the new york times now we will use us to crush free speech and the right goes let's just tear it all down i tell you if elon musk buys ab and bev i'm on board sorry were you were you going to say something? No, I was just going to say that I kind of agree with you. I think that there needs to be some example of like what happens. I'm not saying that needs to be the approach every single time a company goes woke. But I think we need a couple examples of like, hey, you will go out of business if this is the case or you will suffer to a point where this particular product is not even something people want to buy in this country anymore.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I think, yeah, we sent them sort of a message, but I don't really think it was. I don't I think that it needed to go. It needs to go further. I do think that, you know, as far as we need to use your resources, we don't really we could just use we could just fund other beer companies or other beer companies. We don't really need Bud Light. Bud Light, if that is the course taken we'll start giving more money to woke initiatives yeah they will fund more pride events they will fund more pride commercials and the right will be like why why are they doing this oh no well it's because you told them screw off but then we will continue to not buy it but they're
Starting point is 01:28:38 not dying because of it and all that will do is give the woke forces money you need bud light to commit 100 of their resources to anti-woke right now right now they've lost 30 they've lost 30 in sales we can tell them hey we'll give you we'll give you that 30 back if you allocate your funding in our direction and they're and they're saying hmm that sounds like it might work let's try let's give ufc 100 million dollars and you've got people still saying, it'll never be good enough. Then they go, ah, screw it. That $100 million we're going to spend on UFC, give it to Dylan Mulvaney. Is that what you want?
Starting point is 01:29:11 Because if these 30% of people never come back to Bud Light, they'll just give more money to Dylan Mulvaney. Congratulations. I mean, then you'll get more pride events. Or the inverse of it, because they could say, oh, you know, Bud Light could get away with this. They could advertise to small children. They could advertise Dylan Mulvaney. But if they just give a little bit of money to the UFC, they're going to be cleared of all wrongdoing. And therefore, why not get away with this even more?
Starting point is 01:29:34 Don't do it again. We'll lose the money. The business guys are right now looking at their bottom line. And they're saying, we lost 30%. How do we get it back? We've got to get away from wokeness. Before Dylan Mulvaney, we were at X amount of sales. After Dylan Mulvaney, we were at X amount of sales. After Dylan Mulvaney,
Starting point is 01:29:47 we're at X minus 30%. To recover the 30%, we need to get away from wokeness and go towards something that's not woke. If they give money to UFC and it works, they're going to say never spend money on that stuff again. If we say no, you can never recover, they're going to say we're at X minus 30, we can't recover that 30%. Stay the course
Starting point is 01:30:04 and at least we'll maintain the pride community. They like no other choice at that point other things if they want to fail as a company then they would then they would be like okay well then well i guess we're done i guess we're i guess we are canceled we quit if the investment caused a huge 30 percent loss why do you think that they would continue that train of investment because they've already lost at 30 percent there's no negative and there's no positive. There's only negative. No, there isn't. They've already lost 30%. And then they stopped doing it.
Starting point is 01:30:29 And so now they're saying, we've got people who are angry at us who are on the left, but the right won't forgive us at all ever. So there's no point in trying to recover that revenue. Let's go back to the pride events and see if we can at least maintain that market. That's like a...
Starting point is 01:30:43 I kind of want more from them. I want more from Bud Light. I want them to do more to show us that they're changing course. Yeah, exactly. Give us some cultural reparations here. Host an Iris Lives Matter protest in Ireland. Let's do something like that. Let's have Sean Strickland with the do-rag on the can.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I want it. I would then go out there and buy it. I think we need just a little bit more from my perspective, but I might be asking too much and I might be a perfectionist. I think what they're doing is too much of a wink, wink, nudge, nudge
Starting point is 01:31:11 to the right. Like, oh, we're on your side, guys. But we're still kind of in the left's camp. They're playing it safe. Maybe if they push it a little further. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I want more Clydesdale ads. It's a Belgian company
Starting point is 01:31:20 that wants the United States to fail, man. It's just part of this international banking thing. I'm listening to people who play chess being like, don't control the center of the board. It's pointless. They wouldn't let us control it, so why should we? And I'm like, what? Yeah, there are some things where you're like, let's get that center out of the game so that we can play on a more equal ground.
Starting point is 01:31:36 You cannot. We can boycott companies to death. Imagine a great general being like, don't take the field because they wouldn't let us take it either way, so we should run the other direction. It's like, okay. Let the woke take all the institutions. Let them take the universities. Let them take the field because they wouldn't let us take it either way, so we should run the other directions. Like, okay. Let the woke take all the institutions. Let them take the universities. Let them take the television networks. And then cross your fingers that ultra-right
Starting point is 01:31:51 conservatives beer can rival the multi-billion dollar beer brand. And cross your fingers that Jeremy's razors and Jeremy's chocolates is going to beat Hershey's. That's absolutely fine. More power to you. I just think if you have the option of occupying a major factory with billions of dollars and utilizing all of its resources to your end you need to push that
Starting point is 01:32:11 in your direction but that's maybe maybe maybe the universities maybe the the media organizations need to fail yeah that's my perspective i i the universities with how much injustice they caused which how much servitude and debt they caused the American, with how much just woke nonsense and poison that they have put into America. Let them fail. That's my perspective. They're not really referable, in my opinion. They need to fail, and maybe we build something else.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Exactly. I agree at this point. I don't know if we're at a point where we can fix it, even. Yeah, everything's coming to a head. Like they said, they're planning an October war. It's no time to joke around right now. The companies that are wrecking the American way of life need to fail. I feel that.
Starting point is 01:32:50 But I think your point about it being not even American owned. That's an important point. I don't think it makes it woke, but I do think it begs the question. Why are they advertising it as they want us to associate it with, you know, American patriotism? I think that is an important part of it. What are we? Why are we mad at bud light they tried to sell alcohol to children and culturally promoted uh the larger ideology that dylan movini represents and so what would make us not mad at bud light nothing
Starting point is 01:33:15 never kleissel ads jeez if they started like nothing i i had my things what i wanted i've got personal like investments they could start we're going with into like graphing tech and like high tech like revolutionary energy technology i want that do right can i really do not i want more i want to represent i want them to say we made a mistake we're gonna fix it this is us standing uh by something new in the culture war we're gonna be we're gonna have just as big of an impact like we did with dylan mulvaney we're gonna have it bigger on the other side. They gave Dylan Mulvaney $180,000. They gave UFC $100 million.
Starting point is 01:33:51 If you can't accept that as a victory, you will lose. Because they lost money for six months. No, they want you to think it's a victory. It cost them nothing, relatively nothing. One five hundredth of their 2019 revenue. Revenue is not profit. What's their profit? Operating income. nothing one five hundredth of their 19 2019 revenue it revenue is not profit what's their profit uh operating income net income geez their total assets are 236 billion what's their profit all right doesn't say we're right revenue is not profit their margins could be three percent for
Starting point is 01:34:15 all we know operating income 16 and a half billion right and so what's their profit yeah the margin uh the net the net income nine billion no we need their profit their margins because for the for a beer company shipping liquids i imagine their margins are going to be relatively small but they're still probably making billions but it's a question of like how much money are they generating and that's and it's not even the question the question is this what is victory seriously what what is your condition of victory if if uh woke institutions say okay you win we're gonna fund 10 000 times more money towards you and you go no it's like okay well then you you have no win condition what's your win condition but if it's like 10 000 times more for you but
Starting point is 01:34:56 it's one five hundredth less for them you got to do that that opportunity cost and if it costs them next to nothing to give you a five thousand percent boost you got to see is it really costing them anything at all to make me think I'm gaining something? Well, I mean, honest question, guys,
Starting point is 01:35:09 what's your win condition? They fail. They lose. They, the, the establishment just stops operating in a, in a hurtful way. The universities get shut down.
Starting point is 01:35:17 The corporate media gets shut down and people learn to light. I just think, what's the win condition, but like, I think they would have to be so obviously patriotic in order for them to have any hope of us accepting them again. And I don't think this is enough. I think this is just some guy being paid to say something that isn't even true,
Starting point is 01:35:37 like the fact that it's such a patriotic beer. And then in addition to that, I think that if they're not going to meet that expectation, which they won't, then yeah, I think we let them fail. We let them fail on this won't fail i got a win condition but but light won't go out of business anheuser-busch loses so much money that they shutter it and seth weathers buys it okay well that's not going to happen well geez yes it is what that's my win condition is their sales drop has stalled at 30 and it's stabilized well let's shut it down
Starting point is 01:36:03 sell it to sell to an american company it back. Make it American again. If the people who already stopped buying it stopped buying it, how do you make their sales drop further? Get more people to stop buying it. How? I want it to be an American company again. That's my win condition. Anheuser-Busch is an American company. Okay, now my question is, how do you get Bud Light to be sold to an American company? You gotta
Starting point is 01:36:19 boycott it, basically. Okay, that's already happened. What's next? Keep the boycott going. Right, so they've so they've been now for for uh uh 75 of the year at uh around averaging around 28 to 30 sales drop off what's the next play uh you would have to just continue doing i mean it would be exhausting to go after one multinational company and try and bankrupt it are you saying that like after a year of minus 30 sales a stable a stabilized sales base they will eventually just say you know we're going to sell
Starting point is 01:36:50 the product well we don't really owe them anything so like if we just don't want to buy it because they don't represent what we believe in then we just will continue to not buy it you know so even if it doesn't put them out of business per se so then the issue is when condition is irrelevant you just don't want to buy bud light i was was really pissed off when they gave Dylan Mulvaney a commercial to sell beer to his audience, which was like 17-year-olds and stuff. Or young people. I think it was 15 to 16-year-olds. And that's like a beer company selling to that guy, having him sell to his audience. That was really gross to me.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Like a total mismanagement. Like, are they trying to poison our populace? I know that people are sending fentanyl up across the southern border. Like, what are they doing with Dylan Mulvaney and alcohol? Alcohol in general is very net negative. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game
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Starting point is 01:38:47 Klaus Schwab or Rothschild, Pope connected revisionist of capitalist individuals. If they're trying to do that, they deserve to fail. In my opinion, we boycott UFC next. Some people have said that then that's the move we make right now. And we give Dana White the middle finger because if Dana White is going to
Starting point is 01:39:03 accept Bud Light and you guys won't, then we must now condemn UFC, Sean Strickland give Dana White the middle finger. Because if Dana White is going to accept Bud Light and you guys won't, then we must now condemn UFC, Sean Strickland, Dana White, and any single one of them who advocated for defending Bud Light. I thought it was a total sellout on Dana's part. I agree. And Sean Strickland. I want you guys, like, we gotta call them all out.
Starting point is 01:39:20 If Sean Strickland comes out and says Bud Light's being rehabilitated by me and you guys are saying no it's not then we call him out too boycott him he just fought the other night did he fight recently? Sean Strickland?
Starting point is 01:39:32 he fought a couple weeks ago he became champion of the UFC he's going to be fighting soon then don't watch it you cannot simultaneously condemn Bud Light but then defend the people who are defending Bud Light. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I actually think this is totally fake, this whole UFC thing. This, oh, we're going to support Bud Light now. I don't like it. I think that it's, and I don't like the way, and I never picked up on this before you pointed it out, but the way he wants us to associate supporting Bud Light with patriotism, that's just slimy, especially when it's not owned by an American company. So I actually agree.
Starting point is 01:40:09 I think you're right. OK, I would do the same. The next move is we boycott it for everybody who thinks Bud Light should not be rehabilitated. We have to call out Dana White. We have to boycott UFC. We have to call out any UFC personality supported this and refused to watch or purchase or take it to their fights and demand that Shawn and any other UFC fighter
Starting point is 01:40:29 refuse to participate in UFC until they cancel their sponsorship with Bud Light. I do wonder though, and I don't know, maybe it's true, but did UFC specifically make a deal with them or was it just the fighters? The UFC. And then Strickland came out saying that he was going to save bud light because he
Starting point is 01:40:45 said a whole bunch of anti-woke stuff on twitter and said brought to you by bud light if that is unacceptable then we need to call out anybody who's standing alongside i actually think that's a fair thing i think that to stay consistent i think that is fair and i think that i would support that well right on so how many are you guys in favor of boycotting ufc i don't watch ufc anyway i do like watching guys fight because it's a cool sport you won't do it but the uh the sellout dana white i'm thinking about it i like watching the ufc that's right i'm just being honest it's easy for you to boycott bud light you don't drink alcohol is it easy for you to boycott the ufc i mean dana dana sold his id he said patriotism patriotism by belgian company
Starting point is 01:41:23 and it's like yo dana that ain't american so maybe he just wanted the money 100 million bucks he's going to keep the company solvent for another three years or whatever the hell it is he wants to sign another deal with him later that's why he's talking so highly of him right now it's easy to boycott a product you never bought in the first place that's fair i don't really watch ufc so it's hard for me to say that like luke's a big ufc fan you know but are you are you going to support ufc after they just that's a good question i thought about that i. I heard Dana White's arguments, and I heard this endorsement, and it kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And I was like, it kind of does seem like profit is a little bit more important than the kind of culture war here. That was my initial reaction from it. Am I wrong? I could be. I'm not always right. I'm not always perfect myself. I at first said Sean Strickland was wrong.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Dana White was selling out. And then I actually listened to what Sean Strickland was wrong. Dana White was selling out. And then I actually listened to what Sean Strickland was saying. And I realized he was right. That this is a major win. But if that is unacceptable and I'm wrong, then we cannot just accept that UFC took $100 million from a corporation that has no intention of actually standing up for our values. And we cannot allow that.
Starting point is 01:42:24 That would mean Dana White's a traitor, a sellout. And that means all of these UFC fighters are willing to fight in the ring with the Bud Light logo, don't care about our values either. You know, I'm not too worried about international business.
Starting point is 01:42:36 It's not my fight. I don't like that they sold beer to a child market through Dylan Mulvaney. That was like over the line, but I'm not, I don't necessarily want to go after every multinational corporation just because they're multinational corporations and they get into ESG. Like you said, there's just always so much mind focus that one can do. And to do a
Starting point is 01:42:59 constant boycott of every company that touches every company I don't like, I don't like doing that kind of thing. Well, I don't see the logic in saying bud light can never recover but we're absolutely on board with companies colluding with these with these these unrecoverable companies like when when when ufc first announced this major deal with bud light the immediate reaction was boycott ufc and that's what everybody was saying. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?
Starting point is 01:43:29 Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your friends. Head over to TimCast.com. Click join us. We're going to have a members-only show coming up for you in about 23 or so minutes. It's going to be fun because we got some interesting subjects to talk about. We're going to rag on Bill Maher
Starting point is 01:43:41 because Bill Maher triggered a woke activist talking about transgender issues. And I think we should break this down uh so uh before all that we'll read what y'all have to say clint torres wins first place he got the first super chat saying howdy people howdy howdy with a little waving emoji and a cowboy man all right andrew and andrew d 843 says congress said they didn't have 9.7 billion over 10 years to fund the major Richard Starr Act but can send 75 billion plus to Ukraine this year over 50,000 troops who got
Starting point is 01:44:12 injured in combat and medically retired don't get retirement to this day and that's why we all hate Congress because that is corruption right there money for what is it they got money for the war but they can't feed the poor who said that what was that quote that's a good line it was something like
Starting point is 01:44:26 was it Tupac or Luce yelling it from I can't hear him Luke knew Luce yelling it from the bathroom but I can't hear him he yelled Tupac was it
Starting point is 01:44:35 what did he say Joe Mitchell Joe Mitchell that was his first name that came up I couldn't he was yelling from the bathroom oh yeah it was Tupac
Starting point is 01:44:40 thanks Luke alright here we go Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says you guys not know that tupac quote tupac quote tim i i knew the quote i used to know was him tim it's indisputable that the line is being as being forwarded culturally and politically there's been too many recent positives to not see the line moving i completely agree mike cernovich had a great tweet he said imagine going to 2020 and claiming that three of the presidents of harvard penn and mit were facing removal for anti-semitism and that alex jones had been brought back to to
Starting point is 01:45:10 x or to twitter which is now called x you'd be 51 50 great point brilliant point too because it's like he's absolutely correct on that jacob parody says just saw the shift over the weekend highly recommend if you don't know already sean astin gives one of the best lines so far quote i'm well all right well you gotta understand twitter was a disgusting sinking ship and elon has been working tirelessly to try and fix it i will say unfortunately however and we'll get into this in the members only grok is woke oh yeah he's super woke you've been you've been testing it dude grok is so woke you asked yeah you will so we'll say this for the members only, but yeah, I've been testing out Grok, which is
Starting point is 01:46:06 Twitter's large language model. We call them AI, I guess. And if you ask it a question, a fact-based question, it won't give you the answer. It'll give you a non-answer related to some woke issue. Oh, no, that's not good for the future of AI. We know it's all going to be woke. But I'll show you exactly what I mean. If you look at my Twitter, you can see it, but I'll save it for the members only.
Starting point is 01:46:24 People are saying I just did a Vivek. A Vivek? Your mic wasn't hot. It sounded like he was making espresso or something. I think it was a sink that was on. Yeah, that's what it sounded like. He could have peed and then washed his hands. Both could be true.
Starting point is 01:46:37 I listen to it and I'm like, okay, I got to be honest. If that was urinating, Vivek's got a seriously damaged and enlarged prostate and he's having trouble urinating. Like that doesn't sound like a man going to the bathroom, especially a 38 year old. It sounded like he was making a coffee or a espresso or something. I don't know. Whatever. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:56 I don't know. Whatever. All right. All right. Let's read some more super chats. What do we have here? Waffle Sensei says, funny how they told us to build their own platforms to share our opinions now they team up with the government to try and
Starting point is 01:47:10 destroy those platforms it sounds like they did that with parlor i i'm willing to bet government was in the government was involved in getting parlor taken down buster ruckus says are we not going to talk about the black woman who tried to burn down MLK's house? We all know who the media would blame if she hadn't been caught. That's a crazy story. I don't know enough about it though, but yeah, there was like some black woman was caught trying to burn down Martin
Starting point is 01:47:32 Luther King's junior's house. You're Microsoft. Yeah. I was saying you made a wife's first assist. I mean, they'll call her that, I guess. Was it Larry Elder?
Starting point is 01:47:43 Kyle Beckham says there is a mobilization happening. I have it from Navy buddies that deployment will occur in August to the Pacific. Interesting. I'm hearing a lot about that too, but it's hard to discern if it's true or not.
Starting point is 01:47:55 That Panama Canal. That a lot of troops are being called up. Interesting. Panama. Over Venezuela? No, no, no. I mean, Venezuela also,
Starting point is 01:48:03 there's another war there brewing as well. The Panama Canal is super valuable, though it's like the Suez. There's just so important to have control of that thing. All right, where are we at? Paul Tascalos says,
Starting point is 01:48:13 SNL irony. Fired Shane Gillis in 2019 for an offensive joke. Shane is currently one of the most successful stand-up comedians and sketch actors. SNL now making tone-deaf, unfunny, offensive garbage.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Get woke, go broke. I had to correct you there, Paul. You made a mistake. It's get woke, go broke, as it's been for 10 years. But yeah, SNL. Did you guys watch that opening? I couldn't even finish it. No, I couldn't get through it.
Starting point is 01:48:37 No, I couldn't finish it, yeah. But I did hear a little bit of it. It wasn't funny in any way. And the weirdest thing is they attacked Elise Stefanik and they added things that were not part of the hearing. It was clear. They were not engaged in making jokes.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Elise Stefanik said, is it a violation of your rules to call for the genocide of Jews in the SNL version? She goes, and it's like, what? And then the woman, then the president of one of the organizations goes like, we try to limit hate speech against all students, including Jewish students, Muslim students.
Starting point is 01:49:10 And then Elisa Fonik goes, nope, nope, nope, not that one, not that one. And I'm like, I don't understand what the joke is, because Elisa Fonik in no way insulted Muslims. Yeah. They're just trying to. This is what they did when Tina Fey made fun of Sarah Palin and said, I can see Russia from my house. And then liberals all believed Sarah Palin actually said that. Oh, yeah. Sarah Palin actually said when it comes to negotiating with Russia, we actually do negotiate every year because of the Bering Strait, because we have ships moving through territorial waters. And interestingly, in the westernmost point of Alaska, you can actually see with the naked eye, Russia. So as these ships are coming through, like a very articulate and composed statement about international
Starting point is 01:49:49 relations, in order to discredit her as a politician, Tina Fey says something dumb, and then people think Sarah Palin actually said something dumb. Figure. Figure out where the joke is. The joke's on Lorne Michaels. That show sucks, Lorne. It's time to pack it in man or sell it
Starting point is 01:50:06 or something yeah that was a better cast is he still around yeah he kicking it man all right let's grab some more voice of the people says luke is right my account was nuked on youtube for asking questions about the jab i'm picking up slowly on Rumble with listening to the Senate and committee hearings. It's wild what they say themselves. Yeah. Yeah, they try to destroy independent media and they were ruthless with it. The smaller creators, I think, had a bigger impact than some of the bigger guys that got hit. Because that really changed the people who would be bigger players now that are not.
Starting point is 01:50:43 And that was the big thing with um uh twitter censorship going back several years they'd make arguments like we we didn't ban conservatives and that was a mistake and they were restored ah but what was happening was they they rolled out an algorithm on twitter back in the day where it was banning anybody who said hashtag learn to code unless you were on a white list that's why when i tweeted hashtag learn to code nothing bad happened but that's why when the editor-in-chief of i think it was the daily caller tweeted it he got banned and they went whoops that was an accident sorry about that that wasn't supposed to happen the only issue all the small accounts who tweeted it got banned and they had no advocates and no pr and were unable to actually get their accounts restored. So they were getting rid of all of the,
Starting point is 01:51:30 of the grassroots sentiment opposed to the media industry. That's how they did it. It's like the movie Scream, like the groups all walk in and then one guy gets yanked from behind and they just keep walking. They don't know what's happening, that kind of thing. Yeah, it is sneaky. Purple says, what is SCNR?
Starting point is 01:51:43 Switching it up with no explanation. You know, this is one of the bigger challenges with any show uh good sir purple if you watched every episode of timcast irl you'd know exactly what uh scnr was but the issue is i think on average a person will watch between 2.5 to 6 i say that it's wide range because different platforms have different metrics on audio versions. It's like two and a half podcasts per person. And then a little bit more, maybe like three. And then on YouTube, it's like seven or eight. So if you skip an episode, you're going to be like, what's this?
Starting point is 01:52:17 Well, you know, to be continued, you got to go back and watch all the old episodes, which, you know, is not reasonable. Put them all at the same time. It's a wild sound. You know what is funny? There was this woman who wrote this fake academic study where she, it was called the Alternative Influencer Network or something, where she claimed that a bunch of like
Starting point is 01:52:35 anti-establishment YouTubers were all secretly connected. And she connected Chris Ragon, who does like video game content, to Richard Spencer. These two guys who have never met before. And so she got roasted for it. And then I guess because of that, does like video game content to richard spencer these two guys who have never met before and so she got roasted for it and then i guess because of that she's she did a research paper on me specifically where she said she watched all of my content and i gotta be honest i was flattered
Starting point is 01:52:57 and i was like yo that's like six at the time it was four hours of content, Monday through Friday and two hours, Saturday and Sunday, because this was back in was this 2020 when I was doing weekends with zero days off weekends. I would record until like three and then Monday through Friday was three and then also IRL. And she actually wrote a paper saying she had watched every single one of my videos and back catalog. And then she was like he's liberal i'm like wow think about how like mentally unwell you'd have to be to watch every tim pool video ever there's a lot of people out there being like uh i think she wants to date you i like you oh man you know good for her though it's like wow that means she had to have watched in order like i was tracking from when she finished the the articles like a couple years after i was like that means she had
Starting point is 01:53:49 to have watched three days of my contact content every day monday to sunday non-stop maybe she had a two-point speed i gotta be honest it all but no but two times speed sure but she still had to watch three days worth of content it It could also be she's lying. How about that? That's Occam's razor at work. Yeah. No. Slicing the truth in half.
Starting point is 01:54:11 These shady individuals connected to Indel, Ingen Cesar, and George Soros don't lie. Gustavo Gutierrez says, I'm Venezuelan and want to clarify a factor regarding Esequibo, Zona de Reclamacion. The land was Venezuelan from the get-go i do not agree with how maduro is going about the reclaim of the land please read the history very interesting it's true there's a big fight brewing there and even even google's long had a dotted line for the
Starting point is 01:54:35 border it's been disputed yeah let's do it but it is kind of funny that they're like hey there's oil here the maduro's like we should reclaim our land oh there's value there now and you know it's a good reason for us to go in let's grab some more uh legama says i disagree about bud light corporations must understand going woke will be their end they must perceive it as an unacceptable risk that nobody dares to bring up in boardrooms for fear of being fired this is how we crush the woke without boogaloo so there's another way of uh of at it. We want companies of their own volition to invest in anti-woke initiatives. We don't want neutrality. We want to win. So the message should be get anti-woke, make lots of you lose it's it's it's still a win you know because companies will just be like i don't want to get political but we win faster if companies were like a sponsor more anti-woke channels it's tough with these big public companies because that vanguard and black
Starting point is 01:55:35 rock and state street are so heavily across the board but like private companies can twist and turn a lot easier like so sometimes it's better for one big woke company to fail and a new one to start up than it is to try and change that big behemoth of an organization there uh andrew says hey tim and cast the obamas produced a film called leave the world behind which showcases the breakdown of society during a cyber attack thoughts there's also a scene going viral where a woman says don't trust white people i don't know that's all about but you know it's in the movie whatever that means white people context is important because i doubt it but for all we know she's not a good guy in the film you know she's saying things like i'm racist blah blah
Starting point is 01:56:16 and then they're like showing her saying that but i'm assuming the assumption is she's just you know like being woke yeah yeah and it's a woke film. I watched the trailer. It definitely seems like a very woke film that the Obama's produced. We've said the word woke so many times in the last three minutes. It's so funny. Project Additon says, just make Bud Light the 51st state. Yes. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:56:36 Problem solved. Oh, corporations are states now as well as people. That's an Ian argument. What do we got here michael jackson the michael jackson says do y'all really think dana doesn't have a cancel clause then dana is hardcore against bud light it's a possible lose lose for bud light so then if the point is bud light can never recover. We have to force UFC into canceling their Bud Light contract. The biggest victory over Bud Light would be if you want it to be a nuclear bomb in terms of Bud Light sales, having UFC break their contract and kick them out would be the most devastating defeat Bud Light could face. That would be awesome. And you should have Dana White on the culture war.
Starting point is 01:57:24 That would be awesome to defend why he did that. That would be awesome and you should have Dana White on the culture war. That would be awesome to defend why he did that. That would be so cool. Because he might have a good reason for taking the $100 million. There might be more to it. I mean, obviously. Yeah, he's got $100 million reasons. But if that's not enough and that you have to boycott UFC,
Starting point is 01:57:42 the only problem is I don't think you can boycott UFC. I don't think the fans will boycott UFC. The only problem is. I don't think you can boycott UFC. I don't think the fans will boycott UFC. And UFC did not do anything. As egregious as Bud Light. They've simply aligned themselves with Bud Light. So you can accept Sean Strickland. Going anti-woke. And taking Bud Light money.
Starting point is 01:57:58 And taking. Claiming. Sticking his flag in the Bud Light factory. Or you can say. No we reject this. You're collaborating with the enemy. And tell Sean Strickland, no, we don't accept what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Dana White, you've sold out. UFC, be gone. Yeah, I mean, I think that it's mostly in theory, the argument. I don't think people would actually boycott UFC. I think it's what would need to happen to make the point. But I don't think any,
Starting point is 01:58:20 I don't think it would be on enough of a grand scale. People just like, especially conservatives, they like UFC too much. I think Luke's silently breathing a sigh of relief as you said that. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, I gotta say the whole Bud Light convo was fantastic. Do you get hold the line or forward it? Hold it with boycott or forward it by using honey for bees? Eric Mack says, Tim is right.
Starting point is 01:58:44 The more money for the anti-woke the better frog boogers says bud light never apologized hold them accountable supporting them again gives them an opportunity to just sweep what they've done under the rug so uh don't don't ever buy hugo boss or volkswagen either for real because they serve the nazis yeah absolutely ibm but i mean seriously yeah ibm no no question don Don't buy any IBM computer parts or IBM machines. Go Mac. You know? Oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:59:11 No, Mac used the Foxconn labs where all those people were marching off the roofs in suicide. Okay. You ever see ancient technologies on YouTube? No. Where the guy like builds cool stuff from like mud? Pools and stuff. Oh. This life awaits you and
Starting point is 01:59:26 i'm i don't mean that i'm only half kidding it looks so awesome and fun to like you ever see those guys they build a swimming pool are those two indian guys yeah yeah i've seen those come on that stuff's awesome it turns out that we had machines behind the scenes it's not real yeah that is disappointing you know then they did that with little hand trowels and stuff like that. I want to believe it, okay? I was told that they have fake. It's fake, but it could be wrong. There could be people that do it for real.
Starting point is 01:59:53 There could be. That's a good point. It could be both things. That's a good point. Waffle Sensei says, The action of going anti-woke is more important than the apology I want to win. Sam T says, People who are calling for bud to go down
Starting point is 02:00:05 clearly never had a dog you encourage good behavior and discourage bad behavior simple anyone with intel stats over three will figure that one out yeah but they're using math there's no dog to entice in this situation it's all mathematics and machine algorithm work so like you've got to just play the numbers on this one logic plague says wokeness has infected something we all love at some point i'd rather see those things reclaimed than destroyed yeah yeah like we're we're retaking the ground we've lost the ground why aren't we retaking it we should be happy we're retaking it that's that's the way i see it mr big says tim's argument is baseless twitter x isn't real nothing
Starting point is 02:00:38 has changed at bud light except tim's attitude towards it. Bud Light execs are laughing. No, my attitude was Sean Strickland is wrong and Dana White sold out. And then Sean Strickland made a bunch of statements on Twitter under the banner of Bud Light and Bud Light said nothing. And I was like, whoa, Bud Light wouldn't even dare denounce the things said by Sean Strickland. And he claimed it was sponsored by them. And I'm like, that's it. They are cowering right now. But if you'd rather see them destroyed, then by all means, you have to stop collaborators. You have to boycott the collaborators.
Starting point is 02:01:13 I don't see I don't see anything other than hypocrisy for the people who are like, well, I'll keep watching UFC, but I don't like Bud Light. Why? No, I agree with that. I just think in theory, like it makes sense. But like on a mass scale, it wouldn't be effective enough. And also, there's always going to be a conservative that will sign on to some sort of deal like that because it is so much money like even if you were to boycott ufc it's going to be somebody else
Starting point is 02:01:34 who's going to endorse them and and you know whether or not that's going to be effective enough to get people to buy the beer again i don't know but i don't i there's just always going to be somebody who's willing to do anything for money. Nobody's going to boycott UFC. Yeah, I don't think so either. So if the statement is, we're still mad at you, Bud Light, but we won't boycott UFC. Now they're laughing. No, I agree. And Bud Light's saying, we got you by the balls.
Starting point is 02:01:58 We know you're not willing to boycott UFC. So we can give them money. We can win. And y'all won't do anything about it. So you can take the PR victory and say we've won and Bud Light has caved to give us their money or you can say you're right.
Starting point is 02:02:14 We can't stand up for our convictions. We will not condemn UFC. We will not condemn these fighters and that's it. Bud Light wins. I think they only care if they make money. So we're going to see if people buy it. Sales have not recovered. No, they're not.
Starting point is 02:02:27 If they buy it, if they don't, I think that's going to be the big tell here. As of the latest report, which is into December, I believe, their sales are still down year over year by 30%, which means 30. So it's not dropping every month by 30% more. It means that December 2023 sales compared to December 2022 sales,
Starting point is 02:02:47 they've seen a decline of 30%. That means they've stabilized. 30% boycotted Bud Light over Dylan Mulvaney, and their sales have stabilized at this number and not changed. In fact, it's fluctuated a little bit up and down. Well, from 22 to 23, they're down 30%. Are they in a downward trajectory? No. Are they are not they're stable bud light sales are stable at 70 of their previous number so every time they say sales this month are down 30 they don't mean month to month that indicates that the people that were triggered by the dylan mulvaney event have already done the they boycotted and the people everyone else just wasn't necessarily triggered by it right and so what's going to happen is by april uh when was the boycott may is what started by may of next year
Starting point is 02:03:29 bud light's going to show uh that their sales have recovered and they're going to say sales have gone from so it's what's going to start happening is once they get to the beginning of may they're going to say sales are now down 20 sales are now down 15 sales are now down seven sales are now down nine and the now down seven sales are now down nine and the media is going to report en masse bud light sees massive recovery and what may end up happening at that time is that right before that happens bud light will do something sort of woke and then when the sales start recovering because they're not really recovering it's just that month a year over year sales will stay are stable That means the percentages will look will go to zero.
Starting point is 02:04:07 They'll claim we are sales recovered from 30 percent losses by doing this campaign and they can make that campaign whatever they want to be. And that'll be the PR narrative. So either you guys defeat Bud Light 100 percent and they lose completely before may of next year or you force ufc fighters to say a whole bunch of shockingly anti-woke things and you force bud light to answer for it yeah that's way more fun dana what he would would he fire the fighters if they started saying talking about bud light nasty the sponsors are like well sean strickland already did he said he said my speech brought to you by bud light and then said things i can't say on YouTube. Oh, awesome. And Bud Light did nothing about it. I mean, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:04:47 You've got celebrities that fart and then issue apologies. You know what I mean? And here you've got a UFC fighter, a champion, saying this stuff and Bud Light does nothing about it. But regardless, ignore my opinion. Understand this. Once we get year over year into May, they're going to compare May's sales of, let's just say 100 units. Let's just use generic units.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Bud Light sales were at 100. Boycott hits, they go to 70. Every month after that, they're selling 70 units. So the metric they're reporting in the press is minus 30%, minus 30%, minus 30%. Once they get to next may they're going to say this may we sold 70 units and last may we sold 70 units our sales are at zero percent zero percent growth and now they're going to say we've recovered we're back baby 70 is the new normal exactly yeah but they shut down 30 of their production capacity or something if some of
Starting point is 02:05:41 the sales come back for any reason they're going to say we're now up. Their stock will start to recover. Their sales will start to recover. So the issue is going to be what move can you make right now to prevent that narrative from happening? Because now's your chance. You've got five months. If it went, okay, so it's down 30%. That would mean if you can knock it down another 15%, I think that would indicate a collapse of the company. If you could knock it down another 15 i think that would indicate a collapse of the company if you could knock it down to like 55 there needs to be another sales drop off before uh it may
Starting point is 02:06:14 yeah it'd have to impact people that already didn't it didn't impact already you have to have new people that are saying okay now i'm politically aware and i'm willing to stop drinking bud light altogether the narrative can be sean strickland said a bunch of transphobic things and their sales recovered. Pick your narrative. It's up to you. If you haven't already, my friends, would you kindly smash that like button,
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